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finite saffron
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A lot of people overhyped starfield and I'm not sure why. This happens with every bathesda game lol

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It's a bathesda game, I'm not sure why everyone expected it to be so much more than that

craggy egret
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I think we keep thinking Bethesda would eventually learn from their past failures.. but I guess they know it doesn't matter. Like I would've thought that after all of the fallout from Fallout's inventory issues from each game.. they'd spend some time with actually hiring a ui developer to build a good inventory management system. but nah.. why spend the money when modders will fix it for free.

finite saffron
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Maybe I'll change my expectations when they stop using the creation engine lol

craggy egret
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VERY True.

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Is that their proprietary engine for them? Or just a lesser used engine?

finite saffron
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Yeah it's their own in-house engine. Was good when they first made it, but at this point I think they're just using it out of habit

short sail
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The thing is: I can feel here with Vapok. I play WoW too (had me constantly on the hook for the last ehrm... 14 Years I guess.) but I can't really stand DOS2 & BG3, may be the turn based combat, may be that my friends make everything a slog in fights or spoiler themselves & just predate the campaign then... I just played Divinity through and was like "Yea... Won't do that again." Character Builds etc. were cool & good, but I guess the problem is more that I just have no big interest in getting the info where I get the best set, what I've to do for it, et cetera. My friends for record already cheesed the burning blade in the 1. real fight & everything else they can get their hands on in BG3. Dunno, I would be just talking with NPCs and look what the story is up to... But for me the system of "You miss something if you rest" is smth that just grinds my gears. And, dunno why, but open world Diablo IV was - at least for me - a hard failure... Didn't even do the main story and that'll mean something. deercat_derp

untold lynx
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iunno I don't think you miss anything if you rest

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there is to my knowledge one thing that happens on a timer, in act 3, and so requires you to look into it sooner rather than later (and did require me to reload an earlier save at some point, that was indeed annoying), but that's it. Except for the resources spent to feed your gang

short sail
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If I remember correctly, after 2 rests the druids will have performed their ritual and so on... There were occassions where you'd miss out on things, but don't get me to name them, BG3 does not really take many memory in my personal brain-ram. If you like BG3: More power to you, I'm glad for you, for me... nah. It won't click. Valheim for example has stolen me 2k hours. ๐Ÿ˜…

untold lynx
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oh I must have lucked out on that front because I solved that issue first I guess?

craggy egret
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Yeah Valheim has soaked up quite a few hours myself. It has the right balance of 3rd perspective, exploration, danger/survival, bulid/crafting, and at least for me, the added benefit of being able to mod it.

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What i loved most about Enshrouded Closed Beta was that.. ALL of those itches that Valheim scratched, were handled with Enshrouded. Except the modding one, but it's too early, and for the most part, I am a purist when it comes to games. I feel games should be played (at least through the first play through) without mods and as the developers intended it. Then, once you've experienced the developer's vision for the game.. adding mods allows variability for replays over and over. But I was thoroughly satisfied with the closed beta.. even with all of it's roughness.

short sail
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In the forums of BG3 is a thread about missable events, if you're interested CUB. But opinions seem to differ, some say rest as often as you want, some say you'll miss out on things...
I'm actually doing a bit of a RPG with my friends, because they get bored fast. They're not into that much of "traveling" and want more to "fight" for their equipment et cetera, so I've build an arena where I'll get them to challenge enemies up to starred ones, after which they get a prize money. With that money they can buy the actual "tier" for the biome, we're in from me. ๐Ÿ˜…

Mines etc. are build by me, where I've made short-events like scenarios in wow, where they must escort a cart to the mine with the ressources, or withstand invasions within the mine, or defeat the big baddie making this cave his home.

untold lynx
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sounds fun

short sail
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Oh, I was getting creative with that. For example had we Draugr taking over our base after we were fighting with bonemass. From what I can say, one of my party had nearly a heart attack. ๐Ÿ˜…
One rule of cool was, shut every door before you leave. Or I'll spawn bats/skeletons inside your house. ๐Ÿ˜‚

untold lynx
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you think my dwellings have doors???

short sail
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How do you get home? deercat_derp

untold lynx
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you jump over the moat after running like Yagluth itself is after you

craggy egret
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Moats are the superior defense strategy

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that or raised ground walls.

untold lynx
quasi lichen
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because stone walls should do this trick

craggy egret
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yeah but a troll with a log will eat through stone.

quasi lichen
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but no, stone walls are about as sturdy as gingerbread

quasi lichen
craggy egret
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I spent some time building a stone wall with an iron mesh on the front. definitely slowed down troll attacks.. but then on another play through. I decided to just find a hill and then carve out a plateu with a ditch around the back.. seemed to work great for base raids. The only thing they'd attack was my bottom opening where my boar and lox pen was, which was pretty well honeycombed to allow some time.

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Except for bats.

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The Bat attack is real.

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I'm working on a mod that also changes how bats work.. and makes them a bit more difficult, and drops bloodbags.

quasi lichen
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This is what bothers me about the raids. in Thousands of years of human history, walls have been prime defense number one against enemies without siege equipment. Cue game developers thinking "hey, lets make these walls fluffy, that makes sense"

craggy egret
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Yeah I had a chicken coop that I thought was well protected.. but it had a chimney... for the fire pit that I was using to keep the chickens warm. And a bat attack showed up.. and went down the chimney.. and killed all of the chickens.

short sail
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Well, one "Event" I have made with my party is for example that when we put harvester into Yggdrasil-Wood, every 2 mins seeker show up, so we have to stay and defend there. Even Invasions or Gjalls.

About the Stone-Wall topic: Normally, Enemies won't notice you... But the problem is, at night, enemies from different biomes do spawn in - who are at war with each other and trigger the "Hunt" or "Aggressive"-Mode... and then they instantly knew where the player is hiding, won't come in to him and attack fiercly everything in their way. It's more a faction problem in Valheim, than a problem about the raids itself.

quasi lichen
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i mean, there are enough ways to make raids interesting without having useless stone walls

craggy egret
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That's one thing that I think Valheim got right.... Was faction aggression. It's awesome sneaking up on skellies fighting the grey's..

untold lynx
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if your base is near the water the mobs will wade into it and try to swim up rocks or something, and effectively just bathe in there for a while

craggy egret
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Defending a water base is really hard I've found.

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You have to build out so far into the water.. which is doable...

quasi lichen
craggy egret
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but.. time consuming.

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you'd think vikings would learn how to swim better too.. but swimming is like... dangerous. lol

untold lynx
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they're like "oh cool shortcut"

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cue swimming lesson

craggy egret
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lol

untold lynx
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maybe that only worked for the enemies attacking from a specific angle, I'm not sure their pathfinding is so deep

craggy egret
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The swamp mobs definitely have some kind of improved water /swimming skill.. as they can wade out pretty far from shore.

short sail
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I mean, there would be 3 ways to solve the "Issue" about mobs just mindlessly attacking walls:

  1. Enemies need to notice the player himself and cannot do that if he is behind a wall (Palisade, Stone, et cetera) - problem is, Aggressive-Stance is the same as the "Hunt Mode" used in Invasions...
  2. Making stone walls way tankier, but that would cause problems because you could just wall off bosses or enemies forever and bow them down. (Trust me, that're tactics already in use)
  3. Or... make enemies join factions, at least in the night, so they just team up against the player at nights and won't join hunt mode so fast as now.

the thing is: Swamp enemies don't do swimming, they're running through water... they cannot swim ๐Ÿ˜…

craggy egret
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lol

short sail
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Ever seen a floating skeleton? Me not ๐Ÿ˜‚

untold lynx
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maybe if the skeleton has osteoporosis fell_smort

short sail
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Well I guess, the problem is more of... no air in organs, like... lungs. deercat_derp

craggy egret
untold lynx
short sail
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Floating skeletons in Enshrouded when? fell_giga

craggy egret
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Hey now..

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We first gotta give them time to add water. My guess is... there's some lore we don't know about where all the water was evaporated and turned into Shroud.

untold lynx
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the lore does mention the water evaporating iirc

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which raises interesting questions about the water cycle

short sail
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I guess that would need something whats boiling the water underground or... well. Eventually the spores do hinder water being liquid or absorb them. Eventually the shrooms do soak up all water?

craggy egret
# untold lynx which raises interesting questions about the water cycle

IT makes sense... but also.. the pockets that allow the water wells raises more questions.

We also found out that if you dig far enough down.. you get into Enshrouded areas.. which to me is like the "water table" level.. but if you continue digging you get under it. We built a base on the bottom.

short sail
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And for the record: I meant it funny when I asked for floating skeletons. That doesn't even need water, they could just fly through the air or air walk. fell_cry

untold lynx
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moonwalk, maybe?

craggy egret
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Oh man.. that just gave me an idea.. attaching gliders to the Vulkari.. Flying Ewoks is the vision that has popped into my head.

short sail
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They walk from one side of the night sky to the other - backwards! Doing awkward sounds.

brisk beacon
craggy egret
brisk beacon
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Like. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

honest valley
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san andreas the npcs cant swim either

red ibex
brisk beacon
neon sleet
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If water does not evaporate
And there is no natural rain cycle...
Perhaps an extraplanar entity or force could see the pitiful realm and make a sort of one-way-cycle as a means of humor. Laughing at our inability to maintain a balanced ecosystem. Perhaps the shroud is even part of it.
Something like:
"Hey, yawl really can't keep a planet alive. It's pathetic really. Here's the trade. We're gonna give you rain. And inexchange, you'll also get this little....Shroud we've wanted to test. Two for the price of one eh?"

slate prawn
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We need a RPG survival game + a real MMO

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this small servers like Valhein is not good. The game is dead already

untold lynx
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okay deercat_sadthumbs

slate prawn
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Same as the amazing Vrising. It is dead already

untold lynx
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'tis better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all

slate prawn
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Yes

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I agree

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But they could revive the game

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By changing to be a real MMO

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Where we can came back every other day

finite saffron
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Kind of another case of people overestimating the dev team to be honest, though I don't necessarily blame the players for that. Stunlock is not very big though, according to wikipedia only 30 or so employees

untold lynx
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not every game wants or needs to be a game-as-a-service, I think

slate prawn
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Real big MMO + surviving game would be nice

finite saffron
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Most MMO scale projects have hundreds if not thousands of employees touching it in one way or another

slate prawn
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That is fine

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I am not blaming the team

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I am just mentioned this is the game that is not avaialable

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This is the missing peace

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Aiming for that could be hudge

untold lynx
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I don't think "trying to make an MMO in 2023" is a viable route for most developers

finite saffron
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any* probably lol

untold lynx
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sure, there are still MMOs around. Are most MMOs viable projects to undertake, though? We've seen enough try and fail, even at their heyday in the late 00s and early 2010s

finite saffron
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I think the next successful MMO needs to change the formula quite a bit, the wow-like genre of mmo clearly is not working

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albion is the only one I know that has done well, and lo and behold they did something pretty unique. The only similar game is eve

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All I want for christmas is for another studio to take a crack at an MMO-FPS like planetside 2

untold lynx
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I would say EVE is "successful" only insofar as the fact that they stay in their lane. They have a niche audience and they cater to it. When they tried to expand with Dust_514 and Eve Valkyrie, neither game worked out at all

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their userbase is like, actually really small

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paying userbase I mean

finite saffron
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yeah I'd honestly say albion has been more successful than eve just because it feels even remotely accessible

I don't understand how eve is pulling in ANY new players, that game has the most insane new user experience I've ever seen

rotund bison
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an upcoming MMO is Fratured Veil, will be getting into EA soon

untold lynx
finite saffron
short sail
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If you wanna have an mmo survival game look at World of Warcraft Classic Hardcore. fell_giga

finite saffron
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Ironically I think the best survival "MMO" is still probably minecraft community servers lol

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or maybe conan, but I haven't actually had a chance to play conan much

red ibex
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Conan is good, Mincraft is also good, but people want 'building' with smaller blocks, so everyone is waiting for the 'NEXT' minecraft.....and we're still waiting. Dual Universe, was supposed to fill this void, but it did not. Some hope....Enshrouded will.

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Landmark, was that! Daybreak (they break) games ended it.

viscid silo
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On the contrary, every mmo is dead on arrival and never captures a big enough audience, and they slowly wither away while depending on skinner box crap to keep you playing and microtransactions to keep you paying. Games like Minecraft, Valheim, Ark, and this one can be enjoyed for years and years with varying size groups of people and the reason you will log in to play is because you want to, not because you feel compelled to not miss out on whatever trickled-out trash they are pushing this "season".

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conan is quite good but it's prtty much run its course at this point unless you play privately like the previously mentioned stuff. Even then it's showing it's age, and the battlepass stuff they introduced a year or so ago is a perfect example of why the people crying for mmos and mmo-like mechanics are just plain wrong

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Really wish hytale wasn't spinning its wheels so badly too

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plus every mmo feels pretty hollow unless it's absolutely bustling. A couple thousand is a "dead game". Where these sandbox servers always feel fresh and alive with even a few dozen. I recommend pacing your enjoyment and starting over on different runs and with different groups periodically to fully enjoy them instead of expecting an mmo experience.

finite saffron
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Eh honestly I'm happy hytale is taking so long, means that they're not just cash-grabbing on pre-orders when they easily could of, that game had insane levels of hype

viscid silo
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Fair, it's not wait that bothers me so much, just been a lot of 3 steps forward 2 steps back and going dark for like months at a time.

finite saffron
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I imagine after they got aqcuired by Riot the scope of the project increased dramatically, probably messed up their marketing cadence

viscid silo
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Yea that's fair too, it still looks really promising

brisk beacon
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Shotgun with double scope

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neon sleet
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That is revolting.

finite saffron
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Underrated game tbh it's one of my favorite modern fps games

craggy wing
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Anyone here remembers Bad Company 2 with slug shotguns?
So OP, so good

finite saffron
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Yes, was borderline better than actual snipers. Very funny

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insurgency sandstorm actually just has realistic shotguns, but gamers are so used to shotgun projectiles magically disappearing after just a few meters than when they see realistic shotguns they think they are broken or janky lol. The buckshot in sandstorm has a lot of range

craggy wing
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Tarkov has pretty satisfying shotguns too. You just have to aim for the legs :P

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I love games that do shotguns justice. Hell Let Loose is one of them. Super fun to use the shotgun in it

finite saffron
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Yeah all the "realistic" shooters tend to do that. I like sandstorm though because it has relatively realistic movement and gunplay, but the actual pacing of the game/matches itself is still very fun and arcadey. Matches are very fast paced and you get back into the action really quick for how tactical of a game it is.

I personally can't really stomach games like squad or hell let loose just because of how slow they are, walking for minutes on end not finding any action only to die out of nowhere to some guy you can't even see kinda sucks. Also the communities are so insanely hardcore that I don't think I fit in lol, I can't take games that seriously

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I do love the helicopters in squad though... I'm tempted to sink a lot of time into it just to be a transport pilot

craggy wing
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I never played Sandstorm. I want to give it a try now

untold lynx
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dubudubudu

craggy wing
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I never played Squad either, so I can't say much about it (other than the infantry overhaul that is coming looks super cool).

HLL has a hell of a learning curve, so player retention seems bad. But once you understand positioning and where combat is going to happen by only looking at the map, then you can get into action pretty quickly. HLL also needs a lot of teamwork to be played properly, as spawns are 90% player created. It takes a lot of coordination and good communication.
I love the game, and I was invited to play it competitively, but I don't really agree with how the community plays that game competitively (often with 200+ ping, only 18 vs 18, and with some really cheesy strats for taking out spawn points)

merry moat
craggy wing
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Nooooooooo

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Not that kind of sandstorm, damn it ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†

finite saffron
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I honestly think it's one of those games that sorta got shot in the foot by their own veteran players who were fans of the previous game. I remember it got a lot of negative reviews at launch from people who were comparing it to the previous game.

But as someone who didn't care too much about the previous game... I've honestly always thought it was pretty awesome lol

craggy wing
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And it has a PvE mode? I'm wishlisting it right now

finite saffron
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Still has some of the best sound design I've heard in an FPS game

craggy wing
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Stop selling me the game, my wallet can't take this kind of abuse ๐Ÿ˜†

finite saffron
craggy wing
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Seriously, though, I'm into the whole audiophile world and a good sound design in a fps is a dream come true.
I stopped playing Tarkov because of how bad sound is in that game. HLL on the other hand has an amazing sound design. DRG as well

finite saffron
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Oh yeah you'd be very impressed by sandstorm then, the sounds themselves all sound amazing, but also their directional audio system is one of the best I've seen in a shooter. I've never had an easier time finding people with just my headphones, at least in a game with that much chaos

craggy wing
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Have you ever had the pleasure of using a planar headphone or IEM @finite saffron ?
(Not that all planars are great, bit still)

finite saffron
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Not planars, but I have IEMs yeah, and I use the ATH-R70X as my daily headphones at work which I really like.

craggy wing
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Cool
I have a ATH AD700x, which has pretty much the same body than yours, but the sound signature is different (mine is all over the place, yours seems to be much better). Few other headphones come close to the soundstage those ATHs offer. And they are super breathable, which is nice for warm days.

Anyway, give a planar a chance, whenever you can. Something like a 7Hz Timeless or a S12 Pro for IEMs. Maybe something by Hifiman for headphones. The resolution and subbass is *chef's kiss*

finite saffron
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I have the shure SE215s for IEMs, but no idea if they're planar or not. Don't honestly know a ton about headphones lol

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I really like good audio but don't honestly care that much about the "tech", so I've always just done research on what has the best soundstage and stuff for the price

untold lynx
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I use plane headphones I got from my last transatlantic flight, but they're mono so I plug two pairs, in separate audio jacks. The sound is unparalleled fell_giga

finite saffron
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the ones in the little baggy?

untold lynx
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yes

finite saffron
untold lynx
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I paid 2 entire dollars for each pair, better get my money's worth

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I'm not watching 21 Dresses with no sound ever egain

craggy wing
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Hahahahahaha

finite saffron
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On a similar note, my GF and I recently bought a pretty nice surround-sound soundbar setup for our TV, and ever since we've bought it the only thing we've been using the TV for is marathoning the old seasons of spongebob

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totally worth it

lunar flame
craggy wing
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@untold lynx this is their frequency graph, btw ๐Ÿคฃ

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finite saffron
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I absolutely love that somebody did a frequency graph for those

craggy wing
untold lynx
craggy wing
untold lynx
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yes this graph makes sense to me, a learned man

finite saffron
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I never did either, but the TVs default audio sounded so incredibly bad that we genuinely couldn't understand dialogue in movies we watched lol

quick jolt
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Soundbar with woofer made tv sound so much better

craggy wing
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Crinacle is the guy who maintains the world's largest public database of IEMs and headphones. Here's a very sober take on gaming headphones:
https://youtu.be/gOYRu6q8qJ4?si=mElq4a7aSspZ6uqd

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THE BEST GAMING HEADPHONES don't matter

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finite saffron
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all those graphs really mean is how well audio equipment can respond to different frequencies. Usually audiophiles prefer it to be as flat as possible to have a "true" audio experience that's close to the original, but also a lot of consumer headphones tend to intentionally skew it (in particular towards bass frequencies)

untold lynx
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a former colleague was an audiophile and he made us purchase thousands of dollars of equipment he didn't know how to use, so whenever I read "audiophile" I think "easy mark" fell_cry

finite saffron
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I mean yeah they are lol

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I like audio but I also can't really fathom spending several thousand on a pair of headphones, unless I was a professional that absolutely needed to have perfect soundstage or whatever. Beyond a couple hundred bucks I really think it starts turning into placebo effect haha

untold lynx
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post our new tiktok Toast, fun audio chat times later!! deercat_derp

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fame and glory can't wait

craggy wing
craggy wing
untold lynx
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my keen ear: "is this thing on? ๐Ÿค”"

finite saffron
# craggy wing Crinacle is the guy who maintains the world's largest public database of IEMs an...

I hear this a lot, and it's all true, but I think the main thing audiophiles don't realize here is that for most people cost and convenience are the two biggest factors, not sound. A lot of gaming headsets are <50 bucks, and it's very difficult (impossible?) to get a half decent pair of headphones+boom mic for that much. Maybe a desk mic, but a lot of people don't like the inconvenience of those, and without a mic stand (extra cost) it will probably sound horrible.

But if anybody is spending more than 50USD on gaming headphones, then yeah you should probably just get separate pairs. The cost to quality ratio starts to get real bad

craggy wing
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I agree.
Though you can probably get a good 20$ IEM (like a Salnotes Zero) and something like a BM800 for mic for 50$ total. And it comes with mic stand. You would be hard pressed for cable length on the IEM, but there are cheap work around for that. Still, not everyone wants a desk mic, as you said.

On that convenience note, however, I think things should change in the near future now that more and more IEM companies are putting a boom mic on their cables. They are still a bit expensive now, but give it time and let's see how it goes

finite saffron
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I hope more cheap options start coming out for those cheap attachable boom mics, they're pretty nice

whole nacelle
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lol wanna see something funny?

untold lynx
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it wuld have been so much simpler to just color in the Ultramarines logo fell_cry

craggy wing
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@untold lynx I think it was this video, around 4:28 mark. It's just a brief commentary, really.

https://youtu.be/yDesgLnyGIA?si=hZFogu0tNxS5NUxq

The video has good points about co-op in general. Might be worth watching it all, despite the tiresome AI voice

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finite saffron
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Yeah even without seeing this video that's actually something I've talked about with many of my game developer friends. More than almost any game I can think of DRG is really great at avoiding toxicity and tricking players into working together/being nice to each other through design. I hope more games take inspiration from it, it's one of the few games where I actually prefer playing with randos than playing by myself

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full acorn
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So uh, this seems like a good time to bring this up... If you are one of the lucky people to not be able to play the demo and instead has to wait until EA or full release, then lucky you! You should check out Keen Games' previous title Portal Knights!
not sponsored by Keen Games*

full acorn
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I spelt knight wrong fell_cry

craggy egret
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@winter heath That Valheim image you shared in #enshrouded-chat is amazing. It is really pretty!

Gotta ask, how many instances is this? On my discord, I have a user that's building this amazing castle and is up to something like 120K instances. FPS is horrible though.

winter heath
finite saffron
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Honestly I am amazed that runs at anything above slideshow levels

craggy egret
finite saffron
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Valheims building system isn't exactly known for being easy on resources ๐Ÿคฃ

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I don't think I've known anyone who makes these kind of builds in valheim, they're tool assisted in some way I assume right?

winter heath
craggy egret
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nope no tool, short of the devcommands/fly/nocost commands

finite saffron
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Oh good lord

craggy egret
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He's working on a dock too now..

finite saffron
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I didn't even have the patience to make minecraft builds without tool assist, I can't even imagine making something like that by hand lol

winter heath
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It all started in January. And then i just had to finish it.

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Since the first building trailer of enschrouded we are looking forwars to it. The streamer who owns the Server the Cathedral is located is currently streaming Enshrouded fpr 130 ppl btw, he will dive deepo into it for sure aswell.

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Had some crashes, but is in love alrdy

finite saffron
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Honestly we expected this branch to run much worse tbh, we're very happy with how it's doing so far. We knew there'd be issues going into it (like we explained in #news)

Should have a lot of improvements ready for our Oct 9th build :)

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Though we also weren't expecting this many people to notice it... So I guess it's very good that it's running better than expected lol

craggy egret
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Expectation management is really key. Tell people it's going to be slow.. lowers expectations, and makes people happy.

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Under-promise, over-deliver fell_smort

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Taj Mahal

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Is there any free games that have similar features like the buildin , caving/mining , fighting bosses, ect ect!! i sadly cant run this game as my GC is only 4gb

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Bro if yall can make that happen

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that would be insane

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im sure i wouldnt be the only happy one!! Lol

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I mean, as a lot of people can tell you we've got a lot of work ahead of us to optimize the game still

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but yes, we will do all we can to bring the game to as many players as possible

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because... this means we can sell more games, and you know, pay the rent and buy food and video games fell_smort

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Last Days on Prometheus

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If I keep soaking the wood in water in valheim will it suddenly break?

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No it will degrade down to 50%

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Or some % I think it's 50. Been a while since I played, and an even longer while that I played without the "everything you build has infinite hitpoints" mod.

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Tis 50%

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or at least proton compatibility

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we'll go down the list of most to least common systems and work our way from there deercat_sadthumbs

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fair enough, take your time I know thereโ€™s a lot on the plate of the studio

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Also good to see that youโ€™re back from when toast killed you

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toast WHAT

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I'm a pirate๐Ÿคญ

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we don't speak of that occasion

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What game is this?

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stalker and mod gamma

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2605790/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Rogue_Core/

OMG YES
This was just announced. I'm so hyped for it ๐Ÿ˜

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Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core

DEEP ROCK GALACTIC: ROGUE CORE is a spinoff of Deep Rock Galactic with a roguelite twist. The roguelite twist means you start from basics in each mission and cooperatively build up powers and abilities for the team, sometimes leading to insanely overpowered builds and other times to spectacular flops.STORYExpenite, a new mineral of incredible va...

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@finite saffron have you seen this?

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Ye :) I hope it ends up being good, because I love DRG and I love roguelites

but at the same time I am a little nervous since I know GSG is owned by Embracer group, and Embracer group has been... sketchy lately to say the least. Lots of layoffs, studio closures, financial trouble, etc.

Part of me worries that GSG is being pressured to start churning out these games, especially since in their blog post they said they had to majorly delay the next DRG update to make this game happen.

I find it a little fishy that a studio that was formerly so conservative with their development is suddenly churning out 3 sequels at once for their IP ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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True. I've been following the whole Embracer drama. Hard to know if it was something planned (expanding their IP) or it was really something they are being "forced" to do.

I can only hope for the best. GSG have been utterly amazing so far

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If embracer wasn't involved I would have complete faith in them, but given that two of the sequels are a roguelite and a vampire survivors clone, which have both been pretty notorious "easy money" games in the last few years, I will admit I'm a little worried. Seems uncharactaristic for them given their past behavior.

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Though they're just publishing DRG survivors, so I won't read into that one as much.

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Hmm, you're right about that ๐Ÿค”
Time will tell

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# dusky quarry nevr heard of it, it looks amazing, whats the game about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30E0MQsUsqc&ab_channel=OperatorDrewski

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The Game That Doesn't Fake Survival

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really fun game. modpack is made easy asfk to install and you can even mod the modpack which is nice. add better graphic mods and hd model npcs etc. its a alice in modland game haha

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@finite saffron you like mortal combat?

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Never got that into side scrolling fighting games actually, but I like the fatality animations lol

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lol

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been meaning to show this in passing deercat_derp this is only half the house, there's a mirrored portion on the other side, technically shaped like a cross

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This game is bootiful #ACMirage

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Anyone check out ZSGO?

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It's so much fun

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Free demo right now

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Or foundry if you want satisfactory but as an voxelgame

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Yes

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I like the style I forget what it's called

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There's base building too

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I always called it lego low budget style lol

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Lol

desert tusk
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It does look like it could be fun, but I already played the hell out of 7D2D and I don't see anything different from that

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Yeah it's a free demo probably not for long might be the buffer you need while you wait on enshrouded

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I've been playing Sunkenland

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Not free, but cheaper than McDonalds.

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That games fun too... killed everything though

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Yeah, they did add some more POIs last week, but it does need a lot more time to develop

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Ya

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i like those armor piece Wolcen should perfect for Enshrouded thicked steel armor!

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@finite saffron

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trying some goobertastic spooptober things for night stand/light decorations deercat_sadthumbs

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Ah~ chaos and death~

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Pretty good game~ But it is NEXON. Bad things waiting this game in future~

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That's why I'm playing it on start - it usually best time for nexon game~

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Mabinogi also not bad is you look at surface~

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But it is shadow of what it was before

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Also tacticool heavy knight in camo colors with bunny head - ridiculously good looking

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lool

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Once of my Favorite Game is Skyrim. It's an old Game, but you have many Way's to play. Also Enshrouded you have many Way's and make the Game to your Game.โค๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ƒ fell_hype

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I don't think I'd ever heard of Skyrim before

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Pirate ~

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NORDstrom

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I'd like to see in Enshrouded same 1st person view mode like there. It much more suitable for crafting/building. And 3rd person view better for combat

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Is that modded conan exiles

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Yes

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NOOOOOO -

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it's another escort a cart quest

I only realized last year you could hit the ox and it would go way faster. That early DD mission makes me dread replaying the game

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I like how in 2023, we have a pretty good idea about game design and kind of break it down into a science, but some devs are still like "Here's an escort mission"

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or "here, this you need to follow NPC is walking slowly and you get to walk either slightly faster or slightly slower, have fun"

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Well, I don't think escort missions are inherently bad. They certainly are at the lowest level, but all quests kind of are if you boil them down to the lowest possible form

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Escort missions aren't exactly "bad" game design, just extremely lazy. It's a very simple way to force the player to sit around for some dialogue or story while still giving them "something" to do, which is why so many quest heavy open world games still use them even after people say they don't like them.

I'm sure the devs probably know how to make better quests, but when your big open world mmo or whatever it is has hundreds if not thousands of quests, eventually you probably run out of ideas ๐Ÿ˜…

Also yeah I've definitely seen fun escort missions in games, if they're done right. A lot of them are pretty bare minimum though

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escort missions in helicopters or planes are kinda cool :)

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What escort missions have you enjoyed?

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I could imagine an escort mission like the caravan picture above where they're like "keep your eyes peeled" but there are actually signs leading up to an ambush that you can pick out if you're paying attention, and maybe you capture glipmses of enemies in the trees or whatever. The problem is that you don't usually get those things and when the inevitable ambush happens it's like "okay, now it's time to play the game"

magic willow
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I mean escort missions where you're following an NPC or the NPC is poorly following you I think is bad, but if you're in a car driving and the NPC is next to you talking is fine

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Had a good time escorting a lost whale to its mom in Dave the Diver recently ๐Ÿคฃ

finite saffron
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I find a lot of ARPGs have pretty solid "escort" missions, usually because the NPCs are designed to keep up with you even if you go fast, and they often give you hoards of enemies to massacre while you do it.

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I really dislike when a game has the character youโ€™re following walking faster than your character walks but slower than your character sprints. Like why arenโ€™t we the same pace?! Lol happened in Starfield most recently for me

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Yeah I think escort missions should either be designed to keep up with the pace of the player, or they should be slow for a specific reason (like, for example being vulnerable in some way and you have to defend them from enemies).

But when they're slower than you can sprint and literally nothing is happening... Torture.

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yeah, for sure

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Such torture

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An escort mission can be fine if the NPC is just following you, and just teleports when he falls behind, but there are some missions in some games where you're just following this slow dude.... then all of a sudden he'll turn around and sprint back to a point where we were supposed to get attacked so he can be attacked and the game just choked on the timing xD

rose sandal
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Hahaha omg meanwhile youโ€™re left in the middle of the crossfire

finite saffron
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Yeah it's a lot more fun when the NPC follows you, not the other way around. The only exception is chase missions I guess, which can be fun if they're actually challenging. Lots of games with vehicles do those and they can be fun

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Though I find they're often way too easy and you just kinda end up doing an escort mission with dramatic music lol

magic willow
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A certain youtuber likes to complain about trailing missions, but I think they're fine lol

finite saffron
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I like chase missions when you can actually catch the enemy with your own skill, though a lot of them are very artificial and won't let you catch them until the story allows it, which can feel like a waste of time

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Yeah, that's always super frustrating

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"Can't do it because plot" is generally a bad thing

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I think it's comical when you're trailing someone, he turns around so you quickly do something to blend in with the environment and it's so obvious you're following him and he's like "Must've been my imagination" lol

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Thief 2 vibes ๐Ÿ˜

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the problem with trailing in Assassins Creed is that you circumvent any challenge by going on roof tops, but that has it's own entertainment value

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Feel like a ninja, and now that I say the word ninja, it occurs to me that there are not enough games about being a ninja

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It's even funnier when the character does actually spot you and starts getting angry or scared or whatever, but you hide in a bin for 3 seconds and they snap back into their walking animation as if nothing happened and they don't feel threatened at all

magic willow
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and most of them are action games >:(

finite saffron
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Tbh I partly blame the "hours as a metric of good" group of gamers. I've seen a lot of games that realistically probably should have just been like 20-40 hours of content, padded out to like 100 with very boring time wasting quests

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New Assassins Creed has a samurai and a ninja as protaganists though >:)

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A stealther ninja game would be pretty amazing, but yeah, most of the ones I can think of are very actiony

finite saffron
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Some of my favorite games are quite short, Iron lung for example. I beat that game in like 90 minutes lol

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Anybody else check out the Thoumaturge demo?

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That's gonna be a good one

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Also for colony sim fans check out Norland. It's rimworld meets game of thrones and its so good. Not sure if the demo is still available. I got lucky with a key during a stream so I got an unlocked demo I can still play that will roll in to the early access

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I'm okay with extremely long average games

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it's video game mcdonalds :)

finite saffron
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I like long games as long as the content feels justified, but these days I don't really have the time to sit through excessive grinds or filler quests so I generally avoid those kind of games

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I think a lot of those games you don't actually have to engage in the grind or filler parts, but I guess it depends on your definition of filler

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im playing AC Origins at the moment which is one of these games and there's heaps of Exclamation points on the map and im ignoring most of them xD

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Yeah agree with that. Like Starfield has a bunch of filler quests that I love but you can also just mainline the main quest and be done in 20ish hours

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I think what they should do is distinguish between these quests, because the main quest is the main quest, and it's all pretty solid, but there are also some pretty decent side quests that have their own story line and are quite long and eventful

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but then there was this one time I had to carry a drunk to a temple, and take his place in a play

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Great idea, thatโ€™s how Iโ€™ve seen it done in good games with lots of quests, like Zelda and Starfield. They have separate quest categories

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Oh do you mean they should highlight those stand out quests?

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Starfield is an exception and can have as much filler content as it wants, I want more of it, and I make this exception for bethesda games, because the closer they feel to real life, the better, I want those games to be simulations

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I want to pay taxes in starfield, just so I can evade them, but in space

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I remember cyberpunk had that issue, somebody pointed out that some of the most fun quests in the game were side quests, but they were buried under a mountain of filler quests and you couldn't tell them apart

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I played cyberpunk recently, the filler stuff is clearly labeled "NCPD Scanner" and "Gigs"

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I know Starfield had a similar issue in a different vein too, where it had cool places to explore, but not enough so the procedural generation would spit out the same ones over and over.

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but all the stuff that had a exclamation point on the map was pretty good

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# tepid wadi I know Starfield had a similar issue in a different vein too, where it had cool ...

Im still enraged by the procedural stuff in starfield, and it goes for a lot of the features in starfield, where they show glimpses of the fact that they are capable of doing something, but elect to not do it.

For example, in sarah's companion quest you land in a canyon and the only way to leave is through a kind of tunnel, as you leave this tunnel, you are both in a dense forest and on a cliff, as you look down from the cliff, there are more levels of verticality and it's all also dense forest, and it's really cool and amazing, and most importantly, it blends in with other tiles

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and I haven't seen anything else in the game remotely as cool as that place ๐Ÿฅน

rose sandal
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Ah damn imma have to do Sarahโ€™s quests in my NG+

magic willow
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so they were indeed capable of making the procedural generation/tile pool look really amazing, but instead it's mostly just generic.... flat.... things

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I already married Sam ๐Ÿคฃ

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My one counter to that point is that it literally looks like barren planets, which is what most of our universe actually looks like haha

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But yeah def some missed marks in there and extremely hidden gems

magic willow
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I mean a lot of the forests look really cool and dense, but there's nothing like the grand canyon or truly amazing geographical terrains, other than that one spot lol

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Oh yeah I see your point

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I found some random ass structures/geography on a random planet that procedurally generated well, but yeah itโ€™s such a hit or miss ( mostly miss) on keeping it dynamic

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That's definitely a procedural generation problem. The general problem with procedural generation is repetition and sameyness. To make it so the player feels good about the random generation, there have to be enough tiles and tilesets so they don't regularly see the same ones over and over. But most games don't have time to make 1000 tiles, they have time to make 30, and then they use them 100 times and it feels real bad.

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But procgen only really feels good if you're constantly discovering new tiles and new things.

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Yeah and Starfield runs into the issue of having 1,000 planets so even if you had 1000 tiles youโ€™re bound to repeat them frequently

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I think if every planet was just generated out of this single tile in sarah's questline, it would've taken longer to notice the repetitiveness

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it was that good lol

tepid wadi
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Exactly. You need to have orders of magnitude more than you can reasonably experience.

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Thing is... it's probably faster to make the same amount of content that feels good manually.

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Haha def feel that. Iโ€™m so excited to see what mods do to the game bc they can totally apply something like โ€œbetter geographical features modโ€ to do just that

tepid wadi
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I'll say that modern No Man's Sky has impressed me a bit more, they've improved the procedural generation signifiacntly since I last played.

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I wish I could take all the power of NMS procedural generation and just make one big planet instead of a giant universe.

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Ah Iโ€™ve gotta dive back into NMS, I played it too early and wasnโ€™t in the mood for what it was laying down. Somehow went with the Planet Crafter instead ๐Ÿคฃ lower bar of entry. Schlocky game but I love it

tepid wadi
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You still kind of learn to "see" the procedural generation, but they've expanded it a bunch to make it more interesting.

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also, starfield cliffs/mountains don't have rocks? but I don't know why they don't because supposedly it's ment to be made up of hand crafted tiles lol

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Iโ€™m hoping that SF is only gonna go up from here in terms of development. Just watched a video of someone playing the original disk version of Skyrim on Xbox (I think?) and would decrease their health bar every time the game crashed/glitched. It was like 5 minutes before they were under half health ๐Ÿคฃ

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yeah, I think starfield is a lost cause in terms of it's quest/story content, but maybe modders can create their own gameplay loops that are fun and interesting

rose sandal
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What do you mean lost cause on quest/story content?

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It's structured weirdly

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Like, I landed on Planet A to do a bunch of quests on Planet A, but all of the quests I got from Planet A are sending me to Planet B through to Z

rose sandal
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Oh yeah I wondered if that would eventually go away after it took me to the major city planets but it did not lol

magic willow
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The Free Star Collective Questline has like... maybe one quest that actually takes place on Akila lol

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I hope someone makes a mod to tell you what things have changed from your base universe in the new game+ universe so you know if you want to explore it or not.

magic willow
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Akila has like 3 or 4 quests lol

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Oh someone made a mod the other day that lets you choose the proc gen seed, so if everyone picked a seed, we'd all see the same stuff

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Fortunately you can usually fast travel from picking up the quest straight to the next planet but yeah itโ€™s weird theyโ€™re like โ€œokay now go to the factory on planet 758, see ya back here for 2 seconds in about 10 minutes before I send you to planet 23โ€

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yeaaah, that's the other thing, the environments are super cool, but because of the fast travel and the boost pack, it doesn't really sink in

rose sandal
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I spend far too much time walking around

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But im okay w it lol

magic willow
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You can buy an apartment in the major cities but there's no real gameplay incentive to do so lol

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A lot of Bethesda's game design and excuse is "You can do it if you want" but like... it wouldn't be that hard to make some of the more useless features in starfield both useful and fun lol

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Like there was a mod for Skyrim that was a big museum where basically every unique item in the game got a display, and you were the curator or whatever, and you got paid for displaying items, so there was both a fun and functional reason to hoard everything like a psycho

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that's a pretty specific example, but I want that in starfield lol

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there's a bunch of "Old World" relics in the game and it's such a shame that you can't open your own museum ๐Ÿฅน

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I'll probably make that mod lol, I'd say it's one of the few idea's i've had that are within my skill set

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But I also use the McMansion as my museum. I spent a few hours the other day placing every misc item Iโ€™d picked up across the universe on shelving units in the living room

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Lol yes Iโ€™m an old man and took pics on my phone instead of screenshots (which I also took)

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But itโ€™s just because I wanted to send a text to my bf showing it off ๐Ÿคฃ

acoustic ruin
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You hoarder. I used player. Modav to increase my carry weight lol

magic willow
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I wish there was a system for placing items, doing it manually seems like pain lol

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Looks like modded Conan Exiles

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Yeap it modded Conan Exiles

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Glitched Hunter's Bow in Dawnlands. Hill is hoverin' ๐Ÿ˜‹

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# strong merlin

this sunkenlands? I killed all npcs and assumes the game was over for now

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Never saw a sea monster

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So... turns out Lords of the Fallen that launched today also requires 6GB VRAM and is getting hit pretty hard by negatives on Steam, surrounding poor graphical performance and possible Studio lies about Multiplayer. We may very well see by 2024 few of any games that will operate on GPU's with less than 6GB. I'm not certain that's a good thing because it (could) just be because Studios aren't spending the time to optimize their game (cough STARFIELD cough) and just pushing them out relying on gamers with big wallets and even bigger GPU's to play them.

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Well it is 2023, with how technology is constantly improving, so will the quality and mechanics of games being made. I understand people being frustrated by not being able to try a game out, however at some point in time they are going to have to realize that it's time for an upgrade. Maybe not their entire computer, may only need a new GPU that will be compatible for their respective motherboard. Optimization is a factor I will agree, though as long as tech in game development keeps improving, that will continuously raise the minimum standards for computer systems in order to play games.

autumn sleet
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And long gone are the days of John Carmack where they had NO choice bu overly optimize everything or they couldn't make the game they wanted to with the tech of that day.

lunar flame
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I've swapped that out for a Ryzen 3600 now, so much better suited.
Enshrouded plays really quite well.

sturdy minnow
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Anyone here playing Albion Online?

acoustic ruin
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So many demos, only 2 days left, possibly

strong merlin
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OG gamers remember.

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How about Michael Jordan VS Larry Byrd by Tyger Electronics

acoustic ruin
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Oh boy, they've remade star ocean the second story. That brings back post high school memories.

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# tepid wadi We need AAA studios to stop focusing so much on graphical fidelity. It doesnt ma...

I totally agree. The problem is, it's like a DPS Meter, everyone wants the next thing to have MORE DEEPS and so each time a new game comes out they're often trying to one-up the last game of their genre. It's stupid but kind of the times we live in. I'll take an amazing story with average graphics all day over something that looks like CP2077 but plays like LotR Gollum. Granted it's also kind of CDPR's fault (in a good way) in making CP2077 & The Witcher 3 so outstanding that they've become the benchmark that most Studios can't achieve.

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Yeah sadly I blame capitalism, everything has to be bigger and better and more expansive, but that means its more expensive to make and has to sell more copies or its a failure... its just spiraled beyond where we can sustain it.

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lunar flame
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Nein

full acorn
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English please, I want to be part of the conversation deercat_sadthumbs

magic willow
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they were talking about big chungus

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Sounds believable

acoustic ruin
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One of the Demos for next fest I tried, attempted to install nProtect.. I noped out of that before it finished..

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What's nProtect @acoustic ruin ?
I don't remember hearing about that before

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I tried Anger Foot demo and it was awesome. Super stylish and fun gameplay if you like fast FPS

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I'm not sure if I'd be willing to install it with the purchased game let alone just a demo

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Just like I don't like to buy games with denuvo

strong merlin
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Denuvo is just a commercial virus.

craggy wing
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Aahh, I see. Thanks for letting me know @acoustic ruin. I'll make sure to stay away from it

acoustic ruin
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It was called quantum knights

craggy wing
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Ah, I saw that one. Didn't grab my attention, tbh

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Have you tried Anger Foot, though? :D

acoustic ruin
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Never even heard of that one

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It's not a big deal, it's just not the most efficient anti-cheat out there

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People make bigger fits out of things than is really warranted

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acoustic ruin
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On the other hand any game that needs an anti-cheat I'd probably don't want to play, unless I can play it on GeForce now.

native anvil
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For all those taht like base building and want a game to play thill this comes out and u enjoyed ark look in to Dark and Light on steam its a ark game but instead of dinos it its fantasy with magic and sword and bord with much better melay fighting then ark ...... for those taht cant play this dimo come join me lol

crimson sinew
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man, im pissed. i havent played eso in forever, a friend of mine started up again and i wanted to see what it was like now. naturally i couldnt remember my login, so i tried to recover... but there was no evidence whatsoever that my previous account even existed. no emails, no card purchases, no registration reminders, nothing. i checked every email that ive used in a decade, nothing. so now i have to start over from scratch after losing the credentials to a beta-test account...

untold lynx
full acorn
untold lynx
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๐Ÿ‘ด

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thank u

strong merlin
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Peak gaming was when consoles couldn't even go online. Still had online pc gaming, but it was a different beast back then.

full acorn
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HHaha I didn't even see that response earlier CUB. I'll be there before long. Its a blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.

crimson sinew
full acorn
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Its better than nothing, feel free to keep us updated on how it goes deercat_sadthumbs

trim yoke
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Wife is excited for Cities Skylines 2, but not on console yet, so she's going to play on my PC while I give space skyrim another go on her console.
That's fair right?

reef bobcat
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Seems reasonable

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๐Ÿคฃ

untold lynx
whole nacelle
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Try out Bannerlord 2 :3

reef bobcat
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Who else is playing Spiderman 2? ๐Ÿ•ท๏ธ Havenโ€™t seen a single spoiler or video, so Iโ€™m excited to dive in!

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crimson sinew
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Ey... I may be able to get my old ESO back. It was a bit of a tug of war, because my memory of the time is spotty at best, but customer support said they found an account that matches my description... yay.

frosty swallow
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LOL what the hell are they doing

proven verge
# untold lynx ๐Ÿ‘ด

Don't Worry... Eve online hadn't even been thought about when I was in univeristy ๐Ÿ™‚ Heck... the internet wasn't even there. Dial-up BBS all the way Baby!!!!!

untold lynx
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love that we've got so many actual gramps in this community. I'm hoping for at least one curmudgeonly outburst a day fell_love

shut osprey
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I feel old but I know Im not

heavy isle
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I'm old enough to modem noises followed by "You got mail"

keen island
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lbr, there are only two ages: before your back start to hurt with no reason whatsoever and after that

tepid wadi
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At level 35, you are granted a random physical debuff. If your debuff isn't immediately obvious, see a doctor.

acoustic ruin
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That's right around when I got glasses.

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Also, I haven't really played Eve since like 2007. Ship spinning and spreadsheets

lunar flame
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Ahh, Spreadsheet Simulator.

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I have to maintain a spreadsheet for SWTOR, but only to track the crafting skill levels on all my characters.

acoustic ruin
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I tried like six games during the next fest and this and one other were the only one that ate my brain. The crust is basically Surviving Mars but on the moon.

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I'm not sure when the last time I played swtor was.. when it went free to play I think.

lunar flame
acoustic ruin
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Shit I hit level 45 next year. How did that happen? I just got used to being 42.

lunar flame
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I'll be 45 on Wednesday..
My dad bought me a bike. ๐Ÿ˜

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I know that will be a struggle for the first few weeks.

acoustic ruin
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My mid life crisis is that my GF wanted children so here I am with a crotch goblin who is made up of insanity and tornadoes.

lunar flame
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Wife left me with 2 bunnies.. a constant source of stress with the hours I work.

acoustic ruin
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I'm somewhat glad that this game does not work well on my hardware or I would have played far too much of the demo.

lunar flame
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Plays pretty well on my rig, but I'm stuck at 1080p.

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I'm getting my desk moved into my temporary room today, so I can finally set up my PC. ๐Ÿ˜

acoustic ruin
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I only have a 1060, so i get crashes in combat and the shroud.

tepid wadi
lunar flame
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Oof.. I recently went from 1050 Ti to a 2060, so I'm doing ok.

keen island
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my friend and i had this idea for an rpg a few years ago, where there are all this regular fantasy classes to choose and then there's class "failure" which is a substitute for higher difficulty. you don't get perks from levelling, you just need to pick a permanent debuff each time. good ol times

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she works in gamedev now, so i guess there's a chance to see this system in work one day lol

untold lynx
timber prism
reef bobcat
warm sinew
timber prism
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Nice! I heard its like Super Mario World vibes and that was one of my favorites

full acorn
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Gamescom... ๐Ÿฅฒ

lone totem
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lostark

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come

quartz agate
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hello

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@frosty swallow

lone totem
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whats your jov

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b

quartz agate
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im blade

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what you?

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@์ฃผ์šฐ๋„ˆ

lone totem
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im destroyer

quartz agate
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@lone totem

frosty swallow
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i did play it for a little bit as the one with the gun

quartz agate
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oh!

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lololo

lone totem
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gungun

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bang bang

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lol

quartz agate
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devil hunter

lone totem
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Gunslinger

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?

quartz agate
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cool

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lol

lone totem
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lol

frosty swallow
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gunslinger

lone totem
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wow

quartz agate
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wow

lone totem
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under bood

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doob

quartz agate
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us sever?

lone totem
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omg

quartz agate
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i play kr sever

lone totem
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kr slaver

quartz agate
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kr blade is good

lone totem
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kr server

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slayer

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wow

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lol

keen island
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when we wait for full release of enshrouded, i started a evil run of bg3 (as a priestess of lolth) but not sure if i like it ๐Ÿค” i usually don't do evil runs, but bg3 has so many different options i wanted to try it out

tepid wadi
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I also dont usually do evil runs because being mean makss me feel bad. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

stray phoenix
stray phoenix
keen island
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i want to romance minthara on this run, bcos it might be the only time i ever recruit her, as it's either her or karlach and halsin, so even simple maths win lol

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but i decided not to even recruit gale and wyll, they'd shame me into doing good things. the rest of the companions will be fine about being evil

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hm, should i spoiler the bg3 stuff? this game was out since august

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but yeah, i usually don't enjoy evil runs, but also im the type of person who replays an rpg with the exact same character, having exact same decisions multiple times

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this time i really try to roleplay as this Always Chaotic Evil character and i guess see if i get more into it or give up

stray phoenix
untold lynx
keen island
untold lynx
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I've read there are ways to keep most goody two shoes bar for Halsin

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without mods

keen island
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i know theres a way to have all 3, but it's very much an exploit, and missing a lot of exp, bcos its basically abandoning some quests, as far as i checked it. (idk if they patched it or not)

untold lynx
keen island
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ah, i see, i didn't know about this one ๐Ÿค” tho still looks like losing quite a lot of exp (damn, i feel greedy XD)

timber prism
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@reef bobcat

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reef bobcat
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Steelbook is banger as well.

timber prism
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Yeah.. im super happy about how it came out

mental anchor
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anyone play lens island

craggy egret
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@autumn sleet do you play other games that you use mods for?

autumn sleet
craggy egret
whole nacelle
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/261550/Mount__Blade_II_Bannerlord/

Steam
Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

The horns sound, the ravens gather. An empire is torn by civil war. Beyond its borders, new kingdoms rise. Gird on your sword, don your armour, summon your followers and ride forth to win glory on the battlefields of Calradia. Establish your hegemony and create a new world out of the ashes of the old.Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord is the eagerly a...

Price

$49.99

Recommendations

179033

Metacritic

77

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frail adder
frail adder
lunar flame
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Still too much money for my liking.

whole nacelle
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stil i have 123 units in army but i get more in skill growing up to 1000 unit

crimson sinew
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no mans sky is on sale now i think...? or is it still too much? could have ended, it was a couple days ago when i saw it

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yeah, sale is over

lunar flame
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ยฃ50 for a game that old.. nah.
I can wait.

acoustic ruin
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Wow. 7 years old now. Time flies. It was never pretty but it is fun, I'd probably wait for a 50% sale on it though.

tepid wadi
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NMS these days is really fun, its come a looong way from when it launched.

craggy egret
tepid wadi
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I was going to wait for some of my friends to get starfield to get their opinions before I bought it. And then... only one of them even got it, which was telling.

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And then everyone picked up NMS again, and so I joined them

acoustic ruin
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Starfield is a Bethesda game, it requires 3 years and 100s of mods. Generally the game was.... ok

cursive birch
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I built the computer I am on for Starfield... I returned it shortly after purchase. Biggest disappointment I have experienced in gaming/technology ๐Ÿ˜„

tepid wadi
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Reminds me of this

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lunar flame
fervent gate
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For fans BG3, i make this for my friend on happy birthday

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keen island
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that looks so cool!

honest valley
tepid wadi
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Not necessarily, just give us 2-4 player co-op. That's all anyone wants

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That's all they wanted from multiplayer skyrim AND fallout

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Also, multiplayer space games have the highest potential, if you're all crewing a ship with different jobs and stuff? So many awesome possibilities

lunar flame
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Oh, absolutely

strong merlin
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Been having fun playing The Front.

acoustic ruin
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This and The Crust were my two favorite demos. It's like Surviving Mars crossed with Satisfactory.

twilit sand
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While you're all waiting for Early Access - if you just enjoy crafting and gathering, and enjoy punishing yourself - I highly recommend Wurm Online. You will walk away from that game with the focus and ability to spend days, weeks, months - gathering. Just to build a small cottage in a medieval setting.

oak sapphire
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7d2d is another fun survival, craft, building game. They have a similar voxel shape / material building system as enshrouded.

https://youtu.be/bQW5-ect8lM?feature=shared

YouTube
WaywardEko
What You Don't Know about Shapes in Alpha 21! - 7 Days to Die

For this video I went into full on research diving through code and spending countless hours understanding all the new Alpha 21 shapes, doors, and hatches. I'll share my findings with you, teach you how to leverage the new blocks, and show you my crazy new castle build called Bloodmoon Keep!

DOWNLOAD Bloodmoon Keep & Shape POI via my Patreon: ...

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covert grove
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As an aside...I hate YouTube videos that have titles containing stuff like 'What You Don't Know" "What You Need To Know" "What You Are Doing Wrong" "Did You Mess Up?" and so on and so on. Hehe, sorry its Monday ๐Ÿ˜›

reef bobcat
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i want a nice mmorpg game but cant find any

slender yew
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Very much a different niche, but for any of you who likes Star Wars, flying spaceships, and space combat games with suprisingly deep flight mechanics, I'd recommend Star Wars Squadrons. Great video on it here: https://youtu.be/IJVL3Cs0mUs
Long story short, it was a passion project by a few devs that EA supported for a really short time, so now it seems to be dead on terms of player count and public queues. But actually it's got a great community keeping it going, and we organise weekly events so that everyone can get more multiplayer games going. It's regularly on sale for extremely cheap. Feel free to discuss or DM if you're interested!

YouTube
MinusInferno
Star Wars: Squadrons Was Done Dirty :(

#starwarssquadron #starwars #gaming

Hey Guys

Here's my thoughts on Star Wars Squadrons.

Thank you for watching

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pale adder
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Guess its time to check in and see how Sunkenland has been doing...

oblique flint
pale adder
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Not bad, they fixed allot of issues they had earlier. Its not a voxel game by any means, its more inline with survival then say Enshrouded is. Build function is kinda crude still.

oblique flint
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Hmmm maybe ill try it haha

oblique flint
pale adder
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Yeah, you can play it online. Still kicking the wheels on it, not sure its going to satisfy my Enshrouded itch until EA. Might look to see if there is another voxel build game, not really feeling
even though I played allot prior to Enshrouded, not feeling Vrising either...

shut osprey
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it all varies person to person

lunar flame
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Soylent Cola..

reef bobcat
shut osprey
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still not enough info being provided

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like I said

reef bobcat
reef bobcat
finite saffron
reef bobcat
reef bobcat
finite saffron
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Mostly just depends on what style you like, there's a lot of different types of mmorpgs so it's hard to recommend anything specific.

reef bobcat
whole nacelle
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/721700/Holomento/

Steam
Holomento

Holomento is an Indie Permadeath Action-RPG focusing on the dangerous quest of passing through the mysterious Eventide Hollow โ€“ and rebuilding it step by step.A horrible curse was laid upon the land and Eventide Hollow fell into despair. The source of the curse was also its only protection from itโ€ฆ the Holomento.The Holomento traps the souls of ...

Price

$19.99

Recommendations

130

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muted osprey
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New World is a very good game now too

peak marsh
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IDK, I kinda agree with the people who call it soulless

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Like, it's quality and it's come a long way from it's rough beginnings, but it still feels very... surface level

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IMO anyhow, as with most things take me with a grain of salt and make your own mind up. It's definitely not bad

peak marsh
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What do you like?

oblique flint
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Any games like Enshrouded with Nice building system an online??

tepid wadi
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Not that we know of. Minecraft is probably your next best bet.

oblique flint
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Other than MC haha

peak marsh
tepid wadi
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I dunno why, but I've never been able to fet into The Forest's building system, maybe it just always feels so cumbersome.

oblique flint
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well maybe

quaint cosmos
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I just saw Lord of the Rings: Return to Moria gameplay trailer, because it releases tomorrow, but it reminds me of a simpler version of Enshrouded. There is no shrouded mist ofc, but the gameplay shows a squad of dwarves venturing deep into a mine.

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Btw, games that may be similar to Enshrouded and still coming up someday for release are "Nightingale (single/co-op)" and "Elements (single player only)."

patent fiber
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I played Ashen a few years ago which had similar dark vibes. It is a souls like game, however. You can team up with a friend but it doesn't have any building. I liked the character design as it is unique. I don't think it was very popular so it may not be for everyone

iron musk
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!DEMOFAQ

modern gyroBOT
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Frequent Demo Issues/Questions

โ€œI canโ€™t find my friends serverโ€

  • Try setting each of your your download regions to the same
  • Steam > Settings > Downloads

โ€œ8 hours?โ€

  • The 8 hour timer is per world save, once it is up you can take your character to a new world!

โ€œHow do I find metal scraps?โ€

  • Bandits and bandit structures can drop it.

โ€œGraphics system couldnโ€™t be initializedโ€, โ€œNo compatible device foundโ€ & โ€œStuck on loading shadersโ€

  • If you are using a AMD processor with integrated graphics and NVIDA graphics card reinstall/update the drivers for both and you should fix your issue.
  • If you do not have an integrated graphics processor, update/reinstall your GPU drivers.

โ€œGraphics memory too lowโ€

  • The demo currently requires at least 6GB of VRAM to function. At the moment you can ether try using a better graphics card or wait for further optimization during early access.

โ€œIโ€™m crashing a lot with a Nvidia 10 series GPUโ€

  • There's currently a bug causing some of these to crash a lot.
    The devs are aware and it is being looked into!
  • If you are experiencing crashes on any system read #i-need-help .

If you need further help please read #i-need-help , then if you still donโ€™t have an answer ask in #troubleshooting .

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frail adder
scarlet needle
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Anyone try Return to Moria yet? Debating on it. One thing, Enshrouded sure has made non voxel based games a second guess for me lol. Combat hard to live up to Enshrouded as well.

tepid wadi
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I'm currently playing Return to Moria. Combat is substantially worse than Enshrouded.

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We're still in the early phases, but the game seems alright overall. If you're a big LOTR fan, you'll probably enjoy it.

scarlet needle
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Apparently the one dev said it was best in genre according to one content creator, but after watching playthroughs I was seriously doubting it.

tepid wadi
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Well, it's certaintly the best LOTR survival game.

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But... it's also the only one that I'm aware of

scarlet needle
tepid wadi
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But if you're considering survival games in general? My initial impressions of Valheim and Enshrouded were muuuch better.

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Like, I watched Valheim for like 5 minutes and was like "I'm in"

grizzled junco
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Dont think I even waited the 5 mins ๐Ÿ˜‰

tepid wadi
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Movement and combat feels a bit awkward, character/enemy animations feel super basic, some of the crafting functionality seems kinda off

scarlet needle
tepid wadi
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Feels like they're kind of going for valheim progression, where you craft gear and stuff and that prepares you for the next zone. Then you craft gear and stuff from that zone and it propels you forward further. But... there's no "skill" system like in valheim, so you don't actually feel like your character is improving in any way.

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And that makes it feel a little... hollow?

scarlet needle
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But the skill points in Enshrouded didn't give that? But yes a way that using a skill reduces stam without use of SP would be cool

tepid wadi
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No, I'm talking about Moria

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Skill points in Enshrouded are great

scarlet needle
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Ah I see, yes for sure

tepid wadi
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I'm not really comparing it to Enshrouded, just the like "initial first impressions", like playing Enshrouded for like 10 minutes I had a much better feeling about the game than I do about Moria

scarlet needle
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All based on equipment progression

scarlet needle
tepid wadi
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Yeah, and that doesn't really make your character feel good over time I think. In valheim it made death matter because you could lose skills, but I'm not sure what the death penalty in Moria will be.

scarlet needle
tepid wadi
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Yeah, harsh or no it makes you concerned about death

scarlet needle
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Yep

tepid wadi
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But I'm not sure what the death penalty could be like in Moria, maybe a debuff?

scarlet needle
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Ya not sure... But if no progression outside of better equipment, I guess is is a mute point.

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Do they have a hardcore mode in it?

tepid wadi
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Indeed. We'll see. I'll give it a few hours more before I make a for sure call for recommendation, but it hasn't wowed me so far like Enshrouded did

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Nope, no world difficulties or anything. It seems like depth is going to be a mechanic, but I'm not sure how that'll work

scarlet needle
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Ah I see, thanks for the info. Probably hold off until I "need" something before Enshrouded or at least Ashland's ๐Ÿ‘.

timber prism
scarlet needle
timber prism
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i dunno... everything i personally have played looks much better than this

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XD

quaint cosmos
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Def.

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Valheim did better with skill lost prevention n resources, but i hope it gets done soon and have achievements or something.

autumn sleet
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LotR: Mines of Moria is soooo bad. You spawn all the way back at the beginning every time you die. Combat is terrible and you can barely kill the 1st Goblins you encounter with the crap Axe you can craft (up to and including the 1st "Base"). Everything is slow and chunky. Great concept, horrible execution.

quaint cosmos
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is there even dodging in Moria? Since I didn't see anything, I already knew it was not my kind of game.

tepid wadi
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There is technically dodging, but blocking costs no stamina and is 360 degrees and always blocks all damage, so... not really worth trying to dodge

quaint cosmos
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that's too simple

tepid wadi
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After playing enshrouded, Moria's combat feels real lackluster.

quaint cosmos
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yeah, lol. I think Valheim had great combat mechanics. The parry in Valheim gave a huge window and was really generous. The games I like more are games with skill levels or skill trees (something we keep as a character, not equipment-based), and I thought Enshrouded had a better system for skills and abilities. I like the fact that you can choose double jump and/or last longer in the shroud, and because of that, I plan to grind my skill levels more to have a nicely built character before joining friends.

tepid wadi
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Yep, for this sort of game a good combat system makes the game feel miles better. It's super important to get that "feel" down. Enshrouded definitely nails it pretty well, but Moria's combat feels very clunky so far.

quaint cosmos
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The characters look stiff, and when I saw the 13 minute gameplay from IGN, they only took down 2 monsters and spent the rest of the time jumping down the hole. It was a waste of time and the footsteps were super annoying.

delicate shard
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Thank you guys for the run down on moria as i nearly bought it today to give me something to do until Enshrouded was released but i dont think i will bother now

quaint cosmos
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If you haven't tried, Valheim is a better experience. Explore and collect everything.

delicate shard
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how is the building side of Valheim

quaint cosmos
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besides fall damage, building can be important because of the rested bonus, similar to Enshrouded. The houses always look great, but you have structural integrity, meaning the higher you build, the less stable the build, and you can't build past the dark red zone. Another important note, is that there are better materials in the future gameplay, where you can build further and bigger.

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And smoke from the fire can cause your character to suffocate (slow poison damage), so remember to have proper ventilation. Keep an eye on your cooking, and if you think you have enough wood to build, you don't.

tepid wadi
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Yeah, my only gripe with valheim's building is that it take too long to get more building materials and there isn't that much variety. It starts to get really good when you get into the stone/iron era though, you can build some rad stuff

quaint cosmos
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this was the best house I ever built for myself. I'm not a builder, and I used youtube videos for tips on design.

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You can't build tunnels in Valheim either, but you can dig holes. There is a digging limit and terraforming height limit.

keen island
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this is a base i build with a friend based on a building we found on yt (plains castle i think was the name, if anyone wants to check out), a bit modified

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and here's a much less impressive base i build for myself. but that's pretty much as far as you can go witout cheesing structural integrity

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but i enjoy building in valheim very much, it's fun. you do have to grind the materials quite a lot. (i did gather all the resources for those two buildings, but if you're just into building, there's also a hammer mode, where you can build with no enemies, and not needing resources)

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i was eyeing the moria game at first (i'm not a huge tolkien fan, but digging is certainly my thing) but then i saw it's epic exclusive so i lost interest. looks like i dodged some bullet here. (not that i would buy it without seeing some gameplay anyway)

quaint cosmos
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the exclusive part being (not so) free range building?
EDIT: Nevermind, you meant Epic games store.

untold lynx
quaint cosmos
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Thanks! I added a diamond window for quick entry and exits. (Cramped space for high comfort)

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untold lynx
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cozy lol

whole nacelle
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๐Ÿ˜

keen island
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the good ol christmas tree ๐Ÿ‘

livid vessel
short sail
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But it feels sometimes a bit off, clicking for example one flintstone on the floor and have popping like 4 out of it.

tepid wadi
untold lynx
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there is an element of that

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although building an underground lair under an infested mine in the mistlands feels really fun ngl

tepid wadi
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Yeah, for sure. I think the mistlands is beautiful, fog and all. Since they made the monsters not aggro the torches, making an area clear of mist isnt so bad.

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There are just so few overall materials that it feels like it takes forever to not make a generic looking longhouse.

oblique flint
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anyone tried the Lord Of the Rings game??

patent fiber
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Starting tomorrow ๐Ÿ‘€

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Was announced in the Xbox partner video just now

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Definitely liked the closed beta!

misty arch
patent fiber
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"soon" ๐Ÿฅฒ

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Was hoping it would say a date

oblique flint
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

whole nacelle
reef bobcat
misty arch
tepid jungle
whole nacelle
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1064120/Unforetold_Witchstone/

Steam
Unforetold: Witchstone

Experience the living, reactive lands of Kalsundia through unprecedented options to roleplay your character, influence others and set your own goals.Each choice along your journey feeds into a non-linear narrative system that changes relationships and outcomes dynamically. Gone are the days of laborious quest chains as you enter into a freer wor...

Release Date

Coming soon

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As anyone seen this before?

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beside diablo copy

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xD

patent fiber
misty arch
scarlet needle
# autumn sleet LotR: Mines of Moria is soooo bad. You spawn all the way back at the beginning e...

Just got the game last night. Ya the battle system is "different". I like to imagine it does follow along the lines of a dwarfs dexterity though. Being small and clunky frames they wouldn't be jumping circles around enemies. A shield is must as you can shield bash to knock enemies back or on their butts. If you make a bed role you can set spawn point. Once you can make your first sword battles get a bit easier. I agree the fighting is not my cup of tea either. I like to be able to dance and move like a boxer around the enemies to stay alive not just block or basic dodge roll.

tepid wadi
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All my buddies are talking about how good the combat is and I wonder if the combat is so unsatisfying to me because I've experienced Enshrouded's combat. To me it also feels worse than Valheim, but I think it's mostly the animations being less refined looking. Also after playing for a few hours last night, the fact that there's no "Character" progression started to really bother me. Enemies don't drop much loot, so there's actually no real reason to fight most of them

whole nacelle
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i didnt know for now

scarlet needle
# tepid wadi All my buddies are talking about how good the combat is and I wonder if the comb...

Very much agree with progression on character. Right now the game feels like enemies are just an annoyance (really should drop resources that are required to craft equipment). Maybe it will change mid to late game? So far the only thing that drops valuable resources are the passive enemies (deer, lama and rats). Wolves, bears and wolverine things drop same stuff so no point in fighting them if you don't have to.

peak marsh
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Valheim is a great game that I enjoyed a lot. That said, the combat in Valheim is very basic and a little clunky, it just serves in the context

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Though (reading earlier in the conversation), I really liked the structural integrity system and the smoke being a thing. It really made aspects of the building feel more physical and rooted in function. You can't just jam a lit fire in the corner, you have to think practically about it and come up with your own solutions

scarlet needle
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@tepid wadi have you made it to the mine section yet? Get a couple of new stations to tweak gear. Really like the look it does on the gear. ๐Ÿ‘

tepid wadi
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Yeah, the actual mines of moria? The runes are kind of a neat idea, we'll see how they progress as we go.

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I'll probably get my money's worth out of the game, but I don't think it's going to be one that I go back to again and again. I like LOTR, but other games have better feels for me.

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If Ark ASA does indeed come out tomorrow, I'm happy to put Moria down for a bit to let it cook. It feels like if it gets some continued development it could be a real gem in 6-8 months. The lack of dedicated servers is a huge pain.

misty arch
idle prairie
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Whats this ark update ? I thought they were making another game lmao

brittle rune
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its early release just like how ARK:SE was early release when it first came out

idle prairie
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ohhhh, so it is ARk 2? Just a differet name

viscid silo
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it's ark remastered. ark 2 is still to come and will be fairly different.

idle prairie
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๐Ÿ”ฅ

misty arch
autumn sleet
quaint cosmos
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if anyone likes casual exploration/platformer games, Spirits of the North 2 is announced today to release in 2024. It's ok, but short. I spent 8 hours in the game to get all achievements, so its very short.

jolly kiln
amber lagoon
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I tamed the first ever unicorn in ark survival ascended

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oblique flint
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Niceee

tepid wadi
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How is it? Mixed reviews on steam makes me worried that it's going to be another performance mess like Ark was during EA

shadow hemlock
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What Portal Knight island size should I do as a solo
Large or Huge

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I'm seeing medium for solo, but there isn't a medium option

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only normal, large, huge

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I went with huge

tepid wadi
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Bigger maps always better, IMO

hazy tundra
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You just have to go back to where all your stuff is in the chests that you stores and get it all amd move it forward.

tepid wadi
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You can also just leave it at the initial base locaiton with the mapstone and then eventually repair that and teleport everything to your 'main' base.

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I find their stability system for building to be pretty janky, it makes building larger structures kind of awkward.

hazy tundra
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Where do you get the black diamond from, is thar when you get to the mines?

tepid wadi
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Yeah, in the mines you'll find orc encampments. Those will have them.

hazy tundra
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Ok. I've gotten to the elven quarter which has them, just haven't engaged one yet. I will say the game is much better with multiple people playing.

tepid wadi
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Yeah definitely. Solo I think I would've bounced off it in the first hour or two. But with 4 friends playing it's pretty enjoyable.

amber lagoon
tepid wadi
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Fair enoug

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Wildcard just isn't know for their smooth releases ๐Ÿ˜

muted osprey
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Anyone already tried The Lord of The Rings: Return to Moira? Heard it is similar to Enshrouded

quaint cosmos
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@muted osprey IGN rates it a 9/10, but most people that like Valheim and Enshrouded on both discords said Moria is pretty bad.

whole nacelle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUAVRr1V7g i laughed mine ass off this see 2 play XD

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acoustic ruin
patent fiber
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I can imagine defending your base can be difficult or waking up to an raided base would be very frustrating

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The video is funny though, I watched it a few days ago

jolly kiln
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It's a very interesting type of survival game. Instead of eating for extra health like valheim or Enshrouded, you craft armour which allows for more hits. Armour does not reduce DMG just gives extra HP in a way. Picking the right time to rest is also very important as if it is night and you're out more patrols and darkness can become a pretty bad debuff (1HP tick DMG every sec). Pretty basic building like Grounded or Conan. Only 90degree rotation though. Fighting takes some getting used to (shield bash is your friend), definitely feels how I would imagine a dwarf would fight mobility wise. Got to the deep part in the mines so far. My biggest gripe would be there really is no point building a massive base until you at least unlock the mapstone statues and even then maybe not? Very linear game as you have to progress to next area to get better gear anyway.

twilit sand
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BTW - Space Engineers is free to play this weekend and is on sale for 75% for it's 10 year anniversary

autumn sleet
# muted osprey Anyone already tried The Lord of The Rings: Return to Moira? Heard it is similar...

I tried it, hated it, refunded my money. Combat is terrible, you can't just dig anywhere (only extremely specific locations), you spawn all the way back at the beginning every time you die until you get to your 1st Base location, craft a Bed Roll and set it as the spawn point (if you do that before the Goblins show up and kill you). Your 1st Weapon is a shitty axe that does basically no damage and will break MID FIGHT with just a few enemies. The game doesn't explain the creeping darkness well enough so you die a few times to it not realizing wtf you're supposed to do. Graphics are fine, story seemed fine, game concept is fine but I just couldn't.

hardy monolith
shadow hemlock
amber lagoon
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Asas new photomode is lit af

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I could unironically have this as a wallpaper

keen island
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not sure if anyone else here following total war franchise, but man, ca just keeps on delivering. they're delivering more dumpster fire, but still, very entertaining once i just gave up on them and am not waiting with bated breath for any improvements

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they're mass banning ppl on steam forums, and while i don't particularly care about steam forums, apparently when you're banned there, you can't interact with any part of the community, so it really sucks for a the modders who got banned for making fun of ca and now their mods are dead

quaint cosmos
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Toxic devs ๐Ÿ˜‚

keen island
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not really devs fault, it's just the suits. i feel really bad for the devs themselves, bcos they seem to really try to do sth, but with what they got to work with, it's like polishing a shit

neat pike
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Anyone playing sunkenlands?

shadow hemlock
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I'm really sick of how we just let corruption and mishandling of player/userbases/consumers run rampant like it isn't happening

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Just out in the open, these somewhat mainstream and even very popular companies are just... terrible

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My rule is, if you're a corporation, I don't trust you, I don't respect you

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I don't believe any corporate entity is in it for the goodness of things, for our benefit, whatever

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by definition they exist for profit, so why should we believe that they won't betray our trust at some point down the road?

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Thank god that Enshrouded isn't a mass-corporate product

keen island
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yeah, that's certainly true, but also - you'd think they actually want to make mony, right? not repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot with ridiculous pr decisions

shadow hemlock
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(Or an American one, at that)

shadow hemlock
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But Pokemon for example continues to make absurd amounts of profit

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While abusing the trust of fans who just aren't enjoying the garbage they put out these days

keen island
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that's kinda baffles me the most, ca just burned so many bridges these last few months. they are a niche genre, if they piss off a lot of people who'll keep buying their games

shadow hemlock
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They get to have both worlds, and I don't understand why

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yeah

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Well the reason why they get to have both worlds is that the casual consumer masses are basically zombies that are fueled by "good-feeling" hormones

keen island
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they'll have to keep making their games/dlc more expensive to cover the costs and that inturn will piss off even more people, it's a downward spiral

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tbf i feel like the difference between pokemon and total war is that pokemon is really popular and newbie friendly, there will always be ppl getting into those games, meanwhile with total war they're really relying on those smaller but loyal fanbase, bcos it's not a super popular genre. hiking up prices don't seem to be really sustainable, or they'll end up with like, 5 the most hardcore fans with the deepest pockets

shadow hemlock
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right

keen island
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if i were them, i'd at least try to make sure that this loyal fanbase is not rapidly shrinking, but well, i'm not a pr person

shadow hemlock
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I've only played a bit of total war: warhammer ones, not any of the actual ones. I'm assuming that's mostly a different corner of the community with some overlap?

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I feel like it's more of a warhammer thing with the total war gameplay

quaint cosmos
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Pokemon is the same game every release. Idk how its still popular.

shadow hemlock
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It's like how everyone has to have the new iphone every year

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The product from the year before is fine, but if you don't get the annual fixing of "new", you'll have a seizure and go into cardiac arrest

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and that's not an exaggeration. If Gamefreak announced they were going a year or two without any mainline titles, the fanbase would have a nuclear meltdown

keen island
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it kinda started with the prices of warhammer 3 dlcs raising drastically, but the historical side of total war was a mess for a while now, it just kinda boiled over with the bad pharaoh release and hyenas cancellation, bcos now warhammer 3 is the only game that makes money to ca, and it was a dumpster fire ever since it released last year

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like, the games themselves are in a bad state, but the suits just keep on releasing those absolutely unhinged blog posts that make things even worse. if they just put their heads in the sand and pretended nothing happens i don't think people would be quite this mad

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they make an absolutely nonsense blog post and then getting pikachu surprised meme when people make fun of it (and then start swinging the banhammer)

keen island
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it's truly a dumpster fire that keeps on giving

finite saffron
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In all fairness the steam forums are just... terrible. It's a lose lose for developers. If you don't moderate it it's a dumpster fire of pure negativity, no matter how good the game is (look at baldurs gate 3 steam forums if you don't believe me)

If you do moderate it though the management tools provided are so awful that it's basically impossible to manage unless you impose heavy restrictions, which users will also hate.

No idea why steam doesn't let devs disable the feature, they haven't updated it in almost a decade so clearly they don't care about it

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So honestly it doesn't surprise me that a team that tried to control it ended up overstepping and going too far.

keen island
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yeah, i absolutely avoid the steam forums, it's horrible. but also, having a seriously damaged reputation by previous bad pr stunts and then going with banhammer on steam forums - it's just one bad move after another. i feel like just leaving it alone and pretending all is fine would be better

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esp bcos they were closing topics like "i want medieval 3" which yes, shouldn't be there, but also seem like such an overreacting. all in all, if you already have a damaged brand it can only go downhill, bcos ppl start picking up things they would let slide in different circumstances

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(when i was checking bg3 updates the comments were just full of trolls spamming how starfield is better, it was such a cesspool)

frosty swallow
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make me a mod in the steam forums and i will cleen it up LOL ....... JK don't

keen island
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solution: ban everyone. no steam forums for everyone

whole nacelle
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i see pennywise exposive steam and all blame pennywise after big bill lol

frosty swallow
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i like looking on steam forums as some of the things people say is just funny

whole nacelle
patent fiber
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They are sending out invites for nightingale if you guys signed up. They are doing another closed playtest with 10k players

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I got one this time

tepid wadi
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Fingers crossed

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I discovered both Nightingale and Enshrouded around the same time and am pretty hyped for both

patent fiber
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I discovered nightingale a few months before enshrouded

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So I have been in the queue for a year probably

tepid wadi
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I'm looking forward to seeing how their 'realm card' idea plays out. It seems like it has a ton of potential

patent fiber
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Yeah me too!

lunar flame
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I've been spending too much time on Darktide and Vermintide 2. ๐Ÿ˜…

twilit meteor
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I'm waiting on gothic 1 ๐Ÿฅน

tepid wadi
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I've been meaining to pick up Darktide since their latest update, it sounded like it updated the game in some great ways

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Just too much to play lately

oblique flint
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Ello who wanna be a dwarf with me

whole nacelle
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dwarf?

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x3

oblique flint
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The the Lord of the Rings game

whole nacelle
solemn light
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TheFront is... Ok I guess.

whole nacelle
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is like new rust version

quaint cosmos
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I'm not really that big a fan of Rust, but I've seen many videos about it. I never bought it either, because the movement of the characters does not look fluid.

solemn light
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I personally love rust.

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And TheFront is not a new rust ๐Ÿ˜„

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Its more like 7days had a baby with ark.

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And ark was cheating on 7days with conan.

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So no one knows who's the daddy.

quaint cosmos
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is this game really worth it? I put it down and I'm not sure if I should pick it up again.

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craggy wing
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@full acorn Portal Knights mentioned

full acorn
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Woooooo!

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Its picking up now!!

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Yes you should play it again

quaint cosmos
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all right, i'll see if it helps pass time before Enshrouded

honest valley
oblique flint
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Hello

quaint cosmos
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i played more Portal Knights in 1 night, than I did in the span of time that I first bought the game over 2 years ago.

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wow, I didn't realize it's 7am for me. I need to sleep.

craggy wing
oblique flint
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Anyone wanna play Lord of the Rings with me???

gaunt cave
quaint cosmos
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I never played that before

frail adder
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Then they stop updating it and i stopped playing๐Ÿ˜ฅ

frail adder
hexed inlet
twilit meteor
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@hexed inlet ahhh yah๐Ÿฅน

spiral falcon
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For anyone interested, Swords n' Magic and Stuff is an open-world adventure / crafting RPG which is a cozy addition to the genre. It isn't as in-depth in terms of base building as Enshrouded (building options are limited to pre-designed houses and castle building blocks), but it's an early access title that might scratch the itch while waiting for Enshrouded to launch. ๐Ÿ™‚ https://store.steampowered.com/app/810040/Swords_n_Magic_and_Stuff/

pearl mauve
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I quite enjoy playing Len's Island - its a survival with dungeons and building. Not like Enshrouded but its a fun little game to pass the time.

whole nacelle
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/623280/Dungeons__Dragons_Dark_Alliance/

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has anyone tryed it?

quaint cosmos
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No, but I saw one bad review on youtube and stayed away from it since.

tepid wadi
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It seemed like a very generic PvE group game, so I didn't pick it up

echo tangle
whole nacelle
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ah okey bad

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xp

misty arch
frail adder
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Biological horror

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Nms

honest valley
quaint cosmos
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@misty arch thanks for the notice! I'll have to finish collecting as many gear as I can, because I quit that game after getting all achievements. I still have a list of items and alternate kills I need to complete.

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karmic edge
tepid wadi
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I have fond memories of Dungeon Siege 2, which looked a lot less like a mobile game.

short sail
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It ain't much, but for day 5 it's okay.

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neon sleet
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Nearby Necks:
Ooo lovely house to chew.

short sail
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Why should they? Btw. eventually I should reconsider my taste in music.

lunar flame
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Yes... Taylor Swift is awful.

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๐Ÿ˜›

short sail
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Nah... Could post it, but don't laugh.

lunar flame
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I never make fun of people's lack of taste!! smirks

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๐Ÿ˜„

short sail
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๐Ÿ‘€ Somehow I don't trust you.

lunar flame
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That's probably a good idea.

short sail
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Well, for the ones interested:
Actually I've stuck that in my head (and playing in the background while in Valheim. May not suit the theme, but somehow I find it funny to play it in the background while doing a "hardcore"-run.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UmbRrc-Zd4

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And in my opinion Black Gryphon has outdone himself in voice-acting that.

north ore
short sail
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Valheim

north ore
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Thanks

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I bought it myself and forgot about itโ€ฆ๐Ÿซข

short sail
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Funny

brisk hill
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Valheim is good, but Enshrouded looks like an upgrade.

short sail
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I just lower the pain, not being able to play Enshrouded, okay? fell_cry

brisk hill
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I've been thinking of playing Valheim whie waiting, myself. ๐Ÿ˜›

quaint cosmos
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all I do in Valheim is level up my character skills until the next biome releases. At least I'd have an advantage in dealing higher damage.

north ore
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looking forward to this game? the day before

untold lynx
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it's a very cool trailer but I doubt the game will be anything like it

vagrant garnet
lunar flame
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I'm never wrong.

short sail
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So... First house fully done. Time for hunting the big deer!

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untold lynx
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much better with the little wood trimmings on top!

short sail
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First house wasn't even filled. Was a big hole in the middle ๐Ÿ˜…

echo tangle
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mmmm... missin valheim... may be time for a reinstall.... Started playing Smaland with a buddy to scratch the itch.

fair dove
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I started to play Frozen Flame meanwhile - but will immediately stop for Enshrouded.

odd citrus
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I've got a bad feeling, maybe on the day EA of Enshrouded launch, Valheim Ashlands will also release.

hardy pawn
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I've been playing Portal Knights while waiting for Enshrouded.

short sail
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Doubt. Ashlands will from what I heard in the Valheim Discord heard not come out in 2023

quaint cosmos
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is Frozen Flame good? I saw a bit of it and didn't really like it. Plus, the mixed reviews is a huge red flag. In Valheim, I usually just rush it into the 2nd biome and level up a few skills to level 40-50 before fighting the second boss.

whole nacelle
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i play it

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is good some harder get sorta material but is enjoyable

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so worth

quaint cosmos
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is there a skill levels or skill tree in Frozen Flame? Are there permanent stat boosts?

fair dove
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Frozen Flame is fantastic - i cannot understand the red flags, I have a lot of fun. and at mmoga u have to pay only 12 Euro ... dont pay the 30 Euro directly from steam.

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With Frozen Flame they made a good balance between crafting and grinding. and everything makes sense. But I am missing i.e. the slavery system from conan exiles and also the triagle building parts

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but on the other hand, at a certain story mission chain, u have to fly, - and this is really funny

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its more something like gliding like it is in Enshrouded

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The additional skills are organized in circles, but currently not so many available, only tier 0-2, ... tier 3 is prepared but not selectable. I guess at end u will opened the whole skills within these circles

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just concentrate on the mission/quests, they will teach you everything like a tutorial

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btw - i started a dedicated server - feel free to join, just look for Dzanian and connect with the passwort: ..... mmhhh, better whisper me for the password

short sail
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Finalized my Meadows-Outpost.

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Everything from now on will just be "minor" Additions, I guess. Like a Portal or sort of.

karmic edge
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north ore
quaint cosmos
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still creepy. I remember having the radio on while playing this game, so I can hear random music instead of the thumps and clanging in the backgroud.

tepid wadi
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@autumn sleet Bellwright hasn't been in my radar, maybe because it looks like kind of a generic survival game. Low fantasy survival feels like it could be a real challenge to sell to a wide audience at this point. The army stuff sounds neat, but I'm gonna have to see it in action before I'm interested. Enshrouded is much more exciting sounding.

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I think a big thing Enshrouded has going for it is lots of people have tried it out already. Topping the charts in the nextfest is a big deal

autumn sleet
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Mu channel is still too small for Studios to reach out and ask me to play their game... Take that back, I've gotten 1 so far but it wasn't my play style so I declined it.

tepid wadi
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Yeah, I've seen some sponsored videos of Bellwright, but it seems like it's very early/janky, compared to the polish that Enshrouded has shown. Also for a game to really shine at this point, it has to do something unique that isn't really present in other games and I don't see those features in Bellwright (so far). I'll definitely wait for reviews on that one from what I've seen so far.

karmic edge
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A game that captivated me at first sight was "outward", you see the graphics, the setting and it seems great, the problem coming when playing in real life, seems like game without ending or very archaic, similar to happening with "new world", I gave it a chance but I fell asleep playing.

tepid wadi
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Yeah, Outward was a really interesting idea, but I think the dev team was just a bit to small to really realize their goals. I liked the game but also burnt out without really finishing it because it started to feel aimless.

acoustic ruin
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A friend of mine had me buy outward, it feels like playing a game from 2002.

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craggy wing
tepid wadi
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One of the areas of game development that is really interesting to me is capturing the idea of challenge in a way that creates fun experiences. A lot of times when games feel "old", developers have made specific design decisions to mimic games of the past and are trying to chase the idea of a hardcore challenge. Sometimes they find a way to build it in a way that is fun and engaging, but other times it just feels like a game ripped from the past that has lost its joy.

quaint cosmos
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For fun experiences, I also like the journey of putting work into getting stronger and more skillful. Games like Elden Ring was more a memory game when fighting bosses and after that boss, you forget it, unless you play New Game +. Valheim and Dauntless felt better because you had a reason to revisit old areas for old materials. The games with skill trees gives me a goal to improve my character stats and put work to unlock more skills. Somewhat easy to obtain goals are better, than chores where you mindlessly collect hundreds of materials for a quest and nothing else happens.

short sail
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I think I have a moisture problem in my future basement...

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you might be ok during high tide

short sail
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If only I had taken out insurance for water damage fell_cry

merry moat
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Donโ€™t you mean future swimming pool?

short sail
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Psssh. Don't spoiler my future plans for a leisure pool.

quaint cosmos
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hopefully, someday we could modify the water physics

short sail
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I... unfortunately doubt that. You will first try to finally complete the game. I'm even afraid that once it's finished they won't even expand it in any way, since otherwise you can "mod everything".

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But good news! Somehow I defeated water.

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short sail
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It's getting shape. But more of that... tomorrow. Need to work.

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@short sail If you want to manual change no vegetation on PC using regedit. Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\IronGate\Valheim find this entry ClutterQuality_h3068748133, change the value to 0.

Credits: ChainsawFreeFall (reddit user), 2023

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short sail
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Oh. Nice 2 know. But I'm fine at it is. I'm just lowering the vegetation if I search for shrooms.

quaint cosmos
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I hated it, when I just saw it today. Thankfully there is a way to turn it off again.

untold lynx
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ooof barren Valheim looks rough

quaint cosmos
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but its easier to spot mushrooms

short sail
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I'll keep ya guys updated about my house and give you guys eventually a tour. deercat_sadthumbs

quaint cosmos
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All right o/

lunar flame
short sail
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I mean... Its not that bad. I had a tar lab in my last playthrough. Tar seems to damage... Everything it touches.

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S.T.A.L.K.E.R GAMMA CUSTOM

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