gameplay-discussion

[blazing wolf]

Oh? I'll have to find that

[smoky crater]

can't walk there really

[frozen ether]

🎵 🎼 🎶

[brittle nacelle]

yeah it is obtainable from weapon racks with polearms I'm just being lazy since I no longer have anything I need to farm for or level up

[unreal roost]

hey all, what is parry stability cost? going off verite:polished and wondering what it exactly does

[brittle nacelle]

but much stability parrying costs you, that being said I don't think parrying costs any so I assume it means block stability cost rather than parry

[unreal roost]

interesting. I was trying to think obscure about it and started thinking when you parry it takes that much more of their parry bar XD

but I assume its a menial downside considering the benefits

[smoky crater]

the - parry stability cost is a positive stat even tho it's red in the UI

[blazing wolf]

he just reset and has brass, Avakot

[brittle nacelle]

anyone near him and can taxi me to him/

[blazing wolf]

Ive just been doing the dungeon near the alca grove

that said if you can join Im there

[brittle nacelle]

ah I forgot to tab back in to discord

oh well it's not that important I'll be able to farm up on the next patch

[proud veldt]

A couple of questions

[smoky crater]

spooky

[proud veldt]

1-i need to reboot and reinstall the OS of my PC, i can simply find the mail with the launcher and download the game again without problem?

[smoky crater]

you can just login to the website again and download the launcher from there just fine yes

[proud veldt]

2-how many birds of the bird event there are? I got the full set and the other helmet, bow and weapon

[lament seal]

there's the lord cardinal and lady cardinal, and a cardinal talisman as well since you didn't list that in your obtained items

[white igloo]

Just 2 bird skins, I think you need at least 1-2 fragments for each?

someone correct me if I'm wrong

[blazing wolf]

3 each

[proud veldt]

Ty everyone

[twilit roost]

how do i unlock reforging? Also how do i upgrade the totems?

ty in advance

[lament seal]

Reforging: reach bond rank 2 with Tuvalkane (the smith) by crafting unique items
Totems: Right click on a totem or click the "Upgrade" button in the lower left when you have a totem selected

[twilit roost]

how to obtain totem upgrade resource?

[lament seal]

Release spare totems or hit notes perfectly / hit the extra notes when charming animals

[twilit roost]

tysm!

[opaque ferry]

Silly question how do you craft in game

[blazing wolf]

Need to find the correct ancestor

should be east of the starting area?

[opaque ferry]

Thanks

[blazing wolf]

If you have to carry a heavy thing with two hands or it mentions steelsinging youre on the rigth track

[brittle nacelle]

Also releasing spare runes, especially the ones you get from seige since they are most likely to be the ones you have duplicates of

[solemn goblet]

hey does anyones files open up when trying to start soulframe download?

[regal shadow]

Yes, it's asking you to select download folder

[frozen ether]

is there cap to how many duplicate runes & totems you can hold?

[zinc gale]

I got a flower planted in instance 69 and another in 420. Is there anything else I can do with my 2 remaining flowers? I feel like I beat the game already

[frozen ether]

damn best i got was 422

[brittle nacelle]

Totems not that I'm aware, when they were first introduced they got duped in peoples inventory and people got thousands iirc so at the very least if there is a cap it's not one that you can reach through normal gameplay imo
Runes I don't know but I do have just over 50 of one rune so I doubt it's a cap that would matter for most people

[frozen ether]

ok cool i could sell a lot right now but somethings making me hold onto them until i feel the need to sell up

[brittle nacelle]

I do the same typically, I don't need the currency immediately so why sell it

I like to see how much I can hors

[chrome heart]

are you supposed to lose all of your virtue points when you swap pacts?

[tired sail]

Reload the arsenal there are some UI glitches if you swap pacts

[chrome heart]

gotcha thanks

[sullen meteor]

Hi all. Can i ask how much XP is needed for rank 5 in the factions? I'm currently about to hit 20k for rank 3

[hexed flicker]

pretty sure it is 5k, 5k, 20k, 20k, 30k

so 80k total

so 5 days maxing out to hit max rank (assuming you don't buy anything)

[restive copper]

Quick question. Curious about what story is technically the main progression in the game. What story are we meant to follow? I have garren rood and bromius unlocked and beaten

[velvet veldt]

The story is really just a list of 'fables' that become ancestors and either people in the nightfold or pacts for you to play with.

Sounds like you just need the wolf.

[idle owl]

Then that's it for now

[sullen meteor]

Thank you. I'm with Alca's Children's faction. Do you know if the 3 star tales give more xp at the end? It feels like such a grind just for this 20k lol

[restive copper]

Time to fold a wolf

[sullen meteor]

There's Orengall whose quest can be started by finding a letter near the smaller red balloons.

[red lake]

Is it just me or is parrying lv25+ enemies harder?

[restive copper]

I dont think Ive found that yet

Ive been trying to get the 16th world tree

[sullen meteor]

On the island?

There's a quick guide online to glitch yourself into the water but iirc, it said that the fog doesn't clear

[restive copper]

Correct

[sullen meteor]

I can't parry with magic for the life of me. I used melee for a short time to try the phantom hit or something after a perfect dodge and to see how better parrying was and i managed them once lol

[lament seal]

fwiw, you're not intended to get to that tree and get no in-game benefit from it

[red lake]

Speaking of magic dear lord i hate the grenade/explosive arrow spam when enemies are lv30+ when playing as melee

[sullen meteor]

Omg full agree! I'm with the magic pact as a main rn so i have the skill of sticking them in place for a while. I try getting them down asap and putting down a heal so i just have to deal with the hit motion whilst ignoring them lol

Also, i've had the game for 2 days now and spent the whole time playing yday running EVERYWHERE before i accidentally happened upon the seeds growing on the lil tree in Nightfold which let you fast travel lol

[red lake]

well at least i found out i we can actually perfect dodge the explosions after suffering through them in alot of fights

[tired sail]

Those are locked behind the Waste Bear quest, so until you finsihed that quest, the tree wasn't in nightfold.

[sullen meteor]

Ah! That'll be why i didn't see it beforehand. I figured Verminia always had the seeds but i hadnt seen them yet

[sullen meteor]

Do you do the dodge just as the projectile hits the floor? I roll but always still seem to get hit by the outside of it

[red lake]

I dodge after 2-ish seconds after it hits the floor, doesn’t always work i need to practice more

[velvet veldt]

There's ongoing bug about it with similar results. Imo, the enemies get faster and the parry window is thus smaller.

[red lake]

I have noticed the parry windows getting smaller and yeah they attacks faster too, in particular i really hate the assasin with dual axes some of their attacks have a fast near instant wind up

[sullen meteor]

Has anyone done the crystals puzzle in the Crypt? I've done all the totems and ambushes so now i just need the final kill after the talisman is made and the crystals. Easy to do solo or need a guide?

[hexed flicker]

so 3 stars give more rep than 1 stars but also take a little longer. The more important thing is to do the rep quests in a relatively high level area. (NE corner is pretty popular). Up there you get 500 for a 1, 950 for a 2 and I think 1400 for a 3

[velvet veldt]

Everything in the dungeons is fairly soloable and easy. Feel free to invite people though

[velvet veldt]

yeah. I regularly test myself against all the mobs in the NE including the spirit twigs. Those attacks and feints are a pain haha. Especially the twigs with weapons.

[sullen meteor]

Gotcha. thank you. I figured as much, but never really took notice of the rewards at the end of the sparrow tales.

[sullen meteor]

I'll try doing the sequence solo first. So long as it has no time limit, i'm hoping itll only take a few times if i write the sequence down too

[hexed flicker]

the 3 star ones do noticably offer better item rewards (regardless of level).

for Children you can get orengall armor set

[sullen meteor]

I currently have Orengall's fang and Greaves but i don't have all the fragments yet. I've just begun Medicant kills #for his armour set

[burnt fiber]

Hey guys how long does it take to get the Thawtide birds? I'm short on time to play and couldn't play since the event started, but I don't want to miss the birdies if they are easy to get

[sullen meteor]

I'm currently forging Lord Cardinal who i got after doing the feeders a couple of times. Idk how many birds there are to collect though

[frigid spoke]

rng, just have to feed the birds, after you break the squawkers

[lament seal]

for the birds specifically you also will need to craft and put up the seeders

[velvet veldt]

There's just two. Lady and Lord.

[sullen meteor]

Ah nice. I'm not far off then. Just got the first fragment for Lady too

[lament seal]

you'll need 3 fragments each

I ended up with 10 lady fragments before getting the last lord fragment 🙃

[velvet veldt]

Those bird people are everywhere. Also, no stability, so one kick puts them on their patookas.

[drifting cape]

it took me forever to get lord cardinal

but when i played there was a bug that let you make free seeders. now you gotta actually build them

[chrome mauve]

I'm stuck at 29,150 with Silent Rose for two days now, no matter how many bounties I do. What gives?

[lament seal]

daily reset just happened an hour and a half ago, are you still stuck at 29,150?

[chrome mauve]

yup

it's weird. i went up 3 levels playing the day before yesterday. now my points won't move at all

it's as if the game let me use up 3 days of daily cap

[sullen meteor]

I'd love to know how the Dendrit spot who's real and who's fake amongst their ranks due to the Sinecure disguises. I was surprised af when i saw the non-hostile ones mulling around homesteads lol

[velvet veldt]

Are you buying faction level or already maxxed out and just accumulating points? Either way, it's strange, just wondering.

[lament seal]

not sure what it could be, maybe the display is glitching and you reached the maximum for your rank

[velvet veldt]

They will alert Sinicule too it seems. At least it seems when they scream that I get found

[chrome mauve]

buying? not sure what that is. I'm doing the midrath bounties and am almost at rank 5. i want to switch to Alca's

[sullen meteor]

I know it's saying you've not hit 30k yet but have you double checked that you can't rank up? My XP bar does keep going from almost complete right down to it looking like i've just started a new rank

[chrome mauve]

yeah, there's no option to rank up

[frigid spoke]

change factions for a week, see if that does anything

[sullen meteor]

Can you change factions without getting to rank 5 in the one you're currently in? I thought it was rank 5, make the new talisman then switch

[frigid spoke]

yeah and you keep progress

[sullen meteor]

or is that pacts?

[frigid spoke]

rank 2 or 3 to buy the thing to make different faction tali

[chrome mauve]

well! don't let anyone tell you that complaining gets you no-where. I just di d a 1-star and now my points are going up again.

[velvet veldt]

You can change when you get the rank to get the new talisman.

Glad you got it sorted.

[chrome mauve]

thanks. how do i join Alca's?

just go in the cave?

[sullen meteor]

Alca's is cute. I love hearing "Oi leggy!" in the distance

[chrome mauve]

Big Legs!!

[frigid spoke]

Have the talisman made, go to cave, solve mini riddle and talk to the boss

[sullen meteor]

Big Boss....even bigger than the OG in MGS lol

[velvet veldt]

Go to the cave and beat up the avakot, or just..wear the alca talisman and ask nicely. The Tormented Stag

I hate how hard that mascot is to find in the woods sometimes.

[chrome mauve]

I have to find the lady with the horribly fake french accent and can't remember where to look for her

[red lake]

The crazy thing is the most basic grunt, the soldier attacks crazy fast at close range at lv25-30+, I can never react in time to parry.

[sullen meteor]

Outside of quests, she should be in Nightfold, if you've already sent her there

[velvet veldt]

I don't know if we're allowed to do links here, but there is a soulframe interactive map you can look up with all that info

[velvet veldt]

The one with the dual axes? or the Rogue type with flyblades?

[chrome mauve]

sheWAS in nightfold but took a powder

[velvet veldt]

Yeah, she's leveling up so you can get Cogah. You can find her at the original spot, near the Wazzard

[red lake]

the basic one with the sword, they do a slow wind up attack from a far but when they get close they do a crazy fast swing combo

[velvet veldt]

ohh, I just back up and make them lunge or look for the gold streak

[sullen meteor]

Ah apologies. I've been trying to get her to rank 2 with no luck so far so she's stuck in there for now lol

[red lake]

Yup thats how i deal with them the problem is if i fail to parry their initial wind up attack and connect they do a 3 hit combo super fast lol

[chrome mauve]

I made the color pack from Silent Rose and now I want to ge tthe one from Alca's so I can level her up too. but she ran away! maybe to learn better french?

[velvet veldt]

Yeah I usually can parry them, but when I don't I dodge to the side, because the AI makes any other enemy flank you with them lunging

[sullen meteor]

Basically me when i'm trying to do the accent lol. I'm Northern af though so it sounds ridiculous

[velvet veldt]

I'm southern and my french is lovely. Okay probably not, I did get complimented last time I visited though.

[red lake]

I can usually parry them too, Sometimes even 2 at a time in quick succession but then i get flanked or thrown off balance by a exploding projectile

Gods i hate those grenade throwing turds

[velvet veldt]

yeah that is the deal, really. You're always having to move and counter because of stagger and those grenades and arrows and shield arcanic

[red lake]

Yeah getting staggered sucks, i wish Tethrens number 3 skill made you immune to stagger even for only 10sc or something

[chrome mauve]

I'm sure verminia's french is fine, it's the accent on her english that is too fake

[sullen meteor]

That's because you're southern fairies and everyone loves a fairy 😉

[velvet veldt]

Yeah, they do play it up quite a comedic bit. It's quite distinguishable though, which I think is what they were going for lol

[sullen meteor]

tbh i thought they were exaggerating it for the snobby and uppity vibe

[velvet veldt]

Well I write about fairies, does that count? Always loved Brian Froud

[velvet veldt]

Definitely. She has a Cruella Deville but I love Rats kinda thing going on

[chrome mauve]

I would like it better if they toned down the frenchie thing and made her sound more like Marie in warframe. they could speak all her dialog in french and use subtitles. that would be better than the travesty she talks now

[sullen meteor]

his fairies are nightmare fuel. I've just googled them as we don't have schools or anything up here yet. Only just got dial up broadband so the images took AGES to load.

[chrome mauve]

"only just got broadband"? where are you? in Canada?

[idle trout]

game lookin good

i got it few hours ago access

[nocturne plaza]

quick question, what is this 'endless mode' that players r asking for in game chat from time to time?

[sullen meteor]

I love the rats! they remind me of my late irl ones - Arbiter and Artyom.

[velvet veldt]

Arena. 20 scaling rounds with twig spirits

[chrome mauve]

I found it once or twice in the Andurin Glades.

[nocturne plaza]

how do u unlock it? 🤔

[sullen meteor]

ahahah i'm only jesting. It's a long standing joke that we say us up North in England are 30 years behind thanks to the South taking all the money lol

[velvet veldt]

Well he had the concept that fairies were baby angels, but that angels themselves were just invested spirits of a thing. So any 'thing' with thought could be a fairy, it's an idea that people like Gaiman took into the concept of thoughtform. Anyways

[chrome mauve]

I have cousins here in Canada that don't have broadband yet.

[velvet veldt]

How interesting. Every place has its civil conflicts it seems

[velvet veldt]

You go to the Glades...and it's random. So the best way is to turn left and see if it's endless and if not, then go back out and come back in

[sullen meteor]

From what i can tell, there are a few places in England that don't either but i believe its due to how rural they are. Is that the same case for your cousins?

[chrome mauve]

she's not that far from Toronto (maybe 1 hour drive). Canada is a BIG country so we don't realize distances the same way europeans do. it's a small town but there's no excuse being that close to one of the biggest cities in the whole country.

[chrome mauve]

people live 2+ hours from Toronto and commute for work, to give you some idea

[sullen meteor]

You'd think that being so close to a major city, that getting broadband there wouldn't be too hard at all. I have a tiny idea about the multi hour travel time as it took me 2 hours in a morning to get to my uni, in the same city i live in. The only reason it took that long though was the school and work commutes backing traffic up so much lol

[chrome mauve]

LOL. the 2+ hours is at 100kmph on the busiest highway in north america

[sullen meteor]

I think i also have a bug with ranking up. My most recent sparrow tale put me at 20,500 xp so ive gone to rank up (despite it letting me go 500 xp over the 20k needed) and it's saying i have 10,500 xp

[chrome mauve]

I hope prelude 13 comes out next week and the fix some of this stuff

so far I'm loving this game. I have over 7K hours into warframe and like to support this dev team. hopefully it ends up as good as warframe

[left wigeon]

Got bear arm, not seeing the sauce yet but still got plenty of arts to get

[lament seal]

unranked pact arts generally don't got the sauce yet

[drifting cape]

yea

[left wigeon]

Also heard you have to have good armor

[lament seal]

bear is a bit special in that you want a lotta armor too tho

[drifting cape]

yes, his 1 scales with armor up to a point

[lament seal]

not as important as it used to be but still important

[drifting cape]

that point being.. i forget. 80?

[left wigeon]

Is like clothes armor the same as stat armor?

[lament seal]

they provide armor stats, so yes

[sullen meteor]

Same! I think my biggest fix need rn is the light that goes around you when using the Odiac. In dungeons its blinding me if i'm crouched so i can't even see ahead

[left wigeon]

Need to farm for the mendicant king stuff

[lament seal]

mendicant king, orengall, mockery, and arbearer are all top-tier

[drifting cape]

they did announce they were aiming for a monday/tuesday release didnt they?

[left wigeon]

Oh yeah and finally got my first rune

[lament seal]

[left wigeon]

Odiac now makes more lightning

[drifting cape]

lol yea putting that on odiac is pretty funny

[velvet veldt]

Yeah sometimes it gets stuck until you do a quest and then it opens up again.

[lament seal]

nice, that's one I oddly don't have yet even though I have the cogah magic rune lol

[sullen meteor]

I've done all main quests as far as i can tell, its just Verminia that is still rank 1. i'll log out and try again

[velvet veldt]

No no, I mean do a lvl 1 faction quest then it opens up

[sullen meteor]

ah, lemme try

[left wigeon]

Mendicant staff seems pretty good too, starter green one just seems mid but maybe I'm building wrong

Still not sure which totems to run

[sullen meteor]

all 1 stars just vanished off my map. only one 3 star available. ill have to run around and see if they pop up again

[drifting cape]

mendicant staff is best in the game

other than the wyld oscelda staff

[velvet veldt]

They need more shields, GS and Staves

[chrome mauve]

I'm hoping they will one day remove all the cut scenes. can't even count the number of times I died because I was bowing to the Silent Rose gods

[velvet veldt]

or just give us a way to skip them like the animal saving ones

[left wigeon]

Oo

[drifting cape]

you can tell "mid" weapons by their attunement. right now it goes from 1-3. the starter weapons all have 1, most weapons have 2, and some special ones have 3

[velvet veldt]

Yeah usually if you just run in any direction they will open up for that area. They seem to have a timer of sorts

[chrome mauve]

I think the animal cage animation is good - one for each animal type but then no more... please!!!

[left wigeon]

So 2 is best

[drifting cape]

3 is best

[left wigeon]

Except for 3 but there aren't many 3

[drifting cape]

but not every weapon type has a weapon with 3

yeah

[chrome mauve]

is there a bow or staff that's a 3?

[left wigeon]

Does changing the attunement change them both?

[lament seal]

I like that the heavy is a wide beam rather than a narrow circle

[drifting cape]

no. well idk about the wyld weapons, but i dont think they are

[chrome mauve]

nope, I thnk they're all 2's

[lament seal]

I believe all the Wyld weapons are Tier 2

Paragon is technically tier 0 but that's a special tier, it turns into Tier 2 with a bless though

[drifting cape]

yes

[velvet veldt]

paragon, purity, dewelion, marrow, and gathanon..think that's it

[drifting cape]

well idk for sure by what you mean by "both" but i think i get you

[left wigeon]

Like both attunement symbols

[chrome mauve]

Paragon's a 3

[drifting cape]

yeah

[left wigeon]

Idk if there are any that scale with 2

But that would be neat

[drifting cape]

paragon scales with all 3 by default

it doesnt scale very wello with all 3... but it does scale

[lament seal]

Paragon's a Tier 0, which is very small scaling in all 3, and turns into 2 when Blessed

[velvet veldt]

if half scales with all 3, and should full scale with one if you bless it, but I didn't bless it

[sullen meteor]

Still not working. According to sparrow tale, i now have 20,650xp but the enclave is saying i have 10,650xp

[drifting cape]

paragon turns into double scaling when you bless it? thats cool, didnt know that

[left wigeon]

Is grace a dump stat rn? Haven't seen any builds with it

[velvet veldt]

can you buy faction rep level?

[sullen meteor]

How do i do that?

[velvet veldt]

Not if your weapon has grace attunement

[velvet veldt]

Go to your faction enclave and see if you can rank up

[left wigeon]

Dang

[drifting cape]

kinda sorta but yeah the most important thing is that your weapon scales with the stat

[lament seal]

sparrow tale ending tells you the total standing you gained from all previous ranks as well, so you're rank 2 (so +10k from the two 5k rank ups) and have 10,650 progress in it

[sullen meteor]

It won't let me. That's what im currently trying to do. I should be rank 3 now

[drifting cape]

but also we're getting an update very, very, very soon that will change all of that

devstream will talk about it

[sullen meteor]

I've done a ton of the tales today though so this is saying i've only done 650xp today

[left wigeon]

Yeah holding off on blessing anything until then

[drifting cape]

yea good idea

[velvet veldt]

Sounds like you're about halfway to rank 3

[left wigeon]

Can't wait till they add this thing

Knell knight my beloved

[drifting cape]

is that knell guy's weapon?\

cool

[left wigeon]

Concept art for it yea

[velvet veldt]

Get somebody to do NE t3's or look in the recruit chat for t3 Ban and you'll rank up in no time

[drifting cape]

just make sure you abandon any undercity T3s if you care about effeciency

[sullen meteor]

How though? I've not been hawking my xp all the time, but i ranked up at 10k for rank 2 yesterday and have watched it go upto 20,500. i dont understand how it's saying i have 10,650xp total. Even if the 10k is correct (which it isnt), its saying ive only gotten 650xp from multiple 3 star tales alongside multiple 2 and 1 stars

[velvet veldt]

The tales after each level tells you your total for that faction including what you've already spent on levelling up. So if you have 20, 500, then you have 5k each for the first 2, and then 10.5k toward the 20k to level 3

[left wigeon]

Oh yeah uhh every time I try to fight a bannerette their health bar is greyed out, I assume because their armor is higher than my damage. Is that normal?

[sullen meteor]

jeez talk about a grind then. So it's 30k for rank 3?

[drifting cape]

yeah you are correct

[velvet veldt]

Total, yeah

[drifting cape]

and its normal

[lament seal]

you might also be in a high level area which also influences armor

[velvet veldt]

Yeah, depending on your weapon there's always a way around it. Or just invite someone to help

[left wigeon]

I can normally power through with heavy attacks but maybe I gotta invest more in me weapons

Like spirit

[sullen meteor]

I heavy hit them. takes time but if you can cheese it at all and your weapons high enough, it goes down slowly

[drifting cape]

you really should be putting all your points into whatever stat your weapon scales with

[velvet veldt]

I just soul smite them to death or use rune powers

[drifting cape]

or a lot of them

[left wigeon]

I see

Been trying to build for my pact abilities but like they're on cool downs while my weapons are always out

So makes sense

Courage staff when

[sullen meteor]

Magic Build?

[velvet veldt]

You can make a courage staff with a blessing, but it takes a while. most people just use odiac

[drifting cape]

yeah getting blessed feybault is a pain

[lament seal]

every magic weapon atm scales with Spirit

[left wigeon]

Ye

[drifting cape]

avacado sells them for a reason. greedy little guy

[left wigeon]

So go like full spirit

[velvet veldt]

yeah you can do spirit as any build, you just won't get the dmg boost from arcanics

[left wigeon]

If I'm using a courage sidearm should I go half and half?

Or still focus on one

[drifting cape]

one

[lament seal]

generally building for whatever your weapon scales with until it doesn't increase any further is your best bet, then focusing on whatever your pact wants

especially since enemy armor is a flat reduction

[velvet veldt]

focus on one, get both your sidearm and main weapon using the same attunement

[drifting cape]

yeah if youre like rank 17 then you have some points to play around with

[left wigeon]

Or just keep my sidearm in my pocket

[lament seal]

higher rank weapons also reach their attune cap faster which also gives you more to work with

rarity*, not rank

[left wigeon]

What's the attune cap?

[lament seal]

it varies with each weapon, you can either look it up or increase your virtue one at a time until weapon damage doesn't go up anymore

[left wigeon]

A

[lament seal]

e.g. the Odiac has an attune cap of 21

[left wigeon]

Idk if I even have 21 points to spend

[lament seal]

pact upgrades and talismans both help a lot

[left wigeon]

Oh yeah need a better talisman

Still have the starter one

[sullen meteor]

If you're on the magic build and using staffs and/or the odiac, try to have the vernal pool and Akin upgrades so when you're doing a greyed out bannerette, your abilities recharge quicker. I bestone them, drop the Elderbloom and then heavy hit them. I'll sometimes bestone them randomly whilst waiting for Elder to recharge again

[lament seal]

your faction should have a talisman available that gives +6 to a stat

[left wigeon]

Should probly finish leveling oscelda

Only rank 2 with the faction rn

Leveling bear pact at the moment

[lament seal]

only one faction rank left to go then

[velvet veldt]

faction and pacts are different things

[velvet veldt]

are you still levelling your faction? I was about to get on and we could duo some t3 in NE.

[neat night]

I only have like ~ 7 weapons left to level up, all pacts and other weapons maxed out o_O and I only MR 12
How did other people reach 17 ?

[sullen meteor]

I've logged off for now. Jumping on some Fallout 4 to satisfy my scrap everything addiction lol

[lament seal]

have you been discovering locations as well?

[velvet veldt]

41 weapons, 11 pacts, and all the motes

[velvet veldt]

No worries.

[left wigeon]

Mote?

Aren't those the companions that they're still working on

[neat night]

wat is mote

[left wigeon]

Or is that something else

[sullen meteor]

Can you actually duo? I thought you could only do that in dungeons and that stuff

[lament seal]

the floating glowy gold things you can find in locations that translate location names

[left wigeon]

Oh yeah

[sullen meteor]

I always played solo in warframe so ive no idea about teaming up or anything like that on these games

[lament seal]

you can squad up basically anywhere in SF, including the overworld
solo is recommended if you're doing fables though since they're buggy in multiplayer

[neat night]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh, so discover location also give mastery rank ?

[lament seal]

yep

[neat night]

so that why, ty

better get my ass off the endless room and go around then 🙁

[sullen meteor]

The motes bake my nut sometimes lol. I see the two floating eyes at locations but very rarely find the second one. I know you have to go back sometimes at later stages to get the final ones but i'm mostly finding one, running round like a headless chicken then giving up

[lament seal]

they have a deceptively large range they can spawn in for some locations

there was a person a while back that found some motes for a village deep in the adjacent forest

[sullen meteor]

I happened upon a location near some swamp area which was quick to run around so didn't think it'd take long. Two eyes but only found one. I thought the location would be swamp only but im guessing not

[unkempt mango]

do we know the drop rates of runes?

[scenic solar]

bleh, need 2 more brass for the garren chest piece...

[lament seal]

no

[unkempt mango]

zamn, okay my lucks just being extra weird then :/

[left wigeon]

Just fought mendiking, prolly my favorite boss so far and got the rune first try wee

[lament seal]

the two sides of rngesus

[left wigeon]

Unless it's a guaranteed drop

[lament seal]

not guaranteed

[left wigeon]

Woa

[unkempt mango]

like whys it take me killing the spiders like 6 times each to get the rune they drop, but i can get back to back runes from grool seeker ruthos on my second time killing him and discharged nimrod on my first kill of him

[sullen meteor]

his companions/minions are the most annoying thing with that fight

[left wigeon]

Tru

But dudes so slow he kinda needs em

[lament seal]

it's just how DE games work, they just know what you're actually grinding for and will give you everything except that

[unkempt mango]

stg, exact same thing in warframe happens lmao

cpuldnt get a bronze piece from a relic if i needed it, but the gold one? here have it twice

xd

[sullen meteor]

RNG. It's like when you're trying to do completion log or clues in Runescape and get duplicates for weeks on end and never the thing you want lol

[lament seal]

soon as I go into an omni fissure for some extra forma BPs, I walk away with a thousand ducats of prime parts

[dapper rain]

guessing this 1

[echo ocean]

people I have a question, is the game dx11 or dx12?

[lament seal]

Either, there's a launcher setting for it

[echo ocean]

oh ok thanks

What do you guys do with a weapon you don't want anymore? Is the best thing just selling it to Avakot's?

[lament seal]

rank it up to 30 then sell it to Zenith (the camel)

[echo ocean]

Again thank you

[frozen jacinth]

hi i tried replaying warsong but even though i chose "a woven crown" my character still doesnt have a ponytail when i exit the mission

nevermind i just had to ruin through it twice

wait no it doesnt want to stay when i talk with verminia

[sullen meteor]

i thought warsongs just took things like skin tone, hair and eye colours as you're customising your mum and not you? i've only done the fable once so i may be wrong

[unkempt mango]

think theyll add target lock to the game like most other over the shoulder melee games have? honestly would make boss fights and 1 on 1 fights feel better imo

[frozen jacinth]

huh? if you want to change your hair you replay that fable

[frozen jacinth]

they mentioned this as a feature they're adding

[unkempt mango]

oh hell yeah, i havent seen a soulframe stream since the one i got my preludes code in so didnt know xp

[frozen jacinth]

it already has target lock btw, you just cant change who you target cuz its auto at the moment

[sullen meteor]

ah gotcha. i thought replaying it would just give you the option to customise your mum again

[frozen jacinth]

it does, but that change syour character

[frozen jacinth]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Cosmetics

[frigid spoke]

There is target lock, look at a mob n right click, you'll "lock" to them, it can break tho

[sullen meteor]

ty, i didnt know replaying could change the hairstyle itself as my character got the short curly hair when i chose a woven crown for my mum.

[frozen jacinth]

is your character male?

i dont know if it works for men

[unkempt mango]

tried that didnt really lock to them unless its a different keybind for me

[sullen meteor]

no, female. all the other stuff was correct but not the hair. ill replay and see if it changes

[frozen jacinth]

bro this damn thawtide bow wont drop

[red lake]

The trick is to not think about it lol

[unkempt mango]

the orengall pact 'kick' animation makes we want a fisticuffs combat art with cestus or gauntlets

theres just some primal itch for blunt, beat em down with your fist combat lol

[rough pawn]

Have you kicked w bromius yet? 😬

[frozen jacinth]

ill try that haha

[unkempt mango]

yeahh, it feels good. mixing the kicks into combos always feels nice

[rough pawn]

Just a giant bear paw swiping em in the chest 😂

[unkempt mango]

gotta be one of the scariest things to see coming at you from nowhere

[frozen jacinth]

i think it would be cool to have a potion that scales all low level enemies up to your level

or a setting or talisman or song or something

[rough pawn]

Cogah pots do that

[frozen jacinth]

yea but it puts the game into an alternate state. i want to be able to play the game with everything properly available to me, just with them scaling up

i did it i got all the thawtode fragments

also level 3 archstorm yiippeee

[hot oriole]

where do i find guardo in the neathuns?

[dawn glacier]

Hello, i need help To make Orengall envoy again, I already have 2 fragments, but it doesn't appear as an option to craft at the blacksmith.

[dreamy tartan]

hello just received a key some day ago and i'm about to go into this game is this game explorations based ?

like is it the main goal early on to just explore all the map

[dawn glacier]

I believe so, I leveled up my character basically by exploring the map, and you also need to find bosses and some items, interactions, secrets, if you don't use a guide, it takes several hours of exploration

[dreamy tartan]

i think that's not a bad things i will prob go to a guide when i will not know what to do or when i will thinks i have done all i can do

like that i will be like mind blown by what i can do xD

[half swift]

Im starting to wonder if either my mouse right click is dying [need to test more but i have not noticed it in other games] or if blocking on soulframe is being buggy for me. almost looks like im sometimes not putting my sword up. or spasm with my sword when i block. but never notice any spasming with warframe aimijng down sights

[true karma]

Hayoooo I got questions 😅

[brittle nacelle]

Ask away

[brittle nacelle]

I'm more having issues with block being slow and feeling bad to use on some weapons personally

[true karma]

So I noticed the little stars next to weapon and pact names in inventory
I’m guessing it’s like a tier list from common-rare
Rare having a little better stats my question is how do these work ?? How do you forge or gain a pact with a higher tier number

[half swift]

I been wondering that as well. i think it is that and its making me wonder if i should bother holding onto 1 stars, unless i got nothing to fit that area

[true karma]

Hmmmm same with pack garren is 3 but the rest are 1

[brittle nacelle]

The item tier you can craft is tied to Tulvakane's level (the smith character)
Once you make enough one star weapons you level up the bond to 2 and can make 2 star weapons (and unlock reforge) and same for tier 3

[true karma]

Aaaahhhhhh okay that makes sense higher the blacksmith the better weapons you can get

[brittle nacelle]

You should at least level them to 30 to get the points you get for weapon arts skill tree since each unique weapon gives a total of 5 points

[half swift]

O i been doing that.

[brittle nacelle]

Then yeah after that you can either hoard so you can say you own all weapons later or sell it (make sure to track which weapons you leveled up to 30 and sold, I personally suggest the buddy app in the avakot wiki)

[true karma]

Okay so craft all the bows level them fully then reforge recraft relevel untill they are all 3star ?

[half swift]

just finished the wolf pact. it was intresting but im either playing it like crap, or it needs support to bring out its full potiental especially with its first thing about more strength with allies. that and im vanurable with my first ability

[brittle nacelle]

No each weapon has it's own rank you can't rank up individual weapons, might've not explained properly

[true karma]

And what about the pacts ?? Same idea ?

[half swift]

My opinion unless you got the wyld version of the pact which can currently only be bought??? [correct me on this pls] hord pacts

unless you got the wyld version you can remove the none wyld version

[true karma]

Yeahh I kinda get what you mean it’s the little separate bubble in home tent with all the weapons displayed right but you get points for leveling weapons of the same category or am I confused ?

[brittle nacelle]

Yeah you can only get wyld pacts by buying founders atm but you will be able to obtain them for free later on

[brittle nacelle]

Yeah, each weapon has it's own skill tree where you can unlock perfect throws better parries and stuff like that. For each unique weapon you level from a certain weapon type you get 5 points to invest into that tree

[true karma]

Yeahh missed my chance with warframe so got the founder pack for Soulframe this time around

[brittle nacelle]

If your ingame name is also Mercury I might ask for you to make me a paragon sword then, I wanna collect paragons with cool names once they are tradable

[true karma]

Okayyy sickk I think I’ve got a grasp on it thanks ^^
What about the pacts cuz all my normal plus wyld versions are 1 star compared to garren who is 3 star for some reason

[smoky crater]

there's no 3 star pacts
the one's that show that they would be, are just a visual bug

[true karma]

Aaahhhh so pact tier is a bug weapon tier is very much something you can increase

[true karma]

Yeahh sure why not do I get to name it tho ?!

[smoky crater]

Garren's + a couple others are 2 stars in reality but that's because they're from completing fables

[true karma]

Must be a bug that mine is 3star then

[brittle nacelle]

Pact tiers don't really matter I don't think, just changes at what bond level you can craft it right?

[smoky crater]

the fragment for it "says" it's 3 stars yes but when you craft it it's 2 stars afaik

[brittle nacelle]

It will have your ingame name in the description if I got right, so it should say paragon sword forged by mercury or something like that to mention who you got it from (if you got the sword from someone else)

[true karma]

Aaaahhhh sick okay awesome good to know I wana know these things before the game kicks off so I’m already settled when the rush comes

[smoky crater]

and yeah pact rarity doesnt matter

[true karma]

Sickkk I love that

[brittle nacelle]

Thought about changing my in game name too so my sword will also have a cool name but don't have an idea for one

[true karma]

Cannn definitely help you with a cool name 🔥 pretty sure my ingame is MercuryLife so that’s pretty sick for a sword in my opinion

[full hearth]

Whatever you do, don't ask me for help, i'm not good with names.

[true karma]

Okayyyy so the tier of the weapon is connected to the bond of the blacksmith so you need lvl3 to craft tier3 weapons
And reforging a weapon is what makes it stronger by adding stats ?

[smoky crater]

yeh

tho you can't have multiple joineries on the same weapon, if you add a joinery to one that already has a joinery, it'll replace the old one

[true karma]

Okaysss sick I was just wondering if I can increase the tear of weapons I already have but I’m assuming that’s not possible just means you can craft the weapon at bond 2 not that it’s necessary weaker than a bond 3 weapon

[full hearth]

You cannot influence the star count no

Atleast currently that is

Generally the star count on weaponry aligns with its attunement

[true karma]

Sickkk okay cool I have a beter idea of what’s going on now

And by leveling individual weapons of a category increases the amount of point you have to spend on set weapon category in combat arts ?

[full hearth]

Each unique weapon grants 5 points towards the combat arts of its type, split across 30 ranks.

[true karma]

Okays so my bow points are capped at 14 right now so I’m assuming leveling more unique weapons in the bow catagory will increase that number untill it maxes out at 30 ?

[full hearth]

There are 5 bows (4 if we exclude the Starling) meaning you can have a maximum of 25 (20) combat art points for bows currently.

[true karma]

Okayyyy aweaomeee thanksssss I feel like I understand a lot more now
Now I gotta go and craft and level every single weapons 😅

[full hearth]

If you go ahead and discard some maxed weaponry

Do note we have no in-game way to track what has been mastered and what hasn't

[true karma]

Okay so best to just keep them all for now ?

[full hearth]

Either keep notes or use a third party tool like avakot buddy

Hoarding works, too, but that means you need a considerable amount of weapon slots.

[true karma]

I did get the founders pack so I have a few of those little moons to spare I’m not really one for buying items in the cash shop I can farm for

[velvet veldt]

Yeah those things are great haha.

Allow you to freely change

[smoky crater]

was probably talking about Arcs and not moonsteel thread

[true karma]

That’s the one

[velvet veldt]

pretty sure with the founders you get some moonsteel

I did

[shrewd maple]

looking for a Invitation Code, cause i don´t want to wait weeks or months to play/test this game.

[full hearth]

Well if you asked for recommendations, slots (weapon and pact) would be my top spot

Those you cannot acquire by playing

[true karma]

Yeapp like frame and weapon slots in warframe

[dapper rain]

reforge wont reset weapon level. consider reforge (ideally polished) early when have the resources
even the 1star weapons i knew gonna sell later for space found worth it. think makes more of a difference then it seems
(if the joinery blessed the weapon level would reset)

[full hearth]

The only joineries that will reset the rank are Blessed Joineries, you can safely apply the lower tiers yeah.

Stat wise Polished and Blessed are equal

[brittle nacelle]

Gave up on that already I'll just try to collect other people's cool names

[full hearth]

Are you prepared for the consequences

It'll haunt your weapon slots

[velvet veldt]

I wonder how the joineries will change when the virtue rework comes about

[full hearth]

We wont have to wait much longer to find out luckily

In my non biased opinion they should bring back Sun Gold and make it amazing

[brittle nacelle]

That's what I bought founders for, I got the currency for it

In my non biased opinion they should bring all of those back because they sound so damn cool

[hot oriole]

is cogah kabocha and gourd rune drops bugged? Done about 10 with 0 so far

[full hearth]

One of them even has some interesting implications in its description

[brittle nacelle]

Also you're one of the swords I'm hoping to get envoy Envoy

[brittle nacelle]

Which one?

[full hearth]

"Thought to be the currency of the Fey"

It's possible Arcs are made from Eldore

[brittle nacelle]

Severed weapons? Gimme Rivens sword in soulframe

[warm stump]

Why oh why is the spawn time for a t3 faction tale so long?

[full hearth]

Nevermind Arc description states Moonsteel

[brittle nacelle]

Honestly it sounds like a cool addition to be added for a later bond level with Tuvalkane once she has more self confidence

[warm stump]

that poor girl needs soooo much therapy

[brittle nacelle]

And is capable of calling what she does steelsinging instead of treating her work like ahh

Like ||tie it to a mission related to her like Verminia with waste bear, her hatred of the medicant and wazzard. Maybe more personal to Tuvalkane compared to waste bear where Verminia is kinda caught up in rather than leading it||

[true karma]

The new prelude is dropping tomorrow right ?

[brittle nacelle]

||and then those joineries only drop from that boss or that boss type like we have medicant type bosses but also sincure bosses but adding a corrupted fey or something like that for those joineries type||

[full hearth]

Devstream is, we wont know if Preludes is for sure.

[true karma]

But we’re closeeee which is all that matters 🔥

[silk sigil]

Hello guys! I m new to the game, I can buy another Garren Rood pact. is there any point doing it?

[full hearth]

No there isn't any reason to purchase the fragment. It's more a failsafe for those that sell their original Fable pacts.

[silk sigil]

I see! Thx

[brittle nacelle]

Only if you sell that pact, since there are limited pact slots you might decide to sell it and craft another so it's here for you to have a way to get it back

[scenic garnet]

How do I level up vermina? In order to build Cogah potion. Dose Cogah scale to my level ?

[brittle nacelle]

You need to make unique potions cloud quell, the ones you get from your faction

Maybe color pallets work too but I'm not sure

And cogah doesn't scale to your level specifically, it is harder and every boss you kill increases the level of other enemies (normal enemies included)

I think I've seen people get basic enemies to lv200

[scenic garnet]

So it is an arena?

[brittle nacelle]

No, Cogah takes place in the normal map (and yes you can enter the dungeons while in cogah) and each boss you kill increases the level of other enemies you encounter

[scenic garnet]

Im gonna have to watch more videos 🙈 I thought Cogah IS a Boss

I was googling about runes and it said to do Cogah.

[brittle nacelle]

It's a hard mode, your pact cooldowns are longer and I don't remember the other 2 debuff you get.
As for the runes the bosses you kill have a different rune drop table in cogah

MK without Cogah drops the fire rune for great sword, in Cogah mode be drops Treefell the other rune for great sword

And it's the same for the rest of the bosses

[velvet veldt]

Do the conga I mean Cogah

[scenic garnet]

Aaaaaah I see. So I can get runes without Cogah. Good to know

[velvet veldt]

Yeah. I don't even use some of the Cogah Runes. But I hunted them anyway because..why not

[brittle nacelle]

Yep, I like normal mode rune for bow and magick (magick cuz the cogah mode rune for them might still be bugged and stop the agari shroom from spawning)

[dapper rain]

ive gotten splitbolt with in past couple days

[brittle nacelle]

But for melee weapons I typically like the cogah mode rune better, except for great sword on paragon and igne mora cuz the aesthetic of it being on fire is too good

[azure bear]

let me know if i have to move this to a different channel or sm
so idk where to post this, but im lagging so much its crazy. im not running a crazy rig but i have an i5 11th gen, iris xe graphics, and 16 gb of ram running on an ssd. im not expecting to push perfect framerate but im lagging so much i cant even get to the graphics menu. it takes over 10 minutes of loading from when i press log in and another 10 when i click on the settings menu, then the game would just crash
ive already changed what i can from the config file ie lowering the resolution to the lowest and the antisropic or wtv filtering to 0x or 2x
to make it worse like a week ago i was running soulframe at like 27-30 fps using an i3 7th gen, intel hd graphics and 8 gb of ram so idk

[abstract hull]

Is the coop progression synced?

[full hearth]

In the sense that anything you acquire in another host's world is kept, xp, items, the like. While Fables technically can be done in co-op it's usually progress for the host. The Fables tend to not like being played coop in general, which can lead to issues.

[rough pawn]

To add to this, story fragments dont work in co-op most the time. I say most the time because every other time Ive done them in co-op, they only go to the host, but last night I was able to collect them as a party member and gain progress, so there does appear to be exceptions

[sly escarp]

Steve said not tomorrow, they want to get feedback on the new Virtues stuff before dropping it.

[full hearth]

👌

[uneven spindle]

imagine they shadowdrop it

[uneven spindle]

Alright chat, how are you all gonna beat this?

||source: sindragosa from world of warcraft||

[smoky crater]

I beat it by ignoring its existence completely because i dont play wow

[amber bolt]

Heya, does anyone knows the name of the music playing when talking to the Camel shop in Nighthold?

[smoky crater]

One sec

https://open.spotify.com/track/3h2kM4FH8Cq83y8T0Lwbjd

[uneven spindle]

huh a spotify link.
-# no spotify premium?

[smoky crater]

-# i got premium

[amber bolt]

Tyty :3

[smoky crater]

[amber bolt]

Is there a map with the locations of all world bosses? My memory is bad XD

[regal shadow]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12

[proud sable]

I know that they nerfed it but is Bromius just really bad now? I'm still leveling the pact, but rump thump just doesn't do anything. A cold glance would do more damage. It makes me wonder if I'm not doing it right or something...

[smoky crater]

It's still good 👀

Dont even need a crazy amount of armor to do a fairly good amount of dmg to lvl 30+ enemies

[white igloo]

I wish Grace would bump up the AOE range for Rump Thump

also really wishing there were Wyld versions of all the pacts in-game rn (obviously excluding Tethren, Oscelda and Sirin)

need me Wyld Mora's Hand

[halcyon marsh]

I have Bromius but haven’t used it yet, is the scaling off of armor vs each type or only physical or what?

[white igloo]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Bromius

[proud sable]

Yeah, I'm at 78 Total Armor with 36 Courage and Rank 2 Rump Thump. It's hitting for a couple hundred maybe? Just going to muscle through leveling the rest of the pact and see if it just needs more pact levels to feel better.

I guess I just expected a little more oomph from it. Could be my expectations were too high.

[smoky crater]

Probably

Not exactly a "nuke everything with 2 button presses" type of a game. Or atleast not meant to be

[granite jacinth]

tomorrow is the big day?

[hexed flicker]

How did you manage to get 78 armor?!?

[granite jacinth]

if tomorrow is the update what should i farm right now for thawtide?

[halcyon thicket]

It's not tomorrow

[keen river]

thawtide DOES end tomorrow, but p13 will be dropping a few days / a week-ish after

[tired granite]

Pact leveling is weird

Sometimes pacts kinda work before you level them significantly and other times they're like bromius and do literally nothing until you get pretty far in

[proud sable]

Arbear'ers Mask (10), Orengall's Cuirass (16), Mendicant King's Sabatons (10), Sidearm Totems: Ambling(15) & Clever (9), Main hand Totem - Rascal (14) and 4 more coming from...somewhere

[keen river]

are those last 4 maybe coming from a talisman? 🤔 is there one that adds that much armor?

[proud sable]

Wearing Molten Mora which is just Courage

[tired granite]

I was thinking the same thing leveling bromius ("where the funny numbers at?") but once you max it it works pretty well

[west crystal]

hey guys is the server down?

[keen river]

OH. bromius pact gives an extra 4 physical defense. that's where it's coming from, lol

[proud sable]

right on. Thanks for sussing that out!

[hexed flicker]

oh i didn't look at armor from totems. that makes sense

(i've just been using whatever weapons need levelling so hadn't dug into options too much)

[unborn grail]

cant believe how easy it was to install soulframe on linux, and i kept delaying it cause i thought it was gonna be a hassle x)

[keen river]

honestly once i finally get around to building a rig instead of just buying one, i hope to move to linux full-time

[unborn grail]

i just did mint cause i didnt want to ragequit and go back to slopdows. after a year i cant complain tbh, nearly everything is pretty straightforward

i learned today that any game that has their own installer works perfectly fine if you open the installer trough steam. so i unlocked soulframe before the actual steam release

[keen river]

i've used a few different distros, but the last time i tried it, gaming on linux was nowhere near as viable as it is now. (thanks, valve!)

[west crystal]

anyone know if server is down? i have prelude access but my client wont update...

[proud sable]

It's not down for me.

[keen river]

doesn't seem to be down. my launcher was able to check and confirm it's up-to-date

[keen river]

are you installing for the first time? check behind the launcher window--you need to pick a folder to install to

[west crystal]

this pops up when i launch the launcher

[keen river]

did you try
selecting a folder

[west crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-nope-the-simpsons-disappear-gif-8698577

[open sail]

Common error with this installer. You’re not the first lol

[willow moon]

I wish Grace would bump up AOE for abilities in general lol

Turns out, a lot of abilities don't actually scale with grace, or spirit for that matter. Wevetroot for example is locked at 8 seconds of holding time

[white igloo]

Well, hopefully the Virtue reworks helps

[shell smelt]

I've explained this game in super broad terms to someone from a world-building perspective as GoT meets classic Disney movie

[opal trail]

how many potions to rank up verminia?

[lament seal]

iirc it only took two, they do have to be unique potions though

[opal trail]

ah, just got it, needed to reload

[white igloo]

The max bond level for Vermina and Tuvalkane are 3, right?

[smoky crater]

Verminia's only 2

Tuvalkane 3

[worthy star]

unfortunately I didn't get the last Purity fragment needed

[lament seal]

any tips for finding history motes in Birdie's Bog?

[smoky crater]

mmmmmm...
run around in circles

[lament seal]

gods above I hate this motes system

[spring lance]

The lore notes does need work. I love collecting them when I see them to fill my journal up.

[unkempt coral]

How does the joinery work? i know it resets the weapon back to LVL 0 and adds some buffs, but is there any bonuses if i attune a weapon that has base courage with a joinery that has courage attunement?

[smoky crater]

only Blessed joineries reset the weapons lvl back to 0.
and yeah no bonuses from using a blessed by mora (courage) joinery on a weapon that already his attuned towards courage

[unkempt coral]

oh ok, are there variations of the blessed ones by stats? i have one that has a -50% parry stability cost and i dont really want to use that one

[indigo mantle]

How do I get unstuck

[unkempt coral]

type /unstuck in game chat

[limpid elm]

./unstuck

[indigo mantle]

chat wont open

[brazen sparrow]

...your pal is in dire need 😄

[smoky crater]

the "parry stability cost" is a positive stat even tho it is in red

[still owl]

does the livestream tomorrow mean the new update will drop? i keep hearing it will but nothing actually confirms it so far

[smoky crater]

update is not dropping tomorrow

[brazen sparrow]

As per the dev short, probably not.

[smoky crater]

early next week most likely

[limpid elm]

it is? 😮

[smoky crater]

they want to gather some feedback on the many new things and reworks they're showing on the devstream before launching the update

[smoky crater]

yes

[brazen sparrow]

yeah, you're reducing the cost as in how much stability you lose

[unkempt coral]

ohh for some reason i thought it added the cost , thank you

[smoky crater]

except... parries don't have a stability cost in the first place so it probably means blocking

[smoky crater]

it is negative 50% cost

[brazen sparrow]

of costing

[humble delta]

If I switch enclaves, do I lose my previous one's ranks and have to start again if I switch back?

[brazen sparrow]

nope, the rank and left over xp will be remembered

[humble delta]

Gotcha. Ty

[indigo mantle]

what is this glowy thing on the wall in the crypt?

[humble delta]

Kill the dungeon boss next to it for some lore and a talisman

3 in total. Repeat with each to build a cooler talisman.

[sullen meteor]

There are three in the dungeon, typically in the room that you fight circade. Lure him to one at each fight

[indigo mantle]

ohhh ok

[sullen meteor]

You'll get a totem for each kill. Wear the totem at the correct time in the overworld and he'll ambush you three times, so 3 in game days. You'll get a talisman to wear for one final circade kill and then you do a crystal puzzle.

[humble delta]

Oh yeah forgot about the overworld part

[smoky crater]

so apparently you can parry thru animations...

[humble flume]

What’s the max level rn? And is it hard to level up a lot at a time?

[sly escarp]

Weapon levels, pact levels, account level?

[smoky crater]

weapons and pacts, 30.
account, 17

[lethal tundra]

I played Soulframe morning before work.

I got quit q bit done.

I now have the Rune Alca's Breath.

I was not expecting it to cause targets to combust into golden flame and sometimes levitate as burn.

I also stared using a fly blade as my sidearm. The Skílter has made my life so much easier.

I'm after the Picktrix Rune next.

Though I wonder if flyblades are too good? Regular shortblades are going to need something extra to keep them relevant.

I also finished my map so once I complete The Waste Bear fable I'll be able to travel freely.

SF really needs random encounters and reoccurring public events. So that traveling is interesting and that we have a reason to go out of the way places.

Also Soulframe needs an Lfg system, the scolling live massage board is isn't it .

The one thing Bungie did better than Digital Extremes is LFG.

[lament seal]

regular shortblades have perfect throws which lets them serve as good backup damage, as well as The Flintsmoke for utility (invisibility)

[arctic cedar]

That's interesting cause I hate flyblades, they feel slow and I don't like the heavy attack. But shortblades feels very weak, like double blades are not making any damage to high level enemies 😭

[halcyon thicket]

@lethal tundra it's annoying to put lines after every sentence, a mod already told u not to do this

[lament seal]

the main thing flyblades are good for in the current meta is smite fishing, do a quick (uncharged) heavy to set them orbiting then swap back to your primary and pull smite to activate runes

[arctic cedar]

Indeed , that's why I don't like them. It's a wasted opportunity. I wish we didn't have sidearms, just choice to have 2 weapons, one ranged and one meele

[lament seal]

I don't personally see much of a problem in a secondary slot being good for utility

wristcasters and shortblade perfect throws already exist for damage in the slot

[smoky crater]

mmmmmm

shromp encountered

[lethal tundra]

@halcyon thicket

I chose readability.

@lament seal

Shortbalde aiming and timing of perft throw are. Tricky for me, though I do mean to get better with both. In a fight it's throw and hope to hit. I need and a bluetooth to HDMI. Having to look down at the Rog is messing with me and I like my Tv. @arctic cedar hating flyblades is interesting. I just like that they are easier to aim and orbiting blade is novel.

[lament seal]

oh my god your formatting is something else

[drifting cape]

that's not readability

[lament seal]

also if a mod did tell you that then #server-rules rule 1 applies

[smoky crater]

i would say it almost makes it harder to read. and you did get told off about it by a mod already yeah.
it also just... becomes an unnecessary text wall with the extra spacing

[halcyon thicket]

Especially on a phone

[drifting cape]

It's Kind Of Like When People Do This. It Just Makes It Harder.

[lament seal]

if you Ignore them then you have no text wall to worry about

[halcyon thicket]

Honestly never do that stuff

So the messages just don't appear right

[drifting cape]

i think a message pops up that they said soething but you need to interact with it to see what they said. afaik i never blocked anyone

[lament seal]

yeah, still a lot cleaner

[smoky crater]

blocking does the exact same. instead of "ignored" it just says "blocked" message

which i honestly don't understand.... if you blocked the person then there probably is a reason you don't want to see their messages and they shouldn't be shown even like that

[left wigeon]

I like soulframe

[lethal tundra]

@left wigeon

DE manges their properties very well.

[smoky crater]

really?

[left wigeon]

I like warfgame to

Vaub main 4 life

Until they make qorvex 2 at least

[lethal tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/failure-boo-simpsons-zero-gif-17012756229140509599

@smoky crater

Warframe's only real rival Destiny from Bungie.

Is faltering do to either malice or incompetence. I suspect a mix of both

Imagine creating what was potentially another Star Wars? Then running it into the ground?

[smoky crater]

no. what i meant by the "really" was that you're still continuing the constant spacing between sentences...

[lament seal]

Qorvex 2: Qor Harder
hopefully radiation will be improved by then lol

[tired sail]

It feels like they're trying to tack extra things onto radiation (and impact) instead of fixing the status effects.
Nyx can't even get her passive working in late game content because everything has overguard...

[smoky crater]

what if... a complete status effect rework...

[brazen sparrow]

electrifying

[glacial mortar]

hi

I need a key, guys.

Do you happen to have one to spare?

I want to play 😛

🙁

[tired sail]

Catch the stream tomorrow

[glacial mortar]

I know

but I can't wait

[drifting cape]

it's less than 24 hours. you can wait

[glacial mortar]

I can't, I want to play

[left wigeon]

Radiation is in a weird place but a good place

Methinks

[lament seal]

some people have been waiting months lol

[left wigeon]

Just need a bandaid arcane for primaries and melees and we're golden

Anyway

[glacial mortar]

FF XV took over 10 years to come out, but knowing that you can play it makes the feeling different

[tired sail]

I think we have enough bandaids on top of bandaids

[left wigeon]

Need to fight mendiking 28 times

[smoky crater]

you can definitely wait for 20.5 hours

[lament seal]

consider touching grass, it may be helpful

[left wigeon]

They should add uhh

[glacial mortar]

Do you work?

[left wigeon]

Boomerang

[lament seal]

did you graduate high school?

[brazen sparrow]

i mean.. the weapons you throw are already like recallable boomerangs.

[lament seal]

I hope returning weapons get changed to return at a slightly lower arc so they can more easily hit enemies on returning

I've only had luck hitting Mockeries with recall

[glacial mortar]

Dont cry

gordito

[lament seal]

you're really not doing very well at appealing to people with spare keys

[glacial mortar]

What do I care, if I wanted to I'd buy it

And here you are, answering me and paying attention to me like a dog

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-dance-dancing-gif-7131096

[lethal tundra]

@left wigeon You nught get lucky, took me around 10 tries to get Alca's breath.

I don't remember the exact number.

[tidal mulch]

guys is there any way to start over and create a new character?

[tired sail]

You would need to create a new account

If it's because you don't like your starting pact/weapon, the others are obtainable after some progession.

[lament seal]

is there something specific you're trying to do? character customization is upcoming if you want a new look, and if you want a new pact, then as Dyst says all of them are available

[tired sail]

They are also planning on expanding the character customization in P13, not sure if that includes changing your gender

[tidal mulch]

No it's just that I tried the game out like a year ago and then forgot about it and now have no clue what I'm meant to be doing

[lament seal]

generally just follow your bird if you're still early in the game, otherwise killing bosses and grinding faction tales (the 1, 2, and 3-star quests that appear on your compass every so often) for faction standing

[left wigeon]

Me want uhh

Sirin

Do agari give standing?

[sullen meteor]

How are you gonna beg for a code and then say if you wanted to, you'd buy it? Smells like some brokey activities. I got mine from a stranger (partners friend but idk them) because i'm NICE 🙂

[smoky crater]

nop. only tales

[left wigeon]

Dang

Oh yeah if I watch the stream can I get a code to give people

[tired sail]

Yup, it gives you a sharable code if you already had access. Check your profile page on soulframe.com and scroll down to drops to find the codes after they've been claimed.

[left wigeon]

Sick

[lament seal]

make sure your Twitch is linked before you watch

[smoky crater]

or before you claim at the very least

[languid escarp]

is the vadagar stag on a cooldown, or is it like once a night or something?

[lament path]

I believe all bosses should be on a 30 min cooldown currently, you can however still join other people who havent fought theirs yet thus the "shares"

[halcyon thicket]

Stags spawn once a night outside of faction tales

[hexed flicker]

Pretty sure it is once a night, though you sometimes can fight it again in 3 star sparrows tales

[languid escarp]

cheers guys, i saw an old brozime vid and he just kept respawning it but i guess that's been addressed

[drifting cape]

king is still bugged, he can be 3 hours

[lament path]

I thought they tried to fix that with the last two patches?

[drifting cape]

tried to

although.. its possible ive been gone longer than i thought and i wasn't around for their last fix. i dont think so though

[uneven spindle]

king is lazy

enough said

[polar dragon]

Which are the event weapons?

[lament seal]

The Maestro bow and the Rostrum shortblade

[polar dragon]

Maestro is a drop from bird enemies?

[lament seal]

both weapons are

[drifting cape]

you got.. 19 hours

i think

[polar dragon]

OOF

I've only got sword parts

[drifting cape]

event ends at the same time as the devstream starts. or thats what someone here said

but also, if you miss it, itll all come back

[lament seal]

Thawtide has been extended until the launch of preludes 13 so you have a few more days ( #envoy-gathering message )

[drifting cape]

ah, cool

[humble flume]

Wait really, when’d they say this? Gives me a bit more breathing room

[lament seal]

I linked my citation

[humble flume]

Oh sorry mb I glossed over that hella bad 😭

[tired sail]

Some time in the last 24h, yesterday when I checked it was still 2pm est

[long grove]

yeah probably gonna get announced tomorrow, i chanced on it

[humble flume]

Awesome, I figured playing straight till the morning tmo wouldn’t be so viable to grind for it lol

[long grove]

if you got Sirin, makes it real easy

[narrow zodiac]

is there a way to increase my fps other than turning my performance down?

I get 30fps with default settings

[languid escarp]

ouch

i used lossless scaling on my old lappy and it was decient but base fps was locked at 50

[final rock]

typically you either buy better hardware or turn down graphical settings

id prob start by seeing if upscaling looks decent enough

[languid escarp]

yeah this

if u can get near 50ish with upscaling frame gen becomes useable

[final rock]

if you care about latency or have a gpu w low VRAM FG might not be a good idea. would make the number go higher technically and make the image smoother.

[narrow zodiac]

I turned on fsr and now I get like 70fps on performance mode

[final rock]

if the image quality still looks fine to you then go ahead and use it

[languid escarp]

volumetric options usually give a chunk of performance if u turn em off too

not too much visual difference

[tired sail]

There is a noticeable visual difference to fog off vs low, some things don't look correct with fog off, mostly edges of objects overlapping with certain surfaces like the skybox.

[languid escarp]

maybe not on fsr 2 performace tho hehe

[granite jacinth]

i can't wait seriously, sad to think it might be delay but worth it

[unkempt mango]

think we'll be able to level up Tuvalkane past three in the future? and if so what are the chances the more we level her up the more she realizes shes worthy to be our blacksmith so i dont feel bad everytime i talk to her?

[nova nebula]

is this a beta?

[frigid spoke]

even worse, pre-alpha

[nova nebula]

im impressed if this is alpha

[frigid spoke]

#gameplay-discussion message

Long way to go still

[neat night]

The Mistgale - Longsword
The rune of the phantoms formed in mist. Pull Smite turns attacks into ranged projectiles dealing 150 damage.

is this a good rune? compare to everflame

[neat night]

(it' more polish than some new releasae AAA these days) (but yes, still pre-alpha)(Systems are not finalize yet, everything can be changed, and still a bunch of bugs)

This game release date will be a sight to behold xD

[nova nebula]

hey they can take as long as they have to. These are amazing devs

[neat night]

let em cook.

[west gulch]

is the combat in this game good

[nocturne plaza]

🤔 uhh it's slow paced... compared to warframe

also what is 'good combat' to you? there's the chaotic times when u pull more then a single group from time to time

[west gulch]

seems janky with no lock on system but hard to tell from videos

[nocturne plaza]

u have to aim ur block at someone for a seconds to 'lock' the attacks u do will genreally go towards the guy locked, unless your facing in another direction completly

and u do have to aim your attacks, if you 'look' too far from lock, ur not gonna hit the guy

'lock' don't screen lock you to the target, if that's what your looking for in lock

[west gulch]

yeah it didnt look like it ig ill just have to wait to try it

[red lake]

Melee combat in this game is somewhat like Dark Souls where you can parry/reposte enemies the only difference is you get grenade spammed at the same time lol

[nocturne plaza]

when u 'lock' u can see the guy's hp n levels. n change lock right away with block again, it's just not very 'accurate' in my eyes

[west gulch]

yeah cuz it seems like your mouse just moves the camera instead of your character

[nocturne plaza]

i just cancel right away n dodge out of the way, i get hit so many times before by those, I tend to lock a random melee guy infront of me then run after the archers then the nade throwing guys lol

the lock in this game is different from the usual lock, u find in other games, where they would lock your camera as well

it's just when u attack, your attacks will try to fly that direction of the lock guy as much as possible

[west gulch]

the archer and mage seem a lot smoother ig

[nocturne plaza]

the healing guys is pretty annoying too... can't kill a thing with them alive... #1 top target. lol

[neat night]

we need grenade

\ ( * . * ) /

[nocturne plaza]

my first weapon's a staff, right now i'm using a pole arm, the playstyle is extremely different. range stuff usually u can just kite them n slowly wither them away, but you can hardly do that with melee

[red lake]

melee can be smooth too but you tend to get staggered to oblivion when fighting a big group of enemies

[nocturne plaza]

I tend to disable a large group, if there's too many n go after the ones that didn't get CCed lol usually i'm able to kill off like 2-3 unarmored guys before the CC wears off, it depends on how you fight I guess, your playstyle?

I definatly died alot more using a melee weapon, compared to ranged

[red lake]

I play Tethren we have no CC lol skill 3 doesn’t count coz it wont knock down lv30+ enemies so i just tend to pull the enemies away from the archers then make a b line for them and stab them in the face

[nocturne plaza]

😆 well u can do kiting as usual, cept at melee range then... just spamming skills n smacking whoever runs up to you first lol, takes a while to kill them, but it works

yea.. range is like aim bot in this game... the archers can still hit u at a 80% rate if ur 'running'

so if u dun wanna die, you'll want to go after the archers first or hide behind stuff, in town i hide behind houses/walls then dash towards the archers

[west gulch]

yeah seems like itd be hard to hit who u want in a group

[nocturne plaza]

🤔 i don't have that problem.. since i don't excatly stay in a single spot when i fight, it doesn't matter if i'm useing a melee or range weapon, there's always a few who would be slower

[red lake]

Not really i don’t lock on so i can easily transition a swing

[nocturne plaza]

^ without lock... u basic swing till the guy drops, cause it doesn't show hp right?

[red lake]

yeah but i usually just wait for a parry then smack them until they die

[long grove]

lock on is auto tho, there's no choice on that

[nocturne plaza]

for me i mostly use heavy attacks, I picked up.. fast heavy swing? it's pretty quick, n useful if your not handling too many at once

[red lake]

not really if you dont block you dont lock on

[long grove]

block is easiest way to remove lock on, what

[red lake]

yeah hence why i dont block at all

until i need to of course

[nocturne plaza]

you don't... remove lock when u block... u just change ur lock target... lol

[west gulch]

just seems like an odd system compared to warframe even, maybe it feels better to play than watch

[nocturne plaza]

it only gets removed.. when u killed your lock target

[long grove]

holding block prevents the lock, and it removes it until you hit or get hit

[nocturne plaza]

🤔

[red lake]

You can engage enemies wthout locking if you dont block first

[nocturne plaza]

i only block to parry, guess i don't hold it long enough to 'unlock'

[red lake]

i know this because its become a habit now for me to wait for an incoming attack to parry

[long grove]

... no. you're locked as soon as you attack or get hit with a target in range

[nocturne plaza]

I mostly use dodge when my hits won't make it in time

[red lake]

this too dodge/parry is basically the essence of melee

[nocturne plaza]

🤨 i think your... thinking about a different kind of engament when a fight starts?

who here tanks.... ? xD like face tank stuff

[long grove]

bromius mains

[nocturne plaza]

i don't do that so i'm not sure how the group locking works

[long grove]

and it is their right too

there's no group lock, but you also don't need to block to shift targets. just aim your character in their direction via wasd to swap targets

[nocturne plaza]

i've done that plenty of times when using melee, i sure as hell didn't lock onto them, cause when i don't lock them i tend to miss cause i didn't properly face their model to hit

[long grove]

it can be finicky, it is a work in progress, but it mostly works

[red lake]

agree with the finicky bit

[long grove]

i'm very used to going back and forth between targets to keep em off balance

[nocturne plaza]

nah i don't think it works when u hit them, without using block to lock them

[long grove]

you'll get a handle on it trust

[nocturne plaza]

otherwuise i wouldn't be missing so many hits, when there's a whole batch chasing me

[west gulch]

hoping they change it ngl

[long grove]

hoping i can just toggle the autolock off

[west gulch]

normal lock on system would fix it all it seems

[nocturne plaza]

its not in the options?

[long grove]

one dayyyy

nope no option or keybind

[nocturne plaza]

i quite like the no camera lock, function for locking

[long grove]

that's why i use block/sprint to break locks, quickest ways

[west gulch]

reminds me of like god of war

[long grove]

yeah in all my soulsborne i've never used a camera or autolock so it keeps throwing me off

also lowkey annoying to be autolocked on a mockery when you're trying to pull smite one you just downed

[west gulch]

i could also just be biased i do love soulsborne

[nocturne plaza]

I pull them when their still alive.... xD

[red lake]

I actually like how the camera is atm, it allows me to check behind me to see if i’m about to get surrounded

[long grove]

yeah camera is great, just give me a lock toggle

[west gulch]

or even how warframe melee is where ur camera just moves your character

[nocturne plaza]

I run around too much... n have CC skills i doon't bother with getting surrounded.. I just CC them when they get too close together lol

[red lake]

Must be nice having CC, please DE give Tethren a reliable CC too

[nocturne plaza]

😂 i mean if u hit harder n have more life then others, why would need them? hahaha

[unreal roost]

Can anyone help me through farming orengall armor if Im not in the right faction?

[red lake]

Fair point having 640HP does allow for more mistakes haha

[nocturne plaza]

oh dang wow.. that's like more then double of my hit points, sitting at around 250+ hp +/- from membory lol

the spider boss.. spike skill, actually one shots me if it lands squarly on my charater xD

[red lake]

Yeah Tethren is the very definition of face tanking you enemies especially when you use the 2nd skill that reduces incoming damage by 50% i think

[nocturne plaza]

what the hell

[west gulch]

omg free money

[lament seal]

<@&1154466146741932193> scam bot

[red lake]

Cool i finally get to report a post

[west gulch]

elon such a real one for that

[nocturne plaza]

😔 whoever believes that is gonna their account emnptied

[west gulch]

if they believe that they lowkey deserve it

[nocturne plaza]

🤔 i dunno, maybe some kid that using their parents account? free money! i want! lol

it's pretty common

[west gulch]

kids having crypto accs would be crazy

[nocturne plaza]

if they want it, they'll make it happen, kids having more creative ways to get what they want then adult, is not uncommon, unfornatly

[west gulch]

its prob one of those ones where u send them like $100 and they say theyll send u $1000 back

ig but then the parents deserve it fr

[nocturne plaza]

🤣 n if the kid did it behind their parents back? only found out about it when it's too late? still the parent's fault?

[west gulch]

yes theres no shot id trust my kid with a crypto acc

and if they do its a good learning experience

[nocturne plaza]

if it's just some money that goes missing... that's still considered fortunate enough

[west gulch]

itd be different if they stole their card to buy v bucks or something it takes a lot more to set up a crypto acc

[nocturne plaza]

that's prob why you don't tell your kid the password.. or even write it on the card

😂 want to charge money, have to ask the parent for it

every single time....

[west gulch]

yeah that would def be the smart move

a lot of dumb parents tho

[indigo mantle]

How do I use these?

[neat night]

reforge

go to the blacksmith

in our nightfold, you should see a reforge option

[indigo mantle]

this perosn/?

[neat night]

yep

when reforging, you should have an option to select these

to put into the weapon

[fresh basalt]

Needs lvl2 blacksmith

[tired sail]

Requires a level 30 weapon

[nocturne plaza]

What's the fastest way to get fragments? Do arena work?

[tired sail]

*if it says blessed

[vagrant kayak]

Enclave Tales and killing Agari sub-bosses, the arena tile does not drop loot

[shell smelt]

Was thinking about this today, I would 100% purchase a Soulframe lore book if they make one. Easily some of the most intriguing narrative design I’ve seen

[analog peak]

Any ways to sell or use unwanted fragments?

[unreal roost]

wait when you change atunement you have to revel a weapon?

[full hearth]

Blessed Joinery will reset the weapon rank yes

[maiden kite]

hi, generally how hard is boss fights? is it any smigit as hard as say elden ring?

[unreal roost]

thank you

[full hearth]

If you want brutal bossfights that will take considerable amount of learning patterns to beat, there aren't any like that. Atleast for the time being.

How combat and bossfights evolve over time is anyone's guess, though.

[maiden kite]

ohh okay. since its been a couple preludes now . how many hours of content are there? or grinds?

[nocturne plaza]

Brutal boss fight? Just go fight bosses without armor would. E it? The bandages armor u get as default before u pick a race?

Also I only ever managed to find V. Stag once, they hard to located? I have already spent a few nights in searching for more

[maiden kite]

from what i can see. is this game similar to witcher 3? , where u just go open world do quests?but this game have more builds and unlocks?

[nocturne plaza]

I did not play Witcher 3 so I dunno about that game, to me it's more similar to WoW in terms of open world, u collect res. Do quest, hunt... Stuff

It's the usual... Kill/clear/pick up area quests that we are so familiar with, though I would look forward to other types of quests. Like king of hill, that they have in warframe

I do not look forward to escot quests though, unless the npc can run like players, just walking is so slow. Or if they walk, they do not stop n just keep walking lol

[maiden kite]

is there dungeon farms, boss farms. or incentives to do so to idk craft weapons, ulock new abilities

[nocturne plaza]

There are... What I would like to call mini DG, u just go in there n kill stuff loot n come out, there is no bosses at the end of these DG outside of story line, as far as I know

[maiden kite]

Witcher 3, skyrim, or ghost of tsuhima

[vagrant kayak]

Some dungeons have bosses in them

[nocturne plaza]

Yes I did not play those

[vagrant kayak]

Live service Witcher 3 is a pretty good description for Soulframe

[nocturne plaza]

Maybe you should name a few, I did run into wild bosses, but their all in the open world, not inside some DG

[full hearth]

Grind wise there are multiple Enclaves to progress the ranks in, a fair few weapons to craft and 8 Pacts to acquire (11 with Founder's)

In addition there are things like Totems and Runes

[maiden kite]

about pacts. i see there is 3 characters i can get access to in the shop and unlock the game with. does each character with each pact play differently? 3 * 8 i guess?

[nocturne plaza]

Pacts r like skills, but u need to craft them to use them lol only ur first one is fully crafted

[vagrant kayak]

Gourdo, Reaper, Sinecure Errant Vella... they're variants on the surface Agari, only in specific dungeons (for now)

[full hearth]

So the first things is, there is only one character, you. The pacts determine your ability set.

Each pact comes with 3 abilities and 2 passives, alongside a bit generic upgrade tree

[maiden kite]

wait how about the Wylds. like i saw mage, ranger and brawler

[full hearth]

They are also Pacts

[maiden kite]

wait w

[vagrant kayak]

Are you familiar at all with Warframe?

[full hearth]

Wyld Sirin and Sirin play the same - Wyld Sirin offers larger base Virtue increase and has different skill visuals

[maiden kite]

sorta, i think i played for 4h 😭. so the frames?

[full hearth]

Pacts can be thought of as frames yes

[vagrant kayak]

Wylds are the same as Warframe's Primes, slightly better/fancier versions of Pacts

[full hearth]

Wyld Pacts can be thought of as Prime Frames

[maiden kite]

so if u purchase access through one of the Wylds (mage, ranger, brawler). u can then later on unlock 8 other pacts. but u cannot unlock the 2 other prime frames u missed out on? or u can also unlock them

[full hearth]

You can unlock everything, eventually. Wylds are not earnable yet but will be once the system for it is in place.

You can access all three Wylds by buying a Paragon Pack at the moment

[vagrant kayak]

Right now when you start the game you get a choice between three starter Pacts, Sirin, Oscelda and Tethren (rogue, mage, fighter) there's also the 3 Founder Wyld Pacts, which are (for now) exclusive to the Founder Pacts but will be farmable in future

[full hearth]

One exception would be the Flowers in the Founder Bundles, but they do not contribute towards anything really. And technically The Paragon Greatsword, too. But it can be obtained later from another Envoy that owns it.

[maiden kite]

Wyld and normal sirin/oscelda/thethren are different?

[full hearth]

The skills are the same, skill visuals are different.

The virtue benefit innate to the pacts is higher for Wyld than Base

[vagrant kayak]

Slighty, they have the same abilities but the Wyld version has a slightly bigger stat boost, also if you level both the base and Wyld version you'll get more points to invest in skills

[maiden kite]

ohhhhh. so i am guessing if u get access via keys/invites u get the normal one. otherwise u need to get one of the wyld version to play

[vagrant kayak]

Maxxing out base Tethren gets you 30 points, maxxing out Wyld Tethren gets you another 30 for a combined 60

[full hearth]

Yes you begin the game by choosing one of the three

Regardless of whether you bought your way in or not

[vagrant kayak]

You get the base versions regardless of Founder pack, so if you buy a pack you'll have 2 Pacts to start with, a Wyld and a base

Which can be different depending on your choice in the tutorial

[maiden kite]

ohh okay make sense

[vagrant kayak]

Very quick summary:

8 base Pacts earnable in-game
3 of those have Wyld versions, buyable through Founders
Those Wyld versions will be available F2P in future

[maiden kite]

does each pact have abilities u continually unlock? or is it like warframe where its a set of skill for each frame only.

[full hearth]

It's a set of skills you unlock

Much like in Warframe

[vagrant kayak]

3 abilities you unlock through levelling, 2 passives you can invest points to get

All unique to that Pact

[full hearth]

Of course this is how it is now - How it will be in the future is anyone's guess

[maiden kite]

so its really alot like warframe meets witcher 3

i was kinda hoping for more build customization per pact (like each pact have dif playstyle u could try ) and generally when there is alot to build on one character . and class switch is if u wanna try dif things. yk like last epoch skill customization and stuff

[vagrant kayak]

There's definitely some buildcraft you can get into per Pact, using compatible weapons and Runes (ult system tied to weapons) also I suspect Pacts will get more depth eventually, most of the nodes you can invest in on Pacts are fairly generic at the moment

Might get more info in the devstream today

[maiden kite]

i ma check that out when it comes, but anyways thank you guys for answering my ques

[full hearth]

Still early days on that front, expect things to change as Preludes go by. Do check back in every now and then if you feel like it.

[tropic charm]

i may or may not have not played at all for the past month or so, what's the best way to do the event in 1 day?

[tired granite]

Go north east run around killing the dudes, go to feeder, press f, then walk away and then walk back and you should be able to interact again without needing to craft a seeder.... then a lot of grinding that

[tropic charm]

alright ty

[glacial mortar]

I don't remember asking you

Oh, what a shame, darling. I've got it now. Thank you so much for your concern and for trying to act cool when you can't 🙂

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[radiant girder]

Hello how do I equip garden crown of grace

I just beat the first boss

[neat night]

you will have to craft it first I think

[radiant girder]

I'm new I don't understand anything 😭

[neat night]

It's ok

*pat pat

[radiant girder]

I want some better armor

[neat night]

have you unlocked the blacksmith yet ?

there should be a quest to do that.

[radiant girder]

I chose archer can I not change it now

[neat night]

you will be able to do that later on dont worry

now, if you haven't, find the way to unlock blacksmith first

[sturdy nova]

I highly recommend watching** SaraLovesArchery** on YT, she make some really good videos on Soulframe

[vital dagger]

guys. can the stream from tonight drop the game?

[vagrant kayak]

@lament seal@glacial mortar@sullen meteor@frozen jacinth Please keep our rules in mind Envoys, there's no need to be rude and there's especially no need to belittle people who can't/won't purchase a Founder pack

[vagrant kayak]

It will yes details here: #soulframe-news

[granite jacinth]

GREAT community

[tropic charm]

i dont think it's ban worthy unless a mod tells u to stop but u continue

[vagrant kayak]

Please don't discuss server moderation here (as per rule 6 in #server-rules ) if you have questions or issues regarding moderation you can file a ticket using #discord-mod-mail

[nocturne plaza]

i dunno what's going on, but i personally got a my code from a friend, who wanted me to play with them, but still teasing someone without a code like that is really, bad. Trying to show off, with something like a Code, Grow up. x)

[tropic charm]

while i do agree, at the same time you can just generate a code for yourself for free today by watching the devstream, so asking for an existing code is making it so that someone else who doesn't have the same luxury loses their chance

[neat night]

ok chill guys

[vagrant kayak]

Anyone who already has access will get another code to give away by watching so not really, we ask people not to ask for codes to reduce spam and begging but it's not something to mock someone for doing

[neat night]

it already passed

let bygone be bygone xD chill~ let talk other things

[nocturne plaza]

I was out for almost the entire day today, if i didn't already have one, i wouldn't have a code, simply cause I'm not free today to watch the stream.

About asking for another Code, it could be for another, so i personally won't say it's that bad, the bad thing is that saying you got one but is waving it in front of someone that wanted one. that is a bad behaviors by itself, and if ur requesting codes, when you don't need it, that is just being greedy! D:<

Personal if among my friend group wanted to play the game, n didn't have a code, I'll try to get them one. but that's just me though.