👂┇game-feedback

[cloud jungle]

Damage from multiple explosives shouldn't stack

[visual basin]

anyone else get a bug where you cant shoot?

[olive epoch]

That wallhack kill that game. rank mode is fucked up atm, and that recon ”nerf” on this patch lol. Remove it

[granite topaz]

For some people if you respawn you can shoot again.

[sharp belfry]

The only fun matches anymore are the one's without Mediums

[tardy dawn]

After this patch it's buggy as fuck

[maiden ember]

so no round anymore? maybe but solo-mode aka "lightspam-mode"

[undone cobalt]

fix hit reg :)

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.
Its time to let go. 🙏

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 💸 Solo bank it its just copy paste bank it.
• 🎮 There is no QA team maybe.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• 🤫 No communication with player.
• 🎨 Only art and sound team work hard.
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

Wish they awake and become great game again.

[regal estuary]

i agree very much

[cunning kernel]

[•CLOAKING DEVICE SHOULD BE A COOLDOWN BASED ABILITY NOT TOGGLE ]

[•DEFIB SHOULD ONLY DO THE ANIMATION WHEN IN RANGE FOR RESURRECTION.. IT PREVENTS INSTANT REVIVES]

[dusk forge]

having lights in ranked games feels like having trolls as teammates...no group support in any form

[valid night]

plz stop play with lh1 damage number just buff it to 50 or roll back to OB version

[cloud jungle]

GIVE US GYRO SUPPORT ON PS5

[pulsar dagger]

Not sure if this has been discussed yet, or if this is even allowed here. But I've been playing on lowest settings for over a week on my SteamDeck and just tried launching after applying an update, and the game crashes when the level is about to load. Anyone else experiencing this?

[feral canopy]

No communication with players? lol what, devs have probably been the most active devs I've seen

[swift granite]

has anyone experienced a drop in frames on las vegas since the latest patch due to the change in building destruction?

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 💸 Solo bank it its just copy paste bank it.
• 🎮 There is no QA team maybe.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• 🤫 No communication with player.
• 🎨 Only art and sound team work hard.
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

Wish they awake and become great game again. 🙏

[foggy python]

Look into throwing knife rank xp. It's broken

[plucky torrent]

Game crashes a lot when alt tabbing in and out. also there is a melee glitch that lets you quick melee like 4 or 5 times a second

[wise estuary]

FIX THE FUCKING BULLET SPREAD ALREADY HOT FIX IT

[void sand]

Did they nerf aim assist again? It feels a lot worse

[stray basalt]

It’s bullet spread

[azure ice]

add private/custom matches

[craggy niche]

stop reposting the same stuff.

[carmine ginkgo]

They fucked up controller setting lol, somehow ads sensitivity is doubled u can just half it

[umbral rampart]

This.

In the team-based modes, anytime I get one on my team it has been either close to a loss, or just an immediate one.
That said, I've had a few good ones in my ladder climb. Provided support when someone was being singled out, reviving quickly, etc. But for the most part they just do their own thing, to no help of the team.

Like it's not about how many kills you get, it's the key kills you get. And I feel like a lot of players who choose Light for ranked, at least in the lowers levels don't get that.

[golden heart]

I have this bug in my AK in which I have currently 3 selected skins. My tag is EpicSpark#9682 if some gamedev want to look deep into it

[wanton quarry]

On PS5 theres no AA within 20m.

[daring fossil]

known issue, only fix is to delete contestant and make a new one

[pale moon]

This is beautiful.. ..

[young quail]

with this new update my friends mic gets turned off whenever he enters a new menu and he’s on Pc and nothing is working

[steel stirrup]

Jup Las Vegas is Dog Shit

[sudden trail]

can we get rid of sbmm in ranked?

[fluid acorn]

I saw that the latest patch mentioned hair clipping through outfits was fixed, but I have a Medium character with long hair, it still clips through the hoodies, the 5th and 6th options for upper body, with the 15th hair option

[waxen root]

The game has only 20 fps 90% of the time, my pc should be easily handling the game with an intel i7-12700h, 16gb ddr4 and a nvidia RTX 3070

[placid valley]

The game is basically dying. If you are not working at the new balance and planning to release it asap, I would say the game is done. 0 fun to play with another 11 medium recon fcar shooter.

[worldly fable]

Replace money explosions with blood and gore when a player dies

[feral canopy]

Recon sense should be changed to a one time scan with a cooldown between scans similar to a bloodhound scan in Apex

[hard wasp]

Melee weapons are off meta already, and require some sort of buff to promote fun and more interactive playstyles than fcar +recon.
Sledgehammer seems balanced.
Dagger is basically non existent needs to be removed / reworked somehow
Sword is good but the charge up time for right click needs to be 0.5 or 0.3 faster. That time makes all the difference in a fire fight where you are at a disatvantage already.

[quick coyote]

I think your pc has a problem or sum. My pc is slightly worse than yours and I run it at 240 fps (everything low except distance)

[floral hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[wanton nimbus]

bring back keyboard and mouse support to xbox 🙏

[sour bane]

BUFF RECON SENSE AND MEDIUM

[brave plover]

PLEASE NERF THE FCAR

[hexed aurora]

Soooo are there going to be more items or transfer VR bucks towards something since everything I have is unlocked and im currently maxed at 3k...

@kindred harness
buddy, just trigger tap instead of thinking spraying is a good idea. It's not a hard concept. lol

[orchid island]

dagger can be pretty dang fun,but i think that its performance in the betas just left a bad taste, and that theres just a stigma around the weapon

[late cargo]

Fix that:

LoginId:dfd2b4584199c57dd7cfdfb03683dbd3
EpicAccountId:

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000000

MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

Discovery

[fluid acorn]

what would the point be to ranked matchmaking without it being skill based in some way?

[silk socket]

First, I am enjoying the game. Thank you for something new in the gaming scene. Please return keyboard and mouse support to console. I think there is something funny about allowing PC players to choose their input while restricting console players to a single option. Lock crossplay to “on” when k&m is the selected input. We already know it works, so why was it removed? Let players choose how they would like to compete. Thanks.

[rose surge]

It's crazy that the game is getting less balanced instead of more. I wonder if they are just rolling some dice when they decide what to buff/nerf. Got back on to see if things were better but I'm repeatedly losing to teams with just mediums. Why not delete lights/heavies? Just get rid of them instead of teasing us.

[waxen granite]

I'm going to go play Fallout New Vegas until recon gets removed or heavily nerfed. The Mojave Calls me cya nerds. P.S Nerf Recon

[sonic axle]

YALL MUFFED UP THE LIGHT CLASS - STRAIGHT VIOLATED THEM

[timid reef]

Please just take more from arena shooters. Spray patterns, bloom, etc don't make for a fun high TTK game. Increase player movement and add movement based abilities if you want to create dynamic and challenging aim scenarios

[fading slate]

pls consider making it be able to see your contracts in game when you pause the game. while also making it live update to see if we did complete that contract and proceed to the next one.

[quick coyote]

bro wants black ops 4

[sudden trail]

what is the point of a rank if the rank means nothing but the time you played ranked?

[tiny grail]

It should probably be rank based rather than skill based, if sbmm is what's putting bronze against diamond.

[quaint vigil]

please allow us to purchase certain items individually from a set. I'm not trying to spend $20 dollars to only use 1 of the items while the rest I never equip

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 💸 Solo bank it its just copy paste bank it.
• 🎮 There is no QA team maybe.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• 🤫 No communication with player.
• 🎨 Only art and sound team work hard.
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

Wish they awake and become great game again. 🙏

[steep plaza]

Anyone else Contracts not tracking progress??? I just played a solo match and nothing was tracked…

[soft wedge]

It would be nice if we could choose the reticle of the viewfinder as in overwatch the reticle of the fcar is horrible

[daring fossil]

im surprised this isn't a thing already, just another thing they can monetize

[frosty sonnet]

In ranked there should be a limit to how many classes a team can play at once such as 1 light 1 med 1 heavy so it’s balanced for everyone

[wise dock]

Hi the Asia server is very bad it always lages

[stoic pumice]

the stun gun is a horrible game mechanic, ineffective in ranked and annoying as fuck to play against.

[ruby timber]

cheaters ruined the game gg. at least 1 cheater every game.

[fossil fable]

Enemy movement noise is inconsistent as fuck

[valid night]

the 1 point damage buff on v9s is meaningless. the problem is short range if you guys truly want buff it just roll back the range nerf you guys did in game release. in exchange nerf it's magazine capacity to 18

[mighty hawk]

I am requesting a fix to the voice chat in game, even with other issues mentioned I would not mind if the voice chat worked because that would allow me to be able to coordinate and give calls which is really important sometimes in those clutch situations. My specific problem is that when the social tab "says" that my steam profile is muted the game is unmuted and vice versa whenever I try to switch it. Thanks..... 🫡 🫡

[reef jasper]

Recon needs to be removed/replaced with DEFIB

FCAR should have 2.0x headshot multi not 2.5x

SH1900 now requires 2 shots AND 2 melee to kill a single heavy… nerf range, put damage back? Or maybe just add literally 1 damage back per pellet
2 shots 1 melee would be much more fair

[glossy moth]

take some accountability you're just dogshit

[sour bane]

Buff Recon Sense buff Medium buff FCAR

[tepid violet]

Sounds like an skill issue

[uneven quiver]

Something that really bothers me is when there is an event active and you want to look at the kills/assists etc. You aren't able to see the play placed at the top of the GUI because the event name is covering it up. It is really aggravating when I'm trying to figure out my K/D or just how I'm doing compared to my teammates. Please fix Embark 🙂

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

Wish they awake and become great game again. 🙏

[twilit lily]

The cheating issue is EXTREMELY prevalent. Tons of clips/content around it. Not like these are closet cheaters, they are BEYOND blatant lmfao. The fact people are still filled with so much copium is insane. This is why they take forever to address issues lmao. Just because you might not find them, doesn't mean there aren't endless amounts legitimately everywhere.
@quick coyote Become great again? It was great for like 2 days. When it had a peak of 200k. After that it's only pretty much gone down lmao. It was never "great". Fun game to jump in for a few hours on a day off or with the boys, but definitely not staying power long term. It was never "great" it was just fun because it was different compared to the other big FPS games.

[dusky yoke]

How have they not fixed the weapon bloom!?

[daring fossil]

I disagree, game was great during betas

[cedar sky]

It’s not that serious and compared to most other games they’re trying way harder. Hackers are never gonna go away. It is still very new game. Just give constructive criticism. If u don’t like the game go play Fortnite or sum.

[wary girder]

i was about to win a ranked tournament then my game froze and I couldnt even close the game so i had to restart my computer and when i logged back in i was suspended

[keen steppe]

Better communication with us would be much appreciated.

If you were to do a dev blog or something along those lines in which you explain your reasoning for the changes you implemented, what you are currently working on or keeping an eye out for and what you plan to address in the future would go a long way towards appeasing some of the fears we have about the future of this game and its balance.

Open and honest communication is one of the most important aspects of keeping players engaged with your product even if there are problems with for examples balance patches or bad/stale metas.

So far the only communication I see is "we are reading the feedback channel" and " " which is too little.

Step up and be better than other companies. Show us that you value all these people that want to find enjoyment in your game and see it succeed.

[zinc geyser]

This! 👆🏻

[soft mist]

Is the Map pool bugged again or why do i get 11 times skyway stadium in a row?

[bleak coral]

already got a cm to pass this same thing onto the dev team like a month ago...

[flat shale]

thank you help me spread out the word add k and m to the finals Im working on uploading this song on youtube but I gotta make a video for it

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

Wish they awake and become great game again. 🙏

[quaint vigil]

Could we get a mod/community manager to set up a star board? And could we get some devs to respond to those star board posts?

Responding to this channel would be a nightmare, but responding only to posts that get a lot of community support would help a lot for improving communication

[grizzled sorrel]

agreed

[ruby timber]

TRUTH

[calm prism]

I personally think that when a team starts stealing cash-out, the cash-out progress should stop, for example; say a team is about to cash-out, like 3 seconds left, they should be able to steal it without the other team getting the cash-out

[sour bane]

Silence from Embark is deafening. Do better. Lost a lot of respect for this studio.

[thick turtle]

What Silence? they are quite vocal

[void sand]

FIX AIM ASSIST

[thick fiber]

I don't know what causes it but sometimes I'll activate recon senses, see that no one is around the corner, and then walk around the corner straight into a team

[tepid violet]

Fuck the Player Count. It’s still a great game, yeah the hacker are annoying and they have to do some balance changes but the rest is quite good.

No game is perfect and even when they fix all the issues there will be new issues.

My wish - fix Crossplay, even when I turn it off I play against some Pc players.

And Buff Light Class ffs it’s so bad atm

[grave sierra]

if sprinting into glass doesn't break it, then it should make a bonk sound to highlight how much of a birdbrain you are

[daring salmon]

please fix aim assist on console, its just awful at the moment

[winter laurel]

please buff recon senses- its really bs that it cant be on all the time like wtf embark

[crude path]

add effect from thermal vision to recon sense pls

[quick coyote]

Add Keyboard and Mouse support for the PS5 if Crossplay is turned on

[waxen granite]

Not playing this game until recon is removed or heavily nerfed whomp whomp

[inner bronze]

You guys should add (sprint by default) and (mouse and keyboard) for console. It is a pretty good game tho

[next raft]

The defib is still the most OP thing in the game. having a team of Mediums all with defibs it's near impossible to squad wipe them. especially when they all have healing guns too. Revive from Defib should revive you with quarter health. or less.
EDIT: Yes but upon revive everyone (including my team) pulls out the healing gun immediately and they're at full health. so even if you res at half health, it's basically full within 3 seconds while getting healed.

[celest crater]

We shoult be able to see through the scope of the smg with thermal

[quaint vigil]

defib respawns people well under many damage thresholds, there are plenty of ways to die right after being revived, it has a long cooldown and requires you to be in melee range of the dead player. All in all its a strong piece of utill but it isnt the most OP

[brisk juniper]

Not at all a main concern, but it would be nice to be able to make outfits and save them and then quickly equip on any build. 🖤
Y'all are doing great!

[quick coyote]

The RPG nerf is completely stupid, if you get direct hit by a rpg as a light with all that mobility you SHOULD die by it.

[sudden violet]

The High Noon Skin for the Revolver should have its iron sights be slightly smaller so its more inline with the Stock revolver. As it is its harder to aim with over the stock skin

[placid valley]

Not enough, buff defibrillator also. Medium is too weak
@snow nacelle uninstall the game and play APEX

[cloud jungle]

Rework or replace recon, and defib too

[snow nacelle]

game keeps crashing for my buddy what i do

[muted void]

#buffgoo

[wanton dove]

I agree. We need balance changes ASAP.
The Finals' popularity is terrible rn.
There are so many complaints and there is no real demand for the finals content.

[daring fossil]

yup, player retention has been trending downwards for a couple days, with a noticeable decrease (of 10,000 players) after 1.5 patch, and this is ONLY steam stats

[sudden trail]

The size for a ranked tournament is 48 players, since there's no rank distribution rn so I couldn't really comment on the whole rank queue thing, but with the current ranked system, there shouldn't be a shortage of people to queue up in a diamond/plat ranked game.

It doesn't make sense for a diamond to solo queue and get 2 bronzes for a diamond ranked game in a ranked system. It doesn't make sense even for a sbmm system, there's no way bronze should ever play in a rank game against/with diamonds (we don't talk about smurfs for now).

Currently it's not fun for the casual player base to get queued into 3 stack diamond lobby and it's not fun for the competitive player base that rank is just nothing but a flex of how much time you put into.

But i agree there's a lot of things that need to be fixed and have higher priority than the ranked system, it's just mind-blowing to me that when Embark have multiple games to take inspiration of, and this is the best they can do.

[hasty oriole]

Buff the light class and less utilized heavy weapons plz

[mighty wave]

Remove the invulnerability from defib res. It's overpowered that it can be used as cover after ressing your team mate.

[quick coyote]

I wonder if they will ever have a poll in like the console only version of the game to see if those players like it after the updates?

[glossy moth]

yeah theyre there but half your accusations are all just better players. you're just dogshit grow up

[summer venture]

remove the light class since you guys keep nerfing it under the ground, thanks. gives us less hope

[solemn tulip]

Bro wtf happened to aiming on console? Did they add bloom and completely remove aim assist?

[novel veldt]

Yeah they nerfed heavy twice, while medium has been the best class since launch 😂

Also instead of removing the nuke and making c4 have its old damage back, they just made the nuke useless and gutted c4's damage as well

[lilac geode]

By the love of god NERF THE TURRET. Also make it's aiming sound lower

[tepid violet]

We just need a Light Buff. It was a good start that they nerfed the „skillfull🧢“ rocket launcher yesterday - in the other hand they nerfed the double barrel.

Medium and Heavy are perfectly fine in my opinion except for the mediums turrets these things are so annoying on god

[cosmic crystal]

HOW THE FUCK AM I MATCHED WITH 2 SILVERS IN MY FUCKING TEAM WHEN IM PLAT 1 Fucking embarkers

[placid valley]

We need a TIMELINE or INFOS telling what will we have and update in the next patch. If there is no new balance update I can just uninstall the game today. Everyone playing fking medium is damn so boring

[scenic knoll]

buff weak stuff nerf strong stuff hurr durr will fix the game hurr durr

[daring fossil]

but it got some pretend buffs with yesterdays patch (helps for killing other lights, but that's about it). The things that got nerfed on the light actually needed to get nerfed though IMO. Cloak/stun/DB cringe/crutch loadout. (I main light, and I never used these things except stun which replaced useless smoke grenades (what's the point of smokes when I just get beamed through it like it's not even there) in my loadout, but I always forget/rarely use it)

@novel veldt damage nerf to C4 doesn't really make much difference, 1 c4 still kills lights, and 2 c4 will kill a medium and a heavy (just tested in range, people said C4 doesn't kill heavies anymore). although it does seem silly that breach charges do more damage than c4 now (even though it takes the same amount of charges to kill the same classes as c4, plus there is a cooldown for the second one) I shouldn't have said anything, now it will get nerfed into the ground too.

[sturdy galleon]

Fo reaaaaaal it happened to me so many times dudeee' matchmaking is dogshittttttt

[green bison]

the brightness of red in the background is way too bright, i always get blinded as soon as i open the game because of how bright the red is

[sharp belfry]

What's easier, them fixing it? Or adjusting TV/Monitor settings?

[summer venture]

imo it still went too far. you could make the case for the invis and stuf nerf i guess, stun is fair as 5 seconds is a lot either way. BUT, the shotgun nerf? i mean yeah its annoying as other lights, but arguably its the one thing that made light potentially viable in comp. Yeah the TTK is ridiculously fast, but with the recon and sonar meta id argue if youre getting flogged by it, thats on you. I know its not all ranked focused and i get how it can be unfun for casual players, but man its just rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Ever since patch 1.5, steam users have taken a more steep decline and i bet its the same for consoles. Personally it gave me a real bad taste in my mouth (i know there are apprarently ghost patches too) but I havent launched since. Most vote with their wallets, this is a vote done by interaction and I dont think im alone in that.
Edit: I use the M11 with it almost maxxed out, but im trying to make a fair argument for the sawed off. Its a high risk high reward (in ranked at least against MMM all recon) and even then its ass if youre not playing like a super scavenger interrupting or cleaning up fights. Once again, i get its not all ranked, but still

It is frustrating though, like I've been rooting for this game since launch, submitting regular feedback (most on the consensus of balance between the three classes, i still believe recon doesnt belong in the game in its current state) and it just seemed like they did a complete ignore on that note. the c4 nuke nerf was great, i appreciate some of the buffs to light, but as you said its only effective against other lights.

[graceful tapir]

I think we need the development team to actually address the terrible patch and the reason(s) behind leaving medium untouched rather than pure radio silence.

The game is full of recons (outright wallhacks, no way around it) and a laser beam. Even casual quick play has at least 2 mediums on every team with recons and defibs. Adding salt to injury, the ""bloom bug"" doesn't affect the laser beam Fcar like, at all. So while every other weapon is a literal coin flip mediums' strongest weapon is unaffected, again. The last 48ish hours have been insufferable every time I try to have fun and chill just to get beamed from across the map.

[fluid acorn]

Been getting this error every single match today, it crashes to desktop, pretty frustrating stuff:

LoginId:a8eb3a604a924e6981ee49a37b894b3c
EpicAccountId:0674695875da4f79a27cd4964e34357c

LowLevelFatalError [File:.\Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/D3D12Util.cpp] [Line: 898]
pResource->Map(Subresource, pReadRange, reinterpret_cast<void**>(&pData)) failed
at Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private/D3D12RHIPrivate.h:1387
with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED with Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG

MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

KERNELBASE
Discovery

[digital kelp]

Does anyone know how to fix the download failed issue on steam?

[wanton dove]

Lights need some balance love. It's too fragile in current balance of the game.
Instead of focusing light nerfs, you should nerf other things 😅

[buoyant yarrow]

Guns like the CL40 should do dmg to the player if they shoot it right at their feet. an entire team using it just spamming in under them

[quick coyote]

They do.

[scenic knoll]

kinda sad to see the community not enjoying the game. Ive been enjoying it albeit im only level 8. only been playing light. I dont think the reason this game is dying is cause of balance. This game just doesnt attract a lot of gamers since its so fast and skill expressive, so when you die and have 20-30 second death timers it makes the game unfun for newer players and they just outright dont pick it back up cause of the learning curve.

[daring fossil]

yeah, I played 2 QP matches yesterday (after humming and hawing in the main menu for an hour), one was extremely painful and the other one was actually a good fairly fun fairly balanced match, all 3 teams had a cashout, and we stole the last cashout with literally a second to spare, but I'm with you. The patch all around made me angry and lost faith in devs, im even mad about the RPG and C4 nerf and I don't even play heavy, I play light. They could have nerfed nukes different instead of making them weigh so much they only throw 4 feet now (from 100 m was a little extreme) and the damage. they could have made C4 like breach charges (need to wait for cooldown to place second one) and that change would have single-handedly stopped double c4 nukes, then they could have increased the weight A BIT and it would have been fine.

@fervent tree I agree they have neglected other light weapons/abilities for too long. Grapple needs it's cooldown reduced by 3 seconds MINIMUM, or a second charge. Dash I can't speak for because I don't use it. Maybe an extra 25hp, SOMETHING. Throwing knives and dagger are just straight up useless (throwing knives are fun, but aren't viable). I hated cloak since the very first alpha (it didn't have a cool down and you could literally stay cloaked forever with no sound) but it still needs some tweaking I think (once lights get some love)

[languid ridge]

Trying to balance light is obviously not going to be an easy task, but I think a buff to glitch grenade and maybe more team based buffs/new abilities and gadgets could be a start.

[tepid violet]

Despite all the criticism, don't forget to bag Sword Players who sitting in corners because they have no aim

[summer venture]

light as a class:
HERE ARE THE MOST UNIQUE WEAPONS AND ABILITIES THAT YOULL NEVER GET TO USE, EVER.

@daring fossil im glad we're on the same page, i can see where youre coming from with the c4 nuke but maybe im just too traumatized from being one hit by heavies randomly. Did they change anything to breache charge 'nukes'? Either way man idk. really just discouraged to play and other than to test it out, i think im just gonna avoid the game until its addressed. Disheartening to see it, the game was the most fun ive had in an FPS in a long time and i get the positive outlook of 'its still a new game guys, relax n let the devs cook'.
If anything will kill this game, its how out of touch the devs are with the feedback. That or someone on the dev team is a butthurt medium user and relies on that kinda rat BS to play, who knows.
All in all, I pray for the game's success, but I don't see that happening until balance is achieved

[queen rover]

Playerbase until recon medium meta is dealt with📉 📉 📉

[dusky yoke]

and until they fix the recoil bug and cheaters...

[waxen granite]

Im a level 40 whos already maxed the battle pass. I'm not going to play this game again until recon is gone or heavily nerfed. I played in the betas as well and I cant even tell you how disappointed I am in the direction their taking this game with recon. YAY!!! wall hacks and nukes. also shit anti cheat system. i feel good that ill never spend another dime on this game. even after they fix recon they dont deserve shit.

[fervent tree]

gEnJi meKanichAlLy skILLeD tHo! SucH hArd! VeRi!

@summer venture With this ranked sbmm you could use them to drop sbmm without obviously throwing....oh wait that would be kinda obvious hard throwing actually...

Edit: I have had another idea (omg 2 in one day, my tiny light brain gonna burst): if light stays shit, game probably dies in general... soo... Im Gona play all the crap light builds now to learn their basics better! Then if we get buffs, I might be ahead of the curve for using them effectively! No point learning medium better; it's Gona get nerfed a load, or game isn't worth playing anyway.

[placid valley]

that's because they nerfed recon medium at the same time. Buff it back, let defib having 100% health after revive. Buff AKM to replace Fcar, one shot doing 150 damage will be wonderful. And also please add new high cost skins, I have nowhere to spend my money.
ＳＴＯＰ being toxic, thanks

[left jetty]

Another day of asking for customizable crosshairs. The default options in game sucks.

[sturdy galleon]

this game is a straight fucking joke in terms of matchmaking theres no matchmaking dogshit game

[quick coyote]

Yes and they screwed up aim down sights on console. Like it's wildly different values now.

[grim steeple]

I just want a single center dot. Static in the middle, cyan with red outline.

[cosmic crystal]

I agree im done with this shithole game im getting matched only with silvers in diamond 4 fuck you embark

[daring fossil]

yeah, breach charge nukes aren't viable at all anymore (they weren't really to begin with because of the cooldown for the second charge and since lights could already not throw a barrel very far). a breach charge on a red canister can take a heavy down half health on direct hit (if it doesn't bounce off before the breach charge goes off), but if you miss and just hit with the breach charge, it's not worth it. a single breach charge on a fire barrel can be thrown about as far as a heavy can throw a fire barrel with 2 c4s. If you can set it off with a heavy directly on top of it, it almost kills him, and might kill him with fire damage, but you have to get REALLY close to pull that off. a fire barrel with 2 charges (if you wait for the cooldown) can be thrown like 2-3 feet.

[silk socket]

Please control your language; your opinion will hold more weight if it isn’t broken up by foul words.

[spiral merlin]

Mnk options on console please just put us in pc lobby’s to make it fair

[brisk patio]

try apex and say that

Embark really messed up aim assist though, like it needs to be fixed. It’s practically non existent atp. I dont even know why it was nerfed to begin with, it seemed fine but ig others thought differently or something, but please fix aim assist pwetty pwease 🥺👉👈

[tepid violet]

Did they ever buffed the Sniper? That thing is so hilarious bad😂

[oblique estuary]

anyone know how to fix tfla0002 error code?? login attempt failed

[rose robin]

I know the devs might be busy with fixing stuff rn but at least a little notice of what going to happen would be nice like a hey we see your concerns and are currently working on it and back again to say if PC can plug in a controller I should be able to use keyboard and mouse on console

[lost marsh]

Refresh the game i believe

[delicate narwhal]

Embark sandbox team: please buff smoke grenade. I want the smoke to emerge faster and last longer. Plzthx

[quick coyote]

Please buff FCAR so that I can idle while playing..... It's too exhausting

for a game so unique, how does something as lazy and unoriginal as wall hacks make it through this far.

[finite dew]

Give me single c4 nukes please, rpg should one shot or at least raise min damage, since it’s a fucking RPG. Make the c4 lighter not 10 gorlocks weight. Nerf recon, add recoil to fcar. Nerf xp54 ammo size, revert m11 changes but add lateral recoil. Revert mesh shield, give me 3 barricades, nerf shotgun range (bullet damages drop off). Revert movement changes, it was actually smooth now it’s clunky. Resign from your position

[nocturne falcon]

im so tired of recon please do something about it

[sharp belfry]

I've never had more fun playing this than when I just leave to find a match with less Mediums

[quick coyote]

Everyone else gets MMM and I'm here stuck with unranked LL on my team.

[waxen granite]

I hope embark enjoys the money they got from everyone because it isn't going to last at this current rate. I mean fix recon/remove it. I will never give these people another dime. As a Medium main since the betas, i would actually prefer to have two lights on my team then two mediums running recon. I don't want to play a game with cheaters.

[placid valley]

Now the game really comes to the final end.
RIP The Finals 2023-2024
I won't remember you anyway

[lost marsh]

The amount of cheaters in this game so quickly since release is ridiculous. Its not hard to see when light or heavy is able to track you without being detected by gadgets. I swear I’ve found players firing way faster then they should and getting only headshots while mid running away, like i know pc is precise but not missing a bullet out of a smg is like what. Really suck coz i did love this game but the try hards and hackers really make it hard to play now without wanting to stop.

I get wanting to be good but a game shouldn’t be played using every exploit under the sun lol, thats what ranked is for. I just wanna casually chill, break stuff and shoot stuff. Not be tea bagged by the flash as he goes on a 20 kill streak spawn killing. Is just sad.

End of the day a lot of stuff needs fixing like damage and stuff which i get but first things first is the amount of cheaters/hackers

[delicate narwhal]

Also, just to put this out there in the endless stream of complaining that is feedback:
This game is so much fun. Genuinely some of the most fun I've had in a shooter in years. The sandbox of this game feels great. Thank you for shotguns that feel like actual shotguns (1887 ftw). All in all, yall have created a very fun mix of game mechanics and gunplay. Great job!

[cosmic spear]

Any news on the fix to the aim assist settings not working?

[graceful tapir]

Outside of medium rants the last update really should have at the very least introduced more QoL features.

Like (an option for) switching back to your weapon after throwing grenades, more crosshair customizations and prioritizing static crosshairs that somehow didn't make it in the release already, better optimization to prevent or lessen crashes/frame drops, mouse acceleration toggles (From what I've heard on the reddit, regarding mouse smoothing from ue5), and fix bugs about clipping through objects, sometimes clipping could send you flying to your death, sometimes bugging out and not being able to sprint (only happened while I had the sword equipped).

Of course there are many bugs I may not be aware of, but cherish; We got a new skin.

[sour bane]

Recon is way too weak, buff it so it just has 100% uptime please

[rich fox]

its pretty hard to love this game rn…

which is sad to say considering it’s only been fully launched for maybe 2 months now.

at first everything felt so refreshing, then meta’s were made and now every game leaves me feeling burnt out instead.

hopefully the devs are able to make some positive changes before the player base reaches an all time low, because i genuinely do not want to see this game fail.

just tired of how repetitive everything has become…

[sacred compass]

Good game

[pseudo needle]

📢 Update Discussion Summary - The Finals: Recent Changes & Balances

🔍 Key Points from User Discussions

1️⃣ Light Class - Cloak Nerf

Mixed Opinions: Some players believe the nerf was necessary, while others argue it weakens an already frail class.
2️⃣ Medium Class - Overpowered

General Consensus: The medium class, especially its recon abilities and FCAR weapon, is considered too strong.
Community Suggestion: Calls for nerfs and reworks are prominent.
3️⃣ Underpowered Weapons/Abilities

Frustration: Lack of buffs for light and heavy weapons/abilities such as grapple, throwing knives, RPG, etc.
4️⃣ Defibrillator Issue - Medium Class

Complaints: The defibrillator is seen as overpowered.
Suggestions: Nerfing the revive health or turning it into a cooldown ability are popular ideas.
5️⃣ C4 and RPG Nerfs

Anger: Many feel these nerfs were excessive.
Community Voice: Calls to revert or lessen the nerfs are widespread.
6️⃣ Ranked Matchmaking Problems

Issues: High disparity in skill levels within ranked matches.
Need for Change: Calls for an overhaul of the ranked mode.
7️⃣ Cheating and Hacking

Major Concern: Growing problem affecting the enjoyment of the game.
Demand: Stronger and more effective anti-cheat measures.
8️⃣ Lack of Developer Communication

Unhappiness: Players desire more transparency regarding plans and reasons behind changes.
9️⃣ Overall Game Balance

Community Sentiment: The balance changes are perceived to be moving in the wrong direction, affecting the dynamism and fun of matches.
Urgent Request: Players are urging for reverts and reworks.

[cunning ravine]

What if lights were allowed to deflect rockets with the sword?

[thorn lance]

thanks for the words of wisdom hotsauce

[keen flare]

I might be dumb but for Xbox I can’t equip charms,stickers, and use animations

[copper surge]

Why is the currency maxed to 3k? I got every gear and 3k/3k so nothing to grind for anymore ... boring shiet

[next sedge]

This game isn't going to survive with 2 mediums running res and a heavy running the shields being the dominant meta. I said it before res should be a team fight recovery tool not a res my heavy and then he puts up shield while I heal him while he's invulnerable already thing. Again remove the invulnerability from the res

[placid valley]

No, all we need is to buff medium
BUFF FCAR
BUFF AKM
BUFF Defib
BUFF RECON
and the most important:
NERF EVERYTHING ELSE

[dusk cipher]

buff katana

[quick coyote]

actual shotguns
Go to live leak. No shooter has "actual" shotguns lmao.

[tiny wasp]

anyone else having an issue booting on pc and giving fatal error ?

[quick coyote]

everyone still complaining about medium? im not caught up, just got back from 2 H/H/L finals wins in plat

[crisp valve]

I find it mildly annoying to have to customize each loadout. I have 3 different Light loadouts, one for each specialty and equipment I like to use with whatever the specialty is - but I have to customize my character and guns from scratch on each loadout. Meanwhile there’s also a whole “Equipment” tab where you can access everything.

Can y’all make it so I can just customize my guns and character per class from there so I don’t have to mess with it every time I make a new class? Maybe have it so the Equipment page is your own custom defaults, but change it in the individual class if you want (but if you create a brand new loadout, your custom default selections stay put - say for example I always want the Card throwing knives equiped and never intend to revert to the regular knives)

[sacred sluice]

Game voice does not work

[grim steeple]

I think it's mostly the recon thing. Wall hacks on a short cd is pretty strong

[rotund rock]

anyone else having connection issues since the patch?

[quartz ridge]

so does the embark devs have anything planned for levels past level 40 and max level season pass? whats the point of dailies if there's no rewards anymore

[sharp belfry]

Some people have jobs and lives and lvl 40 is attainable even for people who do things besides play The Finals

[graceful hollow]

agree with all very heavily except maybe 4 and 5

[bleak coral]

ban fcar in quickplay

[strong escarp]

Recon should allow me to open up Counterstrike and give me wallhacks there.

[sweet badger]

Just playing since the new update and performance has really taken a hit and seems to be all over the place went from a steady 115 running dlaa to 60-117 sporadically.

[stiff marsh]

@rotund rock I’m getting tfla 0002 since the patch yesterday. Can’t play. Tried everything on Reddit and still won’t work

[twilit ginkgo]

Has anyone had the issue where you crash and your pc seems to more or less stop working? This just happened to me and I panicked, actually thought I might've gotten a virus.

[rocky verge]

Happened to my friend in a call, he verified game files and it seemed to have fixed

[limpid meteor]

improve anti cheat pls this shi unplayable rn

[summer venture]

we should put light in a wheelchair and remove an arm as well for good measure. give heavy the requirement for insulin shots otherwise itd die lets say about every 30 seconds. Also buff medium and make it have aimbot (as a utility), buff recon and make the Fcar have unlimited ammo, 100 damage per bullet (could increase later) and give it a slight recoil increase to make things a bit more balanced. Hats off embark, well done listening to your community 🤡

[gilded mesa]

🔥 A highlight systhem would be fire🔥

[quaint pendant]

This is super minor and extremely low priority, but it's just a small thing I've always enjoyed. When the round ends and you have that extra second or two to continue blasting, after the winner has been announced on screen... extend that slo-mo time by like 2 seconds and reduce the slo-mo effect slightly. Like I said, SUPER minor lmao, but I've always enjoyed getting that last "word" of the match when I'm in a fight with someone. I can't be the only one that enjoys those moments, right? It's just too short in this game. Give it to me! 😛

[flat shale]

the finals removed keyboard and mouse last update from Xbox so I made this song so the devs might listen https://clipchamp.com/watch/GrKWomuKTRx

[placid valley]

No, no, no. You guys don't understand the balance. We just bring back the states from light and heavy before the nerf, so they will stop complaining. Then we buff the hp of medium to 2500. and increase the damage b Fcar to 150 per bullet. How simple is it. Stop arguing meaningless shit

[formal kestrel]

let us hold the right click for the throwing knives

[graceful hollow]

bruh

[stiff marsh]

I’ve tried verifying game files and linking embark account to steam. I can’t play but my friend can access the game on his pc

[rose surge]

They didn't need to nerf the RPG, heavies were actually pretty balanced. It was lights that needed a slight buff. Nerfing the RPG isn't a buff for lights. That was so dumb, and why nerf cloak? It was good, but not OP. Buff the other light abilities. Maybe give light a little bit of faster health regen. I swear the game designers are on something else.

[languid ridge]

Every single update that’s been released lately has been in correspondence to the feedback in this chat?? Atleast the stuff that I’ve noticed.

Also recon sense isn’t as OP as you guys say it was. Calling it “legalized wall hacks” doesn’t change the fact that it was a balanced ability that countered lights invis and also ambushes.

[twilit badge]

Recon senses should be a pulse like the recon grenade, just, larger and longer

[crisp valve]

It literally counters the Light’s cloak by revealing them👌 that’s why I like the recon bit so much

[quick coyote]

I think dev dont have ability to manage this game.

• 🚫 Same cheater apear again today,60 kills , and its not automated ban.
• 🗜️ Skin was just combine 400 + 200 coins skin.
• 🖋️ Balance is just change value. No rework.
• 🔫 Unknown bug keep apears. Bullet spread? Why?
• etc
  Dont know why dev keep go wrong side.
  Player count is awful now.

Wish they awake and become great game again. 🙏

[cerulean dust]

they have the ability to manage they're game, the game is still very much not finished and its an impossible expectation to assume they will fix every "issue" you have

[muted star]

Can anything be done about random teammates leaving quick cash and bank it early? There's no penalty and I have teammates leave just because we're not absolutely mopping the lobby. The slightest resistance and they leave. I know that there's a penalty for leaving tournaments. Can that be applied to quick cash and bank it as well?

[rustic rampart]

how do you guys feel about the breach charge having the same amount of weight and thus lack of being able to throw while attatched to objects as a C4 while only have like 1/5 the hit radius?

[crude brook]

ez defib nerf: let people pick up others death totems, but having some items in your loadout takes this ability away
I dont know what those items would be though

[placid valley]

True, fking buff Recon please. Too weak, too useless. Mediumn has the lowest usage in the game, far behind the other two. Please BUFF it.
🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻

[olive crystal]

can we please fix the cross play glitch i turned cross play off and still getting in pc lobby’s

[tropic wasp]

Nerf the God dam medium class with that scar gun. So stupid

[teal marsh]

im 100% right in that the best nerf for cloak is reducing the invis effect while moving 🗣️

[naive flicker]

🪧 Remove AA changes! Console will die!🪧

Possible soutions to replace the aim assist patch:

1. They disable crossplay entirely and have 2 different builds of the game. This would be a nuclear option not recommended.

2. They buff MKB users by giving them bullet magnetism. Buff instead of nerf. That's always better.

3. They can filter inputs on PC. Forcing controller PC players to play with console or have they're own subdivision on PC.

4. Have it so when console players enable crossplay they have this patches current aim assist. When disabled have pre patch aim assist

[waxen granite]

Embark not even saying a word to the recon back lash is insane. They will not be getting my money ever again. I had a lot of respect for them since the betas but having people run around with recon sense made me realize that theres someone who needs to be fired honestly. That person who thought of recon has never played a fps in their life.l and shouldn’t be working on a game

[rocky verge]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-18178013888257763473

[languid ridge]

Idk ab that second part, but I do know that they nerfed it a little to hard. I didn’t even think it needed a nerf in the first place, it is sad how much they’re listing to the whiny PC players in here

[hallow ruin]

I suggest that they remove wall hacks from the game, as it detrimental and shit. They can do this by selecting the part of the game code that codes for wall hack and delete it.
I am okay to have 2 class abilities for medium.

[graceful hollow]

bro legal wallhacks is just a feature bro

[sour bane]

lol MMM is straight cancer in ranked. Even if you kill 2, the one remaining just Defibs a med, then he defibs the other. Congrats Embark. You did it. Then every Med has perfect info about where you are, where you're rotating to, etc

Embark says they will always optimize for fun? This is fun man. I'm having so much fun as Med Recon using the same shit as everyone else, knowing the same information as everyone else!

[plucky veldt]

The person in charge of Recon Senses is clearly a spy from another company.

Because game soon dead. and i don't play anymore.

Embark Make sure you fire him.

[onyx veldt]

Please bring back KBM. Whoever uses it put them against other pc players. PLEASE

[plain tartan]

Bro wy do som hawe recoil and some not. I shoot one bullet and suddenly i sniff christs ass 😂

[keen harness]

Of course the dude using the shotguns is having fun, when everyone else is complaining about people like you

[muted star]

Doesn't COD restrict matches to using the same inputs rather than by platform? Meaning that unless you're in a party with someone who uses a different input, you will only go up against people that have the same input

[quick coyote]

Fix the dagger hitboxes and make backstab a hold mechanic. Thank you for reading, feel free to hire me.

[astral abyss]

Some good ideas there but the aim assist of this current patch is not acceptable or competitive enough for crossplay, period. M&K players are absolutely dominating controller players right now for the most part - which I'm sure embark will see once they "check the stats".

[tiny mist]

FIX THE RANKED QUEUES

[placid valley]

No, you can't ask for a nerf just because everyone is using the thing you don't like. This is definitely the most perfect balance I have ever seen in the history of games. Every player has the same ability. It is a pure skill competition. But occasionally we are still interrupted by some players who insist on using trash class. Need more nerf to those two for sure.

[cosmic spear]

Yeah it's beyond terrible right now. As in its not working as intended at all. Aim slowdown doesn't work currently. There is ZERO aim assist at all while ads and only very very little while hip firing. It was just fine before this patch after they removed all the Kbm players faking inputs

[cosmic pewter]

Yeah I agree with this. If course more future balances will be needed but this is fantastic

[timber iris]

Maxed level and still 50/50 to spend money on this game since blatant cheaters still untouchable on this game boosting their friends like theres no tomorrow mostly and always China players. I dont care about the buff or nerfed just cheater ruined the most Please complexity ban who being involved with cheater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg7qG6ITa1c&ab_channel=AceedzBurn

[limber folio]

Balance updates are taking too long

[timid reef]

Ranked takes way too fucking long, setting aside 30-40 minutes for one ranked game is insane. This is a FPS, not League lmao

[jagged vector]

Nerf the sword

[late cargo]

Counter Strike or Valorant are also FPS and takes longer

[plain tartan]

And the bullet traicing ? You ned to be exakt on target to hit the contestant

[rustic rampart]

...right

[faint vector]

good update

[unborn tangle]

add way to promote someone else to party leader

[rocky dragon]

I just had a match where the first cash box got stuck under the map so no one could pick it up.
(also, why is there no way of reporting bugs in-game)

[sour bane]

Voice chat has been broken for me the past few days....

[mellow gull]

add the ability to connect a keyboard and mouse on consoles

[thin nexus]

medium 3 stack is just stupid. this game is just trash now honestly. until medium gets a nerf this game will continue to suffer

[late cargo]

check #📧┇contact-us there is a support link, click on the bottom right corner of the website

[sterile marsh]

Jesus I feel like I just dove into a salt pit 10m deep.... the game is brand new... give it time. 🙂

[frigid moss]

ye :>

[daring fossil]

I only played to do my dailies (most days) and I maxed out everything like 2 weeks ago. Game needs more progression. Between the lack of progression, and the terrible state of the game currently, there's not much reason to play. I'm going to go play just to meme because im bored

[thick forge]

@daring fossil yes sure it's cause you like the game period

[quick coyote]

How come th Cl does 45 dmg in the time the fcar does 280?

region lock china

[pulsar flower]

Nerf fcar and rework recon senses so that its just a ping every 5 or so seconds

[elder plover]

Every time you update the game EASY ANTICHEAT has a fit and I get the "easyanticheat not installed" error. I have reinstalled, verified, restarted, excluded from my antivirus. Explored community posts. Nothing, its been 3days now and I cannot get it to work. This is the only game I have this issue with and not the only game I play that uses EasyAntichest

[gaunt perch]

DELETE RECON SENSES I'm really getting pissed off always going up against FCAR players with wall hacks, this combination alone makes it impossible to play light competitively, let alone all the other stuff in the game that counters light

I'm a little late to the light class as I've been playing the others more but holy hell I can't believe you lights can have any fun on this class

[placid valley]

Yes, I can't agree with you more. Stop wasting time on making those non Fcar skins, we are not using those shit. Focus on making Fcar skins because it's the only weapon we use.

[twilit leaf]

Can we make it so if you shoot a gas mine the gas doesn't pop?

[quick coyote]

Defib Conga Line M M M

[quick coyote]

easy 2 heavy 1 light sweep

[cosmic pewter]

So then play quick play. Y'know quick is even in the name.

[opaque patio]

nerf medium why do they have all the good utility abiltiies and guns

[rocky verge]

Add a “get funky” emote pretty please?

[green bison]

sword really needs to be more clear about when the right click is ready, 99% of the time when i release it after it's already gone all the way out it just doesn't work, cancels, and i die because i didn't get the dash off

[daring fossil]

I do like the game, except currently it's in a completely terrible state and I lost all faith in the devs, but since I maxed out progression and with the increase in misguided nerfs, I basically stopped playing altogether. I think I've played 4 matches all week. There's no reason to do contracts anymore because all the XP goes into the nether. My comment about going to play to meme cuz im bored is literally that. I'm fucking bored, im going to go play some stupid ass meme build and just fuck around, good luck rest of my team mates.

@fervent tree well mostly it was just cuz my friends weren't playing and the solo experience is usually pretty terrible. If my friends were on, then I would play more games than just for dailies

[thick forge]

find more friends then

[sudden spire]

Why is the 10 Second timer never synced correctly in Quick Cash

[burnt pawn]

Still no Mouse and Keyboard support on PS5. I’m done playing this game. An FPS competitive game without MK support on consoles is doomed

[sterile marsh]

I got issues with audio in this game: sounds that come from behind in surround (like when you ping) and the female painting sound even when you play a masculine character (esp heavy lol)

[wanton heron]

More Solo Bank It issues: Sometimes my mouse goes to my second screen or the game somehow goes ALT TAB from full screen w/o me entering it and I am stuck in camera mode and can not continue my game. I also keep getting in lobbies with trolls that run around killing people, ignoring coins, and vaults, and losing the game. I see no point in playing with people who have no intention of playing to win at all. What is up with this matchmaking, I win a lot but when these people are in my lobby I can barely reach the top 5.

[daring fossil]

been reporting this for weeks.

@fervent tree same, I found my own fun before 1.5, just not as often as if my friends were on. I don't care about stats at all, my stats are absolute shit (im a light main after all). I just played cuz I loved the gameplay as a grapple light since the alpha.

[twilit leaf]

Remove recon senses and this game is 10x better

[sour bane]

why does voice chat not work at all?

[green bison]

i honestly can't tell if that's an exploit or a hack, i don't think you can one shot mediums with sword no matter what though. But for real other than the aim assist change, this game has had so many bad changes it isn't even funny

[stiff marsh]

Posting again, has anyone dealt with the game not connecting at launch on PC? Error TFLA0002. I don’t see many people talking about it.

[cerulean dust]

make it so that the cashout box finishes up when you hold it to the max time. bug keeps happening where I hold it for even longer than such

[waxen granite]

Remove recon

[graceful hollow]

how the hell do they nerf cloak again 💀 it was already trash since release

[sharp citrus]

It's like yall don't want console players fuck the aim assist.... then you change the sens.... you expect us to keep having to get used to new sensitivities bc shitty pc players bitch... well enjoy your game dying and for the thousandth time rework recon idiots...

[sterile marsh]

Loop, good question about voice chat. The yellow icons are now gone so you dont know whos in voice or not. At least you can press the socia key to see while the game loads... but the yellow icons are gone now... sad

[exotic wave]

Sensitivity change was an accident you know?

[cold pilot]

REMOVE RECON

[plain tartan]

There is a lot to do and fix and finnese in this game but its my new favorit

[daring fossil]

you can quick melee immediately after a sword stab for extra damage, this might one-shot a medium, I don't know for sure though. but there was a cheat heavies were using to one-shot people with sledge from across the map and then after embark "tried" to fix it, I saw them one-shotting people from outside the sledge range but still within 10 meters, and someone else reported being one-shotted (over 400 damage) multiple times by the sword today, so probably the same cheat.

@graceful hollow it was hardly a nerf, can still cloak and decloak to your hearts content with no cooldown in between, it just costs more cooldown time to activate it now. cloak was cringe anyways.

@sharp citrus they fucked the sens up unintentionally by adding a separate value for zoom sensitivity, it's double the actual shown value, apparently if you lower it a bunch the aim assist will work "properly" again (so ive heard)

[green bison]

sword can't normally do 280 damage in one hit whether it's using a quick melee or not, since right click does 140 damage i'm guessing there's either a bug or a hack that just lets you use right clicks at the same time, probably similar to the ghost slash bug where you can use a left click while charging up your right click at the same time

[graceful hollow]

yes, but there was literally 0 reason for another nerf after it was already nerfed on release. It isnt even the most used light ability, and it's also useless in any recon game

[viral fern]

We need an option "only join new matches" because I'm tired of being put into matches right before it ends

[cosmic pewter]

But then everyone would select this and games wouldn't get filled

[placid valley]

Just stop people from joining a match started after 5 or 10 mins. Sadly the devs have no idea what they are doing. Broken game

[plain tartan]

No. If u whant keyboard and mous go on pc

[sour bane]

END MY LIFE with MMM in ranked, holy cow I've never played a more cancerous comp in a ranked game in a long tiem

[quick coyote]

I love teams anger when I pick light in rank.
Im platinum 4 safe zone now🤡

[daring fossil]

my stats are even worse, 126 wins 319 losses (although im hearing now there is a bug that even if you win it gives you a loss on your stats, even if it properly counts the win and im inclined to believe it because 126+319=445 but it says I have 446 matches played) with 2541k and 3452d. Mostly light main, but if I queue into a match already with a light, I'll play medium revolver/defib/heal beam, and if I was forced to play heavy for contracts I played sledge/goo gun (what im currently playing just for fun). i dont even play ranked, I wanted to just for the v9S skin, but I dont want to solo queue ranked and my friends are just casuals. If we're gonna chat though, we should move to #⚡┇the-finals-chat

[cursive tangle]

Crashed from angel script. Rejoined game and won, got suspended for deranking and lost a bunch of elo. considering just not playing ranked until bigs fixed

[swift crater]

hevy broken plz fix, too OP

[cosmic spear]

No game has that. That's why most people on console use Xims. Only way they have that is if they also have input based matchmaking which this game also doesn't have. And if they added that now with aim assist currently not working, it would be a pub stomp everytime you played in none crossplay lobbies

[robust zealot]

give passives to specialaztions make medium have a faster regen time while using healing beam 👍

[summer venture]

i dont think anyone in here agrees with you

[quick coyote]

those fools nerfed invis, which was trash, nerfed grapplehook which was trash and no one ever used, and buffed literally a recon wallhack ingame with NERFING every single weapon except FCAR without even fixing problem with working FREE REWASD CHEAT AIMBOT lmao after TWO security patches

[stone aurora]

I've almost had 3 wins today each time at the last fucking second dude storms in with a sword or smg smh while I'm deposting, this time it was literally the last nanosecond I thought I had it damnmmnnn @quick coyote I honestly kinda liked invis the way it was idk how to improve upon it but tbh I think it's just useless now or about as good as the grenade invisble throwable thingy

[outer pagoda]

dont forget making everything oneshot light to the point is actually so terrible to play, get caught lacking ONCE and you have 0.5% chances to survive

[tranquil ore]

We should be able to save our skin loadout as a set to put on other builds! It's annoying putting the same things on others

[placid valley]

all the skins ugly af anyway

[frail viper]

I still say that the rpg direct impact should be able to do more than 140

[sour bane]

love playing against mmm wall hacks all ranked games 🙂 thanks embark!

[gentle ferry]

Wtf is going on?????
Did anyone ever see that before?

[hallow ruin]

He is sleepin

[brittle temple]

dm me if you wanna play be chill and have fun

[waxen granite]

Hey its me again just wanted to say you should remove recon thanks.

[winter laurel]

Fuck recon, and fuck you for using it. fuck ranked and fuck this game. going back to cod. or anything else remotely fair really.🤮

[zealous apex]

cod lol

[quick coyote]

FIX AIMBOT, reWASD,SELF REVIVE CHEAT, KILL AURA, NOCLIP, embark what are you doing, stop nerfing everything, just fix the freaking game!!!!!!!

[quick coyote]

Leave the little guy alone, he's taking a nap.

[rancid skiff]

Flamethrower may need more buffs. I am enjoying it but Lights and Mediums will just run at me through the flames and out dps me, winning the fight. I feel you should not be able to simply shrug off the direct damage of a flamethrower at such close range.

[ashen hatch]

He must be tired

[plush hare]

All need is performance patch 🥺

[wise flame]

ps2 textures and lower polygon models mode update

[marsh iron]

voice chat is glitchy

[languid ridge]

Y’all are trying to make this game another standard clone fps game, anything new and different makes you guys short circuit, I can understand maybe a nerf but complete removal of it is such a bad idea.

[waxen granite]

yeah thanks for your opinion but its ass so imma have to pass big dog thanks though for sharing

[errant fern]

THE CURRENT STATE OF LIGHT CLASS

• I do agree with the targeted gadgets (although I'd rather see some reworks rather than lazy number changes)
• But you need to compensate for them already. The balance will always feel horrible until Light class can compete in the Ranked Tournament mode. You have only 3 classes in the game goddamnit, all of them have to be playable at the top level.

[quick coyote]

Agree, doesn't need to go but it needs serious changes. If it stays the same way then it does need to go though. If it worked something like how the sonar grenade works, that might be fine. But a straight up ESP toggle is not fun or fair in anyway. Or healthy for any kind of competitive play.

[woeful arch]

❓ Could we get a new character slot for Odilia? Finally unlocked level 97 of the Battle Pass today but won't be using the new skin as I'm attached to how I dressed up/designed my 6 other chars. New char = new slot, kinda make sense. Or make more slots available with VR maybe, I'd not mind I'm maxed out on those anyways.

[quick coyote]

2 grapple or faster recharge, glitch 1 charge bug goes off on impact and dash able to break glass, and saving momentum in midair would be avesome, also imagine katana instead with slash dash instead of poking it in one point

[rustic nova]

nerf defib cuz when they running 3 medium it makes me want to quit the game

[placid valley]

No, buff defib. Didn't you notice that the devs don't give you a fuck.

[gleaming marsh]

love the only-medium-is-viable meta rn, totally not ruining the entire light and heavy class and the whole gameplay experience at all, why dont we just delete light at this point, why have a class the is so weak its not even considerable in any comp.
"lets nerf the 2 more unique classes so we have a more stale gameplay cuz thats better" ????

[pulsar needle]

Maybe we should make additional victory conditions if no one has 20k?
Literally just now, in a quick match, the enemy team, originally secured in first place, just took and hid a vault under textures. There was no way to get in or out of it, it was under the indestructible ground.
If time ran out and the round ended, they would be the winner.
And they were.

Or, as an option for Ranked, we should make it so that if the Vault is untouched for a minute or two, have it teleport to a random spot on the map from underground .
Or, as an option for Ranked, we need to make it so that if the Vault isn't touched for a minute or two after opening it, then have it teleport to a random spot on the map from underground.

Well or whatever else you can do, maybe there is a way to determine if an object is behind a texture or not.

[finite dew]

Ruining the heavy class so that it takes skill to play, like only diamond+ are good heavies (I’m d2 heavy)

/ invincibility needs to be stopped, but also the flashbang you get when respawning

[languid ridge]

They def need to remove invincibility after defib, cause wtf is the point in that, but maybe they could make the charge up slower or something

[swift horizon]

who broke the goo canister?? why it glitch into floors in buildings

[errant fern]

• I think they mostly need to just give Light more and Heavy less HP, the gap is too big at the moment.
• They can nerf overperforming guns later, but now Light just doesn't have enough health to be playable.
• Also recon senses, mines and turrets basically make the class unplayable.

[daring fossil]

they just need to half the regen time on lights so we can hit and run and return to the fight faster without dying

[vagrant raptor]

PLEASE STOP WITH CASHOUT ONLY CHALLENGES

i’m so tired of not being able to complete all 8 for the 4k xp. this is like the 6th week that its been an option. i dont want to play cashout. i like bank it.

even if i did play cashout the challenge sucks because if they stop capping it for even a millisecond before in kill them then i get no progress.

[placid valley]

New Game Mode:

1. Find 20 Light players & 5 Medium player
2. Nerf Light players to the ground
3. Try to let Medium shoots the rest light players
4. See how long can Light players run & stay alive
5. Count who kills the most lights

[plucky torrent]

I would love a 10 medium versus 1 light mode it would be a lot of fun

[opaque patio]

like other people ahve stated the invincibility after defib is jsut stupid so many fights have been lost due to a one hp player getting a defib off then hiding behind the invulnerable person

[undone belfry]

Yeah same. And the thing is I dont understand why it gets so repetitive for me.. like I only do dailys at this point and quit.

Counter strike has alot less content in terms of things Happening ingame for example, but it doesnt feel repetitive at all somehow. Atleast for me.

[daring fossil]

something like a zombies game mode with 1 HML team against like 20 lights with daggers would be fun, this game needs wacky game modes

[rancid skiff]

What paint huffer thought Tasers have a longer range than flamethrowers?

[languid ridge]

I think everyone who has played this can agree that this game needs multiplayer practice range.

[keen scaffold]

Nope

[waxen mountain]

can we separate some of the body arts? body art vs face art?

[deft merlin]

RECON NEEDS TO BE REWORKED!

Gathered and brainstormed by a few people in the community, if Embark REALLY needs this Specialization in the Game it should be reworked into an Active Gadget rather than the current Togglable Specialization that just gives you straight up ESP.

Give it to Light by replacing the Thermal Vision, cause as that gadget stands its currently overshadowed by the rest of Light's kit.

The gadget would be a camera or a device of some kind with limited usages that recharge. Say 3 uses and they recharge. Instead of constantly seeing players position, it should be a ping of about 50-75m that marks the location they were pinged in. You can't shoot while having it out as well.

I think this would both simultaneously help to lessen the current Medium meta and give light a reconnaissance/intel gathering role since its already a roamer playstyle, Recon right now is a specialization that just promotes a very solo, deathmatch playstyle in a Team Base Objective oriented game that actively is killing the games sense of identity in creative freedom and player expression

Also I forgot, ought to replace it with a waaaay better and more team oriented specialization, cause in the current meta it's way less objective based and it’s so common for teams to ignore objective and just focus on kills

[tiny ermine]

something like the apex firing range

[ebon peak]

Yes,, because in this game death is not so important,,, but in seige, hunt showdown, Cs2, death is important and the tactical elements is a sure short icing on cake,,, in finals it is run - shoot - die,

[eternal lodge]

Hi im trying to link my steam account to a new embark account but when i got to the embark site it sayus it cannot handle the request

[gleaming marsh]

I love playing against at least 1 triple medium for the past 3hrs. THANK YOU EMBARK. GREAT BALANCING CHANGES, TOTALLY NOT STALE META AT ALL 🫡

[tiny grail]

I think custom games is an important step to have happen. Helps test mechanics and do some manual matchmaking

[void scarab]

It's a stun gun, not a tazer.. big diff there

[rancid skiff]

Flamethrower follow up. The flames visually clearly appear to go dramatically further than the effective range of the weapon. I begin to suspect the troglodytes working on this game simply adjusting its damage hit box settings and it did not occur to make the other parts match up when they reduced the range.

[narrow salmon]

me (gold3) and two friends (silver3) just played three diamond 1 players in the finals... they need to fix this shit bruh. we played the #22 player #169 player and #521 players in the world

[undone belfry]

Yeah, I played all those games long enough and youre kinda right. Hunt showdown is definitely a secret gem.

Dont know how one can make the finals more fun except balancing though.

It needs some New gamenodes... I enjoy those "final" rounds of ranked/unranked because it's a 3v3, it feels really competitive without a 3rd Party and intense.

Maybe something like a 6v6 Mode could make this up and add alot of Chaos into it. But well one would need to Balance it. Gl trying to beat 3mediums with turrets and 3 heavys with shield with a random team includung lights lol.

Maybe also a Mode where destruction dmg boost is always active. So one can enjoy the Real Standout point the finals has to Offer = destruction!

I once played on Seoul and the whole big building with the glasses got taken down by a team of 3 heavys with sledgehammer. It changed the map so drasticly. It was so chaotic and i loved that.

But sadly thats like very rare to Happen again :/

[daring fossil]

stun gun doesn't have a 12 meter range, 2 maybe

[sudden tangle]

Devs rly don't care about the health of the competitive scene. So sad, i was hoping this game would become my new main competitive game but the focus is obviously on casual play.

[north briar]

Feels pretty competitive idk

[rose slate]

PLS ADD ABILIOTY TO PUT DECIMAL IN SENS OPTION I PLAY ON HIG H DPI AND IM FORCED TO PLAY ON SENS I DONT PLAY ON WTF!

[alpine jungle]

Sorry if my grammar is not good this is how it is and only what I know so thank you if you read and understand it if you have questions plz feel free and ask. 65K players thats what this game has the past 24 hours ons steam and that does not include console. Ya know... The most terrible thing about this game or any game that imo is the most unenjoyable thing is the way matchmaking works in games. The ppl that make these FPS competitive team games they hear of feedback about skill based matchmaking. But I feel like SBMM is not the issue in games. Its more of players who are solo who play solo by themselves they hit find a match and they get put against sometimes their skill level but majority of the time higher skill level... But even play vs a higher skill level there is nothing wrong with that and that imo is not the issue in ppl not enjoying matchmaking.

Most the time when playing solo/by yourself you are gonna match up against other teams that are in the discords fully stacked as a 3 man squad regardless of rank imo this is the issue that makes solo/alone players that find a match alone makes the game unenjoyable for them. Whats the average experience most the time when running solo. 1. You get team members worse than your skill level. 2. They dont use a mic/callout. Yes I understand ppl can go in the discord and do lfg and find team members to play with but this should not be something players have to do. The game should match players like myself vs other solo players who queued up solo. The entire lobby should be only ppl who are solo queue hit find a match by themselves. Watch how much more enjoyable this would make the solo experience when finding a match. Sureee you got a solo mode but lets be real here... Ppl want to play the real mode in this game. Ppl queue up ranked not to lose... Ppl set goals to hit the highest rank but how do you all expect them to do that when playing a team game solo by themselves vs players who are teamed up in discords or etc came in as a party of 3 and are making callouts/strats etc.

What I would add to the game- Solo queued matchmaking. Match teams vs teams and put solo queued players vs and with other solo queued players.

[abstract wolf]

BUG ON MATCHMAKING

so after the update 1.5.0 i've been a lot queued up with pc player, the problem is i already turned off the crossplay on the settings, after the aim assist nerf, then removing the MnK on console, then i play 3 stacked quick cash always got queued up with pc player, what worse than that? against a MnK player with our aim assist got nerfed so hard

[waxen granite]

Remove recon from the game good night

[sand dome]

maybe there are no console players online

[shell jacinth]

Get better at the game goodnight🫡

[opaque patio]

youre right a better player just wouldnt show up on recon wallhacks

[mystic smelt]

The reward for diamond sucks, could we get like a diamond mask or something?

[subtle oak]

Fix crossplay please.
Controller without aim assist vs kbm = unfair

[graceful hollow]

it's gonna be a diamond weapon skin every time, that's what the last 3 were as well

[terse slate]

Possible rework for recon senses so it becomes a real support ability:
Activating Recon Senses "shares" what the player sees to the team members. Meaning if I activate it enemies will be highlighted that I see with the blank eye. Not through walls but invis will be shown too.
This would push working together and remove the spawnkills and similiar.
With Recon Senses you would need to become a real scout then. High Points to overview much for example.

[quick coyote]

We need a skin colour slider.

[tardy pond]

Recon Nerf Idea:
When recon is used you can see all enemies through walls BUT all enemies can see you through walls as well

[exotic slate]

☝️

[opaque patio]

you do realize youre complaining about people leaving feedback in a feedback channel right. also a good medium with recon is really hard to beat in a fight

[rose slate]

honest to god great changes for the game. hope to see these implemented moving forwards. big ups lad!!!

[dreamy latch]

Yes.

[grizzled wyvern]

Genuinely don’t understand people who complain about aim assist. My best guess is that it’s pc players who just aren’t skilled with the hard to master mouse and keyboard controls. I can understand that aim assist on guns such as shotguns needed a nerf, but removing aim assist altogether in a fast paced shooter was not the right move. The overall aim assist nerf feels like a bit much as well. I’m sure Embark ruining my sensitivity didn’t help but ever since the update I just can’t compete with the MLG pc gods. People who don’t wanna ignore facts know that a great pc player easily wins a matchup against a good console player with aim assist 80% of the time. ROLL BACK SOME OF THE AIM ASSIST NERFS A BIT. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

[summer venture]

We want balance yk don't want light to be TOO useful or be medium to be underpowered as they are now. Gotta be realistic ya feel? I propose that we actually remove guns from light in general, probably more BALANCED that way

[bold tendon]

Is it maybe a good idea to divide the feedback channel in different sections so you can better keep the overview, because I definitely lose the overview here? Idea maybe something like:

1. Contestant classes
   a)Light
   b)Medium
   c)Heavy
   d)Maybe ideas for a new class

2. Weapons/Gadgets
   a)Weapons(existing)
   b)Weapons(ideas for new)
   c)Gadgets(existing)
   d)Gadgets(ideas for new)

3)Maps
a)Seoul
b)Monaco 2014
c)Skyway Stadium
d)LasVegas 2032
e)New Map Ideas

4. Game mode
   a)Existing game mode
   b)New game mode

5)...

[subtle oak]

Aim assist doesn’t matter that much to me. If nobody else has it on console it’s fair. I just don’t want to be matched up against kbm because that’s just unfair.

[sly sonnet]

THis ranked matchmaking is going to make me quit this game. Ive struggled to climb to Gold 3 and i keep getting teamed up with Bronze of every rank and Silver 3s...

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[ebon peak]

And the sound you hear when you land a perfect headshot in hunt showdown is exceptional,,,, i doubt finals can achieve that level of immersion because of its core gameplay design,

[sage sapphire]

More achievements pls
We need more drip (tattoos, shoes, facial hair, wristwear)
Crowd chants and banners for teams
More "sponsored gear" the Holtow smg is really cool, seeing more items like that would be cool.

[vocal cave]

the ranked rewards are kinda lackluster

[woeful juniper]

Controller has no Aim Assist anymore? That was kind of a rushed move instead of nerfing it, and yes, I get sick of KBM too, and I use Controller on PC, I’ve been noticing lots of KBM players.
(Also Console is allowed to do KBM iirc, very unfair imho)

[placid valley]

Buff FCAR ❤️❤️❤️

1. Community Feedback: Positive player responses highlight FCAR's appeal. Strengthening FCAR would boost overall player satisfaction.

2. Gameplay Balance: Contributes to a diverse in-game environment by fostering a more inclusive range of player preferences.

3. Tactical Significance: Predictable and reliable weapon behavior adds stability to the overall gaming experience.

[quick coyote]

REMOVE DEFIB. REMOVE RECON SENSES.

[gloomy wraith]

Recon senses yes defib no(👇yes) notice how its always ninja saying no and also when dahel are they gonna Fix the aim assist bug and the Bloom bug and shit shouldnt take that long tbh

[fallen mortar]

yall cry babies

[plucky veldt]

delete recon senses. if don't? game dead.

[quick coyote]

Console cannot use keyboard and mouse. They removed it in the patch.

[hearty hound]

Optimize the game

[drifting thistle]

feel like there a shadow nerf on SA1216 damage reduce

[exotic slate]

-remove heavy from the game and ban any player with more than 3 hours of heavy playtime
-remove controller support
-give fcar 50 mag

[fleet meadow]

remove EAC, it doesn't work and ruining game lol (cheaters not stopping and performance sucks)

[blissful crescent]

Why the hell are nukes still a thing

[wary hazel]

-remove medium from the game and ban any player who ran triple medium more than twice in any match type

[blissful bridge]

Embark.

Please don't remove recon senses or change it's function.

I don't want to play a game where all the gadgets are weak versions of themselves that debilitate the player in some way.

I really enjoy the gameplay style of this game, it's flow and it's equipment in all classes.

The biggest problem with recon is FCAR+Aim Assist being used with it.

The balance doesn't lie with nerfing recon.

The same was with invis+double barrel.

That meta has disappeared thanks to the Aim Assist patch and people finding out recon can counter invisibility.

The balance doesn't lie in nerfing equipment but balancing around the meta strategies as a whole.

[placid valley]

Buff Defib 💪💪💪

Player Input: Positive feedback emphasizes the Defib's distinctive utility. Strengthening the Defib would markedly enhance overall player satisfaction.

Gameplay Harmony: Enhances the in-game dynamics by providing a powerful strategic tool for team revival. Fosters a more inclusive range of player strategies, contributing to a balanced and engaging gameplay experience.

Strategic Depth: Augmenting the Defib's capabilities amplifies its impact in team dynamics. The ability to swiftly revive teammates and grant temporary invincibility introduces nuanced tactical considerations, enriching the overall gaming experience.

[burnt shell]

True

[dark laurel]

We should be able to one tap those c4 cannisters, even after 2 nerf it's still overpowered.. heavy take no real risk to play with that and they have too much to win

[vocal cave]

I mean, it really isn't overpowered anymore, the o2 barrel is the only viable one, with all the other ones u will most likely just blow urself up

[gloomy wraith]

Another player who has no game sense and needs walhacks🧐

[quick coyote]

PC players saying aim assist right now is cool while all console players are literally burning in hell.

[grizzled wyvern]

I probably shouldn’t have replied to your comment lol. I was speaking more generally about aim assist in general. Totally get that they need to fix crossplay!

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for grapple hook to have two charges

[scenic idol]

please please fix rank matchmaking 😦 , nobody wants to play against or with players on a completely different skill level than them.

[rose slate]

game update:
if heavy kills itself with rpg make suire to also put a bunch of stress on their pc and blow that up aswell.
remove the recoil on all the guns but only for pc so aim assist isnt broken.
make a mobile version with tilt controls so i can play on the go, i dont have enough money for a steam deck so can you make it run well on my iphone 7?
make it so stun gun one shots like csgo , but nerf the range by 80%.

[next raptor]

🤡

[lusty grotto]

I think rcon should be removed from the game, there can't be an official wallhack as that in itself unbalances the game. solution is to change it for another type of skill.

[exotic slate]

horrible suggestion. my feedback is genuine and comes from the heart and i do believe that making these changes will improve the quality of the game.

all of these suggestions regard the same issue.
-heavy is a crutch for people who cant aim
-controller is a crutch for people who cant aim
-fcar 20 mag is a nerf to people who CAN aim

why are we walking over the people who actually matter in the gaming space. good players. the people who strive to excel are being shot down from the gods. this is not okay.

we should be EMBRACING the loyal dedicated members of this community and helping them to succeed in their hobby/pasttime/career.

as a matter of fact buff ak damage and give both fcar and ak the ability to wallbang

[wanton heron]

My first deposit in Solo Bank It did not show up, I had 3000 from a vault and 100 for a kill.

[trim cloud]

Hi, I would like to bring for your attention quite important issue that i've discovered yesterday in the ranked game mode.
I with my friend (we play in stack) are average silver1/gold4 players. Important to highlight here that we are not fast climbing ones with huge MMR that do not represent our rank, we are typical 'hardstuck' players.

So yesterday 5 games in a row in lobby there was always one team that been destroying others with fight that been not even close. Ofc typical assumptions was that they are cheating. Luckily 3 of those teams been streaming (had twitch name as nickname), so i've decided to have a look at their streams.

To my big surprise those 3 teams that in different games been destroying whole lobby were diamond ranked players TOP 500 and above.
I do not understand what top 500+ team doing in S1/G4 lobby? And sadly that was not one or two games, as i confirmed 3 of 5 that they are high ladder diamond teams.

To be honest I see here quite big risk:

1. It was very unpleasant experience for whole lobbies in those games to play against high ladder teams that are VERY above their current rank and most important skill lvl.
2. It is unfair and makes climbing in ladder very hard and unpleasant.
3. it is unfair against other high ladder player that do grind ladder in competitive environment, as those teams gain free win basically against low elo players.

I do understand where it may come from -> lower que time, but the frequency and rank range that it takes is overkill IMO.
I would prefer to sit in que 1-2 min longer and play a nice competitive game, than have a game in ~1.5 min and afterwards being hostage for 15min in game where whole lobby just suffer due to huge skill difference

[blissful bridge]

I also want to add that ranked and casual both play differently from each other.

Ranked is filled with players maximizing there chance to win. So they always choose the best optimal loadouts.

Balancing for ranked concerns will throw the game into an unending mess of balancing issues because of the way it's played.

The game needs to be balancing around the experience and style it's trying to deliver.

There are far more popular titles that have been ruined by constant nerfs and buffs stemming from the competitive fanbase.

[fossil walrus]

First off a lot of this is false. Mnk players don't beat AA 80% of the time. Any Apex, COD or Halo statistics you'll see that the opposite is true. The problem with the way AA works is that it reacts much faster than any person on earth can. I strongly dislike the argument that the top 1% of mnk player that wins anyway despite being at a disadvantage being used as the norm.

The fact is that even good mouse players have issues with absolute dirt level players because of the aim assist. That's a sign that it's overtuned.

Any time suggestions like gyro are given when people talk about mouse players "having their whole arms" it gets shot down because many controller players really don't want raw aim. They want to rely on aim assist.

This whole conversation is tiring because it should have been ended a decade ago or more. If acknowledge that sticks are bad for aiming then why not use a better method for your controller instead of relying on the game to aim for you? If people actually asked for it then Microsoft would have added gyro to their controllers a long time ago. Instead they just want the status quo because face rolling their controller and somehow getting kills is more comfortable. @grizzled wyvern

[quick coyote]

PC players doing 4 360s in a second on MNK while controller needs 5 seconds to do 1 turn around. I dont buy the 'AA is better than MnK', in destiny for example weapons dont have recoil on PC. Idk on the finals

[subtle oak]

Nukes are still a thing, any opinions on this? Just use a red barrel and they still work.

Personally I wouldn’t mind nukes being completely gone. This patch didn’t fix the nuke issue.

[fallen mortar]

people will always complain about something

[lusty grotto]

I would also have to deal with the issue that in the games there are only mediums, they should limit it and that they cannot be repeated because the medium is very top and it is seen in the games that 90% are medium classes

[wanton heron]

I still feel like Bank it is dope with a proper team, needs ranked. This Solo stuff needs work badly, third-party hell where I am playing against people who just get in the way by not even playing the objective, mostly just shooting people at random rarely, if ever collecting or turning in coins.

[placid valley]

Yes, just delete light and heavy, also remove AA and console players' data. Then they don't have anything to complain.
Also remove ranked points, just give them all 999999999 points so they shut the fuck up.

[rose slate]

GAME UPDATE TO IMPROVE HEALTH AND LONGEVITITY OF THE GAME.
When someone first installs the game, they are greeted with a test. This test is an aim benchmark to test your skills; it will function just like the Kovaaks and AimLabs voltaic benchmarks. If a player scores too low (below plat-diamond), they are permanently banned from the game, simply because their aim is too bad and they are a cancer to their team at every moment, providing nothing because they cannot hit shots. It would be better if they just never had the chance to queue up. No one wants someone on their team who just dies and does nothing else.

I think I speak for everyone when I say, "I don't want people with Stevie Wonder tracking on my team." If you disagree, I will assume you are a lowbob who can't aim or a controller player. (They're the same thing.)

This would also fix the issue with solo queues because your teammates will actually be competent.

Yes, the game is free to play, but is it really free to play if my teammates mentally tax me and waste my time? After all, time is money.

YOUR MOVE EMBARK GAMES, YOU CAN LEAVE THIS GAME DESTINED FOR FAILURE, OR WITH THE PRESS OF A BUTTON, YOU COULD MAKE SURE IT IS IMMORTALIZED AND REMEMBERED AS ONE OF THE MOST INNOVATIVE GAMES BECAUSE OF THIS SIMPLE CHANGE THAT WOULD GUARANTEE QUALITY MATCHES

[wary hazel]

here's a list of things that should be nerfed/reworked/limited*.

• recon (because togglable wallhacks are a perfect addition to any FPS game and totally don't blur the line between legit players and actual cheaters)

• healing, specifically with 2 or more of them on the same team (this is not being complained about only because recon is stupidly overpowered right now)

• defib (even on paper it's dumb, not to mention when it's used either in combination with heal to basically nullify its downside or in a team with multiple defibs)

*Here's an idea to go about it, though it might be difficult to implement properly. Some gadgets should be limited per team no matter what classes are being played. For example, no matter if you run 1 M or triple M only one would be allowed to run defib, others would be forced to choose something else.
This would work to achieve some balance within a match WITHOUT having to nerf certain things to the ground and make them completely useless.

[wary storm]

why are they taking so long on a fix? why not just roll back to pre 1.5.0 and then give themselves some breathing room and time to fix the issues atm with crossplay, bloom etc?

[burnt shell]

Man this is not about game sense. The recon is part of the game and if you want to blame it, blame all other things because I don't think this is overpowered compared to all others abilities.

Personally, I use recon to check where people are currently going on the map and almost never in fights. It helps me driving my team to the best location (for example if there are 3 teams on the same vault) and it has to be in the game as it is. The delay we suffer for enabling/disabling it makes it completely fair and it has been nerfed yesterday if I am not saying a mistake.

So when you say that this guy "has no game sense and needs walhacks", maybe just learn to play the game and counter the recon instead of blaming and insulting players who just give their POV. I am pretty sure you will better enjoy the game. || @blissful bridge ||

[fossil walrus]

You don't need 5 seconds to turn. Stop using low sens. If want to snap and turn quickly then you should be asking for gyro. PS5 already has the tech and Microsoft needs to add it on their next controller.

Look up Apex ALGS and get back to me. You're literally throwing by not having a controller player on your team for fights. Have you really looked into any of this?

I'll bet if you got gyro tomorrow you wouldn't touch even though you would be able to to "4 360s in a second" like mouse players.

[true geode]

I played my first game after the update yesterday and noticed my sensitivity had changed. Not cool!

[fallow gust]

I cannot play with mouse and keyboard on Xbox after the new update whyyyy?.
Can someone help me please

[inner stag]

Hi

[gloomy wraith]

It got patched u cant use it anymore

[drifting thistle]

can feel the next patch medium sure get nerf lel

[exotic slate]

this is actually so insightful i believe this could actually fix the matchmaking issues!

[waxen root]

this is the only game I have problems with tho, my pc aint overheating, i got the newest drivers, I reinstalled the game, i´ve changed graphic settings without any improvement so idk

[green bison]

alright embark next step is to make REAL balance changes, i want to believe the last one was just an early april fools joke

[lusty grotto]

What you are saying is already an imbalance since you see where people go, a wallhack should not exist in any game, that in itself is unbalancing the game, as you yourself said, you use it to see where people go and organize yourself to win that as I say it is imbalance

[quick coyote]

Hey @hazy willow there is a problem with your automated ban system in the game, it will kick blatant hackers but they can reconnect that match.

[wanton heron]

Mixing teams where one and a half players know what they are doing makes no sense. I feel like every game I am playing with people who have no idea of the objective. People need a deathmatch mode I guess because some can't help but fight even if it means C9ing the objective.

[inner nest]

No clue who in his right mind would think wallhacks across the map is a good idea in an fps game

[cosmic spear]

No fix on the aim assist settings just not working still?

[rose slate]

game updates:

heavy shields can deflect bullets back for 20% more damage. (heavy is weak because you can just shoot the shield and break it but they cant shot while their shield is up?)
revolver 14 mag and firerate increase by atleast 30%.
akm 100 mag because 36 bullets is a weird number.
grapple can now hit enemies and stun them while pulling them to you. (grapple is useless)
light invisibility no longer has the wind effect when moving, i mean it just doesnt make sense. hoiw is it invisibility if i can see them.

[proud ocean]

Did 1.51 hotfix actually fixed the aiming on console? In my opinion wasn’t just a matter of resetting the value to 60.

[worn gale]

I did not like the new aim assist

[plucky veldt]

Many users looked forward to the update,

but Recon did a patch that didn't even look like a nerf.

Since then, there have been only 30,000 simultaneous users.

and finals soon dead

[fossil walrus]

Yeah the range is WAY too far. If anything it should be extremely short. Sonar should be the only thing with range

[wary storm]

new patch notes available but no mention of crossplay?

[prime brook]

noway u didnt put in recon nerf in that hotfix

[opaque patio]

well yeah recon will seem fair if you arent using it in fights

[fresh shell]

Roof tile collision still needs work. Keep getting stuck dashing into them

[high condor]

Bruh can you put kill replay after you die from the opponents pov so you can see exactly how you died?

[true grove]

since the update ive been unable to play, i have no audio at all, ive tried so many headsets and tried all the fixes i can think of. any ideas? id be super grateful, i miss playing!

[royal fractal]

More dagger skins

[cunning stag]

Why can't this game have input based matchmaking? Allow MnK on consoles and implement input based matchmaking. Controller vs controller, MnK vs MnK, problem solved, is it hard to implement this?

[honest dust]

The garbage studio has banned me for a few accounts. I haven't opened anything yet

[inner nest]

recon senses shouldn't exist at all IMO... I was a light main since cb but I've been using M recon in ranked since official release with my team and farming lobbies cz its legit wallhacks!! we have a very good aim and recoil control + you give wallhacks.. they have sonar grenade and that should be the end of walling.. game is not fun at all if everyone is wall hacking making other classes extremely weak.. Mediums have everything, we have movement with jump pad, I have wall hack so perfect grenades, defib is another stupid thing which needs to be somehow reworked.. countless issues with game rn but biggest is recon.. still playing it cz I dont wanna go back to apex's master grind atleast for this season but this patch was make or break for the game and made many people quit the game and its bleeding now.

[cloud locust]

Anyone else having problems with the speed of the battlepass progression?
I am already doing all of the weekly's and most of the daily's but I don't seem to progress fast enough.
I just don't have the time to commit my life to this game.
Some kind of fix in that direction would be very appreciated.

[kindred spire]

I have an idea of a new power for the mediums, "Tactical Loadout" basically lets you have two weapons at the same time, and slight improvement for each weapon:

• FCAR Increased mag to 25
• AKM has a scope
• etc..

[ripe kettle]

Dåre spel

[opal orbit]

Hey

[gloomy wraith]

Did it

[fresh shell]

@inner nest Triple recon still isn't as busted as triple turrets (can't even attempt to break one if they're all on ceilings or semi-covered).
You can easily throw off a recon player as dash/grapple light, or shield against them as heavy. (that said, it's still annoying as M, or cloak light)
@cloud locust I got done in 30 days focusing just on dailies (also completed most my weeks tho). Daily win alone counts for 4k XP, and doing all dailies is another 2k XP.

[sage bison]

240k->60k in a month, ouch || https://prnt.sc/eHrl_MP5QBHd

Nerf medium class and improve matchmaking or game's gonna die

@kindred spire the FCAR is probably the best gun in the game rn it doesn't need buffs, in fact they probably both need nerfs. Medium is far and away the best class rn

@fresh shell I'd take wallhacks over a turret any day

[sand pewter]

posting here as well for exposure. If the cashbox stays stationary for a set amount of time can it please reset to a vault location. Just had an enemy team play keep away with the box and camp at the top of the cranes on the map

[rose slate]

Why recon sense is underpowered. Wallbangs do not exist in this game, so wallhacks are barely an issue. Its not that bad if they see you behind a wall because you have a peeker's advantage. No one wants to abuse this and get a free first shot. (What happened to jiggle peaking?) This is why recon sense is considered broken.

Recon sense doesn't even do any damage or healing or provide any buffs to you. All you get are walls, which again isn't crazy because if you have good gamesense, you will know where they are. (If you can't, well, maybe your gamesense is shit and this game isn't for you.)

I can easily beat any recon sense user by just shooting at them faster than they shoot at me. If people realized stacking heals was more OP; this game would be 20x more cancer. Thank god that sense is meta, because it is actually not good. All recon sense is a crutch and nothing more; it is not broken, nor does it provide anything useful. It is only a crutch for bad players who have shit crosshair placement and communication. Disagree with me? You are a lowbob.

Some buffs they should add to make recon sense actually viable are:
-add wallbanging
-make recon sense track invis lights that aren't behind walls.
-after someone is no longer viewed by recon sense, for 5 seconds they take 50% increased damage.

NOT TO MENTION RECON SENSE MAKES A NOISE. JUST LISTEN, AND YOU'LL HEAR IT. If you do not hear it, try turning up your volume to 100 on everything you can. NO ONE WANTS TO MAKE USE OF THIS INFORMATION.

Alternative Changes: Recon Sense Rework
recon sense scans enemies bodies in line of sight of you and makes your next five bullets hit the head for free. kind of like the fallout vat system but without the slow mow and rng. (aimhacks>wallhacks)

[wind hemlock]

The turret hitbox is completely wonky imo. If you shoot one at any kind of range half of your shots just straight up miss, makes a triple stack an impossible push without glitch

[heavy brook]

It would be amazing to have a node system similar to a pathfinding system but for respawns. The links have a value which represents the time it takes for a medium to transverse them.

Sometimes on team respawn we spawn right next to the cashout, sometimes on the other side of the map. Also happened to me just a few times to spawn right next to enemy team.

[quick coyote]

Hey @hazy willow there is a problem with your automated ban system in the game, it will kick blatant hackers but they can reconnect that match.

[subtle oak]

Please fix crossplay ❤️

[wary hazel]

to be fair yes, heals would be the topic of discussion if recon didn't exist because stacking mediums is the issue, it's not JUST recon, JUST heals or JUST defibs, it's the fact that you can have multiple players abusing them in a single team at the same time.

[paper birch]

The game just needs to embrace its mario party style and focus more on 🤪

[blissful bridge]

Ranked and casual both play differently from each other.

Ranked is filled with players maximizing there chance to win. So they always choose the best optimal loadouts.

Balancing for ranked concerns will throw the game into an unending mess of balancing issues because of the way it's played.

The game needs to be balancing around the experience and style it's trying to deliver.

There are far more popular titles that have been ruined by constant nerfs and buffs stemming from the competitive fanbase.

[olive epoch]

BUFF RECON! Why its only wallhack? Add aim and speed hack too

[plucky veldt]

Many people left after patch.

It's disappointed as much as expected.

why don't touch recon

[opaque patio]

would be nice if lag didnt cancel revives and steals sucks for people with bad internet

[spice stag]

bait used to be believable

[gloomy wraith]

Rip the finals wish they did it better cs this game actualy was alot of fun

[fresh shell]

Also ranged barely scratches them in half your clip (while you're also getting mauled by those turrets and probably players), while melee breaks them in 2-3 taps.
They feel like they have a shittier ranged TTK than heavies, while also not running out of ammo, having a tiny (easy to cover while still able to shoot) hitbox, and being dead-on accurate.

[green bison]

the problem is that there is zero counterplay to wall hacks, you can't counter it no matter what you try to do

[cloud locust]

@fresh shell It's still quite slow and I still have the rest of my life to attend to. Work, household, relationship, other games. I think it should be able to complete it even if you can't put 100 hours in it. Stacking the weeklies would maybe be an option. I'm just saying I don't want to have to spend as much time if I already spent money for it. And they should drastically lower the price for unlocking them with money. 100 bucks or more is inacceptable.

Oh and I also think you should be able to break through windows when you sprint. Especially when I'm carrying an gas cannister or something I can't use quick melee to break through because it would go off.

[burnt shell]

So invisibility is unfair since people can't see you ? Turrets are unfair since it shoots you as a 4th player in the team ? Shields are unfair since they tank damages instead of your teammates ?
All of these examples are imbalanced if there's no counter, but there are. So what's the problem ?

[rose slate]

changes so console players are happy!
make it so crossplay is unable to be turned off.
remove aim assist completely.
you have to have a xim plugged in to launch the game on console.

these changes are so that console players are forced to adapt, unfortunatantly there is a common theme amongst console players; They all want their game set to baby mode.

FORCE CONSOLE PLAYERS TO PLAY WITH MNK PLAYERS, FORCE THEM TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. this way console players will actually improve overtime instead of being stuck and carried by aim assist. it will be uncomfortable for them at first, but given time they will blossom.

@spice stag, you only call this bait because you cannot comprehend an opinion that actually isnt regurgitated by the whole playerbase, sheep like you are the reason this game will die. average lowbob cannot wrap their head around good game design, unfortunate. all you do is put people down that try to strive for a better future. get your head in the game.

[compact fog]

dagger backstabs still dont show as crits
THIS IS GAME BREAKING PLEASE FIX

[placid valley]

Trash game. No any real new content. Only broken balance, bugs and hackers. Always ask you to pay for the skins. Deleted.

[sage bison]

1. You can see and hear invis if you have eyes and ears
2. You can shoot out turrets or nade them, or glitch nade them, or avoid them
3. You can glitch nade dome shields/mesh shields, shoot them, nade them, or avoid them

Are you seriously defending literal wall hacks in a competitive fps? Fuckin a, why not give lights aim hacks on toggleable button. There is nothing you can do to stop yourself from being seen by recon, absolutely nothing. It completely changes the game when people know exactly where you are at all times. Recon needs hard nerfed/removed and other parts of the Medium's kit or this game is gonna keep circlin the drain.

[wary hazel]

This is not a good response to what I was pointing at. I am not suggesting power creep nor am I suggesting a nerf to everything. Even a blind man can see that stacking mediums is an issue throughout the whole game because of the utility they can provide. In ranked it makes for a horribly stale, boring experience of a match consisting of only mediums and in casual play whoever DOES run triple medium, just wins. If this is not an issue in your eyes we might as well remove light and heavy, rename the game to The Mediums, and give mediums all of light's and heavy's gadgets and weaponry - funnily enough this would make for a more balanced game than what we have currently.

[exotic slate]

And here's an example of your average lowbob. A controller crutch user relying on unfair mechanics on hardware released years ago. The most common issue we've been seeing in the community is about Crossplay and how that ties into the fairness of the game. The clear solution would be one to help the good players be good and to let the bad players be bad. No need to argue about input superiority when you can just remove the obvious lesser of the two...#PCMR

REMOVE ALL CROSSPLAY AND CONSOLE ACCESS TO THE FINALS
It is very apparent that MnK (Mouse and Keyboard) players are just simply better than people relying on controllers to play. Without the absolute crutch that aim assist provides, no controller player would ever be able to stand a chance against the newest PC player. The Finals™️ is obviously a very competitive and dynamic shooter, about being the best of the best... but how could you be at your best when relying on artifical assistance. If we're being honest, even saying the word "rely" would be a stretch. Half of the game is being played for you while you're on controller, all you truly have to do is move around the map and pull the trigger... everything else is done for you like a magic trick. I just don't think that it's very fair that pure mouse aimers have to compete with cyborgs, especially in a ranked setting. If these same circumstances were applied to a sports settings, there would be an outrage! On top of that, the latest generation of console hardware was released in 2020, back when COVID was still in full effect... basically prehistoric with how fast new game technology and hardware is advancing in the new age. These ancient machines add nothing but stability/optimization issues to the ongoing list of issues that developers have to look into everyday. Easiest (and best imo) solution to this problem would be to remove them from the matchmaking pool completely. Nothing is gained by having an unqualified boulder holding you and your team back.

[molten horizon]

shorten the range of the stun gun

[quick coyote]

Hey @CM there is a problem with your automated ban system in the game, it will kick blatant hackers but they can reconnect that match.

[slow zenith]

please never make a feedback post ever again

[quick coyote]

please split the game up into more chunks so we dont have to do 16gb of patching for small updates with sizes of 1gb

[naive apex]

can we please get an audio fix to mitigate the problem of not being able to talk to our teammates in game or lobby

[toxic shadow]

Bait used to be believable

[tender minnow]

keyb and mouse support on console, every other game has it

[opaque meteor]

ROLL UP SLEEVES FOR WEARING WATCHES PLS

[merry creek]

Wow this game is rapidly falling from fantastic to flop in record time

[gloomy wraith]

Ur a clown and should Go see a doctor cs ur delusional didnt say i cant aim get of ur pc chair and was ur ass @rose slate

[quick coyote]

blind devs. always the same shit

[burnt shell]

Yes I am, because there is a delay between enabling/disabling it. There is also an enabled delay which means the "wallhack" is not permanent, you have to enable it smartly.
If you are the only one in your team with recon, which is almost everytime the case, your only ability is to ping the danger to your friends. And what can your enemies do ?

They can as I said put a turret that shoots you, they can heal themselves, they can dash,... So placing pings is imbalanced with all others abilities ?

I can see and understand your opinion but it has to be objective. The pros and cons of getting recon as ability are balanced as all others abilities.

You can keep reacting to my messages with clowns emojis but you are only pointing out that you are crying here to Embark as the game they made isn't as YOU want.

[rocky verge]

People who are toxic in the discord server (without being helpful) should be immolated or given a warning… one of the two

[rose slate]

AND LOOK AT THAT.. another prime example of lowbob.. xbox account attached to account? i mean the jokes write themselves!! hes just a controller LOWBOB who cannot aim.

[opaque patio]

you can shoot while u have recon active btw and it has an insane uptime for being walls

[sage bison]

Please never make a feedback post every again

[spark sundial]

increase aps range

[hollow agate]

Recon is great if your a solo player with randoms.
It starts getting unfair if you can communicate what you see to your teammates

A great fix would be to make recon senses a button you can only click once, that kind of sends out a radar signal like eagle vision in assassins creed. Where you can see everyone around you for like 2-3 seconds and it slowly fades. And you can only see the position of the players at the time you used that recon ability

[quick coyote]

Like dev vacation
This game need vacation too

pin this is funi

[proud ocean]

Revert AIMING settings to 1.4.1 . AIMING feels so bad right now.

[lament talon]

Wtf you mean

[exotic slate]

I don't think that defending the hard workers of this community makes me a clown. All of my points were intricately thought out and you're calling me delusional because you know the truth. You obviously don't have enough brain power to formulate your own opinions (controller = low iq) so you repeat what you hear from all of the other lowbobs around you. Also I'm sitting in an office chair, not a "pc chair."

[valid night]

plz stop play with LH1 damage number, if you truly want to buff it, just increase damage to 50, or roll back to OB version

[earnest ermine]

I wanna grab that little poindexter 🤓 by his collar and shove him into a locker so baaaad
(Person in the screenshot)

[balmy remnant]

Where is the love for handhelds?
The Nintendo Switch is one of the most beloved and popular consoles to date, as a daily user of a switch I would love this game to recieve a switch port. They are missing out on massive player increases by doing this. The Switch 2 is coming out in these next couple of years and i would love to play this game on my handheld. Even overwatch has their game on the switch and that game is dead on every platform, I mean seriously how can we set the standard so low to where overwatch has a switch port, but not a game that is outperforming cod? just a bit ridiculuous if you ask me.

Rlly hoping the devs can do something about this one day.👀

[blissful bridge]

It's sad that others want the game changed because it's not their style of FPS and they don't enjoy it.

The game needs a little balancing, but it needs to stay true to the gameplay style and experience.

The calls for recon to be removed, changed into sonar, or debilitate the player by showing their location are the wrong ways to balance recon senses.

This game has fun and powerful abilities. Let's keep it that way as we balance it out.

@burnt shell I'm happy that you actually enjoy this game too and want to preserve the feeling of it!

[merry creek]

I'm gutted because this has been the best thing I've played in decades but since release they have killed it on console... Will leave it now and hope it finds its feet again in a couple months or so

[sage bison]

how did they kill it on console?

[plush plaza]

Give recon sense to light to make it viable in competitive, it fits lights role better than medium 🙂 no need to nerf

[rose slate]

textbook definition lowbob is quitting the game cus they nerfed aim assist. buy a xim for 30 bucks on amazon and a bugha 5 dollar and below mnk. its time to escape lowbobism.. take my hand.

[quick coyote]

Hogwarts Legacy is on Switch.

[jovial dome]

The hardware of the switch is just too outdated to be worth porting to

[tawdry light]

Are we forced to be matchmaking with pc now or why do i see other signs than PS

[opaque patio]

xim would have aim assist too so what are u talking about

[quick coyote]

Hey @hazy willow there is a problem with your automated ban system in the game, it will kick blatant hackers but they can reconnect that match.

[proud ocean]

Aiming feels really bad on console since 1.5. Not talking just about aim assist but aiming in general. Like they change settings/values. They need to revert back to 1.4.1. They don’t seem to care btw.

[burnt shell]

I completely agree with that, thanks ! The game has made his own signature and I hope he will keep it 😄

[paper pilot]

Escaping lowbobism is kinda like escaping the matrix

[quick coyote]

game has huge problems right now but they don't seem to care. defib and recon senses are unfair, mesh shield on/off indefinitely is unfair

[lament talon]

It's crazy how controller players think they deserve aim assist. Is it my problem that you can't hit shots without software?

Give them AA on console and nerfed AA on crossplay

[olive epoch]

Hot fix remove recon

[nocturne flare]

Please make light class 140hp to balance it against the recent RPG change

[blissful bridge]

I hope so too.

Embark, please check out this comment chain.

---

EMBARK

Ranked and casual both play differently from each other.

Ranked is filled with players maximizing there chance to win. So they always choose the best optimal loadouts.

Balancing for ranked concerns will throw the game into an unending mess of balancing issues because of the way it's played.

There are far more popular titles that have been ruined by constant nerfs and buffs stemming from the competitive fanbase.

The game needs to be balancing around the experience and style it's trying to deliver.

[balmy remnant]

i use my xim cronus this game and its not even that op with aim assist so idk what ur talking ab

[rose slate]

True, escaping lowbobism is a choice for some. But for some of us it is a requirement. Do you understand?

[chrome verge]

recon sense is a total crutch

[mystic kernel]

I would love a Linux text chat, I have fixed so many issues and would love to talk with more fellow Linux :)))))

[opaque patio]

youre a cheater

[hearty hound]

Nice patch, now release a performance patch

[worthy helm]

REMOVE RECON

[cosmic spear]

Get him banned bro

[earnest ermine]

MODS SEND THIS HERETIC TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL AND HAVE THEM SUFFER ETERNALLY FOR THEIR SIN

also 120hz support would be nice

[balmy remnant]

call it cheats, but anyone can go to amazon and buy a xim cronus, i will do what it takes to win games and idgaf about anyone else. if they wanna complain ab my xim cronus they can go buy one and then maybe ill care, also if im cheating where is my ban. 🤡 lmfao like i would care if i got banned from a f2p game anyways , ill just go xim on another game ezpz

[cold pilot]

** R E M O V E**

** T H E**

** R E C O N **

[valid night]

everyone just spam recon what a funny game

[nimble steppe]

So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!

Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬

[tawdry light]

Cant find anything there?

[lament talon]

Because you can play mnk against only controller players. You're a cheater in denial

[flint stag]

why does my Warzone runs at 80fps but Finals runs at 60 xDDDDD please Devs. FIX THIS GAME

[proud ocean]

1.4.1 nerfed aim assist and was great. 1.5 broke settings and aiming was quite horrible on console. Feeling was weird. They messed around with settings and now it’s still in a bad state.

[quick coyote]

Recon ruined the game, everyone constantly crutching on wall hacks this game can not be balanced fr a rock paper scissors type game can not work as a Competitive shooter

[wary hazel]

if only it was rock paper scissors, it would be perfectly balanced. this is not. this is rock paper instawinbutton

[quick coyote]

Hey @hazy willow there is a problem with your automated ban system in the game, it will kick blatant hackers but they can reconnect that match.

[wheat island]

Is it only me or the game does not remember the FPS limit after closing and restarting? It goes back to unlimited on each start

[nimble steppe]

When i play with mnk I don't have an aim assit when i play with the controlor the aim assit is back , but when the devs nerf the aim assit thay cancel the mous & keybord on console , so this is thier proplom not mien ??!

[mild pond]

increase max controller sensitivity by at least 2-3x, and make aiming feel more responsive at lower inputs pls & ty

[coral thistle]

Mitt nummer blev stulet.,Fusket som öppnades av nummertjuven visar att jag inte öppnade fusket.,Jag fick tillbaka numret och blev bannad.,Vad menar du?,I KD-data, du kan kontrollera att det inte finns något onormalt.

[tawdry light]

Whys there other platforms than PS with crossplay off?

[cold pilot]

Im not a controller user but, agree you
I dont care how much value on AA, just dont let it can be use with mnk

** R E M O V E**

** T H E**

** R E C O N **

[mellow gull]

I agree with you + if only they would introduce 120fps on the new generation of consoles

[wary hazel]

Guys wallhacks are SO underpowered! You gotta trust me, the only reason I can constantly win with them is because I'm just REALLY good at the game! Everyone crying about wallhacks, you guys are just pussies who want to hide and camp! It doesn't even give me an advantage, you can still kill me. Which gives me an idea that whenever I use them I should also get aimbot cause I never used JUST walls in csgo, I always used walls AND aimbot. Make it complete, give recon sense aimbot too when I'm using it so it can finally be balanced!

(this is a sarcastic mockery, i do not have these opinions nor do i cheat in csgo 🤡 )

[rose slate]

noobs mad cus wallhackers can click heads and they cant 🥱

[sage bison]

Agreed, light should's be given an aim bot that aims straight for the head and all they have to do is click

[tacit aspen]

Fix skillbased ranked now why even play ranked when i meet top 500 players every other game

[next raptor]

Thanks for the quick hotfix, your doing good job ❤️

[solar trellis]

yes

[molten trail]

if any class should have recon it's lights given that it works well with sniper

[olive epoch]

** R E M O V E**

** T H E**

** R E C O N **

[placid valley]

B U F F

    T H E 

        R E C O N 

D E F I B
F C A R

[silent plover]

For game modes they should add something similar to Warpath from Doom 2016

[plush plaza]

also makes light usable in competitive since light would actually provide something for the team. Right now light is medium with less hp , no defib, no recon 🙂

For example we could give light recon sense in the same way thermal works, so you cannot shoot while using it

Give medium thermal vision as a ability so you can shoot while using it.

[keen steppe]

Light:
Should get faster regenration out of combat to improve their harass-playstyle.

Someone else mentioned a stimshot item which could also work out instead of changing the regen timer. Maybe even make it so you can choose to give that stim to a teammate instead of using it only on yourself.

The sniper could use some love aswell. Not too sure about in what way tho, since that could easily make it too strong. Some experimentation with firerate might be a good first step imo.

M11 is in a weird spot too, it technically is slightly stronger than the xp-45 up close but overall still significantly worse. Maybe enhance the close-range capabilities even more so there is a clear difference between the two.

Sword should be able to hit multiple opponents with the charge attack. (The reverse of heavies hammer)

Medium:
After getting resurrected by defib you should not have invulnerability.

If you get defibbed as a medium you should have your own defib go on cooldown to prevent chain defibs.
OR
Make it so defib isnt instant but just significantly shortens the regular revive-time. Like a sped up version of the normal revive where youd have to keep facing the downed-player trophy.

In addition a reduced effect for multiple healing beams on the same target would be good aswell. One beam heals for 100%, two beams would heal for more than 100% but less than 200%.

A change for recon sense also wouldnt hurt. Maybe make it so it functions similar to thermal vision of light. Where you have to pull out a tablet to activate it and it stays activated for a set amount of time and goes on cooldown afterwards. Also make it pulse every 5 seconds instead of a continuous vision. Each pulse would outline enemies for 1.5 seconds. Or just get rid of it.

Heavy:
Hammer horizontal swings should be able to hit multiple opponents. (The reverse of lights sword)

Performance:
Some performance and optimization improvements are very needed aswell.

Melee AA should be toggleable.

[hard wasp]

Sword will be perfectly viable if they decrease the charge rate of right click by 0.5 or if that's too much 0.3. That is the number one reason I die mid fights when I am out of dashes.

[carmine ore]

bUfF rEcOn SeNsEs!1!11!!1!1

[glass oriole]

for around 65 sec i have a black screen before the game loads into the menu

[upper canyon]

they were cooking with the trailer

[inland heron]

I just wanna say that the solo bank it game mode is amazing and I really hope it comes back or at least another solo gamemode replaces it because it's so fun ❤️❤️

[cosmic spear]

Get this mans gamertag. He definitely needs a ban

[lilac parcel]

https://youtu.be/Vittlr9vEK8
Two users keep interfering with their allies with goo guns, making the play impossible. I think there should be sanctions for such intentional trolling behavior, and goo guns should disappear immediately when used on allies to prevent them from being abused for ally interference.

[distant moth]

Make more levels,
40 is not enough!

[thorny wren]

need that #store-feedback channel... haha...

your username appearing on the dogtag charm in the combat credentials pack is genius... kudos to whoever thought that up

the s.o. sleek set is wicked cool for those who like camo and disguise, but it does feel like pay2play. no real weakness in the set. the urban op for instance had white shoes. course one can always swap those out. Still, it's also super good looking.

keep the store content coming. Would love to see the battlepass begin to minimize sounds and emotes and think more about skins and clothing... i get that many games have that model, but emoting in the finals, based on its speed and chaos, isn't really the same as emoting in a game as slow as fortnite

[sharp mason]

fix the fucking hackers

[sweet sable]

skill issue

[quick coyote]

tell me how is this slightly fair. SAVE THE GAME. REMOVE THE FUCKING DEFIB.

[proud ocean]

Stupidity cannot be fixed unfortunately

[fast nest]

Needs a patch of the iframes

[wary hazel]

the game doesn't shut down properly. the process keeps running in the background after shutdown.

[rose slate]

dam how u not get more than 2 kills? u suck lol

[pulsar flare]

You missed a ton of shots, were away from your team and left the statue on entirely different floor. You just made a terrible play @sage bison is just a mad gamer and can't play a game unless it hands them wins. Don't be like him. Everything in this game has a counter you guys just refuse to use them

[sage bison]

Solution: remove defib and recon *or heavily nerf

[hard wasp]

When will the match making be fixed? I am not supposed to fight diamond 1 premade when I am plat 2

[zenith linden]

give us a match log cuZ i wana check my performance for my last games

[surreal ore]

add an option to disable anti aliasing completely. TAA is blurry mess

[junior ridge]

Remove defib invinciblity.

Rework recon senses, basically turn them into a sonar nade when they use it. Or change it so that you look at a tablet while using recon, so that you can't run around with your gun out killing people while looking at them through walls.

Rework spawns, it's so stupid how you spawn in the los of cashouts and immediatly die. And it's so frustrating how one team always get a free cashouts because the other two teams spawn right next to your cashout.

Remove dead go boom or make it a visible bomb with more time to run away from, will never play melee since I can randomly because useless when dead go boom starts. It's also annoying how a light can squad wipe you by just dying in the middle of your team, since you don't even have time to run away.

Remove quick cashouts, takes 0 skill to win a game by putting in a cashout while the other teams are on the other side of the map fighting. They have no way of making it there and you get 22k for free.

[cloud mason]

cl-40 buff

[pulsar flare]

@fickle linden why was I falsely banned but this is ok?

[restive dove]

W devs for putting out this hotfix ASAP hopefully we'll see some recon rework and nuke nerfs soon

[fickle linden]

it's not ok, thanks for pinging

[hard badger]

Can we get lobby music in the battlepass? It would be cool to change our lobby music 😄

[dusk eagle]

Nuke has been severely nerfed already, have you seen the patch notes?

[tardy swallow]

Cheaters still in every 6-7 matches, ridiculous.
Most of the time, my team is silver or bronze when I'm plat.

[wind hemlock]

Yeah nukes are now only point blank range. Don't see any heavies in ranked anymore 💀

[inner nest]

There's Heavies running around with explosive cannister nukes now... Nukes are still very much in the game.

[keen dirge]

some minor issues but hands clip through parts of pants in the customization menu (here: pistol)

[green bison]

There should be an "agree" and "disagree" reaction on every suggestion here so it's easier to tell if it's a wanted suggestion or not, also easier to avoid trolls this way

[teal marsh]

Piggybacking off this, allow a way to stop or delay the detonation of dead go boom with a normally underused gadget: SMOKE and SMOKE bombs! Make statues catch fire before exploding so smoke can work on them!

I think defib should be changed to always put your weapon at 0 ammo when spawning, the problem with the iframes is people instantly hopping back into the fight that they normally might have lost or literally did lose and gunning you down with the protection from it. By forcing a reload the two parties have to make a bigger decision about when and what they do before the revive.

Also if possible slightly reduce the damage falloff of CL40? Maybe it’s just because I’m not very good with it but I’ve found it oddly inconsistent even in close range, and it’s already harder to use than a gun at longer ranges

[muted drift]

New patch crashes ps5 games

[bold needle]

is this really suposed to be a thing...
that a box gets cashed out right att the end if you deposit it when the time runs out. Is it not supposed to go to overtime ?
https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/1Q8W679UjFzNfM/d1337NwLiU6W?invite=cr-MSxwUHosNjUxOTI3OSw

[rocky smelt]

remove possibility to attach a c4 on a barrel !!!! save the game!!!

[honest abyss]

We need duo mode. Ranked duo too

[broken quest]

anyone facing high cpu usage even in low setting ... I am using RTX 3060 AMD RYZEN 5600

[sharp mason]

why max level only 40????? hope they add more

[pulsar flare]

They already nerfed Nukes hardcore, they are in a good state now

But like I said @quick coyote you just made a bad play you'll get them next time

[queen rover]

NERF MEDIUM AND RECON OR YOUR GAME WILL DIE

[lethal valve]

They need to fix the sound, but apart from riot games, i feel like devs have a hard time with that...

[autumn widget]

I have been facing that for a long time 30% cpu usage in lobby and 40-50% in game

[hard wasp]

Since discord is very crowded and messages flow constantly, I made a petition to remove recon senses from the game. My opinion is to replace it with defib as an ability. This will give mediums more player agency with 1 extra gadget, and the game will be instantly more balanced. Fcar can be replaced since without recon it is not absolutely busted. The main idea of the petition is to get a quantifible number of people who agree with REMOVING recon, not reworking it. I strongly believe this ability goes against the very essence of FPS games and especially against this game's design of multi leveled buildings and creative optins in engaging a team. All of this is denied by recon senses.
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game

[graceful sable]

[undone kestrel]

Take team colors purple and pink out of the same match

[hearty hound]

same dawg

[vast condor]

Put a FPS cap 🤷‍♂️

[pine needle]

Is there like... no way to petition a conscious nerf instead?

There are a good number of options and ways to nerf a wallhack, not just by removing it.

As you already know, it makes a directional noise when you activate it, and your enemies can hear that. That's its current only downside, but it could use an expansion over that.

• Actual distance falloff and limited distance overall so you can't see spawn points, nor teamfights 10 rooms away

• "Detected" message to victims

• Rework: Add a directional (90-120°) "scanline" that visually expands over from the player's POV that pings other players' locations, and you'd only get a current position ping instead of a constant WH; plus make said scanline visible for enemies too (Would even change the wallhack into a wall ping, and could just have 2 charges which get used up the instant someone presses the prompt.)

There is no way to just strip a feature from the game but if we look at... well, with mild disgust, Rainbow Six Siege, they went kinda hard on reworking elements into managable features.

Cause arguably right now it's busted.

[sage bison]

Yes I swear after 1.3 I had the same fps but much higher cpu util for some reason, might be AMD stats not displaying correctly idk

[dark ginkgo]

APS should not clip thru ceilings when im underneath the APS turret. Please fix this

[cold pilot]

no need, like "remove/nerf recon bla bla bla bla", the worker from embark in here they just push this to "recon issue" to devs, wont talk about the details which is it had

[covert dock]

Since 1.5 update got an error code TFGE0001 and TFGE0000 on PS5. I'm tired 😣

[astral frost]

I don't think aim assit bug has been fixed yet, can anyone else confirm?

[serene arch]

Which one specifically?

[bold ingot]

A duo mode would be very nice tbh. Racked up a couple hundred hours in the CB and OB, but now after the game has launched too many selfish players run around playing death match in tournaments or ranked. It really is a bummer that a game so obviously team cantered, at least reflected in game modes and general map layouts, has not addressed these glaring issues. VOIP is laggy and there is no clear pathway for players to discover its usefulness. The Counter-Strike community for example has a great majority of players actively communicating through their VOIP. I would assume this has been fostered trough a general global voice chat in casual games or the funniest, in halftime and at the end of competitive. This was toxic ik, but it has to have made the community an actual community. At least add a LFG tab or similar

[hard wasp]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game

[rose slate]

what the game needs.

-fcar 40 mag.
-console and controller support removed.
-remove light class and give every gun,skill, gadget etc to medium.
-remove anti aliasing.
-ban players with low kda and/or accuracy for life, they just drag everyone down. (hwid and ip ban)
-heavy removed from the game entirely.
-if a player dies when a teammate has 1 second respawn and causes a team wipe. their address will flash on the screen in big bold letters for everyone to see.

[sharp plinth]

U got the Skill issue dude...

[normal turret]

anyone else stuck in the loading screen to the practice range?

[glass sonnet]

This game has a good concept, and i've been an avid spokesperson for it, hoping the cheating issues would improve. They have not improved. Once your elo gets high enough you WILL have to fight at MINIMUM one team of cheaters in any ranked tournament. This is not an exaggeration - we have not played a ranked tournament in a week of playing every night that didn't have at least one team of cheaters. I loved the gameplay, it feels so good but this is not a playable state. The absence of any real anticheat, or any transparency on the action Embark are taking to mitigate the absolute waves of cheaters destroying the game is just sad. For me it's a GG and uninstall. For the rest of you I hope things improve before any of you put any more time or money into the game.

[valid night]

roll back LH1 to OB version

[olive epoch]

yep, one of them could be replaced with a different color

[tribal zinc]

finals of the tournament and we are left with no fill..... idk how we managed to get to the last round considering the 3rd kept dc....annoying

[obsidian solar]

You can do it manually, increase zoom boost

[haughty marsh]

why does finding a game then loading INTO the game take so damn long

[valid night]

remove recon replace with defib slightly nerf fcar recoil, all AR LMG hipfire accuracy nerf

[undone kestrel]

What do you guys think about the shop it’s kind of weird because once it’s there it’s in store forever I don’t think I seen anything rotate out yet besides elf outfit it needs a rework maybe have weekly customization discounted then when it’s out make it full price I just don’t understand the point of it

[round goblet]

Wallrun/Gravity Bomb Gadgets when?

[vast tide]

I agree. Met at least one cheater in my last 5 ranked games

[smoky storm]

Healing beam is interrupted for 1/8-1/4 second if target takes bullet dmg.help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay.environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

db shotty rework:#👂┇game-feedback message

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4 Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Visual Clarity and gunsight fix:#👂┇game-feedback message

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

event suggestions: #👂┇game-feedback message

[rose slate]

Cheaters aren’t real its all cope from lowbobs.

@merry creek You’re my biggest fan, keep reacting to my messages. Lowbob Console Player Bwahahaha. Lol. Lowbob Hid His Gamertag.

[soft mist]

Anyone else got Skyway Stadium 16 out of 20 times since the latest patch?

[nimble steppe]

So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!

Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬

[royal turtle]

ok so, if i were to leave the server because both of my teammates had left the game and i don't wanna waste anymore time, i would get a timeout and no xp because of my teammates leaving me. This is such a great mechanic that benefits everyone in the server!

[worn spade]

from 135k to 60k players connected in less than 1 month and doing absolutely nothing with their latest patch welcome to embark games

[worthy helm]

Everything is going downhill because they didnt
R E M O V E

    T H E 

        R E C O N

[quick coyote]

Crossplay bug: when a console player leads the party, the lobbies seems to be filled with other console players. It's extremely unfair for them as during all these games, they were getting absolutely rolled on like they were new players. And it's also unfair for the PC leaderboard, because that has been an issue for quite a long time, there must be a lot of players in the global leaderboard who are abusing it.

[grim cove]

hello everyone) will the developers nerf the explosives with the detonator? in my opinion, for such a dynamic game, this explosive works very, very slowly. thanks for the answer)

[mellow gull]

So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!

Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬

[quick coyote]

Isn’t XIM cheating?? If you have MnK, play on MnK servers, on PC lobbies. If you’re on roller, play on roller lobbies

[rose slate]

Truth. Wouldn’t be surprised if half the dev team gets laid off. Massive failure. They should be apologizing to the whole community.

Personally I think they should consider hiring me as my ideas could actually save the game. Oh well. It’s a shame.

@quick coyote No Xim is not “cheating”. We should stop harassing people for using mouse and keyboard (the only right option) on console. Controller is old tech. Just remove its support already.

[strange mountain]

“Some men just want to watch the world burn”

[valid night]

roll back lh1 to OB version

[echo panther]

i feel like recon senses need a complete rework like instead of seeing people trough walls how about seeing footsteps or trails players leave behind

[bold ingot]

I say roll back everything to OB, playerbase, everything

[olive epoch]

REMOVE RECOIN

[mental cipher]

or just get better at the game

[opaque meteor]

ROLL UP SLEEVES FOR WATCH PLS

[quick coyote]

• Plays on roller, inferior to PC in 99% of ways (I used to play controller on R6/OW)
• Players buy XIM to “compete with the PC players”
• Keeps cross play off and only curb stomp roller players even harder.

If you’re going to buy PC parts, play on PC lobbies, all these XIM cryers are awesome to see because you all can’t stroke your ego playing against roller players. That’s like playing pickup but forcing the opponent to play with their offhand only, you then wonder why you’re “so good” at the game. Buy a whole ass PC, play on PC lobbies, and learn to get good instead of XIM crutching, like all of the roller>PC players have

[soft mist]

Ok but can anyone explain to me why Skyway Stadium is the only map im getting for 20 Games in a row? Like 15-16 out f 20 Games. All in Ranked Mode, Dia 1

[rose slate]

Solution: bugha 5$ mnk and xim combo.

[smoky storm]

remove sunny, fog, sandstorm(literally can't see anything in these game types)

Allow for the option to disable all anti-aliasing(including Temporal Anti-Aliasing).I play on 1440p and don't need it for a good looking game.In addition, the blurs that come from the forced TAA cause me headaches;many players are susceptible to blurs causing headaches or eye strain.I can only play for a short while a day as a result. It's a health/accessibility concern.

Reduce the dust particles generated by destruction/explosions, reduce their opacity,and have them fade away faster.The particles are cool and add to the game,but are currently cause far too much visual clutter,making it impossible to spot targets in many cases.Some guns also have way too many particles generated as part of muzzle flash,they can block your view in some cases.The dust particles are often more obstructive than smoke grenades/canisters.

Give gas the same treatment(except duration, of course).

reduce size/opacity of objective/team/ping icons - they are very large and often obstruct visibility in important and tense situations-especially during cashout steals,they can block an entire enemy model.Pings should make a sound and give a directional input on the compass,but be smaller and less obstructive(see apex legends pings as an ex,they are visible but unobstructive). #🔴┇media-chat message Here's an example of how much information the icons can block - this happens constantly.

Please remove or adjust all sway on all guns so that their sights(iron/scoped) give the correct indication of where the bullet will land. Currently, bullets always go center screen, but the sights tend to sway, which is misleading.

Customizeable hitmarkers/crosshairs

Please look at main menu/intro screen colors - they are too bright and cause eye strain. There are also a ton of bright white flashes which need a bit of tuning down, such as when jumping into the arena.

[tawdry mesa]

Please add an option “play again with team” on round / tournament ending

[quick coyote]

I LUV COUNTERPLAY

[wicked saffron]

I played a ranked tournament mode today and spawned without a third player. As this was the case for the whole round we where complete at a disadvantage to the other teams and promptly lost. The game should not start if there is not enough players.

[elfin swallow]

glitch grenade should be able to go through shields cause it’s supposed to be the counter for them

[subtle niche]

Can we please get rid of bloom on the revolver? A high skill cap weapon should reward good shots and the damage drop off already heavily limits its effective range.

[undone belfry]

Crossplay Bug is so annoying now.. its actually pc players again... they Flick, hipfire precisely and have amazing movement... especially in ranked when one has a high mmr... get pc players out of console crossplay... is that so hard?! Like no dev impelents this except hunt showdown. Where crossplay is console only. How tf is it fair to play against pc players on console???

[bronze widget]

turn off cross play

[strange mountain]

I think the Recon has place in the game, they just have to balance it to make it useful in the right situations but not overly annoying so you have to use it to compete. Even with all these issues I still find the game fun, I understand why people want Recon gone, but I don’t think that’s the main reason why the game is “dead” like some people say, even if they perfectly balance the game and it’s a competitive paradise (or hell), that’s not going to prevent the game from losing players. I believe that new content is the reason why the game is losing players, they said 1.5.0 was going to be a huge update, and it was just a new skin and a solo mode, that’s it.

[compact smelt]

I totally think kbm on console should’ve stayed🫣

[rose slate]

First shot missed because you shot too early. Third shot missed because you spammed and didn’t take the time to micro-adjust. How can you say “i love counterplay” and act like you didn’t just miss 2 out of 3 shots.

[quartz lake]

nerf melee

[quick coyote]

Dude the issue isn't my aim which isn't great, but that a smg can kill you in .95 seconds midrange. Even if I hit both shots they take longer than .95 seconds, so if we see each other at the same time there is never a chance.

[nimble yew]

wanna make this game last fix your anti cheat get rid of recon add sbmm for ranked way to many cheaters direspecting yout game do a wave of hardware ip bans make people 2nd guess themselves before launching 3rd party software

[smoky storm]

You shoot 3 times, that's enough to kill light if you didn't miss. In fact you can hs+bs him even quicker, in only two bullets. Headshot with revolver does 148, so if he's taken any damage at all prior, he will die in a single headshot. Your clip is just a skill issue. Revolver isn't the best, but the one thing it does do really well is demolish light class. (if you hit your shots).

In a straight fight, the light will lose to medium in nearly every situation. if you lose to them, it's almost always your fault, as it was in that clip.

[ionic plover]

The revolver can kill lights with all body shots in 0.86 seconds

[modern wedge]

event suggestion: revolving bases

several main sections of the map begin moving around and spinning n stuff. this would last for the normal event time, and the map would be shaped differently by the end

[ruby timber]

cry

[valid night]

except nuke rpg and stungun everything in beta better than now(pistol just need a Magazine nerf )

[abstract fern]

guys the game hasn't been out that long and people are already screaming for buffs and nerfs instead of learning to play the game and adapt. the meta is still adapting and shifting just because someone found an effective strategy against you doesn't mean you can't find one against them, the game is a literal sandbox for creativity

like just have fun play the game and let the devs cook, they know what they're doing but all everyone does is whine about every little thing they die to

[undone belfry]

You know that there's a Bug right? You cannot turn it off.. and also my rant was because why crossplay isnt CONSOLE ONLY, not that turning off is the solution... why not combine ps5 and xbox lobbys, have quicker matches and also see New people.... I never understand why companys make crossplay with console and pc... what benefit is there? Pc already has the biggest Player base..

[tribal zinc]

having rank without solving cheaters is oof .... way to kill the game https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543505676274499605/1197938872697499698/20240119_111901.jpg?ex=65bd1683&is=65aaa183&hm=a8748af71da60acaf72af75d56f715f380855ad23e96bb29119e96cb50bf9a05&=&format=webp&width=827&height=157

[upper citrus]

nerf heavy and medium

[shrewd vine]

Extremely annoying that defib just rewards bad play overall and lets you reverse fight-losing mistakes.

[hoary burrow]

damage an opponent with fire: i used a flamethrower and got like 7 just cooking them why do i get no progression?

[marsh ginkgo]

Why did they remove mouse and keyboard support on xbox 😔

[quick coyote]

@rose slate Oh I see what kinda person you are, we should take your feedback with a grain of salt.

Cheater.

All of your messages are very hatefull and make no sense, you call for removing of Antiailising, all controller support, ban low KDA players.

You also say recon sense is under powered????

You gotta be the most committed troll in this server. Every single thing you have ever said in this server is legit trolling.

[nimble yew]

every other game i play in ranked their is at least 1 person dropping 20+ kills while everyone else is stuck in single digits ive been shot through walls melee from across the map i have clips and screenshots of some of these things im proffering to since i cant post them here you can look on my tiktok @cyden

[bitter dome]

Can you please add a TDM mode so all the lights with 1 brain cell can have somewhere to be stupid together

[noble steppe]

Recon will kill this game as quick as the cheaters.

[smoky storm]

Dead Go Boom and Low Gravity rework/adjustments

These are currently the two most complained about events(for good reason).

Dead Go Boom - the corpses explode far too quickly, and often grants the "loser" of the gunfight a free kill. This is very frustrating as there is virtually no counterplay if the opponent chooses to play close. Melee users are especially unfairly punished by this modifier and have no recourse.

Suggest changes as follows: All statues can now be picked up and thrown from any team, until they explode. They explode at random with a 2-5 timer, and have a beep that increases in frequency as it nears the detonation timer. Once it detonates, it becomes a regular stationary statue that cannot be picked up by enemy teams. This changes the event into a "hot potato" mode, and gives some more time to play around the event. When picked up by enemy teams, the statues are heavy, slow the players movement, and cannot be thrown very far, preventing griefing by tossing enemy statues too far away from the fight.

Low gravity - While jumping higher and further is really fun, the slow falling is very frustrating. It makes going down stairs, dropping off height, or even just trying to drop from a roof into an attic a death sentence and highly frustrating. The lower gravity makes moving/falling targets extremely easy to track and they are virtually helpless during this time.

Instead of low gravity, increase the power of all jump pads and jumps by 3x. So you'll fall at normal gravity rate, but still jump much higher/further, and pads can still launch you extremely far. This reduces the frustrating aspect of low gravity while keeping the fun aspect of low gravity. Horizontal momentum boosts could also be temporarily increased, leading to a very fast paced event.

[rose slate]

Whats wrong with removing anti aliasing?? Also what does my message history have to do with my response to you. You missed your shots and died cus of it. Lol. Also im not a cheater, i play on pc with mnk no apps open in the background sooo…

[tiny grail]

on dead go boom I don't really agree on picking up enemy statues but definitely needs a better timer. I'd be all for a bigger boom with a longer timer, need to be able to get away, but I like the part that it forces you to move (as opposed to moving the statue)

[peak umbra]

Impulse grenade. A sticky grenade that can launch not only the user but also other players. It doesn't hurt players but the impact zone is smaller than a normal grenade, exploding 1-2 seconds after it hits a surface.

[astral frost]

Problem with aim assist is that it doesn’t have AA or extremely weakened AA for close range (20min), making shots very inaccurate. I believe this bug was created after the AA nerf and don’t think it has been addressed

[acoustic heath]

make it so if you dont have teammates in ranked because they all leave or you just dont get queued with any you dont lose fame

[wind frost]

i think there might have been an error, it seems that the boundless have a "light" player. Can this get patched so we have more medium pleasE?

[quick coyote]

"the meta is shifting and adapting"
tournaments are full M lobbies running the exact same loadout

[waxen granite]

Once embark removes recon every player deserves a hand written apology.

[idle iron]

launch W

[strong escarp]

Game's dumbed down so hard when everyone knows each other's location 24/7.

** R E M O V E**

** T H E**

** R E C O N **

[umbral halo]

Weapons: Custom Scopes would be awesome.

[granite shale]

You should add more sensitivity settings the game sense is too low it needs a higher sensitivity so that I can move my mouse once instead of twice just to move around because when I’m being shot at the game Sensetivity is so low I can’t reach the enemy fast enough because of my mouse dpi

[hard wasp]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game takes 10 seconds to make the game better guys. Remove reocn, add defib as spell. Let's have an enjoyable ranked experience

[reef galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/waffling-gif-26189788

[fierce torrent]

https://youtu.be/98Nq4bP4KvY?si=vHM9j-vcIT0vMTPn

[digital snow]

I've also been trying to inform people and the devs about this issue but there's hasn't been any confirmation by anyone. I wish we would get an answer if it was intentional or not, as it wasn't in the patch notes

[shut pendant]

I don’t really go on here much but I just wanted to say, if any devs see this, y’alls game is awesome so far and I’m loving it. Please don’t fall into the same traps big game development companies fall into, just listen to the public and focus on making the gameplay better. Thanks guys.

[lone jolt]

https://youtu.be/98Nq4bP4KvY?si=TFtKE1seNIkYTOkx Pls Changsha that

[pale moon]

Is console getting m&k back? Or should I just Uninstall? If not I kinda wish I could just get a refund on my battlepass at this point.

[upper citrus]

remove aim assist entirely tbh

[mental cipher]

they did what do u mean

[rocky verge]

I can’t wait until this chat becomes super friendly (:

[solemn obsidian]

just started playing a few weeks ago and really loving the game, anybody else think the stun gun is a bit op though? other than that i just wish they had a team deathmatch, the game would be perfect

[quick coyote]

You have failed rule 1 of the internet.
Do not feed the trolls.

[olive epoch]

Game's dumbed down so hard when everyone knows each other's location 24/7.

** R E M O V E**

** T H E**

** R E C O N **

[wanton quarry]

They didnt fix it with the hotfix?

Embark - Fix AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[jovial lark]

Add more xp way for battle pass bcs like when whe complete a contract, It feel like it did nothing

[sour bane]

Remove recon

[vast quail]

Remove recon

[wind frost]

Remove recon

[acoustic storm]

Just remove recon

[waxen granite]

Remove recon its ass

[lean barn]

buff recon too weak

[regal estuary]

https://i.imgur.com/TUfa9Gr.png and i still didnt win... is it just me or do i ALWAYS get brand new players......i mean i know they did ok but like... with my stats we still didnt win... thats what im more so complaing about @smoky storm

[hoary turtle]

You’re pretty damn good , however , they aren’t bad.

[smoky storm]

What are you complaining about? Your teammates were doing just fine. They are literally above avg in that lobby. You are complaining about absolutely nothing at all.

[past bloom]

Is this blacklight retribution, cause ere' body got wall hacks.

[upper citrus]

but like again

[void radish]

the crash bug is still here

[mental cipher]

there is legit no aa go into setting and turn off all the aim assist and see if there's a difference as well as the other three settings. its exactly the same on and off. They never said anything but they did something too it.

[vague wadi]

I wrote a bunch of thoughts here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4133808627035615266/

[hard wasp]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game sign this so we can show the devs aim hacks have no place in the game. Replace recon with defib and we can have a healthy meta outside of MMM stackers boring as hell fcar madness

[shrewd vine]

Once again asking for a nerf to recon senses or full removal - and not doing a cosmetic nerf to gaslight the player base into thinking its any worse. Just played a single walls, double walls triple walls full medium lobby. Absolutely not a fun experience. If I wanted this experience I'd go back to playing TF2 where theres countless cheaters with actual walls I can fight.

Very next game queued into the same exact walls.

[gloomy wraith]

Ok bot

[digital snow]

The hotfix was for the bloom thing, there's been no mention if AA under 20 meter being off is a bug or not

@mental cipher I've tested this extensively and all parts os the AA are working, it's just AA Slowdown is off under 20 meters. That's why it feel like AA is almost completely off, because Slowdown is the one that helps with tracking

[austere pebble]

can yall make the turrets quieter

[quick coyote]

A certified Non Binary?

[regal estuary]

this guy hates me for some reason, no clue why guy needs to write a paragraph explaining why my score doesnt matter.. like leave me alone lmao .. noone cares

[quartz lake]

Nah i think we need a nef to melees, im tired of a dashin invis 200 one shot melee light player bum fukin me every round.

[warm hound]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game sign this so we can show the devs aim hacks have no place in the game. Replace recon with defib and we can have a healthy meta outside of MMM stackers boring as hell fcar madness

[sour bane]

Anyone that says Recon needs nerf is just bad at the game. The counter exists. Use Recon. Gosh people want everything nerfed these days. Or kill the medium with recon first 🙄

[woven hawk]

If you need kb/m I'd buy a pc

[quick coyote]

the devs have been really good at not listening to the loud minority so far. i hope that trend keeps up, this game will be mint as soon as the bloom hotfix drops (:

[hoary turtle]

Well whatever, my point is that if you’re hitting 4K combat 4K support , you aren’t bad. He might not be as good as I said he was but I just think the rest of the game wasn’t bad. That’s average for sure. Not new. Maybe I’m not reading your message with the right tone. I think im just missing the point maybe.

[potent meadow]

I think its already live

[bronze pumice]

would be cool if completing contracts granted some exp to your equipped weapons, gadgets and specialisations. would give them use once you've finished battlepass and levels

[undone kestrel]

Option to put the hood up on a hoodie should really be added all these hoodies and the worst one has it

[olive epoch]

maybe one of the stupidest comments lol :DD its a fucking wallhack, no matter what u rank is. Im in diamond and just hate it, it gonna kill game. Did you need recon? Are you bad in the game? 🤡

[twilit leaf]

Hotfix the game and remove recon senses

[molten trail]

if they don't remove recon next patch im uninstalling this game for good, and ive spent $200 on it, it literally makes the game unplayable, especially during the finals match where u can't flank or really do anything in 3vs3, especially as a light where they always know where u are 24/7 and prefire u and chase u down, its bizarre and probably the most op thing i've seen in any fps game ever

[sudden spire]

These are good suggestions. Maybe the trophies could be inside a transparent, bamb-shaped orb until they explode, to more clearly communicate they are a dangerous

[quick coyote]

i think light should be fixed we do pittance in damage and util is very weak and the best ones are often situational (not stun gun) grapple should also have better cooldown or more charges as it really limits its capability (maybe a better way to conserve momentum too). I've had enough of being 4 shot by about every other classes weapon in existence light needs a shot at the medium - heavy meta (also maybe fix heavy or balance other classes to have similar strength). Lights movement isnt enough compensation for the hp and damage sacrifice you are making the most fun class in the game nye impossible to play.

[barren pelican]

Maybe get better at knowing the radius of recon and outplaying your opponents? Just sounds like you're bad?

[shrewd vine]

This is the laziest approach to this problem, actually insane. The point is people want to run specializations other than recon but are forced into it because of how sheerly powerful is. There is a direct correlation in my ranked games of how many recon mediums are on your team and how many cashouts you cap. If Embark care, they should not like that their whole playerbase is running 1 specialization when they have multiple available. If you don't run recon, you get your ass beat, simple as.

[wind frost]

What?

[regal estuary]

yeah agreed its all.. nerf this .. nerf that when most of the time its just them not knowing what the counter for it is.. or basic know how of game mechanics

@quick coyote idk what patch you mean but i remember won the map with the Christmas trees their bloom was set so high it was blinding and it just looked like a massive gas cloud or something lol

honestly i think when it comes to actual weapons, gadgets, classes or anything to do with gameplay it should just be left to the devs.. because most of the people in this chat dont know what their talking about... like nerf recon? .. have you even tried recon? its actually moderately hard to use and if im honest its garbage....and considering lights have invisibility i think its a good counter

i think when it comes to bugs, performance, game modes, maps or anything that's not to do with gameplay it should be a community driven thing.... because anything to do with gameplay its like finding a needle in a haystack... what actually needs changing and not some 10 yr old ranting because hes bad..

for example.. a good thing the devs should add is something to do with left over points you earn from the matches.. because I've unlocked everything..

or general perf fixes, for example my 16 core 5950x goes up to 60- 70 percent usage in this game.. the only other game that sucks it up that much is cyberpunk

also if everyone is so fired up about recon.. what about tracking dart? you just have to hit you once and it lasts almost as long as a full recon sense charge... for the whole team and its not a q ability...if anything id say that's more overpowered

@stoic vine honestly i think perf will be meh for a while... its quite a heavy game and only released recently. heck they only just added an fps limiter lmao

[echo oasis]

Does anyone know if the mouse and keyboard inputs will come back on console?

[stoic vine]

Still getting input lag and stuttering/frame drops in close gunfights after this patch. Are you guys ever going to fix this? I have a 5800X3D and a 4070Ti the game runs well if no enemies are near.

[quick coyote]

The light's name is NB as in Non Binary and Mx as a non gendered honorific? I don't know what they're name is trying to do?

[flat shale]

the finals removed keyboard and mouse last update from Xbox so I made this song so the devs might listen https://clipchamp.com/watch/GrKWomuKTRx

[storm inlet]

honestly a cool rework to the recon can be the thermal vision; u can't see thru walls but you can see enemies clearer in your line of sight, and that makes a cool counter to the invisible

[glacial viper]

game runs too heavily on cpu lmao
u kinda gotta rely on frame generation which is kinda dumb

[potent raven]

they honestly need to buff aim assist

[quick coyote]

the reality is that this game is meant to be played with superior defense tactics that rely on the destructable environment. it is the attacking teams job to manipulate those setups to their favor. recon will not destroy 10 mines on point, get rid of goo covering the cashout, or protect you from layered floor peeks in a building.

each other class has a form of mitigation, whether it be light invisibility, dash, mesh shield, or dome shield. unless you wish to play riot shield, which has plenty of drawbacks, recon is the only thing a medium has to develop mitigation in their kit—even then it requires superior movement to provide value.

the other instance of value provided by recon is being able to surprise the enemy team. heavy doesnt need to because of their AOE and health pool, and lights entire kit helps them achieve this, so why is it problematic that medium also has a method of surprise?

if youll notice, recon only became the witch to chase after the bloom bug that affected every gun except fcar…but BEFORE we found out there was a bug. my theory is that brainlets are riding the coat-tails of a bandwagon which stemmed from an unfortunate injustice that is no longer relevant to the game because of todays hotfix.

[clear juniper]

DO MARKETING

[molten trail]

try playing as a light with teammates that don't have recon against a full team of recons, ur gonna lose 100% of the time

u keep bringing up goo or mines and other bullshit like it's even slightly comparable to recon. Recon is x100000 worse than goo stuck on a vault buddy

[abstract wolf]

PLEASE QUICKLY FIX THIS!

BUG MATCHMAKING WITH PC PLAYER AS CONSOLE PLAYERS

dude, this is getting hella ridiculously annoying after the update no matter if you 2 stacked or 3 stacked with your friend, and no matter if you disable the crossplay settings, you always get f up by pc player, the question is why??? after you HARDLY nerf aim assist and removing the MnK on console then how the hell we going to enjoy the game? how we gonna win? its literally impossible

[cursive tangle]

still upset about constant crashing from angelscript. I crashed last night and despite rejoining and winning the game I lost elo and was suspended from mm for it

[shrewd vine]

Yeah you are absolutely right man, there was not even 1 person who thought wallhacks were bad before the bloom bug. Everyone loved it and it was lauded as one of the greatest achievements in gaming history, so naturally since the bloom bug is fixed no one will complain about it anymore since that was the problem.

Oh wait, everything I just said was wrong. Silly me!

[brave plover]

PLEASE NERF FCAR EMBARK <3

[regal estuary]

oh... i know the fix for that... at least for me... i just diabled any overlays on the game.... for me thats what causes the angelscript crash... on 2 pcs too

like chat is just full of people like the person above me... if you wish to give feedback... give actual feedback... not nerf "whatever your trash against here" @brave plover yet another example of this @thorn elbow

at this point i just think this chat if full of 12 yr olds

recon is completely balanced... fr everyone is like delusional or somthing lmfao

@grave void animations? wdym?

@fervent treethat was ages ago.. we get it point proved. i was purely just annoyed with the amount of value i had in that game and i still lost

[sour bane]

Yeah bro. I'm Bronze 5 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets should through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for this accessibility 🙏

[grave void]

can you add animations when we join a party or someone joins a party

[thorn elbow]

NERF FCAR NERF RECON

[sage bison]

I respect you a lot for admitting to your disability, a lot of the others in this chat aren't as strong

[sudden tangle]

devs, just watch this 10 min video, this guy did the job for you. literally just do what he says and the game will be so much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Nq4bP4KvY

[daring salmon]

Pls add Niko Avocado skin for heavy and Verbalase skin for light

[tame moth]

get good

[vestal widget]

autosprint at least for controller would be nice

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[echo oasis]

Please bring back keyboard and mouse input on console please I will sacrifice a lamb, become a monk, find the cure for cancer, release Silksong, find the One Piece, defeat Chuck Norris, please please I can't stand moving like a turret and losing against pc players please devs

[molten trail]

yeah agreed, while we're at it let's give lights a specialization where they can press Q to spinbot for 10 seconds, but to make it less op let's make it pulse instead, that'll solve the problem! the spinbot will only activate every other second which will give enemies time to run out of the way. to counter it, just use recon obviously and don't peek

And for heavy let's just give them actual nukes that destroy half the map. Just run to the other side using ziplines or a jump pad or something. Obviously there's a counter to everything as flare says.

[regal estuary]

a lot of what this guy is saying is just like most of the people in chat..... "make light viable again" "light is very weak.. super weak. litterly get two tapped by a heavy" bruh... this cha is just full of people that need to play the game more than chat here honestly ..

[sour bane]

Can we give kudos to Embark that they leveled the playing field for terminally ill patients like me missing half the portion of my brain, I just press Q and I instantly know where my enemy team is. This AAA studio has done more for accessibility in gaming than any other company. They single-handedly destroyed the Finals hacking community because Q gives you the same thing and it's endorsed by the devs. Respect for that!!! 💯 💯 💯

[hollow summit]

honest take here, the game feels hard to enjoy unless you are playing recon and fcar because together they are just so much more powerful than anything else. I like playing light, but lately when I hop in a quick cash I'm constantly getting outplayed and outgunned by people on recon fcar and its really not fun. My suggestion would be to make it so recon can't see people standing still and just nerf the fcar a bit.

[wind frost]

Sounds like some liberal woke talk, I don't know about all that

[gusty mountain]

Steam: all files successfully validated.
2 random Ranked Crashes: missing angel script
edit: 3rd crash 🙂
edit: seems like it's a crash day

[barren pelican]

I think at this point all classes need a passive slot. Where its not an action and its a card or ability that requires no input. Possible cards (maybe they are all generic for all classes or maybe some specific like they treat equipment and weapons)

Hps/Sec - Self/Aura
Damage Reduction % - self
Reload Speed % - Self
Ability recharge % - Self/Aura
Extra defense charge {x} - Self
Extra offense charge {x} - Self

That and all classes have a generic standard increase:
-Light: +10% movespeed (yes on top of what they already get)
-Med: 5% Ability CD
-Heavy: 5% Overall damage reduction

I think including auras in general would provide more unity with teams and make lone wolf play minimal which is what the game needs imo.

All theory/feedback.

[hearty cape]

Please let us use more sense on scope / zoom weapons. I play on low sense and when I ads I cant play. It's super slow. Like why limit it? Also the crosair needs improvements. I'm using my built in corsair just because the in game is that bad

[uncut carbon]

same issue, drivers and windows uptodate. sfc /scannow returns no currupt files found. we were both using shields. the crashes were usually occouring when climbing / vaulting or using a zip line

[noble steppe]

Nope between the recon being 80% of the meta and the aimbotters with 100% headshots everywhere, I'm taking a break.

Games not fun guys.

If you can't fix the anticheat problems, you need to seriously adjust the matchmaker.

I'm simply not going to continue playing and putting money into a game that puts me against cheaters 24/7.

[frail prawn]

Clearly you havent used recon, it doesnt have a counter at all, and it counters not only invi, but also stealth in general and melee weapons you can use it to know where a team in coming from and when to start shooting if someone is gonna take a peak on a corner

Tracking dart asks you to first see the enemy and be able to shoot him, its not overpowered since it requieres at least to shoot it correctly and its not a global thing than let you watch any player of the match at the same time

[hollow shoal]

Anyone defending recon is actually just trolling lol. Anyone who has ever played any FPS ever knows an ability that gives you literal wall hacks is always strong and is usually severely limited or has a long CD. For some reason in the finals it's like "yeah you just get to see everyone across the map for pretty much as long as you want" lol even recon mains know it's crazy, that's why they are using it and you're dumb if you aren't running recon on your squad lol

[mystic gyro]

Recon needs to be like thermal vision, turn it on and you can't turn it off. I think that's a good way to nerf it

[molten trail]

yea, and u also cant use ur gun while using tracking dart. u can have recon enabled while shooting and prefiring ppl. i often just enable recon and chase people down and they can't hide anywhere, feels like im cheating blatantly. then when i go against another recon player, we're both looking at each other through the walls and both about to prefire each other, its silly really

[calm lily]

Current Major Problems [Post Patch Notes 1.5.0 Update] (IMO):
-boring experience in ranked (MMM with recon everywhere), suggestion would be to prevent duplicate classes in ranked match if hard to balance (HML)
-remove random events in ranked match, too RNG dependent (the dead go boom is the worst)
-dagger attack animation can just disappear when attacking, can't tell if you can hit the target
-unmentioned "nerf" to dagger's secondary attack is unnecessary (can't hold anymore)
-cash box can be stuck in the void and later disappear
-unbalanced matchmaking, weird matchmaking logic that possibly puts solo-queue player with lowest ranked/new players if hidden rating is high
-solo-queue players having to fight against pre-made teams
-unbalanced team wipe respawn locations
-no rewards to earn after finishing the battle pass and getting to max level (40)
-3000/3000 credits being useless after unlocking everything

repost for better reach

[sour bane]

I don't think anyone's going to complain if you replace Recon Sense with a set of binoculars that lets you have the same ability. Heat Vision requires you to pull something out to activate it, I don't understand how an ability significantly better than that is a simple Q. lmao.

Hello, devs? Balance team? Are you awake? Are you listening?

Wake up, you just launched with the most busted ability I've seen in a FPS in a long time.

[umbral halo]

Specilizations: Reacon should have 3 use’s, cooldown per use begins after activation (like dashing) and it functions like a Sonar Grenade but only pings out once per use.

[gloomy wraith]

Current Major Problems [Post Patch Notes 1.5.0 Update] (IMO):
-boring experience as light in ranked (MMM with recon everywhere), suggestion would be to prevent duplicate classes in ranked match if hard to balance (HML)
-dagger attack animation can just disappear when attacking, very annoying as you cannot tell if it can hit
-unnecessary unmentioned "nerf" to dagger's secondary attack, can't hold anymore
-cash box can be stuck in the void and later disappear
-unbalanced matchmaking, weird matchmaking logic that possibly puts solo-queue player with lowest ranked/new players if hidden rating is high
-solo-queue players having to fight against teams with communications
-weirdly unbalanced respawning locations
-no rewards to earn after finishing the battle pass and getting to max level (40)
-3000/3000 credits being useless after unlocking everything

repost for better reach @calm lily

[proud ocean]

Recon has always been there. And didn’t see so many complaints. Even if I think it needs a rework, I’m curious to know what has changed now that makes everyone upset and screaming against it?? Wonder what the next enemy will be when they nerf it.

[broken lake]

we should give embark a bit of time to figure out the newer patches. These things take time, and while they haven't nerfed medium yet, I trust that they are still listening.

I also expect they're quite busy fixing the recoil and spread bug currently.

if they haven't nerfed medium and decently buffed light in that patch, I think we'll have a very good reason to be pretty pissed. But they can't immediately fix recon and other such things at the speed of light.

hopefully we'll get another patch soon that will fix this, but until then, could we please stop being so damn vitriolic?

[tame pivot]

it just took a while to take hold, just like nukes were ignored by the playerbase until the end of open beta

[vernal plaza]

It is odd, nobody cared until one day everybody suddenly did, I’m not aware of any change or update that day either, interesting phenomenon

[quick coyote]

i made a message about this a little while ago that completely agrees with you.

sadly a lot of people dont understand game development, and when they get exactly what they ask for it /actually/ breaks the game.

screamers that log more hours on forums than the actual game are the reason overwatch is one of the worst competitive games around; the devs have always listened to their community.

[short cove]

thanks for fixing the bloom bug, now just fix the red canister that is still usable as a fast nuke and remove recon from the game.

[noble steppe]

Because it wasn't really problematic when most Mediums were running turret or heal ray.

Now (on EU at least) we're experiencing a meta of like 80% recon, it has removed all tactical play from the game.

[jagged ocean]

Pls make rings able to switch from left--> right hand and viceversa

[thorny wren]

they just need to give lights their own anti-recon and create the bizarro defib. Where you instantly one shot someone that's been rezd in the last min by a defib. bwhahah

[shrewd vine]

Remove wallhacks/recon.

As has been said many times before...

-Nullifies movement outplays: (RIP Light players)
-Allows you to strategically avoid engagements with harder teams: (Other triple-recon teams)
-Creates a cat and mouse chasing situation in ranked where you are running away from people for a minute at a time and not playing the objective:
-Makes 1v1s trivial since the recon guy knows where you are (closing a mechanics gap):
-The medium meta (spurred by wallhacks) is destroying play-rates for other characters:
-Just another reason not to run melee builds, as bad as they are already:

To add on, I say remove because I don't believe Embark have the chops to balance it correctly, if their most recent change to it was an attempt at doing so its simply laughable. I'm very jaded with ranked. I just finished my plat rank up game a few minutes ago, and while I got the rank, it felt miserable. The enemy team was triple recon and we didn't get within 10 meters of an objective once. They beamed us across the map as you'd expect and we relegated to give up once they put the box in the last objective.

[calm lily]

Current Major Problems [Post Patch Notes 1.5.0 Update] (IMO):
-boring experience in ranked (MMM with recon everywhere), suggestion would be to prevent duplicate classes in ranked match if hard to balance (HML)
-remove/rework random events in ranked match, too RNG dependent (the dead go boom is the worst)
-dagger attack animation can just disappear when attacking, can't tell if you can hit the target
-unmentioned "nerf" to dagger's secondary attack is unnecessary (can't hold anymore)
-cash box can be stuck in the void and later disappear
-unbalanced matchmaking, weird matchmaking logic that possibly puts solo-queue player with lowest ranked/new players if hidden rating is high
-solo-queue players having to fight against pre-made teams
-unbalanced team wipe respawn locations
-no rewards to earn after finishing the battle pass and getting to max level (40)
-3000/3000 credits being useless after unlocking everything

added one problem and fixed some typo

[quick coyote]

here. rework recon senses this way. you're welcome, embark. oh and remove the fucking defib

[molten trail]

Ok, i'm a programmer with ue5 skills and understand game development. i also have 200 hours on the finals. Recon is op and there were hundreds of complaints even before recently if you read through the discord.

Ppl come on here to scream about recon after they go against it ingame because it's not fun to play against. Use recon yourself and you'll especially notice how OP it is during the last round where u can just sit on rooftops and farm the enemy's spawn. they cant counter it with goo gun or any of the gadgets u often bring up to compare. it just comes down to who aims better, there is no counter to that.

as a light, i often get chased around by the entire enemy team due to recon. my invis does nothing, i can dash through 30 rooms and jump through 30 windows and they still know exactly where i am. i can't carry my teammate's statue anywhere to revive them because they always know where i am. What is the counter to situtations like that exactly? Should i not be able to hide or flank as a light? What's the point of invis if i can't run behind a building and behind the enemy team to flank them if their entire team will just beam me no matter where i go?

[hard wasp]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game make the finals great again.

[sour bane]

Let Defib be cancelable, so if you are shooting STRAIGHT at someone going for a Defib, it cancels it for a second. You shouldn't be able to tank damage and go for a Defib during the middle of a fight.

[lavish shard]

you are pitiful hiding behind the recon to camouflage your pitiful level

[reef jasper]

DEFIB REPLACES RECON

FCAR HEADSHOT MULTI DOWN TO 2.0X NOT 2.5X

[undone kestrel]

Add stim shot to light class as equipment I shouldn’t have to wait 15 seconds to get max health back

[lapis dust]

limit classes to 2 per team, playing vs 3 Mediums who just defib each other is real fun :)

[tiny grail]

I think it should be like a stance break maybe? so maybe not the first bullet(depending on weapon). Idk if the window for charging it up needs to be adjusted or not as I haven't paid enough attention to it.

[frail prawn]

Because it wasn't a "meta", most of the people (usually ranked players) use the things other people use when they are much better

For example, this last days a lot of diamond players use it, then other players follow their builds to be "better" also the streamers/youtubers appears, they share the "New OP meta build that the top 500 players use" and then everything falls... every player focused on being "pro" will use what everybody uses or everybody says its the meta to just win and win.

Nobody noticed it before cuz everyone was enjoying the original gadgets and abilities, the destruction, who will care about a so boring skill like a pasive reacon? fast response: only the meta players will be since, yes, its the most boring skill on the game but its also a literal wallhack, along with the beam of destruction (FCAR) that skill no one used before become broken, cuz it was always broken but it wasn't an issue when only 1 player in the entire round was using it, probably some people said "hey, how that dude knew I was coming from there?" but then you keep playing and forget, now you cant since at least 50% of the match is using it

Before every class had a "meta" Heavy with Nukes, Light with invi+DB and M with... well... defib, MMM teams, recon sight, FCAR, yeah, M did had more meta things than other classes but now, its only M since both Nukes and invi+DB got nerfed (for good ) the thing is than they ignored Med at its total, so yes, it was boring to always see Heavy's with Nukes and half of the Light community using only invi+DB but at least you used to see more than just MMM, they need to also nerf M in order to have every class properly balanced

There always gonna be something Meta and thats okay, but not when it becomes the only viable option

but also, Devs must not forget than listening only to ranked community always kills the games (Aka: Halo, Gears, Overwatch, CoD, etc.), please keep the Fun > Meta

[quick coyote]

i touch medium in bank it from time to time in order to use the cl-40/mine combo (its fun) and use recon when i do.

competitively, i use light dash and heavy charge n slam. i understand being frustrated as an invis user, because that was the intention of recon—to frustrate invis users.

do you comm? the way i see it, you can know where the enemy team is all day and still need to play the game once the engagement starts. its largely a non-factor in my mind, especially because people roof sit without recon.

thats an issue i have with the game, particularly the cashout at bridge buildings roof on seoul (and other points like it). they are un-attackable. one lane with no cover means perfect defense for highground every time.

back to recon though—player knowledge is definitely important, im not calling the specialization weak. what i am trying to convey, though, is that the game is entirely too high octane, chaotic, and highly-damaging to say with confidence that knowing where a person is breaks the game.

i can juke a guy who knows where i am FOREVER because of the movement system, and anyone with a brain will give up eventually because taking fights and winning are contradictory to each other in the finals.

[balmy cargo]

Bro.... you make some good points but please punctuate so we can understand them!

[quick coyote]

I miss Old Halo. Old Halo was so much fun. The game was easy to play and easy to pick up. Yeah people were better than others but even people who were bad were happy that they could still do something because it was so casual.

[glossy glacier]

Yeah bro. I'm Bronze 5 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets should through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for this accessibility 🙏

[woven hawk]

I just want to have a fair chance as a light in ranked

[sterile marsh]

• • • Honest question : APS Turret is supposed to eat enemy bullets... so why does mine never do? I stick inside the radius and I get shot still...Am I missing something? NVM thx youtube...

[glad delta]

Please fix thermal vision. Anyone who doesn't have an object or the arena behind them are completely invisible. I'm hoping for some kind of recognition on this bug.

[wicked crest]

Did the cross play bug get fixed in the hotfix?

[visual basin]

3v3 mode? casual quick cash and ranked quick cash. One game, no tournaments, its quick and easy to rank up, no third party mediums from a team across the map. I think this would be a great addition but maybe im just tripping.

[leaden stag]

nope

[sour bane]

I'm Bronze 5 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets shoOT through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for this accessibility 🙏

[olive epoch]

Btw REMOVE RECON

[real marlin]

Nerf turret, triple med turret op

[valid night]

remove recon replace it with defib

[molten trail]

Recon is definitely most op during the final 3vs3 match where things are less chaotic. I feel like if you have recon and the other team doesn't, you're practically guaranteed to win the last round. This has been my experience with it.

I agree that recon matters less when things are chaotic, but in ranked tourneys, if you're holding a vault and have high ground in a defensive position, you can just call out whenever a team is coming. You can call out where they spawn and your entire team will know where to look in advance. This information is invaluable and completely change's a team's defensive strategy. You no longer have to cover multiple areas, which makes surprise attacks or flanks impossible. If 3 ppl know exactly where to look and have high ground and recon, you're kinda screwed unless you out aim them.

As for seoul / the bridge, the counter play to that is to use the crane.

[undone kestrel]

Tracker GG… / Custom match

[proud ocean]

It blocks grenades, rockets, mines etc

[barren pelican]

Kids don't know how to counter or play against anything these days. Strategy is out and pew pew mommy skins are in.

[shrewd vine]

How do you counter the enemy team knowing where you spawn, preaiming a jump pad or zip (if you are lucky enough to have one - Seoul middle bridge says hello) and being forced to run 50+ meters with no / minimal cover while being pelted by 3 of the best class in the game? The attacking team already has the disadvantage and its only advantage (potential spawn points from different angles) is taken away by recon.

To add on to this, triple medium recon teams can literally have infinite recon because of the charge time vs uptime. They may as well just go to cheat engine at that point and use their specialization slot for something else.

[reef jasper]

DEFIB SHOULD REPLACE RECON

FCAR 2.0X HS MULTI INSTEAD OF 2.5X

devs really want this game to be just 100% of players on medium recon

[quick coyote]

how many hours does it take for me to get a damn level on this game

[bitter dome]

I really want to like this game but between the cheaters and the cheesers this game is just not fun to play

[twilit leaf]

Remove recon before your game dies

[untold haven]

recon is actively ruining this game right now you need to rework this immediately

[waxen granite]

Hey Im not sure anyone has suggested this but you guys need to remove recon.

[potent raven]

mesh shield needs to be nerfed way more its still incredibly overpowered

[sudden spire]

I think recon just needs a way for you to know if someone is spying on you

[trail echo]

I think this recon type can be nerfed like giving you only a 1 second view every 10 secs or so. might balance it a bit - btw I played with a cheater again TacticalKatana#4348

[silent flume]

Please, consider making it so if a team has 2 or more of the same class, they cannot use the same specialization - at least in ranked

Force people to develop strategies utilizing more than just one ability

[sacred siren]

need skin that puts cat ears on turret

[sour bane]

buff recon, i have half a brain i need all the help i can get

[placid valley]

that just makes people wait for hell long time or force people to keep dying and looting light. light is totally trash at the moment. Just fking nerf medium. There's no reason not to nerf that shit.

[vocal shadow]

why is this not a thing already? why can light have 2 specializations equipped and every other class is stuck with having the option for only 1 at a time?

[hard wasp]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game make the game balanced. Remove recon, replace with defib as ability. There you go.

[main pond]

https://youtu.be/98Nq4bP4KvY?si=VVCSZrwO2KmntG2m

#1 Light speaking facts

[frosty sonnet]

Because thermal vision isn’t a real “ability”

[upper citrus]

if you put a second of thought into that you would realize that recon DENIES so much strategy and counterplay because it’s nearly perma uptime wallhacks. full transparency of everything that everyone is doing completely gets rid of the ability to flank or tame anyone by surprise

[untold haven]

the issues with recon are things that cant really be measured so it's hard to gauge what the issue is, it only serves to enhance players that are already extremely capable, intel is the most important thing in a game like this where the attacker is inherrently at a disadvantage and it takes forever to regen health passively, ive been saying since CB1 that it would be an issue once players learn how to utilize it properly and they fucking HAVE now

[calm lion]

Anyone else feel they should add sprint by default as an option I got used to that in other games so pressing left stick sometimes feels tedious after coming from a game that has it

[toxic shadow]

recon has infinite range, looks like someone doesnt even play the game

[visual basin]

why isnt there a 'My Bad!" comm?

[median coyote]

Add Destruction mode: Which team can rack up the most damage to the arena in the time limit... Tear it all down!

[woeful arch]

❤️ Just a note of appreciation for the battle pass skin of the jump pad, "SETI stepper". It's so shiny and different from the other designs, love it. Hope we get to see more fancy jump pad designs in the future (not just different skins around the base, more like unique new meshes).

[twilit leaf]

Hotfix the game before you are off for the weekend and delete fucking recon, also let me cook grenades

[sudden spire]

I like this idea 👀

[nimble steppe]

Plz talk about mnk on console
So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!
Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬
When I play with mouse and keyboard on the console the game automatically turn off the aim assist when I written and a play with the controller again the aim assist is back automatically so when the divs nerve the aim assist on console a players they delete the mouse and keyboard on the on the consoles because the aim assist is not like before so this is the devs
problem not mien ?

TALK ABOUT IT PLZZZZZ😢
#WE_NAED_MNK_ON_CONSOLS_THE_FINALS

[reef jasper]

remove recon

[narrow forge]

Add a stat for the amount of health given by heal beam in my career ,like revives or damage delt

[frail prawn]

Following the Pro players opinion is never a good idea for balancing a game, even when he has some good points, its better if we just repeat the points we think are good instead of saying "pro player say this" like if they had a superior opinion, this game is beautiful and has beautiful potential but it can easily become another boring CoD, Halo or GoW where everything become boring due to the devs listening to the "Pro's" community

[void scarab]

just check the support stat?

[brave plover]

THE FRAMERATELIMIT DOESNT SAFE AFTER GAME RESTART; SET MANUALLY FPS CAP IN CONFIG DOESNT WORK SINCE THE LAST PATCH! ingame option just let me set 350,355,360 (5r steps) but i want 357 for the best monitor experience, please fix this :( ... and since the last patch i have a realy high mouse input lagg, these game doesnt feels right at this time time ... please fix this, embark <3

[placid valley]

they are already off. ggs. I didn't find any infos about the balance from the last patch note. They obviously don't want to make fking changes that quickly. Enjoy your broken game for the next one or a few weeks 🤣

[main pond]

Not blindly following his opinion.. I already had in mind close to 90% of his balance proposals, as do most people that are posting here it seems.

[quick coyote]

Please rework Recon Omg.

[calm lion]

I just want sprint by default on controller getting off a game that has it then going to this it sometimes feels tedious

[bleak vector]

** DAY 3 OF ASKING TO REMOVE WALL HACKS.. I MEAN RECON SENSES FROM THE GAME **

[valid night]

roll back lh1 to OB version

[mystic gyro]

Remove red cannister, shit is so unfun to play against. At least the other cannisters had instant drawbacks when you shot at them and are bigger(easier to shoot down before he throws).

[junior ridge]

how can you possibly call every ability in the game op

[twilit leaf]

Your game will be dead by next month, stop being fucking lazy and delete recon senses from the game. Dont fucking nerf the cooldown, get rid of the fucking ability.

[sour bane]

I'm Bronze 5 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets shoot through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for accessibility for us disabled gamers 🙏

[shy onyx]

Wrong, the game will be dead by next month if they don’t add any more gadgets and guns it’s getting hella boring using the same stuff over and over and over again.. please add stuff before this great game dies

[glad delta]

thermal vision is really not that good on its own

[stable badger]

I can't find any matches in ranked only in asia. This started happening since the latest update

[rancid kelp]

c4 does not feel nerfed lmao

[boreal fable]

Increase the trigger radius of the invis bomb. You have to be really close and when you account for server side movement it makes this hard to get your team with.

[hard wasp]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game sign to get the damn wallahck out of the game it's ridiculous. If I hear that sound again i go nuts, so i will go nuts

[steep ibex]

can dev start banning cheaters in ranked tournament? i mean even if creating ID and start cheating again is free, the cheaters need to grind 60 games which maybe deter them to play ranked

[daring fossil]

games been on a slow decline for about a week, the Aim assist nerf patch brought some people back, but it still continues to trend downward, then patch 1.5 lost 10,000 peak players overnight (great patch guys).

[gleaming frost]

crossplay off is still not working. I go ranked tournament on PS5 with crossplay off and we get matched against PC, standing no chance, since we did not even stand a chance before AA nerf let alone now.
Its a coin toss if you are against PC on PS5 atm, even with crossplay off

[unkempt silo]

Any news on whats happening with the battlepass next season? Will the current one go away and be locked or will it still be active you just need to choose which one you grind? (Like Halo)

[junior badge]

nerf on the amount of xp needed for battlepass

[wicked crest]

Devs obviously missing that cross play is on no matter what right now and needs to be addressed. Need more to mention it so it doesn't get overlooked again.

[coral axle]

Matching making with 300,000 fame players is not fun

[finite dew]

they not that good

[reef jasper]

This game is so borderline unplayable in competitive because of the chaos caused by 90% of players having wall hacks

REMOVE RECON FFS

REPLACE RECON WITH DEFIB

Just do soemthing….

[elfin swallow]

Idk if it’ll be good in this game but maybe consider adding a radar like in Destiny that tells you the general direction of enemies in a certain radius but not their exact location. This should help with some of the frustration with recon because the positional info wouldn’t be so one sided

[tepid trench]

Day 3 Of asking for kill cams

[sudden tangle]

please make the L meta in comp. recon gone, defib nerfed, red cannister nuke also nerfed, L health regen, auto shotgun nerfed

[upper citrus]

remove recon

[vocal shadow]

a lot of things aren't very good on their own but that doesn't mean a specialization gets thrown into a gadget slot for any other class.

[finite wind]

I don't want everything to be nerfed, because the game would become sad but after 200 hours using all 3 classes I would recommend:

MEDIUM:
1- defibrillator: the revived player must be able to be hit immediately, actually he remains invulnerable for about 2 seconds. TOO OP!
2- healing beam: reduce the HP it heals per second.
3- recon: make it similar to the sonar grenade, which scans in pulses

HEAVY:
1- mesh shield: reduce the size of the shield, or alternatively that allied shots do not pass through it. It's a much stronger ability than charge and slam and goo gun.
2- the c4 must also slow down the red gas cylinder when you put it on.

LIGHT:
1- grapple: reduce the cooldown, or a better option is to be able to use it 2 times in a row almost like the dash
2- one way to buff the light without touching the gadgets and weapons would be to make him recover health faster than other classes.

[oak kernel]

Tbh, it really does feel like this game needs this at times. Maybe it could replace recon lol. Destiny's radar is pretty general direction rather than exact location, so I think it would work. Or maybe something like peace walker's sound radar.

[quick coyote]

Elevators: please stop placing objectives in there, we can’t do anything if someone’s spamming goo gun, even gassing and trying to destroy it

[sour bane]

I'm Bronze 5 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets shoOT through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for this accessibility 🙏

[rose surge]

I generally agree with these except mesh shield. Heavies are already a little underpowered to be honest. Instead of nerfing mesh shield, buff goo gun and maybe small buff to charge and slam although I think Charge and Slam is already in a good place. It's extremely useful if you know what you're doing.

[chrome merlin]

Lmao hell nah heavy is in a good spot. His whole point is being able to shield and help caping objectives, I say this as a light main

[daring fossil]

@wicked crest See #game-announcements it wasn't overlooked and was addressed, you guys just don't look anywhere/read anything.

[vast quail]

Recon in every game

Regen takes way too long so if not recon then its heal beam

Mesh shield is lame too

[glad delta]

it does to me and I don't run heavy. That's probably good that it still feels potent but nukes aren't as bad like a definite improvement. I think nerfing c4 was a good nerf.

LH1 feels a little better but it's still not great considering someone blasting you with full auto needs less than 5 hits on you versus you needing to place 3 aimed shots that unless you're eating someone's ass you can't because any amount of damage will cause you to flinch wildly making you miss any shot

I think make it so light's regen begins a couple seconds sooner. Like 1.5 or 2 like not a lot

Nerf turret health, I think the damage is aight, but their hitbox has a hole in the middle and that kinda sucks too

Everyone says recon needs a nerf, or removal. I say, limit its range to a short-medium range area at max. Make it ping like sonar. Maybe add a delay so people don't get their information immediately after springing it.

Buff smoke nades. They don't really see much use. I think just AOE bump would make them more interesting.

let c4 and breach charges stick directly to the riot shield. It would make some nice counterplay for it. maybe you could get rid of it by switching off.

honestly this game has so much style and potential I would hate to see it die from balance issues. I understand this shit is hard enough to balance without high ttk and the creative freedom that you've given players thus far. in any case good luck, Embark.

[abstract iron]

When I play The Final I often have the problem that my CPU reaches 100 percent utilization in one round and then the game crashes. I have a Ryzen 5 5600x and an RTX3060TI, I'm already gaming on low graphics. I like playing the game, but with such a CPU and crashes it's no fun, that's since the penultimate update. But I still enjoy playing it.

[reef jasper]

Recon should be permanently enabled for mediums

Buff the FCAR damage

Full health revives on defibs, keep immunity, and double the time on it

Mediums need more health and faster movement speed

All medium guns should have +10 in magazine with a minimum 3.0x headshot multi

Screw it MORE health , they should have at least more than heavies

Make their melee act as a DEFIB so they can run more utilities

Mediums should have invis and mesh shield as well

Double their jump height

Skins from store only available to medium builds

Game auto closes if you pick any class other than medium
Game auto bans people who bypass the above protocol

[hard wasp]

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-recon-senses-wallhack-from-the-game

[visual basin]

ADD MORE CHARACTERS OF COLOR, 2?!? but 5 white

[shy onyx]

Jeez relax it ain’t that serious

[manic gust]

Nahh the main thing yall should do Is make better highlights for weapon skins with all of their unique changes like I just saw a video where dude showcased the slugger and found out it has an awesome animation with a ball that you actually throw in the arena...

SHOW IT TO PEOPLE And i`m sure youll convince more people to buy it...

Otherwise love the game, most fun I ever had in a video game

[quick coyote]

3 Asians (2 Females of the same face where one is older? And one Male) (2 Indians Male and Female) (2 Blacks One Male and Female) (3 Whites one Male, One Female, One Ginger Female and is battle pass). There is not 5 white faces.

C4 doesn't have SELF-damage falloff so they instakill you from absurd ranges

[sour bane]

I'm Bronze 5 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets shoOT through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Defib is too weak, I should just be able to look at my teammate and they will revive. Why do I need to position myself on top of them? What a waste of time.

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for this accessibility 🙏

[real marlin]

Nerf invis double barrel for light, and rest is fine

[daring fossil]

apparently having a controller/joystick plugged in raises CPU usage for no apparent reason. Also, limit your FPS instead of leaving it on unlimited has been reported to help.

@visual basin there's 1 white male, and 2 white females (after battlepass) theres 2 asian females and 1 asian male, theres 1 black male and 1 black female, and theres 1 middle eastern male and 1 middle eastern female. You're literally complaining about something that doesn't exist.

@real marlin they did already, although the cloak nerf was basically a non-nerf, they need to stop adjusting cooldowns and values and actually put in effort and rework things.

@vague wadi because the devs are memeing on the game with their updates

[vague wadi]

Why are there so many troll/meme posts in this channel? It's not funny, guys, you're burying legitimate feedback.

@molten trail Recon got nerfed. Asking for an ability to be completely removed from the game is too large of a change for 1 patch.

[molten trail]

3000 people asked for recon to be removed and they didnt touch it, so feedback doesnt always work.

[pulsar flare]

Shutup

[reef jasper]

REPLACE RECON WITH DEFIB

OR

JUST REMOVE RECON

sincerely… like almost everybody

[desert flame]

Can y'all please fix games starting with 0 teammates... literally no way to win and I can't leave without getting penalized

[undone cobalt]

fix whatever this is

[sudden tangle]

so does embark not care about L being meta in ranked?

[flat hazel]

i think my whole server crashed because i melee'd an window as heavy

[void scarab]

i'm getting seriously annoyed by all these defibs... i had 50 HP, i kill the dude with my sledge, just for his teammate to pop in > instant rez and i get killed by 2 guys.. how is that fair ?

[lusty shale]

Can we get black flashbang instead of white?

[idle timber]

Add mouse and keyboard support for console. We already had it before so it was useless to remove an extra way to play on a game that’s already cross play

[quick coyote]

its fair because the person defibbing must use a startup animation that last as long as the highest ttk weapon, and then the defibbed has 1 second of invul before being at the mercy of a team with half health

[lunar lava]

We gotta fix this matchmaking was canceled thing that happens

[daring fossil]

this happens if you are standing in a window or door frame or confined space too, and it's gotten me killed dozens of times.

[visual basin]

Hey what do we thing about buffing the larges to have 400 health instead of 350? eh? and maybe give them another shield option to shoot from and not being able to be hit. Also you could make their melee a bit stronger, in fact maybe buff it so that when they just look at you they kill you! Sounds great. Buff recon so that you can shoot through walls and auto lock onto the players cross-map. Since your promoting hacking, could you add flying? oh wait there already is with this shit ass trash ass easy anticheat, 4 for 4 at wendys budget anticheat.

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for either a themepark map or a film backlot map

[dry lichen]

If it had to be reworked, Recon Sense should only show people making noise, and should cut off the farther they are and less noise they make.
Lights cloak makes noise and a lot when they are moving- so they should be very visible when cloaked but otherwise very feint when they aren’t super close.
Heavies should be seen from a significant distance and mediums a moderate distance.
A medium using recon sense makes a lot of noise, and another medium using recon sense at the same time should see a ping resonate from the other RS medium.

[distant sluice]

please, PLEASE, update the friends user interface. make it so you don’t see your 40 other friends online on steam, make it so you can see who’s ACTUALLY in the game. Make it so you can see others stats, others levels, allow you to click on their steam profile so I can actually contact new teammates. this wish.com overwatch interface ain’t cuttin it.

[molten trail]

if the devs actually read this chat or asked for streamers / pro player's opinions, they would've removed or revamped recon last patch.

people are only trolling now because no one is listening, no announcements are being made. the cm's could at least mention "we're aware that recon is op and devs are looking into solutions for the next patch" and that would shut everyone up, but they're just silent, the devs are silent, and we have no clue if they're aware of the issue or not

there were already thousands of messages related to recon being op before last patch, yet nothing was done about it. it wasn't nerfed. i personally can't tell a difference from using it before / after the last patch

so why would ppl repeatedly say "remove recon" 100000000 more times if they just ignored everyone last patch, it's becoming a joke and it's why everyone is treating it as such. Everything was nerfed from nukes to invis to stun gun, except for the most op thing in the entire game

[vagrant raptor]

wont that change the settings on my guns too though? i don’t want a bandaid fix where i have to go into settings and adjust it again when i switch to a gun mid match. the riot shield needs it own slider for ads turn speed. or it should just be the same speed all the time.

[fresh prism]

Am i the only one to crash to night pls ? Game freezes then crash

[undone cobalt]

Recon got nerfed slightly, really only the ability to tap it, but it still needs to be nerfed into only being able to see people moving/running imo

[desert flame]

Last game I had 0 teammates the whole way through, this time one disconnected so the other raged and now I'm alone again... please do something. I understand you think region locking is xenophobic but having people constantly drop out has nothing to do with the person, it's the connection...

[brazen zodiac]

This game is garbage now when it first launched this game it was so freaking fun I even enjoyed losing now... I can't stand this game man you... Wish they would just put it back to the way it was buff back up to heavy cuz you don't even see them and fights anymore all you have is life's a mediums running around controller players can't aim where the crap now because of the aim assist this game is just sucks now I hate it I wish it was back to the way it was when I enjoyed it

[hardy narwhal]

its fun bois

[eager rivet]

Controller needs gyroscope for this game

[tepid trench]

Day 2 of asking that 3000 diamonds can be converted into 5 multi bucks

[scenic ember]

Will devs planning to bring back Kmb on xbox? i like this game. but its sad that im now forced to play on controller. I dont get it until this super update (irony) it works well

[blissful bridge]

"Everything was nerfed from nukes to invis to stun gun, except for the most op thing in the entire game"

Those were the most OP things in the game and everyone cried about them so the devs nerfed them.

The meta changed though didn't it?

Nerfs never balance anything.

[pulsar flare]

nah you got aim assist otherwise the "you use your full arm" argument is out the window and AA should be removed

[wind frost]

Recon in every game

Regen takes way too long so if not recon then its heal beam

Mesh shield is lame too

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[earnest ermine]

Gyro is a piece of shit and I'm tired of people it's the next step in controller aiming

I've given it a shot in Fort and COD and trust me, you'd be better off with KB&M rather than trying to compromise with its child

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for more visual feedback when both of your teammates are dead, and you dying will result in a team wipe. Having to look in the bottom left and see if they have skulls or healthbars takes too much time in the heat of the moment, and doesn't show the urgency of staying alive in that moment

[abstract iron]

i dont use a joystick ore anything like that, i play on keybord and mous

[visual basin]

lol just look at the screen, its a really big blue indicator that they are not alive and also it takes .3 seconds to determine if there is a skull on the bottom of your screen\

[daring fossil]

but any kind of controller device plugged in whether it's in use or not

[gritty pendant]

Dose anyone got some problems with ranked? My m8s and I are all Gold and we got in many round Diamond 1 Teams. Its a lil bit frustrating to play agains teams like this. When we are playing against Gold Teams we are winning with 3-4 Cashouts the Round. Is this a hidden MMR problem or just strange Matchmaking. We love to play this game but when u eat shit in every round against top 1000 players the fun is fading.

[molten trail]

Honestly, another solution to make recon less op is to just separate solo Q from full stack lobbies. It's part of the reason recon is so aids to fight against cuz even in solo q i find myself going against top 500 lobbies filled with full stacks / recon, it's just not fun when everyone's sweating and has comms and ur stuck with solo teammates that've never played together. it's inherently unfair

[obsidian solar]

In that case yeah, it's not an issue for me because i ONLY use the shield

[scenic heart]

Anyone know why i keep getting put into crossplay lobbies when i have it off ?

[hard wasp]

useless weapon, unfortunately. The game has many wacky fun weps like the melees but they are just non factors. You cannot sneak up on anyone or flank anything because of the busted recon meta + fcar shooting with sniper range.
I tried everything in this game, and this will probably lead to me quitting it since there will be no big update very soon. The meta is so stale that it's just counterstrike with rez. Nothing interesting happens. All I hear is that stupid awful recon sound effect. I never in my life quit a game because of an ability but The Finals is slowly getting me there.

[vagrant raptor]

new bug. i thought i was being put in games with pc players because my first game some dude went like 25/4. the devs need to put the playstation icon instead of that weird circle with the web so i know which platform im playing against.

[plucky torrent]

hotfix needed a recon sense nerf

[blissful bridge]

The best nerf to Recon Senses would be making it non-togglable and increasing the volume of it's audio cue.

That keeps it's function as it is currently, but will stop people spamming it in fights. It'll make it's use more tactical.

The audio cue will help when in close proximity so you know when someone has it active.

This will help keep it fun and powerful but make it used more sparingly.

@molten trail Ranked and casual both play differently from each other.

Ranked is filled with players maximizing there chance to win. So they always choose the best optimal loadouts.

Balancing for ranked concerns will throw the game into an unending mess of balancing issues because of the way it's played.

The game needs to be balancing around the experience and style it's trying to deliver.

There are far more popular titles that have been ruined by constant nerfs and buffs stemming from the competitive fanbase.

[modern wedge]

text chat pls

[wanton dove]

Best nerf to Recon Sense is removing it completely.

[eager barn]

Nerf Mediums.. Jeez.. how bad can you be at updating????

[foggy orbit]

Why are people upset that the vast majority of player base hate recon senses and want to do everything they can to make the developers aware that it's in a brutally oppressive and unfun state right now? We have to make our voices heard if we're going to get the correct changes done, those that can't handle the criticisms of others and try to supress them are hurting the game in the long run.

[sour bane]

I'm Bronze 5 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets shoOT through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for this accessibility and catering to people like me with major intellectual disabilities 🙏

I LITERALLY suck at this game, but with Recon, I feel like I am amazing! Thank you for catering to catatonic brain dead patients like me!

[turbid berry]

Bruh yall be typing so much wtf 😭 just get gud

[alpine jungle]

As mentioned previously by many others Recon is in a bad state for every class
I wouldn't remove it nonetheless, I'd much prefer a rework to how to it well.. works

• Option 1: Make it have a radius
• Option 2: make it ping every enemy so it shows their location and it lingers similar to bloodhound in Apex
• Option 3: Make it so it detects player noise (I found this one pretty funny and is worth a thought

please do not slander the devs nor others this channel is meant fro constructive and thoughtful feedback.

[steep basin]

Leveling system is so fucked. Takes so long to level up after matches. Got over 25 kills and only get enough XP for half a level. Battle pass leveling system is good though.

[reef canyon]

Again crash in ranked last round, then can't reconnect (TFGE0015)... at least remove penalty after round 2 (when u can only gain FP)

[slim karma]

I'm Bronze 6 and I think recon is completely balanced. In fact, a little weak actually. I really think they should add bullet penetration because what's the point of seeing people from across the map if I can't shoot them? Ugh, walking to them is such a chore.

In fact, let Turrets shoOT through walls too when Recon is active

Since Embark is getting inspiration from cheats that hackers use, can they also just give everyone permanent radar on the top of the UI too? I think learning game sense, spawns, flow of the game, is too much for me to handle.

Also anyone find FCAR's recoil being a little too much?

Embark if you're reading this, you are doing a GREAT JOB with these abilities. I am missing half of my brain but I can still beat someone that spent 300 hours learning everything about the game because I can just press Q to instantly know where he is. Major kudos for this accessibility and catering to people like me with major intellectual disabilities 🙏

I LITERALLY suck at this game, but with Recon, I feel like I am amazing! Thank you for catering to catatonic brain dead patients like me!

[neon oak]

Since when is this channel a 1:1 replica of r/thefinals

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for a bow

[quasi fiber]

you should always be with your team in my opinion, defib is strong if your alone but if your playing as a team (which is key in ranked) you guys can easily wipe the healer. also the guy getting revived is at the mercy of how much ammo he had at the time of death.

[exotic slate]

I've taken time to conduct even more extensive research on the topic at hand. More needs to be done to extend the lifetime of this game.

CLEAR LIST OF PATCHES TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF THE FINALS™

•Remove all console and controller access.
In a game about being the best and exceeding above the rest, there should be no reason that players not giving their all are allowed to participate. Using a controller is a crutch for players not dedicated to putting in the time it takes to perfect aim. Controllers enable a free babymode to players who simply couldn't manage to actually put in effort to be better. A mid-tier MnK player could replicate high tier scores if given a controller for a week. Never in a million years would you see the same results if you switched the roles. Stop allowing these lowbobs to thrive alongside people who actually care about achieving things in life.
•Remove the Heavy Class from the game.
Similarly to the controller, the heavy class was created as a crutch to lower tier players who struggle to compete in the competitive gaming world. A character who can tank full mags, insta-kill smaller classed players and singlehandedly destroy entire buildings doesn't sound that smart on paper does it? That's because it was never a good idea in the first place, obviously created with the lowbob mentality in mind... appealing to the players who suck with a character that is much harder to eliminate/deal with. Paired with low tier easy weapons like: automatic shotguns, shields and flamethrowers... heavy was a clear nerf to higher skilled players who deserve an equal playing ground.
•Remove all shotguns, shields and melee weapons.
And once again, weapons that are used as crutches for lowbobs who refuse to improve on themselves. Nothing about any of these weapon types display any degree of skill. Shotguns were made for aimless lowbobs, shields were made for aimless lowbobs, and just guess what melee weapons are for.

Calling me a troll only proves my point.

[icy aspen]

Has aim assist been fixed on controller with the new patch? It doesn’t sound like it based on the notes but maybe

[mint basin]

Why did everyone thumbs down the patch notes?

[neon bloom]

Does it make sense that you still lose rank when the matchmaking system starts you with only 1 teamate, or sometimes solo? You have absolutely zero chance of winning against good teams.

[rich fox]

call me shit at the game, but aim assist feels pretty horrible rn and i’m not sure why.

[pallid jetty]

I am once again asking for a cosmetics channel in the server

[pseudo jolt]

I hate when randoms complain about a input that was made for GAMING

[molten trail]

personally, i'm sick of hearing the audio cue already, last thing i want is for it to be even louder or it'll start giving people ptsd and nightmares. you hear it 24/7 in ranked with the realization that the enemy team knows where you are constantly, and you can't do anything about it or counter it. Can't even revive your teammate even if you run through 20 rooms because they'll jump down and just kill you

i'd honestly rather have any other meta, i preferred nukes x100 more personally. i don't agree with the idea that recon should be non-togglable. Then you would just have teams looking at the scoreboard waiting for a team to die, then they'd turn it on to see where they spawned. It's still just as op for the team and gives it too much information.

The only proper solution is to either remove recon entirely or give mediums something more nuanced and more skill based like a "recon bow" that u can shoot through windows, which sticks on an object and acts similar to sonar grenade.

[nocturne flare]

You had me at the console hate but lost me on the heavy hate

[rose surge]

I just can't play this game anymore after the update. I'm not having fun.

[fathom pond]

please just nerf invisibility

[grave dew]

https://imgur.com/HTZdyC6 why can't i equip that skin ?