game-discussion

[stone panther]

cyclops module too, on the edges of the puddle in the middle layer

[inland harbor]

any news on when they sell the game to a company working on games?

faustain bargain and water map revived the game, and they only spend like 8 years on that instead of fixing the game sooo

[stark plinth]

dude installed because he threw a baby rage fit over the anticheat client running on his pc, dont think you read the chain but youre apart of the problem! XR

[inland harbor]

anyone up to team in solo to rmt? im pretty sure its okay because everyone is doing it

[fickle marlin]

iron mallet are u srsly put a spifer mommy in the dungeon?

[fickle marlin]

careful even joking about that gets you banned my friend got banned from this server for joking lmaoo

[inland harbor]

irony mace. a joke gets you banned but actually doing not

[fickle marlin]

true

[inland harbor]

anyways, they cant really ban ppl since there is no players left. noway they bann rmters because its the only ppl still playing

[fickle marlin]

no one in trios prob cuz hard to find 2 other ppl + no marketplace makes gearing up harder, but duos and solos is bussing

[inland harbor]

no one in trios because noone playing the game

[fickle marlin]

maybe if they market the game and continue to improve it we can get 20, 30, 40k+ concurrent back

[inland harbor]

we are at 5k players already. this will go to 2k within the next week

[fickle marlin]

we are at 10k on steam alone I think last I checked

[inland harbor]

HAHAHAH, 20k? are you blind. they lose 5k players with every season. it would be out of this world if they can get more than 10k players next seasn

[inland harbor]

6k, 3k are in lobby

[fickle marlin]

We had 2k already a few months ago. Now it's 5x+ that

[inland harbor]

so 3k ppl play this game

[fickle marlin]

11-12k during the evening

[inland harbor]

no

in the last 24 hours the max amount of players was 7k

and yes a few months ago was 5 months after season start. now season started fresh and we are already at the point of season end

[fickle marlin]

It was 11k over the weekend and I think that's only showing steam. Since for some reason the player list is about 1:1 with steam charts.

[night portal]

what is the best dps class ? and what is the best solo class to go

[inland harbor]

thats just wrong. google it before you type this nonsense. in the last week the player peak was 8k

[fickle marlin]

It was literally 5k and 6k a couple days ago lmao

[inland harbor]

they barely hit 11k on season start. before that season start was 16k, 21k, 26k, 31k

you can legit just google it

[fickle marlin]

season start was like 15k

[inland harbor]

every single season they lose 5k players

[fickle marlin]

youre slow

[inland harbor]

do you know what google is?

[fickle marlin]

google isnt the almighty

you are doomer

[inland harbor]

you helmet it too tight

[fickle marlin]

"it too"

[proud brook]

it was 15k i saw it you can check in the game itself

[inland harbor]

you can legit check the player counts on their website

if you ever knew what google was, you could search this website that shows player count

just dont make your helmet so tight. you cant even use google

[fickle marlin]

player count doesnt include both steam and client side

just take the L lil bro

[inland harbor]

you cant even read

you said on steam alone, but cant use google to search it

[fickle marlin]

youre so triggered lol

[inland harbor]

now you say on steam is 11k

and then you say oh but on client too

[night portal]

what is the best dps class ?

[inland harbor]

loosen up your helmet little boy

you cant even use google

[tribal zodiac]

I would say Bard.

[inland harbor]

you loosened up your helmet? you understand it now dont you

[fickle marlin]

stay mad

[inland harbor]

hahha see, you get it now

how did you even turn on your pc? did mommy help you with that?

[fickle marlin]

wiz

[fickle marlin]

never seen somebody mald so much about a game they hate lol

[inland harbor]

who cares about the game, you cant even turn your pc on on yourself

[amber breach]

some people wake up mad and immediately go to the dark and darker general chat

[surreal terrace]

Game will be revived once space map comes out

[amber breach]

[fickle marlin]

love u too

[inland harbor]

lol i just saw on your profile that you are into loli. thats gross

he named himself "brotection" and is into loli, crazy dude

[fickle marlin]

idk who youre talking to lol

[dense bison]

[inland harbor]

you are proud of that? XD

[fickle marlin]

nothing in my profile says that I guess youre the one with your monitor not on lol

w ragebait

[inland harbor]

it says you love men and are into loli

[fluid apex]

rouge, ranger, wizard, sorc

[inland harbor]

kinda weird tbh

and even weirder to make it your discord stick like how can you be proud of that

[fickle marlin]

duuude stop outing yourself

[inland harbor]

why are you pming me to stop it? XD

you dont want others to know?

[inner token]

No one cares abour your marriage arguments in a game discussion channel, guys :3

[inland harbor]

ye idk why he pms me that he doesnt want others to know that he is into this stuff

[amber breach]

[inner token]

Just let him be, ignorance is bliss :3

[inland harbor]

you are right, i should ignore his weird msgs

[fickle marlin]

Like bro wants to be sued for defamation

[inland harbor]

hahah, he threatented me now to stop making it public

[fickle marlin]

no one would ever wanna be in your dms, not even men

[inner token]

Guys can you stop already? Its so embarrassingly childish at this point

[inland harbor]

Brotection — 18.02.26, 15:13
please stop man, I really dont want others to know that. I didnt know you could see that

ill leave it at that

[amber breach]

market is bad change my mind

[sturdy coral]

counter point it gives more value to a bunch of junk

[amber breach]

counterpoint does anyone buy that junk anyway

[sturdy coral]

someone who doesn’t have any use for a falchion of honor won’t ever pick up a token of honor

conversely if someone wants that item but struggle to find the drop can buy it

[fickle marlin]

but but its funny

[dusky marsh]

can we get this guy banned already? theres nothing but toxic messages, defamation, plain rudity and lies. just check this guy's posts of the last 5 hours.
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[inland harbor]

@mommy can you please help me with this guy from the internet

[wispy lichen]

i just looted a choker in game

didnt think that was supposed to be a thing

[amber breach]

okay maybe hunting loot/ craft items

[inner token]

Not really, it may be funny for you two, but people are here to ask stuff about the game

[amber breach]

you have partially changed my mind

[inland harbor]

true, im asking stuff about the game all the time, like when do they sell to a company working on games?

[fickle marlin]

It's mainly funny for my trio in discord but you right it's getting a lil sad lol

[inland harbor]

dont be so harsh to yourself, you are not sad, maybe pathetic

[inner token]

In which location?

[daring laurel]

thank god the halberds second parry swing starts 10 feet behind you and swings 180 degrees across your body

[wispy lichen]

it was inside the rusty key room in pve mode inside the wooden box next to the marvalous chest

just sitting there

and no one could have put it there cause i opened it with the key

[inner token]

That is iirc the only place in the entire game you can get rings/necklaces from

[wispy lichen]

ohhh

[inner token]

Kinda meh that other key rooms or perhaps even boss loot rooms don't have it too, but i think its also a good thing

[sturdy coral]

personally that’s what I use market for, preferring to find or craft the stuff I use

[prisma edge]

Alright just downloaded the game, any advice for a first character? Or just pick and go?

[sturdy coral]

fighter is good to start with, they have a perk called weapon master so you can explore diff weapons as you wish

[amber breach]

me too, the lobbies just have a different feeling when you know people can just go buy BIS items though

[amber breach]

pick and go have fun

[deep helm]

Play fighter. U kind of just win and do everything

[hardy stump]

anything as long as its not wizard

[inner token]

Why not? Its their choice to play what the wanna play, no?

[sturdy coral]

definitely not a good choice for a brand new player

[amber breach]

unleash the beast go druid

[inner token]

Well yeah, but everyone starts somewhere, i didn't know how to play rogue when i started playing, and after some time i tried out every class and kinda stayed with druid for the longest time, now i play bard, fighter, cleric (haven't touched sorc in like a year or smth)

[dusky marsh]

i started with wizard. it was a painful journey. you gotta love a good hardcore challenge tho.

[smoky drum]

what the fuck is the point of coming back and playing as NPC, it does nothing other than being a troll

[hardy stump]

because wizard makes for extremely unpleasent first experience if you don't know this game

[inner token]

Fair i guess :3

[fossil arch]

Im having fps issues after they dis a patch a few months ago. Anyone have any tips?

[hearty ginkgo]

is market open yet

i remember someone said like 15 hours

[hardy stump]

you get special currency you can exchange for legendaries and boss drops

[hardy stump]

try 12 hours

[hearty ginkgo]

it was like 3 hours ago so

i guess youre right

[smoky drum]

oh, i didnt know that, do i get points for killing players?

[hardy stump]

dealmaker quests

and if you get spider mummy, just stalk someone, don't attack, give them permanent anxiety for the rest of the match

[dusky marsh]

check cpu temps and ingame settings for rendering distance and the like

[amber breach]

market is open it’s joever

[fossil arch]

I have a 3080 and i7 somethin. But willdo

[hearty ginkgo]

is he gaslighting me

chat

[amber breach]

I have never lied once

[hearty ginkgo]

#the-tavern message

i dont trust you

[dusky marsh]

i got 3060 + ryzen 5500. the program "fan control" helped me in a lot of games. you can set performance levels / temp curves. but yh other than that idk. they recently improved optimization so it should be better than before. are we taöking all maps or watermap exclusively?

[fossil arch]

Back in playtests I would have 200+ now in ruins it drops from 150 to 60 stuttering on ruins

[tribal zodiac]

optimalization is fcked up for this game

I legit play cyberpunk etc on ultra/2k resolution smooth totally and DaD goes down season by season to lower settings for some reason.

[coarse jungle]

i hear people saying the patch is tomorrow (the 19th) but i thought it was the 20th?

[forest wagon]

@zinc sparrow 3 different teams are cheesing lava collosus RIGHT NOW and we can't kill it the legit way because they just wait to third us, please ban them already

EU Server

[sturdy coral]

they usually patch on thursdays

[tribal zodiac]

tbh boss rooms should be soundproof to other layers :d

[vagrant fulcrum]

Remember when the troll died and there was a loud DING

[scarlet wharf]

i think a boss death should scream like through out the entire dungeon. ngl.

[tribal zodiac]

i have already ptsd from banshee, dont give me more

[stark plinth]

anyone else run into these chinese named people on us west that sprint to all spawns and then rush boss?

[wise turret]

kinda sus how quick some full plate wearers move on water map

[opal patrol]

5 all + sprint or adrenaline rush will do that

[regal condor]

the market opens in 8 hours, i wonder if theyll need an update

[wise turret]

they can have that up the entire time?

[fickle marlin]

They added a sprint button underwater apparently

I havent tried it tho

[regal condor]

yea shift under water will increase your speed by like 15 or 20 but it drains your breath meter or wateva

[stone panther]

Does not nesceerally drains your breath

[regal condor]

it deplets it faster man

[stone panther]

sure thing

[next epoch]

they actually increased how fast shift drains your breath underwater i was surprised at how fast it depletes lmao
it was like 5 oxygen per half second when i tried it yesterday

pretty good change though, it was like -1 per second before, which meant i was permanently shifting at all times. now theres a reason not to

[lyric quail]

have they said if arena will be ssf or any?

[regal condor]

ssf = self found? whats the other s for?

[lyric quail]

to help guide ppls brains to understand what the sf are

[fickle marlin]

solo

[regal condor]

well at the risk of being wrong 99 percent sure that its any gear, like it is now. nothing loss. they apologized for swapping it mid season last season so if they did it again, well that would be embarrassing

[lime pine]

solo self found

[regal condor]

okay i get it now, but the rule was, it must be branded by that charcter. so why the solo? you could easily bring an entire kit out in trios and get it branded all in that characters name.

[lime pine]

wdym embarrassing, it's another Tuesday at Ironmace

[lime pine]

Term originated from ARPGs (I think). DaD have a large audience overlapped with PoE.

[gritty sorrel]

What’s the best weapon for barb???

Like Ive seen people use pretty much everything but every time I try anything it just feels clunky and like it does no damage

[regal condor]

i think im getting old, about to google thes acronyms. ARPGs? PoE?

[lime pine]

Beside you can't really get another name on the item. If it's looted from mobs, then the one who looted it from mobs will get the name. Otherwise even it's looted from bodies, it will still retain it's original name.

[opal patrol]

Bro if anything getting old should mean u know these og gaming terms lmao

And Poe is a game haha

[regal condor]

nah whoever takes it out first gets the name. i pass stuff off all the time in dungeon

[sturdy coral]

I don’t believe last wipe it required a patch, that screen just unlocks once the timer runs out

[fading solstice]

you must be very old if you are talking like that instead of just quickly googling it and knowing it from then on

[lime pine]

Then that's that, but you can't get it 'renamed' by dying to someone else though.

[regal condor]

still havnt googled it. i think idont care enough

[fading solstice]

then yeh your mindset is old at minimum

[lime pine]

Cut the old timers some slack guys, jee

[real goblet]

what time does arenas open when market does?

[lime pine]

Arena open on weekends, trade seem to be opening today.

[grand shadow]

please don't open the market

[regal condor]

market says on the page, arena stats tomorrow 3ish

market today at 3ish as well, depending on your time zone

[real goblet]

damn tmrr for arena wackkk

[fervent fractal]

You just answered your own question

[agile tide]

You can buy decent stuff with the coins at least

[lime pine]

Coin would reach 1k this season at some point

[rocky vine]

is there any difference between strength and phys power other than the fact strength gives a tiny bit of hp?

[agile tide]

Not to mention the dealmaker sells boss drops so u can probably pick up a cheap troll pelt or something, not useless

[regal condor]

no strength gives you phys power, maybe theres something technical but essentailly phy power is strength

[lime pine]

Nah, buying with coins would never be worth it. Last season buying troll pelts for coins basically doubles your cost

[agile tide]

What's the point of paying for the coins if they're inflated past their dealmaker value?

[lime pine]

I don't think strength give you hp anymore. Since vigor more or less only give you 1 hp now. Before it gives 1.5, and strength 0.5.

[regal condor]

after like 30 smthing streng you get less phys power from it so once you stack strength high enough pys power can be beteer, same with action speed and dex

[lime pine]

Nothing, it's literally the same with old skele keys. People just stash it and never use it so the price inflates to infinity.

[swift solstice]

where do we find the black roses

[stone panther]

you don't. Only doing the daily valentine quest gives them

[swift solstice]

thanks

[shadow steppe]

will they go down time when they update ?

[loud fiber]

Str gives you a little bit of hp too.

[warm warren]

HP value per skill point after 15
Strength = 0.25hp / point
Vigor = 0.75hp / point

[regal condor]

yea he said outside of the slight health boost, so i didnt mention it

[loud fiber]

Heard

[brazen solar]

most likely

[rotund herald]

Whoever made it a rule to allow spam in #the-tavern deserves to be de-gloved by machine part moving @ 5 mph

[grand shadow]

Give us more Faustion Bargain quests and let us do it in highroller

[subtle heart]

If you find a really good ring that you need and it’s giving it ig

[main flame]

is there anyway to get the black roses besides the quest?

[near rose]

Ni

No

Can I drop them in pve to u

[main flame]

im not saure if you can

[hollow storm]

does luck work?

[main flame]

if youre offering ill take them lol

[near rose]

I got u

Go Japanese 1

[main flame]

thats m,e

[spiral totem]

Did people just get Demi and leave? The season starts tomorrow and the player count halted since wipe..

[fathom relic]

yep kinna

[regal condor]

GLOCKTANE ONyoutube did an experiment, truth is nobody knows, but most likly its doing basically nothing

[regal condor]

but i heard if you pray to blythar hard enough

[fickle marlin]

HR full of chinese teamers lmao

Game never changed

[edgy sable]

lets all take a second to c onsider why they are able to work together while we kill eachother

[dusky marsh]

they dont obey rules. they do what is most profitable without moral hesitation.

[regal condor]

empires rise and fall, thyre cultur still remains, pack hunters lmfao

[fickle marlin]

Every solos hr is 3 chinese people in crypts running at you full speed until youre dead. Then afterwards they might hit eachother a few times and split up and extract with your gear.

[woeful plume]

How do you know they are Chinese?

[fickle marlin]

Their names.

[regal condor]

🤣

[dusky marsh]

time for conspiracies

[woeful plume]

So they are the only ones who can use Chinese symbols in their names?

[dusky marsh]

maybe it's non-chinese ppl with chinese names to make ppl hate chinese ppl bc they are racist themselves

[eager flicker]

can anyone inform me on how to dodge hr ice giants special move

[dusky marsh]

not everything is that deep

[dusky marsh]

the braum ult?

[eager flicker]

yes

[dusky marsh]

dodge sideways

[eager flicker]

for both shielder and the club one

[dusky marsh]

i cant recall a special berserker move in hr tho

[fickle marlin]

Idk what this question is trying to imply or ask. It's just an observation that they all have chinese names every single time. Make of it what you will.

[fickle marlin]

Perhaps, or maybe this game has too low pop in those servers. Who knows.

[dusky marsh]

my condolences. sucks to lose resources on this kind of stuff. having those ppl banned doesnt give you your time back either for farming the gear/gold

[fickle marlin]

Wouldn't really matter if we had marketplace we could spend our 100ks of gold lol just 7 more hrs

[dusky marsh]

hunt showdown EU servers are full of chinese ppl with super high ping. they cant be shot bc their hitboxes and character models dont overlap. hunt having turned to shit is the main reason for me to play dark and darker. i hope this game is not ruined by them as well 🤞🏼

[fickle marlin]

Yeah idk teaming is just boring and makes the game unfun

[dusky marsh]

100%

[dusty vapor]

MARKET OUT EARLY

[noble verge]

Hey guys

I just got killed by someone in full gemmed blues. I was in squire. Does that mean they are RMTing? P.s. can stash tabs be made cheaper? I am stockpiling loot for the apocalypse

[pseudo radish]

If you tap shift you go fast and don’t lose oxygen. Ball knowledge

[nocturne nest]

does being killed by someone with gear mean they're rmt'ing? that's so stupid

[edgy sable]

lmao this is a great bait too

[edgy sable]

does giving money to a streamer so they can farm items all day count as rmt

[pale ivy]

its like they are targeting u

[edgy sable]

time to learn mandarian and rename characters, blend in 'ohh ni hao ma!' 'wo jiao Rusty!'

[woeful plume]

Donka

[stone panther]

on water HR... as long as you are ~~running ~~ floating around the circle with a pickaxe and in shit gear. They totally leave you alone thinking you are with them

[fringe garnet]

My friends and I snowballed so much yesterday

Started with basekit, and then some gemmed improvements from game

and now we're all full gemmed legendaries lol

We managed to outplay geared people

I died once but it was worth it because I occupied the dude on me long enough

[grand shadow]

Please SDF cancel the market or give us an SSF mode

[edgy sable]

Right?! Also SDF hit up a 6 hour stream I wanna see how good you are at the game

[regal light]

what time does market hit?

[edgy sable]

You know how much money these chinese farmers have saved up? they are so ready to finally get that sweet $$$ to support their family

[fervent anvil]

later today

[stone panther]

midnight gmt

[regal light]

tyty

[compact urchin]

does anyone know why they removed randomly generated crypt with fog of war?

[granite geyser]

ppl complained that questing was too difficult and they couldnt just do whatever they want.

[edgy sable]

Yea kind of a double edged sword, people wanna reduce the game to popping map and immediately running red > boss > artifact, but also if you have to do a quest with no map it could take you 40 hours of your life -.-

[hardy stump]

it was impossible to do find room quests

[edgy sable]

they shouldve just put in a cool mechanic like a green marker in the fog that shows you where the room is while on the quest or something

a directional arrow? something?!

[mild summit]

Good evening guys, one question. What's the point of unique gems if unique weapon effects can't be rolled?

[edgy sable]

the quest is only completed when u visit the room but it doesnt gate other quests so you can progress until you find it for the reward. idk!

[woeful plume]

That's a little too WoW, but I agree that on quests, there should be something...just not sure what.

[compact urchin]

damn such a shame, wish they kept it as a toggle, like if u dont need to quest. it was such a great adventure and didea

[regal light]

the removed fog so that people would actually converge on points of interest. crypts is still random, but they're doing a 7x7 ruins test so it's static atm

[compact urchin]

yea idk, there was soemthing magical about the fog of war

[edgy sable]

Yea randomly seeing the marker in the fog doesnt make much sense either! Its weird its a 'hardcore' game and stuff they say and then complete mismatches in execution, like you can just see the entire map at all times cause that 'makes the game playable' (4th wall break reason to have that)

[stone panther]

it was terrible for bossing. Made doing both gobo bosses and then the gold, impossible

[edgy sable]

if you could BUY a map that would show you the dungeon or parts of it.. lots of ideas to have but no fog is immersion breaking

[woeful plume]

Maybe remove maps altogether and just have a personal green arrow for quest locations?

But I like maps..

[hardy stump]

how will you find exists then?

[woeful plume]

Point.

[edgy sable]

npc that u quest for unlocks more of the map 😉

[regal light]

it was fun to explore, but man it was so much harder to get to the places you wanted, especially piles or boss

[edgy sable]

the weird part of fog of war is also being a player that palyed for 10k hours but 'dont know where anything is' cause its all darkness lol.

[regal light]

man we used to only have random portals that weren't on the map

[compact urchin]

shame, i dont care for these, it shoukd be like a special mode, available to those that just want to go for fun

[regal light]

not sure how many more modes we can have😅

maybe make it a prt of squire to riches

[compact urchin]

exactly

[smoky jetty]

Aye

[edgy sable]

need a mode that enters you into another random mode

"congratulations ur fill on a hr duo map in brazil and we've taken equipement out of your inventory for you"

[regal light]

still can't believe people do fill wearing any gear at all

[tropic brook]

eaten clams have more worth than sdf

[edgy sable]

Have SDF stream himself playing the game!

[tropic brook]

a make a wish that will never happen he's a NEET

[granite geyser]

u mean trying to fill in trios? why wouldnt you? scared of losing gear?

[regal light]

I don't want to lose gear because some goober filled with squire in hr

if I die I die, but that's a silly way to toss something

[granite geyser]

just dont play then

[edgy sable]

theres a nasty fundemental flaw with the game

nasty boi flaw

[regal light]

lmao

[edgy sable]

you WILL login and do your chores for SDF

[granite geyser]

chores are for children

[regal light]

I cba doing dailies

kept up with em all last wipe, but 2 months for a chest nah I'm good

[gleaming nebula]

the flaw is it attracts autists like yourself

[edgy sable]

lol misjudging my levels vs the people that made it 😉

[gleaming nebula]

people with anime profile pics arent on the same level as human beings

[edgy sable]

Ad hominem attack doesnt really mean much to me

[nocturne bison]

don't gas me up about how i'm better than you, tank is already full

plus you can be written off because you have an ru tag

is what it is

[gleaming nebula]

ah yes RU the counterstrike gods

[nocturne lintel]

never saw such balanced game like this XD 65% pdr 36 physic 140hp 35% action speed dying to full purple items barb XDDDDDDDDD https://medal.tv/de/games/dark-and-darker/clips/m92KGOtsuDXoCRD_p?invite=cr-MSxtblAsNDMzNDEyMTY3&v=0

balance this dog game

[gritty flume]

Unbelievable that rogue stealth is still in the game, and I can't even flame the fk out of them after dying to invis. They deserve to be called names

[gleaming nebula]

barbs and fighters are just ez mode chars for all the weebs to keep the $ flowing to support the game

[nocturne lintel]

i main wizard, but its still unbalanced asf

[gritty flume]

Genuinely why would i even play the game if dying to an invisible rogue is an inevitability

[gleaming nebula]

yea thats the price we pay for being real gamers

[fickle marlin]

The only thing that can even sit a reckless barb down right now is bonk wiz but you have to hit double headshot AND the barb has to be dumb enough to have 0 MDR on his gear.

So realistically speaking barb is the best class in the game right now, maybe even in trios. Maybe marketplace will fix that a little.

[gleaming nebula]

barbs always been the best class

[edgy sable]

play water map then u can beat up barb if you play fighter u go long bow and shoot him 3 times before he gets to you

[gleaming nebula]

barbs are like wars in WoW

[nocturne lintel]

naah it will fix nothing 😄 it will be even worse.

[fickle marlin]

Ain't nobody like dat map except for pve maaaan

[gleaming nebula]

i love water map

[edgy sable]

if you totally pervert the combat system by playing water map you can win for free

[fickle marlin]

Idk with marketplace open building kits for ranger, boc loc, and stuff like bard wiz cleric will be much easier

[nocturne lintel]

yeah but barbs will be stronger too, with this new hook, once he get u u dead

[fickle marlin]

I havent seen many barbs running ghook, just reckless rage or ww rage maybe savage roar in there too

Seems like ghook doesnt do much unless someone's tryna close a door, also taking it just puts you at a disadvantage vs other barbs

But idk I dont main barb so

[nocturne lintel]

truth is, barb is unbalanced asf.

[heady spindle]

Barbs gonna fall off once market opens

[fickle marlin]

It is pretty imbalanced yeah but like I said alot more duo and trio comps will be much stronger once marketplace drops

Solos I imagine will remain mostly the same tho..

[sleek vapor]

hey cockatrice egg.. drops form the monster or do they have a lair?

[nocturne lintel]

yeah prbl yes, solos will be harder than beforfe

[nocturne lintel]

egg dropping from cokatrice too

[regal light]

from the mob iteslf, it's just a bit rare

[grand shadow]

grappling hook seems kinda pointless. You have to put your weapon away to use it, even if you land it they just need to block or dodge 1 attack and then they'll be far enough away from you that you can't hit them anyway. Has anyone been having success with it?

[tiny moat]

Anyone having issue with wyvern putting ice cube at random on phase 3 ?

[fickle marlin]

I been running bonk wiz and winning against most barbs in solos but if they have mdr gear and/or reckless you can't do anything no matter how good you are. But very few (only the good barbs) really run those combos.

[nocturne lintel]

yeah, i mean i never had problems to kill them as wizard, just need to land 2 good fireballs thats it after this they run XD

[fickle marlin]

Yeah but if they have 50mdr + iron will and you have limited kite space in a full lobby then barb kinda shuts down sorc + wiz + bocloc. Reckless shuts down pdr fighter and pdr bonk cleric as well. So really only a good ranger can stand a chance but with jump + action being gone you need alot of kite space and 0 mistakes. So ultimately with that setup barb counters just about everything.

[gleaming nebula]

every class in this game got a counter kind of except fighter

[olive flower]

can you get troll pelt from cyclops or nah?

[nocturne lintel]

nope. only troll

[olive flower]

lame sauce guess i gotta learn him now

[gleaming nebula]

cant you just get it on solo pve map?

[nocturne lintel]

its pretty easy u will learn fast

[cobalt cairn]

honestly I think the drop rate is way worse, might as well just go squire in norms unless you wanna spend 5 hours farming him in pve

[gleaming nebula]

ah

[cobalt cairn]

that's how it was for me at least last wipe

[olive flower]

cyclops giga easy, troll has that one weird swing and its hit or miss for me since im rogue its basically make it or break it.

[cobalt cairn]

I'd much rather do troll cyclops makes me wanna fall asleep

[olive flower]

im saying

[surreal agate]

what boss is buggged?

[tiny moat]

Anyone else having issue with Phase 3 wyvern transition ? Like ice cube poping at random instead as being aimed at you ? Got two reset cause of that shit

[gleaming nebula]

i transitioned into a strong woman last year and it went pretty well

get some weird smells sometimes but thats about it

[fickle marlin]

Reckless barb counters fighter unless you get blocked. Fighter counters ranger but barb can struggle into a speedy ranger with lots of doors open. Pretty even. Both can wear mdr gear but fighter is generally a little weaker vs casters since they can be knocked back.

[olive flower]

they all get bugged some way or another rn mostly lava boi if im not mitaken

[cobalt cairn]

I think he meant what boss was the biggest one mentioned in the patch notes that is bannable, I still don't know what bug exactly since the people who do seem to know won't even say it

[marble ivy]

Maybe there was no bug, it was a strategy from the developers to pretend that there's people actually playing the game.

[lucid socket]

Does collector give a skin/emote for his final quest?

[fickle marlin]

Lmao true I only really seen people in crypts solos or crypts duos

[cobalt cairn]

idk it's an even bet, on one hand no players but on the other buggy game, both are expected

[fickle marlin]

What if instead of map rotation they added a rotating incentive to go in each map like for loot, and gave a visual % indication for which maps are picked the most/least by players?

[trail fiber]

Does rogues poison glow in the dark?

[fickle marlin]

It used to idk if it was changed

[night leaf]

yes

[trail fiber]

Thats dumb

[fickle marlin]

Typically rogues invis before engaging anyways so it's never an issue

[trail fiber]

I dont though

[fickle marlin]

You can also just take out your hands dont think it's on belt but idk

[lucid socket]

magic poison

[trail fiber]

Yeah I should do that

[loud fiber]

Someone lmk how long till trader opens

[compact urchin]

5hrs

[loud fiber]

Tyty

[marble ivy]

It does scale with Magic.

[loud fiber]

That's actually a rather interesting idea.

[lucid socket]

I meant what i said.

🙂

[mystic coral]

Ok how can I give a friend an item when the dungeon recovery keeps taking it back from him

[quiet furnace]

will arenas be keep all gear or only self found?

only just comming back to the game so want to make sure

[lament sand]

You guys need to fix your controller settings

[subtle birch]

So how many chests does everyone have? I just pulled my 2nd one last night

[noble canyon]

unqiue diamonds pointless orrr /

[next epoch]

besides a mini-event recently, you can assume you keep all your gear in arenas now. anything you can go in with, you keep (besides used* potions/lockpicks/etc). now its more of a question of what rarity is the limit that we can go in with

[subtle birch]

might as well hold on to all unique gems just in case. worst case scenario you still get the money from the collector

[grave vault]

A question is druid actually playable i had someone in my match say that druid is absolute garbage unless its healer druid

[coarse jungle]

where is the new chapel module?

[stone panther]

there is no new chapel, has been the same chapel since forever

[edgy sable]

chap de fur amirite

chappy de papi

[molten parcel]

FIX UNCOMMON GREEN CEREMONIAL DAGGER PLEASE U FUUUUCKIN AWFUL DEVS

[stone panther]

they did, the quest can literally be any of the rarities.
except the daily that can have it, but who gives a shit about the daily

[molten parcel]

not for huntress, got dogged the past 3 days cause of it

and wym who gives a shit, free chest? are u high?

[stone panther]

1 day / week coin does not difference make

[molten parcel]

it does make a difference when unable to complete a weekly quest for gold coin because of the lack of braincells from devs

[mystic coral]

So the goblin merchant only has a chance to bring back uncommon or higher now?

[rare canyon]

“free chest” Learn definition of free. I get multiple chests per wipe and have never gotten all those weeklys done because of how massive a time investment they all are. That chest is single handedly the worst grind in the entire game compared to just gooping a couple dozen HR kills and buying it in trade

[molten parcel]

free as in no time spent other than playing the game, if u dont think the dailys/weekly's do and should come naturally then im sorry ur braindead

[stone panther]

banglelord was up there 2 seasons ago (before they lowered it to purples). thas was one freaking grind

[rare canyon]

Ragebait??? Yes let me go hunt down some niche ass mob drops that only drop in HR because luck is broken, and wait don’t forget the dozens of daily quests requiring specific low rarity treasure drops that you need to play norms to have a chance of receiving, and THEN let me wait the mandatory 5 weeks doing all 6 weekly quests every single week just to receive a single chest for “free” you must be so incredibly washed if that’s your only method of receiving a chest for “free”

[midnight wind]

is the dwarf useless?

[rare canyon]

Ironically bangle lord became easier because of change in rarity required, and then the droprates of high rarity treasures soared through the moon these last couple wipes so the change in rarity became unnecessary and made that quest a lot easier

[rare canyon]

Outside of making most PVE even more free to kill for new players, yeah it’s worthless

[glossy nacelle]

someone with market wisdom, how much would a unique lyre with reg interaction speed cost?

[midnight wind]

oh okay

i wish they made it atleast somewhat good

[rare canyon]

it needs -5 ms not -10 imo

The problem is only that movespeed is harder to build this wipe than it literally ever has been

[lime pine]

They want to make the quest reward works for "rarity green or above" for multiple instance, but they just simply lack the knowledge of sorting rarity using "<=". Hence they can only make it not rarity dependent, or specific rarity.

[midnight wind]

id say make it super short with less hs damage

[molten parcel]

^^

[midnight wind]

so its harder to hit

[radiant turret]

anyone know how to get the wooden masks?

[fiery orbit]

Lets say a fellas got maybe 2 braincells (generous) what class should they play? Top 3

[rare canyon]

Barb, Fighter, Ranger in that order

[fiery orbit]

Interesting interesting

[rare canyon]

Arguably bonk cleric instead of ranger

[latent kiln]

Bargain is sooooo bad, WHY PUT IN 2 or 3s lobbys???why not only in SOLOS!!!!

[proper rampart]

anyone want to trade resurrects on ice caverns for the quest?

[acoustic plover]

ive been killed 3 v me in solos several times so should i start just queing with my friends in solo to prevent this? because reports dont do shit

[lime pine]

It's allowed in normals apperantly.

[acoustic plover]

im in hr bossing

and there is 3-4 solo group killing people doing boss

[proper rampart]

Yes go to ice caverns, they spawn on the ground at the pyramid room and then room with the yeti and the health shrine (room is called Altar)

[lime pine]

Then I guess just report them, and trust IM to do the right thing. But you never know, maybe they will ban you instead just for the lols

[acoustic plover]

reporting doesnt do squat we all know it...

[twilit bridge]

Whats it mean when game launches but wont and says Tavern error - Enable secure boot and HVCI lol?
Sometiems it does this for no reason

[acoustic plover]

unless you stream and im not waisting my time with that

[lime pine]

Well I did get one or two people banned smh, got a notification months later saying someone I reported got banned.

[queen canopy]

someone i reported half a week into the wipe got banned like 2 days later

[shy kite]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/988052459383554109/997232956827521125/received_966361297305268.gif?width=286&height=484

[night portal]

what is a good ranged class to go with figther and bard

[acoustic plover]

well i might end up making a new account and just going in with 3-4 people to kill solo bossers to farm artifacts instead of dieing to 3-4 teamers. cant beat them join them if they dont care i dont either i guess lol

[lime pine]

Sounds like you are from around.

[acoustic plover]

only way to get a dev to fix a game is to break it hard make enough people complain and something will get done

[lime pine]

Again, sounds like you are from around.

[acoustic plover]

what ever that means lol

[shy kite]

wtf u mean

[smoky loom]

anyone else having server issues with the game rn?

[lime pine]

Exactly what most of the griefer is thinking, trying to save the world by killing it smh.

[gusty oasis]

make druids playable again #givebacktransform #nerf fighters and barb

[acoustic plover]

like i said cant beat them join them

[deft wing]

Anyone know why they keep shadow nerfing loot right before market opens? They've done it for 2-3 wipes now

[tepid storm]

nerf barbs? yes
buff druids? HEEEEEEEELL NO
xd

[fervent anvil]

they dont?

[deft wing]

they do tho

[fervent anvil]

loots been the same for me

[tepid storm]

is the market open already?

[fervent anvil]

few more hrs

[tepid storm]

ok

[deft wing]

you havent played enough or you're glazing

i can tell when loots been nerfed

[fervent anvil]

i have been playing. maybe youve just been getting unlucky

[tepid storm]

bro chill xd take a step back and read out loud what ure saying lol

[deft wing]

??? what am i saying but the truth?

[barren elbow]

100% loot got nerfed I LEGIT made over 100k first day of wipe in hr water map, got my religion skin and everything, shit has plummeted

[pallid hemlock]

W gameplay

[deft wing]

ignored, no offense but you're glazing too hard

[deft wing]

yup, thats what im saying

[pallid hemlock]

knights/wardens tend to do so

[deft wing]

hes a booster lol

[grave vault]

The only to get more slots is by buying the legendary status dlc right?

[barren elbow]

Yes^

[chilly shuttle]

do you guys know if trading post is coming back?

[fervent anvil]

market opens in a few hrss

[wide verge]

are Ultimate gems worthless this season? just sell to collector?

[sudden dagger]

where can I find tear of the volcano?

[manic sedge]

goblin cave boss in hell

[fervent anvil]

i keep em for gold value cause i dont wanna buy more gold storage + it might be used later in the season

[tough plume]

I wonder what would be a good item to buy to flip

[nocturne nest]

you don't know what glazing means if that's what you think it is

buzzword for mor0ns

[deft wing]

hes defending dad, knowing well that they nerfed loot.

i really dc if i miss used it

[nocturne nest]

anybody who disagrees with me is glazing. dork

[deft wing]

facts dont care about your feelings, sorry lil bro 🙁

[nocturne nest]

uno card

[dusty nimbus]

Im waiting for a red nation gk farmer to start killing it and one pre prot pots me as a rogue in pitch black having not moved in 2 mins T-T

cant make ts up

[tough plume]

Spectral bag quest is open right

[dusty nimbus]

he then died to gk because he is stupid as fk

and has to buy cheats to get kills

[tough plume]

I have no clue if it is

[flat tinsel]

please make it so we can input sensitivity into the thousandths place (.001). in most games my sens is around .3 so going up or down 2.9–3.1 isn’t that large, but in this game my sens is .11 and .10–.12 — that’s 9% up or down

[livid onyx]

I definitely have more juicy gear this wipe, are you playing normals or what?

[edgy sable]

fights are a little too fast for me, i prefer the sustained heart work out of 5 minutes of fleeing for my life

[livid onyx]

That's why I play rat bard, it's the thrill of the chase

[edgy sable]

you get in a fight, you win, you lose, it all happens so fast! you have a guy chase you across the map for 5 minutes, now we're talkin!

[livid onyx]

It hits different

[twilit bridge]

Any get Rivatuner/MSI burner FPS overlay to work on this game? I cant figure it out

[lime verge]

Whats the point of doing bosses on pve mode if u can only get purple stuff?

[fleet surge]

Pve mode is meant to learn and quest not get free loot lol

[unreal obsidian]

will we be able to gem uniques? anyone know

[edgy sable]

not even sdf know

[sharp wyvern]

Bro lock in and learn stingray

[edgy sable]

sdf hasnt rolled the dice to have it tell him what to do yet

[twilit bridge]

lol

[edgy sable]

dont learn stingray, just learn to go afk outside it

[spark blade]

Why does ghost king scream do so much damage

[edgy sable]

standing too close, too many puddle stacks

[spark blade]

I had no puddle stacks but I didn’t know about the distance thanks

[edgy sable]

np pretty sure magic res also helps so like warloc passive reduce magic damage reduces it (i think)

[topaz folio]

Stingray is not worth it the drops aren’t that good

[deft wing]

no, i had a lot of juice beginning of wipe then it slowly dwindled down.

[light sable]

Tide ore I guess at least for the quest

[deft wing]

its happened for the past 2 wipes as well. if you don't notice then I can't help you.

[edgy sable]

cant wait till they take all that gear and DELETE IT! and then tell ya to get some more!

BOOM DELETED!

[deft wing]

cant wait for them to buff loot back to how it was beginning of wipe

[manic marlin]

Ur cheeks crazy loot this wipe 20+ kits chest 9 names from gk

[cyan spindle]

How did lantern shield dmg get buffed?

[desert zealot]

anyone else having rubberbanding issues?

[deft wing]

😂

[tame elbow]

which mob drops semi hot brew

[livid onyx]

I feel the same way about Luck bro, it works and anyone saying otherwise is glazing

[fringe garnet]

Loot was buffed this wipe in my experience

Maybe it got worse in PvE or something, I don't know.

I don't play PvE.

[smoky jetty]

buff druid

[warm fjord]

arena today>

?

[magic cloak]

thursday night

12am GMT

[warm fjord]

why god must we wait so long

is it ssf or purps?

[magic cloak]

purple as far as i know

[half roost]

when does the arena mode go live?

[west wadi]

anyone know what the workshop will be?

[unreal wharf]

when is market up

[exotic pulsar]

anyone know where Skeleton Spearman spawn?

[lapis lion]

how do I stack arrows in a quiver?

[keen mauve]

Crypts and Inferno are your best chance, one always spawns in Prison B, one might spawn in Mimic lair, chapel might have 2, cistern has 1, mummy chest has 1-2, broken bridge might have 1, twin cemeteries has a few

[knotty oasis]

7EST

so 2 hours

[knotty oasis]

Drag and drop.

100 max

[lapis lion]

yea just figured it out

[knotty oasis]

🙂

[feral herald]

Hey, when will season 8 end?

[exotic pulsar]

ok ty

[hardy stump]

2+ months

[feral herald]

ok thanks

[night leaf]

will there be a patch today or will market just enable on its own in 2 hrs

[minor shore]

Anyone else doing a Hardcore Wipe?

[lime pine]

Prob going to be a patch, new mission will likely drop.

[grand shadow]

please keep ssf

[night leaf]

2.5.2026

[feral herald]

thanks

[night leaf]

it was just a guess 'D but 100% will be somewhere mid may

[warm locust]

any advice on getting green loot drops? I have been farming for this green giold bowl for like 3 hours

[white matrix]

HR or lots of luck in pve (some say luck is placebo but i know people who swear by it in pve mode)

[surreal terrace]

pve

[warm locust]

wait high luck for green gold bowl?

[white matrix]

In pve mode yeah. Reduces low end rolls (or it's supposed to. Its speculation that it's placebo rn)

[pale ivy]

remove player controlled mobs

just died to two player controlled mobs camping a blue

[golden pebble]

@pale ivywait until you find they can be centaurs and yetis and centapedes

[white matrix]

HR doesn't have faustians. This is your sign brother.

[pale ivy]

i play hr just thought i would play some squire to riches

[white matrix]

S2R is BiS cant blame u

[near pulsar]

When does arena open any1 know?

[rocky vine]

are there only 6 tailor quests for now or am i missing something

[pallid hemlock]

Rework all maps so bosses can leave their modules
once a boss fight starts, it doesn't end until you escape, die, or kill the boss
and then add player controlled bosses

[snow cloud]

Will they close the severs for the trade update ?

[near pulsar]

Does arena come out w market

[snow cloud]

Yes

[near pulsar]

It says in a day when u look in game

[rocky vine]

check dms bro

[solid quartz]

Question, dose soul collectors bonus damage apply to blow of corruption?

[rocky vine]

i would guess yes unless stated otherwise

[floral pendant]

Praying they dont make arena SSF again that shi makes arena dead every time they do it

[junior ledge]

its not ssf

[floral pendant]

Oh have they said sum about it i havent seen anything

[blissful terrace]

how to fix error 21 for tavern

[junior ledge]

they said it in the patch notes when new season started

and also in the qna

[floral pendant]

Ah ok thx and cool thatl make it easier for new ppl to play arena too since they can buy stuff for it

[crude drift]

No

[rocky vine]

what does ssf stand for

[blissful terrace]

solo self found

[rocky vine]

ah thanks

[eager comet]

does cleric cleanse get rid of lych circle

[silent spruce]

no

[eager comet]

ty

does protection from evil reduce dmg from lych circles or gk scream?

[final marsh]

yes they do! lol

[silent spruce]

ghost king probably but lich does true damage i think

[final marsh]

any bowl should work if its better then green. but go to water map an hit piles. really easy get it there

[honest cedar]

Everyone complains about rogue (stealth - get over it)
Here I am trying to figure out bosses on solo mode and if you mess up once, you're dead

• solid game
• • nerf rogues HP harder, you poorly designed game

[sacred aspen]

Where can you farm silver?

[slender turret]

where can i get gold ore at?

[analog summit]

where do you get the broken spectacles item from?

[silent spruce]

kill both goblin mines bosses

[silent spruce]

inferno imps

[slender turret]

in normals or highroller only?

[silent spruce]

any

but highroller is more common pretty sure

[slender turret]

even pve or nah

[silent spruce]

probably but the droprates are pathetic in pve

[final marsh]

you can hit 105 HP squire pretty easily. need a few items for STR/HP on a green/blue kit an you hit well over 120-130HP. then rogue doesnt feel horrid. so idk what you are meaning lol its more of the movespeed nerf that hit hardest!

[warm fjord]

what ddo you guys think markets gonna be like? what are pepole going to be selling and how much do you think decent gear will go for?

[night geode]

flooded for the first week or 2

wouldent sell a thing only buy lol

[warm fjord]

not a bad idea

[night geode]

did it a few seasons ago. after 3 weeks re sold and made like 200k profit

[warm fjord]

im really thinking essence will be sold high

[night geode]

ehh not early on atleast. i got half a stash tab full of all kinds

pretty common drop

[warm fjord]

farmed water map for mucho essence

[night geode]

noice haha

[warm fjord]

water map hr is very broken

[sand sedge]

It will be high for the first hour but then have a drastic decrease

[night geode]

yee i got some Unique light gaunts with +11% headshot the other day

[sand sedge]

Quest items are gonna be expensive for sure

[warm fjord]

best i have found wasa unique hand cannon with 11% armor pen

[night geode]

thats insane

[silent spruce]

probably wont even be worth it tbh

[leaden peak]

when arena opens

[silent spruce]

you'd probably be more efficiency buying the crafted items themselves

[night geode]

most have to be looted state anyways

[leaden peak]

not anymore

[sand sedge]

For me it will be

[leaden peak]

u can buy all quest items

[night geode]

oh dident know they changed it

[modest merlin]

can I buy you

[sand sedge]

Quest items being 500g will be well worth getting them done, because I can just farm the ore myself easy and get free gear

[silent spruce]

if you have to dunk 10k per mysterious potions while legendary rings go for like 2k i dont think its gonna be very worth it

[warm fjord]

theres gonna be a monopoly i farmed 50k im gonna buy all of your quest items

[night geode]

oof

[leaden peak]

when dose arena open

[sand sedge]

If the mysterious potions are that much then I’m just gonna buy my rings twin. You right

But the glasses and such

Cannot be that hard or expensive to just buy

[crimson rune]

guys any tips to provide the leap of wyvern when ur are insinde of him?

[silent spruce]

considering they're a legendary drop you get from a mob that only spawns twice per inferno and you need 5 of them i think its safe to assume they're going to be expensive as hell

[warm fjord]

cant wait for arenas tho. taht my end game for this game, and bossing.

[leaden peak]

legendary rings not that expensive to make

[sand sedge]

100%

[silent spruce]

whats expensive is doing the quests

[granite hamlet]

That’s the neat part
You don’t, just try to play around it

[raven oak]

If u wasnt farmin sturdy, u wasnt doing it right

[shell pond]

Are skull and gold keys worth anything anymore ? Haven’t played in like 3-4 seasons

[leaden peak]

just buy crafted items

[sand sedge]

They aren’t worth anything since they are a dungeon only item now

[granite hamlet]

You can’t take them out of raid anymore, you have to use them in raid

[crimson rune]

ok ty, well I just prey to not lose again a full stuff from nothing

[sand sedge]

Spawns like 10000% times more tho and from coffers, small chests, mini bosses etc @shell pond

[shell pond]

Dam and I just tried to take a skull key out 💀

[silent spruce]

skull keys are common anyway

you get them like half the time from ghost king

[sand sedge]

Double your chance of getting arti’s

[floral thunder]

anyone wanna bet on new crafting items? i bet there will be an obsidian crystal sword

[leaden peak]

all key rooms besides skull keys dosent give artifacts lol

[sacred aspen]

Where do you get silver ore from

[sand sedge]

Look at the craft for silver ingots

[silent spruce]

silver ore doesnt exist you craft silver stuff with silver coins

[mystic spade]

match is currently in progress please wait while we reconnect reconecting match is currently in progress please wait while we reconnect How to fix this SHIT

[sand sedge]

They should just add silver armor in ngl

[compact urchin]

is the silver sword, the sterling one even worth it? for skeletons etc?

or better to jus roll a random blue longsword?

[silent spruce]

they're better

but only if you're going for bossing id say

[compact urchin]

gotcha

[silent spruce]

the undead dmg bonus isnt really worth the hassle if you're not bossing

its the same thing otherwise

[compact urchin]

thanks man, yeah I'm far from bossing 😄

[red badger]

Have they talked about what the workshop will do?

[copper pine]

is arena gonna still be epic only?

[silent spruce]

probably

[floral thunder]

its for making lots of shoes maybe

[tepid grove]

any good and main healer druid on willing to give me some insights on gearsets ?

[surreal terrace]

does demon damage apply to demonlocks?

[silent spruce]

no

[light sable]

I would suggest you to play healer cleric instead

[silent spruce]

both are good

[tepid grove]

nah i like druid more 🙂

[silent spruce]

druid has area denial to catch ppl offguard and the permanent regen for ur team is nice

[tepid grove]

i play him a lot already

[light sable]

Both good but I think the cleric is more versatile

[tepid grove]

i like the lockout ability etc. also doing a little bit of dmg being not as accessable as cleric due to dreamwalk

but i play him a lot lately and went a little into stat and i learned that magical power does nothing and also buff duration bonus and will is a big myth on him

[honest cedar]

I'm so glad you think you know what you're talking about.
Go into an HR with BIS - Clerics 2 shot rogues

• that's not even barb or fighter melee
• • This game is terribly designed

[silent spruce]

rogue is weird to balance

[tepid grove]

so now im wondering weather i should just stack magical healing and apart from that tank etc.

[silent spruce]

if you make them too strong at combat they become like druid where they can just reset fights 24/7 and annoy you without being able to do much

since double jump and hide are obnoxious as hell

[silver smelt]

💯

[silent spruce]

if you buff them too much then they just become even better at ratting and just third partying everyone

and there isnt really much you can do unless you're yourself running rogue or druid

[warm kraken]

shoutout to whoever coded jumping out of the water on the water map. I'm not sure how you conned someone into paying you to work, but hats off to you

[charred veldt]

You guys think they'll give us workshop with Market?

[frosty grove]

How much time till ssf ends im not home to check

[warm kraken]

30 min

[mystic spade]

match is currently in progress please wait while we reconnect i need fix

[fossil sun]

anyone know where to get the "wooden mask" for collector quest? wiki isn't updated as usual

[silent spruce]

pyramid in ice caverns

at the top of it

[fossil sun]

alright so i gotta queue shart caverns got it

[mystic spade]

altar my the jeti and goden chest

[smoky jetty]

hello riends

[fossil sun]

ty

[warm locust]

3 hours later no green gold bowl

[silent spruce]

play adventure

[warm locust]

oh i have been

[silent spruce]

and focus on golden chests/lions

[warm locust]

dont worry

[fossil sun]

dude the big toe quest for surgeon oh my days

[warm locust]

I have been terrorizing lobbies with my screams of agony

[silent spruce]

regular chests cant drop bowls pretty sure

[blissful terrace]

anyone know how to fix error code 21 for tavern iv tried everything any advice?

[mellow skiff]

arena going to be epic or legendary?

[fading solstice]

arena opens when market does, right?

[edgy sable]

Noooo not the arena + market combo 🙁

Time to get your credit card out

And buy skins from the shop, what did you think I meant?

[fading solstice]

I thought it's not max gear specifically so it's cheap to kit for it

[fallow blaze]

are you ready for market boysss

[fallow blaze]

bro buying purple bis gear wont be more then 40k which is 5 hours grind

[blissful terrace]

maybe if i could open the game

[sage stratus]

anybody wanna go kill ghost king with me norms or hr its ur choice

[edgy sable]

I gtot this problem now

[fading solstice]

40k? I dont have that but sounds pretty doable

[edgy sable]

I saw one guy had 300k!!!!

[blissful terrace]

how do i fix

[fallow blaze]

gold is so easy this season

[sage stratus]

anybody wanna go kill ghost king with me norms or hr its ur choice

[blissful terrace]

i have like 36k rn

[fallow blaze]

I make 3k per 10 minutes

[edgy sable]

Thats too much relax buddy

[fallow blaze]

All my gameplay is saved by default

i can make a compilation literally

get bard, go boss, kill boss, loot pile, loot golden chests/key escape and repeat

[sage stratus]

anybody wanna go kill ghost king with me norms or hr its ur choice

[blissful terrace]

how did you fiix error code 21???

[sage stratus]

anybody wanna go kill ghost king with me norms or hr its ur choice

[ripe quiver]

I guess they got rid of the multiple lfg channels

[slender turret]

is mystical gem useless rn?

[rose mantle]

Is there any usage for obsidian at all?

[south hound]

My bad havn't been payin attention is the market opening soon?

[near kettle]

anybody wanna go kill ghost king with me norms or hr its ur choice

[knotty oasis]

in 8mins

[keen mauve]

Probably some armor or weapons once rest of quest unlock and craftables show up

[mossy vessel]

will arena be purp or gold gear?

[granite hamlet]

Epic from what we know

[night leaf]

3 mins and im rich

[minor shore]

Do we know if/what class will get a fishing perk?

[opal hill]

fishing perk?

[half quarry]

giuys market opoenj now

[minor shore]

Yeah was just wondering if anything was datamined. They have been working on adding fishing for a while was just checking since druid has the plant one

[minor shore]

Oof

[half quarry]

bacon egg and cheese

[minor shore]

Biscuits and Gravy

[dusty citrus]

eww

[clever wolf]

market still closed are u serious

10 seconds have passed

[minor shore]

Shoot I guess I still have to play the game 😭

[opal hill]

how much would yall buy a spell book for 18% spellcast speed on it

[minor shore]

48 silver

[fossil sun]

like 5k

[modest terrace]

what artifacts come from wyvern??

[minor shore]

That's so little, 18% is insane

[dense grove]

no patch ig

[fossil sun]

alright you are NOT invited to the salesman bbq

[minor shore]

I'm sorry boss, she took the kids

[opal hill]

how much though

[fossil sun]

realistically at least 10k

[opal hill]

im in need of monay 😔

[modest terrace]

how much a warden outfit with 5.6% action speed worth

[fossil sun]

at the veryy low end

[fossil sun]

3k

[opal hill]

also what about a survival bow with 12.1% headshot damage bonus?

[fossil sun]

0.1% of rangers can hit consistent headshots lol

[minor shore]

Squire kit and water map, you can get 1-2k every run easily

[opal hill]

but if they do 😏

[fossil sun]

so prolly not that much

[opal hill]

i have a money making method

[fossil sun]

cause u can get a shit ton of hs bonus on a bunch of gear already

[minor shore]

No I will not pay for your OF

[fossil sun]

barnacle maxxing?

[dusk meteor]

faustian bargain 100% ruins this game.

[fossil sun]

no

[minor shore]

Nope

[dusk meteor]

constantly getting greifed whenever I fight bosses

[pallid hemlock]

W gameplay

[opal hill]

you're dying to faustian bargain while running a bosskit?

[dusk meteor]

these goblins should be faster than me and able to jump and able to close doors

[fossil sun]

happened to me like once that's a you problem my guy

[minor shore]

What boss needs a kit 💀

[dusk meteor]

no, im dying to troll fighting troll and the bargain

[opal hill]

i dunno im horrible at this game

i dont know how to kill bosses

[fossil sun]

...

[modest terrace]

whats a 10 phys power war maul going for

[fossil sun]

how did you come across a spellbook with 18% cast speed while not knowing how to kill a single boss

[pallid hemlock]

thats when you just go cyclops and let them sit in troll the whole game, if they follow you kill

but an actual player griefing? thats just W gameplay

[fossil sun]

confused on as to how an actual player griefing you isn't 100x worse

[minor shore]

3 Lukewarm Stew

[pallid hemlock]

it is, thats what makes it W gameplay

[drowsy pebble]

any1 here good with like photoshop or stuff like that? im tryna get a youtube banner made

[fossil sun]

i have 15 years of experience in art design

[pallid hemlock]

no, only chuds in here sorry, good luck somewhere else

[minor shore]

The only time Faustian was a problem was the Michael Phelps Pirates running people down under water

[fossil sun]

nah those were biblically accurate mike phelpses

[minor shore]

I still have nightmares about those things

[pallid hemlock]

Micheal Phelps but if he was implemented as W gameplay and W game design by W devs

[fossil sun]

holy tiktok vocabulary

[pallid hemlock]

W

[minor shore]

Now imagine Water Map Arena, but it's only them as ads

[fossil sun]

w speed

[silent spruce]

they really need to rework faustain ngl

[pallid hemlock]

"W" is twitch vocab im pretty sure

[fossil sun]

was more so referring to "chud"

thats prolly 4chan tho

[silent spruce]

80% of faustain bargain is either trying to find someone and the other 20% is getting w m1ed by plate fighter because they're faster then you for some reason

[pallid hemlock]

Rework all maps so bosses can leave their modules
once a boss fight starts, it doesn't end until you escape, die, or kill the boss
and then add player controlled bosses

W faustian rework ^

[silent spruce]

cant wait to instakill people with banshee scream

[lethal solstice]

is there a trading channel

[copper pine]

frwog mentioned

[fossil sun]

ngl thats a patience problem

[pallid hemlock]

oh, and obviously a player controlled boss can just leave the module without anyone starting fight or opening any door or anything

[rough shadow]

has anyone also found the midnight stag? just curious

[fossil sun]

hes in my backyard

[fossil sun]

who tf is frwog

[silent spruce]

i dont think checking 20 rooms and not being able to find anyone is a patience issue

its not fun in the slighest

[fossil sun]

i find ppl all the time

rarely gotta go through more than 2 modules

[silent spruce]

they really should just tell you what modules ppl are in

[copper pine]

[silent spruce]

like faustain mobs are genuinly just terrible

[full canopy]

anyone know what will be gear limit on arena

[fading solstice]

Arena is capped to purple right?

[fossil sun]

yeah fs add faint red markers on the map like a cod UAV

[silent spruce]

they have no speed and cant even outrun plate fighters they get outmeleed by full casters and they outdpsed by like every class

[fossil sun]

???

[copper pine]

we all wondering the same thing yo

[fossil sun]

thats logical tho

[copper pine]

[silent spruce]

what even is the point then

[fossil sun]

bruh

[silent spruce]

you're a glorrified pinata

[copper pine]

tell him

[silent spruce]

casters can litteraly hold w m1 at you and still kill you lol

[lethal solstice]

any collecters want to buy the Crown Of The Midnight Stag

[silent spruce]

95% of the mobs are useless

[fossil sun]

brother you literally become a mob, the same ones you could kill while sleeping

[pallid hemlock]

faustian bargain is a gimmick not meant to be taken seriously. of course, SDF himself doesnt even realize that, but thats where we are at

[fossil sun]

why should we have 200hp, 50%pdr and 20% phys pwr

[silent spruce]

you should have enough stats to be able to be a reasonable threat to ppl and not litteraly get outran by plate

[fossil sun]

also can't you increase standing with the dealer guy to be able to spawn as a higher lvl mob?

[silent spruce]

you can but the mobs are still way too weak

a fighter can litteraly facetank a faustain demon zerker lol

[fossil sun]

nah man im just disagreeing on this one

[silent spruce]

because they have like 5x as less hp as a regular mob

the only way to die from faustain is if you're completely new

[fossil sun]

the higher lvl ones?

[silent spruce]

litteraly walking backward and holding m1 is enough to counter 95% of faustain mobs

[sturdy coral]

Faustian are more durable than regular mobs

[silent spruce]

barely and not for some

[pallid hemlock]

Faustian can use health shrine btw

[silent spruce]

some of the faustain have less hp then regular mobs

[sturdy coral]

skill issue tbh the best Faustian players are very good at finding openings

[silent spruce]

minibosses mostly

[fossil sun]

i tanked 4 longsword headshots from a plate fighter in squire as a goblin

[silent spruce]

that doesnt really matter whenever someone gets near enough to damage you you're usually already dead

[fossil sun]

well 3 technically

[mossy vessel]

3k in game 7k in lobby lol

[silent spruce]

truly is a skill issue that ppl can walk backward and completely invalidate any attack you can do

[fossil sun]

i manage to get at least 2 hits in every time no matter what mob i am

[silent spruce]

then you're fighting ppl that dont even know they exist

[fossil sun]

except you dont have to w key on faustian

[silent spruce]

you do realise that as soon as someone gets near you you're pretty much dead

[fossil sun]

you can turn around and maneuver way faster than players

[silent spruce]

because a plate fighter midswing while walking backward still outruns 95% of mobs lol

and dont even get me started on ranged attacks

[stable barn]

is arena always gonna be purple this wipe or will it ever go up to legendary?

[fossil sun]

brother a lvl 1 goblin shouldn't BE a legitimate deadly threat to someone whos full hp

[silent spruce]

they arent even a threat to someone on 1 hp if they know how to walk away lol

[edgy sable]

its not once u learn to play!

[fossil sun]

ur expecting WAYYYY too much from faustian my guy

[edgy sable]

complaing about something really annoying.. like black spiders!

[fossil sun]

what

[silent spruce]

im expecting to actually be rewarded for ambushing ppl and not being outdpsed by a caster with 5 strenght

also the movespeed makes any sort of play impossible

because if someone is low they can just hold w from you

[fossil sun]

sounds like youre just w keying in these fights

[silent spruce]

and you sound lke you're fighting ppl that die from footmans

[fossil sun]

nah

i just got semi decent spacing thats all

[silent spruce]

fuck is spacing gonna do when they hold w at you

[sturdy coral]

no it’s a skill issue to not corner, bait, or trap players

[fossil sun]

dk what ur talking about with plate fighters catching up to u, never once happened to me

[silent spruce]

even baiting ppl doesnt do anything lol

even if you somehow manage to get someone low they can again litteraly just hold w from you and theres nothing you can do about it

[sturdy coral]

tf is even your point lol you don’t even need to engage with it if you’re not good with it

[silent spruce]

a fucking wizard can kill you with minimum strenght by just hitting you with a torch lol

[fossil sun]

okay thats just straight up not true lol

[sturdy coral]

you realize if you’re an elite monster 1 headshot will chunk the wiz right?

[next epoch]

how come u talk as if everyone has an advantage over you and the whole world is literally out to get u
like if people can just hold w away from u then cant u just hold w away from them too?

[fossil sun]

ur spawning in as a fetus with a birth defect or sum

[silent spruce]

you're not hitting a wizard that know how to play with like 95% of mobs

and even if you do again they can litteraly just hold w and spam ranged attacks at you

[sturdy coral]

you severely overestimate the avg skill level of a normals player

[silent spruce]

the counter of 95% of faustain mobs is litteraly just holding s on ur keyboard

[fossil sun]

most players in norms dek how to kill cock

[sturdy coral]

it isn’t but go off king

[opal hill]

How much would wanderer atire with 4 physical power go for?

[fossil sun]

3k

[sturdy coral]

making all these points against Faustian like somebody’s holding you at gunpoint

[pallid hemlock]

theyre talking about Faustian bargain 💀

[silent spruce]

you cant

[sturdy coral]

get 50 damage or dealmaker kidnaps your family

[silent spruce]

you have like 70% movespeed lol

you cant outrun anyone for shit

[sturdy coral]

you’re not supposed to

[silent spruce]

even plate fighters are faster then you

[fossil sun]

cap

[silent spruce]

in what world do you go faster

most mobs are genuinly way too slow

[sturdy coral]

deadass hopeless hahahahahhaha

bro hasn’t played Faustian since they buffed it I think

[silent spruce]

i have

i have like 50 rep lol

[restive lichen]

Love the game

[sturdy coral]

You’re in NORMAL mode still tho like are you pretending atp?

[fossil sun]

ur a goblin, u run away, fighter sheathes his weapon, as soon as he does u turn around, jump and hit him in the head, then u turn back around and keep running. really not that hard my guy

[marble briar]

come watch me on twitch people https://www.twitch.tv/pointbreak81

[sturdy coral]

yea you surely are bc ur in here making all these points instead of the dedicated chat for it

[silent spruce]

the only mob thats remotly decent and also the fighter can litteraly outrun you with their weapon out

they dont need to unsheath their weapon

[sturdy coral]

cap

[fossil sun]

no they cant lol

[silent spruce]

and also they can litteraly just eat it and still kill you

[sturdy coral]

which is it?

[fossil sun]

if ur a skeleton footman yeah, not as anything else

[silent spruce]

and dont get me started on shields

[sturdy coral]

honestly atp I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the whole system

[fossil sun]

brother ur not supposed to be able to stomp the lobbies in faustian

[silent spruce]

considering last time i ambushed a sorcerer hit him 8 time and then get still get outmeleed by him i dont expect much from it

[fossil sun]

its a GIMMICK made to draw a small amount of attention back to the game as a fun little side-thing to lighten the mood for more casual players, thats literally it

[silent spruce]

gimmicks arent fun if the gameplay is getting stomped 24/7 and spending more then half the match to find someone just to get fireballed spammed

[fossil sun]

yk u can just... not do it right?

like its optional

[silent spruce]

what kind of argument is this

[fossil sun]

it's exactly what u just read

[silent spruce]

oh the mechanic is garbage just dont play it

[fossil sun]

I T I S O P T I O N A L

[silent spruce]

thats like complaining about saying like water map is awful

and saying just dont play it lol

[opal hill]

bro what is wrong with faustian bargain ???

[silent spruce]

or saying that a class is garbage and unfun

solution just dont play it

[fossil sun]

yeah, its subjective bud, some things arent for everyone

[silent spruce]

it really isnt

[silent spruce]

90% of mobs cant do anything you waste so much time finding ppl and you get punished for trying to do anything because everyone outruns you

[fossil sun]

u think ur smarter and got it all figured out and you alone know for a fact that faustian is bad, yes king we know

and no one else's opinion matters ofc

cause ur right

[silent spruce]

ur opinion doesnt matter when ur not even providing a proper argument

[fossil sun]

and it cant be subjective cause u said so

[opal hill]

okay but like, what if some players, like casual players, want something a little more chilling or what if they just dont care about waiting

[fossil sun]

neither are u bud

[opal hill]

its a fun funny option to goof off

[pallid hemlock]

youre starting to understand boof and goofer better