gameplay-discussion

[lament nacelle]

rank 2 on a faction gets you the extreme version of the starting prisms

then the split scaling are behind rank 4

which i assume is temporary

so they can put them behind quests like they said they were gonna do later

[main wadi]

but ye more rng , lets shoe horn it into the one place it really didnt need it. they could just make up a new system and expand, not force builds into more rng hunts. the game ius already a spreadsheet / 3 hour timer trap. tieing the basics of build in general into rng grind is just lame, as is the excuse why the change as made. as if this system addresses the people who didnt re-balance their virtues previously will do so with the crystal system lol.

team needs more people who can politely tell steve no every now and then

[lament nacelle]

where the hell are you getting RNG from?

[austere trail]

team needs someone who can take steve's keyboard away

[visual radish]

Frankly i'd rather it be the opposite

Opens up more options earlier

[lament nacelle]

agreed

[visual radish]

They probably have no idea what rng means

[lament nacelle]

or its just bait

just liek that Kage guy saying the game is gonna be P2W in 8 months

[visual radish]

unfortunately those people never go away, least they never went away in warframe

[austere trail]

i dont agree with the sentiment that SF will be P2W, but it was steve who made warframe so grindy for a while

[lament nacelle]

me staring at the Oxium needed for just about anything...

[austere trail]

better bap them birds

[dreamy silo]

whats this?

[lament nacelle]

bug

[lunar atlas]

so totems on weapons that gives magical and physical defense doesn't work anymore?

[clear vessel]

Ooh thanks

Gonna look for the kith then

[sly escarp]

Sorry, but ler Rule 2 I do have to ask you speak in English in this Discord, thank you.

[marsh cargo]

At the very least they never show up in your stats, yes. Idk if they actually work.

My magic pie bush stopped working. Since yesterday evening the Wyndoun tree no longer gives deer and bear quests - only the dermak undercity 😩

[lunar atlas]

so its better for the mean time to put parry window or perfect dodge on slots? idk if they also work 😆

[marsh cargo]

Parry window does feel like a safe default option, yes. I have it basically in every melee weapon. Some enemies hit really quick, some have a goddamn looney tunes windup, can’t keep up with all of them xD

[lunar atlas]

ye I hate that looney tunes wind up with 10 business days upon hitting. They should just make it like if its weapon flashes that's your que to parry.

[marsh cargo]

Finally started using the Mistgale rune on my longswords, and it feels like a sidegrade at most (also the projectiles often fly over the enemies). Is it skill issue, or the burning sword one is just generally more reliable?

[hardy jungle]

idk where else to post this, but it was an amusing outcome.

[lunar atlas]

Mistgale is fun to use. I just use Everflame so I can put HP regain and Attack speed totems. I'll just throw my burning sword on enemies and it will just explode on their faces 🤣

[marsh cargo]

Projectiles homing in on the enemies would make it a bit more reliable. Although practically having multishot does seem quite strong

Especially with Bromius

[spare badge]

Send him ot Mada.

[grizzled depot]

I read the patch notes about Bromius but haven't tested today, how's the fix? It sounds like it's required to 3 > 1? Courage scaling seemed not to do much, is it a multiplicative?

I searched and didnt see discussion about it...?

[blissful dune]

Anyone know if its better to bless Seathorn with Grace or Spirit?

[grizzled depot]

do you mean with joineries? do those work now like before changing all attunement?

[blissful dune]

no it adds one mark of that virtue

like this

[grizzled depot]

hm right

i didnt get what joineries did now but I see

do we have %s for each symbol amount?

I would guess it might depend on your build if the amount is flat per symbol

[spare badge]

Wiki might.

[grizzled depot]

oh avakot grant us the hidden wisdom, lemme check

[velvet veldt]

Probably not. Many damage accountants have professed the displeasure at the lack of concrete numbers in the game.

[spare badge]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Virtues#Weapon_Attunement

[grizzled depot]

Leveling their Pacts. A Rank 30 Pact provides far more Life than an unranked one.
Is this still a thing? was checking the gameplay tab...

The formula to calculate your Virtue Attunement Bonus is below:

Attunement Bonus = Courage Value * ( Courage Pips / 2 ) + Spirit Value * ( Spirit Pips / 2 ) + Grace Value * ( Grace Pips / 2 + 5/16 )

[lament nacelle]

Life was moved to COurage iirc

[grizzled depot]

• 5/16 ) < this part correct...?

[marsh cargo]

We very much do afaik. Grace gives the highest damage per each virtue sign. I don’t remember the numbers off the top of my head tho.

[lament nacelle]

given how hard Grace scales with everything, its most likely correct

[spare badge]

Only for grace attuned weapons.

[plucky fractal]

Hey extremely new player question here, but how does one increase their faction points or whatever? I found Avakot and have been running around doing some quests but my standing still says 0/5,000 and there's no clear way to increase it

[marsh cargo]

You go to any tree and accept a faction tale (bounty)

It will give standing

[plucky fractal]

Ahh okay so the big life trees

[lament nacelle]

it might also tie into armor since the Orengall set is basically BiS cause of how much armor you get compared to equal Courage sets

[spare badge]

The next section deals with armor attuments.

[marsh thistle]

i logged in to find my sparrow turned into a rat with wings thier a way to reverse that?

[spare badge]

Orengall stuff needs to be Spirit, given that the pact descripjtion and Orengall herself reference Irids and Spirit heavily. Rood needs to be the Grace pact.

[lament nacelle]

go to your loadout and change your guide from there

[grizzled depot]

wow you are right 51 20 49

disgusting xD

[marsh cargo]

The magic pie bush is back! The tree finally started giving vadagar animal tales again. Rejoice!

[lament nacelle]

yeah its one of the reasons Grace is meta rn

[grizzled depot]

tho I am using beast and mendicant and is 52 24 26

with the +3 all talisman

I forgot to get the burnt mora <_>

[lament nacelle]

i personally dont care for meta, i just like throwing my shield around lmao

but i keep tabs on it

and how many people tell me im being suboptimal for not using Durglint~

[marsh cargo]

Currently at 52/16/34 with arbearer’s set at 34 courage; the talisman is 4/1/1 for courage, and I put all my virtue increases from quests into spirit. So it can go even higher. Arbearer’s isn’t that far behind Mendicant for full courage tbh.

[grizzled depot]

yeah i kinda dont like the fasion ruining helm <_>

[marsh cargo]

Based

[blissful flower]

bis???

[lament nacelle]

Best in Slot

[marsh cargo]

You can just bestitch a bare head and remove the helmet on any armor set. They are mostly rather ugly anyway.

[blissful flower]

ohh

[grizzled depot]

Too fast. Too soon.

I am not bestitching yet before more aspects pop xP

[lament nacelle]

I like the Brazen Lung myself. I like the idea of using it to enter the toxic areas

[crystal oak]

alternativly you can use the emote or rightclcick the emote to toggle the visors on certain helmets

[blissful flower]

i have bear head brazen lung and mend king helm as my bestiched helms

[crystal oak]

right click the helemt in the arsenal

[grizzled depot]

but yeah currently armors functionally are uniforms depending on your prism chosen

its more "BiS" than ever right now to wear something specific

[lament nacelle]

there is also an emote to temporarily toggle it

[crystal oak]

the visors not full helmet removal

[marsh cargo]

Well, that isn’t exactly a negative, isn’t it? As long as we have armor for almost any weapon setup we run, I’d say the system does what it’s supposed to do.

[grizzled depot]

sadly the mendicant helm encloses you in that cage >_<

[grizzled depot]

its not a negative but it does a bit of a disservice to new envoys that dont have the sets xD

they are running basically naked until then

[lament nacelle]

pretty much stuck in the lower level areas till they can get the armors

casue the high level archers can do like half your hp

[marsh cargo]

Very much so. But I’d say that’s the part of the fun, eh. Would be worse if they got access to the best equipment right away

[grizzled depot]

ok lets see if the bear does the stomp now...

[marsh cargo]

It doesn’t

Can’t even kill lvl30 archers

[velvet veldt]

I just kill the archers. This is the way

[lament nacelle]

The problem was that Bromius pact 1 was TOO strong. it now scales with your armor, the passive steals armor, and 3 then scaless off that new armor value. makes the pact more balanced

[grizzled depot]

yeah around lv23 without 3 it doesnt kill, just with 3

[lament nacelle]

so far i have seen that around 400+ damage seems to be a bit of a soft cap for the damage, but you could probably get higher numbers if you could use the passive to get more armor fast with something that hits multiple enemies

[grizzled depot]

its 223 damage with the setup i mentioned, and it has also falloff damage (not that much as Mora's Hand 3 tho, 17x)

[crimson dock]

hey guys, am I able to play this game in australia with decent ping?

[grizzled depot]

oh right the passive i guess...

[lament nacelle]

i mean it should be fine for more solo play

i dunno where the servers are tho

[crimson dock]

Is it not seeded servers like warframe is?

[lament nacelle]

oh most likely, but i didnt know that in the first place lmao

all you can do is test it

[grizzled depot]

and you make an instance for yourself too

it should be fine

[crimson dock]

Ahhh okay yea just wanted to confirm lol

thanks so much everyone

[marsh cargo]

It works well in Asia while solo, have not tried co-op (but I suppose it would work, just like it does for WF)

[grizzled depot]

speaking of Mora's Hand, am i too much of a brute if I am believing that the very starting... aptly name "Warrior of Mora" prism is the actual best for it?

it gives you cooldown, boosts both 1 and 3

lets you use Igne Mora

[lament nacelle]

yeah the pact does lean into Courage

especially in the vibes

[grizzled depot]

the damage difference with the 3 isnt too different (seems to have already quite high damage itself) so no need to sacrifice HP (354 with +3 all talisman) using Ranger

[marsh cargo]

Hm, slow on hit totems disable boss mechanics like phase transitions. I wonder how soon are they gonna nuke it 😅 (hopefully not before they actually make melee combat feel good, and not be a hectic mess getting dogpiled by enemies)

[grizzled depot]

as in invulnerability? wow then

[marsh cargo]

Yes, if you pass the threshold while the enemy is frozen, it dies

Both bows and flyblades can do that. And bows can oneshot vadagar bears

[grizzled depot]

its always bows...xD

[lament nacelle]

the slow ALSO can cause teh Archer and the Healer type enemies to turn into torso's on death with a thrown weapon, i havent tried it on bows yet tho

[crystal oak]

slow on arrow rain especially with torrent, can make bosses freeze, not to mention the perma stagger

[plucky sonnet]

Where do you go after you kill the 3 headed bear for the witch?

[crystal oak]

where ever you want, its open world

[plucky sonnet]

so its just two bosses?

I've done the whole map

[crystal oak]

2 story bosses for now

[plucky sonnet]

wheres the highest level stuff to farm? what portion of the map?

[crystal oak]

ne, and just cause you got the world trees doesnt mean youve seen it all, secrets n such around

[half talon]

NE is the highest level enemies, and you can craft Cogah potions to fight across the map against harder enemies

[spare badge]

The game isn't linear. Check on the wiki for what fables you may have missed.

https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables

[languid tiger]

What happens at level 5 with Alca etc? You just keep leveling or do you max out?

[blissful flower]

ohh faction you lvl 5 and get everything then you lvl 5 and get all the stuff from the other 2 factions

[jaunty summit]

can someone explain why adding an additional spirit attunement pip to the bow is decreasing my damage instead of increase the damage ??

[spare badge]

You stop leveling, but you've unlocked everything you can buy for rep. So, you don't stop earning faction XP.

[knotty moon]

Blessed reset the rank, so it is likely the damage at rank 0.

[spare badge]

I think DE nerfed non-giduar joineries, too, recently.

[knotty moon]

Wasn't it only Feybalt?

[lament nacelle]

yeah just Feybalt

[spare badge]

Was it?

[jaunty summit]

my current bow is 126/252 dmg. where is it gettign 102/204 in the other screenshot above.

[spare badge]

If so, then yeah, it'd be the level reset change.

[jaunty summit]

sorry. i seem to be out of the loop..

[lament nacelle]

the consecutive damage will still end up with higher damage than the Gialdur, but you do damage faster with just the normal damage buff from Gialdur. plus regen lmao

[spare badge]

Polished has better stats.

[jaunty summit]

ah. i see.

Would you guys recommend adding the blessed iridis joinery to juniper? what do people do? I have 18 spirit and 16 grace at the moment.

[spare badge]

It's up to you. I have blessed by mora on it.

[languid tiger]

I put blessed by saphene on my Juniper

[jaunty summit]

i was mostly looking at iridis for the 20% increased charge rate. 😅

[spare badge]

Blessing doesn't determine that. The joinery type does.

[languid tiger]

With the Blessed by Saphene on, you can 3-4 tap most bosses with headshots

[knotty moon]

You can get the same stats with a Polished, doesn't reset the rank, but also doesn't give an Attunement pip.

[worthy star]

that moment when you like how Orengall's abilities work but the first node on the upgrade menu you need to unlock to get anything else is useless because you play solo

[dreamy silo]

unable to join. The objective has been completed. how do i fix this?

[jaunty summit]

oh oh. Thanks for clarifying that.

[spare badge]

Ghost wolves and guide count as allies.

[worthy star]

,,,

[knotty moon]

The bird counts too? 👀

[ebon wraith]

yes it does

[hasty dew]

can I ask what does this do ?

[spare badge]

Kill the circade in front of it, it gives you a fragment amulet for the Triune amulet.

Wear that outside at the right time and the ghost will appear. Kill him and it gives you an actual Triune Fragment.

[hasty dew]

wear wwhat outside ?

[spare badge]

The amulet you get from defeating the ghost in front of the glowy thing. There's red, blue, and green.

[hasty dew]

I don't see anthing droping from it, is this random ?

[spare badge]

Pay attention. You have to kill the ghost of the circade right in front of the glowy mural and then itneract with the mural.

It's a guranteed drop if you do it.

[knotty moon]

Full explanation and solution: https://wiki.avakot.org/Festival_of_the_Circade

[hasty dew]

oh man, I kill it before it standing infront of that glowing thing

[spare badge]

Well, now you know...

[hasty dew]

I see the red and blue

but there are no ghost

I did kill the butcher thought

also there some kind of gem in this room

if I shoot it, it will make wield sound, do I have to do something with this ?

oh my god, I'm a fricking idiot

[spare badge]

Go look at the wiki page. Dexell pointed you to. The gems aren't meant to be solved by one person. #gameplay-discussion message

[hasty dew]

It said I have to kill the Butcher in front of those icon

I hate myself

[spare badge]

Butcher? You need to kill Circade.

[hasty dew]

this is really confusing

[spare badge]

It's a community puzzle that took quite a few people working together to solve. So yeah, confusing is a good description.

[oak furnace]

Circade is glitched to display the name Butcher briefly

[plucky fractal]

So I've been playing for about two days, started with the Oscelda pact and from what I can tell have beaten most of the avilable Fable story missions and am starting to just run around and explore. The game is really fun but so far I have found it VERY stingy with equipment/weapons. I am still using the base gear + one shortsword I was able to craft, and am kind of sick of the staff. Do weapons just drop in the world itself? Or do I have to find fragments of one randomly and then craft them?

Also looking to switch to the Rood pact since it looks cool but man is it expensive to craft lol

[oak furnace]

check out avakot.org for the wiki. It will show you where to get weapons and armor. Most are from boss drops.

[spare badge]

Ah... That's a very old bug that got squased way back when. Didn't know it was back.

[knotty moon]

You don't drop equipment ready to use, you find fragments, and with those you can craft stuff (after completing The Steelsinger, after the tutorial you'll find a note in any shrine that should lead you to that quest).

[spare badge]

You'll also need to have completed Steelsinger to unlock the blacksmith.

[jaunty summit]

i have to come back to this. I just got a quicksilver polished. Switching my gildaur tempered (+20 damage) to Quicksilver polished (also +20 damage) is decreasing the damage of the bow. what am i missing?.. This system could do with some streamlining...

[knotty moon]

That I have no idea.

Either Quicksilver is bugged or the UI is.
Either way it seems to be subtracting the 20 from Gildaur and not adding the ones from Quicksilver.
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[clear vessel]

Unfortunately yes

Wiki lists the sequence in which you need to hit them etc.

[ebon wraith]

\o/

[hasty dew]

I got the set !

I do try to kill the boss infront of the symbol but nothing happen

do I need to kill it while facing the symbol ?

[languid escarp]

check ur inventory for talismans, that's what u get

[knotty moon]

Close should be enough, you should see the soul get absorbed into the mural, then you can interact to get a narration and the Talisman.

[languid escarp]

dusk, dawn and day(?) or summit

[half swift]

is there a setting in the menus for when your at your "arsenal" forgot the actual ingame name, that disables that freaking mouse slow down?

[hasty dew]

one down, 2 to go

[signal pumice]

i can't beat nimrod he's too strong. just two shots me

[hasty dew]

send help in recuit, that how I kill Nimrod

[iron temple]

For efficient solo weapon leveling, tier 3 votives/tales vs Cogah run?

[ebon wraith]

higher level enemies give more exp, question is can you kill them as fast with unleveled weapon

[knotty moon]

Cogah Organ, don't free the animals for infinite spawns.
Or normal Organ if the weapon damage is not high enough.

[ebon wraith]

also bosses give decent chunk of EXP

[iron temple]

Ah thx, I guess the question is then which pact to help out and how high to up the level in Cogah or not? I am a max rank envoy with all the things just releveling some weapons with a different blessed joinery in light of the virtue rework... I am a veteran of solo cogah runs in general and have a good feel for it... 😄

[knotty moon]

On the other hand T3 give rep.

[iron temple]

I just need raw weapon exp... 🤣 I maxed out factions a few hotfixes after they came out... 😄

[knotty moon]

Ditto, but I have religiously avoided maxing out on rep yet for some reason.

[iron temple]

Recommended level range to boost Cogah to for pure blessed joinery releveling of strong weapons of their type?

The pacts i'm generally looking at are Oscelda, Tethren, or Orengall to do this btw...

[knotty moon]

Eh, the one you can handle at the time I guess.
Personally I would just do base level Cogah.
As far as I know the exp doesn't rise all that much, and it is probably not worth trying to find the sweet spot.

[iron temple]

Oh ok thx! Doh, I just realized I just finished an Organ run. I wish I realized it sooner because I only need middle organ to get my waz chest...

[knotty moon]

I'd use Cogah mostly to avoid lvl 9 enemies.

[hexed spoke]

does anyone know if attunement cap is still a thing with p13?

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1445485325248889012

[iron temple]

@hexed spoke Yes but it is a bit different now...

extremely weapon tier and weapon type oriented now... 😄

[hexed spoke]

yeah seems like unless de release official stuff it would be hard to test

given how its prisms now

thanks

[iron temple]

Also there is the question of where in the math layers the attunement cap is currently, hard at the end like before, or if virtue math still has some post wiggle room... 😅

[west bone]

Does anyone know if jumping is an intended way to avoid attacks? Like being able to jump over swings / shockwaves

or is jumping just for traversal?

[iron temple]

Since I don't have organ up to do Cogah weapon releveling I'm going to roll with sideways figure 8 route in the northeast because I know that area like the back of my hand! 😻 Btw jumping is for traversal. also light single tap dodge doesn't roll and i'm not sure how useful it is but it is a thing...

[west bone]

Cus I know in elden ring jumping gives invulnerability to the bottom half of the character until you land, and I feel like that could be a cool mechanic to have in this game too

[iron temple]

It is more for traversal but is also actually moving so you sort of just use it as part of your positioning naturally usually in response to terrain or people/objects in the way of repositioning or to get to higher ground... 😄

[iron temple]

Also moving in general does make it harder for the opponents to aim well, especially ranged attacks...

[west bone]

Would be cool mechanic mainly for bosses, but probably would be too op with other mechanics like attacking mid air extending air time and bow slow drop etc

I just always felt so cool when I jumped a slash from a boss

[loud sinew]

am i dreaming

[west bone]

Yeah

[iron temple]

Cogah world vadagar bear just chain cc dpsed me out of Cogah, lol...😂

So I'm temporarily swapping my grace build pact from Orengall to Oscelda because I'm in a swamp with puddles and can easily keep up elderbloom heal. Also if I encounter bear in cogah again it is ranged only next time, assuming I decide to stay and fight, lol...

[bleak hawk]

Uhh how do I free the rest of the Sproutfolk? Did get one cage with the grappling hook, but the other 2 don't have anything to grapple on, and no other hook is around

... you can kill yourself with the cage LMFAO

[iron temple]

My Cogah weapon releveling run just switched from Rostrum Orengall to Juniper Oscleda, lol!...🤣

[knotty moon]

If the swing misses you then the hit doesn't register.
This can be from jump (works well with mace lady shockwaves) or flower pickups making you kneel under swings.
Generally speaking you are better off dodging though.

[iron temple]

Btw I've noticed that on occasion there is extra sproutfolk cages than the objective is looking for. I once encountered 6 when the objective said 3. I've also had ones that I couldn't interact with but doing the others first fixed it... 🤣

[bleak hawk]

Problem is I could only interact with 1, and I can only see the 2nd one; I can't find the third.

[iron temple]

Do be sure to record your solution here if you find one. Sorry I'm out of any specific ideas other then the generic inspect the area a bit more. Oh, one last suggestion, if you really want and it works you could as in in-game recruit channel for someone to come help if you want. also If you want to for sure beat this votive/tale and it is broken, I recommend that you go out of underground instance before relogging or it might just unaccept or drop the votive/tale... 😅

[loud sinew]

[iron temple]

Also there is a chance that just using a stone teleport and exiting the dungeon and coming back in just might reset that objective and it work again... 😄

[bleak hawk]

I am well aware things can be broken, it was easier to explain the situation here with a screenshot xD

I'll just get another votive, not big issue

[ebon wraith]

the elite mob near that chest drops a "specific" key for that chest while keys you have are mostly for circade dungeon entrance

[hasty dew]

and now we wait

[dusty hatch]

The unfortunate thing is that those chests only open with the specific key that the big enemy around them dropped. everytime you pick up such a key wihtout opening the chest, you add one to your inventory forever

[vague widget]

is there a way to release multiply totems or not yet

[ebon wraith]

Still waiting for that option

[iron temple]

Sorry for responding again so much later but additionally there is a non-regular jump that does strongly help avoid/dodge things, a movement tech for bow arrow hail charged alt attack, "arrow hail strafe gliding" is a thing! 😻

[vague widget]

ty

[iron temple]

If you are just after the harmony I recommend focusing on stacks that are worth more individually to hit your harmony point goal with less physical and mental effort and stress... 😅

[fluid ravine]

Can someone please tell me if anyone has been experiencing getting randomly flung into orbit since Preludes 13 patch

[vague widget]

i dont want any just looking for a quicker way to release

[fluid ravine]

It's like anything remotely applying physics to you gets you launched sky high

[iron temple]

My fave is with objects where they are jittering ready to go flying... I remember when ending up with things bouncy around the room frantically was a semi regular or easy to trigger phenomenon... 😅

[ebon wraith]

i have like 3 clips of enemy corpses flying around like in 0 gravity and if you hit them they fly in that direction hehe

[iron temple]

My 2nd fave is space launching defeated ragdolling opponents... 🤣

I used to encounter street lamps where the lantern part was rapidly teleporting back and forth! 😂

I think some shop and street signs are capable of some kind of jittering too...

On another note I remember how Cogah volumetric wind at least used to tend to extreme stretch smear and sway trees and plants constantly... 🤣

[pallid sentinel]

I've got this location several times, but I can't find this relic.

[iron temple]

Also buffs/debuffs with ui indicators such as cogah debuff, music stump virtue buffs, and especially virtue potion buffs tend to have weird physics of there own especially the last applied one being the most active. Last night I had a virtue buff potion indicator spinning around at high speed like a time fast forward thing!... 🤣

[iron temple]

Is there a light puzzle? Also there is a chance that the location indicator is slightly off in part if it is going general abstract instead of spot on specific... 😅

[pallid sentinel]

Light puzzle leads to another room that no have quest items.

[iron temple]

Feel free to exit re-enter the underground instance to reset if you really want btw...

It is nice to figure it out if it is possible tho so you can sort things out in the future faster tho...

[ebon wraith]

can you show screen of the place and not a map marker?

[pallid sentinel]

If I get it room again. So far the only thing that helps is restarting the dungeon to get a new quest.

[iron temple]

Sorry in advance for suggesting this, but just to cover bases and to help future folks using search here, I assume you have of course been pinging the area with soul mode radar as needed/wanted too?...

[ebon wraith]

Sometimes soulmode wont help because the lever/rope or w.e item you need to interact with is blocked with destructibles

[iron temple]

Oh so it isn't as xray like it is with harvesting plants?

[ebon wraith]

not really, puzzle items tend to be more hidden

[obtuse zealot]

hi all

[iron temple]

Heyas!

[ebon wraith]

#server-rules

[obtuse zealot]

hoo soory i delet my poste and il read this

sorry for my eng iam french

[hasty dew]

and done

[fallow arch]

40+ erstroot fragments and only 1 fragment for the headpiece and the armor wtf?

remove erstroot from the organ drop table

[scenic solar]

So what's special about Spirit now?

[tepid nexus]

Lowers cd of skills

[scenic solar]

Courage is ability strength and health, Grace is ability range and weakpoint bonus damage, Spirit is just ability duration from what I remember

[tepid nexus]

Its kinda bad atm since spirit weapons are weakest in game atm, esp with joinery nerf for magic weapons, and Cogah increases cd of skills

[scenic solar]

so ability duration and refresh?

They really need to not tie so much stuff to the virtues

[tepid nexus]

Only spirit skills (2nd green skill) scale with spirit only

[dawn arrow]

It seems multiple people including me were facing this issue, it is reported in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1472112528338194618

[empty birch]

Hey guys i have a question about the archer. I just started yesterday, but after a couple of hours this character is starting to become really boring. The skillset i got is basicly useless and all i can do in a fight is basic shoting which starting to feel really blunt. Will it became better after a couple more hours or should i start a mage or something?

[fallow arch]

thats kinda the point though

[scenic solar]

That's not a good point....

[tepid nexus]

Archery revolves around headshots due to huge dmg multiplier for headshots, but u can do some interesting builds with arrow hail as well

Dont forget u can have melee sidearm equipped as well

[scenic solar]

"oh wait, Courage is still too strong, let's nerf it some more, abilities are doing too much damage" also tanks player HP values

[tepid nexus]

Or u can go full grace with flint rune so u got perma inv with finishers and huge dmg so enemy cant even attack you 🤷

[ebon wraith]

not all enemies can be backstabbed sadly

[scenic solar]

Just saying when they tie multiple effects to the same value, 1 nerf will hit multiple things

[tepid nexus]

For those u got bow

[empty birch]

but will i get some power shot skills or something or its basic attack headshot all the way and these dodge, espace abilities?

[tepid nexus]

U can snipe them from so far they wont even aggro

[dawn arrow]

There is something called a rune, empowers your weapon

[tepid nexus]

No special skills for bow, skills are ties to pact not weapon

[ebon wraith]

i must say this is the worst item to farm....

[tepid nexus]

I crafted all items in game except +6 grace talisman and Rook, still need to lvl that last 3rd faction ❤️

[ebon wraith]

yeah i have everything aswell besides this damn talisman lol

[tepid nexus]

Hope we get ode bow next week

[scenic solar]

did they say if we're getting a patch next week because I doubt it

i'd expect just more hotfixes and no actual patches for another month or two

[trim oriole]

They've def changed somthing, i remember having trouble getting esteroot becuase i kept getting wish everytime

[fallow arch]

and it got nerfed into the ground

[trim oriole]

inconsequential tbh, was already useless

[fallow arch]

it gave some defenses

[trim oriole]

i didnt kill wraith a single time after getting esteroot

its like they flippped the drop rates around

[trim oriole]

not enough for it to be worth using though with the low virtues it gave

[empty birch]

uhmm guys, was there a softreset in the evening?

[trim oriole]

nope

explain?

[empty birch]

hmmm its seem like my yesterday evening progression after midnight is gone

i collected these animail souls and i only have the doe now. I also discovered this part of the map and now its gone

[trim oriole]

was you in coop?

[empty birch]

no

[trim oriole]

there use to be an issue that things wouldnt save if you closed the game too fast after doing somthing in coop

idk what to say about that really, thats not good if thats happening

[empty birch]

well i definietly didnt touch the coop part, but im sure i just closed the game from the task manager without logging out

[fathom elm]

best talisman in the game

w that shi u do like 500k per hit w deaelion

[normal sail]

you what

[ruby lily]

i'm so confused with that wazzard talisman your fragments is star is 3 star

[trim oriole]

although it shouldnt matter since it should be saved server side, that might be the reason

[pine warren]

I also thought wazzards wish was a 1 or 2 star

Yeah wth

[trim oriole]

fragments and the actual item done have the same stars

[pine warren]

Oh actually?

[ruby lily]

so that means there different star tiers of that talisman?

[trim oriole]

no

[ruby lily]

so why did i get 1 star your fragments are 3 star?

[trim oriole]

the fragment is 3star cause its kinda hard to get i guess, the actual item is 1 star becuase its big garbo

[ruby lily]

ah

i get it

haven't farmed that guy since prelude 12 in january

[trim oriole]

stars dont make any logical sense imo anyway, best not to pay attention to it

2 star

1 star apparently

[ruby lily]

yeah i get that

but i mean if you going fragments and talisman of the "item" best to keep the same amount of stars

[pliant flower]

Anyone else have the problem of parts of the map getting fogged up again after exiting the game?

[trim oriole]

guy like 10mins ago yeah

[ruby lily]

since it's the only item that has that problem i guess

[normal sail]

you'd be #2, best bet would be to log it in #1438224825113120788 so it'll be addressed Monday or later

[trim oriole]

nah, all the faction talismans show 2 stars in frags but 1 when crafted

[ruby lily]

i ment the 3 star frogment talisman not the others

so it's just that one

like i get it of paragon but yeah 🙂

[trim oriole]

the split virtue ones like bell jar, orengall and direskull aswell

ah for 3 star yeah its the only one

but overall its not an outlier

[ruby lily]

going check if that faction rep for me is still capped at 11794 faction xp like me and arkhanlight did after reset

we did only 2 star tales

to speed things up

[normal sail]

I'm waiting for the standing related stuff to be added before I slodge around Midrath going full faction grind

[atomic stirrup]

Found a giant fire fungus yesterday 😮 (couldn't be harvested) bug or future feature? 😄

[normal sail]

yes to both (we don't know)

[ruby lily]

yep still capped at 11794 faction for daily faction xp cap

so it's definitly not 16k for some reason

[trim oriole]

yeah, lest time the changed somthing with factions they reset all the standing, i went from max to 0

same reason why im not bothering with infamy, as soon as they make it do somthing you can bet its getting reset

[halcyon thicket]

Who knows

[normal sail]

for me it's just the large gap between the standing amounts versus the post-rank 3 amounts needed

[halcyon thicket]

There's a reason they added it

[sudden vessel]

Anyone have an extra Prelude code?

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-codes-nuclear-iron-man-gif-3065838672267246964

[normal sail]

or it could just be like the ominous floating cube from p12

[trim oriole]

they added it becuase they think its cool, but it does nothing atm

when it does do somthing they arent gonna let people who have 20k in it be done on day 1, 100% will be reset

[halcyon thicket]

They added it knowing some people will do that

[ruby lily]

they added so you say check my rep i'm good with the odes they love me 🙂

[trim oriole]

just saying man, i seen it all before manytime both here and in warframe

[normal sail]

idk it would be funny for a bit to see the chats full of people getting insta-swarmed by some very agitated ode

[ruby lily]

hahah

[trim oriole]

if you are one of the ones who grinded infamy, dont cope too hard and know what to expect

[ruby lily]

5 star ode army imagine

they'll be hey it's that guy who stole our wazzard robe fragments from the organ get him

[normal sail]

kamikaze an ode ship directly onto the envoy

[trim oriole]

i have a feeling they will move the robes to the wraith once they add the ode bow

and put the bow at organ

[ruby lily]

that would make a lot of sense if they did that

[smoky crater]

but... then it'd be just the bow in the droptable for the organ....

[ruby lily]

only worry might be the loottable for new players they might have it rough agian

[trim oriole]

probably put clivers back aswell

[ruby lily]

because we see how that worked out

[trim oriole]

ment to be 2 weapons coming so maybe the other will go there aswell

[smoky crater]

but...

[ruby lily]

what the seathorn? does it now stays? i heard someone saying it'll be removed?

[smoky crater]

wut

[trim oriole]

it wont be removed

[ruby lily]

like he said he heard from the dev saying the bow will be replaced from seathorn or something

[halcyon thicket]

That makes no sense

[normal sail]

i still think imho waste-wear should drop from, yknow, the guy who wears it.

[halcyon thicket]

How does it reduce anything if it's just replacing something

[smoky crater]

if they're adjusting sum numbers along the way?

[trim oriole]

it doesnt

as we saw on the first hotfix lol

[ebon wraith]

eartsroot which currently occupies organ drop table

[ruby lily]

i know

i saw that aswell

got my 100 earthroot from that place

[smoky crater]

seathorn was never mentioned
not in a way that something would be replacing it

[trim oriole]

ideally, eseroot removed from organ, Ode bow and Clivers drop from it, or whatever the other new weapon is

[ruby lily]

trying to make soup with it but the lady doesn't let unbelievable

it was said in a livestream

[trim oriole]

though it might be the bromius shield, in which case it makes sense to put it at vadagar bear

[ruby lily]

in a chat that's where he heard about it

a dev seems talked about it

[smoky crater]

[ruby lily]

eitherway it doesn't matter much 🙂

[normal sail]

i yearn for the bear shield that DE hopefully hasn't forgotten about

[smoky crater]

probably workin on animations etc and waiting for an update that it'd fit into

[tepid nexus]

Seems like a perfect bear drop tbh

[normal sail]

would be cool if they meddled with S&S and let you use different shields with different swords, but thats a huge ask

[halcyon thicket]

Would've been nice to add with the Vadagar bear tbh

[amber bolt]

Heya, noticed a graphical error which I'm finding a bit annoying although it doesn't impact too much the game.
Occasionally I see a black square appearing for like, a frame while I play and it's a bit distracting.
It's relatively recent.
I was wondering if anyone else had this and if/how they fixed it?

[smoky crater]

seen it a few times recently again yeah

[halcyon thicket]

Are you using dynamic resolution

Oh

Is it the one top left of the screen

[smoky crater]

usually yeah

[normal sail]

-# i only say this because I like Oryn-Umbr's shield, but the sword is eeeh

[amber bolt]

Same for me, top left or right now it happened in the middle

[hasty dew]

can anyone access soulframe wiki ?

[smoky crater]

please don't use fextralife ._.

just.. misinfo on top of outdated info and more

[ebon wraith]

https://wiki.avakot.org/ use this

[dawn arrow]

Scrap Brass is the most wanted material for me

[fallow arch]

https://wiki.avakot.org

[ebon wraith]

indeed... i have everything in thousands besides brass

[dawn arrow]

It is not the rarest material but the amount needed to craft things is much more than what we find

[normal sail]

what gets me is some recipes for 99% cloth armour still requiring brass/steel/iron.
like i got bookoos of leather burning in my inventory lol

[dawn arrow]

Just used all my brass to craft pending armors only to find out that mora's hand requires x55 brass ... oh noes ;3

[long sky]

how do i get acess to the game

[ebon wraith]

by watching a live stream/envoy hour by DE team or by buying any of the founder packs. another way is to register an account on official website and wait in line

[smoky crater]

next stream being on this coming weeks tuesday

[knotty moon]

Link is in the Event tab on top of the channels.

[ebon wraith]

worst item to farm ever

[trim oriole]

Orengall killed the last enemy from the cage trap and now it doesnt despawn and shes bugged lol

[normal sail]

oof, i had one spawn near one of the wall gates and had to snipe a healer ode 20ft away because it was still counting him as one of the remaining enemies

[trim oriole]

The trap despawned now

but she still just stands here

[amber bolt]

And with Seathorne I have now maxed all Arts for magick weapons!

[trim oriole]

i think replaying quests to change your virtues is not working

doing them all to pick the courage option but its not changing my virtues from what they were

[ebon wraith]

anyone here plays Ode tempest with gravitate and can confirm its working properly for them? seen quite a few videos people play with it like spiderman with just 2 points in and for the love of god i cant make it work at all... no matter if im 10 meters or 1 meter away fron enemies all he does is kick (by holding E or just pressing)

[trim oriole]

working fine, thats just 1 point in the node

[woeful crest]

Am i the only one that prefered to put virtues manually ? Was it really necessary to force everyone to use these prisms ?

[trim oriole]

prisms are a straight downgrade for now

[knotty moon]

Not the only one, there is quite a few vocal threads about it.

[trim oriole]

but when they add ones that have special effects and stuff maybe it will feel better

[woeful crest]

how ?

[trim oriole]

i will admit its thematically better than a + - buttons

[trim oriole]

ode tempest second node

gravitate

[woeful crest]

and there is none equilibrated in all stats

yeah but how do you activate it ? i can't use it on my side

[trim oriole]

E

[woeful crest]

gonna try this out, is there anything else that activates like that ?

[trim oriole]

not atm

[knotty moon]

Orengall's claw and Rood's headbutt, but they are straight kick substitute.

[woeful crest]

Well since i never use kicks i didn't know there was a special one for orengall too

well it doesn't work on my side, E doesn't have a keybind and doesn't do the gravitate effect

[trim oriole]

whatever your kick keybind is then

just rebind it to E if its not used for anything

[woeful crest]

for me it's just doing kicks durin fights

i tried the kicking and did nothing else than a simple kick

[knotty moon]

Out of curiosity, try to rebind E to the kick and try again.

[woeful crest]

works well on E, but maybe i was too close when i tried to "kick" to use gravitate

i have my anwser, i was just too close

[subtle moss]

I have a Question after a longer hiatus does bestone from oscelda still not work in co op?^^

[ebon wraith]

it does just your group members might break it

and if in cogah then duration is severely gutted

[wet tulip]

I tested it while being a host and a client. its mixed results some times it worked some times it doest

[ebon wraith]

do you use full spirit build?

[subtle moss]

I tested it my Friend was just watching. I was the the group member and 3 Groups and no one got bestoned. No full courage since the Skill now scale with courage^^

[stoic oxide]

Can I communicate with DE developers here?

[ebon wraith]

i used full courage the other day, most of the time it worked but duration is iffy in CO-OP

[stoic oxide]

I have some gameplay ideas.

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[wet tulip]

not in person. if you got ideas post them in feedback tab

[subtle moss]

In solo in works perfect in Co Op its just like half a year ago. Then I keep it for Singleplayer 😄

[ebon wraith]

many things are iffy in Co-op hope they work on it sooner then later

[subtle moss]

Yeah thanks for the input ^.^

[west wharf]

what are you supposed to do on top of the organ

[normal sail]

use the crosshairs to fully disassemble the organ

[ebon wraith]

play the organ

[west wharf]

how do you shoot

[ebon wraith]

aim the weakspots and press the numbers shown in the reticle

[west wharf]

thx

[dawn arrow]

Sooo, how does this work ... next prelude in 3-4 months?😭

[ebon wraith]

I'd say next Devstream they will discuss whats next

but overall big patches come in around that timeframe

[west wharf]

btw is there any form of quick travel in the game

[dawn arrow]

time-frame, i see what you did there ....

[ebon wraith]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Wevetseed

[normal sail]

and maybe an event soon™
-# grain of salt must be taken with the above message

[ebon wraith]

[normal sail]

i feel like we do need a spring/summer event to coincide with the other two seasonal events

[ebon wraith]

there most likely will be seasonal events

[dawn arrow]

Ihope the halloween masks return in a form or another, missed those

[normal sail]

we have Bita's Eve and Thawtide thus far

[ebon wraith]

im sure more will come once season hits

[velvet veldt]

yeah, as soon as that happens the people who like manually putting the points down are just going to ask for the powers and not the points heh

[trim oriole]

Problems gonna come when they add cool powers with bad distribution

[finite stone]

Yep, there's Fast Travel

[dawn arrow]

Ancient Roots from which you've grown, voicing seed take us home! 🌱

Sorry, for some reason I like this line, kinda spam it.

[mighty crystal]

i am bEGGING them to add some long straight hair as an option

i desperately need it

like waist length or even longer would be literally so perfect i think id die

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/into-the-woods-rapunzel-gif-26576827

[mighty crystal]

listen i need to feel like a faerie

[calm crown]

We need more sword&shield combos. I'm digging this play style

[ebon wraith]

shields are fun here true and one of dev streams they did say more coming

[trim oriole]

got that hammer and shield comming

[normal sail]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mad-skeleton-gif-10886506202898815019

can't wait for our version of Skyrim Skeleton/Warframe Xaku gif

[trim oriole]

you can already do the animation with tetheren 3

we just need an appropriate skin

[lofty iron]

Are the Servers down or Something?

[smoky crater]

shouldn't be

why?

[lofty iron]

Cant acces the Game. IT says Update Servers Not available

[plain isle]

does anyone know what quest my friend needs to get to for me to join his game? he just joined silent rose enclave after the stag quest

[brittle nacelle]

you can join each other once you finish setting up your character

[plain isle]

he was able join me, but i am unable to join his for some reason

[brittle nacelle]

what's the issue?

you get an error, him?

[tranquil osprey]

Cant believe I'm so late to the party but I JUST found out I can roll over pots to break them instead of attacking each one 😅

[wary laurel]

QUEST - ive entered the bear cave and the final fight im trapped in a room with cerberus-bear but i get killed everytime even with my spirit-wolves as help, i suck and my gear is weak... can i roll back on my saves, to prior event to bear cave?

[smoky crater]

spoiler alert: you can do it with crates and barrels too

[tranquil osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-whistle-hud-G5JoAjEBtfoTm

[smoky crater]

no way to roll back saves because everythign is auto saved fairly often and it's a serverside save.
you can get out of the cave by relogging tho

[cosmic compass]

When is the next dev stream for a chance to get a code ?

[sly escarp]

There's no currently scheduled Devstream, but there is an Envoy Hour on Tuesday that will have access as a twitch drop

[cosmic compass]

Does that mean you’d only be able to play for 1 hour during the stream ?

[sly escarp]

No

It means if you watch the stream for 30 minutes you get access to the pre alpha

[cosmic compass]

Ah nice one I’ll try make sure I’m there !

[normal sail]

and that access will remain until the solar death of the universe

[sly escarp]

Make sure to link your Soulframe and Twitch account ahead of time!

[cosmic compass]

Any idea what sort of time of the day

[sly escarp]

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1469343055785103402

[cosmic compass]

Thanks!

[plain isle]

i didn't get an error

[loud sinew]

where is this big boi

[sly escarp]

Look for the bubbling blue and black puddle

[normal sail]

-# puzzle?

[sly escarp]

puddle

thx autocorrect

[normal sail]

was gonna say either autocarrot or naito needs a couple more zzz's lol

[sly escarp]

Bit of both

[normal sail]

meanwhile i am somehow functioning being up since 9pm last night.

its 11am

[sly escarp]

Getting the alpha build out for Friday was a bit intense

Need to catch up on sleep this week

[loud sinew]

thanks, he found me. Does he not have like a little mushroom of its loot?

[sly escarp]

Only Agari have Mushrooms

[loud sinew]

[sly escarp]

The world bosses are called Agari

[tardy veldt]

whats the best way to get virtue prisms?

[loud sinew]

just googled, the ones that have a fixed respawn timer and not like the bear, which has a "random" location and only nighttime

[sly escarp]

Factions are the only way, though you can get 2 Starter prisms aside from your current one for free by just talking to the faction heads. The others must be bought from Faction Shops.

[loud sinew]

i wonder what the reasoning behind that would be, would make sense to place down a little shroom for all of them or neither of them

[sly escarp]

They're classed differently by the game.

Not all bosses are agari, but all agari are bosses

The Agari loot tables also change during Cogah, and they drop the Cogah neclaces if killed in Cogah

[loud sinew]

Well yes, but the reasoning as to why no shrooms for everyone, isnt clear to me yet. Is it like a story thing?

[sly escarp]

Yeah

The Agari are basically addicted to the Agaric Mushrooms and have become...a bit mad

[loud sinew]

Crackheads, checks out

thanks

is there a use yet for these "sorcerer towers"? I remember climing them back in p10 i believe, not much over there

[smoky crater]

nop

[brittle nacelle]

ok quick trouble shooting for joining people;
always invite from friend list if you're friends it works best
if you need to invite from chat, make sure your party is opened (if you don't have squad chat it's not open, press esc and then the large plus on top left
if all else fails both of you restart the app

[dry bridge]

so did sparrow tales get removed? im not getting any in the open world and the only way i seem to get the standing is from the organ

[sly escarp]

Organ doesn't give Faction Rep, Sparrow Tales were moved to start from the World Trees

[warm root]

Servers down?

[sly escarp]

Don't believe so

[dry bridge]

no im in game right now

[warm root]

That is weird...

[amber bolt]

Have a votive that requires me to finish this puzzle, the statue has the light beam hitting it but it still gives me the message :c

[raven basin]

Question, does your overall mastery affect how much Virtue each Prism gives? My friend started recently, but Wyld Oscelda prism only gives him 21 points, while mine is at 26.

(To Spirit)

[sly escarp]

The Prism only allocates your points

Your point total is partiall determined by your Envoy Rank

[raven basin]

Okay so it is as I suspected and mastery affects it

[finite stone]

When you hit the statue, did a doorway open or some vines move?

[amber bolt]

There were vines but they didn't move at all

[finite stone]

Is there any way you could redirect the light back off the statue and onto it again?

Once the light hits the plate, it's meant to open a passageway behind/next to it - if that's not happening there's a chance it could be bugged

[amber bolt]

Tried logging out, hopefully I can get it to work

[amber bolt]

Yup, I tried several times to change the light direction

[finite stone]

Rip, hopefully the relog works for you though! 🙏

[marsh cargo]

Hi guys. Question: is it possible to select a different permanent virtue bonus after replaying a fable? I am not happy with my choices (I picked spirit twice lol)

[halcyon thicket]

Which fable

[marsh cargo]

Orengall/Bromius both give one.

[past drift]

Can anyone confirm that https://wiki.avakot.org/Basker's_Wrest Baskers Wrest actually drops from T3 King missions?

I'm only getting Tempest stuff

[sly escarp]

Ended up buying it from the Kith store, cannot confirm it drops unfortunately

[tranquil sonnet]

There are two in that area

[amber bolt]

I'll look more carefully next time

[tranquil sonnet]

I've had it happens when I've gotten a votive like that sometimes two will spawn because of the natural generation of the undercity plus the one that spawn because of the votive.

The map is your freind you should look at it often when doing votives in the undercity.

[plain isle]

thank you for your help

[marsh cargo]

It does

[marsh cargo]

So can they be changed? 🥹

[rigid chasm]

How excited are you all for the upcoming changes?

[ebon wraith]

if you replay the said quest

[marsh cargo]

❤️

[exotic gale]

ew wtf

gtfo here

[willow herald]

key to testing the game ?

[placid jackal]

i'm stuck here, which button am I supposed to press to play the song? i'm playing with a controller

[sly escarp]

Gotta find the other notes

Follow the birb!

[placid jackal]

thanks ! it worked

[kind roost]

whats up with small chest and how do i open it

[ebon wraith]

jump above it and slowly go down to find the sweet spot

[magic silo]

hey guys ! New here, loving the game, I was curious as to what are the multiplayer/co-op aspects of the game ?

[gaunt void]

can play with up to 2 other people; you just invite to or join someone else's world and do all the same things you can do solo

progress on fables is shared if you're on the same step, but i think it's a bit buggy sometimes

[visual radish]

Yeah story quests are known to bug out in mp

[normal sail]

alot of things bug out in mp lol

[narrow condor]

grace affects attacks on downed enemies now right?

[narrow condor]

also does your game looks like this? is there a way to change the metallic like shades

[full hearth]

Idk what's up with yours

[ebon wraith]

what system are you running it on?

[narrow condor]

low settings, all disabled

[ebon wraith]

i mean PC not ingame settings

all low might make the game look like that tho

[frigid spoke]

Turn on setting one at a time and see how it improves

[narrow condor]

okie

i think its with sunset

[bleak hawk]

hey quick question

How do I cancel a forge process? ._.

i swear to god i aint seeing ANY button to cancel it

[ebon wraith]

well you have a tiny bit better CPU then i do and if you have decent graphics card no reason to run all low

[ebon wraith]

sadly there isnt any at this time

[bleak hawk]

oh okay

[halcyon thicket]

Enable high shader quality

[narrow condor]

okie will do

[prisma crescent]

Are nights shorter than they used to be?

I swear, night cycle is only 15 minutes now

[idle otter]

so can you do anything with spare fragments that you not longer need ?

[narrow condor]

Ok yeah that fixed it

[smoky crater]

collect them

[prisma crescent]

you could theoretically make more of the weapon fragments, but the armor fragments you can't

[smoky crater]

you mean... more weapons out of the fragments?

[prisma crescent]

yea

[halcyon thicket]

Sadly little reason now

[prisma crescent]

if you wanted to be nuts, you could put each blessing and temper on every weapon

[full hearth]

[prisma crescent]

is there a way to check faction rep outside of actually visiting the enclave?

[half talon]

Not at this time.

[blissful flower]

can you?

i thought reforging it again changed the thing on it not added a new one

[woeful crest]

Am i really that unlucky to not have dropped more than one frag for the seathorn on approximatively 40 T3 tales ?

[blissful flower]

yes i have 3 frags in 30 t3s

[woeful crest]

I think it's supposed to overwrite the last one you put, but i didn't try myself putting another one onto it, i don't have the luxury to do it

Man the drop is so low on this too (also feels like Cogah Runes drop rate have been lowered so much, i didn't get any rune by doing almost all surface bosses

[long grove]

they meant crafting a weapon for each joinery

[woeful crest]

Oh yeah you could theorically do it, just cost a lot of ressources and a lot joineries to do

[hexed spoke]

Can anyone confirm if the current max possible envoy level is 17 or 18?

[halcyon thicket]

17

[trim oriole]

17

i done everything and im a bit off 18 still

[finite stone]

Welcome! Everything multiplayer is explained at https://wiki.avakot.org/Multiplayer let me know if there's anything missing you wanted to know!

[finite stone]

yup, even for people with Fey Pact mastered they can get to like 17.95 hahah

[narrow condor]

are t3 tales having 4 missions intended

[frigid spoke]

they are supposed to be longer 4 can happen

[proud monolith]

does "any T3" mean the quests from world tree?

[frigid spoke]

Yeah

One with three stars

[thorny glen]

you found every mote, ofc, right?

[trim oriole]

yep

[wet rivet]

Is it looks like 17.95 ?

[thorny glen]

looks about right

it's not that hard to get there, just get every pact, and every weapon to 30

and every lore mote

[trim oriole]

100% of everything single thing there is to do in game right now is done

[thorny glen]

all armors and talismans are still optional for account leveling

as in , they don't do anything

the worst case 100% is every item, every spirit x3 at max level, and every weapon reinforced at least once

[prisma crescent]

does reinforcing even do anything for your level?

[trim oriole]

nah

[prisma crescent]

I do wish identical reinforced spirits that were leveled would stack

[trim oriole]

Reinforcing every item is a pointless venture, i just do it for stuff i actually use

[thorny glen]

well yea. but it's still something to do

[trim oriole]

i mean i could do to the black smith and click reinforce on every weapon if i want

[thorny glen]

Lord knows, early warframe also ran out of things to do

[trim oriole]

not much point though

i dont mine not having anything to do atm

im happy waiting for next content, the point where ive finished everything is why i play anyway, i like being done

[thorny glen]

same, but i'm only missing that damn spear from the stag, i hate not having bad luck protection

i've been stuck at 2/3 fragments for over a week now

[prisma crescent]

that's also the last weapon for me to unlock

but I think it's only 1/2 for me

I think it's a 2 fragment recipe

[thorny glen]

it is not since i have 2/3

Gathannan

[frigid spoke]

that's a 2 frag recipe

[thorny glen]

ok hold on

[frigid spoke]

not sure why you have 2/3

[past schooner]

So does feybalt on magick increase atack range when it says throw distance?

[frigid spoke]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Gathannan

[trim oriole]

i would donate if i could

[thorny glen]

ah, my bad, i have 1/2

[rugged plover]

whats a fun weapon for orengall

was planning to do a courage spirit buil

(i wanna wear mendicant hence the courage)

[prisma crescent]

I've definately killed plenty

[trim oriole]

tessard maybe

[thorny glen]

same

[narrow condor]

max grace flitsmoke short blade with smite courage duration totem. 1 --> go to camp --> kill, proc smite refreshes 1 --> go to another camp again

[prisma crescent]

I see the chestpiece is your bane

[thorny glen]

anything but the weapon

[slim portal]

so.. each Arc costs 0.024 Euros with Sash of Arcs(3300 Arcs one)...

Gathannan costs 230 arcs... That's 5.5 euros. Considering that i have not have even 1 fragment of that bloody thing, i could've gotten it under 11 minutes of real life grind

[thorny glen]

last kill they gave me daggers

[slim portal]

this seems like a nice deal

https://giphy.com/gifs/pensando-ragebait-macaco-rieB6hYg1l15KrJJnk

[thorny glen]

i'm not buying my last weapon when i have half of it already

[slim portal]

i have not even 1 frag

[thorny glen]

how mnay stags did you kill?

[slim portal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fb5lozVxhBwVFFByW8

[trim oriole]

never buy weapons or armour

why pay to not play the game?

[slim portal]

not as much as you, but more than 25 at this point

[halcyon thicket]

Honestly i bought seathon cause the grinding is ridiculous right now

And I'm a little salty with DE atm

[prisma crescent]

seathorn wasn't a bad grind

[thorny glen]

the only thing i've spent arcs on is weapon slots because the game doesn't tell me what weapons i've mastered, so i just collect lvl 30 weapons instead of selling and guessing what i had

[trim oriole]

idm tales grind tbh

[prisma crescent]

I bought weapon and pact slots

[halcyon thicket]

The experiences vary which is the outlier here

[trim oriole]

i just spam them buy shimmers whenever i max standing

[narrow condor]

depends, the important thing is ull have fun. if getting the weapon is fun and grinding is hell why not

[slim portal]

because after a while that grinding becomes not fun

[thorny glen]

tales grind is only worth the daily cap, like 12 a day

[slim portal]

if i have 1 to 2 hours at max to play i dont want to spend my time grinding the same damn thing for a month

[thorny glen]

my condolences

[halcyon thicket]

I was r5 with all factions, barely any xp in all 3, i maxed all 3 and only 1 fragment

[trim oriole]

but if you pay to skip the grind you miss everything you gain doing it plus if its your last thing have no reason to play now

fun or not doesnt make sense to skip it

[thorny glen]

since the organ update?

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[thorny glen]

they should make shards tradable when they add "wylde" variants, the prime versions of weapons

[halcyon thicket]

Cause I'd rather not farm the same thing over and over, it can't be the only reason I log in cause that is not fun

[slim portal]

i dont mind the grind at all, it has to be a progress, not pure rng

if i get the same fragment for 50 times without actually hitting a jackpot once, that feels like casino

[trim oriole]

eh to each their own i guess

[halcyon thicket]

They need to do what Crimson desert does, gear behind quests

[slim portal]

they simply need to implement a pity system

i dont mind the rng grind but it has to have a limit

[halcyon thicket]

Agreed

[prisma crescent]

it's not the fact that it's a little rng thast bothers me... but I only have 1 fragment of one and double digits of everything else!

what gives with that?

[slim portal]

it's the curse of rngesus

the more you want it, the less the chance for you to get it

[long grove]

just how it be sometimes

[thorny glen]

yea, even warframe has single digit % drops

but then again, it has trading

[trim oriole]

warframe has less than 1% drop rates even

[halcyon thicket]

Oh and btw

[narrow condor]

1 run is like 1-2 mins with titania or nova in warframe tho

[halcyon thicket]

Once u get a fragment of a gear, the drop chance for that fragment increases lmao

[long grove]

done 60m disruptions not getting the 1 relic I want even, but it's fine

[prisma crescent]

it's also the weird timegating and inconsistant spawning that makes farming it a pain

[past schooner]

Gonna guess the check on my question means yes

[slim portal]

in warframe almost everything is tradeable

so the low drop chance is not a problem

[halcyon thicket]

What was it

[trim oriole]

i don't particularly think everything has to easily obtainable, if they want somthing to have 0.5% drop chance on somthing you can only do once a day and most people will never get it, thats fine with me

but i dont agree with that item being sold

then its just dirty

[slim portal]

i would rather have the alternative of it being sold

i dont see why that's bad

[long grove]

I mean sure on some things, don't see it as necessary for everything

[thorny glen]

well yea, no one wants to farm 5 hours for 10$ of currency

but some people like the gameplay more than the rewartd

[slim portal]

we simply need the marketplace and trading here too

it's a very natural system that works really nicely imho

[thorny glen]

maybe when prime versions get added

[pallid root]

I just hope we don't have to wait some ~10 years for a "sell all dupes" feature like we did Warframe mods.... :D

[slim portal]

i have a bad news for you

[pallid root]

Well I haven't sold any dupe fragments yet because who knows what they'll decide to use them for, maybe we can melt them down to make Kane a trophy to fix her depression

[thorny glen]

not fragments, but spirits

[pallid root]

oh yeah, gonna need one for those as well

[thorny glen]

sell all but 3, will take some time to get added

[slim portal]

the useful spirits are so few that maxing them wont even hurt that currency

so i keep everything

[trim oriole]

i dissolved about 300 totems before it got old

def need a mass option on that sooner rather than later

[slim portal]

the whole UX is really bad though

most specifically around UI

the UI literally tells you nothing

it's one of the most confusing UI's that i have seen in a game

[long grove]

well priorities are elsewhere, understandable at this point

[pallid root]

We'll need a View All Totems facility and View All Fragments facility at some point, I guess you can do that from the main inventory already, maybe just adding a Sell Dupes button there would be fine.

[past schooner]

Asked if feybalt increased cast range on magick

[slim portal]

i mean, that's normal since it's alpha, but i'm just saying it

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[trim oriole]

it does

[past schooner]

Aight because "throw" doesn't really make sense for it

[halcyon thicket]

True

[thorny glen]

is crypt pots the best leather 1 star farm?

[slim portal]

we need a searchbar here asap

it shouldnt be that hard to implement, unless they havent indexed the items

[halcyon thicket]

We barely have any items😭

[slim portal]

my totem category is full af

[halcyon thicket]

Oh right totems

[trim oriole]

they havent even bothered to add greatsword to the filter, dont hold your breath of a search bar anytime soon 🤣

[halcyon thicket]

But what are you typing in the search bar

[slim portal]

SQUIRREL

[halcyon thicket]

U gonna tell me u memorized the totem names

[slim portal]

DEER

RAT

[past schooner]

BEAVER

[long grove]

armor

[halcyon thicket]

Honestly they might not even have those names coded lmao

[thorny glen]

i need around 300 patched leather(t1 leather), any idea the best place to farm them?

[dire helm]

STAFF, SWORD, Pollarm

[past schooner]

DUCK

[long grove]

smite

[halcyon thicket]

Drops from most Ode'n enemies

[slim portal]

serious answer? you got some dracs?

[long grove]

pffft, we're going nuts now but yeah. who knows if totems will continue as they are tho

[thorny glen]

he doesn't sell them all the time :(

[slim portal]

camp next to Oro's Well

[past schooner]

Brass is still my worst enemy

[slim portal]

inside the cave the cabbage is always there

just come back every rotation

you will eventually get the leather

[thorny glen]

anyone got a screenshot where that is on the map?

[past schooner]

I have like 300+ of all the other metals but I can never seem to have enough brass

[kind roost]

making an odiac/rook regent armor cour/spirit hybrid build what pact should i go for any suggestions ?

[thorny glen]

thank you

[narrow condor]

has anyone reached 1 mil dracs now xD

[thorny glen]

i was doing brass runs borrowing arena invites just to farm them

[prisma crescent]

I imagine so, I'm well over 900k and people have played more/longer than me

[long grove]

if you see an endless taxi in recruiting chat, join, leave, loot the racks, and repeat. make sure to leave their game before looting tho

[past schooner]

It's just tedious doing that

[slim portal]

im dracs poor

never have enough of it

[past schooner]

Especially since even if I get polearm or spear racks I rarely get brass drops

[narrow condor]

its alright avocado is funding a full scale revolution with ur dracs

[long grove]

that's less tedious than curlail at least

[slim portal]

werent the thawtide event the easiest way to farm it

[slim portal]

breaking squawkers used to give you a lot

[long grove]

that's some dracs

[slim portal]

oh wait scrap brass wasnt part of that

[prisma crescent]

spear racks, and killing cannons gave me brass

[slim portal]

i used to do a lot of banneret kill runs

i guess that's how i got all these

[thorny glen]

the thing is, once you craft everything you need, you barely need anymore

[slim portal]

still havent even crafted most of the things

not enough time to farm dracs, that's my limitation

[long grove]

that's just the way of things

[slim portal]

[thin geyser]

i think my account is bugged ive waited 2 days and came back and still not getting faction xp

[prisma crescent]

there needs to be a better source of nethcap in the game, that or include Neath'uns in more repeated content

[thorny glen]

any advice on drac farm? (chest locations and stuff)

[slim portal]

the underdark

[thin geyser]

it wont let me go past 28499 xp

[slim portal]

the dungeon, break stuff

what was it's exact name

[thorny glen]

not the cypt t3?

crypt

[slim portal]

in crypt t3 your goal is to finish the tale as fast as possible

the dungeon has more breakables

[thorny glen]

no, it's to open 3 tombs

also alot of pots

[slim portal]

yeah, which means to finish the tale asap

[thorny glen]

hmm

[slim portal]

most of the the last 1 or 2 tombs are through exit

it depends on your luck

so you RUN RUN RUN with sparrow guiding you

[sinful scarab]

quick question, is there a way to avoid taking fall damage without using weapons or pacts?

[thorny glen]

land often

otherwise use ranged weapon aim to break gravity

[slim portal]

but with "without part"

my answer would be "dont fall"

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sinful scarab]

Well, the thing is i managed to leave the hut as a kid envoy during rise envoy fable and I’m trying to air drop him inside nightfold and he can’t use weapons or pacts, for scientific purposes

[thorny glen]

so i just pillage the undercity for chests?

for money?

[prisma crescent]

do any of the animations on the x-wheel menu stall your fall?

[thorny glen]

nope, it anvils your character

does anyone have a full map of PoI? i want to compare completion

[high sequoia]

do we know if progress will transfer over once the game is fully releases?

[thorny glen]

no more resets, they said

[sly escarp]

No planned mandatory resets going forward

[valid herald]

Someone spanish ?

[scenic solar]

Talisman question: For the Triune Talisman, does it consume the Dawn, Dusk, and Midnight Pendants, or do we get to keep them?

[frigid spoke]

consumed

[scenic solar]

are we able to get extras?

[frigid spoke]

no, but they combine into a better tali so no point in keeping em

[prisma crescent]

you can reget the lower talasmans

[sly escarp]

Once it's crafted you can get the 3 base talismans via the same method again

[scenic solar]

Okay. And the point would be completionism

[cobalt delta]

I fear I have a skill issue, the first boss killed me xD

[prisma crescent]

was stag the first boss?

[cobalt delta]

Yup

Got filtered by Stag

[finite stone]

Death is not the end Envoy, fly back and mess it up

[prisma crescent]

he's a scampery little guy

luckly with infinate respawns, you can apply head to rock untill rock breaks

[cobalt delta]

I had issues with the health potions not resetting between phases xD
Plus the aiming skill issue. I'll get there, but it may take a lil while xD

[cobalt delta]

Thank you for the encouragement tho :D

[prisma crescent]

if you feel you need help though, feel free to invite me

[cobalt delta]

For today I'll take a break, already midnight over here, but thank you for the offer ^^

[prisma crescent]

goodluck and goodnight

[candid star]

Hello! So- new player question- I presume the pact system is like a class system of sorts- and courage and grace make sense, but what exactly is spirit? And how do spirit and grace play early on?

[prisma crescent]

spirit is mostly ability cooldown

grace is crit damage, and I swear it makes it easier to sneak up behind unaware enemies

when I do my full grace build, I can run around backstabing half a camp without needing to crouch at all

[candid star]

An- gotcha, thx!

[exotic gale]

NE still the best place to farm faction?

[long grove]

if you use flitsmoke, it erases enemy awareness of sprinting/walking after you use it

[old heron]

can u change your frame from male to female ?

[long grove]

yes at verminia

[prisma crescent]

I use flintsmoke, but even without it, it's easy to critstab people

[old heron]

this is for me ?

[prisma crescent]

if you kill everything in 1 hit, you can't get your pullsmites off

[long grove]

well yes, I mean it does it forever after you use it which is why you can sprint up on enemies

I have taken advantage of that for a long while

[long grove]

yes

[languid escarp]

i noticed i could run up behind and backstab with full grace, my courage setup they notice

[old heron]

okay thank you

[prisma crescent]

sure, but my point was about how grace operates in the game, not what runes to use

[open prawn]

How do you get feybolt?

[nocturne oriole]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Feybalt

[open prawn]

ty

[smoky crater]

polished one drops a good amount from the crypts

[open prawn]

tysm

[nocturne oriole]

That wiki has imo the best game info

[open prawn]

I see

[long grove]

i know this, but grace does not affect it like this. it's because of you having previously activated flintsmoke, not cuz of grace.

[thorny glen]

can anyone share their map for completion? i want to compare and see what i'm missing

[nocturne oriole]

Is it even possible to get to the island anymore? Whats there?

[thorny glen]

my thanks

yea i was missing far west

[long grove]

someone can teleport you there, and it's just a world tree arm. whatever is gonna be there ain't made yet

[nocturne oriole]

Ill send you a DM

[thorny glen]

last time i did that, after a relog, it was locked again

[nocturne oriole]

I remember it was possible to gltch over there. Clopped through the world a few times trying!

[long grove]

try try try again! second time I've heard that one tho, odd

[tepid nexus]

Many ppl dont know this but enemies dont notice u if u jump so if sprint jump constantly u move at sprinting speed and u can backstab as much as u want

[nocturne oriole]

@atomic veldtIll send you one

[long grove]

it was before but every time we find one, they close it off later

[long grove]

idk if this is true without having procced flintsmoke before, cuz they definitely react to landings and sprinting without it

[placid jackal]

what am i suppose to do with this thing???

[thorny glen]

break it

[smoky crater]

hit it

[tepid nexus]

I literally do it all the time

[long grove]

throw your weapon at it

[tepid nexus]

I can clear whole camps like that

And yes i have flintsmoke but for ppl without its a good alternative

[nocturne oriole]

They can be used as environmental damage to nearby enemies when you hit it with a bow or throw.

[prisma crescent]

It's not listed on the wiki, but I swear grace lowers enemy detection on you without flintsmoke

it's almost jarring after switching builds you can't just sprint up to enemies to assassinate them