#📕┇lore
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Hey
Finals is the best!
CNS - Im ready to smash for wats comin 🔥💯
they are for me 👉 👈 ?
not for you pookie
keep on forgetting i dont have embed in these channels fek
no embed L
more importantly no roses....
Guys! I got a Theory!!!
June and Scotty arent in the Same place when they are talking to each other. You can Hear June Has a Echo in the Cut scenes, so because Its A Echo, she probalby isnt near him and even on a other Countrie or even Continent
Or another Theory!!!
Scotty gave the Roses to June because He liked her (probalby a Date) and they Made it Virtual because they live far away
Anyone seen the vid when u log on about CNS
Yeah me
There's an entire easter egg hunt behind the finals made by the devs, and CNS is a group supposedly hacking the finals. I can't tell you much (it is a huge hunt) but if you head to #easter-eggs and ask around you could try to catch up. I think there's also a padlet there with everything they know so far.
CNS has been hacking THE FINALS. Nobody knows why they are doing it, but they tell us to "SEEK THE TRUTH BEYOND THE WALLS"
and they also say "OPEN YOUR EYES"
so it seems like they want us to discover some hidden truth 😱
Also there is a Writing "S Lies" under the Monaco Map litteraly behind a Wall
So Probalby we should seek more of These writings?
That too. We should definitely seek more. There are definitely more writings.
Guys what If CNS means:
Central Network System?
( I searched trough the Internet a Bit what CNS means. Here Website Link:
https://www.alphatechschool.com/computer-network-system-cns/ )
Its Just a theorie
hey
Yes?
CNS means cool new skins
its just a way to get us to buy more shit, which i will do, already spent 100€ and will spend 100 more
me saying it was 4
i misremembered
4 Lore Messages?
in-game, like “S Lies”
I only know the "S Lies"
Which are then the other 3?
only one was found, see Flex's message
Oh okay 👍
there are 9 more that we haven’t found
Oh okay
But I got a Question!
What If that is Scotty?
I found that Guy in the Steam Trailer, and He Has a OSPUZE Sweater on, and we know that Scotty Likes The Drink. Also He got a Headset, probalby for commentating?
(Sorry for the Bad Texture, I Made a Screenshot on my Phone)
What do you say Guys?
Are the 9 other all "S lies"? Or could be random text
I think the others are probalby Random and Not the Same
it should be other msgs possibly relating to CNS
Or Perhaps some about June, We know almost nothing about her...
what i mean is, placed by CNS
Oh okay yeah 👍
uwu
And would they all be text based
Or audio based, commentators subtitles, etc
honestly, i don't know
I "guess" Most of them will be Text based
there's hundreds of voicelines that are activated randomly by a multitude of player actions
i started recording all the "lore" ones but it's too random to keep up
i already have the Commentators volume turned down, i don't wanna spend the majority of my play time looking for those 
There lore in the finals 💀💀
Good Evening my friend, Welcome to the "Lore" Section!
And yes behind the Finals is a Big History
meow
Yuh ;/
Make a Google doc and let us contribute
that's a great idea! i'll get to it soon
Yeah that would be cool
woah!
so whats the lore digs so far, i assume corporation bad
Okay
Lets begin:
June and Scotty are the commentators of THE FINALS Game Show. Scotty also already Played the Game. Everything is going well until there are interruptions from CNS. You can see that in the cutscenes. Now June and Scotty try to solve the problems with CNS.
The interruptions are Messages Like "Seek the truth beyond the Walls"
And they drag the Attention from the Contestants away, which is Not good
Say If I missed something!
(I also Made every Short Summed Up)
Everything*
cns?
CNS is A Hacker Group, Central nervous system (Short) or Central Network System
We dont know it Till yet to 100% right
i see
Yes, thats Everything I think
prolly like a Truman Show type deal id guess, with the "beyond the walls" line
👍 yes or do you know READY PLAYER ONE?
aye, game def got some RPO inspiration
Its also in kind of that Direction
Yeah I guess
Because The Finals is also a VIRTUAL Game Show
And If you want to See how Scotty and June Looks, I Made a Fan Art about them 🙂
sure, i am a supporter of the arts
They probably dont look Like I drawed them but Nobody Knies
Thats good to know 
i think scotty is an ai
Their Voices are already, but I think it could be possible because He is very cold
great lore
hey, im not a hunter but. why does the battle pass end at 97?
People hating on the voices are gunna sound very stupid if it turns out that they did it that way intentionally for the lore.
That’s if they were ai all along
ran out of content
The give us less work to complete you mean
CNS could be anything, we don't actually know
S could be system, station, or most likely "society"
C is impossible to place and N is hard to place but "network" is what i'm thinking
Chaos Network Society? idk
lore moments
Has anyone noticed the spots where it like like the perfect place for jump pads in the last Vegas map
What do you mean?
They’re like circle outlines and it fits perfectly for a jump pad it’s on the last Vegas map
They’re some outside like they aren’t jump pads but if you put a jump pad on it and look up it almost looks like words or a QR code
This might sound crazy but…I think The Finals is a gameshow.
😮
Because its A Big Battlepass? I honestly also dont know
Yeah thinking this to be more and more correct as we progress
I also think "let s live" is Scotty
Why is there a finals lore lol
Because its A Great Gamr
Almost every game has lore
Yes
scotty evil character I guess
Yeah He is cold, so I Would consider it...
excited to see what history that guy is hiding especially from what june is saying about him or better how she is saying things about him
Yeah, I would know more about His Backstory and probably a Bit about June, we know almost nothing about Here
I mean from the last lore video, well this is what I think, but I think that june and scotty are not together on the same place like they comment the game remotely and the way they talked about the finals is also crazy. they are the perfect commentator. excitiment ingame but outside, they really talk cold hearted
Yeah thats true, probalby they we're both Contestants and a Bit traumatised....
plus CNS, omg. there are so many things to be discovered and unveiled
Yes! I wanna know more!
It also gives the Roumor, thats June is a "Odilia" from the Shadow Flock Team
exactly. plus there is that one achievement : just like scotty. where you have to win a game without dying which suggests that scotty propably was one the best in the finals but maybe since he was too good he got placed as a commentator or just retired. plsss embark studios, telll usss moreeee
yeaaah Odilia plays apparently also a big role. maybe she and scotty were sworn enemies
Exactly!
it's crazy. 2 lore videos and that many theories. and all these sponsors and their role in the finals. that game has a whole storyline without intention
I feel like this whole thing is just leading up to the drop of season two where were gonna get some huge new lore info.
yess exactly, massive update
cannot wait 2 weeks for this 😭
I JUST HOPE I AM NOT GOING TO DIE IN THE NEXT 16 DAYS !!!!
😮
17 it is
Guys I found this behind a Wall in Monaco, Does anybody knows what this means?
part of #easter-eggs we've found 2 out of 5
Yay!!!
as in, we've found that one and the SR.! one 😅
SR?
so did @rare osprey. just was not the first person. nice find 🏁
Saint Rob
#easter-eggs message
Oh okay thanks
What about this one? I found that Las Vegas behind a Container Hidden... I dont know If thats a Message
this is why this channel needs to go to the EE part of the server soon 🤣
It says E+R...
What do you think?
yeah i'm not exactly sure why it wasn't initially there
we also have a Thread for Las Vegas
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1182955042416893984
please send a picture
capitalist?
Oh okay I didnt knew that
But Thanks 🙂
🤨
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/In-Game_Easter_Eggs#SR's_Sprays Those are the graffitis we found on monaco
Yes I know, Spear Said that, but still thanks
Has anyone else seen the small sign in Monaco thats written in another language? has it already been translated?
1
Might just be initials of two individuals
Ded chat ):
someone read me some goodnight time lore
But who?
Which one? Do you mean the french ones? Because These were Songs for dinner if I'm not mistaken
Sings*
And I also translated them (got a Bit french skills) There is different Food on it to buy
In Monaco are multiple signs in french since thats the language spoken in Monaco
yeah I've been also hearing like announcement on that map in french
if you need any help translating it, let me know
We do, bring it please
I'm trying to find some gameplay where the announce is said from the french announcer
well I mean I find them but it is unhearable because of the ingame sounds
yeah I know but I can't play rn so I can't get to a place where I can listen to it silently. from the gameplay online, I can barely hear it because of the shots, you know
okay I got it. the female french announcer on monaco basically says: "welcome to the beautiful streets of monaco. our contestants have to be prepared for some looks from our sponsors"
so basically useless but the thing with the sponsors is maybe interesting as it may hint to the "bigger" games like the top ranked players. like the sponsors are more interested to the bigger players
Just like IRL then
exactly. I feel like everything hints to season 2 where in my opinion there will be finally custom games for some competitive gameplay
Well the devs have said that it's one of the most requested features and they're aware about it, but that was some time ago and S1 is about to end. So it makes sense
totally. I'm excited for it
our suspicions were correct then - French (and most likely Korean) voicelines are translating what Scotty & June say at the beginning of a match
Yeah that I think is right
But does that also Count for what they say while the Match?
I think the foreign announcer just say something at the beginning but otherwise nothing
perhaps
but i don't remember them saying things mid-match - that's usually the Announcer
yeah foreign announcer just say something at the beginning, "opening" the match
I always thought the foreign announcers are there to translate speech of the inside arena announcer, the one who keeps making jokes about team wipes and etc

Oh okay but still thanks
Do y'all think June is an AI?
I honestly dont think that but we dont know
what if the finals is an elaborate power play where all the companies want to take exclusive control over the virtual game scene but june and scotty want to swindle them all and rake in profits on their behalf
a
also next season should have a scotty and june face reveal ngl
Honestly so much going on that it could be anything at this point
I wonder whos gonna be in next battlepass though, this time it was Odilia, was there anything revealed about her? Or literally anything about her except her face item-description?
nothing else, but i expect another legendary ex-contestant in the BP again
Who knows it could be even me
My theory for the next ex-contestant is a knight
It could be Scotty, that would be pretty cool
Yeah that would be cool
Or I would like to have the next battlepass Contestant Like a Agent, 😄 that would be nice
What yall think the new battle pass theme should be
yo how to i get contestant role
Cns themed
talk
Ok
new battle pass theme should be about cyberspace/computers
The new Battle pass theme was long decided and everything is already done there's no changing anything at this point
DON’T TRUST THEM? - KN
still no idea what this initial message means, especially with the "?"
holy shit
eminem should be a sponsor lmao he should have his own mega corporation monopoly tycoon (i just mashed a bunch of words together idk if that makes sense)
Furries n Burries?

Aminom
what do the roses on the practice range bench do?
I believe part of some unsolved easter egg, if you ask in #easter-eggs maybe someone has more info than me though
0-0
OwO
UwU
Dood terraria fyucks so hard
Pink Dove is right.
The roses are for a unsolved easter-egg right now 🙂 It's still need to figured out what it does and how it does trigger
So does horizon, still gotta finsih it tho 😅
Today gonna be update?
Do we actually know if based on the video that in game cns messages actually happen during "big games" or is that just part of the lore building? Because i dont think ive seen anything in the hours ive put in since that video dropped
I also didn't get it yet, but I also don't get to the final round often cause I'm stuck at my current rank 
ive just been soloqueing since i work 3rds
Are we talking about any tournament or only ranked tournament
I think the glitches can be in any tournament, but I am mostly playing ranked
So I'm supposed to look for clues in the final round?
I guess so. June said that the glitches/hacks are mostly in the big matches. And the only big matches I can think of are the final rounds.
Alright. Leave the final round to me
Ohh btw I saw something out of the ordinary.... Twice so far @nocturne turtle
It's a glitchy victory screen but the screen flashes red alongwith the glitches... Happened twice so far
Did the flashes follow a pattern?
I don't think so, just flashes at the edges of the screen where the glitches become more visible and becomes normal glitchy screen
I tried to make it happen again but nothing so far. Saw it randomly twice
This might be server problem, although rarely there is icon of the servers in the right corner, but every match the doors open or close by themselves
either bug that wasnt there before or some paranormal shets going on
saw that thing too. This sh* scares me sometimes when I play against lights 😄
Ikr
yup
yup
are you talking about the error that keeps the camera on your player after the match?
and I had one really weird occurence watching a deathcam. instead of exploding, the body camera dropped down first, then again. like it was injured and died lmao
I think those are just real bugs though tbh
No, same glitchy screen but the glitches are more visible and a red flash at the edge of the screen
That's a bug and I've encountered it several times
stop spamming
This can happen when you press respawn as soon as someone you're spectating dies and they were the only one left. The camera gets stuck to their head instead of detaching. The game has fully animated death sequences.
I dont know If this counts to Lore, but does it gives more Websites from the Finals besides:
ww.Holtow.com?
wdym
It gives a Holtow Website, dont you know that?
Oh, the Holtow website that’s currently glitching
Holtows not worried scotty told me on that vid
Spawn,get bank,lose it last second,die,retry
Cyberspace gang war time
But these are bugs a lot of people are experiencing
very stupid question, but has anyone been hearing June voicelines lately?
I swear I haven't heard any dialogue from June in the past 3 days
I mean I have
Since when was there lore for this game💀💀💀☠️☠️💀💀💀
eventually
have u heard abt Genesis 1.1 as it is. in the beginin....let there be lore then there it is.🫡
No, but sure
#addmewingemote
since ever
Lore
Love
Life
In the practice range there are roses on the bench in the little forest area so make something out of it and just follow the path and you’ll see it
Oh sry I thought no one saw it because it’s so small
what i need to do to send photos 😭
idk there is simply no button to attach the file
(am stupid)
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Whats the lore on this game
Idk but I've heard it takes place in the future where the contestants enter the virtual world by a headset and some stuff from what I've heard playing the game and from the announcers kinda
And I'm pretty sure from the cashouts the winning team gets to to keep the cash from what I've read reading some accessories description I forgor game has some cool hints about the lore of the game and world ye
On my way to learn lip reading XD
your name stunned my cognitive functioning for a moment
Send me all the info lmao XD
@misty jetty yes, we have a thread for that in the EE channel 
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1212747235578609795
thx
Just saw one of the ad monitors on Monaco full of artifacts as if its being hacked or something, can't send picture here but i dont think it holds anything
(the building the monitor was on was not damaged at all)
Yeah literally
cns
i saw a building glitching out took this screenshot
the effect dident change the 40 secs or so i was looking at it
there are gliches around the map
yo. I saw that too
i have an screen shot too
just in case
W̵̽́E̴̓͝ ̸̄͠A̷̐̾R̷͌͝E̵̿͂ ̷̿CNS
Can I connect my pc account to my PlayStation account and play?
hi hello
why would we trust?
Why is the map dying? is cns taking over??
fr
YOOOOO
woahhhhhhh
The Finals\Discovery\Content\Movies
file named ATK_Billboard_02_Movie_01_1024_15FPS is billboard's videos, here we can look closer at the glitchy billboard
can you pin this?
in case if anyone knows how to open this files
HAY
my message was deleted
If it got deleted mayhaps you should stop trying to post it 
i think, there could be "plot twist" and we could have this skin at shop, but developers a little fkd up
true
anyways, check lockal files, there are a lot interesting things
don't post data mined info in here
Why not?
we don't use data mined info for Easter Egg hunting or discovering lore
Because unfortunately that counts as leaking, and we're supposed to find stuff in game, and not in files. It's just not what the developers want us to see
Oh, damn… I’m sorry(
On a billboard in the new mode it says there's someone named the bias wrecker
Who is that?
Who is it tho
Neat
CNS?
CNS coming up
Oh shoot that’s actually cool
what are they planning i wonder
in case you wanna see more about these glitches
#📕┇lore message
Probably to break the generators around the map That's my best guess we still don't know what they're about
Guys what does cns stand for exactly
central nervous system
I saw the exact same one, but I also saw another near the underpass area (not really sure what it’s in game name is)
It’s hidden pretty well by the plants
you think its only in the cowboys gamemode or is it in normal mode as well
CNS is a group hacking into the games causing glitches according to the casters but it could be something completely different its up in the air
Has there been a new cutscene with the patch?
anyone noticed the cl-40 being part of the buildID?
current build: " CL403893-344117C8-BK1452"
maybe its just a coincidence
Secret message from embark that the cl-40 will soon be hard meta.
Burger King skin confirmed?
hey, was playing the new event and when i spawned in i noticed a plaque in (what I assume is) French, cant remember where it is but i know it exists. Could that have importance?
🗿
What map?
I was playing the new LTM and my froze, crashed (a crash reporter window appeared), but The Finals remained open and either the game or the crash reporter was producing morse code-like tones that went on consistently for a good two minutes.
Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to record it, but has anyone else encountered this?
Monaco
CNS is watching
If my memory is correct there was some trees around the plaque so if you wanna find it, it might do you some good to look in more greener areas
Maybe there’s something between the new maps and old maps? It’s in the game, not in the files. ¯\(ツ)/¯. I mean we had one rotation with every map
Edit: upon further speculation on my end, I don’t think the devs would make lore that complex
Who knows
It's super complex, but also agree
🫨 It's about to get insane
if we take the current day, they are i think years ahead of time making the lore.
Really impressive, that prompt reminds me of something constant, something solid. I don’t think it’s small or big, but we’ve been looking at it all this time under our nose
here's interesting image of ospuze's egg, not sure if it was there earlier
what is more, have you noticed that new event video have some strange noises at the end? that could mean something
Send a soundbyte my dude, for the eggs, I would of assumed that they were all eggs with their color product
Or when you can I know leveling up on where is jank
We got anything on the white glitch cubes yet?
the links are known since some months i guess?
They were used for the EE hunt. they had clues inside them
ye, we've known about this since the Alpha i think
many many things date back to the playtests, but it's nice to see people finding them on their own as they get to play the game 
Hmmm I see I see..
Only ever seen them in the current event, didn't get to play post release sadly 🥲
looked it up. first mention of egg1_optimized.png is from 9th November 2022
but /holtow isnt a page it just redirects you to the 404 not found page.
eggxactly
yeah, just used it to send a link)
new v95 skin is insane
if you want something else too look at 😉 https://holtow.com
yeah, saw this
by the way, you can search for iseul-t site and it will just load forever
check this out, looks interesting
volpe.com is not a website from embark themself
oh, ok
i'm currently playing tournaments and heared some strange clicking sound when alt tabed
checked this a couple times to be sure, it's from the game
i've just noticed a wall that looks like there was painted The Finals logo and than washed away
oopp
have you seen a huge moon at the skyway stadium? and there's something like a bridge leading to it
once i saw it was red
it was was posted here in ee chat
#easter-eggs message
Aug 22nd 2022
not the same as egg1_optimized.
egg1 or more /ospuze has the Ospuze emblen in the left side.
I think that guy did a quick PS to isolate it
then it makes sense 👍
Might have been posted in another channel before that tbh
The fading side looks like a part of a QR code, is it changing or we have any other pcitures of that side?
i just saw a reddit post of someone’s pov. and didn’t see anything else
Here it seems to be changing https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1b3v6mh/a_glitch_in_the_virtual_alerting_the_contestants/
that’s really funny. that’s exactly what i did. i ran past it, saw it and went up to it. the. tried pressing stuff
These glitches remind me a lot of the effect at 15 seconds into THE FINALS Official Closed Beta Trailer
scotty has some crazy energy in that trailer its awesome
I feel like I've noticed Junes voice lines kinda bugging out, as if she's AI in the game world as well.
She had a line where she said some thing along the lines of "Contestants will want to stay Emotion right now." As if she was prompted to say an emotion but didn't have the word.
dunno if anyones noticed this before?
Anyone noticing someone shouting when loading into ranked games? It sounds like someone shouting "get out" or "quiet down" ????
SAME! But with scotty
I dont want to notice that haha, these conspiracy 4th wall breaking kinda storylines already creep me out! Even though theyre cool as hell
Yeah me and my mate have been hearing it on and off... thought we were just stoned but defo something going on 😅
there are much more poorly drawn finals logos at the Las Vegas then before
in addition to washed logos and map glitches, it looks like CNS dont want us to play Finals
I never really even considered this game having lore and now reading this thread, but the slow drip lore leak potential is starting to give me flash backs to the game Ingress.
it's crazy right. the brainpower
i just heared a strange phrase of scotty complaining with june
it sounded like Skotty is tired of June, something like that
i love lore
just spamming
huh, could you say this again?
What is it like?
Has anyone else noticed the bright white square glitch things around maps
Is it all the maps or just Monaco?
As far as I’ve seen, it’s just Monaco
It's all the maps
In this thread are maps with all the locations we know of https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1212747235578609795
🦆
CNS takin’ ova season 2 🫨
poopli
бобик
So is it real or people just joking about new Scotty's lines xd
Was the are you ready line on the original isult advertisement? Its in the same font as the CNS logo underneath the shoe
sorry I couldnt get the image to send
Its on the new Isult screens
it was not!
So the CNS has both demonstrated that it can manipulate the arena, and has foreshadowed a large change coming in the future. I think I can see where this is going
what if the third or fourth dev stream will be seized by CNS and the recent one was just to* butter us up to believe it's a normal thing (sorry if this doesn't make sense)
pinned
i wanna relaxe
have u played yet the final
this is gonna be a stupid theory but what if the finals is all staged, like the players and everything, i mean real shows do that all the time. Like how the WWE scripts its stuff.
i mean, we're the players right, and we're obviously not scripted
whats possible is the whole CNS thing being staged by holtow or something
to drive up them virtual insurance sales
well we are playing as players who are playing in the videogame
Same
Yes. Dystopian world and The Finals is smth like Oasis in Ready Player One, Hunger Games, Matrix at the same time. A lot of hints to lore. Search for more info on YT. I'd suggest my Yt videos but I'm making content on Russian language. 
Blyat my friend
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Consider it done now that ik anything other than blyat lol. Privet, spasibo for bein a good sport.
🫡🫡
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Bless be.
where does one find the lore
Has anyone brought up the fact that the game that we’re playing isn’t the only one happening in world? There are multiple arenas with different players with different announcers in different countries and everything. Also, they seem to have varying rules because mega damage is banned in some places
d
this game is so cool i love the concept
enjoy #easter-eggs message
how very CNS of you
.
Sorry
w
CNS are redditors
ouuu lore gimme more
I'm surprised it hasn't been posted here yet
i wanted to but I figured it is best if someone else posted it given my server name.
Rule 8: no self-promo 
on the subreddit the link leads to a drive page for: xX_TF_S2_FreeDoom_Ver06_24bit_Wav_Xx.torrent
The Finals Season 2 Freedom?
sorry, didn't see this
Quick rundown of all the CNS stuff we found today: #1213500600117891122 message
The leaked music sounds sick.
huh
Oh you didn't hear?
CNS leaked some music from season 2, or at least a chiptune cover of music we will apparently see in season 2.
yeah it’s fire
I think when season 2 comes out, we'll hear this same song but with the normal orchestra and synths from The Finals soundtrack
Yeah I just saw that. I don't know if Embark has automated answers for support tickets, but I believe that, like I said, they themselves cannot verify if your account was truly compromised. I don't know if they have the ability to remove items from accounts that's like a whole different thing I don't work there, so maybe they literally can't help you (I doubt it). I think it's just policy. It's just a bit complicated because you already had the Multibucks, it wasn't purchased by your CC, so you can't recoup the money through Sony. You can try to explain further through your ticket, but I don't know Embark's policies on how to handle that problem
bro what?
i found these colorless cubes during one of my matches
i cant send images tho so idk how to share it
we have a thread for these https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1212747235578609795
This game has lore?
yeah some more obvious like others like the messages when u open the game
so the finals is also an ARG experience where certain elements of the game may appear irl in some way or another
that or they're just looking for attention
Anyone else get a cutscene after playing the event?
its not exactly IRL, considering Reddit is online
its not just some run-of-the-mill game ARG either, its pretty well thought out. (so far)
it's the reddit of our reality though, i guess the better term would be "irl internet" or something along the lines
oh, I see, makes more sense.
Agreed, as if the concept of the game wasn't innovative enough, they are also telling the plot in a way that almost no other game has attempted
Maybe the guy who claimed to have confidential info was right on this
what guy?
nice one bruh
I'm not getting caught lacking, also, didnt laugh
...
alright
I didnt got any Cutscene 😦
lore, lol
Lore?
And which Event?
Smoking Guns im assuming
I found a glitch on the Map Monaco playing the event.
Just saw a video connecting the finals and arc raiders theorizing that season 2 might be the launch of arc raiders open beta, anyone know of any lore that might connect this? Seems like a really cool concept for embark to do
there is no direct lore that does this – we only have references to ARC in some cosmetics, but no lore connecting both games yet. these are just theories
for now THE FINALS has more lore than ARC 😭 so we'll have to wait for ARC to come out to start connecting things
lore good
Anyone figure out the pattern between the glitches on the map? From that hint rob dropped on that live steam? https://youtu.be/H6eoaIjbo08?t=996
cool game
Yo i saw someone ask this but any ideas as to what builds the commentators and characters we’ve heard about were
I need ARC
amazing
home screens glitching out behind the character, shits deep
has anyone seen the weird stuff on the side of the hotel in vegas?
i got a cutscene talkin about how cns was messing with the big games
g
if the two games are connected I'm uninstalling the FINALS
Not really. I'd just be a little annoyed I guess
why would you be annoyed? would be interesting if actions from one game affected another
It would be crazy if the machines in arc were Matrixing the people in The Finals
What?
its like a weird pixelated growth on the side of one of the vegas buildings
The simulation is unravelling from within bit by bit, wonder what's in store for us
when the announcer says the arena loded in with no errors this time does that imply we are in a virtual city?
4RCU5 = ARC US = We are ARC ?!?
Pretty sure there is a connection like that
where can i listen the full leaked audio ?
What is lore lmao?
What if CNS are the ARC raiders the next game is about?
i play the finals and have a father jealous?
What do we think? Tokyo?
Times square, perchance
This one looks like that yeah
As per @dawn trench, the other one is Piccadilly circus
my friend thought that the right section of that first leaked picture looked like a cargo ship, but then the big ass tall building behind it wouldnt make sense
New map for s2
Bro you just turned my brain back on I was on autopilot 😭
CNS is ARC
Either way, keep the theories going
i hope the map is a giant single building with many floors
Then drink a can of ospuze and get back to it
It's 4:17 am for me🥲
Ah then drink a glass of milk i guess
okay but you see how loads of cities have similar features
I don't think it will be tho, based on these images and the one's we found from the latest video in game, it doesn't look like that
Either way, anything to take us away from vegas 🤢
Ah alright
Also wanted to clarify that Piccadilly circus is probably not it, considering the size of buildings in the first photo
That I do. The thing is, it could be one of the more popular one's
The first one I sent def looks like times square tho... Then again, it's a theory
this image has buildings which extend further upwards than Piccadilly, and has trees in it too
but it's definitely a very similar city square!!
My last 50 multibucks says new york
True, any other ideas?
@dawn trench also said the same thing when he posted it in my DM
I didn't notice the street in the first one but it definitely looks like that
https://youtu.be/NQHkAPEcUf8?si=GA0Twwntkafuiu-4 CNS reddit picture and lore video are connected !?!
Any clue for the other place? Maybe around NY somewhere?
To me it looks like Shibuya with the trees and the overhang behind.
Now I hope you're wrong
I have theories
Well send it
gimme a sec okay 😭, finding images and analyzing a bit
Not like I can spend them 😭
Uhhh fine just @ me when you're done bro 💚
I'm adding you 🤝
@ me too
@dawn trench make theories during sleep 😉
someone have the .mp3 or .wav of the leaked music ?
Is it not a theory that CNS are good guys that are trying to expose the sponsors for some sort of corruption?
I'll wake up tomorrow saying something like "CNS is june because she don't like ospuze" 
thank you
Damn cant post picture but the angle of shibuya looks a LOT like the picture… can I send anyone?
That's the most common theory yes
I mean that's pretty much implied
How does that play into ARC then?
This could just mean that it's a future version where the building got turned into a skyscraper
skyway miami map is near
hein ??
Ah okay, just thought because of the message earlier that CNS are ARC
What now?
It's a theory that the sponsors, the fans, the game show, are all just things made by the robots to keep humanity in their control. I don't buy into it and I honestly hope the story doesn't go in that direction but it could
next season 2 theme might be miami beach
Is in London a library that's similar to the one from the 2nd lore video?
that why they added dust sun set into the game
Which one?
this map going to be like las vegas
Oii speaking of skybridge
Didn't we had a scene from the last video with something similar?
anyway do you guys see what I'm cooking
Saw this on twitter, looks promising
#1209839696729874472 message this one. I believe thats a top down view of a library
No no I meant which library you're talking about
@sacred latch
sorry if these are silly questions, but is the sailor cap cosmetic tied to the easter egg hunt
I am not talking about a specific library. I was asking if there's one that's similar to this one in london
Understood
im also confused as to how people get "roles" associated with their discord accounts, but yall seem the right group to ask, so im shooting in the dark. i just want to participate somehow lol
this may look similar
it would be impossible to pin down any architecture or style, we just have to look at the props and style
Location?
Where's this?
once you start posting in the server you get XP, you can level up and the roles are based on level
tokyo
You deal with this while I'll deal with another issue
which issue?
[insert night time downtown districts]
Do you have a theory on the next map location?
I'll tell you in DM hang on
thank you! thats just any of the channels within the server? Im not really versed in discord as a platform, but nobody has been forthcoming about answering these low level questions so far
not enough info
The only thing I'm sure of is that it has skyscrapers
Obviously that means it's a rural town /j
nah a medieval castle
Gotta be
these guys are having a field-day reposting stuff from Reddit i see
Yeah fs
Any thing about the last picture name from CNS https://www.reddit.com/r/cns/comments/1b5dmui/_/
4vym5offd3mc1.jpeg
?
Not enough info yet
Anyways the new map is CNN HQ. Posted proof video in video-content channel. Enjoy. BTW S-lies probably means that the letter S in CNS is wrong. It should be CNN.
no data mining stuff. everything in terms of fair play of ee hunting
What does "Seek the truth behind the walls" and "One night three dawns see the signs" mean?
Who’s L? We only know “S lies” as potentially Scotty lying
Scotty or Sophia, L could really only be Lapis at this point
Who are all of these names?
Contestants can see each other. This isn't a coincidence. It is a play one words and has ties to the "sea" or ocean. The Finals has something to do with the ocean. In the ocean there are fish. People catch fish. Contestants are trying to catch money in the game. Therefore contestants are people.
Thanks
Sofia from Ospuze is Sophia from the CNS document ?
Is it correct that there are 10 hidden messages across the maps, and that only one has been found?
yes
Wow, I just watched your video lol
could be assumed. ‘Sofia’ was used in-game, but i believe this is the first sighting of ‘Sophia’
lot has happened since 😅
Even the one from 3 weeks ago? What has changed since
another lore vignette, in-game teasers and now all the CNS posts
Where can I find the CNS posts?
Is there anyway to load into the maps with no players? I would love to hunt for messages
currently there is not
Nice lore
Where is Page 2?
Because there says Page 1 of 2
But nice Picture
Lore
Lore?
I like that we have a discord and more for this game.. I just don't know what to do with my XP now that I am level 50 and completed the battle pass
Not lore related, but your XP is technically stacking and will be put towards future career levels if/when they're added. At least that's what happened when levels 41-50 were introduced.
Ahhh good to know thank you ☺️
are the little pixelated patches on buildings a lore thing or an easter egg of some sort?
both
Two Sofias or using a misspelling as an insult?
i honestly do not know 😅
That’s sounds like something a member of CNS would say

lore?
To the arc raiders conspiracy I did just notice that during the start of the game for team intro each team has a different colored stripe behind them same colors that are in the arc logo
It is a teaser for what's coming next...
thats so fire waiting for it to drop on spotify🔥 🔥 🔥
oh crap! yeah
it *might not be the same Sofia
i don't have subtitles on, so we could corroborate with the lore vignette as well
I don't think Rob would put Sofia and Sophia as separate characters, except as a red herring to throw us off 🤣
ok that means it might be an oversight in the MultiCo doc?
Sofia in the lore video too, so Multicorp either calls her Sophia, or this is a different character
exactly
to be fair people often mess up native names like that
I wonder if Rob was just making it late at night and forgot 😭
ye i'm willing to bet on that. changing the character's native name now is uh, not cool
they would not have changed it in the time between 2 weeks ago and now 😭
Could very well just be an mistake on the name spelling
ye that's what we're saying
but I just don't see a reason why it would be anyone other than Sofia Petronelle, since she is in deep with MultiCorp
but let's just keep an open mind, that maybe there is another Sophia
Sofia's twin sister Sophia lol
the lore is getting deep... 
what do we think about MultiCo referring to them as glitches?
I do like the arc theory of the lore
CASE 1:
Typical corporate speak. They won't outright say that they got "hacked". It will scare the investors and consumers as well . They want to show that "the finals" is safe and totally under their control.
We need to make a summary of this lore cuz i really really want to make an s1 lore theory video at the end of the season
are you gonna rap it 😭?
CASE 2:
MultiCo are proud of their security tech. They don't believe anything can go wrong. They are so confident that they think they cannot get hacked. So whatever anomalies are happening in the arena are just some minor "glitches". Nothing to worry about ._.
indeed: #1213500600117891122 message
Idk if people have already talked about this but I think there is some brainwashing going on. I think that the drink I think was called Ozpuze or something and maybe the VR headset and more are a kind of mental brainwashing where all these mentions by the announcers and advertisements are brainwashing the people to think that everything is fine. They use The Finals as a medium to get those products out there as it's the most popular gameshow and they know they can get the most people from there. It's kinda like how companies use influences to sell products because if The Finals endorse it then it must be good. There is something in the back that MultiCo is planning that they can't ruin their reputation for because that illusion of 'nothing is going on everything is fine' can go away. That's why I think the hacker is trying to pull these people playing the game out of this matrix of advertising and brainwashing. This is just my take on it I'm not very good at analysis
In vegas there are some stands with ospuze bottles can anybody with a good pc try to take a screenshot to the labels? Was curious to read the ingredients but on Xbox I can’t see shit ahah
news?
TLDR any new lore updates from this patch and the previous one?
yep! #1213500600117891122
So weird thing i noticed when I went to equip the Odilia skin, it calls the skin obsidian pointe, has anyone else noticed this?
How the cns music has me feeling
(getting contestant rank)
Interesting, is this a location on a map?
It could be that rather than being broadcasted in from the outside the messages were already implanted within the system, causing them to appear as glitches rather than hacks
No, it’s an outfit, the level 96 outfit on the bp actually
I guess its not really Odilia because its just an outfit, the name itself is a combination of a description of the color and the specific kind of shoe ballet dancers wear. I think the Odilia facial appearence actually has her name though
Oh?
Thanks for the answer, it just seemed a bit off to me that it would be called that on the bp then be called something different when going to equip it
I'd say it's also a reference to Odile, the black swan in the swan lake?
Wait I shouldn't try to read right after waking up
So the opposite of snowflake pointe?
Yeah thats honestly probabaly the reason it cant be named after Odilia
Nah, the swan lake is public domain
I meant as in the two outfits would have to have similar names to match with the usual naming for the finals
Well that’s fair
is this a beta hat?

hien
I'm saying obsidian pointe is that a location because it should be Odilia not the new name, ee perhaps idk
Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding, as far as I know it could be a new map/location coming soon
I am starting to notice more CNS Anomalies.
Couldn't upload, but here. >> https://i.imgur.com/WA5m7kC.jpeg
Also noticed it happening on our right side between the two buildings we were traveling, but failed to screen cap it.
Scotty gets meaner with each update
I don’t know either trying to find out as well
middgame advertisments
did yall try scanninh the Holtow barcode lately?
its been changed since its first been
Guys what class do you think scotty is
Sound like a heavy lol
I cannot imagaine that deep voice in a light/medium body 💀
I can’t post the video but I recorded a table disappearing into “VR pixels” when I broke it. Anyone else seen something like that?
sounds heavy now but was medium in his prime 😄
too much ospuze
LMAO
yooooooooooooo
In Argon casino, there are multiple stands the first one is right after the sphere at the entrance
No, that’s interesting, go over to the easter egg guys and talk to them about it, although i imagine they’re going insane over the CNS stuff rn
New post by CNS #1213500600117891122 message
Have fun with it.
״one night, three dawns”
Meaning is the 3 dawns Civil (6 Deg) Nautical (12 Deg) & Astronomical (18 Deg)
Where the lore at
In smoking guns there a hidden light under the map.
I accidentally no clipped under there when trying to join a game
666
Lore is story
it's in the channel description but you can start here
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lore
CNS have something bad on Sophia
love the lore
S lies
S - Sophia?
Based on the current evidence... Leaning more towards her, still not entirely sure tho
Just kidding, our favorite drink brand would never betray us
What is the video that posted on finals chat? June and Scotty conversation regarding Scotty’s addiction to ospuze
that is a fake video. lore vignettes are pinned in this channel
#📕┇lore message
That's a real video but the dialogues are altered and not meant to be taken seriously. It is simply a running joke in the #⚡┇the-finals-chat
The real vids can be found here: #📕┇lore message
She’s lying about her drinks
She might even be removed as a sponsor for doing illegal things
i was grappling around the corner of an exterior on vegas and it looked like the top of the corner was made out of some kind of glitchy particles
not sure if it was a visual issue or some kind of easter egg
took you long enough
If you're talking about these: #1212747235578609795 message
Then it's not a bug: #1212747235578609795 message
yeah it was just like that
Check the second message link I provided
What if the finals is like a game show? I mean think about it. All the maps look like an arena and there’s people in stands watching. So like it’s all fake
the game literally tells you it is
Thanks mate
It IS a game show 💀💀
I mean that’s what I have been thinking. There’s literally commentators. I’m surprised noones brought this theory up yet.
What are you even talking about? The game literally tells you that!
Anyway I have something to help you
I’m baiting 💀
Don't do it here
go yap elsewhere 💀
Yup #⚡┇the-finals-chat is there for these kind of stuff...
Bro can NOT take a joke 💀
average new member behavior
It's not about taking a joke, being disruptive isn't something you'll get away with... While i don't care much, the CMs def do
Then get a staff to ban me, I haven’t violated any rules
Ok I have been bounced here for talking about lore in EE
Yeah things are going pretty intense over there because of all the data we got recently
I'm really keen on the theory that THE FINALS is some kind of prison, but I think THE FINALS itself is the involuntary one. The "server" that runs it is a brain (or many brains) in a jar forced to act as a VR server, and CNS, being the Central Nervous System, is the brain(s) fighting back.
CNS isn’t confirmed to be Central Nervous System - that remains a theory only “eyed” by Rob. in other words, it might be related, but we don’t know how yet
just an fyi btw, keep on theorizing 
Ah you beat me to it
It's a similar theory to the one's that are being made by many. Would you like to elaborate more @fallen bluff? Like why do you think so... The basis of the theory etc?
This could help us visualize more
For some reason I thought I saw a comment from him doing something more than "eyeballs"
You remember the comment? A screenshot perhaps
There was a comment he deleted on a youtube video. I didn't think to save it, he was basically posting "666" in a bunch of different ways
"Do you think all the locations in the finals are like, ruined in the real world of the finals? Hence why they recreate them?"
Which video do you remember?
most likely one of RHB’s
I wasn't really following the hunt when I saw it, but it was a video about the hunt and I commented about the roman numeral math. When I saw my comment was "liked", I clicked on it, and the parent was gone
Being honest with you, don't do this... It'll just get you muted. Go to #⚡┇the-finals-chat and #🥚┇off-topic and chat normally
Thank you
If I could share images, I'd share a screenshot of my YT comment history
but it included the capital letters DCXII and then "44"
fair enough, thanks. system is kinda silly
You can DM it to one of the red or green ranks
Bot is asleep 
Do you mind reposting it Outsider?
Sure I'll do it for you
The image @fallen bluff was talking about
ye that’s related to the EE hunt
I figured that once I saw the T9 code thing
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Thanks gearbot wonderful 
I'm laughing like a maniac at 4:15 am
just asking but have there been any theories on the skins as well?
I’m guessing y’all have seen the glitches on the maps
yes
Yes
let me inn
Send a link to it?
I don't think I even saw that... 
Do contestants get to spend the banked money?
Good question I mean in terms of voice lines it is confirmed that the first layers newfound fame and glory after winning and cashing out is real so I suppose so. But by that logic you would have thousands(if not millions because the finals is a global game show) of players if their good and they won their games be millionaires in real life so 🤷♂️
Doesn't this assume that the amount won per cashout is distributed as per person and not split by 3? Or that they compete more than once a day/week or month?
That’s true, it would probably have its own set schedule for when it airs every week. And then the cash probably would be split among your teammates
since the cashouts are in a game i feel like there's a separate sum of prize money for the winners, so not every decently good contestant becomes a millionaire
Yeah
Real lore in this game?
It was prolly cloaked XD
Anyway, better late then never I guess
Is there anyone I can ask abt something lote related real quick?
You can try me:)
Alr thanks. Have the lore people scanned the in game QR code on the m11 smg bundle skin?
Yes, currently and since the release of it. It seems like the so called “CNS” took over, Holtow is our ingame sponsored insurance company.. And thats their website it goes to. But it’s “hacked”
Ahh ok so that’s why there’s those white glitches on the maps in game rn too?
Yes, CNS is currently only from theorizing the “Central Nervous System” fighting back the prison we’re locked in The Finals thats from what i can read taking place in around year 2075-2100. Kinda like Ready Player One vibe, it seems like CNS is trynna tell us something. Maps “glitching” and the billboards grtting hacked
Sadly i haven’t seen anyone taking their time to do it, but from what i’ve heard. Theres something up with these glitches around the different maps. And there should be a pattern to it, what will it show? Still i can’t tell 😃
Alright thanks so much! Really been wanting to know more abt the lore, love this kinda stuff!
No worries! Hopefully we’ll get much more info the upcoming days, specially going into Season 2🧠🤝🏽
Oh yeah hopefully!
Hopefully today at Xbox event
correct! If we’re lucky they’ll take the chance to give us some more meat on the bone. Though i could imagine them waiting maybe up until last 2-3 days of the seasons, since they’ve spent millions from what i can hear on advertisement for ss2✍️
Why is there some black métal sometimes when loading Vegas Map 💀
Did that photo just get discovered ?
Looks like it would be another medium weapon, lol i wonder since every class has an explosive weapon (other than light), maybe us lights will get an explosive bow?
an hour ago or so. On CNS reddit
Sigma

I don't know if this has been discussed, or that I'm trying to find things. But has anyone considered the "community event" to be a scheme of CNS trying to overload the system? Which might explain why more and more glitches are suddenly appearing? Some sort of DDOS?
Yeah I found that too. Leaning towards VHS-2
tf is CNS
Central Nervous System, the ahcker group that has been disrupting the Finals
We're not sure about the full name tho... CNS isn’t confirmed to be Central Nervous System, that still remains a theory only eyed by Rob
But yes everything else is correct
Could CNS be the group fighting ARC in ARC raiders?
Imo I think cns are the good guys
The ARC website also has a lady with an outfit with colors very similar to Ospuze (Yellow/black).
Yea after digging into ARC more CNS being good makes since if its all in universe.
What are the % of the chance that arc riders and the finals is single universe?
mmm...check out some of the numbers on some of the cosmetics between the games, too. look a little familiar?
but hey, the easter egg people prolly don't want to hear about that, huh?
That’s what I’m saying. Also her boots are almost the same model as in the finals. I kinda find it odd to that the career rewards are all color variants of yellow/black. Just Like her outfit. Yea I didn’t expect that kinda of response, but my bad for thinking it was EE related. lol
we'll see if they can figure it out on their own, but I've been saying since open beta that nama and moolah are ARC overlords in VR disguise.
here it is: #🥚┇off-topic message
No doubt I love that idea! And just noticed that the text on ARC website just says “Enlist. Resist.” And what is CNS doing? Enlisting/trying to make us resist.
yeah, i'd like to speculate more, but I was on the arc alpha last year and still under NDA.
but we're in
mode
I will say this: if you think you'd like an extraction shooter, wishlist the game on steam.
Aha no worries glad we could get this far and you helped me figure out something’s that obviously wasn’t in the EE area. Wish I was able to play test it from the recent stuff I have heard looks really awesome and if the finals is this mind blowing can’t imagine what it’ll be like. Def on my wish list. Thanks 🫡
you got it
Is the sponsee website still glitching/ has it got worse
Still seems to be the same
maybe we get some info releated to the connection with arc raiders somewhere mid season 2
flatline to light pls
Volpe is anti virus stuff right?
No Volpe is the creator of the VR tech to run The Finals, You Wouldn’t Be Here Without Us
Holtow is a digital item security company, like insurance kinda so I can see the mix up, digitally insured, virtually secured
Gotcha, ty
What does Holtow even cover? Why is there insurance?
Theft of data, hacking etc
(I guess)
Guys, what does Isuel-t do? Are they making Like Shoes? Because I saw their Ad in the Arenas!
(Thats also a Sponsor)
Korean clothing line
who's the dopey sounding announcer that talks when some stuff happens in the map? not june or scotty, it's like the voice is coming from within the matches in the distance. never seen anyone mention it
well, that’s because he is just referred as The Announcer and we don’t know much about him except what we have on the Wiki
That's all we got rn: https://the-finals.fandom.com/wiki/The_Announcer
I think it's worth noting that The Announcer seems to be voiced by a human VA and NOT Elevenlabs. He doesn't make the same weird inflection errors and accomplishes those hammed-up deliveries that June and Scotty regularly fail. May just be that it's harder to hear the AI flubs in his lines though. If I'm right, that would mean the commentators we hear could be AIs in-universe, deliberately drawn in contrast to the only human voice.
Yes that could be possible
New lore?
Nice
hi there, did you find anything interesting during last couple days?
use the real wiki 🥲 https://www.thefinals.wiki/
Is there any new info on CNS ?
There's lore?????
Ah mb, brain doesn't work past midnight
Who thinks June is innocent?
fascinating stuff. I saw a video about how the game is a marketing tool for their other game too
I GUARANTEE YOU ARC RAIDERS IS IN THE SAME UNIVERSE
It would make a lot of sense. Maybe the raiders play the finals in their free time?
Probably to escape the hellish reality they live in
I bet it's more like the fucking robots ate people and are Matrix-ing them
forcing them to compete, stealing their souls and making AIs out of them
and that's how they got like, Scotty
Scotty, a past contestant, obviously an AI, so how was he a past contestant?
Scotty is not "obviously" an AI. We don’t know that
Why would be an AI?
out of universe he is but obviously since we’re talking in universe that’s just a theory… A Game The- man it doesn’t hit anymore 😢
What ai did they use for scotty and junes voices?
Actual voice actors that trained the ai
We did it guys
what is the nama tama lore in this game?!?!
main mascotte of the game
Ohh
lol
-levels
real life lore 😔
(No lore or EE, just the reality, It costs money to make games, hehe)
Pretty confusing when he writes "CNS loves the game" and right after it "No lore"
It was a dark and gloomy day when... Oh wait wrong comment