👂┇game-feedback

[quick coyote]

PC Players at it again.

[tight kettle]

DEAR GOD!

[daring fossil]

lego LH1 skin can come out in the store any day now 🙂

Also please vary the dalies more, I'm getting really tired of the same dailies over and over forcing me to play builds/loadouts Im at a disadvantage with. I don't mind the recon nade one every once in a while, but literally 3 days in a row, and today 3 of 5 dailies are the same as yesterdays. We need more than 12 dailies, I feel like there were way more in beta.

[icy parcel]

Game is still absolute garbage. Imagine that.

[fresh shell]

One of the ziplines in skyway has a fence before it that when sprint-jumping into the zip causes you to drop immediately

[shrewd geyser]

nah 7x pred my man. I used to play skrims under a different name. And nah 3 of them were solo Q. why u mad g i was just sayin. but yeah

[grave kettle]

Will the game ever have a mobile port

[quick coyote]

@quick coyote You mean China's players?

Glare should not be this OP...

[tall willow]

Game is broken due to cheaters and the shit devs haven't said a thing. So dissappointing.

[quick coyote]

everybody does have AA just plug in a controller dude lol. that's basically what they're gonna tell us. its a joke. sad days for PC gaming

[vivid saffron]

The cringe barrel game play loop is awful. Some matches are just 8 heavies doing nothing else.

[tranquil skiff]

Please fix the bugs with Contracts. I have killed 2 people and used gas tanks to not only damage but kill 1 more person and damage even more.

However, the damage count for the Carried Away Contract has remained the same for me. It’s quite frustrating when our biggest source of XP does NOT work 100% of the time.

With that said, add a Bug Report already…

[kindred nest]

Can we please get a new startup screen the red is such a sore on the eyes

[quick coyote]

Wrong chat

[grave kettle]

They should add the finals to Xbox cloud gaming

[rocky verge]

yes

[hollow shoal]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1182969786293039114

[rustic sandal]

After using a spray there is a bug where you can't activate recon senses for a good 15-20 sec (it's almost as if you're stuck in an emote or something) as well as the can't fire weapon/use any gadgets and only way to fix is to die and get revived again. Believe it does happen if you die while reloading possibly and then you are revived but have also had other circunstances.

[viral fern]

Yo graphics are too good man, lower them 😛

[mossy rain]

maybe you like christmas trees?

[split vessel]

Amazing first start to the game! I really enjoy playing and it thinks its a great revive to the gaming community. But i think that the Medium Specializtation Turret needs to be nerf. It does too much damage with too much health, combine with the fact its an aimbot turret its really op. I was playing quick cash where I ran into an all medium team using turrets to camp the cashout station. I think nerf the health or damage will really help balance the game. Good job with the game devs and continue the good work!

[pure gyro]

Blow up the building with the throwable explosion tank before going in. You can also throw goo grenades at them to block em

[gilded ivy]

I love how people come to complain they dont know how to stratergize in the feedback channel, im sorry you don't know how to be tactical

[violet delta]

y0, just started a solo ranked game with one less player in my team the other guy left after a minute as well
now i lost the first round (idk why though!) but i m not allowed to leave the game (penatly warning) i m watching the "waiting for other groups to finish" screen? am i a filler in case someone else DCs or what's going on there?

[rocky verge]

Pomegranate

[quick coyote]

Yummy

[pure gyro]

Get a real insurance company to sponsor the game

[heavy elk]

Love the game <3
Game suggestion
Nerf Turret
Turret Destroy when owner dies
When turret spawns have reduced health (then regen)
Nerf Defibrillator
No more ‘I frames’ please, feels bad when bullets don't connect
ADD EMP CANISTERS

Thank you

[quick coyote]

Today update?????

[distant moth]

Giv us a larger shooting range
and give option for reset it bc it was destructed 🫠

[left gull]

Ok does anyone actually know how to fix this? I can’t stand it and don’t know how to make it stop

[violet blade]

Seems like matchmaking is just completely random. Rank doesnt' seem to be taken into account at all

[quick coyote]

its carebear version of ranked

[pallid cliff]

Some NEEDED FIXES first off rocket launcher is busted and makes it unfun as literally any class ex. Light insta die Medium: quarter HP then one shot or two shot if lucky Heavy: Half HP with a giant AOE. Then throwables with C4 makes it unplayable it can one shot every class and isn't fun with the amount of throwables in map as well as how C4 regens so fast. Lastly, mines are not fun when u walk in a room and its littered with mines theres nothing u can do especially if its a team with just mines because they blow up and gas the point under so you cant even do anything against that. PLEASE CHANGE THIS GAME IS NEARLY UNPLAYABLE AS IS.

[gentle zealot]

missing_angelscript_callstack crash is driving me insane

[quick coyote]

That's not aim assist/rewasd, that's just blatant aim botting lmao

[sacred mirage]

• rocket is tough sometimes but map awareness goes a long way
• I feel eh about the throwables with c4, it feels bad to die to them but it's often because I'm out of position or someone is behind me. Sometimes you can shoot them while they're being held
• don't blindly walk into rooms with objectives or that you saw multiple people go in to
• fire counters gas

If you want to feel better just play heavy and delete some lights with the rocket

[quick coyote]

heavies have way too much fuckiing hp

[spring locust]

Is there any reason why Consoles don’t have rain screen effects. Like the water drops on the screen? Would love that on ps5

[dusty grotto]

Best online game ever.

[vast crest]

We getting some sort of an ETA on the next patch?

[spare plinth]

love it

[tribal plank]

just went against a 2heavy 1 med where both the heavies equipped grenade launchers and it was the stupidest thing ive ever experienced in my life

[blissful kettle]

So I’m on ps5 and my mic all of a sudden won’t work, no it’s not broken and yes I’m connected the the voice chat with voice chat enabled does anyone know how to fix this

[left juniper]

WHY AM I QUEUING WITH T500 AS A GOLD ?????????

[quick coyote]

bro if your matchmaking is putting silver with unranked, up against a premade gold, your matchmaking is inept and whoever greenlighted should be fired and fucking homeless. its so obviously winrate controlled and nothing but a bullshit grind. why can't we just have a legit game anymore. these greedy ass braindead companies man. just gets worse and worse and worse and worse. i'd be willing to bet the vast majority of players are stuck at basically a 1/3rd winrate overall. that's not natural lol

[little kite]

Why is voice chat opt in by default, especially in ranked. Shouldnt that be the one place its opt out by default?

[solid halo]

Defib should be a specialization. the output value of that gadget is beyond anything else in the game

[severe storm]

Does anyone know why my mic doesn’t work? I joined the voice chat and my push to talk key is bound but it just doesn’t work

[hidden moss]

All of your ranked matchmaking concerns is because of the implementation of EOMM. Research it. It’s predatory. Will not play the game anymore until this is removed

[frank cliff]

please find a way to combat the cheaters 🥺

[flint falcon]

Finals needs a custom game mode asap I wanna take a shit on my friends

[noble carbon]

please

[quick coyote]

There should be a solo mode imo would make more people interested

[worn halo]

This game is so fun, I just wish that when you throw poison gas stud at fire it would make a huge explosion

[drifting ginkgo]

is this where I can rant about cheaters?

[harsh trail]

day 16 of asking for a throwing knives balance patch/bug fix to make them a viable weapon option

[vast crest]

You gave a class a practically always on invis, with a 1 shot shotty, and a stun. And they can equip them all at the same time. And in your first major patch, you didnt address it. Im just so disappointed.

[surreal rivet]

What did they do in the first patch?

[quick coyote]

anyone else getting tired dying 7 steps behind cover lol

[pallid cliff]

Bruh when a team runs in with three throwables and c4s because they're running HHL you predict that and anticipate it. The whole mines thing isn't because I'm blindly running in but rather need to push the point its covered in mines and cant do anything as I said before because if you drop it they detonate if you push it they detonate so your just screwed all around if a team is running nothing but mines. Like that isn't fun gameplay simple as that. Also rocket isn't just tough but is literally BUSTED it does way too much to any class Heavy, Medium, Light it doesn't matter. The throwables isn't just busted it literally makes the game uplayable.

[twin copper]

I second this motion 🫡

[sacred mirage]

Then don't play the game anymore if it's making you this upset, seems p straightforward to me lol. I and many others have stolen cashouts with mines on them without detonating them, it's completely possible. I also see you've completely ignored what I said about fire countering gas as well so, good job on that one. I wasn't implying that one can magically just predict when people are running around with c4 barrels, but if you're crouched in a corner in the cashout room or w/e you're gonna get popped. If you position well, you'll be able to see them on approach a lot of the time. Sure, there'll be times when you get dunked on by c4 barrels and it sucks, and I do think that it should be adjusted a bit. But, when I felt like you did during the first two weeks I played this game, I decided to slow my play down, try to position myself better, and It's increased my success & enjoyment. Good luck dude, don't get too angry.

Also your discord bio is cringe

[feral bloom]

Hey one more point please remove visual recoil kinda annoying IMO please and thanks

[pallid cliff]

U saying cringe is cringe in of itself. Also the whole point of this discussion in this server is feed back from players. I did stop playing during my session because of all the things I put above. Also I didn’t ignore ur fact about fire countering gas it’s just irrelevant since the whole point is utility and not something I have to run because of people spamming mines. Also it’s crazy u immediately jumped to being toxic after I responded to ur chat speaks a lot to ur character and explains how u try to justify this. Ur a person who abuses everything and ruins the fun for everyone else but since it pads ur stats ur cool with it for now. It’s ok just admit that next time u try and rebuttal. At the end of the day I trust the devs of this game to fix stuff and continue to make it fun but for now trying to be a productive person in a community and just give a shout to the devs on things I find frustrating or broken in their game. You know the whole point of this discussion group…… anyways keep on being toxic and keep missing the point of peoples chats in this game. I’d cut back on saying something is “cringe” it makes u look goofy and makes u seem like someone who doesn’t ever go outside. Otherwise thanks for the response but it was literally irrelevant to the idea of my chat. (I just realized u edited ur message too just to say cringe that’s crazy.)

[celest reef]

Please change your matchmaking system. Whoever came up with the idea of this one is a moron. You currently mm focus on making the winning chance of the match 50% for everybody, which means that people of higher skill are matched with people who has no clue of what they are doing. I’m tired of matching players who goes 0-10 and leave the match, while the other teams clearly are average players.if I’m good , why should I be punished for this? Mm for player skill and that’s it. I don’t wanna have to sweat my balls of every game to have to carry 2 people all the time

[wooden shale]

Just had a weird issue. Was matched into an in-session game by myself on a team. Two players appeared to try to join the game on my team within about a minute, but were immediately disconnected. One finally was able to join, but after we were both wiped, rather than being respawned with him, I was stuck spectating, with the "Press A to Respawn" prompt shown, but pressing A just moved my view up (as if pressing the jump button while spectating). I was eventually able to respawn again AFTER my teammate died. This happened again once we were wiped a second time; I didn't respawn automatically and unable to respawn manually until my teammate died.

Really frustrating, and I'm guessing it may be related to whatever server issues were preventing teammates from joining at first. Though if I'm being honest, the fact that I was matched into an in-progress game on a team completely by myself feels like another case where a bunch of people must have quit when things weren't going their way. We need stronger repercussions for people who leave a match early.

[twin copper]

Damn that’s tough

[wheat forge]

whole lotta yappness

[delicate yarrow]

PLEASE add an option in settings somewhere for different voicelines. It would be so funny to me and others if scotty and june started swearing in their voicelines. A few of us have come up with voicelines already, we just need a place to share them.

[sacred mirage]

Well if your idea of "tyring to be a productive person in the community" and giving a "shout to the devs" is saying "PLEASE CHANGE THIS GAME IS NEARLY UNPLAYABLE AS IS" and providing no actual suggestions outside of stating that multiple things make the game "unplayable", keep doing you. My winrate isn't even 50%, I don't even have a 1.5 k/d, I'm not running meta loadouts 24/7, and I'm still having fun. I don't even fully disagree with you on the barrels and the rocket, they could be tuned some more for sure but the notion that it makes the game unplayable is absurd. So tired of seeing people sending capslock messages and saying everything is overpowered, broken, and providing no thoughtful input about what should be done besides 'PLS FIX'. Thanks for educating me on the true philosophical nature of the word 'cringe' too! Good discussion, have a nice evening

[lapis pollen]

I think we can just leave if melee got no buff in next patch. It appears that they can't catch the point.

[sharp topaz]

pls fix m60 damage fall off.
all at 35~ meters

[vagrant raptor]

I’m so tired of stun guns. are they nerfing them

[dire skiff]

everyone complaining here is just light players coping 💀 maybe try playing a class that actually contributes to the team

[quick coyote]

they're great at contributing deaths within the first 10 seconds of the round somehow

[tranquil skiff]

Contacts are busted/bugged af… it would be nice if you fixed their bugs. You could do this with a Bug Report in the game…

I am working the Carried Away Contract and I am LITERALLY stuck at 450/500. I have damaged other players by throwing Gas Tanks laying around, chairs, Flame Barrels, etc. and it WILL NOT give me the points I need to complete it. It is incredibly frustrating that this happens on a regular basis.

Please, for the love of God, fix this. Thank you

[plush crater]

the dude above u just complained above stun gun and light is a good class it contributes in its own ways u should learn that instead of being a ignorant young man

[dire skiff]

only thing theyre contributing to is the fat L were abt to take when my random is a light player, all they do is run around and die, play medium or heavy and actually help us win instead of running around like a bitch

[quick coyote]

Embark, I beg you. Just be more interactive with the community and tell us stuff. Even if its lies.

[fair onyx]

expect it from updates, not from individual workers to come and respond people on discord. Once christmas event ends we probably get another update.

[plush crater]

gang has never heard of dps before smh if u got all butt lights on ur team just say that cuz

[nimble vale]

We that down bad? I disagree, don't lie to us Embark. Would have to agree on coms tho, communication goes a long way.

[quick coyote]

It was mainly a joke, I just feel weird that they're basically radio silence between patches. Feels empty/hollow.

[odd notch]

They have given us plenty of communication so far, given that the game has been around for only a month, of which christmas and new years was inbetween the release and now

[low gazelle]

In Ranked we should be able to swap from reserves in the middle of the round for 1 token.

[tawny oak]

Fix the damage registration, 3 sniper shots to kill lights is fucking stupid

[naive vine]

Bullets ghosting is horrible

[quick coyote]

What writing in this channel feel like.

this game is honestly starting to just kinda suck. the entire win mechanism gets annoying. its just kinda cheap lol

[rigid minnow]

pls buff sniper. make it 2 shot body medium 2 shot light and 3 shot heavy. 1 shot light and med headshots 2 for heavy. or 1 hs and 2 body heavy. I play controller pc light main. too many times im getting fucked by some med or heavy I leave on 1 hp.

[karmic cedar]

So far it's pretty good on console

[rose aurora]

The loading time of the secondary attack of the sword is nonsense

[quick coyote]

Just, like, don't go up to someone while using a sniper..?
Unless you're that one guy in #light-build-main who team wipes with it all the time in close quaters.

[frosty sierra]

need a team/all text chat for no mic gamers

[quick coyote]

We dont have this due to softies

[arctic acorn]

Whats the deal with the sound in the game? Teammate and my own footsteps are insanely loud. Loud to the point of drowning out enemy footsteps. The directional audio is also... sub-par... If someones in a building with me, audio cues should tell me where they are. Instead it just sounds like they are simply...somewhere in the building. Improvements in these areas would majorly help the game. I'm no programmer, otherwise I'd think up a solution technically. The "easy fix" here is to simply prioritize enemy audio cues over teammates. For me, its really the footsteps and the cancelation of certain sounds when a lot is going on. A heavy shouldn't be able to just walk behind my team without anyone being able to hear. Doesn't help that the guns are earblastingly loud. (The point about the guns isnt as important to me as guns are supposed to be loud)

Also, having team comms ON by default rather than OFF would do wonders for team play. Just as long as we have the freedom to mute trolls and other bad actors.

[buoyant basin]

nerf c4 nukes

[thick fractal]

need custom crosshairs with the option to turn off crosshair bloom, need to add more options for sensitivity for different guns, or have sensitivity profiles for builds. maybe reduce the cooldown on light so they can play that in and out playstyle as described? keep the 150 hp cause light will get sneezed on and die by literally anything anyways

[buoyant basin]

vault c4 nukes

[gaunt knoll]

pls nerf the riot shield

[rocky atlas]

I wish we could disable being able to ADS/Scope while reloading, it just throws me off most of the time.

[hard magnet]

can you turn the breach charge arming time down a bit? I keep wanting to detonate within half a second of tossing it on the wall or ground or wherever but the two-three second arm time prevents that.

[cunning stag]

Two body shots for medium would be kinda OP, a headshot damage buff would be nice though, at least medium should be one shot on the head but the range needs to be nerf so people don't camp with it

[lyric gale]

That'd be hella op

[undone ore]

If they turned Defib to make the revived's body slowly has the retro cube form to the body, and Sonar Grenade can be destroy, with little tweak on Turret's health and accuracy I am okay with Medium.

[hazy marsh]

two things: defib is not at all healthy for the game, regardless of spawn protection, because this game, dying should matter, regardless of where, because if a whole team just suffers deaths and then chain rezzes, with defibs, its not a fun game, and also, please fix matchmaking both casual and ranked, because right now its a horrible mess

[pallid citrus]

https://youtu.be/moBgG4RVr-w?si=P09xfAPIHf45X5EA

Probably here already but this needs to be brought to attention

[gaunt knoll]

• this discord server needs a custom join to create vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of it)
• need a in-game global player find (like cs and fortnite)
• nerf the riot shield
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs)

[undone ore]

• this discord server needs a custom join to create vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of it)
• need a in-game global player find (like cs and fortnite)
• nerf the riot shield
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs)

[quick coyote]

• this discord server needs a custom join to create vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of it)
• need a in-game global player find (like cs and fortnite)
• nerf the F-CAR
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs)

• this discord server needs a custom leave to delete vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of advertising)
• need a in-game global player find (like searching their name on your platform)
• nerf thing I don't like
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs) (this one is actually really good)

[gaunt knoll]

• this discord server needs a custom join to create vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of it)
• need a in-game global player find (like cs and fortnite)
• nerf the F-CAR and riot shield
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs)

[quick coyote]

add a vc creation chat on this discord pls

[north dew]

Voice channels has been raised for at least half a year, its not happening

[frail prawn]

why nerf the riot shield? its already the worst melee weapon

[undone ore]

I gorgot to deleted, it supposed to be joke, I'm sorry

[heavy brook]

Not sure about the shield, I think it should be buffed a little actually. I don't believe anyone would say the shield is broken if it kills a heavy in 4 hits instead of 5.

Also, the FCAR does have a stupid easy recoil pattern. Would be nice to make it a little bit harder and add 4 bullets OR increase dmg slightly

[quick coyote]

dogshit matchmaking

[green bison]

it needs to be easier to tell when the thrust on the sword is ready, whenever i see it completely pointed out i think it's ready and try to thrust the sword, only to have it cancel the charge and leave me defenceless, i mean the sword shouldn't even be pointing forwards if it isn't ready to thrust, let alone wait 1 second after it looks like it's ready to actually be ready, it's killed me WAYYY too many times

[calm fulcrum]

turret got too much health for the value it provides

[oblique yew]

Cheaters, and nerf wallhach power on medium, do it like the ulti of cypher in Valorant.

[queen rover]

Valorant💀

[frigid bear]

anyone in ranked right now? a lot of cheater 🥲

[tawny oak]

it is 2 shot light and 2 shot medium if you land 1 head shot, the thing is though is that the servers are dog shit and they do not have proper damage consistency, one game its 2 shots for a light but the next its 3 shots, it makes absolutely no sense, the servers are the biggest problem with this game

[blissful crescent]

Pls add a 120 fps mode on at least uncap the fps on console

[solar oasis]

get rid of the nuke and ban all rewasd players

[valid night]

roll back lh1 to OB version plz fix reload bug

[tawny oak]

ADD A FUCKING SERVER REPORT OPTION MAN, HALF OF THESE SERVERS SHOULDNT EVEN BE ACTIVE ON HOW BAD THE REGISTRATION IS

[cedar fulcrum]

I KNOW RIGHT

[quick coyote]

When update?

[gloomy verge]

I would like to know too. At least some hotfix would be nice.

[balmy meteor]

is there a way 2 rejoin an ongoing match after a crash?

[molten verge]

usually a reconnect button when you load up

[analog jasper]

PLEASE FIX THE HACKER ISSUE BEFORE EVERYONE LEAVES and becomes another GUNZ ONLINE

[bright forge]

indeed. alot right now

[regal sluice]

cashout bug that i definitely should not have gotten. no idea how to replicate. this is a game ruining bug for someone in ranked https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/QNQb04TUvJ

[tribal shuttle]

actual facts

[undone ore]

Fire should be like HuntShowdown, temporarily "Burnt off" Max HP for 40 secs buff damage little

While Poison deal damage based on Current HP 15-20% every tick and couldn't kill you, decreased Gas duration by half.

[royal turtle]

andd i got suspended for physically not being able to reconnect my match. Thanks for this awesome feature dev team!

[native epoch]

can we plz get kbm settings menu on console

[solar oasis]

remove nukes, ban cheaters including all rewasd users or your game is toast thank you

[queen rover]

RPG is very fun to die instantly to!!!

[lapis pollen]

I won't stop till they buff dagger, dagger and dagger. Or maybe knives

[indigo stone]

Allow us to make private lobbies so we can just mess around with friends. You can disable exp gain

[gaunt knoll]

• this discord server needs a custom join to create vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of it)
• need a in-game global player find (like cs and fortnite)
• nerf the riot shield
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs)

[naive bough]

it's just me or apparently there's a glitch where you can't res your teammate on a grass zone with the M heal ability class ??

[sage bison]

?? Fcar does not need buffed its one of the best guns in the game lol

[little kite]

why when im trying to slog through gold, i get a bronze 4 and an unranked on my team?

[quick coyote]

add a tokyo map, everyone is suggesting it

[shy lily]

Pls fix sniper scope when moving, bullet doesnt go where the scope is as it is not centre of screen, not sure if this issue pursues with other guns but bullet should go where reticle is

[south knot]

-Return to meta of OP and please stop nerfing the gadgets. ❤️

[placid grotto]

Add BANKIT to ranked!!!

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[tawny oak]

the bullets dont go where the reticle/scope is, its a bugged game and i definitely think they wont bother fixing it any time soon, i just dont understand how the dev team is so slow on doing things, even communicating

[quick coyote]

Cheater increase
User decrease
Update decrease
Motivation decrease

[hazy marsh]

hes just saying that a buff could be warranted as a tradeoff for an overall recoil nerf

[buoyant basin]

vault c4 nukes

[gilded dome]

Plz Embark do something against cheater ! 50% of my game i have a cheater using aimbot. That's so demoralizing

[gaunt knoll]

• this discord server needs a custom join to create vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of it)
• need a in-game global player find (like cs and fortnite)
• nerf the riot shield
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs)

[hazy marsh]

buff c4 nukes

[valid night]

rollback lh1 and glitch grenade to OB version fix reload bug plz😭

[royal turtle]

add an option to abandon my team without having a stupid fucking cooldown for 10 minutes please

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E T H A N K S

[vapid fractal]

Is the issue of the game uploading a lot of data in a short period of time, choking my 1Mbps upload and causing severe lag/packet loss for a few seconds a known one?

[open fulcrum]

add better algorithm for matchmaking please (the current one is absolute dogshit)

[safe turtle]

Haven’t been able to get in the game for 3/4 days now - connection failed everytime - error code TFLA0002 on Xbox - submitted multiple tickets on website no response - if anyone knows a fix pls Dm me

[sly haven]

I’m so sick and tired of heavy head glitching with barricade it’s ruining the game

[tight oak]

Close out the game and open it up again, make sure other apps aren’t open in the background (YouTube, other games, etc) i keep having the same issue and i just fully close everything then log in

[fathom jay]

add finisher moves for good luck👍

[valid night]

roll back lh1 to OB VERSION or buff it's damage to 50 but increase vertical recoil glitch grenade short trigger time plz😭

[thorn mural]

Anyone else unable to hear voice chat? My settings all appear to be fine, correct audio output, volume is up, joined voice chat. My teammates can hear me and I can see they are speaking but cant hear them. Not worked since launch

[mellow cape]

1. Options to choose the server!
2. Server stats: ping, packets and etc.
3. Hit markers turn off option
4. OPTIMIZATION!!!

[vagrant coral]

There is an insane amount of cheaters in my lobbies, playing from Central Europe. Straight up ridiculous... I reported every one of them, had 4 cheaters spread across 3 teams in Bank It.. totally ruins the game.

[safe turtle]

Tried that mate , tried uninstalling , tried different internet connection , tried restarting my internet connection , nothing seems to fix it , can’t even load the game on a second account to play

[lapis pollen]

dagger dagger dagger

[calm orbit]

Some feedback regarding the Throwing Card skin for the Throwing Knives:

1. the animations are phenomenal and the design is stunning

2. the sound is disappointing. They still sound like the metal throwing knives. If they made more of a quieter "THWIP" sound when the throwing cards skin is equipped would be so awesome, even if it's only for the person using them for balance sake (so that opponents still know they're being attacked with the throwing knives).

3. idk how difficult it would be to change this, but the throwing cards turning into throwing knives on impact off-putting and would be awesome if they stayed as cards when they embedded into walls and stuff

Cheers!

[warm mauve]

Don’t think it’s possible but they should make the riot shield able to block melee as well. Kind of dumb you can be blocking and the sword, dagger, and sledgehammer clips through it.

[quick coyote]

Melee buff pls
Like can run while using

[sage nexus]

I would love to have Linux/Steam Deck anti cheat to be turned on. I don't even care if you block crash reports from being sent and refuse to offer any other support to the game because I know the amount of work that would take. That's how Blizzard handles all their games and how Roblox is handled as well.

[plush grotto]

Try reinstalling the game, had to that on my pc before it went away

[copper nymph]

please maek gaem not lag in pakistan

[pine nymph]

hey some feedback for the tournament mode:
So when I tried to play with friends, got kicked out due to a server error on the first round, reconnected, we won that first round, but instead of going to the second, I got kicked out and penalized, while my friends had to play the second round without one player. Why is the game like this? I feel like this is a problem that needs adressing, since sometimes internet can just go off for people, so even a minute of disconnect can ruin the tournament not just for the one person getting disconnected, but also the other 2 people who now have to play without one person, despite that one person being willing to play.

[molten horizon]

really bad server performance...shots not registrering

[thorn spire]

MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

[quick coyote]

U P D A T E
W H E N 😭

[fathom jay]

Add weapon attachments for good luck👍

[finite kernel]

Here's a little change I'd appreciate to see 👇

Having the weekly contracts and the store timers the same, its small but I think it would just help me remember what things end on what day ;-;

[native portal]

day 10 of asking for rank based matchmaking for season 2

[drifting thistle]

wow suddenly our build been lock, need play few round to unlock

[feral bloom]

We also need sniper buffs

[wicked tartan]

how im need to play 60round to unlock my rank bruh ,im diamond 3 bro

[little dirge]

dude it is joke ı am gold3 170 hours play time and ı play again 60 rounds

[quick coyote]

1/8 official the finals release date!!!!
Not 12/8
You have to grind again

[prime brook]

This game is doomed to fail with recon

[plush plaza]

remove aim assist from PC alltogether 🙂

[fallen bolt]

having it completely alters the game honestly, it feels suffocating to play against especially in the final 3v3

[lapis pollen]

dagger dagger dagger, buff dagger!

[warped elk]

medium class needs the rpg or something else to destroy walls, the mines are to slow/weak

[livid summit]

But the entire point of the heavy is destruction, if u give that to another class it removed the point of using a heavy

[quick coyote]

Make melee attack while running
🔨🔪🛡️🗡️

[severe linden]

Stop putting me into games that already have a deposit and are about to end

[white turret]

Plat, medium healer, LF1. RANKED ONLY

[hearty hound]

yes need indian server

[quick coyote]

And also china and jp server

[long belfry]

Until the rewasd issue gets solved deploy a hotfix that disables aim assist on pc temporarily to keep the game playable. Its understandable that the issue is not easy to solve and might need some time but we need something until then.

[ivory jay]

Love the game y’all did an amazing job although hope to see custom games coming soon for just your friends to play and in the far future community made map as an option would be amazing

[subtle oak]

Will we see a sniper buff?

[thin fulcrum]

There might be a bug with the goo stuck prevent system.

Yesterday I noticed that in the inspector view (The freecam after a team wipe) can also break the goo if it's stuck in it. Poor guy threw a goo grenade at my ghost and the goo wall broke because of me. He was just looking at the goo like wtf happened here, why did it break :D

[cosmic crystal]

NERF NUKES U PATHETIC DEVS

[echo otter]

Ur just bad

[fathom jay]

fr

[hard ether]

I'm sorry but if the matchmaking is producing games where someone gets 15 kills while someone else gets 2 kills in the entire game then the matchmaking is obviously dogshit and producing a HORRIBLE experience for a lot of people's games.

This isn't a complaint about the existence of matchmaking, that's fine, the complaint is that it's not actually producing fair games. It's a complete waste of time for these people getting these terrible matchups.

I'd wager that at least some of the cheating complaints occurring are actually the very loose matchmaking too. When you put people with such large differences in gunplay skill up against one another it feels like cheating to some of them because they just feel so totally outmatched.

I know a handful of people who have quit completely because of this experience. They're unlikely to come back, the update pace makes them think the game isn't going to ever really get the support it needs.

[fallow light]

battlepass should be at least 2x faster, especially if you bought premium

[quick coyote]

agreed

[thin grail]

literally stealing ranked points from players for having bad internet connection is so dumb
My friend has an unstable connection, and sometimes he may not be able to reconnect to the end of the game so he just gets 1k+ fame points stolen from him every time

[alpine jungle]

It’s not hard to do

[thorny wigeon]

• C4 needs to be reduced to 1 charge, and throwable objects need their range reduced if C4 is attached to them.
• Glitch grenades need to be impact detonated.
• Dash needs a minor buff, a little bit more range and reduce the visibility of the trail.
• Grappling Hook needs a significant buff, give it farther range, much quicker recharge, and the movement should be a little faster.
• Cloak needs a minor nerf, more visible when moving.
• Light / Medium as a whole class needs rework — medium has too much necessary team utility meanwhile light has nothing. Easiest fix is Light should have a faster health Regen and get defibs — them being the fast skirmishers suits the in/out reviver role better and also balances Medium out by no longer have all the must-have team utility. Alternatively, they need to create more team gadgets so Light can contribute to the team or shift other utility from Medium to Light.
• Recon Senses need a nerf.
• Aim Assist needs nerf

[hazy marsh]

yeah i really cant agree with this more, i hear all the time about how ranked is an experience of the top 100 people in the world getting matched against bronzes, so i mostly play casual, then i get teammates who are clearly struggling in my mmr and then the game is lost extremely easily cause we have a teammate completely out of the league of everyone else in the match, in addition, i feel like unless i play the absolute best builds in the game, im going to get stomped for trying something new/off meta because its basically so punishing mmr wise

[earnest granite]

heavy is meant to be distrucktive ,heavy should have 2 c4 while the light has 1 c4(breach charge),lights should not get difibs as they would just run around reving people

[hard ether]

Even the top players on Twitch are begging for it to be tightened up. Because their experience is just completely stomping people over and over again. That shit's boring for them too and they know they're just ruining the game for other people.

I don't know why it's so loose to begin with. I've never seen "matchmaking" that produces matches in 5 seconds flat even at 5am. I don't think it's doing anything at all.

Ideally the matchmaking would put people with equal gunplay skill up against their peers. Then at least things will feel fair.

[orchid cloud]

It does block melee attacks. I play heavy sledgehammer mostly and mediums can block melee attacks with their shield.

[smoky storm]

All gun sight sway removed during ADS,stay centered on screen,ironsights included

Healing beam is interrupted for 1/4-1/3 second if target takes bullet dmg.help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay.environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
Replace Recon with Defib as a specialization, or nerf defib

Turret(potentially other gadgets) hitbox fix(bullets go through gaps gives turret greater than intended EHP)

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

double barrel shotty nerf

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4/RPG Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc)

Option for more neutral background colors, too vibrant, causes eyestrain

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Allow access to the keybinds config file for improved keybind options

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking(no raw input/aim assist mixing).Full MNK support for console.This is probably the most important thing for longterm MNK playerbase - please dont be another apex, cod, halo which becomes controller dominated and unplayable as mnk!Gyro(no AA)can play with MNK

solo ranked queue w/ forced 1L1M1H team and role queue(separate ladder to current ranked)

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Reduce gas and dust particle opacity

ladders do not autoclimb

[junior ridge]

You've got to fix the floors, there have been so many times where the floor has been blown up but the edges still look like they're there from the top and you just fall through them when you try to walk over them. They aren't visible from the bottom so there are also times where enemies shoot you through the floor without you being able to see them.

[steel peak]

This game is not playable, too many cheaters what do you plan to do about it, I don't recommend playing it at the moment

[rose aurora]

We must innovate for the skin lol 2 identical skin in the combat pass one white and one black and in store one our skin identical to the wedding dress

[rotund rain]

can we turn this game into starcraft 2

[swift nexus]

One of my ideas could make this game stand out. So you guys should taff this feature where we could spectate on going games and use fame points to bet on them this would make this game be outstanding from others. And people with the most fame points from the spectating games get their profile on bill boards

[violet loom]

not feedback per se. but a dodgeball mode (will full bracket tourney) would be killer. explosive or non. or maybe both with a super ball that explodes. idk. I know id play it

[lavish cloud]

#👂┇game-feedback

I have a really cool idea for ranked tournaments that I believe would really hype up the players. I doubt you'll be able to do it, but I'll try to explain it the best I can.
Going into the final round, during the introduction, you should showcase some random kill feeds of the previous games from the 2 final teams. Kind of like highlight reels. Also, instead of calling it the final round, why not call it The Finals since it's the name of the game. "Welcome to, The Finals" just sounds so much better than the final round considering it's the name of the game haha. Just a thought. Thanks for listening. 👍

[floral gale]

Add kill cam

[rugged gull]

yes kill cam/death reaplay. it would be great to see how some random dude kills me from across the mapp :)

[hard ether]

CL-40 Damage per shot = 75

4 bullets per clip, then it needs to reload

300 possible damage per reload

Not even enough to kill a heavy. 350hp. Meanwhile the Heavy gets weapons that do 1000+ damage before reload. 1610 on the M60, 1175 on the Lewis.

Buff the CL-40. No weapon in the game should have this little damage per magazine.

The TTK vs a Heavy is 3.8seconds due to the reload requirement lmaooooooooo

You desperately need to give this gun 1 or 2 more shots per magazine.

[fallen fossil]

need steamdeck/linux support!

[violet loom]

if defib is x meters away + active, flash something on my screen so i put the chips down before im revived

[strong wave]

I'm playing on controller. Where is this OP aim assit everyone keeps talking about? I can't hit shit 🤣🤣🤣

[sonic spoke]

Bring friends?

[stuck axle]

Great game but we need more cheaters please.

[delicate hawk]

???

[fervent magnet]

Keyboard and mouse compatibility with console

[thorny wigeon]

If they are meant to be focused on environment destructive, then Heavy should have the 2 breach charges and not C4.
If the C4 is gonna have it's nuke potential kept, then it needs to be reduced to 1 at the very least.
Heavy's already have a ton of destructive utility aside from the C4 anyways — they won't lose that utility at all even if C4 is nerf.

Mediums already can run around and defib people. Difference is that they can also immediately heal the person back to full and have decent HP themselves.
Lights having defibs means you need to coordinate with your teammate who can heal, reviving via defibs is more of a risk as the Light is the weakest class, and if anything they can simply increase defib cooldown slightly.

[quick coyote]

Man's told on himself

[manic quartz]

you cant be that bad i dont believe it to be true

[modern sparrow]

idea for new ability? Jetpack for mediums? :)\

[hard ether]

Literally just won a game and didn't pop the "first win of the day" daily lmao wtf.

[flat shoal]

Lights need faster regen, Cant play hit and run if regen takes 20 secs to kick in

[earnest granite]

c4 and breach charge are the same,heavy should have 2 c4

[fast iris]

A audio setting that removes ambience sounds like the sand Storm, alien Invasion and other events

[daring fossil]

so many hot takes in here today. I've seen multiple people say dash needs a buff, it has 3 charges, it does not need to be faster or have a longer range lol, and as a grapple main, grapple just needs to retain momentum better instead of slowing you to run speed as soon as you let go, and reduce the cooldown by 2-3 seconds, it doesn't need an extra charge, it would be OP with 2.

[dark night]

valorant did NOT blow up because of india 💀

[deft moth]

compared to the MGL32, it definitly feels like it lacks something, not saying they are supposed to be the same in terms of stats, but from what i see, CL-40 is about strong direct hits (Much faster projectile speed and explodes on impact) while MGL32 is about AoE

honestly feels like the gun could use a buff to either direct damage or reload speed, or just more capacity like you said

[quick coyote]

U P D A T E
W H E N 😭

[dusty sedge]

They should do a community vote/suggestion for team names for the next season

[flat shoal]

Kinda wish dash had a shorter cd outside of combat,
The cd is so long that if you use it to relocate you don't have enough charges for the next fight, making it hard to use outside of combat.

[vernal quiver]

If explosives fell off throwables, there would no longer be nukes and the damage could stay the same

[daring fossil]

that's the trade off between the dash and grapple. I also have to be careful how I use the grapple outside of combat so I can use it to get out of a fight if I need to.

[vast crest]

I understand it was just the holidays and game development is not easy. But you know what is easy, being open and communicating with your player base. Tell us what you are doing.

[hoary turtle]

Would be AMAZING to get more cosmetic vibes for the GAME SHOW branch of the game. Idk, but just feel like we could see a little bit more of the “game show” vibe for sure. That’s what drew me into the game for sure, as well as the fantastic game play ! Love the game so much, and would love to see more of the game show aspect ! Like commercial breaks during the tournament after a game while waiting ? More of the voice lines, maybe like a couple cameras or something ! Would be amazing !

[hard ether]

The only thing it really lacks is being able to go up against the Heavy. I think it's fine in the rest of things, the inability to kill a heavy without a reload is a huge oversight.

The damage can't be changed because then it would be too strong in close quarters spaces where it hits more than 1 person per attack. So really what it needs is a magazine size increase.

I honestly think that the magazine sizes in the game are all a bit small. 5 extra bullets in a lot of the other weapons would probably be welcomed by most people. It would also vastly improve Lights and Mediums when fighting heavies because the primary reason these classes are losing fights to Heavy at the moment is because they have to reload mid fight.

I don't think you can buff the direct damage without overpowering it. The backlash if you overpower an aoe weapon will be big too. But then there's nukes in the game already which are a far bigger problem so.

[quick coyote]

Give Heavy 1000 health, 3x lights movement, and give medium infinite defibs (special mode)

[smoky gust]

a mines trigger radius should not be bigger than the in-game model

currently it feels unresponsive, needlessly punishing and irritating

[gray sedge]

Please add vr support with manual reloading of weapons, room scale and smooth locomotion support, and all the other standard features working seamlessly with flatscreen, and psvr2 would DEFINITELY have an audience for this. Considering the destruction physics are done server side, you don't have to sorry about it bogging down performance!

This is a NO BRAINER! PLEASE make us vr nerds dreams come true...don't under estimate its potential

[remote fox]

Would like to see more content in the store. It’s a bit of a bummer to wait out the 7 day store refresh timer just for one item or pack to be added or nothing at all in some instances. Just a greater variety or more frequent cosmetic update would be great!

[daring fossil]

I've been using VR since 2016 and I'd say I'm an advanced user and playing the finals in VR would even make me sick. Plus you couldn't do crossplay with consoles or PC players, it just wouldn't be viable.

[modern sparrow]

although... I also am a vr vet and i can say the opposite. i think vr would be awesome for the finals! but as of right now I just want to focus on content. I want new abilities weapons and gagdets to keep the game feeling fresh. Here is hoping for next season!

[quick coyote]

UPDATE ANTICHEAT
NEVER UNBAN CHEATER

[gray crypt]

Can we get a feature that tells us if people in our friendlist are in the middle of a game ?

[hard ether]

The idea of the current jumppads existing in VR makes me sick just thinking about it.

[rose surge]

Day 1 of quitting The Finals until they fix the blatant cheating issues.

[jovial mica]

My account buy Bundle Packge Season 1, but game not give me weapon skin, give only 1150 coin ? Why ? Is bug ?

[pure gyro]

I wouldn’t mind seeing the grenade launcher gone lol so annoying 😆

[daring fossil]

the finals in VR would be a fucking blast, don't get me wrong, but you can't put VR players in the same game as kb/m or console players, it just wouldn't work, and the VR player base is so tiny in comparison, which is why I said it's most likely not viable.

@gray sedge I have over 4000 hours in VR and I still can't smooth turn, that's not something some people can just adapt to, and I can play most games that the average VR player complains about motion sickness.

[gray sedge]

I've been playing vr just as long and that's a you issue lol. Most of us are fine doing backflips in vr like sairento vr, hellsweeper vr, and the blade and sorcery mod that let's you do flips with full manual control.

Don't hold back the rest of gaming becuase you havnt adapted yet. Same thing happened back when mouselook first came out in the 90s. People complained of motion sickness, but thank god we didn't listen to those people because if we had, we would still be controlling fps games with keyboard mostly, without the ability to aim up or down, it just aims itself like doom did.

If your getting g sick, you have something setup wrong. Plain and simple.

[glossy compass]

ngl would be nice if skins where steam trade able, people will still have to buy them so u lose no money \

[languid raven]

I'm on PC playing w/ a controller (wrist health reasons). In the menus my CPU temps are dangerously high (around 88-95 degrees) when a controller is plugged in so I need to unplug it until I'm in game. My CPU usage is only around 45%. Apparently this happens to others so would be nice to have this looked at. My temps reduce to 55-65 degrees when I unplug my controller. Some forms online say it's just about how many inputs you have, and unplugging M&KB or turning off bluetooth sometimes helps. Very weird stuff

[twilit plank]

I have high CPU usage without a controller on PC in menu.
Though it might detect another one of my devices as a controller to the same effect?

[lilac coral]

Mybe a cut scene to the commentators a high light reel if you win

[quick coyote]

https://youtu.be/h5NnatfZifo

[wheat island]

https://imgur.com/a/QjaZoAc
https://imgur.com/krRERWQ
BAN CHEATERS ALREADY FFS

[digital summit]

they're working on it

[daring fossil]

this game in general just roasts CPU's I had to turn off multi-core enhancements in bios to stop it from hitting 100 degrees, now it just hits 98 (liquid cooled even)

@gray sedge getting sick in VR has nothing to do with something setup wrong lol (well in some cases maybe, if your FPS is too low, but that's not my issue). Some people just can't adapt to smooth turn, or smooth locomotion, or fast movement, or disjointed cameras. I can handle literally anything in VR but smooth turning and still have to use snap turning to this day after 4000+ hours. It doesn't matter, there would be like 200 people playing this is VR, it's not worth their effort. You can't put VR players in the same lobbies as non-vr for obvious reasons

[summer mica]

Regarding the CPU usage, it's Unreal Engine's fault in a way, you can import, do shit ton of textures without needing to optimize, since it "works" and it's easy.

[crystal storm]

Every single suggestion in here doesnt matter for as long as Aim Assist is on the PC client. 🥱 So many people defending literal cheating lmao

[sly tinsel]

Devs your doing great keep up the good work🦄

Pss- unicorn bundle

[glossy compass]

100% or just remove it entirely let them feel the pain

[meager remnant]

they should fix their game first, unicorn bundle later

[sly haven]

Game is so much fun just the glitches can ruin it sometimes

[daring fossil]

the game never ran this hot in previous alpha or betas. They did something to improve input delay with the server-side movement, I think they somehow offloaded some of the physics stuff to the client. The thing is, the cores that hit 98-100 degrees aren't even being used 50%

@glossy compass im in the boat of: if they are going to leave aim assist as much of an aimbot crutch as it is now, they need input-based matchmaking. Controller users need some form of assist to compete with m/kb players, but the implementation in this game it aims for them. Controller players just need to learn to actually aim.

[coral hawk]

Everyone running medium with recon is so much fun. Its geniunely so much fun to play against all the time

[gray sedge]

And those players shouldn't be trying to hold back the rest of us. Go and read reviews for aliens trilogy on psx back when it came out. Evert reviewer took points off BECUASE of the controls, which was the first time an fps game used twin stick inputs.

The main reason they didn't like it? Motion sickness.

There has been plenty of success with games 50x more intense than this in vr, it would just be silly to use that as a reason to not try it!

Also why is the game so hard on your cpu? All the physics and player movement is handled on the server not your pc

[umbral leaf]

Recon underrated 🫡

[pure gyro]

You could just say you nerfed aim assist in the patch notes and not do anything and then they wouldnt notice any difference and get them to stop crying

[craggy locust]

my game crash whenever i launch and when i try to create a memory dump i get this i tried reinstalling using dx11 in launch argument restarting the computer deleting the saved folder in appdata/local/discovery verifying the files with steam

my config is way above the minimal rtx 3060ti ryzen 5 3400g 16G ram

Dumping started...
Dump generation failed: 8007012B
Code: C00000FD
Address: 00007FFA84BB7D39
RAX: 000000a246424330 RCX: 00007ffa82200000
RDX: 000000a246424330 RBX: 0000000000000000
RSP: 000000a246423b40 RBP: 000000a246424330
RSI: ffff80057ddfffff RDI: ffffcd4a0b4b0100
R8: ffffff5db9bdbccf R9: 000000a246424330
R10: 00007ff882200000 R11: 061100420ffb6416
R12: 000000000000fffd R13: 000000a246425fc0
R14: 000000a246425fb8 R15: 00000260fc1936c0
If reporting this error, please include all of the above lines.
Failed.

i got error on the thing made to report error

[fiery lake]

It would be great if we could enter with our group in the training center, for training with your team

[twilit plank]

• Kill cam, even if only available in after match replay to help verify and report cheaters..

[plush grotto]

Please fix full auto shotgun glitch

[glossy compass]

its not hard to control the recoil { its easy recoil } you just need to learn it { like with everything }, i used to play ps4 ranked in apex, high master, for me the aim assist isn't a problem its when u have both the movement and the aim its one or the other, pc movement to combat the aim assist, controllers aim assist to combat our movement { plus it isn't hard to aim with out aim assist on controller i did it it took a while to rewire it my head but its not imposable }

[daring fossil]

again, it would be great in VR and I would 100% play it even with snap turning (I destroy in pavlov with snap turning), but it's not worth the devs effort when the VR install base is tiny in comparison, and lobbies for VR would have to be VR only, queue times would be abysmal.

The game isn't hard on my CPU, read again. Cores not even 50% usage hitting 100 degrees (only 2 of them), the rest of the cores sitting around 20-30% hitting 70-80. It's not just me, its literally everyone. Play with a temp sensor program on. and I run the game at maxed settings meaning I'm taking all the load off the CPU as possible. my cpu only hits 70s in Cyberpunk and other modern games that are even heavier on the CPU. Like I said, they changed something, movement and physics is supposed to be all server side, but in the alpha and beta's input lag was terrible because of this, I think whatever they changed to improve that offloaded some of the load onto the client causing the temps to be way hotter on release. or it could also be anti-cheat related gobbling cycles.

@twilit plank a demo viewer would be amazing, but at the very least we need kill cams showing the enemies loadout (if you get defibbed, it can just cancel the kill cam). someone using recon sense makes you feel like you get hacked on, and there's no way to tell if they are using recon sense or actually wall hacks. Also sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between aim bots and aim assist (since the aim assist in this game is such bullshit)

@glossy compass 90% of controller users wouldn't hit a goddamn thing in this game if they disabled aim assist, because most controller users rely on aim assist too much. people complained about aim assist in warzone/cod being too strong, and this games aim assist is like 10x stronger, literally locks to players when you ADS and will pull your view 180 degrees if the player you locked on to runs by you.

[drifting lintel]

Oh my god yap…

[tardy prism]

https://imgur.com/a/CmOeTbB WHAT U SOHIUD DO ????

[pure gyro]

It does not lock you onto people 😆 the only time aim assist gets weird is like when you said, if they run directly in front of me horizontally to the point where we would be touching it can rotate my screen but that’s not help that sucks lol but from distance I never understand why so many complain. I’ve never had it lock on to someone for me. I think it’s mostly an excuse for dieing. And guns still have recoil. I just don’t get it.

[drifting blaze]

2 annoyances I have:
No real actors for the announcers sounds extremely half baked, like please bring them in to record new lines.

Some of the bundle prices make no sense: like for 20 dollars you can get a full gear set, but a watch costs 8!?

[hoary turtle]

THIS! Imagine being able to see the top kills after a match?! That’s what I mean, give us more game show theme ! Love how unique it is!

[fervent tree]

Do people understand what controllers being "competitive" with kbm actually means?

The one advantage roller has over kbm, the aimbot, must actually be such a big advantage that it outweighs all the endless advantages people claim kbm has.

Think about that for a moment... Then consider how much focus and attention reactive tracking takes and what else that processing capacity can be use for when you don't need to dedicate it to aim.

But most importantly, kbm Vs kbm combat in mid to high ttk games has a whole load of depth which the vast majority of modern FPS players don't know about; reading people, breaking patterns, timing reloads and fire rate and movement timing based on that, stand still dodge, run into wall dodge, so much wierd and wonderful stuff which affects real human aim massively, but does nothing against 100% consistent 0ms reaction and lock on snapping code.

Some of us are actually anti AA because it's literally ruining high level kbm combat, it's the same reason we don't want to switch to roller, why we want KBM only lobbies; because kbm and roller is a different game. Nothing against roller players, just against losing the depth I love for the sake of us all playing together for no good reason.

[frail prawn]

my major and only complain about aim assist is because of the reWASD, aim assist is for a great reason, locked into only controllers, reWASD let you have all the assist on a K&M and some reWASD literally gives you 0 recoil, thats the issue, I havent played with controller so I really dont know if the aim assist is broken for it but I do know than its an issue only when paired with K&M and to be honest, it is a way of cheat that should be treated like that

[summer mica]

"some" reWASD. If u don't have a life, you might as well create the anti-recoil as well.

[gaunt ridge]

Are grenade launchers worth using?

[winter snow]

I don’t think any of you have a life sitting here complaining bout stupid shit

[chrome dawn]

flamethrower's too effective

[daring fossil]

it definitely does lock on to people, if it didn't it wouldn't spin you 180 degrees. Aim assist also has recoil smoothing, meaning if you counter-move and follow someone horizontally, there's next to no recoil, if you stand still, sure, but nobody is standing still while shooting.

Go to the shooting range and just sit there looking down range, your crosshair will literally be pulled back and forth by the dummies moving back and forth (with zero input from you). When you ADS in the general direction of a player your crosshair is moved for you over the closest target, making things like the stun gun an almost guaranteed hit if you shoot it almost immediately after ADSing with next to no input from the player.

[pure gyro]

I understand your opinion. A lot of you act like you just need to be looking in the direction of an enemy and just hit the trigger and it aims for you and that’s just not accurate. You still gotta use both sticks or the recoil is wild to the point where it’ll pull of the player and you’ll die. While trying to jump/slide/shoot you still gotta use both sticks to control the recoil cause if you don’t it won’t control the recoil and you’ll die. Stick drifts and dead ones are a thing. I understand it’s two different ways to play the game but you’ll never convince me the turning and precious aiming with a mouse is inferior to controller. It’s just harder to learn kbm but the ceiling is way higher

[subtle oak]

Input based matchmaking solves the aim assist issue.

[crystal storm]

if the excuse to have aim assist is because "i have a bad controller" - consider not having a bad controller

[gray sedge]

They should just disable controller support period for pc untill they come up with a solution. They can use mouse and keyboard like a big boy or girl

[rocky verge]

I want more visual recoil on the nade launcher (heavy)… with a bigger “thunk thunk thunk” when it shoots (pls gimme dopamine)
Also, spamming my goo gun at someone probably shouldn’t fuck up their whole capture… or it should idk

[sharp acorn]

20cm drop of the cashbox should not result in a cancel of the capture.

[hoary turtle]

THIS ! post it in Reddit thread too, and then game rant and others will make article. We need them to hear this. It’s a respectful opinion for sure. People don’t understand it til you say it like THAT

[tough kiln]

I tried reinstalling to fix the voice chat. It worked for maybe 24 hours and then stopped working. Solo q is already much more difficult. I hope this is near the top of the list for things to fix otherwise the game will lose a lot of people quickly. Not being able to communicate with teammates in a game that is focused on teamplay is a serious issue.

[past zinc]

Stun pistol is a bit too strong, most of the time its used as a free kill tool instead of it being a useful part of the kit like stopping capping or getting away from people who are too close.

[daring fossil]

try keeping your crosshair on the cashout. Have you never tried to revive someone while their statue is rolling down a roof slope? If your crosshair is barely on the cashout to begin with, and it moving 20cms cancels the steal, then you should probably look at the cashout while you're stealing.

[wheat yarrow]

Sorry but we’ve all watched countless videos of the ridiculous snap you aim assist have lol. It’s ruining the game.

[elfin dagger]

right lmao, also the amount of inexperienced players who just got the game tryna make horrible comp changes is crazy. If you're not diamond you shouldn't be talking about ranked. Too many terrible ideas in this chat rn.

[pure gyro]

My controller was 200 dollars. All controllers have that after two months of playing lol I play steam and Xbox both with controller and the steam lobbies are noticeably harder.

[idle mauve]

man im gonna be honest with you, AA is too strong nowadays, especially rotational AA, that shouldn't exist in a game

[ivory jay]

Why do people complain about aim assist when whatever your playing on you can get a controller to have aim assist if it’s so broken get a controller

[crystal storm]

so why stick to an inferior way to play the game? because you wont have to actually get good when the game plays for you? Im all for it tho if controller people can stay in their own sandbox and play.

@ivory jay you mean like what happened to the apex pro scene? absolute sand eating comments up in here 😬

[hoary turtle]

Yeah I’d find that balance between too much time but invest just enough so it’s not a complete waste of your time on the off chance they just blow it off. But I’ve been wanting input based lobbies for a while. Always some argument about how aim assist doesn’t work that way. But typically coming from children that grew up on Fortnite. Nothing wrong with locking all controller players together. And people that wanna play with your friends? Get the same console! Or pick between controller or mkb! You’re lucky you don’t have to bring your controller over and plug it in at your buddies house on ps1 or Nintendo 64 ! (Good ol days)
Whether or not it gives advantage or not, I’d feel much better with accepting being murkd by another mkb player, not AA.

[fervent tree]

Higher SKILL floor and ceiling for mouse.
But not even a higher PERFORMANCE ceiling.

That's the issue, I was practically better at Apex after 20h learning controller (was taught by very experienced roller players and spent first 12 hours mainly grinding muscle memory). Last roller I used before that was NES.

I swear most roller players just don't know how to properly use the advantages of their input. Do some research into settings per-game, yes there are disadvantages to some setting which max the aim bot assist, and some play styles aren't so viable on roller, but the good roller players literally build a play style entirely around their one huge advantage of AA.

KBM and Roller should not play together in anything even pretending to be competitive.

It's like designing a race course where a go kart and F1 car can race each other and get pretty much the same lap times.... Like cool it can be done... But why?

Just why make this miserable shit show when you could have two separate things that are both far better than the mix!

[daring fossil]

right? im not diamond, I've only played a few ranked matches admittedly (mostly because I have no friends, but I also don't want to constantly play against cheaters or diamond players with the current state of MMR with bronze randoms on my team). But I have enough hours in the game (close to 500 now including alpha and all 3 betas) to form valid opinions on some things, but yeah there are some super crazy hot takes in here daily. like people saying grapple needs 2 charges, I main grapple, it would be OP with 2 charges, at most it needs 2-3 seconds taken off the cooldown.

@ivory jay there's a reason why most of the COD and APEX pros use controllers, this game will be that way eventually if they don't do something.

[rocky verge]

not really, I tried controller cus my keyboard broke and... it is too easy, while you could say movement is difficult, it still doesn't undermine the insane revolver snap, or ak tracking
I think that nerfing the aim assist would make it so that GOOD controller players are easier to tell from the bad ones. I am one of the bad ones, and I managed to score a 24 kill game, which I believe to be unreasonable. I think that if you are good at controller that should be rewarded, aim assist should carry the final mile, not the whole journey, right now there isn't much need for mechanical skills becuase the controller does it for you.
Controller players ain't bad, some of em would hit these shots withouot the aim assist, but I find it unfair that EVERY controller player can do this, making people who aren't competetive on KBM suffer an unreasonable amount, and not letting those with mechanical skills on the controller show of their prowess

[pure gyro]

I wish I had video permissions so I could share these range videos my AA not tracking the dummies at all. Unless you count my stick draft as “tracking” but that goes any way I looked last

[sharp spade]

Imma catch Ls for this but give MNK players rotational aim assist, the 1 to 1 tracking RAA gives you is impossible to keep up with, not to mention recoil reduction and snapping to the center

[shadow gyro]

meanwhile you got people doing a full 180 because of aim assist....

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/191caj7/craziest_aimlock_ive_ever_seen/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[distant storm]

yo

[final elbow]

i wonder if devs even play this game on ranked

[elfin dagger]

Hot take, remove AA completely or separate console from PC. At the end of the day, it's a genuine skill issue for you to be using AA.
You're lying to yourself if you think AA makes anything fair.(Unless we keep PC and console separated)

Anybody who uses AA and doesn't have any problem with their mobility is just not good enough yet.
If AA wasn't a thing, you'd be forced to learn how to move to your joysticks to x location at x speed just like kbm.
You're not special, you're not at a disadvantage without it, you're just lazy. Learn to actually play a game without needing assistance n you'll be respected as a good player.

[glossy hawk]

OSPUZE is my favorite sponsor and i’m very disappointed that i can’t have any of the merch just cuz i downloaded the game a few days too late :/

[polar ice]

The real issue here is players exploiting programs and hardware that give them the benefits of using a controller all the while using a MnK, turns the tides to an extreme unfair advantage, especially in the high tier ranked lobbies.

[quick coyote]

I'm late to reply but, I've never had these core issues you're ascribing to everyone. The max any of my load reaches is 65.

[earnest sierra]

ok this game really needs and must fix a lot of issues because it becomes unplayable now and im over it tbh

1-FIX YOUR SERVERS PEOPLE ARE KICKED OUT OF THE GAMES RANDOMLY FOR NO REASON I JUST LOST A ROUND 4 GAME BECAUSE I GOT KICKED FROM THE SERVER FOR ABSOLUTLY NO REASON WITH THE DAMN ERRO TGFE0002 WHAT DOES IT MEAN AND WHY IT HAPPENS???? FIX YOUR SERVERS

2- FIX THE DAMN AIM ASSIST

3-DUMB THE SHITTY EAC AND GET VANGUARD OR ANY GOOD ANTI CHEAT SOFTWARE TAHT CAN REALLY DO IT'S JOB

4-MAKE BETTER OPTIMIZATION THE GAME OPTIMIZAION IS WAY TOO BAD

5- FIX THE RANKED SYSTEM HOW SILVER ARE BEING PLACED IN DIAMIND LOOBY

[daring fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-hWZRqN74w
Cope.

@sharp spade games currently broken, you can just plug a controller in and get aim assist on m/kb apparently lol, but we shouldn't have to stoop to those levels. I purposely avoid using the most broken and over-used builds for the same reason. its cringy.

@polar ice you don't need 3rd party programs for that currently apparently. the third party programs also have anti-recoil scripts too though.

@quick coyote AMD or Intel? I've seen probably 100s of people complaining about CPU temps with this game

[flint goblet]

Don't make players lose rank points when your team only consists of 2 players.. it shouldn't be difficult, comone..

[wide spindle]

would love to play a VR game on VR

[pure gyro]

This is cheating not controller aim assist. Let’s not confuse AA with snapping cheating

[shadow gyro]

I hate to break it to ya but thats not cheating

[dusky yoke]

That is aim assist. It snaps.

[lament cave]

What’s the difference

[wide aspen]

Remove invuln after defib. One of the dumbest mechanics put into this game.

[steel peak]

me use mk aim assist problem mk vs aim assist win ?

[rapid cedar]

DaringRocker#7936 <--- this persons username in game is cheating with walls and headshot snapping

[daring fossil]

no dude, that's literally the aim assist. a cheaters crosshair would stay locked on their head throughout that entire encounter. You just validated that your opinions on the subject should be disregarded.

[final elbow]

this shit is unplayable AF. Cheater in every lobby and ppl running with no recoil on FCAR killing from end of the map on jump pad Oo. Good game but shit ppl play it.

[polar ice]

I tried to send you a lengthy DM because of the cool down to reply time on here, but it looks like you only recieve DM's from friends. Anyways, as far as AA on MnK goes, simply plugging a controller in while using MnK will not work. It used to in OB, but this issue was fixed before full release. The real problem here is the exploitation of 3rd party hardware and software. I play against the top 500 in nearly every ranked game, and I rarely get obliterated by someone just simply using a controller. It's quite obvious when someone is exploiting 3rd party software/hardware as your getting beamed across the map by a FCAR and your strafing, moving, jump padding, or on a head glitch.

[tame pivot]

no this is AA, aim snap doesn't have a breaking point so you can end up doing 180s like that

[subtle oak]

People keep arguing about aim assist…

If they change it drastically now, controller users will have to adjust and people are going to be mad.

Just add input based matchmaking. All this useless arguing in a tab thats supposed to help the game forward.

[rustic raft]

1. First thing you should fix is getting rid of all the cheaters. I feel like that is the biggest problem at the moment and it ruins the game for a lot of people. I hear people complaining about this on daily basis while playing Ranked Tournaments. I'm getting cheaters in my games every day while playing ranked, people with aimbot.
2. Second thing you should do is definitely add more game modes. It will make the game more fun and attract more people.
3. Also please add more skins. All the current skins are still from the beta, nothing new. The newest skin that came out was the Snowflake that was literally the battle pass skin but in white lol. Need more skins for everything. Need more hairstyle and more hair colors.

[pure gyro]

I took a video showing in the range that my aim assist does none of that and barely moves at all so from my perspective yall are dramatic cry babies for dieing. I’m more then happy to show you the video but your dms don’t work and I don’t have permissions to post them here

[sharp spade]

I want input based matchmaking as well, but pc players will be able emulate a controller and play against console players, aim assist needs to be disabled on PC as well as input based matchmaking in order for it to work

[elfin fiber]

"all this useless arguing in a tab thats supposed to help the game forward"

Clearly the issue is important for the game to move forwards, if they want to retain players that is

[rocky verge]

@pure gyro

[misty monolith]

nha you cant just plug in a controller and get aim assist that doesnt work. Atleast not as far as ive tested

[daring fossil]

those are obvious to me too, especially at long ranges. But the aim assist is still an issue without 3rd party tools. No skill roller players using 2% of their thought power should not be out playing me with very little input.

@subtle oak the arguing proves there's a problem, and is still feedback in one way or another.

@pure gyro copium

[red python]

Formal Request

Dear Embark,

My time as a player here has been exquisite, I have come to quite enjoy the fine company and experiences here in the last few months, however, I have but one gripe to levy against you…

aye bruh, fishnets wen, tryna make my heavy absolutely cranked at the club

[quick coyote]

i have no investment in this conversation, but im a console player and choose to turn off aim assist in any fps because it actively harms your ability to target. if anyone cuts through your LOS during a firefight, the aim assist will re-prioritize to the new factor. it also causes missed shots on an enemy crouch or jump. snapping targets is a different setting than aim assist in the finals, and at the end of the day this whole discussion should revolve around PC only. controllers are leagues harder to use than the point-and-click adventures PC players are accustomed to, and though i dont use aim assist, id never talk down on a console user who does.

[quick coyote]

AMD. Friends with Intel don't have the issue either. All in all, it's probably dependent on other factors of peoples setups (hardware, settings, other applications) conflicting with something the finals is doing.

You cannot plug a controller in and get AA with your mouse. Input from your mouse disables all controller functions/input and vice versa. It's third party software and mixers allowing that. You don't seem to know about much you complain about here lol.

[polar ice]

Like every competitive game, people always want to compare and complain about an input method that they don't use. As a controller player on every game except for the finals, I saw the clear advantage of MnK on this game and have made the switch nearly a year ago during closed beta... I know I sound like a broken record. But they need to address the cheating/3rd party software and hardware before they do any tuning to classes and AA, etc.

[frozen harness]

i have a problem in ps5 whenever i launch the game i cant search for a game i keep getting errors + all the numbers appear as question marks can someone help

[worn horizon]

we need more skins, otherwise i cant give you money embark

[daring fossil]

Ok so not "everyone" but I've seen hundreds of comments about high CPU temps without high CPU usage with this game, the steam forums is full of threads about it too, mostly intel I7 and I9 12-14 gen users (im 13th gen I7)

RE:aim assist on controller. I haven't tested it, I've just seen dozens of people state that you get aim assist on kb/m just by plugging in a controller. I even said APPARENTLY in my message regarding it and said I haven't tried it, and I never once complained about kb/m using aim assist, just aim assist in general, and the use of 3rd party programs like rewasd.

way to be ignorant though. slow clap

[rocky verge]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-this-this-reaction-reaction-gif-this-gif-gif-14484082
Embark, I might die, this is my final wish

[polar ice]

Bro please remove the name of the program. You never know who might not know already, and fall to temptation and go download it. 🙏

[hasty ore]

Let us know if your friends are playing, how much time is left for his game end, and if it's already on a party with people.

[daring fossil]

I want the black skirt with the thigh highs that they had in beta for the halloween event 😦 the same skirt with fishnets would be fucking dope too though.

@polar ice it's been posted on here 10,000 times already, one more comment about it isn't going to make a difference. A mod already said anyone abusing third party tools and anti-recoil scripts are going to be banned, and the tool itself is getting blacklisted.

[broken lake]

please remove the name of the program, like someone else already said. Don't wanna give em free publicity.

[olive kayak]

@quick coyote I got a weird situation to do with a cheater and created a ticket hours ago but still havent heard anything. who do i chat to about it. needs to be something where i can share videos

[quick coyote]

Just wait. We've got a lot of tickets to go through

[polar ice]

Aside from negative aspects, I think some positive creative suggestions could be nice.
As someone who has been an active discord member, follower, and fan of this game for around a year and a half. I think devs really have something great with the whole sponsorship aspect of this game. As a reward for being a top competitor, I think players should be offered sponsorships (solely speaking in game and not irl) from the sponsor's like ospuze or volpe. Being able to rock sponsorship specific gear and skins would be GREAT. Please lmk what you guys think.

[gilded beacon]

Need a gamemodes sugestions channel on Discord

[sharp spade]

free for all cashout

[daring fossil]

agreed, the game show aspect should be a bigger part of the game. being able to pick a specific sponsor and get access to gear from that sponsor as a result would be cool (even though I have all the ospuze stuff from OB and don't use any of it). Having a highlights reel at the end of the match (especially in ranked if you are waiting for the other matches to finish). More interactivity from the crowd besides just cheering. Maybe after a sick play they can throw confetti down around where the fight took place, or empty cans/garbage (for the opposing fans)

@fervent tree the dummies don't work differently, I've seen so many clips of people showing off the aim assist tracking in the range.

[pure gyro]

In one of the videos you can see I start out in the settings and all of it is on. I’m not lying

[olive kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/daddy-hell-yeah-gif-21723245

[stable oyster]

Bad performance/ Bad Balancing/ Bad Movement / Cheaters (srsly what are the devs doing rn?)

[pure verge]

aim assist has successfully been tuned in every competitive game, just like it will be in this one. Once they fix the matchmaking, this will be way easier to tune... and people will still cry about rollers despite 95% of the pc players sticking with mnk

[amber compass]

Its broken in apex and cod so no its not successfully tuned at all

[gilded beacon]

My sugestions are FFA Death match⚔️, Search and Destroy💣, Infection🧟 and some kind of Gun Game🔫 type mode

[marsh fractal]

more unlockable camos would be nice

[quick coyote]

check your DMs kid, i sended you video with aimbot aim asist that everyone uses on mouse and keyboard.

[daring fossil]

I posted a video talking about it and showing dozens of clips, and someone else posted 3 videos showing the tracking in the range, you just conveniently ignored, and the one video you did comment on you said that guy was hacking lol.

@pure verge like I said earlier, there's a reason most of the top players in COD, APEX and I guess even Halo Infinite use a controller ON PC.

@gilded beacon I agree the game needs more game modes, but I don't think FFA would be any fun unless there are FFA queues for each contestant type. An actual TDM would be nice though, even capture the flag since the mechanics already exist in cashout.

[buoyant bloom]

Some things I'd like to see: setting to have point distances always displayed, being able to choose favourites for maps and their variations so youre more likely to play them

[fiery harness]

remove stun gun ffs

[pure gyro]

People will always complain about aim assist because they need an excuse for when they lose their 1v1. Input based matchmaking would fix this issue but then I wouldn’t be able to play with my mnk friends which would kinda blow. Steam lobbies are harder anyways. I purposely solo q console lobbies lcause it’s easier
And @daring fossil yeah I’ve seen the videos people make of it looking really bad and I agree in those videos it does look bad but when I go into the firing range and do the same things they do I don’t get that experience. I don’t know if those videos are fake. All I know is my experience and what I see in the range compared to those videos. Idk if they’re old or fake but I know mine are real so from my perspectives, as you can see in the videos that tipsy shared in here it’s not snapping aim bot

[acoustic edge]

Idea to fix the current nuke situation without affecting other aspects of the game:
Make C4 explosive damage not stack (calculate damage per detonation trigger, rather than per C4 stick)

• This will make it so nukes with 2 C4 attached can only do max of 1 C4 stick damage, which makes it not a oneshot in most situations.
• Wont affect any other usecase of C4 as damage spread will be the same

[polar ice]

Yea bro. Your definitely on to something here. I wish they created a creative suggestion tab for some really great things that they could add to the game. There is soooo much more potential to this game... also, adding live streams of top tier ranked gameplay to the finals website. Featuring like an esports aspect an AI commentary to the tournament... also the ability to continue to spectate the tournament if you are knocked out.

[fleet coral]

Do devs ever respond?

[midnight sierra]

i played on ps5 for a few days to test the "broken" tracking. the aim assist snaps on for 0.5 seconds and completely shuts off. forcing you to track and control recoil on your own.

as another kbm player, if this is whats classified as "no mechanical skill" to yall then good luck playing warzone lmaoo. tho i will say this type of assist should not be on certain guns like the sniper since tracking is not as important there

[gilded beacon]

More Guns

[rocky verge]

don't even bring up mw2/3 ;-;
I kinda figured this out, but each of these add a bit of aim assist
shooting
moving
ads

@amber compass flick the c4 or sum
(or shoot it out of their hands for an instakill)

[amber compass]

nerf c4 barrel this game is so ass rn how is this not hot fix nerfed its so broken @rocky verge or nerf it like it should be

[slim karma]

I wanna know everyones opinion since people seem torn, is cloak genuinely overpowered?

[daring fossil]

I just launched the game with my controller turned on for the first time ever (I never use controller for FPS games) and within 3 seconds I could already feel the aim assist tugging at my crosshair (with default controller settings)

@midnight sierra you have to strafe to keep the aim assist engaged, and you barely have to move your thumb to keep your target in your crosshair while doing so. I'm in the range right now trying it, you guys are full of shit. If you run towards a dummy with your crosshair off the the side, and slide past him while ADSing, you will turn 180 degrees. No other game has aim assist this strong. you can just spam ADS over and over and it will keep you on target too.

After trying it (as someone who only uses controller for 3rd person RPG's and side scrollers) I'm even more disgusted how easy it was to hit shots.

Ok I'll configure my shadowplay to not record in high quality so I can actually record a postable video to shut you idiots up

[zinc dune]

@daring fossil its a game for casual controller kids

[shadow mountain]

Any word on private lobbies? Be great to play with large groups of friends.

[pure gyro]

This is my experience as well. I’m in the range now sliding by dummies while aiming down sights and I have no idea what dude is talking about

[spice stag]

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/1L7bioEIwXc_3J/d1337WVScX64?invite=cr-MSxkdlAsNDcyMDY5NSw

[boreal wagon]

Probably the best feeling FPS I've played in years but by far the worst balanced game I've every played in my life
Sucks that a great game is ruined by an incompetant balance team

Its so fun playing anything else than recon senses and just being prefired around every corner you take by the 7 recon senses medium abusers in the game and there is literally no counter play to it

if you think the afk and look at eachother through walls until someone commits to a fight is fun, enjoy the game but that is probably the worst game loop I've ever played in my life

[fiery harness]

cant believe how someone could leave their game in a state like this for weeks

[buoyant bloom]

really cool idea they kinda tested a unlock system like that for equipment in the betas

[midnight sierra]

this is probably the only thing about aim assist tracking that should be more fine tuned (besides taking it off of snipers and whatnot lol), it should snap but NOT track on its own at that range just like it does at mid-long ranges.

@daring fossil can you record a video of you doing that 180 snap and aim assist tracking on moving targets? my test was without touching the right stick at all since ppl were saying the game "aims for u" like how it used to in black ops games. im not a controller player so i wouldnt know, just trying to objectively look at how it actually is and how they can tweak it to be more fair

(actually just saw the video lol, the gun u just tested it on is the exact type of gun that i mentioned the target snap assist shouldnt be on. also it still doesnt show the 180 degree snap and track that u mentioned, ur just moving along with ur target so naturally ur going to be aligned just like u would on kbm.

the second video kinda shows a turnaround but obviously it only does that because you cant do 180s that fast on controller without 10000 sensitivity. it doesnt even turn around to align with the target lmao, it just moves near it and still requires tracking input to confirm the kill.)

[daring fossil]

first video is me pulling the crosshair away from the dummy, and then ADSing (not touching the right stick), the second video is me sliding passed the dummy and ADSing (not touching the right stick) the 3rd video, the second time I killed the medium dummy, I didn't even touch my right-thumbstick

[fringe pilot]

It's nice to have the game aim for you, takes the pressure off

[wheat forge]

buff gas, expand fire hitfire spread, melee buff, dagger buff, turrent nerf, stun gun bug fix and buff fscar magazine increase (like 5 more bullets)

[quick coyote]

QoL improvement:

Add a "Duplicate" button in the "Contestants" section when selecting a character.

Because reassembling a set of skins from different parts in different subparagraphs is soooo much fun

[midnight sierra]

cooldown timer is mad long on this channel 💀 but im currently testing this myself in the range. tbh if this was a very short ttk game like CoD then id agree with this approach being broken. but this game is so reliant on tracking and recoil control that i cant really say it is for most guns, it just shouldnt be on guns like the sniper where it doesnt require tracking to confirm any kill.

objectively speaking if it was a near black ops situation where it entirely tracks and controls recoil for u then id agree, but in a game like this i understand why it only does the snap and shuts off in the tracking part. ig the fix is to just remove or reduce the snap on sniper, shotgun, and guns like the sort since they dont require tracking input lmaoo. just thoughts from a kbm player

[noble nimbus]

does anyone know where embarks office is based? timezone? was hoping for a game announcement today addressing some issues

[quaint frost]

I love the game very fun keep it up

[daring fossil]

I got a cool down, probably for swearing. The aim assist is hella broken (especially with the sniper). Like I said, I'm even more disgusted now that I've tried it. As a non-controller user (rarely even use it for non-fps games), its frankly disgusting how easily I can acquire a target and keep it on them with very little effort.

It sure got quiet in here on the debate after posting videos.

@midnight sierra the aim assist also has recoil-smoothing when you are following a target horizontally, so if I went medium with the ak, as long as I am counter-moving in the opposite direction of the target and tracking, there's next to no recoil

[green widget]

Is this a thing in other multiplayer** FPS? I haven't played console in some time

[fringe pilot]

Any rational person could tell you that controller has an unfair assist here.
Either don't let controller players play with/against MnK or massively tune this busted garbage down.

Can't tell you how many times I'm moving erratically/jumping/dashing and get domed by some controller player or someone using reWASD

[visual cargo]

فيه عرب ؟

[verbal mountain]

Could you add mouse support in Ps5?

[safe turtle]

Does anyone know how long they take to respond to a support ticket on their website ? Been unable to play for about a week and heard nothing back

[quaint frost]

“Aim assist is broken” says the guy who barely touches controller (aim assist does need slight nerfs but it’s no where near as big of an issue as you guys are making out)

[daring fossil]

recoil smoothing, im not pulling down at all, just pushing slighting to the right. It actually does like negative recoil and causes shots to lower. admittedly, longer range stationary targets are harder to hit, but I don't use a controller.

@quaint frost the fact that I don't use a controller and can acquire targets and stay there, and hit quick scopes with no problem just proves it's broken dummy.

[midnight sierra]

ahh i just tested what u said about the ak in ur edit. yeah ur right with the ak recoil getting removed when moving in the opposite direction, i have no idea why that was added since its not a hard recoil pattern to control.

they should definitely remove the recoil reduction that moving gives on controller, even the heavy guns have hella easy recoil patterns and i can control them with all aim assists off 💀

[rocky verge]

big solution to barrel: more c4 is more heavy, and reduce AOE of explosives on barrels

[sudden badge]

Any ETA on when embark will address the cheating problem

[quick coyote]

it got quiet because this discussion has been taking place for 6 hours now.

recoil smoothing during strafe is a game bug/mechanic (?) that works with all of the aim assist options turned off.

also cool clips now see how much of an advantage it gives you against real humans that arent either standing still or strafing at a constant pace in one direction

[indigo condor]

When they get back from vacation probably

[glad ginkgo]

A bunch of wack ass crybabies as far as the eye can see

[tame pivot]

you mean like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/18j5r9w/rotational_aim_assist_needs_to_be_addressed_0ms/

[eager vine]

I've never ever encountered a single cheater in game 🤷‍♂️

[sharp belfry]

that you know of

[daring fossil]

yeah recoil smoothing works regardless of aim assist, but I'm pretty sure it's controller only. (could be wrong though, but i dont notice it with mouse)

I don't play with a controller like I've said a dozen times, I have an older friend (like late 50s) who is absolute shit at shooters, he moves slow, he turns slow, spectating him is actually painful, it's like watching a sloth process information, but he frequently gets 10 kills a match with controller and his actual aiming "skill" is non-existent.

@tame pivot you can actually see that he only adjusts his aim for a split second right near the end of that first fight. so stupid.

@quick coyote I'm not waiting 12 minutes to respond to that, what do you think "apparently" means after I already said previously I hadn't tried it.

[midnight sierra]

ahh yeah its definitely a bug, the recoil gets removed even aiming outside of targets when doing the strage for some reason. hope they fix that

[quick coyote]

games currently broken, you can just plug a controller in and get aim assist on m/kb apparently lol
You said you get it by plugging it in, not that you just saw someone else say it. "Apparently" does not mean this here. You're stating it as if its true (its not).

[hard wasp]

Recon sense has to go out of the game or have it's duration severely hindered.
What is the point of multi level buildings or stealth or flashbangs when people always use this ability? It goes against the whole idea of assaulting a point through weird angles. People can still hear you walk or hear your stealth or whatnot...it makes melee weapons even harder to play than they already are.
Around plat4+ all mediums spam this ability even 2 in the same team and it's cringe.

[willow laurel]

Kinda agree, i didn't touched a roller on an FPS game since my 12 playing time splitters on gamecube (banger game btw). I just tried roller in training out of curiosity, I felt the aim assist and yes it snaps to target, it even deterred me from aiming my actual target switching to the other dummie when they crossed each other BUT for god's sake I would be nowhere as comfortable in movement + aiming as I am right now with kb+m, I'll leave this for the sweaty performers and stay with my "underperforming" hardware I guess

[neon rune]

Environmental barrels should explode in like two shots, would add some decent counterplay with nukes

[languid raven]

First learned of recoil smoothing from this video (as it applies to M&KB): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N92idbGPEeQ

[quick coyote]

is this guy using a controller? does he have outside applications on in those clips? ive never had this kind of tracking using a controller on console with aim assist. have you?

[tame pivot]

I've seen plenty of streamers have similar result yes

[livid bone]

Nerf rpg

[polar ice]

I'm a diamond medium and rarely get killed by nukes. Why? Cuz I run around with an APS turret and can deploy it on the ground quicker than the nuke can get to me unless I turn a corner and I'm within 3 feet of the heavy... people just need to learn how to counter and use they're brains.

[buoyant bloom]

make the pull tab charm a little bigger pls as a treat 🙏🏾

[daring fossil]

you can clearly see that he's using a controller by the prompts on the screen and the way he looks around when he's not fighting and the constant turn rate. outside applications don't improve aim assist tracking, I don't know why people think they do (unless it's straight up cheats), outside programs like the ones people are abusing (that aren't cheats injecting into the game) just let you spoof a controller with kb/m (which he clearly isn't doing) and run anti-recoil scripts.

[formal river]

you hvaent played many games then. i agree there are some balancing issues but to act like there's some giant chasm between everything is just silly. there are outliers, yes. recon is in fact stupid though. so is c4. so is invis. every class has at least one of these 🙂

before you call someone incompetent, maybe you should spell it correctly?

[radiant falcon]

please make glass more visible

[harsh trail]

day 17 of asking for a throwing knives balance patch/bug fix to make them a viable weapon option

[toxic grail]

Game Mod Idea:

INFECTION

Game consists of surviving for 5 min(time tbd)

All but one player starts off as a medium class with one gun and two gadgets(tbd)

The Infected player can either choose the light class or the heavy class
The infected can use their respected melee but their health is for:
Light=100 and Heavy=175
The Infected Speed is 1.15x faster for both heavy and light

Can use only use their weapons and one gadget, and they can use their abilities

Abilities Reworked For This Gamemode:
Light:
-Invis makes the player not be able to run
-Dash has a longer cooldown
-Grapple has louder noise/possibly less range
Medium:
-Healing beam is same heal but shorter time until overheat
-Turret has very slow turning speed
-Recon get only about 50ish meters of range
Heavy:
-Speed run is shorter
-Shield is lower health
-Goo only has 5 shots(tbd)

Map:
-There are random jump pads on the roofs that spawn and dispawn every 10 seconds
-Dark time map, with light fog
-Infected Spawns are every 5 seconds about 150 meters from the player
-Single Heal Boxes around the map, that when cashed in can allow the normal players a heal continuously for 10 seconds to be back lost health (tbd for this heal box)

Let me know what yall think?????????

[split pumice]

it would be cool to be able to name different contestants

[neon rune]

If a strategy is able to oneshot all classes, all classes should be able to have some sort of counterplay. Consider that your argument for countering this strategy is using Medium and running APS turret, sure it won't affect you much, but what about the other classes, or anyone not running APS turret? Both heavy and light are doomed to explode because it takes half a mag to explode a canister? Also consider that you're a Diamond player, you have the reaction speed to pop down a turret while there's a nuke being lobbed at your face, but that's a lot to ask of newer/less skilled players, meanwhile it takes much less skill than that to throw a nuke. Nukes should still be a viable option, don't get me wrong, i love that this game has creative interactions with different combinations of items. But, making a canister explode in a few shots would level the playing field, pose more risk to the heavy with the nuke (as it could explode while they're holding it) and would encourage skillful and strategic use of nukes instead of just starting a fight with one because there's no potential punishment for doing so. There needs to be risk/reward factors for such powerful strategies.

[quick coyote]

My suggestion is to nerf the medium turret It is sometimes very unsportsmanlike how much damage it causes to you My other suggestion would be gas masks, the poison bombs are really playing a good role in the game, but in every game you can't get points because of this poison that is on the point.A gas mask would be great to improve this experience, another serious thing if there was a healing tank like the fire and gas tank, this tank would heal 35 life or 45 serious life It would be interesting to keep more people alive and competing for points

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E T H A N K S

[modern wedge]

when you cap vrs you can exchange them for multibux (15 per cap)

[sudden moat]

Any chance we can change the color of purple team when you go into colorblind mode? I have died SO many times because I didnt realise they were purple and not blue.

[rocky verge]

Make grenade launcher (heavy) thunk thunk sound more like thunk thunk or kuthunk kuthunk

[glass kite]

WHY AIMING HAS TO COVER HALF THE SCREEN WTF?

[neon rune]

Yeah team colors should definitely be customizable

[slender echo]

My name is changes to contestant and wont go back to original (in the game ) can anyone help ?

[obsidian solar]

Melee tracking is absolutely terrible in this game, i have trouble hitting people literally in my face, this is horrible, they need to improve it

[ionic hedge]

You are the Blue man 🤦🏻

[willow laurel]

maybe reconnect to the embark id website ? (and restart your game)

[fallen epoch]

has there been any suggestion as to what we can do with the earnable tokens after everything is unlocked and 3000/3000 collected? would be nice to be able to use them for something or converted into v-creds etc.

[midnight raven]

After 70+ hours, I really enjoy the game. Despite many inconsistencies/issues I’m impressed by the overall quality. The items, destruction and high speed gameplay absorbed me for many hours, also during OB.

However, there are 3 things that need to be fixed ASAP:

• Performance. I don’t know why it dropped so hard after OB. And its really a problem, since now people get at least 2x less fps
• Cheaters plague. Pretty self explanatory, and infuriating for ranked grinders.
• Balance. Heavies have unbeatable setup consisting of C4, RPG and Dome Shield, the biggest problem being C4 Nukes, able to oneshot entire teams, and RPG that singlehandedly makes Light class almost unplayable in ranked. These are two of the most overpowered gadgets since they don’t really have any efficient counterplay. There are a lot more tweaks needed to be made (lewis gun smashes m60 in almost every aspect, throwing knives and riot shield are hardly playable, invisibility/recon senses can be absurdly strong), but nerfing C4 and RPG should be top priority.

[scarlet rampart]

[slender echo]

@willow laurel how can do it

[quick coyote]

Make enemy gadgets the same colour as the team that deploys them. Deployed shields SHOULD NOT BE all Red/Orange. It should be the colour of the team that deploys it. If Orange throws a shield it should be Orange.

[wet tide]

A cool game mode idea could be one cashout with 50k already in it in the centre of the map (something like the cathedral at monaco or skyway with high rise) and teams would steal the cash but it would slowly drain out of the cashout into their bank and first team to reach 25k or something wins. Lmk whag you guys think

[modern wedge]

agreed its not the worst but it definitely needs a lot of work

[rocky verge]

Explosions should sound more juicy pretty please, they kinda sound like something shattering instead (namely for grenade launcher on heavy)

[quick coyote]

they need to ban c4s on barrels, it should just not allow u to place it on it

[scarlet grove]

turret needs nerf it shouldnt lock on through smokes and bushes

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E T H A N K S

[proud locust]

light hp should be increase from 150 to 175 for a little survivability

[knotty breach]

Just having all of the bundles in the store would be nice, it was odd finding out that some can only be accessed by viewing individual skins and accessories

[midnight sierra]

remove the match timer from practice range pls 😭

[glossy scaffold]

add text chat

[earnest sierra]

yop

@short trout just keep opening the game it happened to me and i just kept opening it till it opened idk why it happenes but whatever

[tribal plank]

Embark, you desperately need to fix this game. The cheese strats people are using are so annoying

[quick coyote]

Need collab with Vavle
Give me Tf2 skin
And portal gun gadget

[amber rapids]

does voice chat just simply not work some games?

[polar ice]

you definitely make some solid points with your argument, but cant a glitch grenade do the same thing? every class does have a counter to a nuke. its just having the proper team comp and expecting to ALWAYS go against a heavy with a nuke, because at this point thats really all they are good for.

[marsh oriole]

my mind cant grasp the '' not patcing the game for 20 days'' idea

[vivid hatch]

Vavle

[slate marsh]

Change competitive so people can't spam the same class should be mandatory. One class each team.

[proud locust]

[valid night]

at least give 50 rpm back to lh1 plz😭

[drowsy shell]

Stealing this from a comment I saw on the reddit and posting here in the hopes a dev might see it:

unlockable 🎵 CUSTOM CASHOUT THEMES 🎵 would go so hard 🙏

[desert nebula]

idk maybe cap at 2 or smth cus with only 3 classes itll get annoying and we know people will make instalock softwares, hell its already a thing in other games

[oak kernel]

Honestly, infection would slap

[rose surge]

Is the dev team doing anything about the reWASD exploit? I see tons of players using it now. It's really easy to detect... Why won't they fix it?

[thin silo]

Are there any plans to improve the defib UX? Its such a miserable experience to use.

[broken lake]

It'd be nice if you could increase the speed of the throwing knives. Both the speed at which they come out and the distance they can go without dropping.

It would also be nice to be able to hold the alt fire with them, as currently it feels far too unrewarding.

[kindred pine]

Add VC channels in the discord👌🏻

[fathom jay]

Add camos for challenges

[noble nimbus]

add a new statement in the game announcements because I thought they were back to work today lol

[pseudo briar]

they getting sued no time for game

[slate marsh]

What are they getting sued for?

[desert nebula]

they should do a custom skin event where everyone has the oppurtunity to post a skin design to three sperate channels with 3 themes, after the ___ amount of time is up a tourneyment style of voting will happen via both or smth then 3 new skins will be added

[worldly obsidian]

they should add the ability to change binds and see button prompts for mnk on console since they already allow you to use mnk on console

[wind cloak]

They should add more weapons and attachments

[proud locust]

[hollow dune]

👀

[quick coyote]

Fan-created skins is a great idea
Letting the community vote on which ones to actually use is a bad, bad idea, my friend. The internet will choose the offensive meme option every single time. Me included.

[lapis pollen]

dagger dagger dagger, I'm still wait for dagger buff

[slate marsh]

I really don't know.

[slow moon]

Jfc the moving platform objectives have to be the biggest aids I've seen in a obj game

[daring fossil]

elevator cashouts are worse imo

[summer dagger]

As someone who is aware of 4chans experience on the topic I agree

[hexed notch]

Weapon attachments and make a buff instead of fat version of heavy HAHA please

[stable rampart]

me and my friends were just talking about that

[light nimbus]

• Firing Range With Teammates!
  I would REALLLLY love to be able to go to the firing range with my party before a match so we can practice different strats together and test emotes and weapons and just get some funny clips for content creation.

• Retain Audio When Out of Focus!
  Currently when I don't have the game in focus the audio mutes. It would be really nice to have an option to keep the audio consistently ON so I can hear when a match is about to start.

• NO HUD option!
  currently you can only press F12 to remove HUD in matches but NOT in the Firing Range. Being able to do it in the firing range would be a huge win for content creators much like myself.

Thanks! 🙂

[lethal stone]

I think custom matches would be cool where you could like 3v3 with friends or do a 3v3 mode

[strange lotus]

Bombouncer achievement- In Steam the achievement stated that eliminate an opponent by bouncing a "Granade" on a jump pad. Obviously, we need to use the medium character for this but the way that I am killing my opponent is with the CL-40 which is a grenade launcher I have killed 3 different opponents in 3 different matches and it is not counting the achievement. So I come here to ask if it is a bug that is not counting or if I need to kill my opponents with "Frag grenades" If so please clarify it on Steam since it just says "Granade".

[slow moon]

Yeah but at least you can drop from the top to the hatch throw in some nades or mines and easy take

[hollow dune]

🧠

[rose surge]

When I random Q, I have like a 5-10% win rate, but when I have a team, it jumps to almost 50%. I think there needs to be a game mode for people who don't wanna play with a team in a VC. Some people just wanna chill by themselves. Maybe a randoms only mode.

[mossy mist]

Would love to see currency rewards tied more to match performance as opposed to time in the match

[rapid pike]

Is this the place to give feedback? If so please redesign the invisibility. Ideas are like:

1. Have something like an Activation Cooldown of 5-7 seconds (going in and out of invisibility happens too quickly)
2. When activated it could have a light trail for 1 second and loud enough sound so that any enemies nearby would know both when and where it is activated (telegraphing is too weak atm)

It is fun to have cool strats but when they have no clear drawbacks or limitation they can become unstoppable.
For example pared with shot gun it effectively removes ANY of the reload mechanics on the shotgun that balances it, having these suggestion (or similar changes in spirit) implemented would hopefully at least keep some of the balance.

[jovial bluff]

make kbm compatible wit ps5 how it compatible wit xbox but not ps5

[potent wasp]

I would like to see a couple of things

1. The game currency not limited to 3000.
2. The light build has to be nerfed in almost everything, especially if you are playing with a sword and invisibility, just broken
3. Cool down time could be reduced if you, or the team just spawned farway from the vault of cahsout.

But overall I think it´s and amazing game, I'm hooked to this.

[regal sorrel]

Crashes occur when a full team uses grenade launchers

[coral mesa]

wait so built-in monitor crosshairs will get you banned now?

[daring fossil]

how would they detect that? is embark sending people to your home to look at your monitor? crosshair overlays are supposed to be bannable, but everyones using them anyways judging by clip compilations

[noble mist]

Just fix the sights Embark.

[warped flume]

No reason my crosshair is moving on my screen, such an easy fix. Give more options to customize they like they do in valorant or something

[languid ridge]

The sight is supposed to move during dramatic movements, it adds realism and prevents rlly wierd strats, jus use an on screen crosshair from ur pc if it rlly bugs u that much

[quick coyote]

General changes:

• Add an auto-spawn option, so that we don't have to spam the Space Bar to respawn: It'd be useful during those moments when your team is in an intense fight, and can be the difference between a team wipe vs. 1 guy on your team respawning just in time.

Light changes:

• Make the Light V9S pistol automatic? I hate spamming left-click on my mouse - it shortens the life spans on my mouse! I don't think the pistol is OP but if full auto does do that, there an be a very very slight dmg nerf. Seems to add fake difficulty to me. I didn't spam left-click fast enough shouldn't be something to think about when losing a gun fight. The Heavy auto shotgun (SA1216) lets you fire full auto just by holding down left-click. It's not a big deal because of recoil at longer ranges.
• Do not nerf the sword! It's fun! And do not nerf the stun gun or double-barrel shotgun! The DB shotgun is a high-risk high-reward weapon that's good for people with good close-range aim tracking and positioning.
• Buff throwing knives. Buff dagger to 1-hit backstab kill Heavy
• Improve Grappling Hook and Evasive Dash - Cloak is far better right now. Just way more versatile and flexible, and really good at keeping Light alive and ambushing.
• Why isn't the C4 nuke with the Light's breach charge as good as the Heavy nuke? Maybe buff the explosive radius and damage for the breach charge, lol

Medium changes:

• Buff Defib, Defib + heal after revive (or not, some Mediums don't use the heal gun) isn't that much better compared to just doing the manual revive to full health
• Buff R.357 revolver and ESPECIALLY buff Riot Shield
• Buff tracking dart. It's useless right now.

Heavy changes:

• Buff grenade launcher (M32 GL) and Sledgehammer. Maybe increase Flamethrower range
• I don't see Heavy players use the M60 much, idk if that needs to be changed.
• Goo gun is awful and horrendous. No one uses it

[maiden frigate]

stupid shit that needs to be fixed asap : the doors

[shell lion]

Keyboard and mouse ps5🙏😭

[gray sedge]

But why are you replying to my suggestion about adding vr aupport....

[flat pawn]

thirmal vision needs a bug fix, it dose not work half the time

[haughty dune]

remove recon wallhacks and replace with buffed defibs

[thorny crypt]

apparenlty thats bannable lol

add more customization to crosshair, they basically unusable, a sharpie to screen is more useful than the ingame crosshair, especially cause it shoots on center of screen and not crosshair.

[daring fossil]

pretty sure this is day 4 in a row with this shit daily (its not hard, it's just annoying that I have to do it every damn day)

[worthy helm]

and its funny how 100% opacity on crosshair is still very transparent like its 80% opacity

[noble mist]

Goo gun has a ton of potential. It's a really powerful tool for securing areas can also be used to stick fleeing opponents, and traverse the map. A cool buff would be making the right click consume 5 ammo and made a goo grenade sized wall, that way you could dump the clip in 4 spots and make a whole fckn house around a spot.

[earnest tide]

the goo gun needs to be changed to not effect teammates, random trolls using the goo gun just shoot their teammates feet and u can't do anything back to stop them cause theyre on ur team they just fucking goo ur feet or goo the room ur standing in forcing u to shoot urway out.

[rain ocean]

We've had the same dailies for at least 3 days in a row, yesterday's was the same as today but in a different order, same with the day before

[grave sierra]

wish we could inspect weapon skins with their own custom viewmodel animations, like the short 1887, or the bitty dagger skin, i wanna know what their animations look like as well

[median verge]

can we change the colors on the clothes and customize the

[formal sphinx]

Nerf throwing knives. They’re not hard to aim when someone just lowers their sensitivity and do too much damage.

[haughty dune]

its not that bad, 1 game or less than game, usualy 1st or 3rd battle and its done, i have 5k healing chall thats cant be done coz of bugged healing gun, my healing gun does nothing when press to heal soo i dont even play that class medium anymore

[vague shale]

When will they roll out steam deck support man. been far too long ever since the finals alpha....

[upper citrus]

bro has never tried using throwing knives. they do less dps than any light gun

[valid jackal]

Can we get kill cam ?

[bold estuary]

i think the fcar should have more bullets because I always get mediums and heavies down to like 30hp (all head or body shots) then they always got the upper hand and i die

[daring fossil]

this, I kinda wanna buy the receipt printing mac11 skin (even though I rarely use it) but I can't preview if it has custom animations (I assume for $8 that it does though)

@haughty dune it's not hard, I just hate doing it every day. I don't even keep sonars on my reserve. did you try deleting your medium and making a new one?

[arctic acorn]

I one clip heavies and mediums on the regular. Doubt you're getting all head or all body. Especially against Med. FCAR is perfectly fine the way it is. And thats coming from a low skilled player that's just an FCAR enjoyer.

[twilit lily]

Don't miss your bullets and that won't happen. Fcar can 1 clip everyone with EASE. Even heavies if you sprinkle in just a few headshots you'll end with 3-4 bullets leftover. It's supposed to be mainly a 1v1 gun, it does suck however when you need to kill more than 1 person close together. Because in that case, unless its two lights, you are going to get stuck reloading. But I honestly think ammo count is fine unless they also turn down DPS in exchange. Again, already 1 clips every class with plenty of ammo left over (besides heavy having only 3-5 depending on HS ratio)

[exotic parrot]

Add a death cam replay feature!!

[coral mesa]

+1 Kill Cam feature

[dire ice]

Enjoying the "SYSTEM INTEGRITY" errors every other game. Why does is it take me to waste, nearly half a day finding every fix for this Anti-Cheat issue, for it not to help in any way and I'm still getting the errors. I'm getting sick of it! Fundamentally for a good handful of players, this is totally game breaking in every word imaginable! Freezes, crashes and worst of all sometimes not even being able to get on the game till after 3-4 launches. This isn't on!

[lapis jackal]

separate rank for each class?

[brisk bramble]

There is a glitch that I need help with 1. When I hover over the play button it is purple and I can’t click on it and 2. When I bought multi bucks it stole my money but didn’t get the multibicks. I am mad

[hazy marsh]

why isnt the lights c4 as good as the heavies? idk man what does more damage, 1 brick of c4 or two

[proud locust]

use all of the c4 use all of it

[formal sphinx]

Bro doesn’t know what theyre talking about.

[haughty dune]

good point, will try that tomo

[upper citrus]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17oI_V64feUYkiHrT5YGFE6kNGTCvfNaNiUiwrk9IITc/edit#gid=655924873 here u go. knives have the worst ttk out of all the light weapons

[daring fossil]

throwing knives are strong, but very hard to use well, and slow throw animations (why they have low DPS) with terrible spread when moving/airborn and a terribly short range making them not very viable. I still have fun with them on occasion. right-click can one-shot lights and mediums too (I think)

[sick mulch]

i agree, throwing knives are just meme weapons that are fun to use and you feel cool playing them but they're not built for anything more than casual gameplay]

[quick coyote]

They need to adjust the turret hitbox because it's so janky at the moment; you can be shooting right at it & somehow it still takes ages to destroy. Tried using glitch grenades to counter them, but because of the hitbox they're still annoying to deal with.

[kindred nest]

thanks for this legend

[cloud forge]

Hey I think there should be more skins in the game. I know it just released but I feel like having a library almost like CSGO would be epic. I’d love to design some or even have a page for others to submit ideas. It could be a great community thing to have monthly skins picked out of community commissions or smt? Just think that would be nice. If this isn’t a thing already, where should I submit this idea for the skins? I have tons of skin ideas I want to sketch up

[daring fossil]

can we get the ballerina outfit split into 2 parts? I want to wear the top without the tutu

[pure gyro]

Bro you need to tutu to be good

[ionic ginkgo]

Custom matches are all I want right now, being able to set an amount of bots to try out weapons more realistically and mess around with friends. Also, this (i think) is what's needed to start this game's journey to esports status

[thin silo]

Having to reload stun gun and rocket launcher after cooldown is over is really dumb. Should not have to reload, it is a cooldown ability.

[formal sphinx]

Not quite accurate cos it assumes all headshots on the guns with lower ttk.

[upper citrus]

it assumes all headshots on every weapon. that is very much in favor of the throwing knives. it also takes their startup animation time into account which guns do not have. the throwing knives are just bad

[rancid skiff]

Flamethrower needs buffed. I feel it does fulfill its own fuction of main weapon selection

[quick coyote]

BAN FREE REWASD CHEAT AIMBOT, 37 000 REWASD AIMBOT USERS GAME IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lean barn]

game was popular in beta cause it didnt cater to the 12 year old controller kids. you dumbfucks buffed aim assist and killed your own game, good job

[lucid talon]

its super hard to get exp lol

[proud locust]

no its not

[formal sphinx]

Agreed. Big nerf on AA or even better remove altogether.

[hidden moss]

Embark - fix ranked matchmaking and REMOVE FUCKING EOMM

[flint bear]

Keyboard still kills controller. I don't see the problem.

[earnest sierra]

dude haven't you seen the video on reddit where AA lock down on an enemy?

[worthy mountain]

I have updates every driver, nvidia, dx, windows, all of them, i have run on low settings, i have kept a temp monitor on cpu and gpu, i have capped frame rate to 75, i have turned of DLSS and used TAAU, i have run in dx11, i have monitored memory usage for leaks, i have tried just about every 'fix' i could find on the internet but still....

My game just freezes... for no reason... no trigger, nothing consistent.. just freezes and I need to force restart my PC.
Googling this is see it everywhere with no fix... surely this is something that should receive attention? can only get one or two games in then i need to turn off, reboot and do all over again..
i9 10850K
32gb ram
RTX 3080

Why is this happening?

[lean barn]

The aim assist was made for players like you. dont try to think too hard

[storm plinth]

fix the revolver. its way to damn hard to use

[untold hinge]

Just played a ranked game. Made it to the finals. I am silver 2, playing against a 3 stack of diamonds

[boreal tusk]

Can we get the ability to bring people into the practice range? Customs would also work but really just bringing people into practice range with us could be huge for getting more people into the game.

[formal sphinx]

Match make on controller input.

[flint bear]

I have seen it.

K&M players can still turn their camera and acquire targets without ADS faster. ADS snapping isn't so powerful in a shooter where close quarters hipfire is the meta.

Edit: @round goblet apex legends isn't the finals. The AA is different and the meta is different.

[round goblet]

Holy sht you live under a rock, tell that to people In Apex Legends. Explain to me Hal and other pros use controller just to stay competitive. Btw this game AA is slightly stronger than Apex.

Edit: Im a SoloQ Master in apex and in here going back and forth through Diamond cause Im always matched to controller players or a KBM REWASD user or cheaters.

@flint bear Apex is the prime example of why you should not overtune AA or suffer its consequences IF you cant comprehend that point.

[hard ether]

Make an sbmm playlist for the people that want sbmm and make a no-sbmm playlist for the people that do not.

See whether the no-sbmm crowd keeps playing it for very long or whether it dies because they actually end up hating it.

[earnest sierra]

wtf u talking about?? even at hipfire and strafing AA would win any knm if the players are at the same lvl of skill especially in this game because the AA is way too OP it just lockes and reduce the recoil and smooth it and adjust everything for them controller players just hit the shoot button and move but kmn have to strafe and aim and never miss because AA never misses tf u talking man

@hard ether no they can make the unranked games non sbmm but ranked must be sbmm or make all the game mods sbmm would be more fair for new players because if i faced a bunch of diamonds in my first game i would delete the game immediately as i would think they're hackers lol

[open shadow]

i honestly feel like characters are a issue and character looks there should be more male and female options and skin colors and then make the people look a little better

[quick coyote]

Please do something about aim assist on MKB and script of anti recoil software 🙂

[flint bear]

@earnest sierra you seem to forget you can turn the camera instantly lol. So a few console players are getting more kills now, that doesn't mean it's broken, it means the best console players can beat semi-decent and decent PC players. Anything else is anecdotal.

But if your anecdotes are all you care about, lots of console players are still getting beamed by PC. I got friends that still complain how PC players are f---ing up their game.

[open shadow]

just keep doing what yall are doing though this game is great and i feel like after a few updates this will be a amazing game and i will he hooked and spend money on it

[open anchor]

Ranked is bullshit
I got queued into a ranked game and was only in a team of 2 while the rest of the lobby was in teams of 3 we lost and I lost fame points and I couldn't leave because I would get suspended

[dusty moth]

I can’t even find a game of ranked just searches for 30mins

[frail prawn]

same, I ended up in solo ranked once lmao

[woven helm]

I think somewhere down the line, ice-based utility would be super cool. Like freeze the ground and make it slippery type deal.

[gaunt perch]

bro they REALLLY need to fix the matchmaking, why are my 2 other teammates always braindead, i have to carry EVERY single match, literally EVERY single match

[ancient holly]

I don't know if this is the right channel or the #🌍┇maps channel would be ideal to say this, but I would like to give some feedback on my hunt for the "Space Rock Skipper" Achievement and to keep it simply please devs add a way to see where the meteor rock will hit (like exactly where it will hit) because I've been trying this for ~15 games and it's just sadness both for me and the guys with me because I have to get out of my way to try'n do this instead of helping my team and actually playing. I see three ways to fix this: 1st, just add a marker as I said before; 2nd, add that marker only when the player uses its "Recon Senses" Specialization. And 3rd, just substitute this Achievement with killing someone with the Defibrillator (I've seen a teammate "killing" someone with it, but I don't know if it actually does damage or if it was a bug, but for hell, it would be 100000 times funnier to have to kill someone with an instant kill, slow melee, than to go after rocks that are falling with 100% rng based mechanics).

PS: i know that Alien Invasion works as well but i got as lucky as with the actual meteor event, and i think the devs will/should remove this

[prisma mica]

Is this the right channel to ask for a distinction between friends being online and in-game?

[wheat island]

Easiest way to get the meteor achievement is with aliens. Their missiles count as well. The event also lasts longer and there are multiple ships comparing to the single spot of meteor shower

[slow jasper]

Can anyone help me with EAC constantly kicking me? I built a new computer and now it hates me. On my old computer it was fine. If there's another channel to ask this please let me know. My current solution to actually play has been to uninstall and reinstall EAC after every game.

[worthy helm]

stop trying to cheat

[placid valley]

please add an option to remove that horrible pink background, it makes me so sleepy

[knotty lake]

A recon sense-less game mode

[lean island]

Can we get public ban broadcasts for those on the leaderboards hit by the banhammer please?

[rustic pebble]

the most wrong take in the history of the finals

[quick coyote]

HAHAHAHAHA GIT GUD

[gray gate]

Kill credit is annoying if I am about to kill someone and they blow both of us up I should at least get an assist if not a kill

[crude ingot]

I've had an issue where it will show two deferent cosmetics equipped and the one that is not equipped will be permanently unavailable to equip because it's "already equipped" when its clearly not. Anyone know how to fix this?

[frail prawn]

its one of the lowest dps on the game wym?????

[daring fossil]

please fix the revolver, maybe it's server issues or what but some days I can't miss with it, other times I can't hit a god damn thing even though im right on them

[gaunt knoll]

it did 💀

[lapis pollen]

dagger dagger dagger, I can do this all day

[rocky verge]

That would be a cool modifier, freeze over? Flash freeze? Iced out? Slip and skate?

[daring fossil]

delete your contestant and make a new one. I would make the new one first, so you can compare to your old one before you delete it

[crude ingot]

thanks

[prisma mica]

No one else get annoyed at how it doesn't tell you when friends are actually in game. its really annoying to have to ask if they are in yet everytime to know when to send invite

[golden panther]

show the ranks of people in the lobby

[calm fulcrum]

fix turret and recon 😔

[gaunt knoll]

• this discord server needs a custom join to create vc option
• need a in-game indian server (valo blew up cus of it)
• need a in-game global player find (like cs and fortnite)
• nerf the riot shield
• need crosshair customization option (like valo or cs)

they should add a cool down fort the riot shield

[daring fossil]

the riot shield shouldn't even exist in this game considering dudes can spin 180 degrees and kill you before their character even turns around on your client. 99% of the time when Im fighting a riot shield and shooting right at his body I only get shield hits

[celest tree]

riot shield is shit, get to the higher ranks and see. You must not even be silver or gold. Their range and speed sucks and anyone with decent aim can shoot you without hitting the shield. Everything else is ok

[quick coyote]

Get rid of aim assist completely, on both PCs and consoles.

Add keyboard and mouse support for consoles.

Imagine playing a shooter with a fiddly little thumbstick. Couldn't be me. Stupid. 😵‍💫 🥴

[sharp spade]

has aim assist been mentioned in this thread??

[golden panther]

maybe twice or so

[alpine jungle]

100% I would truly love to know what exactly The Finals is going to do about ranked play. We have over 100 something thousand players that play this game on average. That is way more than enough to have a rank based matchmaking system where bronze players get matched with bronze etc. Imo it should be like this. Bronze- Silver-Gold should be matched with eachother Plat-Diamond should be matched with eachother never should a diamond player be playing against bronze level players or should they also be getting bronze players on their team in ranked play.

My other bit of feedback is the major thing needed immediately in this game the C4 barrel nerf aka nuke in game. We need this meta to end asap yes it can be countered but lets be real it was never intended to be this way in the game and it highly being abused and this needs to be addressed quickly. Thank you.

Also to the clowns complaining of aim assist. You play a game where it says crossplay it says controller. This game has aim assist deal with it or go play a game thats created for PC only or a game that has no aim assist like rainbow six. You can also plug a controller in yourself and see that using a controller is not as simple as you think. A controller takes skill and getting used to just like a mouse and keyboard takes getting used to.

[exotic parrot]

Release more skins!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[subtle tree]

PLEASE REMOVE AIM ASSIST FROM ALL MELEE WEAPONS. WE DON'T NEED IT AND IT FUCKING SUCKS.

[pure gyro]

You can turn it off

[vagrant raptor]

please give me something for backfilling a game. i joined one in progress and only got 20 vr’s. i’m going to start leaving games that i backfill or rubber band my sticks and walk way until something changes. 20 vr’s isn’t worth it to me and id rather just join a fresh game.

[crimson egret]

It’s been never intended this way - yes it was. Nukes appeared in almost every trailer.

It’s also a Steam achievement.

But I think they need to do 2 things: Once barrell is held, it’s 2 shots to detonate. Once mid-flight, only one shot to detonate. Plus C4 needs to add weight and slow down the barrel, just like mines do.

[woven helm]

Balisong skin for the dagger

[flat shoal]

where

[quick coyote]

hey Embark, I am a video editor who loves your game the Finals, but one thing me and alot of my friends dislike about the game is the lack of a replay system in order to get things such as cinematic videos etc. This game is amazing, and I have no complaints about the actual gameplay, I just wanted to let you guys know that there is a big community of editors out there who are also wanting a replay system, and i believe a simple replay system similar to fortnites or overwatches would be amazing.Besides video editors, I believe content creators and high ranked players would also benefit off this, as content creators could make higher quality videos and pro players could do VOD reviews. Thank you if you actually read all of this ahahha. Keep up the great work!

[drowsy thistle]

Apparently the heavy elbow isnt part of its hitbox anymore, and there is now a bug being used and exploited in ranked, where they can shoot AND melee with the mesh shield up and active.

[solemn vector]

Fix ur servers. Get fortnites anti cheat system and optimize the game it's gotten worse than open beta

[cloud forge]

Hey I think there should be more skins in the game. I know it just released but I feel like having a library almost like CSGO would be epic. I’d love to design some or even have a page for others to submit ideas. It could be a great community thing to have monthly skins picked out of community commissions or smt? Just think that would be nice. If this isn’t a thing already, where should I submit this idea for the skins? I have tons of skin ideas I want to sketch up

[dapper locust]

Embark Team you keep us in stagnation, in the void. There is a lot of issues that people are addressing and your audience expects to keep us updated on your progress. We need to know what is coming or when to brace ourselfs - if you keep silence it creates speculations and they are always of the worst choice you can assume.

Big games on the market gave us the feeling they addressing issue immediately - turning off something, giving small updates, releasing hot fixes to show you are working on it and changing something. Changing anything is better than not doing it at all for the course of two weeks or even more so far (last update 20.12).

Please react and give us something to work with.

[errant fern]

RECONNECTING AFTER A CRASH FEEDBACK:
Please just let the statue be wherever you died when you disconnect. Also start the timer right away – there is no point in only starting the timer once player connects and placing their statue on the edge of the map. It's punishing people that actually want to reconnect to the game and is especially frustrating after the game crashes, which happens A LOT (especially the UE crash MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK), please fix.

SPRINT FEEDBACK:
Please include an option in settings to automatically sprint all the time (not just toggle), it will make the game feel much better like it does in apex. Additionally, sliding should keep more momentum – I've heard that used to be the case in alpha tests and the movement was much better because of it. Also quick melee and melee weapons like the Sword shouldn't interrupt your sprint.
I am a sword player myself and being able to sprint all the time when chasing would be a deserved QoL change. Also you should be able to sprint while charging the alt-attack of the sword, it feels really bad when people run away from you just because you have to slow down to charge it. The period in which you cannot attack is enough of a punishment.

Thank you for considering these changes and have a nice day! ❤️

[velvet ether]

While i love the game, larping valve is no way to treat even console players which seem so dear to the team

[worn peak]

I think the game has a lot of potential. However, matchmaking can make or break a game, such as an apex and destiny. I'm assuming the finals have a hidden MMR rating for all players. If the algorithm uses stats from quickplay and unranked tournaments I think it can pose an issue for players new to ranked tournaments. For example, a new player does well in quick play and is unranked. Then decides to queue for ranked. The algorithm has determined their hidden MMR to be of a higher skill. Then, it places the player into a lobby of "similar skill" based on hidden MMR, but the player ends up going against far better mechanically and knowledgeable opponents. Or instead, have skill-based match ranking based on the rank badge.

[round goblet]

So like can we have Cross Input so we could have an end to the AA discussion and suppress all sides.

Cross Input
Pros;
•It disables Keyboard/Mouse device Inputs depending on the lobby
(Kbm lobby means only KBM and controller will be an unusable input, the lobby also auto disable AA for all players to make REWASD unusable/nullified )
•Play/Squad with same Input devices
•Temporary fix until they balance out AA so we can optionally turn crossplay and Cross Input on again without getting wreck at high level plays.

Cons;
•Longer Queue times
•SBMM rank changes tbf since it lower player count.

[paper heron]

cheater nicknames

Zemo#8014
SnappyFace#3152
ChippedGlobe#0517

Why can't you make it so you can only play with bots? This would solve the problem of cheaters once and for all.

Cheaters would kill bots as much as they wanted, and normal players would play normally, and not die every 1 second

[quick coyote]

The reWASD "cheat" fools the game into thinking you're playing with a controller, when you're actually using mouse and keyboard! It converts MnK inputs into controller outputs, which The Finals game then sees as controller so it gives you AIM ASSIST when playing with MOUSE AND KEYBOARD

There are also RECOIL-CANCELLING scripts in reWASD that reverse recoil patterns for each gun!!!

PLEASE REMOVE AIM ASSIST ENTIRELY, THIS WILL FIX HALF THE ISSUE PRESENTED IN THE VIDEO BY @brave coyote . JUST ADD MOUSE AND KEYBOARD SUPPORT TO CONSOLES AND CALL IT A DAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moBgG4RVr-w

Imagine using a smaller part of your brain (controlling a thumb) to aim, vs USING MORE OF YOUR BRAIN to aim (controlling your fingers, wrist, and arm). Thumbsticks to aim are laughable and should've never been a thing, especially when the superior mouse & keyboard is available.

[subtle tree]

REMOVE AIM ASSIST ON PC. REMOVE CROSS PLAY. REMOVE AIM ASSIST FROM MELEE WEAPONS AND DOUBLE BARREL. SHIT IS BAD. I HAVE ALL ASSISTS TURNED OFF AND PLAY ON KB/M.

[alpine jungle]

Not a popular opinion. But roles should be limited. One team should not be able to stack medium medium heavy/light. It should always be Medium/Heavy/Light.

[distant storm]

Yo

[amber compass]

Remove aim assist on pc if u plug in a roller Ur just a bot really

[frozen ice]

great game but please nerf heavy c4 nukes

[tropic finch]

Can we get an option to see our ping and lobby ping? Extra points if we can not play with people that have high ping?

[long moth]

yooo

[nocturne flare]

Text chat when?

[pure gyro]

Adding ranked tournament wins stat in stats

[subtle oak]

‘Please remove aim assist entirely, just add mouse and keyboard support to console and call it a day’ …

Very bad argument. Most of console players only have a controller and just don’t want to use mnk.

Input based matchmaking puts an end to the aim assist debate. Nothing more, just that.

[subtle tree]

Can we get a ban wave soon?

[paper pewter]

Why is the level 6 skin so suck?

[tired crescent]

I don't think stun gun is very fun to play against and should probably be removed

[sand dome]

I think there are problems with the sound in terms of spacing. It's very hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from and at what distance.
I'm curious if maybe it's just me.

[serene fable]

AKM or FCAR have wrong damage stats. It says that it's equal but it is not. FCAR have slightly more damage. It is misleading because from these information you can think that AKM have higher DPS but it's similar.

[subtle tree]

no.

REMOVE THE GOD DAMN AIM ASSIST.

Do an update of any kind. Fix something - anything. Please. Say something to us, just tell us you're working on it. This is getting outrageous. The only meaningful thing the dev's have commented on is the Daily issue and that doesn't matter at all. Crybabies whining about the grind. Fix the damn game. (Game is fun, I bought the pass. I'll keep playing, but FIX IT.)

[hard mesa]

Game dev takes longer than you think it does. Obviously they're working on the game, use your brain. Stop whining.

[tired crescent]

Removing the aim assist has never been a viable option and never will, there are other workarounds

Rest assured though, the devs have stated multiple times that they are working on solving the issue

[amber umbra]

Anti Aliasing needs to be able to turned off entirely as an accessibility feature. I have eye issues and kinda have in-built Anti Aliasing, so having it in game just makes everything blurry and I have to really strain my eyes to focus, which makes me either not be able to see players or be in pain if I play more than 20 min

[tranquil prairie]

nerf nukes and increase RPG cooldowns

[coral nebula]

WE NEED MIDDLE EAST SERVERS ASAP!

[prisma ether]

i feel like recently ranked became nearly unplayable but it must be my issue... feels like everyone is beaming me and my teammates while teammates always run around like chickens with their heads cutoff. they are usually below silver while i am in plat... feels demoralising

[safe geyser]

Tbh a Berj khalifa (idk how to say it) style map would be cool

[hard mesa]

I like the RPG cooldown right now for the purposes of destroying walls, but the damage it does is just too high imo. Nerfing the player damage and instead making it more of a utility item would be the way to go imo

[quick coyote]

@subtle oak You have the bad argument.

Having input-based matchmaking still allows PC players to use reWASD to fool The Finals into thinking they're using a controller. But reWASD is just the tip of the iceberg. You can use devices like XIM MATRIX as a mouse-to-controller adapter. x360ce is an Xbox 360 controller emulator.

There are tons of ways PC players can use mouse and keyboard and get controller auto-aim-assist by fooling The Finals game into thinking they're using a controller.

Why not focus on gyro aiming for controllers? Gyro aiming may be the next evolution for controllers - so much so that aim assist is not needed.

Stop trying to use LESS OF YOUR BRAIN (thumbstick) to aim, vs MORE OF YOUR BRAIN (mouse). Stop trying to use a shitty thumbstick device that is not designed for precise aiming.

[quick coyote]

THIS. Even just small little announcements going "Hey guys, been working on X the past few days." or "We've taken note of X." every so often. The pure radio silence besides patch notes just makes us feel unheard or not cared about.

[atomic drum]

The cheater is in my team, he offers 10 yuan per game to play with the service, another teammate and him in collusion, even if I use gas to kill the cheater, another teammate will save him, I do not want to deduct points because there is a cheater in the team, and do not want to get the points won by the cheater. Please upgrade the anti-cheating system

[blissful crescent]

Pls add a 120 fps mode on console or uncap the fps , and for the future season pls consider adding a TDM or a FFA

[quick coyote]

remove defib, remove c4 on carriables, remove aim assist, add a cooldown on shield to prevent constant on/off during fights. when can we expect a decent patch coming out?

[subtle tree]

When will the game be out of beta?

[hard mesa]

They haven't decided what they're going to change yet, most likely. If they say "We hear the feedback on issue X" and then decide that issue X is better left as-is for most players, they'll look quite silly and people will complain. Also, once they acknowledge an issue, a countdown timer starts before people start complaining that it's taking so long and the devs are lazy etc etc.

On another note, either the AI voice acting should be removed, because it really doesn't sound good at all, or it should really be taken advantage of, because as it stands nothing in the game utilizes it being AI. The cynical part of me assumes it's nothing but a cost cutting measure (which seems most likely). Honestly I'm shocked the game released with it, if only because of the lack of quality. The really poor writing isn't doing any favors, though.

[earnest granite]

1.The gaurdian turrent power of the medium class is too overpowered ,it has too much health and does not even get destroyed with a rug or a c4 which are very strong explosives ,in my opinion this can be fixed by reducing the health od the turn or making it shoot slower or making it's dps a bit less
2.I love to play as the heavy class and it is the most fun class to play with ,The weapons that heavy class has have too much recoil and I would love to see a gun that has less recoil like an AR or maybe a smg
3.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .
4.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)Because after unlocking most of the gadgets and weapons the VRS are just lying around and not used .
5.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class .
6.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

[subtle oak]

They are never going to remove aim assist. Think of all the Xbox en Ps5 player, console is controller and not mnk.

I don’t know what the whole ‘stop trying to use less of your brain’ is supposed to mean. You get a controller when buying a console. It is designed for controller. If you’re good on mnk, you still destroy good controller players in so many ways.

For your sake I hope they resolve the mnk aim assist issue. To me that sounds like cheating.

[tired crescent]

Having input-based matchmaking would also allow for stricter anti-cheat measures; AI technology is rapidly evolving and it's not very hard to detect whether or not your movements are from a controller or a mouse & keyboard. I'd assume this currently isn't enforced in any way, but with input-based matchmaking it could be

[quick coyote]

The "debate" isn't just about aim assist. It's mnk players getting aim assist from software (controller emulators) and hardware (adapters). This is possible on console but it's significantly easier on PC (and free). Console players can have aim assist but PC should not have it. The Finals aim assist has to be one of the strongest assists I've played with in awhile too lmao. Having it on PC and so overturned just gives people a free and easy cheat. Input based matchmaking will just force controller players to have the cheaters using this method, fixing nothing and making controller players matches hell. I agree removing it entirely isn't fair though. Controllers do need some level of assistance for proper shots, but that just belongs on a console where the majority of players are going to be controller users.

[solemn vector]

https://youtu.be/oEkrpN4NRhA?si=KV0EOBAUefHJT-cW

[distant bluff]

I think taking away the use of reserve items during ranked games is doing nothing positive for the strategical aspect of the game.
I'd suggest to allow players to switch weapon during games.
And I'd even go as far as allowing to change class during games.

[lament heron]

I’m here the first time to write that from one day to another, so many people started cheating and it wasn’t hard to find what they are use, all the top players share it as an actual bad thing in the game… I’m not sure if a build in aim assist is a good thing in a competitive fps game like this, there will be always a player who find out how to make it for mouse as well

[subtle tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUaBj2ZxMkM fuck the finals

If you guys aren't aware of "recoil smothing" check this out. who needs REWASD when you can do this? I'm done playing. My opinion has changed from "I really like the game, please fix it" to "Fuck The Finals".

Just for context, 136.6 hours, completed battlepass, level 38.

[hollow plinth]

anyone else get a weird yellow haze/gas like glow on monaco?

[manic peak]

I feel like it should be a lil more easy to level up your account not too easy just a lil more but other then that just add more cloths and skins for weapons i’ll happily spend more money on this game it’s amazing i love it i just got ranked unlocked

[nova field]

Quality of life: add your teammates distance

[edgy ivy]

I've only spent about 60 hours and am level 27 or smth

[wraith lotus]

please fix ICBM (c4 on throwables)

[woeful path]

@rustic bloom @fickle linden @feral osprey trying to change weapons skins, charms, stickers ect wont save now. ive tried multiple times and i cant change any of those items. just stuck with same skins....... this was also a problem in the BETA.... look into it please

[frozen ice]

they cant do that

[manic peak]

yeah but i can’t play that much in one sitting i have work and stuff and i know other people do like not a huge change just a lil bit easier

[edgy ivy]

I wanted to type something immediately after but only then saw the 15 min timer. I wanted to add that if you focus on the dailies and weeklies you can level pretty quickly. Usually 2-3 rounds or 1-2 tournament starts can net you almost all dailies and a chunk of the weeklies.

[shrewd geyser]

its not hard if your heavy fraggin i hit max level a week ago with a busy job. besides you need something to grind towards in a game

[shadow sentinel]

Solo queued platinum. Got two Bronze 3 teammates. Lost to a triple diamond leaderboard team. -115 FP. Closed game.

🙏 please make matchmaking in ranked make sense

[cunning stag]

How do I see the actual played time? It doesn't work in game

[edgy ivy]

On the Steam/Library page. It shows you how many hours you played the game, or at least had it active.

[cobalt latch]

Hi everyone, 👋

I've been playing this game since its release and I made a feedback list:

• In cash out mode, playing the objective (in particular unlocking the chest the first time) is not rewarded enough
• To follow up on the first point, the time that the team holds the point the collection is not rewarded either, it very regularly happens to be robbed at the last second (which is perhaps the spirit of the game? But I still find it very frustrating). Perhaps extend the duration when the point is taken by a team or add "bonus points" for the time that a team managed to keep the cash out point (and possibly perhaps award additional points at the end of the round according to this duration)

==> Generally speaking, I find that playing the objective is not very rewarded, in concrete terms a team can wait for the WHOLE game and steal the cash out at the last second and therefore win the game. But I repeat, it is perhaps the spirit of the game that you want to convey, so I cannot say. I just find it a shame, it doesn't encourage playing the objective.

Otherwise, the game is really great and has great potential!!!

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[quick willow]

About aim assist : Make MM filtered by input , controlers play with controlers , KBM play with KBM , at least the issue with Aim Assist will be fixed IMO
Check the ranked MM , im gold and sometimes i play again top 100 idk why , and obviosuly i get smashed xD

[soft rain]

You understand that in ranked games the turret has absolutely 0% use rate because its just so easy to destroy? Its underpowered if anything. You want less recoild AR? Go play medium.

[earnest granite]

nobody asked ur opinion this is a feedback channel not feedback from hullukukko channel

[pale tulip]

game is so full of cheaters seems to get worse by the day

[open shadow]

all i complain about is not enough boy characters only 1 while there are 2 girl and there is no picking your skin color either

[plush plaza]

Day 3 of asking embark to disable aim assist for PC completely until reWASD gets solved, catering for a small audience playing with controller is not a excuse to ruin the ranked experience completely

[paper jewel]

huh?

[compact sleet]

Get rid of AA already…. So many MnK players are leaving the game daily cus it’s no point to even try when 65% of players are using rollers for soft aim and then you have a extra 15% of PC players using reWASD….. not to mention the 2-3% hackers that are on EVERY single night running it down in rank for free.

How can we test our aim/skill on MnK when over 80% of the community are on crutches?

Rank has no integrity at all smh….

AT LEAST MAKE INPUT BASE ONLY

[quick coyote]

If dev dont communicate with player, This game will die.

Share your thought with player.
So we can feedback that.
Just dont update and watch.

We are not lab rat. 👨‍🔬🐀💉

[lavish shard]

I think you right the player nomber on steam -> FREE FALL

[tawny oak]

perform server maintenance, hit registration issues are very very very common right now i dont understand why you guys dont do anything to fix your game

[open shadow]

there are not enough male characters there are 2 female characters although there is 1 male and there is a black woman as a light and a white woman as a medium and a mixed guy i believe as a heavy it would be cool if we could customize

[quick coyote]

😭 Dev is killing the game

[brittle turret]

I'm done. They nerfed every mechanic that breaked movement INTO THE GROUND in between beta for no reason but they allow everything to break aim.

[noble path]

recoil smoothing or whatever it's called (im talking about spamming A-D) works only with slow firing weapons so just the AK and and FCAR (it is not as useful on other weapons like the M60 or XP-54) , if everyone can use it I don't see it as a problem

[old shore]

nerf heavy

[lavish shard]

No com
No add/update
Sbmm kiling the game
Cheater
Dev sleeping ?

[brittle turret]

"Furthermore, some of the Interaction Lab’s research suggests that aim assist reduces the cognitive load on players, allowing them to devote more attention to other crucial tasks during gameplay, like positioning or listening for audio cues — giving them a secondary advantage over their peers on keyboard and mouse."
Source : https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/esports/2020/10/16/aim-assist-debate/

You're just using less brain cells for doing more, with less training, thanks to the computer that compute for your lazy cns.

[ember otter]

All imma ask for is for some more little free cosmetics sprinkled in that aren’t all just yellow and black and all tight sportswear, would be nice to mix it up beyond the cargos and 1 hoodie

[ebon shuttle]

@wheat fractal @fickle linden @feral osprey @wispy palm. Hello CM's I've had a bug that affected my fame points. My game crashed and then it would not let me reconnect to the game even though the match was still in play. I was out for maybe 20 seconds and lost 500 fp for it. Can you do something? (500 fp is like a full tournament that game take more then 1 hour)

[dawn grove]

#bug-discussion or #📧┇contact-us

tagging all the CMs (mods/admins alike) at once is definetly not preffered in any discord. ever.

[crisp briar]

who? asked? you?

[vale flame]

Imo i think heavys shield should work like gibbies, meaning that u can't shoot through it even if it is yours

[edgy ivy]

you can literally mix and match every face, body type etc into all characters. I already thought it was a great choice to not specifically mention anything labeled male or female anywhere at all

[tranquil skiff]

It would be nice if there were a penalty for people leaving games…. Sucks to match into a game that literally has 3 seconds left because a team dominated… people should face a 10 - 20 min penalty where they can’t play or match into a game if they leave to prevent this from happening… I’d be cool with a 5 hour penalty. That’d really fix the problem….

[clear jungle]

I think u guys make a big joke on me. I spend my money for skins and the next day somehow I get banned? Kinda strange if u ask me...

[valid night]

buff lh1 damage to 50 or buff rpm to 350 plz fix reload bug🤨

[fickle siren]

Lol

[dawn grove]

just proper etiquette within a community that's all bye now 💀

[crisp briar]

the CMs are there to interact with the community thats their role. Illogical to suggest that it is bad etiquette to try and interact with them. but then again maybe i dont spend my life in discord servers so i dont know about ur made up etiquette rules

[hardy canyon]

man hackers can go 30+ kills for multiple rounds straight w/o getting kicked and I get blasted by system integrity violations on a clean system

[tropic sequoia]

Please rework the ranked matchmaking System… No sbmm and playing against other contestants with the same rank

[zealous grotto]

when in beta fps was stable (rx6400 i was getting 70-80 avg), now in drops to 40 and i get 60fps avg. What the hell happened

[glacial ermine]

match making is officially f**d, like if you are gold you match with 2 bronze bots that has one finger on the keyboard at a time, and has 0 coms. and if you dare to lose this fing round you -100 fame points

[clear jungle]

you re not alone my friend. I spend 50€ for my skins and next day i also get banned like damn what i did wrong?

[serene comet]

u still need to nerf c4 + barrel bcs it still instantly kill ppl.. also are u gonna do smtg with the cheaters ? or u guys just gonna let the game die slowly ? ppl are giving up on this game, we have less players bcs cheaters ruin the game in ranked

[haughty mica]

let us exchange 3000 VRs into multibucks

[open shadow]

add a battle royale big futuristic world

[stuck inlet]

Ayo the game has so many bugs. Fix the game

[edgy ivy]

This. Little babies that immediately throw a fit when a game doesn't go their way and immediately leave. Most of the times a Light who dashes and hooks way too far ahead of the rest of the team so there's no time to catch up or heal, they go 1v3 and die. This happens 2-3 times and then they decide "screw this team, no one is helping me, I'm leaving" and then your team is just effed because you're always 2v3 now. Really could do with a long timeout for these types of players.

[dreamy hamlet]

My feedback;

Either remove AA for everyone or remove it on PC and remove crossplay.

[buoyant fulcrum]

You have option to turn off crossplay

[gentle zinc]

Cross play can be turned off

[umbral halo]

Gadgets: Grenades need a cook time (frag, smoke, etc) so you can hold onto it and let it trigger when you time it out

[lone violet]

would be nice if the crowd cheer after a teamwipe and after a successful turn in

[karmic cloud]

The announcer doesn’t always announce correctly, if someone is revived as the last teammate dies, a wipe is announced despite a wipe not taking place. Sometimes things aren’t announced at all too

[dreamy hamlet]

@buoyant fulcrum, @gentle zinc, Fair point then remove AA for PC, I dont have the option to turn off AA for enemies, then I will make sure to "blacklist" the AA part of the community myself.

[hearty knoll]

bro AA is not a problem in this game get better (im mnk)

[crisp plank]

Everybody who moans about AA just need excuses. If you were good, it wouldn’t even be a conversation to begin with. The “problem” would not pertain to you to any degree. You’d be surprised how many people are complete dogwater at FPS games.

[normal peak]

anti aliasing?

[plush plaza]

@hearty knoll you clearly havent been to high ranks 🙂 and either way, playing with mnk and abusing aim assist is just plain cheating. You get a competitive advantage so of course its a problem

[idle mauve]

instead of removing AA, things like zoom snapping, and the way AA works (rotational AA) should be reworked into something more balanced, comp side of this game will get the apex treatment if it's not looked into soon.

[edgy ivy]

yes so AA in itself isn't a problem, it's the fact that you can use AA while you use mnk by making the PC think you're using a controller but you're actually not. This is where the checking needs to be done.
-Edit- why am I being clownvoted? I am agreeing with @plush plaza here but I disagree it's an overall AA problem, it's the combo of PC users abusing AA that's the problem and that's where the anti-cheat software should check for.

[hearty knoll]

tbh, this game should'nt have a competetive scene, there is so much to balance and its only gonna get worse with updates, and every fps game HAS to have a competetive scene nowadays and the players turn into dents that think theyre gonna go pro by getting plat. focus on the arcade aspect, but please dont turn into fortnite. Rotational aim assist should never have existed, in any game though ill give you that. the AA on mnk is a bug as far as im aware and will be patched, and hopefully those losers will get banned

@bleak coral holy based, honestly not an opinion i see often but i respect it :0

[bleak coral]

rewasd isnt a new thing, every fps game you have been able to use mnk with aim assist. only reason its talked about so much here is because of how broken aim assist is (hitting every single bullet effortlessly).
halo infinite gave mouse aim assist to completely solve the aim assist debate.
having aim assist on mouse isnt inherently a bad thing, it makes ppl who are bad at mouse better at the game and enjoy it more - the exact reason controllers get aim assist.
"abusing AA" is anyone who is good at aiming (whether that be sticks or mouse) who dont need aim assist, but then get 40% or more aimbot on top of that - making them have literal perfect aim.
honestly i couldnt care less about ppl getting aim assist on mouse because i already face controller players with aim assist - same exact thing.

[quick coyote]

anyone know what this means LowLevelFatalError [File:.\Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/D3D12Util.cpp] [Line: 898]
hr failed
at .\Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/D3D12Resources.cpp:692
with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED with Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG

[gaunt ridge]

It's deffs not the same thing, and that's the reason why aim assist exists in general, the dexterity of aimin with a m+k is higher than controller of course and AA tries to balance it out. IMO they should just have ranked not be crossplay enabled and without AA (in PC) Edit: the rest of the game can stay as is, this only for ranked

[amber compass]

Input based matching for ranked pls then roller can aimbot each other if u like 0 skill gap go for it

[wispy sonnet]

Please make it so crossplay off on PC has no aim assist or give us input-based matchmaking. Don’t force me to play against AA, please.

[smoky storm]

Halo infinite didn't solve the issue, they ruined the entire game for mnk players. Aa on mnk is literally the worst possible outcome that can be achieved because it will remove all skill expression from the entire genre.

We want input seperated lobbies. Fuck aim assist, they can go aimbot each other in their own little cheater v cheater lobbies. Long as we don't mix raw input with aim assist no one gives a tiny fuck about controllers.

[glacial ermine]

so like even if your team is 2v3v3v3 you still minus 100 rank points? fix this fkin shit, at least give a notification that the wanker has been banned 24 hrs or something

[buoyant fulcrum]

No comments AA as I play on keyboard and mouse and never played fps games on the controller besides (spending 1k+ hours on tekken, dmc etc)

[long moth]

DDD

[edgy ivy]

imo there's a difference between AA and literal aimbot. As a mnk player idm playing against controller players with AA. I do mind playing against other mnk players with AA. Literal aimbot is out of the question whatsoever.

[summer mica]

Cry us a river about ranked when the game just launched and it's SBMM 😂

[dreamy hamlet]

tbh, and this is a opinion of mine, one player has AA, it should be enabled for all, regardless of input type. If the console gamers think its unfair? They can turn crossplay off. Level the playing field, or give us as PC players an option, make it so there is AA on and AA off lobbies, and make it a legit setting, no cheating, no nothing, but then people can play as they want.

[crystal dagger]

Add an IQ check to enter this channel

[twilit lily]

They did solve the issue. There will never be "skill expression" because even in tournaments, controllers can play against MnK (In other games, this one has no tournaments yet) So skill expression DOES NOT MATTER. You pick the optimal control input and use that only. If you want to compete, you have to use whatever is most optimal and the best. It's why tons of people on Apex swapped to controller instead of MnK at the pro level, controller AA is simply just stronger than MnK in almost every situation. And Apex has CRAZY movement, and yet controller players are still on top with their limited movement. Which should say enough.
So there is only two solutions really, just remove AA or give everyone AA. That's fair and even. Not everyone on PC has pinpoint aim. Sure, MnK CAN be easier to aim with, but some people have PC's worse than a console who need the assistance EVER MORE than a console, some people have disabilities and can still use aim assist on MnK, some people are just starting/really bad at PC gaming and could use the AA. There is actually a pretty long list of reasons why someone could need AA on PC.
And in fact, while Halo still isn't doing GREAT, their numbers have gone up A LOT once they started those changes and added forge. So it seems that people DO want AA on MnK.

[lapis plinth]

Add customs to the game 🙏🙏

[queen cloud]

• Fix anti cheat
• Nerf AA (no snap aim)
• Nerf nuke/rpg
• Recon needs a bit of a nerf/rework
• Improve audio to make game less random. Eg People padding/ziplining right behind u without single sound. Sometimes even cloak doesn't make a sound.
• Some grenade indicators/sounds would be nice.

For reference I'm Top 1000 on PC right now. And have over 150h.

[wide adder]

Add a way for people to do an intelligence test and test them on the knowledge of gamemaking cause people here dont know what they are talking about 🙏

[dreamy hamlet]

Sure thing, I could just "get" better, and no, I am not the best at the game, neither am I bad, I would say I am fairly okay after my 45 hours ingame (sucks to have to work and not being able to play as I used to), but I would say I was a fairly competent MnK player, FaceIt level 10 for CSGO etc. (I know its not 1 to 1, just saying I know how to point a mouse)

The problem is when people have aim, that litterality snap at you, when they jump around etc. no matter how you look at it, its and disadvantage to MnK players. Long range, MnK have the advantage, but tbh, the "long range" is not as viable (IMO) as shorter range, here the AA is a clear buff.

[hearty knoll]

💯

[drifting blaze]

So is there a dev to clarify whether the ai is a placeholder for the new content? Like are they going to have the actors fix old lines that were generated via ai?

[unreal kelp]

Lights shouldn’t be able to 1 tap other Lights with the shotgun.

[candid dawn]

This mnk aim assist is getting out of control, I can’t escape it literally every match I play there’s one on my team and clearly on the others as well

[tired crescent]

Pretty sure they're intending on using AI lines for the announcers in the future too

[timid leaf]

The biggest problem with this game is the lack of cross-play.
It claims to have cross-play but in fact it does not.
••Please enable the ticker on Easy Anti Cheat to allow Linux support!••
The game runs well on the Steam Deck. Without Linux support for Steam Deck and general Linux users, the companies behind The Finals are selling themselves short and missing out on general profit gain from including this base of gamers that is growing quite rapidly.
There are quite a few things needing worked on and fixed in the game. But this is one of the easiest fixes that can be solved by simply clicking a check mark in the EAC software on the developer side.
If you agree to this suggestion. Please leave a response and thumb up this request! Thanks!

[crystal storm]

suggestion, remove Aim Assist on PC client

[manic prairie]

Turrets need big heal nerf and model 1885 shotgun need faster reload speed and AA need nerf but that you guys already know 😄

[keen niche]

reWASD isn't just about AA. People are combining it with scripts that basically remove recoil from the guns. When you have these two things combined, it is absolutely a problem and no amount of skill as a player combats this, especially when a whole team is running them.

[drifting blaze]

Ok but are they going to fix the old lines with real acting is what I'm asking

[stable wolf]

Nerf light class

[timid leaf]

Nerf everything.
Like literally Nerf the game.

[ornate badger]

There should be little jump pad platforms moving back & forth in the bottomless pits so you have the possibility of recovering after accidentally falling it.
It really kills my mood when I fall over the edge by mistake and having an opportunity to come back from that would make it a lot more bearable and increase my enjoyment of the game even more. 🕹️🖲️

#👂┇game-feedback message

[dull elm]

Wasn't my idea but adding a deflection shield kinda like genji for light class would be such a good addition

It would make RPGs way more interesting cus you can turn them back and it won't just insta kill you if you bait it out the same way genji would bait out an ult.
It also gives light a bit more survivability to get away again

[edgy ivy]

ah yes give Lights even more chances of scurrying around and be annoying

[tired crescent]

What old lines are you talking about exactly? As far as I know they have made all of their current voicelines using voice actors and building their AI voices based on them and I think they're going to use the same system later on as well

[frank talon]

Day 516541321 asking to stop make us join games already launched (happened to my first 3 games in a row) don't make me regret buying the pass, you could give advantages to it (like not joining already launched games), and RPG should not 1 shot Lights

[wispy sonnet]

No, back filling is a good thing it would be so bad if nobody ever backfilled. The solution is to reward the player for backfilling with extra XP or something like that.

[buoyant fulcrum]

Compensation xp, get bonus xp for participating and even more extra if you win.

[halcyon marsh]

i know this is a silly question, but i cant detonate the C4 (using controller on PC). anybody have this issue? wondering if its a bug

[proud gate]

Why?

[dull elm]

I'd love more updates in the #game-announcements channel. The closer/more open the devs are with the community the better the game will be

[unreal kelp]

It’s the most unfair thing, people running around cloaked getting free kills

[frank talon]

yeah 3 times in a row they can kiss my ass

[elfin fiber]

Hologram grenades. Grenades for light class maybe that spawns a bunch of 1 shot holograms that run around. Good counter for recon etc

[ornate badger]

And people should just be left out to dry if their teammates disconnect?

[quartz whale]

Nerf the Recon sense, I shouldn't not be able to see trhough all the map

[smoky storm]

All gun sight sway removed during ADS,stay centered on screen,ironsights included

Healing beam is interrupted for 1/4-1/3 second if target takes bullet dmg.help prevent mercy healbotting cosplay.environmental/gas/fire dmg does not trigger cd

Remove/nerf Recon: #👂┇game-feedback message
Replace Recon with Defib as a specialization, or nerf defib

Turret(potentially other gadgets) hitbox fix(bullets go through gaps gives turret greater than intended EHP)

Glitch nade explodes on impact with shield, player, or equipment.otherwise regular fuse

double barrel shotty nerf

1.5-2x Dash range
2 charges of grapple hook

Gadget/C4/RPG Nerf:#👂┇game-feedback message

Option for "sprint always enabled" / auto sprint, or sprint/sliding interaction reworked(Please see this video, where it is described in detail https://youtu.be/tdOKEgrwZHc)

Option for more neutral background colors, too vibrant, causes eyestrain

Please give alternate team colors, colors are hard to distinguish

Allow for separate Jump/Vault keybinds on MNK

Allow access to the keybinds config file for improved keybind options

Using scroll wheel for jump/vault causes inconsistency, please fix/address

Improve subregion matchmaking(always low ping)

built in performance and network indicators FPS, ping, packet loss

Input based matchmaking(no raw input/aim assist mixing).Full MNK support for console.This is probably the most important thing for longterm MNK playerbase - please dont be another apex, cod, halo which becomes controller dominated and unplayable as mnk!Gyro(no AA)can play with MNK

solo ranked queue w/ forced 1L1M1H team and role queue(separate ladder to current ranked)

In ranked mode, all teams start with 10k, instead of 0(more stakes when fighting early)

Option to disable TAA and all anti-aliasing(I beg!)

Reduce gas and dust particle opacity

ladders do not autoclimb

[soft whale]

Anyone else getting error code TAV0012/TAV1012 after a game ends??

[lone wedge]

why can’t i change my crosshair colour i’m on playstation. any help?

[strong dagger]

SBMM doesnt exist in this game lmao

[bitter dragon]

feels like the light dagger needs a little bit of "utility gimmick" to help it survive after an encounter. I suggest either:

• makes you move a bit faster when having it equipped (maybe have it effect wears off if you switch to your gadget or smth)
• makes your health bar fade a bit faster after being tag by a bullet (people would still be able to gun you down if they have good track aim, but would helped a lot if they miss for a bit)
• makes gadget such as turret or mines react just a tiny bit slower when having it equipped
  obviously not all at once, but either one can help tremendously i hope.

[inner hill]

not taking this game seriously until they fix every player in their mom's basement having instant snapping shroud aim never missing a shot

[ornate badger]

You need to adjust the color values till you get what you want. There is no direct selector.
Red - Green - Blue | in the Menu

[upper saddle]

To help separate the Fcar from the AKM in terms of identity within the Sandbox a possible rework will help pull it into line with other weapons both soothing the masses while preserving it as a long range plinking rifle for more defensive players and team compositions within Medium's kit.

Proposed Balance changes I've come up with after long discussions with several people who've swapped to it from the AKM as their main weapon and believe it needs a nerf-

Reduce it's rate of fire from 600 RPM to 500 RPM and increase it's damage from 26 to 28 while giving it a 10% Range Increase. This will reduce it's point blank DPS from 260 to 233.3 bringing it more in line with Medium's other weapons, as it stands the M11 has a point blank DPS of 274 which makes the Fcar comparable to it in close quarters.

In addition to increasing the Magazine size of the AKM to 40 and reducing it's reload time to 2 seconds from 2.3 it will help these two weapons stand out from each other and players will have valid reasons to take one over the other depending on their team composition and what they're facing in a match rather than every medium always opting to carry the Fcar in every match.

[frank talon]

yeah I already won a game in 2v3v3v3, it's still possible and it made me gain some skill learning how to play with a disadvantage

[quartz whale]

The recon sense should be limited at 50m, currently the range is almost unlimited ! It currently works as a Wallhack

[smoky storm]

Mostly agree with the proposed changes; would love to see this paired with a general gunsight fix so sights correctly line up to center of screen, instead of being misleading as the current implementation is.

Only things I disagree with is FCAR does not need range increase, it's effective range is already high enough. AKM does not need mag size increase, either. Rest I agree with.

[autumn dagger]

My take 85 hours in:
-Actual cooldown for Cloak, also make cloaked more visible
-XP54 damage range nerf
-Stun gun down to 2.5 & reduced distance
-Remove aim assist from PC client
-Overtime if someone stealing cashout
-Flamethrower also decreased damage direct hit/burn remain same
-Heavy class reduced health by 25
-Regen time based on class (Light fastest upto Heavy slowest) or add Stim gadget

[proud kernel]

I bursted a good laugh bro, you have good takes and so mucb biased takes. Do you think people would q ranked to wait 10 minutes? Why would anyone want to play 1L 1H 1M? And theres so much unnecessary shit i wont even bother arguing back just go outside or make you own damn game

[prisma ether]

also need to do something about light shotgun. and possibly ttk on lights. it seems that lights die too easy and every other their weapon isnt really comparable to medium or heavy in terms of ttk vs lights. so unless medium is drunk light has no real chance to kill medium with fcar since they need like 0.7 even with v9s while medium needs 0.3-0.5 with fcar.

[vivid hatch]

Please add the Stick skin for the Sword with the next store refresh:

[daring fossil]

or the baseball bat. I also want the Lego LH1 skin

[ornate badger]

Teammates, multiple, both.
Imagine you load, you are winning and suddenly both your teamates are gone. It’s happened to me, and it sucked for a little till I got backfilled and then we went on to win. It’s unfair to not have your team restocked because it puts people at a severe disadvantage. You could be the saving grace another player is waiting for,
But you only think about your playtime and not the experience of the others that need reinforcements.

[frank talon]

Did not play a lot today, out of 8 games, 5 were already started and 3 out of 5 my team was already losing.
They must do something about it

[sudden tangle]

Why the fk do I (plat 3) get put into the same lobby as ettnix and ottr?!?!?!?! They are literally rank 1 grinders. What the fk

[golden panther]

ranks aren’t actually ranks in this game hope they fix it

[daring fossil]

probably cuz nobody wants to play against sweaters and cheaters. I'd bet less than a 1/3 of the player base plays ranked so it puts everyone it can together so you don't wait in queue for 10 minutes

[smoky storm]

Why would rank Q take 10 minutes? A separate ladder, full solo queue would likely bring a huge amount of additional players into ranked who avoid it specifically because solo queuing into 3 stacks is not a very enjoyable experience. IDC really if it's forced 1L1M1H, I just figured it would help curb cheese strats and let players play what they want without worrying about being called a troll for choosing light class. Either way, somewhere to play on even footing in a solo queue would be very welcome. One of the major issues games like Apex (and the finals) face is that being a solo against even a semi-coordinated 3 stack is a massive disadvantage and not enjoyable for many players, who instead just don't play ranked as a result. I have a 3 stack myself but that's one of the most common complaints I see as to why players avoid rank, both in the finals and apex.

Otherwise, most of my suggestions are needed nerfs(like nukes) or quality of life requests.

[ornate badger]

That’s because people are ragequitting after not dominating the match. People need to stop being sore losers and see the round through. This is a game where you can turn it around at the last minute and win, but people just want to pull out and ruin everyone else’s fun.

[lavish shard]

SBMM kill the game in QP good works dev 👏👏

[civic hare]

please nerf the nuke, its impossible to counter that shit as a light

[native portal]

day 11 of asking for rank based matchmaking for season 2

[lapis pollen]

I won't give up till you bring back the holding backstab of dagger, you know, I can do this all day

[white crater]

UPDATES TO MY FEEDBACK:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13wvf7qTcwX084-x3ECtuYPGS9RnC0RYnneQfF3dyrek/edit

Suggestion (S) Index:
S1 - SA1216
S2 - Reload animations
S3 - SA1216's cycling
S4a - Medium's GL
S4b - Medium's Mines
S5 - Addtl. Medium Rifle Options
S6 - Medium Gadget: Javelin
S7 - New Mode: Gold Rush
S8 - New Mode: Hot Potato?
S9 - Riot Shield Buffs
S10 - Show Contracts on Pause
S11 - Career Stat Tourneys Won
S12 - Multiplayer Training

[daring fossil]

the charge on the dagger is the only reason why I haven't bothered trying it on release

[amber compass]

U can't counter it on any 1 it's broken af

[queen cloud]

but if ranked is about how much you play that isn't fair either.
You can be a trash player and diamond.

Also what about top 1000-2000 players?

[frank talon]

Stun, glitch nade

[native portal]

what do you mean, its already about how much you play right now lol its always going to be about how much you play because fame points have no limit so you can just grind 16 hours a day and be in the top 100

anyone can be diamond right now if they just play enough, at least with rank based you dont get bronze 4 or unranked vs diamond or top 10 players which can happen right now

[long moth]

GGG

[tough kiln]

So I decided to start reporting players for nuking under "Exploiting." Every time I submit a report I tell Embark I'll stop reporting when they take it out of the game. Maybe if enough of us don't they will take it out lol

Mainly the C4 on carryables nukes. I don't mind RPGs as much even though they could take another small nerf.

[pliant rock]

Light specialisation idea (or general gadget if balanced properly): hazard mask, counters smoke and gaz effects. Blocks ADS, rechargeable

[modern sparrow]

Can we rename the big splash to the big sadge?

[quick coyote]

FREE "reWASD" CHEAT AIMBOT, WHEN BAN????? 37 000 PLAYERS USING FREE AIMBOT, AND YOU DO NOTHING!!!!!!!

[ancient holly]

well i know i already talked about how the "Space Rock Skipper" is for me as of now the worst achievement to get not because it's hard but because RNG is pure BS i've played now from 1:00 PM to 2:20 PM (GMT-3) and got 0 alien invasion events and the actual meteor event (around 7 unranked games), and i've come up with a 3rd way to make this achievement doable and it is: add a game mode where each day of the week will have a confirmed event like and the whole round that event occurs, the game has 7 events and a week has 7 days so it matches but not only that but make it happened through all the round like from start to finish for example low gravity will be applied until the timer ends or someone wins.

to address why i my self see this as worse than the "Fatal Florist" or the "Charitable Donation" is because they at least depend on the player skill and strategy for example i can try'n do them with the light class and escape danger until i see a player who could die to 1 throw or i could go with medium and put the sentry on the box or plant to get the enemy health down and then throw the box/plant or go with heavy and try to quick melee someone to drain their health until it dies with the throw, this has a lot of player input but the "Space Rock Skipper" is almost none the only input is to go to the area where it is happening (if it even occurs) and place down a jump pad and pray for RNGesus.

[manic moat]

get a better anti cheat

[dawn grove]

the devs are working on tons of different things, the cheaters are annoying i agree. once they have a solidified plan and execution they will take that into play

[sudden tangle]

Wouldn't say nobody plays ranked, and cheating and sweating surely deters some people, but if the game doesn't make a good, stable ranked environment the game won't really survive. Same for a casual environment with constant content (events, seasonal gamemodes etc). Ranked needs good matchmaking, good balance so all 3 classes are viable, crosshair alignment and rng reduction ingeneral, and more ranked rewards and more ranks!

[hoary burrow]

remove aim assist. do something about the cheaters

[plucky meteor]

We really need a new game mode and the ability to do private games so we can play with bigger parties

[long moth]

AASD

[frozen ice]

yes 100%

[twilit plank]

They should just add an option similar to Crossplay that opts you out of matching with aim assist, then they can just fight one another 🙂

(even though I don't think Aim Assist is really an issue..)

[coral axle]

Penguins PC need to be included!

[celest shore]

Please optimize the game for better FPS I'm on my knees 😢 I should not be getting the same frames on the lowest settings vs the highest ones.

[keen tartan]

Steam deck support please 🥺

[void horizon]

If you use Nvidia, rollback to previous driver version. The Nvidia “Game ready THE FINALS” drivers actually fuck performance on most GPU’s. All stuttering went away once I did, I also gained 40fps more on average. Going from 70 or drops to 40 normally to solid 110-120

[marsh oriole]

R E M O V E N U K E T H A N K S

[vivid spoke]

A reset button for the training room would be cool 🙂

[quick coyote]

Moolah plushies!!!!

[drifting blaze]

So they're only using ai for new lines, and they will patch them with real acting later?

[wooden oasis]

YES, WE WANT THEM! And we can make them!

[quick coyote]

software user for aim assist on kb and script recoil is crazy

[tired crescent]

No, they will probably stick to using AI lines for the foreseeable future since they've built this fancy system for it too

[fiery spear]

which driver version are you using right now can you let me know please i will try to roll back

[quick coyote]

IM DOOMED
UPDATE PLS
IM SAD

[tranquil skiff]

Please add arena throwables (gas, explosive, flame tanks) to Skyway Stadium. It makes absolutely zero sense that you have them for all maps but that one l

[void horizon]

Driver version is dependant on what gpu you use. The best way this is done is using the DDU tool to completely remove the driver, download the previous version from Nvidias website, and install manually (not with GeForce app)

There is a really good guide on this on Nvidia’s subreddit, just click the pinned convo at the top of their Reddit, it’s a discussion on drivers

[daring fossil]

still waiting for the black elvis skin and the alien blaster from the launch trailer

[sharp slate]

For everyone having Integrity Problems with Easy Anti Cheat. If you have the Riotgames Launcher running in the background (not Taskbar) it will cause problems.

[frank stag]

i thought it was just me bro lol i was freaking out because i just switched gpu and i thought it was bugging

[noble heron]

Need to rework the Rez system, so many times when i am exactly on my teammate with the defibrillator and they dont get rezzed

[pure gyro]

This happens to me too and I’ll be forced to slow rez

[pliant rock]

the guitar is black too, looks sick. Maybe its gonna be a recolor thing like in apex (unlockable colors only if you have the original skin)

[daring fossil]

they will probably sell it as a bundle in the store like they did with the white ballerina (also includes a pistol skin that the black bundle from battlepass doesn't have)

[pure gyro]

I don’t die to nukes to often. I don’t see much of a problem with them. I don’t use them but they are funny to see in videos

[crimson obsidian]

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I'd love to be able to name my contestant builds for faster recognition

[rustic raft]

Keeps disconnecting me from every match and every round and cant even join back half of the time. Please fix this. Been having this problem since yesterday and didn’t have any before that.

[lofty forge]

we need to make a mmr gap on how far up ranks you can play (Example: You Cannot Que MMR Difference Is Above 1500-2000) nukes need taken out we need a recoil rework on FCAR its crazy compared to light and medium build guns we need to see a line of the cloak on light players we need to see the healer heal a little bit more ***AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE REMOVE FRIENDLY DAMAGE TO POISION MINES AND EXPLOSIVE STUFF PLEASE i should not get posioned or boom boomed to a friendly device ***!!!!!!!!!

[quick coyote]

H U G E U P D A T E W H E N

[marsh oriole]

G A M E N E E D S H U U U G E U P D A T E

[proud flame]

More preset slots when

[celest shore]

:< I use AMD

[void scarab]

ngl, the game is great but one of it's massive flaws is that there's such a big defib meta.. it's getting really annoying

[noble heron]

🇳🇱 Tournament
Nog 1

[alpine jungle]

Just use AMD stop wasting money

[warped delta]

MAKE ME A MODERATOR SO I CAN ADD VCS TO THIS DISCORD WE NEED IT BAD AND IVE BEEN MAKING DISCORD SERVERS FOR 3 YEARS IVE HELPED WITH RAINBOW SIX AND ROCKET LEAGUE DISCORDS OVER THE YEARS

[quick coyote]

H U G E U P D A T E W H E N

[lament talon]

getting a bug where i cannot run anymore alot of times now on heavy

Its so often this bug occurs too but I cant provide any footage here

[proud flame]

Next time eat a salad

[soft vapor]

BAN CHEATS, better matchmaking, other than that the game is fun, engaging and encourages team play more than most FPSs I’ve played in awhile. If you can get rid of cheaters in an effective and quick way, I think the player base will respond with more respect and loyalty behind a game we all want to see do well!

[prisma ether]

most of these suggestions are absolute bull sh**. Light are already weakest by a long shot. make their cloak not cloak and its just waste. its already quite easy to see them. removing friendly dmg on poison and explosion opens a ton of exploiting like dropping poison on point and teammate camping in the poison cloud near it. Healer already heals more than too much... and if anything heal needs a nerf.

[dawn grove]

[inland hare]

I like the cards throwing knives skin in the battle pass they very cool

[void horizon]

??? AMD is and has always been the classic, the og, the real main character when it comes to fucked drivers. I’m guessing you’re a child

[eager sinew]

on my stream have i so many here will play with me, but custom games dont not in the game, i hope custom games will come soon

[tall ledge]

hello dont know if this is the right chat but I am having an issue where I cant join voice chat. Does anyone know a fix to this? I have team chat enabled in my settings but it wont even let me hear my teammates

[tribal shard]

nah the real fucked up drivers are Intel's lol by a huge margin

[thick fiber]

why is the kangaroo hoodie from career progression "OSPUZE yellow" and not "The Finals yellow", literally unplayable, my experience is ruined 🤣
the black one with the yellow Finals logo also has the same issue

[glossy plank]

can someone help me, i have an error code that says integrity violation and i just get kicked out of the game. Ive tried a lot of tips but nothing seems to work.

[drifting blaze]

Eww

[rancid skiff]

Can't be giving people work here. In this area we aim to fire and remove as many humans as possible from the equation!

[lament heron]

FIX THE RANKED SYSTEM AND THE AIM ASSIST PLEASE!!!

[weary hill]

We need private lobbies. I wanna play 1v1v1 with my frands.

[earnest sierra]

EAC now saying im using an unallowed software while all what in the tray is msi AB and discord and other amd and nvidia programms🤡
this anti cheat system is halirouis

[south brook]

please add steam deck support

[lavish shard]

an idea for a nerf rework for recon sense to make the targets less visible so you can't preshot them and maybe an indicator when you're seen

[quick coyote]

In my opinion Embark should drop the arc raiders game and focus on the finals at this point. I’d rather spend money on a game I know that’ll be supported and continue than a game that might get discontinued at some point

[sudden tangle]

Hello hi I would like to deposit a complaint about heavy nukes, recon sight, defibs, L not having 175hp, lax matchmaking in ranked. Am I in the right place?

[ebon peak]

Hello,, MnK support on Ps5 please 🙏

[tall ledge]

@void horizon please kick this guy from the discord he is toxic and racist

[worthy adder]

this game is great guys, though cloak is op asf on light build its essentially a free win

[sharp slate]

Why are there Performance Issues after a couple of hours? Have to restart the game to have the game not chug. It's not the FPS it's steady but it's lagging on the client. After restarting the game everythings smooth again.

[quick coyote]

TRUE
Arc Raiders is not surely successful.
Think and put more power on The finals.
If they fail this, people think there is no next.

[bleak coral]

I seem to get that too but after around 4h, instead of being above 200 fps like usual I'm at 140 at beginning of match... quite weird but I remember this being a problem in other games too so maybe there's no solution apart from restarting client

[broken fulcrum]

Ive really been enjoying my time on the finals but 1 significant problem has accord to me. If i am in a ranked game and either someone gets disconnected and doesnt join back or if someone quits, there should be a loss forgiveness system so i dont lose any ranked points.

[quick coyote]

Add new modes

[drifting blaze]

Ain't it fun

[outer moon]

i love the game , i hope there will be a mode for 4 players so you can play with more friends , but im pretty sure you will make the best out of this game ❤️

[cursive mountain]

can a casual like me get gud?

[maiden flax]

yuh, stop being casual and be formal

[woven cobalt]

what do you think? will there be some boost for the battlepass?

[sweet current]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD: FIX THE CRASHES!!! ALL THE TIME

[fervent ether]

obligatory add linux support post

[sand sable]

Nerf wallhack recon

[hard wasp]

Please add viking outfit for heavy thank you. Hammer should be Mjolnir.

[verbal plinth]

Add kbm an option to console

[cursive mountain]

ahem im still quite takes a sip of tea forgive my language , still sh*t at the game

[fossil rock]

Light desperately needs a buff in my opinion. The light abilities are by far the most fun in the game, but the character is genuinely worthless in competitive play, as medium or heavy have far more utility. The way you can just sneeze on a light and they die makes them pointless to play if you’re playing to win.

[leaden topaz]

its okay to just admit you dont understand what hes talking about 🙂

[thorny socket]

Found a visual bug, if you climb something(only bugged with taller climbs) and hold the shoot button halfway through the climb the animation for throwing won't start but you will throw the knives that's with throwing knives equipped

[lofty whale]

any chance we can get something new soon? another mode? new guns? anything?
possibly a game mode where you can actually have more than 3 players on the team too would be good. sucks having a group of 4 or 5 wanting to play and you're limited to only 3

[coral hawk]

Feedback: remove nukes and uptime of recon needs to be half

[grizzled vortex]

not enough black hairstyles

[brittle harness]

Please remove bots 😉

[untold girder]

I have had multiple ranked matches only give me 1 other teammate. We've been able to pull out one round win but are severely handicapped. Idk why this is happening but I lose 100 fame points every time.

[rose surge]

FIX THE HACKS!!! Everyone is using reWASD!! Just give pc aim assist why not at this point?

[cedar fulcrum]

make more classes instead of l m and h maybe have classes like light medium and medium heavy

[fossil rock]

Maybe I’m just getting trolled but I don’t see how this could be a skill issue?? Light is without a doubt the least useful character in the game. Compared to the abilities of medium and heavy, they bring literally nothing to the table. Medium is by far the best in my opinion, but I want light to be viable because it’s so much fun.

[jovial bluff]

just release the damn update😭

[polar burrow]

Your job as a light is to harrass the enemy, not go toe to toe with them. You will get evaporated if you square up to a mid or heavy. Go in, poke, get out. Finish enemies if you have the chance. The light is a menace when used right.

[bleak coral]

Strong disagree, there's not many but there's one light I play with that actually abuses other teams and completely dismantles them. It's the highest skill ceiling class and over buffing them to make light easy to play in comp will make the game more insufferable than the nuke meta

[inner hill]

Instead of crossplay on/off. Have an option to disable aim assist lobbies

[subtle tree]

seriously some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen. take your high skill cap game and drop that shit on the floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUaBj2ZxMkM @quick coyote @dense niche

gonna keep reposting this so more people see it. Fuck the finals, you don't need REWASD to be an aim cheater, "recoil suppression" is built into the game. I'm not playing until this shit is gone. 136.6 hours, level 38, completed battlepass. im gone.

[silver crest]

i just want sbmm

[fossil rock]

@polar burrow I understand light commands a certain pokey-pokey play style. What I don’t understand is why the character with the least health has the least killing potential and also the least strategic utility. Without a doubt it’s a high skill ceiling, but that’s only because it’s so genuinely garbage that you have to be worlds ahead of your opponents in skill to be viable. Why would you design a character to be worthless in a fair matchup?

Also for runty specifically, the light you play with sounds like they’re just really good at the game. I’d imagine they’d do even better if they played medium. I don’t think buffing them would make them the meta, I think it would just bring them into contention. As they’re currently built, lights have no place in fairly-matched competitive play.

[upper holly]

Is there anyone here that can give me a solution to the TFL 0002, I have tried everything already

[rose surge]

That's just a mechanic, and aim assist is wayyy more OP than that.

[subtle tree]

you're right on both accounts, and it's still complete ass. it's a counter intuitive mechanic that is not explained anywhere in game, and it negates other mechanics. Fuck The Finals.

[lament cave]

you have to go to https://id.embark.games/id/sign-in and link your steam account manually

[ancient holly]

this is very nice devs thanks for making this "Space Rock Skipper" i've played 17 unranked games today to only 1 of them having space invasion with none having the meteor event, and on my one chance you give me a middle finguer and say, "no, none of the missiles will hit your jump pad". I think it will be funny if i get banned for people reporting me for "trolling" when i'm actually trying to get a shitty achievement

[prisma ledge]

Hi, I decided to go back to the finals. But I keeplosing connection for the first match every time I launch the game. Rly, rly, rly tierd of it. Since I basicly die, then relog and die again cuz my team is getting steamrolled.

The cheaters are doing such a great job ruining the gaming experiance and now on top of that is that the first game always results in lost connection and therby half a game where im basicly dead.

[alpine jungle]

Oooof we are under 100K players on steam on the Finals its been above 100k average all month. Now the past 24 hours we are at 89K that is 11k under our average. Gamebreaking metas being abused and cheating is making this game lose players. Hopefully they dont let this game sink.

[remote citrus]

im sure everyone has said this, but nukes need to go. breach charge + tanks is uncounterable

[orchid island]

maybe having APS turrets being able to shoot down explosive barrels could help

[bleak coral]

... it has the greatest killing potential boasting the two highest dps weapons - db shotgun and m11.
it has the most game changing strategic utility - disabling EVERY single ability of every class with 2 of its gadgets....
by design - the light class has least health, most utility, most dps from main weapons, most mobility (tho i think mobility could be buffed as medium has jump and zip which kind of outshine lights movement).
not to be arrogant, but I've played a lot of this game and have been here since alpha.
light needs fine tuning, not an overall buff.
heavy needs a slight nerf, and more fine tuning.
medium needs a rework to their weapons.

buffing light will make everyone complain about light. yes heavy has nuke meta atm but that will go, after that i dont want a light meta - thanks!

[sonic spoke]

Shoot it out of their hands and blow them up. Happens to me most times i try to nuke lol. It is not easy to be good at nuke.

[opal leaf]

Embark plz
-Remove C4 barrel aka Nukes, everytime someone put a C4 on a barrel and throw it the barrel will actually be thrown at 5/10 meters and no more

-Recon sense need to be reduce by a lot, make it so when it's activated you can't disactivate it and have to wait for the cooldown + reduce the max distance it can show the players from 15 miles to 50 meters (it seems more reasonable) if you want to kill this ability (and you should) also make it a pulse wallhack more like Paik in 2042.

-Heavy weapons mainly lewis and Shotgun need to be nerf by a lot , it's HEAVY it has protection and assist role not being able to kill a full team with one mag

-Heavy Mesh shield health need to be reduce from 1100 to 900

-When we shot a mine make them disappear and not be triggered otherwise it has the exact effect that we want to avoid.

-Reduce max RPG damage from 150 to 100

-Same thing for Invisibility cloack , make it so when you activate it you can't disactivate and has to wait the cooldown, also increase the cooldown duration

-Remove invulnerability when getting defib
Embark ty

[upper holly]

Hey Miller, I already did that, and its there, and I have unlink and link 3 times already

[quick coyote]

Try to delete all your loadouts and remake them, worked for me atleast

[lament cave]

I don't even play this game, that was just the first result on google. I got no other solution

[fossil rock]

After thinking about it a bit I think I agree. You make good points with the stun/glitch abilities. I think light just needs stronger mobility as a reason to pick them over other classes. Medium having movement abilities that are arguably better than light kind of ruins that aspect of the character. Maybe buff grapple?

[hazy otter]

Please make the turret for the medium class less powerfully or atleast weaker because I had 12 deaths to the dang turrets in one

[bleak coral]

its obviously very difficult to play light competitively but that is the devs design choice and i hope they stick by that, i could see light with the jumppad tbh but i think its too late to give light that. hopefully we get some good changes to light that dont break the balance of the game whilst making light more enjoyable and less frustrating to play 🙂

[subtle tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUaBj2ZxMkM
"How could we make the game feel like ass?"
"I've got an idea! Hidden mechanics that break the game design!"
"Oh great idea! Let's go!"

edit: @sand sable
@quick coyote randomized recoil doesnt matter when you've got this shit. watch the video.

[sand sable]

Fix wallhack and nukes

[brisk edge]

Why do I keep getting stuck in fucking everything. God that shit is so fucking annoying

[bright herald]

hey can anyone help me with the gfame crahsing?

[quick coyote]

@feral osprey @fickle linden @wispy palm @rare spear @pearl kiln @dense niche @quick coyote @rustic bloom The technical solution to recoil-reversing scripts is to randomize recoil. That way scripts can't memorize recoil patterns for each weapon and reverse them. Recoil patterns are just sequences of number pairs (e.g. first bullet moves aim left by 3.5 degrees and 5 degrees up, 2nd bullet moves aim left by 3.1 deg and 4.2 deg up). This can be expressed as (3.5, 5), (3.1, 4.2), (x, y), (x2, y2), (x3, y3), etc. To reverse it is very easy and to cancel recoil you just add this to the aim (-3.5, -5), (-3.1, -4.2), (-x, -y), (-x2, -y2), (-x3, -y3).

When you add the recoil sequence and the recoil-cancel sequence you get 0 deg change in both left & up camera movements.

[long knoll]

Since the Full Release, the Game is so Unoptimized that i cannot Stream it anymore.. It's just not outright Playable while Streaming. This was not the case during Beta, as i was able to easily Stream during then.

Issues:

1. Launch takes 2-3 Minutes, Screen stays completely Black for about 1.5 Mins before you get the Black Finals Loading Screen with Glitch Effect.
2. First Game after a Fresh Launch is always EXTREMELY Laggy.. This existed in Beta as well.
3. There are Occasional Lag Spikes and Freezes throughout Gameplay.
4. Hackers.
5. New Map, Las Vegas is Trash. Too Open, not much Height Variation.
6. Broken Weapons, Such as the Pistol, Medium's Shotgun, Mesh Shield.

Suggestions:

1. Allows Weapon Modifications that add no changes to Weapon Stats, but only help the User play better such as RedDot or Holographic Sights, Suppressors, Lasers/Flashlights.
2. If you're running out of Ideas for more Weapons and Abilities, why not let Builds Share them as Nerfed and/or Buffed Versions? Such as a Small Captain America Mesh Shield for Light, Healing Revolver like TF2's Healer SMG with Syringe Ammo for Light, Deployable Slingshot (Instead of Deployable Zipline from Medium) for Heavy, Grenade Launcher Turret with Much Shorter Range for Heavy, Throwing Axes for Medium, Traps (Explained in Suggestion#3) for Medium, etc.
3. How about Ability or Gadget to Trap Deployable Equipment and/or Arena Carriables? If Enemy uses Trapped Equipment, they get stunned. But in case of Arena Carriable, the Carriable Explodes upon throwing (Not Dropping or Picking) The Carriable Trap can be given to Heavy and Stun Trap can be given to Medium.
4. How about a Jungle Map? Pyro Nades and Flamethrower might be OP on this one. And Ofcourse, a TDM Gamemode with 5v5 Teams and a Target of 15-20 Kills.
5. Add more Slots for Build Presets, at least 12.

Misc:
Please give Environmental Damage to Grenade Launchers, anything that causes Explosions such as Frags and Explosive Mines.

[marble quartz]

• “Shooting A Mine” should make it disappear. Makes no sense to spot a Gas Mine shoot it just to activate it lmao.
• Turret is way too overpowered. No one has time or wants to shoot a turret out. Gives our position away leading to death.

[karmic whale]

Support for Mouse in PS5 Please !!!

[polar burrow]

I think we need more gadgets / abilites that counter other gadgets and abilities cause having to rely only on the glitch grenades isn't enough

[subtle tree]

This game is gonna die. Hidden mechanics, terrible netcode, clipping issues, crosshair does not line up with aimpoint, hackers, constant crashes, and radio silence from the devs. I took part in the cash grab, they got me. Don't let them get you.

edit; @bleak coral I will. i put almost 150 hours in and I'm realizing just how much that was a waste of time. This game styles itself as competitive, yet it panders to the lowest common denominator - controller players. its a bad pc port of a game built for consoles.

[bleak coral]

stay mad lmao

i have 500h over the playtests and release and no regrets xD

[queen cloud]

yup. Especially when aps doesn't even work half the time. I've tried placing aps quickly right when i see nuke. If the player has half a brain cell and blows it right before it reaches me i still die.

APS range too low
There is not counter to nukes atm. Only chance you have it spotting it from far away soo u have time to shoot it or ran away.
Best counter upclose is placing jumpad right away(medium only) 😄

[fiery moat]

name discord StunningPioneer#7416 cheating whallack

[sand sable]

Fix wallhack and nukes

@lavish shard You have no clue

[lavish shard]

Skill issue invisible boy

[umbral mirage]

need a third for tournments na

[kind gyro]

im in silver 2 and we've had a cheater in each game

[hidden moss]

Remove Engagement Optimized Matchmaking from this game.

I’m totally done with this piece of shit as of today.

EOMM is so fucking predatory you should absolutely be ashamed that you put it in this game that had so much potential.

For those in the chat that don’t know what it is, it purposely rigs your games so you play the maximum amount of time.

It’s why you keep getting bronze and silver players on your team when you’re gold, but have to go against platinum players.

Google it.

It’s not bad matchmaking, it’s not sbmm.

It’s working exactly as it’s designed to.

Its absolutely in this game and it’s a fucking shame

[spice stag]

give me this inspect animation back

[summer mica]

1. Min top to load to the game with more then half of that time "initializing window".

2. Doesn't happen to me.

3. Agree, too much random shit going on but nothing extremely visible.

4. Cheaters, but agree.

5. Compared to the other ones, yes. Outdoors is extremely open. Indoors is cramped af. Highgrounds are very high.

6. Pistol got nerfed and is not even the best weapon for Light. Medium's shotgun is completely unplayble. Mesh shield, ye it's solid defense, but get behind him or just use Glitch nade...

7. No changes to the weapon stats? What's the point of it then? Everything mentioned wouldn't change the fact that one thing would be better then everything else.
   2.Weapons and equipment need rework definetly.
   3.Idk what i have read.
   4.Sounds good.

8. Why not.

Misc:
I was surprised my self that it doesn't destroy the Environment.

[proud locust]

let light also use sonar grenade so it’s easy for them when they push into fights and when not to push into fights

[karmic whale]

Matchmaking it´s not balanced. It´s imposible to play this way.

[verbal mountain]

Not ranked matchmaking isn't balanced

[quick coyote]

H U G E U P D A T E W H E N

[lean bluff]

just pls make the matchmaking stop throwing diamonds to gold lobbies

[subtle tree]

Strike the game.

Everybody stops playing until the devs address some issues, or at least give a roadmap. there is no reason for them to engage right now, players aren't leaving.

[hot flower]

can we get a private message system for friends that aren't added through steam? it's hard to coordinate and party up together because we've got no way to tell them we want to play besides inviting them and praying they aren't in a game

[lavish shard]

apparently all the problems of the game its recon sense I can't wait for the devs to kill it to see the same ones come crying for another nerf to ultimately end up with a code with destruction

[sand sable]

Fix wallhack and nukes

[dense yarrow]

I really feel that the Kill /Assist format is lacking in this game. I hate that I do 90% of the damage and my partner does that last 10% and he gets the kill recorded. I feel that you should only get an Assist if you 20% or less of the damage to a player. Then if you get more than 20% and your or one of your team mates gets the kill you should share the kill stat with them. This would stop the rounds where you have 11 assists and feel like you are doing nothing. Instead it would make the games feel more like you are team that is working together, not just 3 people where one is hoovering up all the kills.

[hoary turtle]

no hate at all, all love . but the backfill cycle is never ending , literally watch a team leave, and it then someone joins and see backfill and leaves and it just keeps happening lol. i mean easy wins for us but still 🙂

[frigid yacht]

Nerf Breach Charge/C4 + Explosive Throwables that 1 Shot all classes. This isn't Quake, there is virtually no counterplay at all. Nerf 3x Medium Defib spam and invulnerability. Do these things and the game would be perfect, everything else is fairly balanced.

[hardy yew]

there is a visual bug where if you are playing with a friend and you start searching for a game, in the lobby the little tab at the top of the screen that may say "bank it" for you always says "quick cash" for your friend

[wispy idol]

add text chat bro the fuck is this

[tacit gorge]

The game optimization is terrible. I have a Ryzen 5 5600x and an RX6750xt and my cpu is at 100% in TM everytime I play

[summer mica]

What games does this shit?

[median charm]

Did you see the numbers?

[cerulean trout]

complain if u cant hang

[sharp belfry]

Holy shit that's cringe lol