👂┇game-feedback

[urban cloak]

HAHAHAHAHHAA

[cunning ravine]

For me Crossplay is Off. Stress free.

Sikeee! Nerf stun. There's a reason people hate Mei so much.

[turbid gate]

its amazing how this game is so one sided. the game was legit built around mediums and heavys and every single streamer that plays light is using rewasd. The game caters to a very specifc audience and that is the audience that wont complain. ive tried using light my kd is 3.4 and every single kill is earned with blood sweat and tears. meanwhile heavies and mediums are having the time of their life. c4 nukes defib heals insane dps on heavies and mediums. both classes out damage lights and both classes have more utility than lights which is why every ranked game you see its a pigsty of MMH or HHM in higher ranks you arent even allowed to use light or youll get one tapped across the map by a medium with a ak. what exactly justifies 100 hp on light?damage no, speed no, utility no. this game needs to d something rework it fix it or something.

[midnight sierra]

i think this is a very good point - to which the response should be to buff those specific guns to be consistent, not how the aim assist carries them. kbm players also dont use those guns bc of how inconsistent they are lol

[knotty lake]

Make the Guitar's inspection play full songs instead of the same few notes over and over
(idk about licensing and what not but it'd be neat)

[fierce torrent]

one of the most important things that needs to be added is quality customs. obviously as a competitive player its needed for scrims, and rather then wait until you’re ready for an esport to release customs, release it sooner so when the time comes you’ll have a thriving competitive community to build off of instead of starting from scratch.

but its also great to have for the casual player base, being able to play with your friends all in a discord call and just memeing around and having fun, the potential for content creation skyrockets and increases exposure, people can learn the maps and practice movement. you could add bots like there is in the practice range and people can practice their aim in the game specific to their weapon of choice.

[sudden heart]

One of the fattest skill issues ive ever read, define "high rank"

[undone saffron]

Womp Womp

[turbid gate]

im plat 1 things are different down there where your at

[shrewd vine]

Isn't rank just an accumulation of time because of the absurd gains vs minimal losses?

[inner coral]

post ur kd for 9th time.

[orchid cloud]

You can easily tell the good players from the bad players when all they talk about is their KD. In the end, the objective is what matters.
(Obviously you have to kill some players to get the objective)

[cunning ravine]

Dont care about stats when you could Rewasd your way up the k/d with walls and aim bot. Whoever is braggin about K/D was never good at any shooter.

[tough crest]

Error TFGE0002 again

[spare plinth]

I thnk a burst weapon for ether the heavy or medium class would be very cool

[undone cobalt]

There's no skill based matchmaking how are you flexing your rank 💀
@turbid gate I'm d3 and barely notice any difference from when I was silver. I also matched against top 500 players as a silver when I first came back from vacation

[turbid gate]

oh i see youre slow, @undone cobalt https://www.gamesradar.com/after-just-6-days-hot-new-fps-the-finals-is-changing-its-skill-based-matchmaking-for-better-quality-games/ once again you're slow.

[bleak coral]

Check pins in the finals chat, recent patch was down to stats from the millions of players that showed controller outperforming kbm on certain weapons

[turbid dragon]

I have an issue with my class ability thats on keyboard set to q by default every now and then it just stops working whenver i press q and it only starts working again when i go into settings and binding settings and just click on the special ability button that shows its still set to q, clicking on it fixes it but its annoying because it can happen several times in a single match

[fierce torrent]

if anything you’re the e one thats slow. yes, there is technically some form a sbmm. there is not however, any form of rank based matching, which is really what matters, BUT EVEN SO, there are no limits to the sbmm, so although it may prefer matching the best with the best and the worst with the worst if everyone queued at the same time, but more commonly they cut corners to save queue times and put the best and the worst together. so not only is rank not a measure of skill, plat not being an impressive rank, and yet you’re still flexing it and think you’re better than everyone else, i’ll have to say, given you’re profile banner, you’re not acting like you should

[inner flax]

can we get a health bar for dome shield? i have no idea its health relative to damage mid fight or revive

[spare plinth]

agreed more ability Varity in light would be cool maybe something that could heal you quickly incase your solo clutching or no one is running heal beam

[quick coyote]

theres a visual cue: the more damaged a dome shield is the more it begins to “glitch”. you may be mistaking the cue for being hit, which does not incur an animation

[fading pivot]

It has probably been mentioned before, but anyway.

reWASD aim-assist is still fully functional, under the condition, that the program itself isn’t present whilst launching the game nor at any point the game is active. As long as reWASD’s key remap service process is left intact after activating the virtual device and closing the software itself, Aim-Assist will still be present in the game just like before. It’s all down to the key remap process and not reWASD, nor reWASD-engine processes.

[dusky yoke]

Is the finals still vertical FOV, or is it horizontal now?

[turbid gate]

am i supposed to be offended that your trying to use my religion against me? Weird flex but okay????? moving on the fact that plat consist of some of the best players in the game that people like you complain abt matching with id say its a good rank to sit at. however back to my og statement sbmm is def a thing and it def exist im not arguing facts however once again people who suck at the game (you) dont feel it as much as people who are good at the game. in cas Q im matching with solved. SOLVED for crying out loud. nonetheless haters gunna hate and im unbothered my opinion is valid and you aint finna make me think otherwise.

[languid ridge]

Y are ppl beefing in the launch feedback 💀

[oak bone]

i wish there was a “good job” in the interaction menu because so many times i’m excited for my teammates and i’m spamming “hype” and “thank you” i want them to know i appreciate them

[fierce torrent]

1 not offending, just saying you’re not being very “love thy neighbor” which i assume is considered bad but that’s a you problem idgaf

2 plat has some of the best and some of the worst players, rank is not an indication of skill, terrible players can get diamond if they play enough

3 denying objective reality isnt an opinion. there is light sbmm but no rbmm, so rank is merely a matter of playtime. if you need to keep telling yourself you’re so much superior to everyone go ahead bud, but if you’re gonna try to tell other people you’re gonna get clowned

[quick coyote]

It's the internet. Us idiots roam around freely to bicker.

I feel like the medium's AKM is off. It seems like I might be getting no regs or something. Could just be the updated recoil from open beta to now, but it feels like even on target, shots are not hitting consitently.

[cold mica]

if i get rpg or nuked 1 more time im kill some little kids

[fading pivot]

Cause they got a whole 15min to think of a comeback to feel proud of while waiting for the other person’s cooldown.

@quick coyote haven’t had that issue, and I play akm exclusively, outside of the daily/weekly mission requirements

[sinful lance]

𝓒𝓪𝓷 𝔀𝓮 𝓹𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓼𝓮 𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓷𝓰𝓮 𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓼𝓹𝓮𝓬𝓲𝓪𝓵𝓲𝔃𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓼 𝓪𝓽 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓫𝓮𝓰𝓲𝓷𝓷𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓸𝓯 𝓪 𝓣𝓸𝓾𝓻𝓷𝓪𝓶𝓮𝓷𝓽 𝓶𝓪𝓽𝓬𝓱 𝓪𝓷𝓭 100% 𝓸𝓯 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓽𝓲𝓶𝓮 𝓲𝓷 𝓠𝓾𝓲𝓬𝓴𝓹𝓵𝓪𝔂 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷𝓴 𝔂𝓸𝓾 - also Tipsy is actually a bot

[last saddle]

Can we please get an "Avoid Player" button? Getting real tired of getting the same random players who dont play objectives over and over again.

[eager cipher]

we need to do something about finals final round ranked leavers/disconnecters. i'm reporting them, idgaf. i want them banned and never to matchmake with them ever again. just reported one who left us 2v3 in the finals.

[turbid gate]

you def hopped in sometime between the convo of me and another person to think I'm flat saying "im better" my initial post was abt sbmm and how hard it is to keep up with it as a light. i mentioned my rank and kd to show the crazy sbmm in the game and how it ruins cas play for folk like myself. i def called you trash though since youdont seem to be effected by sbmm to the point of thinking it doesnt exist, when it does devs confirmed it multiple times in ob and cb i mentioned my kd was 3.4 to showe where i would place in sbmm not to "flex" or say "your trash" which i understand no one cares abt irl but in game it factors into sbmm heavily and "people like you" people who do bad on average don't feel the sbmm as much. thats objective not an opinion however the conversation has gone on long enough im not here to be akeyboard warrior or whatever im just expressing my thoughts on launch feedback like its here for. @fierce torrent so youre upset that we agreed on a topic or??? because you were def coming at me like im flexing my rank saying "thats not very chrisitan" etc. whaever though have a good day all this typing is giving me a headache

[cold mica]

can we nerf explosions on players wtf is rpg and nukes nerf heavy

[zealous walrus]

This is a miserable channel.

[raven folio]

steal a cashout challenge not working

[fierce torrent]

nice backtracking, you dont need to do it for me though. you know what you were saying. and my complaints about the sbmm is because my lobbies are too easy. i want actual competition right now its just random pub stomps 9/10 and occasionally we’ll get someone good, so not to state the obvious but if you’re struggling then you’re on the lower end of the spectrum

[stoic vine]

FFS I thought we were rid of this type of cheating virgin. I don’t understand how they can lie in the patch notes tho. I will also say the game has felt better. Maybe them saying it has caused some cheaters to give up?

[cunning whale]

i found a bug with medium, not sure if any other builds, after doing the crush it emote (not sure if any other emote applies) the pov is screwed, like im looking through the chest or stomach or something

[fading pivot]

A lot of people just aren’t aware yet. But those who care to cheat will find out sooner or later. I believe it’s not unpatchable so give it time.

[stark egret]

Any console players feel like the AA nerf was too harsh?

[timber pulsar]

Been experiencing some issues with moving forward, sometimes holding items I get stuck in place, like when having package losing, it feels like when you get stuck in goo. I'm not sure if it's internet, it's been since I updated, tried a different keyboard as at the start I thought it was the W key that had the problem. You would move around all good, and sometimes gets stuck, you can move sideways so it seems, or hitting W again (not sure if all the time) solves the problem, so not sure, tbh, I'm not sure what could be the trigger of it.

[quick coyote]

someone send me innapropriate gifs

[proven tangle]

do you get the diamond ranked rewards for being d1 or d4

[cold mica]

im tired of getting one shot its make it miserable when its a barrel flying at you or rpg like where the gun skill. just played ranked in gold with 3 squads all heavys just 1 med ima eat some assholes if this keeps happening talking to you devs.

[feral canopy]

Zipline should be moved to the light class or alternatively allow light to also use the zipline, would add better utility to light

[whole delta]

quick suggestion: i think you should be able to exchange VRs once you reach the max (3k) for a small number of cosmetic coins

[old scroll]

Set bonus for all melee weapons

[lapis island]

Suggestion: Get a job

[magic herald]

adding one more charge to gripper might solve this problem

[feral canopy]

Possibly but it won't solve the main issue with light which is that it doesn't offer any form of team synergy, which is why the most likely people you see using it are people who like to solo. It's also why you don't see it being used in ranked. The only equipment that is remotely useful for your team other than for yourself, is the breaching charge possibly to get to places or the motion sensor which no one uses on light unless you're trying to do the motion sensor grappling hook technique on the exploding canister to fly you into the air. Medium offers defib, jump pads etc., heavy offers protection, but light has no team play. Giving it the ability to use the zipline would massively help the light to have some use for the rest of the team

[whole delta]

to spend money on cosmetics? anybody with a job would know there's better things to spend your money on

[lapis island]

Apparently not since you want free premium currency... 😂 The developers have to have some cashflow to sustain the game you play and enjoy for FREE.

-Its a good idea tho? Giving the players a chance to spend extra VR is a good idea, why not let them exchange it for another currency. It gives more reason to play the game

^ I think players should have an option to spend extra VRs... I just think the developers deserve their paychecks at the end of the day. You can spend $5 bucks to support the developers instead of begging for free premium currency outlets and taking money away from them.

[rose aurora]

What is an arena object?

[tepid cave]

Its a good idea tho? Giving the players a chance to spend extra VR is a good idea, why not let them exchange it for another currency. It gives more reason to play the game

[quick coyote]

Being grouped with 2 lights while solo shouldn't happen. That says that I'm going against 3 premades. Otherwise, the game completely sucks at grouping. There wasn't another light in the game, I had both, and they combined for 800 combat score and 1 kill. game has to do better at not throwing 1 group of randoms into 3 premades.

[whole delta]

i'm not trying to steal from the devs here, i just think that earning 30 coins for grinding out the game would be cool 😭 i'm not "begging for free premium currency" i just want to get more content out of the game

mb for continuing this further, hope we can reach an understanding

[quick coyote]

Dev
Can you make Defibrillator melee hit give taser gun stun?
Just for fun

[lapis island]

I'd much rather there be basic cosmetics that are purchasable with VRs. Maybe ones with a similar vibe and color scheme to the career level unlocks. Lots of yellow+blacks and white+blacks. *And basic weapon reskins

[quick coyote]

No skill, all people do is crutch c4 Barrel... this has no place in an fps

[summer venture]

day 5003 of asking for light not to be an immediate throw pick, also remove dead go boom in ranked and c4 nuke entirely

[stone mirage]

Quick suggestion on how to balance / rework Recon Sense for Medium class.

1. Movement based detection. If people move, they begin to glow. If they stop, they shortly fade away.
2. Reduce the detection range and add detection range falloff.
3. Enemies within 10m are visible as per today, even if they stand still.

[naive vine]

Fix ghosting

[cobalt dome]

All I need fixed are 2 things that are about sniping. Get rid of the brief delay after rechambering, and add a separate ADS multiplier slider for faster ADS zoom multiplier. While ADS’ing, I csnt hit any flicks cuz it’s slow asf even at max sense. I’m on controller so I don’t have extra settings to do so. It’s annoying and takes away a bit of the fun/skill of sniping

[slender glacier]

Anybody having issues with the game capping out at 30 fps?

[untold haven]

can we make it so that time sensitive announcements from the game interrupt the current line that's playing so that the timer is correct and i actually know when i wipe teams without waiting 20 seconds

[queen rover]

triple defib is fun and balanced.

[autumn widget]

Balance suggestion:
Defib: upon revive forces all the gadgets of the revived player into cool down so triple defib won't work

C4: increase the blast radius, destruction but reduce the damage heavily

Invis: After decloaking the user can't fire their weapons for 2 seconds (Spy from TF2)

Just my thoughts on this

[undone belfry]

Which certain weapons? Show me the sheet please dont just say things and leave it as it is. Some other dudes showed some data. It was only how high the accuracy was. But not on which weapon

[tropic horizon]

QoL suggestion: add current progress of weapon career progression to character edit screen so we can see how far along to other skins we are when customizing

[sharp belfry]

If triple stacking mediums and heavies is going to be an option, then 1 other class should be able to use glitch grenades

[leaden monolith]

Suggestion: Let people unlock a “diamond token” for hitting diamond rank and allow them to choose which diamond gun skin they want, I never play light and I want to hit diamond but I feel the rewards aren’t too rewarding

[solar oasis]

you ever gonna do anything about the cheaters? ranked is unplayable now, from people using softaim like this to chinese hackers literally beaming everybody cross-map even through shields is literally every other match now.

[gloomy wraith]

and Controler players where the problem w aim assist they said 💀 Cheaters everywhere they shouldv fixed that first But aye letm cook bro its only just come out they will find a way hopefully Not sayin AA wasnt op cs it was

[languid breach]

if ur a casual controller player on pc delete this game its not a fun experience at all lmao sorry im not Exstacy nor is the majority of controller players

[feral bay]

I feel bad for you PC peeps. I don’t know why Microsoft itself doesn’t do something about this if it affects every game. There should be a movement and every big game company should be behind it.

[cold tulip]

medium is ridiculous

[languid ridge]

Light needs some more gadgets or another ability to make it usable in ranked, obv those aren’t the only changes that could help light but lately it’s only rlly mediums n heavy’s in tournaments

[eternal apex]

They did say there patch next weeks is focused on security. anti cheat takes a little bit more effort than turning values down on aim assist embark has released more patches in a month than most games release in a year let’s all chill out

[obsidian sail]

Crossplay party matchmaking is super duper ultra mega borked.

[opal jewel]

I think light's hp regen delay should be shorten

[gloomy wraith]

@feral bay Ur right w that one

[severe mason]

I'm 100% on board with no skill based matchmaking, but ranked is meant for it.

[burnt shell]

Definitely no, there are some builds that are really complicated to play against so imagine them with a shorten regen delay

[ashen canyon]

I think light has really strong gadgets, just hard to use. Taser needs to be used when you’re behind the enemy/near the end of its range since hipfire on a lot of guns is really accurate and no more sens reduction, and glitch nade is IMO a top 4 gadget in the game if used optimally. Only problem with light is that they’re so squishy and easy to kill, so they’re too easy to deal with

[urban cloak]

[sharp belfry]

Defibs should not be instant, there should be more risk involved with an instant revive than there currently is.

[solar oasis]

aim assist was absolutely a problem AND cheating is a problem..

[lone violet]

Official discord allowing cheat advertising content to last for hours

[shell jacinth]

It was but the values their at now are dogwater

[next raptor]

Add solo q, thank you ❤️

[marsh crow]

whats the point of voip if 1% of people use it and it's set off by default?

[real marlin]

It just released it happens to every game

[cursive tangle]

I keep crashing with MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

[quick coyote]

Add a Tokyo map or bundle, everyone has been talking about it for the past few days

[terse notch]

is anybody else getting kicked from servers a lot recently?

[young falcon]

got an idea for more value of the VRs... let us buy more loadout slots.. like 1 slot for 3.000 VR.

[languid breach]

No it doesnt.

[burnt shell]

Also, this situation is a pain. You start a tournament and you are alone from the start, maybe the match should be canceled ? (can't upload images apparently so here is an imgbb)
https://ibb.co/HPGwxJX

[hollow rock]

add a chat

[obsidian sail]

Yeah when I do crossplay party matchmaking with my friend, it’s a crap-shoot whether or not we’ll make it into the game and/or the server being empty.

[languid ridge]

Idk tho, it’s rlly only the glitch grenade and in rlly specific scenarios the taser are light useful ability’s, other than that light rlly doesn’t have any uses in ranked

[weary hill]

I bought all the gadgets and abilities. Can I do anything else with the VRs?

[rustic crescent]

get friends

[eternal apex]

Whatever you say lil bro

[ashen canyon]

Pyro, gas, and frag Andes are strong tools to deal chip damage and stall cashouts, I think what makes light weak is that the class is a mosquito that’s too easy to kill. You can really only pick off lone enemies, but it’s hard to isolate 1v1’s. also the low health pool makes it too easy for heavies to 1 shot with rpg or for mediums to burst you down. Only problem with buffing health is that it makes light even better for pubstomping

[junior nymph]

any fix for kicked form server thing ? i cant even finish 1 game , about to uninstall if i cant fix this

[fair jewel]

need like at least 3 more contestant slots so I can have a build for each specilization

[round folio]

This game is still completely unplayable ever game is filled with cheaters and they priority something entirely different

[fierce saddle]

A dagger skin thats called "Throwing hands" where you punch people with left click, and the backstab animation is you winding up a SLAP to slap people in the back

[livid bone]

nerf triple/double heavy

[flat musk]

why is it so hard to level up in the battle pass../thats my feedback

[rocky verge]

its pretty ez for me, but that's just daily challenges

[crude brook]

Would multi gpu support be something that the devs could add? I've done some brief googling and it's apparently something supported in DX12, but it's up to the game to make sure it works.

I'm not sure how hard that would be to implement or maintain... or how much of the player base would utilize this feature; I just want more fps and dont want to spend any money lol.

[clever owl]

I would like the dummies on the practice field to be affected by the player's gadgets and specializations, for example, mines do not explode upon contact with the dummies, which does not allow testing these gadgets.
The same thing happens with the Sense of Recognition and the Sentinel Turret, these two do not work with the dummies

[neon timber]

for real this is such a problem tn

[golden junco]

Any possibility for mouse and keyboard settings to be implemented in a future update for console, the mouse and keyboard already works but no settings or keymapping or settings such as toggle aim.

[fresh shell]

XP-54 does way tooi much damage for having a holo sight. The slow reload is not enough to balance it.

[lilac cypress]

getting defibbed should put your defib on cd for like 5 sec, just went against 3 mediums that would just chain revive eachother everytime, no counterplay if you have no explosives

[brave steppe]

I'm not sure if it's just me but I think the mouse sensitivity setting isn't working or I'm just crazy idk

[elder sail]

i dont know if anyone else agrees but turret despawning upon squad wipe would be nice

[grand quarry]

Can you please do something about the fuzzy graphics when playing in 1080p

[surreal karma]

Part of me wonders if the cheating issue in ranked is part of it. Softaim kinda makes it so lights mobility/visablity doesnt matter. And its supposed to be the flank/outplay class lol

[round folio]

Why are the dev's not doing anything at all to get rid of cheaters every game is filled with them. It just feels like they want the game to die

[sharp belfry]

You actually don't know anything

[neon timber]

it is rampant but thats a lil far

[quick coyote]

fuck off with the stupid nukes

[quick coyote]

100% invis light player

[sudden tangle]

When will an actual balance patch come out Embark? Aim assist patch was great but we need more. First balance then content. Both are needed, but balance is more urgent.

[sudden spire]

The announcer and the audience are frequently wrong about how much time is left in QuickCash

[sick raptor]

Why do I get hit with the tge0002 error code and get DC'd from my game at least once EVERY time I play the game?? I verified all files on steam and that didnt seem to solve the problem

[eternal apex]

I love this game and I know y’all are doing your best but please tell me this security update is hardware banning the losers that have to cheat to get a 1.1kd they deserve a firing squad tbh

[buoyant fulcrum]

its constatly coming and i dont use any external software besdies ghub

[livid rapids]

that's a easy anti cheat error
1.verify steam files and check the game again.
2. reinstall
3. check firewall settings for the game

[quick coyote]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3126170544

[zealous walrus]

Literally next week is the next patch, said so in the patch notes

[quick coyote]

I tried getting my friends into this game, and THEY ALL SAY "WHAT DID I DIE TO" and me explaining "nukes" to them. They all say: "HOW is this a thing?" honestly why?

just saw multiple people walk straight over my mine without it activating. great game.

[earnest granite]

1.The gaurdian turrent power of the medium class is too overpowered ,it has too much health and does not even get destroyed with a rug or a c4 which are very strong explosives ,in my opinion this can be fixed by reducing the health od the turn or making it shoot slower or making it's dps a bit less

2.I love to play as the heavy class and it is the most fun class to play with ,The weapons that heavy class has have too much recoil and I would love to see a gun that has less recoil like an AR or maybe a smg.THe range of flamethrower should be increased,grenade launcher reload should be decreased by not much but by 0.5 sec maybe ,m60 has too much recoil and can never hit shots ,and maybe increase the dmg or decrease the spread of sa shotgun

3.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .

4.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)

5.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class

6.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

7 The most imp ,it takes abt 15-20 min to join a game of ranked in asian server.

[quick coyote]

I've been noticing this too. Been happening before the update for awhile. Assumed it was just a bug but there's actually a cheat to ignore them. Might also be a bug ontop of it though.

[undone belfry]

The thing is aim assist nerf is never going to make xim and rewasd Users quit. Actually to much aim assist hurts those players as they cannot move out of the aim assit bubble often enough easily so they run higher sensivites to get rid of that.

I have used a xim in the past, I know what im talking about. You cannot do anything against those players as long as aim assist exist. They get the full benefits, doesn't matter if it is made worse or not. The Patch literally did nothing to xim and rewasd players. It only hurt legit controller people and the whole console community... but try to explain this to Single minded delusional pc people... the only way to get rid of the Problem is to disable aim assist on pc entirely. But then controller players dont have any reason to play on pc. You cannot please both Parties.

[hollow shoal]

Need some adjustment on weapon xp for weapons that dont get a lot of "free" poke damage. From what i've noticed the amount of xp you get for weapons is related to damage dealt, so shotguns are very low on your total damage throughout a match and therefore level extremely slow compared to something like an AK. Also noticed this a lot on the RPG which I have since maxed out, but dealing 150 damage every couple minutes, unless you hit a couple people with one shot, nets you essentially nothing over the course of a match.

[summer venture]

#makeLightNotDogShit

[terse sun]

facts

[brittle temple]

dm me if you wanna play the finals with me in relitively kn==new but know what im doing just trying to chill and have fun

[oak pike]

1. The turret is not overpowered. Shoot it before it finishes setting up and use cover. Goo is great for keeping turrets off you. You can out dps a turret.
2. The m60 is the only heavy gun that is a little rough right now in terms of recoil. The lewis gun is extremely easy to control. This is a skill issue.
3. This is pretty valid. It probably takes 100+ hours to unlock all the equipment.
4. This will never happen.
5. Heavies are definitely a bit too lethal for their HP. Light's most offensive tool right now is the taser. Once that's nerfed I think it will be in a pretty decent spot balance wise. Light players are currently being invalidated at higher skill levels because of recon sense though which is pretty funny to me.
6. I haven't noticed this much.
   @brittle temple Go to https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1182321339659460708 or whichever lfg channel is appropriate for you.

[quick coyote]

Cheaters?? wallhackers.. aimbotters? what is this guy

[terse sun]

the devs need to do something about xims bro its terrible the amount of people using them, we need some type of rainbow six shit in the game to nerf it, like i just faced someone who hit nothing but headshots and had no recoil

[tawdry light]

They mentioned next week is a big content update so maybe new skins will be added.

[crude brook]

would really like to see this just because my fps drops when too many buildings are falling.

[uneven prism]

Guys turrets are sooo annoying omgg i wanna cryyy plsss either nerf the damage or the rof or the tracing

[quick coyote]

This happens to a lot of people, it's just an optimization issue. Giving your PC more GPU power to work with won't help (it happens with lower settings on high end setups). It's also probably related to the CPU anyways.

[radiant sinew]

the turret only when its alone isnt op but rn every team at least has 2+ turrets so it needs to be nerfed on the health side
plus if it isnt overpowered then why basically every medium i find has the turret? it clearly means something
@uneven prism the dps on the turrets is fine its the health thats the problem

[gloomy wraith]

skill issue jk

[long moth]

[oak pike]

People use it because it's low effort. Essentially fire and forget. It's strong for sure but not overpowered.

[paper birch]

Events: Nether Portal, Majora's Mask moon impact, sideways gravity

Q ability: Skateboard

Gadgets: Ice grenade (slows and makes the floor slick)

[lethal vale]

Fcar and Recon sights nerf?

[shell jacinth]

Skill issue

[broken lake]

please let us hold the dagger backstab, for the love of god, I am begging you embark. Please revert the nerf.

[cold pilot]

remove recon

[rancid skiff]

Really glad we hit aim on non auto weapons hard. I am just so happy to have every meta weapon just be a fire hose. Very fun.
Do they not realize players have no reason to buy skins for guns if there is the risk they will just nerf them into the ground?

[lethal vale]

i think it could stay but it needs to be nerfed its much too overused like heavy's c4 barrels.

[scarlet meadow]

Add dual pistols for medium pls Embark

[neat siren]

Add auto sprint and stay away from eomm.

[pale tulip]

lool cry me a river

[shell jacinth]

Skill issue

[deep garden]

Any ideas if we're ever going to get a matchmaking that works? I'm trying to grind ranked, slowly climbing gold and getting placed vs Sen Zombs and his squad or top 50 squads on the leaderboards... No idea how this is fair.

[tawdry light]

Same i asked some dude his rank and he was D1 he went 15/2 in the lobby and we were in gold3

[uneven prism]

yeah man wtv idk smthn needs to be done plus i think heavy's are weak on their guns part like except the shotgun which is going to be nerfed compared to medium and light the lmg and lewis gun needs some work or buff smthn AND YEAH nerf the katana ohh godddd sooo much damage they just come sweep sweep u r dead

[lethal vale]

I'm just saying, when a medium can go 30/5 with fcar and recon sight combo and no one else has half that.

[dapper iron]

Can we please have steamdeck/Linux support please? Enabling EAC for steakdeck is (from what I have heard) a 5 minutes process at most and it would potentially open up a player consisting of millions of people who are probably more likely to spend real life money on the game than most Windows users. I think the steamdeck/Linux community would really appreciate this. The game is great, let us play too

[obsidian crest]

"the dead go boom" can we get visuals to the explosion radius or just take it out the game completely?

[half vector]

Can we get mouse and keyboard for consoles pleasaeeeeeeee

[twilit saffron]

Why?

[quick coyote]

can we get a hotkey to remove the hud and maybe some match replay video thingy?

[neat siren]

If Embark decided to remove recon ability it would be fair to remove Invis/cloak too.

[crimson egret]

AA is still stronger than in any other game (due to snap, no delay).

The only problem is it was so OP to begin with so shitty players now feel entitled to beam.

But I say, let AA on consoles at 100% all I care. Just remove it from PC.

[sonic flare]

Nah we need Deagle or Barretta

[lethal vale]

if i was playing on controller even before the AA nerf i would've just gave up. PC will always have superior aim in FPS games. and that full snap turning makes the back stab just not work most the time.

[sudden warren]

That's the only reason why I like the devs of this game they are not afraid of doing anything which will eventually improve the gaming experience.

[oak pike]

stop giving feedback in the feedback channel >:((((
What a genuine brainlet.

[heavy brook]

Crosshair settings get reset in practice

[sudden warren]

I get kicked out of the game frequently (internet issues probably, not sure) but but but can't reconnect to the game again. Reconnecting option should also be there if i get kicked out because of net issues or anyother.

[thick turtle]

Well, at this point i think we can all agree that Lews, FCAR and AK are so overpowered everyone is just running the same weapons over and over again

[native portal]

day 15 of asking for rank based matchmaking for season 2

[analog basalt]

Absolute W from you. I'm not a sweaty pc gamer, rather a post 9-5 work console enjoyer. When the game first released I started to play on my console at evenings for 1-2 hours and it was fun; I was racing through the dailies and weeklies, playing with friends (forcing them to play with me), overall enjoying the new type of game. All of my friends were joining me from their PCs and I need to say with that aim assist level I was barely competing with them in terms of combat score. However, after the aim assist change, I can say I'm less active in the game. Also, since I don't play the game anymore as often two of my friends uninstalled the game and others don't even join me on my daily 1 quick cash game. During our games I didn't see much of a cheater at least I didn't understand they were cheating or maybe our elo was too low for cheaters to appear who knows. I saw a WoT just like mine about how this aim assist nerf will never make xim and rewasd users to quit, then what's the point of nerfing my enjoyment.

As always, NeRfLiGhT BuFfReCoiLoNhEaVyGuNs NeRfTurReT NeRfHeaLiNgBeAm NeRfReCoN DeLeTeMeDiUm ReMoVeHeAvYsHiElD

[scarlet meadow]

Need a remote explosive for medium!!!!

[lethal vale]

Heavy gets out shot against both those guns, which is wack. but you only really see Fcars at this point for medium.

[neat siren]

I'm more inclined to think that they're rather the most versatile that made people use them in the first place.

[prisma ledge]

Hahahaha 🤣 . Funny....

[lost ruin]

The magnetism it’s so low on console, maybe you can change it to 40% only to console players.

[crimson egret]

As medium main, I think Recon removal is enough. Maybe make Light unable to have weapon selected when in invis.

[harsh trail]

headshots with a sniper rifle should KILL mediums. so sick of dying cause i get a headshot and they tap me with 10 health left

clown react if you want, a high skill weapon like a sniper makes sense to one shot lights/mediums meanwhile we have heavies running around with a one shot rpg on cooldown. be serious

[amber compass]

Do u have no hands or something get off discord u might be able to aim this is Ur 400th msg crying about losing Ur aimbot u can turn off crossplay it's roller Vs roller u don't need aimbot

[neat siren]

Or make them more transparent when in close proximity.

[undone belfry]

Yeah well you are not the only one, unfortunetly this is what most console players experience now...

[lost ruin]

Man, we have friends on pc

[lethal vale]

i hope they tweak melee. hit reg is a bit wonky some times. most of all trying to get backstabs. and the lunges too

[woven lodge]

Can we fix this Aim Assist “issue” nerfing controller players to the ground is uncalled for. Kbm players need to understand we’re using a THUMB and a little stick that will 85% of the time get stick drift in less than a month with a 2-8sec input delay. Kbm you have arm, wrist, and finger control plus peripherals that have .1ms delay if y’all so choose to. Hacks will always be in a free to play game and instead of just kbm players using aim assist this will start to bring out the full out aim botters and wallers, given recon is walls but you know what I mean. I do agree with nerfing rewasd to no aim assist etc… but come on for us controller players who grind to master a joystick and thumb control. If it’s so easy why don’t yall put down the kbm and pick up a controller? We are already at a disadvantage with having to either learn claw or buy a controller with back paddles so we can keep our finger on the joystick. Lastly, the whole no aim assist on invisible players is a ridiculous idea. Kbm can be centered and track an invisible player naturally because they already play without aim assist. Us controller players are now at a huge disadvantage to an invisible player running at our face with a shotgun. I would recommend lowering it for invisible players but not completely removing it. Same for the shotguns, lowering it, but not removing. As far as for snipers…yes no game should have aim assist for snipers. Tough luck but that’s the reality. A sniper should have to be played with patience and accuracy that’s why when you beam someone they always use a reference of sniping a dude or being a sniper. Controller players legit got nerfed because a YouTuber cried about not being able to make it to the top 100 of the leaderboards, then cried about cheaters being the reason his YouTube channel isn’t growing, when his whole video was the reason more people started buying rewasd to begin with. These are just 4:00am late night thoughts 😂

[slender rover]

Does anyone else think the flame thrower could use an adjustment? It feels pretty bad rn, not enough stuff to set on fire/that catches fire i mean. I feel like if its gonna spit fire then the fire should either stick to where you spray it, or have it do more flat damage at the expense of not being able to set fire to the environment? Idk just some late night gaming thoughts, opinions welcomed

[tame tulip]

Controller is still good, but now u just actually have to get good at the game in order to do well.

[naive apex]

i think we should be able to spectate other games will waiting for the next bracket of the tournament to start in reg tournie and ranked tournie

[leaden stag]

medium shotgun feels completely different after the update

[paper pewter]

Developer mom whores

[lethal vale]

flamethrower against lights? we in business. flamethrower against medium. can barely out shoot them in the right circumstances. flamethrower against heavy you just trade and without a medic you are basically dead after. so maybe more damage by a little. to offset the range and how alot of the maps favor range.

[brittle harness]

The Finals. A game if you don't cheat you're screwed. For only 0.0$

[forest crown]

I was banned and the authorities ignored me.

[tame tulip]

No, I don’t agree with your take. The devs also have said they based the change off their own testing and data, not the community. Ive also played apex competitively, and AA in this game was a lot stronger than even apex before the update. Now it’s more balanced. U still get beamed by controller players, it’s just not as consistent for them. Controller players don’t get to just pick up a controller and have aimbot, what about the casual kbm players?
I’m in dia4 and I still see a lot of controller people. It’s still good, and strong. Just not broken.

[lethal vale]

i wonder how the shotguns work since they tend to do varied damage. sometimes i take half a mediums health across the room and other times it barely tickles them at close range.

[slender rover]

After a bit of testing on the monaco map i find that the flamethrower isnt that good at setting fire to lush areas as much as id hoped, this is why in the past i was in favor of the idea of a more forrested map, or one thats perhaps more in a rural area as well? Say like the rocky moutains or some such. I feel like if it had sticky flames rather than set environmental peices that catch ablaze itd be a more fun to use weapon but- idk. Maybe im just talking out my cheeks lol

Edit: for testing i used pryo nade, mine, and c4s. And basically it took about 5 minutes give or take to set it fully ablaze, this was using the flamethrower only at first but it was so slow that i started using my gadgets and throwing orange barrels to compensate

[valid bridge]

Light shotgun being able to kill every class in 0.01 seconds is insane. I understand every gun needs to be able to kill at least heavy class in one clip but it just doesnt work for a gun with 2 shots. PLEASE rework this gun in some form.

[woven lodge]

Well you’re not wrong. I do agree aim assist was OP I will not deny that. So I will give you that and Delete my message that was a lil bit too much of the liquor talking 😂😂 but I still think certain aspects of my original statement still stand. The one that @neon coral copy and pasted 😒 😂 but I still think aim assist needs a small buff. However, the main AA mode that was giving that huge AA boost is the one that starts with an “S” not at home so can’t check the name. Linear and exponential were still a bit broken, but not that broken. (Side note: When do I get out of this long timer reply 😭😭😭)

[analog basalt]

Nerfing aim assist mostly increases the skill floor and barely increases the skill ceiling. Making a game harder to enter for a fast paced no story no brainer game, is basically signing your own death. As you said to do well you have to get well, sure, but I don't want to invest that much to have an hour or two hours of enjoyment.

In my opinion the most of the aim assist changes should be rolled back, except following invisible characters. I think that can be little bit increased without fully giving it back, I used to detect invisible players without knowing them they were there. But now, even if I know where they are it's so hard to play around them since I don't get the helper hand to land the first shot. This makes me a sitting duck for their shotguns, I don't like it.

[amber compass]

so u dont wanna put the work in and u just want free aimbot u roller bots cant be real humans

[woeful ridge]

This probably has already been said but I think showing the loadout of the person that killed you on the brief moments the camera sticks to them would be amazing. That way you get a better understanding of what they are using and get feedback on what to do againts them.

[manic quartz]

The floor was significantly lower for controller players than kbm was the issue. The worst offender was the snapping with high powered weapons, it translates less into evening the score and more into just being unfair.

[slender rover]

Aye, not all of us man. I get what hes saying tho. Ive had some thoughts about this myself being a controller player. All i can say is we just gotta wait and see how meta plays out ig. I dont got any complaints since the nerf other than some slight things here n there.

Also @manic quartz can confirm, some of those aimsnaps would crank straihht 90s or 180s i think for some people which is nuts

[lethal vale]

i agree with this much like they should always display specializations since you see em in the beginning.

[brittle hemlock]

Hi i have issue like this, can u help me? (System integrity violation)

[undone saffron]

It’s a game at the end of the day mate. 99% of people don’t have the time “put the work in” when games are just a fun hour in the evening. Sure, nerf us “rollers” in competitive game modes but let us go have some fun in casual modes, not everyone can waste their life on a video game.

[amber compass]

then u should not be good if u cant play people dont want to face aimbot what about the m n k players who can play 1h a day they got no chance and most people do have time to play i go work everyday and still good hardly play if u play 1h a week u deserve to be ass u can also turn off crossplay

[autumn dagger]

If controller aim assist was outperforming m/kb (which it was), then balance has to come and so it did with the nerf to aim assist!

[slender rover]

@jagged ocean from earlier in finals chat. This is the idea i brainstormed, thoughts?

Make the db a one shot skill shot that fires BOTH barrels . That way you have to get extremely close to youre target to achieve this otherwise your busted. Maybe on top combined with either 1 sec. Shorter invis or a slower weapon reload?

Ad: also thought maybe make invis even LOUDER than it already is while moving but again, idk.

[obsidian solar]

Improve melee tracking, it's so annoying when the lock doesn't even work when they're literally in my face

[quick coyote]

Disable c4 being able to attach onto any carriable. Simple. Reduce Turret Health

[summer venture]

Just want you developers to think about if the reason why a team wins over another is meta slaving. IE just play MMH because Light is shit right now, every single game turns out to be the same experience of a double healed fat heavy with his mesh shield guarded by an APS turret, honestly if this is how its gonna be in the long run its easier to say just save your time and move on unto a better game. really frustrating (not to mention nukes, rezbots, dead go boom in ranked [seriously wtf], etc)

[exotic marten]

matchmaking feels really all over the place in this game. I'm a self confessed Bronze/Silver level scrub and sometimes I get put into lobbies with players that just seem leagues above me in terms of skill. Like, fair play to those guys for being really good at the game but why the hell are they in the low rank lobbies?

[silver moon]

pls linux support 🙏🏼 (enable linux support on EAC)

[brittle harness]

Is the same if you move upwards

[rotund cloak]

Please fix the crash problems, I can't even start that everything freezes

[verbal drum]

Can someone give me robux

[broken shore]

Games has become unplayable after the last patch, crashed twice already and never before. Had to log out of my pc because nothing worked, couldnt even close the game. But thanks for the suspension, couldnt even reconnect.

[mighty dew]

i think aim assist nerf was too hard. yes i agree it was too much before but not due to the use it was the tracking while everyone was invis. i think maybe you uys should up it more but decrease when it comes to abilities like smoke, invis and gas

[junior ridge]

Fix pings, half of the time when you try to ping something you end up hitting a teammates ping that's nowhere near where you want to ping.

[keen steppe]

I really can’t comprehend why SOME controller players want to have such a strong aa. Here’s my two cents about the issue for anyone interested in it:

1. Console players can turn off crossplay so you’d only be facing other controller players on console. Mnk players can’t turn off anything. They always have to face both inputs. Input separation would fix that tho. In ranked they should be separated always. Because you just can’t balance both inputs in a way which would be and seem fair to both parties.

2. Some controller players complain about the game not being fun anymore since aa got nerfed and that they need it in order to do good. But in the same sentence they also mention how they don’t want to aimtrain to do good without it. Which imo is silly.
   You can have fun in games without being good at them. Play with friends, try silly strategies etc. You don’t need to do good in order to have fun unless you think being competitive is fun. But then you should also be willing to invest the time and effort to actually get good and not rely too heavily on aa doing the work for you.

3. Easier recoil patterns for controller players would be okay in my opinion to balance out the aa nerf. Because it objectively is a worse input for fps and should get some help in certain areas. On the other side it’s also important to note that it should never get enough help so as to but the average controller player above the average mnk player. Mainly because if mnk players wanted to face of against software instead of other people they would play a pve game and not a pvp game.

Thanks for reading my ted talk.

[upper moon]

This AA nerf is completely cringe. It needs to be made stronger. It's trash in beta and unbalanced in release. And now he is the same as in beta. What's the point of playing on a controller with bad movement and losing shootouts against MnK? It can't be that you only nerfed aim snapping by 15%. Traget Tracking does not work at close range.

[cloud mason]

switch to console ig

[hard canyon]

Hey, i really enjoy the game, although there are some things i think can elevate the experience. Maybe you can add a “hardcore” type settings in game, less HP on all 3 classes. Maybe a kind of “cash transport” gamemode a bit defuse like? . A melee only gamemode would be fun as well i think. But those are just ideas ofc! I think maybe the balance between console and pc is not yet on point but i think you can solve this as you are doing right now! (I like the game very much i just think some more variation could do the game good!)

[green flare]

I love the game and i honestly just cant wait to see what new weapons, maps, abilities, classes and gamemodes are added over time! In terms of modern games its clear that this one is made with love and I hope that continues with proper, solid updates in the future.
One thing i’d love to see specifically would be a tdm or ffa gamemode, where fragging out is top priority for a team. it would be interesting to see what team compositions and strategies would work if the goal was less defence based.

[undone belfry]

Yeah just do like me. I ordered a xim, they become very cheap after the matrix. Now I pubstomp everyone and make their experience worse because mine got worse cause of pc players. No dev responded etc. So I take Action and join the dark side, thanks pc players. You got another xim User on deck 🙋‍♂️

Many will join, I hope everyone who is doing nothing but Ranting over us console players have atleast 1 xim User in his lobby

[blazing arch]

please bumping this qol feature

[sonic flare]

Okay if M&K players and console players can’t play together than just divide the platforms: PC players play on PC, PS5 & Xbox solely play together restore AA easy. PC don’t have to worry about being aimboted and console players don’t have to worry about a disadvantage.

[viscid glen]

is there anything disclosed regarding keyboard and mouse compabillity on the PlayStation 5?

[cunning cedar]

4. Many Console/Controller players complain about cheaters but see no issues with aimbot-like AA.
   Overtuned AA removes any skill gap between controller players. it's really sad so many players think they should have a software to make them as good (without putting in effort) as players who invest 100s of hours into practicing their skills.

[pine bane]

Lol their excuse is always "linux is harder to make anticheat for, but in reality nobody is gonna be fucked to use linux, cheaters arent very smart and are lazy by definition" either way they wont bother, spin up that windows vm kid

[jagged ocean]

Add more customizable options for crosshair in settings pls, like different forms and etc (could also avoid overlay crosshair)

[raw remnant]

Any Plat from Asia server? Man I am plat 4 but always getting teamed up with SIlvers, like always

[upper moon]

I play on PC and at the moment I'm very good at playing on a controller, maybe I'm the best in my region idk. But with the current AA it is much harder to kill just people in public. I can’t imagine how casual players are suffering right now. Today I played MnK for the first time in 3 years, and I was no worse than on a controller, I didn’t even practice playing MnK. At the moment, MnK>controller is in shooting (due to AA which simply does not work half the time), but the controller is also without a good movement. So now there is no point in playing with a controller on PC.

[noble mist]

Why is the white healing beam missing? Out of all the equipment I would want to dye hospital white, it seems to be the only piece that doesn't come in that color.

Also please give us the option to disable the melee aim assist. I hate getting my view jerked around.

[rotund cloak]

Again and again and again

[amber compass]

good if u play roller on pc ur just a bot

[undone belfry]

Yeah... but I put money in the game.... I never thought that they would nerf console over a pc issue... no one on console was complaining in terms of aim assist. It was strong yeah, but for everyone! Bad people had a chance because aim assist and good people are still good with and without it... I want to atleast play till season 1 Ends, because till then new games will come out that I am interested in. And well because I put money in I want to atleast have some rest fun till players eventually drop.

I already feel the queue times taking alot longer after the patch, in Casual modes! Thats where most people play... and its taking around 1-2 mins to find a game, with crossplay on! That wasnt before the patch! It found a game around every 30 seconds

I left a game where only 1 was in my team and 1 Minute after I searched again i was put in the same game... player base sinks. And its the devs fault for turning stuff off in console field without asking console players or taking console Feedbacks. That makes casuals not enjoy the game anymore. Pc may have been sorted out. But console is doomed. My friend counter since the patch released is on 0, it was 3-5 all the time.. people quit

@amber compass BRO IM TALKING ABOUT CONSOLE NOT PC MAAAN
How small brained are you my god I wanna punch myself because of your stupidity and ignorance

@quick coyote
The first thing I did? I tried my best to make the point clear that console is doomed. Alot agreed but devs didnt respond or said anything the last days. So yeah im taking my resort. If the whole playerbase now is either dead or xim User why not join them.. you dont know how console playground feels like. Just dont talk when you are on pc.

[urban cloak]

[amber compass]

u do know the devs can see the stats of m n k vs roller and roller was beating m n k by a lot so they nerfed it as it was not fair we can also disable crossplay ur just ruining ur console bot lobby's WE DONT CARE console vs console is roller only thats fair if u all got worse aim we dont wanna vs roller rats on pc with no skill aimbot @undone belfry ur just a bot mate cry a river

[digital snow]

He's actually right about target tracking not working in close range. I did some testing and there's no AA Slowdown and magnetism when standing closer than 20 meters from an enemy. As soon as it's more than 20 meters, Slowdown starts working. It has to be a bug, because notes mentioned that it got 15% nerf in strength, not completely disabled it in CQB.

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[quick coyote]

I don't wanna hear you complain when the first thing you did was resort to cheating 💀
You were just always going to be a cheater bro

[rancid turret]

There is a VERY broken money bug (with proof)

This has already happend to us twice now, and is very annoying since you cant do much about it.

https://streamable.com/1w4ke0

If you watch the clip you can clearly see that the orange team doesnt have enough to make it through to the next stage. What they did however, is wait (on purpose or not) until the very last millisecond to then get the cash in, which will instantly end the match but also give them the money as if they defended it for the next minute.

Hopefully it gets fixed somewhat soon as its very hard to counter if the team with the cash play it smart

[rough owl]

Either buff APS arm time and range to counter nukes or nerf nukes

[ocean cave]

anticheat not working???

[undone belfry]

I was joking im not buying that for only one game lol. It was just ranting. Because I thought maybe if I say im gonna cheat the devs respond and then I would know that the devs really dont care what has been said the past few days about aim asssits

Im just gonna play this game till end of the season casually and then go. Its just so sad that devs are only pc sided. I only put in 10€, but those 10€ hurt because I don't want to play the game anymore. But somehow I feel I must till I have all of the battle pass stuff.

Either way. Dont spend any money on console. This game is gonna go down in numbers for console if devs patch and do stuff on pc Basis. I thought they worked for dice. Battlefield is popular because of how Casual the game can be. You dont need to be cracked to get kills and wins. Aim assist in battlefield (the newest one) is also very very strong, but noone complains there because it's a casual game.

The finals in its roots is a casual game too, but tries to be competitive.

Competition doesnt work with random stuff like dead go boom, no gravity and some other stuff.

@noble mist lol wtf are you talking about.

[noble mist]

Most console players don't even care about patch notes or balancing, lol.

[valid night]

LH1 roll back to 42 damage 400 RPM plz

[abstract wadi]

po

[leaden stag]

might be true. but they also cant be bothered to spend x amount of hours to get good at this game

if there is no place for casuals in a game, can game be successful?

[vast prism]

Devs, please. For the love of God, please fix the piece of shit that is c4 nuking. It's ruining the game. I don't care how you do it but that's your job. I ain't spent so much money on this game just to get insta-killed by zero skilled meta plays.

[keen steppe]

which is fine but then they can't expect or even demand to do good.
Dont put in the hours of practice = dont do good in game
Put in the hours of practice = do good in game

[cunning cedar]

Funny how you refrence BF2042 as having "strong AA", I have close to 1000 hours in that game, mostly played on controller.
AA in BF2042 is not even close as strong as it was in The Finals pre-patch. It is at max. as strong as it is now post-patch, I'd say even weaker in BF2042.

[grim steeple]

I think c4 is balanced and y'all should just run aps, glitch grenade, taser, or a gun to counter it.

Console players in here claiming to be a hive mind is funny. We, the collective consciousness of Xbox will quit the game unless it aims for us.

[turbid moss]

Fix your respawns!! It’s too often that I respawn(coined) on the enemy team or near them

[opal jewel]

the charge would also help close the distance

[dawn grove]

my favorite is facing a wall, the opposite direction of the cash out

[undone belfry]

Funny because me and my friend always had more then 50 kills a round with beeing in the top 5 most of the time (we play as a team yeah but each of us has a kd above 5, which is above average and hugely given due to aim asssit because i play on Max sensivity). Its different experiences I guess. 1000 hours dont mean that you automatically are good in a game when you can spend 800 hours just flying the Chopper. Im infantry only.

That aside, pre patch was definitely to strong. But now it's too weak in terms of the most unused weapons, medium shotgun etc. Because it doesnt snap anymore where everything else what is busted (fcar etc.) Still does

Trust me play that gun with a controller, you will die alot, not because your aim may be trash but if you miss 1 Single hit its over. Other guns still snap. So wheres the Balance when the medium shotgun even has lower dmg per second then the fcar?
Devs didnt thought this out properly. They just nerfed all the fun stuff which most people didnt use anyway... bad piloting.

@molten rain yeah. Well I don't think they will revert it. And I think reverting it isnt the right thing to do. Just bump it up a little, but not to the stats where it was.
And also Enable snap on all guns again (maybe except sniper, dont known how good it was before and how it is now). Revolver and medium shotgun are literally dead now. There's no reason to run them. You are always in a disadvantage, close range and long range

[prisma ledge]

Was wondering where all the cheaters went. Didn't find one for atleast 5 tourments, but now they are back. Love wallhack on heavy ❤️

[bleak coral]

check PINS on #⚡┇the-finals-chat message from embark dev

[lost ruin]

Please fix the aa for consoles

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for you to add a bow to the game

[sonic flare]

Turn off crossplay

[queen cloud]

Imagine wanting controller to be better at shooting than Mnk due to autoaim.

Losing gunfights as a MnK that actually pratices his aim to aimassist would feel soo bad

[prisma ledge]

Just gotta say once more. LOVE!!! SPAWNING INTO SOMEONE WHO IS CAMPING SPAWN!!! <3<3<3

[upper moon]

Imagine playing on a controller and losing in shooting and movement. Each input device should have its own advantages. The controller does not have them at the moment. Just try playing on a controller now))

70% of online games are players with controllers, if the controller is bad the game will have 40k online

[quick coyote]

reWASD AimAssist is back😭
Update when?

[grim steeple]

Honestly they should just blacklist that app in eac.

[lost ruin]

All of my friends are playing on pc, I can’t, the real problem is that you guys on pc using the controller and abusing it, you have mouse and keyboard we have joistick, maybe they can change also the auto-aim only on pc because a lot of us are playing with friends on pc

[smoky storm]

Man what a ridiculously long statement just to accidentally admit you have a massive skill issue and can't hang without aimbot

[queen cloud]

if said advantage comes from a software assist or the game doing something for u i'll make it unfair to the people that don't have any software assist and rely on their raw skill.

If controllers want to aimbot each other they'll have to make separate lobbies. Forcing MnK players to play against aimassist only because your input sucks is extremely unfair.

[strong escarp]

Meanwhile my own casual friends on MnK are rejoicing at nerfed aim assist 😌

If you're on PC, stop playing on an inherently terrible input method for shooters. If you're on console, this level of AA is still perfectly workable (as shown in Apex's PC community where controller still beats MnK at equal skill level).

[hushed cloud]

cant we region lock china?

[tawdry light]

Is cronus zen allowed on Consoles, since its basically a cheating device

[obsidian solar]

People that react with the clown and no emoji are just losers that have no arguments against my suggestions, infact they don't even reply, cowards lol

[silver moon]

I use windows on a daily basis, i just have been getting sick of it and the finals has been the one game in my library that doesnt work on linux

[heavy cargo]

@silver moon who uses Linux?

[quick coyote]

Fix match making, I’m plat why am I playing with bronze teammates

[valid night]

roll back LH1 to 42 damage 400 RPM

[burnt lark]

i havnt even touched ranked wo SBMM lol seems frustrating

[inland shadow]

Please fix crashes or allow people to rejoin games after a crash

[shrewd vine]

Remove or severely reduce the 'elo' penalty for a team whos had a leaver. Just had someone leave on the loading screen and me and my teammate still managed to almost win. Sucks that we were penalized for giving our all.

[queen cloud]

I didn't want to waste my time replying to the same dumb suggestion u keep posting here over and over, but here it goes...
Imagine seeing a Riot shield coming at u not giving u the chance to get distance to kill him or escape.
riot shield should be a niche defensive tool, not offensive.

[magic palm]

crashing alot today

[grim steeple]

Suggestion for tournament:
Add SBMM to ranked and just fake the format. There's no reason to match 48 players at the same time.

Match 12 players over a few minutes, and in the background matchmake the average MMR of lobbies together. A match lasts like 8 minutes or more which is plenty of time to get a fair matchup. When a match ends, delay a minute, take the best match and slap them together.

[cunning cedar]

What you say doesn't add up to me, you claim to have a 5+K/D with 50 kills/game in a game with weaker AA, but here you're saying the game is unplayable now. (Show BF stats/gamertag pls)
I never claimed to be a pro player, I've a 1.85 K/D with average 24 kills/game (infantry only), which is above average and this on controller without AA. (My stats are public and you can check them)
And i've no issues playing on controller in the finals.

Snap-AA doesn't belong in multiplayer games anyway and should be romoved from all weapons, regardless on which platform.
Revolver and shotgun are both high risk-high reward weapons, therefore the removing of snap-AA was the right thing to do. With snap it's just way to easy to use.

[bleak coral]

only glaring issue with riot shield is when you are blocking with it the enemy can move to the side, and even if you perfectly track and look at them because of server latency they can still shoot the side of your body - making blocking less consistent and annoying. only two changes i wanna see with riot to make up for the fact blocking is inconsistent is:
-higher attack speed (up to the speed you can already animation cancel)
-faster attack to block speed
-better auto aim (same as all melee), was even thinking all melee could have lowered auto aim range but guaranteed hit.

[silver moon]

Actually in fact a youtuber named A1RM4X found out that the game can run on linux (through proton) however he doesn’t recommend it as its not an official release and would likely tip off easy anticheat in some way and get you banned. Which im not risking.

[fiery moat]

I'M SORRY TO SAY IT BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PLAYER WITH A CONTROLLER NOW I HAVE TO UNINSTALL THE GAME, I TRIED TO SWITCH FROM MK BUT I DIDN'T SUCCEED AT ALL SO GOODBYE THE FINALS IT WAS NICE.

[quick coyote]

Now we all looking forward next weeks.
Dev should prepare hardly.
😭

[obsidian solar]

It's literally a melee weapon, It shouldn't be niche, all weapons should be equally viable, i'm tired of people like you that want the same boring meta. Sure all of these suggestions together would be op, but not saying they should put them all even 1 or 2 would help a lot, considering the shield doesn't even cover you fully. At least the block movement speed buff would help

[wanton bramble]

all the roller bobs still malding 💀

[proven jolt]

Need to make it where explosives have little higher damage, and blast range.
Im shooting people in their chest, and only taking away a sliver of their health.
The mines need a larger trip radius, i legit watch people damn near step on them, but not fully. And they wont go off.

[quick coyote]

Hackers, wall hackers, AKM insta beamers, Lewis gun heavies. Where is the anti cheat?

[smoky storm]

Riot shield should absolutely be niche, it is literally the best example of a niche weapon / use case in the entire game.

I'm kind of thinking you don't actually know what niche means, tbh.

[worldly fable]

2 gamemodes for a game like this are VERY LITTLE, you should add new gamemodes as soon as possible, as well as maps.
In a game like this every possible gamemode can be added just for fun, not just competitive but even casual games.

SOME SUGGESTIONS:

-4v4 or 5v5 Capture The Flag, but instead of the flag both teams fight for a cash box they have to keep in their cash machine until they reach like 50K
-Survival: players having to survive calamities in maps which have sections that can just fall into oblivion if something broke their foundations and kill the players in them
-Deathrun with randomly generated courses with the already existing buildings the game has (just wishful thinking here)

The way this game is made probably allows any kind of casual fun minigame just for the lols.
I say even team deathmatch with kill confirmation(which will be coins for the team) would be possible.

[queen cloud]

After 190h:

• Fix anti cheat should be 1st priority
• Nerf nukes
• Improve audio in general. There should be audio cues for jumpads / ziplines. Enemy footsteps should be louder compared to teammates.
• Add grenade indicators or make them more visible.
• Servers /netcode could be better. Peekers advantage is INSANE in this game. Certain movements like grabbing ledges, jumps and interacts still feel out of sync and inconsistent at times.
• Heavy in general feels a little stronger compared to the other classes. Lewis gun does almost as much dmg as scar and has 47 bullets, no recoil and insane range. + 350hp + rpg + shields + c4...
• Recon could use a small nerf/rework.

[bleak coral]

"That aside, pre patch was definitely to strong. But now it's too weak in terms of the most unused weapons, medium shotgun etc. Because it doesnt snap anymore where everything else what is busted (fcar etc.) Still does"

... that's the thing, medium shotgun and all those weapons are unused in general on mnk because they're not as good (and they WILL be buffed). the fact they were viable at all because of aim snapping is crazy. medium shotgun is only good if you have good aim and aim train, otherwise seen as pretty useless.
complaining that they arent easy to use after the removal of aimbot is insane!
sounds like the balance between mnk and controller is more accurate now 😄

[obsidian solar]

I know what it means but the way you're talking you want the shield to stay as it is and never become better so people can't use it in a more competitive scenario, as of now in ranked you get absolutely destroyed going with the shield. You guys are scared of the shield being better, even though it's the devs job to make all weapon as equally as viable as possible, to offer a bigger diversity in the game

[abstract wadi]

HI

[rich fox]

really can’t believe people want the aim assist reverted back to aim bot…

i play on the sticks and it feels fine now

[smoky storm]

I see people use it in high MMR ranked all the time. The difference between those with success and those who get stomped is the difference between understanding the niche or trying to force it in all situations.

Riot shield is a niche weapon, use it on maps where you can force CQC, don't try to force being a "main" and using it in every match or every situation, that obviously won't work. If you're running it on las vegas and taking the cash to the objective that's in the open, of course you're going to think it's bad.

If you run it on skyway stadium or monaco and force objectives that are inside in rooms, guess what? You're gonna find a ton of success.

The fact you're a self described "riot shield main" means you probably try to force it in every map and every variant and thus think it's weak, because you're putting yourself in situations that do not fit the riot shields niche constantly and, correctly, getting out ranged and out played.

The game has a ton of niche weapons that are extremely strong in that niche, but will not be good otherwise. Riot shield is one of those. Don't force it outside of it's niche, use it when you see the oppurtunity to exploit it, and it's great as is. You're right i don't want it buffed, because it already fits well in it's niche and buffing it to the point where it's meta and can function outside it's niche would make it ridiculously OP and just as obnoxious and toxic to play against as C4Nuke abuse.

[tawdry estuary]

Now that the game works on Steam deck I'd like to make one request. Can you disable the below minimum specs pop up for the Steam deck?

[undone belfry]

You're just stupid wtf. When noone is using the shotgun now (and it never was used largely) is it balanced or brokenly nerfed? Bro I don't understand how some of you made it out of school with those arguments.. and you always see it from a pc points I DONT CARE ABOUT MOUSE AND KEYBOARD, IM CONSOLE!!! I won't try man its not worth my time..

[river plover]

remove bad teamates in solo q

[wanton bramble]

us pc players want it so that you queue against other people on mnk not people using controller (which they were in pc lobbies) due to how op it was. aa was also a completely good change as it makes the game more fun (game is rlly fun dying in 1 mag to each player. according to the moron roller players). next change to make will be to nerf the nukes and after that game wont be in a bad position. maybe a few changes to different guns and some qol stuff. @undone belfry ur a moron. the point he made was that the gun is useless on pc due to it being bad stat wise so it should be the same on console. @molten rain ur a moron you can disable cross platform

[raw skiff]

After my experience with this game, I must say that the game is wonderful, but there are some problems on the PlayStation. 1. The game does not support the mouse and keyboard, and this is a ridiculous thing. We cannot control this. This is a shooting game, not football. This thing will make a big difference with the ability to play with a mouse and keyboard, because I tried playing it. On the computer and it was great. You will need an update for this problem as soon as possible. A lot of people complain about this thing, even Xbox players have this feature. Understand this so you can progress more and more. Thank you

[queen cloud]

skill issue

[acoustic edge]

Good luck out there. I hope you find your caps lock one day.

[quick coyote]

Las Vegas is the WORST map ever

[merry tusk]

i hate LA in sand storm

[rocky verge]

I’m the 10% (:
(I can’t shit on console players aim assist or not)
In all seriousness tho, the issue with aim assist is that it is unbalanced in how much it helps a high rank player and how much it helps a low rank player (like me). Because a lot of times, they won’t be matched to fight an even battle those of equal skill on the opposite machine… making aim assist stupidly hard to balance ):
Me personally imma just say: idk shit abt how aim assist feels so idk if need or buff

[quick coyote]

My favorite type of cheater, "Lewis gun heavy".

[twilit lily]

Skill issue.

[bleak coral]

@undone belfry ah nice insult, shame ur opinion aint valid u been here 2 days barely played the game and get mad now u dont have aimbot on a C tier weapon. u ignored all the info ive given u and just stick to "i want this C tier weapon to be S tier again give me back my aimbot! :("
such a clown putting reacts on ur own messages 🤦 ...
i hope u don't enjoy the game anymore and go back to cod, don't insult anyone over talking about a video game - just roast their opinion not the person, toxic ass broke console player

[compact sleet]

100% nth but facts here

[wind hatch]

Most people in norms are running heavy with shields and mid healer and it’s so sweaty and limiting. I hope they do something about this so I can have casual fun with friends again. Was a great time before people started unlocking all the annoying combos

[cunning cedar]

Same, some console/controller people here are massively over exaggerating.

[smoky storm]

It's hilarious how there are quadriplegics out there who don't need aim assist, but controller players get their aimbot tuned a bit lower and lose their shit and quit the game.

https://youtu.be/ZMvikz2cA-8?t=76

This guy has better aim than 95% of controller players with his mouth. He played PUBG, against MNK, without aim assist.

snap aim and rotational aim assist don't belong in multiplayer FPS games to begin with. Either remove it and make controller players learn how to aim, or give us input separated matchmaking so the MNK, gyro, and quadrapalegic guys can have fair lobbies and compete without aim assistance. The controller guys can aimbot each other in their own lobbies.

Games such as halo, call of duty, and apex have definitely shown that it is simply not possible to balance raw input against aim assist, particularly rotational aim assist and snap aim assist, both of which react in ways humans are not physically capable of. Whichever input gets aim assist ultimately ends up dominating, and giving aim assist to MNK is simply not an option and is the worst possible outcome, MNK always wants raw input.

Humans take approx 200 ms to react to an opponent changes directions(such as while strafing). This is simply how long it takes for the brain to visually process the information - it's a biological limit that cannot be bypassed through practice and training. However, both snap and rotational aim assist react in 0 ms, making it inherently unfair and impossible for humans to compete against even mild forms of those aim assists. As a result, input seperated matchmaking (raw input and aim assist being the dividing factor) are required. This can co-exist with crossplay, especially if MNK, controller, and gyro are all fully supported on all platforms - players would be free to choose their platform/input and know they'll be put into fair lobbies based on their preferences, and crossplay will ensure healthy populations for both raw input and aim assist.

[quick coyote]

Unplayable in asia server.
Too many cheaters like kill 200m with m11.
Help us!!!!! HEEEEEEEELLLPP
or Region lock😎
You know what im saying?

PLUS))
We all looking forward your next patch.
Dev SHOULD prepare HARDLY.
We already disappointed

[proven canopy]

im getting booted to menu screen after every round. In the finals i keep reconnecting to get insta booted.

[undone belfry]

I won't respond to you anymore. I hope you will be lonely as f. Stay just as you are mooron. You are the kind of shit I dislike the most. Big appearance in online World but in real life the quiet one. Biased one minded piece of trash. You still dont know what everything is all about and compare it to pc. Im done trying to get my message over. This community has one of the most dumb ppl ive ever seen.. seesh man how is anyone enduring you in real life... damn

[desert flame]

Can we get the tier 4 skin you get (the all-white) on the healing beam please?

[glad wigeon]

It works on Steam Deck now?! That’s awesome!

[leaden stag]

hello.

im here to say thank you for updating new. now i see player preform. as they should have.

im go against shotgun medium, 1v1, he missing me all shot. i steal cashout, i plant bomb and killin him. very good updating. finally fair playing.

i am mnk player. im knowing console os not gopd player, so let it be. in times of trouble, go fortnite! we here only pro. expirienced from cod and apex regend.

thanks to embard again, game fair and fun again, because i see finally i am master of player.

thanks again and im appreciate this new update. i will buying new battre pass again. my favorites weapon is fcar and i recon yours too.

soredewa, thank you

[bleak coral]

omg nice character development, you didnt react on your own message!!
congrats
see ya wouldnt wanna be ya 💀

[merry tusk]

what is the thing with the duck on monaco? i happens nothing

[smoky storm]

Defib nerf rework suggestions:

Invincibility frames stay as is, but removed on shooting, using a spec, or pulling out a gadget. However, during that timeframe, player does not block bullets, explosions, etc - so players behind them can be shot and damaged normally, preventing using the newly rezzed person as a shield. This should apply to regular rez, as well. The invincible person simply blocking bullets is the most frustrating aspect of rezzing/defibbing someone in general.

When rezzed, a player loses their invulnerability on shooting, using a specialization, pulling out or using a gadget, and cannot be heal-beamed until the invulnerability is gone.

additional possible options:
Prevent "pre-charging it". Defib can only be charged while already at and facing the statue. This would effectively give it a short pseudo-cast time, where the player using the defib is vulnerable.

Defib charge is canceled on taking any damage from a player - needs to be charged again before use. Prevents defib while under fire, otherwise defib works as is. (I think this is the best solution, personally, combined with the above where you can shoot through freshly rezzed players)

Remove defib as a gadget, and instead, replace recon with defib as a specialization(with the above changes). Recon(map wide wallhacks) don't really belong in FPS games to begin with.

Move defib to light class(with the above changes). This gives light some team utility and gives a reason to run light in higher MMRs, and fits along their "hit and run" theme.

[short shoal]

Why is this community already so toxic?

[quick coyote]

Cause its substream fps enjoyer. 🤔

[summer venture]

please make light not an instant throw pick thanks

[neon oak]

Thats more of a you problem objectively

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for a bow to be added to the game

[tawdry estuary]

Yup! Works using Proton Experimental

[smoky storm]

All gun sight sway removed during ADS,stay centered on screen,ironsights included

Healing beam is interrupted for 1/4-1/3 second if target takes bullet dmg.help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay.environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
nerf/rework defib:#👂┇game-feedback message

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

double barrel shotty nerf

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4/RPG Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc). Currently movement is pretty good, but also a bit awkward from a control perspective due to how sprint and slide interact. It could be massively improved via updated controls.

Option for more neutral background colors, too vibrant, causes eyestrain.

option for dark flashbang

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Allow access to the keybinds config file for improved keybind options

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking: #👂┇game-feedback message

solo ranked queue w/ forced 1L1M1H team and role queue(separate ladder to current ranked)

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Reduce gas and dust particle opacity

ladders do not autoclimb,require pressing "use" key

[short shoal]

You call me an fps enjoyer but is this game not an fps? Also that was rhetorical my dude 💀

[quick coyote]

reduce heavy health to 325 D:

[merry tusk]

pleeease

[thin brook]

Dear representatives of Embark and the teams working with you. Hello. My native language is not English, so I apologize for my incorrect words. I see that you are listening to the opinion of the players. Your game has become my number one since the first day of playing in beta testing. I'm playing on the Xbox Series. My friendship is simple enough. Don't kill the aim assist in this game for Xbox and PS players. By reducing the magnetism in the aim assist, you make it incredibly difficult. After today's patch (1.4.0 or 1.4.1), it became very difficult to aim. And in class L, when invisible, the aim assist does not work at all. This is not to mention when you play against players on a computer who use all sorts of programs and the advantages of a keyboard with a mouse. Hear my words and I will be very happy about it. Please 🙏🏼

[quick coyote]

IF A MATCH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR LONGER THAN 5 MINUTES AND SOMEONE LEAVES NO OTHER PLAYER SHOULD FILL THAT GAME UP

[keen steppe]

Light:
Should get faster regenration out of combat to improve their harass-playstyle.

Someone else mentioned a stimshot item which could also work out instead of changing the regen timer. Maybe even make it so you can choose to give that stim to a teammate instead of using it only on yourself.

The sniper could use some love aswell. Not too sure about in what way tho, since that could easily make it too strong. Some experimentation with firerate might be a good first step imo.

M11 is in a weird spot too, it technically is slightly stronger than the xp-45 up close but overall still significantly worse. Maybe enhance the close-range capabilities even more so there is a clear difference between the two.

Sword should be able to hit multiple opponents with the charge attack. (The reverse of heavies hammer)

Medium:
After getting resurrected by defib you should not have invulnerability.

If you get defibbed as a medium you should have your own defib go on cooldown to prevent chain defibs.
OR
Make it so defib isnt instant but just significantly shortens the regular revive-time. Like a sped up version of the normal revive where youd have to keep facing the downed-player trophy.

In addition a reduced effect for multiple healing beams on the same target would be good aswell. One beam heals for 100%, two beams would heal for more than 100% but less than 200%.

A change for recon sense also wouldnt hurt. Maybe make it so it functions similar to thermal vision of light. Where you have to pull out a tablet to activate it and it stays activated for a set amount of time and goes on cooldown afterwards. Also make it pulse every 5 seconds instead of a continuous vision. Each pulse would outline enemies for 1.5 seconds.

Heavy:
Hammer horizontal swings should be able to hit multiple opponents. (The reverse of lights sword)

Performance:
Some performance and optimization improvements are very needed aswell.

Melee AA should be toggleable.

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for there to be more visual feedback when both of your teammates are dead, and you dying would lead to a team wipe.

[feral canopy]

Didn't you say you stopped playing the game? Why are you still complaining lmao

[urban cloak]

LH1 should be on medium and needs some buff + decent scope

[amber compass]

get on minecraft u bot

[naive flicker]

🪧 Remove AA changes! Console will die!🪧

Possible soutions to replace the aim assist patch:

1. They disable crossplay entirely and have 2 different builds of the game. This would be a nuclear option not recommended.

2. They buff MKB users by giving them bullet magnetism. Buff instead of nerf. That's always better.

3. They can filter inputs on PC. Forcing controller PC players to play with console or have they're own subdivision on PC.

In my option this "patch" was the worst option.

[raw vapor]

custom matches up to 12 player?

[gleaming frost]

I just would like to inform you that the gameplay totally changed on consoles with cross play off (because most console players turn it off). From fast paced shooter to slower shooter. Even BF2042 on Retracted map is faster gameplay.
Just to get an idea you only sprint if you are very away from objective or running away. Else it's move slowly turning corners slowly

Might as well go back to other shooters since it offers nothing different now.

[marsh musk]

is anyone else noticing more game crashes since the new patch? i hadnt crashed at all before and now ive crashed twice in one day.

[full rose]

Dear Embark, with the new Patch you did a great job. The Aimbot autoaim is reduced af. Thats good to hear, and the Game actually needs skill again. Its possible to climb with better Aim again thats goood. Now just ADD a Mode that removes the disadvantage of being alone. You force us to use LFG in Discord or we get a big disadvantage over Discord Teams, because People do not communicate over voice + you cant ping when you are dead. So Please add a Game mode, which is only joinable without a group so everyone is forced together with randoms and is forced to use the ingame voice. Im a casual player and im to lazy to search every match a new dude in Discord. I just wanna Play.

[desert flame]

make the challenge completion bonuses 4000 6000 and 8000 respectively pls

[junior ridge]

All my homies hate dead go boom

[molten trail]

Just a reminder that thousands of ppl still want a text chat. There is no reason not to have one, at least for teammates

[unique bluff]

Any fixes for TFLA0002 error?

[sonic flare]

A text chat? 💀

[ebon narwhal]

Bro just get a mic

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for a ping wheel, or a more sophisticated contextual ping system. (also a theme park map bc that sounds dope)

[brisk spruce]

I feel like there should be some more time added in scenarios where other team captures your cashout in last secs, you defend it for the whole time and a random team shows up, pops a dome shield last secs and captures it, frustrating and not really fair

[gray flare]

nah dude if nuking doesn't get removed next update im going to quit. if i get one shot across the map as heavy one more time im gonna lose it

[frail pilot]

why does wheni open finals says simultanes game instance reached and dont let me run it

[dull lagoon]

I'm back again to ask for any kind of match history where I can see stats from previous matches. A basic feature that should have been part of launch.

[merry creek]

On xbox the LFGs have dipped alot since update... hemorrhaging players

[cunning stag]

Kbm support for consoles? Don't u realize more people are gonna play your game if you add this feature?

[mighty dew]

please up aim assist even if it not as it was. it needs buffing again shot gun is next to impossible to use now at the sensiivity i am used to

[raven hatch]

PLEASE fix the solo Q low elo squads in ranked

[gleaming frost]

The game is very different on consoles since last up but it's their choice to hemorrhage more players

[wanton bramble]

bro has 400k subs on his yt channel called themadadam LOL

[timber shadow]

#👂┇game-feedback this stun gun is suck
no fair , trash support
uninstall this game

[dense fjord]

please let me lower the opacity for for pings and OBJ like ow

[exotic wave]

Have you tried going into the practice tool and adjusting your controller settings to account for the aim assist changes? Many of my games post change were rough, but after playing more than a few games, and tweaking my settings, it's gotten better.

[merry creek]

I don't think they intended for it to be this bad... fingers crossed the juicy update they have teased is going to save it.
Is ironic tho how they said prior to the update their main focus was prioritising fun over competitive, then follow that up with an update that turns it into a utter sweatfest that drains all the fun out of it all because a bunch of muggy MLG wanna bes

[cunning stag]

Who's trying to get an advantage against controller players here? Oh my fkn god, people just love crying, I always play the game with my friends from PC with crossplay on, I just don't like controller for fps games and can't afford a PC atm.

Also, MnK players play against other PC players that are on controller and against console players too, so what's the problem? Why are you so afraid of MnK players? Controller players play against MnK players on PC all the time.

I can see console players crying over this if they ever add Kbm support for consoles, holy crap. PC has support for both MnK and controller so why it can't be the same for consoles? 🤡

[stable bear]

I think the finals should have a practise mod but with your friends

[undone saffron]

Contoller in PS5 only lobbies is laughably easy mate, i'm not interested in it. I'd much rather have the option to play MnK with my PC friends on my PS5 as well? It doesn't negativly affect anyone by giving us MnK support, just gives us the option to play with it if we'd prefer. If you PC players are as good as you like to claim, letting us play in your lobbies on an even playing field shouldn't be difficult for you, you all seem to chat an awful lot, maybe you can actually back it up?

[wanton bramble]

controller players dont understand that they are meant to be worse lol. MNK requires much more skill to be at same level as roller so they need to have nerfed aim assist to compensate. 500 hours on aim labs (i dont have that) should mean you stomp a roller main like @molten rain. even if he is the best roller player in existence

[thick loom]

Gridshot main

[frank loom]

yep. Also, if they think supporting Proton would open up the game to more cheaters, they could still split matchmaking between Linux and Windows players. It wouldn't be optimal, but at least better than nothing imo

[lapis swallow]

Login failure for the past 2 hours tried nearly everything and cannot figure out how to play this game again. Network is fine, no vpn, game files verified, game updated, uninstalled/reinstalled, restarted computer, contacted support, and nothing. Still cant get into the game TFLA0002 is bs

[gleaming frost]

worst part is the elitist pricks keep flaming people who are never in their games. then they ask why queue times are so long

[vapid latch]

I could honestly live with that, but that seems less likely than actually allowing Proton.

Just have to use a shitty OS for now:/

[amber compass]

U must be worst player eu then

[junior ridge]

You need to lower the opacity of pings and death markers when they're stacked, there have been so many times where I can't even see the objective timer because my teammates death icons are covering it.

[covert dagger]

is the whole meta with projected shield heavies running rpg fun? as in playing that build

[rocky verge]

Reduce the size of the heavy HMG ironsight

[frank loom]

haha true
||(I use NixOS btw )||

[soft pawn]

Drop Heavy hp by 50. Is 300 not enough?

[exotic marten]

Please for fuck sake make Light be able to survive an RPG hit

[zealous mural]

you res system is a FUCKING JOKE. i just lost cuz i got res in the opposide side of the map WHILE THE FUCKING CONTROL POINT WAS HALF WAY DONE. WE JUST LOST CUZ WE WERE TOO FAR AWAY. GREAT JOB

[dawn grove]

[robust anvil]

All i want is the nukes to be removed from the game and yes i am crying about it.. :LUL:

[dense marlin]

Would be cool if yall work how deadzone works with controller on ps5 zero deadzone is not zero deadzone

[quick coyote]

please make a channel called LFM

[wanton root]

I think final rounds in tournaments/ranked should be a bit more...exciting. the $20,000 cap is ok but a couple of team wipes and it finishes pretty quickly.

I dont know what could be done but personally it feels abit underwhelming

[zealous mural]

so losing due to RANDOM RES in a competitive game is okay to you? are you insane or something? one team gets res near it, one on the other side of the map. that's literally a gacha for a free win. If this game will please only casuals(just like apex does) it will die this year. it's insane. starting with that bullshit free aimbot and ending with this random res shit.

[amber compass]

bros made is superfreakz with a dragon picture trying to roast discord user names who cares what some 1 name is lol my name is like 9 years old ur a bot once again dont type or im gonna tell ur mum u spend 24 hours a day crying that ur aim got nerfed on a game grow up u 13 year old

[hard wasp]

Light is unplayable after plat. Recon senses spammers see you everywhere you go.
Heavy 1 taps you with various methods.
Mines one tap you if you are not 100% hp or if they are gas mines.
Fcar kills you in basically 1 second.

Even light main content creators that are in diamond, switched to medium. There is literally no reason to play Light in this game if you want to win.
Recon senses has to go away, literally removed from the game, or have it's active go on until it's drained. No more constant toggling.

[wanton bramble]

@molten rain is using an alt @dense niche all the guys that react to his message type the same LOL

[terse slate]

Experience for solo ranked is a catastrophe.. its not even an issue of communication but the matchmaking..

[keen steppe]

Light:
Should get faster regenration out of combat to improve their harass-playstyle.

Someone else mentioned a stimshot item which could also work out instead of changing the regen timer. Maybe even make it so you can choose to give that stim to a teammate instead of using it only on yourself.

The sniper could use some love aswell. Not too sure about in what way tho, since that could easily make it too strong. Some experimentation with firerate might be a good first step imo.

M11 is in a weird spot too, it technically is slightly stronger than the xp-45 up close but overall still significantly worse. Maybe enhance the close-range capabilities even more so there is a clear difference between the two.

Sword should be able to hit multiple opponents with the charge attack. (The reverse of heavies hammer)

Medium:
After getting resurrected by defib you should not have invulnerability.

If you get defibbed as a medium you should have your own defib go on cooldown to prevent chain defibs.
OR
Make it so defib isnt instant but just significantly shortens the regular revive-time. Like a sped up version of the normal revive where youd have to keep facing the downed-player trophy.

In addition a reduced effect for multiple healing beams on the same target would be good aswell. One beam heals for 100%, two beams would heal for more than 100% but less than 200%.

A change for recon sense also wouldnt hurt. Maybe make it so it functions similar to thermal vision of light. Where you have to pull out a tablet to activate it and it stays activated for a set amount of time and goes on cooldown afterwards. Also make it pulse every 5 seconds instead of a continuous vision. Each pulse would outline enemies for 1.5 seconds.

Heavy:
Hammer horizontal swings should be able to hit multiple opponents. (The reverse of lights sword)

Performance:
Some performance and optimization improvements are very needed aswell.

Melee AA should be toggleable.

[merry creek]

Definitely weren't an alt account 😂

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E S A N D F İ X R E C O N

[thick fiber]

I'd love a mode where you earn money by destroying things, just an all out destruction fest

[serene schooner]

Fix your servers jfc

[dawn sapphire]

Would help to understand the game better:

-Killcam
-Visualization if enemy teams are premade (duo/trio)

[zealous mural]

yeah ok you are insane. yes, it's better than a gacha for a free win. but there is a simple solution - res everyone 130m away. not 50m, not 250. just a 130. resing us 250m away so we couldn't make it in time and auto lose is ju3st insane.

[gloomy wraith]

Im Console and shitting on mnk U guys really arent that op Like u claim u are the console players that complain are just bad ( just read the message again and realised ur controler)🤣

[olive epoch]

1. Fix matchmaking system
2. Fix nuke
3. Fix recoil
4. Enjoy game

[undone saffron]

I just want mnk support man, I don’t struggle with controller I just think messing about with mnk is good fun. You’re all good man, PC kids in this server suck, no hard feelings.

[wanton bramble]

so you want to cheat on console?

[quick coyote]

I don't like spawning across the map either, but I don't like holding a point and a team we've wiped coming directly back 3 seconds later over and over. Like the other guy said, it has it's flaws but it's equally flawed to everyone. It'd be much more annoying if every team spawned beside the objective constantly. Also you should have enough movement to be able to reach + steal a point if the timer is at half even with a far off spawn.

[wooden storm]

Game has SERIOUS balance issues outside of quick play. Lights are criminally under performing in ranked and tournaments, you might as well throw the game if you're playing light against 3 teams of solely mediums and heavies. They need a buff somewhere or the rest of the classes need serious nerfs. As of right now if you pick light you get flamed and harassed for "throwing". I would love to see the pick rate numbers for each class in ranked or tournaments bc I'd bet Lights are scraping the barrel while M and H are insanely high. As if getting harassed and yelled at in game for choosing light isn't enough It's as if the game itself doesn't want you to play light. It's turning me off entirely, they need a buff asap. Or force L-M-H in rankes

[spare brook]

Hey! Loving the game so far, we're in for quite a ride going forward! One minor request, it's a very specific case but others might stumble upon similar difficulties.
One of my teammates is colorblind, and since the colorblind accessibility settings change the team colors I started referring to the other teams by their placement (eg. Team 1, 2, 3..).
Then our third teammate joined in, who has low visibility on their left eye but no issues with spotting the colors easily. If I refer to the numbers they either have to hone in on the tiny numbers in the top left or hold tab for the scoreboard.

Would it be possible to add some settings for flipping the positioning of the UI elements? For instance the killfeed on the left, and the teams on the right?
We could all just set the colorblind settings to the same settings for the colors, but it's easier for non-colorblind players to tell apart the default colorscheme - and it's somewhat time consuming calling both numbers and colors of enemy teams mid-fight!

Very specific, we're a special bunch I guess haha
Best of luck with the game, looking forward to seeing the evolution of a so far innovative take on a mix of my favorite genres.

[turbid dragon]

A bug where my mouse buttons would not work just cost me a ranked game, even rebinding them in the middle of the game didnt work, i only was able to shoot and aim or use any tools AFTER i died once. This isnt even an uncommon problem as i constantly have issues with keys seemingly not working anymore despite being bound and working outside the game

[undone saffron]

Womp Womp

It's not cheating if we're forced into Cross-play lobbies (which we are) as soon as we plug in our MnK. All it does is give us the option to play MnK if we want to. No one gets hurt (except maybe your egos) and no ones at a disadvantage. It's a game, not life or death ❤️

[rigid wharf]

They have to add squads.

[polar burrow]

The light class is deffo more of an individual / solo class, it doesn't really offer any support to teammates, at least nowhere near what mids and heavies offer. Ranked is all about team play and the survivablity and utility the mids and heavies offer is just far superior to the lights. I don't know what use they are in ranked, unless the person playing is purely focusing on kills as a way of supporting the team, in which case you need a good player using that class. I don't think buffing lights or nerfing mids and heavies is the answer. Maybe a tweak to utilities across the board to make each class as important to the team as each other is a better way of approaching a potential "fix"

[dusty plume]

Good opinion, however I dont think a buff is a good idea. In tournaments you simply play more towards survivability since teamwipe penalty and limited respawn coins are in place. Buffing light enough to make them viable/valuable in a ranked tournament setting will throw of the balance immensly in casual play where they are quite balanced as they are and where higher risk/reward builds are fun and have less of an impact on the outcome of a match.
(also 👉 👌 15 minute cooldown here wth)

[smoky gust]

was this skillful enough to warrant 2 eliminations?

if so, why?
please keep in mind what anyone not using nukes would have been capable of in this situation

[keen steppe]

its similar to rpg but takes more resources to do.
Dmg might be a tad too high otherwise its fine

maybe make it so only one c4 can be stuck to a barrel

skillwise its about the same as an rpg shot - nonexistant

[worn spade]

Crossplay is only for non-global platforms, for example (PS, Xbox) and another platform (Steam, which they can connect to), global crossplay is only activated when you team up with a friend who is on PC from the lobby.

[junior ridge]

Rework spawns, they suck in every way.

[fringe burrow]

big this, I hate it when we are fighting and the enemy gets respawns right next to us at the cash out again, and then when I have to respawn its literally across the map and then I have to spend >30s running back and usually lose the game because of that

[tacit lion]

Only thing I have to say is a fell like the double barrel is terrifying and I feel like there should be more skin options

[noble path]

tracking dart doesn't count towards detect opponents contract for some reason

[wooden storm]

I don't think isolating 1/3 of the classes to only qp is viable for the health and longevity of the game. There are only 3 classes, so you literally are telling 1/3 of the playerbase to not bother with tournaments or ranked bc they're favorite class is garbage and they're useless to the team. Either add ranked bank it or do something to make Lights actually useful in ranked play. Nothing kills a game faster than telling 1/3 of your players that they're trash and useless. It's like OW1 with Goats, they literally made DPS a useless throw pick and if you weren't running 3 tanks and 2 healers you were flamed and thrashed in chat. Then blizz added role lock so the dps players could actually play the game again. I wouldn't be surprised to see L M H role lock in ranked soon

[valid night]

light weapon is bad compare to other class especially on damage range the longest range light weapon is xp54 with 15m and all LMG AR are 35m. plz buff all light weapon range by 5m, plz roll back to OB version LH1 🤔

[undone cobalt]

Fix the hit reg on medium shotgun 🥸 there shouldn’t be instances where a direct hit does 0 damage

[somber tulip]

its been a whole month man, when is System integrity violation gunna get fixed?

[molten trail]

Recon sense is essentially a "tap Q for wallhack" feature and should be removed from the game. Unlike sonar grenade, motion sensor, tracking dart, thermal vision, etc., recon has no nuance or interesting gimmick to it and allows you to see everyone across the map even if they're 10 buildings away sitting in a corner, which should not be possible. It requires no skill to use. Of course you could nerf it by making it pulse and X and Y as players recommend, but it shouldn't exist to begin with.

It ruins games because the enemy team always knows where you're coming from, which in turn ruins surprise attacks, enemies prefire / prenade you around every corner, chase you down which makes evasive playstyles difficult, etc. It's just boring to play against, it's not fun or entertaining, it's boring if the enemy team always knows where you're coming from.

The game should improve its directional audio, and players should rely on skill and sound. There should be consequences to running instead of walking slowly, and you should be rewarded for playing carefully and quiet. The enemy team should not know where you are if you're sitting in a corner in some random building.

[shell whale]

Mouse support for Ps5 pls!

[muted void]

buff goo grenade

[worldly shoal]

ONG

[smoky gust]

both rpg and c4 have a 45 second recharge

in this case i used 2 for an instant kill, but what would have happened if i only used 1?

both would have had incredibly low hp (if the light didn't die outright anyways)
i could probably have taken them on

so yes, in this case it did take more resources, but it definitely didn't need to

Is there any gadget besides c4 and the rpg that could have achieved similar results?
Maybe the rpg is an outlier in need of a tweak as well

[worn spade]

I asked the support the same thing but this is the only thing they say"There is no official support for keyboard and mouse on consoles and we have no plans to implement that support and we have nothing more to share on the subject at the moment, but rest assured that we have heard multiple comments and suggestions that we have noted. If that changes, the news will be shared on Discord!"

[dusty plume]

A L-M-H role lock sounds really sounds very interesting to me from the gameplay aspect but forcing it on ranked mode would suck imo, I think a LMH locked mode alongside the current standard free-pick ranked would be best. Also a buff in the form of a lot more respawn coins for light would be interesting so that their high risk/reward nature is more enabled in ranked gameplay without a buff throwing off the balance in casual.

[wooden storm]

It's necessary if they don't want the entirety of the L playerbase to stop playing entirely. Can only play bank it so much before you wanna actually play ranked or the real game. Or fuck it, add ranked bank it so Lights can actually be viable

[humble folio]

Please nerf the tank class! My idea would be grenades and arena items are no longer blocked by shields (YES because of both). The RPG only does 110 hp damage. and c4 as well as explosive charges and mines no longer stick to gas, fire and toxicgas barrels.

[sonic flare]

You could argue the same for thermal vision, why not take everything out the game

[sonic spoke]

Light support:
invisibility granades give entry into cash out advantage
permanent sonar at cashouts
Harassment for drawing attention
Grapple with sniper rifle for overwatch on cashout. Easy head shots when trying to steal.

[dusty plume]

No way in hell that having 2 options for playing ranked (LMH lock and freepick) would cause light maining community to leave, there is no way that would happen since it would be interesting for M and H players to play that mode as well. As for ranked bank it I think that wouldnt work out great for lights either, when there's a shiny rank on the line players will naturally choose the stronger team configs by not picking light. (for example a LLM team would lose to MMH and MHH in a ranked match even when it is bank it) @wooden storm

[twilit leaf]

nerf invis but let lights regen hp faster

[molten trail]

Thermal vision doesn't allow you to see ppl through walls and it only works in certain scenarios. It even has downsides like not being able to effectively see mines or where you're going, and sometimes the enemy is gray/black and less visible if you're in a bad angle or they're far away. How is it even remotely comparable to recon.

I also never said anything about anything else in the game, it is just recon that should 100% be removed because it has no place in competitive play. For a million different reasons. Obviously you're attached to it now, probably because you play with your friends and you strategize and call out everyone's position through walls, always know where you're going to be rushed from, prefire people and own noobs, etc., which makes winning fun. But just because you're normalized to wallhacks now doesn't mean it has any place in a game like this, and I can assure you me and many other players would quit if they don't eventually either remove it or heavily nerf it

[astral abyss]

Even if they add M&K support for the console version, it will still be far inferior to the PC M&K experience. PS5 and Xbox series X + S don't have true raw mouse input. Mouse inputs have acceleration on them that you can't get rid of. And no matter what mouse DPI and console sensitivity you use it feels jittery and grainy. I hate to break it to you but there it is.

[vapid granite]

Wall hacks (recon sense) in an FPS has to be the dumbest idea i've ever seen, this is coming from someone who plays med, there should be a limited range on it at least, you shouldnt be able to see people from accross the entire fucking map its stupid lol

[simple stirrup]

Letting thermal vision cooldown be varied based on how much of it you used is what's breaking the skill. It should be full cooldown no matter how much of it you used. That's how thermal vision is.

[exotic wave]

Can we get Dualsense support please?

[sonic flare]

Medium is a supportive player remove recon how is that player supposed to counter

[sharp hedge]

fps slider

[deep cobalt]

Just curious of why you guys didn’t let us keep the Halloween event items

[sour bane]

Is it me or does voice chat just not work at all sometimes?

[valid night]

the problem is as a assassin play style class light weapon are pretty bad in TTK compare to M H .it just don't make sense why L class have the lowest HP and their weapon have worst damage range drop off in the game. so i think a damage range buff on all L weapon will help the L do better in Rank with this buff they can stay farther away from enemy and don't get killed in half second.

[obsidian solar]

Instead of recon they should give a Jetpack ability to medium

[uneven nova]

Give the class something else, having wallhack in a fps game is completely stupid, and ruins the experience for a bunch of players.

[sonic flare]

It’s not wallhack bruh it’s a tool that players can use to an advantage to get the upperhand

[dusty plume]

"worst damage drop off" light literally has a fkn sniper...
whole point of light is high risk high reward, the class is meant to be agressive and to win up close. Thats what stun, flashbangs, assasins dagger, invis, glitch grenades, double barrel shotgun, M11 and XP-54 are for. Nearly the whole class is made to play up close and you are surprised its bad on longer range....
Also the guns I mentioned do amazing damage and at those ranges you dont even really need to use your sights. On close range a light will always win from a heavy as long as he doesnt use rpg or a nuke

[dim egret]

laughs in R1

[fluid salmon]

They should add more classes and add a team death match because i have teamates that dont play the objective.

[junior ridge]

Third partying and unlucky losses are so common in this game because the spawns are absolute dogshit

[clever haven]

There should be harsher punishments for leavers in tournament games.

The first leaver penalty of 10 minutes means nothing. Players can leave the game, play a quick play match then rejoin a tournament game. So really that just means that leavers have little to no consequence when leaving a match.

The leaver penalty should be harsher. The exact punishments that I will mention the leaver penalties should be set is not something that should be followed exactly, but the idea is that they should be harsher. The idea I will mention is that the leaver penalty to join a game should be more than the time it takes to finish a round, the timer penalty should include quick play matches, and players who leave after their first teammate left should not be penalized for leaving the game.

The first time leaver penalty should be at least a 20 minute timeout, and it should include quick play matches as well. That means the leaver penalty is longer than it takes to finish a round, and leavers can't just switch to playing quick play instead. The leaver penalties after the first should be harsher than the first leave. What time penalty that should be set at it is up to discussion.

Players who leave after their first teammate left should be penalized for leaving the game. Their needs to be a timer count down where their teammate who left can rejoin the match before the set timer ends before they receive a leaver penalty. Players who leave by specifically pressing the leave game button should not have an option to rejoin the game, and should just be penalized immediately for leaving the game. If a player left in this way, their teammates can leave the match immediately without waiting for a set timer to end. The set timer should be around 1-2 minutes.

[kindred magnet]

is there a known issue with constant "high jitter"? I keep getting the high jitter icon in my game for like 80% of the game although nothing seems to be affected. Idk what jitter even is i tried searching but can not find anything.

[valid night]

most light weapon damage range just 10m in this close your smaller hitbox are basically meaningless , if you both don't miss your shot M H can easily kill a L, all AR and LMG damage range are 35m,do some math ok? 35m compare to 10m!

[sudden heart]

Im diamond and I think light is fine. You need to use it to scout out the area and relay info to your teammates. Traps and such. Defend yourself or the cashout if necessary, and only push with your teammates not alone.

[uneven nova]

It quite literally is, you see people through walls, which simply is a wallhack, what? lol

[halcyon pivot]

WHY AM I GETTING error TFAV2011 I JUST DOWNLLOADED THE FINALES TO PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS AND NEVER PLAYED IT BEFORE IN THE PAST

[sonic flare]

It has a purpose in the game obviously the devs would’ve removed it if it was

[dawn grove]

[hazy otter]

Yall are complaining about the game but I just dont like the turrets or the gas mines they do way to much damage

[sour bane]

I think you should be able to shoot at a Defibbing Med, and if you hit, it cancels their Defib, and they need to wait a second or two before using it. You shouldn't be able to Defib while being actively shot especially in a fast paced high health game like this. Or yeah, remove Invincibility. I get the intent of Defib in which you use it mid battle, but it's being used way too much as a crutch for poor positioning and just.. being bad. Mercy meta in OW1 killed the game for awhile because of how busted Rez is, to the point if you don't have Mercy, you're throwing.

I get the intent of Defib being a mid-battle item, for sure, and I don't want to take that away. But not being able to stop it, it works instantly (you can pre-charge it and hold the charge), it giving invincibility to the Defibbed person, and with how dominant the rest of the Med's kit, not playing Med in ranked pretty much a major disadvanatge, and that's not healthy for ranked in long term :/

[dusty plume]

my guy did you not read what I sent? I'll make it simpler
Light small health 😭 -> fight like assassin 🗡️ -> fight in way that benefits you 💪 -> look at class and loadout 👀 -> see short range weapons -> fight at 10 meter range because that is where you deal more damage than other classes-> win 🏆

light only works when making sure you have favourable conditions, you dont do that and now you're crying not understanding why you lose????? you are literally playing the class the wrong way

[junior ridge]

remove defib invinciblity
remove dead go boom
give heavy 1 c4 + make barrels move slower with c4 on
fix spawns they're aids
las vegas sucks
recon senses are a crime
why am I playing with silvers as a plat while meeting top 50 diamonds

[valid night]

If you can't reach high rank it's not your fault you can still watch on twitch just check high rank player pick rate L is in the bottom, do you think those high rank player don't know how to play this game. because they do understand how to play in the right way so they don't pick L because it's trash! do some research before you make a point next time!

[hasty cliff]

removing defib invincibility is a horrible idea, i think its there is so players can get their bearing’s upon respawning, besides they’re practically blind during that time due to the bright lights that ‘render’ the arena on your screen.

[hidden kite]

just had a match where the cash box was stuck under the ground

[dawn grove]

counter gas with pyro gadgets counter turrets with glitch gadgets

[rigid wharf]

This game is amazing, but I want to play it with all my friends. Sadly since there is only trios one of us is left out. They gotta add a squads gamemode!

[dusty plume]

incorrect opinion detected ✅
No need to do research, pls just use your brain next time before replying to me, thank you 😘
Light has low pickrate in ranked because the class isnt made to play objective and thus to win ranked games. You need reliable teammates and classes to win objectives, not a high risk glass cannon. If you want to buff light so its more viable in ranked, think of other ways like giving them more respawn coins so the class can be played more in its intended way.

[sudden heart]

Make glitch gadgets permanently disable other placed gadgets and I think were chilling

[sonic flare]

I wish stun guns will disrupt turrets tbh

[valid night]

using your brain next time ok, you suggestion is like ah make it rank lock pick hml it's so funny just like braindead OW2, change respawn coin lmfao, change game mechanic to help a poor class because they are too bad at fighting other two class. 🤣

[storm thunder]

Feedback in our opinion should help the game :
The game is too unbalanced in its current state and if not fixed will have its player base plummit alot, what supports my claim is that only after 1 month of release the game has lost 20% of its player base, this is unprecedented in any newly released title, especially those released on steam. Not only me but all of my friends have stopped playing this game since the c4 nuke on canister meta, we aren't pros nor that good at the game we are just trying to have fun playing the game and we can't because of this mechanic, you literally die no matter the hp and it is pretty hard to counter since it needs 7 bullets+ for it to explode immediately, the heavy class in our opinion is already enough overpowered with the rpg and the c4:s, being able to put c4:s on canisters is just way too unbalanced in our opinions. The game is also too 1 dimensional, we think that a new game mode focusing on kills/bomb planting/being able to play 4 in a squad or whatever should suffice and not only the current game mode of depositing money caches and defending/attacking them. This is honestly coming from our hearts since we believe this game has big potential but if not listened to the feedback of the community will unfortunately die just like h1z1 did when they didn't listen to the community and only did too late

[rain turtle]

Brother light class is made for close range and 1v1s, you have multiple gadgets to help you 1v1 other classes, like stun gun.

[kind saddle]

This is probably the most disbalanced game that I’ve ever played

[junior ridge]

Yes and it's op as hell, the person can defib him and heal him up with a heal gun while hiding behind the person. Or use him as a shield to kill the person who won the previous fight.

[dawn grove]

🇼 opinion I wholeheartedly agree

[dusty plume]

From this whole message I immediately see that having a healthy discussion is taking a big toll on your brain. You completely ignore the facts I am sending while not understanding that you playing a class the wrong way is indeed the wrong way to play a class.

[quick coyote]

You've not played many games then lmao

[last saddle]

You need to present facts that actually support your opinion first. Correlation does not mean causation.

[cunning stag]

Could add auto sprint please? I feel like I'm gonna break my controller

[coarse delta]

lol they still didnt nerf the double barrel shotgun

[rigid wharf]

They gotta add squads, like how is that gonna negatively affect the game?

[sudden heart]

only good for one kill then ur stuck reloading

[kindred kettle]

please remove the other teams i dont want to constantly kill one team and clear the objective just for another team to come along and steamroll me just because i have lower health/no or little ammo from a previous fight

[primal cedar]

FPS has tanked since the patch before last. Frame timings are abysmal. same for multiple friends.

[valid night]

it's waste of time to talk with someone who can suggest change game mechanic for a specified role to balance 😅

[errant fern]

RECON SENSES REWORK:

• Instead of literal wallhack, it should work like a radar. It will create static shadow of players through walls once activated and they will quickly fade away (Like cypher ult in VALORANT). The ability can have pretty small CD (maybe like 7 sec). This way it can be used for info gathering, but not for pre-aiming every corner, hunting or beaming down invisible lights.

CLOAKING DEVICE REWORK:

• Cannot re-enter mid-fight = CD equal to the timer of self-heal and also interrupted by taking dmg.
• BUT infinite duration = this way you can scout and choose your first target (balanced bcs of previous point)
• Taking dmg while invisible will only reveal you for like 0.5 sec. If YOU shoot when invisible, the effect will end and go on CD as mentioned before.
• Using gadgets will also reveal only briefly, not stop the effect.

CASHOUT CHANGE IDEA:

• It gives money over time until it finishes (but maybe gives like 25-50% of it in the last second).
• This way it won't feel so horrible to have it stolen last second and will create many more diverse strategies. It also incentivizes depositing the vault first to gain as much money as possible before potentially losing it.

Thanks for taking it into consideration ❤️ .

[dusty plume]

I literally suggested more respawn coins, you are only saying more damage! more damage!! which is a dumb way to buff a class with a playstyle you dont understand because it will throw off balance

[calm sedge]

Why tf do I get suspended from tournaments when there's a server error preventing me from joining the match? @dense gulch

[brittle temple]

dm me if you wanna play the finals with me in relitively kn==new but know what im doing just trying to chill and have fun

[prime summit]

I wanna give a huge shout-out to the devs and everyone involved for enabling Steam Deck support. Bravo. You have my thanks

[foggy shell]

Honestly, I dont think invis is all that overpowered at the moment, I think its the strongest option light has, but thats only because their other options dont give the value it does.

Invisibility allows the light to do what its supposed to, to sneak around and do hit and run, because right now light is one shot by alot of things, and their weapons require so much recoil control that it feels like the only way to actually get an opptertunity to do your job is to literally be invisible.

If were going to nerf invis were going to need to look at the ease of use of lights weapons, because while their dps are all great, they require so much extra consideration that other characters just dont need.

[quick coyote]

Has anyone else experienced a bug where an enemy turret is unable to be damaged, but still deals damage to you? This just happened in my ranked game.

[bleak coral]

3 coins = light
2 coins = medium
1 coin = heavy
ez

[valid night]

use your brain before you talk ok? all player whatever what class they play, everyone feel the same frustration from death. are you gonna tell light player we will help you by letting you have more chance to dead? this idea to dumb as fk for a competitive game 😅

[placid cobalt]

Seriously it's already hard enough using the Heavy;s Grenade launcher seeing as you can't direct hit people for damage, as soon as Low gravity comes on that's it it's game over for you because your shots will take minutes to reach the enemy

[orchid ginkgo]

Idea about having in-game sponsors:

Would be cool if we can choose sponsor like Volpe, Holtow etc. When you choose one of them, you should put on some sponsor related stuff (stickers on weapon, charms, maybe dedicated sponsor items?) and when you wear them in game you get to progress sponsor of your choice. Higher sponsor progression -> unlock better and cooler sponsor related cosmetics.

[dusty plume]

Light player has less HP, its only natural that he dies more
you are literally saying you want a class that has less hp but doesnt die as often when playing the same way as other classes with more health you are actually asking for the impossible here

[errant fern]

I completely agree, but I don't consider my suggested change a nerf at all tbh. The invisibility is quite weak because of the recon senses being quite rampant right now and it counters it like crazy, which is why I want that to be changed as well.

I think that dash is really good for playing the hit and run, they just need to buff light somehow to survive more (something like RPG nerf + 25 health or smth). The invisibility would then be more like assasination build for starting fights.

But the current invisibility, while not being necessarily overpowered, is quite unhealthy for the game and annoying to play against. Just changing it alone would allow much more space for other light build buffs.

[tall sparrow]

Nerf the nukes already

[prisma ledge]

Can you please address the issue where players get disconnected in the first round after launching the game? It's extremely frustrating to spend 10-15% of the game time dealing with rejoining issues and being dead as a result.

Today, I forgot to play a quick game immediately after launching the finals, which led to me getting disconnected. I had to spend time dead, and then I was forced to use a token, only to die again when my team was overrun while I was en route to join them. When I was finally able to play, I encountered a cheater who used a cheat that made canister shots hit an invisible wall. Subsequently, I got taken out and couldn't report the cheater because the report screen froze during respawning. My frustration later made me forget to report him in the score screen.

[quick coyote]

asking again

[errant fern]

NEW PAID COSMETIC IDEA:

• Purchasable music that plays in the cashout station. Whenever someone deposits vault or steals the cashout, it starts playing his music.
• Perhaps it could also change the effect/audio when it finishes.
• I'd be buying the heck of it and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[pine hatch]

There seems to be a bug that whenever I use the expression button my ability is unavailable for use. I'm using Recon Senses and when I use the Meow expression I can't use Recon Senses for about 10 seconds

[royal flume]

I understand the need for the aim assist nerf but please add a performance mode for console. We are at a ridiculous disadvantage to PC players now and cross play is not playable in the current state the game is in.

[modern wedge]

please add text chat

[topaz verge]

Please add back the virtual extension weapon skins (the skins that made them look like in real life) they were free and actually looked amazing, it might not seem like much but cosmetic-wise they are actually very cool

[median bramble]

yes I faced this as well

[quick coyote]

cheaters still going strong

[clever haven]

Just because someone did good doesn't mean they are cheating. This game has almost practically no skill based matchmaking. They could just be a much better player than everybody else in their lobby.

Their stats look legit.

[pliant sentinel]

Just played finals against full cheaters team with aimbot they were killing us from 250m away where is the anti-cheat ?

[iron thunder]

Just played a ranked match against a 3 stack of top 350 players while me and my teammate were in bronze 2.... The players were #157, #174, and #348... Absolutely bonkers matchmaking

https://imgur.com/a/lXFW9G8

[chilly gale]

the finals is riddled with toxic controller heavy players who think they are good,

please reduce the amount of aim assists for these "players"

lol a 30% reduction? stop talking controller advocates really hahahahah this shit has to be reduced by atleast 90% lol wtf is this tailored to 6 year old kids?

@sharp belfry @strong escarp

[sharp belfry]

Someone hasn't been doing their reading

[strong escarp]

already reduced

[fresh rain]

9 loadout slots, I have 1 light 2 medium and 3 heavy builds, 1 for light cause I like medium and heavy more and 3 for heavy cause I like switching specs depending on enemy team types/teammate's loadouts 9 slots would mean you could have a loadout for every spec of all classes and allow me personally to switch depending on the game better, like I enjoy running heal and turret on medium but if theres 1 or more lights, they're likely be invis so I'd want to switch to recon before the game starts or if I make the heal/turret loadout a recon loadout before I'm in a game and my teammates are already on recon I'd want to go T/H, ya get me?

[karmic cloud]

another new hacked client just launched that lets players take the cashout from anywhere

[wild axle]

Am I supposed to get trapped under rubble unable to move

[oak shale]

why do i keep getting kicked out the game about anti cheat failed or something

[quick coyote]

lol. 14k damage. tell me another joke

[waxen cedar]

Not hard to get 10k<? In fact, 14 k damage seems low to me for 16 kills.

[crude brook]

I need that explicit heterogeneous m-gpu support. I'm seething

[modern wedge]

my computer isnt exactly high end, but it for sure isnt near poor quality. the amount of crashes are ridiculous
prolly gonna have to uninstall ngl

[golden iron]

You should add ranked bank it but separate to the cash out one

[dusty plume]

doesnt have to do with your pc, lots of pc players are getting crashes constantly. I can only suggest to wait for an update since its a very widespread problem

[lofty quest]

i have a bug that i just came across. when one of the teams put the safe in the cashout in literally last second, it skipped the whole time and just gave them the 22k and therefore me and my friend lost the round.
https://streamable.com/dtf4gs

[brave wolf]

this is an intense feature. if there is an active cashout by the time the match timer runs to zero, the match will enter overtime and give whatever amount of extra time Is needed to complete said cashout

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E S A N D R E C O N

[noble nimbus]

I'm not sure how recon was before patch 1.4 on release as I didn't start using it until I started climbing ranked, but in the notes it says the activation cost was reduced to 1 from 2? I think you should revert this change. It would stop people having constant wall hacks, it gets spammed all game.

[hasty cliff]

okay i see your point but completely removing defib invincibility is a bad idea, maybe reducing the invincibility time by half a second or so would make it more balanced

[south spoke]

why can’t i quit a ranked tourney w only one teammate… that’s stupid we have no one else let us leave

[misty owl]

FIX THE DAGGER! 🙏
Remove the melee auto aim(or make an option to disable it) and fix the hitbox of back.

[frosty agate]

RELEASE THE FINALS SOUNDTRACK ON SPOTIFY!!!!!!!!!

[dusty plume]

WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?

NERF NUKE

[pine hatch]

Bug: It seems using any expression (spray or tune) disables the Recon Senses ability for a few seconds

[viscid spire]

these nukes make me not want to play

[gentle zealot]

I think you're misunderstanding. If a team manages to start the cashout at the very exact moment the game ends, the overtime gets skipped and the cashout gets awarded instantly.

[south gale]

Sooooo what’s with getting teammates in all sorts of ranks below you when you play? I could see 1 tier but 2 tiers seems a bit strange

[warped grotto]

Please add keyboard compatibility for console it would make the game so much more accessible

[balmy shore]

NERF NUKE

[cold pilot]

REMOVE RECON

👇 then who can counter recon

[sonic flare]

Recon is like one of the only counters against lights

[brave wolf]

if you didnt, Id recommend clipping things like that in the future. as far as I know, both console platforms have that built in and there are plenty of softwares available if you're on PC. at least then reviews and such can be done, and the apparent bug potentially broken down or at least further understoodm

[proud gate]

Delete VEGAS cuz bad

[cloud jungle]

What if Recon didn't show enemies that are closer than 30 meters?

That way it'll be used for macro decision making instead of prefiring and nullifying flanking strategies.

[gentle zealot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/18s1z0q/how_did_i_get_the_cash_out/

[shy walrus]

I have just flown out of London Gatwick Airport and it hit me: LGW would be great as a map because it would be a better version of Vegas that is actually be fun to play! It would fit this game so well

[sinful lance]

literally everything counters light class cause half the equipment in the game can elim light class without even being physically present and half the guns can do > 150dmg in less than 2s anyone going off about light class needing a counter is honestly probably just not very good at the game in general

[dusty plume]

tbh I'd change that whole ability at that point. maybe make it into a map with positions and orientations of every player

[fierce hinge]

Game is awful as a solo queuer and will be it's downfall

[wise monolith]

We need new mods like tdm dom and a bit of optimization for pc's but the game is fire as hell

[ancient hare]

Hey Embark did you consider the huge number of ReWASD outliers when looking at "internal data" on AA? Wouldn't those users show up as controller input? It'd be goofy as hell if yall didn't factor that into the equation js

[lapis dust]

Add soloq and duo/triplet queue, boom solved

[sonic flare]

Sounds to me your just crying because you’re being pre spotted how about you change up your strategy son. If you get jumped by another squad too bad.

[raven folio]

legit cheating

[stone mirage]

Quick suggestion on how to balance / rework Recon Sense for Medium class.

1. Movement based detection. If people move, they begin to glow. If they stop, they shortly fade away.
2. Reduce the detection range and add detection range falloff.
3. Enemies within 10m are visible as per today, even if they stand still.

[trim compass]

New gamemode idea

High roller

Free for all match. An elimination timer will go off every 3minutes. The bottom 3 will burst into money and be eliminated at 0 seconds. Until only one is left standing.

You gain money by killing other players. You gain a fraction of money by getting assist. You lose money by getting killed.

8 players.

3rounds in a single game. Every 3mintues, the 3 lowest earners are gone. By second elimination, there will only be two left to determine who the high roller is. The less players on the map, the more money you lose when killed.

[hasty eagle]

moving platforms (have allways kinda) feel bad to play on/against
the cashbox on thease platforms moves too much/too easily
Throwables dont allways behave properly on thease platforms
the re-spawning and path to get to the platforms is inconsistant and sometimes youve got to wait a solid 20~seconds before you can even get onto the platform
The platforms have created some really nice plays that me and my team have done but overall, if ive got the cashbox, i try to avoid the platforms

[sinful lance]

Hard agree. Also 'Wallhacks' as an 'ability' in FPS is overdone and frankly completely devoid of creativity and just turns into a crutch for players who otherwise have zero gamesense and turns otherwise good players completely off your game as mobility and using positional game sense to outplay your opponent is practically removed from strategic gameplay. Invis should be removed because I frankly don't believe it's fair for people with vision accessibility issues or PCs which don't render the graphics properly and Recon Senses should be removed because frankly there is no counter and I honestly don't think they bring an element of 'fun' or nuance of skill at all.

[misty owl]

FIX THE DAGGER! 🙏
Remove the melee auto aim(or make an option to disable it) and fix the hitbox of back

[humble wave]

Portal traveling specialization for light, please embark

[balmy orbit]

fuck your and your buggy ass game that crashes mid game

[dreamy latch]

All forest/jungle map would be so cool

[stable quiver]

works for me on steamdeck. just need to force it to use proton experimental (bleeding edge version, go to manage and select it from the beta menu)

also have proton antieasycheat installed as well

you can do this from desktop mode, go to steam library and search for proton

[dapper iron]

Yeah they recently added it

[fiery thorn]

please look into the weapon models sights are different from where the bullet actually comes from (the center of the screen). I believe this affects all guns but it's really bad on the sniper and revolver

[wicked mason]

I just need that the H shield not having so much health cuss killing 3 H with bubble and the ability shield feels so un fair to go against

[sinful lance]

Man who's clearly never played with 3 Medium

[tulip flax]

try and sort out server issues so that the server lags / kicking people out isnt happening alot

[unkempt basalt]

I’ve seen a lot of complaints about sound not being accurate. I personally have never had sound be deceptive in this game just thought I’d throw that out there

[orchid jewel]

same I'm back to overwatch lol

[ancient heron]

pls add m&k settings to console

[harsh trail]

day 21 of asking for a throwing knives balance patch/bug fix to make them a viable weapon option

[opal harness]

years

[finite dew]

fix the cheaters. especially when people can shoot through mesh and bubble shield

[lost ruin]

GET BACK THE MAGNETISM ONLY TO CONSOLE PLAYER PLEASE

[unkempt basalt]

No!

[crude brook]

im disappointed in the lack of discussion in explicit heterogeneous m-gpu support. -> let me offload the physics load so my fps are stable when a heavy decides to detroy the tallest building on the map

[pastel pond]

nerf het melee and disable its auto aim because it feels like u can always die from a lite using melee and the clocking device.

[candid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/zapped-rolling-taser-zap-electric-gif-13234298

[glossy scaffold]

when are they gonna buff light

[compact wharf]

fix the cheaters

[dreamy swan]

I can’t invite anyone to me

[solemn perch]

anyone else get perma-invisible when using the vanishing bomb? i know it's only client side

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E A N D R E C O N İ F Y O U H A V E A B R A İ N B İ G G E R T H A N A B İ R D

[modern wedge]

add text chat, im sick of no comm games

[young falcon]

@rustic bloom @dense niche

[molten trail]

Absolutely. I've used recon myself and noticed that it makes me think less... I no longer have to memorize spawn points on the map or worry about enemies, I don't have to look at the scoreboard or play carefully. I just tap Q to see enemies through the walls and it completely changes my playstyle. If there's 3 teams across the map, I can chill and do nothing and troll with my teammates. Suspense is removed from the game entirely, and sound or directional audio doesn't matter anymore.

It does become a crutch more than anything, and long-term it even damages you as a player since you're basically playing like a closet cheater and less like a player with good game sense. You start relying on it to prefire corners and chase enemies down, shoot them through bushes or spots you normally wouldn't be able to see them. You use it for everything just because of how op it is until you build a dependence on it like the players arguing that it isn't op right now. At that point you might as well be ragehacking, it's not fun and not fun to play against.

[prisma vault]

I have been using medium for about 2 weeks now with the turret and I finally tried out the recon sense earlier for 2 games and went like 18-5, felt disgusted with myself and switched back to my turret haha

[stone mirage]

Quick suggestion on how to balance / rework Recon Sense for Medium class.

1. Movement based detection. If people move, they begin to glow. If they stop, they shortly fade away.
2. Reduce the detection range and add detection range falloff.
3. Enemies within 10m are visible as per today, even if they stand still.

[molten trail]

I think even that's OP because no one is going to stand still in a fast-paced game where constantly moving is important. Even if you could only see people within 10 meters, you still shouldn't know if there's someone 5 floors below you w/o sound.

What recon needs is a complete rework. For example, give light or medium a bow with 'recon arrows' you can shoot, and it would attach onto objects and pulse enemies through walls within like 10 meters in the room. Something like that which requires skill.

[grim arrow]

edit: wrong channel

[jagged moth]

auto-reload weapon when getting revived.

[tacit galleon]

anyone running into tfge0001 on linux? i can't join any games atm

[quick coyote]

Day 4 of asking for a Tokyo map or bundle

[astral plover]

Please nerf the rpg it kills lights in one shot and it's super over powered for heavy

[hushed edge]

Prioritize fps/performance instead of quality graphics

[cloud jungle]

Recon and cloak both need a rework.

Mapwide wallhacks just nullify any strategy that isn't mindlessly pushing into a 3v3 fight.

While cloak is useless against anyone who can see it and overpowered against anyone who can't.
And that depends on your irl eyesight, which really doesn't sit well with me from an accessibility standpoint.

[ancient heron]

i love the fact that m&k is supported on console, but being stuck on the default settings feels extremely limiting...

[edgy siren]

Do people think directional audio in this game is bad? I think it sounds pretty good

[red ermine]

M&K on console is beautiful I just wish I could put the sensitivity up more tbh

[ancient heron]

yess embark please add the option to change m&k keybinds and sensitivity on console (for me the main issue is keybinds lol im used to pressing q to sprint and in the finals q is for your specialization and I end up activating my specialization by accident)

[molten trail]

I think the main issue is your own footsteps / teammate footsteps are louder than the enemies, so you're often looking behind you when you're really just listening to yourself run. It could 100% use some improvement and I've seen more people complain about audio in this game than not

[red ermine]

Just change the as you would on controller. You just have to do the math on it.

[violet mulch]

it's crazy we have to pretend recon is a genuine playstyle and not just straight up wall hacks

[queen rover]

Recon sense is an absolute embarrassment of game design

[midnight sierra]

recon is not entirely bad tbh since they need to replace the heal gun to use it
they just need to have a better indicator to show when someone is seeing you with it along changes to the cooldown (reworded bc im not saying its balanced lmao, im saying its not gamebreakingly OP to play against a player that has it. an entire lobby is a different story tho lol)

[molten trail]

pretty much, recon gives an illusion of being legitimate and skill-based cuz you see holograms through walls as opposed to chams and esp or 2d boxes around the enemy, but it literally is just wallhacks in the end. if you downloaded a cheat with wallhacks, you'd pretty much play the exact same as you do with recon, except the wallhack duration would be longer

And nah we don't want an indicator that someone is using recon or weird nerfs to it, we just want it gone entirely, it shouldn't exist. Or if you do nerf it, it should be to point where it's on par with sonar grenade or motion sensor or something with heavy restrictions

[bleak coral]

in my mind it should be like bloodhound from apex legends

[quick coyote]

day 4, hour 2 of asking for a tokyo map or bundle🤡

[midnight sierra]

i agree it should be reworked if theyre going to keep it added, but sonar grenade literally has a "spotted" indicator so i dont see why it shouldnt also be on recon sense when they do eventually rework it.

theres a lot of things they can do to balance it (i.e. making it only a one-time use before the entire cooldown starts, making it so you only see the static position of someone instead of where theyre moving to, making it like apex legends' bloodhound like runty said, etc), but compared to other issues like heavies' c4 nuke even as a heavy main lol i wouldnt say it needs a COMPLETE removal. just needs a heavy rework, its not impossible to balance something like this in a game lmao. also they have to completely remove heal beam to use it which is lowkey the only reason i dont mind it existing lol, its one less healer on the opponent's team

[raven folio]

wipe k/d after each season

[smoky gust]

melee weapons suffer a lot during the dead go boom event

how I would fix it:
change the explosions to deal no damage but have strong knockback
it would throw around contestants, debris and/or the cashout itself (maybe we should keep the building destruction as well)

instead of punishing someone for winning a fight, it would basically just cause a lot of chaos

it may even allow some melee-madman to explosive-jump at an enemy to slam them with a sledge

thoughts?

[round nova]

cooldown shld be monitored for recon and invisibility. though they have two gadgets for each prefrences. (Dart n grenade)

[nocturne falcon]

Just curious why does the heavy body slam have to do 130 damage, can’t it just do half that and just do more knockback

[pulsar sail]

So I just experienced a glitch where the equipment screen read urban samurai bundle with the description "This is a longer description of what the selected or viewed item is and why a player should care and reserve space for 3 lines minimum".

[cold pilot]

just win a game, 2 recon mediums handle 6 lights ezpz 🤣 cant even take a cashout

REMOVE RECON

[austere egret]

Limit each team to one set of defibs

[wide aspen]

Remove the Nuke, 0 brain gameplay

[tall sparrow]

Aa nerf to strong we don't aim with our hand or have the movement an strafing pc players have
Fix nukes

[raven folio]

game crashed during a damn tourny.....fix that maybe...

[valid saffron]

Fix urself, caveman input user. I shouldn’t need to cope with your inability to adapt to MnK despite playing on pc.

[vocal cave]

matchmaking is kinda horrendous, in no way am I a silver with 2 bronze teammates supposed to play against all plat and diamond teams 💀

[azure swift]

Need better anti cheat, most games i play, have a full team of cheaters

[woven phoenix]

customs lobbies. I have a large friend group and would be awesome to be able to play with everyone.

[sturdy crane]

I agree

[thorn elbow]

• remove recon
• remove nukes
• increase defib cooldown and/or make it an ability not a gadget
• increase cloaking cooldown (since recon is gone it needs a rework)
• decrease SH1900 headhot dmg from 360 to 300
• slighty increase RPG AOE radius but with damage downscale based on the distance from impact point
• Make gas go away faster (no matter the source)

[quick coyote]

reWASD is still working.
Patch pls.
You can turn off software and use reWASD service.
And you will get AA with MnK
Also anti recoil

[frank knot]

certain gloves cover the watches or wrist bands, fix pls i want both

[tight oak]

Add some sort of match replay or highlight system, that way players can reflect on their gameplay

[raven folio]

and cheater spectate

[ancient heron]

Oh ok...thx a lot!!! What abt keybinds tho, any way to change that?

[opal harness]

i like dogs

[simple stratus]

Been playing a lil too much hanzo

[blissful bridge]

We need more cosmetics and lower the pricing. I'd buy more if it wasn't $20 for a bundle of digital items.

[tropic swift]

Remove nukes
Remove recon
Remove cloaking
Remove destruction
Also remove guns
And remove jumping
And finally remove everything because it’s op

[languid breach]

Yall better do something major next update cause goddamn this shit needs hella tweaking

[hasty oriole]

I think the defibs would be fine if they didn't grant invulnerability.

[summer venture]

i hope this game dies if light remains as unbalanced as it is, this games already turning out to be a meta = win and nothing else. pick light in comp and youre inherently throwing bc of how unbalanced it is

[raven folio]

ya you need to go meta weapons with vanish or your screwed they need to buff their health slightly....maybe even sacrifice a little speed for health. buff their weapons or give them sometime of health device that can only be used once a game

[wanton root]

Every other competitive game is the same these days bro get good

[lament sable]

I got into 3 ranked matches with the same person and he got 0 kills each game. How is this possible. Why do I get the same teammate 3 games in a row if he gets 0 kills and it can’t be skill based I’ve dropped multiple 20 kill games can someone pls explain? Am I being trolled by a dev to lose ranked points?

[sinful lance]

NO SEEING THROUGH WALLS PERIOD this mentality needs to leave FPS games FOREVER. DO NOT ACCEPT COMPROMISE. People have eyes and they should have game sense too. This mentality of wallhacks being cute or necessary needs to be eradicated from FPS entirely. All it does is raise skill floor for people who otherwise have no sense at all and it provides zero in terms of skill nuance or creativity

[molten panther]

NERF HEAVY PLEASE

[rose aurora]

Increase the number of ligth lives by 25

[languid breach]

fcar on roller go hard rn

[bleak coral]

i agree, but i have a feeling they not gonna remove anything from game outright - hence in my head it works like a scan which has limited range and only paints an image instead of live tracking.

[quick coyote]

Does the game chat work for anyone?

[sinful lance]

If 'walls' continue to stay meta in any FPS game then I will stop playing it and frankly anyone that also feels this lowbrow trash in an fps game should too. And I'll tell people as much.

[cobalt sun]

is there any release date for private servers?

[royal cosmos]

Agreed. Knowing where people are or might be based on experience and intuition (ie. gamesense) is literally one of the core basics of skill in games. Putting in abilities to essentially negate having to learn and utilise that skill is straight up incompetent design. What's next, an ability for light that turns you into a spinbot to hit only headshots for the low, low price of a single button press?

[viral fern]

Suggestion: Daily/Weekly tasks once Battle pass is maxed and we are level 40. Give 5 premium currency per completion, or some other number? No point doing them once the above criteria is met

[quick coyote]

Are you able to delete/create contestants? I know bugs with loadouts are typically fixed by deleting the contestant that's bugged and making a new one. Or just remaking all of them.
But yeah, servers are wild for some people.

[livid bone]

nerf lewis gun

[pale estuary]

we NEED text chat.... been playing since launch and theres only been 2 people with mics...

also this game is NOT fun solo queuing we need a solo only playlist or just more optimized matchmaking...

more modes would be fun... like team deathmatch or more relaxed modes

[pine bane]

Voip chat should be opt out not opt in, most people leave it off

Oh and quick resume on xbox breaks your game i have to restart every time i wanna play

[gloomy wraith]

Opinion that i havent seen yet is make ranked more rewarding Moving up to daimond Is way too easy and isnt a acomplishment In probably most people their eyes Make it if u lose that u lose more points

[lime isle]

More over theres absolutelly 0 matchmaking in ranked. like at all

[quick coyote]

pls add tokyo map or bundle

[celest tree]

make cosmetics buyable with VRs

[cyan nexus]

The game doesn't have reconnection right?
The game crashed and I can not reconnect with my friends

[glossy compass]

recon senses should be able to see invisibility

[solar matrix]

Make cosmetics buyable with VRs or add more items you can buy with VRs

Also add more modes

[zenith abyss]

Hello, I bought the Battle Pass at lvl 9 but I have not been rewarded the 150 gold from lvl 3 and lvl 7. How to solve it?

[dense dagger]

In ranked or in esports (if there ever is one) I think that the selection of classes must be restricted to (1 Heavy, 1 Medium, 1 Light) necessarily.
3 medium (triple recon/heals/defib) or 3 heavy (triple RPG/C4) for example is too strong and unbalanced (as a Light these 2 comps are extremely hard to play against). Then people will have to choose between either heal with no wall hacks or wall hacks but no heals for example.

[quick coyote]

Hello everyone, I'm Rony Guerra, a fellow gamer and a passionate data analyst. Currently, The Finals is my favorite first-person shooter game, and I invite you to participate in this survey as it is crucial to understand the impact of aim assist in FPS games. Whether you're pleased with recent changes or have concerns, your insights are valuable.

Your collective feedback in this survey has the potential to contribute to a broader conversation within the gaming community. Your insights may influence discussions and considerations in the development not only of this game but also in other FPS titles. Therefore, I kindly ask for your assistance in completing this quick survey and would greatly appreciate your responses.

I am aiming for a minimum of 100 responses to ensure meaningful results. The more, the better! Your answers will only be used for survey analysis, and I'll share the results right here when it's all done. It's a quick survey and should only take a few minutes to complete.

Your feedback is valuable for my data analysis project, and I'm excited to share the insights with the community.

Access the survey here: https://forms.gle/a9yrvgwDh8hY4DbEA

Thank you for your participation and support!

[broken light]

Thanks for ruining my life

[broken lake]

asking one again, very politely to be allowed to hold dagger backstab. That would be great, thank you

[wary jetty]

the finals is an arcade shooter, im sure that these "people who otherwise have no sense at all" are much more numbered and valued than you by embark , as a medium main i can tell you personally that the recon senses and sonar grenade are strong but not overpowered, the sonar grenade doesnt last long and has a limited range with a "ping" system its a pretty weak pick considering there are so many better zoning ability's at your disposal. as for recon senses, it encourages team play due to the fact that you are the only one who can see enemies and where they are going, it drains quickly and removing it from the game is definitely not an option. at most a duration decrease MAYBE but if you cant deal with this ability it sounds like you're not much better than the people who otherwise have no sense at all you described before.

[pliant marsh]

I don’t understand why being tazed forces you to put away whatever you’re holding and switch back to your primary. As a result, not only is the tazed person at a massive disadvantage due to the inability to ads, but the long animation of switching back to the primary basically means it’s a guaranteed kill if someone tazes someone as they’re holding a secondary weapon/gear. It also really feels like there should be some sort of risk for the player using the taser because right now it feels like a guaranteed kill in most situations where you isolate someone or if you’re tazing last team member without much effort. This is coming from someone who plays heavy and light pretty equally, I don’t run with a taser because it almost feels like exploiting something that’s broken, for me currently it isn’t fun to use or have used against you. It’s basically like early mei from overwatch, sounds good on paper but just gives out guaranteed kills if the rest of the target’s team is dead. It feels like currently, 1/2 the time I’m killed it’s because of a taser and that’s often in part due to the long weapon swap animation it forces me into.

[hazy swallow]

optimize the game!

[quick coyote]

Recon senses is stupid OP. You just like it too much. Removing it? Maybe not, but it does need a heavy nerf lol.
You can toggle it to save cooldown, you can track every other team from any part of the map (the range is INSANE), it has no counter or alert (unlike sonar grenades/tracking dart), it's cooldown even when exhausted is very short and you don't have to wait for a full charge, you can very easily spawn camp with it, can always tell when to prefire, you always see everyone's position in real time (unlike sonar/dart where's it's a brief shadow outline), and more.
It's literally a built in ESP.
There is no way you can say this isn't VERY overpowered lmao. It doesn't matter if you have great game sense or not, it will outclass others sense/object awareness in every regard.

[rose snow]

[wary jetty]

without recon invisibilty would be OP asf lol

[rose snow]

Throwing Knives being as viable as any other weapon would be nice. I would like to get better with them as my non-gun of choice. Buff sounds vague but they could use an upgrade. Be it in animation time, the type of animation, spread, etc.

[radiant arrow]

Just a minor tweak, but I would make the light's heat vision use on equip (like the invisibility cloak). Doesn't change the balance in any way, but at least I wouldn't need a full second or two to pull it out and then activate it with an extra mouse click.

[worldly spade]

nerf heavy builds, add maybe attachments u can buy with 200 of the currency

[quick coyote]

With invis players you can:

1. See their shimmer effect (once you're used to it it's not hard to spot on most maps)
2. Sonar them
3. Trap an area off with fire/gas
4. Thermal vision
5. Still hear them
6. Literally just don't be alone
   Invis is not hard at all to fight against lmao, dash lights are much worse

With recon players you can:

1. Pray they're too far away to care
2. Hope their team is horribly uncoordinated
3. Have your location known at all times

[pallid cliff]

Again, I know a lot of people disagree with me but.... Just played a game first teammate one shot a light from 100+ meters with the RPG then to follow that up I got sniped 80+ meters with RPG I don't know if this is intended play design but, does not make for fun game play in my opinion. Between sticking c4 to throwables and the RPG along with all of heavies other utility seems a bit broken.

[cold tulip]

medium is stupid. not fun to play rn bc of it

[turbid gate]

lights have to hit the 10m shot then dome anyone who isnt a light to gurentee the kill. Heavies have nukes, rpg c4 an a multitude of other things that insta kill lights with no skill. in other words womp womp

[wary jetty]

idk i think the best idea would be to just make it charge system where you have like 3 charges or something banked and when you use the ability it would show everyone on the map (how it does now or a slightly reduced range) and also let them know their detected, the recharge rate would be very slow but you can have up to 3 at a time. i feel like that would be the most balanced solution.

[plucky veldt]

plz nerf esp skill

[hasty oriole]

I started playing this game by mainly playing light sniper. I've moved off it after getting to gold one because it not worth it anymore with all the mediums running the FCAR and Recon... Something I don't see mentioned is that a light with a sniper and glitch grenades counters the heavies so well. You're too far away to get nuked. Your glitch grenades take out their shield. They are so slow you can dot 'em. They have to hit a great shot to hit you with the RPG and it feels like skill rather than cheese. Unfortunately, there are so many mediums running recons sense that hunt you down with wall hacks and the FCAR is so accurate and powerful that good players will take you out from deep.

[royal flume]

Please add a performance mode for console. This game is a competitive shooter, frame rate is so much more important than shiny graphics and 60 fps feels very slow and unresponsive

[summer venture]

sure you can say that about grindy comp shooters. I used to be a GM at overwatch myself, and frankly it sucks your soul out.

If your standard of playing games is to not have fun and be a meta slave to win, go for it. But that still speaks lengths on what kind of person plays, not enjoys, those kinds of games.

Either way, an imbalance is an imbalance. There's a very clear meta atm and it light isnt at all a part of it as its a throw pick. Retention rates won't be high on the long run if this remainds unaddressed, especially as the playerbase has matured from its recent launch, the gap between classes grows constantly.

[nocturne flare]

Text chat when?

[indigo pagoda]

There should really be more variety in daily quests, I've seen the "elim with quick melee" like 3 or 4 days in a row I swear :(

[uneven prism]

NERF THE BLOODY KATANA FFS just the scaredy lights uses em so annoying omg

[broken lake]

slim the spread, increase the speed, lower the spacing between the throws. (also lower the time to fire the secondary and let us hold it)

[hexed kayak]

Enabling linux support on the last patch was huge for the community, the game runs even better on linux than on windows now.
You can see in real time the positive feedback on protondb about the game, overall a great addition in making The Finals a big competitive game.
Congrats to the team and all involved!!

[sour zodiac]

One problem: when I use the turrets it’s complete garbage but when it’s used against me some external cheats are activated. I get aimboted back to the lobby

[rose vigil]

Linux ?? What is that and is it available for windows

[limber pasture]

Please buff throwing knives whilst nerfing the absolute sh*t out of RPG, im against one shots in pretty much every game but I think most of the existing ones like c4 are fine, aside from RPG, you should not be able to one shot a light within a second just by taking it out and shooting. Lights already are at a disadvantage, rpg is just downright unfair and make the game at times unfun. Buffs to lights in general to make them actually compete in ranked would be appreciated as a whole

[wild shale]

Heavies having extra health and 2 shield items is kinda op

As well as it would be sick if there was a mode where I could go up against my friends

[runic needle]

My favorite thing on the fucking planet is getting a ban sanction because the game crashes and won't let me rejoin way to go guys

[shrewd geyser]

i reckon they should ad your kills and rank under your name so the ranked badge and say 10.3k for the kills. itd be cool to see in the starting lobbies

[bold relic]

@rustic bloom @worthy roost @quick coyote @hardy shuttle @patent pendant tagging active embark users because this feedback channel and discord channel as a whole seem like unmoderated masses of toxic people screaming into the void with no dev interaction. Can you please restrict the HUD to 16:9 for ultrawide users? turning your head to see your HP sucks mid-fight. Also, this channel is legitimately terrible. If you all are even reading this please make bug reports and such available through the game or via email because posting in any of these channels feels useless with how toxic they are and discourages any serious feedback from being submitted. Good luck managing a community like this lol

[hasty rampart]

Fix your matchmaking

[grim steeple]

Fun fact, Linux IS available for Windows.

[shrewd geyser]

its not that bad dude

[summer venture]

I wanna say, aye i agree with you on some points BUT THIS IS MORE FOR THE DEVS:
The reason why I submit feedback this much is as I truly want to see it succeed, its the most fun ive have in FPS for such a long time. Its a great game and youve done amazing on it, but i agree with this guy on the note that I would like to see some kind of interaction with the devs in the littlest way possible, i know you dont wanna 'spoil' upcoming patches and then have to babysit anyone who disagrees, but still

[cold trellis]

Scramble Crossing could be alot of fun especially with the 109 building not far. Please make this a thing devs!

[bold relic]

I also want the game to succeed, but I'm not much for joining large channels like this and seeing this shit just makes me feel like any feedback I submit is getting thrown into an empty void and never reviewed. The only dev interaction I've seen so far has been banning/reprimanding people in the spawn-point and the-finals-chat channels for being toxic, which def should be done but why the hell are we here suggesting updates to a team that doesn't acknowledge any of them.

[rocky verge]

remove resolutions above 480p and remove nonlefthand mice... mouses? mices? idk

[cloud jungle]

This 100%

[cursive plank]

Have damage numbers in training mode to tell the player how much damage they are doing and to help the wiki have more precise information. Have this be a toggle in case people dont want to see it in training

[bold relic]

tagging @wheat fractal since CMs have changed shifts. This channel just seems mostly pointless given that it doesn't seem like any of this is monitored. Frustrating that it feels like there is no way to legitimately get technical issues/concerns submitted to the devs. I've gone through the official website and was just sent to this discord channel that no one on the dev team seems to give af about lol

[crystal cloak]

nerf c4 barrel

[mystic gyro]

I think there should be a way to add people on steam cause there are zero chat systems inside the game besides VC. Or at least let us view their profiles for those using steam so we can add them through it.

[heady pivot]

okay now here me out. remove light and heavy and I think we will have something to work with

[wheat fractal]

we do actually monitor and collect feedback from this channel we just don't want to interfer too much in the feedback as it's not suposed to be a discussion channel
You should also be able to send feedback via our website especially in the case of bugs/technical issues ill check the situation, thank you!

[steep wharf]

#FIX_CONSOLE_RANK

Besides the NA sever, All the console rank is totally broken.

we just want play the rank with fine ping.
it's also bad happen to players of NA server too

I already asked dev team with discord dm, it doesn't help.

why do we have get this situaition?

(ps. Apology about my not adept english)

[summer venture]

literally

[subtle oak]

These points should be addressed in the next update:

• Nuke barrels
  These things are just too strong.

• Recon sense
  Infinite wallhacks in a game where the element of surprise is key to winning fights. Possibly the best ability right now. Enemies should know when they are being spotted. A smaller range could be a good start but that doesn’t solve much. I wouldn’t mind recon being deleted and being replaced with defibrillator.

• Defibrillator chain reviving
  Not an instant revive or a longer cooldown on defibrillator could be nice. Maybe no invulnerability when you get respawned.

I’ve seen some people complain about healing beam but I’m not sure about this. You don’t want to nerf it to the point that it’s going to be useless. Maybe double healing one player shouldn’t work.

[severe geyser]

GAME SUGGESTION - CAREER PROFILE CHANGES & Friends

• Honestly the Career Profile Page is just too plain and bland, especially in terms of showing Stats, and honestly what's the point of it if no one can view your stats. If its about for private matters then the user can just set his/her profile to private.

• More versatility in the statistics and info and add more stats such as (Ranked Wins, Ranked Losses, Ranked Matches, Cashouts stolen, etc. Also to add stats for each class, and for each weapon as well... What's the point of having a "career level" for a certain class/weapon when you can't even view your stats for that specific weapon.

• Add like a "loadout" for profile... Like us having a personal "character" on the view career profile page, with his/her builds, badges, ranks, etc).

• Add seasonal career stats. Like... I know this is Season one but all of it will just be forgotten since there is really no flexibility in these pages... just a bland page that shows stats.

• For friends, would be nice if we can see if our added friends are "in-game", lobby, or what KO round are they?, basically add their status.

• Aside from this game having no sense of written chat, ya'll really should add it for the sake of communicating with other people.

[pallid cliff]

I am glad to finally see people being fed up with nuking barrels they're ridiculous. Also, RPG needs a nerf I've watched people one shot other players from 100+ meters and I've personally been sniped 80+ meters all in one game. Seems a little outrageous to me that an RPG with no interaction and no chance to fight back or evade can just send you straight to spectating. It is not a fun interaction and makes the light class obsolete because teams with more than one heavy can just decimate you. On top of that the RPG also gets a medium down to one shot and other heavies to half HP. To me, the RPG is UTILITY like for making precise holes, dropping cash outs, using it as crowd control. Not a primary weapon that can destroy every class like it is being used for now. Obviously, nuking barrels/ C4 barrels gotta go its worse than the RPG because it can one shot all classes. Two of my biggest frustrations with a game I otherwise thoroughly enjoy playing.

[cedar idol]

Skill issue

[quick coyote]

is anyone else getting really bad ping issues ?

[trim bough]

Can I ask what's the point to not allow players change their ability in the countdown phase?
no matter what reason you got, it's stupid, fix it.

[feral canopy]

Would be great to see people being able to create clans and invite others to it. One thing I remember from the original MW3 was that players could level up their clans and get ingame rewards specific to their clan to show on their profiles etc and ingame. Just on that as well, would be great to also have a clan ranks system where clans could see their overall rankings against other clans

[gritty garnet]

During open beta my laptop runs the game perfectly but upon full release it runs obismally, i have to run the game in window mode 1100 x 780 px to play regularly now :/

[earnest sierra]

yeah that's a big problem actually and why it's happeining no one knows

[bold relic]

I appreciate the response! The chat bot in the website is what linked me here if that's helpful. Also to provide feedback on this channel I'm not sure if intentionally not having many dev responses in the feedback channel is a good move as it just makes users feel like the issues we're reporting here aren't being seen.

[next raptor]

QoL: Add auto-sprint in settings (at least for console/controller)

[rare tendon]

ps5 issue TFLA0002. it had been happen before, but this time not kind of same. it take my time for over 30 minutes with this issue. i was retry it many times and swap my internet, but this issue still happen.

[pure gyro]

Make it so when you get fibbed the pause screen doesn’t pop up

[wheat fractal]

we're always looking into ways to improve how we do things, so feedback of the like is appreciated! we're looking into solutions to better the Discord and the ways channels work, please keep an eye out on future server announcements!

[manic prairie]

I think free cam needs to go away least from ranked.and would love to if that model 1887 reload animation (first bullet thing) would be little faster. i know its kinda my fault but if you start reload wrong time.god dam it take long time to shoot again.also least headshot multiplier should be higher (dont even know what it is but doest feels not that high.also "nuke" is kinda problem even when i like to abuse it...but would be better if like only one gadget stuck to it...saw-off need nerf and tazer 12m is crazy long!!take half of away. and text chat text chat text chat (but option to put it off would be nice too) always forgot say these and when im in game not take long remember.so daily complain done,now i feel much better 😄

[drifting glacier]

LIGHT CLASS IS JUST TRASH FR!!!!

[turbid moss]

Remove/replace these contracts :

1. Eliminate an opponent with quick melee - quick melee low key useless and hard to hit.
2. Hitting opponents with arena carriables - this is just an annoying contract.
3. Eliminate and opponent stealing a cash out - it’s so inconsistent, most players will just let go as soon as they get attacked.

[oblique raven]

is there any reason why auto sprint hasn't been added, holding the sprint button constantly just leaves me with less fingers on the keyboard

[next raptor]

Add choice for report your teamame for griefing

[viscid socket]

I mistakenly chose to unlink my Embark account from the Steam platform.
Now I logged into the game through Steam and found that it has become a new account.
There's nothing left inside, I spent a lot of money on the game.
I am very sad.
How should I recover my game data!@wheat fractal

[unreal crater]

Sometimes when you win, you can't complete the daily quest '' first win of the day '' sometimes it's not counted

[gritty garnet]

oh yeah ik this is been told many times and theres no plans any time soon but the AI commentators feel very a bit off at times, i hope they slowly record and replace them overtime, or atleast refine it

[junior ridge]

dead go boom has ruined my life

[lapis pollen]

dagger dagger dagger, you do know what I'm talking about

[wheat fractal]

please contact our support https://embark-studios.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-the-finals/ > bottom right corner red bubble

[queen harbor]

Get rid of heavy nukes thanks embark

[quick coyote]

Whatever I said last night sorry

[sterile pawn]

Please get rid of the RPG. It’s so irritating.

[viscid socket]

No.
I have tried many times already.
There is no corresponding option above, so I cannot contact them.@wheat fractal

[quick coyote]

Hello everyone, I'm Rony Guerra, a fellow gamer and a passionate data analyst. Currently, The Finals is my favorite first-person shooter game, and I invite you to participate in this survey as it is crucial to understand the impact of aim assist in FPS games. Whether you're pleased with recent changes or have concerns, your insights are valuable.

Your collective feedback in this survey has the potential to contribute to a broader conversation within the gaming community. Your insights may influence discussions and considerations in the development not only of this game but also in other FPS titles. Therefore, I kindly ask for your assistance in completing this quick survey and would greatly appreciate your responses.

I am aiming for a minimum of 100 responses to ensure meaningful results. The more, the better! Your answers will only be used for survey analysis, and I'll share the results right here when it's all done. It's a quick survey and should only take a few minutes to complete.

Your feedback is valuable for my data analysis project, and I'm excited to share the insights with the community.

Access the survey here: https://forms.gle/a9yrvgwDh8hY4DbEA

Thank you for your participation and support!

[wheat fractal]

what do you mean? on the bottom right corner you have a chat you can open to send messages, and to check when the support answers you

[spring crane]

Please release API for the finals.

[cosmic mist]

Please release API for the finals

[viscid socket]

Yes, I sent my question in the bottom right corner.
But no one answered.
And there are no items in the self-service options that I should choose.
So I don't know how to do it.@wheat fractal

[candid cypress]

compositions should be 1 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy, to avoid major balancing problems (exemple: 3 Heavy / 3 Medium + turret / 2 Medium Healer + 1 Heavy etc...).
Not necessarily mandatory for unranked, but at least for ranked (even though I personally don't play ranked at all).

[drowsy sandal]

Can you please make the colors of each team more distinguished in every color blind mode?

[shy blaze]

When are nukes getting nerfed to the ground?

[wheat fractal]

did you do account issue > account deletion > i need to talk to someone?
after that support will answer you but it may take a bit as we have some tickets and we are sunday so a reduced taskforce

[crimson egret]

“I dont play the mode at all but let me tell you how you need to completely restructure the entire experience and cripple any variety.”

[quick coyote]

please fix your game, In Asia every single Ranked tournament has atleast a hard core cheater or a soft cheater which is Lewis Gun Aim Bot or AKM insta beam, or Heavy shotgun infinite ammo. Wall hacks, this is insane, This might be the most infested with cheaters game I've played.

[candid cypress]

We can tell that condescension doesn't kill you.
Team balancing is a problem I frequently encounter in normal games, and it's only in normal games, so imagine a guy playing ranked, the problem must be even bigger.

[distant gulch]

The game causes my PC to shut down unexpectedly. The issue occurs only with this game; sometimes I play without problems, and other times the computer turns off. When I tried playing other games like "The Last of Us" or "Cyberpunk," it worked fine. My computer specifications are Ryzen 5 5700X, 32GB RAM, and RTX 2070 Super. I don't know what to do.

[pine raft]

maybe stop putting silvers and top 6k players in the same lobby, fun to play against them and have silvers on your team

[blazing snow]

Stop people from being able to stick explosives to barrels etc., remove the revive invulnerability, and fix the bugs where the cash clips through the ground and nobody can reach it. We just just a game because neither team could get the objective. For some reason they got the win despite us having more of every score type.

[sour zodiac]

Is embark considering to add a minigun for the heavy category maybe? I could imagine a whole lot of distruction…

[candid shore]

please fix low gpu utilization issue, my 3080 is only getting 100fps\

[jagged ocean]

Imo, more feminine options since feels a lot like theres masculine stuff (dont mean rude or try to start smthing) + more body shapes options for every class would be neat

[granite lava]

We need servers in South Africa. The entire continent of Africa was completely overlooked

[gleaming frost]

Under 20 meters AA is removed completely.

[cedar quartz]

Team respawn should not exist if you dont have a full team

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E A N D R E C O N

[digital snow]

@wheat fractal any chance this could get passed to developers to investigate? There isn't a bug report channel or page that I could find. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/OnmszRGv3e

[wheat fractal]

we have the #bug-discussion or you can also send us a message directly to https://embark-studios.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-the-finals/ > bottom right corner red bubble
but we do have seen this specifc post and reported it to the team thank you!

[drifting glacier]

Better fix this game fast,I cant be playing jittery game with 3080 (is polling lower the better???)

[grim steeple]

Yo make sure your polling rate on your mouse isn't set to 8000.

[glass sonnet]

The state of the cheating in ranked is actually wild. The chances of being in the final and not versing a cheater are pretty much 0 even on OCE now. Everyone knows that easy anticheat is a joke - it's like trying to catch sandflies with a fishing net. People were literally streaming thinking they wouldn't get caught, and when they got exposed they just toned it down and kept going. If it doesn't get addressed the ranked scene is going to be a ghost down full of aim assisters, macro scripters, and flat out aim botters. GL.

[ancient spire]

dont remove nuking completely, just make sure the c4 doesn't stack damage

[jagged jungle]

how about we let nyou take nuking but allow us to be able to throw light users ( like an arena barrel) but only if they are mid-special ability (invis, dashing, grappling)

[pine raft]

fix the matchmaking, cant have silvers and fucking diamonds in the same lobbies

[chrome merlin]

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TURN OF AIM ASSIST ON MEELE ATTACKS ON PC, sry for caps but dagger is already so extremely bad compared to any other weapon and aim assist makes it so much worse, playing dagger with dash the aim assist makes me dash into walls, people i don t want to dash and its really really frustrating

[tranquil skiff]

There needs to be a PENALTY for LEAVING A GAME!!! I’m tired of spawning into games that are 3 seconds from being over/losing.
Additionally, people need to stop leaving because (half of the time) they’re the ones that suck but then they worry about a win:lose ratio and leave… this means they spawn into another game and if they start to lose (they’ll leave after second CashOut, which I’ve had teams where we come back and have won before), they leave and screw over the other players. It’s not fair and they should be penalized for it.

Second: WE NEED A BUG REPORT so we do NOT have to come here each time and wait 24 hours for you to hopefully catch it.

AIM ASSIST FOR MELEE IS DUMB. AIM Assist in general is dumb. If you can’t play then that’s on you to learn that weapon. Do NOT allow aim assist for melee weapons. I dominate with melee, except when in tournament. Aim Assist will NOT help and it will only UNBALANCE the the game MORE.

[digital snow]

Thank You for the info and for looking at the post. I can bet 100 $ that the AA in close range is not working as it was intended to work after the nerf. There's a huge difference in how AA feels at close range and above 20 meters. If it's intended, I have no idea why this wasn't mentioned in the patch notes, because this specific bug/part was the biggest nerf to AA out of all the changes that were mentioned in the notes

[smoky gust]

A mines trigger-radius should not be this much bigger than the mine itself

I see a mine on the floor
I know I have a nuke in my hand, so stepping on it would mean death
I jump onto the railing so I can walk past safely (the 2nd mine is decently far away, so it should be safe)
It explodes and I die anyways, even though I was not close

It makes the game feel unresponsive and results in undeserved deaths

(I am pretty sure that is their normal trigger-radius and not a bug, so I'm posting it here)

Edit:
People seem to miss the point of this post

Yes, I died because I had a nuke
But the same thing would have happened to a light trying to run by

The trigger-radius is a problem

[rotund cloak]

It is becoming really unbearable to play with constant crashes.
You lose kills, cashouts, matches, xp for the pass and more.
One also spends money on it, but this is unbearable.

[queen cloud]

fix your pc

[dawn jolt]

I don't think you should be able to leave but it shouldn't punish you for being put in a ranked game with no team mates when you lose

[tranquil moat]

someone has a fix for error code TFAV1012, game closes itself after every single match

[flint badge]

You have a nuke in your hand -> you should get blown up by the mine regardless

[smoky gust]

@flint badge that's not my point
as I stated, I was aware that I would die should it go off

"I know I have a nuke in my hand, so stepping on it would mean death"

my point is, that it should not have gone off at all, because I should have been too far away

If I misunderstood you and you're instead saying "you're using nukes, so you deserve it", please read the post I replied to with this text
I really do not like nukes, and wish they were either removed or severely nerfed

[summer venture]

i would say deserved (c4 nuke) but its the dev's fault its still a thing so i guess dont hate the player hate the game

[storm inlet]

ranked matchmaking should be changed. There is nothing fair about having to play against top players when you are gold/silver with gold/silver teammates

[lusty grotto]

The matchmaking is bad. It can't be that, being platinum, they put me with people who are bronze. It doesn't make any sense. Please fix the game.

[dawn jolt]

It is also a joke that the game is like "yep you are 2v3v3v3 on this one, good luck"

[flint badge]

I was saying the latter, your point is valid of course

[humble folio]

In the beginning, the game was so much fun for me in a team as well as solo, now it is bearable in a team, but solo simply no longer playable because of the current tank shield nuke meta, because invisible snipers and those who use the sense. I'm asking you to either change a lot of the balance of the individual operators and weapons or small changes and a solo game list without teams. Otherwise, I have no choice but to leave the game, because not always Finding a team is possible for me!

[brittle harness]

There's a cheater prescimver1972 that one taps with the heavy using lmgs... You need to try to fixing the cheater problem because is ridicolus. I also got shot inside the bubble.

[feral canopy]

M60 should have a scope to vary it from the lewis gun, or alternatively, the lewis gun should have a scope, but more recoil

[shadow egret]

20 Bucks for a Skin Bundle is insane. Especially in an FPS where you don´t even see your own s**t. I´ll get an entire game for that kind of money. Guess that´s Nexon for you ...

[green bison]

Butterfly knife skin would go hard

[queen rover]

You know yall can stop playing until they fix whatever issue mm etc. You're unhappy about. You don't have to tolerate it

[thin folio]

yeah we need an infinite knife inspect animation

[round goblet]

New running animation please.🥹

[native portal]

day 16 of asking for rank based matchmaking for season 2

[tawdry mesa]

Please fix the Matchmaking!

[humble folio]

yes PLS!!!

[twilit lily]

That's literally standard pricing these days. You aren't in the early 2000's anymore. Almost ANY game you play, especially modern FPS games, have skins for $20. Not bundles, just a single skin for $20.
Also that's Embark*** for you. They already said Nexon is hands off and just helping them with funding. So while Nexon is cancer, this one is on Embark. But again, it's standard pricing. Apex has mythic rarity skins for $300+. So be happy we aren't there (yet) on here.

[summer chasm]

Thanks for a great game. To bad there is so many problems. Geavy nukes, circle jerking with mediums, you name it. This game has a great potential. But after 200 hours in i can say im getting bopred at all the full medium teams or the heavys with their nukes. So me and my friends are throwing in the towel. Shame it could been a great game

[still coyote]

nerf invis, give them combat cooldown so they cannot use it midcombat

[hoary hull]

Practice range should have bots of different weight classes so I can better tune to how many shots are needed to take down a Heavy

[acoustic storm]

Just remove the stungun. It is only frustrating to go up against. And the sole purpose for it is to be a giant skill equalizer that keeps the light class somewhat viable.

@hoary hull It does have them. Look at the shooting range.

@warm frigate I play on 32:9. I have no problems.

[teal thistle]

as someone who like only plays solo id say its pretty fine, there are builds that are cheap but there are ways to deal with them, this game allows a shit ton of flexibility and creativity so just use that and dont only go into 1v1 stand still and shoot battles

[low depot]

pluh

[severe kayak]

xD

[storm inlet]

that's why i stopped playing ranked lmao

[warm frigate]

why is ultra wide not allow

[bleak vector]

this game is awesome. Ty

[signal cove]

For me it's clearly the mine on the wall that killed you. I would agree that it would be nice having more feedback on the exact radius/range of the mine in their different setups (floor, walls, ceiling, objects)

[wooden iron]

More scar skins

[vocal dagger]

But i got addicted

[smoky gust]

why do you think its clearly the one on the wall?
its further away than the one on the ground

that would be impossible unless the trigger has some weird oval/cylinder shape (which would go back to the radius-feedback thing)

[ancient heron]

day 2 of asking for m&k settings on console

[timid barn]

have something done about the fps?

[queen cloud]

get a better pc. Game runs great for me ~300fps. Prety sure you'll be able to hit 400+fps with next gen cpus and max out those 480hz oleds

[outer rock]

Tbh they should add wall climbing or maybe the ability to grapple to goo or gas Canseter that u can throw that would make grapple so much more fun

[signal cove]

Because Imo it works in a way that it detects mostly stuff above them, especially while on the wall (it wouldn't make sense for them to trigger only if you step on them while on the wall) So yeah I'm guessing some type of short range raycast or small circle triggerbox.

The one on the floor is 100% not it, i've seen myself and other people not trigger mines that were way closer than that.

I actually thought the opposite of you, sometimes mines don't trigger unless I almost willingly step on them

[low depot]

pluh

[humble folio]

There is also sbmm which means not everyone gets equally strong opponents can be good that you find it pleasant with you with me it is too strong and frustrating

[teal thistle]

not really, i have games where i do 4k combat better than everyone else and others where i go 2/8, but this game is made where you can do so much shit just be more creative to get the drop on people

[covert rivet]

Hey! Is there any possiblke chance to make chat to friends or people you just added throw the game?

[dusky night]

facing more cheaters the last few days

[earnest granite]

1.The gaurdian turrent power of the medium class is too overpowered ,it has too much health and does not even get destroyed with a rug or a c4 which are very strong explosives ,in my opinion this can be fixed by reducing the health od the turn or making it shoot slower or making it's dps a bit less

2.I love to play as the heavy class and it is the most fun class to play with ,The weapons that heavy class has have too much recoil and I would love to see a gun that has less recoil like an AR or maybe a smg.THe range of flamethrower should be increased,grenade launcher reload should be decreased by not much but by 0.5 sec maybe ,m60 has too much recoil and can never hit shots ,and maybe increase the dmg or decrease the spread of sa shotgun

3.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .

4.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)

5.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class

6.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

7 The most imp ,it takes abt 15-20 min to join a game of ranked in asian server.

[misty owl]

FIX THE DAGGER! 🙏
Remove the melee auto aim(or make an option to disable it) and fix the hitbox of back

[sinful lance]

1. Oh so it's an arcade shooter so let's just make everything overpowered and insufferable for everyone who actually wants to bring skill and creativity into the game. Got it. Terrible argument.
2. No one mentioned the sonar grenade.
3. Recon senses doesn't encourage Team Play in any way because saying 'you can comms their position to your teammates' -- Guess what -- you can comms your teammates the enemey positions with your 🤡 EYES no one needs Recon Senses to do this it's called being a good player. Pathetic argument
4. If I can't deal with this ability -- lmfao I main medium I have the Medium Rare achievement in my Steam Profile but I doubt you actually bothered to look at my profile or do any actual digging before casting some ad hominem argument
5. Go back to school and learn to make a pointed argument

[lavish shard]

Stungun 😒😒

[smoky gust]

I had a few times where mines were a bit weird
Maybe most were due to the more vertical trigger

But I clearly remember 1 time where there was 1 mine left after a team-fight, I ran over to revive, made sure to walk around it and it exploded anyways

But maybe that's the problem
Like you said:
"sometimes mines don't trigger unless I almost willingly step on them"
Sometimes
They are inconsistent, increasing the amount of confusion/unfair situations

They need to look at the code to make them more consistent and improve their readability

(don't want to wait 15 minutes)
True
But its still a valid display of the problems the mines can cause in their current state

(Thank you for clearing that up though)

[thick scroll]

Some news about M/K on console ?

[signal cove]

Well I agree, might also be a netcode issue or depend on class since hitboxes are different, I just meant to say that in your video, the one suspect in that situation is not the one on the floor, so it doesn't really represent the inconsistency you want to point out

[crystal storm]

I find there is significantly more often that you sprint rather than slow walk, so it would be really great with an option to invert the sprinting behaviour so the button instead makes you slow walk.

[humble folio]

I don't think that the chat here is for discussion, but for feedback and since I can currently only play solo in terms of time, it would be nicer not to always play solo against fully played teams, my experience is in this game that it is otherwise no fun if your experience is different is nice for you but think of sbmm etc and the depletion of each is different.

[red ermine]

Recon is gonna kill this game

[cloud jungle]

Recon makes any strategy that isn't "push mindlessly into a 3v3, who aims better wins" pointless.

It needs a complete rework or removed and replaced.

[buoyant fulcrum]

Sonar was nerfed in latest patch but yes recon should be reworked maybe a better version of sonar grenade

[zealous mural]

i just did a STUPID quick melee quest. a win quest, an open vault quest, and the throwable quiest. are your FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME DIDNT REGISTERED IT. FUCK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEARTH. first you give me a fucking VEGETABLES instead of teammates agains the stack of 3 playing like their life depends on it. JUST FUCK THIS GAME AND FUCK YOUR GARBAGE QUEST SYSTEM

[queen cloud]

I hope don't they don't hard nerf. But for sure it needs some adjustment

[teal thistle]

i think they should buff it, just give them constant wall hacks

[dense dagger]

IN RANKED MODE I think that the selection of classes must be restricted to (1 Heavy, 1 Medium, 1 Light) necessarily.
3 medium (triple recon/heals/defib) or 3 heavy (triple RPG/C4) for example is too strong and unbalanced, as a Light these 2 comps are extremely hard to play against. Then with this restricted system people will have to choose between either heal with no wall hack or wall hack but no heals for example.

[red ermine]

I like how you can run any meta character. I just miss being able disengage fights. These teams now chase and chase and chase. Even as a light I can’t leave these fights sometimes but shi I guess I’m just terrible

[covert moat]

I like being able to have multiple classes on one team. Plus, it would really slow down matchmaking trying to pair you with only those strict class types.

[untold haven]

if you wanted to restrict picks (which i think wouldn’t be great) it would be better to do it by specialization instead of class, that way you could have multiple mediums but only 1 healer 1 recon and 1 turret

[turbid moss]

The shotgun for the light is so inconsistent with the damage, fix please?

[flint badge]

thats a pretty good idea actually

[barren iris]

this is one of the most unfun games ive ever played when it comes to solo q

[stark spire]

Can we make that mines and C4 no longer stick to explosive Barrells etc? Like its destroying the experience

Plus, i just had a game with a team, 3 shields, 3 turrets and 3 trophy systems in a ranked match

[gritty garnet]

not really game itself but i do think this server could use some VCs for LFG, i dont think its worth the hassle to add discord and create a group chat everytime im doing a lfg sessions

[sonic flare]

It’s supposed to be that way they nerfed it and they’ll probably nerf it more

[zealous walrus]

Just say you're broke.

[modern wedge]

the game is awesome but i cant play if it keeps buttfucking me bro pls fix the crashes

[turbid moss]

Damn really? Now it’s going to be hard to be like Doom Guy. But like it’s crazy how inconsistent it is, I shot a guy right I front of me and it did almost 50 damage but when a shot a guy that was kinda far away it did really good damage, sometimes it feels like the shots doesn’t register

[dense dagger]

It does not stop 3 defib mediums spamming each other or 3 heavies spamming Nukes (C4) and RPG when we know only 1 Nuke can wipe a whole team.
Idc for casual modes but I think for a competitive mode we need balance. Light is barely play in Diamond comp because it's too fragile compare to the other classes.
Having only 1 Heavy, 1 Medium, 1 Light in a team will help with that balacing.

[untold haven]

well i also think defib should be a specialization instead of a gadget and c4 should be reduced to one charge, you can balance around this im just saying keeping some degree of player expression would be more beneficial

[last saddle]

There needs to be an "Avoid Player" button that doesn't require a report to block.

[lavish shard]

Recon -> sonar +
Cloak -> one time no spam
Healing beam -> healing station
Stungun nerf
Nuke nerf
Defib nerf

[teal thistle]

we should have a setting to pick how many loadouts we can have or just have it be as many as we make

[dusk forum]

Just make it so you can't attach c4 and mines to throwable objects, c4 and mines are still strong as defensive tools on buildings, they have no need to be throwing bombs

[fervent magnet]

Need kbm settings on console

[stark spire]

there is no way that you can prepare for that crap in a ranked match, you COULD counter them with firethrowing but you dont have that shit on you normally, plus in ranked you cant change equipment

[shut glen]

I am wondering if in quick cash it can be more balanced with who you play against. I’m new to the game and enjoy it but I play solo and often get paired with people who shoot at the wall and then I’m up against a team that clearly is all together and I can’t stay alive for more than 3 seconds. I am not good enough to play ranked but would like to be able to play and have the chance to get better.

[last saddle]

It's pretty known matchmaking is atrocious. Far too many people are fighting over a single brain cell.

[pastel bay]

Is it true ranked dosent match people by rank? Ive seen videos of people in bronze / silver going against plat / high diamond. Personally I find extremely higher-skilled players in ranked than unranked.

[ancient heron]

i agree that they should be taken out of tournaments and ranked tournaments, but not from the casual game modes

[manic aspen]

pls pls pls add custom match
also
pls fix this glitch

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[arctic acorn]

Yes. It's true. The game uses an "MMR" System to matchmake. That MMR system is also broken though. There is effectively no matchmaking in ranked at all because of how broken the system is

[shrewd vine]

I find the solo experience in ranked to be miserable. Since there is no separation between queues, and rampant cheats still frankly run wild (not referring to rewasd or 'maybe' cheaters, I mean the Chinese accounts that full sprint with 100% accuracy mowing down my team), you end up in games as a solo with no communication vs full groups running comms and wallhacks. The lacked of ranked matchmaking means you usually get placed in matches where you are either vastly too good for the lobby, or getting dumpstered. When I play with my friends, its night and day - consistent match wins, no frustrating teammates etc. In quickplay these issues are lessened I find because people are more concerned with fun rather than running 1 shot meta builds and so on, which leads to a superior solo experience there which seems counterintuitive considering you'd think that experience would be in ranked due to the allegedly better players on your team. Finals, especially ranked, is not whatsoever conducive to a fun solo experience. Its legitimately the worst solo experience game I've ever played, and yet one of the best multiplayer experiences.

[quick coyote]

Anything going to be done about the c4 Nuke spam in ranked? This is not something that needs to be in an fps

[sudden karma]

i got 120,000 fame points. ive got in matches where the otherfinal team were on there second ranked match

[hazy halo]

LFG Gold rank

[cerulean dust]

I know this will be drowned out. However, it would be nice if throwing knives could have a tighter range of variance when primary firing whilst airborne.

[indigo ledge]

remove the possibility of c4 on a props...

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for a bow to be added to the game https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1195770101241229402/bernie-sanders-i-am-once-again-asking.png?ex=65b532b0&is=65a2bdb0&hm=807a1bb9e1959d5450aba1df4894d20ced4c4f482908a4e00c32d5801e410705&

[silent hornet]

Cash out timer should pause when stealing.

Or at the very least it should continue but not cash out until the player is done interacting with it

[exotic wave]

Agreed, at the moment it feels pointless to even fight over cash out stations with less than 5 seconds left.

[hallow abyss]

me and the Ultra Rares light both holding down a box at full capture waiting for the other to lety go first

[wary jetty]

holyyy someone bought a one way ticket to yap city over here 😭

[sharp acorn]

@quick coyote Hi there, I have an issue with my pyro granade where 2 skins are "equipped" (in this instance it's my OSPUZE PYRO PINT OB REWARD) and a mastery skin. I can equip any skin I want except my OB skin as it's "already equipped" what do I do?

[frigid spoke]

They need to ask r u sure when making purchases cuz i was saving up for a bundle and i accidently held down the a button when in the battlepass and i just spent 150 coins on something i never wanted

[quick coyote]

Delete your contestant and remake them.

[brittle gust]

This happened to me 2 crazy

[sudden spire]

There's no way to communicate with a party of randoms if i don't have a mic

[sinful lance]

Cool a non-argument. You could have just said 'you're right' from the beginning if you weren't going to posit anything useful

[obsidian solar]

Can melee tracking be improved? A lot of times i can't hit people literally in front of me, the lunge doesn't start and the hit doesn't land, i just swing at the air
Edit: I gotta show you some clips they're hilarious @gleaming frost

[gleaming frost]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-future-revolution-marvel-future-fight-netmarble-king-tron-king-tron3099-gif-25842037

[cunning cedar]

would be cool if we could buy individual skins of a bundle separately, without having to buy the whole bundle just for one weapon skin for example

[bitter veldt]

Perhaps a way to customize the weapons further, like weapon mods such as changing the color of the scope of the fcar, different types of ammo with different damage and stuff, or like being able to modify the barrel of the flamethrower or projectiles behavior of the grenade launchers. So basicly all in all more variety? Do tell me if this is a horrible idea.

[pearl mica]

So, why am I as a Gold 4, getting first round matches against the No.12 player in the ENTIRE game?

Is there any matchmaking in ranked or what is going on?!

[cedar quartz]

matchmaking is ass

[autumn widget]

The matchmaking for quick play needs to be loosen because often i feel like im in a sweatfest rather having fun compared to on launch

Rank should have rank division instead of sbmm because if you look at all the rank complains......... yea............

@cloud jungle by the point my mmr adjusted i dont think imma be playing the game much if its like that and if i accidentally do too well in a match or my team does well, i'll have to go through getting games where i get smashed into the ground again

[cloud jungle]

Just don't sweat and your mmr will adjust accordingly. Once I realized that I've had a lot more relaxed games.

[strong vessel]

i dont think riot shield needs big changes, but i would prefer if the shield would partially block during interactions (like it used to)

[thorn elbow]

remove recon
remove nukes
increase defib cooldown and/or make it an ability not a gadget
increase cloaking cooldown (since recon is gone it needs a rework)
decrease SH1900 headhot dmg from 360 to 300
slighty increase RPG AOE radius but with damage downscale based on the distance from impact point
Make gas go away faster (no matter the source)

[velvet hatch]

Buff light sniper

[sonic flare]

I wouldn’t say remove recon but definitely nerf it

[bitter veldt]

defib is fine the way it is, it respawns people at half hp and that means they are ez targets/team wipes if you actually work with your own team.

[split viper]

Add the options to really costimize crosshair (per weapon, look, like in csgo / overwatch)

[earnest granite]

1.The gaurdian turrent power of the medium class is too overpowered ,it has too much health and does not even get destroyed with a rug or a c4 which are very strong explosives ,in my opinion this can be fixed by reducing the health od the turn or making it shoot slower or making it's dps a bit less

2.I love to play as the heavy class and it is the most fun class to play with ,The weapons that heavy class has have too much recoil and I would love to see a gun that has less recoil like an AR or maybe a smg.THe range of flamethrower should be increased,grenade launcher reload should be decreased by not much but by 0.5 sec maybe ,m60 has too much recoil and can never hit shots ,and maybe increase the dmg or decrease the spread of sa shotgun

3.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .

4.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)

5.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class

6.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

7 The most imp ,it takes abt 15-20 min to join a game of ranked in asian server.

[winter ledge]

Vrs to multibucks lmao
Events with free multibucks then

[honest surge]

Hello, I wanted to give back some feedback regarding the aim feel on controller (at least for console). I want to specify this is about the aim sensitivity feel and not aim assist. The feeling seems unresponsive and kind of "heavy" and after doing some testing I realised that 0 deadzone is not actually 0. When I play with a 0 deadzone on other games such as Apex I get noticeable stick drift, however when the deadzone is set to 0 in the finals I do not get any stick drift which suggested that it isn't, in fact, 0. Moreover, the linesr response curve is also not trully linear which makes the above probpem worse.

I believe that fixing the above two problems (especially the deadzone issue) can provide better raw input from controller without relying as much on aim assist.

[terse slate]

I demand full transparency regarding skill based match making. I want to see full numbers regarding my MMR. I am being matched in 8 out of 10 games against player that I have zero chance against. I am talking 1v1 here not teams.

[orchid raptor]

"I demand" lmfao

[uneven nova]

Looks like your mmr is too high, and you're getting put in lobbies you can not compete in then.

[dreamy latch]

Wish there was a gadget that gave the medium or heavy a small amount of extra mobility so that you can have a chance at killing people that know how to walk backwards when using a melee weapon

[white turtle]

Some people genuinely have this problem (albeit not me), you can end up having a mismatched mmr to your rank. So whoever put these stupid reactions on here can piss off back to bronze four lobbies.

[crisp oxide]

Please don’t take nukes out of the game they’re currently essential.

[granite topaz]

Well maybe cuz it's not a 1vs1 game?

[uneven prism]

yeah if they want to take them out nerf the katana (irritating weapons and hard counters for heavy) and buff the recharge time for RPG

[sweet palm]

Bro this game be making me cue into ranked without teammates then taking away 80 points when I got 2 2v3 all game

[raven folio]

Me to my bro " yo how do I counter the katana as a heavy without a hammer or charge?"
my bro, causually "you dont"
me "okie dokie"

[junior arrow]

Buff the nuke and limit the range on the recond

[sonic flare]

To the people who said they’re not getting extra vr point you’re not gonna get extra points if you don’t play objective, or be supporting. Just look at the points on the scoreboard to determine how you’re playing.

2. Heavy guns are fine, and omfg if I hear one more complaint about a rocket propelled grenade launcher It’s an RPG dawg shit blows up tanks
   Medium needs recon nerf without a doubt.
   M11 slight decrease to rate of fire dmg is fine.
   Revolver needs a hipfire buff imo like nobody uses that gun so why even add it is beyond me.

Lastly allow stun guns to disable certain gadgets so people can stop complaining about getting consistently shocked.

This is just my hot take take it how you want.

[crisp oxide]

I just don’t want them taking out the nuke cuz so many cry babies that don’t understand how the game works. Also need to put in some kind of matchmaking for ranked. Diamonds shouldn’t be up against bronze there should be more balance…even if it makes Que times longer people will be happier.

[deft river]

lag spikes since last update
https://streamable.com/wf3vag

[ashen canyon]

Nuke 1 shots heavies

[bitter veldt]

they should add buffs to players who are missing teamates, like turn them into some sort of raid boss with like 3x hp and 5x ammo, like being in a game with no teamates at all.

[strange cliff]

I can use my MnK on my Xbox but I can’t switch my keybinds >.< only try to use my MnK because my controller is a little old and has some issues sadly

[grand mural]

They gotta add the ability to cook grenades and give them some environmental damage

[quick coyote]

FREE CHEAT REWASD STILL WORKS, BAN REWASD!!!!!!!

[half wind]

they should add more game events like a headshots only for 1-2 mins type of event or something

[quick coyote]

I don't like you but I agree with you, so now you get an ego boost and know you're extra right.

[crisp oxide]

The skill it takes to 1 shot an entire team and the chance it takes to get into that perfect spot…it can also be blocked with Shields…you can also counter it by simply shooting the nuke he’s holding. In order for it to be one shot it has to be literally right on top of the player. All things are very difficult to pull off. I’m a very very good plat nuke player and I think I’ve only ever wiped an entire team a few times. And it was when they werenot at max health. Just because you die to something one shot doesn’t make it over powered. I die to invisible lights with stun and xp/shotty/katana and never have a chance. I die to an fcar long range beamed with headshots. All things take skill and can in a good situation give me almost 0 ability to do anything about it…it’s part of the game and the game currently in a good state balance wise. Considering how hard it is for most games to achieve balance. ——please add cooler rewards for ranked than just stupid stickers and a off meta skin for diamond that most people won’t ever get. Something simple a gun skin a cosmetic item. Anything but a useless sticker nobody can see….

[solemn vector]

Optimize the game pls

[south gale]

So they are fixing the loss forgiveness when they load you into a match missing a teammate right? Lol cause that ish is wild

[lavish shard]

Recon sense-> sonar like the grenade but mobile 15-20m range

[quick coyote]

is there a fix for TFLA0002 which ISNT deleting my embark id and losing my purchases?

[sinful lance]

Listen, in the real world, if you do not speak up for yourself, ignorant people with ill intentions who speak louder than you, who have less to lose than you, will take away any and all sense of dignity from you and they will just assume you are OK with it. Sometimes you have to put your foot down against things that are wrong and sometimes it takes sounding rude or offending people, because guess what -- the people trying to gain an advantage of you are easily worse and just as dishonest. Recon Sense does not belong in FPS games as it undermines other players who actually utilize real genuine positional game sense that often takes years to develop, all Recon Sense and any wallhack ability in any game does is remove all of that with the push of a button. It is FUNDAMNETALLY wrong with introducing it to the genre.

[blissful bridge]

The problem is that you are trying to change a game other people enjoy. If you don't like the gameplay, please go find another game you actually enjoy.

[dreamy latch]

The flamethrower was very frustrating to play against (and imo on the verge of being broken) during the open beta, and while I don't think it should return to that state I think it could greatly benefit from:

• slightly wider hitbox
• faster tick rate (with damage adjusted proportionately to keep the same dps)
• more consistent burn effect (the DOT is extremely finicky to proc, I think it may have something to do with its refresh rate)
• basically just ease of use changes and maybe slightly better DOT
  Going back to the open beta, I remember using the flamethrower as a reliable way to shut down annoying light strats like invis, melee weapons and stun guns. Currently strategies like these are the source of a lot of tilt to people who can't reliably counter them. If the flamethrower could be made a little stronger I think it would give lower to mid skill brackets a way to easily counter annoying strategies without it being too annoying/common to play against itself
  For the record, I don't want to stomp all lights into the ground and am of the opinion that they are relatively weak right now. Please consider this feedback in a vacuum, and understand that I would not want a heavy to have this alongside 2 gadgets that already have easy 1 shot potential.

[lavish shard]

Your right both but the finals is cloak recon rpg ect... if you dont like stop playing but recon sense need a rework in sonar like a nade

[wanton bramble]

bronze 1 shouldnt get matched with gold 4's

[lusty lark]

this game causes constant USB disconnected for myself and others

[sinful lance]

The problem is that you are trying to change a game other people enjoy That's the whole problem. People DON'T enjoy getting chased around the map by M class with Recon Sense on. And I love the game alot otherwise I wouldn't be here trying to make a big deal of it. It is an extremely contentious subject, a simple search of recon sense in the channel will quickly tell you that there are alot of people in here complaining about it, Medium players included. It's very clearly an issue that's plaguing the game. I suggest you get a reality check. Also telling people please go find another game you actually enjoy is just so extremely bad faith. Please don't ever say things like this.

[lapis island]

Found the Recon Sense meta slave that lacks any sort of game sense. Get a grip bro, it needs a rework desperately. There is no counter play to someone turning on an ability for one second and gaining game sense only players who worship the meta can get.

People want to have fun and not have to abuse meta to have that fun of winning and fragging out. I've used Recon Sense quite a bit and it is really OP in the right hands. I easily frag out (20+ kills) when I run it on most maps (some maps are way too bright for it to be optimal). Get off your high horse and stop proclaiming your opinion as fact and the correct opinion.

[humble tinsel]

I won't interject on the rest of this debate but it's upsetting seeing people use the "go play another game if you don't like 'x' about this one" motif. People are allowed to dislike aspects of a game while loving it as a whole and for a plethora of other reasons, are allowed to want to play it in a state they find agreeable. Any shooter or competitive game is gonna have things people don't vibe with and telling them to play something else when they're offering their critique on what, for them, is making the game less fun/enjoyable to play does nothing but promote a toxic community filled individuals unwilling to have productive discourse on what balance should look like as well as dwindle the player base of a game that both sides of that statement clearly want to play and want to see succeed long term. This game is gonna be hard to balance for everyone and i'm sure it'll go through a lot of metas in it's time as long as there's a community of people excited to play it. In a chat server called "launch feedback" we should be able to disagree with one another in the search for common ground without the paradigm of gatekeeping it behind our own, personal, beliefs on how the game should be balanced.

[zealous walrus]

I agree that recon sense is a bit broken. I don't have a suggestion on how to improve it or fix it at the moment but I do recognize it's a bit of a broken ability. Along with nukes. Nukes are quite strong. Noone likes being one shot or their entire team getting one shot, or damn near. It makes this weird playstyle of playing away from your team so you all don't get blown to smithereens. I don't want to be punished for playing with my team.

[granite topaz]

FIX THE FKING SNIPER SCOPE THX.

[forest vigil]

so i keep getting error code TFLA002 and ive down everything from reinstalling the game, verifying the game files, checking internet connection, gone to the embark website and linked my steam, and cleared my dns resolver cache and still wont work :/

[gloomy wraith]

Make ranked harder shit too easy

[fading yoke]

I hate how there's basically only 3 viable playstyles now. Cloak+shotty for light, recon senses + defib for meds and double shields for heavies and everybody just nuke spams. It's very, very stale

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E A N D R E C O N A S A P

[manic aspen]

both my cpu and gpu sit at 70 celcius and only 60% usage and i still get only like 80 fps on average
6800h and rtx 3060 laptop, how do i increase my usage to increase fps?

[iron widget]

I think in terms of recon sense, just a consistent nerf/change on usage that gives it the ability to be countered or at least managed by other people would be more beneficial than the idea of fully removing it as an ability. Obviously I am not a game dev or wont claim to be but I think the big issue with it is just that you can't do much to counter it once it starts happening, you are just being stalked by someone with wallhacks and can't even know until you're killed in your hiding spot 4 buildings away from a fight. IMO even something as simple as just saying you're detected when someone spots you with recon sense could be a useful and impacting change, at least then you can be alert that someone knows where you are and can be more prepared.

[blissful bridge]

I'm going to link to your other post, because you want to talk about the "real world".

The truth is you are the kind of person who thinks they know what a "FPS" game should be and so you share your limited view and say "recon senses" shouldn't be "introduced to this genre".

What genre?
Is this Doom?
Halo?
CoD?
Quake?
Tarkov?

Welcome to the real world, where an FPS game can take many forms and doesn't conform to what you think it should be.

This is a FPS that is trying to deliver something different than other titles.

You play a certain style of FPS and enjoy it, and I enjoy this style.

You are that "CoD kid" that jumps into a new game and gets mad it doesn't play like CoD.

So you complain about certain gameplay mechanics and try to have it changed drastically.

Facts.

You enjoy a certain style of FPS. Quit trying to change what we enjoy.

YOU have a problem with recon senses, but I don't and neither do my friends.

We have an absolute blast playing this game.

You said "Sometimes you have to put your foot down against things that are wrong and sometimes it takes sounding rude or offending people, "

Wake up bro. Stop.

You like a certain gameplay style and we like another. This game isn't trying to be like whatever game it is that you enjoy.

I trust Embark is smart enough to ignore most opinions that call for drastic changes, and that they stay faithful to the vision of gameplay they are trying to craft.

[opal leaf]

Exactly this , game start to be very boring actually, people having a wallhack so they know you are here before you and your mate even started to set up something, Heavys that use nukes only and kill 1 or 2 of your team by pushing two buttons, I play medium heal with the APS and while the APS is very effective, it's not enough to counter nukes so if next week devs only buff the radius of APS to counter nukes I will simply stop palying the game.
2 medium - 1 heavy or 1 medium - 2 heavy is now every teams on ranked , light has been completely exterminated by this non-sense noob friendly meta

[sinful lance]

Not gonna respond cause you've literally done nothing to further the conversation about how Recon Sense isn't balanced. No one agrees with you dude. Condolences to you and your imaginary friends.

[past flower]

I looked on google for solutions but nothing worked so I figured to join here... I keep getting "kicked from server the finals tfge0002" and "system integrity check failed" or whatever. but my AV hasn't flagged anything, I'm not using hacks, my wifi is perfectly fine, etc. How do I fix this!!??

[pure gyro]

Closing and reopening the game fixes it for me

[autumn widget]

Recon senses should work like cypher ult in valorant so people can't easily pre aim or guess where enemies are coming from but still have a idea and if it got turned into this Recon senses should get charges like dash

Healing beam should over heat faster or have different healing speeds for each class, cant stack

i think the light needs a hp buff so they can't get one shotted by the rpg, and have a chance to run away

[next rain]

NERF THE CLOAK JESUS CHRIST

[boreal wagon]

yeah im noticing more and more but hit reg is just not good

[willow sand]

a small quality of life change for renaming classes so if u have 3 setups for medium you can rename them 🙂

[twilit lily]

Just open your eyes. Or ears. Either one works. Cloak isn't even remotely annoying in comparison to a ton of other stuff. Example: Nukes. Also, learn to position better. If your constantly being caught out by cloak users, then you are almost always likely in the dumbest spot ever. Because when they MOVE, you can see them still, only when they sit still they go FULLY invis. But the only place they can utilize full invis to any decent degree is when camping the cashout. But you can counter that with a million other gadgets.
There is a huge reason most LFG's especially competitive players don't take lights on their team. They CAN be used, but in terms of team utility they are bottom tier easily. You can definitely make them work, but that doesn't mean the other 2 aren't infinitely better options competitively.

[slim fog]

i think turrets need a small nerf as they are really hard to get rid of they have more health then a light and the same damage as a medium

[fading yoke]

Remove godmode from defib or make people res with 1 hp if you keep godmode. People are almost always almost full hp before the godmode ends right now. Maybe make defib a spez and healing beam a gadget if both have to keep their current power levels. Res is extremely OP in current state. Recon sense range is stupidly OP, you can't EVER juke anyone in ranked anymore because everyone is running at least one with recon senses. I used to be able to make grappling hook + sniper build on lights work and hook to res a teammate, but now it just never works because people wallhack and jumppad/zipline to where you are. Nuke dmg or dmg range needs to be decreased, this is just cheese every match. Game has went from fun and varied to just cheese and abusing OP abilities.

[river lantern]

I think more gamemodes added, including one based around surviving the natural disasters in the game on a map filled with destructable environments could be fun.

[slender hare]

make a separate gamemode without the active shit like low gravity and dead go boom please

[humble tinsel]

Honestly find most of them a fun shake up to the games but a seperate gamemode w/o them is understandable! Dead go boom just feels horrible tho and i think should be removed. Feels bad to wipe an enemy team just to die or team wipe yourselves from them exploding. We should be rewarded or at least given the opportunity to regroup/recover/divert attention elsewhere after outplaying a team/winning an engagment

[quick coyote]

use aps they said, it works they said. remove this shit asap ffs

[past flower]

custom gamemodes please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blissful bridge]

Embark.

Thank you for making an extremely fun game.

The gameplay is fast, fun, epic, destructive, chaotic and creative.

I think the equipment is powerful but able to be countered.

I trust that the Embark team will balance the game in a way that stays true to the vision of gameplay that they are trying to craft.

I'm staying sunny side up and looking forward to the future of this amazing game!

[lime isle]

This game is refreshing and fun but the matchmaking in ranked makes absolutelly no sense when our silver team gets matched against top50 player team, It is an absolute joke and sadly am going to uninstall until the ranking system makes any sense!

FYI unranked has the exact same matchmaking
(which is none)

[slim fog]

just like dont play ranked

[rocky verge]

You’re uninstalling the whole game… because of one optional mode…

[undone saffron]

Seems more like a skill issue than a game issue. Just queue casual.

[distant sable]

It literally is a game issue

[next rain]

Peak suggestion

[smoky gust]

"Just open your eyes. Or ears"
This only works once they are decently close, you're already being shot by then, leaving it pointless most of the time
You can see them outside of it, but that requires significantly more effort
And since the light could show up at any time you need to be on your toes the whole game, just in case they might stroll by

"Cloak isn't even remotely annoying in comparison to a ton of other stuff"
Id rather have nothing be annoying to be honest
If we say: "x is annoying, so y can be annoying too" then we just end up with a giant back and forth of frustration

"then you are almost always likely in the dumbest spot ever"
sadly we cant just sit in the attic of a house all game and wait for the lights to come to us
we need to grab cashboxes, assault a cashout etc.
otherwise we just loose
and there are no routes we can take that a light (who is also faster than us) cant also take

"the only place they can utilize full invis"
they don't need full invis
being harder to spot is already a huge difference in fast paced situations and can make detection almost impossible if you're not specifically looking for them at all times

"There is a huge reason most LFG's especially competitive players don't take lights on their team. They CAN be used, but in terms of team utility they are bottom tier easily. You can definitely make them work, but that doesn't mean the other 2 aren't infinitely better options competitively."
This is more of a reason to buff light itself

Id rather have light be viable by itself, rather than being forced to run 1-2 specific items at all times