easter-eggs

[dull marsh]

Isnt this the one that purple madness posted earlier? https://archive.reading.ac.uk/news-events/2009/February/pr19825.html

[sharp flame]

@dull marsh okay after a lot of research I've found the original

it's a paywalled paper!

I can access it with my university credentials, however. :)

[solid jay]

So Dissun points to the origin of/or the 1st words of the english language. Which originates in the EU. Caedmon is spelled using old english Æ. Old english stems from the German languages and would further connect to Nordic language.

The firsts of NA would belong to Viking settlers who landed in Newfoundland who are often missing or forgotten as the original settlers.

The silk road link to Asia would be the worlds first trade route

[sharp flame]

obviously I can't share the whole paper but this is what it is

[crisp eagle]

existentialism could be a theme in VAIIYA pic as well with the possible "roquentin" clue and Simone Weil. She can kinda be a double meaning one

[sharp flame]

Strong agree!

[sharp flame]

Possibly. World's first as a theme MIGHT only apply to the EU image. @dull marsh told me about the theory for "O ∅ X" (the clue Rob gave us about this Level

[crisp eagle]

what's interesting to me about that, though, is both her and Jean-Paul Sartre are French. Odd to have them involved in our NA image

[sharp flame]

the order we already have is

1. DISSUN - EU
2. VAIIYA - NA
3. ISEULT - ASIA

this lines up with the order given by this image here:

as well as the order the images were released!

[crisp eagle]

But why EU again before AS

[sharp flame]

me and @dull marsh believe that the DISSUN image #2 was only provided to steer us to the right track

Remember, we only found CAEDMON last week!

[solid jay]

A Dissun image was released prior to the Vaiiya image though also?

[sharp flame]

Rob only gives us help when we're completely missing the point - and give me a sec to explain that

[crisp eagle]

oh ok. to possibly make it "easier" on us since we missed so much from the first

[ocean knot]

🤧

[sharp flame]

yeah. 80% of the clues in "DISSUN #1" lead to CAEDMON and we couldn't solve a single one at the time, haha

in fact, we took a whole year

[solid jay]

so if Caedmon was a first who were 2 and 3?

[dull marsh]

Yeah fish was pointing out how the composition of all 3 images is the same, except for DISSUN 2

[sharp flame]

@solid jay @crisp eagle @dull marsh see how these 3 images are supposed to be the main ones?

[solid jay]

Yup

[crisp eagle]

Yea I've always felt they were kinda the "theme" of it

[solid jay]

makes sense with how they are structured.

[sharp flame]

let's point out the dates now:

DISSUN #1 : 17/12/2024

VAIIYA #1 : 21/12/2024

DISSUN #2 : 24/01/2025

ISEULT #1 : 25/01/2025

there is.. over a month break after VAIIYA

[crisp eagle]

I was just about to say he even released them 1 day apart

[dull marsh]

Thinking about it, the idea of Origin makes even more sense looking only at DISSUN #1

1. Street location (Andrew Church N16)
2. Window to look at (Caedmon)
3. Text fragments (Caedmons hymn, the origin of everything)
4. Center of europe, origin of a circle

[sharp flame]

Rob gives us a bit of time to power through each image before sending the next one, usually

so he drops the VAIIYA one after a week

but then he sees us completely FAIL at DISSUN #1 so he makes a DISSUN #2 which uses a part of the commercial, instead of a character shot, it's clearly out of place

[crisp eagle]

yea and then he drops the "help" along with the next themed image back to back

[sharp flame]

and he drops it right before ISEULT yeah

man I feel like a detective on the final solving scene

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-dead-man-knives-out-daniel-craig-benoit-blanc-jazz-hands-gif-940683458403348265

[dull marsh]

Also powe_i_powe would likely point at Eulers identity (been pointed out before) which is just about the circle too

[crisp eagle]

that was my thought (my) this morning when I babbled about it. it does really seem like Caedmon was the poing, and Rob needed to nudge us because round one was too difficult

[sharp flame]

oh which clues?

[solid jay]

"The FINALS" solving scene

[dull marsh]

powe_i_powe, "e", "pow" and "i"

[solid jay]

I never thought about it that way but yes

[crisp eagle]

I don't get the pow part

wouldn't we need pi

[solid jay]

exponent

pi is pi

[dull marsh]

pow can also be used for power as in exponent yes

I'm not saying it perfectly points at it, but I remember it being mentioned already back then

[crisp eagle]

it sure is.

I just didn't know what pow was.

[sharp flame]

@dull marsh

we may have missed the obvious

Bede is still part of the stained glass

[dull marsh]

Yeah I've looked (and others) into Bede, I didnt find much so far

[sharp flame]

wait for it

"he was originally ignorant of the art of song but learned to compose one night in the course of a dream, according to .. Bede"

[solid jay]

https://tenor.com/view/well-we-are-waiting-come-on-bring-it-gif-18944947

[solid jay]

a dream inspired by god yes

[sharp flame]

AND GUESS WHAT BEDE SAID THAT ORIGINAL DREAM WAS

While asleep, he had a dream in which "someone" (quidam) approached him and asked him to sing principium creaturarum, "the beginning of created things."

he'd been asked to sing about the beginning of... everything

the... origin...........

duh

[dull marsh]

yes, thats why we mentioned origin lol

[sharp flame]

that's what Bede said Caedmon's beginning is

[sharp flame]

LMAO okay well I got there late

[dull marsh]

cuz the poem is about the origin of everything hehe

[solid jay]

Yeah creation/firsts is heavily a theme of the EE

[dull marsh]

hey you're getting there hehehe

[sharp flame]

bruh it could not be more obvious

[crisp eagle]

Maybe the 357 clue in VAIIYA is the caliber since ‘Merica

[dull marsh]

i will paste what I said earlier to fish

I think:
O = europe (origin, center/circle)
∅ = NA (N/A, empty)
X = Asia (silk road crosses asia)

interestingly it matches the order

[sharp flame]

true, but specifically on the DISSUN side of the fence we have the origin of English language, Caedmon's Hymn, a clue about the Origin, and the CENTRE of europe, of which, the "origin" is the centre. I mean COME ON!

[crisp eagle]

Bede is also the “father of English history” along with Herodotus being our “father of history”

[sharp flame]

and it's crazy how all of those Dissun clues point to Europe too

or at least are contained in the Europe sphere

[solid jay]

Yeah so I would imagine we need to look for other "firsts" in the other images.

[crisp eagle]

That’s the main thing that throws me off with VAIIYA. It doesn’t really point to NA

[sharp flame]

null = N/A = NA

[dull marsh]

• Origin
• Missing/lost/empty/void
• Cross/crossing/...

[solid jay]

It points to the missing landmass.

[crisp eagle]

Oh yea duh

[dull marsh]

null/empty/missing = N/A is a fairly solid connection imo

[hard forge]

i concur

[solid jay]

so what would lead someone to explore for something that might not even be there?

[sharp flame]

also we have the #160704 - I just discovered that 1607/04 (April 1607) was the first Colony of America, the founding of the USA

[crisp eagle]

Ok yea I forgot that too. Along with the endeavor stuff

[sharp flame]

we've also recontextualized the STS-88 clue in VAIIYA, since this shuttle also marked America's joining/introduction to their part of the ISS

[dull marsh]

One thing I still wonder tho is about Robs clue:
1EdTerryBeth2Dunsmure3Mervin

• 1 = missing (NA)
• 2 = caedmon (EU)
• 3 = ?? (Asia)
  Why is it in this order? And how is Merv a clue for the asian stuff?

Best finding I have so far is this city which is on the silk road https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merv

[sharp flame]

so we have
Europe + Origin
North America + Emptiness
Asia + Crossing

[solid jay]

While likely the correct connection. North America was first discovered by Vikings.

[sharp flame]

yeah, it's more the States we know today

which is why I don't think it was pointing to "historical firsts" like we originally thought

it's more about the founding of the provinces that currently exist

[crisp eagle]

All things. Nothing. And crossing between the two realms

[gloomy anvil]

I'm so sad that the order of 1 and 2 in this clue are switched

unless we have it wrong

[hard forge]

from pole to pole, what's the pole of silk route?

[sharp flame]

Q: "what is your thought on how EE hunters should piece clues together?"
A: 1EdTerryBeth2Dunsmure3Mervin

[solid jay]

So who are Ed Terry Beth

OR is Ed Terry Beth one person?

[gloomy anvil]

I think people identified those names as actors in a film called Missing

[crisp eagle]

so the correct order is actually 213?

[solid jay]

This looks to be the case

[gloomy anvil]

not confirmed by Rob

[solid jay]

But it does point to missing

[crisp eagle]

shoot not much of this is anymore

[solid jay]

which would check out

[sharp flame]

yep, so we can "discount" that one for now

[crisp eagle]

do we still think that Terry, Kate, Beth points to Alice in Wonderland

[sharp flame]

no

[solid jay]

Didn't we have a Jack Lemmon clue at one point?

[sharp flame]

just being blunt
the last names seem too specific

[crisp eagle]

the last names look like dang numbers to me still

I've never seen letters

[crisp eagle]

Wait a minute. I’m an idiot. I’ve been looking for all women with the Terry, Kate, Beth clue. Terry is most likely a man’s name. That’s the masculine spelling.

[sharp flame]

you may be onto something but I'm just checking that you know that we found Terry, Beth and Kate from the movie Missing which lines up with the Emptiness clues already

[solid jay]

I believe in the movie Terry is a woman

[crisp eagle]

Oh I thought that was the other clue. I get the two clues mixed up where we got three names

[crisp eagle]

This. But I also forgot it’s 1

Confusing having Terry and Beth part of two clues, but for different regions

[dull marsh]

Mervin was also pointing at the HEX game by Piet Hein https://wiki.c2.com/?HistoryofHex

Hex, short for "hexadecimal base counting", was invented in France in the year 770 AD. In that time Mervin, a famous wizard, became a counselor to King Charlemagne because he had 8 fingers on each hand.

It's not a legend which is exclusively linked to the HEX game, I'm also seeing stuff like

The hexadecimal color system we use on websites is attributed to an 8 fingered wizard named Mervin in 770AD.
so it's clearly a link to the creation of hex, but the first link on google when searching ''mervin hex' is about HEX game so along with GRUK clue it's solid

[crisp eagle]

I'm seeing that the mervin thing is an internet myth

[sharp flame]

yep! a silly website that people have quoted to be the (false) origin of hex

but it doesn't have to be true to be a clue

Rob loves doing cheeky stuff like this.. and the Mervin --> Hex origin is just the sort of thing he'd do, I think!

[crisp eagle]

that is a very good point hahaha

[alpine junco]

I have a feeling that once we get all three passwords for each column it locks in a coordinate and then it becomes a clickable link to the next stage/image

[surreal sinew]

i sent the study on redings archive site earlier i can send it again let me just find the link i sent earlier

@sharp flame https://archive.reading.ac.uk/news-events/2009/February/pr19825.html

[surreal sinew]

sorry for the pings i should have read more 😅

[surreal sinew]

wait isint the hunt meant to be free??

[surreal sinew]

Probably a very stupid thought but it popped into my head so ill say it but i have absoulutly zero basis for it. (ok wait it was 2 but the first one was trying to bend it into swedish math terms cus it sounded kinda like it but il skip it since it didint really work)
1EdTerryBeth, 1EdT reminds me of edit and TerryBeth (have to use T twice since it doesnt work very well without) Terrible then we have 2Dunsmure reminds me of Dunsmure being a a city in Siskiyou County California but also a old scottish surname (so 2 diffrent uses for dunsmure) 3Mervin makes me think slightly about mervin being a welsh name but thats tying into the previous one but mostly makes me think about MIRV (Multiple Independently targetable Reentry Vehicle) which would tie into space, being able to target multiple places (continets 3 continets 3 mirvs?)

Thank you for coming to my ted talk thats my dumb idea over il be in the lobby to awnser any questions you may have

[surreal sinew]

oh glad to see it wasent only me maybe my first idea had some merit

(after reading through the rest of your thoughts me idea seems so much dumber :/ )

[surreal sinew]

Uh I noticed smth wierd when he was inspecting the iPad how he could see through it like it kinda highlights the ground https://youtube.com/shorts/7pTo0NYA8Mk?si=86VxYb5-XvMyOACk

Wonder if it can be used for seeing something

[fresh quiver]

good. We talked the same day just some time prior about this already 😂
I was allso on the trip to find the actual study

[surreal sinew]

i do think i found the right one tho

[surreal sinew]

@fresh quiver what screen is on this multi device i cant find it

dont they all show logos ontop

[fresh quiver]

ingame? bro. idk 😅

I do hunting but barely barely play the game. I played it in OB and some times afterwards but not that much.

But sometimes I do start the game up...

Rob give me my S9 credits scroll 😭

[surreal sinew]

uhh whats IO

[fresh quiver]

I. not IO. corrected it 😄

[surreal sinew]

yeah i saw it looks like that one music video somewhere above

wasent that smth rob was part of

[surreal sinew]

all that effort wasted

[fresh quiver]

there would be more effort for me IF there would be a S9 scroll xD

Then I would have transcribed it again

[surreal sinew]

Wait why

[surreal sinew]

Ooo

I wonder how much is hidden in it

[fresh quiver]

just check this out
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1223583053004144782
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1250090765556645929
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1288851829068795955
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1332491399928746014

[fresh quiver]

Or just my newest addition / thread

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1382695750252888065

collection of all scroll textes. Most of them I have transcribed

[surreal sinew]

Oh damn

[fresh quiver]

I hope the golden namatama on Kyoto is not locked behind the missing discs 💀

...ok to all of you EE hunters out there... missing discs...

what does it have in comming with the hunt? "missing". its a long throw. but

[fresh quiver]

(Notification disabled for no rob ping)

CNS
4111 seek the truth.

Have we ever solved 4111?

[velvet narwhal]

I don't think we've solved it

[surreal sinew]

maybe we just need to wait for some pictures to be sent out

[unkempt dune]

The first thing that came to mind is T9 because of 111, but the one key is the most iffy since there's so many different possibilities.

Ex. In Nokia phones it was:
. , ? ! ' " - @ : ; / ( ) 1

So with 4111, it'd be G?

[crisp eagle]

Where did we get 4111

[fresh quiver]

cns

[crisp eagle]

Brain = dead

[fresh quiver]

could also be a Uni or Alt code.
Alt-code: 4111 = ဏ

Unicode: Unicode Character “䄑” (U+4111)
Meaning: (same as standard form 䄆) (non-classical form) to worship; to honor by a rite or service; to offer sacrifices, an institution, law, to perform rites in honor of gods

[surreal sinew]

the alt code looks like a ram (the animal not the unobtainable item)

[fresh quiver]

Am I wrong we have seen that before?

[snow walrus]

gotta be one of the houses in england

[fresh quiver]

its a part of the Coat of Arms of the University of Reading.
Also the UoR had something todo with a "Sir David Bell"
It also has a Whiteknight Campus. Which somehow reminds me of darknight.

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rose_of_Lancaster

[surreal sinew]

ROSE

not again

[fresh quiver]

The Whiteknight campus is 1.3 square kilometres
What are 1.3 square kilometres converted?

321 acres

[fresh quiver]

and here is the complete coat of Arms.
3 clamps, a "rose" and a white cross

back to George V

The institution became a university with the power to grant its own degrees in 1926 by royal charter from King George V, and was the only university to receive such a charter between the two world wars.

Student accommodation is provided in a number of halls of residence offering a mix of partially catered (19 meals per week)

Connection found between St. Andrews church and University of Reading

St. Andrews Hall closed in 2000 and is now the home of the Museum of English Rural Life.

[surreal sinew]

did we ever find any of the hints that rob hid throught the internet

[fresh quiver]

some comments under youtube videos. Mostly they were found because the youtubers themselve were hunters or a hunter watched the videos

[surreal sinew]

ok

[surreal sinew]

I feel like we should look for forums

[fresh quiver]

I would suspect BBSes more then Forums.

[surreal sinew]

whats that

oh wait nvm

u mean the bullitin thing for a second i htought u mean the news channel lol

[fresh quiver]

@unborn pilot did we both looked through all robs demozoo things or was that with @gloomy anvil ?

anyway... I might have found something we overlooked all the time....

BBSes

There is a BBS called Multi Nat. Co on demozoo.
This BBS is affiliated with iNSANE

[crisp eagle]

iNSANE looks to also be affiliated with a BBS called X-Files

[solid jay]

I was looking into demoscene stuff the other day. Is this the one Rob was affiliated with? Or am I misremembering it?

[fresh quiver]

Yes. Correct.
Rob aka. Dr.Rob aka. TmX aka. TerminatorX is affiliated with iNSANE

[surreal sinew]

That’s allot of aka

[fresh quiver]

There are even more akas…
Let me search the list rcade and me did

[surreal sinew]

that’s crazy

[fresh quiver]

Atleast 14 names he gave us over time how he was called

[surreal sinew]

That’s crazy

[solid jay]

Cool I wasn't sure which group it was when I was looking before. I was only going off what I could find on Wiki about it, but found a few demoscene preservation sites

[fresh quiver]

Yeah. I think we searched for multiple hours to get everything together

[solid jay]

I'll see if I can find those sites again and see if any of those crop up.

[fresh quiver]

They will.
If you just go to demozoo on insane there are the other demogroup sites linked

[solid jay]

Been a bit less active because I've spent the last day and a half trying to figure out why my damn mouse was lagging and stuttering. Thinking it was a windows driver issue or resources issue. Turns out all I had to do was clean the sensor. Which is weird af cause the mouse is like brand new.

[surreal sinew]

Hey attleast it’s fixed

[hard current]

Current theory is that the RSA SSH key rob commented on from a CNS image is actually an ssh string to connect to a BBS where more CNS documents might be held

[fresh quiver]

Yeah. I like that theory still

wasnt one of the sponsor websites NOT hosted by squarespace but another hoster?
Did we ever tried if rob might did a telnet forwarding to the domain?

[solid jay]

This would also be considered a pentafoil. Like the one in the stained glass.

[eternal violet]

wasnt it already discussed that that string is not a valid ssh rsa key?

[fresh quiver]

we are just missing the key for it.

[eternal violet]

what do you mean youre missing a key for a key? ssh rsa is a key

[fresh quiver]

we are missing the cipher key for it.
See robs message

[eternal violet]

yea, that means the string is an encrypted message, not an ssh key

[fresh quiver]

who talked about ssh key? DevX said SSH string not key...

in theory this message could have been encoded with an public RSA key and we would need the private Key.

But have fun to find out a private key. that will be a mess

[eternal violet]

devx literally called it "RSA SSH key"

[fresh quiver]

"...is actually an ssh string to connect to a BBS...."

he even said that what we thought it MIGHT be an SSH RSA key is actually an SSH string

[eternal violet]

"ssh string" is not a thing

an "ssh string to connect to" something is called a key

[surreal sinew]

to many acronyms my brain frying

[hard current]

The string itself could be an ssh url is what I meant

[alpine junco]

hmmm

[inland hemlock]

its checking you out i think it wants you bro

[alpine junco]

squared dot operator (U+22A1) 😻

[fresh quiver]

yeah. we might should go back and visit it again...

iirc we were close with the key?

[unkempt dune]

@fresh quiver

[fresh quiver]

knew someone would have it ready. Wouldnt have known the right search term without searching for 15min 🤣

[unkempt dune]

the weird part is that it sounds like he's seen someone attempt to use a key before

which is confusing in itself

[fresh quiver]

we tried to guess some keys etc. iirc

Now we just need every key we mentioned in some way and try to look for derivates?

[unkempt dune]

I don't think anything of the sort was discussed in here

[hard current]

A couple of character of missing f?

The problem is that he responded to the RSA part, if this is RSA encrypted then we need numbers

[austere rover]

I've been hung up on what chemical that is on the clear board for a long while now.. Tried my best to reverse image search it, comparing it to several dozens of other chemical structures before coming to this one. Thoughts?

[dull marsh]

Hasnt this been solved already?

[austere rover]

It has??

[dull marsh]

I don't remember the exact molecule, but this is an old image...

Yup

[austere rover]

Huzzah! Thank youu! That's quite interesting

[dull marsh]

That was a clue for CaCO3 (calcium carbonate)

[austere rover]

I was taking note that it looked like the rose of Lancaster mentioned a bit earlier

Though with some added bits

[dull marsh]

My brain in stuck on the idea of

• O = Origin
• ∅ = N/A
• X = cross
  in association with what the Black Knight says to King Arthur "None shall pass!"
• N/A = none
• pass = cross (the bridge in this case)

[odd sequoia]

Hey y’all, not sure if anyone’s noticed but…the credit sequence still says season 8 and hasn’t been updated. Halfway into season 9. So there could be something there we’re missing. Just throwing that out there

Like the whole thing from last season is still there I mean

[surreal sinew]

yeah especially since it wasent there in the start of the season who was it that made the video saying we where missing it

[inland hemlock]

#1450477246245769297 message second time now....

[odd sequoia]

I wonder if there was something we were meant to find

[fresh quiver]

you might want to link to the EE thread for it? As it is also not this cluttered?
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1382695750252888065

We have this not without reason 😄

[robust junco]

What keys are they pressing
And why do they have rock salt?

[robust junco]

On the white paper on the wall, cns is circled with letters in red pointing to each letter p t and e

[austere rover]

Looks like ALT+D+H+L

[inland hemlock]

true, mine was a reply to what purple said too

[robust junco]

C=p
N=t
S=e

[austere rover]

Looks like the keycaps for A, C, O and 3 are missing...

[dull marsh]

Yes CaCO3 😄

[austere rover]

Looks like we've come full circle 😂

[fresh quiver]

1. ‘E’ and ‘e’
   Perhaps pointing to E -> 3 -> iii

2. Missing keys ‘C’, ‘A’, ‘O’, ‘3’
   Can be used to spell out CaCO3

3. Protoporphyrin IX
   Per Wikipedia:

[T]he component in egg shells that give them their characteristic brown color.

4. Remember CNS/PTE
   Unsolved

5. Underlined letters
   Unsolved
   Multiple elements of the periodic table visibly have their first letter underlined.
   Notably the element Hs (Hassium) has its ‘H’ underlined, but it crossed out with a black marker. Rob reacted with a 🤔 to a message which noted this fact.
   Excluding the ‘H’ from Hs leaves a set of letters which can spell out the word “MONARCHIES”.

6. Crossed out elements
   Unsolved

Xenon (Xe-54)
Caesium (Cs-55)
Lanthanum (La-57)
Gold (Au-79)

7. X=5, Y=6
   Unsolved

8. More snowflakes

9. 20 Krona Note
   Unsolved
   Features many references to famous Swedish children’s author Astrid Lindgren and her well known book Pippi Longstocking.

10. Rock salt
    Unsolved

11. Coffee Stain
    Unsolved
    I suspect we are being trolled and this is a simple coffee stain, but Rob has egged on investigations into it.

12. Lobster
    The American Lobster Homarus americanus, maintains stable [amorphous calcium carbonate] throughout its yearly molt cycle

13. Rob and Unknown

thats for 13.

We presume this to be a photo of Rob based on the visible armband and baseball cap. He appears to be displaying the ILY sign with one hand and the shaka sign or the letter Y from ASL’s American Letter Alphabet with the other.
His lower half appears to be merged with some partial concentric ovals, vaguely resembling the shape of an eye.

@coarse dagger I know you are not often here anymore.
But sometimes the Obsidian Vault is still gold

[surreal sinew]

maybe pte and cns are eqal distances in part in the alphabet

@fresh quiver it is almost certainly pointing to Astrid Lindgren since that version of the 20 kr note is no longer in circulation they changed the art when i was like 8 or 9 years old smth like that

but yeah its no longer legal tender

[fresh quiver]

I know.

These Clues / Infos the hunters extracted out of it are about 1.5 years old

[austere rover]

If there was anything else I was curious about in that picture, it's the paper picture on the lower right of the four on the wall. I haven't seen a contestant display like that in the arena, is that something that happens if you get a teamwipe as Dede on Seoul?

[surreal sinew]

ah oki

[timid solstice]

hope all you hunters are well

[fresh quiver]

Hi Flex! Hope you are doing well too!
Nice to see your name again

we finally made some progress 😂 We found the mystery man, shepherd and the blob atleast

or more like @low escarp found them

[timid solstice]

just catching up on power is power

legend

he found him before caedmon was solved? ha amazing
#easter-eggs message

[dull marsh]

yeah we solved quite a few of the other clues retrospectively

[timid solstice]

im looking for the blobstar find

[robust junco]

Also, the mug has a message from dusty on it

[timid solstice]

so it was litterally the top of that image ha nice

[dull marsh]

#1318635922350149736 message

[robust junco]

Also where did and when did we get this photo

[dull marsh]

Posted by Rob I think

It's 1.5 years old remember

if not 2 years old 😄

[austere rover]

You can find it and the others in the #official-art channel

[robust junco]

Any thoughts?

[fresh quiver]

there was a story behind it. Would need to search it.
Ludo probably knows out of his head

[dull marsh]

Afaik it was legit Dusty sending a message full of garbage by accident, they probably printed it on a mug for the laugh

I'm not aware if there is more meaning behind it

[fresh quiver]

You were there when this image was released from rob.
Do you know if you or anyone else talked about the markings on this part of the paper?

[timid solstice]

yeah they were discussed

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message

scroll up from there

we were all freaking out trying to solve it

[fresh quiver]

we have never found the dusty graffiti

[robust junco]

WAIT

That paper. That A signature looking shape. Its in the finals.

Its on a weapon

I have seen it.

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message

around here

[fresh quiver]

If I get back to this.
In theory. If they "forgot" them intentionally. It would make sense for S6 and S9.
If they are flipped 6 and 9 are the same

[fresh quiver]

i see

[unkempt dune]

I've considered putting a new one together, but there'd be a ton of work to do

[unkempt dune]

this same sticky note appears in ARC Raiders, but mirrored (all of these sticky notes on this wall are mirrored)... It seems like it could be a sticky note that was merely taken from ARC. It's higher resolution here, which leads me to say that

it could be a sticky note of a diagram from Speranza or something

the same embark logo sticky note from THE FINALS is also near it as well

this is the best resolution I can get at the moment. There's definitely some text on it, but this might fit better in #1368471596125392956 now

[sharp flame]

if you go inside the building, and look out the door... the doorframe and EXIT sign lines up preeeetty well

[odd sequoia]

Could this be some Truman show type stuff?

[sharp flame]

thinking so! we are literally in a "show"

[odd sequoia]

I know one of the rules is no need to go oob.. but like.. with stuff like this, seek the truth beyond the walls etc. I almost wonder if the bounds are fake on Horizon. Or maybe there’s a hole. Idk. Me and someone else were talking about it once.

[gloomy anvil]

God I wish something had happened with this

[sharp flame]

I do wonder if it's part of the Hunt, and we're just very behind

it would explain the lack of action, if a lot of this is supposed to tie-in to Level 3 + 4

[gloomy anvil]

CNS even had the "something lurks on the horizon" line about it, leading into S6, then nothing happened afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39LBdUdrQ2E

[gloomy anvil]

I imagine, if it is interactive, it would be running through the enter/exit doors in a certain order.

But just for an EE I'd hope. Progressing the lore itself shouldn't be the player's responsibility.

[sharp flame]

well I'd say S7 was pretty uhh big

CNS vs VAIIYA civil war

[alpine junco]

Press E to Exit

[sharp flame]

now you can be disappointed at your own leisure but it's clear that's what they were teasing with the CNS tie-in!

[gloomy anvil]

Yeah I can see how it was a tease for S7, with S6 in-between. I just wish the grid had meant something more.

[austere rover]

Wait, that sign is in Seoul.., just an observation, continue lol
(0:12) in the trailer*

[sharp flame]

I think it does....

[unkempt dune]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/ArtsyBlazingOpossumImGlitch-9r556yjN8Nj-xcE5

samras: Can we get a Level 3 clue?

rob: Awwww! That will start next week! Then I will start dropping clues again.

waterdance: [reading comment] Didn't we get Level 3 clues in the vault bundle today? I wonder if rob is excited for Season 5.

**rob: **Ohhh! Yeah that's right, we released, that's right. What that today, uh weapon bundle?

waterdance: Uh huh. Lost Legacy. Mhm

**rob: **Yeah! Hilarious name!

I wonder if it really is a Level 3 clue or something else

Maybe this novel is connected to the name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Legacy

[unkempt dune]

To add onto the discussion from yesterday, it does look like he pushed back the ISEUL-T image a bit because of caedmon based on this clip

[unkempt dune]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/UglySquareRadishM4xHeh-Tt1j_H0_wbKaoM3V

Waterdance: Is there an easter egg with the grid or is it just lore decoration?

rob: Easter egg.

Waterdance: Oh.

rob: It's lore decoration that actually means something for once.

Waterdance: For once, wow.

[sharp flame]

wait do they mean the grid out in the ocean? just checking

[unkempt dune]

yup

[unkempt dune]

We got a Triskelion this season because of the Golden Abundance charm in the Regal Yunflow Heavy bundle from two week ago.

When it came out, I know people were talking about the showcase video showing three different versions of the charm: https://youtu.be/BTO_qH7v8jQ?si=EqWtQyZK_p9m0hQB&t=10

one thing I just realized with gold is that technically is that it can connect with 19 and 6 because 196 is its rounded atomic weight

[unkempt dune]

either the Lost Legacy sticker's name was changed at some point to be Legacy Finder, or I'm going crazy

[gloomy anvil]

Yes it was, and the description, last July

Note the newly added focus on digging

[fresh quiver]

and then he mentions DIG some days ago here in chat...

I will need to investigate further, but first thoughts it could be connected to one of these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dig_(command)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dig_(video_game)

[surreal sinew]

looks like an AB kinda merged together (probably know this already but AB is aktiebolag which is roughly the same as LTD, Corp or PLC)

[surreal sinew]

yeah we where talking about there maybe being a hole in the skybox since rio said that he was flying when he found it

[fresh quiver]

Also .dig is a filename extension

[past karma]

What if the cashout on the sticker represents gold? Thus we get gold digging

"Gold Pavilion" looks awfully like, well, Kyoto's Pavilion area
https://nembutsu.cc/2021/07/28/the-gold-and-silver-pavilions-of-kyoto/

And there's an entire lake to search for the Nama...

Additionally, maybe something about old japanese gold digging might give us a clue

Additionally-additionally - there's a waterfall with rainbow lens flares effect near the Pavilion, outside the edge of the map, and it's somewhat interactive: if you throw/shoot an explosive in it, there's a water explosion effect I have never seen anywhere else in-game (not sure if it's the same one as when you just shoot the water surface)

The waterfall belongs to the same stream where two koi fish swim in an unusual pattern between the rocks

[surreal sinew]

i almost wonder if the snow shovel skin was also hinting to digging (feels unlikly since its a winter based cosmetic so probably time locked)

[surreal sinew]

can you get some kind of video of the waterfall

[past karma]

Well, not right now... But yes!

[surreal sinew]

Thanks i mean i technicly could rn since im on a laptop in class i dont have a good means to record it plus the quality would be dogshit (either good video bad fps or goodish honestly still bad fps but unwatchable quality)

[surreal sinew]

what if dig the finals servers

[surreal sinew]

or while in game we do the dig command (or maybe on embark wifi??)

[fresh quiver]

n.o.

[surreal sinew]

not even in game like just while the game is runing

[fresh quiver]

please read yourself about the dig command, before having ideas about it.

It is used for querying DNS. And this mostly does not care where you are

[surreal sinew]

(idk to much bout dns stuff just spitballing sorry if my ideas are dead stupid)

[surreal sinew]

yeah i will i just thought i might as well say the ideas even if they dont work maybe it sparks some other idea

[surreal sinew]

ok i looked just super quick and saw this does this mean we can dig something like embarks website

[fresh quiver]

it just queries the dns. not the website itself.

[surreal sinew]

ah so can he not hide anything there

[fresh quiver]

Well. in theory he could put things in a TXT record. But thats very unusual.
Also I checked all four of their domains.

But aslong as you dont know the subdomains, its mostly impossible

[surreal sinew]

i see so he probably wouldnt hide it there anyways

[vagrant mauve]

I should sleep but in case we didn't already know

[fresh quiver]

yes.

[fresh quiver]

now go sleep 😂

[agile wren]

Anyone hear new ambient at new map, someone is coughing 😧

[surreal sinew]

where

[agile wren]

Fangway city

[surreal sinew]

i get that but where in the city...

[agile wren]

Im was in spec mode, i dont remember 😭

[hard forge]

maybe some took gas dmg

[agile wren]

Mb but zis sound was specifically, and my friend heard that 2.

[fresh quiver]

think we saw something similar already somewhere?

[solid jay]

Looks like the burrw gif diamond clue. Also like the attribute clash thing I posted in regards to the Amiga.

[fresh quiver]

Its a Image of LL Pegasi shot by Atacama Large Millimeter Array.

I went from Triskele, to Archimedes spiral and there is a image of this

[solid jay]

This is an image of star formation in infrared though right?

Yup just googled. Binary star system obscured by its gas cloud. Believed to be a pre-planetery nebula.

[fresh quiver]

probably?
which observe electromagnetic radiation at millimeter and submillimeter wavelengths.

But its interesting how you can get from Triskele, to Archimedean spiral, to Pegasi etc.

[solid jay]

Yeah that whole Triskele thing makes me think of the 3 body problem 😂

[fresh quiver]

Imo never ever. but yes maybe.

But I would bet rob wouldnt give us a secondary clue. So it would need to go further

[solid jay]

Probably. That's just personally what came to mind when I initially saw those charms.

After doing the smallest amount of digging lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_three-body_problem

@fresh quiver it's likely just nothing. I was just trying to feed off my previous idea.

Didn't expect to find Euler's name on something dubbed a solution for something thought to be unsolvable.

It's interesting though because we have been looking at pentafoils which is also a type of knot and knot theory is also very interesting.

It's interesting to me because of it's place in DNA modelling.

[crisp eagle]

We’ve got our EU, NA, AS themes with the current Ο ∅ X theory:

EU: center/origin
NA: Null
AS: connect/crossing

I think it’s interesting how the STS-88 clue from VAIIYA is kind of a clue than can overlap all areas. It’s from NA, sure, but it also connects NA to EU and AS with Russia spanning both. A good old fashion “two birds with one stone” type of clue, maybe.

[crisp eagle]

Do we think each password will be a combination of these three overall area’s themes, or would MW.AREAs be those regions with their own passwords.

Maybe even each password in their respective rows across the three areas could mean something when combined, but the hard part is finding the “words” separately. They may not mean anything to us individually until we find all three across the row?

[solid jay]

The reason for European exploration that lead to the colonization of NA was to find a shorter trade route to China than the Silk Road through the Northwest Passage.

Let's not forget WHERE rob went on vacation. This was posted IN the EE channel not off topic.

(I didn't tag him don't worry lol)

Is Euler's identity used to calculate solstices somehow? I am not a big math guy.

[fresh quiver]

If you dont find any one google with the terms Leonhard Euler solstices. probably not

[solid jay]

Euler's Formula (not identity) is used to model rotational motion, wave functions and oscillations. The Fourier transform is used in astronomy to analyze orbital periods and predict season points like solstices.

So it is related but not directly.

But again not big math guy but from what I'm reading here Euler's formula can be rewritten as eiπ = −1 or eiπ + 1 = 0 which is known as Eulers identity

This is actually such a good gif for actually visualizing what the formula is calculating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_formula#/media/File:Rising_circular.gif
It's on the wiki

[dull marsh]

What if MW is indeed about Medium Waves?

1. Origin = antenna/emitter
2. Nothing = wireless, even in vacuum
3. Silk road/hex game = connecting 2 sides

[solid jay]

Nothing = imaginary

[dull marsh]

I think about that because Rob has mentioned old transistor radio and such, and there are the 3 ITU areas, etc. 🤔

[solid jay]

Could be. I'm trying to look for ways to apply this to Euler, but I like the Major Works angle also.

[austere rover]

I did hear this also, but I don't remember where either... But now that I think of it, SYS and Nozomi Citadel have been playing sounds also, I wonder if they all play sounds?

Maybe if we take some letters from the sounds from each map in release order or something it might be a thing, but that's just a thought. I'll have to have music off and pay attention and get back to this

[dull marsh]

Ok so

I've been looking a bit back at the S5 keyart

And I think there is a pattern:

• Kalydon = Kalydonian Boar Hunt = Boar = Black Knight (symbol on his armor)
• I WE WHO + North america = followed by TWO THREE + NA = missing ONE + N/A = "no one"
• Senidenary + Asia = Hex + silk road = "across"

Black Knight says "None shall cross", while the song "Crossed swords" is playing

This theory is missing a link between our current Europe stuff and Kalydon/boar, but that's a LOT of simple coincidences 🤔

Also the fact that they are in all 3 thirds, both direction

[alpine junco]

what if these paintings are significant to #1337427318716629002

[dull marsh]

The idea of I WE WHO (TWO THREE) pointing to "NO ONE" fits very well with Rob's clue 1EdTerryBeth2Dunsmure3Mervin, EdTerryBeth points at the movie "missing", so putting 1missing makes more sense than following the EU/NA/Asia order 🤔

[dull marsh]

The place where the Black Knight scene was filmed (Epping Forest) in relation to the St Andrew's N16 church

[gloomy anvil]

This feels like one of those things you'd look back on in a previous tier as "wow that makes the password super obvious"

Like o=0 and Latin

[plush magnet]

can anyone get a high res of the text on this item?

[surreal sinew]

i might be able to find that

or nvm

i cant lol

[fresh quiver]

You maaaaybe could link the boar hunt to the space blanket.. with the golden fleece which is mentioned in the wiki article. Just in theory you could link it I think.
But i am not this safe about my conclusion

[dull marsh]

I could see that as a connection, tho definitely not a main thing

[fresh quiver]

I just read again that there was a poet named Ovid 😭

[dull marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/flashback-bad-memory-vietnam-flashback-nam-flashback-gif-12213757

[fresh quiver]

and just the obvious thing which is probably also not the main thing.
Calydonian boar hunt -> greek mythology -> greek/greece -> Europe

[alpine junco]

#easter-eggs message

i went down that rabbit hole as well

[fresh quiver]

now find how we connect it all to europe with Ludos conclusion. :b

[alpine junco]

0voawwwmaaannn

[dull marsh]

William the conqueror's conquest was in 1064

[crisp eagle]

that's a good idea. I always thought he mentioned it as a nod to "Brown Eyed Girl"

[crisp eagle]

who is Kate then? I thought Terry Kate Beth pointed to that movie. Or is it both lists of names do?

[dull marsh]

Terry, Kate, Beth and Ed are all characters in the movies Missing

I suspect he swaped one to add more info as confimation and put Beth last, near Dunsmure, as a clue to Bethune

[crisp eagle]

ok noice! I missed that. Makes way more sense to me now. There's always one missing. Finally. I can sleep

[fresh quiver]

put Euler in a different way.

Eulers constant.

"Alternatively, e can be called Napiers constant after John Napier

[gloomy anvil]

hm so pointing to 1A or 1A pointing to it?

[fresh quiver]

John Napier was a mathematician, physicist and astronomer
another concidence: "At age 13, he was enrolled in St. Salvator's College, St Andrews

[crisp eagle]

Ok, so we have the 4-letter password on LV, right? It also sounds like whatever the "Big, colorful, pretty word" is doesn't need decoding. The way he talks about it in that clip, it sounds like it's simply jus that word. What word on that map is lit up and could match all three of our current themes somehow?

[dull marsh]

~~I think I've cracked a first step for the long base64

QjtofWEjcml9MhKBubGc4kBvpV+bZzENOIukEMcpglwgbq6ubU944Y8L0mibTU2JhDtcQ/MNGAygC0XL5VOEQICMjPqZ6q0LYWPC2QCqYr0dONuhErv+5cAmOn01uqWWI0VG0Zv5K4Ru9P8aEAMsPxe82pCyh6TosRTlEtyqgTg=

It gives a 2048 bit long binary, and if we split it in 2, we get the following:~~
TOOL I USED WAS BORKED, IGNORE

[fresh quiver]

His work Mirifici Logarithmorum Canonis Descriptio (1614) contained fifty-seven pages of explanatory matter and ninety pages of tables listing the natural logarithms of trigonomic funtions

Yes. Euler was often the clue. But what if part of Euler clues just point to Napier?

[dull marsh]

I've tried to do some operations with that binary to no avail so far, but it's definitely something

Basically the first half is 4x the second one (every time you shift a binary left by adding a 0 to the right you multiply it by 2)

[fresh quiver]

There are ten identities relating three elements chosen from the set a, b, c, A, B.

a, b, c, A, B could also be read as a, b, c, ONE, TWO

[eternal violet]

Whatever you're using is bugging the hell out, because the string contains 1024 bit data

[fresh quiver]

He talked a year prior already about the "cipher key"

[dull marsh]

oh?

no way it's a fake thing lmaoo

[dull marsh]

Seems like you're right, hmm, guess some tools don't like long strings of binary eh

Well I marked my stuff as wrong in earlier message lol

[shy oracle]

I wonder, if in the grand scheme of things, this points towards relating to the Garden of Eden.
The bitten apple in sys$horizon by CNS and the whole "seek the truth beyond walls" might be a representation of when Eve bit into the apple and they gained that awareness (among other things) of being bare in front of God. They also gained mortality. CNS wants us to be aware and to look for the truth.
That takes place in the Garden of Eden and Rob has been hinting that this is a garden.
I don't remember what item has the description of "there is no rose without its thorns" but I think it has to do when after biting into the fruit that thorns did appear.

[crisp eagle]

"thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field."

God curses the land and makes them work hard for little as punishment

[shy oracle]

Dang I definitely glossed over that, I assumed it had to do in direct relation to the roses

[crisp eagle]

I do like the overall thought though. Seems to be a lot of saints and Trinity clues floating around, so the theme would make sense

[white patrol]

didn't same guy discover why planet orbit in oval instead of circle?

[dull marsh]

Might be confusing with Kuiper? Not sure

[hard forge]

it's kepler bozo

[white patrol]

it's kepler bozo

[dull marsh]

It is Kepler bozo

Why we calling Kepler a bozo tho?

[white patrol]

you're the bozo

[ornate plover]

@winter mirage

[hard forge]

i think I have warned you already

[surreal sinew]

what if we just input every 4 letter word that you can see on las vegas

[vagrant mauve]

What exactly are the three current pings (sorry for late reply btw)

[fresh quiver]

which pings?
Might have not received any. Should check it yourself with the "discord inbox" there should all your pings listed

[crisp eagle]

I also misspoke. There’s a possibility it could be a word made up of 4 different letters. Might not be only 4 letter long. But we could do that haha

Buuuutttt that does become suspiciously close to “brute forcing” which we avoid. I’d rather try to figure it out than just type every word we see on the map

[surreal sinew]

I mean he said it’s obvious and it took like 10 seconds for him to find it so it’s not really brute forcing it’s more like trying the things he could have seen seems like he just wants us to see it and put it straight into the passwords

[crisp eagle]

That’s a fair argument. I’ll probably do some looking around this weekend

[surreal sinew]

Especially if it’s big glowy 4 letter words or maybe a big glowy sign is a anagram for a 4 letter word

[fresh quiver]

another way we could see Ø

Ø = turned by some degrees = ϕ (phi) = symbol for the golden ratio

[timid solstice]

seeing this again gave me an idea, not sure if others tried

if you flip the world map horizontal and offset to match the mw continent areas the order is correct

then I lined up the greek island

perhaps scaling the image around the other 2 areas will line up to something important?

[surreal sinew]

You might want to try it on the original picture without all the notes on it

[timid solstice]

more like this, then the zones hit a land area

[timid solstice]

im using the notes to line up the regions of interest

[surreal sinew]

Ahh I see but isint there a chance the notes are blocking stuff

[timid solstice]

"I WE WHO" lines up with Chile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Verde

Monte Verde has reshaped the way archaeologists think about the earliest inhabitants of the Americas
links with the earliest words

the other site maybe here?
Dumont d'Urville Station

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumont_d'Urville_Station

[fresh quiver]

or one of the other 2?
Casey or Dome Concordia?

but yes. I like your thought process about this one

In Marc h2009, the Australian ABC Forein Correspondent international affairs television program featured air operations at Casesy Stateion as part of a report titled "Antarctica - What Lies beneath"

"What lies beneath" could be compared to "behind the walls" IMO.

@timid solstice you already on the wikipage of the IGY? (International Geophysical Year")

Think I like some things about it.

The IGY encompassed fourteen Earth science disciplines: aurora, airglow, cosmic rays, geomagnetism, gravity, ionospheric physics, longitude and latitude determinations (precision mapping), meteorology, oceanography, nuclear radiation, glaciology, seismology, rockets and satellites, and solar activity.[3] The timing of the IGY was particularly suited for studying some of these phenomena, since it covered the peak of solar cycle 19.

[fresh quiver]

In Addition:

scientists representing the various disciplines of the IGY established the World Data Center system. The United States hosted World Data Center "A" and the Soviet Union hosted World Data Center "B". World Data Center "C" was subdivided among countries in Western Europe, Australia, and Japan.[19] NOAA hosted seven of the fifteen World Data Centers in the United States.

[fresh quiver]

you know there might more to come? 😅
Because you deleted and reposted it

[surreal sinew]

kinda looks like goo but ints wierd

[white patrol]

I did that so your addition #easter-eggs message can stay right next to your stuff here #easter-eggs message sam :3 better for visual clarity and continuity

[white patrol]

they are destruction texture I bielieve, weird

[surreal sinew]

huh thats odd (did it try to spin or smth fly in?

[solid jay]

Good line of investigation imo.

1, 2, 3 could represent a podium. 1st inhabitants (natives), 2nd discover (Vikings), 3rd colonize (Columbus)?

[crisp eagle]

James Cook’s Third Voyage

• The ostensible purpose of the voyage was to return Omai, a young man from Raiatea, to his homeland, but the British Admiralty used this as a cover for their plan to send Cook on a voyage to find the Northwest Passage, should it exist.

Omai (Mai)

• Fleeing to Tahiti, Ma'i was wounded in the encounter with the Dolphin in 1767.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai_(Ra'iatean_man)

probably nothing, but just in case.

“The Dolphin” is the HMS Dolphin. I found it mentioned once before by Rockhound, but I don’t think it led us anywhere

[dull marsh]

I still don't understand what was the point of level3activation, so far it feels like it took us on a small detour but it had basically nothing to do with the current stuff

Which sounds very wrong as we've had the Level 3 nama image before that even, and it was somewhat relevant

[chrome girder]

"Fe Fi Fo Fum" is the main line from the English folktale "Jack and the Beanstalk." It's usually spoken by a giant, and it depicts his urge to catch and eat a human. The phrase has no particular meaning, but it creates a dangerous and ominous atmosphere.

[worn rivet]

Ai

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[dull marsh]

That's correct, so far as main lead we have the C64 Jack and the Beanstalk clue, but we don't know how it relates to the roses

[rugged breach]

I see it as a tutorial for the password format mostly. Combination of 3 things adding up to 19 letters

[chrome girder]

I was just looking for the meaning

[dull marsh]

as in, we would need to apply the same logic to the following passwords?

[rugged breach]

The individual parts of it could be useful as well

**S lies ** is pretty straightforward as far as the hunt goes, so is asconce since "look with suspicion/doubt" is all we've been doing

Cetacea's the one that's been bugging me as the odd one out. You can make the ceteacea=dolphin=Apollo=aegean/calydon connection, but to what end

[chrome girder]

Has anyone tried using a microphone at the range?

[dull marsh]

what do you mean?

[rugged breach]

I think it's likely, yeah

[dull marsh]

I mean S LIES has a lore meaning, and relates to Elvis, but appart from that within the hunt I don't feel like we've cracked it

[rugged breach]

Been spamming the password thread with all possible combinations of 3s lol

[dull marsh]

You can check out #egg-hunt-onboarding , there are some infos on the wiki which is a good starting point, and #1203859365610922036 is where you'll find most stuff about that EE

[chrome girder]

I don't have access to messages in that thread.

[rugged breach]

There's that, also there's sofia/ospuze, the literal interpretation of "don't use S/replace S (with 5?), and god knows what else.

[dull marsh]

Hmm, yeah you need to interact for a little bit to level up and have access to that

oh well now you do 😄

[rugged breach]

I'd hazard a guess and say it relates to the whole "seek the truth beyond the walls" thread. We're getting to the point in the hunt where it ties in with the overall "story" I believe, with rob mentioning the "cns phase" after we solved the pressumably dissun phase

[dull marsh]

well yeah the Sofia/OSPUZE thing is the lore meaning I'm talking about hehe

but beyond that not much solid interpretation

[rugged breach]

Story wise we know egpyt/the pyramids tie into the endgame in some way as well, from the multico file coordinates. I feel like that may be a step or two ahead of where we are though, I just keep it as a landmark in the horizon to be aware of

[dull marsh]

Yeah the 3 pyramids, 3 dawns, so many triads

similarly so far it feels like NYC and Central Park and the Robber Barons are a dead end... which it probably isn't

[rugged breach]

Gonna be kicking ourselves when we figure out how everything connects

[dull marsh]

yup 😄

[snow walrus]

Remember 0v0 and owl how simple it was

[sharp flame]

I really really really really hope so

[dull marsh]

eeeeh, not complex but not simple either imo

[snow walrus]

simple when you think of how we dig so much

[lone wave]

Funny how you mention triads, knowing this season is about china

This Finals lore has some kind of mafia theme too, happening in the background

[shy oracle]

don't walk through an empty alleyway at night

[lone wave]

With a cashbox in your hands

[shy oracle]

Or ospuze is gonna appear with two drinks in hand and force you to drink their Pro Juice! Who needs water when it's filled to the brim with energy?!

[shy oracle]

or two..

[crisp eagle]

I randomly thought about how Christopher Columbus saw manatees and thought they were mermaids, and how he's usually credited here as "the guy who discovered america." Thought that would tie in with looking at something asconce, but remembered that manatees aren't cetaceans

[dull marsh]

So close, yes so far 😭

[crisp eagle]

I also wonder if the robber barrons thing was more so lore. from what I remember whenever Rocko got eyes, he was kinda talking about it lore-wise. I could be trippin' though. I didn't look back at it because I'm highly unprofessional and shoot from the hip

[white patrol]

If we go to legacy battle pass
every single season after S3 (the restart) will have Vesica piscis effect after you click on it
S1, S2 and S3 don't have those effects

[oak mason]

Guys does anyone have alpha/cb1/cb2/obt client ?

[past karma]

SYS monitors teased by Rob were never solved, right? I hope they weren’t!

A small discovery I made last night after spending some time writing a basic algorithmic and deterministic CV script (takes video as input and outputs a heatmap of pixel changes): the results didn’t show any letters or geometric shapes, but you can clearly see pronounced horizontal borders of zone separations. There’s a lot of noise, but I think that’s just me setting threshold parameter too low. The last image shows the initial script version output, which didn’t account for periodic randomization and used like 60 raw frames as input, but even there the "rectangles" of activity zones can be seen

Pretty cool, but unfortunately it doesn’t give us any answers :(

Also, I don’t think it’s possible to detect vertical zones of separation without either:
a. checking and mapping them by hand from observing the frames
b. using an ML algorithm to detect where symbols are cut off or misaligned (vertically) <--- I don't think this part is easy to do with ML algos because the symbols are too varied and different from each other! And I can't use rectangle pattern structure as an indicator because afaik the patterns are randomized enough to align perfectly in some instances of the screens

While scrolling through the SYS thread yesterday discovered this find:

I think monitors use same symbolic table, broken into chunks. So I'm not sure if maybe that was the "solution" for the monitors - they were hinting at a specific character set?

Bonus: before going the CV route I've played around frames in an image editor, and accidentally got jumpscared by soul-sand looking texture of pain and agony after overlaying the frames... Maybe they represent us (EE hunters) after >2 years of unsolved roses :)

[snow walrus]

OYE 👁

[fresh quiver]

From which page is it?

[unkempt dune]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ø

[dull marsh]

No, and we don't use that kind of stuff for EEs anyway

[hard current]

I wishhhh we had a tiny bit more direction on this “next CNS phase”

Do we need to look at the old images?

[gloomy anvil]

I don't think the CNS phase has started yet, we are still on Dissun.

[past karma]

An interesting effect happened to me in a live match - when a burning orange barrel I threw hit the floor (it happened inside one of skyway stadium's buildings) and bounced off, it left a sizeable stain of black soot/ash. Not on explosion, but just when it hit the ground.

I was unable to replicate this effect in PR, so I'm not sure if it's common or some conditions were fulfilled

Could be somehow connected with orange barrels and roses in the pr? "Fertilize" the floor with barrels stains, then do something specific within the area... don't really know if it can lead anywhere

[low escarp]

so it hit the floor and kept rolling after and before it even exploded it left that black soot?

[past karma]

Correct!

It left the black soot stain once, when it hit the floor where I threw it and the barrel bounced off and continued to roll forwards before exploding. But it wasn't a trail

[ornate plover]

Y'all found anything yet?

GTA VI will be out soon and y'all still working out if Jack and the Beanstalk can be found in the practice range

This section of the discord looks like the ramblings on many mad men (and women. And LGBTQ ia plus extra abcdefg gender)

[robust junco]

Eh

[inland hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-gif-3796244731295535628

[golden pollen]

w

[viscid patio]

w fr

[golden pollen]

real

[viscid patio]

i like eggs

[rigid adder]

This GIF makes me laugh every single time

[low escarp]

ash/soot

[surreal sinew]

the ominous red can showing up att the end lol

[low escarp]

well lets just say the ornage barrel was about to explode 💀

[surreal sinew]

[surreal sinew]

crazy

[winter mirage]

Does anyone know anything about some lights in Monaco turning on if you are about within 2 metres and turning off otherwise?
i run max settings and my team saw it as well

could be a odd graphic bug

[surreal sinew]

could you get a video of it ?

[low escarp]

render/view distance thing i think alot of lights do that

[winter mirage]

in our case it was a specific 1
other lights next to it didn't turn on if we got close

[winter mirage]

wasn't recording but i can tell you its on the top floor right above the stairs of the unique central building with the balcony and very long zipline next to the church
the 1 with the container on it

i'll send a pic when i can

[past karma]

Nice, thank you for testing! Didn't have time to do it myself yet... It's strange how it doesn't seem to work in PR, I wonder if it's something to do with a specific material the barrel hits, hmmmmm

[crisp eagle]

So far just this:

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[low escarp]

ash in the prange

works on the inside too

[solid jay]

Ash is used to grow stuff as a soil amendment.

It improves nutrient availability and enhances crop yields. Particularly for LEGUMES.

[past karma]

But not for the floor (right?) Maybe it will work on the ground in the park? I will check it today

[solid jay]

Particularly wood ash.

[low escarp]

potassium

[solid jay]

So what if we have to burn the forest then water it with the bot.

[low escarp]

maybe but i dont think we could push the bots from the start
the old bots i mean

[solid jay]

Yeah fair. So how can we get water to the forest?

[low escarp]

i was thinking but i dont know how
we need to make something wet by making it touch the bots then bring that thing to the roses or forest

[solid jay]

Also it doesnt mean it won't work now. Maybe something changed in the update?

[past karma]

Methinks less about burning, more about staining with ash from the barrels
Burning was attempted plenty of times before, but I dont think staining was 🤔

[solid jay]

Make the roses wet? Is there a bucket? lol

[low escarp]

its possible but idk if rob would silently change how to do a EE

[solid jay]

Burning without knowledge of the wet bots though

[past karma]

fair fair

[solid jay]

I mean if the update required some change to it then he would have to.

[low escarp]

fair they were gone for a bit because of a update

[solid jay]

but you are right, best to assume he didn't have to

It would likely be a minor tweak to make sure the interaction/trigger was still there.

[past karma]

ahhh Im testing right now and I see what is happening. Only non-previously-burnung barrel leaves an ashy stain on the first hit, I dont know why I assumed/said it must be burning previously

A burning barrel does not leave the mark

[low escarp]

oh ye i didnt even notice that

putting the orange on the floor and then activating it by shooting, punching or throwing something at it also makes the ash

[solid jay]

will a tree catch fire after it's been broken down?

[past karma]

Tried to cover the rose in coins and ash, no effect

[solid jay]

@low escarp try bringing the tree over to the wet dummies?

[low escarp]

?

[solid jay]

Break the tree and push it over to the wet dummies? Or is there no collision once it falls?

[low escarp]

oh i thought u meant the stump
the lose tree thing breaks when i tried orange barrel

taht lose part catches fire but no collision

[solid jay]

Hmm okay. I'm trying to think about how to get the water to the forest area still. I'll let you know if I come up with anything.

[past karma]

By the way, it looks like ash stays indefinitely. All stains stayed for the whole PR range duration (but I think that works for all explosion effects, like red canisters, rpg, etc.)

[solid jay]

I've been doing a lot of reading about BBS this morning. Apparently 1994 is when they started to rapidly decline in use. And AmiExpress also known as /X - by Synthetic Technologies was popular on the Amiga.

[surreal sinew]

Just thought swear words are sometimes referred to as colorful words

[surreal sinew]

but isisnt there dummys already in the forest

[narrow oriole]

Btw you can move the blue dummies around

Probably known but imma bring it up just in case

[surreal sinew]

if your refering this for the practise range roses moving them now is not usefull since you couldnt allways move them around

but thanks for trying

[dawn kindle]

The trophy case in the practice range entry is destructible

I saw some items hidden in the coins and whatnot

[solid jay]

Can you post video of this to confirm?

[harsh nebula]

I can vouch they are not lying, also i noticed a sort of scarab in the pile of gold in that trophy case

[sly latch]

idk how you can destroy it but damn i hate how the thing to change arsenal in the entry of testing range is not correctly placed

[past karma]

I don't think these are hidden! afaik those are just misc seasons-related props, arent they?

[dawn kindle]

Just small items tucked into the coin piles in the trophy case, I'm not sure how you destroy it but I did, maybe my friend destroyed it idk, we were playing as heavy's and messing around with snukes and afterwards I realized the trophy case was broken

I also noticed that the tv pet was on the far right of the trophy shelf

[snow walrus]

ASCII arts use this(?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIGlet

[snow walrus]

https://www.figlet.org/

Sub-Zero and Babyface Lame
are the ones I could spot

[pure loom]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but there are a couple of curious connections between Cædmon and Alice in Wonderland:

1. In Through the Looking-Glass, Carroll writes about "Anglo-Saxon attitudes" and mentions a "Messenger" with a stylized, unnatural way of moving. Scholars, such as Harry Morgan Ayres in Carroll's Alice, suggest that Carroll and his illustrator, John Tenniel, drew inspiration for these scenes from drawings of Anglo-Saxons found in the Cædmon Manuscript of the Junius Codex.

2. The name "Caedmon" is famously associated with a pioneering American spoken-word record label founded in 1952, Caedmon Records. This label produced a well-known 1958 vinyl recording of Alice in Wonderland (TC 1097), featuring Stanley Holloway as narrator and Joan Greenwood as Alice.

[raven dew]

mmmmm

[solid jay]

The first is news, the second has been mentioned but not the Alice in Wonderland part

[surreal sinew]

yeah they change every season

[crisp eagle]

Yar I mentioned the Alice in wonderland by Caedmon Records once in the chaos haha

[fresh quiver]

what I havent found yet, is that the songs atleast of TC 1097 is
A1, A2, A3
B1, B2, B3

A Space Oddysey

also from caedmon records

https://www.discogs.com/release/15463986-Arthur-C-Clarke-2001-a-space-odyssey-The-Final-11-Chapters?srsltid=AfmBOorEFNYY0ro3JazvNaRR7A1VaSKpMqNIQDS6s1e8XygYLZTFHhmK

[sly latch]

Yeah tried to nuke it just to see, most items seem to diseappear but seem like they just got throw out of bound as some item where clearly sticking out of the floor for me, as for the tv pet it didnt change

[fresh quiver]

@crisp eagle Do I dream or does the Astronaut in the image has a bit similarity with arc/tf. Dont know where the astronaut were

[crisp eagle]

It looks a little different from them, but still looks familiar to me

[fresh quiver]

100%

[crisp eagle]

But I did grow up around those books haha Arthur C. Clarke is one of “The Big Three” in science fiction. Hmm

Along with Asimov who wrote iRobot. We’ve talked about both books a bit here

Maybe there’s something from Heinlein hidden in clues

[fresh quiver]

And Heinlein with "Double Star" and lost legacy

The story was collected as "Lost Legacy" under Heinlein's own name in the book Assignment in Eternity

[gloomy anvil]

surprised I never noticed before that the CB2 Golden Nama sticker sort of has an X in its center

made by paper creases

[fallow agate]

I can check how it looks on weapons in game in a bit.

[crisp eagle]

And level 24

[oak mason]

this was always there ?

or it's just destruction cube ?

[white patrol]

yes those little cubes are near those destructable big cubes, but they don't have an actual physical form, just a floating texture

[surreal sinew]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Xwq9M-Y_xJM?si=x9yrrQJoBEFBnW6z
anyone else feel like this is a refrance to the lost legacy map

[severe creek]

is the second reel we've gotten in kyoto with a cashout station near water 🤔 lost legacy map is wet and suspected in kyoto

[surreal sinew]

Yeah and they want to run to the mountains

Maybe something is hidden near the mountain

[severe creek]

not saying to search oob, but that is technically an oob cashbox station, i'm guessing by the waterfall with the bamboo and mountains vs regular trees on the south of the map

[gloomy anvil]

It's a reference to this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wy_VwdY7cM0

[surreal sinew]

I found that too was about to send it just wanted to find the original source (Encounters at the End of the World (2007))

[surreal sinew]

huh the guy speaking is diffrent on this clip

nvm im just hearing things lol

(me brain no big large)

[austere rover]

I'm just now noticing this, why does this look like the Practice Range building? The box next to it almost looks like the storage container too, I can't make out jack of what it says though

[surreal sinew]

huh what is this on (goo gun?)

[hearty meteor]

its probably safety pictograms that are too low res

here is an example for a different chemical

[austere rover]

Oooh, okay. Yeah I was trying to see if there were some like that

[surreal sinew]

i see a flamable gas warning

[surreal sinew]

is this on the base skin of the goo gun

[austere rover]

That's the white one

[surreal sinew]

is it on all of them

[austere rover]

Yeah,, I can see about the pictograms now though at least! I was about to go dive into some rabbit hole lol

[hard current]

I still think the CNS phase is regarding the multico docs, especially the ones with suspected coordinates on them

hey I had a theory about all the CNS phase, coming to life stuff, and Dusty's reaction here is notable... why does Dusty care that it's impossible and hard to find? I wonder if, based on our progress, if something in the game changes when we figure.. something.. out? Dusty doesn't want us to find whatever this castle is "quickly" but why?

[dawn kindle]

Anyone notice the engraving on the License to Sleuth revolver skin? Could it have any meaning?

Also we may want to translate words that are on other weapon skins like the Retro Glitched Gun skins

[south jasper]

scotty and june detective agency?

[surreal sinew]

maybe since rob is not ready with the next phase and she wants to give rob some time???

[surreal sinew]

Anyone else think it looks like tentacles at 0:18 in this video https://youtube.com/shorts/1NJoXQhu8JA?si=UHGT_jdzfTdJ3Jk3

[white patrol]

was this frame from open beta known? seems like color-inverted las vegas eastwood casino?

[unkempt dune]

Yup. That trailer included at least two frame that you could stitch together to show the Lucky Star 357 portion of Eastwood

I think there were three in total. In the same trailer there should have been the fear and loathing nama tama as well

[white patrol]

ahh oki I see, thanks atsu :3

[south jasper]

does look at lot like it, maybe it could tie into sea water somehow

[surreal sinew]

That or the many mentions of tentacles and ospuze

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message

7 Parts

frame_000483
frame_000561
frame_000772
frame_000836
frame_000889
frame_001128```

[neat dew]

Is there any easter egg in fangwai city ?

[hard forge]

no idea

[sly latch]

Not sure, maybe we could make a hunting session by at some point so we can more easily search for easter egg in private match

[hard forge]

#1217498821563514951

[sly latch]

Ho yeah

[cold heart]

@crisp eagle you just reminded me of this forever and ever ago....

never clicked the box said "GO GREEN"

April 2024

[crisp eagle]

Wow! I missed this. I’m super duper sus now

[fresh quiver]

I think I noticed the "go green"....
But havent thought of anything that it could be connected. Just a company name...

[surreal sinew]

You guys want me to stop by the store on my way home and see if I can find those beans

Im on the train and I get of nexto ica

[surreal sinew]

Should I

[crisp eagle]

I wouldn’t think the brand itself is important. If it is a nod, it’s probably something like what we’re discussing: just the word green. Buuuuttttt I have about a .00001% success rate at being right about stuff

[snow walrus]

Green beans are classified by growth habit into two major groups, "bush" (or "dwarf") beans and "pole" (or "climbing") beans

[surreal sinew]

Well I’m thinking since parts of the box you can’t see so maybe there’s something else

[surreal sinew]

Il take a look if they even have it lol

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trellis_(architecture)

[surreal sinew]

Plus i can be a fattas and buy smth sweet XD

Well no beans

So many others but not that kind

[snow walrus]

there is a rose garden dedicated to Grace Kelly in Monaco
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontvieille_Park_and_Princess_Grace_Rose_Garden

[snow walrus]

description

[gloomy anvil]

Just keep in mind Rob is on his long vacation, assuming those weren't named beforehand.

[crisp eagle]

Yea and with it being a twitch drop, that description could only be meaning literally you just watched twitch. Nothin cryptic. But I_want_to

[severe creek]

there was this review that was suspected to be rob's account for that park too, talks about 10,000 roses

#1394850241295024159 message

[molten minnow]

Anyone managed to make out what scotty and june are talking about on sys horizon?

[white patrol]

Oceanographic Museum of Monaco have this sculpture by a Chinese artist, look interesting

Through this sculpture, the artist wanted to make the public think about the maritime catastrophes caused by man and the critical state of our oceans.
https://musee.oceano.org/en/exhibitions/homage-to-huang-yong-ping/

[south jasper]

what specifically?

[south jasper]

black beans are “climbing” beans if that relates to jack and the beanstalk at all

[shy oracle]

that's funny you put this here. i was looking at the patch notes and when i saw green i thought hmm, all the twitch drop colors have been CRTV color bars or related to cns's color scheme

[tough cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1qqpzh0/guys_i_found_an_easter_egg/

[white patrol]

iirc not long ago someone posted a screenshot of one of Kyoto's buildings that looks a lot overgrown than previous seasons
now we have serious sprouts set few patches later, (with banboo stickers) I wonder if there's connection here

[unkempt dune]

I'm assuming you're referring to this

[white patrol]

yes yes, thanks atsu!!

[surreal sinew]

yeah when me and wolfy shadow and Wierdguy found that house we where very confused why it was so overgrown turns out that it had been updated that patch

[molten minnow]

Upon death if you go to the huge glitched ozpuse ad you can hear scotty and june talking in the background

[agile wren]

wdym

[molten minnow]

i freecamed the ozpuse ads and i heard scorrty and june talk

[agile wren]

huh

[fresh quiver]

There is our EU again kind of

[unkempt dune]

eee could be for 3
u could be for 21
all together that'd be 321

[fresh quiver]

and that might be towards the cns part.

my mind is a bit blown rn about it 😂

Both are good ones.
And chain together without problems

[unkempt dune]

G6 = EU = 321
would definitely be an interesting chain

[fresh quiver]

definitely

[alpine junco]

I did a long time ago and one part of it is that they commentating about The Big Splash and some other team

[fresh quiver]

you realized that was your messages I forwarded again? 😄
you called that when cns appeared on discord

[alpine junco]

[white patrol]

In game vs Showcase video

CNS is coming back

[odd sequoia]

Great catch!

[hard current]

I’m pretty sure the eeeu are the missing vowels in SKTHTRTH

Could be a hint that a similar clue exists elsewhere

[solid jay]

Or that the CNS clues pertain to the MW.AREA2 passwords? Since those are the ones on the EU part of the page.

[surreal sinew]

uh this happened to the stuff after i flung them all over the place with thermal bore they break with one shot after the thing where things get reset and after i damage them again their position updates

[errant wind]

Does anyone have a list of all the available charm codes as of January 2026?

[crisp eagle]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1441228962800996474

[sharp flame]

hey EE hunters

after my recent effort to connect the previous pictures, I think I missed out on THIS most recent one

Rob's clues are probably going to prove the most helpful in this one, as it's the latest one released

and I don't even think it's on (one half) of the Level 3 Miro...

these numbers for example, have we solved?

[crisp eagle]

#1337427318716629002 message

if ⁨223678⁩ are the correct numbers, I just wonder what the order is, and what the dang heck it means

[sharp flame]

probably has been cleared up by then, but the chunk that Atsu was unsure about actually belongs to the 8!

the 6 and 9 are pixel perfect for each other btw

so it could be either

223678 or 223789

[crisp eagle]

it seems like all the other numbers have to be flipped except the "6" so I could see it being 9 to fit the flipping theme haha

[alpine junco]

what if it's not the numbers but the amount of parts per number 322322

[sharp flame]

also thought of that, yeah

5 twos, 2 threes, 2 sixes, 2 sevens, 3 eights

22222336677888

or 22222337788899, EQUALLY LIKELY

[unkempt dune]

I'm still under the impression that the numbers go along with the waveform from the same image. The synthesized audio from the waveform is very distorted, but it definitely seems to be saying some numbers in my opinion:

the fact that the first half sounds like "263", which are numbers in that sequence seems like a very interesting coincidence

The second portion sounds like either "782" or 872"... which I'm leaning towards the first

[solid jay]

Could this be a t9 cipher?

[unkempt dune]

"263 and 782"

[gloomy anvil]

I still can't unhear what I think it is

I'm pretty confident in what I think but I appreciate that it's easy to hear basically anything in there

[unkempt dune]

What do you think it is?

[gloomy anvil]

|| 363 is 417 ||

after I'd become somewhat confident in that, I also found that NGC ||363|| ||is|| ||417|| million light-years away

which I thought was interesting

[harsh nebula]

😳😳

[silk wolf]

I wish I was smart enough to know what y’all are talking about

[south jasper]

im messing with the audio and i hear 781 and iirc there was a 1 hidden in that image away from the rest of the jumbled numbers

no matter how i adjust it, it ends up ending in an "n" sound

[slow glacier]

So I've been gone for a while because my phone broke and i haven't had my discord But i'm back and I have a lot of things

[south jasper]

lets see it

[slow glacier]

Sorry it took me some time but let's go over some of the stuff we know about the pr the 5 roses the dummies and the game itself the finals and quickcash along with Plausible answer to a map puzzle of which I'm not yet sure how to test

So to start with the pr range the image when loading into it is not congruent with the map haveing a button In front of the house by the flower bed of which the flowers are "healthy" or at least brighter which could have something to do with the Gardening puzzle in the pr and other maps

The dummies in the pr however, I think are extremely important
We already know there's more to it then we've discovered yet
But I'd like to point out that there are 3 dummies in rotation, with 3 more standing near by along with the range of dummies there are two dummies that move side to side now hear me out it might sound weird but I think the pr is the inside of a clock know trust me I felt the same way but after I went over it there is a lot of compelling evidence

[slow glacier]

If we look at the game itself is saying it the logo is an arrow the name implies a count down the main mode is all about time qc for instance you put the valt in it fills up until it's full and if we look at what the oldest why's time has ever been measured there's the water thief which was the method of telling time by the filing of a vessel with water from another, now obviously that's not the only reason but there's to many connections the hint about how the "secret" map has been rotating since the beginning the fact that the pr dummies haven't changed even with the update the dummies being the movements of the clock Matches the mechanics of clock's like the Franklin's three wheel down to the shooting range dummies maching the pendulums

[slow glacier]

So we already know the connection to Alice's adventures in wonderland and Jack and the beanstalk,

1.in alice the roses are painted by cards 7,5,2 and the original artwork shows 6 roses on the bush,
2. it's said that it's always 6:00 in wonderland because that's tea time and the madhatter murdered/offended time and he stopped for him, because in wonderland time is a "him not an it" which is interesting because the hatters watch only tells the day of the month not the "time".

3. in through the looking glass, in the red qweens race it's stated in this quote after finding that there undr the same tree after run for awhile
   "Well, in our country," said Alice, still panting a little, "you'd generally get to somewhere else—if you run very fast for a long time, as we've been doing."
   "A slow sort of country!" said the queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!.

Now there's also alot in the chapter about painting the roses that involve a couple different number Sequences which could be something important but I haven't been able to compile everything together yet because of personal life stuff but there's enough evidence based on the clues and puzzles already solved, along with the games themes like the jumping into each game like Alice down the rabbit hole and the mirror. the vr would as a wonderland the logic is backwards as well as Jack and the giants and the game of stealing cash/"time" being similar to Jack stealing bags of gold from the giants after selling his family cow (moola xd) for magic beans Inevitably stealing the golden egg laying hen and a singing harp finally before the stalk is cut down

[slow glacier]

I'd also like to add that in adaptations of Jack like some of the stage play the giants clock in his kitchen is used to hide by jack while stealing and running from the giant

[surreal sinew]

im hearing 263 and 792

has anyone looked into what the map on the leek of the land charm is since its the only one of the 3 leek charms that are not expired (which would tie into it not being limited time so others can check it)

(by expired i mean the code to redeem it i doubble checked and sneak leek and leek denied say code has expired while leek of the land says code already redeemed)

[white patrol]

Some random thoughts

Rewatching old trailers and I find somethings might be interesting
in S1 trailer last few seconds where they show the stylized "can (scene1) you (scene2) reach.." phrase, the last 2 cut scenes are:

1. Cashout station at center stage
2. Contestant seemingly standing right on top of the location center stage

I don't know if this is something we can read into
(did rob do something like stand on center stage and face each casino? i don't remember)

speaking of direction the last scene is contestant facing the sun (can it points to "sunny side up"? idk :3)

I assume this was found right? where did this lead to?

[gloomy anvil]

That's Frank the pug, he's in most trailers

[white patrol]

I thought it was a Golden snub-nosed monkey 😭 my god it was frank?!? im so silly

thanks tho raid :3

[gloomy anvil]

lol np

[sharp flame]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1257779008536576011

might be time to look at this again.
any EE hunters remember this?

Rob confirmed a bunch of stuff for Level 3! All thanks to @dull marsh

however, only small parts of the theory have been confirmed, so I'll lay them out here
....

Black Tortoise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tortoise

ANIARA / Harry Martinson

2018 Swedish-Danish science fiction film, based on the 1956 Swedish epic poem of the same name by Harry Martinson..
Movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniara_(film)
Poem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniara

DOLPHINS

3 dolphins swimming in circle is part of the flag of Anguilla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Anguilla

TRINITY

"Trinity will be mentioned a few times."

The FitzGerald coat of arms

"is a big ❌ like Rob posted multiple times, and they led to knighthoods which are strongly linked to swords"

RABBITS FOOT

Rabbitfoot clover (Trifolium arvense) can link to White Rabbit. Rabbit foot is also related to luck.

TRISTAN AND ISEULT + HARP OF IRELAND

The idea of a harp being the arms of Ireland may have originated as a reference to a fictional character, le roi d'irelande, in the courtly legend cycle of Tristan (linked to Tristan and Iseult)

FEE FI FO FUM + GOLDEN GOOSE

"First Jack steals the goose that layed golden eggs from the giant."

Saint Patrick's Saltire

a red saltire (X-shaped cross) on a white field. Saint Patrick's Flag is a flag composed of Saint Patrick's Saltire.

TRISKELION

Triskelion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion

LEWIS CARROLL AND/OR ANDREW LANG

Lewis Carroll: Wrote Alice in Wonderlands (White Rabbit) but also The Harp of a Thousand Strings
Andrew Lang: Wrote maaaaaaaaany fairy tales and could be strongly tied to all of that, not sure

A "JACK" HOLDING AN AXE

Also to add to the Black Knight Jack of Clubs, it's a Jack holding an axe, and in Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack ends up cutting the whole thing with an axe, leading to the downfall of the giant

-- ENDS HERE --

EVERY SINGLE ONE of these is 100% confirmed to be in the hunt in some capacity

[south jasper]

I don’t think it’s possible to see without a second person

[gloomy anvil]

#easter-eggs message

[desert blade]

How i feel looking in the Easter egg channel not knowing what any of this shit means

[shy oracle]

any and all contribution helps steer people in different directions to solve puzzles. Even if it isn't the solution, ruling out possibilities certainly help out going down time-cost research 🙂

[earnest latch]

Yooooooooooo

[surreal sinew]

hello welcome to tfee where we go crazy while rob give us cryptic awnsers

[desert blade]

bro rn:

[crisp eagle]

Did some more thinking about Fish’s Pangea ideas and reading on England’s history since we have multiple clues pointing to Caedmon. People would have been crossing over a land ridge to England. And I found this from the “History of England” Wiki:

The earliest evidence for early modern humans in Northwestern Europe, a jawbone discovered in Devon at Kents Cavern in 1927

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_England

could just be losing my mind completely, but there’s another Devon Crossing from L1

[hard current]

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1JSitnSqeidY81nIOYzSJEeoFUa3_zc1T

have we investigated any of the new Key arts?

[robust junco]

Anyone have any thoughts on this????

[kindred storm]

does anyone know if anyone has tried to bring together the two hidden dummies (the one in the container by the roses and the one in the wall of the pr house) using a mix of a charge and slam heavy and a demat, jump pad medium to move them to eachother?
you could negate the damage with healing barrels cause it should heal hostiles it would just take a while

[sharp flame]

wait.. have we?!

[robust junco]

Eh

We should investigate his clock theory

[sharp flame]

Rob's CNS tag = S7 Keyart?

[hard current]

We should check out the key arts

[fading vigil]

Either they are empty to any clues or some true magic (not just sliding everything in gimp randomly) should be applied.
I don’t remember was anything found in them ever.. but I can be wrong

[crisp eagle]

Maybe S2? Although I doubt that. I assume people have already looked, and it might be weird putting in L3 clues that early

But we do have Vegas with a password for L3 since launch. So maybe…

[wraith karma]

I remember seeing some movie where one of the major characters wore a mask with that a glowing triskelion on it. The guy put like a huge bounty on some guy who committed crimes or something and like announced it live.

There’s a very slim chance that there could be a reference to that movie but idk

[alpine junco]

found nothing so far

[white patrol]

thought of it long time ago but didn't make out anything concrete so I personally gave up the clock idea
as for AiW, I don't see that main hunt clue have anything to do with Rose EE, there's no clue indicate the connection

[robust junco]

Whats AiW

Oh Alice in wonderland

Nvm lol

[snow walrus]

another hint from rob pointing dissun back in summer '24

along with 01:23

I was rewatching the Chernobyl miniseries and noticed that the event took in

[inland hemlock]

fun fact, it happened at 1:23:45 AM (to 01:23:58 AM), at least this is what the media stated and is not precise, AZ-5 was pressed roughly at 01:23:38/39 or 40 according to multiple logs and the reactor exploded a few seconds later

[fallen jasper]

Yeah most of the North Sea used to be a landmass called Doggerland. It is unfortunate as anyone living there would've been living on the rivers leading from the highlands (Mainland Europe & the British Highlands) so all of the archaeological evidence is under an ocean now.

[snow walrus]

head up and move on

[stiff tree]

on sys@horizon in the history building if you destroy the orange lines it reveals these pink lines flashing a cipher/string of some sort. screenshots aren't the best so i highly encourage you to check it out. they're backwards

i dont have image perms so @errant shadow is uploading them
smh need to yap

[stiff tree]

ty!

[errant shadow]

Np

[surreal sinew]

huh intresting

[swift mulch]

Afaik this was not found before

👏

[stiff tree]

💪 😃 💪

he has two right arms because discord has two right arms ignore his disability

i have a hunch it might relate to the sys$horizon secret room which i can confirm through multiple multiple multiple deaths that its probably not out of bounds

[snow walrus]

They are there since s2. let me check if i can find the thread or related work

[swift mulch]

Oh thanks! I knew the orange line was investigated, never knew this was found

[stiff tree]

[snow walrus]

There is nothing to be sad about, you made a good observation.

[stiff tree]

ty!

[snow walrus]

People often come here and share their insights which mostly something already been found and sometimes something nobody noticed. It's totally normal and a good thing

[odd sequoia]

This is really interesting! Is this on Horizon?

[stiff tree]

yeah under the orange lines you need to break em

[snow walrus]

It's about ASCII table

[odd sequoia]

Orange lines? 😅

[stiff tree]

history building should find orange lines decorating structure interior

[odd sequoia]

I’ll have to take a look. Has anything ever come of it?

[snow walrus]

I don't remember if we came up with a solution but maybe @unborn pilot remembers since he worked on it afaik

[odd sequoia]

Noted, thank you!

[snow walrus]

One thing for sure is it belongs to cns lore

[dull marsh]

afaik we never solved any meaning

[alpine junco]

#1217764142572765245 message

with chart

[solid jay]

Are we able to plot these on a graph? There are symbols but the x/y axis is obviously intentional. It might point to coordinates within the map?

[unborn pilot]

Feel free to double check if anything changed.

Missing ones might be a clue

if I remember it’s a combination of 3 different tables and something led to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_2047

[solid jay]

This seems like it would be relevant to Amiga ASCII art.

[odd sequoia]

Will do, thank you so much!

[snow walrus]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amiga_Charset_16x16.png

DEL key is a printable char in Amiga

7F

https://blog.glyphdrawing.club/the-origins-of-del-0x7f-and-its-legacy-in-amiga-ascii-art/

[solid jay]

but it should be blank or null right?

[snow walrus]

In ASCII it is blank

this one is what we can use on windows with alt key (I love using these btw pretty handy)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437

[solid jay]

alt text also accessible by pressing WIN + . just fyi lol

[solid jay]

Was just reading about this also. I was looking into PETSCII stuff a while back when we got the gif that was a clue for 3HM

[austere rover]

Wait.. some of those symbols are used in Nozomi/Citadel, such as SH, EX, EQ, and a couple others. Am I seeing that right? I know we already technically know what they mean, but-

[cold depot]

Hello EE-Hunters!
I've been lurking and pondering along with parts of this Hunt for the last year, and I have something I want to investigate further.
I'm too new to discord to post in the EE LFG channel yet, but i'm looking for some help on SYS$Horizon to better document the glyphs/glitches/QR-code-looking things hidden in some of the pixelated walls throughout the buildings that appear when you dematerialize the wall.
I have seen only a few post about these items, but didn't see any documentation on them on the Main Miro board, and afaik, nobody else has tried looking to hard into these.
My theory is that they are a color cipher and play some part in either the Big Whoop EE or at least the SYS$Horizon secret room EE.

Is there someone I can DM a screenshot of what i am talking about and have them post it?

[white patrol]

you can DM me and I will help you forward it!

[solid jay]

Colour could check out we've had clues that have pointed at colour spectrum.

[cold depot]

yes, this is definitely a color clue on multiple levels, because the "Glyphs" appear as different colors within the different buildings on SYS too, corresponding to the overall building/district color that they are found in. Looking for someone to help me document them for the group!

[solid jay]

I'd love to help, but can't get on the game right now.

[severe creek]

iirc, we found the exact same grid/symbols in nozomi/citadel. i cant find the original post, put they were inside of a glitched pillar in either the bath house or the cybercafe (i think it was the bath house tho)

[austere rover]

Interesting....
So, are there any examples of this appearing in levels in games on the Amiga?

[cold depot]

Thank you for posting this for me! I think this part of the glyph is the keyword for the cipher on the other part of the glyph

[cold depot]

and this is the cipher itself that needs to be decoded. Im not advanced enough with video or photo editing, but if you stich together the different still frames of this part, they reveal an image with different shades of the keyword color arranged in a big grid. My theory is that if we can stich the image together, we then use the "barcode"-like part of the clue to decipher the image in some way. the "barcode" part has ~36 lines to it of different intensities, with some repeating, so my guess is that it is a key-phrase, probably already given to us in the CNS lore or media somewhere.

[wicked birch]

Hey everyone! Is that have already been seen? https://youtu.be/8Qp4Vm3diAc?t=5m9s

[gloomy anvil]

Strange, but also not dissimilar to a lighting bug that comes up every now and then

[wicked birch]

I never saw what a lightning bug looks like, thanks for the answer!

[surreal sinew]

We love to see this for me this is news since I tools very large brake from ee hunting (basically didint do or contribute stuff back then mainly read since I had insano levels of social anxiety 😅) so this is very cool to see thanks for bringing this up

[white patrol]

did we have similar lighting bug with sound effects?

[surreal sinew]

Ayo probably what raid said but this got me laughing out loud in the school hallway lol

[velvet narwhal]

the sound effect makes me feel like it's not just a lighting bug.

[white patrol]

maybe a bugged EE

it's too low quality to be an actual EE I think

[unkempt dune]

I think that's just edited in

[wicked birch]

It was close to that wall out of boundary with those strange marks, that's why it caught my attention as an EE

[hard current]

@wicked birch if you’re interested, I believe skyway has a few glitch spots located on there, and we knows it’s part of an EE but haven’t made any progress with them!

I can send you the link for the interactive map someone made a while back on github

[alpine junco]

ah the one near the bust, it's still there

[wicked birch]

Thx but I don't have time for EE hunting anymore...

[tiny badge]

wdym

[unborn pilot]

I looked into that a long time ago and found a few things. #1243224234675802135 message

Coolest thing is the frames intertwine and make a wave

[formal birch]

curious if anyone has seen that red dot squared box thing in sys horizon

[surreal sinew]

yeah we dont know what to do with it tho

[formal birch]

ah gotcha thanks, also new orange light in one of the maps? idk if that has been mentioned before

[cold depot]

Yes! In the video you clipped, you did exactly what I’m looking to do with overlaying the frames to fill out the image. Sure, the wave aspect is interesting, but the image revealed is literally a cipher that is begging to be solved!!!

Can you tell me how you made that so I can do the same with some of my own footage? (The one you linked is good, but a bit overexposed so you lose some of the shading differences, and had of the cipher is covered up the with “barcode” part.)

[unborn pilot]

I clipped it normally. Started going frame by frame. That’s when I noticed every other image changes how long it appears. And after a full cycle it loops.

When combined nothing overlapped if I recall. So it does appear to create a full image

I used After Effects but that’s just cause I’m used to it

[unborn pilot]

If you can figure out how it’s a cipher awesome. I came to the conclusion that it’s a low res image of something potentially from space. There was something interesting about the resolution of that image. I can’t remember what now though.

Also a bunch of sounds happen while you’re next to that thing and if you look at them on the spectrogram they also look like waves

Man, I probably spent days on all that stuff, images sound reversing mirroring and trying to solve anything but no damn luck.

[cold depot]

Yes. I for sure think it’s a cipher of some kind, most likely a simple replacement cipher. The image that is revealed is the encrypted/encoded message, the “barcode” static part is the Key, and the key probably lines up with a key phase or saying that converts the colors to text or numbers

[unborn pilot]

Keep me posted. I’m excited to hear if you figure anything out.

[cold depot]

There are 36 lines to the "barcode" part, so the keyphrase is likely the same length. It's hard to tell exactly, but i think some of the lines are the same color, meaning they are likely the same letter/figure in different parts.

Has CNS dropped any phrases that are 36 characters long? If anyone thinks of anything that would fit, send it my way!

[fading vigil]

Like sin and cos, but graphic breaks…

[cold depot]

This is missing the third Latin phase if it’s supposed to be emulating the Julius Caesar saying “Veni. Vidi. Vici.”

Veni. Vola. Iudica.

[lethal grail]

W

[crisp eagle]

It also combines Latin and Italian

[cold depot]

Has anyone pieced together that the "3 Horizons" clues are probably referring to the different phases of twilight?

I was looking at the redacted MultiCo document and it mentions "Civil", "Nautical", and "Astronomical" which are the three phases of twilight, with each phase beginning when the sun is a certain # of degree's below the horizon. Civil = 0-6 degrees, Nautical = 6-12, and Astronomical = 12-18

[snow walrus]

yes.
1 night 3 dawns see the signs

[snow walrus]

this is suspicious

[surreal sinew]

Very sussy

[hard forge]

it's vaiiya that is what we know

[severe creek]

what do they mean by "(check name)" in the update notes?

[alpine junco]

wasnt there an ee last cash ball event?

[molten bridge]

isnt it just the fact that it has a $ sign for the S?

but sure, i wouldnt be surprised if they hit us with something

what im thinking maybe is that you need to score in a specific way, with a specific number of passes?

or just see if its destructible, or try jumppads to see if something is behind that "door"

[gloomy anvil]

They needed to check the arena name before publishing the patch notes, and forgot to remove the note

[severe creek]

i thought maybe that was it, just wanted to be sure ty!

[austere rover]

Okay, I've seen this twice now, what's the reference???
(aliens try to steal the Doritos before this shot with the classic green tractor beam)