#easter-eggs

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crimson niche
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thanks

alpine junco
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lol

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no problem

crimson niche
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and thanks for the new rights!

lament grove
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Not sure if this is helpful but the cartridge gunner skin for the M11 has fingerprints on the barrel of the gun

unique spruce
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whatever that object shown in the charm is. egg-yolk colored looking center surrounded with a thin eggshell colored exterior

lament grove
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I can't post photos in this chat for some reason

sand crest
worthy nimbus
bright ruin
lament grove
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Thanks for the letting me know guys. I'm not usually active in discord servers and have no idea how they work. I will try to be more active so I can join the hunt

worthy nimbus
bright ruin
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It may not even be a hint and might actually just be a coincidence that it’s egg colored (white shell, yellow inside)

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We didn’t really look deep into it because it probably isn’t that significant to T3, if at all

fresh quiver
sharp sentinel
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Random, but the target dummies with guns in the practice rance specifically have the yellow skin for their guns. Probably nothing, and probably something someone has already found, but it seems like an oddly specific choice.

sharp flame
worthy nimbus
subtle lotus
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How's ee hunts going? Since s2 ive tried keeping up with yall but there a lot to unpack haha

worthy nimbus
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Not well

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SR just released a skin that's just a giant arrow at stuff we missed

fresh quiver
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"Euler proved that it was an irrational number, whose digits would never repeat. He also proved that the number can be represented as an infinite sum of inverse factorials:"

Getting back once again at Euler.

What if GoldenEgg would need to cross out every repeated letter?

hasty anvil
fresh quiver
glass salmon
bright ruin
dull marsh
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There is also Euler's disk which spins super fast 🤔 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_Disk (although not invented by Euler but much more recent)

Euler's Disk, invented between 1987 and 1990 by Joseph Bendik, is a trademarked scientific educational toy. It is used to illustrate and study the dynamic system of a spinning and rolling disk on a flat or curved surface. It has been the subject of several scientific papers.

bright ruin
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I looked into that but couldn't find any concrete connections, maybe someone else can

solid jay
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While almost certainly not this, it reminds me of brie cheese or like a powdered cake lol

solid jay
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We keep getting pointed at Euler so I think we need to exhaust this thread and then work with whatever it turns up.

bright ruin
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I don't know much about Euler other than his identity is always 0

solid jay
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Euler's equation of motion is used to solve the "spinning egg problem"

unkempt dune
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I finally know why Euler's identity is in a circle

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rob is advertising

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the address of the PO box is:

PO Box 1064
Woodland, CA 95776

snow walrus
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im not sure shopping websites could be clue?

bright ruin
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Euler's Identity, Euler's Formula
Are we not focusing on Euler's Polyhedral Formula with those?

bright ruin
unkempt dune
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No clue what you mean 🥴 /s

solid jay
bright ruin
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Rob swoops in to drop an eye emoji just to fuck with us

solid jay
bright ruin
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Interesting

bright ruin
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What's strange is, I don't think I see anyone mentioning the battle pass charm that literally cycles through shapeshifting Polyhedrons

Level 93 - Vector Collector "For contestants who are known to employ a triangulation attack in the arena"

Cycles through 5 polyhedron shapes

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At least not when I search for polyhedron in discord

solid jay
bright ruin
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Not sure

unkempt dune
solid jay
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It's also ironic that we keep getting OYE and Euler eventually went blind.

bright ruin
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I cracked it

Open Your Euler

unkempt dune
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Imagine if Euler's identity is supposed to make us focus on the identity of Euler himself

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he did found the study of topology

solid jay
bright ruin
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Euler had only 5 children who survived childhood

One named Johann... I wonder if this was named after Johann Lambert

wet locust
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Or am I thinking of the wrong one

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Ok nvm it's "In mathematics, topology is concerned with the properties of a geometric object that are preserved under continuous deformations, such as stretching, twisting, crumpling, and bending; that is, without closing holes, opening holes, tearing, gluing, or passing through itself."

bright ruin
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Are we sure we're focusing on the right Euler?

wet locust
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What other Euler's are there?

bright ruin
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His children

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Johann Albrecht Euler (27 November 1734 – 17 September 1800) was a Swiss-Russian astronomer and mathematician. Also known as Johann Albert Euler or John-Albert Euler, he was the first child born to the great Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler (1707–1783), who had emigrated [for the first time] to Saint-Petersburg on 17 May 1727. His mother was K...

wet locust
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Oh

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That's hist last name

bright ruin
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Swiss Russian astronomer and mathematician

1771, elected a foreign member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

wet locust
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First time checking EE after a couple of days so I didn't know what Euler was referring to lmao

solid jay
wet locust
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I won't understand anything lol, I just like seeing how you guys are progressing

bright ruin
dull marsh
wet locust
solid jay
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Topology would be a bunch of polyhedral vectors to form a map

crimson niche
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maybe all the hints to modelling on memo mayhem are pushing towards topology?

bright ruin
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Things may be connecting for once?

solid jay
bright ruin
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Does this bring us back to Euclidean spaces?

solid jay
dull marsh
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A vector space with no dimensions? 🤨

bright ruin
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Vector space is composed of vectors and has no magnitude or dimension

Euclidean space can be of any dimension and is based on coordinates

dull marsh
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So your vector coordinates are:

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(nothing)

bright ruin
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Like Ludonope said, basically Euclidean space is a finite-dimensional vector space

dull marsh
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Not sure why it would bring us to Euclid tho

bright ruin
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I guess implying that it has limitations, where a vector space does not

bright ruin
dull marsh
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Unless we had some actual stuff pointing to it Euclid ≠ Euler

bright ruin
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Yes, Polyhedrons
Euler's polyhedral formula

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or rather topological space

dull marsh
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Hmm, I see it but I'm not convinced

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Hope to be proven wrong tho

bright ruin
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What has you not convinced?

I feel the charm in the BP is pointing us toward this line of thinking, especially with the Sticky note pointing to euler's identity

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Polyhedral space is a certain metric space. A (Euclidean) polyhedral space is a (usually finite) simplicial complex in which every simplex has a flat metric. (Other spaces of interest are spherical and hyperbolic polyhedral spaces, where every simplex has a metric of constant positive or negative curvature). In the sequel all polyhedral spaces a...

dull marsh
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I'm just not seeing that linking with anything else for now, but I see the current thread you're following

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Just ignore me, I don't wanna stop you going there hug_friend

bright ruin
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I didn't want to keep going if you saw something that like really stuck out as not connecting lol, don't wanna go down a dead end!

solid jay
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Maybe this is what we need for burrw?

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It also would link to anti-aliasing stuff from the other day

bright ruin
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The hard part with that is figuring out how you utilize that to "increase" the resolution of burrw (or rather find it)

solid jay
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Thinking about how we could input the numbers into the formula from burrw

dawn coral
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hey, been away a few days, anything new since S2 dropped? hoping private lobbies have helped?

solid jay
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Or like maybe just straight up use the formula as the address?

bright ruin
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I dunno how we'd do that to be fair

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Some of the characters in the forumla aren't URL friendly

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Well I guess depending on how you write it

dull marsh
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The Gregori Aminoff Prize is an international prize awarded since 1979 by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences in the field of crystallography

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Could be relevant somehow, didn't find much linking it to anything else yet

eternal violet
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#easter-eggs message wasnt aware of this, but apparently ∅ inside eulers identity can refer to saturn

copper sequoia
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It does look like Saturn with its ring if you turn it a little

dull marsh
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Else we wouldn't even see them

eternal violet
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also OYE in A1Z26 (15, 25, 5) fits into saturn ring thicknesses (B ring 5-15m, A ring 10-30m, C ring 5m)

dull marsh
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Although with all the Saturn stuff I dumped yesterday I'm gonna assume that it's not right as there is no eyes 😭

fresh quiver
sharp flame
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I found part of this one

fresh quiver
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im bringing that back up time to time 😄

sharp flame
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we solved it lol

bright ruin
sharp flame
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Vulcan, AND Octopussy

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we got BOTH meanings!

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Sorry I'm still genuinely amazed I got this

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The birthday of a VA role in an obscure Audio episode of a Doctor Who spinoff haha

fresh quiver
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Im just praying again to SR.

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🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ friend 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

sharp flame
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golden egg and what else..

fresh quiver
sand crest
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we need to find the ques_tion of which the answer is "open your eyes"

sharp flame
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you're like, my favourite button on the calculator

sharp flame
fresh quiver
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open the egg?

sand crest
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2b || !2b

copper sequoia
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2b or not 2b?

sand crest
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that is the question

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we are blind to the 5 truths, we need to open our eyes 🥲

copper sequoia
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0, 1, 3.1415 or π, the number e, and the number i

marsh marsh
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I still really think we’re going waaaayyyy off track. He said we had everything we need. Open your eyes even implies that. I swear it’s going to be one of those things that’s so stupid just a variation of “gold egg” typed some special way or something

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I still haven’t had a chance to look back at all the previous passwords and how they were solved, I still need to do that

sharp flame
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Gold, Egg, Latin, Mirror, and Cipher??

bright ruin
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Potentially asked by another person:

Is it really o=0
or is it circle=0 Think

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Like yes I know o=0 in the 0vif0rm password
But, I wonder

cloud wyvern
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the password is the friends we made along the way

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OYE ❤️

sharp sentinel
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Or is it 0YE

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0 your euler?

fleet tundra
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wow

bright ruin
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Not quite, full picture would result in E=3=iii

sharp sentinel
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Just checked, can confirm the password isn't 0y0uriiiuliiir

spring plover
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Kinda just throwing it out there but has anyone looked into the times on the watches? Do the times even change?

bright ruin
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The time on the gold watch was relevant at one point (I think)

New watches are displaying your local/system time

sharp sentinel
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The glitchy digital watch one is also model 4000 (says in top left)

feral lagoon
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Just throwing a random idea :
Can't the open your eyes be related to Golden eye ?
I mean, it's the 5th james bond and kinda related to the gold idea. Plus, it's a huge actor of the video game history

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not the 5th but the fifth actor my bad

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I just looked up and it's the 6th my idea was trash my bad

twilit forge
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I wouldn't say its a bad lead, but rob has said that we have everything we need for this tier. At this point we're avoiding new leads and exploring things we already have

cloud wyvern
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IIRC the thing that ties into that is LIGO

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in BF4 you could fucking explode it and it would collapse much like it did in goldeneye (and then it actually happened in real life in 2020!)

dull marsh
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Arecibo, my loved one 😭

cloud wyvern
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not LIGO but Arecibo. But Arecibo helped LIGO discover gravitational waves. and is also likely the structure you can see in the lower right section of 70.68.71.67.72

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LIGO's discovery(!): LIGO 15, is said to have solidified the idea that gold is formed by violent reactions in binary star systems.

cloud wyvern
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and this is one of my can't prove it but i can see it theories WRT 70.68.71.67.72: it looks like to me that if you fold the image over itself you can create what looks like smoke/debris overlayed what may be Arecibo. Which again, would be a callback to its fictional and actual destruction.

cloud wyvern
feral lagoon
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also other shitty idea

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did we investigate what was written on the jacket ?

dull marsh
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Which jacket do you have in mind?

feral lagoon
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i can t send picture

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on the new trealer it s written T3:

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for the 2.1.0

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at the end of the trealer

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T3 : (a strange symbol) WPS76

dull marsh
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Good catch, not sure if it's been mentioned yet!

feral lagoon
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there is some other things written on it too but don't know if it's relevent

dull marsh
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Also there is the X on the jacket

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He's holding a disk with a star 🤔

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5 branches star

gloomy anvil
feral lagoon
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also there is a bar code on the left of the complete picture and some other colored thingy

bright ruin
dull marsh
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Ok ok, guess Discord skipped some of today's messages for me 😄

bright ruin
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Multiple Xs on that cosmetic set

dull marsh
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I thought I was up to date lol

bright ruin
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It wasn’t today but since the bundle dropped it’s been mentioned

dull marsh
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Ooooh, makes more sense

feral lagoon
bright ruin
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You’re good. Just informing that it isn’t new info. We’re struggling to work with what we have any not get distracted as it is lol

cloud wyvern
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has the letter i been used in any password yet. as in i = i not like vi = g/6

bright ruin
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Vitellus

cloud wyvern
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👍

bright ruin
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Technically it still reads vi though, but is not 6

feral lagoon
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also what I called the strange symbol kinda looks like the avicii symbol

cloud wyvern
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livi0ivii

man look how close that is to being mirrored

slim reef
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So this is going to be waaay left field... but rabbits, white rabbit.. also in the matrix.. MATRix is a combination chemo and targeted therapy drug for.... CNS lymphoma..

Likely has zero to do with any of the Easter eggs but you never know 😆

feral lagoon
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I looked up the symbol and for avicii it meant this :
In addition to the elegant, stylish look, the emblem had a meaning, which was easily deciphered by anyone who knew the musician's name. The two triangles symbolized the first two letters of his nickname, and also represented the "play" button (or other buttons used to move around a piece of music).

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avicii is made of lots of i which everyone is so fond of and the play button idea kinda connect

bright ruin
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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Avicii is not related to gold eggs

cloud wyvern
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its arguably a PETSCII symbol combonation.

AVICII
PETSCII
ASCII

cloud wyvern
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just flipped and rotated a bit

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nice embed IDIOT

bright ruin
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It’s just an abstract AV
Not quite sure this is a good path to go down

cloud wyvern
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so more likely the symbols you are looking at on the jacket is more related to PETSCII because that has beome an apparent theme.

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oh for sure.

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just bullshitting yknow

bright ruin
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Sure

dull marsh
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Wasn't AVICII swedish tho? XD

feral lagoon
cloud wyvern
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charlie_stringboard.jpg

feral lagoon
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yephe was

worthy nimbus
feral lagoon
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at the end of his life he also went spiritual way but don 't remenber which religion.
We can maybe connect to the 5 truth idea

cloud wyvern
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a lot of artists tend to become "spiritual" at some point to be fair

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i think its something that naturally happens when you get the fame and success you always wanted but its still Not Enough

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so you turn to faith

bright ruin
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I don’t think introducing new, and potentially out there, speculation into the mix is a good idea right now. The goal currently seems to be nailing down what we have. We have had everything we need to solve T3

feral lagoon
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yeah, he went full bouda mode or something like this

bright ruin
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No, it’s a lot of info

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Padlet+discord search is your friend, sorry

cloud wyvern
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i'm really fixated on LIGO being a big part right now. with the english definition of it being "to bind" and rob using the word "combind" a whole lot

bright ruin
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For now anyways, we’ll have a more organized padlet alternative at some point

cloud wyvern
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it's significance in it's discoveries

feral lagoon
bright ruin
worthy nimbus
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my personal white whale is eyes on Chuck Peddle. surely he's not just used to get us to the commodore PET? but then what else? sirius systems?

cloud wyvern
feral lagoon
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yeah but the kyne one seems a bit outdated

bright ruin
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For now

tidal harness
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any cool ee yet

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fellow ee hunters

dusk veldt
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Has anybody taken a look at the new gun skin? Is there anything interesting on the sticky notes?

bright ruin
feral lagoon
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there is something written on the papercrayon btw

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don't know if this had been seen

eternal violet
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rob said s2 will have clues more for t3, so its not wrong to look for more info instead of what we have

worthy nimbus
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i mean, a jacket explicitly saying "T3:xxx" should be a pretty good clue

eternal violet
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already been 4 months of "you have everything you need" and feels like we didnt move an inch

bright ruin
feral lagoon
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guys

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what the fuck is holtow

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just quick google it

cloud wyvern
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an insurance company

feral lagoon
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it's written on the resistant pack

cloud wyvern
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they sponsor me

feral lagoon
cloud wyvern
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lol come on man do you play the game

feral lagoon
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I'm kinda new so everything discovered for me is new ...

bright ruin
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I’d go brush up on the wiki then

feral lagoon
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that's what I'm trying to do but the wiki plus everything discovered so far

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it's kinda hard to keep up

bright ruin
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Start with the wiki, then come back. You’ll think everything is a clue if you don’t understand what’s already grounded in the game world

snow walrus
worthy nimbus
cloud wyvern
# feral lagoon it's kinda hard to keep up

yeah i mean, we are deep in the weeds right now so any clues we are trying to figure out are gonna be not surface level. there are tons of threads in this channel where we are trying to solve older puzzles to see if there is anything we can glean from them.

hasty anvil
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tbh tier 2 was so easy, we just massively over complicated it

cloud wyvern
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that isn't to say, that the answer isn't also like right in our fucking faces

plucky kettle
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write it in binary lol

cloud wyvern
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there is a supposed character limit to the password and the answer would have to be only 3 characters in binary IIRC

bright ruin
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lowercase letters and numbers, no spaces

cloud wyvern
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the character limit is implied as from what i can tell it can go pretty dang long

bright ruin
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I think square space character limit is 30? Not 100% certain

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Never-mind, 6-100

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Wait hang on

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This shit is confusing, damn squarespace faq

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Page passwords ARE 30 or fewer

cloud wyvern
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so yeah... 3 characters in binary

feral lagoon
cloud wyvern
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yeah thats just... squarespace...

bright ruin
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Yeah lol

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You’re literally just poking their cdn

feral lagoon
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feck I feel like i'm miles behind you guys

cloud wyvern
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dont get me wrong, i encourage the enthusiasm for discovery

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keep at it for real

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but look around the most active threads and see where we are at

bright ruin
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Yeah don’t get discouraged just because you didn’t know something

cloud wyvern
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there used to be a point where there were 2-3 people dropping in here a day going HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THIS HOLTOW WEBSITE???? so we may be a little snippy about it

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and the fucking roses

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and the flashing moon

bright ruin
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Used to be? There still is LOL

cloud wyvern
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it has decreased

bright ruin
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Thankfully so

feral lagoon
slim reef
# feral lagoon feck I feel like i'm miles behind you guys

It's hard to keep up with for sure. There is a lot to absorb. The padlet just boggles my mind at this point, but I also need to view on on a monitor instead of a phone.

I also have a feeling we may be over complicating the password but who knows

feral lagoon
bright ruin
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Padlet is AWFUL to navigate. I started trying to draft an alternative but it might take a bit to nail down the approach. Lulz is also working on an Obsidian vault

cloud wyvern
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the padlets are very............... messy. i think there is probably a lot of non-actionable info on them. which is why some of us are going back to the original images to see what we can solidify.

feral lagoon
bright ruin
feral lagoon
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also on the link they are all some letter exept a few

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we are currently at the letter f (number 6)

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are the one with a letter a b c d e the 5 truth ?

bright ruin
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I’m confused by what you’re saying

cloud wyvern
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@feral lagoon like, for example, i'm not gonna put them on blast, but there was someone here who sometimes just spams the most schizo edits to images you have ever seen, just a stream of white noise cluttering shit up, but one of their edits came just at the right time that gave me an extreme HOLY FUCK moment that helped me solve a mystery i was working on for like a week.

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so there are occasions where white noise actually can clutch

worthy nimbus
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bad news bear, i can set my resolution to whatever i want on linux but the game won't let me get past 4k

feral lagoon
worthy nimbus
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(and it seems like the screenshots it take are still 1440p anyway)

turbid tinsel
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Lol

cloud wyvern
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i love your schizo edits

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never stop

bright ruin
feral lagoon
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there was t1- a b c d e f and after that it went rogue

bright ruin
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there is no t2 url

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it skips t1 to t3

feral lagoon
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yep and the letter went back to f

bright ruin
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it didn't go back to f, it went to f-1

feral lagoon
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the 6th letter

dull marsh
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Wtf, anyone familiar with Photoshop, do you have any idea of why when I'm changing blending options to get only 1 channel (R, G or B) the result appears in the opposite color? Like the Blue channel appear all yellow...

bright ruin
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t2def is t1-def

cloud wyvern
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i say this as a big offender of schizo edit posting myself BTW

feral lagoon
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at the t3 it skipped to f

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it's not going back to a b c d e

cloud wyvern
dull marsh
cloud wyvern
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you need to isolate it to one channel

dull marsh
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Weird tho

turbid tinsel
feral lagoon
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wait

cloud wyvern
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if you remove just the blue channel, you have red and green, which makes:

feral lagoon
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does the other rob discord clue connect with the others ?

bright ruin
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I'm so lost

worthy nimbus
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"the other" there are like 50 of them

cloud wyvern
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basically making CMYK channels in RGB.

worthy nimbus
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it's so small tho

sharp sentinel
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bottom right one looks like LO4

cloud wyvern
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3 of the worst guns.

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or weapons

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w/e

sharp sentinel
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Riot shield is good... 😦

cloud wyvern
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BZZT

worthy nimbus
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shotgun is great, sniper dominates in power push

cloud wyvern
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i cook riot shielders alive SORRY I DERAILED PLEASE STOP

sharp sentinel
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Yeah to be fair the shield being made of cardboard is accurate

turbid tinsel
bright ruin
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"Money $" It's the Vault going into the cashout

turbid tinsel
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NVM I guess you can see it still

bright ruin
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LO4

Dunno what that object is, a grenade of sorts? (edit: its a helmet)

worthy nimbus
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helmet?

bright ruin
worthy nimbus
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the one in the mercenary bundle specifically, though i think there is also a reskin that's not in a bundle

cloud wyvern
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looks like a bit of namatama got splatted on that cardboard too

bright ruin
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Does anyone else find it disorienting that the padlet labels the sections as t1b when the origin image is from t1a? Would it be more clear to label it as t1a->t1b? (asking for my own system I'm working on )

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Followed by t1b->t1c, etc

cloud wyvern
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i find padlet just unpleasant to interface with in general

bright ruin
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Oh for sure, I'm not working with padlet, I'm just trying to determine the best naming scheme

or just put all of t1a-f into a big whiteboard layout and section them accordingly?

turbid tinsel
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It feels so good

bright ruin
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what was micro? Miro?

cloud wyvern
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Anything that could thread/subfolder/itemize things that allows for stringing between them??? i saw a website once that i think the creator coded themselves that was so good in this way

turbid tinsel
feral lagoon
cloud wyvern
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click on one topic and it would explode out into subtopics, click a subtopic and it exploded out into other topics that tie in

snow walrus
worthy nimbus
feral lagoon
bright ruin
cloud wyvern
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rob only speaks in clues

feral lagoon
worthy nimbus
# feral lagoon top right my bad

i'm sorry but i don't have to time to entertain what you're saying. if you want to investigate further i'm not stopping you but i will no longer be trying to understand

bright ruin
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oh additionally... idk if we've talked about this but, "the beginning" of the level would technically be the end of level 1? Like isn't the info in which we unlocked t1a not visible on tfee-level2? yet is still needed?

cloud wyvern
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it had to do with mental health stuff, like how ADHD is tied to X, Y, Z. stuff like that

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again, IIRC, it was something that the person who coded it only did for just that site, so i don't think its something that is out there for use

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nodes, god that was the word i was looking for, interactive nodes that would explode out as you clicked them.

worthy nimbus
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that's p good

cloud wyvern
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yeah, something like that would own

bright ruin
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That's obsidian

cloud wyvern
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oh hell yeah

bright ruin
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Lulz is working on an Obsidian vault

cloud wyvern
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oh hell yeah x2

hearty meteor
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isnt obsidian paid

bright ruin
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I thought about using Obsidian Canvas but ultimately, it'd be a bit tedious to share

bright ruin
hearty meteor
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hm ig that was something else then

bright ruin
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only if you want to use their built in sync function, but syncthing or git works just fine

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I'm currently using TLDRAW for mind map. No nodes unfortunately but there are pages. Currently I'm throwing all of Level 2 into a single page, separated by Frames. Separate pages for Diamond Clue progress

terse flint
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moist

bright ruin
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middle mouse to click drag is chefkiss

dull marsh
fresh quiver
bright ruin
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Padlets are shit to navigate

cloud wyvern
solid jay
bright ruin
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Well I think the order is technically g=6=vi

So yeah 6=vi but maybe vi=/=6

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vi=g?

solid jay
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so youre saying precedence matters

bright ruin
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Perhaps

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Similar to e=3 but 3=iii

solid jay
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so is that potentially our cypher?

bright ruin
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which I believe it's e=3=iii

solid jay
#

letters = numbers = numerals

bright ruin
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Maybe, but the question is, does it loop?

bright ruin
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Maybe the process is on to something

solid jay
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yeah i'm just trying to think about how old passwords were formed

feral lagoon
bright ruin
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I'm also wondering if EOY = OYE is a DIRECT telling of us to MOVE THE LETTER E to the end Think

sharp flame
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I've figured out a way to put 👀 everywhere without actually reacting with 👀

patent seal
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The answer is the square root of -1

sharp flame
bright ruin
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iyi see

sharp flame
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i • ln(i) = -0.5π

snow walrus
outer scroll
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are we still.. stuck where we were..?

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from like october?

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t3 or something?

marsh marsh
#

Yes

outer scroll
#

holy fuck.

snow walrus
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still T3 but we have made a lot since october

outer scroll
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that is impeccable to me.

snow walrus
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we kinda stuck around late december-january

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because Rob says we have everything we need to proceed

gloomy anvil
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no eyes or response to any of the date/birthdate stuff we looked at recently sad_friend

snow walrus
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we fell into the deep burrow

outer scroll
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it perplexes me how its not been found yet.

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let alone, given away.

marsh marsh
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We still haven’t figured out the full meaning behind the white rabbits in Seoul. What to do with roses in practice range. Whatever is hidden in Vegas. Three headed monkey in Monaco.

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Generators

outer scroll
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outrageous

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that's extraneous

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that's something else I think.

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I thought we had everything we needed in december-januaury.

marsh marsh
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The most exciting thing to come out recently is getting out of bounds but then you get swarmed by the EE hall monitors telling you it’s wrong to use glitches

outer scroll
#

EE?

bright ruin
#

Easter Egg

outer scroll
#

mm.

solid jay
fallen jasper
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Easter Huevo hug_friend

solid jay
#

You literally bring this stuff up at every chance you get.

outer scroll
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I still think CNS stands for central nervous system and Ospuze attacks the central nervous system and brainwashes you into playing the game and you're looped in meatspace with this game playing.

outer scroll
#

hey, thanks!

solid jay
outer scroll
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it's already in there or I should put it in there?

solid jay
outer scroll
#

very well.

jade citrus
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I'm going to try to list the big ideas for this tier...

outer scroll
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shared and sorted.

outer scroll
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I mean there's places I can go for that but if you're already writing it out..

jade citrus
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Password: golden egg/gold egg
Modifiers: Latin, Mirror, Leet
Other Themes (additional modifiers?): C64, Space, Time

outer scroll
#

holy shit yeah we're exactly where I left off.

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like months ago.

jade citrus
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There are some clues that don't really fit in, like Nobel Prize and Euler's Identity

outer scroll
#

hm.

acoustic canyon
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We pushed Nobel prize for a while and didn't get much out of it afaik. And a few people have been looking into euler for most of today

jade citrus
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so we're getting clues that just point back to square 1

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:(

bright ruin
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Well we sorta did

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Smashel got the closest to realizing Nobel

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I quoted it a while ago, but Rob said "next time you're on a roll just enter the password so we can move on"

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Which sounds like Smashel was really close

feral lagoon
#

Just wondering for you guys does the pp7 from golden eyes looks more like the V9S or the 93R ?

jade citrus
worn flame
bright ruin
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#easter-eggs message

Please just write the next password when you are on the roll, so we can move on to future levels, haha... ._.

jade citrus
solid jay
bright ruin
solid jay
# bright ruin I tried to dig around that time but I came up empty handed. But it sounds like o...

The Institute of Combinatorics and its Applications (ICA) is an international scientific organization formed in 1990 to increase the visibility and influence of the combinatorial community. In pursuit of this goal, the ICA sponsors conferences, publishes a bulletin and awards a number of medals, including the Euler, Hall, Kirkman, and Stanton M...

bright ruin
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Unsure, I haven't seen it

solid jay
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They have a Euler Medal as an award

dusk veldt
#

Do these numbers have any significance?

bright ruin
solid jay
feral lagoon
solid jay
bright ruin
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Sometimes I wonder if Rob's even here anymore

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or if we're just never getting more eyes

acoustic canyon
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We used up our eye supply for tier 3

bright ruin
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This stuff was already broken down tbf

dusk veldt
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Oh sorry, i cant keep up with these things, i havent been here for the past few days

bright ruin
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Not entirely, some stuff came up empty, but a lot of it was discussed at least. Discord search will show you where, maybe you have something to add to that existing discussion

terse hawk
#

Has anyone looked through the static that is playing on HOLTOW's webiste?

bright ruin
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I had to, I'm sorry

sharp sentinel
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poor fella was just excited about the static

bright ruin
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We were all excited once, now look at us

sharp sentinel
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the definition of insantity

sharp flame
ancient drum
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Isn't it on the heels of that clothing set you were looking at a while back?

bright ruin
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Yes, the shoes of the cyber dude

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I think. Idk it's name

ancient drum
#

Sorry, but does anyone know where I can look specifically for what information we gained off of the question marks? There doesn't seem to be much on the padlet

feral lagoon
#

also what did the investigation on the lvl 32 battle pass reward's lead to (the small screen) ?

fallow agate
#

Have we gotten the rabbits yet?

feral lagoon
#

how can I share a picture ?

bright ruin
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copy paste

feral lagoon
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don t have the rank :/

snow walrus
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upload to imgur

feral lagoon
bright ruin
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I'd start checking the threads so you don't waste time digging up stuff we already have

solid jay
feral lagoon
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I mean you have to go frame by frame to find it so kinda not obious

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also how can you access all those thread ?

limpid yarrow
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are you on mobile or pc ?

bright ruin
solid jay
sharp sentinel
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Just posted some (probably useless) generator stuff in the generator thread which (by the looks of it) people hadn't found yet

solid jay
sharp sentinel
bright ruin
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Well the generator discussion I had from figuring out what it's most likely pointing to was in VC, and #1178137622359593043

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As the values are not what's important, but the parameters

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They're what you find on a Signal Generator, one that is used to generate waves (Sine waves for example)
I'm an audio guy, lots of connections made, most in that burrw thread

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I posted most of that in the wron place, oops

bright ruin
solid jay
bright ruin
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Yeah

sand crest
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Maybe our problem is that we keep shutting down newcomers with "read the padlet" and "use the search feature" too much. We can't find new clues/links on the same info if everyone takes the same routes and whatever else was found from someone else "as is". Let them connect the dots differently otherwise we'll keep running in circles for another 4 months. The only thing that really matters is Rob's eyes in my opinion.

hearty meteor
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you have a point, but then we also have to explain a lot more and wouldn’t be able to focus on solving the stuff we have on padlets which are unsolved

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so it would decease overall efficiency

sand crest
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yeah that's just it, discussions can bring new ideas to the table..

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even on the same clues.. since we "have what we need"

hearty meteor
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it is very tiring having to discuss the same thing over and over without coming to a conclusion bc sometimes people just need info to get started

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but i see what you mean and i kinda agree

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its just not very realistic imo

bright ruin
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No one wants to go over solved stuff from ground 0 again

hearty meteor
#

^

bright ruin
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We're trying to piece together our clues, not resolve them

sand crest
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im just thinking out of the box since this clearly isn't working on this tier... sure, let them read up to T2 stuff, but let them discuss your findings (all images/texts for T3) in a different light, maybe they find something else that makes more sense than what we have right now

bright ruin
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Discussing subjects is not the same as the 97th "have you seen the holtow website"

slim reef
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Can you make TLDR pinned post for the noobs or something so you can just say check the pin lol

hearty meteor
bright ruin
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@solid jay has one he copy pastes. I think he's tried to get it pinned

slim reef
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Gotcha

sand crest
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yeah, dont tell them to go look for what we've found immediately i mean.. tell them to go around and play with it too, maybe we missed something and we thought "ok, no more clues here"

hearty meteor
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but this isnt really a tldr

bright ruin
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They won't k now what to play with until they learn what's available though, so telling them to readup is still the first step regardless

sand crest
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yes, but then they'll most likely think like us and get stuck like us

hearty meteor
#

i think the roses are a good example

sand crest
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that's what im trying to avoid

bright ruin
#

Not necessarily

hearty meteor
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its not been documented well (imo) and people have not been solving anything there

bright ruin
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I've brought new ideas to the table and I started by reading up
Asking for clarification where I didn't understand

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Yeah the padlet is cluttered with useless shit. That's why I'm trying to build out my own that trims off all the stuff that isn't really relevant or a confirmed clue

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It's more for me than anything, but willing to share when done

hearty meteor
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and it halted all progress and motivation for a good three days

sand crest
hearty meteor
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progress as in nobody was even looking at anything new

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or spitting new ideas

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thats how overwhelming it was

terse hawk
bright ruin
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What are you on about

terse hawk
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yes and some guy decided to be mad about it

bright ruin
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No one was mad about it

feral lagoon
#

as a newcomer, I kinda agree with nCr, it's very hard to catch up every thing so far there just too much information everywhere. I find it a bit hard to just find the info and clues already found. So to read them on a padlet with just big squares everywhere and an horrible interface or juggle between 100 discord topics

hearty meteor
bright ruin
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That's not being mad about it dude

terse hawk
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but yes

bright ruin
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That's a general statement

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what are you smoking

feral lagoon
#

Also when you ask a random question, I get it that's the 100th+ times you guys have heard it but it seems a bit harsh sometimes when you respond

hearty meteor
feral lagoon
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It doesn't help newcomer to stay on the egg chase

hearty meteor
#

and the issue with the padlet is real, but finding a solution to it is… not exactly easy

hard forge
#

what are you guys doing here?

hasty anvil
#

Guys remember we were all newcomers at one point, try not to get frustrated when people ask about these things, they're curious and don't know where to look for info

hearty meteor
#

discussing if we should change anything regarding newcomers, which we should, but the question really is what we should change

feral lagoon
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Just give the feeling that the old ones are here since the begining, knows everythings and did everything. The feeling that you will never catch up so why keep trying

bright ruin
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The effort toward making a better "go here" gathering of info is in progress, but it is a lot of info to consolidate elsewhere. it takes time

hasty anvil
hearty meteor
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and it took me a week anyways

bright ruin
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We point people to the sources of info we have because you can't expect everyone to answer the 97th repeat question and go into detail about it. That's a big ask. Those people used their time to either catch up or solve it, you can use yours to do the same

hard forge
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@fallen jasper pin?

hearty meteor
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i think you also have to go into here with an expectation to not understand jackshit at first

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because it really is just that complex

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it could be better but idk by how much

fallen jasper
#

Nearing the pin limit wah

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By nearing it I mean we are at it lol

bright ruin
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It's a LOT. I managed to catch up, and I still ask questions where I don't fully understand. That's what you have to do. But don't ask every single thing you come across without at least attempting to search for it in discord/padlet/other places first to save everyone some time and headache

hasty anvil
bright ruin
hasty anvil
hard forge
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un pin? maybe? idk

sand crest
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i think we need a single document / obsidian file where only confirmed truths & truth correlations are on for this tier and nothing else, just so we don't nurture the newcomers too much. (im saying this but I haven't checked the pinned obsidian yet)

hasty anvil
hasty anvil
bright ruin
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The issue with padlet is, it's horrible to navigate and is very easy to turn people away

feral lagoon
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Just a thead with everything eyed so far could be great, I can't even find this

unkempt dune
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weird wires at data center that don't go anywhere

bright ruin
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we have a google sheet for this

sand crest
hasty anvil
sand crest
hasty anvil
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Also Rob recently has been telling us when he eyes things cause of how cluttered chats are now

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Or he'll respond in coversation

hard forge
#

It's old tho, I will update it later.

hasty anvil
feral lagoon
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I think that kinda pinpoint the issue here, the info exist, the document exist, they are just everywhere and just too hard to find on your own without spending a decade trying to find those

bright ruin
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And, like I said, we know

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which is why there are efforts to make it easier to access and understand

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But for now, all we have is what we can point you to, so it's what has to be worked with

dull marsh
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Nobel Prize is a medal: 2 sides
Neutron star merger: 2 neutron stars
Binary stars: 2 stars

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Ab ovo makes me think of egg or birth

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Are we looking for twins?

bright ruin
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Twin what though Think Opposites?

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Magnets? i.e. polarity? Not likely but a small consideration

dull marsh
sharp sentinel
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maybe something to do with double yolk eggs

sand crest
#

i re-read what was eyed by Rob early on for this tier. We got "gold and egg", "latin and.." eyed. What would be correct, space or mirror? Maybe it's as simple as having the latin word for gold (aurum) and a mirrored/space version of "egg"?

sand crest
daring bluff
#

i think we eventually got it confirmed that it was “mirror” after “and…”

dull marsh
daring bluff
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but we still need the 5th truth

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we’re not sure about space

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but gold, egg, latin, mirror are i think all but confirmed at this point

dull marsh
#

We're not even completely sure about gold and egg being truths or just two main threads

sand crest
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gold + egg, modifiers: latin, mirrored text, merged text (?)

shrewd fog
#

lol I just noticed Rob made his discord handle "rob_embark" the opposite of all the other names like "Embark | Dusty"

daring bluff
#

pretty sure that’s nothing

hasty anvil
#

Space was eyed, he doesn't eye incorrect things or things that would lead us down the wrong path

bright ruin
#

but eye's also don't guarantee T3 clues

feral lagoon
#

and also eyes doesn't guarantee it's one of the 5 truth

sand crest
#

in the context of those messages, wouldnt they be T3 related? :/

hasty anvil
bright ruin
#

yeah, just saying though haha

solid jay
feral lagoon
#

polyembryonic

solid jay
# terse hawk yes and some guy decided to be mad about it

and just quickly to touch on this, no one is mad, I made a joke about this cause we had JUST talked about it.

you can't take anything too personally here or discussions won't flourish. All we can do is direct newcomers to the material we have discovered and teach them how to participate.

sand crest
#

Rob also mentioned we haven't found clues from merging photos.. Is anyone good with merging the eyes & maybe mouths of namatamas?

bright ruin
solid jay
bright ruin
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When you see the pattern, hmm

sand crest
#

the eyes and mouth seem to have a weird pattern..

feral lagoon
sand crest
#

merging might show a letter or number

solid jay
feral lagoon
sharp sentinel
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google it, but put "gold" or "mirror" in front of it chemistegg

solid jay
solid jay
feral lagoon
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"great golden digger wasp"

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wasp are mostly polyembryonic from what i ve read

cloud wyvern
sand crest
#

same for just the eyes or just the mouths or both

bright ruin
solid jay
sand crest
#

what if we do a fourrier transormation to the egg

solid jay
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because that image has a lot of moire effect stuff going on potentially

sand crest
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(i have no idea of where to begin to even try this)

solid jay
#

I'll try my hand at some of this later gotta go make dinner

sand crest
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i should be sleeping so ill try some of my photoshop/illustrator skills tomorrow on some eggs

slate junco
#

There is a repeating pattern on the diamond sticker. Probably nothing, but who knows

quaint stream
#

Rayleigh scattering

feral lagoon
hasty anvil
#

And no theories, just facts

sharp sentinel
#

Cool stuff with the L2 T3 facts!

autumn jewel
#

Hello all! long time lurker here, just wondering if anyone has inspected the new FCAR skin with all the sticky notes?

bright ruin
dull marsh
#

Euler's identity seems to relate to some fundamental truths of mathematics

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Gravity is a recurring theme and is a fundamental force of the universe

dull marsh
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There is Euler reflection formula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_formula

In mathematics, a reflection formula or reflection relation for a function f is a relationship between f(a − x) and f(x). It is a special case of a functional equation, and it is very common in the literature to use the term "functional equation" when "reflection formula" is meant.
Reflection formulas are useful for numerical computation of spe...

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It's about even and odd functions, with a gamma function

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Odd -> O, Gamma -> Y, Even -> E 🤔

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Rob said that he had mentionned Euler and Phi in the past

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That leads to Euler's phi function, which is noted as Φ(x) or φ(x)

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In math notation the first Phi looks like a symbol we've seen many times now

feral lagoon
#

the circular graphic memo reminds me of Stereographic projection

dull marsh
#

We've had multiple clues about stereographic, stuff like the red and blue glasses

feral lagoon
#

wait isn't for an hexagonal crystal 622 the point of symetry

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"Phase Transformations, Crystallographic Aspects" chapter

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and isn't 6 and 2 the number you can read on the memo ?

hasty anvil
#

also the roulette wheel numbers usually add up to 666 - but on the lewis it's 622

dull marsh
bright ruin
#

American vs Eu roulette btw, just incase you were wondering why they are different

dull marsh
#

Damn that's wild, they had to take into account the curvature of the earth to make sure that all arms were perfectly aligned, never thought of that on such a small scale

hasty anvil
#

some specific numbers are repeated/missed

bright ruin
#

Well the order of the numbers is changed, which is also important

hasty anvil
#

if it's a specific +/- shift that would be interesting

feral lagoon
#

The euler angle are pretty much the base of the mechanic referential so you can find relation to anything

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they are also the base of the Stereographic projection

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although I'm pretty sure hexagonal is the exeption because some people use 4 coordinates on hex coordinate system with the orientation of an atomic mesh

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The euler angles are based on a 3-dimensional linear system so you can't directly apply them in that case

dull marsh
#

Ok so I'm digging a bit on the Amiga logos that Rob posted a while ago and there are actually a few interesting things in there that seem to link up with the rest

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(for reference this is the image posted by Rob)

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  • spectrum of light
  • bouncing on a mirror
  • shape of a V
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A black-on-white and a white-on-black versions of the same logo
Basically the colors are inverted, or mirrored

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A sphere, just like a star, planet
Also looks like a mesh which makes me think of early video game and of topology (Euler)
Also link to Euler with rotations, Euler's identity, ...

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This one is the same but also mirrored

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Text is mirrored, also the V 1.3 which contains both V and 3 (recurring in previous passwords)

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Commodore logo which is symmetrical horizontally
Also have the blue-red reference to stereography

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This one at the center might mean something about what we need to do, not sure tho, we need a few more ideas to come and complement all of that

turbid tinsel
#

so Chuck peddle is connected to the 6502, and i think there is a bigger picture there, as we have gotten a decent amount of in game items relating to the 6502

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well maybe not alot but at least one.

dull marsh
#

I'm seeing that there is Atari CX-2605 which seems to be linked to some big Arcade games

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Especially in 1979 with Asteroids

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Or Lunar Lander

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And we might have quite a few references to asteroids (although not all confirmed)

  • 1064 Aethusa
  • 10853 Oye
  • 93 Minerva
turbid tinsel
#

chuck worked for motorolla before developing the 6502, and the company itself was targeting other electronic companies like s Hewlett-Packard, Tektronix, TRW, and Chrysler. trw is related to areo space, tektronix developed oscilloscopes, and we just got an oscilloscope charm

dull marsh
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The vector display technology (vector -> Euler?) rose to prominence via Atari's Asteroids

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Atari maybe very well be relevant as it was sold to Commodore in 1984, before the release of the Amiga in 1985

hard forge
#

@dull marsh at this point I think you need your own padlet.

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I hope that you are at least writing your findings somewhere else too

dull marsh
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No, but they're mostly in my head

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But yeah I should make a padlet or something like that

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Just not a big fan of padlet in itself

hard forge
hard forge
bright ruin
#

Might take a sec to get used to, heck I'm still figuring it out, but it's smooth

dim totem
#

But you'll have to help me with what to put in it 😓

bright ruin
#

Wait new idea

dull marsh
bright ruin
#

Because tldraw has pages, we can just keep it all in the same "document" so to speak, but you can put your own brainstorming into a separate page, that way it's easier to move it to the main page if it ends up being correct. (There's a function for that!)

hard forge
dull marsh
#

My brain: forgets an appointment the next day
Also my brain: remembers that Einstein was born on March 14 and published his first of the four "miracle" papers on March 17

bright ruin
#

Relatable

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I just realized they have a feature to fork projects in tldraw too. This app/site is awesome

dim totem
#

is it free?

dull marsh
#

I gotta admit tho I'm a bit lazy to put all of that in shape, it's gonna be quite a project

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We should solve T3 quickly and forget about it

bright ruin
dull marsh
#

Come on everybody, let's solve T3 tonight!

bright ruin
#

Granted, I have backups but still

hard forge
#

Lets make our own board (use whatever you like) and compare it later on VC

dim totem
bright ruin
#

Crawl into my DM's and I can provide you with a collab link for this

dull marsh
#

My train of thought is to connect everything I can, which ends up creating many "pretty" but irrelevant connections...

hard forge
#

Remember to search up your own text and obviously Rob's messages.

bright ruin
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Oh that's neat, you can have a separate read-only link too rather than a snapshot link. Then people can view the board without editing, but still see the most up to date version 😎

dull marsh
#

Interesting that GoldenEye 007 was the first game to receive the Game of the Year award

hard forge
dull marsh
#

(I'm thinking award from the Nobel prize)

dim totem
bright ruin
#

hamburger menu top left, preferences

dim totem
#

prayge 🙏

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thank you

bright ruin
dim totem
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nope i didn't!

bright ruin
#

I'll dm you then!

dull marsh
#

Oooooh, the Electronic Gaming Awards (formerly Arcade Awards)

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First one in 1979 was for Space Invaders

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Then in 1980 for Asteroids (arcade and standalone)

hard forge
#

@dull marsh I need it on threads and pins

dull marsh
#

Then in 1981 for Asteroids (console) and Star Raiders (computer)

bright ruin
#

Anyone else wanna come hop on the tldraw board? dancingcat

hard forge
#

i am on document duty.

bright ruin
#

sipSweat What's that mean

hard forge
#

I will probably write a summary of T3 till March end

bright ruin
#

OH like a synopsis of it all?

hard forge
bright ruin
#

Heck yeah

dull marsh
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The MOS 6502 was too expensive, to Chuck Peddle proposed the 6507 microprocessor, which was the CPU of the Atari VCS or Atari 2600

dim totem
#

Quick question, where do you guys get the official map layouts you guys draw over?

dull marsh
bright ruin
#

Ohhh that's what it was

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Links in your dms btw

dull marsh
#

Damn sliding in my DMs like that... smooth

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Looks so much like what we need lol

bright ruin
#

Yeah, and it's free and open source, unlike miro which has collaboration restrictions

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The pages are SO nice, and the fact that it only takes a right click and a couple menu clicks to move items to another page is huge

marsh marsh
#

Anyone tried or found anything in the new tutorial

dull marsh
hard forge
#

we didn't progress from nobel did we?

turbid tinsel
dull marsh
#

Nobel might just link to gold, but it has some interesting ideas associated: Swedish, explosives (dynamite), medal, prize, sciences

bright ruin
#

Rob seemed to be hinting at more than just gold though

marsh marsh
#

I’m attempting to get out of the map now don’t arrest me

dull marsh
marsh marsh
#

I glitched through the map and now I’m forever falling

bright ruin
dull marsh
#

OYE / Open Your Eyes -> Secret of the Monkey Island

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  • released on Amiga and Atari ST (among others)
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  • set during the piracy golden age
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  • piracy might be a reference to the hacker and demo scene back then
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Hmm, there was the North Star Horizon, a personal computer made in 1977

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Not that much interesting apart from its name

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It's also made by North Star Computers

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Initials are NSC, which sounds like... C̶̈́̍Ṅ̷̀$

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The company was formed by Mark Greenberg and Charles Grant, who started Kentucky Fried Computer

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🤣

turbid tinsel
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has anyone been able to isolate the lettering in the middle of the screenshot VVV image yet?

random bramble
turbid tinsel
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maybe we need an acronym?

dull marsh
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I'm thinking that, since we got SYS 64738 and T1 ended with C64 "LOAD" and "READY", we might need to input some C64 command

random bramble
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The first one that comes to mind is RUN?

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Run what though

dull marsh
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Or maybe A82F STOP or A831 END

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Hmm, or we need to work our way from GOLD(EN) and EGG to a C64 command

bright ruin
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loading turned into ready on tier f to open tier 2 right?

dull marsh
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G=6 but also F=6, so GOLD could become 601D, replacing 6 by F and D by 4 (4th letter of the alphabet) it would be F014 which is send byte to the RS232 buffer (not sure how relevant, but you see the idea)

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Routine FE66 (containing E66, like EGG) is user function default vector, mention of vectors here

turbid tinsel
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fgge or fd10g

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or fd106

dull marsh
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It's hex, there is no G, and only 4 characters

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It's a pretty limited set

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Although we can also work with their decimal values, just like SYS 64738

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(note that the ?? are just because the description of the routine is complex or not well documented here, nothing more)

bright ruin
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Hey uh

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Crazy thing

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(maybe not crazy)

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PRINT EXP(1) Screen: 2.71828183

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That number sure is familiar huh

dull marsh
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Which routine is that?

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Seems interesting indeed

bright ruin
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EXP is a mathematical function that evaluates the inverse natural LOG of the argument. The argument "X" is applied as an exponent to e(2.71828183)
EXP(X) = e^x

dull marsh
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Routine BFED

bright ruin
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49133–57410
$BFED–E042

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I'm totally stretching here but E 0 42
O(Y)E 42(meaning of life, the universe, and everything)
I say a stretch because I don't recall Hitchhikers Guide to teh galaxy ever getting eyed

turbid tinsel
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nvm

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its ligo

bright ruin
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Oh lol I was confused

turbid tinsel
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unless the hint is we just need the letters from logi

cloud wyvern
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it always comes back to ligo

turbid tinsel
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but no lie i feel no closer than we were before we had eulers formula

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ect

twilit forge
dull marsh
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Idk, Euler could very well be pointing to vector operations with Euler angles and quaternions, which are very very very used in 3D videogames

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That would tie well to the retro video game era, although it was not really 3D at the beginning

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But Asteroids being one of the first vector graphics games could tie it in

cloud wyvern
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maybe if we ask nice rob will come in and give us a big wet hint

bright ruin
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Well hang on, nothing has tied back to ligo yet

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we're still working with euler

cloud wyvern
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it all ties back to ligo

bright ruin
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his number seems to be a frequent thing with 6502 Assembly onthe c64. Not entirely sure how, as I"m still looking, but it very well could point to something we need

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So this is a website literally all about the 6502 microprocessor & resources http://6502.org

There's a lot here though, too much to reasonably dig through but it's kinda neat regardless

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I'm not a huge math guy but are factorials and Euler tied in any way? His identity or his number ?

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Oh wait

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But factorials are counting down to 1 right? so my previous theory about how we had to go up the tiers to get to t3 may hold true that we need to do the inverse

marsh marsh
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There’s spots in the tutorial you can just slip a gateway under as a light and get behind the wall. But nothing so far

bright ruin
marsh marsh
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Sure I’ll go there

dull marsh
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Basically fac(0) = 1 and fac(x) = x*fac(x-1)

bright ruin
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Right so, we have t2abc which url is t1-f-1 or inverse function right? inverse of f... meaning f e d c b a

Or the factorial of the tiers, my initial theory of working backwards, but it seems our starting point has been defined for us? as t2abc

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I know that's not how inverse functions work but maybe, double meaning. Especially with reflection/mirroring being a theme

dull marsh
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Right now it doesn't make much sense but I see where you're trying to go

bright ruin
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I'm only surface level scraping based off of assembly in 6502 on the c64

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Trying to stay within the confines of the knowledge we have, and all of this still lies within it without going down any holes

dull marsh
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Euler is best known for inventing functional notation, f(x), as well as developing the trigonometric functions to represent sine, cosine, and tangent.
Definitely been mentioned before but doesn't hurt

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Euler first went blind in his right eye as a result of an illness he had suffered. Years later, another illness befell him, resulting in the loss of his other eye, leaving him totally blind.
Poor him, he couldn't open his eyes anymore...

bright ruin
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I'm wondering what the function of f is in regards to the tiers. Is that the password of F OR is that the password of tier2abc

Consider this for a moment:
Tier1F is where we had Loading. followed by ready. gif yeah?
Where we had to input the passcode to proceed. So in that case, the function of vitellus is e=3

In tier 2abc the inverse of f would be 3=e no? (if we assume that line of thinking to be correct)

Another way to look at it is that tier 2abc is the result of clearing t1f. Making the inverse function of f not mean the inverse of what we did in tier f but rather what is done in tier 2abc, aka g=6

But we do have the other idea being that g-1 is f which is then f=6, but that may be too convoluted and straying from the inverse function

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You might ask why would 3=e be important in tier 2abc. it's not. it's important for t3, the combination of gold and egg

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It cancels it out, so we don't apply e=3 to get 3vivi, it stays evivi... with e being Euler's Number???

dull marsh
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He introduced many current notations, such as Σ for the sum; the symbol e for the base of natural logarithms; a, b and c for the sides of a triangle and A, B, and C for the opposite angles; the letter f and parentheses for a function; and i for Square root of√−1. He also popularized the use of the symbol π (devised by British mathematician William Jones) for the ratio of circumference to diameter in a circle.
Bro is basically the father of all modern math god damn

bright ruin
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Even if that line of thinking isn't correct, maybe we shouldn't be converting e to 3 anyways, and it should be representing Euler's Number. Which would explain why we keep getting pointed to Euler

dull marsh
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Euler devoted considerable attention to developing a more perfect theory of lunar motion, which was particularly troublesome, since it involved the so-called three-body problem—the interactions of Sun, Moon, and Earth. (The problem is still unsolved.)
An interesting focus of his on astronomy

bright ruin
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e^6 = 403.42879

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Wasn't 403 a relevant number at some point

dull marsh
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No idea

bright ruin
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What tier was the 404 image on, c or d?

dull marsh
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I wasn't there back then hehe

bright ruin
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Wiki says T1C.

dull marsh
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Imma head out soon

cloud wyvern
bright ruin
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Not purple, Magenta

That's an important differential

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As Magenta doesn't exist on the color spectrum. Our minds literally make it up. It fills in the blank for us to bridge/close the color spectrum into a loop

cloud wyvern
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silly brains

bright ruin
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Rather, there's no wavelength of light for magenta. It's between red and purple (ends of the spectrum)
Which interestingly that ONE pixel rob posted, is red and blue, and in the middle, is magenta, not purple

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Well technically purple is there too, it has to be

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Well more accurately, that pixel follows RGB combination, where Red + Blue make magenta

unborn pilot
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I’ve been thinking c64 READY leads to LOAD next somehow for a while but just found this.

Load is $FFD5
Gold was #FFD7

bright ruin
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Which confused since normally it's Ready first on the c64 I believe

unborn pilot
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Ready is the first thing you see

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Then you type stuff

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It more so means the system is ready for a function

turbid tinsel
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what keys on the c64 keyboard are # and $?

bright ruin
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This could either support my theory of working down the tiers, with "ready" (t1f) being our start point still, and everything after being what you type. potentially 5 truths? (this last part is a stretch)

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Or it could be saying exactly how it happened, with tier 2 being the inputs. But the fact it had loading first perplexes me

bright ruin
bright ruin
crisp lantern
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has anybody mentioned the QR code (?) on the disco ak skin? theres parts of one on the irons at the front and another part on the slide. couldn't find another obvious one though

cloud wyvern
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there was one on the guitar too IIRC

crisp lantern
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oh yeah just looked, that one is big too

unborn pilot
crisp lantern
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hard to get a good photo cause of the light but it looks like it covers most of the front of it

bright ruin
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I think this is our "mirror", that we're looking for. Reversing the order of things

turbid tinsel
bright ruin
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You mean adding things up? Like the 1+2+3+4+5=??? that rob said?

unborn pilot
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My thought is FFD was to point to Gold (hex) and Egg (caesar shift)

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That’s the only place they crossover so far

bright ruin
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Hmmm potentially, it's a good line of thinking for sure

unborn pilot
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7 turned to 5 for the same reason we’re seeing vvv 555 and had 1551707 most likely

cloud wyvern
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I'm guessing these are bits of Klee on VVV.jpg

bright ruin
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I'm just really stuck on finding out where excactly this damn Euelr stuff fits. i really want to believe it's euler's number as the e in egg

turbid tinsel
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in the over saturated area in the center?

cloud wyvern
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you are gonna have to show me what you are talking about. all i'm seeing is the same shit in all the other images in this tier which is just a bunch of bits and pieces that need to be glued together, and its frustrating as all hell!

turbid tinsel
unborn pilot
dull marsh
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One thing I noticed is how the letters LIGO are spelled clockwise, in normal reading order you would expect the G and O to be inverted, but no.
Is that pointing to rotation? Like the bodies that create those gravity waves in the first place?

unborn pilot
bright ruin
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I read that earlier today and was like who the fuck is leon

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Leon S Kennedy??? lmao

dull marsh
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Leonhard Euler

bright ruin
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Yeah it makes sense now, but man I was confused earlier today

turbid tinsel
dull marsh
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I can't help but notice the similarity with the letters used for LIGO and GOLD, only i and d differs 🤔

dull marsh
cloud wyvern
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isn't that just the NA from THE FINALS spotlight being overlayed on them

dull marsh
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Not the same as pi no

bright ruin
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I see

turbid tinsel
dull marsh
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Euler reformulated Newton's laws of physics into new laws in his two-volume work Mechanica to better explain the motion of rigid bodies
Could link almost directly to gravity waves and LIGO

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Get ready for a stretch

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Euler spent some of his childhood in Riehen

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Just like Roger Federer

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Which could link to Tennis for Two (first "video game") or Pong

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I'm ready to see Rob eye that now 😂

bright ruin
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Robs not gonna read any of this, it’ll get buried so deep 😭

cloud wyvern
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i will simply guess the password by typing every possible 30 character combination starting with: a

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nope. didn't work. moving on to: b.

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shit. no go either.

dull marsh
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Euler grew up in Riehen and Basel, where there is the Beyeler Foundation, a museum

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With a total of 20 works, Paul Klee is the best represented artist in the Beyeler Collection after Pablo Picasso.

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Also Paul Klee was born and died in Switzerland

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a remarkable collection that includes masterpieces like Rising Star, 1931, 230 (V 10) and Signs in Yellow, 1937, 210 (U 10).

cloud wyvern
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i'm almost positive klee's signature has appeared in every image of this tier so far

dull marsh
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Interesting painting names, gonna have a look at that

cloud wyvern
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but again, all i got to back that up is "trust me bro"

gloomy anvil
cloud wyvern
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link it plz

gloomy anvil
drowsy warren
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Did we ever figure out the roses?

cloud wyvern
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interesting