easter-eggs

[elder agate]

is this writing on the wall known about on las vegas? or is it even an easter egg lol

[dull marsh]

It is known and we don't know

[elder agate]

[fresh quiver]

with images it can also be seen where exactly this is.

[crisp eagle]

The interactive map feels unorganized?

[worn rivet]

A blinking light on the new year Seoul nap

Map

[fresh quiver]

old & known.

They are there since OB. They are the Building collision lights as fas as we know

like this

atleast thats the consensus what we think they are

[crisp eagle]

does anyone remember what all GRUK led to back in level 2 tier 1D? I'm trying to find it on the masterboard

[dull marsh]

created by the Danish poet, designer, inventor, and scientist Piet Hein
This dude made the superellipse shape, which was a clue for 0vif0rm

[narrow oriole]

there are 4 on a different building to the right too

[crisp eagle]

yes! found it! thank you

[fresh quiver]

yes. due to being colission lights of Skyscrapers.

[narrow oriole]

I can also debunk any (non existent) theories about underground bases, the collision on the right side is a little funky meaning you can see through

[spice lark]

odd that the letters EIS have an offset shadow compared to their counterparts.

[dusk siren]

I wonder if C.S. Lewis actually does end up being something... I got to him just now via Caspian Sea -> Prince Caspian... He seems like the kind of guy that would have tons of potential connections to the clues we've found so far. For instance, I already find him leading to evocative things like "Roman de la Rose" or "Voyage of the Dawn Treader", which don't seem to have been posted about previously (sorry if I just couldn't find the Roman de la Rose posts)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_de_la_Rose
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Voyage_of_the_Dawn_Treader
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis_bibliography

[sharp flame]

Password today.. I can feel it

Ok. Something I want to figure out is the meaning of "S LIES"

There is a space, could be represented by a 0, or O?

SOLIES
S0LIES

[worn rivet]

Season 0?

Was there a motto in s0?

[sharp flame]

REACH.THE.FINALS?

[worn rivet]

Thats a lie then. /s

[alpine junco]

In the next 6 hours

[sharp flame]

found something

https://x.com/4rcu5

x (@4rcu5) / X

X

account is called "x"

follows 2 accounts. One of them is Cybersecurity (!) and the other one is news updates in Swedish (!)

[dusk siren]

I don't remember the "star gazing" thing being referenced in the "Limited Time" mode link, but since I can't wade through all the times people used the word "gaze" in a post, I'll just ask.

Is it possible that the Las Vegas thing is as simple as Glamora -> Argon -> Zaraby -> Eastwood = "GAZE"

* Sorry if this is well known and/or if Rob disconfirmed already.
#1216788595373899877 message

[sharp flame]

created in 2022, which makes perfect sense for when Rob mighta planned this

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_Supercomputing_Center

"a 13.7 Petaflops, ... supercomputer"

137 is EE number (Lvl2)

CNS possibly referencing this: It is expected to host one of Europe's first quantum computers.

[dusk siren]

I can't recall... is the circle in the middle of Las Vegas adorned with anything suggesting a sun? If that map is correct, it is a matter of going clockwise around that circle from Glamora to Eastwood, right?

[sharp flame]

---

NOW.. Guess what the Barcelona Supercomputing Center is called in Spanish:

[dusk siren]

do it...

[sharp flame]

Centro Nacional de Supercomputación

Centro Nacional de Supercomputación

[dusk siren]

boooooom....

[sharp flame]

it's far fetched, so I'd hope Rob reacts to it or something

but it could possibly be another good lead

[dusk siren]

Second IBM-related supercomputer reference since yesterday... fwiw

[sharp flame]

that's a computer reading Marcus wrong I think 😭

wait but how the hell did it get the 4 for "Ma"

[fresh quiver]

very probable

but your connection makes sense for me 😄

[crisp eagle]

#easter-eggs message
Floof and I noticed that too. We had thought maybe the four letters that Rob mentioned there was GAZE for that same reason. We thought standing at the center platform and going clockwise starting with Glamora would give us the password. No dice (pun intended) #1226677330689261631 message

@dusk siren now that someone else is coming to the same conclusion, I'm going to be obsessed again haha

[dusk siren]

Would be nice to know if it led to a password eventually

What was the Las Vegas "stargazing" thing mentioned in that limited time mode thread? Do you remember all the way back to that?

[hard current]

allegedly the 4 letters on vegas literally spell out a password for this level

[dusk siren]

That was my impression, too, but how literal was Rob being?

[hard current]

there was an old clue hidden in the stars in vegas for L2 I think? but rob said it was VERY very hard to find, nobody ever did

[crisp eagle]

yea that's how I remember hearing it too

[dusk siren]

literal-literal?

or just quasi-literal?

[hard current]

literal-literal

I’d have to find the clip in the twitch thread

[dusk siren]

Like if you mashed some cipher stuff together, you might say, hey GAZE = G123...

[hard current]

but he says there are 4 letters on vegas that spell out a password for this level, and they’re big bright and colorful or something like that

oh yeah, not sure if there would need to be any translation or not

[dusk siren]

mmm.... yeah, that's how I heard it on the VOD, too, I'm pretty sure

[sharp flame]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1332758896594387066 Turn notifications on for this thread if you wanna keep up with the main EE hunt! (no posting though!)

this is where all the confirmations will be, and progress

[dusk siren]

So you choose the last letter of all the hotel names and intentionally go in a "Z" pattern and get "ANDY"... surely that's it, right? \s

[crisp eagle]

is that on their profile? I'm not seeing a pfp whenever I go there

[dusk siren]

Can't decide if this is slightly more serious or less serious on the Las Vegas letters, but when you found "GAZE", did you try other starting letters or combinations? I mean it isn't exactly a word, but "AGEZ" does not exactly strike me as complete nonsense either. anyway, thx for explaining the status of the whole "Vegas letters" thing

[crisp eagle]

#1292576119849095210 message
first clip

[spice lark]

This hunt is going to take AGEZ!!

[dusk siren]

Exactly!

[crisp eagle]

the only combinations I tried were
gaze
GAZE
Gaze
geza
GEZA
Geza

[sharp flame]

That is the reddit account

[dusk siren]

If you mash the ciphers again, AGEZ makes for a more interesting number incidentally: 1632... fwiw

This 1632 connection kinda cracks me up. Now I really want AGEZ to be a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1632_series

[fresh quiver]

something with constellation iirc

[hard current]

yes

[velvet narwhal]

A connection between S lies and AiW could be the Cheshire Cat. That cat was voiced by Sterling Holloway in the 1951 animation. It doesn't appear in Chapter X tho

[sharp flame]

I mean in Chapter X alone, both the Snail, and the Whiting (Scaly Friend) can begin with S too..

[velvet narwhal]

Did they ever lie/mislead?

[sharp flame]

Whiting kinda lies about it being safe to jump into the ocean

and Snail kinda lies about it being "too far" and maybe just doesn't want to swim to france where they might eat the snail (actual interpretation of that chapter)

OK

maybe made some progress on something random

@unborn pilot you were on this for a bit, what do you think?

the " <=q " is very neat

9 and q also literally look the same also

9 <= q

a cipher clue perhaps

the CEO's name is Quemby Rutile

[fading vigil]

All this clues looks like Rob creates a super complex way to teach people 1337speak)

[sharp flame]

9uemby <= quemby

[alpine junco]

Imagine if the levels were timed and if we didnt solve the passwords in time we get less and less clues but they are more complex.

[fresh quiver]

your close.

L3 got harder because we took so long for L2 T3 💀

Rob had more time to work on it

[alpine junco]

Lets pretend we only had 1 week for this level

[cursive void]

Are the arcing effects on the generator in the PR specific to that generator? As in, are we able to slow them down, or look at the still image on them to see if they produce an image?

[nocturne furnace]

I think its the same for all generators on any map.

The generator is hooked up to 6(?) Street lights. We only have 5 roses, but I do wonder if - once we place the roses somewhere and then hit the generator to submit our code - whether some of them will stay on

[burnt sun]

submit our code?

[nocturne furnace]

I mean place all 5 roses in a certain spot around the PR

And the generator is basically a submit button for them

[cursive void]

Also, sometimes the fifth rose clips through the ground and cannot be interacted with. Has Rob commented on whether we'll need to reload into an non-glitched practice range, or do we not need all five?

[fresh quiver]

not known afaik

but it seems to be connected to "Jack and the Beanstalk"

[cursive void]

Okay. I'm looking into the mysterious sign on the PR gun range. Unfortunately cannot post in the other chat.

[velvet narwhal]

Is this a 36 for everyone? This is on the pants of the Throttle Creed Set (Biker)
Asking because 36 is my number

[alpine junco]

yup

[cursive void]

Update, the PR firing range sign that randomly appears is most certainly a glitch. If you grapple to it, it tries to launch you to another player's PR.

[pure loom]

A connection between Herodotus and Gryphon (AIW chapter X):

“In Greek and Roman texts, griffins and Arimaspians were associated with gold deposits of Central Asia. The earliest classical writings derive from Aristeas (7th cent. BC), preserved by Herodotus and Aeschylus (mid 5th century BC), but the physical descriptions are not very explicit.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin

[unborn pilot]

Interesting thinking but what did you do to “merge color codes” and get to #3c3d71?

[fresh quiver]

read a bit about 4RCU5 again. (username of CNS)
ARCUS is connected to X68000 from Sharp Corporation.

has a OS named Human68k.
which executables were .X

ARCUS is/was also a proposed X-ray space observatory which was proposed to Launch 2023

[sharp flame]

The midpoint of the two !

[sharp flame]

A few tools online did it. But you can get one of two results it seems

[unborn pilot]

Ah ok. That’s same as the Difference mode in Photoshop. It checks out, 9 <= q is interesting.

[sharp flame]

I mean I did it again and got 3b3d70

since the numbers don't exactly average

which makes me think this wasn't intentional

unfortunately :(

[crisp eagle]

#1318635922350149736 message
I saw on the masterboard where someone mentioned the word "basic" could be important in this message. I know almost nothing of chemistry so be gentle. But I think I keep seeing you guys talking about chemicals/elements. Maybe he could be hinting at basic from that standpoint. like basic rather than acidic?

[eternal violet]

cracking is also an interesting word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracking_(chemistry)

it relates to petroleum (dissun ad), wiki has a refinery image that looks similar to the one from the ad

"In the first decade of the 20th century the American engineers William Merriam Burton and Robert E. Humphreys independently developed and patented a similar process as U.S. patent 1,049,667 on June 8, 1908."

another william (also merriam double r in the middle)

[hard current]

yeah that was me! I was thinking basic like basic coding language but that’s another good direction

[fading vigil]

Did we investigated alt keyboard from the pc?

[dusk siren]

Dude,,, to the people who found and have been working on 4RCUS... we have so many gooooood leads here!!!! 🙂

Isn't an "x-" prefix associated with hexadecimal? Perhaps "X68000" points to a rather large hexadecimal number.
I tried converting 68000hex to binary, and you obviously get lots of trailing zeroes (or dots), but treating the leading "011010000" as morse does (probably coincidentally) give either "ANN", "ANNIE", or my favorite, "ANNE I"

Why do I like "Anne I"?... Well, if I'm right that it might be Anne, Queen of Great Britain, she was the last Stuart monarch... (If "firsts" end up being important, then so might "lasts.")

We also have "ANN BET CHRIS"

That should probably put "ANN" and the top, but the original "ANN BET CHRIS" might also point to "ANNE I" !

[fresh quiver]

we should not follow this lead. This what I said could be probably more lorewise.

We have no clue/connection that X68000 is connected to anything.

IMHO this is not a lead/clue for L3

[dusk siren]

Ah.... now you tell me 😉

Still.... ANN is the first in "ANN BET CHRIS"... I wish it were ANNE, though

[sharp flame]

Definitely possible but yeah not directly linked to the rest enough just yet

[dusk siren]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain

[sharp flame]

haha then it would be a different clue..

[dusk siren]

Sure... but "ANN BET CHRIS" is attached to L3 we think, right?

Elizabeth Ann was the first cloned black-footed ferret... no doubt that is it \s
(nice "double r" in ferret and instance of "black", anyway)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Ann

[fresh quiver]

ANN BET CHRIS

are a clue for HEX.

[sharp flame]

We've already solved it!

[fresh quiver]

please. just look at the miro first.

It will be chaos here soon enough when CNS appears again
I guess @sharp flame can confirm that this will happen 😄

[dusk siren]

How is this "solved"? How is HEX a final clue? How are we sure that's the only meaning?

just curious

[sharp flame]

There are totally two meanings to most clues

[fresh quiver]

not the first clue for hex

[dusk siren]

sry to sound strident

[sharp flame]

but the 2 meanings would probably be ABC (123) and Hexadecimal

since we have an abundance of both clues to back each other up

[dusk siren]

yeah, but if we have multiple clues for hex, then it doesn't seem like hex is the main incremental information from "Ann Bet Chris"
(I saw all those original posts in case you thought I was being derelict in my EE-hunter duties 🙂 )

[sharp flame]

I wouldn't say it's done, either. I welcome more interpretations of the same clue¬!

[dusk siren]

Even ABC (123)... ?

[sharp flame]

I only meant cause the way you said "we think. right?" made me think you hadn't seen the original find haha

just wanted to post it in case you hadn't

[fresh quiver]

Just watch out to not run into a occams razor...

[sharp flame]

sorry for the confusion!

[dusk siren]

Ha! .... I see. my bad!!! 😭

thx

[sharp flame]

I agree though, that Occam's razor is perhaps the EE hunter's greatest foe!

[dusk siren]

also, great reminder that as B in hex... it's actually 11 in decimal, technically

[fresh quiver]

happened to most of us 😄

[sharp flame]

MANY a time we have skipped over the CORRECT password by looking into unnecessary paths..

Mythology, Science, some random event that happened in the 1740s...

[eternal violet]

from my perspective occams razor is hunters greatest friend lol

[sharp flame]

technically all connections, but our "password" will never be as specific as that unless EVERY clue points to it

[fresh quiver]

never

[sharp flame]

only if you embrace it..

[fresh quiver]

due to ocams we took so long for T3😂

[sharp flame]

become one with the razor..

[eternal violet]

yea, not many has embraced it 😄

[dusk siren]

Anyway, where I was going with it was just that in "ann bet chris", if we consider, as a second meaning, just a naive, literal interpretation (or even ABC / 123), then perhaps there is something to Ann ~ 1, Bet ~ 2, Chris ~ 3...

Forget Anne the first or whatever...

[eternal violet]

literally quite the opposite, nobody wanted to embrace occams razor thats why we took 4 months 😄

[dusk siren]

Take Bet ~ 2... If you bet on a horse to finish 2nd, it's called betting them to "place"...

But I do appreciate that we have to be judicious

in how far we push these... 🙂

[fresh quiver]

yea. because we ran into it.
We looked for complex & hard clue.
But they were easier clues

[sharp flame]

Something like that is definitely true, and so could 100% be on Rob's infinity board

the thing is, unfortunately, those sorts of connections will almost never be confirmed

[fresh quiver]

maybe rob shows us his board when we solved L4 sometime in the future....

[sharp flame]

usually a clue can only really be accepted if there are multiple direct links to it which appear in multiple forms

[sharp flame]

god I hope..

[fresh quiver]

The Masterboard is different from his EE Vault at work

[fresh quiver]

do we really? Or do we just fall into depression afterwards seeing all the missed things? 😂

[dusk siren]

At the risk of pushing it... "Ann" might be "annus" (no snickering) or "annum", so "year"...
Then "Ann Bet Chris" might start to indicate a triplet (year, place, Chris)

no, honestly, it remains very unlikely unless we get a compelling interpretation for Chris

anyway... thx for being kind guys and at the same time being direct

It's the way to go trying to collaborate on something crazy like this.

[snow walrus]

There are dozens of detailed PDF publications here especially about Space shuttle programs, Lunar programs (mercury,gemini,apollo), rockets etc..
https://www.nasa.gov/history/history-publications-and-resources/nasa-history-series/

[fresh quiver]

just found this.
Have not read much about it yet. but could fit.
https://www.americanheritage.com/lost-space-what-went-wrong-nasa

But am not sure about this

[dusk siren]

If you guys will permit one last arbitrary idea...
Re: 4 letters on Vegas map

• I was reminded again of this sign that you can catch on Rob's flyover VOD which seems to distinctly show a "V"...
• If you ignore the "Z" from Zaraby (perhaps justified by the fact that it is its own clue), then using "E", "G", and "A", you get: VEGA
• In fact, you could posit that together you get "GAZE VEGA", although according to Rob, it's the single 4-letter clue that's important
• Feels on the nose for Las Vegas, but on the other hand, it would fit with the idea of that event on Las Vegas that purportedly involved "star-gazing" (Vega is the brightest star in the constellation Lyra, which I had to look up, but I bet many of you already knew)
  Relevant images:

Little Draco and Hercules shout outs there... which never hurt?

[fresh quiver]

this thing is absolutely fine. We are glad that some more ideas for that come in.
As we also got a constellation clue for LV iirc

[dusk siren]

I'll have to look up that constellation clue. thx

[fresh quiver]

@dusk siren

[dusk siren]

If he were being super coy (borderline obnoxious? 🙂 )...
Q: "where is the best place to find a constellation in Vegas?"
A: "right there in the word... Vegas... which leads you the constellation Lyra"
I think if it didn't require that intermediate step from Vega to Lyra, I'd be more impressed with the idea

[rugged breach]

Given our sun, photography and "firsts" connections, seems noteworthy to note that vega's the first star to be photographed outside the sun

[fading vigil]

In clubs management, there are no first icon. Icons are numerated from 2 to 13(or12)
But the namatama icon has name: The finals icon
With text: you know who is this
(Or something similar)
Maybe, we should think about Rob as the One and first?)

[dusk siren]

Pushing it further.... Chris3 -> Chrise -> riches (it is a treasure hunt, in a sense, after all)
Then we might find some interesting triplets of the form:
(YEAR, PLACE, RICHES)

[crisp eagle]

Occam's Razor. William of Ockham.
why have you put this curse on me

[dusk siren]

I never fully understood the rules on EEs and skins, but this was "Draco Star"... definitely in the vicinity of Vega and Lyra, but definitely also distinct from them.

I did not know there were 88 modern constellations... someone could have told me... 🙂

[crisp eagle]

#easter-eggs message lol

[dusk siren]

Narrator: Someone did tell him...

[crisp eagle]

all these chats get flooded so quickly it's easy to miss stuff. I highly doubt I was the first to ever say that in here too. especially with how late I came to the party

[dusk siren]

Feels like this might have occurred after Rob completed the relevant part of the hunt, but still maybe interesting connection to both draco and vega. https://www.nasa.gov/solar-system/nasas-dart-captures-one-of-night-skys-brightest-stars/

Sorry... if you clicked through, you'd see DRACO is the name of the NASA telescope camera that took this picture of Vega, but on May 27 2022.

@pure loom Interesting that DART's mission is to advance NASA's capabilities for a future event in which the human species might need to protect against an extinction-level asteroid strike... Sounds like a theory you had once?

Draco Star bundle description: "Trace your future in the northern sky (and may your stars never set)

If the human species were ever extinguished, you might say our stars would permanently set (with the obliteration of our collective consciousness and mental representations).

[fallow agate]

who have we ruled out for the manhunt?

[pure loom]

yeah, I think I linked this to T. rex and asteroids as clues

[dusk siren]

once again... i'm getting too lax searching the thread and checking the miro... my apologies

[pure loom]

no all good - it was probably a passing connection

and also probably went nowhere in particular

[dusk siren]

I just got super excited about your "Big Splash" idea again... It's really your fault 😂

[fresh quiver]

for the portrait?
imo we ruled out a lot sadly 😦

No:

Isaac Newton
Descartes
Faraday
Sir Francis Ronalds
Copernicus
Cassini
willem van der decken
Tesla
Edison
Richard 3
Columbus
Lagrange
Piet Hein
Winston Churchill
William Henry Vanderbilt
Edward Teller
Matthias Corvinus
Sir Thomas More
Andrew Jackson
Buzz aldrin
neil armstrong
John Frederick William Herschel```

[fallow agate]

and Decartes and Hobbes right?

[fresh quiver]

more to follow

[fallow agate]

so mostly weve looked into philosophers i assume? have yall checked for composers or artists?

[timid solstice]

piet hein ?

[crisp eagle]

I keep wondering if it's Descartes. It seems like we keep getting nods to level 2 tier 1D with GRUK (Piet Hein) and 0 (null). Descartes was a clue back in that tier as well

But at the same time, my eyes just aren't fully convinced it's him

[timid solstice]

same birth mark? or face mark

[fresh quiver]

iirc I looked into Hein yesterday. the Hair is off in his images i found

[hard forge]

tbh we will know when we will see image

[fresh quiver]

these looks suspicious like Hair pieces for me. thats what I also look at too. except Jaw etc

[crisp eagle]

The square jaw is really similar to Hein. the eyes stick out to me though. Mystery Man has kinda "puffy" eyes and Hein's are more sunken in

[hard forge]

The picture is definitely from Wikipedia or some similar website

[crisp eagle]

Yea I think once we see the actual picture, there won't be any doubt

[hard forge]

• We don't have enough quality of data to reverse search it.

• Reverse search engines are really bad at searching this type of images and will give you results based on colour and shape.

we will have to use some tricks to get the image.

my hunch is a picture from Wikipedia probably in black in white

[crisp eagle]

I honestly didn't even think/know about reverse searching that haha

[fresh quiver]

added the last names I checked on the list. I prolly have checked more. But thats everyone that got named in the reddit thread:(

[hard forge]

basically google image search

[fresh quiver]

you guys could double check to make sure...
But I doubt its anyone of these names

[hard forge]

we can try to reverse search based on the description

[crisp eagle]

I don't wanna. I want to click links for days until I find something haha

[hard forge]

it's not accurate enough so you will be still doing that.

[vale spoke]

Have you guys considered not looking at portrait photography but paintings of a larger scene on wikimedia

[fresh quiver]

we are looking at portraits at all. Not only photography but paintings aswell

[vale spoke]

Okay nice

The lighter element behind the head makes me think it's part of a bigger piece

[fresh quiver]

if only portrait you dont specify if painting or photography

[hard current]

hm, I think we can use our other clues to find this guy

It wouldn’t be someone entirely unrelated to what we have

[fresh quiver]

yeah. Maybe ill do that tomorrow while having homeoffice.
WHEN he is probably connected to a clue we might already have gotten in the past. I mean.. how hard can it be..

[timid solstice]

I was wondering if he was Richard III then a Shakespeare connection

but looks older and no hat

[crisp eagle]

wait. Myster Man fits the art style (imo) of our boy Jan Matejko

[vale spoke]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Matejko_Self-portrait.jpg/1280px-Matejko_Self-portrait.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Jan_Matejko_-_Portrait_of_Fryderyk_Czartoryski_-_WGA14660.jpg

[fresh quiver]

Matejko does not fit. hairline diffrent. Has beard and wrong looking direction

[fresh quiver]

Hairline does not fit of Czartoryski.

[hard current]

did we ever find the importance of this guys signature being in the iseult pic?

[dusk siren]

I thought it might be geographic

[crisp eagle]

yea I don't think it would be a self portrait if Matejko did the painting. His style just really looks like that to me

[hard current]

have we tried dividing all of our images so far into 9 pieces (rule of thirds)

[hard forge]

no idea

[fresh quiver]

I looked through the Portraits he painted ._. compared a few that look promising. No match 😦

[crisp eagle]

yea same

still looking around a little bit just in case. He's got a lot of people in some pieces

[hard forge]

flex maybe re creating the image may provide some better results?

[sharp flame]

JUST DID

Sven had*"his book Från pol till pol (From Pole to Pole)"*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Earth_(2006_TV_series)#Episodes

"From Pole to Pole" is Season 1 Episode 1 of Planet Earth

the "Beginning" of "Planet Earth" 🤯

[cold heart]

...on (the channel) BBC One

and it has 11 episodes 😭 holy - nice one Fish 🔥

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/prequel-memes-chosen-one-the-phantom-menace-star-wars-gif-16537933

[sharp flame]

Ok. There are multiple clues to do with "1st" or "Beginning".

Multiple clues to do with 1, 2, 3

[hard current]

and hex

[sharp flame]

Multiple clues to do with 0, emptiness

[crisp eagle]

Where did we get 11? I'm falling so behind haha

[cold heart]

just shocked from the amount of number ones is all, ahha 😅

[crisp eagle]

Don't get me panicking like that! haha

there's also Planet Earth II and Planet Earth III

[fresh quiver]

Tbh. I wanted to sleep. But wanna add 1 thing 😅

Doesn’t he has a bit of similarities with Indie?

[crisp eagle]

Haha dude he does!

I’m sure this is common knowledge, but I just want to say it’s interesting how Level only uses characters that are part of hexadecimal. The tiers always stay within A-F

[fresh quiver]

Addition to Palin; co-wrote and starred: Monty python and the holy grail (1975), the meaning of life (1983)

Other notable films: JABBERWOCKY (1977)

[hard current]

is it dumb to think that maybe we need to figure out slies

and the way to do that is alice in wonderland chapter x

chapter x has both askance and porpoise in it

would it reason that... slies is in it too?

[dusk siren]

This is fantastic... Fish on 🔥

[sharp flame]

Monty Python is a real good connection

seeing as L3 started with the Black Knight

[hard current]

mmm that one might be a stretch considering planet earth III came out in 2023 (potentially after/during rob building this hunt)

[dusk siren]

I know in my heart of hearts it's not him, but I finally realized who I've been thinking that anonymous guy looks like. Richard Burton. Maybe the idea that it could end up being an actor is not outside the realm of possibility, especially given that extremely stern expression.

[hard current]

it could be an actor, we generally start with scientific/mathematical/historical first just because we've had so much luck

[dusk siren]

No, I think that makes way more sense

[hard current]

it could be anyone

[dusk siren]

I just felt like he seemed particularly familiar (whether Richard Burton or a different actor I've seen many, many times), but if everyone else didn't get that kind of vibe, I'll chalk it up to a false association.

[dusk siren]

Good point... I'm not sure we need the I, II, III for it still connect to our map and what is it, I don't know, 10 other clues at this point? More?

[hard current]

just spitballing here

in aiw chapter x, the word porpoise is used as the word purpose
we have then purpose, askance (to look sideways) and slies

is there some way to combine these ideas? (I know we're not gonna get a password this way, but may be a bigger idea to s lies as a whole)

[alpine junco]

Pole to Pole
Magnetic Poles
Kinda resembles the burrw gif

[crisp eagle]

John Cleese (Monty Python) was in two James Bond films as R and Q

[dusk siren]

Guys, pls do not look back at my rabbit hole ramblings, but I connected the Earth's polarity and magnetism to volcanos and tectonic plates a while back... I definitely think there could be something there...

[still mango]

Face in the dissun trailer. Hidden on bottom right.

[hard current]

#1332285869574590515 🙂

[hard current]

I'd agree only we haven't had anything volcanic/magnetic related found in prior clues

all of our clues eventually point to each other/the main themes for this level

[dusk siren]

They're from the mapped coordinates... Also Bernal

[hard current]

hmmm true I guess bernal

[hard forge]

we have some better images now. but don't know who that is.

(also the "trailer" is misleading it's the official art)

[dusk siren]

I re-upped my wacky notes at this google docs link in the "Level 3... Coordinates" thread. Read it at your peril... but it discusses, among other things, the coincidence of at least 2 or 3 of the points with tectonic boundaries... https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTiYTvSU_zO13h6aCMa6m_xkJHFDdp0m0LzDnUqQKsGVNveqDE9WmGq8QoMlCFfJTsZUPgza3LyF38z/pub

[alpine junco]

Magma restaurant on vegas has lights that were a hint to Kyoto 😅

[hard forge]

interesting

[hard current]

I should specify, I meant in our images so far 🙂

[dusk siren]

I really don't want people to think I'm making a big deal out of it.

Just that this sudden "pole to pole" thing (literally echoing the periodic flipping of the Earth's polarity over geologic time) and OIL's image definitely rang a bell

I did also make a tenuous connection to ΙΘʹ (both in the screenshot and also the number 19)

Meanwhile, we had this image....

Bearing in mind that we've been talking about a map of the Earth and the Earth as a sphere... this was more or less my speculation on at least one other connection at the time (anything further I will put back in Rabbit Holes):

• The person in the first message linked above identifies a part of the image that he interprets as a circle with an 'X' in it and even wonders if it signifies “X marks the spot" (and maybe it does), but what if the screw actually represents a circle with a positive sign (+) in it? Not quite the circled plus symbol (⊕) but that symbol will do.
• Earlier in the thread, a person pointed out that ΙΘʹ was both in the screenshot and represented the number 19 using conventions in the Greek language.
• Also, note that in the image, the oval of the theta in ΙΘʹ is actually stylized as a circle, and while it is technically closest to a circled dash (⊝), I'll use the circled minus (⊖) for consistency. So does ⊝ represent the Earth and its equator? Could the Θ or ⊝ also represent a negative polarity?
• Finally, is it at all significant that if you shift the "Ι" in ΙΘʹ, into the theta's circle, you get ⊕? A change in polarity?
• Incidentally, could we imagine that the ' in ΙΘʹ is a bit like a satellite above the Earth?

[sharp flame]

definitely good things to consider

"x" has come up quite often

but first let me announce another connection!

C15H23N5O6 = Fibroin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibroin

[dusk siren]

Ha!... I found the Val-Asp-His thing, but didn't go further! "Silk" would be something beautiful. Did you guys have a silk clue back in the day?

[sharp flame]

Fibroin forms Silk Fibre

Sven Hedin's book the Silk Road, was the first book about it

and.. Look at the Fibroin page !

Fibroin = Silk I, Silk II, Silk III

🤯

[hard current]

123 again...

[sharp flame]

what a neat connection that ties it all together

[dusk siren]

Just to wrap up the Richard Burton long-shot, his most interesting roles were either 1984 (been meaning to look for room 101's in any of the maps, incidentally) or playing Thomas Becket.

[dusk siren]

Fantastic

[sharp flame]

holy crap

[dusk siren]

The images from Thomas Becket look closest to the face we found in rob's image

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Becket

[hard current]

I'm starting to think rule of thirds was not hinting at dividing anything, mightve rather been a clue towards "3" or 123

[sharp flame]

Val-Asp-His(tidine) = Histidine -> Sven Hedin (1)
Val-Asp-His = Silk -> Sven Hedin (2)

Rob you are insane

two different Sven Hedin's in 1 clue 😭

[hard current]

check #1332285869574590515 I think cade pointed that out too!!

[sharp flame]

why not? 1, 2, 3 are 3 separate parts

[dusk siren]

Once again, I'm bidding you guys adieu for the night confident that you'll have this wrapped up by the time I wake up tomorrow.

[hard current]

yes, meaning rule of thirds was pointing to 1/3 2/3 3/3 or 123

[dusk siren]

It's been a pleasure and honor

[hard current]

not necessarily dividing an actual number or anything

[sharp flame]

no! I'll go to sleep so that it remains unsolved when you get back!

(I say, confidently)

[sharp flame]

but I don't see why 1, 2, 3 might refer to having 3 parts of something

like Planet Earth Part 1, 2, 3

we should assume that neither possibility is discounted!

[hard current]

well we have 3 password tiers each with 3 parts that end up in (my thoughts) locking in 3 coordinates

I'm crying over here rob can't we just reduce this all by 2 🥲

[dusk siren]

Always some intrusive thought...
Anyway, I didn't want to say anything at the time, but unless you guys already figured out what the following diagram on the whiteboard represents, that image definitely reminded me of the tectonic plates connections I felt like were in the mapped coordinates. Tenuous, but still...

[hard current]

just realized, two clues in our most recent image point to geographyt

hero.us and piet hein "gruk"

[alpine junco]

What if each column of passwords is like this:

A B C
1 2 3
I We Who

or
A 1 I
B 2 We
C 3 Who

[hard current]

I was perhaps wondering since everything on the miro is pointing to 123

what if.. what if all 9 passwords are just different ways to say 1, 2, and 3

no way right

[crisp eagle]

“Fibroin (CisHaN;06) is made up of two components viz., crystalline and amorphous. In crystalline component, amino acids are present in a definite manner with a definite space and the glycine residues repeats with other amino acids in the ratio of 3:2:1”

it doesn’t stop haha

[crisp eagle]

Alright so I wonder if we need a 3rd haha

[vale igloo]

hey im a little out of the loop - but is this true?
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1i9pj85/season_6_cns_confirmation_hidden_in_the_new_art/

as in CNS returning in season 6

[fresh quiver]

look who made the post 😉

[vale igloo]

i did 😅

[fresh quiver]

It’s our fish 😄

But yes. It’s a high suspicion. The last 2 official arts we got had CNS Metadata

[vale igloo]

no offense to fish, but it's more speculation than definitely confirmed, right?

i've seen the CNS metadata too, but I don't feel that confirms anything

[fresh quiver]

Not confirmed but highly likely

Lorewise We would have not gotten CNS metadata when CNS really was vanished by vaiiya

[vale igloo]

ahh yeah thats fair

[worn rivet]

I tried 1 2 3, a b c, A B C, I We Who and i we who

Nothing

At least in one of the passwords

But if i tried all 9 and none worked it should've worked

[velvet narwhal]

We are trying to manifest CNS by saying they are coming 🙏

[worn rivet]

I know a guy who's good at summoning them

[fresh quiver]

I already manifested it 😂

I called it a day in advance before they appeared on metadata again hahahaha

[fresh quiver]

Hi 😂

[velvet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[fresh quiver]

Also Rob talked some weeks ago. How is he making ascii and „suddenly it made CNS ascii artwork“

[shy oracle]

RETURN OF CNS?!?! LETS FUCKING GOOOO

OH MY GOD YES

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-cns-gif-11410068275437731636

[worn rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/4jvrs1-cns-gif-15146102

[fresh quiver]

We all pray for it.

Our The operatives are just waiting to reveal themself again

[shy oracle]

..::We've a̶l̶w̶a̷y̸s̴ been ⱧɆⱤɆ...::..

[dull marsh]

Yeah, it's more like CNS involvement with S6 seems highly likely in some way, but not clear to what extent

[dull marsh]

Bro gonna make people have seizures

[earnest juniper]

or maybe end of S5, they say that cns likes the bigger events. still have the sponser showdown to do!

[dull marsh]

I think there are still 2 weeks left after Sponsor Showdown ends, so... 👀

[earnest juniper]

im excited for whatever is instore, i didnt start playing till mid S3, so i missed it all.

[dull marsh]

They'll be back at some point anyway, there is probably a lot more story to be told about them :))

[fresh quiver]

@proud minnow hey sorry to ping you.

But was it intented to have "Sven Hedin" & "Sven Gustaf Hedin"? 😄 just to make sure we look at both

[worn rivet]

New gen🫵
/s

[dull marsh]

I'd assume yes, it's not the first time we see stuff like that iirc

[worn rivet]

Would organizing clues into something like this be possible already?

I feel like this could help

[dull marsh]

Well it's easy once you know where it all lead

We don't know what is primary, secondary, ... so we are actually trying to figure that out 😅

[velvet narwhal]

I think it could be helpful if we were to group every clue connected to 1, 2 ,3 together.

I think the clues connected to 1 are for area 1, etc.

[worn rivet]

I'll just start with the 3/trinity clue, add things that lead us there below

And then work my way down

I won't sort it to tiers yet

[carmine trench]

What happened to the padlet stuff for all the clues? I noticed it all went missing from the pins.

[dull marsh]

We moved a lot of it (although not all of it yet) to the Miro board

[carmine trench]

Oh is that a better app than padlet?

[dull marsh]

Much much better imo 😅 The link should be in #egg-hunt-onboarding

[fading vigil]

At least if you’re not using old MacBook Pro 2017)
(My workhorse, miro got him to 90degreesC)

[dull marsh]

Oops 😅
It runs okay on a 2019 one tho

[fresh quiver]

Imagine how long robs miro takes to load 😂

I just notice it sometimes because my browser hangs for some seconds

[dull marsh]

I'm not to worried about Rob having beefy computers tho 😄

[fading vigil]

On my main pc it runs ok, also it runs ok on m1 air

[dull marsh]

7th

[dull marsh]

Lol someone asked what week of the season we were on

Either they deleted or got bannished out of this server 😄

[velvet narwhal]

We won't know if it's EE or bug until Rob confirms it

[crisp eagle]

#📕┇lore message

I had a similar thought, but during the showdown.

[low escarp]

was looking for some random connections to hex #1332758896594387066 message
and saw this with the dissun car video it kinda fits

[low escarp]

this ones abit of a stretch but "star formation" sun/stars have alot of connections in the hunt

and that lead me to The Spitzer Space Telescope, formerly the Space Infrared Telescope Facility (SIRTF)
(sir the finals) hehe
it was the third space telescope dedicated to infrared astronomy 123
wasnt titan a hint somewhere i forgor

[crisp eagle]

So far it’s looking like we’re getting clues pointing to 0 (null), 123, and paths/passages connecting two points right?

[hard current]

and hex

gotten a bunch of those lately

[dusk siren]

One of the mapped coordinates is in Libya... Was going back through my notes on that, where I went down some rabbit holes, but one of the most basic facts about Libya is its capital city, Tripoli. The actual coordinates point to a location that seemed best identified as the Al-Hamra oil fields (which ticked "red", "black", and "oil" boxes for me), but Tripoli seems like a perfect "3"-connection.

[junior moon]

what's the newest thing for us to find

[hard current]

9 passwords, check out #egg-hunt-onboarding :))

[tawny kraken]

Is this website was discovered already? https://www.holtow.com/search

[fresh quiver]

this is the default SquareSpace search page.

it has nothing to say

[junior moon]

9 whole passwords? lucky me

which one is the password one

[rugged breach]

Here : https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level3
Password to enter that is sliescetaceaasconce

[fresh quiver]

I recommend to read through every resource named there.

The page with the passwords is named TFEE Level 3

[crisp eagle]

Thank you haha I don’t know how I forgot hex. Trying to keep the current big hitters in my head while I read. Everything’s happening so fast right now. Not used to this phase of hunts yet

[junior moon]

we're still on level 3?

:C

[fresh quiver]

yes

its 9 passwords. what do you think

[junior moon]

man i was homeless last year and it was tfee level 3

[fresh quiver]

we have got none of them yet solved

[junior moon]

jeez

[hard current]

I think back then it was the activation page

now we’re on the actual hunt

[junior moon]

i appreciate it's this involved but like

wow

[fresh quiver]

we already crossed 5months mark 😄

[junior moon]

gotta get code breaking mode in my head

still makes me excited

[fresh quiver]

also you should check out the miro board with all recent clues. under the L3 board

[junior moon]

wait do we not have a single pass for tfee lvl3?

[fresh quiver]

nope

[junior moon]

jeez

that's embarassing

we're much better than this

[fresh quiver]

nah its not. we have just not enough connections to make a password out yet

[junior moon]

do we know if it requires gameplay much

or can i brainstorm constantly without launching the game

[fresh quiver]

you can

[hard current]

couldn’t tell you, it might, the activation page did but we haven’t noticed anything specifically in game as of now

[junior moon]

i remember sharting all day long combing the woodry on monaco and finding fuck all

scouring for little monkeys

[fresh quiver]

but yeah. we found the monkeys. was also hard work

[junior moon]

damn right it was

[dusk siren]

Found this guy via "Bernal." Referred to by at least one author as "the first anthropologist." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardino_de_Sahagún

[junior moon]

im really good at bridging non-normal connections like the above but lord am i shit at bringing it all together

[fresh quiver]

miro board

[junior moon]

luckily i used to work in game dev and am at least slightly familiar with miro

ty samras

[fresh quiver]

this section under "Level 3 - THE HUNT"
we put everything there which we got from the last images and more clues

[junior moon]

literally re-mapping the brain

'yeah, we're uhh.. just putting together an easter egg'

shoutout to robert

my fave legionaire

makes me giggle like a schoolgirl

[worn rivet]

U seem fun lol

R u a og?

[junior moon]

lol

[hard current]

just fyi if anyone is interested
we solved almost nothing in #1318635922350149736

[junior moon]

what's the gist of this one

yay i got promoted

[velvet narwhal]

check the pinned message in that thread

[crisp eagle]

I kinda forgot that one exists hahaha

[velvet narwhal]

it's out of date but should have most of it

[hard current]

you’d have to checkout the miro tbh, I’m working from home rn, but there’s a lot of clues noted on the miro that have no connections rn

[junior moon]

posted over and over again on my main yet somehow this one

the miro is a shitshow of interconnected somethings or other

tbh

[fresh quiver]

It resembles the whole hunt. we just started to color the things correctly.

[junior moon]

my biggest issue with the miro is that there's no obvious way for a newcomer to contribute

like im cool with commentary threads but they arent even particularly causal

hi impervious!

i used to talk to you when i had access to my old discord

i thought you were my friend's cat

[hard forge]

you can suggest in #1269468076940853248 what you want to add

[junior moon]

😐

oke ill get myself together again

[velvet narwhal]

I wonder if rob ever hid an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autostereogram in one of his images 🤔

[junior moon]

im sure he did

man is a fetishist for cryptography

[fresh quiver]

thought that also some more times.
But im not sure. Autostereograms/stereograms typically have a pattern you can kind of easy spot imo

[hard current]

he has sort of, in one of the cns images there are 9 cns’s scattered across it, and this is one of the best ways to see them

[worn rivet]

Maybe that pattern that appears when u overlay the dissun and the vaiiya image

[junior moon]

have they rewarded you guys

like getting the monkeys together, did you get rewards

[crisp eagle]

Only the dolphin charm so far. Most things just lead to new tiers/clues for the next steps

[dull marsh]

In the image noise? Wouldn't be surprised

[hard current]

does anyone remember that one website where you can give it input and it spits out a TON of different translations at once

I used it all the time a year ago but don't remember what it was called

think it's colors were like blue and white?

[velvet narwhal]

you mean this one? https://cryptii.com

[hard current]

mmm not quite

this one you had to scroll down quite far to view everything it gave back to you

[velvet narwhal]

I'm not sure.. https://www.dcode.fr/en can give multiple translations at once but that's not blue and white

[hard current]

r.cade shared it with me

https://www.cachesleuth.com/multidecoder/

I'm looking at the miro and going back to try and figure out some of these clues we haven't connected yet

I am stumped

[sharp flame]

lol it happens

[velvet narwhal]

Is it right to assume that
MW.AREA #1 = Europe
MW.AREA #2 = North America
MW.AREA #3 = Asia

oh it could also be that the first row is europe
the middle row NA and last row asia. If you look at the parts that are visible

[fresh quiver]

you can suspect it. but not assume. MW1-3 could also just be numbers 1-3

[empty plaza]

Rose EE solution?

[fading vigil]

If we had some kind of sound that “tells” you done something right..

[empty plaza]

I’ve yet to try this method I made, I’m at school

[crisp eagle]

Herodotus travelled and documented the Royal Road which went on to serve as an integral part of the Silk Road.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Road

https://www.livius.org/articles/concept/royal-road/#:~:text=This road continued to the,been invented by the Persians.

Also RR

[dusk siren]

"skynet" obv makes me all of us think of Terminator... Rob's TmX also had me thinking of Terminator recently.
The T-X (sometimes referred to as the Terminatrix) was the main antagonist in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines from 2003.
"Machines" and the recurrence of "3" is slightly reminiscent of the DISSUN entity's "Machine Trinity" symbol, but mostly everyone is probably mostly doubting the TmX -> T-X connection...

The best I can do is "em dash" = "—" ... unfortunately the em dash is the long one. I don't have access to the original source of "T-X", but the fact that it was probably an en dash (-) likely rules it out...

Sorry if you guys solved "T-X" already. I also like the speculation I saw where it was TeX... Donald Knuth would be a connection to both "TeX" and "senidenary" ... if that hasn't been noted already

You know... if T(en dash)X were something, maybe TnX leads to something useful? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNX_(disambiguation)

[crisp eagle]

“pirradazis” has double r in it

Another New York link

[hard forge]

can you tell me

can you tell me how you did it

[hard forge]

this is the closest i could fined

so i am thinking 17-18th century

i am taking a break from this guy before i go crazy

[fallow agate]

Why does he look like the doctor from doctor who

[rugged breach]

Keep in mind how I did it and how you properly colourise an image are two completely different things. It was a mega rush job to help with recognising our mystery man

1. Got a rembrandt painting with a guy vaguelly matching the angle and lighting. (Helps a lot to nail what colours that period could capture)
2. Gaussian blur (enough to destroy any edges our guy doesn't have)
3. Adjust as needed (fix overflows, position, etc)
4. Check which blending mode works best

[plucky kettle]

ermmm 999 health??

ik bug prolly but fgunny

[sweet thistle]

This is a bug.

[willow bluff]

I wanna say caesar or brutus

grr it looks so familiar for some reason

[dull marsh]

Looking at the "morse" code on this spray _..._... ..._.._..

First part: _..._... = 10001000 = 0x88
Second part ..._.._.. on dcode shows that there are 123 combinations for morse

Could be random, but weirdly we get 88 relating to STS-88, and 123 relating to Alice in Wonderland 🤔

[dusk siren]

pretty good, though... interesting connections

..._... is STS, isn't it?

[dull marsh]

Putting it in reverse and moving one dash from one group to the other gives STS TITUS

(I think TITUS was a clue at some point in other levels)

There are Sts Timothy and Titus (often grouped together)

[sharp flame]

found one possibility:

DRIVEL

as in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonsense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabberwocky Possible link to Lewis Carroll?

[dusk siren]

You guys were all over the "Milky Way -> MW.Area" connection a while back... The "88 IAU-desigated constellations" idea eventually led me to the wikipedia page below. This image (map?) from that page made me think suddenly about @hard current 's obsession with the "rule of thirds" (which maybe was already a legit clue)... I think we're all definitely into all things astronomical these days.
Anyway, you guys figured out something about the "3 dawns" that I saw... what if... we overlay 3 different "maps" on the landing page (perhaps one simply being the mercator projection, lined up according to the clues across the top of the page)? A "map of the constellations" like this might be another one of the three maps. Then we only need nautical.
If we wanted to push it further, maybe use the "rule of thirds" on each of these maps to generate 3x3 = 9 regions
Something like:

• Civil map: an aligned mercator projection
• Astronomical: some aligned map of the designated constellations in the Milky Way
• Nautical: TBD but something befitting...
  One final speculative step: Perhaps each password is actually another combination of 3 'sub-passwords' like in the previous level, one from each type of map. Then the 4-letter Vegas answer would be "the answer," as Rob said, but not the whole answer, which maybe Rob's remark would still allow for...
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_designated_constellations

The 3 dawns might almost be literal in that case... I don't know yet what "Right ascension" means, but it suggests a 24 hr cycle connected to the constellations. Each of Europe, North America, and Asia will experience distinct dawns. Nautical... ???

[hard current]

Iirc nautical, civil, and astronomical dawn was eyed by rob a long time ago

[sharp flame]

I ran 80k possible combinations, and only this was the result

[dusk siren]

btw - just like "Lost in Space" was a show, with all those cool coincidences @dull marsh and others found (e.g., 3 seasons), I ended up on a tangent about "2032," the year of the Las Vegas map, and stumbled on this show: seaQuest DSV (which was renamed to seaQuest 2032 in its 3rd and final season). DSV = "deep-submergence vehicle." Some of our mapped locations are simply out in the ocean, several along tectonic plate boundaries. If I can find a suitable nautical map, I will continue with this line of thinking, but not till then. Still, I think the idea has some promise...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaQuest_DSV
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-submergence_vehicle

Seoul is set in 2018? If so, that would be the 1st season of seaQuest DSV and connect to the continent of "Asia." Las Vegas was the 3rd season of seaQuest DSV and connect to the continent of "North America." Unfortunately, Monaco 2014 doesn't fit the pattern... 🥹
btw - There is a SeaQuest Zoo & Aquarium in Las Vegas.

[burnt sun]

seoul is set in 2023

[dusk siren]

🤣 🥲 mb...

[hard current]

correct me if I'm wrong but we've got two legendary passages mentioned so far

northwest passage
silk road

[dusk siren]

very nice if true... 🙂

[dull marsh]

One actor from Lost in Space also played in Zorro

And Zorro is obviously costumed in black and rides a horse, so potentially a "black knight"

It also is a character that inspired the creation of batman

Zorro sounds pretty close to "zero"

Has RR in the middle

[dusk siren]

yeah... it's very nice

[dusk siren]

If we needed "passages" for all three thirds of the map, there are probably some good candidates... better to wait for clues, I suppose (I was thinking of the Trans-Siberian Railroad, though, just as an example of the thought process)

[hard current]

try that password pookie 😉

[dull marsh]

And that was the flag of California back in the day the Zorro story takes place

[dusk siren]

Vega sighting, fwiw...

Another instance where I feel like the Driving Crooner... "This has to be it. It's gotta be."

[hard current]

@dull marsh no dice on zorro in password

[dusk siren]

Yeah, but put me in the camp of people who think we will end up with longer passwords... Zorro could just be one-third in the end. 🙂

[pure loom]

yeah, I think it's either late 17th or early 18th century... unless it's just some dude who likes being unfashionable, then we're screwed.

[dusk siren]

I would add that the work the image comes from is likely from a later period... I'm no art historian and I admit to a biased sample, but I was going through artworks in the Met, and for that style and detail, I think it might be 19th c. at the earliest.

A bit why I wondered if (a) it was a photograph or frame from a movie and (b) it was an actor playing a historical role...

[sharp flame]

you missed a lot...

#easter-eggs message

2 years ago I went on a crazed Vega hunt

[fresh quiver]

fish is us 2 years in advance...

But rob is still fish 2 years in advance 😛

[sharp flame]

because Vega lined up with 1064, 79, 137, Zorro, Zero, etc.

[dusk siren]

An additional thought on the "3 sub-passwords" idea... When Rob says "xyRR1x2" is a password... you just put it in and voila. Perhaps as with the "4-letter Las Vegas" clue, he might only be intimating that it is part of a password (perhaps even the format for the same part in all 9 passwords)... Then "Zorro" might somehow be the "xyRR1x2" part of one of the passwords. Perhaps even the "land-based" or "civil" part, positing that the passwords might come in combinations of "nautical-civil-astronomical" / "ocean-land-space"

[sharp flame]

It lined up with Poles, everything

[dusk siren]

Yeah, but this is how it all comes together... 🫡

[hard current]

correct me if I’m wrong but… didn’t rob say vega would be important eventually

maybe the four letters rob is talking about is the loading screen for vegas.. it says vegas

[dusk siren]

I still think "VEGA" is the "4-letter Vegas clue" (for now... only to be disappointed later)

Of course, no "eyes" is the "moment" of gradual disillusionment and disappointment

[fresh quiver]

he did

[hard current]

hm not sure if vega pertains to our current level, nothing seems to point to it but no telling

[dusk siren]

Truly awesome how you guys remember those old posts... I'm in awe

[fresh quiver]

we use the search function. everytime

[dusk siren]

yeah, but you remember to search...

[fresh quiver]

in:easter-eggs from:rob_embark <thing you want to search>

[dusk siren]

Genius!

[hard forge]

these guys are iNSANE

[fresh quiver]

TmX

[dusk siren]

Anyway... so, Zorro, huh?

[fresh quiver]

no clue

[fresh quiver]

but I also remember some messages from rob that it would be time yet for this and this clue. or do I have this wrong in memory?

[hard current]

No you’re right, Rob said it wasn’t time for vega iirc

it still might not be considering we haven’t had any clues/found any connections to it

[dusk siren]

Roman Emperor Domitian was named Titus Flavius Domitianus at birth and was Emperor in 88 AD

[fresh quiver]

no no. I meant other clues too. But I cant remember if he actually said that to other clues

[dusk siren]

The Dacian War seems like it was an important period of Domitian's rule, which is dated to 86-88 AD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitian's_Dacian_War

A stretch, but not that difficult to get from STS-TITUS to STS-88 if one were motivated to do so.

[fresh quiver]

what did we get out this again?

[dusk siren]

If I had to guess at a "nautical map" (though, no one asked), I think this might be the one I'd go with.

Motivated by some of the mapped coordinates among other things... (example: one of the locations lies almost exactly on the Mid-Atlantic tectonic plate boundary, which is clearly visible in the map above.)

I thought maybe there was an "as above, so below" clue, but this was the only Rob mention of "below."

fwiw... when I mapped the coordinates, I became somewhat fixated on the idea that some of the locations were coded to fruits... maybe eventually something

that was an old @sharp flame post...

That map of the sea floor is apparently called a "Bathymetric map" if that rings any bells for anyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seabed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathymetry

[gloomy anvil]

is it bad that I never noticed Rob said this

wait I literally replied to it #easter-eggs message

[fresh quiver]

me neither

we forget so much what he said...

I was just on a streak searching for "time" and found that again 😂

[dusk siren]

Sort of silly, but if we did want to line up continental landmasses to those landmass areas, it seems like we would have to mirror the map...?

Pretty goofy, but I guess you never know.

[fresh quiver]

why would we need to mirror the map to get the areas from the continents we got?

[dusk siren]

to line them up... It was Europe, North America, Asia along the top of the art work that they came from?

pls correct me if I'm wrong...

[fresh quiver]

just try to don't think around 3-4 corners at the same time. but 1. This helps to get some things more straight.

[dusk siren]

Fair... That is a few steps ahead... I suppose we don't need to worry about aligning the 9 passwords anyway. We can just try entering in them all in the end

[fresh quiver]

thats what we doing the whole time. we want to try a password? -> We try it on all 9 slots.

[dusk siren]

yeah... no doubt

[fresh quiver]

If we figure 1 password out we probably can see it a lot clearer what to do

[dusk siren]

the only benefit I can think of is at least having that potential geographic link which may change what we think is an interesting direction to head in...

[fresh quiver]

thinking around 3 corners is dangerous.
You just will be caught in your rabbit wholes for days or weeks.

[dusk siren]

True enough... If we did have to combine passwords, it might still be relevant. Checking all combinations (imagine 9 sets each of cetacea, asconce, and slies) could become much more difficult

[fresh quiver]

if I understood that correclty. you just got from the year of LV to a submarine. From which you went to a bary map. Which you are now trying to tie with L3.
We should work more on all the clues we already got or just think 1 corner further.

But thats just my opinion.

[dusk siren]

I look at the Miro and Latest News thread but it doesn't seem like it can contain all the different strands that seem relevant at any moment. A lot of us just aren't on the right wavelength... kind of feels like only the people involved in the eyed posts would have it all in their minds. E.g., what are the clues we already have that you think are important to work on right now? Honest question. I'd be happy to pull in the same direction as the team.

[worn rivet]

@fresh quiver do we have any statutes on Kyoto?

[dusk siren]

To be fair... just because clues didn't lead to anything in the past, doesn't mean they aren't clues that we already have, right? We can't assume they're dead ends either.

So take the continental landmasses... you guys figured that out, but then what... ?

Same with the mapped coordinates?

So anyway, I kind of thought I was working on clues we have, but admittedly, maybe not the ones people currently have top of mind (which I can't know)

[fresh quiver]

Golden Namatamas / Lost Legacy

[fresh quiver]

the clues top in our minds are all on the miro board probably.

problem just is that we can't conclude from a Quaternary clue to a primary or secondary clue.
If we as example already have a Secondary clue. It would connect to primary & tertiary clues.
Think we would need to work step by step.

[fresh quiver]

TFEE_QUES & TFEE_TION had the dimensions 1149 x 635

The second expedition of Hedin resulted in 1149 pages of map

[fading vigil]

https://ibb.co/Z10Dpfy
kyoto - was already?

[crisp eagle]

lol if you know, you know

[lavish meteor]

so how its going ester egg hunters?

[crisp eagle]

slowly but surely 🫡
how's lore going?

[lavish meteor]

lore going good ,With the DISSUN new trailer but its slow

[lavish meteor]

they say the red thing is not oil its something else

[crisp eagle]

the ol' Redstream. We've talked about it a tiny bit here, It's been one of those things I keep on the back burner in case we need it, and then I'll lurk lore from time to time haha

[lavish meteor]

haha one embark employ gave us a clue about it ,when we were talking about oil running out in the future ,they said it can be something else

@crisp eagle any clue about the mad Scientist secret room on sys horizon? i wanted to jump onboard but watching the ester egg guide how hard it is and rob saying its impossible ,i gave up the idea

[fading vigil]

Mad scientist?

[ornate quarry]

Hey has anyone figured out the Sys horizon secret room?

[crisp eagle]

We've got a thread going for it here https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1315046366417915994
I don't believe anything big has been found yet, but I'm not super involved with that one at the moment. I jumped on with RHB, Frosty, Thorineich this past weekend. still stumped haha

[lavish meteor]

I cant remember clearly .But rob said in stream something like ,it was a mad scientist lab.

[crisp eagle]

i think they are just referring to the "science is fun" quote haha

[lavish meteor]

ow cool maybe those puny cheaters would help us here lol

lol imagine if some clueless sledgehummer player already found it but was busy distroying building.

[keen ravine]

uhh we didnt find anything smashin that map

[dusk siren]

A potentially useful meaning of** "cracking"**...
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10649773

[crisp eagle]

haha from what I remember, Rob told us it's almost impossible to find

[dusk siren]

Assembly is one of the most basic levels of abstraction at which a computer is defined

That particular article refers to x86 assembly... x86 as a hex value could mean many things...

• Hex -> binary -> morse: DEAN, BETTE, DIME, DUN, BAN, DIG, BEG, TSP, NIP, T4TE, T4N
• Hex -> decimal: 134 -> MD, ACD, IEA, LEA... -> IEA -> International Energy Agency ; ACD -> acid, related to basic
• ASCII/Binary of 0x86: † (dagger)
• Unicode of U+0086: SSA (Start of Selected Area)

[lavish meteor]

bro believe, its impossible but its not hard

[lavish meteor]

you didnt smash enough

[dusk siren]

Different angle...

• Nama Tama in space filename: "THE_FINALS_I_Want_to"... with speculation it hints at "I Want to Believe"
• Rob says: "BTW I believe...," which potentially points to Nama Tama in space
• Suggests cracking, so perhaps cracking Nama Tama, an egg
• Starting pretty basic -> egg whites are alkaline or basic (pH 7.6-8.2)
• Something that starts with egg whites... just as an example: meringue

This is notwithstanding Rob's regular use of the other, reverse engineering meaning of "cracking" I highlighted just above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_white

Obviously tons of potential connections from that egg whites article, but here's a tantalizing connection to "photography"
* Note that the photography connection was mentioned all the way back in '23, but just a reminder.

Given you guys did a ton of work on the food-related eggs, I think the computer-related cracking feels more likely for this one

[lavish meteor]

what type of help u need?

[lavish meteor]

by cracking did he mean game craking?

ow i chould have helped but im tired haha

[dusk siren]

could be... the article I linked to was about cracking assembly more broadly, but it might be more specific than that

[lavish meteor]

cool , rob speak in puzzle never direct

[dusk siren]

Anyway, looking at the Miro... appears it was one of the relatively recent clues from Rob still hanging. Those are the only two ideas I have for "I believe... cracking... [and] basic" at the moment

[lavish meteor]

no idea what ur talking but it seems this channel is more active then the lore one. its dead most of the time

[dusk siren]

This was a helpful explanation. Thx for taking the time. 🙂

Now, having said this, sorry if this is jumping ahead, but "mma" is something many have speculated on, so...

• Recently many here have focused on the recurrence of "ABC123". I'm slow so didn't connect this to the indexing of the 3x3 array of passwords
• I think "mma" is very likely indicating 3-part passwords for 1a, 1b,..., 3c.
• I think the strongest connection so far would be from "a" to "astronomical," meaning there is an astronomical component to each password
• e.g., this could be what makes skynet 1A and/or skynet 1B a good test case since it would point to the "a"-part of either mma-1a or mma-1b
• No need to jump ahead, but given that we (i) have mapped coordinates both on land and in the middle of the ocean and (ii) a pretty strong clue in nautical, civil, and astronomical dawns, I'm putting this forth in good faith (e.g., marine?-mainland/mercator?-astronomical)

"From Pole to Pole" would literally be going down a map of the world from top to bottom.

[cursive void]

Gadies and lettlemen, how the heck do i level up to post in the other chats?
Anyway, isn't the image in the Lost Legacy map piece an image of the cashout box (prior to opening the vault)? It could be a building that normally holds a vault.

[pure loom]

just keep posting messages - but don't spam to do it or the mods will come haha

[cursive void]

Appreciate it, will do!

On Kyoto, my theory is the tower with the bell is the location for the Lost Legacy X, and may require special interaction with the lightning rod.

[pure loom]

that's a decent idea

[cursive void]

There's another lightning rod on Pogoda, but we weren't able to triggle any effect from interacting with it (have not tried defib, though).

[cursive void]

But a door on the base of that bell tower seems like a suitable spot - there is a lantern where the door would be.

[dusk siren]

Based on the description of Zorro's character (especially in Mamoulian's version of the The Mask of Zorro, in which Zorro is played by Tyrone Power), this bundle description definitely feels like a potential reference or homage to the character ('Zorro' meaning 'fox'), with the focus on "deceptive grace"

Compare:

[lethal wedge]

can't upload the pic, but was there anything of note about the date looking thing at the beginning of dissun car video? the one that looks like a vertical yyyy/mm/dd in red dots, on the right side of the screen

[dull marsh]

That was also spotted by @unborn pilot last night, it's a great find

[dusk siren]

One other thought about "I believe... cracking... [and] basic," inspired by your idea @dull marsh that at least one instance of xyRR1x2 would be "carrl", along with your observation that we have the null symbol "∅" to work with...
If "I believe..." does point to Nama Tama in space, then Rob's post could still be a reference to cracking an egg and not cracking a computer program. In that case, the role of "∅" might be like a metaphor for "cracking an egg", and the empty set (∅), might be interpreted as one of the most basic entities in set theory. (If I remember an early iteration of the philosophy of mathematics correctly, one proposal was to define the natural numbers using only sets involving the empty set as the basic element: 0, 1, 2, 3... <-> ∅, {∅}, {∅,{∅}}, {∅, {∅}, {∅,{∅}}},...)
Implications:

• Knowing you want "Carroll" and "xyRR1x2," your initial idea of "carrll" might be the right one (I'm guessing you had in mind that "∅" was a sign we could "cancel" the "o"). The only other sensible alternative I can think of is if the password can include non-alphanumeric characters, in which case it might be "carr∅ll" instead.
• Wondering if the same applies to "Zorro." Was thinking about alternate interpretations of "1x2" which might make Zorro viable if it is also an "xyRR1x2" clue and searched for "Zorro II," imagining it might be a sequel, but I think something even more interesting might have popped up, which is the Amiga Zorro II... Among other links, we get a "68000," which I believe we had a connection to recently, and the Amiga 2000, which seems like an echo of the VAIIYA 2000 series chip and the DISSUN 2000 logo at the top of the recent video. Supposing this was another such clue, we might still have to consider whether the result should be "zrrII" or "z∅rr∅II" or something else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Zorro_II

[dull marsh]

Damn that actually sounds like it could be something 🤔

zorro ii = z rr 11 = xy rr 1x2

[pure loom]

Can you please link that?

[dull marsh]

here you go

[nocturne furnace]

From the MultiCo document on r/cns. It reads Civil, Nautical, Astronomical. Now I know that they are different phases of dawns, but what if they also represented future maps for CNS?

Civil -> Museum -> SysHorizon

Nautical - underwater themed perhaps? Or perhaps on a boat.

Astronomical - space themed

[fresh quiver]

we can't tell until we get some more infos about IF even cns comes back for S6. And then also we will just see if we get more teases / map reveal

[fast frigate]

did anyone identify that face yet

[fresh quiver]

nope

[fading vigil]

Nope
A lot of ideas, but nothing exact

[fresh quiver]

we only ruled people out as of now

[fading vigil]

Yesterday was mentioned “albumen photography”
Looks familiar from Kyoto, right?

https://shibui.com/products/japanese-photography-11

Also, those lightning rod is there too

[dull marsh]

Feels a bit like a stretch, it seems like albumen photography is just a technique, and that pagoda exists in real life, it just happens that those two do combine but I don't feel like that's a very solid connection :/

[fading vigil]

I’m still just learning how to develop ee sense)

[fast frigate]

can someone post a high res picture of the guy?

[dull marsh]

Hehe don't worry, I'm just being a bit blunt about it but don't let that stop you, it does take time and it's still a good idea

[fading vigil]

I’m still giggling about Easter eggs and namatama is egg)

[fresh quiver]

we dont have a highres image of the dude

the images we put on reddit & have here in discord is the only res we have

[dull marsh]

The image we have currently is extremely high res compared to the data we're working with 😭

We are literally chasing a ghost in terms of opacity

[sweet thistle]

And you guys were sad to "only" have to mess with exposure..

[dull marsh]

You should have a crack at it, see if you can get a better image, I know you do a few Photoshop things, you might be better than us

[mossy wedge]

Has anyone noticed that at certain times there’s shooting outside the map with bullet traces coming into your area in Practice range?

[alpine junco]

The practice range is a shared server

[mossy wedge]

I know, it doesn't answer my question. I played for about an hour across three different sessions and I noticed some bullet traces that look the same as the ones coming from dummies. They seem to be coming from a park area

I don't think that three times in a row i ended up with the same user in my lobby using out of bounds bug and shooting with dummy traces

Maybe it's a bug where the dummies just start shooting at random available opponent dummies after they kill their own even if the new one is outside of their area

[low escarp]

#1243224234675802135 message if u wanna add the computers we mapped those

[jaunty basalt]

what's up with the numbers on the uniforms changing?

certain outfits... have numbers that seem to change ?

[fresh quiver]

everyone has a unique number for them.

How they get calculated? We dont know

I think i have 27 on my outfits which have this feature

[jaunty basalt]

yeah but why then change? they change depending on how/when ur looking at them (for me anyways)

[fresh quiver]

never saw that myself that they are changing. Can you provide a video?

[jaunty basalt]

maybe u need the doplhin charm equiped or somthing?

[jaunty basalt]

ugh... not rn now tho, I thought it to be something u guys would already know about... seeing as you dont , I will try and pay better attention and record video the next time im running a stream etc... cbf rn

and note the numbers, Ive seen 1, 33 and 9

(I think others a while ago)

[fresh quiver]

Atleast I myself have never seen this behaviour. Even with and without Dolphin Charm.
So a provided video next time it happens would be great

[jaunty basalt]

ok bro, Ill try..

[rugged breach]

Assuming the changes all haopen when playing from the same setup, right?

[jaunty basalt]

yes

[jaunty basalt]

alltho I change outfits a lot, but everything else is pretty samey for me

[rugged breach]

I mean whatever you're running the game on

[jaunty basalt]

steam, but pretty sure it's the same on xbox which I occasionaly jump on too

ill let u guys know

[rugged breach]

Gotcha, been wondering if it was ip based for a while

[fresh quiver]

Weren’t they capped at 99 or 100? Never seen a number over 100 iirc

[snow walrus]

nothing related but Black Knight name similarity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Horse_(astronomy)

[rugged breach]

Same, 00 or 01 to 99

Can't remember if someone mentioned they're 00 a while ago but I'm sure we've had 01

[hard current]

i’m in office today and got volleyball this evening so yall are sure to find something today 👀💙

[hasty anvil]

#1332648610311049287 message
quick connection to hex board game eyes:
It also has profound mathematical underpinnings related to the Brouwer fixed-point theorem, matroids and graph connectivity.
Brouwer theorem connects to Euclidian Space ( maybe hidden room connection)

[crisp eagle]

no it won't be today because I stayed home haha

[hasty anvil]

#1204475718747029535 message
Hex / hexagons also link to some old theories on Saturn's hexagon on the North pole and other Euclid stuff

I finally have a day free so I can have some fresh eyes over our stuff haha

Thinking of what obvious and easy clues we have had recently:
#1318635922350149736 message Cade found YYYY/MM/DD, same format as FIND PSW: XXXX-XX-XX. This was an easy clue to find.

DIT DAH DIT - (.-. = R) . Rob's signature, easy to find, links to our (rr) clues. #1332648610311049287 message

} - Overlaying DISSUN and VAIIYA reveals curly bracket #easter-eggs message

To me cause these were the big clues, that makes me think we can group them as 3 seperate passwords

There's a lot of different languages:
Hex, morse, binary, ancient ( I we who) , ...
(different language for each password?)

[dusk siren]

it's funny... I thought maybe that semi-hexagonal 'flare' next to the I-seult guy in the most recent I-seult image might be the hexagon on Saturn's north pole, but now that you mention "north pole" and "hex"... this feels strong! I want to... believe.
* Similarly the elliptical shape in the same location, wondering if it was something like the big red spot on Jupiter...

[hasty anvil]

Saturn was big for a level 2 password and i'm sure they will have some part in this too

Also we had big Pluto and 9 planet hints, there must be some big solar system hint to something

[dusk siren]

Yeah, the "from pole to pole" clue adds another check in its favor

Well, we just had Lost in Space, and their ship was the Jupiter 2... 9 planets... 9 X's on the Level 3 landing page...

You could argue that Saturn's hexagon is a "spot" and "X marks the spot"... Jupiter's big red spot... um is a spot, I'm pretty sure

[hasty anvil]

Hmm a password per planet would be cool

There's a big section on the miro for Saturn with 0vif0rms password

[dusk siren]

Rob saying "Pluto IS a planet" feels like potentially the biggest hint yet that this could be a good correspondence

The idea of the existence of a Planet X is a whole other thing that may or may not link

[dusk siren]

Thx... will check it out! ❤️

[hasty anvil]

Looking at miro, Saturn has blue auroras on the north pole, Ångström studied Aurora borealis, yttersia = northern lights 👀 #easter-eggs message

also calcium spectral lines 👀 weren't used #easter-eggs message

Also also, some of these could be in game unsolved ee related.
Hidden room, Skyway red moon, ...

[hasty anvil]

@fresh quiver
The Korean finger counting system Chisanbop uses a bi-quinary system, where each finger represents a one and a thumb represents a five, allowing one to count from 0 to 99 with two hands.

That convo was to do with player numbers right?

[dusk siren]

"From pole to pole" and the diagram of a magnetic field makes me wonder if listing the relative strengths of the magnetic fields of the planets, including Pluto, would turn up interesting numbers. One source suggests that Pluto might be the only one of those celestial bodies to have little to no magnetic field.

[hasty anvil]

Actually that reminds me of the model on SYS where the magnetic poles are inversed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus

[dusk siren]

These planetary fact sheets (which you guys may have been relying on already for a long time) have tons of quantities, including several related to magnetospheres https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/planetfact.html

This page claims to summarize several of these quantities for the planets including Pluto based on those fact sheets https://www.astronomynotes.com/solarsys/plantblb.htm

[crisp eagle]

weird. I never thought about magnetic fields. looks kinda like Burrw

[hasty anvil]

We had earth's aphelion as a clue before

[hard current]

don’t forget guys there’s a lot of numbers and stuff in the images that hasn’t been solved yet, way easier to make connections if we have everything!

especially in #1318635922350149736 almost nothing was connected there

that’s where rob said we had to solve more stuff

we can do all the theory crafting we want in the image threads but we’re working with only half the deck

for all we know some of the theories ARE valid but we don’t have a strong connection because there’s a lot still unsolved

[dusk siren]

good reminder, thx

[low escarp]

i dont have the skills but has anyone tried overlapping the 2 dissun images by lining up the sun logo

[rugged breach]

Hah, did just now, Powe i powe's pannels are crooked whereas poweris poweris poweris's are straight, good shout!

[lavish meteor]

how do u open this? wow it got downloaded in a sec

[rugged breach]

You need photoshop or some other photo editng program that can open psd files

[gloomy anvil]

• S = Hearts ♥️ --> Queen of Hearts (AiW), Rob's heart clues, S = 19
• X = Clubs ♣️ --> Jack of Clubs Black Knight (S1 trailer), X
• A = Spades ♠️ --> King of Spades (S1 trailer) --> King A --> King Arthur?

could also mention the Matrix Club for X

[lavish meteor]

i have afffinity 2 will that work? no way i gonna use virgin photoshop

[hasty anvil]

Diamond like diamond clues then

Completing the set

[rugged breach]

Not sure, affinity's vector based iirc. If it can open psd files then you're good to open it but probably gonna be limited with what you can do since it's not a photo editing tool

[lavish meteor]

yeah gonna try it with that

[crisp eagle]

I got it to open with GIMP. tis free

[lavish meteor]

gimp is chad

[rugged breach]

Yeah gimp's goated

[surreal cobalt]

hey guys im new here but does anyone have any clues on the five roses ee ive been working on it and ive figured out that the potassium nitrogen and phosphurus are all elements that make plants grow and the fi fi fo fum part is ofc referencing jack and the bean stalk

[gloomy anvil]

[crisp eagle]

I don't know what that means haha

[gloomy anvil]

nothing on my goat https://www.photopea.com/

[rugged breach]

#1203859365610922036 You'll need to level up to post there, that's where most rose work is happening

[lavish meteor]

like this

[crisp eagle]

haha is the fish emoji good? I'm old

[surreal cobalt]

oh okay big thx soo leveling up is just chilling in calls and being in the server right

[gloomy anvil]

the fish is there cause of the eyes emoji

[lavish meteor]

@gloomy anvil yeah the goat

[rugged breach]

Yeah, first level's pretty low xp, join a conversation in some chat and you'll be able to post in threads in no time

[crisp eagle]

oh ok does it mean "these eyes are not rob" haha

[rugged breach]

"Bait"

[surreal cobalt]

big thx man i got soo many ideas about the roses

[gloomy anvil]

yeah, Fish used to do fake eye reacts so people started using the 🐟 emoji for him, which naturally evolved into the 🎣 emoji with its other meaning

[rugged breach]

Speaking of, does the script filter through non-rob eyes?

[gloomy anvil]

did I get my tfee history wrong

[hard current]

you can’t fool us Fish I was there put me on the stand

[fresh quiver]

ofc. fish would never do. these days fish gets the eyes 😄

[hard current]

we’d get so excited to see eyes and then it was just Fish eyes 😭😂

[fresh quiver]

But to be fair.
You guys should try to reduce the 👀 reactions to 0.

Raid this emoji is fine 😄

okay. BACK TO TOPIC.

[gloomy anvil]

I just had to flex all the eye emojis

[hard forge]

@fallen jasper

[fresh quiver]

back to topic NOW

@tired aspen can we get the last lets say 10 messages cleaned up?

some people tryto be funny here

[tired aspen]

just restart the convo after me

[sharp flame]

eye see

[hard current]

eye agree

[sharp flame]

III = could represent three 1s

if we go by Counting Rods or Roman Numerals

🧠

[fallow agate]

IS HE JOHN MILTON

[fallen jasper]

yeah we are tiny indeed

[neat solstice]

It’s a Lie algebra

[fading vigil]

does the 3hm is totally solved? in miro there are 8th and 9th places for monkeys

[hasty anvil]

we solved 7 of 9 i think, we only needed 7 to progress the main EE

but there's 2 more

[fading vigil]

https://ibb.co/XZtkr513
I've tried to investigate the map of monkeys.
What i've got:
Green lines - 0 monkeys
0-1-2 - number of monkeys in row\column.
As we can see - it`s kinda of pattern of the monkeys placement, and we have possible 3 coordinates of last two monkeys (dark blue stars)
the light blue stars - shows alternative places (def not all possible solutions)
IF the pattern and my logic is true - we can mostly know where to search

F2,F3,E7 is also possible

[crisp eagle]

If I’m remembering correctly, we only needed the 7 we found for the password activation page. Each season brings two more 3HMs and they are just for fun at this point and not required for anything else.

[cursive void]

Realized today at work the Lost Legacy icon has almost identical mountains as the Boise Aspen 30 paper box mountains. Lol

[fading vigil]

https://ibb.co/VY4v5tNV
this blocks appears after demat. Is it known?

[dusk siren]

I just had a semi-horrible thought... 9 passwords in Level 3. You guys don't think we're gonna end up needing the other two 3hm's for that, do you? 🥹

[fresh quiver]

no.

imo not

[dusk siren]

Took yours and @hard current 's advice and tried to make some progress on those DISSUN images today. Maybe somebody finds something useful there.

[crisp eagle]

I wonder if word ladders are going to be mixed in these clues somehow. They've been brought up briefly before. Created by Lewis Carroll and they are a game of connection two words, one step at a time. Kinda like our game Hex that was eyed recently, where you connect two points one move at a time. Just a random thought.

[sharp flame]

k wait a min

[flint hare]

its been a minute

[fossil jewel]

Lmao

[crisp eagle]

yea that theory got thrown around a little bit when we got that ad. I'm hoping we do

[daring bluff]

dissun goes to space, humans try to colonize, vaiiya AI goes rogue on the spaceships and takes over everyone living in space, tries to "fix" people back on earth by sending down robots called AR-

[iron bridge]

... ._. is "SR" in Morse code

[dusk siren]

Anybody note this Herodotus connection to oil (i.e., petroleum) via wikipedia? Was actually thinking about the mystery dude and how it was in this DISSUN image. If this series of dark red DISSUN images and videos is in significant part a reference to gasoline, oil, petrochemicals and the like, perhaps Herodotus being one of the first people to make a record of the use of asphalt is relevant.

Anyway, maybe the mystery dude is/was in one way or another also connected to the history of petroleum or the oil industry.

"Asphalt" is a song by the Hot Country Knights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Country_Knights

[sharp flame]

SR is all over the game.. we call him Saint Rob..

[dusk siren]

Interesting trivia about the role of bitumen (aka, asphalt) in photography and painting, including oldest surviving photograph from nature (not quite a "first" technically but close.

I'm going to start pointing anymore of these connections to Herodotus back in the thread where we first found him, which was that recent I-seult image.

[unreal jetty]

Yooo he's been doing Morse the whole time

[unreal jetty]

He has literally been saying SR in Morse for over a year

[fresh quiver]

He has saying it almost since the beginning

[unreal jetty]

... ._.

[fresh quiver]

IMO we don’t need a SR Thread.

[unreal jetty]

I mean I made it a thread so we can filter the tiers EE from others such as this

So have there been hints towards spheres that have been unsolved since the beginning?

Like any images or caps letters that y'all can remember?

[sharp flame]

we have far too many threads

[unreal jetty]

Idc I'll just do it myself no prob

[dusk siren]

Re-upping this... we've had the hex and Ø clues lately and it seems like benzene was one of the first, if not the first hydrocarbon discovered... since hydrocarbons might be in play in the recent images. If you search the thread for benzene, there are the mentions of Michael Faraday among other interesting things.

Was hoping Michael Faraday would be the guy in the image, but I don't think so. My other idea today was Gary Cooper, but like Richard Burton, it just doesn't fit. I'm almost becoming convinced again that it is a painting and not a photograph.

What do you guys think? The ghostly face in the Dissun image: painting or photograph?

Wonder if that old** "H2Oh So Cute"** description could point to hydrocarbons... H2O -> hydro, C -> carbon, S -> sulfur, a notorious component of petroleum
* I start to feel like "cracking" in the sense of breaking down hydrocarbon molecules, is becoming more plausible if any of this is right. More "basic" elements would be alkanes and alkenes?

This image just popped up in the right column of one of my searches.

I was fiddling with the brightness of the image, so I may have introduced an artifact, but do you think that white splotch on his jaw line might be a tiny little CH4?

[shy oracle]

looks like my great great great grandpa

what's the context of this pic?

[dusk siren]

It was in one of the two new DISSUN images... you can check those threads or the miro

it seems like people are stumped for now (unless I missed something)

[fresh quiver]

Yes. But it affects us all looking for threads imo. Just my opinion.

[shy oracle]

everyone seems to have tried to make connections that i could come up with myself. the portrait reminds me of the shrek portrait easter egg that's hidden in a ticket booth lol

NOBODY knows who it is even to this day and it was discovered after however long the movie has been out for

[dusk siren]

Carl Benz and benzene 🤔

[scenic geyser]

the new charms have stuff written on it

[dull marsh]

Calling it now, there is a Bigfoot EE in the game

Like a scream or something

(this is speculation obviously)

[velvet narwhal]

A 3 headed Bigfoot 👀

[snow walrus]

he was circling there

[sweet thistle]

A 3 feeted Bigfoot

[fading vigil]

Middle one is not a foot 🙂
new melee weapon)

[gloomy anvil]

yeah this might be what Rob was teasing on stream

[snow walrus]

also what's this

[fading vigil]

There is a vertical line, jumping from frame to frame

[snow walrus]

i think that's a video camera fx

but ofc could be a hint for something

[alpine junco]

And theyre showing it on Kyoto 🤔

[dull marsh]

Yup, thought the same thing

[alpine junco]

Hibagon

[gloomy anvil]

have we worked out what's written on the forest footnote charm?

[dull marsh]

No on SYS it's a boot print, not a bare foot

[gloomy anvil]

there's a boot print on sys?

oh in the museum display

[alpine junco]

Looks like a bunch of scribbles and wiggles

[gloomy anvil]

there's something on the back but it's incomprehensible

[alpine junco]

I noticed a lot of in game items have low res scans

Like the tag on the turtle dome shield

[gloomy anvil]

S.............. - Bigfoot

[dull marsh]

You typoed one third of the letters in the name of that map 😄

[keen ravine]

walk in the park!

[gloomy anvil]

maybe that's S........ - W..f...

[dull marsh]

Yeah "SUNKEEPER" is sus already

[fresh quiver]

Thought about that wealth / gold can be a treasure & curse at the same time

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisimito

oh wait he was in Kyoto map

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibagon

[cold heart]

I was helping Ludo with somethin yesturday and we realised that the snow is wildly different on certain graphics settings, and could help find some things more easily

• right is on Epic settings

[snow walrus]

- "Bigfoot"

[deft notch]

New Skin seems to be made from a polaroid from the "AUTO FOCUS" Skin, Maybe scoping in on a contestant emoting where bigfoot is standing could trigger something.

[gloomy anvil]

that's what I thought at first too

[dull marsh]

On BF4 there was a Big foot EE, one one spot of the map you would see a bright light in the mountain and shooting it with a sniper would trigger a Big foot scream

It could be a remake of that EE

[dull marsh]

It looks like he's on Bernal on that photo tho 🤔

[snow walrus]

it's like the first word starts with "Big" too, maybe in other language

[lone wave]

Sun keeper is Axolotl, an Aztec God

As you can see here #1204475718747029535 message

[alpine junco]

Gigantopithecus

[opaque reef]

is the dissun fuel (red something) rocket fuel?

[dull marsh]

Usually rockets will use more refined fuel than cars, but overall they can be pretty similar

[alpine junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dye

"Red diesel is dyed because it's tax-exempt so off-road equipment can get jobs done cheaply"

[opaque reef]

It didnt look like red dissel, it looked like something much more advanced

[slim plover]

I don't know who he is but he looks like the kind of character that Caravaggio used to paint in his paintings.

[crisp eagle]

Looks like a nod to the famous Patterson-Grimlin film/images

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson–Gimlin_film

Filmed on October 20, 1967
In case we ever need numbers later

[snow walrus]

1967 hmm