#👂┇game-feedback

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nocturne flare
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Give text chat!

solid narwhal
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Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

crisp oxide
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got kicked from a semifinal ranked match reconnect didnt work. and ai lost all fame points and also never got the usual "ban for leaving"

open elk
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can't invite my friend (error), been stuck in queue (solo bank it) for 15 minutes straight (at this point I don't even think it's searching for any lobby)

please another bug fix patch

maiden badger
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so can the voice chat be fixed? push to talk doesnt work half the time (does not work if you are holding shift / running) or doesnt show an icon when you are talking, or keeps the PTT active even when you are not hitting the button

vernal anchor
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Add Gyroscope Aim/Flick Stick for consoles
Flick Stick is an adjustment to gyroscope aim where the right analog stick can be used to flick in a certain direction (so right analog down would be a 180° turn) in addition to the gyroscope being used for finer adjustments
It can already be done using Steam's controller settings, but you need in-game support for consoles
Wikipedia Article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Stick
Gyroscope Aim + Flick Stick Demonstration in Doom (2016) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5L_Px3dFtE
Gyroscope Aim + Flick Stick in Counterstrike: Global Offensive - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzbZq4OjEwE
Gyroscope Aim + Flick Stick in Team Fortress 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJIqEX93vL8
Native Gyroscope Aim + Flick Stick in Fortnite - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiSS5OsNCNU
Native Fortnite implementation article: https://www.fortnite.com/news/gyro-aiming-and-flick-stick-come-to-fortnite-in-v19-30-more-controller-options
Native Gyroscope Aim + Touchpad Flick Stick in Deathloop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-4j7DoIeLo
Native Gyroscope Aim + Flick Stick in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtWyFvAXfEk
Video showing how it can replace aim assist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCD8vbGzbmM
Game developer Julian "Jibb" Smart's Implementation of the Flick Stick for Developers - http://gyrowiki.jibbsmart.com/blog:good-gyro-controls-part-2:the-flick-stick

Why add this feature?
It is a controller scheme that allows precision that is similar, if not better than mouse with no aim assist. It has been implemented natively in Steam and in the most popular 3D shooter games, including Fortnite and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, and has been widely praised for being a possible solution to the aim assist conflict that has plagued cross-input gaming.
Since conventional controller aiming is slower than a mouse, Gyroscope Aim + Flick Stick aims to address the limitations of this older scheme.

modern sparrow
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The med gun needs more feedback when you press the button to pull it out. It doesn't need to be taken out quicker, but it needs to be clearer to the player that you started the animation because there's so many situations I go to heal people after reviving and I start shooting unexpectedly (and worst case scenario I blow myself up with the cl40). Again it doesn't need a buff, just better feedback pls

near prism
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Replace healing beam with stim shot would be great

You can heal your m8s from long distance and require more skill to heal with stim also fighting against one who get heal by healing beam continuously is not fair and disappointing

golden iron
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FACTS

quick coyote
vernal girder
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Three mediums still feels really bad to play against. Is any action going to be taken?

indigo sail
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Allow us to use the healing beams on ourself

sour bane
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The speed in which Embark is addressing issues is a breath of fresh air. Thank you Embark. Anyone agree?

It's extremely hard to balance for both casual and competitive/ranked. Most devs have to make sacrifies. But I think they are doing a good job in trying to find a right balance. Balance is something that takes time. And experimentation.

fathom gale
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Ability to mount turret to Riot Shield

dreamy latch
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all of this exactly

nocturne flare
proven pelican
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i cant remember the last time my turret got 50 shots off

fringe burrow
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Can yall take another look at revolver again? The last balance update did half good with reducing the ads spread (rng with ads is never good I like to hit what I aim at) but the range nerfs are totally silly and put it near shotgun ranges for actual usability. I tried playing last night and had a couple instances where 2 'medium' range headshots to a medium didnt get the kill because I was standing like 2ft too far away, balancing with damage dropoff this aggressive feels bad and isnt good gameplay.

dapper atlas
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I got banned for quite some time after afk-ing in a ranked match with 2 enemies using hack. This is the second time tho. The first one is using hammer and killing people from far. And just now, aimbots L. I feel this is quite unfair for me. I just respawned and quickly die again and again. Cant do anything, so afk-ing is the only thing I can do. And I got banned in ranked match for this? This is.....unfair.

lament talon
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School.

vernal girder
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10+ mediums in every ranked lobby. The class has to have more nerfs, their class as a whole makes the gameplay generic CoD with high TTK

mortal vortex
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well you could shoot the nuke, blow it up, use Mesh shield or use Dome Shield. APS turret also destroys it.

vernal anchor
maiden badger
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Add text chat or more in depth quick communication options like TF2 / CS have.

tough topaz
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bring back mouse and keyboard support on consoles please

half swallow
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So does it mean that they will restore keyboard and mouse support.

@i.momo#0000 I have to tag them because they addressed us on feedback from the recent update and today they launched a hot fix. So we need them to tell us if it will be restored or not.

solar oasis
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Ah. Finally some me time after a nice hard days work. Can't wait to babysit disabled people in solo q for the rest of the night.

placid fractal
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Finish work > get on > every cunt is using stun and dash

ivory shard
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Just won a game and stole a cash out yet none have counted in the contracts, this isn't the first time this has happened.

fading yoke
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Having played in the Open beta i genuinely believe that the outlines around each team needs to be removed at least until you are right in front of some as it reduces any chance of stealth and forces you to be in an all out war and tbh we all stopped playing games like battlefield for a reason so lets not do that here to and let something so simple to ruin a game this good. Some Suggestions: 1. only allow the Recon senses to see team colours thus giving it a buff whilst still keeping that in the game 2. remove the outlines completely 3. reduce the visibility of it( basically make is so you have to be right in front of them at least two meters for it to show up) Conclusion: the ability to see a flashy colour around someone definitely Increases their chance of winning a fight (especially on the darker maps where you'd think stealth is used more). The use of the highlights gives an unfair advantage in a game like this where any strategy can be used as it eliminated any opportunity to utilise stealth as a strategy putting lights at a disadvantage.

ebon elbow
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

ebon peak
vernal girder
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Where can I report a bug? Almost all ranked lobbies I'm in are Mediums only besides myself, trying to figure out what's going on as this certaily can't be intended behavior.

manic aspen
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remove guardian turret
i cant how many times my random teammates have sobataged my game by picking guardian turret in top 1k lobbies

soft gorge
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Most braindead argument ever. Imagine telling every pc player using controller to buy a console 🤡🤡

daring adder
tulip patrol
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There is no reason why this game should use so much memory and keep cpu temp at around 80c-90c, ESPECIALLY WHEN running the lowest graphics

solid narwhal
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Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

wanton owl
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the revolver is even less viable now when compared with other wepeans due to the damage drop off. The high risk of the low mag size should reward you for hitting your shots especially when they require pinpoint accuracy at those ranges. when other weapons have less risk( larger mag) and still do more damage at those ranges then why would anyone pick the revolver. The bloom change is good but bloom shouldn't really exist at all

lament talon
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[Call for Replay System and kill cam Implementation]

Dear The Finals Community,

As passionate members of this community, we've noticed a rise in cheatingstopegg during the past months.
To combat this issue, we strongly advocate for the immediate implementation of a replay system and kill cam feature. HEREWENOOOOOOOOW

These tools are essential for accurate analysis of gameplay, enabling swift identification and removal of cheaters.
Let's join forces to ensure fair play and maintain the integrity of our competitions.

Adding to that custom games can make this game even more fun for casuals and competitive players!

Repost this post and together, we can make a difference!

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dapper atlas
karmic cloud
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Can we fix the fact that thermal vision is inconsistent and doesn’t always highlight people? Like through map fog or smoke or things like that it just doesn’t highlight when you’re using it most of the time. It also doesn’t work on invis when they’re decently far away or through fog or smoke or gas usually, and it’s generally kinda worthless. I think it should highlight mines and grenades and just utility in general since all it really does rn is make it hard to see without even highlighting people (which it’s obviously supposed to do)

sour bane
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Very excited for the Recon Sense rework next week! Ranked is still littered with MMM running 3x Recon.

full rose
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Dear Devs. I have do admit even as closed Beta player you guys start to ruin the Game by yourself. As much as I love or loved TheFinals. You guys start to ruin it completly. You nerf Weapons that dont even need to be nerfed. Or offer weapons that differ so wrong from weapons existing. Like so many Players use the Scar H compared to the Revolver. You guys nerf the revolver into a complete useless state. If I want to go close quarters I use a Shotgun. Why is the Revolver nerfed in range? Now its only way to compete to all the scar and ak players is by using a scar or ak in range. I would love to see better explanations of nerfs in the future. It makes no sense to just change stats without any arguments. In my eyes those nerfs are forced by a tiny group of crying players. Overall the usage of the Revolver was pretty low. Maybe if a weapon like the Scar is actually meta. You should check out if it has a reason to be Meta. Cant be serious to nerf a weapon 10% of M classes use.
EDIT: Please stop to listen to the minority crying around. People that are happy with the Game dont flame here. And more People are happy. Its like a broken car. If you look for a car in the WWW you find a lot of issues. But compared to the Mass production it is still a minority. Issues happen and only People having an issue complain around. Now I complain around because you nerfed a weapon that has more than enough problems against Scar and AK on range. You transformed my Revolver into a goddamn I need to take cover 20 times till Im close enough to actually use a shotgun Weapon.

soft gorge
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

queen cloud
tough kiln
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Why is Dead Go Boom still in the game??? All it does is make me have to swap to a ranged weapon when I want to play a melee. Literally just lost a game because of this stupid mode coming on right when I got a kill and I died so we lost the point.

quick coyote
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once these bugs are ironed out and the community can live with the things in the game, we can focus on new weapons, equipment, and specializations!! that would be an exciting way to combat imbalance (:

tropic swift
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Sound design is definitely broken. A lot of times it doesn't make any footsteps sounds when an entire team was sprinting infront/above me when there are no loud sounds such as explosions that may overlapp the footstep sounds.

plucky torrent
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^^ Trying o decipher between enemy and friendly footsteps is a nightmare.

Smoke needs to be thicker (You can see straight through it right now, or hide the bright highlight on enemies that are in it.)

Light invisibility did not need the penalty for activating it, rather a charge up time or a cooldown after invisibility is broken. This would add risk to using it so that people cant play like actual rats with it;.

Light health regen should either be faster or give light a gadget to make it faster, like a stim shot.

Dagger should have the yellow hitmarker when backstabbing successfully.

Defibrillator should have been a special ability from the start. The instant revive is too much for this game.

Guardian Turret should have to "reload" after shooting 50 or 60 bullets.

Thermal vision makes barrels glow way too bright and makes it much harder to see enemies in many instances.

Dead go boom should have a slightly longer delay before the explosion. It just makes any melee build feel awful to use.

Not having a text chat feels more like an oversight rather than a feature.

grave sierra
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can we get a "sorry!" voiceline for when i accidentally blow up a teammates gadget or catch an enemy gamer reloading at a bad time and they just give up n stand still and i feel bad for fraggin em

manic aspen
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healing beam and recon have single handedly destroyed the game for solo queuers

molten sluice
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A chat system to talk with Teammates and to chat in lobby would be great, Am pretty sure Devs already working on it,
Overall the game feel balanced, idk why people crying over small things just because they die in game.
I would love more interesting Voicelines by the Casters.
U guys doing great job, The game is Amazing 👍🏼

lament talon
past fox
solid narwhal
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Kbm on consolebig daddy thine flinlianls deveeeellooopppoooorrrzss

sour bane
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I cannot wait for the Recon Sense rework next week. MMM is still the meta in ranked, and it's getting very very tiring to play against, when the enemies know your every move. It's like fighting an uphill battle, because not only do they know where you are, your kill against them is instantly undone. It feels really bad to round a corner, and you have an FCAR already pre-firing at you.

In ranked, the meta is just insanely stale. NGL, I don't think the FCAR and Defib nerfs did anything. FCAR still beams, and Defib is still used very aggressively. Medium is way too good at everything. I also hope you never have to face against 6x Gas Mines around the Cash Out too.

humble nest
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Please fix aim assist on targets closer than 20 meters. There's no aim assist at all, like it's a bug, it shouldn't be like this. You can feel something on further distances.
Please acknowledge the issue or at least let us know if it's intentional, everyone on console and PC is suffering from this

vernal girder
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Medium meta is so boring - driving me away from the game. Defibs need longer cooldowns, and maybe the class as a whole needs like a -25 HP hit to health pool to just stop with this crap

storm salmon
timid reef
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Please unnerf the revolver, and give light faster ADS movement speed/more passive movement (wall climbing, double jump, etc)

runic stump
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Wait actually, double jump aint a bad idea....ur onto something. (And they should have a buffed mantle/climb)

plucky torrent
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A decent middle ground defib nerf would be to not allow people to hold it so they dont only need to pop out a corner for 0.1 seconds to revive a teamate. They already nerfed dagger backstab by doing that same thing.

edgy wharf
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Hi oscar

vast quail
ebon elbow
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

quick coyote
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Does anyone at embark actually read this channel?

But seriously medium and light both suffer from an identity crisis.

Medium's role consists of support, assault, defense, and mobility.

Light's role is.... Hit and run?

Rather than the usual nerf this and buff that my suggestion is;

Move zipline, jump pad, and sonar grenades to light so they can lean into their mobility role.

Move breach charges to medium so they can lean into their assault/support role.

Recon senses is bonkers, it just needs to be deleted but my suggestion is to replace it with an ability to creates a temporary and stationary healing zone. Leaning into mediums support role.

I feel this would help create a more distinct role for light players.

Also an idea for a new game mode;

Destruction based. Players earn cash based on killing players and vaults similar to bank it but also earn cash based on amount of environment destruction. First team to 40k wins. For thisode only cllasses need to be locked to one light, one medium, and one heavy

quick coyote
jolly drum
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Honestly a good way to get rid of nukes or at least make them way less prominent is to just make it so when you pick up an item your inventory defaults you back to your primary weapon so you have to scroll to your c4 to detonate. This with the add flipping around nerf would honestly go hand in hand. Leaving my opinion on nukes out of it but I think it could be an option depending on if the devs even want us using them or not

manic aspen
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Love how many soft hackers add twitch in their names to look legit but dont have a twitch channel

vernal girder
wind frost
plucky torrent
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Please. The game crashes all the time when alt tabbing in and out.

storm salmon
# quick coyote damn right—more than half of these complaints are skill issues

i swear people wanna nerf every single shit out of this game til it plays like cod

ofc you can buff other shit to see different stuff then mmm with double defi. What did we have like a week or two ago? Loads of heavy combos, almost never triple medium, cause of how strong nukes were. Almost as if people would also start picking other classes when they are equally strong. But just nerfing everything until everything is weak is not the way to go for this

green root
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I don't want to be a huge complainer or anything, but a personal issue i have (that might just be me) is the invisibility noise. Not when i'm against someone using it, but when one of my teamates is going invis and my stupid self thinks someones flanking me, when it's actually just my teammate. Idk what should be done to combat this but it's just an issue i have

pliant rock
# quick coyote Does anyone at embark actually read this channel? But seriously medium and ligh...

roles arent fixed in the finals, you can always pick any combination of classes at any time, and they can always fulfill very different roles.
generally, medium and heavy dont have the damage and flank capabilities that light has, which makes it stand out. it also has the biggest number of weapons.
As long as there isnt a rule on having 1 light 1 medium 1 heavy per team its good as it is

modern wedge
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TEXT CHAT

red knot
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grenade launcher for medium needs a Nerf that gives 10 or 5 hp more self damage because I kill my enemys in seconds and i don't think that's fair

sharp cipher
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dagger backstep is buggy 40% of the times it does not trigger... and im see the back from the pp !!!! fixe THIS SHIT

normal turret
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Add a feature to remove the ambience in the menu (meaning the people cheering and what not in the background)

quick coyote
daring fossil
weak swift
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THE GAME iS FUN

ocean rivet
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Personally I would like a Buff in quick Melee damage :/

woeful arch
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Another day, another Monaco moving platform fail. Literally had the cashbox but couldn't jump onto them properly. Embarassing AF. And annoying. Literally lost focus on the game from the frustration. Getting tired of this very specific part of the map.

vernal girder
# storm salmon i swear people wanna nerf every single shit out of this game til it plays like c...

LOL - the game PLAYS LIKE COD right now because this scumbag OP medium class is 90% of the players in every ranked lobby. And you, almost certainly a medium FCAR recon/defib locked main, are sitting here pretending the overrepresented class is "fine," and they just need to buff the other two classes they very deliberately nerfed only weeks ago.

They already just nerfed Light and Heavy, they nerfed an ALTERNATIVE weapon to the CODDED out FCAR... they're not going to just be buffing other classes back. The FCAR nerf was nothing more than a meaningless gesture, almost the same amount of bullets to kill heavies and lights both. Neither they nor you are taking the state of the game seriously.

plucky torrent
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I hope the recon sense fix truly helps. Light needs faster health regeneration and then I think it's a lot more balanced.

sour bane
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Ranked needs lots of work

  • Matchmaking. There is no matchmaking. Even after yesterday's improvements, unranked, bronze, silver, golds, plats, are still thrown into the same lobby.

  • The meta. Good luck playing anything other than MMM or MMH. I know this is being addressed, so I am going to try to be patient, but Medium is at least A-tier in every single thing they do -- getting info, defense (mines, turrets, etc), support, damage (FCAR), etc.

  • Light is viable if you're cracked, but there isn't any team utility with this class (Glitch is best used with a coordinated team). If you aren't getting kills, you have zero team utility. But Medium is way better as a slayer class, with just as good mobility, and higher HP, with wall hacks, and has one of the best guns in the game.

  • 90% of the people either aren't in voice chat, or don't talk. Or voice chat just doesn't work, because it's a buggy mess. Also, where is text chat?

  • Solo queue manages to be worse than Siege's. You're also matched against three stack Mediums that run at least one Recon, so they know where you are across the entire map, controlling flow, spawns, etc. Why is unranked solo queue's matched up against three stacks? This is a team game afterall..

  • If queue time is a concern (to make low queue time but accurate mm), then why do four rounds? Just stick with three rounds. I don't see any benefits to having to play all four rounds, when three rounds is just as fine.

Events have no place in ranked mode.

ebon elbow
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

indigo osprey
flat shale
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THANKS FOR EVERYONE WHOS HELPING ME SPREAD THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE DEVS the finals removed keyboard and mouse last update from Xbox so I made this song so the devs might listen https://clipchamp.com/watch/GrKWomuKTRx even tho Im saying the truth the discord mods keep banning me from this discord I got banned for 2 days As a dev you should add features not remove ones Again for the good mods out there I respect yall but for the bad mods IDK but don't banned me hear me out players should have the freedom of choosing there device like a pc

buoyant yarrow
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I would change the Range stat of the revolver. It is labeled as a range weapon but since the nerf, it does tickle dmg now. I understand the nerf but Ive seen people hit me 4 times and not kill me with the revolver

daring fossil
# plucky torrent I hope the recon sense fix truly helps. Light needs faster health regeneration a...

I think lights need better movement, they are marginally faster than a medium, and a medium can clear maps faster with a jump pad. Lights need movement more akin to how it was in alpha, just minus being able to slide from a stand still, because I could 1v3 a whole team just by sliding back and forth while shooting everyone. But I think sliding as a light should have less friction or even increase your speed like alpha, I think they should be able to jump slightly higher so they can make jumps mediums can't and mantle faster. on top of that cut the time in half for health regen to start and lights might actually be useful again.

@buoyant yarrow it did tickle damage prior to the nerf, it's just even more shit at medium range now. I think the description never changed from betas when the revolver could still kill people at range. I don't think it should do the same damage at 100m but it shouldn't be as bad as it is considering the fcar can beam people at that range. but it's a single shot weapon, it shouldn't have spread at all, and 6 headshots on a medium at 50 meters is just insulting.

proven pelican
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buff flamethrower because i use it

manic aspen
gleaming tide
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Egg throwing knife skin. Thanks.

cold acorn
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give lights rpg?

past fox
nocturne flare
brave plover
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there is a big problem with the M11 and XP-54, it feels like some shots are going through ghosts, its still a bug since update 1.5.0, maybe a problem with hit registration or something else, these weapons are still not the same with less damage and so much higher time to kill

indigo osprey
keen steppe
foggy python
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add latency to the scoreboard

lime isle
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Quality of life changes

-Make reserve available on the first round of ranked, Its pointless as you can just creat multiple contestant preset, but really an unessesary hassle.
-Make it possible to have Equipment button not cycle to primary weapon if you tap it twice for instance healing gun.

  • Similar problem with mesh swaping back to primary wep instead of last equipment before using shield.
    -Make heal gun discharge if the heal target is topped, it MIGHT be intended that it doesn't but its unesserary imo.
ebon elbow
shell lotus
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

rancid spear
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

quick coyote
tropic swift
blissful bridge
clever wind
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Im bronze and just played against a top37 in the world, top 1 in my region.. so matchmaking is still broken

quick coyote
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FIX CONSOLE AUTO AIM

daring fossil
harsh axle
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Hey guys !

Don't know where to post this message anywhere else to get some help. I'm on Xbox and got the TFLA0002 error. I did the recommendations :

TFLA0002 error is displayed
Please ensure that you have a stable network connection and try to log into the Embark ID website again. Afterwards, please restart the game.

But always the same. This problem just appeared 5 days ago, everything was ok before -_-

Thanks for ur help !

keen steppe
nocturne flare
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Text chat when?

austere nebula
sour bane
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Uhh, is there a Charge/Hammer exploit? This heavy was able to have long range Hammer hits, doing 400+ damage.

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/1RpnEWCLy9UziO/d1337ZbrvMz3?invite=cr-MSwzejMsNjk4MDAyNDQs

I have his in-game tag too if modds need it..

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buoyant veldt
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Is this the channel to report bugs in?

daring fossil
fiery harness
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When can be buy single skins instead of bundles for weapons

boreal fable
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Increase the health of all sizes by 50. Weapon and items damages would need to be increased a bit but this would shrink the gap between the light and heavy health pools:
Light = 200
Medium = 300
Heavy = 400

rain wharf
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Has anyone experienced a bug where you disconnect every game then get kicked every time you join back ? Are there any fixes ?

ancient abyss
weak depot
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Wtf is happening with the nade launcher ? It's not possible to limit those weapon ? Like 1 by team

sage bison
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please god remove heavy already and give light 50 hp

quick coyote
sharp belfry
fallen mortar
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games getting a bit boring ngl guys

ebon elbow
solar oasis
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Any attempts at all to stop the AI cheaters? Or are you just gonna keep paying EAC a pittance to stop maybe 1% of cheaters overall? This game is fucing toast if you don't fix cheaters and MM and change cashout.

rancid spear
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

solid narwhal
#

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

oak kernel
outer root
#

Actually nerf nukes, the current nerf is not enough

lapis crystal
#

Easy wins with 3 lights on tournaments :).
All players whine about Heavy and Medium being OP 🙂

sick pier
#

Everyone has been complaining about how strong the FCAR is and y’all decrease its damage by.. 1? 🗿

indigo osprey
daring fossil
shell lotus
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

sharp belfry
#

Please make glitch grenade useable and give it to all classes so we can at least kind of counter this triple defib/healing gun bullshit

ebon elbow
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

hardy bridge
#

heavy grenade launcher should explode on direct hits to make it better at direct combat

solemn patrol
#

Hello, just some quick feedback. I believe the option to enable/disable the autolock feature for melee on mnk would be a very helpful QOL change. There have been many instances where I will run the riot shield/medium setup and lose fights due to the heavy autolock correction the riot shield tries to do. Makes me swing way over or past them, unintentionally making me miss, where if I were just aiming myself, the swings would have hit (I think 🤡.) Thank you and please take it into consideration

blissful bridge
quick coyote
#

Next week patch is gonna be awful, cant wait

warm mauve
#

Some feedback on solo bank it. By far the worst game mode I've ever played. 90-100% of the lobbies are full lights, camping deposits, while invisible. Glad it's only a temporary mode.

daring fossil
ebon elbow
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

earnest ermine
faint saddle
#

I love this game but its becoming dry and lacks content

I already pushed 90 hours in 2 weeks which is alot for me but we need more content i am playing less everyday because of content drought

yes the devs are doing a great job on balancing but the games are becoming repetitive and pale yes its funny with friends but they are becoming bored and only very few people use voice chat

we need more content asap becuase this game is awesome and has huge potential but currently we are sitting on the same recon/fcar/defib meta in ranked and shit ton of lights in bank it

sharp belfry
blissful bridge
wanton nimbus
#

day 7 of asking to bring back keyboard and mouse support to xbox

rancid spear
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

nocturne flare
#

Text chat when?

full rose
orchid island
#

I think the ping system needs some work, I find myself trying to ping a vault for me and my friend and I end up pinging the cashout, or vice versa, and can never get it to switch. I am also pretty sure my friend pinged someone that was behind a wall for both of us.

hallow ruin
#

I just realised that Embark is trying their best and we are so toxic :<

daring fossil
sharp belfry
quick coyote
spark sparrow
#

Mnk to console please

desert heath
#

You should add a ft that when the timer is on 2 sec and you grab the vault the game should not end until i cash it or someone kills me

quick coyote
#

What are the odds of getting credits on microsoft rewards

blissful bridge
ebon elbow
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

nocturne flare
#

Gib text chat

gaunt thunder
glacial salmon
#

This game lacks any investment in each match. Currently it doesnt really matter how good you are, its all RNG and nothing garantees your victory. You can grind in ranked just by at leasy hitting second round. I once ratted my way to Final Round knowing we didnt deserve it.

There really should be more objectives that help determine match outcome more than just fighting, blowing things up, and stalling cashouy. That said, matches need to be longer.

feral canopy
#

Just increase the hitbox of light and then make additional balance changes to buff it, would balance out any further buffs done to it, to make it more viable but also allow people who play heavy or medium to hit them

prisma ember
#

I hope someone is reading what I'm writing. First of all, I love this game and enjoy playing it immensely. However, I want to talk about something I've been experiencing in the last 3-4 days. My friend and I play every evening, but it has become impossible for us to win due to the third person who joins our game. No one behaves according to the group dynamic; they just do whatever they want. This makes the game experience unbearable for two-player groups. The only feedback I want to give is this: please introduce a duo mode to the game, similar to the solo mode you brought before. Bring it so that our fate is not in the hands of a third person.

plain wharf
#

I feel like I've lost faith in video games. But I've really had the feeling since the launch that it's too good to be true. There are content updates every week, not to mention frequent hotfixes.
We've got incredible, truly unedited cosmetics and support on Discord. I don't trust the internet any more, it's so much like an NFT project lol, like it happens out of nowhere, and all of a sudden it disappears with the money... Am I the only one with a part of his brain that still can't believe this is legit???? 😭
Otherwise it just smashed every mp games in my library :p
Thanks to the developers, show them what a good game is!

quartz oak
#

please consider changing the shades or hues of the orange, pink, and red team colors. I saw an image of the bug that caused more teams than normal in ranked. The sixth team was a lime green shade. This would be a perfect replacement for red or orange, as both of the colors are so difficult to distinguish. I promise it’s not just me or the display I’m using. All of my buddies have this issue, and I’ve tried multiple screens and color settings. The colors are just too dang close.

past fox
#

Game crashes cant reconnect gets banned - Fix this

sharp belfry
upper citrus
#

glitch grenade is the last thing on light that needs a buff

maiden fox
#

remove nukes or the game is never going to have a competitive scene, there is zero to none counterplay and the double H nuke meta is actively killing the game

plucky torrent
#

Make mediums great again! Give defibrillators 2 charges since medium is the support class, it should be able to revive BOTH teamates.

sharp cipher
#

Work on Buggy backstep from dagger pls... so often it does not work ...

quick coyote
sonic spoke
#

lots of crashing today

orchid island
gaunt thunder
winged roost
quick coyote
#

did they flat out lie about matchmaking? lol

thorn elbow
nocturne flare
#

Text chat pls

trail jacinth
#

is anyone else sick of loading into games 2/3s done? tonight every quick play game I have gotten has been mostly done.

sonic spoke
near prism
quick coyote
maiden fox
twilit leaf
#

remove recon now not next patch @fierce flume get off my nuts I know you smell like shit tubby

dense swallow
#

Any word on possible custom matches coming in the near future?

fierce flume
split topaz
#

Me and friends love this game but we can’t all play together so we thought mabey you could add a mode like the practice arena but you can play with you friends or like quick cash but with 9 of your friends or mabey make a smaller map for 2 teams to go head to head

gentle wagon
#

HI OCTO IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN

plucky torrent
#

the game crashes every time i press alt + tab.

near prism
eager shard
#

no comms in half my matches????????

tawny karma
proud gate
#

When the new season drops, I think it would be a lot better to have a smaller map in the finals rounds of tournaments, that way the spawns are not bbn so unfortunate at times.

crude saffron
#

grapple needs a shorter cd

nocturne flare
#

Give heavy class a one shot sniper rifle like the AWP in CS or Op in Valorant, kthx!

gleaming tide
#

Egg throwing knife skin.

Thx.

south knot
#

BRING BACK CB2 SLIDING. INFINITE SLIDING WAS GOOD. ALL CLASSES COULD DO IT. MAKE MANTLING WORK LIKE IN CB1 IT WAS AMAZING AND YOU GOT RID OF IT. why

left jetty
#

Add more customization options for the crosshair

shut tartan
#

legit just need to remove recon sense from the game. come up with something else for the medium to use, the recon meta will kill this game

placid valley
nocturne flare
sage bison
#

This game is bleeding players xD, everyday down and down

plucky torrent
#

Queue times went from less than 30 second to a few minutes sometimes. The medium meta ruined the game. They wanted to make this an esport game but made so many mistakes it just cant be that right now.

weak swift
#

Increase female build ass

sharp flower
#

• Allow players to change the loadouts during the intro cutscene
• Take passive healing delay down a bit to make running M healer less of a necessity
• Certain abilities last a bit long (gas specifically)
• Smoke grenade should be bigger/ more opaque because it seems that gas/ fire does it's job better (because they damage)

tranquil eagle
#

the game could keep some serious longevity if they actually made a matchmaking for it. the current ranked experience feels like a joke or a prank. I played against a 3 stack of top 200 diamond 1's yesterday and I'm silver 3. there is no such thing as an esport when the top 500 best players are just shitting on lower levels with no real challenge. they arent taking the ranked matchmaking as seriously as they should be. ranked is where a huge majority of players end up when they are tired of pubs, but that huge majority has realized theres no point and moved on. I myself am playing less and less because the matchups are just unfair.

tame pivot
#

r e m o v e n u k e s

soft mist
#

Is your Maprotation System bugged again ? Or why do i get Monaco 8 times ina row :-____D

sharp belfry
warm vine
#

It would be nice to vote on what map we play or have the switch every hour

cerulean skiff
#

What if there were gadgets that gave passives?

Double jump, +30 HP, run/wall faster?
You lose a gadget slot, but gain buffs to your character

nocturne flare
#

Text chat!

harsh panther
#

Might have been suggested before but we should be able to visit maps in training to get adjusted to rotations

tame pivot
#

R E M O V E N U K E S

tHEY'RE FUN TO USE CUZ THEY BRAKE THE GAME

fierce flume
sharp belfry
modern wedge
#

more communication options PLEASE

worn oyster
#

Add more mods for the cheaters, they only have aimbot and walls atm

boreal wagon
#

Message to all the devs. You fucked up. your game is already en route to being dead. half apex's player count rn.
All because you left your game on dogshit balance for literally a month and it's STILL not fixed. this game is a ticking time bomb to being dead and irrelevant in the next 2 months if you dont do anything about it. goodbye the finals 🤷🏼‍♂️

paper jackal
weak swift
quick coyote
#

what are you talking about? the game peaks at 50,000 per day consistently on steam alone. who knows how many are across consoles.

are you trying to manifest the death of this game or something

@warm mauve so does every free 2 play. i dont know who expected this game to be for everyone on earth

warm mauve
winged roost
#

Can we please figure out why the game is crashing when no other games crash on pc? I mean played yesterday and can load into the game fine. When a match starts it just crashes. Done all I can, may have to find something else simply because I cannot play.

pliant flicker
#

yeah one of my buddies has been having issues with just crashing near the end of every game

daring fossil
#

im so glad GLs got buffed and are now getting spammed every game now

@quick coyote used to peak at 70k just a week ago

nocturne flare
#

Text chat when?

tame pivot
#

Remove nukes there's a shocking amount of people who literally cannot kill anyone unless they're nuking people

sour bane
#

Please improve the ranked mode:

  • Matchmaking. There is no matchmaking. Even after yesterday's improvements, unranked, bronze, silver, golds, plats, are still thrown into the same lobby.
  • The meta. Good luck playing anything other than MMM or MMH. I know this is being addressed, so I am going to try to be patient, but Medium is at least A-tier in every single thing they do -- getting info, defense (mines, turrets, etc), support, damage (FCAR), etc. Healing and Defib alone makes medium a must-have.
  • Light is viable if you're cracked, but there isn't any team utility with this class (Glitch is best used with a coordinated team). If you aren't getting kills, you have zero team utility. But Medium is way better as a slayer class, with just as good mobility, and higher HP, with wall hacks, and has one of the best guns in the game.
  • 90% of the people either aren't in voice chat, or don't talk. Or voice chat just doesn't work, because it's a buggy mess.
  • Solo queue manages to be worse than Siege's. You're also matched against three stack Mediums that run at least one Recon, so they know where you are across the entire map, controlling flow, spawns, etc. Why are unranked solo queue's matched up against three stacks?
  • If queue time is a concern (to make low queue time but accurate mm), then why do four rounds? Just stick with three rounds. I don't see any benefits to having to play all four rounds, when three rounds is just as fine.
  • Events (RNG) have no place in ranked mode.
  • Spawns often make no sense. I've had so many games where our Cash Out didn't have a single team come to us because spawns were not close to us. It doesn't even feel fair. And you're just twiddling your thumbs doing nothing. Meanwhile there's World War III going on in the other Cash Out because it's three teams fighting over one point.
  • If this game is supposed to be a Casual game, why even release a Ranked mode? It's almost like false hope...
storm siren
#

keep getting disconnected from ranked with the code tfge0015.
Everytime i try to restart the game and reconnect it gives me the same code.

sacred siren
#
  • make cute turret skin (idk googly eyes, cat ears or something, or a skin that changes the sound that turret makes when locking on, or even better an egg themed turret skin)
    • or knockoff r2d2 skin for turret that makes pew pew sound :o
  • add color options to clothing (i.e. giving other color versions of the career unlockable items)
  • add option to roll up sleeves on some cosmetic items to show the wristband/watch
  • namatama themed cosmetics that you can start unlocking with VR's after lvl 35/40 hug_friend
  • add this skin to the shop from the official art #official-art message (its a f2p game, give us actually good skins so you can make money and we can support the game without feeling like we're just donating money for subpar skins)
  • add different melee animations (whapping someone with a hammer, tom and jerry style, or equivalent)
  • different death animations (not that i die), like bursting into bills/namatama eggs/etc. instead of coins
  • add more lore based clothing and designs (i.e. sports wear from volpe, designer clothes from iseult, etc.)
  • a pirate skin like what the dude under me said
uncut anchor
#

I want a napoleon skin with the elite guard theme from the waterloo movie:3

shell lotus
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

quick coyote
primal storm
#

Anyone else unable to even start the game up since last patch? I get "MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK" error every time. Game has really gone downhill since beta lol

daring fossil
lofty crypt
#

Make better anticheat wtf 2 rounds in ranked lose because their are so many hackers

deft wing
#

Pleaseee bring keyboard and mouse support to console, force crossplay for players who use it so it cant be abused. Theres a lot of players like myself who only play this kind of game with MnK

glacial salmon
#

God i hate using invisiblity, idk how everyone thinks this is broken

grim aspen
#

This games balance is absolutely horrendous. I'm not playing til lights are nerfed. If a light is chasing you, there's literally nothing you can do. They run faster than you, guns are more accurate and have higher dps, can just go invisible or dash out of danger, meanwhile I throw every possible piece of utility I can and run crazy routes through buildings to lose them and it doesn't matter.

zinc wave
#

Pretty unfortunate that when the game crashes and i load back in while the game is still going, instead of loading me back in they give me a deserter penalty

gaunt thunder
solid narwhal
#

Devs just bring back kbm on console and add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework

opaque patio
gleaming tide
#

Egg throwing knife skin.

quick coyote
daring fossil
nocturne flare
#

Text chat

strange wagon
#

DELETE RECON WHY THE FUCK HAVE THE DEVS ADMITTED ITS A PROBLEM AND ITS STILL ENABLED LIKE JUST DISABLE IT FOR A WEEK FOR FUCKS SAKE

primal storm
#

Wish this game was good enough to even launch

dusty juniper
#

Why u here then

sour bane
tame pivot
median ibex
#

buff aim assist

sage bison
#

wallhacks are balanced, just use goo or smoke grenades to counter, light is the thing that needs addressing.

solemn topaz
#

FYI, there is a glitch with medium where the heal gun will not be able to heal anyone and you cannot see where grenades are going to go, Dying did not reset and getting fully wiped did not fix the problem. This directly affected gameplay and ended up resulting in a loss. Please look into why this is happening and fix it. This has happened twice now where the heal beam just won't work. Doesn't happen often, like I said only twice but still that's too often an entire mechanic won't work.

quaint totem
# tame pivot It's almost like most of the time you don't even have time to react 🤔

i would argue it's not even about reaction. the attack itself has too much in combination of traits (dmg, blast radius, speed). you can dodge some but one hitting is too impactful on the gameplay.

three main issues imo are that, hackers (the hardest one to address), and potentially performance (may push away a number of players, but we dont know stats on that)

gaunt thunder
placid valley
analog saffron
#

Mouse and Keyboard support for consoles please 🙏

nocturne flare
#

Text chat!

past fox
wind frost
#

pls fix backfill

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vast quail
quick coyote
#

Omg is that all the cry babies are sad about?! That they don't get a little red arrow??lmfao do you realize how slow those are? If you get hit by one you deserve it, use your eyes lol. But sure, embark please give these guys an incoming warning hahaha @tame pivot

@daring fossil you're average FCAR is more dangerous, like, you're just mad you died lol

glad delta
#

god heavy is so easy just have good aim and 70% of your problems disappear

I feel like lights should be the one class that can easy dodge a nuke. buff light plz

daring fossil
timid reef
gaunt thunder
primal storm
analog saffron
# past fox No hacks allowed

@past fox how is using a mouse and keyboard a hack I’m confused?

I’m just saying me and a lot of other people will gladly spend a nice chunk of money if it was supported. I don’t play fps with controller I don’t even get how anyone can be successful with them for real. I buy skins and battle passes all the time. It’s my guilty pleasure. Spent like $100 this week between me and my son.

I want to enjoy the game too.

proper cloak
#

Has anyone found a cure to the BSOD for this game? I downloaded and haven't been able to play as everytime i open i get BSOD

sour bane
#

Every ranked game, MMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Kill two Ms? Instantly full team is defibbed. YAWN.

Other than when Mercy's ultimate was buffed in Overwatch, I've never seen a more braindead meta in a FPS game ever.. Stacking M's instantly gives you an extra life

PLEASE balance Medium better

soft wedge
#

Random skin option

fervent coral
#

Please stop PUSHING ME BACKWARDS wen I vault broken debree

median ibex
#

Role lock to tournament/ranked would be a good improvement, cuz seriously MMM HMM HHH broken, plus keeps most people happy from having 2 lights on their team. @gaunt thunder how to balance an already uneven team

spiral merlin
#

Mnk for console just place us in pc lobbies so I don’t have to play ez controller lobbies and to make the bums stop crying because they clearly can’t understand that mnk players on console shouldn’t be playing against a different input

gaunt thunder
quick coyote
#

Thermal Vision needs to be fixed. 75 percent of the time it just won't work or highlight anything even when they're touching you and is more of an hinderance than an aid.

quick coyote
# daring fossil its cool bro, just dodge something you can't see or aren't looking at. also I ne...

Haha how can you not see it and why aren't you looking for it? It's an obvious threat.

@timid reef what game are you playing bro?? Any class can dodge these unless you're being shot in the back which guess what? You're dead anyway lmao

@gaunt thunder you can't avoid anything from behind you. That's why you watch your six or don't cross open area. To avoid things behind you. Oh yes because heavies are constantly wiping teams 😂 you saw one clip and hopped on the bandwagon.

Trust me. If you guys were actually good it wouldn't be an issue lol

shell lotus
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

daring fossil
halcyon hollow
#

NERF HEAVYS PLS

maiden igloo
analog saffron
woven briar
bleak onyx
#

is there a way to tun off mouse acceleration in this game, cause aiming/tracking feels awful

old lion
#

since like its gonna be summer, we should get a set (or just cosmetics) of Hawaiian/Tropical cosmetics, ranging from Flip Flops & Sunglasses, to Aloha shirts & straw hats. would be very cool and we should definitely add summer stickers so i can fit out my sledge to be the cleanest lookin sledgehammer out there

quick coyote
#

its kind of a problem with the game design. with only 3 people per squad and only 3 classes with such small amount of gear options.. there needs to be more options.. but they just keep balancing next to no content so the meta just shifts the instant they do anything to the current meta.

rose snow
gaunt thunder
#

Cause I hope in the next season there will be more ability’s for every class and ofc there will be a meta like in any other games but there will be other viable combinations like 2 lights with different abilities and a heavy with something new and things like that, and a role lock would just destroy this funny/different combinations

@pastel plaza actually yes cause that makes the game change slowly and making new strategies to counter the meta

pastel plaza
#

Just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s fun to play against

past fox
quick coyote
tranquil eagle
#

waiting for them to address the terrible matchmaking. i shouldn't be playing against top 200 global diamonds 1's as a silver 3

analog saffron
indigo osprey
opaque patio
sour bane
#

this is almost every ranked game. so much fun!

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shell lotus
# past fox its hacking vs controller players. If your playing against pc its fine. But the ...

You literally have no idea what you’re talking about on the topic and it’s people like you that advocate against this stuff which is hella annoying, there’s literally nothing unfair about it. ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in @past fox bro obviously we’re not trynna have aa with it, no other game does that why would be be asking for that here? We want regular I’m put not xim

quick coyote
past fox
formal cosmos
frank nymph
median ibex
#

nerf kbm

stone aurora
#

Pretty sure Nvidia overlay was causing my TFLA0003 and also had TFLA0002 or TLFA whatever, but once I restarted these 2 different codes came up until I disabled it. @median ibex Explain wtf u mean by that cuz that makes no sense on its own how else am I gonna play a joystick

woven briar
marsh wadi
#

why did they make the sawed off worse when it wasnt good to begin with
(or i might just be bad)

shell lotus
# past fox MNK could work if not paired with console aim assist. If its cross platform who ...

Bro that makes no sense, bro OBVIOUSLY nobody is asking for aa console kbm, we are asking for the choice of input, no game has ever added aa on kbm why would we be asking for that now

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

quick coyote
#

Just the no skill vocal minority. Now we have all medium meta rip

indigo osprey
long root
sand parcel
#

Grenade launcher should be nerfed or removed.

frank nymph
mint island
#

C4ing the sledgehammer please 🙏

opaque patio
#

@indigo osprey challenge for you type from:adarean in the search bar and look for you leaving a single suggestion or having a normal convo instead of just being an asshole

rocky verge
south knot
solemn topaz
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OKAY Heal guns not working again? Anyone know why? It just wont shoot!

tranquil eagle
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ranked is unfair unbalanced and a terrible experience #giveusmatchmaking 😤

marsh wadi
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i can understand removing something for being annoying, but in my experience when I shoot people from point blank it only deals like 40 damage. tbh i'm more annoyed than the person on the other end 😭 like i could understand a steep damage falloff for balance but it's like right in the guy's face (pause)

dire carbon
#

can we get rid of being put in matches that are basically already over. It's a waste of time to load into a match that's already ending and you're losing anyways

frank nymph
#

While medium is the most useful team play agent to pick, the heavy is equally as important with their dome shield and mesh shield for defense. Rockets and C4 for destruction (or quick kills) to make a fight 3v2.

With mediums, while we have a ton of versatility, we lack in destruction. Only our 2x explosive mines (which got nerfed, so why would you bring it?)
And red barrels.

They lack escape mechanism, and are required to play as a team to get the best value. Also the class requires setting up stuff first.

I wont go into recon, cause I know its a touchy subject. but my point is, individually, mediums are essential only because of their versatility, but alone they arnt that strong.

Role lock is something ill get into later, i need to head out for now.
But if you wanna continue the topic, just ping me in #⚡┇the-finals-chat

gaunt thunder
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Role lock would mean less imagination and creativity in teams, frustrating cause you have to play something you don’t enjoy and insta lockers that would leave cause they didn’t have the class they wanted, they just need to make light viable then the meta will change and be more diversified

@quick coyote a triple medium is very strong but if you add 1 heavy the team is 2 times better cause heavy is so broken and easy to use, medium is strong but at least it needs some skills to be really broken

shell lotus
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@indigo osprey People like you make me so mad, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MONEY TO PAY FOR A PC, and pc players get to use kbm and controller but this game we are bound to one input? Bs, go take that negative energy somewhere else cuz some people can barley afford to console game and you wanna sit around here and tell someone to just by a 2k pc like it’s just easy, like pc parts haven’t skyrocketed, and I have friends across other platforms what am I supposed to do? Not play with them nah, we just want freedom of input just like anyone else

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

marsh wadi
quick coyote
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Same thing as before, don't rely on Twitch reflexes, and learn to use your eyes. Stop trying to get faster and start trying to be smarter.

fast rock
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Some one have cpu usage for 100% ?

daring fossil
proven kettle
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fuck roll lock into hell thanks

quick coyote
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I'm a heavy main, Cardinal of the church of the hammer, blessed may he smash. If you couldn't see invis, and you didn't have situational awareness, and let the light get that close to you... I can't help you.

Like I grew up on tom Clancy rainbow six, not that siege shit, one shot one kill.

All I can suggest is hit the practice range bro

tiny grail
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Custom matches plz

gaunt thunder
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What’s the problem of having 2 mediums? Rn it’s a problem cause there is only 2 viable teams but if they add more things then we would start to see more HHM, LHM, LMM etc etc.. but with role lock we would always see the same HML with same equipment every time

@quick coyote of course you are a heavy main that’s why you defending nukes 😂 you have no skill
You can’t compare rainbow with the finals if the finals would have 1 shot headshot it would be awful the finals needs a bit of a slower ttk just like ow or apex

dawn sand
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the throwing dagger damage could be buffed a smidge with how hard it is to hit

indigo osprey
quartz girder
#

When I shoot someone close to me with a rpg and I die and get massive self damage but the other person doesn’t any take any damage something is wrong people

opaque patio
daring fossil
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why does it take 17 v9s shots to destroy a zip line but 2 quick melees?

@quartz girder nope, that's how they "balanced" the rpg. 100% intentional.

quick coyote
# gaunt thunder What’s the problem of having 2 mediums? Rn it’s a problem cause there is only 2 ...

Bro of course you can. The difference is to play like everything is a threat all the time. Don't rely on some red arrow to tell you what's happening.

And you can't accuse me of no skill when I'm not the one crying about how hard the game is.

I'm the one playing, adapting, and winning. While you sit here and cry "if only nukes weren't real I'd be better" when really if you practiced more or tried something different you'd be better. Smh learn a thing or two

gaunt thunder
# quick coyote Bro of course you can. The difference is to play like everything is a threat al...

Bro I have 100% more elo then you more kd and more wl, I play heavy sometimes and make crazy rounds just cause he is so broken and easy to use so I adapted pretty well, it’s just to powerful and it needs a nerf just like recon (my main), but you are saying to not nerf nukes just cause you use them and you can’t see how broken it is cause you want to think that you are good at something

@knotty briar if you don’t get to the final you nearly don’t get any elo so yes more play time but also more wins 🙂

daring fossil
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I have over 400 hours as a light since alpha and I mostly play medium now or sometimes meme with heavy (and I used to never play heavy) because I just die every 30 seconds and random team mates are usually trash. I don't even play ranked cuz im not solo queueing that, and the last 2 games I've been in my team mates are just griefing. First game a medium and a light just throwing gas at each other all game, and just now I was back filled into a game with 2 heavies as one of them jumps off the map, I revived him just for him to chase me around shooting me with a goo gun, and then the other team mate spawned and started doing the same thing, so I just reported and blocked both of them and left. I'm maxed out so XP means nothing now.

junior arrow
quick coyote
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Dont listen to bad word dev
They just want to hurt your feelin

daring fossil
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oh well, I never used to leave games, but now I will because there's no loss and there's no point staying in a match where im not having fun.

gaunt thunder
# quick coyote Dude no you can't because if you could play that well on heavy you'd play that w...

So if you are so good with heavy (only nukes) you should be able to play good medium 🤡 ofc I adapt and play accordingly to the meta if not I wouldn’t be top 1500 rn but i can see what’s op what’s good and what’s bad and you clearly don’t thats why I’m asking the devs to nerf what I use cause i know it’s op like recon and buff what’s bad like light and you just don’t want to accept that nukes are op and they don’t require any skill cause that makes you feel better

gleaming tide
#

Egg throwing knife skins. Thx.

quick coyote
#

I just want a taco on a stick sledge hammer

cold pilot
quick coyote
normal fable
#

Deserved to lose 83% of it's PC playerbase sorry (I am aware that new games lose new players, but 83% is still a lot)

quick coyote
# gaunt thunder So if you are so good with heavy (only nukes) you should be able to play good me...

Yeah, obviously medium is easy to play. They have better mobility than light and FCAR is point and click Cheez (although I'm partial to riot shield myself).

But yeah, I win with every class I play.

Can you even imagine what we dealt with back in the og battlefield days?? You would try to hold an objective and a mfing Abrams would roll in.

You'd charge at it with a c4, try to escape the blast radius, detonate, switch to an RPG and manoeuver behind it (because hitting the back plate did extra damage), hope to god you did enough damage to immobilize it and they pilot would jump out (while avoiding the gunfire of his co pilot), take over the tank, shoot the GD apachi attack helicopter in the air with the main cannon, jump out while it randomly exploded, took cover under rubble from the mortar fire literally from across the map, while shooting enemies in the adjacent building. And we actually ran out of bullets. And didn't Regen health.

Nukes are fine you just don't want to deal with the bigger problem, which is yourself.

@quick coyote the player count isn't going down because the game wasn't balanced, it's going down because the devs are only listening to a vocal minority of no talent players.

Devs know how to make a great game they are just scared to do it

upper citrus
gaunt thunder
daring fossil
plucky veldt
#

this game need change name
the fk medium. all game MMM MMM MMM MMM

past fox
indigo osprey
karmic flax
#

Does anybody else’s game crash way to often?

quick coyote
cold pilot
placid valley
quick coyote
final shore
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will the recon rework bring back the player?

gaunt thunder
stark wolf
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why have a ranked system when its not truly ranked. This shit is starting to frustrate me

grizzled wyvern
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Make game $80 so people who suck at fps game aren’t inclined to play bc holy god randoms are not good

marsh wadi
sour bane
#

ranked sure has a diverse meta!

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quick coyote
# marsh wadi

IT HAPPENS EVERYTIME. THIS EVEN HAPPENS TO ME WITH THE MODEL NOW. All I can do is just FCAR now. Like I'm reloading 8 times to kill a turret with a model, but then FCAR just melts the turret in one Mag and I can do it far away.

frail prawn
# final shore will the recon rework bring back the player?

They need to fix the issues and theeen.... drop a huge update and maybe that will work to bring back some players, hope that happends soon

@gaunt thunder @quick coyote Tbh, both classes are easy, Heavy can do One-Shot with C4s which is free kills and Medium with FCAR and Recon is for sure the easiest playstyle on the game, its not a lie than at least for now, Medium is easier than the other classes but cmon dude, nukes are maybe the 2nd most easy way to kill just behind FCAR so both stop, this is a Feedback Chat not a Reddit post stopegg

@quick coyote That's not even close to the response I was expecting lmao, this chat is surely a strange place

vernal ermine
#

please let us play with k&m on consoles, we’re all praying for this

normal fable
quick coyote
upper citrus
vocal cave
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good to see that this chat is still wholesome 😊

tranquil eagle
harsh iron
#

Playtester's opinion:

The Recon ability needs to be revamped. It's what's driving players away.

Getting beamed by a recon medium with an FCAR at range is highly irritating. Not only to the one getting fragged, but ALSO to the team they're with!

That recon's teammates are both hunkered inside a nearby building defending a cashout, while the recon is on the roof trying to get headshots from a mile away because they have wallhacks, and when they get deleted they become a liability for their team.

Let's turn these two negatives into a positive! (My math isn't great but I think that works)

Here's my proposal:

Recon is now a pulse ability with an 18 second cooldown. Recon now gives a CLEAR indication of the enemy TEAMS position and how SPREAD OUT they are for 1.5 seconds.

I don't need to know the EXACT location of an enemy player, that's wallhacks, that encourages people to not play the objective and just futz around with wallhacks. Recon should be about getting the BIG PICTURE idea of what's happening in the match, where the other teams are, and how spread out they are.

The visual effect can be creatively done in-theme, with a way to translate the general position of an enemy team, and how spread apart they are (diffuse/glitchy = spread out, oversaturated/solid = they're holding hands). And as to their exact location. this needs to be by design within a broad degree of error.

TL DR:

Revealing exact locations for extended periods of time = wallhacks = no fun for anyone
Revealing general positions to entire team infrequently = gives team ability to make judgement calls on state of play

wary sapphire
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  1. SBMM in rank is really really unfair after the patch. Im literally playing against top 10 Diamond players all the time and they are three stacking and im just duo Queing. In general even before the patch it felt like the sbmm is not Balanced in Rank, hidden mmr seems not to work how it suppost to work

  2. C4 Red Nukes still the same as before patch. Literally takes no skill and a heavy can easily wipe a team.

  3. Recon needs to be nerfed asap, but you are already working on it.

dull hemlock
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Remove/rework dead go boom already. Whoever decided an event should exist that hard counters an entire weapon type in a mode you can't swap really, really needs to rethink event design.

Honorable mention to low gravity.

placid valley
normal fable
rough herald
#

my fit is jail theme but it's not drippy when it's all yellow instead of orange

grizzled wyvern
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Make it so you don’t have to have a few shots before solo queuing

dense marlin
upper citrus
shell lotus
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

limber urchin
manic aspen
frail prawn
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Normal Nukes are no longer an issue tbh, only the canister ones, so C4 only need to add more weight to canisters+C4 and it will be just fine

But I would preffer to reduce the hp of the C4s and make them explode almost on hit like the mines, then the dmg wouldn't be an issue since its also a risk for them

normal fable
shrewd plank
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Why people still cry about item balancing when the problem is clear. You meet every ranked atleast a hacker team that will farm you in the final round.

cerulean skiff
# manic aspen nukes still need a nerf

I agree. C4 should be limited to 1 out at a time, but then that would still leave mines.

So maybe the only fix is 1 attachable per canister. Because it's a legitimate strat to attach a breach or c4 to a canister to make it a ranged wall destroyer.

quick coyote
vernal ermine
#

add the freaking kbm on console already

upper citrus
# normal fable <@546889700183375872> I can't reply for another 5 minutes, but the problem for m...

I don’t really think the game needs players to come back. Assuming it continues to get regular content updates, the game will retain a playerbase of probably >30k. which is extremely good considering the last new PVP FPS game to retain any playerbase was valorant which released 4 years ago. The Finals also released during winter break and people are going back to school and are busier. I’d imagine that the season 2 launch will also bring back a ton of the players who left due to balance issues and bugs at the start of season 1. similar to how chapter OG and chapter 5 brought back a ton of old players to fortnite. Why do you think the game deserved to lose players though?

tranquil eagle
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When embark released an fps cap in 1.5 I immediately noticed it gets reset every time you close the game. i reported this with the official bug report method, and I assume multiple other people have too. still hasnt been fixed after 2 patches and a hotfix. its crazy because its a very simple fix. i have concluded there is no reason to report bugs in this game.

shell lotus
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

charred burrow
#

WE NEED FACIAL HAIR 😭😭

placid valley
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WE NEED RECON BUFF 😭😭

gaunt thunder
lost orchid
#

Title: Add a key bind for quick swap
Details: "Q" only works if you have certain specializations, also when medium players accidently press q twice when trying to take out healing beam, they just end up shooting their gun instead

worn oyster
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Buff the hackers aimbot, they are keeping this game alive and healthy, we need more of them

limber urchin
coral axle
feral bloom
#

This fucking bug is irritating now

placid valley
normal fable
cerulean skiff
naive flicker
#

🪧 Remove AA changes! Console will die!🪧

Possible soutions to replace the aim assist patch:

  1. They disable crossplay entirely and have 2 different builds of the game. This would be a nuclear option not recommended.

  2. They buff MKB users by giving them bullet magnetism. Buff instead of nerf. That's always better.

  3. They can filter inputs on PC. Forcing controller PC players to play with console or have they're own subdivision on PC.

  4. Have it so when console players enable crossplay they have this patches current aim assist. When disabled have pre patch aim assist

vernal ermine
past fox
quick coyote
marsh oriole
#

R E M O V E W A L L H A C K F R O M T H E G A M E

manic aspen
placid valley
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Please buff recon, because I really like Medusa's gameplay, and it would be great if people I see can't move.
🐍🐍🐍

quick coyote
shell lotus
near scroll
vernal ermine
#

yesss

quick coyote
edgy wharf
#

Suggestion: Color variants for items already owned. Especially level rewards.

worn oyster
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Decrease light hp, increase heavy hp and buff defib to be able to res two people at once

manic aspen
ebon elbow
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

quiet furnace
quick coyote
#

I literally can't log into the game anymore. I am getting the error TFLA0002. The issue just came up today, although I was able to play early in the morning. I have linked my embark and steam ID's, verified game files, deleted and redownloaded the game, verified game files and tried ethernet. I currently have updated drivers and perfectly good internet that I play with other games on. Does anyone know wtf is going on?

languid lotus
#

pwease add stick skin daddy Embark

quick coyote
placid valley
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So the only way to counter cheater is using recon in-game cheating. Buff it, that will be the only chance leading us to victory!
💪🏻 💪🏻 💪🏻 💪🏻

cunning dagger
#

Improved matchmaking so much that not able to find a match for 6 minutes now
Thanks 🙂

ebon elbow
#

I don’t see why it’s a problem, look at Roblox or cod they have no problem supporting it

shell lotus
# quiet furnace Bro, if you want to play with MnK then buy a damn computer. Otherwise, shut up… ...

People like you make me so mad, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MONEY TO PAY FOR A PC, and pc players get to use kbm and controller but this game we are bound to one input? Bs, go take that negative energy somewhere else cuz some people can barley afford to console game and you wanna sit around here and tell someone to just by a 2k pc like it’s just easy, like pc parts haven’t skyrocketed, and I have friends across other platforms what am I supposed to do? Not play with them nah, we just want freedom of input just like anyone else

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

violet elbow
ebon peak
quiet furnace
steep patio
mild veldt
#

Please Devs, just give us a list about things you guys are planning to do or are at least aware of, it would prevent alot of repetitive requests and also make people less desperate.

It's just a simple list, take your time to solve them correctly. We really want the The Finals to be the best as it could be, but the of lack tracking make people discouraged to put faith in the game.

harsh trail
#

day 3️⃣0️⃣ of asking for a throwing knives overhaul to increase their viability

THANK YOU EMBARK FOR IMPLEMENTING ONE OF THE REQUESTED CHANGES, BUT WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO..

the throwing knives deal great damage but the problem comes from the clunkiness of the projectiles and the inconsistency of their behavior.

some things that could be done to resolve this issue:

🔪 slightly reduce projectile drop off
🔪 slightly increase projectile speed
🔪 allow right click to be held
🔪 tweak animations to feel more impactful, they feel very weak. almost if you're throwing spoons 🥄

please show some love to this weapon embark! see you all on day 31!

placid valley
gaunt thunder
hallow ruin
#

Can I have some "yes" stikers on this message

umbral beacon
#

This game needs more incentives, or something like more lvls. Or a form of prestige?

ebon elbow
#

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

jagged vector
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Lights invisibility needs more of a cool down before use or shouldn’t be able to just constantly hit invisibility I get it their health is low but it’s so frustrating shooting one then them going invisible loosing them and then boom they are behind you with shotgun aimed at your head

languid lotus
#

make it easier to fall into windows on roofs, im tired of playing hop scotch with them

bold lantern
plucky veldt
#

embark want 'the mediums' = left 25k player lol

naive apex
runic widget
#

I don’t know if this will fall on deaf ears. But this game is amazing and I’m more passionate about it than I have been over a game in a long whole. I had a suggestion for abilities for each class. I think a “blink” ability for the light would be useful and cool. But not one that would be used in the traditional way. The blink would be short rang and allow the player to teleport through walls/objects. Heavy would have a lifestyle ability which gave 50% health back for damage dealt on elimination of a player, if you’re the last member I’ve on your team you receive 100% lifestyle on damage dealt after elimination “last stand” was what I was thinking for a name. And the medium could have incendiary rounds. (Which could potentially be a little busted I guess) I hope this finds someone at your headquarters. Love the game keep it up

polar cradle
#

low gravity really fucks over grenade launchers

half swallow
# quiet furnace Bro, if you want to play with MnK then buy a damn computer. Otherwise, shut up… ...

You are archaic and unscientific plus myopic too. You can't see the future of Gaming. Gaming is moving to any computing electronic device and accessibility is becoming the thing of the new era. Left for people like you, special people won't have a chance to experience Gaming, ignorant people like you will tell such people Gaming is not meant for special people. Even if Gaming moves to smart phones, they can connect controllers and should also be able to connect K/M. That is where Gaming is heading to,that is why the console Devs have implemented the use of Keyboard and mouse support so left with the game Devs to take advantage of this. If you were to be Playstation CEO you will not have ported the exclusive onto PC because you are not smart in thinking and you can't see the future.

lunar plaza
#

please add the ability to see what added friends are doing in the game right now, how long he plays in this round, etc. because sometimes you add someone to play later, because now you can’t, but then it’s very difficult to catch the moment when a person can finally be invited and when he will definitely enter your lobby, because he simply doesn’t see your invitations

old shore
#

what is the most combat score you guys have gotten

runic widget
#

I also thought like a super weapons would be cool idea. None do like direct damage and you could obtain them by one of those hanging boxes that would spawn in the middle of the map. You could have like the gun from portal spawn and you could just play around with it in game till it’s out of ammo. And they only come ones per game

placid valley
quick coyote
shadow sentinel
#

As far as I can tell there is still zero SBMM/MMR in ranked. Getting two bronze teammates vs. leaderboard Diamond 1 three stacks and insta queues still.

Please add 🙏

ebon elbow
lapis pollen
#

I think Embark should change their thinking. What The Finals needs is not a useless balance of nerf this and nerf that. What it really needs is new content and cool gameplay to attract players.

Especially the dagger. I still can’t understand why you change the right-click of dagger. Beta version is far way better than now. You killed the coolest gameplay in the entire game.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CG411Y7nQ/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=6aa248b2cfd7bba1c7db3a6cc88c1b17

You will never be able to please everyone if you keep balance and nerf every thing to the ground.

echo crescent
#

nukes should be nerfed ngl 👀

lament talon
#

He's right sadly enough the game won't grow without any grind and something similar being in the game

nimble steppe
#

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

dull hemlock
# lapis pollen I think Embark should change their thinking. What The Finals needs is not a usel...

Except right now they're reining in things that aren't fun. If you really think wall hacks are fun to deal with and will ever be fun then you don't really understand the game.

Similar for things like RPG/nuke one shots. Those aren't fun. By all means keep fun things in the game overall, but once they start negatively impacting the game for other people, that's a problem.

Bonus: Frankly dagger is one of those things. I'm glad it isn't a strong weapon right now, as it's a one shot mechanic that also isn't really fun to deal with. It's not a huge threat, but the dagger forces you to change up how you play entirely just by virtue of its existence, even when it's not nearby.

quiet furnace
quick coyote
half swallow
# quick coyote Turn off crossplay if you dont want to play with/against mnk players . Or buy a ...

You are archaic and unscientific plus myopic too. You can't see the future of Gaming. Gaming is moving to any computing electronic device and accessibility is becoming the thing of the new era. Left for people like you, special people won't have a chance to experience Gaming, ignorant people like you will tell such people Gaming is not meant for special people. Even if Gaming moves to smart phones, they can connect controllers and should also be able to connect K/M. That is where Gaming is heading to,that is why the console Devs have implemented the use of Keyboard and mouse support so left with the game Devs to take advantage of this. If you were to be Playstation CEO you will not have ported the exclusive onto PC because you are not smart in thinking and you can't see the future.

lapis pollen
# dull hemlock Except right now they're reining in things that *aren't* fun. If you really thin...

But you see the results, even with the most reasonable nerf, some people will become dissatisfied and leave. The only people they can please are the remaining people, which does not help attract new players.

I'd rather make the whole game Ninja playstyle than have everyone torture each other with weapons that are hard to use and nerfed to the ground.

My opinion is that beta version is better than now, light can kill heavy easily, heavy can rpg light, medium is easy to use and strong enough.

lavish shard
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Rework stungun its so unfair

rustic sandal
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not sure exactly what changes made to ranked were made - i know they tightened the skill gap etc.. but especially for OCE this means you cannot find a game now. with low population further splitting the playerbase essentially means its impossible to play ranked.

ebon elbow
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Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

quick coyote
# half swallow You are archaic and unscientific plus myopic too. You can't see the future of Ga...

U only think about what u want and not about what is good for the community . YOU should've thought twice before buying a console . Even if Gaming moves to smart phones, they shouldn't connect controllers and shouldn't be able to connect K/M because that is why touchscreens exist , to replace them. That is where Gaming should be heading to . If you were to be Playstation CEO playstation wouldnt be a thing now cause you cant think right . @half swallow @ebon elbow these are facts . Stop botting . And , Nobody cares . Cope w it .

strange wagon
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fr

storm patrol
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I think the update narrowing MMR has killed OCE lobbies. Also splitting the player base through casual tournaments and ranked has made it impossible at all to find a game in ranked.

ebon elbow
dull hemlock
subtle oak
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No mouse and keyboard support on console until input based matchmaking is added please.

polar inlet
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Some suggestions, based on my experience and my friends:

  • There should be a setting to swap back to main weapon after using a gadget. Say you are firing, throw a cheeky frag, then you want to be back on the weapon and not the second frag.
  • Similarly, it should be that you switch to the grenade you want to have active, then press a button for each throw
  • The UI/UX could be improved, some friends at times they get lost and don't know what they are supposed to do next (I tell them skill issue, but maybe bigger UI elements, or that they pulse, the cashout points for example)
  • Enable automatic reload option, so that after X time, if the weapon can be reload, it will reload it, and gets cancelled when firing.
  • More feedback when you can insert coin (respawn), sometimes we are absorbed watching a teammate play and the sound/UI doesnt make it as obvious that you can respawn (probably skill issue too).
misty valve
dry kiln
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Entering a super late game should not count against your career record as a lost

weak swift
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Increase female build breast size

light parcel
pseudo latch
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Oh and also I want a Ks23 shotgun on heavy because it would be cool

But here’s my crack at some gadget concepts, aptly themed too.

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still fjord
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any fixes for tfla0002? After the new patch its all I get, when I try to sign in on the id.embark.games page it takes me to my steam sign in and then wont actually take me to the account page. Works fine on my phone and ive tried firefox, edge and chrome on pc just to see if it was a browser issue. I'm assuming it's related to why I can't login but can't find a way to actually login on the website properly

fixed, not sure what issue was. Just followed every possible step in #⚡┇the-finals-chat pinned.

quick coyote
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i would say that adding a "good player rewards system" can be agood add on also to make aquiring stuff slower.

shrewd plank
#

Battlepass cheater still plays the game (video proof)
https://youtu.be/ITjTcuiJdM0
https://youtu.be/V5fdf7rRXC8

Rank 24h Name Cashouts Fame
7831 +1429 FunBrain#6130 $8,731,899 Diamond 1 (28 550)

@fickle linden @wispy palm @wheat fractal @quick coyote @dense niche @quick coyote @feral osprey

honest abyss
#

The game is dead, UI say queue time is less than 1 min, I've been waiting for 3

weak swift
#

Skill issue^^^

quick coyote
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reported this guys, team that knows your location even inimpossible situations and do full dmg no matter in what way or what amount of times they shoot at players. would be nice to look at itmaybe? dont consider skill issue this is first time that this happens to me really. absolutely strange. to the point that was impossible to play we just gave up.

latent root
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Im pretty sure the devs are already aware of this but here we go.
It doesnt happen that often but in ranked after i for example played the first round and get to round 2 my game crashes and when i start it back up and try to reconnect it tells me the server is not responding. also had this happen with people on discord where 2 of us were perfectly fine but our 3rd couldnt reconnect.
This has only happened 4 or 5 times to me so far but because i cant play the match it evaluates it as if i quit the round and therefore i cant play tournaments for a certain time period.
The last time this has happened i got "banned" from tournaments for 2 hours and im scared of the time increasing further if this keeps happening. is there any maximum time? Does it reset once you have played enough matches normally?
This is something that really needs to be looked into in my opinion. Really quite sad when youre playing well and all of a sudden you cant play for 2 hours

quick rain
blissful bridge
#

Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox

Revolver:
-Revert Range Nerf from 1.5.5 Patch

Light Class:
-Faster Regen Time
-Add Teamplay Health/Shield Bomb akin to the Vanish Bomb
-Fix Hit-Reg issues with M-11 and XP-54 (bullets don't register consistently)

Grapple and Evasive Dash:
-Reduce Cooldown Time

Thermal Vision:
-Changed to Togglable (Quick Use / No Device)

Mode Rule Variations:
There are map variations and it would be cool to see rule variations in casual modes.

QUICK-CASH
"Over-Time Rule"
During this match the timer will stop while the Cashout is being stolen.

"Cashbox Money Loss"
During this match the Cashbox will lose value the longer it stays in the field.

BANK-IT / SOLO BANK-IT
"Vanishing Coins"
During this match dropped Coins will disappear after 5-15 seconds

"No Vaults"
During this match Coins will only drop from eliminated Contestants.

QUALITY OF LIFE

Dead Go Boom - Trophies tick down 5 secs with loud audio cue and are throwable by anyone.
Contestant Characters increased from 6 to 9
Ability to Invite Teammates into the Practice Range

Team Loadouts viewable by button press in scoreboard menu
Enemy Specializations viewable in scoreboard menu
Enemy Class viewable in scoreboard while they are dead

VR Bucks into Coin (3,000VR = 150 coins) or Cosmetics buyable with VR bucks or unlocked through in-game actions.
Color Wheel for Cosmetics (primary, secondary, and accent)
Replay Mode

FORGE MODE AND CU$TOM LOBBIES

clever surge
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Played the buffed CL-40, and I have two opinions on that.

First one is, that it didnt need the dmg buff, maybe better splash dmg fallof that its getting from 10 more dmg is the real buff here, but idk.

Second one is that this thing compared to R.357 is just straight out broken. With revolver i had to pick my fights carefully, with CL-40 and careful mine placement I can dominate two teams at once.

So why nerfing the revolver, but buffing the grenade launcher? Im playing with one eye opened now, and my K/D and win ratio just went straight through the roof?

You guys need to revert fallof on revolver. At least. Its just stupid.

still fjord
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i literally cannot open the game to do this

fossil walrus
quick coyote
craggy remnant
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I mean the only thing missing from this game is customs. I don't understand why they haven't put it in yet but I think its the time they should do it

violet elbow
quick rain
grim steeple
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I don't like reloading my gadgets. It feels very awkward after they already had a cool down.

lavish shard
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Why buff the flamethrower 😔😔

winged roost
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Still need a resolution for the game crashing. It is not the PC because Warzone, apex, CS2 all work flawlessly. Started yesterday and my system is far too beefy to have crashing at the start of matches every game.

quick coyote
sleek brook
dusky apex
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estimated queue time please

abstract elbow
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Are the people at embark trolling? Why say you changed match making when it’s clearly not fixed? Solo Q into a top 100 while getting a bronze 1 teammate lol?

hazy pollen
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Please make pick up and interact as one action. E or F button. Why they are not the same action?

violet elbow
nocturne flare
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Text chat!

lavish shard
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Cloak + stungun=
Cant see
Cant moove
Cant aim
Cant use your abilities
👍👍👍

quick coyote
primal wraith
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Me and my Group quit the finals because u have cheater in every second Match if u are higher than Gold 1. Unplayable and i know so many others which stop playing too because one of the biggest cheater Problem at higher ranked matches which we ever seen

hard wasp
nocturne flare
queen cloud
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Feedback after 200h. Top 1000 for a long time before stopped playing.

  • Devs can't balanced the game around high level play. High level fps players are leaving/losing interest, no twitch viewership, no esport scene. There is qsnipes but like...
  • Aimassist still OP af.
  • still a lot of cheaters
  • Why buff CL40/flametrower/LH1 and nerf revolver?! Stop taking feedback from noobs pls...
worn oyster
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Let’s remove oce servers all together, Australia and nz don’t need to even play the game

burnt lark
# queen cloud Feedback after 200h. Top 1000 for a long time before stopped playing. - Devs ca...

FR they need to delete this discord lol, ppl complaining about things that are easy to counter while the hug their fcar. devs should just play the game for 20 hours and it would be obvious what needs to be changed. dont need "data" that probably is about as accurate as the other geometrics in the game or input from people that are so bad they dont know how to range a flamethrower or turn and hip fire a stun gun while theyre swapping

zenith ocean
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sword needs buff 🤡

naive flicker
# violet elbow dumbing down mnk because roller players want easy mode again would be horrible, ...

Okay I can respect that. But us roller players want to have fun again. I really hope the devs come up with some type of soution. Still counting down the clock to season 2 and holding my breath if not I'm going to have to quit. It's just not fun anymore. Can only play 2 - 4 games now and I want to call it quits. Before I was literally plsying this game all day. I Still perform well but it's just not the same. I wish more people understood that.

obsidian solar
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BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
  • Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
  • Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

  • Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

  • Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
  • Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
  • Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

NERF THE DEAD GO BOOM:

  • This event is extremly unfair for melee users, you cannot avoid it if you get a kill
  • Either increase the time before the explosion to at least 3 secons OR make it so the explosions don't damage players but only the enviroment
queen cloud
# naive flicker Okay I can respect that. But us roller players want to have fun again. I really ...

aimassist is still very strong. Especially on pc with good frame rate. aimsnap still a thing with auto guns...
Aimassist shouldn't exist in crossplay lobbies.

If controllers want aimskill removed there needs to be separate lobbies soo they can all enjoy aimboting each other.
People want singleplayer levels of aimassist, they don't want to get good, they just want easy and screw the players that actually care about aim/being good mechanically.

plush grotto
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Make sniper one shot body shot heavies

fossil citrus
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i love the music in this game, a lot of tracks dont seem to get old, but some music doesn't fit with certain maps
for example, Monaco should have a certain song rather than the same upbeat electronic music on other maps

nocturne flare
plain wharf
limber urchin
stark turtle
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Pls add killcam, it can be very good for this game

woeful arch
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Maxed battle pass. Maxed account level. Got almost all Steam achievements (except the ones that require timing and aiming from ziplines type stuff). I wanted to play beyond that as I love the game but it got me into a toxic and stressful mindset where I play to win, instead of playing to get objectives done/XP (both are irrelevant to me now, since I maxed out everything the game has to reward with XP except maybe for weapon skins but I don't really care for those). I'd love to keep a healthy outlook on the game, and not have to stick to limited respawn tournaments or last-second wins in Quick Cash as they provide sweaty gameplays that aren't suitable when you just want to chill and play casually.

I was brainstorming game mode ideas that'd keep me playing the game between battle passes and account level upgrades.

  • "The Heist": 2x teams of 6 people each, fight off on a map that looks like the inside of a bank. There's 5x Vault doors to defend for one team, and capture for the other team. Defenders have a 20 second penalty respawn when they get killed. The team defending must make sure the other team gets very few doors opened, if any. The team attacking must ideally reach the final vault. Round 1: team A defends and team B attacks. Round 2: team A attacks and team B defends. The winning team, is the one that got the most doors opened, in the shortest amount of time.
  • "The Heist VS AI": Variant of the game mode above, where the team A would be bot players and the team B would be actual players. There could be a "casual" AI version and a "highly skilled" AI version of this mode. The casual AI version would deal average damage to real players. The skilled AI version would deal severe damage to real players. Each time a player gets killed, they get to pick a different class entirely. This game mode is meant to be more of a chill Practice Range mode, where new and veteran players alike, get to test their loadouts all while being good and healthy teammates. This game mode would reward half of the XP of the other game modes as it'd be more for fun and practice than anything else. It's about "getting good".
  • "Mystery Loadout": this could be a game variant for all game modes, Quick Cash, Bank It and The Heist above. Essentially, player picks a class in their personal lobby, and once they join the game mode, the AI randomizes the specializations and weapons that the player account has unlocked with VR. The purpose of this game mode, is to get outside of one's comfort zone, and to practice new ways to score a win. As a player with hundreds of hours into the game, it's easy to fall into habits and become a die-hard fan of one way to play the game. Dailies and weeklies will sometimes tell you to use different specializations/weapons/gadgets but once the objectives are done, the player never engages with those items again. This is a way to make it a more durable and engaging experience, to try different specializations/weapons/gadgets consistently.
  • "All In": in this game mode, the Players face each other in 3 rounds (3min to 5 min per round). Each round, they must select a unique class that they won't have access to anymore in the coming round. If you select the "Light" class in round 1, then you won't be able to select it anymore for round 2 and round 3. The gameplay would be about capturing and defending 3 different cashout locations across the maps. The team that secured the most cashouts by the end of the timer wins. Or the team that has the highest objectives score, if there's a tie. Here again, the idea is to to shake the player's habit of sticking to a "main" type of gameplay, and engage the player in trying different things, just to experience pure clean chaotic fun.
naive flicker
# queen cloud aimassist is still very strong. Especially on pc with good frame rate. aimsnap s...

You had me at the crossplay part. Screw all that other nonsense. You don't need "aimbot" on console to do well. Like literally pre patch. I would drop 40 bombs. By your logic everyone else should too. Hardly anyone else ever did at least in my lobbies. Hardly anyone broke 15 kills. "Aiming" isn't the only skill in this game. Gamesense and teamwork are more important. That's why console was so peaceful only suggesting small tweaks of balancing not altering the whole damn game with AA

burnt lark
#

who needs game sense when you have recon sense?

outer snow
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I'm still pretty dissatisfied with the non gameplay player interaction.

  • This is a very teamplay focussed game. It should be possible to have an option to only match with "mic user" players.
  • The friendlist interaction possibilities must be greatly optimized and increased, such as being able to see if someone is already in a match so you don't waste an invite on him, being able to write friends and also having a better connectivity to Steam Friends or going to Steam profiles. Also seeing friend stats (rank, level, K/D etc) needs to be integrated
  • Matchmaking options. I still don't feel that the games are balanced even if it's supposed to be SBMM. Especially my first point (mic user) needs to be able to be switched on or off. It kills teamplay if you play tournaments with non mic users. Also having a longer time to set up loadouts in tournaments according to team and enemies
  • Being able to see player ranks in tournament stats at match end should be available too
queen cloud
blissful bridge
#

Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox

Recon Senses:
-Non-Togglable
-30sec / 45sec Cooldown
-Reduced Range Image Quality
-Louder and Constant audio clue from player using it

Revolver:
-Revert Range Nerf from 1.5.5 Patch

Light Class:
-Faster Regen Time
-Add Teamplay Health/Shield Bomb akin to the Vanish Bomb
-Fix Hit-Reg issues with M-11 and XP-54 (bullets don't register consistently)

Grapple and Evasive Dash:
-Reduce Cooldown Time

Thermal Vision:
-Changed to Togglable (Quick Use / No Device)

QUALITY OF LIFE

Dead Go Boom - Trophies tick down 5 secs with loud audio cue and are throwable by anyone.
Contestant Characters increased from 6 to 9
Ability to Invite Teammates into the Practice Range

Team Loadouts viewable by button press in scoreboard menu
Enemy Specializations viewable in scoreboard menu
Enemy Class viewable in scoreboard while they are dead

Color Wheel for Cosmetics (primary, secondary, and accent)

alpine jungle
woeful arch
# woeful arch Maxed battle pass. Maxed account level. Got almost all Steam achievements (excep...

Last suggestion:

  • "Press Room": for those of us who spend extra time in our lobbies making our characters and their weapons look great or funny, and bind special emotes/sounds/etc. to make the characters look cohesive, it'd be fun to have a map where the purpose is simply to engage in wholesome ways with other players. On such a map, we could spam our emotes/sounds, show off our clothes, destroy the environment with our weapons, spam the healing beam on random players, or set up traps made of various gadgets at random corners of the map, and watch other players walk into them. We could "ask to duel" other players if some players want to go 1v1, while other players could cheer on the fight or just cheer on other players they stop by, spamming the "hello" emote for instance or using the sprays against walls (I legit never used those in a game). This map could be accessible from the main "play" menu or be a "loading" map where queued players are sent while the matchmaking is trying to pick suitable teammates. The idea here is that, the game can't just be about last-second failures or wins with other random players - it could also have a social layer to it aided by the fun and great looking game cosmetics (Shop items + Career track rewards + Weapon Mastery track skins).
gaunt thunder
nocturne flare
#

Gib text chat

queen cloud
cunning cedar
solar oasis
#

AA is not necessary in games. If people can be come semi-professional CS players using controller, there's no reason for any console game to have AA.

fossil walrus
rocky verge
quick coyote
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Remove C4's on nuke or add mass significantly and rework recon this is literally all you have to do.

split topaz
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Me and friends love this game but we can’t all play together so we thought mabey you could add a mode like the practice arena but you can play with you friends or like quick cash but with 9 of your friends or mabey make a smaller map for 2 teams to go head to head like apex arena

woeful arch
nocturne flare
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text chat pls

solar oasis
# nocturne flare text chat pls

This. Add a text chat already. If people are easily offended they can opt in/out or mute players. It's really not that complicated. Sick and tired of not being able to comm with my teammates while dead because the devs are trying to mollycoddle the 1% of carebears that are petrified of 'toxicity'.

dusty moth
#

Game that works please

alpine jungle
clever surge
dark ginkgo
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Please also change the self damage for RPGs, doesnt make sense if RPG kills only me instead of both enemy and I

limpid juniper
#

If i knock someone off the map with an ability or otherwise, i should receive an elimination for it

sudden tangle
#

as a light main I literally can't find premades in lfg channel. is it a bug, maybe a feature? no, it's bad balance!

undone belfry
# fossil walrus It seems like the better players are still good with the new AA but the worse pl...

You mean its good that literally 60% of the playerbase on console (which are casuals) who rely on aim assist now have no chance against good people in a casual game?

Think about it. Bad players are getting decent with aim assist and have no chance without it. Good players are still good with and without aim assist. So which group is hurt the most? Yes the casual playerbase.

This is a casual game. And it lost all its casuality regarding meta and aim to casual people because pc competitive people were mad about aim assit.

The devs made a very big mistake here. They needed to nerf the pc aim assist and let the console aim assist as it is and make crossplay Plattform only - VERY EASY FIX!

Im still doing good after the aa changes. But my friends do not play anymore thus i solo queue as I dont have fun with randoms even with lfg options. And thats what's bothering me. Fortnite in the beginning was alot of fun. Why did it die out for new players and casuals for a time beeing? Well because a casual game tried to become competitive. Why did it came back? Because devs actually put effort in giving casuals a great experience with bots and same skilled lobbys. Also creative modes. Its not about winning anymore. People play games because they like the feeling of doing good or having fun experiences without sweating after a day of hard work. And if the biggest playerbase - the casuals arent doing good because of competitive changes for the whole game and not for just game modes or platforms only - they fall short and probably leave the game.

Im not saying that aim assist was flawless. It needed rework but this rework killed it for casuals and some fun weapons compared to the meta guns. Also aim assist in its current state doesn't work under 20 meters. There is no slowdown. So even more pain for casuals.

daring wolf
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please add custom games. Literally should have been in the game since release

nocturne flare
#

Text chat!

queen cloud
fossil walrus
# undone belfry You mean its good that literally 60% of the playerbase on console (which are cas...

If the people on console are playing against other console players then what's the issue? If your contention is that the average console player can no longer compete with the average mnk player then that's an issue with a crossplay toggle which was addressed.

It's a casual game sure but just because people are casuals doesn't mean that the skill gap should be shrunk too such a degree that people are getting beamed even in low skill lobbies. I don't see any good reason to have aim assist that strong at any level.

Do you think casuals don't enjoy getting better as well?

Also Fortnite literally just had the all time record for player count two months ago. What are you talking about "it sucks for casuals"? The whole purpose of zero build is to make it so that people don't need to spend days in creative just to keep up.

cunning cedar
smoky storm
# fossil walrus If the people on console are playing against other console players then what's t...

One of the things that casuals complain about most is that every lobby feels "sweaty". They don't realize every lobby feels sweaty because everyone has fucking aimbot. They want easy kills, but don't realize that if aim assist is tuned so they get easy kills, then everyone gets easy kills and it makes the game feel super sweaty for them.

You can't go 3 posts without running into cod players complaining about how sweaty their lobby is because they get beamed, not realizing it's because all the controller players have aimbot lmao

clever haven
#

The developers should be worried about their game, because the player count is continuously dropping.

For me, I have less desire to play this game because of the bad matchmaking, particularly in ranked. I like playing competitive FPS games and ranking up, but the matchmaking is so bad for solo players like me. I'm placed with teammates from all different ranks, and I have to play against 3 stacks which puts me at a disadvantage. As a solo player, it feels like the matchmaking works against you.

They need to pair stacks against other stacks or/and remove the ability to 3-stack in rank, and lower the matchmaking rank range in ranked.

If Embark doesn't fix this problem, then this game will continue to lose players. And I'll be one of those players who leaves the game. I'm sure most people who play The Finals are solo casual players, not stacks. So Embark will you decide to cater to the majority of the playerbase? Or cater to a small loud percentage of the player base who stack together in teams, particularly content creators such as streamers and Youtubers.

I haven't played in a week, and I may not come back until the matchmaking is fixed. I'm sure lots of other players feel the same way about the matchmaking.

undone belfry
# fossil walrus If the people on console are playing against other console players then what's t...

Man people like you.... just read what I wrote CAREFULLY!

you speak from an Perspective where you probably dont have family or work duties. You have all the time to get better playing 6 hours a day. Casual people dont have that time. Im talking for my friends here.

I said there is no issue in console vs console. What the heck? I said there's an issue with pc and console. Crossplay should never be between pc and console on shooters. Crossplay should by default be between console only. Look at hunt showdown for example. If that game was crosplay with pc then there would be literally 0 players playing it on console as it doesnt have aim assist. In that game there is a skill gap because of proper matchmaking and same chances for everyone as crossplay is console only. So you only encounter the same machines, 60fps, same resolution and same Inputs (except xim Users but thats another issue gloablly, not just console).

There is literally no skillgap in this game. like dude, Ranked is broken. New players are put together with the top 100s. For a skill gap there must be a functional ranked Mode in first place. And the casual modes also Mix new players with top 100 players. There's literally no matchmaking going on. It just puts people together. I created a new acc, played 1 turn to unlock tourney Mode and was put in a lobby with all MMMs with skins etc. And my teammates where all default skins. The other teams where coordianted. Where is the skill gap here? Test it for yourself...

And for fortnite.. I literally said it came BACK! Man just read CAREFULLY. There was a time where it was highly competitive with like no chance for casuals to even get a win. Now it's all good due to New modes and changes dressed for casuals as I said previously! Read carefully man... this community... so draining.

@misty rock its one aspect of skill gap. When the foundament is broken, how will you advance or measure your skill?

solar oasis
#

Skill gap is the skill difference between yourself and other players. What he's saying makes sense. He's asking how can you possibly say there's a skill gap in this game when there's no proper ranked system to evaluate/measure player's actual skill difference. Really seems like you're trying to deliberately mis-interpret or misunderstand what he's saying for a 'gotcha' moment.

manic aspen
fossil walrus
# undone belfry Man people like you.... just read what I wrote CAREFULLY! you speak from an Per...

I read what you wrote. Casuals don't care about being the best so why you do pretend like they do or use them as an example of why AA needs to be increased? If all you want to do is play every now in then, why are you comparing yourself to the top of the ladder?

You don't need to play 6 hours a day to play a game. Just don't expect to be the best. Idk why that's a controversial thing but people nowadays want everything given to them. Main character syndrome or something.

@.walk.#0000 gave the reason why casuals don't have as much fun as they should. They blame streamers for pub stomping when the reality is that they are rarely in their games. The mechanics have been overtuned to such a degree that every match feels sweaty because you don't need to be any good to be oppressive in so many games nowadays.

So casuals have to try extra hard just to do decent and "sweats" have to try even harder than that to differentiate themselves from the casuals. The very mechanics that you are trying to stan are making things worse for everyone.

lavish shard
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Remove this fuckinnnng stungun

alpine jungle
cold pilot
red cargo
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undone belfry
# fossil walrus I read what you wrote. Casuals don't care about being the best so why you do pre...

You still dont understand... People in this game aren't put in lobbys with the same skill.. casuals don't want to be the best and I never compared myself with the top 100? Wtf dude. I said new players in this game can face top 100 players in matchmaking - casual and ranked!.. and that is not ok. Even in the ranked gamemodes your rank doesn't mean a thing here.

Casuals don't want to be the best yes. But they want to have FUN! how can a casual have fun when a shroud is in the same lobby with 30+ kills and he can't even play the objective because 1 teams is from the top 100 pool. You dont understand the root issue. You just want to argue and put stuff out to get a "gotcha" moment like Setanta said to the other guy...

I'm not complaining for myself as I said. I'm complaining for the casual part of this community. And for my friends who left.

@cunning cedar bro I'm talking about CONSOLE!!! Dont argue from the opossite system. Wtf are you even trying to say? If a pc player looses to a console Player (not controller on pc, a real console player with 60fps etc.) Then it's the skill issue of the pc player. He has all the movement, aim and hardware power and framerate/input lag to outplay the thumb player... anyway I'm only talking about the console side. I don't care about pc players as the devs already hear you out...

@keen steppe you do realize that even pro players see an issue with matchmaking right? So many good players (shroud included) say that they dont like the current matchmaking as they 80% of the time pubstomb others...
It's OK to face good players now and then. But not as frequently as it is currently - In casual or bronze ranked!

And wtf what kind of software are you taking about? And wtf are you talking about ai? Where do you guys pull out random stuff like that... if you try to be argumentative use something more logical and fitting please...

cunning cedar
keen steppe
# undone belfry You still dont understand... People in this game aren't put in lobbys with the s...

Why wouldn't it be ok for casuals to face top 100 players. You realize that there are so much more average aka causals than players on the skill lvl of top 100. That's why it's called average. Nothing is wrong with facing some gaming god every now and then. It's healthy. It forces you to see your own limits, broaden your horizon on what can be achieved and maybe even inspire you to strive towards that skill. If you loose your marbles over occasionally getting stomped by good players then maybe work on your mindset instead of wanting software to get you into an even playing field

What will be next. AI giving you the best possible strategy for each interaction with an enemy team in game because players with higher iq/problemsolving skills/tactical knowledge can make better decision in the heat of the moment than casuals? What??

brave copper
# solar oasis Skill gap is the skill difference between yourself and other players. What he's ...

No, this was the correct meaning of "skill gap."

A high skill gap means your individual skill highly affects your performance. A low skill gap means your individual skill has a minute effect on your performance.

Separating people by rank is skill rating.

I understand that there's a gap between a bronze player's skill and a t500 player's skill, but thats just not what the term "skill gap" refers to.

shell lotus
# quick coyote U only think about what u want and not about what is good for the community . YO...

You have no clue what your talking about, we are not speaking for our selves, gaming has moved to smart phones and you are able to connect kbm and controller so your statement is just false and ignorant, gaming should be moving towards adding input for people who need different inputs your the one who is being selfish in your odd way of thinking, it makes it fair for every one, we are even asking for input based match making, your negative in this topic for no reason and your uneducated on the matter, we have the right to complain about something that can be added in just like your complaints about buffs and nerfs and think twice before buying a console? Are you classist or something? Don’t you think we would get a pc if we had the funds? Like come on man use your brain not everyone is. Able to afford pc gaming and a lot of people can barley afford to console game, I want to be able to play with my pc friends and be able to compete with their lobbies but your a hater for no reason, I can’t just turn off cross play cuz I have tons of friends on pc so your suggestion is just invalid, our cause it to make it more inclusive and eliminate unfairness due to input base factors

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

rapid moss
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Once more requesting a revert on the .357 Revolver fall off damage.

fossil walrus
# undone belfry You still dont understand... People in this game aren't put in lobbys with the s...

Yes ranked is messed up. What does that have to do with my original comment about maybe AA being nerfed is a good thing? Remember that was the comment you wrote that long reply to. You tell me that I just want to argue when I was talking about AA. You can stop replying at any time.

To anyone else this is what I'm talking about. Let's say the old aim assist makes it so that the average player hits 60% of their shots in an engagement. That means you have to be above that in order to do well or better than average. If you can't then you have to get better with game sense and positioning which requires playing more than normal.

How does that "player with a job, family and responsibilities" make up the time to get better at that just to better than average? Isn't it easier if the lowest level of players are hitting less shots for that casual to meet a lower requirement?

That's what I mean about overtuned AA not really helping anyone. Sure you get some cheap kills here and there but did you enjoy yourself? I'm not so sure.

nocturne flare
solar oasis
# brave copper No, this was the correct meaning of "skill gap." > A high skill gap means your ...

No. Skill rating is the number/equation/algorithm used to estimate a players skill gap from other players. The gap IS the difference in skill, and MMR/ELO is a number attributed to players to try to estimate their skill level or gap compared to other players, and match them accordingly. The more even the numbers, the tighter the gap. If you're 1500 ELO playing vs other 1500 ELO players then there should, in theory anyway, be a non-existant gap. If you're 2k elo playing against 1k elo players you should also lose way more points for losing than you should gain for winning, because you're playing against people who are orders of magnitude lower skilled then you. I.E there is a BIGGER GAP.

Regardless, even if the way you described it was correct (it's not) it's a distinction without a difference, and it still doesn't detract from the original commenters point.

Anyway, I think all AA should be removed and just let console players be vs console players only. AA is not necessary in games anymore. People are becoming better than MNK players at CS while using controller Gyro/analogue sticks. AA is an archaic 'solution' to a problem that never really existed. In no other game genre do you get handheld like you do in shooter games on consoles, especially not to this degree. If I'm tiny and play basketball, are the NBA going to give me a jetpack to compete with the taller players? If I want to play baseball but only have one arm are they going to give me a bionic prosthetic that takes all my shots for me perfectly? No. Of course not. If I suck balls at chess I don't get told by a computer what moves I need to make to win, I just play against other bad players, as it should be.

Cross-play is a problem that will never be solved because controllers will always be at a disadvantage against good MNK players, and MNK players will always be disadvantaged vs controller aim assist, not to mention all the REWASD abusers. Cross-play should just die already, it's fucking awful.

proud ocean
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I’ve the solution! ALFBMM ! Age Lifestyle Family Based matchmaking! You only play with people around your age who have similar work life balance as you and similar family situations!

clever surge
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With Aim Assist your are effectively flattening the skill curve. The reason why its bad is that to some extent your skill can overtake your brainless actions in the game, thus making up for not understanding the core gameplay. Such things dont matter in games like Battlefield, because there never was any matchmaking to begin with.

So Aim assist going up with that logic, completely destroys the ranked system, making it unrepairable. You will always get bronze and silver players in diamond games, because they know how to use Aim assist properly, but just dont have any experience with the game.

I dont know who the hell really thinks, that this is not the issue, but at this point I dont really care. It is just coping mechanism at this point.

You need to face reality people, Aim assist is bad for ranking system, and completely destroys the meaning of "skill" in the game. This is a fact, get used to it.

bronze pumice
brave plover
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In case you're wondering why the FCAR wasn't really nerfed... because there's no difference from 26 to 25, the damage can be perfectly divided by 150/250/350, meaning the same number of bullets are needed to kill you than before the nerf...

brave copper
# solar oasis No. Skill *rating* is the number/equation/algorithm used to estimate a players s...

Your first sentence and a half are actually exactly what I said in different words. We're agreeing there.

The point is aim assist lowers skill gap by bringing up the bottom of aim. And imo not in a good or fun way for anyone.

Some weapons have a high skill gap factor like the R357 because you're punished hard for missing a shot. If there were an all r357 game mode, it would be a game more influenced by skill gap than anything we have rn in the finals.

I agree ranked is borked. Proper matching, based on ranked, also lowers the gap between your skill and the skill of your opponents. This is how you make a game with a high skill ceiling (or greater potential skill gap) fair for casuals.

I think we agree and you're just misreading a lot of stuff you're replying to...

shell lotus
# solar oasis No. Skill *rating* is the number/equation/algorithm used to estimate a players s...

The problem can literally be solved with input based matchmaking 😙😙

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

undone belfry
# bronze pumice if aim assist is so op then surely mnk support for consoles should be no issue t...

The thing is. So many people want to play on m&k on console... but noone asks why? Well because we are put in pc lobbys. And without proper aim assist you cannot compete against m&k players when you play on console (60fps, input lag etc.)... I see why so many players now want it. They see no chance against Pc players.

If crossplay would be console only I would highly disagree with m&k beeing Implemented as long as it is console only. If you plug in m&k and are put in pc lobbys then it would be just fine.

The current state for console is - either with or without m&k your play with pc lobbys. So it doesn't really matter. But they won't implement it as the devs only hear out pc people. They never made a change that was really addressing console only issues.

@brave copper then tell me - and this is not ranting but serious asking - how can a console revolver Player with broken/less aim assit and no slowdown win against a m&k Revolver player? Not from a pc or console perspective, just inputs. 1 thumb against a wrist and hand with micro movements.

worn oyster
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Hire me and I will deadass fix your game in a week. This is not a joke

soft gorge
nocturne flare
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Text chat! !

sonic flare
fossil walrus
# solar oasis No. Skill *rating* is the number/equation/algorithm used to estimate a players s...

I agree with this. Not just because I'm a gyro advocate who disliked the concept of AA when I played on console. It's also because of something that @clever surge touched on. You're making it so that people aren't really getting better mentally because they don't have to. The standards are raised so much that they can get kills without understanding the game. So when that is dialed back you're left with a player that doesn't really know what to do.

@bronze pumice No because no matter what there's always a contingent of console players that will shoot the idea down even if they aren't affected. You see this when gyro support is brought up. "I used it for 15 minutes 20 years ago and I think it sucks". Mnk support should be basic for every crossplay game.

ebon elbow
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Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

brave copper
# undone belfry The thing is. So many people want to play on m&k on console... but noone asks wh...

You answered your own question twice in the first 2 paragraphs. Advocate for opting out of crossplay, or input based matchmaking. Don't advocate for AA.... especially not super OP, snapping on to invis and offscreen players AA...

Your basically saying you want to bring your monster-truck into an F1 race. Oh, and since your not aerodynamic, you get to have a better engine. Oh, and since you'll roll turning at high speeds, lets make the track a straight line only.... No, like you just need your own league and you need to stay there.

severe violet
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can you please fix error code tfge0000. i have tryed everything

reef shale
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idk if anyone's said it yet but being able to make a custom outfit would be greatly appreciated

solar oasis
rapid ember
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Matchmaking has improved in terms of what rank my team mates are, no more bronze 1 players in high gold.,which is nice.
However, i'm now getting matched against teams of top 100 Diamond players.
With one hand they Giveth, with the other, they taketh 😄

quick coyote
undone belfry
# brave copper You answered your own question twice in the first 2 paragraphs. Advocate for opt...

Wtf bro. You people... Im literally speechless. It was rhetorical!! It was intended! Hahaha like are you for real?

And you still did not awnser the question about revolver and console vs pc? I ask myself why? Well because we both know the awnser. But you are on pc and beeing ignorant now. You just chat like the vudu guy, try to have a "gotcha" moment. This is not my Intend. I'm not here to push your ego. I just want to make things clear. But you and some others just blindly rant over the stuff we console players want to have for CONSOLE ONLY!!

Like why the hell are you even ranting? I'm not saying anything about pc or that we should change aim assist on pc... why are you and some others talking and denying stuff about consoles where you guys play on pc? Like I dont understand you guys.. what's your goal?

I have a clear one. Having a voice for my console audience. Especially casuals.

But what's yours? You aren't on console anyway? Why do you disagree or rant over console only stuff? You and some others were never asked.

@sonic flare with you saying that you supporting m&k on console because then console players having a 1:1 experience against pc players just says that controller is worse. Even with aa.
Inv me if you are in console. I want to see you play. If not you are just as bad as the other guys as you say stuff about console without knowing a damn thing because you are on pc

As I thought. You just clown emote because you are on pc... what a kid..

quick coyote
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Needed QLA changes/features:

-You should be able to name your contestant slots.
-Be able to turn off the Melee Weapon Aim Assist.
-Have a better crosshair customization.
-Make it so the Mouse Look Sensitivity affects more, because currently it barely changes anything the sensitivity.
-Be able to promote party members to leader.
-In friend list, show if friends are currently in a match or not.

olive rose
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Hello guys, I a have question. What is the different between mouse zoom sen multiplier and scoped zoom sen multiplier ? ?

nocturne flare
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Text chat

quick coyote
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People are waiting your next game Embark.
Maybe they will give game bad review.....😭

soft gorge
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Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

sonic flare
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Im sick of hearing this whole AA thing in the comments like AA is too weak, you just can’t aim for shit and definitely ass at the game.

I will support the idea m&k input only so that way you can play with pc players on a 1:1 scale

And maybe a stim for light class or regen buff

bronze pumice
ebon elbow
quick coyote
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Everytime I have fun, I get nuked. They need to remove NUKES from this game ffs. What is so hard to understand that a cheap kill and wall hacks is not a good shooter mechanic

swift surge
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nuke em back lol

fossil walrus
# brave copper You answered your own question twice in the first 2 paragraphs. Advocate for opt...

They doesn't understand the difference between the matchmaking and the aim assist argument. That's why they keep making these ridiculous responses and leaving question marks and face palms on posts. If everyone is playing with who they should play with then what is the issue?

There shouldn't be one and everyone should have more fun not getting beamed in every lobby they are in. I'm sure the full time person also doesn't want to be ripped in their lower level lobby either. But yeah everyone but them is "arguing just to argue"

brave copper
# undone belfry Wtf bro. You people... Im literally speechless. It was rhetorical!! It was inten...

I did answer you and I pointed out that you answered yourself.

Answer:

Advocate for opting out of crossplay, or input based matchmaking.

Also you said multiple times that I'm ranting, but look at my messages, then look at yours... I'm ranting?? Doing my best to keep everything sweet, simple, and direct.

Brother, please relax, you're clearly getting upset. I want you to have a fair and fun experience. For you, I think that means playing against people of your same input method only, and against people with a similar skill rating/ rank. If the game doesn't give you the setting and game modes necessary to have that, it should.

quick coyote
# ebon elbow Then why argue?

Cause you people won’t stop crying about it . They removed it . Deal with it . I’m sick of seeing all the bot spamming you and your friends are doing on here . If you guys are playing “CASUAL” like you guys claim . Don’t care about it . Just play for “FUN”. Stop spamming discord every 15 mins . Maybe if yall had a Job instead of spamming here . You could afford a PC 💀. Honestly embark is different . They listen to the community unlike other games . You people are just taking advantage of that . Cause you’re just bad at the game and want “Special amenities” so that you & your friends with skill issues can play with others . Imagine having a acc named @shell lotus 🤡 COPE . DEAL WITH IT . STOP YAPPING . Hope that makes it clear enough.

clever surge
# bronze pumice if aim assist is so op then surely mnk support for consoles should be no issue t...

Well, to be completely honest, the whole reason why we are having such discussion, is not because someone cares that MnK makes appearance in Console lobbies or not. I dont care, and most of people when not made aware that such things exist, dont care too about it. The problem occurred when MnK players started to abuse AA in their game, making out of themselves pro player in one day. This is what created the whole debate "why and how it should be in The Finals".

AA is not OP by definition. It was created to bring in the natural gap of using different control methods. It should be as hard hitting headshots with MnK as it is with controler.

My whole argument was about AA unnaturally decreasing skill gap between different players using different peripherals. In a place in which you are not aware of who used what, whole ranking system is just different colours in your main menu Leauge settings. You will get matches in which you have diamond player that sits in one place completely oblivious of what is going on, and visibly lost in a ranked game, and you can have absolute competitive beast, that just steamrolls through lobby, but loses 1v1 because there is just too much players with "shroud like" aim. And whats the most funny thing here, there is no one to blame in such situations.

It just confuses people, creating toxic community (like we can see today here). No transparency, encourages feelings of being betrayed by the devs, every match can be 100% different in difficulty, even though you are playing ranked ladder game, which is ranked because it has correctly placed people by their skill in the game. Thats by definition.

And yet, all games are completely random, and everyone is pissed off. This whole situation can't be fixed, unless we as a players can understand what in the eyes of the devs "Skill" means in The Finals. Right now its completely fucked up, all over the place, and people waste their time here trying to address effects, rather than reasons.

shell lotus
# brave copper I did answer you and I pointed out that you answered yourself. **Answer:** > ...

The problem is that the game is cross plat, which means can play with my pc friends, if I’m in the same lobbies as them i should be able to input a mnk, i want to be able to compete with my pc friends

@._.mikey08#0000 we’re are allowed to ask for something that should be implemented in the game just like people are allowed to ask for the revolver nerf to be rolled back like, if you go by your logic nobody should complain about what the devs do when they buff or nerf certain things “cuz they added it and or took it out” you are just negative, you can not care ab our cause but commenting on something that doesn’t affect you is just dumb, a lot of yall pc players stick y’all’s noses in problems that don’t concern you

spiral merlin
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MNK ON CONSOLE IS NEEDED PLS JUST PUT US IN PC LOBBIES PLS

nocturne flare
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Txt chat!

solar oasis
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Done speaking with you since you're quite obviously blind and either can't understand what I'm saying or are deliberately misquoting what I'm saying. I never said skill gap equals MMR or ELO, I said, TWICE, that MMR/ELO is the number attributed to a player to ESTIMATE their skill gap. Just like how MPH is the attribute given to cars to gauge their speed, ELO/MMR is the number used to gauge a player's skill, or SKILL GAP.

What has basically happened here is:
I said ELO/MMR is given to attempt to indicate a players skill level/skill gap
You responded with
NO THATS WHAT A SKILL RATING IS

You're agreeing with literally exactly what I have said, while saying I'm wrong, then repeating what I have just said. I am genuinely perplexed, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

@shell lotus yeah I actually agree with you, when I say cross-play I don't mean console & PC I mean input crossplay. MNK on console should be queued with MNK on PC. Controller on PC should be matched with Controller on console. I've always thought this. It's a more elegant solution than an aim assist so egregious that if it was used on CS it would trigger a VAC ban. Controller shouldn't have to play against mouse without some sort of help, and MNK shouldn't have to play against aim assist doing 70% of the work for the player. Especially when aim assist is completely unnecessary and people are playing PC shooters and hanging with MNK users just fine using gyro controls.

I really don't see why console FPS shouldn't just have native KBM support, many games already had it and still have it. AFAIK Fortnite even still has native KBM support on PS4 at least it did when I had a PS4 briefly.

TL;DR:
Controller vs MNK will never ever be balanced. As such all cross-play should be grouped by input and not by platform. Give MNK access to console players, or just dump cross-play alltogether IMO.

long vector
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Pls have duos

soft gorge
woven briar
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Y’all fighting for mnk on console has raised my hope from 1% to 3% that it’ll return. Thanks guys. Hopefully the devs will hear our complaints so I can go back to giving them my money.

sonic flare
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@undone belfry Rapidshot#8912 Xbox 🥱 if you talk trash better back it up just saying

severe linden
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Stop putting us in games that are close to ending. 4th game in a row. Love it.

brave copper
# shell lotus The problem is that the game is cross plat, which means can play with my pc fri...

Friend, that's fine. I don't have an issue with console peeps having different input options. I think at that point there should be some input based matchmaking to keep it fair for controller peeps (which I have said already).

If you party up with PC friends and play in PC lobbies, the standard will be MnK. So you should be able to use MnK to have a fair shot. I'm for that. This is in-line with the concept of input based matchmaking.

I'm not for players coming in with a controller then basically getting cheats (the previous version of AA for the finals) to help out because they opted into using a crappy input method.

gentle adder
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Thinking that controller has any advantage over MnK is delusional. We get aim assist cuz yall can use your whole fucking arm to aim. Someone got butthurt at the truth 🤣🤣

blissful bridge
#

Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox

Revolver:
-Revert Range Nerf from 1.5.5 Patch

Light Class:
-Faster Regen Time
-Add Teamplay Health/Shield Bomb akin to the Vanish Bomb
-Fix Hit-Reg issues with M-11 and XP-54 (bullets don't register consistently)

Grapple and Evasive Dash:
-Reduce Cooldown Time

Thermal Vision:
-Changed to Togglable (Quick Use / No Device)

Mode Rule Variations:
There are map variations and it would be cool to see rule variations in casual modes.

QUICK-CASH
"Over-Time Rule"
During this match the timer will stop while the Cashout is being stolen.

"Cashbox Money Loss"
During this match the Cashbox will lose value the longer it stays in the field.

BANK-IT / SOLO BANK-IT
"Vanishing Coins"
During this match dropped Coins will disappear after 5-15 seconds

"No Vaults"
During this match Coins will only drop from eliminated Contestants.

QUALITY OF LIFE

Dead Go Boom - Trophies tick down 5 secs with loud audio cue and are throwable by anyone.
Contestant Characters increased from 6 to 9
Ability to Invite Teammates into the Practice Range

Team Loadouts viewable by button press in scoreboard menu
Enemy Specializations viewable in scoreboard menu
Enemy Class viewable in scoreboard while they are dead

Color Wheel for Cosmetics (primary, secondary, and accent)

solar oasis
# woven briar Y’all fighting for mnk on console has raised my hope from 1% to 3% that it’ll re...

I haven't paid a penny and won't until there's a realistic effort to combat cheating, and a real ranked mode. The game is fun but I can already see it fading into obscurity as 'fun flavour of the month #213'.

'skill gap = difference between skill floor and skill ceiling of game. it is absolute, dictated by the game/gameplay mechanics themselves, and is quantifiable outside of any ranked system, mmr/elo or otherwise.'

All 'skill gaps' need to be quantified with some sort of rating. That's my point. I could be the best surfer in the world in CS but that doesn't translate into me being a better CS player. Anyone can be better than any other player at X, Y or Z mechanic, but what matters is the ELO they end up at. You say there's quantifiable ways to prove that somebody is a better player outside of MMR or ELO, but there's not. Having a higher K/D is irrelevant because there's no estimation.

In CS for example, I could have better tracking, better flicks, better than 99% of other players in these mechanics, and still be a low-MMR or low-skill player because I completely lack in other areas. In Quake you could have god-tier movement and still suck balls at tracking.

An individual player's skill is an amalgamation of all the different mechanics/knowledge that the game requires, some may be better at some things than others. The only true measure of someones skill is how often they win. It's not perfect and can be abused, but it is literally the only way to gauge someone's actual skill at the game. I could be dropping 50 bombs every match in the finals but if I keep losing because of poor decision making then I'm not that great a player no matter how mechanically skilled I may be at aiming/tracking/recoil control.

oh there you go again. "imma use this word that everyone knows means one thing, but pretend that it means something completely different".

No, clown, I was talking about inputs the entire comment, I just followed up to clarify what I (obviously) meant.

smoky storm
soft gorge
solid narwhal
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Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

Chill yall we fighting for console, not for a pc player's opinion.

nocturne flare
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fossil walrus
# gentle adder Thinking that controller has any advantage over MnK is delusional. We get aim as...

We don't think that sticks have an advantage over mnk. The aim assist in some games is the advantage. Those games are Apex, COD and Halo. The statistics back up that advantage.

Also gyro allows you to "use your whole arm to aim" as well but console players actively argue against it for some strange reason and don't use it in games like COD and Fortnite that have excellent implementations of it.

Maybe giving up AA is still too much of a drawback for that whole arm. Getting good with raw input isn't easy.

solemn widget
sudden tangle
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I thought patch 1.5.5 made matchmaking stricter. Golds are still being matched with top 60.. TOP 60!!!! Players. <@&1012034066876473384> WHAT?

subtle niche
hardy mirage
# gentle adder Thinking that controller has any advantage over MnK is delusional. We get aim as...

it is inherently harder to be more precise on a thumbstick than it is on a mouse. its also more intuitive for casuals to aim better on a mouse. aim assist is very much needed but unfortunately its over tuned in a lot of games to make the game feel more 'fun' for the massive casual console audience at the cost of the relatively small pc audience

just allow kbm on console and give us input based matchmaking, its that simple

shell lotus
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in, KEEP FIGHTING WE WILL BE HEARD!!!!

ancient hare
upper citrus
fossil walrus
# solemn widget As a kbm player there is no point in using gyro in cod because of the aim assist...

Oh I completely agree. That shows how busted it really is. People would turn down being able to flick and have full range of motion because AA is too good. That's really my point. That the whole arm thing is just a buzz term that people use to ignore the fact that they wouldn't give up AA even if they had a better choice.

The only option long term is to make better options standard and lower the assistance.

quick coyote
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I hope the nuke kills this game before ppl learn a lesson

ebon peak
quick coyote
# ebon peak Please add MnK support on console

Or stop being an irrational consumer and wasting thousands of dollars on console equipment per year when you could just save for a pc and get a mouse and keyboard. Crazy thought, I know. Console plebs big brain.

tame notch
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There shouldn’t be a penalty for deciding to leave a ranked match where I only start the game with 1 teammate instead of 2.

ancient hare
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I hate to break it to ya'll but if you're on MnK - the most versatile and capable input method with the highest skill ceiling - and losing your 1's to xbox dads on controller, it's probably not just an AA problem.

And besides: the best Finals players are primarily MnK - despite the fact that most people playing this game are using controller due to consoles. If controller is so OP then switch. If it makes it so easy to play better then why not?

solar oasis
# ancient hare I hate to break it to ya'll but if you're on MnK - the most versatile and capabl...

Wrong, it's absolutely a problem, as someone who has played both inputs.

If you could put a number on skill, a player who is 7/10 on KBM will lose to a player who is 5 or 6 out of 10 on controller purely beacause most of the aiming work is being done for them by the game/controller. This isn't fair no matter what amount of mental gymnastics you do. Players with controllers an no aim assist are reaching the highest levels of CS without turning Pro. What's your excuse? Why do you 'NEED' the game to play itself for you? Ego problem or what?

solemn widget
# ancient hare I hate to break it to ya'll but if you're on MnK - the most versatile and capabl...

The aa in this game is not op anymore. In games like apex and cod people who played on mnk for 6 or 7 years switched to controller because of aa.

Imperial Hal in apex switched to controller after being a pro on mnk and won a big tournament.

In cod all but 5 or 6 ppl in the top 250 are all controller.

The point is if you want to be better than an average controller player you have to be way above average.

Also a lot of ppl did switch to controller while it was op

quick coyote
# ancient hare I hate to break it to ya'll but if you're on MnK - the most versatile and capabl...

AA was definitely a problem before. I don't mind it too much now. People would switch to controllers and massively increase their kills and shots hit. Old AA was wayyyy too strong. In a lot of other games it is as well. In no world should switching input methods allow me to never miss.

As a personal example.
I made my friends who rarely use controllers, unlike me who's used to mixing input methods, play the finals with controllers. Once they got used to it they want from 9 or 10 kills a game, to 17+. When I had to switch to controller sometimes (head/eyesight issues) my "skill" would massively improve. I would literally just snap aim an FCAR and land all my shots.

nocturne flare
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Text chat pls!

sinful gazelle
# nocturne flare Text chat pls!

Maybe one day my friend.

Text chat, Killcam, history match (to check all players rank), profile (can check people profile on social/friends), and idk what else. We just gotta wait for all of those things. All quality of life updates

smoky storm
# soft gorge I really wanted you guys to go to the Battlefield server and ask for it as well,...

It's criminal that mnk is supported on consoles, but devs choose not to implement it.

Combined with input based matchmaking it literally solves a huge problem that has been plaguing fps games since crossplay became a thing.

Latest generation consoles are powerful enough so that mnk is perfectly playable on them now. Most fps titles support up to 120 fps which is better than most avg pc users.

drifting pawn
#

knees and elbow are totally fukt

to the guy below: well, when it comes time to upgrade to the next consoles, your previous hardware is pretty worthless, whereas you can get back hundreds for your PC hardware, all while also being able to play PC games dating back to PC gaming's inception. so in the long term, PC hardware ends up costing you about the same, if not cheaper since some things suddenly spike in value like GPUs. A GPU alone is worth more than a whole ass PS4 system

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woven briar
# quick coyote Or stop being an irrational consumer and wasting thousands of dollars on console...

If console equipment cost 1000s we would’ve already gotten a damn PC. 😂😂😂 got my wife and I two series s, total- 500. I haven’t checked in awhile but last I saw, that would get me a pc with a 10 series video card. So the minimum specs required to play this game. With I’m sure frame drops well below 60 at high intensity moments. Sorry bud. But your point isn’t valid. Just jaded and self entitled.

I can promise you @drifting pawn , I have an old pc. And there isn’t anything that would be worth any kind of money other than scrap change. PC life is sweet AF. But it is costly and I ain’t got that kind of money raising and taking care of a family. Guess I should’ve stayed single and miserable to play games for the rest of my life. 😂😂😂

vernal girder
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Going up against a <1000 top player (envius) right now in what was supposed to be a silver/gold lobby. Envius playing as a medium has 25 kills and his medium teammate has 16. They took every single cashout - basically the same as playing against hackers.

I like this game a lot but right now this feels like the kind of stuff that happens as a game dies. I should never be playing against this player in ranked tournament. Medium meta and bad matchmaking are going to drive a bunch of us off this week.

silk pumice
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everything is awesome apart from 2 things:

  • sometimes barrels drop on the floor like a limp noodle despite left click throwing
  • getting ranked vs top 10k's despite being 2x silver and a bronze
fair osprey
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It's been a few updates since I last suggested this but I still believe that losers of the tournament can spectate the remaining rounds in a tournament. It would be really cool to watch games too

sharp flower
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One small change that would make combat more fluid:
Thrown utility (grenades, smoke, mines) could be pulled out a bit quicker- they just feel a bit clunky, limiting in fight options

fossil walrus
subtle niche
upper citrus
charred fiber
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any solid way to fix TFLA0002 ? Try all off the methods I can think but still no luck

solar oasis
# vernal girder Going up against a <1000 top player (envius) right now in what was supposed to b...

Yep, the game sucks balls atm for ranked play. I was going to persevere just to get the diamond skin as I've solo queued my way to basically platinum, at most I have one friend play with me some days, but it's just not worth it. At all. It sucks that they're keeping the nicest skin locked behind a rank that is unattainable to most people who solo queue because we're stuck babysitting literal disabled/brand new players all day. Not everybody has 2 sweaty friends they can spam queue with all day.

ancient hare
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im a mNK🖱️⌨️ 💪 😎🆒gamer n one time I switch to controlr🎮🤮 and get 69 kills every game 🏆🏆🏆without evin trying 🥱and i became so good that everyone let me kiss their wives haha 💏😏😏 (nice)
I switchd back tho cuz embark send me a letter saying 🤚🚫pls stop ur too epic! 🤯🤯🤯🤯!!!

quick coyote
# woven briar If console equipment cost 1000s we would’ve already gotten a damn PC. 😂😂😂 got...

Okay I'm being racist against console players again.

My old PC lasted 3 console generations (4, I guess, because of Nintendo?) which was more cost effective over buying 2 or 3 consoles. My old PC was around 500 or 600 (I think, maybe cheaper because I build mine), and I didn't have to buy it again every year or so because of a new one coming out and outclassing it.

My current one is only slightly more costly and won't have to be updated for at least 10 years, and no games will be exclusive to a higher tier PC because it's "old".

And unlike consoles, if my PC needs an upgrade I could simply swap a part or two out. Saves much more in the long run and I can do/play much more than an Xbox.

smoky gust
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damn, do you run out of arguments that quickly?

vernal girder
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To review:

  1. Ranked matchmaking is still abominable, just played against a top 1000 player who destroyed everyone else in a supposedly silver/gold lobby. Perhaps a symptom of plummeting player counts.
  2. Mediums are still grotesquely overrepresented in lobbies, due to the failure of the last patch to adequately address Recon, Defib, FCAR. At this point between the heavy/light nerfs and the milquetoast medium "nerfs" it seems the devs are coddling mediums and terrified they'll leave when brought back into alignment with the rest of the classes.
  3. This last patch wasn't nearly confident enough, and the things it was supposed to fix are still a problem - I suspect the next patch will also be a half-measure at which point the spiral will really start.
manic aspen
tough topaz
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bring back mouse and keyboard support on consoles please!

shell lotus
# quick coyote Or stop being an irrational consumer and wasting thousands of dollars on console...

At this point either your being willing ignorant, or just classist to less fortunate gamers, pc cost way more upfront to use and lots of people don’t have the money to pay 2-3k upfront

@quick coyote while yes in the long run pc can be cheaper but upfront it cost to much for a lot of people to get into

THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION WOULD BE TO JUST ADD KBM SUPPORT ON GAMES THATS CROSS PLAT, you pc players should honestly have no say in this matter cuz it doesn’t not concern yall, it doesn’t effect yall at all, so let us complain ab what would help us and yall complain ab whatever effect yall, quit sticking your noses in problems that don’t concern yall, think that the world revolves around yall

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in, KEEP FIGHT YALL WE WILL BE HEARD!!!!!!!

@fossil walrus most of who have replied on the matter has said just get a pc as a pc player or straight up said no to the matter when they are a pc player, I’m not saying all but if the shoe fits it fits, and for a good pc that can run most triple a games yes you do, the prices of parts are crazy

bleak coral
fossil walrus
terse inlet
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Didn't they remove MNK for console specifically because it always toggled aim assist? (Keyboard and Mouse for console was removed in patch 1.5)

lusty grotto
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The best they can do is ensure that the class cannot be repeated.

nocturne flare
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Gib text chat

median path
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honestly this game will run out of steam soon. My friends and I have unlocked everything in the game and are finding it hard to convince our selves to keep playing. I believe new content should be a priority. My friends and I have cooked up some half baked ideas for various different weapons set for a medieval theme.

We believe that Heavy should have a second option for melee players rather than just the sledge hammer. One with more range that you have to be more precise with but rewards you with more damage, A weapon that doesn't have the all mighty building destruction of the hammer. We thought a spear could be an interesting weapon. With a similar alternate fire to the sword. It would attack quicker and deal more damage with its right click than the hammer but would sacrifice its destructive abilities.

With the recent range nerfs on the revolver we believed that there us now a niche to fill for the medium class in its long-ranged combat. to fit with the theme we thought that a theme appropriate weapon could be a long bow. A slow firing weapon that would deal massive damage on headshot, certainly enough to insta-kill a light. But with its draw back time could leave you vulnerable to class range engagements. It could have a secondary fire where it fires 3 low power arrows at a time, in a wider range. It would obviously have the same projectile mechanics that the throwing knives do so that the weapon isn't an absurdly long range headshot machine.

Light could also jump in on the fun and have a bow theme weapon as well. One that could work as a semi-auto alternative to the sniper. A lower magnification scope and projectiles could make this weapon more bearable to deal with. We thought a cross bow could work well in this niche. maybe it has 6 shots or something. A sniper based weapon that's not unusable at close range. That and the fact that its a lot quieter makes it a great pair with a lurky light build.

quick coyote
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increase light health to 175 so we can survive an extra fcar shot 😭

graceful lion
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thoughts on current state of the game:

  • guard turret still has too much hp
  • plz for the love of everything NERF GAS and also make it so that is doesnt go through walls etc (if possible)
  • plz rework the glassshaders cant even count the times anymore when i just run into a glass panel because i cant make it out
midnight lake
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you need to fix this reconnecting problem where you can't get back to the game only in the first two munites, wich is rediciolous cause there are many reasons that will take longer time to reconnect such as a problem with the internet or just the game it self keeps crashing ,what's even worse is that you get munis points up to 500 even if you were in the final round.

solid narwhal
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Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

proud ocean
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Please devs bring us more THE FINALS branded cosmetics that can be unlocked with careers levels. They’re amazing! Even better than the battlepass ones!

vernal girder
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If this next patch doesn't effectively knock Medium back into parity with the other two classes I think that'll be about it for The Finals.

Edit: You can "No" all you want, FCAR Medium Defib Recon still significantly overrpresented in Ranked lobbies. Boring AF to play, not fun to play against, and this last patch didn't do anything to address any of those issues. Instead it was like "here's a revolver nerf."

That 26>>25 dmg FCAR change was borderline insulting. Literally as close to no change in TTK as you can get. Hilarious they have a bunch of ideas on how to nerf revolver in MULTIPLE ways but the FCAR can't get a real adjustment.

Also, taking weeks to nerf Recon is laughable - it needed a range reduction two weeks ago, instead they're just milking the medium playerbase as long as possible.

ebon elbow
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

wheat anchor
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Feedback from my experience:

  1. Every lobby is medium and heavies. Lights need some love so they don't insta die to everything.
  2. Every single fight somone on my team gets 1 shot by a nuke still. Can't APS turret to block it so theres no counter to just getting 1 shot.
  3. Still seeing issues with matchmaking getting the "person has cancelled matchmaking" error sometimes.
  4. Every game it seems like we get into a lobby where one team is way better skilled that everyone else and just dominates the game. Last night I played a game like this and the team was streaming so I went into the stream and they were top 150 ranked and we are gold, bronze and silver. Made the game completly unplayable
stone aurora
# vernal girder If this next patch doesn't effectively knock Medium back into parity with the ot...

I would also love a nerf* (I originally said buff lol I meant nerf) to the damn Heavy class or something or maybe sword vs sledgehammer is just not possible because every time they spam that damn sledgehamer and I just don't have time to killl em if I'm using sword. Very frustrating lmao, also the Lewis gun can be hard to kill does a lot of dmg at short range unless you're directly behind them... Just seems like recently, maybe it's because now I have 100 hrs + in and have only been playing Public matches no ranked I am just getting normal SBMM kicking in because I noticed I only get into matches with sweats now like I swear I was doing so much better my first 30 hours playing this game. Also it's weird cuz I don't have good stats at all lmao. Bouta just give up with the sword... Been satisfying tryna snipe

pine needle
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Kinda wish the turret was more glass cannon-like. More punishing but easier to shoot down.

Like ramping damage or fire rate.

solar oasis
smoky gust
soft gorge
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If they don't at least mention about MKB support on consoles on the next patch i'm losing hope. Every day people are mentioning here and on other forums. Just showing they simply don't care.

nocturne flare
#

Text chat, let's gooo!

vernal girder
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All I ask is for this next patch to be as heavy handed with Recon/Defib/FCAR Mediums as prior patches have been with every other class and weapon.

quick coyote
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Add basic social features, for the love of god

daring fossil
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Remove spread completely on revolver while ADSing, and revert the range nerf, and while you're at it, buff range cuz it's fucking garbage. 6 headshots on a medium at 50m is bullshit when he can kill me with an fcar before I fire 4 shots (and no ones hitting 6 headshots in a row)

Also V9S takes 17 shots to destroy a zip line vs 2 quick melees (that do next to no damage otherwise) does this make any sense devs?

ancient hare
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Do ya'll asking for input-based matchmaking realize what that would do to queue times, lag, and sbmm? MnK players especially would have enough time to do their taxes before any game started - while console players at 60fps would have an objective disadvantage against PC controller users at 140fps+

It would be a net negative for basically everyone.

This isn't CoD or Fortnite. They don't have the numbers to make it work.

inner nest
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When you say nuke nerfed it should be across the board!! It's not like red cannisters are hard to find or something. HH with M recon is insanely hard to fight rn because its 2 nukes and 2 rpgs in case you survive a nuke.. resets are hard and recon just makes it worse.. Ranked game's balancing is way off rn!! I've been having HHM HHM HHH or HHM HHM HHM in 70% of my games.. it doesn't take any skill to hit a nuke or rpg

shell lotus
# ancient hare Do ya'll asking for input-based matchmaking realize what that would do to queue ...

Okay? Put me in pc lobbies if I’m using mnk, the fact of the matter Input freedom is a must in a cross platform game, IF IM PLAYING WITH MY PC FRIENDS I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE MNK, if you disagree with that then your just ignorant to facts

Let the devs tell us that if that’s truly the case, untill then you go talk ab something else that needs to be done, yall makin assumptions like that is mad annoying, yall ain’t the devs don’t act like you know sum when you don’t

stone aurora
hard badger
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please nerf mines, its freaking anoying if 2 medium have each 4 mines in total... (they can even have 8 in total if they want...)

twilit leaf
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Disable recon until next patch the game is not fun vs triple mediums

solar oasis
quick coyote
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Fix the matchmaking why does it take over 5 minutes to get into one game

livid charm
#

Are we able to have ranked mode be similar to Call Of Duty Ranked? Not the SnD part, but having unlimited lives and not tokens.

lunar niche
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love how much medium is being abused now that theres word of a rework on recon sense.. get them wall hacks in while ya can boys hahaha

soft gorge
nocturne flare
#

Petition to change embark to emBONK

sleek cipher
#

I think a gmod-like sandbox mode would be really cool, even more if you were able to build houses and stuff, spawn props and ragdolls etc.

proud lichen
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valentin is good at sarcasm

karmic flax
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I think the biggest problem with this game is the crybaby player base who always has something to complain about

brave copper
# ancient hare Do ya'll asking for input-based matchmaking realize what that would do to queue ...

There's enough players on steam alone to fill over 3,000 lobbies at the same time-minimum. Did you even do a tiny bit of actual math before saying they don't have the numbers to do it? Because to me, just the steam numbers alone should cover what's needed. It's only 12 player lobbies...

Also it's so odd to say the uneven tech between different inputs is fine but the uneven FPS between console and PC is unfair to console players. (as if PC players don't have huge FPS differences among themselves)

And there's other console players in here saying consoles can do 120 fps. So who's cappin?

Nothing you said makes any sense.

plush grotto
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pls stop crashing 👉 👈

daring fossil
livid charm
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I think Ranked mode is something that shouldn't be focused on, but I would love to have a LFG option in-game so that I could search for players to stack with. Something similar to World Of Warcraft where you create a listing in-game and people can request an invite instead of going into discord. It's just a thought because it should be easier to sort of what you want. For example, have a title say " Diamond 4 LF Medium Heals, Medium Recon. " and then when you list that, you can see people asking to join with their rank. I think it's just easier and a faster way, but might just be me. This way, people have no reason to really complain about not having the same ranked teammates.

Also, the game is still pretty new, and I doubt everyone is playing this game as much as some are currently. So having a balanced game is tough, especially if you need 54 Tournament wins to even apply for Ranked (Which is amazing btw, thank god)

Overall, I'd say this game just needs time, just like Overwatch and by Season 3 or 4, we might see a better system with ranked, but I think making sure this game is just fun overall is the best approach. I've never had this much fun playing quick play before since I'm a Ranked andy haha

mint crow
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hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaahahhahaahahhahahahahahahha

quick coyote
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I just wish that on console we got the aim assist nerf to 35% like embark intended and not the 0% AA we still have post nerf.

sturdy sparrow
#

My team: silver 1/gold 4
Enemy team: top 500
Good " adjustment to tournament matchmaking that will lead to tighter player skill-gap tournaments" devs, good job.
Game is fire overall, but matchmaking is driving me crazy.

graceful lion
nocturne flare
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Text chat!

keen steppe
#

Light:
Should get faster regeneration out of combat to improve their harass-playstyle. Either shorter time before regen starts or faster regen once it has started

Or a stimshot item instead of changing the regen timer. And maybe make it so you can choose to give that stim to a teammate instead of using it only on yourself

The sniper could use some love as well. Not too sure about in what way tho, since that could easily make it too strong. Some experimentation with firerate might be a good first step imo

M11 is in a weird spot too, it technically is slightly stronger than the xp-45 up close but overall still significantly worse. Maybe enhance the close-range capabilities even more so there is a clear difference between the two

Second charge for grapple or shorter cd

Sword should be able to hit multiple opponents with the charge attack. (The reverse of heavies hammer)

Medium:
If you get defibbed as a medium you should have your own defib go on cooldown or get the glitch effect applied to you to prevent chain defibs
OR
Make it so defib isn't instant but just significantly shortens the regular revive-time. Like a sped up version of the normal revive where you'd have to keep facing the downed-player trophy

Reduced effect for multiple healing beams on the same target. One beam heals for 100%, two beams heal for more than 100% but less than 200%

Rework recon to a have 2 charges. A charge sends out a scan that highlights players in the vicinity for a short duration (it would keep its function as an intel gathering ability without being so overbearing). Or just get rid of it and replace it with defib

Heavy:
Hammer horizontal swings should be able to hit multiple opponents. (The reverse of lights sword)

Performance:
Some performance, optimization and qol improvements are very needed as well

Melee AA should be toggleable

Hottake:
Give Light Mediums movement or recon items since Light has so few team oriented items and Mediums has too many

daring fossil
fallow gust
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Embark please add mnk support on console because we don’t have fun with controller in the finals pleaaaaaaaaaaaase

smoky gust
# solar oasis Weren't you the one complaining about stun guns? Bro it's like 3.5 secs and all ...

yes, i am complaining about them

"Bro it's like 3.5 secs and all guns hipfire at like 90% accuracy at the range in which you can use the stun gun"
i provided video- and statistical evidence to support my point about both of these and why being forced to spray and pray is a flawed interaction

"The closer the light is to you the easier he is to kill"
yes, because at close range the light will fill more of your random spray pattern
but its still random
rng should not dictate your survival, even if its at slightly longer ranges

"I don't get what you think is so OP about stun gun"
i don't think its op, its annoying

"It's literally only used to disable nuke/rpg 90% of the time."
my suggested changes don't interfere with that
it also doesn't stop it from denying revives/steals

it only stops lights from relying on it to cheese kills in head to head combat and gives the other player an actual skill based counter

hard wasp
spark sparrow
#

Mnk on console please

rare urchin
#

PLEASE ADD BETTER CLOTHES IN THE STORE 🙏🏽

livid charm
# smoky gust yes, i am complaining about them "Bro it's like 3.5 secs and all guns hipfire a...

"Bro it's like 3.5 secs and all guns hipfire at like 90% accuracy at the range in which you can use the stun gun"
i provided video- and statistical evidence to support my point about both of these and why being forced to spray and pray is a flawed interaction

-as a light player being stunned by a light player. Those who stun poorly, I end up eliminating easily with spray.

"The closer the light is to you the easier he is to kill"
yes, because at close range the light will fill more of your random spray pattern
but its still random
rng should not dictate your survival, even if its at slightly longer ranges

-As a light main, this is true all the time. I have to stun behind the player otherwise I always lose the duel unless the other player can't aim

"I don't get what you think is so OP about stun gun"
i don't think its op, its annoying

-No one cares what you find annoying, only you do.

"It's literally only used to disable nuke/rpg 90% of the time."
my suggested changes don't interfere with that
it also doesn't stop it from denying revives/steals

-ok

it only stops lights from relying on it to cheese kills in head to head combat and gives the other player an actual skill based counter

-I rely on it when I see the back of a heavy build so that I have enough time to kill him before he eliminates me, and same goes for the medium build. If I didn't have the stun, I would need the help of my team, but the heavy and medium builds have no problem taking me out 1v1 due to their health vs my health. So you're complaing that a light has a tool to have more time to put bullets into you and you find it annoying that you can eliminate a low HP build. Interesting

sonic flare
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Stun gun ain’t even all that good and the whole point of light is again hit and run tactics, it’s also built to be bothersome to distract from objective in a way so yeah it’s gonna be somewhat annoying getting killed by a light with a stun gun regardless.
If you’re clever enough there are counters to getting stunned believe it or not

quick coyote
#

Your game is dying because the cash grabs are obvious now. You're late to the party for EOMM, the ranked experience continues to be the worst experience in multiplayer gaming, not even just with the FPS genre. You're making your game based on one study about EOMM, but You've already missed that boat. People are savvy to it. And honestly even if I keep playing long term, there is zero chance I'll support the business tactics being used through cosmetics. None. Make a good, fun, competitive game and you'll laugh all the way to the bank. Continue down this sweaty, single meta, money grab, and you'll become a laughing stock and then Arc Raiders will fail as well. You'd think you'd see upticks in players after patches, but your patches have made the game incrementally less fun each time. Stop nerfing and balancing such little amount of content.

Also, obligatory, wall hacks is the laziest game design in the world. Y'all really made this unique game and put wall hacks in it. The fact that it was even uttered as an idea.. that person should have immediately been retrained.

smoky storm
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healing beam:Heal from two beams DOES NOT STACK. Healing is paused for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg. Help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay. environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Visual Clarity and gunsight fix:#👂┇game-feedback message

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

event suggestions: #👂┇game-feedback message

nocturne flare
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Text chatterino

karmic flax
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I jus want sniper to do more damage😞

junior pebble
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Stop fucking taking points from me if my shitty teammate leaves how does that make any sense

shut jay
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so many cheaters in ranked...

vale stirrup
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Make turrets shoot slower plz and thank you

smoky gust
# hard wasp What is annoying to you does not matter. If it's not op, then you shouldn't wast...

being annoyed lowers the overall enjoyment of the game and might result, sooner or later, in people leaving
were making big steps towards avoiding this which is great but i personally think that the stun gun has been nerfed in the wrong way and am trying to provide information why i think that way

"they have to rely on pecorino cheese tactics to do anything. Still the weakest class and dead in ranked."
i wrote about that in the beginning of this whole thing
i want light to be viable but without being forced to use cheese
buff light in some way but nerf the stun gun

@livid charm
"Those who stun poorly, I end up eliminating easily with spray."
but only those who stun poorly
and that still doesn't change anything about rng being flawed

"I have to stun behind the player otherwise I always lose the duel unless the other player can't aim"
again, cant win unless you abuse something broken or the enemy is bad because light is underpowered
light should be balanced and fun without being forced to some specific items

"-No one cares what you find annoying, only you do."
you didn't read my explanation why something being annoying is bad, not just for me
also, if you didn't care you wouldn't be writing all of this

"-I rely on it when I see the back of a heavy build so that I have enough time to kill him before he eliminates me, and same goes for the medium build. If I didn't have the stun, I would need the help of my team, but the heavy and medium builds have no problem taking me out 1v1 due to their health vs my health"
again, light is unbalanced
being forced to run some x factor to be useable is not a good state for the class

"So you're complaing that a light has a tool to have more time to put bullets into you"
with the way it's reliant on rng? yes

tame pivot
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Reminder this is a feedback channel not a debate one

With that being said REMOVE NUKES

alpine jungle
sage bison
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Nerf light buff recon. Game will thrive.

placid valley
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buff recon, save the finals

nocturne flare
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Text chat!

ebon elbow
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Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

radiant arrow
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I'd like to see enemy gadgets in the training range (mines, turrets, grenades thrown with a fixed arc)

livid charm
# smoky gust being annoyed lowers the overall enjoyment of the game and might result, sooner ...

"but only those who stun poorly
and that still doesn't change anything about rng being flawed"

  • Yes, that's what makes the stun good vs being bad. Hip fire should be rng.. it's hipfire haha

"again, cant win unless you abuse something broken or the enemy is bad because light is underpowered
light should be balanced and fun without being forced to some specific items"

  • Stun isn't broken, its a tool to balance the build. If you don't use it properly, you will still be bad, if you use it well. You will dominate. So, it's to the skill of the player and not the tool. I've been stunned, and I stun. I can tell the difference haha. What you're wanting is the ligh to be balanced without the stun because of those who can't stun properly.

"you didn't read my explanation why something being annoying is bad, not just for me
also, if you didn't care you wouldn't be writing all of this"

  • I did read it, and as I said before. Only person that cares is you, and I do care what's annoying to me, but I'm not the one crying to others about what's annoying to me. I cry to myself and continue playing because it's fun. I'm writing this because it's fun and I have time haha

again, light is unbalanced
being forced to run some x factor to be useable is not a good state for the class

  • Again, unbalanced to those who can't play light. Only problem I see with light is the health regen. I think if the health was able to come back faster, that be sick and if it wasn't token based in ranked. Light builds would have more chances to jump into the gun fight instead of being useless.

"with the way it's reliant on rng? yes"
I don't rely on RNG, unless you do. Then it seems like a you problem because I've never had an RNG gameplay. I stun, I aim, I click heads, I move, I aim, I click heads, I click heads, I move, I stun, I click heads, and in between all that I run and hide to make sure I'm full health. Crazy RNG am I rite?

pine needle
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Can the Grenade Launchers get a targeting arc or something? Like when you throw grenades. Otherwise why'd you give ADS to those weapons...?

dreamy latch
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Please lower damage at range for the smgs

fossil walrus
nocturne flare
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Text chat!

blissful bridge
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Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox

Revolver:
-Revert Range Nerf from 1.5.5 Patch

Light Class:
-Faster Regen Time
-Add Teamplay Health/Shield Bomb akin to the Vanish Bomb
-Fix Hit-Reg issues with M-11 and XP-54 (bullets don't register consistently)

Grapple and Evasive Dash:
-Reduce Cooldown Time

Thermal Vision:
-Changed to Togglable (Quick Use / No Device)

I would like to see more interactions with maps too.
-Map Altering Destruction Points (i.e. Skyway Bridge)
-Overgrown Areas for Fire Destruction / Shortcuts Accessible with Fire
-Indestructible Doors / Control Areas (i.e. Turret and Walls in Las Vegas, Raised Bridges in Seoul)
-More Casual Interactions (i.e. Jackpots for example)
-Extreme Weather (Tornados, Earthquakes, etc.)

QUALITY OF LIFE

Dead Go Boom - Trophies tick down 5 secs with loud audio cue and are throwable by anyone.
Contestant Characters increased from 6 to 9
Ability to Invite Teammates into the Practice Range

Team Loadouts viewable by button press in scoreboard menu
Enemy Specializations viewable in scoreboard menu
Enemy Class viewable in scoreboard while they are dead

FORGE MODE AND CU$TOM LOBBIES

livid charm
# fossil walrus Nah I agree with <@860239119363866624> .With Heavy and Medium you aren't locked ...

Ehh Iono. I run dash, I hate invis. I tried invis yesterday and sucked for me. I just started using stun gun, but I usually run Flash, gas and fire grenades.

Aren't Mediums locked into healing or Recon in Ranked? You either want a healer or a recon as your medium and you HAVE to have D-Fib? Also Jump Pad and Zipline? That's all I see Mediums run and play. Also, they have two gun that their locked to as well haha

I don't know enough of the heavy builds but looks to me that they're all locked into shield and RPG, but might just be me.

I'm not saying theres no meta or locked builds, but saying it's only light with it being the stun is pretty funny haha. I play a locked Medium Build in Ranked and no one takes me if I don't have those gadgets, guns or specials.

If we were just talking about what's annoying and ruining fun, then that's different. Here's mine,

  • Getting one shot with an RPG
  • Having the dome Shield Pop forcing me to get closer
  • Having a no aim weapon like the flame thrower
  • Sonar being deployed when I'm invis
  • APS turrent when I'm trying to engage
  • Recon senses when trying to hide invis to regen health

Damn, the game should change so that it's less annoying to me.

acoustic storm
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Please reduce the self damage of the RPG. It was appropriate for when the RPG was able to 1 shot lights. But over 250 damage with a much lower damage fallof for oneself is way to high.

For those reacting with a clown: You damage yourself really badly when using the rpg on a ceiling 2 stories above you. The purpose of the rpg is to open up spaces. Not killing yourself while trying to do so. While at the same time dealing near to no damage to enemies when the rocket lands over 1m away from them. The keyword is consistency

tropic swift
quick coyote
nocturne flare
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Text chat!

sinful gazelle
vernal girder
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If the next patch doesn't take significant steps towards curbing the mediocre Medium meta we'll be looking at 11k players by mid Feb.

smoky gust
# livid charm "but only those who stun poorly and that still doesn't change anything about rng...

hipfire should be rng
the player makes the choice to hipfire so they have an easier time shooting but they risk that rng will treat them unkindly
when stunned you are forced to let rng take the wheel, which limits skillful counterplay to basically nothing

this 1 items balances the whole build?
you're forced to run it so you're allowed to have fun?
what's the point of having so many options if you're forced to run x y and z at all times

"Only person that cares is you"
i explained to you why its not just me but you just ignore that

"I'm not the one crying to others about what's annoying to me"
if that were the case, everyone in this chat would be crying
everyone has something they would like to see changed and this is mine

"I cry to myself and continue playing"
i also keep playing, the only difference is that i try to improve things so the game can become even better
if the devs disagree with my arguments i will put up with it
but you miss every shot you don't take
if i don't try, it may not be addressed

"unbalanced to those who can't play light"
i don't play light at a high level, so maybe they are
but a majority of the lights i meet are not and these ones are the ones to cause my problem
my problem doesn't cease to exist just because you don't share it

"I don't rely on RNG, unless you do. Then it seems like a you problem because I've never had an RNG gameplay. I stun, I aim, I click heads, I move, I aim, I click heads, I click heads, I move, I stun, I click heads, and in between all that I run and hide to make sure I'm full health. Crazy RNG am I rite?"
none of the things you mention have rng
but that's because you are the light in this interaction
meanwhile the guy you stunned has to hope the random bullet spread doesn't screw him over, they have the rng

novel hollow
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Was enjoying the game until i realized rank is just sbmm instead of rank. Its a shame, because I was looking to main this game, but instead I am getting punished because I wanted to put hours in quick play before I started ranking, so i felt ready
Been gettin my booty slap left and right, hence I actually have no opportunity to just learn the game and improve gradually by learning from my mistakes and successes.
Can't we just have a rank, where I am facing bronzes if I am bronze, and maybe silvers if we are desperate for a queue.
Plus i want to know what is the actual point of the light class?
I usually play smgs in fps games, and i learn movement a lot, so i thought light would be for me. Yet they lack health (fair enough), but they also lack damage.
A light should have an advantage of having a high dps when faced in a one v one situation against a M or H. And if a light decides to 1v2 or 1v3, he will be punished due to his low hp.
Or are they not meant to be annoying assassins? Are they meant to be recons and scouting? Because they items don't correlate to that either.

Many would say to buff the lights' hp, but i think that will just make them less unique and almost become Mediums with different guns and skills.

If you don't fix the rank and fix this wierd medium meta with everyone spamming guardians turrets. I'll leave, not that you care about one random guy leaving, but i'm sure there are others with the same opinion 👀

opaque patio
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would love if you could choose what dummies you wanted to be up in the firing range it's annoying trying to practice long range tracking when one in front of it keeps popping up

slow sentinel
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We need working voice chat. Thanks

terse inlet
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How about them keys/abilities not working randomly eh? Anyone know why functions in the game just stop working all of a sudden? It takes the wind outta my sails when I'm having a good fight and all of a sudden my weapon doesn't shoot or I can't use my ability. I feel like it happens more when I have literally any other program running like youtube or spotify for example.

livid charm
# smoky gust hipfire should be rng the player makes the choice to hipfire so they have an eas...

Yup, hipfire caused by stun which is what the tool does, correct. Also, that 1 item also is in other builds so not sure why stuns are an issue. You choose what you want to play, not the players. If you don't want to use it, don't and if it's used against you, oh well? The game shouldn't be balanced, that's the fun part. I love being a medium and seeing where everyone is with recon and that is the only ONE item I use and it's paired with my D-Fibs as my other ONE item.

I'll say it again haha, only you care about what bothers you, others can agree, yes, but also others don't as well. So, I guess it's up to the devs to change what's actually important haha. I also don't know why they need to finx things for people who can't play. Go to CoD where they do that haha Your problem is based on players who can't adapt to it or counter it due to their skill. I, a light build can get stunned and hipfire the buddy to death with my Low hp, and I, a light build have been hipfired by people after I stunned. It's an issue with skill, not balance.

The RNG you speak of is skill.

Also, I understand that you're probably saying it annoying, which is fair, but remember. What's annoying to you, is fun for someone else, right? So you want the annoying thing to change, which will ruin someone's fun. That's kinda my point btw. If you were wondering haha I understand there should be changes but changing the game because you find it annoying? or RNG? Nahh, you find it less fun that you can't counter it when stunned, but you also find fun in your builds that others also finding annoying. So ask yourself if everything you found fun, ended up being changed to please others, but then you yourself end up not having fun due to the changes. Hmm

tawdry arrow
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foot step audio needs a slight increase during firefights, if I cant hear a full team breaking walls and blowing stuff up behind me something aint right.

wet badger
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Please Release A BACKFLIP emote 🙂

fringe burrow
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Please revert the revolver range nerf it feels legit awful to play with. Idk if you guys are trying to balance around "medium distance" encounters as some nebulous thing, but so many maps have so many sightlines and objectives so far beyond 20 ish meters it feels awful to play with now except for shotgun viable ranges. Last night I tried to hop on and play and the 2nd game I had I was able to double headshot multiple mediums in roof to roof encounters on monaco, but because of this absurd range nerf I wasnt able to get the kills because I am apparently a few feet too far from the guy lasering me with an fcar. This has to be the most random and worst ways to "balance" a weapon in a game ive ever seen. Why should I be denied kills because my weapon that needs precise shots decides to not do full damage at a relatively close range? Making gunfight viability rely on whether the enemy decided to take a few steps closer is horrendous balancing. Simply not gonna play until this is changed.

raven hatch
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PLEASE fix the game crashing

crude sorrel
nocturne flare
vernal girder
smoky gust
# livid charm Yup, hipfire caused by stun which is what the tool does, correct. Also, that 1 i...

my issue is being reliant on randomness to survive, i doubt anyone has fun with that
the only ones who ever tried to argue against me were of the opinion that forced bloom is not that bad but none found it fun
and if you see it the other way and think light needs it to have fun then that's an issue with the class as a whole

The RNG you speak of is skill.
the rng of bullets going into random directions inside your bloom without having any input in the matter is...
skill based?
looking at someone hoping the forced bloom wont screw you over is skill based?

i think I've heard enough
if you just ignore half of my points and deliberately misunderstand/strawman my arguments then theres no point in it

weary crown
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Can you fix the bug when you revive at the moment when your last living teammate dies, u won't get respawned at the opposite side of map

plain palm
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input based matchmaking for console so I can play kbm again 👍

livid charm
# smoky gust my issue is being reliant on randomness to survive, i doubt anyone has fun with ...

Forced bloom? Is that where aim doesn't matter and it's RNG, but with every build? I haven't noticed any "bloom" and I thought they fixed that? I mentioned it before that I've been stunned as a Medium and Light, with the ability to hipfire the light to elimination. So again, what RNG or are you still just talking about bloom. If so, they should fix bloom, no?

I thought we were talking about the Stun Gun being annoying hahah not the bloom. Which means, it has nothing to do with the gadget being fixed or having ligh be balanced but bloom being fixed, Again, I've been stunned, I hipfire, I aim, and found little to no issue and others I stunned, especially heavy builds, have found zero issue. I have to actually not make the mistake to stun a Medium or Heavy face on because 99% of the time I die (the 1% goes to those who cant aim or blame bloom) so maybe I don't understand your issue.

Is the Stun annoying or are you blaming bloom for missing your targets?

Also, bloom was a problem without even being stunned. It was an aiming issue where if you're aiming, hipfire or whatever, it would give an RNG spray/pattern. Not specifically when you're stunned haha

"i think I've heard enough
if you just ignore half of my points and deliberately misunderstand/strawman my arguments then theres no point in it"

  • Hahaha Sounds good homie. Keep blaming that "Bloom" when you're missing your targets haha
shell lotus
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, I have to keep saying something till the devs give us a reason or just add it in

quick coyote
rose surge
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Flashbang rework idea:

  • Decrease blast radius by 50%
  • Increase time to detonate by 0.5s
  • Increase flash time by 0.5s

The reason flashbangs aren't viable right now is because the radius is so big, the time to detonate and flash times are so short, that you don't have enough time to "close the gap" between you and the enemy before the effects have worn off. Flashbangs work in other games because they have shorter radius and you can time the detonation much easier.

novel hollow
nimble steppe
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ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better

ancient hare
# brave copper There's enough players on steam alone to fill over 3,000 lobbies at the same tim...

Did you really just go to steam charts and divide the active player count by 12? Cuz it seems like you did. If so, that's not how this works.

The player base is divided up over and over and over again before a match even starts.
There's region/connection sorting. There's sbmm (assuming sbmm and rank are the same factor) . There's the fact that we have 4-5 or so game modes counting 3 qp options + ranked and unranked. There's the fact that most people playing are either idle or in a match (not queuing). All that on top of whatever I'm missing and you have WAY less of a pool to pull from. Input based mm would cut that number down even further for steam/pc players.

There are already ongoing complaints about queue times and match quality (which embark has even acknowledged recently) and yet yall wanna throw in more ways to divide up the player base. The games popularity is steadily shrinking and it would totally collapse if queue times and match quality, especially in ranked, got even worse.

Why do you think embark chooses to not make these changes? It couldn't be that they have all the metrics needed to know what's best for their game, could it? Maybe they should ignore all that and just use discord spam and steamcharts...

acoustic storm
# quick coyote Trying moving to the side when shooting the ceiling. That may help

Guess what, I am very well aware of that. And guess what. I even do that. But you know what. That doesn't solve the problem with the rpg's extreme inconsistency (Same goes for other types of explosive as well).

They (explosions) should work in one expected way. If you are on top of an explosion you get dealt a lot of damage. If you are on the edge of the explosion you get dealt less damage. But that isn't really the case here.

Yes, I do believe that the rpg should deal more self damage than damage to enemies, since it should be no in your face tool. But there are limits to what is ok/understandable.

If you shoot the rpg at anything in a 5m radius you will nearly die. While the enemy is unscathed when the rocket hits over 1m away from them. Same goes for most other explosives.

And that is the problem. It is not about "skill issue", it is about unintuitive and inconsistent design which leads to frustration.

If it is still unclear. The problem is not the damage, but the inconsistent damage fallof.

sour bane
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Playing against Recon/Defib/FCAR is one of the most unfun ranked metas I've ever played in a competitive FPS.. balance yo shit!

Oh, turn the corner? Get pre-fired and insta-beamed by the most busted legal wall hack ability ever in an FPS, with one of the strongest guns in the game!

How fun!

Run into a point? Step into 6 gas or explosive grenades, fun!

How do the devs think Med is remotely a balance class?

fringe burrow
# quick coyote Did about 4 hours of revolver testing last night. It's in the best state It's be...

Not at all, if anything I was doing better against fcar sweats pre nerf. Making a gunfight decided on whether a guy was 2 ft too far away is just nonsensical. If you only play at closer ranges then just use the 1887 since it even has surprising range to it with the semi consistent pattern. If your logic held up then we'd be seeing more revolvers in game but fcar is still the most picked by a wide margin with ak right behind. Hitting nice double headshots only be denied a medium kill because of a few feet distance feels awful in every way.

nocturne flare
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Text chat!

brave copper
# ancient hare Did you really just go to steam charts and divide the active player count by 12?...

That is essentially what I did. There's basically no point trying to be more scientific than that when I don't have access to any better numbers.

Of course those 3,000+ lobbies are split between different regions and game modes. Though, we don't know how those divisions are weighted so its not exactly something we can account for.

The fact is that all we can do is make a vague evaluation, which is what you did too, but to make the opposite point.

Even if you assume each game mode and region are evenly split (they're absolutely not) there's still enough players to fill hundreds of lobbies at once (per mode, per region) on just steam. Plenty more room for error when you count players across all platforms.

And since you want to speak for Embark... They have way more data and complexities to consider than people speculating from the outside (you and me). Don't try to elevate your argument to the level of internal evaluations.... that's kidding yourself.

From where you and me are sitting, based on "(player) numbers" which you invoked originally, it seems pretty possible tbh.

paper stream
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My last day with the game. Hope you have fun boys and ladies. No feedback - everything was said already. Me, casual player playing solo has no place in this game. Back to apex (even though it is not in a good state either).

shell lotus
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@ancient hare By that logic bro that means that SINCE ITS STILL CROSS PLAY and pc can switch between 2 inputs, it’s only fair co sole can do the same, like there is literally no downside of me being able to use kbm when I’m playing with my pc friends

plain palm
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people dont read past “add mnk support to consoles” completely ignore the fact that sea of thieves did this just fine and that it isnt a problem if mnk players play with other mnk players.

astral frost
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lol haven’t played apex even once after started playing the finals

quick coyote
twilit lily
# brave copper That is essentially what I did. There's basically no point trying to be more sci...

Fill the lobbies sure, but FAIRLY fill the lobbies? That's where the problem comes in. No one wants to get stuck playing with people MUCH worse or MUCH better than them. While yes, you could easily fill metric boatloads of lobbies even with the current horrible numbers, can you fill them FAIRLY so everyone has a decent experience? Especially at all hours of the day? Because not everyone plays at the same hours.
@plain palm No shot you just used sea of thieves...A completely different genre and a game that isn't even remotely competitive in any sense of the word...At least use relevent examples lmfao. Very few games allow MnK support on consoles and the ones that do, have it seperated by INPUT. This game doesn't do input based matchmaking so thus you could easily gain an advantage. PC can use controller because MnK is the superior input ANYWAY so using controller on PC would (most times) be a negative thing and make you play worse. Playing on MnK on a console, when almost no one uses MnK on there is a very clear advantage. Again, depending on the game. Some games the aim assist is better/stronger than MnK but those are VERY rare. Most times MnK for FPS genre specifically will always be the better input or at the very least pretty balanced between the two.
@astral frost You'll be back to it soon. This game is already 1/5th of Apex's DAILY players. This games ABSOLUTE PEAK is Apex's regular daily count lmfao.

upper citrus
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the revolver isn’t objectively better but it’s definitely good. it’s fine where it’s at right now and will be a perfectly viable pick once the fcar gets nerfed to a reasonable state

strange mountain
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When are we going to get input base matchmaking? Like yeah, I’m ass against mnk, that’s completely normal, but it’s not fun to see that one team every match on steam beaming everyone in the lobby and moving like crazy. I’m forced to play against mnk because one friend plays on PC, and funny enough he uses a controller.

soft gorge
jagged crypt
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the gltich grenade should not prevent you from throwing throwables it shold only affect electronic devices smh

rose surge
# novel hollow So its not viable, and to make it more viable, it should be nerfed? I even had t...

I understand how it could seem that way, but I'm not suggesting a buff or a nerf, it's called a "rework". The idea is that you change how the item is meant to be used. Decreasing the blast radius and increasing the time to detonate function as a means to give the player more time to close the gap to their enemy and then actually kill the enemy while the enemy is flashed. It also means that the player will need to have more skill to time and place the throw correctly, that way flashbangs aren't too OP.

sour bane
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Playing against Recon/Defib/FCAR is one of the most unfun ranked metas I've ever played in a competitive FPS.. balance yo shit!

Oh, turn the corner? Get pre-fired and insta-beamed by the most busted legal wall hack ability ever in an FPS, with one of the strongest guns in the game!

How fun!

Run into a point? Step into 6 gas or explosive grenades, fun!

How do the devs think Med is remotely a balance class? So much skill expression!

fringe burrow
ebon elbow
#

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

rustic cedar
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Make something about triple M for the love of god

novel hollow
solid narwhal
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Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.
Yall pc players are over exaggerating

nocturne flare
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Add a server rank above Finalist 💀

alpine jungle
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Updated matchmaking configuration in Tournament and Ranked Tournament modes, to help ensure closer matches by skill-rating . As for my feedback below I am not smart with the grammar stuff I try my best if it is hard to read plz let me know.

I have not yet tried out the new matchmaking but will for sure and will give my opinion after. But I am making this feedback right now to say that IMO it does not matter if you have players playing in the same skill gap if a player is playing alone/solo with randoms and lots of ppl do play like this/choose to play solo. If you have solo players going against the majority of players who are teamed up in discords made for the Finals these players are going to have so much an advantage over the solo players WHY? Callouts/team strategy. No matter the level of a player bronze or diamond if they are going against a full stack of players bronze/diamond who are teamed up together in discord and that team is making callouts strats etc and then they themself who is alone have 0 callouts happening on their team players not playing together having 0 strat its gonna be a not enjoyable time playing a game like the finals which requires teamwork. Sure we have the LFG in the discord but no many ppl want to and should not have to do this to be able to enjoy this game. The matchmaking should simply put alone/solo players with other solo players who are looking for a match. This would result in longer queues for the solo que players no doubt but at least they would be getting put against other players who are also solo. If balancing matchmaking is a true goal for The Finals then how come you keep allowing full stacks to go against solo que players.

Full stack- Team of players who come into a match as full party/are in discord most likely and using communication/strats.

Solo que- A player who hits find a match and is teamed up with randoms who they do not know and have 0 team chemistry with. A experience where majority of the time there is 0 strats and 0 callouts.

Also I will add a true team of 3 that is together as a team would want to play vs other teams and have exciting matches in ranked playing pretty much scrims. Instead of just taking their team of 3 and playing vs solo qued players who are matched with randoms and they are just winning big vs them with the other team having 0 chance/looking like they are lost and dont know how to play the game.

sinful gazelle
livid charm
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Can we fix the RNG when stunned? I miss all my shots when firing during the effect. I would suggest removing it completely because it's also really annoying to play against and I will say, others think the same. It will help me blame the Bloom more when missing my targets. Thanks!

modern wedge
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-still getting ue5 crashes
-communication in casual is extremely limited due to only having voip as an option

finite ridge
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For private/custom matches, I beg, or being able to go to practice room in a party

earnest ermine
uneven prism
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Cheaters problem needs a fix asap

astral frost
soft gorge
vivid gulch
quartz girder
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fix voicechat on xbox for the love of all that is holy

plain palm
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bring back native mnk support for consoles with an input based matchmaking feature

ancient hare
# brave copper That is essentially what I did. There's basically no point trying to be more sci...

You're right in that we truly don't know what the numbers are, but we DO know, as a fact that the 47k on steamcharts will be fractioned out over and over again before a queuing process even starts. We DO know that queue times and match quality re: sbmm are not great. Again, this was acknowledged by Embark. And we DO know that input based mm would = a smaller number of potential players when using MnK on PC.

I play controller on PC so I'd be so fuckn psyched if input based mm was a thing. At least at first. My games would be so much easier. But it would poison the game in the long run due to the aforementioned issues. If the finals flops bc their pc player base is hurting then Im gonna have to go back to destiny - and I really don't want to do that.

Your only valid argument could be that MnK on consoles would help pc users match quality with IBMM on but let's be real - more people want to play controller on pc than they want to play MnK on console. I would hope that even the fringe console outliers that want MnK back on can admit that.

paper stream
smoky gust
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4 pictures:
the one that looks like the snake is while ads'ing
it will always look like this
if you can account for it every shot will hit the target straight on

the other 3 were taken after a spray without ads, they are all different, you cannot account for where the bullets go, so its up to rng to decide whether or not you hit the enemy

" I mentioned it before that I've been stunned as a Medium and Light, with the ability to hipfire the light to elimination"
again, you can
but its random
sometimes you do, sometimes you dont
its outside of your controle and thats the problem

"Stun Gun being annoying hahah not the bloom"
stun gun forces bloom, that's the issue

"Is the Stun annoying or are you blaming bloom for missing your targets?"
the stun gun is annoying because it forces bloom
this limits skill expression and leaves it up to chance whether or not you survive

"Hahaha Sounds good homie. Keep blaming that "Bloom" when you're missing your targets haha"
here are 3 examples of bullets going into different directions without me changing the input
since its random and you cannot account for it and might not be able to hit enough shots to kill the light, leaving survival up to rng

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strange wagon
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No other game has built wallhacks like this and such a quiet warning sound effect Its bullshit design

solid narwhal
shell lotus
fringe burrow
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Also as a side note to revolver tangent can the high noon skin be fixed? The sights are misaligned with ADS and the front sight blade is chunky compared to the other skins/default. I got it cuz I dig the skin look but the fact the sights are just worse than default and misaligned is puzzling to me. Skins shouldnt affect usability like that.

modern wedge
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pls fix crashes

indigo condor
livid charm
# smoky gust 4 pictures: the one that looks like the snake is while ads'ing it will always lo...

Oh, I agree with you my guy. I've changed my mind. I just ran the tests in Quick Play! I missed my shots and I never thought of Bloom being an issue, but I see it now. I thought I was just bad tbh haha

Those pictures are definitely also while you were stunned I see which forced the bloom, but I'm got it without being stunned. Do you think it happens all the time? but I think you're on to something dude. If we get rid of stuns, we fix the bloom!

Damn, so now I can't say I dropped a 32 kill game with 25k+ damage due to my skill, but instead it was all because of RNG 😦

sour bane
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Thank you Embark for giving people with zero skill the crutch that is the Medium class, giving them the best mobility, best damage (and easy to control), literal legal wall hacks, Defib that grants you instantly one extra life, and more. Prayge Im so happy that people with no skill get to enjoy your game too!

What's amazing is you let them stack so you get 3 extra lives per fight! Amazingly smart balance.

Fire your balance team please.

proven solstice
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I’m having an issue with voip on console anyone know any work arounds. I’ve pretty much exhausted all the resets possible. Want to avoid deleting and remaking my account.

plain palm
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it is insanely common right now to buy a series S for 300 dollars and a packaged mnk from amazon as a budget build, to say that it is a fringe is ridiculous

vivid gulch
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you guys could just make a setting so when you want to switch to keyboard and mouse cross play has to be enabled because this is fair.

upper citrus
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remove console players from the game idk

placid lodge
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sort matchmaking by input not system ez fix

brave copper
# ancient hare You're right in that we truly don't know what the numbers are, but we *DO* know,...

It's worth mentioning that match making is not literally "fractioned out" the way that we're talking about, but I've stuck to this framing for simplicity.

Every factor in matchmaking has a weight. If matches fail to be made in time, the weights change responsively. Asking for control inputs to be factored in is not necessarily as drastic as adding another division in an algebraic way. They could make it a hard set option like crossplay, some people say you get crossplay even with it off.... or they could add it as a factor that the system weighs in when it won't cost too much time.

I should also mention that I play MnK on PC. I'm not advocating for input based matchmaking for my own benefit. I just think that it would be fair if it were done, it's possible to do with the game population, and it might calm the constant bitching back and forth between MnK people and roller people...

limber sonnet
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Can we have match modifiers be a QuickPlay thing rather than a Ranked thing? I don't think the random aspect of Low Gravity, Dead go Boom, etc. really fit for a Ranked Scene.

Thoughts?

sage bison
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devs it's simple, this is how u save the game.

1)Remove light
2)Remove heavy
3)Buff recon
4)Give defib 2 charges
5)give FCAR 25 bullets

Remove console compatibility

karmic flax
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I’m having a lot of fun using the sniper on light. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like it should do just a little bit more damage

smoky gust
ebon elbow
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Nah why leaking that

livid charm
# smoky gust thanks for proving me right there is no point in talking with you it only flood...

No problem homie! I'm glad that you feel good about yourself and the excuses you make when missing your shots. I'm just happy that I can now say the same thing haha! Before, I thought it was my skill, and now after seeing 4 pictures, the evidence is clear.

Of course theres no point! We're on the same team! We miss 100% of the shots due to excuses, not the skill. Cheers for now homie, keep doing gods work.

upper citrus
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oh man what a huge and scary tip to avoid losing the 50 points you’d lose for getting knocked out in round 1. you really showed them! they sure lose a lot from that!

frigid copper
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The game seems to start stuttering if I alt tab a couple times in borderless window mode

lusty grotto
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It is normal that the game is losing players, it is just a game of mediums in all the games you only see mediums.

quick coyote
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remember, when someone says the finals is dying theyre absolutely right and not just angry at their lack of skill 🙄

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paper stream
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lewis gun is a pp gun, no dmg

solid narwhal
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Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

radiant arrow
gritty thistle
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buff recon rn

quick coyote
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console players asking for mnk support has gotta be my new favorite gender of brain rot. actually cannot wrap my head around that level of stupidity. stop wasting your hard earned money on consoles year after year and just buy a pc. you look like a bunch of over-privledges clowns begging for support on something that makes no sense from a design standpoint.

sour bane
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It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won't impact Medium play rate in Tournament and Ranked, because Medium's kit still has

  • the best general assault rifle in the game with the best sight
  • Defib, so 3-stacking Medium gives you 3 extra lives in a fight, and you have it every team fight
  • best individual mobility + team mobility, with two movement equipments
  • 6x Explosive/Gas mines. Good luck pushing points with this, and the fact that when you shoot them, they still go off. Who thought this was a good idea, I'll never know
  • best general team utility
  • the class is so easy to play that anyone can get value out of it.
  • medium is the only class where going all of the same class in a team brings direct benefits to the entire team because of Defib. It's stupid how broken this equipment is even after all your nerfs. Why are you allowed to keep your charge when you're being shot at?

So, yeah. If you don't address this, good luck having a game that will have longevity when the only viable character is one class in a game of only three classes

Your next few patches will be very telling how good of a devs you guys are, or the numbers will keep dropping

livid hawk
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can you please stop putting me into ongoing games for fucks sake
P L E A S E

upper citrus
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so sorry for disturbing your peace, king. good luck going for d1! maybe you'll eventually finish a season top 100 like me. hopefully not in a solved meta like we have rn though :(

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ancient hare
# brave copper It's worth mentioning that match making is *not* literally "fractioned out" the ...

Queue times and match quality are hugely more important than this dumb controller vs MnK debate. Only some people are obsessed with the input debates while everyone wants better matches regarding connection and sbmm.

Nothing yall say changes the fact that there's more controller players on pc than there are MnK users on console. This effectively means that IBMM would reduce the total amount of people available for MnK users on PC.

Again, I'd flourish with IBMM on. It'd be amazing. But MnK users would be worse off.

Another fun thought is that Most of the people who stream/make content for this game (and get significant views) are on MnK/PC. If the game gets worse for them that's bad for overall optics. Devs not only want people to make content with their games but they sometimes need it. Especially when it's new like this one.

Say what yall want but, unless the numbers go back up (which why would they), IBMM will = smaller pool for MnK users. How would that benefit the game?

livid charm
normal fable
ebon elbow
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Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

shell lotus
# quick coyote remember, when someone says the finals is dying theyre absolutely right and not ...

I mean to be fair that’s just steams player count, console has a bigger pool, and palworld is going crazy so naturally people will be playing some new games, now will they be still playing the finals idk but I don’t think it’s certain it’s dying just yet

@quick coyote Bro if you are a pc player stay out of our convo ab this, literally doesn’t concern you, and your statement is just invalid, IT COST ALOT OF MONEY UPFRONT TO BUY A PC, and we only spend about 500 every 7 years or so, quit being classist towards less fortunate gamers, games are cross play, when I play with my pc friends I should be able to plug my mnk to be able to compete in their lobbies, quit your negativity and stay out the convo it doesn’t concern you, idk why you feel entitled to tell people who have families, bills, food , insurance, and other things to pay for to buy a pc if it was that dang easy we would have done it, we’re not trying to be privileged when it should be basic that we have the same input capabilities on a cross play game as pc players, if I plug in my kbm I should be automatically in cross play lobbies, it isn’t gonna run the lobbies cus the game is already ready cross platform WHAT ARE YALL BOT UNDERSTANDING AB THIS? Is it that hard to have decency of fairness for all in cross play lobbies? Imma say it again I play with pc friends SO I CANT JUST TURN OFF CROSS PLAY, god your so infuriating on this topic matter

slow zenith
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"errrm this isn't a problem because i don't care about it ☝️ 🤓 "

solid narwhal
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@quick coyote Hey, I appreciate your enthusiasm for PC gaming, but I’m afraid I can’t just buy a PC or a full gaming setup right now. It’s too expensive for me, and I have other things to spend my money on. Besides, I really enjoy playing on my console. It has great graphics, a large library of games, and an easy-to-use interface, and most of all its cheaper than a decent gaming pc. I don’t think I need to switch to PC gaming to have fun. Maybe someday I’ll get a PC, but for now, I’m happy with what I have

@ancient hare as I said earlier, and I'm still sticking to this: we can just be matched with pc players with kbm. It's not a big deal and other games have already done that, or they could just buff the aim assist

lusty grotto
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The problem is that they are letting it die and I hope not because I love the game but right now the truth is that I have stopped playing, there are only mediums in the games and everyone with rcon is very disgusting, rcon should be removed and the best solution is that class could not be repeated in the competitive

plain palm
quick coyote
livid charm
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Just make sure to ALT + F4 if you're about to lose in the first round though! 🤣 🤣 🤣

blissful bridge
#

Throwables: (This would make the NUKE! riskier to use and easier to counter without introducing another nerf to the C4 and Heavy Class.)
-Decreased Health
-Slightly Bigger Hitbox

Revolver:
-Revert Range Nerf from 1.5.5 Patch

Light Class:
-Faster Regen Time
-Add Teamplay Health/Shield Bomb akin to the Vanish Bomb
-Fix Hit-Reg issues with M-11 and XP-54 (bullets don't register consistently)

Grapple and Evasive Dash:
-Reduce Cooldown Time

Thermal Vision:
-Changed to Togglable (Quick Use / No Device)

QUALITY OF LIFE

Dead Go Boom - Trophies tick down 5 secs with loud audio cue and are throwable by anyone.
Contestant Characters increased from 6 to 9
Ability to Invite Teammates into the Practice Range

Team Loadouts viewable by button press in scoreboard menu
Enemy Specializations viewable in scoreboard menu
Enemy Class viewable in scoreboard while they are dead

Color Wheel for Cosmetics (primary, secondary, and accent)

vernal girder
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Lost enough ranked games to Medium Meta leaderboard players that I finally got an enjoyable game with a legit even split of mediums/lights/heavies. Thanks to EOMM is was definitely a low skill server (trying to give me a handout win) with lots of easy kills, but its a shame it takes that much just to play fun games with mixed builds.

Since we did well that game the matchmaker is going to go back to serving me up as chum for leaderboard players so I signed out for the day. No need to requeue and go back to Recon/FCAR/Defib hell. The games ecosystem is honestly in shambles. The patch did nothing lol

shell lotus
# quick coyote its okay if you're a broke boi, but broke bois don't get to determine or voice o...

You’re just a negative troll who has nothing better to do but just put down less fortunate gamers, I hope you heal your soul from what made you this way but it’s sad, I hope you. Don’t have to be in a less the fortunate situation and some else is kicking you down telling you you shouldn’t have fair rights just like other people

ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSLE, adding mnk support needs to be an option, controller and mnk should not be in the same lobbies but the game is cross platform, which mean I can play with my pc friends so I should be able to plug in my mnk to compete, and if I’m using mnk I should be put in mnk lobbies, if I’m using controller I should be put in those lobbies, freedom of choice is a must if a game is cross plat, matchmaking should be better, KEEP FIGHTING FOR IT THE DEVS WILL EITHER ADDRESS US OR IMPLEMENT IT INTO THEIR GAME

@ancient hare god bruh, by your logic if console players use mnk just put them in pc lobbies, what would that change? NOTHING according to your logics we don’t need ibmm then, there’s your solution

quick coyote
lusty grotto
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The best solution for the game and its balance is to remove rcon and prevent classes from being repeated in competitive.

amber compass
livid charm
# shell lotus You’re just a negative troll who has nothing better to do but just put down less...

Nahh. don't worry about him. Those people usually don't have much and having financal power is the only thing that makes them feel whole. There's a known saying "Money Doesn't Buy Happiness" which is why they act like that. They know they don't have much to offer, so they try to bring people down to their level of loneliness. Let's all stop for a minute and pray for a brother who is lost in his bank account 🙏 📿 🤲

quick coyote
past knot
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What if they gave light defib instead of medium? That might balance things. Lights are so fragile and it would make lights useful.

solid narwhal
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Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

valid night
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roll back lh1 to OB version remove recon replace with defib

sour bane
#

It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won't impact Medium play rate in Tournament and Ranked, because Medium's kit still has

  • the best general assault rifle in the game with the best sight
  • Defib, so 3-stacking Medium gives you 3 extra lives in a fight, and you have it every team fight
  • best individual mobility + team mobility, with two movement equipments
  • 6x Explosive/Gas mines. Good luck pushing points with this, and the fact that when you shoot them, they still go off. Who thought this was a good idea, I'll never know
  • best general team utility
  • the class is so easy to play that anyone can get value out of it.
  • medium is the only class where going all of the same class in a team brings direct benefits to the entire team because of Defib. It's stupid how broken this equipment is even after all your nerfs. Why are you allowed to keep your charge when you're being shot at?

So, yeah. If you don't address this, good luck having a game that will have longevity when the only viable character is one class in a game of only three classes

Your next few patches will be very telling how good of a devs you guys are, or the numbers will keep dropping

earnest ermine
shut charm
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add a quick cash ranked mode . less que times ,quicker games(for all those adderal kids) and for people with little time

ancient hare
# solid narwhal <@456226577798135808> Hey, I appreciate your enthusiasm for PC gaming, but I’m a...

Omg you guys I've said the same thing like 4 times now and you keep tagging me without responding to it at all.

Do me a favor and answer this question:

Which number do you think is bigger?

A) The total # of people playing the finals SPECIFICALLY ON MNK (feel free to include console MnK users just for fun).

or

B) the total # of people playing on PC, counting both controller and MnK.

If you think the answer is A, then that's weird and idk what to say to you.

If you think the answer is B, then you agree IBMM would = a smaller player pool for MnK users than what they get when currently disabling cross play.
That's the issue. They're trying to fix MM and queue issues and that will only make it worse for MnK users.

I honestly don't know how else to explain it

clear nova
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add friend leaderboards

mortal owl
#

There should be a map with just a shit ton of buildings and structures hanging off echother and thell just fall from the mayham during the match to fight on the floor Like those yellow wire structers in some maps but it's just all that. AND TRAINS just have trains going around the wired structures. A vertical map

normal fable
# sour bane It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won...

This was summed up well and I agree so I'ma help out with your spam posting
It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won't impact Medium play rate in Tournament and Ranked, because Medium's kit still has
-the best general assault rifle in the game with the best sight
-Defib, so 3-stacking Medium gives you 3 extra lives in a fight, and you have it every team fight
-best individual mobility + team mobility, with two movement equipments
-6x Explosive/Gas mines. Good luck pushing points with this, and the fact that when you shoot them, they still go off. Who thought this was a good idea, I'll never know
-best general team utility
-the class is so easy to play that anyone can get value out of it.
-medium is the only class where going all of the same class in a team brings direct benefits to the entire team because of Defib. It's stupid how broken this equipment is even after all your nerfs. Why are you allowed to keep your charge when you're being shot at?

So, yeah. If you don't address this, good luck having a game that will have longevity when the only viable character is one class in a game of only three classes

Your next few patches will be very telling how good of a devs you guys are, or the numbers will keep dropping

livid charm
# past knot What if they gave light defib instead of medium? That might balance things. Ligh...

I think that the developers have the 3 builds designed in a particular manner. It almost seems as if Heavy is Tank, Medium is Support, and Light is DPS. I'm not saying that's not a sick idea, but I have a feeling that this was the plan around the 3 builds and that the D-Fib would give Light a support tool. Not saying it's bad, but maybe a long shot hmmm. I would personally love to see faster health regen so that the engagement increases and that we can keep jumping back in or making it harder to kill us if we move around more.

shell lotus
# ancient hare Omg you guys I've said the same thing like 4 times now and you keep tagging me w...

Lemme break this down for you

Console has a bigger pool of players (all on controller) if you let them use mnk move them to the pc lobbies (by the logic your giving we don’t need ibmm since it’s a mix of both inputs) it will make pc pools bigger thus not making it smaller

The whole “what do you think pc players use more controller or mnk “ doesn’t matter at this point cuz just adding mnk console users to y’all’s lobbies, it wouldn’t negatively affect console lobbies (bigger pools) or negatively affect pc lobbies (making them bigger)

Does that make sense to you?

solid narwhal
# ancient hare Omg you guys I've said the same thing like 4 times now and you keep tagging me w...

What I'm trying to say is idc if they add ibmm or just buff AA, or even both if they are feeling bold to make it more equal, but I'm tryinna play kbm on console, but I'm also trying to make it so that both sides will have a mutual relationship. Thanks for adding another perspective to this problem but fr though I don't want to switch to controller or pc honestly I think if they are clever enough to add in another solution into the mix to have the best of both worlds(AA and IBMM) then like all credit to them.

plain palm
sour bane
#

It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won't impact Medium play rate in Tournament and Ranked, because Medium's kit still has

  • the best general assault rifle in the game with the best sight
  • Defib, so 3-stacking Medium gives you 3 extra lives in a fight, and you have it every team fight
  • best individual mobility + team mobility, with two movement equipments
  • 6x Explosive/Gas mines. Good luck pushing points with this, and the fact that when you shoot them, they still go off. Who thought this was a good idea, I'll never know
  • best general team utility
  • the class is so easy to play that anyone can get value out of it.
  • medium is the only class where going all of the same class in a team brings direct benefits to the entire team because of Defib. It's stupid how broken this equipment is even after all your nerfs. Why are you allowed to keep your charge when you're being shot at? Why is a team allowed to instantly get everyone up in the middle of a gun fight?

So, yeah. If you don't address this, good luck having a game that will have longevity when the only viable character is one class in a game of only three classes

Your next few patches will be very telling how good of a devs you guys are, or the numbers will keep dropping

honest mountain
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Is there any way to tell developers to make an option to turn down / off the sound if the cash out (‘:

earnest ermine
wintry abyss
#

Will their ever be custom games so you can like 1v1 your friends

ancient hare
# shell lotus Lemme break this down for you Console has a bigger pool of players (all on con...

You're asking for there to be a massive exception for console users that further complicates something they JUST fixed (crossplay). You want to add a whole extra variable just so a tiny fraction of console users can use MnK?

Even if you don't understand that this is unreasonable, you can hopefully at least acknowledge that they must have had a good (totally unrelated) reason to disable MnK. Clearly denying access to a small number of console users is worth turning it off.

get a PC, cheat with xim, or just keep waiting for them to change the game exactly the way you want it. It would be very low priority so if you decide to wait - don't hold your breath.

coral axle
#

cheaters PLEASE buff them!

solar oasis
tawdry geyser
#

please fix the bug where it unplugs your kbm and mic

ebon elbow
#

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

inner coral
#

#👂┇game-feedback
We need ALOT MORE TO DO.
Things to earn, and events, things to help us connect to The Finals more than just the feeling of our gun or a wall breaking open.
(AND PLEASE REVERT GROUND FRICTION TO BETA PROPERTIES, SLIDES FEEL USELESS UNLESS IM ROOF GRINDING/EDGE BOOSTING WHICH BARELY HELPS YOU MOVE BETTER THAN A DEFAULT SPRINT).

shell lotus
# ancient hare You're asking for there to be a massive exception for console users that further...

Who are you to say it’s a massive fix? I mean your not denying the fact that I spit earlier ab how it wouldn’t diminish player pools so there’s no problem there, it’s seems like to me your speaking for the devs rn, like my complaint is just as valid or invalid as the next person who is asking for buffs or nerfs, I can wait for them to add it, I got a feeling they have definitely see us talking ab this kbm support on console problem who who to say what they will and won’t do

winter zealot
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#removeturrets

solid narwhal
# ancient hare You're asking for there to be a massive exception for console users that further...

I was totally on your side, but there is no definitive answer to how many console players use a keyboard and mouse compared to a controller, as different games and platforms may have different levels of support and popularity for both input methods. The devs removed kbm from the game because it wasn't fair to the controller players AT THAT TIME, but if they have something in place to make it so that both sides can play together in harmony or just make it so that console kbm players can just play with pc players then honestly nobody would have a problem, and If there aren't many kbm console players then pc players will basically be unaffected by them if they just lock cross-platform to being on permanently untill if they want to switch to controller

@solar oasis it's not impossible bro, several other games have their own unique anticheat to detect xim users, I think The Finals can pull it off

plain palm
earnest ermine
#

We need facial hair customisation. That's all I gotta say

dense rivet
#

WE NEED A PLAYGROUND MODEEE DESTRUCTION IS SO FUNN

sacred siren
#

fix ur rank system i shouldnt be in a lobby of all top 100s and if im on a losing streak at d4
also add a way to see rank before hand / check teammates profile cause this oki kid is actually s1

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quick coyote
teal thistle
#

get rid of these funny symbols

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smoky storm
sacred siren
upper linden
#

make it so you're able to see contracts during a game

ember acorn
#

Just doesnt make any sense that heavy is the most tank in the game and also the one that does more damage

smoky storm
craggy dragon
#

Anyone think that the stun on the stun gun should effect there ability to hip-fire? like the bloom while hip-fire while stunned isnt affected by the stun!

lofty laurel
#

bring back kbm on console

normal fable
#

It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won't impact Medium play rate in Tournament and Ranked, because Medium's kit still has

  • the best general assault rifle in the game with the best sight
  • Defib, so 3-stacking Medium gives you 3 extra lives in a fight, and you have it every team fight
  • best individual mobility + team mobility, with two movement equipments
  • 6x Explosive/Gas mines. Good luck pushing points with this, and the fact that when you shoot them, they still go off. Who thought this was a good idea, I'll never know
  • best general team utility
  • the class is so easy to play that anyone can get value out of it.
  • medium is the only class where going all of the same class in a team brings direct benefits to the entire team because of Defib. It's stupid how broken this equipment is even after all your nerfs. Why are you allowed to keep your charge when you're being shot at? Why is a team allowed to instantly get everyone up in the middle of a gun fight?

So, yeah. If you don't address this, good luck having a game that will have longevity when the only viable character is one class in a game of only three classes

Your next few patches will be very telling how good of a devs you guys are, or the numbers will keep dropping

dense dune
#

pls let me leave a game if no one is on my team in tourneys

ebon elbow
#

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

foggy pulsar
#

Did the game stop being stale?

quick coyote
# normal fable It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won...

saying the best “general assault rifle” is a little silly, considering lights have submachine guns and heavies have LMG’s. If you mean best full auto weapon, that title goes to the LH1 or the lewis gun way before the fcar.

a full team defib actually counts as 1 and 1 half extra players since you’re revived at half HP.

mines are considerably easy to counter considering every class gets a form of explosive capability

the point of the medium class is to enable your team with utility, so there is something to say about 3 stacking medium with something like healing gun…but do you genuinely think theres a balance for this without putting training wheels on the class?

theres no inherent problem with “starter characters” for casuals. there is a good reason the other classes start locked on a fresh account.

there are benefits to going three of any class, but especially heavy. 3 rpg’s, 3 nukes, highest possible health.

there are genuine criticisms of medium, but you only found one of them

solid narwhal
#

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console!
Please and thank you.

sour bane
#

It's worth considering that even after you rework Recon next week, it likely won't impact Medium play rate in Tournament and Ranked, because Medium's kit still has

  • the best general assault rifle in the game with the best sight
  • Defib, so 3-stacking Medium gives you 3 extra lives in a fight, and you have it every team fight
  • best individual mobility + team mobility, with two movement equipments
  • 6x Explosive/Gas mines. Good luck pushing points with this, and the fact that when you shoot them, they still go off. Who thought this was a good idea, I'll never know
  • best general team utility
  • the class is so easy to play that anyone can get value out of it.
  • medium is the only class where going all of the same class in a team brings direct benefits to the entire team because of Defib. It's stupid how broken this equipment is even after all your nerfs. Why are you allowed to keep your charge when you're being shot at? Why is a team allowed to instantly get everyone up in the middle of a gun fight?

So, yeah. If you don't address this, good luck having a game that will have longevity when the only viable character is one class in a game of only three classes

Your next few patches will be very telling how good of a devs you guys are, or the numbers will keep dropping

gleaming tide
#

Egg throwing knife skin thanks

waxen granite
#

Remove recon holy god

lofty laurel
willow laurel
#

Considering the last nerf about C4, I'd suggest it's now time to think about reducing the number of red canisters so we can at least don't get nuked in every encounter with an enemy team in ranked mode. I'm all for keeping this mechanic and "have fun" with it, but it needs to happen way less often than now...

crude sorrel
gray prawn
#

does anyone else experience a bug where everytime you log into the game, the frame rate is uncapped? pc only

past fox
smoky storm
vernal girder
# willow laurel Considering the last nerf about C4, I'd suggest it's now time to think about red...

The problem is that the nuke is a requisite part of Heavy's ability set at this point. Class will need buffs elsewhere before you take away this ability.

No more talk of nerfs for light or heavy class until the Medium Meta issue is resolved. Since the last patch was way too soft handed on Mediums, we CANNOT be nerfing the other two classes at all.

If you want to talk about buffs to heavy and light I'm all ears.

teal grove
#

add ball to roulette skin

quick coyote
idle adder
#

One thing I've realised while playing is that the stun seems overwhelming to fight against, it seems to shut you down before it's even started, I think some sort of (short) delay like a charge up or something could be fun for both sides, adding satisfaction and removing some frustration

solid narwhal
#

Yo add kbm to console so we ain't restricted to playing on controller

lofty laurel
oak kernel
inner folio
#

FIX CONSOLE RANKED SERVERS FOR OCE, I CANT QUEUE INTO A GAME

coral axle
#

cheaters are not being handle, massive reporting a cheater doesn't help either, we need some serious changes to AC

plucky torrent
#

Riot shield can melee + quick melee and kill a light pretty much instantly. please fix quick melee. you can also bind mouse wheel up to change weapons, and mouse wheel down to quick melee and have bascially no delay in how fast you can use it. neither of these are intended.

solid narwhal
#

Kbm on console so my mom can come back with the cookies and my dad can come back with the milk

sharp belfry
smoky storm
unkempt tree
#

I have noticed a lot recently when using C4, if it gets destroyed for whatever reason, the game does not tell you or indicate that the item was destroyed. PLEASE add this, it make or breaks a lot of shit.

twilit sorrel
#

Make the glass on doors easier to see. The Vegas glass doors have gotten me killed so many times because it looks like they’re blown out but I get stuck running against glass. Or have the players auto run through them.
Also, the roof windows, I should be able to jump up and through them. I shouldn’t have to shoot or jump up and melee them before I can climb out.

knotty bloom
#

Get rid of one of the weekly contracts that being the one where you must stay hidden for 300 seconds. You essentially have to stay afk for 5 minutes and you can get kicked from staying afk. It’s just a bad contract which is bad for both sides. Please remove this contract

white elbow
#

is there a reason that the level up rewards for items get significantly increased wear going from 5->6?
I personally see no reason to ever use the lvl 6 reward as it is so beat up, also are there going to be more level rewards or is lvl 6 the cap?
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grand steeple
#

Killcams would be useful

dense dune
upper citrus
fossil citrus
glacial salmon
#

Lower the LH1 rifle recoil even more. No reason for that weapon to have such a skill cap for Lights when other precision weapons on other classes have it easier. Matter of fact, no reason for it to be so hard to control in general considering how hard lights are to play in this meta already.

solar oasis
past fox
plucky torrent
#

There's so many exploits with quick melee. It needs an cooldown or a delay netween attacks. Players cam cheat it by attacking with a sword or shield or sledgehammer or dagger and quick melee immediately after for extreme DPS.

solid narwhal
coarse stump
#

sentry's weak ngl

dense dune
sharp belfry
white elbow
#

The vast majority of cheaters are closet cheaters who do their best to hide it and look legit while still gaining a competitive edge. Rage hackers/spinbotters or blatant aimbotting is the minority. Have you ever heard of a game called Escape from Tarkov? Thats why its 🤡

upper citrus
quick coyote
#

I think dev should quit update this game.
Game is too perfect.
Put more effort on Arc Raders pls.

solid narwhal
fierce flume
dense dune
rose surge
crisp elk
light hull
#

Skin gas granade polish onion yesegg HEREWENOOOOOOOOW

humble wave
#

a portal gun tailored for the light class in an FPS game could revolutionize gameplay dynamics. The inherent agility and speed of the light class often make it challenging to navigate the battlefield efficiently. A portal gun would provide this class with a strategic edge, allowing players to create instant shortcuts, flank opponents, and outmaneuver heavier adversaries. This addition not only aligns with the agile nature of the light class but also introduces a layer of tactical depth, enhancing the overall gaming experience. It opens up new avenues for creative strategies, promoting a dynamic and unpredictable environment that adds excitement to the gameplay. In essence, a portal gun for the light class would not only be great but could redefine the way players approach and engage in FPS battles.

sharp belfry
shell lotus
solid narwhal
#

@fierce flume It's a preference bro chill, also I'm already good at controller

@sharp belfry can you read the last bit of text in my last reply please

night plume
soft gorge
#

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mine

lofty laurel
quick coyote
rose surge
#

Fucking hell please balance lights they're so fucking bad right now.

past bloom
#

It's because recon sense. straight up.

shell lotus
# night plume get out

@quick coyote @quick coyote So it’s only okay to ask for nerfs and buffs? And we can’t ask for kbm console support? Why do yall get to ask for nerfs and buffs but we can’t ask for kbm support? This is a feed back discord, yall not in charge idk why yall feel so entitled to shut us down this is literally ridiculous the way yall act towards us, we are just entitled to ask for what the lot of us console player want(the bigger base) and we want KBM SUPPORT ON CONSOLE,

Seriously go worry about something else else and don’t put us down

sharp belfry
solid narwhal
quick coyote
#

Lights are balanced. Their guns average out to the most damaging weapons in the game, they have the only form of CC, their hitbox is the smallest, and they’re the fastest.

Give lights any more health/regen, or any more damage, and they will bulldoze lobbies

quartz girder
#

I am once again asking for voice chat on Xbox to be fixed soon

strange mountain
#

Nah brother, if they ever decide to officially add mnk support to consoles it has to come with input base matchmaking.

river bear
#

just got disconnected from a ranked, then tried to reconnect and got stuck in an infinite loading screen 👍

quick dew
#

vault las vegas

covert sparrow
#

please devs give me more character slots I will pay whatever you ask of me happy_friend

upper linden
#

Make it so we could see are pings

past fox
fiery steppe
#

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quick coyote
soft gorge
drifting nebula
#

6vs6 team death match and everybody doesn't matter the class have the same health and the maps size are reduced or maybe new ones,You guys think that will be a good mode?

brazen shoal
#

We should have a bot mod so we can practice

quick coyote
valid night
#

roll back LH1 to OB version remove recon replace with defib

solemn patrol
#

Hello, just some quick feedback. I believe the option to enable/disable the autolock feature for melee on mnk would be a very helpful QOL change. There have been many instances where I will run the riot shield/medium setup and lose fights due to the heavy autolock correction the riot shield tries to do. Makes me swing way over or past them, unintentionally making me miss, where if I were just aiming myself, the swings would have hit (I think 🤡.) Thank you and please take it into consideration

neon bloom
#

It would be nice to be able to see your stats breakdown per class, as well as per game mode, ranked/casual.

warm mauve
#

Idea: Remove defib from medium and give it to light class.

spiral merlin
#

mnk console and input based matchmaking

quick coyote
vapid granite
#

Idea: Nerf the fkg healing gun