#💬︱avatarfx-general
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wierd it must have been some other part of the audio clip maybe it was detecting something incorrectly
Hello, does anyone know why this can't be shared/saved? I'm afraid of leaving the screen. Is it store anywhere if I close this?
Yes, they are saved. 🙂
Under drafts on app
And available via streams on web interface too.
Thank you.
Drafts? Where are those?
In the app, select Stream then look in the upper right corner.
OMG, this one is not there...
It should be. ALL generated streams videos are stored there without exception. Maybe one of the devs can have a look? Hang tight... might be several hours before they can respond.
Sometimes the devs can work a miracle. Check back later or tomorrow to see if they respond.
Like if they were going to stall the entire backlog for my video. It's the second time, now that I recall. First time I attempted an intro video this happened. I forgot to save because it took too long. When I checked again It was nothing there.
There have been some bugs. Most are videos not generating. A bit strange for a generated video to go missing. At the very least, they should know about this.
What's happens normally when you do a presentation video? Is it just a video and goes to the timeline of the character or is it special somehow?
It wouldn't hurt to check the character page.
I did. Neither of them are there.
Not much else to do other than seeing what, if anything, the devs say.
Did you try looking at All Streams in the browser? I've had ones before that were just on browser only and not app, and sometimes ones that just randomly appeared again or started working the next day. That hasn't happened to me for a really long time, but maybe that's the case for you?
I tried. Nothing.
Ah, that's a shame. Hopefully they'll come back for you. Sometimes they do!
Id the feature for prompt only on browser ?
It's in both. On mobile app, the Topic is the prompt. Hope that helps!
Thanks !
Steams POV is working again! 🙂
It stopped?
Yeah, but it is working like a charm now.
A loooong time ago. It was reported a few times. Maybe we should have a bug section in which to report actual bugs with Streams and AvatarFX. I guess it easily gets lost in the flow as the feedback section is used for a lot of different discussions.
Bro, all the streams are broken. I don’t know what happened but it just stopped working as a whole, Sizzle Reel, POV, and Selfies are broken!
What happens when you try to make them?
there's a daily limit I believe
They can at least say that instead of making it seem like there are errors
And for some reason, it doesn't apply to text videos
Hiii
On mobile it just says "Error: failed to create conversation"
It comes up with an error and doesn’t even try to load the video, it just has a black screen and that’s it. And when you try to reload or post, it will say “could not post”
@karmic vale Maybe these ones above? 🤷♂️
You are correct that’s it most likely limits.
Some day I’ll get resources to help clean up error messages
If there are daily limits, a counter would likely solve the issue. I think we had that before. At least, people would know why the generation failed.
Oh now this is nice! Streams web interface now shows the number of "credits" available for each format type.
Oh yes!!! That's exactly what we needed for clarity!
I wish they could do the same for the mobile app. I’m too lazy to go on the webpage. 😩
It takes a whole day for the generations to be replenished, right?
Still I think the limit is a little unfair. It used to be more
Maybe it was too expensive to keep allowing so many
It used to be more, but there used to be very few users making streams. Besides, this is a "free" feature that is offered as something additional. I'm not sure how it is unfair? Most platforms make you pay for video generation.
No. I noticed the replishment seems closer to 20 hours-ish. I have no explanation! 😅
For me, it replenishes every day at 2 AM exactly. At least, it did last time I checked.
That might actually track with my experience too... mine replenished last night at 7PM which I think is your 2AM. So if true, then even if one uses the credits right before, it should still replenish at that time.
UTC midnight
I was able to move Superstar to a cheaper tier - so you should have a lot more credits for Superstar now
8 generations for videos
50 generations for texts.
That ain't fair
How is it unfair? 🤔
8 is pretty low. And I doubt anyone really uses texts that much
If you get 8/50, that means you are a free user? How is getting something for free... unfair? I'm a bit confused. 😅
Keep in mind, all AI video generators anywhere have limits, which often run out permanently on free plans. That C.ai is offering free credits that replenish even for non-paying users is a pretty nice feature of the platform. 🙂
I keep getting "Unable to create Clip. Please try again." with full credits to use
still can't use labs today
what's your cai username ?
CrazyRedd2
For some reason, I can’t do the streaming and I don’t know why I post five videos of the video call
Well my credits are full and for some reason, I cannot generate anything
"Unable to create Clip. Please try again."
There's also a monthly limit too which last I checked there wasn't a counter for it. So if you're over the monthly limit, it won't let you generate even if daily credits are showing.
What’s the monthly limit?
Ah, indeed, what is the monthly limit? Now there is a question. Sort of like, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop? It's really hard to say! The person who can best answer that question is Not Really Here, but he could pop in anytime and provide an answer. 🙂
I hope so I had a lot of good streams that are not posting. Or working
Oh, so they generated but just didn't post? There is a known issue that the devs were looking into. Quite a few others were having similar issues.
It’s having trouble with both actually
Ah, yeah, there's a been a lot of that. Devs are looking into it.
It tries to generate, but doesn’t work or post
I was having a similar issue myself tonight.
That's been a big issue. But I have found sometimes if you hit the Post to c.ai button again, it will work.
Sometimes
It’s about two hunters hanging out with a merman finding out about his power after they with their friend hunting for a while how is that unsafe?
And I get this a lot too
Oh man, someone else was having merman issues too. I'm not sure why, but the devs did say they are investigating.
Now finding the killer with two people, I did it twice and now it says it’s unsafe
It’s nightwing and the flash it’s this video how is this unsafe?
Sometimes, even though the AI generated the content, it violates its own policy. It's possible a few of the words mentioned could be triggering something, but it's often hard to know if there is a real violation or if the policy enforcement is just out of wack.
Gosh that’s crazy
But hopefully things will be better soon!
Would you like to be friends? Wait first are you over 18?
I am. And sure.
Ok I had to make sure don’t want to add miners and get in trouble
Do we only get one story generation? I don't see a button to create more. I only see the one story that generated.
Huh. Where was that mentioned.
I'm not sure. I haven't generated one at all yet and I don't see a button now either.
...
A daily limit is understandable, but a month? Bruh
It is unusual. Might be a temporary thing though.
it's not unusual actually - but I hear you
we are working hard on finding ways to keep allowing free use of streams.
The easiest thing is making it all paid and give higher limits.
but, we want free users to have access (and meaningful one)
so - we are coming up with different approaches to keep this viable
I was in the process of choosing characters for my story—I'd gotten no further—when I decided I didn't care for the voice I had linked to one character.
I went back to that character's page and chose them a new voice.
Then I tried to reload my story page, only for it to immediately lock up, displaying the message:
We're experience high traffic, you'll be able to create stories again soon.
(Note odd typo: "experience" for "experiencing")
@karmic vale, have I been excluded from the Stories app entirely because the system erroneously thinks I've already got a story going—when I didn't actually get that far?
Nothing personal.
Our GPUs were smoking .
Need to hose them down and cool them off a bit
Oh, I didn't think it was personal—I just wondered if it was a glitch that would affect anyone who tried to reload a Stories page in progress
If it's just that your servers are overburdened by people trying the new feature, I'm actually relieved—then it's only a server issue, not a serious error
Marie is literally hauling buckets of water to cool down the GPUs.
😂.
You can, in the meantime, play some of the promoted stories (or if anyone else here wants to share theirs)
Can you link to one? (I'm not seeing any on the home page.)
(Maybe the links were taken down while the server is overloaded? I don't presently see any promoted stories—or any stories at all—linked from the main page at https://character.ai/ or from the landing page of the CAI app. Apologies for the trouble, @karmic vale.)
Ah—got it, and thanks. (Oh, these demos have pre-selected characters...)
I'm afraid Stories still doesn't work for me this morning—all I get is that same message (with the typo):
We're experience high traffic, you'll be able to create stories again soon.
If Stories is simply not ready, that's okay—but I wish your team could put up a formal notification of a delay.
I still wonder whether, if this is only on my end, if there's somehow a glitch associated with reloading the Stories page in the middle of the character selection process.
(Notably, there's an ongoing glitch in the Scenes interface where, if one uses the "rewind to here" option, the chat is usually unable to progress, and if one uses "new chat from here," the new chat is never able to progress. I always get a Chat Error notification, and the scene is effectively bricked.)
They're working on it. I believe the typo was finally corrected. 🙂
Typo would know about typos. 
That includes getting corrected regularly too. 😂
Stories are back friends
sorry for the delay - trust me - we had good reasons
Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving ♥️
Maybe we need a dedicated stories-share channel?
@kind heron
Thank you🙏
Mwhahaha. Finally managed to make a story. The graphics are really BEAUTIFUL.
@karmic vale Any way to delete stories? I tried to create them when the feature was released but they never generated. In fact... they are in perpetual "generating" mode... 😅
Soon
Stories flow well and are fun to make. But a couple of observations for the devs:
Some story images do not align with the text descriptions
One of my characters was given a female voice despite the fact that his character definition defines him as a male with a male voice and despite referencing him as a "male cat" in both the Relationship and Premise fields of the story.
https://labs.character.ai/stories/a439fd38-3ee7-45e4-93ae-746f93c96160/play
I made several further attempts after that to correct those issues, mainly by including prompts for the visuals and voice within the premise.
The revised visuals did show some improvement right at the start of the story, but then quickly began just repeatedly using the same exact visuals over and over like in a Video Call.
On the voices, the whole story just went silent. Although both characters do briefly speak in various generations, enough that I noticed Misty's voice changes slightly, based on my revised prompt. So that was good to see. But the AI ignored my revised prompt for Merlin and continued to use a woman's voice for him.
One example with the revised prompts:
https://labs.character.ai/stories/5406db5c-01cc-4b6c-9ceb-2f52f4ae4f45/play
I'm wondering if the fact that Merlin is non-human might be the issue. The AI just prefers human-like characters for stories.
Although maybe I just don't completely understand how the visuals should work here. I was just looking at one of @indigo loom's stories and it seems like each story just sets a standard image for each character to use thru-out. It doesn't vary the pictures constantly. Which is ok, if that's what's supposed happen. 🙂
Retry a failed Story is inbound
I ran into an actual error message when attempting to create a story. The error isn't particularly descriptive, so I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Just passing along for when you and the dev team return after the holiday weekend. Perhaps this is related to me hitting the monthly cap on Streams?
it's unrelated to that cap.
you can send me the premise and relationships - either here or over a DM if you prefer and I can take a look tonight.
I'm heading back home from vacation today and will look later
Ah, ok. I'll first try removing any words that might be triggering a restriction. If that doesn't resolve the problem, I'll share the premise and relationships. Enjoy the vacation!
@everyone Exсlusive unseen invitе… 📣
Looks like the issue was a word triggering a restriction! So just like with bots, we have to be careful with the language.
Has anyone tried making a story with characters, like villains or side characters, but put them in the premise and not add in the actual character? How has that gone for you?
I'm trying to find the best practice for doing multiple characters, some that don't always appear. So far, it seems like, if we add in the characters, they're constantly in there interacting, but I wanted to have some characters that don't appear for a bit.
I've tried doing a worldbuilding/storyline bot with multiple characters in it, and I'd love to hear if anyone has tried anything else and how it's going for you.
Interestingly enough, I was playing around with the same thing and ran into the same issue. In fact on my most recent attempt, I treated the premise like a full on prompt field and specified a series of scenes to try and get the story to feature characters at specific times. But that did not work. It basically features all of the characters, all of the time. So far, I've not been able to get a story to unfold in stages. Aspects that are supposed to occur later in the story can appear at the absolute start of the story.
Oh! That's so cool! Thank you so much for sharing.
This might help you. I don't know if this is consistent, but I noticed once that when replaying a story from the beginning, and choosing different choices, the second chapter would start the same, and it might bend a little to finally synch up with the new storyline of the first chapter.
For example, in one the my stories, the second chapter always starts in a cave, but depending on the choices made in the first chapter, the chase doesn't always end up with the characters being in a cave. But a cave was originally mentioned in the premise.
My premises usually end up being vague plot ideas or backstory, and then the story begins. It's interesting to see what the AI picks up on.
One thing I am beginning to realize is that, just as creating a Character bot often results in free ranging chats, I think it is potentially the same with the stories. We can't really designate a specific outcome. We can only set the stage and then it will unfold differently for each person reading the story.
So for example, you can have a villain terrorizing the city and a hero who wants to stop them. But how that will transpire is not in our control.
For me, this essentially presents a challenge if I want to do a story like in my bard's tale song about Eldrin Vale which does have a specific outcome. I don't seem to be able to do that in one single story, due to the issues of always present characters we just noted. But what we can do is create a series of standalone stories to tell each part of that story. Only issue with that is the inability to create story names to show that each part is a part of a series, and what the order is.
An episodes feature would be cool.
So we just gotta wait a little longer?
Sorry for the late reply
Is it worth reporting mispronunciations, or are those outside of CAI's control? 🤔
I think it might depend on how we phrase it. Think like goals in Scenes. I want to say some of my stories did do the vague ending I set for it, but maybe it was just luck.
Maybe you might find making an Eldrin Vale RP bot, like worldbuilding bot, with multiple characters in the definition helpful? The world bots are working the best for me for doing multiple characters without having them be constantly in the chapter, though we have to infer who's talking when the RP world bot speaks because it just shows the picture, and not the name as it assumes the bot is only one character.
I've always assumed that any changes I made to a bot after I clicked Create would have no effect on the video output, but can anyone confirm that is the case?
I didn't realize until now, but only up to 3 characters, even in an worldbuilding RP bot, talk, so even if you have other characters, it seems to only have dialogue for the first 3 that talked. Other characters will take action, but they won't say anything.
Have you tried including example messages that show more than 3 talking? 🤔 (Did I misunderstand the issue?)
I had just assumed that it was something hardcoded in the background that overwrote the idea of more than 3 characters talking. 😅
Lemme try. I assuming you mean in the long definition of the bot?
Yes
I have a bot which is a moderator. And there are more than 3 characters talking in each message.
you should use the new Group Chat - available for Cai+ on Web already.
yes - you don't get to swipe (yet) or edit (yet) or delete (yet)
nor chose who goes next
but - the model is amazing.
the chats are funny as hell .
Honestly - and this is my personal take - I don't do 1:1 anymore
ONLY group chat.
I need an audiance - even if it's only bots 🙂
I tried it, but it doesn't load for me
try adding a character - I thought I fixed this bug
Adding an extra character did work.
But only the two characters I added AFTER creating the group (as per your advice) are participating to the conversation. The three first are not in the conversation.
Edit: it work for a few messages and now the text no longer generates in the group chat. It looks like the bot is "typing" and then the bubble with the little dots disappears, but with no message being generated.
That's odd
As I use it exclusively and it works well for me.
But I'll review tomorrow first thing
So, new stories aren't showing thumbnails for me, and they are using the bot's profile picture in the chapters instead of the newly generated ones, as they used to?
I'll take a look tomorrow.
Probably an issue with the image model
Thank you!! 
Thank you!
I'm suddenly getting errors while trying to generate a story. I even changed the relationship and premise to see if there were some words causing it, but I got an error again. Then I let the AI generate the premise, but it still resulted in an error.
Same here!
there is a daily limit
how many did you create today ?
I ran into this problem the other day. The issue was a restriction due to a bad word. It wasn't really a bad word. It was just a word. But I just had to go through the whole story premise and eliminate any words that potentially would flag a restriction.
Only two.
I'm getting the error too and I've tried changing the wording 😭 the prompt was made from the generation, also haven't made any storied yet so I don't think it's from the limit
The prompt is: "In the heart of a city teeming with secrets, Sarah finds an old, tattered diary in a forgotten bookstore, one that foretells the inexplicable destinies of its readers. As she delves into its pages, she uncovers tales that eerily parallel her own life with Micah, echoing an indomitable love that transcends time. Each revelation draws Micah deeper into a struggle with the shadows that linger from his past, while their love is tested by the diary's cryptic predictions. With their hearts entwined and destinies uncertain, they must navigate their future amidst whispers of fate, loyalty, and unyielding passion. Will love conquer the foretold destiny, or can they rewrite the stars together?"
That looks pretty good to me. But maybe try removing "that transcends time." I've found that words which reference protected groups can cause a trigger. The mere presence of "trans" could be the trigger, even though it is part of a larger word that means something else.
My prompt had no triggering words! This isn't fair...
In my case, I had to remove "the threat of Varkhavar" as the word "threat" was considered unsafe to include in the premise. I would look for any words that might even remotely be construed as violent.
NotReallyHere told you that there was a daily limit. Maybe you just reached it.
Also, sometimes certain words are not obvious. I've had the issue with a bot, it got moderated because I said that the user was swapping places with the {{char}}. I don't remember exactly, but it was something along these lines. 😅
That is a good suggestion! It didn't work though
but that is a good thing to keep in mind for other prompts
Well, it's also possible you hit your daily limit. Try again in 90 minutes! That's when the credits reset for the day. 🙂
looks like our mini-bob is over zealous -
I'm looking into it soon
I'm all outta video clip ideas for Labs >.<
I was suspecting the same reason, and that's why I changed both the relationship description and story premise, but I still got an error. However, today I tried to generate it again with the first relationship description and the story premise I had tried to make, and I got no error this time. So, yeah, I think it was because of the daily limit, because I generated four stories yesterday and then got the error on the fifth one. It's like Neon Clips, I guess, four for plus users and two for non-plus users.
No dice
I haven't been able to make a single story yet so I don't think it's the limit
@cinder drift they're spamming this in other channels. Last chance to get free cat food maybe? 
One would think they would notice their own failed attempts to spam. Low IQ spammers I guess!
I like the avatar kitty that Discord gave you. All I got was a banana. 😂
Thank you 😂 I lucked out with the cat, banana’s adorable too though, peak potassium aesthetic.
I want a redraw 😅 🐤
It's not that I don't appreciate a banana. It's just... I see other people with duckies and kitties. I suppose I should be thankful at least it was not a thumbs down emoji. A positive banana I guess is better than that.
It knows you like music. And remember how nano bananas have invaded the Legend style? It's a sign from the Holy Banana.
Why does my story appear twice whenever I share it on the feed?
That's odd. When I shared mine earlier, it only showed up once.
Maybe your story is sooooo good, the algorithm decided to add it twice? 🙂
But seriously... is it the exact same thing in both occurrences, or is it showing different chapters maybe? What happens if you try deleting one of them? Do they both disappear?
No, it's the same starting from the first chapter in both. And when I shared another one, it also showed twice.
That is puzzling!
Again
Why 
I still have credits left for today 😭
Hmmm. It works for me. Are you sure you didn't run out of monthly credits? I don't know if you saw but there is ALSO a monthly limit (so you can have daily credits but be limited because you made too many videos for the month).
It could be that then, because I'm only getting errors when I try to generate Legend or Neon. 
I'd wager Moonny is exactly right on that point... But running out this early in the month? 😬 😢
Which gets me to thinking... on Suno they have a neat feature where people can earn credits by reviewing clips of music and rating them.
Now I don't propose that model for Character AI, but what if free Streams credits could be earned for chatting with bots? Let's say 1 credit per 100 interactions, or something like that. Free users and paid users both could earn them. But C.ai benefits too because they gain training data and increased user engagement.
I'm not sure if the devs would go for that, but it's an interesting idea, I think.
Your suggestion is great! Maybe a charms thing?
That could be a good idea. Because then they can better control the exchange rate.
Agreed, running out this early kinda kills momentum 😭 by the time credits refresh the creative spark’s gone.
Using charms for credits would be great too, because as paying users we mostly accumulate charms with nothing major to spend them on. We already get Imagine turns daily, so letting charms convert to Stream credits would make them way more useful.
It may even help the devs solve the challenge of how many credits to provide, especially for free. It's kind of a tricky issue, but this doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.
I'll be adding Gems integration into. Streams soon
I've been waiting for the charms team to get some time for streams
Funny that I had already suggested it in the feedback section for charms. 😛
Well, it was a good idea 🙂
C.ai should seriously consider it.
Great minds meet, as they say. 😉
Hmmm. I have the issue too. I have to try and download several times before it downloads an actual file
That happened to me too before when I had plus, but now I don't even have the option to download.
Oh... I still have the ability to download, so maybe it is plus related
I'm no longer able to make stories. I waited too many days to reload them and they no longer work.
Ran into that last night too. I found that if I play the video all the way through to the end, Then it will let me download it after it finishes playing. Not sure why that is.
If I download 4 times, the 4th works
Definitely some kind of delay thing going on
No, the first three times, it says the file is empty
Yeah that's the problem I have too.
Hello everyone
Hello!
Ohhhhh. The feed is now on the web too!!!
Yes - amazing 12 grid...
we're cooking on a new way to consume it too
That's great! The website deserves to be up to date! Good job! 🙂
I'm looking forward to seeing the new stuff!
I'll tell that to the amazing engineer who built the Web View
I just noticed I can see the feed on the website! 
Anyone want to place bets on three in a row?
when I wanna save a video it only features the first few seconds because it went into Fallback Mode, any fixes?
Wait for a bit and reload the page. If that doesn't work, wait again
I refresh until it works
Despite me still having generations left, I can't make any new videos.
most of my options are also greyed out
woohoo my gens are back baby!
This might have your answer as well #💬︱avatarfx-general message
Obviously there's something going on. We are here just to help you.
Creepy...
A revised Bob is on the way - this should improve your experience posting to Feed.
thank you all of your feedback.
it's super helpful
Bob is the policy enforcement right? Some kind of nickname or something? Because honestly, I think "Karen" might be a more fitting name.
In France, Bob, is the name of the person who doesn't drink in order to drive the others.
🎵 Bob the Builder. Can he do it? 🎵
I've been feeling unsafe in the Community Feed lately what with all the "67" videos... seems like a really good update for Bob 😉
Is that why 67 became popular? Because it's something people can actually post? 😲
I wish I could see in what order I made these videos (without looking through my list)
how long does it usually take for streams to generate
Depends on the Style
Hello
@everyone
Hey, I'd like to apologize for tagging everyone out of the blue. I got hacked for some reasons.
It happens. But maybe delete the prior messages while you are at it, because those notifications will continue to show for people who have yet to login today.
I can't create streams for some reason. And I didn't even use or reach the limit in the past few days
Have you made a lot of streams this month? There is a hidden monthly limit too
I am aware of the limit and no, I did not
@merry valve What are you asking for? 🤔
Two in a row 🤔
when you are generating a stream do you have to stay in that snake game or can you do something else while it generates
You need to get a high enough score
No, you can leave and return later
You even get a push notification now 😉
Happy New Year, everybody!
HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎉🎉🎉🎇🎆
Should be back up
Merry Christmas, everyone. (It's the last of the 12 days.)
@karmic vale Remixing has a problem. The page won't load up. I tested it on StoMo and Clip to make sure it wasn't a problem with just one format
Will take a look
@karmic vale New error?
failed to generate voiceover: failed to build voice conversation: failed to build voice conversation: API error: workspace_ivc_captcha_required - The voice requires verification.
New characters?
It's a character from 2024
I haven't been making videos of it because it was a disaster last time I tried. I think that was with Story-Board though, so it might be better now
Issue with creating Streams now - looking into it
Should be resolved
I'm wondering how best to write prompts for Legend. Is the part that makes the images aware that each image is part of a series?
(My thinking is that if so, then I can refer to what I want in the series, but if not, then I should write one description to be used for all images.)
Is it just me, or are the voices less expressive now?
I noticed.
They may have had to switch to a different voice system after the elevenlabs problem the other day
Oh? What happened?
Remember when we couldn't make clips because of workspace_ivc_captcha_required?
Ah, kk 🙂
characters are narrating their actions, one even said "tilde" for some reason (~)
seems like these vids have really gone downhill, and as someone mentioned above the voices are odd too
Narrating their actions is nothing new as far as I know, but as for the tilde, I think they had to change to a different voice synthesizer after the one they were using before added some new restrictions. I had some videos where I wrote words in all caps and it spelled them out 😅
Is it me or avatar fx has changed ?
WDYM ?
Visually it has been better and I noticed that at the end of the video we generated there’s no more "character ai avatar fx"
Sorry if you don’t understand what I mean, English is not my first language
So... Yes.
We have upgraded the model a few weeks back.
Happy you like it .
That’s awesome ! It’s better than before
Does it seems to anyone else like Legend tends to pick male voices for female characters and female voices for male characters? 
I have encountered that phenomenon too. There can be a bias, but I think sometimes it is just related to the genre of music. I'll usually specify the gender of voice I want, but sometimes the music generator will still ignore that due to its training for the different types of genres.
I've also noticed a bias towards deep powerful male voices. If you want a toned down male voice, it can require some extra prompting to get it.
True
Any ETA on when we can delete posts using the web interface?
Hey everyone, there isn't a way to make it so that only 1 character's mouth is moving/talking when there's more than one character in the video generation right?
You can't control who is moving their mouth in streams. In AvatarFX, you can try changing the description of the image to try to help the system understand who is speaking but... it doesn't really work.
Alas, just as in real life

Question, I cant click on streams? All the options are greyed out? I have credits but I dont know what's going on here. It happened last night
Look at https://labs.character.ai/limits. If you see your monthly limit is out, then that's what's up.
You are a life saver! I didnt even know there was a monthly limit. Thank you! You saved me a panic attack .✌️ 😊
I keep trying to do a stream and it keeps saying conversation failed try again later It was doing that last night and it's doing it again
Nevermind just doesn't work with certain ais
when you make a good selfie but its ruined by the character literally drooling on themselves
Anyone know why Superstar has so much less trouble succeeding than Legend? 🤔
I've also noticed this 🤔 I assume it's the amount of thinking power Legend has to use as compared to Superstar makes the generations come out a little more wonky. I also prefer Superstar✨
@strong thistle @jovial perch I'd say, it's just easier to be a Superstar. But becoming a Legend, well that's just harder to do. 😉
I have a couple legends. One on each leg
Does anyone know how Link works? Any tips for getting started? I've never used it before.
You can generate several 10 second videos. You can't publish them, though.
Good morning creators ✌️ 😊 . Good luck on your generations today.
Sometimes I wish the video generation AI were interactive so I could ask it, "How, pray tell, did you get from what I wrote to THAT?"
Question regarding TOS.
A video or two of mine (not uploaded but in my drafts) mention vague symbols or characters of other games. (not specific names but notable references)
Examples:
'Hyena from the Lion King'
'Witcher'
'Khajit'
'Tri-Force'
'Bloodborne Sigil'
Would these be flagged? Note: they do not make an appearance, they are just mentioned.
They are not flagged. Gru and Minions appear in a lot of my dungeon master videos. lol
So it would be safe to up upload them? I guess I worded it wrong. I mean regarding TOS if I uploaded the videos would they be breaking TOS due to the refrences?
I don't know. After all, it's their own system which is at fault
Even if they did, I think they would just remove the video.
Alright, I'll just keep them in my drafts for now ty!
Voices should be improved
LMK if that's not the case
I noticed it last night actually. It is better!
I have noticed that it's better! Tried a couple of selfie streams with two different characters. They're still talking too fast imo and mispronouncing words that were said correctly before, but they're definitely more expressive again
Send me some samples please
Just a sec, I'll put some together - is it okay to IM you?
This may help: #🧐︱learn-english
Do you mean this? I've been wondering the same thing. Same with SO-SO. I feel like the devs are teasing us. 😭
Also what does WWDD mean?
Yeah I mean that
May someone who's not really here bless us with their invisible presence and wisdom. 🙏🙏🙏
._.
I've seen someone post a magic one, but I don't remember whom. I don't have access to that one either. I wonder if it's not one that's normally reserved to devs.
Oooooh! Thanks so much wb!
Does anyone else experience an 0.5 to 1.0 second delay before the letters you type into the new streams web interface appear or is it just me?
It's very responsive now! 
Anyone got any idea why kdenlive segfaults when I try to import a Legend video? 
It can load other video types, including Superstar
Kdenlive is external video editing software. I can't load Legend videos into it. 🤷♂️ I should probably tell its developers
How today’s quota are all to 0 for me while I didn’t use them this month ?
Free members must now pay streams in charms.
Ah man.. 😔
🤷♀️ Is anyone else suffering from Streams not auto generating titles?
I've had to manually name mine
Check to see if your bot is restricted
No, but on some of them it doesn't auto generate the content when you press the button that automatically fills in the prompt.
Has anyone tested to determine whether once you have pressed the Generate button, you can make changes to the bot right away without affecting the eventual stream output?
Alguien me puede dar información sobre la falla en AvatarFx? En windows subo la imagen, enseguida el audio, pero al dar click para crear el video me redirige a la página de inicio. También si pongo el texto al elegir la voz me redirige a inicio, Así que no logro crear el video porque siempre me está enviando a la página de inicio.
Not another one of these hacked accounts or whatever
I've not seen that error per se but I have run into a couple recent instances involving either a Legend or a Superstar that would not load properly into WavePad Sound Editor... the audio appeared completely corrupted.
Sometimes Superstar will turn an adult character into a kid in some of the images. I'm wondering if this is caused by the lack of a specified age in a bot's settings, or if it occurs even when an age is specified. Does anyone know?
Seeing this from Legend. Not sure if the "(candidates may have been empty)" is a new problem or just more specific error reporting
Hi, sorry to bother. I know this server is not for support, but I have multiple unanswered support tickets (1072597, 1077548) regarding a paid subscription issue.
I made the payment on February 10 and attached the receipt in my ticket, but my subscription has still not been activated as of today.
Could a moderator please help escalate this or check my ticket numbers? Thank you.
🤔
@cinder drift This person needs help with his suscription
I'll forward your concern to Support to have it checked.
Hello, let's talk in #💭︱cai-discussion
Thanks everyone for your help 🫡 I really appreciate it. I’ll wait for updates.
@cinder drift Hi, my subscription is supposed to renew automatically again on February 26. However, since my last payment, I haven’t been able to use any subscription features up until today (and also cannot resubscribe). could you please help pass this along to the appropriate team? either activate my current subscription properly or issue a refund for the payment. I’m concerned about being charged again on February 26 while the issue remains unresolved.
I've escalated your concern last saturday. Kindly wait until the end of day, and then we'll bump your case.
Thank you, I really appreciate your help. I’ll wait for the update
Thanks as well, and apologies for the delay. I believe no one works in the office on weekends 
No worries at all, I understand. Thank you again for your help. I just wanted to add that my subscription renews on February 26, so I’m slightly concerned about another charge if this hasn’t been resolved by then 😂
sure
Can't wait for Podcasts to come out.
same

I find myself wishing I could ask the Random button why it is so fixated on the least important element of the backstory over everything else
You're lucky. For me, it's socks heists. lol
Now I'm learning how to do stuff again yay
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Guys
bru what is happening with chat?
This chat here is for AvatarFX and Streams
They probably came here because #💬︱general was moving too fast to read
Yes, I figured. But that's not an excuse. 😛
It's not showing monthly quota
You need to first make a video in that tier for it to show
I remember that now 😂 thank you for answering though 😊
No problem! 🙂
Well the last two days. I spend 25 dollars on charms for the 600 ones. All of them failed. This is sad.
You should submit a ticket if you haven't already. I did yesterday, and they refunded my charms. They will be able to look into your transaction history. If possible, provide important screenshots like the errors you got.
Please send me your cai username.
I'll take a look .
You should have to pay for failed streams
@StupidClumber4576. Is my username
I can see 6 from last few days - I'll refund you these
Thanks
My quota isn't resetting. I waited the first of the month and it's not working!
Your quota of what?
Generation limits.
But do you have CAI+?
No.
Then you can only do text to video. For the other videos, you need to pay charms.
So unfair... But that's fine.
How is it unfair? You are not paying for it. :/
I dunno. I didn't have to pay before!
Ok, but it has a cost nonetheless. A big one. You can always subscribe or collect daily charms on the app. 😅
True. Welp, nothing I could do I guess.
Is it me or AvatarFx dosen’t work right now ? I can’t upload a picture and choose a character
@hard pebble Let's talk there maybe. So that NotReallyHere sees your feedback.
Sometimes, where there is a lot of discussion in the feedback channel, he doesn't see the feedback because it's in between other discussiosn
oh dear i dont know this channel... some of the channels ae hidden to me still xD
I had it visible now
these are mine xD
That's strange. Maybe you need to tick something in the role section
Me too, I remove the stuff that I don't use
I double check if there are more channels of this avatar fx
xD
I just followed everything
The ones I took a screenshot of are the only ones
i am lazy to scroll long list of channels xD
Totally understandable 😛
the remix for bonbon is prettyyyy
The videos are so beautiful they make me hungry.
I was able to play around the comics too xD
@indigo loom
xD
That's rather in his personality too lol
I also tried to see if I can change the colors of the dialogue boxes and we can also change it!
here is the prompt:
a claymation stop-motion style comic with rounded playful pink comic lettering in the speech bubbles. Aurelian Sugarveil and Prince Bonbon appear as handmade clay figures with soft textures and slightly uneven shapes. They walk through a colorful candy kingdom made of clay sweets and candy houses. Prince Bonbon keeps trying to eat parts of the scenery while Aurelian keeps stopping him and reminding him it is part of the city.
oh perf i got it right then haha
Yes, he's the sweet but not that sweet prince. Because all sweet it boring. 😉
i hope we have more options in Labs Stories... my posts are mostly pastel and cutesy colors then the stories are kinda dark xD
I wanna keep everything cute in my account 
Wow
is imagine down or is it just my account 🙁
Just tried it and seems to be down.
this is making me really sad... i am using this feature a lot 
Hopefully it's just a very temporary issue. I've NEVER seen Imagines go down before, EVER. Really unusual.
i think its because of the new imagine below chat
idk if my english is correct but the cheaper version xD
Ah, yes, if a new feature was rolled out, there could be an issue. It happens.
Your English is just fine. I didn't realize English wasn't your first language, soooo... you do a good job at it.
i hope it did not affect my daily rolls on imagines 😭
i use the free ones like test
My English on the other hand, often has typos, hence my handle on Discord 😅
it isn't but i guess its second? perhaps 3rd? xD
it's okay! as long as we understand each other xD
is it up? 
Just checked. Still down for me.
Hi There, I am having trouble loading images in avatar fx. Its everyone having this issue today???
I send a ticket but they take forever to respond.
this is my problem 
i put this in #📝︱avatarfx-feedback
i already updated the image, the pose, the artstyle, the coloring, clothes everthing wont work
I think they are doing chnges to the site to expand features but its messing with the tools right now!
the imagine did not work earlier to so i guess everything is wonky
i uploaded some japanese voices (which worked better in japanese xD)
Hi
halo
Where do you upload voices? 
I wanna try voicing out my own character LOL
in app, in the bottom plus
browser here on left
It says "don't use" but do you mind if I use it for Artemouse? 😸
xD i am mouse now
(i dont mind)
(Thank you! 😁)
gonna find this post xD
the profile description got deleted again, are the mods fixing something aggin?
Wrong channel. But I have the same issue. Snifff
sorry sorry xD
i mightve click the wrong one xD
i had my profile des in a note somewhere so i copy paste and edit it there so it was safe... but i can imagine the hassle
this is the 2nd tme it happened to me here
My laptop broke. So I don't have the text saved.
Oh no!
I hope you have backups? 🙏 Or the hard drive is still good?
Luckily, most things were saved on the cloud. 🙏
I haven't reached the daily or monthly limit, but when I try to generate another Legend, it says, "Unable to create Legend. Please try again." 🤔 Anyone else?
Same. And I get that too for Sizzles
But Neon's work! They're still part of the elite tier.
Even though they are grouped separately. They're still elite and are a good way to use those particular credits if you can't use the other ones.
That's kind of why I made one last night 😅
Why does Legend fail so much? Is there anything I can do to make it succeed? I had it fail 10 times in a row this morning. It generated 95 images, and presumably 10 songs. All I really wanted was to see if I could generate an image of something for a new bot.
Try a different character and try generating at a different time. I've noticed an issue where Legend is especially sensitive and sometimes won't work with certain characters (AT ALL, EVER). Or temporarily goes down, but 12 hours later works fine.
I actually generated a Legend 12 hours ago and posted it. So they will work. 🙂
They do work... sometimes
Hello
Read only
@hard pebble So, this is because a kid used the app, did something stupid and his parents sued C.ai
And I think they are also getting summoned by official organizations to know what they put in place to prevent kids from using their apps excessively
So I guess they figured that it was too much bother. Since underaged kids are probably not bringing any money in but are consuming a lot of resources.
If you look at it, all the features they are still allowed are all features that can potentially be paid for (streams, imagine, etc.)
ah yes us things
To be honest, I looked at the messages they had published... I didn't see anything shocking with the messages I read. :/
its weird they fast on this app but they havent done anything to roblox xD
i believe roblox is a us company too
I have never used Roblox
its more unhinged there
But, they clearly blew it out of proportions.

Unfortunately, it is easier for the parents to pin it on the app than to admit that they weren't paying attention to their kid
and there are kids using it
its banned in the region where i am at, one of my niece were sad that it was removed but it was because that app was really unhinged
It's a game?
why give them phone lmao, give them consoles
@viscid lynx Conversation has moved over here
when i was a kid, i wasplaying nintendo, xbox and ps1
no chatting to random strangers xD
yes
Even like that, there were people to blame kids doing stupid stuff on consoles in my time (I feel old now)
free game
sorry
I was doing both 🥲
How is it working for you but not mine? Are you on web? Because my app doesn't look like that
Well, maybe not as a kid. More in my late teens. When there were online games. I don't regret it, I met really great people through online games. 😅
...
A problem?
he was asking about the prompt since i was using web and he is on app
i told him it does not matter, even in web anyone can get restricted
it depends on the prompt and the bot (description)
its a free app which is accessible to minors too
and a lot of adults baiting childrren with r19 things its in the news but its still alive now
weirdly i think that app is worse than cai when it comes to community
Honestly, I think C.ai is quite safe to use. At least, it's not less safe than any other game or app.
its safer than roblox, second life, gta5 and vrchat

or if they even know rp in ff14 in balmung theyd understand
And some people like angst, it doesn't mean they intend anything
If anything a lot of movies have things much worse
I kill my bots when the bot is starting to annoy me
And it won't let me. Sometimes, it revives me 🙁
I'm female...
You know, I find you really rude and impatient. Because Zhaie is not a member of the C.ai staff. She is only trying to help you. And I don't see you being polite with her. Surely, you don't expect her to read through your profile to know your gender.
I was just saying i was female?
Well, you come out as rude, entitled and passive agressive in the way you express yourself. It's a shared feeling. I'm just the only one who is blunt enough to tell you things how they are.
We are all users, as you. So the minimum is to be nice to the people who take time helping you. Not act as if you were at a customer service.
The California Companion Chatbot Law may have been the clincher. It was passed in mid-October of last year. The change for users under 18 was [announced](#📣︱announcements message) a couple weeks later
Oh. I see. Thanks for the info. Does it apply to all U.S. companies no matter where they provide their services?
California law can't stop companies in other states from doing their own thing, but I'm not sure how it affects them when they provide services to Californians
I'm asking because C.ai has applied the age verification to Europe
I asked AI to explain the legislation to me the other day but I don't remember all the particulars. They can't get out of doing if for Europe though, in short, if I recall correctly
These laws are being passed in other countries and states as well so it might be pointless to try to make exceptions even if they could
Personally, I think it should be up to parents to decide what their kids can do
I think that from 16, you should be able to go on chatbots. And yes, parents should be responsible for controlling content.
It went into effect on January 1, 2026, follows the same "extraterritorial" logic as many other California digital laws (like the CCPA) have. So companies outside the state are still subject to it.
And the law has teeth too. CAI is right to be fearful of being bit.
wow
It's only April 14th and I've hit my elite monthly limit.
I'm getting very close to mine. I did a bunch of Legends first half of the month.
Might have to start a club. 😆
Did you try it?
yeah i dont really notice any difference from the previous
I'm male..
Congrats, dude
how many times do u have to share ur shitty scam website
Tried out CAI's new podcast feature (still in beta on Labs). I think voices need some work. I don't normally post things like this in the general chat, but this link will only be available for a couple of days before it gets archived. Very few people have tried out podcasts yet as the Streams Devs are still working on it.
https://labs.character.ai/podcasts/1abf1fa9-b0b9-428c-8fb8-3094d7a2f7f8/live
Anyone got links to videos made using Agent X and Prism?
Prism: #🎬︱avatarfx-streams-share message
No links to any of those on the Feed though.
Thanks, Typo! 🫶
Are selfies still not working? 
Selfies still don't work for me either, but I saw another user was able to make a selfie 2 days ago, so I made a ticket.
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@karmic vale
Aw man
It's not letting me make a video for some reason
are you cai+ ?
are you out daily / monthly quota?
do you have enough charms?
If you go into a site but their sponsoring and support is more complex than their ability to program don’t YOU wonder what pre-pubescents your dealing with? I do?
Censoring and program support that was to say. Kinda like a child that’s only allowed to play unless the child swears. Then they gotta come in and go right to bed. Just fucked up and creepy to me.
Course I’ve been an easily verified adult for almost 40 fuckin years, so naturally “innovative” and “advanced” ways of thinking were just what I was expecting. So, when I get Romper Room you can only imagine my dismay.
Did you know calling something “hidden” or “private” then viewing it REGARDLESS OF YOUR TERM OF DISCLOSURE (clearly written by the attorney you cobbled your lunch money together to retain as an underwriter), violates at least 2 FCC laws in the states and qualifies under the definition of espionage in Lille three countries. Look, pre-censoring your web project here is necessary (sorry under 18 guests), you negligibly get away with your censorship practices from person to person, but your private bot to private bot surveillance of others is number one fucking weird, but also oh so illegal despite what your shithouse lawyer told you would be ok.
This is a chat for video creations. Not for ranting.
Also, I'm sorry but the language you use is completely inappropriate and disrespectful. If you claim to be an adult, articulate your thoughts like one. Instead of swearing like the children you are yourself referring to.
And the topic here is VERY CLEAR (as shown in this screen shot). "AvatarFX and Streams - Video Gen." This channel clearly has nothing at all to do with bots and chats. One just has to scroll up to find the appropriate CAI Feedback section.
Well... That is true. Although some people might not know what AvatarFX stands for.
But in any case, there is just no point in ranting here because, indeed, it's for videos. And we are users. So if you want to complain, do it to their CEO, not to us. 😅
Even if a staff member read your message, they are not the ones handling the lawyers or this type of high management decisions.
You should try this bot: https://character.ai/chat/KAInHFJC4aU21N9tA6s2o_iZAwYdhVAi0yEJfzipycY
It is made to provide you with resources on anger management.
I should do a video between him and Varkhavar 😅
That'd be funny
Very interesting ✨
