Tbh I wish I still had my sprout >.> until I felt ready to remove it
#endgame-lounge
stable nimbus
I thought you had to do Castrum for the first steps, my bad.
faint tinsel
idk if this should be here in endgame discussion.
I'm still a sprout, still in post-stb. I want to get my hands on ultima totem for the ultima weapon. is this still the case to unlock the raid? (see picture), and compared to the ultima weapon raid, is this raid requirement also hard? (if im gonna start studying about the ultima weapon raid i guess i should do study sigma too?)
sinful brook
o8s can be unsynced
the requirements to unlock that fight has not changed
there are still a couple of mechanics you have to respect
but its not as difficult as it used to be
torn kindle
Only mechanic you really need to know for O8S is the first forsaken
sinful brook
ultimates aren't unsyncable though
faint tinsel
sorry whats o8s?
torn kindle
Sigmascape v4 savage
faint tinsel
can i ask why is it called o8s?
stable basin
Omega raid series
8th floor
Savage
dull radish
you have to do the normal mode for 1-8 (they unlock sequentially), then you can go unlock savage for 5-8 and run only O8S, don't have to clear any others
drowsy agate
to clarify
clearing o8s is the requirement
to enter the raid you want to do
for the ultima totem
the fight that beating o8s unlocks is literally one of the 3 hardest fights in the entire game
many full 8 man experienced raid teams spend months doing 8-10 hour raid weeks on the fight to clear it
drowsy agate
sorry whats o8s?
see above
faint tinsel
ok thanks for the infos <3
drowsy agate
it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say you are one of the best raiders in the game
if you manage to clear ultima weapon ultimate
which is what gives the totem you want
just want to make sure you understand the scale of that fight
lol
high ether
it's going to be a long road to get there but if you have the determination to see it through
ultimate fights aren't just really hard, they are also really long, so something that's really going to burn you out over the long run is having to get back to the part that you wiped to last time
drowsy agate
that and getting 7 other people who can stay together for the whole multi-month process
urban temple
Uwu is more manageable than ucob or tea. It's a good bench mark for 'Can I tackle the hardest content at my current skill level'
faint tinsel
ye i can understand that. to be fair, I want to experience it, and not as to finish it as soon as i can. hence why I want to study it and use it as my future goal for now and enjoy doing it. since i do played ffxiv for their raid experience
drowsy agate
i think you should set some goals along the way before you get there
most statics are going to want to see that you've cleared a current raid tier before attempting ultimates
like they want to know you're a good enough player to at least beat a current raid tier
so in all likelihood you will probably be working on e9-e12s, or if it takes long enough, you may be doing next expansion's raid tier first
faint tinsel
ye ofcourse, im just listing some stuff right now and sorting through them by difficulty based on the responses i got
seeing how theres actually lots of stuff out there, i want to familarize myself on what would I want to do and what I should ignore for now
median pagoda
Hello all - quick question I'm sure has been asked a ton: Do you need to have the current relic wep equipped or be on the relic job for the alliance raids?
median pagoda
Good deal, thank you
torn kindle
You just need the weapon somewhere in your armoury or inventory
lost trench
I swear E10S is making me rage
I've seen enrage multiple times, been doing all mechs correctly
And all my party members keep failing and messing it up and the others start blaming ME for the wipes
I didn't cause the wipes, like lmao look at these players messing it up.
high ether
sorry, it is impossible for us to judge that without seeing your run
urban jasper
U think they do any hard content to replace the missing ultimate content in the next patch ?
lyric summit
probably not
lyric summit
ultimate is pretty much the biggest effort for the smallest audience so it's very low priority really
lyric summit
probably end of march/start of april, shortly before the patch on 13th(?) april
drowsy agate
I didn't cause the wipes, like lmao look at these players messing it up.
like the guy from gilgamesh said, gotta upload a parse so we can see
high ether
there's Delubrum Reginae (Savage)
that's something to sink your teeth into if you want super hard content
lost trench
like the guy from gilgamesh said, gotta upload a parse so we can see
I don't know how to use ACT
I have it installed but I don't know how to use it
Like what can I do with it?
lyric summit
https://www.fflogs.com/help/start upload logs
lost trench
It says under construction
lyric summit
for the guilds section which no one cares about
the rest of the guide should be up to date
lost trench
Guilds? Lmao I thought it said guides
lost trench
Well i'll install it soon, I have no idea what does it do
And from reading that guide
I installed that FFLOGS cilent
drowsy agate
if ACT is already showing you your DPS then it's already logging
just follow the uploading logs part of the guide
sage wasp
Note to self: don't do savage/extreme content >.>
quick verge
why
sage wasp
Cause I'm too much of a fuck up 
And don't want to cause problems for people when I inevitably do
quick verge
just uh
take notes on how you can improve each time you do something
and then you won't be a fuck up
lyric summit
i mean if you dont want to do it then don't but everyone can get good
sage wasp
That and I got stressed out from raiding in heroic on wow >.> sludgefist, and I don't want to get stressed from this game as well
Because when the group keeps dying over and over, I start to rip into myself, and get stressed/depressed
vital raven
Aether PW pop
blissful bobcat
For titan phase 2 on e12s does anyone know if the 2 blue tethers that you get are set for like 1 DPS and 1 T/H or is it completely random?
quick verge
for the second set of rocks, the two blues are random
for the third set, it's 1 dps and 1 t/h
crisp dagger
honestly savage & extreme scare me because I don't wanna be yelled at after fucking up for the 10th time lmao
violet comet
Some ppl do training party in pf
urban temple
honestly savage & extreme scare me because I don't wanna be yelled at after fuck...
Everyone fucks up more than ten times in the process of learning a fight
Also the player base that doesnβt do savage presents it as some unobtainable thing that only elitists do done by 1% of the population which is not true.
Well below average players clear savage and become better in the process. Just go for it.
wispy scroll
Ixions up on Excalibur
So a light party consisting of WAR, AST, RDM, and SAM just took out Ixion in 7 minutes. I love this game xD
subtle marsh
honestly savage & extreme scare me because I don't wanna be yelled at after fuck...
Like what was said before, there are learning parties and as long as you're doing your best and taking suggestions, no one can reasonably be angry tbf.
Extremes are a good way to dip your toes before getting into savage. They're a tier lower in difficulty, but it helps you get an idea of how to play with harder mechanics, utilize your pre pull if you have one, and opener.
Extremes you can learn rather quickly as well, and once you have it down you can farm your favorite extreme for the mount or weapon you like for glam.
Savage is a bit more of a longer commitment, but that shouldn't deterre you from trying.
undone tide
do savage for the mount and nothing else
sinful brook
can't be me π
undone tide
can't be me π
subtle marsh
Some people like twintania weapon for glam
undone tide
my friend: "why would you do ultimate it doesn't even have a mount"
subtle marsh
Please don't correct me when I explicitly give appropriate reasons. It's unnecessary and very annoying.
subtle marsh
Just go away if you can't be productive, thanks.
undone tide
just go away if you can't decide to not create unnecessary drama
daring dome
i did ultimate to get flamed by people in df for not being able to do mechanics with my title
undone tide
lol
undone tide
just don't use title
sinful brook
best fake commercial
daring dome
yeah i wont
sinful brook
daring dome
ull use the weapon n pretend its a relic
subtle marsh
Im not going to get into a pissing match.
daring dome
undone tide
you already have
subtle marsh
Fuck off.
undone tide
make me
foggy latch
if you guys got issues take it to #general-discussion
this is a serious channel
subtle marsh
Super serious
stable basin
do savage for the mount and nothing else
That's why I do savage
sinful brook
ah yes the eden stripper pole
stable basin
I don't
undone tide
yes u do
sinful brook
Skyslipper > flying horse daddy > eden stripper pole
dull radish
titan car when
sinful brook
Eden ultimate π
quick verge
im so pissed titan car wasn't a thing
and then we get ramuh
i hate square enix so much
serene lotus
All the people wanting the Voidwalker
sinful brook
They all just want to be held π
daring dome
eden stripper pole is like
way better than riding the old man
if i wanted to ride old men id go work at a retirement home
daring dome
that just makes it more exciting
its a stripper pole with a built in stage at the top
quick verge
with a built-in light show
daring dome
shouldve made it a two person mount
sinful brook
Yes let the person standing on the top stage dance
daring dome
im more excited for the mount that the bozja queen sits on
i hope we get the exact same sit
maximum i-will-step-on-you aura
sinful brook
Now imagine a lala doing it. Its no longer as threatening and they can't reach the ground
subtle bone
Air force >
sinful brook
only 9 more runs until the achievement's are finished~
stable basin
niceeeee
at both
a group in crystal cleared yesterday i believe, now people are flexing the mount
thorn plaza
So how alike are Delubrum and Baldesion
thorn plaza
how easy is it to get punished for others fuck ups
subtle cave
yeah
like. other people can't really fuck you over
like they can't kill you apart from tethers on first boss
but, if enough ppl fuck up mechanics
you'll reach like 95% enrage lmao
and dr savage is much harder than ba
thorn plaza
So it's not like Ozma and his meteors and something acceleration debuff that I forget the name of
subtle cave
you can't be carried in dr savage like you could in ba
dr savage you need to know mechs
and be able to execute them
the mechs are equiv to first/second floor savage/ex trials
thorn plaza
So you actually have to be compotent
thorn plaza
Dreading getting into that already then
thorn plaza
on an unrelated note
why the hell has it been so hard to get a party up for late E4S prog recently
thorn plaza
People still run stuff like O12S daily though
subtle cave
yeah cos it's uwu unlock and easy
thorn plaza
Nah
subtle cave
e4s you actually need to know mechs
thorn plaza
O12S doesn't unlock an ultimate
steady pebble
uwu is o8s
subtle cave
oh
oops
my apologies
probs cos it's easy and gives cool mount
e4s is also hard
sinful brook
blu achievement too
thorn plaza
Also O12S is easy, but you do need to be slightly compotent to do it
subtle cave
you actually need to prog e4s
steady pebble
also probably helps right now that there's blu mage to do it with
thorn plaza
People actually need to know how dice works otherwise it'll most likely result in a party wipe
subtle cave
e4s is current xpac savage, while you have echo it's still a hard fight
thorn plaza
Idk it isn't that hard tbh
subtle cave
slightly competent vs actually competent
thorn plaza
I like E4S
My only gripe is evil earth with how sometimes if you're half a second late the game still thinks you're on an exploding tile
other than that I like it
fun as hell
Plus the mount is a free 4-seater
I however find it nice how they put Evil Earth like right at the beginning
weeds out the people who aren't good enough for the fight
stable basin
If it requires prog and it's not current tier it's too hard for people to bother in PF
undone tide
Ofc I do incredible in e9s but I get a damage down...because I forgot to do wide angle and did anti air movement instead.
Maybe I can get a purple on 10 today
sinful brook
Nah you're gonna get damage downs because of someone π
sinful brook
It was my fault yesterday π
thorn plaza
I've been considering kind of trying to parse but isn't it against ToS
quick verge
it is yeah but action won't be taken against you unless you talk about it in game
like calling someone out on their dps numbers
sinful brook
Using it as a self improvement tool is fine
thorn plaza
I mainly tank/heal anyways
cause my only level 80 dps rn is BLM and I'm afraid of fucking up the JP opener
despite my constant practice of it
golden spear
anyone got a whm savage guide?
storm frostBOT
undone tide
You can also find some guides in #healer-lounge
but the ones in healer lounge just cover the basics, if you're trying to optimize the balance is your best bet
golden spear
thx
sinful brook
specifically saltedxiv has a lot of healer fight optimization stuff @golden spear
sleek scroll
upper cedar
The primals version of thordans theme plays when you do the fight with blue mages?
this song is awesome 
lyric summit
no im pretty sure that one youtube vid just put eorzean symphony and primals music as bgm for their blu thordan pov lol
maybe in dragonsong war ultimate 
undone tide
maybe in dragonsong war ultimate <a:SadgeCry:807707212730335282>
What ultimate 
lyric summit
the one coming out in 2027
quick verge
yeah it's a shame that it's coming out in 2035
drowsy agate
don't talk about it or you might jinx it until 2040
foggy latch
boomers thinking they will stay alive til 2050
upper cedar
no im pretty sure that one youtube vid just put eorzean symphony and primals mus...
F
sage wasp
I then realized, nobody does castrum
And I'm on tonberry
So, rip dreams of upgrading relic weapon
sage wasp
I was about to say
And as far as I know, there's no discord groups either
There is for US servers
hearty crag
Elemental have discord named content achiever but the CLL run is also on halt due to DR
sage wasp
DR?
hearty crag
I can give you the link if you want
sage wasp
Uh sure
stable basin
I think a lot of people are waiting for castrum reward hotfix
hearty crag
I hope the hotfix is good enough to lure players
sage wasp
I doubt tbh
merry olive
is there a good FFXIV discord for LFG? specifically castrum?
quick verge
https://discord.com/invite/Q92V7y4 can try looking around in here
loud badger
Ugh I'm stuck
I can't find alphinaud and figure out how to navigate the weirdly layered map in The Illuminated Land
drowsy agate
I can't find alphinaud and figure out how to navigate the weirdly layered map in...
not endgame content but he's probably below you
underground somewhere
undone tide
I would like a guide to intermediate relativity
dull radish
intermediate is about the easiest one, especially if you're just doing standard strats. You mainly just go to protean spots and place the debuffs in order from highest timer to lowest timer (right side of debuff bar to left side), and face to the edge of the arena when you do the last one. Here's a toolbox explaining it https://ff14.toolboxgaming.space/?id=576226053208061&preview=1
undone tide
Which debuffs can I get
stable basin
There are 3 sets of debuffs
You always get all 3 sets in a random order
First is fire on everyone, just spread around the boss
Second is ice on either all dps or all non-dps, and wind on whoever doesn't have ice
the ice stack on the butt and the wind go out to the edge on their clock spots
Third is gazes on either all dps or all non-dps, and three flares and one stack marker on the other group
Flares go to the edge on their clock spot and gazes+stack spread very loosely around mid
You go to your spot for each set in reverse order, and look toward your clock spot as the last one snapshots because you'll be stunned and need to be looking away from the gazes whenever they go off
stable basin
This has toolboxes on all the phases
Wait wrong one
This one
Remember your clock position
Use the circle in the center as a guideline for where to stand for blizzard and NOT the boss' position (else you'll clip each other and die)
And always look out before you get stunned and mechanics resolve
- Blizzard in, Aero Out
- Clock positions (aka eruption)
- Eyes (+ stack) in, Flares out
These mechanics will always be paired together no matter what. All that differs is which one you get and the order
For eyes/stack, don't stand directly in the middle else ur gonna mostly likely look at someone and die. You can stand on the edge of the inner circle to avoid this and still be in stack
Feelsbad getting aero and flare as tank though 
stable basin
People should pull the boss to a cardinal for completely free uptime but they don't for some reason
especially if melee/tanks share clock spots on the outside because they never both need it at once
golden spear
for e12 lions, its either all dps OR t/h who randomly get tethers right?
dull radish
correct
subtle cave
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuIs_JTXUAADrib?format=jpg&name=large
have you cleared?
subtle cave
nope
you enjoying it?
i honestly really loved it
it was painful trying to prog queen and having to go for an hour to just get to it
but, it was worth it.
foggy latch
it was fun
still super chess mech need alot of attention
i understand how it works
but im not fast enough to figure out the movement
outside super chess queen is pretty simple
3rd boss is actually harder
foggy latch
there are only 2 patterns?
thorn plaza
So how hard/similar is Titan unreal to E4S
dull radish
extremely easier and very very different
titan unreal is just titan ex from back in ARR, it's an ex trial
just scaled up so you can do it at level 80
torn kindle
Titan Unreal is really only hard in that Deaths from falling off are permanent, which stopped being a thing in like 3.2 content with Sephirot being the last fight to really do so.
thorn plaza
Ah yeah
That
Also, I'm planning on doing TEA after farming BiS gear from Eden 1-3S
Any tips?
Probably will do it as T/ H
uncut gate
does feint work on burnished glory in e11s?
dull radish
no, the initial application is magic, so you mitigate it with addle
drowsy agate
any tips on 2nd rocks for titan junction?
the blue markers being random throws us off
we always happen to have two people running south
dull radish
have people loosely spread out and whoever is closer to south takes that one, the other person goes north.
You can also set up a priority system, either a strict one with everyone numbered 1-8 or a loose one based on roles (preferable). Like tank/heal go north, dps go south. And two in the one group, you have it worked out who would flex the other way (or call it out as needed)
finite plank
people assign dps number priority but... i usually ignore that and go with "whoever at south is nearer to east or west, I'll go to whichever side I'm closer to"
I'm not gonna tell who's d1 and so on midfight unless it's a group of people I somehow recognize play
odd beacon
^
Im D4 but I usually have to go to the other side anyway because I'm closer
This is true even in my static raids
lethal oasis
if anyone here knows of a primal server/discord/group/whatever that's going about progging delubrum reginae savage plz ping and/or message me, just got rank 15 and I wanna get my cerby mount one way or the other
torn kindle
@lethal oasis https://discord.gg/primalforays
lethal oasis
much appreciated! have joined
subtle cave
<@234969534874910720> delubrum savage is down
big congrats dude
we just failed out reclears
5^ enrage looool
trying again on friday
we're just trying to get all our subs their clears
so we had like, 15 of them over the whole tme
foggy latch
ty
foggy latch
seems ppl found out a way to delete animation lock in stuff by a plugin called xivalexander
even if you have 200ms u can still doubleweave like its nothing
and doubleweave pots too
stable basin
It doesn't delete animation lock, it simulates 30 ping
Like it hard forces 30 ping, if you live in Japan, western Europe, or California it will literally make your animation lock worse
It also totally erases the disadvantage of playing on wifi
uh oh here we go again
stable basin
It also randomly sets your animation lock to 5 seconds if you try to screw with the numbers
foggy latch
also there is no way to detect it in fflogs
stable basin
I mean
FFlogs would detect it if you did something outside what's possible right?
So if it can't detect it
That means it's putting you on even footing with people who have good ping
foggy latch
yes
stable basin
this feels nice af but some people can triple weave with no clip on slow jobs because they live in jp
foggy latch
nvm i cant read
nova socket
its a rly nice tool to play on other DCs
feels like im playing on eu when I do content on na with the tool + vpn
@sinful brook its the same with lots of mods in this game, just cus you could use the technology to cheat doesn't mean the app itself is cheating
Many mods people use for non-combat purposes could be repurposed to cheat easily
foggy latch
i still see it as getting an advantage
on something you shouldnt by normal means
at least on competent stuff like fflogs ranking
but yea like u said
undone tide
this is some jp guy triple weaving
xivalexander doing work
stable basin
you can't do that triple weave with alex
undone tide
Lol
stable basin
it literally increases animation lock if you're under 30 ping
undone tide
Ic
sinful brook
it definitely goes beyond the level of evening out the playing field through the way it manipulates packet data
obviously yes you could definitely accomplish similar levels of exploitation with other mods
but this is one that is sorta extra blatant with it
nova socket
How is having 30 ping something you can't have by normal means @foggy latch
If anything the program is a downgrade to most people playing on EU
lmao
foggy latch
not everyone have 30ms
i dont for example
unless you can get me a visa to immegrant to germany
nova socket
How is that something you shouldn't have by normal means?
tribal pecan
is the game up?
stuck narwhal
Yeah, just logged in
dull radish
For the plugin, it's not so much about the end resolution that the base version of it does. If it could only be used to emulate 30ms ping then it's not too too bad, and highlights a problem that can and should be resolved by SE to begin with. But the problem lies more with the method it does it, and how easily hairsbreadth away it is from just blatant cheating
finite plank
took a nap, read the above
...stimulated a forced 30ms?... that sounds... really nice when I have a fluctuatiing 80-130ms
serene lotus
dull radish
if you have packet loss and general instability it's not going to resolve those
subtle cave
do people really think haste gear is necessary to clear?
like, have ur earring, ig, but... meh?
foggy latch
(If no one in the entire raid had any haste gear then almost none of those deaths were on hot/cold or queen, particularly if you claim to be beating DPS checks by that much and negates the point of even mentioning it. Also means very few people were sitting on ruin debuffs. While not required haste gives a huge amount of leeway for groups to clear with suboptimal comps or players which means for the majority of the player base haste is required as it is the only gear upgrade within DR to help them.)
@subtle cave enjoy reading
subtle cave
wtf
just
dont get hit
it's not hard
i give up on this games community
like, 1-2 ppl with haste gear and pure dps actions will carry so much else
get 3 mnks with banner/fonts
they align like a mf
if they have haste gear they can push comfy 40k
like. at queen
you can deal with so many deaths if people just use lost actions
and if people dont die at first edict
(or get damage downs)
foggy latch
meanwhile no one had haste gear and 56 deaths at queen
3 secs to spare
haste gear required right?
subtle cave
totally required
subtle cave
yes
the dps check is not tight
just use your lost actions
bring reraisers
use lb3 effectively (healer)
foggy latch
everyone got dmg down at start too
subtle cave
ye
subtle cave
like at queen you should have at least 5 charges of your font left
i usually have 4
which is plenty
foggy latch
our 1st trinity seeker clear was with 97 nobooli
foggy latch
yes
subtle cave
om im gonna check oursn ow
undone tide
Give a samurai font of power and give all your WARs lost slash
finite plank
for it to be so lenient
undone tide
easy
foggy latch
thats how it is
undone tide
Font lines up incredibly well with samurai
foggy latch
dps check dont exist
foggy latch
3
undone tide
How
subtle cave
mnk is god tier tho
subtle cave
blm/mnk broken
subtle cave
idk we all use pures
undone tide
Irregular is terrible pls don't use
finite plank
i'm potion poor
foggy latch
no one use anything outside pure
subtle cave
pures are 100x better than all of them
foggy latch
unless u doing meme gambler
subtle cave
kekw lb3 bitch
finite plank
er, what's gambler
undone tide
You will die to raidwides if you use irregular
subtle cave
you will die to raidwides if you use anything other than a pure essence
foggy latch
pure essence is basically
subtle cave
or have a chance to
finite plank
er, how do i farm pure essence?
finite plank
oh, i forgot about that
foggy latch
or farm nm
subtle cave
you're nin so i think you need... idrm
finite plank
i play rdm in bozja
subtle cave
just get in a cluster farm group
finite plank
i'd then try war
subtle cave
you can do 300 clusters/hr
finite plank
but i'm still bozja dumb
undone tide
Time to do e9s with one braincell
quick verge
how long was this encounter
finite plank
er, what happened to the guys at the bottom
subtle cave
enraged
undone tide
Why are they all dying to mercy
foggy latch
its much faster in savage
subtle cave
apart from those cleaves
subtle cave
i do too
foggy latch
he is the worst
subtle cave
i hate that it doesnt have a normal hitbox
i want to mod the game just to give them a normal hitbox
so i can do it directionally
foggy latch
bozja today https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807701838601650186/811270544300179476/unknown.png
subtle cave
nice
open crown
Lol
restive pulsar
Is there any spreadsheet or something like whats best to put ur stats for your relic?? I gt the DRG any puted everything into crit and det but iam not sure if thats right, also which is better? The 515 relic or the 520 weapons?
steady pebble
should follow stat prioirty which for drg is: Critical Hit Rate > Direct Hit Rate = Determination > Skill Speed
cryptlurker would be better since higher wp and main stats, though 515 relic isnt too terrible if you wanna save 1k revelations to buy other things
terse tundra
Anyone know the chest items for e10s?
steady pebble
(Head/Gloves/Boots) x2 + Weapon Tomestone + Glaze
terse tundra
Whatβs a glaze?
sinful brook
Its used to augment cryptlurker (revelation tomestone) accessories
steady pebble
!faq savageloot
storm frostBOT
sinful brook
Beyond books there aren't items that don't come from a chest in savage anyways
torn void
so as an 80 relatively fresh out of msq, I have an exarch set, what should I try out next?
I kinda steamrolled through msq so I skipped most of the side content, going back and catching up on it now, but idk what the difficulty progression is like on it
torn kindle
If by fresh out of MSQ you just mean the leveling story you still need to do the 5.3 story to unlock the last tier of Eden.
torn void
oh I've finished it through 5.4
ik about eden, I'm just wondering what's the best way to jump into harder content
torn kindle
I generally do it by watching various guides for the fight, look up the strategies that people talk about in the party finder listing, and join a progression party.
stable basin
Wanting to get into savages and EXs but I can't seem to find a place to start on Balmung.
stable basin
Alright
stable basin
(E10 accessory upgrade is actually called crypt dusting this time around, not glaze but i make that mistake a lot)
unkempt cypress
what is uptime dog strat for e10s? can't find slideshow >.>
unkempt cypress
what do you do with the orbs?
unkempt cypress
so u just mitigate the giant cleave from the dogs and take orbs? instead of going to the line safespot?
foggy latch
yup
unkempt cypress
i see, thank you
unkempt cypress
How does that work? Just throw out all stackable mitigation and shields?
sinful brook
Basically. Tank lb as well if you feel it would work with the situation
stable basin
(E10 accessory upgrade is actually called crypt dusting this time around, not gl...
if calling them glaze, twine, and polish is wrong then I don't want to be right
or accessory juice, twine, and weapon juice
steady pebble
there was only carbontwine and coat
for ironworks, for solidery it was oil and sand of time
foggy latch
nvm it started to be a thing in midas savage
drowsy agate
is it possible to do uptime dogs at all between tank lb and GNB/pld/ast?
no sch in our comp
sinful brook
drowsy agate
i'm not completely sure the calculator's accurate though
i read that addle doesn't work
and i don't think the calculator is factoring in better gear
oh it looks like it's been updated to include addle not working
do you normally have lb2 ready at that time? I don't recall
quick verge
you can, yeah
if you ran war/pld/whm/ast then you could do uptime dogs
but it might be inconsistent due to damage variance
undone tide
pretty sure if you have to use tank lb it's a dps loss
drowsy agate
is it? i think tanks only lose like one gcd to use it
undone tide
you lose 2
drowsy agate
what ilevel does the calculator assume
because according to this, if we blow literally everything + tank lb2 we can do it
quick verge
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
probably 530
pld has a 21k shield which is the value you'd get at max ilvl
quick verge
in the end, it's still pretty coinflippy cutting it that close. player error like everyone standing under wings and then moving to their spot, alongside damage/healing variance can just randomly meme you
foggy latch
we did play with calc
given we have ast+whm
and we still having 12k to mitigate
even including all our mitigations and crit shielding
including LB
dull radish
dunno about pinning it necessarily, it's also just available via !faq utility though if needed for reference
terse tundra
Does anyone know the bot command to look at savage raid items?
dull radish
!faq savageloot
storm frostBOT
thorn plaza
Going to be progging E10S, watched a video, any tips?
subtle cave
for the shadow cleaves
The ones where you get a shadow yourself, and have to work out where to place it
visualise the boss as your own character, and notice the way they are cleaving
your character is the front of the boss, the shadow the back.
align it with that and it will make that mechanics easier to understand, and do quickly
also, just do kachi. don't join uptime parties. just do kachi ffs
sinful brook
to put it in braindead terms. point the butt of the shadow at your hotbars if they're at the bottom of the screen
then move left or right depending on the cleave
subtle cave
serene lotus
Channy does callouts, so he has to learn how to get a herd of animals to move as fast as possible with as few words as possible
drowsy agate
surprised none of y'all talked about the worst mechanic
which is orbs
it's going to take at least a few runs to get orbs right
particularly the set during the merry go round
sinful brook
we don't talk about it because its been removed from my brain π
serene lotus
We're trying to do uptime orbs but we're missing something and I'm not sure what
It might be poorly timed, but we use Critlo, Seraph, Shake, Reprisal, Heart of Light and Collective Unconscious
drowsy agate
reprisal doesn't work on orbs
you can remove that from your setup
your scholar's remembering to spread the shield from critlo yeah?
serene lotus
Yes
Tanks don't get damage down, but then it seems to be slightly random out of the others
Sometimes one healer doesn't get and one DPS doesn't
quick verge
try adding in neutral sect shields
drowsy agate
dull radish
if tanks are fine and some other people are barely fine/barely not fine then you're probably right at that threshold and need just a little more on it
damage/shield variance and whatnot
drowsy agate
between shake + scholar they should be way over the needed amount though
i'm assuming war is boosting shake yes?
serene lotus
Ye
nova socket
dull radish
and everyone's getting stuff in time, not falling off too early or applying just before the damage goes out and potentially missing anyone yeah?
drowsy agate
no p.ranged I guess? so no tac?
serene lotus
We do have Tactician, ye
I'm thinking we might have something falling off just before
drowsy agate
if you put things up while the dogs are jumping it should last
you try that calculator above?
serene lotus
Or if there's a certain level of gear requirement, we haven't cleared the fight yet, but we die way less than pepegaing the orbs
drowsy agate
oh that's significant
dull radish
gear would help a little but not that much honestly
dull radish
yeah I'm sure it does, but I don't think it's that drastic of a difference
drowsy agate
or add in tank LB
dull radish
if you have a log you can check to see if mitigation was up for it or whatnot, to double check the timing
full spruce
anyone know what lost actions i should bring for castrum in bozja? i just unlocked it and i've never done it
nova socket
For normal it doesn't really matter, just having a dps essence is enough tbh
serene lotus
According to that calculator we got it down to -10k-ish damage, so hopefully it works
stable basin
Is there anyone that just came back and wants to prog from 1-12 on the raid tier?
sinful brook
Theres nothing to prog for some of the floors now
I did e1s recently to help a friend get tea stuff
It takes 5 minutes and like 2 of those minutes is the cutscene
wheat marsh
Do any of the normal raids have an enrage?
steady pebble
out of current tier, i don't believe so
usually for normal modes, they don't have an enrage. if they do, it is very very generous
wheat marsh
so seeing almost 3 clouds on E9N was a group of poor dps
steady pebble
yeaahhh
wheat marsh
like it literally was switching to that tileset when we cleared
i think hades is the only normal trial i've seen enrage
torn kindle
Yeah enrages in casual content are like a once-twice per expansion thing.
Dun Scaith has an enrage for the first boss covering the floor with a thing that makes it instakill people
stable basin
I have finally reached level 80 Gunbreaker after maining a Monk since ARR. Please tell me the hardest possible tank content in the game so i can challenge myself
drowsy agate
"hardest possible tank content"
so pick one of the ultimate fights i guess
although if you haven't already, you should clear the current tier's savage before going to ultimates
undone tide
You just had to tell him huh...
stable basin
although if you haven't already, you should clear the current tier's savage befo...
π
undone tide
tell him what? the truth?
drowsy agate
i mean, he's asking for the hardest content in the game, which isn't exclusive to tanks
subtle bone
titan unreal first
drowsy agate
not sure why you'd force him to relocate to a different channel for that
undone tide
but yeah do titan unreal and emerald extreme first
thorn plaza
Why is it so hard for VG2 prog groups to actually reach VG2
I've been in at least 3, and they've only reached it once before disbanding
sinful brook
pf always going to be 1-2 mechs behind the description mechanic
serene lotus
People will also ignore both if they haven't seen said mechanic and/or if they have seen it but were dead 75% of the time
thorn plaza
Aight so any advice for getting the E10S clear cause making a prog/duty completion party clearly ain't working
sinful brook
if you're doing pf
its really slamming your head in and hoping you get the right people
serene lotus
Learn to notice trap parties
If people mess up early and often, join a different group
dull radish
if you can bring in any people to pug with you, whether you know them from elsewhere or make friends while pugging, you can tip the odds in your favor quite a bit as well
thorn plaza
Finally cleared 10S after like 3 days of progging it
I hate 10N but love 11N
So I'm probably going to like 11S
subtle marsh
11s is very nice.
sinful brook
having a lot of fun progging it too rn
things feel very easy to grasp but the damage coming out has probably confused a lot of pf healers so we're not as far as we'd like
thorn plaza
I'm just IL 514 on my WHM, should I still try progging it or wait till reset for higher IL gear
subtle cave
I'm just IL 514 on my WHM, should I still try progging it or wait till reset for...
it's fine, your heals will be weak af tho
you'll feel useless even doing all the right things
daring dome
ive done 11s on less so healing will be fine
medica 2 is fairly powerful
its time to take the healer gcd L
if you want to stop thinking just get an ast cohealer
drowsy agate
e11s is really rough on healers
it's a ton of raidwide damage
burnished glory in particular will make you cry
the dot it puts on you is huge
but good luck on the last mechanic (cycles), coordinating mitigations for that is probably shit in pf
don't hesitate to tell the tanks to tank LB
some people are asses about tank LB on that for whatever reason
thorn plaza
aight so for Burnished should I pop temperance/bubble and indulgence then spam cure 3/medica 2 or something else
limber zephyr
aight so for Burnished should I pop temperance/bubble and indulgence then spam c...
Put bubble and medica 2. Usually scholar bubble and medica 2 and if need 1 afflatus rupture should be fine.
dull radish
medica 2 doesn't really sound like a particularly bad idea for burnished
it's only going to be overheal if you have a ton of other healing on it
subtle marsh
That's the dot right?
dull radish
yeah the raidwide -> DoT
undone tide
I think you can get away with just a confession rapture
and have your co healer do their own stuff
dull radish
I mean, it's a situational thing
it depends on what your cohealer is putting on it
and what other mitigation you have
they did mention that they're a bit lower ilvl so
if they're gonna toss something else on it, a med 2 sounds like a pretty good idea
undone tide
If your sch does reci indom and also consolation when they can it'll be easy
But yeah on low ilvl might as well medica 2
If you're low ilvl parse isn't going anywhere soon either way
dull radish
for the record, in our optimized runs we have a med 2 on one of the burnished
undone tide
Yes, one
subtle marsh
It sounds like they're pugging it anyway
dull radish
err wait no, was looking at the weeklies log, that one got pushed to downtime for opti
subtle marsh
so they're not going to get consistency
dull radish
but yeah, I'm certainly not going to just say "no don't med 2, it's definitely overkill/overheal"
subtle marsh
^ You use what tools you have available
overhealing while progging is more than acceptable
drowsy agate
our healers coordinated who's healing when
so their cds align
not to mention we have 2 casters
coordinating addle
dull radish
all the addles <3
but yeah, optimized stuff especially when you have some gear can be cozy. But prior to that, especially when pugging and with lesser gear, you gotta adjust what you do
certainly not to a point of spamming cure 3 or whatever like initially mentioned, but yeah
drowsy agate
the only time we had to use cure 3 was during first prog
we had everyone stack right before cycles so we could cure 3 the burnished
but this was with maybe i515ish gear
subtle marsh
yeah. like, you do what you have to do to see/experience more mechanics. Optimization can come later.
drowsy agate
we don't need to cure 3 anymore
dull radish
yeah they mentioned that they were back at i514. While the rest of the party would likely have a bit more to make things better for them, personally it's going to inhibit their throughput/survivability for themselves
foggy latch
burnished is only scary at last phase
assuming u dont skip cycles
especially when it happens before light or thunder cycle
daring dome
if youre on prog and people die because theres been no gcd healing id kick you out of the party
better safe than down a clear cuz muh dps
toxic wraith
better no clear than end up with grey or greeen 
jk
daring dome
if ur grey with like 5 gcd heals you certainly have bigger problems
stable nimbus
What spells/essence should I bring into Delubrum as a SAM for more DPS? (I'm only rank 12)
lyric summit
just any dps essence you have really
it's not savage so there's no dps checks or anything
and essences increase your dps Significantlyβ’οΈ
plus no role requirements means you shouldn't limit yourself to just damage, so cures, arise, shell, protect and all that can always save your party
subtle cave
she just likes to flirt dont judge
stable basin
also u dont need to recite-indom as scholar for burnished
u put down sacred and then u either use seraph or fey blessing (and WD for both)
sinful brook
@rigid peak #494379215420915712 not really an endgame thing
high ether
you need 48 people for that
if you only accept 90+ you're never going to fill that party
midnight crag
wheat garnet
You can try your data-center's recruitment channel I guess
subtle cave
it started
only ppl who run flare star pls
subtle cave
yuh
drs parses 
like my two 'decent' ones are cos i ran dps actions
whereas later i started saving dps actions on the first 2 bosses and only running 1 rather than 2
subtle cave
dumb lol
subtle cave
they've defs filtered that lmao
subtle cave
yes
duel > 4 flare star targets at opener > 2 targets always at same time
as i said
only ppl who run flare star pls
finite plank
i dont get flare star, it's a dot, that's all i see
for 350 potency per tick, i think?
im guessing used by blms during ice?
dull radish
it's a strong, 60s DoT with a big MP cost that can only be used on caster dps
BLM has the easiest application of it since they have UI to support the MP cost pretty easily, plus you also get the enochian damage bonus on it
finite plank
so... used during ice, yes? I don't actually remember how the damage boost during fire mode works, all I never understood the technical part of blm besides "fire rotation, big dps, ice, regen phase"
i'd think flare star wouldn't be affected during ice
quick verge
so... used during ice, yes? I don't actually remember how the damage boost durin...
enochian has a % increase to your damage which inherently makes it more effective on blm than on rdm for example
you use it during UI because you can add a filler spell to let mp regen do its thing and get back to your rotation
UI and AF won't benefit flare star, and if it does (probably not), it's definitely unintended
dull radish
yeah like, for damage on flare star it doesn't matter if you use it in AF or UI, eno will be active regardless. But since you want to use that MP in AF to cast other stuff for damage, you want to line up to refresh flare star in UI instead
naive shale
olive hearth
yeah
BA was parsed
seeing how much damage you can do it the best part of Eureka/Bozja
toxic fulcrum
Heard you can hit the damage cap in DR
undone tide
100k dps
stable basin
ayyy Stick is our duel guy
pld in his pt has a macro to cover him in case he rips aggro
called it god save mcqueen
quick verge
oh i guess aggro would be an issue at that point
undone tide
quick verge
rip
inland ore
Let's run it 48 times so everyone can have a turn with the duel buff.
kind schooner
trying to get my first e11s clear and every clear party is wiping on turn of the heavens or the enrage because theres like 3 deaths and 5 damage downs a pull
monday nights just built different
sinful brook
Classic
quick verge
monday night 2 chest hours
drowsy agate
monday night 2 chest is a fairy tale
sinful brook
done it before but it takes like 6-7 requeues because of dingusry
subtle cave
<:haha:240841245239410688>
oh, nice. that's good
steep falcon
I did monday night 2 chest in e12s like 5 weeks ago
tall panther
If I dont have 2 chest by the start of the weekend I give up and go for page runs
sinful brook
its like perfect time for 2chest runs right now
stable wasp
i got bored in class nd made up a voidgate strat that probably exists but idk
thoughts?
tanks+melee bait their puddles practically inside boss (triangle) at intercards, ranged and healers bait next to theirs and stay with shadow (i dont remember if you get cleaved standing next to them)
nor do i remember if the puddles stay after you grab them
lyric summit
they cleave if you're too close
but yeah theres a ton of uptime strats with baiting inside the boss https://ff14.toolboxgaming.space/?id=137029528767061&preview=1
stable wasp
neat so my thoughts were correct
lyric summit
i think pf just latched onto the one downtime strat that exists lol
stable wasp
im not a theorycrafter i just got really bored
also i mean JP is completely braindead
its called JP braindead for a reason
nova socket
Just skip the mechanic
stable wasp
good point i suck at that
nova socket
hit buttons very hard
nova socket
do it very hard
stable wasp
am do
stable basin
Thing with VG2 is it's either toxic for casters or super toxic for melee and if you're serious about wanting a good parse you skip it
quaint umbra
So big question
Is laws order the best ilvl510 gear because of the 5 materia slots ?
torn kindle
Most likely yes
Unless some pieces have absolutely terrible innate secondary stats while the Exarchic for that slot has much better ones
quaint umbra
I see
Im currently doing a mix of laws order and exarchic
Sadly i cant overmeld the exarchic gear since i dont have any Crafter class that high level
dull radish
can always request overmelds from someone else who does have a crafter leveled, it's especially nice with the "meld until success or you run out of materia" option
though overmelding isn't super worth it anyways at this point
quaint umbra
Yeah
Since Endwalkers is just on the Horizon i dont think it would be too important to Invest on it
olive hearth
"horizon"
its about half a year away
better do it now before it is useless
then again you could just get it to i515 and do custom substats
pallid gorge
In e12s, Is which statue you get tethered to random?
stable basin
yeah
quick verge
LMFAO
steady pebble
dude's living in the future, nice
drowsy agate
Yeah
Since Endwalkers is just on the Horizon i dont think it would be too import...
you're on aether, you can just request overmelds from me
keen mauve
holy fuck
Damage boosters... standard finish, divination, lady of crowns, trick attack, medicine... That's the full house, that's the most damage anythin outside of BLU or Bozja's gonna do.
steady pebble
570
stable basin
Only hard requirements are at least one tank, one healer, one melee, and one caster
versed vapor
o mm
stable basin
It's literally impossible to beat it without all the different LBs except ranged
And dupe jobs are highly not recommended because getting lb3 for the last ultima can actually be a bit sketch
but like, not having a phys ranged won't screw you over
stable basin
oh and you'll all have 1% less hp but that shouldn't actually be an issue
versed vapor
kks ty
:>
@stable basin lastly btw how long is UWU prog now?
iirc its super short no?