📂┇the-finals-wiki

[pearl fern]

idk if it’d be much more intuitive than, say, a small graph though

i do agree that damage numbers are better than percentages though, just keep in mind the falloff applies to both headshots and body shots so you’d need two results (whereas percentage applies to both)

and reconsidering, a slider would not be good, as it means you are forced to use the slider just to discover the range of falloff

[violet lance]

a small graph would also be cool

[lapis kindle]

the reason i liked the 3 values is because we can include it on the Infobox and anyone can update it easily if they have the values

also like Limoen said, you can read the info fast without having to figure out anything

[lapis kindle]

fyi, S2 cosmetics have been uploaded to Style and Bundles pages - next stop, charms and stickers

[sand venture]

anyone that saved the map that Dusty posted here some days ago and then pulled again?

EE would like to have a look at that 😅 Just following everything

[warm skiff]

“Light harm”

[violet lance]

There's a cornell box in the new map. Would be a good addition for the ingame EE page #easter-eggs message

[analog lava]

THE FINALS AIO 3.0 IS HERE!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kn__IxrPr68M_pRhLHqhvGK6nlwUnCtFaXWGk1pVgg0/edit#gid=655924873

[lapis kindle]

ah they finally found it - i was waiting for this

[lapis kindle]

it was removed after Dusty clarified it was not the correct version

[teal bloom]

Yo, you stopped putting them on reddit?

[teal bloom]

One more note on the damage w/reload, how much would the SA1216 damage be with the manual pump, does the 200RPM firerate take that into account?

[analog lava]

oh it's on reddit

[analog lava]

I didn't do manual pump, mostly because it is not the preferred method and is not default

[teal bloom]

What do you mean by that

Because if I fire the lewis gun and SA1216 for a minute stratight, I would take the damage output of that and divide it by 60, that's the 'real world' DPS

I think in this case Lewis gun outperforms on DPS

[pearl fern]

even the All in one spreadsheet does not have falloff information 😔

also guess i should mention the sledgehammer says "backstab 1 shot" but that's just a crit/overhead swing not a backstab

[teal bloom]

@analog lava One more question on the sheet, FCAR kills medium in 0.9s but DPS is 250, how is that the case?

[analog lava]

I have some information that’s getting worked on

[analog lava]

I might have miscalculated the DPS lol

[teal bloom]

Yeah i'm seeing some inconsistencies, some weapons have similar DPS but different TTK

I don't mind helping you out with it

I think adding the manual pump in the SA1214 part of the DPS/reload also makes sense since it captures the whole lifecycle of the magazine not just pure DPS

[tulip torrent]

I needed a sheet like this 😂 thanks for putting in the effort!

[static light]

I thought this was common knowledge

[lapis kindle]

don't steal my phrases from me now

[storm jay]

why do you need to see it? What is the most important is the effective range, where TTK starts dropping. So we need to see 1 number only. Everything else to range is not important, because you need to learn how to stay within the effective range, not how far it drops.
And it's mostly linear across the games I played for the last like 15 years. I would be very surprised if they make it non-linear (not sure why would they ever do it)
It's how other games show the weapons stats - range is the max range before falloff

[pearl fern]

i don't know what you are arguing against exactly. that message you replied to is about damage, not range. yes the wiki lists the range but of course it will also list other relevant numbers.
in that message, i explained that if maximum damage falloff were shown as damage instead of a percentage, you would need to distinguish between regular and crit damage. your answer is about range though.

[storm jay]

Yep, might miss the exact message I reply to 🙂

it was just points againts the slider. It's not practical imho and I haven't seen it in similar spreadsheets for other games.

[pearl fern]

if you mean the next message, a slider that shows how much damage is dealt whenever the user inputs a certain range, is not that helpful, as the most helpful number (range) is the range at which falloff begins, as you said, and after that the range at which falloff stops. but with a slider you can only see one number at a time.

[storm jay]

I would argue you don't need to show the RANGE for falloff. Just max range for optimal TTK

[pearl fern]

yes, that range is currently shown

like this:

[storm jay]

I wonder why it's not in the spreadsheet (it's probably answered somewhere above but I haven't seen it)?

[pearl fern]

the person working on the spreadsheets says they have something in the works.

i didnt know you were talking about the spreadsheet.this chat is mostly about the wiki so you would need to specify that

[storm jay]

as a humble suggestion Destiny Weapons breakdown structure might be a good reference how this information has been curated in a community for 10 years

[pearl fern]

so yeah, i see now that you were talking about the spreadsheet, and that is not what i was talking about in the message you replied to, i was talking about the purple infobox above.
if you want to give a suggestion about the spreadsheet, you should instead ping the user ValkyrieAim about it. i agree with you that the 'falloff start range' is the only relevant info for that spreadsheet. for the wiki, we want to show every bit of info.
but its their project, not something i am working on. so ping them

[storm jay]

ok, thanks for clarifications

summoning @analog lava for visibility 🙂

[analog lava]

Uh oh

[analog lava]

Oh yeah I have a mega data sheet another user has worked on that wanted me to share the info, as well as hip fire cone spread + variables

[pearl fern]

mega data sheet? Is this the one by Appoh or another user?

[analog lava]

I’d have to check my DMs but I do recognize the us rname

No not Appoh, he both uses my data and his is mostly strategies not information

[pearl fern]

[sharp fox]

We’re do you find stats like this?

[pearl fern]

well, unfortunately we don’t have a hotline to Embark (as far as i know) so i just test in the practice range!
For the falloff range distance, i’ll fire a shot at the dummy and make a note of the amount of health notches that it took as damage, e.g. 2.3 notches. Then i kill the dummy.
Then i step back 10 meters and try again, until the amount of lost notches becomes lower than 2.3.
If this happens at 50m, i would carry out additional tests between 40m and 50m until i find the exact point where damage falloff begins.
I’ll use the same process but inverted for the max falloff range.
I plot out the results of each of my distance tests between those distances, and that will allow me to approximate the damage falloff function. The numbers are then slightly rounded based on what would be realistically implemented.

[sharp fox]

You make them cool

[pearl fern]

[sand venture]

whoever is working on the EE pages. probably Smashel or Spear.

Level 2 Tier 3 is solved

[heavy gale]

took your time

[lapis kindle]

all S2 BP and Store cosmetics have been uploaded to their respective categories

[pearl fern]

@lapis kindle i think these two prices are reversed
i have swapped them around but wanted to let you know

[lapis kindle]

yup ty! those are common mistakes when uploading so many cosmetics 😅

[edgy zephyr]

I love your lore content keep it up homie

[pearl fern]

@lapis kindle Would you like it if the 'list of gadgets' page used Embark's renders for the equipment pages? personally i feel like these may be a better representation of how embark intended for the gadgets to look as icons, instead of trying to squish the transparent screenshot into that small box. If they look like the icons in the game people may recognize them better. Of course the image on the actual page would still be a transparent screenshot.

I know you intended to take new screenshots at some point, so if you do think that using a small screenshot of the model would look better than the in-game icon, then we could at least use these modern icons until you find the time to make those new screenshots, after which you simply revert the page. For now the page looks outdated either way. if you do think using embark's renders would look good, then this would save you some time as i have collected all of those icons from the game already.

image: current gadgets page vs. proposed change

[lapis kindle]

go for it

awesome work

let’s just keep the ones you created. so feel free to create/update them from now on

on that same note, you could do the Weapon icons as well for visual consistency

[pearl fern]

Thanks!
I have updated the following pages:
Gadgets, weapons, specializations. They are all updated now

[lapis kindle]

fantastic

[pearl fern]

Oh, actually, I'll have to update the Builds page as well. brb

OK, all done!
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Builds
let me know if there's any equipment card pages i missed

[lapis kindle]

i think all we need is the .png for the new specializations’ infoboxes

[pearl fern]

Just keep in mind that the images on the pages are still old in many places. e.g. the stun gun has an image of the yellow Stun gun from Beta . so those still need updating at some point!

[lapis kindle]

ye exactly. that’s ok, we can update them along the way!

[pearl fern]

I'll get some screenshots of the antigrav cube, the demat, and data reshaper. they'll be temporary.
if you want, i could also work on an image processor, which accurately removes the background from the in-game render view, as this would make it easy to generate new images for the infoboxes like you said.
i also created an image processing script for the levelup reward Icons, otherwise it would have been much more time consuming.

but: if there is another method you are already using to get these transparent renders, then i would be happy to hear about it.

[lapis kindle]

any method is fine by me as long as it works for your intended purposes. usually if it’s a one time thing i mask it myself

feel free to develop the images as you like, as long as they work for the infoboxes and visually follow the style of the ones we already have

[pearl fern]

Now they look like this, not 100% best quality but it will be sufficient for now

i just masked them by hand

yeah i just screenshot them the way they appear when you first 'click on them' (so without any rotating), i think that should be consistent

[lapis kindle]

those will work

[dry python]

Has there been any updates in regards to CNS, Scotty, the truth behind the walls ?

[pearl fern]

that is a question for #📕┇lore

[wooden herald]

Was gonna test this myself but it's probably worth asking first...

Does anyone know how long the magazine rotation animation lasts on the SA1216?

trying to derive its TTK in multiple scenarios

[wooden herald]

nevermind. just did my own testing. 1.1 seconds is what I've approximated.

[wooden herald]

it takes a whole 2 seconds to fire 5 shots into a Heavy to kill him. That's 1.1s for the magazine rotation in between shots + 0.9s total time spent shooting.

[minor finch]

Just checking, are we planning on moving these to the new cosmetics home page button?

right now it directs straight to wiki/Cosmetics, which is just 1 of 6

[heavy gale]

There is a plan to make a TP (transition page) for it but just trying to think of the most efficient way of doing it.

Career rewards and battlepass will probably move to the soon to come XP/Progression TP and then we may move the Cosmetics page contents itself to all be on the TP instead of having a separate page for it, so it'll look something like

but that also leaves the problem that due to the current Cosmetics page taking years to load due to the amount of pictures on it, it may take a while for the TP to load if we make it so all cosmetics are on the TP

[minor finch]

ah good to know!

I never considered how many images are on that page, at least they're small

[old citrus]

It might be worth doing something like loadouts, where your met with various pages when you click load outs. So clicking cosmetics could have a "page" for each catagory or combine a few of them. It'll still take ages to load the pages that have more then others and in the future as more cosmetics get added it'll only get worse but it might be a bandaid fix for now

Edit: also if this has already been mentioned before sorry! lol.

[tame flume]

@lapis kindle to you and the team who keep the wiki updated, keep up the great work
i truly appreciate it
adding firerate to the weapons might be a good idea, i know the firing TIME is already there but firerate might also be a good idea, both sustained and without reloading

sorry for the ping but i figured you wouldnt mind the appreciation and honest feedback

[gloomy stream]

I got a suggestion:
I would like to have a comment
about scotty on the wiki page, that Scotty is addicted to ospuzes/coffeine.

(Here is the line:)

Scotty: "I haven't been this hyped for a match since I drank 6 Ozpuzes™!"
June: "Scotty's deadly caffeine addiction aside, this is one exciting match!"

June could be just joking, but it would be nice to add that to the wiki side 🙂

[pearl fern]

hd images uploaded for the following pages,
Cloaking Device, Evasive Dash, Grappling Hook, Dematerializer, Guardian Turret, Healing Beam, Charge N Slam, Goo Gun, Mesh Shield

changed some specializations to use the model instead of the tablet display. (the tablet display can still be found elsewhere on the page)

Edit: also updated Dome shield and Stun gun since their appearance is the most different from their beta counterparts

[pearl fern]

added it, but feel free to add it yourself

[gloomy stream]

Yippie, thanks 😄

[gloomy stream]

Wait, I can also do that myself?

How do I do that? 😮

[hollow sapphire]

theres another similar one where scotty says something about drinking 6 or 8 of them and June says "hopefully the contestants can restrain themselves unlike Scotty" or somethinf

[gloomy stream]

Yeah! She said I think "Hopefully the contestants can restrain themselves unlike Scotty with his Ospuze addiction"

[pearl fern]

Find the login button, make an account, once you are logged in the pages will have an edit button at the top

[tardy bluff]

i saw the wiki has weapon stats for new weps

is there any spreadsheet with all the deets on the updated patch?

been trying to update my personal spreadsheet with the info but dont have the fall off range and values, hard to test that without like a private match

[dense scarab]

This was posted a few days ago: #📂┇the-finals-wiki message

[tardy bluff]

sadly this still uses incorrect info 😢 stuff like the rpm on cl40 is just way off, I'll wait for @spark turtle to do it or ill just have to do it myself lol

this also doesnt line up with the finals wiki stats which the wiki stats seem more accurate

like that ks23 ttk on that spreadsheet has gotta be wrong

[dense scarab]

Yea I wasn’t sure how accurate it was, I just remember they had posted a spread sheet, so figured if it was it’d be of use. Sadly looks like it’s not.

[tardy bluff]

oh man and that sa12 ttk is def wrong

the m60 having a faster ttk than lewis also wrongOOF

the more i read the more inaccurate info i see

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1atfmuwks1OsxlOSTJNyeY3x92QeQA_b2cg1jliNaZhI/edit#gid=901015356
this is my sheet BUT I took like everything from Buff M60, I typically don't advertise it but I've been trying to update the new weps and this is the best i could gather but im missing some values

(please dont share this sheet, BuffM60 deserves all credit)

[dense scarab]

Yea tbh i have no idea what the values should be. I know there was a discussion around the sheet I sent to you, so I hope they know that the data is inaccurate. Cause it seemed like at the time is was updated to the current build. And no doubt I wont share it 🫡

[lapis kindle]

we’ve been over this before

also, anyone can just log in and edit the values to the correct ones

[tardy bluff]

thats what i want, the correct ones lol

the wiki doesnt cover range and drop off etc, tryna find those values somewhere

which is harder to calculate in practice range

[lapis kindle]

that discussion was also had previously i believe #📂┇the-finals-wiki message

[tardy bluff]

yeah i know some of it has falloff just not the new ones, wasn't sure if those were in teh process of being gathered or not

I'll try to get some people together and test it myself, I just didn't wanna do it if someone did it already lol, i am busy boy but i did want this info for future vid

[tardy bluff]

little late to this but I use BUFFM60's info

[tame flume]

hey wait a minute...
youtube man?

yup

are u sure thats supposed to have 2 c's?

yeah it doesnt work, gotta remove a c dawg

[tardy bluff]

LOL ty i never noticed

[tame flume]

gotchu fam

[tardy bluff]

[tame flume]

now make a video on the cl40 XD

im messin with ya (mostly)

[pearl fern]

i've determined falloff range/ratio's for the SR84 and the R.357, other than that I think AKM/FCAR had them already and other than that i think there's barely any weapons that have this info documented

i haven't found anyone researching it for all the weapons atm

however i did recently do some research by categorizing the falloff range of each gun
(this is about the distance at which falloff begins)

93R: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
lh1: 🟨 High Range (from 80M)
m11: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
sh1900: Unverified
sr84: 🟨 High Range (from 80M)
throwing: 🟩 None
v9s: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
xp-54: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
akm: 🟨 High Range
cl40: 🟩 None
famas: 🟨 High Range
fcar: 🟨 High Range
model 1887: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
r357: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
ks-23: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
lewis: 🟨 High Range
m60: 🟥 Mid Range (<30m)
mgl32: 🟩 None
sa1216: Unverified

[tardy bluff]

do u have exact like falloff % or lowest falloff recorded?

[pearl fern]

nope, didn't have time to do that for all the guns, i just tested if dmg fell off at certain ranges

i did find out that LH1 somehow has a falloff start as far as the SR-84, starting at 80m

[tardy bluff]

yeah lh1 is good

aite nw ill figure it out some day if i get time

[pearl fern]

for the shotguns i tried to compare the damage of hitting just one shot, but only on the model 1887 was i able to notice some falloff, on the others i'm not actually sure

it's hard to hit just one shot at such a long distance

[tardy bluff]

i need a team of 6 to use private matches

would be faster to collect shit and way more accurate

[pearl fern]

for sure

i dunno if you have an extra computer or console, but not all players need to be real players

i could prob join you and also add a fake laptop, given that the game is free

i've also seen vcs with just ee hunters making custom games, so maybe they'd be down to help

[tardy bluff]

ee hunters?

ohh easter eggs

I'll hyu if i get the time to do it, i can probably get gravity drop in on it we can share a server where he tests his myths and i get dmg values

[vestal knot]

you could call them

[pearl fern]

sure, I also need to verify if glitch/data reshaper works on gravity cube

and no one picks it in real games lol

[tardy bluff]

gravity is down he likes the idea so ill dm u my in game name and ill dm u if we get a time set

[gloomy stream]

Log in? Can I Log in with my Embark ID, or do I need to make a New Account?

[pearl fern]

Although Embark provides the community wiki with servers, the wiki has its own account data bank. So you simply create a new account, you just need an email, username and password.

[deep holly]

the sniper does have falloff

[pearl fern]

oh, must have clicked the wrong cell when moving some of the data

ty for pointing it out

[deep holly]

dw dw

[normal ermine]

Is there a page for all the voicelines for Scotty and June because just now I heard a new one about scotty drinking coffee

[proven thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/groundskeeper-willie-simpsons-scotland-scots-gif-14601840

[normal ermine]

damn autocorrect

[pearl fern]

I’ve been meaning to start collecting voice lines (possibly even with audio samples), unfortunately there just isn’t a registry at all right now

[normal ermine]

i think they are adding voicelines weekly

2 or 3

[gloomy stream]

Thank you Very much 🙂

[scenic talon]

Hey guys can someone tell me how to rank up in tournament league. Just got to silver and I can't see my progress anymore

Trying to get that diamond skin for the Fcar

[normal ermine]

i dont think u should ask here but you just have to win games

[pearl fern]

like the other person said, you should ask in a normal chat, but i think you're experiencing a bug i've also been having where the post-game screens get straight up skipped
that said, you still receive fame points even if that menu isn't showing up. you can check your profile to see which division you are currently in

[harsh umbra]

The Stages arent timed right? So if I dont do it before the next week it wont go away?

[lilac glen]

what happened?

[minor finch]

This channel is for the Wiki...

[pearl fern]

people see this channel is quiet compared to the other channels and then dump their stuff here
that way more people will see their question or thing they want to share

[lilac glen]

Sorry I have not played the game in a few months and did not know why it still had bugs thought yall would know considering all the bullet drop and all at you know

[lilac glen]

Sorry

[pearl fern]

i dont blame you, most people think this channel is for asking questions to people who know stuff about the games mechanics

[minor finch]

No problem, unfortunately we can't really answer bug questions here, best bet is #bug-discussion

[lilac glen]

Thanks

[thorn jewel]

Does slowmode go down if your a higher rank in the discord?

[lone monolith]

Wrong channel, and also no

[arctic flower]

If we’re adding the finals history to the wiki then we could add in late march 2024 embark announced that they were going to remove bank it to make room for their new mode cash out but after community feedback embark decided to keep bank it

[heavy gale]

apart from that didn't happen (the removal)

[arctic flower]

I edited it I hit send to early

[thorn jewel]

Use it as proof that embark listens to their community/consumers/customers

[arctic flower]

Yea I think it is one of the best examples of that

[heavy gale]

could do

[torpid lynx]

Just wanted to make sure how Motion Sensor works for Heavy Build, but i find out that it is working very good with Light Build Cloaking ability.

Basically overview and uses states that it is still Light Build Gadget.

Also this in the attached video.
So does it reveal through walls or not?
Or does it mean that after triggering it shows enemy silouette through walls?

I allways thought that Motion Sensor can trigger on enemy behind a wall.

It seems it doesn't.
Or we think about different things.

Or all of this become outdated after Release of Season 1/2.

[scenic talon]

Can anyone tell me why I can't see my progress in league rank anymore

Got to silver and my progress is not hovering over the rank tournament mode

[stiff dove]

I don't think it goes through walls, since I once tried to make them "invincible" by putting goo on them, and it would not scan enemies right next to it anymore

[ebon flume]

Is there a ttk chart on the wiki?

[tardy girder]

Egglish is also known as Namatish #easter-eggs message

[lapis kindle]

ye we’ve know about Namatama lore for a while - anyone is welcome to update their page on the Wiki

[ashen vigil]

Mañana

[normal ermine]

i dont know if anyone documented this or not but at some point you were able to pull cashouts https://youtu.be/X84w4DWEEes?si=weuWmU6bLOTtkeRs&t=55

i sent it with the timestamp

[patent surge]

Is there a link of the 7 second teaser trailer?

[patent surge]

found it

https://x.com/EmbarkStudios/status/1457998271641686023?s=20

Embark Studios (@EmbarkStudios) on X

Embark is celebrating 3 years! So what have we accomplished? We’ve grown to more than 250 game makers, we’ve got big plans for the future, and a few projects we are just itching to share. To celebrate, we thought we’d share a glimpse of another unannounced game in the works. 🎂

Twitter · Nov 9, 2021, 9:07 AM

[arctic flower]

Was manoco the first map in the open beta

[pearl fern]

It's the first arena they made

[patent surge]

I think its cause monaco had readily available assets to create

seeing vehicles is so weird, kinda feels like they were trying to make battlefield before realizing what gamemode they wanted to do

[pearl fern]

@heavy gale Could you add an extension to support a json type page? I would like to try something

[exotic leaf]

Open beta was cool

[edgy zephyr]

could someone fill me in on all these little eastereggs? I want to get involved. I have a few things (yall have probably figured iit out) that i peiced together.

id greatly appriciate it

[pearl fern]

This channel doesn't work on easter eggs, it's #easter-eggs

[static light]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Easter_Eggs

[tranquil python]

is that a samurai armor?

[heavy gale]

You should be able to make a page now like let's say a random WeaponStats.json and then go to Page information -> Page content model -> change -> JSON

as long as it's valid json

[hard token]

is the wiki load times really long for yall as well?

[heavy gale]

is it any better for you?

[daring kraken]

how do you add new info here

[heavy gale]

how's the XP farming

[daring kraken]

wdym

[daring kraken]

ahha i see yeah i'm kind of frenetic when i type in here

[heavy trout]

Wiki down?

[heavy gale]

It ran into a little problem, will be sorted soon

Edit: it is sorted

[heavy trout]

Cheers 🤝

[granite pagoda]

Has recon senses been completely wiped from the wiki, or is there somewhere to look at info on it?

[heavy gale]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Recon_Senses

[manic reef]

was

[pearl fern]

wiki editors rushing to change 'is' to 'was' 0.02 seconds after the patch is released:

[heavy gale]

happily rushing to edit the end of recon senses

[lone monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/wstsideluv-gif-19922178

[teal bloom]

How the fuck did this game have 2 C4s with 250 damage each and orange barrels that can fly with an attachment on it, and a mesh sheild with 2k hp and rpg with 220 damage

[cerulean folio]

It was good

I miss having 2 C4's. Problem was that people abused it by combining stuff and making absurd shit like nukes

[tall lintel]

now we got absurd shit like flying mechs with goo and barricade lmao

[cerulean folio]

Honestly? Way better, I hope they don't remove it

[tulip torrent]

wait what?

[violet lance]

Really funny but is it actually being used in matches?

[violet lance]

It is possible to make a flying "mech" with the anti-grav, goo gun and a barricade

[rustic kite]

Did anyone thought about adding tech guides for melee weapons to wiki?

[tulip torrent]

Huh

[fierce copper]

It usually takes longer to setup and fly then it just takes to run there

Unless you manage to put the cashout on the mech then ur cooking

But it takes forever to setup

[compact talon]

from what i can tell, the devs are very anti tech. it is directly against the rules to use any tech and they patch it out usually very quickly

[rustic kite]

Bro, there are so many techs for sword since open beta and nothing has been done about them

[compact talon]

“usually very quickly“

they have patched tons of “tech” since the betas

[rustic kite]

The question is what is considered expoilt and what is tech

[compact talon]

it’s usually pretty easy to tell what’s intentional

[royal sage]

And the worst part is that removing 1 c4 doesn't combo with any of the other changes that nerf nukes, it changes nothing about nukes, already impossible

This change ONLY fucks over c4 as a whole

[royal sage]

@compact talon the thing is that the sword techs are all just ways to use the movement system as it was written

They're not bugs they're the system working exactly as intended

Maybe that feature specifically wasn't intended but the features that combine to make it are intended and are combining in ways that are intended

[violet lance]

You can damage enemies with the Orbital Laser that is targeting you. You get a hitmarker and is even counted as kill if you manage to kill one with it. Should this be added as trivia?

[rustic kite]

I can't say that about emote cancels and phantom strieks

[frigid geyser]

is there any way I can get a stat tracker ? ik I have the in game one but it's not as in depth as one like Tracker network

[royal sage]

yeah exactly

[pearl fern]

Translated all the researched information about gun origins into one page. Also, i'm in the process of writing detailed information for each of the guns that explain more about these origins . The detailed info will be in the trivia section of the respective page of each gun.

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/List_of_Gun_Origins

[violet lance]

The EE hunters have found the first activatable EE ingame:
On SYS$HORIZON are letters that spell Cetacea.
When everyone stands on 1 letter and looks at the sunset dolphins appear

This is everyone that was part of finding it: #easter-eggs message

[lone monolith]

[cloud prawn]

[harsh umbra]

Are the rewards for the challenger circuits gone?

[tall lintel]

rewards for the circuits will be obtainable until the season ends

[harsh umbra]

ty

[pearl fern]

Do we have a list of all (promotional) art of The finals?

[pearl fern]

@static light I wanted to make a change to the 'lore' page at https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lore. But the page is protected. I saw the page got griefed at one point, it's unfortunate. Maybe you would like to see this change?
||```THE FINALS takes place about 75 years in the future, roughly around the year 2100. It is the greatest virtual game show on the planet, with a large, global fan base, and considered a window to a bigger world outside of the real one.

The real world is known as the Meatspace, but most people spend their time in the Virtual World. Contestants join through VR-technology to access the hyper-realistic arenas and fight for fame, riches, and the favor of generous seasonal Sponsors.

{{InfoGridCards
|header1 = [[Sponsors|In-Universe Sponsors]]
|image1 = [[File:Wiki_Frame_Sponsors_2.png|link=Sponsors]]
|text1 = Sponsors play a major role in THE FINALS, as they are the main vehicle for the narrative of the game. Sponsors want exposure to the game show's massive audience for their brand and products/services, and sponsored gear is a sign of a success for contestants.

|header2 = [[Characters|In-Universe Characters]]
|image2 = [[File:Wiki_Frame_Characters.png|link=Characters]]
|text2 = THE FINALS has a diverse cast of characters, including former contestants, patrons, CEOs, mascots, and commentators. Although numerous characters are established, most of their stories remain a mystery.
}}

Basically it changes the text to say 'in-universe' rather than 'in-game ...' , and it adds more appropriate images (in my opinion.) (the current characters image is just some in-game outfits and not related to the characters, so it looks a bit uninteresting.). you could preview this source and see if you like it. ![friend](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1012381623330807848.webp?size=128 "friend")

Thanks much!

[umbral drift]

Noo

[golden laurel]

Finally the map is back! No easter eggs hidden here, it is purely informational!

[violet lance]

Thank you so much
(We are still missing official maps for Skyway and Vegas)

[golden laurel]

I will see if I can rustle them up for you!

[topaz sedge]

maybe even practice range??

[golden laurel]

now you're getting crazy!

I will see what I can get 🙂

[topaz sedge]

Thanks

[scenic harness]

@golden laurel could we get a eagle eye view of the maps perchance?:)

[heavy gale]

Just a heads up to please mention any template changes that you may do in the future so that we can look at and modify other parts of the wiki that uses said templates if needs be. Also, you are all doing great

[heavy gale]

Danke Dusty

[violet lance]

German spotted

[lone monolith]

Hallo or noin 🇩🇪

[compact talon]

FIXED 🫡

[covert nymph]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Breach_Charge

Dont think there is a cooldown display for breach charge, unless im blind might be worth adding <3

[pearl fern]

For reference, here is an image of each of the buildings. (I had some trouble remembering which building is which...)

[compact talon]

campus is the blue one

[pearl fern]

ah yeah

[heavy gale]

I do like the colour coded version 👀

[pearl fern]

Yeah we can have something like that alongside the regular map, together with an image of each building, it should be helpful

[compact talon]

campus is probably the worst spot on any map in the game

[tardy bluff]

@wooden herald found some rpm values and did some math on ttk values etc for the burst weps, might be relevant to the wiki

they still need to do some more testing but i think based on what we talked about the dps and rpm values are tricky to simplify into 1 number like the wiki has

but the rpm of the burst and teh delay are two seperate values, the one on the wiki for the 93r shows the rpm for the burst delay, not an overall rpm

which can be confusing

[wooden herald]

RPM for burst delay makes no sense either

unless the devs just coded the weapons that way

[pearl fern]

I think the lecture hall area (like in the picture) is pretty fun, but the big plaza in the corner (with a metal sphere) I don't like either, it's unfortunate that a cashout can spawn all the way in the corner.

[compact talon]

Fighting indoors is fun but 99% of the time something important is in that area it’s just people shooting at each other from 100m away

[wooden herald]

Whenever I get the time to sit down, I'll be finalizing the 93R and FAMAS fire rate stats (hardest to figure out due to how fast the guns fire during their burst)

[pearl fern]

isn't the dps calculable by simply multiplying the bullet damage by the amount of bullets in a burst, i.e. 3?, before doing the regular dps calculation?

[wooden herald]

Stats for all other guns have been consistent with what iTz_Nao and BUFFM60 found

[wooden herald]

First off

• DPS doesn't matter, since none of the weapons have infinite fire rate for dealing continuous damage over time. TTK is more practical.
• If you really need a DPS value, then for burst weapons, it's calculated with DPS = damage_per_burst / (burst_time_in_seconds + time_between_bursts_in_seconds)

[pearl fern]

I guess, just going off what the wiki currently lists, which is DPS. yes, TTK would be helpful, although its pretty circumstantial with headshots and dropoff and stuff. I guess you'd assume the person is firing at the body from close up, as with the current DPS stat?

[wooden herald]

Yeah, even my TTK calculations assume 100% accuracy and being in close range

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pearl fern]

100% accuracy on the body? a KS-23 can kill a light with 2 shots, but a sr-84 can kill a light with either 1 or 2 shots depending on whether you count the head shots

[wooden herald]

I have calcs for both body and head

[minor finch]

The new In-Game Easter Eggs page currently links to standalone articles like wiki/Monaco Secrets

I wonder if a better option is to use sub-pages? like this:

• Main wiki/In-Game Easter Eggs
• Sub wiki/In-Game Easter Eggs/Monaco
• Sub wiki/In-Game Easter Eggs/Seoul
• and so on...

imo this works a bit better 🤔 but what do others think?

[lone monolith]

It used to be like that but I got asked to split it up by the EE peeps

[minor finch]

I think it's different since the old version used headings. This would still split it up into unique pages, but each would be a child of the main page, so a bit easier to navigate.

I put a quick example on my user https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid. How it'd look in practice:

[tardy girder]

thanks

[minor finch]

but if it's an unusual Wiki practice I'm fine with it either way

sub-pages aren't used very often in my experience

[pearl fern]

I agree that would make more sense...
it could be helpful to have the automatic "back" button at the top of the page.
you can move it yourself, it seems like people wont mind.

(given it also creates an automatic redirect)

[violet lance]

New character: #📕┇lore message

[flat folio]

Do we need/ can I help translate the wiki in french? If so, how would I go about it?

[dense scarab]

5th WR has been found: #1197268508623515849 message

[junior shard]

does PS5 have mnk support yet???

[violet lance]

no and it won't get it. They even removed the mnk support on xbox (and this is not a wiki topic)

[amber basin]

is there ping status?

[steel nacelle]

Question but is there a list of every prop in every arena

[heavy gale]

Currently we haven't thought about translations but it may be something we delve into in the future.

[flat folio]

well, feel free to ping me when you decide!

[pearl fern]

if you mean a picture of every single piece of decor, no. we have every non-decor carriable at
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Arena_Carriables

[steel nacelle]

Oh ok thank you

[twin rock]

Campus is blue, museum is yellow orange(?), library is green, workspace is bottom middle orange and art gallery is red
That's what I'd assume

[lone monolith]

Nice

[lime hornet]

@tiny sky you think it would be a good idea to make a page for the info bot?

under game info

also just uploaded some icons that were missing

[lone monolith]

The Wiki is exclusively things in the game or community related memes deriving from it. (Holy Hunters for example) It isn't here to make pages for talking about/advertising various discord bots.

[lime hornet]

like under game info?

im not putting any invite links, just talking about it

[lone monolith]

Yes. That's for info about the game or game related things done by Embark, so interviews or podcasts they host.

[lime hornet]

so you think not at all?

cause hopefuly really soon, it will be here too

[lone monolith]

We're a wiki about THE FINALS and related offical content, that does not include pages about community made bots.

[lime hornet]

thats skipping around the question, do you think it would be a good addition to the wiki to provide information about the communities bigest discord bot, which may be added even into this discord server?

just yeah or nay

[heavy gale]

If it's added to this server than we may have a page on it but for now, no.

In short, while you may be trusted, we don't want a link to a Discord bot that hasn't been officially vetted by Embark.

[lime hornet]

okay sweet, is it alright if i have it saved as a draft for when oscar talks to me?

for now to save my changes, i have made it redirect to cns

like the ingame page, just so my progress for when it is added isnt lost

[lime hornet]

yeah me and zaffer are the ones with the gun info

if you want, just greenlight me and ill update all weapons across the wiki

also got stats which you guys havent recorded

@heavy gale^

also im thinking about making a ranked page with all info

like rank icons what arrow mean ect

[lone monolith]

We already had icons for everything you uploaded?

[lime hornet]

the rpg didnt, it was a long thingyt

and the aps too

[lime hornet]

^@lone monolith

[lone monolith]

No

[lime hornet]

same with dome, it was a banner image

not an icon one

[lone monolith]

I told you two times we aren't having a page for the bot on the wiki. I was trying to let you down gently but you just kept pushing it

[lime hornet]

lmfao read above, wasnt publicly available

[lone monolith]

I don't care? I run the wiki and decide what gets put on it. We aren't having pages, even ones you cannot directly access, that are just launching boards for bots. It's not what the wiki's about.

[lime hornet]

also and zipline was a length ways

[lime hornet]

okay didnt see you owning the wiki on your roles mb

[lime hornet]

not a launching board, bot has existed for 2 months and is used by kachi, ottr fwl and more, just thought it would be nice to document where it came from, what it does and why i made it

[lone monolith]

So... advertising it? I like the bot but we aren't here to document bot dev history.

[lime hornet]

not advertising

nevermind

anyways added images that are not oblong in side, may come handy in the future

[tardy bluff]

Big big, i have done some testing myself but zaff always ahead of me. If either of you need help hmu

[void portal]

yo whats the best heavy gun? ive been using the lewis for ages, but idk if its the best

[proven thicket]

Lewis was nerfed and M60 was buffed

[void portal]

is m60 better then?

[proven thicket]

It's more stable now, yes

[void portal]

thanks

[proven thicket]

And Lewis was good because of it's stability

[void portal]

yh, i hate how hard it is to shoot people from far away now

[brave shuttle]

I told you two times we aren't having a page for the bot on the wiki. I was trying to let you down gently but you just kept pushing it

[wooden herald]

SA12 if you want to dominate up close.
Lewis if you want mid-range potency with fast kill time, but lower uptime than M60
M60 if you're OK with slightly slower kill time than Lewis, but high uptime for back-to-back close-to-mid-range fighting.

in general, choosing between M60 vs. Lewis is like choosing between AKM vs. FCAR, but the gap is MUCH closer.

[void portal]

thanks

[compact talon]

It’s funny because m60 is meant to have a faster ttk than Lewis but it falls off immediately and the raw ttk difference is negligible

[void portal]

m60 having a faster ttk is stupid, similar range, faster ttk and more ammo would just make it dumb to use the lewis

[compact talon]

lewis gun range is like 100x further than m60 thats the point of the weapon. you're meant to sacrifice dps and ammo for range. but the dps difference is negligible

the m60 falls off after like legitimately 7 meters

and then the lewis kills faster

[void portal]

eh ok

[wooden herald]

what I measured for M60 vs. Lewis

again, basically AKM vs. FCAR, Heavy edition

but the gap between their damage output is much closer

M60 always kills slower but only by around 50ms against another Heavy (which is still a "whoever shoots first wins" situation with the current fire rates)

[minor finch]

Just a heads up that I've updated https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cashout with the changes made in 2.2.0, as well as removed all references to the S1 fame points system.

lmk if anything should be reverted to how it was previously

[torn plover]

Is the wiki limited to displaying how many stats there are for an item, I feel like a lot of crucial item stats that I'd go to the wiki for aren't there when I would expect them to be.

typo on glitch grenade

Nothing on the flashbang that describes the defean effect it also has, and that the deafen effect only works by looking at the flashbang directly.

Tons of shit missing

Gateway 70m range should be an important thing to mention at the top of the page, not hidden at the bottom where the strategy is, it should be a stat alongside the other stats.

[lone monolith]

We are a community wiki, if you see things missing feel free to add it yourself

[torn plover]

I can do that?

I will try my best, I just don't know how to add extra stats or sth.

[lapis kindle]

ye all you need is to log in and click Edit. if you have any doubts or questions you can just ask here

[torn plover]

thanks

Is there a way to change the name or add a new field that describes the stat better?

I would like to make one called crit

[lone monolith]

Admittedly that one is on our end. I'll look into it when I get home.

[lone monolith]

do you keep the ranked rewards even if you lose the rank?

[heavy gale]

HEAD has been renamed to CRIT

[torn plover]

sweet

are we able to get attack speed?

instead of firing time

[heavy gale]

attack speed sounds kinda odd imo in terms of guns. However, we can add a field called attack time for meele weapons if needed.

[torn plover]

yes plz

[torn plover]

dedicated titles for melees would be very nice for clarity

[torn plover]

I think simplifying the falloff to effective range would be better

it would also make sense when applying them to melee weapons

[peak wedge]

what is this red medal?

what is "sub-leagues"?

this is not subleague, this is submedal. You also did not play any subleagues because ranks are mixed in the lobby

[minor finch]

afaik the correct terms are League and Sub-League. I'm not sure where 'Medal' comes from.

• Examples of Leagues: Bronze, Silver, Gold
• Examples of Sub-Leagues: Bronze 3, Silver 4, Gold 1

[peak wedge]

then what is "league rank"?

the same thing as "subleague"? Yes, i am wrong about "submedal" but the idea is that medal!=rank!=league

[minor finch]

League and Rank are effectively interchangeable terms. "Rank" is often used to casually refer to your sub-league, like "hey what rank are you?" -- but only leagues and sub-leagues actually exist in-game.

So I guess "league rank" was just used in place of "sub-league" on that image you shared.

[peak wedge]

nah, its clearly said "play... to gain league rank". While there is no split with leagues, you just get matched with sbmm

it might be just old info from betas while they planned to make some ranked splits

there is 0 reasons to use different words in the same two sentences about the same thing

[heavy gale]

it is leagues and sub-leagues like Raid said

[dreamy summit]

Yo what is the red medal???

[compact talon]

it was platinum before it got called platinum

[limpid ridge]

your spreadsheet is awesome!

[wooden herald]

ty, I'm gonna make a couple of updates today, now that 2.6 is delayed

shots-to-kill stats + (maybe?) melee weapon TTK

I feel like with the exception of Riot Shield, melee TTK would be pointless because people use quick melee + animation cancelling to optimize them anyway

perhaps melee needs its own separate sheet

[plain ledge]

I think what would be useful is on the arena maps, have an overlay of all the possible spawn points of vaults and cashboxes. I'm assuming the order is random but they are always in the same spots.

Loving all the work that's been put in though, much appreciated

[minor finch]

New upper body cosmetics this update. I can add them in a few days but just a heads up if anybody wants to now. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193672244531052567/1232656584065290250/image.png?ex=662a4067&is=6628eee7&hm=517c97be81a41740d14c1a1fdc669f5b140d1e81edf9f4672de02a0253480eb2&

(don't have good enough quality pics yet)

[lapis kindle]

ooh i didn't noticed those. i'll add them no worries, everything else from today's update is up

[heavy gale]

attack time has been added to the infobox weapons, just needs to be added to the respective pages

[tawdry panther]

i saw them, im thinking about getting the white one maybe idk

[willow ice]

Ruby, I imagine, but likely changed to plat because it's a lot easier to tell plat comes after gold

Bronze, Silver, Gold, Ruby, Diamond

changed to

Bronze, Silver, Gold, Plat, Diamond

i think

[low stump]

Is ÖRF a new mascot? When will he be added to the wiki if so?

[granite salmon]

I hope so

[violet lance]

I think Örf is a game or game character like the moist man

[slender bronze]

it's a cat! (more like a feline) you can see it here, Rob said we are going to have a big surprise coming soon relating to this fella

[tranquil python]

orf event ?

[lone monolith]

Örf! ** **

[granite salmon]

ORF

[lone monolith]

We'll probably make a page for it whenever it's a bit more clear exactly what it is. Same thing with... sigh moist man.

[narrow knot]

I uploaded a new version of the image, but it doesn't update on the page 🤨

By the way, it would be nice to be able to delete your old pages.

[lapis kindle]

usually CTRL+F5 works so it clears the cache. i can see the new images btw

[narrow knot]

This keyboard shortcut doesn't work for me, but clearing the cache helped. Thanks🙏

[woven ingot]

Wha

[candid locust]

iirc the red one was supposed to be a rank above diamond for only the top 500 but was never added

[lime hornet]

uh

why did my images get deleted?

[lone monolith]

This is about the wiki. As stated prior. It's not about your bot that you're adding wiki things to.

[lime hornet]

the first couple was showing cache busting and the others was a wiki command, in the wiki channel

[lone monolith]

Please do that on your own platforms, not here.

[lime hornet]

i was showing how to bust cache with queries and the 2nd bit was showing a wiki command, using the wiki api?

the cache busting was 2 days ago and was unrelated

[lone monolith]

It's a wiki command for your bot. Please stop trying to use this channel for your bot man I've asked you to refrain from doing so prior

[lime hornet]

i was legit trying to show a cool thing i made for the wiki, seeing if it was all cool, nevermind

[minor finch]

Since modes were added to Embark's website today, what do people think about using the official icons for the Gamemodes page? (https://www.reachthefinals.com/modes)

Quick concept

[lapis kindle]

ye for sure, but i was gonna edit the images so they all have the same object scale and are 1:1

[minor finch]

that's a good idea

[lapis kindle]

i can edit + upload them and you can implement the code

i'll just swap the images

[minor finch]

I could prepare the source but I can't actually edit the wiki/Gamemodes page, admin protected

[lapis kindle]

oh right, those are protected. well if you want have the source ready on your page and we can just grab it from there

[minor finch]

sure thing, it's on my user page already

[lapis kindle]

awesome, thanks Raid. great work

[wooden herald]

Do we have an exhaustive table of EXP rewards for different actions?

[granite plaza]

It seems terminal attack will change its objective each season to fit the lore...

[hard token]

yo currently the image for terminal attack redirects to the LTM page, could you make it go to the actual terminal attack page?

also add quick cash to the gamemodes page xd

[minor finch]

Quick Cash is listed on the Cashout page since it's a member of that mode-type

[hard token]

oop mb

[cinder kindle]

Wow. Wiki page.

[dusty quail]

Hello all. This is a tough thing to do, but I know there are some lore hounds in the EE and Wiki community

We might, at some point, wish we had a catalogue of voicelines said by Scotty and June.

Mainly because this dialogue is right now actually a majority of the lore that we receive

There are for example some interesting lines about CNS said in this new event

Might we start a section for collecting in-game dialogue?

[minor finch]

I think @lapis kindle started this a while ago but it was tricky #📕┇lore message

A collaborative effort on the Wiki could be cool though, I agree they would be nice to keep somewhere

not sure if this was made too #📕┇lore message

[dusty quail]

I think now is the perfect time to get it up and started again

I'd be happy to contribute a bit of my time to start adding

You'd only have to add voicelines which you think have meaning

Oh btw side note: Lore wise at the moment: June is on CNS' side. Scotty is against them.

[lapis kindle]

ye it was made but didn’t share at that time

but we can definitely compile and add to the Wiki, at least lore related ones like the ones Fish mentioned and other that talk about certain events or dates

[dusty quail]

Can't wait to get this started 🙏

[harsh canopy]

more orf fit's

[fiery ocean]

the orf hoodie is very eye pleasing

[brave prism]

the trivia section for the CL40 is slightly incorrect in the wiki.

although the CL-40 is modeled after a china lake grenade launcher, it is actually modeled after a modernized version by Airtronic

a key difference is the picatinny rails that can be seen along the top

those do not exist on the version of the china lake grenade launcher that saw use during the vietnam war.

the picatinny rail is probably easiest to see by the receiver when reloading or inspecting in-game

also note the pistol grip, ar-15 buffer tube & stock, and M203-style safety

the model in the finals even has the part machined out behind the receiver where the safety was initially intended to be—like the original china lake 40mm grenade launcher—before they added the M203-style safety
this was added to make toggling the safety on and off more practical due to the change of grip styles when the grip was changed to a pistol grip.

there is also a USGI M203 grenade launcher rail-mounted leaf sight mounted on the CL-40’s model in the finals

however, the leaf sight is considerably flimsier-looking

so it may be a modernized version i do not know about.

[frozen ravine]

why there is no info about S1 diamond skin?

[minor finch]

Just haven't got around to it yet, also we need a clean HD screenshot in its default rotation.

@lapis kindle usually handles weapons skins, he might know more.

[minor finch]

It's already listed with the League rewards, but we're also missing some sticker icons there. It's tricky when we don't have access to some items that need to be catalogued.
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Leagues#Season_1-1

[lapis kindle]

i already have the screenshot. will upload soon

[dreamy summit]

Someone knows their stuff

[brave prism]

perhaps

[dreamy summit]

How did you figure this out?

[brave prism]

random fascination over the development of the china lake grenade launcher

i don’t know a lot of gun stuff but the overlap of the engineering standpoint and development is what enticed me to do a lot of research

[dreamy summit]

Seriously, good job

[brave prism]

thank you!

[dreamy summit]

I'm proud of you, I feel like people don't hear that enough

[brave prism]

thank you, it means a lot
i might do some research on the MGL-32 since grenade launchers seem to be really interesting to me

i guess we’ll have to see if the trivia section for the MGL-32 on the wiki is correct

[dreamy summit]

Go get em'

[brave prism]

alright here we go; research starting NOW

[dreamy summit]

🫡

[brave prism]

welp first roadblock
i don't think it's just a MILKOR M32 like it says in the wiki; something is drastically different about the cylinder sizes

[dreamy summit]

The devs could have also taken some creative liberties

[brave prism]

probably!

this is so strange; i guess there's a size disparity for the cylinder depth among Milkor MGLs

[dreamy summit]

Different models for different ammo?

[brave prism]

my best guess is that the deeper ones must fire a higher-powered projectile
or are capable of, rather

[dreamy summit]

Or maybe the cylinder is swappable

[brave prism]

maybe? i'm not quite sure though, looking at the construction of the launcher

the spine(?) or tube-looking part of the body of the launcher under the optic almost looks like it could have a telescopic action, so maybe

[dreamy summit]

Telescopic action?

[brave prism]

you know how some of those folding fishing rods basically collapse down inside of themselves?

that.

basically the launcher would be loosened and unlatched at the bottom and the top would be loosened maybe by a countersink screw that would allow it to come loose, and then it could be pressed together or pulled apart and re-tightened and assembled to house either size of cylinder

but that's just speculation on my part; i don't know the launcher well enough, and i don't have one in my hands to mess around with (obviously)

[dreamy summit]

I'll buy you one

[brave prism]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescoping_(mechanics)

[dreamy summit]

Just promise not to blow yourself up

[dreamy summit]

Well hey, you learn something new every day

[brave prism]

honestly maybe my grammar was wrong
it's probably telescoping action and not telescopic action

[dreamy summit]

I wouldn't have understood anyway but I know what it is

[brave prism]

anyways back to the MGL32/Milkor MGL

the stock folds up and down because of how drastic the projectile drop is on grenade launchers

[brave prism]

i'm trying to copy an image from Milkor's website right now to show, but i think i'm gonna have to screenshot it instead 🪦

[brave prism]

the stock and optic basically rotate in harmony to account for longer and shorter ranges

the higher the stock angle relative to the rest of the launcher, the farther the range
the optic has to be re-adjusted for the range and therefore has to rotate a set angle in the same direction as the stock

because grenades arc like a rainbow, pretty much

[brave prism]

btw the launcher in the screenshot there is a Milkor MGLA1; an improved version of the Milkor MGL

[dreamy summit]

I feel like it's something I used in Far Cry 2

[brave prism]

it very well may have

[brave prism]

the easiest difference i can spot is a shorter barrel--it barely protrudes out past the picatinny rails on the MGLA1 model compared to the MGL

also
it does not have a telescoping action
i just figured out how the reload works
the whole, like, front of the launcher rotates away from the body with the cylinder

[dreamy summit]

I looked it up and it's kinda the same thing that I remember from Far Cry 2, though I only remember that one because it exploded in my fucking hand

[brave prism]

not the greatest image, but look

[dreamy summit]

Oh I know

[brave prism]

i don't play heavy mgl enough to have noticed that

oh yeah whadda you know, there it is in the game
that's cool to see lol

i just looked at the reload animation 😂

[dreamy summit]

The guns in that game jam and can explode I wish more games had that

[dreamy summit]

💀 I thought you knew how it reloaded

[brave prism]

i didn't
i'm too tunnel-visioned when playing mgl32 to have seen it

it's interesting to see that there's an actual speed loader used in the animation
i wonder if it has a dynamic object that spawns and drops during the animation

[dreamy summit]

We can test in a private match or smth later

[brave prism]

that's true

i might literally hop in the practice arena rn rq since it should be really really fast

[dreamy summit]

But don't you want to see it not from your perspective? I thought that would be easier

[brave prism]

okay the speed loader does not have a dynamic object that drops

interesting thing to note is that you dump ALL of the grenades out whether they're spent or unspent

and the spawned dynamic models are ALL spent casings

regardless if some or all of them are spent

[dreamy summit]

Same with the revolver

[brave prism]

i kinda wish the mgl had an optic like the army uses now in-game

[dreamy summit]

It would be cool

[brave prism]

i can kinda see why they opted against it tho since it would reduce your fov and create a lot of blindspots

[dreamy summit]

Well I feel like it would be useful to judge grenade distances

[brave prism]

yeah that's very true

fun fact: the Milkor M32A1 empty with the standard optic weighs 14.62 lbs./6,63 kg

i would guess the Milkor MGL weighs a little more

i could probably figure out what ammo type for grenades is used in the finals
...probably
...maybe
not sure if grenade round types are colour-coded

and then i could calculate the loaded weight

woah

grenade launcher ammunition is actually really intriguingly complex omg

WHAT DID I JUST DISCOVER

THE HITBOX FOR HEAVY GRENADES FROM THE MGL32 IS SMALLER THAN THE CL-40's

i... take it back?

they are roughly the same size

if not the exact same hitbox size

[brave prism]

mystery…solved?
the finals’ MGL32 uses 40 x 46 mm LV (low-velocity) rounds, and has a shallower cylinder compared to the Milkor MGL32s that fire 40 x 51 mm MV (medium velocity) rounds.

@dreamy summit

[dreamy summit]

I was aleep

[copper vine]

what game

[copper vine]

oh i didn't know they were cone charges i thought they were frags

[dreamy summit]

Far Cry 2

[narrow knot]

It seems that I have loaded all Horizon loading screens, so it is possible to delete the temporary images (Sys$horizon_temporary.jpg, Sys$horizon_temporary2.jpg, horizon_default_sunrise.jpg)

[minor finch]

Just my two cents, but I don't think we should be altering item names depending on appearance. I think it'd be more accurate and consistent to simply copy the in-game names directly without further changes. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193672244531052567/1238139094354362431/image.png?ex=663e3263&is=663ce0e3&hm=2c91e223815e2cc23703228dbb4b5306c88bf6032753658bb384e4eb5be52f9d&

[lapis kindle]

that’s just me copy-pasting internal names so they don’t get overwritten

feel free to remove it from the front-end

[minor finch]

Gotcha

[minor finch]

I've made a quick update to reflect the 2.6.0 changes. Feel free to make your own edits too! You just need a Wiki account.

[heavy gale]

There is no special wiki role

[cinder kindle]

Wth is that?

[brave prism]

Milkor M32A1

swung out from the frame for reload

[cinder kindle]

Lore what?

Sorry wrong channel.

[chilly sigil]

Question about gadgets like the jump pad and the zipline, are you rewarded xp for just deploying them, or for you and your team mates actually using them? Just so I get an idea of how the leveling is actually working

[distant wyvern]

Suggestion. have a section on a weapon where it tells the attack interval. That way, you can properly gauge how long it takes to kill an enemy with math. This is how the tf2 wiki works, and i bet it will help the wiki as well

[lavish python]

why are there no threads with the wiki info? do i just gotta scroll and scroll to read the info here?

[minor finch]

what type of info are you referring to?

[lavish python]

literally anything? how can i read up abt the weapons and stuff? it’s a wiki channel with no way to read about anything unless it was sent recently?

[minor finch]

This channel is for talking about the Wiki.

It's a website: https://www.thefinals.wiki

[lavish python]

ohhh okok thank you!

[wary rover]

Maybe renaming the channel to wiki-discussion would be more self-documenting.

[fleet ridge]

Quick question for the KS-23 how come it shows the most recent patch it received as the 2.2 patch when the last patch it received was the 2.5 patch?

[heavy gale]

stats are still correct, just haven't updated the change history bit at the bottom. I'll up date it at some point today

[limpid ridge]

Hey is there a wiki page for different cash amounts? i.e. how much you get for touching vault, stealing, team wipe etc?

Anyone by chance know how much you get for stealing (if any?) or team wiping (?) I know touching a vault you get $1000 and putting a cashbox in you get $1000

haha I don't I can check myself when I get a chance, just was curious if someone knew off the top of their heads xD

[dreamy summit]

Don't you get 2k from putting one in a cashout?

[limpid ridge]

You're right its $2k thanks for correcting me!

Also just checked looks like you get $200 for every kill by your team

EDIT jk I rechecked we got extra $200 because someone defibbed and we killed em again

[dreamy summit]

Yes

[wary rover]

That's the boosted kill money during the event?

[static light]

All of this info is in the Cashout page under Gamemodes.

@limpid ridge @lone monolith ^

[real stirrup]

The Level 3 page of THE FINALS Easter Egg hunt has been created: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_Three:_%3F%3F%3F

[lavish python]

did anyone get the password yet?

[minor finch]

Thanks Rockhound

[real stirrup]

not yet, we still need to find the 3-headed monkeys

[lavish python]

ahhh like in one of the maps?

[real stirrup]

yeah, Monaco mainly

[lavish python]

ahh okok so i did see it once there i didn’t know wtf it was LOL

[hasty mesa]

r u actually rock hound black

[real stirrup]

yes!

[main mulch]

thats crazy who deleted my post

[heavy gale]

This is not a support channel, also #game-announcements message

[copper vine]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Model_1887#/media/File:Repeater_Closed_Beta_Action.png anyone remember how we were supposed to unlock this skin ? is it still in the game ?

[minor finch]

This was a CB1 exclusive for reaching career level 20. It's still in the game but can't be obtained anymore.
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Career_Progression#Pre-Release

[copper vine]

oh ok i don't remember if i reached lvl 20

[dreamy summit]

Why are there beta exclusive skins 😭

[copper vine]

for the ogs

[tall lintel]

for limited edition bragging rights 😎

[unreal quest]

how updated is the wiki meant to be...?

[minor finch]

It should be mostly up to date at all times. If you spot outdated information, feel free to fix it! or you can drop a message here with the details.

[unreal quest]

kk ty! I was looking at some numbers that I thought were outdated but it was changed in the midseason (tysm for not using fandom btw W choice on making a separate wiki)

[heavy gale]

We try to keep all stats for weapons/gadgets/specialisations up-to-date as soon as they change but stuff like DPS might be wonky as that's not an in-game stat and needs to be calculated again whenever some stats change

[unreal quest]

yeah it was correct, I was the one who was wrong, yall do an amazing job !

[low imp]

so what exactly can I be asking here?

[torpid shadow]

I need it too man I keep checking to see if there's a full song

yeah I hope they make/release the full thing at some point

[sand venture]

[dusty quail]

Fog bundle

[lapis kindle]

new cosmetics, weapon skins and sponsor logos have been added

[broken arch]

Is the frog bundle limited

Will only the first 10k people be able to get it?

[minor finch]

we don't know Embark's plans for the bundle yet, but... sounds like a reason to sign!

also this channel is for the wiki

[hard crater]

I feel like the DPS on the model 1887 might be wrong on the wiki? 172.9 just doesn't seem quite right to me personally, but idk

I think it's two shots a second, which I think would make it 256 dps right? Not sure though

It two taps a medium up close, so that would seem to make the most sense to me

Ah, know what I'm starting my counting incorrectly it's probably fine

[woeful quiver]

hello, is there a sheet that shows all of the damage of all weapons and the cooldowns of all the specialization & gadgets

[static light]

all of that info is on its respective page https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Loadout

[vagrant hare]

what barrel is a powder?

[heavy gale]

The fire extinguisher one I assume

Which actually has powder on the model

[vagrant hare]

ohhhhh

i just call it smoke like csgo

[heavy gale]

Same

[compact talon]

I wonder if it’s a funny Swedish translation

[lapis kindle]

new weapon skins and cosmetics have been added

[limpid ridge]

Just saw this -- thank YOU!

[mint sparrow]

it's probably a reference to class K powder fire extinguishers

mainly used in kitchens to handle oil based fires

[compact talon]

I use water for this personally

I use water only for oil fires

[mint sparrow]

you can also find class K in warehouses, but it depends on the type of warehouse

[humble hazel]

That's not right, water is for electrical fires

[compact talon]

i routinely pour water on oil fires when im bored

[broken arch]

Got it
Thanks

[scenic harness]

Btw, if you guys want a high rez close-up image of the Koi Fish

[last spire]

i cant see shit

[wooden herald]

114 MB image

[scenic harness]

this is the non-upscaled one hehe

but the other one looks better ._.

[violet lance]

Rob also posted an image of the fish which could be useful #easter-eggs message

[flat folio]

alright i wanna get serious about this i have a lot of free time and a the finals brainrot right now

[flat folio]

Is ospuze really a sponsor for S2? should we not replace it with an unofficial CNS sponsor?

Nah I mean CNS. Ospuze really isn't doing anything this season + CNS is 'official' map sponsor for SYS$HORIZON

[dusty quail]

"official" means official

OSPUZE have a page of the Battle Pass

[flat folio]

I mean I get that. But like.. this whole season is about CNS. It's only a suggestion but renaming the category 'Official (and unofficial) sponsors for Season 2' could work

• Ospuze is already Season 0's official sponsor

[heavy gale]

they also have a whole circuit dedicated to OSPUZE in the game

[sleek solstice]

To be fair, there is also a whole circuit dedicated to CNS, it's just that obviously CNS isn't going to be financially sponsoring THE FINALS in the same way real companies would

[lapis kindle]

i added a lower tab to include CNS as “unofficial sponsors” for S2. also, new weapon skins and cosmetics have been uploaded

[flat folio]

That's a nice in-between

[heavy gale]

#🏆┇rank-check

[haughty lake]

but OSPUZE IS a sponsor

also sponsors the Monaco map, gives us ads on buildings, weapon skins, clothing

just like ISEUL-T, they do the same but it's a clothing company

[flat folio]

that is not what i meant at all.... i know ospuze is a sponsor. Just not the one for S2

[haughty lake]

But it is the one for S2

CNS is only unofficial, they don't pay the game, they only hacked everything in

[flat folio]

I know they are. I mean it in a more figurative way, not literal

(there is no need to discuss this further anyway since the page was updated)

[thin copper]

I mean when I played rank and got map sys$horizon it said CNS was a sponsor so...

[haughty lake]

no CNS isn't a sponsor of the game, they sponsor the map

[thin copper]

ah ok

[narrow knot]

finally

[junior vine]

yo it's already showed in the 2021 trailer???

[haughty lake]

yes, the katana has been a concept since 2020

[molten walrus]

where can i see this? lenk?

[narrow knot]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Katana

[molten walrus]

link?

[haughty lake]

it is the message above your message...

also here

[molten walrus]

ss im see ashdjkasdasd, im wait this

[haughty lake]

probably won't get it, only a 4 year old concept art

[opaque granite]

Guys where can I find the voice of scotty and use it ?

[haughty lake]

I don't think that it is public

[pearl fern]

added levels 97 to 106 to the battle pass page, images provided by @narrow knot(i saw you uploaded them in jpg but the images are usually in png i think, or maybe it doesn't matter)

if anyone is reading this who does NOT own the battle pass, it would be appreciated if you could share which levels in the last 2 pages are Premium and which levels are Free

[narrow knot]

I asked one of the players without a battle pass, he said that the last two pages are Premium

[pearl fern]

alright ty, updated it

[narrow knot]

🥸

[minor finch]

Rob teased this sponsor before the trailer too #1201288968562552863 message

so safe to say (imo) that it's ENGIMO

[lapis kindle]

yes, it is

[compact talon]

No that’s clearly ospuze

[haughty lake]

People call it whatever until S3 comes out

I personally say ENSIMO

And we've figured out the logo and possible name since fay 1 of the trailer

[flat folio]

Should we add

// Season Chronology //

Previous Next
Season 1 Season 3

in this window? currently it's a the bottom of the page

[heavy gale]

we do have a plan to add a banner at the top of the page which has a previous season -> next season type thing

just been a bit busy and forgot to work on it sorry

[flat folio]

Don't be sorry i'm quite new here I didn't mean to press you

[heavy gale]

thanks for helping the wiki out

[flat folio]

Trying! 😅

[lapis kindle]

you can hear Oscar say it on the WT video, it’s “ENGIMO”

[haughty lake]

my bad, I want the season to be a surprise so I won't watch it

[brittle minnow]

a man can only dream

[sour flare]

can gif fit in the wiki?

[minor finch]

you can upload gifs and add them to pages yes, if appropriate

[sour flare]

but does it make wiki slower?

i will try adding it in the next 8 hours

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Battle_Pass

why is it taking so long to load this page? is it because there are too many images?

[lapis kindle]

yes and because the Wiki is slow at times

[heavy gale]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-hedgehog-blue-smile-run-gif-14498517

[lapis kindle]

Main Page has been updated w/ S3 assets + new Wiki color palette

i'll be updating S3 cosmetics (Style) + weapon skins soon

[sour flare]

wow thanks for the hard work!

[lapis kindle]

i've also added a S3 sponsor section in Lore page. will add the .svg logo files soon as well

[sour flare]

rob update the logo for engimo

[lapis kindle]

ye i know, just need to update it

[sour flare]

ah alr

[lapis kindle]

they've been updated but i will make .svgs of them as well

[peak wedge]

so i noticed Ruby rank 1.5months ago but none of you gave it a push to discuss further 🤷‍♂️

[sour flare]

isnt it already in the game?

[peak wedge]

Diamond is the highest rank, there was no Ruby

[sour flare]

it's already in the game duh

top 500 to get the ruby rank and the ruby ak for the reward

[peak wedge]

are you stupid, bro? Did you play ranked at least once in whole previous half of the year? This streamer played early preshow of the 3rd season. Ruby wasn't in the game before

[sour flare]

🤦‍♂️

sorry for the misunderstanding. i might have read your message too fast and got it wrong. it won't happen again.

[trail tusk]

what time the season drop tomorow?

[heavy gale]

It wasn't in the game back then so we didn't need to discuss it further ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[peak wedge]

this screenshot WAS in the game, lmao. This was a direct tip of what is coming soon. If you are not interesting in finding such things - just pass by. Many players are interested to find hidden stuff and find out such spoilers

[heavy gale]

Many people knew about that screenshot, it's just ruby wasn't in the game so why would we bother writing a wiki page about something that isn't even out yet and could have just not been added to the game while also having uncertainty of what the icon represented anyway.

Also, this is a wiki chat, if you wanted to discuss said screenshot you could do it in any of the other main chats

[peak wedge]

so you genious, which chat should i go?

Many people knew about that screenshot
and no one responded about this anything 🤡

[lone monolith]

Any channel really, it's been a popular speculation point for a few months now. When I started working on the Wiki one of the core things we try to avoid is speculation. While it is fun to speculate and talk about what might be coming to the game it imo has no place in a repository of information. That also applies to this channel since it's to discuss how to organize what's being added to the wiki from things that are currently in the game or shown during preview events.

[peak wedge]

any channel? Maybe i should visit Light or Medium channel? Oh, maybe its weapons-gadgets or maps. I got it, its a feedback channel, ok.
I didn't ask to add this to wiki but i asked a question at the channel which is more likely related to knowing this information since it is directly related to a resource of collecting data about the game

[heavy gale]

we don't datamine for the wiki, we have the same information as any other player and for that ruby rank, there was no information.

[sweet locust]

oh yeah the ruby rank as been "noticed" since the betas but it wasnt in the game officially

[peak wedge]

i can see that this rank was noticed a lot during the beta here so it could be noticed on the Wiki if there is anything historical about the game or beta

[lone monolith]

^ We knew there was a red coded rank at some point during development, generally most of us thought it either was gonna get added down the line or it was a cut rank they were working on between CB1/CB2.

[peak wedge]

would be cool to know that this already was during the beta. Not required but it can spoil cool info about what will be in the next season long before the season launch

[lone monolith]

It'll be mentioned in the ranked page when we rework it. We just don't include anything that isn't explictly in game and visible by the players.

[peak wedge]

ok, i can see that even Recon is not in the list of specifications

[heavy gale]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Recon_Senses it used to be but it got removed from the game

[lone monolith]

Page for it is still on the wiki. We just removed it from the list since it isn't usable anymore.

Same with Night Vision

[sweet locust]

all my homies miss night vision

[peak wedge]

ok, it is your choice what is better to make but i would be really interested to know not "current state of the game wiki" but whole information about the game. I would visit site a lot just to find something new about the game to spoil or reveal what is coming or what was before.
It would be also really good to have some patchlogs for every item. I would want to know how good was Invis during the beta or just at the release date. It would be interesting to compare past and current stats of weapons

[lone monolith]

It's a community wiki, you're free to go add patchlogs for everything. I would but I've been busy with my job.

[peak wedge]

i am not asking you to add this but i am responding to multiple messages that if it is not currently in the game then there is no place for it in wiki

It wasn't in the game back then so we didn't need to discuss it further

We just removed it from the list since it isn't usable anymore

We just don't include anything that isn't explictly in game and visible by the players.

[heavy gale]

there is also a change log history for most weapons which tells you the changes that were made to it from the patch notes, might need updating a bit or some adding but it's a work in progress.

[lone monolith]

There is a difference between legacy content removed from the game, that we still have pages for; and including speculation of a un-named rank that appeared in the ranked overview during CB2.

[peak wedge]

yes, i can actually see it for some weapons, but at first i opened healing beam and did not found any logs

[peak wedge]

there is no page for Rank at all

[heavy gale]

like I said, work in progress, most people who worked on the wiki at the beginning are very busy so we haven't gotten around to adding some things we've been wanting to add.

[lone monolith]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cashout It's included in the cashout page

[peak wedge]

yes, i am not pressuring to add everything, i just opened heal beam and did not see any changelog so gave a suggestion

[heavy gale]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Leagues

[lapis kindle]

we’re gonna have to move things around with the new S3 system

[peak wedge]

so you actually have some historical info and not only "what is currently in the game"

[heavy gale]

they are technically in the game though as cosmetics

[lone monolith]

We have a literal entire pre-release section on the wiki? "What is currently in the game" is the baseline for having a presence on the wiki. We won't include anything that's just being teased or briefly mentioned in game until it's actually in the game. Much like how we won't delete pages for things that aren't accessible in game anymore. We'll work on the leagues page when S3 comes out tomorrow; but you're free to go and add info about whatever you want for patch-logs for the equipment, we've got a list of all the patches on the wiki or you can go through them here: https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes

[dusty quail]

#1236419388723167272 message

#1250495573870641263 message

[golden laurel]

Pssssst wiki crew! (for real this time)

[sweet locust]

lets gooo

[heavy gale]

thanks Dusty

[sweet locust]

yeah

[lone monolith]

Thanks Dusty!

[lapis kindle]

ye i added the logos earlier today

[dusty quail]

wait do we have official maps for the last 3 maps before this
ALSO THANKS!!

[dusty quail]

oh this was official?

[heavy gale]

yep

[dusty quail]

haha didnt' recognise it with the non-red background

[heavy gale]

las vegas though, I'm not too sure if that's unofficial one or official

[dusty quail]

not sure why it's differently shaded than the others though

[heavy gale]

#📂┇the-finals-wiki message

[dusty quail]

yeah I believe it but just saying, playable area here is gray, instead of red

they probably just forgot

[peak wedge]

i think red here = POI

[dusty quail]

for sure but it's the only map with that rule, would be nice to have them consistent in coloring!

[peak wedge]

yeah, they actually did not split Vegas with the same rule

[dusty quail]

unofficial map

[lapis kindle]

that’s community made

official ones have the footer and printmarks

[peak wedge]

https://mywikis-eu-wiki-media.s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/thefinals/thumb/Atsuhiro_Las-Vegas_Overview-MAp.png/1920px-Atsuhiro_Las-Vegas_Overview-MAp.png

[heavy gale]

ahhhh yeah, that's made by Atsuhiro, so not official

[stoic plank]

Yup, Atsushiro does some amazing work

[narrow knot]

I think on the seasons page we can specify the original soundtrack, as I did on the season 3 page

[gusty bronze]

What is the link for this

[granite salmon]

What's night vision

[sweet locust]

night vision

[granite salmon]

I see

[mystic stirrup]

what time is it supposed to be released?

[sour flare]

also, why hasn't the wiki updated the image even though SPEAR already changed it?

tfwiki really slow

[heavy gale]

Might need to shift + F5 the page

[sour flare]

it's fix! thanks

[heavy gale]

All pages or specific pages ?

[sour flare]

i think it's only this page

[heavy gale]

@solemn zodiac bo13 for TA ranked and then still bo7 for normal TA

[regal bay]

the world tour counts to leagues rewards??

[heavy gale]

world tour has it's own rewards not linked to ranked TA rewards

[sweet locust]

heres the diamond fcar cus all of you are skill issue (i gave it to kyne already i just want to flex)

[sour flare]

look nic

[heavy gale]

no diamond m11 though bozo

[harsh umbra]

Is there no season 3 pack in the store or will that be added later?

[sour flare]

there is

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3025990/THE_FINALS__Season_3_Starter_Pack/?curator_clanid=42849803

[haughty lake]

they are already in

[harsh umbra]

damn it doesnt cost multibucks only anymore...

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[sour flare]

please support the dev

[harsh umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/pot-of-greed-yu-gi-oh-pots-troll-face-funny-face-gif-9648910297153417054

I did.... 2 seasons ago

[sour flare]

do it again then

[harsh umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-no-nope-nah-never-gif-16208499

[sour flare]

exactly

[pearl fern]

Is the finals wiki's main color going to be red or pink this season? I haven't seen any pink UI elements in the game, but if the designer wants it to be pink.. (it will probably be hard to read though)

[lapis kindle]

it’s just a highlight color to match the season’s palette. nothing else

but if you have a better suggestion by all means

[heavy gale]

it's like how we had purple for the colour pills last season but aqua/blue for the highlights

[pearl fern]

I think the design last season worked well. I think these colors are quite close, but obviously the pills can't be pink for contrast reasons.

(...)

[safe lion]

what about the text being pink then?

[pearl fern]

I think the main thing that's making it look a little off (in my opinion) is the fact that it uses the same red as S1, and now it kind of looks like some elements were accidentally not updated , while others were updated to a new palette

my personal suggestion is to use a different red for the pills than classic red. such as something closer to rose; this will make it clear that it's a cohesive updated design

[safe lion]

i like the red but i think adding pink to the text wouldnt be too bad

[pearl fern]

for example it could use these two colors (pink and rose) instead of pink and red

bordeaux red is also used this season, which could also be used for the pills instead

[pearl fern]

thats my thoughts atm

in short it would be to either use one color consistently (like S1's red) or to use a combination of two new colors (like last season) and not mixing the old red with a new color

[lapis kindle]

ye i completely understand! i think you’re right. we should stick to default red if that’s the color of the Season unless we see other colors in UI like the purple

[heavy gale]

that's why they're red

[lapis kindle]

at least for button colors. i don’t mind the cherry blossom for hyperlinks

[pearl fern]

i agree that the pink on hyperlinks looks good

and that the pink doesn't look great on the edit button

[lapis kindle]

ye after a second look, i agree

[sand venture]

If we have transcribed the new credits. Do you want them for the wiki?

[pearl fern]

it would be nice to have that documented somewhere!

[lapis kindle]

there could be a section for it in EE perhaps?

[pearl fern]

lol i just had a look and was wondering what 'krabme' meant but it's just embark letters flying around

[lapis kindle]

since it pertains more to that realm and a bit to lore

[pearl fern]

oh wow the t ext at the bottom is really long

for some reason i thought you meant the staff roll lol

[lapis kindle]

previous season where like this. S3 is like 12-15mins long?

[pearl fern]

oh dang never knew

i apologize for the ugly mockup but since the sunset seems to be the main design element of s3 it could possibly be incorporated into the design in other ways but it would be a departure from the flat color so i don't know

[lapis kindle]

that looks nice but we tried that for S2 as well and it just doesn’t read well. we could use the gradient tho

[pearl fern]

what i mentioned earlier is something like this where you have a darker shade of pink for the pill

[lapis kindle]

i think that looks good tbh

[pearl fern]

yeah a gradient would reflect the sunset well enough i think

[lapis kindle]

can you share the hex?

[pearl fern]

0xD21F3C

& light pink is same as before

[lone monolith]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Secrets_in_THE_FINALS

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I've transcribed the S2 one for the wiki and put it here

[sand venture]

finished transcribing it
#easter-eggs message

[lone monolith]

Lovely

[hybrid pasture]

did anyone see this charm? i see no one talk about it an know nothing about it. only that i have it

[stiff dove]

it's the reward of the first Rookie Circuit

[hybrid pasture]

oh, ok thanks matte

[knotty lily]

Does anyone know how to equip backgrounds?

[lapis kindle]

need the hex for this shade of pink so i can test it

[lapis kindle]

this one turned out too similar to the base red

[pearl fern]

looks like i gave you the wrong shade, it's D2365F

[buoyant gate]

is someone gonna update the wiki or what

[pearl fern]

it's gonna take a bit, the wiki editors are volunteers. is there any info you're looking for in particular?

[buoyant gate]

just the bow

[pearl fern]

bow is a long range weapon similar to sniper, charge it up for full damage and velocity, it can headshot. aps cant kill it. thats all i can give you rn

[buoyant gate]

i wish embark would be transparent with damage but i guess that is too much to ask

[heavy gale]

@pearl fern did you do the loadout icons last time?

[pearl fern]

yeah, i can collect the icons for the new weapons

[heavy gale]

that would be awesome, danke

[pearl fern]

okay, I updated the pics on the item pages, and added the new cards to the builds page

[heavy gale]

Thanks lim

[minor finch]

Hey @lapis kindle just checking, do you have lots of S3 cosmetic uploads in the works? I was about to add some but don't want to create any duplicates or name conflicts etc.

[lapis kindle]

i have all of them already exported so no need to worry, i'll upload soon! ty tho

[minor finch]

great to hear, thanks!

[lucid chasm]

does anyone know when we are getting the juggernaut skin thats in the steam page?

[solar abyss]

It is probably a situation like "Goth Girl" from S2. They will probably allow us to get it later on

[smoky gale]

add to the Wiki
The finals was a new twist to the FPS Genere with a completely unique gamestyle...until they messed it all up and forced people to play TA for ranked rewards and the game died.

[round lake]

What's the dps of the famas after the buff? Is it better than the other two AR's?

[heavy gale]

weapons/gadgets have the updates stats, added radius to the gadgets infobox as we now know some of the radii for gadgets. Some DPS values were removed from weapons until we work out the values again

@pearl fern As you're the amazing creator of https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Goo (love that page btw), are you able to update the image to represent the goo grenade is now 2x6 instead of 2x4?

[pearl fern]

Oh huh, apparently they swapped the wall sizes of the grenade and barrel.. the barrel is now 2x4 😅 it's strange

The way the goo is connected also got changed. and the chain breaks down a lot more slowly. I'll update the graphic

[heavy gale]

thanks Limoen

[worldly adder]

how can we contribute? I noticed there is no wiki page for World Tour and Engimo Open yet

[static light]

you can always create new pages or click the edit button at the top right of a page to contribute!

[pearl fern]

Collected the icons for all the new items and the new level 8 leopard print, will be adding item mastery section to each page along with some other changes later

[minor finch]

My two cents is that we should use the signature red again. The pink tint is present in some S3 art, but actual in-game elements have almost entirely reverted to the S1 palette, and (imo) the wiki should reflect that.

[lapis kindle]

we can go back to it, it was like that earlier

[pearl fern]

I think the way to make this work will be to add the gradient in the icon

just make it clear it's an intentional design choice

[round lake]

Does the fcar have better hip fire accuracy than the ak?

[haughty lake]

ok

[coral vale]

What is the level 8 skin is that a bug or is meant to look like that

[heavy gale]

the icon doesn't really show it off because it's mainly a dark skin

[coral vale]

Doesn’t look too great IMO

[pearl fern]

Their dispersion on hipfire is practically the same

[pearl fern]

@lapis kindle nice images for the new items, although I just want to say that i think the bow image is a little bit strange and that it may be worth rotating the view slightly (even if that means a part of the bow leaves the frame)
because right now this image doesn't seem like a great representation of the bow, it's just a stick.

something like that, although i feel like it'd make more sense for the bow to be (somewhat) upright instead of laying flat

[lapis kindle]

ye i agree!

i’ll update it soon

[flat folio]

do we still need these?

I can get them if you wanna but I thought @minor finch already got the pictures

[minor finch]

I can get the Plat rewards and Gold M60, it's just the silver and bronze icons missing

(and a bunch of S1 icons too)

[flat folio]

I have the S1 bronze sticker

[minor finch]

that would be great

[flat folio]

give me a few seconds

[pearl fern]

s1 gold needed?

[minor finch]

yep

[flat folio]

that screen gucci?

And also do we have a list of every icon that's needed?

[minor finch]

yes, perfect

[minor finch]

thank you both!

[minor finch]

Not a definitive list. I can only think of a few atm

• S1 Diamond sticker
• S1 Plat sticker
• S2 Silver charm
• S2 Silver sticker
• S2 Bronze sticker
• CB1 Closed Beta Chic outfit
• CB1 model skin
• CB1 MGL skin
• CB1 V95 skin

[flat folio]

👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

the one above this outfit?

everytime i see it i'm reminded that it's pretty rare heheh

[minor finch]

yes that one exactly! thank you

[flat folio]

[flat folio]

wait i selected the one right below

Do i need to take another screen so another is selected?

[minor finch]

I'm starting to think they removed the light bleed in season 3, so no need

[flat folio]

okay!

[static light]

TIL that Dual Blades can block (but not reflect) melee damage. This Heavy does a right click with the Sledgehammer (normally 200 dmg), so the damage reduction is 66% (took 66 damage).