reforger_questions

[echo spire]

so really? absolutley no one here can help me w steam/linux ?

[echo spire]

Ubuntu works just fine for most I do and I know others play on Linux, just looking for some constructive help

[fading vortex]

I’ve always meant to try Linux but I have just never quite got around to it.

[tepid torrent]

a main screen like this would be fantastic, i think that the animated menu from OFP is such a good memory and it would be awesome if reforger even had a similar one with a more cinematic feel with the ingame assets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9LgZrfP7Ms

[foggy ridge]

I think you could even move that laptop

[foggy ridge]

it has bronze rating on protondb https://www.protondb.com/app/1874880

basically not playable on lunix (though tbh a lot of the time not on windows as well)

[fossil osprey]

For me, Reforger works on Arch without any other aditional settings (Steam + Proton), in any case, it makes no sense to play under Linux because there are graphic glitches (especially problems with lighting, AA..) and much worse performance, as with all non-native applications.

Advice to play it on Windows is constructive.. 🙂

[foggy ridge]

bronze in itself is not bad but compared to native platform still infinitely worse

[fossil osprey]

This is such a problem with (SteamDB) ProtonDB that someone giving it a "recommended" rating does not mean that they actually play the game.

[foggy ridge]

you can see on the protondb page I linked which OS and how many linux hours the person has in the game

[fossil osprey]

If their Steam profile is public. Anyway, the record for Reforger is 12 hours 🙂

[foggy ridge]

it's listed on the actual page I linked with the ratings

specs, distro and proton version

[fossil osprey]

If their Steam profile is public.

[foggy ridge]

there's enough data on that page to conclude that the game doesn't play well on proton which is all I mean

also what do you mean by steamdb? does steamdb have a page like this also?

[fossil osprey]

Oh mistake, ProtonDB

[wind lantern]

Where exactly is the rearming tab?

[shut cosmos]

in GM mode(entity browser)

[wind lantern]

Kk I'll check thank you

[brisk lark]

Wrong Arma game. This channel is about Reforger 🙂

[tulip knot]

Can anyone explain how to mount a heavy machine gun carried in your backpack?

[hasty idol]

how to turn on the tactical light underneath a pistol or rifle?

[stray blade]

Ussually via inspection

[tepid torrent]

why doesn't the 9mm in reforger blow the lung out of the body?

[foggy ridge]

it is what it is

[hazy relic]

Any Word on what they are doing to deal with trolls and what not

[carmine bison]

Where do i post screenshots and such of photos in general of arma reforger and not for mods, just like showcasing some pics?

Nvm disregard this question

[lucid tulip]

Yeah that and no ar14 for us armed forces

Perhaps in a4?

[hasty idol]

what key?

[stray blade]

Ctrl+R by default on windows

[atomic wing]

how do I fly the helis after the most recent update ?

[slow pagoda]

some heli mods could be broken

or they should come with instructions

[atomic wing]

the apache doesn’t work neither does the chinook 😦

[slow pagoda]

could be they just simply dont work at the moment

[atomic wing]

oh ok

[slow pagoda]

you can check if they got threads in #1049297536617291827 and if there is any recent information

Mod functioning can never be fully guaranteed though

[gleaming holly]

on console it is Rb+Y to start, then L-stick for engine power up/down and R-stick to control direction

[atomic wing]

Oh ok s

[atomic wing]

Can I use my throttle and joystick for the a-10 in arma reforger ?

[slow pagoda]

if you can bind whatever the keys to control it are to those yes

but my guess is no

since its not natively supported plane

but a mod

[atomic wing]

oh ok 👍

Thank u @slow pagoda

[slow pagoda]

you can ask on its thread in #1049297536617291827

[atomic wing]

Ok thank u

[tepid torrent]

"detector" animations in "demining" folder 🤔

[supple wigeon]

In the dev report after the mine update they said they were going to make metal detectors and expand the explosive gameplay https://reforger.armaplatform.com/news/dev-report-17

[tepid torrent]

wow i didnt even see this! thx for link by the way 👍

[atomic wing]

Will there be a ac-130 ?

[quaint copper]

No

[half locust]

there will be no planes in vanilla reforger

[atomic wing]

No i mean like just a normal mod will there be one or no

[quaint copper]

Ask in the mod channels

[atomic wing]

ok 👍

[quaint copper]

The admins here are incredibly short tempered and petty, best to keep things where they belong to avoid run ins

[atomic wing]

Alr mate thx

[gloomy forge]

Does it mean their will be no work done for plane mechanic and physics? Could be a bad things for mods

[half locust]

it is impossible predict the future in that sense...no one knows what someone might wanna do with their free time...

[half locust]

#discord_server

[atomic wing]

ok

[half locust]

fixed winged (planes) are outside the scope of reforger (but not for enfusion engine <future arma titles>)

[gleaming holly]

fixed wing physics was done for Reforger by Redline guys but IIRC BI said they will not do any native planes or tanks

[gloomy forge]

Yeah I think so, I understood that mods for reforger should be compatible with next Arma titles, that where my question came, it would be nice if in reforger there is an early version of fixed wing physics to help modders making mods that could be added to future Arma titles

[gloomy forge]

The issue using a physics by mod is future plane mods won't be compatible with future titles

[half locust]

direct plug and play compatibility is very very unlikely....but more along the lines of A2 to A3 rather than A3 to reforger....

[gloomy forge]

Okay see

[half locust]

As said, native tracked vehicles and fixed winged vehicles are not within the scope of reforger.
Would it be nice to have somewhat in advance? Yes, surely. Will it happen? Unlikely. Would it be of real use going forwards? Unlikely...

[gloomy forge]

Okay see

[ancient rapids]

If you really want planes, use mods, an A10 was just released.

[gloomy forge]

I'll see

[clear sparrow]

Will thermal scopes ever be a thing, for a mod not a in game scope lol.

[half locust]

not possible without an additional layer for assets for the thermal layer (be it texture map like in a3 or similar)

[clear sparrow]

Ah ok

[buoyant osprey]

Hey how do I download the mods onto a nitrado server I’m confused

[tidal pendant]

How do I get bombs on a10

[sand verge]

Don't crosspost

[raw dagger]

Is there a way I could post a video of a teammate spawn killing with grenades. In official conflict.

[tidal pendant]

How do you get bombs on the a10

[tidal pendant]

That’s sad man it’s bad it happens but for you to care that much you want to report it is giving them the reaction they crave ignore them and they will leave

[tepid torrent]

it is a very annoying flaw in the system that they use, hopefully it is fixed soon, right now the only fix is to make them angry and shoot you until they are fixed, tbh most of them are easy to emotionaly manipulate which is good 😆

[ornate vessel]

on coflict, what does the radio freq next to the bases mean?

[magic pebble]

It's a suggestion so friendly team members attacking the same base, can communicate with each other.

[ornate vessel]

ah ok thank you

[flint dragon]

Hello, where can I promote my server? I have a conflict server I would like to promote to everyone but I'm not sure where can I do this on discord?

[half locust]

it’s actually written in #rules

[languid lodge]

🤔#reforger_conflict message

[fiery scaffold]

Can not find a capture and hold multiplayerserver at all. Mod activated and only that one, but no server hosting it. I can host local server but we can't host dedicated server with same mod... Whats wrong?

[civic terrace]

Also, can we run this dedicated? From the bat?

[topaz whale]

No one plays it anymore sadly

[shut cosmos]

You can host a dedicated server with capture and hold, I just tried it and it works fine.

[mint girder]

Hey everyone. So I've been hosting my arma server on Nitrado forever, I've never tried looking for another server host. Is there a better functioning server host by chance? or are they all kinda the same? If anyone could give me some insight to this I would appreciate it

[gleaming holly]

I moved from Nitrado to GTX and it was night and day difference. You get better specs for the same price, can pick and choose where your money goes (slots, RAM, CPU, etc) and the 2 times ive had to contact their support I got a response in under 30 minutes and the problem fixed in an hour

[mint girder]

damn thats pretty good. I will try that, thank you

[spark pilot]

Anyone know how to bind Q and E (single press) to Lean Toggle? It seems to be stuck on assinging the default of a double press. I've unbound Q and E from Lean Left / Right.

[tepid torrent]

i thought they were repeaters that extended range of the one frequency 🤔 so small bases can amplify a signal a bit more and they can reach even further when an antenna is built, or at least that would make sense

[raw dagger]

Is there a map where it shows all main operations bases on official

[barren solstice]

is it GTXGaming?

[gleaming holly]

Yes

[royal basin]

You can do it trough the advanced keybind function. When you are in the advanced keybind menu you have a couple of dropdown folders, just press your allready assigned keybind in there or asign a new one, then press the left dropdown folder and select none. That will make it single press👍

It gives you the choice between Hold, double and none

[clear sparrow]

Dude I just thought a CRAM would be so freaking cool

Is that a mod or a planned mod at all?

[maiden linden]

How to slow walk on key and mouse?

[molten cobalt]

What’s the discord to the 2nd severs?

[quaint copper]

Play the tutorial

[vestal sinew]

hold control and scroll if i recall properly

walking is hold alt, stance is hold ctrl

[quaint copper]

Hold Alt is Free Look
Walking is mousewheel up or down
Stance is CTRL + Mouse Wheel up or down

[vestal sinew]

thanks for correcting me, too many keybinds

[cerulean token]

I just bind walk to hold CTRL, it's unbound by default

[quaint copper]

Not even

If you think this is alot, never play Arma 3

[vestal sinew]

i will never go thru all the arma 3 keybinds

plus all the mods ive been forced to download to play

[gloomy locust]

Does anyone’s game master take like 10 mins to load? Because mines does and it’s very annoying

[clear sparrow]

Is there a mod for ranks

[terse cloak]

Wdym?

[fallow pier]

So I've been messing with the AI on game master on my server but I can't seem to get the AI to drive any vehicles. Is that possible just now or is that broken just curious ?

[magic pebble]

Not possible.

[fallow pier]

Aww all good just making sure I wasn't doing something wrong lol

[random cape]

Yeah, no ETA for when the AI will be able to drive

[strange brook]

Any news on an main branch update so I can play with mods again...?

[dry hill]

If i buy reforger can I make singleplayer scenarios like I do in arma 3?

[magic pebble]

No.

[quaint copper]

Only on PC

[magic pebble]

Should add it takes 10 times the effort and you can only do 10% of what you can do in arma 3.

[random cape]

And this is because mission making can only be done through the Arma Reforger Tools' World Editor, which doubles as the replacement for Terrain Builder (that is, map making)

[chilly briar]

How can you save loadouts in solo game master sessions? I know how to do it but for some reason it keeps resetting every time I load back into the session. It says my loadout saved but it always resets when I leave game even though I'm not restarting the session

[foggy ridge]

you may need a mod to make it persistent, but that mod won't work on xbox

[shut pumice]

but that mod won't work on xbox
why not?

[foggy ridge]

someone with more experience modding than me told me that fileio operations against profile folders don't work on xbox

[shut pumice]

that makes sense since Xbox is quite strict with storage usage but with SessionStorage it is possible since that is specifically made for save purposes and limits are enforced with it from c++ so that it can be used on Xbox.
It is true that it might bot be as versatile as fileoi but with it you can actually write save and loading which would work even on Xboxes.

[foggy ridge]

o ok interesting

[fresh pike]

I have a really good question, why does every update to the base game have tbe audacity to proceed to pull out a wrench and shatter the modding communities kneecaps?

[foggy ridge]

early access games change more than "released" games, and all modders knew what they signed up for when they started modding

[half locust]

If reforger would be a final release game on a final working engine, it would be a problem. But reforger isn’t either. So it is 100% expected and understandable

[terse cloak]

You have to understand that mods dont usually work after an update on other games like squad, Sometimes updates just change some things inside of the code and that ruins the vehicle.

[granite sandal]

So how do I get my server through Streamline Servers back online after this Update?

[foggy ridge]

ask Streamline Servers

[granite sandal]

Do you think all mods will need to be removed?

[foggy ridge]

only the ones that dont work

[granite sandal]

How can I figure that out?

[foggy ridge]

try starting the server

[granite sandal]

Is that the only way?

[foggy ridge]

you will see errors in the logs, figure out which mod they are coming from and disable those mods

or remove all of them and add them one by one

[granite sandal]

Yeah, so the server shows without mods, but it's still not up to date, so I'm trying to steam update again now.

[foggy ridge]

your server provider has a support team, ask them

[granite sandal]

Bacon I know they do, I'm just asking here because this is the channel for support, you seem a little frustrated in your responses, everything okay?

[foggy ridge]

sorry if I sound this way, but this channel is not for support with third party services

[granite sandal]

Well it's still with the game.

[foggy ridge]

absolutely, though updating your server at your server provider is exclusive to that server provider

[half locust]

it has nothing to do with this channel. BI has nothing to do with your own (server) service provider

[granite sandal]

"Hello everyone and welcome to Reforger!
We know you have lots of questions so feel free to send them below.

Please keep to questions in #reforger_questions only and our team will select questions to respond.
If you wish to discuss the answers or hold general conversation, please see #reforger_discussion to converse. Thank you!"

Written in the Pinned Messages From Niller

[granite sandal]

My question was about Arma Reforger, making it suitable.

[half locust]

you don't seem to be able to follow what i wrote to you....

[granite sandal]

Oh I followed it, but looked at the Pinned messages which contradicts what you said.

[half locust]

You have asked and you have been answered - you should contact your service provider for support in regards to the server (game doesn't matter much) they have provided for you. You have a question in regards to a service provided by a 3rd party, which is something BI staff, or anyone else here cannot figure out for you.

[signal spruce]

As PuFu has said, this matter is not related to Reforger itself or questions about its features. It is more troubleshooting for your server or things to be directed to your provider. This wouldn’t be the proper place to ask about it.

[south smelt]

Do the trail markers that got added in the recent update have a beginning and end to them? If so, does anyone know where they are?

[cerulean token]

You can find hiking maps in most towns, like the montignac square. That shows you the different colors of trails and where they begin/intersect/end

[clear sparrow]

Did fire get a enhancement or something because the fire looks way better rn and all the modded vehicles that fire couldn’t be visible with are now fully visible with the fire effect

Which is a good thing lol but I didn’t see anything with fire in the patch notes

[vestal sinew]

can anyone see the soviet supply truck in GM? I have the canopy transport but not the supply truck

[magic pebble]

yeah, fire is now larger and looks prettier.

[magic pebble]

You can't spawn it as GM.

[vestal sinew]

strange, never noticed

[clear sparrow]

Cool the fire looks awesome now

BRB gonna go make a cooler pfp now 😂

[alpine raft]

Is anyone else having any issues with dead everon on their server? Can’t get it to load on ours to save my life

[gleaming holly]

several mods were broken by the update, i would ask the creator of the mod in #enf_mods_feedback

[final lake]

Anyone else having “content verification” endless loading screen issues

[vestal sinew]

anyone know if a bug report has been made on the US grenadier vest being lifted when also wearing a flak vest?

im not sure where to check

[chilly briar]

Since we're on version 0.9.97, how long do you think it'll be before 1.0?

I'm expecting at least one more update before the end of the year which will bring stable to 0.9.98

I never doubted them

I always thought it was impossible for Arma to run on consoles but they proved me wrong

[terse cloak]

its not gonna go to .98 but probably .10x

And its gonna take time until next update for stable, last time there was a update on stable was 10th of august, so probably next month, or maybe small patches in 2 weeks

[half locust]

pinned messages in #reforger_troubleshooting

[half locust]

at some point version number was suppose to show stable release. It is not 100% necesary. I would expect version 1.0 not to be a final product

[vestal sinew]

thanks 👍

[random cape]

Yeah, it looked odd to people for the LAV-25 to be end of last year's roadmap... mortars I'm not so sure

[half locust]

Reforger is hardly a full arma experience, but rather a lite version aimed at multiplayer. Most people who have been around this franchise for a while avoid calling it arma reforger and named it reforger for this very reason. Also consoles these days are just lower end PCs with some additional limitations to memory and storage management (and network as well)

[topaz whale]

Arma/ofp ran on a console in 2005... it even had a mission editor

[magic pebble]

They can always go 0.9.981 then 0.9.982 ... until the game is ready to go 1.0

[whole fossil]

Greatest game ever made

[chilly briar]

Im having an issue with TF mattock weapons. They released an update but for some reason I keep getting download failed and it won't let me delete, or enable. What can I do to fix this?

[fossil osprey]

What "render target format" in graphical settings does?

[stray blade]

just FYI they can also go 0.10.11.99, 0.11.99.51 etc and still not hit 1.0. The version number is not mathematical, each number is arbitrary.
R.MA.MI.BB
R. -> Indicating release
MA. ->Major version, incremented manually when developers feel like something major was added
MI. ->Minor version, incremented manually when developers feel like something minor was added, fixes etc, reset to 0 when major version changes
BB -> Build version, usually automatic, indicating how many times game was built, reset to 0 when minor version changes

So in our example 0.9.9.97 represent, Not full release, 9th major update, 9th minor update of this major update, there were 97 builds within this minor update

(Build version could also reset only on major change, im not 100% sure)

[cerulean token]

Will there be more colors of butterflies added ?

[tepid torrent]

i would like to know that as well, it doesnt seem to have any visible changes?

[sand verge]

There used to be a CIA pack on the workshop does anyone know what happened to that

[hard zinc]

Would love to see a map port from another BI title. Highly unlikely but not impossible.

[digital crane]

did the river water get a downgrade again?

[cerulean token]

How so ?

[digital crane]

idk i feel like i remember it being less green, maybe im tripping but i remember seeing some other people in here talking about it a long time ago when it got changed.

[woven kindle]

how can i equip my flashlight on my person?

[cerulean token]

Yeah they made them greener with this enviornment update. I think it's supposed to be algae

[cerulean token]

You need to have it in your harness, or alternatively in your shirt if you have no harness. This should visually equip it on there. On PC you can then hold L to toggle it while on your chest

[woven kindle]

can i not have a chest rig and body armor on (lifchik)?

cause i put it there and when i hold l, it doesnt light up.

nvm

i got it. thank you!!

[fossil osprey]

Rather, there is something weird with lighting and material. The color of the river changes with the weather and time from relatively ok to radioactive sewage from Chernobyl. The ocean and rivers looked better before environment update, color was more natural.

[deft furnace]

Anyone know if there's a way to have my FPS and stuff be displayed on my screen?

[crystal knoll]

I use Nvidia performance displays to see my FPS etc, I’m not sure if Reforger has any built in FPS display features

[magic pebble]

Steam overlay works too.

[gleaming holly]

did the 3MB/s workshop download speed get uncapped? Im hitting 5-10MB/s since the update which is higher than ive seen before

[sand verge]

Does anyone know what happened to the thingy in experimental that allowed you to see ur stats like how many bullets you shot etc

[tepid torrent]

you mean the debriefing? i thought we still had that?

[sand verge]

Yea that but there was one on the menu or whatever but it’s gone now

It showed how many steps you have done over all sevs you played etc etc

[tepid torrent]

i didnt even know it had that in experimental 😆 , sounds like a cool feature though, i can imagine a global leaderboard now for distance walked

[sand verge]

It was such a cool thing coz it showed you how many war crimes you do, bullets shot across all sevs, deaths, distance travelled in vehicles, and in the passenger seat, how many kills you got, ur level

It was such a big and cool asf thing

[tepid torrent]

no way i missed the warcrime-o-meter! hopefully it is put back in!

[sand verge]

Fr it was such a cool thing to have

[foggy ridge]

id rather not see that stat about me

[sand verge]

Yea you commit the most war crimes bacon stealing the helis flares

[foggy ridge]

[ancient rapids]

I've seen it at the end of a conflict match

[trim solstice]

Is there any way I can host a listen server with launch parameters? I would like a batch file I can just run that will launch the game and host a server with preset setting. This way I can load a saved conflict game. I can't use dedicated server because I don't have NAT loopback.

[vivid tundra]

Did BI talk to the owners of the elan life servers about paying for cosmetics?

[elfin palm]

How do I stop rubberbanding

[gleaming holly]

apparently this has happened before and one of the elan guys got permabanned from all BI games for it
I stand corrected

[half locust]

send me a dm with details

[sand verge]

What that’s crazy

[cerulean token]

Do they still do that ? I thought they switched to donator rewards

[magic pebble]

Officers, it is not a payment for cosmetic, it is a donation prize.

[ancient rapids]

Donation for something in return is not a donation but a purchase

[sand verge]

nah you see after the donation me and the donator became friends, and I just wanted to give him an early birthday present /s

[chilly briar]

Is anyone making a jungle map in enfusion?

[clear sparrow]

Does anyone know a good usmc uniform mod? I know RHS has good ones but there’s so much in that mod.

[tranquil jasper]

Does anybody know when the air support update is releasing? I've heard that it's either end of this month or october.

[half locust]

there is no public info about upcoming releases

[tranquil jasper]

Oh ok

[ancient rapids]

Curious where you heard that?

[tranquil jasper]

Guys making random guesses

But hey I'll take any info I want a fuckin helicopter in the base game

[snow sparrow]

@ancient rapids I DMed you about an issue I’m having it wouldn’t let me post a pic here so I sent it to you, it’s giving an error when trying to join my server

[ancient rapids]

Yeah those are some wild guesses! Pretty sure another minor update will come before another major update, it's been less than a week since the last major update. Have some patience! People asking "when next update" literally the day after a major update, that's hilarious!

[slow pagoda]

youll want to verify your account here: #✔role-selection

[ancient rapids]

Yeah no idea what would cause a jip error, probably many things. Server logs would be better to post.

[snow sparrow]

I’m unsure how to check server logs on Nitrado I’m pretty new at this, so learning as I go.

[ancient rapids]

I have no idea where they keep your server logs, maybe someone else who uses them knows.

[snow sparrow]

I also have a gtx server and they are so much easier to troubleshoot, Nitrado is a little behind in that department

[ancient rapids]

I believe it, I don't think I've ever heard anything good about nitrado.

Actually I heard they're really good at being very slow to respond to support tickets... 💩🤣

[clear sparrow]

Doesn’t seem like a good thing

[lucid tulip]

is there any tutorial on how to use a10 mod?i have project redline core enabled but i cant get into the cockpit

[feral hinge]

Look on the left side of the plane and towards the bottom of the cockpit

[mossy lava]

You can not buy cosmetics or other things from us. After we had contact with Bohemia, our donation system was removed (by the way, this was arround December 2022).

[mossy lava]

This is also not true. We exchanged messages with Bohemia employees and did what we were told. None of us is banned

[lucid tulip]

what the control scheme? wasd seems to move the flight stick around . but i cant figure out what moves the throttle forward to actually get it rolling

[vestal sinew]

look on the mod page for controls, it has both keyboard and xbox i believe

[lucid tulip]

got it i was linked to there

[vestal sinew]

👍

[tranquil jasper]

So I keep hearing this beeping every couple of minutes right (my own GM arland server)

First few times it scared the absolute shit outta me

Now it's just fucking annoying

anyone know what it might be and how I can stop it?

[gleaming holly]

i noticed that as well, no clue what it is

[clear sparrow]

It’s me I’m in your walls.

[tranquil jasper]

2 minutes 0 seconds and 16 milliseconds between each beep

It's just fucking annoying now

[gleaming holly]

id submit a ticket to BI on their website about it. include a video if you can
https://feedback.bistudio.com/w/fthowto/

[tranquil jasper]

I'm pretty sure there's less time between each beep each time

[tranquil jasper]

I tried to record a video but it didn't capture the beep

[gleaming holly]

now thats really weird, are you on xbox?

[tranquil jasper]

Yea

I've made sure it's not me going insane

[gleaming holly]

you cant record in game chat/voices on xbox so it may be that the beep is considered in game chat for some reason

[tranquil jasper]

Yea

Maybe

[gleaming holly]

time to commit sudoku i guess

[tranquil jasper]

Nah I hate that game

[gleaming holly]

lmao

[digital crane]

rhs radio maybe

[tranquil jasper]

I'm not carrying one on my character but I do have it enabled

[digital crane]

if you’re near an rhs arsenal box it beeps i believe

[tranquil jasper]

Huh. Strange

[dim blade]

Does anyone know if the Laptop on Reforgr work? Im not sure what commanded or extra stuff I need to get it to work

[terse cloak]

depends on the specs

[sand verge]

Without a dedicated gpu I think it will be painful -- I have a laptop and tried reforger, and had to have very low resolution

[dim blade]

I’m talking about the laptop mod in game

[wicked python]

Is anyone making a monster mod or anything like that lik Wendigos or alien monsters or anything like that?

[gleaming holly]

does "admins": [] work in 0.9.9.97? it should allowed listed players to login as admin with "#login", omitting the password

[clear sparrow]

Does altering mod versions make any difference in server performances?

[gleaming holly]

not in and of itself. if version 1.0 works perfectly but version 1.2 has a ton of bugs or clearly causes issues then yeah changing the version can help

[clear sparrow]

Ahh ok thanks

[stray blade]

Afaik not yet. Mods can utilise that array tho.

[half locust]

this channel is for questions in regards to vanilla reforger, not mods for reforger. Please keep to it..:

[foggy ridge]

so, how is progress on the interior lighting? are we ever going to see removal of the artificial darkness volumes inside buildings? maybe when light portals are in?

[snow sparrow]

Hey does anyone know how to get ahold of a mod creator that goes by the name of edgewise on the workshop? He’s the creator of the CNCKUNAR CONFLICT I’d like to give some feedback to some issues I’m running into

[eager sandal]

#enf_mods_feedback

[snow sparrow]

maybe one of y’all can help or give some insight when I load into CNCKUNAR CONFLICT mod scenario some of my mods do not show up in the arsenal box and I think it’s bc mod creator has set the factions to USMC and FIA(Taliban mod) well the arsenal box says save loadout for “US ARMY items only” so when I loaded in with my previous save loadout (US Army items) it said it couldn’t save loadout bc it was the wrong faction etc.

[snow sparrow]

Thanks man

[green pike]

Hi, is it me or the Heli do not work anymore ? ( cannot turn on the engine of both mh-60 and ah-64) ?
Thx

[gleaming holly]

start them like a car, rb+y for xbox

[spiral minnow]

Does Reforger not auto load/enable the mods required prior to joining a server?

Or do I really have to have 90+ mods enabled at all times

[quaint copper]

If you download mods, itll load them automatically
Upon joining a server, itll unload all the mods the game doesnt need

So if you have 90 mods installed, and the server only needs 20, then itll unload 70 of them

[spiral minnow]

Then something is not right, I just tested that and it did not unload any mods.

I have all enabled that totals 87. I joined a server that only requires 26. Ran around, left. Still 87 mods enabled.

unless it re-enables them all after leaving; which is like why?

@quaint copper

Also noticed my mod presets never save

[quaint copper]

^

Were you able to join the server? Were you able to join another server afterwards? If both of the asnwers are yes, I dont see a problem

[spiral minnow]

I don't want 90 mods enabled at all times, that's my problem.

[quaint copper]

Then start unloading some

And turn off Auto Enable Downloaded Mods

[spiral minnow]

I shouldn't have to manually go in and unenable mods I don't need each time I change servers. I should be able to have 0 enabled, join a server it loads the required ones, when I leave it should un-enable them unless I'm using a mod preset. Is that really too much to ask?

It's literally ass backwards 😂

[quaint copper]

You can literally press Unload All
And disable auto downloaded mods

[spiral minnow]

When I join a server though, it does not load the mods..

[quaint copper]

It should

[spiral minnow]

It does not

I get kicked to menu each time; "mods do not match servers"

[quaint copper]

You spent 30 bucks on a pre alpha "Early Access"
Best you can do is post feedback on the forums and wait 4 - 6 business months for it to get fixed

[spiral minnow]

Which is another way of saying, legal scam

[quaint copper]

Exactly

[sand verge]

I'm starting to just see it as double paying for an A4

Since it's all the same "historical context, assets, etc"

[magic pebble]

historical context?

[topaz whale]

The environment, historical context, and all of the assets, as well as our modding tools and features, will all be redeployed for the next Arma instalment, alongside a slew of extra content. Arma 4 however, will release as an independent title and will build on all the lessons learned from Arma Reforger.

From: https://reforger.armaplatform.com/faq (Connection to Arma 4 section)

Don't think I realized installment can be written with one L before. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[magic pebble]

But what does it mean?

[sand verge]

@sand verge I can disable all my mods under "Mod Manager" tab. If I join a server, and have the prerequisite mods for that server, it will let me join. I believe the enabling is for when you want to "Locally Host" a server or use GM. But for dedicated servers you don't need them enabled.

[magic pebble]

Does this mean a4 will be cold war?

[sand verge]

I think that is a closely guarded secret at this point.

[spiral minnow]

I'm assuming it means, there will be another arma title before 4

but 4 will not be using the same context, just the things they learned while developing them

[sand verge]

mmmm no I think the road map is AR then A4.

It's dotted line ....
https://reforger.armaplatform.com/game

[spiral minnow]

Hm, either I don't understand english or that paragraph is very poorly worded then

[topaz nexus]

Alot of stuff still existed in the '80s, it can be futuristic and the testing stuff can be in the 1980s, they had NODs, Thermals, etc back then. Just fewer of them

So basically we have no clue whatsoever when 4 will be set

If the LAV includes thermals - and it ought to considering it had that even on base models, and NODs pop up after launch considering they said there will be post-launch development, it'll likely be set in the modern day or near future

[supple wigeon]

Arma 4 is actually a sequel to Arma 3 but its got Cold War flashbacks for funsies

[topaz nexus]

Yer just walking around in Crimea and suddenly have a ptsd flashback to sitting around doing nothing for years in west germany

[supple wigeon]

The flashbacks are actually meta because the flashbacks take place during the Reforger exercises and use the Reforger assets.

[topaz whale]

The title of the section is "Connection to Arma 4" so it would make sense if they are saying that assets and historical context will be the same for Arma 4.... so A4 Cold War... or maybe slightly post-Cold War at best. But we'll see

[topaz nexus]

Well guess I was wrong, it said "all of the assets" which I presume they would count gear and vehicles and all as assets

[chilly briar]

What are some of the best modded maps?

[topaz nexus]

"The early access version might lack some features and have a limited amount of assets (such as no tracked vehicles). These features will be continuously added throughout the early access period via content updates"

👀

[tepid torrent]

maybe hinting at tracked vehicles after 1.0 but who knows 🤷‍♂️ i honesty doubt it

[chilly briar]

They confirmed that there won't be any tracked vehicles in Reforger. Just APCs @tepid torrent

[tepid torrent]

yes i am more thinking what could potentially come to reforger after 1.0, but there is no point speculating bc that is a long way off

[chilly briar]

I personally think 1.0 will arrive in either Q1 or 2 next year.

Most likely Q2

It all depends on where the next update brings us

[tepid torrent]

i think this would be a realistic timeframe to get the promised features done, things will roll a lot quicker now i think because of the amazing fixes bi has done on the foundation of the game, more time for extra content and game mechanic testing

[supple wigeon]

In that interview it said

GameStar: There will be no tanks for reforger, but you have indicated helicopters. What about other vehicle classes?

Ján Dušek: "Apart from the helicopters, we currently have no plans for major expansions in the vehicle classes of Arma Reforger."

This still means we might see something like a M113

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/der-lange-weg-zu-arma-4-wie-geht-es-jetzt-mit-reforger-weiter,3381140.html

[magic pebble]

All of these are old though. I don't think any of it is still relevant to the current development.

[chilly briar]

I'm not betting on it personally. I still believe they'll finish all of the roadmap content since that's the foundation of which they'll build Arma 4 off of. Once the roadmap content is fully released, there will likely be a few bug fixes here and there, but they'll likely focus on rolling out the alpha phase for Arma 4

I think Arma 4 will have tracked vehicles, boats, planes, and more optics

[terse cloak]

No poop sherlock

Arma 4 will have every category that a3 did, maybe not submarine tho

[spiral minnow]

But cold war with no submarines is a sin

Don't worry though, we live in the age of gaming where million dollar companies let their communities finish/fix their games for free 😁

[sand verge]

Yeah, they make the water look so nice only to neglect it, that's not what I hope

[civic abyss]

Is there anyway to connect your xbox account to your pc arma account?

[terse cloak]

Nou

[copper hawk]

Is there a reason that my server's Conflict file isn't saving?

[ancient rapids]

are you using the startup parameter -loadSaveFile?

[copper hawk]

not to sound dumb here but uh, probably not

[sand verge]

Will. Ŕeforger be on PlayStation?

[quaint copper]

Probably, yeah

[tepid mauve]

Can I lower my AI accuracy rate?

[stray blade]

You could in workbench

[quaint copper]

You can with CRX Enfusion AI mod

[tepid mauve]

oh really?

Thanks for the recommendation

[pallid wigeon]

Yeah also someone showed that there are Vietnam era textures for helmets in the workbench so my bet is on Vietnam. And Devs also used Tanoa map for testing and optimising
the engine so yeah...

[quaint cargo]

Dumb question. I’m getting T-Mobile internet and I see there’s some games it has issues with in regards to server hosting. Am I able to play Arma on this new internet service?
Sorry I’m advance if I’m in the wrong channel

[ancient rapids]

pretty sure thats a cell phone provider, might not be best for hosting a server.

[foggy ridge]

depending on the country/area they have wired as well, copper and fiber

[foggy ridge]

what type of internets connection is it? any mention of the words "fiber", "5g"?

[quaint cargo]

5g unlimited. Nearest tower is about 4 miles East of me

[foggy ridge]

you should be able to play, but servers that were previously low ping are now going to be high ping

[quaint cargo]

The only other available service from is what i currently have 3mbs up and .5 down :/

[fossil osprey]

T-Mobile and others provide trial packages for a down payment.

With the whole device

[quaint cargo]

With my current 3mbs upload and .5 download anytime I get near more than 4 ppl my ping shoots to 400-500. I can’t hear anyone talk and then 30 seconds later I lag out. It’s happening for the past 3 weeks game has become unplayable. It’s the only reason I’m getting new internet and it’s the only alternative I can find in my area

[chilly briar]

What do you think the next update will bring? AI commanding/driving, mortars or helicopters?

I'm thinking the next update will be the AI one

[quaint copper]

Ive seen half finished stuff for nearly all of it in the files, including test worlds they forgot to remove when publishing the update

Id say that AI Control, building Destruction, and wishful thinking, maybe even an NSV, are soon to come

As well as Demining tools and a destructible Power Grid

[chilly briar]

The destructible power grid feature sounds fucking cool

That could really make for some interesting scenarios

[quaint copper]

Its meant to tie into the Flare and Lighting systems coming to the game, where you can shut off an entire cities power grid and force them into darkness when attacking a town/Base in conflict/Game Master

[cerulean token]

That'd be sick ngl. Send out a small squad to wait at the substation and when the time comes, radio it in, and lights out.

[quaint copper]

Its been on the roadmap for awhile

[cerulean token]

Yeah of course, but the scenario sounds pretty epic

[tepid mauve]

Can i increase the HP or bulletproof of the player character?

They dead so easily

[lucid tulip]

its already dark enough even with the lights on in town. i want more lights not less 😂. hastag flares and mortars can't come soon enough

[raw dagger]

How do people change there squad names on official on xbox?

[eager sandal]

Why clouds eats up too much FPS? do they have complex geometry or something?

[tepid torrent]

yes or the team could spam the power on/off and give the enemy an epileptic seizure!

[tepid torrent]

volumetric

[spark pilot]

@thorn oak Thanks for the great Dynamic Operations - Everon. Loadout saving doesn't seem to work plus I use weapon mods anyway which might not be able to save. Therefore can arsenals be added to the spawn points that are close to the objectives?

[chilly briar]

Can you load up a co op session with mods?

[ancient rapids]

Yes

[chilly briar]

@ancient rapids can you invite players to a session

[ancient rapids]

Depends on your router/network settings/capabilities

[quaint cargo]

@ancient rapids @foggy ridge
Srry to ping, got the new internet today and just wanted to thank both of u for your responses. Your both always very kind and helpful 🙂

P.S. Srry for wrong channel PuFu in advance 🫶

[half locust]

all good, i’m not absurd

[eager sandal]

A little bit more information would be nice. I am not exactly a techie... Just trying to understand.

[tepid torrent]

volumetic means a volume and you can fly through them like arma 3's clouds, only downside is that it usually has a performance hit based on the resolution and density of the clouds

[eager sandal]

I see... its like in that puff of clouds, there are tiny clouds in there, that need to be rendered also....

I just run at lowest setting anyway. If I am playing solo, I make sure to play in sunny weather. No clouds. Free FPS boost

[tepid torrent]

yes, but for how the game looks it has pretty good performance

[eager sandal]

Nah... for my old 5700XT, going High on Environment setting is too expensive for little graphical bling. I'd rather have a High setting on Grass. But that too eats too much fps, so I set that on Low too. DCS clouds is much better looking. But I shudder how much fps it will eat up. But then again, DCS ground is not the best either, since most of the time player will be on the air anyway

[lucid tulip]

dcs ground is only really taxing for me on the newer maps high on vegetation like Normandy v2.0, but even then i still get plus 60 fps the performance of dcs was substanially boosted across the board for the community since multithreading update

[long cradle]

Have to ask, what happened to the Humvee brush guards in reforger

[tepid torrent]

i dont remeber them having any? maybe they add more vehicle modularity in future with added functionality like turrets, paint job, snorkels, radio equipment, etc

[long cradle]

They did at the start, and even in the preview images before placing them in GM they still have brush guards

[tepid torrent]

ok ima have a look

[tepid torrent]

good spot they did originally have them, i have no idea why they removed them tbh?

[eager sandal]

So I just saw a video about grass in Ghost of Tsushima. How they render each individual blades of grass. Is Arma Reforger using same technique? Or is it too expensive for the scale of such as Arma?

[tepid torrent]

arma uses grass cards, way more performant and they still look good

[eager sandal]

I see... Roger that.

[hearty geyser]

Are there any units posted in this server that are Arma Reforger based? Or is it all servers that just advertise it via server name?

[brittle agate]

There are units in #communities_arma3 / #communities_xbox

[hearty geyser]

They don't specify, tis why I'm asking. But thank you.

[clear sparrow]

Does anyone know the mods that have the beards and stuff

[round tide]

Pip errors?

[chilly briar]

How quickly do you think we'll see AI commands and the ability for them to drive vehicles?

I really hope this comes around December

[half locust]

there is no real information so everything (and possible answers) is supposition, which is not really the scope of this channel…

[foggy ridge]

so when are you guys bringing back the glorious OFP destruction of vehicles that was offsetting all vertices?

I really liked it

[tepid torrent]

lmao and the houses, funny times, one minute there is an mi17 next there is a camouflaged picasso of polygons 😆

[foggy ridge]

hey I loved it

[tepid torrent]

same, still to this day they never cease to entertain me

[magic pebble]

Projectile change direction after penetration. Is there a way to test and see how bullets act after hitting the windshield of vehicles, I want to see how much they diverge if that is possible on the workbench

[eager sandal]

Maybe the scripting wizard in enfusion scripting knows how... I kinda wanted to know too... like how Dslyecxi did the terminal velocity video

[foggy ridge]

you can turn on projectile visualization in the workbench and it will show you paths they take along with some fun stats

[magic pebble]

any idea how I go about doing that?

[foggy ridge]

windows key + alt in workbench

arrow keys and backspace navigate I think, find projectiles somewhere in there

[storm tiger]

grass is a good question - I'm sure this has been discussed multiple times, since it was obvious from the start of Reforger that grass visibility is gone after X meters. Which leads to the absurd fact that enemies are more visible at a distance than at close range. Someone can hide in grass, but be easily spottable from 800 meters. Especially with scopes, since they have weird LOD settings (and can see thru rain and fog). I understand that it's for performance reasons that you can't do rendering of thousands of grass cards at a distance just to possibly obscure infantry. But I'm wondering if there's work in progress in Enfusion engine to make entity visibility at a distance more realistic, when covered by grass? I mean one cheap dumb trick could even be some kind of post processing effect that makes a soldier kinda transparent, maybe with a crosshatch pattern or something. Basically, render the obscuration, without adding more polys to render?

[foggy ridge]

tbh you could do something silly like look up if the soldier is over a surface that should have grass and add a transparent grass image mask under them or something

[storm tiger]

yea exactly - somehow render only a subset of soldier pixels, based on some approximation of grass coverage

[magic pebble]

Got it. danka.

[foggy ridge]

yeah it would be interesting, every single game that has grass and pvp suffers from this issue and I'm honestly surprised nobody tried to figure it out

[storm tiger]

the mask thing even sounds like it might not look too bad honestly, if the mask is well made. it might also handily take into account the addition of helos, i.e. soldiers could be well hidden from POV near horizon, but very visible from above

another approach could be something that works along the lines of SSAO or somesuch maybe...

[tepid torrent]

That sounds like an interesting way to tackle it tbh

[real breach]

Anyone else having problems with the M2 Bradley mod? Put it on my server and it kept crashing

[half locust]

please use the following channel - https://discord.com/channels/105462288051380224/1153207814198669425

[eager sandal]

Arma 1 used a grass layer I think (or was it Arma 2), its like a flat texture non colliding that sits above a fixed height. When someone goes prone, he is hidden somewhat. But the problem was the grass layer was fixed height, lets say knee/ankle high. So if someone hide in a taller grass, the grass layer still render at knee high, and still expose him. Maybe current technology can varies the height somewhat...

Arma 3 simply sink your character into the terrain. The problem is for the shooter, you have to aim higher because from shooter POV, the target is sunken, but the real position is still on ground... like water mirage.

[real breach]

Says unknown channel

[eager sandal]

Did you click the link? It should brings you to the mod channel

[gusty prairie]

May not have their channels configured properly.

@real breach go into channels and roles and make sure you have that you're interested in enfusion content.

[storm tiger]

grass issues

[soft beacon]

Will there be support for air?

[half locust]

sorry what?

[soft beacon]

Helicopter

Airplane

[magic pebble]

Yes
No

[chilly briar]

Are there any jungle maps being made in enfusion?

[terse cloak]

yes

idk how to link but his name is like cryptic

[paper lily]

Are there any bots for
that show server info in discord?

[slow pagoda]

we dont have any at least

[molten cobalt]

How many people do you need to kick out a person?? These grifters are getting out of hand.

[quaint copper]

Like 80% of your team

[gleaming holly]

official is basically unplayable for extended periods of time. 1 person is able to disrupt the entire match due to grenade ownership bug, ability to delete structures from the jump, and shit voting system

had the same shit happen earlier tonight, Forxe-BlackOp dropping nades and respawning and disabling vehicles in spawn. im not huge on official conflict in general but the trolls are 100% going to kill it if nothing gets done

[tepid torrent]

is there still a free trial for xbox? that may be the biggest problem

[stray blade]

Ye.

[tepid torrent]

they need to get rid of it, it is literally just an invitation for trouble

[stray blade]

Ye.

[terse cloak]

ye.

[foggy steppe]

It's a rare situation

Trolls doesn't play this game often

[sand verge]

SOOooo how we looking on getting some official Helis and other aircraft liiike idk jets??? Maybe????

I saw an A10 mod that looks like it broke down that wall already I mean if a mod dev can do it how about my bros and.. sisters? Idk anyway Bohemia devs and their progress on jets and Helis???

[stray blade]

There will be no official jets.
There will be official mi8 and huey

[terse cloak]

trolls arent rare, they are common.

[foggy ridge]

yah I'm the biggest one and can confirm

[ancient rapids]

Sometimes I feel like all I read about on here is complaints about trolls on official (like bacon)

[gusty prairie]

I played one match on Darkgru and two on PBS last night and had trolls AT LEAST once per game in each match. They messed with base building and TK'd. Luckily there were admins, it didn't take long to remove.

[ancient rapids]

That's the first time I've read about trolls on modded servers! And as I suspected, admins ftw!

[gusty prairie]

Absolutely. Admins are important.

Nobody needs to complain because they get removed quickly. It's not like it's the first time I've encountered crappy folks on modded servers.

[tepid torrent]

PBS admins are funny as, such a good server, nothing but laughs

[gusty prairie]

They're good folks!

Even doing something wrong i was told, "Sorry boys, I need to have you not drop GLs into the enemy main. I'm gonna have to teleport you."

It was more than reasonable.

[tepid torrent]

Lol I have been teleported plenty of times, sometimes games just turn into a Russian rampage to the main !

[gusty prairie]

That's exactly it! Lol

Oops, my fault! I'll keep away next time I guess. Keep the bloodlust down.

[past kayak]

Havent had this game installed in months -is it capable of even the simplest Operation Flashpoint missions yet like Ambush?

[topaz whale]

Things that won't work from Ambush

• no Houdan because no Malden
• no AI driving to Lolise
• no BMP reinforcement to the first area of contact
• no infantry reinforcement to first area of contact or Houdan
• no armor counter attack because of no AI driving and no armor
• no helicopter pickup because no helicopters or AI flying
• no m113 reinforcement
• no AI taking you to the drop off point in the 5t truck

You can almost do steal the car (on Everon) but technically there is an AI flown helicopter in it

Clean Sweep is also knocked out because of the Extraction helicopter plus lack of suppressed weapons but you don't technically need that. Clean Sweep 2 has an AI driven BMP so that's out... pretty much every mission had AI driving in it so until that’s in most ofp missions are out and even then a lot of them are still out for other reasons

[topaz whale]

And Kolgujev, tanks, AI driving, etc.

AI driving is also used if you fail to prevent the crews from getting to the tanks if I remember it correctly. BTRs could play a similar role I guess but makes it a bit easy since you can fire rifle bullets through the side and kill the crew or knock them out with 1 LAW easily.

AI had RPGs I and I think you had a choice of what to take but I could be wrong

[gritty wind]

i'd like to make an inquiry on monetization rules for reforger. can anyone here assist?

[slow pagoda]

nothing can be monetized

[gritty wind]

so only donations are allowed?

[slow pagoda]

correct

[gritty wind]

got it. ty

[slow pagoda]

👍

[long cradle]

If I was to start a server with nitrado, how would I get it to run Kunar, I am thinking of starting up a small 20 slot with a few vanilla style mod

[sand verge]

Is there any Rebel fighter vs Soviet/Russian soldiers scenario in Reforger? Instead of the usual American vs Soviet/Russian soldier.

[ancient rapids]

Just use the civilian clothing mod and dress up like a rebel

[tepid torrent]

i wonder if there will ever be a modular vehicle system like in arma 3? it would eb a cool feature for, it would also clean up the menu a bit considering how many variants and combinations of vehicles you can have

[tepid torrent]

yep very annoying, it seems illogical to keep the system for vehicle spawn bc it is just a massive downgrade from arma 3 garage

[mellow cosmos]

You know what buddy, you think you're so smart with your facts and logic, unfortunately for you. I hacked into your roblox account about 5min ago and am now changing your avatar to quirky femboy-twink. I am also spending all your robux on game-specific cosmetics.

[mellow cosmos]

Additionally good-sir, I am now placing a heavy-vehicle depot and spawning an m2 humvee to taxi myself to the front lines. (at every forward-operating base separate from the MOB. so that the resources get consumed massively.)

[vague crater]

Is there a way to create MP missions within a mission editor yet?

[ancient rapids]

In the workbench tools, yes. In game, no.

[shy elk]

Whats the point of releasing a paid beta for a showcase of Arma 4 rather then making THE actual beta for Arma 4 if that makes sense

[tepid torrent]

people have BIG expectations for arma 4, if they didnt stress test their new engine like they are now it would end in a complete flop, once reforger is compete BI will have the experience with using enfusion and a solid game they can base arma 4 on, with arma 3 they could base it off arma 2 due to its engine but no they have started from scratch, you gotta make something small and improve from that and that is the mission for reforger

[shy elk]

Why do they make us pay for reforger if its a stress test. Too include any person who owns Arma Reforger it will cause them just too technically pay for the same game twice.

[tepid torrent]

but reforger isnt the same game, you coudl compare this situation to the previous arma titles, first you had Cold war assault, it had limited assets and mechanics but from that engine they improved and later made the first Arma and the Arma 2 which were awesome games, bi has to do this all over again with a fresh new engine

[tepid torrent]

also i personaly would rather give the new engine a test now and let the devs iron out the problems instead of wait another 10 years and receive a beautiful arma 4 that cant handle multiplayer and crashes every 5 seconds

yeah i am not to sure who decided the price but i guess people still pay for it and as long as those funds go straight to the development of either enfusion, arma reforger or 4 i am happy

[shy elk]

I do get the point of the engine just why make players pay such a big price tag just too play something similar too what Arma 4 could be whenever the release could be

[tepid torrent]

reforgers assets will be in arma 4 pus a lot more newer ones, i do think that a discount for reforger players would be very well received 👍

[peak thunder]

Man, I feel like people are going to seriously throw a temper tantrum when A4 launches at $50+

[shy elk]

I would be tbh, Cause the first things when I can afford it would be seeing what is new and different and if it actually would be worth it

[tepid torrent]

compared to the price of other AAA games arma is a steal tbh, in my country most of the new COD games cost around $100

i know they are very different games and it differs per person but i personally would pour WAY more hours into arma than COD

[peak thunder]

And I'm not suggesting A4 won't be or shouldn't be $50+. I'm just stating that a large portion of this community still live off memories of A3 launch, and think 10 years hasn't transpired since then. Prices of games have gone up considerably. Today, $30 is a bargain for a game I get as many hours out of as I have.

[tepid torrent]

especially considering its modding community and ability to host your own servers i think it would be a reasonable price

[shy elk]

I mean it would be shocking too see if Reforger buyers dont get a percent or some sort of benefit towards buying Arma 4. Cause if we helped them as the community too fund and get Arma 4 done and finished with that the development team/whoever at BI cant assist us funders really

[gleaming holly]

as long as im confident A4 is going to genuinely use what BI learned from Reforger and deliver a good and actively supported game, id pay $50 for A4.

[tepid torrent]

a discount would be well received i think

[quaint copper]

Good for marketing
Reforger should go on sale at launch too

[shy elk]

It will be as its a fully fledged game and I presume that Reforger server would be closed or dead when Arma 4 is released so its pointless at the stage when not many people can even refund it anyway to assist us as players

[tepid torrent]

i didnt mind east wind, it dragged on for a bit but it had some good lore

[gleaming holly]

BI should keep a list of troll accounts and charge those accounts triple when A4 releases lmao

[tepid torrent]

lmao they could even integrate the warcrime tracker from reforger as a price multiplier 😆

[gleaming holly]

+10% for every warcrime

instead of a tutorial you get a 2hr unskippable seminar on the laws of war

[magic pebble]

yeah i'm definitely needing a bank load to buy a4 in that case

[tepid torrent]

miller was in a stressful situation, he had every right to wave his arms around like an idiot, also he was the only one in the Mediterranean with actual hair so i gotta applaud him for that 😆

[junior totem]

Is there some sort of drone mod currently in the workshop for Reforger?

[topaz whale]

Warzone is free. I've actually played it a significant amount more than Reforger at this point which I never would have thought possible. Last time I even bought a CoD was CoD 1 and I think I got that for Christmas the same year as OFP

[tepid torrent]

i tried it, i thought the extraction type missions was cool, they have improved on a lot of mechanics but the gameplay is way to fast for me tbh, that is my skill issue

[topaz whale]

Yeah I pretty much exclusively play DMZ. I only got it because my brother and friend play it but I started getting really into it. I'm not great against people and avoid contact as much as possible but I occasionally can take someone down.

[tepid torrent]

yep same thing, brother was into it and i was the guy at the back covering while they run in and do a point blank duel 😆

i tried insurgency sandstorm and had a blast, it is very fun and a bit more fast paced than arma

[gleaming holly]

Insurgency is amazing but the community has gone way downhill imo, most people play it lile CoD and want to just run and gun

[river jetty]

Is it possible to delete the mod data on pc?

[slow pagoda]

yes

[river jetty]

How?

[slow pagoda]

you would need to find the reforger workshop folder and then delete the files you want there

though removing them in the mod manager should also remove the files

[river jetty]

it shows the mods in the mod manager even though i dont have them downloaded

all of the mods in the disabled catagory are the ones that wont download

[slow pagoda]

are you sure those mods exist

in workshop

they should be a button to just remove them from the list

[river jetty]

there isnt

and if i try to delete them from the disabled category it just doesn't work because they are not downloaded

[magic pebble]

document > my games > arma reforger > delete the "addons" file

[river jetty]

thanks

worked

[eager sandal]

Why Reforger didn't use clouds in Arma 3? I believe it was trueSky or SimulSky... I believe the clouds in Arma 3 is prettier than in Reforger.

[slow pagoda]

they probably want their own thing

[eager sandal]

Can't they use it as a stopgap or something?

[tepid torrent]

i disagree, while i do think that the arma 3 clouds were shaped more realistically, i think that reforgers clouds manipulate the lighting way more accurately, they also truly feel volumetric arma 3's felt meh, only problem i have with reforgers is the outline that you get around the edge of objects that obscure the sky, it makes overcast missions feel weird especially seeing that glowing line around a treeline, so there is still work that needs to be done

[foggy ridge]

arma 3 clouds changed their shape depending on the camera angle which was just horrible

like if you panned the camera you could see the clouds dancing

[tepid torrent]

yep that is a reason why i like reforgers

[slow pagoda]

licensing costs and implementing costs and would be wasted later

and the lighting was tied to the clouds too

they all part of the same system

so simply put, no they could not

[tepid torrent]

i think that BI building everything from the ground up was quite a good idea for these features they have extra control over now, i wonder if they will ever license out enfusion engine after its hopefully successful showcase in Arma4?

[fossil osprey]

These are most likely the original clouds from DayZ, so just dusting off an old concept. Moreover, their rendering is buggy.

[magic pebble]

Was the wall climbing changed? I can't climb some walls, that I could've climbed before.

[tepid torrent]

i do hate the edge artefacts, maybe they amke the cloud layer render first every frame so we dont get this problem?

[fossil osprey]

And they also move strangely on the screen in all directions, the most visible it is when you are driving a car

[tepid torrent]

yeah it is very noticeable in cars, but also whel looking at a treeline that borders the sky or a radio tower on an overcast day, you can even see the artefacts in the environment trailer video

[late creek]

Is anyone having trouble getting into there rented server?

[plucky glen]

Is there any fix for server comms issues? We get more than 32 players on and our comms go to trash. Testing a few options without removing mods. Did a test with Vanilla radios and use of the comm truck, crystal clear comms and then we got 44 people on the server and they went to trash. It is a modded server, just curious if anyone knows a fix? Any known mods that impact communications via radios?

[shut cosmos]

You should bring that issue up with your hosting provider before here tbh, if you paid people for your server and you aren't able to access it go to the people you are paying for your server.

Also you gave nobody any info on the error codes you were receiving anyway.. so just bring it up with the server host you use

[mossy remnant]

hi does anyone have tips i can do to help improve arma reforger peformance?

[tepid torrent]

Your multiplayer performance will differ from singleplayer based on your connection, other than that I would recommend turning off depth of field, turning environment quality to low and maybe reducing the render scale by 5 - 10% and then enabling Super rez

[mossy remnant]

what will super rez do?

[tepid torrent]

It will make the graphics look much more crisp while using the render scale bellow 100% at a minimal performance hit

[mossy remnant]

ok its ion 1920

turn it to max?

[tepid torrent]

I recommend using full screen no window so you can adjust render scale better

[mossy remnant]

alr

[mossy remnant]

ya bordelress fullscreen i set it to 200%

but it pops out so idk

[tepid torrent]

Yeah 200% will kill your performance, try keep it around 100 but it also depends on your monitor

[mossy remnant]

ok

btw is some servers zero mic cause this server i am in no one speak

like at all

[tepid torrent]

Some servers will have a lot less cooperation than others

[mossy remnant]

i realised that they were all russian

[maiden forge]

Language barrier then

[umbral quartz]

im getting a script mismatch anyone know how to fix it? also im not able to download a mod, im on pc

well im trying to figure this out?

brotha im just trying to get my game to work

do you know how to fix it?

sick

[glacial mulch]

had same problem, reinstalled game and verified game files, that seemed to fix it.

[warm ocean]

Where is the swimming pool located that was added in one of the previous updates? Says it’s in the middle of the mail

[tepid torrent]

theres a pool??? 👀

[topaz whale]

Are you sure they aren't referring to the lake itself?

[warm ocean]

BRB with a screenshot of the dev report from their website

Nvm didn’t realize I can’t post them her

[warm ocean]

Go check the dev hub on the roadmap website. The September 15th update

[topaz whale]

I think they're referring to the lake because the camp that was added there with the slide isn't mentioned.

[warm ocean]

It is

It’s above the where the pool is mentioned

[topaz whale]

That doesn't refer to the camp itself it refers to the props at the camp

[warm ocean]

Maybe then I was hoping to relax and get some good screen shots of it

I DMd you a pic though

[topaz whale]

There is also no model present that is called pool which doesn't necessarily mean there couldn't be one made out of other objects though

I'm 99% sure it's referring to my screenshot above

[warm ocean]

I’ll keep looking but I bet maybe that is their “pool”

[terse cloak]

I think the poola you mentioned are those that are those indystrual things with water

Like the one near montignac

[warm ocean]

I wish I could send a picture here bc it does say “swimming pool”

“Recreational prop set (caravan, tents, diving board, water slide, pedal boats, etc.)

A couple of new locations with these props - 3 small sites in the mountains and on the coast updated swimming pool in the middle of Everon.

Update of interior props in MountainHotel "Hornik".”

[shut cosmos]

That's been there forever lol

[terse cloak]

Yea but it says updated not added

Montignac is about middle of everon

[shut cosmos]

Yeah but, nothing was changed with the reservoir at monti as far as I can tell since the game was launched to early access

I've been scratching my head about the 'pool' as well and yeah I think it's just the pond/lake

[quaint copper]

Besides murals and the removal of all the sandbag defenses by the church, monti hasnt been touched

[tepid torrent]

i love how nice the towns in reforger are, i think it would be cool if there was a more localized conflict mission just in monti

[tepid torrent]

i feel like i never experience radio interference anymore when playing conflict? is the reception determined by vegetation density, weather or terrain features?

[forest ridge]

is there any high ready mods yet?

I saw a guy doing it on a video but I can't find the mod

[crystal apex]

hello, my game keeps going into windowed mode is this something usual?

[slow pagoda]

have you set it to go to windowed mode in the settings or launch parameters?

[crystal apex]

no, but it reverts back to it

[slow pagoda]

immediately when you change it in the settings or after a while?

[magic pebble]

I had this bug few months back. Deleting your profile folder should fix it.

[crystal apex]

well i just got booted of the server and game is in windowed

[crystal apex]

will try

yep that worked for now thank you

[kind axle]

Have you tried this...
If your game keeps switching to WINDOWS mode then try this
Goto c:\users\yourname\Documents\My Games\ArmaReforger\profile.save\settings\ReforgerEngineSettings.conf

Change WindowMode to BORDERLESS if set on WINDOWED.

[gloomy locust]

How long is day/night in arma?

[slow pagoda]

real time

by default

servers might have different settings though

[spark nymph]

Is there a problem with the Arma Servers

[clear sparrow]

Yep

[summer perch]

I heard official helis will be added. Is this true?

[terse cloak]

not likely today but yeah they are being added at some point

[summer perch]

How long? 3 months? A year?

[terse cloak]

no idea.

Maybe the updated roadmap will say it

[stray blade]

At least 1 day.

[terse cloak]

at the least 1 second

[summer perch]

1 nano second

[terse cloak]

there are models of the helicopters but they arent in game

i seen pictures

[summer perch]

I just read roadmap. It is missing ETAs for stuff 😦

[terse cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArmaReforger/comments/15ugrbt/i_found_these_leaks_of_the_gm_icon_for_the_coming/

[terse cloak]

its outdated and there is a new one coming

[summer perch]

sweet, thx G

[quaint copper]

Real, but old models
They've been updated since then

[terse cloak]

Interesting

[quaint copper]

They were leaked last November

[terse cloak]

Where the new stuff

[quaint copper]

Soon™

[terse cloak]

Proof

[stray blade]

Well its an mi8 and huey... you can pretty much know how they will look like already

[terse cloak]

Ah nah never seen a huey

[feral hinge]

How have you never seen a Huey?!?!

[terse cloak]

No idea

[tepid torrent]

you mean in real life or...

[terse cloak]

No idea

[tepid torrent]

nam

[terse cloak]

Im hungry too

[stray blade]

Whats with you finns and never seeing a huey?

[terse cloak]

Mi-8s are in finland but noh uey

[tepid torrent]

a town near mine has a huey on a stick 😆 its a pretty cool war memorial

[terse cloak]

Nice

[chrome sphinx]

I'm not sure how can I improve my reforger FPS? Since launch I had many problems with low fps and I think my rig should handle atleast high settings.

RTX3060 12GB
Ryzen 7 5800x
32GB RAM

30-40FPS on high settings

Everytime I see some youtube videos they can pretty much play on ultra and flawless performance

[foggy ridge]

I mean if you set the graphics settings lower and get more fps then probably gpu?

[chrome sphinx]

So using the present high gives me around 40 and medium now 48

I mean I don't know if it's supposed to be like that

[foggy ridge]

I have a 3080 and on max settings on an ultrawide screen I rarely get 60 (already factoring in cpu bottlenecks - there are things that tank my fps that aren't related to graphix, but in itself the 3080 cant run this game maxed on 4k)

[fossil osprey]

Set environment quality to medium/low it eats 1/3 FPS

[chrome sphinx]

Nope nothing changed

[chrome sphinx]

Reforger has 1070 ti as recommendation. I'm like pretty confident a 1070ti can't run this game smoothly if my 3060 can't handle it

Probably more CPU bound game?

[fossil osprey]

What resolution are you using?

[foggy ridge]

yes and no - there are things that tank frames just because, but it is also a gpu hungry game on top of it

[chrome sphinx]

1920x1080 so pretty much normal

[foggy ridge]

I think the 1070 ti recommendation is relevant for "medium settings 1080p"

[chrome sphinx]

My 3060 at medium 1080p still doesn't reach 60fps lol

Might just be because of badly optimized multiplayer?

[foggy ridge]

medium settings 1080p with FSR then maybe?

mind you the xbox version is capped at 30 fps

[chrome sphinx]

I have FSR also enabled

[slow pagoda]

is this a laptop or desktop machine?

[chrome sphinx]

Desktop

[foggy ridge]

I can do 60 fps ultra settings when I load in arland and have nobody else playing with me

[slow pagoda]

do ou have FPS limiter somewhere? steam, gpu settings? game settings?

[chrome sphinx]

Nope

[slow pagoda]

is the game installed on external drive?

or slow HDD

[chrome sphinx]

My best SSD which also works for Star Citizien

[foggy ridge]

but also I don't think it'll stay at the same performance forever, lots of optimization is planned

[fossil osprey]

Don't you have some nonsense set in the game like upscale to 4k (render scale)?

[foggy ridge]

if I did that I would be putting out a fire by now

[slow pagoda]

could fry some bacon on that 😅

[chrome sphinx]

Oh I know but still, one year after release and performance is pretty much the same I don't know when I can expect a "playable" state

[chrome sphinx]

I don't see that option

[foggy ridge]

half a year ago there was a bug where frames would consistently drop until they reached 15 when playing online so I would say there's been enormous improvement

[slow pagoda]

screenshot your video settings maybe

[chrome sphinx]

Where do you want me to send them? Can't post them here

[magic pebble]

upload to imgur and post the link

[chrome sphinx]

No idea, never experienced it because multiplayer was never a working option for me with this performance. I'm still thinking that I must have gotten something wrong because 1 year after release and still not 60FPS with this rig makes me wonder

[magic pebble]

I don't think you did anything wrong. I have the same issue. been crusing at 30-40 fps for few months

[chrome sphinx]

https://imgur.com/a/VgD6t11

[slow pagoda]

you will need to complete the #✔role-selection (verfication guide at the bottom) to have embed rights on allowed channels

[fossil osprey]

I have a worse gpu & cpu than you and the game runs 60+ FPS with mixed settings. So most likely you have something wrongly set or some problems in the system.

[foggy ridge]

dat connection timeout kick spam

[fossil osprey]

So render scale is only on AMD gpu?

If you have vsync on, set FPS limit off.

Otherwise, there is probably nothing wrong .

[chrome sphinx]

Should have thought about that but nope, nothing changed

So it's just reforger not optimized enough yet? I really want to enjoy the game but I just can't. Game looks really fun when looking at videos but welp

[magic pebble]

Play servers running arland with few number of players. that is the only time i get over 60 fps

also don't go into any towns, and don't have gun fights in town, or large gun fights anywhere really. basically, don't have gun fights.

[fossil osprey]

Here someone is playing the year old version on a laptop 3060 and has ~70 FPS on ultra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybxfRBWaLzc

[foggy ridge]

remember to always only look at the sky

more like 45

[chrome sphinx]

Wtf he has a worse CPU then me and still gets double my fps

[foggy ridge]

I just skipped to the middle and its like 40

[chrome sphinx]

Even at a much higher resolution and also playing Mp it looks like?

[fossil osprey]

Ups, wrong link 🙂 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPlx6KL_K4

[magic pebble]

he seems to be playing offline too. and I saw 54 fps at one point too

[foggy ridge]

tutorial fps benchmark

[fossil osprey]

And Leon's problem is what, it never goes above 30-40 FPS or it drops to 30-40 FPS? Based on what he wrote, I think it's the first, so it doesn't matter if it's a tutorial or not.

[chrome sphinx]

Stays at 30-40 and when looking at ground something like 70fps

At medium he gets like 120fps on training range let me try too, he almost got the same CPU too

Okay so looking at the ground or nothing big gives me 75 FPS capped even tho I disabled v sync and fps limit

[fossil osprey]

Then something is definitely wrong.

[chrome sphinx]

Yeah it's capped at 75 but no idea why tho, I don't have that issue in other steam games

[eager sandal]

I see you enable Vsync... I guess thats why?

[chrome sphinx]

Already deactivated it after someone mentioned it

[magic pebble]

my game was capped at 75 when I was using a 75hz monitor

[eager sandal]

Okey I just tested this. It seems its tied to your monitor refresh rate. I set mine from 144 to 50, so its stuck at 50

[chrome sphinx]

Okay that explains my 75hz but there must be some way to deactivate it

[fossil osprey]

This is rather not a problem, the problem is that if you look around normally you have less than 60 FPS (ideally 75 to match monitor frequency).

If the upper limit is 75Hz/FPS it's ok, vsync prevents various issues like screen tearing and the like.

[chrome sphinx]

True

I don't know, guess it's the game and I can't do anything

[fossil osprey]

You can try such general advice as deleting the game profile in the documents (as the settings are bugged often somehow), clearing the shader cache, updating the drivers and so on

[chrome sphinx]

That actually helped a bit, some what 50-60fps but at cost of clear graphics

[fossil osprey]

At cost of clear graphics? Huh, what it caused?

[chrome sphinx]

I mean the graphics just look more unclear don't know how to explain. Usually like the stuff when you enable DLSS to improve FPS at cost of visuals

[fossil osprey]

With the same settings in the game? Can you post screenshot (png format would be the best).

[chrome sphinx]

I'm just dumb, everything looked prety much the same besides anti aliasing because it was off but guess what, If I even turn it to just 2x my game runs the same.

Turning it off helps performance a lot but also degrades the visual graphics by a lot not making it very pleasing to look at

[fossil osprey]

Even with full anti-aliasing you should have at least some 60 FPS. I don't use it, it looks practically the same on my monitor, I only have it turned on for grass and trees (2x).

[chrome sphinx]

It's annoying as heck that I can't play with good looking graphics and FPS while others with same or even worse specs can. Honestly no idea. Recently did a benchmark to see if my GPU CPU is faulty or anything but nope 100% score on everything.

[fossil osprey]

Yup, that sucks. The 3060 is the most used card, if this was a problem for all players, more people would be complaining.

[foggy ridge]

just find someone with a 3060 and play with them and ask what fps they got with same settings

[chrome sphinx]

If I type "3060" in this discord the first page is of people who have the exact same issue as I do. 40-50 FPS on their 3060/ti

[foggy ridge]

there you go, case closed

[chrome sphinx]

#arma3_troubleshooting message

#hardware_vs_arma message

#arma3_troubleshooting message

[quaint copper]

^ same

[chrome sphinx]

So, really bad performance optimization still after a year. Welp let's see if I get 5 fps more next year

[quaint copper]

I just assumed the game and its drivers are poorly optimized for modern graphics cards

[chrome sphinx]

I really hoped it was just a me issue but damn. A 3060 should still be able to run this game

[light totem]

Who know how to put mods in your server?

[half locust]

#reforger_servers

[half locust]

and pretty sure it does. Maybe not at 60fps on 4k but still - also #hardware_vs_arma

[chrome sphinx]

I didn't expect 60FPS at 4k but 60fps at 1080p

I expected 60fps 1080p on high settings but not possible yet sadly

[foggy ridge]

what (recent) games can you run at 1080p 60fps high settings on a 3060?

[half locust]

a lot of olders ones, but none (minus some arcade and alike) released in the past 2-3 years

i run 60fps just fine on 3080 on native 5120x1440

[flint nest]

Heres a doosy, Can A mod similare to Cup be made, but this would be to port the entireity of the weapons, vehicles and systems from DayZ?

[half locust]

no, because none of the dayz data has ever been released

[flint nest]

Alright, Then why was Cup allowed in the first place?

[half locust]

because the same data-packs i mentioned for a2 and oa are available (release by bi) to use under aplsa license

[foggy ridge]

your 3080 must be faster than mine then since I never get 60 in multiplayer on max settings

[half locust]

on high, not on max. And my multiplayer games are either vanilla or small scale curated mods (under 10)

[foggy ridge]

oh ok that makes sense, it's like whatever though if I ever come back to being an active player I'll just get a 4090 or whatever is the card at the time

[chrome sphinx]

I can't think of any recent games but I don't have any major performance problems like I do in reforger.

[crisp path]

I have a 4070 it works well

[feral loom]

for Arma, recommended hardware is for 25-30 FPS, as usual, at medium settings - not 60 FPS high settings

[chrome sphinx]

Never gonna understand why because medium is not what I would rate as recommended

[feral loom]

in Arma, 25-30 FPS medium/standard settings were considered as good enough, thus recommended

[foggy ridge]

there's no way pc players see 30 fps and go "mhm this is great" in the past decade

then again if you set your goals right you can claim everything is working as expected

[feral loom]

by Bohemia Interactive

otherwise there is no other explanation for hardware they recommend vs. reality

or it's just to attract more potential naive buyers this way that don't know about 2 hours Steam return policy...

well, Reforger actually works much much better than A3 and the better the hardware or the lower the settings, the higher is the FPS, unlike in A3

[tepid torrent]

i run laptop 3060 and get around 40-50 FPS singleplayer, still better than A3

[feral loom]

and that despite mobile RTX 3060 being slower than desktop RTX 3060 and with a worse laptop CPU than his Ryzen 7000

[tepid torrent]

yeah i run i7-10750H, it does a decent job but being a laptop it has its thermal issues...

[feral loom]

• very little cache (vs. Ryzen)

I would say that Reforger is very playable

although not at settings and with hardware most people hope

[tepid torrent]

and i agree, i can play reforger without much complaint, sometimes i will be playing on less than 20 however but this is due to my internet being shit

[magic pebble]

if we don't end up getting over 60 fps during intense combined arms gunfights in urban area, then what is the point of making a new engine

I don't want the game to play like these books that you flip fast to see pictures of what going on

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-dragon-ball-anime-flip-book-animation-gif-17412293

[feral loom]

buy a RTX 4090 or wait for next gen mid-range or high mid-range

[tepid torrent]

i think there will be many more optimizations that will increase FPS as reforger evolves

the are forced to anyways bc the game is targeted at a console platform

[feral loom]

there will be more mechanics and more stuff simulated, that will put more load, on more cores

[tepid torrent]

i am willing to lose a couple more frames if we get some good mechanics happening, hopefully they find a good way to optimize them

[feral loom]

advanced buildings destruction and more and more detailed environment destruction

[magic pebble]

if 4070ti isn't enough to run the game at stable 60 fps, then they should shut the entire thing down

[feral loom]

what res?

[magic pebble]

8k

[feral loom]

my 3090 Ti does 60+ FPS at 1440p (16:9) ultra+ and a 4070 Ti = 3090 Ti

[tepid torrent]

another thing to note would be the C&H gamemode, more performant/stable than conflict, its C&H right?

[feral loom]

a 4090 should be able to do 60 FPS at 4K ultra (not ultra**+**)

[fossil osprey]

And there's nothing in that scene? Show a 10 vs 10 fight where 50 corpses and a bunch of items have accumulated.

[clear sparrow]

Does anyone know if the Vietnam radio mod is fixed or working

[feral loom]

I don't have Reforger installed currently.
these are older screens

[magic pebble]

Game can get 80+ easily when walking around far from other players, can still maintain that fps in smaller gunfights at a small map like arland. However, you will drop to 30fps when there is a proper gunfight, especially inside a town. Hell, I would drop to 30 on Everon just passing thought montignac when there are few players nearby.

[feral loom]

here's an i5-12400F with a RTX 4070 and 2×16 GB DDR4 3600 MHz CL18 at ultra in Conflict on Malden Everon
https://youtu.be/fYXlBvW7mt8?feature=shared

[feral loom]

hardware?

[magic pebble]

13gen and 4070ti

same happens on the amd equivalent of those too.

[feral loom]

exact 13th gen model and RAM frquency + primary timings?

just for understanding

[magic pebble]

i7 13700kf. 64ram ddr4

[feral loom]

players, netcode and balliatics are CPU/RAM

[feral loom]

RAM frequency and at least primary timings

[magic pebble]

let me see if I can find the ram box for that

2x32 ddr4 3600mhz cl18

[feral loom]

I would say you RAM is the bottleneck here.

I was able to increase my FPS by like 30% by only overclocking my RAM.
because you can have the best GPU and CPU in the world, but they will be let down by your RAM since RAM prepairs data for the CPU to deliver it to the GPU.
if RAM is relatively slow, your CPU can't show what it's capable of and same for the GPU

[feral loom]

yeah, that's relatively slow, unfortunately

you have a lot of RAM, but it's relatively slow

[fossil osprey]

Real bottleneck is a badly made unfinished game and not RAM

[feral loom]

sure, Arma isn't perfect.
but very fast RAM by itself, increases FPS a lot

[magic pebble]

I did a lot of reading before getting it, and all google resault said it doesn't matter, and if it did, it will be a max of 3% differenece

[feral loom]

that's wrong

[magic pebble]

isn't ram supposed to make your cpu faster, my cpu is already fast as shit.

[feral loom]

I tested it myself at different frequencies and timings and there was a very noticeable different in Arma specifically

[fossil osprey]

Reforger?

[feral loom]

when a lot of stuff is happening and chanfing quickly - it's a lot of data for the CPU and potentially for the GPU, but it all first goes through RAM and that's the bottleneck nr. 1

[feral loom]

it is. but one can't simply buy more expensive RAM, enable XMP profile and insta enjoy much higher FPS, unfortunately

[fossil osprey]

I don't see a difference in the game if the RAM runs at a base frequency of 3200 Mhz or 3600 D.O.C.P. (AMD equivalent), cl16.

It just increases power consumption, that's the only visible difference 🙂

[magic pebble]

If I can get over 60 fps on goddamn cyberpunk at ultra, then I should be able to run arma too. anything else is a fail on the game side, not the players spec.

[feral loom]

like if you compare 3200 MHz CL16 vs. 3600 MHz CL18 or 4400 MHz CL22 - FPS will be virtually the same, withing margin of error.

because, from 1 side, frequency is better, but from the other, timings are also worse, so the result stays +- same.

the real FPS boost is when RAM frequency is much higher, but timings are same as they were at much lower frequency or even better.
so you've increased RAM frequency, without worsening the timings (keeping them same as they ware at much lower frequency) or even improved them, despite much higher frequency

my RAM is at CL15, so 15-16-15 and not at 3200 MHz, but at 4300 MHz.
that's a very very big difference

not worse, but even improved timings at 1100 MHz higher frequency

that helps to keep min FPS at a much much higher value than most people

[fossil osprey]

There are very few people who buy an expensive mainboard, expensive RAM and then try to experiment with it somehow. Moreover BIOSes are bugged, especially those from AMD (AGESA), so it takes hours to debug anything there. In addition, it all depends on the piece of hardware you currently have. It does meet some specifications, but the variability is quite large.

[feral loom]

overclocking/tuning hardware is for sure not for everyone and it doesn't excuse Arma for being how it is, but helps really really a lot.
and for that you don't even need expensive RAM and motherboard.
you just need to know what relatively unexpensive motherboard and RAM have a lot of hidden headroom and are sold for a good price, because they aren't overclocked from factory at all

you can have relatively unexpensive 3200 MHz sticks that will do like 4700 MHz on air or 5600 MHz sticks that will do like 9000 MHz on air

also any* RAM sticks will work on any* motherboard and they don't have to be on the list of compatible/tested sticks models on that specific motherboard, as long as you know how to set it all up.

there are even sticks that don't have any XMP profile with frequency and timings and have no heatsinks - really cheap OEM green sticks from China , but they can OC like hell, if you set all the voltages, timings and frequency yourself + separately purchased heatsinks

[feral loom]

you can't compare Cyberpunk to Arma, like at all.
majority of stuff is scripted, so it doesn't have to be calculated in real time, like in Arma and there is very very very little stuff that has to be simulated (CPU/RAM heavy), unlike in Arma + there is no netcode, so it's similar to playing Arma in singleplayer.
and even in singleplayer in Arma, you have so so much stuff that has to be simulated/calculated

Cyberpunk is mostly GPU

[magic pebble]

It is a very simple concept. If a 3k PC can't run the game, then that game will never be considered finished.

[feral loom]

by the time Reforger will move to 1.0, there will be mid-range hardware for half of that price that will perform even better than your current hardware

[magic pebble]

Hopefully.

[foggy ridge]

arma hasn't exactly been known for performance so it's just something most arma vets have accepted at this point, doesn't mean it couldn't be better though

[feral loom]

something like a RTX 5070 and Ryzen 8800X3D will deliver much better FPS

[foggy ridge]

reforger has a few interesting quirks on its own like a built-in memory limit that you can't raise that results in waiting for things to load because it's waiting for things to unload

so it doesn't matter if you have 64 gb ram you're still going to see furniture floating in mid-air in cities while you wait for the building to load

[fossil osprey]

Or it's bad "asset manager" and unfinished renderer.

[feral loom]

people that will buy Arma in a few years, past 1.0, with a RTX 6000 or RX 9000 and Intel 16th or Ryzen 9000, won't complain at all, because it will be easy

[foggy ridge]

yes, and at that point it will already be a dated game (not that it matters for arma though)

[feral loom]

already next CPU and GPU gen will be a huge performance boost, like really.
Intel with fat cache, like Ryzen 3D, new Ryzen 3D, like 50% more powerful RTX 5000

[foggy ridge]

more hardware with more power is great, but not relevant to the argument people are trying to make here which is it's not impossible to make the game run better on current hardware

[fossil osprey]

1. Reforger may realistically live to see the next generation of gpu in two years, but that will probably be the end of the game's lifespan. If Arma 4 appears.
2. Hardware is improving very slowly, Intel cpu are lacking progress and same for AMD gpu

[feral loom]

dated visually only.
and that's only vs. other arcady or singleplayer games.
but since Reforger already has very high resolution textures and highly detailed 3D models, it will still look more than good enough for years to come.

and there might be a visual upgrade, like for A3 in 2016 with Apex expansion, 3 years after initial release

[foggy ridge]

well arma 3 is like 50 years old by now and still active so for arma it doesn't really matter that much

[feral loom]

that's the point

[foggy ridge]

though if graphix can get better I'd be happy since a lot of some stuff is really behind other game engines for now

[feral loom]

all the Reforger stuff will be in A4 and it will use the same engine, although upgraded (maybe also visually upgraded), so Reforger stuff won't be gone.

Intel is about to drop a fully new architecture with very very fat cache by the end of 2024 and nVidia with RTX 5000

[feral loom]

don't forget that if devs would do Cyberpunk graphics + usual Arma scale and capabilities, no NASA PC will be able to handle that.

for multiplayer games, graphics have to be nice enough, but not more than that, when it's about shooters + large scale

[foggy ridge]

I don't care about cyberpunk but I would like interior lighting to get fixed and gpu particles to exist at least. Those are not really huge expectations.

[fossil osprey]

Arma 4 will have a lot more content and feel more like a game (if it goes well). This erases the hardware difference.

Intel has big problems to come up with something new, Meteor lake will be just another refresh with high power consumption even though they presented it as a new architecture for years. It will take a long time before something really changes in that company.

[foggy ridge]

The large scale stuff in arma is subjective, to me there is no large scale in reforger yet because there is no hardware strong enough to run at least 128 players with ai over everon

[feral loom]

Bf, CoD, Hell Let Loose, Tarkov, look better overall, only because they're of much much smaller scale and with much much lower 3D objects density, which allows them to push the graphics.

use these games, but with Arma scale at you will cry, if it will be possible.
but it mostly isn't even possible, like at all

[feral loom]

Meteor is a completely new arc, but it will first come to laptops.
Arrow will be the desktop version end of 2024

Meteor is late, that's why it will be laptop only.
but the team working on Arrow are on track for it to be released as planned

[fossil osprey]

Metoer lake IPC +5% max? none 20%

[chrome sphinx]

I don't exactly know where the 3D objects density is in reforger higher than like tarkov shopping mall

[feral loom]

my 6.0 GHz 13900K with 4300 MHz CL15 RAM (~30% OC) is already very very powerful for Reforger.
only need to get a RTX 5000 instead of my 3090 Ti for 4K.

people that will directly get A4 with hardware available by then, will really enjoy the performance and content

[feral loom]

Meteor is not worth talking about, since it's not for desktop.
but its performance will be higher than 10%.

Arrow even significantly more

[feral loom]

not few objects, sure, but not particularly detailed and textures res not as high and almost no view distance, since it's inside a building

[fossil osprey]

Well, I'd say those are too many expectations. Arma 4 likely to be released before the next generation of consoles (2028).
The hardware requirements and game scale will also depend on this. It won't be a title for the 5% of players with the latest hardware. I guess.

[feral loom]

ofcourse not.
consoles have 8/16 cores/threads Ryzen 3700X and Radeon that's performance wise like an RTX 2070 (Super)

[fossil osprey]

So it should be targeted for 3060 like hardware.. Todays PC mainstream.

Btw., the only recent game where you can see any next gen is this Korean thing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK_ennnqkQQ&t=203s although it's hard to say what it's running on and how much of it is a fake trailer. The Reforger doesn't look very good in comparison, both are custom engines.

[feral loom]

makes no sense to compare Reforger to singleplayer games or to other types of multiplayer games.
for me, Reforger textures are very sharp and 3D objects very detailed for what Arma is about

[fossil osprey]

I would say that it can be compared to any open world game. Multiplayer adds extra complexity, but more in terms of the difficulty of how to do it than in terms of hw requirements.

It is true that the 3D scene in Reforger is much clearer than in other games. That is, except for the shortcomings of the renderer, which has big problems with horizontal and vertical lines and because of this the image "shakes" a lot.

[feral loom]

actually hardware...
because really really a lot of different stuff to account for and to simulate.
other open world games have only a fraction of that and similation of a lot of different stuff hits CPU and RAM very very hard

[feral loom]

corpses and vehicles physics, ballistics, particles, objects/vehicles destruction/damage, netcode, AI brains, terrain etc, it's all CPU/RAM

[fossil osprey]

Most of this is simulated by the server and not the client.

AI, pathfind and similar things have the biggest impact.

[feral loom]

it tanks server FPS, which when lower than a certain level, tanks client FPS + requires to have expensive server hardware, if it's a community server + still a lot of stuff going on client hardware, that also has to be powerful, especially the GPU and RAM

[fossil osprey]

On that chart you can see that the 3060 is +2% and the 3060 Ti is +30%, that's about the range where it should go 1080p 60 FPS within a standard game without mods (64 players + AI?).

[feral loom]

yeah, 3060 Ti is ~30% more powerful than a 3060, which is enough to have ~60 FPS at 1080p with a mix of nice looking settings

3090 Ti is ~70% more powerful than 3060 😱

[quaint copper]

I have a 3060 TI and run the game comfortably on medium, at around 30-50 frames

[feral loom]

resolution?

[quaint copper]

1080

[feral loom]

well, that's your RAM 100%

[quaint copper]

Ryzen 7 7800 X3D
32 gigs DDR4

I use about 70% when playing Arma including other background systems

[feral loom]

RAM capacity doesn't have anything to do with how fast it is

[quaint copper]

I'm not running out of memory

My PC is benchmarked to run this game at 90 frames on the settings I use
But it doesn't

[feral loom]

I never said anything like that

Ryzens have terrible min FPS, even 3D, despite nice looking average and max FPS

[quaint copper]

I had better frames in my 1660

[fossil osprey]

Normally in the game when you drive alone through the countryside?

[feral loom]

saying you have 32 GB RAM is like saying your car is 5 meters long, which doesn't say snything about its performance...

[feral loom]

and what do you have now?

[quaint copper]

3060 TI

[fossil osprey]

That game probably hates NVidia cards 🙂

[feral loom]

something's definitely wrong there

I need a better than 3090 Ti GPU for more than 60 FPS ultra+, possibly in 4K

so at least few more years of wait

I'm fine for now with 60 FPS in 1440p (16:9)

CPU and especially RAM OC helped really a lot

[fossil osprey]

On the RX 6600 XT with a few things on high/ultra, it runs a rather stable 60+ FPS in 1080p, although of course in some situations it drops to 50 and rather rarely to 40 FPS.

When it rains and you are in the base, there are problems. But I would say that mainly because of the bugged particle effects.

[feral loom]

40 is fine

I'm really happt to see, that better hardware or lower settings finally increases FPS, unlike in A3

[fossil osprey]

Most settings have minimal effect on image quality within medium - ultra settings. Respectively, it is hard to notice.

[dusk hull]

Its just stupidly demading

To a level, where I doubt, that they put to much effort into optimization

I run Starfield and Cyberpunk at higher framerates than arma Reforger

On a 7900XTX

[gritty wind]

anyone find the new swimming pool that was added in the middle of Everon?

[cerulean token]

Its just the lake near figari, you can find a waterslide where pinewood lake is in conflict

[feral loom]

considering that's for 10 years to come, without any substantial changes...

[shut cosmos]

You had me confused as hell, this is Everon not Malden lol

[dusk hull]

I mean

Thats just bohemia being stubborn then. Other companies have done "mid-life upgrades" of their game engines.

And it didn't take years

[half locust]

but generally is not the engine, but the shaders, assets etc that are in need of a mis life upgrade

[foggy ridge]

reforger has great potential to become graphix

people will make crazy stuff for it if we can ever build our own shaders

I want to make lava flows and thick snow

[half locust]

it is the draw calls that affect performance (and size of textures, less so the geometry these days) not the engine

[dusk hull]

Well

You can do that and lots of other games have done that

[half locust]

i was trying to point out that you are trying to argue by typing that and this without actually knowing what you are talking about...

[dusk hull]

It seems like you don't know what you are talking about

Bohemia is one of the few companies to run a game on a single engine version for 10+ years

And engine updates can bring new technologies etc. The Enfusion engine is already behind unreal engine when it comes to a lot of stuff.
Nanite, Lumen etc. are gamechangers

The game has no temporal upscaling

No raytracing at all, no hdr support

The game is just brute forcing FSAA instead of getting things like dlaa

Throwing lots of computing power at it

[half locust]

but it isn’t the same engine version, throughout a3 lifespan there have been at least 3 revisions engine side

just to make things clear. Are we talking about the game or the engine, because you seem to be mixing things

[dusk hull]

3 revisions? Are these listed somewhere? Because bohemia interactive doesn't list any revisions for real virtuality 4 on their website

[half locust]

there is no engine out there that is above unreal in most of graphics areas. so it is a bit of a moot point. And enfusion is not supposed to compete in the same market with an engine developed for licensing

[half locust]

why would they? neither does cdpr with their red engine, or rockstar etc. rv is proprietary, non licensing

i still fail to see what is the point you are trying to make. cyberpunk getting dlss 3.5 meant there was an engine update (besides the game update). Such engine updates are not public, you just assume there is no work on the engine

[dusk hull]

I am not talking about minor revisions with bugfixes. Arma 3 didn't get any meaningful new features during its lifetime (at least none relating to engine updates)

[half locust]

define meaningful features…

physics update, visual update, class inheritance update, bipods/ weapon resting/support and more recent thermal updates all had engine side revisions (from the top of my head, in order)

[magic pebble]

Wasn't there a terrain destruction update a while ago too

I remember reading something about that.

[topaz nexus]

Yes but it made some stuff destructible

[half locust]

also that one.

[dusk hull]

I already listed a bunch

Upscaling, that is not just spatial
Raytracing
Anti-Aliasing that doesn't just throw a bunch of compute at you (DLAA, FSR Native)
Framegeneration
hdr support

[dusk hull]

For arma 3?

[half locust]

so all things that are visual related, less so meaningful in terms of engine capabilities. Afaik fsr implementation is on top of the engine (it is a new compile either way). so is dlaa/dlss

[dusk hull]

The original discussion completely derailed from you trying to prove a point. When it was originally, how unoptimized the game is and that we can't expect any meaningful updates regarding this. (Given Arma 3s trackrecord)

And yes. The consumer cares about visual updates on a game that has such a long runtime

[half locust]

and i have told you that part of such optimization (the majority) comes from assets and shaders optimizations rather than adding a demanding feature like ray tracing. Sure there is a rendering pipeline that could in theory get some updates, but generally speaking the thing that matters the most are still the average draw calls

[dusk hull]

But you are acting like BI has actually updated any of this on arma 3 during these 10 years.

[half locust]

by consumer you mean yourself. Fair enough, but most of these amd or nvidia features are built on top of the engine.

[half locust]

no, i corrected you when you said bi has not updated rv for 10 years

i care more for having a proper simulation in place or a proper sistem for resting weapons or tracked vehicles taking into account all the wheels physically correct than about ray tracing

[dusk hull]

Raytracing, hdr support are not nvidia or amd features. But yes, its pretty standard nowadays to include these gpu vendor features.

[dusk hull]

You are acting like they are mutually exclusive

[half locust]

they are not. I said i care more about some things than others. ray tracing or hdr doesn’t make a game better, maybe just prettier at best.

[dusk hull]

Both are factors for immersion 🤷‍♂️

[half locust]

latest cod i played for a couple of hours has all these things available in settings. It’s a decent looking game (i could say bombastic pretty but not realistic either). It’s still the same turd as ever

[dusk hull]

The game can have the best mechanics of all time.
If it looks like roblox I will not play it as a milsim game

[magic pebble]

yes