easter-eggs

[dusk siren]

Speaking of ghosts, cool article on a few notable eclipses in Japanese history, at least one lunar. I'm about to go look up that woodblock print if I can find it. https://napost.com/2016/eclipses-japanese-history/

The article also has this story about what might be the most legendary solar eclipse in Japan, with something about how an ancient Japanese story about the solar eclipse might even mark the entry of mirrors into Japanese mythology, which apparently has developed into "their outsized role in Japanese art, literature and religion."

Here's that woodblock print from the Meiji era.

Can someone read the Japanese script if they can? Much appreciated, as always.

Wikipedia entry on the Japanese book, the Kojiki (AD 711-712). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kojiki
see also the links to the asteroid 5454 Kojiki and Kitaro album, Kojiki.

Just realized "dark mode" might be better for these, before anyone feels they have to say anything. Will try that in the future.

[plucky kettle]

i dont have a video but on seoul there are white "meteor" sorta things falling from the sky sometimes (i saw them from the apartments looking at the end hospital)

[tulip nebula]

Also the moon in sys horizon has a retro like explosion animation when you move to it in spectate mode after team wipe

[plucky kettle]

that is known

[fossil oasis]

Any new hidden charms on sys horizon? I feel like there's something to do with the wireframe skulls in the one corner of the map

you can break it by throwing a pumpkin at it

[velvet holly]

after seeing rockhoundblack video, i remember that i have seen these in S2 or S1 in skyway lol, idk what they may be till now

the SS date back to 5th of February 2024

[dusk siren]

After Rockhound's latest video, had a thought about Rob's comment about needing more potassium and phosphorous. See the roses thread if interested.
TL;DR: Try burning the ground before planting the "magic beans"?
#1203859365610922036 message

[keen wind]

monaco pumpkin in the rubble of duck and cover

[jade harness]

has anyone noticed that scotty and june's voices distort WAY more than they used to in sys horizon?

[eager crystal]

yeah, it can get super buggy sometimes

not sure what it might mean, but June and Scotty do state that the map was made by CNS (or something along those lines, don't quote me on that), so maybe it has something to do with CNS?

[viscid owl]

anyone?^^

[jade harness]

sys horizon is CNS's map, so 100%

im just saying it could be a subtle sign for something

[shy oracle]

you guys know how the redmoon existed in skyway? there's the redmoon reflection in SysHorizon instead of the vaporwave moon

i don't remember if it was the image fidelity of my poor tv screen but it was definitely not the reflection of the same moon of the night variant

i just remembered seeing sys horizon mentioned here

[unkempt dune]

*true love

[dusk siren]

Not sure I'm answering the question you're asking, but other than the fish stuff? A cruel inside joke would be Rob reminding us that the fish stuff is still one puzzle that has gotten away (we're still working on it). I might be missing other clues that have you asking about a person, specifically, as the one who got away. Would love to know more what's motivating the question and the theories you already have.

[copper saffron]

so whats up with the 3 monkeys when the https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfeeactivationlvl3 page loads in

[rigid adder]

Hmmm, does someone know ?

[sand bane]

anyone tried to decipher the Tombstones?

[lyric zenith]

The ones on Kyoto are all just Team names

Just in Japanese

[copper saffron]

What map would have to do with monkeys

[burnt sun]

The monkeys were found on monaco - it's 9 in total but only 7 have been found

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1211002564015824906

[sly quest]

These are so obscure how in the fuck do people even see these

[gilded lynx]

Based on where all the monkeys are located that prob means the remaining ones are in those bigger gaps between them

[burnt sun]

probably - theres also one hint for an unsolved one iirc

[gilded lynx]

Could also be that different map modifiers have them, like duck and cover or suspended structures

[gilded lynx]

Hint from rob?

[lyric zenith]

The letters could form: CNS ARE O..

[burnt sun]

The password itself is solved - it's "ASCONSE"

[lyric zenith]

Oh shoot forgot about that

[burnt sun]

"They monkeys can be seen by any class, in any gamemode, in any setting, in any map variant, in 1P and 3P... they are currently only Monaco... they have been there for a long time, but first they could only be seen during a specific ToD..." - but we should do any further discussion about the monkeys in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1211002564015824906 to keep this thread clean

[viscid owl]

Its in my head everyday since i read the description idk why😂
I thought about "chum" as a friend. But maybe its a fish, i cant really see whats on the badge.
For what i think it is. Might be someone who got away with being used as bait to attract others. Other bigger, stronger contestant? Im really not sure and confused but since i don't know how i actually got the badge in game, there is nothing saying where it came from.
I know embark hides stuff everywhere so thats why im so curious

[dusk siren]

Didn't even think of "chum" as friend. That's interesting. 🤔

[dusk siren]

"ASCONCE", right? Just trying to clarify for myself if no one else, thx. I wasn't around for that part of the hunt.

[knotty abyss]

k

[burnt sun]

yes. Slies (5/5 White Rabbits), Cetacea (DolphinEE) and ASCONSE (Monkeys) - this lead to sliescetaceaasconse which was the password to unlock Level 3 of the hunt

[gilded lynx]

Thank you for the info and relay to the thread

[opal pond]

I think its because the original ones were too distorted, so they changed how it distorts and made it happen more often?

[dusk siren]

Concept: “From Embark, With Love” Maps
See the post here: #1282815551944659104 message
TL;DR: A Washington, D.C. map to follow the NYC map

[dusk siren]

Latest theories about the missing "monkeys" / possibly 2 letters? Sorry, re-posting in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1211002564015824906

[lilac belfry]

They have some crazy things then I'll start looking from some myself

[dull marsh]

There are at least 2 more 3HM that require something more to see them than just turning around

[gloomy anvil]

Seas The Day = Seize The Day = "Carpe Diem" (coined by Horace)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_diem

• Rob gave us a Carpe Diem clue during T3: #easter-eggs message
• It seemed to point to Horace being the first Latin author to write "Ab ovo", which was the name of Paul Klee's painting that was its own clue #1201288968562552863 message #easter-eggs message
• These indicated we should use "ovo" in the T3 password instead of "ovum"

Could the name of the pirate bundle be a new hint at Carpe Diem?

[dusk siren]

Very interesting wiki article. Potential associations:

• horticultural references ("the plucking and gathering of ripening fruits or flowers"; roses, rose hips)
• the Animal Crossing series ("catching a Crucian carp will result in the message 'I caught a crucian carp! Carpe diem!'"; fish, crosses)
• Horace Mann School (famous private school in the Bronx, NYC)

[snow walrus]

also Seize The Day is Avenged Sevenfold's song, released in July 11 2006; the day Barnard Hughes (American actor) died in New York.
Some of the titles he played in:

• Hamlet
• The UFO Incident
• Tron

[dusk siren]

In https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1270882064249520198 I had some posts that probably should've gone in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1282815551944659104 about a set of fruits (pomegranate, pear, grape, orange, rose hips) that seemed to fall out of my attempt to map the coordinates on the Level 3 landing page. (Warning: verbose posts - was still learning the ropes here 🙂 )

Very rough summary of my coordinates mapping work for anyone with both the time and patience.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTiYTvSU_zO13h6aCMa6m_xkJHFDdp0m0LzDnUqQKsGVNveqDE9WmGq8QoMlCFfJTsZUPgza3LyF38z/pub

[dusk siren]

Not the only way I thought the coordinates might be used, but again, likely belonging in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1282815551944659104
TL;DR: This approach resulted in an anagram for SUBWY, SF, SDG. Theory that SUBWY = NYC with an implied clue of either "take the A (train)" or "Miss A" (k-pop group) edit: Actually, Miss A with Suzy Bae. "A to Bae" likely just an amusing coincidence, but it is what we say when we go from one place to another. 🙂
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMhi4gv4ew3fV_TWKO_9YDpDC7of8ujiMuhdLx27vcMopySro2d3pop5DtH4WYw1Kx8_vKnYLy7vnu/pub

[dusk siren]

This might be old news, but perhaps meaningful in the context of NYC and the American Revolutionary War that the seal on top of the cannons (in Monaco at least) appears to be a royal cypher for a King George (similar to the image below, if I'm not mistaken). Possibly King George III?

[lyric zenith]

It also kinda Looks like a squid

[heady dome]

I have been summoned

[ocean dagger]

this 2 egg skins for me have the number 24 on them, idk if this is relevant
https://imgur.com/a/SpGmSPq

[dusk siren]

Thx for the idea. Mine are numbered 24, too. I figured it was for 2024, to mark as distinctive from skins issued in each new yr going fwd.

[opal pond]

Yes this is probably the reason, Next year we'll get a 25 on the item. And maybe a different colored version of it too?

[dusk siren]

I started going through the Kyoto posts so as not to waste people’s time, but there are just way too many.
Question: Has the Japanese autumn moon tradition of Tsukimi, or “Moon Viewing,” been brought up previously?
TL;DR: The “moon lanterns” could just be a historical prompt to suggest the traditional celebration of “Moon Viewing”. An autumn moon would fit with the change in seasons on Kyoto, as well. Traditionally the “15th night of the 8th month of the lunar calendar.”

• Possible literal suggestion: Focus on the various moons overhead in Kyoto and perhaps across every map. (I've never looked, I'm just assuming/hoping there's a moon overhead in Kyoto.)
• Possible figurative suggestion: In addition to the bird EEs, perhaps moon EEs (“moon viewing”) separate from the moons in the traditional Japanese stone lanterns.
  Additional info:
• Early post from @gusty timber about seeing ‘TSUKI’ inside the Season 3 Teaser (Kyoto): #1248764362831827036 message
• Not an authoritative source, but an easy read about Tsukimi: https://www.momentslog.com/culture/the-celebration-of-japanese-tsukimi-moon-viewing-traditions-foods-and-cultural-significance
• Japanese lunar-solar calendar seems complicated to me, but may be relevant and might require more than just the wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_calendar

[opal pond]

Hi friend, your message was reposted to #1203859365610922036 message Thanks for your help

[shy oracle]

"From Embark, With Love" FEWL = FUEL?

[fallow agate]

That’s a real stretch

[dusty elm]

FEWL = FOOL

[shy oracle]

we've (meaning me only) been fooled all along 🤯

[exotic stone]

New to EE hunting stuff, not sure if there's a more central resource for the topic of roses in the practice range but thought I'd chat here and ask a couple questions

Do we have a list of the various interactive components in the practice range that are sort of unique to that space? From reading briefly through some messages posted here, it sounds like we have:

-5 roses
-Those barrels that burn infinitely
-The uniquely indestructible crate containing a heavy dummy

But has anyone looked at the generator thing? I meleed it and you can turn off the 5 street lights in the forest, and then after a moment they turn back on. The number of lights being the same as the number of roses seems relevant but idk

The fee fi fo fum thing and the heavy dummy seems related, but maybe the light dummies are also related? By my count there's only three light dummies in the practice range but I'm not sure if I missed one

The poem is

Fee-fi-fo-fum
I smell the blood of an Englishman
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

The other obvious interactive trigger unique to the practice range is the dummies, and the poem is about "be he alive or be he dead"

So there's two heavy dummies in the map, 3 light dummies, maybe there's some interaction here with destroying the dummies in a particular way in combination with doing something with the roses?

If there was one more light dummy it would make me wonder if we were meant to switch to light somehow and then destroy all the light dummies simultaneously in combination with destroying ourselves somehow

Effectively turning off "5 lights"

A person might also place roses at a graveside so maybe that would have something to do with it, placing roses in front of the mannequins that you were meant to destroy?

Sorry if I'm repeating things that others have already thought about but I'm really curious as to where the community is at with this Easter egg right now. I just can't imagine the solution doesn't have something to do with the dummies since the dummies are the unique component of the practice range

Ok nvm looks like someone else mentioned the generator 25 days ago

[sour marsh]

Is there normally a rose spawning by the cash box throw thing? I was messing around and I know for a fact I destroyed all the roses with a powder canister but I just found a new one by the cashbox aim center

[coarse helm]

at least 5 purple skulls on sys horizon, and a giant floating one off the map over the purple graves

i can't post images

what?

[eager crystal]

You don't have the correct role

You have to level up in order to be able to post images

[coarse helm]

COOL!so i need to waste time to post an image

[eager crystal]

Gives you a chance to talk to people at least

[coarse helm]

:/ ....
on sys horizon
in world tour mode
there is an area with a giant purple skull floating above purple graves where there is normally a vortex
around there there is three small purple skulls on the ground
2 elsewhere on the map.. maybe more
5x that i have found

[tardy mirage]

This man is on to something 😳

[coarse helm]

maybe they need to be placed in the hovering lit candles or on pedestals in the museum or on a headless thing somewhere or, i started trying the trees spots just in front of the giant hover skull

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/niaDyt9w09U?feature=share
here's somsones' vid of one of the little purple skull locations

[past karma]

Just in case, the roses aren’t destroyed by the smoke. They just scatter in all directions from the "blast". Which means, one of them ended up just beside the cashbox

[lyric zenith]

Wasnt there an ospze comercial with a squid?

[coarse helm]

ospuze has phosphorus in it, no doubt [maybe to do with the roses one]

[cedar carbon]

I know that the player numbers are unique and randomized, but has anyone looked to see if there was any meaning behind the numbers on the items in the images in the battlepass?

[split egret]

Check out the Practice Range Roses thread. It’s a bit of digging, but the pinned messages are pertinent clues.

There’s some discussion on the “Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum” and what it represents.

Someone posted a photo of daylilies, nicknamed Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum, which seems more significant than the rest of the poem, since Rob only stated the former.

Seems like we’ll be researching chemistry and experimenting with the elements.

NPK mixture, Rob stated to use less Nitrogen, more potassium and phosphorous

[split egret]

Also, I think the generator deactivates for 45 seconds. If you damage it after it turns back on, it goes out permanently.

[dusk veldt]

Once you are levelled up you can access threads, check the #1269468076940853248 , then relevant threads such as the Bean thread, Practice range EE thread and so on

[fair totem]

Has the numbers on the duel pistols for heavy been used anywhere?

[stuck fulcrum]

Is the hot gossip burn after reading thing a phone number

[unkempt dune]

Maybe... there's sets of numbers used on certain weapons

try searching the discord server and seeing if they've been mentioned before!

[sour marsh]

That’s so weird, I wasn’t even near that area and it was like perfectly centered.

[fair totem]

I only found this related to numbers on guns

Seems like they haven’t been used anywhere but idk where they could be used

[past karma]

Regarding #1203859365610922036 (since I can’t post messages there): were the lamp posts in the park ever investigated?

They are dark green, there are five of them (matching the number of roses), and they have small spirals at the top (https://imgur.com/a/tCTavyB), which are reminiscent of how people often draw beanstalks.

[opal pond]

Thats a good catch I never noticed that

I forwarded it to the channel

[past karma]

Thanks!

[bold storm]

hey i got some things to say abt the roses

i believe it gotta be related to either the generator next to it or the infinite pile of fire that wont end

the generator can be broken too

it will spark for a bit until fixing it self

or maybe holding the roses in fire will slooooowly make them larger considering the fire doesnt deal dmg

[storm horizon]

u can goo of the map

[opal pond]

To the roses thread right?

Done

You’re welcome!

[ocean grail]

dang, that was a message from awhile ago lol

[dusk siren]

Feel free to repost in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1282815551944659104 , but I’m 90+% sure this is correct and about the entire Level 3 puzzle so putting it here.
TL;DR: The structure of the puzzle is this:

• 9 U.S. cities (I believe NYC, DC, Chicago, Birmingham/Huntsville, Dallas/Houston, Las Vegas/Reno, San Diego (or SF), LA, SF (or SDG), in this specific order)
• 9 Treasure Maps, one per city (following the pattern “X-I-O,” where X is a statue/monument, I is an obelisk/”obelisk”, O is a rotunda/”rotunda”)
• In-game EE connection: The Treasure Map (Recent interpretation was from statue, then “look”, then “x marks the spot.” I don't think it’s necessary, but would be even stronger if it was the statue on Monaco, then an “I” shaped thing in between the statue and the Nama Tama treasure, and you were persuaded that the location of the gold Nama Tama was in the rubble precisely where the circular (O) staircase previously stood.)
  (images follow)

*fwiw, I also have a theory that one of the two remaining Three-Monkeys EEs is on an “I” shaped something in Monaco (e.g., plank, crane, etc.). Hit me up if you want to go looking for it sometime. *

Reminder of the Level 3 landing page:

[past karma]

Was the 783 tag on the trees ever solved? I found that it's a number matching one of the frequencies of the Schumann resonances, but I don't think it was ever mentioned here (at least I couldn't find any mentions).

The global electromagnetic resonance phenomenon is named after physicist Winfried Otto Schumann who predicted it mathematically in 1952. Schumann resonances are the principal background in the part of the electromagnetic spectrum from 3 Hz through 60 Hz and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies around 7.83 Hz (fundamental), 14.3, 20.8, 27.3, and 33.8 Hz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

Apparently, the Schumann Resonance may improve plant germination and growth rates.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7828558/pdf/cells-10-00149.pdf <--- The article mentions the number 7.83 once (it could be referenced later as the 'first harmonic,' but I haven’t had time to read through).

Other random semi-related pages (e.g. https://www.meditecheurope.co.uk/resonantie/schumann-resonance.html) mention same effect, but often lack any source (so seems like a pseudo-science bs aimed at boosting product sales to me to be honest):

Growth and Development: There is growing evidence that plants are sensitive to the Schumann resonance. Research has shown that exposure to these natural frequencies can improve the germination and growth rate of plants. It seems that the Schumann resonance can have a stimulating effect on plant cell division and photosynthesis, resulting in healthier and more vital plants.

Maybe somehow related to #1203859365610922036

Is there any sound in the game operating at 7.83 Hz frequency?

[dusk siren]

One other possible interpretation just occurring to me that may be correct about in-game hints to the structure of the Level 3 puzzle:

• ASCONCE = NYC
• S.LIES
• CETACEA = SAN DIEGO
  = "S" lies between NYC (first) and SAN DIEGO (last), where "S" is the curving path on a treasure map.
  "From the Statue of Liberty's torch (a sconce), to the dolphins off the coast of San Diego (cetacea)."

Saying 90+% confident is not 100% confident, so I'm prepared to be wrong, but immediate implications would be both (a) continuing to drill down on the NYC puzzle focusing on the original "map" you guys discovered and (b) starting to figure out what the maps and puzzles even are in each of the subsequent cities (e.g., the puzzle contained in the Washington D.C. map, which I am similarly confident is the correct one to look into).

We probably need more in-game EEs! 🙂

[dusk siren]

I'll try not to hammer on about it too much, but I'm still partial to "From Embark, With Love" as "X-I-O," where "I" = "us" (Embark, CNS), and "X's" and "O's" emanating from the "I" = "kisses" and "hugs". Essentially: "hugs and kisses from us at Embark." I'm probably just trying to fit everything into my latest pet theory, though. 🙂

[marble elm]

can it be that the unique number for every person is related to the amount of hours you spend in game? so the people who played the most gets the lowest numbers and visa versa?

[sly quest]

I have like 100 hours played and my number is 17

[coarse helm]

what tree/s?

[shy oracle]

that explains why i got #30? I had just about 300 hours of playtime by the time s4 dropped

just shy of 310 iirc

[gritty cloud]

I got 75 and I'm pretty sure I had something close to 75 hours played when s4 dropped

[alpine junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(book)

[gloomy anvil]

Fascinating read

the article that is

[turbid tinsel]

how does asconce = nyc and cetacea = San Diego? been away a minute nvm i cant read

[rugged breach]

Sys pumpkins smile when you get close

[velvet narwhal]

Oh I thought they start smiling when you pick them up. Proximity also makes sense

[barren river]

has anyone tried attaching a mine

[past karma]

The trees in the Practice Range, and if I'm not mistaken on some other maps as well, have numeric code tags on their branches.

[coarse helm]

yes. i found the images of them, and 7.83Hz creates some cymatics that sorta resemble the little light shapes people have been seeing around

[past karma]

I would be grateful if someone could forward my initial message about Schumann resonances to the Practice Range Roses, so it's not lost here

[granite bough]

wow

[past karma]

Okay, this is actually a great find. I can absolutely see the similarity of the shapes

https://imgur.com/a/atWcwj1

Many are hexagonally symmetrical, just as light shapes are, if I remember correctly

Edit: my bad, the light shapes are not symmetrical

I think it might be interesting to find a way to generate similar patterns for 7.83, 14.3, 20.8, 27.3, and 33.8 Hz and compare them to the found light shapes

[opal pond]

I genuinely thought I was going crazy, I could tell something was different when I picked them up but never realized what changed

[rigid adder]

That’s a detail from another level honestly

[stuck fulcrum]

did you not know that earlier

[median sierra]

Are all 5 roses necessary to complete the Practice Range EE?

[gloomy anvil]

we haven't solved the practice range EE so we don't know yet

[median sierra]

I’m aware lol just wondering..

[gloomy anvil]

ah yeah Rob hasn't confirmed how many we need

[median sierra]

Spent like 2 hours in the practice range and I’m starting to think they’re a “red” herring

[dusk siren]

Something that would give more support to the "9 U.S. city road trip" idea based on an in-game EE/feature (with slight update to city list):

• Tsukimi or "Moon Viewing" as a pictorial clue for what to look for and at in the maps in each city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukimi
• MW.Area 1 ("The North"): -> NYC (Vanderlyn Rotunda in the Met) -> D.C. (U.S. Capitol Rotunda) -> Chicago ("rotunda" 3) = "rotundas" as "full moons"
• MW.Area 2 ("The South"): -> Huntsville ("half-circle 1") -> Charlotte ("half-circle 2") -> Texas ("half-circle 3") = "half-circles" as "half moons"
• MW.Area 3 ("The West Coast"): -> L.A. ("crescent 1") -> S.F. ("crescent 2") -> San Diego ("crescent 3") = "crescents" as "crescent moons"
• Nice feature would be the suggestion of the passing of time along the "road trip"
  Anyway, if this pattern starts showing up, it would be a bit of evidence in favor of the theory.

[barren river]

huh

[empty plaza]

I can’t be the only one who thinks this is hiding something right? The image on the TA webpage is so blown up it hides the entire left side of the image.

Does the name “Urbain Grandier” ring a bell to anyone?

[dull marsh]

Could be a clue about something to do using anti-grav cube?

iirc Ariad was also holding it

[empty plaza]

Ooo good observation

There’s also the the rainbow behind it, possibly something to do with color. I wonder if any of the guys who found the DCEE code had a gravity cube in their inventory

[past karma]

Can you share direct link please?

[empty plaza]

It’s the image just behind Attackers, Defenders, and Objective
https://www.reachthefinals.com/terminal-attack

[dusk siren]

I think there will be multiple ways to travel through those 9 U.S. cities, but I suspect Will Ferrell movies will be one.
TL;DR: There are movies to get to and from NYC -> D.C. -> Chicago -> Hunstville... -> Charlotte... -> Houston -> L.A. -> S.F. -> San Diego (-> NYC?/London?)
#1282815551944659104 message

[dusk siren]

As I develop this theory (hopefully not a complete waste of time), one interesting idea that seems to come out of it is that MultiCo might stand for "MIC" (aka the "military-industrial complex")
The logic is that Washington, D.C., Huntsville, and San Diego need to be associated with "conglomerates" in the theory, and they are actually most notable for connections to the MIC.

[eager crystal]

This is just a small thing, but in the practice range, whenever you fire a gun at the wall or roof, there are little blue lines that appear at the location where the bullet impacts. However, there is a section of the black roof (not in the forest, but above the house) that does not show these blue lines whenever you fire at it with a gun. No idea if this is just a glitch or not, but i just wanna be careful

[gloomy anvil]

I encountered one of the Jack-o-lantern ghosts yesterday

[tawdry tartan]

not sure if relevant or already discovered, sorry if so. if you data reshape the cash box by the grass near the roses, it falls into the ground. could be glitch idk. but potassium and phosphorous are both found in beans so I figured the roses might need to be planted somewhere, possibly here. idk, never really gone hunting before, sorry if old news.

[past karma]

I tested this quickly - the reshaped prop consistently falls out of bounds if the cash box was lying with the Finals logo facing up

So might be a "bug", or just a consequence of some yet unreachable part of the EE hidden there

[coarse helm]

maybe it's stegnography *shrug

[empty plaza]

Honestly not a bad idea

[empty plaza]

We fertilize the soil

👀

Also, the year St. Valentine Died was 👀'd by Rob, so possibly following his skull in Rome leads us to more answers?
How did he die?
He was beheaded

[heady dome]

Now… how does one behead themselves in the finals 🤔🤔

[exotic stone]

Not sure if this has been done anything with, but there's also a store about how St Valentine is associated with roses because he calmed a lovers quarrel by giving each of them a rose

The dummies shooting each other are unique to the practice range, and there's two groups of roses, one set of 4 and and then the single one on the bench

Maybe you give the dummies shooting each other each a rose from the four, and then trigger the barricade that stops them from shooting each other to mimic the story? And then something else is done with the final rose

Probably also something has to be done within the time window of the generator being shut off and then turning itself back on

I think it's probably going to be useful to think of all of the numbers/interactive elements that the level has that would be reasonably trackable by the devs to set up an Easter egg

Interactive buttons, the number count for how many throwables of a particular type have spawned, the statuses of dummies where they're still alive or what kind of damage they're taking, the position of objects,

[empty plaza]

The trees in both the Practice Range and Aventine Hill in Rome, Italy are Stone Pines and Olive Trees, which are both native to the Mediterranean Region.

[exotic stone]

Also, has anyone else noticed the sliders on either side of the generator? They're not identical on either side, and there's also 4 of them, which lines up with "Fee Fi Fo Fum" as well as the number of roses on the ground

Also, when you stand directly above the heavy in the box in the forest, it gives you line of sight on all four lamps posts

Maybe shooting them out from this position could function as some form of code entry

Could be a particular order to shoot them out as well

All five lamps posts*

dunno why my phone is autocorrecting lamp to lamps lol

I take that back, not quite perfect LOS, I thought it did because I was messing with igniting roses in those 5 positions but I'm wrong

[past karma]

Also this connection was not explored, but might be not related to roses EE

[exotic stone]

The generator also has BICU 174617 3165 on it

Google tells me BICU is an acronym often used for Burn Intensive Care Unit? Idk

If the 783 does have something to do with frequency, maybe that has something to do with the FREQ slider on the generator?

[past karma]

Interesting. Actually, did anyone check if the sliders change position when the generator is damaged or not?

[exotic stone]

I did and they do not

[past karma]

This is what I just forwarded

[tawdry tartan]

ope

[exotic stone]

The other three sliders are Range, Level, and Speed

Range is something we might be able to work with somehow, some particular distance we need to be from something?

Also, those sliders are 3d modeled so it's possible they could move around

BICU 174617 could also be read as 17, 46, 17

On the left side of the generator the range/level/speed sliders have the range and speed equal at the middle and level higher, idk

[past karma]

To people in #1203859365610922036 , what was the direct confirmation of connection between roses and St. Valentine?

@dusk siren the bow was not available from the game launch though, might take that into account (sorry for writing here, don't have access to threads)

[dusk siren]

Ah, ty so much

[empty plaza]

Found something!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Bassignani

Only question, where is the rest of the sculpter?

[pure loom]

It looks like a religious sculpture, I can imagine that might be the reason for it being removed.

[empty plaza]

Understandable

[pure loom]

Originally noted here: #easter-eggs message

[empty plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/drawing-board-back-to-the-drawing-board-doc-brown-chalkboard-gif-14723628

[coarse helm]

there's a coffin centered on the destroyed and put together church halloween mode monaco church with a bunch of floating candles . I'm gonna go emote right in front of it with the flower placing emote hehe

and/or look for his statue at the diff. fountains

[torn swallow]

Payed emotes wont activate anythint i think

[coarse helm]

hmm, there is a generator near one of the fountains

turns off 5 lights

there is a coffin with a red up arrow inside it at the church in powershift monaco.. with candles above it

https://imgur.com/a/GzaC1cn

[coarse helm]

5 purple skulls 5 red roses 5 lights

woa. the giant floating purple skull disappeared somehow, never noticed it dissapear during a match (it was floating a minute earlier in the world tour match)..interesting

other coffins i have found don't have red arrows inside them, the others i've found have white

[past karma]

In relation with what is being discussed in #1203859365610922036 - nononono might hint to NO4 maybe? Wikipedia says it is either Orthonitrate or Peroxynitrate, depending on the charge

As a highly active signaling molecule, nitric oxide (NO) is a key factor in regulating plant growth and development.

[coarse helm]

roses do crazy shit in teleporters

yeah just throw tp throw white ceiling and you can tele back back throwing one back inside

if your are clipped out sometimes youc an see in distance an exploding star or planet like on sys horizon kinda

most obj. only do that if you put the tp right above itself

[unkempt dune]

St. Nicholas though... hmmm

snowy Monaco was indeed fun

[past karma]

I think this was kinda confirmed to be an unintended side effect of a very small object interacting with a teleport

[gloomy anvil]

You need to level 1 (Contestant) to send messages in threads here. That's 35xp (35 messages)

[covert harness]

you all know the yellow strips appearing? what the tread for it???

[empty plaza]

Still, this easter egg revolves entirely around St. Valentine and the Roman Catholic Church

[dusk siren]

I like this line of thinking. I was thinking maybe "No NON or ONO" maybe. I'm no chemist, but perhaps N2O and NO2 could be hints at red barrels (explosives) and goo barrels. (Even if No NON or ONO is right, I'd still want to hear other interpretations of the two chemicals.) That leaves, of the original barrels in the game, powder, gas, and flammable fuel (or fire?)

[exotic plover]

NO WAY-

[bronze vale]

NO WAY!!

[tough vortex]

taco

[unkempt dune]

Limited edition zoodie easter egg?! #🥚┇off-topic message

one zoodie has 333, which is 1/2 of 666

333 can also be read as WWW

like World Wide Web

@dim rivet how long have you had that jacket for and known about the 333?

[dim rivet]

Since I got it

[unkempt dune]

when was that?

[dim rivet]

September 23rd

[unkempt dune]

EDIT: a Zoodie (THE FINALS Hoodie) with 333 and one without

those are definitely different sized tags

[fresh quiver]

now we just need to know if they are the same on the every zoodie or if they are unique numbers etc..

@unkempt dune maybe post it also in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1283141140719075459

we just need to rename the thread for it 😄

[unkempt dune]

meh

I say forget the threads!

they're not discoverable

[fresh quiver]

kind of yes. said that multiple times in the past 😄

We should start using #easter-eggs as main channel again.
and only copying important things over to the threads. just that they dont get lost

(except cooking) cooking should be still done in threads. looks at Atsuhiro & Ludonope.

[unkempt dune]

well, I do have this in my brain in #1282815551944659104 message

I document a lot

[unkempt dune]

anyway.. The Ten Commandments for anyone curious

I remember seeing this in the computer lab at my highschool 🤣

[spring thistle]

I agree with.. Some of these

[unkempt dune]

uh oh

#3 is a tough one I bet

[spring thistle]

#6 is a big nono

I STEAL

[wet edge]

I can't post in the Practice Range Roses thread, but the Fi in Fee-fi-fo-fum might be related to the Phi (as in the golden ratio)? Apparently over the centuries lore has been built around Phi such as it represents perfect beauty uniquely found throughout nature.

It can be defined by taking a stick and breaking it into two portions. If the ratio between these two portions is the same as the ratio between the overall stick and the larger segment, the portions are said to be in the golden ratio. Also in Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack stole the goose that laid golden eggs.
Don't know if this helps at all, but I hope it does and also that I don't sound like I just escaped from Arkham Asylum.

[past karma]

My problem with roses pointing in different directions - they don't point at dummies

Two of them point to the left and right, two of them point outwards, and one of them is on the bench pointing to the left

I wonder if the roses may point to a particular compass direction

https://imgur.com/a/BBKwc6m

[exotic stone]

I wonder if the cash box is the beans

Maybe you have to place the cash box at a particular spot in the map, then "fertilize" it correctly, then smash the generator in that map to simulate the night passing part of the story

[tawdry tartan]

that's why I was fascinated by the cash box going INTO THE GROUND when data reshaped by the roses lol

like what if you had to reshape it into the right things

then put it into the ground...#easter-eggs message

[velvet narwhal]

The roses EE was possible before the data reshaper was in the game

[iron bridge]

Can't 5 players go into the same practice range?

[past karma]

Not possible

[empty plaza]

Multiple people can’t enter the practice range (which is kind of dumb ngl)

[empty plaza]

The rose EE has been available since Season 1 or even possibly before that

[placid leaf]

Got something for you ee hunters

He also sent a message before that, the message was: (0)

[granite sand]

Was this thiixys stream?

[placid leaf]

yes, from todays stream

[granite sand]

Any context?

[solar glade]

we were talking about CNS

and wanting them back

[velvet narwhal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNS_11643

[placid leaf]

Nope, he only wrote this that I've posted in the chat, the only thing he said before he sent the message of the screenshot I took was: (0)

[granite sand]

S5 map is Taiwan confirmed (if only EE hunting was that easy)

[dusk veldt]

Dm from Zazu

11643

followed by his usual statement he says when he leaks ._.

[placid leaf]

Also, Rob said in Waterdances stream when he was playing with her 2 days ago that ,,all bats arent bats".

[empty plaza]

11643?

And (0)

[placid leaf]

Not, first
(0)
after 2 mins he sent that
11643

[empty plaza]

Interesting. I wonder if (0) means devided by 0

iirc

[placid leaf]

Basically 11643 stands for CNS as I thought, you can read it in a few messages above

[snow walrus]

https://www.cns11643.gov.tw/search.jsp?ID=6

[dusk veldt]

OHHH, he did say "look at those bats, dont they look cool" something along those lines the other day

This must be a halloween EE

[placid leaf]

Looked in THiiXYS stream after he finished and thats what he sent (Thixy looked after what he said).

[placid leaf]

yeah, basically, but where are those bats, I just know there is a bat as a pet but also the spray

Or are there also some events on the Halloweenmaps that can be triggered randomly like in S2 with the dolphins easteregg ?

[snow walrus]

there is no (0)

[placid leaf]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2294390560?t=01h50m06s

here is the stream, watch from 1:50:00 to like 2:00:00, there he said everything (chatted everything) that I've sent in here

[dull marsh]

That makes me think that there is no 0 in roman numerals

[snow walrus]

i could find this

[dull marsh]

We've had 000 iirc, and Rob also likes to point out zzz which could be related to "zero zero zero"

In 3D y is the height, and he keeps saying yO which could point at "altitude 0" or sea-level

[snow walrus]

plane 1 and 8 has latin characters

and 0 is 1-2421

[gloomy anvil]

The only event-type thing I'm aware of are the ghosts that spawn from some Jack-o-lanterns when you break them

[snow walrus]

Is o=O=0 clue still valid? 😄

[gloomy anvil]

Index follows the (0) format but no actual 0 I can find

[placid leaf]

Ok, should keep an eye out if I see bats in Worldtour then.

[snow walrus]

6 is the only one for CNS queries tho

[snow walrus]

i think he used parentheses to point zero so we should focus on that

like Three (3)

[coarse helm]

that shape resembles one or some of the light shapes people have been noticing around

[empty plaza]

Ministry of Digital Affairs?

Could be a total coincidence, or we just got a crazy lore drop with a whole new brand.

MODA

[snow walrus]

what

[empty plaza]

Says it right down here

[empty plaza]

This is some weird stuff

Haven't seen anything like this for THE FINALS before

Not this deep and cryptic

I don't know guys, this seems like a legitimate Taiwanese company
https://moda.gov.tw//
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Digital_Affairs_(Taiwan)

Just interesting how CNS and 11643 end up here in the same context

[steady drift]

Y’all some crazy egg hunters. I respect that. I believe in u guys

[empty plaza]

Hey, you guys might want to take a look at this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNS_11643

GUYS THIS IS A DECODING SYSTEM

[knotty spade]

ohh

[dull marsh]

Seems like you're onto something ngl

[empty plaza]

The first thing I noticed was it talking about encodable characters

It's called CSIC

Chinese Standard Interchange Code

Quote:
"CNS 11643 is designed to conform to ISO 2022. It contains 16 planes, so the maximum possible number of encodable characters is 16×94×94 = 141376."

It's a word coding system!

[steady drift]

Have u guys ever thought of the numbers may be a date like Jan 16 1943 or something. I know CNS 11643 came out in 1996 but

[empty plaza]

I just found an online code converter
https://www.cns11643.gov.tw/downloadList.jsp?ID=1&ID2=24&la=1

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-where-the-fun-begins-star-wars-fun-begins-this-is-where-this-is-gif-20519545

[snow walrus]

pdf version of the table

[empty plaza]

Legend 🤘

So if we did (0) it would be 28x30x23

Colon zero colon

19320

[dull marsh]

CNS value for y is 79... aka ASCII for O

yO

[empty plaza]

Happy Code Day EE Hunters!

A full list of basic CSIC 11643 Characters with Corresponding Numbers

[snow walrus]

mb

[dull marsh]

He has said both yO and y0 , which would match even more imo

[empty plaza]

@dull marsh Pin worthy?

[fresh quiver]

tbf its "yO.!"

[dull marsh]

Let's wait for some eyes, link one of your messages info #1204475718747029535

[empty plaza]

Sounds like something Rob would say

[fresh quiver]

first ever discord message of him

[dull marsh]

That what he said, multiple times

[fresh quiver]

#🥚┇off-topic message

[empty plaza]

Wait ACTUALLY?

[fresh quiver]

#🥚┇off-topic message

[empty plaza]

HOLY MILESTONE

[snow walrus]

i'm confused

0x79 in ascii is y did u mean that?

[snow walrus]

aah idk why that table shows like that as same as PC code

[dull marsh]

Ah wait I'm dumb in ASCII too y is 0x79 💀

fuk

[empty plaza]

You went too far

There's multiple sets

[snow walrus]

No this is CNS 11643 Plane 1

that's for ASCII 👇

[dull marsh]

I'm a bit confused at what "CNS Code" is "for ASCII"

[snow walrus]

i mean the table also lists ASCII set

79 is the ascii value

[empty plaza]

Posted
#1204475718747029535 message

[dull marsh]

Yes yes but what I mean is why that part also has a "CNS Code" column with a value which is not the same as in the CNS set

[snow walrus]

ah yea i don't get that either lol

[hard forge]

did something major happen?

[snow walrus]

#1292576119849095210

[snow walrus]

but we should not rely on this document directly as it is a third party (IBM) doc

[fresh quiver]

sounds like something rob might use

[snow walrus]

i use here to search honestly
https://www.cns11643.gov.tw/search.jsp?ID=6

[empty plaza]

And now we wait

[fresh quiver]

@raven zenith atleast still on the server

[empty plaza]

@pure loom
Guess who made his first breakthrough!

#1204475718747029535 message

[fresh quiver]

raid do your job 😛

[empty plaza]

xD

[dull marsh]

IBM is probably a reliable source in term of tech/encoding stuff tbf

[empty plaza]

IBM is a first party when it comes to stuff like this

They literally STARTED encoding like this

That's like calling George Washington the Vice President

IBM's coding platform literally helped found Windows

So I trust it

[alpine junco]

1 3 4 is on Halloween sys$horizon. the string lights on one of the buildings is 1 then 3 then 4

[empty plaza]

is it really?

[empty plaza]

@fallen jasper Can you pin this for a minute just for hot reference rn?

[gloomy anvil]

@hard forge @dull marsh did Rob give those numbers as clues or just random numbers? #1292576119849095210 message

[dusk veldt]

Random numbers

But most likely connected

These are clues is what I mean

not just out of nowhere

[hard forge]

@gloomy anvil it's something like this #easter-eggs message

[gloomy anvil]

[fresh quiver]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/ConsiderateQuaintGarlicCclamChamp-jCiofLernzeGCNtv

[dull marsh]

Not much context but obviously intentional as clues

[pure loom]

Interesting! "yO.!" was the first message Rob ever posted in the Discord - and when I mentioned that he wrote "Great first message... ._." #easter-eggs message

[empty plaza]

Neato!

[dusk siren]

Still working on 11643, but is "(0)" an emoji for a bat?
I've been toying with the idea that old-school text emojis (esp. Japan and Korea-style ones) might be relevant now or at some point soon.
He probably uses them all the time, but that "._." emoji in his last message doesn't hurt the case.

[dull marsh]

810902 could be a date

1981 feb 9th is the birthdate for Tom Hiddleston, famous for playing Loki (big character in Norse mythology)

It's also the day Bill Haley died, related to Elvis

American rock and roll pioneer, famous for "Rock Around the Clock"

[gloomy anvil]

This is Rob's signature ... ._. = SR (saint Rob)

[dusk siren]

Can't tell if this was a bit passed over.
If 1-2421 could be read as "12421," that's a pretty interesting sequence

[silk otter]

g

[sly quest]

Anybody seen those flying apparitions on Kyoto?

[dull marsh]

There are floating ghosts coming out of the broken Jack o' lanterns on World Tour, apparently it has a 1 or 2% chance of happening

[sly quest]

Spooky

[dull marsh]

Hell yeah 👻

[unkempt dune]

VVV + 333 is ♥️♥️♥️

lots of love

[dusk siren]

Love it. Funny too because I just posted this above:
"I've been toying with the idea that old-school text emojis (esp. Japan and Korea-style ones) might be relevant now or at some point soon."

Going back through the "VVV" mentions in this thread and recalling one of my rabbit hole-style posts about some items in the Met that appeared to have overlapping MMMMM.... and WWWW..... patterns and how it reminded me of the sine waves in the ENGIMO promotional video. Probably nothing, but maybe interesting to the extent "VVV" could also make that connection if Rob ever found that useful.

[alpine junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVV

"VVV

That is, V + V + V. We say . . . –– . . . –– . . . ––

that is, not only

V as a vow—and energy—to return to a habitable and conceivable world,

Victory over the forces of regression and of death unloosed at present on

The earth, but also V beyond this first Victory, for this world can no more,

And ought no more, be the same, V over that which tends to perpetuate the

Enslavement of man by man,

And beyond this

VV of that double Victory, V again over all that is opposed to the emancipation

Of the spirit, of which the first indispensable condition is the liberation

Of man,

Whence,

VVV towards the emancipation of the spirit, through these necessary stages: it

Is only in this that our activity can recognize its end

Or again:

One knows that to

V which signifies the View around us, the eye turned towards the external

World, the conscious surface,

Some of us have not ceased to oppose

VV the View inside us, the eye turned toward the interior world and the depths

Of the unconscious,

Whence

VVV towards a synthesis in a third term, of these two Views, the first V with

Its axis on the EGO and the reality principle, the second VV on the SELF

And the pleasure principle—the resolution of their contradiction tending

Only to the continual, systematic enlargement of the field of consciousness

Towards a total view,

VVV Which translates all the reactions of the eternal upon the actual, of the

Psychic upon the physical, and takes account of the myth in process of

Formation beneath the VEIL of happenings. (VVV 1:1)"

https://modernistmagazines.org/american/vvv/#1464124286764-16c18c4a-368d74d7-ef9d

[plush magnet]

has anyone noticed these playing ards yet

[dull marsh]

Wouldn't it be fun to have snowy Kyoto + ice skating ponds for christmas?! 😍

[granite bough]

or winter Kyoto in season 5

[halcyon glade]

First they have to fix the performance problems with Kyoto or add a voting system...

[tawny cove]

i was talking to him about how much I love CNS, and he just posted those numbers followed by his signature face.

[proper kindle]

NEW QR code just dropped

[fresh quiver]

rooooob. fix the holtow.com website 😂

you cannot drop new QR codes without enabling the website ._.

[eternal violet]

red dot is also in a different position

[silk bolt]

don't forget this guys

[full plinth]

hmm

[full plinth]

wait there is a red dot inside

[gloomy anvil]

what's the URL?

[fresh quiver]

https://holtow.com/suninsurance

[velvet narwhal]

S9 map is gonna be on the sun

[fresh quiver]

in the sun

[full plinth]

😂

[silk bolt]

i would be 10x happier to find what i made rob hide in this update for s9 lol

[velvet narwhal]

That ad looks sick

[silk bolt]

might actually be that the S9 map or theme will be space

but idk if rob will make something about S9 this obvious lol

[velvet narwhal]

I wonder what that forest at the beginning has to do with Iseult

[silk bolt]

should be very cryptic that you need an irl meteor rain and aliens invading the earth while playing with john the finals in a final round in ranked game at 4am in the evening

[copper pine]

Translators, we need translators

[velvet narwhal]

It's similar to the lyrics of a S4 song #easter-eggs message

[gloomy anvil]

Red dot is at 21, 17. In the last sticker it was at 11, 11.

[fresh quiver]

bills
miserable
skip
the
grind

absorbe --> absorbs
ce que c'est --> what it is / what it's all about
mondes --> worlds/world
mondes --> worlds/world
pour misérables --> for the miserable / for the wretched
et fortunés --> and wealthy / and fortunate
absurd --> absurd
ce que tu désires --> what you want / what you desire
devenir --> become/visit/go to
c'est ce que tu es --> that's what you are / that's who you are
alors --> then
absorbe --> absorbs
absorbe --> absorbs```

[kind cargo]

https://www.holtow.com/suninsurance

[cold heart]

• L - old - http://www.holtow.com
• R - new - https://www.holtow.com/suninsurance

both have the red dot

[kind cargo]

the websites not up yet

[opal pond]

Another "steal the spotlight"

[daring iron]

Ghost's in Mónaco?

[lone wave]

Ok one minute, I’ll translate

[granite bough]

I'm not sure, but I think that page was this one.

[tawny fern]

The search "green room beans" leads to a similar topographic pattern: https://soundcoffees.com/products/green-room-espresso-blend

[lone wave]

Absorb what it is.
Worlds
Worlds.
For the unfortunate and the fortunate.
Absurd.
What you want to become is what you are.
Then
Absorb
Absorb

[silk bolt]

we need to absorb

[tawny fern]

The sunlight ? Photosynthesis?

[kind cargo]

roses ee haha

[lone wave]

How did I miss that one. Sorry lol

I just woke up

[tawny fern]

The sun is the same for the miserables and the fortunates 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fresh quiver]

yes. from the spooky pumpkins. it has a chance of 1-2%

rob said yesterday in a stream

[kind cargo]

well that could be referring to holtow being an insurance company

[ashen vault]

https://www.holtow.com/search?q=holtow

Guys wake up we have weird QR code shit

[kind cargo]

yeah

[fresh quiver]

yes

but not online the website

[kind cargo]

IT UPDATED

[fresh quiver]

can confirm. https://holtow.com/suninsurance IS ONLINE

[kind cargo]

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/6575a0eafa56381d6129675f/t/672b5bcf9bee9a67b24d6fe3/1702755107610/5.15.25.gif?format=1500w

[daring iron]

Hahah thanks, im scary xd

[granite bough]

let's gooo

[kind cargo]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/6575a0eafa56381d6129675f/f148bf4c-1b2a-4376-86f4-524b81c4f734/0001.png

backround img

[silk bolt]

i'm buying holtow

then shutting down bcs they suck

[ashen vault]

WHAT

[full plinth]

WHAT
no
no

NO !

[kind cargo]

NOOOOOOOOOO

MY MEGA CARD

[full plinth]

x)

[fresh quiver]

can you might edit the link and remove the "?format=1500w" ?
its more useful to always link the original image without sizing parameters

[kind cargo]

👍

[chrome girder]

It resembles a figure on the training ground , second floor , next to a lamp on the ceiling

[tawny fern]

You're right !

[silk bolt]

we need to know if the S9 clue will be removed after 4.6.0

[kind cargo]

hey guys

[tawny fern]

We need to destroy all lights

[kind cargo]

im not too sure if this was here before but the gif that is on the embed it named 5.15.25

[dusk veldt]

Could we keep it mostly on topic, we have #1201288968562552863 for other stuff

[fresh quiver]

Yeah. Iirc this should be the red blinking gif?

[kind cargo]

yer

did we find why its called that?

or whats its for

the colour is #d0242c also known as "big chungus red"

[gloomy anvil]

15, 25, 5 = O, Y, E = OYE = Open Your Eyes

[kind cargo]

ohhhhhhhh i remember now haha'

[fresh quiver]

thats not correct.

Colorcode of it is CE2029 also called "fire engine red"

[kind cargo]

really

[fresh quiver]

yes

[kind cargo]

damn

[fresh quiver]

go into your searchbar of discord and type: in:easter-eggs CE2029

[kind cargo]

also on the topic of red

do we think the coords of the red dot on the sticks mean anything?

[fresh quiver]

havent we had a holtow thread before?
Let me check something

thread starts here. Have fun to read about holtow guys 😉

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[untold tiger]

French is my second language and just want to comment on a few things:

"absorbe" is used here as the imperatif of "absrober", which should then be translated to "absorb" not "absorbs" as in "you, absorb, it's an order", which really sets a tone of manipulation

"ce que tu desires devenir" is in fact a single sentence, so it translates to "what you desire to become"

Also, these lyrics were wholly present since the beginning of season 4 in one of the soundtracks of the lobby.

[unkempt dune]

@sly quest over here predicting the future Iseul-T lore video

[fresh quiver]

ty for clarification. Just used deepl and picked what i thought was correct. about devenir yeah i had the feeling it might be connected to the words before.

Still waiting for my time to shine when they might have some german lyrics in the future

[untold tiger]

well I finished my German course on Duolingo if that counts too 😂😂😂

[fresh quiver]

Eiersollbruchstellenverursacher

[tawny fern]

I'm french so if you need translations dont hesitate

[silk bolt]

Soooo..how to fly to the sun?

Ima suck it with my gateway

[full plinth]

👀

[untold tiger]

is there a map with a visible sun?

[untold tiger]

is this an easter egg for me? 😂 because I know: eier=eggs, soll=shall, bruchstellen = points of breaking, and verursacher=cause

[velvet narwhal]

Perfectly translated. It's a thingie that perfectly cracks your egg to then eat it with a spoon

german words may be long... BUT they are very good at describing things

[untold tiger]

gotta love german compound words 😂😂

[silk bolt]

This looks so wrong...

Ima keep my thoughts

[unkempt dune]

well, to absorb the sun you need to go outside

[fresh quiver]

naaah. I only need vitamin D3 to simulate that im absorbing the sun

[hushed lily]

They built a dyson sphere around the sun!

Dission dyson energy

[fresh quiver]

are we back at Conspiracy theories?

[silk bolt]

Instructions unclear, there's no sun outside of my room

[hushed lily]

Disson built it and holtow takes the insurance

[velvet narwhal]

It'd make more sense for Dissun to steal the suns energy since they're an energy provider

[hushed lily]

Cash grabs

[hushed lily]

Ya

Maybe the sun is running out and they are saying its infinite

[silk bolt]

Holtow took the sun and put it in the flamethrower, they scammed the shit out of those fools who payed the insurance and took away the sun

[fresh quiver]

theory: Holtow perftected how to create fusions. (As they can trap the sun into the guns)
so in theory they would have unlimited energy?

[hushed lily]

But they are an insurance company

[silk bolt]

So dissun is in danger

[fresh quiver]

depends on CNS who is in danger

[hushed lily]

Id like to think that each company and part of the finals is very dependent on each other, even if its not a stable relationship it would make things interesting

I think about my local news network haha

City news service

[silk bolt]

But isn't dissun the energy company? If holtow is able to generate unlimited energy they can compete with dissun and wipe them out of the market

[velvet narwhal]

Yeah, I think the majority of brands in The Finals are just subsidiaries of MultiCo

[hushed lily]

Wonder if CNS is like a few peeps from holtow, vaiya, ospose, and others banding to unviel stuff

Probably already said but things repeated already tonz

[silk bolt]

That's a lot of risk to be uncovered if they're working in the shadows

[fresh quiver]

they all dependant on each other. to be fair.
They are all subsidiaries of MultiCo. so they are all under the same company

[hushed lily]

Would be a cool story tho

[silk bolt]

It really doesn't make sense to me that CNS is also a subsidiary of MultiCo....i mean why they're not a hacker group or something niche that want to uncover MultiCo bad business

Instead they made the worst game mode and a map lol

[hushed lily]

Thinking about the vr space in a different way, say theres places you can go to in vr (just like that movie ready player one, the oasis) and what CNS did was just reveal their hideout and vaiya jump the gun and said “throw the contestants in and let them run a game” to disrupt while vaiya did their job

Cuz why would arena security be needed? Probably cuz the vr is omni interactive

Like you could feel the carpet haha

So it would mean you could just walk through the doors and leave if you didn’t wanna participate anymore, but for video games sake its not an option

[fresh quiver]

never said that CNS is a subsidiary of MultiCo.

[rugged breach]

Semi-hidden engraving on the holtow mine

Alter. Exploit. Destroy

Also one on the side, can only make out THE FINALS on the top row

Alter. Exploit. Destroy on the flamethrower too

[velvet narwhal]

That's on most guns/gadgets

[rugged breach]

And ??? on the right side

[rugged breach]

Ah yes... totally knew that 🥲

[velvet narwhal]

Virtually Manufactured

[hushed lily]

Ya its like a mark off, like on the 1911 some have “property of the US military”

[hushed lily]

Theres a reason for that obviously but for this case i think its just flare for the contestants, make them look cool

[rugged breach]

In my defense, I don't play heavy to notice pyro mine intricancies 🙃

[hushed lily]

Haha

[inland hemlock]

Léon: The Professional in the new store?

[soft lichen]

There are 2 Holtow sticker that are QR codes. When you scan them you get to a Holtow website, one has a commercial for the sun insurance and the other one has a picture of a insurance card with numbers on it.

[copper pine]

Can you not shut down the company that is currently sponsoring my characters please

[soft lichen]

Heres the link: https://www.holtow.com/

That one is from the old M11 Holtow skin, the Sun insurance one is from the set releasesd today.

[silk bolt]

No they took the sun and put it for heavy in the flamethrower this has to stop

[alpine junco]

I think we need to go back to the drawing board, quite literally.
A lot of clues in #official-art havent been used yet for #1270882064249520198 as well as the white board drawings

[unkempt dune]

THE FINALS
DISCOVERY CORP
VIRTUALLY MANUFACTURED

odds are discovery corp owns most, if not all, the companies

Iseul-T might be the only one that's not under them... not sure

and then there's "moles" in the companies

might as well bring this to #📕┇lore

[tawny fern]

Or should the sun absorb everything to turn into supernova ?

[silk bolt]

Bruh your company took the sun and put it in the flamethrower

[rigid adder]

For some unknown reason yeah

[alpine junco]

What if all this “Sun Insurance” is about Icarus

[opal canyon]

new hint dropped? this red dots are interesting...

maybe this is hinting towards someplace in some map?

[alpine junco]

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[cosmic citrus]

thats dopeee

woahhhh thats cool af

[soft lichen]

theres is an older holtow sticker leading to website, it got updated and shows an insurance card now.

There is also a Barcode sticker but i cant scan it. Maybe it does something too.

[snow walrus]

There is a hidden room in SYS Horizon
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[warm herald]

There is also a hidden shopping cart link on the holtow site, but clicking on it leads to /cart and just an empty cart page

[twilit delta]

the site is made using a squarespace template and this seems to be a result of the same

not sure if it is intended

you can also go to /search and search for pages, although i could get none to show up

https://www.holtow.com/search

/config leads to the squarespace admin panel that demands a login, not sure if we are intended to break into that

neither engimo nor iseult seem to have websites, correct?

here are the two main assets used on the main page -
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/6575a0eafa56381d6129675f/f69cadde-ac25-4cf9-bbb0-3bcfc4f9daac/holtow_megacredit.jpg
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/6575a0eafa56381d6129675f/7a1b1fad-1303-415e-a183-d3d3e01a41a4/holtow_card.jpg

[dusk veldt]

umm no I strongly doubt that

[twilit delta]

yeah that seems out of the question

i would think there's either something on the page, or in these images

found nothing while looking at holtow.com dns records

there's a red dot on the qr in the second image too, qr itself goes to holtow.com

[amber zephyr]

Guys, have you seen anything interesting on the holtow ad website?

[amber zephyr]

<!-- carillon-orca-c6fx -->

what's this?

[twilit delta]

seems like a comment from the squarespace template they used, where did you see it?

[amber zephyr]

in the metadata for the .xml

actually scratch that it's in the <head>

[twilit delta]

yeah i think thats autogenerated by squarespace

[amber zephyr]

hm im not experienced with that kinda stuff i just know basic css

[twilit delta]

np, i wouldn't focus on that for now, thats all

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1185727960980922488 looks like we're treading old ground, most of this has already been looked at

[sly quest]

Hi

[dusk siren]

Wow, I like a Dissun connection a lot. Just my rabbit holes thing, but I currently have Dissun associated with Houston, TX (Dissun; oil companies, energy industry) as the 6th stop on "the Hunt." Would put it in the second third of the Hunt, within MW.Area 2, within Holtow's third, including Huntsville, AL (Holtow; space-related insurance; NASA, space industry) and Charlotte, NC (Holtow; finance-related; Bank of America). This all v tentative, obv.

Dissun = Dyson almost too good

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[pure loom]

I just realized, while watching THiiXY's latest video, that The Big Splash team logo could represent an asteroid impact on the Earth's surface, like the Chicxulub impact that wiped out the non-avian Dinosaurs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater

That was a very big splash 🦖 🌊

[gloomy anvil]

The voiceline "pouring cold water on the big splash didn't help" always stuck out to me, not sure why, it just doesn't seem to make sense

maybe I'm missing the joke

[pure loom]

during an impact the size of the Chicxulub impact the rock in the crater melts - and pouring water on that would instantly turn it to steam, and also cause a large hydrothermal explosion.

maybe that's what it means

[alpine junco]

illuminati confirmed

sun in a bottle?

[dusk siren]

"The Science of Wishful Thinking" would fit with "pseudo-science" theme

The eye in the pyramid would fit with the masonic lore of the founding of the U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_ordo_seclorum

Rabbit hole-ish but I did like: "Overdog" -> "Under God"

Like "The Big Splash" up above and Japanese tombstones lately, perhaps lots more to get out of team names

[dusk siren]

Wow... perhaps in 2099(?), it is post a major asteroid strike. Perhaps "pouring cold water on the big splash" is a metaphor of something a group of future leaders tried in the wake of the strike that was not successful in helping.

The voiceline could signify that that phrase had entered the modern parlance of that era, i.e., originating as a historical reference, much like adages and aphorisms, including our own, have originated over the centuries.

[steady drift]

Yo so I was checking out the store and the sticker for the hollow sun insurance bundle took me to a site to watch the holtow sun thing. But a wierd thing in he top part of the screen don’t know what it is. I also can’t upload a photo of it for some reason through discord.

[dull marsh]

You can upload on imgur and post the link here

[steady drift]

Look at the top middle

https://www.holtow.com/suninsurance

[dusk siren]

Also, looks intentionally "off" to me, as if there is a smaller body orbiting the pupil of the eye (or perhaps about to make impact)

[dull marsh]

Are you talking about the background image?

[alpine junco]

background is a sun

[steady drift]

How to upload an image the plus thing isn’t working

[dull marsh]

You need to level up by interacting a bit on the server

[dusk siren]

If that is earth enveloped in that "eye" shape, a bit rabbit hole-ish but

"Vaiya is narrow at the West and East of the world, and deepest in the North and South." Is that describing an "eye" shape?

[steady drift]

bruuuh

[dull marsh]

Hence why you can use imgur in the meantime 😉

[steady drift]

how to me du,b

[dull marsh]

https://imgur.com/upload 😄

[steady drift]

thx

https://imgur.com/a/dw9vveY

I think this it’s to far to be a solar flare dunno

[dull marsh]

Yeah there are a couple

[dusk siren]

Could fit with the Dyson sphere concept that I find pretty compelling.

Not exactly "scientifically accurate" but the beaming of energy to different destinations?

[dull marsh]

On a side note, how the heck are we even seeing stars in the background?! That's not how astronomy works

[mild tinsel]

Actually kind of a sick concept, Holtow utilizing a Dyson sphere to replicate the sun, if the sun in the meatspace has disappeared or whatever

[alpine junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_(computer_virus)

"Brain" virus > CNS > Floppy Disks > IBM

1974 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb aka Rabbit

[sly quest]

I don’t think anyone will ever figure out these ee. Embark is playing next level chess with everything. Season 1 featured a sneak peak of cns, season 2 and 3 have been building the entire story of the game show. The storytelling will make sense eventually I think.

Next level chess

We even seen the bias wrecker shoe by islt in the open beta trailer

[dull marsh]

Rob seems to be very focused on the idea of timestamps, such as 01:23, so I looked at the Clock Wikipedia page and found a couple of potential links

The history of clocks and time measurement seems to be tightly linked to progresses in astronomy and science.

These mechanical clocks were intended for two main purposes: for signalling and notification (e.g., the timing of services and public events) and for modeling the solar system.

• The word "clock" comes from latin "clocca" which means "bell"

• Earliest clocks were sundials (related to Elvis, obelisks)

• 1st geared clock was made by Archimedes (and it was a Cuckoo clock, yup)

• 1st pendulum clock was made by Christian Huygens, with some contribution from Galileo

• clocks helped the 16th-century astronomer Tycho Brahe to observe astronomical events with much greater precision than before

• Rob has mentioned Kinnekulle, related to Läckö Castle in Sweden. On the wiki page there is an image of a 17th century clock in Läckö Castle. #easter-eggs message

• Most modern watches function with a vibrating quartz crystal

• Atomic clocks measure the vibration of electrons in some atoms, and we've had electron configuration before

• Atomic clocks works with Caesium (named after Caesar), but more recent ones with Ytterbium (directly related to Yttrium and Rhodium)

• There are radio-clocks, which synchronize regularly with an atomic clock on a regular basis via radio waves

• Modern clocks work with an oscillator (pendulum, crystal, ...), that could relate to burrw GIF

• In Alice in Wonderlands, the White Rabbit has a pocket watch and is running late

• Looking for potential links between New York and clocks we can think of New York Times or Times Square, which along with Central Park makes a !

• Dreams and sleep, along with night and dawn seem to be important topics. To wake up we use alarm clocks

• Many analog clocks use roman numerals for the numbers

#easter-eggs message

Fish: Gold watch or something? Haha
Rob: (can’t eye that fish, but you will laugh at this in the future, haha)

[dusk veldt]

When asked if this was a EE hint he said "It is"

Now I cant sleep, im going EE hunting

[dusk siren]

If this was also in the context of "All bats are not bats." That "(0)" could be "a person waving with both arms" but also "a bat." All bats (in the Halloween event?) are not bats (are actually "persons"?).
Vampires?

[dull marsh]

It could also be a coin

Last night I was digging into Mario, because he kept singing Yoshi Island's music on stream for multiple days now

And interestingly the first Mario Bros is within New York's sewers

And they're italian characters

And it's one of the giants of video game history

[dusk veldt]

To be fair there is a reason for him to be doing that, so it might just be a coincidence but unsure

[dull marsh]

Also I feel like "coins" is a topic strongly related to THE FINALS™️ and that we don't have enough of it in this hunt

[dull marsh]

Sure sure, just explaining why I dug into it 😉

And Yoshi is a dinosaur too, and we know Rob loves that T-Rex 😄

[tawny cove]

👀

[dull marsh]

I also thought, what if MW Area is Mario World Area or Mushroom World Area? 🤔

[dusk veldt]

So you think this is a separate EE then? There are alot of paths to investigate rn

[dusk siren]

A couple more thoughts on "clocks" and "time":

• The "Top Secret! Burn After Reading" EE puzzle required adding hours and wrapping around a clock (addition modulo 24)
• Would be another reason time and history could factor into "The Hunt" (starting back in the earliest U.S. history in NYC from early 17th c. to the declaration of independence, and I think, continuing in D.C. up to the U.S. Civil War)
• Cycles - Worth looking into Giambattista Vico and James Joyce's Ulysses (an homage to Homer's The Odyssey). Vico's philosophy of history depended heavily on 'cycles'.
• The mask on the Gold Nama Tama discovered in the rubble of the Cathedral based on the "Treasure Map" EE puzzle is consistently referred to as "Descartes' Demon" in the game (see the in-game cosmetics). Vico was notorious for being an avowed anti-cartesian when it meant going against the spirit of his times.

[dusk veldt]

We have the bat one, the hidden room, whatever this is, the numbers etc

[dull marsh]

No no I'm talking about that in relation to Level 3

But yeah it could be something completely unrelated

[dusk veldt]

What hints do we even have for the hidden room, other than that it is in fact a room on Syshorizon

[dusk siren]

I personally liked @crisp eagle 's "Mid-World" theory from "The Dark Tower" (for several connected reasons). #easter-eggs message

[tawny cove]

he was looking at a wall on the far back side where the late cashout is, middle floor near the window

[dusk veldt]

on Sys?

[tawny cove]

i reckon demat maybe that radius

[hard forge]

It could be burrw ASCII art

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1178137622359593043/1262966432363315292/burrw_-_FRAME_19.png?ex=672cd566&is=672b83e6&hm=b10e7bfdf7378bf3fed3b4764184ed37aaa0c81e9e7ecb8834d3f8663560ba9d&
#1178137622359593043 message

[tawny cove]

yes sys

[dusk veldt]

You dont happen to have a clip?

[tawny cove]

he was making comments tonight playing with stigsson. then stig laughed about how he forgot to put the monkey there. but rob was doing his rob voice so im thinking there is more

i did clip it, let me see if i can track it down

[dusk veldt]

He never let us know

[hard forge]

he did not let us know!

[tawny cove]

yes it was in reference to that

[topaz arch]

i feel like it has to be something that's demat'ed into, or it wouldve been found

[tawny cove]

but i think its there now

[dusk siren]

As for the Vampires idea, but would it mean that there should be coffins somewhere and places that the Vampires sleep during the day? Any "VVV" connection? "Vampires" might be the kind of reference people would make to the Sponsors and their CEOs. Yes, MultiCo the squid, but each arm a Vampire? No more Vampire ideas, though, without better evidence

[tawny cove]

me too, demat that area

[hard forge]

future map!!

[hard forge]

"or it would have been found" we all think that but it took us 4 seasons to find 1 golden Namatama T_T

(2 more left)

[topaz arch]

LOL true

[dull marsh]

We are still missing some EXTREMELY obvious graffitis lmaooo

[hard forge]

3 of them 😫

[dull marsh]

This graffiti is still hanging around somewhere undiscovered...

[tawny cove]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/MiniatureEphemeralBisonPraiseIt-ceU82Iwb1hHOihVX

this is rob talking about how you couldnt see the room on low settings

[dusk veldt]

Well Robs ”obvious” things are, as we have learnt thanks to the dolphins and the charm, not been so obvious ._.

[tawny cove]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/AgileFriendlyPuffinJebaited-lpXdQzvm7KG4D7BF

this is the golden goose clip ^^

[dull marsh]

He's talking about the 3 headed monkey not being visible on low settings, not the room

Then they said that the room was only visible on Epic, but it's really hard to tell if they were being serious or were joking around

[tawny cove]

ludo the second clip is about the room

[dusk veldt]

Time to look near out of bounds areas then

It could just be a surface that hides the entrance

[dull marsh]

Rob: So on this map (SYS$Horizon), there is a small little hidden room that you can go down and hide in

[tawny cove]

i think the room is near the window cashout on the far left edge

looks like we need a few demats and investigate

[dull marsh]

Since he's saying "go down" I'm assuming we enter from above 🤔

[tawny cove]

it reminds me of those spots under the stairs on monaco you can demat into

must be something like that on sys

[carmine trench]

Man that iseult advert has such a banger beat. Is there a full version somewhere?

[gloomy anvil]

Going back in time to stop pink stealing so Rob keeps talking

[tawny cove]

its the song from season 4 ost, the song that plays when you boot up

[tawny cove]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw7ZHgEvncU&feature=shared

the full OST is on bandcamp fo $5

in lossless

[dusk siren]

Question: Other than the "Top Secret! Burn After Reading" EE, have there been any other espionage or spy-related clues or content?

[silk bolt]

Did we know what the master plan map spray is about?

Also didn't rob mention something about a secret room for EE hunters?

[sly quest]

I know right!!!

[carmine trench]

I have Spotify but it’s not exactly the same style as the trailer

I do not hear the excerpt from the trailer in the soundtrack version

[tawny cove]

its a variant

[sly quest]

There’s that huge block in the sky accessible by jump pad or zipline over looking the dolphin ee

[carmine trench]

And that’s what I mean, where is this trailer song full version? Cuz the soundtrack version is not it

[tawny cove]

they might release it as a side album in the future.

[sly quest]

It will probably be released in s5 music knowing these guys

[tawny cove]

it just showed up today, so its quite new

[dusk siren]

This is interesting... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Force

Fire Force is a Manga series that "follows a youth with pyrokinetic abilities who joins a special force developed to counter pyrokinetic monsters threatening Tokyo, which is the sole remaining city in a world ravaged by a global fire."

It is set in the aftermath of "the Great Cataclysm":

[bright mulch]

Idk if this is any new info, but did y'alls check holtow.com there's a megacard with some info

[keen wind]

didnt see a clip of this get posted yet but i remember seeing someone post about a smaller in-map version of this skull that u can pick up

[dusty kite]

fake

[keen wind]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1gk52lg/is_this_a_graphical_glitch_or_easter_egg/

not sure if its just a bug or something but this was the post i saw

[kind cargo]

dont forget the ost C'est Absurde

[fresh quiver]

maybe they put it afterwards into SYS. would be my thought.
Also had the colored room in mind (forgot how it is named again)

Cornell Box it was

[fresh quiver]

and if he put it in afterwards, he in fact did inform us. (in Waterdance stream, but still has us informed)

[boreal delta]

Don't know of this is already known or if it's an easter egg at all but I went onto the Iseul t cover page of the finals website and when I wen to copy it the link said
"egg2_optimized.png?"
Was wondering if this meant anything

[shy oracle]

I'm about to do a deep dive on the Yun Beom-Seok's Secret charm because after the most recent video it's sparked interesting ideas that ISEUL-T may not be a good sponsor and is in fact.. evil..

Every Villian Is Lemons!!!

[fresh quiver]

yes. egg_optimized2.png was used in the hunt earlier on iirc

[boreal delta]

Oh right, thanks

[shy oracle]

So the charm here #📕┇lore message is basically Mr. Yun's left over shoe. It's the shoe of his right foot. The implication of the description is that Mr. Yun is not who he says he is.. The whole idea of ISEUL-T is to "Be Everybody. Be Anybody. Be ISEUL-T." per their latest trailer video.
The phrase "Step into someone's shoes" is a known phrase that hints towards empathizing with people, although nowhere does ISEUL-T talks about helping people or letting players have the option to really be anybody
So this website here https://medium.com/@msouthwind/the-deep-rooted-symbolism-of-shoes-a-detailed-look-cd9260103bb2#:~:text=Shoes have long been recognized,wealth%2C and even personality traits at "The Power Dynamics of Shoes" reads an interesting statement "Shoes have long been recognized as a symbol of status, influence, and personal identity within society. The choice of footwear can convey messages about social standing, wealth, and even personality traits."

a simple google search basically confirms shoes have been a symbol of status throughout history especially when it comes to tailored and custom shoes (different feet sizes)

HOWEVER...

Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandoned_footwear abandoned shoes may be fashionable, and it leads to another article in which it's an artistic expression.

The main question is.. why did he leave the shoe? Is it art? Is it a statement against MultiCo? Is it a statement for CNS?
The most recent video is in french and the link from that article leads to this "Objet trouvé" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Found_object where the shoe left over, that we have from Mr. Yun, is an item leftover for art. It plays into the idea of surrealism which aims to draw from dreams and the uncounscious mind.

This is where I think the theory makes the most sense out of all my insane ideas: Mr. Yun is leveraging the company's name as a "sponsor" while running an identity theft scheme behind their backs through the art world.

basically a get rich quick scheme and using art as a huge tax break or something while he's out of sight and under the radar

(playing into the other ideas mentioned here he's represented as Hermes, or might've just been me idk)

This is where ik im reading too much into it. Last post I promise. The idiom "The shoe is on the other foot" is basically saying that the situation has changed into something completely opposite https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/the shoe is on the other foot
We have the shoe for the right foot as a charm YET it's planted on the left side of weapons by default. THE OPPOSITE SIDE!! I'm not sure where it leads, however, i can only hope this serves as last minute and far reaching evidence that ISEUL-T is two-faced 🥁
I'd hope these ideas would to aid in the search for future easter eggs and always up for interpretation. These are just my thoughts. Thank you for reading and considering what i have to say. 🙂

[velvet narwhal]

Rob has been mentioning (0) a lot in twitch chat.
The most relevant thing connecting to this could be the zero ideal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_(ring_theory)

Zero ideal has never been mentioned in this chat, so I think it might be ideal to look into it.

[velvet narwhal]

I'm reading this a bit (and understand almost nothing)
BUT there are right ideals, left ideals and two-sided ideals (they are ideals that left and right ideals)
This could possibly help us in solving the 9 passwords.

The left column could be left ideals
The middle two-sided ideals
The right right ideals

The zero ideal (0) is a two-sided ideal

[fallen jasper]

on the subject of shoes, i like how on the system sneaks skin, one shoe is tied and the other isnt xp might be a lil easer egg

[silk bolt]

hmmmmmm

ig i'm overthinking stuff

[twilit delta]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fez/comments/1cw70r6/hiding_secrets_in_qr_codes/

i believe the QRs with the dots themselves are hiding info

Unless people have already explored this

[fresh quiver]

I think we haven't checked the Holtow QR codes for secrets except the red dot?
Or maybe we did. I dunno.

But what is known is that the QR Code from TwitchCon San Diego is hiding something in the QR Code.

[twilit delta]

huh.

QRs can be changed significantly and still scan to give the same answer. I tried taking the original QR (from video and at the bottom of the website) and trying recreating it, and was unable to generate the exact same image they used, implying that it is indeed a modified QR that still scans to the same thing

Holtow Website QR -

(I cant paste images?)

[fresh quiver]

you need to rank up to post images. but you can also upload them to https://imgur.com and post the link here

@twilit delta #1201288968562552863 message
this is the San Diego TwitchCon QR Code. Rob told someone that the QR has something hidden

[frail pasture]

I could have distinctly remembered a video where the announcers were talking about CNS and corporate, and there was a brief image of a red eye on the right side

Does anyone have a link?

[fresh quiver]

let me try to find it somewhere.

[twilit delta]

yea am imguring as we speak
i'll check these QRs too, ty

[fresh quiver]

@frail pasture this video with the eye?

[frail pasture]

Yes

I've tried looking for it but like, I can't find it for some reason

[fresh quiver]

someone ( @cold heart ) might have created an archive with all videos 🙂 You just need to know that it exist 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJq5mx-cnAg

there you go

I saw that. which embark site and which code?

[dull marsh]

Pretty sure this is the big jumppad in Fortune Stadium ISEUL-T mall

Not quite how it looks now but could have been footage from development

[frail pasture]

Sick, thanks!

[unkempt dune]

twitch chat easter egg? #⚡┇the-finals-chat message

original discussion: #1201288968562552863 message

(I may have known this for a while since I listened to multiple songs by her after seeing the name)

it's a song about love tho and the changed lyrics are... really interesting

[forest escarp]

i might be nuts - if you look at the finals logo that QR code takes you to there is a red square/dot on the image in each corner

[unkempt dune]

The Exeter Cathedral could be very important... #1201288968562552863 message

you might be interested in that @fallen jasper

goes back to OG Beans time too...

[fresh quiver]

These are called crop marks. It’s a print thing

[forest escarp]

i thought so but usually companies are a bit more on top of that when making landing pages like this - plus the crop marks look funky

[twilit delta]

Holtow QR Errors analyzed -

https://imgur.com/a/holtow-qrs-6qp2cAr

[unkempt dune]

"Exeter Cathedral, properly known as the Cathedral Church of Saint Peter in Exeter" could be related to this event https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispersion_of_the_Apostles

(another thing I've been sleeping on)

[twilit delta]

the QRs definitely have something going on, the difference is large
@fresh quiver fyi

[unkempt dune]

the cathedral is involved with the bishop of Devon and Cornwall... Devon Crossing connection?

it involves sea raids too... pirates?

The Blessed Virgin Mary is mentioned too

civil war is mentioned

world war ii was well

anyway, food for thought

got other stuff to work on

some analysis of that emblem though #1282815551944659104 message

[twilit delta]

does it stay the same at all video and lighting settings?

or for QRs

what perms do i need for https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1185727960980922488 😦

[fresh quiver]

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[fresh quiver]

35 messages

[twilit delta]

ah, 35
trying to get there

OH I MADE IT LESGO

[fresh quiver]

yeah. couldnt remember

[naive oxide]

Can't stop thinking about this, but might be just an aesthetic choice

[granite bough]

ISEUL- T is the Illuminati.

[full plinth]

yea

[crisp eagle]

Maybe the name hints at that somehow. I SE U (I see you) haha don’t know what L-T would be though

[crisp eagle]

Gary Oldman is in that movie. He’s also in The Dark Knight. And of course Léon takes place in NYC

[empty plaza]

@pure loom Merry Christmas

[obsidian siren]

niceeee

[pure loom]

hey hey - do tell!

[dusk siren]

Reminiscent of the Chi Rho?

Some asterisks are styled this way, too. Asterisks are pretty significant in computer coding?

[unkempt dune]

a tiny bit

did you know the PI on Fortune Stadium looks like that P

[dusk siren]

I commented on the Eye of Providence previously, but I was attracted to the onlookers, too. Just more "OYE" = open your eyes. Also, hopped into a game last night and it opened with Scotty saying, "Don't Blink!"

I just thought the "X" with a vertical line through it might be a repeated motif.

We are dealing with "X" marks the spot and also the "obselisks" / towers. (Thinking of the NYC Central Park map for starters)

I'm into the significance of "X", "I", and "O"... a bit why I was speculating that there must be a clue to that if it's right (although maybe just the treasure map EE, with the X, the "eye", and the duck's eye as close to a "O")

[unkempt dune]

X dead
O open
I closed

typical cartoon characters and their eyes

[dusk siren]

One thought was that in addition to "ASCONCE" (which itself ensconces a "O"), if there are two more three-monkeys on Monaco, maybe there is an "X" and "I" as a complement to "ASCONCE" ? idk

Also, did you guys go through the whole "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" thing? The kind of thing I'm sure you did.

[unkempt dune]

have these platforms always been destructible?

I don't remember them being this way

maybe I just never tried

[boreal delta]

Yeah you've always been able to break them

[empty plaza]

Has this sign always been here?

neat

This little area in the practice range is right outside the Monaco map

Rue Colonel Bellando de Castro

Right where the shopping district would be on the Monaco map

overlayed the map and the IRL map, cool detail!

[brittle igloo]

Smth small I just realized.
The order of WT + contract circuits is based on how many sectors each sponsor has in fortune std
with engimo being one sector, holtow 2, and iseult 3

[alpine junco]

one buck two doe, 1B2D

[dusk veldt]

level 3 password clue is hidden on a map #1292576119849095210 message

[dusk veldt]

@dull marsh

[gloomy anvil]

The witch outfit item descriptions have lore clues in them

[opal pond]

Also the red wings, Sheldon or the bat

[dusk veldt]

@pure loom :)

[pure loom]

thanks!

[alpine junco]

86JM vegas lobby code

[fallen jasper]

https://www.holtow.com/
https://www.holtow.com/suninsurance
https://www.holtow.com/search?

Anyone think this is connected 🤔

[opal pond]

What was his favourite building?

Theres also a few red slot machines around the blue ones in the same building

[alpine junco]

also the 4 letters or numbers that have been on vegas since season 1 were the numbers on the concrete parking garage

[alpine junco]

no idea

[opal pond]

Thats the 3rd red one

[alpine junco]

certain order tho

[opal pond]

Come back to the 3rd one

[gloomy anvil]

can you send a pic?

[opal pond]

I think I got something

The one you just destroyed

If you turn around and jump down the hole in the corner you drop ontop of the other one

[alpine junco]

lets restart it then

[opal pond]

Ok

Should we go to the las vegas thread?

[alpine junco]

yeah

[opal pond]

Ok, I left the game waiting in lobby

dont destroy them yet

[alpine junco]

LGNC

[opal pond]

Yup

Im in

[dull marsh]

Finally some good EE stuff to look for!

I'll look tomorrow I guess

[woven talon]

Have you guys scanned the bar code on "Sunny Sign-Up" in the Holtow Insurance Set, located in the shop.

It brings you to a website with a commercial video there. There's also another bar code at that website that leads to someone's bank car.

I wish I could share a photo but I'm not permitted to send a photo, yet.

[woven talon]

Ahh, you have. Nevermind then

[cedar carbon]

Did anyone notice that in the alien invasion insurance video from two weeks ago, the side bar said that it was "PEARLY GATES insurance" like as in heavans gate? I tried typing it into search on the holtow website as well as trying the alien invasion insurance and nothing has come up, is it possible that there is something more to this or maybe im overthinking it? The only reason I noticed at all was because the sun insurance commercial said sun insurance on the right side but this alien invasion one has Pearly gates insurance instead of alien invasion insurance.

[dull marsh]

I wonder if it could be as simple as a graffiti like that

It's big, it's colorful, it's pretty

I still can't really decipher the first letter, best guess is that it spells SPACE but the first one is so abstract that it's hard to tell

[alpine junco]

oh

i think i know what that first symbol is

i think it's two things combined

a2ACE
nZACE
n2ACE

something like that

AT is the signature

or looks like -14T (-140?)

[dull marsh]

There is a good chance that the "letters" are in the cards which are displayed below the dome

There is very very likely some stuff in there, even if it's not that

Isolating some of the patterns

The second one looks like a "M" or "W", or some sort of ceiling or architecture?

There is also this one which for some reason is "blurry" and seems to have some markings on it, possibly "10"

Finally some cards have normal numbers like 3, but some have mirrored numbers for 7 and 6 🤔

[dull marsh]

@empty plaza Roses EE is a mega-EE, so no it's gonna be more than just a golden namatama

[chilly vine]

is there any for Engimo? User Agreements.

[gloomy anvil]

RHB noted this one too last night #1182955042416893984 message

[fallen jasper]

Didn't seem like the iselut or engimo. Both domains were for sell.

[gloomy anvil]

also I think the "PSNO" letters only exist in one place on the map, like a clue might, whereas "SACE" appears multiple times

[sharp flame]

I can see the S+P symbol

best I could do to represent what they've done

[sharp mango]

why not PSOD

[gloomy anvil]

good catch

that would just be a reference to Embark's Patrick Söderlund then

[quick silo]

That symbol kinda looks like the balinese letter ra that was posted above no?

Yeah it was you who posted it 😄

[dull marsh]

Yes I was gonna say too PSOD is just Patrick lol

[alpine junco]

This might be a stretch but it could be RACE

[gloomy anvil]

This is a stretch but if "SACE" is an acronym for "Supreme Allied Commander Europe", the full acronym "SACEUR" is an anagram of "Saucer", as in "Flying Saucer"

[turbid sorrel]

saw a flying red thing up coming from a body and then it dissiapeared in the air? is this an easter egg or something, have screenshots but cant post them

[gloomy anvil]

could you upload them to Imgur or a private server and share the image links perhaps? https://imgur.com/upload

[turbid sorrel]

i just looked at the screenshots and i think its just his watch and some accesories flying into the air for some reason, and i heard the blue dead body on the ground was rare, in my game everyone who died had it

[full plinth]

hmm

[limpid cloak]

Hey, I hope this doesn't get in the way. I've been here since yesterday and I have a question about an Easter egg. There's a banner in the store, in the ‘Noctovantage’ bundle. The banner is called Hot Gossip and there is a hidden number code, do you know what the number code stands for?
14 14 15 22 24
12 14 22 00 24
11 00 11 23 00

[alpine junco]

#1289041185549324288

[gloomy anvil]

We're not sure yet 🤔

any theories you have could help!