#gameplay-discussion
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I uuhhh, depends on how many hits it takes to kill an enemy, how close those two totems are is kind of funny.
DR is purely flat, so Creator is just +12 damage after the first hit, as it's a debuff that applies on hit.
Current would be +10, slightly less, but also include the first hit.
Creator would apply to all attacks, including heavy attacks and Arcanics. Current would not.
Though I'm unsure if Current would apply to heavy attacks, as idk what they mean by 'primary cast damage'.
Totems like that already do not apply to your other weapon, which suggests it's differentiating something else.
I'd consider both of the former above Bromius cus Bromius is a lil lacking after Rump Thump got nerfed a bit hard.
That really depends on what playstyle you like, Duelo is great if you like getting into melee combat and doing lots of dodging (also gun)
Garren is more of a caster Pact, giving you big single hit damage/heals and a great AoE and CC option
Bromius is good if you enjoy being a huge tank and doing lots of stagger damage
But I wouldn't consider either Duelo or Garren outright better than the other. Duelo has more single target, Garren better CC.
i love casting im magik main
with the busted odiac
if you havent used the sidearm odiac ur missing out lmao
im trying to get the odiac pac
just a really long grind
If you like a caster style of play then Garren may be more your speed. Like Mora's Hand and Oscelda, it tends to use all of its arcanics at fairly equal rates, so it leans on arcanic casting harder than several other pacts.
anything cooler than garren more skill based by the player
I wouldn't call it busted, Esthelle is slightly better as a secondary and primary magick weapons are significantly better.
Yeah I was just responded to that claim of Odiac being busted. If you want a more 'skill-based' pact, you'd be looking for the ones that lean on weapons harder, as that relies on your actual ability to handle the combat mechancis well, rather than just cast and forget as things die.
So you'd be looking at stuff like Tethren and Bromius.
Maybe Duelo.
Silistavf
The two best ones are Seathorn, being better at heavy attacks by a large margin, and Silistavf, winning out in lights.
It's what the odiac wants to be when it grows up
Silistavf is gotten through that siege, yes.
Seathorn just from T3 votives at an obnoxiously low rate.
how do i donate the baskbulbs to my faction? Did they remove that? im capped in my inventory and dont know what to do with them
you can sell to factions
Go talk to the Enclave leader, click "Where do I stand" to open the standing store, then in the top there's two tabs, buy and sell. If you hit sell you can donate your Baskbulbs, Sineculum and Sinner's Stratagems
you guys are awesome thank you
I was clicking donate and lil bro was telling me it doesnt work like that lmao
chat is it just me or is the loadout ui completely porked
nvm it was just glitched out
is the fungal lord quest also bugged for others? i'm stuck at this and relogging/restarting doesn't help :(
It's not progressing when you gather Toe of Ode or Neathcaps?
somtimes it be showing random things
nope
Definitely make a bug report in #1438224825113120788 or add onto an existing one 
i thought the everflame rune was for swords, now they are for maces? did they change that?
Its for the Weapon Art "Heavy", formerly Greatswords. Since the last patch it includes Greatswords and Maces
ah ok, so i cant use it with Igne Mora anymore
You never could
There's two different Everflames, a Long Blade one and a Heavy one
Long Blade goes in Igne Mora, Heavy goes in Orst-III, Purity, etc...
lmao, never registered that. This is an oversight by the devs, isnt it?
Believe it's intended, though it is an outlier since the other melee flame runes all got new names
alright, thanks for the info, then i try to find the other one
It drops from Mendicant King and the Kearnhold Siege boss IIRC
yeah it dropped in Kearnhold for me, but was the mace type
is there anyway i can just reset all my progress so far
Not currently no, an optional reset has been talked about but not available at this time
so would i have to get another code and make a new account?
If you wanted to fully start over then currently yes, though with that said all Fables can be replayed (latest one may not be yet) so unless you specifically want to check new player progression there's no reason to full reset
well my character seems to do nothing in combat so i think i made the wrong choice somewhere along my 3 hours of gameplay
Oh that's unlikely tbh, more likely you're just in an higher that's a bit too high level for you, or your current Virtue spread doesn't work with your weapons.
You can redo your Virtues in the arsenal by hitting the respec button and match the Virtue of your weapon, should help damage
if he just started, I doubt he even has liths to respec with? does it even give you those on a fresh account?
You get some just for doing the Fables so yes
And I do think you get 5 to start with regardless
well the game gives me no indication as to what to do, where to go or where I can find anything i need
You should talk to Orlick in your Nightfold
since P14 he has a series of quests to introduce the game's systems and mechanics, also gets you some good rewards
he tells me i need a rune
i dont have a rune
Open some chests with golden glow, they drop the basic Runes
You can equip them by clicking on a small empty circle next to your weapons in the arsenal menu at your Nightfold
You can also check whether you have any in one of the inventory tabs
Alternatively, run a siege or interact with the mushroom left behind by some of the bosses
Can anyone confirm if dungeon entrance icons not showing on the map, when finding/clearing them is a bug? I’ve got a couple that I’ve run through a few times but the location icon just won’t appear on my map
i dont think they all are on the map
currently
There are I believe 2 locations that won’t show up on the map. Port/dungeon by oro’s well and the old well entrance are the ones I’m thinking.
im so confused im looking uo a verminia tutorial and the map looks completely different i have no idea where the place the tutorial is showing even is
What tutorial are you looking at? It's probably a very old one, judging by the old pre-P9 world map
Ah yeah there’s been some map changes.
There’s a ||tree dungeon behind fort curlail that is the start. Listen for the loud squeaky rat and read the note next to it||
Old well entrance is now an exit
Booooo
Ooh interesting fact! It was made an exit, then it got made an entrance again
The new entrance is the hole in the ground next to the ruin stairs
(I think in P14)
Ooh they fixed it????
Yay!
We were very sad when they un-entranced it
Yeee so Avakot's no longer selling his gots at a complete dead end down the well now hahaha
I've come to a 🤦 realization. the map itself is divided into sections by border walls with gates guarded by Ode'n soldiers as a way to divide lower tier areas from higher tier ones. Go on, tell me how dumb I am that I'm only just now noticing this after >72h played.
I would've never noticed that
hey this might sound weird but im pretty sure i got given a quest thats halfway finished? my last login i defeated the corrupted deer and now i have the quest "an invitation" but 4/5 parts are already completed
The lowest tier area contains the Glades of Andurin, the Middle Tier is The Wevetwood and Neathuns. The Highest tier? uncertain right now, maybe Circade Crypts and Mendicant?
Each even has it's own Fort, with a mild jump in difficulty between the first two and a larger gap between the middle and last
What I'm most curious about now is how old some of these Ode'n structures appear to be. The occupation has been ongoing for quite some time before the arrival of the Envoy, by my guess.
Either that or the War was... total, in it's destruction.
every zone has a glade
Yep and even looking at the map, the middle area has two mendicant zones.
an invitation is a quest for joining a faction, can you screenshot what it says?
breaks in the wall also make that divide far less solid
i dont think i can post but it says. pledge your courage to the kith of kings. pledge your spirit to alcas children. pledge your grace to the silent rose. sparrow birds ye follow...a prize? search for clues. it says ive done them all exept search for clues which is the last one. i spawned in front of a cave and the bird told me to go there so i just kinda did without thinking.
Every dungeon appears across a wide range of levels, except Rovgot Ruins which is just a preview in New Viscii for now
iirc, search for clues is for kith of kings, did you interact with the plaque on a statue near the entrance to the kith of kings?
the last thing i did was defeat a evil deer, so no
heh
looks like a desert
what is a beach but a desert next to a lot of water
How can i get the inv to actually play the game?
ode archers think they’re cool until a 5lb steel sword is flying at them 
There's a twitch drop tomorrow on the devstream
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1506672302279102605
All the ways to get access are detailed in the pinned message in this channel, as mentioned there's also a Twitch Drop for an invite if you watch the devstream tomorrow
You will need to link your account and watch for 30 minutes, details here: #soulframe-news message
(Instructions are for last Tuesdays Envoy Hour but the linking process is the same)
@tiny igloo do not randomly message me
U have to build golden statue of DE Steve and pray to it for a year. That's how everyone got it - devotion

i did that but all i got was a restraining order
I also bought the founder pack, that was less of a legal mess
it has invite cod on the back
yea
that's legal stuff, boring
This chest needs to be a blue top one i.m.o. Kind of silly the way it is now
It should just be an imprisoned wazzard who gives me his pants.
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I deleted the ocean by swimming next to this ship and jumping by the side of it 👀 Soulframegod
Can I change my character’s colors and stuff after I already started playing, or am I stuck with it?
yes
When you get Verminia (Brewer of Hues Fable) you will get access at the full customization, including colors (you have some basic ones to start with, and can gain more at the Factions).
where's the collector, is it global location or only to my instance? a pain to find, I already went to all spots and I think she moved somewhere else already.
It is supposed to be a shared location, on top of a per player cd, but I was never able to confirm it.
hiya, whats the social aspect of this game like?
Voluntary.
Unless you invite someone you are only going to see other people near the World Trees and Faction hubs.
Though eventually there will be trading (possibly P15), so that might be a reason to engage.
Also you can play Regatta against other players by interacting with a sitting Envoy.
Id hope so, Im hoping for more social gameplay
Hmm
More than what we have may be unlikely, mostly because the game is peer 2 peer
clans, social spaces like the enclaves, matchmaking for certain activities - wouldn't be rocket science to do, they already did with warframe
been killing this guy for weeks for his stupid necklace I don't even want but I want it
can they shelve the "find an old relic" nobody has time for that b.s. abandoning this. i've completed one before but refuse to keep looking past 10min. wtf.
Is there a way to exit a fable replay?
don't think there is 
unless there's an "Abandon" button in your Journal next to the fable
but don't think there is even for replays
so just gotta either ignore it or complete it, not that any of the fables take too long to complete but yeah
Naw don't think there is. I replayed the arise envoy quest to just see what replay did, and it looks like it reset torment stag too
No worries, though, I'll just speed thru
Thank ya @smoky crater
yee when you know what to do in those 2 and you've seen it already before it doesn't take long at all to get thru them again
np 
??????? what doe sthis mean? what button is TREE?
you dont have a tree button on your keyboard? smh 
I genuinely couldn’t figure out what that even means either
"Sure you weren't followed here?" Mam, you just watched me kill a stag the size of a house with no one else around. i think im alone yes.
omg that`s skinwalker eyes
Codex in this game gives Mastery Rank?
you havent found all the notes yet, the song is revealed when you have them all
you need to find more broken trees around the outside of the barrier, i cant remember if there is 3 or 4 total
Whatever button that cord is.
The buttons for notes do not change on the same line.
Methinks people are thinking too hard about that.
The same thing happens with the extra harmony notes when charming.
Hi I am new, can people explore the world together?
It's just... the button of the line it's on.
Thankfully not. The only things that give MR are leveling weapons, leveling pacts, and collecting history motes.
does the codex give MR in Warframe?
yes, but questing is a bit scuffed, you'll need to abandon and restart quests occasionally when they break or complete certain parts in single player. I did most of my questing with friends (80%+)
Hi, Can anyone see a potential downside to reforging a moonsteel orst?
....no not really?
Okay thanks.
Hello! I'm coming back into the game because I was previously locked by a bug (which is now fixed).
I'm trying to continue the "main story" and I just talked to the fire king guy. But after that my journal is empty. The only things I have is a side mission (Burning sage) and another I picked up from the scribe guy (A grand fable).
Am I missing something or am I just meant to roam around aimlessly and doing side missions until something happens?
Please tell me I'm not stuck because of another bug. Last time the same thing happened right before unlocking the scribe person
the game just is a lot about exploration.
I get that, but it's kinda weird that is just... stops all of a sudden
without at least a semblance of guiding thread
They're tryna fix that with Orlick's quest stuff.
i mean it's not like you're out of things to do, like you do literally have Orlicks stuff there and that Burning Sage thing too
Though it's also a pre-alpha so many things are, of course, a work in progress.
But Orlick will point you to the other ancestors at least.
like for exemple "A grand fable" is asking me to equip a rune, but I don't even know wtf a rune is
nor where to get one
you should've gotten a rune during Torment Stag if you did it as intended.
you have nothing in this tab?
It should have dropped from the Ghost guy you were supposed to absorb.
He has been buggy of late
no :/
you end up swimming in them just playing the game so just run around for a while
Well, then you have a few options
They can drop from chests, or you can hunt down Agari bosses which can drop them
But depending on your weapon type where you farm kight change
bruh they gotta do 'the teacher' quest but for soulframe lmao
Where are those bosses? :o
I started with Tethren, but I'm playing Oscelra since I bought the founder thing
You can find them in certain set locations on the map. They drop a red mushroom on death.
The runes are not guaranteed drops though
Still a chance
I’m sitting on several codes since I bought all the packs… here’s one for whoever claims it first : E4AC-B854-6FCB-CF09
what does their icons look like? All I see is the fire king's place, world tree, and a bunch of places I saw
send a screenshot of what your map looks like
you can get runes doing all sorts of things, personally I wouldn't rush it and just explore the world a bit. The game is at its best when all the mystery is still there.
ok so first of all, go around the map and unlock more of it by approaching those big scary trees and pulling the spears out of them
I've explored a bit further than that but since I didn't get any other world trees everything is still foggy
They aren't marked on the map, though iirc the Journal has a button you can press to be guided to one.
this is the locations of all of them on the fully unlocked map
you barely started, running around hunting Agari is the last thing you should be doing
also, once you de-fog the entire map, you get that very same spear weapon to actually use
one of the orlick things is getting a rune, which is not helped by the game not explaining what a rune is or where to get one, agari being typically a good source for runes
Right, he needs a rune, but he'll get one no matter what he does.
i don't know what the drop rates for them are from random chests but i suppose so
This is a good resource for gameplay mechanics since the game explains nothing, https://wiki.avakot.org/Gameplay
i guess one other thing i can recommend doing is charming animals ( use soul sight + your primary attack input to charm then, then you gotta do a little rhythm game thing ) as it rewards you their totems, i.e. weapon mods
Personally I'd keep to that page and https://wiki.avakot.org/Pacts to look up what skills do since the game is often plain wrong on those too
everything else I'd try to avoid spoiling until you run out of things to do
I mean don't get me wrong I do like that the game let's you discover stuff by yourself. It's more so that I have no idea what I should be doing and I feel like the game should at least nudge me in the right direction. I guess that's what the orlick thing is here for tho?
It sure is
Just the thing meant to give you your first rune broke is all
Pre alpha gonna be buggy unfortunately
sadge
Would say for now, just run dungeons and open every chest you find
You'll get a few runes eventually that way
Dungeons are the door things on this map, right?
yea those are entrances to dungeons, currently neathuns, dermak and glades are the 3 main ones
gotcha, I'll do that then, ty ty!
dermak is the more beginner one, i`d focus your efforts there first
I was like a dozen hours into the game before I figured out what a pull smite was
the game has some things it needs to work on
This is missing mirifuir, but it has the other two sieges marked.
sieges i`d avoid for anyone who is new anyway
especially mirifuir
Yet you'd recommend running all the agari? Sieges are just wholesale slaughter in a particular location, accompanied by an agari. The unique components needed drop on the agari's death and you can bird up to find where they fit. Grab a torch, light it on fire and swing it at the red balloon to hindedburg it and complete the siege. Shrimple.
weong - never said to do all agari, just posted a pic with a location of them since the guy asking had his map not unlocked and also the bosses in sieges do not count as agari bosses ( no mushroom drops ) and would therefore not progress the orlick objectives
Is it just me, or is the multiplayer a little laggy when you have someone in your party?
Guessing you or your friend has some rough internet
Peer to peer tends to be a lot more susceptible to internet stability
I got a rune :D How do I equip it?
Hover your mouse over the weapon while equipped, when in tent menu.
aren't those for totems?
for runes too
Runes hold totems
well not really ._.
oh in the middle! mb
rune just goes in the middle, totems go in the outer circle
Oh right sorry, runes add a slot
that's true yeah
I can't equip it on any of my weapons (._. )
sad, guess I'll try to get another one
unless I'm doing something wrong? Can you only equip "forburn" on certain weapons?
I just noticed there a bit of a lag when you parry and stuff
Maybe its because we are on opposite coasts
Odd. Whoever the host is should have very little lag
yeah, that one is for shields I think (maybe swords?)
Also the new Virtues confuses me. Before you could just pick where to put the points. How does it work now? I pick a "balance" and they automatically get added in the right spot to keep the same "balance" (idk how else to call it) as I level up?
Guessing you're a client in the multiplayer party?
or more like... no lag for the host
I don't have one of those, and doesn't work on swords, sadge
Forburn is for the Shield weapon type
Each Rune can only be equipped to a certain weapon type overall
For Long Blades, the Everflame rune should be equippable for you
guess I'll just have to be lucky
I'm willing to bet the reason the stag quest didn't give me a rune is because I didn't have the starter weapon equipped, since I'm not supposed to have a different weapon type by then
you'll find a rune for a weapon you have or a weapon for a rune you have soon enough
So when are they renaming ravgot ruins to nettle ruins?
-. -
I have finished all major quests (or all quests) from what I know and have levelled 2 pacts up, I'm a little lost on what to do now though. Should I wait for the next update or is there a gameplay loop I'm missing?
collecting all the gear and leveling weapons/pacts seems to be the endgame at the moment
I see, I presume more to come of course and I absolutely love the world and quests. What's a good way of levelling stuff, is it just votives?
The best way to level stuff would be the 30-wave arena fights with the ghosts that you can find sometimes in the Glades but it's the most boring way to do it and you're just speedrunning the only content you have left
Votives allow you so passively grind levels while getting faction rep
Imo it's a better use than focusing on only levelling gear
where are the arena fights found?
But there are more efficient ways to level gear
Rarely in the glades. Specific tile with a deer statue
hi , Can I continue my Soulframe progression after lunch?
they randomly appear in the Glades dungeons, I haven't seen one spawn in the last like 20 runs through there so I don't know if they nerfed the rate or what
yes you are allowed to break for lunch anytime you like! progress will be saved automatically
alright I see, I guess I'll go looking
(dw yes everything is saved after launch 😉 DE confirmed there are going to be no resets )
hi , Can I continue my Soulframe progression after release ?
personally I'd do votives to grab all the gear from the 3 factions (there are 2 pacts to unlock at rank 5, one of which is my favorite)
Eating food typically has no impact on game progress! But if you mean after launch, there are no mandatory account resets planned
I don’t want to lose all my progress after launch. If you know there will be a reset, tell me. I’ll stop playing now and wait until release.
DE has said they have bo more planned resets. The only case a forced reset might occur is if the game breaks horribly and it's the only way to continue, but DE seems confident that is not a very big risk at this time.
I wonder how catastrophic one of those would need to be, they have shown the ability to do partial wipes or mass set values in their db's
At a guess? Severe to complete database corruption
Steve spills beer on the servers
if Basker's Wrest gets its damage changed to Flame, which would be better between it and Odiac?
Currently Odiac is better but if Basker's got changed to flame than the comparison would no longer be objective.
As one would figure that flame and voltaic damage would have different advantages when enemy resistances become more important.
Which rune can you equip on Purity?
Both 'Heavy' runes, previously Greatsword.
One is Everflame, which shares a name with the Longblade rune, and the other is Treefell.
Whenever I select the rune slot there is no rune in there
Ohh okok xD
Each Agari is assigned one weapon to drop runes for, dropping the first at base and the other in Cogah.
Mendiking has Everflame but for Heavy at base and Treefell in Cogah.
Now that I think about it I actually don't know who drops polearm runes.
Knell has longblade, spider has shortblade, nimrod has flyblades, ruthos has bow.
Wraith is ofc magick, Mendiking is heavy.
Gawth is shield.
Maybe Thrice is polearm? I think that sounds right.
Or Kabocha.
Gourdo and Kabocha drop polearm runes
Okay, Kabocha then.
I did the same lol
Discharged Nimrod actually
And the Fort Curlail Siege
So Gawth and Thrice share runes.
Not sure if this the correct channel but I can't see the little green guy on the flowery rock in Alca's Children's enclave. Has anyone else had this issue?
hey guys having a bit of trouble with the stag quest not sure if its a bug or just me being dense
what kinda trouble?
yknow the flaming sword guy
ah.... yes.
its telling me to "bond" and when i try it doesnt do nothin
so yeah it's not exactly obvious that you have successfully used pull-smite on him
as long as it does like a front to back pulling animation with your right arm, you're good
well hes stood infront of me still
yep. he doesn't go anywhere
thought he was supposed to disappear or something
and my guide kinda just floats around him
i don't know if it's intentional that he doesn't disappear or not... because he used to
yeah just walk up the stairs past him
ignooooore the dood
he shall be ignored
like he ignored your bonding attempts 
exactly
bro what why u just standing there?
i need some help with this...
am i softlocked?
i would probably suggest relogging yeah....
are they cosmetic or do they provide benefits? also is it permanent?
semi-permanent, can be changed via replaying the fable, no difference other than what you can see
ah okie thanks
Hi everyone, if I buy the Founder’s pack, will I be able to use it on the Steam version when the game launches?
We expect the steam version to work like the steam version of WF where your account gets linked to your steam account so anything you've already purchased will transfer over.
But I don't think that's ever been made explicit yet?
are there mounts? i saw clips of it at some point. how can i get those mounts. my legs are sooo tired
not yet
😭
no idea when
is there a way to improve movement speed?
you'll unlock a fast travel soon but no, not running speed.
fast travel is very limited right now
how can i get river pearls and patch leather?
yes and no,
- yes there are ways but they are ‘exploiting’ the movement animations to move quicker via button combos
- no there is no official way to increase movement speed that is intentionally in the game other than the fast travel system
if i were to exploit it, is it banable?
DE is pretty lenient on movement jank, hence why warframe has bullet jump and such
river pearls spawn near the streams in the game and patch leather will come out of chests and stuff, but both of those can also sometimes be found in the "Avakot's Gots" world marker if you see that when you go to one of the world trees.
You can also get River Pearls from the Alca's Children standing shop
For that kinda stuff? No chance of getting banned really
I do hope it's fixed and not made a feature tho.
Cus we see how that went with Warframe.
And they've explicitly stated that they do not want that.
Definitely yeah
is this a stream?
it more than likely will be, if they can source out how its even possible after a hotfix that explicitly fixed one major component (it didnt stick)
Yes
yep
what benefits does mastery give you in soulframe
You get a virtue point per rank.
The highest total is 63 right now, 9 of those from talisman, 18 of those from pact nodes, another 18 from MR.
So it's one of the largest sources of virtue points.

man idk about you guys but i hate being forced to do mastery, but whateverr 
i hope they change it because one day when theres a ton of weapons/pacts your mastery rank will be really high and your benefits will make you extremely power crept lol n itll just feel rly awful for new players
the thing is, its not really forced. if you play the game with the intent to level up pacts/weapons and to unlock the map, youll rank up mastery
true, im just thinking about it 5 yrs from now lol
im just used to wf where mastery is mostly qol and not direct power i guess
i also just hate the idea of MR fodder weapons

i really like the game alot regardless tho lol so its not a dealbreaker n i imagine the game is gonna be way different by the time its public
sorry im yappin lol
How do you get 9 from a talisman? Also, you forgot 2 from fables.
Triune
i think the weapon art system is pretty cool tho, gives you a reason to max all the weapons in the weapon types you actually enjoy instead of having level stuff you dont enjoy but i also like having fun more than minmaxing adsklgfd
Oh. Right. I was thinking single attument.
do fables give you mastery ?
Brominus and Orengall fable have attument based responses, that will give you +1 to whatever answer you chose. If you wanna change that, you gotta replay the fable.
Rood's fable used ot have placeholder for it. But we can't choose those options.
Not mastery but what Vlad said yeah
Orengall aks you what you plan to do with her pups.
Bromius asks "but what if it happens again?"
is there a way to tell which options you chose? im p sure i did grace for both but im not sure lol
You just had to pay atteniton when you played the fables.
yaa its mostly just cause i havent done them in a while qq
They're replayable, so you can just play again.
tru tru
Replaying Orengall's also lets you choose a different pup, if you want. But you need to relog, as the old one will show up still inthe nightfold till relogging.
okay im convinced the golden orb things to identify locations are not real
nah they’re like the one piece
the entire communtiy is gaslighting me into thinking theyre real
its just only a handful spawn per session and dont have fixed locations
-# and Kairness has a w i d e spawn radius
You're wrong. we're the not real ones.

It was a myth, a total fabrication
Step 1: Insult their mamas.
Step 2: Suggest they're too afraid of you to show up.
Did you do the Grand Fable quest yet?
You can't collect them until you get an unlock from one of that fable chapters
Oh yeah they're locked behind Orlick progression now.
😶
They only appear a few minutes after entering the dungeon for some reason, really needs to get fixed.
When I was farming for them I just entered and then sat in the first room for at least 5 minutes every time.
And yeah, that also doesn't guarantee them spawning, just waits for ones that may have to show up.
After waiting for 5 minutes, I got a single mote more often than no motes, so it isn't terrible.
I just entered, sat for 5 minutes, slowly cleared the dungeon, didn't bother with the boss, logged out.
Repeat until all motes are acquired.
dawg sameee, i dont even wanna level the other weapons i just wanna stick to magic 😔
fr its way more fun just playing what i wanna play. i hope they end up making the game more unique than making it similar to warframe but w.e lol ill still play
I'm happy
joining a different faction doesn't wipe your progress with the previous one does it?
Nop
It's a progression system that easily scales with the amount of content they add, assuming they make sure to add a few weapons every now and again. We can effectively scale with the content available, and it's simpler than having a capped level via generic xp gain that they have to constantly adjust.
So it has the potential to scale very well and need less management than more generic systems, and it builds off of something they're already used to.
Nowadays, with an Omen Beast xp buff, you can also take several weapons from 0 to 30 in a few hours.
Like, 4 or more if you just do things and kill stuff consistently.
And it plays into them wanting you to try different things and all that I guess.
Like any system it has its pros and cons, but I find it very manageable as it is.
Can anyone help me with this quest? I defeated the organ but I've been running around trying to find the page everywhere and can't seem to find it
this any good?
damn which quest is this is it in chapter 1 or 2?
quite good for non cogah i have a similar one
chapter 1 I'd have to assume? I'm still very early in the game
i cant see it in my journal mb try checking the wiki?
Woah. Away so ive missed all of 14.5 .. worried it will feel too sparse trying to get any single tempers added to weapon when I have access to my device in another city 🙃 how do you do it?
Might not be able to for another month min. Or days will just run out and stop being produced while squatting in another vacant environment, family owned empty house needing work sometime and close the endlessness.
I'll look it up then :D
um guys theres supposed to be a scroll here on steal oden intel but ive searched the entire area theres nothing, is this a bug? dont one of the sinecure drop it?
I love how we can parry during a pull smite.
Must have been complete BS to that Ode though 
I have a rune equipped, but it's not letting me complete this :c
nevermind I'm stupid I didn't know you had to activate runes
how do runes recharge? is it just overtime?
(I'm trying to use everflame, I used it once already)
To use the rune you either need to use:
Spectral Sight + Fully Charged Heavy Attack
or
Set a key in the settings keybinds menu if on PC if you don't want to use that the above combo.
Question: Didn't you have 1/3 of runes weilded in battle last night when you asked this? I replied with an extensive explanation at the time.
I had 0/3 because I didn't have a rune at all
Sorry. Never mind, it wasn't you
It was someone with the exact same issue and similar question phrasing.
I used it once already by doing exactly that, but I can't seem to be able to use it anymore
Sorry that's not good enough for your needs re writing:
nah it's okay I think I understood
Each weapon rune has a number of charges it can hold.
When you have a charge it is represented by a ring that appears around your middle/Green/Spirit power in the bottom right UI element
any other bow users unable to do ground finishers?
Some weapons can get up to 5 charges, shield runes get less.
You'll get black bars that show how many more you can hold, once you are currently holding one
so the blue/red/green wisp thingies are used for "smiting", I just Q+light attack to "smite" it, and then I get a charge
Using the smite action on an already dead enemy that left a swirl behind them, doesn't always give you a point
The enemy needs to be alive when you smite the colored swirl effect, or it might not work. A bug(?) since P14
How do I make those wisp spawn though? I've only ever seen it AFTER an enemy is dead, or for the creepy tree guys that require smiting to be killed
That is your smite chance on your weapon.
It is this game's version of a Critical Hit
...but they are going to do much neater stuff than just higher numbers.
You can improve that with Squirel Totems put in the Blue/upperRight section of the totem/rune window. They will help improve that.
Also as weapons level up their Smite chance improves, sometimes drastically.
squirel in top right just says it improves pull smite?
There are different squirrels, usually two types per weapon. One of them will have an improvement to chance to smite
ohhh gotcha
I'll try to get it
That means I have to run this stupid Orst-III for a while T.T
Orst-III gets a fairly high crit rate I think when finished. (Not logged in)
If you don't like slow weapons, equip it, then use your sidearm most of the time instead. Try to get last hits/cleanup in with Orst when you can.
Do Votive Quests to help improve your chances (im convinced) of runing into a spirit and getting the Experience buff (top choice of the three) to help speed you along
Don't succumb to the evil of the endless tile.
no clue what a Votive or endless tile is, I just run around bonking stuff
but I'll definetly be using my side arm tho xd
Have you gotten quests from the world trees?
Have you completed your fables?
The onboarding experience is still failing new players.
my quests have been especially bugged, had to quit playing the game twice because of stuff that was preventing me from progressing (they got fixed which is why I'm here)
so maybe I have, maybe I haven't. I can't really remember tbh
Ok like... hold on and Ill jump in and show you around to some of the stuff to see if it will help improve your experience
like even right now, I had to farm all day trying to get a rune for a weapon type I have because the stag quest didn't give me any
I have sent you a PM
Damn, Ode tempest dash + flintsmoke is awesome
Gunna see how this fairs in cogah
The grapple also apparently doesn't alert enemies so if you're behind one you can grapple into a backstab.
hey does anyone know how to get duhk halic cuz im not getting it even after cleansing trees
all trees
i dont have the fragment its not even in my inv
Hi fellow envoys
heyo
so i've been away for some weeks, what exactly is changing with new crafting system?
if you mean the loot, then their plan is to make most ( if not all ) weapons function like orst III - fully prebuilt drops from mobs that have random stats ( tempers ) on them
for more details, i`d tune into the devstream this friday at their twitch or youtube channel
what will happen with already existing fragments on our inventories? i haven't crafted everything due to dracs shortage
it seems that virtues have changed again?
not sure but you will keep all your gear, currently all gear that isn't an orst is 'stock' craftwork quality which is considered the lowest/base quality & only the orst has several that range from stock all the way up to legendary
oh.. so we will have to farm stuff again from zero?
like i said, we do not know exactly what will happen with already existing gear or exclusive gear like founders', they`ll probably talk about it on the devstream
i see, thanks for the info, i appreciate it.
so here is how it works - there are no more prisms, there are now virtue liths which are pretty rare random drops from agari bosses ( and i think siege bosses ? ) that are basically respec tokens. For the virtue triquetra itself, once you click 'rebalance' it allows you to drag that little dot to whichever configuration you want on the triquetra itself. Keep in mind, the re-aligned virtues are saved per loadout and not universal for all loadouts.
ah, it seems that they re invented the wheel
a weird choice
the old system was the best
the way you re-assign virtues now is great but liths are an absolute blight that the game would be much better off not having, imo
they basically invented potatoes but for soulframe
similarly to Warframe
well not really cus you are not doubling your virtue capacity or anything like that
it's more like a super limited respec token item that you`d see in games like elden ring or something
we are going to see it in game shop soon i bet
i mean since it's loadout specific, it's not that bad to be honest
but i don't understand why they simply couldn't kept the old system with specific allocations
the problem is the liths go against experimenting with virtues - since the game is allergic to showing you exact numbers for things, your only choice is experimenting with different presets on your own. However, liths are super rare and limited, so if you want to test every possible variation for virtues, you will run out of these things.
They also clog up the loot tables for other stuff, i.e. if you want a rune from boss A and a lith is in his loot table also and drops, it takes up the spot of that rune instead of being an additional drop alongside the rune
eh.. i really don't know how to express my feeling to be totally honest, DE has 2 very experienced teams and them making these design choices feels very weird to me
it's like re living warframe early era
yeah i really dont like this
i didin't mind it back then when i was youngling and had so much time to play WF
but i'm not here to mindlessly grind a non ending rng fest
Guys what is this place Eternium ?? what to do there
hopefully they move away from this game design
because this game is really nice overall, other than few negative things
eh, it's for showing off your flowers, nothing much else to do atm
eternium gardens can be entered by playing the music notes emote in your nightfold - it basically shows flowers planted by founders of the game
where is the toggle sprint setting
I really hope theres a way to upgrade weapons from stock rarity then, because that just feels like a punishment to anyone who has crafted all the weapons already
"just do it again lol" doesnt seem very appealing to me
but i'll let em cook for now
maybe they'll let us use frags for rerolling the stats
66/68 is the most complete codex atm right?
excluding the will o wisps and that mystery banneret, yeah I think so
i'm at 64/68 myself bc I haven't bothered to smite Circade and that fable-specific banneret yet
the she wolf fable one was a bit of a pain
I've heard the horror stories
bows are your friend
I just ignore the codex completely
imo the codex feels a bit backwards atm, you need a guide/wiki to find all the enemies instead of the codex telling you
yeah much like the WF one
Iirc some entries are not even possible to complete due to some mobs being unsmiteable
only the root things i believe
Accessibility
The correct answer is that it Depends on which bow, and how you like to play it.
But, since you're probably new, for now stick to grace-aligned stuff. Probably Orengall's armor set, and almost any dagger should pair nicely in that regard. Your faction, The Silent Rose, should also sell you fragments for a +6 grace talisman that can really help get your numbers up.
Once you get a bit deeper into the game, you'll probably want to spread your points out a bit more into the other virtues, either because the bow you like wants it, or because the pact you're using wants it. (probably a bit of both) Weapons have a cap on them for how much damage they can get from virtues, so at some point adding more grace doesn't directly help the base damage of your bows (though I think it'll still help crits and sneak attacks? not sure?) but you're unlikely to reach that point easily in the early game unless you get some good joineries to put on one of the better bows.
The other faction talismans also come in +6 variants, so getting those also helps you flex your build a bit more for a more custom fit.
Also, check out SaraLovesArchery on youtube. She's an awesome bow fanatic. 🙂
Guys what I do now 
You still want to full invest in grace regardless because bigger crits>>>>>
Looks like you've got some motes to hunt!
alternatively, Avex with full courage tethren
Thanks you for taking some of your time to answer ! I'm new, I might have 20 hours in the game. I actually got the juniper bow which scale both with grace and spirit. I also have the Starling. Orengall's armor set is kinda a bit hard to get, from what I have seen. I have to change my faction etc ? So for now I use the mestra set
where do i find the motes at nw vis**r*
They dont have set spawns
and you've still got a good portion of the map to uncover
i cant see anythin cuh
Is this guy bugged or am I doing something wrong?
did you do what it says on the screen?
yeah
should be good to go then i think, he doesnt disappear or anything afaik
's just the message sometimes sticks around
oh, you're right, ty
Keep your distance as much as you can. Later on, when you unlock the Riposte you may be able to parry melee attacks but if youre not comfortable with parries you should stick to keeping a distance
Ideally you want to ambush your enemies and get headshots
This is a pretty common point for a bug, I believe. If you have any problems with your spectral sight (Q) later on, log out and back in again. I played thru that quest a couple times and, for me, that NPC was the point at which my spectral sight stopped working.
you're probs past it now, though
Anyway, I would die for the beaver on the log in screen. Or any of the woodland creatures, really.
I found a rat (named Poppette I think?) But after chasing it until a dead end, I can't seem to be able to interact with anything
there is one of the statues you're supposed to rebuild with the flute, but I can't do it for some reason
am I missing something?
in that case
try going thru the glades dungeon thru the entrance that's in a cave, under a large tree just south from Fort Curlail
Is Ode Tempest's Gravitate passive normally kinda buggy in online games?
wdym
It just defaults to the normal kick instead of the grapple
it does have a range limit, i think levelling it up increases target acquisition range
Is currently possible to pick this mask?
Nop, its maxed out already and the issue only seems to happen in online games where I'm not hosting
hmm i guess is indeed bugged, worth reporting it in #1438224825113120788 , then again online sessions tend to be somewhat unstable in general
Nope! This mask and 2 others are part of ' Bita's Eve ' event which is basically SF's version of an annual halloween event
Ah ok thanks, I'll try to see if I can get the bug to happen consistently first
Is iron a lower drop rate than brass and steel? Or have I just had very unfortunate luck with these weapon racks?
It will likely be back this halloween! 🎃
shit luck chief
Dog 😭 Legit it's been like 20 weapon racks between last night and today
iron only drops from sword racks along with steel. brass and steel drop from polearm racks
Spoke too soon, literally just got some, praise be
you will now get NO IRON for the next 130 racks.
I think you lowkey hacked the drop table of my game cause right after you replied I found three sword racks behind a fort and now have enough iron ❤️
Why can't I find any motes in the Rovgot Ruins?
they are very rare
This is highly anecdotal but you might have an easier time finding them if you equip the full pensive set, or at least the cloak
Just based on some initial testing that was done by the Soulframe Brazil community 🇧🇷
4 people tested for a while without, running in their separate worlds, and got very few
then the same 4 people equipped pensive sets and finished the whole entry in 3-4hrs
I found the best method when getting those was to finish the dungeon as normal, then backtrack to the entrance, for some reason the motes took a while to spawn so they weren't there on my first pass
They have delayed spawn, either wait 5mins at the start before going through the dungeon or complete the dungeon and backtrack to the start
i once had one just spawn literally right next to me in the 2nd tile of the dungeon 
i did both methods and i was getting spawns almost every run, always in the second main room
usually 2 spawns even
i wore the pansive set the whole time so idk if it actually effects anything or not but its easy to get and doesnt hurt to the throw it on for a few runs
is this a new live time feature? cause it says live in 2 hours an hour and half ago but im pretty sure its the warframe stream thats live in half hour not soulframe?
first it's warframe's stream, then right after that, soulframe
warframe's stream starts in 30 mins, lasts a bit less than 1.5 hours, then it's soulframe
Can any1 give me a summary of cogah mechanics please? What it does, when does it end etc., Thank you!!
Make game hard, die it go away
Most full summary is on the https://wiki.avakot.org/Cogah page of the wiki! But to give you a brief one;
- It's a temporary hard mode, you access it by brewing the cogah elixir at verminia and drinking it
- Enemies become lvl 40, then increase by 2 each time you kill an agari or castellan
- Can't do sparrow's tales but can do everything else
- If you log out, or die, or flee a fight, it ends
Tnx both!
Oh and it has unique loot too! 3 talismans, and a full set of runes (one for each weapon)
Gave you the rough summary lol
monkey understood

They’re also much dimmer than they used to be. Look for a puffball cloud at the edge of your render distance and as you get closer you’ll see the mote itself. The distance you can see them from also feels like it was reduced ~20% since P12? Might just be personal experience.
Yo people? Wondering what is going on with game being inacessible new stuff. Like tempers
in 35mins there is a devstream about P15 and the whole new loot system 😄
Hard to watch.. cant play.. haven't met like a single person since turning 18, in clean environment because it's a run down family property without a tenant but lots of breakins and being trashed up squatting with just a mattress but is better than rotting couch temporarily man.. watching, reading or drawing any more stuff like youtube.. impossible to reindulge after so much time only to.. will try 🙂