⚡┇the-finals-chat

[tender cypress]

I could totally be a prick and say something about bias but you're right, I've also met children on this game who go 0/15 with no objective score

[manic anchor]

I have younger siblings and cousins. That’s what I mean by this.

[lean hazel]

Light is easily the hardest class is anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional

[humble wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1349796752718299136/me_when.gif

[tender cypress]

Like this one time I ran into a duo who sounded like they were 8 at most absolutely throwing in ranked 😭

[vivid lily]

I don’t even gotta use my hand to count that shit it’s just 0

[inland crest]

I do not think it is a clear-cut matter.

[rancid schooner]

imagine suffering from gastric in the big 25 ||holy cornball||

[manic anchor]

Wait seriously?

[lofty anchor]

yeah its way too easy

[lean hazel]

It very much os

[manic anchor]

A gastric bypass????

[twin harness]

It really is a difficult likento have the smallest hitbox the fastest speed the best weapons and gadgets the most options and playstyle differential truly a nightmare

[mental igloo]

"I'm in this video and I don't like it."

[inland crest]

Why?

[torpid echo]

Light is super easy if you are just playing for KD... which a lot of people do

[tender cypress]

It was back in S2 but yes, it was on Skyway and they were using the voice chat to talk about setting up a sleepover

[spare wharf]

day 11 of logging into The Finals, starting a match and getting kicked from it mid match for no reason.

[lean hazel]

OMG sick clip 😮 doesn't prove anything I prolly have a team wipe clip with each class

[manic anchor]

AWWWWW… it’s been at least a month since I’ve heard a kid on voice chat.

[rancid schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/following-smell-gif-18484739

[lofty anchor]

[tender cypress]

They all realized the game was too hard and went back to fortnite

[twin harness]

Light is so difficult honestly i dont know why the game is 70% lights people must like a challenge right thats what it is

[humble wedge]

Double barrel

[mental igloo]

Started with medium main, switch to heavy main, then mained light for a while.

Light is easy as shit. Heavy is the most fun.

[manic anchor]

LMAO fr.

[lean hazel]

Well yeah most light players are ass
Actually playing light competently.at a high level is objectively harder than every other class.

There's a difference between farming kills while your team is doing obj and actually playing with them

[tender cypress]

Light is difficult to do well
Unless you're in a bot lobby

[vivid lily]

It’s cuz med and heavy are like boring

[lean hazel]

Noob stomper

[torpid echo]

COD and Fortnite is why you see so many lights... and a dash of Roblox

[lofty anchor]

medium and heavy dont have throwing knives so

[manic anchor]

Hot take… most classes are hard to do well with in some way.

[mental igloo]

Pretty much.

[harsh timber]

I’d agree

[lean hazel]

Started with light then medium then heavy

Light is easily the hardest

[high pier]

alright just checking cause saying "i've met children" with that name is sus

[shy fiber]

I'm new to the game and I wanna find some friends to play with, is this the right place

[lofty anchor]

erm actually none of this matters

[tender cypress]

I mean I think heavy is a little forgiving with the HP pool and medium used to be easy to pocket heal with, but yeah they're all hard to pull off in some way

[manic anchor]

Interesting. Okay.

[humble wedge]

"This games movement is so clanky, I cant jump 10 feet in front of me in a dive while shooting, I'm picking light!"

[brazen mural]

I think I had a harder time playing heavy than light ngl

[harsh timber]

-lfg id recommend looking here

[amber jacinth]

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#lfg-asia-casual • #1290634388014633054 • #lfg-asia-ranked

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#lfg-oce-casual • #1290634528255246439 • #lfg-oce-ranked

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Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[twin harness]

Ight is easy because i always have the the best tool for every situation with the most reliable guns

[shy fiber]

🙏

[lean hazel]

Yeah your right all of you just been using anecdotal who i could say the exact same for

[tender cypress]

The ever so humble Winch BFR

[lofty anchor]

okay but the same can be said for medium and heavy

[manic anchor]

Heavy is forgiving in a sustained fire fight, lights are forgiving in failed ambushes and mediums are forgiving when they cannot give much help in team fights.

[tender cypress]

The thing that separates light is that they get shredded if you don't play well

[harsh timber]

I have 1300 hours in the game and multiple diamond rewards and still can’t use light to save my life

[lean hazel]

Medium is the easiest class because it's the best balanced of both heavy and light while also having the best weapons and gadgets

[twin harness]

No because they have power tools for specific situations you can force them into situations where they become significantly less useful. That never happens with light you can always do skmething about every situation

[somber forge]

Tough sandbox to be a Light in, they're currently getting beat up by M and H 😭

[torpid echo]

I mean, if you can do basic ambushing you are playing light right, if you try to face tank a heavy as a light then you probably are an idiot

[covert marsh]

I have 2020 hours and three diamonds just because I havent been bothered with getting more and I hate how heavy feels but every time I play it it's the easiest thing on earth 😭

[harsh timber]

HML is still meta tho lol

[lean hazel]

That can also apply to medium to some extent as well

[lofty anchor]

demat p90 zipline jumppad defib

[twin harness]

Definitely medium is versitile but is still a bad class to take on multiple people heavy can do this and light can do it effectively

[tender cypress]

Yeah which is why it's hard to pull off well, light relies on catching people off guard and silvers can't do that

[lofty anchor]

damn I got clipped

[woeful dock]

ia this cash enough

[torpid echo]

I think any player with average FPS game skills should be able to do basic ambushing... its really not difficult.... so probably 90% of lights are below average skill players

[tender cypress]

A player with average FPS skills also expects basic ambushing

It's a weird loop of the better players are the better they ambush and the more prepared they are for ambushes

[twin harness]

When my teamates die and im 1v3 protecting the cashbox as usual on medium my main ckncern is omg i need to get a revive and get height. As a light im gona kill one and get away until they all dead or just jump in and null the guy if theres no time left super reliable no counterplay unless you have 3 turrets in a line for some reason

[humble wedge]

Lets just make essentially ewok hunt but its pitchblack with lights with double barrels for the halloween event.

[lost cedar]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[torpid echo]

Yes, but a class that is strong at ambushing is going to still be successful against players expecting ambushes unless the being ambushed is a better player...

I'd argue that the bottom half of the games players skillwise are mostly lights...

[broken gyro]

What’s bein argued about now?

[lofty anchor]

who even knows

[twin harness]

Light is trash and easy

Thats always the argument tho

[high pier]

up to 700 now and i cant either :/

[lofty anchor]

nah

[lost cedar]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[tender cypress]

Oh hey, long time no see, I think.
We were talking about light

[lean hazel]

If you're letting a light win.l 1v2 or even 1v3s then that's on the teammo.the light

Also medium is far from bad it's still the best class

[lofty anchor]

seeing those tks in a tier warms my heart

[lost cedar]

this is the most incorrect tier list anyone has ever posted

[true nova]

Hear me out. HHH with zero heals, all running shield with sledge.

[torpid echo]

Thats the CODNITE effect... players thinking they can 1v the whole team and win.

[lofty anchor]

oh I didnt even read the rest of it I just saw tks and said yep looks good 😂

[twin harness]

Ok gona pretnd like lights cant kite enemies and stay at a safe but dangerous distance

[turbid sonnet]

sledgehammer mentioned

[lofty anchor]

those are the teammates I have regardless of class

[hot creek]

yo, im a player who hasnt played in a good while. and the v9s used to be my favorite weapon. but it seems they changed the rpm and it feels really bad now imo. anyone else feel the same way? 🤔

[fathom vector]

I personally have issues with forgetting I have dash (I normally play heavy or med)

[lost cedar]

it's good but any other light gun accomplishes the same exact thing with less effort

[spiral dust]

No, push farther

[twin harness]

Its good but theres another pistol that shoots 3 bullets might as well use that one

[limpid jetty]

Crashout station

[livid sedge]

It got its rpm nerfed many seasons ago, still a great weapon but no more uncapped firerates

[tender cypress]

Thats just #👂┇game-feedback

[hot creek]

yeah.. it just kinda sucks cuz the v9 has been my favorite weapon since the beta

[livid sedge]

Try the 93r and the arn they are great weapons and super fun to use

[woven needle]

the delay on demat feels so bad

[twin harness]

Lh1 if you havent started on your estrogen yet

[broken gyro]

Man you’re trying to hard. You don’t need a big fancy excuse not to like lights. They’re annoying, that’s plenty.

[woven needle]

are they gonna fix it

[hot creek]

the arn feels kinda weird to me. and i cant really put my finger on why. it just feels like it either does TONS of dmg or it does like basically nothing

[livid sedge]

I always forget about the lh1

[lost cedar]

i think i'm the only person in the world who thinks the ARN feels like ass and prefers the xp54 still

[vestal sable]

its meant for range

[twin harness]

I get confused with the double reloading

[livid sedge]

It has the easiest to control recoil if youre landing your headshots it beams

[oblique turtle]

is there a LFG text chat?

[lost cedar]

i know the ARN is like the meta rn but i do not like it at all

[hot creek]

sounds like i just gotta git good again then xD

[twin harness]

Yea but its just people spamming the same message u lucky if you find a human

[high pier]

the names in this game are crazy :/

[livid sedge]

Good luck!

[oblique turtle]

well damn, i have a group of 5 people and we're looking for 1 more to run custom 3v3s with later today

[limpid jetty]

The amount of absurd and gross names ive reported

[livid sedge]

Nothing wrong with that light has several meta viable weapons rn, lh1 m11 xp 93r also all play at top level

[hot creek]

on another note, whats some good gadets to run on light atm? 😅

[oblique turtle]

kind of nuts how many good guns light has i feel blessed but i love my ARN

[lean hazel]

Are you going to pretend that every class is capable of kiting?

And that at up close in a 1v1 scenario light can just get shredded? Up close can mean death (winch, bfr)

And at long ranges medium just straight has better guns )FAMAS/pike/repeater)

[livid sedge]

The current set up is h+ infuser, gateway, and glitch nade. But if youre playing solo you may like breach charges and other gadgets

[lost cedar]

not xp

[hot creek]

oh damn, didnt even know about the h+ infuser. interesting that light has some heals now

[icy brook]

ARN is more precise but has stronger vertical recoil compared to the xp, that's why not everyone can adapt it

[twin harness]

I never said every class can kite you were pretending like lights cant. Lights specificly cannot be kitied by other clases

[livid sedge]

Light has a huge diversity of weapons, even off meta picks like sniper and throwing knives are tried frequently to mixed success

[thick bough]

This game is soo addicting

[stiff dome]

what are the ranks in world tour and what are the emerald rewards this season?

[oblique turtle]

all ive wanted since the closed beta was an assault rifle weapon on the light season 6 felt like christmas

[lost cedar]

ARN literally has the easiest recoil in the game

[high pier]

it says in game

[oblique turtle]

famas and 93r say otherwise

[livid sedge]

S6 is when I quit the finals for almost 2 seasons

[stiff dome]

how do you check?

[lean hazel]

I guess but that doesn't negate the fact that in almost every scenario the light is more at risk than the other classes. Especially when medium just straight up has better versions of weapons compared to it and heavy can delete it at close range

[oblique turtle]

well welcome back

[icy brook]

I didn't say the recoil pattern was harder

[high pier]

go to game select it'll tell you to press a button top side of the mode

[covert marsh]

I'm just bad at it because I palm the mouse with stupidly high sens so it's impossible to do the full recoil

[green narwhal]

It’s really not that serious ICL

[livid sedge]

Thank you! I couldn't stay away from my mgl for long

[oblique turtle]

a junkrat players best friend

[green narwhal]

You’ll get a W at some point but if you just abandon logic you’re cooked

[lean hazel]

*P90

That gun got negative recoil

[icy brook]

A recoil pattern can be a straight line up but if the recoil is strong enough you will have issue centering the reticle on full auto fire

[lost cedar]

no p90 has some horiz recoil, ARN has 0

[twin harness]

No dude you are at risk when you are standing in front of the bfr. You should always be shooting people first or from behind or from above or something like idk what to tell you its not that hard

[livid sedge]

Whats crazy is i absolutely sucked at junkrat I was a diehard mercy main for most if not all of ow life

[covert marsh]

Funny enough I'm actually unable to do p90

I find the easiest recoils to be fcar or xp

[lost cedar]

i used to play tarkov and pubg, i really feel like the ARN's recoil is basically nonexistent

[swift ocean]

so how do you hit people with the dual blades deflect when they're more than 3m away from you? i can have my aim right on their center of mass yet nothing will hit

[green narwhal]

SHENGLONG IS ABSOLUTE PEAK

[fathom vector]

As a pro negev player, the m60 makes sense to me

[icy brook]

Aim slightly above their head

[green narwhal]

You run. Because you’re cooked.

[grim raft]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1161460190437195828/1362124181528903760/ezgif-3-18185c7e26.gif

[swift ocean]

what? deflected projectiles arent hitscan at all, but immediately projectiles?

[green narwhal]

Not enough time if it’s 3 meters

[grim raft]

https://tenor.com/view/show-puss-kitty-cat-wig-gif-7838683412093320473

[inland crest]

clips? You can hit people from way further than that, generally it's very short ranges when the deflect has issues

[hardy bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/710187538395955220/1150138453061812405/speed.gif

[lost cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

[green narwhal]

RUBY LABUBU FANS UNITE

[grim raft]

https://media.tenor.com/cThemhylGqcAAAAM/those-who-know-skull.gif

[exotic nimbus]

Yes yes you are and I'm so proud

[livid sedge]

Fellow dual blades player here, the deflect has been buggy since it came out, try aiming ahead of moving players like the bullets are projectiles i tend to hit more of my deflects that way

[ebon willow]

What if I took off 4 days from work to play arc raiders on release

[lean hazel]

Not sure if you meant to say are or aren't.

But the fact that we're talking about kiting and avoiding teams so much and whatnot proves my point.
Light play style is more risky than both classes and committal.
Hence it's the hardest

The fact that the current weapons.and specs also counter it makes it harder for the class as well

[exotic nimbus]

Wrong

[opaque bough]

Why nobody is talking about Meduim nerf in wall hack

[swift ocean]

i saw someone complain that the deflect is actually serverside and not clientside like firing a normal gun would be

[twin harness]

Its not commital because they always ahve an escape option what are we talking about how many times do go in and out of the same fight?

[covert marsh]

Dont use deflect lol

[raw sigil]

what if the finals lobby, where you wait with your party, could be designed and decorated by the player. like a digital hang out space, kinda like path of exile.. more stuff to sell embark!!

[pulsar mauve]

Found a higher quality template.

[opaque bough]

Why nobody is talking about Meduim nerf in wall hack

[livid sedge]

Yep! Makes the deflect very very finicky 😭

[twin harness]

It was op before actual

[swift ocean]

😭

[livid sedge]

Ky! 😘

[lean hazel]

Having an escape option doesn't change the fact that a small mistake can cost you your life unlike the other classes

[cosmic horizon]

This is too real chat

[covert marsh]

Ok so here's how deflect (is supposed to) work/s

They shoot you
Game registers
Game registers you deflect
Game does the calculations based on where you aim
Game puts the bullet there

Opponent has moved at this point

[pulsar mauve]

Actually hold on, anyone have a picture of any map at night? That would work better.

[opaque bough]

It was normal for light dodge but op for wall hack meduim

[livid sedge]

How are you?

[lean hazel]

Completely right actually

[exotic nimbus]

Nah

[tropic kettle]

Nope

[pulsar mauve]

Preferably street level.

[grim raft]

https://tenor.com/view/sal-murr-impractical-jokers-gif-9307952022121795717

[lean hazel]

Cause even with the nerf DeMat is still really good

[covert marsh]

Yup

[mental igloo]

Join powershift.
Game is ongoing.
Enemy team is leading both in progress and scores.
Seconds remain.
10/10 matchmaking.

[icy tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-jawline-rizz-rizz-face-sigma-gif-3064571076107651168

[lost cedar]

it's actually so bullshit how it's coded lmao

[opaque bough]

Getting nerfed in cool down and quantity killed it

[exotic nimbus]

Hello

[livid sedge]

Its very confusing, it gets even worse when you add in projectiles like arrows and throwing knives

[tropic kettle]

You did not develop the game, your just not good at what your using

[covert marsh]

It goes through like four transmissions before the deflect actually happens lol

[swift ocean]

what's the % of L/M/H players in quick cash?

[lean hazel]

Definitely right

[covert marsh]

Chat's tryna ragebait me lol

[opaque bough]

Are u a med main?

[twin harness]

Actually yes. It does. It allows you to escape the consequences of your mistake. Nick young meme goes here

[tropic kettle]

That ragebait used to work

[lean hazel]

Not really it's still very good and one of the best specs

[lost cedar]

at least a tenth of my throwing knives are no regs and that's not an exaggeration

[covert marsh]

Unfortunately for you I'm too happy to be ragebaited, I wish you better luck on your next endeavor

[exotic nimbus]

You have multiple get out of jail free cards lol get better

[icy tundra]

I am doing swell (im dying inside) hbu

[cosmic horizon]

Who's this guy? He's Hella based

[opaque bough]

Cause ima bout to get some med mains to help me write a feedback about that nerf
I will appreciate if u join me

[pulsar mauve]

Nvm I found one.

[livid sedge]

Im okay, apparently im on strike rn but I still have no idea what's going on

[tranquil valve]

Half everyone’s DB shots no reg

[lost cedar]

ive seen this happen to teammates in ranked

[icy tundra]

Apparently?

[limpid jetty]

Can we PLEASE nerf the stupid zipline, its so dumb that a guy can just give his entire team access to anything within 120m, the range is too high and theres no limit to the angle, what kinda garbage is that. Ugh. Remove it at this point.

[lean hazel]

Even taking into account specs light still has much more to risk than medium or heavy

That's also just more to take into account while playing alo furthering the gap between skill

[inland crest]

any evidence of this? it should be very easy to do

[pulsar mauve]

They left poor Rico and their MGL32 at Vegas 🙁

[lost cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-bait-mad-max-bart-simpson-funny-tv-boy-gif-9838062616755766620

[ebon willow]

This is the wildest skill issue right here

[brisk tapir]

You have been invited to the fake CEOs vs real CEOs fight.

[livid sedge]

I have no clue whats going on 😭

[cosmic horizon]

Stop censoring the finals team chat 🗣️

[covert marsh]

As someone who only plays demat on med, it's still strong just something I gotta keep in mind now lol

[ebon willow]

…wat

[opaque bough]

Alr

[cosmic horizon]

Heal beam is viable now, just sayin

[tranquil valve]

I had a clip of me shooting an afk heavy. 1st shot did like 160. Then 20 twice. Then 160 ish again. I’ll clip it for u next time i use it 🫡

[icy tundra]

@rancid schooner this one pls

[cosmic horizon]

LOL

[livid sedge]

Risky click

[lost cedar]

healbeam is quite literally meta now

[covert marsh]

I'm a powershift main and my role is chaser, if anyone's close enough to me to be healed then I'm doing my job wrong lol

[edgy python]

Me when I want every class but mine to look like this

[icy tundra]

I would never click a link from a lowly white role

[tranquil valve]

However if u google it you’ll find at least 50 clips of no regs anyways

[ebon willow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[cosmic horizon]

Thats fair, but heal is really strong on PS for holding point with teammates

[livid sedge]

Clicking on a pipebomb

[vestal sable]

nerf mgl and spear too

[lean hazel]

I main heavy light is easily harder
Cause you can't beat lights consistently doesn't make them easy lol

[lost cedar]

i can't believe that demat was dropped by everyone universally when the nerfs are barely felt

[tranquil valve]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[limpid jetty]

Real, theyre so bs.

[cosmic horizon]

Well you gotta level up bruv

[edgy python]

Remove hammer too, it can 1 shot lights

[livid sedge]

Hey woah woah woah wait a minute

[nova veldt]

always has been
even when nobody used it

[pine jungle]

buff winch and sa12

[cosmic horizon]

Chat imma crash out and make terminal attack ranked mode again

[exotic nimbus]

I can beat them consistently I just hate for the love of the game

[covert marsh]

Well yeah but my entire job is to keep away from the plat and make sure the opps are also kept away from the plat

Like my designated role is flexible chaser, in my stack I'm assumed to be playing extremely forward unless someone needs me

[high pier]

i love filling my teammates up with my blue stuff :3

[livid sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

[icy tundra]

Nerf MGL but only Ben's MGL

[lean hazel]

[limpid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

[exotic nimbus]

BFR too

[pulsar mauve]

Double jump can also suck to face as MGL32, but I'd be ok if they replaced Low Grav with it permanently.

[exotic nimbus]

Look at anything I said here lol

[icy tundra]

Anything could replace low gravity and id be happy

[twin harness]

I feel like im beating a dead horse but everyone has their own amount of hp to risk right. Everyone in the game has cool and effective abilities in the game for sure. And the balance isnt even that far off like its pretty close and mostly fair in terms of all the classes definitely. However light advantages in more numerous situations than the other 2 classes. Thats not to say light always have the advantage because they dont, but they usually do.

[nocturne nymph]

https://pxlpowerup.se/shop/pxl-sour-core

NO WAY YOU DID IT EMBARK !!!!!

[high pier]

especially when they thank me for it

[brisk tapir]

Power shift match that we (the CEOs) (the real ones) are trying to plan.

[livid sedge]

I like low grav on mgl i get to go full sniper mode and start beaming people with a grenade launcher

[ebon willow]

Mebe I got a j*b

[edgy python]

I liked low gravity because it made an angled jump pad send you half way across the map

[covert marsh]

Can I be the ceo of the gays and join so I can wreck everyone :3

[icy tundra]

People who like low gravity have self esteem issues

[cosmic horizon]

Unfortunately only in sweeden

[ebon willow]

People who like low gravity are bottoms

[brisk tapir]

I uh.. sure?

[livid sedge]

Thats besides the point

[mental igloo]

Still only shipping to Sweden.

International shipping might follow later.

[nocturne nymph]

am crying so hard rn 😭

[covert marsh]

Lol

What day's the thing anyway

[limpid jetty]

Young Bum Sock of ISEUL-T do you believe zipline needs a hard nerf. It is overpowered.

[manic anchor]

No I just like 600 hundred damage slams

[cosmic horizon]

Sup Yun my man

[pulsar mauve]

I'll find you (in game).

[icy tundra]

U mean a slam that is super slow fslling and avoidable?

[brisk tapir]

Hello CNS!

[manic anchor]

Yes!

[inland crest]

page is very clearly GPT-written, which I find amusing

[limpid jetty]

I am both, but I dont believe its related.

[cosmic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[ebon willow]

Ill find you (irl)

[edgy python]

Is it really that effective at the whole point and shoot thing like the cl 40 or are you just cracked

[icy tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-scared-fright-gif-1407771759511089766

[pulsar mauve]

You saying this makes me think you don't use MGL32 much.

This is one of a very small number of times it didn't fuck me.

[cosmic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/dox-doxx-i-really-respect-your-opinion-one-small-issue-ip-gif-25805728

[stiff dome]

does anyone knopw why suddenly i go from averaging 120 fps to averaging 40? im not sure what happened and im 90% sure im on the same graphical settings

[cosmic horizon]

Just check it sometimes resets after an update

[inland crest]

Probably some driver compatibility issue

[pulsar mauve]

You can literally do the Loony Toons slow walk away lol.

[tropic kettle]

Happened to me too, can’t fix

[stiff dome]

just updated nvidia graphics driver to check this it wasnt it

[inland crest]

Try downgrading to a prior version too, and try running in dx11 too

[livid sedge]

Ive only been using the mgl since the open beta

[lean hazel]

Lights biggest counter is just staying with your team and just doing that alone you can invalidate most of it's approaches.

The amount of HP literally means everything
It's the difference between getting immediately one shot by a winch bfr combo or actually being able to escape.
Light is rarely having advantage the advantage unless it's actively.punoshing you for making a mistake or you being low which it excels at.
Also hard to escape easily when you can just get one shot for stepping outside or the other classes have ways of deleting you

Of light was anywhere near as easy as you'd say then they'd be everywhere in high level comp but they aren't

In fact this is probably the only time light has been relevant this meta
Ever since the infusion of h+ and countless balance adjustments

[pulsar mauve]

You have to aim so that it just immediately bounces into them, but lower on the body. The wall helped a lot here.

[inland jolt]

[cosmic horizon]

[brisk tapir]

[pulsar mauve]

When the server is kind, you can do this.

[lean hazel]

Evasive dash, grapple, cloak aren't get out of jail cards they're tools to help the class stay alive and not doe every interaction

[pulsar mauve]

So rude of Embjork to make the max damage 83, meaning 3 full damage nades deal 249 damage.

[marsh summit]

Hey guys

[pulsar mauve]

Dash and Grapple can absolutely be used to undo poor positioning.

[tropic kettle]

Grapple and evasive are,

[icy tundra]

I prefer the old fashion throwing mines where they'll land

[lucid island]

Kaykay cmon I respected you once

[pulsar mauve]

I wouldn't even be mad as the one slamming.

[twin harness]

They are effective and i think its intrsdtinf how the ho different literally means everything yet they have had that much hp since launch and people still complain about lights they are still running around in heavies faces durrounded by enemies dashing around shot gunning people stabbing people but 350hp heavy can hardly get 1 hammer hit in before he quits out the game

[nova veldt]

time for me to go 0:15 trying this in ranked

[pulsar mauve]

I'd be mad at Low Grav existing, but not the mines thing.

[tropic kettle]

Just run on sentence

[lean hazel]

For grapple outside kinda
Indoors it's really underwhelming

[compact jewel]

increase mines size, damage, and limit to three each

[pulsar mauve]

Then this after.

[lean hazel]

Complaining doesn't mean much
People have been bitching about light since release and it's been the worst class since.
Doesn't change the fact that it's harder to play

[tropic kettle]

Easy counter

[pulsar mauve]

I was proud I didn't just decide to RPG myself at the start.

Cause ngl 7/10 times, I would.

[lofty anchor]

I definitely wouldve

[inland crest]

Not mutually exclusive concepts.

[lean hazel]

lap that scenario you described at the end was the embodiment of a skill issue

[tropic kettle]

Sorry for the fact light mains don’t just throw explosives in hopes to get a kill, it’s a class for people who are smart

[lofty anchor]

im very rpg prone to blowing myself up

[pulsar mauve]

I'm trying to have more discipline with RPG lol.

[lean hazel]

That's how new players see themselves playing light lmao

[nova veldt]

always feels so good to get triple heavy with randoms

[cosmic horizon]

Real

[limpid jetty]

Im just done pretending like Zipline isn’t overpowered as hell. It’s an infinite use gateway from 150m away. It recharges in like 10 seconds. Everyone is always using that glitchy teleport exploit in every single lobby I’m in. What on earth is embark doing when they should be removing this stupid piece of garbage.

[stiff dome]

holy cope just say you cant aim and fry ppl on ziplines

[pulsar mauve]

Quick everyone, send stupid Light clips.

[hollow basalt]

i cant tell whats bait and whats real anymore

[somber forge]

What teleport exploit??? What am I missing out on ⁉️

[lean hazel]

How would nerf it with gutting it?

[stuck goblet]

You shouldn't

[lucid island]

the zip is pretty underwhelming compared to tp and jump pad
just gotta fix the glitch

[sterile garnet]

Is chat dead or am I offline

[hollow basalt]

zipline isnt even as good as jump pad please dont feed it

[twin harness]

What nah lol

[hollow basalt]

do you mean ingame? my text chat server for some reason just ends up dying if i play for more than an hour

[limpid jetty]

Hi doof, i read you loud and clear, just trying my hand at making goofy complaints and seeing who believes me

[jolly parrot]

I just timed it, the recharge is 28 seconds

[lean hazel]

I'm bored dawg I wanna see

[hollow basalt]

I'm just glad it was bait and not real

[lucid island]

I understand that you probably just lost to a team using this glitch but you can offload your anger in more productive ways

[twin harness]

I feel like yall are hating on zip its incredible but that long ass post about it was wild tho

[limpid jetty]

It needs to be double that time.

[lucid island]

breach charge could use a buff

[limpid jetty]

You probably abuse it and you just dont want it nerfed smh

[hollow basalt]

I thought it was 30, i've been living a lie for around 3 seasons now

[twin harness]

Do you believe yourself tho

[jolly parrot]

Breach charge needs to be removed because it's useless when thermite does the same thing but better

[lucid island]

I saw it but I don't use it cause I don't even know how

[twin harness]

Thermite doesnt kill people thermite doesnt need line of sight

[lucid island]

breach charge could use a damage range buff

[limpid jetty]

(casio im joking bro, i don’t even know anyone who uses ziplines)

[jolly parrot]

I've never seen a light player do this, so I doubt anyone has the wherewithall and smarts to do it effectively

[lean hazel]

Zipline is fine it's linear and easy af to destroy

[limpid jetty]

It’s busted

[sterile garnet]

Zip does its job

That's it

It doesn't need any changes

[lucid island]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[wary quest]

breach charge has 1 more charge and a lower cooldown than thermal, and can be used to remotely drop the cashout, and can be used to detonate teammates mines, AND it explodes when enemies shoot it unlike c4 which dissipates

[twin harness]

You never seen a light player breech charge the cash box do you play with your eyes closed must be a big boy heavy

[tropic kettle]

lol

[jolly parrot]

I'm pretty sure C4 does all that

[wary quest]

thermal and breach are balanced with eachother, they both just need slightly faster fuse

[hollow basalt]

I actually haven't since they introduced thermal bore, thermal applies fire so its generally more useful

[twin harness]

Does light have c4 or breech charge

[tropic kettle]

Breach

[jolly parrot]

Breach charge is light

[wary quest]

1, thats a heavy weapon, and 2, I literally just listed something c4 cant do

[twin harness]

Yea we talking about light how u gona be like c4 can do that lol

[jolly parrot]

And I'm pretty sure C4 does all that

[wary quest]

it doesnt

[stuck goblet]

Takes 2-3 business days before you can detonate c4

[wary quest]

if an enemy shoots at c4, it fizzles out. If you shoot at breach, it explodes

[lean hazel]

I don't get people who say breach is bad, plenty of utility

[obtuse garden]

As a heavy main, c4 does explode when shot.

[tropic kettle]

Doesn’t for me

[lucid island]

it should have a bigger damage range cause it only does damage within 1 meter

[inland crest]

C4 doesn't have 3 charges of course

[lean hazel]

It used to

[tropic kettle]

Way too op

[inland crest]

it had 2, if it had 3 it must have been closed beta

[keen heath]

it’s only bad because light has a lot of good gadgets

[jolly parrot]

Like thermite

[nimble schooner]

If c4 and strong light gadgets didnt exist breach would be a lot better

[wary quest]

I guess im hallucinating whenever i play heavy then

[nova veldt]

speaking of closed beta when do we get 50% teamwipe cash penalties back

[turbid sonnet]

make it 95%

[nimble schooner]

But c4 just fills breach's role perfectly fine and doesn't give up valuable light gadget slots

[lucid island]

3 breach charges deal around 240 damage and if used with gravity vortex it can destroy teams

[pulsar mauve]

Finally moved the clips on my phone to one folder.

[wary quest]

gateway and glitch nade invalidate the vast majority of light gadgets, ya

[lean hazel]

True I imagine it's great for solo queue or teams with no heavy
Or where the heavy isn't running c4

[lucid island]

tbh glitch and goo nades should have 1 charge
it's annoying when people spam these willy nilly

[keen heath]

gateway, glitch, and infuser are top 3 gadgets for light so breach doesn’t really have a chance lol

[hollow basalt]

infusor invalidates the rest of em

[nova veldt]

nerf dagger

[nimble schooner]

Yeah probably better, but I still don't think it would be worth running over strong light gadgets, unless you're playing against and with really uncoordinated teams

[pulsar mauve]

I definitely haven't posted this numerous times.

[tropic kettle]

Sybauuuu

[twin harness]

I kinda like how glitch is the best nade. Goo overall is just an op mechanic

[rapid girder]

Sybauuuu

[lucid island]

the false messiah has arrived

[lean hazel]

I think it has a niche at least
Personally I would run it over say thermite rounds or gravity vortex on some maps

[inland crest]

For goo I don't agree, just because I feel like it would lead to less interesting strategic potential to be less able to manipulate the map to that extent.

[nimble schooner]

Honestly a cd nerf would probably be better, and if its still super dominant then maybe reducing charge count

[jolly parrot]

Of course YOU would

[mental igloo]

I support this sentiment.

[twin harness]

Goo is way too good its always up it wastes so much time it causes all kinda weird things to happen also

[lucid island]

I feel like it could have 1 charge but a 20s cooldown
I just don't want it to be spammed 24/7

[wary quest]

infuser is now contending with vanish and goonade after the nerfs

[nimble schooner]

A good goo nerf would be making it way more susceptible to fire and explosive damage

[covert marsh]

15s since 20s was the old cooldown

[twin harness]

Breech charge

[inland crest]

takes ~1.5s to shoot through and demat goes right around it. But of course in many cases that time is enough for it to be super useful

[wary quest]

generally i find it silly that everyones complaining about weapons when the gadgets are in much rougher state of balance

[pulsar mauve]

I really should have submitted this for the Highlight reel thing.

[lucid island]

yea
It's just annoying when you chase a guy and get stuck in his goo TWICE

[inland crest]

I suppose goo might now be considered stronger at higher levels due to demat falling out of the meta?

[hollow basalt]

It's really not, the healing is still pretty fucking good, its why if you see a light at high level they still run it

[wary quest]

instead of nerfing gadgets that have been meta for ages, they gut fucking frag nades of all things

[hollow basalt]

frag nade was meta until the nerf though

[nimble schooner]

Frags were really strong and meta though

[twin harness]

You walking in without reloading your weapon? You have to shoot a specific patch of the goo wall to take the whole wall down extra for no reason and yea demat doesnt work onnit. Try getting into the elevator buddy im just gona throw another one also

[lucid island]

yea you just need team coordination
if anything teams will swap out glitch nades for vanish bombs or goo

[inland crest]

I think they're still great, and they were quite meta

[jolly parrot]

Frags kind of deserved it though

[stuck goblet]

They just pick ideas out of a hat and do it, whether it's necessary or not

[pulsar mauve]

Them adding an indicator for frags seem to have made people start using them more.

[nimble schooner]

Or you just notice them more

[twin harness]

Youbjust notice it more thats thebpoint of notification

[hollow basalt]

Nah glitch nade counters shields so they're still a must pick, honestly nothing has changed in terms of meta gadgets since last season for Light, it's still infuser gateway glitch nade

[fresh juniper]

Wtf

[split dragon]

Is the grind for emerald as long as it looks

[inland crest]

Depends on the context, you don't necessarily need to. But you can pretty much always demat around the goo. Unless, yeah, the elevator, but in that case someone outside can destroy the goo much faster than someone inside could remake it.

[pulsar mauve]

I mean no I just didn't see it much last season.

[wary quest]

which class was using them?

[crude cobalt]

nooooooooooo

[ember heron]

im gonna kiss ya.

*kiss * i love ya man

[nimble schooner]

Because it was harder to see last season?

[hollow basalt]

medium

[true nova]

@stiff kernel

[lucid island]

the sad thing is the severe lack of good medium gadgets
medium is the only class using goo nades instead of something else

[fresh juniper]

People just be saying anything on the Reddit 😭

[wary quest]

did it replace jump pad or zipline?

[stuck goblet]

Let me pick the live grenade up and toss it back

[pulsar mauve]

Uh, most of their gadgets are good.

[nimble schooner]

Medium is basically the only class with a flex slot, not really bad gadgets

[twin harness]

You should bebusing zip jump defib maybe an excuse for aps. Casual is cool too tho i guess

[hollow basalt]

zipline, medium's go to was jump pad defib and frag nade until they nerfed frag nade and people started switching to goo

[brisk tapir]

Invite me when you’re done, please.

[jolly parrot]

That's mostly due to jumppad+goo combo

[ember heron]

okidoki. think it's over now

[pulsar mauve]

Let me eat it.

Oh I hope OBS caught me using Goo Gun to save my teammates from a frag the other day.

[pulsar mauve]

Why are you not in the Chinese version of this game?

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-12986085083782148824

[hollow basalt]

They don't like europeans

[pulsar mauve]

We know why.

[brisk tapir]

Quemby, you got some explaining to do.

[smoky kestrel]

Vaiiya?

[hollow basalt]

oh i see who youre replying to now I thought you were talking about the person behind the account not the character

[pulsar mauve]

No, the devs in charge of the Chinese version do.

[raw sigil]

idk if im going to pick a sponsor this season, they're both terrible

[pulsar mauve]

Free XP

[thorny gyro]

@stiff kernel Hola, where do I submit suggestions? in here or is there like a link or form to do so

[hollow basalt]

you may aswell, not like theres a reason not to

[jolly parrot]

You're half-right

[lucid island]

yea imo goo is just way too versitile
need cover? goo
need to steal? goo
need to stun an enemy? goo
want to become invincible for a split second? goo
want to stop a steal? goo
need to run away? goo
it just needs to have 1 charge and it's gonna make way for other gadgets

[pulsar mauve]

I forgot how to change from Dissun to Holtow ony name.

[raw sigil]

i cant choose which awful cosmetics i'd want

[jagged hawk]

Let me introduce you to… the goo gun

[hollow basalt]

well do you like orange or lime more

[pulsar mauve]

See I looked there but must have missed it.

[nova veldt]

they got rid of the one for dissun

[lucid island]

I love the skill expression in the goo gun
but the goo nade gotta go

[lean hazel]

All of them because it was easy damage and kills

[nimble schooner]

Counterpoint: winch exists.
Also having a wall of goo is a lot more efficient

[hollow basalt]

Yeah they got rid of the s5 ones

[jagged hawk]

Can’t wait to see TSG Ricardo in the grand major

[raw sigil]

the deagles are gross in green with the orange, i do like the hammer receipt

[jolly parrot]

I disagree. I think it's fine that it's so good. Goo is one of the most interesting mechanics in the game, it's a part of what makes finals stand out, we already got 1 goonade nerf it's fine as it is now

[lean hazel]

medium
Bad gadgets
Wat

[pulsar mauve]

Ah, Discord mobile had shown me a screen that said "Customization options not available" before.

[hollow basalt]

You dont get the t2 rewards if you didnt pick holtow in s4 so you may aswell pick holtow now for the hammer

[jagged hawk]

Posting the pullkia clip again bc it was peak

[lucid island]

I mean yea
medium only has 2 must picks while light and heavy have 3

[pulsar mauve]

If I'm feeling vindictive I'll just repeatedly encase myself with goo gun to stall my inevitable doom.

[lean hazel]

Ehh nerfing goo won't make gas grenade, pyro made etc. any less shit

[thorny gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/bmo-bmo-dance-bmo-dance-moves-gif-11726277365838992069

[nimble schooner]

Peak gameplay

[lucid island]

I'm not talking about those

[thorny gyro]

@grand kindle hi

[pulsar mauve]

Although if you trap an enemy with you it can win the team fight lol.

[hollow basalt]

Yeah at best youd just see more aps/zipline/reshaper

[patent summit]

anyone wanna play?

[last mortar]

whats the meta rn

[jagged hawk]

Absolute cinema, arde popped off

[smoky kestrel]

-lfg

[amber jacinth]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> LFG CHANNELS

Europe:
#lfg-eu-casual • #1290634115720286209 • #lfg-eu-ranked

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#lfg-na-casual • #1290634275737305190 • #lfg-na-ranked

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#lfg-asia-casual • #1290634388014633054 • #lfg-asia-ranked

Oceania:
#lfg-oce-casual • #1290634528255246439 • #lfg-oce-ranked

South America:
#lfg-sa-casual • #1290635941211410443 • #lfg-sa-ranked

Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[raven cobalt]

Nerf uhhhhhh anti grav

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[hollow basalt]

Don't look at me I already picked you in s4

[pulsar mauve]

Medium's swapping to APS to counter my MGL32 only to discover I have Goo Gun on.

[raven cobalt]

Poor choice. Scamsurance.

[hollow basalt]

The other choices were insul-t and whogimo

[nova veldt]

buff heavy hp

[raven cobalt]

Both arent as scammy.

[thorny gyro]

@rancid schooner hello

[lucid island]

it would be really cool to see data reshaper in the major as a substitute for glitch nade

[raven cobalt]

Holtow has insurance for silly things to take your money

[pulsar mauve]

It's slept on.

[hollow basalt]

||to be honest with you i do regret not picking iseul-t since i ended up using the facemask for a long time and i ended up not using a single holtow cosmetic but i picked them in s5||

[crude cobalt]

dude I am so bad with the deagles

[lucid island]

it def has a high skill ceiling tho

[rancid schooner]

Hi?

[south flint]

hello i guess

[pulsar mauve]

For one thing, you can get a near on-demand heal orb, which deals 50 healing if you directly hit a teammate.

[thorny gyro]

Do you know the place where I can submit suggestions? is there a channel or form or link?

[rancid schooner]

Thank you

[thorny gyro]

cosmetic suggestions

[rancid schooner]

#👂┇game-feedback I suppose

[south flint]

that would be #👂┇game-feedback

[jolly parrot]

It's crazy to me how it was so good when it was introduced and no one used it. Then it got nerfed and people still don't use it.

[lucid island]

as long as there's a canister around

[pulsar mauve]

Another CM said Eggmail could be used for suggestions.

[thorny gyro]

cool, ty

[pulsar mauve]

There tend to be. Or props.

[south flint]

I'd say eggmail is for the discord server suggestions, works great there, for the game itself though yeah use the channel

[vivid lily]

I feel like healing barrel is one of the least insane things about data reshaper when you can literally spawn glitch barrels with it which are just better glitch nades if you use them right

[umbral pumice]

Peak

[pulsar mauve]

Data Reshaper is how I got this clip.

[pulsar mauve]

Depends on your focus.

[nova veldt]

#nerfwhiteteam

[lucid island]

lmao

[umbral pumice]

Idk I just can't justify taking it over other things. I won't deny that it's useful

[lucid island]

may I remind you that it also desintegrates rockets and bubble shields?

[wheat sandal]

next time i get trash ass teammate i will cripple the shit out of them

[hollow basalt]

its an "always in reserve" kind of gadget just like aps

[wheat sandal]

istg they dont do SHIT AT ALL

[pulsar mauve]

Not a Data Reshaper thing, but similar concept.

[jolly parrot]

Thing is you have to be inside the shield to reshape it, and glitch nades are way better for that

[wheat sandal]

I AM GOING TO BREAK THEIR FUCKING NECK LIKE A CHICKEN

[umbral pumice]

Once again, it can be good, but i can't justify taking it

[wheat sandal]

LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
?

[hollow basalt]

He carried

[tender cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714245295659024397/1419049071527596133/attachment.gif

[smoky kestrel]

This is exactly my matchmaking, only that my mates have your stats

[tender cypress]

I mean at least the game has new players

[wheat sandal]

HE WILL GET CARRIED INTO A HOSPITAL WHEN I BREAK HIS FUCKING NECK

[hollow basalt]

GUARDS SEIZE HIM

[smoky kestrel]

Yeah right? they all seem to be in my High Plat "Easy" Lobbies too, how talented for new players

[tender cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-away-gif-13653609800890535042

[pulsar mauve]

Heavy Gadget/Spec concept: a throwable that lets you cycle through several arena barrels, then throw to spawn several of them. The specific barrels available and the number spawned would depend on if it's a spec or gadget.

[smoky kestrel]

guys, my house looks like this from above, did I make it too big?

[raven cobalt]

When cannonball for heavy

[smoky kestrel]

when heavy AS a connonball

[hollow basalt]

Next week

[lucid island]

rly? i didnt know that

[exotic sparrow]

James Bond 007

[turbid sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1135989585885810848/1374762789029019808/slammm.gif

[hollow basalt]

HOLY TRUE

[smoky kestrel]

ah yes, heavy hitters

[hexed imp]

Powershift is fun when u actually have a proper team

[jolly parrot]

We're getting heavy hitters 2 soon, judging by the S8 release stream

[brisk tapir]

Thoughts on ENGIMO being the worst sponsor?

[jolly parrot]

Hey, buddy, why don't you shut your piehole before I take out my goo gun

[tender cypress]

Engimo sucks

[jolly parrot]

No you

[brisk tapir]

No you

[jolly parrot]

No you

[brisk tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-war-of-course-looney-tunes-this-means-war-gif-12608221

[ember heron]

don't know why this is so funny to me

[lean hazel]

It would low-key be meta of you had a wheel instead of having to cycle
There's a good amount of gadget ls it counters

[brisk tapir]

Did you record that one part where we shut down the worst WiFi company ever?

[ember heron]

yes

[brazen mural]

Nah that looks pretty good

[lofty anchor]

the fact your dude screamed woah before getting mollywoped

[brisk tapir]

send it (please)

[brazen mural]

You should add a dock or something on the outside of your house facing out of the water tho

[candid walrus]

I cannot believe after all this time that servers are still not 60tps

[karmic valley]

i just witnessed the closest cashout steal in my life
it's literally 6 frames between steal and cashing out on a 120fps clip

[smoky kestrel]

yo what does your name say in Romaji, I'd like to learn

[torpid echo]

Whats with lvl 90 players, are they total noobs??

[obtuse garden]

Game time does not equal skill

[ember heron]

@tranquil valve

[mental igloo]

Level indicates play time, not skill level.

[jolly parrot]

Yes.(I'm a alevel 90 player)

[candid walrus]

and for the love of god give is AA that isnt temporal because shitty blur on far away objects in a competitive game is just awful

[torpid echo]

I know... just rather funny had 2 games back to back and the lvl 90 players were the worst by far, rocking emerald gear and struggling to get even low digit kills

[candid walrus]

sa ra ka mo ta

[smoky kestrel]

ありがと　ございます！　❤️

[torpid echo]

What has happened to suddenrock, I don't see him on the TDM leaderboard high up... did he get a lady or something?

[pulsar mauve]

Idk I like the balance of having to do a little clicky. Just make it fast, and save where it is if you stow it.

[ember heron]

playing with him now

[brazen oxide]

Cant wait

[pulsar mauve]

Oops, saved on the transparent background

[boreal ibex]

Forbidden heavy tech

[zenith lance]

i saw this on reddit the other day lol, so cursed

[raw sigil]

stupid garbage insurance or stupid plants made of garbage?

[edgy python]

Social media has ruined our way of life, my little cousin is beyond cooked

[zenith lance]

do they have to jump for it to pull them off or is it just an instant kill?

[hexed imp]

I saw this on TikTok today lol, the tech is absolutely devious

[pulsar mauve]

I'm a naming genius.

[pulsar mauve]

It's not RPG - C4 - Dome so Embark will nerf it.

[icy tundra]

Bros gonna get a man before that happens

[nova veldt]

did they fix the lockbolt + heal ball bein able to drag people around or does it just not work on dummies?

[pulsar mauve]

Istg Dummies aren't just the copy/paste of players with a different outfit you'd think they'd be.

[nova veldt]

i'll just have to try it here then

[hybrid inlet]

embark! unban the number 69!!!!

[pulsar mauve]

Embark! Let me remove numbers completely!!!!

[obtuse garden]

Embark! Release the Spuze to the world

[hybrid inlet]

some places have it outlawed

[pulsar mauve]

Embark! Fix Spear and Sledgehammer ffs!!!!

[tender cypress]

Well I wouldve been the first to know, so I doubt it

[proper pewter]

boys, should I buy this

[hybrid inlet]

consume

[rancid schooner]

Hop on Terminal Attack.

[pulsar mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/consume-they-live-weird-gif-16109744

[safe abyss]

Yep

[dire stratus]

hi guys

[compact jewel]

great set and its super cheap

[safe abyss]

Bouta have me investin more :S

[tender cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1381985482132688948/1749561411772.gif

[rancid schooner]

Such a good movie (I don't know anything about politics).

[hybrid inlet]

who wants to join me in stealing the "random outfit" option from fortnite to give to the finals

[raw sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-keller-christopher-keller-oz-chris-meloni-gif-9008721545232961925

[pulsar mauve]

I want to steal the visual sound indicators from Fortnite.

[lofty anchor]

one day they'll fix hit reg so my throwing knives actually do damage when I throw them💔

[hybrid inlet]

same, but that setting does make the game alot easier lol

no more lights sneaking up on me >:3

[pulsar mauve]

Well the sound in this game barely works.

[hybrid inlet]

never had any problems

[candid walrus]

god sword feels awful its so disorienting to use

[peak shoal]

Then play with guns ?

[compact jewel]

I hereby pronounce thyne self-proclamed lack of prowess towards the usage and expression of said weaponry

[raven cobalt]

Guys just get Fiber internet and most of your hit reg will go away its a pay to hit system

[hot canopy]

i love sword

[hybrid inlet]

me to every light

[fiery cedar]

Did they remove some cosmetics? I swear u can equip dedes helmet and now it’s gone

[hybrid inlet]

helmet? she has a mask

[peak shoal]

You mean sound cues in the finals ??

[fiery cedar]

The helmet on her waist u can equip on ur head but I don’t see it anymore

[ember heron]

E

[hybrid inlet]

oh. no idea

[peak shoal]

EE E
EEEE

[ember heron]

"The lag isn't THAT bad" - The lag:

[proud gyro]

in which channel i find teammates for ranked?

[compact jewel]

i'm at a loss of words

[hybrid inlet]

embark, golden flamethrower. pretty please.

[peak shoal]

Me when memes live rent free in my head :

[hybrid inlet]

agreed

[mental igloo]

Good night, people.

[nova veldt]

im famous

[hybrid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/electric-fan-wind-turn-hot-fan-gif-4860088

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/needy-husky-wake-up-i-need-you-feed-me-gif-16236311

[shy barn]

@proud gyro there are LFG channels you may need to go into your discord settings and check if you have them hidden. There's channels for each region

[nova veldt]

in that case im rich

[pulsar mauve]

It puts icons on the screen in the direction of the sound, and shows what the sound is. The more intense the waveform, the closer it is.

[compact jewel]

true, you know what else lives rent free in my head?

||t || || g||
||h|| ||a||
||e|| ||m||
||,|| ||e||

[weak cosmos]

how come pink team is always the sweatiest team?

[nova veldt]

the twin towers?

[peak shoal]

motherfucker

[candid walrus]

melee is more fun

[nova veldt]

ohh their spoilers

[compact jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/and-cunning-vicious-and-cunning-victim-pot-of-greed-gif-10827349568535858072

[hybrid inlet]

that pot seems greedy

[candid walrus]

you try tracking targets when the game literally prevents you from looking around during a lunge

[peak shoal]

Shit there was a user here that would post nothing but gifs of that cursed pot I miss them

[compact jewel]

no thank you, i am well adjusted to playing better classes such as the heavy class, which is completely balanced ever since season 1

[celest totem]

Nah I never let pink win

[green narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1419489644961071134/togif.gif

[peak shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-cell-games-dbz-dbza-dragon-ball-gif-14998889

Ospuze building, coming

[candid walrus]

the new revolver is actually gas

[pulsar mauve]

Gotta aim where they're going to go.

[compact jewel]

pink ALWAYS third parties at the WORST times

[edgy python]

Just used the mgl32 and got 15 assists

[celest totem]

Pink is notoriously the Karen of all teams

[edgy python]

But only 5 kills ☹️

[rapid girder]

I never let blue win

[peak shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1407487067654586478/DISSNISSUE.gif

[candid walrus]

aiming isnt the hard part

[compact jewel]

purple is the 0 IQ new players that somehow waddle themselves into a cashout teamfight and end up annoying and mess up both the original fighting teams plans, fails to steal the cashout

[edgy python]

Omg another mgl heavy in my lobby

[shy barn]

Curious, is there a channel dedicated to asking for Power Shift ranked?... I need to post in it everyday.

[celest totem]

Pink deserves nothing less than getting completely clapped, and better say thank you after

[peak shoal]

Ok but why tho

[pulsar mauve]

Sometimes it be like that. They were cruel with breakpoints.

[echo yew]

hey John Finals please stop unequiping my attachments on my guns

[shy barn]

Because I need to post in it everyday.

[compact jewel]

orange is either a goated team or someone you know so you either grief them or help them out

[rapid girder]

Why we got beef with pink

[mental igloo]

In a few hours I will.

[raven cobalt]

i AM NOT STARTING STRONG TODAY CHAT.

[celest totem]

Just a personal preference

[peak shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-skyler-white-breaking-bad-yo-my-name-is-gif-26871397

[candid walrus]

when when you're in a tight room and you can bassically only look straight you just mash your face up against a wall everytime you lunge

[rapid girder]

Word

[pulsar mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/real-bros-johnny-peter-gilroy-mendez-simi-valley-gif-13478464

[shy barn]

this gif confuses me... >_>

I need power shift ranked already...

[hoary ginkgo]

just the lfg channels

[celest totem]

Word

[pulsar mauve]

Sentence.

[raven cobalt]

hOLY SHIT I cant even get 3 kills in my first game, i hat ethe shak

[hoary ginkgo]

ohh wait nvm

[celest totem]

Punctuation

[compact jewel]

how

[rapid girder]

Comma

[shy barn]

not efficient enough love... I need these devs to get to work

[raven cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-david-schwimmer-ross-geller-cry-crying-gif-16446374608085504595

[lofty anchor]

but shak op

[celest totem]

Byeeeeeee ✌🏼

[turbid sonnet]

i cant get a single one
youre still better than me

[raven cobalt]

Oh that makes sense

[hoary ginkgo]

or just play a proper gamemode?

[peak shoal]

Rare

[candid walrus]

also since I haven't played since end of season 5 I swear cl40 got buffed or something

[lofty anchor]

comical

[rapid girder]

Bye

[manic anchor]

Is there anyone smart enough in here to tell me how many sides a pentacontaheptagon has?

[candid walrus]

it feels WAYYYY easier to use

[south flint]

@rancid schooner, even.

[lofty anchor]

I was finna say

[shy barn]

Uhhhh proper game mode? Power Shift is the best game mode...

[hoary ginkgo]

57 sides

[peak shoal]

Spectacular.

[raven cobalt]

Holtow but you're right

[twin harness]

Accurate

[chrome basin]

I love the AKM, it is love, it is life

[manic anchor]

Did you use the internet?:))

[hoary ginkgo]

well no? it doesnt have ranked, its slower to make money, takes less skill etc

[compact jewel]

heavy should get one of these

[shy barn]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-brainlet-microwave-smoke-dumb-gif-3026155548321433372

[lofty anchor]

throwable water fountain

[hoary ginkgo]

nice one

[peak shoal]

Vaiiya provided

[shy barn]

damn my gif no work

[manic anchor]

Embed failure lol.

[turbid sonnet]

wraaaaaaaaaahhhhhterfountain

[shy barn]

I'm new in this discord lol shut up

[manic anchor]

WHAT A FUCKING NAME. Peepeemeowmeow would be proud.

[lofty anchor]

should be a barricade skin ngl, big ol wall with a water fountain

[manic anchor]

I don’t think I will, it’s funny.

[hoary ginkgo]

when spartan riot shield skin guys

[shy barn]

thats okay, i'll eventually figure it out XD

[peak shoal]

I can hear Shakespeare rolling in his grave rn

[tranquil valve]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-spiderverse-dragon-ball-gif-16710249899645766833

[lofty anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/hoopla-sponge-bob-hey-shout-shut-up-gif-6125288

[rapid girder]

Why is a gun life

[manic anchor]

I bet he is, though lowkey I think he’d laugh too.

[manic anchor]

Because shooty go brrr make brain happy.

[peak shoal]

Because gun pewpew

[rapid girder]

Cars have the same effect

[shy barn]

I like you

[hoary ginkgo]

sword better tho 🔥

[manic anchor]

Does anyone else notice how part way through the brick turns brown part way through.

[sterile garnet]

You dare question basic american principles?

[manic anchor]

But gun portable and more fun :(((

[lofty anchor]

I just noticed that, I hate you

[twin harness]

Bacon is delicious

[rapid girder]

I own guns and drive car

[manic anchor]

Both are equally as fun.

[peak shoal]

Mmmmmh

[robust mesa]

Car more expensive tho

[sterile garnet]

So you're happy 👍

[rapid girder]

True

[hoary ginkgo]

ehh idk, im too scared to play swords in ranked but in tdm i play sword and will drop like 27 kills and 2 deaths

[robust mesa]

I have a safe princess I need to take out too 😭

[peak shoal]

Man

Moolah bacon cheeseburgers

[twin harness]

You can kill more people with a car so whats the pointnof the gun

[hoary ginkgo]

only on roads

[manic anchor]

Good fucking job. I can barely break 12-13 kills. At least it’s better than when I was a kid when my KD was regularly 3-7

[rapid girder]

I think killing people is against the law

[hoary ginkgo]

lol, that was once specifically tho. my team was SO horrendous and i actually locked tf in and 1v5d basically

[twin harness]

Depends where you live

[candid walrus]

wait hold on double barrel can one tap heavy???????

[manic anchor]

OHHHHH… okay that’s fair.

[sterile garnet]

But where is the chicken that laid nama Tama

[hoary ginkgo]

idk i do avg 20+ kills on sword tho, only on small maps

[manic anchor]

Two spread. It needs two full spreads to kill.

[robust mesa]

But killing people isn't fun. Driving and target shooting is

[limpid jetty]

nerf zipline

[hoary ginkgo]

its very hard to fight against a light with all his dashes

[peak shoal]

A philosophical question right here

[twin harness]

Dont let them hear you say that

[manic anchor]

Also fair, well goddamn. Maybe I’ll be that good someday.

[hoary ginkgo]

im one of them

[candid walrus]

one the people im playing against is doing 351 in one shot I don't hear 2 different shots is all at once thats weird

[manic anchor]

Are you assuming the war criminals gender?

[manic anchor]

Audio latency more than likely.

[hoary ginkgo]

i turned to the light side tho, im maining the CB now

[sterile garnet]

So then what is the dark side...

[raven cobalt]

PLEASE EMBARK. 1 DMG BUFF TO MGL. AT THE MINIMUM PLEZ

[crude cypress]

Mgl rework never, suffer

[manic anchor]

Play goo gun m60 and your sins will be forgiven.

[hoary ginkgo]

sword, dash, gas, pyro and sonar like my old loadout

[robust mesa]

Light's pronouns are that/BITCH

[raven cobalt]

Dont rework MGL just fuckin buff it

[peak shoal]

Cb is fine but you need to know how to aim

On God I had a random fill player using that gun he could NOT hit for shit

[manic anchor]

This is just the sub optimal side.

[candid walrus]

god I hate the double barrel haha even as a light main

[crude cypress]

MGL does need a bit of a rework tho, it's kinda fucking ass unless you play heavy in a way that doesn't use half the kit

[hoary ginkgo]

is there a better sword loadout?

[robust mesa]

Wdym you don't like being one tapped by another light going the speed of sound?

[twin harness]

Mgl is a marksman weapon

[crude cypress]

I had a diamond border light player drop 1k combat score in a ranked round yesterday, a lot of players just suck

[raven cobalt]

No, it doesnt. Just gotta get creative with the kit.

[manic anchor]

Gateway, vanish, dash, smoke. Good for getting away repositioning and sneaking about.

[hoary ginkgo]

my fav thing in this game is catching a heavy minigunner unaware with a sword

[whole ridge]

Db /cl-40/shak is the dark side

[crude cypress]

ah yes, standing far away or shooting grenades off a wall is so creative

[candid walrus]

the fact people don't really complain about shp even though its bassically a better melee weapon baffles me

[compact jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1411758062133317755/bronze.gif

[peak shoal]

You forgot goo

[manic anchor]

Wait until you fight a goo gun minigun main. That will not be fun.

[hoary ginkgo]

i play crazy aggro as a light, i deadass dont run away i just go in and dash around idk how i dont die

[raven cobalt]

Shooting a gun, ah yes, creative

[twin harness]

I like to null the mini gun guys and watch them rev the gun up again

[pine solar]

How did I just die in 1 shot from a throwing knife?

[robust mesa]

You say that but I dueled a sniper at range once with the MGL. I won. (Just don't ask about all the other times I lost)

[hoary ginkgo]

true goo kinda counters me cuz i cant get at them

[crude cypress]

Bc DB is only really good against bad players xd

[twin harness]

No irony detected im dedass

[manic anchor]

Fair enough. That said? Gateway is fun as hell you’re missing out. Try the neongutz loadout:

[tawdry swallow]

Bc it happens

[muted lynx]

fr'

[whole ridge]

I think he means just like a couple changes that change it a lil but keep the concept in tact like the dagger s3 rework

[hoary ginkgo]

ive been wanting to try out being a dagger main

[candid walrus]

so is melee? most melee I would argue is not very good against people who know what they're doing and yet so many people bitch about it

[manic anchor]

It’s cool. Try it out but with sword though. Now that’s peak.

[crude cypress]

It just boils down to bad players not knowing how to play against something then assuming the thing is OP

[raven cobalt]

Would it be better for the Finals to make the MGL with an easier barrier of use? Yeah, probably.

[manic anchor]

Anyone who doesn’t have very good audio or who hasn’t been focusing enough to hear and detect enemy foot steps and react to them gets diffed hard by these weapons.

[whole ridge]

And good against melee players

[hoary ginkgo]

i mean if a sword gets you when youre not aware there is literally no counter unless youre also melee

[twin harness]

No because look hkw they cry about cl40

[crude cypress]

Depends on the class really, lights have movement options, most mediums carry jump pad, and heavy is heavy

[candid walrus]

dude the audio in this game SUCKS

[sudden agate]

should I hit leg day before work or just keep playing the finals?

[manic anchor]

Well… if you’re running a weapon with windup you can still kill them and if not it’s just… shoot them.

[lean hazel]

Nah I don't want the skill ceiling of the MGL to be removed because people are too lazy to learn it and just want it to be another CL-40

[vale ingot]

leg day!!

[candid walrus]

the mixing is awful

[twin harness]

You can do both at the same time

[sudden agate]

WRONG ANSWER

[manic anchor]

It’s not that bad. I play without a headset on a LED TV. I can’t really focus that well either and I still catch em.

[hoary ginkgo]

idk again i mainly play tdm and ive never really died if i catch someone unaware in an enclosed space, even like 3 ppl at once im confident i can kill all 3

[vale ingot]

leg day is walking around on Kyoto

[whole ridge]

Junkrat like weapons should not be meta but its so laughably bad it needs a buff cuz rn it easily bottom 3 in the game

[crude cypress]

"skill ceiling" of the what man? You just bounce grenades and hope the person you're shooting at sucks

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-wow-really-omg-no-way-gif-16174103

[crude cypress]

Tbf TDM is normally a very casual mode, I don't really see it as something a ton of really good players sit in xd

[manic anchor]

I sentence you to three Kyoto powershift matches.

[worldly stream]

So many bad takes man

[whole ridge]

You have never fought a decent mgl main then

[hoary ginkgo]

yea true, i just farm money xd

[candid walrus]

IDK for me the audio in this game is probably the worst ive ever used,

[hoary ginkgo]

kyoto is my worst map, but ill either do the same thing of rushing in on the platform or ill play smt with grenade launchers and just nuke tf out of the platform

[raven cobalt]

I love MGL how it is, it literally just needs to be buffed by minimum 1 damage just for the Medium breakpoints.

[candid walrus]

subjective I suppose

[lean hazel]

That bounce mechanic unironically makes it harder to use than most of the weapons in the game and keeps it from just being another cl-40 clone

But you obviously don't play the weapon beyond a surface level so eh

[manic anchor]

LMAO that last one sounds funny as hell.

[crude cypress]

I have seen MGL 2 times between season 6 and 7, like granted I don't play casual modes lol

[vocal yacht]

Impacts with heavy projectile weapons, artillery strikes from jump pads, and god forbid you try to break a wall with this thing

[manic anchor]

Try killing a motherfucker midair. Oh wait… you can’t.

[hoary ginkgo]

ran a team with 2 cl40 and 3 mgls once that was HILAROUS lolll

[lean hazel]

I don't see how this doesn't prove my point unless you're just tryna yap

[manic anchor]

That sounds like literal trench warfare.

[west cliff]

Hey y'all how to I level up in this server?

[manic anchor]

I was literally trying to help prove it. Calm down.

[rapid girder]

Beer

[whole ridge]

This has nothing to do with casual bud the difference between a good mgl and a brand new mgl is night and day

[crude cypress]

It just fucking sucks as a weapon, you have to put in like 2x the work of any other heavy weapon just to maybe kill a bad player who doesn't know what they're doing. I played the MGL a shit ton when the game came out, it's just not worth the effort to use it

[tender cypress]

Yapping

[worldly stream]

Why don't bow or throwing knives have to reload their quiver/knife pouch

[hoary ginkgo]

dude in tdm i also once went against 5 MINIGUNNING HEAVIES who sat in a building and just camped with mesh and dome shields and literally just were impossible to kill, it was so completely unfun to fight against

[west cliff]

thanks!

[crude cypress]

And the good MGL players don't go in ranked why??

[worldly stream]

Magic!

[twin harness]

I can thats why i won blast off matches get owned

[hoary ginkgo]

cuz theyre already bad weapons lol 😭

[tender cypress]

The same reason AKM doesn't have to reload its magazines

[lean hazel]

Dawg you just don't know how to use it

It's not weak

[manic anchor]

I’ve had that experience before, the counter is a lot of c4 glitches and flamethrowers.

[hoary ginkgo]

its situational, just use it if the gamemode allows for it

[manic anchor]

On MGL?

[crude cypress]

In what universe is MGL not weak

[tender cypress]

How the fuck do you reload a quiver 😭

[limpid jetty]

you're joking, right

[lean hazel]

Also theres a different between a weapon being hard to use and just being ass

The MGL is the former

I'm not making this argument with riot shield, spear, etc.

[twin harness]

Oh nvm i takeit back

[stone thistle]

Pineapple doesnt belong on pizza

[vale ingot]

MGL is crazy with the right positioning.

[worldly stream]

You take it off your back, and place 3 more arrows into it

[limpid jetty]

okay but it's hard to use, and the payout is no better than any other gun is.

[twin harness]

Thats what i say to my gf

[whole ridge]

Least picked weapon
Hardest to use
Appeals to niche audience
Outclassed by every other weapon
Surprised when it isn’t in ranked

[crude cypress]

Literally this

[vocal yacht]

Antigravity nades feel great when trying to get someone out of cover, especially if they are entrenched or in power switch

[lofty anchor]

why should they

[tender cypress]

Ok so why don't we reload our magazines

[pulsar mauve]

Boring

[crude cypress]

"Outclassed by every other weapon" man I wonder who's making that point rn

[high pier]

did you win?

[lean hazel]

It's payout is amazing in the right circumstances it's just has weaknesses

[candid walrus]

my verdict after 3 days of playing after leaving since end of season 5: still has bad optimization, bad server performance, hitreg issues that it's had since season 1, and bad directional audio. Balance seems solid, but the disparity between good weapons and bad weapons feel wider than ever.

[stone thistle]

Yall wild, I played with Andrestown when he was using MGL, that shit is oppressive

[raven cobalt]

MGL is fine to use once you get the hang of it. Like any other gun

[limpid jetty]

like you could sit there dodging, hopping, peeking corners, and calculating trajectories, to get a kill, in the right circumstances, vs just... shooting someone directly from any angle at any time with a regular gun

[hoary ginkgo]

mgl i think you just need to have good teammates to cover you

[pulsar mauve]

Ranked is just dookie.

[worldly stream]

We reload our gun, I know what you're trying to do but it's not the same. I guess they could drop their quiver and pick up another one similar to our magazines aye?

[twin harness]

Mgl isnt bad the heavy kit allows you to sit back and spam safely

[whole ridge]

Light dagger Mr M main (cry about pike nerf😢)

[hoary ginkgo]

its a supporting weapon youre not meant to top frag with it you can just shut down areas of the map

[tender cypress]

No, it is the same

[crude cypress]

People just wanna feel special bc they're doing well against actually bad players in casual modes who don't know what they're doing vs common weapons

[worldly stream]

Nah you're just a moron 😅

[raven cobalt]

bruh came straight over from call of duty

[inland crest]

supporting your team effectively while doing so is the hard part

[sudden geyser]

I got a question

[pulsar mauve]

Not always, tho.

[crude cypress]

I haven't played a cod game since black ops 2 man, the rotary GL is one of my fav weapon in the world, I would love for it to be good but it's not worth the payout

[sudden geyser]

If I were to buy 5 seasons worth of battle passes and grind them all could I get all the rewards?

[left stone]

zomg

[manic anchor]

Holy shit that spot was CRAZY. The bouncage goes hard.

[raven cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1330047861215334420/Skissue.gif

[pulsar mauve]

MGL32 is the best defensive weapon because you can set yourself up to deny steals without direct line of sight.

[whole ridge]

Wt and ranked has almost the same playerbase especially at the end of the season stop acting like ranked is against only ruby players

[vale ingot]

it is high skill/high reward fo sure

[lean hazel]

The bounce mechanic is the MGL's greatest strength and biggest weakness

[crude cypress]

Go play your quick cash man </3

[manic anchor]

It’s THE turtle weapon. Also any tips about setting areas up for that?

[pulsar mauve]

Biggest thing to avoid is letting them get close while in the open.

[crude cypress]

Good players are not dying to an MGL man

[lean hazel]

Hitting someone without them being able to see you is a very strong mechanic and it also balances it out from being overpowered

[raven cobalt]

If you suck with MGL its literally a skill issue. The dancing was meant to be mocking.

[worldly stream]

Quick cash is actually the best cash

[candid walrus]

oh also that camera exposure effect is still awful please make it an option

[west cliff]

I agree

[crude cypress]

I'm not saying I suck w the weapon, I'm saying it sucks

[sterile garnet]

CANON

[limpid jetty]

you really can't shut down areas of the map if people put 2% of their brain power into countering you.

[twin harness]

Its not about being able to outshot an mgl there are times where you are fighti g and explosions just start going off and you get clapped

[pulsar mauve]

Put two barricades connected to each other behind the cash out station and use it as a backboard. Pyro Mines nearby if you want.

[manic anchor]

Wait that’s actually kinda goated. Bet.

[shadow jackal]

Jesus is kiiing uh anyway how is everyone

[manic anchor]

KABOOM.

[lean hazel]

Me when I argue in bad faith

[whole ridge]

Good mgl mains can get mgl into a spot where it can shred ppl in a box or small room it can get a teamwipe before you can blink ur eyes

[lean hazel]

MGL can shred in the right circumstances,
Indoors it's a great weapon and can easily shut down steals or approaches

[west cliff]

Why the limit on starting a VC?

[raven cobalt]

Winch and MGL

[graceful wing]

Help, since last night at approximately 11 pm, many of us have been experiencing a connection error. TFLA0020
Is anyone experiencing the same thing or know what's happening? 💀

[crude cypress]

Oh yes, it's only good in super niche circumstances that are easily avoidable, what a good weapon!

[rapid girder]

Ball

[tawdry swallow]

In some cases sure, in other cases you dont get a choice just like any other weapon