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the model is absolutely broken
turets need to be nerfed
ya but ranked ain't fun anymore š
@past girder exactly. Tripple Model defib gang
Because of triple medium meta
@rough storm I think they should buff glitch grenade and make it disrupt revive from the defib
You're right. Buff heavy.
I think you didn't understand me, everyone will have long ass queue times if you divide the queues up into party and soloq. It will get better for solo queueing people that are right in the middle of the bell curve of ranked, anyone in team or above and below that will have to wait really long. And btw, just by chance I know a few of the people in your screenshot and they are solo queueing, so you point actually isn't about teams vs solo, it's about ranks being unfairly put into the same match, you know why that is? Because the player base is to small, dividing the queues would only make it worse.
that's a lie. Diving players among party size will increase it x2-2.5 times at max which is not "long" for 95% playerbase. Plat-diamons would have more sense to play tournaments of 4 teams if search time and matching with same skilled opponents is the problem
nerf model to 108 damage and only do soft ranked resets between seasons now that the ranked system is good. hard resets will ruin comp integrity
@thorny trout its been meta since the end of season 2 bro
i dont believe the model is too strong tbh this is js recency bias. its only hard meta rn bc everything else got a lot weaker. a nerf like 108 damage guts it and leaves it unusable imo
Are the servers intentionally slow to avoid too high of a skill ceiling?
They will not keep up with fast game play even on fiber internet.
Constantly dropping items after flicking to pick them up.
Switching gadgets directly after using one and it will switch back to main weapon a split second later without any other input.
Being shot and killed with enemies facing the other way the entire time.
no, the model is meta because specifically the fcar got nerfed and because it gets rid of mediums cqc weakness entirely. its incredibly poorly designed and ruins high elo. it undoubtedly needs a nerf
this shouldnt be okay tbh for balancing
Cuz a lot has been balanced. Almost everything BUT the model. SO guess what the most logical next step is and has been for a while now? To nerf that goddamn Model like people have been informing embark since the end of Season 3
I have had so much input delay recently, and the game just outright not reading my inputs
when i play against gold & with bronces i dont think i should win 1k max :/ its terrible balance
Hallo here's another 2/3 thing very annoying that worth a polish (or a remove from the game),
I mean thing that aren't in the flow of a match IMO, things that I feels as odd:
- Being killed by L with optical mimetic. They aren't visible, just appearing from a corner for a cheap kill, which is most of the time useless, and far from the action.
- H sprites are running at the same speed of L (!)
I saw this in a replay, and I understood why they catch you with the flamethrower. It's absurd, but not consistend as in other moments they are slower... - H class is still sort of OP, they are able to absorb too many bullet in the torso. I gradually started to aim lower (not full head aiming) as I feel the game is not correctly detecting the hitbox of the head.
But there's good:
- The M class is sort of balanced and polished. That said the CL40 grenade launcher needs a strong nerf.
- the L class is almost ok but they probably need a bit more stamina so you don't die (as a L) for random explosion, or explosives launched non look by others.
Good work
I want the finals developers to work on a support for mouse and keyboard on ps5
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
put this in feedback
not sure what is worse, the broken dumb respawn system or all the cheaters going galore atm
this could easily turn into abusing it to avoid qing with higher ranks
Why am I jumping through walls and roofs ??
havent been able to play since the start of s4, my game crashes everytime I load in
These challenges like "interrupt enemies stealing cashout" are atrocious and they dont even count every time.
turets need to ne nerfed
https://imgur.com/a/0rLoOy1 (Nice game)
PLEASE add a butterfly knife skin to the dagger š„ŗ
In a game where every single person is using the model..... super fun
heavy gl goofy skins pls, example tshirt cannon
HOW DID YOU FUCK UP THE SPAWNS. AGAIN. there is no 'logic' being applied here, not by anyone actually playing, wont beleive it
- add crossplay only ps5/xbox boring play vs pc cheater
- no SBMM in quikplay
Add another keybind for vaulting obstacles, and F to interact with ladders. No more auto vault / climbing ladders.
This is basic and needs to be added ASAP, thanks.
The dual blades have no sticking power nor damage, they got nothing
'and leaves it unusable imo'
BRUH š it would still 2 hit lights and 3 hit mediums like it does now, it would only higher the skill ceiling a TINY bit. So guess what, maybe learn to play some other weapons then, in stead of tryna keep a must-use weapon in the game that pulls the fun right out of it. Not only does it need a slight damage nerf, the spread has to be fixed to lower the range on the damn thing.
It's a freaking sniper that does more damage than the RPG right now. What are we even arguing about.
Rankeds basically became Model vs Model matches, who first engages wins. It became +50% luck based and forces you to play a weapon that's just faceroll
Iām just trying to play a fun match of power shift why do I keep getting put into a lobby of the most overanked players ever (Iām bronze rank)
If you spawn during a revive it gets bugged out and "waiting for revive" will stay there for the whole round
uhhh servers just crashed
If the spread were tightened and it was allowed to stay as the "mid range shotgun" in conjunction with the damage nerf it would still be good. Just not oppressive anymore.
requiring an extra shot for light and a quick melee for medium and heavy would not make the weapon unusable
@round hornet is right
keep in mind before major nerfs the model was not up there i get the sense when it gets nerfed it wont be present at all in ranked again. im not in a high rank so i cant speak to its efficacy up there n i might be speaking out of turn its js my outlook from my rank
not sure whats worse, the cheaters, the netcode, the hitreg or the respawn system
That's it, man.. Just using the model until it's nerfed... If can't beat em', join em'. Sucks cause I like to switch it up, but running into triple M, model squads gives me too strong of fomo. Especially when I just switched for a couple games and dropped 10+. Now I feel dumb for ever using anything else.
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No you are right the model is only seeing the light of day because all other weapons are nerfed.
The thought process at the moment is that āif we hold the hands of players complaining about every weapon they get killed by, the game will be balanced. ā
Ignoring the fact that to be good at something you actually have to try.
Granted some weapons were busted and deserved a nerf, but now you spend more time fighting the weaponās quirks than you do the enemy.
Embark fix your game, fans are not being calculated correctly, or you made this the grindiest s**t I've ever seen.
Please Fix the lag embark I love your game but this is just to much

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
the model was the 2nd best weapon on medium since launch. only beaten out by the fcar which was nerfed in patch 2.6. Since then, it has been the best weapon on medium even competing directly with the pike. It completely overshadows the other weapons on the class while also getting rid of the intended weakness in cqc of a full support build. It has dominated high elo for around half a year now and is inherently unhealthy for the game in it's current state
Kyoto on Xbox series s has like 2 frames after last update. Its such a pain in the A**
Should i turn off in world crooshair ?
ENEMIES USING GOO GUN TO HIDE TROPHY ON A PILE OF GOO SHOULD BE DEEMED AN EXPLOIT !!!
Any game mode is unplayable every match I load into I just get stomped by an entire team of diamond or emerald players and immediately get rushed into our spawn causing a team wipe over and over and over again, the matchmaking in this season is the worst ive ever seen
Ranked matchmaking needs a big tune, new players jump in and plays with gold/plat/diamond... and btw the cant shoot after reloading bug is still in the game, just cost a big -rs
revert the v9s
Pyro grenade counter
What if the alien abduction beams in the "alien invasion" event functioned the same as the gravity cube does towards players?
You need to deal damage to at least one contestant.
great game, 150 damage frags
@cursive creek
frags do 149 damage. are you fucking braindead?
wondering if anyone else is getting this glitch.. i accidentally coined respawn while someone began to revive me. then after every other time i was downed, i would have the "getting revived" indicator on my screen, though no one was actively reviving. it would remain there for the rest of the game but would reset when entering a new game or round. definitely a small glitch, not too bothersome
ive had this but not known why its happening, thanks!
Is the damage wrong? Have you been blown up by a frag? And if so, is the impact soft like marshmellows and deals no damage?
nerf model1887
nerf model and pike
please embark change the spot mechanic, i dont want to spot ziplines anymore instead of enemies
Model was meta end of S2, was only temporarily not meta in TA because of hp limits, but became meta again when hp changed. Other than that it's been meta since s2
uhhh like nerf fcar or something idk and like buff pike
glitch barrels/glitch nades* make cashbox carriers drop the cash box when thrown at them, so.. why aren't they also able to interupt people capturing a cash point?
The medium meta is the worst thing in this game. Just defib + heal everytime. Its so broken and makes the game so boring... shouldnt even be in the game. Remove and ur game will be so much more fun to play lol
how do I fix the fucking map not showing properly when something is destroyed it still show normal walls for me
||@stray remnant|| if thats you with the aimbot in Cash Out, I was on your OWN team when we saw you hacking. Just saying. Be better, be natural. even with all that, we didnt win, you're too busy chasing hidden players buddy with no recon. You just knew. You snap and use the shotgun with headshots and we were upset...even being our YOUR TEAM. People like you ruin the game for everyone.
give heavy an extra 50 health
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You guys need to review your word filter for in game names. The amount of racist, sexually explicit or straight up disturbing names in this game is INSANE
easy defib nerf: 20% more recharge time, 33% longer physical charge time (the little rubbing together animation) and remove 1/3 defib charge upon being revived to prevent chain defibs
PS5: fix environment destruction on client side. This is very frustrating 
holy shit the respawn system is so faking bad in this game rn
please fire your balance team
Should i turn off in world crooshair ?
Please nerf the M11 - itās way too strong .
This... also.. make a rule.. only max two sizes per team.. stop the 3 medium revive teams..
SBMM needs some reworks, im currently around 5k on the ranked leaderboard, as are my team , but we are being queued against TWO teams that are all top 50 in the leaderboard?? like where are the other diamonds for them to fight
shotguns / pike arent meta (world tour btw)
4.0 broke cloak
- Scope magnification allows you to very easily see cloak
- Standing still cloak became significantly easier to see
- Cloak is overall easier to see now
None of these changes were mentioned in patch notes
These changes have been verified through testing and comparison to old footage
These changes were also noticed by many players prior to testing
It is possible that some of these changes (especially the scope one) is due to new 4.0 shaders fucking up cloak)
NERF MEDIUMS PLEASE
id like to offer an update, i previously made a statement on this chat that tje model was not broken. i proceeded to use it in every game i played tonight as some sort of test, ive never been so wrong i actively ruined multiple peoples day just by using this thing its so busted. i end this with an apology to all those who saw my prior defenseš
Cloaking and taser is already unfair enough so thats ok if we can see cloak in bright areas
We were second but we were knocked out of the tournament by pink who had 1. fewer kills and 2. had less cash during the entire match than us? Killed someone at the last second to get to 36k
bro must've never heard of goo
we are still getting stuck in loading screen embark!!! old ass bug jeez
The amount of times that I only get part of my swing damage on a light is too damn high with the dual blades
Charge and Slam needs a rework. Here I play as light, I have taken 25 damage to a turret while playing outside of the main room, but remaining in effective range for the M26 Matter. This heavy kills me because he can go through the wall and instantaneously deal 130 damage. There was no counter play, no positioning that can prepare you for 130 instant damage and if you arenāt running mobility, even more damage after that from the slam.
If there are any other Medium mains in the chat, do you feel like you have to bring defibs every game? Like, I wanna try out new gadgets and loadouts, but defibs are just so good that they've become a must-pick
plz make interact, equip weapon and reload, pick up object the same button because when iām trying to equip my weapon and iām standing next to a zipline it will hook on the zipline instead of equipping my weapon
Please bring Naruto clothing and weapons to the game!
Buff model so it shoots through walls with nuclear heat seeking missiles and permanently heals you +69420 every second
nice game, cash is stuck under ground on kyoto
@torpid sky @stray rampart
For the in-game feedback there should be a negative selection of:
Enemy teams had zero team composition variety and stacked Mediums
what, I would never use any aimbot and doubt I played with you since I play in a 3 man squad with my friends, I think you got me confused buddy. I dare you to show me any evidence of me hacking. a gazillion dollars
we need a bost to when getting revived like 2s of inmortality
Thereās like a thousand ways to instakill a light and they are no different feom your example
Nerf the model and Pike or change the name of the game to The Mediums. I will accept either.
Dear Embark Team,
I have been playing your game since Season 1, including during the open beta phase, and Iāve spent an enormous amount of time in it. I reached Diamond in Seasons 1, 2, and 3, and in the current Season 4, Iām at Platinum rank.
With that in mind, Iād like to share my thoughts on the current state of Season 4. My main issue is the mandatory crossplay in ranked mode. Why, as a console player, am I required to play against PC players if I want to compete in ranked matches?
I donāt want to constantly suspect other players of cheating or using unfair advantages. I simply want to play with other console players who use the same equipment as I do, with the same limitations like 60 FPS. How is it fair when Iām matched against players with higher FPS and mouse-and-keyboard setups, and then this is called a level playing field where everything is based purely on skill?
Please give us the option to limit crossplay to consoles only, for example, between Xbox and PlayStation. I donāt want to play against PC players. Iāve already tried turning off crossplay, but this results in waiting over an hour for a match with no success.
Moreover, right now Iām searching for a match with crossplay disabled. Iām at Platinum rank with 36,000 points, and Iāve been waiting for 15 minutes. Iām beginning to think Iāll never find a game. I just donāt understand why you equate console players with PC players. In the earlier seasons, like Season 1 and 2, this wasnāt the case. Now, on the latest subreddit, youāve even mentioned adding support for mouse and keyboard on consoles. Tell me ā WHY?!
Additionally, Iād like to see current statistics on third-party encounters. The new respawn system is terrible ā Iāve never seen such a sharp increase in third-party interactions before. I donāt understand how this mode was reworked if the main problem it had hasnāt been solved and has actually gotten worse.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Can we please take time to fix the moving platforms, itās so glitchy and annoying
I have a better idea, why don't we delete heavy and medium from the game?
sounds like a good time to main grapple
embark yes, i get same thing
Someone might suggest, "Donāt play ranked, just play WT." But Iāve already completed WT, reaching the highest rank, Emerald 1, and thereās nothing left for me to do in that mode. That leaves ranked mode as the only option. I want to highlight that in WT, finding a game with crossplay disabled is not an issue at all; matches are consistently found there.
i think it just needs to do less damage on the first hit, like maybe 100 damage and 50 on consecutive hits with the charge (not the slam)
I personally think it should ramp up (similarly to how the slam needs ramp up to deal the most damage), starting at a low damage, minimum of 40 but increasing over time for consecutive hits.
But I want to mostly leave the balancing to Embark
Give light explosion upon touching another player and make them in the size of an atom and 50x faster and have 10hp
Be able to view other people's statistics just like you can in other games. The data is there. Just gotta add a option for viewing for others.
Please add a grenade indicator ā¤ļø (There is no way to see a frag nade, specially if its in dark ground because it blends with it)
Jesus fucking Christ take Seoul out of the map rotation until itās fixed
is it just me or are there like more cheaters than normal?
While not nearly as accomplished as you I do still have a fair amount of hours logged since the open beta (somewhere around 1300 on PC and PS5 combined) but I wholeheartedly agree with your feedback on ranked match making taking forever without crossplay enabled. It definitely needs to be fixed asap. I currently stopped playing the game entirely because of this exact reason.
I do, however, think keyboard+mouse support on consoles is a very good thing (if it ever happens...) as it simply gives players more options on how to play the game. But, and this is a big but, it should ONLY be implemented alongside input based match making and aim assist completely disabled while using keyboard+mouse.
On a side-note: Embark, please fix the bug that enables PC players to have aim assist enabled for keyboard+mouse input while having a controller connected, it's simply cheating.
Give us input based matchmaking, i am tired of getting "aimlocked"
Inventing aimassist was the biggest crime in FPS history
make special matchmaking or unranked players because we suck hard with them
NERF THE MODEL!!!!!!!
I don't think crossplay off should be a thing, atleast for ranked. It dilutes the matchmaking pool, meaning the game can't fairly match players because of it
sKiLl iSsUe, damn you're so right!!!
That's why 6/10 players play CL or model. We found the Model player bois
Nerff model
Just give as choice if we want play vs PC, before( in season 1 and 2) if we turn crossplay on we play only vs console, psn and Xbox. But now we donāt get choice, we play also vs PC players
im stealing this lmao
We found one more skill issue guys, go improve your movement before you cry here
ABSOLUTELY NOT
Listen In Stereo emote should play the drop part of Here We Go from the OST 
The end of round song during the last 20 seconds of a match is too quiet
Please make it louder
https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/iuZ37MktMbe3PxPog?invite=cr-MSxBeHgsMjI4MTc2NDE2LA Just to reinforce your point
RPG Fantasy Outfits
Orcish
Elven
Dwarven (ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE!)
Basic Bitch Human Knight / Paladin Armor
Would be pretty dope to have like a medieval map (think DeGroot Keep from Team Fortress 2)
Featuring a big castle and a village surrounding it
camper opinion vs proplayer opinion
Defib cycling REALLY needs to be fixed. Prolongs fights way too much, and makes MMM too valuable
leaving in powershift should be punishable
anyone elses world tour asia not popping?
Please im begging you from the small corner at the riot shield kiddie table with a population of 3 users...
Fix the Continuous Burn bug, its been here since beta and is the reason why Riot shield mains have an irrational fear of fire.
For whatever reason, random or otherwise, fire damage can cause an RS main to burst into a screen blinding inferno, and this will proceed until you die there is no way from what I've tried or heard that allows you to survive it.
great team spawning algorithm great job devs! enemy teams spawns 20m from cashout two times!
Can you FUCKING FIX SBMM
deserved for being a riot shield player š (just kidding)
gotta love losing all of my progress for the day because ranked said "Oh you got 3rd twice today and barely got 800 RS out of 3 hours? here let me fix that for you!"
Then proceeds to place me into 3 games with 50K+ Diamonds as a plate 3 with 33K... What the Fuck guys.
@john embark can we get a brand new balancing team please???š
someone explain to me why sniper is hit-scan at at all, and why it isn't slow to equip/fire at close range like an actual sniper rifle would be. such a dumb mechanic.
PLEASE GIVE ARROW INDICATOR FOR FRAG GRENADAS THANKS
The season 4 update made it not hitscan past 40 meters and itās hitscan under 40 meters because bullets move fast obviously. itās quick to equip/fire because itās a lighter rifle, not a rifle like an awp or .50 bmg
I know I was being sarcastic
why do you hate casuals
this game clearly struggles to appeal to casuals
It absolutely should not be. It's a non-critical mode and considering that D/C's are common right now and there is no reconnect feature to unranked modes, it's not unheard of that a player get's D/C'ed from a lobby of their friends, and everyone needs to be abhle to freely D/C to get back with their friends.
This complaint isn't even exclusive to casuals, some of the best players out there want such a simple QoL feature to exist cuz getting 149/150'd out of nowhere isn't really cool.
Thankfully, your suggestion will never happen, 100%
there is no reason that this lobby should ever exist, and what's crazier still is that the diamonds were deadset on griefing us as hard as possible. literally ratting past the other teams to run in and grief us
Lack of players who play ranked , in World Tour i find a battle within 3 min max, ranked sometimes 15 minutes to find a match @rough storm i m diamond ranked amd emrlad word tour . I can invite you as a prove
Please review the fan acquisition system. It is very slow and mathematically playing casually does not reach the goal.
Big words 0 arguments, stop making a fool of yourself. You're talking to diamonds here so your words have 0 meaning
Make it so engimo signees spawn with 100 health and only get to use the 93r
How about more 5 man team modes
https://youtu.be/ZZGyrtwP48c The balancing of medium is a heavily debated topic. Here's my (objectively right) opinion on how to fix it (not self promo, not monetized, just tired of typing essays about it here)
Diamond player last season; just placed plat 1 after coming back to the game. Is there a reason why it takes 30 mins to find a match? I play console and know there arenāt many console players that play exclusively with cross play disabled. However, I play with cross play on, solo, duos, or a squad sometimes, wait time is still extremely long. Is this game dying or is it the new ranking system in place?
So model nerf. Easily defib spam and heal spam is still disgusting. For a game centered around high skill the meta is lacking. I do hate the light sword but gotta give them something once in awhile.
Remove Seoul from matchmaking until the Destruction bug is gone
fix now.
the light's pistols V9S feels quite overpowered. was a crazy effective range a long distance compared to R.357 is really annoying how strong it is..
Is it on only on Seoul? It literally was the reason we lost a ranked game
This has been a common bug during this patch. The devs are aware of this. 
Because they will complain about dying to weapons thatās already difficult to get kills with.
Im not sure but i think this is the same guy that cried about dying to grenades, granted 149 is kinda of crazy but that must mean it was a PERFECTLY PLACED nade, or he was camping in corner. He wants an indicator to tell him to move are you serious? They increase the size of the grenades and added a visual spark and trail to see it.
It should be possible to type ": h y p e : " in chat and have it play your character's pump-up soundbyte.
Would also be great to have the ability to access gesture / emote wheels from group lobby.
Why am I forced to close and relaunch just to connect to next match
This guy who create tuis video is more stupid than you trent
Please, that's actually impossible. No one is more stupid than @upper citrus
yes please let me waste my 30 minute cooldown to argue with people on feedback channel without giving any feedback or suggestions, go to #š£āweapons-gadgets or some shit if you want to do real arguing (I'm sure you don't tho)
You are inclined to your opinion :)
Although you havenāt stated your reasoning? Do you have any arguments against the video? Or just āthis is stupidā
Also, arenāt you the guy who complains about sword?
guy who complains about light whole loadout
Please ban teamers in ranked!!! Every time I queue I get diamond 3 stacks that help each other steal cashouts & not shoot each other at all
Honestly i feel like you guys should add another report button to report players for leaving the games. Like if someone leaves the game within the first round cause they didnāt get the cashout. or if they quit the game cause theyāre crybabies
who the hell makes it so that you cant skip a tutorial???
Fix your game. I don't know if it's been acknowledged but it's ridiculous that Seoul or whatever that map is, is literally un playable. People walking through walls and solid surfaces. Not able to interact with the cash out. Trying to walk up stairs and simply falling THROUGH the floor. Like that's ridiculous.
It makes everyone think youāre really cool if you arenāt a casual on a video game for fake internet points. You should try it out.
people that want you to learn how a game works
@coral turtle please dont stroke his ego more than he already does man
Bring to me every modell player i wipe his head with the m11 easy, so stop crying like babies. One taser and shoot with m11 bye bye model player. @upper citrus if i dash the medium with his modell can only suck my balls.
Nerf tutorial
nerf tutorial
Heās not asking why thereās a tutorial
all it does is hurt the player count which makes the game die sooner i dont get it
this video is really and evidance of aimbot bro check min 4:30 nice gg
Since the launch of season 4 it has been nearly impossible to get a ranked match with crossplay off on PlayStation once you hit platinum. This was not the case for season 1 or 2. Will there be tweaks made to the ranked system this season or are you just out of luck if you donāt want to play against pc players
this game is to toxic cant even play if you dont have a good pc or a good console
This game has serious server issues that need ironed out. been like this since S1.
I'm currently stuck in a 20-minute queue on PS5 with crossplay turned off in platinum ranked because I just encountered PC Diamond 3 stacks boosting/teaming in ranked. This is so frustrating. At the very least, crossplay should only be allowed between consoles unless you're in a party with someone on PC.
assuming you hit every shot with the m11, the ttk on a medium would be .9 seconds, the exact ttk it takes for a medium to kill a light with the model, except for the medium only needs ~60% accuracy, can jump without getting in air spread, has full movement, full hipfire accuracy, the ability to instant kill you with 1 shot + quick melee, and can take cover between shots due to burst damage.
If you are killing model players with the m11, good for you. But respectfully, you are not fighting against good players. Also, a weapon being countered by another weapon does not mean its balanced.
No idea why you're being so toxic about it though. It's just a conversation about game balance. Nothing to be rude about :)
Embark, please take all the money I have spent on skins and buy yourselves a clue on how to weapon balance. Sword Dash has no place in this game, at least in ranked. They don't need to aim or control recoil or reload. It's a bullshit mechanic in a competitive "shooter".
Fuck ur model shotgun
It needs a nerf
i didnt say why is there a tutorial i said why isnt there a skip option for players who already have experience with the game
Nerf sword man smh
Heavy nerfs need to be reverted. hardly anyone wants to even play the class because youre getting destroyed by majority of lights arsenal.
He is literally saying the model needs a nerf. It's even in his name
nerf sword
let players have the option to not play with lights because i need actual teammates that know how to play the game properly and that dont ride the short bus to school
You habe the ability as light names evasive dash , dash and shoot bye bye modell player @clear hemlock bring me a fucking modell players i show you
Do you have leat fingies. Bro I think your fingies are leat
Yeah Iām in a group with most of the people who were top 500 seasons 1 and 2 on PlayStation and all of us that still play have the same issue it is impossible to get a game unless you turn it on and then you just end up playing lycommit or balise and praying for second place
Whatever yall did in the matter of two daysā¦.bronze, silver, or even gold rank players SHOULD NOT be playing against Emerald and Ruby players. Like, wtf! My wife and I thoroughly enjoys this game but with this happening across all game modesā¦.NO! Fix it or we out!
The map with bamboo forest sucks for the team that has to attack the platform when it goes through the bamboo
Dash is nearly unused entirely in higher elo because decent players can just track dash. Dash is actually regarded as one of the worst specials in the game by good players because of this. The counter to a weapon should never be relying on them missing. Thatās poor balancing
And again, even if it wasnāt bad and actually countered the model, that doesnāt make the model balanced. That just means thereās 1 item based counter. Guns and classes are meant to have natural counterplay that isnāt dependent on a specific loadout. And most do.
The model has been the meta for 6 months now. Even if wasnāt op (it is) then it would still be time for a shake up in the meta.
Every time lycomit or balise is in the lobby the other team rage quits ffsšš
Tfmr0002 error code. Game is up to date bruh wth
rush into them with M26 & dash, dash to their front side and back side causing them to 180 - still get dumpstered with 121 + 121; bc of 150HJP
we all hate playing against 3 M or 3 L or 3 H so why dont we have 1 of every different class in 3v3 game modes, it would make the game feel smoother since a lot of complaints are all about things not being balance when on paper they are, everything has a counter and having it like this can change so much. whenever you play with 2 L as a H or M they wont be running of 1 v 3 a whole team. and there wouldn't be 3 healing beams or 3 turrets on destroying L players, and we wont have 3 H running around destroying everything,
would be nice to see a game mode like this but let me know what you guys think.
Why is this season so buggy? This season has been buggy since the start of launched and itās just sad. The other seasons since release did not have any issues but somehow this season does? Like explain why i can literally walk through walls, see a staircase and when i try to walk up on itās somehow not there and i just fall off. Like on seoul with the bridge i literally fell off the map cause when i climbed on top of it i glitched through it and just fell off the map. Please give out a update on this situation or patch these glitches or bugs its so unplayable
You are not top 500 if u play crossplay off
fr bro
yeah wasnāt able to find games in gold either :/ S3 was really good about this, not sure what changed
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
make pike projectile btw
The sporty spirit badge cosmetics are way too far away from the character. They are floating off the character and make it look terrible when compared to other badges like the chisel chum.
This doesn't solve the problems with pike. It should dominate at long, but get weaker as ranges close in instead of being good at every distance sans hipfire.
The sniper projectile change was terrible and never should have happened.
NEED
POWER SHIFT
RANKED
^ please
Aināt no way big dog is complaining about lights. Mediums are running the show rn
HHH and LLL are actually very balanced comps. very strong in the areas they specialize in and very weak everywhere else. the only issue with MMM is the pike and the model. nerf those and every triple stack comp is balanced :)
@rocky plover my original point stands, heavy is basically ground meat, nerfing the shield was also a heavy hit to their kit
fix ur stuff, the freaking goo barrel bouncing on the ground is getting mad stupid, it costed me a lot of games
Same with Mediums, 3 half of across maps shots with model and you're dead as heavy
Real
This gaming is genuinely has the most dogshit ranked experience you just lose because one team decides that they dont want to play against you anymore so they greif your game. This game is a dumpster fire no wonder it only has 15k concurrent players
(forgive me for the tirade)
evasive dash/grapple + stun gun + literally any weapon = free kill
but noooo
Nerf CaS
Nerf Winch
Nerf Dome Shield
Embark swore up and down that fun was their focal point over competitive gameplay but if you play qc/ps/ta your opinion means absolutely nothing, people will literally clown you instead of having a convo about what it is you're wanting to discuss.
It feels like all the changes made have been primarily for the purpose of comp, I get that light doesn't have a high pick in tournaments and stuff, but I also don't see that as a reason to give them a gadget that can incapacitate players from 25m away, a shotgun that can 2 tap any class, and an assortment of weapons that shred all classes.
Competitive players need their changes too, but fuck the game doesn't even feel fun to play casually because lights are infesting every match
Powershift ranked, when? Edit: looks like this guy above me donāt know how to play against light. And stungun is 16 Meter not 25. Typical skill issue
Thank you
can we please match people up with stats or something for WT im losing my fucking mind here getting to last round just to lose cause my two inbreed teammates are walking like they think they're the fucking terminator
Where's the Halloween stuff. Pleas Embark I need this my dad's kinda homeless, my mom can barely afford the battlepass
So real idk if I can last another week without some halloween stuff dropping š
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
4ā¦.4 is how many games Iāve lost because we canāt see when shit is destroyed and I fall through a floor. Or invisible rubble is blocking the way. Can you please do a quick hot patch for this itās so annoying
nerf glitch traps to 3m and give them a visible range. This gadget is problematic and hard meta at all levels of play. This gadget also disproportionately affects off meta loadouts
Reduce range of Stun Gun
My ID Player#4824 should have a ruby. After your second modification, my RS was not fully returned. I found that many people who played with cheaters and gained points through unfair means had their RS increased and obtained rubies, but I, a single player, did not. Is this leaderboard specially customized for cheaters? Originally, clean players could get rubies, but after the 4.3 update, cheaters got them, but clean players did not. Why?
Please don't ask me to go to player support, there is no one to reply there, it is useless, I can only seek help here @pearl kiln
Aināt no one care lmayo
Leaderboard wasnāt really fixed, they added me back to it but these cheaters/cheater boosts still top 500:
nevhly#1727 (Blatant Walls)
ASZGOH#3195 (Boosted by Cheaters)
Trent#1587 (Likes Menās Private Parts)
Rampage#2367 (defib abuse)
ShadowKnight#4953 (Blatant Walls Soft Aim)
yumin#2999 (Blatant Walls Soft Aim)
yumin#8033 (Blatant Walls Soft Aim)
Ovis#1974 (Boosted by cheaters)
Buff the XP-54 pls š
make nukes great again
you're complaining over pretty much nothing. "defib abuse"? really? using the meta is "abuse" and therefore not allowed? I mean I dislike defib as much as the next guy but complaining that someone should be taken off the leaderboard? and "blatant walls soft aim"? is there any video proof of this or are you just making it up? just because they have good aim doesn't mean they're a hacker. tbh I think you just have a massive skill issue and need to get good
I love how you didn't get that he's joking at went after his defib comment but ignored the likes men's private parts
HEY
delete kyoto
broššššš
Oh yea so we're all supposed to go play light? SMH Tell me you're silver or gold without telling me.
LMK when you reach the diamond league and get rekt by 2 models in your face cuz in high elo ppl engange TOGETHER to counter your beautiful 1v1 strategy
heavy barricade really needs a QOL pass, it still fails to deploy half the time a year in. Give it a coyote time grace period, a few frames where clicking puts it in the last valid location instead of doing nothing. In addition, hold click to place it in the first valid location. The skill factor of barricade should be putting it in a good spot, not flipping a coin on whether it works or not.
Tell me you are braindead without telling me. You can play Heavy, you have many kind of shields that you can use, you have goo gun you can use, but you and all who are complaining are braindead you dont look for something you counter with , you just come to the chat and start crying because you are braindead. @frigid galleon i play all classes depend which class i get matched with, im not only light or medium or heavy player, i play all classes. I m not a noob like you and people like you who can play only one class and complain here trying that the devs adapte the game to their gameplay
I have recorded a lot of cheaters, and when I checked the leaderboard after the 4.3 version update, I found that they all turned into rubies, but many clean players did not. Isn't this tailor-made for cheaters? @pearl kiln
My ID Player#4824 I should have had ruby. After your second modification, my RS was not fully returned. I found that many people who played with cheaters and gained points through unfair means had their RS increased and obtained rubies, but I, a single player, did not. Is this leaderboard specially customized for cheaters? Originally, clean players could get rubies, but after the 4.3 update, cheaters got them, but clean players did not. Why? Please don't ask me to go to player support, there is no one to reply there, it is useless, I can only seek help here
I can't stand the fact that after the modification cheaters get rubies and clean players get deducted
If this matter is not managed, then this ranking is specially customized for cheaters, then I will guide my friends and fans around me to stop playing this game.
These are the ones I recorded who got RS through unfair means, there are many rubies among them, but normal players didnāt get RS, is this your final leaderboards? XIYOU#6722 DX#4893 TOP_WARGOD#5992 QINLIANGQI#0653 PLUFO0#4440 SanMu#1252 RuLai#2597 MaskedOrca#3877 XIAO_XUN#4079 CHENJIUDOU#8144 dNB#3898 Demon_wupo#6184 Demon_ciqiu#3251 OSulliv#9526 BlackMushroomWK#4403 KongBai#3941 GaGa#3042 No#1772 ALLEN#3551 NIJIKAIJICHI#9270 No#1772 chenjiudou#8144
Why did so many cheaters on the above list get rubies? Why were the rubies of normal players deducted?
The finals has been having major issues on pc since the past update with the lag of the internal server, ive gone thru everything on my end and nothing i can do fixes it and it use to run smooth like butter until recently
spawns are in a very very bad spot after the change, now it's the opposite of spawning 200m away, you get 3 teams back to back on your cashout 50m away while another team across the map just gets to get theirs for free
can we make it so that one tiny ass smoke barrel doesn't completely stop a heavy their tracks, literally just died because there was a smoke barrel around a corner and got stuck on it while getting chased, how does a smoke barrel completely stop momentum
Is this chat just for people who lost there last game and want to take there anger out on the devs?
This gaming is genuinely has the most dogshit ranked experience you just lose because one team decides that they dont want to play against you anymore so they greif your game. This game is a competive dumpster fire no wonder it only has 15k concurrent players
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD REMOVE THIS CONTRACT EMBARK ITS NOT FUN AND IT MAKES ME MAD

I had one where it said eliminate 50 Opponents with headshots from over 100 meters away. Took me DAYS to do that. I had to snipe all those hits. 100m is pretty far and most matches people are closer than that so I had to literally throw matches to complete the contract.
i need M4
You're talking you can do this and that, while statistics just speak for itsself. almost half the players, especially in ranked, use model CUZ ITS OP.
And why you ask? Cuz it outdamages every gun and no gadget is gonna change that.
Mediums became the most agressive class while also carrying their advantage of best support. It's completely out of proportion.
Goo gun is HARDLY used in ranked best man, and this shield you're talking about has been nerfed to the ground. And yes, i play all classes too, but not in ranked cuz MMM is the winning meta rn.
So stop tryna belittle people and start running another weapon in stead of Model cuz its been ruining the game for a while now.
fr fr the best way to beat overpowered model defib heal ray triple M is to git gud fr
I agree with @tawny oriole . Most of the weapons including the Model are fair. I'll keep repeating before, the statements of cries are based on feeling and emotions complaining a weapon need nerf in their name. I'm guessing most of cries are from Light players and it's the coolest to play versus playing Heavy (most boring and slow), but playing Light at high rank requires game sense skill over aim mechanics. Watch the following YouTube video link of two Light players at Emerald rank going against the Season 4 meta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt059OstWSk
Watch and learn (study) that video of two Light players. You will see some Medium players with Model getting EASILY killed. Oversimplifying the game sense skill in the YouTube video, learn to flank and evade and keep distance with natural cover. You have 150 health, so do NOT front-line (face-to-face, head-on) an enemy team.
I hate lights with a passion
shouldn't be hit-scan at all. non of the weapons should. and a sniper rifle should not be the one of the most reliable things to equip and kill at short range. it's a farce.
while i'm here...do something about fucking spawn camping in powershift devs. fuck me.
There are three things I do almost everyday:
- play The Finals
- abandon at least one game that is overwhelmingly filled with lights
- abandon at least one game that has a busted dash sword light
I have muscle memory for the last two. You've never seen somebody bring up the menu, go down to "leave game", and exit so fast.
model is pretty fair but still a little overtuned in its range in my opinion: prolly needs a slight adjustment to the spread
would it be possible to add a feature where you can pick which season's soundtrack plays on the lobby?? I'm a big fan of the original songs, and It'd be awesome if I could have it play between matches :P
The range is fine. The damage is the problem, medium should not be so powerful in close quarters.
why dont all these top players just play light and easily kill the models
i cant believe the model is bringing people back to life with revive bullets. its happening way too often in my games these days
nerf light character broke
even if he had the old cloak which was hard to spot and a stun gun he would still lose 10 times out of 10 tries against model
I haven't touched light since season 3 and i had plus minus 15 kills on light each match. Light was the only class i didn't have a problem with model with. So no worries. Yes. For a good light player it's quite easy to win from 1 Model player in a 1v1 fight when both at full health. But that's not how games go.
And sadly, light has been slightly nerfed and is no longer a viable option in comparison to the potential of both M and H this season PLUS i can tryhard every model player as hard as i want, but in doing so you will ALWAYS get done by their buddies if they have a decent team. Let alone in my higher tier rankeds. Cuz yes, this is not a 1v1 game but you fight 3 people at all times. As a model hit almost kills a light on 1 shot, you only need 1-2 hits from his teammates to finish your story. So thank you for trying to insinuate that i'm a bad light player, but i'm not and i'm playig heavy and medium this season, but only cuz the meta forces me to. So ya, i would REALLY love to change this meta by nerfing the model.
What are we even discussing about really? It's clearly the model players themselves that are tryna defend their weapon cuz apparantly they can't play anything else? Else you wouldn't even be tryna win by arguments that have already been refuted so many times. We're going in circles here.
@jagged cedar foreal foreal š
Put a switch on the V9S so I can become Glocktimus Prime and remove the 93R
For everyone complaining about the model.. just use it! It's debatebly the best gun in the game. If you want it to get nerfed, just use it. Everyone is mostly using it now, the more people who continue to abuse it, it will get nerfed... That's what I'm doing. Having a good'ol time just absolutely deleting people lol Fun gun to use right now lol
@frigid galleon and @jagged cedar
Again, your statements are based on feeling and emotions. Sorry, everybody is NOT playing Model over AKM/FCAR/Pike. Stats matter. Facts matter. The Model is a fair weapons like most other weapons. Model cannot 1 shot kill a 150 health Light player and if you include melee than why are you at KISSING range after major damage from 250 health Medium player? Watch the following YouTube video link of two Light players at Emerald rank going against the Season 4 meta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt059OstWSk
Why the Model is a fair weapons like most other weapons? The Model has many cons (reload is bad, long range is bad, rate of fire is bad) than pros and the reason you are crying because don't want to admit it is an individual skill issue (for example, the enemy have good aim mechanics OR you're lacking game sense skill). Study the following link to compare all weapons: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ud7Rdl3AgMw9mmfDwW2LtDMnzZQ9IIhnqSE4ivsaMTs/edit
Goo is still the absolute most unreliable gadget in the entire game.
Why would I ever want to lay the goo in a vertical line pointing towards myself?
It should always lay the goo horizontally. LIke a wall. Like every single player wants it to be placed.
was gonna argue with u but you're NA medium main so nvm
@ocean parrot huh?
You claim the gun isnt broken and yet you have access to it! Haha, I am very smart!
I feel like some things should be swapped up, people are still using the basic weapons since season 1 and 2. I don't often see people using things like the 93R, Dual Blades, KS23, MGL32, SA1216 (nobody uses this dogshit), Spear. These weapons just aren't really viable in any firefight.
(Don't nerf the AK, FCAR, M11, and more. Just buff the weapons that aren't good so they can compete against the other ones) (Still nerf the model ā ļø )
I dont think you're playing some undiscovered meta that 10-0s model in every encounter. Model is the undisputed best weapon in the game and there is a reason it is the center of every meta right now. The video you sent is also of a WT lobby, where matchmaking is extremely basic and these light players are likely the best players in all of their lobbies.
Im speaking as someone who has mained model on medium since s1.
Please revert the changes to Data Reshaper. At the very least find a place for the glitch barrel in the previous consistent sequence. By introducing randomness you've reduced some of the versatility of the gadget. Almost no one used it, you've made it better by increasing charges, only to gimp it right after.
Are feelings and emotions the reason why MMM with double model is meta?
you wanna know why everyone hates lights? its because you prioritize making the hit reg and aim assist completely broken on weapons like the sword and backstab knife. There is hardly any skill that goes into dashing and abusing the hit reg with those weapons. All it is is infuriating. Try buffing weapons that take skill.
Also fix you dumb team spawning algo. Teams should not spawn on the cashout you are 30m away from
Hey any way we can get 1v1 or a custom games improvement so we can make 1v1ās?
you might aswell just flash me considering how absolutely blinding the flamethrower is
Ya stats matter, and i see these stats cuz i play model myself, and guess what's the only thing that can get me killed? Model.
Just stop this nonsense discussion already tryna think of arguments like 'emotions talking'. I'm not the best at all but i play plat-diamong leagues and i can objectively say It's one big lame ass Modelfest.
And again, it's all about statistics, not your emotions or ppl's subjective POV.
Now stop the cap please cuz it's people like you that make Devs think it's not necessary to nerf it and thus that force me and others to play Model till they finally nerf both damage and range.
Now to finally shush you here's some stats for ya from LAST 1-2 HOURS ALONE. More than half of the total players run Model almost EVERY game
Even the final was literally 2 models fighting vs each other, and the rest slacking behind. It has to stop or yall should rename this game 'The Models'
Can y'all please do something about Pyro Grenades infinitely burning Riot Shields?
Lmao get better goo is gaming on heavy, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o4wLEpo0HCk&t=44s&pp=ygUlVGhlIG1vc3QgaW5kZXJyYXRlZCBnYWdldCB0aGUgZmluc2xkIA%3D%3D#bottom-sheet watch Thai if you donāt inderstabd why itās so good
that doesn't change the fact that goo has bugs and need fixes
They should add grinding rails. Something like that could be pretty cool.
this is just not true, why completely nuke like a 3rd of goo's use cases coz you don't know how to aim when you throw
fuck goo barrels tho they are laughably inconsistent
there are too many skins that make it impossible too tell light and medium apart at first glance
swords are cancer
when u block someone why is not muted?'?????
Ok then, please tell me how to choose which direction the goo will be place then?
Is there a magical way to turn it 90° on command?
@mint lintel I said unreliable. I didn't say it wasn't good.
mercy just watch the video dude and stop getting so angry
no way you said model is a far weapon
I'm pretty sure hes talking about the rare instances where it will place goo in a direct line towards the player when you throw it at the floor instead of logically placing it horizontal like it should. it happens kind of a lot
New dual blades ability.
Right mouse click + left mouse click = Dash forward slash
get ready for alot of that, one of the strangest balancing teams of any FPS. cant make up their minds at all
throw it at the floor = wall
throw it at a wall = vertical line
if your really struggling with this while using goo nades you just gotta stop aiming at rocks mate
@versed hazel That only really happens with the barrels or if you are hitting rubble/rocks
more mullet colors pls (:
"rubble" š, so it's not a bug but a skill issue?
there is a bug with goo grenades and goo canisters where they will just fuck up
I had one with a goo grenade on under construction seoul like an hour ago where it happened on completely flat ground
Yes it does seem like thats what this chat is.
Rarely anything constructive.
Just people DEMANDING weapon nerfs when the game has fundamental issues that need to be addressed first.
lol... you're telling on yourself. with respect to the guys in the video this isn't high level play. there is a whole other world you're missing
I can't exactly reply and keep a conversation going seeing as this channel has such a long cooldown timer.
But as I said, it is unreliable, it doesn't matter if you throw it at the floor if there is a tiny bit of invisible rubble that it determined that it hit.
The fact that I cannot choose which way I want it is frustrating because the aim and all of the invisible rubble makes the system unreliable
you're either rage baiting, coping or literally just haven't played goo enough to know that its actually just bugged. it happens consistently with both canisters and goo grenades.
@glacial geyser - I'm pretty sure it is actually just a bug that has been around since launch. it happens occasionally even before any destruction has occurred.
Add prosthetic legs and arms for cosmetic
Can we make the gold ak reload CHA CHING sound a little louder
this is the first season where i'm actually bored of the game
my v9s was taken away from me for a "cheat issue" rather than an actual skill issue, we got a map amalgamation, honestly the only thing that piqued my interest this season was the prime time. thats it.
going into this, i thought this game would innovate more and more upon the game show aspects: replays, more gameshow oriented modes, etc. i've poured a good thousands hours into this game. but it seems you guys aren't interested in doing that, which honestly, i've lost faith in this game.
next step is quitting, though i know i'm just one out of thousands, but the point is, i'm tired of this game, and compared to other indie FPS games, it doesnt feel like there's been massive amounts of work put in conceptually since s1. the only really significant things in my memory were removals, bad buffs, and terrible nerfs.
Increase winchclaw damage to 10...
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My goo nades are level 7 well on their way to being level 8 and I never have never had it happen with the grenades, only the barrels. So either you really just don't know how goo nades work or are copiuming yourself into believing the nades do it too :p
@glacial geyser I'm all for being able to choose which way it places, you originally said to have it only place horizontally which would ruin goo nades
- PLEASE add a contract replace button, 'Headshot 25 opponents from 50m away is impossible'
- Stop fire grenades from sticking to riot shield it is unfair as there is nothing i can do to stop it
thats at the current meta things will keep changing,
yeah bro im convinced u dont play finals
There's a fair point.
I would be entirely in favour of removing the RMB under-arm throw, and just replace it with alternate fire mode
sigma
Please add a 120fps mode for ps5 without all the fancy graphics š
Specialisations -
Cloak - Buff HARD
Dash - Buff
Grapple - Balanced
Healing Beam - Balanced
Guardian Turret - Balanced Mostly
Dematerializer - Balanced
Winch Claw - Slight Nerf
Mesh Shield - Buff
Charge N Slam - Nerf
Goo Gun - Balanced
I agree with that goo barrel thing. It's so inconsistent. Goo nades on the other hand are great
I really feel like world tour progression should be based on your tournament placement, and not just if you qualify or not
You can absolutely sweat a match against other players already in emerald and get a close 5th place, but because you didn't qualify its entirely wasted time
Honestly I think it encourages going afk and disconnecting in the first round, which makes everyones experience worse, I acknowledge this would make emerald easier to get tho
really not my fault that ur a burger that doesn't know how to throw a nade š
So.. Hi everyone. I would like to request more cow related accessories please š
Of course
How tf do the 2 good light specializations need buffs but the bad one is balanced??? And how is the goo gun balanced when 0 ppl use it because the other ones are just better?
Please make the level rewards skins better. You have to devote a very hefty amount of time into leveling up a gun, and the skin that you get for max level? a black cheetah spotted skin, that you barely can even see the spots. I understand that leveling guns is more of a thing you do on the side more than anything, but it feels very unsatisfying to get a very bland and boring skin, despite all the time and effort put into it
yeah whatever, keep advocating for devs to ignore bugs so we can enjoy playing broken shit
says the guy who only has a lvl 7 mastery on the easiest gadget to level up (goo nade)
I know I am joking
Also
weapon idea
š„Auto cross for heavy class and u can climb on top of the bolts https://youtu.be/LN1j3w0zchU?si=7g8onmgiaC2Qs8Fs
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Seriously, how is the broken-ass Seoul map still in rotation. Fixed it please!
this idea might be better for light, it gives mobility, has range (and we don't want heavy to have that much range) and the heavy already has the goo gun to climb on stuff with
Chande model to Sniper Category
balanced ranked system (i'm still loosing from playing against this bullshit):
I should not be loosing fucking 400-500rs because I get placed WITH A SILVER, AGAINST PEOPLE THAT ARE DAMN NEAR DIAMONDS. YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS
next you'll be saying that not being able to place gateways off of the map is a bug š
gateways work fine
ranked system is still assā¢ļø classic embark
if the game wasnt so fun tbh nobody would play this shit with this balancing and ranked system
**Hello Devs, just a little tip, since we can add peaple into game directly woult be so helpfuyll be able to chat to them even if they are not in our party, to organize next match or something like this. WHisper system lets say. ** This is needed cuz ppl get annoy to wait some random friend finish him own game so i want to understand if he aviable for next one or u know ask something.
Nerf model, buff XP-54
make m11 deal more damage
Fan acquisition is so low and I doubt that many of us will gain the necessary fans required to gain all of the sponsor rewards.
At the moment, the only score that really matters is support score which can be achieved with a healing beam, but we get barely any score for doing anything else, and if the average fans per game is like 300 you'd have to be doing over 500 full matches to get the final reward at 160k fans.
We should be able to increase the fans we gain by gaining combat score and objective score too. In addition, I think that using sponsored cosmetics should add a multiplier to your fan score.
We fixin hit reg soon or what? I shot some bloke 3 times in a stairwell and the rounds went through his body and he didn't even get hit once, Then next game I melee some cat and it jsut phases through his body and he kills me.
Also make the FCAR great again
I don't know how many days I've been writing the same message about this bug, but today, after having to restart because I was getting these red signals (and strangely, when you reconnect to the game, they disappear), the next game luckily doesnāt have them, but then you lose a final because they come back and you can't restart. And no dev talks about it, or we only see patches for the shop, while this game is full of bugs. It's really awful. I donāt know if theyāll ever fix it, but I'm sadly getting closer to uninstalling The Finals, a game with so much potential ruined by the incompetence of its developers. Every season there's a big bug. Today it's this one. Last season, youād get stuck on the loading screen, and it took them a month to fix it. After a year, The Finals still feels like it's in its early stages ā no optimization, and just bug after bug, which only get fixed after months. I think Iāll soon move to new FPS games where bugs get fixed immediately. If they ever fix this lagging bug, maybe I'll come back to The Finals.
I think adding a contract reroll option for the cost of some of our useless VRs would be nice. Gives us something to do with them rather than dump them at the beginning of each season. Reduces player frustration for some. I hate doing the quick melee one even if it is easy enough. Seems reasonable enough.
The fire grenade ābugā is really annoying. Iām not sure if itās intended, but it doesnāt feel like it is.
I just lost 1400 RS because both my teammates left the game š š š
How exactly is this a thing???
embark: have you ever played this game yourself. i havev gone into multiple ranked games where i get queued against triple dia teams, and my temamates are gold (i am plat 4)
also have you realised how fucking broken the model 1887 is - you cant play light agianst a triple model team because you get one tapped if they all hit you - from 40 fucking metres away ITS MEANT TO BE AA SHOTGUN NOT A SNIPER
Need to find ranked matches with crossplay off on console. PCās have huge advantages and cheat. Unfair.
had to leave a rank match because im the only player on my team. then get penalized for it. very nice.
console players shouldnāt be forced to play against pc players (ranked), the hardware differences give such a huge disadvantage
When does Performance patch comes ? need it fast, cant play with 2080 ti and i9-9900k cuz everything just lags XD pls guys XD
Just a small suggestion about the triple medium:
bring the defibrillators back like they were in the first season, but remove them from gadgets and place them into a specialization
Fix Spawn Points Theyāre Too Far From The Action.Half My Game Is Spent Walking To The Cashout Zones!
I lose a thousand
if 3 people are shooting at a light, the light will die no matter the weapon. It's a bad push from the light, or a very bad luck to find themselves against a whole team by chance. But the latter is more probable, because lights usually like to push alone as if they're gods.
@stable path "Stop fire grenades from sticking to riot shield it is unfair as there is nothing i can do to stop it", you can burst a smoke canister to extinguish yourself, so maybe keep a data re-shaper with you. Yeah it's not so convenient, but I am telling you this for completeness.
make power shift money add to achievement for money (unsure if it does or not) if it does can power shift money be upped to represent time played in comparison to other modes
can i not get matched with silver teammates as a diamond please ??
@feral adder 
no
Another day of me asking the Heavy Mesh Shield to be reworked as the CD is just stupid , no one uses it anymore because its sucks - Everyone just uses Charge slam
Medium shotgun is OP
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if you have every played light (which you probably never have) then you wiwlll never understand the frustration. you are justs sitting next to the cashout, and then a triple medium team just 3 taps you with a shotgun from above you after they jumppadded up. you have no chance to do anything before you just die, from long range, to a shotgun. try playing ranaked against a triple model team who are all top 30 and you will understand
@wind meteor the point of my comment wasnt just about lights i was using it as an example - 150hp from 30m awway is still fuckking annoying for alll classes and even if you are playing pike or llh1 you just lose a midrange gunfight against a triplle heal shotgun teaam when you just shouldnt be
also landing on a roof then geting killed bt 2 invis lights isnt an argument - the point of invis is to hide and then suprise people - the point of the model 1887 is not to just spaam shots and kill people at range using a shotgun
P.S dont use the "150 rounds as a llight" as a flex it means nothing to anyone who regularly plays this game (saying this as someone who got all 3 in s2)
I have the win 150 rounds with a light achievement, so yeah I played my fair bit with light. What I'm saying is that if 3 people all decided to shoot you, you will die almost instantly, no matter what you do, especially if they are good player who can track you no matter what specialty you have. So yeah, it is frustrating, but it's also bad luck, it's not gonna happen every day. All classes can cause frustration to every other class. Imagine landing on a roof just to be obliterated by two invisible lights standing right where you landed.
I turn the crossplay off its another game dont play vs kbm and pc cheater ā¤
- add crossplay only ps5/xbox
nerf model1887
add THE FINALS in GFN ABYA plssssssssssssss
I think World Tour needs to be removed as it's splitting the cashout playerbase. I am consistently sitting in 30+ minute ranked queues on Saturday and Sunday mornings. This is the only time I am able to play the game and I literally cannot find a match.
FIX THE PORTAL GODDAMN!!!!!
nerf fkin model bastards
Charge n slam nerf (I don't want it nerfed,im just afraid it might get nerfed to the ground.): restrict sensitivity upon usage.
In modes like bank it, seems like fan acquisition is high... In WT it's lows, however in bank it, it's well above .
I dig the score multiplier idea linked to the cosmetics... That's a great one!
If 3 people are shooting at a light from far away, with any other shotgun except the model, they will take very little to none damage. Ready the actual issue.
As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.
By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.
This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 55)
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
Mesh ruined but charge n slam still untouched for the 4th season. Also model still untouched. Do you guys not play your own game?
Please fix the bug where you canāt place or shoot anymoreā¦
Things that would be lovely for ranked/wt:
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Doubled or tripled fans gain depending on where you landed in the tournament
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Give the ability for players to vote for surrendering in a match
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First place should be exact opposite of last place in terms of rewards,-1.5k RS for losing,+1.5k for winning.
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Map voting
"they nerfed defibs and added the hologram startup delay, giving proper counterplay to the defibs and allowing poor usage of defibs to be punished"
the hologram startup delay only does exactly that, delay the revive
if they get the charge off, there will be a revive
this is only effective in the big team fights you get in ranked
in a lot of situations, this changes nothing for casuals
"since MMM has risen to dominance, defib has stood out as the cause due to its annoyance factor alone"
even if your points made it "balanced"
if something gets this many complaints, despite being balanced, because its annoying, that alone should warranted a rework/nerf to lessen the frustrations
"medium is meant to (...) be weaker in cqc, this weakness specifically is what makes defib balanced"
except, defib specifically makes this downside less severe
if someone dies in close range, you are not forced to be at an even higher risk while reviving, due to forced to cqc, where reviving is more dangerous for a medium than for a heavy or light
instead, it removes that risk of a cq revive by allowing you to speed it up to less than a second
"good teams will push in after getting a pick by taking advantage of the temporary loss of a player and will be at an advantage during a team fight"
after you kill someone, you should be at an advantage during a teamfight
this is not defib specific
if anything, defib can be considered broken because of how much it reduces this possibility of being caught in unfavorable cqc
"the strong team sustain (...) of MMM is the intended strenght of the team comp"
its intended, but that doesnt mean it cant be too strong
model is a gun, is intended to kill, that doesnt mean it cant be too strong
please just fire whoever thinks that nerfing a gun KNOWING that the nerf isnt even remotely enough is a good way of balancing the game, they should be nowhere near balancing
idk why these 7 year olds sitting on their iphone 16 promax like they know what theyre talking about think theyre funny even though theyve never written something helpful in their llife
in case of friends yes, but if a random solo player disconnects then imo he should be connected back to the same lobby because it is straight up handicapping your team by leaving
Bro itās just power shift donāt take it too serious. MEANWHILE please increase the penalty for quitting in ranked or world tour because dumbfucks on my team rage quit the second they die to a stray frag or sth
@_fuck_you.#0000 fr
i think we should able to customize our respawn statues. instead of having only one statue model, or having them all tailored to the exact player model, make it so that you can base it off of any of the costume sets (it is already based on a costume set, so why not get the rest of them?)
Cant stand when the randos are allergic to coining during the first round
noob tube is still stupidly annoying
I turn the crossplay off its another game dont play vs kbm and pc cheater ā¤
- add crossplay only ps5/xbox
First of all. Read my name.
And then... :
- Nerf model damage. To strong. Can't one shot a Light at 30m.
- Nerf grenade frag. 149dmg is too much. You can't one shot 33% of your game. Or add a indicator
- Nerf PIKE. Still to op. There is no penality in hip fire. Broken.
- Nerf Deagle.
- Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower and less bullets. Just useless so.
- Reverse mesh shield nerf
- Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
- Give back the RPM on the V9S but let the damage.
- Buff Light in some way they can survive more longer instead of dying in a frame. Did you ever wonder why PIKE and DEAGLE are a prob but not the new shotgun Light ? Because no one use it because you have to be in CQC and in CQC Light die ! No one wants a Light in ranked and even in silver rank. Do something for the Light to be more META.
- Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown or add charge.
- If Hook do damage, stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
- Reduce the gap between HP class. You can't balance properly a game with so much gap between HP class.
- Nerf flamethrower range or damage.
More on the game :
- Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
- Ban cheaters-Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO INCREASE TO STOP DYING BEHIND COVER !
- Let us choose our sight at the begining of a game
- Let us go in pratice with friends !
- Delete low gravity event
- Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
- Random skin list for weapons / gadgets
- Random charm list for weapons/gadgets
- Add a TDM mode
- Add a TDM lobby when your waiting for participants
- We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad
- Let us join our friends in group, not only invite them
- Add the possibility to PM in the game
- Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.
Buff pike, buff deagle, buff cl40, nerf light 
If lights want survivability letās replace their cloaks with phase shift from titanfall 2 to give them limited invulnerability at the cost of visibility or damage to anyone during it, and give it a wind up so itās not a free get out of jail card they can just click whenever they panic
as much as I love the creative new challenges embark are taking on with their fashion... A little bit less of a breeze in the arena might be nice while I'm wearing the relaxed jeans š
remove visual recoik / fix sights
maybe add a zombie LTM for haloween then keep it permanently
Such a list is utterly useless as a feedback. You're not the balancing team manager to push your orders onto them. Before you say buff or nerf, say what is wrong, then suggest how to fix it, how to nerf it or how to buff it. Other people might have other solutions for the same problems.
Also, no one wants a selfish light in ranked, but a team-playing light is a gift to have. So maybe the light players need to work on their blood thirst control rather than their skills for eliminations. Still a light can be really vulnerable, so there's still some work to be done with the health ranges in my opinion.
When teammates leave, only people who are not apart of each others team should not lose points as people would exploit this if it was for everyone essentially giving them a free pass when playing.
"the lack of reward for closing the gap on MMM due to pike and model is why the teamcomp is so dominant, nerfing the defib isnt going to fix that issue"
these are 2 separate issues
obviously nerfing defib wont change models and pikes combat oppressiveness
these issues are not mutually exclusive, both weapons and support can be too strong at the same time
both require a nerf
"this is only going to make medium harder to balance in the future"
defib being this strong currently does exactly that
any item added will forever live in defibs shadow
unless its just as strong, in which case it will outcompete everything but defib
you were one of the few ones to warn about power creep, and yet this is ok?
once defib is nerfed, it will hopefully fall in line with all other medium gadgets and give a clear power level to strive for when adding new ones
defib is an issue in need of changing
Day 8 of asking to add an mp7 to the game
I like the direction that embark went this season in terms of changing recoil patterns at least for the casual community to make them more user accessible but now that weāre at that point I think they should just leave it alone the thing about changing recoil patterns in all cases except for smoothing them out like in the case of the Lewis being such a wild pattern after they changed it from its original pattern to combat its effectiveness that even skilled players used it less and less but in all cases with changing recoil to try and combat the effectiveness of a weapon the good players are just going to learn the new recoil pattern the only people your actually screwing are the casuals who feel like they canāt use the guns they used to anymore I understand balancing a weapons values in the sense of damage fall off, rpm , damage itself but changing recoil pattern really just frustrates your casual players who donāt want to spend the time to learn the new pattern and without adjusting the values of the gun with a short time it will preform the exact same in the hands of a skilled players
somewhat regular request to add better social features.
-why cant I easily add people on Steam?
-same with console players?
-how do I ask them "hey you free or in a stack rn?"
-how can I tell them "sry in stack"?
-would be nice to able at least be able to say "Sorry" on chat wheel
-would be nice to tell enemies "ggs" if it in fact was a gg
The only point I really agree with is your last one. Defib is better than most of the other gadgets on medium. I would not mind if it was tuned down once medium gets 1 or 2 more support oriented gadgets. Until then it doesnāt really make sense to nerf. Itās just nerfing mediums support output when itās genuinely fine right now in terms of value
Jump pad / zipline is also a must pick though and is better than defibs. But itās in the same boat, there just isnāt much that rivals its inherent value of getting people to height immediately.
Yo I just found out that you can ācanister-rideā fire canisters which brought me to the idea imagine embark would make a rocket riding feature like in couple other games, where people can travel on top of a fired rocket from a rocket launcher like the one the heavy has as a gadget.
That would open sooo many funny and cool possibilities and would fit well in the game imo
Can we have a rework on the flame for flamethrower the hitbox just doesnt hit... PLEASE DO NOT NERF FLAMETHROWER because someone asked for change
When I get a ranked teammate that leaves, especially when I solo queue, I shouldnt lose RS since I cant win since my teammate had left.
A solution for that would be fantastic, as every other ranked game I get a player that leaves for some reason.
Make game good
Also nerf model/pike and fix preformance/server issues the game for me Is unplayable right now the meta makes me wanna drink paint stripper (combined with constant stuttering and Kyoto being unplayable)
literally came here to complain about that, they added this shitty underdog system that lets your team of 2 respawn 10 seconds faster and removed being able to leave because of that. i'm on the verge of quitting this game and spending it on something else that respects my time better
give us the lost points when a reported cheater gets banned
also the point system is so bad omfg
light-main-that-doesnt-know-how-to-play-the-game-so-he-begs-for-nerfs spotted
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043171363881504911/1282791737697239182/attachment.gif
A comment from a heavy main. That's smell too much for me
Tbh Model does need reworking. To the point you'll come across gentlemen agreements not to use it in top 500
Embark needs to make what counts as "interrupting a steal" more loose because its just straight up never going to progress against more alert players
plus it just doesnt register as an interrupt half the time
yoyo
yeah people be ragequitting, i shouldnt be punished for their immaturity/poor connection
DustyFrog#8520 is a cheater boosting players and hardcore cheating aimbott wallhacks everything
yk i think if there is a cheater in a game, and you lose but he gets banned later on, you should be refunded the RS that you lost that match
Light dominance again, very nice guys...
After when lights was crying for cl-40 nerf they must be happy now...
please nerf damage, range and rpm of the pike. it is by no means fair that i get 3 shots and are dead while being able to shoot one time with the sniper. i think you need to ballance by also looking at the effort that has to be done to pull of a weapon. i hope you get the restā¦.
pls embark fix the matchmaking
With light has bow and arrow already but heavy needs it
New weapon ideaš„(fanning revolver)
Get a medium range projectile based (small wall hole destruction) slug single action revolver for light that is one tap when u aim however close range (hipfire only)u can do a 3 tap trick for it to do a 3 round burst it look really cool u can see it in YouTube https://youtube.com/shorts/Cm3Hi4rw-rk?si=jJrYVQs28mfSnGWE
Isnt that just cassidy from overwatch
Can we have a small buff for the mesh shield :
Decreased Mesh Shield cooldown from 8s to 6s if the shield is damaged when closed and 4s to 3s or 2s (you decide) if the shield is undamaged when closed
nerf sword, nerf pike, nerf model, or buff other weapons please
m11 should have less ammo or higher reload time
actually just nerf everything except what i play
Seoul is broken currently. And apparently Vegas sometimes. Destroying walls/floor randomly causes invisible holes that appear there but arenāt. Makes it nearly impossible to play it when half the building looks normal but you fall through what seems like solid floor and stairs. Has happened to me like 5 times now and cost us a ranked game because we couldnāt get to the final cashout. Not sure if just PS5 thing or affects all.
totally agree
Day 6 of asking Embark for Viking Cosmetics
Half-measure nerfs like this would be fine if it was consistent. Like i get the philosophy of not wanting to overnerf so you only implement half of it, but this is the same patch that completely fucking gutted cl40 with 4 different huge stat adjustments, so saying something like this feels like total horseshit.
So, I have been stubbornly using the spear recently to some success. There are improvements needed, but imo it doesn't require replacing the spin.
First, the reach is only 4m, not that much further than the sledgehammer. I think 5m with less slowdown while attacking would make simply sprinting away less effective. You should be able to escape via other methods, but not as easily.
Second, the current spin does three spins at minimum. Being able to cancel after one spin would probably be too strong, but making it two spins would help. You can slide into it for more range and jump to avoid getting headshot some.
Third, the basic three hit combo should two hit Light and three hit Medium. This could come with a tighter hitbox to require more accuracy to compensate. The current damage requires using a quick melee to finish off Light and Medium, completely negating the point of a spear. Also, the first swing needs to have its animation be some form of stab. The spin I don't mind, getting hit by a pole hurts, but spears aren't for slashing.
RS___C is typing
He clicky clacky on that keyboard
so, you disagree on most things
are you going to explain why and defend your standpoint, or do you want to leave it at that?
I would not mind if it was tuned down once medium gets 1 or 2 more support oriented gadgets
thing is, its breaking the game now
every patch we dont change it, its potentially ruining however many matches that would otherwise be fun
and dont forget, we already have a decent amount of support options: aps, zipline, jumppad, data reshaper, goo nade and glitch trap
many of them just never get used because defib is so much more valuable
Until then it doesnāt really make sense to nerf
it does, because it stops the frustration a literal flood of players are having with it
Itās just nerfing mediums support output when itās genuinely fine right now in terms of value
mediums support output as a whole is fine
but a majority of that is currently concentrated into 1 singular item
that is not fine
to make the game fun, it needs a nerf as soon as possible
after that we can adjust mediums support as a whole to get it back up to speed
i find the choice between movement items and other options much more balanced than between defib and the rest
on certain maps like monaco, skyway or kyoto i often dont even need them
sure, getting there fast is nice
but what it lacks in speed, something like goo nade makes up for in incredible defensive utility
a much more competitive decision to make
which is healthy and promotes experimentation and loadout variety
adding something to outcompete defib in its own purpose would need to be just as broken
which would lead to defib not being replaced, but any 3rd slot item instead
it needs competition by being lowered to the strengths of the other items
First of all. Read my name.
And then... :
- Nerf model damage. To strong. Can't one shot a Light at 30m.
- Nerf grenade frag. 149dmg is too much. You can't one shot 33% of your game. Or add a indicator
- Nerf PIKE. Still to op. There is no penality in hip fire. Broken.
- Nerf Deagle.
- Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower and less bullets. Just useless so.
- Reverse mesh shield nerf
- Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
- Give back the RPM on the V9S but let the damage.
- Buff Light in some way they can survive more longer instead of dying in a frame. Did you ever wonder why PIKE and DEAGLE are a prob but not the new shotgun Light ? Because no one use it because you have to be in CQC and in CQC Light die ! No one wants a Light in ranked and even in silver rank. Do something for the Light to be more META.
- Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown or add charge.
- If Hook do damage, stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
- Reduce the gap between HP class. You can't balance properly a game with so much gap between HP class.
- Nerf flamethrower range or damage.
More on the game :
- Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
- Ban cheaters-Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO INCREASE TO STOP DYING BEHIND COVER !
- Let us choose our sight at the begining of a game
- Let us go in pratice with friends !
- Delete low gravity event
- Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
- Random skin list for weapons / gadgets
- Random charm list for weapons/gadgets
- Add a TDM mode
- Add a TDM lobby when your waiting for participants
- We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad
- Let us join our friends in group, not only invite them
- Add the possibility to PM in the game
- Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.
Aps and data reshaper don't see use because one got gutted and the other is insanely matchup dependent.
All the others still see use. Zipline/jumpad are both insanely valuable movement and arguably better than defibrillators. Glitch traps are still used all the time and are actually overtuned. Goo grenades are used often enough, but don't even count as a support option for medium because it's an all class item.
Are defibs must picks? Yes. But so is jump pad. Medium just doesn't have enough to contest these slots. Same thing for dome shield on heavy.
Pike rpm nerf
Model range nerf/dmg nerf
Deagle range nerf
Fcar range buff and 1 extra dmg
Akm slight range and 36 bullets back
Xp damage revert nerf range
Sword canāt be combined with dash (should be a pause between the heavy sword attack and dash) and slightly nerf the dmg of heavy attack
Test out balance changes via world tour and quick play (not ranked) so we donāt have to go through another gl meta again thank you.
Charge and slam nerf overall dmg
Allow glitch nades to disrupt defibs and maybe allow sustained damage on the player using defibrillator to cancel it pls the spam is to much
We are so close to the best meta and yet some things ruin
Not related to any recent messages sword should in fact not be nerfed
Allow for different player cards, one for each loadout, or at least 1 per class.
Related to a recent message , sword should in fact be nerfed
The "interrupt a cashout steal" contract is by far the worst there is. It's completely unfun, time intensive, and should be replaced or removed. For some reason other contracts are replaced, but not this one, and I don't get it. Around 10+ tourney wins and even more games, and I have 2/10. The point is to not let the enemy get near the cashout in the first place. Can you consider changing it to kills within a certain perimeter of the cashbox?
Things that would be lovely for ranked/wt:
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Doubled or tripled fans gain depending on where you landed in the tournament
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Give the ability for players to vote for surrendering in a match
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First place should be exact opposite of last place in terms of rewards,-1.5k RS for losing,+1.5k for winning.
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Map voting (edited: Today at 18:42)
Things that would be lovely for ranked/wt: -
Doubled or tripled fans gain depending on where you landed in the tournament
-
Give the ability for players to vote for surrendering in a match
-
First place should be exact opposite of last place in terms of rewards,-1.5k RS for losing,+1.5k for winning.
-
Map voting (edited: Today at 18:43)
Things that would be lovely for ranked/wt: -
Doubled or tripled fans gain depending on where you landed in the tournament
-
Give the ability for players to vote for surrendering in a match
-
First place should be exact opposite of last place in terms of rewards,-1.5k RS for losing,+1.5k for winning.
-
Map voting
Proper charge n slam nerf:
Restrict sensitivity when active
Nerf the model and pike or change the game name to the mediums
Aps and data dont see much usage, because they dont bring much to the table compared to defib
If defib was actually balanced, there would be cases to be made for either choice depending on playstyle and gameplan
Allowing for more variety
The movement items are not nearly as much of a must pick as made out to be
Theyre strong, sure
But they can be replaced for decent trade offs and you wont be ridiculed for not using them
If anything was strong enough to actually compete with defib, it would not compete with defib
Instead, it would throw out whatever third item you have
Defib needs to get in line with mediums other items
what happened to the matchmaking man. all my teammates are fucking brain dead noobs
WHY I'M FUCKING PLAYING RANKED WITH PEOPLE AT LEVEL 11??????? WHYYYYYYYYYY FUCKING IDIOTS...YOU ARE DESTROYING YOUR GAME WIT YOUR OWN HANDS AND LITTLE BRAINS
I can elaborate later Iām just busy. But I think you and I just disagree fundamentally on defib. I donāt see defib as the annoying part. Fighting MMM running anything other than pike and model is genuinely fun imo. Itās a comp with severe strengths and weaknesses that can be taken advantage of. And defib is one of those.
I donāt see a reason to nerf mediums support output from what it is now because it keeps a healthy balance in the ranked environment. Iād much rather wait to nerf defibs until medium gets more support gadgets specifically related to sustain
I LOVE using the model! Need a cqc shotty, check, need a med range bolt action rifle, check. It's amazing
Honestly can't play the game cause it keeps crashing
Light could get an HK69 as a grenade launcher
It should be a bouncy grenade (like the ones of the MGL32) that deals 150 dmg. Considering the fact that this weapon is a single shot. It would need a fast reload and decent range as well to make it viable.
This would make it so that all archetypes have a grenade launcher as a primary weapon.
An example of a game where the HK69 appears is Urban Terror
nerf the fucking sword. It's unplayable. 5+ lights with swords in lobby ALL THE FUCKING TIME, STOP FAVORING THIS DOGSHIT CLASS
Please add a killer clown skin for Halloween event. It would look super dope for the heavy
I used to think this way. Sword is not that good. In high level play it's not even .01% players
So you're playing quick cash
@small spruce Glitch mine + model or cl-40 counters sword completely. Don't be mad at me because you can't counterplay someone using a weapon from sea of thieves.
Understand what I mean by "high level play"
I am not saying everyone has to play the game the same way. What I am saying, that if you understand statistics you would understand that the high level players will rationally use the best weapons to ensure highest likelihood of victory. By that logic and understanding, you can easily calibrate the swords overall power in the meta. It's LACK of representation shows how underpowered it is compared to other weapons. I'm not trying to make you a sweat. I am trying to explain how the sweats actually determine the theoretical value of weapons overall. Just because you don't care about them doesn't mean you understand the game better than them. I'm not claiming to be the best at this game. I lose games too. I just don't want the sword to be nerfed when it's already a bad pick
The Interrupt Opponents contract is way too annoying to do. It ain't goin up at all. lmao
im sorry do u think 99% of the player base is in high level ? stop with this " its not good in high level" stuff like everybody is play at irl tornement lv play it dosent matter what i play cause swords are ez cheese in most game modes relize when your the problem @versed cloud i never said i had problems dealing with it im saying every body aint sweating like you so stop using the "its dog in 0.1 % of play" @surreal meadow i have 129.3 hours in this game
How to get a team in a private match ,its random
whats youre main gamemode and whats your rank
"hey it doesnt matter what rank or gamemode i play, so there for its easy cheese bc i said so, even tho several elos and several gamemodes play differently". pack it up guys, <100 hours said sword is OP
fr bro, as a sword main everytime I go sword dash I get 100+ elims in one match. It's just crazy how overpowered the sword is, it does 9 quintillion million bajillion damage on a lunge and the basic swing does 40000 damage. It really needs a nerf
really?
Would love to see an option added in gameplay settings to enable 'Always Sprint' and add a key binding for 'Walk'.
A gadget that is used to breach structures.
That's why I mentioned "primary weapon"
The green Gunk AK skin is glitching out for me in game and makes it look like I have a plain AK
Guys donāt you think light is super useless in compi??? Like as a light I can fight heavies but mediums just obliterate me in seconds. Pike, cl40, model all 3 broken weapons :/
when you dont even connect to a match other than powershift and get a leave suspension, this game is great but there are so many little bugs that add up sometimes
Seems like a PS5 thing, my friend also plays on PS5 and he says the same thing. On Xbox there's no such thing but instead there is insane memory leak bugs making the game play like a PowerPoint presentation.
Any chance we can get access to past season pass or challenge cosmedics?
Nerf the fun please. I keep playing all day once I start one match
world tour mostly. rarely anything else, today got 3 plat lobbies with 6-7 swords&dash. extremely fucking annoying to play against
Sorry for assuming it was quick cash I should have read it more thoroughly. They're using sword because of the lack of team wipe penalty is my guess.
Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players
this can sometimes happen on PC but rarely. Usually on vegas most notably but I also found out that it isn't client side? All of my friends are able to see the wall but still walk through them. It doesn't happen as often this season and I have only seen it once again when I played a ranked tournament a single time. But it is an interesting bug. It used to happen all the time where floors and walls would appear to be there but weren't. It def happens less, but yk, it does still happen.
Yo! Equip the stun gun, and go into quick cash. EZ
Oh, didn't know it worked on Quick cash as well, I'll try that out then
Plz add actual skill based matchmaking to world tour. Iām tired of getting new players on my team.
Also nerf model
medium meta rn
only way light is good:
~ 5v5 Powershift (2 teams)
~ 3v3 WT/Ranked final round (2 teams)
~ 5v5 Cash would be great for all classes (2 teams <<WHEN EMBARK)
(TLDR: light is shit in more than 2 team gamemodes
5v5 Cash is a great opportunity to let light be player properly, +signature gamemode easier for new players to understand, +new gamemode for returning fanbase)
Fix the sword that's all
Light on gold/plat lobbies is basically just going ham on sword if everything is fine with it and yet no one plays other weapons on light just cause they are not viable then there is something wrong with the balance idk if it's just the damage or some kind of glitch but makes the game horrifying to play...
Is anybody else having issues on ps5 and seemingly phasing through walls that aren't physically but visually there?
Yes
HAHAHA RANKED IS FILLED WITH CHEATER TRASH, FIX UR GAME
Rank lock needs to be part of the game.
we should be allowed to reroll circuit challenges to a diff challenge with VRs....
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
**EMBARK!!
DROP __ 5v5 CASH __
AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!!! Day 44/100 ā **
Embark give us 3v3 cashouts as a gamemode and not just the final round
please do something about random matchmaking. anytime i go into random matchmaking im matched with utterly brainf#%*ed people against what seems a well oiled team
Dual blades buff please, it needs damage and the ability to chase/stick on people, also the reflect is pretty buggy
Greasy teams :v
Day 16/100
Change matchmaking for solo players. (ranked)
I'm pleased with all the changes this season, thank you!
However, the matchmaking has been broken since Season 2. In Season 3, I hardly played ranked because it was TA, which I detest. I thought you were improving matchmaking for Season 4, but the issue continues.
My matchups make no sense, neither in rank nor in dedication, which is clear when I compare my kills and revives with my teammates. Meanwhile, the other teams have players who should be matched with me, but I'm facing them instead.
Iām speaking as a solo player. When can we expect improvements in matchmaking for solo players? It's frustrating we've been stuck like this since Season 2.
Note 1: I've had teammates say in chat they were playing ranked for "fun," as if itās quick play. This is a bad joke.
Note 2: I donāt mind waiting longer to find a game if it improves the experience. Iād prefer waiting more than 2 minutes than 10 seconds for a team with zero skill.
Note 3: Donāt use the excuse of not changing matchmaking mid-season when you make buffs and nerfs to weapons, gadgets, etc. These also affect gameplay during the season. Youāve had enough time to address it.
Use other game modes for balancing or new weapons testing.
After 4 seasons, itās clear you donāt fully understand the impact of the changes you make regarding buffs, nerfs, or introducing new items.
Please, before changing anything and making us testers, use non-competitive modes for balancing tests.
Utilize World Tour, Quick Play... for your balancing tests and new items.
Last but not least: Nerf Model.
invite them in your party, then the party leader joins the private lobby
Nerf model to 108 damage and nerf pike RPM
At this point I feel like the devs ignore everything about dual blades and refuse to buff them, at this point they might as well remove them
How Model players think they look:
https://tenor.com/view/terminator-winchester-trigger-arnold-schwarzenegger-gun-winchester-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-5761135346656823578
Most hard weapon to use now
For medium class
long range explosive bow(with slight delay) cause medium with that much health(plus turret) shouldnāt spam explosive like that so with bow(with long range sight) u need good aim,itās long range and still good damage to be viable
Or just give these ideas to light class cause it has no explosive weapons
Best guesses as to distance for this kill down in the comments section... I'd say 120-150m?
Also nerf models spread
Nerf the thing that killed me and buff the thing I didn't kill them with
I canāt use this logic unfortunately. Iāve gotten too many kills with GooGun and I still want it buffed.
Implement a separate ruleset for ranked where low skill weapons and gadgets are reworked or banned. Things like sword, model, dash, pike charge, etc
why on earth is there no matching bottom to "ospuze engerized" body piece, on bonus page 13, but we have two LED skins on bonus page 2?? final page of the battle pass and im getting skins that have been releasing in the shop for 4 seasons now, yikes, that is lazy and disappointing af
when the game is loading i had to pee XD anyway, when i came back i found out that i'm kicked and it took me like a 1 min to reconnect, so the point is why it's so little time for being afk make more
i don't know how many seconds it take to kick you out but i suggest to double that time
revert the v9
Cant believe we have people complaining about skins now
Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players
Just came here to say that I love the game but I m dropping it because of performance issues š Bye until its fixed
Yeah its unfortunate, they dont care to fix the bugs or buff them, if the weapon wasn't fun to use I wouldn't care but...
Very first fight in the first game of the day: Tripple Model in my face.
Im making it the last game of the day aswell. This sht is just straight up rediculous.
Enough 'The Models' for today
hook has no place to be in ranked
What's your in game name so I'll know to mag dump your trophy
5v5 cashout or quick cash mode would be EPIC
buff the spear, it is so bad in comparison to the sledgehammer that often your harming your chances by picking it
Region Lock š
3+3v3+3 Cashout? With an allied "Green team" who's just not in coms with us but has combined money with us and we have to fight them in the final round after making it through both knock out rounds? Like a 6v6 that turns into into a 3v3, otherwise same tournament rules... could be a lotta fun as a world tour stop.
Let people retroactively complete battle passes that they paid for
just had a bug in ranked, where the cashbox was in the ground of the map..
also did make a screenshot, but not able to post it here
I think the problem with the light class is that it needs chaos to thrive. Its power is parallel to the chaos going on. If you buff it for comp, you make it too powerful in highly chaotic and disorganized games like most of the Casual scene, but if you keep it even for casuals and it becomes unviable in comp. I think the light should have an ability to create consequential burst Chaos like it does Burst Damage. So that it's not an ability that's useful in already chaotic environment, but useful in organized games. Like in comp.
Please fix the red dot sight clipping on the Grit and Glory M60 skin inspect
5v5 CASHHHHH
why tf did it just tell me "i won't be peanilized for leaving" then when i leave i get peanilized, you fucking for real?
please let us wear watches with the white fencing glove š„ŗ
Day 5 of asking why there are no ranked ps5 lobbies ik having 45min queues
win the fight on the cashbox and the enemy team will spawn on the cashout station effectively punishing you for having won
nerf shotgun and sword , upgrade to ak and fcar
Please embark, add that the Leaving penality Timer only run, if you have the game open. it is so annoying in Terminal Attack and a massive waste of time.
5v5 cashout would be lit asf
Seoul is unplayable on PS5, you can't see destructions on buildings!
PLEASE GIVE ARROW INDICATOR FOR FRAG GRENADAS THANKS
Pls leave some of the skins like this lol. It looks cool
Minecraft mobs in the finals Halloween event š
Every single season you guys somehow bring it to an absolute dog water lagging and unbalanced nightmare. Start of the season always goes great then turns into a sweaty unbalanced mess.
At the very least make the combo 60 60 flat all the time, please embark
NERF THE PIKE, NERF THE MODEL
Please fix the bug where World Tour Tournaments don't count towards "Play 6 matches of Tournament, Power Shift or Bank It" contract
Pike and model are very mediocre, the problem is that you are playing against cheaters (most of them are twitch streamers). They don't miss.
Still need a shirtless option for males,or giving us the ability to customise clothing like in saints row 2 (like having options for cuffed or uncuffed,tucked or untucked, unzipped/unbuttoned or zipped/buttoned, shirtless or shirt on........)
Please embark gods PLEASE
when we got model 1887 and sword nerf, how i can play against them if they rushed, and you cannot kill them if didnt make mistake
Anyone having this issue in world tour win points?
I have 1187/1150 points, and I haven't ranked up to diamond 4
reminder spawns are worse now after the change, I would genuinely rather spawn 200m away from any cashout than be defending one and having 4 waves of teams spawn back to back 30m away, literally spawn animation in front of my eyes no time to even regen, meanwhile there's a cashout other team is getting for free bc it's only spawning them near us
also fighting for a vault and having the team we wiped spawn on the cashout we're going to is just peak game design
hardest felt on monaco and skyway stadium
i like how i get put into a mid-round game and then im not allowed to spawn or play at all so i just get to leave and lose
I also LOVE how terrible spawning is now. I like how i work to win a fight over a vault, then I pick up the vault and as we are walking over to the cashout a team will spawn right in front of us on the cashout where they just get to take the vault and plug it for zero effort. It really makes sense! theres a whole map they can spawn on but theyve gotta spawn on the cashout were going to! It makes so much sense!
If Embark adds Dreadlocks as a hairstyle, I will get Dreadlocks (on puff d)
please dont do this to players.
nerf model 1887
This one right there please
Nerf the model
like the game HOWEVER id like it even more if the fps counter was made not into by 5s but say by 1s, so instead of having the ability to either choose 140 or 145 id rather want to choose 143
nerf model, pike, glitch mines
No it doesnt, debris still broken
Remove the taser, it complely ruins the point of movement in a first peson shooter and rework the blade/dash combo as its borderline a exploit
This is such a you probably bro
nice to see this channel is as unhinged as ever
or remove stun effect as soon as player takes damage
Stun mechanics shouldn't be in video games,also remove defib
Have the devs acknowledged the invisible destruction bug on Seoul and other maps?
Are they aware of the ADS bug?
Are they getting forehead kisses before bed?
important questions here, especially the last one
I manage to go in the game alone (I get 2 people offline/dc from start, not connected) and then I leave after few minutes and I get 30 minutes restriction for ranked.
DEVELOPERS IN THIS GAME ARE THE STUPIDEST PEOPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN
Lmao thereās always something new to complain about in this community sadly š„²
So much cheaters, blatant no worries about ban, in the air they kill you within 3 bullet before they land you are already dead even if you are runing and moving, Aimbot is doing mircales. BTW cheaters team up always wirh cheaters so no one can record their game play. The finals rip. Soon like counter strike ranked on steam server
SO TRUE, EMBARK ITS NOT THAT DIFICULT AND GRENADES ARE SUPPOSED TO FLUSH OUT ENEMIES; NOT JUMPSCARE THEM WITH 130 DAMAGE
The amount of players who deliberately ignore reviving a teammate while they had plenty of time to do so, only to end up losing an objective trying to survive 2v1 or 3v1 is insane, especially now that we are at season 4. Do the tutorials properly teach people the importance of reviving teammates?
Should have just won... noob
embark needs to ban tomahawk#0743.
Fr
World Tour is somehow the opposite of everything Embark wanted it to be - it's not casual simply because of matchmaking. I've played against top 500 players today multiple times, something which I wouldn't see much if ever in ranked. This makes what should be a nice casual mode into something which is a chore
Make me apart of Embark
Can we please for the love of god revert the buildingās structural integrity to what it was from what it is now. Basically playing in a deck of cards now
its casual, next games are probably much easier again. you can find easy and you can find hard games
This season is good and all, but ranked feels like this-
You donāt get a 30 minute ban on your first time quitting. Stop quitting so much, bro.
The Sponsorship bar should not fill based on how many items/squares have been unlocked, as that is not linear progression, instead it should be out of the total you need for the final reward.
Iām only halfway to the end of the sponsorship but it shows up as if I am about ~75%
Please do a hood down version of trick paw tanukišššššand give that option to all outfits or upper body peices with hoods that stay on/up
this would be nice with all the one piece suit skins
Fortune Stadium is by far the single worst map in the game. I will not elaborate
Elaborate @sonic meadow otherwise they won't understand the issue you're facing
kyoto would like a word
I think the big issue with world tour and why a lot of of us players are having issues with how unfair it is to play against those players, is because you donāt have to play ranked to get rewards in the game before you had to play ranked and rank up in the system to get rewards but now with world tour you get certain rewards for hitting gold or diamond in world tour and in my opinion, itās easier to rank up even if you lose whereas in ranked you have to win rank to rank up. It also is more competitive and ranked which is why lots of the people who are still pretty damn good at the game should be playing ranked playing world tour because itās full of sweats, but thatās just my thoughts I could be wrong.
I just want to know why I can't get into a single ranked or world tour match
I only played Season 1 fully after that every season I came back for a few days to check on the game and whether it is playable or not and then uninstalled it same with this season... I downloaded it, checked it, saw that it is still garbage and then uninstalled it again.
When ranked is trash everyone goes on wt
There needs to be a report reason for leaving the match early, if a xbox players in your team leaves early, it has a report option for quiting early, why hasn't this been implemented yet
Nerf model 1887 lol
Dont camp so hard
Please why TF aren't the challenges for " interrupt someone stealing your cash out 10 times" I've switched to playing ONLY quick cash and it seems like you only get progress when you get a kill. I've stun gunned someone, glitch grenade, and straight up shot them and the only time it counts is when it's a kill, not when they're stealing and I shoot them and they run.
Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
git gud
report in game with why, get recording and report to #video-player-reports
nerf model 1887
buff winch to 10 dmg pls I hate leaving them 5 hp :(
or buff ks-23 to 103 so I can kill mediums but not one shot combo lights
winch was nerfed to 5 to avoid oneshot kill combos, like hook>ks23>quick melee on light was 100% oneshot
remvoe kyoto from the ranked pool, this map plays like shit, run likes shit, and feels like shit. You'd be hard pressed to find a single person who enjoys it
remvoe kyoto from the ranked pool
nerf model
make xp-54 as it was before the nerf
it is NOT okay that I can't win a fight against medium on middle distance
Then stop playing the trash ass light class and get good
shut up meta slave
the medium class is op compared to heavy and light and it either needs to be tuned down or the other classes buffed to match its overall flexibility
The AKM and model shouldnt be able to delete a light in a fraction of the time or effort a light has to put in to shred a medium.
Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players
You have issues with AKM?
**day 8000 of asking embark to fix the team spawning: **
A team should not spawn on the vault that we are 20m from walking up to.
A team should not spawn on the cashout that we are walking up to after having just won the first vault fight.
A team should not spawn 20m from my cashout in the final round.
Bullshit, light has the highest DPS, fastest ttk, fastest reload, fastest fire rate, fastest movement. Embark hates medium and if you played medium you'd know. Just as slow as
heavy,just as weak as light, weakest weapons, other than the m60 the highest recoil. A light shouldn't be able to bunny hop around throwing knives and two hit me as a medium, I should have some movement speed to run from a fight like the lights do but I don't. If anything the light NEEDS to be taken down to 100 health OR the medium weapons need a fire rate/ reload buff
you conveniently left out that lights also die the fastest, and are the class most likely to spontaneously die randomly from stuff they can't react to. Medium had a bounce pad, I use it to escape fights all the time, sounds like skill issues
Saying embark hates medium in the middle of MMM meta is wild work buddy, solid cardboard 4 opinion.
light kills too fast in low elo
light dies too fast in high elo
literally can be fixed in the same balance change (less damage for more HP)
(also light is shit in this current meta just bring anti light loadouts, which is existing as medium)
def skill issue lol, light, medium, and heavy are pretty balanced, only some weapons needs to be nerfed like sword, pike, model
you have never seen a medium with a jump pad on a slanted roof
@sleek flame from my perspective its the only weapon that seems to insta delete lights in a CQC fight, even the model doesnt seem to be as quick and its not as forgiving.
interrupting opponents who are stealing your team's cashout or interfering with your team's decrytion on terminal, 10 times. This challenges is not correctly tracking for me ive interrupted 5 times total and it has only registered 1 attempt
PLEASE add leaver penalty to world tour. If whatever the mode is doesn't have backfill it needs to have leaver penalty, period.
@final solar Every once in a while someone with a brain appears
@lapis elbow if thatās what you believe, in my games i donāt see AKM as often, so I donāt what to tell you.
If this makes you laugh, add this for SH1990: Nailclipper skin - reload ammo with your fingernailsš
Seriously, what's with these bugs where you fall through the textures every day session? Or where you walk through walls, or get stuck in invisible walls? Seriously, it's funny the first time, but after a while, it really needs to be fixed. It's getting frustrating.
You're trolling right ? If not, learn to play the game because M > L/H
Same, super frustrating
Well..... I can definitely see me quitting playing this game due to the stupid challenges... lets make them so obscure that trying to complete them makes you angry at the game... good strategy Embark... make your players angry so they don't want to play more... not sure how much longer I will put up with it.
Hey embark Iām gonna quit, what are you gonna do about that embark, surely you care enough about me to do something about it, your game depends on me and me alone after all, in fact this isnāt even your game itās mine I made it and Iām just letting you guys make decisions and content for me 
LOL
you probably play power shift exclusively
True. There is no good reason why I switch to model medium for ranked
PLEASE drop the original of that gif
@pseudo latch we love you vicc ā¤ļø
Bro this gif is a literal year old now please just let it die.
I didnāt have a clue how to set my mouse sens im a better player now I promise
Make it so using a skin with cns particles doesnāt give everyone else wallhacks through gas and smoke
anybody who unironically says the light should have less HP is a bronze player btw
light sucks when you are playing as one, but is amazing when you are fighting one
When there is a financial incentive towards doing something that is limited, either through limited time or limited supply. There are gonna be people who will try their best to get that item/currency. This is why ranked is full of teams with coms, all running meta to get the things they wanted efficiently. Even if you get rid of the limited supply aspect of a gamemode, it still has a limited time aspect of it. So people who want to do something else in the game or have a life will be more competitive if it means that they can be done quicker to get that incentive.
This financial incentive has encouraged cheating in The Finals which is something that can't be fully stopped by a patch update. This is also the reason why people who play this game tend to mewl a lot about balancing both casually and competitively. People will find the best option out of multiple choices and it's encouraged in competition.
The Finals grinds items' usefulness into the ground so that the other options look better in comparison to meta (AKM now being worse than the model 1887 which now makes the model meta).
When they try to buff weapons up to meet the line of standards, they tend to overshoot because they do not understand certain weapons' underlying problems (increasing the damage with the throwing knives back in S2 when they needed the shots to be more consistent).
The Finals balancing is also very hard to do because of how the classes with their specializations, weapons, and gadgets all fit archetypes which tend to blend together creating more problems.
Different playstyles collide and play off of eachothers interests so that whenever you buff or nerf a gadget around an archetype, then you unintentionally affect the other archetypes because of a certain gadget being good or not (dome shield and mesh shield nerfs unintentionally nerfing short-ranged weapons while balancing long-ranged weapons). A game that doesn't take itself seriously, is a game that doesn't get complained a lot.
They should add a umbrella skin to the hammer
Medium shotty nerf when lol
I agree with you 100% I think that theyshould make tournament more of a casual mode and give all the rewards to ranked and in terms of banning they should IP ban the player if itās possible.
Hardware ban instead some people play in the same house
I see it coming,soon they nerf the modell yall will complain about the M26, i m tring to master it, in casual i did 23 kill already with it hahaha
Nah IP ban them. If you live with someone cheating you shouldn't be living with them
I think you missed the point. we shouldn't give rewards at all for gamemodes like ranked or world tour. Instead, focus on having those rewards be achieved through other means other than making people compete with one another. If people want to play the game in a competitive setting, then they can do that with ranked. no game is fully safe against malicious users cheating, and it ultimately falls into why would someone cheat in the first place. its the reason why ranked is filled with cheaters at the higher levels and not in casual, its because of the incentives that these rewards bring. If Embark were smart, they would do ban waves of these accounts after the season instead of banning them when they get reviewed. It would create disincentives for people wanting to cheat in the game that wants the rewards, and would make them have fewer repeated offenders. also if they somehow make AI teammates in the game. When cheaters get reviewed, just put them into special bot lobbies away from everybody else before they hit the banwave.
ip bans are useless, hwid ban is the way to go tbh. the spoofs for it are more expensive
crossplay for xbox / ps5 like s1.
i would agree with this but the games anti cheat is really bad and works mostly off reports, if this happened half of the best players would get perma banned for false banms
quick question for all. thoughts on the dual swords for M?
In terms of light killing, most other guns are better than the akm.
Fcar has a faster ttk on lights and a tighter hipfire spread, and famas can two burst a light to go even faster if it lands a single headshot among either of them. Model is the slowest in raw ttk(although that doesn't really matter for this gun) but can also one tap a light with a shot+quick melee combo.
In general akm has never been very good and is in need of buffing, not nerfing.
id argue AKM is the golden child for balancing, its the "jack of all trades master of none" gun
it should be the basis of what to balance for as its the most average
^ I replied to this post cause I really liked the item idea, but my actual feedback is as follows:
- The sporty spirit badge cosmetics are way too far away from the character. They are floating off the character and making it look terrible compared to other badges like the chisel chum.
- When you are playing on a controller, holding out a gadget while holding onto an object, you cannot get onto a zip line or interact with a door without swapping back to your main weapon and dropping your held object. This doesn't happen when holding an object and interacting with your main weapon out. (Ex. as heavy) If I am holding a gas canister and I have my rocket launcher equipped, it should not make me swap to my hammer when I open a door or want to go on a zip line; it doesnāt do this when I am holding my primary weapon, and I interact with the things while holding objects, it likely has to do with the binding of inputs and the order of which actions are prioritized.
- The mines are practically useless now; only having one mine makes it really difficult to defend multiple doorways. Please either revert the last change, lower the arm time, or make the recharge faster.
The amount of cheaters on Week-ends is unbeliveble. Add shadow ban system, after a certain amount of reports in one match instantly shadow ban. I think this is the best way to piss off the cheaters. Even farlight has a shadow ban system. They dont have enough players for shadow ban lobby they added bots. If you are shadow ban you play against other cheaters and bots
BUFF CL-40
Ah yes thatās what I was thinking but I couldnāt remember what it was called
Buff CL and Model +9000 damage
Can Embark please explain how this channel's feedback funnel into their overall game feedback? Does Oscar come here, read a few comments, then take that to the team? Does someone download all comments , then take that to the team? Or is this just a place to vent ? A place for comments to go die, a black hole if you will? Please, Embark, explain. Thanks.
a fellow man of culture I see
They wont explain lol its just a brick wall here
The anti cheating system of this game is a failure. It is a game where skilled players will be banned, but cheating players can play freely.
Have they mentioned anything about fixing the invincible structures?
we should get the old soundtrack back š
Thermal Vision for Lights shouldn't be a tablet, it should be a toggle
Why have to turn it on with the tablet then just be able to toggle off?
Can we please change the "final round" into THE FINALS
- Faster than heavy 2. 100 more health than light 3. Strongest weapons 4. Knives can only two hit a medium with multiple charged attacks 5. Medium almost has better movement options than light
What the fuck am I standing on? Fix this.
Are we playing the same game?
Embark please fix the glitch on console where the building is destroyed but we canāt see it
so why wrench claw get to pull people through walls?
make heavy the same speed as light
daaaaaaaaamn that sucks
just remembered I still never got my cosmetics from beta, I think I had problems with logging in after full release?
could they please make it clear how fans are calculated? I've had games where I've great and scored few fans, and I've had games where I've done awful and got plenty.
No but like fr, am i stupid, is it somewhere obvious?
Embark hates medium, they should buff the healing beam and make Model nuclear fully automatic
...
Make light the speed of light as well
nerf this game, it is too fun 
please buff heavy and revert the rpg nerf, this game was way more fun with MMH MHH meta
nowadays everyone just plays MMM and its pretty boring
this mother fucker killed me before I could even hit his teamate with a second burst
light sword is so trash
Balance the game to have Meta be HML and it will be peak
wish i could get your games, i get LLL all day and can never really have fun
This won't be the case if weapons keep getting nerfed. Nerfed weapons means people escape battles before they die. Which is where medium heal beam comes in
Fun weapons NEED to be nerfed. For the corn harvest.
yep, still sucks to get 2 tapped
This would unironically be meta if pike and model were nerfed. At least in high elo
REAL
variety is more fun to play both with and against
which is why I am saying to BALANCE the game around this idea
Reticle sway isn't fun and should be greatly reduced.
Light is a fair and balanced class... said only light mains
we need to talk more about FSR 3 upscaling
We need to talk more abt game crashes
We need to talk more about the outdoors and maybe even the gym
Respawning with 0 bullets after a defib is a problem ngl (they defibbed me with no ammo) (Don't give full ammo back, but it's annoying to respawn and literally have no way of defending yourself)
as in a bug or as in your teamate is dumb and deffibbed someone with no ammo
Recently I've been getting a lot of matches where the buildings look intact but they are actually destroyed. It so annoying I'm walking down a hall way and magically glitch 3 floors down
we need to talk about adding TTS to the announcers that lets them say player names (huge funny and absolutely no harm can come from that)
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
braindead take
The Finals offers fast-paced, chaotic action with dynamic environments and destructible elements that keep every match fresh and unpredictable. The team-based gameplay feels rewarding, though it could benefit from more map variety and balancing tweaks. Overall, it's an exhilarating experience for fans of competitive shooters
When i see how people are complaining, i tell you again, this is the finals not counter strike or call of duty. This game is for people who want to play with skills. Here you need movement not like counter strike and here you need skills not like cod. The only players who can play the finals are apex legends players. So you need to learn how to play the finals or go play roblox or mine craft š
delete kyoto
fix the spear pls
I wish riot shield could less the damage from heavy's dash and slam ,cuz they spam it like crazy
Flamethrower, hammer, famas, cl-40, mines, fire nade, sword, all good against triple light teams.
I am tired of the soloqueue experience. Stop pairing me with premades. It completely ruins the experience. Solos with solos and premades against premades. Simple. It ends up being frustrating.
the fact that thats still a thing 4 seasons later is straight tone deaf
defib
this guy gets it
This proves nothing other than ranked meta is not light š¤£
Charge and slam we can all agree is broken, yes? well since its not meta does that mean its not broken?
Balanced is gone, Heavys one shot Lights, Lights one shot Mediums, Mediums spam turrets that one shot lights. Its all gone.
The best thing we can do is mass report anyone using a grenade launcher, at least we can get some of the bad players out.
It proves that medium is hard meta.
dawg I was just talking about the damn model, it does too much damage. Lights and Heavies are the ones that don't give me an issue. I kill lights and heavies like a breeze but put me against another medium that is using a model, and I have a rifle of any kind and/or a 357. I will still loose even if I hit all my shots.
fix the sniper rifle, shots dont even go to the center of the crosshairs, issue since like season 1 why you guys keep ignoring it. Also do some server maintenance, still servers where shots dont deal proper damage.
yeah and ur screenshot of a quickplay match is so much more meaningful to the state of balance in the game
Fucking report button needs fixing. I don't try to report until the last few sounds of a round, Since I want to actively be playing the game while it matters. But the win screen through score and rewards has like 15 different times where it pulls you out of the report menu, and then when in the main menu the opponents don't seem to be in the recently played list at all. Shit is more rage inducing than this climb out of bronze, where only 1/5 teams have 2 other players whoknow what a gadget OR specialization is (not both).
riot shield should not be able to be quick meleed
Please swap out the sponsor XP rewards on the final page for something else. I get more then that amount of xp just from the matches I need to get to it. It's quite useless
on the results screen that shows what contracts you've completed it goes through the all the levels of every single gadget ive used in the match, but not just for the exp i earn in the match no but it plays a level up animation for every level ive gone up ever, every single time without fail i lgo from level 1 to level 7 on all my gadgets and weapons
just venting but man it really sucks i just got 7 kills in a row at the last cashout and still couldn't get it. that shit just broke my heart, like what more could i do
this is so real, they shouldnt kick you out of the screen for anything
No need to buff defibs, it's already the most strongest gadget in the game
@sullen aspen true, this is so frustrating, when you start to explain why you report, and after a few seconds, you need to look again for the nickname and restart the report š¤¦
mf posts a quick cash Screenshot
Delete kyoto
They balance the game around ranked correct, thats why every seasons theres a season long meta that forces you to play 1 class in ranked to progress...
Once again "HOW CAN YOU GAUGE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT USED IN RANKED?"
Charge and slam + RPG combo is pretty broken but its not meta in ranked so its not a issue right?
not really, i mean 3 fps difference aint much when coming to loses but i would like to have it as close as possible, however going with 145 can cause screen tear at times
You guys need some chinese guy to improve the anticheat system bro⦠otherwise the hackers are actually gonna drive away the little playerbase we have left
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
day 37 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD
Hello EggMail I was hoping to suggests a cosmetic idea that could give the players a good laugh. it would be a mask that covers the players head with a victory animation at the end of the round the animation is they take the mask off to reveal their face its an animal with a sound effect or a weird looking facial expression that could change each game creating an unexpected surprise each time could be a good thing for a mystical aspect for halloween or it could build on the lore of the hacker group changing our cosmetics to send a message.
5 ways to fix defib:
- Breakable holos; prevents people from reviving right in front of you
- Spawn with no abilities; no more chain defib and no more abil spam to run or get kills
- Holos break when the rest of the team dies; no more last second resses or chain res after the team is basically dead
- Stun prevents defib.
- Remove it; nobody really likes defib all that much
ask yourself what is the sole purpose of playing ranked and then ask yourself why something would not be played in ranked.
hint- the point is to win
hint- its rarely played because it isn't seen as a viable method to consistent wins.
genuinely sorry for being a little rude earlier cause I didn't realize you have some sort of learning disability. it makes a lot of sense now that I realize you struggle to count past 5 and are still tying to defend the notion that a quickplay screenshot of a game that isn't even finished is somehow the golden standard of the state of balance in this game.
so we die at pink right, then you spawn us all the way over here 210 meters away from it to the cash out with less than 15 seconds left in it.
no they dont actually balance around ranked at all, they balance around whiny losers like you who complain about light in quick cash which is why the class has hardly ever been relevant in ranked cashout since release of this game besides maybe 50-100 people that make the class work in high elo
maxwell the cat as a pet?
5 please
True
The problem with pike in my opinion - it's extremely forgiving
Why would you aim to the head, if you can kill light in 3 bodies or medium in 5 bodies as well
Nerf the whole game and transform it to call of duty or counter strike
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They do NOT balance around ranked. They balance based on whatever is being complained about, which is a balance issue half the time, and a skill issue the other half.
Stuck in the tournament loading screen after 1 round (all the peeps lined up) anyone else experiencing this? Iām about to be banned for an hour because Iām just gonna leave and not wait another 10 minutes for it to fix itself.
some of these finals guys need to get a grip, when playing light i have had teammates refuse to play because I'm "throwing" by playing light (my stats are x2 theres ps)
defib isnt an issue, medium having high burst damage like Pike and model is, the support capability is NOT a problem when the Support lacks damage.
how tf do people think triple support being meta (with 2 specific guns) is somehow the fault of the support tools and not the fact that medium has guns that are better than Lights Guns?
Remove some support ability and keep weapons around famas level and the class would be fun.
Please revert the changes to Data Reshaper. At the very least find a place for the glitch barrel in the previous consistent sequence. By introducing randomness you've reduced some of the versatility of the gadget. Almost no one used it, you've made it better by increasing charges, only to gimp it right after.
@bitter nexus new glitch where tracking dart effect dissapears immediatly
It really would be nice if you didn't spawn teams in between you and the cashout in quickplay, its not fun wiping one team and escaping a second with the cash box just to be intercepted by the first team you wiped on the way to the cashout
make tracking dart headshots crit for double damage
and delete kyoto
tracking shots do no damage to begin with no?
Being able to choose what you turn something into would make it much more viable.
5 dmg.
gonna repeat myselft but pleaseee fix cpu performance
Indeed, it's a pity.
having issues with movement: in certain areas getting stuck in the nowwhere. Feels like lag issues but it doesnt seem like it. falling through floor then teleporting back where i was. Cant move foward like i was stuck in gho. Strange movement issues. Is this happening to anyone?
Most light players are near braindead so I don't blame them tbh
Fix THE FINALS in GFN By ABYA plsssssssssss
They just need to remove grenadelaunchers all along. Even if they would be nerfed to the ground, the whole concept of this weapon just doesn't fit this game. The soundscape and visualscape when someone is shooting you with a gl is just obnoxious.
I fully agree with the amount of explosives that are already in the gamem there's no point in even having a grenade launcher I mean there's even characters that can just run through walls it really does have no purpose at all
the model needs to be nerfed so bad, if you play light at all you just die immediately
First of all. Read my name.
And then... :
- Nerf model damage. To strong. Can one shot a Light at 20m.
- Nerf grenade frag. 149dmg is too much. You can't one shot 33% of your game. Or add a indicator
- Nerf PIKE. Still to op. There is no penality in hip fire. Broken.
- Nerf Deagle.
- Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower and less bullets. Just useless so.
- Reverse mesh shield nerf
- Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
- Give back the RPM on the V9S but let the damage.
- Buff Light in some way they can survive more longer instead of dying in a frame. Did you ever wonder why PIKE and DEAGLE are a prob but not the new shotgun Light ? Because no one use it because you have to be in CQC and in CQC Light die ! No one wants a Light in ranked and even in silver rank. Do something for the Light to be more META.
- Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown or add charge.
- If Hook do damage, stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
- Reduce the gap between HP class. You can't balance properly a game with so much gap between HP class.
- Nerf flamethrower range or damage.
- Nerf Dash x Sword. You shouldn't be capable of right clic into dash with a Sword
More on the game :
- Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
- Ban cheaters-Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO INCREASE TO STOP DYING BEHIND COVER !
- Let us choose our sight at the begining of a game
- Let us go in pratice with friends !
- Delete low gravity event
- Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
- Random skin list for weapons / gadgets
- Random charm list for weapons/gadgets
- Add a TDM mode
- Add a TDM lobby when your waiting for participants
- We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad
- Let us join our friends in group, not only invite them
- Add the possibility to PM in the game
- Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.
Original V9S DPS: 265
Fire Rate: 430 RPM (rounds per minute)
Damage per shot: 37
Updated V9S DPS: 240
Fire Rate: 360 RPM (rounds per minute)
Damage per shot: 40
DPS Reduction = 25
If you want to reduce the fire rate while maintaining the damage the weapon does please make the RPM 400. (with 40 damage per shot)
My Preposed V9S Configuration:
RPM: 400
Damage per shot: 40
DPS: 400 * 40 / 60 = ā 266.67 (similar to the original DPS)
That may be the case in ranked, where people sit right on top of eachother and disadvantages get amplified
But for casual they are pretty combat viable, to get this much support balanced they would likely need nerfs across the board, which would not be a good idea and limit the fun
Model and pike may be part of what makes medium meta right now
But defib has still been a must pick in all medium loadouts since season 1 due to how ridiculously strong it is
These issues can exist simultaneously
They, do make make eachother worse and more impactful, but that doesnt mean they are fine on their own
I would signed your take on Defib. Pretending Defib is fine is like saying RPG was all the Seasons before also fine or the original Stun Gun... - pre nerf the pickrates were 99,9% and still is for Defib.
@near silo Right? Set the Defibbed player on gadget cooldown and no more defib chaining, leads to more diverse loadouts/team comps.
Remove on top heal beam stacking and you might have another step to HML.
@upper citrus You don't get my point. Fixing the stack effect leads to variations. Instead of having 3 defibs/healbeam you might have just 1-2 in the team, so someone could pick APS or Zipline, turret, demat.
Right, RPG is still the best pick, which confirms how OP it originally was.
Stun Gun is the only Gadgets which got significant reduced in Pickrate.
Yup, still no clue why it's cooldown doesn't reset if your rezzed with another defib
What do you expect players to replace defib with? Pyro nade? There really isnāt much else on medium. The class has gotten -1 gadget total since launch
RPG is also still a must pick on heavy for the same reason
ppl complaining more about defib over model and pike is killing me , no shit embark cant balance anything listening to this channel
Agree with all except the last one
I don't think it's wise for some items to be able to be placed on moving platforms such as the objectives, Things like turrets and mines can and will be spammed by entire teams. I've watched 2 teams of 3 place so many turrets on the point it was impossible for any team to get close to it.
Buff Randoms please
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Can I please have a virtual hug and/or a wish me luck?
I've obtained a total of $50,000,000 cash for the Deep Pockets Trophy/Achievement which should unlock at that amount, however, I'm only 64% of the way. Which means I have to earn another $18,000,000approx to get it. Which means my $50mil is really $32mil (towards Deep Pockets).
Which means I have to obtain $68mil instead of $50mil.
I mean, I know. Patience 'n' all and I love the game & I'll get it eventually but it's just... Sorry. It's getting to me.
I get it. I'll touch grass.
Thanks guys for being so understanding. š¤
As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.
By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.
This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 56)
I have been playing this game since launch and I have never looked at a contract. Please have an option to remove the contracts from the scoreboard when I'm playing ranked. There is way too mich clutter on the screen when you need to check info in-game.
Please do something i canāt really deal with 3 medium now with the model
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
Nerf model to 108 damage and nerf pike RPM
Iād like to see the killcam idea.
Day 9 of asking to add an mp7 to the game
ideally? anything
in a perfect world you could choose any item and have about equal chances of winning, only effecting your playstyle (and possibly match-ups)
medium has a good amount of options, they dont lack variety
zipline, jump pad, aps, data reshaper and glitch trap are all good medium specific items
pyro-, gas- and goo grenades all offer good value in a vacuum, so do the mines
the only reason these are looked down upon is because defib offers so dis-proportionally high value
you cant buff everything up to defibs level without breaking the game
and adding items as strong as defib will not contest it, they will only replace whatever items are in your 2nd and 3rd slot, leading to even less variety in loadouts, and punishing those going off-meta even harder
defib needs a nerf
Thatās the thing though we were playing crazy we even many to get to the second round with out our throwing team mate I just with people werenāt so set in the idea all lights are bad and honestly most of the heavyās and mediums I meet are 10 times worse then any light
Guys do you think defibrillator need a rework at least it gives me 1/2 my weapon ammo when itās empty because itās really usless now when it takes time and enemy prepare to kill you and you spawn to die again
Day 17/100
Change matchmaking for solo players. (ranked)
I'm pleased with all the changes this season, thank you!
However, the matchmaking has been broken since Season 2. In Season 3, I hardly played ranked because it was TA, which I detest. I thought you were improving matchmaking for Season 4, but the issue continues.
My matchups make no sense, neither in rank nor in dedication, which is clear when I compare my kills and revives with my teammates. Meanwhile, the other teams have players who should be matched with me, but I'm facing them instead.
Iām speaking as a solo player. When can we expect improvements in matchmaking for solo players? It's frustrating we've been stuck like this since Season 2.
Note 1: I've had teammates say in chat they were playing ranked for "fun," as if itās quick play. This is a bad joke.
Note 2: I donāt mind waiting longer to find a game if it improves the experience. Iād prefer waiting more than 2 minutes than 10 seconds for a team with zero skill.
Note 3: Donāt use the excuse of not changing matchmaking mid-season when you make buffs and nerfs to weapons, gadgets, etc. These also affect gameplay during the season. Youāve had enough time to address it.
Use other game modes for balancing or new weapons testing.
After 4 seasons, itās clear you donāt fully understand the impact of the changes you make regarding buffs, nerfs, or introducing new items.
Please, before changing anything and making us testers, use non-competitive modes for balancing tests.
Utilize World Tour, Quick Play... for your balancing tests and new items.
Last but not least: Nerf Model.
pike is to op. lh1 and sniper cant compete even a little. rpm and damage too high. how come you buffed lh1 in season 3. INSTANTLY CHANGE IT BACK AFTER 2 WEEKS. then you bring a new BUFFED version of the lh1 to the game. GAVE IT A CLASS WITH 100 MORE HP.
and nerfed the lh1 EVEN MORE!
not to forget the sniper nerf that led to insane interactions where i cant stand a chance against a pike AT 120 METERS DISTANCE (no joke)
Nerf pike and model and watch medium become perfectly fine instead of nerfing support tools again
Great MM guys. Proud of you
I love how after every patch you guys find new "OP" weapon to whine about even when it wasn't touched in a while. just because your endless complaining gets so many things nerfed things that haven't been touched in a while become good.
stay bad bots
One problem I think no one speaks of:
Thermal vision is broken.
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Doesn't always mark players in white as it should.
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Doesn't always show the damage you're inflicting on others (nor does it show health bars) when active
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Doesn't always show the "eliminated 'Player tag' " notification when active
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During night time after deactivation you're blind for a couple of seconds (all you see is a black void. But maybe it's meant to be like that, i don't know)
Most of these start with "doesn't always" because these issues don't occur every single time. Yet they do happen very frequently, almost every time upon activation
can we get a 2nd sponsor option since a lot of people are already past 200k fans and all it does is just break the title past 168k
stay bad bots when litterally everyone is playing the same gun... mmmmhn idk maybe something is unbalanced ??
Or maybe, it's because the guns are OP? Have you tried thinking about how 3 shotting a light or instakilling in qm range might just be a little unbalanced? There aren't new weapons people are complaining about anyways, it's the model and the pike
Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console
Day 3 asking to buff m11
93R feels fantastic & should receive no further buffs. It has a variety of strengths & weaknesses, as all things should. This allows for skill expression & fairer feeling gameplay.
Weapons should be brought down to its level, instead of it being raised to theirs. Excessive damage output has always been a major issue in this game given the extremely punishing nature of deaths.
You can't really balance it, to make it like that.
But in ranked you can force role lock to be LMH something I would really love š„²
Games in a pretty good spot at the moment

powershift money doesn't count in the Deap pocket achievement
Ohhhh my god. Thatās embarrassing⦠š³. Youāre the first and likely the last to ever say anything like that š
90% of Quick Cash games is defending an objective for the third team to walk in and steal it. Let's get a new game mode soon please.
sword skin thats just left handed idk
Hello embark, this feedback is very important and i think everyone can agree
Buff: The Crane, make the wreckingball a freaking teamkiller, right now its a joke, especialy when the wreckingball is falling off the crane
just give light defib bam problem solved
I will say this is the first season where Iāve felt like Iām not blatantly throwing without the RPG. Iām also seeing less of it in general. Which may be because charge and demat are more popular right now.
I agree I think they need to look at bringing the WT style system to QC. Ive even been seeing an uptick of teams in quick cash that just wait around huddled in a corner doing nothing until the 2 other teams fight then just hop in for the last 20 seconds of a cash out to get the win. You can legit be afk for 90% of a quick cash game and win, and it makes it pretty unfun to play against people like that. I like quick cash since I dont sweat ranked, but it seems like even the sweats in ranked got tired of constant MMM meta and come to play MMM meta in quick cash where we just wanna vibe. I wanna see more experimental gamemodes and Im kinda bummed we didnt really get one this season.
Also random idea to make tracking dart more useful, give it a thermal scope that can see other cloaked lights and through smokes.
Just wanna say this season is pretty awesome! Best one so far in my opinion. Sure theres critiques. But its a killer season at the very least. Hope it reaches more and more players!
delete this channel and bless anyone who actually gave constructive feedback rather than bitchbaby tantrums
no, m11 is perfectly fine
@smoky gust In the same way you canāt buff everything else up to the level of defib without breaking the game, you canāt nerf defib to the level of the other gadgets without making it unusably bad. Even giving the defib holo like 150hp would keep defib as a must pick, itās just a side effect of just having support tools in the game, itās no different than healing beam always being a must pick. As long as itās one of the only sustain related support tools in the game.
It is okay for a team comp with no support tools to be an objectively weak team comp. Just add more support tools to medium and weaker support tools to heavy and light so that viable team comps without medium can exist and so that mediums can spec into something other than support in the meta.
Support tools will always be a must pick. Thereās no real fix to that and itās also not necessarily a bad thing, theyāre teamplay focused items in the team based shooter. Itās healthy for them to be strong
(Was meant to a reply to your message)
^ real, listen to this guy
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i agree!!!!
I agree nerf the model 1887
when we got model 1887 and light sword nerf ? it's unplayable shit. EMBARK please check games, do smth, currently ranked state is awful, new spawn system solve nothin, team spawns right infront of you and if you coverin cashout and 3rd team wiped u spawned on another point.
Hope to see a Mesh buff in the next patch notes.
It's still useless.
With it's current cool downs it should be a massive dome shield that surrounds the player
Welp that's depressing, but honestly not surprised at all to hear that this is happening. It's sometimes tempting to do that, just to see if it'd work but personally I don't do it out of respect for other players, it's just unnerving to see this type of abuse is enabled by the game mode mechanics itself... Quick Cash was definitely more fun first 2-3 seasons when it wasn't as predictable or a clownest "every team steals until a random player walks in when everyone is on spawn and steals". It's not even satisfying when you're the random walking into a deserted objective, I do like "earning" the objective but this is not the case here. Actually it has become rarer to feel satisfaction when you queue solo since most people just want to play Rambo, not revive teammates and lose the objective seconds from the end of the countdown while fighting 1v3.
I hope they bring an alternative to Quick Cash, the 5v5 game modes are good for a break but aren't quite as addictive as early days Quick Cash.
if u really think what makes mediums op is the defib then u should consider uninstall
I hope this is satire
Why tf nobody use other classes? All fucking medium??
PLEASE ADD DIFFERENT BALANCE FOR COMPETITIVE AND CASUAL. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BALANCE COMPETITIVE AND CASUAL BECAUSE OF INHERENT CLASS DIFFERENCES. HERE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMPETITIVE SINCE CASUAL IS WHAT YOU FOCUSED ON AND IS IN A GOOD SPOT RIGHT NOW:
changes for comp:
revert double barrel to season 1
buff matter damage, fire rate and/or range
buff v9s damage and range
revert lh1 range nerf
revert xp s4 nerf
increase m11 dmg
revert stun gun indicator change and make it so it blocks gadgets again (defib nerf)
make glitch destroy defib holograms (defib nerf)
make sniper hitscan again
do all of these and light will be able to compete with with the other two classes in the meta
revert dome shield hp nerf
revert s4 mesh cd and hp nerf
reduce rpg damage to 50, increase destruction damage range
make healbeam not stack healing on same target
make defib a team wide cooldown
nerf pike hipfire and/or nerf pike damage upclose (inverse of damage falloff)
with these changes you will get as close as you can to a meta that includes L.
right now L is useless.
give heavy heal beam too whilst ur at it
This happened to me too. My $51M was 95% of the achievement complete. World Tour money counts towards the goal thankfully.
incompetent support team that doesn't ban cheaters
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game freezes out of nowhere on pc
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third party n outmeta simulator 2 of the most unfun things in a game
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pc ported controlls straight out of a mobile port
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deserts have more content than this games updates.
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everyone i know only stayed as long as they did cuz the future hope the game leaches.
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oh n it might as well be singleplayer cuz nobody uses their mic. seriously.
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reality check it took 1 full season for them to remove mele aim assist on pc. fucking genius controls. forever a game made for casuals n people who wanna feel good sweating against casuals.
((((XBOX)))What's happening with crossplay turned off? I want to play a ranked tournament with crossplay turned off in NORTH AMERICA (NA) but the estimated time doesn't appear....what appears is "time of wait: to be defined". Could it be a bug??? you find a match with cross turned off in WT but not in the ranked tournament. bizarre..
i think pyke is one of the most op weapons ever
because embark forgot to add weaknesses to medium
Couple observations between this season and last season.
Was Skilled match making introduced?
Last season I was constantly dropping 19/4 K/D Games Or 24/8 Games. Like Every third game frequency, though sometimes they might be back to back.
With this season one of every 3 games I'm lucky to not have a negative K/D.
I am well aware K/D doesn't matter in the game. I'm noting that while I use Heavy Medium and Light, I just enjoy light the most cause Movement is so fun.
I feel it completely impractical that everyone is magically better.
I could play for hours before and it was very rare that I had a 1:1 K/D let alone a negative one. Now I can barely not get a negative one.
I have hundreds of hours in the game. I didn't just magically get worse.
I read every patch notes. And even in my kits and builds that had no nerfs or buffs. I can't perform at anywhere near the level as before.
Kinda kills the vibe. I have to get lucky to have a literal perfect cohesive team with me that are all decent at the game. To stand any chance to not just be crapped on.
Second. performance stabilization limited many settings and is bottlenecking my pc. Last season I could run 300 fps. Now No matter what tweaking I'm almost stuck around 220 fps.
Torrak is 100% right here.
RELEASE THE HALLOWEEN EVENT FROM THE PRISON, PLEASE!
there are ways to get defib to the level of other items without making it unusable
that would be keeping it strong, but making it easy to counter
i think your idea of giving the hologram 150 hp would achieve exactly that
if it doesnt change that its a must use, then at the very least its frustrations have been majorly lessened due to the added counterplay
if it does turn out to be unusable, that would be fine in my book
id rather have underpowered items than op ones
because you can always stop using weak items, but you cant stop an enemy from abusing op ones
using riot shield may lead to a significant disadvantage, but it only lasts as long as you want it to, you can always swap to something average
now with model and pike, this happens the same way, just 1 step up, now average weapons arent enough and lead to a disadvantage
its the same principle, but the latter leads to a far more limiting loadout selection
and the same thing has been happening with defib since season 1
which lead to it being a mainstay in all medium loadouts
even if defib wansnt the only support tool, it wouldnt change how broken it is
either the others are too weak and cant compete
or they are as stong
in which case, why would you throw out 1 broken item for another, if you can have 2?
it would just lead to even less diversity with now 2 broken must use items
same thing with adding more support tools to the other classes, it wont change how broken defib is
support items in a team based game arent inherently a bad idea
but in the same vain model is a gun thats too good at shooting
defib is too strong as a support tool
Sword has no right to be in this game as it is get off your light-main-cope-gas Embark you light-brains
as a returning player i can def say that the servers are SIGNIFICANTLY better this season, season 2 and 3 were so bad I was lagging across the entire map but now I play without any rubber banding
Omg thank you for putting in words why i dont play the game anymore. i have 1000hours in the game and LOVE it. i love to improve and learn so i choose difficult playstyles with a high skill ceiling. (1000 hours consisting of dagger and sniper ) But as i was CLEARLY improving, the devellopers drop nerf after nerf after nerf and overbuffs AND new op weapons. Its so sad seriously i just wanna cry when thinking about this and the amount of money ive put into the game.
HELP US EMBARK
its like the game sees you having fun and is like: āoh, we see you having fun, lets work against that so he cant have that much fun anymoreā š
Change the respawn points. It's so stupid wiping out the enemy team only to have them spawn near the cashout points and ambush you. You basically opened the vault and delivered the cashbox to them. What the hell is the point of wiping them out in the first place
Take these trash challenges out of the game. No one wants to hit people with a cash box or throwables EVER much less 50 fucking times. It's not fun, it's not clever and it's moronic.
Can we get a āsorryā added to the com. wheel? I feel bad sometimes when I do dumb plays and canāt com with non VC players that it was a mistake and not me trolling so they donāt tilt and leave games
I like the glitch nade idea but light is definitely very well viable in ranked.
Bring back s1.
it's definitely because of defib, not because of pike and model for sureš¤
**EMBARK!!
DROP __ 5v5 CASH __
AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!!! Day 45/100 ā **
Yes bro why don't you know? Defib gives you 1 round free win, makes you immortal and kills all the enemies in long range with high damage
nErF dEfIB trust
Fix challenges not counting. The "revive a teammate" daily didnt trigger twice in a row.
@granite vector @torpid sky @quick coyote 
Please do not use a Commodore 64 as hardware on the servers. I believe we could achieve better ping with a Raspberry Pi. Thank you.
Could people who leave game casuals on purpose be banned?
Remove kyoto
Goku in the finals
FIX YOUR FUCKING MATCHMAKING
Pike rpm nerf
Model range nerf/dmg nerf
Deagle range nerf
Fcar range buff and 1 extra dmg
Akm slight range and 36 bullets back
Xp damage revert nerf range
Sword canāt be combined with dash (should be a pause between the heavy sword attack and dash) and slightly nerf the dmg of heavy attack
Test out balance changes via world tour and quick play (not ranked) so we donāt have to go through another gl meta again thank you.
Charge and slam nerf overall dmg
Allow glitch nades to disrupt defibs and maybe allow sustained damage on the player using defibrillator to cancel it pls the spam is to much
We are so close to the best meta and yet some things ruin
can this game have different lobby music packs?
Day 7 of asking Embark for Viking Cosmetics
Brother wants to nerf everything so we all just start to fist fight
Got kicked by the server before the match even begin and couldnt rejoin the match, got also 10 min ban . Can you fix that please
day 306 of begging embark to improve the terrible netcode. I'm really tired of dying 2 full seconds after running behind cover, dying through cover because the enemy continues to see me for 2 seconds after I go behind cover, people not even facing me shooting me etc etc etc. Like, the server-side destruction is cool and all but having fights where human reaction time is in the equation would be nice.
Fix your skill level
@misty schooner Sure im low pplat have to play against team of top 500s? nice matchmaking that is
they should add a way to slap light players irl who run in without their team and constantly die
balance feels like a foreign concept in this game, never seen a class like medium in any game be so overpowered for so long with no action from the devs'
revert v9s or give it higher rpm
replace this garbage contract, I threw games for over 6 hours to get the 8 that tracked. I have completed every single contract since launch that anyone has ever complained about (before you swapped them), but I'm not doing this one, I just can't anymore, throwing games trying to get this actually makes me want to uninstall. I have tried every gun that should be good for range, and the only luck I've had was literally with the silenced pistol, which you nerfed and is absolute garbage now in fights it should be good for, but im taking it, in hopes I'll get at least one moment a game to shoot at a target 50+ meters away, except fights at those ranges don't happen and anything with a scope to go beyond that feels terrible to use.
They silence nerfed the modell without telling us, today the modell deal less damage than before.
No they didnt lmfao
Bow needs keybind (preferably on Reload) to drop the shot without firing an arrow.
some people saying audio is broken in the game and i dont think so
Being matched as a 35k player with a 6k player, being overall expected to finish 7th, finishing 5/6th and losing 600 points for it is peak matchmaking
Ćo.
What is everyone's opinion on the balance between heavies and lights, trying to settle a debate
nerf the cl-40
me when i lie
Give light a single dash
Please
I beg you from the deepest part of my heart
Please oh please
NERF THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF TRIPLE MEDIUM, It is the least fun thing having these pricks just defibbing and healing eachother constantly, make it so if multiple defibs are on the same team then they get nerfed to shit.
You got 3 defibs? They only bring you back at 12% health and the i-frames arent even there for you loading back in.
You got 3 heals? They only heal back 1 hp/s and overheat in 5 seconds
SPAWNS ARE SSOOOO BAD!!! RUNNING BY A CASHOUT WITH VAULT. AND GET DESTROYED
Honestly, this 100%, even as a Medium Main, it's kinda ridiculous the sustain you can maintain, a party of 3 turns into a party of 4 and a half real fast. Never ending carosuel of defibs is insane. :c
Wow you are so correct and I fully agree with your points mr.#1 hammer and also you are super cool in real life and have a loving relationship with your father
Turning Defib into a specialization would fix most triple M team spam.
what weapons were they using by any chance
Tripling down on support should give you access to a ridiculous amount of sustain. That's not the problem with medium, the problem is combining that with the two best guns in the game.
shotguns are to strong, pls nerf it or made headshotmultiplier on and nerf bodyshots
Wow you are so correct and I fully agree with your points mr.#1 hammer and also you are super cool in real life and have a loving relationship with your father
edit: please let me out of the basement now
yup, just the fact that the pike is a better version of the lh1 shows the devs are clueless, why is the better gun on the class with more hp EVER, lights should have the best weapons in the game period and they just dont
I got 18 in one game of power shift on horizon it's probably a skill issue using the pike I have 41/25 for that lol
Just run quick cash and exclusively go for it. It doesnāt harm anyone if itās in the most casual game mode.
I was just running the sniper on light and got it done in like 2 days whenever I was online.
bro thats what I do, all I play is quick cash, but it's annoying, I'm not throwing games for hours on end.
Why am i not getting anything lower than 3 seed even though i keep losing š„²
Defib does have innate value that means it can never truly be reduced to the level of something like a Smoke without ruining it, but I strongly disagree that it should therefore not be nerfed nor that it means itās a foregone conclusion that it will be a must-pick forever.
Firstly, if, as you say, Defib were to remain a must-pick in spite of strong nerfs, why not then implement said nerfs? For such a scenario to occur the gulf between it & its alternatives must be chasmic. When comparing Defib to APS & Reshaper - never mind the more basic Nades/Mines - we know this to be true.
This chasm is harmful to the game as it stifles creativity & reduces diversity. The likes of APS, Reshaper, Goo Nade, & Glitch Trap are unique tools with versatile uses & both strengths & weaknesses. They are largely healthy for the game. Yet Defibās dominance pushes them to the periphery.
Future Gadgets are guaranteed to intensify this problem. Either they are strong enough to compete with Defib & so they become must-picks too, leaving 12+ Gadgets to compete for 1 slot, or theyāre comparable to all the other Gadgets & the competition for the remaining 2 slots bloats further, pushing weaker options ever closer to extinction.
When you account for Jump Pad/Zip this issue exacerbates yet again. In more skilled lobbies these are also largely must-picks, meaning there is already just 1 slot left for the rest of the Gadgets to fight over. Similar to Defib, they provide innate value (team traversal) & are incredibly consistent. Unlike Defib (resurrection), they do have some alternatives (Lightās Gateway, Heavyās Grav Cube, Goo Nade, general destruction), are situational instead of universally applicable, & are not frustrating.
Defib itself - independent of game-wide balance - is also just poorly designed. It provides some of the greatest value in the game for minimal effortā¦
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Can you change the matching mechanism? I just want to match two teammates with normal intelligence, logical thinking, no greed for war, no love for war, and normal operation.
Instead of matching me with two oil bottles in every match, this bullshit matching mechanism is devastating to the game experience.
Games must be fun! Imagine a scene where you come home from get off work after a busy day, turn on the computer and prepare to play some games to relieve the fatigue of the day.
The enemy on the other side kills you like a pig. Can this be fun? May I ask?
Stop making fucking weapon bundles. They're too damn expensive. I can't afford them.
The biggest requirement for games is to be fun. There are many factors that affect the fun of the game, among which anti-cheating and matching mechanisms are the top priorities.
First of all, we must do a good job in anti-cheating, otherwise cheaters will kill everyone who has not cheated like pigs.
Secondly, the matching mechanism must be improved, otherwise high-level players will kill low-level players like pigs.
The last thing is weapon balance. I donāt understand it, so Iāll say less about it.
The problem of weapon balance can be summarized as the TTK time is too short and the resurrection time is too long, making the game unplayable.
There are two ways to solve it:
- The TTK time remains unchanged and the resurrection time is shortened to 1~3 seconds.
- Increase the TTK time of each weapon to match the resurrection time of more than ten seconds or even dozens of seconds.
but its ok for light with dual barrel shotgun to 2 tap heavy/medium or single tap other lights? (yes its ok don't nerf that too)
ok lets say next patch 1889 gets nerfed. another gun will become meta without any changes to it and yall be crying nerf this now smh
Can y'all fix this stupid bug that isn't showing my progression correctly? I am Diamond 4 and it just says I am now like 20 points over the limit for Plat 1
the thing is it doesnt even feel good to win against a triple medium team because there is no even skill exchange. you play like a god, they play pure noskill an still is it that close of a fight. FUN is it if you win against a team that is as good as yours or better, or if you win against a hard matchup. (for example shotguns vs ARs on open field cashouts)
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Nerf model, but then also nerf m26 matter 
Why does every light weapon have to kill you in 0.001 of a second? Its honestly ridiculous and the most unbalanced thing ive seen in any game ever (even USAS frags from BF3). In an otherwise very fun and balanced game lights are such an outlier and go against the higher TTK of this game. Embark HAVE to do something.
I believe a game mode that is a 5-10 team mode and itās an elimination mode. Like TA but not really. So defibs. Healing beams and healing should still be active. And you can be revived. āBut eggs? Thatās just TDM but with more teams?ā Yes but no. If you team wipe. Your gone. And maybe you can add like so you can only have the gadgets like one and thereās refills. Like creates to people can find others. Or make is so every player once awhile gets pinged. So itās like the original game mode ānetworkā (?) whatever it was called but with a twist of TDM.
the main argument is that he has 150HP, if you both shoot eachother youll kill him before he kills you
try to listen out for cloak / dash sfx or footsteps
the higher up the rank/experienced ladder you go light becomes less of an issue keep grinding
add skibidi toilet
ā¦99% of Defibs do not require any skill but 99% of Defibs provide the potential to change the outcome of a fight. There is no scenario, no map, no modifier, no Cashout in which it cannot be used. There is minimal counterplay. Itās cheap & unhealthy.
Mās support potential via Defib, Heal Beam, & to a lesser extent Jump/Zip is the reason he has featured in every single meta since release. It is his core strength. Even release H, which was beyond broken & independently superior to M, still ceded a spot to M because of the value of being able to resurrect, heal, & move said H. It was not uncommon for an M to do nothing other than healbot his Heavies during a fight - Mās weapons have never been the primary cause of his permanent presence in all metas.
Analysis of the other 2 classes show that this dominance is not a foregone conclusion as M is the outlier & not the norm.
Light does not possess a class-defining Spec or Gadget upon which all else revolves around. This is very healthy & undoubtedly the explicit intention of the devs. Of his 15 Gadgets, only 1-3 are notably weaker than the rest & whilst the rest provide varying degrees of value they are competitive enough to all see use.
Heavy existed in a very similar state to M for a long time. Mesh was a must-pick for its team-oriented defensive (& offensive) capabilities, which no other class could offer. Dome Shield too. Barricade to a lesser extent. RPG rivalled Defib for best Gadget in the game. A series of hefty nerfs to all 4 of them changed that. Aggressive Winch became the norm. Then Charge n Slam. Whilst RPG remains too strong & thus a perma-pick, vast reductions in Hās role-specific & team-oriented tools has resulted in a far wider variety of Specs, Gadgets, & thus playstyles being viable.
There is zero reason that this cannot become the case for M too. Here are 4 strong nerf proposals: #šāgame-feedback message
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This man is seriously playing ranked with a hammer. I salute you, sir.
Have only been playing it since halfway through season 1
the cashbox doesnt go into the cashout when you throw it⦠love that concept embark studiosā¦
Damn it, S4 is all down, S2 and S3 are not so much, it really pisses me off.
kind of disagree, because EVERYTHING can be support. even killing an enemy with a frag. it just depends on the situation and how you use it. so the goal for the devs is to make gadgets that are in a bad state less situational and better in generell, and gadgets that are in too good of a state more situational. And sometimes the most simple trick to do so is to reduce amount of healing, create ways to counterā¦
at the end of the day the goal should be to bring all gadgets as close in line to each other as possible.
(specs and gadgets obv. need to be balanced seperately, and there is to be watched at possible op combos which should never be too versatile but more situational.
Pike nerf when?? Also, I totally agree with @dusty igloo
Been playing a lot of light lately cause medium and heavy have gotten boring..light is without a doubt the easiest class to get kills with. The throwing knives might be a little strong but they No reg often enough to be okay. The M11 absolutely slaps heavies it's actually nuts. MP5 is ok I guess. LH1 is still too strong but not crazy, maybe just needs a small damage nerf. Sword is still by far the easiest weapon to wipe teams with. Dagger is...the dagger..either you stab them in the mouth for the "backstab" or just use RT and die. 93R is still useless. V9s was perfectly fine but I guess they didn't like that and now it's way more strong for console players who never even reached the original the fire rate cap. Bow is still nuts but it takes a small amount of skill so it's not the worst. Not sure why they nerfed the double barrel just to bring it right back up and I think even better than it was originally. That need to change though..2 shots for a heavy is completely absurd. Sniper is still cringe idk why people don't use it as much anymore. The projectile change has almost 0 effect on the weapon. M26 is fine I guess but why is it almost as strong as the DB but with basically infinite ammo? Definitely needs to be 6 or less round for that gun. Overall I do think the game is the most balanced it has ever been but there's still some big issues like THE MODEL. Idk which dev is obsessed with that thing but they need to be fired.
yes;
buff the strengths
nerf the weakness
of ALL classes
@vocal bloom hit the top side of the cashbox, if you look at the station the entrance for the vault is on the top side - hit the upper part of it itll go in
I believe it would still retain the majority of its strength if they were to be implemented, because the majority of its strength is innate: player resurrection. It would still easily exceed the likes of Smoke.
Whilst you cannot reasonably remove the innate value of resurrection nor healing, you can reduce the consistency & versatility of that value so that alternatives become viable options in certain scenarios. Just as has happened with Heavyās defensive output.
The reduction in untouchable HHM comps especially have allowed Light to eek its way closer to the meta, meaning these nerfs had game-wide positive outcomes too. Nerfs to Defib/Heal also disproportionately favour L over H.
Remove stacking from Heal Beam & improve base health regen - two big nerfs - & that will also remain viable whilst opening far more windows of opportunity for other options to be chosen. In conjunction with the Defib proposals, Mās healing output would shift greatly to single-target instead of team-wide.
Suddenly multiple support-focused Mediums are far less viable. Lightās pick potential sky-rockets. Heavy no longer has to be balanced around M-pockets.
With just 3 classes I also do not believe that locking them into strict roles is remotely desirable. The existence of this has had a horrible effect on the meta since release. Light receiving more team utility & Heavy receiving more aggressive & traversal options has positively reduced this disparity. Mās heal/rez potential remains the stark outlier.
You also cannot simply rely upon the idea of adding similar tools to the other classes. When Season 4 ends the game will have existed for 1 year. In that time we have been given:
- 2 Specialisations
- 4 Gadgets
The rate of development is only likely to decrease going forward. With so few options being added you cannot rely upon Embark to add exactly what is necessary within a reasonable timeframe. It is a far better idea to just address the issue itself directly.
@upper citrus
Game Performance Optimization asap.
Light was more viable in HHM than MMM. This meta is worse for light. The issue with MMM is their weapons. Defibs and heal are fine on their own, but since medium doesn't have to sacrifice firepower to run 3 of them, they end up being that much more oppressive. MMM wouldn't be viable without overtuned weapons. A proper nerf to Pike and Model would solve the issue.
Fix the spear please šš
dagger back stabs are bugged hard. it doesn't register most of the time if don't do it perfect. (That issue could be server sided.) Even if you stab some one while climbing a ladder with dash it doesn't back stab. LIKE HOW I ONLY SEE HIS BACK. + bring the old dagger
i would rather they add nothing rather than some ultra broken shit
There needs to be a in game report for the people who leave the match, it's getting ridiculous, no point in posting in #video-player-reports as if that's going to do anything. The suspension does nothing,
today was the official leaver day. ive never had so much leavers b4 lol
its more like a straight upgrade to the revolver almost
Release HHM was the least viable Light has ever been and just about the worst meta it could ever possibly experience.
Defib was instant. Healing Beam was the strongest it has ever been. Mesh Shield was the strongest it has ever been. Glitch Nades didnāt explode on contact. RPG oneshot Light. Lewis & FCAR deleted Light at any range. SA12 was even better up close. The current meta isnāt remotely comparable.
I am also discussing M as a class, not MMM. Pike might have propelled that specific comp to the fore but the class itself has remained meta no matter what since release because of its incredibly overtuned support capability, not its weapons. Which is why - as I wrote - it featured in HHM as a healbot despite H being a better class independently.
@red echo Defib is the ultra broken shit, so doing nothing would leave us in that situation (which we are already in).
ranked bank it in S5 please
You're supposed to stab them from the front bonehead...I know it's wrong but it's a fact
Canāt turn off crossplay- controller wonāt allow me to move over there.
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-doctor-revive-defibrillator-gif-5304585453076024179
Rename the Game Grey's Anatomy š
oh yeah i see now, i was just throwing it and praying for it to go in
Pls, give back console only lobby
I'm talking about s3 HHM/HMM, since that's the most recent (and most balanced) meta as of late.
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Remove defibrillator from the game.
Who thought bullets getting blocked from friendly player ragdoll was a good idea fr? Im not enjoying the game since i have 2 heavy's in my team. they blockin all of my shots !
please stop adding distance based contracts
@clever hawk its not ultra broken shit lmaoooo , strong ? yes , remove defib 3M still gonna be the best in the game , nerf pike and model , not anymore
sword bandaid fix:
- increase lunge speed / reduce cooldown
- damage on lunge / swipe is the same
- glitch trap disables lunge
this shit is so fucking annoying
Seriously, when are you gonna nerf the light sword lunge 360 noscope throw your mouse cross the hallway hit all other players in 1 lunge? We all know Light is your darling class but they got strong kit as it is with 1shot 2shot weapons we dont need spin to win garren wannabe
Buff thermal bore, make the burning source actually a real burning source, it can actually burn players but the chance to do this is maybe 1%. And buff the explosion damage to 25>50 . This way thermal bore gets a little combat use aswell, making it a bit more versatile
can thermal bore stick to enemies
if not make it possible please, itll be funny
New gadget idea for M: Anti light drone
A drone that automatically detects nearby enemy light and kamikaze itself on it. Player can tag enemy to command the drone to self destruct. If the light is a coward sniper far away from the drone then the drone will create a portal and teleports next to him to explode. Coward snipers receives instant death by drone explosive damage. If a light is using a sword with its fucking cringe plunging and dashing like a brainrot cringe idiot, then the drone will instantly spawn kamikaze on that light everytime he respawns until he changed his weapon to a more decent pick that actually makes fucking sense.
I had an idea like this but it should be a spealizeation and you could put c4 or a APS turret on it or you local light or medium
I think you your self should be able to stand in it for movement as well
You should make a musket skin for the model 1887
That part of my post was explicitly about Heavy after all of the nerfs to his defensive capability, which opened up the meta, especially for Light. And how a similar reduction in the team-oriented (which will always favour the classes with more health & utility) output of Medium will similarly improve the state of the game.
@red echo remove Pike & Model & M will still be perma-meta, as it has been since release even when it was primarily used to heal and revive a superior class (Heavy).
Because Defib & Heal Beam have been the crux of its power since inception, well before Pike even existed. Thatās ultra broken.
As Iāve already stated, the discussion was about M as a class and not just the MMM comp.
Optimise CPU usage fr
Game is crushing on ps5 now? Beautiful
why since the update has my frames been so bad my game jitters to fuck
when we got model 1887 and light sword nerf ? it's unplayable shit. EMBARK please check games, do smth, currently ranked state is awful, new spawn system solve nothin, team spawns right infront of you and if you coverin cashout and 3rd team wiped u spawned on another point.
The clothes are awful. They are all the same. Bring back nice clothes already please. The season 4 battle pass is terrible. I want to spend money. I can't.
This
Remove snipers and riot shields. They make fights slow boring and predictable
Model is perfectly fine!
Everyone who thinks it needs a nerf is just frustrated by decent players.
Pike however is so too strong:
If a DMR (Pike) outdamages a shotgun (Model) on short range, even though both players hit every shot they get to make, then that just doesnāt make any sense whatsoever.
bring back recon as there is no counter to demat
That will just result in demat being stronger, 1 takes demat, 1 takes recon. Counter demat with demat I guess
@wintry oyster Pike is too strong, but model is not perfectly fine. Either buff other guns or nerf the model.
put distance contract sin the bin wher eit belongs and take weather out its a shooter game not a simulator
Make it so in rank not everyone can be the same class
The pike doesn't come close to out damaging the model in close range.
Nice try, your guns getting a fat nerf bro
The cheaters in ranked are getting WAY too common. Feels like every game there's an obvious cheater
Those are both low tier weapons that dont get value against good players
I think a fun April fools update would be a CNS hack that scrambles everyoneās specializations
Such as when you spawn you are given a random spec despite what class you are and upon use you get a completely different one after cooldown. Imagine a heavy with grapple hook or a light with charge slam
can someone tell me why all players complain about defib ? i m heavy main , i play with medium but they are totally lost wwhen i ask for a defib hability on me ;-;
When you block someone it NEEDS to fucking block their text chat also! Super fucking annoying getting that one piece of shit that just wants to degrade and throw the entire fucking match bitching at me the entire round and antagonizing me and ruining my fucking experience. Seriously, they don't fucking shut up even when asked politely.
Sonar nade and proximity sensor.....
if you don't think shotguns are busted, ok. plenty of people left the game because 'nukes' were ending fights before they begun, see what happens. I've used shotguns plenty but most wouldn't touch them but for some reason this season there could be 8 or 9 shotguns in 1 lobby, entire teams just using shotgun.
This would be honestly a dope idea, and it does 80-85 damage
The same thing happens to me. Do you know why? Bad connection or is it the game servers?
Repair game in steam or reinstall game solve this issue
remove triple M triple Defib its so ass to play against
i dont have solutions, just fucking do SOMETHING about it
its so exhausting
its not fun
it has like no counterplay
lmao
It doesn't have any kind of counterplay, and it restricts freedom since as it stands defib is effectively mandatory for support
Use glitch grenade as light for defib and healer instead crying here
it has to be the game, this only happens on Kyoto for me, its not internet because I use an Ethernet cable. and I play on Console.
thats not gonna work you dont get the opportunity to glitch someone before revive, you can also just shoot him in that time and kill him, probably even faster than waiting for the glitch to go off
Winch should not have a stun effect, make it a displacement tool not another stun gun on heavy.
Respawn after getting wipe are shits we cant try to counter ,-,
nerf model
fix audio its ass
nerf the damn model
Nerf the people who ask for model nerfs.
please add hud safezone
Meanwhile, defib is occupying a slot in every medium loadout since season 1
Sure, the weapons are a problem, but defib still remains an uncontested issue
Lack of alternatives is not the problem either, there are plenty
Defib just doesnt get outcompeted because of how much stronger it is compared to everything else
Nerf both the weapons and defib
nerf medium shotgun and light shotgun (DB) add ranked gamemode that isnt ranked, quick cash is dogshit
Nerf the double barrel? tf? You have to be within 5m to get a kill and thats for the class that has 100-200 less health than the other classes. the double barrel is the last decent ttk weapon the lights have...
Ranked gamemode that isn't ranked = literally World Tour
Buff Model
Does anyone else have issues on PS5 with destruction and debris not showing in your gameplay?
Upon death contestant statutes should match player size/ outfit worn
winch without a stun is useless, sometimes they dont get stunned and can shoot, so you used a gadget to damage yourself basically.
its not a free kill though, only with sledge. stay out of winch range = useless spec
Make it so you have much higher recoil for a short time instead of a stun, so that way people with good recoil control can still do something, but for a lot of people it will act similarly to a stun, and make it so you cannot use gadgets during the duration of the effect.
remove the challenge that makes you "interrupt steals" I dont want to run around as a stun gun using light, boring ass gameplay
Winch without a stun become a displacement tool and not a free kill button that cancels literally every action. "Sometimes" is not a balancing point.
Can you change the matching mechanism?
I just want to be with two teammates who have normal intelligence, normal logical thinking, are not greedy for war, are not war-loving, and operate normally.
Such a stupid matching mechanism will always match me with two people with Down syndrome who try their best to hold me back.
This is a devastating blow to the gaming experience.
Games need to be fun! Imagine a scenario where you come home from get off work after a busy day, turn on your computer and prepare to play some games to relieve the fatigue of the day.
Can it be fun if your opponent's enemy kills you like a pig? I ask you?
There are many factors that affect the fun of the game, among which anti-cheating and matching mechanisms are the top priorities.
First of all, be sure to do a good job of anti-cheating, otherwise cheaters will kill green players just like killing animals
Secondly, the matchmaking mechanics must be perfect, otherwise the higher-level players will kill the lower-level players in the same way as the bugs
Then there is the weapon balance. I donāt understand it very well, so I will talk less about it.
The problem of weapon balance can be summarized as the TTK time is too short and the resurrection time is too long, making the game unplayable.
There are two ways to solve this:
- The TTK time remains unchanged, and the resurrection time is shortened to 1~3 seconds.
- Increase the TTK time of each weapon to match the resurrection time of more than ten seconds or even tens of seconds.
The least important thing is the skin, because this is a game. The game is mainly for playing, and the viewing part is secondary.
Finally, your skins are so damn expensive, I want to buy one or two skins that cost around 800 in game currency
It costs a full 72ļæ„, but I can use this money to buy 48 roots of corn at a price of 1.5ļæ„ and eat them till the end of the world.
can we please get a feature to remove a map we don't want to play ? i hate kyoto, i hate how laggy that map is. id play any map but kyoto
i dont want to play a hour long match, i want 1 round of that game mode, we used to have it but they took it away. @worn horizon absolute dog shit game mode
then play quick cash
Iāve really been enjoying this season.
I still match make against D1 players (Gold 2 after some grinding this weekend) and havenāt played much ranked since our 3rd is out of town so I canāt speak to matchmaking there.
The pike nerf you donāt really feel. Kinda on heavies, but not really. Based on the dev notes, I could see further adjustment - which is tough because I think it is a high skill ceiling weapon similar to the model. I see a lot of complaints about the model but itās never been tweaked since the very beginning if Iām not mistaken. Itās certainly gotten a lot more popular since the og FCAR mains (me) have started using other weapons due to the lack of dominance by it. Thereās no need to keep nerfing things, not at this point (imho). I enjoy it and when Iām not hitting shots Iām consistently punished. When I am, I am rewarded. Thatās how it should work. The heavy weapons are still pea shooters. Thereās no use in using anything but the akimbos if you have fair aim. Utility nerfs have made this class less dominant, but the weapons category of the heavy make it not very fun to play (again, my opinion) light is still very fun to play, but you really donāt see it in high Elo lobbies. Occasionally, and that player is usually a sweat (or cheating).
Iāve experienced a lot of latency and server timeouts since the new season: disconnects (PC) which is uncharacteristic for the game in my experience (recommended hardware/software)
With the changes to the healbeam - nobody runs it anymore. Especially with the buff to demat, thereās a demat epidemic, and I hate to see it. The support of healbeam was great when used right and punished when not. Thereās new tweaks make it barely viable for use anymore.
Again, there needs to be a way for Embark to nerf stacked gadgets and specializations and not just outright nerf things. I would be really interested to see the stats as to those that still use heal beam vs. the new popularity of other specializations.
i have been struggling to play this game after the last update in season3 till season 4 i have rx 7900xtx with ryzen7800x3d the game stutters every 3 seconds and no body really did anything fix the game issues wih UE5 on amd cards i dont want to stop this game for sucha reason
it is a free kill? you instantly render any close range weapon useless and win every 1v1 because you get to shoot before the victim can do anything. In what world is this fine and not a free kill?
m11 audio keeps glitching and wont stopp..
Depends on the heavy weapon, KS-23 has a pretty slow TTK, SA1216 a lot faster but not many people use it anymore, Sledge is a free kill I can agree on that.
Winch is easily counterable though, play distance
Okay, DOUBLE the first respawn timer so you don't get punished for winning the first fight.
Cuz what happens EVERY match? -> You rek a team, start moving towards your cashout, where the other team that got wiped is already waiting for you and reks you cuz they got the higher ground. Or you get tasered halfway, they steal the box and outrun/throw you cuz they spawn insanely close to the cashout you're going for.
Nerf model it's ridiculous
They should add power shift to the maps it's not on
Delete defib from the game
Every time an explosion happens, there will be HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of particles that will spawn from the roof and cause my game to go from 90-120 down to 5-15. Idk but it's ONLY when destruction starts, when the pieces of the roof and such are actually moving and falling, my game runs like normal.
More sponsor skins for clothing and guns
Burn the defib
Put a switch on the V9S
While new skins are very impressive and inventive, I think a greater selection of subtle skins would be nice, like the betas had
Level 9 weapon skins sometime this season would be a big win
Fix this please. I reset the game 5 times, tried playing more rounds, nothings working
Model doesnāt need nerfed the problem is them nerfing everything else made the model seem way stronger than it is in reality (besides against lights). This game will be the next helldivers. If the nerfs keep coming like this. Everything will do peeshooter damage.
The finals is one of the cheapst games , dont be so stingy
You have to get to 1200!
let the spear do 150 with the first two swing PLEASE