fresh for two
#endgame-lounge
versed vapor
stable basin
Hard to say hours exactly
Trying to think
Of the group I did semi recently with 2 cleared and 6 from fresh to early ultima exp
That was probably somewhere around 15~30 hours or sth
stable basin
yea don't take that as gospel
stable basin
But it's definitely a lot shorter than it used to be
foggy latch
for average prog uwu is fast
its basically step up savage
tea and ucob easily double uwu prog hours
if not more
foggy latch
didnt u clear tea recently? you should have some idea of how long ultimate prog takes
quaint umbra
youtube doesn have anything usefull so is there anywhere to check a Delubrum Reginae Savage guide ?
quaint umbra
thanks 😄
warped grail
Hey so I’m looking for the best dps load out for samurai? I can’t rly do savage eden just yet so that’s off the table but other than that most gear is available to me
versed vapor
didnt u clear tea recently? you should have some idea of how long ultimate prog ...
ye but I've never done UWU and nor UCOB to completion
my assumption was TEA took the fucking longest
(also yknow my parses are still grey and im still pepega but somehow managed)
torn kindle
Hey so I’m looking for the best dps load out for samurai? I can’t rly do savage...
Basically just highest item level gear then, AKA cryptlurker
With the i515 relic probably beating out the cryptlurker weapon
warped grail
Basically just highest item level gear then, AKA cryptlurker
yeahh thats prolly true. the cryptlurker weapon has no crit unfortunately :/
stable nimbus
Emerald will do fine as well, I reckon.
warped grail
tru
quaint umbra
Is there any reason to use ilvl 520-30 besides slightly Higher stats compared to fully melded ilvl 510
torn kindle
Higher primary stats
Which in most cases beat ideal secondary stats
Also more HP/defense
quaint umbra
Gotcha
frozen portal
What hardest mech in tea?
quick verge
wormhole
balmy cypress
Respecting stillness 🙃
foggy latch
mario kart wormhole
tardy tree
for the 3rd step of the lvl 80 relic... better farming potd or delubrum?
stable nimbus
DR has 100% rate but can take up to an hour. PotD is fast but low chance if you do the lower floors, I got like 1 artifact for every 6 PotD clears. I hear going above floor 100 increases chances so that might be worth it.
tardy tree
Sounds fair. Im not so high on potd, so ill stick with dr
green scaffold
So I've never played an MMO and just completed the MSQ and still very new to the game. I'm unsure what to do now though. I really liked doing dungeon content (I've literally unlocked them all), since with the light party it felt like I had more impact vs the 8/24 person stuff. Can anyone suggest what I could be doing now?
daring dome
this is why im depressed
drowsy agate
So I've never played an MMO and just completed the MSQ and still very new to the...
you've heard of savage raiding no?
that's pretty much what this whole channel is about
it's like 80% savage 10% ultimates 10% DR
get your ilevel to a decent number (at least 500, 510 ideally) and go hit up the first savage of this tier, e9s
drowsy agate
also i forgot to add, you should definitely watch a guide before trying e9s
or even consider doing emerald EX first, it's an easier fight and a good primer to savage
undone tide
this is why im depressed
Me too :(
foggy latch
we speedkilling uwu now?
subtle bone
.
maiden coral
I’ve been rolling this question around in my head. What is the best in slot weapon for all classes? Is it emerald or relic?
I’ve heard from its emerald and on another I’ve heard it’s relic
torn kindle
Between only those two, always relic
maiden coral
Including the savage weapons?
torn kindle
In terms of actual BiS, Edenmorn weapon for most jobs
With BLM using augmented Cryptlurker for one BiS set
maiden coral
Will keep that in mind!
drowsy agate
relic's not even casual bis though
the 520 cryptlurker weapon for 1000 revelation is going to outperform most relics i stand corrected
many savage raiders will opt not to buy the cryptlurker weapon though
since that's 3 weeks of revelation that could be spent on a 2nd class or on other gear, and they plan on clearing e12s anyway
quick verge
not really
undone tide
Outperform most relics?
quick verge
relics stat spreads are absurd
undone tide
Have you seen the stats on most crypt weapons?
quick verge
they’ll outperform most, if not all unaugmented tome weapons
undone tide
And only 2 materia slots?
All healers I think have DET PIE and tanks get DET TEN
Fucking garbage stats
Some of them have good stats but most are pretty ok-ish
sinful brook
the relics are custom at 515
heady widget
yooo
stable basin
How do you guys find recruitment for DR Savage?
Are there dedicated discords for it?
quick verge
there are yeah, not sure what the one in your region is though
undone tide
You might want to clear the current tier first
Because I highly doubt you're being let in if you haven't
dull radish
you absolutely can be, especially if you have experience outside of current tier
stable basin
^
quick verge
i think a lot of groups just want bodies, so if you aren't functionally a corpse then you should be fine
stable basin
Yeah I'm in Chaos, only done E9S but I've done all ultimates.
Gear isn't great as I don't play as much as I used to but just wanted to try it for the mount.
foggy latch
stable basin
Thanks for the info. If on Chaos, do you know where to go to find people?
foggy latch
if u wanna join
stable basin
Ah, brilliant. Thanks.
foggy latch
this is the group i cleared with
note u may not get slot for sometime
cause there are like 60 ppl before you need clears
and they swap 11 slots per raid day
so 6-7 raid days
stable basin
That's fine 🙂 I don't mind waiting, I just didn't even know where to begin to find a group.
Wow.
foggy latch
before u get picked
stable basin
That's decent.
Yeah, that's not a problem at all. Gives me plenty of time to try and clear this tier and get better gear
Thanks for the info, really appreciate it.
foggy latch
np
if u get picked
make sure to read required actions
and adjust to the group you getting put on
finite plank
how do multiple nins in DRS work?
foggy latch
as long u dont fuck up the lost action needed to not wipe the group
u should be clearing in 1 session
u either follow your rot
or adjust to other ninjas
to give ppl full TA uptime
dps check is very lenient that it almost doesnt matter
frozen portal
what hardest mech in ucob?
undone tide
it probably depends on who you ask
I haven't done it yet personally
I don't hear a lot of people point out specific mechs as hard but they rather say that all of the mechs are fairly hard
If your ping and tanks are shit exaflares might be hard
foggy latch
i say adds phase
dull radish
yeah, it's a bit hard to point out one specific mechanic by itself that's the "hardest" in ucob, more a phase-by-phase basis
for difficulty itself, I'd probably agree with adds phase. For getting through the fight, getting consistent with nael was probably a bit harder as a group. But it depends on the group, really
golden is across the board probably the easiest though, even with bad ping it's not like exaflares are super tight or hard unless you force a 2-1
nova socket
Tenstrike is the hardest mechanic by far imo
dull radish
I thought that going in, but we had surprisingly few issues with it honestly
was one of the easier, most consistent things for us
quick verge
in my experience, i found a lot of people couldn't count to 4 during heavensfall
and it's hard to see in adds
frozen portal
wdym hard to see? nael twin blocking screen?
subtle bone
Seen the most wipes occur from heavensfall, followed by tenstrike
nova socket
We almost never had problems with heavensfall
it's just group specific I guess
While on tenstrike you have multiple people adjusting to rng while there's a lot of dmg
subtle bone
Idk, i have 40+ clears with many diff statics and pugs and if there are deaths in tenstrike which always come from earthshakers, its very recoverable compared to needing tank lb3 for failed heavensfall towers
Id say the rng of towers spawn is harder than adjusting to tenstrike hatches as well but thats just my opinion (and i always send myself to L4)
nova socket
Using tank lb on heavensfall isn't hard either though
subtle bone
I think of it this way, if you need to tank lb3 preemptively or on reaction due to a bad player that cant do heavensfall, chances are they will wipe the group on normal grand octet, where as in tenstrike you have 20% chance to get no mechs and only do earthshakers where you can just get ressed if you fk up
foggy latch
from mechs stand point
i say grand octet is hardest
assuming no one calling it out
cause the caller can make it from being hard
to complete joke
heady widget
so before i can do the 48 man raid i gotta do the southern front duty first?
foggy latch
yes
undone tide
delicate mulch
sorry I thought it was the general chat
ashen sable
The Ala Mhigan Anthem is a bunch of anthems put together, including star spangled banner, stand up stand up for jesus, and one other I can't put my tongue on
lyric summit
sweet fern
what's usually the success rate of e10s opti pf parties with uptime dogs
i saw a vid of the strat and it looks extremely risky lol
drowsy agate
it's not risky if the sch knows what to do
having a war/pld/ast will help
but sch alone should be able to make big enough shields for uptime dogs
in addition to mitigation from the rest of the party
burnt fjord
Anyone able to help me with the Second Chain of Bahumut Turn 4?
subtle bone
@sweet fern https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586591861834252298/812001740849152071/Uptime_Doggos.png?width=1346&height=676 id say 80% success rate given everyone understands orbs
kind schooner
always take a lost heal into delubrum... our party had no healer so eventually we would die to raidwide aoes lol
or just leave before one of the other parties pulls, thats prob a better idea
sweet fern
<@234141546931290112> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/58659186183425229...
oo nice ok gonna study this diagram first then lol
there was one open but didnt want to go in cause scared of messing up
sonic socket
Is upgrading the relic weapon even worth it? You can upgrade it to a max of ilvl 500 but you can easily get a weapon for ilvl 510
serene lotus
You can get the relic to i515, actually, at which point it is better than a lot of un-augmented tome weapons (i520) since a lot of them have garbage substats
Still won't be better than E12S weapon, though
sonic socket
hmmm im still fairly new, Idk what an E12S is haha
serene lotus
The last fight in the current 8-man raid tier, savage difficulty
sonic socket
ah i see
charred robin
I'm just unlocking shadowbringers msq's. Whats the cap on gear score?
steady pebble
max ilv is 530 with 535 for weapon
drowsy agate
Anyone able to help me with the Second Chain of Bahumut Turn 4?
not endgame content, also try #494379215420915712
little sonnet
anyone have three people for POTD want to unlock floors 101-200.
stable nimbus
When is the best time to use Feint in e11s? (is there a list of best mitigation usage?)
quick verge
feint the elemental breaks, the initial hit is physical
can also feint autos
and the first action of cycles, the elemental breaks, also are physical
otherwise there's nothing else to feint
stable nimbus
Hmm okay
dull radish
Yeah just the protean
That's the only physical part of it, the following bits are magic
thorn plaza
What's a good way for a WHM to optimally heal during 11S cycles?
steep falcon
In e12s. It is normal for BLM to have their Leylines back at every Relativity? I delay them for after Relativity. 
JP Opener btw
dull radish
you'll want to prepull LL
second use you get all heading into basic (might lose a tiny bit if you have blizzard and you're doing a strat where you bait first laser as blizzard), third is after you move mid for single apoc, fourth is after you move mid for double apoc, next is for reopener after advanced, last is on terminal if you get to that use
dull radish
yeah mod JP works. Honestly though even if you're lower sps and are doing no B4, you'd still want to prepull LL, otherwise that second use ends up being gross like you're noticed. Same with P1 (and also with 11), prepull LL is the way to go
undone tide
How long did it take you guys to find an ultimate static? Also what logs would you guys expect
I have weapon now so I basically have free blue/purple parses now
dull radish
mm my ultimate static has always been my regular static, which I can't really quantify a time that it took me to join and there's more of a story behind it than anything, but I was pretty known in the raid community on my server so I generally was never static-less very long, just performed decently well and did a lot of networking to know many other raiders (and be known by them).
Realistically when looking at recruiting for a static, particularly for ultimate, it's more consistency/reliability and how well you mesh with the rest of the group, in a variety of ways. Numbers of course aren't completely irrelevant but they're not necessarily the most important thing
undone tide
I'm in a couple recruitment servers already
I know that people generally like to grade people by logs when it comes to recruitment so I think I might need to put in a little more work before going on the search
i'm purple on 9, high blue on 10, blue on 11, and green on both e12s phases atm
dull radish
honestly networking and putting yourself out there is more important than focusing on getting good logs before doing that
especially if the goal is a static for ultimate. The dps checks aren't super tight or anything like that, especially if you're looking at doing the SB ones
undone tide
I'm looking at ucob first
but I want to do 70 ults on GNB despite being a PLD main
Because PLD at 70 
dull radish
GNB is real strong for SB ultimates in particular, too
not that that's particularly needed or anything though haha
undone tide
Yeah that's what I was thinking
dull radish
dps checks are basically never an issue in ucob unless you have a lot of deaths, particularly early on for golden
just kill stuff super early/overkill blue bahamut so so hard
undone tide
This is the first tier I've actually beaten tho not totally sure if I want to go straight into ultimate
dull radish
I mean what else are you gonna do for the rest of the expansion?
quick verge
😬
sinful brook
yah you'll go for pink median
thats how many clears you need to offset whatever it is currently
undone tide
this is my median 
olive hearth
gj
subtle bone
yayy grats
stable basin
undone tide
foggy latch
@undone tide u will have easy time getting in ultimate statics with purple logs min
also as rika said
ultimates is all about hot consistent you are at stuff
along with how good you are with others
do they like you
do they hate the moment they play with you etc
full spruce
fates in gyr abania drop memories of the dying correct? i've done fates in the lochs for 30 minutes and haven't gotten a single memory
torn kindle
Yes.
foggy latch
tfw your healer propose this strat for e9s speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWiKytE-SJA
4 stacks cloud
torn kindle
Sometimes you don’t end trash pulls or enter intermissions as ice, so you need to transpose into it in order to use Umbral soul
quick verge
it's an optimization technique
idk the specifics
would have to ask like rika or another blm main
stable basin
- If you enter downtime on fire you have to transpose to ice to use umbral.soul so u dont drop eno + build up ur heart stacks
- theres a cursed blm optimisation rotation that requires lucid and transpose
stable basin
fair enough, wanted to cover both just in case
stable basin
about to fight this rred choco
last words before disaster
full spruce
i tried the red chocobo one time and never did it again haha
olive hearth
the lucid/transpose thing is all about skipping having to use B3 lmao
need a few procs to get the ticks in, but its a minor dps increase
stable basin
I wanna start doing endgame stuff like savages and eventually ultimates but I'm wondering about my progression into those things
I've got WAR, SCH, and SMN level 80 but only SCH has iLvl over 500 rn
Wanna play more WAR than anything else though so is there like a bis I should seek out
undone tide
!faq warbis
storm frostBOT
stable basin
Nice, thanks
stable basin
Yeah I have Exarchic gear for SCH but that's all
wheat marsh
so there isn't any other use for gold bozja coins other than the gear right now?
foggy latch
yes
foggy latch
poggies 2nd fastest clear in EU even though its a meme
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/100463940835762176/815691628354076756/IMG_20210228_232046.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/100463940835762176/815691532442271794/IMG_20210301_000556.png
unkempt cypress
for the step in resistance weapon quest where u have to run 18 raids of mhach and ivalice, do you have to be on the job that accepted the quest to get the shards?
torn kindle
@unkempt cypress Any job works
unkempt cypress
nice, thank you
bright prawn
!faq smnbis
quick verge
-> #kupo-bot-spam
heady widget
yo
old tiger
Is there any info on the new PvP mode coming in Endwalker? Sounds like it may be an “arena” type mode?
austere ether
when does "endgame" start in ffxiv? 80?
languid bramble
Yes
austere ether
so just nerd quests until then?
austere ether
even levequests?
austere ether
So do I need to do the instance ones to unlock them?
Should I level crafting jobs for gear?
How much gil is normal to have at 80?
sinful brook
levequests aren't super worth for combat jobs
the exp and gil rewarded isn't really anything to write home about
however it is fantastic on gatherers/crafters
you'll never need to level those jobs if you don't want to though
and gil amount is variable depending on how you spend it
but if you tunnel to the end of msq directly with minimal expenses you could have a decent couple mil on your hands
sinful brook
carry around as much as you want
treat it like a high score number more than anythign since there's not much to buy with it
i'm not terribly wealthy myself
only got lucky on some rare sells
austere ether
alright, and this crafting system... Can I syntizise more than one item at a time?
torn kindle
Generally no.
If a craft produce multiple items it will be listed as such when you look at the crafting info of it on the tooltip
Which mainly applies to Alchemist and Culinarian
reef raptor
Probably not endgame but does anyone have any resources and how-to kind of stuff for BLU?
quick verge
Probably not endgame but does anyone have any resources and how-to kind of stuff...
The blue mage channel in the balance (invite link in the pins) has links to several blue mage resources that you can look through
reef raptor
Oh okie, thank you very muchie.
heady widget
hi
fading hare
I got a very very important question that was debated on a boz instance, is Castrum considered end game content?
quick verge
yeah
verbal oak
I got a very very important question that was debated on a boz instance, is Cast...
yeah i'd say so
fading hare
Not talking about DR, just regular castrum
verbal oak
both are
upbeat burrow
is it worth sacrificing 390 crit by using augmented cryptlurker weapon for mch?
dull radish
390 crit compared to what? You're never in a place to outright lose secondary stats, other stats still have value that you gain in place. Here's weapon recommendation priority for MCH posted over on the balance:
upbeat burrow
ooo alright, thanks for the list~
stable basin
hey quick question
im level 55 rn and im doing pre-heavensward quest
any dungeon/raid/stuff i can do to progress faster to 60+ in the meantime?
torn kindle
Not really, besides making sure to do your daily Leveling, Main Scenario, and Alliance Raid roulettes every day
heady widget
question
where in the hell do i exchange bozja silver coins at
or the regular bozja coins
olive hearth
Normal Bozja coins from cll can be traded in BSF
Silver/Gold coins in a vendor near the docks in gangos
heady widget
ive tried looking for vendor for silver and i cant find it
only the gold
nvm found it lool4
potent spire
i hope the fingers look finger-like in this expansion
hollow jackal
between Exarch overmeld gear and Edenmorn gear which is better?
quick verge
edenmorn
i510 vs i530 is a very steep gap to overcome in terms of the stats it gives
hollow jackal
ah I see ty 4 the info
drowsy agate
in some specific sets, they opt for a pentamelded slot over an i530
but that's only healers iirc for a max damage set
quick verge
some healer sets would opt for a pentamelded i510 ring over the tome one cause the substats on the tome ring really suck
hollow jackal
ah and does any1 knows end walker drop when?
quick verge
fall this year
hollow jackal
June?
quick verge
autumn
hollow jackal
ah ok
sinful brook
I guess it should be specified autumn in the northern hemisphere
quick verge
fall/autumn 2021 (Wed, Sep 22, 2021 – Tue, Dec 21, 2021) in the northern hemisphere of the planet earth
steady pebble
novemeber tbh would be really late
sinful brook
Just following the previous release schedule and shoving it 2 months back because of covid delay would result in a September release
stable basin
December is winter 🧍♂️
steady pebble
winter solstice is dec 21
stable basin
Is there a list of what each of the colours are in terms of ranking for your parse on fflogs?
steady pebble
steady pebble
pretty sure there is no red color for ranking
foggy latch
there is no red
foggy latch
show me the log
steady pebble
screenshot?
drowsy agate
red usually refers to a parse that may have an exploit iirc
foggy latch
yes
drowsy agate
and if the exploit is patched or is made public that it's illegal then the log is removed
stable basin
oh really lol
foggy latch
is why i wanna see it
stable basin
I was just tanking normally
foggy latch
where the red?
stable basin
ahhh it's the class colour lol
steady pebble
yeah lol
foggy latch
has to be a clear
drowsy agate
stable basin
There's no color on some fights
drowsy agate
like this
foggy latch
its a wipe 47 secs
drowsy agate
this is a clear for e9s, you can see their parse color on the far left as a number
stable basin
they need to be fights that have rankings
foggy latch
also hades is old content
foggy latch
no longer rankable iirc
drowsy agate
yeah no one's parsing hades
stable basin
yeah I was just doing it for xivanalysis
drowsy agate
if you wanted to parse normal, you can try on e9-e12 normal
well if the fight ended in 47 seconds you aren't going to get an accurate parse anyway
stable basin
yeah I guess act is breaking up the fight too early or something
since there's trash to fight as part of it
looks like just regular hades
drowsy agate
i would suggest doing parses like that on normal e9-e12 if at all
stable basin
okay cool
stable basin
haha
foggy latch
foggy latch
oh nvm
foggy latch
i just noticed
stable basin
ohh I forgot to set that "Number of seconds to wait after the last combat action to begin a new encounter" setting properly, it was still on 6 seconds
that's probably why it's screwy
drowsy agate
that'll fuck it up
nova socket
Just don't be a low median gamer
quick verge
even if the encounter resets frequently, it can still be stitched together when you upload it to fflogs
true grail
How does one go about finding a prog group for endgame stuff?
I wanted to try and find a group for TEA. I've only ever done E5-7 prog and that was with with a group led by an FC member with people they knew
quick verge
there's a few places where you can look for groups for endgame content
drowsy agate
you may want to consider clearing a tier before looking at ultimate prog
that's just my suggestion
lots of ultimate prog teams require something like logs or clears to show you're a skilled player
quick verge
a few to mention are things like the balance's recruitment channels
https://discordapp.com/invite/mMVbkZx this server
r/ffxivrecruitment
advertising in pf
making connections with people around the data center
true grail
lots of ultimate prog teams require something like logs or clears to show you're...
Thanks! That makes sense
drowsy agate
ultimate's the hardest content in the game, so it's reasonable to expect a cleared savage tier
especially if you're looking to actually get anywhere with an ultimate prog team
many people prog these fights for literally months
finite plank
for DR dps, duelist, lost font of power and banner of honored sacrifice is the standard go to?
manic path
Is it worth it to wear the Augmented Bozjan set in deli instead 530 gear from savage? I see it gives a haste boost when worn, but is it worth it?
verbal oak
deli synchs you down to 430 still so yes
manic path
Ahh okay, tysm
torn kindle
The haste bonus is really only relevant as tanks and BLM due to them wanting specific GCDs for their rotation that can be lower than what the default sync gives you.
The rest of the jobs don’t really benefit as much from it.
dull radish
hmm, I mean it's still relevant and worthwhile on other jobs
inland ore
It's a dps increase on every job.
dull radish
with regular gear, outside of bozja, for most jobs you tend to avoid sks/sps since you sacrifice other, better substats for it
but for bozja, it's literally just free
on top of the other substats you get
torn kindle
🤔
stable basin
we did it
steady pebble
gratz cats \o/
undone tide
GZ
night kernel
I made a list of stuff you do if you are going to get all the resistance weapons
- U need to get 68 Scalepowders (17,000 poetics)
- 340 of each memory, that's 1,020 HW fates
- 102 runs of leveling roulettes or HW dungeons
- 255 runs of a Crystal tower raid
- 18 Shadows of Marach raids or Gyr fates (only once)
- 18 Orthrad fates or Ivalice raids (only once)
- (5 if it's not your first) Resistance weapon255 POTD runs or Delubrum Reginae runs
night kernel
It was guaranteed for me, as it was my first resistance weapon
sinful brook
One time step fates are rng
Its irrelevant if its your first weapon or not
Its only guaranteed from the alliance raids
stable basin
potd not guaranteed either
night kernel
Yeah
It's faster
But not the most efficient
Aperently after floor 150, it's granted
sinful brook
Thats not confirmed data
undone tide
The 515 relic quest needs a nerf tbh
dusty jungle
@night kernel u need to also factor in the 340 of each memory step suppose to be nerfed in 5.5 so next month or month after so better to do other steps instead using 1 char on each relic quest so can collect them continuosly
verbal oak
i hope it gets a nerf, rn a 520 weapon is like 3 hours over 7 weeks, and in 5.5 it can get upgraded easily
stable nimbus
For step 4 you can also do Castrum 3 times per weapon
stable basin
ironically the 515 relics are pretty attractive to people with 535 weapons because they're worth a few hundred dps in ultimates
my uwu sam set gains like 300 dps from relic
actually kinda busted
finite plank
is it cause they don't use materia?
stable basin
It's because you can cap stats off at that ilvl's sync (or slightly lower if you don't gain another tier by going all the way for real minmaxing) and then use the stat you saved there on another stat
A genji weapon has 280/196 substats with another +80 from melds but you can go 280/280/280/280 on a relic for ucob
though idk why I mentioned genji weapons when you can just sync one for 280/280
so you gain 560 substats in that case, which are gonna be in the two worst ones because you'd pick the other two with your synced weapon, but 560 is still a truckload of substat
heady widget
question if some of my gear is maxed out at crit before being melded, should i only just meld quickarm materia or should others in it as well?
rapid sapphire
Depends on the meld priority (usually direct unless going for a specific gcd with skill speed)
hushed dust
Hey guys, just wanted to ask if there’s a resource that shows all of the “endgame” for each expansion. I just finished heavensward, but my friend is still going through ARR and I told him we’ll start the big stuff after gets level 50. But idk what the “big stuff” is after ARR and HW. All I know is the coils of bahamut after ARR
I wanna do the cool stuff each expansion gives before I go onto stormblood so I don’t become too op I guess
stable basin
@hushed dust this could be useful: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Content_Unlock
stable basin
does anyone have a sheet of like, everyone's loadouts for DRS
i saw it somewhere but dont remember where
nvm found it
heady widget
Depends on the meld priority (usually direct unless going for a specific gcd wit...
ok
heady widget
what should a mnks skill speed be at rn
supple sail
balance says 1.96 GCD
supple sail
mouse over a weaponskill's tooltip.
The required speed for a 1.96 GCD is between 761-913.
heady widget
in the characters menu?
supple sail
on your hotbar
heady widget
ok
heady widget
ohhhh, im stupid lool
supple sail
is the GCD
heady widget
ok so im at 1.93
supple sail
wow I typoed twice
the GCD you want is 1.96 not 1.94
the required speed of 761-913 is still accurate
supple sail
well im still good then
no, having a lower GCD than the recommended is not desirable
you want 1.96 GCD
not higher, not lower
you're gonna wanna lose some skill speed.
heady widget
ohhhh
itss been awhile since ive tried getting raid ready
came back about 2 weeks ago after a 6 month hiatus
so ive been playing catchup
why 1.96 specifically?
supple sail
generally, optimal GCD tiers are selected to ensure the GCD will align with buffs coming off cooldown later in the fight.
jade zodiac
In E12s is the Dwayne Junction Titan (atleast thats the name on salted) the most commonly runned Titan strat in PF or is there a more popular one?
quick verge
the dwayne strat is the most popular one from what i know
stable basin
it's all dwayne in primal for sure
jade zodiac
Thanks
drowsy agate
isn't that the same thing or similar to dark shadow?
dull radish
dark shadow is notorious for taking existing strats and adjusting them slightly to toss his name on it
I think he just flipped which side tank/healer vs dps go to, for that one
jade zodiac
Is there any rule in pf for the blue marked ones in Part 2 of the Titan phase?
quick verge
go to the spot you're closest to
jade zodiac
Alright, so its gonna be a mess. Thank you^^
quick verge
maybe if everyone has poor depth perception
night kernel
How do u get Delebrum savage?
torn kindle
Beat normal mode at least once, get rank 15 in the bozjan southern front + 700k Mettle and talk to someone around x6.6, y5.1 in Gangos
wheat marsh
pretty much its the cap of mettle currently (and i hope for final patch update of bozja)
wheat marsh
is the adds/DPS phase in E12N triggered by time or damage? Both?
quick verge
it’s triggered by damage, not sure if there’s a max phase length though
undone tide
you can tell when it happens by when you use your burst
If you just started going into your burst phase the boss will phase
rapid sapphire
tea time phase in e12n is a hp push. there's a backup time based condition if dps is slow
night kernel
What's the best way to get Vexed and Haunted memories?
wheat marsh
i added ridorana and weeping city to try to help queue times but they rarely popped
next kestrel
I dont understand something. Why is it so bloody hard to get into any content that is EX or higher via party finder if you haven't completed said content. Is it just a Aether issue, or is it just how it is in FF14?
fossil dew
I dont understand something. Why is it so bloody hard to get into any content th...
It's a bit of a curve. New fights usually have plenty of progression parties in PF since they're you know... new.
Content that is still relatively new (i.e. semi difficult) but has been around for awhile wont have a lot of prog parties. After all if you've cleared the fight 8 months ago and want to farm a mount you wouldn't really want to spend two hours teaching someone who's never seen it before would you?
And then older content gets made completely trivial by gear and no one cares anymore so they'll take anyone willing to show up
next kestrel
rip Titan unreal
worldly shale
From my experience I've never had issues with Aether's PF when it comes to EX and above content
night kernel
What's the best places to do the StB fates for memories?
A friend of mine said Loches, and Azem Steepe
sinful brook
those are popular options
since you get synced to 70 for most of the fates instead
which does make it so you do have higher ilvl/damage
night kernel
I tried doing some in north Yaxia, that's the highest leveled area in Orthrad, but I got like, 3 fates and nothing.
But Azim steppe had more fates closer together.
sinful brook
steppe isn't as sparse on fates but about half of them sync you to 70 as well
night kernel
So the two I mentioned are the best areas for fates
sinful brook
yes lochs and steppe are fine
night kernel
Ok
thorn plaza
what are the standard pf strats for titan unreal
Cause I'm finally gonna try to get a clear
torn kindle
Most people either kill the south bomb or northwest one for the phase where you need to kill the bombs
And adds are usually dragged to the east side to die there
thorn plaza
alright
drowsy agate
at this point in the tier
is it worth buying upgrade comps with books anymore
we're a month off before the components become virtually free
i think it's probably best to save books for actual gear pieces now, no?
torn kindle
Weapon upgrade will still locked behind savage until like 5.55 or 5.58
So if you’re using a Cryptlurker weapon there’s that
quick verge
if you’re not in a rush to get bis then you can just save books for gear pieces on other jobs
but
it’s not too long until savage gets unlocked and you can freely farm
I’d do whatever gets bis on the job I want fastest
drowsy agate
yeah we're working on e12s p2 now
so maybe ~1 month until our clear assuming we progress at a steady pace that we've been doing
i'm full bis on my main class except for e12s
i'm just buying pieces for off classes now
thorn plaza
Is it just me or does it feel like Titan unreal takes forever
Like by the time we get to the last phase it feels like 20 minutes have passed
wheat marsh
I dont understand something. Why is it so bloody hard to get into any content th...
yeah aether has a lot of people that cant DPS+Mechanic but still try for a clear, so if you don't get in when there are still competent people getting first clears, its rough.
wheat marsh
Is it just me or does it feel like Titan unreal takes forever
i felt the same with shiva unreal
thorn plaza
It's probably just ARR ex fights being incredibly repetitive
next kestrel
At least Titan doesnt have a wipe mechanic after heart so it's just surviving
thorn plaza
He does have a hard enrage but that's like 3 rotations after
thorn plaza
Tbh you'd probably have to work to get to the enrage
next kestrel
I spent 5 hours straight trying to get a clear yesterday since i cant join half the groups due to never clearing it. My head still hurts
...and i may have provoked a rock
sinful brook
it is a tad late into when you could have learned it
next kestrel
Ik the fight, but i just cant get the bloody clear
sinful brook
my FC does weekly runs of it on friday, i'll ping you if i have a spot
next kestrel
Well, wrong one
But yes, thank you
I plan on doing nothing but it till i get the damn clear so here's hoping i don't need it
next kestrel
@sinful brook I got my clear. However, since you offered to help me with this pain, I wish to give you a mil for the kindness. When would you like it?
foggy latch
crit rng lets go dude
quick verge
what happened to your execution ranking !!!
foggy latch
3 stacks
serene lotus
It got executed
foggy latch
speedkill strat
sinful brook
<@!159553445232115712> I got my clear. However, since you offered to help me wit...
no don't worry about it~ grats on the clear hope reclear parties go your way well too
also pay it forward when you have a chance
manic prawn
Going from Drk to Gnb, damn i feel so squish without tbn
drowsy agate
just double checking
is e9s considered a full uptime boss for melee
or close to it
i've only ever healed or played caster on it so I wouldn't know melee uptime
undone tide
happy brambles is garbage
olive hearth
Happy is fine
quick verge
9s is full uptime
if you want a bramble strat that makes everyone happy
just do that one where you stuff 4 brambles in an intercard
undone tide
^
That's rin
Rin and 3/4 are the only actually good brambles strats
Happy and Mith are both garbage although I don't personally have an issue with Mith
stable basin
How is happy garbage
dull radish
it cuts off some lanes of movement. I certainly wouldn't call it garbage though, just can be less preferred
stable basin
Yeah the only issue i can see is movement
But just keep an eye on hoa you move.and it shouldnt be that bad
daring dome
its pretty aids if youre a caster
happy brambles can get in casters way a lot
but theyre not the worst thing ever so who cares
at most youll lose like 6 gcds over the course of a fight to bad rng + brambles being in the way which sucks but whatever
quick verge
yeah but why do that when you can just not
dull radish
like most things, it's still pretty cozy on BLM, just can't do it as mindlessly as if the path was fully clear
daring dome
the world if pf always did the best strats
toxic fulcrum
I only done happy n mith, 3/4 haven’t done yet nor wrap my mind around
viscid walrus
mythic wow raider here... swapping to FFXIV. Anyone have good link to class raid guides. Also was wondering if there were certain classes that were more sought after in raid scene (Tank/ Healer/DPS and specific classes)
sinful brook
!faq meta
storm frostBOT
sinful brook
we have guides pinned in the lounges based on the role type #tank-lounge #healer-lounge #archived-melee-lounge #archived-ranged-lounge #archived-caster-lounge
for leveling you can check out weskalber on youtube shows you how the rotations work at certain level breakpoints as well as breaks down skills for you
inland ore
I don't remember where I got this from, but I could have sworn that I read that while the blue line kb during queen couldn't be kb immuned in DR normal, it could in DR savage. Is this true or am I crazy?
quick verge
not sure
inland ore
I looked through a log and the WAR who used IR during the mechanic didn't get knocked back, so I guess so.
keen mauve
IIRC the only "best job comp" for raids and stuff is one that has at least one of tank, healer, melee, ranged, and caster, for that sweet 5% bonus.
drowsy agate
i mean, if we're talking "comps"
the standard one is just two tanks, two healers, two melee DPS, two ranged DPS
people generally avoid doubling up on one class because it reduces how much limit burst gauge you generate
and then certain classes prefer specific roles, i.e. paladin prefers being offtank
that's not to say they can't maintank
you can also run comps with 3 or even 4 ranged if you want, as long as one or two of the ranged know to "fake melee" for the sake of certain mechanics
you would really want to avoid running more than 2 melee DPS
god forbid making melee "fake ranged"
then you can go as far as looking for optimization comps
like, red mages optimally want three physical DPS (two melee and a physical ranged) for their raid buff
which is really not necessary but if you're chasing that top 1% optimization
unkempt cypress
How does floating work for adv rel? Do you just look at the debuffs of the other dps in your light party and if they are the same, switch?
finite plank
floating?
unkempt cypress
Dps sometimes has to switch light parties to spread double aero across each light party, right?
dull radish
correct
you generally have one person in each group designated to float
so if you double up, they just swap
but yeah, you just look at the other dps in your group and if you both have double aero or both have eye, gotta float
unkempt cypress
I see, thank you
drowsy agate
floating?
floating in savage raiding refers to when you assign light parties/predetermined positions
but players in the positions have a mechanic that requires the position to be split for whatever reason
so the "floating" player keeps an eye out for whether or not they need to swap to another position or with another player
dull radish
hmm, well it's not specifically for light parties
drowsy agate
for any mechanic that requires a swap
dull radish
it's just a general term for "this person might have to fill in for this other person based on a mechanic"
drowsy agate
based on predetermined possibilities
dull radish
sometimes you have multiple people floating, or swapping, sometimes just the one
drowsy agate
fine i'll fix my shit for your semantics
finite plank
floating's a foreign term to me
that description you gave me
adjust should be enough to give an idea of what it means
wait
why is there a separate term to describe light parti- ah fuck it
im gonna misunderstand more if i read it
dull radish
it's really a rather simple thing
adjust is pretty close but float is very specifically just regarding positioning
so it can be kinda nice to use it as a descriptor instead of just "adjust"
drowsy agate
in the example above
there's a mechanic in e12s p2 that you set light parties for
except these light parties might require some players to swap from 1 party to another
you'd call them floaters
last tier, in e7s, there are meteors you need to soak based on color of your debuff, 2 in the front of the arena and 2 in the back
so you would assign melee to the front and ranged to the back
except you can't have two of the same color
so one melee and one range has to float
so if both melee got the same color, one melee gets to cry in the back
dull radish
I very much doubt they misunderstand what is meant by floating
they just didn't know what the term meant/don't see why it would be used over just adjust
finite plank
^
drowsy agate
finite plank
this is the first time I see this term
dull radish
it's just that float is just specific to positioning, whereas adjust can mean for more than just positioning
but it's fine any which way haha
young socket
Think it also depends on how your group tends to handle mechanics. Anchor might be a more familiar term if your group handles mechanics by designating who stays rather than who swaps. You're still making a float, you just might not be calling it that.
dull radish
mm I suppose, though I haven't really heard of anchor used that way, at least for this game. I've only really heard it used in terms of someone being in a spot specifically for a BLM to AM to. Or like back on titan, using LL as an anchor during crumbling down to BtL to depending on pattern
dull radish
yeah that's the more traditional use for "float"
instead of having people swap between groups
foggy latch
cause i do different hatch
dull radish
though both can be considered floating
foggy latch
everytime
storm frostBOT
foggy latch
pastel cobalt
Does anyone know how long e12s door boss is, until enrage? I'm seeing 8:27, but just wanna make sure that is correct
subtle bone
Does anyone know how long e12s door boss is, until enrage? I'm seeing 8:27, but ...
Yes 8:27
pastel cobalt
Perfect, thank you!
sick grail
is here where I can ask a question about castrum?
sinful brook
Which one
sinful brook
Yes
sick grail
oh my god
sinful brook
Even as msq trials/ dungeons
sick grail
I am rank 14 100k points away from rank 15
sick grail
how dodge this it's the thing stopping me from getting a No-Death run on castrum
its very frustrating
sinful brook
Its a cross aoe
serene lotus
The bird jumps to it and does a cross based on how it's currently standing
sinful brook
Be diagonal to him
finite plank
okay
finite plank
do you see how the boss is looking at it before it pounces?
sick grail
yeah
finite plank
go to the intercardinal of the bosses direction
sick grail
ok I am not the smartest what is intercardinal
finite plank
South east, south west
sick grail
okay
finite plank
north east, north west
go to the intercardinal of the boss when it goes to pounce on that spot
boss relative
sick grail
okay
sinful brook
Basically you have to see where the boss is jumping to in relation to the spot its currently in and be diagonal from that
sinful brook
Let's see the video if you have it
sick grail
I need to crop it
let me just do this boss at bozjan
and I'll crop it
I had enough time
ok explain this
I am so confused
finite plank
snapshot
sinful brook
You were there when it snapshotted
sinful brook
You have to be out before it lands completely
pastel cobalt
Dang, the snapshot for that attack is kind of gnarly lol
sinful brook
As far as the game cares you were in and deserved to get hit
Be out before it happens
The invisible aoe marker was there
drowsy agate
this should be common knowledge by the time you are doing late game content but
the animation of the attack itself means jack shit
your location when the server snapshots you is what actually matters
that's why you can walk into AoEs that look like they hit your character when in reality the snapshot caught you outside the AoE
it's the crux of knowing how to greed for uptime
attacks that have a cast bar are really easy to see the snapshot because they usually snapshot where you are right when the cast finishes
sick grail
also I love being forced march into my death
sinful brook
Place yourself better for forced march
sinful brook
No that means you were doing the mechanic incorrect
You're supposed to force march into the number bubbles
sick grail
what the
sinful brook
Unless you don't need them
sick grail
that's some next level maintenence
sinful brook
Its not
sick grail
honestly I thought about doing that but idk if forced march forces march me to left right front or backwards
steady pebble
the debuff tells you which direction you're being forced marched
sick grail
nah just bozjan
foggy latch
the ridorana boss
sick grail
it's the math boss
sick grail
yeh
foggy latch
icon pretty clear
sick grail
where do I put it
foggy latch
face arrow toward side u wanna go to
sick grail
in the center of the screen lol
well yeah but like
I didn't know I had to pay attention to the icon
foggy latch
welcome to raid mechanics
pastel cobalt
I have a similar setup, I put mine just above the hotbars
Buffs on one side, debuffs on the other
foggy latch
where u pay attention to debuffs
sick grail
I see those
finite plank
i dont know if party list would cover up the debuffs with debuffs
sinful brook
party list is everything
finite plank
my debuffs aren't default so I don't know where yours are at
foggy latch
like 24/48 man
sinful brook
i'd resize buffs and debuff and put them in clearly visible areas
charred depot
Is eden normal not included in the raids roulette? I have a quest to clear it and have been in queue for almost 2 hours 😦
serene lotus
All of them are
serene lotus
All you can really do is try around prime time
charred depot
Yeah just seemed weird that all my other queues were instant. I’ll just keep waiting 🙂
wheat marsh
people can also cheese ilev for a roulette that's perceived as easier or with echo for worst case scenarios.
high ether
is there a more consistent way to get past the icicle phase of Junction Shiva in E12S than just going John Fucking Madden
stable basin
Ideally tethers should be going straight through the middle and last-minute adjustments should be running in/out (mostly out) instead of to the sides if you can
but it's still kinda just john madden
vast sentinel
holy shit, this fuckin game triggers me sometimes
pastel cobalt
trim shore
Whatd be the fastest and most time efficient way to cap revs in a day?
im assuming its eden normals and most of the roulettes
subtle marsh
matoya's is an easy dungeon for 50 tomes if you want to braindead something.
trim shore
Yeah im raiding on tuesday but im sitting at abt 700/1000 revs for the crypt wep
i have the ester so i wanna do my raids on reset with it
so ill just do my roulettes and spam matoyas to get there
thanks
subtle marsh
welcome
subtle marsh
no. it's 50.
subtle marsh
100 of each.
sinful brook
Hunt trains are 120 rev in about 20 minutes
wheat marsh
im assuming its eden normals and most of the roulettes
2 days of all roulettes with an 80 will cap you, on top of weekly edens. maybe an extra frontlines or some bozja CEs
thorn plaza
For cycles, as a 520 WHM, should I confession the first cycle, asylum the second, confession the third and save temperance for lightning cycle?
quick verge
For cycles, as a 520 WHM, should I confession the first cycle, asylum the second...
your plenary usage sounds fine, but you don't really need to hold temperance for the lightning cycle
i'd instead work out with your party how you're going to split the mitigation that you have for cycles 2 and 3
since those are the most dangerous anyway
thorn plaza
aight
quick verge
and just use temperance at that determined point
subtle bone
depends which strat you guys are doing
but for split - bj tank will have to bait flamethrower (pass 3) and cc tank usually tank enum mines & position him for gavel stack
subtle bone
its good
quick verge
outside of the obvious padding
having mines placed like this is decent for tanks
cause CC tank would kitchen sink cds and explode
quick verge
when find a timeline
but there's like
mines and double rocket punch as traditional tbs
undone tide
Just skip double rocket
quick verge
and you have spikes of damage from BJ tank eating thunder
subtle bone
undone tide
I'm assuming autos in Bruise hurt as much as LL autos?
subtle bone
cc hits harder
undone tide
ok so I'm gonna not take cc
quick verge
you're gonna have to be creative with your cds regardless
both do be kinda chunking you from full hp
undone tide
thorn plaza
Tfw you nearly clear E11S twice but the monk kills you both times
sinful brook
Pog same
thorn plaza
Monks are my natural enemy when it comes to savage raids
When I was progging 9S, a monk kept fucking up phasers and taking tankbusters
They then had the audacity to say
I wasn't healing them enough
subtle cave
<@234969534874910720>
wtf
thorn plaza
I legit think I might be cursed
Every time I get a good 11S run that's on track to clear
Something happens
And the run is ruined
next kestrel
And the accusations begin?
foggy latch
sinful brook
Leos in that post spearya
foggy latch
yes
i saw it
did he quit reddit?
u need to be epic legend to clear the 3 fights in 1 single day am i right?
stable basin
I almost did a reclear of each in one day but tea static trapped :c
wild ether
damn 3 ults cleared in one day?
wild ether
what a gamer
undone tide
goddamn wish I was him
versed vapor
Monks are my natural enemy when it comes to savage raids
Remember monks are either really shit
Or orange/ pinks
thorn plaza
I don't think I've met an orange/pink monk yet
The one that killed me in 11S twice somehow had 535 gear
subtle bone
Kinda cringe ngl but i understand lols
reminds me of this clip https://www.twitch.tv/videos/850318841
sinful brook
is this the vouch for me clip
undone tide
yes
sinful brook
same vouch for me
undone tide
vouch for me I ghosted Confiteor pls wipe
elder dawn
anyone know who the wallet legend from that post is?
quick verge
E11S isn't very hard to greed anyhow
serene lotus
Can you feint or addle the bleed in E11S?
serene lotus
The lightning cones?
serene lotus
Oh, okay
tranquil glen
Hello everyone, I'm new here just have a question in regards to gear....in terms of acquisition and DPS how good is 510 pentameld vs the 520+ raid armors on like a ninja for example?
torn kindle
520 beats it in a majority of cases
The main stat increase is worth more than the extra secondary stats
tranquil glen
thank you very much for your answer
wise quiver
hello! anyone knows the simplest way to upgrade my ilevel 510 weapon as a drk? do I get the emerald one or the crypt one?
torn kindle
Emerald is faster
Crypt requires 3 weeks of tomestones at minimum if you get the token through savage
If you don’t do savage then you also need 7 weeks of E12N for the weapon token material that drops from there
wise quiver
ok thanks!
stable basin
I usually get penta'd crafted beating base tome in that slot
depends on exact substats though
wise quiver
I usually get penta'd crafted beating base tome in that slot
is it better for dk?
charred salmon
Hey so I beat E9S two days ago and was looking to do E10S but its locked? Is it because of the reset? Or am I missing something
charred salmon
Oh ok that's pretty cool. At least I get in duty complete match's now
wheat marsh
wait, it relocks weekly? how do people PF XD
drowsy agate
every week on Tuesday people do reclears
the later in the week you wait, the worst the players get
wheat marsh
can i submit everyone that PFs savage to an asylum? XD i struggle finding groups to clear EX the first time
drowsy agate
it's not that bad on Tuesday