#the-tavern
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What happened?
read the words and find out
Which ones
hey man you cope however you have to
What happened?
you lose
Dang
a lot
you lose a guy through a portal, you lose in stating facts, you lose in saying it's old news when it's new
Did you just get here?
what do you think
I guess you did
you lose again
Welcome to dark and darker, its a good game!
MAN ITS SAD HOW DEAD THIS GAME IS THESE DAYS
Ive actually been getting about 5 people per round. A few weeks ago it was 1 or 2
I havnt played in months tbh just got on cause I was bored and saw less than 5 k playing :(\
I remember when this game TOOK OVER by storm
Oh yeah, game is dying. But low key next wipe should be good if the new perks and stuff allow for good new builds
Otherwise it'll suck even more and more people will leave
whens wipe?
29th I believe
suppose to be the 29th but we havent heard anything from the devs so dont get your hope up
Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
They would have to ban the remaining 2k active players then lmfao
Surely it'll be on time
Expect a 6-12 hour downtime like usual xD
Werent they actually on time last wipe a few wipes ago?
yeah but we might just have another semi wipe
12-24***

do it
btw, anyone saying "they have to ban everyone then" is admitting to cheating. investigate
When will we get info on wipe?
Updated the ban notification popup so that player nicknames are displayed anonymously. @proud copper @hexed adder for what reason are we giving the cheaters/bad actors anonymity? And don't say for "Player privacy" other games give us their full in-game name upon a successful report. This also allows you, Iron Mace, to act in bad faith and show us fake popup messages, which means you can punish less players than you're currently punishing (which is almost none) And we the player wouldn't even know it.
Revert this, start handing out harsher bans to the bad actors, you are helping them put the final nail in your own games coffin. Start banning for RMT or officially allow RMT.
Remove mobs from Arena, Remove the Circle, and Promote the current CEO to Player. I've spent over 1,000 hours of my gameplay hunting & reporting cheaters, I've had over 1,000 unique temporary/permanent/seasonal bans. Free of charge, your Anti-cheat team is hopeless. The Anti-Cheat itself is so bad in fact, that if you play too well in the dungeon you will get falsely banned due to bad parameters. (I am not banned, never have been I am not writing this message out of bad faith or spite) I am writing it as it needs to be said. Ban me from the discord if you must. But I'm not going to sit here anymore praising the higher ups of this company, if all they do is treat us like their personal test guinea pigs, AND WE THE PLAYERS, PAY THEM TO BE THEIR PERSONAL GUINE PIGS
Also why are we giving teamers who purposely pre-team to break the group limit for an advantage, a million temporary bans and not removing them from the game? You state in your own High roller game rules "Friendly encounters are PROHIBITED. ALL TEAMING is a bannable offence in High-Roller Dungeons. So either remove this rule, or actually enforce it. temporarily 3-7 day bans is nothing when they log on their second or third epic game account to avoid any disruption and get right back to it!
Have a great day.
If it's due to "Personal Information Protection Act 2023" how can other game companies display this information?
as much as i love to point out the flaws in the decision making capabilites of Squirrelbrain Druid Fan and his gang, they had to hide part of the names becasue of Korean law
It's something that companies who operate out of south korea have to comply with
SK law
I think he said also that if they didn't have to do it bc of the law, they wouldn't have changed it
can anyone name another game that hides the names of cheaters? if the concern is protecting the privacy of users, and their username is personally idenfifiable information, why are usernames displayed at all? 
ok what now? 💀 this is some goober shit fr
nah kim youre good, if this true, then everything you say about Squirrelbrain is valid
In b4 sdf cheats
rmt means your ecosystem is healthy
it also means you have a cheater problem
you'll never solve it


SDF genuine thought
investigate this person's account


🤣


yeah that's funny, you don't know how the world actually works. you can want things, but you won't get them
cheaters cant help but snitch on themselves


is that a cope for them existing
connection to servers terminated in arena x.x
I'm no lawyer, nor do I know of any SK law, however my extended google search states that "Public Bans and 'Shaming': Game developers in Korea often publish lists of banned accounts (nicknames) to deter cheating. This is generally considered permissible as it is part of maintaining the integrity of the service and upholding the Terms of Service (ToS) that players agree to, which often include clauses about cheating and publicizing sanctions." I'm pretty sure even with the 2023 law that they are allowed to do this if their ToS states it, and if it doesn't state it, they can update it.


i dont think their is good RMT economy tho. who would buy anything?


thres like 2k players


When will we get info on the wipe?


no
nobody knows
When do we usually get info on wipe* how about that?
while the patch is being applied to the servers on wipe day
3 days ago. how bout that?
they might start teasing more info a bit leading up to wipe
water map was teased for like an entire wipe before wipe day
Yeah, the complete silence is a little concerning
But we'll see. Maybe they're just wanting to surprise everyone with a banger season.
remove 2200 solo only tired of having to queue snipe my friends lol. i'd like to see actual arena streamers fight each other
I just played dark for like 2 or 3 hours and had fun! For those in norms, definitely save up a little and run a kit. Its way better than just squire!
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yo so question rq: why do everytime i launch the game my settings are reset (DLSS turns back on and i have to turn off deathcam or else i lag)
anyone else, anyone knows a fix?
is the game good right now, im a long time veteran who hasnt played in about 2 years
come back after wipe
damn same treatment as makoa huh
bet, ill just try the game out and wait til wipe to get into it
yap
hey bud, go do somethin
Game is fun so much stuff have been added you should try it out
take your own advice
askin an honest question
like play the game and find out
bet that, ill give it an hour or 2 here
wasn't good enough for you to play for the past 2 years
If you have nvidia app check if its auto optimizing your game settings
same goes with you, ' is the game good ' , log in and find out - if you can even find a match
is there a player count to check
all these people agree that it isn't good which is why they aren't logged in and why you can't find matches
i used to absolutely love this game
so its still bad
🤓
games been trash for so long sorry bud
player count is very low to many stuff people complain about and ironmace is just ingoring it, like naked druids and rogues completely ruining HR, my advice is stay away from HR and take your time in PVE mode to learn how to fight the mobs
Barf pong
whats the best classes rn?
Not pengu
for solos druid rogue barb and fighter are very good
are there duos
yes but the classes strength completely change when you play in a team or not
sorry bud what? who do you think you're convincing
i'm sorry that the game has been trash for so long and is still trash yet you're about to log in ?
crusty game
yea just wanna test it for myself
this game during peak was one of my favcorites of all time\

Not true
If you truly love someone you love them today and tomorrow no matter their flaws
thank you ill check it out
When is the wipe
Hey bro, I get your point, but please keep the Dooming to a minimum. There are plenty of people here who enjoy the game.
ok i'll use another account

@lethal oar yo have you ever considered not being an absolute chud?
Anyway, the wipe is coming soon, and we'll talk again then.
Guys, What do you think the abilities of the new Ifrit skin will be? I'm guessing this skin will be intentionally powerless, like Krampus
the end of dnd is colose this is last patch :))
🤣 🤣 true 😢
GS LIMIT/ FOG AND I COME BACK ON GAME :))
This is just the beginning. Now it gets real good!
frok 65k players on to 2k is hard
Two thousand strong soldiers still here! That's a W!
i wonder how dungeonborne is doing
I was gonna play it way back when, but never got around to it lol
That's all good man you can probably try out Starsiege deadzone
im newer to the game, wanna learn stuff, ive been playing casual since season 2, but wanna learn actual tech and shit and wanna get better, i wanna play scorcerer but everyone in there says its not worth it and dont so what class
Play a fighter learn to use sword and shield learn how the blocking works then move on
i have full longsword fighter learned
hate playing slayer
i have basic knowledge just wanna learn more ig
i think all the sorc players doctor strange portaled into playing another game or something
huh
i eated them all
spit them back out i need smn to teach me man
if a sorc player told you its not worth its prob just a jaded vet
you been asking in sorc chat?
Yeah class chats are very helpful lol, definitely not clique based social dynamics in there
maybe trying a knight, there's the hall of knights server
its so bad man, i just want a good convo and smn to maybe tell me some nice tips or teach me
knights are useless asw unless its about teaching base game
Try the sword and shield
Yeah I feel ya, I hope you find some actual helpful peeps I'm sure they exist just gotta get lucky with the timing when you ask i guess
ya except i bet those helpful peeps play on weekdays as in which i cannot
aren't *
Your sarcasm meter is broken it seems
You tried the longsword but the longsword doesn’t give you an experience of how the shields work , vs using the shield when you go against it you’ll know better how it works
i ran full cleric buckler
So what do you feel about the shield
yeah i don't care, you were corrected. get over it
its ncie
The heater is bigger blocks more what about the bows
bro.. this aint a good look for you
which is funny because you act the same as the people you're talking about
i prefer long bow ngl, but if i had to choose recurve or survival its a hard decision, and i dont like heater i cant see shit
whiney af
😭 what are you on about bro
What are you feeling like doing ask some questions so I can help been here since the beginning
You like the sorc but people said it suxk is that what I was reading ?
ummmmmm, honestly i wanna learn spellcasters, ion like cleric, but im down to learn wizard, warlock or scorc, btu dont have much people to help me
take the spells that sound smart and que up it's as simple as that
i know warlock chat still has some chill helpful people in the middle of all the shitposters
ina way ya, just said it sucks and dont play it at all but i know its combos can be insane
a good variety of playstyles too
and it has longsword lol
They all have a different play style , would you rather do a lot of damage with fireball and stuff or would you like to curse someone and run away while they take dmg?
that is a massive plus
queue*
whoops, said smth i cant mb, um i dont wanna be other word for cat
so if warlocks meta is still curse and run then warlock is out of question
That’s the base of it you can hit harder throw armor on if you want but yeah I’d say try wizard it’s gonna be hard tho cuz of rogue and archer 2 tapping you
Nah that is the meta for noobs who want to play warlock basically, a giga crutch
Do you know what the stats do ?
bro dont go wizard solo, you gonna have a bad time in squire. thanks
tf am i sposed to do bro im getting mixed reactions as always T-T
Bad times doesn’t mean you don’t learn which is what he wants to do .
torture mastery is a little like that if you kit badly, curse and run, but all the prevailing playstyles that longterm players play often dont involve TM at all
ok so i know what most stats do yes, and if i dont i can hover over it
solo do fighter cleric barb rogue, that's it if you duo trio you can try range
Don’t run him away from a class because it’s harder if he wants to get better.
While still being spellcasting based of course
There are many utility options with warlock in regard to spells and it can really change up your playstyle
i know how hard wizard is solo, idfc if i can learn how to do it solo ill be a god in trio bc i can hold my own
also is filidian good race for wiz
So out of what you heard how do you feel what do you think you are leaning towards?
i don't need to add on two extra letters , eat shit
yeah i don't care, you were corrected. get over it
i wanna learn wizard, i feel learning a single spell spellcaster then moving to scorc is probs smarter so i can get a basic feel
in the same way you misspelled aren't
I think that would be good. Don’t confuse that for easy though of course it’s gonna be hard but you will kill peope when you get better
The point is trying and getting better
yep
If you seriously didn't understand that said that I said what I said purposefully out of irony, that is your problem to deal with.
gg
you lose, i win, get corrected gg
you gonna lose like 90% of the times as solo wizard squire vs a barb, you can try getting better but you gotta fight thru frustration
Now if you like longsword and you not liking wizard shoot go try the class that you want to . It seems like sorc is calling you but you are letting peoples opinion stop you from greatness
It will make him better though
well its not that, i need help for squire and what to run, especially being such a low level, im not really letting them get to me about scorc "sucking" just more or less cant really figure shit out myself bc im dumb
ive hit champ on siege many times, pc and console, i have over 12k hours on rust, both console and pc
i can handle some extraction game
So do you need help on what gear to run in squire ?is that what you are asking?
essentially ya, and also what perks to run as i level up, i have a certain build im going off of and for, but itll take time for me to get there
perfect boss best of luck, remember, it's a rock paper scissors game, so no matter how good you are, there is always a counter
thats the best part, you can do your best to counter your counter
Knowledge makes you cast faster so that is a good one anything with that on , will makes you do more damage with your spells so essentially both would help you . Keep in mind that move speed matters so don’t put anything on that has too much move speed penalty or classes like fighter will catch you
i cant send ss ofc bro i was gon send ss of my squire for scorc
Now meta has changed for sorc , so if you want to try how the class was intended (to merge spells) use spell
Merge
@low rune if no one is helping you , you can ping me and I’ll try my best to help you.
I seen the screenshot
ty for the help and time youve already given, even just the tad its been is still better then the help i got from that god forsaken class chat
Show me what gear you can put on with the squire real quick
idk if you know red, but he a ytber and streamer and i saw his build and its really good
ur good
OK
So for his build he has resourc which allows cooldowns to be reduced
its bc of the perk he runs it doubles cd
For squire thats no good
exaclty, i dont have the perk yet
Do you want to run faster or cast spells faster and more powerfully
faster and powerfull
why the spell book? am i not gon merge at first
Well you jsut need to put your spellbook away and pull your hands out you can still keep the spell book ,
touche
For perks
i can only run one rn
spell merge
ok and what abt as i level up
Air mastery is good it allows your knockbacks to do more dmg and push people back farther
ok
Spell sculpting is good if you cant hit your target its makes your spells bigger
Mana flow will allows you to accumulate more damage as you use your spells
ok, mb if i dont respond im doin 2 things rn im tryna fix a problem with rust but i am reading every message and am very grateful for the help
check screenshot for spells
nvm i can post gonna dm you
Try those out and lmk what ya think
i like cheese
server down?
lmao i just rando queued with a russian man and a child they were so bad and he was screaming like super mad at the kid
i said ❤️ they said no
jumped back in game after few month break.account is empty and disconnects me when im trying to create one...wtf happened here
"Q&A sometime soon" - Jan 6th
By the way, everyone remember the Q&A last year where they said they would answer every question? And people asked lots of very good questions, they answered only several and moved on...
Why is it so hard to spend a bit of time to communicate? 🤔 It's almost like they didn't care about the community
That got canceled
What, specifically?
the QnA
Which one?
I mention 2 QnA in my message 🙃
the one that obviously just passed and didn't happen not the one that did happen you shouldn't have to ask
This guy gets it
They mentioned nothing about it since then, how do you know? Or just random opinion
Idk i heard it from someone somewhere, idc enough to see if it was true or not but since one hasn't happened i assume its true
Ok, thanks for nothing I guess, have a nice day
could say the same about your comments
Well you're asking these questions knowing damn well they won't answer lol
thanks for nothing
see look i can do it too
Thanks, guys, for reminding me there is little to no value in discussing things in this channel.
yes taking a piss is what this place is for
So serious lol
Hello people (: i wasnt around since a while, do someone know how i could transfert my account on steam ?
yo can we let squire give mag prot pots pls
no wioe
Where’s the fishing mini game….

2578 online : 2578 in-lobby : 2570 chinese rmt farmers in dungeon
change the run and runner meta we might get ppl back
solos would rather run and try to save their kit than turn and try to outskill the opponent
omg .... can i find an arena plz
Solos issue only btw
Remove solos insta fixed, maybe ur onto something
The last time they removed solos and duos it murdered the playerbase what are we saying
Solos will forever have issues in any online game you play
This is because gear is hard to get, and dungeon recovery was a good thing for the game idk why they removed it
90% of players don't take 1v1s they just camp and wait for you to fight and then jump on you its annoying
holy shit, you can play monk on test server right now
they're finally using test server
❤️ 
but gear isn’t actually hard to get it just takes a small bit of smart farming (which ppl are allergic to for some reason)
fart farming
are you using epic? no way for that anymore
gear is hard to get
= Adventure mode
maybe it isn't hard, but it would be much better to play as a naked druid and wait for players to fight and take their loot
there's no other reason why all of us see alot of squire players in HR?
“I like playing rags to riches!!” smh my head
we should have gear limit in HR just like before
you're right
bring in 3 epic war mauls
estrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
cant wait for new druid buff next season
they are defending the cheaters at this point, why are they hiding their names when they get banned? its so dumb
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honestly a crazy thing that exists
I don't get it either
lol how are you trial warden but are lost on public info 💀
that actually made me laugh i'm not even sorry yo what
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ty did't saw that
guys is there any way to fix my freezes?
KEEP ARENA OPEN THROUGH THE WEEK THIS LAST TIME @proud copper
buff pengu
what other south korean games are also hiding cheater names to comply with this 2023 law?
what law? curious what made you guys have to do that
The Personal Information Protection Act
Games based out of South Korea have to comply with this
personal information protection act 2023 is what I keep seeing but I'm curious how a username can be considered personally identifiable information but ONLY for cheaters. so weird
seems uncharictaristic of south korean law. aren't they usually strict af on cheaters?
🐟
why don’t you google it
if you get banned then what your name is doesn't matter, you have no right 😉
💤
🧀
my beloved <@&988703997378584596>
#dnd-memes-only message
goodnight fishu sleep well
Make wizard great again
legit one of the best classes in game rn btw
Its so bad don't tell me lies
might be the player then dude wiz is really good
Might be the player 😢
wiz strong solo u need to go bonk and trios u can fire awya
especially in arena
how is it that pros can make wizard strong in solos but others can't
Its from Satan
preach
Monk is so op, plz tell me they aren't gonna just release it on the live server like this
Monk is really good. Make wizard good again
Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
why u always in gathering hall
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❤️ 
the gathering hall is for gathering. a better question would be why is nobody else in there with me?
wipe is the 29th
go play minecraft for 2 weeks, and you'll be back for - maybe - more content
i played a minecraft session for 2 weeks from 1st jan already, what to do now
try vintage story.
cry for wipe time?
or pick a popular book to read. maybe fantasy one. You can try Wingfeather saga.
watching stiens gate kinda dope
anyway.. I got a message for Ironmace.
Ironmace...
I'm watching you... Don't make another disappointment nor delay..
Otherwise, Ima crash out really hard! Like throwing a glass of peanut butter jar to the floor.

Ironmace...
I'm watching you... Don't make another disappointment nor delay..
Otherwise, Ima crash out really hard! Like throwing a glass of peanut butter jar to the floor.

I've been reading up on Mistfal Hunter dev posts, they stole DaDs goldsmith mechanic 
this game is still alive?
does that means we are running out of ideas but to borrow ideas from somewhere and innovate?
its geniunely insane that theyre not communicating with the playerbase right now, game is literally dead and theyre still trying to hide what theyre gonna do
real.
tbh that's how Blizzard got bit back in the day, they kept stealing working ideas from other games, refining them and putting them into theirs up until they came with real money auction house, then it went downhill
real.
I need to see what they are working on. I'm done with surprised but ended up disappointed too often.
@sdf you better leak something
Ah i see.
@hexed adder why are you guys still not talking to the players
graysun is for pray not for communicate
guess we have to wait for the shitty QnA hosted by onepeg who doenst even know anything about the game and leeches for money
learning from a dying game doesn't sound too smart
but why mr monkey throw nothing out other than
🌋
what games do you find successful?
OnePeg has literally played this game since day 1. What are you talking about
right now? arc raiders
that dying game is still most innovative and complex within the genre
which makes Arc Raiders "most innovative gameplay" steam award hilarious, given how its the most generic TPP shooter there is
he plays normals and dies almost in 95% of his games, he is a garbage player with no skill or proper knowledge on game mechanics or how they work
Thats just a straight up lie
ah I see, but people are starting to complain like old times in DaD discord. cheaters, trigger nades, bugs, etc. Will it end up like DaD's fate?
played ninja gaiden 4, I regret buying it
entire game is half cooked
yeah, that's pretty delusional statement
you think onepeg has geniune knowledge on how the HR gameplay works? have you seen his commentary on the tournament?
I miss Jay..
load up twitch
time to watch esp mlg seoul dark and darker world finals
o hell yeah all my favorite players are in this match
pillars of the community sobadstrange and onepeg are casting
lets go some of the best to ever do it, top tier game knowledge on the mics
the map is four square
o hell yes one of the iconic OG modules lets go
both teams are the same comp
ranger wizard cleric
both teams are camping the levers on each side of the gate
someone tries to interact with the lever for 0.17 frames
instantly vaporized by zap longbow locust
the crowd goes wild
onepeg comms "barb op"
shoutout to @trim knoll
ive seen him for years. the guy def knows this game
knows how to suck
well you havent seen enough
i swear. you children on discord are absurd
I dunno, I can't see the future. But it's also not easy to have such a drastic fall like DaD without SDF in your company.
LOL
being a piece of shit is cool
whoa whoa, lets not criticize people. except criticize the game. people have feelings you know?
Entirety of information about this wipe summarized: the floor is getting hot
true
more than enough info, go wait for a dead games wipe for a whole month with no more info

you mean arena tournament?
I don't care much for it, its detached from dungeon experience with situations that literally never have a chance of occuring in actual dungeon, arena to me isn't an indicator of anything
next wipe start is probably going to have around 10-12K players, lowest its ever been
you're a funny guy for trying to say this
cant criticize the game anymore gg
it's alright he was unwilling to enforce anything after the other guy said he's a ban evader
sigh.. I wish there is a solution for this game. what would it be...
I like the metaphorical meaning of this, given how it actually gets hot under sdf's own ass due to how stagnant dungeon experience became
arena is very much a representative of how the real game works
ranged damage has been stupidly powerful with no downsides since day one, and they are still not doing anything about it
he is busy doing fuck all for the game
<@&988703997378584596> what even is this? lol

@latent iron #the-tavern message
watch out youlongshu and ruhene333 are teaming in HR crypts, ive come across them multiple games in a row
it's called facts
kill them
In real dungeon you aren't confined to a singular room you can't escape with super fast circle closing and dealing massive damage, if a room isn't fit for your comp, you can move to another room and bait opponents, or have them leave you, how is that viable in arena?
oh and reckless plays are also encouraged, because you're not losing anything
welp... that sounds not a good sign of this game..
im in budget gear and they are in bis lol
just believe yourself and you'll do it trust
alright next time i see them ill get em
Panderz the goat
cant handle the truth )=
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I've killed legos wearing squire, you got it
The downside is that you melt in melee combat instantly.
Also arena is pretty melee dominated with current modules, it really doesn't reflect how the game plays when you aren't forced to fight in one single module
please move on from the topic, this isnt the place for that type of discussion.
whos ready for them to not adress all the balance issues and add no meaningful content in season 8 and kill the game compeletly!!! because i am
I didnt start it some other guy said smth about IDF tatoos
hmmm 🤔 he does have them though? dont understand how thats an insult or anything
This isnt about who started it... Move on.

season 8? and still early access? geez... im starting to hate playing early access in this era...
honey
first thing they should do is remove druid and ruins map from the game
two wrongs dont make a right. if theres other people doing things wrong, we'll take care of it.
🍯
mm honey in tea
It's still gonna be EA when they shut down servers
make it crypts > inferno and remove ruins
WHAT
Paladin and monk will be added in season 8, trust me guys
ITS GOOD OK
whered u get it...
agreed
the bees gave it to us. they are so very nice
monk is gonna be another badly designed stupid class that breaks the game and doesnt fit the genre at all
you didnt remove his message which is cleary insulting. I wouldnt have commented if it was removed
Hi im comming back to play rn i was top 30 in seasson 1 how is the sate of the game rn?
for dream, yes. but in reality... monk will postponed to season 9, and paladin is.. 13-ish.
I wish graysun would tell us when tavern table talk
boohooo, grow up

when the mods tell you don't after you already did you know you're in the right
its meaningless slop
Monk will be able to fly with their chi.
I am just sayn...
nah it is not slop
Mods, what part are you excited about season 8?
surely lol
they are excited about wipe
double standards and shiiii
do you know what is new in season 8 ?
riiiiight
Im super excited for ||REDACTED||

I hope they add 3 new classes at once that would bring back the 30k
You have to keep in mind, we're chatting in chat - and having to scroll up and read all these messages, it takes time - be patient, or feel free to tag wardens to specific messages, or put in a ticket.
you mean to tell me that a ranger shooting bluetooth bardiches from 45 meters with absolutely no counterplay or downside is balanced??? riiiight
don't have to keep in mind nothing
definitely the ||feeling of a fresh start||
ranged damage will always be the king as long as its possible to build 330ms kits without having to sacrifice literally every other stat

A paid-access guild hall, let's go
i liked watching bees in university lesson
you aint even looking at the chat until you're summoned crawl back under the rock
movespeed isnt the problem, its the DPS that ranged damage can do without any downsides
get a load of this n
truly spoken like someone who has never played a ranged class in this game for more than 30 min in norms
Im looking forward to season 8 to play what I'm calling "off the grid solo self found". No quests (and therefor no crafted items except utility like lockpicks and balls). No gamba/bought gear from vendors (only consumes and gold storage). No reward coins. No marketplace/trade post.
they firstly need to remove true damage, nuke ranged damage to the ground and promote all classes to focus more on melee
ranged damage should only be chip damage, not the main source of damage for these classes
by the end of season 8 I'll be in lab crafted self found bis
im sooooo glad this isnt happening man
hi goodmorning everyone. would anyone be interested in an epic leviathan 🤨
thats.. gonna put ranger class to death. ._.
unless ranger can have a perk for true dmg or something.
all good. I dont care that much ^^
only if they dont promote the class to play melee by giving it more options and abilites
so a purple warmaul
hm i see
im not saying to nerf ranged damage without buffing melee for the ranged classes
ah
no im just calling it epic
Nerf buff nerf buff
it’s the artifact ..
melee wizard is one of the strongest melee classes in the game currently, being able to have both ranged and insane melee damage while being tanky
Fish and fisher
so make the game less fun for everyone who plays ranged classes, surely this will bring more players back
you are not forced to run in a straight line across open module to get to a ranged class, its arena only problem, because again, arena is completely detached experience that has nothing to do with dungeon and problems you can overcome by just moving to better suited module can't be applied to arena and its open modules favoring ranged meta

how come melee buffball beats every range comp all day each day all month
lemme hold dat
Holy carp there’s actually people in here chatting
surely i can win against a 330 surv bow ranger in the real dungeon on my shitty fighter or barb class right
ranger is fine class
what’s ur offer ? I’m willing to sell it good price, I want it off my hands quickly
it doesnt
1 gold coin bag
buffball isnt even good?
oh so after all it is a 330ms problem, eh?
30% that, 70% ranged damage problem
you literally have breakthrough you have achilise and you have acceralndo. Combine that with healer class and you not killable
if you can aim with ur crossbow you might win yes
Games not even good, still no fishable fish
I like purge shots.
Bro I swear pls add
Are you guys playing the game?
Solo is full melee dominated, druid rogue barb by far most played classes.
Duos is a good mix, most used classes are barb wiz ranger, lots of double ranged but also lots of double melee and lots of ranged/melee splits.
Trio also has both, ranged comps but druid heal buffball comps are melee based and scale the best out of any comp in the game.
Arena is also melee dominated as of rn, fighter + barb are taking up half the warlord spots on their own, and I'm happier to see a barb than a ranger on my team currently unless it's like bridge.
breakthru is a garbage perk that doesnt work half the time, achilles is a one time use ability (until it regenerates) that you HAVE to land
Ranger has purge shot as a perk and it's so far above and beyond other options they will always have it
havnt played since the water map came out. any new classes or big changes?
When they dropping the angler class
can you bring looted uniques into arena this time around??????
no literally nothing was added
purge shot is so bad in real life scenario. Good teams dont fight you in open rooms so at best you get 3 shots of before I 2 tap you with viking sword
barbarian as ranger coming out in season 8
you can bring 'em in yea
not out
if you lose
???????? LOOOOL

I mean sry for u if you cant do it. I mog range classes on the regular
there is no way dude actually called the best perk in the game "bad in a real life scenario"
hmmmm~
Is a DB two chest full?
Yes sell me one
surv bow deals no damage takes the most buffs though but one achilese and 2 viking swords hits and you done for knockback doesnt work against barb and rage gives me 330 hands out
I have DB, Levi, zurski
it works 100% of the time, it doesn't work against every form of CC tho
Trying to sell all asap dm offer
if I miss achilise I dont push and if you peak me on a door you dead
need some clarification i found a bis unique necklace of peace.... will i lose it in arena since it is looted by me?
whats the rolls on the zirkzis, i'll actually buy that
Games cooked. Full MS fly fishing builds have been meta for like almost a year now. Why even give us the deep sea fishing builds when they’re literally unplayable? Typical of IM to add shit nobody wants and never expand on it smh. I just want more fish variety, more fish kit build variety. But I guess I’m just asking for too much.
Graysunnn... say sumthinggg... 
Im surviving this torture since playtest. I witnessed everything, why can't you witness me....??
Purge shot is really strong in both arena and the normal game from what I've played
yo if we're doing artifact swap I have arguably the worst and most recognizable trident in the game. looking for a mid PP or a terrible bloodthirst
I wanna just chill in watermap with druid be unkillable and fish a bit
https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/lkqgyY55Fv6YzQlSB?invite=cr-MSxZS2YsMjE3NDEwOTg2&v=9 LOL, you are out of your mind
"2 viking sword hits"
140 hp class btw
can someone tell me if i can take a looted piece of unique gear into arean and not lose it lol
My wife says my PP is mid wanna trade? I’ve always wanted big fork
like in this hypothetical scenario youre creating in your head, does the rangers team just stand still AFK and let the barb just W key the ranger?
cough. is that low graphic setting. isnt that bannable?
bro didnt land one headshot and is not playing achilise and has garbage gear he cant keep up with that warlock like how
this is a really old clip
oh
maybe cap every class to a different ms and aciton speed? like barb can only get 20action speed
Achilles lantern is completely broken and freee kill on any squishy rn anyway
thou, i really want that low graphic setting because currently, the lag is unbearable during fights.
LOL, show clips of your gameplay. oh btw that barb kit was one of the best barb kits in arena during the legendary one
tell that to @turbid rain he thinks range classes are OP right now
You can still throw lanterns to trigger Achilles ??
especially in trios...
guys does anyone know how to fix the login bug? (server error) (am i only one having it?)
I mean I don't think it's intended they added it back but there's very little counterplay. They run at u sword and lantern out, it you dodge around they catch up and hit u and ur cooked if you run straight instant throw and ur cooked too
can't believe they added it back and still didn't fix it
blingi you main TM lock gang, just phantomize and walk away
blingi... you're a warlock...? why??
yeah but it's free kill vs wiz ranger any other squishy
ranger can just run multishot and wizards have ice bolts
both classes are not defenseless even against the lantern achilles tech
and rogue just double jumps away since it neuters achilles
can ranger slow barb with a perk that shoots their legs?
(unless the barb is already on top of him)
yeah lol, normal bow slow applies too
oh cool
https://medal.tv/de/games/dark-and-darker/clips/lINDZFctJHNRTDDpm?invite=cr-MSxucE0sMjQ4NjUyNzI5&v=420 we played it horrible by not choosing a less open room and we still won
iron will only grants immunity against knockback, not hitslows
ah
where does the action start, dont tell me i have to watch through the whole slop
just skip through then. Min 4
I thought I did send the edited version
Ranged combat will always be the most oppressive to melee since it is safer.
Melee players have to worry about gap-closing while getting hit constantly by ranged
safer if you not choose were you want to fight them
it only feels oppressive when you get dinged by the pushback, I don’t feel it’s very hard otherwise
just dont fight bridge or open rooms and you good.
very true ducking for cover smartly is huge
well until they have shotgun or backstep spear
melee warlock. strong.
melee barb. strong.
melee druid. strong, but annoying.
melee cleric. strong.
melee rogue. strong.
melee wizard. strong.
melee bard with shriek. strong.
melee sorcerer. strong.
melee fighter? mid. BUFF FIGHTERS! COME ON...
oh yeah, ranger too. like scp said in previous message.
they played really damn bad though? constantly kept getting in melee range, why is the wizard still magic missileing when two people are on top of him instead of walking away? why is warlock engaging in melee combat? why did they split up so much? they did so many mistakes in terms of gameplay and still got both of you down to 10% hp
when i watched that video, i thought to myself, "if only warlock and wizard play more smarter, they will easily kill them just fine. Not going into melee range.. you dummies."
why did we push them in a open room why did we not wait for them to get closer to a door and achilise the wiz and ignore the warlock you saw the negative dmg the guy dealt. We played terrible and I was not even in a speed kit but in a tank setup meant for melee combat and we still won
also you saw our invetory at the start we packed up a ranger smth team and pushed one of your highly spoken about surv bow rangers into taking the blue
dude is sending clips like these and defending ranged damage lol
why even clip that?
Fighter's WORST enemy is warlock.. one curse of pain, it's over. you're done.
worst case we take red
thats why i despise warlock so much.
we were speaking about why it was even this close and came to conclusion we should have waited for them to peak the door not ape into open room for funsy
To me, ranged classes have always had a lot more opportunity to counter melee classes than melee classes have opportunity to counter ranged classes.
Ranger has backstep which is essentially a guarantee they don't get hit when they time it right, plus spear lets them get 2 free headshots, one as you're coming in, and another after they backstep out. They also have shotgun which can be a onehit kill if you're not careful, and even if you are it still prevents you from getting too close
Sorcerer, back when it was played more, had vortex, windblast, frost lightning
Warlock has phantomize but is also just generally a capable class in melee
The only ranged class I'd say has about equal counterplay as melee is Wizard
BANGER
Almost banger until the wizard exclusion
https://medal.tv/tr/games/dark-and-darker/clips/lhZQGgIopLuCBxUmG?invite=cr-MSxQUjUsMjE3NDEwOTg2&v=21 this was peak dark and darker right here

Where is new wipe trailer
Ranged just inherently has more agency because it holds space, threatens untaken space, and punishes space being taken, whereas melee inherently can't do any of those tasks on its own besides hold space if map geometry allows
trailer guy quit 
Idk what you mean by counter but you can get a free kill as a melee on ranged but not the other way around.
Sitting behind a door, invispotting, catching someone in a corner always means a free kill as melee vs ranged.
probably tomorrow. tomorrow is the final day of arena test 8 season.
https://medal.tv/tr/games/dark-and-darker/clips/lhrlcszZu9HLnMdrB?invite=cr-MSxnUGEsMjE3NDEwOTg2&v=7 looove being almost 2 tapped by longbow
that ain't melee that's cowardess
This is last chance for them to bring back people
not really. we've had people saying that since season 5
That's how most melee play.
Even in duos they see you they insta run 5 modules to find a chance to catch you slacking and invis pot you or something
Definitely can’t talk tactics with solo players lol the same shit doesn’t work
doomers gona doom I guess
But game is dead over 1 year
melee in trios is like playing a totally different game
I don't know if we play the same game
Well ur playing ow2 so probably not xD
yea and everyone who said that is right, game has like 2K player count lol
ok fair enough
anyway buff entangling vines
WE should all leave this discord server
i dont like ow2 anymore. they ruined it. they destroyed pve..
Melee in trios is literally playing tank in a hero shooter
youstart
wipe is gonna have 10-12K people at first, which more than half of are gonna leave after a month
Buff bard
According to who
Wasted potential
Buff hell maggots
✅
i shit 6 times yesterday
Buff spiders
Also add more pointless annoying enemies to all maps pls
Yo i wanted to ask you what do you play mostly? Norms or Hr and what map?
today, none
plz their hit box is too big
I’ve seen you on gathering hall druid with 400 level is it you? @gaunt oracle
How many times did you wipe
not that many they's clean poops

whens wipe mf im tired of 30min ques
Jan 29
yall rdy for the semiwipe?
I have faith it will not be a semi wipe
is a semi wipe when you wipe your ass then blow your nose
semi semi pre semi wipe will happen before the new season
Semi semi semi wipe hype!!!!
yesssir hope they got artifact quests inthis semi, that shit was dope even tho whole game was crusty
I’ll sob bro
well it wouldn't even be a semi semi semi, it'd just be semi
if IM keeps the hype for new season as is, it won't change much with S8, because, you know, no reason to log in for anyone who isn't stickiest of sweats
Semi semi semi semi semi semi wipe?
are more people or less people playing the solo self found arena. i dont have time to grind out good kits anymore.
It depends on what they change
Obviously one patch won’t change the game but a change in philosophy will
Semi semi semi semi semi /3 weeks of down time / semi semi semi semi semi wipe?
less this week than last. its the last week, many people got their rank on the geared toon and didnt want to gear another
that hurts.
qol of life
But if Ironmace doesn’t lock in, this is make or break
does not

make or break 2.0
Exactly
honestly. we just need another game to make a very similar game to this and not suck lol
This season dropped us like 75% playerbase games gonna be dead if next season is filled with “unfortunately’s”
👍
Dark and Darker inspired is my new favorite genre
Hop on shadows of chroma tower
you can only fail so many times until you start having some accidental Ws
my man has seen life with this wisdom.
there is no rock bottom here its the endless nosedive of Ls
Required for quest item marker, W
Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
^ fix the rat problem the right way
i imagine sdf the type of guy to solo into trios as rat druid and just wait at ruins bridge gates for loot
Kill demon flies is still best quest in the game
🇼 @hexed adder
the "crow playstyle" he wants to preserve is fine, but they should need to gear up to do it like EVERYBODY ELSE. make resourcefulness, cdr, and reg int speed valuable as a byproduct
all those "non-pvp" rolls are good for ratting. they can afford to pay for them
i hate the non pvp rolls, they shouldnt appear on gear they should just be gemable; but ye idk how they can force you to gear up, it's 3 epic warmauls in inv squire into HR if improper gs again
Where are the fishable fish SDF
you can spear fish tho, they die if you are quick enough; cant cook tho, sad; the rod tech is hard to code, patience
yeah GS wasn't the solve they thought it was. they need to require a certain level of gear in almost every slot; armor, jewelry, cloak, and 1 weapon of at least [blue/purple/even legendary, whichever is most balanced for what they want the mode to be]
the squire can yell at you if you don't have the right stuff to go into PVP HR
he's done it before
I gem all my gear to have the best rolls to optimize my fishing routes. +25% reel speed 50 casting speed 35+ line durability for the big catch those are my favorite non pvp rolls
Everyone knows HR is where you find the rare fish so my bad for queuing with my non PvP stuff
Yes, restrict the reds. Make it even easier for you red portal campers.
Yes, require full blue gear. Make it so you have something to loot, god forbid you have to open a chest to get a piece of blue gear.
Just butt dialed a tavern table whoever that was my bad 
Why do stingray bubbles pop when its doing lightning attack
It should pop any bubbles in the radius of the lightning
How are we supposed to hide from the one shot attack then if that one attack just destroys those bubbles
I count to 4 like a guide told me to and at 4 the bubble disappears.
its so stupid..
Try to have the stingray charge in the opposite direction of the bubble you wanna keep
happens when more than one person tries to enter the bubble -OR- sometimes when the bubble is partially inside terrain
Or when stingray slams into it
right, but he said "when its doing lightning attack" so I took that to mean the phase
It shouldn’t break during the phase
Do you have a clip @distant yoke
it will if more than 1 person tries to enter, or if its partially in the terrain
Seems like camping reds is a problem. One way to avoid that mess is to have a flag for combat. If you want to hit the ruins, run to the crypts, just pop down a red, hope no one kills you first, you should be able to do that. But...if you return combat, now you're flagged for combat for 5 (or however many) seconds BEFORE you are allowed to take the red.
That seems to me to be a better way than restricting reds. The reds aren't the problem, taking a red shouldn't be a problem. Engaging in combat and using it as a 'get out of jail free' card...that's kind of a problem.
I died to stingray twice to janky bubbles before I figured out I had to pick a bubble that wasn't too deep into the wall/floor
maybe 3 times
I was upset
i've seen kraze say so many stupid things but flag for pvp is top
Really huh
Never knew good to know
Yo anyone want to buy my dark and darker tankard. Gotta be some turbo sweat in here interested in it
How much
I missed out on it so
yeah it sold out in like a day
Okay that explains my situation already then (2 people enter at the same time)
Everyone is 'flagged' for pvp. But in the modules where there are reds, if you engage in combat with another player, now that red is locked to you for a certain amount of time.
Make sure you guys also go into the center in the bubble
I like strawberries
It’s a cool idea
Graysun. say sumthing. 
if it happens again I'll clip it
yeah make sure everyone has their own bubble. stall the phase if you have to
like stop dps if there arent X bubbles available
can a ranger kill stringray?
Probably but because of how horrible arrow physics are I don’t recommend it
man..
spear OP for geezer fish
yeah, spear.
lifebloom druid bullies helpless fish
What makes it good?
Not a doubter just curious
+15 magic healing plus natural healing plus force of nature
fish hits you? so what. stab anyway, it'll heal up
not as mighty, but yes. the healing output from natural, touch, and restore makes the phases a joke. even last one
Good to know
S7 was make or break, and it fell flat, there was anticipation for S7, right now there is nothing, players are bored, streamers don't seem to care, we have nothing to look forward to, nothing to anticipate
We are cooked 
they already failed don't worry now there's no pressure since we already expect the worst
Not true....I'm anxiously anticipating my disappointment with the new season. 🙂
apathy is dominant feeling for me
Lucky you! lol
whats the player count at boys?
Mistfal releases in 2 months, and in worst case, I've got Arc to wait for it in
Mistfal....hmm...Steam?
yep, march 2026
Seems there's already one in Steam with that name, but doesn't look real great...
Mistfal Hunter you mean?
Guys is i5-12400F paired with an rtx 4060 good for this game? im having crazy fps drops when im in a fight
That might be interesting.
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
sounds utopian
i run it on a 1070 no problem, run afterburner
howso?
because you lack proof
dark and darker
Buff game devs, we need content plus updates on next wipe!!!
Controversial opinion
i havnt played the game in 2 years and just got back and hit lv 20. why is there only 1 trading room? has the game died?
The others were unncessary so they were removed.
they had one for each class - now theres only one that barely has activity
marketplace dude
Yes because they added a marketplace instead.
oh
there’s a flea market style market where you search for your item and directly buy it for the listed price without any direct interaction
damn i loved the haggling and back and forth
admittedly things were a lot easier back then because it was an extremely time consuming process to buy a kit, so most people just wore stuff they found
now because people can just list their gear on the market for a set price, it’s very easy for people to just go shopping like it’s eBay and build a kit in seconds
and you could write to the guy who killed you and buy ur kit back
i mean you can still do this and i have
ah okay
hows the playerbase doing?
i see
why must it be hardcore arena and not just artifact arena
Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
It doesn't matter, it's risk free, care bear combat.
what is easiest non longsword parry way to kill the stringray? #forerwin
Who better to represent animals in the avenging of Mr. Erwin than a Druid?
or as a penguin: #dnd-content message
is the stringray hard mechanically? or does it just have instant kills?
its got a learning curve to it for sure... but once you know it, its easily replicable like cave troll or cyclops
Imagine paying money for a kit, and then getting ran down by the same cheaters that sold it to you 🤣
biggest 2 tips I have are be consistent with your bubble placement and your angle of attack on the boss. if you always approach the boss from the same height/distance, she only does a couple different attacks. makes it easier to dodge
is the ray contested usually on american servers?
Each phase shift can kill you instantly if you're not inside an air bubble (similar to Wyvern). Staying in an air bubble will deal magical damage over time, so avoid staying for longer than you need.
Also, when the Stingray does its dive/dash/lunge to the wall attack, a lightning bolt goes from it to all air bubbles, so don't stand between air and stingray at that moment.
PVE Normals? somewhat. PVE HR? No. I can't speak to PVP modes
thank you gonna go avenge my boy
merc that fish
We just need fishable fish dude
XD lmao someone speaks the truth for once
This is the very balanced ranged gameplay in action @turbid rain
No one should be able to just full kill entire teams because they have 2 bows on ranger
could you stop spamming bullshit please
I got timed out for saying "fuck ya" the other day but mods will let this shit go on indefinitely lmfao
Balanced mod gameplay just like balanced ranger gameplay
or be able to send bluetooth bardiche across modules


XD lmao
Ranger seeing zero actual balance changes because he has to hold arrows in inventory 😭😭😭
hope they dont add quiver ngl, shits just gonna make it so that rangers can carry bunch of arrows without losing main inventory space


i want to see atleast a true damage removal
its so sad they spent all that time making a map and killing the game in the process


only for nobody to even play the map a few months after release
isn’t that why people want quiver
10 more days for some people already
I want to see all bows not provide armor pen I want to see bows not be drawn indefinitely or automatically un draw after 5 seconds and bow sway incorporated into the game
all its gonna do is buff ranger


there should be a limit to how long you can hold a bow and multishot


Exactly
literally just nerf multishot, shit is stupid
78 DMG per arrow chest shot it's fair
-5 vigor to barb thats all u get
it's stupid how long multishot has been stupid
blame it all on vincentt, he provides feedback on ranger to the devs
streamers are half the reason why this game is dead


Morning
I'll never blame vincentt for anything

It's funny that I was curious to see how much DMG it would do but I ran max armor pen and only strength gear against gk and he phased Everytime I multishot and because I had cooldown reduction on the kit I just had super cast multishot back to back
I lie actually I had buttoned leggings with strength and agility
Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Good ideas
😘
Indefinitely holding a 80 lb to 130lb draw on a longbow is actually insane work if people think that's normal
That is damn near super human
They could at least make it make sense a bit ya know
there's no fall dmg, I hate "muh realism" arguments regarding game balance. It's stupid and broken the way it is, you don't have to justify nerfing stupid shit because of realism
this game is really realistic, my hand crossbow weighs the same as a pavise
well you have to factor in the bolts
any new content in the new season?
Well obviously there will be new content, just what is unknown since they are hella quiet
@proud copper Make it so that when rouges go invisible they have to campfire in order to regain charges.
Fishable fish next season?
plz
fishing is coming, but can only be done in the Raft modules in Ice Caverns
not a bad idea. druid's wildshape should also have limited charges as well
cant wait for new season druid buff
panther now can be double jump and chicken replace with bird so he can flight is great changes
then we need more dmg or make us actually faster than other classes
when it's wipe?
29th
thank you
remove water map, penguins, arena, pve mode, and all stat changes since end of year 2024...i think it was like after patch 69 where they went full stupid.
Who the hell thought penguins and a pirate map fit this game aesthetically?
Is it a full wipe this time? Front to back?
theyre trying make DnD like DnD. DnD has a lot of pirate campaigns so i think theyre trying make DnD kinda similar to DnD thematically, while doing wildly different and out-of-place things like all of druid and sorc tele
Whenever I make a post in lfg it gets deleted immediately, am I doing something wrong?
whens wipe
29th
ty
hi gamers, is arenas open?
buff penguin
id love to see a buff penguin
me fr
failed connect to the server. already tested for missing files still getting this message. any solutions?
uninstall

