the-tavern

[carmine scroll]

oooh. roadmap looks good.

[gentle forum]

Roadmap hype

[gray lantern]

there's a good kind?

[crystal patrol]

Or you 🙂 everybody does not have englich as a main language 😉 but my bad for the confusion

[pastel oyster]

Well... I am in the west... and the sun is currently rising.

[hasty kelp]

we just gonna add portals to other servers and an entire weather system, no biggy like

[real marlin]

Oh I have a list...

[ebon dagger]

how in the heck would they implement water physics

[charred citrus]

I read Nameable Bases as 'Nameable Babes'. Hey, why isn't this game also a dating sim?

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I meant maybe I should have been more clear haha, I can understand why what I said could be confusing

[coral void]

yes. kids.

[indigo wing]

will server gameplay settings include enemy difficulty?

[carmine scroll]

oh ya. we DO NEED ingame chat. pleeeeaaaase.

[pulsar field]

proxy chat pls

[pastel oyster]

Never satisfied, are they? 🤣

[minor cloak]

Yeah that was the only thing missing for me, other than that all boxes are checked and I’m hyped af

[valid crescent]

Replace "a" with "this"

[gray lantern]

a good disease. fine x)

[dusk knoll]

only thing missing is personal pets and fishing, this game with an amazing fishing system would be incredible

[sonic turret]

In game chat don't bother me because....I don't have friends to play with 🤣

[carmine scroll]

indeed.

[dull citrus]

Roadmap is 🔥 so exciting

[wet berry]

In-game chat would be amazing, so I can talk to all my... Uhh... You know the- Uhh...

[keen elbow]

What's friends?

[reef niche]

the voices

[lucid yacht]

I wish they could've named which updates will contain what features or will they all be at random.

[real marlin]

You people are aware there is a LFG thing right?

[serene jolt]

Roadmap!

[pastel oyster]

Stranger danger!

[carmine scroll]

i just want to be able to tell people thanks for joining but im heading off now.

[onyx bison]

"we need in game chat" yet they play solo

[sonic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-know-idk-dunno-no-idea-no-clue-gif-22858277

[west heath]

Hey, I don't understand the road map. Are we getting all of the features listed at the end of this month, besides whatever is listed for "later this year"? Or is it a series of patches spread throughout 2024?

[dull citrus]

Speaking of voices…. If Keen needs voice actors…. 👀 👋🏻

[vivid shale]

Weather and water!!! Man so excited

[green thorn]

whats better then coming home after work to that roadmap - major hype

[keen elbow]

Weird yah

[analog sail]

Throughout The Year

[languid fjord]

Ingame voice chat would be nice

[wet berry]

As if the voices would ever listen to me, pff :p

[minor cloak]

Guilty, or I play with my husband while he’s sitting right next to me. But definitely would be useful bc I’ve convinced a couple of people to get the game

[pastel oyster]

rofl it's for the next few updates (says so on the image) 😉

[gray lantern]

proximity chat

[pliant quarry]

Top section is over the next several major updates (so not all next update), bottom section is much later, towards the end of the year

[wet kelp]

Love the road map
However is better following for the beast master pets/build gonna be in any of that
Honestly i wish and hope they would just give beast masters something to tame beast permanently.

[serene jolt]

I love Keen Games I love Toast

[pulsar field]

i just want proxy chat so i can listen to my friends get jumped in the distance while i stand on a cliff doing nothing but laughing my ass off

[sage forge]

@pliant quarry im sorry to bother you: gib more blocks!!!

[mossy meteor]

If i understood right townfolk npcs means placeable npcs correct? would it be possible to for example assign them to a music instrument or that they sit on a chair or so? kinda thinking of a tavern where one npc plays an instrument and a few sitting at desks 😄

[reef niche]

when is the romance update, I wanna date the blacksmith

[dull citrus]

💯 esp for base sharing lol trying to tour folks base without chat is challenging!!

[charred aspen]

Highly ambitious “list of features” to be added. Really hope this can be pulled off as I love this game!!

[analog sail]

Maybe If Not The Instruments, Definitely Would Like Them Having To Sit Or Move Around A Bit 😅

[sage forge]

sorry was blind, thank you.

[keen elbow]

Rotate blocks when? Diagonal walls when? 😅😂

[west heath]

got it 🫡

[dull citrus]

Lemme get some lava/molten/fire for my forge and fireplace building 🔥🔥🔥

[pastel oyster]

How is everyone completely missing the dungeons? 🤣

[pseudo palm]

Should I pin this?

[serene jolt]

I hope they improve farming, making planting faster and faster gathering

[pliant quarry]

Why are you nerd emojiing me, I'm right

[arctic anvil]

Game is 100% not full releasing this year

[lucid yacht]

What about finding gold weapon at a low level and them being completely useless after you level past their level.

[onyx bison]

Ha honestly I think the biggest thing right now is fps and performance still so many facing issues

[wet berry]

I hope they continue enjoying working on this game and realizing there's a lot of dedicated fans who are loving what they're making

[sage forge]

need 30° and 60° roofs!

[tribal quest]

pvp when

[keen elbow]

That too

[primal moon]

hey folks the enshrouded road map, is it from top to bottom starting on the left col, or side to side, starting at the top row? or there is no particular order ?

[coral void]

thas just games tho. it sucks but its probably better that way

[mossy meteor]

That would be awesome 🙂 or some custom emotes like "conversation" or so. that you basically can place 2 npcs next to each other and let them have some conversation 😄 even if it would be muted. just the emotes would be cool 😄

[abstract zealot]

This. I don't see it in the road map. I am very disappointed. I find farming on a large scale a horrible time consuming task. I hope I am just missing it, but it does not look like it is in the roadmap.

[minor cloak]

I need to be able to capture and ride the Wispwyvern. Game is entirely unplayable until then.

[stone horizon]

New player. Just hit level cap. Is this just the early access level cap? Is a higher one planned for release?

[severe lintel]

Are there any plans on improving balancing, combat and skills?

[dusk knoll]

mounts, pets and fishing plz

[keen elbow]

Imagine these portals send us to random locked servers . So we can destroy everything and kill all players in their sleep

[pastel oyster]

Frankly, the devs have already pulled off a lot of ambitious things with the game, and done it quite well and quickly. While I do not expect it to be released by the end of the year, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did keep to their desired schedule anyway.

[signal ocean]

would you rather I go into the Steam backend right now and remove the Early Access banner and slap a 1.0 tag on it and say "the game is done", or have a roadmap chock-full of stuff and push back what was always presented as "about a year of early access, depending on how things go"?

[coral void]

*Team PvP. i want to smack my hammer down on 5 pleps at once jsut to get recked harder then alistor in fan fiction

[serene jolt]

Do you think we have to start a new game or it works fine to continue playing? With the new dungeon and that etc🤔

[carmine scroll]

im already loving the game so more content is just a bonus for me.

[quasi token]

Very good game supported by a great dev team, I like it :D

[tribal quest]

at least make it an option. for those who don't wanna pvp they can opt out

[dusk knoll]

litteraly this

[lucid yacht]

A higher weapon levelling system would be nice. Found a badass gold bow last night on to surpass it's level and fin a green one with higher damage. Sadge....

[arctic anvil]

Only mountains are confirmed to be coming, but that only accounts for like 1/3rd maybe, of the remaining as of now, unplayable area. That leads me to believe it's not dropping this year, doesn't seem too unreasonable of an assumption to me

[signal ocean]

we aim at adding content for all levels, not just high end, so if you want to experience all dungeons at their intended level, a new character might be more appropriate 👍

[quasi saffron]

Scrap everything from now on, put 1.0 in, charge everything in the roadmap as DLC.

[dull citrus]

This road map makes me want to day drink in the best ways possible. Like it deserves a champagne toast…

[real marlin]

Such a weird notion man. I argue with people about that all the time. What is the difference between an game in ea for 10 years and a game that is released half baked and updated for 10 years? Like, sales impact one way or the other? Nothing that the end user notices

[pliant quarry]

Blocks of differing angles are definitely on our list for future blocks we want to add :) For example 45 degree wall angles, or something like that. Would achieve the same effect.

Rotating off the grid would probably not be realistic, it's probably easier to visualize if you think of a game like minecraft. That game has much bigger voxels than ours, but works in a similar way. Placing minecraft blocks at 45 degree angles or something wouldn't make much sense :)

[coral void]

the game as is is not for strangers you cant trust at all.
nothing is protected from anything ever. it would have to be trust based anyway

[pastel oyster]

there is "more biomes" listed under "later this year"

[graceful fjord]

I really like this roadmap

[dull citrus]

Daddy going skiing in those mountains we been staring at

[unique valve]

I am here for the legendary Spiked Bow 🙂

[safe swan]

Roadmap is amazing!

[mossy meteor]

ohh true thats an important topic. can we continue on our saves or would we need to have to restart for new content/dungeons and so on?

[keen elbow]

It's enough for me

[arctic anvil]

I guess we'll just have to see how long it takes for the mountains to drop

[tribal quest]

just to throw in some ideas. it could be a game mode isolated from your game world so your precious buildings won't get demolished

[quiet geyser]

Saw the roadmap and I'm excited for it! 🫶

[graceful fjord]

Oh, good question...

[pastel oyster]

"within the next few major updates"

[real marlin]

Well one of the flaws sort of works to the games advantage when it comes to that. Restarting is super super easy and fast.

[vivid rapids]

[lucid yacht]

@pliant quarry what about a higher leveling system for weapons. I found a legendary bow that fits my okay style but can't use it after I found it last night.

[blissful basin]

"Townsfolk pets" so just npc animals ? Not pets for us ?

[dull citrus]

My guess is snowy mountains sooner than later since they are already at the edge if our current map

[pliant quarry]

Yeah saves should be totally fine, we have no current plans to require players to restart their saves. If for whatever reason we think a major update might require this, we'd warn well in advance.

Because of how our world regeneration works, so long as new content is outside of the flame altar zone, the world should automatically update without needing to create a new save :)

[fallow ether]

It utterly blew my mind when I saw how pretty the world was and then learned it was all little tiny minecraft cubes.

[arctic anvil]

Right, so even if there's only three biomes they need to add to fully finish the map, it's kind of dubious whether or not it'll all release this year

[quiet geyser]

I think i should stop what im build rn lol

[real marlin]

There will 100% be people who get locked out of content for build where you guys didn't expect though lol

[reef niche]

just move it tbh

[pastel oyster]

it's pointless to surmise either way.

[ancient prism]

I'm also at risk, my current base is just south of the northern border

[quiet geyser]

Mine is floating lol i guess thats fine? LOL

[arctic anvil]

I guess. Im just trying to defuse my own hype and set realistic expectations

[mossy meteor]

Okay thats good to know! Thank you for the answer!

[pliant quarry]

I would honestly be surprised if that happened, at least for what we're adding next update.

[keen flicker]

I like living on the edge, I'm going to go build half of a house right on the border and finish it when the biome is added

[safe swan]

I'm curious as to how water returns. Shroud drained it away or?

[pastel oyster]

Understandable. lol I would say, no timetable is ever set in stone, and not even Keen has set one in stone completely.

[ancient prism]

probably 😄

[blissful basin]

@pliant quarry does townsfolk pets mean like npc animals ? Not pets for us ?

[frigid lotus]

desperately hoping the Vanity section includes armor stands/weapons racks because the armors are so dang pretty, I just want to build a dedicated armory room 🙏

[quiet geyser]

I wish.

[wet berry]

"When is Minecraft finally gonna be released? They're still busy adding more content, smh"

[real marlin]

Roadmap disappointment number 1. The nothing void at the edge of the map wasn't addressed at all. wth

[hollow geyser]

is it possible to plant plants.. for plant fibres for string instead of running around for it?

[minor cloak]

Yes please

[ancient prism]

yes it is

[tribal otter]

WATER

[pastel oyster]

what? They have the snow biome and "new biomes" on the roadmap.

[hardy narwhal]

@pliant quarry that’s random af but are you the toast from the cycle ?

[blissful basin]

Voids at the edge of the map are un added biomes

[quiet geyser]

They are past version 1 Lol

[dull citrus]

This game is amazing already, the roadmap stuff is really gonna make this game truly extraordinary. I can’t even believe how many hours i have clocked in such a short time on this game because its soooo good.

[twilit hull]

Pretty sure it means npcs for your base

[dapper sorrel]

Wait “this month”? Everything in the top section will be in by March 31?

[mossy meteor]

i guess nothing should happen 😄

[ember flume]

I feel like this is a LOT of content for one year, hopefully the team doesn't get burned out. Or maybe it isn't and I'm just too used to Sims 4 sparse updates 😭

[dusky kestrel]

Based on your current building system, non-rectangular effects are like texture effects--they are all in the shader. Are improvements in texturing to allow better control over embellishments like ceiling and door arches, sills and frames, sloping, etc. what is meant by "better post processing" in the roadmap? Otherwise, I'm surprised not to see better shader control in the roadmap.

[hollow geyser]

okk so do i need to summon a farmer first?

[chrome ravine]

Water,Water,Water!

[real marlin]

Wrong direction! The space that isn't "map". South and East presently.

[ancient prism]

yeah 😅

[signal ocean]

found the Fremen

[rugged dragon]

are we being led to paradise

[blissful basin]

Really ? I read "townsfolk" as like people in the exiting "towns" i didn't realize that meant our base

[pastel oyster]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you talking about the ocean?

[hollow geyser]

thanks

[unique valve]

Will the next bug fix be when new features are added or sooner?

[stoic grove]

I really hope they have hanging vines with the potted plants

[hardy narwhal]

Oi you

[pulsar sail]

So does "Multiple NPC instances" mean separate progression? Seems kind of vague

[signal ocean]

no it means you will stop stealing your buddy Mike's blacksmith and huntress

[real marlin]

The what? Is it ocean? I've never seen any texture on it? lol, did my potato PC fail me here?

[twilit hull]

If they’re in existing towns they’d be getting killed by the enemies right? Wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense but could be wrong.

[graceful fjord]

I reckon a bug fix may occur before a larger update.

[reef niche]

where's the fun in that :(

[calm jetty]

Roadmap sounds amazing\

[pastel oyster]

The red-shroud to the south? yeah that was an ocean. xD

[blissful basin]

Thats true...I guess I just assumed

[pulsar sail]

Great so nothing about individual progression... sigh

[frigid lotus]

It'd be cool if you could like... "bless" a cleared town or area somehow, so that it remains safe and enemies don't respawn... so you can "populate" some cleared areas and leave others as enemy spawners

[wet berry]

My point is mostly people complaining about the updates when the game is already enjoyable now :p You don't need to be a jerk about wanting a "more complete" version if the game you're playing now is fun already. And if you played through it, you can go enjoy a different game until you get a ping here telling you to enjoy the new content :p

[graceful fjord]

red ocean is dangerous to crash into with a starter glider...

[twilit hull]

They’re adding in farmable animals too so it’d make sense that there will be some time of idle animation for human npcs as well. Then again I could be stretching it farther 🤷🏻‍♂️

[quiet geyser]

Im not being a jerk im just saying they are past ver1

[real marlin]

The void around the map, never seen it be red. Just a big empty skybox

[fringe gyro]

Based on the little thumbnail I think that post processing line item includes adding things like the ability to edit bloom (turn it off) and other settings....so we are not blinded by daylight coming from a dark space 😉

[pastel oyster]

yeah... it sounds like your computer has failed you.

[reef niche]

how dare you enjoy things 😡

[wanton wedge]

!size

[unborn sigil]

Enshrouded's demo map was about 1 km², Early Access is about 24 km², and full release will be around 64 km²

Created by abadfeeling#0 (180800697455869954)

[wet berry]

General statement, didn't mean you, my bad!

[wanton wedge]

Remember the map is still planning to be expanded, greatly.

[blissful basin]

I hope it's base npcs ❤️ I love seeing all my friends x) and I LOVE pets

[quiet geyser]

Its fine. ❤️ Youre right anyway

[twilit hull]

Right?! 🤞that we get all of it!

[dull citrus]

I just gotta say thanks and give kudos to Toast, Cool and Keen et al for being so active and engaging with the community. This is the most hands on/involved and direct/client facing i have seen from a game studio and i am very impressed, especially given how receptive to feedback and criticism they seem to be. I am so geeked for the new features and to explore more of this amazing world they’re crafting.

[real marlin]

AI, pathing, skill tree, combat, mycelium network with complicated system of interconnecting pipes?

[pliant quarry]

[valid crescent]

There's only one point I don't quite like on that roadmap, it's "instanced dungeons". Isn't one of the strengths that everything is part of the same world? New World did the same mistake and moved from one world to splitting it up. This does have a tax on immersion.

[mossy meteor]

Hmm bigger map...means probably more flame altar stages then...means higher flame altars cap probably....means an even bigger city

[blissful basin]

Im already very happy with this game ! The building is so unique and fun

[graceful fjord]

I reckon it could be fused together with, portal to other servers.

[analog sail]

Suggest That If It Isn't Already Suggested, When They Open Suggestions :O

[valid crescent]

Yeah maybe, but I'd prefer over world bosses.

[graceful fjord]

I guess I could? I'm no game dev, but it seemed logical to me.

[real marlin]

It would probably be a thing related to the back end in some fashion I imagine. Like having instanced content would allow you to do certain things or some such.

[signal ocean]

I'll let that compliment slide but let's not make this a habit

[blissful basin]

With the world going to be so big...I wonder if we might get horses 😮

[quiet geyser]

🥂

[dull citrus]

I promise ill only hold you above the fire by your toes from now on.

[pastel oyster]

Anyway - I am gonna try and get some sleep - You guys behave while I am gone! 😄

[reef niche]

quick, flame them instead

[brisk mortar]

Wish they would add periodic base attacks you have to defend against

[signal ocean]

dam u got strong hands

[valid crescent]

I know, hard to discuss in slow mode. I'm confident the devs will find a fun way anyways. 🙂

[dusky kestrel]

It is really difficult to tell much from these thumbnails. Lighting improvements would be good; a common problem in building games. A more specific title would make more sense. My comment, however, was about improvement to rendering to give us control over texture effects that emulate structure. It makes for some really janky detail that can't easily be fixed.

[vital topaz]

There is 'enemy patrols' dont know what precisely that means but that might be included

[dull citrus]

That’s just my fingers 🤓 💪🏻 Its all the clicking i do building in your game 😂

[blissful basin]

Don't forget smashing space bar

[pastel oyster]

the image can be opened up - it's actually pretty big 🙂

[stuck canyon]

I played Enshrouded for 78 hours and completed everything. I'm very excited about the new features. I'm waiting with curiosity.

[hardy narwhal]

So that’s a yes ? 🤔

[real marlin]

Still a lot of dead space and formatting issues. Doesn't bode well ma'am

[glass palm]

damn this roadmap is fire

[dull citrus]

Omgggg has anyone asked for jump and glide to not be the same button?? Lemme tell you… when im tryin to par cor my scaffolding…. And end up flying…. So far away…

[pliant quarry]

You don't remember the leafmen?

[pastel oyster]

good lord, are you ever happy... with anything?

[hardy narwhal]

I do. I spent a ton of money on this game but I wouldn’t assume that’s a „yes“ hahaha

[valid crescent]

It says remapping on the roadmap, so I guess.

[errant violet]

Basicly the wishlist is valheim but better, i can get behind that.

[elder parrot]

Noooo! More spells isnt on the roadmap 🧙‍♂️ guess we stick to tiny bolts in 2024

[dusky kestrel]

Thx for the suggestion. Blowing up a low res thumbnail doesn't help understand what it is about. Again, not the point of the comment.

[pliant quarry]

It's a yes 😉

[hardy narwhal]

Yo look into you’re DMs

[fleet hornet]

Stick with tiny bolts waiting for you there lol

[hardy narwhal]

Does the cycle discord still exist ? If so, can you unban me ? (Jkjk)

[pastel oyster]

Post processing is stuff like bloom, depth of field and other effects that are rendered.

[real marlin]

lol, Some people grow up thinking criticism is more constructive than praise. Also, Keen is staffed mainly by adults I imagine so understanding that criticism can and should be constructive wouldn't be beyond them. Also, the bit about the formatting was mostly a joke to poke a little fun at some of the people in here complaining for the sake of it. Because I don't have anything better to do.

[dusky kestrel]

Yes, asked and answered. The question is about shader and texture detail, though.

[pliant quarry]

I don't work there anymore and haven't in a while, so no :P

[wet berry]

Doesn't bode well, Sir

[blissful basin]

@pliant quarry does townsfolk mean in our base or in the world?

[peak lily]

I am so excited! I can hardly stand it. So much on the roadmap that I don't know what is it but there are some things!!!!! I just can't wait.
I love this dev team. They have always been so supportive and informative and they do everything with the best sense of humor and kindness! Thank you so much Keen Games!!

[real marlin]

But on a more serious note, I'd like to see a reworked system for getting/placing the various NPCs in the world. The "people stick" is a little off putting.

[fringe gyro]

You saw the roadmap included being able to rekeybind the glider right?

[pastel oyster]

would you rather have them in your inventory? 😉

[analog sail]

You Were Right ... You Had A List .... XD

[tribal otter]

Quick question: is the issue where magic chests are inaccessible from a certain distance going to be looked at? Do the devs know about it? Currently, magic chests can't have their contents used if you're too far away from them (but still within the limits of the base).

If this isn't the best place for this type of question, I would happily accept any feedback on where to post this.

[quiet geyser]

Cant see the message, what is coming, fishing?? 😄

[real marlin]

I'm not saying I need like a Conan style "knock out and drag back to your cave" system but maybe like an escort quest to interact with the coming patrols or something less... stick-centric?

[pastel oyster]

Escort quests are evil and should be banned for all eternity.

[graceful fjord]

escort...and fight wolves and shroud inhabitants on the whole way back to a base?

[blissful basin]

Its a little silly, magic summoning stick made from twigs, but it gets the job done

[wet berry]

You're saying I just need some sticks to make friends?

[pliant quarry]

The question I was responding to was whether the roadmap would release on platforms besides twitter, like steam and stuff

[real marlin]

lol, I'm just shooting from the hip here. I haven't put much thought in to what could replace the stick.

[blissful basin]

Summoning via the flame maybe and then walking them to where you want

[pulsar dust]

That roadmap looks awesome. Hopefully expanding the skill tree and combat comes eventually too.

[signal ocean]

"legendary bugle of blacksmith calling"

[real marlin]

Nailed it, I'm in.

[hearty pond]

legendary bagel of blacksmith calling sounds better

[mossy meteor]

i hope the enemy patrols cant destroy bases. because the bigger the base, the harder it would be to find them i guess. 😄 imagine they would somewhere in sewers or dungeons be and then the enemies get lost in a maze of tunnels 🤣

[signal ocean]

yes the glider will be remappable to a different button than jump

[signal ocean]

no that's how you call your local community guy

[quiet geyser]

Can y'all disclose what will be in the content patch or no?

[blissful basin]

staring up at floating base

[hearty pond]

1min delay, i hope that's only for today

[real marlin]

You wasted your 1 minute comment on that? oh crap

[mossy meteor]

oh that would be funny. 😂

[dull citrus]

Woooot 👍🏻

[twin mural]

server jumping is going to be awesome

[signal ocean]

the dungeons have a solid chance of being part of the first update

[pulsar dust]

sick

[buoyant remnant]

gangster stuff right there thats awesome

[dull citrus]

This is legit better than Xmas imo lol

[real marlin]

Its neat! Like Schrodinger's Content

[serene jolt]

Christmas is early it seems (or late)

[grave fractal]

yo the roadmap looks pretty good

[warm trellis]

The thing on the roadmap that made me moist was.
"Sitting on furniture"

I now expect to be able to slavic squat on every piece of furniture

[serene jolt]

Sitting on furniture is essential for immersion

[hearty pond]

you are banned from owning any furniture

[kindred mural]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-knock-knock-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-hobbit-hole-gif-2797787283761440378

Round doors oo

[warm trellis]

Yes, and that is complex and cool.

But you're missing the point.
We are soon able to sit on furniture

[grave fractal]

it's a bit weird most of the stuff in the roadmap looks like quality of life improvements rather than content milestones

[pastel oyster]

lol - hubby needed help carrying crap down the the car... so much for sleep... 🤣

[dull citrus]

If you stacked/layered walls you could sort of so this now with the larger double doors i think 🤔

[real marlin]

Check it again?

[kindred mural]

now need hobbit sized character creator (also dwarfs with fluffy beards with tiny characters)

[west summit]

.

[wanton wedge]

I made us some WATER propaganda posters.

[warm trellis]

I would like a cinematic trailer for when they att the "Sit on furniture" DLC

[fallen burrow]

am i the only one wishing for ingame chat? 😦

[brisk mortar]

BASE ATTACKS!!!

[quasi saffron]

President goes propaganda style.

[glad spire]

Is the roadmap going in a certain order or is it just features they want in the game?

[wanton wedge]

never forget the TWIGS era.

[warm trellis]

Futture

[wanton wedge]

and RAKE era.

We're in our WATER era now.

[quasi saffron]

Stop please. 😂
We need a !Price

[kindred mural]

if we had base attacks, that would require base turrets etc and not sure any of that would be good for this game or not, but not shy of it being "optional"

[hearty pond]

you could say he's raking it in

[worldly onyx]

We're they talking about the Shroud Timer for the characters or a different Shroud Timer?

[grave fractal]

I'm looking at it right now and out of the 36 things listed in there, only 11-12 are new content suggestions

[cedar cedar]

folks anyone have a "knight set" they can spare me? i can trade some level 25 items if want

[real marlin]

But I mean, those are sort of the content pillars? What else do you need?

[grave fractal]

eh idk, I expected a bit more details

[real marlin]

Well sure, bullet points on a lot of it would be nice but it is all there otherwise.

[vital topaz]

Additionally, there are the things that were already planned for the ~40 km² before player suggestions. I think they might not want to spoiler everyone and tell every Detail of content by putting it on the roadmap

[quiet geyser]

Interesting to see how they gonna implement water mechanics in a voxel game

[fathom ore]

There was no mention of individual quest progression in the announcement instead of server wide, the way it is. 💀

[wet berry]

How are you counting that? Because about double of the things you say I'd count as additional content

[ocean anvil]

@fathom ore keen already dressed the individual quest stuff nd working on that now

[quiet geyser]

I think they are gonna go the route of having players have the ability to "redo" them

[alpine beacon]

Don't have too high of expectations of water in a voxel engine 🧐

[quiet geyser]

Agreed its gonna be very interesting to see them pull this off

[fathom ore]

Why not, valheim does it?

[quiet geyser]

Valheim isn't voxel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[real marlin]

"other stuff" was mentioned I think anyway

[quiet geyser]

theyve done good on everything else im sure it will be fine

[fathom ore]

Unity isnt voxel based? okay

[quasi saffron]

Eh. Valheim has no real "water" my friends. It's just a blend at a certain height which says "Your character will swim from here on now".

[quiet geyser]

they use a different program than valheim

[subtle prawn]

Might just end up being static if nothing else works

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I'll actually reinforce this lol, true water that interacts with the world in a voxel game is a big undertaking.

Valheim doesn't actually have "real" water so to speak, it's just a set water table and anything below that height is "underwater" as far as the game is concerned.

This wouldn't work for our game though because that would just mean every single cave was flooded lol

[grave fractal]

sounds watery enough to me

[quiet geyser]

For those interested in the program its called MagicaVoxel

[quasi saffron]

Our dear Toast and Overlord explained it further.

[elder parrot]

I kneeeew the teaser small pix from toast was a dungeon thing,
I was right! What do i win?! ^^

[somber phoenix]

Shroudnaitica confirmed

[strong sinew]

@pliant quarry townsfolk NPC's means we could have more NPC's walking around our bases in the future, or it is for random towns in the map?

[wet kelp]

LOL anyone else turn into one of those notice me senpai gals when their questions go unseen?

[wet berry]

As cursed as it is, I can see water as being a Terrain block and not having gravity, it just allows you to swim inside of it

[quasi saffron]

You're allowed to live on M'lady.

[pastel oyster]

no specific order as far as I am aware, just that the top will be in the next few major updates and the bottom "within the year"

[quiet geyser]

Will the red shroud ground stuff become water when clearing shroud ?

[elder parrot]

Very kind! I take it ^^

[wet berry]

I am very curious about your definition of voxels :')

[ebon dagger]

isnt the smallest voxel unit the 1m block, how could diagonals inside ever exist?

[elder parrot]

‐ I want to argue about there being too many good and wished for things on the roadmap,
Making other games roadmaps pale in comparison. Is this fair? ^^

[ebon dagger]

nah nvm you basically answered that in your second sentence

[ancient epoch]

didn't they have water before? in Portal knights afaik

[tribal quest]

Question - when the new update drops, will we have to start over because of backward compatibility issues? @pliant quarry

[elder parrot]

Possibly not, they try not to

[quiet geyser]

diagonals could exist by making it still in cubeform but at angles within that cube

[wet kelp]

is more customization options gonna be added in? literally i am ok having a small selection but one thing i must always have is eye color. T_T i want to pick the eye color. I get so sad when i cant . I'm stuck with boring brown eyes in real life. Don't want to be stuck with them ingame to. LOL

[quiet geyser]

the voxel works by squares look at roof stuff for example

[ebon dagger]

what im saying is that it cant fit inside a one voxel unit

[grave fractal]

bruh ain't no way I'm starting over, literally took me around 60 hours to complete my base

[quiet geyser]

yeah it could

but like toast said its still complex

[elder parrot]

I will start over when the first larger content comes, as i want to experience a tuned and changed adventure, easy ^^

[ebon dagger]

you're breaking the rendering engine at that point.
If you have two blocks and you make a diagonal texture rendering like the roofs, thats fine

[wet berry]

That's been answered a bunch of times. They don't know, but they'll do their best to prevent it

[quiet geyser]

Monte the system they use is called MagicaVoxel if your interested btw

[elder parrot]

They could 'mask' parts of one cube to make it look triangle - but i dont think its a good idea for performance ^^

[quiet geyser]

ive been trying to tinker and learn it in general out of curiosity

[marsh viper]

Anything on when quests etc are player side rather than server side?

[ebon dagger]

my understanding is that that is the tool they use to create assets, not the game rendering engine

[vast shell]

fluid simulation incoming? 🙂

[ocean anvil]

@marsh viper that's being worked on now, so possible next updte lter this month

[ebon dagger]

fluid simulation would be very cpu intensive I feel like

[dusky kestrel]

I'm really surprised combat improvements are not anywhere on the roadmap. Most of what is up there is either low-hanging fruit or non-gameplay issues. Combat is very laggy, user input can get buffered to the point of causing unrecoverable actions. "Performance improvements" are just too generic term to mean anything.

[elder parrot]

We dont have a 'when', we just got a 'will happen' on many things, which are good.
They cant always be clairvoyant with coding

[pastel oyster]

more like It shouldn't because of how the game is saved, however nothing is guaranteed.

[subtle prawn]

Their engine is the holistic engine

[quiet geyser]

i think theyre gonna figure it out

What is the use of experience scrolls? They dont give a buff and dont seem to do anything

[pastel oyster]

they... give experience. xD

[elder parrot]

They gice 100 exp, but too small to be noticeable

[ebon dagger]

cool if they do, it just seems like they need a rewrite if you want to rotate the 1m block 45 deg

[brittle bay]

Hello guys, what are the differences between portals to other servers and sharing & visiting of bases?

[elder parrot]

Will be adjusted most like

[ionic parcel]

imagine being already 25 level

[brittle bay]

I mean we are already visiting and sharing bases

[quasi saffron]

I think it's about connecting worlds, but that's just a wild guess.

[pastel oyster]

I don't believe that was clarified by anyone at keen

[brittle bay]

well that is what I understand for "portal to other servers"

[elder parrot]

No i know what u multiplayers do, you visit and demolish bases! ^^

[pastel oyster]

but I missed a lot. 🤣

[quasi saffron]

Maybe in one of those Embervales we find the Ancients.

[quiet geyser]

honestly this should be a ban

[graceful fjord]

We can't trust anyone...

[real marlin]

I'm still hoping that a big combat rework is on the radar.

[sudden drum]

Why? The game allows it.

[pastel oyster]

I haven't played multiplayer, but are the altars "shared" between players? like can you use other people's altars?

[brittle bay]

yes they are

[quiet geyser]

because why allow this kind of mental problem to exist of people joining to destroy peoples things and troll

[dusky kestrel]

Me too, but it doesn't look like it from the very cosmetic and new feature bias in the roadmap.

[pastel oyster]

Then I have no clue 😄

[real marlin]

Indeed! There are no permissions for anything yet

[elder parrot]

Server controls are in the roadmap, so will be fixed with permissions

[quiet geyser]

awesome

[brittle bay]

This is why I don't understand the difference, or why specify sharing bases, they are already shared, or they will implement some kind of separation/segregation

[sudden drum]

I don't question that. But you say "ban" people for doing things that are allowed in the game.

[ocean anvil]

needs more stuff for villa

[pastel oyster]

I am sure, with everything else that's on there, that it's probably something profound 😄

[elder parrot]

Yeah that person is eerily very vocal about assault/grief/messing with other people in discussions hete

[quiet geyser]

ban as in the idea of banning the issue not the person

[elder parrot]

Better avoid them ^^

[sudden drum]

I see. Misunderstood that.

[simple dragon]

If it's anything like Conan Exiles, it allows gaming groups to have multiple servers for their community to build on and interact with.

[pearl zodiac]

Great roadmap

[quiet geyser]

but as ellis cake said theyre adding server permissions which is great

[sick socket]

Hello everyone. Love the road map features that were announced.

[quiet geyser]

now I do acknowledge that it would be nice to have enemies raid your base and you have to defend it

[neon cedar]

I was hoping for something to be done to combat tbh, but otherwise than that, looks great

[pastel oyster]

optionally, I hope

[alpine beacon]

What's wrong with the combat? Hit registering or?

[brittle bay]

Yes, and this will be tackled with the portal to other servers, I belived as well and I would love it, I had only doubt on the difference with the part of sharing bases.

[pearl zodiac]

never know what may come in the road ahead

[sick socket]

Like a raid mode? See how many waves your base can withstand?

[quiet geyser]

i feel like this would be good cause there are some people who just like making stuff and thats it

[crystal willow]

I was hoping to see „Pause the game“ on the roadmap as well 😄

[pastel oyster]

yes, and I HATE having to build walls around everything

[real marlin]

I suppose it depends. People talking about how the actual combat works are a very small group it seems. A lot more people seem to be more interesting in the um, livability of the game? I guess? But as time passes and more content is added could well change.

[brisk mortar]

YES!!!!!

[quiet geyser]

i wonder if the implementation of townsfolk can fight lol

[graceful fjord]

and destroy my hard work.....fine I'll pepper them down with arrows from my archer tower.

[sick socket]

Maybe a quick fix mode would be implemented? Idk

[quiet geyser]

just build a base on top of pillar of creation no enemies can get you lol

[brisk mortar]

Just build a floating base

[drifting granite]

Don't know if "allowed" is the correct word there. More "overlooked". As in i dont think the devs intended to have people be able to troll and intentionally destroy random peoples bases. Instead, assuming that people wouldnt behave like that

[quiet geyser]

flying mammoths arrive spitting acid at base lol

[urban grotto]

hmm, whats Enemies Patrol in the roadmap?

[graceful fjord]

I suppose....but I had enough of base repairs done in MoM.

[brisk mortar]

I think base defense system would be awesome

[simple dragon]

These are the kind of big brain ideas I come here for 🧠

[pastel oyster]

probably less "overlooked" and more "hadn't been implemented yet" - I doubt they thought griefing wouldn't happen xD

[quiet geyser]

enshrouded slowly becomes helldivers 2 lol

[graceful fjord]

.....I don't have enough altars to build a "floating base."

[urban crown]

Me. I'm that person. I just want to build pretty things. 😂

[wet berry]

People are nice, what do you mean griefing is a thing?

[sick socket]

Just a thought yknow. To keep it spicy. I make my base “practical” by design so I would love to see if it can hold it down during an attack. Just for fun!

[pastel oyster]

oh you sweet summer child. ♥

[dusky kestrel]

This is not new. It is a common theme in EA sandbox survival titles that the first thing users "want" is to make that game just like very other game they have played. That's why so few of the ideas in the roadmap are either interesting or pertinent to the Enshrouded gameplay loop or universe.

[real marlin]

It would be cool to have base raids biome dependent, or based on Shroud proximity. There could be rewards for clearing raids to give an incentive but those who don't want them could just build elsewhere. Sort of a more natural game system driven alternative to a settings checkbox.

[quiet geyser]

i had mentioned a while back it would be cool to have the land restored after clearing shroud

[sick socket]

The fact that they want to implement water is really cool. We can make moats soon lol

[drifting granite]

I would like to assume if the devs thought griefing would be this much of an issue, that they would have implemented fixes before launch rather than later. If not, then they directly enabled the problem. Therefore "Overloooked" gives the benefit of the doubt to the devs

[graceful fjord]

Or watery tunnel into dun- I mean cellar...

[pastel oyster]

well it's not like they are going to tell you what lore and quests they are going to be adding, nor do they need to add that to a roadmap, as it's implied just by progressing through the EA process.

[sick socket]

Join someone else’s server just to flood their base 🫠

[graceful fjord]

Nah, that goes against my gaming morals.

[pastel oyster]

ah, you are a firestarter, then. ;P

[graceful fjord]

no.....no...

[dusky kestrel]

Lore and quests are not what I'm talking about either, in point of fact.

[sick socket]

Right on. Meant it as a joke but I respect the respect 🤘🏼 maybe we can have “visitors” be passive on bases. No looting. No destroying.

[pastel oyster]

what are you talking about then?

[graceful fjord]

I can't help that the explosive barrels are right there....

[minor cloak]

I wanna be able to use the water to make cute little fountains and stuff. Think about the outdoor decor possibilities when constructing the castle/ fort of your dreams

[dusky kestrel]

What I said: gameplay issues like very laggy combat.

[sick socket]

Imagine the garden creations we can make.

[graceful fjord]

That could maybe be a good onme for maybe next years roadmap. Or maybe they surprise us close to the end of the year....

[pastel oyster]

So that's not addressed in "performance improvements?"

[dusky kestrel]

Not usually.

[pastel oyster]

not usually on what planet? 🤣

[sick socket]

This is still a very new game and their road map covered a lot of our points. I’m excited for ping abilities. Simple but always improved combat if you’re playing with another person.

[solar oar]

Performance improvements tend to be about the machine, not the gameplay

[subtle prawn]

Utopia xD

[pastel oyster]

"laggy combat" is literally a performance issue.

[wet berry]

Sounds more like a dystopia

[sick socket]

I thought having a high end build would matter but it really doesn’t make a difference aside from texture and ray tracing. I still experience the same bugs everyone else does it seems. It’s just the game. I’m excited for performance updates.

[real marlin]

I don't know how fair that is honestly. Do you have any examples of things that would be more pertinent to the gameplay loop or universe? Do we even know what the end result is suppose to look like yet? Also, the survival game genre is still pretty new relatively speaking so feature homogenization is sort of to be expected to one degree or another.

[dusky kestrel]

Performance improvements is a catch all for everything from game data size, stuttering, LoD, far field bluring, RAM usage esp in UI and automated process, and yes user input controllers. But looking at that roadmap, combat is not at all what Keen is thinking about when they thing performance improvements.

[pastel oyster]

and when you boil stuff like that down, it's all going to be distilled into the same features done differently or better.

[wet berry]

When I said I was going out walking, I didn't specify that I'd use my left leg, therefor I shall be hopping

[subtle prawn]

Combat is about the least important thing to adjust

[dusky kestrel]

This.

[sick socket]

What do you want to change about combat?

[pastel oyster]

it's also something that's done throughout the entire EA process from start to finish.

[real marlin]

Don't know if I agree with that. The hook that got me on Enshrouded was the "vanquish punishing bosses" bit. Sort of what I'm here for.

[pastel oyster]

balancing, adjusting - all of that goes without saying. It's like saying "I'm going to take a breath"

[hollow geyser]

anyone know how to get torncloth for bandages? -health potions might be alot better but i have no idea how to make them yet.

[sick socket]

I only ever loot rotten cloth haven’t crafted any.

[carmine scroll]

break stuff and dight mobs

[subtle prawn]

It's not a souls like tho, if you want punishing bosses look there

[minor cloak]

Laggy combat doesn’t bother me none. Game is too casual for it to matter. Unless they rebalanced it to a degree that severely impacted the gameplay/ casual aspect, I’m more interested in the other features being implemented that make it feel even more sandboxy announced in the roadmap

[carmine scroll]

i just want to remove shroud from my base area

[sick socket]

Yeah seriously, I love kicking ass with my blink attack. Really gets the enemies stunned and then I tear them apart with melee.

[pastel oyster]

♪♫ maybe someday

[real marlin]

Okay but, I get to want Enshrouded to be what I want it to be too right? Like, what I am after is a Dark Souls game with base building, survival, questing, a world to live in and be a part of. Based on the games description I should get a seat at the table too no?

[subtle prawn]

That's not what the game is

[carmine scroll]

i love fightingthe first boss but hes sooooo easy.
easy to farm too

[minor cloak]

And then you loot and make your OP weapons even more OP as to make resources easier to gather. Just ZAP WHOOSH and off to continue exploring the gargantuan map

[sick socket]

I wonder if we’ll ever get to make gold trophies…

[idle pendant]

Does the Cinder vault count as one of MY altars? I have placed 5 and it says I have 6 placed. Only if it counts the Cinder, which is not mine.

[real marlin]

But, Steam's game description? Maybe it needs an edit.

[pastel oyster]

There is a happy medium, and I am sure with enough feedback, they will reach it. Possibly add difficulty settings and more challenging boss mechanics.

[sick socket]

So if this game is going to be on steam spring sale do we get a rebate? 🤪

[pastel oyster]

but remember, this is NOT a complete "to release" roadmap. it's only the next few major updates and a few sneak peeks at future content

[flint raft]

How do you know what this game is? 😐

[left ridge]

Anyone have an open spot?

[pastel oyster]

nope

[pastel oyster]

#1195389948069675009

[sick socket]

I know, not even worried about it. It’s already affordable.

[ocean anvil]

no rebate for us chums that have paaid already

[subtle prawn]

What they showed and roadmap? It no where was advertised as a dark souls

[white orbit]

[pastel oyster]

I'd rather pay full price anyway - so they get all the money they deserve for this great game.

[sick socket]

If you wanna play Minecraft or dark souls, I got this crazy idea for you … 🤣

[minor cloak]

I definitely see this game increasing in price as it leaves early access. I already feel like I’ve paid a lot more for a lot less in finished games.

[real marlin]

I'm a-okay being a day 1 consumer here.

[dusky kestrel]

Maybe you've experienced this. When you are trying to tangle with a powerful boss or multiple creatures, and you start some attacks or movements. You're planning your next move for when the animation finishes. But the game has buffered multiple attacks--some you haven't even entered--that instead send you into the middle of the horde, or over a cliff, or into deadly water, or in front of the boss's finisher that you were dodging. This happens all the time in Enshrouded. Basic controller response isn't strictly the realm of FromSoft games, its a basic staple of any game with action in the gameplay. If KeenGames wants action, they should support it to the point of ensuring it doesn't bug out every other second. I have to avoid certain weapons and builds not because of playstyle, but because I know it's too risky for Enshrouded's bugs.

[sick socket]

Yeah, we got a hell of a steal for only $30 considering how good and playable this game already is.

[next slate]

Hey guys, if they are planning to put in a 'weather system' ~ will there be thunder/lighning?...and if so...will there be an option to potentially turn off or reduce flashing? It's just that me and my partner have been loving this game and...He has photosensitive epilepsy so if they put flashing lightning in the game...He wont be able to play 🥲 We already get 'flashbanged' by the unbalanced lighting when moving from indoors - outdoors so I was just curious ~

[ocean anvil]

@next slate we have to wait and see what keen does!

[pastel oyster]

I don't think it was ever advertised as "an action game" - adventure, yes... but I never saw any of the "fast-paced. high-octane" buzzwords surrounding the game.

[real marlin]

I'm positive there will be a setting for weather and less possitive it will include turning it off completely. But that seems likely. To answer your question I have no idea what I'm talking about.

[pastel oyster]

uh oh, Toast is typing, run! we are all busted!

[real marlin]

Check out the Steam discription. It might be a little more vague than I'm making it out to be but it certainly sold me on a specific idea anyway.

[pliant quarry]

Something like this should probably be doable in theory, weather is not coming next update, but whenever it's planned I'll make sure to mention this and see what the team can do :)

[quasi saffron]

Weeellll... How much do I have to bribe CUB and Toast with so that I have a realistic chance of being able to accumulate my treasures?

[dusky kestrel]

Except in half the trailer. And what it's called isn't really the point. It's part of the gameplay now so it is part of the upkeep.

[sick socket]

Interesting point. Do you use KB & M or controller? I use controller and play melee/archery. I hardly jump into a horde unless it’s a small mob. I dodge and run away lot more to reserve health. I also use the game “logic” as observed by mobs to know how they corner you and how to avoid it. I haven’t personally experienced too many combat bugs this way so I might be ignorant to the ones you’ve had. However, I have noticed tank play styles aren’t as rewarded as others from my experience thus far. Even with legendary, fully upgraded weapons and potions… but yeah, we’ll have to hope and see of those bugs you mentioned get ironed out. I would love to explore the skill tree to try all the fighting styles in this game.

[ocean anvil]

we could sit here and theory / specualtion / craft - once keen lets us test hopefully on a beta builds before release to main game stage

[neon path]

It's the thought that counts.

• Sir Isaac Newton

[next slate]

I just hope there is an option like 'reduce flashing' from Valheim because Enshrouded is such a nice game and I don't want to have to stop playing just because they think we need 70 lightning flashes in a row like some other games 🥲

[idle pendant]

Does the Cinder vault count as one of MY altars? I have placed 5 and it says I have 6 placed.

[pastel oyster]

yes please. I love weather, but not when I am building ♥ I need sunshine and happy days

[next slate]

Thank you so much 😮 💙

[somber phoenix]

It doesn’t no

[trim marten]

'create and share game experiences'....now this looks interesting!

[real marlin]

You might be missing one, I did that once... once

[dusky kestrel]

I have run the same build and use KB&M, and your playstyle is what I adjusted toward precisely to avoid bugs. I throw in some ranged magic for that reason, as well. Short range and melee combat is where good input handling is important. That's about half the skill tree.

[quiet geyser]

Devs does "server and gameplay settings" from the roadmap include plans for difficulty options?

[idle pendant]

Nevermind, found one hidden behind a camp symbol

[dusky kestrel]

But I'm sure you've found that timing and dodging is needed for the rogue build, as well.

[sick socket]

Yeah. I would love to use my staff more often but then I’d probably just spam acid bite all the time haha the combat, for my play style, is balanced enough to remain fun and still give me somewhat of an edge when going into a large enemy base. I know I can kick their butts but I know it’ll also cost me some time to do and that’s okay lol

[warm comet]

Really enjoy the game, glad to see all the coming updates. Wondering when we get access to more map?

[real marlin]

*soon

[long zenith]

The snow biome is on the roadmap

[pastel oyster]

and "other biomes" later in the year

[sick socket]

This month I believe.

[silk birch]

Yup, I dunno about you, but I'm excited AF

[long zenith]

Does anyone know if we are going to be able to preserve the condition of our builds through map resets?

[real marlin]

Pin

[pastel oyster]

we don't that - only that we are getting an update this month

[warm comet]

That would be awesome 🙂

[dusky kestrel]

Glad you are enjoying it. I'm at the point of deciding replay value, and a fresh build is part of that. But as I said, so many builds, weapons, and playstyles tempt those input handling bugs.

[manic terrace]

We're getting water yay!!

[wet berry]

I haven't had any issues with input

[thin drum]

Is the FPS still limited

[long zenith]

We have a bunch of new players considering joining the server so we want to reset it, but we don't want to lose all the work we put into Glenwood.

[sick socket]

I went from my wives server which we began on, to my own where we are making a new base. Gathering resources is a a breeze so it’s definitely replayable for us.

[dusky kestrel]

The building system in Enshrouded is excellent. If it weren't for the wonky shader, I would say it's the best out there. It's only half the game for me, though.

[real marlin]

I haven't really noticed any of that. Actually the only thing I have noticed is Jump Attack seems want to turn you into a pinata suspended over a group of enemies ripe for a beating.

[hearty gale]

the resource server i was using was shut down, anyone can share another resource server?

[quiet geyser]

Love the roadmap, wish there was some ballpark timelines tho

[sick socket]

Can’t wait for more blocks and the angle they mentioned. Wonder if we’ll get a lighting refresh cause for me it makes windows look like UFO beams peering into the build lol

[pastel oyster]

It's better that they dont

[real marlin]

That is dangerous. Just sets people up

[harsh pawn]

I'd rather there be no timelines as it means they can work on their own time

[long zenith]

I agree timelines are a waste of time

[pastel oyster]

a rushed programmer is a bad programmer

[quiet geyser]

It’s a pretty common practice to include some timelines in roadmaps, kind of the point of them. Not specific dates just “coming this summer”

[wet berry]

Anyways :p Totally excited for the game! All the fans are awesome, the devs are awesome, looking forward to playing and being here more in the future! Gotta go now ^-^

[long zenith]

Rushed artists are my concern

[sick socket]

Later 🫡

[real marlin]

I guess I'm mostly concerned with rushed doctors, pilots and nuclear reactor crews myself.

[sick socket]

Never rush the microwave.. the outside might be warm but the inside is still frozen 🥶

[brisk tusk]

Research and those who achieve most productive and creative output usually disagree with this.

[real marlin]

45 seconds then stir and repeat till lava

[pastel oyster]

Common practice does not mean best practice though. Keen seems to really take care of their employees and stresses a work-life balance (at least on their page) so it makes sense that they would not set goals to stress their programmers or disapoint their player base.

[sick socket]

Expectations are a dangerous thing. Love this studio for balancing the work load on the team. Yields a better product.

[astral tree]

I feel like the water note is a joke, and i appreciate it

[pastel oyster]

I know you want a timeline, we all want to know when - but frankly, as someone married to a programmer whose job does NOT do this, in fact does the opposite daily, I appreciate it.

[quiet geyser]

That would hold weight if they were setting goals for specific dates which can induce stress to hit a solid deadline, but a timeline isn’t at all unreasonable

[frosty obsidian]

I just really hope next update gives us enough for me to pick up the game again, i've done basically everything by now

[errant violet]

As long as they add the most important stuff im good.

[pastel oyster]

the timeline is "the next few major updates" and "by the end of the year" for the bottom parts.

[dusky kestrel]

I wish it were.

[quiet geyser]

Lol not a great roadmap if the road isn’t mapped

[real marlin]

Work-life balance and fostering an environment conducive to retention should be the standard. I'd love to work in the industry but it sort of scares the hell out me lol

[errant violet]

Id be happy if they hold on to everything and release everything at the same time.

[pastel oyster]

Since when does a map have time?

[quasi saffron]

Well google maps shows the arrival time!

[fiery glacier]

Do we reckon water in the future means fishing? 🎣

[pastel oyster]

hush you. 😛

[quiet geyser]

Eggsacktly

[errant violet]

Göran

[dusty forge]

It's also pretty standard to have roadmaps without timelines.

[drifting egret]

I hope so! I love fishing in games haha.

[fiery glacier]

Same. Cannae lie

🐠

[dusty forge]

Happy to see the roadmap. Excited for what's ahead!

[sick socket]

Definitely depends on the studio. I’ve worked closely with a studio recently and I did not like their office dynamics personally. Glad we finished our work when the contract was up. I’ve also seen studios who you wouldn’t even think they get anything done cause of how cohesive the chemistry is… yet they churn out some amazing titles lol

[pastel oyster]

but we aren't the ones driving, they are, so I am sure they have goals for times on their internal roadmap - but without the pressure of a bunch of cranky gamers beating down the door if it's 2 hours late.

[real marlin]

I mean hell, after Valheim missed a bunch of deadlines they took the map down and said "you know what, you'll get what you get when you get it"

[pastel oyster]

I mean, look what happened with the roadmap, they never even gave a date, and yet people read into what was said (incorrectly) and have been complaining for 2 weeks that they were late

in fact - they never even actually said whether they were going to release a roadmap until recently

[quasi saffron]

Papa Smurf, are we finally there?

[pastel oyster]

I always found it disturbing that there were like 99 smurfs and only 1 girl. kinda ticked me off as a kid.

[dusky kestrel]

It's to the point where I can predictably reproduce buffering errors, which is how I stay away from them now. It happens any time an action animation concludes, and your most recently entered command isn't what happens next.

[real marlin]

Madam, I certainly do not need a coherent reason to be a cranky gamer. I've got that covered all on my own.

[pastel oyster]

and her "profession" was "girl."

[quasi saffron]

Mushroom people reproduce via spores.

[quiet geyser]

They’ve already got a feature upvote list, what’s the point of making it into a fancy graphic design pic lol without any sort of meaningful plans it conveys the same thing

[pastel oyster]

I have yet to meet a cranky gamer that is coherent... 😛

[sick socket]

So if this is the tavern… I wonder what their drink menu looks like…

[quasi saffron]

Hi I'm a cranky gamer. Am I not coherent enough for you?

[pastel oyster]

because the upvote was not a guarantee of being included.

[dusty forge]

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I completely disagree, and am super happy to see the roadmap. A pile of features requests is completely different from a list of features to be developed

[real marlin]

zing

[drifting egret]

I want dates too but it's fine without them. I've learned from Ark that having dates can build distrust between the company and players if they can't hit the deadline.

[pastel oyster]

it was player suggestions and a voting system. they pick and choose from that.

[dusky kestrel]

And the upvote has been locked down for weeks. No bug reports since then. Mistake.

[sick socket]

I would love to have a margarita… anyone behind the bar?

[pastel oyster]

what? o.0

[solar oar]

It's 9am Janet

[quasi saffron]

You can report Bugs via F1 ingame. Or pushing Escape and choose said option

[pastel oyster]

the feature upvote was never for bug reporting

[somber phoenix]

The feature upvote was locked because there was several thousand suggestions to be sorted through and there’s only a handful of us that sort them. I believe it will be opened again soon.

[pastel oyster]

omg... it's random 😮

[sick socket]

Fine, a margarita and some spicy chicken fingers please.

[worldly kraken]

..the roadmap is nice, gonna be fun to start playing again.. but No Achievements?

[quasi saffron]

I think they'll get added naturally.

[quiet geyser]

And yet the most upvoted features are to be included at some unknown date within the next year

[real marlin]

Welp I gotta lay down for a bit. Thanks for the look into the future Keen!

[sick socket]

Peace out ✌️

[subtle prawn]

Most upvoted means as much as thin air

[abstract needle]

Holy schmackarony this roadmap makes me tingle

[pastel oyster]

what does most upvotes have to do with priority or difficulty?

[quasi saffron]

Next year...? It's just no ETA on when it will arrive.

[somber phoenix]

No it’s not you saw nothing

[quasi saffron]

It could arrive just next update, but no promises were made.

[pastel oyster]

I saw nothing.

[solar oar]

Easier to think of the roadmap as if this currently is alpha+ going to beta rather than EA to full version. They got work to do, let em cook

[quiet geyser]

You mentioned the upvote list had no real impact on the roadmap

[pastel oyster]

no, I said that the upvote was not a guarantee of it making it to the game.

[sick socket]

Yeah. Just cause we all want UFOs with laser beams doesn’t mean they’re going to implement it.

[somber phoenix]

Yep, the feature upvote system makes it more likely to be seen by the devs

[quasi saffron]

Or rainbow colored unicorns farting rainbows.

[quiet geyser]

And I replied by saying the most upvoted features appearing at the top that got popular which made it presentable when you opened the page which implied it was going to be included by the developers was in fact included by the developers

[sonic laurel]

W road map

[drifting egret]

True! This game is still only Early Access.

[vital topaz]

https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1047448895287992320

[quasi saffron]

They're there because the devs think - but do not promise - it's possible to implement.

[pastel oyster]

the top of the page literally says that getting a lot of upvotes does not guarantee that they will be included in the game

[strange barn]

OMG THE ROAD MAP

[sick socket]

They just wanna see where we’re at, what’s possible, and what aligns with their vision. Very straight forward.

[quiet geyser]

And yet the most upvoted features are going to be included in the game

[quasi saffron]

OMG I can read.

Honestly. I just experienced now that I'm able to read stuff!

[pastel oyster]

becasue they decided to... I don;t know why this is so hard to understand. They have a roadmap instead of just using the upvote page because they choose what they are going to add or not.

[dusky kestrel]

Part of that problem is that feature upvote doesn't support context searching, so you probably got 1000s of duplicates of the same comments with dissimilar titles.

[strange barn]

Well, this year is going to be a very good one for this game, love the little screenshots to show us ''hey, we already have some tuffs going on''.

I gotta say the sitting one is stunning

[solar oar]

It's a 2 pronged thing. On one prong you have a very polished start that fools a lot of people into thinking it's more complete than it is. On the other it's their own engine where every idea has to have groundwork implemented then the feature itself built. There's no short cuts because it's never been coded yet which makes it easier to give it an alpha+ title

[vital topaz]

Yes... We do....

[somber phoenix]

Yep, it’s painful

[vital topaz]

hide helmet trauma intensifying

[quasi saffron]

I feel with u fellow mods... Now go back to sorting!

[pastel oyster]

OMG it's Random! 🤣

[somber phoenix]

No it’s not

[pastel oyster]

Oh, no... it's not.

[somber phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-shades-mib-men-in-black-neuralyzer-gif-17328155

[sick socket]

Any news on a future base comp again? 👀

[quiet geyser]

Wife's pregnant, will definately show my kid Enshrouded in the future

[vital topaz]

Do you know that feeling when you enter a room and forget what you wanted?

I have that right now

[pastel oyster]

that has to be the strangest endorsement I have read... but cute 😻

[pastel oyster]

every time I walk through the door from my office...

[pliant quarry]

A contest? No news/active plans right now. That was a pretty spontaneous thing we did when ElRubius and his agency wanted to partner with us on that, but overall it seems to have been a success (even if it had some hiccups/jank), so I won't be surprised if we do something like that in the future

[drifting egret]

Yeah I agree!

[dusky kestrel]

RocketWerkz has the same issue. It's too much to coallate manually. Some AI would help, but basic context searching would be the first step to help you out. I don't know why featureupvote hasn't supported it yet.

As far as becoming overrun, I'd figure the sorting features on the backend would be enough to prioritize, first-in-first-out, no?

[sick socket]

Very cool! Didn’t know it was a collaborative effort. I was a bit late to that one. Thanks for the info!

[pastel oyster]

you forgot the "gaming community" factor - "I WANT IT NAAAOW!" 🙂

[quiet geyser]

You’re not understanding my point, agree to disagree I guess. I prefer open communication from developers

[trim marten]

I hope NOT with Rubius.....but yes! That would be great!

[subtle prawn]

What do they not openly communicate?

[solar oar]

That's not gaming, that's gen Z+ lol

[pastel oyster]

though now that I think of it, that might just be humanity... I haven't really stepped outside the gaming community in... uhm... a while.

[quiet geyser]

The ballpark general timeline of features

[sick socket]

Tik tok and instant gratification fried their minds.

[solar oar]

I come from the days of waiting a year for new episodes of Dragonball :/

[somber phoenix]

Yea thankfully that works, you guys just make a heck of a lot of suggestions lol

[subtle prawn]

You know what's coming 2024 what do you want more?

[lethal rune]

i hope i can disable weather system on my world

[pastel oyster]

OMG, It's Random!

[somber phoenix]

No it’s still not

[pastel oyster]

no... it's still not. 😵‍💫

is it bad that I am laughing a little too hard at this?

[lethal rune]

also it would be weird to see water for lore reasons, so hopefully if water is included there's a reason its untouched by shroud, maybe magical protection, or otherwise they just mean they are adding water to build with or whatever, and it wont be found in the world. though technically we already have water mud puddles.

[somber phoenix]

OMG, it’s Mama Kira!

[vital topaz]

what do you mean, "still"?

[autumn solstice]

as long as it is not the button/key mashing style of fishing mini game (like in stardew valley) i like them

[quiet geyser]

It would be nice if there was a month provided for some of the features, it would be unreasonable to ask for a specific date, its not unreasonable to ask for a ballpark estimate

[subtle prawn]

If we find water it's probably high up

[pastel oyster]

Hi! who are you? 💜

[sick socket]

Maybe only flameborn can restore water?

[lethal rune]

high up in a cave

[ocean anvil]

The 💥 happened!

[subtle prawn]

What if they want the leeway they have rn if something needs way longer than expected?

[dusky kestrel]

Oye, Mama Kira, here she goes again. My My....

[somber phoenix]

It could also make sense if it’s only outside of shroud zones

[quasi saffron]

It's Vano!

[lethal rune]

the issue is they didn't include terraforming in their to do list, my idea was that we can terraform red shroud back into flowing water eventually. through some magical means, not actually through the build hammer.

[autumn solstice]

obvoiusly there will be a waterborn (jk)

[warm comet]

One thing I didn't see on the posted map is the ability to lock things. Is this something I missed or still being looked into?

[pliant quarry]

That's understandable, though giving exact dates on these sorts of things and actually managing to achieve them is a lot harder than it might seem from the outside as a non-dev. To be honest it's pretty rare for devs to attempt that and actually end up following their roadmap properly, because things almost always change as games develop and timelines shift.

Doing it this way allowed us to share more than we would have been comfortable with if we did it the other way, it gives us more flexibility. If we gave exact patch/date timelines we probably would have shared less info honestly, just because some of those features are still far out and we don't have an exact idea yet on what patch they will be ready in.

[pastel oyster]

Toast just sent me a DM, he told me that they are adding coins to the game, but not for you 😛 (this is a joke, please FFS no one take that seriously)

[quasi saffron]

I'll now go into my corner and cry.
Forever

[drifting egret]

I don't mind the button mashes but maybe something more realistic would be cool for this game.

[pastel oyster]

weren't you going to bed, honey?

[lethal rune]

if they add water, then they have to account for someone digging the water, and then the water flow everywhere? or will the places water shows up not be diggable? or it will be? but water will just magically stay put. 😄 aka water in a cave makes sense because maybe it's an instanced cave and you can't modify terrain there.

[quasi saffron]

Did you?
Also I'm a slow walker.

[misty root]

I’m so excited for farm animals, townsfolk and townsfolk pets! Really happy to see those on the road map!

[warm trellis]

Im just a slow learner

[pastel oyster]

touche

[lethal rune]

imo if they can add water it sounds like they could solve the problem of diagonal walls too, since both require heavy engine edits probably?

[autumn solstice]

my favorite fishing minigame is the kind from sea of thieves, although it might be difficult in a 3rd person game like Enshouded

[subtle prawn]

That's going to be seen, for now I go with the expectation of it being static blocks and nothing more

[ocean anvil]

sitting here reading/watching - yes we have road map, this is great for most of us, though the 5% still not enough. Can't please everyone!

[quiet geyser]

Then communicate with the community that the timeline initially provided needs to be delayed. I think the gaming community in general has gotten really over sensitive about developers which is fair but open communication with the players that fund their company is not unreasonable in my opinion, companies are much too closed nowadays and only speak with their fans openly when they have a product to sell

[pastel oyster]

I thought toast said something about this earlier... too much chat and old age though

[subtle prawn]

Those 5% are always the loudest

[sick socket]

Ngl I like Animal Crossing fishing mechanics. Simple. Relaxing. Fish.

[drifting egret]

I always thought that'd be cool. Like Minecraft. You can bring water anywhere and create your own pools, lakes, etc. A waterfall even!

[subtle prawn]

Smth with them not knowing rn iirc

[pastel oyster]

wait... are you still going on about this? 🤣

[gentle forum]

Any cat lovers in this chat

[quasi saffron]

CaN i HaVe CoInS tO pIlE uP?

[lethal rune]

of course it's cool, but they need to make it work good, and not lag too, and decide on rules for it maybe, you don't want a world filling up infinitely with water.

[quiet geyser]

Just responding to somebody who replied to me

[sick socket]

I think they need like a pat on the back or something 🤣

[arctic glacier]

They implemented water that flows when terrain is modified in Portal Knights. i see no reason why they would not be able to do it in Enshrouded.

[subtle prawn]

They talk extremely open and Toast literally provided you with the reason we have the roadmap the way we have it...

[quasi saffron]

It'd eat some peoples PCs.

[quiet geyser]

Notice that I’m not getting worked up over this, I don’t think anything I’ve said is unreasonable

[lethal rune]

i never saw a reason it cant be added either, my point is people were telling me they can't do diagonal walls, but i dont view that as being harder to do.

[quiet geyser]

Toast didn’t reply to me

[warm comet]

The option to lock chests, ect would be so helpful, especially for those who wish to share their servers publicly.

[subtle prawn]

Good god....

[gentle forum]

[pastel oyster]

Keen has been more than open and communicative with us. they are doing a great job. They decided for (very good) reasons of their own not to put dates or timeframes on the roadmap. It's what you have, take it or leave it. It's all I can say.

[pastel oyster]

Did i not call it? 😉

[signal cobalt]

Thanks for saying that clearly. It helps having understanding people.

[quiet geyser]

I don’t see the need to get rabid, I’m just stating an opinion in a respectful way. People are much too comfortable on discord

[simple dragon]

Absolutely. For an early access, I think it's gone well.

[ocean anvil]

any application/game development will avoid dates to the unpredictability of development!

[lethal rune]

so basically my point is that i feel slightly vindicated, i knew they could do water, whatever or how doesn't matter... and now i'm betting we'll get diagonal walls someday. i don't care when.

[pliant quarry]

I... I did though I even pinged you with it #the-tavern message

[drifting egret]

Oh haven't played that game so I'm uncertain how it works but I'd take fishing any day lol

[gentle forum]

I think you’re complaining to complain at this point.

[sick socket]

Give it a rest, y’know.

[quiet geyser]

Rabid fans

[pastel oyster]

oh honey, that's not rabid. trust me when I say, you would know if I was getting worked up.

[full sequoia]

i'm just happy we have a roadmap telling us what they have planned 🙂 and they even said there will be a update this month Love this game and the devs seem great ❤️

[quiet geyser]

Sorry didn’t see it, was replying to a previous comment. My bad

[dusky kestrel]

Portal Knights levels are much smaller, and voxel size is larger. Flow embellishments probably would work, but only between static water blocks. I would be surprised if they introduced water flow like in Minecraft for example.

[quasi saffron]

People didn't saw me getting worked up lately. Maybe I should do that once in awhile. 🤔

[lethal rune]

we need a list of things they can never do, because of engine limitations and not because they don't want to.

this would make figuring out the road map a lot easier lol

[quasi saffron]

*Never do:
Pleasing everyone
Help people read and understand what is said

[sick socket]

Second neeeds a second drink. Next round is on me everyone!! Who wants another margarita?

[pastel oyster]

you are most welcome. it also helps that it's the absolute truth 🙂

[pastel oyster]

It's not even 10am 😮

[lethal rune]

honestly id sacrifice weather system for diagonal walls, who is with me.

[full sequoia]

pass, I'm having a malt ale 😄

[drifting egret]

Here's 🎂 for everyone.

[arctic glacier]

Portal Knights water was more similar to Valheim than Minecraft, and i would expect similar in Enshrouded unless they say otherwise.

[ocean anvil]

sips ☕ and snacks on 🥐

[sick socket]

They have lemonade too for those who aren’t so bold this early.

[lethal rune]

i just want to sprinkle magic dust on red shroud, and it turns back into water. would be way cooler to "find" water that way.

[subtle prawn]

Always

[wind trellis]

I really hope so

[pastel oyster]

Strawberry?

[quasi saffron]

Short is fading out too fast! Couldn't read everything in that roadmap! Bad!

[opal fable]

https://www.tiktok.com/@ramimak_gaming/video/7345888106857499912?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7319260257871054354 😄

[sick socket]

Strawberry lemonade with a sugared rim!

[pastel oyster]

and a little rainbow umbrella?!

[sick socket]

Definitely. With a unicorn straw too.

[pastel oyster]

I'm in! 😄

[lethal rune]

omg they are adding sitting

[dusky kestrel]

Perhaps, but it wouldn't really fit the voxelized universe and the performance hit would be significant. I also wasn't equating Minecraft and PK water, just using Minecraft to describe voxelized water.

[ancient epoch]

nice roadmap. i like it

[quartz portal]

Amaaazing roadmap let’s go!!
But where are “more weapons” though! 😭😭

And the “attack faster with two handed” perks is not working properly too, I remembered that now ahah

[sick socket]

Alright everybody. Always a pleasuring sharing laughs with y’all. Hope you have a lovely day. See ya laters 🎉

[errant violet]

https://youtu.be/LaZt6Xc-aJE?feature=shared they must add this asap most important. Climbing and zoom out the full map and yeah complete the whole map. I need this by the weekend. And 500 new weapons and gear sets. Tyvm

[lethal rune]

that means we wont get any work done anymore if they add sitting, the running joke is enshrouded early access with all this QOL and tons of content, but no sitting. valheim 4 years in development with about equal to show for, but their is sitting. so the logic is that valheim has less content in 4 years because sitting took 2 years to develop. if they develop sitting in enshrouded, nothing else will get done!

[ancient epoch]

best to use the ingame bug report for that. it'd be hard to track bugs reported on discord

[drifting egret]

Yeah now I can finally make chairs I like. I just phase in to my chairs whenever I sat on them. If I wanted to cosplay as a chair I play Enshrouded lol.

[dusk snow]

guys i have idea i love how late game armors looks and some mid game armors too, and im thinking that in this game should be armors stands for holding armors

[lethal rune]

what does multiple npc instances mean

everyone has different content displayed to them by the same npc? depending on their progression? or does it mean many of the same npc?

i don't want to see the same exact npc 5 times in my world that will kill the immersion for me

[pastel oyster]

the crafters, you can have more than one of each out at a time

[lethal rune]

lol that's terrible, why did they agree to this. lol

are they going to be reskinned?

[pastel oyster]

multiplayer

[drifting egret]

Depends, do you play solo? I don't mind having multiple if it's going to make my other bases feel more lively.

[lethal rune]

can they be reskinned. sigh multiplayer ruins games i swear. having to be forced to have content i don't want just because 80% of people want it, but usually it's 30% of people and they are misinformed about what gameplay is actually good.

[thorny fossil]

Placing down multiple versions of an NPC will presumably be optional. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to do it

[pastel oyster]

lol if you don't want more than one, you don't have to put them out... 🤣

[lethal rune]

half the people who request content like this for games, are people who play the game 1 week and then move onto nightingale or something, and im stuck with their suggestion still playing the game.

[pastel oyster]

It's a feature that makes perfect sense, and a rather odd thing to get weird about... 🤣

[carmine scroll]

nighting gale doesnt loom like its doing too hot.

[lethal rune]

it makes more sense to have 1 npc that can keep track of everyones different progression, or to reskin them randomly using code and AI.

[carmine scroll]

minecraft has multiplayer. whats the point of building cool bases if i csnt give a tour to my friends?

[pastel oyster]

maybe they will reskin them, maybe they won't. still it's completely optional and about as far from "ruining a game" as you can get

[lethal rune]

anything that messes with immersion contributes to making a game less good

[pastel oyster]

you literally don't have to place more than one....

[lethal rune]

it doesn't outright ruin the game though

[carmine scroll]

oh i dont want to hear "muh immersion" the game is third person!

[lethal rune]

third person/first persion is more subjective imo and also a different topic

[quasi saffron]

Most of the time I cannot even see what my character's doing!

[pastel oyster]

It's very possible to get immersed in a 3rd person game 🙂 Still, if an optional thing ruins your immersion, than it was your fault for using it.

[quasi saffron]

Big floppy head.

[lethal rune]

if im coop its going to be used against my wishes

because people have different progression, so i wouldn't even tell them not to use it

[pastel oyster]

well it's either that or they steal your guys. it was a very upvoted request, so a lot of people want it.

[lethal rune]

but i'd also be stuck with the seeing the same npc 5 times, and the option isn't "just don't play with friends"

[lethal rune]

why would they steal our guys? everyone can use the same npc?

[minor cloak]

I was reading that the overly complicated crafting system is what seems to annoy people the most. It also is apparently very repetitive and the tutorial is ridiculously long

[ocean anvil]

As a reminder keen is working on the individual quest stuff, so that might be coming in the update later this month.

[opaque crest]

roadmap looks amazing!
would have liked to see more weapon types but i take what i can get. events look interesting!

[lethal rune]

my issue isn't the idea of fixing the problem we have, my issue is with the potential implementation, basically any idea can be good if implemented correctly, their roadmap doesn't detail how they will implement this so i'm worried it will be annoying for me personally.

[pastel oyster]

it was put in the game so people in coop and multiplayer can have multiple personal bases with craftsmen. so either they steal your craftsmen, or there are two of them

[light lava]

Help, my friend killed the boss and now I can't complete the quest, what should I do?

[ocean anvil]

@light lavarestart the game or wait 30mins

[hexed ruin]

I'm just greatful for nameable bases on the map :p

[subtle prawn]

It was put in because the random multiplayer people can have their non coop version of it

[lethal rune]

okay well they just need to reskin them, or explain they are clones through lore.

[pastel oyster]

smh...

[simple depot]

bro chill

[lethal rune]

reskin through coding is actually easy for a programmer to do. doesn't even require an artist drawing it up 1 by 1.

the code will just randomize certain clothing and colours and facial characteristics.

[pastel oyster]

tell me you don't code without telling me you don;t code.

[lethal rune]

i don't talk about myself outside of DM

[ocean anvil]

coding /scripting is not as easy as one thinks

[pastel oyster]

If I smack my head on my desk one more time I am gonna get a concussion.

[lethal rune]

i said its easy for a programmer 😄 if it was hard for a programmer, then isn't that like saying running is hard for usain bolt?

[ocean anvil]

@pastel oyster I Have noticed alot of humans tend to be know it alls.

[pastel oyster]

no programmer worth their salt will ***ever ***say something is "easy" especially when they have not looked at the code themselves.

[chrome oriole]

Where’s the creative mod at tho? why isn’t it in the roadmap

[lethal rune]

i noticed a lot of people tend to assume things about people too 😄

[urban grotto]

there is first person in the roadmap?

[pastel oyster]

no

[smoky umbra]

Wrong channel for self promotion.

[lethal rune]

okay well you speak for all programmers, and so do i apparently, but i wont ask if you're a programmer, because it doesn't matter to me to prove you wrong, you can think what you want. and arguments from authority are lame, anyone can lie on the internet too.

[quasi saffron]

Finally you found a solution to your rainbow unicorn. Becoming one yourself!

[drifting egret]

It's in the mind of the creator.

[pastel oyster]

Don't care either way.

[lethal rune]

i played the piano before, so i am a pianist. 😄 and i sung in the shower once, so i am a singer. there is also this mentality of doing things as a hobby or a few times.

in general 10,000 hours in something means you are probably good at it.

[viral sky]

Holy crap ladies. Take the “I’ve got a bigger..” bs elsewhere

[pastel oyster]

still don't care. Any programmer that isn't neck deep in someone's code and says something is easy - especially on a game that has it's own custom engine, is full of it.

[lethal rune]

you're nitpicking 1 adjective i used

[pastel oyster]

a very important one.

[lethal rune]

nah, i dont speak very precise, you'll be doing this a lot with me if you talk to me lol

[subtle prawn]

People really love to debate about a opinion

[half quarry]

Creative mode while the whole game is creative mode xD

[lethal rune]

easy could be interpreted a lot of ways

[viral sky]

Opinions are like…

[pastel oyster]

When you say something is easy with the voice of authority, people assume you know what you are talking about, then if Keen doesn't do it, there will be people coming on here calling them "lazy" for not doing it, because "It's easy"

[quasi saffron]

Let's rest the case and move on. 🔨

[subtle prawn]

Let's ignore them

[lethal rune]

its relatively easy, compared to say, adding water.

[pastel oyster]

omg... lol yeah I am done.

[viral sky]

We need an adult

[ionic hemlock]

I'm almost out of popcorn can y'all pause for 3 mins?

[lethal rune]

there i became more precise. and now you are done. gg

[carmine scroll]

ive just never gotten into the whole concept of immersion with a video game.
i get like. being immersed in a book or a dnd game but far less so in a video game.

[sick socket]

Breathing is easy so idk how anyone drowns irl. Just breathe duh. So e a s y

[pastel oyster]

you moved the goalpost. I am done because you will never be done.

[prisma frost]

What’s going on here? 👀

[ocean anvil]

nothing

[viral sky]

Ego tripping

[quasi saffron]

War, Game of Thrones

[lethal rune]

it's the internet, i am not filtering my text every nano second, in preparation for someone to nitpick it... i always had relatively easy in mind, i just never wrote it, because writing 'relatively' is longer and i am lazy.

[ancient prism]

roadmap hyping and stuff 🤷‍♂️

[ocean anvil]

some dev talk, roadmap

[prisma frost]

Roadmap when guys?

[quasi saffron]

I'll start strangle you.

[ancient prism]

already released #news message

[sick socket]

Which roadmap feature are you guys excited for the most?

[drifting egret]

You really want to know? Well, come join me in Raid Shadow Legends... lol jk

[viral sky]

The next one. lol

[fickle cosmos]

So no mounts any time soon then? Great...

[carmine scroll]

i get that some people mighy have some valid complaints sometimes but man theres a lot of griping and and groaning and complaining going on.

[pastel oyster]

This is the way.

[heavy glacier]

aww no new weapons in roadmap 😦

[quasi saffron]

We got a piece of paper with roadmap on it. Nothing to get worked up over.

[urban grotto]

is using Enshrouded Table (Mod) is bannable?

[lethal rune]

its probably so obvious they left it out/forgot.

[pastel oyster]

I am sure that's just one of those things like "new quests" that's a given so not added

[sick socket]

I’m excited for pinging. It’ll make battles with my wife so much more fluid in the shroud.

[narrow relic]

Nope!

[heavy glacier]

finger crossed man!

[quasi saffron]

It's like saying... Update: More content will be added.

[ionic talon]

wow that road map looks extremely promising....npc villagers ..npc nstances portals to other worlds lets goo!!! im amped

[carmine scroll]

im curious how the portals to other servers will work

[heavy glacier]

yeah, all things on that roadmap is worked me up already

[drifting egret]

I really hope they can implement some weapon skill rolling though. I want my bows to only have dmg multipliers no elemental dmg.

[ionic talon]

its like theyre speaking my language ova hea!!!

[last crescent]

i'd like the looting changed, either auto loot or use the crosshair to aim at what i wanna loot instead of random nearby stuff, so many times i try to loot something and it grapples me backwards instead

[quiet geyser]

Dragons Dogma 2 will be 30 fps locked on PS5. Wuut

[viral scarab]

Lots of DD2 talk in #other-games recently

[drifting egret]

I'm excited for DD2

[lavish delta]

Mostly I just saw were getting town npcs and I’m really chuffed - I actually stopped playing because the world felt so empty and devoid of purpose. Like what’s the point in reclaiming the world from the shroud if theirs no one to reclaim it for

[prisma pelican]

We really asked for round windows before a deeper skill tree...

[lavish delta]

So I’m actually super chuffed they’re putting people that aren’t enemies into the world so you can build these towns actually for people and help rebuild society

[last crescent]

u cud build in a already made house and live with skeletons 😆

[drifting egret]

Lol true. Whenever I read some of the lore I'm like, man, the majority of these people are already dead...

[lavish delta]

I’ve done that but I my OCD Kicks in and I feel I need to tidy up then skeletons

[last crescent]

same lol

entire skeleton turns into 1 single bone lol

[whole tundra]

With the amount of bodies everywhere. Kinda glad it is only 1. I have so much bonemeal.....

[last crescent]

triangle building pieces would be nice, build on angles instead of minecraft square style

[gentle flicker]

Anyone got a fresh dedicatedd server that are looking for players? Brand new to the game here

[tepid ivy]

would be awesome

[drifting egret]

I think the best option would be to look through the Looking for group thread and window shop there

[pastel oyster]

try #1195389948069675009

[final gust]

Yo the road map looks sick!!

[drifting egret]

4sho

[final gust]

I'm doing a Roman empire build! I'll drop some screenshots when it gets a bit better

[ocean anvil]

yes lots to add, my guess that the top part of the road map is for the first half of this yr, only a guess!

[final gust]

Gotta farm up those mats

[tepid ivy]

What about the statement "this month"?

they asked when these things will be there.... that was the answer

[final gust]

I hope the instanced dungeon are super hard! Or have a hard mode would be cool to test the metal of some of our tryhard groups

[last crescent]

i wonder how they will add the water, hopefully it doesn't submerge already made bases

[autumn solstice]

basically you have to move your mouse side to side, up and down depending on how the fish is pilling and hold the left mouse button to reel in

[drifting egret]

I play solo but I accept the challenge! Lol I hope they're super hard and challenging.

[last crescent]

you can make your own hard mode, dont wear armour and use low level weapons at level 25 lol

[strong finch]

This game still has a VERRRRRY long way to go to even BEGIN to stand toe to toe with Valheim, unfortunately. At the very least I wish there were workbenches and tools that you had to use and not just 'some guy' standing in a corner watching you whilst you're having some down time. 🙄

Also the immersion breaking 'phasing out' of trees once they're cut. Sorry, that was just lazy. The game needs FAR more immersive factors and a lot more freedom in the way of how much you're allowed to build.

[astral hull]

Doubt the waterline would be that high but then again idk how they’re going to implement it

[last crescent]

at least the trees dont try to kill you on this game lol

[drifting egret]

Oh that sounds like fun!

[last crescent]

maybe water appears in the shrouded areas once the roots are cleared

[astral hull]

I think they would keep roots respawning as that’s how new players would get more skill points

[lethal rune]

they dont need to respawn forever, there could be later quest progression that makes it clear the roots would be removed for good

players can decide when to proceed with that, when the group is ready etc.

like milestones in the quests

[drifting egret]

Nothing wrong with trying to compare but these are two different games lol. You can't expect it to follow the same designs and rulings.

[idle pendant]

I really dislike the fact that the roots come back after they are destroyed. Once cut down, they should be gone for good from my map.

[lethal rune]

valheim has like 3 pages of issues, which enshrouded already fixes. maybe you meant modded valheim.

[spare olive]

i disagree and dont think the game really needs that. Would rather them concentrate on other things. better defining skill trees or giving weapons different power moves for example. I don't feel like my trees need to "immerse me" when they fall

[lethal rune]

trees falling would be good actually, but it's bias to list things enshrouded could take from valheim, and call valheim the better game, valheim is objectively worse in 50 ways, that enshrouded already improved on, if anything valheim needs to take notes from enshrouded as well.

[spare olive]

thats fair

[tepid ivy]

word

[lethal rune]

both games could learn from each other 😄

[tepid ivy]

tbh i did not like the falling trees in valheim XD

[lethal rune]

but valheim is also different, since its not a voxel game, so it gets some benefits of not being voxel, but i tend to prefer the benefits from voxel games.

[raw pier]

valheim modded is a perfect game

[tepid ivy]

never played ^^

[quiet geyser]

I've played Valheim for like 15 hours on Launchday years ago, would you say its worth checking it out again and doing a full playthrough? : D

[junior fox]

i cant zoom in the roadmap that they released to tell us what they are planning next.. tbh i was very disapointed when the 2nd half of the map was blocked, did they tell us when they plan to release the 2nd half of the game? (felt i was robbed of gameplay)

[drifting egret]

Not yet

[junior fox]

valheim > enshrouded because of 27.5 angles

[lethal rune]

depends, valheim is grindy, it's frustrating, it's not a true survival game by definition, it's more of a comfort vs torture game, and all within the time frame of 30 minutes, since that's how long resisted buff/food lasts.

if you use mods to extend rested buff and food duration, it suddenly becomes way more enjoyable.

[quiet geyser]

Yeah I found Valheim very repetitive and boring back then And I dont get the comparison at all

[raw pier]

if you don’t play valheim your toes start to fall@off

[last crescent]

personally, the grindier the better, the game lasts longer

[junior fox]

enshrouded is literally the same as valheim but worse imo

[idle pendant]

Is there a way to see how many points you've spent so far?

[lethal rune]

they now have casual settings though, and increased resource drop as an option within that, as well as settings for dying/mob difficulty? and the progression system in valheim i find really fun (ie the lore and crafting and how things unlock).

[quiet geyser]

Ok maybe ill give it a shot again Im not interested in mods only base game.

[quiet geyser]

I had 15-20 hours in and felt like I done everything maybe misinterpret the goal of the game and wasnt far at all and maybe content is added now years later : - )

[tepid ivy]

Will there be mods for Enshrouded?

[wraith umbra]

I this game going to have PvP? I didn't see it on the roadmap

[junior fox]

valheim has the boat feature where you go on big adventures with your friends.... nothing compares. enshrouded is like a 7.5/10 while valheim is a 9/10. Not the same game. At all.

[lethal rune]

hopefully, but it would be after release of 1.0 (after early access).

[lethal rune]

friendly fire consent based, and hopefully after release they said, they aren't against it - it's not a priority.

[drifting egret]

Honestly if the base game isn't good without mods... that should tell you something. The modders need to make there own game lol

[proven gorge]

Nearing 400 hours in valheim after trying out Enshrouded. I'm just waiting for Enshrouded to get more stuff at this point

[tepid ivy]

For now i dont need mods to have fun in Enshrouded, i am fine XD

[idle pendant]

Any way to know how many skill pts are spent?

[lethal rune]

yeah valheim really needs to learn from their modders

[tepid ivy]

I haven t seen that so far

[proven gorge]

It's definitely a shame there's so little enemy variety in Enshrouded. Hopefully that gets improved sooner rather than later according to their roadmap

[drifting egret]

I don't think there is, you can reset very cheaply though

[lethal rune]

there is a mod that exists in valheim to reduce wolf howl frequency and duration, or to turn it off, that says a lot that people were annoyed enough they made a mod for it. i wish valheim devs paid attention

[pliant quarry]

Eh I mean not necessarily, a game can make a great "base" for modders to build off of. I doubt the kind of people who make a QOL mod for Valheim would have the capability to build the game themeselves from scratch, but that mod can certainly make the game a lot better.

[quiet geyser]

This roadmap, what's the order, left to right, top to bottom?

[junior fox]

both of the <<roadmap>> pictures in news cant be zoomed in

[full sequoia]

yeah it's already on the roadmap for next few updates 🙂

[trim marten]

paper is up in #screenshots-and-art message

[proven gorge]

Yes, just hoping it'll be more of a priority. I feel like exploration was a bit blander due to not seeing much different between the first few biomes

[pliant quarry]

Discord limitation, but if you click "open in browser" you can zoom in :)

[last crescent]

im excited for the extra npcs, now i can build a base with everything in it in each biome

[tepid ivy]

Opening in browser helped me ^^

[pliant quarry]

The images are high res discord just sucks at displaying them

[full sequoia]

it's basically a list of features that are planned in near future and in the bottom are some that are planned for later in the year 🙂

[junior fox]

tyty

[lethal rune]

i shouldn't need a mod to change the game into a less annoying more fun version of itself, and thats typically what 100% of valheim mods do 😄 (though the mods add more customization since you can finely set your restbuff lengths, and food durations). i think it's part of devs responsibility to recognize something just annoys a ton of people and to tweak it in the vanilla game. not be like "oh there is a mod for that, we designed our game to be annoying".

[quiet geyser]

Ah, so it's not in a particular order?

[idle pendant]

Yeah, but I'd have to write down everything I have so I keep the same skills. Guess I'll add it to the wish list. Need to see how many pts are left to spend.

[tepid ivy]

correct

[proven gorge]

QoL mods will exist in any game
Enshrouded would have a ton of QoL mods by now if it was moddable

[pliant quarry]

I think the thing to keep in mind with Valheim is that it was built with only 2-5 devs for the entire period before launch. So obviously a game like that will have a lot of jank, but it's honestly incredibly impressive what they created with such a small team.

But yeah, lots of jank lol

[quiet geyser]

How many people worked on Enshrouded?

[pliant quarry]

Our studio is about 50ish employees currently

[full sequoia]

can always change skills later, you'll have lots of the runes 🙂

[quiet geyser]

Are you one of the devs? @pliant quarry

[junior fox]

yup their roadmap sucks. It should have been : 1) actually finishing the 2nd half of the map 2) actually adding more bosses (there was 2-3 real boss, 4-5 mini boss models)

[pliant quarry]

Depends on how you define dev, I'm a community manager (part of the publishing team). I help assist the designers and team but I don't directly "make" anything :P

[carmine scroll]

Bruh.

[tepid ivy]

But the studio isnt just for Enshrouded, right?

[pliant quarry]

We've made games in the past, currently our entire focus is on Enshrouded though.

This is our first self-published game as a studio.

[tepid ivy]

ah good to know

[lethal rune]

what was the teams most successful game?