from 5 years ago
#endgame-lounge
hybrid rapids
Frey, vis has the same name hahaha
lyric summit
que
hybrid rapids
Powerful double Legend
hybrid rapids
Frey’s alt
lyric summit
wow identity theft
hybrid rapids
!lodestone tonberry double Legend
storm frostBOT
hybrid rapids
Level 1 tho
lyric summit
not even legend
i've just been name hopping because of free world transfers
i should go back to something more vis related but idk what
hybrid rapids
I would say depends if legends is relevant in 5.x
Like we might have nice title
The Life-less
Rename to No Life
lyric summit
timeless legend from alex
lyric summit
i just want ultimate alexandrian cannon
stable basin
The Absolute Unit
regal halo
stable basin
Still need to prog a bit in UCOB but I like the design better than UWU
Stuff like Predation is a little disappointing because it's mega flashy and cinematic and maybe a nice puzzle for world first proggers but it's stupidly easy once you know how
lyric summit
worst thing about ucob is the 10 years of untargettable bahamut
stable basin
Kind of him to not require you to deal damage while you do the mechanics
lyric summit
yeah but I like how you can dps during annihilation
dull radish
cozy boom
wet stag
almost there
wet stag
yea like half the party died during roulette lmao
wet stag
late succor
dull radish
I'm guessing titan?
dull radish
oh garuda's usually not too bad
titan's the spicy one haha
but yeah if stuff's missing, it's missing
I really wanna get back more into ucob and make some more prog haha
but having some unfortunate IRL stuff going on for some folks meaning we've been missing raid days
wet stag
dang
yea we just took a 3 day hiatus
all the best
also our current tank said she'll only stay with us if we clear nael in 3 lockouts 
dull radish
you can do it <3
it's kinda funny, my group's been in there for like, a lockout and a half total so far
and we're basically caught up to where we left off originally with the group how it used to be, when we were originally progging it
quick verge
how far has your tank seen 🤔
wet stag
Adds I think
boreal edge
yay another orange tho bossdmg only
hollow pulsar
i just reached level 60 and just started HW is there a way to get shire gear immediately or is ironworks the best gear atm?
boreal edge
poetics
dull radish
that doesn't even begin to answer the question haha
@hollow pulsar you can't buy shire gear until you get to idyllshire in HW MSQ, so if you've just started on the quests it'll be a bit
just stick with ironworks until you get there (and take any gear that you might get from MSQ/dungeons that is better along the way)
hollow pulsar
should I just
spend my poetics for augmented atm then?
so i can get any bit of hp i can?
steady pebble
you can also buy lvl 60 vendor gear if you really wanted to
dull radish
yeah that's a possibility, but probably not especially worth it since you're not really gonna be running higher level duties, anyways
for poetics, I'd probably say it's a good idea to spend so you don't overcap, upgrade items are fine especially for weapon/left side gear in general, you can also consider getting gear for alt jobs you might be interested in as well
steady pebble
also depending on what job you are, might be able to get the 60 class gear
hollow pulsar
im a warrior
i tried to do the warrior one but the level 52 quest is at an area i haven't unlocked yet
steady pebble
hrm well just a quick eyeball of the quests, looks like most of them are done in arr zones
hollow pulsar
well I guess since I don't want to rush the msq for gear
guess I'll unlock astrologian for the meantime
thanks for the answers 
sturdy shell
y'all better not try to be funny and post Avengers spoilers here 👀
exotic saffron
errant kayak
^^
untold oyster
i didnt watch the movie but are the rumors about ant man going up thanos's ass true
opal hollow
has anyone tried to solo t9s?
untold oyster
i haven't tried it but it may be impossible due to the golems
getting them to stay separated while having to get them to gobble up all the comets seems like an impossible task 
opal hollow
ahh yeah
i forgot about this
i was thinking of whether it was possible on tank
not sure if i can survive long enough during enrage
welp time to try i guess
rapid blaze
torn kindle
ironically the savage enrage does less damage than the normal mode enrage
Savage does around 20k while normal mode does around 50k.
opal hollow
are there any potions that heal for more than an HQ super potion?
torn kindle
super potion is the best one atm.
opal hollow
gotcha thanks
heavy mist
Good luck
ocean forge
I guess it is time for me to practice A9S
Lololol
I ran out of stuff to do tbh, primal mounts farmed.
ocean forge
I am left with playing something else, get Primal mats, learn a new job, or do Alphascape
errant kayak
yeah that's probably why
imagine getting blue on a job you have zero idea how to play
don't have to imagine any more, it's reality
vital cypress
actually i wonder how much of that is a holdover from, uh
was it HW where Lalafells were noticeably better at BLM than any other race
torn kindle
not really noticeably, and you could just make the difference by respeccing your stat points
but the TL;DR: is that Dunesfolk Lalafells had just enough piety that they could enter UI and not have to wait for a mana tick to cast anything IIRC.
lunar junco
Popotoes are the most powerful raid fighters frightening me
boreal edge
resistence is futile
stable raft
what is a eu server with a good population that is majority english speaking? i didnt play in a while and now everyone on my server speaks french.
also, are there server transfers available? how much does it cost?
lyric summit
#questions-and-help , shiva and moogle have german and french populations equal to english, others are primarly english, a server transfer is like 18$/15(?) euro
steep iris
mfw my war is one of the 67 femroes
dull radish
dang that's such a small number haha
scenic patrol
It honestly doesn't matter much what server your on, you'll always have majority English speakers
dull radish
meanwhile my main and alt are a drop in the bucket in comparison to that metric
untold oyster
Smh I could’ve boosted that male hyur number if I didn’t stop playing the game during uwu prog smh
dull radish
oh also the whole MP thing with dunesfolk lala, the only thing that it kinda made a difference for was if you were in a party with no piety bonus in HW (which wasn't particularly a thing you would have outside of like random dungeon with WHM helaer). For the "immediately cast thunder" thing, dunesfolk lala had the same issue as well even with higher piety
if you cared about the issue, pre-relic you still had to meld the same number of materia, you could just use lower grade materia if you were lala haha. For relic, it technically meant you could have a few more non-piety secondaries
lyric summit
press dark arts more
steady pebble
press it harder
pastel cobalt
Double weave dark arts
heavy mist
Pot harder
steep iris
push suppression harder
lyric summit
just kill it
steep iris
death post suppression?
or before
death before suppression shouldn't matter too much
heavy mist
Oh then rip I guess
Highest grade pots you can use
Melees actually using true north 😂
wet stag
but i mean it still adds on to the timer
ancient trail
Ay yo
One of my friends is picking up Monk
Does anyone have a huge ass spreadsheet guide
lyric summit
!faq mnkguide
storm frostBOT
lyric summit
also #questions-and-help
ancient trail
Thanks
I mean endgame monk is typically
A bit of a pain
I don't play it but I know it's convoluted as hell
steep iris
hollow zephyr
im ilvl390 whm. is alphascape savage. augment scavean gear and eureka my only options to move forward?
ocean forge
afaict, the basis of MNK at endgame are
- align your brotherhood with RoF always
- there are 2 ways to recover from Tornado Kick, but aifact, you do Tornado Kick to end your RoF
junior basin
I'm not the best at explaning.
But basically, the idea is to squeeze in a TK when a buff duration aligns up with your next gcd being a greased lightning gain when you've also got shoulder tackle or perfect balance available to quickly recover GL3.
But it's rather punishing if you mess up as you've used your recovery tools to towards dps.
Considering how close 5.0 is and there's bound to be changes comming that change things around completely, I'd honestly suggest sticking to the more traditional rotation(since your friend is new and still trying to learn the job) where you only TK for killing blows and when retaining stacks is impossible.
Though I'm sure the balance will be up in arms that I'm suggesting such heresy. 😛
stable raft
lol woops @lyric summit seems i clicked on the wrong channel, i wanted to post in questions and help, thanks for the reply though
tribal delta
Hey what’s the tank meta Atm
I’m thinking it’s either warrior or paladin but I’m not sure
dull radish
when talking about meta, it's generally concerning full party instances (8 people), where you have two tanks. With that, the meta comp generally has a PLD and a WAR, DRK is still pretty solid though, generally in place of the PLD
and to note, following the meta really doesn't matter to majority of people anyways, especially since we're out of new raid content until next expansion. Which will bring higher level cap, job changes, a new tank job, and potentially new meta
tribal delta
Ahhh ok ty
high ether
meta has never been terribly important in this game except for speedruns
which I'm glad for because I always end up maining something that's not meta...
wet stag
i mean, you have prog meta, speed meta, and optimization meta
speed and optimization are similar but with slight differences
for one drk is in optimization but not speed
also drk and rdm are really good for prog
sweet blade
Meta for the large part wont really affect your chances of clearing or doing content
Well except for the obvious such as dont double up on jobs ect
dull radish
well, meta loses more and more value the further you move away from optimal play
it's not like HW where meta was significantly stronger than the alternatives
sweet blade
Its not like your going to wipe because you didnt have the meta team
glossy musk
Meta is actually the worst value if you don’t play together properly. There’s no point in having a NIN if they don’t align their TA for example
Taking a SAM is infinitely better
Meta only matters if you coordinate and work together
ocean forge
Meta only works if you are playing at the highest level because that's how finicky it is
For example, Formula 1 race car is actually bad for amateur driver because all its system is designed under the assumption that a qualified driver will be driving it at high speed.
Some of the systems wouldnt work at all at low speed.
dull radish
Well, again that's how meta currently is in the game, and hopefully stays that way. HW was bad about that, both BRD and MCH just kept getting buffed all expansion, making casters and MNK a pretty bad choice even for more casual groups (not to mention how poor a choice PLD was at the time as well)
scenic patrol
Eh, you absolutely benefit from meta once you are semi competent
lunar pollen
*once you and everyone else involved is semi competent lol
Finding the dream team is the tough part for Meta
scenic patrol
Depends on the group
My group will most likely play meta jobs in 5.0 as well no matter the changes
glossy musk
Yeah we’ll all end up meta for my group because we’re slaves to the parse
rain plank
Is it worthwhile (disregarding how close to the end of the expansion we are) to try and push to/past 33.4% haste on MNK?
Since that's the breakpoint at which you'd be able to get an extra bootshine/true strike before refreshing Dragon Kick/Twin Snakes, if I'm not mistaken
It'd require about 3.1-3.2k skillspeed after food, I think?
lunar pollen
Considering we have no idea how they will rework the classes unless you are actively progging or want the knowledge under your belt for personal achievement I'm inclined to say not worth it.
quick verge
enjoy clipping every ogcd
rain plank
Yeah I'm more just curious if it's actually worth it mathmatically currently or not.
rain plank
because of the clipping?
quick verge
and yes the clipping
rain plank
Or is skillspeed just weighted lower than e.g. crit? I've seen some conflicting info so wasn't sure
dull radish
it's not really "weights" per se, but the fact that crit stacking even by itself is very strong, that there's several crit party buffs, and that a crit can give you a chakra stack
it's very, very strong
scenic patrol
When it actively gains potency from Chakra stacks
ocean forge
Plus skillspeed, the goal is to hit certain GCD
rain plank
Makes sense, considering crit gains increased effectiveness per point the more of it you have
scenic patrol
Crit is already the best substat
At this point
And Monk is even more heavily skewed towards crit
!action internal release
storm frostBOT
ocean forge
Bard lives and dies with crit
lunar pollen
Bard really relies on crit so hard
A gear piece without crit for Bard is worthless, even when its a higher ilvl (within reason)
dull radish
yeah I'd preferably word that differently
ocean forge
Subpar?
dull radish
since saying a piece of gear is worthless is far from the truth
quick verge
not optimal
scenic patrol
You'll still want ilvl while gearing
dull radish
I'd say, crit is so strong for them that, situationally it's very viable for a slightly lower ilvl piece of gear to be better
lunar pollen
Yeah, thats fair, its just frustrating how much your DPS tanks when you take a 100+ crit hit.
For Bard specifically I mean
I'd say 5-10 ilvl differences should value crit unless you are having a hard time progging and really need the extra VIT
Anything more than 10 is too much though.
ocean forge
!trait deep meditation
storm frostBOT
ocean forge
Regarding monk, while they definitely like their crits
They are slightly less reliant since only half their crits becomes a chakra
rain plank
I mean Skillspeed fudges that a bit in theory since both skill speed and crit increase the frequency of crits occurring.
Not enough to like, break even though
scenic patrol
Crit still scales exponentially
scenic patrol
torn kindle
No offtopic in this channel please.
scenic patrol
They gave you perms to delete messages hmmm
torn kindle
It's a very tiny 
hammer
lyric summit
wow I thought only endgame mentors could 😩
torn kindle
😛
lyric summit
I have the best advice
scenic patrol
copper pollen
Returning player with full 380 crafted gear. Looking to hit 400ilvl before next exp.
As an astrologian any reason I shouldnt upgrade to full yama set? I have to get the scaevian 390 anyways to make it 400 so is there a point to it?
scenic patrol
if you don't pentameld than sure
steady pebble
If you're going to augment the scaevan gear, i personally wouldn't bother augmenting the yama
copper pollen
Well Kael if I have full aug 380, with that logic wouldnt getting yama be bad unless I aug it ?
steady pebble
still a waste, imo, to turn in raksha gear to get yama augment
copper pollen
Wait can I take my materia out before trading?
steady pebble
yes, and you should
But like i don't really see the point of augmenting up to yama
rakshasa holds you over just fine until you've got the genesis for scaevan
copper pollen
Ok, Im not trying to counter, simply trying to gain info, if I have full mendacity is there no reason not to? I have enough gil
as in nothing else to use mendacity on*
steady pebble
There's not really a good reason to either side unless you specifically need 390 for something, i.e wanting to do savage and want the vit boost
like if you want to spend gil to get the rakshasa to get the tokens then its whatever
copper pollen
Is it not a 1 for 1 trade HQ 380 for the 390 + the mendacity bought item? I already have the 380 hq gear.
steady pebble
it is, but why spend the gil unless you need to hit 390?
copper pollen
what gil am I spending?
scenic patrol
if you already have the HQ and don't have use for Mendacity than there's no reason not to upgrade to Yama
steady pebble
ugh its late and not paying complete attention. either way if you want to augment up to yama, then by all means go for it. I just see it as a pointless augment. You could check your marketboard and see if any of the mendacity items sell well instead of augmenting it
boreal edge
unless i380 pentamelds are better than i390 with 2 melds
but who cares about that 2 months before shadowbringers?
lunar pollen
Worth noting that several of the 390 versions have better substats, like Bard 380 bow doesn't have crit but Bard Yama Bow at 390 does.
In those niche cases definitely worth if you aren't doing Omega or Eureka since Scaevan bow doesn't have crit
latent temple
Just do whichever looks better. Fashion is most important
sturdy shell
you should probably watch out for spell/skill speed since that's the only stat in the game which actually hurts you the more you get of it
more crit/dh/det = more damage, piety = more resources, spell/skill speed = clipping
wet stag
quick verge
it varies on each job
quick verge
blm and sam like to go fast
sam can also go slow
sks on drk is fine as it equates to more resources
on other jobs it's whatever if you get sks/sps
or result in marginal losses
like having a sks that's too high on pld results in you losing ticks of buffed gorings
wet stag
sks/sps is bad on some jobs bc it forces you to refresh your dots early and you lose potency from it, like on drg and mnk. it also makes manafication drift
quick verge
manafication is already gonna drift out the ass
quick verge
it's like adding gasoline to a forest fire
wet stag
if you clip the gain from sks/sps is nullified
quick verge
some jobs also like hitting specific gcd speeds
like 2.37 on war so they can end on eye/fell cleave before IR
sturdy shell
yeah you need certain amounts of sks/sps to reach a tier
so it's kinda bad in that regard too
cause any increase of crit/dh/det is good, yet you need a certain amount of sks/sps to surpass the tier or else it's worthless
dull radish
mmm I'd mostly classify sks/sps as not "bad" but most cases not nearly as good as the alternatives outside of hitting thresholds, and can be annoying/problematic with more of it
also, all stats are tiered, including crit/dh/det
you can easily (and often will) have wasted points due to tiering for a lot of secondaries
of note too, there's actually separate tiers for sks/sps for DoT/AA scaling and for GCD tier, as well (and GCD tiers will vary by cast length in the case of casters)
fossil basalt
wait so like
the sps that reduces cooldown
is different from the sps that increases the speed of dot ticks?
dull radish
dot ticks never change speed
they are always a set 3s interval
but yes, tiers for DoT damage scaling effect of sps, and GCD tiers, are different
fossil basalt
do more damage, tick faster
tomato tomahto
dull radish
they can line up together (like 1449 is a very magical tier, you get DoT scaling tier, 2.5s tier, and 2.8s tier) but they have independent tiers
well it's actually a rather important nuance
when you consider that procs can happen on DoT ticks for various jobs
fossil basalt
oh yeah
quick verge
I too would enjoy having to mash bloodletter every other second
thorn bear
i'll never recommend sks on drk unless u got good ping
I clip constantly on drk and having a faster gcd would hurt more
scenic patrol
Hey @wet stag , just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (ucob is harder) on the THE MINSTREL'S BALLAD: THE WEAPON'S REFRAIN (ucob is harder) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (ucob is harder) at it, and I'm happy that you've(ucob is harder) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (ucob is harder) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (ucob is harder) your group stuck t(ucob is harder)ogether through them all, and you were rewarded for your patience and (ucob is harder) tenacity. Congratulations (ucob is harder) once again, and here's to more success in your future (ucob is harder) endeavors!!! 
lyric summit
grats on actually maining the job with the best uwu weapon
heavy mist
Indeed
dull radish
yeah I can't imagine it happening single target unless your HP gets reduced drastically like construct 7 or whatever or if you wanna be technical and someone else heals you up most of the way and you finish off the self-healing
but AoE, yeah it's probably possible
wet stag
it can in eureka with catastrophe bloodbath
dull radish
almost feels like cheating but yeah that'd do it for sure haha
sturdy shell
so holmgang is better than living dead in almost every way, except that you can't move during it which is kinda bleh since you don't have to move for any tankbuster anyway (from what i can recall)
wet stag
duration is shorter so you cant cheese as much
but sure
it does play a bit of a part in uwu where theres a mechanic where you have to move immediately after a tank buster
but its not super tight
also if you choose to use holmgang at a different point in uwu, sure you get to eat 200k damage ezpz, but if you get targeted by feather rain you eat unnecessary damage
and you can use ld there instead so
wet stag
!whoami
storm frostBOT
hybrid rapids
grats FC mate uwu Faye O/
wet stag
Thank u fc mate leg 
simple sky
!whoami
storm frostBOT
simple sky
dang neat dragoon
high ether
the part where the Ultima Weapon absorbs those other primals and the entire arena becomes one giant spell circle
quick verge
the part where this meme dies
surreal lion
@silent hearth My favourite part was where thanos did that thing and then that superhero person retaliates, crazy 
ocean forge
Beep beeping the beep in the beep was great.
steep iris
Hey, @wet stag , just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (on beating the harder fight) on the THE MINSTREL'S BALLAD: THE WEAPON'S REFRAIN (the harder ultimate fight) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (more than you would for ucob) at it, and I'm happy that you've(beaten the harder fight) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (a fight that is harder than ucob) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (uwu is a significant accomplishment) your group stuck t(uwu is harderr)ogether through them all, and you were rewarded for your patience and (ucob is easier btw) tenacity. Congratulations (on beating the harder fight) once again, and here's to more success in your future (uwu is the hardest fight in the ultimate series so far) endeavors!!! :agooglecheers:
hybrid rapids
🍻
wet stag
ocean forge
why are there so many () ?
hybrid rapids
something to emphasis on
and being slightly sarcastic
on 2k19 clearer
but still congrats them cleared it
love hate relationship
hybrid rapids
it's shinning
quick verge
are you gonna flex in limsa with your blue weapon
quick verge
alright bet
fossil basalt
real gangstas flex with Weathered weapons :^)
torn kindle
ngl but the weathered book for SMN/SCH looks pretty decent.
!itemglam weathered grimoire
storm frostBOT
quick verge
looks like shit
torn kindle
(also because it was like the only green book for a long time)
quick verge
.
hybrid rapids
!whoglamour @quick verge
storm frostBOT
ocean forge
I see the sarcasm and fun poking now
Can't wait to see Gunbreaker and Dancer UWU/UCOB/Primals weapons.
I have mats saved up and ready to go for both of them
hybrid rapids
primal materials can sell a lot ye
i bought my first house with selling 1 mog greatsword
torn kindle
Yeah, Ifrit Demimateria jumped to like 20k in gilgamesh today
while the garuda and titan demimateria are still sitting at 1/2k
I can understand titan's being 2k because his weapons are pretty ugly buy why garuda's too
quick verge
cause her weapons are shit too
storm frostBOT
quick verge
glowy part of cane you can't hold
torn kindle
:sadangry:
lyric summit
wonder if they'll even add lvl 50 primal weapons for them since they start at 60
ocean forge
i think they will
i hope they will
using Samurai and RDM as example
the ARR primal weapons are completely useless to them because their starting weapons or any starting weapons you can get for them from NPC outranks the ARR primal stuff
yet Shiva can still drop Ice katana and rapier, and there are recipes for Titan/Ramuh/Ifrit/Garuda glowy weapons
latent temple
its for Glam
I used Ifrits Katana
It was nice
paper drum
That movie was crazy god damn
lyric summit
this isn't an avengers endgame channel
jolly sluice
can we have one?
torn kindle
I see a new pin in #not-ffxiv-discussion so I guess talking about the movie is okay in there
just make sure to use ||spoiler tags|| and label them as Endgame spoilers.
vague anchor
man this channel is unfortunately named, lmao
heavy mist
yeah
lyric summit
I blame marvel 
heavy mist
u mean mahvel
untold oyster
0 iq marvel fans are still gonna think this is for their movie tbh
ocean forge
endgame is a very common term
chess has endgame
FFXIV has endgame
Monster Hunter has endgame / post G-rank
tender dawn
endgame spoilers?
wet stag
pastel cobalt
Spoilers, Locke has the time gem
tender dawn
eNdGaMe SpOilErs?
pastel cobalt
Saw the future
tender dawn
doctor strange saw the endgame 14 million times, and didn't spoil it
be like doctor strange
lmao my sister been avoiding spoilers all week and just today got sniped by one a few hours before her screening
sly furnace
"How many times did you see Avengers: Endgame?"
"14,600,005"
"How many futures did the movie not get spoiled?"
"One."
sly furnace
I'm protected cause I saw it last night.
silent hearth
Okay so the movie was insane
lyric summit
not an avengers endgame channel
final pine
Want to talk about the Endgame movie? Use #not-ffxiv-discussion and we INSIST you use ||spoiler tags||.
Ping a mod to get trolls dealt with quickly.
torn slateBOT
Wolfencreek#1002 was muted
final pine
No offtopic discussion in this channel.
torn kindle
lyric summit
as if anyone's gonna check pins before posting endgame opinions
torn kindle
Well there will be no excuse for a mute. 
quick verge
sch 4head
sturdy shell
what fight was it
boreal edge
O9S
strong timber
anyone got a gif for hw1
sturdy shell
@boreal edge oh that's becasue they boosted echo to 15%
idk if fflogs takes various tiers of echo into account
boreal edge
15% echo wont make u get orange like nothing
u are still againt people with echo too
scenic patrol
Which strat do you want
There's gifs for Fennek and Mod unreal
Unreal uptime and regular Unlreal don't have gifs
@strong timber
strong timber
mod unreal
scenic patrol
Sure
It shows HW 2
But it's practically the same just ignore the rot
Blue tank keeps the boss until Defemation tank is rescued
strong timber
alright thanks a bunch
fathom matrix
is it true that you need to do o12s before going to ultimate or else you wont make it?
lyric summit
o12s is way easier than ultimates
but only o4s and o8s are required to enter ucob and uwu
but if you didn't clear o12s because of the difficulty, then there's no chance you'll clear ultimate 🤷
hybrid rapids
much more time dedications imo
lyric summit
if you have a group of people who can learn o12s in a lockout or two, then you can clear each ultimate with them in 2-3 months
lyric summit
like 60-80h for uwu and 90-120h for ucob with a group of competent people
ocean forge
I recently watched a breakdown/sorta-guide for UWU
There are quite a few additional mechanics you won't know exists if you watch a plain old clear video
fathom matrix
so basically finding a good group is more challenging than utliamte
ocean forge
I imagine practicing and mastering these with a guide will take a while. Doing it blind will take even longer.
fathom matrix
i dont plan to go in blind, nope
lyric summit
depends on your savage and ultimate raid experience
fathom matrix
as soon as i beat o12s, i wanna do uwu for glam
ocean forge
but that's how the World first groups did theirs
fathom matrix
that cuz they have good group
lyric summit
you can't really just jump into a farm group for ultimate after watching a guide, even primals alone can take weeks to prog
ocean forge
Good luck and have fun.
Good groups have been broken by UCOB
I imagine the same goes for UWU
fathom matrix
gulps
torn kindle
There’s also the fact that you can’t outgear the ultimate fights
ocean forge
Referring to UCOB and UWU, we are still ways away from the first Shadowbringers Ultimate (I assume they are doing them right?)
torn kindle
Their item level sync is the same as the best gear for their patch.
fathom matrix
they are making more ultimate?
torn kindle
So UCOB is i345 and UWU is i375
steady pebble
assuming they follow the time line, 5.11~ should be when shadowbringer's ultimate is released
ocean forge
It is the most talked about contents and afaict, both Ultimates have significantly bumped up the twitch traffic.
fathom matrix
i see
pastel cobalt
I would love either of those, but I'm honestly hoping for Koryu
Featuring Tenzen from the Four Lords series
ocean forge
The assumption is it will go through the expansions
scenic patrol
There's a reason why Ucob was harder in 2017 is meme, but it's not that much of an advantage
wet stag
yeah you still gotta know all the mechanics
but extra main stat is very nice
also retard substats from eureka 
untold oyster
Lmfao the channel name was changed, I was right
untold oyster
It’s going good
scenic patrol
Still playing?
scenic patrol
What content
untold oyster
Alpha, we just got back into playing
scenic patrol
Oh
I am gonna stay with my current static
Hopefully we'll clean up coming 5.0
Happy with our prog speed as well
Even if it was assisted with 15% echo
untold oyster
I feel you
scenic patrol
6 days total to get from M/F prog start to 1% Fomega wipe
untold oyster
But like we can’t find people to fill in the missing spots in the group
Had to cancel raid Thursday because we didn’t have people
scenic patrol
Yeah that's oof
untold oyster
I had a tank join and he misread the pf and thought it was m/f prog when we were doing final omega prog
grim sapphire
Any suggestions for Zenos as a WHM? Requiem solo duty.
hybrid rapids
Increase item level
torn kindle
Especially your weapon too if it's below i360
ocean forge
I was in a Tsukuyomi party, I have a healer with 330 weapons
!itemglam Tsukuyomi Axe
storm frostBOT
ocean forge
My bad
copper halo
ok, so
would anyone be able to give me some tips on what the pug strat for doing level checker is?
stable basin
Ranged who lose the least by moving to the chain, and you call east/west before pull
stable basin
In primal at least, tanks and healers take the north and east circles with the +/- tethers
copper halo
but that didnt work for 10s
stable basin
Sometimes healers
Healers tend to not like doing it but I think sch at least is fine
brd/mch typically have priority then the casters/healers argue over who has to do the other end
Sadly there's no good resource for collecting pug strats that people actually use
mrhappy/mtq guides come out very early and typically show strats that get criticism even in week one
stable basin
The MTQ spread
Pretty much never seen anyone actually try that in PF
By the time I got there people were like yeah we using box strat
stable basin
aw yiss
I like watching a good group doing box strat because people are mostly just running all over the place
Also re: level checker some guides might be old enough not to have the trick for telling where to start
Week 1 people started the chain going N/S and then adjusted to the first meteor spawn
But you just stack north of the chain of the close circles are N/S and south of it if the close meteors are E/W
scenic patrol
Yeah it's nice to do the N/S start strat
stable basin
I hope I remembered that right
dull radish
AST is actually notably the best job for chain of memory during level checker out of the healers
While SCH can just Ruin 2, sure, you lose a lot of potency for it vs using broil 2
Meanwhile chad AST with lightspeed and CO just acts like it's nothing it all and just keeps going about their business the whole time
opal hollow
^they also have sprint for the same amount of time as their lightspeed
it's enough to cover basically the entire thing
lyric summit
they should make all healer dps casts 1.5s tbh
jolly sluice
would love that as sch,
quick verge
don't even have to play the game then
just slide all over fuckin narnia
with your 15k broil 2's
quick verge
physick
jolly sluice
I don't think so?
quick verge
adlo
lyric summit
can't even weave
jolly sluice
oh wow they are
quick verge
book_smacks.mp3
zinc vortex
i can recall at least 3 or 4 instances of losing a kill because of like 5000HP
do your book smacks 😤
zinc vortex
😤 👌
wet stag
no clear tonight 
lyric summit
boreal edge
i had one close call wipe
it was in o3s
where we wiped with boss having 3000 hp left
pastel cobalt
steep iris
you could say the same for all casters
but i don't think people should reasonably expect casters/healers to auto the boss
cause it's annoying to do every time you retarget the boss
lyric summit
caster autos across a whole fight are like one extra crit or something
but sch having m2 benefits from melee range
untold oyster
Dude wipes with like 3000hp left on the boss are the worst
Makes everyone think they could’ve done something slightly better to not wipe, I get that feeling whenever that happens
I had a wipe like that when the shitty boss shittily turned around and caused my trick to miss, if that trick landed it’d be dead 
latent temple
This si why we always get greedy
quick verge
that's why you stack crit
steep iris
I'm sure there's better ways to meet the dps check than mandating your casters and healers auto
cause dps checks in ffxiv lul
torn kindle
don't their AA's equal something like 40-50dps?
lyric summit
you just say that cause you're dirty padding astro 😩
dull radish
I think I had 7 dps on one pull from autos
steep iris
from momo sama's pb pre echo on sch, autos contributed 20 dps
quick verge
listen up fflogs padders
steep iris
rin tin is about 1/2 of that
torn kindle
that's probably with staying in melee range 100% of the time.
dull radish
on my first kill of 11s I killed with an auto as enrage was killing us~
(don't mind that our PLD was dc'ed for like a minute)
torn kindle
simple sky
I stay in melee range for juicy drg tether
quick verge
melee range is the safest place to be most times
wet stag
@dull radish id argue that stat weights are only very misleading now, since stat tiers in arr and hw were so close that stat weights were actually a pretty good approximation
dull radish
ARR was ok for it
HW at end of expansion when people were still using them, it was pretty bad
especially for jobs where you actually consider sks/sps as an option
you had people trying to assign a static weight to it regardless of how much you stacked it
and um, the value of sps at 800 vs 1300 back then was crazy
wet stag
oh really was the level 60 spread that bad
dull radish
yes, yes it was
dull radish
there's a reason folks pushed so hard against it at the start of SB
to try to nip that in the bud as hard as possible
wet stag
tbh
i always figured it was only something discovered after diadem weapons came out
didnt realise it was that bad
dull radish
diadem opened up a whole extra can of worms
but honestly it was creator where general feelings started to change at the theorycrafting end of things
like I was super into just following along and even the weight folks tried to give sps for BLM gave me pause, I was a bit confused haha
glossy musk
wow we had a good night for once
Oh wait
Second kill even better
No AST in group
feelsgood
stable basin
ast = astrologist?
ocean forge
Astrologians
glossy musk
They give balance/spear so they'll help buff your DPS quite a bit
we go WHM/SCH cause our WHM just likes playing WHM
glossy basalt
not mentioning the god Arrow itself 😔
glossy basalt
enhanced Arrow? 
untold oyster
Hey guys
Remember when spear would reduce your cooldown duration
And ruin your rotation for the entire fight
scenic patrol
Spear that shit is simply not possible
dull radish
you could do some fun meme stuff with old spear
scenic patrol
You can't get 6th Cleave without outside help
You have to get either Fey Wind, Arrow or both or even E Arrow depends on your SkS
But you will never have enough SkS to achieve that without help
boreal edge
you can with 700+ sks axe
scenic patrol
Source?
I want to see the theorical BiS for that
No way it's hitting 1.99 GCD
You realize that the required SkS is 3720 right?
Those ariyala links were made pre relic weapon but does not mean that 650 extra SkS suddenly turns into more than 1K extra SkS
stable basin
Best bet for hexacleave would probably be in eureka itself with all the haste items
torn kindle
I'd love to hexacleave in eureka but i also don't want to spend millions of gil to do it.
stable basin
I hit 1.92 but only under blood weapon so you'd probably still need to pile on every bit of sks you can find to do it self-sufficiently
jolly sluice
yeah this seems like going against the paint really hard. So it's just 100% a meme
boreal edge
stats and make your gcds weird
scenic patrol
No
stable basin
the eureka haste is -0.07 gcd
scenic patrol
You just need those 2 at BiS
It's better than E Balance
Did the calculations awhile ago
But not by much
kind schooner
How smooth does DRK feel to play once you unlock the blood gauge abilities? At 61 right now and it deffo feels like im missing some key stuff
Compared to WAR anyway
All I can really do is spam the souleater combo while throwing in dark arts and using C&S+Blood wep off cooldown
glossy musk
It’s very smooth imo but still spammy
scenic patrol
It's very subjective
Some swear that DRK is braindead at all levels of play some say its more engaging
At the end it's GCD based gameplay VS 0GCD gameplay
PLD and WAR are more heavily GCD based and DRK is very 0GCD based
glossy musk
I wouldn't say any of the tanks aren't braindead but I also feel DRK is more engaging than other tanks
because you press more buttons
and have to at least pay a small amount of attention to your MP sometimes
chrome mesa
So I haven't played since Heavensward, how's the end game these days? Still the same? I played a Marauder, if that matters
glossy musk
Endgame is 8 man hardcore raids, 24 man casual raids, and whatever else you want to do
Also 2 extremely hardcore raids available
If you're up for the challenge
glossy musk
While I would agree, it's harder than 90% of the players can manage
scenic patrol
15% echo is a hell of a drug
quick verge
glossy musk
tonight I want to try taking a savage wave cannon solo with just CDs
I think it'll be fine
it does like 450,000 damage?
chrome mesa
We talking at release Coil of Behemoth hard, or Alexander?
quick verge
400k+ i think
scenic patrol
It did 420K to me on opener
glossy musk
So I'm at like 118k HP without CDs if I'm in defiance
if I pop everything
I think I'll live
I must do this for memes
glossy musk
Math is dumb I'm just gonna pop everything and find out
scenic patrol
And a personal shield as well
scenic patrol
Lul
scenic patrol
Anyhow back to your question Wobbley I dunno how to put it in comparison since I didn't play actively at the time
glossy musk
I played at the time, so here's how I feel on them
They're slightly easier than Midas, harder than Creator
the two Ultimate fights though are another league
Beyond anything you've done before
glossy musk
That being said coil was never hard outside of t9 and t7 imo
people like to look fondly back at it as something hard but it wasn't
we were just new
quick verge
wasn't the game also jank back during first coil?
scenic patrol
I dunno I looked at T9 world second vod and it looked fairly simple
Especially compared to Ucob
quick verge
i heard you'd get nuked by twisters even if you were moving as the cast ended
glossy musk
Twister was designed differently
scenic patrol
Nael in Ucob is so much faster paced
glossy musk
If you moved too it also killed you
one sec I have a video of how we dodged it
You had a very small "circle" around you that you could move from when the cast started
If you moved too far, you died. If you didn't move, you died. If you doubled back, you died
quick verge
the fuck
glossy musk
That's why people thought it was bugged
quick verge
dude literally touches the tip of the twister
glossy musk
We only figured it out by watching our videos constantly and seeing that our melee were living
and going "ok how"
and realizing "oh ok Peng moves like 5 feet that must mean something"
scenic patrol
Now people are just chadding the mech with moving 2 steps to dodge it and maintaining full uptime
In Ucob that is
glossy musk
Yeah long as you're moving at the very end it doesn't care now
so you just go wigglewiggle
quick verge
i liked playing a game in ucob where I would stand on top of someone to try and make 2 twisters perfectly overlap
twisters have come a long way
boreal edge
T9 was hard?
scenic patrol
I dunno, it looked about equivalent to M/F in difficulty I feel
cunning eagle
where can i get yellow kudzu root?
rapid sapphire
peaks, sleeping stones (min) or last forest (btn)
cunning eagle
cool beans. thanks!
strong timber
I thought omega weapon coffer was a guaranteed drop
Feelsbadman
I got a mount tho so whatever
strong timber
Is it really
lyric summit
yes
strong timber
Nope nothing
Had to roll on it
Ohhh ok
That’s what I meant by that
I thought after you cleared it would be a guaranteed drop for you personally
lyric summit
oh no that would be way too easy
gotta have a reason to get weeklies when stuff is capped
strong timber
Yeah you’re right lmao
lyric dawn
how the hell do is a WHM can do the ||last fight in the story where we fight that sword guy, it took me couple of minutes as dps, ||idk how a WHM would do it :/
torn kindle
I recommend holding onto presence of mind and cleric stance for that part.
ocean forge
Get better gear
sturdy shell
why would moving too far kill you for pre-nerf twister? if you didn't run through another person's path i don't see why it'd kill you?
torn kindle
apparently how it worked originally was that during the cast time there was an invisible box around you
if you left that box twister would kill you.
sturdy shell
is that how it works in ucob?
torn kindle
nope.
...or i don't think so.
I would have to watch a few clears to know for sure.
sturdy shell
ok now i know why it took ppl so long to figure out twister
torn kindle
yeah, people first found out when the melee weren't being killed by it since they wanted to stay close to the boss and keep positionals
sturdy shell
i think ppl move in a circle during ucob to maintain uptime and to avoid overlap
quick verge
there's several ways to dodge twisters in ucob
running in a circle is safest if you don't want to chad the mechanic
scenic patrol
People do minimal movement twisters in Ucob
quick verge
the twister will snapshot your location near the end of the cast
quick verge
you can also move right as the cast ends
but that's like
suicide tier
ucob twisters don't yeet you out of the game cause you like to run
stable basin
So I grinding my way up to level 9 with the challenge logs in eureka
I completed all the killing elemental monsters, both 30 and 60
What do I do now?
torn kindle
You can try to join the NM train if your instance has one, though it can be difficult moving around.
fathom matrix
untold oyster
is your graphics card melting
odd stream
looks cool though
quick verge
what the fuck
fathom matrix
it looks repp cool
glossy musk
@sturdy shell old twister worked like this. The donut is the safe zone. Anything inside the hole or outside it was instant death if the cast finished and you were there
I usually did the second method
stable basin
One WHM away from the god comp
glossy basalt
I.. I'm not sure how to feel about this.
scenic patrol
it's very impactful
vital cypress
boooo
scenic patrol
did that pun send a Jolt through your brain?
errant kayak
wait that actually looks a lot better
actually
not in mf, but sure beats the bleck bg of final
errant kayak
That’s why there’s a ffxiv in the channel name 
latent temple
why would one movie get its own channel
you small brains
torn kindle
We had to (temporarily) change the name of this channel because people kept thinking this was for the movie
...even though this channel has been around for months
latent temple
Thats the part that really gets me.
It's been here since I joined and started shitposting
Guess some people just never leave General
copper halo
What guides would people recommend for 12s
since guides are generally out of date at this point
boreal edge
fennek guides are ok
but dont do his strats
for mechs
well most his strats are fine
except hello world
glossy musk
Is his strat cowboy emojis
This is all you need though. The other mechanics are brain dead easy
@copper halo
Note C should be on ring 3 not 4
The first GIF has it one ring too close which can be sketch
fathom matrix
does duty roulette static exit?
boreal edge
huh?
if u mean a premade can leave duty roulette and not get 30 min penalty
thats wrong
u get penalty even if its premade for 1st leaver only
simple sky
only within a certain amount o ftime right?
dull radish
roulettes are specifically a bit of a pain. Even as a full premade, the first person to leave the instance will get that penalty, regardless of time spent in the instance. The only way to get around someone getting that with a full premade for roulette is to vote abandon, which you have to wait out that 15m or whatever for (at which point it's like, you might as well just do the instance anyways)
alternatively they were potentially asking about like, a set group of people to go through and run roulettes together each day. Not to try to get specific easy/quick instances, but just to run them regularly together. Which I'm sure exist to varying capacities, like there's a few folks that tend to run roulettes together each day in my FC. But it's not really something that most people would really call a "static"
scenic patrol
Fennek's strats for anything bar Hello World are fine
just modify the patch strat to TTHD
scenic patrol
Close tank Far Tank Close Healer Far healer but DPS is breaking the last tether
scenic patrol
was a bad joke anyhow
pastel cobalt
Real power play is HHHH
Healers do their tethers, then each one rescues a tank or dps to appropriately break their tether
pastel cobalt
When your tank with defamation murders everyone, just say he should have popped sprint 
How long is there between 2nd patch and HW2?
I forget
quick verge
!action rescue
storm frostBOT
quick verge
less than 150 seconds
pastel cobalt
fathom matrix
for o12s, funmental syngery, if i have a 4, was i suppose to be in front?
someone told me to do so in a practice room
dull radish
fundamental* but mm. You'll want it to be lined up like
3 1 2 4
then you swap places after the person in front gets hit