#easter-eggs
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and thanks for the new rights!
Not sure if this is helpful but the cartridge gunner skin for the M11 has fingerprints on the barrel of the gun
whatever that object shown in the charm is. egg-yolk colored looking center surrounded with a thin eggshell colored exterior
I can't post photos in this chat for some reason
it's the opposite of a golden egg, it's a normal egg shell with golden yolk
You need to chat more before being able to post pictures. In the meantime, you can post your findings to imgur or another image host and link them
You have to level up. Use imgur for now
Thanks for the letting me know guys. I'm not usually active in discord servers and have no idea how they work. I will try to be more active so I can join the hunt
Ima be honest it just looks like a bit of drywall that's been torn off. Seeing an egg here is reading a lot into it.
Nah, I pointed out that it’s egg colored last night. I would say that it’s certainly not our answer though from a single charm
It may not even be a hint and might actually just be a coincidence that it’s egg colored (white shell, yellow inside)
We didn’t really look deep into it because it probably isn’t that significant to T3, if at all
even without much participating your already participating 🙂
Even when just researching things.
And about images?
Feel free to DM one of the regulars of this Channel with the images. We can post them as long as you cant post them yet
Random, but the target dummies with guns in the practice rance specifically have the yellow skin for their guns. Probably nothing, and probably something someone has already found, but it seems like an oddly specific choice.
It's a wall with yellow paint on it
Pre-beta footage has contestants use yellow guns, I think that's just a design decision that got scrapped but they never update the bots because there's no need
That's a good idea. Thank you
How's ee hunts going? Since s2 ive tried keeping up with yall but there a lot to unpack haha
"Euler proved that it was an irrational number, whose digits would never repeat. He also proved that the number can be represented as an infinite sum of inverse factorials:"
Getting back once again at Euler.
What if GoldenEgg would need to cross out every repeated letter?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paradoxes#Mathematics Scary page I just found
I just looked at it... my first thought was: Thats enough to get me nightmares again from T3 😂
Its hard to get a good look at but i noticed that too, "THIS" with a giant arrow, to what looks like an equation
There is also Euler's disk which spins super fast 🤔 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_Disk (although not invented by Euler but much more recent)
I looked into that but couldn't find any concrete connections, maybe someone else can
While almost certainly not this, it reminds me of brie cheese or like a powdered cake lol
We keep getting pointed at Euler so I think we need to exhaust this thread and then work with whatever it turns up.
I don't know much about Euler other than his identity is always 0
Euler's equation of motion is used to solve the "spinning egg problem"
I finally know why Euler's identity is in a circle
rob is advertising
the address of the PO box is:
PO Box 1064
Woodland, CA 95776
im not sure shopping websites could be clue?
Euler's Identity, Euler's Formula
Are we not focusing on Euler's Polyhedral Formula with those?
I think it's a joke
No clue what you mean 🥴 /s
The PO box being 1064 sent me 😂
Rob swoops in to drop an eye emoji just to fuck with us
Quick tangent from one Euler to another Euler. There is a Franz Euler who comes up when you google Euler Egg and like little egg shaped tins with lithograph art on them.
Interesting
What's strange is, I don't think I see anyone mentioning the battle pass charm that literally cycles through shapeshifting Polyhedrons
Level 93 - Vector Collector "For contestants who are known to employ a triangulation attack in the arena"
Cycles through 5 polyhedron shapes
At least not when I search for polyhedron in discord
Unfamiliar with this but it's just the more faces something has the more circular it becomes right?
Was discussed in voice chat day 1 or 2 of the new season. Pretty sure the battle pass thread has at least a picture
It's also ironic that we keep getting OYE and Euler eventually went blind.
Imagine if Euler's identity is supposed to make us focus on the identity of Euler himself
he did found the study of topology
Yeah that's kind of an interesting thread.
Euler had only 5 children who survived childhood
One named Johann... I wonder if this was named after Johann Lambert
The science that studies terrain?
Or am I thinking of the wrong one
Ok nvm it's "In mathematics, topology is concerned with the properties of a geometric object that are preserved under continuous deformations, such as stretching, twisting, crumpling, and bending; that is, without closing holes, opening holes, tearing, gluing, or passing through itself."
Are we sure we're focusing on the right Euler?
What other Euler's are there?
His children
Johann Albrecht Euler (27 November 1734 – 17 September 1800) was a Swiss-Russian astronomer and mathematician. Also known as Johann Albert Euler or John-Albert Euler, he was the first child born to the great Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler (1707–1783), who had emigrated [for the first time] to Saint-Petersburg on 17 May 1727. His mother was K...
Swiss Russian astronomer and mathematician
1771, elected a foreign member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
First time checking EE after a couple of days so I didn't know what Euler was referring to lmao
Euler is an older clue we've had for months now. Should brush up on the stuff we've covered about him.
I won't understand anything lol, I just like seeing how you guys are progressing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Goldbach
Godfather was Christian Goldbach, good friends with Leonard Euler. Established the Goldbach-Euler Theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach–Euler_theorem
I had the same thought 30min ago!!! I just thought it was too silly 🫠
Also I've seen the padlets and understand nothing so I am 0 help with this
Topology would be a bunch of polyhedral vectors to form a map
You could say a person's identity has characteristics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_characteristic
maybe all the hints to modelling on memo mayhem are pushing towards topology?
Right, so polyhedrons like I suggested 
Things may be connecting for once?
The new map just has me thinking about vector graphics which are common in retro gaming.
Does this bring us back to Euclidean spaces?
What is the difference between Euclidean space and vector space?
A vector space is a structure composed of vectors and has no magnitude or dimension, whereas Euclidean space can be of any dimension and is based on coordinates.
A vector space with no dimensions? 🤨
Vector space is composed of vectors and has no magnitude or dimension
Euclidean space can be of any dimension and is based on coordinates
My reading comprehension is 0 as I totally did not read the quote text
Like Ludonope said, basically Euclidean space is a finite-dimensional vector space
Not sure why it would bring us to Euclid tho
I guess implying that it has limitations, where a vector space does not
polyhedrons
Unless we had some actual stuff pointing to it Euclid ≠ Euler
What has you not convinced?
I feel the charm in the BP is pointing us toward this line of thinking, especially with the Sticky note pointing to euler's identity
Hmmm Polyhedral space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyhedral_space
Polyhedral space is a certain metric space. A (Euclidean) polyhedral space is a (usually finite) simplicial complex in which every simplex has a flat metric. (Other spaces of interest are spherical and hyperbolic polyhedral spaces, where every simplex has a metric of constant positive or negative curvature). In the sequel all polyhedral spaces a...
I'm just not seeing that linking with anything else for now, but I see the current thread you're following
Just ignore me, I don't wanna stop you going there 
I didn't want to keep going if you saw something that like really stuck out as not connecting lol, don't wanna go down a dead end!
Polyhedral's would also connect with gaming. The more there are the higher resolution something appears.
Maybe this is what we need for burrw?
It also would link to anti-aliasing stuff from the other day
The hard part with that is figuring out how you utilize that to "increase" the resolution of burrw (or rather find it)
Thinking about how we could input the numbers into the formula from burrw
hey, been away a few days, anything new since S2 dropped? hoping private lobbies have helped?
Or like maybe just straight up use the formula as the address?
I dunno how we'd do that to be fair
Some of the characters in the forumla aren't URL friendly
Well I guess depending on how you write it
The Gregori Aminoff Prize is an international prize awarded since 1979 by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences in the field of crystallography
Could be relevant somehow, didn't find much linking it to anything else yet
#easter-eggs message wasnt aware of this, but apparently ∅ inside eulers identity can refer to saturn
It does look like Saturn with its ring if you turn it a little
No need to turn it even, Saturn rings ARE tilted
Else we wouldn't even see them
also OYE in A1Z26 (15, 25, 5) fits into saturn ring thicknesses (B ring 5-15m, A ring 10-30m, C ring 5m)
Although with all the Saturn stuff I dumped yesterday I'm gonna assume that it's not right as there is no eyes 😭
@sharp flame do you know if that was solved? cant remember #easter-eggs message
Holy crap no this was the genius clue
I found part of this one
im bringing that back up time to time 😄
we solved it lol
The solution:
Vulcan, AND Octopussy
we got BOTH meanings!
Sorry I'm still genuinely amazed I got this
The birthday of a VA role in an obscure Audio episode of a Doctor Who spinoff haha
that okay.
Im just praying again to SR.
🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️
🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️
We have all that we neeeeded
golden egg and what else..
then just type in the password? 😛
we need to find the ques_tion of which the answer is "open your eyes"
omg! Hi, I'm such a fan!
you're like, my favourite button on the calculator
question: open your what??
open the egg?
2b || !2b
2b or not 2b?
I was looking at eulers identity and found that they are 5 truths in it. mathematical beauty: "Euler's identity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_identity#:~:text=edit-,Euler's,-identity is often
0, 1, 3.1415 or π, the number e, and the number i
I still really think we’re going waaaayyyy off track. He said we had everything we need. Open your eyes even implies that. I swear it’s going to be one of those things that’s so stupid just a variation of “gold egg” typed some special way or something
I still haven’t had a chance to look back at all the previous passwords and how they were solved, I still need to do that
I noticed this as well
Yep, this could be another pointer to the 5 "truths"/parts of the password
Gold, Egg, Latin, Mirror, and Cipher??
Potentially asked by another person:
Is it really o=0
or is it circle=0 
Like yes I know o=0 in the 0vif0rm password
But, I wonder
wow
Not quite, full picture would result in E=3=iii
based on previous tier passwords https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2
Just checked, can confirm the password isn't 0y0uriiiuliiir
Kinda just throwing it out there but has anyone looked into the times on the watches? Do the times even change?
The time on the gold watch was relevant at one point (I think)
New watches are displaying your local/system time
The glitchy digital watch one is also model 4000 (says in top left)
Just throwing a random idea :
Can't the open your eyes be related to Golden eye ?
I mean, it's the 5th james bond and kinda related to the gold idea. Plus, it's a huge actor of the video game history
not the 5th but the fifth actor my bad
I just looked up and it's the 6th my idea was trash my bad
I wouldn't say its a bad lead, but rob has said that we have everything we need for this tier. At this point we're avoiding new leads and exploring things we already have
IIRC the thing that ties into that is LIGO
in BF4 you could fucking explode it and it would collapse much like it did in goldeneye (and then it actually happened in real life in 2020!)
Arecibo, my loved one 😭
not LIGO but Arecibo. But Arecibo helped LIGO discover gravitational waves. and is also likely the structure you can see in the lower right section of 70.68.71.67.72
LIGO's discovery(!): LIGO 15, is said to have solidified the idea that gold is formed by violent reactions in binary star systems.
LIGO 17*
and this is one of my can't prove it but i can see it theories WRT 70.68.71.67.72: it looks like to me that if you fold the image over itself you can create what looks like smoke/debris overlayed what may be Arecibo. Which again, would be a callback to its fictional and actual destruction.
TY i will leave my error up as a monument to my dipshit ways
Which jacket do you have in mind?
i can t send picture
on the new trealer it s written T3:
for the 2.1.0
at the end of the trealer
T3 : (a strange symbol) WPS76
there is some other things written on it too but don't know if it's relevent
Also there is the X on the jacket
He's holding a disk with a star 🤔
5 branches star
also there is a bar code on the left of the complete picture and some other colored thingy
T3 on jacket has been mentioned many times
Ok ok, guess Discord skipped some of today's messages for me 😄
Multiple Xs on that cosmetic set
I thought I was up to date lol
It wasn’t today but since the bundle dropped it’s been mentioned
Ooooh, makes more sense
My bad it's hard to read everything
You’re good. Just informing that it isn’t new info. We’re struggling to work with what we have any not get distracted as it is lol
has the letter i been used in any password yet. as in i = i not like vi = g/6
Vitellus
👍
Technically it still reads vi though, but is not 6
also what I called the strange symbol kinda looks like the avicii symbol
livi0ivii
man look how close that is to being mirrored
So this is going to be waaay left field... but rabbits, white rabbit.. also in the matrix.. MATRix is a combination chemo and targeted therapy drug for.... CNS lymphoma..
Likely has zero to do with any of the Easter eggs but you never know 😆
I looked up the symbol and for avicii it meant this :
In addition to the elegant, stylish look, the emblem had a meaning, which was easily deciphered by anyone who knew the musician's name. The two triangles symbolized the first two letters of his nickname, and also represented the "play" button (or other buttons used to move around a piece of music).
avicii is made of lots of i which everyone is so fond of and the play button idea kinda connect
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Avicii is not related to gold eggs
its arguably a PETSCII symbol combonation.
AVICII
PETSCII
ASCII
Which part
It’s just an abstract AV
Not quite sure this is a good path to go down
so more likely the symbols you are looking at on the jacket is more related to PETSCII because that has beome an apparent theme.
oh for sure.
just bullshitting yknow
Sure
Wasn't AVICII swedish tho? XD
I know, I just throwing away random idea and bullshitting
charlie_stringboard.jpg
yephe was
i meant the whoel skin in general but yes
at the end of his life he also went spiritual way but don 't remenber which religion.
We can maybe connect to the 5 truth idea
a lot of artists tend to become "spiritual" at some point to be fair
i think its something that naturally happens when you get the fame and success you always wanted but its still Not Enough
so you turn to faith
I don’t think introducing new, and potentially out there, speculation into the mix is a good idea right now. The goal currently seems to be nailing down what we have. We have had everything we need to solve T3
yeah, he went full bouda mode or something like this
Can you do a quick recap ?
i'm really fixated on LIGO being a big part right now. with the english definition of it being "to bind" and rob using the word "combind" a whole lot
For now anyways, we’ll have a more organized padlet alternative at some point
it's significance in it's discoveries
do you have a good padlet to recap ?
It’s in #egg-hunt-onboarding
my personal white whale is eyes on Chuck Peddle. surely he's not just used to get us to the commodore PET? but then what else? sirius systems?
this padlet has a sector dedicated to the methods used in previous tiers:
yeah but the kyne one seems a bit outdated
ty
It’s all a bit outdated but it’s what we have
For now
Has anybody taken a look at the new gun skin? Is there anything interesting on the sticky notes?
rob said s2 will have clues more for t3, so its not wrong to look for more info instead of what we have
also seen
i mean, a jacket explicitly saying "T3:xxx" should be a pretty good clue
already been 4 months of "you have everything you need" and feels like we didnt move an inch
He said there would be some help yes, but we also need to tread way lightly because it could be us stumbling onto level 3 clues
an insurance company
it's written on the resistant pack
they sponsor me
lol come on man do you play the game
I'm kinda new so everything discovered for me is new ...
I’d go brush up on the wiki then
that's what I'm trying to do but the wiki plus everything discovered so far
it's kinda hard to keep up
Start with the wiki, then come back. You’ll think everything is a clue if you don’t understand what’s already grounded in the game world
Like sponsors such as #1185727960980922488
no hurry we don't go anywhere beyond T3
4 months of "everything you need" that, might add, followed "tier2 is harder but no the hardest, tiers 3 is basically given"
yeah i mean, we are deep in the weeds right now so any clues we are trying to figure out are gonna be not surface level. there are tons of threads in this channel where we are trying to solve older puzzles to see if there is anything we can glean from them.
tbh tier 2 was so easy, we just massively over complicated it
that isn't to say, that the answer isn't also like right in our fucking faces
write it in binary lol
there is a supposed character limit to the password and the answer would have to be only 3 characters in binary IIRC
lowercase letters and numbers, no spaces
the character limit is implied as from what i can tell it can go pretty dang long
I think square space character limit is 30? Not 100% certain
Never-mind, 6-100
Wait hang on
This shit is confusing, damn squarespace faq
Page passwords ARE 30 or fewer
so yeah... 3 characters in binary
also not sure if this had been found but onto the holtow link :
if you right clik and see the link you get https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/6575a0eafa56381d6129675f/86e53b52-add6-440b-94aa-c233c4419416/_-_-_.gif?format=2500w but if you just type https://images.squarespace-cdn.com you get a random blank page saying healthy
yeah thats just... squarespace...
feck I feel like i'm miles behind you guys
dont get me wrong, i encourage the enthusiasm for discovery
keep at it for real
but look around the most active threads and see where we are at
Yeah don’t get discouraged just because you didn’t know something
there used to be a point where there were 2-3 people dropping in here a day going HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THIS HOLTOW WEBSITE???? so we may be a little snippy about it
and the fucking roses
and the flashing moon
Used to be? There still is LOL
it has decreased
Thankfully so
I mean I know one guy today who said it
It's hard to keep up with for sure. There is a lot to absorb. The padlet just boggles my mind at this point, but I also need to view on on a monitor instead of a phone.
I also have a feeling we may be over complicating the password but who knows
also nothing on the error404 onto the reachthefinal website ? https://www.reachthefinals.com/t4
Padlet is AWFUL to navigate. I started trying to draft an alternative but it might take a bit to nail down the approach. Lulz is also working on an Obsidian vault
the padlets are very............... messy. i think there is probably a lot of non-actionable info on them. which is why some of us are going back to the original images to see what we can solidify.
yeah it's just overwhelming
Dunno. Anything that doesn’t lead to a valid page gets that page. I don’t know if we know if there’s something there or not
also on the link they are all some letter exept a few
we are currently at the letter f (number 6)
are the one with a letter a b c d e the 5 truth ?
I’m confused by what you’re saying
@feral lagoon like, for example, i'm not gonna put them on blast, but there was someone here who sometimes just spams the most schizo edits to images you have ever seen, just a stream of white noise cluttering shit up, but one of their edits came just at the right time that gave me an extreme HOLY FUCK moment that helped me solve a mystery i was working on for like a week.
so there are occasions where white noise actually can clutch
bad news bear, i can set my resolution to whatever i want on linux but the game won't let me get past 4k
i mean look at the link of codes :
https://www.reachthefinals.com/t3-f
(and it seems like the screenshots it take are still 1440p anyway)
Sounds like me, I'll take blame.
Lol
URLs, not codes
We've all noticed the urls
Tier2ABC is https://www.reachthefinals.com/t1-f-1
there was t1- a b c d e f and after that it went rogue
yep and the letter went back to f
it didn't go back to f, it went to f-1
the 6th letter
Wtf, anyone familiar with Photoshop, do you have any idea of why when I'm changing blending options to get only 1 channel (R, G or B) the result appears in the opposite color? Like the Blue channel appear all yellow...
t2def is t1-def
i say this as a big offender of schizo edit posting myself BTW
because two other colors are still combined
Oh okay it's because I had a white background... 🤔
you need to isolate it to one channel
Weird tho
Most of the time it's just threshold changes or alien map on gimp from me
wait
if you remove just the blue channel, you have red and green, which makes:
the "really, really firsty now ..." connect with the https://www.reachthefinals.com/t1-d
does the other rob discord clue connect with the others ?
I'm so lost
"the other" there are like 50 of them
basically making CMYK channels in RGB.
nobody has mentionned this: the return to sender set has markings on the store photo: https://ibb.co/dkM1g4y
it's so small tho
bottom right one looks like LO4
Riot shield is good... 😦
BZZT
shotgun is great, sniper dominates in power push
i cook riot shielders alive SORRY I DERAILED PLEASE STOP
Yeah to be fair the shield being made of cardboard is accurate
In beta it used to just be the sniper and what is now covered was a cash out station but you can't see it now with the shot gun being added
"Money $" It's the Vault going into the cashout
NVM I guess you can see it still
LO4
Dunno what that object is, a grenade of sorts? (edit: its a helmet)
helmet?
oooh yeah
the one in the mercenary bundle specifically, though i think there is also a reskin that's not in a bundle
looks like a bit of namatama got splatted on that cardboard too
Does anyone else find it disorienting that the padlet labels the sections as t1b when the origin image is from t1a? Would it be more clear to label it as t1a->t1b? (asking for my own system I'm working on )
Followed by t1b->t1c, etc
i find padlet just unpleasant to interface with in general
Oh for sure, I'm not working with padlet, I'm just trying to determine the best naming scheme
or just put all of t1a-f into a big whiteboard layout and section them accordingly?
I still think we should use micro imo
It feels so good
what was micro? Miro?
Anything that could thread/subfolder/itemize things that allows for stringing between them??? i saw a website once that i think the creator coded themselves that was so good in this way
yea miro my b
I was refering to the paddlet you sent me (the top left rob clue)
ill dm you a link
click on one topic and it would explode out into subtopics, click a subtopic and it exploded out into other topics that tie in
Vegas Skyway red moon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Moon_(video_game)
my guy there are 60 bajillion rob clues
like the (everything guybrush wants) connect with the https://www.reachthefinals.com/t1-c
In what I'm setting up there's Frames, which I could contain each section in (t1a, t1b, etc) and then link with arrows to the next frame.
Then it's all visible via 1 board for Level 2, yet still organized
rob only speaks in clues
top right my bad
You mean Skyway?
i'm sorry but i don't have to time to entertain what you're saying. if you want to investigate further i'm not stopping you but i will no longer be trying to understand
oh additionally... idk if we've talked about this but, "the beginning" of the level would technically be the end of level 1? Like isn't the info in which we unlocked t1a not visible on tfee-level2? yet is still needed?
no pb, i'll dig my own hole
i wish i could find the website i was talking about before, because it was organized really well, there was an interactive UI that you could click around and explore organically, and then there was more of a structured menu/submenu option on the same page as well.
it had to do with mental health stuff, like how ADHD is tied to X, Y, Z. stuff like that
again, IIRC, it was something that the person who coded it only did for just that site, so i don't think its something that is out there for use
nodes, god that was the word i was looking for, interactive nodes that would explode out as you clicked them.
that's p good
yeah, something like that would own
That's obsidian
oh hell yeah
Lulz is working on an Obsidian vault
oh hell yeah x2
isnt obsidian paid
I thought about using Obsidian Canvas but ultimately, it'd be a bit tedious to share
no
hm ig that was something else then
only if you want to use their built in sync function, but syncthing or git works just fine
I'm currently using TLDRAW for mind map. No nodes unfortunately but there are pages. Currently I'm throwing all of Level 2 into a single page, separated by Frames. Separate pages for Diamond Clue progress
moist
You can checkout this snapshot of what very little work I've done so far, and checkout the diamond page (pages are top left)https://www.tldraw.com/s/v2_c_O_suFTekrEbwPE9_9Rvji?v=13940%2C3890%2C7215%2C4580&p=TQ4KiAdm9baweAvGtalTw
middle mouse to click drag is 
No no it was the opposite, I only kept the blue and because it had a white layer behind it ended up yellow, makes very little to me but that's how it is I guess
no need for this 🙂
We have the padlets
Padlets are shit to navigate
god works in mysterious ways
so if vi in vit3llus != 6, then vi = g but vi != 6
so youre saying precedence matters
so is that potentially our cypher?
which I believe it's e=3=iii
letters = numbers = numerals
Maybe, but the question is, does it loop?
I tried this with that reallly long post the other week the fried your brain like an egg
Maybe the process is on to something
yeah i'm just trying to think about how old passwords were formed
that's what I meant :
https://padlet.com/dragoneflyer/t3-f-kd9wry07nk7j2n9e
I'm also wondering if EOY = OYE is a DIRECT telling of us to MOVE THE LETTER E to the end 
I've figured out a way to put 👀 everywhere without actually reacting with 👀
The answer is the square root of -1
i see
iyi see
i • ln(i) = -0.5π
any idea how minerva lead proceeds further
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1218999342652981278
Yes
holy fuck.
still T3 but we have made a lot since october
that is impeccable to me.
we kinda stuck around late december-january
because Rob says we have everything we need to proceed
no eyes or response to any of the date/birthdate stuff we looked at recently 
we fell into the deep burrow
We still haven’t figured out the full meaning behind the white rabbits in Seoul. What to do with roses in practice range. Whatever is hidden in Vegas. Three headed monkey in Monaco.
Generators
outrageous
that's extraneous
that's something else I think.
I thought we had everything we needed in december-januaury.
The most exciting thing to come out recently is getting out of bounds but then you get swarmed by the EE hall monitors telling you it’s wrong to use glitches
EE?
Easter Egg
mm.
Ah yes, Hall Monitors. Also known as those of us who want to keep things on track so we can stop spinning our wheels on things that aren't related to T3.
Easter Huevo 
You literally bring this stuff up at every chance you get.
I still think CNS stands for central nervous system and Ospuze attacks the central nervous system and brainwashes you into playing the game and you're looped in meatspace with this game playing.
I share similar sentiments lol
hey, thanks!
share in #📕┇lore
it's already in there or I should put it in there?
it's likely been mentioned but people will love to chat about it with you there
very well.
I'm going to try to list the big ideas for this tier...
shared and sorted.
Yeah, catch me up if you will please.
I mean there's places I can go for that but if you're already writing it out..
Password: golden egg/gold egg
Modifiers: Latin, Mirror, Leet
Other Themes (additional modifiers?): C64, Space, Time
There are some clues that don't really fit in, like Nobel Prize and Euler's Identity
hm.
They fit in with gold and eggs
We pushed Nobel prize for a while and didn't get much out of it afaik. And a few people have been looking into euler for most of today
Well we sorta did
Smashel got the closest to realizing Nobel
I quoted it a while ago, but Rob said "next time you're on a roll just enter the password so we can move on"
Which sounds like Smashel was really close
Just wondering for you guys does the pp7 from golden eyes looks more like the V9S or the 93R ?
yeah that's right after I mentioned that the Nobel Prize was gold-plated
Can you link to when rob said this?
Please just write the next password when you are on the roll, so we can move on to future levels, haha... ._.

Walther PPK but don't go off topic here
I tried to dig around that time but I came up empty handed. But it sounds like our search should resume/pinpoint there
Did this ever come up?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Combinatorics_and_its_Applications
The Institute of Combinatorics and its Applications (ICA) is an international scientific organization formed in 1990 to increase the visibility and influence of the combinatorial community. In pursuit of this goal, the ICA sponsors conferences, publishes a bulletin and awards a number of medals, including the Euler, Hall, Kirkman, and Stanton M...
Unsure, I haven't seen it
They have a Euler Medal as an award
Do these numbers have any significance?
It's also gold (you never know, sometimes they make em out of different stuff)
Combinatorics = combind?
my bad ... there was just an easter egg on the cradle map (the one who looks like arecibo) from golden eye if you finish it below 2:15 in A tier you get a PP7 gold
Ah good to point out but likely not going to lead anywhere
Sometimes I wonder if Rob's even here anymore
or if we're just never getting more eyes
We used up our eye supply for tier 3
This stuff was already broken down tbf
Oh sorry, i cant keep up with these things, i havent been here for the past few days
Not entirely, some stuff came up empty, but a lot of it was discussed at least. Discord search will show you where, maybe you have something to add to that existing discussion
Has anyone looked through the static that is playing on HOLTOW's webiste?
@cloud wyvern
I had to, I'm sorry
poor fella was just excited about the static
We were all excited once, now look at us
the definition of insantity
Where is this on?
Isn't it on the heels of that clothing set you were looking at a while back?
Sorry, but does anyone know where I can look specifically for what information we gained off of the question marks? There doesn't seem to be much on the padlet
this will have some of the most recent stuff
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1218279864247914548
also what did the investigation on the lvl 32 battle pass reward's lead to (the small screen) ?
Have we gotten the rabbits yet?
how can I share a picture ?
copy paste
don t have the rank :/
upload to imgur
https://imgur.com/a/YQB2tea might be already discovered but at 13sec of s2 trailer
I'd start checking the threads so you don't waste time digging up stuff we already have
Yeah dude I get that you're new but if stuff is SUPER obviously like that then we've more than likely come across it already.
I mean you have to go frame by frame to find it so kinda not obious
also how can you access all those thread ?
are you on mobile or pc ?
We tend to do that lol
Really need to use the discord search feature.
#easter-eggs message
I linked a bunch of resources in this comment as well.
Just posted some (probably useless) generator stuff in the generator thread which (by the looks of it) people hadn't found yet
Euler angles are also known as Pitch, ROLL, Yaw
I didn't even know we had this
Not a real generator fan
Well the generator discussion I had from figuring out what it's most likely pointing to was in VC, and #1178137622359593043
As the values are not what's important, but the parameters
They're what you find on a Signal Generator, one that is used to generate waves (Sine waves for example)
I'm an audio guy, lots of connections made, most in that burrw thread
I posted most of that in the wron place, oops
Hmm yeah that makes sense. That's also what is used in flight
also would be XYZ axis, vectors and stuff
Yeah
Maybe our problem is that we keep shutting down newcomers with "read the padlet" and "use the search feature" too much. We can't find new clues/links on the same info if everyone takes the same routes and whatever else was found from someone else "as is". Let them connect the dots differently otherwise we'll keep running in circles for another 4 months. The only thing that really matters is Rob's eyes in my opinion.
you have a point, but then we also have to explain a lot more and wouldn’t be able to focus on solving the stuff we have on padlets which are unsolved
so it would decease overall efficiency
yeah that's just it, discussions can bring new ideas to the table..
even on the same clues.. since we "have what we need"
it is very tiring having to discuss the same thing over and over without coming to a conclusion bc sometimes people just need info to get started
but i see what you mean and i kinda agree
its just not very realistic imo
No one wants to go over solved stuff from ground 0 again
^
We're trying to piece together our clues, not resolve them
im just thinking out of the box since this clearly isn't working on this tier... sure, let them read up to T2 stuff, but let them discuss your findings (all images/texts for T3) in a different light, maybe they find something else that makes more sense than what we have right now
Discussing subjects is not the same as the 97th "have you seen the holtow website"
Can you make TLDR pinned post for the noobs or something so you can just say check the pin lol
overseeing this and ensuring people dont start trying to solve an already solved clue bc they misread smth is difficult
@solid jay has one he copy pastes. I think he's tried to get it pinned
Gotcha
yeah, dont tell them to go look for what we've found immediately i mean.. tell them to go around and play with it too, maybe we missed something and we thought "ok, no more clues here"
but this isnt really a tldr
They won't k now what to play with until they learn what's available though, so telling them to readup is still the first step regardless
yes, but then they'll most likely think like us and get stuck like us
i think the roses are a good example
that's what im trying to avoid
Not necessarily
its not been documented well (imo) and people have not been solving anything there
I've brought new ideas to the table and I started by reading up
Asking for clarification where I didn't understand
Yeah the padlet is cluttered with useless shit. That's why I'm trying to build out my own that trims off all the stuff that isn't really relevant or a confirmed clue
It's more for me than anything, but willing to share when done
there was a short period of time where so many newcomers would ask about it and we had no place to direct them to
and it halted all progress and motivation for a good three days
we literally had no progress the past 3 months wdym 🥲🥲
progress as in nobody was even looking at anything new
or spitting new ideas
thats how overwhelming it was
legit all it took was a https://discordapp.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1185727960980922488 and it was good but you guys seemed more interesting in being frustrated, i get it sure but the only reason this is happening is because of how you respond
What are you on about
We pointed you to #1185727960980922488 and put
on your question
yes and some guy decided to be mad about it
No one was mad about it
as a newcomer, I kinda agree with nCr, it's very hard to catch up every thing so far there just too much information everywhere. I find it a bit hard to just find the info and clues already found. So to read them on a padlet with just big squares everywhere and an horrible interface or juggle between 100 discord topics
the link just puts me at the thread is that intended
1
2
That's not being mad about it dude
you seem to have taken it to heart
but yes
Also when you ask a random question, I get it that's the 100th+ times you guys have heard it but it seems a bit harsh sometimes when you respond
i think this issue is more specific to holtow because jesus christ the amount of people who said “have you seen the holtow qr code” is prob through the roof. but i agree, it could’ve been a better response, however, it also isn’t entirely out of the blue
It doesn't help newcomer to stay on the egg chase
and the issue with the padlet is real, but finding a solution to it is… not exactly easy
what are you guys doing here?
Guys remember we were all newcomers at one point, try not to get frustrated when people ask about these things, they're curious and don't know where to look for info
discussing if we should change anything regarding newcomers, which we should, but the question really is what we should change
Just give the feeling that the old ones are here since the begining, knows everythings and did everything. The feeling that you will never catch up so why keep trying
The effort toward making a better "go here" gathering of info is in progress, but it is a lot of info to consolidate elsewhere. it takes time
There are many resources. https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1100745453206786078
Threads, Videos, pins, Google documents, Lulz github.
i joined here in late january this year, the only thing i informed myself about thoroughly is t3 and a bit about level 2, you dont need to know everything
and it took me a week anyways
We point people to the sources of info we have because you can't expect everyone to answer the 97th repeat question and go into detail about it. That's a big ask. Those people used their time to either catch up or solve it, you can use yours to do the same
@fallen jasper pin?
i think you also have to go into here with an expectation to not understand jackshit at first
because it really is just that complex
it could be better but idk by how much
It's a LOT. I managed to catch up, and I still ask questions where I don't fully understand. That's what you have to do. But don't ask every single thing you come across without at least attempting to search for it in discord/padlet/other places first to save everyone some time and headache
Tbh when I started, i had no idea what to expect when coming in. I just saw the EE name and was interested what little ones were in the game
I came here for lore and stumbled into EE... I STILL have not looked into #📕┇lore lmao
'Pin' Thread incoming 
un pin? maybe? idk
i think we need a single document / obsidian file where only confirmed truths & truth correlations are on for this tier and nothing else, just so we don't nurture the newcomers too much. (im saying this but I haven't checked the pinned obsidian yet)
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1100745453206786078
I personally think this is still the best resource for newcomers for the FAQ's and RHB beginner guide.
And if you guys want to add/edit the padlet, you can easily ask justice to be added to it 🙂
I agree T3 concrete clues haven't been documented too well
The issue with padlet is, it's horrible to navigate and is very easy to turn people away
Just a thead with everything eyed so far could be great, I can't even find this
weird wires at data center that don't go anywhere
we have a google sheet for this
there's an excel for it, but the algo that updates it is broken iirc (edit: it's not broken after all, sorry)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfveK-QScK3a7dr9LxGxIuFiw89nhoUxJvbfwCkMgXU/edit?usp=sharing
We have a google doc for that
Rob Eyes (updated 20. Mar)
Message/ Image,Date,Link,User
imagine game studios doing a real life easter egg while they are on an expo/convention,2024-03-11T23:05:51.394+00:00,https://discord.com/cha...
there is a spreadsheet
it was ran recently, what
ah sorry i was left at "the algo is broken"
no, Nova runs it weekly.
Also Rob recently has been telling us when he eyes things cause of how cluttered chats are now
Or he'll respond in coversation
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1194001777452929154
We have this thread that was made for pure facts/clues
It's old tho, I will update it later.
I'm gonna add some facts to it now
I think that kinda pinpoint the issue here, the info exist, the document exist, they are just everywhere and just too hard to find on your own without spending a decade trying to find those
And, like I said, we know
which is why there are efforts to make it easier to access and understand
But for now, all we have is what we can point you to, so it's what has to be worked with
Nobel Prize is a medal: 2 sides
Neutron star merger: 2 neutron stars
Binary stars: 2 stars
Ab ovo makes me think of egg or birth
Are we looking for twins?
Twin what though
Opposites?
Magnets? i.e. polarity? Not likely but a small consideration
I didn't get that far in the reasoning 😄
maybe something to do with double yolk eggs
i re-read what was eyed by Rob early on for this tier. We got "gold and egg", "latin and.." eyed. What would be correct, space or mirror? Maybe it's as simple as having the latin word for gold (aurum) and a mirrored/space version of "egg"?
Yeah, we're stuck there
we don't know what comes after that "and.." ?
i think we eventually got it confirmed that it was “mirror” after “and…”
We think that these are the 5 truths: gold, egg, latin, mirror and space, but we're not even fully sure
but we still need the 5th truth
we’re not sure about space
but gold, egg, latin, mirror are i think all but confirmed at this point
We're not even completely sure about gold and egg being truths or just two main threads
gold + egg, modifiers: latin, mirrored text, merged text (?)
lol I just noticed Rob made his discord handle "rob_embark" the opposite of all the other names like "Embark | Dusty"
pretty sure that’s nothing
Space was eyed, he doesn't eye incorrect things or things that would lead us down the wrong path
but eye's also don't guarantee T3 clues
and also eyes doesn't guarantee it's one of the 5 truth
in the context of those messages, wouldnt they be T3 related? :/
He eyed the message 'Gold egg space latin', all tier 3 stuff
yeah, just saying though haha
cell division maybe? lol
polyembryonic
and just quickly to touch on this, no one is mad, I made a joke about this cause we had JUST talked about it.
you can't take anything too personally here or discussions won't flourish. All we can do is direct newcomers to the material we have discovered and teach them how to participate.
Rob also mentioned we haven't found clues from merging photos.. Is anyone good with merging the eyes & maybe mouths of namatamas?
Can you cite where specifically? That might give us a better idea of what photos to merge
an interesting topic that hasn't been mentioned once before
When you see the pattern, hmm
the eyes and mouth seem to have a weird pattern..
Yes at least one
merging might show a letter or number
twins have been talked about a bit
no don't crush my dreams pls 😭
google it, but put "gold" or "mirror" in front of it 
but not polyembryony so you can still follow that path "binary" is something we were working with
What patterns can we think of that we've come across that might lead us to something
f-f-fuckin...
the contour of the eggs all centered together might give us a pattern
same for just the eyes or just the mouths or both
Hmm not sure if it's a pattern in the images, or an unrelated (relatively speaking) pattern
what if we layer eggs over the euler equation?
what if we do a fourrier transormation to the egg
because that image has a lot of moire effect stuff going on potentially
(i have no idea of where to begin to even try this)
I'll try my hand at some of this later gotta go make dinner
i should be sleeping so ill try some of my photoshop/illustrator skills tomorrow on some eggs
There is a repeating pattern on the diamond sticker. Probably nothing, but who knows
Rayleigh scattering
probably not related : it looks like the glitter diamond skin from cs go (a pretty unique skin when you scrap it, it shows 661 and then become a smaller diamond)
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1194001777452929154
Added some facts from this tier to this, if anyone can add to it that would be great, try to keep conversations out of it though 
Also missed recent CNS posts (I wasn't here), so if someone could do that please
And no theories, just facts
Cool stuff with the L2 T3 facts!
Hello all! long time lurker here, just wondering if anyone has inspected the new FCAR skin with all the sticky notes?
We have a thread for it #1219957574414106745 You can't comment in it until you level up but you should be able to see some of what we've discussed so far!
Euler's identity seems to relate to some fundamental truths of mathematics
Gravity is a recurring theme and is a fundamental force of the universe
Sweeeeeeet
There is Euler reflection formula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_formula
In mathematics, a reflection formula or reflection relation for a function f is a relationship between f(a − x) and f(x). It is a special case of a functional equation, and it is very common in the literature to use the term "functional equation" when "reflection formula" is meant.
Reflection formulas are useful for numerical computation of spe...
It's about even and odd functions, with a gamma function
Odd -> O, Gamma -> Y, Even -> E 🤔
Rob said that he had mentionned Euler and Phi in the past
That leads to Euler's phi function, which is noted as Φ(x) or φ(x)
In math notation the first Phi looks like a symbol we've seen many times now
the circular graphic memo reminds me of Stereographic projection
We've had multiple clues about stereographic, stuff like the red and blue glasses
wait isn't for an hexagonal crystal 622 the point of symetry
"Phase Transformations, Crystallographic Aspects" chapter
and isn't 6 and 2 the number you can read on the memo ?
We've had a 622 clue before but weren't sure if it was relevant now
#easter-eggs message
also the roulette wheel numbers usually add up to 666 - but on the lewis it's 622
Euler angles were used to determine the angles of the 3 arms of the LIGO interferometer https://dcc.ligo.org/public/0028/T950004/000/T950004-A.pdf
American vs Eu roulette btw, just incase you were wondering why they are different
That's the first direct relation between Euler and LIGO that I found
Damn that's wild, they had to take into account the curvature of the earth to make sure that all arms were perfectly aligned, never thought of that on such a small scale
They're also used to intepret the data from the interferometer https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Euler-Angles-The-Euler-angles-ph-th-ps-used-in-converting-from-the-GW-propagation_fig3_41479802
The only difference is an 00, we've looked into it, search roulette wheel
some specific numbers are repeated/missed
Well the order of the numbers is changed, which is also important
if it's a specific +/- shift that would be interesting
The euler angle are pretty much the base of the mechanic referential so you can find relation to anything
they are also the base of the Stereographic projection
although I'm pretty sure hexagonal is the exeption because some people use 4 coordinates on hex coordinate system with the orientation of an atomic mesh
The euler angles are based on a 3-dimensional linear system so you can't directly apply them in that case
Ok so I'm digging a bit on the Amiga logos that Rob posted a while ago and there are actually a few interesting things in there that seem to link up with the rest
(for reference this is the image posted by Rob)
- spectrum of light
- bouncing on a mirror
- shape of a V
A black-on-white and a white-on-black versions of the same logo
Basically the colors are inverted, or mirrored
A sphere, just like a star, planet
Also looks like a mesh which makes me think of early video game and of topology (Euler)
Also link to Euler with rotations, Euler's identity, ...
This one is the same but also mirrored
This one is in a circle, just like our Euler's identity from #1204573219894468648
Text is mirrored, also the V 1.3 which contains both V and 3 (recurring in previous passwords)
Commodore logo which is symmetrical horizontally
Also have the blue-red reference to stereography
This one at the center might mean something about what we need to do, not sure tho, we need a few more ideas to come and complement all of that
so Chuck peddle is connected to the 6502, and i think there is a bigger picture there, as we have gotten a decent amount of in game items relating to the 6502
well maybe not alot but at least one.
I'm seeing that there is Atari CX-2605 which seems to be linked to some big Arcade games
Especially in 1979 with Asteroids
Or Lunar Lander
And we might have quite a few references to asteroids (although not all confirmed)
- 1064 Aethusa
- 10853 Oye
- 93 Minerva
chuck worked for motorolla before developing the 6502, and the company itself was targeting other electronic companies like s Hewlett-Packard, Tektronix, TRW, and Chrysler. trw is related to areo space, tektronix developed oscilloscopes, and we just got an oscilloscope charm
The vector display technology (vector -> Euler?) rose to prominence via Atari's Asteroids
Atari maybe very well be relevant as it was sold to Commodore in 1984, before the release of the Amiga in 1985
@dull marsh at this point I think you need your own padlet.
I hope that you are at least writing your findings somewhere else too
No, but they're mostly in my head
But yeah I should make a padlet or something like that
Just not a big fan of padlet in itself
You have some interesting finds, i hope you make 1.
use anything else.
use what I'm using to make a better padlet
tldraw.com
open source, shareable via snapshot link, save it locally (you can even do versioning that way if you save it to a git repository folder... I should probably do that) and collaboration links too
Might take a sec to get used to, heck I'm still figuring it out, but it's smooth
I'm down to put it into form
But you'll have to help me with what to put in it 😓
Wait new idea
I appreciate the offer but there is probably way too much stuff stored in my head for that XD 
Because tldraw has pages, we can just keep it all in the same "document" so to speak, but you can put your own brainstorming into a separate page, that way it's easier to move it to the main page if it ends up being correct. (There's a function for that!)
they can put your text from this channel
My brain: forgets an appointment the next day
Also my brain: remembers that Einstein was born on March 14 and published his first of the four "miracle" papers on March 17
Relatable
I just realized they have a feature to fork projects in tldraw too. This app/site is awesome
is it free?
I gotta admit tho I'm a bit lazy to put all of that in shape, it's gonna be quite a project
We should solve T3 quickly and forget about it
free and opensource
I don't want to drop a public edit link though, just to prevent any chaos
Come on everybody, let's solve T3 tonight!
Granted, I have backups but still
Lets make our own board (use whatever you like) and compare it later on VC
still would be nice to have a history of what we've done, both for the archives and to show new hunters some train of thoughts we have
Crawl into my DM's and I can provide you with a collab link for this
The train of thought in question:
My train of thought is to connect everything I can, which ends up creating many "pretty" but irrelevant connections...
Remember to search up your own text and obviously Rob's messages.
Oh that's neat, you can have a separate read-only link too rather than a snapshot link. Then people can view the board without editing, but still see the most up to date version 😎
Interesting that GoldenEye 007 was the first game to receive the Game of the Year award
#easter-eggs message something like this could be overlooked
(I'm thinking award from the Nobel prize)
How do you paint the page black so my eyes don't burn?
hamburger menu top left, preferences
Did you dm me? Sometimes my discord doesn't notify me. Lemme send you the link to the collaborative board
nope i didn't!
I'll dm you then!
Oooooh, the Electronic Gaming Awards (formerly Arcade Awards)
First one in 1979 was for Space Invaders
Then in 1980 for Asteroids (arcade and standalone)
@dull marsh I need it on threads and pins
Then in 1981 for Asteroids (console) and Star Raiders (computer)
Anyone else wanna come hop on the tldraw board? 
i am on document duty.
What's that mean
I will probably write a summary of T3 till March end
OH like a synopsis of it all?
yes
Heck yeah
link
The MOS 6502 was too expensive, to Chuck Peddle proposed the 6507 microprocessor, which was the CPU of the Atari VCS or Atari 2600
Quick question, where do you guys get the official map layouts you guys draw over?
Check the wiki, there are two official ones (Seoul and Monaco), the others have been made by the community
Yeah, and it's free and open source, unlike miro which has collaboration restrictions
The pages are SO nice, and the fact that it only takes a right click and a couple menu clicks to move items to another page is huge
Anyone tried or found anything in the new tutorial
Tried quickly but found nothing yet
we didn't progress from nobel did we?
nah just smashel eyes and pretty much dead after that or no further eyes
Nobel might just link to gold, but it has some interesting ideas associated: Swedish, explosives (dynamite), medal, prize, sciences
Rob seemed to be hinting at more than just gold though
I’m attempting to get out of the map now don’t arrest me
You are living dangerously lmao
I glitched through the map and now I’m forever falling
Should have brought an umbrella. Marry Poppins style
OYE / Open Your Eyes -> Secret of the Monkey Island
- released on Amiga and Atari ST (among others)
- set during the piracy golden age
- piracy might be a reference to the hacker and demo scene back then
Hmm, there was the North Star Horizon, a personal computer made in 1977
Not that much interesting apart from its name
It's also made by North Star Computers
Initials are NSC, which sounds like... C̶̈́̍Ṅ̷̀$
The company was formed by Mark Greenberg and Charles Grant, who started Kentucky Fried Computer
🤣
has anyone been able to isolate the lettering in the middle of the screenshot VVV image yet?
To be fair that's how we got OYE from EOY but mirrored
maybe we need an acronym?
I'm thinking that, since we got SYS 64738 and T1 ended with C64 "LOAD" and "READY", we might need to input some C64 command
Or maybe A82F STOP or A831 END
Hmm, or we need to work our way from GOLD(EN) and EGG to a C64 command
loading turned into ready on tier f to open tier 2 right?
G=6 but also F=6, so GOLD could become 601D, replacing 6 by F and D by 4 (4th letter of the alphabet) it would be F014 which is send byte to the RS232 buffer (not sure how relevant, but you see the idea)
Routine FE66 (containing E66, like EGG) is user function default vector, mention of vectors here
what if one of them is backwards for like gold or egg
fgge or fd10g
or fd106
It's hex, there is no G, and only 4 characters
It's a pretty limited set
Although we can also work with their decimal values, just like SYS 64738
(note that the ?? are just because the description of the routine is complex or not well documented here, nothing more)
Hey uh
Crazy thing
(maybe not crazy)
PRINT EXP(1) Screen: 2.71828183
That number sure is familiar huh
EXP is a mathematical function that evaluates the inverse natural LOG of the argument. The argument "X" is applied as an exponent to e(2.71828183)
EXP(X) = e^x
Routine BFED
49133–57410
$BFED–E042
I'm totally stretching here but E 0 42
O(Y)E 42(meaning of life, the universe, and everything)
I say a stretch because I don't recall Hitchhikers Guide to teh galaxy ever getting eyed
-1 would be -i maybe from logi
nvm
its ligo
Oh lol I was confused
unless the hint is we just need the letters from logi
it always comes back to ligo
same. all this pointing eulers identity and not knowing what it means is really bringing me down
Idk, Euler could very well be pointing to vector operations with Euler angles and quaternions, which are very very very used in 3D videogames
That would tie well to the retro video game era, although it was not really 3D at the beginning
But Asteroids being one of the first vector graphics games could tie it in
maybe if we ask nice rob will come in and give us a big wet hint
it all ties back to ligo
his number seems to be a frequent thing with 6502 Assembly onthe c64. Not entirely sure how, as I"m still looking, but it very well could point to something we need
So this is a website literally all about the 6502 microprocessor & resources http://6502.org
There's a lot here though, too much to reasonably dig through but it's kinda neat regardless
I'm not a huge math guy but are factorials and Euler tied in any way? His identity or his number ?
Oh wait
But factorials are counting down to 1 right? so my previous theory about how we had to go up the tiers to get to t3 may hold true that we need to do the inverse
There’s spots in the tutorial you can just slip a gateway under as a light and get behind the wall. But nothing so far
Glad you're having fun but there's not EE through glitching in the practice range, so please don't put your updates in the main EE chat. #1201288968562552863 works just fine for that
Sure I’ll go there
Factorial is as follow: 8! = fac(8) = 8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1
Basically fac(0) = 1 and fac(x) = x*fac(x-1)
Right so, we have t2abc which url is t1-f-1 or inverse function right? inverse of f... meaning f e d c b a
Or the factorial of the tiers, my initial theory of working backwards, but it seems our starting point has been defined for us? as t2abc
I know that's not how inverse functions work but maybe, double meaning. Especially with reflection/mirroring being a theme
Right now it doesn't make much sense but I see where you're trying to go
I'm only surface level scraping based off of assembly in 6502 on the c64
https://c64os.com/post/factorialin6502
As a point of reference
Trying to stay within the confines of the knowledge we have, and all of this still lies within it without going down any holes
Euler is best known for inventing functional notation, f(x), as well as developing the trigonometric functions to represent sine, cosine, and tangent.
Definitely been mentioned before but doesn't hurt
Euler first went blind in his right eye as a result of an illness he had suffered. Years later, another illness befell him, resulting in the loss of his other eye, leaving him totally blind.
Poor him, he couldn't open his eyes anymore...
I'm wondering what the function of f is in regards to the tiers. Is that the password of F OR is that the password of tier2abc
Consider this for a moment:
Tier1F is where we had Loading. followed by ready. gif yeah?
Where we had to input the passcode to proceed. So in that case, the function of vitellus is e=3
In tier 2abc the inverse of f would be 3=e no? (if we assume that line of thinking to be correct)
Another way to look at it is that tier 2abc is the result of clearing t1f. Making the inverse function of f not mean the inverse of what we did in tier f but rather what is done in tier 2abc, aka g=6
But we do have the other idea being that g-1 is f which is then f=6, but that may be too convoluted and straying from the inverse function
You might ask why would 3=e be important in tier 2abc. it's not. it's important for t3, the combination of gold and egg
It cancels it out, so we don't apply e=3 to get 3vivi, it stays evivi... with e being Euler's Number???
He introduced many current notations, such as Σ for the sum; the symbol e for the base of natural logarithms; a, b and c for the sides of a triangle and A, B, and C for the opposite angles; the letter f and parentheses for a function; and i for Square root of√−1. He also popularized the use of the symbol π (devised by British mathematician William Jones) for the ratio of circumference to diameter in a circle.
Bro is basically the father of all modern math god damn
Even if that line of thinking isn't correct, maybe we shouldn't be converting e to 3 anyways, and it should be representing Euler's Number. Which would explain why we keep getting pointed to Euler
Euler devoted considerable attention to developing a more perfect theory of lunar motion, which was particularly troublesome, since it involved the so-called three-body problem—the interactions of Sun, Moon, and Earth. (The problem is still unsolved.)
An interesting focus of his on astronomy
No idea
What tier was the 404 image on, c or d?
I wasn't there back then hehe
Wiki says T1C.
Imma head out soon
#FF0000 and #0000FF "combind" make purple which is considered a color of monarchy/royalty
Not purple, Magenta
That's an important differential
As Magenta doesn't exist on the color spectrum. Our minds literally make it up. It fills in the blank for us to bridge/close the color spectrum into a loop
silly brains
Rather, there's no wavelength of light for magenta. It's between red and purple (ends of the spectrum)
Which interestingly that ONE pixel rob posted, is red and blue, and in the middle, is magenta, not purple
Well technically purple is there too, it has to be
Well more accurately, that pixel follows RGB combination, where Red + Blue make magenta
I’ve been thinking c64 READY leads to LOAD next somehow for a while but just found this.
Load is $FFD5
Gold was #FFD7
was that how the tier was laid out? I thought it was loading and then ready?
Which confused since normally it's Ready first on the c64 I believe
Ready is the first thing you see
Then you type stuff
It more so means the system is ready for a function
what keys on the c64 keyboard are # and $?
This could either support my theory of working down the tiers, with "ready" (t1f) being our start point still, and everything after being what you type. potentially 5 truths? (this last part is a stretch)
Or it could be saying exactly how it happened, with tier 2 being the inputs. But the fact it had loading first perplexes me
trying to look
3 and 4 it looks like
has anybody mentioned the QR code (?) on the disco ak skin? theres parts of one on the irons at the front and another part on the slide. couldn't find another obvious one though
there was one on the guitar too IIRC
oh yeah just looked, that one is big too
Maybe meant to be a clue somehow in reverse… On a real C64 you see Ready first then would do Load
hard to get a good photo cause of the light but it looks like it covers most of the front of it
yeah my original idea of reversing the order of tiers seems to keep getting supported by further findings. Or at least implying that tthe line of thinking is correct
I think this is our "mirror", that we're looking for. Reversing the order of things
maybe this is our 1+2+3+4?
You mean adding things up? Like the 1+2+3+4+5=??? that rob said?
My thought is FFD was to point to Gold (hex) and Egg (caesar shift)
That’s the only place they crossover so far
Hmmm potentially, it's a good line of thinking for sure
7 turned to 5 for the same reason we’re seeing vvv 555 and had 1551707 most likely
I'm guessing these are bits of Klee on VVV.jpg
I'm just really stuck on finding out where excactly this damn Euelr stuff fits. i really want to believe it's euler's number as the e in egg
you able to isolate the characters in the center?
in the over saturated area in the center?
you are gonna have to show me what you are talking about. all i'm seeing is the same shit in all the other images in this tier which is just a bunch of bits and pieces that need to be glued together, and its frustrating as all hell!
ill show you after this game
Me too. Me too. We will find it.
One thing I noticed is how the letters LIGO are spelled clockwise, in normal reading order you would expect the G and O to be inverted, but no.
Is that pointing to rotation? Like the bodies that create those gravity waves in the first place?
Also kinda interesting he calls him Leon. #easter-eggs message
There was stuff for Leo, Lion and LiON in tier F folks thought meant 3
wait that was about EULER?
I read that earlier today and was like who the fuck is leon
Leon S Kennedy??? lmao
Leonhard Euler
Yeah it makes sense now, but man I was confused earlier today
this part, the bright pick spots form letters
I can't help but notice the similarity with the letters used for LIGO and GOLD, only i and d differs 🤔
what is phi, pi?
Phi is the nontotient function iirc, which is a Euler thing and was mentioned explicitly by Rob
isn't that just the NA from THE FINALS spotlight being overlayed on them
Not the same as pi no
Euler's totient function
I see
theres text on the inside of it
Euler reformulated Newton's laws of physics into new laws in his two-volume work Mechanica to better explain the motion of rigid bodies
Could link almost directly to gravity waves and LIGO
Get ready for a stretch
Euler spent some of his childhood in Riehen
Just like Roger Federer
Which could link to Tennis for Two (first "video game") or Pong
I'm ready to see Rob eye that now 😂
Robs not gonna read any of this, it’ll get buried so deep 😭
i will simply guess the password by typing every possible 30 character combination starting with: a
nope. didn't work. moving on to: b.
shit. no go either.
Euler grew up in Riehen and Basel, where there is the Beyeler Foundation, a museum
With a total of 20 works, Paul Klee is the best represented artist in the Beyeler Collection after Pablo Picasso.
Also Paul Klee was born and died in Switzerland
a remarkable collection that includes masterpieces like Rising Star, 1931, 230 (V 10) and Signs in Yellow, 1937, 210 (U 10).
i'm almost positive klee's signature has appeared in every image of this tier so far
Interesting painting names, gonna have a look at that
but again, all i got to back that up is "trust me bro"
Rob said vvv.png was the first time Klee's signature was hidden
link it plz
Did we ever figure out the roses?
interesting

