easter-eggs

[odd sequoia]

Quick note, the money one seems to be only 100 million as I have the money one and don’t have 250 million

[surreal sinew]

LOL thats why heavy got the higest win rate XD

[odd sequoia]

Also not sure what’s up with that either

[surreal sinew]

new easter ee lol the missing badges XD

[swift mulch]

Please go #1201288968562552863 if it’s not EE related

[odd sequoia]

My apologies, thank you!

[surreal sinew]

Sorry sir

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagonal_crystal_family#Trigonal_crystal_system

corundum is trigonal

and calcite CaCO3

[fading vigil]

Isn’t it a common league dispersion in games? But it can be useful idea

[burnt sun]

They do but for the longest time there hasnt been a single Medium with it, then it was about 4 worldwide

There should be more by now (this was during S6 iiirc)

NOT EE RELATED

[fresh quiver]

Sad that the first geocache was „perot“ and not also a perrott.

Would have been nice to have all 3 names with double T in the middle

If rob has not forgotten it AGAIN, I will have a new Season scroll text to transcribe Alter today 😄

[fresh quiver]

wait. Perot was a salesman for IBM? Absolutely a coincidence

[gloomy anvil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabry–Pérot_interferometer

don't know if this is actually anything it's just a familiar shape

[gloomy anvil]

lots of characters at the bottom of this tablet btw

[swift mulch]

NEW EASTER EGGS INCOMING

[dry belfry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bian_lian

[fading vigil]

You’ve not finished the old ones, young boy!

[swift mulch]

Let me just be happy about the idea of not being stuck forever. Just one evening is all i ask 😭

[severe creek]

free in a bundle with interesting flavor text

[obsidian tendon]

Tablets may react to certain areas on the map maybe?

[hard current]

New season surely means a new clue from Rob right? Right??

[fresh quiver]

what is this regarding to?

[fresh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-19576862

[white patrol]

the mask namatama put on

[fresh quiver]

thank you...
Things are just hard... without explanation from the people who send links

[white patrol]

no worries sam :3 but I personally wouldn't assume it's bianlian tho, there's no other mask to swap on

[white patrol]

probably there's language barrier but yeah I gotchu :3

[alpine junco]

How many days without a new #official-art

[fading vigil]

Too much 🙁

307 days without art

[fresh quiver]

PSA:

There will not be a transcription for the S9 credit scroll..
As the S9 credit scroll does not exist. 🥲 They forgot to update the scroll again

[odd sequoia]

Maybe the destruction was exposing something it shouldn’t have?

[severe creek]

sigh...I lose sleep over Kyoto

[odd sequoia]

You and me both

[alpine junco]

maybe the egg isnt on kyoto

[hard current]

Personally I don’t think we should hunt the maps anymore at this time

We have no clear direction, and tbh we’re kind of just running around with our heads cut

Older clues / diamond clues are the only things I think we can do with where we’re at

[onyx hollow]

I play a lot of CL (c:) & found that some of the structures on Kyoto would just burst apart sometimes from minor damage, sometimes from just one explosion to the roof, it didn’t feel very intended

[hard current]

What we know

2 Nama Tamas left

1 -> could be on Eastwood (Vegas) Sandstorm, but we’ve run through the masterplan markup spray a million times with no luck

2 -> maybe the Leek map is pointing to it? But we have no concrete evidence to support wha map that’s pointing to

At least 1 Big WR

-> no concrete evidence for the map, maybe fortune but it’s never been confirmed

Something hidden or some ee on Skyway

-> we know there’s probably something on skyway, but the spot on the image has been investigated a million times with no luck as well

I think I’m gonna stop hunting in the maps for now until I can find more info pointing to where these would be / what these things are, else we’re wasting time running around :/

[past karma]

THE FINALS
Task status
Target locked: Classified
[Communication network: Encrypted]
Status:Online
+
IHCP-TS-D344-001-001-DE/23/25/67
+
Threat level: Medium
Zone 2: Unidentifiable energy signals detected.
Distance: Approximately 120 meters
12:43:01
system ready status
Error records: 0
System Security Procedures: Passed
No errors detected

Looks like the text is identical, if I havent missed anything

Bar spectrograms appear similar as well, simply mirrored

Missing pixels!

[onyx hollow]

It might be the angle of the line but there are similar missing/blinking pixels to that in the loading screen logo

[past karma]

Actually weird, mine has only single pixel missing vs 4 on yours. Could it be resolution/quality settings?

F1
F2
F3
F4

<
Esc
C1 (?)
Power

Why C1 specifically

[past karma]

Frequencies remind me of this charm

[snow walrus]

AYO
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VK8Uvd9lQjo

you can see yourself like a mirror and if you get too close it shows that burrw like pattern

[severe creek]

which brings us back to MW... medium wave in medium frequency radio band

[snow walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_W8fRZ49Uo

[eternal violet]

red R in the finals newsletter email, color code #d21f3c

[snow walrus]

where is that

[past karma]

It was absolutely intentionally made
Although interestingly, mine displays the whole link in red

[snow walrus]

yea all red

[severe creek]

mine was also in just red, but highlighting it shows the slightest change to the "r" in the underscore

[past karma]

My screenshot shows that in the html it sets a specific span with color styling for r and only r

Nothing like that in the Season's 8 gift mail

[severe creek]

#d21f3c is the branded red for the finals

[past karma]

Was about to say, every red highlight uses this particular shade of red

[severe creek]

from the 2025 brand guide

[past karma]

I have no logical answer why r was articulated like that in the message
This kind of mistake doesnt just randomly happen from faulty mail auto-generation or a human error (I work in the field!)

[severe creek]

but still... why? just an R makes me think it's a sign from Rob but that could be hopefully wishing

[eternal violet]

well its not the first singular R we get as a clue for level 3

[snow walrus]

is it the same on different browser or mobile?

[past karma]

Shouldn't change, it's a mail embed

[fresh quiver]

maybe the image in the mail? just as a thought?
Rob just showing us "r" to look there more closely?

[snow walrus]

why it's just on your side tho

[severe creek]

if not that, calvin twitch drops look mutlico-coded

[past karma]

Oh, I mean the core html code shouldnt change. The displayed proprieties in fact can change (on my browser it was also all in red, it was blue on @eternal violet 's system) depending on a mail client (because some of them strip styling from incoming emails)

[fresh quiver]

havent got my mail yet, anyone able to extract the link of the image in the mail?

[past karma]

There's many images

[eternal violet]

ignore the blue, apparently i have a custom styles extention for hyperlinks, but that span tag should be there for everyone

kinda funny how the tag cut through my custom styles

[robust junco]

Can we search for more letters like that

?

[past karma]

https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/meips/ADKq_NapejIPAu_4ghm9d5BnU0oq7QECZSemysFTIdzz4ByWV9MHq-sLE4hOqiK0R-6NfWnDI-oRFNUI-u39CisrXaJeEHVp2OCb65XGMsTLdrXB9tjjsKmf2uIpybIF3GEWnIxCMU5kGhMLshwPtdfMobTDn0vMirrGdQTYVqaBFVdqrvHWxifJlg5GSKFXkgeEfjJWe5Zfy3d4aNfj=s0-d-e1-ft#

https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/meips/ADKq_Naz0hsRIR2bf-Wqr6OxRX0I-J7hBXNzmDepijWRIXbLjLxXb07HP4QXVHCRNzacEutdB6HTcuwDEje-8imERn1ZYCoyzJf-yHVkBOPDCt6NwH2M-GP8IEN934cCCaKmlikU97i8L2lrYYSJFZ1yibTeAe0gb4Q_baqG9nYot2XfPkhIS-8Vw8kLZgoESqWTzqD2pki0vPXRP-UP6tn3qNk=s0-d-e1-ft

https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/meips/ADKq_NYbMc9itSweBN5gEQS2xID4NQm6K8I8bWfuuBMY_iNqJt1z_tPzKZY_5JcRR3c-Bz6WxZrgZEeirLeY7wdpuID_wEOJVNsHNgoHRiin1tYMOgZH-TtPRJ8KxSCmMHjb8W8ScObkhJOgxhmgr4KmKClZ-zo_sc4obUZeLFPARjuuf6QlSJ8U40FacD8blHsISSTy33176UHvSx7oweJHyC1H=s0-d-e1-ft

https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/meips/ADKq_NaqpJlbRl6FdST-5DOi4G4XiAnq92N17L6healpXZGtoFKIufY1SMnFMtwX4-YYs0rLtfQjk6u06P7fVZFU-GKQI3UuHksHTPc81bHyDW_7gLLcMFkQfBz3hay3XgChDnd2djitKoKuoJRSR-ZObAZa4L0Z0m7vGMW2YjR63Rq66Ku4zp5x-IgjnO_RrQ8CATbBndKt0jEaoKkFmTnhIY96hg=s0-d-e1-ft

[robust junco]

Idk maybe r highlighted and some other letters

[past karma]

Don't see anything worth noting in those links
Maybe images hide something, but can't check rn

[robust junco]

How do I view the code for the email

[past karma]

Couldn't find anything in S3, S7 and S8 gift mails

[robust junco]

Even the code doesn't show?

[past karma]

F12 or RMB -> view page source

[past karma]

Nothing there

[robust junco]

On mobile? 💀

Dang

At school rn. Mobile my only shot 💀😂😭

🫃

[silk wolf]

Yall see how the rookie kept going back to the pre spawn area in the new trailer?

[neat dew]

Any easter eggs on the new map ?

[silk wolf]

I’ve yet to download it

[odd sequoia]

Yea I thought that was noteworthy. But it may also just be a way to try and inspire people to keep going and not give up.

[past karma]

Fangwai City

[silk wolf]

I’m just saying since someone said there’s something to be found while starting the game

[rugged breach]

#1336838311305810130 shortcut don't mnd me

[crisp eagle]

Small possible EE, but still a fun one. And please correct me if I’m wrong. But I believe 6 in Chinese sounds like their word for “smooth” and they use it for like prosperity or good luck. So in china things like 666 just means good luck and prosperity. I think they changed our usually contestant numbers to 66 for that reason for this season. Rhymes are fun

[past karma]

gasp
The sun is a RECTANGLE?

[robust junco]

Hmmm

[burnt sun]

was it just overlooked or is the shadow (/light) on the moon going the wrong side on purpose?

[pure loom]

that is the correct shadow for the Waxing Gibbous Moon

[burnt sun]

Thanks for clarification - I thought "thats moon seen from earth" and the light should move the other way around but then again I was unsure because I just dont know enough

[daring bluff]

hey guys haven't been here in a while. Has anyone else noticed the HUD is slightly different on different players' accounts now? it seems random and I can't find a correlation. thinking it could be an ee/lore thing?

[dull marsh]

imo it's either a bug or an accessibility feature that should be a setting

[cobalt zephyr]

if you have effects set to low it's broken

[pure loom]

oh, I've just seen this in game for the first time, and the shadow animation moves backwards!

[burnt sun]

But wait: A Waxing Gibbous Moon is when the moon is between a half-moon and a full moon, meaning more than half but not all of its face is lit by the sun, and the illuminated part is growing bigger (waxing) each night towards the full moon, appearing "humped" or bulging. It occurs after the First Quarter and before the Full Moon, with the light increasing on the right side in the Northern Hemisphere. The sticker however is showing the light coming from the left side

[burnt sun]

exactly!

[pure loom]

no, the sun is located to the right, which is why the left side is in shadow, but the animation moves in reverse to normal

[daring bluff]

that's def it!

[obsidian tendon]

anyone want to hop in new map? i cant type in the lfg

[onyx hollow]

Yeah!

[rugged breach]

Can't remember if it wasa eye'd or 'd ages ago but it's a confirmed something rob had his hands on

[severe creek]

I can join too if you wanna drop the room code

[burnt sun]

"Ages ago"? Its in the new BP - it was revealed at most at the playtest last week?

[rugged breach]

OH! Haven't had a chance to check it out yet, I thought it was the moon charm that does the same

Looks like it's a somewhat important clue if it's being reinforced like this

[onyx hollow]

AH yes, ours is done in 1 minute!

[burnt sun]

That's even more interesting

[burnt sun]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007_HD.gif

[dusk siren]

Garriott has quite the wikipedia page. Now that you mentioned kings and queens, I can't stop seeing them places.
Here is Garriott as "Lord British," fictional ruler of Britannia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_British

Coincidentally, was just glancing at the S1 legacy battle pass and noticed that the diamond-themed tier featured this charm, where the diamond is hexagon-shaped. 🤷

[azure flicker]

In the customization menu, the screen appears to have a Jump Pad icon on it rather than the Finals logo like the others do

[mellow mortar]

does someone know if the digits on the bottom on the green skin of the Multi-device work for something? XJD-SANF9493-540-3058D-SJFLFNA

[dusk siren]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminous_gemstones

Has the following been previously noted about Herodotus (first European to describe "luminous gems")?

Some accounts even suggest the precious stones would have included diamonds.

Herodotus pre-dates the "Silk Road," but diamonds were reaching Ancient Greece from India centuries before the "Silk Road" trade route from China rose to prominence.

If we're talking jewelry, precious stones, and commerce, the Aegean Civilization, including the Minoan Civilization (i.e., Crete, e.g., Kalydon) might have relevance, as well.
This was while working on that cluster of clues: Herodotus, Aegean, Kalydon, Hex, Silk Road, etc.

[fathom raft]

Damn I was hoping there'd be at least something on here

[surreal sinew]

Isint this a refrance to the karate kid wax on wax off

With mister miagi

[fresh quiver]

The Charm is for me looking like it was made out of Jade.
So its either a Jade Bunny or Jade Rabbit.

The Moon rabbit, Moon hare or Jade rabbit is a mythical folklore based on interpretations that identify the dark markings on the near side of the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit

[white patrol]

yes it's in page1's emote

Another folklore character related super close to moon rabbit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang'e

Chang'e was mentioned in a conversation between Houston CAPCOM and the Apollo 11 crew just before the first Moon landing in 1969:

Ronald Evans (CC): Among the large headlines concerning Apollo this morning, is one asking that you watch for a lovely girl with a big rabbit. An ancient legend says the girl named Chang-O has been living there for 4,000 years. It seems she was banished to the Moon because she stole the pill of immortality from her husband. You might also look for her companion, a large Chinese rabbit, who is easy to spot since he is always standing on his hind feet in the shade of a cinnamon tree. The name of the rabbit is not reported.
Michael Collins (CMP): Okay. We'll keep a close eye out for the bunny girl.[note 1]

The International Astronomical Union has assigned the name Chang-Ngo to a small impact crater on the Moon.

In 2007, China launched its first lunar probe, a robotic spacecraft named Chang'e 1 in the Goddess' honor. A second robotic probe, named Chang'e 2, was launched in 2010.[10] A third Chang'e spacecraft, called Chang'e 3, landed on the Moon on 14 December 2013, making China the third country to achieve such a feat after the former Soviet Union and the United States. The lander also delivered the robotic rover Yutu ("Jade Rabbit") to the lunar surface. On 3 January 2019, Chang'e 4 touched down on the far side of the Moon and deployed the Yutu-2 rover. Likewise all Chinese landers since then are named as Chang'e.[11]

Space related part

[dull marsh]

You're thinking about the earth charm moon charm

Oh no my bad it's moon charm rotating the wrong way too haha

[white patrol]

Wonder the relation between Juno pico and Omnialife
Juno made ORF, but it's Omnialife's logo on this tablet

[white patrol]

This season might contain some lvl3 clues :3
the Chinese dragon appeared back in season 1, in draco star bundle
Draco constellation/ Draco Studio (last official art) etc
Now with Chinese season we are seeing a bunch of Chinese dragon related cosmetics again, OYE hunters :3

referenced mythology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longmen_(mythology)

[surreal sinew]

Who was it that was looking into the wax on moon sticker since I do think the name is refeanxing the karate kid movie and the scenes with him polishing the cars

[white patrol]

Yep this whole page is reference for this mythology, I wonder if any related EE is in Fangwai city
Since KOI fish/Carp is in there (also dragon)

[gloomy anvil]

steal the spotlight (STS)
lunar eclipses
white and gold (like T3 and eggs?)
rabbit ears

[swift mulch]

The shadow moving in the different direction on the wax on sticker could be caused by:

• viewing the moon from a different hemisphere
• and eclipse

But looking at the moons orientation it is viewed from the northern hemisphere so the only logical explanation would be an eclipse

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1333232509533814876.webp?size=48

I'd say pretty close, might be same person but different angle

[snow walrus]

I see that face more than my relatives'.........

[swift mulch]

Different hair and different mouth, but he is one of the more closer matches I've seen

[swift mulch]

fr...

[molten bridge]

do we know what year the finals takes place?

timeanddate has a bunch of eclipses all documented all the way up until 2100

also those coordinates

what if we were looking at the wrong direction

why look on earth?

we have a whole sky with a bunch of stars

i have zero clue how to stanslate ANY of those coordinates to sky coordinates

also for anyone looking for the eclipses
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/

[velvet narwhal]

we don't know the exact year but it's ~2100

[molten bridge]

holy shit

i tried to see how i can make use of the coordinates on the sky

what the fuck

and this is not the most brutal one

[fresh quiver]

And that’s why we think it is possible to be just plain earth coordinates.
As you cannot put the earth coordinates into Galxy Coordinates or similar 😅

But yes. Could still be

[molten bridge]

from what i know, both a rabbit and a dragon constellation is visible from all 5? of those coordinates

this is literally called draco

better view, note, the tail end of ursa minor (little dipper) is the north star

[white patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Symbols

The White Tiger (Chinese: 白虎; pinyin: Báihǔ), is one of the Four Symbols of the Chinese constellations. It is sometimes called the White Tiger of the West (西方白虎; Xīfāng Báihǔ). It represents the west in terms of direction and the autumn season.

[molten bridge]

connected to this, orion passes over the west this time of year

okay one more try

[fresh quiver]

Back to this with rabbits.
Time to go into a burrow again 😂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares

The symbol features three hares or rabbits chasing each other in a circle. Like the triskelion,[8] the triquetra, and their antecedents (e.g., the triple spiral), the symbol of the three hares has a threefold rotational symmetry.

[molten bridge]

i am having trouble finding the rabbit constellation myself

[white patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_constellations#:~:text=Serpens / Ophiuchus / Hercules)-,The%20Twenty%2DEight%20Mansions,-%5Bedit%5D

Different part of constellations symbolize different part of the 4 creatures (idk how to put it)

[molten bridge]

so the dragon is virgo minus some stars?

no, i cant quite see how to "draw" this constellation

[white patrol]

makes me think of this as well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_triangle

[fresh quiver]

I just read the article further I posted.
It has connections to silk road 😮

Also a connection to "devon"

"Some claim that the Devon name, Tinners' Rabbits, is related to local tin miners adopting it."

[white patrol]

Yes I've seen that wiki Sam 🤣 #easter-eggs message
I was in that rabbit hole as well and my dumb ass found absolute nothing

[fresh quiver]

Also a connection to the Jade rabbit

[white patrol]

There's a lunar rover named after moon rabbit/jade rabbit too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yutu_(rover)
just adding it as additional info

[swift mulch]

Juuup I went through this too when writing my essay on the conversion of geo coordinates to equatorial ones 😅

[molten bridge]

and the consensus?

[swift mulch]

It's probably not equatorial coordinates, all though not fully ruled out yet. It could be very interesting to look into the ecliptic coordinate system or planetocentric coordinate systems. Also for the moon for example.

If you want to read up, here's where my message starts: #easter-eggs message

[molten bridge]

what i thought doing was take those coordinates and turn them from geo to equatorial and stuff

i am actively trying to look up how

[fresh quiver]

Oh. I have that wiki page open. I forgot to add it 😂 ty

[swift mulch]

Yea that's what I described in the message a shared above

[fresh quiver]

Yutu carried a alpha particle **X **-ray spectrometer and an infrared spectrometer

[white patrol]

oooh nice find sam :3 I like this

[fading vigil]

@white patrol it’s your time to shine, my friend) also happy to know better your culture

[surreal sinew]

oh god whats he gonna drop here

[fading vigil]

She is a representative of the culture. So we have a little “cheat” to know things right

[surreal sinew]

yep and me and many others are swedish translators or swedish lore guys

if u watched the major u prolly saw me att some point or another holding the mgl rework sign

was easy just to take the train down

[fresh quiver]

Also Yutus ground penetrating radar found evidence for a mininum of nine distinct rock layers

[white patrol]

Thanks 8!! Happy to introduce you to my culture as well!!
tho I am Chinese but I don't think I have enough brain cell to make connections lmao

[fading vigil]

Rework? Nah..
Dope skins? Yes! 🙂

[surreal sinew]

wait lets go to off topic lul

[fading vigil]

Neither we have , iykyk

[fresh quiver]

During 15 April 2014, the Chang'e 3 mission, including its Yutu rover, witnessed a total eclipse of the Sun by the Earth from the surface of the Moon.

[surreal sinew]

BUT WE CAN DO IT ONE COMBINED BRAINCELL ATT A TIME

[white patrol]

the best I can do is translating restaurant name in Fangwai city

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1149858485626994768.webp?size=48

[white patrol]

Interesting..

[swift mulch]

The moon comes up in awfully many connections/clues

And since rabbit now also can be linked to the moon potentially, maybe the white rabbit (which i still expect to be on fortune) can only be found on the night variant? So far I have only looked on the clear day variant. Just a thought

[alpine junco]

Cuniculus

[surreal sinew]

GUYS WE CAN GET NORMAL LAS VEGAS NON SANDSTORM ACCORDING TO THE MENU THAT SHOWS ALL THE VARIANTS AND WHAT CAN SHOW UP THIS IS BIG W

[white patrol]

that's one way to connect AIW and space related stuff

[robust junco]

Search for namas

[hard current]

We’ve always been able to do this… unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean

[fresh quiver]

well... always is a bit wrong.
The time where we only had limited settings for private lobbies 😄

[hard current]

Ohhh outside of private lobbies I see

[fresh quiver]

i dont know. I am not sure what he/she exactly means

[unkempt dune]

Las Vegas 2032 was only in private matches for a while

now it's back in rotation alongside Las Vegas Stadium

(although I don't know if this rotation change happened this season or last)

[dry belfry]

In Fwangwai city, each air conditioner has a energy label on it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Energy_Label

[surreal sinew]

like public matches

[dusky sierra]

penrose 512 signalis aint no way

also that chroma screen for the tablet... sus...

[severe creek]

I know the file exists somewhere and I can't find it for the announcer voice lines. heard them say something about nama tama is watching in point break on bernal

[severe creek]

the bundle isn't in the store either which makes it more sus...

[dusky sierra]

hmm...

[severe creek]

and the only cns related cosmetic with the new season is that multipad bundle with a "seek the truth" sticker

[fresh quiver]

Which screen? This?

[dusky sierra]

nah the other one

[fresh quiver]

which other one?

[severe creek]

this one @fresh quiver

[fading vigil]

Maybe I should try to run finals with <60Hz on monitor..

[fresh quiver]

I've not found other articles yet.
But in the wiki article of the "Line-crossing ceremony" when someone first crosses the equator.

There is a mention of "Golden X"

When a ship must cross the Equator reasonably close to one of these meridians, the ship's captain might plot a course across the Golden X so that the ship's crew can be initiated as Golden or Emerald/Royal Diamond Shellbacks. [citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-crossing_ceremony

[fresh quiver]

we had "TWO THREE"

ISO continent codes have TWO-letter country codes and THREE-letter country codes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_continent_(data_file)

[olive torrent]

Found the hat again, give me a sec

[ashen hill]

Yall it’s been a while since I checked here, last I saw people had just finished finding all the arcade tickets on Nozomi, I miss anything important?

[snow walrus]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1332758896594387066

[ashen hill]

Thank u, I have now caught myself up

[fresh quiver]

?

[snow walrus]

there is a circular array on the wt point

it's animated

[dawn crater]

uh.. hello??

Someone explain this please

[past karma]

I'm sorry to break the news, but you are roughly 11 tickets and 3 manhole covers behind

[dawn crater]

🥹

Well explanation please?

[grizzled birch]

Ooooooo

Is it still active and do you get rewards?

[dawn crater]

Rewards???

[snow walrus]

we couldn't extract any reward

maybe there is but unknown atm

[snow walrus]

you can do the steps above yes

[swift mulch]

The EE isn't solved yet tho, so there might be a reward waiting for us for when we do

[past karma]

Was this room ever investigated?
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/HaCB6QAeGi

Haven't seen it mentioned in the SYS$Horizon thread, but I didn't scroll trough everything there

[swift mulch]

Not that I'm aware of, but I feel like it's more of a bug that you don't collide with the ceiling than an actual "room"/EE

[hard current]

doesn't look like any particularly secret room, seems more like a bug

[past karma]

Yea I agree! I wonder if this bug was only introduced this season

[obsidian tendon]

does the big lion statue's butthole/balls have significance

on the new map

[surreal sinew]

Ayo what (prolly not but who knows)

[onyx hollow]

Yes, they make me significantly uncomfortable

[obsidian tendon]

might be a white rabbit stuck in there not sure though

[surreal sinew]

LOL ngl that rabbit would be brown

[violet crystal]

Shower

This community needs to have a shower

[burnt sun]

No - this has been a thing since basically SyS release

[neat crest]

Came here to talk about it... I'm late I guess

[hard current]

do we have a leek map thread?

[rose wasp]

Was I supposed to get sum for joining this community

[hard current]

anyone wanna hop on kyoto?

[dawn kindle]

Guys

We need to study this multico stuff

I don't have the instruments to EE hunt but there are some sort of mudprints on the back of the "Certified Talent" weapon charm that might be worth investigating

As well as interesting titles and quotes on items and their descriptions

Directive 9, this is what perfection looks like when it stops trying, most originals were destroyed when the program was shut down

All that stuff seems interesting and since multico kinda seems like the big bad guy of the story and these are the first cosmetics that I've seen from multico

[obsidian tendon]

holy canoli

[dusk siren]

Re: Dragons, Blue Diamonds, and The Golden Fleece
If the rugs in the Dragon Studio offices on Skyway are a hint for "blue diamonds," and the Hope Diamond is a 'loose thread' from Lvl 2(?) as it appears to be on the Miro board, and the "Golden Fleece" is an existing clue, then this is a "dragon" + "blue diamond" (i.e., "Hope Diamond" / "The French Blue") + Golden Fleece connection that might be of interest.

[dusk siren]

Don't think it's anything but a curious "White Rabbit" + China connection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rabbit_(candy)

When the candy is exported, it goes by the brand "Golden Rabbit."

[white patrol]

this was one of the clues iirc

[white patrol]

Jade rabbit/Moon Rabbit is also white btw

[dusk siren]

burrw -> elliptical black hole? (i.e., rotating black hole or Kerr black hole)
https://www.reachthefinals.com/burrw

Apparently could relate to backward time travel

why 'burrw'???

Burrow because 'falling' down the black hole kinda like burrowing, or simply like a rabbit's burrow (i.e., rabbit hole).
But why without the "o"?
Maybe the "o" is gone because it 'collapsed'? Like a black hole is a collapsed star?

The GIF does have a black background. If the ellipses are holes then the inside of the holes are 'elliptical black holes'
[Sorry if people already suggested this back in the day.]

[surreal sinew]

How fast are the pulses I had a thought bout the pulses from quasar (think that’s what it was called the laser things from the ends of supermassive blackholes) but speed scaled to some number we got as a hint maybe

[olive torrent]

For some time, people haven't noticed that there are small golden hats around monico,

I found one of them near the church, but haven't seen any other yet I have a screenshot of it but can post it

[dull marsh]

Do you have some screenshots? You can send them in DM or post them via imgur

[olive torrent]

Okay

As far as I know, these can be the monico Easter egg,

[dull marsh]

I'm pretty sure these have always been there and resemble actual lights that are used to highlight stuff in the city 🤔

[olive torrent]

Huh?

But when I shoot them, they explode into little coins

Nothing is underneath as well.

[gloomy anvil]

RIP this website

[unkempt dune]

what was it?

[gloomy anvil]

Dartmoor letterboxing forum

[unkempt dune]

what'd they talk about

it's pretty much geocaching, right?

[gloomy anvil]

letterboxing

[unkempt dune]

sounds like fonts

not storing a letter in a box 🤣

[gloomy anvil]

Yes, it was the precursor to geocaching and originated in Dartmoor, Devon

[alpine junco]

Now its a thai gambling site

[surreal sinew]

damn

MISS ELIMI-LATTE SET (copied from steam uppdate)
kinda souns like iluminati feeds more into the roses and ee stuff

[gloomy anvil]

Trying to think of more groups of three relevant level 3 objects, themes, topics etc that we can combine to make 19 total characters.

[gloomy anvil]

destiny, columbus, kibo are another 3 names that total 19 characters

[surreal sinew]

maybe smth totaling 21 character 7X3

[gloomy anvil]

monaco, lasvegas, seoul
monaco, lasvegas, kyoto
commence, promise, hunt
slies, cetacea, asconce
rabbit, dolphin, monkey

devncrssing, galile, cb ? - (o=0=null)
elvis, rckandrll, vegas ? - who, what, where (o=0=null)
mary, cathedral, monaco ? - who, what, where

ospuze, holtow, iseul-t ?

[gloomy anvil]

why 7x3?

[surreal sinew]

Cus 2+1=3

[fresh quiver]

where is the 7 from?

[surreal sinew]

Nowhere but needed if u wanna get to 21 so maybe 7 sets of 3s

[fresh quiver]

okay. let me ask the other way around.
Why do you think the password would be 21 long?

[surreal sinew]

I beqcuse 2+1=3 I don’t actually have a concereat reason just brainstorming I threw out for opinions

[gloomy anvil]

Would it be crazy to say that Herodotus, and how Rob presented it ("HERO.US") could hint at writing north america as "n.america" (.us = .america)?

europe, n.america, asia makes 19, but this may just be stretching and forcing things to fit.

Even if that was intended I'm not sure what it would give us that we don't already have.

[fresh quiver]

if we go this way with HeroDOTus
we can totally to this with Europe too.
"€pe"

[surreal sinew]

the €pe kinda looks like ape to me

or Epe

maybe as in asia could be short for asterisk and it would be *ia but thats kinda far fetched il try to find other things that might be able to be found in there

maybe this https://theasciicode.com.ar/ascii-control-characters/shift-in-ascii-code-15.html the shift in character

maybe instead of asia we use orient or far east maybe smth there

[unkempt dune]

Hex can connect to diamonds since 6 is the atomic number of Carbon, which is what diamonds are mostly made up of

[unkempt dune]

I don't know how practical it is because I haven't read the full thing, but this looks interesting for the coordinates potentially: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.927597

[unkempt dune]

Another thought is that 123 can be read as "one to three" aka 1-3

It could also be 1:3

you could call that a trinity connection I suppose

[unkempt dune]

related to said paper: https://h3geo.org/

[fading vigil]

One to three:
can it be three musketeers?

Also he looks like our unknown guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Batz_de_Castelmore_d'Artagnan

[crisp eagle]

We may have already said it before many times but
1+2+3=6 - hex

If we do the same with A B C with their number values we get
A(1) + B(2) + C(3) = F(6)

6F to hex is 111 and 111 to ascii is o

0 = o

[surreal sinew]

but dont we remove o's for the pattern

[dull marsh]

Thought the same but couldn't find a matching picture (though it could still be him!)

[crisp eagle]

What pattern?

[surreal sinew]

removing o's like burrw instead of burrow

[crisp eagle]

Oh yea. I don’t know if we always do it as a rule. I just know we had a clue in L2 that was 0 = o

[fresh quiver]

so back at null / emptiness? 😄

[fading vigil]

Guys! Was thios found already?
Three main questions: When\Where\Who (in backward order)

[dull marsh]

I have a theory

I don't have a definitive proof yet, but I think it's pretty solid

Imma write it out and then I dump it here, might take a lil while to get everything

[fading vigil]

Took a look on all Iseult-T Sponsor rewards: they all has sys Horison\CNS designs.. Like violet polygon mesh, pixels, "glitch like" things..
What if Iseul-T has connections to CNS? (Also Iseul-T was found in Seoul)

[fresh quiver]

Uhhhh. I love Ludo Theories
Imma get the popcorn ready for everyone 😄

[dull marsh]

Do we do it as a game? 😄

[fading vigil]

super-double-triple cheese one here, please)

[fresh quiver]

The good old "Can you all follow along how I got where?" ? xD

[dull marsh]

Yeah, but this time there are many paths lol

even tho it's not to Rome 😄

[fading vigil]

but they are all to Rob 😄

[fresh quiver]

I will go the null space theory xD

[past karma]

Saw this image's preview (self-portrait by Salvator Rosa) and had to do a double take
But nope, unfortunately not our guy

Full

[fading vigil]

I’m still waiting

[dull marsh]

I'm gonna eat, so probably in 1 or 2h

[hard current]

Ooooo new ludo theory!!

[hard current]

Ludo

[dull marsh]

Ok so

(pinging cuz I know he wants to) @fresh quiver

I'm not sure where to start from

The first step is probably the idea that 1 2 3 are the 3 EEs from level 3 activation

• WR = SLIES
• Dolphins = CETACEA
• 3HM = ASCONCE

I think we basically gonna go almost straight to the point 😄

Although there are some clues which can be useful to find first...

In Level 2, the first image was about a Griffin and was full of fire

Then we got the Cathedral one with meteors, leading to Aethusa 1064

One potential connection here is that William the Conqueror started his conquest in 1064

Then overall Level 2 was about 2 things: Gold and Egg

In particular in T3 we had 2 question marks, one made of Gold and one made of egg shell/Calcite

Then we have this which imo does connect

I think this makes a link between egg shell = calcium = skeleton

There is one theme that has stuck with Rob for the longest time, and it's the dinosaurs

• we've seen many dino EEs in BF
• it links to skeletons
• to the myth of the Griffin (likely from people finding dinosaur bones)
• even to "barrels barrels barrels" image which is oil barrels?
• meteors (that wiped them)
• Linnaeus (which we know is in the hunt)

Now that we have that, there is one thing that links the following ideas:

• dinosaurs
• sun
• Black Knight (via King Arthur, Tristan, and some other ways)
• Merlin
• William the Conqueror
• North America, Europe, Asia
• SLIES, CETACEA, ASCONCE
• ISS
• Elvis
• Ra and Set (egyptian gods)
• Alice in Wonderland
• Devon
• 88 (STS, number of constellations)
• Satan
• "RR in the middle"
• Herodotus
• JBB and LIGO
• Open Your Eyes

anyone wanna take a guess? 😄

[fading vigil]

Dragons? (Draco)

[dull marsh]

yup

[fading vigil]

Golden dragon lays golden eggs?

[dull marsh]

Black Knight

• King Arthur's father is Uther Pendragon
• Tristan has stories with dragons
• chivalry is often associated to dragons
• ... (there are likely a bunch more connections)

Welsh Dragon

• Merlin: has stories with the 2 Welsh dragons
• William the Conqueror: killed Harold II who's symbol was the dragon

3 EEs

• SLIES: sly
• CETACEA: cetus
• ASCONCE: malicious
  All 3 can describe a dragon

HYDRA

• dragon is heavily associated to the hydra
• 88 (STS, number of constellations): Hydra is the largest of the 88 constellations
• JBB and LIGO: the first merger of two neutro stars, GW170817, came from the Hydra constellation

OTHER

• dinosaurs: interpreted as dragon by many cultures, Sven Hedin expeditions found dinosaur fossils
• sun: sun deities associated with dragons
• North America, Europe, Asia: all 3 continents have different forms of dragons
• ISS: SpaceX Dragon spacecraft
• Elvis: had a Dragon Suit (just like the Mexican Sun Stone one)
• Ra and Set (egyptian gods): Set killed Apep (associated with eclipses), Apep being a Dragon
• Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass (a mirror) has the Jabberwocky (a dragon)
• Devon: both devonian era (= dinosaurs) and Devon the dragon (from Quest for Camelot)
• Satan: sometimes associated to a dragon
• "RR in the middle": can describe both J. R. R. Tolkien (Lord of the Ring) or George R. R. Martin (Song of Ice and Fire, Game of Thrones), both heavily associated to dragons
• Herodotus: made mentions of dragon-like monsters
• John the Baptist is sometimes also associated with John of Patmos, which in the New Testament, Revelation 12:3 (123!!) describes a Great Red Dragon
• Open Your Eyes: from greek etymology

The Greek word δράκων is most likely derived from the Greek verb δέρκομαι (dérkomai) meaning "I see"

[swift mulch]

Draco constellation, northern hemisphere, contains little and big dipper

Dragons in S9

[dull marsh]

Dragon Constellation Studio and Skeletons

and Black (knights?)

and 1 2 3

and pyramid on the shirt

[swift mulch]

Also you greek “i see” > OYE > Hey, look!

[dull marsh]

ALSO

Yeah it does connect well back to first image of Level 2 which is full of FIRE

We've had many fusion temperature clues

Dragons love to protect GOLD

[swift mulch]

The walk in the park clip I shared was also during a moment full of fire

[dull marsh]

Dragon eggs

[swift mulch]

#1203859365610922036 message

Ludo after all this, just give us the passwords already

[dull marsh]

As weak as this connection feels, it could be a thing

[swift mulch]

Dragon fly

Rob been talking about dragons…

[dull marsh]

Also since Level 3 he keeps talking about him being "10 thousands years old" or "100 thousand" or other various very long periods of times, which always makes me think of fossils

[hard current]

Would explain the Draco stuff in skyway

[dull marsh]

Pretty sure there also are blinking/shutoff letters on Las Vegas casino which spells "SERPENS" which is also directly associated with Dragons

I mean HECK look at this page, it has so many things we've been looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon

[swift mulch]

Reminds me of the world serpent in norse mythology

[dull marsh]

When I saw that my brain ticked pretty hard

Even the name "Set", with the whole "empty set" kind of clues

[swift mulch]

Should be something in the multico files to link this all together right?

Considering egypt and the pyramids

[dull marsh]

Alice Liddell (from Alice in Wonderland) went to Llandudno in Wales (dragon flag)

[swift mulch]

I feel like we need this on Miro

All the stuff connecting to dragons

It’s a lot

[dull marsh]

[swift mulch]

🐲

[sand rune]

Is lore still building up and up? I havent been here for a very long time

I stoped at end of season 2

[unkempt dune]

#📕┇lore would fit better for this question

[severe creek]

this might be a stretch and divergence, but this makes me curious if this is a connecting thread (10,000) with this Google review from the alleged Rob account that might help solidify it a bit more as his

https://goo.gl/maps/AjjaL38eAeAJxH359?g_st=ac

10,000 is such a stretch of a number to be used when any visitMonaco site will estimate between 4k-7k roses

[dull marsh]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_(constellation)

Thuban (α Draconis) was the northern pole star from 3942 BC, when it moved farther north than Theta Boötis, until 1793 BC. The Egyptian Pyramids were designed to have one side facing north, with an entrance passage geometrically aligned so that Thuban would be visible at night.

There a 3 stars above magnitude 3 in Draco

[surreal sinew]

after reading through all this im just hoping that we see a pair of eyes somewhere on this soon

[dull marsh]

nah I'm not hoping for any eyes even if we find something correct

the thing I would love the most would be to find a connection which looks perfect, like the mystery face or something in that style

[crisp eagle]

Satan is depicted as a serpent or dragon in The Bible, as Ludo pointed out, with the desire to destroy God's people (the church). Maybe that's why we found our first Golden Nama Tama in the rubble of a cathedral?

We always assume one is in the LV map. The official Nevada State Fossil is the Ichthyosauria which is called a Sea Dragon and it was related to the Dolphin

https://knpr.org/desert-companion/2024-08-08/sea-dragons-in-the-desert

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyosauria

[dull marsh]

There's also one line that stuck with me, which is that "he wanted to tell that story for a very long time", implying it's about something older than us

Right now I like the Dragon idea cuz it does fit that well, though it's missing some glue somewhere

[crisp eagle]

Yea I think this is a step in the right direction. Good job, Ludo!

[dull marsh]

:3

[crisp eagle]

Looking back at dragon keywords, it's like we kept brushing up against it as a theme but missing it. I even obsessed with Hyda-Q and Dragon Studios for a while. especially after Frosty pointed out it has Hydrandeas there too

I also kinda forgot about Rob's obsession with dragons haha

[dull marsh]

Right?! I can understand his frustration, we just have to look at the freaking wiki page to see it lol

but who looks at Dragon wiki page 😄

[dull marsh]

There's a software called Dragon used to process satellite imagery of earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_(remote_sensing)

[bitter palm]

Ape Squad here! im trying to look for if we have any information for the second round of nama tokens on nozomi?

[dull marsh]

Right there! #1381733504718606496 message

[bitter palm]

thank you soso much!

[dull marsh]

The first SpaceX Crew Dragon capsule that flew with astronauts is also called Endeavour (like STS-88 space shuttle)

[swift mulch]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Dragon

[dull marsh]

Now the question is, assuming this would be correct, how do we go from this to 3 passwords 🤔

Because of how 1 2 3 were associated with NA/EU/Asia, I would assume it might have to do with 3 different types of dragon

[swift mulch]

We need to figure out what to do with those coordinates

they will be more important than maybe dragon fly wings i'd presume 😅

[dull marsh]

yeah for sure

[gloomy anvil]

On the topic, Terry Gilliam and Monty Python could have a connection to Python, the "serpent, sometimes represented as a medieval-style dragon" in Greek mythology that was killed by Apollo, and that has connections to Typhon, who is the basis for "the European dragon we know today".

[white patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Golden_Children_(folklore)

peculiar appearances tend to vary, but they are usually connected with astronomical motifs on some part of their bodies, such as the Sun, the moon or stars

[dull marsh]

Ooooh true, on top of the Black Knight/King Arthur one

I'm also not sure if the "hex" clues would be a clue for the number 6, being the sum of 1, 2 and 3, or a clue for X, or a cipher for the password 🤔

[crisp eagle]

That's what I was thinking and what had me looking up "dragons" in Nevada or NA
Maybe if we figure out characteristics of dragons in each of those areas, it could help with finding the eggs. Like European dragons are known for fire and destruction. We found the golden egg on Monaco in the destroyed cathedral. which could also tie into Satan the dragon destroying it. I could be losing my mind too though

Korea, China, and Japan dragons seem to be associated with water a lot. We've got water on Kyoto

First map with it being introduced in that way too, where it's inbounds

[dull marsh]

I'm wondering if the coordinates are coordinates or if they're a code of some sort 🤔

For sure they look like coordinates, but:

• why is there the gif 3 times below MW.AREA X
• is it "relative" to 3 different things (for example 3 diff locations) so each set of 5 coordinates give 5 new points?
• or do they give the same thing, just that within 3 different context they're clue for different things?

I'm trying to think of what else they could be:

• for example a code based on a book, first number being the page, then something

[crisp eagle]

makes me think of the Dewey Decimal System

[dull marsh]

Stuff that is for sure is that they are not "constant" or "known" numbers like the distance sun-earth or the mass of the moon or some property of a star

as we would find them easily when searching

tho they could be just in a different unit, but I don't see how we could solve that so it's unlikely

[plush magnet]

Hello dear EE hunters! Does anyone remember what company is responsible for making the weapons virtually accurate? I remember seeing this detail somewhere but i forgot who the company / sponsor is

[hard forge]

Alfa Acta?

[dull marsh]

had to do a triple take 😭

Funny enough, he says "19. Dragons", 19 being the length of "sliescetaceaasconce" and linked to the sun

ok this is kind of obnoxious if you ask me 💀

[white patrol]

not sure if dragon connects every single clue or password but I can see it being very important :3 good find ludo

[dull marsh]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_212 16?

Radical 212, 龍, 龙, or 竜 meaning "dragon" (龍部), is one of the two of the 214 Kangxi radicals that are composed of 16 strokes.

This thing looks like it could be a potential link between Hydra-Q's name, Aztec Dragon, New York, Art Deco (Glamora casino, Chrysler Building), not sure tho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(1982_film)

[white patrol]

Hydra_Q (Hydra being serpent like water monster)

[dull marsh]

Pretty sure it's Hydra-Q Rinny

[white patrol]

I hate you

secretly added bundle?

I don't remember this being store's front page or weekly update video

[fading vigil]

Toothless, Smaug, Tiamat, fafnir
First dragons that I could remember

[odd sequoia]

There’s a few famous dragons in Chinese culture, one tied to constellations among other things.

[gloomy anvil]

this was in s8 :)

[white patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-animegirl-gif-25753882

sorry arc raider took my time away :c

[dusk siren]

I might be missing the real significance of all this, but if trying to connect dragons (or by extension, dinosaurs, fossils, etc.) to Level 3, for which we have the five pairs of coordinates, would it be crazy to start doing searches like these?
"Kazakhstan" AND "dragon"
"Kazakhstan" AND "dinosaur"
"Kara Sea" AND "fossil"
"Kara Sea" AND "egg"
etc.

For instance, not quite a dragon, even if it looks like one, but I stumbled on this for "Kazakhstan" + "egg" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiterek_(monument)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simurgh

Admittedly, this kind of approach yields LOTS of "hits" and maybe not enough to narrow them down.

A random example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Dragons

[dusk siren]

The Tengiz oil field is MUCH closer to where the mapped coordinate in Kazakhstan is located, where there was a massive explosion there in 1985 that resulted in a rare occurrence: a non-natural form of obsidian glass. At some point, this glass, originally called Tengizite, became associated with the name "dragonglass" from Game of Thrones and perhaps originating with this article from 2016: https://archive.nerdist.com/the-mystery-of-kazakhstans-dragonglass/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BD7zmMmOFQ8/

skeartes

Ever seen blue obsidian? Tengizite is a non-natural form of obsidian that formed as the result of an oil field explosion in Tengiz, Kazakhstan in 1985. The sedimentary rocks melted beneath the blaze, forming a thin layer of the blue-black stone. #rocks #minerals #geology

Instagram

This flying boat, named the Seedrache (Sea Dragon), did reconnaissance flights over the Kara Sea during WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blohm_%26_Voss_BV_138_Seedrache

Anyway, we all see where this could go.

[dusk siren]

Trinitite and how it was formed in the Trinity nuclear test is reminiscent of Tengizite and how it was formed in the Tengiz oil field explosion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite

Quasicrystals bear a similarity to the kind of ordered, non-repetitive patterns that Sir Roger Penrose is famous for. https://thebulletin.org/2021/06/what-are-atomic-bomb-quasicrystals-and-why-do-they-matter/

There is a potential meteorite connection in that the first discovered naturally occurring quasicrystal was extraterrestrial in origin and named icosahedrite. This might give a potential connection to both dinosaurs (via their extinction) and icosahedrons, which apparently might have been a previous clue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedrite

[dusk siren]

The only other example of a naturally occurring quasicrystal that I've seen so far is decagonite. Ludonope noticed what appeared to be a decagon in an image previously, but it seems like later the consensus was actually that it was an 11-sided hendecagon. #1263921941530677370 message

[plush magnet]

maybe? i thought it was revealed in earlier seasons, I just remember seeing something somewhere about a random sponsor being the one that made sure the gun models were accurate... maybe it was in like a rockhound black or spear video?

[silk bolt]

is lore solved yet son?

[olive torrent]

Invada, or season 7 ultimate pass sponsor.

I can't get the name right.

Vople does do some as well, but forgot if it was meat space equipment or virtual

[dull marsh]

Yeah, but we do have to go through the exploration and see if something clicks

[surreal sinew]

dude this geolagy thing was really cool to read through

[dense smelt]

This is what I see when I look through this channel

[dull marsh]

and it's kinda grounded currently 😄

[gloomy anvil]

I just know occam's razor is going to hit so hard

[void juniper]

Yeah its ivada but i had to look it up too

[gloomy anvil]

I know level 2 was easier, particularly early on, but looking back I'm always reminded that each tier only had a few core themes, and most clues could be discarded once their connections to those themes had been identified. I feel like we sometimes get too attached to the clues themselves.

And I don't think we actually should discard clues, because they have a tendency to crop up again, but for the sake of solving passwords, I don't think we're expected to factor everything into one grand theory of unification.

[silk bolt]

last time i was here it was the three assed monkeys and it still does look like this since

[crisp eagle]

That’s what kills me. It seems we always had 2 themes. Like 79 and Roman. We got led back there over and over again. Until we realized “oh 79 as a Roman numeral”

So with Rob’s previous comment about it “being called Level 3 after all” I assume we need to combine 3 main themes.

Level 1 was even just one thing at a time. 3 times. Level 2 was 2 things combined 9 times. But technically only 3 if you think about it. First gold. Then egg. Then golden egg. Now we possibly need 3 things combined 3 times

Thinking out loud again. Sorry to beat the dead horse

[gloomy anvil]

Now in spite of what I just said let me go back to an old clue

I wonder if "I_Want_to" is both an X-Files / X clue and also a number 3 clue, because it's only the first 3 words of "I Want to Believe".

[gloomy anvil]

I think this can be particularly nasty once a tier has gone on for a long time. The more clues Rob gives, the more diverse they get, and the easier it becomes to branch them off into their own, brand new theories.

This happened in T3 with the Nobel medal clue. (although hypocritically I do still think the Aeneid theory about that was accurate).

[plush magnet]

they mainly do training programs and athletic equipment. but ill keep looking I need the knowledge for my next theory video but if I cant find it ill just say so

[dull marsh]

beat em until they give answers

we overthink, gotta beat dead horses to see clear

[crisp eagle]

agreed. Like Rob has told us many times. We already have everything we need. I bet it's just sitting right there in our faces, and we've brushed up against it many times without realizing

[gloomy anvil]

I have this crazy idea that if I rewrite the level 3 article in the past tense, as if we already solved it, and include only the most obvious/immediate clue interpretations, then reading it back will make the solution clear 💀

we are reaching levels of desperation previously unseen

like how it feels to read a level 2 article and see very easily how everything connects

[hearty meteor]

i mean, doesnt hurt atp does it

the chart cant get much worse

[dull marsh]

hmm, ngl I felt like we were going 10000x more crazy during T3

right now we are just struggling but I don't think we're doing too bad mentally

[gloomy anvil]

I'm about to try gaslight myself into thinking level 3 already ended by reading its article in the paste tense just in case it sparks an idea. speak for yourself

maybe I should rephrase, I am reaching levels of desperation previously unseen lol

[dull marsh]

Sly = more like python/snake
Cetus = more the aquatic kind of dragon
Malicious combined with multiple heads = more like hydra

Which matches NA, Asia and EU, although not in the same order as what we were given

[dull marsh]

Come on... https://merlin.fandom.com/wiki/Aithusa

[dark beacon]

did yall get the QR code on the tree on the new map

[dusk siren]

I admit this is a bit orthogonal (but I'd argue only slightly since dragons don't just protect caches of golden eggs, but also gems and diamonds and other riches)...
but in addition to a potential quasicrystal connection, a reminder that diamonds and CaCO3 are also crystals. I do wish there were more clear cut "crystal" clues, though, to make it worth pushing this angle harder. Maybe also worth noting the triplet: amorphous; ordered, non-repeating; ordered, repeating.

[dull marsh]

We gonna need some screenshots kind contestant

[gloomy anvil]

haven't heard about one myself, can you share more?

[dark beacon]

i didnt take ascreenshot

new map outsdie the construction site but ihave a clip so ill take a screenshot from it

low quality cant scan from the SS but i cant scan it myself hoping someone with 4k monitor could help

[dull marsh]

Ooooh

There is a chance that it's from a photoscan, but we'll have a look for sure

Thanks for sharing

[dark beacon]

west side of construction hope i can help with the easter egg im too dumb to figure this stuff out

if someone can get that to scan someone ping me im curiouis to see what it is

[rugged breach]

Looks baked into the texture from the photogrammetry, it's on nearly all trees

Having trouble scanning it though

[dark beacon]

some trees dont have it but some do, yeah weird that it doesnt scan

[hearty meteor]

prob photogrammetry, they are quite common in china

[dark beacon]

still weird that it wont scan

[hearty meteor]

maybe not high res enough? you could try recreating it

[rugged breach]

100% but still neat

[rugged breach]

It's mega blurry by default and the screen adds another layer to it, not that weird

Unedited pics if anyone wants to give it a shot

Best I got but still can't scan, though it does recognise it as a qr code

[rugged breach]

Found the exact one

https://www.greening.gov.hk/tree_qr_label?unitid=202003600328072

Finally it scans

@dark beacon

[dusk siren]

Re: Perrott Garriott and Garriott -> Garritt from XYRR1x2 and geocache clues
Considering it like a cryptic crossword clue, if you read it as "parrot Garritt," look for homophones of "Garritt"
Curious example that a couple people mentioned back in 2023, but a "garrot" is a seaduck known as a "goldeneye"

Duck and Cover a separate connection somehow?

"Garret" is the one I was trying to remember. Etymology includes the idea of "defending," so vague association with a dragon defending its cache. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/garret

[dull marsh]

Hello again Black Tortoise of the North

Many Japanese dragon names are loanwords from Chinese. For instance, the Japanese counterparts of the astrological Four Symbols are:

• Seiryū < Qinglong 青龍 "Azure Dragon"
• Suzaku < Zhuque 朱雀 "Vermilion Bird"
• Byakko < Baihu 白虎 "White Tiger"
• Genbu < Xuanwu 玄武 "Black Tortoise"

[severe creek]

there are turtles on the night variant of Fangwai in the koi pond

[safe gorge]

Does anyone know what leek of the land map refers to? Or any theory at all about the map?

[dusk siren]

I hope it's okay to look for dragon adjacencies still, so "dinosaurs" and "fossils"... I wish it were a skeleton, but a famous fossil found in Peary Land, Greenland, where one of the Lvl 3 coordinates are located. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Passet

[fading vigil]

Is it a first theory/clue to the coordinates?!

[dusk siren]

I'm just going from Ludonope's lead that a significant share of clues all seem to point to dragons

For instance, I wish it were closer to Peary Land, Greenland, but there is a Dragon Point nearby on Hendrik island (the "Dragon Point" wikipedia article is a faulty redirect, unfortunately).

There are long, involved articles that google searches will turn up about exploration of the northern tip of Greenland that reference places like Dragon Point, explorers like Peary, and artifacts that were discovered.

Should note that Peary Land requires making one of the coordinates negative, according to convention.

Will try to stick to +/+ coordinates for the time being.

Norwegian Sea seems interesting. The location I attributed to the Barents Sea might technically be considered to be located in the northernmost part of the Norwegian Sea

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=146720

If we include things like sea serpents, sea monsters, etc., to go along with dragons, then this seems kind of close to being on the nose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaus_Magnus

From his Carta Marina (1539)

I think I misread the Norwegian Sea map, though, and the mapped location is definitely north of it.

Found claims that there are associations between the aurora borealis (a term coined by Galileo) and dragons.
"It is said" doing a lot of work here...

[white patrol]

they are also related to constellations #easter-eggs message

[dull marsh]

Yup, I'm mentioning the Black Tortoise of the North because it was 'd by Rob

[dusk siren]

A few potential Las Vegas connections after Ludonope reminded me that the dim letters along the casino appear to spell out "serpens":
Argon Casino - "argon" is tantalizingly close to an anagram of "dragon"
Eastwood Casino - Clint Eastwood starred as a mountain climber in The Eiger Sanction, in which the villain is named Dragon.
Glamora - Only obscure references. Basically, I don't know how significant this game "Flight Rising" could be. Anyway, there's a dragon called Glamora in the game.
Zaraby - Dragons feature in Egyptian legends and antiquities 🤷

Last try on a dragon idea... People have speculated about welding and argon in the past (e.g., the welding masks)...
There is a "D-style" gas cylinder used for welding such that people do refer to "Argon D"... In case that's relevant somehow. https://www.lindedirect.com/store/product-detail/argon-d/ar-d

[white patrol]

hmmm now tom is speaking of 4 casinos
reminds me of the four symbols

(might also related to las vegs constellations)

[dusk siren]

"Azure Dragon" reminds me of the Studio Dragon offices if one puts any stock in the blue rugs potentially referencing "blue diamonds," possibly the kind that a dragon would protect. Unfortunately, the blue in the rug is pretty distinct from azure, iirc.

[white patrol]

hey are the Azure Dragon of the East, the Vermilion Bird of the South, the White Tiger of the West, and the Black Tortoise

Azure can be Zaraby
Vermilion can be EastWood

other 2 don't match tho

[dusk siren]

Not making much headway on Kara with respect to dragons, dinosaurs, or fossils, though there is the related Kara Crater, which has that meteor strike connection.

The mapped location near the Barents Sea is quite close to the Molloy Deep, but then why not simply put the coordinates there. Anyway, the Molloy Deep is the deepest point in the Atlantic and possibly has 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea-type "sea monster" connections. Kinda weak.

Finally, in Libya, you have the following tentative connections that indirectly touch on dinosaurs and fossils, and which eventually arrive at "Studio Dragon":
Libya -> the coordinates are almost precisely on the Al-Hamra Oil Field, with oil relating to dinosaurs and fossil fuels, and an interesting origin of the name Al-Hamra relating to the color red, iron oxides, and association with The Alhambra -> Korean drama "Memories of the Alhambra" (2018) produced by Studio Dragon, notable for being one of the highest rated kdramas ever, I guess.

Re: Kara, dinosaurs, argon dating, et al.
A curious confluence of details...

[dusk siren]

Curious fact that I'm not sure has been previously noted, but the Hope Diamond has been displayed in the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History for the better part of the last 70 years.

"Azure Dragon of the East"... would be really nice if Dragon Studio was to the east on Skyway.
Probably too much to hope.

[surreal sinew]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQsa54wJvoARKMyw300Kb617d5CYey3cWXtPMgbPxEcRkflg/viewform?pli=1

dont like how it says brought to you by ape squad x The Burrow

the burrw is back

[dusk siren]

Closest thing to a "dragon" sighting near the location mapped NW of the Barents Sea

Xue Long means "Snow Dragon". China has two Arctic and Antarctic icebreaker ships named Xue Long and Xue Long 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xue_Long

"Predator X" was historically associated with "dragons," which was later determined to be a Pliosaurus.
The northernmost mapped location is NE of Svalbard, one of the closest landmasses to the mapped location and where an important Pliosaurus discovery was made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliosaurus#Svalbard

Svalbard has also seen recent discoveries of new "mud dragon" species.

Re: Las Vegas, 3 dawns, possible "ATOM" letters from the Casino names, the star on the Lapis G*randstand sign
Only interesting because I thought Rob said the letters on Las Vegas were an actual Lvl 3 answer (or part of a Lvl 3 answer), and we still haven't cracked it.
"G ATOM"? -> gold atom? (again, less interesting since there has been so much "gold" that has already fgatured in previous passwords).

[ivory oriole]

What is there to dislike?

[surreal sinew]

burrw is a dimond clue thats driving us crazy

[surreal sinew]

ape squad is epic as hell but where was the chest hitting att the major u shoulda done that

[ivory oriole]

😆 we did the chest pounding celebration 100%, probably just wasn’t caught on camera. Appreciate you clarifying, I was like 🥲

Day 1 I was front row with Thiixy leading on the APES APES APES chants. Lost my voice and had to start doing the physical celebration from there on out haha

[surreal sinew]

i was there nexto thiixy im that short ass swedish kid with the first signed can of ospuze and i was holding the mgl rework sign and sitting nexto thiixy u can ask murphy bout me we talked a good bit att the mingle

ig i didint see the chest pound :c

[ivory oriole]

That’s crazy we were within 5 feet of each other then. I was sat literally directly behind Thiixy. I was the tall bleach blonde dude with the suit coat and shiny ape squad pin

[surreal sinew]

oh damn lol well hope u hade a good time there go monkey next year ight

[ivory oriole]

[surreal sinew]

lemme send u a clip that i hit so we dont clog this chat more lul

[dusk siren]

Making me a bit jealous I couldn't be at the Majors, guys.
Anyway, Tengiz is the name of the oil field in Kazakhstan almost precisely where the mapped coordinates are located.
Tengiz is also an important name in Turkic mythology, apparently, referring to the underworld.
The following dragons, Abra and Yupta, protect the lord of the underworld, Erlik, but they haven't made it into the English wikipedia.

[dull marsh]

One thing that got me confused about the coordinates is why they'd need to have 7 significant digits, that's a very high precision.. my instinct is that they're both for locations AND some cipher at the same time 🤔

[dusk siren]

Good point, very good point

G (from starred G in Lapis Grandstand) + Eiger (from Eastwood's Eiger Sanction) + Argon -> argon is the gas used in a Geiger counter...
And we have the association between Las Vegas and nuclear bomb tests

• Sorry to stray from the 'dragon' mission at hand.

[dusk siren]

Before I do anything else, I'll see if I can make and progress on a cipher (though ciphers are not a strong suit of mine)

[dull marsh]

Just double checked, and 5 decimals for coordinates is basically a 1m-ish precision

[dull marsh]

Same, I've tried a few things but I just don't know where to even start

[dusk siren]

There are so many long strings of numbers Rob has given us... kinda crazy

[dull marsh]

Lol don't be sorry haha, any exploration can lead to something, as long as it makes some sense and is not just crazy rambling it's fine 😂

Ouroboros reference?

[white patrol]

Rabbit holes lead you to asylum

[dusk siren]

Funny, just saw that in connection with "gold" + "atom" and "alchemy" (a good example of something with an ancient history and a modern history)

Re: coordinates to 5 decimal places
Perhaps a clue that we could be thinking in terms of surface exposure dating?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_exposure_dating

Glaciers, lava flows, and meteorite impacts seem at least a little promising. E.g., the Kara Sea has associated with it both the Kara Crater and the Kara Glacier, it seems.

[dusk siren]

btw.. the reason I asked about any connection between kitsune and the Kyoto map was based on the fact that this weapon skin always reminded me more of something on the North American frontier, and I noticed a past reference to:
"A short-lived 1964 Broadway musical adaptation entitled Foxy [that] moved the play's setting to the Yukon during the gold rush of 1898. an adaption of Volpone" (posted by Husbandrew)
It just occurred to me that the carved "heart" might instead be a carving of a crude "fox" (a stretch, yes)

Separately, I recall (perhaps mistakenly) there being a path made of small stones on Kyoto that curls off and leads to nowhere. The kitsune is known for among other things tricking people in order to lead them astray.
* Sorry, I spent lots of time on Kyoto thinking about any clues from the map that might lead us to one of the two remaining gold nama tamas, and I probably need to let it go.

I still like the idea that, just as with the nama tama on Monaco, it is the two other treasure maps we have that should lead us to the other nama tamas (the "Masterplan" one for the Las Vegas casino and this other "Lost Legacy" map)

I know someone posted just the other day that we should forget about the gold nama tamas for now, so I apologize for that, too.

[hard current]

I think Hex is likely just a password modifier for this level

investigating some old rob messages, this one hurts lmao

[white patrol]

@hard current I've mentioned this before

this message was eyed, It can mean holiday matters right? I assume rob eyes because rock was on to something

[hard current]

rob eyes things that are "correct"

my guess is monaco is one of those places, and thus the eyes

just proves there are 2 more to find, and more "X" to solve

masterplan markup spray, the leek map

[white patrol]

hmmm

[hard current]

I'm currently investigating Dragons Blood

Draco -> Silk Road/ Incense Road? -> Dragons Blood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incense_trade_route
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon's_blood
comes from the plant Dracaena (or other species)

one of the places where the Dracaena plant originates is -> The Canary Islands
one of our coordinates lies just to the east of the islands

Voyagers to the Canary Islands in the 15th century obtained dragon's blood as dried garnet-red drops from Dracaena draco,

"Owing to their strategic location, the Canary Islands have long been considered a link between Africa, Europe, and the Americas"

poo would be nice if it said Asia though I know why that's not possible lol

So in essence

Draco -> Dragons Blood -> Canary Islands -> Very close to one of our coordinates

could just be coincidence :/

[swift mulch]

So far I feel coincidence, but not a bad find I must say

[hard current]

I wish Rob would give us eyes... the internet is huge, and there is much to look at with so few straight forward connections

[swift mulch]

Agreed. Too many things that could be related one way or another that are not in the right direction. We are swiming for so long now, it's a pain 🙁

[hard current]

heh I see that Dragons blood was used as a pigment, so badly wanted there to be a hex code but doesn't seem like there exists a singular Dragons blood color

[hard current]

I suppose that's what he wants though heh

[swift mulch]

Yup. We're on our own 🙁

[white patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_rabbit_hole

lmao I just learned this term

[hard current]

literally me rn (I'm reading about Draco Military Standards in Roman Warfare)

[white patrol]

I am literally that as well 😭 and I think it's not just us

[hard current]

ok - another crazy coincidence, ready for this? @white patrol

• date on image lead to "Launch Date of Lost In Space"

• Draco studio on skyway - > Draco Constellation

• Northern part of Draco Constellation -> "NGC 6503" -> Nicknamed The Lost In Space Galaxy in a book by Stephen James O'Meara called Hidden Treasures

this is insane man, we could take any of these connections and find meaningful stuff anywhere else 🙁

https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/lonely-galaxy-lost-space/

NGC 6503 is a field[8] dwarf spiral galaxy [dubious – discuss] in the northern constellation of Draco. It was discovered by German astronomer Arthur von Auwers on July 22, 1854.

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1432726959909240923.webp?size=48

we are not crawling out of this rabbit hole

[hard current]

vega mentioned

[hard current]

I'm ngl I don't think so either, my hope is draining heh

[swift mulch]

ngl the hunt did make me read a lot of interesting stuff about space

[gloomy anvil]

https://youtu.be/m0FMk2zUHA0

[alpine junco]

the times seem oddly specific

[swift mulch]

The bus stops have timetables too

[past karma]

You can check #1448403604733034577 for more things on Fangwai :)

This particular train times screen features a train G1337 which might hint to leet-speak encryption

[alpine junco]

reminds me of the Seoul hospital signs leading to a clue

[low escarp]

fangwai city leek map

the compas directions line up prette good with this

[white patrol]

I thought your right hand is holding a minecraft torch peaches xD

[robust junco]

Idk if this is important

Ospuze is vaiiya?

I feel like all sponsors just want control

Everything is about control

[rugged breach]

Another interesting thing about this loation is that it seems to be the center of the map

There's a bug with one of the smgs that I've spotted a few times now, where the last-ish bullet will come from presumably 0,0 instead of the gun

[robust junco]

Also the big center building reminds me of seoul. It has to be opened. Its to bit and center to not notice. Maybe we can get in or unlock something similar to under construction seoul type center building. Bc other parts of map are under construction

[harsh nebula]

“Unauthorized dreaming”

“Certain types of independent thought”

[past karma]

Aha, so the entrance to this building blocked by a wall means something! I wonder if wall bumps play a role too

[wicked zodiac]

Have yall found the 5 gal bucket full of cement with a name carved into the top of it?

[hard current]

Yes!

[dusk siren]

Dragon's blood (= Red?) + Canary Islands (= Bird, to the south?) = Vermillion Bird of the South?

[hard current]

Canary Islands were actually named after Dogs, canis

The bird is named after the island

[dusk siren]

Interesting! Still, we do have the bird now. 🙂

Re: Possible Kyoto map update
Maybe to go along with @gloomy anvil 's idea that the gold Nama Tama was perhaps originally on Seoul and then moved to Kyoto.
Perhaps it's moved again.
Perhaps just part of the Kyoto map optimization, but I say this because many of the individual stones in the foundations of the buildings have been removed. Consequently, no more "heart-shaped" one at the corner of one of the buildings beneath the cliff that I was thinking might be "fox-shaped." It used to point in the general vicinity of the indestructible tree. Indestructible tree is also gone, now. Similarly, I was pretty sure there was a little stone path leading to nowhere around there. Couldn't find that either.

Can post screenshots if it helps, but I think if anyone was still interested in that part of the Kyoto map, the changes might be significant.

If we didn't have five pairs of coordinates, I'd like the idea of four of the locations mapping to the Four Symbols, though. E.g.,

• Kara Sea as the Black Tortoise of the North (kara = black in Turkish?);
• Tengiz, Kazakhstan as the Azure Dragon of the East (Tengiz right next to the Caspian Sea; "azure" deriving from Persian)
• Al-Hamra, Libya as the Vermillion Bird of the South (Al-Hamra = red)...
  Unfortunately, simple pigeonhole problem when 5 locations and 4 symbols

Some notable birds associated with Libya include flamingos (some flamingos are described as having vermillion plumage) and the red kite or milvus milvus (less vermillion, more rusty, it seems to me)

[dusk siren]

This seems really, really promising 🙂

Re: Kara Sea as Black Tortoise of the North
Pretty sure tortoises would have a tough time surviving so far north, but there is tangentially a very interesting species of tortoise known as the Russian Tortoise.
Pretty cool "first instance in space" fact to go with them.

[dusk siren]

Honestly, kinda makes sense to move one of the two remaining gold nama tamas to the fangwai map because the dragon connection is so good. Again, Raid's theory about Rob moving nama tamas when we dont find them soon enough is really interesting, imho.

Re: Zond 5 (Russian tortoises mission)
Zond 5 launched from Baikonur Cosmodrome, which is also where Garriott's geocache coordinates are set from his trip to the ISS.

[dusk siren]

Re: White Tiger of the West and the mapped location near Svalbard, Franz Josef Land, and the Barents Sea (81.75163, 37.16174)
Given the depth of the ocean at this location (near the deepest point in the whole Atlantic Ocean), the best I could find was the idea of biolumiscent deep-sea, cold-water coral for a "White Tiger"... meh
https://www.mbari.org/news/glow-in-the-dark-corals-light-up-the-deep-sea/

A nice CaCO3 connection, though. 🙂

Only 4 symbols, but there are 5 phases (or elements)... hmm

Not a central location (actually the southernmost of the 5 mapped locations), but just on the Sudan side of the Sudan-Chad border, it would need to correspond to the "Yellow Dragon of the Center". There does seem to be a connection between Sudan and yellow (though, probably not the only one, and I'm sure you could find associations with any color, as well). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan_Yellow_3G

Oh, Sudan has vast gold resources. That could be worth noting.

Also, vast deserts.

The "most common insects" in Sudan seem to be mostly dragonflies, at least according to one source (I don't know how rare that is) https://pictureinsect.com/region/Sudan-Country.html

Ancient Egypt included part of Sudan, especially the part that the Nile River flowed through, and my impression is that the dragonflies are connected to the Nile and potentially to Ancient Egypt, as well. Pretty far from the mapped location, though, on the Sudan-Chad border, far to the west.

[severe creek]

im sure im not the first to notice, but there is a new skill tier reward skin called "twilight riptide"

[hard forge]

good find!

[obsidian tendon]

And it’s fire as hell

[hard current]

anyone online and want to do monaco really quick?

need to inspect the map layout

[dusk siren]

Could speculate all day on these, but in case people want to look into any connections, dragon or otherwise.
* Sorry if a repeat of past attempts.

[obsidian tendon]

Has the large murals of the blue and red dragons been discussed? They’re both on one building in the new map

[eager gale]

What is this....
could be a bug or something interesting

[unkempt dune]

Looks like a bug potentially involving a trim sheet

[prime badger]

1/1,000,000 bugs nothing too crazy

[eager gale]

agree
but also weird for a texture bug to appear like this when there is no resemblance of the original texture

[prime badger]

now you know why this game never won the game awards

sad but true lol

[eager gale]

no, it still needs to !!!!
(i have 1.4k hours on steam)

[prime badger]

i have 1k in game hours

but im sure this gam will blow up hopefully

[eager gale]

one day one day
hopefully when they figure out everything
most of the bugs n glitches
who knows they might mass advertise game at a certain season or s10

[dusk siren]

This feels somewhat plausible (would appreciate holes being poked):

• Kara Sea mapped location
• Kara = Black and Russian
• Black + Russian tortoises
• Russian tortoises in space -> Zond 5 -> Baikonur Cosmodrome
• Black Tortoise of the North (Chinese Symbol)
• Richard Garriott -> 1st extraterrestrial geocache, coordinates Baikonur Cosmodrome
• Richard Garriott -> "Lord British" (vague knight association)
• Black Tortoise of the North a Chinese symbol also symbolizing midnight
• Garriott as "Lord British" and Origin Systems "Knights of Legend" (1989)
• Collectively -> Black Knight Nama Tama in Space?
• "xyrr1x2" -> "garriott" / "garri0tt" / "garrit"?

[dull marsh]

I only see Black Tortoise as a remote connection tho, it was never eyed, only 'd

[fresh quiver]

The meaning of "Knight" is missing for the symbol Black Tortoise
or more sometimes "Black warrior of the North"

One of the Mansions is named after Emptiness

Also has a connection to the Daming Palace
And the Daming Palace is connected to the Silk Route

[gloomy anvil]

• things to find (X marks the spot)

• golden egg, golden statue, holy grail (related to above)

• passwords are represented by 19 split into 3 parts

• 123, groups of three (related to above?)

• north america, las vegas, rock n roll

• europe, monaco, arthurian legend

• asia

Trying to cut out as much noise as possible and only focus on very core or repeated themes.

[gloomy anvil]

Rock and roll / Rock of Monaco (cathedral location) / Nama hidden underneath a physical rock

not saying that's a core theme just spitballing now

[white patrol]

Golden Nama hiding under a rock makes me think geocaching, did anyone check the church on geocache app? :3 I can't access it so

[gloomy anvil]

I did a lil bit ago, looked around Monaco for geocaches, I don't think I found anything in particular but always worth looking more

good point about geo and geology

[surreal sinew]

im curios if there is smth in stockholm to find

[fresh quiver]

There are probably atleast stickers with codes hidden. Atleast when rob does rob things

[devout hazel]

hello! idk if its the right place to talk about this but I saw something looking like a dead body on fangwai city

[unkempt dune]

Hold up, wait a minute, Jiangsu Romagna using the ARC Raider's version instead of what was previously used?

[fresh quiver]

Hey, feel free to send me or Atsuhiro a image of it, then we can post it for you

[white patrol]

wait....

[fresh quiver]

Video from @devout hazel

[gusty timber]

that's a normal bug, happens on most if not all maps, I think its just teleporting the body to the origin of the map, I've got a clear video of it on Fortune

[devout hazel]

how strange looking haha, was it a skin of someone in the game?

[gusty timber]

Yes

[surreal sinew]

didint know the finals had ragdoll versions since we all just turn to coins maybe its trailer stuff

[surreal sinew]

100%

[inland hemlock]

we actually have death animations!, that is probably the end of the animation

[fresh quiver]

its not John Ruskin at least 😄

[surreal sinew]

why did this not give me a ping its not yellow thats wierd

[surreal sinew]

nah it clearly is just look att the dissun photo all around him right there XD

[fresh quiver]

there is a slider on the left to notify or not notify a person

[surreal sinew]

wdm slider i cant see it

i have notificatiosn to mentions

[surreal sinew]

is that on a new update or smth

[surreal sinew]

its set to ping

[inland hemlock]

turned it off that time because it was just a fun fact

[surreal sinew]

oh now i see

[dusk siren]

mmm... I was wondering why you used that emoji. thx for the heads up. 🙂

[surreal sinew]

so u make ur response not ping someone

[dusk siren]

If you look at those other chart I posted from further down in the Four Symbols wikipedia article, it shows **"midnight" **next to Black Tortoise-Snake (btw, Snake could be a plausible Serpens-Dragon connection... perhaps even why Rob only 'd it instead of full-blown 'eyes')

[surreal sinew]

wait what message did he do on

[dusk siren]

For Black Tortoise of the North ... the time of day in this source suggests "Midnight"... also, here is an example of a source that has it as Black Turtle-Snake of the North

[fresh quiver]

Heliacal rising, the astronomical occurrence when a star rises and becomes visible over the eastern horizon before sunrise, thus becoming a morning star.

Isnt that something like 3 dawns?

[alpine junco]

blood moon monaco???

[dusk siren]

Level 3: ‘Compass Rose’ idea

I used quotation marks because I don't think the directions would need to be taken literally
The 4 cardinal directions and the center X might correspond to the 5 mapped locations, in addition to the Chinese 'Auspicious Beasts' (with Snake and Bird still potentially dragon-related; tiger, ehhh, not so much, but maybe dragons aren't everything)
Examples of what directions like "NW" and "SW" could represent:

• "NW": The carved weapon skin with the "W" and "N" carved on the mountains; the "fox-heart" carving; possible reference to something like the Yukon gold rush; Foxy; Volpone
• "SW": The "four-letter word" on Las Vegas that Rob said was one of the passwords for Level 3 ("5 letters, 4 letters" Rob said cryptically on the stream)

[fresh quiver]

Based on parallax measurements Beta Aquarii is approx 540 Lightyears away from the sun

I feel. like im burying out a lot of old things today

[white patrol]

wait what???

[inland hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-staring-orange-cat-staring-cat-gif-13724146065807985297

[fresh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-sure-if-its-real-or-fake-wren-corridor-crew-i-cant-sure-about-it-i-dont-know-if-its-real-or-not-gif-24934507

@low escarp some Phosphorus? 🤣😂

[dusk siren]

The "W" and "N" on the weapon skin:

Reminder of the reverse side, as well:

[hard current]

This has been around forever

I’m pretty sure… at least I know it was Monaco or skyway

[alpine junco]

gorgus

[white patrol]

I had no idea :c I know skyway was forever, never seen monaco

[alpine junco]

only on skyway

[dusk siren]

Rob moving things around? (Again?)

[white patrol]

yeah I thought so, so this is new

[fresh quiver]

I dont play often.
But yes. I knew from Skyway. But havent known from Monaco yet

Or on monaco

[white patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

why does this guy look so familiar

I thought he was mysterious guy but no, seen him somewhere here, but I don't remember

oh nvm I'm stupid :3

[inland hemlock]

he is a pretty famous fella eh

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1037531527984185425.webp?size=48

[gloomy anvil]

[white patrol]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_Karl_Gilbert

newyork geologist

[dusk siren]

One of the closer ones 🙂

[dusk siren]

Something you mentioned previously? A very interesting wikipedia article on that. 🤔

[fresh quiver]

yeah... did some wiki linking/chaining again.
Somehow got to Beta Aquarii and then found the 540.
540 was a prior clue

[gloomy anvil]

I would be remiss not to mention that carroll + burrow + warren make 19 letters.

I was hesitant on these three as a group because "warren" has not actually come up directly in the EE hunt. That said, as we've talked about before, it naturally connects to "burrow" and also Warren Robinett (WR), creator of one of the very first easter eggs in gaming.

When Rob mentioned EEs connected to Alice in Wonderland, warren seems a somewhat natural fit. "You have the white rabbits [WR], you have burrow, you have ..."

But idk, I used to be more confident in it.

[dusk siren]

I don't know... this suggests that at least one purported expert translated it as "knight". That would actually strengthen my original theory on the connection to the Black Turtle-Snake of the North, Richard Garriott, and the Black Knight Nama Tama in Space. #easter-eggs message

According to that translation, the Black Tortoise of the North which Rob 'd might actually or also be Black Knight of the North. Maybe it's the latter that Rob was trying to push us toward and what he would have actually "eyed".

[fresh quiver]

I found something again which I dont know if we yet have had connected.
(RZR) 1911 and burrow/warren

Ultimately, the term "warren" was generalized to include wild burrows. According to the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica:

[white patrol]

I don't remember Duck and cover have those smoking effect/burnt texture, nobody threw pyro here btw, this is final round and it's our first wipe, didn't even fight here

[gloomy anvil]

oh yeah I saw this too earlier today, thought maybe I just hadn't noticed it before

[white patrol]

no I think it's a new change, updated with blood moon monaco

[gloomy anvil]

interesting

[rugged breach]

Reminds me of

[fresh quiver]

Raid do you know if we already had that 1911 warren connection?

[gloomy anvil]

I don't think so. I'm not sure if the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica actually has significance for the word though, or if Wikipedia editors just chose it, out of other options, as what to cite for that point.

[fresh quiver]

maybe. who knows.
Its just "another" wild concidence.

[gloomy anvil]

I looked at the encyclopedia but haven't found the part where warren is mentioned (besides this)

[fresh quiver]

I can atleast say its Volume 28. Now I just need Volume 28

Probably will take another look when im home

[white patrol]

[hard current]

I wonder if there are any more early images like this that might point to where the golden namas are

[gloomy anvil]

This made me realize we haven't had any art depicting vegas

We have Seoul though
https://www.thefinals.wiki/w/images/a/a4/THE_FINALS_Wallpaper_CB_Up_We_Go_2880x1620.jpg

[surreal sinew]

wait we dont have vegas i couldv swore i saw it somewhere

[dusk siren]

Reminiscent of the Monaco art with the meteor fragments(?) raining down from the sky?
Maybe worth correlating "blood moon" + "meteor" or "lunar eclipse" + "meteor"?
Gonna get a lot of hits, I'm sure (when aren't there), but this was one of the first things that popped up, even if more than a stretch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7dtYsoUlnc

"Super Wolf Blood Moon"... intense!

[dusk siren]

Except I kinda liked your idea that Rob may have moved them around since then (though maybe moved them back, too?).
Anyway, hope I'm not misrepresenting your idea.

[gloomy anvil]

I just shared that image as it's the only other one showing a specific arena that was posted during the pre-release EE levels. I do suspect Seoul was the original home of the third Nama Tama, but yeah I still think it's on Kyoto now.

[odd sequoia]

I do agree with Kyoto! Although this may be a stupid thought but, I swear I remember seeing a single image of the new map way back in season 2? It was in the like, business district. People were talking about the one street sign specifically. Maybe she’s actually in Fangwai?

[dusk siren]

I'm afraid it's not on Kyoto anymore either... 😐

I posted about some changes I noticed last time I went into Kyoto. Perhaps nothing to do with where the gold nama tama is (was?) on Kyoto, but I thought the changes were strange (no more indestructible tree below the cliffs, for instance, unless it was a fluke when I was in that particular match)

I don't know much about this leek map I see people talking about, but if it's a treasure map of sorts with "X marks the spot," I just wouldn't be surprised if one of the two remaining gold nama tamas is there now.

[gloomy anvil]

I think it's unlikely Rob would've moved it without either telling us or very strongly hinting that he did. I think moving made sense before because level 3 hadn't started when Kyoto released, but it's ongoing now.

[dusk siren]

I take it no official Fangwai art to date?

[dusk siren]

So Rob has either said or hinted that the gold nama tamas are essential for level 3?
I think I used to know the answer to this question, so, I'm sorry to have to ask.

[gloomy anvil]

don't apologize #⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[dusk siren]

thx... well, dang, that's about as unambiguous as it gets. 😆

[dusk siren]

Re: the gold nama tamas

• Rob: "yes… level 3 is all about them… 1, 2, 3…"
• The gold nama tamas, in order, in the official art, are (1) "Hear no evil", (2) "See no evil", (3) "Speak no evil"
• 3-part passwords (ideally adding up to 19 characters)
• Geocache clues theory: Perrott + Perot + Garriott (unfortunately adding up to 20 characters)
• The 3 o's represent the gold nama tamas, perhaps rendered as egg-shaped zeroes (0's; see the clues about "null," etc.)
• Perrott (letterboxing): people write letters, which you can read but not hear
• Perot (author of a book in the original 'OCB' geocache): sealed in a black bucket, inside of which was dark, and in the dark one cannot see
• Garriott (carried the first geocache to go into space): in the vacuum of space, one cannot speak; Garriott also fits "xyrr1x2" pretty well, imo
• Bonus: I still think this links to the Black Turtle-Snake of the North (see previous posts) and Black Knight Nama Tama in Space, and possibly the middle X in the top row of the Level 3 landing page (cuz I'm stubborn)
  Happy to admit that it's not as tight as I'd like, but I have between 0% and 1% confidence that a password might end up being something like:
  "perr0ttper0tgarri0tt"
  Either way, it's no good without any hints at all from Rob, but I think it ties a decent number of clues together.
  Note: In this case, could mean we don't have to actually find the gold nama tamas to get some of the passwords, but better to find them, obviously.

Re: An old theory I never posted about an old clue (could be better though)
Directly from Rob:
(1) Ed Terry Beth (see also "Terry S; Kate N; Beth H")
(2) Dunsmure
(3) Mervin
In my opinion, (1) was solved by @Suri. Check out Costa-Gavras’ film Missing (1982) if you want to confirm.
For (2), I think I found a "Dunsmure" that would fit with a film, theater, and music theme, and also thematically with this whole Big Whoop being a "Treasure Hunt".
John Dunsmure, the actor, played “Slug” Bullard in the Gershwin musical Treasure Girl (1928).
For (3), Mervin could be the musician Mervin Shiner
(1) Ed Terry Beth ---> MISSING
(2) Dunsmure ---> TREASURE GIRL
(3) Mervin ---> SHINER
Parsed like this, MISSING TREASURE / GIRL SHINER, the “GIRL SHINER” part would very likely point to the painting, “The Young Lady With the Shiner”, by Norman Rockwell.
If you look for an association between “MISSING TREASURE” and “Norman Rockwell”, you are naturally led to the story behind his painting
“BREAKING HOME TIES”.
Just one theory of many, I'm sure.

https://www.artpublikamag.com/post/the-sweet-story-behind-norman-rockwell-s-hilarious-painting-the-young-lady-with-the-shiner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_Home_Ties

[plush magnet]

i found it, its actually "Discovery Corp"

[severe creek]

I have a theory about the chroma pad set screen, just not sure which map it would apply (potentially Fangwai since it came with this season?)

with it being a free cosmetic "tuned to frequencies the arena would rather you ignore" and being the only multipad screen showing the jump pad and not TF logo, I think the jump pad is a beacon of sorts, like a metal detector.

when you're choosing where to place the jump pad, it pulses on timed intervals. perhaps on the right map, this pulse might increase if nearby something specific?

or perhaps Vegas for nama?

[odd sequoia]

Not sure how much this helps anything, but it’s an interesting perspective.

https://youtu.be/SQQu57T3PFU?si=rFkR3B2V1nDecHOT

[plush magnet]

that video was very cool

[odd sequoia]

Very much so! It’s great to see more content being made

[odd sequoia]

Wait that’s you!

[plush magnet]

yes it is indeed I matthew patrick

😂 🫡

[odd sequoia]

great video! I love the theory tbh

[plush magnet]

im glad you enjoyed it! I put a lot of brain power into connecting all the dots for that one

[turbid tinsel]

Was this referenced at all yet? matches up with the trailer kinda

https://youtu.be/t1TnHMf_M3g?si=yl1DejUNfnVHTMHk&t=74

[odd sequoia]

Definitely looking forward to more!

[swift mulch]

guy didn't even mention the multico files.. =/

[odd sequoia]

I don’t think I’m actually aware of them, but now I’m curious. Especially after looking through the charms last night and finding the MuCoDos one I can’t read.

[velvet narwhal]

The first images in this thread https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1244010150420021340

the source is the r/cns subreddit

[odd sequoia]

Thank you so much!

[fresh quiver]

Another Connection I just found or just havent found with search in discord:

New York has five major govenmental districts which are called "The buroughs of New York"

buroughs, burrow.

IMO close enough

[unkempt dune]

I think I've seen someone mention it before, but yeah I don't see anything when searching

didn't come up because it's borough instead of burough

[south tapir]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but uh, there's a code under the Tiger Juice can on one of the Ospuze outfits in the sponsor rewards. Not sure if it means anything because I can't make it out well enough.

[hard current]

Wait what was that rob once said about the highres version of the diamond clue

Wasn’t it “higres”

Burrw
Burrghs maybe?

Probably nothing

[versed knot]

Okay so I have a pretty weak knowledge of every easter egg so far, but for a while I have been following information about specifically the roses from a distance for a bit now. I have a theory, I don't know if it has been said before or if it is crazy, but here it is. What if there are no roses that you can find on Monaco (the most likely map for the roses to be of significance), instead what if we need to find some way to trigger them to spawn on Monaco first.

Looking at the wiki, if quoted correctly, Rob said "Roses are available on all maps", but I find it peculiar that he specifically said Roses are available on all maps. I was reading through some chats here today, and months ago someone said Rob said it is the hardest easter egg yet the easiest easter egg to find. Whats easy to find? The roses on the practice range. What if there is some way to get these roses to move from the PR to Monaco? My first thought was "what if I am in the practice range and get queued into a match while holding a rose" but unfortunately you can't be in the practice range while queuing, so my next idea is something to do with the arena generator, but I don't really have much more ideas beyond that. Maybe this is something aswell, including the practice range The Finals launched with 5 maps, could there be one rose for each map?

TLDR: I have a theory that maybe we can't find roses on any map other than the practice range, and instead we need to find a way to get the practice range roses on other maps.

[hard current]

good theory for sure, and imo probably pretty likely considering how many people have scoured the maps!

now triggering them... don't think anybody has a clue at all

maybe it's the generators but nobody knows for sure

[versed knot]

Yeah I have seen some talk about triggering them to spawn in some way, that is honestly probably more likely than this theory. Just a few things when put together led me down this path, such as how it sounds like each map may have its own trigger, which maybe the roses have something to do with that

[rugged breach]

I had a theory ages ago that it involves 4 people dying to water it with blood but can't recall the specifics since it's been so long 🙃

Burried somewhere in rose chat along with an image if you wanna search for it

[rugged breach]

As for the roses, they're available on all maps sometimes, there's a pattern to it as per #1203859365610922036 message

[versed knot]

What if there is a pattern you have to make with the roses in the PR to trigger them to spawn in the other maps?

[rugged breach]

They would perpetually be available in all maps since the pr is

Which contradicts rob's comment

[versed knot]

Does he say somewhere else that they're in maps sometimes? He said "not right now", which sounds to me like they're not in any map until a pattern is unlocked. If we don't know for sure I don't think we should be ruling out theories like mine

[rugged breach]

10/05/24, season 2, they were available on all maps #1211002564015824906 message

That's our only two snapshots

[lyric vale]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what new stuffs are we looking at fellow EEHs?

[dusky sierra]

Those "arena generators" are Monaco only right?

They look so suspicious its unbelievable

[velvet narwhal]

Las Vegas (old), Seoul, Skyway and the Practice Range also have the generators.
not sure if the newer maps also have them

I also think that they are meant for something

[fading vigil]

Monaco has at least one too

[velvet narwhal]

Yeah there are around 10 on monaco. I just didn't list it bcs Siffrin already mentioned it

[fading vigil]

Fortune stadium also has some iirc

[velvet narwhal]

maybe, i don't remember any on fortune

[surreal sinew]

i think in the engimo section or the coutyard in holtow

[hard current]

Should get the arc raiders puzzle hunters over here they solved a new one on the buried city 😅

[odd sequoia]

Has anyone else noticed the Cannons on Monaco now move when fired? I’ve even seen one flipped upside down. I’m guessing bug, but interesting still.
Also good morning everyone

[gloomy anvil]

gm, this is actually intentional, they respond to physics events now

[odd sequoia]

I missed this, thank you so much!

[robust junco]

Let's try to shoot a rose out onto the water

[alpine junco]

does this mean canon ee back?

[surreal sinew]

yo new start is to carry them over to your point with lockbolts right XD

[surreal sinew]

whats that never heard of it

[odd sequoia]

Oh.. my god…that’s evil! 🤣

[surreal sinew]

XD i see no moral qualms

[odd sequoia]

You know, same tbh. I live for the chaos of the finals

[surreal sinew]

fr we love chaos

[plush magnet]

Vaiiya and v7//AX have the same logo

[vagrant mauve]

Let's take this to #📕┇lore

[thorn kestrel]

has anyone properly heard manacos bells if so do they know what the song is?

[lyric vale]

hey I know this is not the right place but I need some guys in private match. I wanna try something with the barricade bug. I can't do that so I need someone who has done this sometimes before. This bug will be fixed tday so before it does, I wanna try a thing I had in mind

I want to place a turret below the flying machine, and make an F-2

[thorn kestrel]

has anyone considered this well on bernal? look suspicously like a pressure plate

[alpine junco]

Never knew there was a well in Monaco

[thorn kestrel]

its by the weird metal shack you can spawn next to while attacking on point break

wait i didnt mean to say monacio this bernal sorry

[surreal sinew]

i always thought it was wierd but never really did anything with it but do the wells on kyoto also have the plates??

[thorn kestrel]

no idea

[fresh quiver]

Theory: a few of the clues we got for L3 are for the ISS. or more specific for the Nodes 1, 2 and. Their names are 1: Unity, 2: Harmony, 3: Tranquility
which could connect with 123 clues.
3 dawns -> 3 sisters -> Zarya was also a ISS module before Node 1 was launched.
The ISS has 6 Common Berthing Mechanism locations. (forward, aft, port, starboard, zenith and nadir)
The 6 from the 6 locations could also be: Hex
Zenith could also be a clue iirc?

Unity was also the primary cargo of STS-88

IF we also use the 457 clue from @unkempt dune #1218999342652981278 message
4.57m is the diameter of the Node1 module Unity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(ISS_module)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony_(ISS_module)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranquility_(ISS_module)

Node-2 (Harmony) also is thermally insulated "goldised Kapton Blanket" aka. Space-Blanket

Kapton is also commonly used as a material for windows used with all kinds of X-ray sources

[granite canopy]

new holtow sticker with a string of numbers, someone smarter than me might notice something

[cold heart]

~~its the same code we got before.. ~~i dont remember if we ever got anything out of it

must be significant though if they keep reusing it

[fresh quiver]

not the same

[cold heart]

oh

[fresh quiver]

new: H3874864791-VRI
old: H5942617857-VRI

[cold heart]

i stand corrected 😅 sorry, ye it is different

[fresh quiver]

i already knew as soon as you said that because i havent found anymention of H3874864791 😂

[velvet narwhal]

was the old one for the sun insurance or something else?

[fresh quiver]

should be. yes

[alpine junco]

oh

VRI = virtual reality insurance
H = Holtow
10 numbers each
38 74 86 47 91
59 42 61 78 57

[alpine junco]

something something

[unkempt dune]

oh yeah, one the whole dragon front.. S, which is like a snake or dragon, is the 19th letter

the dragon on the back of the draco set's upper body is an S

[surreal sinew]

SSSSSSSSSeems like a good idea

[white patrol]

is there any significant to number 19?

[unkempt dune]

it's been used in the level 3 image with rivets and it's the password length for the activation

[white patrol]

okay I see, thanks astu, just found this:

Deneb (/ˈdɛnɛb/) is a blue supergiant star in the constellation of Cygnus. It is the brightest star in the constellation and the 19th brightest in the night sky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deneb

Cygnus looks like a big X

don't know if this has been discussed before

[winter mirage]

was there always 2 moons on Seoul?

[fresh quiver]

cygnus was mentioned multiple times... But Cygnus is a good point again. As it connects things from older Levels that were found. just put it into your serach

[winter mirage]

looking at it now its too oval
however i have no idea what it is

[fading vigil]

deneb can be mirrored

[harsh nebula]

I think thats the namatama mascot in the sky, no theory like it just looks like the egg with the yolk

[severe creek]

ik this number is featured on a lot of things and has been discussed before, but throwing it out there just in case bc i dont think ive ever seen a charm have it, but new chillflake charm has 567478 on the back of it

[dusk siren]

Was just fooling around with the deneb -> Summer Triangle -> Altair, Deneb, Vega idea (which seems promising :)).
Instead, I ended up sidetracked and thinking about "Dawns" again.
It's not yet "3 Dawns", but in addition to the Dawn space probe and mission as part of the Discovery Program (Discovery 9), there was also a Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) space probe and mission named Akatsuki, which translates to "Dawn". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akatsuki_(spacecraft)

Japan's first planetary exploration mission since the failed Mars orbiter Nozomi probe which was launched in 1998. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nozomi_(spacecraft)

🤷

Oh, right.... I think someone just mentioned that the ISS has a "Dawn" module. (Is it this Russian one named Rassvet (Рассвет; "First Light")? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rassvet_(ISS_module)
Not sure if that makes a group of "3 Dawns" that might be relevant, but it's kinda interesting that you get U.S., Japanese, and Russian "Dawns" in connection with spacecraft.
I don't know... maybe someone who knows the history throughout the hunt can help with this.
We've had Zarya (Заря; "Sunrise") as the first ISS module for a long time, and though it is translated as "Sunrise" here, the Slavic figure of folklore Zorya is said to personify "Dawn," as either 1, 2, or 3 entities (e.g., 3 sisters).
When I asked Google to translate "Dawn" to Russian literally, the translation that was given was rassvet (рассвет).

Zarya the "3 sisters"?
Dawn, Akatsuki, and Rassvet our "3 dawns"?
I guess I'm just curious whether the focus on Zarya led to perhaps Rassvet slipping through the cracks.

Curious coincidence about the Nozomi spacecraft and mission, depending on which time zone you use, it could be said that the Nozomi was launched on July 3, 1998, the same day that Danielle Bunten Berry died (highlighted by Rob in the burrw GIF analysis thread). More generally, does 1998 feel disproportionately significant to anyone among the clues to date? Not sure what it would mean if it is, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Bunten_Berry

Probably just another nice homage to a legend, but Danish studio Ghost Ship Games' Deep Rock Galactic (2018, early access) features a robotic pack mule named M.U.L.E., which is presumably named after the Multiple Use Labor Elements, or M.U.L.E.s, that players use to develop and harvest resources in Berry's video game M.U.L.E. (1983).

[wraith karma]

Is that not the ducky hologram?

Or Nama?

[dusk siren]

Re: "MW.Area"?
Here's a Berry game that really stands out for how it was played over modem.
Modem Wars (1988) was one of the early games played by two players over a dial-up modem.
Modem Wars was ahead of its time, as few people in the late 1980s had modems in their homes.
The initials M.W. are probably just a coincidence, but it's one that has not previously been suggested.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem_Wars

[gloomy anvil]

from @unkempt dune

I just realized this myself looking at WRD3HM and wondering why the Right Ascension (RA) of EZ Aquarii was included. The triple star system = 3 connection seems a little weak on its own but having the clue be the RA itself could've been a pointer at both 3 and 19.