👂┇game-feedback

[quick coyote]

It's too bad this game is f2p and has like 7 players.... Otherwise I'm sure they'd do it

[ocean shore]

nukes are still a major problem. medium and heavy can still get nuked in a single blast. also i suggest buffing throwing knives a tad. i love them to death but the secondary is pretty much useless cause you cant hold it. i think damage is fine (maybe like a 10 damage increase per knife but thats up to you guys) but the secondary really needs to be buffed in terms of how its able to be used. holding it would make it much more viable in games

[earnest ermine]

Nuh-uh

[shy sphinx]

Go back to fortnite if all you care about is player count, likes and subscribes. Game is alive and well. Not every game needs 1.5 million players. Sesason 2 should be awesome.

[cunning dagger]

Please improve matchmaking. Just met 2 of the dumbest players to ever exist. They cashed out first 10k box and just sat their the whole game thinking they would win now.
Ofc they were stupid bronze and playing at plat with such intelligent players is just..

[wild dune]

Revolver needs a buff

[brave echo]

I don’t know if this was fixed, but somebody glitched a vault into the floor after they cashed out 10k. Nobody else could get to it and they just waited for the time to run down to win

[hazy swallow]

will the game get optimized before chapter 2 season 1? smfh

[obtuse wedge]

• Will be awesome if the battle pass or the season period could be shorten down to 50-60days or something (or to create extra lvl and rewards to continue incentive people). Always good to have new season and new content since balance and SBMM and along with some other stuff like cheating or blablabla aren’t going away any soon. Grinding the battle pass seems too easy atm, people quit right away once they finish the pass like 10-12days.
• still strongly suggest to make coins much viable other than unlock weapons and skills. More and more players got them weapons unlocked and wasting all the coins in daily missions everyday

[lapis pollen]

Dagger worth a revert, OB version is ten times better than now.

It's storng enough and easy to balance. ( I don't even care that if we need right-click + quick melee to kill med)

Not like the recent version, useless and suffering.

[solar garnet]

Better social menu, able to invite and kick ect from in games and see whos online

[tulip patrol]

Can we get a deathrun/obstacle course event? I would love to see the creative strats to race accross the map with gadgets and a destructible environment to reach the finish line (of course, fighting other teams to be first). I think it would be a fun way to explore and experiment ways to traverse the map as efficiently as possible while also making it fun.

[azure mason]

We need attachments, more classes.. literally everything this game has, BUT DOUBLE. It would be so much fun

[errant flame]

<@&1012034066876473384> Why does C4 often deal ~90 dmg while its "Player min damage" is supposed to be 100?

[twilit wolf]

Please fix the penalty for losing ranked while having a leaver in the match :))

[manic smelt]

No. Attachments takes away a guns uniqueness

[cunning dagger]

Please improve matchmaking.
It's just boring and irritating to play with bronze players while in plat. Bronze silver players have a different mindset and they just play wherever they want to. It's tough to play solo with bronze players against full fledged teams with proper plans.

[quick coyote]

no idea! you can send in bug reports, just check if someone else hasn't sent it already

[dry lichen]

any fame point you lose by loosing that round should be taken from the person who left- unless they're copper 4 (certified thrower) then they get temp banned from ranked. Unless its a multiple offender- 3rd time full game ban for 1 month.

[stray epoch]

reminder: you can safely leave the match without getting penalized if one of your teammates leave it first in round 1 of ranked

[scarlet hull]

Please add a "Sorry" to the voice comms wheel so that I can apologize to my team each time I am terrible at the game (note: this is often)

[dense marlin]

Where the true zero deadzone at my aim in apex without aa is better then here in the finals cause of deadzone

[naive flicker]

Season 2 is almost here, which means I'm almost outta here if we don't see them revert those aim assist changes. So many people would come back to this game on console if they did. Very happy to see the PC player base just under 10% of its peak. They killed the game for console then killed themselves.

[glacial knot]

From diamond 4 and above alsmot every battle one cheater team with wallhack even if you dont move they know exactly where are without recon.

[maiden rover]

fucking dumb a light can 3 shots a heavy with a sword, put ranked with people which have the same rank so we can have a bit of tryhard

[faint tinsel]

wait forreal?

[upper citrus]

it got nerfed in the last patch but wasn’t mentioned. it’s a good change

[eager maple]

new skins are sick. i wish the neon skins would be available for more weapons

[coral solar]

I want to start this off by saying I love this game but it's borderline unplayable with crossplay on for consoles there's no way it's fair I can be beamed from these distances like this across the map getting killed by pc users using fcar is ridiculous and without crossplay turned on finding a match takes over 5 minutes please change it so crossplay only puts you into playstation and Xbox lobbies unless you have a person using mnk on your team

[stable lagoon]

How to fix the Finals and recover the lost playerbase:

1. Add breast and thigh slider
2. Add option to remove shoes

[autumn iris]

this might be a hot take but I feel like the flamethrower could do with a slight damage nerf, slight increase in range - at least comparative to the tazer, and lights should recieve a slight health increase.

[lofty crypt]

MORE Fcar SKINS !!!!

[split drift]

Nah actually lowkey facts

[karmic niche]

Nerf turrets

[paper stream]

Nerf everything, ban everyone! Side note - It would be nice to have some anticheat in the game.

[quartz nexus]

3 lifetime refunds for in game currency akin to fortnite would be sweet with how skins are rolling out. Bought the fox skin for the black arm pain but now neon cowboy is way cooler and better for all black skin such a feels bad me no spend no more moneys. if u got a few in game currency refunds people would be more willy nilly with they spending

[chrome merlin]

Please finaly remove aim assist on dagger

[stable lagoon]

So basically the main issue is that lights neither have the tankiness/damage of heavies nor the utility of medium.

Tbh I do believe that lights should get some more gears available to them, which would make them more team-centric

[violet elbow]

just wanna point out how in overwatch, Orisa, a ranged tank, deals 110 dps, and tracer, a short ranged squishy damage dealer, deals 220 dps

the difference between the lewis gun and the XP54 is less than 50, in overwatch the ranged tank has half the dps of the damage dealer, in this game, tank gets 2 different abilities to oneshot a light and Light gets half the DPS increase compared to something like the example above

Light and Heavy are awfully balanced and nothing in this game actually seems to be designed for Light

oh and lets not even start on how the Light shotgun cant even kill a heavy without reloading, how much are we gonna continue catering to the fat class before light becomes actually viable for more than 10% of the playerbase?

[hollow dove]

Mopeds season 2?

[past phoenix]

how many years Ow have ?

[gloomy aurora]

Nah they need to add that

[stable lagoon]

OW is a bad example of gameplay balance.

Besides, just quick melee the Heavy after the shotgun blasts lol, even dagger users don't get an instakill with backstabs on heavies so why should you?

[cedar saffron]

when are we getting skins for fcar???

[rough acorn]

you sounds dumb asf

[violet elbow]

"just quick melee the heavy" yeah only issue is that its still only 340 damage if you melee the heavy afterwards and by that time you are dead because lewis kills you quicker than you can double shotgun blast + melee

[weary bridge]

heavy shotgun is better than lewis in few maps, man u dont know a thing xD

[dusky night]

I think they should add 5 grams to the c4 every patch

[jagged cedar]

Triple medium is just bad compared to mhm or hmh. I'd even argue that hml is better a lot of the time. ranked is pretty much entirely dominated by mhm and hmh

[tame pivot]

''MMM is OP''

Meanwhile one heavy with 4 button press

@tropic drum he says unironically under a gif of a heavy wiping a team in 0.5 seconds

[sour bane]

MMM is the easiest to play and easiest to get value because of click to revive.

While it's not statistically the most powerful comp, it is the easiest to play, and that's why you see this comp the most often in ranked

It's honestly Defib + FCAR that makes this comp most chosen. Defib is a fucking crutch for poor positioning and overly aggressive play. It makes this game incredibly dull.

[glad ore]

Adding to this: you feel the absence of a true frontliner going MMM, especially when you go against other heavies that play like American football linebackers that run straight at you with dome shields and shotguns. Chain heal and defib memes are funny and can recover from a bad situation, but that only comes into play when you're already losing a fight. MHH or MMH tend to not get to that point straight away.

[crude brook]

I don't understand the problem with nukes. Died to it twice in 30 hours of gametime. If you don't think there is a way around it, you're just not good enough. The medium class on the other hand is still op. There are way more broken abilities that belongs to this class. and it's the reason I main it. (I only play bank it)

[topaz swallow]

Cloak should be invisible to Recon while standing still. If this is how its already supposed to work, its broken. Recon can see Cloaked enemies standing still through walls atm.

[thorny wren]

to nuke or not to nuke, this is the question.... et tu, brute?

[thorny hill]

MnkyDPsycho#9078 is a thrower POS!!! they literally just stood there emoting for the whole game! this cannot be allowed!!! they must be fully deranked and banned for a month! allowing this kind of hard throwing will lead to this games VERY QUICK death!

[high drift]

How are you guys approaching these situations where you get blasted by a heavy?

[thorny wren]

they probably had a contract to emote ! 🤦🏻‍♂️ 🤦🏻‍♂️ 🤦🏻‍♂️ Some of those contracts really set up trolling. I'd love to see those get changed. Create some new ones instead of play x build x times, etc.

[keen lily]

idk what was changed in the last patch but since then I am getting MUCH lower fps on Monaco

[viscid spire]

custom games I wanna run real life tournaments

[mossy urchin]

Anyone else getting severe input lag?

[velvet steppe]

Can we remove charms and stickers? They’re completly useless because half of time they’re bugged!

[lavish shard]

Light its hard

[violet elbow]

actually thanks for pointing that out I just approached it all wrong all this time, I finally figured out how to do it, thank you man!

[crude brook]

what if i could see when i was revived?
i think that'd be pretty cool...
maybe i should just work on my positioning though...

[daring fossil]

gotta love when the first game of the day has a cheater, and then a heavy on the other team running around shooting people while invisible. great game

[sour bane]

Add team cooldown to Defib, it's so annoying in ranked dealing with double/triple Defib

Or when they're shot at, it cancels the charge, so there's counterplay to it

Why the f would you add such an impactful equipment with this little counterplay

[pseudo latch]

Day 5 of me begging embark to give heavy a KS23 four-gauge shotgun

[subtle tree]

.75 seconds invulnerability, screen whites out for half of that, and you respawn with 40% hp. how much counter play do you need?

[thorny hill]

exactly! this is what is killing this game! this and HARD throwers!

[paper stream]

Feedback - have anticheat in the game. Yeah, I know, you would need to ban 30% of players buc cmon. Otherwise you say that cheating is acceptable if not too obvious.

[slim karma]

Cheating is still so out of control in ranked tournaments, every 2-3 games there is someone cheating 🙄

[keen lily]

so fucking cool that after the update my FPS on Monaco is shit and now I got it like 5 times in a row in ranked

[daring fossil]

not even just ranked, quick play is full of them too

[misty flower]

Sbmm still doesn't exist like wut!? How am i supposed to climb when i EXCLUSIVELY only get matched with silver/bronze teammates??

[quick coyote]

Touchy

[scenic knoll]

I will goo you till you get afk warning

[jagged cedar]

MMM against a proper comp is just 6 free kills

[thorny hill]

im with Juan on this one - @sour bane I think you got it wrong! many times I have killed the defib applyer AND the person they rezed! It's really not hard especially with focus fire! It is no more impactful than turret for sure!

[daring fossil]

SBMM does exist, the player base in which to match you with does not.

[open summit]

Can we get a spit emote ? I would like to use it when I eliminate someone 💦

[teal flower]

So only your enemies are at your skill and the teammates are completely random?

[paper stream]

I will probably be banned for that but: Fuck you Embark - you made a nice game but cheats, inconsistency with server synchronization, and lame excuses to nerf a lot of stuff in just enough. It was nice, now the game is just anoyment. Good luck, maybe next time you will figure out formula that works for more people.

[daring fossil]

it matches you with/against whoever is available to play because there isn't enough players at your rank to make a full tourney

[keen lily]

yea the ranked is random af right now, you either get a juicer team of diamonds or bronze fresh starters being at gold rank

[abstract patio]

Finding it difficult to want to play other medium or light when heavy is GOD

[gray nexus]

Major bug

TLDR; Game doesn't stop searching for a game after accepting team invite, game should stop searching for a match right when i click that "accept invite".

I entered "search for game", game starts searching for a match to join, while game is searching for a match my friend sends me an invite, i accept the invite and it pops me in to my friends squad, i see all of us standing on the main menu, but one second later the game puts me in to a game because the game search found me a lobby, leaving my squad behind me, probably thinking i just abandoned them, when in reality i was forcefully janked out of the squad because the game doesnt stop searching for a game even i joined my friends squad.

[flint falcon]

Medium grenade launcher needs a heavy buff it doesn’t have enough ammo to do anything and I’ve hit a heavy 6 times and he still lived

[thorny hill]

the physics on moving platforms is SO broken! I have my crosshair on a stationary target and it doesnt hit! You really need to fix this!!! It was literally coming at me and it didnt hit?!?!? people falling through the bottom! walking through barricades! this is just sloppy man! Remove until you get it right!

[exotic wave]

Revive denial, this game is encountering the same issue battlefield used to have with getting revived into insta death because teammates don't think if it is a good idea to have revived in the first place. It is really frustrating to get revived into dying anyway because I'm in line of sight of multiple people, or I have no ammo to help fight anyway.

[fickle geyser]

limit 1 light character per team in solo queue, the majority of games where i have 2 light players we lose, don't get me wrong, not saying it can't work by people who know what they're doing, but I rarely get paired with people who know what they're doing

[keen lily]

-100 in ranked for shitty teammates is a fucking joke

[lunar fossil]

Please allow parties to enter a practice range. I have friends that I'd like to get them acquainted to the game with my assistance BEFORE getting into games. Currently they can only get into practice mode by themselves.

[lean moon]

I dont know if this is an option yet, but please make a button to restore the building in the practice range.

[junior lagoon]

Dear Devs. Please can the continent of Africa have one server, example locations would be Cape Town or Johannesburg (South Africa), there are datacenters in these locations which other games such as Battlefield / Valorant / CS2 / COD / R6S leverage. There is a market in Southern Africa, a lot of players from areas like the Reunion Islands / Mauritius also leverage South African servers, and it's a good location to provide better access to Sub-Saharan Africa. The infrastructure exists and we have large games with servers here to prove it. Please consider players in Southern Africa. The infrastructure exists in South Africa (RSA), we have an AWS datacenter, Azure Datacenter, direct connections to the undersea cables which run to Europe.

[daring fossil]

this. and the amount of times I've jumped onto a moving platform and just fallen through the floor to my death or mantled on the side and then glitched off the side and fallen to my death

[quick coyote]

If you pay attention to most people here, a lot. They need all the counter play. So much they never die, ever.

[subtle tree]

Get swole.

[lunar fossil]

I win all the time solo queuing, much of the time with 2 lights and me as a medium w/ healing. Maybe its just you?

[fickle geyser]

even someone who enjoys playing light admitted it's likely to end it a higher lose rate
#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[proud thistle]

@quick coyote IMHO skins in store are quite expensive

[brittle harness]

To be honest i don't think the game will last with the current ranked implementation

[daring fossil]

im a light main, and I will play medium if there is another light on the team, but im at the point where I will just insta-quit and requeue if there is multiple lights on my team, or a light sniper because it's almost a gaurenteed loss. It's so bad that I started referring to running off on my own as "doing light stuff" because that's what 95% of light players do, run off on their own chasing kills, not helping the team and then die, and then they rage quit when they die 3-4 times in a row and you dont risk your life or run across the map to revive them.

[dusk forge]

MM still the last dogshit...thx

[lunar fossil]

dunno, me(medium) and 2 random lights dropped 52 in 3v3v3 today, they didn't have mics, I dropped 20 with 9 assists, light dropped 21/2 assists and other light dropped 11/4. I just try to play with what I have ie if I see they are playing as 1 playstyle I'll simply work with it. Ultimately you never know who you are going to battle with and playing to their strengths and being close to your teammates when they need you is key to this game. But yes as lights they are much faster than mediums so trying to keep up with them can be trying. Heavies are easy, just look at their weapon and you can figure out how to beat them.

[quick coyote]

I'm excited to see the game hit a new low in player count next week

[glacial knot]

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[fickle geyser]

this is why i suggested remove it for solo queue only, at least in premade teams you'll have some coordination
Just had a game where the light player ran off by themselves, then leaped to their death to avoid run fire

[junior lagoon]

This won't help, the issue is that the servers are too far away. It can only possibly help extremely marginally. It's impossible to get less than 150ms ping to the servers, but thank you

[lunar fossil]

this CAN be true, though I did win 1 game with a sniper once and his late game kill helped us win. It is rare though. But sometimes I get mediums that don't even know how to walk so....luck of the draw.

[daring fossil]

I've only ever played 1 game with a light sniper who was useful, out of over 1000 matches.

[thorny hill]

They allow too many cheaters and throwers soooo... yeah! player count going to drop!

[violet creek]

I agree for the most part, but some games it just feels like sometimes its unwinnable as a light player no matter the loadout. I like to think that lights are only as good as the enemy allows them to play. I've played against 3 stack MMM comps running recon, turret and healing beam with hyper meta loadouts and playing like they are being recruited into FAZE clan and need this QP dub to get scouted. Then I play another game where it feels like the enemy H player needed help in the morning to put on his velcro shoes. The best games I've had was when the enemy players are roughly your skill level and aren't capable of hitting 2 headshots in a row consistently, leading you to actually think on how to take him down since L advantage is dippin in and out of corners while the M is trying to line up his shots. I've stopped playing since my BP is done but when I felt frustrated running into coordinated HHM, HMM, MMM, etc comps, I just swap over to healgun M, pocket an H and proceed to wipe teams due to H having high DPS, FCAR being a super reliable weapon. M and H just feel like higher skill floor with equal skill ceiling in a lot of cases.

[daring fossil]

Mediums and heavies have a much lower skill floor than lights (heavies lower than mediums since they can team wipe in under 2 seconds with 3 button pushes). I would argue that the medium and heavies skill ceiling is just above the skill floor of a light.

[quick coyote]

I think we need to ramp up in game events, forget balance changes, I want to see a legion of the undead rise from the ground attacking all players on sight in the final two minutes of the game.

And expand the scope of alien invasion. More ships, more lasers, more chaos.

Let's have a tornado rip through the map and destroy buildings, toss players across the map, toss the objective.

Let's see a pirate ship or two show up in Moraco and level the fucking map.

If the game is gonna die let's get fucking wild before it does.

[violet creek]

Yeah. I might be confusing the terms but M and H just feel easier to play than L is what I was trying to say.

[hallow ruin]

My big suggestion, you can mark which point you dont agree with and why.
1.Light should have diffrent amount of damage against different clases, for example: against another light 100%(same as now) agaisnt medium(120% for example) against heavy 140% (for example), this way light would be more viable against other classes and it will balance out the insane ttk difference.
2. If a medium that has defibs is revived by another medium using defibs, both medium defibs should go on a cooldown(to get rid of chained revives)
3. If the person that is beeing healed by healing beam gets damaged by any type of damage, the healing should interrupt for about 1 second.
4. The healing beams shouldn't stack.
5. FCAR should get more damage dropoff, harder recoil, less base damage
6. AKM should get 28-30 rounds in mag not 36
7. Nothing should be able to get attached to a red barrel.
8. The turrets rate of fire should get slower by just a bit.
9. Glitch nades should detonate upon impact and have greater radius.
10. Light should get jumpads and ziplines to be team's main maneuverability source.
11. There should be none invincibility frames after a revive.
12. Lewis gun needs more damage drop off, harder recoil.
13. If some1 gets stunned by a stun gun, the rate of fire of that person should be slower, but stun lasts for 1.7-2 seconds
14. Throwing knives should have a faster fire rate, and it should be possible to hold right click ready.
15. Dash should recharge after 5 seconds, not 6
16. The heavys shotgun should have slower fire rate
17. Heavy should get an APS turret
18. Mediums grandade launcher should deal 100 base damage, not 110 and fire rate should be a bit slower
19. The Lights Sniper has no deal existing in such a team based, fast paced game as The Finals. It is a nightmare for teammates if their teammate is somewhere on the other side of the map, and it is unfair that other players sometimes have nothing to even deal with him.
20. Light should get a stim that heals for 100hp.

[keen lily]

this game fucking sucks cant hti plat in solo q for days now due to bronze teammates

[vital obsidian]

are u by any chance a light player?

[thorny hill]

sniper is a specific style of play! you have to open up the cashout walls for them to see - you have to help them so they can help you! If you expect them to carry, without cheating, they wont!

[daring fossil]

I agree with a few of these, but disagree with everything else. lights don't need jump pads and zip lines, lights can get around on their own, mediums need them to help them and heavies get around. Lights don't need a stim, they need their health regen timer cut in half. a person being healed taking damage should not affect the healing beam at all, maybe the person doing the healing should be interrupted if they take damage. the stun lowering the rate of fire makes zero sense. Stun is fine the way it is now, maybe just a slightly shorter stun time if anything. Healing beams should stack, they heal so fucking slow now as it is. 0.75 seconds of i-frames after a res is literally nothing, the I-frames are gone before you can humanly react to it. I agree that the fcar needs to be nerfed, the AKM not so much, why would you pick an AKM over FCAR if it had a smaller mag?

@thorny hill i play medium if there is a light on my team, how do you expect me to open up walls? I don't expect them to carry, I expect them to help their team, and 99% of the time they don't. I have literally spectated multiple snipers camping roof tops and cranes, shooting at dudes storming the cashout while it's being stolen by the other team and the rest of the team is dead. They won't leave from their spot for ANY reason unless they are forced off by an enemy player.

[icy tendon]

Great game

[hallow ruin]

My suggestions are just to make light better for the team
My idea is to distribute some of the team based utility that Medium has to Light and heavy
Cause right now Medium can do any job effectively, thats why he is meta
The sniper getting deleted from the game will fix a lot, cause again - some teams dont even have sruff to deal with the sniper, and flr the sniper team he gives no value.
Other changes are just to decrease the insane ttk gap between light and other clases.

[keen lily]

LIKE WTF ARE THOSE TEAMS, EVERYTIME IM ABOUT TO HIT PLAT SOLO QUEUEING I GET SOME FUCKING VEGETABLES xd apex is better

[thorny hill]

Okay so their are RED canisters for one - you can explosive mine for two... you can also fire barrel ... That said, there are some bad snipers... but they should stay perched most of the time... play slow so they can engage... ALL lights, which I HATE playing with, are either a liability or a huge factor... if they play with the team and the team plays with them they are a huge help! If everyone plays solo it is not a help and you WILL lose! Doesnt matter if sniper or if dagger, or sword or SH or v95... it doesnt matter! if they play solo you will lose! if you teamplay, you have as good a shot as any other team!

[daring fossil]

I see lots of people saying light need more team utility, but they don't. Lights excel at transporting the vault to the cashout, and protecting the cashout from being stolen and able to rotate and gain high ground/different angles quickly and being able to grab totems and escape to revive (something 99% of lights don't do) People say they need team utility because they are useless to helping the team, but this is just false and info coming from people who are shit at playing light, or people who don't play light and just get team mates who are shit at playing light. I main grapple, LH1, breach charge, frag and stun (which I always forget I have, and rarely use) and I carry my teams very often. The problem with lights is they have a very high skill floor and an even higher skill ceiling. Most people play them cuz they are the most fun class (until they die 10 times in a row being useless), but most people also just suck at playing them properly, and the problem with most peoples suggestions is that if they are loud enough, Embark will actually make stupid changes and ruin the class for people who are actually good with it.

@thorny hill exactly, and all light snipers play by themselves and just try to get kills, they are not helpful 99.9% of the time, and not all lights are a liability, I've played with lots of good lights, and I like to think I'm better than most with light (but I have 600+ hours as a light since alpha)

[lilac vigil]

Hi! One thing i would love is that if you enter a game as fill-in you get bonus XP at the end of the match! Many times when i get those matches i only get to play a short time before the match ends or i join a empty team/team with lots of leavers so winning is almost impossible.

I think a bonus would decrease re-fills leaving the match and having full teams is way more fun playing with/against.

[cloud vale]

Dear devs, please make the matchmaking based on win rate or kills, because i cant play anymore with randoms that end the match 1/15

[hallow ruin]

Having such a high skill floor is not good for a game with just 3 classes tho

[atomic ledge]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ffyc3784wx7kc1.jpeg

This game needs an 'Override FOV while aiming down sights' option

[hexed fjord]

ADS is a very anti-fun gadget by 100% negating nade launchers

[daring fossil]

it's not really 3 classes though, each contestant has dozens of loadout variations.

@hexed fjord and I will counter by saying grenade launchers are a very anti-fun thing to play against.

[thorny hill]

my dude - a light that plays solo is a liability! I play sniper and have more rez than anyone else! Tell me why! Also, I dont main L, I main M with heavy as backup... I just L whenever I have to play with an L beucase they NEVER play with the team!

[quick dew]

if a teammate joins late in ranked, instead of having to waste a token their figurine should just randomly appear within like 50m of the current players in the game. Or even just make it go to where the team spawns in.

[spare cape]

We need haptic/adaptive trigger support for ps5 ❗️❗️❗️ hopefully by next season 🙏🏾 please add this make the game feel way more polished and for it to feel like a true next gen title I love this game sm and all I want is haptics/adaptive trigger support for ps5 ❗️

[viscid owl]

okay so I just sprint slid through the crack in the floor and ended up downstairs in the hallway
no lag, just staight slidin
btw I lost the game in order to get this screenshot

[spark girder]

Light excels at transporting the vault to the cashout is the only thing that isn’t complete bs from your wall of text.

You literally sound like every light player on launch talking about how light is actually really good people just haven’t come close to hitting the skill ceiling with them.

Ya ok. Wrong then and wrong now.

[urban patrol]

I'm begging from the bottom of my heart to make the snipers do more damage

[mossy mortar]

This is more of an issue with easy anticheat but im sure there's a solution. For some reason my computer just restarts randomly when booting into the game or after running it for like 30+ minutes and I have no idea why

[daring fossil]

a light that plays solo is a liability yes, but not all lights like you previously said. most light players are just shit at playing light, which is why I quit when there is more than one on my team, or a sniper. 95% of them just play the class because of the mobility, but don't understand anything else about them. It's funny that you're defending snipers which are the worst breed of lights, but then go on to say that all lights never play with their team and are a liability, which is just factually incorrect, because I'm a light main, and I constantly carry my teams, and I've played with plenty of good lights (but only 1 helpful sniper).

@spark girder if you actually provided counter-arguments, I would humor you. But saying im wrong cuz you said so doesn't make me wrong.

[quick coyote]

Lights don't excel at any of that. They don't have a high skill floor or ceiling. They are just bad. Medium or heavy can fulfil all those roles better.

[spark girder]

Burden of proof is on the dude trying to say light is bad because people don’t play it properly

General consensus is light is bad because it does nothing a medium and heavy can’t do better.

Light is almost no useful utility, double the effort and risk in exchange for kills that get undone effortlessly.

(Lights are bad posting a scoreboard is an amazingly poor argument)

[daring fossil]

@spark girder im totally wrong 👍 lights are just a shit class, for sure. definitely not just a class that nobody understands how to play effectively. I never said lights are bad btw, I said most people are shit at playing them, 2 completely different statements. If lights were bad, I wouldn't main one. no useful utility, again cuz you said so. Posting scoreboards of me kicking ass and winning (even 2v3v3) is a better argument than you saying "you're wrong cuz I said so"

[clever idol]

oh god not the "light bad" argument again
ok just because someone plays a gamemode you see as "lesser" or "not competitive" doesn't mean that their opinion is invalid
also AD HOMINEM!!!

[calm crystal]

Cool but at the same time an average of 10-13 kills isn’t “kicking ass” it’s doing pretty good. Lights could use a small buff that lets you capitalize more on damaged enemy’s. In my opinion a 75% to their heal delay would be sufficient.
However lights are still strong, have great utility. Weapons are balanced, so is utility, the agent just has too little survivability. Lights arnt horrible they just arnt up to par. A small change is enough to push them into viability

[spark girder]

Quick cash champion here everyone.

Even if scoreboards were a reliable measure of anything in this game, there are some horrible stats to be proud of mixed in.

You see no lights at the highest levels of play which completely goes against your argument.

People far better both in aim skill and tactics than you or I don’t bother playing light when playing the game to win at a high level.

I assure you you haven’t figured out something that the rest of us haven’t about light. What an insane ego.

[daring fossil]

considering most of these the enemy team didn't have any cashouts... kills would be higher if the game dragged on more. I agree that they need some work, but they aren't bad by any means. The health regen cooldown cut in half at least I have been arguing for for weeks.

@spark girder holy shit 1 actual argument, congrats, and it doesn't even go against my argument, it actually confirms my argument that people just don't know how to play lights, especially at high level. There are a few people at top level playing lights. well I must have figured something out that YOU haven't since you think lights are bad. The only thing that makes lights bad at high level is they die by being sneezed on, so of course they aren't picked for that reason alone. that doesn't make them bad in general.

[quick coyote]

Dude these are all unranked, they mean nothing, anyone can dunk on casuals

[tough merlin]

your going to get random ql matches in unranked play lol. and you're going to find "bad" lights at a low rank, cause everyone is bad at a low rank. and its unranked people aren't playing to win, they're playing for fun.

[calm crystal]

I agree. Kills arnt that important if you win but it’s not a great benchmark either way. I agree fully that they need work but they don’t need a full rework. They do require more team play and better util usage but if used correctly they can do damage, just not enough to get that kill or prevent that steal, since they are made of glass. If they are just mare a bit more survivable

[daring fossil]

casual has a MUCH bigger player base, with more class variety and less boring meta. ranked means nothing because bronze are literally matched against diamonds and climbing only requires time sink.

@tough merlin there's plenty of people who play QP to win. look at the games I posted where every team had a cash out.

@quick coyote I had a win with 2 cashouts in a row (the other teams had no cashouts) and we had 2 kills as a team

[quick coyote]

Understanding that kills are ultimately meaningless in The Finals is the breakthrough knowledge into platinum. It always pisses me off seeing people speak like this game is call of duty in launch feedback

[jaunty pawn]

That not true, kills 100% matter. Team wipes are serious business.

[thorny hill]

If you "carry a team" and can 1 v 3 then you are playing against the WRONG rank. If you are playing in the proper rank than 1 v 3 is not going to happen, you will lose 10 out of 10 times!

[tough merlin]

Ranked in any game is a time sink my dude. This game is easier to climb in then most but it all comes down to time. as for quickcash, people definitely don't take it seriously. half your complaints can probably be chalked up to random light bringing sniper into quickcash where it doesn't matter to practice it so he can take it in where it does matter (example but applies to literally anything). or running off tdming cause its quickcash and not ranked so losing literally doesn't matter. If you want slightly better quality games ranked is typically better. More coms, less one man armies ect. more so the higher you climb.

Also altho the ranked in this game definitely has a wide spread diamonds with bronzes is rare unless the diamond is queing with them. most of the time the ranks are within a division-division in half in my experience. (which is still wide imo)

@jaunty pawn tbf the people you are replying to are playing quickcash where team wipes have very little impact cause theres no team play around tokens or loss of money on a wipe. They still matter just way WAY less in that mode.

[quick coyote]

Team wipes are a viable strategy, and I’m not discrediting them. That being said, wiping teams alone will never win you a game—securing the cashout will. I’m sure you understand my point

[calm crystal]

My meaning is your kills at the end of the game isn’t an accurate description of your preformamce. Of course kills themselves matter, but just because you don’t end the match with 20 kills doesn’t mean you didn’t do well, esp where ttk is so high and chip damage is so important. Not to mention the objective trumping all

[quick coyote]

Also 75% of casual players are trash. You might as well show clips of yourself clubbing baby seals 👏

[thorny parcel]

Please remove Melee weapon auto aim Embark. Lost to a Heavy shotgun user with Sledgehammer because my hammer decided to spin me to someone else when doing my combo 😭 . I already have a small combo execution window to out dps Shotgun stop making it worse 😭

[clever idol]

(or atleast make it a setting)

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[open summit]

The only thing I would change in light is glitch grenades, they honestly not that good and a whole ass mesh shield stops them

[severe mason]

Okay so when are you going to put skins for the FCAR???

[calm crystal]

faster detonation and bigger radius as a nice counters for mesh shield, super powerful for cashouts though if they are rigged

[deft wing]

People still asking for keyboard and mouse and input based matchmaking for consoles, have been since MnK was removed. Please, Embark, let us love your game.

[formal musk]

^true

[strong escarp]

C4 will still be a must-have Heavy gadget, even after nukes are completely gone. It has unparalleled levels of utility as a trap tool, breach tool, and makeshift grenade, making mines and actual grenades redundant in a Heavy loadout.

Only way to resolve this issue is to reduce C4's charge count (and max # deployed) from 2 to 1.

[tropic swift]

You're partially right with people being absolutely garbage at playing light in terms of leading to victory, but lights don't have a spot to fill in the current meta as mediums or heavies. I play a lot of light in ranked, and it's tough to be a good light player. Not blaming entirely on the class itself for me being shit with light, but it deserves a spot in the meta more than it is now.

[thorny hill]

literally 50 points from plat and then I get paired with HARD throwers 5 games in a row! come on dev's you can do better than this!!!

[gritty nimbus]

so nukes are still fun, huh?

[graceful rampart]

day 2 of asking for a teammate text chat

[quick coyote]

Seriously though. They need to just open their laptops, highlights the melee AA code, delete, Ctrl+s, then reboot the servers. Shit sucks.

[karmic moss]

We need the team chat option. For a team based game it is crucial

[drifting pawn]

uhoh. just got my first angel script crash in a few months after figuring out the fix. hope something didnt get busted in this update

[teal pike]

Perhaps make the announcer voice lines a bit more focused on what is happening on the game? Most of the voice lines only talk about events like starting or stealing a cashout, a team getting wiped and respawning and the event announcements, before being followed by a cheesy joke related to the team in question's name.
I understand the popular idea of making the announcers mention the players' names might not be viable due to people with not very pg-13 names but perhaps mention situations involving what is going on around the map?

[high drift]

Legit don't think there's anyway to balance the turrets, they legit just need straight up removed

[supple tiger]

Just want to start this off by saying I absolutely LOVE this game with all my heart and want it to succeed alongside other games. I've basically dropped all other games and have been only playing this ever since it dropped. Even when it was in beta I couldn't wait for the game to come back so I could keep playing, it's just so special and unique. I've finally managed to compile many of the things I've been wanting to share simply and this is all in my opinion that I just wanted to share. This is coming from over 350 hours of gameplay and grinding ranked and talking to other high-ranked players. I also put in over 80 hours on the previous two betas.

[Balance Changes]

• In ranked I believe we should be able to change our loadout like you can in unranked but at the cost of a revive token I feel that it would add some much-needed counter-play and depth to this game. I usually end up having at least 3 to 5 tokens and at the end of a tournament, I believe it could give it another reason to be used.
• Lights very much need some sort of re-work. You rarely see lights in high-end lobbies and for good reason. I'm not the type to whine about lights but the fact is that they just aren't really viable if you're trying to win. They are really fun to play but they're just so easy to kill and they don't have anything to justify that sort of health. The only real utility a light has is the stun gun and glitch grenade but is that really worth replacing say another medium healer? or another heavy that can just melt players and shield people? I just think that Lights need something to give them a reason to be brought on a team other than being high DPS. Some form of gadget.
• In ranked, losing round one causes a massive penalty up to -100 FP, which really hurts. But what hurts more is when you lose because a teammate either just quit or crashed and isn't able to reconnect but you still suffer the same penalty. This is a massive problem in solo queues. So my suggestion is to lessen the penalty by at least 33.33% (that's 1/3%)
• Another thing in ranked that is pretty rough right now is the MMR system, it doesn't work at all. I on multiple occasions have been queued against Bronze players as a Diamond 1 player, how does that make sense? It's not fair for lower-rank players and could cause them to not want to play anymore if they see that they got destroyed by a Diamond. This goes the same for solo queue, I've gotten Bronze teammates before, it's wild. We need a much tighter matching system.
• On the topic of ranked, I also think we should have more ranks sort of how Rainbow Six does it. It would make it much more accurate to judge someone's skill level this way. I've seen some pretty bad Diamond players before.

- [Bugs] 

• The moving platforms sometimes straight up get you killed with how buggy their physics is. Sometimes you jump on it and just teleport through it and die, especially in Seoul. It's so inconsistent, it's pretty frustrating sometimes. Another thing with them is that when you're trying to place mine or C4 on the cashout, they slide for a while and THEN stop. It's really weird and annoying. I really love the idea of those moving platforms but they need polishing.
• There is a bug that exists that makes it so you can't do anything like shoot or throw gadgets and can be really devastating, especially in the final round. This has happened to me so many times and I don't understand it. It really needs to be fixed, it has been in the game since the betas.

[Misc]

• Something that I think would be really cool and would add a lot more variety to customizing your contestants would be the ability to equip two body paints at the same time as long as they wouldn't overlap. An example would be Foxy Footing ||(makes your arms black)|| and Active Ambush ||(makes your face grey)||. It's something I'd really like to see!

[calm crystal]

Lights need something to give them a reason to be brought on a team other than being high DPS. Some form of gadget.
Yes. They have that, they are crazy at getting info, its just that info isnt too helpful. In my opinion if they can die a bit harder that would be enough
We need a much tighter matching system.
I agree, however with the current player base size i dont think this is possible. Queue times even now are 7-10 minutes in NA
It would make it much more accurate to judge someone's skill level this way.

[clever plank]

I think basic tdm would be cool.

[tropic swift]

I hope sbmm is only applied for ranked with this

[open moat]

7-10 minute queues? maybe at 4 am. I get a solid 2 minute q time in ranked and lower in casual

[supple tiger]

Yes. They have that, they are crazy at getting info, it's just that info isn't too helpful. In my opinion, if they can die a bit harder that would be enough

Yeah, I agree somewhat. I agree that they just need to be a little harder to kill, it would make them much more favorable and the fact that they can grab intel is also really good but I still personally think they should be given something even if small

I agree, however with the current player base size I don't think this is possible. Queue times even now are 7-10 minutes in NA

That is a very fair point and I agree but I'm just saying this in general, I'm speaking for the future of the game assuming this game begins to climb in popularity again in Season 2, it has been said they are going to start advertising this game much more in S2.
there were many many more things I wanted to say in a more informative manner but that message is exactly the character maximum lol, I even bought nitro just now to be able to write more in one message lmao

also doubling this message to add one more thing I wanted to say because I don't want to wait another 15 minutes to post it lol

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[Misc (continued)]

• Something small that would benefit those who don't use voice chat would be the simple addition of a "sorry" voice line. Sometimes you really screw up or throw something and you gotta own up to it 🥲

[thorny socket]

shoot through it too

[drifting pawn]

AngelScript crash again, both times at the end of the match when showing me the results and I hit continue to get back to the main menu

[loud wind]

the only thing I don't like is how I can not fight my friends in a solo match so make a sandbox or something please.

[rancid bramble]

game is good

[pure cedar]

<@&1012034066876473384> what is this?, shooting while invisible

[rose surge]

buff lights

[clever plank]

Nice pfp

[gaunt bay]

more account or battlepass levels please 🙏 i enjoyed doing contracts but theres no point to them anymore. if thats not possible maybe some sort of overflow system or prestige mode would work as well.

[quick coyote]

last 60 seconds mean nothing way too many games imo

[weary rapids]

loosen up on abandoning

[analog oracle]

Spamming to become contestant, dont mind me!

[fading plume]

That's #1201841543926005810 not community managers

[clever plank]

What's contestant

[weary rapids]

We NEED more game modes

[frank oracle]

[thin depot]

The rotating event game modes is an awesome system; maybe just one or two more basic ones permanently and have events like Steal the Spotlight come and go

[vale tendon]

GUNS IDEA
I have an idea for the game, since we already bought everything in the weapons store and the vrs is no longer useful, I propose an idea to spend the vrs on xp for the weapons, that is, unlock weapon skins with the vrs since the vrs in a future will stop being useful since we bought everything, in fact I already have everything and the vrs is of no use to me, so I propose that the vrs can be spent on weapon xp and also an idea of ​​adding a new weapon, a crossbow for the character with agility with great damage, the crossbow takes a long time to reload, and a simple bow for the medium one that shoots arrows with a normal speed and takes damage depending on how long I left it stretching the arrow, it will do more damage, for the big guy a new rocket but it is a cannon and it takes too long to reload but it makes everything explode and it can make holes in buildings or houses

[calm crystal]

#💣┇weapons-gadgets

[upper cedar]

I know this is not about the game itself, but really I bet I am not the first one to ask for The Finals merch...

[thorny hill]

here are some more cheaters!
VinyFuzzball195#5616
BusinessTrooper#0972
aloneinjapan#8128
Like the obvious cheating is just crazy!!!

[covert dagger]

invisitcrutching is so out of hand

[stable hare]

hi im having a game issue now, im always being kicked out of the server

[calm crystal]

they are not cheeating they just are hitting only head shots with the xp-59 from 100 meters away, duh

[white sky]

nerf shotgun on heavy since it doesnot have time to kill
only 2 hits and kills light with 0,5 seconds
4 hits to kill medium about 1-2sec

[burnt meteor]

four big skyscrapers that if you destroy the base it collapses into a chaotic mess of rubble

[hallow ruin]

Actually it kills light in 0.26 seconds

[spice creek]

Goo gun sledge is stupid. That is all. Game ruined.

[clear nova]

just won a ranked tournament and it said we gained 655 fame points but when we get back to the lobby we gained zero!! trying to get to diamond before the season ends. gonna be hard when it doesnt even reward you for winning!! anyone know a fix?

[radiant jay]

w gam needs improvment for casual players

[merry sparrow]

me and my homie taylor have been enjoying the game a lot

[rocky prawn]

can anyone give me a tip to counter to heavy main .they seem overpowered

[hallow ruin]

U never get a fair fight with him

[rocky prawn]

who?

[calm crystal]

dont take 1x1, only fight when you have an advantage. maybe positioning, utility, or you get the jump. they slow so move around (moving doesnt decrease accuracy) , and duck between cover and new angles to deal damage before they can deal a proportional amount to you. with medium they are not too hard to contest, doing it with light requires playing smart

[river girder]

I always chucked a Pyro nade on them and a full clip to kill em as a light

[upper cedar]

Well, if a heavy main gets to you close-range you are pretty much screwed. You should try to attack heavies from long or mid range and use their flaws against them. A heavy moves slow and their weapons are bad at long distances. You could use that against them by baiting them to shoot you and then attacking when they reload or forcing them out of their position. Poison barrels are great for that. You can deal a lot of damage to them (heavies) with those and when they try to flee you can shoot. 350 hp seems much, but it is not when you constantly hit them so that they do not heal (this goes for their shields too). There are two things that can screw you in this strategy tho. Their rocket louncher and nukes. Nukes can be blocked with goo barels (which really are a bless for a medium or light). If they chase you in confined spaces, you should try to pair the goo grenade with the piro grenade. Get them stuck in goo and then burn them. No sane heavy main would push with that much hp lost. In the end, it is important to know how to pick your fights. The winners are the ones with the most money banked/ cashed out, not the ones with the best k/d.

[subtle tree]

First time since REWASD update, I played against 2 hackers. Both 22 kills, same team, other guy on their team 0 kills, doing nothing. Cross map headshots with the SCAR, felt like the good ol' REWASD days. Hope you guys are on the ban hammer.

[mild pond]

would be cool if in practice mode, similar to how you can raise or lower the yellow barriers by shooting them, you could also shoot the little thing that lets you change your loadout rather than having to run all the way over to it

[white sky]

Balanced gun

[errant flame]

DAY 9️⃣ since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 2, if not 3 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[rocky prawn]

@calm crystal thanks for ur suggestion i will do that .they just one shot me .maybe now will fight them from distance .I tried mideum with a sniper chouldnt damage much and die more. But with light i seems to die less and get more kill

[calm crystal]

different builds work for different people if light works for you then play light. thats what makes the game fun, theres no right build only builds that are right for you (except in ranked where uh medium)

[ancient hare]

__Suggestions: __

● Fix nukes for good: Further reduce (or remove) C4/mine damage to players when attached to throwables.

● Make throwables fun again: (after fixing nukes) revert the changes that make attachments add extra weight to throwables and reduce their trajectory

● Fix defib spam: add an interruption to the defib ability when taking damage

● Fix turret spam: make shooting turrets temporarily disable them.

● (Properly) Nerf Recon: Remove toggle. like heavy's "Charge 'n' Slam". Promotes smarter use.

● Increase Light utility: Consider adding more charges to dash and grapple. Give lights a way to automatically provide useful information to their team during gameplay. example: shooting enemies marks them

● Add more accessible ways to destroy floating platforms on Monaco

● Add more (interesting) stuff to grind! Example: Give us the ability to choose "Sponsors" that award us with themed cosmetics through an XP system

● Give me (just me) 1 million multibucks for free

[rocky prawn]

@errant flame Good tips it does boost my confidence . I actually hasn't tried heavy main it look to big to me and its seems slow.

@calm crystal Is medium bad in rank? Do you play in Asia server? Can we play together?

And what's up with the fifteen cool down in this chat. 🐸

[fallow basin]

Nukes need a damage reduction. The game crash to often by one of my friend nearly every round from the first 5 rounds he play the game crash’s I also got a crash every 3-5 game and a another Friend played ranked was in the final round got an crash and lost 600 points as punishment and lost 600 points by not getting them

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[calm crystal]

medium is the best class in that game in terms of versatility, and overall damage output. I play NA 😦 . This is for suggestions so there's a long cool down

[cosmic pewter]

Is this the preferred way to send feedback? Or is there an email.

[final slate]

you should get bonus xp or vrs for being backfill in games

[timber dove]

On god automatics need a smaller magazine size

[river girder]

No way, you miss a quarter of a clip and ur done

[timber dove]

I watch my teammates get into potato wars, miss half their shots and still get the kill before having to reload, it's crazy to watch.

[lilac vigil]

Bruh why making heavy stronger and nerfing light? 😭

[rough acorn]

Day: 1️⃣ of asking @errant flame to stop nonsense yapping!

[errant flame]

Day: 1️⃣ of asking @rough acorn to stop getting butthurt.

[silver forge]

Dude please give it up 😭 nobody is taking you seriously

[rocky prawn]

@calm crystal oh okay you play in NA didn't see that

[upbeat urchin]

I think we can all agree that the light sniper needs a buff, but not so a damage buff imo, but I would take increased damage against heavy shield, bubble shield, turrets (utility in general), or slightly increased fire rate. How would you guys change it? (in a reasonable way ofc)

[edgy vapor]

Great game just some of the prices of the skins are really high like the contam conture set at 1,850 for 9 items then the draco star for 1,600 whith the draco star having one more objects and the urban operative for 2,200 whith the same amount as the Draco but for 6 € more

[subtle oak]

Will Recon Sense please be removed next season? Its literally playing on easy mode with wallhacks

[daring ravine]

Add keyboard and mouse support to consoles please

[calm crystal]

make anyone who selects it banned

[rough acorn]

Aight my bad twin damn

[frank zenith]

i keep getting "login failed due to a service interruption" fatal error message pop up everytime i try to start the game, what is going on? i have uninstalled, reinstalled, verifyed game files, i have run as administrator but nothing is working. is it the game or me?

[golden otter]

Would be awesome if the light class would recover health a little faster in general and in comparison to other classes

[distant wing]

Please make it so the stats in the Steam User Stats Api continously track and don't stop after reaching the Achivement threshold. (And maybe add Kills, Deaths etc.)
Would allow us to at least track the stats of Steam users if you don't provide a way to track stats right now.

[daring fossil]

please for the love of god make the hipfire on the LH1 and the revolver actually useful

[versed kindle]

Please make the fucking sniper do more damage but make it a little less easier to handle to balance it out. I’m tired of sniping someone and having it do 1/3 of their health a point blank. All I’m saying is that a sniper, 50 cal or not, should do more damage.

[lapis pollen]

Meta looks like goat and even worse. Imagine caustics+goat+76, it's nightmare

[steel tinsel]

Season 2 in update 2.0 will be BIG AS HELL, bc Embark needs it to be, so patience, and lets hope for the best. I think all people here is being listened to. And if not, it has been fun

[prime atlas]

Please make a Region Lock for China, i am so done with this china player using cheats. Please embark, learn from PUBG and, if u see Super People. Its Dead Game because they cant ban lot of cheater from china and everyone upset and leave the game. PLEASE EMBARK, always meet cheater on china nickname everyday on ASIA server. 🙇‍♂️

[covert moat]

All the competitive players want is for the ranked matchmaking to be fixed. Solo queue in this game is the worst i’ve ever seen before. I hardly ever get another Diamond or Platinum on my team, it’s always Bronze & Silvers. I will go 10-0 with 5k Objective Score and we still lose. It’s so frustrating to be deducted FP due to things out of your control. If you’re not going to bother fixing the matchmaking, then at least make FP mainly dependent on individual contributions to the game instead of all or nothing. It’s a more accurate representation of your skill level as a player too.

[pseudo latch]

Day six of me begging the devs to give heavy a KS23 Four-gauge shotgun

[shy fjord]

get rid of the stupid gimicks like low gravity and meteors

[lapis pollen]

In fact, region lock wont change anything. All chinese player use vpn.
It will cause more server burden. (You might know there is GFW in china, and seems The finals didnt be blocked.)

I do hate the chinese hacker, but its not the solution.

[mild pond]

allow for multiple binds on one button or add an option to change interact to square / X on console, I keep getting stuck on ziplines when trying to swap weapons

[prime atlas]

need to learn with Valorant about Region Lock. we cant use vpn to move other region on valorant.

[sinful vessel]

friendly reminder that we cant move the cannons ingame

[shy fjord]

make it so you can destroy the elevators 😦 that shits mad annoying to deal with when they got a turret and aps turret

[lapis pollen]

Nah, they still can play valorant in asia server.

You can ask southeast asia players. There is many normal chinese players and chinese hackers.

If you feel there is less hackers in valorant, it's because their anti-cheat work much well than EAC.

[gentle lichen]

Please nerf the turrets and mines, it makes it nearly impossible to steal the cash out with it surrounded by turrets and mines

[valid quarry]

Plz buff throwing knives, more accurate while moving would be huge, as a light im a sitting duck waiting for those things to charge and the range is horrible, maybe a little quicker, and let us charge up the alt fire 🙌

[topaz swallow]

In the next season, change ranked to reward skilled players and boost them into higher ranks, there should be no world where sub par players can get to plat+ by just playing the game too damn much and getting lucky. I've been getting gold and plat+ players every single day i play that do literally nothing the whole match, im out here 1v3v3v3'ing. It's ridiculus.
Im so sick and tired of games nowadays having absurdly long and grindy ranked systems in their games just for the single purpose of artificially inflating player retention and player numbers. If a player is skilled: they should be put in a rank of their skill. In what mad hellscape of a world do you think a spiritual Diamond player should have to grind for 200 HOURS+ from Bronze 5 to get to their intended rank. Please for the love of ikea and meatballs fix the ranked system, it does NOT display skill of any player, it displays playtime.

[golden otter]

Would be great if you could turn off hud on ps5. I think there is no option for that rn?

[viscid owl]

oh idk about that

[fading light]

i believe light is such a difficult build to play as it is having a weapon like the throwing knives that REQUIRES amazing precision and not removing all bloom is overkill.....However (as im sure you know seeing as you still use them) the throwing knives do SIGNIFICANTLY more damage than most of the community realizes at this time so making them a perfect accuracy projectile with no bloom risks making it down right Over powered in some peoples hands and just frustrating to play against for everyone else.... that being said if they give the weapon perfect accuracy ( as a weapon of this kind requires to be consistently effective so they should) they need to either A) balance the damage difference between the primary and secondary fire so there is less volitility in the dps but alo less reliance on the big secondary fire headshot or B) keep the dps the same but make the projectile slower and still difficult to land despite the bloom removal. or finally C) let the throwing knives be destroyed by trophy systems like the grenade launcher shot

[calm anvil]

please add quest from tarkov, PLEASE, I'm need this.

[craggy stream]

Dead game

[analog violet]

it would be cool if you guys add the C.N.S skin bundle to the game since you guys keep teasing us of their existances

[fading light]

I will be copy pasting this request 3 times a day until i get a response from embark with specifics on this well thought through approach to balance to avoid as much frustration for the players while keeping fun niche things strong for newcomers to have a way to overcome the learning curve acting as a barrier to entry(ATTEMPT#1)I have all the faith in the world Embark wants this to be a good game just as much as everyone else and they seem to understand having a "fun" game and having a "Balanced" game are not always 2 in the same and they seem to be striving to be the first game in history that does both without becoming a sweat fest that requires hundreds of hours and knowledge simply to enjoy...Embark as a good heartled loving fan of the finals im on this ship until it crashes no matter what decisions you make but i have one request...remember how you got here...the game is great because of the over powered niche stuff, as of now it appears your plan of balancing involves looking at how often things are used by the playerbase and nerfing numbers on items to make them harder to use...although this is a great starting point and i belive to be indicitave of you as a team having the right intentions it has backfired...the recon nerf changed nothing about what was frusturating. If some guy that has only played call of duty for 5 years runs recon he can still ignore objective and chase me for far to long while having my precise location, the "full map knowledge" was the weakest strength recon brought to the table and had nothing to do with what was wrong with the ability...you guys have formulated a game that is perfect by doing 2 MAJOR THINGS that no other game has done...1.)Embrace the OP Shit and give it to everyone and 2.)everything thats OP is easily countered.In conclusion...Nerfs that don't remove frustrations only hurt the game for everyone instead of this approach buff something thats seemingly "useless" by making it hard counter a problem item PLS DM 4 DETAILS

[valid quarry]

not even accuracy like that, just make it better while moving and make it quicker to throw, also the alt fire charge is nice yeah but it is so so so slow. Regular throw is good too, but again slow asffff. Half the time my alt fire doesnt hit unless im standing still. and atp im dead because of how much health i have

[livid spear]

How can you swap weapons😂

[mild pond]

I press triangle to swap back to my main weapon. If I’m using any piece of equipment near a zipline or anything I can interact with, that interaction takes priority over swapping to my gun which gets me killed quite often now

[lofty crypt]

More Fcar Skins !!

[livid spear]

Why does No different reload animation work on the AKM

[stoic cosmos]

TDM mode, let just kill without cashout vaults nonsense

[calm anvil]

MORE !!!

[viral pulsar]

I just wanted to say and this is obvious to people who are paying attention
This is a TEAM BASED GAME

Unfortunately that means that SOLO players are typically at a disadvantage

Its also obvious when i say this but if you are outnumbered in any way shape or form, as a casual player you are typically screwed

All of these problems stem from the game being a NERF DART WAR
These weapons take on average 40-60% of your weapons mag to kill someone unless they are light

Every weapon in this game could stand to get a 20-30% damage buff across the board- to open the gameplay to people who play solo

I dont expect any of these changes anytime soon even if they are considered

But for season 2 at leas give us a game mode where this is a reality

Make a Mega damage game mode, but make the damage buff apply to player damage as well

Fuck

Make a limited time Hardcore game mode to prove me wrong

[lofty crypt]

MOREEEE

[digital snow]

Can we finally get rid of nukes? It's been nerfed a little but when jumping before throwing and aiming a little higher it still flies far and in CQB it's still a free kill or at least 200 dmg. The heavy already has and RPG which gives him an easy 100+ dmg. https://m.twitch.tv/clip/VivaciousMoldyVanillaDBstyle-ZFNXW9uQqBNPaXIC

[bronze hemlock]

i am fuckin fed up with the game. the cheaters, the fucking matchmaking, i wanna cry

[daring fossil]

I just had an obvious cheater in QP too, 23 and 3, his first team disconnected after specing him but his backfills wouldn't

[last harness]

It would mean the world if you would have melee weapons bring status buffs or nerfs to enemies so there be a need for them. Like a ton of people find dagger weak because it does 50 DMG, but we could buff it with poison effects so initially it does 50 but over time it can do 70-75 to counter healing against melee. What if riot shield would disable people from moving, making up for it's very slow swinging or buffing defense of surrounding teammates when you attack someone for the next 3 secs or smt. With the sword you're tended to use up 2, if not all 3 of your dashes. You could give speed boosts to sword after successful hits for a second or give ability recharge increase. I personally just feel if you were you to add these there would be a point to close the distance and not switch to a gun all of time or carry a stun gun through every game. Thank you for reading this text wall.

[spark girder]

So you recognize this game is built to be team-based, yet you want to change the damage to undermine all of that so solo players can ignore their team?

Play CoD

[olive epoch]

Before the 1.7 update you had to look down when you wanted to take the barrel back. now I can't pick up the weapon anymore because both happen from the same button (PS 5)
And can we get 120hz on ps5 too 😄

[calm anvil]

Please EMBARK, add quest from tarkov please, i'm need this

[sudden tangle]

<@&1012034066876473384> is there any word from the devs on balancing L in competitive mode?

[daring fossil]

nerf the medium grenade launcher, it's so fucking brainless just jump around and spam it in the general direction, literally the worst thing to play against besides recon sense, and they can be paired together so there's no escaping it, so fucking toxic.

[analog violet]

I am tired of people getting mad on quick cash when you are trying to hunt easter Egg I suggest you add custome private lobby or something so we can easter egg with ease or for those who wants 1v1 I guess..

[viral pulsar]

I’m saying at least give it an Event as a test; it would show it as a proof of concept, additionally I think having a TDM game mode would benefit The Finals because it would filter out all the people who play TDM in quick cash…

[subtle oak]

I think this is a really bad idea. The finals is the finals, not call of duty, not battlefield,…
It’s always better to have a team but that is the case in any game.
It’s not impossible to win solo, just more difficult because 90% of the randoms are incredibly bad.

[lofty crypt]

More Fcar Skins!! now!!!

[calm anvil]

VERY MORE !!!!

[molten horizon]

the turrets need a complete overhaul...they are way to OP...tracks through walls and kills in seconds

and the recon also need a tweak...should just be snapshots every 5 seconds and not complete tracking

[analog violet]

they already added 2 SOLO game mode bud do some research (no ofeense ofc)

[radiant heath]

Fix the anti-cheat please T_T

[lofty crypt]

More very more more FCAR SKINS!!

[rose surge]

MAKE LIGHTS VIABLE

[obsidian grail]

Agree with you, no matter how good the gameplay is if there are cheaters in the game then this will be a Dead Game, so the Finals will be Dead Game 2024 ??

[sudden tangle]

MAKE LIGHTS VIABLE

[slim karma]

Imagine if we had text chat for everyone in game, every team could coordinate together to beat the cheaters.

[plush grotto]

If there was text chat I guarantee it’d be straight toxicity. With that being said, I’m here for it

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!

[slim karma]

Either way there is so much utility in having a text chat, if people don't want to use it in fear of toxicity and abusive behaviour, then give the user an option to turn it off.

[proud thistle]

flash bangs - rework it like constant sourse of light in room. So you can get blind after the flash band "explodes" @fickle linden

[foggy orbit]

Lights are viable but they require a lot more strategy and outplay in order for them to compete, unlike the other builds, you can't fight head on for most fights, you have to pick your moments and maximise the utility of your specialization and gadgets.

[spark girder]

Just to tack on, those solo modes are some of the least fun I’ve had in this game.

Mindlessly running around playing deathmatch in this game is nowhere near as fun as teamfights around an objective.

They really need to add extra modes that aren’t a mad dash to bank coins and keep the teamwork intact.

[tropic tiger]

the Rush-gamemodes from battlefield is the type of gamemode i have enjoyed the most

[rose surge]

So basically your answer was "they are viable, you just have to play way better". That's fucking stupid. Players with equal skill levels but different classes should contribute equally to the team. The problem is that lights have very little team utility. I play all classes, and my win rate is drastically lower with light, even though it's what I've spent the most time with.

[foggy orbit]

Couldn't agree more

[errant flame]

Is this confirmed or just you guessing?
Anyway, really? C4 having pathetic radius and damage is a good change?

[royal valley]

i saw in a website called unknowncheats.me ... 70 k downloaded the fking cheats man fix this asap like every 2 games there a cheater holy F

[subtle oak]

I do agree with everyone about light being the ‘worst’ class, especially in ranked and quick cash game mode.

However

In bank it light is very useful I think. Probably because it’s a casual mode and nobody treats it as ranked. It requires more skill in general though. Medium and Heavy are easier to play.

[wicked arch]

We need a custom game feature with:
Choosing map & events, adjusting logos & colors, changing rules like number of cashout stations, teams, members for each team, vaults, amount of money for each vault, ratio for wipeout penalty, respawn time, etc etc.

I think it should allow people to control literally every single settings in game. This would be beneficial for promotion of game, by allowing youtubers & streamers to play and have some competitive match together.

I don't think embark didn't plan this, but the sooner this feature comes out, the more users game can get.

[desert blaze]

Use AI voices more in game

[cunning dagger]

Please improve matchmaking. Playing with bronze while in being in plat is just stupid and boring

[wary storm]

custom games to play against friends would be a great first step. but for me at the moment, fixing the match making and fixing asian servers so you can actually play ranked or a tournament

[sage blade]

Same goes for quick play, I keep on getting into matches with 6 year olds

[obsidian grail]

First, just fix the Anti Cheat hey you Embark Developers, no one wants to play Game with a Cheater in that game

[upper citrus]

yes. it’s still incredibly useful and heavy is still op

[sudden tangle]

MAKE L VIABLE

[fervent vortex]

C4 is still really good if your bad that’s on you

[errant flame]

No, it's not. The explosive with prep, delay, manual activation and whose damage goes from max to to min in 1.5m range shouldn't be dealing 90 dmg. 90 dmg is nothing. It's laughable.
@eager rivet His weapons sans sledge range from atrocious garbage to barely OK. Shield only make him a bigger and slower prey and what was done to RPG and C4 is a crime.

[eager rivet]

Says the class with 350HP, 3 different type of shields, Rpg and amazing weapons

[turbid gate]

I believe that a common misconception of the light class is that it needs utilities in order to be accessible to a team but if you look at the light class as a utility of itself, you have a sentient gadget that is able to dismantle an entire enemy teams, gadget system, and specialty system along with easy kills if you are able to distract the enemy team from the light. Playing as a light solo is easier than playing as a light on a tightly knit team with bad teamwork only because the enemy team will always focus you out because you have the lowest TeeTee K in the game and team firing isn’t exactly viable as a light due to the fact you will always put out more damage
@the.tom#0000
All classes regen equally and considering as a light your either dead or hit once for 50hp before the enemy is dead faster regen isn’t exactly the move. But there have been multiple times where I’ve shot down an entire team after glitching them making their defib,shield,recon,bubble,mesh completely useless. And for a medium/heavy that heavily relies on gadgets for gameplay that is in fact a huge advantage. I will say perhaps a movement speed buff would be in order so they can get out of sticky situations better without having to run dash but calling for what would essentially be a “health buff” would make light WAY to overpowered in the hands of skilled light players. I’ve played light since beta and there definitely has been a “falling away from grace” but we can all agree it was needed.

[radiant heath]

DO A HOTFIX ON THE ANTI CHEAT EVERY SINGLE GAME IN EU HAS A CHEATER -STATEMENT IN 24 HOURS OR UNINSTAL LAST CHANCE-

[rose surge]

Lights can't "dismantle" a team lmao. They got 150 hp. They regen slow as hell. I'm sorry but this isn't a great option at the current state. They would need to buff hp or reduce regen time for what you're saying to make sense.

[viral pulsar]

I didn’t say solo I said TDM or increased Damage. The problem isn’t the team size, it’s the average players possibility to come out on top even aginst 2v1 odds. A temporary even with TDM will siphon the COD players out of your favorite game mode and leave you with the objective oriented players in the objective oriented game modes

[sudden tangle]

M/H META IS BORING MAKE L VIABLE

[deep ginkgo]

PLEASE MAKE YOUR GAME HAVE SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING

[slim karma]

I've seen this guy make many dogshit suggestions that would make the game a lot worse, just ignore him, he's just a troll.

[nova horizon]

Opening battlepass tab should bring you to the page you are currently working on (9/12 etc) instead of the first page making you scroll through them all. Small QOL change

[eager rivet]

Never made any unnecessary suggestion about balancing and never was a cry baby either

[slim karma]

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the guy you were replying to

[upper citrus]

bro i’m not gonna lie you are very obviously the most biased person in this channel at all times. it’s very obvious that you play heavy and want heavy to be good because of it. you really should try playing other classes and try to not be so biased in your feedback

[keen hollow]

Please can we add an option to change classes mid game. It’s tiring and infuriating you’re stuck with the class you chose at the start of the game

[opal cliff]

Thsts the whole point

[cunning dagger]

Improve the matchmaking. There are just bronze/silver to team up with you at this point. It's frustrating to play in plat with bronze teammates who play with a different mindset

[granite topaz]

He sounds like a HEAVY only.

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[errant flame]

In 350h in the game I played all classes. The other classes are too good for their roles and heavy isn't. If stating heavy should be all about firepower, the heavy hitter and heavy artillery, and cutting it is something that never should've been done makes you think I'm the most biased here, then so be it.
Regardless, I don't know what must be going on in your head to think that 90 min dmg on such a tiny damage fall off window is ok.

[lethal trench]

+++++

[livid spear]

Why does jackpot juggle not stay on the akm it’s so annoying

[quick coyote]

i need the steal the spotlight ost
please embark

[upper citrus]

heavy is the defensive class. rpg and nukes were the best offensive weapons in the game and deserved to be gutted. if heavy had the best firepower while also having the most health (it already has both) then it would be the best class in the game (it already is)

[glacial knot]

I will share this every day until the developers change it, the actual matchmaking sucks, you just need to put a matching limit like match players only with 2 rank over or 2 rank below. Otherwise I will continue to play dirty and leave every shitty matchmaking battle , And go play with my other 4 accounts until the ban will be lifted from my main.

[copper ocean]

Keep in mind that the heavy class is the biggest thing in earth and easy to hit + slow as fuck 💀

( But nukes definitely are still to overpowered )

[cunning dagger]

Genunine question -
Do the people who play L only care about rushing and dying/ getting team wiped , when they can easily revive?
How are you expecting the devs to make a class VIABLE when all you do is play solo.
Asking for more health, damage and faster regen is just wanna be more solo.

[fallen sundial]

New Event Idea

The arena gets hacked and all your utility and abilities are disable; your hud aswell

[fervent vortex]

Listen I’m aware every game needs to have baby fed features but if you cant play heavy that on you, also if u try to argue heavy is not the strongest clsss your brain is off, sincerely a top 20 heavy

[proud thistle]

Game is dying

[spark girder]

I’d do the opposite and reduce the cooldown of everything. Events make things more chaotic

[past flower]

Add like a 50-100 player tdm gamemode.

[errant flame]

If you think he is solely or primarily a defensive class and basing this off of the description, then nowhere does it say that light is a DPS, assassin or a weapon specialist (has the most weapons). Yet he somehow is.
"Attacks with speed and precision. Executes hit-and-run tactics. Specializations allow for hiding and evasion."
It focuses on his speed, precision and the best thing said about his combat abilities and purposes is "hit'n'run', not "kill'n'run".
Next, to be the best at defense, he should be the best and most effective at least at close to close-mid range. Yet he isn't. Flamethrower is garbage and has no damage. Shotgun is garbage and failure of a weapon, M60 - has neither damage nor accuracy, Lewis - a bit better, but still the same problem. Only sledge is kinda ok.
It also makes heavy look like a complete moron wielding such trash weapons when he could've just taken lighter ones with way better damage and accuracy. Or better yet, take M11 in each hand and call it a day.
Should and would he be best overall? No. The game isn't limited to CQC. Most combat oriented? Yeah, he should and there is nothing wrong with it.
@tame pivot If that's all you "understood" and all you ever say is "skill issue" like a parrot, that's probably a thinking skill issue on your part

[tame pivot]

If the only ok heavy weapon for you is the sledge hammer you have huge skill issues

@errant flame if you can't realise the auto shotgun and lewis gun are the best weapons in the game you have skill issues it's that simple

[meager lark]

please remove the account barriers between embark & steam.
give us the ability to view steam profiles in-game.
give us the ability to type thru text mid-game and in the lobby.

there's quite literally no way to communicate outside of in game squad chat between friends.
i have had countless teammates that i've became friends with that dont talk.

i have no idea when they come online.
i have no idea when they're in-game and can't even see my party invite.
i have no idea whether or not they're down to play at all.

this embark account system & propriety account registration only adds unnecessary barriers especially when we dont even have the means to effectively bridge the gap.
there's no text chat.
there's no way to view the status of your friends that have the game open.
there's no way to view whether or not your friends in game are online on steam but not in game.

ive met amazing people from korea, china, and japan and our only way to communicate is thru voice commands & voice chat where we hardly can understand each other.
there is no text chat to copy paste text and use TL'd text messages to understand each other.
lots of people i would've gotten along with if it werent for these frustrating barriers.

just scrap the entire system altogether for steam instead please.

[sudden tangle]

M/H META IS BORING MAKE L VIABLE

[upper citrus]

ok there is no way this isnt bait sorry carry on sir

[wispy steeple]

can we remove 3 of the same class in one team

[slow zenith]

i stopped reading when you said that the shotgun is garbage, it's very obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about and should stop talking about balance

[cunning dagger]

Very weird bug, after round 1, game got disconnected for everyone,
I joined after like 10 minutes and it's a 1v1 between us in round 2 lmao. Whatever I do I still qualify lol

[toxic shadow]

"only sledge is kinda ok" i think youre just not really good man

[violet elbow]

a certified bum this guy

[abstract fern]

just when i thought the takes on this server couldn't get any worse 😭😭😭😭 can we ban this guy from feedback or smth what the fuck did i just read

[fallen sundial]

Welp its better than staying on the air for a solid minute or blowing up

[fervent vortex]

People writing whole damn essays just to be wrong, rough life

[zealous ferry]

LOL what the fuck did I just read.

[unique wasp]

The thing I want to see the absolute least is for the game to degenerate into rigid teamfighting where you're just magdumping into people that refuse to die because of barriers and healing, chipping away at them until someone drops and you take the advantage and rush in. To me, that's been stale for years. The gunplay is fine, it has very little to do with why the game clicked for me.

The stuff that I really like is playing with positioning and gadget interplay. Destruction, mobility, taking and utilizing counters to what you think the other team is bringing, that kind of thing. I feel like the more you take away burst damage and insist that this is a high TTK hero shooter and should be handled like any other in the genre, the stronger you make what are IMO the least interesting aspects of the game.

[quick coyote]

We're going hard today

[cunning dagger]

Why am I in a fucking 1v1v1 in ranked wtf is going on

[fiery badger]

I think it would be dope to be able to have the cat and the crow on both shoulders as an option if u have both unlocked

[dry pumice]

^ that would be sick and would drive up sales for the finals

[rigid oxide]

What if there were an in-game event where a giant t-rex dinosaur appears and wreaks havoc in the arena?

[shrewd egret]

.After the Patch 1.8.0 the nuke was nerf but that was a bug and you just fix it, thanks for that, the thing is the nuke dammage wasnt nerf and need it absolutly for keep players in the game, the community are frustrating to die without any chance to win, make 2 x 98 (+ RPG 140 DMG combo) From the nuke in a fight, its to huge and unbalanced

.The recoil of the Fscar need to be nerf, its not normal that the Ak have more rude recoil with less dammage than fscar who have strong dmg and not hard recoil

.some teams got spawn sliped

.The heavy charge need to be nerf, to much dammage

.The lewis headshot need to be little bit nerf dammage

.The heavy shotgun need nerf dammage and range dmg also

.RPG need to be nerf to 100 from 140

[quick coyote]

The heavy shotgun needs a range damage nerf?
WHAT

[foggy orbit]

heavy shotgun has the highest dps in the game

[zealous ferry]

I completely agree, but there are aspects of the game (nukes) that are unfair. Why can mediums not place mines on barrels just like heavies and lights can place c4.
You can literally be chilling waiting for someone to push in and just die out of the blue with absolutely no warning by a god damn nuke. Its stupid, maybe the APS turret range needs to be buffed to counter that. The nuke and rpg combo is still too strong. Hell i cant even run nades or mines anymore because i have to run around with an APS

[unique wasp]

Whenever I think someone is running nuke I try to be proactive about it and always figure out where they are or get away from where they're probably expecting me to be in advance so it's easier to play around, which isn't always possible especially if it's a third party or something, yeah. Buffing APS is one thing they could do, they should make it so carriables it's attached to don't break and you can pick it back up again if you drop it, maybe.

[shrewd egret]

just a little bit

[pure stirrup]

Why still no improvement on anti cheat? I encounter so many fucking chinese cheater. Pls do something man. Its like a normal view to see a cheater in this game. Or should i use cheat also too counter a cheater?

[quasi fiber]

Yeah I agree I was thinking the best fix for nukes is have APS turrets hard counter them like they do for grenade launchers.

[unique steeple]

remove invis

edit: idk what's going through y'alls mind to think that this has a place in this game, like please justify this to me

[eager crypt]

💀

[cobalt coral]

Day 11 of asking for a real life Nama Tama Tamagochi.

[viscid owl]

i was able to see a light's gun when they were cloaked, might have been bc they were reloading

[zealous ferry]

Thats another thing, gotta do something about those recoil scripters. I cant express how many times ive seen clueless heavies with the most perfect recoil control lol.

[queen cloud]

lewis has no recoil...
People act like recoil is hard to control. Like just ad strafe and aim, most guns feel like no recoil after u get used to them for like 1h.
Execpt maybe m60 and lh1

[swift gust]

I am facing a weird glitch. I am getting only 50-70 fps in first round of Tournament and then from second round I get 100 fps. What kind of weird bug is this

[versed beacon]

Guys is game lagging for you too? I mean like fps problem, ive got always like 100-20- in game and now im stuck in 60-90 this feels so bad

[quick coyote]

Yes, but you have to play the L every time

[loud night]

why has embark forsaken light? did the light devs do something to piss off their boss? the biggest changes implemented were because light could not play the game and its still ass to experience

[zealous ferry]

That was just an example... The fact that it isn´t hard for some people doesnt mean that 100% of the players can control it properly lol.

[ocean prairie]

add a New York 1999 map

[golden otter]

Make invisible lights more seeable

[spare cape]

We need haptic/adaptive trigger support for ps5 ❗️🥲

[fervent vortex]

There is no recoil in this game your just bad lmao

[granite topaz]

There is recoil. Controlling the recoil is up to the player.

[pine raft]

fps a lot worse after the patch, from around a 100 to less than 60

[quick coyote]

dear embark

what the fuck is this shit supposed to be?!?

[native kiln]

We really need keyboard and mouse to supported on console now

[sudden tangle]

M/H META IS BORING MAKE L VIABLE

[unique steeple]

Invis is even more boring, there are so many ways to make light viable without having to make him invisible, this is such a stupid idea. Recon and invis shouldn't be in this game, or in any game actually

[quick coyote]

I love the comments "this shouldn't" or "this should" be in the game. As if everyone is a self proclaimed expert and entitled to embark's IP

[swift shuttle]

disappointed all the soundtrack links appear to be streaming services, can we get a bandcamp release or something

[icy iron]

Game is back to being a 100% CPU hog, less than 2%GPU usage. Was fine a week ago

[paper stream]

Same here. 4090 at 30% but cpu is dying (5900x)

[ancient hare]

__Suggestions: __

● Fix nukes for good: Further reduce (or remove) C4/mine damage to players when attached to throwables.

● Make throwables fun again: (after fixing nukes) revert the changes that make attachments add extra weight to throwables and reduce their trajectory

● Fix defib spam: add an interruption to the defib ability when taking damage

● Fix turret spam: make shooting turrets temporarily disable them.

● (Properly) Nerf Recon: Remove toggle. like heavy's "Charge 'n' Slam". Promotes smarter use.

● Increase Light utility: Consider adding more charges to dash and grapple. Give lights a way to automatically provide useful information to their team during gameplay. example: shooting enemies marks them

● Add more accessible ways to destroy floating platforms on Monaco

● Add more (interesting) stuff to grind! Example: Give us the ability to choose "Sponsors" that award us with themed cosmetics through an XP system

● Give me (just me) 1 million multibucks for free

[upper citrus]

HE COOKED

[wispy steeple]

pls set regional prices for multibucks theyre too expensive

[icy iron]

Its like the game doesnt want to use the GPU at all.

[quick coyote]

that defib change is gonna be just annoying. i think giving the rezzed player a short glitch effect is a better solution

[sudden tangle]

V

[astral sorrel]

Insane that recon sense is still in this game

[scenic kiln]

grapple 100% needs multiple uses i agree

[violet elbow]

the class balance is genuinely awful and its a shame that heavy gets all the fun destruction, all the high damage abilities, and all the big health shields this game has to offer, alongside guns that are barely worse than Lights guns, Heavy gets to actually play the game while on Light you are just forced into hide and seek against fullauto shotguns that kill you in 2 shots while the shotgun that only has 2 rounds in the mag cant even wipe a heavy

at this point it just feels like yall actively do not want Light to be fun and its such a shame considering the class could have so much potential with the vision you seem to have for it

heavy has the highest burst damage ability in the game (c4) the highest DPS and fastest killing gun in the game (SA1216) and gets 1300 HP across 2 different kinds of shields while also just having instant 140 damage with the RPG, how can anyone think this is actually balanced?

@analog violet check your ping in the other channel, its not possible to wipe a heavy with the double barrel even if you melee afterwards

[analog violet]

you can still 2 shot heavy like heavy can 2 shot you I stun gun behind him switch to my double barrel and boom dead heavy 2 shot 1 shot light up close ONLY

[paper stream]

We don;t really need recon senses - there are so many people using wallhacks that it doesn't matter.

[royal pivot]

im getting super low fps on this new update, my friend is having the same problem and some on discord too, is there a way to fix it?

[verbal plinth]

Got disconnected rejoined and got banned and lost 1k fame points

[radiant heath]

Fix the anti-chat please.

Please do something about the load times of a game if there is 1 person with a bad pc your loading for ever we shouldnt be punished for that xD

[icy iron]

This should not be a thing..
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/KNLoJ5AXcy

[zinc haven]

the last point especially (but me)

[mint arrow]

Bro why is ranked mm still so ass cheeks I always get top diamonds on opposing teams and get people who just installed on my team wtf

[ancient hare]

It's supposed to be annoying. It shouldn't be a valid strat to just spam defib during gunfights. The change to i-frames was very good but I think defib is so strong that it needs to require smarter use to keep it interesting

(it would still be a BiS pick for mediums even with this change - which only proves my point)

[quick coyote]

there are ways to make something balanced without making the whole thing annoying and unfun to use. that should not be the point of any nerf or buff

[upper citrus]

fix defib by removing its revive functionality and when you use it, it kills you

[shy sphinx]

Add beards to face options. Not everyone wants to look like an Asian baby.

[ancient hare]

I totally agree that fun needs to be the highest priority but It'd also be fun to be able to fly around the map and drop nukes everywhere.

Maybe my idea to fix it is shit but I feel p confident that the flow of the game would be better if there were (somehow) more risk to going for a defib mid fight.

It's the same idea with my proposed recon changes. the ability would stay very strong but now you just have to be a little more tactical with it. Smart plays feel good.

Also - I almost exclusively play support medium so this isn't just an anti-medium mindset. I just think promoting smarter play makes the game more fun. 🤷

[quick coyote]

my issue is that i think having it cancel the defib at the lightest damage tick is just going to end up frustrating and annoying.

considering that you dont spawn with full health/ammo i think it isnt as big of an issue as recon or nukes and that sort. however i think it would be better to either reduce/remove the invinc frames or to give the person that just got revived a glitch effect which would negate the option to spam defibs

[cobalt flare]

If they added odilia, Why they didn't add ballerina twirl intro? edit(Didn't notice the thing)

[cunning dagger]

How about you ban these Chinese hackers. Or give them a separate server.
Asia server ❌
Chinese hacker server ✅

[cold haven]

Im sure this or something similar has been suggested, but a mode (LTM or whatever) with forced role lock- H/M/L could be alot of fun. Also, for tournaments and ranked, a system where teams can ban a gun/gadget would shake alot of things up in a good way imo

[cloud bone]

can we get a "lock input method as mouse" setting. I play on an Azeron and it helps lock the thumbstick as kbm input but still allows 360 movement

[zinc haven]

they...did?

[slate fossil]

im having an issue where when i inv anyone or they inv me, 5 seconds later it kicks me out the game and idk why, doesnt give an error code or anything

[eternal summit]

i am suspended,however i didn't leave the tournament

[cobalt flare]

This game is asking and begging for clown pirate and roman centurion themed skins

[paper stream]

Your anticheat sucks, holly cow - nevert saw worst anticheat than in The finalls. But yeah, If you suck then I will just develop some shitty cheat and give it for free. Wanna have game full of cheaters be my guests.

[upper saddle]

After further consideration over the ranked system and a stronger system with greater player retention and growth potential I referred to League's ranked system again.

In Addition to rank based match making for ranked game play specifically one of the things that can push The Finals into the spot light as an absolute juggernaut of a game is two separate ranked ques, Solo/Duo and Full Stack being two separate ques, whether they do or do not have separate ranks the separated ques insuring a solo que player is virtually always matched with other solo and duo players instead of three stacks and three stacks will only be matched against other three stacks, these changes will make the ranked system far, far more enjoyable and improve the growth and retention of player counts.

[amber sage]

Embark if what you promised doesn’t show when the store refreshes, I’m abducting someone on the team

[queen cloud]

Ye, I come from apex and I hate heavy with a passion. It's the slowest most boring character to play, yet the most OP.
Overall I enjoy medium the most.

[sage blade]

We need more Arena Events, For example a tornado ?

[paper stream]

Sorry boy. Heavy is the only way to play if you are playing solo and want to have a rank higher than silver. And Embark you know, after I am reviewed I should be blind for 20 seconds so I can;t see where I am going. But what do we fucking expect from a company that can even get team colors in the game right. Fucking pathetic... Happy life Embark. Hope you are secured against legal actions cause these are comming at you.

[violet elbow]

they somehow seem to think that this game needs a class that has the most hp, the most damage, the most survivability and the easiest to use guns

[waxen karma]

Same!! some ranked matches are good, others are bad!
It seems to be happening only in ranked mode, maybe it's the cool team preview screen?

[ebon peak]

MnK support on consoles please,,,

[timber solstice]

i agree. i've been maining medium recently because I like being able to have movement but switched back to heavy and found I was getting 12+ kills in a match without even trying. lewis gun + rpg is a broken combo

[rich tiger]

The performance on PS5 is really really bad after the last update. I've been playing with 20/40fps and massive drops

[stable lagoon]

How to fix The Finals and recapture the lost playerbase:

1. Add breast and thigh sliders
2. Add option to remove shoes

[solar garnet]

NUKE NOT NERFED ENOUGH

[glacial knot]

He think he is playing pubg 😂😂😂

[timber solstice]

NERF: glitch grenade (10sec status effect is ridic), rpg, heavy in general; gas

FIX: let people change specializations/classes during the match; all breakable glass should trigger when you sprint into it;

ADD: more interesting weapons for heavy and med

[quick coyote]

Unless you're locked into L, then rip

[cold haven]

Was thinking more like people could queue into roles, but ya maybe not enough people would be wanting to be lights. Or there'd be too many people trying to queue up as a medium since every game now seems to be nothing but fcar mediums aha

[jagged loom]

cant play this game cause i keep getting kicked for no reason when playin with buddy

[plush grotto]

players turrets, mines and c4s should dissapear after team whipe

[lone plinth]

Delete Sandstorm Las Vegas

[hexed niche]

It makes no sense for the game to crease while I’m in a ranked game, and then I get banned and cannot play ranked anymore cause the game crashed while I was in a game.

Where is the sense??

[kind fern]

more diverse types of maps pls

[stable lagoon]

Add alt-fire for the shotguns with right click, replacing it with the useless aim on them:

Light's Shotgun: Fire both shots at the same time, but get extreme recoil and spread so only usable at point blank.

Medium's Shotgun: Rapid-firing from hip, cowboy style. Massive recoil and spread in exchange for higher firing rate

Heavy's Shotgun: Rotate the mag. Simple.

[clever surge]

The performance went absolutely downhill, idk what you all did

[quick coyote]

It's a fine idea in concept

[summer rune]

same here, getting really low fps after the last update. strangely enough the fps goes back to normal sometimes after going to a second round

[thorny wren]

same

[quick coyote]

UbTyMxg7

[small smelt]

can you pls add more skins for the lewis would be cool

[clever surge]

Try to use DDU updater, and wipe your GPU drivers with restart, and then install them fresh. Helped me, although cant be for certain, played only one test round

[quick coyote]

Good news everyone, the finals is saved! They released the soundtrack!

[grand notch]

pls fix fps :(((

[thorny hill]

in elevator just had someone steal THROUGH the wall!!! this is FUCKING dumb as hell and NEEDS to be fixed! make walls SOLID objects! I mean WTF!?!? this is like the MOST basic of game designs!!! BIG fail devs, big fail!

[quick coyote]

aw yep

[gaunt thunder]

Heal shotgun

[iron coyote]

matchmaking doodoo

[viscid owl]

fucking love the menu icons, the fact that it's the same model same set up right and one's textured and the other's raw, idk I guess I'm a chimp right but it hits my brain just right

[quick coyote]

nah the stacks are slightly different 🤩

[short dagger]

They should add katana

[storm hull]

For real!!!

[golden otter]

No it’s a good variety

[lucid burrow]

ranked would be more enjoyable if it was a 3v3 (2teams) bo3

[foggy orbit]

Balance Changes I'd like to see for Medium Build in Season 2

• Recon Senses

• Change from an on/off toggle to single use ability.

• Ability instead emits a sonar pulse from the user and highlights enemies for you and your team in a 25m radius for 5 seconds.

• FCAR

• Increase recoil when aiming down sights.

• Decrease hip-fire accuracy.

• Riot Shield

• Increase attack speed drastically.

• Increase melee range.

• Secondary blocking mode should protect the user fully OR allow the user to charge at full speed momentarily.

• Defibrillator

• Reduce the percentage of health restored when revived from a defibrillator from 40% -> 20%

• Gas Mine

• Reduce effect duration from 12s -> 8s

• Explosive Mine

• Reduce maximum damage from 140 -> 100

• Glitch Trap

• Increase effect radius from 5m -> 8m

• Increase proximity detection from 1m -> 3m

[hallow ruin]

Plz stop with MMH meta guys :<

[covert dagger]

the invistun meta in casual is out of hand

[fading light]

I will be copy pasting this request 3 times a day until i get a response from embark with specifics on this well thought through approach to balance to avoid as much frustration for the players while keeping fun niche things strong for newcomers to have a way to overcome the learning curve acting as a barrier to entry(day1post3)I have all the faith in the world Embark wants this to be a good game just as much as everyone else and they seem to understand having a "fun" game and having a "Balanced" game are not always 2 in the same and they seem to be striving to be the first game in history that does both without becoming a sweat fest that requires hundreds of hours and knowledge simply to enjoy...Embark as a good heartled loving fan of the finals im on this ship until it crashes no matter what decisions you make but i have one request...remember how you got here...the game is great because of the over powered niche stuff, as of now it appears your plan of balancing involves looking at how often things are used by the playerbase and nerfing numbers on items to make them harder to use...although this is a great starting point and i belive to be indicitave of you as a team having the right intentions it has backfired...the recon nerf changed nothing about what was frusturating. If some guy that has only played call of duty for 5 years runs recon he can still ignore objective and chase me for far to long while having my precise location, the "full map knowledge" was the weakest strength recon brought to the table and had nothing to do with what was wrong with the ability...you guys have formulated a game that is perfect by doing 2 MAJOR THINGS that no other game has done...1.)Embrace the OP Shit and give it to everyone and 2.)everything thats OP is easily countered.In conclusion...Nerfs that don't remove frustrations only hurt the game for everyone instead of this approach buff something thats seemingly "useless" by making it hard counter a problem item PLS DM 4 DETAILS

[graceful rampart]

day 3 of asking for text chat to teammates

[sick pier]

FOR REAL

[quick coyote]

I didn't read this but lol

[unique steeple]

Considering my CPU sucks compared to my GPU this is especially annoying, I get like stable 200 fps on high in most games but on the finals it's 90-110 at the lowest settings

[late pond]

EMBARK, you missed this in the patch:

• FRAMERATE
  • Decreased maximum FPS from 140 to 40

With 7% load on GPU

[maiden epoch]

Half of your lobbies being invisible players just waiting for free kills is the most unengaging trash experience. Invisibility has no basis in reality and rewards nonsense lazy bottom feeder gameplay.

INVISIBILITY=INVINCIBILITY

[ocean prairie]

Fcar is already worse than akm and this guys tryna make it worse

[quick coyote]

bro is on about nothing

[quartz oak]

Can we pls get some fcar skins, there’s only like one

[late pond]

@true epoch @rocky gazelle Aight, this game isn't playable. We're done with FINALS.

[upper citrus]

wow u showed them

[open elk]

well I mean he got a point there but nothing new

[boreal wagon]

Just rejoined this discord to say this
Game couldn't break 40k players last week
Game couldn't break 30k players this week

Game is dying at an alarming rate because your balance team is absolute DOGSHIT

See you guys season 2 if the game even stays alive long enough

[burnt notch]

i can agree with nerfing glitch slightly but allowing you to change classes during a match would mroe than likely ruin the game. enemies would become unpredictable. you might kill a light with dash, and then get thrown off when he comes back with invis and kills u instantly

[rough depot]

did they say theyre nerfing defib yet?

[sleek dove]

wtf is wrong with audio on the cashout???? I've had so many games recently where it's been taken with no audio or visual cue on it. I just lost a game at the last second because of it

[thorny hill]

here is another cheater: XoMa#4537

[round shard]

Who down to play ranked

[timber solstice]

and then you counter w/ sonar grenades or thermal vision or flamethrower or whatever else. It doesnt make a lot of sense to me to have a class-based shooter where you can’t really counter enemy builds once the game has started

[magic pine]

i think a major improvement to the game would be making it so friends can join your lobby while your in game if they have a invite cause trying to group up with people you dont have on steam or discord is nearly impossible with current invite system

[viscid owl]

in las vegas 2032 sometimes the plants get really happy and bounce around alot, like the sway on them is amped up

[outer pagoda]

Day 1 of suggesting for better volpe cosmetics ❤️

[rose surge]

Glitch grenade needs a buff soo bad!!

[viscid owl]

there should be a highlight around grenades like frags, I thought it was my team mates lol
I also think there should be options in the settings to turn off outlines (people are unique enough, at times, to be recognizable purely based on what they look like)

[ebon vector]

Add something to do with VRs after you have everything like a place where u can open boxes (I think a gumball machine would be cool) or something like that to get stickers or something could be kinda cool 🙂

[analog vapor]

Embark Why doesnt ur anticheat automatically kicks those who are blatantly cheating? doesn't miss a single LH1 shot from 200m away, this should be easy to detect

[visual sierra]

It would be REALLY nice to be able to reconnect if I have to restart my computer if the game becomes unresponsive!!!

[blazing linden]

Adversaries lock eyes, each daring the other to make the first move.

[rose surge]

I think defib should honestly be removed from the game or severely nerfed.

[calm crystal]

They use the steam anti cheat which is (and was) famously bad afaik

[lapis belfry]

Enemy footsteps shoulda been a thing at launch

[viscid owl]

I'd like some more ui options, ultimately turning it all off, but going into things like crosshair sizes and shit
in contrast to turning off the ui maybe there can be more audio options like "announcers" so you can turn off certain voices

[limber folio]

They should’ve put Death by Rhodent on the soundtrack list

[upper citrus]

REAL

[crude brook]

get some official tournamentsss
and advertise them in this discord
i wanna be in a role that pings me every time an official stream goes live

[lapis belfry]

Why can c4 penetrate 2 floors below?

[fast lake]

Suggested Ranked Changes:

1. Ranked implies there is a matchmaker, and yet this clearly isn't the case. I'd suggest a system where players are put in lobbies with other players of either one (1) rank above/below. E.g, a Gold 4 would be sorted into lobbies solely consisting of people rated between Silver 1 and Gold 3. If, for example, a Bronze 3 and a Gold 3 were in a party together pre-matchmaking, then the matchmaker should act as if they are both the rank of the highest ranking party member

2. If a teammate leaves the party in a game of ranked then the others should be able to leave without being penalised

[pseudo latch]

Day seven of begging the devs to give heavy a KS23 four-gauge shotgun

[grizzled plinth]

What if they added a feature so we could make our own crews/ squads. Whatever you wanna call it. Make it like rocket league so every team can customize a name, the color of the team etc. I think it would be a fun feature for the people that like to play with friends

[kind fern]

bigger gun pool pls

[frail surge]

I would like to see more guns and maby mods for guns , differnt sights supressors stuff like that

[ocean prairie]

yeah and they could use an ai generated voice to say the team names

[livid spear]

Make tactical joker work on AKM mines keep going away every time I try set it

[velvet grove]

players need to receive ingame notifications , when getting invites from friends

[near lava]

What are you talking about?

[pure arrow]

Can we get some nice skins for the FCAR please ☺️

[rugged path]

Facial hair and Mullets 👍

[kind fern]

y'all i just wanna say this game reminds me of ready player one (especially the coins dying animation and that makes me happy so thanks)

[tame gate]

reposting this because it still bothers me

the friend list should tell you if someone is in a match or not, and if they're even in the game or not, you see that they are online even if they didn't open the finals. i added someone and i forgot to ask them for their discord or steam id before leaving and now i have to keep spamming the invite and hope he'd accepts before queueing for another match

[livid spear]

I mean jackpot juggle sorry on the AKM every time I try put it on it just goes off or when it sets and I try load into a game it doesn’t work @near lava

[near lava]

Yeah that’s a bug set it up in ur load out before you’re in a game first then restart app should fix itself

[runic stump]

"Fixed an issue that allowed players to cancel emotes by using quick-melee"

Why is this an issue. If anytbing it should be a feature. Why are we commiting to emotes???

[glad ore]

When I'm trying to report someone, please stop kicking me out of the UI for every little thing that happens in game. It just makes it take that much longer to report them, and then they get even more salty because I'm "AFK"

[glass fjord]

I REALLY WANT TO STOP DYING AFTER IM FIVE METERS BEHIND A WALL

[livid spear]

Aww bro you life saver I’m gonna try that hopefully it sticks thanks man I appreciate you

[quick coyote]

I have crashed 3 times already 💀

[rocky marsh]

Please fix it so that if a teammate disconnect either you don't lose FP for losing or maybe I dunno just like make it so people can join mid match. its so infuriating joining a game just for my teammate to leave which makes my other teammate leave which makes me have to play solo and then lose 60 FP cause of it

[oblique olive]

let us set cpu affinity

[empty musk]

the soundtrack is so good ty embark. please fix the major issues for s2, the game has so much more potential. also yeah performance is wonky even cpu usage is higher compared to 1.8

[tropic swift]

Sounds def needs some work. Footsteps are quiet at times when there are no other sounds that can overlapp it.

[tired patrol]

Need tournament bank it

[livid spear]

Nah bro I’ve tried 3 times resetting my game but still won’t stick its so annoying @near lava

[quick coyote]

matchmaking still sucks.

[plucky raptor]

Bring back Valentine's Day, I need my favorite track

[fading light]

I will be copy pasting this request 5 times a day until i get a response from embark with specifics on this well thought through approach to balance to avoid as much frustration for the players while keeping fun niche things strong for newcomers to have a way to overcome the learning curve acting as a barrier to entry(day1post4)I have all the faith in the world Embark wants this to be a good game just as much as everyone else and they seem to understand having a "fun" game and having a "Balanced" game are not always 2 in the same and they seem to be striving to be the first game in history that does both without becoming a sweat fest that requires hundreds of hours and knowledge simply to enjoy...Embark as a good heartled loving fan of the finals im on this ship until it crashes no matter what decisions you make but i have one request...remember how you got here...the game is great because of the over powered niche stuff, as of now it appears your plan of balancing involves looking at how often things are used by the playerbase and nerfing numbers on items to make them harder to use...although this is a great starting point and i belive to be indicitave of you as a team having the right intentions it has backfired...the recon nerf changed nothing about what was frusturating. If some guy that has only played call of duty for 5 years runs recon he can still ignore objective and chase me for far to long while having my precise location, the "full map knowledge" was the weakest strength recon brought to the table and had nothing to do with what was wrong with the ability...you guys have formulated a game that is perfect by doing 2 MAJOR THINGS that no other game has done...1.)Embrace the OP Shit and give it to everyone and 2.)everything thats OP is easily countered.In conclusion...Nerfs that don't remove frustrations only hurt the game for everyone instead of this approach buff something thats seemingly "useless" by making it hard counter a problem item PLS DM 4 DETAILS

[spare cape]

Pleasee we need haptic/adaptive trigger support for ps5 it would be amazing if we got it for next season this game is amazing playin cod or apex feels dry after playing the finals I jus wish we had true haptics/adaptive trigger support pls add this I wanna see this game succeed ❗️ keep up the good work y’all been killin it on the updates and feedback, all we need is haptics for ps5❗️🙏

[lapis belfry]

Anyone tired of regen taking an hour?

[tired comet]

WHY IS THE XP ACCUMULATION NOT WORKING ?!

[spare cape]

That’s sum fax 👁️

[livid spear]

Show assist stats

[carmine drift]

ranked in a nutshell
i understand that ranked queue on dm is almost empty, so rbmm has to be a bit loose. But i'd rather wait for another 5 minutes in queue than waste 10m playing with leaving/bronze teammates. Sometimes people literally tell in vc that it's their first ranked game

and teammates leaving must be addressed in some way. At least don't subtract the points lol

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[worldly ravine]

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[spark girder]

Can figure out copy and paste but not the return key

[sterile marsh]

Two things I'd like to share and ask: 1) Does clicking the Social button (top right) sometimes crash your game? and 2) Is there a "Toxic queue" for Ranked in this game? Because my last 10 matches were with bronze toxic players (I'm low plat) Thanks. Also, this ^ "But i'd rather wait for another 5 minutes in queue than waste 10m playing with leaving/bronze teammates" (15min slowmode ouch)

[kind fern]

NEED MORE DAPPER Aah OUTFITS/COSMETICS

[static iron]

Yoo there was hacker in my game bro I do t think thru get banned

[viscid geyser]

nerf this booboo ass role tank what even is this bro my guns do 0 damage

[pseudo horizon]

GET RID OF THE STUPPID FUCKING INVISBLE SHIT THAT SHIT IS SO FUCKING ASS GET FUCKING RID OF THE BULLSHIT IM TRIED OF DYING TO CAMEPRS WITH A FUCKING 12 INCH LONG SWORD THAT GOES UP MY ASS AFTER THEY POP A INVISBLE FUCKING PERK

[quiet saddle]

Fix the damage on the M11. Starting the game it felt like it killed really fast, now it doesnt kill at all. Its not doing enough damage. I can stuff a barrel into a medium and dump my mag and it wont kill them.

[fading light]

I will be copy pasting this request 5 times a day until i get a response from embark with specifics on this well thought through approach to balance to avoid as much frustration for the players while keeping fun niche things strong for newcomers to have a way to overcome the learning curve acting as a barrier to entry(day1post5)I have all the faith in the world Embark wants this to be a good game just as much as everyone else and they seem to understand having a "fun" game and having a "Balanced" game are not always 2 in the same and they seem to be striving to be the first game in history that does both without becoming a sweat fest that requires hundreds of hours and knowledge simply to enjoy...Embark as a good heartled loving fan of the finals im on this ship until it crashes no matter what decisions you make but i have one request...remember how you got here...the game is great because of the over powered niche stuff, as of now it appears your plan of balancing involves looking at how often things are used by the playerbase and nerfing numbers on items to make them harder to use...although this is a great starting point and i belive to be indicitave of you as a team having the right intentions it has backfired...the recon nerf changed nothing about what was frusturating. If some guy that has only played call of duty for 5 years runs recon he can still ignore objective and chase me for far to long while having my precise location, the "full map knowledge" was the weakest strength recon brought to the table and had nothing to do with what was wrong with the ability...you guys have formulated a game that is perfect by doing 2 MAJOR THINGS that no other game has done...1.)Embrace the OP Shit and give it to everyone and 2.)everything thats OP is easily countered.In conclusion...Nerfs that don't remove frustrations only hurt the game for everyone instead of this approach buff something thats seemingly "useless" by making it hard counter a problem item PLS DM 4 DETAILS

[calm crystal]

fax but you only need it once 😭

[shrewd oriole]

MGL32 detonation on impact with player please.

[left compass]

game is good just needs some tweaks

[wicked void]

embark can we add a giant floating nama tama blimp that drops rocket launchers in the arena thanks

[sleek dove]

when r u guys gonna remove the in built wall hacks..... stupidest idea for an ability ever

[regal ferry]

make stun gun make target unable to fire weapons

[quiet saddle]

No

[steel fossil]

is anyone having problems with the fps my contast 120 fps is now 80 and gpu utilization is maxing 50%

[delicate pawn]

certain gun reloads don’t work

[lament nova]

TL;dr: learn to use punctuation and line breaks

[pine raft]

same thing after the patch, fps is atrocious now

[regal ferry]

jump pad occasionally does not work, the ones already built into the map, it will cause you to fall into the void

[thorny hill]

Here is a thrower whose account needs to be deleted! HappyYolk#6741

[faint tinsel]

thats toxic

[cunning dagger]

Matching platinum with bronze/silver is just stupidity. A 16 year old can write a better matchmaking logic. Doesn't even look like you guys have a logic in the first place. 3 player in queue, just match them up, doesn't matter what their rank is or what lobby it is.
Give a better matchmaking system and actually improve your logic before giving gimmicky features. It's not that tough to implement matchmaking

[regal ferry]

alright then go make better matchmaking logic
I am tired of all these whiney complaints, and I'm not even the developer

[thorny hill]

No its not! they were reported in game too by me and the other teammate we were playing with! they were literally in the corner pretending to masterbate... THAT is toxic! know what happened before you open your mouth!

[lethal palm]

So quick question, my game crashed and wouldnt let me back in the game despite going back into the game instantly and i lost 600... Famepoints... Why does it make u lose 600.... Fame points when u DC from a ranked game... I get like a -100 which makes sense but 600..... Why....

[quick coyote]

getting super old dying behind blatant cover. get your servers straight

[full knot]

I assume the reload bug is a known issue but holy shit its annyoing

[eager rivet]

Facing screen tearing issues since the latest update on ps5

[wispy oasis]

bro why tf are my frames so bad

[steel fossil]

ye frames are so bad in round 1 but it gets normal on round 2 and up

[merry loom]

need mnk on console because controller is so annoying to play fps on

[terse dune]

Maybe giving the option to change the lobby background so one or more of the other game color themes, the red is good, but it might frick with the eyes after awhile

[wispy oasis]

bruh it makes me not even want to play

[quick bobcat]

Please fix the skins and charms that we equip on weapons and gadgets. Waste of time to put them back all the time

[quick coyote]

i haven't been grouped with a single person in plat since i got here. this is so pathetic lmao.

[thorny hill]

welcome to the growing club of 'im done with this game because it is too broken and instead of fixing it they introduce more cosmetics' club ... here is your card

[uncut ice]

@thorny hill the community team is funny. OCE ranked died a month ago and their way of addressing it was to add a new LTM which split the already dwindling pop in half lol

[lapis pollen]

Again, OB version of dagger is ten times better then now.

Please revert it if you dont know how to balance dagger.

[finite river]

here are some things that should be added to the game imo. first of all just a team death match mode, whatever team gets the most amount of kills wins the game, no cash or anything, this could also work as solos. we also need solo bank it that’s body type specific, so you can que into solos for only lights or mediums yk what i mean, basically steal the spotlight but without it only being stupid pre made load out, and also not just the casino map please that was trash. the game could maybe use some more weapons, just to get people experimenting again, same goes for attachments and stuff. and nerd the heavies, i think it’s dumb the strongest class gets so many shields that you can’t really do shutting against, because a team of heavy’s is gonna win every single game of quick cash. speaking of quick cash, that’s a stupid name imo, it doesn’t really match the actually game mode so yeah. but overall the game just needs more gamemodes that aren’t based around cash, a lot of players just play to get kill records which is why there should be modes only for kills, that would honestly just make the game a lot of fun and help you improve a bunch. hopefully someone takes this into consideration because it’ll get the game kickin again yk.

[dark mauve]

L

[cunning dagger]

Agreed, I am tired of playing with bronze. Not a single match have I ever been teamedup with plat. What a joke matchmaking it is

[quick coyote]

There is absolutely nothing they are going to do to this game to save in its current state. It is the most miserable solo experience 90% of the time. The matchmaking is killing the game. The steam player drop is fucking legendary. Percentage wise, its worse than Splitgate was at 2 months. And its the matchmaking. Its the 3 stacks against 2 bronze and a diamond trying to carry. People keep praising Embark - oh the weekly updates - who gives a shit, its all fluff. No roadmap, no genuine show of interest in listening about matchmaking. just keep nerfing. it was never the balance, its always been the matchmaking. You know how many goofballs were running around with nukes fucking them up? most heavies. that's who the nerf affected, meanwhile you're still getting blown apart by a 3 stack with recon and 2 nukes anyway.. because matchmaking. matchmakingggg.
edit: and i'm not that good. i'm okay. i'm good with a player better than me, but terrible with players worse than me. so now that I'm at plat, its been awful.

[thorny hill]

Here's another thrower: DaringEffort#3432

[narrow monolith]

i keep seeing people list the shotguns as OP in tier lists, is it like an aim assist thing?

[quick coyote]

Strict solo matchmaking as an option, I don't want to queue into coordinated 3 stacks everytime I play ranked

[ebon peak]

Because of people like you COD mW3 and black cell premium battle pass is the no 1 selling shit,,,it is because of people like you that good games don't thrive

[thorny hill]

They dont have the playerbase for that! It is small and getting smaller because of all the cheaters and throwers! same problem most online games have becuase of the SAME mistake other online games make: over valuing short term rapid player base, then quickly losing all the people who would have been long term players because they refuse to corral the cheaters and throwers and make ranking fair... I just lost 5 in a row in 'plat' becuase of obvious cheaters and throwers and getting paired with bronze players on my team who are just there to play for 2 minutes and leave... its terrible and this game is quickly dying becuase of it... so yeah... naw they wont do that as they cant even match ranks!

[cunning dagger]

And then the people say the game isn't dying. They're probably the ones happy killing bronze silver players and thinking they are superior.
Random matchmaking is shit. 9 out of 10 matches are always with bronze while being in plat and the gameplay is just miserable

[ebon peak]

So even tekken 8, SF6, hunt showdown and all the games within a range of 15k - 30 k on steam alone are dead??,,, you have shit logic , go get a life and don't play this game, go play COD!

[wise cliff]

I just had a weird bug upon starting a ranked tournament match that took my performance of the game down entirely, i was getting 8 fps after this and some players in the tournament bracket weren't even loading. This wasn't happening to me before. I lowered the graphics but after that the game just crashed.

I loaded up the game again and entered the practice mode and everything seemed fine until i attempted to change the video settings and the game crashed again.

Neither of these two things was happening to me before the last update.

I didn't receive an error code.

[dim owl]

LOL
Mans put a bounty out for him lol

[cunning dagger]

You either are bronze yourself or play with group so you like killing bronze randoms.
Bcz no way you are supporting plat matching with bronze

[errant flame]

DAY 🔟 since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 2, if not 3 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[upbeat inlet]

Tbh, light needs 175 hp and more aggressive but skill based util. Maybe something like arc stars

[granite garden]

Please devs, do something about the Heavy Heavy Medium Composition, is so broken. Mesh shield + shotgun + def + healing + another heavy is so freaking stupid. So stupidly broken, it is impossible to play against. Please fix in any way that shit

[thorny hill]

dont know what you are on about, but Tekken 8, SF6 and hunt showdown are paid for upfront games! they already got your money! This is Free to play and without a large player base, no one pays and everyone leaves! they cannot survive on such a lower player bas with 10-20% paying for a battle pass... basic economics... so, no I dont have shit logic, my logic is very sound. I have also never played COD a day in my life, the game is trash, always has been always will be! So yeah, its becuase cheaters and throwers that the 'good games' dont trive and the 'good games' allowing them to Skull F their player base for short term player spikes. Read a book!

[quick coyote]

hello, any update about the frames dropping issue recently? i hope it get fixed- suggestion please remove the buildings and objects outside the playing Zone it gonna help to gain some frames per second i think.

[white basin]

I think they should let ps5 and xbox x be able to play on keyboard amd mouse instead of only pc

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[granite garden]

I have an idea for the mesh shield and shotgun. Mesh shield could be something like the recon sense, a time ability, but if someone shoot at it, it reduces the time, so you have to think how to use it instead of just spamming it. And for shotgun, make the dispersion higher so it becomes a short range and AOE gun instead of a DPS gun. Lewis should have a worst recoil control, so it becomes a short range gun aswell. I think Heavy should be more a bullet magnet for the team than a DPS. Medium should be an utility support, something like that, and light should be the dps, or at least that makes the most sense to me.

Ah, and before i forget, spawns should be fixed aswell. I got c4 killed immediately after i spawned. And I think spawns should prioritize the last cashout owned, even if it got stoled.

[cunning dagger]

Please do something about the leavers. If a teammaye leaves that match is just a goner. Why are we supposed to waste our points and time because of this.
Give extra points when a player leaves and an option to leave the match

[silk moon]

For the love of God, please add 1st round fame point forgiveness if you are missing one or two of your teammates

[quick coyote]

if your teammate left you can actually leave as well and nothing will happen, make sure he completely leaves the game you can actually read that note if you try leave tourney.

[inner karma]

Add 1 more cashout point to tournements. There is no point in fighting over the first vault. 1k for unlock maybe but after unlock camping a cashout is much better than burning tokens and team wiping at a vault.

[woeful void]

Game mode idea:

A mode with a slight variation on the cashouts. instead of a single 10k pay out for the last team that was holding, have it so you earn x amount of the total value for however long your team holds a cashout. this would make objective play way more contested and be less rewarding for the last second steals that can cost a match.

[vivid pawn]

Is someone else on XBOX Series S experiencing random Black screens after 1.9 update?
And I know that it is the game, because it only happens when I'm playing The Finals

[cunning dagger]

Fix the fucking crashes. Randomly crashes out of nowhere. Great optimization.
So i have been suspended bcz I got crashed in round 3 and the game refused to open. Great fucking game.

[dim steeple]

There´s a bug where you can´t use your heal i don´t know whether that bug only appears with the heal beam but for me it only happened with that but twice. When you have this bug the heal makes the sound of no one in range and just doesnt heal

[late herald]

Killed someone in bank it
Tried to deposit, didnt move or anything and the game cancelled my deposit, was a huge deposit shifted the entire game, pls look into and fix

[radiant imp]

@ebon peak @cunning dagger stop using game feedback for pointless arguing and take it to dms ffs

[quick coyote]

Yea I don't care what the queue times are, the fact is matchmaking into a coordinated stack as a solo player is unfun and unreasonable to think you'd win at a steady rate. Queueing into 2 teammates who don't talk or aren't in voice chat makes ranked significatnly harder if everyone in my lobby is solo then individual skill matters more, with no fixes to the ranked system the game will not have anyone left to play the mode anyway

[eager shard]

player info on friends list. come on I can't invite any of the people I've added or send them a discord link

[ebon peak]

If these guys will cry for matchmaking issues and then conclude that the game is going to die because of matchmaking - then I will definitely take a stand bro for this game. What this game has to offer and the future of this game is very good - just these random cry babies are concluding in the feedback group that the game will die, spreading a false narrative, which is wrong. Everyone in the group must know that balancing a live service game is no joke and it will take some time to iron out all the small issues which are present.

[fickle linden]

It's ok to disagree, but please don't escalate into insults

[nimble anchor]

can we have light regen health quicker

[fallen mirage]

I've had a problem, since the last 2 patches, where it doesn't show who has the current cashout. It happens a lot (PS5). Loving the game though, but please look into this, thank you:)

[thorny hill]

I agree with you - the match making is not good - I am just telling you it’s not going to happen… I hope it does, but it won’t :/

[limpid saddle]

i wish they would allow you too change your class when you die like your loadout

[sharp patio]

The framerate on PS5 since the last few updates has been so rocky, I'm getting frequent dips down to the low 40s :/ anyone else experiencing this?

Otherwise loving the game!

[wary herald]

the medium needs some goood guns like AK nad FCAR are the only optimal way to play,and grenade launcher need significance amount of work to kill heavy (i still use grenade launcher because its easier to kill those light main fuck the lights all my homies hate light mains)

[split drift]

Something like king of the hill so people dont just get high ground and cheese shields.

[limpid saddle]

another fun mode would be team deathmatch

[sharp tundra]

please add to see if my friend is in a match and if in then how long and what round... If possible, add a spectator mode

[limpid saddle]

heavy should be able too throw other people besides other heavys as a special

[old charm]

I get some people are nervous to use their mic in-game, but we do need comms. Maybe add a team text chat? And for the people who have the team chat off, maybe allow them to hear people's comms but still have the ability to mute?

[trim trench]

I think you should add a feature so you can click a button and have a wheel / list of comms your character can say for you

[vital coral]

How about changing class names?

[subtle oak]

Small rat guy, average, big boy?

[spare cape]

We need haptic/adaptive trigger support for ps5, please add this feature it doesn’t fully feel like a next gen ps5 title when you don’t use the systems full capabilities, all the different guns and gadgets it could work with and different things you guys could implement. The game is already amazing jus please don’t over look this

[vocal canyon]

guys are games laggy

[limpid saddle]

they should add takedowns like cod

[vital coral]

Exactly 😄 or M casual, H ranked etc.
Additionally devs can add button "Copy class"

[austere zenith]

can guns pls get like scopes

[thorny hare]

It would be nice if the developers would address the OCE ranked server issues. They haven't worked since the 1.5 patch when they introduced SBMM and tried to fix the Crossplay issue for Xbox. Specifically, confirmation on whether it's a player count issue or an actual server side issue.
For further context - We had plenty of people playing prior to this update and the game was able to match players as late as 2AM on any given day, so I find it difficult to believe that it would have initially been related to the player count. However, since it's widely known now that it's impossible to get a ranked game on the OCE servers, much of the playerbase has since migrated to Asia or quit the game since the deployment of the 1.5 patch.

[ionic tusk]

the game soundtrac is fire, and i love the game but yesterday i met 5 cheaters in 4 games

[open summit]

where abouts do i report this cheater to make further steps?

[worn plover]

remoove nuke

[sand belfry]

u sure its cheater? because those numbers are possible

[pale finch]

sliding should make you go faster. rn the fastest way from a to b is just running in a straight line which is kinda lame

[cold pilot]

if this is a cheater, I definitely got reported for so many times
@open summit anyway you can report in-game or
-report

[violet elbow]

Slidejumping should carry/give more momentum tbh

[thorny wren]

once is enough

[olive jewel]

There's an issue with the oceania region where matchmaking for the tournament modes does not work. I used to be able to get into tournament (although it did take up to 5 minutes of matchmaking), however now even if I wait 25 minutes I haven't. been able to get into a. match. There is definately something wrong with the oceania region in the. finals so i'm just. hoping this gets addressed.

[livid spear]

Address the AKM reload animation please

[subtle oak]

Probably not a cheater, in a premade squad we get scores like that too. You shouldnt accuse people of cheating that fast.

[wraith wharf]

nah i loved the game at first but i swear to god it annoys me so much how braindead heavy is. Its takes so much less skill than both medium and light and is just unfun to play against. Nukes and rpg are just unfair and take no skill

[fading light]

Ill reduce it to 3 simply bc your the second person to imply they don’t want to see the long message but i won’t not be heard especially just for the convenience of non dev people not even reading it

[cloud spear]

idk man, 27 kills definetely aint normal in my elo so it is possibly, when you take into consideration that the guy probably seemed suspicious with his gameplay as well

[quaint scarab]

stop releasing new stuff in the store and fix whats broken in the game already....lights are unplayable, loadouts wont save, dailies/weeklies wont register sometimes, nukes are ruining the fun aspect of the game ect, and what do you do instead of fixing these issues you try to get us to spend more money with releasing neon cowboy.... you want people to spend money then fix the f'ing game and make it playable again instead of making it feel like this game is just gonna get the plug pulled at any point because of your incompetence as a company.

[worldly fable]

NEW EVENT: Heavy fog

[rocky prawn]

will there be any text chat in the game?

[hollow scaffold]

Does anyone have the issue with low fps in game? gets fixed when i restart pc but back again in next game

[dark willow]

Add kbm support on xbox

[fading light]

I want the option to use tokens to swap items in my reserve instead of respawning(edit)so it would cost 2 tokens to spawn before wipe with a new class

[pastel hazel]

How do I fix server connection timed out

[drifting charm]

there is way too many cheaters in asia/EU servers

[olive jewel]

I don't believe numbers alone are solely enough to decide whether someones cheating. I believe a cheater can only really be descerned by eye with how weirdly 'good' their aim is, looking at how good they are in other fields of the game helps me with this, such as when i see a person who is deleting me very quickly but his overall gameplay is questionably bad, because its unusual for someone who has developed actuall good aim to not also be good in other aspects of the game. However just remember to not be so quick to call people cheaters since sometimes someone can just genuinly be really good at the game.

[lament talon]

Palworld went from 2mil peak to 300k in 24h that's the commitment casual players have.

A competitive fps can only survive with an esport scene

[rocky prawn]

dont know about the fps but the game crashed for me when there is other programs like browser running in the background

[worldly fable]

Since nobody uses Voice Chat, you should add text chat.

If you're worried about people crying because someone calls them stupid then allow the options to mute and filter bad words

[olive jewel]

i think events need to be entirely reworked because they're either annoying such as low gravity and dead go boom(which was removed), or are just insignificant and make no difference (alien invasion especially).

[rigid vessel]

80% of the games(ranked) i played today and yesteday have massive fps problem
like - 30 to - 50
all the people i played with has same problem
it really sucks,and one of my friend's mouse is stuttering to the point of unplayable,it wasnt happening to him anywhere else,maybe its a problem with the game

[violet elbow]

guess im cooked

[digital anchor]

give us the option to leave a ranked game without penalty if one guy leaves the game

[sinful gazelle]

Overall a bit bad ideal.

This can lead to players being “bullied” by their teammates wanting them to leave so they can get less penalty/FP losses. It can be use In a bad way.

Yes random sucks and they tend to leave the game when it’s hopeless or smth happening. But that’s how it is for any game when solo queue really.

The game I would say needs to differentiate crashes and able to reconnect and actually leaving the game. I know some players crashes and can’t reconnect leading to the whole team giving up. (Patch 1.9.0 defy helps with less crashes but some players still can’t reconnect from crashes and get penalty)

[rocky prawn]

yea u are right .and when people use voice chat there chances that they use foreign language or there mic is bad

[fossil rampart]

user error

[oak gate]

Make light more of a team player

[harsh breach]

I agree

[worldly fable]

cranes are broken, only allowing players to move them left

and the wrecking ball's physics are weird as it gets stuck between the rubble and fly away, gotta fix that

[lapis yoke]

I absolutely hate not being able to swap specializations in casual modes. What game value does that actually bring? straight up frustrating and doesn't promote experimentation at ALL

[hearty cape]

Inviv + stun gun is the most unfun thing to play against. As a light player myself I'm just dead not because I lost the aim battle but because I have low max HP and I just cant even aim while stunned by a guy that was invisible

[gleaming marsh]

i thought you can already 🌚

[merry patrol]

Fix the FPS please. Yes game is unplayable at the moment

[hardy mural]

FPS is completely inconsistent, no longer holding 240+ on a 13900k, 3080ti all low settings starting Friday February 23rd. Game fps is now dropping and avging 150+ depending on the round within a tourney

[untold pendant]

I don't think the low LOD of the aps turret are right

there are overlapping polys

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!

[spark girder]

Even in ranked I don’t get why there’s a need to lock in your loadout. It’s stupid and only cements a meta where you pick what can’t be countered

[obsidian grail]

Cheat are FEATURE in this GAME, it's normal bro

[sinful agate]

Hello! I was in a game, playing as a heavy and saw an enemy team in the distance. I decide to use my rpg and take a shot but suddenly out of nowhere, a teammate pops in front of me. He’s not in my crosshair, he’s under it, but he gets hit anyway… I take 252 of damage (or 242, It’s one of the two) while an enemy would not get that amount of damage. The explosion alerts the enemy instantly and I get killed with a few bullets, all that in a matter of seconds. I think that’s a bit unfair as sometimes you can’t prevent what your mates will do (I was ahead of them btw). So imo, the rpg shot would have to go through friends (and friends only). It’s definitely ok if you hit the environment, and it definitely prevents heavies to suicide bomb the enemy, but hitting your friends sometimes can’t be avoided

[coral turtle]

Useless feature request: valve like game state json stream https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Counter-Strike:_Global_Offensive_Game_State_Integration so i can blink my ceiling lights red when our team cashout is being stolen

[earnest girder]

Get better friends

[quick coyote]

Anyone here got drop of fps since last update?... I got 120/130 before update now im stuck at 50 with setting in low and i got drop a 30 fps sometimes....

[glacial knot]

I have 165 fps like my screen and i had never fps drop. I think it depends on your gpu settings or driver update . Try to downgrade to the Previous driver

[marsh moon]

what hardware are you using? my framerates haven't changed at all

im on all amd so maybe its something to do with the nvidia and or intel drivers

[worldly ravine]

s

[hardy mural]

13900k, 3080ti, ddr5 ram 6400mhz, same issues as them, went from 240+avg to 150

[gleaming pulsar]

batle royale pleaseee

[worldly fable]

Add gore and blood

[quick coyote]

the fuck are you even talking about? With your incoherent response? I'd say games don't thrive because of completely inept people like you.

[rotund cloak]

I have already followed all the instructions previously given by one of supports. He let me play about ten games and again he banned me and kicked me out. Beyond throwing me out, System Integrity Violation always comes out. So how can it be solved? Can anyone recommend anything to me?

[river mural]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[white sky]

delete/nerf shotgun heavy lol.. 0.25 sec to kill light and 1-2sec to kill medium

[unreal marten]

Uhm guys, how come I just get q'ed with bronze gold and silv while being d1
How is this supposed to be rewarding and motivating

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[lyric sail]

Kill cams plz and thx.

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[pallid jetty]

Witness my magnum opus, an attempt at a gadget concept.

A clean laser breach that cuts through most surfaces, like those you might see in movies. Not magic, not a portal, just a physical opening.

Useful to gaining entry and disrupting objectives, better and faster than frags, RPGs, and breach charges. Tradeoff: no potential for player damage like those have.

[manic sandal]

I would be really happy to see more personal statistics in the game. I'm playing more as support/healer so would be nice to see also assists (as kills are there) and health healed (as damage is there)

[cunning dagger]

Insane fps drop and high ping which makes the game literally unplayable. Other online games seems to work fine. Does this game have a special requirement or just optimisation issue?

[livid spear]

Fix the reload animation on AKM

[jolly drum]

Ever since the most recent update I went from no crashes to 3 every hour

[peak fiber]

Will the ranked matchmaking ever be fixed?? and will I ever be able to see my ping??

[wispy oasis]

when tf are they going to fix the frames

[strange fossil]

add proximity chat between all teams, and the option to turn on team vc as well, now to be stealthy you have to not talk (team vc also is active as well as proximity chat)

[quick coyote]

I'm pretty convinced at this point its the server side destruction that is causing them issues. It gets bad when you know there are some sledgies out there just having a good time.

[fierce dagger]

Hey guys, ¿something happened with the optimization? I play at 70 fps when before I played at 100fps

[upbeat urchin]

Please buff the firing range, the targets should move at max the character speed

[jolly drum]

Make that 4 crashes in an hour. I thought the recent update was bug fixing not bug adding

[river mural]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[stable lagoon]

Please add new weapons/gears to spend VRs and earn XP on, everything is unlocked rn and it feels boring

And no, cosmetics do not count as content drops

[crisp sundial]

Hi guys ♥ When fix crash the game pls is the only game that cant play if u want more players on 2 season will should fix that problem is so weird that said me put Dr11 or another thing if my pc only accept dr12

[pure crypt]

i like this

[peak fiber]

I don't even need that much. atleast a text chat too for when no one in VC. and a global text chat if possible.

[strange fossil]

how will you have time to chat in a game as chaotic as the Finals

[deep arch]

Can we get mouse and keyboard support for console please and thank you (:

[sly estuary]

Pls fix it guys https://youtu.be/kXHVsRgKkok?si=4Ax9L_nrlv6Ixr6h

[wispy oasis]

plz fix the frame issues wtf is 80 fps, if i wanted console frames i would have bought an xbox

[stable saffron]

[smoky topaz]

Plz increase xp per match and make challenges more fun. Do (something basic) (number) times is not a good format.

[quick coyote]

<@&1012034066876473384>

[drowsy condor]

anybody else getting their stickers and charms removed when entering a game?

[jovial lion]

RE: accidental inputs on controller - switch to weapon

Embark, please can you make it so that quickly tapping the switch to weapon button whilst looking at a pick-up-able gadget doesn't start the timer for hold to pick up? it's killed me multiple times, especially when it starts grabbing the mine that I just threw midair

[dense niche]

Friend, only support can truly help you as they are more experienced with this sort of issue and can look into accounts (which we cant do on Discord). Please reach out again.

[halcyon hollow]

PLS ADD a more detailed in game stat checker like overwatch has

[stable lagoon]

Bruh trust me, you’ll reach max xp and unlock all weapons n gears in no time, later on you’ll have maxed xp n no remaining unlocks to spend VRs on, just be patient

[turbid brook]

I understand there season 1 right now but that XP has to get changed especially the challenge XP cuz I feel like you barely get any but overall really good game and I enjoy playing it I even brought the battle pass

[quick coyote]

yoo

[violet elbow]

Classes and their guns arent balanced against each other at all, which makes fights between seperate classes very one dimensional

why do Light guns barely have higher dps than heavy/medium guns if they have 100/200 less health?

[strange fossil]

imagine maining heavy, shittiest class in the whole game 🤣

[spiral merlin]

so sad to see this game die, input based matchmaking, kmb on console, and just listening to their community would of saved them

[maiden epoch]

cl-40 skins are ugly as hell

[frank oracle]

[quick coyote]

Ironically it was listening to players in the first place that killed it

[violet elbow]

are you gonna tell us about how nukes/wallhacks were healthy for the game or...?

[pseudo latch]

Day eight of me begging embark to give heavy a ks23 four-gauge shotgun

[rotund cloak]

Thanks! ☺️

[cinder snow]

I haven't enjoyed a shooter this much since MW2 and Black Ops, I wish it kept getting better and had a crazier variety of maps (for example a map that's just a giant 20-25 level building) and new weapons for the different classes. Thank you for bringing this game to the world.

[upbeat urchin]

I ve had the same issue on controller trying to throw mine and switching to grenade launcher it s annoying

[jovial lion]

EXACTLY

[astral dust]

is it a bug that sometimes on PC, after getting team wiped, 'J' would not open the change loadout menu. and you are forced to play with that loadout you already have ? or this happens deterministically in certain conditions ?

[strange fossil]

hopefully

[paper stream]

With PC players count dropping it seems The Finalls is turning into console-exclusive game 😄

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[quick coyote]

Been there, done that. Y'all made your bed, now you get to lay in it. 🙃

[lament talon]

Showed that they are actually willing to change things

[violet elbow]

I mean im enjoying the game, just cuz you cant kill people without your wallhacks/10m deathball doesnt mean it was healthy for the game to exist, matter of fact both should be nerfed further, what drives away casuals is abilities with zero counterplay, which shit like recon and nukes are

[paper stream]

Yup, and driving players away. Not sure what the end goal is but this game will be another battlebit in a year. It basically means that there will be not enough players for all the playlist and more people will get frustrated with a long queue times - or unfair lobies. Sadge, it just seems Embark doesn't have a clear vision for the game.

[torpid shale]

Guys is it just me or the Fizzy Tiger skin is hella weird? The recoil is all over the place

[uneven rampart]

New Map Idea: Swedholmen (Inspired by the Smålandian town of Nässjö.)

Huge Train Yard, with a big Town hall multiple big commercial buildings that is less housing and more office spaces and stores.

Would be cool to see train cranes above the yard itself that you can destroy or have multiple cashout points ontop.

Idea from @jaunty merlin Yes! Adding a moving train that pulls in and have a cashout ready, would be dope AF.

Idea from @paper jackal : Moving Platforms where one train moves around the city with passenger wagons or gondolas.

Älskar er från Småland, Embark!

Love you all from Småland, Embark!

[stable lagoon]

Add new weapons n gears pls

[jaunty merlin]

moving train hazard would be ha ha funny

[quick coyote]

Yes, because nerfing everything that was fun has done wonders for the playerbase. Keep at it though, it's definitely working

[hybrid obsidian]

Would absolutely love some more plays on the UE5 lighting system. Absolutely love the visual styles that fits with the game and I think that screens and more flashy and showy maps would be great.

[quick coyote]

pride flag colored cosmetics would be awesome, for pride month events and/or the in-game store, or maybe as progression rewards

[quick coyote]

the nerfs arent the reason the players left, most games lose their player base after the honeymoon phase. quit bitching. the nerfs were good.

[violet elbow]

Love it when people cope like this and dont understand that the casuals dropped because other games released/this game lacked replayability in the shape of Maps/Gamemodes (which Embark are working on cuz they are based)

[tame pivot]

you're acting like the majority of people haven't left before the nerfs, by the first balance patch the playerbase already went from 250k to 60k

[modern valley]

in gold 4, just got ranked with 2 pl with no rank

[short dagger]

They should add katana

[royal fractal]

can we fix getting random black screens in between matches of ranked? too annoying...

[glacial knot]

PC issue because on my PC everythink works fine and smoothy. Or Maybe try to repair the game on steam

[floral wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/live/B_jRWiVi6Qk?si=uQNfcAnFXAd7HhzF

[quick coyote]

start with what, exactly?

[cunning dagger]

Please improve matchmaking. Increase the queue time idc.
I don't wanna be matched alongside bronze Ls.
Just gave 11 revives to this guy L guy with 1 kill.
Makes the game tiring and boring.

[quick coyote]

Don't engage with the homophobes

[tame pivot]

Some people are snowflakes and can't handle being reminded of the existence of gay people

@severe wave ''No'' Proceeds to prove me right

[paper stream]

Invite more people to play. Not enough players currently to make it work... sorry guys. The matchmaking is only gonna get worse now. Everyone wanted a lot of nerfs, you got them. Now bear the frusts haha

[eager raven]

Hi, please add a stronger visual queue for the sword lunge being fully charged for those with hearing issues. The "whooomp" sound gets drowned out pretty easily in fire-fights and its hard to know when its fully charged. Maybe a glint on the blade? Thanks!

[violet elbow]

"NFT collector and marketer, successfully helped 25+ NFT projects to grow, get viral and sell-out. " 💀 💀 💀

[uneven rampart]

<@&1012034066876473384> We need some clean up in here.

[inner karma]

Increase self damage from explosive weapons. The counter for explosive classes should be getting up close and personal.

[halcyon hollow]

PLS ADD a more detailed in game stat checker like overwatch has

[true harness]

Here's some feedback regarding stats. If "support" is such a crucial category, which it really is, why aren't things like revives or some cumulative support stat available when looking at a player? Really think that would be nice to include.

[spark walrus]

Ive maxed out battle pass, and career. We need more grindy shit to work towards, and ability to buy stuff with coins…. My 3000 coins are useless…

[wicked osprey]

what happened with fps in game

[burnt solstice]

Not being allowed to leave when you are the last player on your team and getting penalized for it is the dumbest thing ever

[glacial knot]

If one player leave the team in ranked you dont get penalized i tried it already

[quick coyote]

Pride colours have nothing to do with sexualization. The flag is used to represent a variety of people who have historically been the victims of prejudice and to signify a safe and inclusive space for those who wish to fly it.

You cannot possibly infer someone's gender identity or orientation from rainbow cosmetics and regardless if a person is hetro/cis/queer anyone has the right to request certain cosmetics to be added to the game without prejudice.

You don't have to participate if for whatever reason the idea of safety and inclusion offends you.

[paper stream]

Can we have an option to opt out from that inclusion?

[tame pivot]

you can uninstall the game if you're that sensitive

[quick coyote]

thought they already did that

[inner karma]

no way people get this tilted over some colors in a videogame. Also major bug. whenever I start OBS to record something my game lags so hard. I desync hard and need to restart to play normaly. My guess is that something in the anticheat is triggering. It doesn't happen when I start OBS then the game, just when OBS starts mid game

[stiff linden]

Day 100 for asking for skateboarding as a specialization for light class 🫡 embark please

[civic meadow]

Can we have some new fun team names?

[vale tendon]

GUNS IDEA
I have an idea for the game, since we already bought everything in the weapons store and the vrs is no longer useful, I propose an idea to spend the vrs on xp for the weapons, that is, unlock weapon skins with the vrs since the vrs in a future will stop being useful since we bought everything, in fact I already have everything and the vrs is of no use to me, so I propose that the vrs can be spent on weapon xp and also an idea of adding a new weapon, a crossbow for the character with agility with great damage, the crossbow takes a long time to reload, and a simple bow for the medium one that shoots arrows with a normal speed and takes damage depending on how long I left it stretching the arrow, it will do more damage, for the big guy a new rocket but it is a cannon and it takes too long to reload but it makes everything explode and it can make holes in buildings or houses

[quick coyote]

I think when winning teams hold on to cash boxes they should be somewhat penalised. Either that, or time must be added.

[worldly nexus]

add elo refund if the person you reported gets banned in the game you lost in, also add a report feedback notification so it lets you know you're reporting the correct people

[quick coyote]

the in-game voice chat could be made better, as well as text chat for folks that can't or don't want to speak using voice chat

[quick coyote]

You're more than welcome to keep to yourself if you'd rather not participate. That's totally fine

[glacial knot]

The only issue has the game right now is matchmaking all the rest playable

[violet elbow]

I think medium and heavy weapons dont do enough damage only like 3 of them cant 2 shot a Light, thats way too weak tbh

(I hope everyone gets the joke and understands that im saying that heavy and medium guns are unbalanced across the board and need to be nerfed, especially the shotguns and rifles)

[upbeat urchin]

What would you guys think about holding the timer when a team steals a cashout so that they can still steal when there is 0.01 second

[jaunty merlin]

u r saying light is too strong?

[sonic smelt]

what the fuck !! what a fuck balancing lol and one afk https://prnt.sc/OG0QNAsebwi2 its a shame fix that soon!!!

[paper stream]

Typical. That's not the point. I have a few gay friends and they say the same thing - If you are forcing someone to participate in something they don't like you only incrase the hearted and not acceptance. I don't mind. I asked normal question - can people sing off? To the guys that responded - you are part of the issue - are yo aware of that? Disable tunnel vision for a few second and start to think. It's always the same and it saddens me - people things that I am attacking them when I just want to start a discussion. So if you are not willing to be open for other people opinions why you opinion has to be important or carry any meaning? You are just making lgbt people a lot of harm, and you are not even aware of that...

[worldly nexus]

sounds like someone can't aim (its a joke i know u said that satirically)

[quick coyote]

I just said you don't have to participate. I don't see the issue lol

[tame pivot]

no one is forcing you to do anything

[inner karma]

well he might have to see a rainbow flag sticker on a light class's gun every third match. terrifying thought!

[sinful osprey]

Only if we get a Doom Slayer set to go along with it

[violet elbow]

Love how the faster a class gets the less it gets to do everything else in the game because Heavy/Medium just objectively have better weapons and util

[verbal plinth]

no it will ruin the game

[warm mountain]

there should be like more variety with how many in a game like they should add a duo and solos and even squads

[mystic badge]

Now, I know the devs are busy with more important things like bug fixes and keeping things running smoothly, but it would be so cool to host your own tournaments and have an option for the host to spectate over everything for broadcasting.

[lament talon]

They're getting a bigger budget next season and have big plans. Whatever happens i'll stay cus i know it's not as garbage as apex and Overwatch

[outer pagoda]

day 2 of suggesting volpe cosmetics.
also, can we get a "retreat" ping? its tiring to spam "HUDDLE IN HERE" while im mesh shielding near an elevator lol

[quick coyote]

What would you like to discuss? I'm happy to have any conversation with you publicly or privately.

You asked if you could abstain. I said yes. I don't see an issue here.

I don't think you're attacking me.

If you have a specific issue or point of contention I'm happy to hear you out within reason.

Also, is English your first language? Not a criticism just asking.

[quick coyote]

"I have gay friends so I can't be homophobic"

[crude brook]

HEY LOOK! A HOMOPHOBE!

[tame pivot]

Nah dude he said he respects everyone obviously he can't be an homophobe 🤣

[hollow mango]

the reason why games add those sort of items is generally to protect their image to, ill admit, a rather sensitive community, but also to allow players to express their support for said community, although, i dont see why you need to add such a thing to a video game yk

[sharp kraken]

save that shit for games like CoD, fortnite, Apex, and any other game that has intertwined real life with their games. I agree that LGBTQ deserve respect and i agree with any sentiment to support my fellow humans that need it. But this game has done well so far to not mix our reality in with their game. If they start doing LGBTQ events then they will start to do events for every other demographic which is pretty boring. Id rather they focus on making unique events that make finals, THE FINALS and not appease to get brownie points.

[inner karma]

bro when was the last fortnite LGBT event?? What game has done a pride event that isn't just a few free cosmetics every june???

[onyx coyote]

my personally i think rainobw colors wouldnt look good with the black and yellow theme

[quick coyote]

adding queer pride accessories to the game would be a great idea, as it deters the particularly toxic players (like you) :p

[tame pivot]

''But this game has done well so far to not mix our reality in with their game''

Which is why the last 2 in game events we've had we're not based on christmas and valentines day

[sinful osprey]

Why can’t we just have a video game without any sort of agenda being pushed? Why do we need these cosmetics which cause more arguing than if they just weren’t added. Most people aren’t homophobic (no one is a lil bit of a stretch), people just don’t want to constantly be seeing pride stuff in every game they play. And if these were to get added, there should be an option to disable them so that people who just want to play the game can play the game.

[tight musk]

"no one is homophobic" is a bit of a stretch

[quick coyote]

So my response to this is. Why can't we have cosmetics without people throwing up their hands and claiming some agenda is being pushed.

One person asked for rainbow items and all of a sudden people came out of the woodworks against it. If you don't want people to defend themselves stop attacking them.

It's a rainbow, it hurts literally no one

[crude brook]

"im not homophobic i just play games to escape the reality that queer people exist" is just really funny

[sharp kraken]

@inner karma im talking about them mixing up reality with their game, im not saying they specifically did a lgbtq event but the fact that they mix eminem, nicky minaj, unrelated characters from AoT, DBZ, etc. @tame pivot Thats because those are holidays... any pride month is not...cmon now.. @quick coyote this is something different, i actually agree they can put whatever cosmetic they want. they should add rainbows since theres nothing like that in the game yet. BUT my stance is that theres no need to make a big ass event over it so they can focus on other stuff

[stuck oar]

i alone have 60fps on all maps ?

[hollow dune]

WHY

[dawn sand]

Gotta love matchmaking

[cyan sable]

Can the FCAR get 5 more shots in the mag?

[mild owl]

anyone else having massive performance issues? used to sit at around 270-330fps, went on vacation for a week and now my fps doesnt go above 170 at all with the same settings

[inner karma]

It goes the other way too. The world is getting much more right wing and homophobic (especially in the united states) and some people want an escape from the homophobia. As to homophobia in the game, adding LGBT stickers would be great to drive some of the homophobia out. 2 days ago I joined a game. One person had pronouns in their gamer tag. Literally just (She/Her) at the end and my other teammate had a hissy fit. The (She/Her) teammate got called every homophobic slur under the sun and then we the homophobe threw the game. I garantee that if there were pride stickers in the game they wouldn't have been playing and the (She/Her) player wouldn't have had her night ruined by an angry homophobic man.

[trail glade]

seeing a bunch of hacker lately
rn a game with a guy 100 % headshot every shot with sniper mid air swinging and so on
no cool down on any util

would be interesting to know if there gonna be people banned or if they dont get punished

[keen lintel]

Make the game where i dont break my mouse on how stupid the medium is compared to the small or large class

[still tulip]

Level me up thanks

[stable lagoon]

Pls let lights use jump pads, I'm a medium main and even I think they need more team utility

[tame pivot]

Didn't know valentines day was a holiday that's news to me

[onyx coyote]

instead of ading rainbow we should add lizo and niki minaj

[brisk heath]

This is outrageous. Does anyone else have an issue with the first game of any tournament they lag so hard and they get kicked, and when they reopen the game they are hit with a suspension? Currently an hour long suspension with a grand total loss of 6k fame points because of this error.

[stray basalt]

Not for me unfortunately might just be you

[quick coyote]

readers added context they thought people might want to know:

"In June 1999, US President Bill Clinton declared "the anniversary of the Stonewall riots every June in America as Gay and Lesbian Pride Month". In 2011, President Barack Obama expanded the officially recognized Pride Month to include the whole of the LGBT community."

[worn plover]

REMOVE NUKE

[glacial knot]

Wtf is wrong with you guys , here is suggestions chat you can talk in DM about your personal opinions

[gritty river]

please add k&m to consoleee

[quick coyote]

I'm only replying to the part after you @ me because I'm not following the rest of the conversation.

So this was the original comment (see below). Yes they used the work "event" which is a tiny bit ambiguous but the entire request was only for rainbow themed cosmetics and was completely wholesome.

There is nothing inherently wrong or offensive about this request.

The fact that the author (and their allies) are forced to defend or explain this is the only issue.

If people don't support pride that's fine. No one has to. But please at least just let it be.

No one is asking for big gay events with provocative imagery.

Just a few colours, preferably in a horizontal straight line, which is a perfectly reasonable because some people think it's cool.

I asked for a "giant tuna fish hammer skin" because I thought it was funny and no one had an issue with that. Rainbow themed cosmetics are completely harmless.

[crude brook]

the suggestion is add pride cosmetics for pride month and some others interjected with their opinion about how that's "mixing reality with the game" or "pushing an agenda"

[modern wedge]

why

also medium shouldnt have zip and jump pad, it should either go to light or be removed.

[tame pivot]

I usually don't care about cosmetics but I kinda want them to add pride cosmetics just to trigger the phobes tbh

[flint crag]

You're a fucking L bud

[merry sparrow]

bumping into more and more cheaters recently.

[violet elbow]

Heavy as the KD class and light as the "if you play everything perfectly you might enjoy the game a small bit" still doesnt work btw

[quick coyote]

also, we should have more career reward cosmetics in general. besides the multibucks gained from the battle pass and event items, it's the primary way to customize your character for free-to-play players

[glacial knot]

Ok then they also have to add cosmetics to the Muslim on feast of sacrifice and on yom kippur for the Jews etc but i think they wouldnt add anythink because they need to be Neutral

[sharp kraken]

@quick coyote I agree with what you say, however my concern really is about the precedent. If they start with this then we are gonna get all kinds of events (im saying events only cause they said it.). The devs will end up being distracted on making events that relate to different prides as opposed to focusing on making unique finals content. Lets say we get LGBTQ event, then we get black pride, then they also must include some asian/mexicam/indian/white etc events because if they dont then it all ends up being hypocritical.
If they can just add pride cosmetics without making a event out of it then im all for it

[crude brook]

how about people making honest suggestions can post here and the homophobes stick to arguing topics they can "understand" like ancient Greece or Rome... @glacial knot @sharp kraken slippery slope is not a sound argument for most topics. where they distracted by valentines? christmas?

[inner karma]

https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-slippery-slope/. Also, a few cosmetics wouldn't hurt. This game is like fortnite, horizontal progression with the only extra stuff being cosmetic. The monetisation of the game relys on a constant stream of new cosmetics. Its a free to play game. Also, there wouldn't be a pride event. Fortnite has events for people who pay fortnite, Ie travis scott, and other performers, but "Big Gay" isn't going to be paying embark to add a LGBT event. The only LGBT event in fortnite has been a few free cosmetics you get if you log in durring pride month. You don't have to equip the cosmetics, you dont have to be gay to get the cosmetics, they are just free cosmetics.

[graceful tapir]

The mere mention of LGBT cosmetics already struck an argument. If they were added and a large portion of the playerbase hate the addition this could hurt the player counts and/or start backlash.
The last thing this game needs is any kind of backlash at the moment with player counts going lower every week. Consider in the future, sure. But I don't think this is a good time lol.

[tame pivot]

I hate to break it to you but in a game that lets you cross dress as a 6''3 men in a tutu we're probably gonna get pride cosmetics lol

[modern wedge]

this is why we should have a high voted suggestions channel lmao

[violet elbow]

this channel is gonna be so fucking funny when they add that shit and im all in for it

[quick coyote]

Hey bud, you know what, I love and respect your degree of openness and honesty here. Thank you.

One thing at a time. I feel like your concerns (and please I'm open to gentle corrections if I'm wrong) are rooted in something entirely different.

It sounds like you're worried about a misuse or allocation of resources WHICH IS COMPLETELY VALID AND REAL (the devs actually need to get their shit together).

Am I worried about a misuse of resources? Absolutely. Personally I think embark has spent too much time on meaningless nerfs that have made the game less fun.

I LOVE the finals. I remember falling in love with the level of destruction in bad company 2. I want this game to take over the world.

So I get what you're saying. Doing something like that obviously isn't viable.

One thing at a time. One step at a time, one foot in front of the other and deal with that's in front of you. Someone asked for rainbows, not for the finals to go "woke" and they had to defend themselves on several fronts just for the suggestion.

A person can't be worried about "what if's" that might never happen. You will worry yourself into an early grave .

Also how much time do you spend this discord? It's low-key a gay cult, I've never seen so many queer people in one place before. 🫶🏳️‍🌈🤭

[sharp kraken]

@quick coyote thanks for your understanding. i was merely going off of someone talking about events but if all they want are cosmetics then I support that. Though unfortunately, most of these people here seem to be too emotional to understand the simple nuance even after explicitly mentioning that cosmetics are fine. I spent about 30 min on here for the first time since joining awhile ago lol

[still tulip]

How many messages do we gotta type to level up and get vc perms? Feel like it’s broken

[livid spear]

Please fix the AKM reload animation

[elfin swallow]

it would be cool to see your stats for each class and how many of each you have killed

[pseudo latch]

HEAVY SKIN CONCEPT: CROWNED CONTESTANT

Full knight plate-mail with a greathelm/hooded armet and a large flowing cape
Greatsword skin to replace the sledgehammer
Castle wall pattern for the barricade
Crown sticker and weapon charm

[quick coyote]

Mad respect bro. I wish you peace and happiness on your journey, wherever it takes you. ❤️&✌️

<@&1012034066876473384> thank you for letting this conversation happen. I'm sure there was some debate

Especially since I'm usually such an asshole

[next zephyr]

i'm not convinced that nerfing things takes a ton of time. it has improved balance somewhat and i'd say its been worth it

[earnest ermine]

The following is a compilation of all my suggestions. Might as well shove them all into one big post so the devs hopefully see it above all the fighting that happen in this channel

• The shotguns should be able to punch holes through walls. Especially the Heavy's shotgun which would be great for creating entry holes.

• Buff the Heavy's grenade launcher's damage like holy shit that thing is so bad.

And while on the subject, make both grenade launchers do structure damage, it makes no sense why a 40mml grenade shouldn't tear a hole through drywall considering regular grenades and the sledgehammer cause enviromental damage

• It would be cool if we could set our own team colours instead of being always blue. Obviously this would only be client side to avoid teams having the same colour

• Why the fuck does the game not give us the raw numbers for stats? Those bars mean basically nothing

• Guns like the 1887, CL-40/heavy grenade launcher, SA/12, flamethrower ETC should have different crosshairs from the other normal guns.

• Lights are unrealistically small. If we assume that in universe, peoples avatars are their exact body type and not something they have control over. Then why do lights look so weird, their proportions look so off compared to what somebody of that height would actually look like (at least to my eyes)

• The current hairstyles are limiting. I'd suggest we add more (I.e mullet, afto, ponytail, mohawk, dreadlocks etc)

[wide temple]

A jungle map and deatmatch mode with at least 6 people.in the team. Only 2 teams wpuld be great. Or even 32 players vs 32 mode like bf

3 teams to much and only 3 teammates to less

[inner karma]

Servers are somewhat common to lag with 9 players. 64 players would burn the embark server host down.

[quick coyote]

with season 2 comes added budget, which likely means upgraded servers

[quaint vigil]

I am back again to ask for individual purchasing for store items. Please let us buy single items from bundles (even at an increased price). I dont want to pay 20 dollars for a single item just because its in a bundle

[timber dove]

Can lights start regenerating health earlier than other classes? These guys spend half the match sitting in a corner cause they take 3 bullets and it's too dangerous to go back out

[quick coyote]

IMO; I feel what the devs were going for with the finals. And they had it right on day one.

Each class should feel OP and be annoying to play against. Overcoming adversity with imagination is what makes games like this fun. It's a creative outlet.

Instead what happened is it launched to the masses and the devs bent over backwards trying to appease them.

Bad company 2 had fucking tanks and a assault helicopter! Do you think that was balanced? Not at all. But you adapted and it was amazing.

Feel free to debate but we'll never agree on this. I will die on this hill. The game was better with invis+dbs, infinite wallhacks, rpg one tap, and NUKES.

To me each class and the gameplay has become more boring and unimaginative. It's just shooting now. It was better at launch and nothing will change my mind. I think a lot of players we lost feel similar but aren't as vocal. So that is my issue with nerfs.

[tame pivot]

The playerbase went from 250k to 60k before the first balance patch, your argument doesn't really holds up

[novel nova]

Guys I only want one Thing in that Game!
A Lego skin for the Mine 👍

[upper citrus]

the game lost players imo because they didn’t make any meaningful balance changes and there wasn’t a lot of content at launch. imo the game should have spent another year in development

[timber dove]

I feel like the devs are doing a decent job all things considered it's just hard to deal with everything balance wise where there are no limitations on team comps or gadgets. But yeah, hoping for more actual gameplay content in S2

[next zephyr]

i think their approach to balance wasn't the best, but something had to change. it was just not fun playing against things that are just objectively strong. that doesn't encourage imagination, it just encourages every player to play the same way. at its core, this game is still a multiplayer shooter. you can't keep players if there is no reward for skill and the game feels unfair.

and yes, i feel like content is the main reason people stop playing, not balance. you can't really do much to prevent the natural cycle of people getting bored. (especially without a functional ranked ladder)

[tight dagger]

the game lost players because cheaters killed it..... preaching balance killed the game when its borderline a casual experience; The global leader board infested with cheaters and curiously the one time the leader board gets taken down just so happened to be the day pookout was over taken by a "goblin sex haver" with less than 10 mill in cashouts..... If balance was an issue rank would matter and it doesnt ;
edit - how to fix game
Step one - Region lock auto NAT
Step two - Regional leaderboards
Step three - In house anti cheat and piss off eac because it does nothing for hardware/kernal programs

[inner karma]

I would love to see more combos. Like nukes but not as overpowered. Like a glitch mine on a propane tank to start a fight with an advantage. Not an instant kill but a slight advantage. Even being able to "tether" items together would be good. Get a propane tank with a gas canister on it. A seperate type of propane that rather than exploding and dealing damage you can combine things together like a booster

[stray epoch]

same, imagine a goo canister with fire mine that somehow works

[terse hemlock]

i just had a CTD during a tournament match and now im suspended from machmaking for 7 minutes 😑

[quick coyote]

Valid criticism that I'm willing to address. So the game launched around mid December and peaked around Christmas break then lost a ton of players.

That seems perfectly reasonable for a f2p holiday launch. Also I'm not ever concerned with the size of the current place which hovers around 20k on steam and probably 50k to 75k in total including cross platform.

That is a perfectly serviceable sized player base. The game will last easily for another year or two which is fabulous.

It is fair to say though we have declined from the 60k PC peak and I also am aware a lot of players that were attracted to this game are specifically because ex battlefield devs who were attracted to a certain level of destruction and gameplay.

Neither you or I know the exact reason players have left the game. Some have balance issues and some have others.

Based on the unknown you're betting it has to do with "balance" and I'm betting it has to do with "other".

We'll never know for sure but that is the root of my opinion

[soft sable]

So when we nerfing the double/triple medium heal spam loadout?

[upper citrus]

it’s kind of crazy this game hasn’t really gotten a meta changing balance patch since launch

[quick coyote]

I guess the recon nerf just didnt happen huh?

Edit: @skul everyone used to use recon and now no one uses it. pretty sure it did something

[violet elbow]

yeah and it did absolutely nothing, just like the nuke nerfs

[modern wedge]

yes

[timber dove]

Medium has so many broken things that you removed recon and they still got a whole loadout of of things to abuse

[tawny oriole]

All classes have strengths and weaknesses and if you play as a team, one class can compensate for the other's weaknesses, for example heavy with the shield, medium and light shooting, then one heals and the other teases. I m diamond i played against one team like that and it was very hard to kill them. So if you are not able to play as team dont blame the game for your inability.

[loud quail]

For two weeks i have not gotten at system integrity violation and i can play again. I haven't streamed the game on Discord since it usually crashes or causes problems. I usually just get a random Angel Script crash but that is fine since it is minimal. Today i have been streaming my game on discord and got a system integrity violation. I have Chrome, Steam, Discord, and Ghub (for Dpi). I got kicked from a tournament and suspended. I stopped playing the game because this issue was constant even after getting steps from the Support Team.. Please let me know if there is a fix

[hasty glacier]

Please bring back emote canceling with quick melee 🙏

[tight dagger]

people who complain about "meta" < people who play around the meta and dont just do the same shit that results in them dying to the meta
IF I CANT MONTAGE "INSERT CLASS" BROKEN

[quick coyote]

if you're solo queueing for some forsaken reason (for example, daily contract grinding) then you'd probably have a better time if you play as heavy or medium. it's hard to solo carry as a light because you have a smaller health pool and without the guarantee of always being with your team you will likely need that health when outnumbered

p.s. can we remove contracts that require you to just play 10 rounds as a specific build, it really bogs the game down because no matter how good you are at the game, simply having to play 10 matches with the same loadout is both repetitive and a massive time sink, unless it just happens to be your main

[quick coyote]

We'll have to agree to disagree on balance. I understand what you're saying I just fundamentally believe the opposite is true.

Either way, all the best bud

Edit. Although I do agree about the content draught

[upper citrus]

if only this was true. medium has pretty much no weaknesses and heavy makes up for its own weaknesses by itself. if classes actually had weaknesses this game would be a lot better

[charred shard]

Kill cam / replay

[dusk forge]

Matchmaking still bullshit...bah

[astral dust]

WHY I CANT CHANGE THE LOADOUT WHEN DEAD ?

[spare cape]

We need haptic\adaptive trigger support for ps5!!!

[abstract patio]

I think the game still needs to let me do something with this 3000/3000 cap.

[round goblet]

Asian Bots, mf'er plugged a emulator something to do mimic actions.

[violet elbow]

what do you mean heavies weakness obviously is that it can only oneshot somebody with 2 of its abilities and their guns do slightly less damage for their 50+ round mag sizes

[upper citrus]

wait true and also the slightly less dps made up by having the most health in the game so they win every trade. truly a balanced class

[wooden nexus]

my game crashes after every match

[quick coyote]

@true epoch can u make us a message that we can post whenever somebody says "dead game " like "if u dont like it help us improve with bug report" i dunno u know better cause im getting annoyed they are just spreading negativity for no reason

[lofty crypt]

pls fix this game dude, the cash bug the full round

[astral dust]

does anybody else get this. or is it just me ? ? ?

[shadow wedge]

you cant in ranked

[quick coyote]

isn't that just.. goo
I think one fun idea would be to add a time limit to the vault, and it explodes when the timer runs out. like a hot potato

[serene widget]

I feel like lights definitely need some sort of buff, or the other two classes need to be brought down a bit - it sucks that in the current meta even using a light is considered trolling, when it's IMO the most interesting and fun class out there

[calm crystal]

agree with everything except the lights size, as its a balance thing, they are harder to hit because of their small hitbox, and i dont their proportions looks that bad

[burnt solstice]

heavies RPGing themselves so you dont get the kill needs to be fixed

[swift ginkgo]

Hello everyone

[dusk matrix]

new map

[quick coyote]

pride flag themed cosmetics ❤️🧡💛💚🩵💜

[twilit patrol]

Small but I believe a nice addition to the Quality of Life for the game would be a pop-up for the dailies/weeklies. Whenever I complete a daily/weekly during a game a pop-up would be nice to notify me that I have indeed completed that specific daily/weekly so I can stop going for it since the progress for those dailies/weeklies is a bit not accurate.

For example:
I dealt around 3k damage with the melee weapon during a game for my daily mission of [Deal 1500 damage with melee weapons]. Within that same game, I switch mid way to another weapon since I know that 3k damage with melee is plenty to cover it off. Then I finish up the game go back to main menu to find out that I did only 1390 damage with the melee.

Please add pop ups for the completion of daily/weekly missions and an option to turn those on/off for people who may not like them.

[hallow kite]

buff nukes please i can't wipe out entire teams with no skillz anymore

[quiet scaffold]

Some Feedback i want to give:
I Love it and like to keep spending many hours in it but there are some things i dont like:
When i get in a ranked match, sometimes the game freezes, doesn´t close itself down so i have to ALT F4 or do it over the Task Manager or via Steam.. but when i restart.. here is your penalty! thanks a lot, i would like to rejoin the match but no, instant penalty!
it doesnt freeze on casual but sometimes in ranked it does.. annoying enough, but not be able to rejoin sucks the most
thank you for your attention

[dire apex]

The slow response to C4 killed this game.

[quick coyote]

oh, I almost forgor
<@&1012034066876473384> #👂┇game-feedback message

[alpine tinsel]

lol

[snow tree]

The gas grenades and gas mines need a nerf

[quick coyote]

Oh, and before I forget, fucking delete melee aim assist!!!!

[whole plover]

we need more FCAR skins ❤️ Clawns and Snarls pt 2? ^^

[sleek dove]

There is an exploit which allows lights to run invisibility for the entire game. Now sure how it works but I've played against it multiple times and just had a team mate using the exploit

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[quick coyote]

How come only female characters in this game have booty? Help the boys out please

[nocturne ermine]

Finals is the best!

[golden heart]

Relax bro

[tall flax]

1/Please consider replacing those 2 elements by alternatives:

• invisibility
• stun gun
  None of those 2 can lead to a FUN situation in any way.
  Every single other bit of your game is fun, or can turn into! Even rocketing your own face can be fun! But those 2 never, ever add fun.
  I'm serious I invite everyone to try to recall any time it was in all your last games... That never happens.

So yeah to me incorporating those 2 elements just doesn't fit with your game as a whole, which is soo fun in all the other aspects.
And I see I am not alone asking for this: #👂┇game-feedback message

2/ Punish leavers as we can't report them as easily as other players...
3/ We need feedbacks on actions taken following a report when evidence is strong enough to kick or ban. It would encourage reporting instead of discouraging as it is the case in the current state... Currently you don't even know if they are taken into account...

Playing since the CB2, spent a lot of hours... Playing H, M, L, close mid high range melee (I like it all!)...

@frost.dime @rustic bloom

[fervent coral]

Give everyone a goitch grenade since lights barely used

[tall flax]

@foggy orbit @quick bobcat 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

[muted hound]

anyone experiencing crashes apon finding a match?

[rose dawn]

Sledgehammer either needs a 5-10 damage buff or a greater range. imo

[tight dagger]

15 games asia ranked today, 15 games with multiple cheaters each round.... not worth it anymore; People speculating why the player count is dropping well the game just lost 7 people
Edit- Preface this as to not confuse the americans (iq < cholesterol gamers) , the 6 other people being oce players also dumb enough to queue asia thinking maybe today the cheaters have fucked off

[rose surge]

Do you identify as 7 people?

[astral plover]

Light as a class is far to weak and medium and heavy a far to strong lights can barley compete when your shooting marshmallows at a heavy with 300 health

[delicate pawn]

is there a way to fix animations not staying equipped?

[inner karma]

Use lights mobility. In a gun v gun fight, light will win but if you take 3-4 shots on the heavy, reposition and repeat until he is dead you will win

[twilit patrol]

Im sorry but Ill disagree, Light as a class is the most punishable, high risk high reward and vulnerable. And yes, they are fun actually, you just not playing light.

1. If you play Sniper, in tournaments ranked or tournaments in general, you are trolling. Yes its fun but doesn't lead to wins and only dream scenarios.
2. If you take away stun gun means that light cannot 1 v 1 heavy in any scenario and cannot moderately come close to mediums. Note that even if you stun mediums, the hipfire spread is not that significant and often you will still die.
3. Invisibility is fine as long as you get to know the game better.

An above average player with game knowledge will not struggle against light.

[glad ginkgo]

When we getting the 80% player-base return patch?

[night dune]

17 days

[tall flax]

By fun I mean for the player and the others, not just the fun of just one guy.
Also I didn't talked about purely removing them, but replacing them.
Lol thanks for the condescending finishing I teach you the game son

[upper citrus]

light is the only balanced class in the game and any good player will lose on light against another person of the same skill on any other class at least 80% of the time because they get 500x the value for 1% of the effort. light is the only class that has meaningful downsides

[pliant granite]

The games keep randomly dropping the framerate whenever I played ranked tournament
And it lags so bad that it just straight up crashing the game, and I got penalized for this...

[olive spire]

I played a game where the cash out got stuck under the map. I went into the menu to try find a way to report the game with no luck. I think you should add a bug report feature to the game so you can capture all the information you need easily without relying on users to fill out every detail and hunt down your discord.

[wet herald]

Ranked needs to be elo based. What's the point of playing ranked against diamond players while in lower ranks

[twilit patrol]

Light can be annoying, yes but getting dicked down by anything is not fun. Im not going to ask how you know what is and what is not fun for others, your statement there is purely anecdotal.

By "replacing" those abilities means removing them and putting something else into place. You are essentially removing them so again, they are absolutely fine.

Lastly, its true, anyone with game knowledge and game sense can understand that Light is the most punishable class, high risk high reward, higher skill ceiling to make work on. More or less what @upper citrus said is right. From my understanding, light for you is more annoying other than anything else.

[quick coyote]

Fire the balancing team, thank me later.

[timber dove]

H gets defibbed with more life than L has in total. Also Defib should revive for a flat amount so it's actual fair between classes but alas, enjoy dying in 0.5 seconds with your 75hp defib health.

[kind fern]

im done with the fps drops in first round of tourneys im done\

[tall flax]

I really have nothing against the light class apart from this taser thing and the cloaking ability.
Yeah I'm revising my position on the sniper. I shouldn't have included it.

Yes fun is relative so even a same individual could find a same exact combat fun one day or bad the other.
But trying to define it a bit better, I would say by "fun" I mean I can think "well played dude!" when I die.
That's why Im gonna remove sniper from the list. Cause I can totally think "nice one!" to a sniper shot so... I was wrong
But, with this definition, I personally can't have respect for a nice taser or cloak usage ingame lol I really think I can for every other single weapon/tools

But I'm maintaining my point for the rest

[plush grotto]

Please block python scripts with anticheat. I believe Logitech and another are blocked (can’t remember name right now) and I appreciate it. But anti recoil python scripts are still working (tested in training mode)

[jagged cedar]

high risk low reward

[twilit patrol]

Fair but then again, the taser as time in the game progresses, people are catching up to it. Literally, the maximum distance to connect the taser to a medium, is the distance that medium can hipfire accurately. That is why I tend not to tase mediums with fcar/ak. Even the heavy with lewis gun can accurately hipfire from taser range.

The invisibility cloak is alright, you can hear it now better and literally gets disabled if the light receives 1 point of damage.

All these mechanics are there to compensate for the low hp class.

[olive lodge]

can we not do this please? spent the entire match rubberbanding everywhere

[calm crystal]

Never, that’s fine though. Of course the game is most popular at launch, but those arnt real players. What builds a loyal player base is the players that are playing now, this growth is what matters not the peaks for the 2-3 days following every season release. I expect to see a massive spike when s2 releases, not anything like launch but 2x maybe which will then trail off and spike agin etc etc. That’s fine and that’s healthy

[kind fern]

caught and banned

[snow tree]

Gawd dayum

[viscid owl]

1)there seems to be a bug that makes light invisible under all circumstances, even if they aren't cloaked or attacking n shit

2. i think, because the name jet setters, skates for the medium, like maybe a specialization, but idk. it would be constant fast movement at the expense of not being able to stop easy, you slide longer maybe and you can't really jump

[tall flax]

IDK...

In any case, we still have an issue with the hammer vs stun gun currently #👂┇game-feedback message

[short dagger]

They should add katana

[white sky]

Dont we have katana

[lament goblet]

We have a sword for light it’s not specifically a katana but I bet they could do a katana skin that would be cool

[fervent coral]

GIVE ME AN EMP BOMB OR SOMETHING

[shut kite]

the crosshair is going to make the game terrible like literally people with built in crosshair have a huge advantage over people who dont

[bleak stratus]

Skin packs should really be for all weapons, especially at the equivalent of $15/pack. But the distribution amongst all guns is lacking. When the game launched, both the FCAR and the AKM had two 150c skins. Excluding those skins, the FCAR has received two more skins from store packs, the AKM has received SEVEN plus a new 125c skin. Literally 4x more skins for the AKM over the FCAR.

But really, the skins packs should just be for every weapon and I honestly don't understand why they aren't.

[wispy ingot]

Could u please add keyboard and mouse support on Xbox and ps4

[sinful vessel]

why are we forced to always appear online/no option to ignore any requests by default?

[calm crystal]

?

[torn crest]

Hey i played a game recently and the little objective box got stuck underground, has that happened to anyone else?

[smoky wedge]

I think ranked points gained should be higher. You have to win 3 rounds in a row just to get to final round which is difficult and then you only gain 300-400 if you get second. I think it should be at least 1k for a finals win and 500 for second.

[bronze rapids]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/ggf7xbgfkihc1/pb/m2-res_824p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1708855200&s=daede54e057cc6b073684d11b41adb38a3e3817d#t=0

[shut kite]

bro i keep getting kicked from the game even tho i uninstalled my external crosshair app

[quick coyote]

Diamond should match only with plat Diamond if available
Then plat with diamond and golds
Gold with plat and silver
Something like that. please fix the rank matchmaking next season and also it would be great eliminating additional 3D buildings or environment or whatever its called outside the arena it will just lower our performance and eats fps i guess

[errant flame]

DAY 1️⃣ 1️⃣ since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 2, if not 3 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[daring fossil]

remove spread from LH1 and Revolver. How is it fair that you need pin point accuracy with an LH1 or revolver to kill anything, but half the shots deviate, so many times I die when I had the drop on the enemy with enemy lights using mp5 and mediums using anything surviving with 1-4hp while heavies can kill entire teams with 2 clicks and mediums can kill lights in less than a second while missing half their shots. get rid of the stupid bullshit weapon/crosshair sway. If my crosshair is directly on target and I shoot, my shot should hit. There is too much RNG in a supposed skill-based game where the only skill-based class is light.

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[modern ether]

make a reportable option for throwers and leavers in ranked tournament, happening every game

[grave bane]

Increase the recharge time of the deployable turret or reduce the health