Thing is, you can already tell they're using recon pings, so almost nothing changed at medium range. Also they didn't change the meta AT ALL FCAR ALL DEFIB, ALL MEDIUM, ALL HEAVY. Lights continue to get shit on, like vanish bomb...Are you seriously kidding it's a meme. Good in niche situations but completely countered by wallhacks.
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Lol The sound queue is almost nonexistent especially if there's any background noise
No way your still crying bro. “Recon is too far” they nerf it, still cry. Yall ask for detection on recon andddd still cry like atp your just bad at the game no way you can be complaining before the patch even drops. Plus they gave you guys what yall been btching about without completely removing recon (which would obviously be dumb asf until a replacement was found) and you still cry yall just can’t be satisfied and that’s the problem😭 @past bloom soooo the whole map too around 20% of it of that 1/5 is correct…….yeah yall just crying
I just got this game today, and i cant even run through 1 min of a match before it starts lagging out. Checked task manager and this game is single handedly using up 98% of CPU and memory. Teammates get mad at me because i cant do anything and the game lags out but its not my fault. Graphics settings all on lowest setting. capped at 60fps and at 720p. Still does this stupid stuff.
Cl 40 should not be able to deal damage to yourself, or at least less. Its the worst weapon for medium and that would make it somewhat more viable imo
Also, remove nukes
Go ingame, click spot look at how far 30m is, It's literally almost 1/5th of the map. It's hardly a nerf. And judging by your salt you prolly spam it.
my friend @static latch is going through a mental breakdown because he can't use gyro or mouse & keyboard on ps5, can the developers please fix my friends mental state so we can peak game 
Recon Sense still works within 30 meters
Aight, guess I still won't be back then. Thought this was going to be a rework, not a nerf.
would it be a good idea to switch the c4 and breach charge beetween light and heavy ?
1 c4 on cooldown not 2 c4
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CL-40 shouldn't be blocked by the APS, but should also only do little damage to an APS and take 3 or so shots to take out gadgets to compensate.
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Would be nice to have sensitivity settings for when on a zipline (mostly to help with horizontal tracking) and when recently having hit a jump pad and still mid flight (mostly to help with vertical tracking)
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Would be cool to have a secondary ability for the healing beam (mostly for it to be viable in solo bank it, and even cool if only able to be used in solo queue). Suggestion: something like a charge up (black ops 3 tempest-like) ability that had, say, the effect of a glitch gadget or a stun gun.
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While I understand ya'll are working on skillset placement of ranked tournament match-ups... If you join as a solo-queue, it should be relatively easy to allow just solo-queue contenstants in that matchup. Furthermore and in addition to that, if you join with voice chat off it would be extra cool if you locked that so that you would be unable to turn voice chat on mid-tournament and extend the matchmaking to solo-queue people with voice chat off only... man would that be glorious....? a ranked tournament full of solo-queue contestants with their voice chat off (even extra cool if the skill-set was relative to your own.)
thought the same... kinda disappointing but it is what it is.
I think its ridiculous U cant see what rank your fighting ........like why
I personally think that recon senses should be more like the sonar grenades, except in a cone, and extending further than the sonar grenade. Same ping effect, same detected notification, with the added benefit of teammates being able to see the people pinged as well. 3 uses with a recharge
That is true, I wanna know if the game is literally matching me with diamonds for no reason but we only got the dev's word for it that is actually matches you with more or less your rank. Last update/patch mentioned that they fix that rank they match you up but we can't see it. So they could have indeed fixed it or the problem of matching still persists.
Ok so what is going on with the delays in game. I just had a game where the cashout dissapeard and played the victory music when we had "won" But the enemy was stealing it when it had dissapeared and they had stolen it. the victory music was playing and everything. we had "won" But the game had delayed and the cashout was still active but invisible but the game was still registering with the music for winning?? Devs can we please get onto this ASAP??? Anyone else have this issue?
(My teamates where also having the same delays in game.)
I just won't come back and play, as simple as that 
Life's too short playing a game or doing something one doesn't enjoy
i do believe they're releasing the overhaul (rework) of the Recon in 6 hour along with the Store Refresh (could be wrong though?)
MnK and Input Based Matchmaking for console when? Theres so many people who only play FPS games on console with MnK, and it wouldn't be hard to implement. I've seen quite a few people passionately asking for it on here because their experience was ruined when it was removed. Please give it some serious consideration Embark, we want to play and love your game!
Like im plat 1 tired of getting a bronze and silver teamate every game when i drop 16+ kills and still lose lmao, why cant my lobbys just be plats and diamonds
I'm starting to leave quickplays whenever I get matched with a light. Especially if they are melee based. It's just god awful. No point in trying.
Recon Sense for Medium class needs to be replace with foot prints instead of seeing through walls because how are players going to be able ot tell if there truly wall hacking.
IF YOU GET REZZED BY A TEAMMATE MAKE THE DAMN GUN RELOAD
Give the Heavy a Barret 50. Cal 😏
Qp should have coin limits like tournaments, otherwise lights just gonna infinitely stall the cashbox
Also plz buff light so its viable in tournament/ranked
mouse n key on console? yeah? yeah? yyyyyyeah?
Grenade launcher needs to be nerf with the blast radius and a bit of distance or slow down the fire rate on it
Need 1 PS5 Ranked | Gold+ | Dm me
Add an M4A1 assault rifle for the Medium class
When a player shoots down with the nade it should damage them like RPG
there are channels dedicated to lfg you'll have better luck there
remove nuke
I would love to see a duo mode
please tighten up the hipfire spread on the LH1
can we get a text chat
problem with text chat it becomes a toxic environment.
And? Theres little to non communication for people who play duos or solo. More often than not, a lot of players disable voice chat and we are playing a game with coordination.
didnt realize i clicked the wrong channel by accident
I find "limiting toxicity" with filters and no text chat or anything just makes games even more toxic.. now rather than being called slurs in text chat that I could mute, I get people who purposely lose the game to get at me
It's a fkn video game and the internet, if you cant take being flamed just dont play games or mute the chat
Back when I played csgo people were mad toxic but at least they played the game
in valorant / league people just int games and lose on purpose because they can't flame
No need to swear bro but in all this is the 2024 and Voice Over I.P has been perfected so again no need for a text chat bro. Thats why we have discord and otherr Voice Over I.P programs sorry if maybe you budget doesn't allow for you to buy a headset.
🤷♂️ its a video game. Let people flame eachother if they want to. If you dont want to participate, mute the chat. I personally dont enjoy censoring players.
Obv slurs and wishing harm is too far and def should be punished, but strict text monitoring like in league where you can get banned for calling someone bad is a bit much
Gonna need a text chat. Also light is still a joke/troll class…
my favorite part of the stun gun still has to be how it has literally no counter if youre playing melee
i cant even crouch or jump to make myself harder to hit while im stunned
i have to just sit there and take a full mag until i die which is really unfun
he does, I checked his youtube and literally the only finals video he has he's a recon whore
Worst take known to man kind.
Recon senses is the lazies, most braindead, thoughtless ability they couldve ever added to this game. There is no skill mastery to it. Its just toggle on, know where everyone is. Its not rewarding for people to "get good" with it unlike mastering things like evasive dash and its certainly not satisfying to get lasered through 3 sets of branches because hihi wallhacks. Ability just makes no sense and should be hard fkn nerfed. Id literally be okay with recon senses if that kept it global but made it so you need to pull out a screen to see people and cant shoot at the same time kind of like pulse in siege. Prefires are incredibly unfun and SERIOUSLY need to go
Oh wow.... you get a teamwipe, when someone is getting kicked being afk
Went from whole map too around 20% of it if the 1/5 is correct. Yeahh you really are just crying bud and sounds like you play useless waste of space light i see why. @boreal wagon and yeahhh just cry shttr
meanwhile you'd probably be crying if they remove it because you rely on it to get all of your kills, whose the shitter here? the biggest issue with recon sense wasn't being able to see where teams spawn, although that was a problem, the biggest issue is that there was no ability to flank or use any tactics within close range because everyones running recon and can just poke out a window or around a corner and pre-fire you. The nerf won't stop that at all, now it'll just tell you you're detected which will just stop people from trying to push entirely. adding a shorter range literally does nothing to fix the problem.
All medium meta is sucking a lot of life out of ranked and the game in general. If the alleged patch notes for tomorrow are correct it won't be enough
light is need of a buff
RIOTSHIELD TAKES 10 YEARS TO COME UP
Yea I feel like their weapons are kinda a mess, in a way that doesnt feel reliable when compared to medium lmao
Like, dagger is in a REALLY bad spot.
Meta doesn't describe nothing. How about Medium build needs grenade launcher and recon sense adjusted
no melee buff and dagger bug fix? tf? The update leak just show how ridiculous embark didn't know the melee situation
I'm talking about the class as a whole - little nothing nerfs like you're talking about clearly aren't resolving the issue.
The recon nerf isn't enough, the FCAR "nerf" last week was an absolute joke, the defib "nerf" was an absolute joke. Embark needs to just get rid of the light and heavy classes, get rid of the level destruction, add another placeable gadget or two for the medium class and some Call of Duty style weapon attachments and I guess they'll finally have the game they apparently are trying to make.
Edit: Clown on the sarcasm all you want, the matches have become stale as hell at this point with the large majority of teams being 2-3 mediums running FCAR. Turrets, heal beam, recon, all three abilities are annoying to play against, especially with 3 stacked mediums and its killing the game. See y'all on patch 1.7, or never again, who knows
that just gets rid of half the game man i dont see how that will help
Dont main medium bud you can try that again im just not a shttr all yall crying about ts are bad play the game or dont 🤷🏾♂️ skill diff
where i can post a picture ?, i want show some bug in game
U should have TTV in your name cause u are the most toxic person here
In other words you want a call of duty clone but your also saying you like nothing about this game so why are you even giving feed back like that. Saying getting rid of light class and heavy class as well as destruction your basically wanting a new game. Well hate to break it too you but the game is already been made and there's no changing it kid. My only suggestion is to go play call of duty.
Pretty please embark. Make it so that when you throw a grenade you instantly switch to your weapon, like an rpg or stun gun. Or at least make it an togglable option in the settings
I feel like this game needs more opportunities for guaranteed ways to win for those that not only play better but make less mistakes too. Its not fair that you completely dominate the whole match then 9 players just completely overwhelm you for an RNG cashout.
It was sarcasm, bud. But that's where we're heading - this Recon nerf isn't enough to diversify builds, the FCAR nerf isn't enough to diversify builds, so in another week or two it'll be 12 mediums in every ranked server after the rest of us quit
ALSO - enjoy having "DETECTED" on your screen literally all the time you're near a cashout starting tomorrow.
make it that i can reconnect To a Tournament much instead of just giving a ban for queueing my pc crashed and i wasnt able to reconnect cool fun game 🙂 and i tried straight away would of taken about 2 to 3 mins to relunch the pc and game and still got the ban
do something about the fking Nukes man
Thiss guy gets itttt
@hybrid kraken im so tired of playing against palts and the damn chinese cheaters. Region lock china. put sil agains sil. gold agains gold. why tf is that so hard
Nukes makes the game boring as fu, when you get wiped out of nowhere with a nuke is actually broken, and not fun, most of people literally all they do is carrying a nuke and throwing it, they don’t even need a weapon to shoot.
About the recon, as someone who actually played with a recon since the beta, it’s broken as well, it should be nerfed or make a rework for it, along with the nukes.
More turret nerf!!! I love it when turrets do half the work for the enemy team
All recon needs to be replaced with is glowing foot steps for a limited time.
the finals's last dance patch lol
Nerf Nukes, optimize game, new maps, change maps slightly
My feedback on the finals after putting in over 100 hours of gametime:
This game gets so much right, its absolutely top tier Competitive FPS. It has to be one of the best FPS' that I have played in a long time. So my feedback is very limited but there are two issues which I think is making the game unenjoyable for tournaments. You'll notice I only mentioned tournaments, because I think quickplay is perfect. All the classes work in that gamemode and the one cashout location voids any spawn issues.
The main two issues I have with the game is the spawn locations and the role of the light in tournaments. I'll begin with spawn locations. With two cashout locations, the respawn system tends to be, respawn a team to the closest cashout that they did not previously die at. Therefore, if you attack cashout A and lose, you'll respawn close to cashout B. The problem with this, is that there have been many cases where your team will put in the work to open a vault, move to a cashout without dying and start the process. Maybe a team is hot on your tail, so you then put in the work to defend against them. This is also happening on the other side of the map as well. And maybe, you're successful but not quick enough. The other side of the map finishes their 3v3 before you finish yours. So you've just had a huge battle defending your cashout and before you have time to re-up defences and regen health, another team is already on top of you and doing half the work you did to wipe you. This result is never rewarding, how are you expected to wipe an entire team then do it again without a second of re-upping your defence or health? There has even been the circumstance where you'll defeat both teams who have pushed your cashout, the last team who is processing a cashout on the other side of the map finishes before the two other teams can respawn, forcing them to both respawn on your cashout again. Meaning essentially you defend against four teams and possibly five, if the other team
Having a turret is like having a whole other teammate it’s crazy that a lot of people don’t agree with that those shits are so fucken OP and their tracking on you is insane they almost never break.
@foggy ginkgo finally nerfing turrets is getting some traction I’ve been saying this for a while 😭 I honestly PERSONALLY think it’s more broken than recon but that’s just me anyway it’s not fun walking into a room and having 3 turrets lock onto you ur dead almost instantaneously. I had someone the other day mention that he counters turrets by dodging the turrets lasers, and i personally would love to know in what universe the turrets wouldnt lock on as soon as he entered the room, some people must be playing a different game than me fr.
Theyre broken asf
Healing beam nerf! Turret Nerf! Recon Nerf! Actually Nerf everything just make it counter strike just give us guns 😎
Still no update…
Is it that hard to remove recon and change defib to an ability?
Whenever a medium plays without Recon, you see their true skill level as they wander hopelessly without their eye handicap
IM 2 GAMES OFF DIAMOND STOP GIVING ME FUCKING BRONZE 1 TEAMATES it hurts to watch them play
Content + Remove recon thanks + ur game is dead lol
pushes you.
If you would like me to go into more detail about the spawns, let me know.
Now the problem about the lights. The light class has been created to be played in a very structured way. There are some commandments you must follow to be an effective team member as a light:
- Never take on a gunfight face on unless you have good aim and at least a 1 and a half second headstart.
- Play around the team, to be able to assist with heavy damage without taking any damage.
- Revive your teammates, you are the quickest player, you're able to move tokens much quicker then anyone else.
- Do a shit ton of damage to a team and then rotate. You cannot take on multiple gunfights.
There's probably more but the problem with lights in tournaments is the fact that most players who play them do not follow any of these rules. They are never with the team, they never revive, they think they can win head on gunfights and play the game as if it is Call of Duty. The lights become a hinderence to the team as they're not adding any contribution to winning wipes and playing objective. This is ok in quickplay as there isnt as big of an investment, but in tournaments where you potentially have to play 3+ rounds with a useless light, it makes the game absolutely unejoyable.
I would suggest adding a preference setting, where you can set what classes you want to play with. I think youd quickly see mediums and heavies abandon playing with lights. Lights are just not built for touranments unless played a certain way that 95% of lights do not know how to play.
Recon has a big advantage, but true skills has nothing to do either you’re playing with recon or not, however, I believe that recon is really OP.
The three things I see ruining the game are Recon, NUKES, optimization of the game.
Turrets isn’t that OP, since you can counter it easily, and you can destroy it if you’re taking the good peak, but recon and nukes has no counter.
It’s rare to see a team playing with 3 turrets, if they did, they won’t survive for long, if it’s an open filed cashout, they totally lost, they only win if it’s a short range fight like in a small room.
recent patch killed oce with the mm changes. dont even get recognition that there's an issue. congrats. it seems you've lost a region. hope this game crashes and burns like splitgate. i spit on you all embark
Yeah that's one issue cashout has. One team can be dominating and have one bad fight and completely lose the point. It's very punishing in that way.
Yup and deadass i wanna know how he doin that sht too ts literally locks on and doesn’t let go of ur nuts till ur out of sight
dude Seriously I can't with the crutch on nukes, Just make any carriables wiith c4 unstable and go in a different direction..
Nerf fcar
Please 🙏
I think you have to add more ivents, because it is sometimes can be boring to play only quick cash or ranked.
Nerf lewis and rpg. Heavy is based on defense and destruction. That is the class identity. Why is it also allowed to have the best burst damage in the game and the best sustain damage in the game, while also offering the best defense. Its a team game, leave some power budget for the other classes.
REWORK recon FOR REAL not just a 30m radius.. the issue with recon is prefires, getting shot through 7 trees and the fact that is completely denies flanks (99% of how light is supposed to be played) capping the range to 30m changes none of that.
Nerf fcar.. shit is wild how op that gun is...
If daily/weekly missions would pop up when you press TAB it would be soo good 😗
If cheaters/hackers would get banned when you report them it would be soo good 😗
Recon Sense:
-Non-Togglable
-30sec / 45sec Cooldown
-Loud Constant Audio Cue while in use (akin to invisibility)
This will stop the constant spam scanning which would stop camping and chasing.
The main problem with recon is it's indefinite use due to it's togglable nature.
I think this could really keep the function but stop it's current gameplay abuse.
https://i.gyazo.com/c36de2928dfe5577e6ee68fca07183f5.jpg WHEN DO U FKN FIX THIS GARBAGE RANKED SYSTEM!!!!! and u also have a bug with goo when is already been throwed and on the ground u can get stuck in it
lower red barrel flight speed when attached with c4
New cheat to paralyze the server so that all players who are qualified can not join the battle, my whole team got stuck at the red loading screen when we joined, one team had already made 3 chashouts.
Fr I need some sort of tutorial on that shit 😭 u know just maybe im playing the game wrong but IDK I’ve never had issues with turrets in any other games 😹
Fr, they need better window vaulting hitbox
There has been cases where I try to vault through a window, just to have my character jump on the spot and I just internally die
Or get absolutely destroyed by a chasing enemy player.
Especially when making 90 degrees window vaults. Its extremely inaccurate. Resulting in 2-3 spot jumping.
No problem when I'm running straight into a window though.
Embark, do you know how bad the melee situation is? Buff them or totally remove them. It's ridiculous that you just ignore them in every single patch
Smoking sum if don’t think turret is unbalanced
If you are reading this you have to add killcams to the game or your mother will die in her sleep
cry
BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
- While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
- Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
- Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
- Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)
IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:
- Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger
FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:
- Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
- Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
- Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta
NERF THE DEAD GO BOOM:
- This event is extremly unfair for melee users, you cannot avoid it if you get a kill
- Either increase the time before the explosion to at least 3 seconds OR make it so the explosions don't damage players but only the enviroment
Buffing vanishing bomb does NOT help light one bit. What the hell are you even thinking @balance team
the delusion is unreal
Medium main weep nerf turrets 🗣️🔥
Maybe you should mention your specs as well because right now there's no way to know if your PC is just trash or if it's an actual issue.
Riot shield only needs the tracking fix but not all of those things, maybe an range increase since its true than sometimes its an endless chase
Dagger sounds great, I have been asking for fixing dagger backstab since the game came out
Dead go boom... its a hard one but yeah, at least with melee weapons it should last a little bit longer to explode, making explosion not to damage players its very bad take for the issue
Release the OST please
Atp just remove anything that isnt fcar+recon
kill feed should show more than 2 kills. kind of lame when a team gets wiped but you only see 2 kills in the kill feed lol
Suggestion:
If one player leaves a team the other remaining players should not lose FP if they are eliminated.
Every one here suggests for his own game play 😂😂😂😂
fuck nukes
Remove nukes
Can you guys STOP spawning my team so far away from the cashout when its over 80% complete? enemy teams spawning less than 50ms but my team is spawning 130ms+ every single time
keep nerfing recon and grenade launcher 🙏 REMOVE nukes, make the game skillful pls
you cant choose where to reborn just too stupid
@fickle linden @wheat fractal @feral osprey Release the update
, I have Nama Tama in hostage he is fine.....for now
Apparently they can still one shot heavies, as I found out the hard way
Duos and Quads would be ideal for this game in some sort of modes. It's always 2 or 4 when people want to play this game. I rarely have a 3 tho 🤣
Fix matchmaking before u make more shitty skins
<@&1012034066876473384> STORE DIDNT CHANGE, GET THIS FIXED JUST WAITED 8 DAYS AND FOR NOTHING?
maybe wait for update? its not changing with magic wand
yall are so aggressive
embark should have mental health breaks from this server from time to time
They should just kick anybody with a temper, considering they can't do anything but complain about nothing
Anyone having matching making issues lately?
its not complaining its consumer feedback 😉
@glacial mural doesnt matter, complains = issues in the game, thats how it works. that chat has a bunch of idiots that just bash you for not having the same issues as you.
@opaque patio i dont think there is one tbh, i checked in all the options menus and there is nothing for brightness or gamma
@quick coyote think itll be too buggy, wont be accurate and would frustrate more players to be honest
@sudden tangle was directly from their website
Consumer feedback that contains nothing but brainless wording is no feedback at all, just check #⚡┇the-finals-chat for some good examples
Big update incoming guys
Is today a big update?
option to lower brightness?
Add kill cam
yeah on tournaments and ranked i cannot get a single game. can only play quick cash and bank it. doesnt matter if im in a full 3 or 2
please don't let the leak be it. that is a terrible update if it's the case!
Yea idk what’s going, all I know is they need to figure their shit out
neither
Tottaly agree
@wide kindle Store says "refresh in X:XX" and you say wait for big update? Store should update when it says "Store updates in 0:00"
It's coming with the update later today, like it has done every update
Always the same guy constantly asking for riot shield buff.
They should make separate feedback thread only for consoles.
Do u realize this is an fps game? You're not supposed to run with a shield in your hand blocking shoots charging at people. It's soo dumb
It should be a defensive tool.
they should just change the format to days. so you know its going to be updated today, tomorrow, next week etc but doesnt mean they have to stick with an exact time which would be when the update is going live
Sound like a 5yr at a Toy store. Learn how to type without caps. smh
when is update?
People playing in oce haven’t been able to get a ranked game for 3 weeks so everyone has to play on high ping Asia servers. Hopefully it’ll be on the devs radar to do something about it
When your teammate is the last alive and they decide to leave the game, it should NOT restart your respawn timer, that makes absolutely no sense why it would.
Add server feedback so you guys can work on some servers and improve them so they are more consistent
Is it out yet
embark if this isn't the update that saves ranked i will sadge
Hackers don't get banned.
Whats the point of playing this game, when there is always atleast 1 team in ranked (1/16) who is obvious cheater.
I've met with the same hacker from 4 days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wf3nbz81Bg&feature=youtu.be
@fickle linden @wheat fractal
I guess this is a quality of life update, but would like costum keybinds for all three classes
here is a really crazy idea that no one would've guessed. how about we balance the game so that every class is viable and actually make ranked matchmaking the same as how other games do. just an idea, also why tf do you automatically not opt in voice chat it's a mf team based game
btw nerfing recon to 30 meters while keeping the real time wallhack nature of it does nothing to help light (the weakest class in the game by A LOT). 30m is the sweet spot for most lights to play from (unless lh1 or sniper). So yeah, while you're head is in the right place, you aren't doing much to actually fix this grotesque imbalance.
@fossil walrus disagree, while it will nerf the "i know every players position in the game" aspect of recon (like who thought this should even be a thing?) it won't nerf the preaiming of this ability. this hurts light the most because a preaimed fcar close quarters just instagibs lights. Preaiming also means instawin for any even duel vs medium and even heavy and this is why i think most people will stick to recon (at least 1 per team). Healbeam is strong, but killing stuff is stronger.
Would love it if there was a way to check career progression and weapon progression. Seems like the only thing you can check is the Battle Pass progression
We'll see when we have a chance to test it. You can't be sure until you get in lobbies. It might be enough of a nerf that players take heal beam instead
Feedback is relatively small but it would be cool to equip a face based body pain with the black arms. Maybe seperate body paint into two sections? (face and body)
Genuinely curious. Why do people want kill cam?
To find out easily if the enemy is cheating
Oof sounds like a light issue🫣
please let me spectate entire ranked tournament, instead of kicking me out PLEASE!
Depends on if the distance nerf is enough to make it so that the ability isn't as good. I think it is something that has to be tested considering the fact that some think it's enough and others think it'll do nothing about the meta. We'll have to see
what do you think this change alone will do to the meta? we might be seeing MHH more if they don't do something about nukes, and lewis gun, and auto shotgun, and mesh shields, and dome shields, but M will still remain extremely meta with preaiming and easy mode chase potential as @analog anchor said. MMM, MMH, MHH will still be the meta if Embark doesn't do anything except for the changes that were leaked. Laughable changes at that. 1 sec longer invis for teammates hit by vanish bomb? What is that supposed to do😂 ??
M recon strenght comes from a) information gathering which will still be decent in close quarter engagements, b) from preaiming which won't be getting nerfed at all (or just slightly, since you can't laserbeam people that just spawned 60m away through 32 trees), and c) from chasing low hp enemies which wont be nerfed at all. Recon will still be meta if the leaked changes are released.
Also M strenght comes from insta rez, extremely strong guns, decent HP, decent mobility, decently sized hitbox. There is no reason to not go M over L when building a team. The only reason you go L is because you want an extra challenge, and/or want to grief your teammates.
No glitch nade buffs and proper recon nerfs, and regen buff for light or some other form of buff, and nothing will change about the meta.
I don't get why embark is so afraid to buff light.
You can literally revert Light to OB level of strength and the meta won't change in ranked.
@foggy ginkgo watch embark release the leaked patch notes and call it a day.
I have maybe 2-3 more patches in me, if ranked isn't somewhat balanced by then even my great love and appreciation to this game won't keep me here.
somebody else already suggested this but I think Light should have to wait less time before regenerating HP, or regain a small amount of HP after getting a kill. imo they should be given like 20% HP (30) for a full kill and 5-10% for an assist if more than 70% of damage was dealt by the Light. also increase max controller sensitivity pls & ty, shit is wayyy too slow
Regen yes health on kill, fck no
My biggest problems with the game right now are cheaters and matchmaking. It feels like almost every game I'm either being stomped by premades in the top 2000 or stomped by cheaters. If there are less cheaters and I'm matched with players more appropriate to my skill level, I will enjoy the game a whole lot more.
do people even care about casual gaming? how can that be entertaining for more than 5h a week? Geniuine question. Wouldn't it be smarter to focus on the competitive crowd that has 200-400h in the game already?
"It should be a defensive tool"
Too bad it doesn't even cover you properly 😂
What defense?
Casuals make up the majority of literally every game. If you're talking about balancing then yeah go from the top down. You still need to keep casuals happy or you'll have no community.
REFRESH STORE WE WAITED 8 DAYS FOR NO NEW ITEMS? HOW IS THIS ALLOWED? WHERE IS THE JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!
What build do you use
Hello, in the friends menu you can see everyone who is online on steam but not playing the finals. It’s a small thing, but it would be easier to see who is playing the finals if you want to invite someone for a party.
60 percent cpu usage and gpu usage any solution average fps in low settings 65-75
get a faster cpu/ram
Its called wait for the update bud🤣
If people with these issues started their comment with what CPU/GPU they have it would be so much easier to tell them it's because their pc is shit
@abstract elbow i think timer is reset but update hasn't dropped yet... and las vegas isn't terrible map 😉 edit:and I'm 100% sure you didn't counter 3 cheaters in one game. i have play this game +450h and counter max 3 so you guys take those accuses from hat
The amount of cheaters in ranked tournaments on asia servers is crazy
just played a game w/ 3 cheaters, (2 on 1 team and 1 on the other) crazy as its the same cheaters I queued into yesterday too lol
The amount of cheating on Asia servers in any game is crazy
@fossil walrus ban every region but America 🇺🇸
Mods can we force this American dog to watch their precious stars and stripes be burned in a bonfire
Update is online!
I'd love to see actual interactions with the sponsors. For Example Sponsor Quest which would unlock Sponsor specific Skins, which would boost xp for those sponsor specific quests etc.
HOLY WHAT AN UPDATE!!! DEFIBS FIXED? LAS VEGAS FIXED
ok.you guys are charging real 2 $ for jeans.blue jeans guys..youre charging real money for what should be a free cosmetic. 2$ for digital jeans is the game equiv of festivals charging 20$ for bottled water...
everyone put a thumbs up on this so we can finally add custom games
In terms of light balance in ranked, what a joke of an update. everything else, looking good? I guess? See you next patch!
The update kicked me from the game and I got a suspension 😦
Suspended.
Able to click escape on the victory scene?
it does nothing for me. after X amount of games it add up to quite a lot time spent watching something I care nothing about. I know many players loves it, and it's a great mood booster in that regard, so keeping it is a no-brainer. but having the option to simply press escape would be lovely. for now it just stress me out by being forced to watch it after every game. it makes me understand why so many quit the round right before the game end tbh.
Why double scoreboard after games?
I'm mildly confused by this since it simply feel... redundant. at least in quick cash since neither show more on one than the other, I'm not sure if they give additional info in other modes? but if not, then one of them could simply be removed to save time and comfort.
id say mic proximity chat 😄
So the wallhack is still in game..
And defib - healing medium too.. ?
Okay I’m done with this game 😂
Recon got nerfed so you can't see enemies across the map
Anyways I'll look forward to seeing you in my next match
"Dev note: It should now be clearer for players to tell friendly players apart from enemies and their own footsteps"
HUGE!!
check new update!
👀👀👀
Red barrel nuke is still not nerfed 😦
Aimbot hacker from 10 mins ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhDSi9vDd4&feature=youtu.be
@fickle linden @wheat fractal
Kinda wild how it’s still in the game…
Give lights a regen cooldown buff
It's not fun for the teammate to have a light constantly ratting bc they're half health after getting hit 2 times
It's also not fun for the player to have to wait half the game to finally regen
So please please make it a bit faster it would make light so much more usable
actually a decent idea for a light buff
I was really hoping to see recon senses getting "overhauled" as the devs stated last week, not nerfed. It should have turned into something like a sonar with one pulse but ~20m with a momentary glimpse that shows for teammates too, that way it is less selfish, and fits with mediums role as a support class.
A lot of good bug fixes and some needed qol updates. Nice.
Balancing wise tho, a very underwhelming patch.
Medium is still by far the best class in any scenario since it still has all the utility one could ever want with good health and amazing damage at any range. Recon still a close to medium range wallhack (even tho it was supposed to get "overhauled"), defib still absolutely op for a regular gadget slot and how often you have it.
Light still in shambles.
Conclusion: Medium stacking is still best in slot. So the meta will probably be the same again till the next patch. Which I doubt will be any better. Sad to see.
I just played a game on console and my score has gone from 3000 or 4000 per match to 10.000. Now the game feels GOOD again.
I love that they are adding events but a solo game mode only event is an L imo. i play with my 3 mates every day but now we have to split up to grind it.
hey devs, thanks for listening and nerfing recon. sadly it is still a wallhack for close-midrange combat. but a step in the right direction for sure. now just remove red canister nuke and the game will be so much better to play.
Oh thank god they nerfed Recon Senses! Now the 50 billion light players can finally double barrel invis with no worries whatsoever :^)
I'd say 2-3 charges of a sonar-grenade like pulse with a 20-25m range or something would be excellent. That or you should see a "blob" of team color in the general direction somebody is within a certain range, so can't be entirely sure how close they are. At the moment it can't really be described as "senses", it's more like X-Ray vision
The fps still sucks
Patching the fast swings on the shield but not buffing it in any way to compensate, they removed the only thing making compete against the other weapons 🤡
Ok cool update but was there an audio fix addressed yet on consoles so that we can talk to our teammates? if not then you aren't going to recover any of your player base that doesnt want to use discord or other means to communicate with allies and enjoy the game thus, lowering or even completely dissolving player attention
Mnk on consoles next update pls
Visual clarity
Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point.
I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.
HUD:
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice. In adition to this, and probably wishful thinking, allowing a crosshair when ADS would be very nice personally, and it'd also make the game more accessible for people with vision problems.
QoL
Ability usage:
Please give us an option for "let go to confirm" use for abilities and gadgets. Instead of pressing 3, then left click, then 1, allow us to have the option to use abilities with a single button click, where holding it takes it out, and then letting go uses it, and then it switches back to your main weapon automatically. This is pretty standard for most other FPS games.
Balance changes
Make automated abilities less strong, this mainly just includes mines, i think they should do less damage on trigger, and should detect players hit by it, so it's less immediately punishing to trigger them, but still gives the user an advantage.
Increase health regeneration for all classes. It can be super hard to defend some of the objectives, especially in the quick cash game mode, as you effectively have to win 3-4 team fights in a row to keep the objective.
General nerf to "stall gameplay", this includes a nerf to mesh shield and heal. Players should be punished for making mistakes, and the get-out-of-jail-free-card of holding up mesh shield, and especially in combination with heal beam can completely turn a fight even if they made massive mistakes.
@rare spear @pearl kiln please do you have a plan for keyboard and mouse support on consoles. Will it be restored or it will never be supported in your game. Please kindly address the house about it so we will know our stand, currently we are confused about it. Updates upon updates and nothing have been said about it.
FCAR reticle colour should be customizable or change depending on colourblind mode. A lot of colourblind people can barely see anything through the red reticle
is the xbox update not out yet?
Why no optimisation in patch notes…
ughhh of all the maps for the event WHY VEGAS?!?
another patch without justice to my beloved knives 😔
day 3️⃣5️⃣ of asking for a throwing knives overhaul to increase their viability
**THANK YOU EMBARK FOR IMPLEMENTING ONE OF THE REQUESTED CHANGES, BUT WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.. **
the throwing knives deal great damage but the problem comes from the clunkiness of the projectiles and the inconsistency of their behavior.
some things that could be done to resolve this issue:
🔪 slightly reduce projectile drop off
🔪 slightly increase projectile speed
🔪 allow right click to be held
🔪 tweak animations to feel more impactful, they feel very weak. almost as if you're throwing spoons 🥄
P.S. we would love a spoons skin
please show some love to this weapon embark! see you all on day 36!
I was really hoping to see recon senses getting "overhauled" as the devs stated last week, not nerfed. It should have turned into something like a sonar with one pulse but ~20m with a momentary glimpse that shows for teammates too, that way it is less selfish, and fits with mediums role as a support class.
recon still unplayable against 
^^^ loved solo bank it and basically only ran that. Now gotta go back to playing with randoms who may or may not help out
question: is this the only change being done to recon?
Recon senses nerf is a joke, 30 meters is still a shit ton of distance plus its main problem (being literally a wall hack) hasn’t changed.
Hahahha
@pearl kiln wake me up when L isn't a joke class in ranked.
Hopefully not, and hopefully they remove nukes soon
The two best changes in 1.6.0:
- Increased the size of various grenade projectiles, to make them easier to see in combat
- Updated footstep audio and mix for the player, teammates, and enemies
@rare spear @pearl kiln please do you have a plan for keyboard and mouse support on consoles. Will it be restored or it will never be supported in your game. Please kindly address the house about it so we will know our stand, currently we are confused about it. Updates upon updates and nothing have been said about it.
I didn’t played after the latest patch…is it annoying when a recon user press his ability every 5 seconds? (You get a notification now)
No news to share on this at the moment! 🙏
🎈You Get Kicked Out Of The Game If You Press A Button Faster Than 0.02 Sec Delay
Remove recon sense
So basically I am inhumanely fast? TY ♥
you have to do something against the steady falling player base
📉📉📉
LMAO just played 1 steal the spotlight and got sixth but it put me straght from lvl 40 to lvl 50 by playing 1 game
Cool the game not launching after the EAC screen is back, guess I just don't get to play the game after every patch.
please collab with yeezy devs 🙏
lol embark 1weeks just noting????
fk recon still fk OP Seriously ESP game kk
everytime detected r u kiding?
GRAVE DIGGER SKIN? SHOVEL SKIN FOR HAMMER? COULD BE MOST EPIC
Way better than before. No more map wide wall hacks
They didn’t nerf mesh shield and nukes !! 😂😂
Emote:
Pls make a emote that put my hand outward so i can rp patting my medium hend because he save my self once too many times
my shocked face when people aren’t playing the game at 9am on a Wednesday
my shocked face when people are playing palword cs2 dota pubg apex etc. etc. but not playing the finals with new update at 9am on wednesday. How could that happen?
please give us an advanced replay tool of matches, so we can watch back our games, hide ui elements, watch from third person, etc. and without the CRT filter ontop )))
Please add an option to stay in current game mode (lobby) and not force back to the main menu after every match.
please add Light to ranked. that vanish bomb 1s duration buff didn't do shit. neither did nerfing recon to 30m.
The game has been dropping off but palworlds relatively speaking just came out, and the other games have had large player bases for years
Make a text chat so u can DM people in lobby or a text below their name telling us that they are in ranked games and what stage are they now
Recon Senses should have been overhauled to have a sonar pulse originating from the player with ~20m of range and a momentary glimpse of enemies that shows for teammates too, that way it is less selfish, and fits with mediums role as a support class while not being oppressively overpowered to play against.
Heya, I just recently tried the new gyro controls in 1.6.0 and here are my thoughts so far.
This is coming from someone who has over 6 years of experience with gyro aiming.
DAAANG, it's very good! I can tell that you folks took a page from Jibb Smart's documentation, especially with some of the settings like gyro sensitivity using real world scale, and gyro steadying/smoothing, which is honestly a good thing considering how most games like Apex on Switch haven't got it right yet.
Though right now, there are a few features lacking, specifically Gyro Ratcheting, Flick Stick, and maybe Player Space orientation. I'd really love to see gyro ratcheting, as someone who has been actually playing with a single joycon.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, could the vertical ratio and zoom multiplier work in 0.01 increments instead of 0.1? There may be some players that may want values like 0.75, 0.66, or 0.83 for those settings.
Give lights a regen cooldown buff
It's not fun for the teammate to have a light constantly ratting bc they're half health after getting hit 2 times
It's also not fun for the player to have to wait half the game to finally regen
So please please make it a bit faster it would make light so much more usable
Oh and also improve the crosshair
It's not needed but makes the experience soooo much better
Remove nukes
recon should be like bloodhound's ability from apex
Hello i dont know where to ask, but i have problem with the new patch
i have error " A tool for debug is activate "
Add a visual audio option PLEASE
Crossplay is bugged agian
It is a shame, really. This feature should be there since launch. We hope for the next update 🤞🏻
People would complain and say its too much grinding lol
i'm just kinda sad that they didn't remove nukes from game. red barrel can still 1shot whole squad in game where avg ttk is 2sec. and also didn't fix stupid matchamking when u play g p d and always have 1-2 bronzes in your team. Anyways, gonna go try new update now
Are nukes fixed?
Instead of nerfing nukes, inrease APS turret range by x2. However, only have it block a certain number of projectiles. Like 1 projectile every 3 seconds before the rest go through. This way it can't literally counter 10+ nades in a row which would be silly, but it can has large enough range to cover nukes and rpgs and flanks
change this to a medium or heavy. don't mislead new players into thinking light is a viable class
What balance team doing? Just play one round dagger and tell me it's good.
I'm just sad CoD's still the only deathmatch out there and others are dead
Light is so OP to get 30-40 kills wym
So you wanna tell me that "the awesome new content" for the midseason (which is supposed to keep me captivated and hyped for the game)
is just a limited version of the solo bank it mode and recolored and pre existent skins?
I really love this game! since the first closed beta btw
And Im aware of the small developer team but those updates are really cheap
30m is not a lot on recon now they cant see to the other cashout and 3rd party you. Also deteced on your screen is cool
W update @queen rover unfortunately true
I would really like to see a brightness setting, the birhgtness in this game is super bright. If you're indoors and you look out the window you cant see 2 feet in front becaause of the blinding light, while anyone outside can see you perfectly and beam you.
Still waiting for TURN OFF hit markers option.... 🥹 @dense gulch
Would have been nice to have most of these changes before most of the player base quit lol
I have reboot and same way, i have close max thing
to say to me i have debug tool activate its nice, but tell me what debug tool -_-''
Worth solo bank !!!! Back light and medium PPLLZZZ
Remove recon sense. Now i got that dumbass ”detected” effect on my screen every fight 🤡 its still wallhack what you can spam all time
recon sense rework my ass. It was a pretty lame ass nerf like most of them have been
One of worst nerf ever i seen(recon dropped like 90% range)
how about improving audio? footsteps etc
@dull torrent its still bad thats why im saying it 😄
Heavy weapon idea a pair of boxing gloves, you can come at this with two different styles. One: primary fire controls the left fist and secondary controls the right fist. Second: primary fire switches between left and right fist and the secondary would be a devastating uppercut that does a ton of headshot damage and slightly better body shot damage.
Read the patch notes✌️
I LOV E THE ANIMATION
If we could get a play of the game now that would be amazing
Dont think recon is getting removed before invis stuff gets removed atleast lol
red barrel nukes are actively ruining the new solo gamemode
Dude these consistent updates have been so good.
I love Embark so much.
The most useless rework. You nerfed it this isn't a rework, rework is changing it to pulse. Not distrance cap. They didn't listen to the actual grievances, Prefiring, Removal of all flank mechanics, game sense crutch. Nope just distance cap. Unless you're fighting in Seoul or Skyway stadium, this distance cap is useless in Las vegas or Monaco
Why didn't the update bring the mouse and keyboard to consoles again??? If you really heard the feedback, it should be back now, or with ok support, do you intend to do that at least...?
Yes we need that as fast as you can #add mouse and keyboard support
how you guys, devs, do not understand your own game and youre adding gamemodes like steal the spotlight which is even worse than solo bank it?
Force people playing the class they don't want to play is wild
True
Good update please kill red barrel nukes next time thanks xoxoxoxo
Open update, c4 nukes untouched, time to wait for 1.6.1
How is recon senses overhauled? It was just nerfed. That combined with dagger being completely unreliable makes that and other melee weapons almost impossible to us. why is reconsenses still toggleable? why is there still wallhacks? why is dagger backstab and hitmarker still not fixed???
☝️
Just played a tournament after the update and got stuck between rounds "waiting for another game to finish". Had to restart the game to resolve. Has never happened before today.
Can yall add beards. I want to play as moistcritikal. And please add more multiplayer game modes like a longer version of quick cash pls?
i am surprise. dev ruined this game. with stupid nerf. how come they didnt nerfed yet c4 on barrel yet but recon nerfed like 90% less range. @pearl kiln @dense gulch
nerf everything lesgooo. soon only pure aim skill wil run the game. all gadgets being nerfed to deal 0 dmg.
c4 isnt nerf at all
c4 on barrel needs another patch... you can still kill 2/3 people even through walls
C4 nukes, 149+149+fire,
0 counter play if you both swing the same LOS on even ground. Please remove gadgets on throwable objects
It DRAMATICALLY reduces the amount of info you can get and the game tells you when you are detected, I think these are good steps
Or make it possible to catch them and throw them back at enemy
right, previously you could even use it strategically to figure out which vault or cashout to go to right at spawn which is insane
i think its rly cool that embark is rolling out consistent updates based on players feedback:]]
They didnt do ANYTHING to recpn senses bruh.
i think the patch is good but i wish i saw something about ranked games not having sbmm, anyone notice if it works now? they said last patch it was added but def wasnt
They added Audio to the invisibility from the vanish bomb yes they buffed the uptime by alot but I REALLY prefer the no audio „invis“ I mean you are still visible over the uptime please revert the audio for vanish bomb
Loving the regular balancing reviews and implementation by the devs! Amazing response and turnaround times! Only a sideline gripe but the Shop is the one area which needs to allow people to buy individual items, rather than be committed to bulk buys. Have both but with the bulk buys being more cost effective than individual purchases... I'd love to support Embark by making in-game purchases but not for entire outfits when I only want one or two items...
Yo guys hear me out, nukes a much op now, they are fun but they are ruining the balance of the game. how about we switch the c4 and breach charges (with a buff) along the heavy and the lights? light will be more played and nukes are more risky.
this one i agree with lmao. me a gold 2 another gold 2 and a plat 4 were matched with pookout and solved
why is embark willing to die behind this recon shit just disable it already holy fuck
@boreal cove Don't ping random Embark employees.
How can you release skins for other weapons every time, but never for the FCAR? 🙃
ppl.who are crying that recon haven't been nerfed are creepy stupid. i main med an usually use recon/sometimes swap to healgun. the strongest point of recon is that u can have info where are more enemy teams,which cash u should contest,which you shouldn't. now it's useless. 30m is nothing. it's not even range between 2 buildings in casino. for me recon is dead. and somehow nuke shit is still in the game and matchmaking in ranked is still dogshit. great job embark,tyvm. this is the biggest time im thinking of stopping playing this game after 200hours
tldr: i don't really care abt recon nerf. still can play without it.but the other 2 problems i managed are still in game for some reason: nukes+terrible matchmaking. and recon is so dogshit now,that u can think that medium has 2 class abilities now instead of 3
anyone have fps problems with the new patch?
NEW UPDATE
- new level cap +
- recolor items -
- new mode - (no wonder half thew lobby leaves every game)
- shop tiems +/-
- event - (mid items/gamemode)
1.5/5
APS turret
remove nukes
Can we wall jump???
Suggestion for 1.6.5: hear me out Embark, instead of nerfs and buffs for weapons, can we just get NEW weapons?
Not enough time on controller, weapon swap and look are the same thumb
Skilled players will still be able to use recon and have a huge advantage, unlike yourself. That being said, great patch!!
New update blows
- New mediocre gamemode
- c4 barrels untouched
- cheaters not even mentioned
- dead go boom is still in the game
👍 we are so cooked
Call me when next update coming. Literally not fun to play with, I don't want to suffer anymore. At least you try hard.
Nukes are not that broken. Whether nuke or RPG, you just got to see it and bait it out. As a Light, i do it all the time now since before i would die.
If ypu keep shooting knowing they are eyeing you down as its in their hands, its your own fault you died.
dafuq
Untouched nukes, recon is still bad, suppar "new mode" (bank it with braindead heavies).
wrap it up, its been a good run lol
You added 9 languages to the game. I want you to add Turkish as well. You have made many advertisements and found advertising faces in our country. But when the game was released, it was released without Turkish. This is unfair. To fix this, you should add my native language to this game.
I see you've subscribed to the everything I don't like is cheap, braindead and takes no skill school of gaming
claw/paddles fix that. or gyro.
@proper ore c4 barrels were seriously nerfed and are not too hard to dodge.
@gleaming marsh recon isn't map wide anymore its still a bit op but fine imo. they have to try different modes to test what works dont forget this is their first game.
@wanton dove The matchmaking needs fixed. Nuke is not that crazy anymore as long as you aren't staying on top of each other. recon is mostly fine now. The season pass is my fav ive seen in any game for a while. light does need a buff.
still no throwing knives buff😭
Don't know what they did to nukes but in the new gamemode sometimes when I launch a nuke, NO MATTER THE DISTANCE it still blows me up. (I just found out that the C4 falls to my feet when launch it from a red cannister, only happens when placed on the valve of red can though)
Another update another disappointing shop drop👎🏾
Good
I'm taking a long break from the finals until I see the game is fixed. I have no hope.
Embark. You are Game Developers. Not Cheat Developers.
🔸 Hire 1 gamer who knows how to play a competitive game
🔸 Remove Recon. Recon = Wallhack = Cheat.
🔸 Remove Nuke. 1 gadget shouldn't wipe entire team instantly.
🔸 Balance every weapon and gadget.
🔸 Make console players happy. That's your income.
🔸 First season pass is terrible. Make it better. That's your income.
🔸 Light class needs love. Not nerfs like you did in first big balance patch. 🤯
🔸 Learn what ranked game is. Max rank and min rank can't play in same matches. What's the point of ranks ?
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it's not fair for this thing to exist in game,where ttk is +- 2secs. all of you super high skill player are talking abt baiting it out or do something but there will always be moments where u fight other team or get caught off guard and get tripple/double nuked. and it's funny how everyone mentioning my words abt nukes,but noone said anything abt terrible matchmaking. and for ppl who are talking: bro just use aps... for you i can say 1 thing. if u stay in middle of aps and the guy throws a nuke and click it before c4 reaches aps range it will still deal tons of dmg to you. also if nuke are balanced etc...etc.. why all the heavies are using only 1 same build every game?
ah also forgot to mention about terrible ingame communication. recently i played solo q and found a good teammate. he added me but i started new game,and wanted to message him to wait a bit,but i can't. i can't see his steam name,i can't message him ingame. the only way to contanct is to join a lobby and talk in voice chat)
Seperate queues by input type not platform
A break from the game sounds better every day. Recon senses needs a rework, not a nerf like you did. Also nukes.
https://steamdb.info/app/2073850/charts/ good job dev. lot of players quit.
Was really looking forward to an actual recon change instead of trying to get good positioning as a light, to play light like the devs designed it. But nope med press 1 button know where I am and they have a faster ttk than I have against them with more range… cool btw heavy’s and red barrel nukes are 40%of my deaths also soooo cool…
I love everything about this update and every update they did up until this point, to the devs you are doing such a good job on a new game and don't forget that
Continue whining. Its normal that alot of players rush into a new game and then leave, beacuse these people are always in search for the golden nugget that will keep them entertainted of their bored lives. Not happening
update for social : show when friend is in game and online on steam and online in game it would be helpful so you can wait for your friend
Better to check REAL stats
u checked only finals it was your biggest mistakes
In Monday started wokring weeks, so ALL games lost their onlines after 30 Jan
@wanton dove Skill issue
They won't listen to it. Embark don't know what is cool what is attracting. Nerf dagger at the beginning and give us cool knives with very bad accurate. And then ignore them entire season pretend they are balanced.
the new mode is just nerfed bank it
I was really hoping for mnk on console in this update devs you let me down 🙃🙃🙃
The devs let you down because this singular update didn't add a feature there was no mention of them adding? That's uh, something.
thanks for adding gyro and actually programming it to be actually like a mouse instead of those other ps4 games that do it wrong making it feel sluggish (looking at you resident evil 4) anyway there currently no option to pause the gyro so i can reposition my controller without affecting the camera hopefully you add that in a quick patch, flick stick would be a nice extra bonus but i understand if it seems OP and not added.
What we're lacking are patches dedicated to balancing the sandbox, a lot of weapons, gadgets, and specializations need a lot of attention, and giving us one or two changes per patch isn't enough for us, look into less powerful stuff like dagger, riot shield, m60 etc...
Just when you thought they added hard point they add bank it for tanks 😒
Welp thats where u fcked up playing a waste of space light 🫡 sounds like a light problem bud. Then buff light stop sitting here crying about recon all day @silver granite
Lights in the game there for it’s a problem with the game..
remove nukes
Remove Nukes
Yo guys hear me out, nukes a much op now, they are fun but they are ruining the balance of the game. we have to keep them but how about we switch the c4 and breach charges (with a buff) along the heavy and the lights? light will be more played and nukes are more risky.
Skill issue
Nukes are the least skilful way to net kills wtf are you talking about?
Toggle cross-play -> Toggle cross-input
We dont toggle off cross play because we dont like PS4 or Sony, we do it because we don't wana play against robot aim.
Gyro addition is excellent and works really well, but still no option to increase max sensitivity for non-gyro players
I don't care about nukes, recon or the next broken item.
Why the fuck does the game not give us the raw numbers for stats?
gamemode suck . stop forcing people to play
Great start with the recon patch, unfortunately any skilled player can use it and gain a massive advantage during a cash out phase, whether it’s offense or defense. Recon should be removed entirely from the game, I promise we don’t need in-game wallhacks to enjoy the finals
Yes please
I can see where you're coming from but that does go against the "destruction oriented" nature of the heavy. Maybe swapping the stack size of the c4 and the breaching charge will make it more balanced? Light gets 2 breaching charges because they do less damage and heavy gets 1 c4 so it can't one-shot anything on the map.
Charms and stickers are straight up filler. It’s feels like getting them is just for filler content, you can’t even really see them while you’re playing because they are so small
I understand than people is angry at Recon, its literal wallhacks but why so mad at nukes?
People keep asking for removing them like it were some kind of cheats, it could be addressed in a proper way by reducing C4 hp instead, so it explodes with 1-2 bullets and that's it, it would be dangerous for them as much as for us
For recon, yeah, it needs to be reworked, nor nerfed as it is right now, its the easiest way to play since you have literally what other games claim as a hack
Happy to see people hating on c4 barrels in mass, used to yall having the worst opinions known to man
😊
C4 barrels are balanced now, nerf already happened
Because adding fun ways to counter isn't enough, the game needs to be less fun for everyone.
Match History, Text Chat, Online/Ingame/Away status for friends list, are simple quality of life things this game should probably have.
Other than that, as a casual player I feel like the game, while fun at first, gets pretty repetitive and would need more content in general like maps, weapons or even gamemodes
Especially fun viable weapons. Buff grenade launcher, give a little more speed to melees to make them more useful in chases, maybe idk. As for new weapons, the game is set in a futuristic game show, you should use that to have some new fun weapons that you wouldn't expect in a classic fps like Bows & Arrows, Crossbows, Whips/Lassos, Chainsaws, Boomerangs, pirate cannons or whatever go wild with it embark
And make the fun weapons that are already in the game more viable.
Oh and, team oriented game events. Like bonuses you could pick up around the map to have events to help retake cashouts wehn you're behind. Nothing too OP, of course, but it could add new ways to make each game feel more unique, give new ways to comeback and fit the theme.
custom games
People don’t like nukes because they require no skill to use and they have basically no counter play. A game with a high TTK shouldn’t have a brain dead one shot mechanic that can wipe full teams.
There’s a reason the majority of top players want it gone :)
The fact that people defend nukes just baffles the mind. I can only assume it’s from people who rely on it for easy kills
Balance issues aside, the new shop update is sick. Now I can look like an Asian gangsta
Guys, I have a few questions regarding the game.
- Will the devs ever balance out the health of builds in the game, if not, why?
- Why doesnt the game have weapons that you can add attachments to with your choice?
EDIT: can some of you guys tell me pls 🙂
More team game modes next please, wanna play smth new with friends
If people insist on keeping nukes, then add more risk to them, make c4 have 1hp and easier to hit, so there is a greater risk vs reward
recon nerfs are good, ty devs
They added Audio to the invisibility from the vanish bomb yes they buffed the uptime by alot but I REALLY prefer the no audio „invis“ I mean you are still visible over the uptime please revert the audio for vanish bomb
Just won a game on ranked and didn’t get any fp is it bugged
I feel like there should be a buff given to ranked teams who only start with 2 instead of 3 people. happened a couple of times now and its really frustrating because holding/taking a cashout is just so much more difficult.
Other games have implemented this already. Just something small so you can still get to the second round at least.
Is it possible that crossplay is broken again? I’m on PS5 playing steal the spotlight with different platforms but crossplay is turned off.
If you want to get one shotted with no skill keep nukes. If you want to get wiped by one heavy keep nukes, if ypu want double heavy and one Medium as a Meta build keep nukes. Everyone having more than 100 hours in this game is in Favor with removing nukes. Top 500 leaderboard is full of people who want to remove nukes. Its silly, its overpowered. The only counter is an aps what does not work everytime and the rocket launcher which is also Part of heavy. Dont know who really thinks it should Stay.
still no kbm support on consoles?
Thank you for the 1.6.0 update!
text chat is still needed
Visual clarity
Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point.
I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.
HUD:
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice. In adition to this, and probably wishful thinking, allowing a crosshair when ADS would be very nice personally, and it'd also make the game more accessible for people with vision problems.
QoL
Ability usage:
Please give us an option for "let go to confirm" use for abilities and gadgets. Instead of pressing 3, then left click, then 1, allow us to have the option to use abilities with a single button click, where holding it takes it out, and then letting go uses it, and then it switches back to your main weapon automatically. This is pretty standard for most other FPS games.
Balance changes
Make automated abilities less strong, this mainly just includes mines, i think they should do less damage on trigger, and should detect players hit by it, so it's less immediately punishing to trigger them, but still gives the user an advantage.
Increase health regeneration for all classes. It can be super hard to defend some of the objectives, especially in the quick cash game mode, as you effectively have to win 3-4 team fights in a row to keep the objective.
General nerf to "stall gameplay", this includes a nerf to mesh shield and heal. Players should be punished for making mistakes, and the get-out-of-jail-free-card of holding up mesh shield, and especially in combination with heal beam can completely turn a fight even if they made massive mistakes. More info here: #👂┇game-feedback message
Nerf nukes further or remove them completely; still too strong. They're still vital to high level play, as you don't get punished very often for running around with them, and even if they're not successful every time any more, even the chance starting a team fight with at least 1 enemy down is huge.
Change recon further; you only fixed half the problem. The untouched problem is that you'll still get perfectly prefired during teamfights defending/pushing points, which still makes it a vital pick.
medium should have the breach charge while light should have the jump pad or zipline. it makes more sense for medium to be a break and enter type of class.
Whats the aim assist change on controller can someone explain
I've also felt it makes more sense for light to have jump pad and zip line. As a medium main I love my zip line but for the sake of class balance it would give light a huge buff to their team utility (which they greatly lack) and further play into how they are supposed to be the most mobile class. It really doesn't make sense for medium to have these gadgets.
Recon needs a full rework or removal. This isn't enough
most of my friends stopped playing the game just because Nukes existed. You should not be able to wipe a full team in less than a second in a game like this, i dont get how the devs are not seeing this. At least if they want to keep nukes in the game keep em, but remove it from ranked gameplay. Everyone will be happy then, the casuals that find it fun to nuke will still have it this way.
Only casuals are thoses who don't know how to counter them
There's other ways to deal with thoses than asking for the 54th nerf to C4 or trying to tank them with your forehead
The game is fun but there's way too much crying and complaining about balance and nerfs instead of learning in-game counters
15 minutes cooldown is crazy
Better gameplay then the top leading games atm, great gunplay, but mediums health seems too low for its dps and puts it in an uneven limbo between heavy and light but other that great game
It would be nice if a dev can acknowledge this channel and say what they plan to do next week like they did last week with their “recon rework”
Hopefully next update
All those people who disagree are people who cling to their easy win-cons, you got it man
Lol Which top leading games are you looking at
as opposed to the people who cling the their easy kills with nukes?
@silver forge believe it or not someone unironically made that exact argument a couple days ago
What do you mean? Nukes aren’t easy kills? First you need to put C4 on a barrel (hard) then you need to throw the barrel in the general direction of an enemy (hours of practice to perfect) then you need to detonate the C4 (Diamond lobby tech)
They added Audio to the invisibility from the vanish bomb yes they buffed the uptime by alot but I REALLY prefer the no audio „invis“ I mean you are still visible over the uptime please revert the audio for vanish bomb
love all the update stuff, love the direction the game is going
think everything done thus far is super justified for nerfs, i suspect in a more fair meta defib, gas, and likely cloak will need to get hit
something like 2 meds cant defib the same heavy in 5 seconds
gas, contact damage, range, or other?
cloak still feels really really good, getting shot while in cloak might take 1 sec or 0.5 sec off of it
game is really fun and im very excited to see where its going
Amazing work BTW!! Love the animation, love so much.
2 major issues:
We dont want to disable crossplay but cross input
Ban IP + Hardware not account
Recon Senses Nerf summary:
"Ehy you're getting wallhacked! They know where you are, prepare to die (:"
20% of pistol bullets are silent
need less c4 dmg and less hp on heavy mesh shield 500hp is plenty
Visual clarity
Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point.
I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.
HUD:
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice. In adition to this, and probably wishful thinking, allowing a crosshair when ADS would be very nice personally, and it'd also make the game more accessible for people with vision problems.
QoL
Please give us an option for "let go to confirm" use for abilities and gadgets. Instead of pressing 3, then left click, then 1, allow us to have the option to use abilities with a single button click, where holding it takes it out, and then letting go uses it, and then it switches back to your main weapon automatically. This is pretty standard for most other FPS games.
Medium currently have the most amount of "must pick" gadgets, and i think they should off-load some of them to other classes to promote diversity. Every medium is running defibs and pads, which really only leaves one slot open for something "fun" if you don't wanna throw. Light and heavy only really have 1 must-pick each.
Balance changes
Make automated abilities less strong, this mainly just includes mines, i think they should do less damage on trigger, and should detect players hit by it, so it's less immediately punishing to trigger them, but still gives the user an advantage.
Increase health regeneration for all classes. It can be super hard to defend some of the objectives, especially in the quick cash game mode, as you effectively have to win 3-4 team fights in a row to keep the objective.
General nerf to "stall gameplay", this includes a nerf to mesh shield and heal. Players should be punished for making mistakes, and the get-out-of-jail-free-card of holding up mesh shield, and especially in combination with heal beam can completely turn a fight even if they made massive mistakes.
Nerf nukes further or remove them completely; still too strong. They're still vital to high level play, as you don't get punished very often for running around with them, and even if they're not successful every time any more, even the chance starting a team fight with at least 1 enemy down is huge. #👂┇game-feedback message
Change recon further; you only fixed half the problem. The untouched problem is that you'll still get perfectly prefired during teamfights defending/pushing points, which still makes it a vital pick.
I guess that the recon nerf today was good. Decreased range, you cannot spam it anymore, enemys get a notification
What counter exactly? Shooting them? Wont work 90% of the time specially because they would be on a jump pad and you 0.5 seconds to shoot the c4 which u can barley see btw. APS?! Shit is useless brother i die 50% of the time to nukes while APS is right next to me so idk what you are talking about
New mode is already LOADED with cheaters. Fantastic. I've also noticed that "Blocking" the cheaters does nothing, as they arrive in my next match usually.
That's the whole game bud. Out of the WHOLE amazing 40k players we got, most of those are in Asia and cheating. Sprinkle in a healthy amount in EU as well and probably close to 1/3rd of the steam numbers are cheaters. And those are just the ones that are OBVIOUSLY cheating. There are tons of people who "legit cheat" so they can try to play it off as they are just gods. There was an entire article in the AI sector of stuff that 1/3rd of ALL FPS GAME PLAYERS are cheating. This game would obviously be no different or exception.
Mesh shield
Dome shield
Any kind of barricade or cover
Shooting them does work
Shooting/detonating any kind of explosive, mine or grenade will nuke the enemy heavy ( and his teammates if they are near him, i got wipes many times that way )
Instantly placing an APS at your feet only takes literally two key-presses
Stun gun
etc.
Dude below me sounds stupid and is probably bronze ranked, even a single explosive mine will insta-kill a full health heavy carrying a nuke
dude really said mines counter nukes LOL
@honest raptor nice bait
@sharp belfry give one C4 to Heavy so he can't OS with a nuke, nukes would still be part of the meta like the rpg without being an absolute crutch like they are right now
I have never been killed by a nuke get better i guess bro
oh,you better try to play the game then. like start a ranked game or something. i would've never been killed by nuke if i only sit in discord/ingame main menu 🤡
For those who want nuke removed, what exactly do you mean by that? A lot of you just face rolling keyboard saying to remove the nuke with no actual suggestion for what should be done about it. And a lot of you have never actually used a nuke and it shows.
Why remove it when you could just make carriables with gadgets attached super volatile and the game is more fun for everyone?
People complain saying this or that will kill the game but it's that attitude that kills games by stripping away everything that makes it fun so it can be as meta as possible for the "top 500 players".
OH SHIT YOU’RE RIGHT. I never thought about that, next time someone nukes me, I’ll just not die.
NEW GAMEMODE LOOKS SICK
but still no text chat:(
Nukes nukes nukes. Recon spam. I wish someone else took their destruction tech and did something else with it. Playing against constant Nukes and constant recon prefiring is not fun.
bronze teammates as diamond4, please man. fix your matchmaking system
New game mode is absolutely awful
they just limited wallhack to 30 meters? lmao, its still wallhack that lasts FOREVER, make it NON TOGGLABLE or make person who uses recon emit loud sound like invis!z
WHERE IS GRAPPLE BUFF THAT WE ASKED YOU FOR TWO MONTS? WHERE TF IS RECON REMAKE THAT WE ASKED YOU 2 MONTS? YOU DID NOTHING AS ALWAYS, GAME ALREADY LOST 80% OF PLAYERBASE, YOU KILLED GAME, L
can we have a key binding to mute ingame sound please?
It is non togglable. When you activate it now you have to let it run till it’s over.
And no one ever asked for a Grapple buff
Add kbnm back to console 😔
Tbh the recon change is fair
Recon shouldn't be active during ADS, or it should have gone in 0.65 second pulses, or anything else that would constitute an actual rework and not just a range adjustment
healing beam:healing doesn't stack.Healing is paused for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg. environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd. Prevent mercy syndrome
Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message
Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse
db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message
1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook
Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message
Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.
option for dark flashbang
Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish
Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK
Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address
built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss
Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message
In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)
Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)
Visual Clarity and gunsight fix:#👂┇game-feedback message
#👂┇game-feedback message
ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key
event suggestions:#👂┇game-feedback message
did you play the game for 2 hours total ? only stun gun work properly
Mesh shield does not block nukes damage explosions
Dome shield does not block nukes damage explosions
Any kind of barricade does not block nukes damage explosions
cover work only if you're far enough (40+ meters to run away) otherwise you'll die even if you run behind a cover.
Shooting/detonating any kind of explosive, mine or grenade does not work (it's assuming the guy don't see you while throwing these)
Shooting them barely work
Instantly placing an APS at your feet barely work (you have to place it before hand) (and it does not block nukes radius explosion)
RPG work against C4
stun gun work against C4 (if you stun him before he throw it at you ofc)
What’s the point in having any fun with anything in this game if you guys just keep nerfing the damage on everything
I really like the way recon works now, i feel like i have a bit of control back now as a heavy.
i still would like to see the nukes coming back in a nerfed fashion.
also would like to see a longer cooldown on defib so MMM battles doesn't feel like you're fighting 6 people, but that might be a skill issue
I agree with everything except the heal beam changes. For people who don't have good aim it's nice to be able to heal and support your teammates when they are stealing or fighting.
I'll let you explain how the other stuff I've mentioned doesn't work. 😂
Literal skill issue, sorry bro
my thoughts on patch:
recon is dead af. the most valuable thing of recon was that u can give info about what happens on map,which cash to contest,which not,which team is pushing you and how u can counter it. Atleast make it into some kind of big sonar grenade so u can gather info and give it to your team. but instead u just made it useless.
for nukes: they're still ingame,as ppl said here if y wanna keep it,than make it explode on 1-2 hits if someone shoots the barrel. aps are not working(staying in middle of aps if the guy with nuke clicks c4 b4 it reaches aps range it will still 1shot you) overall unfair mechain in game with ttk 2secs to have team 1shot mechanic.
terrible matchmaking is still here,u'r playing high ranks and constantly getting bronzes into your team,same goes for new player. you just started playing ranked and got into plat/diamond team where everyone would mald at your for simply not understanding how the game works and u also have to compete against other p/d players. bad matchmaking for both new and older players. Also when i play 5-10 rankeds per/day i usually see same nicknames. like every 1-2 game same ppl. feels like only 32 dudes playing this game.
less matches to get to ranked? nice,now accounts will be cheaper to buy and it will take cheaters less time to get to ranked,as well as more new player with 0 understanding of game will pop into your team.
no ingame/team chat,as i said i solo q'd recently and found a good teammate. he added me after the game but i started new one and was unable to tell him to wait a bit and also i can't even see his steam name to message him...
new game mode is terrible. same solo bank it but on las vegas map where u can only play heavy.
shield QoL changes are good but that's all.
also my thoughs abt lights i think devs should give all map movement gadgets to lighs so they will be more usefull to get to cashouts faster. i think defib should also go to light class. so u can build youself as little fast support unit or simple killing unit.
Hacking specialization for medium or light that ISNT about using glitches to disable but instead taking control from other gadgets. For example it could turn hostile guardian and APS turrets friendly, give YOU control over enemy C4, breach charges, and mines letting you detonate them on your end. Also controlling stuff like the Vegas turrets, cranes in seoul, lifts, elevators, jump pads, and whatever new things get added to the environment later down the line
@chrome tartan here's proof that APS doesn't always counter nukes
Feedback i want to give is turrets on freemont street in vegas is accurate considering i live in vegas and have to sneak around the turrets to get into the casinos
seriously just make it so you can't shoot your gun while recon is active and it will be balanced. revert distance nerf
Dont nerf anything but buff everything instead so every class actually fun to play.
If you continue listen to all this players game become an average fps.
Make every class OP af.
WHY is the garbage LTM the default choice when you choose a game to play
Thats the worst possible advice since it leads to powercreep
Go Play Overwatch
anyone else getting worse performance, lagging and crashes today? I have been.
Hey guys my Game keeps crashing since todays update. Does anybody know any solutions?
The "improved movement" since this patch makes it impossible to climb from most windows to the roof of buildings anymore, as well as some slide-jumps between certain roofs is impossible anymore. Was this intended????
Would love to have a detailed stats screen in the game. How many times I played X class, what are my favorite weapons or most deadly, gadgets, etc.
Add more displacement skills so everyone has the ability to dodge nukes instead of removing nukes nerfing all sorts of things to make the game uninteresting, add things like double jumps and speedrunning
(Glad we can all shut up about Recon and talk about something else)
Power creep gets a bad rap. Nerfing everything is just as bad since it eventually leads to everything feeling weak and tanks taking over the game.
Aesthetic feedback
Stacking body paint or separating makeup/body paint
Recolour or a colour wheel for items (would be lovely to have a real monochrome outfit with no out of place colour)
Having the option to save outfit/emotes and then apply them
More skirts
And if the ||goth boots|| don't come back, perhaps some heels or platforms? 🖤
Hi I am unable to play the game, it keeps on crashing. Where can I post this and get some help from the developer?
FPS is worse for sure
@chrome tartan right here kid.
i can see you barely touch this game lol
Tell me you're a casual player without telling me you're a casual player
Recon Feedback
Dear devs, this recon change ain't it. My suggestion is to make recon a wrist gadget or something with an animation that makes you put your gun away, then keep it otherwise as it was. With that type of change there's risk reward, and it becomes more about information and less about wallhacks and preaiming and gives people a chance to disengage. It makes it good for team play and rewards communication and stops the recon user from being a one man wallhacking murder machine.
I know that's more work, but the current fix feels bad to use AND to die to at the same time.
pLEasE nERf gAmE TiTlE..... "THE FINAL" ShOuLd Be EnOuGh
You're making an idiot out of yourself bro
How can you be so wrong and so confident at the same time 😂
Record a clip of you throwing a nuke at a dome/mesh shield and come back, i'm not even gonna bother replying to you anymore since you're either bronze or just new to the game which is fine
APS does counter the nuke if the c4 actually is in range of the APS.
If the APS was on the floor and they we're standing BEHIND the APS, it would've disrupted it
Embark, what did you guys do to the performance?...
i get 30 less fps now on average
Excited to see if these nerfs are effective. The game do be getting better. Still think the lh1 needs a damage buff
So uhh... Did I just waste 300 Multibucks for a glove that ended up getting added for free with the thumb recolored...? Real.
We should demand a refund for Multibucks, gonna spend it for another skin instead lmao. Please EMBARK your the GOAT, I just want the Baseball bat instead.
Thing is when you're placing the aps reacting to a nuke being thrown to your face like in the scenario yk was making you don't have the chance of standing behind the aps, you end up like in the second clip where's there a chance you still get OS, and even if you're in a scenario where you have pre-placed your aps you don't always control where the nuke is coming from
Loving the new dedicated "Career" tab with the progression track, thanks for implementing this! ❤️
💡 Suggestion/request: could it be possible to remove the bottom row with the preview of items when you double click an item? It's hard to appreciate how pants look because of that, but even in general when you preview an item it looks like visual clutter.
I think we all agree that this new LTM shows how unbalanced and unfun the double c4 nuke meta is, just reduce c4 to one instead of 2
This isn't meant as a criticism but reading your list I'm wondering if you've considered if this is the game for you? Not being negative just seems you have a variety of issues with things that could be perceived as core mechanics. Anyway, love and peace bro
Aim bot and no recoil still a massive problem. Every round in steal spotlight
After this patch my FPS are generally 30fps lower over the board, thats sad
Hey quick little suggestion if I may. I love the player cosmetics and have a bunch of cool outfits in mind but I can only use 6 at a time. What if we had outfit loadouts? Could be a couple per character, and you could change them in the pre match countdown. That way we don’t need to spend 5 minutes making our outfits before game.
The only change C4 needs is not allowing them to be attached to explosive canisters. Simple as
Game is lagger than usual, guess they've decided to throw optimization out the window
they just need to make it like breach charges, still can have 2, but there's a cooldown after the first one. It baffles me that breach charges is the only utility in the game with a cool down like this, but C4 isn't. they nerfed C4 so much breach charges do more damage than it now and its like 1/3 the size of C4 and you don't see anyone complaining about light nukes (because lights don't use them and I think the delay to detonate may be different, cuz I can never set them off in time when I have tried). Nukes could have been nerfed way differently without completely neutering C4. Nukes for the most part are more balanced now, but I still see heavies getting way too many free kills with them because of the red torpedo tank.
If you think it's a bug you can go to #1201841543926005810 or perhaps #bug-discussion
very helpful comment my man anyways get fucked
About the new mode:
I love the creativity, the idea of giving away items sets like this. But the gamemode is terrible. A 3v3 only light sword+dash gamemode would be way more fun and better.
Also need a leaderboard for this events and reward the top 1k / 100 / 10 with a tag or something. Then people wouldn't stop playing the mode after 12 matches.
Mnk hasn’t been added to console yet
No solo modes so I uninstalled instead of dragging down random teammates.
At least I only spent about $40 before getting attached to the game.
woud like an option to safe your outfits, so you can just easily switch between them
what the fuck is going on with the servers
Visibility being shit gives a lot of value to detection gadgets, especially thermal. Please fix thermal so that if someone has nothing behind them you can still see them. Also a range extension would be good too
I actually enjoy the new event and theres free rewards making it even better! Its finally making me play heavy more and im quite enjoying it
New mode kinda sucks, too many people at the same points & turns into chaos and the people who win are winning from hiding & going for the most unoccupied deposits
Embark has a serious hardon for Recon and Nukes and I don't get it.
I was trying to teach the game to a friend who loves competitive shooters and our team got put in a lobby with someone spamming C4 barrels. Idk if my friend is going to play much after that. It was a joke to him.
I refuse to use C4 nukes bc if I get a kill that way it feels cheap and stupid. Little skill involved for killing multiple people before they have any time to react. I would only do that if I was shit at a shooter and couldn't aim a gun.
@sharp belfry I'm a stubborn man. I have literally never used a C4 nuke out of principle lol.
Flamethrowers are too good. Went into testing and found that you don't even need to have the hipfire reticle over the target to burn them. The additional burn damage increases its power by 50%. Only viable strat unless the heavy is below 40% health is to simply sprint away and get picked off by their teammates. Way too punishing with the extra burn damage configured the way it is.
instead of having new modes and some fixes every patch please focus on more important things like bugs n crashes 🙏
So you're only seeing it from one side. How would you change the C4 Nuke?
Viable strat for flamethrower is to find one of those smoke canisters on map and blow it up on urself while fighting him, the smoke will get rid of the fire effect so the only damage they can do to u is from the flamethrower itself
I'm in plat and I just waited 5 minutes in solo queue ranked only to get two teammates who didn't even have a rank yet? And playing against at least one D1 3 stack. Please fix ranked matchmaking.
they're not fixing it cause not enough players i guess. shitty ranked matchmaking with bronzes/unraked teammates
You can thank recon senses for the que time. Nobody wants to play the cheese meta.
Wow, another solo gamemode with nothing but people nuking eachother. how fun
but getting OS instantly with little counter play is fun I've been told!
performance on pc seems to have dipped, frame drops and shit
recon still powerful with me XDD
RIP THE FINALS
(I won this game btw)
inb4 lost the round 0 money
Was running great on the steamdeck butter smooth with a few crashes and freezes but with a simple restart helped. But now after the update there is a huge noticeable lag. It runs with no problems but is now like half the fps and noticeable grain to everything. Please fix.
using proton hotfix or expiremental? I haven't tried with the patch but it only worked with proton hotfix for me previously
same
maybe devs wanted to use this game mode to gather info about nukes.
So nuke away! Show the devs it's fucking stupid.
We were promised a rework of recon senses, not a half-assed nerf/value change. The prefire problem still remains with the current system. Recon is fundamentally flawed and no amount of nerfing is going to change that. Up the range to 60-70 meters, make it essentially a one-pulse sonar grenade from your position showing enemies' position for a few seconds, show it for the recon user's teammates, and slap a 30 second cooldown on it. Light is the only class i actually have fun with and as it stands the meta is completely ruining the game for me. Not sure I'll be playing until they fix these issues, if they ever do, or at least until the meta shifts
Found a new bug. When you shoot the V9S the audio goes silent at max fire rate.
at this point no one is going to be satisfied 💀
we have some Vc trollers who doesnt play and just make sounds, gotta do something about it
should not be able to kamikaze nuke people using charge slam
Add an option to buy bundle items without bundles. There are things like the SKILL.E.D which i want but im not interested in the rest of the set
dropped everything to low quality and it seems ok, still dips here and there tho
Tried experimental without the new update and it would just freeze on the main screen when maybe joining a match. And right now I tried the experimental again ran with no problems and maybe seemed a bit more fast at loading times. But I was saddend to see That it was the same. But maybe it was a tad bit faster but Idk.
Just tired hot fix and it's the same thing with big lag spikes. So this one is worse.
Take 1 c4 from heavy away
So... Is crossplay completely broken again? Matching players with globes next to their names on PS5 despite having crossplay off..
Buff lights fr
anyone feel the hitreg kinda delay after the update? its frustating me and the finals cost more performance after the update tho,
rank just MMH MHH MMM MMH where is big patch
Loving the medium tears
People still complaining about nukes is crazy, you can really tell who sits nuts on top of the objective with this kind of complaint.
What a lazy patch
LET US SPEND OUR VRS AFTER ALL WEAPONS UNLOCKED
on what?
What would you think? I was thinking they have this big VR skin that takes 100,000 VRfor a epic skin ? Who knows
20x bundle/cosmetic price, but in VRs
do you guys have problem whit the audio after new update? my sound will spam cut of and go on
some actual good QoL fixes, but the recon nerf was a huge disappointment like I knew it would be. It's basically just as powerful, can still be spammed, but now you have DETECTED on your screen all the time
🙂
That's kind of the point of how to play the game?
This meta won’t change unless they make very drastic changes between classes
remove wallhack from the game. remove nuke. the game is dying, do something that matters pls
SERVERS ARE SHITE
Adding audio to the vanish bomb's cloak feels harsh... Hope it's reconsidered in the future.
How about coming up with an alternative instead of just straight up removing something so we aren't actively making the game less fun?
reduce red barrel flight speed when attached with c4, add opacity sliders for indicators
Wtf has happened to controller, r they buffing aim assist secretly, this shit hella sticky, need to change settings again
Read the patch notes. They fixed a bug where you didn't get AA inside of 20m. You could try AA off or gyro instead
When I detonate any c4 that was attached to a red cannister in the new update; theres a chance the c4 will detonate under me instead of mid flight.
would love to see a 'ready' button so team leader can know if people are ready
just my two cents on recon sense post-patch:
I got 120 hours on this game and been grinding ranked as recon M since week one(gold 1)
more and more M starting to change to healing beam/turret bcs of recon nerf making them running blindly into fights which I really liked rather than them having to scout and ambush enemies after. I believe the 30m limit for recon is quite okay-ish(maybe more tweaks from devs in the future) bcs as a player on the other end getting detected would get ready for the fight sooner instead if it reduced to lower than that. And I do agree the detected warning is quite a clutter on the screen and hopefully devs can reduce it to a smaller font or icon instead. There is quite more to this recon nerf but Im only pointing out the main subject here as per my personal experience.
Thank you for reading and please nerf nukes
Wow you guys really created another solo game mode where the match ends after 3 minutes because one player of a big fight ends uo with enough coons to insta win its ridiculous
Its basically solo bank it with heavy only and at night wow
have the audience chant team names when they get a big play (team wipes, last second steals, etc)
I understand why the recon sense has a range now but I feel like it should be increased a bit. Because now basically any time that I can finally see people with it, I can alsready see them myself before
R E M O V E R E D B A R R E L N U K E F R O M T H E G A M E
Get better and stop complaining 😂
Skills problem 😂
Games gone dogshit. Recon now only lets me know they are wall hacking, doesn't change anything. Enjoy your game fellas, see you back in the next big game
Who was the guy that thought forcing 12 heavies with C4 against eachother was a good idea?
I don’t understand why you only nerfed recon and not also nukes, the nerf to recon is good but nukes are so easy to use and so powerful
@signal root every time you revive you have 1 and 50 secs isn’t that much, c4s aren’t op but nukes are
Nukes require gadgets that have a hefty cooldown
Recon is shit now what do you mean it had 150 meter range or more now 30 metzer thats crazy
thats the thing, c4 (therefore nukes) are made to cause damage, breach charges are made to cause opening and destruction, the first one suit well the light, the second one is more destruction oriented so it suits the heavy. now the problem is that the light class is so bad that i dont see any in game. that change should maie the class more balanced.
fix this
What if they made it so only one C4 can be out at a time? It would prevent nukes from oneshotting most of the time and might make the red barrels spin out idk.
it went from across the map to 100 feet (which is still crazy far). The only thing it fixed was being able to see where teams spawn which wasn't even the biggest issue with it. The nerf literally did nothing. still gonna get cut off when flanking, chased down when trying to heal and pre-fired constantly
Buff lights pls 🥺
How about you present an actual idea for changing the C4 Nuke instead of just suggesting they remove it?
Over 100
Imo this isn't a good rework; that is confusing and just makes more visual clutter without actually providing useful information; which misses the mark in every way.
Release bloodhound had the same problem for Apex Legends, it left still images which which often led to you losing a fight when your ally scanned because it created confusion and left a ton of visual clutter on your screen.
Recon has to go; as a concept, why can't we accept that wallhacks should just be scrapped and find a different idea to replace medium's offensive spec? Wallhacks in FPS games are horrible, just including it as an ability doesn't suddenly change the fact they completely break the fundamentals of FPS completely.
I would rather have thermal vision as a toggle(and have all it's bugs fixed) than any form of wallhack, or a completely new offensively designed spec that has no form of wallhacks.
You just described exactly the reason why C4 and breaching charges should not be switched around between both classes. The only way to take away (or severely cripple) the one shot capabilities of the nuke is to let the heavy have 1 C4 at a time, maybe even with a little shorter resupply time, but long enough for most people not wanting to wait for the second one.
Increased? Most people want the ability gone from the game bruh, even now they are still calling it wallhacks
it really is ALL THE TIME. really bad change imo
Sorry bro, but now its at the same value with turret and heal, if you nerf it more, you will see a Heal Meta and you dont want to see that
AINT NO WAY ALREADY PEOPLE ARE SAYING RECON WAS NERFED TOO HARD 😭😭😭
Cross-input is what needs to disable-able not cross-play. We dont like AA nothing against PS4 & XboX
Keep getting system violations for no reeason
make the game easier
My guy publicly admitted that he needs wall hacks to do anything in the game
I knew they the "rework" is going to expose all the garbage players but damn, I didn't think they would publicly call the@selves out like that
just give it two charges and make it a sonar ability… and if that starts a heal meta then rework that too.
people have suggested so many times in this channel that heal beams shouldn’t stack when running multiple on a single team.
good update but now u get dc in loading screen between ranked matchs wow
BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
- While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
- Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
- Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
- Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)
IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:
- Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger
FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:
- Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
- Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
- Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta
NERF THE DEAD GO BOOM:
- This event is extremly unfair for melee users, you cannot avoid it if you get a kill
- Either increase the time before the explosion to at least 3 seconds OR make it so the explosions don't damage players but only the enviroment
Is there nobody else affected by the removal of slide cancelling? The movement just got gutted and nobody else seems to have noticed. Sliding has 0 control now.
💡 Positive team experience improvement suggestions:
- Make the "thanks" emote automatically trigger for a player who has been revived and/or who has received a health boost from the healing beam so their teammate feels appreciated. In the dozens of hours I played the game, I only had 1 other teammate use it on me when I use it systematically. I suspect many players don't know where to find this emote or how to fire it, or don't want to use it at the risk of getting killed when they try to use it. Automating "thanks" seems like a step towards a more wholesome and rewarding team mate gameplay.
- Add an "MVP" system at the end of each match, where we can give some recognition to players who had an outstanding performance, whether in our team or in other teams. Some players carry games or play in ways you learn something from them (positioning, using specific loadout, etc.) It's more for personal recognition so it's not abused to farm XP or rewards. But yeah that'd be nice I think, and an extra way to show appreciation for other players (or receive it).
2 people on healing beams should stack to like 1.5x effectiveness instead of 2x
Recon sense should be a single use ping or very short time to use, like 3-4s with a cooldown
also rather than having the words "detected" cover your screen maybe getting pinged by recon sense could just be a unique sound cue instead
Biggest feedback: Spawns suck. We are dead, theres 60 seconds left, we can run to vault 5 and get to the cashout and trigger overtime. Nope, game spawns us 200+ meters away from the vault. Just really lame
new map not redone modes pls
CROSSPLAY still cannot be disabled on console!!!! 🤬🤯😵☠️
Tbh while this would work for teams which only have a single heavy or light, it would still lead to cases where you can nuke. Any combo of HH or LL or HL could just stack both their c4/bc onto a single canister and nuking would still exist exactly as it is now.
The better solution is to make it so only a single gadget of any type can go onto canisters, with a few additional changes such as here #👂┇game-feedback message
which would solve ALL the potential ways to abuse other work arounds, while also reducing the amount of 1 shots that occur due to stacking explosives in general, while keeping explosives powerful and impactful.
Pls add mnk next update
recon is much less broken now, however I'd recommend adding a cooldown between activation and deactivation and vice versa and remove the 2.5s required
huh? How's it still overpowered? The only time recon sense can sense someone is when they're close enough where you can hear their steps/gunshots or see them. There is literally no advantage in using it now.
Recon was only op because u could see people across the map and flank them without THEM knowing. Now its shit honestly gonna stick with heal now
How tf is recon broken, it removes the ability to put a turret or healing gun which is much more useful for the team
bruh that's not what I'm saying at all. It's completely useless now. So basically all mediums run turret/heal again now. No one is using it anymore. That's now how nerfs should work. They should find a balance for it to be viable but not overpowered
People pretend like this is the heavy nuke or something that ruins the game for everyone when it's simply not. I have no problem playing against people running recon.
LET ME THİNK, MAKE THE RED BARREL SAME WİTH OTHER BARRELS BUM PROBLEM SOLVED.
can we either nerf or remove dead goes boom now because you literally cannot do anything if you are using a melee weapon
If thats how you used recon than your prob gold
to me there were 2 good parts to recon, one was the micro play aspects of pre-firing opponents, gaining a massive advantage in gun fights, the second part is the macro play aspect of pushing undefended cash outs, and enabling to 3rd party even more better, etc. This new nerf only adressed the macro aspect
Cross-input is what needs to disable-able not cross-play. We dont like AA nothing against PS4 & XboX
My buddies are complaining about slide cancelling, what happened?
I mean if you're gold you can still fight top 500 @dreamy latch m60
Fix CROSSPLAY settings option on ps5. It’s broken again. no matter what you choose in the settings, it’s always active. That’s frustrating.
Sure, my idea for a change to the C4 Nuke is to remove it.
The fact that this game even has a channel in their server for feedback is so good. GREAT UPDATE KEEP IT UP WE LOVE YOU EMBARK. 
yall promised an overhaul, and gave us absolute bullshit, recon senses is still incredibly overpowered, and this makes almost no change,
make the M60 usable 🙏
the recoil is really unbearable, but if you just lowered the recoil then the M60 would surpass the lewis gun easily.
I feel like the M60 is lacking its own identity and place in the meta
can we fix the thing when you disconnect and you reconnect that you cant play the next game in tournament, the penalty is weird because you come back in game and cant play the next round make something with a timer if they dont come back in time give them a penalty. or something but dont give a penalty when you reconnect doesnt make any sense
why is everyone getting black screens suddenly?
Currently there's a weird audio bug with the LH1 where there's no audio feedback with half of the rounds when you spam the trigger.
could you make it so you can automatically break through glass whenever you use a jump pad/evasive dash?
add a update in which u can see the progress of mission in game
🔥 Got to admit, the new tournament presentation design slaps. Really well done.
Oh, I kinda don’t like it 😂
Well another potential game that died. Sad
It looks like a PowerPoint template animation 🥴
Did the jump height get reduced?can’t climb up buildings anymore
Not sure, let me unlock level based skins faster. Let me turn 3k VRs into partial currency or something. It's just annoying to be capped out on something that is rewarded based upon how much time you put into it
I don't expect many people to scavenge their entire team's charges to put on a single carriable, if they do that takes about as long to organize as it does to wait for the next c4. I'm not too worried that'll be a thing
Of course not a priority but that would be amazing to have custom games with custom rules, events, fixed loadouts, etc. with a custom games browser also
Ability to turn off cross play broken again after update. I have it turned off but my lobbies are full of PC sweats. Please fix this
What’s going on with the map rotation? I’ve had vegas 6 times in a row.
Its going to take time bro. We will get this, but maybe next season or in the third season
There ya go, nice work using your brain there champ 👏
where do i report bugs?
blud played 120 hours in a month and is calls it dead, lmao
even posted a pic of his uninstall like anyone cares 💀
what gaming chair do they use?
matchmaking still so broken...
30m togglable wall hacks is not useful? How bad are you?
What? No it doesn't? Any old team in discord or voice could do that in literally 3 seconds, It takes no effort or time at all?
What the fuck are you smoking
I've been having a lot of trouble with lag since the last update and daily/weekly quests not tracking properly. Anyone else?
thrilled to see the devs patching weekly & adjusting the game around their vision with player feedback. haven’t gotten to play today, so i can’t speak for the “rework”- but people should be grateful to a dev team that definitely cares about their service & product. the type of care we have gotten so far has been at large lost in this industry & idt many of the naysayers know that too well
I just got out of a round, the final round was bugged (we had 2min black screen) but as a reward I got 450.000 xp --> battelpass just done and account lvl 49 lol does anyone else have that?
HI, from last update AIDA64 is getting a message on start "you have a debugging tool", impossible to lauch the game with it
first game after a couple of patches, they sure fixed matchmaking!!
https://ibb.co/Ry8qSG9
can we get LMH role queue in ranked please? that would help so much with ranked balance
Oh yeah that's a pretty big feature but that would be amazing for the game.
Speaking of, that would be cool to have some sort of development roadmap
@fierce elk You can report bugs in #1201841543926005810, also there is #bug-discussion
Actual leaderboard exploit rn??
Idk about you but I have no problem playing against people with recon sense. So this must be a skill issue on your side
Just a little feedback about the new modes. If I wanted to play deathmatch, I'd play other games. What makes the Finals great is the team-based modes. So, the new mode? Useless to me.
Hoping for a quick hotfix too! It’s frustrating
I got kicked for dragklicking on my mouse. This is a habit.
doesn't matter, Embark won't listen to it anyways.
My suggestion to fix was to revert C4 damage nerfs (currently does less damage than breach charges which makes no sense), keep the weight (but adjust it on red barrels because it did nothing to those), make C4 like breach charges where you can place 2 but have to wait for the cool down for the second (which would single-handedly stop double-c4 nukes 95% of the time) and then decrease the AOE player damage of C4 when attached to objects (or in general) so you have to be within a foot or 2 instead of 10.
@solemn widget 30 meters is 98.4 feet
Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!
Simply put the game is in a good state now with all the tunes and patches. They need MORE guns and maybe another map for the game to stay alive because its player count is dropping. Enough fine tunes we need more content.
Kiss your lobbies goodbye then and get ready to wait even longer. People don't think things through
Yeah people who shit talk low ranked people in this game don't understand how rank works in other titles. Being high rank here means nothing compered to other real MMR/SR systems.
__Also separate PC queues by input type. __
I think that's a great idea. Personally not against nerfing nukes but put C4 on things and yeeting them at people is objectively fun.
lol I think I like seeing my toon in there at least when you qualify after first round
Completely agree, with the explosion radius breach charges have, i d rather have 2 of them and only 1 c4 or as you said put a cooldown between both c4
It's nice that you guys Reduced the Range to 30m on Recon but maybe you should either just rework the skill as a whole or reduce the time the skill can be active and increase it's cool down also if you decide to rework the skill try making it so that you can only see recent player foot prints
#1201841543926005810 on PS5, after the 1.6 update with Crossplay OFF we again get sometimes matched against other platform players (globe icon). It seems this bug made it back
Please fix CROSSPLAY it can’t be turned off. Playing at 60fps with controller is not enjoyable against sweaty PC players running a million fps using m&k.
- I’ve never played a good FFA gamemode in my life
- Especially not in a team-based game
- Not changing the obscenely slow health regen rate in a FFA mode is awful
Sigh. The recon "nerf" seems to just confirm that the developers do not seem to be actually playing their own game. Facing a recon team - moreso a double recon team - in the tournament finals is still an utterly miserable experience because you have absolutely no way to surprise them, they'll prefire the shit out of you, and even if you do end up with the cashout station, 30m is still more than enough to get all the info they need to know exactly where you are and how to attack the spot before you have an opportunity to ambush them or prevent them from entering the fight.
It boggles my fucking mind how they saw their "global spammable wallhack" ability wasn't working out so well and thought to themselves "well, clearly, global is the problem!". But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, seeing as they thought "global spammable wallhack" is a good idea for an ability in the first place.
There are far too many other good games out there right now for me to spend my time getting frustrated at the sorry state of the meta in this game, so after playing from CB1 day 1, I think this is actually the end of the line for me. The devs' vision for this game just doesn't seem to align with what I personally enjoyed about it, but that's okay.
do somethign for real about the cheating. every single game the last 3 days is horrible and not fun.
😩 I have been playing for 2 hours without an issue, I simply put Quick Access Popup which is a basic Windows 10 launcher and folder switcher on "disabled" because the game kept recognizing it as a cheat software after installing today's update (seriously??) and now I keep getting kicked from arenas because of "integrity violation". I literally haven't changed anything on my PC since I started playing 2 hours ago.
I love the game but this is the kind of B.S. anti-cheat process that's going to make me uninstall the game if it keeps happening. I have no clue what's going on here. Will try to reach support and hope it's resolved soon, this is ridiculous.
am i the only one with lower fps after the patch?
Use the recon yourself or abuse glitch trap/nades 🤷♂️
And git gud
new set looks trash on the heavy
Nerf nukes!
Remove the new gamemode from first spot so i dont queue it by accident
Cuz its bad
Really bad
nerf nukes !
We doing a nerf nukes train? Down. NERF NUKES
why can’t i install the update on ps5
nerf nukes
That's just the way it is with this game. A lot of cosmetics look horrible on heavy specially if it's male heavy. And it's not new (straight from the beta)
its incredibly refreshing to see someone attribute the fault to themselves for once. ive been saying forever that not every game is made for /everyone/. if you dont agree with the design philosophy then dont play! kudos
Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox
Recon Senses:
-Non-togglable
-30/45 second cool down
-Louder audio cue. (constant like invisibility)
This will stop the meta of spam scanning, camping, and hunting without removing or over-altering the ability.
Double/tripple defib still, since beta, feels like shit to play againts
See ya 👋. Also just for the sake of replying since I have nothing else better to do atm, the dev's are putting out patches every week. They are doing their best to monitor their game and its also incredibly hard for them to play the game to the extend that we do while also working on it plus they are a smaller team than your beloved yet AAA companies. Besides that, the recon nerf is HUGE. Teams were able to determine fights from spawn and where to go next. Now is the 30m wallhack still good? Maybe in far more less scenarios now with the 30m cap. From what you wrote, sounds more like a skill issue to me. They didn't say "global is the problem", they nerfed it so it makes you think twice to actually pick it because its only useful to a far more closer range now.
I like your suggestions, i feel like there is a lot of potential to make it seem like players are in a real tournament, for example it would be nice to be able to spectate the final round if you made it to the semis or smthing like that
Recon did not get an overhaul as we were told it would, putting a 30m range limit and saying detected is not an overhaul.
This will not change much… I’m thoroughly disappointed… guess we gotta continue to watch the game die
as per the request of @quick coyote
Yeah, I don't know if the recon nerf is sufficient, but they're doing patches so frequently that I'm sure it will get adjusted further if needed. They've been doing frequent, small changes which I kinda like more than big changes that happen once a month or less.
Slam fire on the revolver would go crazy, a lot of things could be tweaked to make it not op too lol
I was just killed by a light with a sword in the new game mode, how can I pick to be a light also ?
This.
Maybe recon senses could be reduced to same range of the turret or something
The dev's really need to add a brightness setting playing on any night map is just terrible
Devs please, if you are putting us on PC lobbies at least allow us to use mouse and keyboard... 🤦🏻♂️
i wish there was a way to easily track hot shot skills as i dont know what counts as a hot shot kill other then lighting my self on fire but sometimes it gets the kill as the fire goes so im not sure about it
well if devs can fix green and orange barrel but leave the red one same, the devs should use their brain not me
same here, las vegas is even worse than before. same complaints in steam as well
Why does my game no longer have sound? The only thing I hear is a quick neon effect at the very launch of the game and then nothing, no music, no sound effetcs ? I haven't muted the game in my windows sound manager nor my game... Why are there surprises like this with every update?
guys please stop crying about nukes and recon we get it damn
Since this update my random teammates are of the lowest rank possible. It’s almost impossible to have good ranked games now
one of the new menu songs sounds like cbat lmfao
Anyone been able to get into a match of the new gamemode?
Hello everyone does anyone have a problem, unable to login due to service failure
lmfao
Pls add mnk to console in the next update
Anyone else had issues with the update? It states it's corrupted on steam for me
yo wtf keep bank it. it is the best
So i have an idea. Why does everyone love/hate recon senses? Love, because of the ability to plan your game and me more strategic. Why hate? Because of how consistent it is. Always traking opponents position is just not so cool.So i came up with mb a rework. What if we just make it much less consistent. Senses work like sonar nade. Thats why its good. Make it one time use ability. Ex: Valorat cypher. When you shoot a dart from his cam it tracks, but wia image of the location. So my idea is, you press the button. It shows location with the position they were at the time of the scan. Once per use. Cooldown 25-45 sec. My bad, im so tired. I woke up in the night (3 am) with this idea. This is how without reducing range you can nerf it. (Didn't play the new update yet) ok now sleep
m getting some sort of issue while launching the game
how can i fix this
whats everyone thinking on the new game mode and why do you predictably hate it? im quite enjoying it
The weekly/biweekly patches are actually turning into more of a problem than a good thing as this point since every patch seems to come with more bugs that usually negatively impact console players specifically. I’m talking about the AA bug that was just fixed as well the ability to turn off crossplay now being broken for the second time. There was also the blume that affected every weapon outside of the FCAR. Also, why has every match I’ve played today been in Vegas? Take your time with the patches please
performance took a hit with this update. Please don't overlook optimization
Whoever was in charge of the gyro implementation did a great job, but it'd be very helpful if they added a gyro ratcheting option (a button to enable/disable the gyro so the player can reposition their controller)
I think its funny im fighting the number 1 ranked player and it gives me two breonze teamates
Is it just me or when you start playing it feels like everyone is after me
Auto-Sprint
Fix servers
lmao. btw did you win? XD
has anyone else had problems with performance after this update? big stutters and fps is now lower by 30-40 in some areas and in firefights
9700K, 2080ti, 16gb ram, win11, playing at 1440p
@quick coyote pls acknowledge
I feel your pain. I've played against wooz (Top 1 EU) like 20 times already and i've just hit diamon. Pls check SBMM. I don't mind playing against wooz as i can hol dmy ground but please give me teammates with similar skill. Without premates its impossible in ranked to win the finale
Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.
In practice area Recon Senses are non toggable…why not in real games? @quick coyote or was this a test to balance it?
@quick coyote are you able to test this? 
nah but i solo wiped his squad and hit a clip he little has two healers sucking him off 24 7
youre probably low rank and dont know that you dont even need recon to know where the teams will spawn
New mode is boring will never play it again but why can’t we have a mode where there is no weapon class restriction im guessing y’all are saving that for April fools or something
Can we get the ability to mix-and-match the 1887's legendary animations? I like the reload but I don't like the one handed hold.
Hud and Ping opacity
Heavy has a bug where when you place dome it just dissapearsd (hadthis twice in the spotlight gamemode)
I am genuinely concerned about things that are fixed in patch notes that are not actually fixed.
Off the top of my head - knees still bend backwards, but was supposed to be fixed. Another thing is match making, still getting hugely different ranks in lobbies.
Both of these things made it to release, why? How did that happen? Are things not being tested?
Yall can play the game? Doesn't start for me
I haven’t been able to load into a single match
Where you spawn =/= how you approach the spot (unless you just braindead Shift+W in a straight line towards the spot from your spawn, which would be the actual indicator of low rank gameplay, so you're telling on yourself here). And I'm not sure if you realize you're making my argument for me, lol. Yes, you don't need recon to know where the team spawns, which is why the nerf doesn't make a lick of difference in tournament finals.
Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.
tysm for fixing voice chat on xbox -- Godsend!!!
Not sure if anyone else hasn’t “received” the update but I’m still in 1.5.5 and have Solo Bank it? I wanted to play the new mode but my game refuses to update 💀👽
True! It'd be even better than a kill cam because then you get to see how other players position themselves, etc.
Great event guys, but please let us wear the new duffle bag with the yellow "flak vest" upper body!
I can also say yea. In range. I said before a few days ago that recon sense can’t be be toggle-able in range
i want customizable iron sights
someone just got banned and made a new profile to make this pic :p
We new need maps 🎶 Mumbai, Tokyo, the temple in the Amazon🎶
@pearl kiln I have seen you just posted something (news) into the Game Announcement channel. Please the team should address players who are concerned with Keyboard and Mouse support on consoles. The team should tell us if they are working on it and will implement it in future updates or we will never get it on consoles. I think this is not difficult to the team.
GET RID OF NUKES
lose no points if your while team leaves
I answered on this earlier today, right now we do not have any news to share on that topic.
New LTM
Sword Only with Dash
yknow for a game that cheaped out on voice actors you'd think they would use that money on server optimizations
@pearl kiln we appreciate the feedback
we need some new announcer voice lines embark --- please hear me out.. everyone is tired of hearing the same stuff over and over oh yeah and moon and miami map plz
So I havent played in a while cause I was waiting for balance changes and Recon nerf, and today a played and have something to say:
P.S.(I am a light main)
I played specifically on my main(light) and medium(which I barely play +recon) to see if medium finally is balanced. Spoiler alert- it is not.
The Recon Senses ability is basically the same. 30 meters is more than enough for it to be fucked up wallhack that enemies can do nothing about. And I swear like 70% of the time of gun fights, I had “DETECTED” written on my screen.
Medium can basically do every job effectively, and other classes are not rly needed. Like he can defend, deal huge and consistent damage, revive instantly, heal,give vertical and horizontal movement to himself and the team, can scan the teritorry and has a solid amount of HP.
I hope I can attach a screenshot to this from one game on a medium where I was super good and it wasnt even hard (mostly I had like 14-18 kills in quickcash, but this is madness). And that was my second game on him. I felt like I was a terminator.
My solution: Destribute some of the TEAM based utility and some DEFEND based utility to Light and some to Heavy. Like: give defibrillator to light and make the defibrillator only be able to charge up when looking at the statue. Give Gas landmines and jumpad to light so he could help protect, revive and help the team get around. Give heavy the APS turret so the Medium couldn't instantly protect his stuff with it from granades and actually needed a teammate of other clases to help him.
The Recon Senses should be a pulse not a wallhack.
Only when this is done it is possible to CORECTLY adjust Heavy and Light if they are overpowered or to weak after the changes.
@quick coyote
another thing about performance
my friend has a 9600K paired with a 5700XT and he also started stuttering like crazy after this update
both of our CPUs are at 100% during gameplay which has never happened before
Friend here, this basically
Before the patch the framerate was around 60 FPS with the 99th percentile being at 40.
Now it's 40 FPS with... a 99th percentile of 10.
Could you let us use the BP sunglasses with the bandanas? It would look sick and they don't overlap
Cheers!
Have you guys thought about adding a section to the timer on cashout boxes which is the same length as capturing that would keep the box counting down inside the added section of the timer as long as someone was trying to capture it and just cashout if no one was capturing it.
Would be a big quality of life thing, The Finals is one of the only real games I can think of where you stand around at the end because there's literally a zero percent chance of doing anything.
Like my brain already adds this section to the timer when I look at it.
We appreciate the feed back. But if majority of your colleagues (Devs) are monitoring this channel then they should try and get we the concerned players news on this Keyboard and mouse support on console topic. Because we are in a limbo
Egg throwing knife skin 🥺
splat on the enemy
There is also a problem when trying to pick up a turret. Only works when crouched.
make a melee only game mode
Make a melee gamemode
MAKE A MELEE ONLY GAME MODE
make a melee only gamemode
Infected style game mode where a bunch of people have melees and u have to run
loving the twitch drops and free rewards ingame keep it up!
Nerf turrets!!!🗣️🔥
@pearl kiln any plans with vrs that can't be spent after unlocking everything in the game you currently can with them? Like them having any alternative uses?
I wouldn't expect more free skins, they are already giving free skins that actually look good
YES, too many stutters and mini freezes. I just want a stable 60fps for god's sake
Yo, the tutorial video for recon still says enemies are not warned when detected.
Add bots with abilities to the practice range (add a terminal to select/spawn them?)
Please devs for the grace of god do not make a melee only game mode
do not nerf recon than it is already nerfed
please change the medium shotguns reload so you can shot straight after reloading one bullet
please make the sound design better so heavies can't sneak up on you with their assassin shoes
please make it so turrets can be insta killed with a melee like in titanfall 2 risk vs reward style
please also add a brightness slider to this game it's really hard to see things at day time
biggest advice is make the game less corny and more about skill and gun play and aiming
may the best gamer win not the most corny build where you feel your death is undeserved
thank you dev team 🫡
I can't attach screenshots evidently, but as heavy my legs are disjointed from my pants. I look down and see my naked legs and my boots
You can shoot the medium shotgun after reloading one bullet
Nerf recon still, way too op, I'm saying this as a recon main ong
Please return mnk on consoles, just turn aim assist off when mnk detected
But you guys should have. There are a good chunk of players that would like to play with MKB on their consoles, we've been asking for it since the game launched (and we know it works because xbox players had a taste of it, even without customization people were having fun).
I've said it once, i've seen this movie. At least here they give us a big NO haha. :/
the tutorial video for the goo grenade is the same as the goo gun
Not an immediate priority but should be implemented asap is the ranked fame points loss mitigation. For example, when you play ranked and your teammate has disconnected it is not expected for that team to win, therefore the other 2 players should receive like a lesser loss of fame points. I believe there is already a punishable system for leavers so I think it should be fine as it is or at least monitor the situation.
only if the mag is empty I'm talking caught mid mag reload you just stuck
also do not nerf recon it's balanced now with all the corny invis and what not in the game makes mediums actually fun to play I mean no way in hell I'm healing or using a turret @quick coyote
anyone else getting half fps after updatE?
Bro I got a bug where i got stunned and had an rpg out instead of my gun so I couldn’t shoot back. Cost me the match smh
139 explosive mine + 79 explosive mine + 99 C4, please remove nukes
Can we have some global stats like how many players, how many light medium and heavy etc.
Rank check should be 15 mins
there is so much stuttering with the game since the update, its unplayable at this moment for me
99% medium abusing recon 1% heavy 0% light
The gyro feels great in this game, awesome introduction, but I would include a button to toggle it on and off so we can "ratchet" the controller and turn it off to reset real life controller position. Tying it to either Only on Aim down sights kinda solves this, but you lose the ability to gyro aim hipfire. Keeping it always on is doable, but it can be annoying having to use the sticks to reset the camera to a comfortable position. If this gets implemented in the next update, I reccommend adding an option for flickstick as well
can you make it so you can invite friends when in someone elses party
False cheat positive of Easy Anti-Cheat means spending hours on the web trying to find a fix for game errors TFGE0027 and TFAV1012 because Embark's support gave me a generic answer which didn't help at all ("it means something is interfering with the game files").
So far what worked was one of the Steam thread's suggestion of enabling "Core Isolation" feature in Windows 10 settings. Sharing in case it saves someone frustration. The things I do for this game, ahhh. Love it but it can certainly be a pain.
Hey I’ve been trying to play the game but I can’t because players are invisible and I can only see their gun
hahahaha this game is so funny. I got an unranked on my team as a plat 1. this game does not want me to reach diamond
Thanks for the update, you doing awesome job ❤️ Please consider add auto-sprint option in settings and performance mode for console would be great ❤️
So i unlocked all the event cosmetics except 1 in one round.. they should make it like Apex how its a timeline on how much event XP you earn and get cosmetics along the way
CROSSPLAY bug still present on console. There is also a problem when trying to pick up a turret. Only works when crouched.
team mates are 2 full ranks under me in every game, I get more kills but we always lose. kinda boring
Yo did they fix their shitty cpu optimization yet?
You 100% can. Go to the practice range and try. I just did it. Just not ads, shoot to interrupt reload.
Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.
Simply put the game is in a good state now with all the tunes and patches. They need MORE guns and maybe another map for the game to stay alive because its player count is dropping. Enough fine tunes we need more content.
can you make something like an MVP screen after every round? because it should be contestants playing vr game in a tournment so there should be an MVP screen right?
with crowd cheering and maybe some of his highlights during the match or anything like that it would be so cool and make the game look better and also when the highlight moments coming make a sponser logo of the match appear with an animation like the ones in the football matches that would be so cool
Recon nerf is a step in the right direction but it doesn't solve the underlying issue that its straight up easy to use, risk free wallhacks that just gives you a steep combat advantage.
It's just now harder for them to chase you with the limited range and tells you if you're detected. Which you can already assume since you know someones running recon and it makes a really loud noise 
Like I've stated before, there needs to be some sort of trade off for having it activated. Examples include making it a piece of equipment you hold up and a peer through camera disabling your ability to shoot while using it making it an info tool than the straight up upgrade to game sense it already is.
Or make it so that the player needs one hand up since its kind of like a "visor" and disabling their ability to aim down sights, having to rely entirely on hip fire with even more spread since its one handed now while its active
Also I feel like FCARs role as a precision trade off doesnt make since when its a full auto with very little to no recoil, I suggest reworking it maybe into a burst rifle?
yeah it's just the animation for only one bullet is mega long I want to mid reload just cancel and shoot what I have in the mag
I would only agree to a recon nerf if the sound design wasn't so so so lacking to put it lightly
breh u have to swap weapons if u wanna cancel the reload animation and actually shoot when u want rather than having it timegated to a certain window (which when ur tryna click moving targets is complete ass)
Literally every single match I load into is Vegas since the update. The maps already get old since there’s only 4, please stop making me play the worst one every time.
rest in piss recon bozos
Yeah bud nobody cares the game just came out
i mean more maps would be nice
i actually love vegas yall just mad bcs skill isue
can't show how bad your taste is and then say we have a skill issue 😭
186+93 C4 damage, please remove nukes
remove recon detected on our screen please
Please can we get some form of accuracy and headshot hit percentage on the scoreboard especially in ranked tournament games. Make it toggleable if needed. I really want to see the stats for some of these players that have no trouble beaming any weapon into your head. You fought hard against rewasd and sorted the AA issues but things like Aimmy are running rampant. I'd love to see these stats on the score board in the end of round screen.
In the new game mode, the use is even higher 🤣
nukes are still a big issue, and one team should have one defib max
Still no lollipop skin for sledgehammer. 0/10 update. maybe next week.
RESHARING
can you make something like an MVP screen after every round? because it should be contestants playing vr game in a tournment so there should be an MVP screen right?
with crowd cheering and maybe some of his highlights during the match or anything like that and make the game look better and also when the highlight moments coming make a sponsor logo of the match appear with an animation like the ones in the football matches that would be so cool or make another sponsor for the highlights replay that would appear every time in the highlights
So glad I dropped the game lmao
Man I bought the grin gleamer helmet because in the beta the eyes in the helmet could be put on anything was going to use them with the bunny helmet looked dope 👌 oh well I guess
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VSXqkRUh3GPcANBLfX2SzdtHDD-jAihH/view?usp=sharing
this is a very funny visual bug lmfao..... honestly it feels like its gotten worse overall lol - the cpu usage
guys
its not going away... this bug is pernamently there
Ah, I see what you mean now. I misunderstood. Apologies for the unsolicited advice.
no problem man cheers glhf
remove las vegas im sick of leaving matches smh
Revert Recon and just make it non-togglable with a 30/45sec cooldown.
This will fix its meta and let it still be viable.
Recon has been replaced by wallhacks, now even heavies see through walls...
2 crashes today already more than ever before
They should do this to invis
the only way recon can be nerfed is if they fix the sound design so you can actually hear enemies approach
the reason so many people use recon is because it's the counter to invis and the sound design having heavy sneak up on you with their assassin shoes like
also why is it vegas every game please devs I beg
the detection being shown on recon is a huge nerf. just make it louder in game or a constant noise like invis, expand the range a bit after that and maybe it’s good to go?
Now that medium was nerfed heavy is so strong compared to other classes
On launch it was absolutely horrendous I was stuck around 110 fps so I just stopped playing glad to see it’s gotten worse and devs completely ignore the obvious oversight they are completely aware of🤣🤣
Hey has anyone seen theres two combat boots one for paying for a skin and one for the event contracts you know for free?
Nukessss they are annoying
Yea, just a week or two after that bundle launched... sadge
i mean the video... look at the video i sent https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VSXqkRUh3GPcANBLfX2SzdtHDD-jAihH/view?usp=sharing
Black tanktop, its in the shop tattoo picture but not actually an option, please add so we can see tattoos properly 
Visual clarity
Dust, smoke, and debris:
Theres just way too much smoke and dust and shit, it's simply too hard to see anything sometimes. It's really frustrating when you're trying to push a point. I get that it can create some "cool clutch moments" where you might run in and grab the cashout real quick and win the game, but most of the time it makes for a very frustrating, inconsistent experience. Most of the dust comes from breaking enviroment, or despawning debris. Player created obscurity is mostly fine (gas sometimes gets a little too much), but it's really just the dust that's the biggest issue. Please just make it more transparent.
HUD transparency, and especially ping transparency would be a huge addition, as the pings especially are quite large and totally obscure your view. Wishful thinking here, but being able to totally customize your HUD i.e Dirty Bomb, would be very nice. In adition to this, and probably wishful thinking, allowing a crosshair when ADS would be very nice personally, and it'd also make the game more accessible for people with vision problems.
QoL
Please give us an option for "let go to confirm" use for abilities and gadgets. Instead of pressing 3, then left click, then 1, allow us to have the option to use abilities with a single button click, where holding it takes it out, and then letting go uses it, and then it switches back to your main weapon automatically. This is pretty standard for most other FPS games.
Make glitch grenade activate on impact, makes it come into play faster and it'll feel nicer to use.
Adjust dead-go-boom. Melee users get absolutely shafted by it, and you get shafted by it if you mananage to win a fight with the skin of your teeth but die to DGB. If you increase the time before detonation, you'll still have the intended chaos and destruction but without punishing players for getting kills.
Medium currently have the most amount of "must pick" gadgets, and i think they should off-load some of them to other classes to promote diversity. Every medium is running defibs and pads, which really only leaves one slot open for something "fun" if you don't wanna throw. Light and heavy only really have 1 must-pick each (stun-gun and RPG respectively)
Balance changes
Make automated abilities less strong, this mainly just includes mines, i think they should do less damage on trigger, and should detect players hit by it, so it's less immediately punishing to trigger them, but still gives the user an advantage.
Increase health regeneration for all classes. It can be super hard to defend some of the objectives, especially in the quick cash game mode, as you effectively have to win 3-4 team fights in a row to keep the objective. At the very least bump up light regen slightly, to encourage the (apperently) inteded harrassment, run and gun style.
General nerf to "stall gameplay", this includes a nerf to mesh shield and heal. Players should be punished for making mistakes, and the get-out-of-jail-free-card of holding up mesh shield, and especially in combination with heal beam can completely turn a fight even if they made massive mistakes.
Nerf nukes further or remove them completely; still too strong. They're still vital to high level play, as you don't get punished very often for running around with them, and even if they're not successful every time any more, even the chance starting a team fight with at least 1 enemy down is huge. #👂┇game-feedback message
Change recon further; you only fixed half the problem. The untouched problem is that you'll still get perfectly prefired during teamfights defending/pushing points, which still makes it a vital pick. Others have suggested a sort of "ping" that displays locations at the moment of activation, which i think would be a good idea.
remove nuke. remove recon. thanks.
Remove recon
vegas again, time to leave i aint playing this map lmao
it isn't actually that bad in unranked modes
May we please have a skin for sledge that is just a giant trout?
if you want people to play vegas just make it so you can actually go places and there are doors instead of long walls with no enter/exit
also please remove the detected thing with recon it's just annoying as hell
I would gladly accept a recon nerf if the sound design was fixed
also yeah nukes need to go or at the very least be changed
also yeah as @wind frost said make dead go boom have a delay or something when you use a shotgun it's just a bad gameplay loop
I've got some feedback - I'd rather fist myself than play shitty, half-baked LTO gamemodes, that feel like they were thrown together by the intern 15 minutes before the patch went live, for cosmetics.
Based Embark speedrunning end of service
Please…we need Xim detection. It’s so clear..even in their Psn infos are signs you can only write with a PC…and I had 2 of them in my enemy’s team
Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.
Damn you guys are pulling in the numbers with your new game mode! thats what the players wanted! not for recon to be overhauled (like you promised)! Great priorities guys! 📉 📉 📉 📉 📉 📉
Embark more like Embarrassing
@crimson ravine the devs are on a speed run to kill their game
Make recon a 2d spot, have it place dots on the compass and that's all. We don't need ranged ESP in this game, nor do I want to see "Detected" constantly on my screen.
Recon is bad rn xd
recon nerf wasn’t enough
I have to be coping out my mind right now right. There's no way you guys made a limited mode based solely around nuking in the most hated map Vegas unless this is some sort of scheme to gather data right?
i think recon still viable
The new event doesnt count in "play 3 matches of any game mode"
embark plz fix
crazy idea, add footsteps/sound design to the game (never before seen innovation :0 crazy!!!11)
Idk why but there's hella glitches after patch
*Crossplay doesn't work(tried with both ranked and unranked and still fought majority computer)
- My fcar doesnt have recoil(console)
*Turrets can now SHOOT THEOUGH WALLS(for both me and enemies)
Good patch tho, recon is being used hella less
Explosives are the most unsatisfying thing for me to use... why should it do more damage to me than the enemy? what the hell is that, that makes me never want to use the rpg or c4 again, its a weapon, that is significantly more dangerous to me than the person i shoot it at...
hope the developers isn't listining to some bullshit here from people who always have shit to say about the game
looks like yall want to get back when cod and bf was your only options and they were shit af and no one can talk or do anything lmao
remove the players with obviously impossible climb speeds from the leaderboards. they are even on the front page. makes the game look really bad
The recon being on everyones screen is actully insane that they released it like that in that state, oh you want to see anything in this game that is already so blurry becasue sand and dust and debree and what not? well that is too bad we are now going to spam you with detected every 2 seconds enjoy
also if not recon what? have healing meta? ew
turret meta? ew
if you nerf recon more or remove it for something else like stim from titanfall 2 at least add sound design
also add more guns
also also the new game mode is the biggest joke this game has seen put all the worst things in one place yay
lemme just translate this: i wanna be able to blast the floor brainlessly with an rpg/nuke and get rewarded for it 👍 playing like that already holds ur hand why not more eh?
i'm feelling this except this time it's only either cod, battle royales/extraction shooters/permadeath shooters or team objective shooters
devs focus on skins more than the bugs and gameplay x)
my rank restarted why?? i was plat 1 and when i finished my game i am bronze 4
new skin set called arbiter, based off of clint eastwoods western films. weapon skin would be any dmr/sniper rifle or pistol turned into western era
use your ears
please let us buy individual items from bundles, I'm not spending $12 on the dusk dweller set (I dont use any of those guns) just for the moon charm (I already have the earth charm)
bro wtf u talkin bout people blow up c4 in my face and they take no damage when there right next to it
can we implement seeing other contestants ranks in game? by pressing tab
Devs doing a great job. It’s not a big team like EA or EpicGames who can balance things and add new content in one day. Atleast they try to hear what we want. There are some unbalanced things in this game but which game is perfect? There will always be a meta and we will always complain in this Chat even when they fix all the issues we have atm.
i enjoy game :)
Let me give my heavy some massive knockers and a skimpy top. Then I can give him a mans head and call him Jessica
anyone else constantly getting anticheated every single time they try to play?
Rpg "Max damage" is 140 now, i shot a guy at the other end of the room from me and took 144 damage
That is horseshit, why do i take more damage from my own weapon?! more damage than the maximum it can possibly do in any situation to an enemy?!
Hey is there anything I should do when I get disconnected from a game as soon as i search for one, I can’t reconnect to it and when I restart my game I get a suspension from tournaments. It really sucks and I can’t find a solution
ok i'm not playing ranked until this get fixed lol
It's to make Heavies have to actually think to use the RPG and not rely on it as a crutch to get free kills. Apparently the plan still hasn't worked
as far as i'm aware, death stats don't get changed once you're revived. any plans to change this?
#👂┇game-feedback message
You guys were SO CLOSE to doing what we needed
Please make Opposing Healing Beams show as their Team Colors too.
Having ALL Utility always be Colored based on Team Color just gives more information to the player which will add to the competitive nature of the game.
Idk why but there's hella glitches after patch
*Crossplay doesn't work(tried with both ranked and unranked and still fought majority computer)
- My fcar doesnt have recoil(console)
*Turrets can now SHOOT THEOUGH WALLS(for both me and enemies)
Good patch tho, recon is being used hella less
Edit-turns out turret cannot shoot through wall, but it was actually attached to a throwable
same,goddamn it
I heard fcar does 26 damage again rather than 25 and that numerous buffs/nerfs from the last patch reverted back with the update today
need I say more
You just some ass cheeks bruh
I pray that we get mnk on console😞
@tall sparrow get of my dk ab getting a pc bro
is the game saved
Go to pc
Feedback on the new temp mode: It takes the worst part of the game (constant 3rd-partying) and sharpens it to a fine point. The rewards are not worth the infuriating and disappointing gameplay. I won't be participating in any more of these events, personally.
Fix your game. Every time there is a new update, cross play off seems to not work anymore. Bad enough that the new mode is garbage, we ain't trying to play with cheating ass PC players. The bank it mode is garbage period. LOL! Take That mode out. Everyone just wants to camp anyways. Fix your cross play not working right AGAIN!
I don't know what you did but you ruined the Guardian Turret, it's harder to place on walls and it's harder to pick back up
maybe uh, bring back solo bank it
I really don't like the new game mode. I want the rewards but the moment I get them I don't think I'll play it again. The concept seems super fun but it really just seems like the last guy to show up to a fight takes it all, unless you play like a rat and avoid fighting at all costs to mine vaults. I think if it had less people or heal on kill it'd be better
my rank restarted why?? i was plat 1 and when i finished my game i am bronze 4
@true epoch @quick coyote
Please add stim for mediums like in titanfall 2
The mode would have been better if the focus was destruction and MORE RPG.
UNLIMITED RPG AND SLANS ABILITY PLEASE
R E M O V E W A L L H A C K A N D N U K E E N T İ R E L Y
any feedback that starts with fix your game is immediately about to be some dumb shit
Yeah M is sooo bad rn it needs a buff 🤡
Got a white FCAR dude with softlock aimbot medium healer. Guy didn't got banned, wtf its lvl5 weapon already. I thought banwaves are per update
Is anyone having issues to launch the game? I was having the TFLA0002 error, now the game just won't launch, it says "login failed due to an interruption of the service" smh, neither the embark id page works, it says 403 fordbidden, at least for me... 🤷🏻♂️
wtf no add it for light the class that actually needs it
should make it so you can que into training room with a party
Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.
Makes me just want to play TF2 honestly
This, all this!!! If not this, please give an official statement so I can stop hoping for it.
Won't be playing until Recon Sense is actually reworked instead of a bandaid nerf
And give Light more team utility
Are we able to report bugs here?
k I'm kinda giving up for now. be back only when recon as a wallhack and nukes get COMPLETELY removed.
again asking for no penalty when a teammate leaves
Seperate queues by input type 😄
They should reduce the visual recoil of the lh1 and/or bump the damage to 50, but mostly preferably just reduce visual recoil
35k players is crazy
@frank nymph there's only around 35k concurrent players sadly 😥
Nerf nukes. Besides nukes the game is balanced💪
my rank restarted why?? i was plat 1 and when i finished my game i am bronze 4
@true epoch @quick coyote
Recon is still too strong. It should have been reworked imo, because the biggest issue is the close range wall hack. The only thing that changed is that we get “detected” in our screen all the time. I’m talking about ranked btw, there’s the issue mostly
Won't be playing until Recon Sense is actually reworked instead of a bandaid nerf
And give Light more team utility
Who else is with me?
Embark meat riding recon til their game dies is a new level of dedication
Your prob ass on controller if you want mnk support
Everyone still crying about recon?
r u srs lol
i mean it'll be a skill issue if i die a lot on my part. in planetside 2 and the battlefield games that death stat gets removed if a medic revives me
Players number decreasing after launch is normal. Especially when other new games come out that takes the gamers time.
Hey everyone don't mind me. just collecting my daily amount of cry tear coming from nuke and recon haters 🤽♂️
Nerf turrets!!!🗣️🔥
My buddies and I love this game, I hope it grows even more😎
They should introduce proper heists
WOW! all other criticisms aside a piece of falling building debris just unintentionally intercepted an RPG I fired. Amazing physics. Crazy.
Hello, i like a lot the game with my friends, but we are sad because we cant start a queue together in the new game mode. Hope all of you the best.
day 1 asking for a game mode where its all mediums with any gun from all classes with limited abilites
@true epoch per request: Adding crossplay between Playstation and Xbox (better yet, based on controller vs KBM input), the console playerbase would effectively be doubled (more if it’s between controller and kbm). Most people only turn off crossplay so they don’t play against KBM or against aim assist
cod?
^^^
Big Head Mode/Chrome Domes - " Don't let the money go to your head " Contestants inject money into their heads and progressively gets bigger the more they accumulate, to carry them to cashouts while dodging other contestants doming them. <@&1012034066876473384>
Now that recon is nerfed heavy feels so much powerful then the other classes specially light class, mainly cause of the nukes that can wipe complete teams with 2 clicks
When recon wasn’t nerfed atleast both classes where op
@true epoch hello quick couple quality of life suggestions/feedback.
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Lower required amount of payers for ranked games (cant find a ranked game in oce forceed to play on asians servers where i lag) (maybe make ranked like normal tournament)
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Add latency/fps indicator
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Players should be able to view other players profiles and rank (so we can tell if someone is hacking or just genuinley good at the game)
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Add in game text chat so players who arent partied together can communicate to perhaps talk in game chat
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Improve the visuals on gas AND stop it from going through walls/floors (or jus remove it all together lol)
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PROMOTE THE GAME, GET MORE PLAYERS TO PLAY. THE GAME IS SLOWLY DYING. START EVENTS (like clash tournys in League Of Legends) this will give more insentive for competitiveness aswell as improved publicity for the game
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Introduce ticks on cashouts in perhaps 3rds or quarters (this wil help stop 3 teams being on 1 cahsout while 1 other team gets a freee cahout without fighting at all)
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Add overtime stealing for cashouts (rewards players for wiping teams last second and stealing in overtime)
Hope the feedback and suggestions are atleast read and taken into consideration. ❤️
let contestants make a vc
I don't know if the devs will see this or care but please don't ever change the new menu music it bops like hell.
most of my overly critical concerns i posted in here were worked on awesome
please increase the size of the chalk outline spray, I was expecting it to be like the size of a medium or at least a light and its like the size of a small child
Are we fucking gonna just sit here and let the nukes ruin this game? It’s just as bad as it was before the nerf. Guys who have no gunskill or awareness are just running around completely neutralizing teams that are far more skilled. Embark PLEASE for the love of God get nukes out of the game. The competitive integrity of this game is completely non-existent while the nuke mechanic is part of the sandbox, at least in its current state
they aint gon fuck you, why dont you hit diamond then start complaining
vouch, just played a game and our entire team got team wiped by one heavy with a nuke (remove nukes, ruins the playstyle of the game)
people didint like solo bank it at all but at least it was alot more open with no restrictons but now you made the exact same thing but made everyone forced to heavy and use either lewis or shotgun....the least you could have done was either-
Made the contracts an actual challange or
let us have sledges so when we were done and grinding games for the hat we can have fun demolishing buldings
You should be able to aim the cannons on maps that have cannons
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when is the nuke gonna be removed finaly, AND REMOVE AIM ASSIST FROM MEELE ON DAGGER PLEASE
over exaggeration.
Unless you are all huddled together within kissing distance of each other with absolutely no game awareness of the beeping sound approaching, there is no way a nuke can 1 shot an entire team.
buff heavy grenade launcher cause i like it please
Nukes can be done by medium class as well so I don't see any balance issues there. What needs a nerd is the grenade launcher
Holy fucking shit that detected shit off my screen 24/7
well it did, im not here to argue with you. nukes are over powered they should be removed all together if u disagree thats not my problem
WHEN IS 4 PLAYER TEAMS COMING OUT
nice. game crashed. reconnected. finished match. banned for 30 minutes. amazing job.
that's pretty coo lthough
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Yes the game still crashes way too much simply from alt + tab
Ranked needs to be ELO based, I shouldn't play against diamond 1 as a gold 🥱
The game keeps crashing in the middle of matches. I play on Xbox, and it says I lost connection and makes me enter my birthdate again. It could be my router issues, but idk.
Hello, I'm assuming I'm not the first one to complain about this, but blacklisting a certain software - that i am not even allowed to mention - is unfair. it's a legitimate tool that people use without making macros for cheating.__ i use it for work, not ruining other people's fun__ . i know others use it for accessibility or to fix input bugs. please reconsider your invasive checks and accusatory message about being a cheater.
if C++ and python programs arent considered cheat programs, than neither should this programming language
tourney games are taking so long to find a match and load that the music runs out right now
Game keeps crashing while playing the new super fun mode
I play on Xbox and I've never had a crash, ever. Or connection errors.
Please allow friends to queue for Steal the spotlight. I get its unfair but its just a party mode and this is a team game. makes no sense to have it be only solo queue
Agreed.
Sometimes I just wanna kill my friends, be it solo bank it or the spot light event.
Petition for Embark to create a katana skin and a kimono! The store is meh
Can we get the healing bean in team colors as well?
buff recon senses again 💪
I’ve played quite a bit of ranked and here’s what I’ve gotta say,
first off if you get squad wiped while fighting for the vault on the final round 9 times out of 10 it respawns you 260m away then they put it in so they get an extra advantage, make it so it spawns you near whichever cash out they are closest to,
second make it so if your teammate leaves you don’t lose fame if you lose, simple as that.
third make you lose less if you get wiped because if you get vault 1 and 3 then if another team gets vault 5 your basically screwed if you get wiped, changing it so if you only lost a minor amount so it doesn’t screw you over the entire game would be nice
Yep. I'm noticing it as well.
recon rip
check your video settings for some reason mine reset to max
Hey, I have a suggestion for improvement
After 3 games where one of my random team members left the game in ranked matches.... we 2 had no longer a chance to win this game and still lost glory points.
Would it be possible to add a function that the system would detect when something unfair like that happens and you don't lose or win any points in this round?
There wont be. Especially in a game that is for free it would be getting used to prevent losing points. If you are throwing first round -> teammate leaves on purpose and 2 people wont Lose points. Thats why it will never happen
There is something fishy going on with preformance in this most recent update. Why is the game eating 90% of my CPU in the MAIN MENU when I was just playing the game on 80 FPS last night?
It would be fun if there's a light class version of the event mode. Gotta say it's fun but only heavies with one map is kinda repetitive.
Awesome event tho. The free skin looks sick.
Problem with recon is that you can try to balance it all you want but the concept is the thing no one likes. It has little to do with how viable it is and everything to do with having baked in wall hacks.
@nova cradle I have a Masters In Computer Science and organize your checks through ADP I know what a programming language i . If your offended because your using third party softwares that you can close and prevent from running in the background then that’s suspicious. If there’s a software your “job” has that required it to be on 24/7 then you are using a company device or need to designate two devices for your employment. Further more saying a company need to be compatible with all the languages is ridiculous it’s like asking for Android to accept iPhone charger’s. nonetheless you are the definition of “L BOZO”
new tournament load screen is pretty wild
my computer is a normal device. thanks for not knowing what programming langauges are.
my feedback is directed towards the dev team and decisionmakers at Embark. not sure why you care about other people's feedback
I have a suggestion for skins in the item shop: I wish there was an inspect preview on the weapon skin before you buy it so you can see what you get since some skins have special inspect animations
Challenges keep bugging out. I win a game and I don’t complete it.
Embark ily you but nukes are just not a very fun or interesting part of the game.
and if the teammate leaves the game even before the first cash out?
(because that happend at least in 2 of 3 these cases... that one left right at the start and was afk)
and i think its just unfair
i get it that this could be abused.. but in some cases (like in my exambel) its really just not fair.. and you dont have fun playing ranked anymore
for real.. i am so demotivated because of that..
nukes is fun stop trying to nerf everything to cause this game go diying
@fervent escarp you know that these are virtual items and should not be purchased at an appreciation price 👇
The ability to buy specific parts of bundles would be great. You can either buy everything at a discount, or bits and pieces at a slightly higher price individually.
I.E. Say a bundle costs 2000 with four items, so roughly 500 an item in the bundle. You can buy a piece of the bundle individually for 600 instead
@cold pilot I'd rather shell out a slightly higher price for one item out of a bundle of eight, rather than pay 3x for an additional seven items I have zero intention of utilizing. The ability to purchase the stuff individually would be sick, and I believe constructive criticism should have some form of compromise to the original form of the function
I'm glad that the in game voice has been fixed on Xbox
Can we talk about how they said they were going rework Recon Senses in the blog, but they just nerfed it?
Still wont be touching this game until they live up to that promise
The gyro is great but it needs a camera recenter button. Also gyro needs a seperate scoped multiplier from zoomed multiplier. Because currently when you set your zoomed multiplier with gyro you are also changing the scoped. If you set the multiplier to dial in your scope you are going to change the feel of when you are zoomed. This oversight needs to be fixed for gyro users!
This new game mode sucks but I want the cosmetics so I'm playing this stupid mode anyway
A mini game mode that is a obstical course/Race where you are automaticly a light with a 0 cool down on the grapling hook
It would be pretty swag if lights got some sort of buff to increase the longevity of their life due to the fact they die so quickly, and it’d be nice if the lh1 had its visual recoil lessened to it doesn’t hurt my brain and have me unable to see my target after two shots, also move the throwing knife to the secondary gadgets slot and just make it a faster version of the secondary throw on a 10-15 second cooldown, it would get significantly more use especially by melee users and wouldn’t be a straight up throw pick like it is now
just curiouse on why thay dident let us keep the free halloween rewards
The new music is such a bop 🔥
Just played a match with 4 heavies who only got kills with nukes. Lamest shit ever
How fun could nukes possibly if everyone wants to use them?
So, is there a reason why crossplay seemingly gets borked EVERY single update? Once i could believe is just a mistake, but again? I'm starting to think that not allowing people to turn off crossplay is intentional. Especially console players. Come on. This is a bit ridiculous
Playing the heavy kit as designed without cheesy stuff like nukes is way more fun. How is an instant win button good for a game that focuses on team play? Just bring the red barrels in line with the others and we're good.
don't touch recon. just remove recon everytime 'detected'
r u kiding?
@white lily hello? a answer..? or from someone else?
thought i could give some feedback here...
😂
Bad players like you need nuke because you cant compete otherwise. Cant count how many bad heavies i saw who have no gamesense, gun skill anything and just win because of nuke...
So I havent played in a while cause I was waiting for balance changes and Recon nerf, and today a played and have something to say:
P.S.(I am a light main)
I played specifically on my main(light) and medium(which I barely play +recon) to see if medium finally is balanced. Spoiler alert- it is not.
The Recon Senses ability is basically the same. 30 meters is more than enough for it to be fucked up wallhack that enemies can do nothing about. And I swear like 70% of the time of gun fights, I had “DETECTED” written on my screen.
Medium can basically do every job effectively, and other classes are not rly needed. Like he can defend, deal huge and consistent damage, revive instantly, heal,give vertical and horizontal movement to himself and the team, can scan the teritorry and has a solid amount of HP.
My solution: Destribute some of the TEAM based utility and some DEFEND based utility to Light and some to Heavy. Like: give defibrillator to light and make the defibrillator only be able to charge up when looking at the statue. Give Gas landmines and jumpad to light so he could help protect, revive and help the team get around. Give heavy the APS turret so the Medium couldn't instantly protect his stuff with it from granades and actually needed a teammate of other clases to help him.
The Recon Senses should be a pulse not a wallhack.
Only when this is done it is possible to CORECTLY adjust Heavy and Light if they are overpowered or to weak after the changes.
I agree with you man, except just making light invis not being able to be detected by recon senses as easily as it is now.
Like make it blurry or not as visible for invised lights so i dont get beamed in the open
Other than that, these are really good changes
they just doesnt care about this game
We have seen so many useful and even good suggestions in last few weeks.
They even changed the distance of Wallhack's effective distance without changing the way to modify RECON.
They are just doing things according to their wishes, and they have not listened to the players' opinions at all in the possible modification of the function.
Agreed with every point.
Won't be playing until Medium gets balanced so that it isn't the best at every role except for hunkering down.
This game can continue to see its player numbers plummet. Lost another 14k players just in the past 7 days.
This is a great game ruined by horrific balancing decisions. So disappointing.
Riot shield career progression XP takes way too long. I've been maining riot shield way more than other weapons yet other weapons i play occasionally are so much easier to level. I want white riot shield so bad. One possible reason is having to use quick melee often to finish off targets, so I'm basically earning half the XP as other weapons
Consider factoring damage blocked into riot shield XP
Are we going to get an optimization update before season 2??😭
Please raise the mouse look sensitivity to 200% 🥲
You need to change your own DPI for this nothing the devs have to do for that xD
Is this the channel where I can post clips of bugs or glitches?
Devs have made it clear that the heavy kit is designed to use nukes.
I think if they just made recon non-togglable it'd fix a lot of issues with it's constant spamming.
It's simple and doesn't completely rework the classes. Recon shouldn't be a toggle.
HOW DO YOU FIX THE ANTI CHEAT INTEGRITY FAILED?????????????
So when are we getting real balance changes? When are we getting actual usable weapons instead of useless cosmetics? (Game starts to look like a quick cash grab).
When will we get new maps with dynamic changes every time you load it up?
Game is very rapidly becoming boring. First we had these huge amount of hackers wasted to much time. Now to many players left and there is no balance to be recognized in ranked mode. (Ranked mode is for people who want to strife for this that means a bronze can not be queued even with a silver for my opinion fix your stuff please. also give a option to check if you only want team mates with a microphone).
be a game devloper and go work in embark and let us see how fast you going to change the game and get some rEaL BaLaNcE cHaNgEs
It's at 25,600, every other game I'm perfectly fine on sens but this game is so sluggish. Plus those who are using mice that cap out at like 1000dpi are stuck with two arm rotations per 180 😂
wtf are you even talking about.
1000dpi? What are you trying to do? Mimick spinbotting? How do you need 2 arm rotations to make a 180.
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ping/network stats
yea i feel the same
Hi, I have some suggestions for the game.
I know many people who quit the game due to the long respawn times, however I do understand why it needs to be that long. My suggestion is that you add a replay after you die which not only can help us players improve from our mistakes, but it can kill some of the time from the respawn. An option to skip the replay is fine too so you can spectate instantly instead if wanted.
The game crashes alot. Every hour i play either me or my brother crashes. Very annoying
change your graphics settings
cheating is rampant again for 4th night in a row. Every match