gameplay-discussion

[carmine remnant]

The mace physically drops on the ground and you have to pick it up, except for the Agari

[distant jungle]

Yeah, look for the large glowing mace on the ground, hard to miss so long as you're looking.

[carmine remnant]

The agari's one comes in the mushroom loot.

[lament nacelle]

honestly, im like 5/5 rn on Orst drops

[carmine remnant]

Don't jinx yourself

[lament nacelle]

tho they are all like 3-4 temper

[lament nacelle]

look at my name

it took the devs literally adding Dewlion to every goddamn siege before i got it

[tropic charm]

im 1/6 but everyone i asked kept saying it's guaranteed drop

so i thought they were just going through the floor

[carmine remnant]

Last night, aside from the agari, I went like on a streak of 8 mace knights that didn't drop any with a banneret thrown in there to boot. It's not a 100% drop. Bad streaks can happen.

[zenith knoll]

i'd say it's about a 30% chance, at least for the non-agari bannerets

[knotty moon]

I don't think any of the bosses Bannerets failed to drop one yet, Agari or random spawns.
Normal Mace wielders do have low chance to me.

[carmine remnant]

I had a banneret that did not, last night. In a dungeon.

Their chance may be "high" but it can still no-show.

[lament nacelle]

i feel like the gold boss ones drop them every time... tho all the silver ones have dropped one for me too

[tropic charm]

bro gave up

[distant jungle]

I killed gawth several times and got none.

[carmine remnant]

I think brozime yesterday had an instance where the agari did not drop one for him, but he may have been in cogah and something like that may have influenced it. I didn't see the drop in question, just remember hearing him say it later on.

[carmine remnant]

There it is. Yeah, so even the agari isn't 100%.

It's just high %, and that means a no show can happen.

[distant jungle]

Gawth was the first place I started. Killed him 3 times, no mace.

Cus fk me I guess.

[carmine remnant]

In about 50ish mace drops so far that I've gotten, I've gotten exactly one noble. The rest have been overwhelmingly military and officer.

[dire python]

there's only one Moonsteel Orst in existence and Lord Synod has it

Synod boss fight when DE

[distant jungle]

Fighting Synod sounds like a very, very late thing to happen, funny joke aside.

Unless shit escalates very quickly.

[knotty moon]

Depends, Synod and the Ode might just be central to Midrath story, not necessarily the rest of the game.
(Though I doubt it)

[tropic charm]

new voice line or did i just miss this

[distant jungle]

Nah shadowheart just likes to randomly whisper it directly into your eardrums.

[knotty moon]

Was rare, but it happened.

[tropic charm]

damn

[distant jungle]

Been there for a few preludes, but random.

[knotty moon]

Since the Wylds iirc.

[tropic charm]

i've only had her talk in the login screen before

[distant jungle]

Gotta say that Shadowheart's VA really has that kind of whisper that just like... isn't one? Like they start whispering and you can hear them from the exact same distance as before. Idk how to articulate it, but her voice carries really well.

Really vibrates my damn eardrums sometimes.

She's one of those people who can just whisper without changing her volume.

And this is weird to me.

[carmine remnant]

Yeah, Jen English just has that quality. Love her work.

[fierce fiber]

It feels Kinda wrong to have a new aquired club with 4 tempers, leveling up from the start,
after leveling one with two tempers to the max before (already sold),
while owning the Founders pack and every Founders weapon being lowest Rank <,<

[knotty moon]

I wonder if the autoleveled Maces are a bug or intended.

[halcyon thicket]

Intended

Steve said as much

[tropic charm]

patch notes say that they r supposed to share levels

[knotty moon]

Must have missed it.

[carmine remnant]

Yeah, it's intended. The new system will only require you to rank up any weapon once. Duplicates will share levels.

Right now this only applies to the mace since it's the only new weapon available to test.

[knotty moon]

[patent moth]

Hi guys do i have any way to get a key after yesterday stream?

[primal stump]

intended, can you imagine releveling weapons constantly?

[knotty moon]

If you got the drop you need to claim it from the twitch inventory, then go to Soulframe's Account Management and claim it there too.

If not, next stream is on the 26th, link in the events tab.

[knotty moon]

I fully expected to have to.

[swift hearth]

if you didn't get one from the stream, slide in my DMs, i still have some access keys

[patent moth]

@knotty moon got it thank u brother

[knotty moon]

Have fun.

[primal stump]

yeah, i had to read the patch notes to learn it was intended

[knotty moon]

It was there too?
Just how distracted was I...

[fierce fiber]

but only those of the same rank or smth.
Like i've said - already leveled one (with two tempers) up to max, releveling one with four tempers currently

[carmine remnant]

That... shouldn't be the case?

[fierce fiber]

i dunno. Bug?
I'm gonna see what happens after i got max rank with this one, i'm already on rank 10 with it now

[carmine remnant]

Perhaps it was because you sold the mace and didn't have a copy in your inventory, and thus it didn't "save" the value? That would be a bug. They are absolutely supposed to share mastery rank.

If they didn't this system would be a nightmare.

[fierce fiber]

oh, i have a lot of copies. alsready got two others with military rank, also max ranked, but my 'officer' one is still rank 10 ^^'

[vestal oriole]

what are these white bars?

[smoky crater]

pact and weapon levels

or... xp bars.

[knotty moon]

Exp, upper is the Pact, lower is the Weapon.

[carmine remnant]

The one noble I got shared mastery rank with my others. I first leveled a military, got it to 30, found a better officer about an hour later and swapped to that, it also dropped at 30, and the noble I found (though it wasn't better) also was at 30.

Sounds entirely like you got bugged.

[vestal oriole]

so weapon is max? and pact only halfway?

[smoky crater]

pact halfway to the next level

[vestal oriole]

but it isnt tellign me which lvl they ucrrently are...

[primal stump]

it was essentially a fine print, like, it just looked like image description

[fierce fiber]

aren't those the level bars for primary and secondary weapons?

[smoky crater]

that pops up every time you level it up on the screen

[carmine remnant]

Pact and Weapon. Top is pact, bottom is current equipped weapon.

The bottom swaps when you swap secondary/primary.

[fierce fiber]

NANA nana NANA nana BUGFRAAAME! 😄

if it's this way now... i don't wanna know how it's gonna be for the crafted weapons T-T

[native bramble]

should i ?

[dawn surge]

Never not ring the bell

[vestal oriole]

it drops look sick

[knotty moon]

Yes, worst that can happen is that you die.

[teal orbit]

When can you rebalance the virtues? I just started the game and I can't drag the slider

[smoky crater]

just a minor inconvenience

[zenith knoll]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulFrame/comments/1tbmjnl/anyone_know_why_the_top_left_is_white_instead_of/ so Moonsteel rarity IS a thing but it has nothing to do with craftwork or anything, seems like it's SF's equivalent of Foil cards, purely cosmetic

[pure dome]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jinx-the-cat-jinx-1

[golden junco]

thats kinda cool

[knotty moon]

Need Virtue Liths, found as drop from Agari and Sieges, and I seen one in Rovgot Ruins final chest.
Drop rate seems to be fairly bad.

[native bramble]

guys dont ring that bell

[fierce fiber]

and what exactly -is- the cosmetic part? Silvery Ornament instead of green? 🤔

[vestal oriole]

you are already living on the edge with your non-activated windows xD

[zenith knoll]

apparently

[native bramble]

i think i got lost

[smoky crater]

noooo you're fiiiiiiiine

[teal orbit]

I think I have them but when i click rebalance i can't seem to drag the slider

[smoky crater]

oh the titles now have the descriptions there
huh

[vestal oriole]

activate the trees adn windows to unlock the map

[kind narwhal]

I really wish the lighting wasn't changed I liked the towers being dark candles don't give off that MUCH light

The performance got better tho

[knotty moon]

It ain't getting clicked properly, it should look like this when it goes through.

[golden junco]

is that time accurate for the xp buff or do you think its a glitched number ? (a 23 hours xp boost is dope if true tho )

[knotty moon]

Seems to be true, got them a while and they barely made a dent on the timer.

Though if it is supposed to be 23 hours I have no idea.

They also persist through a relog.

[golden junco]

thank god

[knotty moon]

This ship was a lie...

[wet tulip]

it simply moved. when google maps did the shot the ship was there xD

https://giphy.com/gifs/bollywood-annu-kapoor-2yzDSPGmNWy1GMhDTF

[knotty moon]

Is the ship in the south still there?

[wet tulip]

idk didnt check. because it is useless. its not like you can climb on it

[knotty moon]

Maybe, or maybe I can Bromius it.

[wet tulip]

i do remember at the start of P14 there was a ghost ship south west

[tender bone]

dang it unlucky i didnt get silistavf, how long til sieges reset usually?

[knotty moon]

3 Hours iirc.

[tender bone]

fml

[merry moat]

where do i go to report a bug?? pls and ty

[smoky crater]

#1438224825113120788

[merry moat]

ty

[fallow arch]

wow

[opal fable]

is it even possible to get stock?

[halcyon thicket]

Don't think so

[fallow arch]

impressive but a massive waste of materials lol

[halcyon thicket]

@finite stone how's 6 tempers both sovereign and legendary

[fallow arch]

theres overlap on all of those

[halcyon thicket]

Mb didn't mean to tag

[finite stone]

Haha np!

[halcyon thicket]

I meant genix

I wanted to know from u

[fallow arch]

wow

[golden junco]

shock mines do not screw around, dayum (it one shot me in normal mode aswell btw)

[finite stone]

So yeah I think like Genix said there's overlap, the one thing we don't know for sure is whether 7-8 tempers is a hoax (it's just one image we've all seen) or if it was real

[halcyon thicket]

What, didn't wanna tag u for no reason xd

Ah i see

[fallow arch]

[halcyon thicket]

So the 8 one is unconfirmed

[primal stump]

this sounds like an extra layer of nightmare farm tbh XD

[halcyon thicket]

Cause I did get a 6 today

[opal fable]

the fact that it could be this rare is already very concerning

[fallow arch]

I think its like 2500 damage or something?

[golden junco]

jaysus

[fallow arch]

take it the "drop pod" is new?

[zenith knoll]

yes

[opal fable]

who put his solid gold wall section here?

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440103546900185108

[worldly widget]

Anyone tried adding a joinery to Orst? To me, it shows as if reforge in Tuvalkane but as if not reforged in the inventory

[halcyon thicket]

Nooo keep it it's gold

[lethal narwhal]

Oh wow! Okay I wouldn’t have even realized that. I wish I could go back and check all the ones I sold now

[opal fable]

i wonder what the actual odds are if nobody has posted a picture of the full tooltip yet

[teal orbit]

Do you hold Left Click? Cuz when i do my character spins in this screen

[knotty moon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438223413247479960/1497282142625861634/Soulframe0001.jpg?ex=6a0557e8&is=6a040668&hm=193b8e747d30591826c657062dc549e77c9e3802a96b40a3a3a96370d533a1cf&
Just realized the Armory changed.

[finite stone]

Yeah the person who posted it hasn't responded yet https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1503978420617613312 but they might be busy, will give it a couple days and see if others appear

[knotty moon]

A simple click is enough.

[opal fable]

anyone had the drop pods all just be empty?

[knotty moon]

Yep, can happen.

[opal fable]

so am i doing something wrong or does everything above officer tier have sub 1% drop chances?

[knotty moon]

I have yet to see any above Officer.

[opal fable]

i got 2 nobles, and they both dropped at level 50 mobs

[knotty moon]

It is possible the system is future proofed rather than meant to be dropped now.

Then again, Cogah.

[opal fable]

its gonna really suck if you have to spend hours grinding the cogah level up to get decent drop chances

please just let me skip to level 100 or something

[knotty moon]

Concentrated Wyld Cogah Elixir. 😛

[opal fable]

can't wait for triple distilled carbon filtered cogah

with a little umbrella in the glass

[shadow tulip]

Hey guys. Did p14 add mini quests like p13?

[opal fable]

p14 did, but 14.5 didnt im pretty sure

[shadow tulip]

Thank you. Is there any wiki links or something where i can find the starting point? Didnt find anything online. Maybe i searched wrong

[pure jolt]

bonsoir, c'est bien ici pour proposer des idées ?

[opal fable]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Votive under mini quests

[shadow tulip]

Thank you

[pure dome]

Whats the best armor (mix) besides full mendicaint

[opal fable]

do sieges give ~50% more siege points in cogah?

[knotty moon]

At least in P14 Sieges gave Infamy based on pure RNG (or at least that is the conclusion I arrived at the sheer mess of numbers I was getting).
Cogah is supposed to give more, but not sure if it is 50%.

[opal fable]

i did the first siege which usually gives only 25 and it gave me 38

[knotty moon]

Unless they fixed it, the number it says it is giving you is not what it is actually giving you. (usually a lot more)

[fallow arch]

so cogah gawth fight?

[primal stump]

tbh, i don't think it should give more, at least on a general level. hard modes should not really be the best way to farm something, otherwise it jsut makes everyone focus solely on it and jsut leave the grind numbers all over the place

[opal fable]

has anyone capped out siege points yet?

[primal stump]

i did, an they jsut reset and start over

[knotty moon]

Yes, number keeps growing but the bar doesn't reset.

[knotty moon]

That's just a rank up. It follows the same scheme of the Factions.

[opal fable]

im on the second 20k, and after that i have to do 30k

[primal stump]

but yeah, cogah should jsut be A game mode, not a genral hard mode

[slate adder]

If i sent a game code to a friend, how do they get into this discord? Or does the site have the link?

[knotty moon]

Site should have a link.

[slate adder]

Got it

[gray sand]

anyone know what the best armor is with grace for oscelda bow build?

[opal fable]

orengal set is pretty decent imo

[gray sand]

is the garren set good too?

[knotty moon]

Uh, they touched up Stroaic.

[languid hill]

I just run maestra for grace, mendicant for courage, pensive/wazzard for spirit

[opal fable]

yea its a good set

[slate adder]

So I'm not crazy

[vital sable]

i dont get why the lvl ups always show up at the top of my screen, is this a bug from the current patch ?

[knotty moon]

No idea, they display properly to me, try messing with UI scale and then put it back.

[vital sable]

it was the hud scale.. i hate this, the hud looks so small

default is small, and 20% bigger breaks the lvl up :V

[knotty moon]

Report it, scale should not put stuff out of the screen.

[opal fable]

man its so disappointing how the level 50 golden mace officer drops just the shittiest roll :(

oohh next trash mob dropped a sovereign

[stone granite]

Yeah, we farmed the majority of our drops today in Cogah and there was no difference to normal mode

[opal fable]

and i didn't even min roll, thats nice

thats pretty good right, even the tempers look good

[primal stump]

holy moly that's an amazing one

like, the only thing it could be better on is if that 2nd temper wwas the smite one

[undone prawn]

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[sly matrix]

Mirifuir Boss Cheese 🙂

[knotty moon]

That looks like a lot of effort, this is cheese: #gameplay-discussion message

[zenith knoll]

anyone here with a Legendary mace I can bother real quick?

[dull holly]

last time i asked i was told there wasn't a plan for it yet, but i was wondering if that's changed? will the game e added to GeForce NOW anytime soon?

[knotty moon]

I feel like I'm missing context.

[opal fable]

does geforce now even allow (pre) alpha games?

[fallow arch]

worst I got yet

[halcyon thicket]

Got a sovereign with 6 tempers

[zenith knoll]

i need a legendary specifically sadly

[primal stump]

where did you get it?

[zenith knoll]

i have reasons to believe each craftwork level increases weapon damage by 3 on the stats screen (+6 for charged attacks)

[halcyon thicket]

Dermak entrance near Impidh

[zenith knoll]

and i'm trying to see if it's the same increase from sovereign to legendary

[primal stump]

i think ther eis a legendary floating around in QnA

but yeah, it seems that each tier increase either the attune cap or joinerie bonus, but the base damage remain the same

[stiff arrow]

bye bye 😛

[opal fable]

have people tested how much these tempers actually do? the heavy attack speed one does not seem like a huge buff

[knotty moon]

Best I seen so far:

Breakneck - Heavy Attacks charge more quickly.
Fleet Fling - Increased Throw Speed.
Full Force - Increased Damage and Stagger during Heavy Attacks. (+20 Heavy Attack damage, Stagger NOT counted in stat display)
Galvanic Strike - Adds Voltaic damage to weapon, staggering enemies in area of effect once hit. (+1 damage)
Rejoinder - Increased Damage and Stagger during dodge attacks. NOT counted in stat display
Sullying Force - Increased chance of Smite. (+3% Smite)
Swooning Blow - Increased Stagger while attacking. (+12 Stagger)
Venger - Increased Riposte Damage. NOT counted in stat display```

[sour garnet]

The music is a nice touch

[zenith knoll]

throw speed temper (1st clip without, 2nd clip with)

[opal fable]

throwing speed seems like a really good increase yeah

[zenith knoll]

heavy attack speed temper (1st clip without, 2nd clip with)

[opal fable]

hmm

[zenith knoll]

i'll add that none of the maces had any totems

[ripe bone]

heavy attack temper does seem to be restricted to stat screen only, barrels show it is the same heavy as normal damage calculation would suggest (up to the quality and voltaic flat bonuses)

[mighty moon]

uuuh dear envoys, didnt Orst heavy hit twice yesterday ? am i remembering things wrong ? was I drunk ?

[sly escarp]

Hotfix broke it seemingly

[languid hill]

what I do is run oscelda and save at least 2 rune charges. when the healer spawns I use bestone and rune smite both the shock and fire bosses then use phantom flock and 1v1 the healer

[primal stump]

lowkey feels like you need that temper to actuall get some decent charge speed tho

same for the throw one, it's basicly unviable to throw unless you got that temper, it seem

[zenith knoll]

mace is best built for treefall shenanigans, you won't really get to throw it super often

[fringe tendon]

Just some feedback-First I think Totems should be generic instead of tied to a specific weapon because I've noticed that melee weapons get a heck of a lot more smites than ranged weapons, also for a ranged weapon I think able to retrieve a smite the range needs to be increased because the whole point of having a ranged weapon is to not be close to the enemy

[signal geyser]

Hmm maybe

[distant jungle]

I don't see why totems should be generic. Them not being generic allows them a vector of balance by controlling which weapons gets which effects at what rarities.

Melees smiting more has nothing to do with that.

And now that we have smite distance upgrades via Orlick's quests that other issue is handedly solved.

You can smite out to an absurd distance, easily plenty of reach for any combat scenario.

[smoky crater]

nimrod got bapped sure but what that last guys clothes doooin...

[blissful bramble]

He was trying tk distract you with the view

[native bramble]

what is this ?

[smoky crater]

a drop pod of sorts

[lethal tundra]

We can now see other Envoy's at world trees. How does the match making work?

Has the system not been fully implemented yet?

[primal stump]

wagiii caught red handed with the Sarah asmr

[slow pollen]

you should be able to press an interact button to inspect them and then invite them to party

haven't tried it myself, but did watch the video earlier today - does it not work yet?

[smoky crater]

i didn't even pay attention to the stream at that point honestly

i was just watching/listening to the vod in the background

[primal stump]

they all say that

[smoky crater]

i swear to all that isn't avakot

[opal fable]

are there still issues with putting joineries in the new mace?

[sly escarp]

There hasn't been a hotfix since the last time it was reported, so probably.

[smoky crater]

what.... 4 dogs?

4th one hiding behind envoys head

[opal fable]

man we really gonna need a favourite button if were gonna get a trillion weapons after each session

[smoky crater]

can we also just take a moment to pay respects to bromius' core strength because holy moly

[visual radish]

Just bear things

[upbeat cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-posture-dog-nerd-neck-gamer-gif-5253980438904771239

[smoky crater]

shrimpbear too yeah but like that lean backwards tho..

[wise wave]

Would anyone know what this area, bottom right where I am be called? and how I might get back to the spawn area?

[opal fable]

go north west if you want to get back

[wise wave]

I've also encountered a bug spot where you enter swimming mode in this area that I am trying to get back.

[visual radish]

You just... walk back to it

[signal warren]

Do the actual areas have names or.just the locations

[wise wave]

the area I came from does not allow me to back track.

[signal warren]

I think the sections should have names

[visual radish]

It does all areas are conected

[wise wave]

the door on the other side does not open back up, which was how I got to the current area I am in, in the first place...

[opal fable]

you are in a dungeon, if you exit you can just walk back

[visual radish]

That is an exit

[visual radish]

They are already out

[opal fable]

if you are in the exit load zone you can not go back through the dungeon no?

[wise wave]

That is what I am trying to do, this was the area I exited when I went through the underground spot, but I can not go back in the same way.

[visual radish]

They already exited it

Like out out,
That gap for that particular exit cant be crossed back

[wise wave]

Also bugged swimming...

[visual radish]

Again what is preventing you from just walking back through the outside?

As in through the surface

[upbeat cradle]

nah u just awakened your long lost fey powers fr

[opal fable]

new mace with treefell might be my new favourite weapon, spinning to win is so much fun

[visual radish]

This fog is just on the map it doesnt kill you or anything

[wise wave]

I want to run through the same dungeon to get back to where I originally entered in from, also waited here for like 30 minutes... 😭

[opal fable]

if you wanted to do that you needed to not cross the bridge in the exit load zone

now you just have to exit and walk back over the normal world

also if you want to exit out of the beginning in a dungeon you can interact with one of the respawn stones to teleport back to the start

[sweet cypress]

anyone know what this for

[chilly patio]

That event with the triangles falling from the sky was pretty cool.

Until you needed to play music and the game decided: No, you're not going to play music!
After that, the game crashed.

[smoky crater]

means you have unspent combat arts or pact upgrade points available

[opal fable]

so the rune that speeds up my heavy attacks by 50% is that only for the actual swing and not the windup?

[sweet cypress]

interesting

[upbeat cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/kirara-hoshi-kirara-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-gif-10955110114009096279

[sweet cypress]

nvr saw before

[smoky crater]

was added with P14.5 yesterday

[opal fable]

im very grateful the game keeps reminding me to spent 38 points into a maxed out sword tree

[upbeat cradle]

just to be sure hahaha

[fierce fiber]

got my Answer

[digital turret]

I'm sitting here relaxing.

[fierce fiber]

Giant? Just that far above?
Anyways - 10/10 would do the same.

[vast pine]

has anybody gotten a 9 temper orst yet? trying to figure out what the max possible is

[distant jungle]

Max seemes to be 8, I don't think 9 has been achieved.

And that'd be precisely every temper that exists right now.

[vast pine]

yeah, I got a legendary with 8, was just wondering if that was the max

[dusty hatch]

What'd you mean, there are 8 different attributes?

[vast pine]

there are 9 tempers in the game currently

[distant jungle]

There are 9 different temper effects.

And Legendary can, as far as I know, roll 6-8.

So a legendary 8 would be the peak.

[digital turret]

Just higher up

[dusty hatch]

Ah, so we are hunting the elusive legendary high roll without that one useless attribute. finally and endless grind in the game

[distant jungle]

For me it'd be throw speed probably, given that you can just use a secondary to dispense yeet as needed.

And everything else more directly affects what a heavy weapon is good for.

[vast pine]

yeah, my legendary 8 is missing heavy attack speed, which is annoying

[dusty hatch]

idk, I despise everything with dodge attack. and stagger feels like a useless mechanic currently too

[distant jungle]

I think by dodge attacks it just means attacks chained to your dodge, which uses the same attack as your sprint attack.

I don't think it specifically refers to spectre strikes.

So it'd be a pretty common attack if you dodge ever.

[dusty hatch]

that would be highly surprising tbh. but yeah, then it wouldn't be useless

[distant jungle]

It says dodge attacks so I think that's what it means.

The perfect dodge special attacks have unique animations and are specifically labeled as Spectre Strike.

So it'd be a very obtuse way of referring to that specific mechanic.

[dusty hatch]

io find it more believable that they just forgot to call it spectre strike

[distant jungle]

Honestly that is a possibility but I gave the benefit of the doubt.

[dire python]

ok welp they don't want me fighting Mendicant King today

the bell doesn't work

[distant jungle]

He's eepy.

[raven bridge]

9

oop, wrong chat

[raven bridge]

is it not in cooldown?

[dire python]

the mendicant king is right there

[raven bridge]

yeah, but that happens

especially when doing shares

when you go back to your world to do yours he is sitting there despite not being able to start the fight

thats why you gotta relog to do shares

[sour garnet]

It's his day off, everybody needs a break

[dire python]

also Duelo's gun has more falloff than I thought it would

projectile falloff I mean

[molten mulch]

the new mmo feature on preludes 14.5 is it good ?

[floral yoke]

Can you still freely change factions?

[dire python]

yes

[floral yoke]

Thanks!

[fresh wharf]

Weird question but am I supposed to be facing 5 nimrods at once in brewer of Hues

[dire python]

at the same time?

[languid flame]

Does the wazzard set only drop from the organ?

[dire python]

like there's 5 nimrods existing concurrently?

uhhhhh no you're not supposed to be fighting 5 nimrods at the same time what

[dire python]

yes

[fresh wharf]

Yes

[dire python]

you'd think the wazzard set would drop from the wraith of wastes but nope

[dire python]

skill issue bug

[languid flame]

Yeah it sounds like it would

[fresh wharf]

Pretty sure this encounter has been like this since preludes 11

[languid flame]

What do they call a flock of nimrods?

[fresh wharf]

Pain

[idle elbow]

this is the best i got so far, what about you guys? any luck farming?

[languid flame]

Painrods

[fresh wharf]

People farm these ?

[languid flame]

Yeah different versions can drop

[dire python]

a discharge

what's the best rapier for Duelo? Navalha, Espadarte or Dewelion

[zenith knoll]

tempers-wise it's excellent

though sovereign weapons can get up to 6 tempers

yours only has 4

[dusty hatch]

And legendaries 8

[zenith knoll]

yea

[languid flame]

6 or 7

[zenith knoll]

though it doesn't matter that much in their case

they've got all the tempers the mace wants

[upper osprey]

whut

[smoky crater]

hmmmm. big pockets

[spare badge]

Bug report that. You got a bunch of fragments of Sinner's stratagem, but only picked up 18 of them.

We've seen that UI error before on stuff.

RNG being evil, it didnt' want to give you the 19th one.

[idle elbow]

yeah its good rng on which tempers i got and bad that its only 4, but i prefer sovereign with the 4 exact rolls i wanted than 6 rolls that dont include the ones xD

[torpid hedge]

what is the best leveling-method?

is it still this one dungeon and hoping for the arena?

[weary iris]

hi! sorry if this is a dumb question. im trying to do the fort curtail siege, but i cant seem to actually start it, it wont let me enter the fort. is there a step im missing?

[visual radish]

The enemy with health bar you killed near the beginning of the bridge drops a charge for the broken cannon pointing at the gate nearby

[weary iris]

oh!! that makes so much sense!!! i was wondering what that item was, thank you!

[woven sky]

can some tell a good way to farm rune

[visual radish]

Open chests

[woven sky]

i am not getting it from chest , i only got one from a boss but it didnt respawned

i trying to get one long sword

[visual radish]

Chests, agari and sieges can drop runes

Emphasis on can

[woven sky]

ok thank u, is route i can follow to farm it ??

[visual radish]

Honestly i just wander around, i dont really have a route

[woven sky]

ok

[woven robin]

Are there new locations this update?

[weary iris]

uh... i think a bug just happened at the end of the siege? i got the brazier and lit it but now it wont let me interact with the rope to incinerate the lantern? and when i dropped the brazier it gave me the "end of quest" results as if the siege completed but the lantern hasnt been incinerated yet. is this an actual bug or did i do something wrong?

[main wadi]

i tried to swap my virtue from the one i got form the founders edition i bought right before the new update, but clicking the virtue does nothing. i checked my inventory and noticed the only thing that reflects a virtue is the rebalancing mat. Since i dont want to waste them or get stuck without any, i am hoping maybe i can rebalance and then save it to a loadout? is that what were suppose to do now?

[vagrant kayak]

Yes once you change your spread it gets saved to that loadout slot

[main wadi]

then why not just go back to what we have previously? now its liek the old system but with limited rebalances, making it a nightmare for indecisive ppl like myself

feels like a half measure. i wasnt a fan of virtues but even the last system was whole assed, this one feels halfed

[spare badge]

Because too many noobs were forgetting to spend virtue points.

[main wadi]

prealpha, i know, just wild. ty for the response

[spare badge]

DE cited that as half of the reason for the virtue rework/prisms. The other half being too much courage meta.

They also said that the changes coming about in 14.5 is to get feeback, in case they need to adjust/change things for p15.

[main wadi]

fair, and def other issues but this def aint it. also not the firts time they made a change because of new player confusion. noobs are going to forget things no matter how many guardrails you put up. who wants to play a game playcating to the lowest common denominator lol

ah, well ill put feedbakc in the section below then, i guess. idk, i dont even want to reblance. either mae the virtues a thing or go back and dont, this just feels like the worst of both lol

thanks for the help. ill check back in a bit

[spare badge]

Remember to put your feedback in a topic in #1438224662344761345 to make sure that DE sees it.

[opal fable]

does anyone like the current virtue change, i have seen nothing but complaints about it

[vagrant kayak]

I've seen people be happy Prisms are gone, though I personally preferred them and dislike the new system

But that's why we give feedback https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1504225267919491253

[opal fable]

i haven't really needed to interact with it since i already had loadouts for all aspects and a mixed one

[spare badge]

RL keeps getting in my way. I think maybe cache optimize is done now.

[dawn ivy]

I have a few questions. Why did Soulframe become PoE/Diablo? What's with this update? Honestly, the drop system is a disaster. The old virtues and crystals were great... I'm seriously considering asking for a refund for the Founder's Pack x2, for myself and my daughter...

[sullen fox]

There are a ton of threads about it right now, most people are very unhappy with this call

But check out the Balanced Proposal thread, looks like a system most folks would be happier with

If it gets enough support, perhaps we'll see DE implement something similar

[dawn ivy]

But the existing system was very good... I went to see the proposal, but once again it's not suitable. It's a huge disappointment. It's a far cry from the farming/adventure game that was a beautiful story/adventure. Now it's just a vulgar "hack and slash".

[drifting crescent]

Do you think as the game develops and grows that the end game will ever get like warframe endgame where it's just nuke an entire area?

[wild locust]

how do you activate the smites now?

[sullen fox]

I would never describe whay we have now as vulgar, nor much of a hack and slash so much as a general action rpg. That sounds like a bit of an exaggeration, but I get feeling like it isn't what you exoected

[sullen fox]

Not so long as we continue to keep that at bay via strong feedback

[drifting crescent]

I feel bad I've been around since preludes 9 and haven't had the chance to play much, I barely have 3 zones unlocked and now I'm stuck figuring out if I should just quest and figure the map out as I go or hunt down the trees

[slate adder]

I was from P10 and only had one zone, then P14 came out and it wouldn't stop showing up in my feeds, so I just called it and started again. Honestly don't regret it lol

[sullen fox]

I ran around grabbing all the trees and fighting nothing just to have the map myself

I dont play long hours either, been around since p10 I think? Maybe 11

[drifting crescent]

I bought the founders pack and have just been swamped, now that I'm finally getting a reasonable schedule down I want to transition from warframe to soulframe, I like fantasy more, as my main game

[opal fable]

so from my stats it seems that miltiary and officer together is 97% of the drops

[slate adder]

Nice! My schedule thankfully allows a couple to few hours each night, unfortunately that starts around 8pm or later lol

[drifting crescent]

Saaaaame here lol

[opal fable]

has anyone else tracked their mace drops?

[ivory orchid]

I'm going to start soon.

[crimson void]

hey so ive been confused on something?

[drifting crescent]

Is parrying any different with a shield compared to a great sword?

[crimson void]

ive been seeing people talking about encountering the capitalism camel and the dale seer moose but uh... how are you supposed to know there nearby?

[crimson void]

personally im not too sure i wouldnt be surprised if it was but i cant say with any certainty

[dawn ivy]

And can I talk about the bug with the dueling quest? I arrived by "swimming," and it was impossible to attack or even use a weapon. Seriously... The game is broken... I'm... disappointed.

[molten rampart]

anykey??

[dawn ivy]

i can use potion, call my bird...

but impossible to fight.... and /unstuck doesn"t work

[drifting crescent]

The game in like pre alpha has bugs? Say it ain't so

[dawn ivy]

i'm here since P6

[drifting crescent]

To say you're frustrated with a bug is completely understandable but to say broken is a bit of an exaggeration no?

[dawn ivy]

Too many changes have affected the game's stability, and shouldn't even be left as is. If I had to do the same thing at work, I'd be unemployed within an hour.

[halcyon thicket]

Verify files through launcher

Fixes most problems

[solemn sequoia]

how often does the organ reset? is it every 2 hours like other activities or is it on a different timer?

[halcyon thicket]

3

[solemn sequoia]

hm, its def been more than that but im not seeing any of the animals to save

[sly escarp]

It's likely animation state bug from the recent update. They'll hopefully fix it soon but it only just became an issue yesterday

[dawn ivy]

Done before launching the game right after the update: just to be safe. 🙂 But good idea 🙂

[dawn ivy]

That's what I was saying, haha. Too many changes that have profoundly affected the game. As a precaution, they should roll back to the previous version to analyze the logs. 🙂

[sly escarp]

These are mostly minor oversights that can be easily fixed. Happens all the time in game development, especially when adding new features. Don't think a rollback is needed at all.

The goal of any game in development is to move forward. Short of their framework failing entirely, it's more likely to fix and forge ahead imo.

[opal fable]

is it intended that the crates floating on balloons float away?

i kinda like it

[finite stone]

oh like the normal ode blue ones? not seen that before maybe it's new

[trim oriole]

Anyone found what that new enemy in the codex was?

[dawn ivy]

Ah, I've had that too... the blue balloons that float away for no reason...

[opal fable]

got my 100th orst mace, 3 of them are higher than officer

man these odds are pretty rough

[ivory orchid]

I just finished compiling my 100, posting the stats in a second.

Military - 84
Officer - 15
Noble - 0
Sovereign - 1
Legendary - 0
Moonsteel - 0

Here is the Sovereign's stats:

You're right, this is going to be rough.

[dawn ivy]

Did you eliminate 100 bannerets? Or is that also an additional layer of RNG?

[opal fable]

any mace elite drops them

i hope they look at giving the smith the ability to upgrade them, or maybe a warframe style pity shop

[old burrow]

Can someone explain the new virtue stuff and weapon upgrading like I’m an idiot, because…I think I’m being dense although it seems easy for everyone else 🥴

[opal fable]

its gonna suck for some people if you kill hundreds of them and never see the higher tiers

[fallen socket]

So moonsteel is the highest, good to know

[zenith knoll]

the mace isn't a guaranteed drop (though it's a decently common one on the enemies that drop it)

[zenith knoll]

moonsteel maces can be of any craftwork, it's not tied to that

[opal fable]

hmm funny, you have a lot less officers than i have

[finite stone]

Moonsteel is different to Craftwork:

[opal fable]

i got
Military - 75
Officer - 22
Noble - 2
Sovereign - 1
Legendary - 0

[finite stone]

btw @zenith knoll does the part about moonsteel there ring true to what you've seen as well? Just tooltip cosmetic, not model?

[fallen socket]

So legendary is the target then lol

[opal fable]

legendary with 8 tempers and the correct ones

you know, gotta have at least a couple of rng layers

[zenith knoll]

haven't found someone with a moonsteel mace to see it, only looked at that one reddit thread

[finite stone]

ah cool yeah same, squinting at the images xD

[fallen socket]

What are the correct ones or is it too early to know?

[ivory orchid]

It's like finding a shiny pokemon with perfect IVs. You're not getting a legendary mace with moonsteel.

[old burrow]

Or is it better to ask Reddit?

[opal fable]

there are only 9 currently, and some of them are a lot weaker than others. so you just hope you don't roll the worst one

[opal fable]

what are you confused about?

[zenith knoll]

you could get a moonsteel legendary mace if you're obscenely lucky

theoretically

[old burrow]

I really just sort of need an intro. Does the virtue stuff stick with a loadout or do I have to change it every time? I really wanna go hard between grace or courage or spirit?

[fallen socket]

Ahh good, I have all 9 spread over a few maces so I've got that as a reference for a start

[finite stone]

Your Virtue allocation with the liths sticks per loadout yeah!

[old burrow]

I think in other words, I just don’t wanna screw up and waste my currency before I understand it

[opal fable]

your virtues are tied to your loadout yes, so you probably want 3 of them at least

[opal fable]

i checked my 100 maces and all boring non moonsteels sadly

[old burrow]

Thanks and if I’m mainly just leveling weapons right now should I just think about the upgrade stuff later on?

[opal fable]

your weapons perform better if you can hit the minimum virtue requirements they have

[old burrow]

I’m so used to starting with build guides so having to think it out more. Thanks 🙂

[scenic solar]

well 7 orst-IIIs so far, 1 officer, rest military, no liths

[blissful bramble]

So what I'm hearing is if I want a higher tier weapon (purity my beloved) I have to farm something that drops it?

[old burrow]

I’ve gotten one officer orst so far and that’s all

(That was also just by accident because I’m just running around questing atm)

[opal fable]

anything higher than officer is at most ~3% i think

[scenic solar]

and that officer only had 2 tempers....

aka worthless

[opal fable]

man its gonna be so cool to roll a legendary and get rekt by the minroll and bad tempers

[blissful bramble]

Fr

Rngesus is ready

[spare badge]

Check the wiki for where stuff drops. Farm those sources.

[spare badge]

What's a "lith"? I got a couple of military, a officer, and a noble.

[zenith knoll]

the virtue respec resource

nothing to do with tempers

[blissful bramble]

Bettt

[languid flame]

Anybody got the orst-3 farming location post?

[spare badge]

Naw. I don't gamble.

[scenic solar]

Gawth, every 30 minutes

also using it to track lith drops

[finite stone]

This one? #envoy-gathering message

[solemn sequoia]

is there a way to see how much inventory space you have or do you just have to guess or wait to see when its full

[spare badge]

In the slots tab at Zenith (the camel)

[solemn sequoia]

gotcha, ty

[zenith knoll]

there might be a more optimal farming route but i try to kill all mace bannerettes in the circled areas

the numbers represent how many there are

[vital mulch]

I feel that Runes are a chance drop. Is that just from big boy nameplate enemies? Or is it also from gold glowy chests?* edit sorry

[finite stone]

Which rune? Some are enemy only, some are chests and enemies, etc

[elfin glen]

DE knows how to make a story holy

[vital mulch]

I use the Gwylen staff so I'm after Spirit rune? i think?

[kindred star]

Would anyone know how to equally distribute all virtue points in the virtue prism where all of them are equally divided?

[finite stone]

There's two magick runes, you may want the hollowing which is pretty powerful

Archstorm is easier to find though, Hollowing is cogah loot

[vital mulch]

oh wow ty

[full heron]

😵‍💫

the good ones are WAY too rare...

[severe socket]

hi, does anyone have a code? I want one for my friend

[agile crane]

official reddit page does this game....?

[halcyon solstice]

hi!! I had a question about dungeons. I found myself in one earlier today and is there any loot, or what is the incentive for dungeons? is there ususally a dungeon boss you have to find? I was in there I explored the whole of it (i think) and other than it looking awesome and being fun to get through it felt like there was no purpose to going through it (except for some XP farming and sights)

[blissful ether]

To my knowledge, dungeons are mostly good for farming loot and XP and certain named bosses that only spawn in certain dungeons when accessed by certain entrances. It's a way of farming in a higher density environment for both enemies and containers. I don't know that any particular loot is dungeon-only? Aside from drops from the aforementioned named bosses

If you're not familiar with the design principle from Warframe, dungeons in Soulframe use a "tileset" system where every time you enter a dungeon, it's procedurally generated using certain predefined rooms -- so while the look and feel of a dungeon is the same every time, the actual layout is always different.

So the Undercity dungeon, for instance, uses the Undercity "tileset" and each room you enter is a "tile" in that set -- with certain rules governing, for example, how many rooms it might connect to, what puzzles or other secrets it might contain... every dungeon will always have an exit room where the boss will be, but other than that, a given dungeon may have a certain tile or it may not.

[languid tiger]

When are they going to fix the wevet seed bug

[sly escarp]

Which bug?

[languid tiger]

Where they don't stack. So if I collect 2 today. And collect 3 tomorrow. It only shows I have 3 seeds

[sly escarp]

That's not actually what's happening

The UI is just confusing.

When you pick up seeds, it shows your new total, not amount gained

So if you had 2 and it shows 3, you got 1

[languid tiger]

But it doesn't let me use them I should have like 50+ teleports but I dont

[sly escarp]

There was a stacking bug in like p13 but that got fixed a while back.

[languid tiger]

This morning I had 2 wevet seeds. I grabbed 3 more this morning and my stack changed from 2 to 3

maybe I'm confused

[sly escarp]

How do you know you got 3

You had 2 before right

[languid tiger]

Ill keep an eye on it and see if I'm just confused

[sly escarp]

So when you grabbed the seeds, how do you know you got 3?

There is a reason we ask, we promise.

[languid tiger]

I know what you're saying. All G

[sly escarp]

If it's that you had 2, and picked them and the pop up UI showed 3, it means you gained 1.

The Pop up UI shows total, not gained.

Super confusing but it is how it works

[languid tiger]

Yeah, I had the issue in preludes 13 where I know I didn't use any wevetseeds but the amount would get overwritten or something

So I'd have 2, get a wevetseed then inventory showed 1

[sly escarp]

Ah, yeah, that got fixed

[languid tiger]

Yeah ill check in that I just have to save them 1 by 1 now

[barren gust]

wolf mount cant come any sooner man

[sly escarp]

You get 1-3 at a time so hopefully a bit faster than that

[barren gust]

I dont want to spend 15 minutes running from one end of midrath to the next

[languid tiger]

Just use the orengall pact. Close enough. Lol

[halcyon thicket]

Ask for taxi in recruit chat

[barren gust]

orengall lets you ride wolves?

[languid tiger]

Nah but you can be a wolf and move a bit faster

[jade otter]

God I can't wait until we get our big doggies.

[languid tiger]

Wait wtf

I found Zenith in the wild

1380 minutes of increased experience

[hushed obsidian]

(that's 23 hours)

[languid tiger]

Ive now got 46 hours of increased xp lol

[sharp cove]

Does the buff stack?

[languid tiger]

i hope so lmao

[sly escarp]

Seems to? That or we were playing later last night than we thought

The Virtues buff is also very good

[languid tiger]

Is there any use for Ode Infamy yet

[atomic perch]

why does capitalist camel show up like is it chance or?

[jade otter]

I think Ode Infamy is still just a useless meter, but I am super interested to see what it is used for.

[past drift]

Has anyone actually seen a lith drop yet

[languid tiger]

idek what that is

[naive cloud]

does logging out and back in regenerate votive quests?

[stray fern]

I got the garren rood pact, but i cant equip it. Can anyone help me

[final rock]

its a fragment. you need to craft it to use it.

[languid tiger]

omg I hate the cogah sometimes

[stray fern]

ohhhhh. I haven't gotten far enough then I assume

[languid tiger]

noooooooooooo

wasted cogah, the game buggggged

[blissful bramble]

Ever flame is a heavy rune now?

[woven robin]

Know how much it buffs?

[sly escarp]

Seems like +5 to each

[woven robin]

Nice

[ivory orchid]

I've compiled some data from my mace farming runs. This was without The Cogah active. Legendary and Moonsteel were never found, so their drop chance numbers are guestimates or unknowns.

Military - 80%
Officer - 15%
Noble - 3-4%
Sovereign - 1%
Legendary - 0.1%
Moonsteel - Unknown

[wild locust]

Thanks, i was about to ask what the best quality was

[ivory orchid]

Moonsteel is not a quality, but a cosmetic modifier.

[wild locust]

oh okay

[distant jungle]

Yeh it makes your weapon very slightly sparkly.

[ivory orchid]

The best quality is Legendary, which can have between 4-8 Tempers.

[distant jungle]

The effect is honestly kind of hard to see.

[ivory orchid]

This was the best one I found within 200 mace drops.

Relogging at the southern fort, hitching a ride with recruiting chat to farm Gawth, and the occasional stray mace enemies helped get that number up.

[digital turret]

Which spots did you use for your runs?

[ivory orchid]

This area to the south has a good set of mace enemies that appear on relogging.

Also, one of the Agari, Sinecure Errant Gawth, almost guarantees a drop every 30 minutes. This can be further pushed by having a team in recruiting chat share their Agari.

[sweet quartz]

This seems like a good get

[tender bone]

can sum1 tell me why my health is decreasing in nightfold

[dusty hatch]

Anyone else feel like this entire mechanic goes against everything this game was before? Farming a drop 500 times to get the right rarity + the right rolls is Diablo or Borderlands looter shooter. It makes no sense in a game which wants you to throw away your weapon at max rank and level the next one. I know there will be a new mechanic later on that lessenes rng effect, but still, this is a huge change.

[ivory orchid]

I'm in the same boat. I love a little RNG, but there needs to be a way to bridge that gap with time. If I can't get a Legendary roll in 500 runs, I'd better be able to build it instead.

[quartz obsidian]

Hey guys i just finished grinding I'm gonna try to fight the bear now

wish me luck!

[unkempt gull]

@quartz obsidian good luck!

Can I keep my main weapon from the start or is it better to make new weapons because aesthetically the staff is huge and...not pretty 🫣

[knotty moon]

Every unique weapon you bring to level 30 contributes to your character level, so eventually you will want to get them all.

[unkempt gull]

Mhm mhm okay so basically suck it up lol

[knotty moon]

To be fair you can shove it to the side for now, just don't sell it before maxing it.
(also keep track of what you maxed before, as the game does not do it for you yet)

[unkempt gull]

I'm pretty sure it's maxed out I think

[thorny glen]

any hints on getting Orst-III quick? also is that the only addition as gear this mini-patch?

[knotty moon]

Any Mace wilder can drop it, Bannerets seems to have a higher chance to drop it.
You need to pick it up, it is not auto looted.
There seems to be a bug that will not make the Mace drop if you kill with Smite.
Yes, it is the only gear added.

[thorny glen]

alright, thanks

[dire python]

Do Pacts count towards inventory cap?

[thorny glen]

reading through the prism changes, so we can variable change, and that will be locked for the loadout, right?

[knotty moon]

@dire python
Iirc yes, check the patch notes.

[knotty moon]

Yeah, it is still saved in the Loadout.

[thorny glen]

great, this gives loadouts more value

[distant jungle]

More necessity for anyone who wants to switch virtues, but it's still incredibly annoying as they save everything. Loadouts save character appearance, assigned colors, armor, weapons, pact, everything, so if I use loadouts to switch virtue amounts, then I'd have to fiddle with all of those every single time.

And it still puts pressure against experimenting, and overall just doesn't feel like a good system.

I do hope they listen and remove the cost.

[thorny glen]

do....does the new mace temper ever cahnge?

change?

[knotty moon]

Yes, there are nine possibilities.

[distant jungle]

Yes? It can roll in 5 craftwork tiers and there are 9 possible tempers.

The very highest being a legendary with a roll of 8 tempers.

Legendary rolling from 6 to 8, or so the wiki says.

[thorny glen]

its nice that the mace drops as is, so its random what 3 virtues it gets?

[knotty moon]

Breakneck - Heavy Attacks charge more quickly.
Fleet Fling - Increased Throw Speed.
Full Force - Increased Damage and Stagger during Heavy Attacks. (+20 Heavy Attack damage, Stagger NOT counted in stat display)
Galvanic Strike - Adds Voltaic damage to weapon, staggering enemies in area of effect once hit. (+1 damage)
Rejoinder - Increased Damage and Stagger during dodge attacks. NOT counted in stat display
Sullying Force - Increased chance of Smite. (+3% Smite)
Swooning Blow - Increased Stagger while attacking. (+12 Stagger)
Venger - Increased Riposte Damage. NOT counted in stat display```

[distant jungle]

Its scaling and req do not change, the tempers do.

Anything to do with virtues will remain constant.

[knotty moon]

Also Joinery doesn't seems to work on it right now.

[thorny glen]

looks solid

lol you can jump while swimming to go faster

oblivion physics

[distant jungle]

I just tested the smite thing and it's incorrect.

Killed a few mace ladies by smite and got 2 mace drops.

Maces are just never guaranteed.

[thorny glen]

great, now i have to get EVERY mace combination :P

[knotty moon]

There is also a cosmetic variation, the Moonsteel drop, which changes the corner leaves in the tooltip to silver.
(apparently only shows up in the Armory, in the inventory it is still the normal leaves)

[thorny glen]

is that the same drop pool?

[distant jungle]

It makes the weapon very slightly sparkly, hard to notice unless you really stare.

[distant jungle]

It can drop on any craftwork rarity.

Just a separate layer of RNG.

[knotty moon]

Basically we got shinies, literally.

[thorny glen]

that's nice to get but not that much if i'm looking for 100% gear

since one mace at 30 is the limit to account xp

though it feels like i'm gonna have to sell so many maces later on

and the chance to get a shiny mace with horrible temper combo

[knotty moon]

Yeah, and beware of misclicks.

[ruby ocean]

So they added swimming AND flying

[thorny glen]

nice jump

[ruby ocean]

it is not a jump

u can literally fly

[distant jungle]

Also be ready for frustration.

There's a pretty common softlock that has a chance to happen every time you sell an item.

This can happen both selling via camel and via inventory.

[thorny glen]

softlock how

[distant jungle]

Common enough to happen several times in a row if you're unlucky.

[thorny glen]

liek menu stuck?

[distant jungle]

It'll say it's processing the sell and then just remain on that screen.

[thorny glen]

ah

[distant jungle]

Forever. Allowing you to do nothing but stare at it spin.

[thorny glen]

or relog

[distant jungle]

Until you give up and close the game.

[distant jungle]

Yeah lol.

[thorny glen]

i bought the extra 50 spaces for 150 arc as a start

"welcome to prelude 15"
"HELP ME I'm DROWNING IN 60 USELESS MACES!"

[distant jungle]

Apparently selling at avakot allows you to bulk sell at any amount and bypasses the bug somehow, but-

[thorny glen]

but you gotta find him

[distant jungle]

When using avakot to sell, you don't get to see the UI of that item, meaning you don't know which mace you're selling.

[thorny glen]

temper randomness is fine for some random drops but i refuse to farm boss drops with that in them

i'd rather have purity always have the same set of good tempers than farm the king for days on end

i want the balance to be "boss drops are amazing for this build but a perfectly rolled temper mace does 5% more dmg on average"

[knotty moon]

To be fair Temper transferring is supposed to be a thing in P15, will need to see how that system works.

[thorny glen]

imagine it stacks and you put 3 "Venger - Increased Riposte Damage." on a heavy weapon, one ripost can oneshot a boss

[knotty moon]

Doubt it, most likely duplicates are not allowed.
At the very least I didn't see a Mace drop with doubled up Tempers.

[thorny glen]

you never know how they will impliment temper transfer

maybe its forma rules and it doesn't matter

[knotty moon]

Fair.

[thorny glen]

though

if you do GET a shiny mace or new weapon, with horrible tempers, it good to keep to replace tempers and use as main for flair

[knotty moon]

Let's hope it doesn't reset the level.

[thorny glen]

depends, since the point of resetting a weapon is that you've improved its power to a degree

not sure if temper perks count as a significant power boost

[knotty moon]

To be fair with the new buff it is fairly fast to max out a weapon.

[thorny glen]

in comparison, temper perks are 50% weaker than a forma power scale

say, if you put 3 forma, your weapon is basically full power, but 3 tempers would at most make it 20-25% better

but yea, i want boss drops to have a certain set of good perks, even a unique one if possible

like a stronger throw (non transferable)

[knotty moon]

I'll trust you on that, the only thing I remember from the Forma system is that it turned me away from WF on how much it restricted experimentation.

[thorny glen]

yea mods back then were....not that impactful

now that i think about it

if they add temper transfer next patch

i will NOT bother spending time getting them to put into boss drops

too much time

if they updated them to have a unique set for each and you can change one or two from them then i'll use them

[knotty moon]

Depends on if they only accept transfers from identical weapons.

[thorny glen]

oh hell no

i'm not farming the deer weapon again

[knotty moon]

If I can use Sollos to get Tempers on Purity it isn't much of a problem.

[thorny glen]

i can accept HEAVY weapon tempers

being unique set only for heavy weapons

[knotty moon]

🤔
That could work as well.

[thorny glen]

and bow derop tempers to bow weapon

so these maces temper can be used to put on Purity

but not shields or long blades

i assume shields would have better parry and block perks

and bows to have....bow stuff, that would make more sense than "farm more Purity to replace purity tempers"

[scenic solar]

has anyone made a list of the new Points of Interest?

[thorny glen]

new?

like 14.5 new?

[knotty moon]

Yeah, there are supposed to be, haven't found any yet though.

[thorny glen]

...i'm gonna skip that till prelude 15

[knotty moon]

Storiac was touched up though.

[thorny glen]

i'm already done getting ONE mace for now

[scenic solar]

https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/11458-soulframe-preludes-145-oden-tempers/

Betwixt falling skies and the wandering of ghosts and gods, Alca’s denizens have much to uncover in the verdant greens of Midrath. World Trees offer glimpses into Envoys beyond, a Midrath not of your own.

Don your rags or don your armour in reservoirs abundant—Envoys can now swim in Midrath’s waters! 

So, go forth, Envoy; see what lurks and wanders, and what Midrath has new to offer.```

[thorny glen]

i mean

i swam to the north-western island now

[knotty moon]

Unless that is referring to the marked Bannerets you get by intercepting the random messengers.

[scenic solar]

Unless they literally just meant the 16th tree

[knotty moon]

Also that.

[scenic solar]

which still has nothing there

[knotty moon]

Steve did mention it as well. "You can now reach an area that you could only get to through glitching." or something along those lines.

[thorny glen]

its got grass now

and some trees

[thorny glen]

yea, the island'

[knotty moon]

Do the ODST not appear in Cogah or am I just unlucky?

[distant jungle]

Okay the coolest thing about Tempest's Gravitate is that it apparently makes no noise.

[thorny glen]

the what

[distant jungle]

You can grapple to someone's back and chain into a stealth finisher.

[thorny glen]

well. by that logic, bear buttslam is also silent

[distant jungle]

One of Ode Tempest's passives, the good one.

[scenic solar]

A passive Ode Tempest has

[knotty moon]

Orbital Drop Shock Troopers (halo reference).

[scenic solar]

Ode Tempest's other passive is effectively useless

[thorny glen]

many such cases

[distant jungle]

The problem is it adds flat damage.

And only like, 60? 80? At max rank, on ground finishers only.

If I'm ground finishering someone they're probably dead anyway.

[thorny glen]

ground finishers are a "winmore" effect, you're already winning so hard they fall down, no need for more dmg than that

[distant jungle]

It makes sense with new Tempest being aggressively stagger-focused, but is still entirely redundant.

And also just got of meh even if it wasn't.

The grapple is actually an amazing movement tool and makes up for the fact that Seismor is kind of whimpy.

[thorny glen]

i want them to add an excecutioners axe, with like 500% more ground finisher dmg

[distant jungle]

Now that both other arcanics don't get instantly turned off against a boss.

Making Tempest a pretty alright pact now.

[thorny glen]

executioners axe with low stagger, and slashing dmg, if your friend or pact makes them prone, you execute them

also the image of 4 people with 2handed executioners axe entering a dungeon is grim

[slim bramble]

Gotta have a perk or something that knocks enemies over

[distant jungle]

Neither of these had enemies in them.

I was... somewhat disappointed.

They just fell out of the sky, popped open, and nothing.

[thorny glen]

it's part of a bigger puzzle

[untold valve]

can someone tell me if there's a rune x totem bug I can't set or access the runes page for my weapons

[distant jungle]

For some reason they took the 'right-click on weapon' function away and you now have to equip that weapon and then press the rune symbol next to it.

Idk why, but that's how it be now.

[untold valve]

i am confusion

[distant jungle]

Only in your equipped slot.

Again, no reason for the change, but that's how it be now.

[distant jungle]

Also hello sonic lmao.

[untold valve]

im confused as to how you even got it to show up lol

[distant jungle]

Mousing over it.

[wide escarp]

Could someone get me a key?

[untold valve]

i tried that, from the tent tho correct?

[untold valve]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i seee nowwww

ty

[languid tiger]

Why do they make any cogah boss 1` tap you

like come on

[barren gust]

sounds like a job for garren rood lol

[icy tulip]

how do you remove items out of your inventory?

[plucky junco]

if you mean to sell them, some of them you should be able to just by right clicking the icon

[knotty moon]

Camel, Avakot, or just open the inventory and right click on stuff.

[compact marsh]

What kind of build are you using?

[icy tulip]

Right clicking doesnt do anything?

[knotty moon]

You should have a prompt.

[compact marsh]

What if they're talking about materials you use for crafting, because if that's what they mean then you can't drop them out of your inventory like a normal survival game

[icy tulip]

oh right cool thanks for the help

[icy tulip]

Cool thanks for clearing this up, it makes sense now, a lot of items I realise are not complete thats what was confusing me, sorry for the noob questions!

[compact marsh]

It's okay

[reef arrow]

Can i have it on another items ?

[silent bone]

is it just me or does the Orst spin attack register only one hit?

[knotty moon]

Yep, was bugged with H1, it hit twice before.

[knotty moon]

In P15 it will be a more generalized system, for now it is Mace only.

[lime granite]

Can some1 help me out with understanding the new system for weapon quality?
So lets say i have Purity greatsword lvl 30 (i think the quality is common)
If i craft another one, will it then be a better quality or what exactly determines the quality of it?
I know the new mace has more than one quality, but what about existing weapons?

[reef arrow]

ty

[knotty moon]

The quality system is only applied to Maces right now.

[wide escarp]

Could someone get me a key?

[knotty moon]

It determines how many slots for Tempers (the perks) it can have.
Though it can roll under the max.
In P15 the plan is that you can transfer Tempers around, but that sytem is not in yet.

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message

[lime granite]

Ah i see. I assume weapon quality will be for all weapons down the line, but hopefuly its easy to "upgrade" the quality of existing ones and not farm and lvl them again all over

[knotty moon]

Level is shared, so if you level one the next you drop should still be at the same level.

(or it is supposed to, but sometimes it bugs out apparently)

[lime granite]

Ah perfect, ty for the help!

Oh also, will progress made in preludes be somehow transfered to the steam version?

[distant jungle]

Preludes progress will seamlessly transfer both to beta and full release.

[knotty moon]

Yes, no reset are planed, and the game will be crossplay as far as I know, no difference in account progress should be there.

[distant jungle]

And steam is less a version and more so a platform it'll just come to, it'll still use its own launcher like WF.

So no difference there.

[lime granite]

Ah thats great to hear!
Yeah i use steam for everything thats why i asked 😁

[finite stone]

The greatsword one got updated to heavy (just a name change to let you use it on other heavy weapons); and the long blade one is still the same 😄

[blissful bramble]

Ahh

I don't even know how to temper my weapons yet, I'm still struggling to find salzhbrim

Or however it's spelled XDD

[finite stone]

You don't temper them yourself, they're randomised traits that can drop on the new Orst-III heavy mace from certain sinecure carrying it! It's a sneak peek at the wider system that will come for other weapons in P15

For Salzbrim, you want to keep an eye out for a village by some big thin rocks on the western coast of central Midrath - it's north of Hilly-Den if you've been there

[blissful bramble]

Ohhhh, so it's just the mace that drops with those rn? XD That makes a lot of sense, now I gotta find what drops it and relentlessly hunt it down lol

[blissful bramble]

ohh ok, I think I can find that, I remember my buddy had silent rose as his enclave so I kinda remember the terrain

[distant jungle]

Anyone that's holding it, you just pry it from their cold dead hands.

Not a guarantee to drop though.

But yeah, bannerets that have it, random mace ladies, etc.

[blissful bramble]

Ahh, makes sense. I found a big guy with one, he just died and did not give it to me lol

[distant jungle]

Yeah that hap.

[blissful bramble]

Gotta keep running in circles around the map I guess XD

I'm new to this type of game and there's very little hand-holding so I'm kind of just running around flailing at things with my sword XD

[dire python]

the fact that enemies now get sent flying when you kill them has added a comedic value to Duelo flintlock I never knew I needed

[knotty imp]

best one is Ode getting pancaked into the damn ground with the new mace

[lament nacelle]

if you kill them with the poke from the club, they go flying like you just punched them in the stomach and you have super strength

[tepid chasm]

It's great, also makes treefell that much more fun to use with Purity or the Orst. There is something truly satisfying about watching a whole group of sinecure ragdoll away after you slam with with a really big sword or mace.

[knotty imp]

if we can't have realistic dismemberment, then I'm all for outrageous death animations

[distant jungle]

It's a little too loony toons for me. When I cut someone they shouldn't be backflipping through the air.

The old ones were pretty okay, they kind of just, you know, died.

Instead of being bodily yeeted away for some reason.

[tepid chasm]

I mean Warframe has pretty graphic dismemberment, I can't imagine us not getting at least some of that

[distant jungle]

Yeah no reason for SF to not end up M too.

I see no reason to swerve away from that.

[dire python]

Soulframe already has swearing they could just take that step

[blissful bramble]

I love my yeet gun

Also I can't believe I got s stupid compass backwards

I just scoured the entire east side of the island... when I needed to be on the west

[knotty moon]

You can pretty much decimate the body of enemies with Bestone.

[golden junco]

does the level of the mace enemy affect the quality of the maces ?

[knotty moon]

Yes, or at least it is supposed to.

[fallow arch]

doesnt seem to

[golden junco]

gotten 20 ish maces the highest quality i got so far is officer

[fallow arch]

same in cogah

[golden junco]

Im guessing that shouldn’t be the case

[ripe bone]

ive had better luck in cogah relative to normal mode, but its hard to tell since rng

[lean shadow]

Yeah. I get they getting yeeted away for a small distance when struck by heavy blunt attacks. Otherwise, it was fine with what we had

[gleaming vortex]

is there way to see my inventory max slot number?

[gleaming vortex]

that 48 seems to indicate i have 48 slots left, so i guess my max slots is 150 now.
edit: with my 102 items in storage, not to confuse with the arc cost.

[knotty moon]

Just to be clear, the 150 in that is the cost (adds 50 iirc).
The 48 being how many you have left is correct though.

[scenic solar]

So for the loadout cheesing for virtues, how are people setting it up?

[warm gazelle]

how to release souls? im in my inventory but dont see the option

[knotty moon]

Need to do it from the totem UI menu, go to the Armory and click on the rune slot of an equipped weapon.

[warm gazelle]

you cant choose how many you release? it gets rid of all of them?

[knotty moon]

As far as I know it releases one at a time.

Unless it was changed.

[subtle salmon]

Do we know if the current joinery items will be tied to granting specific tempers for weapons in p15?

[dull holly]

Im just wondering the there’s any plan/date for the game to release on geforce? Last time i asked there wasn’t but that was a little while ago so im just checking again

[knotty moon]

I have no idea what Geforce is, since I'm fairly sure that you are not referring to a GPU.

That said there is no plan to release it anywhere anytime soon, the closest release is most likely Steam, and before it gets out of the Preludes it probably isn't going to consoles either.

Once it gets to Steam I would speculate it is close to getting ported, so it might be a possibility at that time.

[knotty moon]

We have no idea how anything will work in detail, though I doubt it.

[halcyon thicket]

GeForce Now is a streaming service for games

[rich dune]

...

Combat control is not working.

[knotty moon]

Need to learn combat swimming from Link I guess.

[mossy summit]

QUESTION: is the game only open to buy through patreon? and are they going to release anymore pre-access codes?

[knotty moon]

Game isn't on Patreon as far as I know, bewere scams.

[viscid sandal]

what patreon? sf isn't on patreon

[mossy summit]

excuse me. its on their website it just says join our patreon

[knotty moon]

That said, you can read this: #gameplay-discussion message
For ways to access the game, (one of the option is to get Founders, but not the only one).

[rich dune]

Just get key on their twitch streams or via site reg.

[knotty moon]

https://www.soulframe.com/
This is the site?

[viscid sandal]

what I mean is to have access to the game, sorry if I didn't clarify that

[mossy summit]

yes, and it just tells me after i downloaded it i dont have access yet

[knotty moon]

Follow the Link in this message, it will explain how to get access, on the event tab you can find the schedule for the next stream if you go that way.

[halcyon thicket]

Where did u read the word Patreon tho

[mossy summit]

paragon*

[knotty moon]

Possibly a translation?

[halcyon thicket]

Oh

[mossy summit]

its early guys sorry

[knotty moon]

Oh, that make sense, that's one of the Founders pack.

[mossy summit]

PARAGON***

[knotty moon]

There are also the individual packs that cost less under it.

[halcyon thicket]

U can buy founder packs for instant access

[mossy summit]

in there now!!!

[crisp dagger]

I mean it does make sense, there are little puddles on the deck so ofc ur swimming

[rich dune]

It doesn't make sense becaue it's a bug (:

[crisp dagger]

shhht ur swimmin dw bout it

[knotty moon]

No, no, he has a point.

[signal warren]

I did finally get the last to moranite I needed to craft duello

I just love that first spell is gun

[knotty moon]

Best Arcanic in the game, hands down.

[signal warren]

I played around with it a lil bit yesterday but I'm gonna level it today after work

god I hope there's stuff on the skill tree to reload faster

[knotty moon]

Nope, but it is fairly fast anyway, even on minimal Spirit.

[signal warren]

ye

[carmine cypress]

Has anyone figured out how the little soul sparks/lore fragments work in the newest dungeon? The ones that reveal bits of the area's story when you collect them. I’ve run this dungeon a lot, but I’ve only seen them appear maybe 2 or 3 times. Is this a bug, intended behavior, or does their spawn depend on something specific? On regular maps, there’s usually one every time you enter the area, but that pattern doesn’t seem to apply here.

[signal warren]

which is the newest dungeon

[knotty moon]

Theory goes that the Pensive set makes them spawn more.
That said they also spawn on a significant time delay, in the rooms where Wazzard speaks.
My suggestion is to clear the dungeon of enemies, then backtrack to the entrance from the Wyrm room spamming Pull Smite.

[carmine cypress]

Rovgot ruins

[signal warren]

ooo how get to

[knotty moon]

Also might need to relog after getting a run with motes.

[lament path]

South east corner in the corrupted zone

[signal warren]

ohhh ty

I'll try it out later when I'm home from work :)

[sinful scarab]

anyone else have longer loading time when exiting a dungeon?

[knotty moon]

Not that I noticed, but I didn't time it either.

[rich dune]

Ok. Nevermind.

[carmine cypress]

Just tried doing a full clear and then running back through the empty dungeon. The method definitely doesn’t seem to be 100% reliable. I’ll probably drop this idea until future fixes, because at this point I’ve collected more shield crafting fragments than lost pieces of lore/history 🙂

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️
I did it fairly fast during P14, usually two spawns per run, though it is not assured.

Only other thing I could suggest is to wait 5 min afk at the end of the dungeon to ensure they spawned, if any, before backtracking.

[carmine cypress]

ah, got it, will try later! one more time thank you for the suggestion.

[half loom]

Other than going to the cash shop, how can you tell how many of the 'real' inventory slots you have left?

[knotty moon]

I don't believe there is a way unfortunately.

[half loom]

Hah, okay... That's what I was thinking but good to know...

[knotty moon]

Thought I found another note...

[coral bramble]

What are these new lines under my abilities?

[smoky crater]

top line = pact xp, bottom line = currently in-use weapon xp

switches when you switch between your primary and sidearm

[coral bramble]

Thank you

[knotty moon]

Anyone can show me a screenshot of the tooltip of a Noble, Sovereign, or Legendary Orst without Virtue attunement (under the requirement)?

[reef arrow]

what is it ?

[knotty moon]

23 hours buffs, persist through relogs.

[rich dune]

useless, out off overall UI design addition

in my opinion 😅

[reef arrow]

Is it possible to get multiple copies from other players?

[knotty moon]

Useful indicator, design could be iterated upon. 😛

[rich dune]

It doesn't even disappear when you've fully upgraded the pact/weapon.

[knotty moon]

You can have all three, Omen Beast spawn randomly, you can get them all solo.

[spare badge]

Are there areas they spawn in? Or is it just randomly anywhere?

[knotty moon]

Random, as far as I know.

[spare badge]

RL really didn't want me to play yesterday. Stuff kept coming up every time I thought I was done with stuff for the day. The, I played for an hour and got a migraine... Hopefully today lets me actually get some game playing in.

[ripe bone]

they might have candidate spawn locations like how plants works but we dont know all of them yet

[lucid orchid]

Where i download soulsframe?

[spare badge]

So, if I run across any, it's probably a good idea to get a screenshot of where. Always happy to help spading this sorta stuff.

[spare badge]

The soulframe website.

[ripe bone]

was thinking about setting up a collection page in the wiki discord, i have an idea

[rich dune]

👋

[ripe bone]

ello

[supple trench]

Hey guys, were there an update within the past 2 weeks?

[gleaming vortex]

i keep stuck at this when selling orst anyone same?

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1503834726237077534

[knotty moon]

Known bug, I think you have to relog.

[wind ether]

almost everytime my friend , i have to restart whole game

[supple trench]

ohhhhhhhhh gotcha

[languid flame]

Anybody else getting softlock in mirifuir. During the beginning where you have to get a drop to go up from the sewer. I got softlocked down there cause one of those random enemy encounters with the blue laser wall just pops up and doesnt go away.

[knotty moon]

Nightfold, usualy brings down the wall.

[atomic lynx]

add to this thread
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1504409044327206962

[fallen socket]

Where's the best place to farm maces and should I do it in Cogah?

[knotty moon]

Southern castle seems to have lots of Mace wielders around.

[fallen socket]

Great, that's where I've been lurking 🤣

[languid flame]

Ill try it again once I play today and see if I can get a screenshot to add with it

[knotty moon]

If nothing else they do know it happens, they got the bug on the stream. 😛

[long sierra]

so just to make sure, there is no inventory space like in warframe right? where we have to buy them to gain more

[languid flame]

Oh lmaoo I haven't watched the VOD yet but thats good (that they know its there not them getting the bug)

No you still do

[knotty moon]

There is, but it works differently now.

[languid flame]

Up arrow

[spare badge]

Orengall found. Over here.

[long sierra]

oh how come? i just came back from the game

[knotty moon]

Pacts, Weapons, and Armor (but not Talismans) occupies inventory slots, and you can check how many you have left at the Camel.
A purchases of Slots gets you 50 (for 150 Arcs).

[long sierra]

ahhhhhh yeah i see it now, have they added any way to get more of the arcs? since we cant really trade rn

[knotty moon]

Not atm.

[languid flame]

But with an atm

[knotty moon]

They did mention trading in the stream, so possibly in P15, or SOON™ after.

[spare badge]

Not yet. Trading is coming in p15, as per what Steve said on the stream before the 14.5 update.

[languid flame]

Did they mention what we will be able to trade?

[spare badge]

Yes. Go watch the video.

[long sierra]

zamn... well guess i just have to tuff it out and hope that i can get every armor and weapons in my inventory with just the free arcs they gave us

[languid flame]

Anybody got sparknotes

[spare badge]

#soulframe-news message

[knotty moon]

They did say that quite a few times, last stream (the Steve one) was the latest time.

[spare badge]

WTF is "sparknotes"?

[knotty moon]

I want it to be a funny name for Arcs, but no idea.

[languid flame]

It was a study guide website I used in school.

and when anybody missed a class we'd ask for the sparknotes

[spare badge]

When I was in highschool, most of the computers weren't internet capable, and the ones that were used dialup.

[knotty moon]

So, basically, cliff notes?

[languid flame]

Basically

[knotty moon]

New Mace with RNG perks.
You can take a bath.
More overworld encounters and more variations of them.

On the technical side a new render system for trees, that will be expanded to grass later on, was mentioned.
Not savy enough to know what any of that meant, but I assume good things.

[languid flame]

Oh I knew about that part of the update. I was wondering more about the trading system part. Thanks anyway

[knotty moon]

Oh, it was an off hand mention, didn't really go into details.

[dapper garnet]

Is this good ?

[knotty moon]

Seems so, I generally prefer to have the Smite Temper, but a Noble drop is nice.

[languid flame]

Gotcha, yeah imma just have to watch the vod

[spare badge]

It's better than the noble I have.

[ivory orchid]

No one is beating that one dude's day 1 Legendary roll with 8 Tempers...

We can only dream.

[knotty moon]

At least someone else got one too.

[gleaming vortex]

is this six perks or it only shows six

[knotty moon]

Last two are on the bottom right, outside the tooltip UI.
Bugframe.

I got a visit from Sinecure Superman.

[halcyon thicket]

I got 8 tempers today