game-discussion

[sonic maple]

How many do you have

[jovial night]

yesterday i made 3 tears in 4 hours. now in 10 hours i did nothing lol.

[pseudo blaze]

Which class is best for using shields?

[jovial night]

uniques are not dropping neither from colossus pile

[jovial viper]

fighter can use all the shields and is the only class with shield perks

[karmic scroll]

For a returning solo player what class and build would you rec re learning the game with? I haven’t played in about 7 months and I used to like barb and bard but I’m not against any class. Any suggestions? (Sry for the long post)

[elder ermine]

anything but ranger

[karmic scroll]

Why’s that

[small dome]

what are the best classes rn??

[elder ermine]

gets shit on by any and everything unless you dont have ajob and can spend 100k plus on your gear

skills are whack too

[karmic scroll]

What about if I’m looking for a class with a lower skill floor and a decently high skill ceiling?

Does that help me try to narrow down the classes

[elder ermine]

warlock

[full plaza]

what are the best classes rn

[karmic scroll]

Ty sir

Tm?

[jovial night]

obsidian fighter

unkillable

[jovial viper]

obsidian morning star is goated

will probably be nerfed next season

[dusk belfry]

Buff the drops like what is this definitely not doubled.

@little summit

[full plaza]

What abt best magic class forpvp

[pseudo blaze]

What’s obsidian

[vapid oyster]

volcano glass

[pseudo blaze]

lol

[pseudo blaze]

From what I’ve heard wizard is the best but sorc is more fun

If you play with a duo perma demon warlock spamming dark bolts is fun as fuck too

Warlock is good too I just hate playing caster warlock in hr because I’m so squishy to the mobs and my spells lower my health so I’ve died a few times to that

[elder ermine]

just play bard play three little notes and skip around becasue your moving so fast the net code cant keep up

[jagged thunder]

There is zero way the buffed arti loot

like no way

[jovial night]

its halved, remember that. this patch is bs. they cant do any single thing good

[plain carbon]

Any roleplay channels?

[topaz lintel]

how do you know its half

[jagged thunder]

they said DOUBLE artifact loot

but its not halved, its doubled.

apparently

doesnt really seem that way tbh

[edgy sable]

2x drop rate from 1% to 2%!

[topaz lintel]

chiti says its half not double tho

[jovial night]

they said everything, all loot is doubled and its all i see is worse, i farmed like for 10 hours in hr atleast in gc and colossus pile, chests. its all messed up. all the drop is worse.

[plain carbon]

You don't understand stats

Statistics aren't about your personal experience

[edgy sable]

from 1% to 2% 😮

doubled from 0.5% to 1%!

If before you only needed 200 kills now you only need 100!

[pliant valley]

doubled doesn't mean guaranteed

[jagged thunder]

yea man. thats not how that works.

Ghost king is 1/22

same for wyv

[meager current]

Just hit a rogue with 3 fireballs, glad the game is back in a shit mele meta.

[topaz lintel]

but did you die

[inland leaf]

u prolly in boof

[meager current]

100k arena set 60% power bounus goof ah.

[severe coyote]

there's a guy in arena named "fighterrainingarrows" that is just teamkilling everyone on spawn, he's got the reddest name I've ever seen. Do these people get banned?

[inland leaf]

boof kit

[meager current]

I have more value in fulgors than ur entire worth.

[inland leaf]

u wish

[meager current]

come trade rn

[inland leaf]

Nah idc that much

[meager current]

i have 5 fulgor spare rofl.

[edgy sable]

BOOM ROASTED!

[inland leaf]

My stash is worth 10x urs

pipe down lil bro

[edgy sable]

bro probably doesnt even have fulgors to donate to me thats how poor he is

[inland leaf]

u ever seen 1mil in coins?

U ever seen a stash page full of chests?

[topaz lintel]

wth when did the cringe awards start

[meager current]

dont even rate you brotha. i pulled first cinder of wipe.

[inland leaf]

nice bro ever had a page full of artis?

[meager current]

over 150 golem kills 50+ tears

yeah had prolly 5M this wipe

[inland leaf]

ur still in boof

5m thats it?

[meager current]

come trade yapper

[inland leaf]

i wipe my ass with 5m

[jovial night]

and you dont know how they "work", my personal experience tells me they suck at applying patches

[pallid hemlock]

luck was fully cut down by 90% and we had conditioned shmucks talking about "its probably just glocktanes one silly pile"

[analog summit]

at this point its more likely youll kill someone with an artifact than getting one to drop

also at this point you could be able to sell enough stuff to purchase an artifact from someone

[cold quail]

once the artifact arena event starts we wont lose rank right?

[lethal badger]

As what it says, yes

[cold quail]

w tahnk you

[finite saffron]

anyone else got tvk.sys bsod and solved it before?

[fresh saddle]

how do the giga rich go about getting dbs for trade? How much even are they? Can't see any on the flea

[main lintel]

why is arena even a thing.... just queued 60 mins and then it said match cancelled

[uncut tiger]

Is there a specific channel to ask for techical issues? I'm having performance issues with the game and have no idea where/who to ask. Thanks!

[warm ingot]

We gotta raise the market cap next wipe. Make the cap for artifacts only higher. Having to sit on trade is impossible. You cant even sell chests for DBs anymore because its not worth enough

[pseudo blaze]

do bluestone shards wipe with the wipe

[warm ingot]

no

[pseudo blaze]

is it common for the races to go on sale?

[warm ingot]

some of them usually the old ones

[pseudo blaze]

do the lycans or crocodiles ever go on sale?

[sudden sail]

yo is the necrotic imp a race

[noble verge]

we're still good with insane amounts of magical healing right

just checking

[ancient mango]

so rogues can instantly kill barbs ? this game is so dumb lol

[pseudo blaze]

whats the best way to farm triumph

[keen mauve]

Go to inferno and escape

[noble verge]

magical healign is fair and balanced

[sonic maple]

+12 magical healing uniques

[jovial viper]

i mean a single ring is worth 3-5 dbs so it justifies the power

[rich umbra]

does boc scale with 20% from dark enhancement?

[jovial viper]

boc is evil damage, dark enhancement only works on dark damage

[rich umbra]

ty

[mortal meadow]

Full phys heal campfire bard song tank

[gritty flume]

Can someone craft me an obsidian arcane hood? None on market will pay

[uncut mulch]

Is it only me or lobbies are almost empty?

[kindred marten]

Arena probs

Or all hr

Also guys does anyone know how to unlock tidestone crafting

[hidden latch]

To the mf's who killed me and my bois in squire gear and then took the squire weapons off my bois bodies, yall next level petty

[agile sigil]

LMAO ngl i do stuff like that esp if theres like 1 person on the team who got away and i cant find them ill throw all their teammates stuff in the dark in different modules

[pseudo blaze]

How long would it take doing that to max out triumph

[hidden latch]

brother we squire gear in hr, the mobs are a bigger threat

[uncut mulch]

If u clear rooms and extract, quite fast it will take u few hours or day

[pseudo blaze]

I’ve been doing that on level 1 ruins for a few weeks and I’m only level 6

Or do you mean do that on inferno

[agile sigil]

i know it is mean but its funny its not like evil intent

plus i didnt do it lol ive just done it b4

[uncut mulch]

Oh damn on normals ? Yeah that's not normal (no pun intended) u need to clear room, loot everything open everything kill everything and go the red stairs for even more XP and do the same thing and u go even deeper

[pseudo blaze]

yeah on normals

I dont go down usually though

[uncut mulch]

It took me like idk one day to get sorcerer to 67 lvl

U should

[pseudo blaze]

just speedran going down to inferno though

i mean the triumph level for bluestone shards

[uncut mulch]

Ah mb man

I misunderstood

[pseudo blaze]

np lol

is there only the 3 slot escape portal in inferno?

or do more spawsn

spawn*

[uncut mulch]

Yeah it's just extract I think
Spawn extract

[pseudo blaze]

thats the only one the whole game?

[uncut mulch]

Just one in inferno with three portals and multiple solo ones

[pseudo blaze]

fucking hell these mobs in inferno are cooking me

ima wait for a solo portal to spawn

[woeful bluff]

Lol. Are you hr or what?

[pseudo blaze]

No normal

I went to a room with revolving platforms 😭

[woeful bluff]

Oof

That room sucks

[pseudo blaze]

Then got hit into like poison

And couldn’t get out

How tf do you open the doors lol

[woeful bluff]

What class?

[pseudo blaze]

Sorcerer

Squire gear lol

[woeful bluff]

Ahh. Not a bad clas for inferno

[pseudo blaze]

Feel like I need to do this on my warlock lol

[humble bloom]

Warlock or sorc, both good for inferno but sorc has much more utility. Use fire dmg for all the skeletons and electric dash to avoid some of the bad platforming

[hasty tiger]

Buff lantern shield. x1.15 riposte multiplier is criminally low with all these crazy riposte weapons existing now.

[pseudo blaze]

Do I actually need to loot to get more triumph xp? On the question mark it doesn’t say I need to

[jovial viper]

no just extractions

[humble bloom]

Just extract. But loot a little to make it worthwhile

[pseudo blaze]

How long does level 6-10 take doing inferno

[jovial viper]

like 15-20 minutes if you just go straight to the static

[pseudo blaze]

Wdym by static

[jovial viper]

i mean the 3portal thingy that is always in the same module

[pseudo blaze]

Oh aight

[jovial viper]

since all the other portals are random

it opens roughly at 50% of match's duration

[pseudo blaze]

And just one run would get me from level 6 to 10?

[jovial viper]

something a bit earlier sometimes later

uh youd have to kill a bunch of mobs and loot aswell

[pseudo blaze]

I want to grind for the races because I play squire a lot and they seem op

[jovial viper]

with warlock you just walk around with firewalk and everything dies behind you so it shouldnt be too much of an issue

[pseudo blaze]

+4 strength would be insane

[pseudo blaze]

Fuck yes amazing idea ty

[quasi plover]

mob aggro is so fucking stupid, ill never get over it bro 2.5k hours and i still get people that aggro the mobs, then start a fight with me and the mob targets me without me hitting it, this games a joke

[topaz lintel]

😂

[gritty flume]

Add footstep audio slider, make the max volume triple what it is currently

[unique mason]

im seing warlock demons go either ressourceful or knowledge+will whats best option?

[drowsy pebble]

do bolts work with quivers? no right

[hardy stump]

nope, arrow only

[tribal zodiac]

whats Volcano tear drop rate? cuz I killed that shit 15 times and no drop yet. (Norm/HR mixed). Im getting frustrated and starting hate Goblins map overall

[stone panther]

it was 5% and 10% before yesterdays boost patch, so if they doubled it. You must be getting really unlucky

[tribal zodiac]

ye i guess so

[subtle goblet]

Drop rates are still poo

[stiff fractal]

get lucky

[subtle goblet]

nah

[potent pollen]

Dnd failed to connect? is that a global error?

[signal parrot]

yeah think so, mine says that also, something about the anticheat not being installed but i verified files and theres nothing, gotta be a game issue

[tribal zodiac]

Those qusts like 10x Volcanic tear should be changed for different.. like "one item from each boss", kill all bosses etc.. Make it diverse,not just stupid one boss hunting.
Same it was with stingray egg, atleast there was just 1 needed.. it actually made me hate water map before. now im getting close to hate gobos

[silent spruce]

casters like cleric or wizard are balanced around the fact they cant regen spells during fights

making them able to do so would break the balance

[tribal zodiac]

Clarity pots just fasten recharge while sit or it gives passive recharge overtime? I dont play casters so.
But it could work this way by pots too.

[hardy stump]

while sit, its drinkable meditation

[tribal zodiac]

Thats kinda shitty.
Slow overtime could be fine

[gaunt zealot]

normals would be so peak if the gear wasnt restriced at rare quality 🥀

[tribal zodiac]

its not, HR would be empty. It was there last season and it was terrible

[hardy stump]

it wasn't in the past, and normals were very much not peak at the time

[tribal zodiac]

it was bassicaly Newbie Slaughter game at norms

[hardy stump]

'member artifacts in normals?

[dusky stratus]

about 20 HR fire colossus kilss with no tear 😅 am i just the unluckiest guy or it still super rare ?

[tribal zodiac]

I still waiting for SSF mode, where you can bring anything unlimited, but it must be self found/self crafted.

[tribal zodiac]

Me too, 18 now count, not a single tear... actually i wrote same sentence few posts above you xD

[hardy stump]

I remember when we've speculated on StR mode being just that - you keep going on and on, but only with SSF gear, then death resets you

[subtle goblet]

i swear they have nerfed the loot rates but the numbers say they have buffed them

[dusky stratus]

i got 4 over 5 days of constsant hunting & was kind of especting it to be easier after the loot boost 😅 but i guess not 🧙‍♂️ Good luck guys!

[tribal zodiac]

I just wonder how many ppl is at PvE on colosus, i would try work and grind there 😄 homeoffice today

[swift grove]

PVE colossus cant drop tears

[tribal zodiac]

oh, then problem solved

[swift grove]

1:20 in Norms, 1:10 in HR
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Droprates

Stingray Egg 2, Electric Boogaloo

[potent pollen]

stil failed to connect to the server. quit the game, anyone know what can i do?

[blissful stirrup]

are these the rates after the patch?

[swift grove]

AS A END OF SEASON EVENT SEASON 8 HAS DOUBLE ARTIFACT RATES AND OTHER RATES ARE BOOSTED AS WELL, THESE WILL LIKELY NOT BE SHOWN HERE AS IT IS VERY TEMPORARY.

its on the page

[blissful stirrup]

maybe i should have looked at it 🤔

[umbral meteor]

do the piles in gc have a chance to drop artifact

[blissful stirrup]

mystic gem and double bboss room do yes

[umbral meteor]

like gem and dual boss

thanks goat 🙏

[cunning canopy]

When does tournament start?

[finite saffron]

pls make squire to riches solos

[sonic maple]

Did you run luck

[dusky stratus]

gold skelly +10 Luck skin , always luck on my rings n neckles as i have an abundance for some reason 😅 & a luck pot most of the times except the rare few i forget , Been good so far got 4 over 5 days of hunting , but nothing since boosted loot lol , maybe i just thought it would be much easier 🧙‍♂️

[ivory rivet]

hi guys,where do i get the sturdy cloth to make that quest?

[swift grove]

ice map, top floor, Frozen Lake module. There are like 3 spawns of it in the kobold hut, downstairs

[ivory rivet]

oh alright,thanks a lot

[cobalt cairn]

there is also one that spawns above the ladder in the ruins module east of bridge and north of spectral knight

[fair belfry]

when was arti arena?

[lone seal]

what he said ///\

[drowsy solar]

If I have max affinity with the goblin merchant will they retrieve more of my stuff if a player doesnt loot me? or is it a higher chance not certain if not looted

[cunning canopy]

If you have maxed and noone loots you you get back pretty much everything

[drowsy solar]

thank ya

[cunning canopy]

But dont count on that. You Will get looted xD

[drowsy solar]

haha i wont

[cunning canopy]

Also, if you die to void It doesnt retrieve

[drowsy solar]

oof rip

[spiral tinsel]

Is this a game?

[hardy stump]

the void thing isn't true for a long time now, he retrieves regardless of death type

[cunning canopy]

Oh really? Didnt know that

[drowsy solar]

goblin doing miracles

[tribal zodiac]

I think it does, cuz i met warlock 3 times in row at wyvern and he went straight to void.

[ancient ember]

What about crates

[lofty hemlock]

oh sick we need 400k gold to get the squat emote

[valid shoal]

they said artifacts can only be dropped in inferno, is that only for Squire to Riches ?

[charred veldt]

I mean

What do you possibly think the answer is

If they only dropped there like 70% would be unnobtainable 😭

[valid shoal]

I gotta make sure bro, I am at like 10 lich/warlord kills and not a thing(((

[uneven zealot]

when do ppl get rewards from season ?

[tribal zodiac]

also and hope price wont go more up.

[pliant valley]

they started around 29k and now they have been floating around 40-44k

[sturdy coral]

supply and demand stumps so many ppl in this game it’s wild

[pliant valley]

i don't think it stumps them. i think they just don't want to pay the prices

[brave jolt]

Hey all! Whats the best class for bossing atm please?

[pliant valley]

warlock

[hardy stump]

wait 2 weeks and use 8 euro instead, that's my prefferred time to gain choice

[charred veldt]

weren't there only 10 for the quest?

damn

[pliant valley]

LUL

[charred veldt]

don't delete it twin

we all saw it

😭

[pliant valley]

brain fart

[charred veldt]

grind so bad you're tweaking

[pliant valley]

LUL

[livid onyx]

Im pretty sure barrels and crates give a small amount of exp, the most you're gonna get though is from portals/shrines and loot

Monster kills/sub bosses/bosses

[charred veldt]

iirc crates and other breakables give the same experience as a normal mob

[pliant valley]

u get 1 point for interactions, that includes torches chests, barrels and boxes

[charred veldt]

or almost the same

[livid onyx]

I know small pots don't give exp

[charred veldt]

Yeah small ones don't

[livid onyx]

There's 4 types of pots two of them being large

[charred veldt]

And spider ones I also think don't give exp but im not sure

[livid onyx]

And for experience/ap, you want smaller treasures, they go by item type not slot size, so smaller gear, smaller treasures, treasures give more for their AP value and slot size

A 1x1 bangle is worth the same experience and AP as a scroll

[fiery sigil]

hi guys, to get an artifact in s2r do i need to kill a boss or just have a key to access a pile?

[livid onyx]

There are no bosses, you need a key drop from a chest.

[fiery sigil]

okk thanks

[silk mulch]

when wipe

[charred veldt]

my birthday

[silver ginkgo]

There is artefact in S2R now ?

[charred veldt]

apparently only in key rooms IN inferno only too

[pliant valley]

right before next season

[charred veldt]

and on my birthday

[silver ginkgo]

Wow okay

[hoary gull]

when tourney?

[peak lynx]

Day 13 @fleet imp @zinc sparrow

[fleet imp]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-23130942

[peak lynx]

Now that’s a quick response time

When is random map Que coming back

Have u guys fixed it yet?

[hybrid acorn]

[pliant valley]

LUL tried to report chyunkus for being too young to use discord but it wouldn't let me

[near kettle]

Chunk 👁️ 👄 👁️

[pliant valley]

🤣

[zealous mortar]

if i max out my surgeon, can i buy blue bandages off of him?

[pliant valley]

at 150 i have no more quests, and no blue bandages

[leaden hull]

Decently new to the game, just found out about some cave troll boss? I assume it's in the Goblin Caves, but is there a specific area it spawns?

[pliant valley]

yes

[leaden hull]

Where?

I've done a few runs looking for any entrances to boss rooms or such, never found anything

Have seen deaths to it in the killfeed, so I assume I'm just not looking in the right spots

[pliant valley]

1 sec

goblin maze A

[leaden hull]

Gotcha, tysm!

[pliant valley]

go to basement

[leaden hull]

Holy shit he hits like a freight train 😭

Found the room, will def wait for some friends to hop on to try and beat him

Ty for the advice on finding him!

[pliant valley]

LUL, np

[trail halo]

so are new security setting actually going to work

[pliant valley]

no

[twilit flare]

....Is discord down?

[finite yoke]

A warning. Troll is more difficult with a party, try cyclops if you're bossing for the first time

[blissful violet]

dude but if you can get it down with a duo you can destroy troll its so fun

behavior is really wack sometimes tho xD

[livid onyx]

Yeah troll with a party is super easy once you know the spacing

[blissful violet]

with 2handers you're both just swinging perma except for overhead slam

[severe coyote]

The fact that I've had multiple arena games where I queued in, saw someone had a super dark red name and the game started with them teamkilling is wild

3 games out of the last 14

how are these people not banned?

[limpid brook]

Does anyone know if mob loot tables are rolled at death or upon interacting with the corpse?

[pliant valley]

interaction

[limpid brook]

Thank you

[ivory rivet]

one more question,where do i find chapel in forgotten castle?

[blissful violet]

second layer crypts

[near rose]

@severe coyote I got a red name on barb jest solo q in arena

[coral creek]

Is anyone able to run me through wyvern please, I just cant get it for my quest

[blissful violet]

https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps

[rotund blade]

What’s the best boss to start with?

[pliant valley]

it looks like a long open room on the map and hs a rezz table in it

[limpid brook]

Cyclops

[rotund blade]

Okai

[pliant valley]

banshee is fairly ez too

[rotund blade]

Where does one go to acquire teammates

[rotund blade]

She looks scary lol

[pliant valley]

forgotten ruins

[rotund blade]

I’ve seen her a few times

I was trying to help this team fight spectral knight but I kind of sorta brought a cocatrice with me and got them all killed
Woopsie

[limpid brook]

Watch some videos online Ryansixdaysaweek boss breakdowns are all really relevant

[ivory rivet]

tfff this will help me a lot,ty

[rotund blade]

Okie I will lookit

[ivory rivet]

ty as well

[bitter flint]

i ate the left over cheese. H E L P

[rotund blade]

Oh my gorsh it’s you

[ivory rivet]

it takes forever to load from what i see 😮

[blissful violet]

Oh noooo

And YW, it works just fine for me... maybe try different browser?

[severe coyote]

I mean it isn't about the red name, it's the SUPER red name and them just teamkilling in arena back to back and still apparently allowed to queue arena

not "accidental" but just starting the round by killing both of their teammates in spawn on purpose

[near rose]

Yea I've run in to a few like that but nothing I can do bc red name u can't report team killers

[finite yoke]

If you can't win the 2v1 thats on you guys

[near rose]

@finite yoke roug 3 taps rangers shot gun barbs ww it's not like in needs skill

[rotund blade]

More so the surprise of the action is what makes it an issue yes?

[near rose]

@rotund blade not like that but in arena spawn room what u gonna do up next to the door insta deth sentence

[rotund blade]

Ohh okay

[severe coyote]

i mean every other competitive game solves the teamkiling problem with simple mechanics, not sure how dark and darker has failed to address it

[near rose]

@severe coyote the vision

[ivory rivet]

has anyone tried this tracker?for me it s not loading ,and i m still looking for that mf chapel room

[pliant valley]

haven't a lot of games stopped teamkilling with making the attacker take dmg instead of the target

?

[tight mason]

is there somewhere I can see all the teams in the tournament
?

[severe coyote]

Too easy and makes too much sense.

[vagrant fulcrum]

Perhaps, but I think that it's part of Dark and Darker that you must be careful where you swing and shoot and cast to not hit your teammates.
That being said, there could be a 5-seconds invincibility from the start + you can pass through allies' bodies until you exit the room.

[blissful violet]

#warlock message

Thats what the module looks like lol

[ivory rivet]

i don t have acces

[blissful violet]

Go to channels at the top and its under class discussion in the warlock chat

[vagrant fulcrum]

You can go to id:customize and select Warlock for #warlock

[blissful violet]

goat

[visual magnet]

HI, anyone got lucky with pulls after double the rate of artifacts?

[pliant valley]

nope

[ivory rivet]

finito,thank you a lot

[blissful violet]

gotchu fam

[visual magnet]

Also this feels like patch 68 all over again which is great! Where you can get full kit from round or two

[blissful violet]

Second HR fire colo run last night got an echo + tear of volcano 😄

but from pile pulls? dunno

[high wren]

expressman changed?

[blissful violet]

uhhhh. not functionally but I think he sells you items back at a better deal than last season

[severe coyote]

well in that case the game should be smart enough to take people out of random queues if they deal 100% friendly fire damage in their last 3 matches.... at the very damn least

[daring crane]

does mystical gem room have artifact chance?

[ivory rivet]

who can jump in a game of squire to help me to get to blood platforms?i tried 3 times and died

[sturdy coral]

yes special keys do. I think it’s same as rusty (lvl 1)

[hushed haven]

actually so pissed rn
battlefield was one of my favorite games looking forward to and they ruined it with the secure boot requirement

now another one of my most played games forcing you to have a crappy barely functional windows feature on just to play? so many people are gonna quit because of this.

inb4 "its so easy to enable it!!!1!!"

Not all computers are built the same. Alot more people than you think dont have the their windows secure boot working properly/dont have the hardware for it. No one wants to dish out extra money for drives and motherboards that are compatible with secure boot GPT drive requirement.
so they're effectively locking out a good chunk of your playerbase for some questionably working windows feature that not everyone has. so angering

[sturdy coral]

ur locking urself out of new games by not adopting features that have been around for years

this is the reality of pc gaming, advances don’t stop

[signal parrot]

tbh im just frustrated that its one of the only games ive ever seen that isnt compatible with DDR3, yeah my PC is ass, but damn bro my bad

[sturdy coral]

we’re on ddr5 bro 😭 it’s time 🪦

[signal parrot]

im COOKED

[sturdy coral]

😭 😭

[royal sun]

👀

my computer is like 8 years old or somtin

[signal parrot]

my cpu is 11 years old 😭

but i have a 3060 so it totally makes it all better

[royal sun]

i can't react to that message, so imagine the eye emoji as a reaction to that

[signal parrot]

[noble verge]

You’ve got this bro 🙌🏼

[near kettle]

Do goblins poop 💚 🟩

[still cypress]

whats with all these dead modules with nothing in them? Forgotten Forest etc

[drowsy solar]

assumed they were for fighting or rest spots

other than that i know some of them the cockatrice has a chance to spawn

[noble verge]

I don’t think so, probably someone just locked a cock in there and you stumbled on it

[livid onyx]

One of the modules does spawn cockatrice and one can spawn golem

[meager current]

mele in arena is so over tuned its insane.

I just walk at people with 60 PDR 45 MDR 180 hp.

[fringe garnet]

Feels more like a "tank builds are overtuned" than a "melee is over tuned"

[meager current]

Not really thats the whole point of having a frontline, the issue comes when i can kill someone in 4 blue frannys.

[drowsy solar]

ive stumbled upon it in the same one multiple times

[rotund blade]

How does one trade with a friend

[stone panther]

the empty one to the west of square A / East of refectionary has cockatrice like 20% of the time

[fringe garnet]

Nobody is dying to 4 blue frannies only I'm calling bluff

[meager current]

Triggers skull splitter, and axes build come trade ill show you kit rn.

[fringe garnet]

I am at work

[meager current]

Not that serious but i have around 6k hours im not bull shittin ya.

[fringe garnet]

Wasn't thinking about Skull splitter tho

That makes more sense. I'm so Fighter brained

[meager current]

+20% with HS and +3 wep

shits kinda op.

[quaint forge]

What r the obsidian set stats ?

[meager current]

projectile damage reduc

like ruby is physical reduc bounus.

[quaint forge]

Not that bad but still not that good

[topaz lintel]

so, pretty balanced 😄

[vague quest]

THAT WORKS WITH FRANNIES??

LMAFOOO

[quaint forge]

I mean they could give magical interaction speed to the obsidian gear so

[inland harbor]

I might get banned for talking about this but I got curious, what rmt prices are. I found a guy selling a total of 830.000.000 gold. This would be more than 1000 stashes full of filled gold coin chests. how is this even achiveable? And he sold a lot of his gold too so it prob was more at some point. Btw I would never do rmts I was just interessted how much ppl would pay for ingame gold.

[foggy rain]

Where are all of the axe traps in gob caves?
They aren't marked on the interactive maps (which are all also outdated btw), and I KNOW I've seen more than just two but the only two I can find are in the Mole Tunnels

[solemn saffron]

Anyone notice performance decrease after the last patch, and are there any known culprits/fixes?

[pliant valley]

there r 2 spots, i don't remember the names, but gimme a few and i'll run in and find out

[bitter junco]

when i launch the game its just a complete black screen now, which is great

[pliant valley]

goblin maze A has axe traps

[foggy rain]

I got it now, thanks though
There are two in the cyclops boss room, I'd checked before but someone must've already disabled them before i got there

[pliant valley]

mole tunnel is the other one

[noble verge]

Huh til

[bitter junco]

lmfao even scan and repair does not fix the issue, there isnt a warning message and im pretty sure i have secure boot on already, new update killed my game ggs

[vague quest]

Cyclops room, idk the other module name, and its not distinct enough to describe

[hidden latch]

Question, with HR does it could loot per piece or per slot? Would I get more points for bringing out a purple scroll over a purple cup?

[sturdy coral]

last season i think? maybe the one before? they made it all equal out. treasure gives 1/10 its gold value in AP

[hidden latch]

Awesome thanks!

[warm ingot]

Increase the market cap for artifacts only!!!!!!!

[warm ingot]

Yes

[hidden latch]

Does it count stacked loot? Say you get 3 giant bat hides, you get the price for all 3 right

[idle whale]

recent gold dupe was wide spread and pretty ez to preform, they tried to ban ppl and rinse the ecomany but it didn’t work

[magic sleet]

so many teaming people in us west rn

[idle whale]

US west is a shit show i feel like, compared to some of the other servers it feels very weird at times

[magic sleet]

the devs really need to start banning gold farming teamers

[noble verge]

Im pretty sure water map and wood farming is a massive source of gold

They just need to nerf some of the gold sources

[idle whale]

Agreed. Really doesn’t help that teaming is only bannable in HR, and there was a dupe this season that literally allowed infinite gold generation

plus all the free legendary accounts printed during the epic games thing, straight to the chinese

[charred veldt]

By gold farming teamers yall mean people who don't fight and run away or people who gang up on others

[magic sleet]

the country that shall not be named

[solemn geyser]

any talk on if they're going to make secure boot not required? i know my friend's computer almost fucked itself from secure boot being enabled

[pallid hemlock]

only required for highroller and arena (chalk it)

[livid onyx]

I dont mind gold being easily accessible, I mind that BIS is so rare and sought after, bring back max roll gemming, reduce the crafting* costs of workshop.

[noble verge]

Gold is just a little overtuned and could be adjusted a little bit. I really like gemming in its current state but I agree the workshop has a lot of potential to balance these concerns in the economy.

Hopefully they refine the workshop and simplify it a bit quickly.

[hexed root]

game down?

[pallid hemlock]

terry literally said workshop prices were to drain extra gold from the economy caused by duping (the duping they had entirely under control)

[charred veldt]

they are lowering the 40k gold entrance fee for workshops?

Let's goo

[noble verge]

Yeah I think duping is overblown and gold is just so easy to generate now

[hexed root]

honestly material prices were crazy.. I just stopped after I needed 50 epic scaps... takes like 15-20 pieces of gear from one reroll? crazyiness.

[livid onyx]

I think it's fully intended, the devs said they want players rich, so more than doubling gold storage and keeping the drop rates high for loot just make sense. The issue is inflation happens to rare rolled gear at insane levels. If crafting/gemming produced more BIS, we'd need less gold for things outside of consumables and rare mats.

[idle whale]

yea and that idea completely flopped, shouldn’t look at workshop in that way imo, it’s a separate system to the rmt and main problems

[lethal anchor]

When is artifact arena opening? Sunday?

[teal shore]

Anyone have a problem with screen kinda flickering brightness sometimes, when I tab out of the game it stops.

[livid onyx]

It was a simple solution that ultimately worked to reduce overall inflation, but I agree they could've handled it differently

[rotund blade]

What are the spirits spells for Druid?

[torpid wave]

green ones

the brownish ones are elemental

[rotund blade]

Okay ty

[clever wolf]

can u get tear in pve colossus ? does anyone know

[vague quest]

No

[swift grove]

nope. unless they changed it with the loot buff last patch, but I doubt it
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Droprates

[clever wolf]

ok ty

[empty arch]

Monk when

[quasi pike]

Social lobbies when

[noble verge]

The vision is good but that doesn’t mean it’s not a little over tuned in some areas.

[livid onyx]

I think if we could just make our own BIS with workshop and gemming, it'd still has rarity because rolls wouldnt always be max on gemming or crafting.

[quasi pike]

Genuinely dont blame them, top tier gear is hard too balance

[pallid hemlock]

season 12

[quasi pike]

Either its nerfed and nobody uses or its buffed and inflates gold on market

[mortal talon]

Remove halberd from the game it’s a crutch

[mortal halo]

Hold right click

[mortal talon]

Too gy

Right click makes me cast. Now what.

[quaint phoenix]

How about we double artifact drop rates more, then double it again. It’s end of wipe. Where they at?!

[charred veldt]

What y'all think of my suggestion?

In #suggestion-discussion

[vagrant fulcrum]

Nice.
Do note that #suggestion-discussion is to discuss suggestions made on the Ironmace suggestion website, and that suggestions made in that channel are not necessarily looked at.

[charred veldt]

Wait that website was working all this time?

Bruh, I'll submit it later there ig

Thanks

[vagrant fulcrum]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/ might need a clean up.
Some suggestions there have already been implemented and some are no longer relevant.

[warm tendon]

When will rogue be removed from the game?

[mortal talon]

I don’t think I’m having fun anymore with this game. Anyone got another game suggestion?

[tulip arch]

Watch Paint dry sim

[pseudo blaze]

is it possible to load back into the same dungeon you just died in?

[vague quest]

Terraria

[charred veldt]

Hytale?

[rotund blade]

Skyrim
Same game basically

[charred veldt]

False

[rotund blade]

Jk don’t kill me Skyrim fans

[charred veldt]

There arent landmine rogues

[ashen steppe]

man we need boss back in squires to riches, just add like a 2 min timer if ppl cry too much

[charred veldt]

Better idea

Make the bossrs the HR variant

[ashen steppe]

OOO me likey

[indigo valve]

Facts

Peak

[noble verge]

They also need to fix aggro radius on boss so you can pass through the room without triggering that shit

[sturdy coral]

I always thought that was the point of the little outcroppings in crypt and inferno boss rooms

[noble verge]

Just going from one edge to the other triggers the boss momentarily

Like on a single corner

Reduce aggro by like 5m

[charred veldt]

And the problem

Only one it could mess you up is Warlord if you are blindly chasing someone and they shut the door on ur ass

[noble verge]

Yeah ive seen some insane baiting by a rogue where just stepping into the room and the rogue vanishes

[charred veldt]

Is that an issue? 🤔

[noble verge]

Not really that but the fact that just stepping into the room triggers the boss and all that shit makes it cheese

Hopefully some of the changes to bossing they have planned will help with stuff like this. Like if I start the boss and locks everyone out and me in then the aggro radius would make the module impassable unless you kill the boss.

[pallid hemlock]

theyre removing invis, adding wall climb and shadow step. so now instead of invis campers theyll just teleport to the closest shadow to you

[warm tendon]

Just perfect

[pallid hemlock]

on a scale of 1 to 10, how high are your hopes that rogue wall climb looks exactly as you want it to? for me its a 10/10, but thats because im expecting the worst pile of scuffery any gamer has ever seen

[magic sleet]

im expecting the same quality as water map

[warm tendon]

All I want is for them to remove the class

[vague quest]

They're not 100% removing invis

All they said was that Paul wanted to get rid of it, that's it

[charred veldt]

I'm calling this out RIGHT now

Song of shadow enjoyers will win vs Buff ball enjoyers

[royal sun]

Rogue invis should not be removed. The duration should be lowered to 1 second and the charges changed to 5 with a half second cd to prevent 5 full seconds of invis. 30 second cooldown on the charges, cd reduction based on amount of charges left over.

I like the idea of fighting someone who is roleplaying as the Human Resources department ceiling light fixture.

[bitter flint]

Im just trying to figure out what class I like man T_T

[charred veldt]

warlock

low brain power high reward

[bitter flint]

Mayhaps.

[charred veldt]

uncontested burst potential

highest damage potential

[bitter flint]

That sounds fun. Im trying bard rn. Looks like really good utility

[charred veldt]

I am a 400 hour bard main

I'm still hearbroken by the last update

The nerf to mob damage on bard was unreal

[bitter flint]

I have refused to look at the update history for that reason

[lament kite]

druid dead in a corner with the trees nerfed, form change screwed, no new forms
its genuinely so boring playing it now

[charred veldt]

gotta be the single worst nerf in the history of the game

[charred veldt]

did your druid got a 45% damage nerf overnight?

[bitter flint]

I saw a few of the esrly sorcerer nerfs and I almost vomited

[lament kite]

not talking about damage nerf, wait they did that too?

[charred veldt]

By changing shriek of weakness

[noble verge]

1 second duration? 😆

[charred veldt]

From flat PDR to %PDR

[lament kite]

is that a warlock ability or bard

[charred veldt]

They gutted the mob damage on bard

[bitter flint]

Making me not wanna play bard lmao

[charred veldt]

I mean

we got 6 months left

for bard rework

[royal sun]

yup. 1 second. Flash in and out of vision.

[charred veldt]

2 seasons

[lament kite]

thats sad they went for bard after druid
why are they massacring classes one by one

[charred veldt]

bard is better now for PVP

but that NEVER ends well

They'll take that 9% and turn it into a 6 in no time

[bitter flint]

Im not big on pvp I like dying in stupid ways on pve

[lament kite]

wizard didnt get any new spells either no, neither did sorc
its just so boring

[charred veldt]

It hit me specially hard

Because I farmed artifacts killing stingray

[bitter flint]

Specially bard

[noble verge]

Barb should get demon damage reduction perk

[royal sun]

keep in mind I'm not removing the little shadowy ghost effect that plays when rogues go into stealth either. So technically speaking the true invisibility would be less than 1 second. more like .8 or .7 seconds.

[noble verge]

For pvers

[charred veldt]

bad idea

I mean, demon warlock damage is demon damage

It is reduced

By demon damage reduction

[noble verge]

Sounds good to me

[charred veldt]

Well,

I can see it tbh

[sudden sail]

can i buy gear on the market for arenas after the update yesterday

[charred veldt]

what are you expecting for an answer, no?

[teal flax]

I thought this game was dead already

[charred veldt]

never dies

completely*

[sudden sail]

i havent played the game since arenas first came out and when it did you could only keep gear you crafted so

just answer the question bro bro

[charred veldt]

now it's all gear I believe

It says there

[noble verge]

I just like the idea of barb being low key beast mode in inferno.

[charred veldt]

lyre song

25% demon damage reduction AoE

[noble verge]

BarB

[charred veldt]

60 seconds

what

why would barb be beast mode in inferno

[warm tendon]

Remove rogue please

[charred veldt]

No chance lmao

[analog summit]

usually that barbs in solos inferno are hunting other players

[grizzled citrus]

its getting buffed

[charred veldt]

they are reworking it along with ranger

y'all thought invis landmine was cancer

[keen mauve]

NERF RANGER

[charred veldt]

wait till a rogue shadow steps behind your ass and gives you the london special

[warm tendon]

Thats very bad

[charred veldt]

they are buffing it too

explosive arrows

[silent spruce]

they're nerfing it too

they clearly stated they want to increase the risk reward of the class

so stuff like windlass onetaps probably wont exist anymore

[charred veldt]

It's going to be like barb fighter but for rogue/ranger next season

overtuned new skills they'll take 1 month to get balanced

[warm tendon]

Remove rogue from game

[charred veldt]

no

[warm tendon]

yes, it is completely busted

[tulip arch]

There gonna reduce dmg by 1 but give him 30 more move speed 50 more hp 20% faster reload and shoot speed

5 new perks and 3 skills

[silent spruce]

we'll see

[charred veldt]

ok big dawg

let's say I agree with you

[tulip arch]

Full plate armor that gives no move speed debuff

[warm tendon]

If they buff rogue I will eave the game

[charred veldt]

I am not SDF

they are buffing it regardless

watch the Q and A

they will give it a shadow step blink

probably like electric dash from the class that shall not be named

[tribal zodiac]

I just wish they do Perk/Skill Tree so there is some possible diversity and not only meta picks

[warm tendon]

All they have to do is make ghost dust pouches purchasable from the merchant and its sorted.

[candid jetty]

since when are there green cloaks?

[charred veldt]

??? you do not understand what a blink is?

[hardy stump]

it would default to meta picks anyway

[warm tendon]

I do not but it is not relevant. If they just add ghost dust in, rogue can keep invis.

[kindred marten]

Guys how do you craft tidal stuff what quests do you need to do

[warm tendon]

You need to complete all the respective quests for the tailer, leathersmith, armrorer.

[kindred marten]

ALL???

[warm tendon]

You need to progress pretty far. 150 affinity maybe?

[proper needle]

Red name system needs a complete rework. It's kind of fucked up that I can get griefed by my random arena team mates and then they can both give me negative karma so that my named is red and I can no longer report team killers. Iron Mace doesn't give a shit about the game, they just continue to let this shit happen

[kindred marten]

In that case can anyone help me kill spectral knight, ill take 0 rewards i just need the kill lmao

[warm tendon]

I can help you out in 5 min or so

[kindred marten]

Gimme a bit longer if you can, Im omw to the bank

If not i get it and thanks for offering

[warm tendon]

Just @mention me i'm playing Arena

Remove rogue from the game

[tall glacier]

Is “Balladeer’s Serenade” still being handed out?

[pale moss]

right after we remove sorc and druid, hydras, and light orbs

[tall glacier]

Light orbs? Really?

[pallid hemlock]

as counter to invis rogue, insanely goofy

[warm tendon]

Hydra is very bad, complained about this a lot. In HR and Arena the thing should have twice the HP. Light orb, only get 4 and they die out in 40 seconds or something. Druid is weak, just do not melee fight the bear. Sorc on the other hand. Idk weird class.

[tall glacier]

Melee bear is very possible if you know what you’re doing

baiting out attacks and such

insane move speed debuff when attacking

[warm tendon]

True but you are not fighting 1v1 in Arena for exmaple. When you take time to space their DPS heroes will just shit on you.

[tall glacier]

True

didn’t consider that

[tall glacier]

You know about this?

I am wondering if so

[vocal plank]

Prob not

[pallid hemlock]

Bear max move speed IRL: 2.5x humans
Bear max move speed DnD: .5 humans

[tall glacier]

It’s the emote they give to Balladeers (decently sized content creators)

[tall glacier]

lol

[warm tendon]

Idk if they still give it out

[uncut mulch]

Is blue torch kinda rare thing ?

[plucky torrent]

why there is no NA tournament

[plucky torrent]

its the rarest thing after warden shield

u have to pay $50 before game release

[random thunder]

Escondido eh? What a place @plucky torrent

[hardy stump]

removing stealth is best I can do

[rotund blade]

High roller queues are
Something

[noble verge]

LMAO hydra is broken

[warm tendon]

In what way, i do agree its a strong zoning tool but the thing is very weak. 1-2 for most classes

[pale moss]

but then you guys wont have anything to complain about

[hardy stump]

that's the point

[pale moss]

sorry you cant walk through lobbies blasting music and scrolling on tiktok and you have to play the game and be cautious

theres so many counters to invis and people still cry about it

[hardy stump]

cool, any other class requires me to bring 20 consumable items to be used every single time I want to go through door?

plus, you're likely losing stealth anyway, but you might be able to crawl walls like the cockroach you are

[gray dragon]

why is there only a fighter class discussion

[pale moss]

bro your a cleric

if your getting landmined and dying idk what to tell you

[hardy stump]

because you have fighter role only

[frail merlin]

You only have the fighter role, go here to select others: id:customize

[nimble glacier]

I know kinda off topic, but do guys suddenly struggle to get over 100 fps? I'm having that problem right now.

[hardy stump]

I also play wizard, can't really light orb every single doors either

[gray dragon]

@frail merlin ah

[pale moss]

only ones you are suspect of

and they regen in like 3 seconds if you sit

[hardy stump]

notice how people complain the most about classes that have mechanics that operate outside of general balance everyone else has to adhere to

[pale moss]

do you not have ears

bro you have hitscan abilities that do a billion damage,instant cast at that

[hardy stump]

-druids mobility
-rogue stealth
-rangers unlimited nukes from across the module etc

[pale moss]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

you rn

[hardy stump]

save it, it'll be you next season after stealth goes stealth

[pale moss]

no ill just play slayer fighter? and run pople down with 330ms

[fringe zealot]

Almost like they try to balance around trios rather than solos

[hardy stump]

good

[hardy stump]

they kind of backtracked that last season and druid changes are bit of a proof

[pale moss]

your class has been nerfed nonstop, and still is the highest dmg in the game, yet you still find something to cry about, your one of those people who wont be happy unless you win 100% of the time huh

[rotund blade]

Might I bother a veteran for a query

[pale moss]

go ahead

[rotund blade]

How can you trade with friends outside of trade post?

[pale moss]

you cant

[rotund blade]

Oh okay

[pale moss]

auction house ig technically

[rotund blade]

And you can’t drop stuff either?

[pale moss]

it gets returned to them

[acoustic igloo]

Where can i search for teammates here?

[rotund blade]

So you can’t just gift a friend stuff?

[pale moss]

#lfg-northamerica

[pale moss]

not if you dont have trading post, no

[hardy stump]

I've been always spell cleric, my build was killed for almost a year and was brought back from obscurity only this season

[rotund blade]

Okay thank you

[pseudo blaze]

Is it good lol

[hardy stump]

it is good NOW, it was horrible for the year prior to this season

as for bonk cleric, fighter shuts that down with a single button

[lilac cloud]

is anyone getting billing validation failed?

[tropic stump]

I do when my internet connection fails ocassionally

But once I reconnect it goes back to normal

[fossil stream]

best way to build wizards w dark matter tunic for arena?

[honest cedar]

HR feels real good with people running around with pure Agility unique kits.

• I support all the rats that steal their loot
• this crap is lame and the season needs to end

[gritty flume]

elbow hitbox wall bump should be completely removed from teh game

[pseudo blaze]

how long does the expressman stuff stay available

mine disappeared

[sturdy coral]

i think it's 1 hour? i always get it mixed up with goblin though maybe its 3 hours

[noble verge]

Hard agree

But this probably also exists because hitting a wall rendering your entire attack 100% useless so casters can beat melee easily by crouching in corners

Whole area needs a little improvement

[proper meteor]

how do i get artifacts in squire to riches

[quaint phoenix]

bro wtf is wrong with the lobbies rn just lost a crazy kit from freezing for 5 seconds at a time

[silver smelt]

does resorcefullnes increases usage speed of surgical kit?

[warm tendon]

No i believe that is tied to action speed (dexterity)

[noble verge]

Buff resourcefulness

Make it give action speed like agility does

[vague quest]

Yes

Bandages and surg kits go off reg interaction speed

[silk monolith]

Can we please add some bard exclusive peices🙏🙏

[narrow peak]

How were these teams picked? Lol

[rotund blade]

Anyone else notice how if you lose gear and it goes to goblin
If you go to a diff character
The gear will stay there indefinitely until the time is passed while on that character

[vague quest]

Yeah, it's called bardic pants, yw

[vague quest]

You chose ur own teammates I think

For warlord tourney, yes?

[narrow peak]

Yes for the tourney, but I am sure there were tons of warlords… how did they pick these teams/guys?… your tellin me top players to be in tourney are also all streamers? When leaderboards you barely can find em… idk 🤷🏻‍♂️

[rotund blade]

This was given by green cape gang

[fluid lily]

Do you get AP beyond wanderer I in normals too or only in high roller?

[rotund blade]

High roller

[vague quest]

I got this info from one of the guys in the tourney, so

[rotund blade]

Which I mean I don’t mind it being a legendary status lock because at least the seasonal passes are behind one pay wall and not a new premium wall every season

[vague quest]

Only high roller

[keen mauve]

There's literally a post in #📢community-announcements on how to sign up for the tourney

[noble verge]

Lmao, everyone has an ulterior motive

[narrow peak]

lol how to sign up yes… how were they picked from the ones that signed up?

[keen mauve]

It literally explains

What more do you want

[lavish pulsar]

Are you crazy? Nearly everyone in the tourney had multiple characters in warlord to the point that they had to remove alternate characters/allow only one ranked of each class jn warlord to get an actual 100 count. Some of them have had three of the same class in warlord because the q times get so long at that high of elo/not enough players that high.

[narrow peak]

lol right… and after all the filtering we got… the twitch team 😂👍🏻

[lavish pulsar]

They were looking for more people because not enough people applied….?

[narrow peak]

That’s sad

[spark blade]

when theres no treasure room for golden key where do i use it?

[lavish pulsar]

Meidei, BZ, B4, bakawk, John crafter, halfghost, Buto, etc all hardly stream if at all. You’re literally just seeing what you wanna see.

[honest cedar]

The amount of boss griefing is enough to wait till next season

• Most people on hear think they're good when they ambush someone mid-boss session
• buncha soy bois

[quaint pulsar]

make Secure Boot a requirement for all game types. why are you going to let people cheat in your game at all. SHM IronMace

[grand shadow]

The ones that don't stream are cheaters and obviously they're not gonna want to cheat in an official tournament

[lavish pulsar]

Lol real

And saying you don’t see those names on the leaderboards tells me you’re blind

[fluid lily]

Thanks, kinda weird they made so you jump from adventure to HR without any in between

[austere nest]

guys fulgor magic dmg stack with mag powert&

?

[fluid lily]

Never used fulgor but I know it increases the dmg of viola

[warm tendon]

Fix team kill penalty. How do you report for team killing?

[rotund blade]

It’s assumed people play normals I think

[rotund blade]

You just want it to be good so you can match your ranger hood don’t you

[rotund blade]

It makes sense putting it in one first to test how it acts in open servers and how it works out from player feedback
If and when it works properly and does its job I’m sure it’ll be added to the rest

[fluid lily]

It doesn't do much anyways, whoever cheated will continue to cheat with the new restrictions too, just with extra steps.

[proper needle]

lmfao now that's a good joke

[rotund blade]

I’m sorry?

[proper needle]

No need to be sorry, it was funny

[rotund blade]

People will find ways
Just have to enjoy the game for what it is

[rotund blade]

I wasn’t trying to joke >~>

[proper needle]

It's still funny

[fluid lily]

It doesn't bother me as I had to do these for LoL already, it's more like for the guy not to expect cheaters to disappear because these aren't some crazy safety measures

[full plaza]

Can someone help me learn how to play sorcerer

[rotund blade]

It’s kind of like how criminals will break laws no matter how many laws get put in place
Hence the point of being a criminal
They’re gonna cheat regardless of what they do

[prime egret]

the devs of this game are so lazy and braindead i stg

[buoyant marlin]

Can they actually show the matches partychip is in for the tournament on twitch since partychip is banned?

[prime egret]

ive played this game since it came out, basically 3 years, how does melee get more obsolete and shit as time passes by

[noble verge]

I just want it to be a competitive stat bro, but matching drip is also good ngl

[prime egret]

there is 0 reason to use melee rn

[fluid lily]

I heard they buff ranger next season so gl with that

[prime egret]

they said they were gonna balance ranger but they're also giving him new broken overtuned skills so

who tf knows

all I know is this game is slowly turning into medieval cod

especially after they ruined melee combat with the parry system

everyone just holds m2

[fluid lily]

I haven't played since sdf removed all bonuses on items, but I remember range was an issue back then too

[prime egret]

m2 holding, range dmg, movespeed, cleric/druid heals

its all cheese

the easiest cheesiest stuff in this game is the best

[full plaza]

What class should I use my teammate is using cleric

[prime egret]

basically, as a full plate fighter, one longbow headshot usually does around half ur hp, they have way more movespeed, and they can parry now

no reason to play any melee class other than barb

the others are only good in full turbo gear

with a good healer comp

[pallid hemlock]

yup, boof and goofer doesnt know how to balance

[fluid lily]

I'm usually the cleric or the warlock myself and I don't care what I have with me in general, better ask your friend what he would like

[prime egret]

it took them 2 years to change the arrow stacks from 20 to 100

shocker

just lazy and awful devs

the game had almost 200k players and tons of big youtubers covering it

[fluid lily]

Which is not a W imo, before the rangers in arena at least had to have the inventory full of arrows and nothing else. Idk if they have any downsides now

[prime egret]

and they just took the biggest dump on the game

and they're only just now starting to kinda work on the "pain points"

[prime egret]

its a w for the dungeon

in arena its just a slight buff

they just need to nerf bow dmg and make it so that range classes are actually vulnerable in melee range

[fluid lily]

Depends, they can take diff pieces of gear and adapt in the game based on enemies, is bigger buff than it looks

[prime egret]

almost every range class in the game has a get out of a jail free card when someone is in their face

shotgun, backstep, magic missle, phantomize, ice shield, etc

and now add on that every class can parry

and that the movespeed disparity between classes feels worse than ever before

[fluid lily]

The 2% ms per equip meta was the last meta I played in, is it worse now?

[noble verge]

Man some ppl have the worst takes haha just complaining constantly.

[prime egret]

well now agility is gutted and when going up against the same class the movespeed feels typically the same

but when im a 280-290 ms plate fighter with a -30 ms longsword and you're a 300 ms wizard with a -10 ms spellbook

yeah

hard to do much without movespeed abilities

hell if it wasn't for the torch swap tech that negates the slow when you put away your weapon catching range is literally impossible if they play right

[noble verge]

Almost like that’s your exact counter?

[prime egret]

sure, but the only sure fire solution is to pretty much use a bow or landmine

which are both lame and unfun to play against

otherwise 9/10 you die

[light dawn]

You can just use objects to obstruct and walk right up half the time. Ive slapped them in the teeth with a headshot crossbow and used cover to cut over and walk right up to people. If they kite forever I just leave. Doors buy you enough time to get away with weapon stowed

[prime egret]

"if they kite forever I just leave"

yeah thats what anyone with a brain does

so the game becomes unfun and boring

[light dawn]

Then dont play. No need to be a rude dork about being countered

[noble verge]

My class should be immortal against all other classes and be able to run them all down. Devs are trash and game is unplayable. Peak logic

[prime egret]

im rude? when was I rude lol

[light dawn]

Ong

[light dawn]

You type like a reddit mod is all. And youre whining about counters when you can mitigate the counter heavily

[prime egret]

lol you guys should just kiss already

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

not even listening to me just calling me a reddit mod for no reason

[noble verge]

That sounds nice

[prime egret]

so strange

[noble verge]

Our pictures are from the same movie wtf

[light dawn]

"Thats what anyone with a brain does"

[light dawn]

W

[prime egret]

didnt intend that to be rude, I wasn't saying you didn't have a brain

its whatever

[noble verge]

Big W (and more I assume)

[prime egret]

take care yall

[light dawn]

All good. Probs just read into it. I agree its cheesy they can kite forever but idk how they solve that either without them insta folding up close. Its why I run sprint and adrenaline rush now to always catch

[prime egret]

yeah I know, its like if they were to for example just give fighters 10 more ms base then the casters are gonna start calling fighters oppressive

but there is a serious issue with range being way better than melee

al you have to do is look at a longsword and then a longbow

they have basically the same weapon damage but one comes with native armor pen and can hit you from across a module

seems pretty silly to me

[light dawn]

Yeah. Ranger can be insane if you hit those headshots. And they kinda counter the spellcasters really well

[prime egret]

yuppp

hey they said they plan on working on making the game more enjoyable overall this next season

fingers crossed

[cinder topaz]

what class is the best for ratting ores? just trying to get a bunch of rubysilver, but im not sure of the best way to get it

[lean gust]

barbarian. if anyone bothers you then just kill them

[cinder topaz]

i tried barb, and i just dont like how clunky it feels, but maybe thats just me being bad

[chilly bluff]

is arena ssf???

[drifting raptor]

Reso rogue is good, druid is good, or just be great at combat and fight your way in and out

[drifting raptor]

no restraints no gear loss for, end of wipe event

[chilly bluff]

any rarity???

[cinder topaz]

reso rogue?

[warm umbra]

Resourcefulness, i think.

[drifting raptor]

yeah just a build prioritizing action speed and resourcefulness, useless in combat but good for mining ore and then smoke pot + hide to run if someone confronts you

[cinder topaz]

ooh gotcha

[opal spear]

how much is a trident?

[vague quest]

Atleast 1 gold coin

[runic harness]

Anyone able to craft the obsidian arcane hood?

[pliant valley]

yes

i can

[runic harness]

DM’d you good sir

[sudden pebble]

do the other warlock perks affect the 2 true dark magical damage from shadow touch, specifically soul collector and dark enhancement?

[frozen imp]

2 true dark magical uses up the shards every time u hit but im pretty sure the damage doesnt increase at all

[tiny forum]

Anyone have an issue of joining a lobby and getting disconnected and when you log back on your kit is gone @little summit

I just spent 15 minutes and almost 20k gold making a kit and it’s just poof gone

@glad thunder somebody

[vague quest]

Gg, I took ur gear, thanks for the kit

[tiny forum]

I’m being deadass

[vague quest]

Same

[livid onyx]

How long did you wait to restart your game?

[tiny forum]

I got disconnected when joining a lobby and restarted immediately

Made me close blacksmith and re login and verify email

And by the time I made it back in game I’m in squire

@little summit @glad thunder hello

[oak geyser]

what makes a class good in 1v3 scenarios?
what would the best classes be for it?

[next epoch]

if ur winning a 1v3 it doesnt matter what class ur playing, ur playing against people with no skill lol

[oak geyser]

duh

what class and setups make it easiest

[pliant valley]

go with a barb full knowledge

[limpid brook]

Is is just me or are frost demons super fucking annoying?

[vague quest]

That's all ice mobs brochacho

[pliant valley]

is anyone else running into mobs that seems to have 2x or 3x their normal health?

i was killing magma slimes in two hits then sometimes one would take like up to 6 hits

[limpid brook]

The frost mobs really aren’t that bad other than the frost demon it just has way too much health while also being able to one shot you every 2 seconds.

[pliant valley]

fight it on the stairs

[noble verge]

Frost demons suck for melee esp slow melee, but are trivial to cheese

I hope they adjust the sub boss mobs so they’re harder to cheese/less predictable and maybe have a bit less health

[rigid beacon]

Does anyone play with gamepad? How is the layout?

[oak geyser]

its missing cancel action. otherwise its OK

[trail depot]

inventory management in dungeon is awful, i hotswap to my mouse every time i loot something plus on controller u can’t move and navigate inventory at the same time which is a pretty big disadvantage

used to be able to

[tawny whale]

The tears quest is a fucking joke... Prices are constantly increasing... Why is it 10 fucking tears.. Insanity..

[pallid hemlock]

well not the tears quest.... the quest design overall and largely just the game

[rigid beacon]

I struggled to find button for arrows and also sorcerer stuff but I'm surprised it was added at all. Kind of a shame it overwrote my original controls though

[still cypress]

depends on your class, as a sorc it's really easy to put fire wall and wait behind cover while shooting elemental bolts to the head, only thing to watch out for is the AoE thing they do

[rigid beacon]

I noticed the "mouse" is slow af and hard to pinpoint anything so I can see that... Is it a good idea to switch gamepad buttons to actual keys (I had it like this before and it was workable) or is this good enough?

[trail depot]

i found swapping the buttons to keys just caused me more issues but if there is a better setup than the new “overhauled” one id love to try it out

i expect more gamepad accessibility will come as we inch closer to the supposed console release

until then ill continue hot swapping to my mouse and reaching for the keyboard to cancel actions lol

the combat itself feels pretty good on controller and it always has so ive stuck with it

[lyric stream]

what do i do with the captains corroded key

[pliant valley]

use it on the door in the sunken ship

half of a ship laying on it's side. go into the back of the hull

watch out for piranha and mermaids

[rigid beacon]

lol yeah, to be honest I was doing the same even with the keybinds. Currently I play on an 8bitdo which, I'm pretty sure has its own hub and a few extra buttons- so if I'm missing reload or fusion casting (whatever you call it) I have 2 more buttons to work with than Dualshock or Switch controllers. Combat can be as smooth as butter, I just know it can happen.

There used to be a few places online that had a gamepad layout, and I've imitated and made a few improvements as per preference

[trail depot]

oh that’s dope i just run it up with an xbox controller

[rigid beacon]

Just as well! Probably the best option

Very consistent with PC

[cyan spindle]

when does asia/us torunament start guys?

how many hrs

[karmic scroll]

Is it worth learning the bosses if i just wanna pvp

does it really do much for a pvp player to know all of the bosses

or are there better ways to make money

[sturdy coral]

some of the most active pvp is around bosses so you should at least know the abilities and how to kite them

[patent otter]

@little summit @glad thunder PLS ADD MORE ARTIFACT PLS

[bitter junco]

add more artifacts so i can look in trade chat and never even see them

apart from on content creators videos of course

[noble verge]

Why does cleric out heal damage from multiple sources with heal debuff up

[dusk belfry]

@little summit artifact rates are not good. for the "event"

[patent otter]

TRUUUEE PLS ADD MORE PLS @little summit @glad thunder

[hazy torrent]

just do the artifact quest again

[sturdy coral]

i got a dryad's wrath off mine... let's not

[analog summit]

what is that?

[hazy torrent]

previous season had artifact quest at end of wipe

[analog summit]

damn oh yea i remember now i got a dryads wrath

lol poop

i play wizard

[charred veldt]

yo chat

[analog summit]

yoyo

[charred veldt]

is my suggestion at #suggestion-discussion peak or ass

[patent otter]

XD YOU CAN GET REALY UNLUCKY

[charred veldt]

I did that quest, after the artifact was already gone

At least got one of the emotes of all time

[patent otter]

yeah its better when you get emotes not artifact

[charred veldt]

100% agree (not coping)

[patent otter]

guys i need everyone to tell @little summit to add more artifact

[noble verge]

It ain’t happening

[charred veldt]

it is

6 new artifacts

[patent otter]

it isss

[charred veldt]

are on the back burner for...

season 11?

I'm guessing ceremonial staff, castillion...

[noble verge]

Oh i thought u meant drop rate for the event

[patent otter]

no not the am taking aboute the drop rate

[charred veldt]

what

rondel, pavise, crossbow

[patent otter]

yeah a guess

[charred veldt]

and bardiche artifacts

[patent otter]

ohhhhh

[charred veldt]

lava colossus should get 3 artifact drops

Cinder, bardiche and a obsidian pavise artifact

The new "Demon Lord" boss could absorb the axe artifacts

Or maybe giving banshee and spectral artifact chances too

[charred veldt]

a castillion artifact in which the third hit or second parry hit back like the "Your end is nigh" and slowing you a little

Banshee could have the ceremonial staff and maybe rondel?

[patent otter]

i hope the do t

[charred veldt]

like a ceremonial staff that cleanses, makes you unable to debuffs for 3 seconds after recieving an effect and maybe giving an anti magic shield like eldritch on a small cooldown per player

The rondel could maybe work on a soul scrapper-like manner

every hit gets you 3% of your target's action speed and 2.5% physical damage bonus per stack up to 5 stacks

Then if you kill a player you get half of those stacks permanently for the game (maybe capping it at 5 perma stacks)

[royal sun]

looks like I won't be able to play high roller or arenas at the start of the new season, this security update is probably a good thing but like medicine it tastes bitter

[atomic lion]

Is it better to farm troll pelt with luck gear? (I'm new sorry)

[charred veldt]

no

[atomic lion]

Thanks!

[charred veldt]

luck takes away common uncommon and rare chances

up to higher qualities

the troll pelt is "rare"

if you want fabric, sonnet, volcano tear, artifacts, ghost king c*m, lich ashes, warlord dollar store sword

then go for it

[atomic lion]

Oh ty bro, I get it now

[vague quest]

give troll and cyclops stinky stick

[charred veldt]

could be, could be

[opal spear]

has anyone gotten an artifact in s2r yet?

[noble verge]

idk why druid isn't getting a rework before all the otehr classes

janky af class

needs better skills and perks and balance

[still cypress]

what kinda perks would you like? not that I'm a dev 😂 but always interesting to know what kinda ideas people might have

[warm ingot]

Blatant fucking teaming in HR right now 2 barbs chased all the way accross the map to kill me and loot together Endezo and ToplaneGod. Submitted the video to Ironmace.... 40k kit down the drain on first run to some BS.

[noble verge]

Idk I dont play druid I just want to see druid be a fun balance class that isn’t janky or dependent on a cheese

[swift grove]

druid has full spellcasting option, hybrid spellcasting/shapeshift option... wheres the full shapeshift option? Shapeshift Mastery II needs to happen plus more forms. wisp form with no attacks, only healing aura and buff-stripper flashbang. monkey form can use utility items and interact with objects (low hp pool and damage), slow turtle form with incredible defense and no offense

shit like that. go all in on utility in exchange for no spellcasting