crafted gear do be 580 tho
#endgame-lounge
stiff hull
classical gear is frighteningly expensive
verbal oak
ye, it did just come out
panda drops 580 gear tho so at least you can just focus on getting to 565
silver bane
Titan prog = shiva prog, statues prog = shiva prog, lions prog = shiva prog, BR prog = lions prog
viscid gust
you can definitely meet 565 if you get aphorism full left side and a ring and your 4 endgame dungeon accessories
and since aphorism isn't capped weekly you can just keep grinding endgame dungeons for it
stable basin
will 6.1 add new crafted battle gear? or will craft be useless on 6.1? lol
steady pebble
no
Crafted combat gear comes with raid tiers. which are released in even patches, so next set will be 6.2
stable basin
so basically the only craft-related thing to do in 6.1 will be to make better crafted left side tools for 6.2?
steady pebble
if it follows shb, then yes we'll get left side crafted for crafting/gathering in 6.1. A scrip set in 6.2, and the final set of crafted gear for doh/dol in 6.3. A final set of scrip gear in 6.4
stable basin
AH, i bet 6.1 will introduce new boss glamour like weapons right?
lyric summit
it might, but those have always been pretty random
the crafted glowing trial weps
and the final endwalker trial will have an extreme dropping its own 585(?) weapons
stable basin
kinda sucks that crafting will get backstage on 6.1 :c , unless they do something like Ishgard Restoration.
grand mesa
what iL were sosex weapon drops at again?
steady pebble
i495
grand mesa
Ah.
lyric summit
that was 5.3 though not 5.1
steady pebble
ye
grand mesa
Aye
steady pebble
hades was 465
stable basin
ay
grand mesa
Interested to see what the weapons end up looking like
steady pebble
i mean, this is really nothing new
stable basin
probably light infused to blind us
steady pebble
.1 isn't exactly going to be big for crafters
amber lark
Hello everyone, I have a question. I’m new to raiding. Is raiding necessary to advance in the game or not really?
steady pebble
we'll probably get custom delivery npc with 6.1
stable basin
then gotta wait for 6.2 at around september 2022? lol
grand mesa
Most people doing raids are doing the endgame content for the latest dlc
So, you'll have to be finished with endwalker
This tier will exist for a while though
So, no rush lol
steady pebble
but like, hoping for something beyond some new housing items, new crafted set and final trial ex stuff is just setting yourself up for disappointment in the crafting department
stable basin
yea no rush , there's LOADS of time for raiding and its not necesary , just optional harder content
steady pebble
Hello everyone, I have a question. I’m new to raiding. Is raiding necessary to a...
entirely optional
stable basin
nah im fine with it being every 2 patches
gives me plenty of time for other content and not focus on crafting as i was doing
grand mesa
You do endgame for the difficulty and the gear, but you only need the gear if you want to do stuff that's difficult
It's an entirely seperated ecosystem from the rest of the game, p much
stable basin
Seeing as how ShB did great, they will most likely keep the patch prog. the same
kinda wish they did something smaller with Ultimate fights, like not a full gear but a higher level crafted weapon/accs to fight Ult on the first weeks.
verbal oak
i mean for ult you'd have BiS by then
since you need to clear p4s
but yeah grinding dungeons for that kinda sucks ass later, would be nice to get a 475 gear to make it less painful to try old ones or somethin
stable basin
Yea i mean make Ult. more approachable for people wanting to try. Keeping Savage BiS but tweaking with only new accesories crafted similar iLvl but with pentameld and stuff.
verbal oak
i mean if you cant clear p4s good luck trying to do an ult lol
stable basin
Not saying p4s should be taken out as a req lol
verbal oak
ah
stable basin
just BiS changeup for more craft importance
stable basin
6.2 is so far D:
steady pebble
BiS for ultis often have been dungeon gear
verbal oak
its not like we have much else to do outside of savage rn
steady pebble
but that said, crafted gear has its place
its often used week 1 by raiders
and catch up gear for new players
verbal oak
i wasnt aware of how little 90 content we get in a main expac patch
stable basin
im sure that if they add too much endgame content people will complain it's too overwelming
verbal oak
ye, i just dont wanna wait 3 months for 6.1 hahaha
stable basin
same :p , but we gotta be respectful for players that can't catch up as quick. plus let the devs rest xD
verbal oak
i guess if i want a new challenge i could level up dark knight
torpid ether
same :p , but we gotta be respectful for players that can't catch up as quick. p...
This. let... the... devs.. rest >.<
i remember when someone in the crowd asked yoshi p if they could get puppetmaster tanks
yoshi-P "we would....die"
stable basin
pls don't kill your heroes
vernal breach
... soooo anyone know the tank lb timing for channeling flow #3? :v
quick verge
uhh
vernal breach
i have faith in you
vernal breach
is that layman's for coherence
quick verge
yea
reef raven
Holy crap P1S is forgiving
I don’t remember E1S being this forgiving on clears
Those stupid orbs…
ember cosmos
hey if you want it to be mroe annoying go fin d some groups in PF
90% chacne they will screw it up somewhere
reef raven
It was a pf group. Half of them were first time practicing.
It was advertised as 初見 which is first view
ember cosmos
and you cleared? or got close? good group then
most of my pf groups sucked and rarely made it past fourfold shackles, half of them screwed up first intemperence
reef raven
We completely screwed up the last shackles too
ember cosmos
butyou are right the fight is pretty lenient on its dps check
reef raven
Yeah I just remember E1S absolutely needing those melee LBs the first couple weeks
dull radish
E1S was pretty similarly lenient as well, both for mechanics and for the DPS check. Though of course, neither are anywhere near as easygoing as O1S was
dull radish
Charybdis I think was not in normal mode? Otherwise I'm pretty sure it didn't have anything new, at least nothing that comes to mind
dull radish
it's been a while since I've even thought of the fight, other than someone mentioning a few weeks or so back reminding me that normal mode does indeed have an enrage
torn kindle
not sure if all the omega normals have an enrage
i only heard of o3 having one
which is at like 20+ minutes???
sinful brook
I know of has one I've sat in the instance for it once
reef raven
Huh I must have just been worse at my job then.
stiff hull
well, getting to i570 average wasn't hard
...this is the part where i'm gonna have to start to suffer starting from EX1/EX2 isn't it
verbal oak
...this is the part where i'm gonna have to start to suffer starting from EX1/EX...
its the same ilvl as crafted gear you can buy with gil
and the exs are pretty easy compared to if youve done any old ones synced
stiff hull
the last ex i've done synced was...titan
verbal oak
about the same difficulty then
reef raven
What’s the ramp of difficulty between P1S and P2S?
verbal oak
What’s the ramp of difficulty between P1S and P2S?
p2s has an actual dps check
more of a "dont die and press some buttons"
but thats still more than p1s lmao
stiff hull
about the same difficulty then
i must note i did titan ex synced with ironworks gear, while for EX1/EX2...the "scale" of the gear is much less comparatively speaking
also, i'm not sure how good (or more realistically how horrible) my job execution is
pallid gorge
ironworks are absolute best gears for arr stuff
stiff hull
i'm aware. that's why i don't suppose it counted
zinc jetty
How rough is o8s nowadays
zinc jetty
that's good to hear maybe now i can farm for my mount without any issues
reef raven
more of a "dont die and press some buttons"
Ok, sounds similar to E1S and E2S then, shouldn’t be impossible.
I only play in pf groups after work so it takes a while usually.
verbal oak
Ok, sounds similar to E1S and E2S then, shouldn’t be impossible.
p3s is when dps checks start being a concern yeah
oof pf, good luck gamer
reef raven
It’s a heck of a lot better in Japan from what I can tell by my experiences here and hearing about English servers.
maiden sapphire
New here and not sure if this is the right place for this so sry if its not. But I'd really like to do/learn savage fights and in the process of learning the p1s but ppl rage quit and I can never prog. I would like to kno if anyone has a static or want to start one up I main WAR i580 pm me 🙂
frank quiver
New here and not sure if this is the right place for this so sry if its not. But...
If you're looking for statics, try the recruitment servers or #494379215420915712. I'm sure there are casual and/or learning-oriented groups out there. 
https://discord.gg/ffxivrecruiter
maiden sapphire
@frank quiver thank you
paper violet
A question
Close the distance orchaestion - You can buy it in Ultima Thule Gem vendor, but does it require rank 3?
vernal breach
Yes
finite plank
where are the night versions of garlemald and such
steady pebble
probably be added in 6.1
shb was the same in that day theme was there on release, night themes were added in 5.1
steady pebble
yush
finite plank
weird
frank quiver
Heyo, for this Elmo Strat, would both tanks need to invuln?
torn kindle
Yes
oak sleet
Ok… so I can’t seem to find a proper answer, what’s the stat priority for warrior? Is it still Crit > comfy sks (what’s “comfy” atm I don’t know either honestly) > det and avoid dh?
mortal stone
Ok… so I can’t seem to find a proper answer, what’s the stat priority for warrio...
Crit > det > tnc
Avoid DH and SkS
Warrior no longer needs any SkS
oak sleet
Crit > det > tnc
Ok I see, thank you sir! But, why do they not need sks anymore? Would it not be a slight increase in dps still? Or was ten buffed somehow and I’m not aware of it?
mortal stone
You don’t need to fit your gcds into any particular windows anymore
With the IR change
WAR melded SkS last expansion to fit 5 fell cleaves into IR
That’s not a thing anymore
You can meld SkS either for personal comfort or if you want something to work out with certain fights, but generally speaking you no longer need it at all anymore
vale dagger
Triangle markers don't have to do anything but just stand on their designated spot?
For P2S
oak sleet
You can meld SkS either for personal comfort or if you want something to work ou...
ah ok i see thank you!
mortal stone
Triangle markers don't have to do anything but just stand on their designated sp...
For flow?
Flow/overflow
vale dagger
Flow/overflow
I forget the name its when everyone gets triangle and squares
Is there 2 phases of this?
Only saw 1
mortal stone
Oh do you mean kampeos?
Sorry it’s hard to tell what mechanic you’re talking about lol
For kampeos you want the body numbers on the safe squares, with the evens on the square the boss is on and the odds on the square opposite. The lower number stands in front and swaps after body hits them. Meanwhile the head numbers stand on the long grates separately
vale dagger
That's the one, but triangles do nothing but stand on their spots?
And hope I have enough time to run to the opposite side
mortal stone
That's the one, but triangles do nothing but stand on their spots?
If you mean the head people yeah
They stay still on the long grates
I haven’t been in a scenario where someone couldn’t make it to their spot in time unless they just didn’t know the mechanic yet
vale dagger
Oh good! So its more forgiving than P1S timers?
vale dagger
Oh wow! I will pay attention to make sure I don't move back too far
This will be my 2nd day on P2S
mortal stone
Kampeos is probably the hardest mechanic in the fight. It’s downhill from there after you pass it imo
cloud mortar
how happy should our newly made midcore static be with this performance for P1S?
Is it worth writing home about or is it just average for a static
sinful brook
thats fine tbh
depends on what you're looking for most importantly
if you want some bleeding edge hc group you wouldn't pass
but most groups would be fairly happy with a purple player they like playing with
grand mesa
how happy should our newly made midcore static be with this performance for P1S?
If it clears it's good enough
Unless you like, have severe issues outside of that
unborn remnant
Can any one link a picture Elmo tornado strategy for ps3 thanks!
frank quiver
sage summit
Sorry, new to savage raiding. What is Proximity, and what is Share?
I get that Share means OT provokes to grab aggro, but the video seems to continue using the MT? So is it a tankswap or?
wintry ridge
are the current savage raids puggable?
wintry ridge
i guess 4s is the brickwall then huh
pallid gorge
3s is
4s feels “easier” cause eventually you know where to go .. it’s super choreographed
wintry ridge
now to decide on a class sam reaper or drk / gunbreaker
trying to decide what to gear
got all my characters pentamelded with the 580 green stuff
seems like reaper might be best for party over sam
dull radish
Sorry, new to savage raiding. What is Proximity, and what is Share?
I get that S...
proximity = does damage based on distance to the target. More often colloquially referred to as a "flare", the general strategy is that the party stands away from the person targeted by it
Share = splits the total damage of the attack between people hit by it. More often referred to as a "stack"
To be a bit more clear on a few points here, warder's wrath is just a name for some raidwide damage. The tankbuster itself is either called "pitiless flail of purgation" or "pitiless flail of grace".
It's traditionally a tank swap for both of them--the person hit initially takes a big hit + knockback and takes a magic vuln, making them unable to be hit by either of the followup mechanics safely (whether it be the tank flare or the stack), so the other tank will provoke after the first hit and either stand away with the flare, or take the stack to share with the party. Also an option is using invuln to not have to worry about swapping
sage summit
proximity = does damage based on distance to the target. More often colloquially...
Ah... So if i'm the OT, and the MT gets hit by "X of Grace", I have to provoke, and take the next attack and move away from the party/tank? And then it's a tank swap until the next Grace?
dull radish
if it's grace, the MT takes the first hit and you take it off of them and stand with the rest of the party to share the stack damage
if it's purgation you instead voke similarly but stand away from the party (potentially taking a few steps away from the boss if you want to play it extra safe)
sage summit
if it's purgation you instead voke similarly but stand away from the party (pote...
In either case, am i keeping the aggro and tank swapping? Or will the MT voke to get back the aggro?
unborn remnant
Thanks
dull radish
In either case, am i keeping the aggro and tank swapping? Or will the MT voke to...
usually it'll just be a swap until the next tankbuster goes out. Note that it's like a lot of other tankbusters of this type, where you can just voke during the cast and the initial hit will still target the old MT and the followup will be on you. Make sure to mitigate if it's purgation since it'll do a solid bit of damage on you as well
sage summit
usually it'll just be a swap until the next tankbuster goes out. Note that it's ...
Alright, so it's a tank swap in the end. Thanks for explaining all of this.
zinc jetty
is pumpkin potage gnb raid food?
verbal oak
Assuming you’re at the gcd you need to be yeah
zinc jetty
Thanks
stable basin
Anyone here who has an idea on what the necessary Ilvl is for your retainers to return with venture coffers? All my retainers are now 90 and I've got 1 equipped with 580 gear but no luck as of yet (like 5-10 quick explores)
torn kindle
they're very rare in general.
from my personal experience in Shadowbringers with max yield battle retainers, I got one every 40-50 or so quick ventures, and even then it was a lot of variance
Remember, Quick Ventures have a MASSIVE loot table
It's basically every item in the game that's not the following
Current expansion raid/trial gear
Savage/Extreme Gear
Current expansion tomestone gear
stable basin
really I got tons of them in shb. Like multiple a day with only 4 retainers
karmic prism
Can someone link a video of tank invul elmo strat for p3s
weary bone
I think it's included in Happy's P3S guide
lyric summit
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vernal breach
how does one not accidentalyl steal the other tanks tether in p3s :l
golden slate
everyone except tanks stack south
vernal breach
i mean yeah, but what if i take the other tanks's ;v
dull radish
yeah, if the party is stacked and not inside of the hitbox, both tanks can stand underneath for a moment and then both grab tethers. Even if you grab the other tank's tether (or they grab yours) the other person will pick up the 2nd tether
just don't like, move away instantly and assume you have a tether or something and it'll usually be fine
or if they run out right away with one before you get in there, make sure you're not like, running in front of them--you can run more specifically in between the center of the boss' hitbox and the party to grab from there and not the other tank
golden slate
i mean yeah, but what if i take the other tanks's ;v
assign a tank to take one before the other
vernal breach
well, if both tethers emanate from the middle of the boss
and one tank yoinks one..
wat really stops the 2nd tank from yoinking that same tether when they go middle as well 
its not an issue that happens all that often i know
quick verge
u can just not walk through the center
dull radish
you can both stand there for more than a fraction of a second, or stagger timing a little and 2nd person runs between center and the party instead of going directly underneath boss
sinful brook
my cotank typically sits under the boss in front of the party and i just circle around clockwise to scoop the other once he leaves
dull radish
like that, yeah
if you don't run between the other tank and the center of the boss, you won't grab their tether. Or vice versa if you go in first
vernal breach
i c i c
gotta detour around the mid ;l
grand mesa
You have legs, I'm sure it's not impossible
vernal breach
it gets chaotic when for watever reason
people arent stacked tightly behind the foqing boss
golden slate
its not bad if the person tethered just stops moving so the tank can grab it
vernal breach
I WISH they would stop moving
but they also dont wanna risk it so they fuck off to god knows where, taking the tether with them and go out all iron giant style
paper violet
Ok is there a way to get above +6 spiritbound?
It would seem "That Which Binds Us II" and Superior Spiritbound potion do not stack
raw granite
question for ppl who've done savage what's the first savage raid u did? was it on release or at a later date? I really want to get back to raiding (starting with exes ofc) but I also wanna know what savages I could do first ,,
Im very very interested in O4S bc of the transition 
weary bone
My first Savage raid was Pandaemonium
verbal oak
question for ppl who've done savage what's the first savage raid u did? was it o...
P1s is a great place to start
Good gear, solid strats, great place to start working on your rotation
raw granite
what if i want to play healer 😰
raw granite
im surprised ive seen a few ppl do pandaemonium as their first savage,,, are the mechanics not that hard?
raw granite
(ive seen eden raids and alexander raids, not much the omega ones though)
vernal breach
lol
stable basin
no coil raid people :c
raw granite
ive had my fair share of really really fucked up pfs,,
vernal breach
iirc i did a few turns of coil back in 2015...(?)
raw granite
is it just me or did the healer queue go back to normal?
vernal breach
its almost like sage was infact not the "gunbreaker of healers" that people were looking for
so uuh
yeah?
healer is as unpopular as ever
raw granite
cries
vernal breach
sooounds great if u ask me
although despite healers seeming unpopularity for normal content
i have almost never seen a static recruitment looking for a healer
fucking never seen one
so somehow or another, everyone already has 2 healers
meanwhile... over in pf
you see parties for days lookng for healers
conclusion: there is a very minute mount of content where people are actually wanting to play healers..
in difficult content.. with an organized group
grand mesa
what if i want to play healer 😰
p1s is easy to heal
there's like
1 mechanic where you have to preplan for a tiny bit
but aside from that there isn't really much there
vernal breach
just keep people alive through ice cubes and otherwise thers foqin nothing
raw granite
oh the ice cubes
im starting to notice how slow(?) mechanics are in ew?
not that thats a bad thing
i should just get over my raid healing anxiety and break a leg 🧍
is starting with shb exes a good idea as well?
verbal oak
No
Start with EW
Doing older content synced is kinda pointless since you’ll lose out on skills
Zodiark ex is easy enough anyways
vernal breach
im starting to notice how slow(?) mechanics are in ew?
whispers p3s
its kinda hilarious how often the damn raid has you running back and forth and across the map
Oh and theres a raid wide, raid buster, and threat of enrage at every corner and theres like a tank buster inbetween every mechanic
Its uuh, quite fun
scenic drift
im starting to notice how slow(?) mechanics are in ew?
p3s would like to have a word lol but otherwise you’re not wrong for the most part
raw granite
i see ;_;
reef raven
First day of trying P2S via PF, that was frustrating compared to P1S. DPS check seems a bit higher, though we did have 1 or two people die in those runs.
But P1S we were able to clear despite multiple deaths so I would say it’s higher.
sinful brook
im surprised ive seen a few ppl do pandaemonium as their first savage,,, are the...
How raid difficulty works is that typically the first wing of the expansion soft resets the difficulty a bit, allowing for more to access it and try it. 1st floor would be the easiest of the bunch and thendiffixulty goes up from there
sinful brook
Pf is doable
Blind typically depends on what pfs you join or make
Setting clear expectations
finite plank
do you expect to clear in 1 lockout
or do not believe in yourself to clear/reach a phase
raw granite
honestly don't expect myself to clear in 1 go but i still want to get my first clear
sinful brook
Most pfs, unless labelled specifically blind prog don't exactly appreciate when you go in with 0 idea what to do. Part of respecting people's time in pf is coming prepared. Also not joining pfs that are at a progression point farther than you are
raw granite
ill take note of that, i wouldn't want the same to happen in my own pf either
sinful brook
yet it will
raw granite
eventually ig,, NA pf is different 
raw granite
i wonder how Oceanic PF will fare
grand mesa
Not much better, probably
But yeah
Either advertise that you're blind or watch a video
Familiarise yourself with the mechs and get start proggin
You don't have to study everything completely, just get the gist of how smth works
And it'll stick once you actually do the mechs
At least, that's how I prog most things
raw granite
ill start my prog next week then but ill try my best when i start it ty for the tips
grand mesa
have fun
verbal oak
is the EX weapon
worse rn since you cant pentameld it
dusty dirge
how far is that
verbal oak
in 3 weeks you can grab one of them
dusty dirge
3???
verbal oak
i have 4
dusty dirge
I thought you need 8
verbal oak
you need 7 total
dusty dirge
hmmm
sinful brook
If youre not doing savage this isn't a huge deal though
ruby knoll
better than the crafted weapon?
Roughly same, depending on substats crafted can be better
kind schooner
pallid gorge
imma need your pf luck lol
covert ledge
to be fair, my last pf also had a tank eat a flare in the middle of the party during p1 when the boss was at 10%, other than that it was mostly fine
quick verge
based
vernal breach
its genuinely hard to see the number of markers
as well as the tethers
and many other things
in this damn raid
zinc jetty
how much dps should i be doing as a gnb in ex 2
vernal breach
if you can do atleast 4k its fine
but nowadays with all the new gear, i probably expect ya to be hitting 5k now
zinc jetty
Damn i need to work on my rotation
vernal breach
oh wait, 5k is really pushing it lol
so i do bout 4.6k as a paladin, so uuh...do that i guess? ganbate
weary bone
has there been any indication when 6.08 is dropping?
quick verge
~a month probably
rich heath
Why the heck is p3s so freaken hard I've been at this fight for 60hrs... PF
Seen enrage already and still no clear ....
I need bloody help I'm going to kill myself ...
pallid gorge
spread with no AoE marker and no true fixed position do be like that
but get some sleep and dont joke bout killing yourself
reef raven
Finally P2S clear, first run with this PF group.
reef raven
P3S is a much harder dps check yes?
finite python
In PS1 how many gear coffers drop?
lyric summit
if all 8 are getting their first clear of the week then you get 3 accesories
finite python
Okay so my group just cleared today
And we got 3
When we do it again Friday
Will we get 3 again?
And the following weeks
finite python
if all 8 are getting their first clear of the week then you get 3 accesories
In shorter words every week my group should get 3 accessories coffers
storm frostBOT
hasty ermine
Urgh
The Hauke Manor Hard Mode FInal Boss has some serious Gear Issues xD
DPS it too hard and she will wipe you nearly instantly
finite plank
just dps the right add properly
full wave
https://twitter.com/raykit_FFXIV/status/1482713493082341377?s=20 if anyone wants their eyes to bleed less
covert ledge
oh wait, 5k is really pushing it lol
so i do bout 4.6k as a paladin, so uuh...d...
not really
saying 5.5k might be pushing it but 5k is realistic atm for drk/gnb
covert ledge
😔 P2S 3rd Sewage Deluge in PF
the hell??
38% parse on p3s for gnb (i580 i believe)
so no 5k isnt really pushing it lol
but yea 4.5k~ for ex is fine
dusk sapphire
the hell??
Save me from PF hell
covert ledge
is this clear or reclear lmfao
dusk sapphire
Clear
covert ledge
🤢
dusk sapphire
Even if we mitigated, we would not have beaten enrage tbh
covert ledge
did you have deaths
dusk sapphire
Party total DPS was 38k
covert ledge
yea thats
dusk sapphire
did you have deaths
Wanna know the fun thing? No
dusk sapphire
Wanna see the DPS?
dusk sapphire
thats even under p1 dps cehck i think
Yep
covert ledge
you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that party 
covert ledge
Wanna see the DPS?
sure
covert ledge
mch is def ok
pld is ok
sge is you, whm is ok but could be better
what hte fuck is the rest of that
ember cosmos
wth is with the mnk being beaten by a tank
covert ledge
eh smn is
well
current summoners are doing 6.7kish
so they're still missing prob a ton of uptime
dusk sapphire
I just dont understand, there is no mechanics going on
covert ledge
the rest of that gives me pAAAIN
covert ledge
idek
ember cosmos
even if hes delaying it it doesnt excuse that dps
covert ledge
those people are button mashing
dusk sapphire
Oh yeah SMN and MNK were sharing last name
covert ledge
is it tuesday yet 
getting my tome weapon this week
dusk sapphire
I aint telling their names tho
covert ledge
Oh yeah SMN and MNK were sharing last name
so both button mashers but ironically the smn is doing a lot better
but sitll bad
still*
ember cosmos
is it tuesday yet <:worrystare:766905421549535273> getting my tome weapon this...
how? you need 7 blades and tomorrow will be fifth week of raids
covert ledge
how? you need 7 blades and tomorrow will be fifth week of raids
i have p3s killed with my static
weapon tomestone comes from 2 upgrade is from 3
ember cosmos
i have p3s killed with my static
ah okay
covert ledge
🤢 why
dusk sapphire
So may aswell try to get the clear this week
dusk sapphire
Ehh, its fine
ember cosmos
my static hasnt cleared p2s yet we only started it this week and we def ned to work on our dps
covert ledge
Ehh, its fine
is your static on p3? i assume since you're tryingto get the kill
dusk sapphire
is your static on p3? i assume since you're tryingto get the kill
nah, we got to enrage in p2s this sat
i just raided with em sat
dusk sapphire
they cleared p2s in PF yesterday tho, some of em
Yeah, friday is gonna be p1s reclear
then p2s clear
covert ledge
we cleared 3s as a static this thursday and some of my static already hit p4s p1 enrage (or in one case i believe p4s p2 enrage or something like that, somehwere in p2 of p4s)
p3s pf scarred me for life
idk if ill do p4 in pf during off hours
p3s in pf is a trap tho, i do not recommend
but yea, p3s was a meme week 1 for "Clear parties" and apparently it has not gotten better week 2 🙃
not sure about reclear parties
golden slate
A lot of ppl I know who aren’t in statics are stuck in adds for p3s in pf
gloomy night
do you guys have waymarks for p4s p2?
lyric summit
i think my group's are more on the edge, here's the preset if you have the plugin
{"Name":"P4S p2","MapID":801,"A":{"X":98.346,"Y":0.0,"Z":80.7,"ID":0,"Active":true},"B":{"X":119.344,"Y":0.0,"Z":98.511,"ID":1,"Active":true},"C":{"X":101.453,"Y":0.0,"Z":119.387,"ID":2,"Active":true},"D":{"X":80.447,"Y":0.0,"Z":101.139,"ID":3,"Active":true},"One":{"X":108.828,"Y":0.0,"Z":82.786,"ID":4,"Active":true},"Two":{"X":117.198,"Y":0.0,"Z":108.155,"ID":5,"Active":true},"Three":{"X":91.966,"Y":0.0,"Z":117.501,"ID":6,"Active":true},"Four":{"X":82.468,"Y":0.0,"Z":91.47,"ID":7,"Active":true}}
gloomy night
thanks 
little hornet
i’m a really new player and i’m still quite low level (also playing on the trial version currently) but i’ve been reconsidering choosing a new race and restarting. I chose the au ra but i haven’t been able to find much of any cool builds late game with them. I tried searching the web but didn’t find much. One of the main things i love in games is too make my character look cool. If anyone has any late game au ra characters with awesome armor they could share with me to change my mind, please send them my way! if not tell me why they’re such a horrible race 😂 i’ve seen a lot of hate online.
frank quiver
i’m a really new player and i’m still quite low level (also playing on the trial...
Heyo, don't think this is appropriate in #endgame-lounge. If you're low-level, try #beginner-lounge or even #general-discussion instead. Dunno what you mean by "cool builds late game." Are you referring to higher level glam? If so, there should be plenty of options. My friend plays an Au Ra, and she's in a different outfit each time I see her. You could prod #glamour-discussion for tips, perhaps?
little hornet
okay thank you for the redirection! @frank quiver
zinc jetty
So when can i hope that PFing Hex isnt going to be a cluster headache of an experience
zinc jetty
shit, there go my chances for mount lmao
quick verge
you can bash your head against it or wait for future patches so ppl can statcheck stuff
with better gear
rich heath
Why the heck is p3s is hard I've been at this shit for 60hrs+
I need clear 😭 😭 😭
If I can't clear during my 14hr prog for 3 after reset days straight I'm just going to give up
reef raven
Is P3S much harder than E3S was at the time?
reef raven
If it’s a DPS issue I’m perfectly comfortable waiting a few weeks for average ilvl to go up a bit and damage to increase before I really go after a clear.
vernal breach
saying 5.5k might be pushing it but 5k is realistic atm for drk/gnb
😔 feels pld man
covert ledge
😔 feels pld man
80th percentile plds are hitting close to 5k, tbh 5.5k is realistic for 95%+ gnbs/drks
thats for p1s
vernal breach
Thats crazy
Just last week, my 4.6k was a 99%
lilac cipher
who are these? people who rush weapon tome?
vernal breach
:shrugs:
nearly 2 weeks ago ;v
it wouldnt surprise me that people have gained 300 dps since i guess
vernal breach
thats for p1s
oh, ja p1s :v
well everything makes a whole lot of sense now
the question was for ex2 specifically so i yoinked out ex2 stats
although for p1s.. yeah ive a 4.9k dps meself
rich heath
P3s is pissing me off ive been pugging this for 10 whole days already and can't even clear
Kinda wish we would go back to lockdown at this point again
So I can just play every single day
wheat marsh
idk if that would get you a pug clear or not
vernal breach
you just gotta be real pciky with your pugs
lol
you need a blacklist bout this long
sinful brook
I'd like to present this as a counter case for pf
Put this up with my static healer and cotank
Dps spots fill instantly and we cleared on 3rd pull
torn kindle
Always trust the meme PF descriptions
sinful brook
Exactly 0 of us are catgirls
vernal breach
so... the secret to pugging is having no catgirls?
sinful brook
There was one that joined
vernal breach
and then u wiped?
torn kindle
Like what my friends did for EX1:
||Alright guys, time to put Grandpa Daniel in the Retirement home. Just follow the Almighty Dorito||
dusk sapphire
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738593174938845295/931776286475583498/u...
I see funny PF and i raise another funny PF
I checked their logs, they cleared, so i guess it worked out
vernal breach
what a happy ending
wheat marsh
there really arent any mechanics besides tankbuster in EX1 where you need to separate, are there?
just avoiding AoEs
dusk sapphire
there really arent any mechanics besides tankbuster in EX1 where you need to sep...
yeah, it's why the fight usually has a "Danger dorito" which is a player marked with a triangle and everybody follows em for mechanics
wheat marsh
is that typical for a first extreme? XD
sinful brook
first extremes and extremes in general are meant to be pretty easy
frank quiver
Gotta love it when you join on Discord to prog and they disband after an hour. 
Gotta be picky with PF groups indeed, ye.
That said, I think I’ve lost my fortitude to prog in PF. Even going into it for a bit reminds me to appreciate my static.
vernal breach
we're totes not lookin at the same thang then
i'll have to revisit ex2 and see how things have changed ;v
rich heath
Can someone help me clear p3s please
I've been at it for 10 days and been enrage parties for 4 days
Been at this for 60+ hrs
vernal breach
:shrugs: you can do it champ
rich heath
I actually calculatd it's about 80-94 hrs of progging p3s
quick verge
o.o
vernal breach
Im like 3 hours into p3s and we’re just a step away from getting through all these fucking adds
rich heath
Adds took me 2.5
days to pass because ppl stink
vernal breach
Wild, like of the 3 hours we spent
I think the most trouble i had was 1 guy being really slow to realize hiw to do darkened flames
Amd i thought that was kinda annoying already lol
Its just flood rays from dia ex
Subtraction isnt hard
finite plank
if you get a guy that doesn't understand darkened flames
i'd suggest replacing them for it's the first mechanic and it's simple
we've all seen 1/5 2/6 3/7 4/8 already
heck, you can even stack non tethered 1/4 in p2s
vernal breach
Well ive some faith they’ll get better
If they do good on their word that they’ll spend the next few days (as of saturday) working that shit out in pugs
reef raven
Sigh, another week another crappy set of lots after raids.
Would be nice to have at least 1 item a week instead of guaranteed every 4, but I guess that would be too easy?
reef raven
6.1 introduces upgrade tokens by hunts etc right?
vernal breach
i mean, in theory
the less low dmg classes you've got
the lower the skill floor is needed to beat enrage
i think
like im 300% sure the double pld and dnc in me party isnt doing us any favors but im sure we'll scrape by
ember cosmos
double dnc? yeah that may be rough they arent in a good place right now
verbal oak
4 dncs plus whatever can clear p2s if you just press buttons
whoa whoa whoa thats a lot of expectations here
i gotta press buttons?
grand mesa
unfortunately, yes
verbal oak
where can i put that on pf
grand mesa
you figure it out man
ember cosmos
4 good dnc maybe
but, well, PF
grand mesa
pf does not know how to press buttons
ember cosmos
lol
vernal breach
its not like the crap classes cant get shit done
it just means that if you have a bunch of em
you go from be allotted... 1 death down to dont fucking die at all
and its like... you dont have to deal with that lol
rich heath
I need help on p3s if anyone wants to help me I've been stuck on this fight since the 7th and been at enrage parties for several days been at this fight for 80-94hrs already plz
vernal breach
im telling ya brah its time to curate your pf parties
see some filthy grey parser in your enrage party?
boom into the blacklist
find someone new
rich heath
I'm in console
vernal breach
mm thats rough buddy
vernal breach
well the way the savage loot rules work, statics might help you....
but only after they've got their loot for the week
which means you're shit outa loot if you're lookin to get... help
vernal breach
i guess if you're willing to forgo 1 or both chests, you could get a different breed of people to help you
well something to consider slotting into your pf description then lol
rich heath
I just want a clear already been 10 days now 11 days
My rolls are shit anyways always probably below 30's
vernal breach
like just make a duty complete party and just make it clear that ya dont care about chests
and yeah man.. see how that goes
/shrug
rich heath
I'll see i hope p1s p2s reclear parties would be fast and no wipes
Last week took me 4hrs to reclear p1s
covert flame
I got a discal tome stone in my p2s reclear, wondering if it’s worth it to buy a weapon with my tomestones this week instead of a piece that would upgrade into bis
covert flame
Yeah, that makes sense, was thinking about the same thing
dull radish
especially since it's only 500 tomes nowadays, which is pretty reasonable
rich heath
Anyone cleared p3s that can help me
balmy cypress
Anyone cleared p3s that can help me
?
sinful brook
You are honestly in the wrong channel for recruitment
balmy cypress
If you have questions ask. Don't ask for a carry.
rich heath
Why not I've been pugging this for 80-94hrs already I've seen enrage ....
Almost 100hrs already
frank quiver
Don’t think you’ll get it from here. Why not join a static if you’ve had no luck with PF?
sinful brook
Because begging is against the rules of this server
Also this is the wrong channel for recruitment as I mentioned above
Might be a bit better, but pick up group stuff isn't typically done through this discord
pearl flicker
i got my ilvl 600 necklace today this like my first piece of raid gear do i have to like trade it in to wear it or something
pallid gorge
be on the desired class -> right click on coffer -> use
pearl flicker
no i mean like the thingy itself it says 1 defense
is it cuz its not in my armory chest?
ksaofj
pallid gorge
can you screenshot cause that sounds weird?
stable basin
accessories just have 1 def
pallid gorge
but that’s normal
vernal breach
the protective capabilities of jewelry are expectedly wanting
pearl flicker
i was here panikcing as if i had to do 63 more steps to wear my gear
real hazel
if all the party is with HP at 50% and I use Celestial Oposition, is that enough to get everyone healed to full?
after the regen finishes
slender lichen
for people who play rpr in endgame: is it basically "just do the opener and then press the things on cd"
like ninja
verbal oak
for people who play rpr in endgame: is it basically "just do the opener and then...
There’s a few different openers too
But you can prolly get away with that playstyle
ruby knoll
I've been at p3s for past 11 days seen enrage 5 days ago and haven't cleared
P3s is horrible
And pf has been extra bad this tier tbh
pallid gorge
it’s week 3 so things have gotten better. More guides, more diagrams, more toolboxes, more PoVs, etc
there are horror shows still but not as bad as week 1 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
rich heath
Week 1 had the best pool of pf players clearing the tier
I don't think so because in week one was doing p3s and already the 3rd week I'm in it
frank quiver
And pf has been extra bad this tier tbh
Has it? Or is it just complaints standing out (since folks won't run to Discord and talk about how their PF experience was alright)?
What's the community consensus on PF for this tier? This is my first time raiding early on, so I'm just trying to adjust my expectations.
wild ether
it's worse at least here in elemental
clearing p3 is damn near impossible cuz spread meme and people cant dps in general
silver coyote
PF is pretty bad this time around, but I wouldn't say it's insurmountable like people seem to be making it out to be. I remember the last tier of omegascape being particularly dreadful to get clears for and was a rough grind, as was e3s and e4s. And did people forget about how much of a trap e12s was? Lol endless Shiva and lion prog groups
frank quiver
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the insight.
Speaking of spread-- what's the "best" way to spread for P3S gloryplumes? Would it be to have ranged run into center after the final fire? Just trying to reduce the # of times we wipe to that.
I don't remember having this much trouble with EX2's or last tier's spreads. Can't tell if they're larger AoEs, or if it just feels that way because most of the arena is dangerous. 
rich heath
Sucks I have to eat lunch ... I need to clear p3s been 12 days of progging
subtle bone
honestly just high expectations and weak mentals
weary bone
Speaking of spread-- what's the "best" way to spread for P3S gloryplumes? Would ...
My static hasn't had too much trouble with gloryplumes
We split melees north and ranged south as normal, and split or stack as needed
visual elk
There a Dalriam group anywhere?
frank quiver
We split melees north and ranged south as normal, and split or stack as needed
Hm. Maybe we just need to see it more. Stack isn't an issue, but we die quite a bit to spread.
visual elk
Whatever it's called, in Zadnor. I need to complete it
sinful brook
idk if i'd consider pf the worst its ever been at its current state, but there are definitely a lot of contributing factors such as influx of new players and such.
sinful brook
There a Dalriam group anywhere?
dalriada is matchmade within zadnor itself so you won't be able to find a place to premade in here
visual elk
dalriada is matchmade within zadnor itself so you won't be able to find a place ...
Can still find 7 people wanting to queue into zadnor to do it. So......
sinful brook
go inside zadnor and make a party in there
visual elk
I'm in zadnor and guess what? People don't wanna do it. Crazy that I'm asking here because I already exhausted all other options
sinful brook
i understand your frustration but you're not likely to find it in this channel
its hardly considered endgame now
you're welcome to try #603040765723148289 or #retired-na-datacenters
but on this particular discord there isn't a pick up group section
dark mantle
Finding it pretty hard to even get good practice for P3S in party finder. Very few prog groups go out and the ones that do get filled up, people keep leaving after like 7 pulls.
Been at it for 4 days now and have never had a group stay in instance for even 20 minutes. Such as drastic difference from P2S where even if PF groups had trouble progging certain parts, people at least stayed for an hour
vernal breach
Practice in a different party ;0
silver coyote
Are you trying to get a clear, or phase 3 practice? It's pretty easy to tell if you're gonna struggle on birds or not, so maybe people are just leaving early?
dark mantle
Its groups that are very clearly stated as "past darkened fire" or "add prog/getting to adds prog". I've gotten less than 50 pulls on this boss and haven't gotten past sunbirds yet so its not even about the party being a trap or not
Not sure what it is but there's a huge difference in mental between p2s groups and p3s groups in terms of prog right now, its super frustrating
vernal breach
Well p3s is just harder
P2s is easy enough to where.. maybe with a bit of patience, the party will get the hang of it soon
I dont think people are as optimistic in p3s lol
dark mantle
Yeah that seems about right. Which is a shame
vernal breach
I mean, ive always been one to encourage people to curate their parties abit more
Waste less time treading through old ground
stable basin
yooo p3s gshade preset
vernal breach
I wear orange in p3s to blend in
vernal breach
Not surprised someone would make somethin like this lol
weary bone
grand mesa
glossy musk
quick verge
most ppl wont even notice the shift in dps
i looked through the fflogs discord and the bug looked like goring and blade of valor would tick simultaneously when that's impossible
so under normal play you'd have an extra valor tick once a min
quick verge
this change looks entirely inconsequential from my understanding
and you wouldnt' notice the difference on your logs unless you screenshotted the dps before and after
unless you knew about and were abusing this bug
slender widget
I'm still waiting for ilvl brackets on fflogs
subtle bone
why
frank quiver
…
That’s unnecessary, especially when IL isn’t 100% reflective of the damage you deal. Folks would “exploit” the system as well by parsing with pentamelds.
Just gear up and parse afterwards. Sucks that gear plays a role in your rankings, but it’s still possible to improve without being at BiS. You should know how scuffed and/or great your performance is even without FFLogs anyways.
That said, how does FFLogs compensate for folks who parse later on with better gear vs. Week 1 proggers? Idk how that system works.
quick verge
it doesn't
if you get lucky and get a ton of gear week 1 then you can just get good historical rankings week 2
and make your profile look pretty
frank quiver
Ah, gotcha. Thanks!
slender widget
why
imagine playing an alt during farm and then getting shit because your ranking is low even though you play your job 100% correctly. And all of that just because you don't have a 590 weapon or more 590+ gear on your alt.
because for some reason FFlogs can't add ilvl brackets
It's so stupid
most people or casual raiders that look at logs just want to see your ranking and don't care about the circumstances that your logs might just be lower bc of gear
and it's an issue fflogs created and not the game itself
high rankings are gear gated and it's so frustrating because it's an issue created by a third party where even the xiv devs have no control over it
slender widget
In defense of the FFlogs team it might just not be possible to do it. These guys are doing an amazing job with FFlogs and Warcraftlogs but it still feels frustrating
the only thing SE probably could do is making gear faster available
quick verge
In defense of the FFlogs team it might just not be possible to do it. These guys...
isn't currently possible
can't get ilvl from the combat log, which i think you can in wow
or some other easy way
slender widget
Yes I already expected something like this. I mean Warcraftlogs has it so it was highly likely that it's sadly just not possible for FFlogs
because otherwise they would have added it
echo ibex
Have a question, farming hydae atm, have 40 totems atm
If by any chance i get the mount before i hit 99, what do i do with them?
steady pebble
hold onto the totems for if /when they make a crafted verison
buy the swords and desynth them for the crafting mat
echo ibex
hold onto the totems for if /when they make a crafted verison
Putting the case i get the mount at like, 75 totems for example, what to do with them since weapons i have to spare
echo ibex
buy the swords and desynth them for the crafting mat
Huh, fair enough yeah
Okay thanks!
frank quiver
hold onto the totems for if /when they make a crafted verison
Crafted version?
torn kindle
SE eventually adds crafted versions of extreme trial weapons that have visual effects on them
!iglam dead hive longpole
storm frostBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
torn kindle
Red glow + butterflies for Ravana weapons, as an example
frank quiver
Huh, I see. Didn't realize those were crafts. Thanks!
peak badger
Is there any place on the discord where the spawn time of Chi is posted?
sinful brook
Not on this one
grand mesa
Look for a hunts/fate discord for your dc
drowsy agate
guess who this is
does fflogs actually say "pad harder" there lmao
that's hilarious if it does
quick verge
inspect element
drowsy agate
kek i had a feeling it might be edited
nimble latch
Is there a resource for OCE players to find statics on the upcoming OCE servers yet?
sage summit
When doing P1S, PF usually does Joonbob strategy for Intemperance, but Joonbob's strategy is SE Flex, what happens if PF asks for NE flex?
What does it mean if i'm the OT?
covert ledge
When doing P1S, PF usually does Joonbob strategy for Intemperance, but Joonbob's...
NE flex means ne dps flex
sage summit
Do i swap with NE instead of SE?
covert ledge
i believe so
sage summit
Alright, thanks
sage summit
ooof... i see
covert ledge
i can get why people do NE flex for melee positionals??? if positionals exist in that fight (idk i play a healer) but
realistically thats more annoying
sage summit
I don't understand? Melee positionals?
pretty sure all 9 squares can hit the boss no?
vernal breach
i made this for any OT who has to flex during intemp
covert ledge
that wasnt the question yeti
vernal breach
o7
covert ledge
pretty sure all 9 squares can hit the boss no?
yes but melees have actual flank etc positionals
ember cosmos
pretty sure flex is to allow tanks to avoid damage downs not for poistionals
covert ledge
idk if it applies to p1s though
covert ledge
pretty sure flex is to allow tanks to avoid damage downs not for poistionals
yea thats why it was originally
but why the fuck would you do NE flex
is what queueingway is wondering about
vernal breach
oh
covert ledge
does p1s have positionals?
for melees
i cant think of any other reason you'd do NE flex
vernal breach
well the guy whos at NE is probably range who gives no fucks about positions 🤷♀️
vernal breach
pew pew arrows away
ember cosmos
im honestly not sure if it has positionals but even if melee arent hitting them in intemperence its not a big deal
covert ledge
yea the thing is, SE flex is easier if theres no positionals, but are there positionals in p1s?
ember cosmos
you wont be missing that many there
covert ledge
ik p2s doesnt have positionals
sage summit
Yeah, then the guy at SE has their choice between the boss' Hips or Ass
covert ledge
yea
vernal breach
that said, despite that...
it seems standard to have SW melee flex
covert ledge
depends on data center but seems like you're both on aether
vernal breach
oh yeah
sage summit
i don't think it matters
vernal breach
SE woops
covert ledge
yea doesnt matter which dps flexes honestly
sage summit
it just means the OT (me) will swap with whoever is flex
sage summit
Thanks
covert ledge
so p1s does have melee positionals?
vernal breach
yeah?
covert ledge
oh wild
vernal breach
its not an omni like p2s
covert ledge
til
verbal oak
so p1s does have melee positionals? <:KEKW:751122217890349116>
only p2s doesnt
covert ledge
oh
vernal breach
i love p2s, i am going to spin this boss and you cant do shit bout it
covert ledge
yea ok that explains NE flex then
i mean you might get hit by something 
if you spin it at the wrong time
ember cosmos
spinning it isnt really a problem
now tanks chasing down people with the tank buster would be
vernal breach
im probably gonna raise up the topic with me static
not because im looking after the well-being of my melee
but for my own sake
god the smooth brain OT and melee down there, cant be trusted to adjust properly
gotta do this shit meself
lilac pivot
Im currently doing HoH 1-100 for the first time. Should I only use Odin for the 90 boss?
verbal oak
Nah, use it if you’re full and find another Odin
lilac pivot
Wouldnt it be best to use ifrit / garuda / titan instead if i have those
verbal oak
Ye
viscid gust
I think for any of those tank/dps swaps for the E/W double fire pattern always involves the two people always swapping colors with each hit, because the original problem was that everyone but healers could just not swap on 2nd hit leaving north (red) empty for 2nd hit.
slender lichen
does anyone have a picture for limit cut on p2s
slender lichen
i was hoping for a more obviously colored one but i got one
pallid gorge
you dont need to know colour btw . just check tether or no tether
dull radish
sometimes tether can be hard to see for some people, compared to the color/shape of the dots
slender lichen
im used to seeing color first
dull radish
especially if you're melee and have a DRG that pops tether right before the mechanic goes out
slender lichen
i actually didnt even know the numbers had different shapes until someone pointed it out lmao
pallid gorge
ye there are 3 different visual indicators .. which is nice to give people options to process but my PF exp says that can confuse people too
viscid siren
I finally fucking beat p1s today. One of the dps who joined the pf said that we should do tank dmg down (even though I explicitly stated joonbob), I told him to suck it up and not flex, and guess what, we beat it when he was halfway through enrage. With that done I'm never doing current tiers in pf again because that was fucking miserable
slender lichen
the first 2 floors in pf arent that bad if you just dont join parties that are holding you back
like if you understand a mechanic and have gotten to it multiple times but the pf cant do it just join a pf that's progging the next mech
viscid siren
like if you understand a mechanic and have gotten to it multiple times but the p...
That's the secret cap. All enrage prog groups are intemp prog groups
slender lichen
yeah good luck with enrage groups
i beat p2s in a day with pf and half of that day was just joining enrage parties
viscid siren
It was such a catch 22. If I made my own pf it'd take an hour to fill with dipshits who cant read, if I joined another pf it was "whoops, all intemp"
stable basin
the secret to clearing in pf is making any chest clear runs so ppl who cleared the tier and want content can come bonk the boss with their i605 weapons
vernal breach
i'll try that on monday
slender lichen
but what if i want the chests
viscid siren
that's the worst part, I didn't even get the damn chest
slender lichen
wait for next week
viscid siren
honestly tho I'm just glad to have been able to clear it at all because this is my first current savage tier and Im hoping at least 1 clear will improve my chance of joining a static (even though it was grey but we don't have to talk about that)
slender lichen
are you a dps
slender lichen
oof
stable basin
but what if i want the chests
Once you clear you can join [duty complete] parties in later weeks for chests
slender lichen
i mean as long as you can do mechanics consistently you can get away with a gray parse
viscid siren
yeah that was kind of a wakeup call. Sometime this week I'm definitely hitting the dummy, and even swallow the pill and check out the balance
viscid siren
I completely forgot materia was a thing holy shit
as for my rotation I didn't look up anything specific I just went from FoF to req and tried my best to always be casting
slender lichen
yeah thatll be why you gray parsed
cant do savage content without doing your rotation or having melds
i mean you can if you want your entire party to suffer
and get stuck on dps checks
and you should be capping your tomes every week to buy bis
viscid siren
I have been doing that. Rn Im in 580, I got shield and chest, and the rest is uncapped tomestones
vernal breach
p3s pf strats are weird yo
like why are the melees north east and west..
what happened to positionals
stable basin
ppl can't handle melee group north while also being south clock spots I guess
though idk why you need clock spots in that fight
vernal breach
are you foqin kidding me
like... the darkfire partners
i think clock spots would be handy for that just so people can just rotate clockwise to where they need to partner with
yknow.. like e9s
stable basin
ah right, darkfire partners
frank quiver
what happened to positionals
Isn’t it because the boss is turned around?
vernal breach
and why the fuck is it turned around
frank quiver
The boss always turns around during the fire cross. Not sure why.
vernal breach
you pull that thing oracle of darkness style and drag it northwards before darkfire
and boom, its facing true north
and everything is right in the world
frank quiver
Oh wait, you’re talking about Darkfire? Didn’t realize PF wanted melee to be NE/NW for that.
frank quiver
Our static has them SE/SW. 
vernal breach
how logical
my statics in an odd spot where i was the MT
but now im OT
but we couldnt be arsed to change partners
so once again.. ive got to run NE
between you and me, i was the better MT
we also pull it oracle of darkness style
but the party iwas in just pulled it far north
like.. why bro
why
literally everybody has run further to begin whacking the boss
for fuck sake
the aether PF is known for all the nonsensical strats
any prospective raiders should honestly consider a different DC .__ .
frank quiver
Pulling far north or far south is for fireplume melee uptime, IIRC.
sinful brook
just pop sprint prepull
not like you use that anyways
and you're pld idk why you're whinging when your first gcd is a ranged cast
sinful brook
i did that too for day one of pf
people were mega confused
during fireplume
because relative north is apparently hard
vernal breach
i'll stipulate an additional requirement for joining parties
"must have cleared eden or atleast seen the fucking thing"
sinful brook
i can shift my entire rotation one gcd forward if i run up though so i don't mind
slender lichen
thats what i was saying lmao
vernal breach
eden has all the relative north nonsense
sinful brook
but i guess its denotes the rotation plume safe spots?
vernal breach
hnng
slender lichen
ive seen the ilya vid where his static puts them in a clock and it makes things much simpler for darkened fire and stuff
sinful brook
i think all the markers in the center is a lot of clutter though
slender lichen
at least they each have a purpose unlike the corner things
warm mesa
Is it faster to trust 85 dungeon over 87 dungeon for leveling alts?
grand mesa
you only rly need cardinal markers for darkfire
game alr gives you squares to stand on lol
undone berry
is there any group/server in discord I can join to find people to play with for savage raids?
grand mesa
Majority of us here just use PF
undone berry
Ooh I see
steep falcon
upper solar
what's wrong with that opener? ... asking for my rdm friend, ofc
torn kindle
Super late Manafication/embolden
In a general opener, you use Manafication and Embolden after the 4th GCD
Not the 14th
That’s like 30 seconds into the fight
upper solar
i see, i just did not think that holding cooldowns for 20 extra seconds would make that much of a difference
torn kindle
20 seconds is long enough to make you miss a majority of party damage buffs used in most job’s openers, which is a lot of lost damage
And this is for the entire encounter, not just the opener, as your cooldown is misaligned from everyone else’s
upper solar
that makes much more sense 😄
torn kindle
And you might also lose a whole use of Manafication/Embolden in the encounter depending on forced downtime and fight length
wheat marsh
Does RDM's changes help it line up its burst and buffs better than the old 80/80 now?