gameplay-discussion

[trim oriole]

feels bad man

[thorny glen]

it's duck season

[vital sable]

yey they exist

[sly escarp]

Nice!

[vital sable]

now to get 2 more and be done with totems

[kind roost]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-season-rabbit-season-gif-13823200

[idle otter]

i have played now a while, like around 15 hours and i have some questions

1. are thyere any differences between the normal and the founder variant pacts besides the name
2. now that since the update i see that virtue points are no longer bound to pacts, what makes a 3 star pact then a 3 star pact ?
3. am i right in the assunpion that you can only join another faction once you have one faction leveled to level 3 to get the item to craft one of the other talismans ?

[kind roost]

you need to hit lvl 5 on faction then you can swap

[deep compass]

no, lvl 3 is enough

[halcyon thicket]

Level 3

[frigid spoke]

You don't "need" to hit lvl 5

[knotty moon]

1. None, but the Arts point stack, they used to have higher Virtue bonuses, but those were removed from all Pacts.
2. Rating doesn't matter on Pacts.
3. Yes.

[kind roost]

really someone told me 5 here

[idle otter]

was about to say that is quite big of an ask if im not happy with my starter faction

[kind roost]

i picked sirin armor i need is in alcas magic classes starter faction

[knotty moon]

Sacred Shimmer is sold at the third rank.

[deep compass]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Sacred_Shimmer

you need that, and for that you need to be lvl 3

[long grove]

alca won't sell alca gear, each faction sells the two other starter gear they don't embody

[kind roost]

oh thats why those neckalces want weird material to craft

[deep compass]

yes, get lvl 3, get 7500, buy that item, and craft talisman you need

[kind roost]

i can only get orengall armor from alcas chest piece has a chance of dropping from collector in the wiki i read

[modest light]

does anyone know if rep has been changed now that you receive tales from the trees? like does farming in the NE part of the map still more beneficial?

[long grove]

ah sounded like you were after the alca starter gear

[long grove]

yes, tales are now tied to trees and area level is still important

[knotty moon]

Still level based, NE is still 30-40.

[long grove]

NE still the best

[kind roost]

been farming weaver to get rune fire one isn't bad either tho i like it

[modest light]

kk ty, just been constantly finding dungeons in the NE one and was wondering if each tree is different

[crystal edge]

Fixed a progression stop after flying the post-death sparrow into an Ode grinder. Please stop doing this.

[ornate geyser]

does anyone have a key they could donate to this poor soul ?

[idle otter]

whats NE

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1469343055785103402
You can get one by watching this with a linked account.

[modest light]

north-east

[long grove]

northeast

[vital sable]

feels great

[halcyon thicket]

That doesn't really show that u have every totem available in the game

[halcyon thicket]

@grim flume

[vital sable]

it does, thats compedium

[modest light]

uhhh does the relog trick still work for anyone? i think they may have just patched it in the latest update

i'm abandoning then relogging but the quest still stays afterwards

[long grove]

relogging doesn't abandon tales

[idle otter]

question whats the fastest way to get the teleport seeds.

I think a few hours ago i had a bug and ranomdly got a stupid amount like 90

[knotty moon]

You can abandon it at the tree.

[long grove]

it'll reset non boss spawns and resources

[modest light]

if you abandon it then relog, it reset which tale you get given

at least that's what happened with me before

[long grove]

I think that's more rng, cuz it has just as much chance to be the same quest as another

[halcyon thicket]

I know, it shows duplicates seperately, so if u have a max rank totem and r0, it'll add up in the compendium

[modest light]

no like, i would abandon the tale, it'll disappear, i relog, but the tale stays as if i never abandoned it in the 1st place

[kind roost]

#gameplay-discussion message could i get an answer i don't want to waste mats if there is a better option

[knotty moon]

Total also goes up though.

[vital sable]

whats important is that both numbers match, which means i have every totem, at least 1 of each

[modest light]

but beforehand, if i do this, i could choose a new tale like before

[long grove]

yeah, but completing it number for number still means you have everything. Just cuz it can go up by making dupes won't make the number go down unless you upgrade the only totem you have

[vital sable]

im only missing 1 extra duck for 3, but im glad i finished the collection

[sly escarp]

Blessed by Sapphene Quicksilver might be better if you're doing a full grace build

[kind roost]

yes it is full grace thx

[knotty moon]

I joined the completed compendium club.

[long grove]

that damn duck!

[vital sable]

now go get 3 of each for 101%

[knotty moon]

Meh, don't really care.
Didn't even rank up all of them.

[vital sable]

neither have I, but i get 3 of each, just cuz

[halcyon thicket]

Somehow I'm still missing 4, 184/188

[vital sable]

thankfully u can see the animal

for what i hear its probably rats, most likely tunneler

[thorny glen]

btw does the daily rep cap reset the same time as warframe (in about 3 hours)?

[knotty moon]

More or less.

[long grove]

yes

[thorny glen]

game needs to fix rep cap notification and level numbers when i finish a mission, it's getting daunting to see "rep 84,000" after my first mission of the day

[half swift]

man i need to learn what dungeons to not go to the end of and instead exit out of the entrance. keep getting sent to the starting area. though sticking around mid for a bit

did it 3 times with the same dungeon lol so use going to the end.

[rugged plover]

with the prism changes done? how do i make orengall good?

[smoky crater]

Get a spirit+grace split prism

[rugged plover]

id need to join alca for that....

[smoky crater]

Or rose

[rugged plover]

ughhh

is mora even worth farming for

[smoky crater]

Mora's hand?

[rugged plover]

yur

[smoky crater]

Definitely

[rugged plover]

last i heard it was contradictory

since it wants to be hit but also kept stunni g

[smoky crater]

But there's no faction switching cooldowns anymore so that you don't gotta worry about

[rugged plover]

or has that been fixed

its more the issue is how long it takes to get standing

[smoky crater]

Completely optional, but it is how the 2nd ability works yes

I honestly dont use 2 a lot at all

[rugged plover]

last i played was prelude 11? and each of the 3 star faction thingies would only give like 350 standing

[smoky crater]

Like if i have a feeling that i might get hit during a larger fight, i'll use it

[rugged plover]

i see i see

[smoky crater]

Now 3 stars in NE give 1100 iirc

[rugged plover]

yesssss finally

wait

[knotty moon]

1450

[rugged plover]

im not ne...

why do my feet spawn flowers

[smoky crater]

oh wait yeah... and was it 1700 for the nonexistant 40-50 tales...

[sour garnet]

Man, p13 has been frustrating so far...

[limber sundial]

For Oscelda, would a sort of hybrid of Courage + Spirit make sense if I intend to try and leverage Bestone and the healing bloom? If so, what might I want to sort out when it comes to gear and joinery? I also am not sure what the...animal totems? I'd want to use are.

[tepid nexus]

Could work as a paladin build why not. Havent really tried it yet so cant help with specifics

[limber sundial]

I figured that Courage would affect Bestone but I don't know how, since they'd mentioned in the stream that it would be how they intend to scale stuff right? Ability scaling with their respective virtues?

[sly escarp]

Prelude Honours talisman

[knotty moon]

I ran that to level the new Magick weapons, works well enough.

I used Tuvalkane's armor with it iirc.
Mendicant King's should be better.

[limber sundial]

Ah neat. I guess I will work on more of the Mendicant fights to try and get that set while I hopefully source the Wazzard parts. With joinery, would I want to use the Blessed tier ones only?

[knotty moon]

I have yet to use a Blessed.

[calm bough]

Rewards in Cogah aren’t the same for everyone?

I thought they always were

[knotty moon]

For animal totems the virtue rework doesn't change a whole lot, just use what you like.
Personally I always run with Smite chance, Armor strip/bypass, and Magick defense.

[rugged plover]

ahhh, thank you now question is why is my mendicant king stone

[grim frigate]

what is it? how can i interact if can i?

[sly escarp]

He always starts as a statue

Ring the bell

[rugged plover]

ohhh yhhh

been a while sorry

[sly escarp]

That's a bomb.

Maybe don't.

[knotty moon]

During The Organ event if you are close to one the air strike will pick one up and explode it.
Used to be a one shot, now it just knocks you down (still instant kills Sinecure).

[unborn grail]

no wazard drop rate changes

[ruby girder]

Works great in my experience

[unborn grail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spiderman-tom-holland-i-dont-feel-so-good-XzkGfRsUweB9ouLEsE

[rugged plover]

that was such a pointless fight, tethren ended it in seconds and i keep getting helmets

[limber sundial]

I think it might be a while before I get the Seathorn so I might just roll with this new staff till then. Or potentially switch to the Vasp 4 or whatever it's called since I might get bored of staves lol.

[knotty moon]

You can get one by watching this with a linked account.
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1469343055785103402

[sly escarp]

Asing for codes is not allowed in the discord, if you need access #envoy-gathering message has a link of all the ways to get in

[ruby girder]

I swear I’ve been getting Seathorn frags from T2 votives as well but idk I haven’t been paying attention

[limber sundial]

I mostly want to avoid bounties because it feels like they send me off into one of the procedural dungeons and those take like 20 minutes to slowly work through as I explore lol. I imagine I'll speed up with time, but oh boy.

[kind roost]

do i need to buy this now 🙁

[sly escarp]

You could sell one of your weapons instead

[kind roost]

will it remain to be claimed if i click no

[sly escarp]

Yes, it just won't be added to inventory

[spare badge]

Yeah. It'll still be there waiting for you to get a slot so you can claim it.

[sly escarp]

It will remain at the blacksmith

[kind roost]

guess i can sell the thistle never gonna use that again

[finite stone]

Have you mastered it?

[kind roost]

rank 30 yeah

[finite stone]

awesome yeah that's a safe bet if you don't want to buy a slot 😄

[kind roost]

mastered all the bows i got only blitz and starling left

[novel moon]

Might want to note down what weapons you have maxed and sold though

[kind roost]

working on short blades now it

[kind roost]

i'll sell the starter ones for now like 1* attunement ones

[novel moon]

yeah, just so you remember what you actually maxed as afaik there is no easy way of finding the weapons you have maxed before

[kind roost]

how does dmg to smited enemies totem work your next atk after smite does more dmg or you do more dmg until enemy dies after smite ?

[woeful flume]

i dont understand the blessed joinry aspect changing. does it just add a 1 point for scaling a particular virtue or does it replace all the scalling virtues?

[halcyon thicket]

1 point

[woeful flume]

ah i see

[still violet]

I just realized that 3 of the 4 polearms are Courage/Spirit

Hopefully will see a Courage/Grace one eventually lol

[woeful flume]

i feel like Grace weapons are serioulsy lacking

like its only wands and

the side arm wand things

[still violet]

You're mixing Grace and Spirit

[woeful flume]

oh whoops

[still violet]

Grace has short blades and bows, Spirit has the staves and arm magic things

But I do agree, Spirit needs more weapon types lol

Oh yeah, Grace also has flyblades, I keep forgetting those things exist

[kind roost]

is it just me or are events even buggier

[idle otter]

so, how does scaling for abilities work.

are all grace abilities scaling with grace ?

[smoky crater]

courage abilities scale with courage, spirit abilities scale with spirit, grace abilities scale with grace

[kind roost]

like i haven't been getting the pop ups after completing organ or reward pop ups after killing bosses

[smoky crater]

but spirit in general iirc lowers ability cooldowns

[smoky crater]

from the Agari at the very least it was removed.

as for organs? not sure

[kind roost]

didn't get the pop up for weaver twice 3rd one had pop up

[knotty moon]

Seems so, still getting Erstroot though. 😛

[woeful flume]

are you talking about the scene when you have your hands on your hips and stare off in the distance while they tell you how much your pact and faction has leveled up?

[kind roost]

yes its a pop up like a mini cut scene

[woeful flume]

yea, i dont get it 2 out 3 times. same with the sparrow quests, i cant tell if im actually getting the rewards. not sure if intentional or a bug

[knotty moon]

My guess is that it was removed since it bugged out when getting on the rope.

[woeful flume]

ah

[kind roost]

i was worried that i wasn't getting the rewards

[frozen edge]

I know this will kill build freedom even more, but I kinda want to see them make pacts attunements more specialized.

[idle otter]

so beyond ability scaling
courage increases HP, Spirit reduces CD and grace does what ?

[kind roost]

ok looks like rivt-II is better dmg than royal thines with full grace build but rivt has worse smite chance ?

[smoky crater]

iirc sneak attack/finisher damage?

somethin like that

[kind roost]

wasn't grace the CD one or did they change it

[knotty moon]

Raises stealth damage and headshots.
Maybe riposte, specral strike and finishers, not sure about those.

[frozen edge]

like Moras Hand could have 3 courage scaling abilities instead of one of each, to make extreme prisms make more sense, Tethren 2 courage and 1 spirit, etc

[knotty moon]

Spirit.

[idle otter]

sooo going for spirit/grace split built for oscelda wouldnt be too bad ? since the birds build up stun quite fast and then you can strike em and then spirit abit for the cd ?

just an example

[knotty moon]

All in all there is nothing truly that difficult, so it is more what you like to do.
I'd say figure out how you like to play, then spec to boost those elements.

[long grove]

yes on finishers, no on others. so staggers/knockdowns

[long grove]

it might scale better initially, but since they have generally low damage it's easy to reach the damage cap on both. tines will lead with smite chance.

[woeful flume]

damage caps 🙃

[frozen edge]

They'll probably need to rework the attribute/attunement system again, I don't really see prisms making sense in the long run. If they actually make every ability worth scaling, the only ones worth using will be the balanced or hybrid ones

[long grove]

either that we walk around with a purity in each hand

[knotty moon]

Most likely, they have intentionally made hybrid builds more difficult to reach requirement (though they admitted to overtuning).

[subtle plinth]

I’d say this system has its advantages, since switching between loadouts is now easier and doesn’t require manual distribution. However, I’m sure it will be reworked and improved. Perhaps we’ll be able to modify and tune virtues ourselves

[frozen edge]

they could just specialize the pacts and weapons. 3 courage pacts, 2 grace and 1 spirit pacts, etc. You'd end up with BiS prisms and weapons/armor for some, but I dont necessarily see that as a bad thing for rpgs

[subtle plinth]

I have a feeling they might remove virtues eventually

They’ve mostly received negative feedback, but I personally think the idea was good

I'm not sure I can say the same about implementation, but we'll see what happens next

[long grove]

people not liking change is nothing new, but they won't remove virtues

[knotty moon]

They also probably monitor what people actually use and in what ratio, not just what a few vocal ones say.
While the reaction to it will most likely be taken into account, an outright removal would probably have to show a more fundamental problem.

[frozen edge]

I don't really feel strongly about it one way or another, I'm just hoping whatever system they end up with will make everything worth using, so we don't end up with another warframe situation with tons of usless mods and weapons.

[valid herald]

Some spanish prople?

[crude valve]

yo ya des Fr ?

[grim frigate]

where are the black dust people?

[spare badge]

I don't think they'll remove virtues. They might replace Prisms with a better system. But that's part of the whole pre-alpha thing. They're testing stuff and seeing what works. I think the virtues rework itself is ok, but that a lot of the attune requirements are too high. Knocking those down would allow more variation in builds and make hybrid builds actually viable. Instead of not having enough virtue for both weapons. It's the not having enough virtue on hybrid builds that's causing the "you need to use only the extreme prisms and only the weapons/armor attuned to those" meta. DE wantd to get rid of courage meta. They just ended up splitting it into 3 metas, one for each virtue.

[knotty moon]

Gone with the wind.

[spare badge]

The motes got removed when totems became a thing.

[grim frigate]

totems?

[spare badge]

Would be better if they added them back in. Maybe moved them over to Orlik.

[grim frigate]

i loved them :(

[spare badge]

Yeah. The removal makes the tent feel more lonely. We could handle losing Fenn. But the motes hurt.

[knotty moon]

Orlick is (presumed) scheduled in the updates this year, so maybe.

[fluid ravine]

My wevetseed count still sits at 0 even after getting a bunch of them

[spare badge]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1472680685730009139

[subtle plinth]

Exactly. I sincerely hope they won’t be removed. However, some mechanics/implementations (such as idols, motes) were removed from the game earlier, so that’s true — they’re testing things, and we can’t say anything for sure at this stage

[ionic rose]

Hi guys, i really like the game but ive had a bug since the beginning of my journey, i unlocked 3 pacts (i see them in my inventory, i even have the bear twice), but i cant switch them and use them (they dont appear as unlock in my character menu) ... anyone has any idea of to debug this ?

[knotty moon]

I'd say that Virtues in some form will still be present, it is a bit too fundamental.
On the other hand you are right.

[knotty moon]

Did you craft them?

[lament nacelle]

gotta craft them

[ionic rose]

i did

[knotty moon]

And when you go to the armory and click Swap what happens?

[ionic rose]

since prelude 11

[lament nacelle]

yeah you still have to craft them at the Steelsinger

[mighty crystal]

im getting so darn unlucky trying to get the Archstorm rune from the wraith

[knotty moon]

Those look like the crafted version, no fragment symbol.

[lament nacelle]

oh now i see that. thats odd

yeah try swapping to it

[knotty moon]

Try going to the cammel and see if you can sell them (don't actually do it though :P).

[ionic rose]

i was hoping for a fix but it seems im the only soul wit this bug

no i can't sell

[knotty moon]

As a matter of fact, check how many Pact slots you have.

[ionic rose]

where do you see that ?

[knotty moon]

Cammel, Slots tab, the number on the top right of the slot item. (this will be the number of slots you have free)

[ionic rose]

"2"

[knotty moon]

Ok, so somehow they didn't go into the right inventory.

As a long shot I would try to verify the game files, but I doubt it.
Failing that I would contact support about it.
https://support.soulframe.com/hc/en-us

[thorny glen]

you can't sell pact fragments sadly

[ionic rose]

Yeah thx for the help mate, appreciate

[thorny glen]

i don't think you can sell ANY fragments actually

only completed weapons and pacts

[ionic rose]

They aint fragments thats the thing ^^

[thorny glen]

and even then it's not worth it since you spent more time getting them

check the crafting menu, do any appear there?

[ionic rose]

yeah i even did it multiple times

[dawn arrow]

I swear i thought i was imagining but i am sure my weveseeds are being consumed faster than actual use

[gusty dagger]

New bow in game yet?

[knotty moon]

Not yet.

[dawn arrow]

I had 12, used 2, now I have 8 seeds

[spare badge]

Read #1439842825180155904

[frozen edge]

I had 35 seeds, used none, picked up a new seed and now it tells me I have 33. New bug probably.

Also, dogs are not dying again

[gusty dagger]

Its Skyrim now

Its a feature

[thorny glen]

no horse armor dlc

no horses

[knotty moon]

That's Oblivion.

[thorny glen]

skyrim also got horse armor

[gusty dagger]

We going to have floating bucket strat soon

[thorny glen]

i can't wait for 10 years when this game will get it's 1.0 launch

50 pacts, 240 weapons

[knotty moon]

I was perfectly happy not knowing that particular travesty was perpetuated.

[thorny glen]

oh the anticipation

[gusty dagger]

Soo warframe

[frozen edge]

they really should have left dogs killable, so these immortal, perma aggro dogs dont keep cropping up every now and then

[thorny glen]

[knotty moon]

Smite them.

[thorny glen]

no dog killings, warframe did too much

[frozen edge]

not the big ones, the regular small ones

[knotty moon]

That's what I meant too, bring out your inner Thanos.

[gusty dagger]

Where bow at ffs

[knotty moon]

Hotfix SOON™.

[thorny glen]

this just in?

[spare badge]

No. When the dogs were killable, we were getting mad at the devs. The immortal hostile dog bug is better than killable dogs.

[thorny glen]

never got a bow from the 15 organs i did

[gusty dagger]

Its not in game yet

[thorny glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717498714259980378/1294659812453519361/glorp-glorpnotl.gif

[sly escarp]

It's been 2 days since we even heard about the bow existing

[thorny glen]

reset in 9 minutes

[gusty dagger]

Trust me I would be farming hard

[sly escarp]

It will probably be a little bit before it gets in

[knotty moon]

Some were getting mad at the devs.
I'm of the opinion that if spiders deserve death, so do dogs.

[gusty dagger]

What can I say what cant I say

[spare badge]

Obviously, you didn't read the post correctly. #soulframe-news message

[gusty dagger]

I was going to make a joke

[thorny glen]

and I will CONTINUE being illiterate if it pleases me

[spare badge]

I'm of the opinion that people who say dogs deserve death deserve death.

[knotty moon]

Fair.

[thorny glen]

you can argue "those aren't real spiders, they are made of wood"

[gusty dagger]

I don't see anything about baby oil yet

[thorny glen]

but then again, one of them oneshot me so...

[gusty dagger]

[spare badge]

They're tektites, not actually spiders.

[thorny glen]

missing cyclopean eye

[gusty dagger]

Anyways I am waiting for new bow

[spare badge]

legally distinct tektites...

[gusty dagger]

[thorny glen]

pudate 14 maybe

still "droppable rep tokens

[gusty dagger]

They better put baby oil on it an slip it real quick

I want it

[thorny glen]

does that mean the rep number after quest will now be accurate?

[scenic solar]

Boo... I can't use the best armor set up (assuming I ever get the Wazzard set)

[thorny glen]

isn't the best armor per virtue the bear, wolf, and now organ set?

[frozen edge]

intel just fell through the ground...I know its probably just coincidence, but so far post patch is making me very sad

[scenic solar]

Currently the buddy app says Poppa Pepo Mask from last Halloween (I missed it), Mendicant King's Suit of Rancor, and Wazzard's Trunks

[thorny glen]

really?

they should start adding set bonuses...

[scenic solar]

2+6+3 Physical, 2+3+4 Magick, 6+4+4 Stability

[knotty moon]

👀
That... is all kinds of wrong.

[scenic solar]

So 11 Physical, 9 Magick, and 14 Stability

[thorny glen]

i'm fairly sure virtue scaling is worth more than base stats

[scenic solar]

I'm just going by what the buddy app is listing

[frozen edge]

app probably not updated to deal with armor attunement

[thorny glen]

i once got up to 40 courage and was almost unkillable

[knotty moon]

Different scaling setup, there might be a reason, but it is likely outdated.

[dawn arrow]

Ok i am picking up weveseeds but count is not updating, its all over the place 😭

[scenic solar]

Like I said, I wouldn't be able to use it as I missed last halloween and don't have the two new masks

[thorny glen]

it IS all over the place

[thorny glen]

you're not missing much (I also don't have them)

[thorny glen]

even the wiki is outdated in terms of material costs

daily cap has reset by now, right?

[long grove]

as of 4m ago ye

[knotty moon]

Can you point out where it is wrong?

[scenic solar]

Set to GMT+-0

[thorny glen]

https://tenor.com/view/catherine-project-moon-limbus-company-game-mini-cathy-gif-8666245101905664457

[frozen edge]

did they mess with auto targeting for p13? pull smite has been really annoying

[thorny glen]

time to grind

[quartz shuttle]

anyone know which glades are best for finding endless?

[long grove]

any glades, no best at it

[scenic solar]

Well got Clivers crafting, still need the rest of my Arbearer fragments and Marrow's Bane but I keep getting the stupid Thawtide Dagger...

[quartz shuttle]

does the level of the glades matter?

[frozen edge]

aiming at a floating ghost just behind another guy and all my envoy wants to do is pump their fist

[long grove]

nope

[gusty dagger]

Your envoy wants to party

[shut latch]

They still haven't fixed new players not being able to progress pact selection at start of game. This blows my mind. Nearly a week. I think that be a top critical fix.

[frozen edge]

man, Ive gone weeks without seeing a major bug and then it hits me with like 6 in a row in a 30 min session. like 4 needing relogs

[shut latch]

Yeah I used one of my friends key I had to play, but between the being shot in the air and not being able to progess on the other account is really loosing hopes for this game and DE.

[long grove]

it's not like it isn't. it's not just about priority, but also the difficulty in diagnosing and fixing. if they could've gotten it out yesterday, they would've

[frozen edge]

They'll fix it, I'm just annoyed at old bugs cropping up again

[shut latch]

What are point of the logs? I mean I am not a game dev, but I would think logs usually point to the issue or some sort of ballpark. Like I was able to point out there some mismatch in granting starting gear. The logs even point out so many missing assest, things from Warframe. Not trying to be critical but I have seen major things get hotfixed in other games in no time when things actually prevent players from playing all together. Bugs, I can deal with when you can still function in the game.

[prisma blaze]

So I’ve noticed on certain hits I get thrown extremely high in the air, come crashing down and even when swinging my weapon I still hit the ground and die instantly? Is this suppose to happen?

[blazing seal]

is the odiac considered throwing on the upgrades?

[prisma blaze]

Also sometimes it’s like I’m running in quicksand like I barely move forward at times then suddenly rush forward?

[shut latch]

I have noticed that when you jump and get hit that can trigger it.

[knotty moon]

Something might look simple, but sometimes it really isn't.
Also mind that Soulframe is under heavy development right now, so you shouldn't expect customer service as if it was live.
Yours is probably one of the worst cases I heard so far (in this game at least), but as we don't actually know what went wrong (logs only show you part of the problem), I can't really give you an estimate for when it will be fixed. But I hope it is soon.

[prisma blaze]

Mine happens when I’m standing there fighting like th spider thing web attack will half the time or most of the time launch me as well as a bannerette attack does it sometimes like throws me far as hell and usually into the water if it’s around

[modest pasture]

the bow runes only drop from rutho right?

[shut latch]

I jumped in one of the crypts and got thrown into cieling and died. Got ported back to starting area and had to walk 10 mins to get back to the crypt to finsih the tree quest. LOL.

[knotty moon]

Strange how often it happens to you.

[shut latch]

So far like once ever 2-3 hours.

[knotty moon]

Yeah, for something I never seen at all it does seems a bit too common to you.
Can't even begin to guess why that would be though.

[still violet]

Anyone else never have the mockeries drop weapon fragments?

[frozen edge]

Run sirin if you want mockery fragments, it will take forever otherwise

[final rock]

haven't gotten around to P13 yet, but the rates were real bad in P12

[still violet]

I do lol

I've managed to pickpocket them, but never actually had a blueprint fragment drop

[frozen edge]

Yeah its rare, Tessard was my white whale for ages. Easier to just let it be rng and give up active farming for my own sanity

[final rock]

I can't imagine the rates are higher than .1% (1/1000) for the Mockery weapons

[blazing seal]

im saying tho are the upgrades of odiac going to strong attk? as throw?

if that make sense

[final rock]

i think Tessard is the only mockery weapon I've got

[blazing seal]

cause if throw upgrades count for odiac then i should do alot of damage

[final rock]

Odiac likes consecutive dmg buffs

[blazing helm]

I am having the same exact problem with stultin. Dropped the others easily but stultin evades me for a month

[frozen edge]

I got multiple copies of nurash and stultin within a week, only hit 2nd copy of tessard this week after months of nothing

[long grove]

just rng sometimes

like i got gath really easy, stultin was harder than dew even

[final rock]

"sometimes" when its a common experience

[long grove]

i wouldn't misconstrue common with vocal

[still violet]

It's unfortunate because I did previously manage to get stultin, but now it's pure Courage

[dawn arrow]

Well I ranked kith enclave from 0 to rank 4 (50k xp), now doing rank 5 yet 0 Seathorn/0 Basket Wrest

[still violet]

Now I wanna get the other two for hybrid builds

[frozen edge]

basket will probably a rep purchase for me. ain't nobody got time for farming that

[long grove]

i mean either or it's a 1/10 chance to get those on kith t3s rn

seathorn was easier for me to get on alca/rose cuz it was 1/9

[knotty moon]

🤔
I never seen either of them when I was Kith too, got Seathron quite easily as Rose though.

[clear vessel]

Nope I got em, but also I regularly beat em up on my way to the crypt.

[clear vessel]

Sea thorn is just super rare

Did like ten or more t3 tales yesterday, hit the standing cap.

Only got 1 fragment.

[tepid nexus]

Spirit is cooked compared to grace and courage when it comes to dmg and also when it comes to survivability compared to courage

Doesnt help that most pacts "spirit" ability either doesnt scale at all or is just support ability

[long grove]

well depending on faction it's 1/10 or 1/9 so... tracks

[dusty hatch]

1/10 is superb. I'm at 1/50ish 🥹

[clear vessel]

Oh yeah cuz of the kith of kings weapon from t3?

[clear vessel]

Ow.

[long grove]

yeah

[vivid sparrow]

Seathorn drops in the organ, right?

[spare badge]

It shouldn't.

Should be T3 voltives.

[sly escarp]

No

[spare badge]

||https://wiki.avakot.org/Seathorn||

[digital swallow]

Do weapon affinities get stronger the more of it you have? Like if I have a weapon that has 2 Spirit and 2 Courage, does having a 3rd Spirit offer more scaling than adding 1 Grace?

[nimble thorn]

yes!

@digital swallow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQQ08-hrtqM

[digital swallow]

Hm. So, yes, at least at the character ranks we can hit right now

[spring saddle]

anyone know what this giant mushroom is

[gaunt void]

i'm so glad i started with grace and spirit builds

because playing courage i'm not sure how it's even possible to die

going the other way would be quite confusing

[dusty hare]

I like the constant hotfixes

Game feels alive

[spare badge]

#envoy-gathering message

#1440103546900185108 message

[dusty hare]

this game needs big shrooms

[lament nacelle]

that would be a fun biome. like a forest, but its all shrooms

maybe a swamp with massive shrooms

[modest pasture]

okay i have killed Ruthos at least 10 times today and still neither Rune have dropped lol. my rng curse has returned i see

[dusty hare]

a poison swamp

[lament nacelle]

i think maybe the Cogah talismans are far too common and will always take priority over the runes it seems

[modest pasture]

idk why but i havent gotten either for bow. i got the commons for shortblade, fly, longblade, greatsword, and shield almost all the first time or second time i killed a boss that had it. so this was has been annoying since i like bows and flyblades/short lol

[normal sail]

i yearn for the day DE adds a soft-knockout system to the drops

[lament nacelle]

yeah, i wanted to get Durglint for awhile cause of the damage, but then i find out i am having FAR more fun using Forburn and Shield Throw and basically tossing my shield like a grenade

[modest pasture]

i started sirin because most games i like doing perfect dodge/counter plays. but it seems specter strikes arent proccing more than half time. but i really do enjoy the scope/style of a spirit/grace build. however, am looking forward to when i get enough to swtch to a courage hybrid

[raven axle]

can you parry nimrod attack?

[lament nacelle]

even posted a build for it on the forums, but apparently its "Suboptimal" for not using Durglint and Flyblades

[modest pasture]

yeah games like these there are always people that will call things subopt because of clear speeds or whatnot. its the same with WF and games like BL and even Diablo-likes. But i say if you have fun and enjoy the vibe nowadays, oh well if it isnt "best"

[long grove]

they are separate drops

[lament nacelle]

huh... noted. then my name still fits then lmao

[formal wraith]

When I leveled up to rank 3 all my points in the upper right corner reset to 0. Is that supposed to happen? If I wanted to buy an item I no longer have points to purchase anything.

[gaunt void]

that's the intended behavior

you're "buying" your rank up with favor

[formal wraith]

Thank you for replying. Not the answer I wanted, but I understand.

[modest pasture]

Is this spinning wheel of chain swings supposed to be something? lol i cant decide if i am overthinking a cool set piece as a puzzle when its just to look cool and be there.

[fallen orchid]

Does anyone know which volume, in the sound mixer, is attached to the Wevetseed's ryme?

[velvet veldt]

I don't know why people hate that diddy so much lol

[languid rain]

So uh, just got back to soulframe for the new update and was wondering how the new virtue system works and why my armour class is down to 0

[vivid karma]

Any news on console release?

[hollow escarp]

anyone know where to find the stag ? havent found in night time corrupted areas

[spare badge]

Possible future puzzle piece? Currentl, it just looks cool.

[sand stump]

is gath still not dropping

[twin skiff]

Looks like something from Neath'uns spawned in the wrong spot.

[fallen orchid]

I LOVE THE DIDDY, it's just too loud

[modest pasture]

yeah think so too. super cool. like i have seen other water wheels you can interact with. or pull levers, but never found anything happening. seen some walls that seem like secret exit doors. so i am really excited for how these dungeons will get even more dynamic

[fallen orchid]

Once you have everything IT"S AWESOME!!!, untill then, kinda bs. It's a step in the right direction on balancing the core structure of the game though.

[languid rain]

Though, how do I up my armour class? Does it come with the virtue changes?

All I know of is that I need to up my stats with my alliance

[fallen orchid]

They have to have the game finalized before they can go to console, so... awhile. Optimistically, unless a miracle happens, we can hope to see them starting that venture by this time next year...

[modest pasture]

i am definitely feeling the need for that scrap brass now.

[spare badge]

Did you find the secret sub-room of the "endless room" in the uncercity?

[modest pasture]

ive found it a couple times when doing a tale. i havent seen it in the last few undercity runs i had though. does it only spawn going through certain entrances?

because it has like 6 or 10 spear racks right?

[spare badge]

It's part of the "endless room". Some undercity entrances seem to not spawn it, similary, they don't spawn the big "twist the middle around" room, or the big room with lots of bridges, or the big single bridge room, or the room with the rotating thingy in the picture.

[velvet veldt]

Scrap brass is easy. Just do but don't finish multiple red balloon castle runs

[modest pasture]

okay yeah, thats what i figured. i just havent had an endless tile spawn in like 3 or 4 days lol before i even had good levels/gear either

[modest pasture]

does not burning the ballon help somehow? like you can just return sooner to go inside for more racks?

[velvet veldt]

It keeps it live. Don't burn the balloon, do it over via return to title menu.

[modest pasture]

gotcha, see i had seen people say that about getting bear/stag to spawn in a spot in the same night cycle. and it has never once worked for me, so i didnt think to do it with a seige

[fallen orchid]

as long as you match with the virtues you have within your prism you should be fine. If you meet the virtue requirements, it'll show one of the three virtue symbols on the top corner of the Icon in your Armory.

[spare badge]

The dungeon entrance by the NE world tree has teh big single bridge and the enedless room as possibilities.

[modest pasture]

kk i have been up there a lot today cycling between ruthos/stag and t3 tales. havent even done an organ or collector today

[blazing seal]

good odiac build?

[spare badge]

Fell the Mighty ending with dermak has a 50/50 chance of bannerette being under the big bridge or in the endless room.

[modest pasture]

yupp lol sounds jut like my rng luck then i keep getting the other ones 🤣

[velvet veldt]

I would like the new scenario to be more entailed.

[half talon]

Which one? The organ? They do have Medis’ operation notes which is pretty cool to see.

[velvet veldt]

yes

[half talon]

You can always provide your thoughts in #1438224662344761345 on ways the team can improve it but it’s a pretty good addition imo. Coupled with the details from Medis Gyon’s operation notes, it’s probably one of the biggest lore drops we’ve had in a while too.

[modest pasture]

that reminds me. if i am missing note entries on "Witch" (third entry) and "Steelsinger" (third and fourth). Are those just a random page I missed somewhere? Or being worked on like the location entries

[half talon]

You can find them around the map. I forget but I believe one may be missing (I can check in about 20 minutes if you remind me…) but it’s equally possible I missed a note somewhere.

[dusty hare]

shield weapons are not quite there yet

[modest pasture]

Like its just ??? , kinda how even when I get all motes for a spot they remain ??? in the journal but some arent

[half talon]

Oh. ??? Is placeholder usually.

But gimme a few. Need to adult for a lil then I can check when I hop on for my last organ run of the night.

[modest pasture]

alright cool. I am normally a collectible sniffer when it comes to finding things lol and my completionist brain for gaming loves finding em all. Games like KCD2 were so bad for me lol just trying to find obscure lore notes

[dim wave]

I’m tryna make a Moras hand build work with the Paladine prism so I can use Baskers wrest to burn twice the Cassids. it worthwhile or am I just horribly nerfing myself?

To mention, I got bare minimum requirement for spirit attunement so it works and I plan on giving it a blessing of mora joinery soon but idk if the effort is worth the resources

[scenic solar]

Can you pickpocket world bosses?

[spare badge]

No.

[scenic solar]

damn... going to take forever to get these Marrow's Bane and Arbearer pant drops...

[gusty dagger]

I gotta ask but why

[scenic solar]

I keep getting Rostrum fragments from Kabocha...

[scenic solar]

To try and speed up trying to get these fragments when the pool seems to be massively leaning towards the Thawtide weapons and not the stuff they had before

[gusty dagger]

Its a grind?

[gusty dagger]

Buy it.......

[scenic solar]

No, it's screwing over people who got to it late

[fast marsh]

has anyone been able to get stag tales consistently from this tree? across 52 re-logs, i've gotten 30 bears, 3 stags, and 19 trees with neither

[half talon]

Logging in now. Should be able to tell you momentarily.

Okay for Verminia I have all 3 nodes. For tuvalkane, I am missing the last. So whether that’s just me not finding it (perfectly possible) or it just doesn’t exist yet, that’s all I’ve got for you regarding that at this time.

Also you said 4th entry on steelsinger? I only have 3

[modest pasture]

https://i.imgur.com/LnzQ1YH.jpeg
hmmm okay then. i will have to do some more digging

[half talon]

Ah okay it’s jut 3 for tuvalkane. Maybe you’ll find that third before I do… probably because as soon as I finish this run I’m crashing. Already super late haha

[modest pasture]

then why is four pips? ahhhh my ocd lol

[lament nacelle]

We can add Daggers to the list of weapons that can nugget people, but not Dual Blades

also i dont think this si right lmao

[modest pasture]

That vadagar bear jump attack is ruthless for Spirit/Grace build. Like its a one shot. And the AoE is so massive. I have tried running the opposite direction and dodging nonstop. Tried timing the jump and jumping, thinking it was a shocwave mechanic. I have never not been hit by it I dont think

[astral fiber]

I think I killed it with a bow

[modest pasture]

yeah i already did the waste bear. i just mean the open world vadagar one. it just spams the dive and jump a lot still it seems.

[jolly sedge]

[lament nacelle]

So i think i found out what is causing the nugget effect... It seems to only happen when i have the throw applies slow totems. When under the slow affect and dying to a headshot throw seems to be the key to making Nuggets

[bleak hawk]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P13 are locations from here correct? I've been looking for a damn stag for 30 mins

[ebon wraith]

he spawns randomly, not every location is guaranteed

[bleak hawk]

oooohhhhhhhhhhh

okay i see. thanks

[loud sinew]

what exactly is this bad boi?

[ebon wraith]

wood chipper

[loud sinew]

let me rephrase the question in DE Style

How can i whack it for some resources? is it destructible?

[ebon wraith]

its purely aestetic

[keen river]

not desctructible, you can't do anything with it at the moment except die by walking into it

[astral fiber]

if you jump it it gives you a secret bonus!

[loud sinew]

hm, i just kicked some corrupted knights into it, worked very well

[loud sinew]

[keen river]

oh my god i never considered killing enemies with it. just myself.....

[bleak hawk]

it also wokrs very well for your envoy

[ebon wraith]

sad it dosent spit Ode burgers

[loud sinew]

Well, havent played in a while and since we got our beloved kick back

[bleak hawk]

damn those Ode enemies can turn into spceships now

bro is slowly flooating upwards

[frozen edge]

A light beam puzzle can spawn a mirror piece dangling off that, but it seems kinda uncommon. That's just a cool deco most times.

[loud sinew]

i remember there was this thing when i succed a soul, my sword would get ignited and it was hella strong. is that not a thing anymore? i remember i farmed it with nimrod

[idle viper]

That sounds like a rune. You need to put that rune to every new sword you use to activate every time you smite.

[ebon wraith]

its called weapon Rune

for example

[loud sinew]

ah yes, for some reason it unequipped itself and i didnt remember how i put it on, thanks a lot :)

[loud sinew]

how is yours twice leveled, same as mine but i get 80%? :D

[vagrant kayak]

You've only levelled yours once

See the notches on the left?

[ebon wraith]

runes have 3 levels same as totems

[loud sinew]

oh, i see, i might be blind

[loud sinew]

that checks out, i thought the number on the top right meant the level :'D sorry

[idle viper]

that is the number of the same rune you have. You can use the exact same rune for all the weapons it allows to use it. So, my suggestion is to transform the rest for the sweet sweet dust 😄

[loud sinew]

you just unlocked a very irritating memory i had

i grinded lots of bosses for the other runes and got the same one twice :D

is precklies not courage anymore? :o

it used to be the only courage attuned flyblade by default

[scenic solar]

Got a feeling I won't be doing anything but killing Kabocha and Gourdo for the next few weeks trying to get these Marrow's Bane fragments..

[ebon wraith]

the only weapons i had issues farming were Stultin&Nurash aka mockery drop and cursed Gathannan lol

[loud sinew]

also, is there anything in the castle in the south yet?

(except the character creation room)

[ebon wraith]

not yet

Soon™

[dapper rain]

abandon it as a puzzlke. settled on 'its an old school combat training machine'

[loud sinew]

lowkey, they could've left the bug unfixed where you can run through the wall, didnt hurt anybody :'D

[modest pasture]

lol just like those ones in half-sword or those other physcis based games that just send you flopping lol

[languid kiln]

What's the max Bond-Level for pacts? 30 like in Warframe?

[ebon wraith]

yes

same goes for weapons

[dusty hatch]

Still farming Seathorn, but Estroot feels like a wet noodle after the patch. The magical sidearms outperform them by a wide margin. Am I missing something or is that just the way it currently is with magic?

[dapper rain]

what about the person who didnt kno they installed wall

[ebon wraith]

seems like magic is in not so good spot at the moment

[raven axle]

if you have for example oscelda and wyld oscelda maxxed, it can go up to 60. maybe in the future we have wyld version of current pacts. But yeah for now only founders can have 60 points on tethren, oscelda, and sirin.

[dusty hatch]

sidearms are still fine. the explody rune clears rooms, the attack speed is so fast that you still deal tons of damage with the armor strip rune...its braindead easy. its just that the staffs feel like they do the same as an odiac for example, just with half the attack speed and 1/5th of the damge

[prisma blaze]

Just had the game freeze in the please wait after trying to sell a bow to the camel

[dapper rain]

had that happen couple times

[lofty stream]

Question. Do I get more enemies and XP in Multiplayer? I know in WF theres more spawn on anamies, so in turn I get more XP

[dusty hatch]

Chestception

[raven axle]

Example: Oscelda with 60 points. Because I already maxxed Wyld Oscelda too.

[dapper rain]

XP distribution upon defeating an enemy has been reworked./XP is now evenly split between Pacts and the drawn weapon (or last equipped if unarmed)./ Smite kills now grant the last-hitting weapon XP/ Self-exploding Sinecure kills now grant the last-hitting weapon XP

afaik group ignores alot of that and gives xp like i assume faction tales give xp. not more but better distributed ?

[lofty stream]

Thank you! 🙂

[prisma blaze]

How do you get more runes

[dapper rain]

hunt the Agarti...which weapons u usinmg

[languid kiln]

Oh, sick

[prisma blaze]

Starling and cobladh

Anyone wanna farm the agarti? I have no idea where it is btw

[dapper rain]

ill login

the gruul seeker is the NE most world tree he drops both the bow runes ( regular and cogah version )

[prisma blaze]

Oh I don’t even have that tree found yet

[bleak hawk]

when does the map "reset"?
Like, when do location get new motes and stuff like that?

[dapper rain]

relog

[bleak hawk]

oh lmao

alrighty~

[dapper rain]

u know how to tell how many are at location ?

[bleak hawk]

yeah

[dapper rain]

/inv 0uroBorosGhost

[prisma blaze]

Sent

[astral fiber]

looking for the dead trees with the fog and everything is brutal

[prisma blaze]

Screen is black might need to relight

[half swift]

god the 3 worlds trees south of the om low level region, really seem to try to push you back north into the low level area esepcially if your doing 3 star quests.

[valid herald]

Anyone from spain?

Or latino?

[twilit silo]

You do in multiplayer XP appears to operate differently. There were a lot of hijinks with it when they did this patch change. Not sure exactly how it works but it’s very noticeable for almost everyone.

[finite stone]

Yep, all the info you need is on https://wiki.avakot.org/Locations:

[stiff arrow]

anyone know what "grows more powerful" means

I never seen this before and wiki say nothing about this, new function in a patch?

[finite stone]

Yeah it's because nothing's really known about them, it seems to maybe be bugged or not implemented right now #spoiler-chat message

[stiff arrow]

Thanks for answering

[dapper rain]

arond 40 agarti didnt knotice anyhitng lol

[valid herald]

Spanish people here?

[primal verge]

I'm at mid western midrath, in a "cave" (open roof with tunnels) filled with spiders next to the sea. My compass is blinking, is there something supposed to be here?

[dapper rain]

hgave u explored that vil;lage?

if your where i think u are...

[scenic solar]

Since apparently ALL of Arbearer's stuff got taken off Kabocha and Gourdo.... does anyone know of any places that are guaranteed Bear spawns?

[tepid nexus]

There are none. Bear shares spawn with stag and only at night.

[scenic solar]

I just remember people saying there was "guaranteed stag spawns" so i figured there might be one for bear

[tepid nexus]

There used to be before bear got added afaik, now they are all shared

[slim plume]

is there a bow thats clearly the best to use? Curious if I should be using one over the other or if they are all relatively the same

[tepid nexus]

For pure grace bow with highest grace req. cause it scales the highest with grace

[scenic solar]

yet to see Bear.. still need 3 pants fragments and 1 marrow's bane fragment...

(also still need 1 stag spear fragment...)

[tepid nexus]

Marrow is from Kabocha no?

[scenic solar]

Wouldn't know

I've literally gotten ONLY Rostrum and Maestro from Kabocha and Gourdo

[tepid nexus]

Its from Gourdo and Kabocha y

Ofc, marrow is strongest courage weapon atm its rare

[scenic solar]

Do we have proof, beacause again, I've gotten fragments only for the thawtide weapons since the patch

[tepid nexus]

Wiki says so, dont think they would lie

[knotty imp]

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

[tepid nexus]

[scenic solar]

The wiki is going off of community gathered information, and isn't official, also they we don't have official drop tables

(which would be nice so we can test to see if they're accurate and can report what needs to be changed)

[tepid nexus]

Yes i know what Wiki is. If you think it drops from bear you are free to try

[scenic solar]

if this is an alpha, or pre-alpha, they need to be supplying a lot more information so we can see if stuff is working as it's supposed to

[tepid nexus]

They already announced they are working on it

[knotty imp]

speaking of vadagar bear, he at the very least drops the armor set iirc

[primal verge]

hm, didn't see a village nearby. I'll check it out

[vital sable]

Its only the Bear and Wolf fables that give permanent virtues right ?

[vagrant kayak]

Yep

[vital sable]

guess i did rood one for nothing then xD

gotta change both to spirit

[dapper rain]

village.

[jagged pilot]

where can i get the 3 bladed fly blade i am only missing one piece of it

[dapper rain]

skilterr? gruul seeker has drop the most for me..

[jagged pilot]

is that a boss?

[sturdy nova]

Skilter:

[sturdy nova]

yes

[hollow pike]

been i long time isnce i played, im a siren now, where do i go to get missions?

[jagged pilot]

how does alca's breath function just got that rune the text is confusing for me

[jagged pilot]

yeah that is the text i am talking about

[sturdy nova]

what is confusing you exactly?

[jagged pilot]

how often is that effect being triggered because of occasionally could mean once every 50 hits

[sturdy nova]

smite-chance, depending on the totem in use. When you smite, Alca's Breath activates dealing up to 175% damage bonus (leveled to 3). so the higher your smite-chance, to more often it'll activate

I personally use flyblades with smite-chance I activate first, then switch to my main weapon, which also have smite-chance. When flyblades hit while I'm fighting with my main weapon, I almost constantly smite and can use the power of my rune

[primal verge]

hmm I don't think that's where I was, that's northern I was mid west. unless we can rotate the map?

[scenic cargo]

Quick question regarding the bear boss, how can we dodge the damage of the jump attack after he goes into the ground ? tried to time dodge, jump, go far away and i always take the big chunk of damage

[jagged pilot]

i phrased it bad i realized i meant the bullet attraction field is that the moment the smite is being pulled?

[velvet veldt]

What? The smite is pulled when you pull the smite. When you see the color of their soul and destroy it and they become part of the mist.

[celest glacier]

hey, does anyone knows about how play soulframe? i dont have friends with code..

[sturdy nova]

Watch the event this Tuesday for 30 min and you're guaranteed a code!
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1469343055785103402

[celest glacier]

thanks

[sturdy nova]

or this;
#envoy-gathering message

[worn crescent]

@celest glacier dm me ill give you a code

[amber bolt]

wha

[smoky crater]

[winged maple]

Where can I get a game key? I really want to play.

[ebon wraith]

Sunday prayer might help and if not then watch a Devstream/Envoy hour to get one

[winged maple]

If I watch a previous broadcast, does that count too?

[ebon wraith]

no

must be live

[sturdy nova]

#envoy-gathering message

also Envoy hour this Tuesday, watch 30 min for a guaranteed key

[hasty lotus]

can someone help with game not updating

[smoky crater]

what does it say?

[hasty lotus]

it stuck at 184mb

i try verify and optimise

[smoky crater]

is it the verifying or optimizing process that's stuck or just actually updating?

[hasty lotus]

updating

[smoky crater]

try restarting the launcher?

[hasty lotus]

i did

and restarted my pc

[smoky crater]

try turning off Bulk Download and/or Aggressive Download from the launcher settings?

[hasty lotus]

k

do i restart the launcher after turning it off

[slender saddle]

Is it a glitch? I can't set it on my bow, but other joineries I can

[smoky crater]

can try

[finite stone]

It used to, now the community's in the middle of testing to try and find out where stuff doesn't drop. This is a lot harder than testing where stuff does drop, because you cannot technically prove the non-existence of something beyond all doubt - it's why it's so important that DE releases a Public Export like the Warframe one, because til then the playerbase just doesn't have this info

[finite stone]

Wiki has Marrow on Kabocha because he dropped it in P12 yes, but right now we're just trying to gather enough certainty to remove it from his droptable if it does indeed drop only from Bear

[hasty lotus]

it did not work

[smoky crater]

hmm

[worn crescent]

I think it drops from bear now that he is in the game as an open world boss

[hasty lotus]

i try leaving it for hour and see if it works

[vestal crystal]

What does Kabocha now drop?

Don’t say erstroot…

[worn crescent]

Lol i think kabo just drops bear armor still

[knotty moon]

🤔
Would it be possible putting a tooltip with "Info last confirmed in Prelude X" on the drops?

[vestal crystal]

Drops in this game man…. Don’t make sense.

Their problem is that they have too much systems and too less items for them so what happens is that unlogical drops are added somewhere else

Like clivers should drop as a reward from sieges since it is part of the knightmaidens, erstroot and wazzard set should drop from Wrath of wastes, arbearers set should drop form bear since well it’s literally his armor. I suggest them adding a sproutfolk type weapon and armor for Kabocha, spider themed weapon and armor for Th weaver etc, the future ode’n bow with the organ is good but maybe ode’n themed armor also?? This would add so much immersion

[knotty moon]

Neath'uns also have no drops whatsoever.

[vestal crystal]

Does it even get selected as a tale??

[knotty moon]

Never saw it.
But I didn't do many.

[vestal crystal]

Bruh so the “event” dungeon tile of the Circade does get a tale but not the “permanent” Neath’uns dungeon 💀

Well tbh there isn’t really anything to do there

[knotty moon]

The best you can get is a couple of copy Agari.

[sly escarp]

Circade isn't getting removed

It's also permanent

[vestal crystal]

Yeah I was just joking cause at the beginning they said it was their first “Event” thing

But yeah it’s now permanent

[knotty moon]

Second iirc.

[vestal crystal]

Oh wait yeah the Halloween 😂

[knotty moon]

Uh, that "Set Waypoint" wasn't there before was it?

[smoky crater]

it sometimes is, sometimes isn't

think atleast

[knotty moon]

Despite what I said yesterday, turns out those are fragments (the numbers in the lower right).
Just to make sure, after crafting them, did you claim them from the Assembled tab of Tuvalkane?

[hasty lotus]

how to sign up for soulframe prelude

[knotty moon]

#envoy-gathering message

Also, the next stream:
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1469343055785103402

[junior cipher]

i’m gonna be honest this game confuses me it’s not a story game i want more quests which advance the game

and a pet dog

[smoky crater]

that will happen

pet dog? already exists

[junior cipher]

oh littt

i mean i want him to follow me

[smoky crater]

might happen in some way eventually

[ebon wraith]

this game is PRE-alpha testing stage cant have everything 🙂 altho i know the feeling since this plays better then modern AAA releases

[junior cipher]

ahhhhh i didn’t do enough research it is very fun just confusing at times for me

[ebon wraith]

it will make more sence once DE polishes it and adds proper content,quests etc

[drowsy elbow]

This is normal dmg yeah?

[sly escarp]

What did you do...

[drowsy elbow]

Alot of Pushups

[tight sequoia]

Hey guys i made some research about the faction missions and i found out that there is suppose to be lvl 40 missions that give 1700 exp, is that correct? and if it is, which tree?

[sly escarp]

That's only known due to a patch note iirc

Hence why the tier 1 and tier 2 tale numbers on avakot wiki are ???

[tight sequoia]

oh so it is something around 1400 exp the higher mission right?

[median willow]

Again update?

[safe yarrow]

What do the numbers and symbols mean here?

[long grove]

physical defense, magical defense, stability

[safe yarrow]

and the bigger number is just the sum i guess?

[long grove]

yep

[safe yarrow]

2nd question, on the votives list talking to the tree, are the numbers the advised level range?

[vague sorrel]

Yes, mobs lvl

[safe yarrow]

amazing, thanks!

does the mob level affect exp earned i guess?

[placid condor]

I believe so, I was doing the level 3 versions in some higher leveled areas. Only thing I had trouble with was the "mini-boss" if you wanna call it that at the end, but I was right next to a respawn point lol

I think I was level 15 or so doing a level 21-28?

[smoky crater]

Yep

[karmic cargo]

What is this

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/колокольчик-звон-bell-gif-3579075936127856978

[karmic cargo]

I can see it's a bell, but what is it used for

[smoky crater]

If you're at New Viscii it does nothing

[karmic cargo]

Viscii?

[ebon wraith]

its a location name

[karmic cargo]

Ahh, i see, then does it do something anywhere else(if there are others)?

[ebon wraith]

there is one with a boss sitting under it and when you ring the bell boss gets angry

[karmic cargo]

The wizard guy?

[ebon wraith]

The Mendicant King

https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Mendicant_King

[karmic cargo]

Thanks 👍🏼

[ebon wraith]

[full hearth]

[limber sundial]

Two Mendicant King kills, two runes, meanwhile five Wazzard kills and not a single rune. Bit of a shame lol.

[civic arrow]

when will we get the Cursed Marifold to plant it?

[brittle nacelle]

I'm p sure all cursed founders got theirs already

it was only for founders whose transaction got blocked by the payment processor and didn't get their stuff for a few hours

[civic arrow]

oh..

sad but ok ty for the info :)

[placid condor]

Can someone explain the virtues symbols on weapons with the new system?
Specifically if I look at a weapon and it has 1x Courage and 2x Grace symbols, does that mean its buffed/scales better with Grace but still buffed/scales with Courage and no benefit from Spirit?

[smoky crater]

correct

[lean prawn]

Grace scales slightly more per * though, so a 2/1 grace/courage weapon will actually do more damage with all grace than with a split...but courage still gives other benefits like HP etc.

[winged maple]

Someone please get me a key, for the love of God, I really want to play.

[smoky crater]

you can get one from the stream on the 24th.
been told to not ask for keys here.

[patent solstice]

Just watch Streamers

or tune into a Soulframe dev stream

[winged maple]

Ah, okay, I'll watch it then, thank you very much and sorry for asking for keys here, I didn't know.

🙂

[regal shadow]

there is an official stream on twitch on 24th, it'll have a key as a drop, just make sure to link your accounts

[iron nimbus]

Uh, I just noticed I lost all my Scrap Brass with the update. What happened? O_o

[placid condor]

That is good to know, thank you!

[broken hamlet]

@winged maple yo

[lean prawn]

This video dives deeper into the damage and scaling mechanics and helped me understand a lot of what's going on under the hood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQQ08-hrtqM

[fallow arch]

dunno if I had a bug but cobladh kick was meleeing for me

no I was not using a pact that replaces the kick

[placid condor]

I legit JUST added this to watch later so I can watch it on lunch 😅

[placid condor]

I realize I’m a pot stirrer at times… but I like to hear other sides that I may not have thought of.
I mentioned yesterday I think pacts should be earnable (immediate unlock and able to equip) rather than crafting.

Another question for everyone: would you be opposed to gear like weapons still being craftable but also having a 1-5% drop chance (already crafted and ready to equip) from specific sources?

Example: the Undercity’s gold chest having a 3% chance to reward an already crafted Dwelion (all lore aside just an example).

The crafting system is growing on me, but I do miss the dopamine rush of typical Fantasy RPGs and feel like that chance of an actual “equip now” drop would be a cool addition to the game and unless you look up a guide, the first time it happens you’d be like “WTF?!”

I would think this would have a clear center screen “TADA!!” pop-up so it doesn’t get missed or ignored like you can with other items currently.

[gloomy timber]

can anyone explain why blueprint rewards sometimes display button prompts?

i mean, a fragment of some sword drops and there's [X] or [RB] in the title when it displays on top-mid screen

especially when i get a fat loot drop with multiple blueprints in the row

[languid escarp]

it's RT for me and pressing it does nothing...no idea

[kind roost]

how should i allocate points in sirin pure grace is pickpocket or shrouded worth maxing or should i dump into spirit for more scaling ?

[dawn arrow]

Seathorn from first tale of the day, beautiful feeling

[long grove]

with any pact first get the stats you need for your weapons, then get the passives that support how you'll use it. if you're not gonna do a lot of pick pocketing for example you could instead get the stagger resists, smite perks

[fringe tendon]

quick question, is the wraith of waste pretty greedy with the magic rune drop, because I've killed him 3 times and still no rune?

[placid condor]

Added this to the feedback channel as I am learning how to better navigate and direct my various asks, recommendations, and general discussions/replies!

[gilded rock]

Congrats. It's a very nice Staff

[lean prawn]

I found pickpocket quite awesome for getting my first few weapon fragments faster. Generally I just spec in and out of it when I needed to farm something (like thawtide items).

[dawn arrow]

It will take sometime before I return to magick, leveling melee weapons

[gilded rock]

i've cleared that one a lot and still dont have it.

[random tangle]

Hello. Anybody know how to farm the regent set?

[fringe tendon]

ok thanks so it's Mr RNG we have to contend with

[gilded rock]

I think its a silent rose~~ only~~ t3 now?

[random tangle]

oof

[gilded rock]

yeah me too lol

[broken hamlet]

@random tangle you purchase it from the enclave vendor

[random tangle]

Ah...

can you swap back and forth between factions once you make the talismans?

[broken hamlet]

If it's farmabe idk

[random tangle]

it must have used to be farmable at some point. i have the veil and almost all pieces of the rest of the set

[broken hamlet]

Probably the t3 missions then

[lean prawn]

I don't think the pact stat increases are worth it right now. Maybe if you're 1 or 2 shy of a specific weapon attunment level but otherwise its a lot of pact upgrade points for very little return. Sympathy is always my first unlock with any pact.

[halcyon thicket]

Regent set is just from Rose factions now

Used to drop from Vadagar Stag

Double check on avakot wiki

[random tangle]

the soulframe wiki has very little info.... but there is another source called avagot wiki?

[dawn arrow]

Holy smaholy, 2nd take of the day Basker's Wrest. Whats happening today, after 1 week of 0 drops

Might as well go to the Organ

[broken hamlet]

I haven't seen that wiki

[halcyon thicket]

Avakot wiki is very extensive

[hollow wyvern]

Anyone know of some good resources to learn more in-depth about how the build mechanics work? (for buildcrafting purposes)
Like how the damage is calculated, what each stat affects and how, what breakpoints or diminishing returns to be aware of, that kinda stuff?

[halcyon thicket]

Rest are practically empty

Wiki.avakot.org

[halcyon thicket]

Saralovesarchery on YouTube

She just made a video on damage calc

[gilded rock]

I like their stuff!

[hollow wyvern]

Ok cool thanks! I've looked through the wiki but admittedly it doesn't go as in-depth as I was hoping

[random tangle]

its not warframe wiki thats for sure

[hollow wyvern]

I understand a lot of this is subject to change in future updates but I more just want to baseline my own knowledge so I can keep up with changes as they come

[random tangle]

when is the devshort mentioned future update that fixes organ drops?

it's practically useless to do it atm

[smoky crater]

whenever it is.

we don't get dates

[random tangle]

🙁

[broken hamlet]

There u go

[lean prawn]

Two videos that have helped me a lot in the past few days:
How does scaling work now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQQ08-hrtqM
Some good builds (and how systems interact to make them work) - https://youtu.be/zEYgmOXJ6fY?si=SFLOFYtC-8_cf4_b

[unkempt rover]

Sara is actually why I decided to give soulframe a try and has been such a blessing in my time so far :>

[placid condor]

Just finshed both and can confirm as a new player these helped a lot, but were also a LOT of info if you aren't familiar with some of the game terms.

If you play for like 2 hours and then watch I feel like all the game specific terms make a lot more sense.

[unkempt rover]

I do think the "Grip type" thing is kind of silly when people end up saying "Weapon" anyway

[knotty moon]

Grip Type is a term used by the devs, so it kinda sticks even if it is not in the game.

[unkempt rover]

Oh I see, interesting

I wonder if this has to do with the reworked combat systems I keep being told are happening

[knotty moon]

Most likely it is something from Warframe, I kinda remember the modular weapons having the term.

[kind roost]

killed cogah weaver bellow mushroom spawned up here wth

[lean prawn]

Sara definitely makes quality content and I watched it all between the time I first became aware of Soulframe and getting access to Founders.

[modest pasture]

well shoot. I was able to get the Witch note #3 to finally show done. but now I see I dont have not #2 for Steelsinger and it isnt even in the location for me. so thats a bummer

[dawn arrow]

Is there any scenario in which you use a magick weapon and use a blessed joinrey of anything other than Idris?

[finite stone]

Especially when they changed it from its original meaning!

Originally, DE referred to the weapon types as 'Combat Arts' - the same as the skill trees - which made sense.

'Grip Type' was first used when they revealed Marrow's Bane, and meant the different movesets within a Combat Art. Marrow's Bane was the first Cleaver, for example, so this introduced the cleaver grip type

However, they then started using 'Grip Type' to mean 'Combat Art' when they revealed Runes, saying they'd be for 'specific Grip Types', and that's how the terms ended up meaning the same thing, and why we as a community no longer have an official word for the sub-griptypes, like longsword vs cleaver, or dual blades vs dagger, etc. I think the closest we have though would be 'Moveset'

[finite stone]

I guess if it's split scaling and you'd rather use a blessed by <YourOtherVirtue> in order to save one of your iridises (or if you're out of iridises)

[dawn arrow]

Yeah it feels for something like this than for optimizing. With current weapon requirements, even if you go split you are going to invest mainly in the virtue that the weapon needs as a requirement. Consequently, it feels all blessed joinries are attracting for 1 type (Idris for Feybalt, Saphene for Grace, and so on)

[finite stone]

yeah the high single virtue requirements on split-scaling weapons are the weirdest design decision out of the whole rework for me. It actively fights against itself

[broken hamlet]

So adding a blessed joinery for the same class does boost the attunement by 1 tier which boosts damage, the only con is re leveling

[unkempt rover]

I do thin kthere's something to be said for curated equipment systems they just need to fiddle with the numbers a lot I think

[dawn arrow]

Everytime I try a new a weapon, I try different Prisms and see which one gives me highest damage. Up to this point it is always the 1 virtue bump route even in split (And i understand the math behind it)

[dawn arrow]

I just wished that somehow that the design allowed that a certain weapon would do its best when going for split prism. Yes i can sacrifice a little damage in order to get the split for pact abilities ... but I dont know they dont show us how much abilities are improving, I just go to single bump prisms

[broken hamlet]

I use more the weapons than abilities so I just focus on boosting the weapon damage

[unkempt rover]

I'm just giving it time :> It's an incomplete system and, to be blunt, they've been making like 1 vide ogame of a very specific type for nearly 15 years, I'm jus texcited to see how excited they are t obe making something new, and I hope they continue to be as receptive as they have been in the past to feedback. I have complaints about the prism and virtue systems, but I have complete faith they will handle it. I will always hate the slot system but that will never change xD

Also hhh speaking of Grip Types as they once were properly called, I got Marrow's Bane today, and I am so excited to try the cleaver moveset. The weapons i nthis game all look so good

[knotty moon]

There is also the primary benefits of Virtues that have to be considered, going with Hybrid builds can make you more versatile, even if doing less damage than a specialist.

[dawn arrow]

How about this, attunements basically work this way (cap numbers is just an example:
Each pip = cap 5 damage

So each pip requires 5 points in that virtue

[thin saffron]

Def not a fan of these prisms

I liked allocating my virtue points myself

[dawn arrow]

So if you have a split, you actually want 10 in both virtues atleast

[lean prawn]

I really agree. They have a different goal for Soulframe but the whole team have been working on Warframe for like 10+ years. Its DNA is in a lot of their decision making and it will take time to unwind it and build things that feel different.

[knotty moon]

Someday the logs will stop complaining about not having the Railjack. 🤣

[lean prawn]

Never played WF so only barely know what a Railjack is 😛 Maybe that's how we'll get ships though?

[unkempt rover]

GIVE US SAILJACK RN

(Railjack is my favorite game mode)

[prisma thicket]

please do not sailjack in public, thank you

[unkempt rover]

(I know me and the voices in my head excclusively)

[thin saffron]

I can't even use all my weapons now

[unkempt rover]

The Virtue reqs do seem to limit hybrid builds as lot ,and more importantly to me, they make wearing armor because you like the aesthetic and don't want to spend money t ofasshion it just not feasible

[dawn arrow]

In other happy news, Today seems like a special day. I did 4 tales only, got 2x Seathorn, 2x Basker's Wrest.
Do tales guys!@

[unkempt rover]

NICE!

Yeah Tales have been better loot than Organ and Wazzqard for me so I've been doing those. Enjoying Mockery and the beeg waste animals too!

[dusty hatch]

I got 2 Seathorn fragments too. In 80ish 3star tales. Don't do tales guys!@

[dawn arrow]

I ranked Kith Enclave from 0 to Rank 4 with 0 fragments. I am just saying, today was different haha

[pulsar jasper]

This as probably been discussed, but lately I've been having a issue where when my character gets hit while mid-air or starting to jump it gets thrown into the air and dies.

[astral fiber]

known issue. has something to do with getting staggered while jumping I've heard. happened to me a few times

[wary laurel]

are arrows for my blue envoy bow, ENDLESS ?

[astral fiber]

yes

[pulsar jasper]

that story line where you fight the bear was quite hard because of that , but nice to know it's already known issue

[gilded rock]

Best joinery for Staff when using Orengall is a Feybalt right?

[wet tulip]

rn feybalt is very bad. if you can wait a bit before using magick blessed joineries you should

because the 75% dps nerf on feybalt might get changed

waiting a bit could save you the hassle on releveling a weapon again

if you dont mind though use gildaur

[wary laurel]

my wallpaper

[slim portal]

What about Seathorne, still 0 fragments on my side lol

im very close to give up and just buy it with arcs

[long grove]

that's prolly more cuz it has a split drop rate with 9 or 10 other items in the t3 pool

[slim portal]

i simply dont understand why they havent included the weapon as a standing reward like the other one in Kith of kings

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️

[slim portal]

make it rank 5 reward 30k cost

i'm okay with that

it's a fair trade

[modest pasture]

lol crazy i have seathorn. didnt even realize

[knotty moon]

RNG is going to RNG, I didn't have much trouble getting it myself.

[dusty hatch]

Idk why so many people seem to assume that in a drop table of 10 weapons, each has the same drop chance. thats obviously not the case.

[finite stone]

they simply need a t4 pool with the dungeon missions, and a t3 one with the non-dungeon. split loot between those

[modest pasture]

trying to get this last mote to spawn in the castle up north outside the walls has been a pain. last locale lore left

[knotty moon]

You can't get multiple, as far as I know.

[dusty hatch]

Not sure what that's supposed to mean. In any case, if my drop table has 2 different weapons, one can have a 20% drop chance and the other 80%. if a 3rd weapon enters that pool, it could be that now two weapons have 10% and the last one still has 80% drop chance. depending on how it's implemented, there is no dillution of drop tables

[long grove]

i don't understand why you think it wouldn't be, nothing from a t3 seems to drop heavily more than the other. drop chance doesn't go up just cuz you didn't get it a previous time

[slim portal]

which one?

northmost?

[alpine wedge]

Hey can anoyone help me with an issue? I downloaded the game and exited the game and now when i open Soulframe it does not show anything anymore but the program appears in task manager.

[dusty hatch]

Idk how many hours you have in the game, but there is obviously stuff with MASSIVELY different drop chances. it's insane to me that anyone with hands and eyes would assume all tale drops are weighted the same

[modest pasture]

yeah the one we cant get inside. the first time i ever went there was on a tale and two motes were on the hillside. never again though lol.

[knotty moon]

And that means the former 20% chance weapon now has half the former chance.

[white igloo]

Question: Does the Wizard boss also drop armor fragments, or is it just from the Organ towers?

[slim portal]

there used to be a bug where the mote spawn in the air

[dusty hatch]

yeah, but the point is, it could have any num,ber of odds. could as well be coded for 33%

[long grove]

i'm well aware of this, however many missions even in warframe have things that are equal chance too. there's no need to have a uncommon/common/rare on these.

[dusty hatch]

but there are. i have 2 seathorns in 80 missions.

[modest pasture]

yeah, i am assuming it is happening in a rock or wall i cant see. and they dont glow much with spirit vision so i cant see if it is inside something anyways either

[finite stone]

Just organs - wazzard doesn't drop his clothes

[gilded rock]

Like two fragment?

[dusty hatch]

yes

[long grove]

yeah, probability isn't a guarantee

[knotty moon]

Except they most likely don't hardcode the chance, it most likely have a weight.
If done correctly it means that you can easily edit the table, if done incorrectly you get The Organ.
(If that is how they are handling the drops, which is what we are assuming)

[long grove]

i finished it in 16 t3s for example, should've been at least twice that if following averages

[modest pasture]

just trying to get the lore notes filled out that i can for my ocd. but between that mote and the steelsinger note not spawning, i will just have to wait.

[white igloo]

Pain

[gilded rock]

Kinda silly too imo

I would have imagined he was the one to drop them in the first place.

[white igloo]

I hope that's changed in the future, cuz I'm tired of waiting for 2-3 hours just for a chance to get a fragment for 3 armor pieces, only to constantly get dupe Erstroot or Cliver fragments.

Same for Dewelion, still have yet to get a fragment of that sword after joining in P12

[modest pasture]

as for drops. RNG is just RNG. I somehow got the seathorn while levelling to get my prisms early, like two days ago. and got clives on day one of the organs somehow. but still zero on the wazzard. and also zero bow runes from ruthos. statistics and percentages

[long grove]

likely later, because it would've meant a lot less organ runs for testing purposes

[sly escarp]

They already announced they're upping the Wazzard drop rates

[sly escarp]

This

[gilded rock]

I thought it was swapping out the estroot ~~ Clivers ~~ for a new bow? Wouldn’t that keep the rates the same?

[sly escarp]

#soulframe-news

[finite stone]

Yeah once the ode compound bow and gravity dagger thing are ready, they'll likely be what replaces the wazzard drip

[sly escarp]

Just announced

[knotty moon]

Clivers were already removed from The Organ as well.

[slim portal]

if my goal was to get as much data as possible from players i would simply implement a token/coin system where finishing a certain objective reward you that thing to be used for acquiring different stuff

for pity mechs

[gilded rock]

Yeah sorry meant estrerroot

[sly escarp]

Read the most recent news post again please

[finite stone]

Well increasing the wazzard chance means decreasing the erstroot chance, they're one and the same

[knotty moon]

Amen to that.

[finite stone]

it's a ratio

[unborn grail]

Is there any chance that hotfix drops today or is it gonna be a dry weekend?

[modest pasture]

not for your mom

[gilded rock]

My confusion was due to the way the drops currently are. Like if root had a 99% drop chance and replacing it with the bow, would just give the bow a 99% drop chance. The others would still have been in that 1% split. The SS though suggest they are actually changing the percentages.

[modest pasture]

sorrry couldnt help it

[knotty moon]

Hope for today, prepare for next week.

[unborn grail]

Send her my regards i guess, shes dead

[modest pasture]

geeze i was gonna say you delivered a softball pitch, then played the card.

[shut robin]

I haven't heard that card since high school

[knotty moon]

As per rules of the server I would advice to avoid sharing private details, even if done jokingly.

[modest pasture]

exactly, its been lost to the ages

[unborn grail]

I had to make him feel a bit bad for that one

[shut robin]

I don't think it worked

[unborn grail]

Cold

[modest pasture]

nada. enough misery in the world. i have a blitzel to level

[brazen nymph]

anyone know how to farm Seachnall? I've been entering the Neath'uns dungeon but the boss never spawns even in the big boss room

[knotty moon]

There is a specific entrance, and a respawn timer of 30min.
(old map but should still be accurate)

[brazen nymph]

ohhhh a specific entrance, gotcha. Thank you very much i've been entering the one behind Kobacha

[upbeat cradle]

Idk if i missed something but before hotfix 2, fellust had 7 hits, was nerfed to 6, but now i'm getting only 5 hits?

I'm using the new staff bc i'm leveling it up

21 spirit 23 courage, paladin Knight prism

[white igloo]

I still wanna know why Archstorm's icon looks more like fire than electricity-

[upbeat cradle]

Seems like i get 6 hits only if i have the beast of mora prism equipped

I wonder if this is intended

[sly escarp]

Weapon hits scaling based on virtues makes sense, kind of

But the same build dropping from 7 to 5...wonder if there was a calculation being done that got affected

They reduced the base hits count and that made the calculation scale a bit to reduce high Courage builds by 2 hits

[upbeat cradle]

it was 7 before the 2nd hotfix, after it it got nerfed to -1 hits

so 6 hits

[sly escarp]

That makes sense

[upbeat cradle]

but just now i noticed that

[kind roost]

is feral worth maxing on orengall pact ?

[upbeat cradle]

and the wiki says nothing about it so i guess i'll just wait

[sly escarp]

Sounds like it's that time again!

#1438224825113120788 time! does the bug report dance

[upbeat cradle]

but it does make sense that weapon hits scale on virtues

however, they said that they eliminated(?) the abilites being changed by virtues

i may be wrong there

[sly escarp]

No, they changed how virtues scale abilities

[long grove]

abilities now scale on their own virtue rather than virtues affecting one aspect like range/strength/duration

[sly escarp]

Courage now affects your red ability across all bonus stats, Spirit your green ability the same, and Grace your blue ability

[upbeat cradle]

ooh yeah yeah, i now remember

thanks

hm, interesting

[long grove]

minor exception to spirit, cuz it does give ability cooldown rate

[upbeat cradle]

i checked sirin's wiki page and it does still have courage on their calculations so the wiki may be outdated?

or the calculations may still be the same? idk

[kind roost]

i use orengall pure grace melee my blue ability gives smite chance and courage bonus maybe i should try making it cour/grace hybrid

[long grove]

the change was just last week, the wiki is out of date yes

[raven axle]

HOTFIXXXX

[dusty hare]

coming in hot

[raven axle]

coming inside Soulframe. . .

[upbeat cradle]

we'll just have to wait ig

thanks for the discussion, it was very helpful

[visual bolt]

Hey, would I be missing something or is this bounty impossible to complete? Need to open three of the caskets and that one doesn't seem reachable

[brittle nacelle]

do you need to open the box at the top there?

[gaunt void]

it's a puzzle

[brittle nacelle]

looks like entrance room it has a puzzle ||button it at the second floor, same one as coffin, on the left side||

[visual bolt]

Ah, thanks a lot! I didn't even know this room had a puzzle in it

[rugged plover]

do i no longer need that stone to change factions????

and how do i start bounties

[sly escarp]

World trees

[sly escarp]

You still need the talisman to swap

[eternal coyote]

Super new here. Where is the game at in development?

[sly escarp]

Pre-alpha

[rugged plover]

ahh thank you, but how do i craft talismans? do i just go to the faction and purchase their talisman and craft it or?

[sly escarp]

You have to farm the fragments

Rose Bodkin from Ode chests, Sproutling Seed from Glades, and the King talisman from Denmark

[rugged plover]

ughhhh

ok thank you guess i gotta do that now

[sly escarp]

They're fairly common drops, if it helps

[normal sail]

dw bodkin is ultra common lol

[rugged plover]

i want rose for the armour

[visual radish]

The material to craft the talisman is in the factions btw

[ruby girder]

Denmark Undercity lol

[visual radish]

Time to mug the danish

[ruby girder]

I’m picturing my what that could be now lol

[rugged plover]

oh i already have the rose bodkin thing i just need the shimmer

ok guess i still gotta farm for standing

[wet tulip]

how is it possible T3 glades tale on NE tree give only 653 rep xD