Gale

[main plume]

i'll see

[main plume]

didn't work out, keeps cancelling on wesley moons

[tender hare]

@umbral herald Failed to update Gale - Download request failed with status: 404 Not Found``

[umbral herald]

one sec

[tender hare]

I think the new gale update broke my modpack

On the website its setup as Bepinex > config > everything is here but for some reason when I download it through gale its Bepinex > config > Bepinex > config

there is a bepinex folder with the configs already in the bepinex folder

[tender hare]

@umbral herald

I just tested

I pretty sure all modpacks after you released your update are now broken when using the newest version of gale

[main aspen]

Yep.

I shouldn’t be seeing so many duplicates of config files

[tender hare]

@umbral herald Pls fix

[main aspen]

This issue occurred before, but that was months ago. You managed to fix it, but it's back now.

[tender hare]

I was going insane and thought I broke my modpack, glad to see that it wasn't just me.

[main aspen]

Is the issue you're experiencing the same as me? All I've noticed is that I find duplicate config files, which messes with things in-game.

Any other issues I sould know of?

[tender hare]

Yes

The bepinex folder that has all the configs and information that modpack creators upload is getting put into the configs folder so when you launch the game it unloads it

[main aspen]

oh!

[tender hare]

@main aspen

It could be thunderstore

Could you test with the thunderstore mod manager

[main aspen]

Could you elaborate?

[tender hare]

Some people are saying that reverting to 1.2.0 of gale is not fixing it

[main aspen]

oh

[tender hare]

And it’s only modpack that have been uploaded after gale was so I think thunderstore is broken

Could you try using another mod manager

[main aspen]

Yea. Mind if I use R2Modman?

[tender hare]

Yeah that ok

[tender hare]

What happened

[main aspen]

Doesn't seem to be the case. I don't see duplicates of my config files. I'm pretty sure the issue is because of Gale, not Thunderstore.

[tender hare]

Can you try reverting to 1.2.0 of gale

[main aspen]

How do I do that?

[tender hare]

Delete it and download from versions of gale

[main aspen]

oh

I'll do that in a sec. I gotta shower.

[tender hare]

I reuploaded my modpack and it seemed to have been fixed

[umbral herald]

I swear I tested it

But yeah if it's actually broken you'll have to clear your cache

oh wait I found the bug in the code

should only be broken for mods which put the config files in BepInEx/config

[umbral herald]

Well, update is coming out in about 15 minutes. Sorry for not catching this, but I'm gonna put some blame on r2modman/thunderstore here. These packaging rules are so overly complicated and undocumented

[heady prism]

[damglador@Parasite:~]$ gale
17:18:49 [INFO] gale v1.2.0 running on linux
17:18:49 [INFO] loading settings from /home/damglador/.config/com.kesomannen.gale/prefs.json
17:18:49 [INFO] directory 'localstorage' does not match any game, skipping
17:18:49 [WARN] profile directory at /home/damglador/.local/share/com.kesomannen.gale/lethal-company/profiles/Default/profile.json does not contain a manifest, skipping
17:18:49 [INFO] directory 'databases' does not match any game, skipping
17:18:49 [INFO] directory 'cache' does not match any game, skipping
17:18:49 [INFO] directory 'mediakeys' does not match any game, skipping
17:18:49 [INFO] directory 'storage' does not match any game, skipping
17:18:49 [INFO] switching thunderstore registry to game lethal-company
17:18:49 [INFO] setup done in 10.609132ms
17:18:49 [INFO] no cache file found at /home/damglador/.local/share/com.kesomannen.gale/lethal-company/thunderstore_cache.json
17:18:49 [INFO] fetching packages for lethal-company, write_directly: true
Could not parse file "/home/damglador/.local/share/applications/waydroid.com.android.contacts.desktop": Key file does not have group ?Desktop Entry?
Error in file "/home/damglador/.local/share/applications/wine-2.desktop": "windows/exe" is an invalid MIME type ("windows" is an unregistered media type)
Could not parse file "/home/damglador/.local/share/applications/waydroid.com.termux.boot.desktop": Key file does not have group ?Desktop Entry?
Could not parse file "/home/damglador/.local/share/applications/waydroid.com.android.camera2.desktop": Key file does not have group ?Desktop Entry?
Could not parse file "/home/damglador/.local/share/applications/waydroid.com.termux.api.desktop": Key file does not have group ?Desktop Entry?
thread 'main' panicked at src/profile/mod.rs:476:23:
index out of bounds: the len is 0 but the index is 0
note: run with `RUST_BACKTRACE=1` environment variable to display a backtrace
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Gale broke again:(

[cerulean stream]

why did gale take like 3 attempts to open 🤨

[fervent frost]

I think the ascending & descending options are the wrong way around?

https://i.gyazo.com/694281f2d4f5b77b40be7d96af2b1328.png

desc is usually Z-A not A-Z

[cerulean stream]

yeah seems so

[umbral herald]

yeah

[nimble bronze]

wacky

was working fine a bit ago

[nimble bronze]

changing the api key didnt fix it

removing the changelog fixed it?

[cerulean stream]

How does the mod cache exactly work? When I click on Clear mod cache it warns me about the doubling disk size. I assumed that the mods wouldn't be stored in the profiles but rather in a cache, but this doesn't seem to be the case

[umbral herald]

Gale installs mods using hard links. This means instead of copying the files, it links them to the files in the cache, using the same physical disk space. When you clear the cache that link is severed, making the version stored in the profile the "source of truth". When you then download the mod again, gale places brand new files in the cache, causing you to have duplicated instances of the mod on your disk.

It's not a huge issue - r2modman already copies mods for every profile - but I thought significant enough to add a warning. You shouldn't be doing it without good reason

[cerulean stream]

In that case, is Windows reporting the wrong filesize for gale appdata folder? On my end the cache is only 8 gigs while the profiles are 17. When I check the size of the entire folder its about 25

[hardy rover]

You realize 17 + 8 is 25 right? Lol

[cerulean stream]

Yes but as far as I understand it, the 8 shouldnt be added to the 17

[hardy rover]

Yes it should. If you're checking the size of the location as a whole it will be, Windows only seperates the profile and cache directories if you check those individually otherwise it maths the entire size of all subdirectories

[cerulean stream]

Where are the disk space savings then?

[hardy rover]

What are you talking about?

[cerulean stream]

this

[hardy rover]

I mean if you've cleared cache then yeah your size is gonna increase, you also sound like you have a lot of profiles to be using up 17gb of space

[cerulean stream]

I haven't cleared my cache

[hardy rover]

Idk, you probably just have a lot of profiles then

Cus 17gb sounds pretty normal if you've made a few larger profiles

[umbral herald]

I think explorer is reporting the duplicated size, yes

[cerulean stream]

Okay that makes sense then, thank you 👍

[hardy rover]

Ah maybe

[echo comet]

Might also have a bunch of extra if you're not clearing the Unused cache?

[cerulean stream]

I did clear that

[hallow reef]

If you delete all Gale profiles (deleting all mods), then clear cache, then download mods again, does this restore the hardlinking?

[echo comet]

The hardlinks are between the files in a profile and the cache, so deleting the profile would indeed have it link to the cache when redownloaded, if that makes sense?

[barren junco]

I wasn't aware of this. I'll definitely try it

[ocean marsh]

https://thunderstore.io/c/voices-of-the-void/

it's not on gale but it is on thunderstore

[umbral herald]

It is in gale?

maybe you're on an old version?

[ocean marsh]

My mistake.

[tender hare]

@umbral herald what data is being sent out in the new version

[umbral herald]

Just a single telementry event when you launch the app. You can read the privacy policy for more detail

[tepid valve]

currently the setting for telemetry is misspelt ("telementary")

[barren junco]

Borders of the app are a little difficult to grab, you know, the ones to resize the window

[main aspen]

@umbral herald I encountered an issue: I can't add an icon to my modpack. It won't open up file explorer.

[tender hare]

@umbral herald

one of my friends is getting this

[barren junco]

Maybe the mod have been deleted

[low pivot]

Try using a vpn

Warp is free

[nimble bronze]

suddenly unable to upload modpack

the log isnt very useful

[nimble bronze]

if anyone can help with this it'd be greatly appreciated

[barren junco]

Might be something with Thunderstore then

[barren junco]

Your folder structure inside your zip is incorrect

[nimble bronze]

i changed nothing about the structure, all managed by gale

a generic warning that says "something is wrong in this haystack field, find the needle" is not exactly helpful

[barren junco]

Yeah might be something wrong with gale then I assume

[barren junco]

Agreed

[bleak dagger]

programmers doing user experience? we could never

[barren junco]

Meanwhile me

Where all my programs were meant to be user friendly

[umbral herald]

thunderstore issue

[umbral herald]

No errors or nothing?

[umbral herald]

That's weird. Can you export it to a file and send it here?

also that error is all that thunderstore returns :/

[nimble bronze]

how so?

the modpack file?

or just
export > as file

if so (via the modpack creation):

[nimble bronze]

that's unfortunate

[umbral herald]

it looks fine

I'm not sure what thunderstore is complaining about

[nimble bronze]

wacky

[umbral herald]

Yeah idk, the website gives the same error

I guess report it in the thunderstore discord

I think this is on thunderstore

[nimble bronze]

yeah just went there

stupid that it doesnt specify what the issue is

[nimble bronze]

they solved it

[nimble bronze]

i managed to get the same issue as them, no errors

[amber bone]

what if someone imports a profile and almost the whole mod list has duplicates?

[nimble bronze]

If it was already downloaded before it will just use cache

[vital parrot]

Heya, was wondering if this client has an option to clean up unused config files?

[severe belfry]

no

[nimble bronze]

wish it did

[pallid sky]

:,]

[umbral herald]

Yeah sorry I forgot to publish the update properly

Will fix in ~10 min when I get home

[umbral herald]

it's fixed now

[fervent frost]

it would be kinda cool if there was some way (such as a json or yml file) that allows adding a game that supports bepinex but isn't on thunderstore (for example PlateUp) cuz i wanna have mod profiles for it but i dont want to have to re-build each time you update gale

[storm fog]

Is there any way to export the build to a zip file with all the configs and mods?
This would be very convenient for people who play with mods but their friends don’t want to download third-party software, so it’s easy to set up and install all the mods in gale and then export them locally for friends in zip so they don’t have to install it too third party

[fervent frost]

File > Open profile directory then u can just zip that and send it to ur friends

[brisk violet]

My friend's having some trouble importing a modpack code, any idea what could be going wrong on his end?

[carmine linden]

is it just who has the problem of not being able to drag mods anymore? Like in my downloaded mods I could drag them to other areas but I just can't anymore

is that a bug with the newest version or did I do something cause I noticed it didnt work till after I updated gale

[umbral herald]

Maybe you switched sort mode?

It has to be on "Custom"

[umbral herald]

Thunderstore/network issue

[carmine linden]

wdym?

[umbral herald]

In the profile page you can sort by name, last updated, downloads e.t.c with the dropdown in the upper right. It meeds to be on Custom to do custom reorderinh

[umbral herald]

^

[brisk violet]

Was my theory when I first saw it, though when we were trying to figure stuff out the workaround was to use r2 since it worked fine there somehow but that's not exactly ideal since it gets updates slower

Idk what'd cause that, if it's a weird firewall thing or what

[tepid valve]

currently the setting for telemetry is misspelt ("telementry")

[umbral herald]

oh oops

[main plume]

double misspelling

[gaunt haven]

Hi! Has any user tried using Gale on Steam Deck (with Linux)? 🤔

[sage idol]

gale has a native linux build

[gaunt haven]

Hmm, maybe it's worth taking a chance and trying to see if I can use Gale on my Steam deck.

[sage idol]

it should work, i use gale on linux too

[gaunt haven]

I'm just a little scared because it took me two days with a friend to configure r2modman to work on Steam Deck. 😭

But maybe if I follow the same steps I can make it work.

[gaunt haven]

Oki doki.

[sage idol]

usually you have to add a launch option to the game you're modding

[gaunt haven]

Ok, I confirm that Gale works perfectly on Steam Deck, it was too quick to get it working lmao.

Thank you very much, I think if it weren't for you, I wouldn't have tried it. XD

[cerulean flax]

I think it's some kind of bug

[cerulean flax]

deleting the cache helped

[languid remnant]

i tried this launcher for some times, i really liked the modern-er interface, but i have a huge problem with the fact that you can't drag a mod and scroll at the same time (+ when i drag a mod, it seems to move some other mods for whatever reason). i hope it'll be added/fixed at one point, then i'll probably switch to it definitively

[pastel grove]

Why do you need to drag mods?

[shrewd violet]

To sort them I believe

[languid remnant]

^^^^

[shrewd violet]

But you can scroll down by putting your cursor to the bottom while dragging a mod

[languid remnant]

its probably nitpicking but i like my mods organized

[shrewd violet]

Like pretty much to the bottom

[languid remnant]

i know, but when you have a lot of mods to move, it takes a while

[pastel grove]

Ah right i forgot people do that

[languid remnant]

on r2 you can just drag and scroll

something i'd personally like on a mod manager like this or r2 is to organize mods in some kind of subfolders

[pastel grove]

Would def be neat. Those kind of features likely just lower priority because of it being a aethstetic thing

[languid remnant]

true

[severe belfry]

Best option rn is just zoom out to drag

[languid remnant]

wait you can do that ?

[quasi ridge]

i would really love subfolders

though idk how the profile codes are generated

and idk if that information could be transferred

[severe belfry]

Yeah

There's a Zoom factor option in Gale so you can just set it to 50% and drag larger distances more efficiently

[pastel grove]

It’s actually stored on ts servers to an extent iirc. It’s lowkey wild

Gale could probably cheat by just making their own fake config file the game never knows about

[languid remnant]

omg i can barely read the mods name lmao

[severe belfry]

I just select the mod I want to move so it's highlighted

[languid remnant]

i should've probably sent these messages on their discord

not here

[severe belfry]

Doesn't really matter

[barren junco]

[tiny crater]

i'd adore subfolders...

[worn turret]

Hello, my friend is trying to import a profile but they keep getting this error when downloading certain mods. What does this error mean and how do we fix it?

[tropic zodiac]

@umbral herald i ran into an issue, i had a modpack i was trying to get from a pc to another and i simply copied the file from my first pc, then i just pasted the entire profile folder in the lethal company profiles folder and when i tried launching the mod manager it simply said this and crashed

[rocky tide]

yeah I was about to ask if there is a fix for this cuz I just updated from an older version of gale to newest one and I cant open any profile on any game now

exact same message as Boom's report

[umbral herald]

The easiest way to solve this is to just remove all your data

but there are other ways to do it if you want to keep your profiles

[umbral herald]

I think that's a network/thunderstore issue

[worn turret]

Very likely because the issue has gone away after they got a new internet plan

Still it would be nice if not being able to download one mod would keep the import rolling rather than cancelling it, but I don't really know how to system works.

[forest trail]

any idea why this keeps happening

[fickle wigeon]

would be cool if we could sort mod by category

[barren junco]

You can iirc ?

[main plume]

you can sort by category but only one or a set at a time like thunderstore search

so it's half true

[crisp stone]

[shut gate]

any help for my friend on windows 11? he opens gale after a fresh install and it closes immediately

[barren junco]

i thought it was fixed in a recent update

[crisp stone]

Uhh, might not be on the very newest patch yeah

[hardy rover]

Should be able to be turned off though

[crisp stone]

I know, just pointed out the name

[hardy rover]

Oh

LOL

[hallow reef]

Next Gale update, you can send commentary with your telementary

[sudden walrus]

it's still wrong on the latest version though

[barren junco]

Hmm interesting

[main plume]

im cryin he's never getting it right

[umbral herald]

I hate english

[umbral herald]

Not sure what you mean by sort by category, but you can already include/exclude categories

[iron raft]

Can I play on Gale client with people which use R2modman (same mods)

[nova sandal]

Yes

[main plume]

yes

same poo different plumbing

[steady dew]

what does this mean

[steady dew]

but how?

[umbral herald]

Delete gale's data folder

by default it's at AppData/Roaming/com.kesomannen.gale

[iron raft]

I have problem with Gale. When I'm opening it instantly close without any erros and it's active in task manager but I can't do anything. Reinstalling didn't help

[umbral herald]

You might be missing Microsoft Edge Webview2 Runtime

[iron raft]

I have microsoft edge iuninstaleed. Is this a problem?

[umbral herald]

You need Microsoft Edge Webview2 Runtime

it's a dependency of Gale and is by default installed on every windows pc

[umbral herald]

would you prefer something like this for the config editor?

I realized a lot of the vertical space was being wasted, especially in full screen

I also capped the max width which makes it easier to see which fields are what. It does create a lot of empty space to the right though :/

Also the LethalLevelLoader file lags because of the amount of controls

[quasi ridge]

personally i'd like this a lot better

[barren junco]

I like the ui on the left more

Rather than fullscreen

[umbral herald]

The file/section selection list? That still works, by scrolling the right panel when you click a section (similarly to r2modman)

[barren junco]

The full screen one has lots of empty space

[upper cedar]

Empty space = ad space

[scenic helm]

would these sections be collapsible?

[umbral herald]

Probably not since you could use the left sidebar to navigate

but maybe

it's just something I'm experimenting with

[umbral herald]

What do you think about this? The current tooltips are hard to find, but this requires more mouse precision

this would also be for the config page

[scenic helm]

kinda looks like its trying to warn me about something rather than give me a tooltip, but maybe that's just me

[crisp stone]

It looks like that because you can't see the mouse I think

[tribal marsh]

isn't there a way to automatically delete config cache?

I can't find it anymore

[umbral herald]

Hmm I can see that

I'll mess around a bit more

[umbral herald]

Config cache?

Do you mean the mod download cache?

[tribal marsh]

I think so? I want to delete all the generated configs from mods I removed later on.

[umbral herald]

Oh, you can't do that automatically

Unfortunately here's no good way to detect which config files come from which mods

Especially when the source mod is not installed

[scenic helm]

I think it's the bright color doing it. Makes it look like something requires your attention. Might look better if you used the duller gray you use for the refresh icon to the right, or even the darker shade you use for the sidebar

[sudden walrus]

i don't really think the current tooltips are hard to find at all

i think it's a common enough occurrence these days to have to hover over the option name to get a tooltip with more info

[barren junco]

Much better yeah !

A proper Json editor would be very cool too btw

[half coyote]

Can anyone tell me how to launch modded lethal through gaming mode on steam deck?

[velvet hare]

Make it a question mark instead of an “i”

[velvet hare]

You just have to go back through one by one. At least gale usually tells you the plugin name of the mod that generated the cfg

Be careful cuz some mods won’t generated the config again if you delete it lol

at least that happened with StarlancerAIFix

I assumed it would regen

And it broke my enemies not having the cfg but the mod active

[long jacinth]

is there no "save/cancel" on changing config? I seriously just misclicked the reset to default button by accident because I thought that was the button to open the Edit by list window

ive lost all the stuff i put in and i'm pressed to remember wtf exactly it was in there

like ugh dude

ctrl+z and ctrl+y only work for the search bar too for some reason

doesnt actually undo the no confirmation instant reset nuke i just did

f'ing love this mod manager so far but i'm actually so peeved by what I just did that i might go back to thunderstore

it's so easy to mess up stuff too because you can accidentally tap ur keyboard or something before clicking away to another menu and you just get fucked

a single accidental 'f' before my config lines/launching/switching away to diff menu caused me to manhunt 30 minutes for what i did

[severe belfry]

You control the buttons you press

Stupid I guess but also what world would an arrow in a circle be that 😭

[long jacinth]

yeah im aware im a fuckin idiot for pressin the button how could i confuse it

[umbral herald]

It's this way to make it much smoother to edit configs, but yeah unfortunately you can't revert in cases like this. I could add a confirmation dialog before you reset a long config entry as you say though

ctrl+z and ctrl+y only work for the search bar too for some reason
Undo/redo (outside of the builtin text editing tools) is a big feature that gale probably will never have.

[long jacinth]

ty sorry for the rant ive been peeved at everything in life lately

confirmation dialog before reset would be great

(for any reset, probably)

[umbral herald]

Right, I should also note that gale should hide config files that are no longer used (they will still be on your filesystem but not in the list)

Because it hides any config files which only have orphaned entries, which are created when BepInEx parses a cfg file, but no mods read from it

[languid remnant]

i think they shouldnt be hidden, they should be separated

so that you can filter out which files are not used anymore

would be great for cleanups

[umbral herald]

hmm

actually, why would you even remove old config files?

isn't it good if you want to install the mod again

And they are very small

[languid remnant]

its when i dont want it installed again

[severe belfry]

for if you know you won't install the mod again and you want to save a whole 5kb of space

[umbral herald]

Yeah..

I'm not sure a feature like that is worth the time and possible confusion

[languid remnant]

id imagine something like, the unused config files would be at the bottom of the list, in gray

[umbral herald]

Ill think about it

I'm also not 100% sure it can actually detect which are unused either

BepInEx can be a bit weird about configs sometimes

[tribal marsh]

Cause it'd be suspicious if the jiggle physics plugin cfg was in the list but not in the mod pack

[umbral herald]

It would be bad if a config file accidentally got listed as unused and someone removed it (for example I've seen LLL configs get orphaned if you just launch the game without joining a lobby)

[languid remnant]

thats just a suggestion, i know nothing on how bepinex works

like, theres small stuff i think gale could do which would be cool, but i dont know if they are feasible

[velvet hare]

I also misclicked once and it was a major Oopsie but luckily I had a recent backup lol

Rn my workaround for this lack of undo features or confirmation popups is constant export of profile codes to revert to a backup essentially

Which is less than ideal

Either way gale kicks ass and so much better than r2

[tribal marsh]

does gale automatically update or do I go to the github or r2mm to update

I think it'd be awesome if this part of the configs had search bars too

[umbral herald]

There's a button to update in the app whenever there's a new update (similarly to discord)

[tribal marsh]

ah okay

[tribal marsh]

is there a prefix for searching for these things under a config folder?

[vague ermine]

Hi! I just opened an issue on Github but thought I should say something here as well
A new game called R.E.P.O. was just added to Thunderstore and I was hoping that could be shown on Gale too.
Thanks!

[spark jolt]

I'm not sure if it's just me, but I think the default path for "Steam.exe" should have Steam be lower case "steam.exe"

[cunning rapids]

doesn't matter on Windows

[spark jolt]

ok

[cerulean stream]

@umbral herald Pack duplication broke. From testing it looks like both packs link to the new duplicate on gale but when launching it does launch the correct one.

[umbral herald]

ah oops

I know what's wrong

[ionic harness]

oh lol, you also use Supabase

[fervent frost]

does gale automatically generate configs somehow?

since i've installed a modpack that has 7 configs however it seems to have configs of all mods generated

oh nvm

[umbral herald]

I'm experimenting with a little something ;)

[barren junco]

🇸🇪

That's nice !

[real fern]

Woah.

[slow pecan]

I kjeep getting this error

anyone know what's up?

nvm fixed it

[tribal marsh]

being able to pin configs like LLL would be nice

[heavy talon]

i'm facing this error a lot, and experiencing some crashes

[heavy talon]

the app crashes right after i do an alt+tab for switching windows, if i switch windows manually it don't happen

[umbral herald]

Looks like you might be on an old version

[heavy talon]

i already reinstalled gale

but there's a way to see if i'm still in a old version? it don't tells me to update or nothing else

[umbral herald]

You are on the latest version

I guess the error is some network or thunderstore issue

haven't seen it before

or actually it could be the one that was malwarebytes' fault

Yeah, if you have malwarebytes installed check that it isn't blocking gale

[heavy talon]

i'm not

i don't use antivirus at all

[umbral herald]

ok

then I'm unsure why that error is happening

[heavy talon]

it appears right after i start gale, then it disappears

but what is most annoying are the crashes for no reason

[umbral herald]

I've heard about crashes when alt tabbing, but without being able to reproduce it I don't know how to approach it

maybe send logs?

[heavy talon]

ok, 1sec

other issue that i'm having is that most of the mods that i'm downloading i'm not able to change the configs on gale, it don't appear, but their files are created and i can change it on the files

[umbral herald]

Can you send an example of a config that isn't shown by gale?

[umbral herald]

unfortunately doesn't tell me much

[heavy talon]

nvm, just fixed it by relaunching the game

[frigid heron]

WAIT IS THIS THE THING I MENTIONED ONCE

that is fucking SICK

[tribal marsh]

I swear there's configs being generated from mods I don't have installed

like lethal hands config appeared out of nowhere

which I have never downloaded before

[long jacinth]

this would genuinely save me actual hours telling my friends "dude i told you update all mods before you launch"

omfg

10 minutes of launching lethal, 20 minutes of waiting for someone to finish eating, 25 minutes of waiting for someone to launch and then not be able to connect to lobby because they didnt update mods,

[tranquil ember]

What did you do to the UI :(

This is so disorientating

Why doesn't it encompass the whole tab anymore

[umbral herald]

I think it’s a lot easier to see which entry is which this way

Preferably it would be in the middle but I didn’t find a nice way to do that with the sidebar

[tranquil ember]

Can there be an option to bring back how the ui initially was

because it's really hard to work with in my experience

[umbral herald]

Well, you could revert back a version

or make the window smaller

but I'm probably not adding a setting for it, sorry

[tranquil ember]

This is not a good option if you want to keep up with qol stuff and optimization

This UI change is genuinely frustrating to use and Idk why you don't see a reason to add an option for it

It's not like there are other mod manager options since Thunderstore/R2 run like toasters

[tranquil ember]

This also doesn't fix my issue, and small windows in general are a pain

[umbral herald]

I feel like most people either prefer it like this or don't care. A setting like that wouldn't be worth the effort and bloat of adding it

[tranquil ember]

Disappointing

[stiff quest]

Old UI? What's the new one?

[dapper harbor]

The same thing but wider I assume

[languid remnant]

@umbral herald hello, could a sort of "update blacklist" be added in your mod manager, so that we can disable some mods to be updated while still keeping the other mods updated ?

[umbral herald]

You can already ignore updates in the "Update All" dialog

[main plume]

idk i kinda like the config ui being more middle

only widecreen nerds will have problems

[languid remnant]

didnt know that, thanks !

[languid remnant]

wait... is there a way to readd a mod to the update all dialog ?

might have tested with a random mod and now i cant find the way to revert it

[umbral herald]

You can edit the file, but not in the app no

It does however only ignore it for that specific update

and you can also always update by clicking on it and hitting the big green button

[languid remnant]

good to know

[slow pecan]

yo

how can I see the list of my modpacks dependencies with gale

[slow pecan]

Is there a way I can open up multiple gale mod manager windows?

[umbral herald]

Click on a mod then Dependencies on the right panel

[umbral herald]

no

[slow pecan]

i figured it out

[slow pecan]

damn ok

[tiny ocean]

Im not sure if this is where I would ask, but are you able to add R.E.P.O (game) to Gale? I think theres already mods that let you exceed the 6 player max count, and love using Gale as my mod manager so it would be nice if Gale adds R.E.P.O to supported games

[severe belfry]

It does already have support

[tiny ocean]

do i need to update or smth?

[cunning rapids]

yes

[tiny ocean]

Ok, where do i update gale?

[severe belfry]

It was added in 1.4.0

[cunning rapids]

at the top right there is a button to update the gale

[tiny ocean]

Ok thank you

i dont say this very often but wish it was more obnoxious so i would see it easier

[languid remnant]

i mean its a green button on a blue background

color which can be changed

[crystal pagoda]

it is pretty obvious yeah

[brisk valley]

When i click "ignore update" for a mod, how do i then "un-ignore" the update?

[severe belfry]

It only ignores it for that specific update, so if the mod updates again it'll show up again in "Update All"

Otherwise will have to go to the mod itself on the list

[brisk valley]

ah ok, thanks

[spare jewel]

Would it be possible to navigate lists in the config via the arrow keys? Like in the screenshot, pressing up would take me up to "Custom Dungeon: Cabin" or pressing down would bring me to "Custom Dungeon: OfficeDungeonFlow"
It's not a dealbreaker if it never happens, I'm already sticking with this mod manager now, but keyboard interactions like that are just super convenient to me

[pure anchor]

how do i fix this, wasnt happening before

cant open gale at all due to this

[main plume]

a very brutal and quick fix is to delete that profile in your gale data folder (in settings)

i could've sworn there was a way to get log

[main plume]

by default its AppData/Roaming/com.kesomannen.gale

[main plume]

ah could you also do this

and upload it here or in the gale discord

before you do the fix if you're in a rush

[pure anchor]

i cant do this since i cant open gale

[main plume]

oh entirely

well then dig into roaming and get it from there

[pure anchor]

but i dont care about deleting the profile since i barely play content warning and its not my mod pack anyways

i kind of just now turned off my pc cause i didnt want to just leave it on doing nothing since basically all i do now a days is play lethal company lmao

ill do all of this when im back on it

[floral cargo]

It's been a while I haven't openned Gale, I'm met with this, what's the issue ?

[pure anchor]

i literally reported the exact same issue, just read above

[floral cargo]

oh shoot

my bad

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald For some reason it keeps failing to update 🤔

[umbral herald]

right I forgot to press the magic button

try it now

[hardy rover]

Worked lol, guessing there's a link you have it connect to that it couldn't access

[umbral herald]

Yeah it's the github release

[hardy rover]

[stiff quest]

https://tenor.com/view/button-press-42-42paris-wmf-gif-8280264191666156226

[hardy rover]

Is that the big red button from Gratar? ;o

[frigid heron]

would you consider adding Close button next to the 3 dots? in it's current position it's hidden in the furthest possible place and you can't close the contextual menu using Esc or other keybind 😅

[severe belfry]

you can close it by clicking on the mod in the mod list again

[frigid heron]

i'm thinking about something like this

[frigid heron]

that's not intuitive

[severe belfry]

that's true

[scenic helm]

I'm not sure how exactly this could be fixed, but the most common annoyance I have with Gale currently is when looking through configs of new mods and hovering over a (?) to see what each of them do

as the info boxes will block the other question marks

sometimes its fine when you can start from the top and make your way down, since the text usually defaults to being on the top of the mark, but then if the text is too long you suddenly have to move your mouse out of the way to continue

its not like a huge problem or anything, but its kinda annoying and wasn't a problem when you could just hover over the entire name, especially since you have to be more precise with your mouse now

I think the issue is that either the question marks or the info boxes don't work very well in the middle of the screen

I was thinking something like this would work better?

though, that's also not perfect as now the entire name of the field is covered, its not a huge deal since it tells you it in the info box anyway

actually I think moving the info box instead looks even better

[lilac pilot]

When I run the latest appimage release of Gale Mod Loader on my steam deck, the window is invisible for some reason. Am I doing something wrong?

[visual galleon]

yee gale just didnt open for me last night. i had to get r2 again lel

[cunning notch]

Yeah the appimage might be broken, at least on some systems. I wonder though if a Flatpak package could be made, and if it can be made work, then that would basically work on any distro which would be great. But yeah that requires figuring out flatpak packaging and optionally getting the app on Flathub

[visual galleon]

im on windows and it didnt work

[cunning notch]

oh

[visual galleon]

yea i open it, i see my profile name says "undefined" and 1 sec later it just crashes

[green wind]

Appimage works on my system at least

[willow fog]

100th fire react 🔥

[frosty sorrel]

okay what happened to the new ui redesign?

[umbral herald]

scrapped unfortunately

[cinder basin]

Why

[umbral herald]

I decided it was too much work to redo a ui that was already good enough. It was also coupled with a massive rewrite of the backend which met som problems I could't solve (I could've split off the ui changes but ehh, that meant more work)

Also I guess it didn't pass the vibe check by enough

[dapper harbor]

I didn't even see it until now

[visual galleon]

any thing wrong with this log? every time i open it just crashes

nvm, i deleted all gale files and redownloaded and its working now

my b

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald You forget the magic button again?

[umbral herald]

uhh yeah

[hardy rover]

I thought so cus usually the updater works a couple mins after the update is pushed to Thunderstore lol

[cinder basin]

Failed to update Gale - InvalidSignature

what should i do now?

[cunning rapids]

ignore for now

gale build failed, bobbo is probably aware

[hardy rover]

I updated Gale just fine though

Or is Danielus using Linux?

[cinder basin]

no

win 10

[cunning rapids]

isn't signature check is only for windows?

[hardy rover]

Oh

Maybe it's broken on Win 10 then

cus I'm on 11 and it updated without issues

Not sure though

[cunning rapids]

try to manually update gale
https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/releases/

[quasi ridge]

im on 11 and got invalid signature too

[hardy rover]

Weird

Why'd it update fine for me? 😆

[quasi ridge]

shrug

[hardy rover]

It sounds like in the issue report on Github if you get that issue manually updating it with the updated msi works

[quasi ridge]

yeah im just gonna manual update

it is curious though

[hardy rover]

Probably some strange issue where it's failing to grab the msi for some people when they try to use the updater

so it just screams invalid signature

[quasi ridge]

i like the primary color setting

it's very nice

i would like being able to set custom colors though

would love this aesthetic for gale

but all of the greens are too bright, they only really work as accents

[sudden walrus]

how do you do this

[quasi ridge]

i love green but this doesn't work for me

[quasi ridge]

i just found this screenshot on google

https://gamebanana.com/mods/23695

[sudden walrus]

sad....

[quasi ridge]

but it links to this 15 year old skin

who knows if it still works

[sudden walrus]

15 years old im sure it will be fine

[obtuse jetty]

This is relatively similar and its new if you'd like it
https://steambrew.app/theme?id=8YTvx3fAAfwQSu6MNOfH

[quasi ridge]

it's a little boxy for my taste but i do love the color

[hardy rover]

You can still theme it? iirc they killed off themes 🤔

[obtuse jetty]

Millenium is the new way of installing themes and plugins to steam

[hardy rover]

Hmmm

[obtuse jetty]

it's like a Vencord/BetterDiscord equivalent for Steam

[hardy rover]

I kinda just prefer Steam as-is nowadays honestly I only used to theme it when they allowed it cus the old color scheme was hideous

They've greatly improved it lol

Steam in the 2010's was not fantastic to look at

I never used it when it was green though

[dapper harbor]

same thing here

[sudden walrus]

signature thing is now fixed

[muted crystal]

Hey all, I am currently having an issue with my modpack where I am trying to experiment with HazardControl, but Gale is not generating a config file for it (testing in a fresh profile shows it should have one). I have tried the basics like restarting Gale, uninstalling HazardControl, and disabling a few potentially conflicting mods, but nothing has worked. Any ideas would be appreciated!

[umbral herald]

Is the file being created at all?

[muted crystal]

It does not turn up in the config menu

The mod works and LethalConfig detects a config menu, it is this weird half-state

If I try to edit the cod it via LethalConfig it resets upon game restart

[umbral herald]

I meant check in the files

you can do that easily in gale by going to File > Open profile folder then BepInEx/config

[muted crystal]

It does not appear in there either

[umbral herald]

then it's an issue with the mod or (unlikely) BepInEx

[muted crystal]

Darn

Guess I gotta figure something out, thanks for the insight

[tiny crater]

updating through the app from 1.4.3 to 1.5.2 causes gale to just, not update. it goes through everything correctly but when i re-open it it's still 1.4.3

[umbral herald]

Try to update manually

[celest moth]

is there annyway i can fix this without changing back my drive letter

actually nvm even when i changed the drive letter back and restarted it just show this

[tawny burrow]

is there a discord where i can request games?

id like to request repo to be added to this, as it is added to the thunderstore mod manager

[dapper harbor]

just update gale

gale has repo

[mortal magnet]

Failed to update mods - Failed to install DistinctBlaze-ExtraEnemyVariety: error decoding response body: error reading a body from connection: end of file before message length reached.
I've been getting errors similar to this whenever I've been trying to update my mods via Gale

aaaand now it works

'-'

[dapper harbor]

probably just a network issue at the time

[barren crescent]

did the newest gale update required to restart the computer?
when I updated to 1.5.4, my computer suddenly restarted after updating

[tender hare]

@umbral herald The new update broke the configs, when ever I click on one of the sections it just wont do anything and all the other button dont work.

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Any configs affected by the new change to have spaces are broken and can't be edited in Gale

[hardy rover]

Okay nvm it's just a random chance that no config can be modified through Gale right now

[hardy rover]

Anyways I will send a vid cus the new Gale update completely locks up after this

[alpine pond]

Yup here to report the same issue, upon trying to edit any config Gale locks up, thankfully i can still click "X" and it will close. So no need to bring out task manager, but still commenting for the sake of keeping a look out for fix solutions or an update

[hardy rover]

I just rolled back to the previous version for now til a hotfix is released

[crystal pagoda]

your desktop is so clean

mines kinda messy

[umbral herald]

Mine's this xD

[hardy rover]

I had an Nvidia icon on mine til I had to update my drivers cus Discord was crashing them and it decided to delete itself lol

Hope the bug with Gale is easy to fix btw lol

[umbral herald]

I almost never use the desktop icons anyway

[umbral herald]

yeah it was just a couple of lines

update coming soon

[hardy rover]

But yeah I was sticking to the 566.36 driver for a while cus it was stable, then Discord's ui update decided to cause them to have a fit when I went to hang out in vc with some people I got graphical artifacting and a driver crash and was legit surprised lol

[hardy rover]

Noice c; I rolled it back til you could fix it just to avoid any possibility of configs not being exported properly lol

[umbral herald]

I don't think I've upgraded my drivers in like a year

[hardy rover]

Lmao

Yeah surprisingly the ui change for being in vc calls with a lot of people and my previous Graphics driver just hated each other

But then again my friend said the new Game Overlay caused her whole pc to crash when updating the Epic Games launcher so eesh

[scenic helm]

love the new custom theme colors in gale

though I noticed it's for some reason significantly darker than it should be?

for example, I wanted gale's RGB to be 30/30/46, but in order to get it to that color I had to set gale to 91/90/109

[umbral herald]

That has to do with the different shades that gale uses

when you input a color, it generates 8 or so colors with different brightness

the background color is one of the darker shades

[scenic helm]

I see

a bit counterintuitive but with a little trial and error I found the color I wanted so I'm happy with it

something a bit off I noticed: the background behind the "update all" text still bases it off of whatever color was selected before changing to custom

[frosty sorrel]

on my desktop i have only the track bin cuz you cannot remove it… if i were home i could show a screenshot

and an igor’s theme wallpaper

[obtuse jetty]

You could hide desktop icons if you don't want the recycle bin on your desktop

[frosty sorrel]

i know, i used that when my desktop was dirty, but i want the bin cuz i remove a lot of files

[crystal pagoda]

does gale still shit itself when looking through configs

was the fix pushed yet,,

[severe belfry]

fixed

in 1.5.5

[crystal pagoda]

yay

sowee cant check not home, was just wonderin

[cunning rapids]

I just noticed that if you move file over the gale window, then gale just dies and you will have to restart it, to use it again

[hardy rover]

This is in general I reported it a while ago, if Gale isn't minimized then dragging and dropping files breaks it

[tropic tide]

Gotta love the inexplicable event of stuff working 10 minutes later

[limpid cosmos]

Is there support for Schedule 1? It's on the thunderstore but not on gale.

[limpid cosmos]

@umbral herald

[stiff quest]

I just opened Gale and had a giant G for a solid 10 seconds

Is that normal?

[umbral herald]

wut

[stiff quest]

-# This is not a joke btw

[umbral herald]

Linux issue idk

[stiff quest]

Also a one-time thing apparently 🤔

[stiff quest]

Okay, I guess 😅

I wish I made a screenshot in time, but was too distracted laughing

[bold hornet]

same

[stiff quest]

I have 5 things on mine 💀

And never use any of them

[limpid cosmos]

@umbral herald

@umbral herald

Not being added?

[severe belfry]

it was added in the latest update

1.5.6

[limpid cosmos]

Thank you, don't know why op ignored me

[echo comet]

Poking people like that, and repeatedly, is generally considered rude

[limpid cosmos]

Asking a question and getting no response is generally considered rude.

that is like walking up to someone irl asking something, and they just look you look straight in the eyes and say nothing and they move on to chat with others.

Let's be real

Please i see you typing, this doesnt concern you, if you have a problem DM me, this is not the place for it.

[echo comet]

Someone put in a ticket for schedule 1 on github 4 days ago, so your voicemail or such here quite likely wasn't even seen yet, and assuming they don't have pings from this server disabled

[limpid cosmos]

This doesnt concern you, if you have a problem DM me, this is not the place for it.

[echo comet]

Why do you talk like you're in a mafia movie

And you pinged me in that reply... and now you expect no response? Lmao

[limpid cosmos]

I asked a simple question and got ignored. I’m allowed to be annoyed by that and he has all right to ignore me.

If you have an issue with how I expressed that,
take it to DMs. No need to derail the chat

[cinder basin]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-oh-my-god-ambatukam-gif-25484769

[cunning notch]

My desktop environment doesn't even support stuff on the desktop (GNOME ftw)

[split falcon]

i cant find repo in gale mod manager, is it not added yet?

[dapper harbor]

it is

dont even need to search it

[frosty sorrel]

this looks awesome

[split falcon]

what

let me search again

[split falcon]

it doesnt show for me

oh wait

lemme update

yeah it showed up ty

[harsh dome]

Was having issues updating Gale at some point so I uninstalled (wiped from computer). Got back around to trying it again and upon reinstalling and launching it I just get this error.

[echo comet]

There's still stuff where it saves data then I'd assume?

[scarlet hound]

go to %appdata%/com.kesomannen.gale then delete prefs.json i had to do the same thing lol

[harsh dome]

Oh duh, thanks!

[remote field]

what does this mean?

Failed to install mod - Failed to install Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization: error sending request for url (https://gcdn.thunderstore.io/live/repository/packages/Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization-1.1.1.zip): client error (Connect): An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host. (os error 10054).

[umbral herald]

Thunderstore/network issue

[mighty oxide]

^fren having issue

^what they did

[mighty oxide]

disregard. they fixed the issue

[main plume]

-# and ur not gonna say HOW they fixed it??

[mighty oxide]

it was a file placement thing.

on their end

[frail lintel]

repo doesnt exist on gale

[umbral herald]

• Make sure you have the latest version 1.5.6
• Search for R.E.P.O. (with the dots)

[eternal tulip]

hey i wanted to ask why mod updates take about an hour to appear on gale?? just curious

[bold hornet]

make em take longer, i dont like how good this is compared to thunderstore

[main plume]

not just gale

thunderstore just does it whenever they feel like it from a minute to a couple hours

[eternal tulip]

oh really?

i guess i never noticed

[main plume]

yeah it's known

the site is the fastest

mod managers catch the update whenever it gets beamed

which is a long spectrum of time

[eternal tulip]

Good to know ty!!

[umbral herald]

Yeah thunderstore has some pretty heavy caching

[hardy rover]

I figured you should know there's a bug btw, with Gale 1.5.6 the default profile for Lethal Company corrupts itself and becomes unavailable after the first launch, and if you don't happen to make another profile before relaunching Gale just errors on boot

It seems to only be for Lethal as far as I'm aware, REPO at least is unaffected

[hardy rover]

Well this is weird but it didn't happen after I reinstalled Windows, so I suspect it was a side effect of one of the many things that broke with my previous Windows install

Logi Tune is a piece of shit software and the updater hooked into so much shit it shouldn't have that when I uninstalled it so much broke

I will never recommend anyone touch that software

Ever

[hushed star]

Hey so, does anyone know how fix this? I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Gale, to no avail.

[cerulean stream]

feature idea: shift or ctrl click on mods to select multiple mods in a pack so you can move multiple of them around. makes organizing the list of mods a lot faster

[deft locust]

1.5.7 seems to cause Gale to crash when fetching mods

[past bane]

[umbral herald]

Fix is coming soon

sorry about that

[mighty oxide]

... and how are we gonna upgrade this?

and is there a way to roll it back without deleting profiles?

[cunning rapids]

manually

[mighty oxide]

so... if i uninstall Gale and reinstall it, will profile data still be there?

[cunning rapids]

I don't think you need to uninstall Gale to install the other version

[quasi ridge]

you can just reinstall without uninstalling (unless something changes in a recent version)

ive also never had issues with data loss when uninstalling

it should be fine

[mighty oxide]

works. thanks guys. didnt want to lose everything i installed ^^

[pallid sky]

Having this too

[mighty oxide]

downgrade

to 1.5.6

[umbral herald]

update is coming in like 5 minutes

it's out now

[hushed star]

Still having this issue

[hushed star]

That worked, thank you @main plume!

[cunning rapids]

found out that in launching modal it allows windows webview context to be shown on right click

[main plume]

have had it happen without

[robust lark]

@umbral herald Hey we have a thread where somebody was able to manually upload a modpack but it fails thru gale over in the TS discord and you're not in it. Do you want to join and like talk to them or is this a known issue?

Oh wait, I see you in there now, discord moment, I guess?

[frigid heron]

Hey @umbral herald, why Gale doesn't display the full config entry name?
This is a comparison of r2modman and Gale displaying Shovel (Item) config entry

i found what is being changed

but why 😔

[umbral herald]

It's to be consistent across config files (as well as the rest of gale's UI) since people use all kinds of case styles

But yeah I could make it keep parantheses

[frigid heron]

makes sense, thanks for the response! 😅

[bleak dagger]

I like that background ngl

[deft locust]

i got it from here: https://unsplash.com/@martz90

[bleak dagger]

thanks <3

[neon kestrel]

Sorry for bothering, but modded REPO when launched from Gale seems to not launch any mods at all, but the same mods, down to the version, launched from r2modman works fine. Is there any way to fix this on your end?

[dreamy walrus]

hi, i'm not sure if you're on linux or not, or if this even applies here, but i am having quite a bit of trouble finding the executable for steam, because im not even sure it exists on linux and therefore cannot be connected to gale? im new to linux so im sorry if this is a dumb question

[robust lark]

depends on what distro you're using and how you installed it /usr/games/steam is where my binary is but I'm on Mint which is a Debian flavor and I installed steam locally without Flatpak

Open a terminal and try running which steamto see where your binary is launching from

@dreamy walrus See above

[dreamy walrus]

i installed it through the software manager, and im on mint. i get the error Failed to launch game - Failed to find steam library location: failed to read libraryfolders.vdf: No such file or directory (os error 2).

i dont think its the right folder but it is under /usr/games/steam

it is the right folder, huh

[robust lark]

weirdt

[dreamy walrus]

ok, i kind of fixed it? i just manually selected the lethal company folder

its only for that specific game, but i only mod 2 games using gale anyways

[dreamy walrus]

ok another problem: gale isnt launching it modded, but ill have to restart my PC to see if it works again

yea its not starting modded, odd

no plugins were produced

[crystal pagoda]

Failed to update Gale - InvalidSignature

help

i cant update...

[bold hornet]

have u tried getting a better signature

[cerulean stream]

where do i get a better signature

is it a secret on wesley's moons?

[hardy rover]

Same error for me, guess you gotta manually update or wait for the magic Bobbo fix

[umbral herald]

The frick

[robust lark]

what did u do, Bobbo.. or should I call u.. Dumbbo, gotem

[hardy rover]

I'm surprised the previous version worked okay, neither of the last 2 releases are recognized as signed when running the installers lol

I just manually installed Gale 1.5.9 but yeah 1.5.8 also popped up the smart screen

rng ig

Prolly unsigned version not recognizing another unsigned version

So it screamed invalid

[cunning notch]

new game on TS btw https://thunderstore.io/c/lost-skies/

[crisp stone]

I love shutting down my old games due to mismanagement and then rebooting them under a publisher

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald The current build of Gale is extremely buggy and broken when it comes to creating or importing new profiles

I feel like it has gotten progressively more and more broken ever since 1.5.6

With 1.5.10 for Lethal it would replace the Default profile with mine when I told it to import and Create a new profile, I then couldn't click on or interact with my actual named profile at all and upon restart it no longer showed up in Gale

Likewise with R.E.P.O it killed the Default profile in the same way after importing a new profile

1.5.5 behaves completely fine

I first noticed this behavior with 1.5.6 where it would always nuke the Default profile after import but this is the worst it's been tbh

Nvm it deleted the Default profile with 1.5.5 too after restarting Gale

But it at least imported my profile correctly

Such weird behavior

Wonder if it's some stacking side effect from this change in 1.5.2

I also will note, if you create just the Default profile on any affected version of Gale and restart it it will error on boot saying the profile already exists

[umbral herald]

What is happening exactly?

You could also be getting issued because of reverting versions. This is not something that's officially supported by gale

[hardy rover]

I mean this was on a fresh install of Windows mind you that 1.5.10 was doing this

I deleted the cache directories and downgraded just to import my profiles properly then updated it back to latest

But I tested creating a new profile with Gale 1.5.10 after encountering the bug where importing my profile would override the default, and upon making a new profile I couldn't interact with it

It kept just always selecting the default

with any build of 1.5.5-1.5.8 it just nukes the default profile for whatever reason after a restart after importing your profile, but that's not as bad since it at least allows you to import profiles or create new profiles

[umbral herald]

ok..

[hardy rover]

with all of them up to 1.5.10, if you just restart it with only the default profile created

it breaks

and says it already exists

[umbral herald]

There's a lot of stuff here so it's really hard to know how to reproduce any of them

[umbral herald]

I've seen that one before but I've not been able to consistenty reproduce it

[hardy rover]

Yeah that one seems to happen consistently

with Lethal Company for me?

R.E.P.O. is fine

[umbral herald]

Any more details on when you get it?

Clearing my data -> choosing lethal company -> closing and reopening works fine for me

[hardy rover]

Very odd lol

Maybe it's something with disabling telemetry and changing colors?

🤔

Cus I always do that

[umbral herald]

How are you resetting your data?

[hardy rover]

Just deleting the folders under appdata

[umbral herald]

That should work fine

[hardy rover]

I'm curious if the msi package isn't installing something properly if it's fine on your end of things

[umbral herald]

I'm also using the msi so probably not that

[hardy rover]

Hmmm

[umbral herald]

and basically all it's doing is extracting an exe file anyway

[hardy rover]

I'm curious why it's breaking for me but not you though lol, missing dependency of some sort?

[umbral herald]

sounds unlikely

[hardy rover]

I mean it's hard to guess what could be doing it on a clean Windows install

lol

[umbral herald]

If you have the energy I would really appreciate if you tested some things and see if you can get the error(s)

and give me a detailed list of instructions

if you don't want to delete all your data you can rename the com.kesomannen.gale folder

and rename it back when you're done

[hardy rover]

Literally is that simple for me

LOL

[umbral herald]

wow

Can you send the log?

both the first and second time would be best

[hardy rover]

Btw the issue exclusive to 1.5.10 I mentioned

should be both logs

[umbral herald]

ok I think I found the issue

[hardy rover]

Hooray

It's just weird you couldn't repro it lmao

Dev treatment 😂

[umbral herald]

Yeah idk why it isn't happening to me

But that issue is probably the cause of your other issues

I think

The problem was that the default profile created from switching games wasn't being saved in the database until you actually did something with the profile

[hardy rover]

Lol interesting

[robust lark]

I bet loonie is just breaking things all the time for attention

[hardy rover]

No lmao

I broke it on accident XD

I did a Windows reinstall cus I had to update my Bios today and I saw reports that the latest Nvidia drivers finally fixed issues with 24h2 so I was like "Well why not" then broke Gale 😭

Lmfao

I installed the hotfix one ofc, after the temperature issues with the latest

I knew to avoid that one

[robust lark]

[velvet oxide]

Hey guys

i have a problem

with my friend

He launches gale

its a white-window

And instantly crashes

how to fix?

@umbral herald ?

[main plume]

do they have Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime

[carmine linden]

I was wondering if you take suggestions for features to add

[umbral herald]

I do, just add them to the github page

[hoary pawn]

what could be the problem?

[wooden whale]

I love this so much

but for some reason I cant export modpacks cuz

"Failed to upload pack - Failed to write icon: The system cannot find the path specified. (os error 3)."

[umbral herald]

Thunderstore or network issue

should fix itself if you try again later

[umbral herald]

You have probably moved or removed the icon from when you selected it in gale

[wooden whale]

oh i didint even know I needed an icon mb

u should add like a red box over what u havent selected but need for autistic ppl like me lol

still amazing tho I genuinlly love this so much

[kindred stag]

my gale bricked (because of something I broke) so I had to do a clean install
I couldnt grab a profile code (as it was bricked) so I just grabbed the profile files
is there a way to make gale recognize the files?
I put the profiles back and it shows no mods in the profile but pressing play runs all the mods

[marsh eagle]

Forgive me if this has been asked, but I'm trying to launch the game directly on Linux, but it doesn't patch in the mods when doing so. It works fine when launching through Steam, though. Running endeavourOS. Has anyone here gotten this to work? Is there a certain launch parameter I should be using?

[nova sandal]

May be cuz you didn't grab the file that stores the list of mods in your profile. I wouldnjust go over the plugins folder and re add each one manually (make a copy of the profile folderagain cuz reinstalling them may break stuff or just add them manually in a new profile)

[umbral herald]

Probably WINEDLLOVERRIDE="winhttp=n,b"

[robust lark]

If it works thru steam then they already have the dll override working

If you aren't doing the override on the whole prefix and just using launch params then you have to copy that everywhere that launches it. I recommend using protontricks (or winecfg on the prefix) and setting winhttp to native on the prefix itself

[kindred stag]

That’s probably it unfortunately

https://tenor.com/view/frog-frog-laughing-gif-25708743

[marsh eagle]

This worked, thanks!

[wooden whale]

it wont let me use Ultrakill cuz Failed to set active game - Game ultrakill has no profiles., and even after adding a new folder to Ultrakill's profiles folder it still wont let me

any help?

[umbral herald]

remove the default folder in ultrakills profiles folder

[wooden whale]

theres nothing in the profiles folder

[umbral herald]

huh

could you go to %appdata%/com.kesomannen.gale and send the data.sqlite3 file?

[fast halo]

Why is the display name missing some characters and words?

shouldn't it be DBJ.LC_GiftBox_Config.Items.Vanilla?

but its missing the punctuation and the entire word "Items"

[fast halo]

it seems to work correctly when I just do DBJ.LC_GiftBox_Config.Items 🤔

[deft locust]

I've been having the same error, the only game that is working for me is Lethal Company

This is after a clean install of Windows

Prior to it it was working just fine

[umbral herald]

It takes the name from the metadata inside the file (which also shown at Created by XXX). The Vanilla is added because there would have been another file with the same display name

[umbral herald]

this data file is completely empty, are you sure you sent the right one?

or actually, send the -wal and -shm files

[deft locust]

yes, its the only data.sqlite file in the %appdata%/com.kensomannen.gale folder

[deft locust]

ok so i managed to "fix" it

i had to delete all my gale profiles and the stuff that was inside the %appdata% folder

and now it managed to generate the .sqlite file properly

with the tables inside of it

[limpid cosmos]

@umbral herald Hey brother, I've proposed a thunderstore upgrade for mod aliases and rebranding, letting mods change names without losing package history or causing fragmentation. Would love to hear your thoughts on whether this is realistic and/or a solid solution!
https://github.com/thunderstore-io/Thunderstore/issues/1144

[robust lark]

I think being able to rename packages is a good thing but this suggestion is really not it

1. Why is there an endpoint for resolving aliases / Why is this the responsibility of consumers? When requesting a package the consumer should never need to do more than simply provide the name it knows the package by, resolving aliases, links, redirects, or other resolution should be the provider's responsibility. Mod managers and consumers do not care how {x name} => {y package} just that it does

2. Aliases exposed in the manifest / left up to the author. This is just straight up not acceptable, in my view. Keep in mind I'm a Site Moderator, not a developer, but I can't see why we would let aliases be a part of the manifest. This is something I envision would be best suited for the site UI. You'd have your original package name in the manifest at all times and if you want to alias it you request it via a form. Accepted requests would point the new alias to the old name and would have a large 'cooldown' period. There is no universe where I see an aliases field that the user has control of that reserves names in the backend being implemented, that is far too open to abuse and requires far too much work validating each time a manifest is uploaded. For example, we'd need to check the canonical name of an uploaded manifest and then pull its aliases from the backend and then compare with the list of aliases each time a manifest is uploaded with your suggestion. That just isn't feasible at all and I haven't even addressed how we would do cyclical alias checking like your post suggests.

3. Your suggestions that mod managers should use the alias API to handle redirects conflicts with your description of handling it as a middleware in the section on compatibility.

4. This whole thing reads like it was AI generated and if that is true, I expect contributors to do the bare minimum and spend a small fraction of the time they ask from the site devs when requesting a feature and write the proposal themselves. This is especially noticeable in your 'related issues' section where basically none of the issues are related

[wooden whale]

sorry didnt see this after updating it started working so

but uh

for some reason its showing a combination of ultrakill and lethal company mods

[limpid cosmos]

1. Geez Robyn lol. I could give a damn about any specific solution. The problem needs fixing, and no ones talks about it for some reason. Thunderstore's current system needs to address these flaws. This is a problem of the current needs of modders/users and the Thunderstore ecosystem. I could give a rats ass if ai was involved or not. That's a personal problem. I care about results, and getting discussions going and moving :)

2. You mention about doing the bared minimum, I'm a hard worker "Mommy"(jokingly) hahee. I've spent my free time in the schedule one modding discord when there was only 20 members in there, talking to the admin telling and everyone to convert to thunderstore/gale system instead of nexus, hmm free advertisement. Which I did. Not to mention I've got 1000s people to use gale/thunderstore, with a single youtube video alone. But everyone entitled to their own opinions.

3. I ask Bobbo for his insights on this because, he gets shit done, highly respectable. Why go to thunderstore that doesn't even have a way to comment on mod pages https://github.com/thunderstore-io/Thunderstore/issues/12 this issue was made on Apr 21, 2019 6 YEARS AGO!

4. I even ask this question to Thunderstore 753 recently and said "a comment section has been on the TODO list for a while." So addressing this to Thunderstore would be wasting my time, it's nothing personal or emotional. What I care about most is highlighting problems and solutions in a way that gets people thinking and raises awareness, leading to a possible resolution.

[robust lark]

I don't think we should hijack Bobbo's thread with this discussion. Its unfortunate that you can't see how using an AI written proposal that hallucinates a bunch of technically infeasible nonsense doesn't achieve any of your goals

[limpid cosmos]

Whatever makes you happy now :)

[dapper harbor]

lets get bobbo to makes his own thunderstore with all the things we need and we gonna call it bobbostore

[limpid cosmos]

Bobbostore before GTA6 🤔

[umbral herald]

Yeah this happens sometimes

you just have to restart the app

[umbral herald]

I'd agree with robyn on this

plus in my mind it isn't a big problem at all

[wooden whale]

yeah i figured

[umbral herald]

I did actually make a sort of thunderstore clone to practice web development

with comments ✨

it was a while ago though

wow that video looks like garbage

[limpid cosmos]

I'm just throwing an idea that would help everyone, I wasn’t saying my method was the only way. I just shared one possible approach geez
Also, I just find it funny that the whole thunderstore team gets out worked by a solo dev doing it free, its sad. Like thats crazy work for a team thats monetized, not just through their website but their mod manager too lol.

They don't even reply to their github issues (and brush off basic features for 6 years & counting), while you are replying to all of them. Looks like they don't give a damn or care to innovate. Of course I want your view on this, why would any rational person have confidence in the their team.

[limpid cosmos]

If we can make something better, why not make it better? Also, any issue requested big or small to Thunderstore "isn't a big problem to them at all".

[kindred stag]

It’s like saying oh modders do more work than Mojang
There’s a lot that goes on that you don’t understand internally

I don’t mean this in an insulting way

But if you wanna be taken seriously the best route is probably to not ai gen your entire request and suggestion

[bold hornet]

the classic "modders do more work than x" is always funny to see

amount of times i've seen people put down zeekerss work by saying mod makers like wesley put more work into their mod than zeekerss did into their own game is funny

[kindred stag]

ts has much much more to manage than bobbo does
they also do alot of support for issues on there discord

[pastel grove]

sure but also the site gets an awful lot of traffic for very little improvements to the site or payment to the modders

when you compare between ts team and bobbo very different circumstances but makes you think abit more when you compare ts with other services

[kindred stag]

have you checked out the in beta full site visual overhaul?

[limpid cosmos]

Glaze harder plzz and thats a personal problem I don't care. Ego gets in the way of progress.

I live in reality and say how it is. Everything I said holds up and thunderstore needs to be set to a higher standard.

[kindred stag]

??

im not glazing im literally just saying how it works
thunderstore as a platform has sigifigantly more to manage than bobbo would

they have servers the backend etc

and I also mentioned how they do alot of support for issues on there discord

[limpid cosmos]

6 yearsss

[kindred stag]

6 years since...?

[limpid cosmos]

No comments

[pastel grove]

I mean yeah but personally it's been in dev quite abit and isn't too impressive for the sites success from what I have seen

[limpid cosmos]

System

[kindred stag]

??

what do you even mean

[limpid cosmos]

People have been wanting a comment/system for 6 years. And they still haven't done Jack $#&#

[kindred stag]

because they dont want to and have other priorities?

there was a vote to add comments and it lost

[limpid cosmos]

Read everything before commenting

[pastel grove]

Just wanna chime in and say I'd be so against a comment system tbh

[kindred stag]

I did just half the things you say dont make any sense no offense

[limpid cosmos]

Glazee

[kindred stag]

dude

what

[pastel grove]

I want other stuff forsure but I just think a comment system at best would just be full of useless and/or hateful messages

[kindred stag]

anyways im not exactly sure what im "glazing" here

you are making very unreasonble requests and have a fundemental misunderstanding of alot of things

[limpid cosmos]

Nothing new gets implemented

[kindred stag]

thats not true

[pastel grove]

mfw when I agree with the criticisms of the thunderstore but i click the guys profile and he's a kick streamer 😭

i wouldn't waste my time arguing

[kindred stag]

im not gonna sit here and pretend thunderstore is some perfect website that does no wrong

but what your saying is baffingly well uh wrong

[bold hornet]

i want lunch money from thunderstore

[limpid cosmos]

I brought up a comment system in repo general chat and lots of people were on board with ti

[kindred stag]

thunderstore needs to step up there game in some deparments but

[kindred stag]

ok?

[limpid cosmos]

Okkk??

[kindred stag]

what does that have to do with anything

[limpid cosmos]

You didn't read anything from the past convo above and it shows

[kindred stag]

I did though??

what does users wanting comments have to do with thunderstore implimenting comments

or being a good platform or not

[pastel grove]

I mean ideally the site would implement highly wanted features

[kindred stag]

"highly wanted features"

a few people saying they want it in repo general chat

[limpid cosmos]

Logic

[pastel grove]

I don't agree with the example given. You asked what it had to do with that, that's what

[limpid cosmos]

There have been multi request to do it

[kindred stag]

ok?

[pastel grove]

IMO there's many, many things TS should tackle before comments

[kindred stag]

a few dozen people asked zeekers to make a change to lethal company

zeekers doesnt have to make the change

[kindred stag]

yeah and thats what the team seems to think too

[pastel grove]

(this also doesn't mean he shouldn't make the change)

[limpid cosmos]

Yes but they don't add anything new in general. It's stale

[pastel grove]

I agree with this.

[kindred stag]

im aware but im just disagreeing with the idea of users wanting something and it not getting implimented is somehow bad

[limpid cosmos]

I'm going to bed

[kindred stag]

we got the wiki feature a few months ago
we are getting a full website visual overhaul soon

we got the source feature a few months ago

[bold hornet]

wiki feels like its been around for a year

[pastel grove]

I don't think a lack of implementation implies an active descision when they've barely made any changes and additions to the site whatsoever

[bold hornet]

source definitely longer

yeah wiki's been around a year+

just checked my mod with a wiki page

[kindred stag]

i stand corrected then im used to those being new things lol

[bold hornet]

nah thunderstore really just doesnt feel like it's doing anything, i've been hearing more talks of the beta recently so im not too bothered about it rn

[kindred stag]

https://new.thunderstore.io/communities

if you wanna check out the beta its here

there are several new features and a ton of changes

[pastel grove]

the first page of lethal's section has a combined total of 267m downloads

i feel like its reasonable to expect more than just talks about a beta redesign

[kindred stag]

:/

its not talks when you can literally use it and its close to completion

[pastel grove]

this has been true for ages

[kindred stag]

the beta includes new features too

[pastel grove]

and i wanna point this out again, I really don't think this redesign is actually too insanely impressive either

it's far from nothing but it's not like a magic bullet

[kindred stag]

not really they started promoting and showing it off fairly recently

[bold hornet]

i dont mean to be funny but i clicked on lethal company section in the beta website and got a 505 error

refreshing did work lol

[kindred stag]

i didnt but that is funny

[pastel grove]

it's been a thing for quite awhile

[kindred stag]

no the "view beta" thing is quite new

switch to beta*

[pastel grove]

I don't recall where it was posted but if that is the case it's possible i had access to it earlier than you

[kindred stag]

i got access to it march 2nd

[bold hornet]

oh yeah that's been a thing for a while

dont remember when though

[pastel grove]

it's been a thing since at least september

i wanna say it was a thing during the advanced company stuff in late march(?) but i do not have any evidence to back that up and just do not remember clearly

it has been in the works since at least nov 2023

[eternal tulip]

Gale❤️

[kindred stag]

gale :D

[hardy linden]

At least in my experience it is new - showed up earlier this year. I'm guessing it was enabled earlier for those viewing it signed-in

[robust lark]

There was a dev preview site that Batby is probably remembering but its much more recently that it was rolled out to general use, something like February this year.

If you guys want to keep discussing non-Gale things please make a new thread and stop shitting up Bobbo's now, okay?

[umbral herald]

If we can make something better, why not make it better?
I'd say the effort to implement it (not only for thunderstore, but for mod managers as well), added complexity and moderation time outweigh the benefits. Every improvement has a cost

but yeah please move this to somewhere else

[limpid cosmos]

"Without challenges how do we get better? How could we ever discover the POTENTIAL in which we are truly capable"
I'll leave it here.

[short star]

just make a new thread somewhere and people can discuss it

[dreamy walrus]

Hi, I'm on linux mint, and I cannot update my modloader because of a "binary error", according to Gale, to i think 1.5.8 from 1.5.12

[robust lark]

I just tried to update from 1.3.x to 1.5.12 and I got it, too

Failed to update Gale - invalid updater binary format