the-tavern

[subtle prawn]

Cub just stole it

[quasi saffron]

Wait. For real?

[subtle prawn]

Yeah xD /s

[quasi saffron]

Grand thieft character

[subtle prawn]

Question still is if I would wanna torture myself with HH 3 and 4

Maybe with the new update

[rigid phoenix]

I saw a you tube posting earlier in the week, something about an update teaser (trailer I'm assuming) in one weeks time. Has it been released yet? if it has where do I go to see it?

[quasi saffron]

My offer stands.
Only costs 5000 runes.

[subtle prawn]

There have been teasers but that's it

[quasi saffron]

Has to be released yet and will in the next month

[subtle prawn]

Maybe

[quasi saffron]

If all goes not into a well

[subtle prawn]

Would be surprised if it comes next week, more in the second half of june

[rigid phoenix]

👍 . Crossing my fingers.

[subtle prawn]

It's going to be a lower level area tied into the game progression if we trust CUBs words

[quasi saffron]

But can we trust him.

[subtle prawn]

Who knows

[quasi saffron]

He just stated hes a well informed CM

[subtle prawn]

But sometimes also a non informed CM

[quasi saffron]

And sometimes.
He isn't even showing up.

[subtle prawn]

Exactly

[rigid phoenix]

Question, does anyone know if time pauses when you log out of the game? I have noticed that when I log on the stuff I started in the kiln and the alchemist lab would still be counting down, even though they only should have taken about an hour in real time.

[quasi saffron]

Dedicated Server or Solo host

[rigid phoenix]

Solo

[quasi saffron]

First will have time passing the latter not

[subtle prawn]

In a p2p/private world the time stops in a dedi server it runs as long as the server is on

[rigid phoenix]

Ok, cool.

[quasi saffron]

Speaking about passing time.
I also need to pass out here for now

[rigid phoenix]

Have a good night. I am in Okinawa Japan, so only 18:14 here

[quasi saffron]

Actually doing work but thanks.

[subtle prawn]

It's only 11:15 here

Morning Aonyx

[devout hound]

Naw I checked before there were tons on open lobbies and then after I got griefed the lobbies that were previously open were now locked….

[odd bay]

it's 10:43 in god's country

[snow plaza]

🥱

[tame seal]

😬

[subtle prawn]

[tame shoal]

I'm addicted to Enshrouded. Absolutely love this game

[tame shoal]

Is there a way to turn wall/floor pieces besides the 90 degree turns?I want to build a circular building but I can only turn my floors and walls 90 degrees unless I'm missing something. (I do know a neat trick to get around this but just asking if there's a simpler way)

[hardy kindle]

There's not at this point

[tame shoal]

Damn. I did figure out that if you turn benches/chairs/furniture at the slight angles and then equip your hammer immediately after, the building piece you are on with your hammer will be at the angle that the furniture was. So technically it's possible and I can do it this way but it's just tedious lol

[hardy kindle]

That is an interesting... feature xD

[sturdy patio]

You can download mods like Builder's Companion - CT from Nexus Mods for example, that will let you go crazy with building.

[hardy kindle]

Oh yeah, with mods a lot is possible, just not vanilla

[halcyon shell]

I didn’t realise kidders would get down to busyness that fast…

[hardy kindle]

Have a nice weekend everyone!

[subtle prawn]

You too :3

[carmine scroll]

Make me.

[quasi saffron]

Finally at home.

And awww. Too late to wish a good weekend.

[subtle prawn]

Enjoy your weekend tho Van

[opal merlin]

do we have an expected time line when more of the map is going to be open?

[tame seal]

Somewhen between now and when it does.

[carmine scroll]

ya. 2026 at the latest.

[subtle prawn]

Latest whenever 1.0 releases

[quasi saffron]

Next update we'll get a new sub biome.
But dunno if it adds anything to the map

[quiet geyser]

Hey as long as we get this new revamp for the questing I'll be a happy guy for a couple months 😁

[tame seal]

You'll be happy? I find that a little hard to believe!

[wise grail]

Does it save that way?

[tame shoal]

I haven't actually placed a building piece using that method yet, I'm going to test it out this weekend

[wise grail]

Good luck

[cobalt gazelle]

hi, I am wondering how this game holds up single player?

[mint scroll]

i like the single player better

[wise grail]

You might have to change up your skills from time to time based on the situation

[cobalt gazelle]

hmm alright ty

[wise grail]

I usually switch to survivalist/endurance skill when I have to go and farm materials

[tame shoal]

I've gotten to end game single player, only coop I did was for the halls. Surviving is easy for me as I've done a nice balance between magic and melee skill tree mixing with majority being for magic

Always carry health potions and bandages and use block a lot and time your attacks

[safe swan]

Happy Friday, Flameborns! May your weekend be restful and calm! 🔥

[tame shoal]

I'm up to 1 hour and 16 minutes of comfort so I'm super restful 🥳

Rested bonus**

[quasi saffron]

I need more comfort

Should hang more pictures on the wall

[foggy veldt]

i dont think more pictures would do the trick. i think you need the furniture in the highest level with the bathroom and the best carpets + the heads of the big boss dudes in the best level

[quasi saffron]

I was memeing.
You tell me to rob a furniture store and get the head of the boss there.

Well...
CUB now has fridays off.
Toast got the best Pfp (not gonna lie)
Frog uh... Got character.

[quiet geyser]

is there any oficial merchandise in the hoven for this awesome game? tshirt, stickers, glass, poster, coaster, etc

[pliant quarry]

It's something we're thinking about, but not yet

[warm gull]

official enshrouded toothbrush for sale only 9.99

only 4 ever made come and get em

they have bristles on both sides!

[tacit spoke]

Anyone check out Soulmask?

[safe swan]

I would totally buy some merchandise if you guys ever make it happen!

[elder parrot]

2 meter tall vukah plushies! ^^

Ill stand 10 of them around my appartment and creep visitors out ^^

[round tree]

June tomorrow, Just so I know when to check, do they usually release their updates on Mondays?

[brittle iron]

I want a deercat plushie

[still quartz]

So I can brush both my top teeth and my bottom teeth at once?

Sign me up

It's always been a hassle having to make the small wrist movements to flip my normal ones back and forth

[pliant quarry]

Honestly if you guys have actual merch ideas feel free to send them in chat, it's something we've been actively brainstorming about lately lol

[worthy garden]

Fell halloween costumes xD

[woeful light]

acid axe

[safe swan]

T-shirts and mugs with the cover art for example. Or, Logo and Thunder Brute on the mug.

Coasters with Flame symbol.. ok I shut up now. xD is tired

[pliant quarry]

Nah I love it lol, we were looking for more ideas

I mean can't say we'll end up making all (or even most) of them, but the more ideas the better since we don't know what manufacturing costs and stuff would be yet.

[safe swan]

Well, I'm hopeful for any merch.

[prisma surge]

I want a life size flame alter for my front yard

[wise grail]

Why not a life sized chest?

[fading wolf]

i just cant help but wish there was a way to have more npc's in the game. I look at this beautiful world from a vantage point, and i can just imagine what it'd look like bustling with life. Like, even a way to be able to spawn prop "npc's" to give your bases or your restructured towns some feel of life or something

oh

[golden python]

oops wrong chat

[quasi saffron]

My idea!
These running mushrooms in green as plushie.

[prisma surge]

NPC's for your camp is on the roadmap

Like townspeople NPC's

And farm animals

[prisma surge]

How about we can tame them and bring them back to camp

[quasi saffron]

But we need a old, halfway breaking rope that'll hold them.

[woeful light]

1:1 scale, best merch:
#off-topic message

[fading wolf]

oh then hell yeah im happy

where can i find the roadmap btw?

[viral scarab]

Easiest way is to scroll up in the #news channel

[elder parrot]

I did! Vukah plushies ^^

[languid rampart]

i dont know yet if i want to play or should refund so many survival games promise so many things but then valheim has like 1 shopkeeper and only boss type quests

Im a bit wary

[viral scarab]

How about a shroud root lamp, bonus points if the tentacle bits on top wave around

[languid rampart]

basically I like minecraft but wants to have something to do and someone to trade with in SP

sorry ill take it to enshourded chat

[viral scarab]

The NPCs aren't traders exactly. They send you out on quests to bring back items/materials to advance the game futher and keep you exploring. There's lots to explore in the game, there's a good at least 50ish hours of content currently.

And that's if you don't do much building

[languid rampart]

Im just bad at building, valheim has tons of options for it but I get overwhelmed. But like in minecraft it's the only thing to do and you have to "create your own quests"

[viral scarab]

Yeah, Enshrouded is much better at directing you to go explore and do stuff. You'll get quests to go to specific areas and get things. You'll have to look around and explore, but you'll have a general idea of the area that you're supposed to go to.

The map also isn't a generated map, it's a bespoke map (like Skyrim), so you can also look for guides and stuff online if you get super lost.

The building is also fairly easy to wrap your head around once you get the construction hammer. There's no physics like in Valheim so if you want to just build yourself a big box to work out of, you totally can. There's no base raids or anything so you don't have to worry about doing funky stuff to defend it.

[languid rampart]

ok thanks, saw it on special and had it in my wishlist but didnt know what it was about exactly. Is this the right channel for further questions basically Id like to know if I have to build several houses/rebuilt one several time or if I can teleport to it like palworld . Like this would affect if I need to find a good spot before I make my 1st house

[tame seal]

Mouse pads, the large ones! 😄

[viral scarab]

Here, #getting-started and #enshrouded-chat are all good places to get info. You can teleport back to your base at any time as long as you aren't in the shroud. There's also no resource loss when building/deconstructing so you can mess around with how you want your build set up without any fear.

[languid rampart]

thanks trowing the first bomb now I remember why it was on my wishlist. Kinda wanted a digger/construction hybrid with nicer graphics than minecraft 🙂

[languid rampart]

keen games and keen software house (space engineers) are unrelated right ?

[viral scarab]

Yep, different companies

[languid rampart]

so it's been 2h now seems like a nice game

[cerulean shore]

anyone have a legendary white wolf sword and ring of the ancients they dont need?

[spring creek]

Any info been released on next update? Thinking of buying the game whilst on sale but been waiting for it to get more fleshed out

[snow plaza]

Even without the game being more fleshed out, there is enough content to keep you entertained for a while

Especially when you enjoy building
So I think it’s worth it
Especially now that is on sale

[west verge]

its definitely worth the sale price

[cerulean shore]

how rare is the legendary white wolf 😦

[upper galleon]

I like useful merch. Stuff that is not to put on some shelf but you can actually use in your everyday life. Like coffee mugs and t-shirts

I m practical and I m not the type to have shelves with gaming items and such

[languid rampart]

I believe that for a game called enshrouded merch have to let you enshroud yourself so hoodie are a must

• a pocket for the arduino with an lcd to show the shroud countdown IRL at least to yourself (ok that is mostly a j/k but I use that to show to me the time until the bus is there etc)

[upper galleon]

I like that.. Hoodies are useful

I live in Sweden so winter is cold.. so a scarf to go with the release of that mountain region (that I guess will have snow)

[languid rampart]

I live in canada so I cant put the money where my mouth is because the shipping and duties is gonna be 6x the cost of the hoodie so 😦

[carmine scroll]

i own way too many t-shirts but if they're 20-25 im down. 30 if you have a REALLY, REALLY cool image on it.
plushies are also fun but they're always more than I personally want to spend.
hoodies are nice but always seem to be super pricey and i wont even consider one without a zipper anymore. 99% of the time.

if merch is being made ya gotta make a plushie of your giant blue mascot though. XD

[languid rampart]

I did merch for someone before and yeah for most small operations they cost almost as much as they are reselling them. Like a 20$ mug would cost 15$ each for an order of 1000

[carmine scroll]

oof

[upper galleon]

Since the devs are based in Germany, so within EU and not to far from Sweden I think shipping will be okej for me

[languid rampart]

Of course we need a flame altar sculpture / trinket to put on a shelf as well (if possible with the building limit marker 🤣) to delimit our personal space in a building in which we are free to "build"/decorate IRL

[carmine scroll]

a flame altar sculpture would be sick.

[languid rampart]

yeah here in canada clothes from the EU might have a custom duties of up to 6x the original sale price

[safe swan]

Shroud man with a pod on his back. Turn it into a candle holder. Might be expense to make, but I don't know about candle making.

[languid rampart]

These probably wouldnt be standard offering so more expensive, as the altar but I suppose (I dont know the sales) that keen games might be more than a small operation and maybe they can have something custom made in volume in china etc

[gentle forum]

Not me wearing my enshrouded shirt right now

[viral scarab]

Tbh I'd just love a dark blue hoodie or zip up with the iconic E on it, and maybe the mural on our shirts on the back.

[vital topaz]

i support the Hoodie idea!

[gentle forum]

I have a ketchup stain on mine

[languid rampart]

Im not much for flashy shirts myself I prefer something simple with just a small print but I suppose some people will probably want a full skinned shirt with the color palette of the game

[vital topaz]

Or a Shirt with the mural on the front....

[gentle forum]

I support any color but white

[viral scarab]

What about "the" mushroom as a candle? 😝

[gentle forum]

What scent is it 🙈

[viral scarab]

"Elixir"?

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/togoro-yuyu-yuyuhakusho-togorobrother-gif-19736575

[outer walrus]

Obligatory merch request of any legwear

Shorts, Pants/Trousers, etc

Everyone just settles at shirts and that dosen't elet you get all merch-ed up

[viral scarab]

Shroud swim shorts feel suitably ironic

[gentle forum]

Shroud Swim team

[viral scarab]

Release them when they get water working? Could be a fun PR thing

[gentle forum]

Only if it’s speedos only

[languid rampart]

it's cool there is a suggestion website make players dont feel ignored for once 🙂

also avoid repetition and we can see what is the most requested features

[viral scarab]

Definitely. Also it feels good to see them get checked off

[gentle forum]

That’s something that has to be manually done though

[languid rampart]

make us feel even more listened to then 😄 Someone care enough to organize it at keen

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/pick-me-blake-shelton-the-voice-choose-me-over-here-gif-16888083

Other purples and CMs do it too

[languid rampart]

If im playing .locally on a so called "private server" and I use cheats/trainer I wont get into problems / VAC right since it doesnt affect anyone else right ? Or there is a central server with our level, xp, inventory etc ?

[viral scarab]

Nope, no server stuff to worry about.

[languid rampart]

Really like how everytime I see something in inventory Im reminded how to move stack etc where as in other survival game (like 7dtd and terraria) I havew to search for a while to find how to move stack or partial items from a stack

[devout hound]

any news for modding? really just want the enemy level cap to be higher

[tame seal]

You know the game isn't finished yet? As in, current content is not at max level yet.

[coral forum]

When is this new update coming out???

[tame seal]

When it does.

[brittle iron]

[olive jewel]

Yo guys im playin for the first time at the game but i have a lil problem: im playin barely on 20/30 max 40 fps. My graphic card is a 1650 and i have an i5 11 gen. Is it normal or should i check something? i also updated every driver ecc ecc

[brittle iron]

1650 is definitely on the low end for this game, probably even below recommended specs

[devout hound]

thanks very helpful

[quiet geyser]

Ya I got a 2070 and this game makes me wanna upgrade lol

[olive jewel]

a 1060 is recommended

i thought i was goin fine with a 1650

[jovial blaze]

I have a 1080 and I'm also struggling to have stable 55fps on "Performance" setting. Also no matter how high I put the settings theres always this horrible pixelated ghosting trail behind my character, especially when there is grass or foliage behind me. I'm finding the strange blurring really tiring on my eyes

[olive jewel]

yh soooo i just have to deal with low framerate i guess till upgrade my setup

[jovial blaze]

Can anyone explain shields? I'm finding it really hard to get my shield back up after dropping my guard. Is it to prevent you from spamming block to get successful parries?

[prisma surge]

That's actually intentional according to the devs. When your shield drops bringing it back up isnt immediate

So it encourages a little timing

[jovial blaze]

I have a longbow and a bow of the same level and the power level is the same, but the longbow uses stamina, does it have greater range or..?

[oak loom]

longbow is usually slower and uses more stam, but hits harder

[devout hound]

blackpowder guns would be dope

[tame seal]

1060 is minimum 2070 super is recommended.

[languid rampart]

and an howitzer cannon to dig large holes 🤣

[stuck sleet]

how is that melee patch coming?

[narrow topaz]

Hello 🫡

[quiet geyser]

You know when patch is coming? when they publish it 😄

but i do belive around 15th or 26th

so far around those two dates they are poping patches

[round tree]

Waiting for 2 things in June, Enshrouded update and HotD season 2

[quiet geyser]

I'm kinda excited to try out a new EA game called ASKA another survival game. Looks like valheim mixed with palworld and enshrouded

This will be in June

And of course I'm excited for the new content update 😆

[round tree]

Had a look at ASKA, looks promising but progression looks a lot slower

[quiet geyser]

As in takes longer to progress in the game?

Isn't that a good thing? More content? Stuff to do?

[round tree]

Looks more tedious to get basic stuff

[quiet geyser]

Ah gotcha

That's how I felt about v rising but I'm currently on my first playthrough at endgame fighting the last boss Dracula ( haven't killed him yet 2nd try will be tonight ) he isn't easy 🤣😂

Anyway this game is very big on Crafting stuff etc alot of grinding but I ended up loving this game my first time even playing a top down view game. Almost 70 hours in

[round tree]

I only watched one video, guy was struggling to build a 2 X 2 twigs shack and had to hang in there repairing it constantly during a storm. Made no sense to me as he came from the stars in a spaceship, no basic crafting gear in a survival pod...

[quiet geyser]

Interesting ya that don't sound too fun 🤣

[tame seal]

I played the demo of ASKA, yes for playing solo the gathering/building is very tedious. But you do get 'villagers' which will do most of the basic stuff for you over time. It does take a bit of patience to get started.

[elder parrot]

Aska doesnt feel at all like enshrpuded imo,
At the moment it lacks exploration excitement, which is a main strong point of enshrouded.

Very much build automation grind kinda vibe

[round tree]

Yeah, starter area looked very limited by mountains, only 2 directions to go.

[keen gale]

Hello, is there a way to make window with glass? Thank you.

[round tree]

Not yet

[keen gale]

Alright thank you

[round tree]

You can pretend they are very clean

[keen gale]

🤣 Alright

[primal moon]

just saw the update for the game and im excited, but still no 2h swords? great sword?

[round tree]

We have very few details of what will be in the update, only a few screenshots

[ruby yacht]

whats going on with the server ?

[elder parrot]

Which server?

[grand apex]

Spears!

[woeful light]

2h shields!

[shy portal]

Can I ask recommanded server hosting website here? I know there is no The best, just want to see what most ppl (some?) use to host a server other than their own pc.

[white orbit]

Guys

This is the first time since the game came out that I've been able to really get into it

I'm very excited

[white orbit]

[hard shore]

It's a fun game, I enjoy it.

[stable imp]

anyone tried Soulmask yet?

[mellow sun]

only 10 mins

[stable imp]

good?

[mellow sun]

cant remember was pretty drunk at the time 😛

[woeful light]

wonder if its made by keen

[stable imp]

understandable, sure

[mellow sun]

sry old man

does anyone knows if there will be mods in the future? not just for single player but for multiplayer as well?

[pseudo palm]

#game-faq message

[mellow sun]

👍

[viral scarab]

@hushed anvil If you're going to stream Enshrouded, please use the #self-promo channel.

[obtuse musk]

you know what would make enshrouded great? A firekeeper waifu who levels you up.

and if you do emojis in front of her, she giggles and/or dances.

[gentle forum]

No..

[lucid cape]

Dracula has been suffering after his wife left him it seems, he requires company

It's okay, we will find someone to assist you

[cunning hare]

are all the hosting servers in america

lol trying to play from australia to a friend hosted server in australia and my ping is 300-600

[tame seal]

I don't believe so, but you'd have to ask the server providers.

[cunning hare]

this is my friend hosting a server in australia and im connecting from australia

[tame seal]

THey are directly hosting it from their own machine?

[cunning hare]

yup

[tame seal]

Perhaps the server needs a restart or such.

[cunning hare]

we only just started

a quick google search looks like we are not alone and basically if youre not american you cant play hosted

i want a refund then, for myself and my two friends. '

[tame seal]

Good luck with that.

[cunning hare]

its unplayable

the host and his gf are on the same connection they have no issues but me on other side of aus i have 600

[tame seal]

Have you tried joining a server that isn't your friends?

[cunning hare]

im hosting now see if that works

[tame seal]

You're P2P?

[obtuse musk]

also

your connection probably bounces through a lot of locations

try VPN

it helped me on L4D 1 and 2

with p2p servers that is

not official ones

[cunning hare]

i can host for americans on my connection and vise versa and get tops 200ms and not janky teleport bounce crap ike this in every other game ive played

i host and lag is gone???

[odd bay]

For you it will be gone, what about your friends

[cunning hare]

75 ms and 130ms

wtf

[tame seal]

That makes it sounds like a conflict between your two connections (Probably ISP related)

[cunning hare]

ok i retract my demands for a refund 😂

[tame seal]

People always demand too soon :p

Google searches are bad to get accurate information from ^^

[cunning hare]

thats why i asked here as well

ty for help ❤️

[tame seal]

You might find, trying it a few days later and it'll be the same with your friend hosting.

[obtuse musk]

also try setting your default DNS to google DNS

that helps with connectivity

[hollow solar]

Anybody played the ASKA Demo? I think if Enshrouded would have this feature for your villagers this would be amazinǵ!

[gentle forum]

bought a new desk chair and still cant get comfy

[ionic hemlock]

Gotta wait for your butt and back prints to form into the chair

[crude jungle]

hi

[umbral thicket]

hi

Guys, does anyone know when there will be a new update?

[tame seal]

At some point in the future.

[bleak mango]

anyone suggest this game ?

[crude jungle]

i am this game

[fair walrus]

highschool of the dead 2!? thought the author died or smt o_o u sure?

[round tree]

Georges RR Martin is not dead but when you take into account how long it has taken him to write Winds of Winter, you might ponder if he has died and been replaced by a look alike. 😄

[obtuse musk]

I don't think GRRM will finish his story

I think he was thoroughly repulsed by the fans reaction to the rushed story in the HBO show.

the ASOIAF IP can't wash off that stain that easily.

I believe that at some point in the future, we're going to have a bunch of posthumous ASOIAF appendices like the Tolkien's history of middle earth appendices.

[woeful light]

soon they will start replacing people with ai/robots and no one will know

[tame seal]

People already don't know.

[woeful light]

assuming there are people left

[tame seal]

A handful.

[worthy garden]

Sometimes I think I'm an AI

Then I load up Enshrouded and everythings good again

[woeful light]

thats why we find entertainment in simulations of people, they are actually training programs to be more human

[worldly gate]

I Know u guys ´r tired to answering this but
When ´ll the daggers att come out?

[slim cypress]

Next update it looks like. not sure when that is, all they said is june. so soon tm

[round tree]

I see 2 other possibilities, he will release Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring at the same time soon (Very Unlikely) or some other author(s) will complete the saga after is death. It's a cash cow, I think his succession will milk it when he is gone.

[quiet geyser]

how come my lore pages counter is at 11 and wiki mentions a total of 12 but i still have 2 pages to find ( hidden crafting recipes #1 and #3 )

[worldly gate]

Thxs 🙂

[slim cypress]

Np

[gentle forum]

No

[arctic anvil]

Any sneek peeks to whats coming in june, or what to expect maybe?

Somethin like that?

[gentle forum]

There’s been several posted on socials

[rugged tendon]

is there any information about when the game will leave early access?

[noble anchor]

Not at this time, but the plan was originally a year

Plans can change.

[elfin needle]

Are we going to see the game at any gaming conventions next week?

[noble anchor]

Considering it's already in EA, probably not.

[languid rampart]

unless it was a game dev event theyd announce it on social media especially considering how much it costs for companies to have a space in those

[quiet geyser]

can somebody explain me what the "dont show small spiders" thing does?

as in, which spiders does it remove, which ones doesnt it remove?

[devout hound]

Will there ever be a feature to rename flames?

[noble anchor]

The small ones that crawl out of urns when you break them.

[quiet geyser]

alright. Thank you. Theres no way to get rid of any other ones yet?

[noble anchor]

Not yet, no.

Most of the feedback was, "The big ones don't bother me, but the small ones from the urn freak me out."

So they gave us the option to remove the small ones.

[woeful light]

arent they silverfish anyway?

[quiet geyser]

an actual reason to refund, ngl - for me at least. I dont understand why they wouldnt just have an option to get rid of all of them. I dont mind spiders in other games, but the ones here are certainly getting me every time

[worthy garden]

charlotte sad spooder noises

[quiet geyser]

DONT DO ME LIKE THAT BEFORE BEDTIME

[worthy garden]

chuckles I'm in danger

[severe bloom]

do we know if the devs have plans for using seed generative tech?

seems weird you have a voxel building game and no seed-based world generation

[woeful light]

yeah sigh

[severe bloom]

i feel like the replayability would go up significantly with that feature alone

theres a reason i have 400 hours into valheim

[worthy garden]

Would that mean we'd have to start a new game when new biomes are added like valheim?

[gentle forum]

Considering that the world is hand built, how would seeded random generation work?

Completely unnecessary additional workload to implement something like that when it could be better spent on new content.

[severe bloom]

i mean it would work like every other seed gen game.

[willow moth]

we need to have the option to put more than 1 blacksmith...

did they think about it ?

[severe bloom]

and anything you want anchored content wise would be anchored to a general area

[gentle forum]

Enshrouded is more story focused than other games.

[worthy garden]

I like the world as is

[gentle forum]

Doesn’t make any sense to try and force randomly generated content into the game.

[severe bloom]

games can still have a story arc with seed generation though

[viral scarab]

Yeah, but they have to kind of be built around it.

[severe bloom]

right

[opal dirge]

It's on the roadmap

[willow moth]

where can i see the roadmap ?

[silk wave]

anyone figure out a way to complete the first ancient towers quest?

[opal dirge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047448895287992320/1217474534949781574/EN_ROADMAP_FINAL.png?ex=66042884&is=65f1b384&hm=b6a92fb982939fbc63899a8a67fa08234ef25156ba421e24b4e68481adbaa138&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2634&height=2634

in case somebody needs a even more really close view of the roadmap - youre able to further enlarge it by editing the url (2634x2634 into something bigger)

Not sure if that will work

But if you google it, it will come up

[vapid flint]

Someone is griefing in the resource server

[flint smelt]

No, I hate procedurally generated maps, they are always shallow and uninspiring. We have plenty of that already , Enshrouded is a breath of fresh air in this genre. I wouldn't be interested in this game if that was the case, and I still managed to clock 300 hours in here

[severe bloom]

how are you deriving so much play time?

[flint smelt]

Building a city

[silk wave]

can't do that on a procedural map!

[flint smelt]

Not interested in doing that in a procedural map. Lacks too much character and personality to me, Enshrouded tells a story I want to be a part of

I couldn't enjoy valheim and palworld's worlds, exploration felt barren and I had no sense of wonder

[vapid flint]

I think procedurally generated instanced repeatable dungeons would probably be the solid middle ground, maybe based on some kind of consumable item that opens a portal or something lazy like that. You get the same gameplay that currently exists with the option to change up the gameplay a bit

[silk wave]

honestly Id be happy if this game just allowed me to complete basic main quests at the beginning of the game

Im not sure the devs can handle proceduralism at this rate

[flint smelt]

I would personally skip those dungeons then haha, I just have no interest in randomized content. I don't play most survival and roguelike games because I find their worlds boring the majority of the time and the way levels are designed is something I care about in games, get a lot of enjoyment out of that phase. Enshrouded is just what I want in this genre.. I'm digging the roadmap and what the devs are doing

I would uninstall it and move on immediately if it goes in another direction lol

[vapid flint]

That's the great think about a feature like that, it's optional

[silk wave]

No but he doesn't want ANYONE to have access to those features

[vapid flint]

For example it could be a new npc that's added as an additional feature

[flint smelt]

I'm speaking for myself, not sure where you got that

[silk wave]

How can he have fun if I have access to randomized content?

[flint smelt]

Oh dear, k

[silk wave]

I got your back, Rem

[flint smelt]

I get it, there's a huge audience for it but that would mean that they'd have to design a lot of the game features around it to fit I'd think, that changes a game if it's not built with these concepts in mind, it would fundamentally change how they handle a lot of other features, treasures/loot, etc etc

Meant to reply to the msg before it, guess that could work too

[round tree]

They definitely plan to do something like that with the portal at the pillars I think.

[flint smelt]

Possible! I would hope it's part of the post game rather than the core experience

[worthy garden]

randomly generated online portal worlds 🤔

[severe bloom]

thats really where its at for me

[round tree]

They have a plan for instanced dungeons on their road map

[severe bloom]

the ability to change it up

otherwise its fixed content and it eventually gets boring

[round tree]

and world events, whatever that is

[flint smelt]

I think what I failed to get through is that I just don't like procedural maps, out of preference. I love exploration and I love it even more when the developers care for details, tell environmental stories, and so on. When maps are randomized they lose that

That was one of the main features that pulled me in, the best time I had in Enshrouded was exploration and discovery

[round tree]

A mix of both is fine, if they do it in optional dungeons I am fine with that

[languid rampart]

I dislike the lava so much 😦

I have no idea where Im going in the shround and having to start over sucks

[woeful light]

yeah and If everytime you visit someone elses world its that fresh new experience that would be perfect

[flint smelt]

what I'd love to see is players having ability to build dungeons and levels that's more the kind of post game I'd hope for here

[languid rampart]

if I could build all over the world without the need for altar Id be happy already

Like stairs over a cliff face so I can walk all over with a now for emergency with a couple of wooden arrows in the middle of it in case of cliffracer something

[silk wave]

I disagree entirely

[sacred creek]

I feel like procedural maps lack real point of interest and just popping structures out of nowhere, and gets repetitive real fast.

[languid rampart]

is that sarcasm ?

[silk wave]

absolutely not, no way

[languid rampart]

Not sure with your nickname that's why

[woeful light]

I would like that too, change altars to campfires: keep the teleporting. can only place npcs near a campfire

[silk wave]

I'd never use sarcasm to answer questions about sarcasm, not sarcastically, anyway

[languid rampart]

the lava and the endless cliff face to find a path like looking for a needle in a haystack take the fun out of exploring for me

• if you fall into lava you cant get your inventory back grrrr

[arctic anvil]

is blackmire a new area ?

[flint smelt]

I wondered if that was about design or game performance

[languid rampart]

Must be because of MP and having to transfer all these customizations to someone else

but compared to my insecurity about not looking correctly because there is no tooltip with what is on the ground like in diablo 3 that's nothing Id rather have that first personally

I guess my argument doesnt work becauise if you tunneled all over that must be transferred to connected client too so adding building wouldnt add much data

[silk wave]

I disagree entirely

[round tree]

I think so, entrance seems to be through a mountain

[arctic anvil]

at last 🥹

[gentle forum]

At last what

[arctic anvil]

new area

[gentle forum]

Keep in mind that the level cap will not be increased

There’s still a good bit of content in there, I had tons of fun in there. Lots of interesting stuff.

[tribal patrol]

hey there any1 got an altar next to sunken temple?

[worthy garden]

awh i was hoping lvl cap would increase

[warm mural]

So I just went on a multiplayer server and some dude gave me a sword that does 7000 damage, am I obligated to burn it

[silk wave]

If you hate fun - keep it

[hard shore]

This game needs gnomes.

[silk wave]

I wont play another minute until this game gets gnomes

[hard shore]

Gnome DLC.

[silk wave]

$45 gnome expansion!

[hard shore]

I'd buy it.

[silk wave]

gnome season pass?

[hard shore]

[silk wave]

I want full hardcore goblincore

[tribal patrol]

hey any1 can help me get the ghost glider?

[woeful light]

didnt they change it? I think you have to do a quest now.

[gentle forum]

you can just go grab it, nothing is really gated by quests

save things like npcs and hallow halls

[devout hound]

This is why this game needs mod’s

[golden crystal]

Good morning you lovely people!

[worthy garden]

Gutan Nogs

[ornate swift]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-wave-bye-gif-1707214696221153840

[prisma frost]

guten morgen

[digital cloak]

Lol wrong server

[tame seal]

Late to the conversation but just throwing it out there. I agree randomised proc gen can be fun and i do enjoy it too myself, but i wouldn't necessarily call it better/longer lasting/more fun than a singular, crafted environment. Most proc gen simply doesn't have enough to keep it 'fresh' the same 5 building blocks just rearranged in a different order, does get tedious in itself after a while, all it does is change the circle you're running (And makes that circle longer...)

[subtle prawn]

I don't really see proc gen helping Enshrouded, the POIs would just end up looking the sameish looking at you Valheim

[tame seal]

I could see them using it in future aspecs, but it'll be on a limited basis i'd imagine. As in, it'll most likely be something instanced and not in the main world.

[subtle prawn]

For instanced dungeons it would make sense ala Hades and the way they use it rn for the worldmap creation

[signal ocean]

hey gang

what's good

[graceful barn]

Good morning...

[signal ocean]

oooh dot dot dot

so ominous

[graceful barn]

Ha... Old habit... Since the days of mIRC... Not good, not bad... Just is...

[golden crystal]

Hey CUB!

[tame seal]

Hey, CUB. How was your long weekend?

[signal ocean]

exhausting, I've been building an enclosure for the cats

lots of eyeballing measurements and cutting and re-cutting poles and fencing and looking for hardware in various spots around the city and repurposing it for my needs.

thank god I can rest now

[hardy kindle]

Hello hello

[tame seal]

Oh that does sound like quite the busy weekend!

Hey, Frog!

[quiet geyser]

I like the idea of there being portals ALA portal knights, which we know they like too. Big fan of stargate, I used to fool around in gary's mod making gates to random builds and places just to make gates to places. Fast travel from anywhre outside the shroud is cool, but if I had gates between bases it'd just be like one BIG base I could run down hallways and be all the way at another base.

Could have a farm, little fortress place, mage towar, and a underground dwarf hole all linked up.

I mean, you can already just hop fire to fire, but ya know.

[quasi saffron]

Hi. Feeling sick today. This royalty will rule from his bed today.
Also... It'll still be a busy week.

[subtle prawn]

Hey Van

[vestal stag]

totally agree, to me proceduraly generating stuff is a lazy dev's version of trying to make a game and making a roguelike 👀

yes, there are some REALLY good procedurally generated games (no man's sky for instance, which is 101% proceduraly generated) and roguelikes (binding of isaac, risk of rain...), but many times a well crafted game with its own touches of love and quality are a thousand times better

and tbh we had quite a few years of those, it's time to good old "let's start a new save and have the same map as all the other times ffs"

[celest palm]

Hey to anyone alse wands feel like they have a very short range?

Also each wand feels like throwing a bubble out of your wand, I'd appreciate if some wands had (A laser like) projectiles.

[quiet geyser]

Stupid question but is there spells?

Like some mage fireball stuff

Big fire

Big damage

[ionic hemlock]

They have a short range because of their dps

[tame seal]

Yes there are spell and yes some go boom.

Some even go zap, whilst others gurgle in the melting pit kind of way.

[elder parrot]

Good late morning (ive slept long)

[subtle prawn]

Good afternoon

[elder parrot]

It was gonna be only 24c today, and it is, but it still feels so warm even under clouds.
So, yet again i am packing bike for forestlake

But first wakeup smoke right now (dont smoke its silly and dumb) ^^

[deft pulsar]

Yeah they're considered a mid ranged weapon, staves and bows are long ranged weapons, that balances it out since wands don't require charges or ammo

[tame seal]

Wands are honestly OP.

[elder parrot]

I am a 159cm shortrange weapon ^^ im super OP too

Tho im highly ineffective at degrees over 20c ^^

[subtle prawn]

Especially with blocking which does cancel the attack

[deft pulsar]

That honestly such an amazing suggestion. Making a wand that has a continuous beam but the durability of it drains faster

I'd love that

[subtle prawn]

So that break after 1 boss fight?

[deft pulsar]

25% of the boss fight 😊

Or 50% Okay

[elder parrot]

For me shooting magic makes games feel like an fps and i dont wanna play fps ^^

[subtle prawn]

So wands would be useless then?

[deft pulsar]

No it's a special wand

The rest of the wands stay the same

But this new one with the beam has a continuous beam that drains more durability

[subtle prawn]

25% of a boss is absolutely no damage tho

[elder parrot]

Sword and board ftw!

[deft pulsar]

Then more % I guess

I just don't wanna make it too op

[ionic hemlock]

Magic is always superior

[deft pulsar]

Cause otherwise it would just melt the boss HP immediately

[subtle prawn]

You can't move while attacking, so you're very fast dead

[tame seal]

Nah, don't make it lose durability, just have it using your mana instead, that'll balance it more than durability.

[deft pulsar]

Well yeah but remember there's teammates there to bait the boss

[deft pulsar]

Oh thissssss

THIS THIS

Tho

That reminds me of the lightning channel

[subtle prawn]

Not every one plays with teammates tho ^^

[deft pulsar]

There's no difference now

[deft pulsar]

Yeah true

[subtle prawn]

Bonk hammer ftw

[tame seal]

The wand you can still move around with.

[ionic hemlock]

I beat the game 100% solo I dont have any friends to play with

[deft pulsar]

Like you completed every quest?

[elder parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1105417250065879150/1247147617369194496/20240601_143657.jpg?ex=665ef83a&is=665da6ba&hm=bf3a414625798ab72afb73df93344aa401fcee93d95abc13607f83495033f821&

Guards on the path to lake yesterday!

[lofty trench]

guys should i buy enshrouded

[gentle forum]

buy it twice just in case

[ionic hemlock]

You need to buy it atleast 5 times, just to make sure you don't get a bugged version.

[deft pulsar]

Yes

[golden crystal]

If you like to build in voxel style, explore a giant map, farm items and fight with enemies with a sword, bow or magic, then yes. If you want to run around with a Pistol or M4 and shoot enemies, this will not be your game.

[lofty trench]

i dont like guns because my mouse aim is suck

im better at coop games but not pvp

[subtle prawn]

There's no pvp in this Game, so more to your liking

[quick fog]

anxiously awaiting the update this month!

[ionic hemlock]

It's not coming, it's been canceled. Lack of funding. Studio is shutting down now.

[golden crystal]

Then Enshrouded sounds like a perfect game for you! 🙂

[vocal elm]

This is a very good and sound advise.

[quick fog]

Lol, worst thing about this message is that if it were some other studios early access game I would not be surprised in the slightest

Sad trend but the enshrouded kings have more integrity

[quasi saffron]

I heard Enshrouded Kings. Someone called?

[forest yarrow]

Is there any roadmap point for PvP ?

And if so how far/close is it?

I would consider buying this game if there would be PvP integration

[vital topaz]

At this moment in time, to the Best of my knowledge, PvP is not planned as you can read here: #game-faq message

It has been requested as a feature though.

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[cobalt gazelle]

So kind of random but since this game is early access do we have to worry about world and/or character saves getting corrupted?

Or wiped

[vital topaz]

!wipes

[river tree]

About Server Wipes & Character Resets...

... On the topic of "wipes", we do not have any plans to force wipes at any time. However being early access and being that a LOT will change and be added to the game over time, we can't guarantee that there might not be a major update that requires old saves to break.

Also being that so much is changing, there is always the chance that an update might break old saves, so I recommend backing up saves you really care about if this would be something that is the end of the world for you as a player.

But yeah, we're not planning on intentionally doing this, but we also can't guarantee it will "never happen" either, since there's a lot of unknown variables in the future.

-- via @Toast
Updated: 2/6/24

REMINDER THIS IS AN EARLY ACCESS GAME.

[hardy kindle]

nope

[pliant quarry]

my commands puttin in work today

[vital topaz]

!yes

[cobalt gazelle]

Ty sir/maam

[bleak notch]

Any speculation as to when the June patch comes out?

[vital topaz]

Server is still missing some commands though!

[hardy kindle]

[pliant quarry]

But yeah "wipes" as you might know them from like, mmos or something, won't be a thing. Saves are hosted locally. There's just a chance saves might break for unexpected reasons, or a chance that you might want to start a new save after a massive update or something.

[vital topaz]

Pssst.... ||June, dont tell anyone! ||

[elder parrot]

As long as they sweep, broom and dust their homes properly right?
If its too dirty maybe wipes are needed 🤭

[tame shoal]

Idk what it is, but drinking a big cup of black coffee and playing Enshrouded hits the dopamine spot hard in my brain

[ionic hemlock]

Someone dosed your coffee

[tame shoal]

Even better

[warm fossil]

Anyone else having troubles plying coop even though you are in the same country as the one you are playing with? Would appreciate some help on this matter

[vocal elm]

No trouble at all, even with different Countries. I play with others from Germany and Austria.

[warm fossil]

And you just host a regular coop session? Have you tried bringing items over or do you just start anew?

[vocal elm]

We mostly use a gportal server and there is no problem to bring things from my single player game, or from any other server.

[warm fossil]

Oh well I was talking about you hosting coop from ur save. Not a server

What is a gportal server

[vocal elm]

I did this as well, and there was never a problem.

gportal is just a service where you can rent a server, so you do not have to host all the time. It is easier when you play with several people, so everybody can play whenever they want. To have a computer running at home is not always possible, so you have to time session, this can be tricky. There are many other services out there where you can rent a server.

There is one problem I run into from time to time, if I jump from server to server to fast, cause I have forgotten something, it can happen that I need to restart Enshrouded. If you can not enter a server (hosted by a friend or a company) ask them to restart their computer (server).

[warm fossil]

What hosting service are you using

[cobalt gazelle]

I had good experiences with gportal but tbh kind of pricy imo for what it is

[vocal elm]

I use gprotal. It is not the cheapest out there, but ver reliable. Easy to manage as well, even if you are not tech-savvy.

[cobalt gazelle]

Also make sure you regularly save the files locally, I lost a valheim server to them while I was still paying

[dull citrus]

Oh my gooodness. Can someone tell me what causes plants to go poof when i try to place them?? I have been meaning to ask and keep forgetting and it’s driving me insane lol

[vocal elm]

You can get it for 2 or more players, even adjust at any time.

[vocal elm]

You plant them at places where they can't grow. Not enough soil for example.

[dull citrus]

See that’s where i am unsure because i stick some flower dirt down first usually and still have issues.

Is there a minimum surface area/depth of soil i need??

[vocal elm]

use normal soil no flower dirt

[dull citrus]

Sometimes it seems like i can place them anywhere lol. Okay. Not farm soul either yeah? Just plane jane dirt?

[vocal elm]

You can use the enriched one as well. You can also use any place within you flame altar that has grass.

[dull citrus]

I swear im losing my mind 😂

[vocal elm]

enriched soil will even speed up the time your plants need to grow! 😄

[vocal elm]

nah, we all have been there, done that! 😄

[dull citrus]

Oh look… they didn’t disappear 🫠

[vocal elm]

YAY!!

[dull citrus]

Lmao ty dirt and NOT the pretty flower soil will be my go to from now on

In theory i can cover it with flower soil after the fact though so i still get the layering/bushyness

I finally figured out i can desnely plant an area, just have to let things grow first

[tame seal]

Any specifics about what problems you're having?

[vocal elm]

You can try. It may work. Maybe it will even work with the Z key when they are ripe, but this only good so many times. So to get a large field it may take time and several tries.

[warm fossil]

Well when I host my game runs fine but my friend get crazy backlash

Like tping backwards

[tame seal]

Rubber banding.

The last person i saw having that issue, was using a WiFi hotspot for their connection, please tell me you're not?

[tame shoal]

Does anyone know if an in-game text chat system will be introduced?

[gentle forum]

I don’t remember if it’s on the roadmap, but it may be in the future.

[bleak notch]

In all honesty, if the patch is going to be released in June, then I hope we will get an update of when that patch is going to come out.

[gentle forum]

Soon

[tame seal]

It will come out when it comes out.

[gentle forum]

Within the next few weeks, relax.

[bleak notch]

Relaxing 🙂

[ionic hemlock]

Ban the next person that says update lol.

Actually just forbid that word in general

[gentle forum]

I don’t think we’ll do that

[celest palm]

Even having a something like a crit thing, e.g you use your wands 3 times and on 4 time it hits with a beam, it would add dynamic to the wand fighting

[coarse moth]

Hi, I'm very much new to the discord, is there a suggestions box?

I would really love to see more "subclasses" perse branching off the skill tree~

One example would be necromancer which works like beastmaster but without the beasts, also focuses more on increasing stuff like dot damage and poison

Also, some sort of "Horse" or mount blessed by the flame would be lovely~ Perhaps like a manifestation of the flameborn's spirit so after into making the necessary things to make it or it's crafting station, the user can pick it's form?

Anyway yeah I have lots of ideas ahahahaha

[tame seal]

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[celest palm]

Since there's no way of adding a feature request, here's my little piece of feedback on wands (Played with wands up to 25level).

Using wands feels like shooting a bubble out of your wand that hits an enemy target. It gets boring pretty quickly. There is no fun in spamming your mouse button to kill an enemy and shooting different colored bubbles (particles), depending on wand type.

My suggestion is to make the fight more engaging by adding a chance (or every x hits with a wand) to make a critical hit that would shoot a beam out of the wand, dealing continuous damage (this would use mana), and ending the cast with a small explosion, dealing damage to nearby enemies (this would also require mana to perform).

[ionic hemlock]

that would just make the op wands more op

[tame seal]

So make the wand even more OP than it already is? 😄

[foggy veldt]

there is a way to post feedback https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1060229540594593883

[noble anchor]

We heard you liked OP wands, so we added some more OP to your OP.

[foggy veldt]

look at the link in the last message

[noble anchor]

The site is currently closed to new feedback

[tame seal]

Don't forget the OP, it wouldn't be OP if it weren't OP.

[celest palm]

This could be a skill to invest in game but still I feel like wands are missing something

[foggy veldt]

ah okay ty for letting me know

it is a cool idea but it would be better if it would be a new type of spell for the staff

[ionic hemlock]

I want my wand to turn into a lightsaber.

[bleak mango]

can anyone give me this game as a gift?

[ionic hemlock]

I can but itll be a $29.99 processing fee

[bleak mango]

to expensive

[foggy veldt]

i want my wand to burn the tiny ginger npc

[upper merlin]

So I haven't played since Feb, some friends made a server (has it's own special issues) so I made a new character to join them.. I can't get past the first sentence of the opening, either on the server or a fresh private save.
Is the game jsut totally fluffin broken now?

[ionic hemlock]

its totally fluffed

[upper merlin]

very fluff

[tame seal]

The games in (mostly) perfect working order for the large percentage. What happens?

[upper merlin]

It gets to the end of the first sentence on the video, sometimes not even to the end, and just goes black and boots me to the main menu.. Friends were having the same problem with new characters.

[bleak mango]

I bought 10 $

in your country 30 usd ?

[foggy veldt]

did you bought it from steam ?

[bleak mango]

yes

12 USD

I calculate right now

[foggy veldt]

there is a sale i think

[bleak mango]

Idk its showing original price

how much did u pay ?

[foggy veldt]

i paid 30 euros

[bleak mango]

maybe different country price policy

I'm from Czech Rep. but living in Taiwan

[foggy veldt]

yes maybe

[bleak mango]

so I bought 399 NTD $

its 12 usd

[foggy veldt]

ah thats cool

then enjoy this cool game for 12 USD 👍

[subtle prawn]

What are your system specs?

[tame seal]

That's honestly not a problem i've heard before.

[ionic hemlock]

Game is fluffed

[subtle prawn]

Some people had it months ago, don't remember the cause tho

[upper merlin]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
AMD Ryzen 9
32GB ram

Good enough for every single other game I play with no issues.. 🙂

[tame seal]

Have you validated your game files?

[upper merlin]

Yeah just did that, no change.

[tame seal]

Graphics drivers and such up to date i assume?

[upper merlin]

Yup, checked everything :/

[subtle prawn]

Could give !minidump in #troubleshooting a try

[upper merlin]

Will have a lookey, ty guys. 🙂

[subtle prawn]

If that wouldn't happen maybe there is a log which reveals more, from my search it mostly happened with cards below the minimum but that doesn't go for a 2060 Super

[upper merlin]

Hrm yeah, it didn't happen back when I was playing previously and I haven't down or upgraded anything, Exact same specs.

[subtle prawn]

Could you check if there are any logs and post the latest into #troubleshooting?

[upper merlin]

Yeah I'll have a look tomorrow tho, it's 2AM, need to do the bed thing soon.

[subtle prawn]

Good night then

[upper merlin]

Heh, cheers for the help, I'll try again tomorrow 🙂

[cobalt aspen]

Happens when you join a server and you started another world before. Just restarting enshrouded should work.

[devout hound]

minecraft would disagree, but i do agree with the fact that not everyone like that kind of gameplay and it should be optional, the devs i hope understand how important mod support is for this game, like if you could just make a mod that opens a portal into a gen seed world and the devs wouldnt even have to bother with doing it them selfs and they could make what makes them happy which is better for everyone, roadmap looks really good tho better than most EA, but i still want guns in my game.....

[devout hound]

its would be best it you could keep the proc gen world from the story driven world 100%

[devout hound]

that not true all the time tho just look at minecraft

[devout hound]

yes 100%

[tame seal]

You've got the Toast typing....

[devout hound]

😩

[pliant quarry]

Proc gen isn't lazy, but it does have significant downsides. It's a very useful tool for smaller teams or solo devs looking to create much larger worlds than they could realistically hand-craft, but if hand-crafting is an option it tends to give a much more cohesive and high quality experience.

It would also be an entirely different system to setup and build, so I don't think it would come any time soon if we ever did it.

[lethal rune]

i don't like fantasy combined with guns personally

so was never all in on final fantasy for example, found it wierd

and typically not a fan of guns anyway

[devout hound]

i totes agree, i feel like this game tho would out live minecraft if it had seeds and mods and that saying something

[lethal rune]

steampunk themes can be okay, but then you need a whole world built around that.

[woeful light]

imo the solution is to make hand crafted modules and blend them into proc-gen environments, you just need to establish rules by which these modules are populated

[devout hound]

thats why this game needs mods so we both can be happy

[tame seal]

We get it, you want this game to be a graphically better minecraft 😄

[broken tartan]

guys, do you have lag issues in multiplayer too? we play with 4 friends, host got a 4k nasar tower

[devout hound]

solution:mods

[devout hound]

no i want it to be 1000 times better

[broken tartan]

or do i need a dedicated server?

[pliant quarry]

Realistically if we implemented proc-gen, I imagine it would probably some form of like, dungeon or realm system or something, rather than an entirely different game mode.

I'm not a designer though. But to me that'd make the most sense, rather than essentially splitting the playerbase in half.

Also would make way more sense for the story and world-building side of things lol

[lethal rune]

proc gen in theory could be better than hand craft, but you'd need an amazing generation system, you linked something from unreal that looked really good.

[woeful light]

oh dungeons and an "underworld"

[devout hound]

its should be tied to the story like endgame stuff, like you beat a boss and open a portal to the proc stuff

[tame seal]

If you take a game like Planet Crafter for example, they have the portal which takes you to a proc gen 'area on the planet' The main area doesn't change. I could see something similar working in Enshrouded, if anything at all.

[lethal rune]

wow spoilers for planet crafter

i didnt get that far yet

[devout hound]

yeah i would love that!

[tame seal]

But then you're forcing those who may not like proc gen to do it.

[devout hound]

not if it side content

[pliant quarry]

It depends on the goal more than anything, if your goal is to tell a story or guide the player along a specific journey, it will probably never be the best option.

But games with emergent story, for example like, rimworld, dwarf fortress, minecraft (kinda), yeah it's great. In terms of players "carving their own path" or creating their own story, if anything I'd say it's the more ideal system.

[lethal rune]

if you're linear game then yeah

or if you're dnd i guess

but for sandbox builders/crafting proc gen could be superior

in theory

i don't know if it is yet

[tame seal]

I cant ever see proc gen being better than hand crafted, realistically, it would simply take 100 times longer than it would to hand craft a world.

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I mean like anything in game design it depends more on what you do with it. Same way that open world games are not objectively better than level based or linear ones

[lethal rune]

did you see the unreal video?

[tame seal]

I've seen plenty, you'd have to be more specific.

[lethal rune]

orginally posted by toast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj60HHy-Kqk&t=111s

but they allow for proc gen with seemless hand crafting on top of it

[pliant quarry]

(the nanite polygons are hand-crafted in that example, but they do show some of their proc gen later on in the video)

[devout hound]

that looks great

seed gen isnt everyone cup of tea clearly but its fact that adding it would make the game sell better

[pliant quarry]

but yeah there's already some pretty good looking solo UE5 projects flying around out there. To be honest when you know what to look for it's fairly obvious that they're kind of "asset flippy", but I think some devs are gonna make a lot of money before players start figuring that out lol

[tame seal]

Oh hell yea, UE5 can do fantastic things. My 'issue' with proc gen is there generally speaking isn't enough to keep me as interested in the environment, it's a 'handful' of assets repeated over and over.

[devout hound]

on paper yes but if done well it could make things you wouldnt have thought of

[lethal rune]

yep, thats why i say in theory it can be better, you maybe need a way to increase the entropy/chaos/randomness

[dry otter]

So it's next step afetr Tesselation tech?

[pliant quarry]

Also UE5 can't really handle voxels like our game, at least I haven't seen anyone do it

It has proc gen, but it's more like proc gen world assets, not voxels

[devout hound]

its all about how its coded

[devout hound]

thers always a way..

[tame seal]

That's my point. it CAN be done really well... but very few will spend the time and effort to make it that good, for various reasons.

[pliant quarry]

nvm looks like Lay of the Land is going to be built in UE5, guess we'll see how well it runs

[lethal rune]

yeah right now proc gen requires someone to handcraft tons of assets to make the proc gen unique

but maybe in the future an algorithm or AI will just create the assets

[pliant quarry]

Kinda, it's not really something the engine is built for, so you'd sorta be shoehorning it into UE5. Part of why we went with a fully custom engine for our game (and because it's what our devs are most comfortable with)

[woeful light]

that fibonacci though

[tame seal]

Oh no... Valourant wants AI to make games. /cry

[devout hound]

again i feel like i have to scream this.....MODS! the devs can work on what makes them happy and the modders can make new content for people that want it

[tame seal]

Has anyone denied mods?

[lethal rune]

i don't necessarily want that, but it could be that's where it's headed in 100 years

[devout hound]

you dont have to run it thro UE5 its a custom engine theres a way to make it work well 100%

[devout hound]

50/50

[lethal rune]

the idea that you can proc gen from AI art, and then hand craft on top of that to customize areas, would be the best of both worlds

[pliant quarry]

Oh I mean yeah, hence why we're a custom engine but that also means we don't have access to a lot of the pretty UE5 tech like nanite or whatever other stuff they've been cooking up lately

[lethal rune]

hand crafting takes many hours and hard work, whereas proc generation in the future could take 1 hour to make a whole scene.

[devout hound]

it doesnt need that extra stuff the game looks so good as is

[tame seal]

I beg of you to not continue this line of conversation before it turns into an argument :p

[devout hound]

who hates AI?

[lethal rune]

AI isn't even real AI

it doesn't have sentience

[tame seal]

. . .

[devout hound]

how?

[woeful light]

current state: snake oil

[lethal rune]

it's just an advanced algorithm really

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I've noticed generative AI has had the unique ability to cause even more heated arguments than politics in discord chats for the past year lol

[lethal rune]

i forget the scientific term for it

but AI is a misleading term

[tame seal]

Hence the reason i suggested not talking about it and what do people do? 😄

[lethal rune]

the most advanced "AI" we have now, is not really defined as AI, there is another term

[pliant quarry]

[gentle forum]

can generative ai generate me a will to live

[lethal rune]

i just don't think it should lead to arguments, plus we all agree people deserve jobs, and AI can be bad (we all saw terminator)

[dry otter]

Machine learning network

[devout hound]

yes

[pliant quarry]

I think that's what the anime chatbot AIs are for

[gentle forum]

down with AI

[lethal rune]

yeah maybe more accurate

[gentle forum]

i'd pay for TLC to just be AI

[devout hound]

yep!

[pliant quarry]

TLC like the reality TV show network? lol

[devout hound]

yeah that would be so good

[gentle forum]

yes

[pliant quarry]

Honestly yeah that'd probably be a net positive for society to automate that kind of content

[gentle forum]

it used to be the learning channel

[lethal rune]

tender loving care?

[woeful light]

well thats sort of happening, seems every space/science/etc video I watch on yt now was ai generated

[pliant quarry]

I have had to click "don't recommend channel" a lot these days with all those like, "movie recap" channels

I click them thinking it's a movie review and then it's just an AI voice reading the wikipedia synopsis for a random movie lol

[lethal rune]

yeah chat GPT is basically called an LLM, it's not an AI for example (large language model)

and i am sure generative fill in photoshop is just an algorithm really

even chess programs

[pliant quarry]

Yeah "AIs" are all still just neural network algorithms for the most part, I think probably the simplest way to describe them is content generation models or something idk I don't care enough to google it.

Though I mean... "artificial intelligence" is an extremely arbitrary concept to begin with. Where do you draw the line at it being "intelligent"? lol

[lethal rune]

they should be called

IAI

imitating artifical intelligence

lol

[lethal rune]

similar to computer processors

would you say?

like i saw some diagrams for computer processor, it was like trillions of connections more complex than a city

kind of like a neural network

[devout hound]

a rock i smart

[pliant quarry]

Probably one of my favorite video ever made for describing the complexity of how computers work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNuPy-r1GuQ

It's the only one I've seen that can explain the mechanics of a computer that actually like, makes sense to our monkey brains. It was always hard for me to intuit the whole "1s and 0s" thing before I saw this like... a decade ago or whatever

[lethal rune]

yeah i wish i could find the video where i saw behind the scenes of a comptuer processor architecture map or something

looked like a city on a giant paper on a wall and that was just a small section of the processor

it was insane to me that a human could keep track of all of that and design it

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I mean processor switches are becoming small enough that the size of atoms is actually starting to become a limiting factor in some ways lol

[lethal rune]

once we move away from copper wiring

no more heat sinks, no more heat issues

and probably 100 times faster computer speeds

they just need to invent the next step

copper is really the limiting factor right now

[dry otter]

Wireless cables, wireless cables are the way.

[woeful light]

cpus with quantum entangled atoms/registers: any change made to one instantly changes the other regardless of distance

[craggy salmon]

hello hello

[pliant quarry]

Unless something new has been discovered about quantum entanglement, that's not really how it works. But quantum mechanics are so convoluted that it's really hard to understand what it actually means in layman's terms, which is probably where that misconception/sci-fi idea comes from.

The particles that are "entangled" cannot communicate with each other in any way, they aren't sending any kind of information to each other. The "entanglement" refers to the fact that if you measure one, you can know with high levels of certainty what the state of the other will be at the same time (much better than measuring them both independently).

But measuring one isn't doing anything to the other, it's just giving you an idea of what the other is.

[lethal rune]

yeah but no one can turn that into a gaming pc in even 50 years,

[pliant quarry]

Also hi, you caught me going on a nerd tangent

[lethal rune]

plus you have to work out network/and pc security

someone from across the world can access my atom pc lol

[lethal rune]

they were experimenting with graphene last i heard

to replace copper

[pliant quarry]

Yep they've experimented with quite a few things, still on copper and silicon though

[lethal rune]

University of Alberta engineers have designed nano-optical cables that are ten times smaller than current fiber optic cables. These new nano-optical cables are small enough to replace copper wiring that is currently used on computer chips.

also this, i was thinking something like optical could work

[pliant quarry]

Well if you come up with any ideas that work go patent it and become the next billionaire

[lethal rune]

Ruthenium is just one of many alternatives under consideration right now. Last year, Intel announced that they would use cobalt interconnects in the finest-featured layers of some chips. Chemists are also working on complex compounds, including graphene and titanium compounds like Ti4GeN3, that are further from production but have attractive resistivity or resilience.

well a replacement has to be able to be built small on the nano scale, fast, and with virtually no heat, otherwise there's no point to replacing copper

would love a no heat computer

tired of heat sinks and fans

and dust collector pcs basically if you use a fan

[woeful light]

but this means that a change in the state of one equals the same change in other, the idea is that you have two cpus sharing duplicated memory across any distance

[lethal rune]

the guy who made the led blue light

became a middle class

and was ripped off if that helps 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF8d72mA41M

imagine dedicating your life to solve a world problem, and solving it, and you get like a regular salary and no recognition while some company makes billions.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-brain-dead-drool-bored-gif-7233020

[devout hound]

What y’all thoughts on adding a charge attack for weapons?

[lethal rune]

i never use charge attacks

[devout hound]

Like in other games?

[lethal rune]

like in any game, i barely remember to use a secondary attack sometimes

[devout hound]

Well damn you should try it some time haha

[lethal rune]

it's usually never worth it

you either lose DPS, or you're doing same damage as normal attack

[devout hound]

Have you played sekiro?

[woeful light]

with an increased chance of it being dodged

[devout hound]

Or bloodborne?

[devout hound]

What game does that?

[lethal rune]

and if you're doing more damage than the normal attack, you then have to balance it since you now have attacks stronger.. than any other attack - which is the only way it would be worth it, otherwise i can use the other attack that matches the damage

[devout hound]

Well yeah the charge time balances it once use with good timing

[devout hound]

Having perks to spec into would help too

[lethal rune]

they have passive charge attacks in games like league of legend, where a bar fills up over time, and then you release an attack instanteanously

but these make more sense when they are ranged, and vs other players

[devout hound]

Naw I’m taking about holding the normal attack for a better one

Like sekiro or elden ring

[lethal rune]

yeah, they have these in core keeper too

i dont use them lol

too lazy to hold

prefer my movement

[devout hound]

Haha that’s funny but wouldn’t you think it would fit in enshrouded?

Could make them have cool effects or something as well

Also fist weapons would make me happy

[lethal rune]

i dunno, makes the game more arcade like imo, and since i wouldn't use the attacks i have no real opinion on something i wont use lol

the charge attack would need to 1 shot everything for me to even want to use it basically

[devout hound]

Yeah I guess I’m talking to the wrong person haha but for real try it, play sekiro and you will understand it’s importance

[lethal rune]

like an acid bite.

which you could argue is a charge attack

spell casting time = the charge

[woeful light]

its hard enough charging a spell without being interupted, people are already using jump attack for this reason, a charged attack on a melee character wouldnt work in this game

[devout hound]

Give it range or something it would definitely work it’s not rocket science

[lethal rune]

for a melee character the charge would need the damage output of an acid bite

[devout hound]

Agreed

[lethal rune]

with similar speed to charge vs cast

[woeful light]

no give it armor/iframes

[devout hound]

Yeah that would be great

[woeful light]

yeah something like hota from D3 would be viable

[devout hound]

You make one for the sword where you dash forward and slash three times with some frames and stuff

[lethal rune]

is there no dash attack in the game yet?

if not then a dash attack itself would be nice

i thought there was a dash skill though

[woeful light]

yeah dodge roll/blink + attack

[devout hound]

Not really the dodge attack gives distance but not much

[lethal rune]

oh there's a dodge attack

yeah, i see

[devout hound]

The charges attack would give a lot more distance in my mind

[gentle forum]

I wish discord would add the ability to slowmode specific users or a role.

Some of you definitely need some time to think before you talk again.

[devout hound]

Be excellent to each other.

[gentle forum]

That's about as excellent as it gets

Real friends tell the truth to eachother.

[woeful light]

I consolidated my ideas into a google doc, so everyone can ignore it at their leisure

[lethal rune]

do you mean me? because i type like texting instead of writing full paragraphs sometimes?

it's mainly a bad habit, not intentional, i wish you could slowmode me too tbh

[gentle forum]

no lol

was blanket statement

[lethal rune]

oh okay but i still wish i could get like a 3-5 second slowmode

would help me type longer things lol

that would honestly be a good feature, discord needs more moderation options imo - and it would be especially cool if the users could slowmode themselves.

[gentle forum]

you can slowmode yourself

[woeful light]

😊 🫣

[lethal rune]

i wish, but i developed bad habits, with poor self control lol

unless discord lets me slow mode myself

[woeful light]

honestly, every discord/forum should have a containment board, a sort of mental vomitorium

[lethal rune]

sometimes i will make a reply like this - and then edit more onto it, instead of writing more lines - seems to help me manage my pressing enter problem a bit. and sometimes i'll go back to where i wrote like 10 lines in a row and try condense in into 1 paragraph.

but i dunno sometimes writing just looks bad because no one else is typing in that thread, so you have one guy basically monologuing, even though their text is spread out over 2 hours. if more people were actively typing it would appear normal.

[chrome ravine]

If the update doesn't arrive tomorrow, my theory will be correct and it will arrive at the end of the month

[quasi saffron]

Why the big gap

Also, hey. It's my birthday at the end of the month. I'm not against it.

[dry otter]

What update?

[woeful light]

exactly

[prisma surge]

Hey when is the next updat ... (gets smacked)

[woeful light]

:felbow_drop: 🤼‍♂️ 💥

[chrome ravine]

look in #socials-feed

[dry otter]

Oh

So it's some kind of new region? Don't go in depth though, I got the game yesterday and I'm barely level 3.

[quasi saffron]

Update whe- banned

[dry otter]

It's scary as hell sometimes.

[worthy garden]

the lava cavern in last hollowed halls was scary and maybe ghost glider was a bit to fast for it

[carmine scroll]

i've seen bots where if someone says a specific word they'll drop a message.
we should consider something like that for anytime someone asks "when update"

[quasi saffron]

Make the same with coins

[floral helm]

[18:37:19] His Excellency Vanolia Rabenauge was banned from the server by @floral helm for: coin.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[quasi saffron]

Time stamp does not match!

[gentle forum]

sure it does

he ban evading, mods get him

[quasi saffron]

I wanna see my regional time. It's 1:38 AM. If not ban is invalid.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/make-it-rain-respecte-la-moustache-coins-gif-15770071

[quasi saffron]

Don't forget I'm german. If you don't do it properly I'll nag on it.

[prisma frost]

What, your excellency banned?

[quasi saffron]

I did came back once

[gentle forum]

to shreds you say?

[quasi saffron]

I'll do it again

[prisma frost]

What did u do, my lord

[quasi saffron]

Wait. There was a fun bit posted by Toast

[gentle forum]

🪙

[quasi saffron]

#the-tavern message
I did that.

I made a Mod feeling like fulfilling his duty and feeling good once again by doing it.
In short.
I was banned for funsies

[quasi saffron]

Please.
Make that the official one

Need a sticker

But with the Enshrouded E

[quasi saffron]

Which Discord do I need to join to get that.

[gentle forum]

secret discord

[quasi saffron]

I see you're trying your hand at Primoris' reverse psychology today. You want to show me coins so often that I have enough of them. But that won't work. Not as long as I have empty money bags!

[gentle forum]

what if i offer you daggers

[quasi saffron]

Legendary ones?

[gentle forum]

ye

[quasi saffron]

Like my Discord color?
I'd use them to rip into moneybags of others and bathe in their wealth.

I seem to have scared him away

[gentle forum]

i told you im stabbing things with dagger

[quasi saffron]

You know... You also could decorate your daggers with fancy gems and gold

To make people feel honored getting stabbed by them.

[gentle forum]

id rather stab them in the back

[quasi saffron]

At least not the most coward death.
Poison would be worse. Like the Elixir

[prisma frost]

Why my e small

[quasi saffron]

Because emoji

[gentle forum]

what if my dagger got poison

[quasi saffron]

Try sticker

[prisma frost]

[quasi saffron]

Then it's only half coward

How're you doing tales

You do not often respond.

One day I'll get him to talk with me.
Anyway. Good night. I'll get some sleep.

[rain laurel]

👀

[gentle forum]

[arctic anvil]

are there further plans to optimize the game? or is the game just naturally demanding? i have an 8gb card and i can run the game at 80fps on balanced settings but idk if thats normal

the game looks very nice but i figured id be able to play it well on at least high graphic settings

[cobalt gazelle]

hopefully there is more to come with chests and inventory management...

sorting all of this is very overwhelming and I barely started

[lethal rune]

there are plans to optimize it so it can run on steam deck someday, just it's going to be awhile

[arctic anvil]

i think the only actual thing that causes big frame drops is the massive render distance

maybe they can add some sort of like... render fog thing

[lethal rune]

there are magic chests where you put things in chests forget about them, and can craft from tables which draw from the chest - no need to sort when you have that really.

[gentle forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/647634662256148490/986313942638923846/caprisun.gif

[cobalt gazelle]

when you say magic chests wdym?

[lethal rune]

it glows blue, it's magical

[cobalt gazelle]

are you referring to the ones that are slightly larger?

[lethal rune]

only if they glow blue/are cyan coloured

[cobalt gazelle]

I find the entire UI with chests and inventory management overwhelming

[crude hill]

https://enshrouded.wiki.gg/wiki/Storage

[lethal rune]

on magic chests ||These Magic Chests are made by the Carpenter and items stored inside can be used for crafting purposes anywhere in the base! ||

[cobalt gazelle]

ah interesting, ty

[lethal rune]

yeah it definitely makes life easier when you get them, they do unlock semi early

not immediately though

[gentle forum]

Magic chests are unlocked from the start

[worthy garden]

It get's easier when you gain access to huge chests plus quick sorting/ depositing

[lethal rune]

oh my bad 😄

[gentle forum]

Was changed in the first patch post launch

[worthy garden]

Just make a storage place and start shift r'ing

[arctic anvil]

how large do you think the blackmire area will be, and do you think itll have some verticality to it, like the caves in the wastes? or be mostly a flat swampy marshy place

[lethal rune]

i sort of wish they did more with the castle at the first boss the dragon

they 90% filled it with rubble and mushroom

[woeful light]

yeah that was uninspired

[lethal rune]

and i was able to dig my way all the way to the top of the central main tower

so it's possible to get up there

but yeah there was room to put in some levels instead, and have a gold chest at the top

and some mobs

[woeful light]

should have made that a spire and you had to beat the wyvern to get in

[lethal rune]

so yeah i guess my point is that im hoping blackmire has a castle, and that would add verticality, and hopefully it would have rooms and levels and not just be scenary

a black castle would be cool

fantasy games often go the route of castles, but they are usually regular stone

would be cool to see the kinda castles described in fantasy novels

ice castles, or black castles, etc. especially if it's the only castle of that type in the game

[arctic anvil]

having a castle you can reclaim would be awesome

[worthy garden]

The flameborns long lost castle

[woeful light]

I like the idea of phased ruins/towns that you reclaim through questing, and maybe npcs return

[proper crater]

This might be a dumb question, but have they raised the level cap?