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except with 39 gamebreaking bugs and 112 more microtransactions
nah we don't descriminate here
That explains Cyberpunk, lol
"GIVE GAME NOW"
"But it needs lots more bugfixing"
"GIVE IT NOW IT'S BEEN AGES"
"Alright fine"
"IT'S BUGGY I HATE IT"
Rock and a hard place really, I don't blame the devs (much)
because once a boss or certain object has been defeted/claimed, it shouldn't respawn when you enter the game again
but it ain't going to be faster if you ask the same thing under everything we post 
But why not?
people do be like that sometimes
i like the respawn. and you need it for certain items
yea I dont mind it in dungeons, just random chest farming by using the login/logoff exploit feels goofy
because I want bosses that I have defeated and objects that I have claimed not to respawn? feels also like cheating even tho you don't want to
but you might not get certain pieces of armor then
Well, say goodbye to stuff like Fell Wispwyvern bronze and iron trophies then
What you want is what you want. And the technical reason for the world regenerating in this game aside, what about those that want to test different builds against a boss? Are you saying they should run through an entire game again to do so?
why not simply making it an option that can be turned on and off for your server/save file?
yeah I don't use that either - just kills the RP and the sense of achievment for me
THe options already there.... you don't have to go back to the boss.
And yes, as mentioned, there are mechanics in this game that require you to kill bosses more than once 🤷
it's just the way the game is and they've designed around that.
unless you have giga luck
and rngesus is on your side
Not even luck.... the trophies cant be crafted without killing multiple times 😛
wait really?
Yeah
You need X amount of whispwyvern heads to craft X trophy.
iirc, 5 for bronze, 10 for iron
oh
And the dragon only exists once in the game, have fun making the upgrade and the trophy
i mean you don't just want a boring wood trophy. you want a blingy one, then a more blingy one
btw the dragon is a cool boss fight
No base is complete without a giant iron cyclops trophy in your bathroom watching you pee- I mean above your door watching for trespassers
Before HH the dragon is the only one i'd personally consider a boss fight. It was very nice.
he pasted my backside so hard the first time i met him. took me about 20 attempts as archer with full archer gear. but i'm rubbish at combat 😄
now he's my little lizard puppy victim
As much as it's super overdone comparing things to Souls games:
You just gotta learn the boss' patterns
And yeah personally I love the Wispwyvern fight, feels very engaging
Everything is compared to souls games... as if they were the first ones to do such things 😄
ikr, lol
The Souls meter is the only measure of gaming quality recognised by gamers world wide!
Also I used to be super scared of the Sicklescythes for how fast and hard they hit and especially how long they chase me
Until I found the cheese method, kek
I face tank them on my warrior.
no spoilers on the cheese method - i still get wrecked by them
Is there an update today ? 😉 Saw this twitter post about "Backto the shroud July 29th"
Yes, there will be an update today.
No worries, hence why I simply called it cheese method haha
Earning that epiphany yourself is the best feeling
I like some good cheese but only if I find it myself 🙂
Do you like holy cheese?
Cheesus Christ
is that a trick question?
Isn't everything a trick question?
heard skyrim has some cheese wheels that are soo good that people carry multiple wheels around and even enjoy them during battle
inception question?
Are we going to see more dragons similar to the boss one?
Well yeah, gotta constipate yourself for long journeys
We've seen plenty dragons.
Draconic Vultures
Schrodinger's Question.
Eidar Cheese wheels ftw btw
Can make fondue with them, hell yeah
I'd say they're far removed dragons, despite their naming...
I hated those things with a burning passion til my wife brought me into the light that is the Beastmaster skill tree
I mean, you just complete the fight several times. It respawns.
Yea, that was in reply to someone suggesting that bosses shouldn't respawn.
Ah. Makes sense.
Also, wasn't it three heads for bronze and 5 for iron, so 9 total if you want all three trophies?
🤷
Personally cant remember.
Actually, 10 times if you do the flame altar upgrade as well...
I thought it was 5 and 10, but yeah crafted them awhile back so can't remember
Hell they might even have been changed
The one I really don't want to grind for is the Fell Sicklescythe. Even with max level armor, it's not fun fighting it as a mage, even on default settings.
Fair 🫂
Dragon is challenging but not too bad. Harder at a lower level, to be certain. The Fell Monstrosity that you get the black cauldron from, is actually the easiest of the three.
The monstrosity to me was like.... oh that was a boss? 😄
You mean taking an exploding skull to the face is not a mark of being a good tank?
Damn
Dragon is incredible easy if you know what to do, assuming all the bugs are stuck
If you're tanking and that's your intention, then it's a mark of a very good tank!
First time I was horrified by its absolute onslaught, then afterwards I actually learned its pattern, and yeah same now lol
Problem is it flies around, it takes time to cast staff spells (longer than it takes to let loose an arrow), and some of its attacks go through the terrain.
There are... methods to deal with it
Cheese, one might say
But I'd really encourage finding it out yourself
Sicklescythe becomes super easy afterward
And yeah the arrow timing thing pissed me off too
Honestly, I consider Gorgon Matron harder than Fell Monstrosity.
🤣
Oh I always cheese those haha, can't be bothered dodging all that acid chucking
but also antiseptic and dodging is a thing vs those
Yea i cheese the matrons.
Same, but you still have to watch out for those freaking wolves, and it also moves around, and if you pick a bad spot you could end up being nommed by wolves or splashed with acid.
One day I should really use antiseptic for its purpose 😆
Ah well, always hungry for cheese
I fought one where it kept spawning wolves just barely inside a pillar, where they could be hit but wouldn't attack
That was a fun day, so many fluffy wolf friends 🙂
im sure this has been asked a bunch but when does the update drop
Fell Monstrosity though, as a ranged character, not at all hard.
Just keep moving when it's throwing those little ranged attacks, use a fireball to take out bees when they get deployed, and whittle it down until it's gone.
When does the sun go down?
Dragon at least, it's an enclosed area and its movements are not always predictable.
So that one's challenging.
They estimated like 5pm central european time iirc?
But basically, "later because bugfixing"
The monstrosity has adds?
Sometime in the next 24 hours.
Never saw them xD
I'm not sure i'd count them as adds, more like an ability 😄
Easy to kill, but annoying.
Hated those shroudbees until I got Sun Aura
Heavily underrated ability tbh
Truly feel like a Flameborn with literal burning aura
Every boss fight can be brought down to attrition with it too lol
I was in a low level area farming shroud wood with the ability, and realized I didn't even need to fight anymore. Just collect the shroud spores once I was done cutting down the tree.
It's a A-bee-litiy
I don't think i can .... big enough.
Same but for shroud liquid 😛
I use shroud wood in building... or was. It's been a few weeks since I played.
I made a bigass citadel/fort thing with Well Blocks cuz I loved it so much
Readily farmable materials, but tedious af
Bees need to be happy
Or it'll sting
I posted pics in #screenshots-and-art that show what I do with shroud wood. I agree that it's tedious af to farm.
Incomplete base that I just sorta stopped not even a fourth of the way done.
Tbh.
I want to be able to plant Shroud liquid.
Who cares if my base gets Enshrouded
My NPCs? Already dead inside.
My friends? We got 12 minutes on our Timer and maybe it'll give them an incentive to go outside and adventure.
I respect that, lol
I pick it up while farming shroud wood, and ended up with more than I know what to do with. I've got like 9 stacks of shroud wood blocks I still need to use, and planning to use all of them.
I still need uh...
Almost...
Lemme count...
100 Shroud Cores
Ring of rot.
Ring of Rot time then eh
That's what, 3 wraiths and a Thunderbrute, 4 cores at a time
Still 6 altars to upgrade
My other cores got used up.
I'm just too lazy to farm Shroud liquid
Ahhh beat me to it lol
That makes 25 runs
Yep, fun fun fun
Which needs another altar I'd need to upgrade!
duh.
i have a secret dream to play with someone who just sends me out to farm resources, then builds something really beautiful (much much better than I manage) but I can say it's mine too because I contributed
I've got 69 shroud cores in my base (nice) and 825 shroud spores, along with enough shroud liquid to convert all of it if I feel like it.
some content creators do that
for example with the Mina's Tirith build
You're allowed to be oppressed by me and farm my ressources.
You're allowed to live inside but you need to wear the pink dress all the time
Deal? 
oh god you monster
kinky
It was a fair deal
if something's going on with de discord community and his excellency, I'm in
get a santa suit. and when we have ear options I'll come be the elf
Degeneracy, the fate of every internet community no matter the topic
Nothing, nothing at all, keep working on those patch notes.
I'm done with the changelog xD
Me trying to recruit some slaves errr I mean helpful people
just discussing som casual slavery
🥺
have a rest for few minutes it's coffee tiiiime
or tea time
or soda
or whatever
Not on my end.
Just something that would get me sued for hostile work environment.
That one I like the most.
Where can I apply as Taskmaster?
feels like this is going to turn into something really intresting here
i don't think you apply. you just demand. come on - step up to your draconian overlord role and show some backbone
Can you not use the smol text markdown?
Or is the word allowed blocked?
No, markdown is blocked...
Yep.
Good.
I'll just do it like every royal.
Stomp feet, demand, repeat, cry
||Imagine not being able to make smol text. 😭||
the crying part isn't the funniest one but I got to say it makes you stronger
Does that hurt your smol text feelings?
Discriminating against the visually impaired.
those are some very long words that are discriminating against the verbally impaired...
Touché.
As a royal I'm born to lead people into the Shroud.
Erase that last part out of your minds
it makes me think about discrimination in slavery.... everyone should be a slave if he wants to, no matter where you come from. But anough talking about that, I'm going numb
that sounds very supercalafragilisticexpialadocious
coulé. ça me plait de parler Français
oh my god memory unlocked
Cannot speak Italian please english
I do not like speaking french, i'm just glad i have google translate 😄
it's like i'm 5 again
I can do it all day
I've read inventory unlocked
but no honor, I'm french so
60 fps in game, but the world map tanks it down to 10 fps...
does english speakers really use ''voilà'' as often as in movies ?
dumb question yup
Could be worse. 1
that's why I hate this game so much
joke aside
it is really stressfull for me idk why
feels like my graphic device is gonna explode
I'd say it's relatively common, yes!
oooh, cool, I like this word, he feels smooth
at least you'll have a place to cook eggs if your cooker stops working and Emily Fray moves out because you didn't give her enough flowers in the kitchen
Emily cant blame me for anything, to be honest, she's my favorite character... I mainly do farming and gardening in the game... SO MANY FLOWERS
I'm some sort of a flower and plant human yep
ok that's good. she is at least friendly, unlike Mr OI
real
Oswald and Emily are goats
and they dont even do anything
I just love them
Related to gardening. How tall in blocks is the highest tree?
you mean, those you can place or in the open map ?
Those you can place
Sounds like someone's planting trees underground
Sadly I don't know how tall in blocks they are
I was about to say, have you been to Blackreach?
How do i get more than 8 flames?
I don't know, maybe it's on this website : https://wiki.eso-ui.com/index.php/Main_Page @elfin needle
i see ppl who have like 30
Nexusmods?
No idea, go take a look 😄
I just thought of the most time consuming mega-base you could build in this game...
World Tree. I'm sure you guys have farmed the wood material from blackreach.
if you kill 3 BIG BIG vukahs in 30 minutes you get one more altar to place 
At that point you could just rebuild all the structures and bam you've rebuilt the world as requested, just yknow, not removed the Shroud
can only think of 2 locations of where to find themn
Thank good only the big ones and not the ones with fistcuffs
dont waste your time I was joking, I dont want to ruin your day
oh no worries, not that I believed it but still
😄
thinking of where I could do it
I think of three places right now
but i can tell where you at in the game
progression meaning
4h to go
I just realized this was not a Skyrim reference, that you meant Blackmire
My brain when I'm not at work, I swear...
Sorry. My mistake. XD
this is how I called the place the entire part I was doing it
Nah it's my bad lol
like I was going to see some Argonians or something
Hell yeah
Nowhere to hide anymore.
You're... Swiss Frog, right? 
Find yourself a female Argonian mage
aka the Lizard Wizard
being a Keen's CM in the middle of the Swiss mountains
omg dream
switzerland
my bad
Suisse to me
Swiss mountains is correct
Bring us one Toblerone and all is fine
I do kinda want to build something big with that material you get from blackmire... but it would be insanely time consuming to farm.
Toblerone is very overrated
a gigantic toblerone
Whaaat
But I like it
Are you now shaming me for chocolate? 
melted
I already told you that you should move xD
Move where
Switzerland xD
It's so freaking pretty
One of the great ironies is that I want to start a YouTube channel... but I think I'd be better off as a typing channel than a gaming builds channel, even though I wanna do gaming builds too. XD
Do what you feels like is going to make you enjoy it
try things
what's wrong to make you feel good ?
a lil bit of philosophie before the update

I also want to make a living off of it, and I've got incredibly good looking keyboards and I've hit 140 words per minute while typing - the problem is I have trouble sustaining anything above 120.
starting a youtube channel or streaming is like quitting smoking... you just have to do it ^^
no excuses 😄
yep, I'm musician, I feel everyone that want to live from something a lil bit out of ''normal''
"Don't let your dreams be dreams" -actor turned internet meme machine
I would have tell this way less bueno
JUST..... DO IT
Have you seen the demotivational version of that? So great.
yeah that's hard, really.
this is why we have enshrouded this year
making pause
My dream is cream
And a update
please, do me a favor, and tell me what's your favorite flavor for ice cream ?
or sorbet maybe
My geography skills ain't the best but wouldn't that be just further away from my GF in Austria
Choci
I know this is a bit of a tangent, but has anyone read about the research on board games, card games, and video games being good for mental health and preventing things like Alzheimer's Disease and Parkinson's?
All of the research has been showing that it's specifically passive entertainment that rots the brain - anything that requires active cognitive involvement, even at a low level, has a protective effect.
chocolate it is ?
Only
Or the one from Landliebe that is nowhere to find anymore
Orange Sherbet
I like chocolate and vanilla and strawberry, but orange sherbet will always be my favorite.
Honestly, I even like coffee flavor ice cream. But not as much as orange sherbet.
All of that, too late for me.
WhoamIagain
seems like they're only doing yogurt now
I. Hate. It.
Yep I got you, orange is tasty
That's very dependent on where you two live
Next in line they'll forbid Chuppa Chups orange
You'll take my Chupa Chups from my cold dead hands
I think my most cursed food preference was wondering if chili would taste better sweet, adding a can of crushed pineapple to the pot, and it was actually really good.
We live in ||Iwonttellyouhere|| and next to ||maybeIwonteveninDMs|| 
aren't you in Embervale ?
I thought so...
Theres my throne.
Where my throne is most of the time my ass is also. But my heart lives for coins so I'm not fully moved in for now
always coins....
if you had not give it all to your people, that are now DEAD....
you would have some coins
but noooo
you were not a TYRAN
you had to be a good lord
(yep I try to entertain every one untill the update)
- are these 'coins' usable as real world currency
- if so, can I have some
- if they're just those chocolate coins, can I have some anyway
Purely cosmetic, yeah
But you can put any armour/clothes in the cosmetic slots too
3, if you discount the first linen set
every gear can be considered as a cosmetic set now, but for the 'no perks ones' if I can say, i think you're right it's three
the two nobles ones
and the explorer
I mean with purple background
I will say though, last update that changed the inventory icon for fireflies?
I love the new icon.
Like explorer
explorer do give perks ?
Nope.
Naw
'kay
Every icon got brighter
and bam, delayed another day xD
If you ask one more time
I'll put you in my vault
I would feel so sorry I will do something really big to apologize. Like an Shroud fest or something
Update 14:53?
with bands doing the soings from the game
with all the chocolate coins? can I come?
I got an idea for a location name in the mountains
Mourntains
a trap aint a trap if there's chocolate
And we send all the update when asking there
I did it ONE Time to organize my self with my connexions because the cows and donkeys takes it after 9pm here
I will not in the future
but I run really fast If I do....
otherwise we can deal something, instead of putting me inside, you make me work as a guard
I was thinking this night (yeah I love liminal spaces and stuff...) A jail in the game like, you put someone in you say ''hay, go find the exit''.
And it's blackout. Just some mobs that does not glow or something in it....
sort of a dark maze
horror night 🙂
welcome to the shroudrooms
When does the update drop?
Soon
Ehem.
Dear Keen Team.
I, ruler of the Lands of Embervale, hereby demand you to release the update ||when you feel like it
|| for my subjects. By the supremacy of my law it'll ||maybe? Please?|| contain the coins I my people desperately need to live their day to day lifes.
In all his own Excellency and with dear regards.
Me.
Before the sun drops.
🤔
when sun rises in the west and sets in the east
I gave it all in my letter.
I was even polite
how about

forsake coins. embrace communism.
7.12gb beta dl is that new?
Unlikely
You're really a cold amphibian.
Shattering a mens ambitions and dreams.
Dear Devs:
I love this game. TY for getting so. much. right. ❤️
IF, however, you were looking for something teeny tiny that would make some of us who, perhaps, are wont to save save save every little drop and resource we get JUST IN CASE it is ever needed...
Please, for the love of the flame, give us a mid-game recipe that USES ALL THIS CLOTH!! (Huge banners? Rag-tied carpets? Flags?? Please! Something!!)
Aren't amphibians cold-blooded by nature? 🤔
That's the joke. 
👍
Inb4 we get 50 banner and rug recipes, and every last one of them calls for linen.
I slowly grow the feeling that to be a Keen CM you need to rip out y, e and s from your keyboard. Always no's from them, never a yes. 
They're just unable to say it. 
But he wanted to get rid of cloth not linen. 
What mak ou a that 🤔
Also they even avoid to use those letters
Blackmir
Fll Wpwvrn
I'm talking about the CMs. The devs don't have these problems. 
And Fll Montroit sounds funny
I like Wpwvrn cuz it sounds like Whipwyvern
CrackThatWhip.mp3
To be fair, that's what it does to players during that boss fight.
Whips its body back and forth (if you're under it)
Two song references down 😉
I was hired the moment they knew I can't spell the word
Heya all. Excited for the update yet? xD
yes!
nah, couldn't care less. gotta go paint my nails today so screw the boring update
bring it on!
sorry, meant to type yessssssss but i'm trying to be a good self controlled adult
what time is the update gonna be??

somwhere between now and midnight
have we got patch notes for update yet or no
no
thank you
okie thx for response ❤️
I expected such. 
I wonder what are the odds my wish ever get fulfilled. 
but am trying to to overhype myself either 🙂
i am waiting for it like everybody else 🙂
yep
i tried on launch and havnt touched it since then. can anyone tell me if it runs well at higher frame rates now
tomorrow i am planning to build myself a big garden on my land and i will use all the seedlings avialable
but i have to read about how to plant because i never done it
so i do not know what materials do i need for it
Frame thing got fixed long ago
oh awesome to hear good job devs!
Frog, one day karma will get you.
And this day I'll still ask politely.
Craftable "coin/gold" decorations with runes should make Van happy enough
...so, you'll break up with Karma in a couple months and make millions off a new song about it?
I'll give 6 stars reception If we even get runes with copper, silver and gold. 
I wish
If that happens share some with the people in here you like.
I know I'm excluded. 
Now that I think about that what was said, that's a genius way to use up some runes.
I'll keep you in mind when I pick out a castle to adopt thousands of stray cats
Counteroffer
Let me keep my excess runes in a big physical pile I can place in a room in my base
Bonus points if I can swim in it like Scrooge McDuck
it's already 2:22pm... patch notes... heavy breathing
That's exactly what I want to do!
WHEN ARE WE GOING to Get a Real Update to Game ?? 🥹
If he's linked Steam to discord, it should theoretically be possible to make that happen.
Introduce code to the game engine just for him.
Never
What time does update 3 arrive?
They'll just go take a lunch break... for the next 4 hours.
Well I have to sleep zzzzz see you all later
Uh... If that was coming before wasn't an update for you this one will disappoint you
How longs a piece of string?
Damn, the updates haven't been real so far?? My life is a lie 
I must've imagined that torture of a Hollow Hall
#patch-notes is apparently also a lie xD
Yeah, guess I gotta toss out all my beautiful Red Marble blocks 
Or delete the blackmire, Rip my hobbit hole
you put your hand through your lute....and it's just not really there
the lute was a lie 😦

Real sadboi hours now
I Refuse to do number 4 .. you need a Tank and 6 hrs to completely do it .. Well for me anyway
plot twist: you only get access to the update if you ran all the Hollow Halls at least 12 times.
update 3 is today?
Yes
At maximum difficulty. With a timer. Every failed attempt restarts the counter.
...I an the fourth one easily that many
Red Marble farming is hell 😛
every dungeon has to be completed sub 30 minutes
Nah, was changed to complete the game in under an hour, with all lore collected
✅ Done
is it even possible to run HH3 sub 30?
I'm thankful in that my creativity does not currently call for red marble.
I dont think it is
any chance to "mark" already visited/done places?
Surely some absolute madlad has speedran (see: glitchran) that somehow
+2 utc in summer
Depends how many shortcuts you take.
I saw a vid - was pretty impressive
Hollow Halls as a solo run is a bit... um...
i got HH4 in 23
and quite legit
That's why I said all lore, makes it quite harder
HH3 is super long tho
I've never timed it but that seems about around the area i've had.
23 hours? yeah sounds about what i did too
*days, sorry for being inprecise
mined the entire dungeon
oh wow so i AM good at the game!
inb4 "so here we just jump backwards while spamming equip-unequip slot 5, that lets you instant teleport to X..." or some such
Was watching a glitchrun for Tears of the Kingdom recently, this sorta stuff isn't even exaggerating
I did the first two as a mage, and it was painful.
One message removed from a suspended account.
Literal hordes make a b-line for my squishy mage and I've gotta fireball them and hope they don't close the distance.
Yes
i mean if you´ve seen the skyrim or elden ring speedrun, you know that the sky is the limit
Wands aren't even effective against that many.
Elden ring is about the same, press this and this with a metronome and game over
I wonder how people figure this shit out
Inb4 speedrunners use a literal metronome to do their runs.
Do what I do: run to those many points where the walls have that little ledge area, stand on top and spam fireballs
I mean uh, yeah charge in like a true warrior and perfect parry every attack or something, cough cough
Otherwise it's basically impossible to zip anyway
oh If I press x exactly 12,5 times, look exactly 37,423 degrees in this direction and twist my left toe to look east, then the game will boot me to the end boss
which I somehow beat at lvl 1
no armor, no nothing
Don't forget you have to do the chicken dance in reverse
1 finger death poke.
same, i did all HH solo as a mage and those lil ledges were my lifeline
Yeah, the problem is that sometimes things are out of range, then you attack them and have to dart away and dodge away while hoping you don't miss the jump because you've got 50 skeletons breathing down on your squishy mage and you've only got once chance to make that jump.
😭
Is it just me or did u guys just speed up immensively on writing speed
got fast fingers
and played sc2 for 12 years
300 apm average
I type 120wpm sustained, and have brief moments where I hit 140wpm.
I tended to glide far enough away, turn and fireball once or twice, rinse and repeat until everything is dead.
Server for once active, tomorrow it's silent again dw
How did that now turn out to a contest in apm
you challenged a gamer
Today, everyone is waiting for update.
Tomorrow, everyone is playing update.

Dunno what I got in my test... On my phone it's also a entirely different story.
I think like between 250-300
I am a citizen of the internet
In chats it's type faster or fall behind
And I can only sacrifice so much spelling and grammar before I lose
The day after everyone is complaining about the update
Tomorrow everyone asks for the next update
It needs a ing in it
If it's like a lot of game communities I've been in
-Complain update isn't out yet
-Play all content well within the day
-Complain next update isn't out yet
tomorrowing?
Ahhh Sophie already knows haha, beat me to it
Well the complaints being it's not enough content
I mean, there are some INSANE typists out there who put my 120wpm to shame.
They're hitting 160wpm sustained with spikes over 200wpm.
Is the new update available?
it will come today but we dont know the time 🙂
Yeah it will be
Have you checked steam today?
Currently it's still dating the devs, but it will be single soon
I mean, uh
isn´t that a good thing? if you´re cooking and ppl are throwing your food down their throat, its a sign that you did a good job cooking
Pssst there is no e in my name
Sophia th dcivr
👍
lets goooo we need the patch i have to make Videoooos
ENSHROUDED

People complaining about stuff that isn't a new biom isn't helpful
oh I agree, it isnt helpful
I can feel the pain radiating off that comment
but its a sign that people care
That's pretty much what's happening since launch
If it helps, until I joined this server/followed the game more closely, all I knew until the update announcement was the devs saying next update would be big, specifically mountain biome
So any update before then that isn't that, they'll be confused due to promise of biome
Granted that doesn't justify annoying y'all about it, at all
Enshrouded fills a niche that's starving for content, and it does so in a really unique way. There aren't enough decent build-survival games out there.
Right now it's Enshrouded, Conan Exiles, and Ark: Survival Ascended for me. There are some other games, but none of them seem as good as my top three.
Space Engineers is interesting, but the graphics are a bit dated...
i think it's also a sign that people just want what they want and get angry when they can't have. there's something childish in it, to my eyes
Is there a way to remove the map markers for areas I've already done? Ex: Elixir wells, ancient vaults, etc
Not currently, but could be a suggestion
The internet is childish and those that complain don't see it 😄
Alright. Thanks!
Cardinal rule of the internet:
"On the internet, all women are men, all men are children, and all children are FBI agents."
In the ama in May iirc they talked about update 2 being a sub biom and the one after it the snow, but ppl weren't happy about low level stuff
Valhiem and V Rising seem to be similar too. Never played V Rising but Valhiem is pretty gud.
i imagine a little red faced toddler screaming as the cookie jar goes back up on the shelf after he's already had 5
I played the Helheim outta Valheim
Then I heard about this and just felt it did a lot of the same things way better
No offense to Valheim, just yknow, I'm hooked to this
elixir wells get a checkmark once you've completed them. fire sanct/shrines, you just try to remember i guess? lmao
people need to realise what Early access means, as well. you're not entitled to everything - everything hasn't been made yet
I love V Rising! Got hang of how to build better castles.
I know there is a mountains biome coming at some point but i dont think that its going to be this update
I could never get over the graphics in Valheim. I mean, I get why it's popular because that game could run on a potato, but the graphics were always an issue for me.
oh for sure. this hits more than Valhiem for me.
agreeeed!
It's CUUUUUUUUUB!
CUB!
It won't be you're correct
ham houm hem or something
Have a good weekend?
That is EXACTLY my story about this game. I feel bad for the Valheim team, I don't think anyone is playing Ashlands....
its a shame because the lighting and night sky in valheim are some of the best graphics ive seen ... but then the player and the enemy mobs are just pixelated blobs 😦
he had more than weekend
Did he have two of them?
Me: Unironically drops like $2k on a high end gaming PC.
Also Me: Installs Valheim and then wonders why it looks like a potato.
I went to the BEACH yesterday
For me it was like
-Better graphics
-Smoother combat
-Runs better
-Doesn't instantly freeze if you accidentally click something else when starting up
-Etc
Sorry Valheim, I had a lot of fun with you, but I got me a new hook
I swam around and dove into waves and stuff
I didn't know hedehogs could do that
Holy moly!
I'm looking forward to Dune, but it's definitely not gonna have that Enshrouded vibe.
One thing I miss about Valheim: The sailing. I loved it.
And the water sounds as you build close to the ocean.
Ark has rafts and things that like to eat rafts.
oooo, yeah! the sailing was dope.
Oh god yeah
That first few sessions with my brothers as we played sea shanties on another screen while sailing
Good times
Valheim IS about exploring
it's one of the game's pillars
Afternoon everyone, is there going to be an update today?
not just "open world exploration" as much as "being some guy who gets his ass on a boat for points unknown"
Allegedly.
yes
update coming soon-ish, hold on to your hats

Can neither confirm nor deny the actions of the developers, your honour?
Patch notes?



Oh no.
I wished it'd come out in an hour from now on. 
Agreed!
Enshrouded, despite being the same world (not randomly generated) still manages to provide LOTS of exploration opportunity, though! I was surprised, tbh. I thought I'd get tired of it, but even after hundreds of hours, I'm still finding little things here and there I missed all over the map. FUN!
now... "soon" means something different for everyone. 5min, 10min half an hour, one hour
NVIDIA Experience not finding my game even when i give the app the full enshrouded link to my pc files... anyone same problem?
🤔
Depends. Are we talking "soon" as defined by a senior citizen waiting for coffee, or are we talking "soon" as defined by Rockstar when talking about GTA6?
we´re talking "soon" as defined by blizzard
We're talking soon as defined by CUB.
And I thought that guy was supposed to kill Odyns fiends while gathering feats that he can tell his mates in Valhalla while drinking mead and becoming himself Odyns best fiend
I´m guessing its happenibg within the next 2-3 hrs
"the update should be live right now"
Slap you pc harder
HUH????
Oh no.
LOL
Hahahaha

Does the update need CPR first

How about the patchnotes. 
CUB's pulling everyones legs for the laughs.
bruh





i got bamboozled
I cannot play until in an hour. 
"The update will be available soon."
"How soon?"
"That depends on your internet speed."
It's updating now!
mine shows Enshrouded so idk :o
So.... next week.
...or my steam is just doing strange things for kicks.
T h e h y p e h a s b e g u n
mine is updating I think
how is it that the update is here before patch notes 
6,5 gb update on my end, but no patchnotes yet
updating updating updating
Do the old fashioned thing and get in to discover whats new? 😄
always something with you guys 
i wouldnt actually mind tbh
if it was the other way around you guys would complain even harder 
true.
Are you suggesting we play the video game
I am shocked and chagrined
i dont have any updates yet
😦
The patchnotes are more important than the update apparently!
5.1GB
well they're live too
Is the update in the room with us
Try closing out and reopening Steam.
I just set it to offline and back online
where will the patch notes be
The usual places
i do love me some settings customisations
"Nobody cares about the update. We just want the patch notes!"
thanks CUB and Frog ❤️
Pretty much!
it upsets me that #patch-notes isnt the correct channel link for that lmao
if you dont want to*
brooo
What?
my statement has henceforth been retracted
this is insane
dropped something in patch notes too now
Weapon racks, LET'S GOOOOOO! 


Woo update. Can you guys hold off until I get home later this week before you play the update?
i was just being semi sarcastic but i appreciate it sir xD
FOSSILS!!! 


evergreen
stupid question. new customization for my character, how do I change my appearence?
now you can play the game more akin to how you want to play it
Should be on the main menu, where you select your character
(Unsure if you can change an already made character)
oh I can freely change it whenever I want?
Yeah, but now someone else can farm five stacks of shroud wood in 1 hour instead of 2 hours, so the game is clearly ruined. It's over.
just like an elden ring run, these settings can probably make it harder if being easier makes you feel small
yeah but thats the question 😄
😭
That’s where it would be
Also, it's not like there wasn't an entire world file with all the resources pre-farmed, where you could carry it over to another map, wipe it, and carry over another batch of resources.
not sure if serious or troll honestly
I think it was sarcasm
ah glad, i mean you never know nowadays xD
if anyone does get mad at optional things, assume its troll or small brain
Where is greatsword
or cod brain rot
Either way, laughter is the correct response.
exactly, just didnt know which one of those two he was haha
tactical coffee break
its like if you farm something, if you pretend not to care, it happens
Did they raise level cap yet?
Not yet
They need to, way to easy to hit 25
Toast awake early
uses custom settings to lower xp gain
don't forget to use #spoilers-ahead plz ❤️ not sayin I've seen spoils, but, you knoooow
I take offense to this.
We will raise the level cap at some point, though I will mention that currently levels don't do a lot other than give you more skill points. It's not like in a traditional rpg where your power level will basically stop increasing once you're "max level"
If anything more of it comes from items than levels
Bot Toooooooaaaaaaaassssssssssttttttttt People want their numberssssssssssssss!
Hey Toast!
toast? dont you mean burnt bread?
It’s fine
damn, new char presets and options???? can i adjust my current char tho???
also update hype

thanks for the update !! 5gigs, idk what to expect, but hope everyone will enjoy it !! see you soon have a great game y'all !!! 
am I able to chance my appearance?
Watch the YT short if you want a bit of a heads up ^^
Did they add the ability to have more than 1 of a certain npc on a server?
ive been playing too much FD, maybe enshrouded will come back eventually xD
So ppl can build in othet areas
would love that
It's on the roadmap. Have you read patchnotes yet?
QUOTE - The mountains in Embervale are less snowy now. This is in preparation for new things to come… 
who snows whats coming
Add rideable dragons 🙏
I really enjoyed playing enshrouded. When is the full release with final boss going to be out? That's when I want to get my bros back in the game
2025 sometime, if all goes according to plan
6 months minimum.
Thanks!
love the difficulty settings. so gonna test out survival
Thanks! Now I got something to look forward to next year
Im still waiting for the ability to have multiple of the same npc so I can throw a dedicated server up and have people build wherever they want.
"FSR3 is now supported and replaces FSR2. You can stop asking now." lol
People can already build wherever a flame is, that has nothing to do with NPC's.
nice
it's still on the docket
i ll wait for more updates tho
Im talking about not having people in the server all go to one area just to use the npcs in someone's base
lmk how the new block looks like
Stopped playing because you guys decided to go Mario world 3d jumping on mushrooms and stuff l. Never even got the musical part done.
Wen wotah? Wer boat? Fishing rods confirmed next update? [insert other random personal preferences that were not in the update]
They can technically summon the NPC's whereever they are. But yes, i know you'd like them to each have their own.
They're unlikely to take that out, so why are you here making comments about it now? 😄
Because I'm sure others have stopped because of it too
Are you now? Their loss.
It's one part of the game. Optional. You don't have to play it. You can always go multiplayer with someone that's willing to get the things for you.
Guys, I played this game when it first came out and it was fantastic. What new weapons did they add? Hopefully a spear
wait. why am I not finding the option to "change appearence" ? do I need to create a whole new character?
Read the patchnotes. But none since the daggers.
The mannequins and weapon racks are a big improvement.
They really are putting out strong updates 
I see. Guess I will wait for a bit more updates then. Cheers
idk man, taking out fun bouncy things definitely sounds like it'd improve the game
Games aren't supposed to be fun, you see 🧠
Also, thinking back, I was always kinda annoyed by how empty the shroud below Nomad Highlands was. Might be easier to get those mushroom things now.
note that in this update we specifically call out making some of the more difficult jumping sequences less frustrating
when we can start asking about new update?
Update 2.5
There were difficult jumps? o.O
Probably for players that didn't spec into double jump.
we re in the same boat
the moment your client is done updating xD
I mean it really has been a while since the last major update so ...
Possible! I just wait for the outcry when they remove double jump.
I don't know if i'd refer to this as a major update personally. Its a brilliant update but we had hollow halls and then Mire before this as major updates.
the last update was in early June, what are you talking about 
the last update was 5.6.2024
That's an eternity!
You'll take my double jump from my sweaty dead gamer hands
You're the one that said it...
I think they should dedicate each major update with a new weapon type, hopefully the next major update includes a proper skill tree rework too.
tiktok brains require weekly updates nowadays. anything else just means lazy devs to them
if i have to make a new char to see the new char lewk options, i'm gonna rip off my eyebrows [,:
ok... so there is no option to chance your character appearence 😦 sad expecially because you added new stuff for it
Weekly? hourly.
this one has several sections reworked
SHIT lmao
can confirm (i am the tiktok brain)
Yeah, remove the whole beast master tree and then we will be talking x
I really feel bad for CM's now .. they are flooded like my basement last year
the people are kinda getting mean to the devs
Nah, much worse than your basement... they have to handle the steam forums as well.
I'm gonna say, game is ace, I trust in the devs. Let them work on their timescales and remember its early access.
skill tree is actually fine
Just here to say well done devs! Im currently unable to play myself, but im eager to try out the new features.
Literally aeons ago omg.
Pulling your tiny leg tho. Most of your updates feel like major ones when compared to other games

The Entire team to a fantastic job in pumping out as much as they do in the timeframe they do it.
not yet
Best early access dev team in history
The reason I'll go quiet and sob for myself because no coins in my corner. 
But from what I've read in the patchnotes the Patch is chunky
Bro, is the suggestion poll site still in use?
Yep though we've fallen a bit behind in approving new suggestions because we got quite a few, I'm still workin on it though
It's chunky, its funky, includes difficulty options so my GF can play.
Like 90% of the suggestions we get have to be deleted/merged because they don't follow the rules so it's a bit exhausting lol
Yeah, part of me thinks ya'll should cherrypick a few you want to keep as a poll and then reset the whole site so that the current players can say what is important to them after the last few updates
Is there some sort of 'click here if you know what you're doing' check box to make sure people read what they're meant to be doing with the submissions? 😄
96% of update done.... cant wait to test out hardmode settings 🙂
Make it like Blizzard.
Ask Player 3 times what they want and even combine the suggestions topic with the search function and If the specific Word exists already saying "Oh! Your suggestion exists already. Just give your opinion in there!"
the thing already shows existing suggestions
Dammit.
People really want to eat your time
That requires people to read something they themselves don't want first.
Server settings is awesome... still waiting on levels on npcs and I don't know, more of the world.
Levels are meaningless
they dont have the decency to even attempt to check if the same suggestion was made before. "why waste time on that? isnt that what the devs are being paid for?"
Levels on NPC's?
Still.
Without new biomes and content level remain meaningless
In this update they introduced amd frame generation?
Have you read the patchnotes?
I am sorry, did my statement not include "and more of the world" or did you both overlook that?
I just wonder why snow is gone from the mountains now. 👀
Global warming
In preperation!
Yeah i did i saw fsr 3 but dont know if upscalling only or frame gen too
I'd say that's something pretty substantial, so if it were added, they'd have mentioned it in the patchnotes.
They just can't wave a wand and new biomes etc. will be done. It'll take more time than what it takes to do such an update what we got today
Sons of the forest has fsr3 but it doesnt have frame gen so maybe its the same case i dont know
they shouldnt have added the settings to increase health and stuff
Freedom is bad?
Ah, so we have a pendant troll in chat
new players gon put everything to max
pedant
Is there any eta on them adding townspeople?
I stopped playing as I’m a single player and the world just feels really empty without people to actually save and a civilisation to actually rebuild.
It's explained in the notes
Still no 360 rotating build pieces I see. Guess I'll be back again next update to check
Greatswords?
"Default settings" are for people starting first time
you guys just dont understand how it effects the game
doubt. when i play new game i always go with default settings
I cant speak specifics, but if it doesn't say it in the patchnotes and you cant see anything referencing in the ingame settings, i'd assume that it hasn't been included (yet)
atleast it should change the diffuclty as u change the settings
everyone is free to have their own opinion. and my opinion is that yours is stupid 😄
Anyone notice the map got extended to the South?
haha u havnt played ark prob why
Affects who's game?
u just cant undertsand the problem this is
Previous southern edge of map is no longer the current southern edge of the map.
what is dude even babbling about?
yes that's the point of adding difficulty settings, hope this helps
Guys, any news about greatswords?
First muh fishing rods
wE jUsT dOn'T uNdErStAnD
They exist.
yeah diffuculty settings is fine
are you tired yet?
When is enshrouded gonna be releasef on xbox?
Dunno why you're now about that but hey.
It'll take it's time anyway if you complain or not. Won't make it faster. Only dishearten the devs.
In the new update ?
im talking abt the setting for player stamina and stuff
Any suggestions on a way to turn down bloom/brightness in game?Was using reshade but it no longer works for enshrouded
I doubt it, i have not read the patchnotes, have you?
Oh dear god, the dishearten the devs bit? Old as time...
Not yet
and here comes the user block
Then i suggest this as the first course of action. It'll answer most questions you have about the update.
dont like it, dont use it. cmon its really not that hard
that's my secret captain: I'm always tired
Well I hope they bring frame gen
Time will tell ^^
we will add a setting eventually, that's on the roadmap. However, that's not included in this update
You either don't bring anything up to the conversation but well then, if you mean to be like that?
People like u will get upset anyway whatever it gives because you want to.
is there an updated graphic of the things on the road map being ticked off? Just seems like a really good social media post to show case the work the devs and team have put into the game.
tah dah look at the things we did
I really don’t want to pester but on the roadmap it mentioned they were gonna add townsfolk, to help the world feel a little more alive. Has there been any additional info?
I love the game but as a solo player I stopped because it was all just a bit lonely running about by yourself with nothing to really show for trying to save the world?
There actually is, somewhere, not sure where personally 😄 But i doubt it's been updated for this update.
i go for a walk and come back to happiness!
That would actually be really helpful
Where do I post a screenshot for a minor bug?
Not in this update afaik.
we're working on something like that
press F1 in the game and click on "Report an issue"
Is the difficulty configurable per person?
EX: We have girlfriends who play with us that would want less combat difficulty but us gamer bros would want more difficulty.
Thank you for answering though. Sad that theirs no news on it but happy to know at least. Looks like I’ll be waiting some more to start playing again.
for now difficulty is only configurable server-wide
It's still something the team's working on but no more teasers for that one quite yet
I just updated the game and now I can only remove previously built blocks one at a time, but can't remove items with the hammer
Thank you for the update 🙂
rip. Something worth considering. It would open the game up for more people.
now u can abuse the settings go custom 200% loot and farm for 10min then go back to ur own world
Open patch notes
Ctrl-F "pause"
0 results
See you guys next update
aayyeee love that. think its great how much work has gone in. Showing progress is fantastic PR
we're working on them but we didn't want to ship "here are some NPCs and they just stand there and they don't do anything" so we're still working on them
Absolutely, i can understand that one! They are good at keeping us updated with info on what they're working on ^^
are you aware that you could open your fridge and eat all of it right now
right now
why can u change it mid game
because you have self control not to
u should decide when u make the world
What do you want? Why do you care how OTHER PEOPLE play THEIR game?
not after u made it
you guys better stop complaining about the resource worlds
if you want to ruin your own experience playing the game like that. but everyone should know that you only harm your own fun doing this. so simply dont?
look at ur pfp first haha
Are you AI?
the decision is in your own hands
can we not go for personal attacks please
sorry
Apologise, yes that was wrong of me.
2 of ur boyfriends reacted to ur message
I will absolutely boost resource drops, ain't nobody want to spend 2 hours hitting iron ore
You can stop
I said stop
mb manager
womp womp
Errrr…. Could we not?
Dude take that advice
question is, you can change stuff like eye colour n stuff, can you actually change that after your toon is made or...have to start a new one...
Here's an alternative to the back and forth bickering
Play the update
It's got fun stuff
Just an idea 👍
huh
was there other decorations and crafts added this update. The patch notes only mentions the new stands and armor displays
Yeah where's my magic mirror for immersion
Update 4 when
Yesteryear.
I will play when I can pause my singleplayer and not a day sooner
Well we ain't got cryo pods, so uh
Good luck 👍
looking forward to when you feel like joining the player base babe
Then you'll never play again?
it's not possible yet 
Never, I'm a busy family man, I need to be able to pause my games
OK, bug report filed on minor graphical glitch.
Ill never understand why one can’t pause single player games
I'm going to assume the team is planning on adding an item in game to allow for this.... perhaps a Hairdresser?!
When new biome.
i've accidently AFKed in the shroud a few times too often...
Yeah I've had times where I'm mid-flight and someone knocks on my door
I've afk'd in the middle of the world plenty of times with no hassle
I’ve afked mid glide

@zinc rivet and @stable cedar Might i offer the game Sun Haven? It has pausing in solo great farm decorations multiple races and great skill trees
Also, it looks like torn cloth is now used to make ectoplasm.
I don't know if it's new, but that is one use for those old rags.
hope you had rested buff, else it was a long fall down 😄
most online games don't add pause features.. Just go to your base, and plan more I guess? That is wat I do
Not pausing singleplayer games is twofold:
- some companies specifically want to monopolize your time, or think not being able to pause makes the game "challenging".
- other companies have coded their games to run on server instance that simply don't pause because even solo play is considered a server
It was part of the crafting recipe in Hollow Halls update 👍
LOVE the inventory item ICON looks
they didn't change te max lvl rigth ?
no farming update 😭
I think a NPC could do that spot. 
nope we guessed wrong
Good luck devs cant wait for the next updog
i want the farming beds too
Aside from the shroud though, what problem is not pausing in this game?
Mannequins are super useful though. Made at the carpenter, and you can swap out both active armor AND vanity armor.
I'll be sure to explain to a 7 year old that I'm trying to plan my Enshrouded time more carefully
I mean we can’t really on one hand ve telling someone “why are you interested in how others play their game?” And then be telling people who want a pause button in the single player mode to “plan better”
Like I don’t really care, as I spend most of my time just sat in base… but absolutely does not effect anyone else’s game if on a solo run someone with kids has a pause button.
they didn't change te max lvl rigth ?
just a THANK YOU DEVS for the update, keep the good work! 👍
it's not that much a content update 😦 sad will wait again for more content
Means i can have them all on display now rather than sitting in a chest 😄
if a 7 yo doesnt understand.... then womp womp
What build do you guys say is the most fun to play?
rangers warrior
This may be a known bug, but I just wanted to mention that I started a new character with new world settings but I have all the quests I didn't complete from my last character?
All of them.
I run archer but i hear mage is most popular?
So bows and melee?
For builders it's actually kinda a big deal.
King sized bed, mannequins, weapon display racks.
I ran melee only my first playthrough around the time of release and wanna mix it up
Not yet, no.
Wait wait wait! New bed>!
Pog
im smittin with my bow play. It actually feels like a weapon and not a "side weapon"
I’ve made a flying inverted ziggurat… so I’m happy I get to make it more fabulous.
It's for the palm wood style unfortunately, but we needed bigger beds.
Maybe I'll go all in on an archer build. Could be fun
So with the new options, will we be able to edit our current characters?
And thank you so much for continuing on working on the game.
3 prop is a big deal for a builder ? x) all the updates before added a way more to play with for builder, this one is pretty low on new things. Except for server settings and game balanc ^^ It's more a QoL update than a Content update
Levels mean diddly squat.
My eye brows turned red where my beard and hairs are black, I'm dyyyyyying 
Did they add eyebrow colour before hair colour? I am very out of date with this game lol
I love when people tell other people that their opinion means diddly squat
Armor and weapon displays are actually a major deal for builders, because there are so many in-game assets that can be put on display now. They also added collectibles and display cases for them.
Hopefully this doesn't need a spoiler tag, because you can find out all of this within like 30 seconds of opening the game.
You know difficulty settings was one of the highest requested features, right? That on it's own makes this a big update.
Oh, there are lots of display cases too.
i did not say that
I am an archer in MOST games i play and i always feel 🦆 ed over because it isn't actually survivable as JUST an archer. Enshrouded made me feel like my weapon of choice is viable
I know
Agreed, my collected fashion is just sitting in a box behind my house and it makes me sad
i only was asking if the update the level max
Clicked the wrong person, I agree they needed to add levels
I didn't say it wasn't a big update, I just said that it's not a Content update but a QoL update. ^^"
becaus 50 is max atm rigth
Did i mention opinions? o.O
@signal ocean i reported a possible bug with the removel of previously built blocks
Yes, in fact you did.
Pog
Yeah I think that's a totally fair way to describe it :)
For builders, collectibles + display cases + weapon racks and armor stands to display your loot, that's quite a bit that will be very much appreciated.
what the max lvl atm
True, i guess it depends on how you look at the various features ^^
Discussion above was a little "heated", you got caught in the crossfire 
Not the same genre at all, but in Warframe one of the top tier weapons is a bow
Please show me where.
yes for nothing i think
Friendly fire in chat.
If your response to people asking for levels is levels mean diddly squat then you are talking about someone's opinion.
those explosive arrows...
You've done nothing wrong, it's fine ^^
Friendly fire is always on in Discord
Yeah it wasn't meant towards you
i was only ask about the max lvl thats all
But maybe we should cool down a bit yeah?
I am? That is your interpretation that my typed words are referencing someones opinon. That is you inserting your own opinion into someone elses words.
Thats dope. I don't play that game but im glad that is out there. Game devs really be dunking on archers. "haha JK youre a melee first and foremost bow is just 2nd weapon" glad to hear some respect of the bow
i am not angry
Soulmask also has hella good bows, and the NPCs zig-zag to avoid your shots
only asking somting and not getting a anwser
Nope, they asked about levels, others asked about levels, your response is it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to you that is an opinion. It matters to other people.
bow gameplay is so satisfying in Enshrouded. Trying a melee character afterwards was bad for me - just not as exciting
I think all of the serious builders in here will very much appreciate the new decor though.
Display stands + collectibles, along with armor and weapon displays and a king sized palm wood bed.
I’m just looking forward to the day when I can place one of my wee flame thingies on one of the old abandoned towns and just completely rebuild it and get all the people to come back and live there and it to be all vibrant and stuff.
Like I love this game but I gotta be honest I’ve found myself playing that Pokémon with guns game more just because I’ve enjoyed filling my wee base up with all the wee Pokémon.
The amount of times I adventure through a half destroyed town here and am just like… sure wish I could revive this place.
So I’m looking forward to seeing what they do with the NPC’s once they’re done with making them.
YOOOO I PLAY THE HELL OUT OF SOME SOUL MASK AND YES! totally agree I of course am an archer in that as well. The bow play feels REALLY good. Could be a bit more balanced but it feels good
gotta love you can also adjust the production speed. even tho i wanna play with 300% enemy dmg n stuff like that, i tend to be impatient on the production side of the game haha
You are free to interpret my words how you wish, but please do not insinuate something that is not explicitly obvious, okay?
Can have dark souls combat without grinding on a copper ore vein for five hours.