game-discussion

[left pagoda]

what’s the player count??

[storm cliff]

Nah wait for 5-6 weeks

[bold tendon]

2k

[fossil stream]

bruhhh ight

[storm cliff]

Welcome to Ironmace

[left pagoda]

tuff

[fast bone]

4.5k

[cosmic swan]

https://darkerdb.com/server-population

[onyx lotus]

@cosmic swan if only these monkeys were clear about what they are doing they wouldn't piss off the last bit of community they have left but they don't even know so how can they keep us a week or two ahead informed

[fossil stream]

im well aware I got 3k hours and I havnt touch this game since they added this garbage

[lime grove]

Anyone know when season rewards come out

[tough tree]

BringBackSolos

[fast bone]

when new season starts usually

[storm cliff]

Kim should react to this madness

[lime grove]

@fast bone makes sense lol just wasn't sure cause of midwipe bs

[cosmic swan]

That's the main issues, they don't know how to communicate and do things the wrong way. But the end goal is promising. If you'r interested that's how I interpreted what SDF said recently, and how I think they should have done things #game-discussion message

[crisp wren]

how do you guys buy kits quickly? I find myself gaining gold pretty quickly but also losing kits pretty quickly and having to build them again pretty often, and it's a long process

[astral dagger]

Ope complaining was less this afternoon. I'm glad I only payed 30 dollars for 100s of hours of content....some good some bad...." I wonder what's in that chest" and " let's try and kill everyone" is a good time most days on this game

[median holly]

Is either a yes or no question but i get what you mean reading the other messages

[bold tendon]

And what do we get out of it?

[cosmic swan]

Sry, what do you mean?

[storm cliff]

Is skull key still in game? And the skull Doors?

[ionic nest]

these random stats favor the ones who play for longer hours

[bold tendon]

Has anything changed since you said that?

[median holly]

People complaining about what they paid for DAD but they pay 80-100dlls for some triple A trash that they don't even play for 100hours

[analog rampart]

How so?

[ionic nest]

in order to get a kit with top stats, you have to naturally play longer because its a chance on getting the higher rolls

[analog rampart]

Playing longer gives you a higher chance at better roll? No.

[errant field]

@glad thunder Make this DND-oriented game, sit back, and watch your fortune grow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOLsOmv-CCc&ab_channel=Renown

[radiant notch]

wow u are not smart just make money and buy the rolls u want

[ionic nest]

to roll a new stat, you need a gem, to get a gem/gear you have to get gold, which requires time

[analog rampart]

No.... Play the game and farm gear.

[radiant notch]

you make money and buy good rolls wtf r u talking abt it

[ionic nest]

and top tier stat items seem to be quite expensive generally

[analog rampart]

That will give you gems in the process called " Looting ".

[onyx lotus]

Well hopefully they learn after this is dead in another year of their success and failures for their next game to invest the money they got from this in or the studio name of ironmace will be a poopy piece of toilet paper forever and he's gonna have to beg for a job back at nexon

[cosmic swan]

No? But that won't stop me to make suggestion and try to understand what they're doing. Also I talked with Chyunkus (one of IM community coordinator) and he had the same conclusion than me, SDF is trying to shift the end goal/main things to do in the game from PvP and gear farming to wealth and using that in gold sink and system like guilds and stuff. But read this #game-discussion message if you're really interested in the conversation

[bold tendon]

or he can wear gear for lucky

[radiant notch]

OMFG WHERE TF IS SOLOS THE GEAR IS ACTUALLY IN A GOOD SPOT FOR SOLOS BRO

[blazing sedge]

you can go into HR, loot the outside corner you spawn in and make 1000gold and exit there every 8 minutes (granted you live) if you spawn graveyard chances are you are going to get rushed so leave that area, pve mode can make thousands of gold easily with no risk to buy good pvp gear

[ionic nest]

ya thats what i mean, it just lengthens the process of getting best in slot items really

[radiant notch]

can they pls just hotfix the game rn and add solos back

[analog rampart]

Man, you can't just expect to be handed the gear and gems for top tier stuff. You have to play, farm and quest. 😄

[radiant notch]

1v3ing is miserable 2v3ing is miserable and 3v3ing is miserable just add 1v1s back

[ionic nest]

of course, but how much time is the thing to consider

[bold tendon]

damn yes

[analog rampart]

The better you play, the easier your chances. More dungeons = More loot.

[radiant notch]

they make the only mode trios when 3v3ing is the most boring aspect of the game

[blazing sedge]

just add 1v1 arena mode for the people who want to 1v1 pvp? idk

[ionic nest]

back to my original thought, this gearing structure favors those who have more time to play really

[iron frost]

i need my ass wiped

[blazing obsidian]

you mean ALMOST everyone?

[radiant notch]

bro the 1v1 pvp is fun not only bc of mechanics but bc its rewarding and its an extractionnn game 1v1 arena would get boring

[onyx lotus]

Then he's even more of a monkey cause pvp and arena brings in the most player base not a bunch of rp gold sinks, ask wow players how rewarding that feels, garbage gold sinks

[analog rampart]

Then find a different man, no one is forcing you play it. No hard feelings. 😄

[glass stratus]

buff rogue weapons

[radiant notch]

RIGHT its everyone in the game we ust need solos

[bold tendon]

where?

[ionic nest]

I know that, but shouldn't I be able to play what I enjoy? I enjoy pvp however it's not for those who can get a set and enjoy it, bit for those to spend many waking hours grinding for that set

[cosmic swan]

Yeah, no. The game sold 1 millions copy selling a PvPvE dungeon crawler. We're done to 4k after two year of focusing only pleasing PvP player and doing balance doing nothing to improve the Dungeon crawler/Adventure side of the game. "The most player base" is people who have left the game because it was focused on PvP

[analog rampart]

If you can't do the time, don't do the grind. Find ways around their gear and stats. Maybe do rouge as pickpocketer

[glass stratus]

tbh not sure, I just know they nerfed rogue vigor, nerfed daggers to the same porportion as other weapons, but then buffed all the other weapons back to where they were and didnt touch rogue. I feel like the class is being forgotton

[chrome vine]

rogue shouldn't be able to go toe-to-toe, more of a hit-and-run kinda vibe. or surpirse attack/sneak attack

[nocturne pasture]

this gear is so shit. bring back a closing circle and overpowered gear. the game was at an all time high of players and fun when gear was really strong, not this +0.5 and +1% shit

[bold tendon]

smth decreased smth increased

[lyric creek]

if i walk up to you in the store and shank you 2-3 times with a knife. you aint walking out of that place alive.
that being said, now I have to hit you with that same knife 5 times for you to be alive when I get hit once or twice
after I have to pull out my non returnable throwing knives and land 1/2 of them ontop of my crossbow bolt
oh and um cause the damage balance changes, I now do less damage with my low tier knife, as well as you can move as fast as I can cause of the agility gear mods

[onyx lotus]

No we're down to 4k cause of back and forth monkey decisions, appease streamers then back to the community then the vision and back and forth and instead of just doing numbers work like a lot of YouTubers did for him but he doesn't like making games based off of logical math with balance gear

[near jasper]

So how's the patch? Haven't tried it and wondering what the community thinks.

[ionic nest]

Perhaps, it's really just my 2 cents, if there was less rng on the stat you get when geming, it would give us all the best of both worlds

[radiant notch]

lets be completely clear we're down 4k 90% bc of removed solos

[onyx lotus]

The appeasing streamers/community/cashflow/vision/ just logical basic math got sdf all confused on priorities so the back and forth is where we are at

[cosmic swan]

Better but HTK/TTK is still to low and we need Solo queue back

[near jasper]

Yeah I agree I want solos back

[west rose]

when is it gonna wipe already i wanna play

[cosmic swan]

Go play, the wipe is planned for late august

[radiant notch]

BROOO SOLOS WOULD EB SO GOATED RN W NO MOVEPSEED OR HEALTH ROLLSSS

[plush trellis]

I havent played this game in like 7 months how do i see what map has a solo

[west rose]

wait so theirs no wipe today?

[radiant notch]

none of them, do!!!!!!!!!!! only trios!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!

[lyric creek]

dont need movespeed rolls or hp rolls... they just roll vigor+agility on all the other gear to still be as strong and max ms

[cosmic swan]

No, they never said that. The timer was the begining of this season, as usual one or two week after the wipe

[plush trellis]

are you serious, this game is dead

[radiant notch]

bro its fucking crazy

[full nacelle]

i like the game in general hitting ppl is fun

[west rose]

ohhhh

[idle whale]

can’t wait to go home and hop in arena

[cosmic swan]

With no kit ready xD

[radiant notch]

on the bright side theyre gonna bring it back if were vocal enough

[plush trellis]

got my barb to lvl 200 for nothing i guess

[idle whale]

already built 2 kits

[cosmic swan]

Found by?

[chrome vine]

if i have decent armor on, that makes sense, unless you are running some armor pen perks/skill. for any class that doesn't have armor, yeah 5 hits or so should take them out. obvs less with headshots

do you really want landmine rogue to come back, shit is so ridiculous to deal with

[idle whale]

Yea just need a bow for my ranger, all gemmed too, and i got warlock ungemmed no book both full purples and like one legendary

[subtle heart]

I deinstalled the Game and will never Touch IT again such a Trash and such a scam i only saw IT before in the Game dungenborne the exact Same happens here right now

[cosmic swan]

Nice, gj

[radiant notch]

3v3 is actually just spamming spells and then when its a 3v1 the barb can push

[jolly musk]

wait is arena self found again?

[idle whale]

Ty, u gonna be doing arena? should be mostly purples and random since it’s early on but imma hate having to try and get full crafted if i want to climb

[cosmic swan]

I'm trying to do a Ranger 65 CDR surv bow with forcefull push and the 50% action speed skill. Did that last season it was great. But in found by it's going to be hard to build; it require a lot of stat with near perfect roll on ressourcefulness and cooldown reduction bonus

[idle whale]

I don’t think it’s possible to build that much anymore but u could get close i’m new to ranger so i wanted to try it to practice tbh i usually play barb

[cosmic swan]

Yeah i'll try to be as close as possible. but in the same time legendary and epic gear have 1 more point on base stat so it might help. Unfortunately you can't gem cooldown reduction bonus for some reason, it was the same last season almost like they forgot to add it

[trail ibex]

When you get a melee weapon with extra true magic damage, say a longbow, does it always apply? Or do you need to have a buff granting magic damage?

[cosmic swan]

No, only if you manage to do magic damage. Like if a wizard Ignite you

[trail ibex]

Cringe.
I miss patch 68 too much

[cosmic swan]

We're pretty close to patch 68 honestly. Without solo queue unfortunately

[idle whale]

can’t u gem resourcefulness tho?

[cosmic swan]

Yes but to get to the CDR cap (65%) you pretty much need to stack both

[idle whale]

i thought it would increase things like cleric’s smite ability no? really?

[radiant notch]

bro if they brought solos back w these random mods itd actually heal the game not trolling

[mild sinew]

game is saved imo, i can live with trios

[idle whale]

ah i see

[radiant notch]

3v3 is so miserablee

[hexed burrow]

they should get rid of the unique tier or something, squish it a bit

[trail ibex]

Kinda but the non base stat rolls have never been weaker and everyones base health nerf still hasnt been reveted. Also rogue is still unplayable on squire gear on account of having 6 base vigour, iirc not even wizard has vigor that low.

[cosmic swan]

Exactly, then you start working on improving the gameplay loop, adding the guilds and hideout system SDF talked about recently. Then some new perk and skill for the class you lack them, or better a talent tree/sub class system not this bullshit multiclass

[radiant notch]

all sdf needs to do is just bring back solos (even for the time being) while they work on how to integrate it into trios

[cosmic swan]

Yeah the low HTK/TTK is so bad. Imo the game would so much more interesting with high TTK

[polar zenith]

[cosmic swan]

[trail ibex]

Literally revert all the semi wipe changes except there are no rolls on movespeed, true damage and all attributes, and the playerbase will come back.

Guilds are secondary.

[radiant notch]

hotfix, add solos back with 2 lines of code and we double the playercount

[median holly]

The problem is that high HTK/TTK will make trios basically a dps and two healers, they should aim for the middle, something like a barb can't survive 3 people hitting him while people heal him

[polar zenith]

there is no saving this game, everyone that would play it has already lost all their faith

[trail ibex]

Like im not joking when i say i'd play nothing but this game for the rest of my life if they brought us back to patch 68 but with all present content.

[cosmic swan]

Imo guilds should be the main focus. The gameplay loop is the same for the past 2 year. It start to be boring and that's why the player count keep dropping again and again. They need to add more to the gameplay loop, not nescessary soon, but we need to know it's being worked on, and what are they doing

[sonic maple]

Everyone's opinion differ

[marble ember]

What’s the player count rn

[trail ibex]

Guilds wont modify the gameplay loop. I mean what would they change?
It's not like they would come with a duel zone where people would 1v1 each other without item loss like it's a chivarly/mordhau server.

[cosmic swan]

True, a counter to that would be to add some anti heal mechanic that everyone can have, like a consumable or maybe the explosive bottle

[polar zenith]

3200 on steam

[trail ibex]

My radical belief is that magic healing rolls should be removed and magic it scale slightly with magic power instead.

Even if you reserve those rolls to rings and necklaces it can still get a bit nuts.

[cosmic swan]

Why not? It's a long message but here's how I see guilds #game-discussion message. It would ask for you to farm for gold to improve it. And they'll need to make some new point of interest to gather ressources and gold, some chill, some hardcore, some around PvP

[near jasper]

Nice thanks for your feedback

[trail ibex]

Just because you have another gold sink doesnt mean it will change what you do on the dungeon. You'll have more ends but the means to that end will remain the same. And rn thay means is just doing whatever grants you do the most gold at that time.

[strange trellis]

Anyone still having issues being stuck on the loading screen when going through a red portal? Has happend to my entire team now both in ice and crypts

[cosmic swan]

True, but a new motivation can't be bad. And as I said, yes, it will need new point of interest in the dungeon that reward you with gold and ressources to improve you guilds and hideout. Stuff like that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem
And a couple more idea ⁠#suggestion-discussion message⁠. Also check this post for Ryan6DayAWeek http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx00hDrShuojGCSAORfzR3tVmY0YR-lFaY?si=ZUUL1u4kH6-95fUl

[dapper mortar]

@fleet imp There is a bug where you lose stuff in arena after the match lost 2 sets

[ivory wind]

wow this game gets updates:? people still play? must be chinese gold farmers and like the 4 whales left buying all the fulgors on G2A

[trail ibex]

My bandaid suggestions to how you'd change the means to that end, i.e. the gameplay loop, would be to have systems requiring you to gift someone/something specific hunting loot (like grave essence) or whatever is the group for sell only items like bangles and chalices to progress.
You could add more points of interest on the map like another pile room like you have on what used to be the centre of ice caves, but I would prefer something more interactible like a unique NPC that may or may not be controllable by a player that would go around looting chests, opening doors, while leaving a trail of completely random loot, and if people failed to kill him fast enough upon being aggravated he would summon a portal and leave.

Or hell maybe add a rare module that would summon a shitton of mobs on activation and those mobs would rampage across the map looking for players to kill. Something to make a little chaos and reward you if you manage to overcome it.

[cursive sparrow]

Did game wipe?

[trail ibex]

Problem is getting devs to listen and agree

[cosmic swan]

A loot goblin, yes that would be one good point of interest. They talked about it for the longest time now but for some reason never added it (It shouldn't be that hard do to)

[trail ibex]

Two weeks ago it had a semi wipe. Items are gone but quest progression is still here

[mint sail]

will it wipe again soon?

[cosmic swan]

This, this is the main issues. If they listened that would have been in the game since a long time now

[trail ibex]

If they ever add the loot goblin its queueing should be completly random. As in its not telling you which map it will land you, im not even sure if it should tell you wether it will land you in a normals map, high roller or Adventure mode.

Actually nevermind, an adventure mode loot goblin experience would suck.

[inner terrace]

Wasn't it supposed to wipe?

[cosmic swan]

Fuck adventure mode honestly, it's a tutorial they should have the bare minimum. You shouldn't be able to farm anything important, like ore etc

[golden yacht]

hows the patch homies?

[trail ibex]

Aside from no solos, its just okay.

I dont understand why they nerf all random rolls except for the base stats where you can still roll up to 3 strength for example

[mint sail]

back to what it was before

[golden yacht]

i miss solos and duos.. 🥲

[trail ibex]

I dont understand the devs, if they're so concerned about dead lobbies they should bring back the map rotation like it was wipe 3 but instead of 5 minutes to rotate make it 1 hour.

Solos players will thank you because you can hop as a solo on a trios lobby and they will team as they progress through the match.

[lone girder]

no wipe???????

[trail ibex]

Adventure mode should stay, alot of people would leave if it was removed but I agree that loot goblin shouldnt exist in that mode.

[trail ibex]

It was supposed to semi wipe and it did. Official wipe was postponed indefinitely until the devs decide when it should commence.

[mental wolf]

Hey dose anybody know if they re added random modifiers

[cosmic swan]

It's too late for that because we don't have enough player anymore but instead of the adventure mode the game should have had the Tutorial map they talked about like a year ago (The Sewer), that on top of the Rookie lobby they tried at some point, with a bit of tweaking it would have been great. You shouldn't learn the game without the PvP, it's part of it. And honestly when you PvP against other noob learning the game it's pretty fun and chaotic it's part of what make the game's charm

[trail ibex]

For random map events, id honestly like to see something like a seperate SSF mode because the beggining of this wipe (not the semi wipe) was the most fun I've ever had in this game and im someone who began playing mid wipe 3.

[trail ibex]

Rookie lobbies are a bad idea.

[cosmic swan]

The game should be SSF honestly. The marketplace should be for potion, ore, pelt etc only

[cosmic swan]

Why? (I kinda need to go to sleep but the conversation is interesting xD And that's pretty rare recently)

[trail ibex]

I can see where you're getting at but i disagree, it would make getting certain items utterly non viable and certain crafts would go completely unused.

[cosmic swan]

With a good rework on merchant on craft (maybe through the hideout system) that would be awesome imo

Making merchant more interesting, and craft used more diverse item

[trail ibex]

Idk how to say this without the auto censor. But re al mon ey traders with giga BIS would be 90% of the playerbase and i think it was Toddfather who made a video showing it was the case and how it would scare away timmies permanantly.

It would also make most of the items found in raid useless to the player

Tbf i should sleep too.

[inland bloom]

did they add solos back?

[cosmic swan]

(Your talking of Rookie lobby right?)
Yeah that's an issue, but limit it to white gear or green and make it so it's not interesting at all to loot there

[trail ibex]

No, only random modifiers

[cosmic swan]

Yeah if you want we can continue this tomorrow xD Answer this message tomorrow. Good night

[trail ibex]

I'd prefer a gear score grade limit, of i you surpassed said limit you could only bring greens. Also i PM'd you a message because it was taking too long to re enable sending messages on here.

Good night

[median holly]

[polar parrot]

put the duo mode... or are you broke as a player and can't do it? 3x2 is difficult.......

[stray otter]

When is wipe ?

[lone girder]

true, when?

[astral light]

what’s player count looking like i’m curious

[full creek]

I was just abt to ask the same thing on feel like logging into this shit ass game

[worn crow]

2683 in dung and 2200 lobby

[cold wraith]

When’s wipe?

[restive sand]

does anyone know any knock off competitors? I just want to try them out and record some runs. I love dark and darker

please add me and msg me if you understand wha t im asking

[lyric grove]

interact with 15 wall spikes, 15 axe traps, and 15 floor spikes. @sdf who tf is making these dumb quests no one wants to run around on rogue for 2 hours like wtf

[safe moat]

WHEN TF IS MAIN WIPEEEEEEEEE ;-;

[rapid vine]

THE ANNOUNCEMENT SAID IT'S LATE AUGUST! *SLAPS YOUR FACE.

[nova jetty]

Why the fuck did you make arena SSF and only give us 2 day's notice beforehand? That's a start of wipe change, not a mid wipe change. You literally said you learned your lesson from mid-wipe changes like that in the kitchen. @glad thunder going back on his word already.

[safe moat]

;-; I DIDNT SEE IT TY

[balmy ledge]

Why do you sound surprised?

[graceful mantle]

tf late august

[glass stratus]

I just want sorcerer to be less strong

[lone girder]

what ad?

[graceful mantle]

@rapid vine post link? im not seeing it

[nova jetty]

@glad thunder Remove SSF from arena until start of next wipe.

[graceful mantle]

yes

[viral mango]

ARE THEY COOKING AGAIN?>

game fun? or nah

[graceful mantle]

mid

[rapid vine]

*SLAPS YOUR FACE FOR NOT PUTTING UR EFFORT TO READ!! HERE! #📢announcements message UGH

[balmy ledge]

They literally removed fun again.

[viral mango]

thats better than before

[nova jetty]

@sdf remove SSF from arean till next wipe.

[graceful mantle]

XD
thanks

[coral thistle]

PLEASE DONT TOUCH GEAR AGAIN PLEASE DONT TOUCH GEAR AGAIN PLEASE DONT TOUCH GEAR AGAIN PLEASE DONT TOUCH GEAR AGAIN

[clear cedar]

Metin2 ass quests

[nova jetty]

@glad thunder Remove SSF from Arena until NEXT wipe. That is not a change that you do mid-wipe. You just shit on your player's progression once again. You said in the kitchen you wouldn't do that anymore.

[coral thistle]

Arena should have always been ssf

Also “progression” lmao you changed the color of your squire kit we didnt have rolls

[nova jetty]

Yes, i agree. But mid-wipe changing it, with very little warning, is ridiculous.

[hybrid raven]

what a horrible thing youve done to my occultist hood and arena

[hybrid raven]

my homie just got his full uni kit and cant even run it now xD

[lament grove]

surprise surprise

[nova jetty]

@glad thunder Revert SSF arena change. Bring it back next wipe. Stop messing with our progression mid-wipe.

[storm reef]

Patch feels like crap. Squire kit is useless People play norms to pvp you need gear to play norms......

[nimble hearth]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow Update test server already.
Stop being lazy and push the newest patch to test server

[somber gyro]

2.6k in dungeon and 2.1k in lobby

[viscid pumice]

What does memory capacity do? When I equipped it in lobby I still had 12/9 in spell memory

[quasi juniper]

Yo why are there no nametags

[viscid pumice]

Btw unique spell book +4 spell memory, +1 true magical damage, 2.6% interaction speed, 2.7% debuff duration, 1.9% action speed. Is that biss for warlock?

[next epoch]

if it's on a spellbook you won't notice any changes on the character sheet since you have to have the book out first in order to get the memory capacity. youll notice it when you go in game.

[viscid pumice]

Thanks my man, can u by any chance tell me if my spell book is biss or something

[last garden]

this game is trash yall have ruined DaD.........

[wraith wigeon]

skill issue

[storm reef]

game feels like shit endless amount of teams loading into games. Feels like escaping is a matter of luck

[last garden]

its not the interactions with players its the lack of consistency. And major game breaking changes this far in a season. MAKE UR MIND UP WITH WHAT YOUR TRYING TO DO FOR THE PLAYER BASE BEFORE THERE ARE NON LEFT

[slow crest]

What they're doing rn legit tracks though. They removed all rolls, now added more with extreme limitations. Gear is way tuned down compared to before, and they are likely going to continue increasing the potency at least a little more. They started from 0 because they were having a hard time gauging what was needed... im surprised by the choice to go back on the vig changes and headshot changes, but otherwise I think this patch is a step in the right direction

[last garden]

let me dial in my complaints because im logged and currently playing the game

[slow crest]

I mean if anything that means youre the guy to complain lowkey lol

[wet barn]

Games as s simply put

[glossy plaza]

PICKPOCKET rOGUE IS BACK

[last garden]

your not wrong. I'm just surprised what they did with arena changing to crafted/found this late in a season after a soft wipe. I've played over 2500 hours in this game im allowed to have complaints with the amount of time ive invested.

[wet barn]

Yea ssf is cool but at the start not like this it's jest evil

[slow crest]

Gear drop rates are crazy rn tho tbf and finding bis is easy when every roll is mid lol

[last garden]

agreed and money is easy to make i think they jsut underestimate how many people are playing arena each week

[grave veldt]

does wipe not reset character level anymore?

[last garden]

this wasnt a true wipe

[slow crest]

It does but this was a "soft wipe"

[grave veldt]

ohhh that makes sense ok

when will hard wipe be?

[hybrid quartz]

i think game is worse now since the patch. no random modifiers!

[manic ice]

sdf folded but the game is so far dead and he killed 70% of the player base just by getting rid of solo and duo its never gonna come back

[last garden]

they brought the rolled stats back

[unreal agate]

Why is solo and duo still not back, devs ok? They are trying to now BALANCE THE GAME SO SOLOS CAN 1v3 ????? DID YALL READY SDF KITCHE LOOOOL YOU CANT BALANCE IT SO SOLOS CAN 1v3

[hybrid quartz]

yeah the game is better without random modifiers

[last garden]

exactly this couldnt of said it better

my unique kit ive been grinding for and spent all my gold is useless now

[balmy ledge]

so useless.. literally most epics are better than what mine rolled

[golden oasis]

New patch is just an old patch with lower health pools. Didn't fix any of the issues lol. Once agin SDF proves he doesn't belong in the dev world

[unreal agate]

Why would you play this passed 2 weeks when the player counts been 1.5k..

[last garden]

we almost always play dad bro. Its our favorite game in rotation for like 2 years lol

ill hold my breath

[cunning mauve]

The game WAS fun. But im ginna need to see common and rare normals again. Theres no way im finding full legendary builds in normals rn as a squire kit. Thats just outrageous

[unreal agate]

Erm 90% of the player base literally quit, I don’t think ‘we almost always play, it’s our favourite game in rotation’ counts in this case lol

[last garden]

run high roller its what weve been doing easily made over 30k the last 3 days

[cunning mauve]

Idc about money atp kits are dumb. I want my squire kit commons back where i cant bring in a epic kit 🙏

[bold tendon]

ur right. i love this game, but this game dont love us

[unreal agate]

HAHAHA so true

[arctic cloak]

i came back for nothing

[storm reef]

Damn...... Sucks to say good bye. Was a good run

[unreal agate]

I only hope sdf comes to his senses and reverts to patch #68 when the new wipe begins in a couple of weeks. And adds new content

[pallid osprey]

imagine bringing back the one thing that breaks ur game......... only tavern... only DnD

[stray otter]

Wait so high roller doesn’t have solos or duos anymore ?

[pallid osprey]

welcome to dark and darker everyone its a little FKD atm but its ok we love it

[last garden]

remember the good ol days with pre lobbies xD

[stray otter]

I feel so lost I don’t get it it’s like forcing everyone to play squads in Fortnite

[pallid osprey]

omg please

[unreal agate]

No. You can play solos in trio lobby’s only, have fun 1v3. Im not joking

[stray otter]

Hmm I sometimes take 1v3 but then I get 3rd party

[unreal agate]

Im going bed, say good night to me dark and darker community

[willow terrace]

Games population reduced to barely 3k a day 😔

[last garden]

i mean i generally have good luck when we cue solo or duo in the hr

[stray otter]

Gn

[last garden]

goodnight sweetheart

[floral swift]

When are we getting solos back?

[last garden]

your guess is as good as mine

[willow terrace]

honestly game to me is just all over the place on what it wants to be. SDF needs to lock in and actually do shit

[floral swift]

I just want solos back

[willow terrace]

same honestly

[crisp remnant]

Eyo ppl, is it just me or are bear druids annihilating everything?

[ancient hinge]

yes health lowered and head shots do more now

[dire hare]

WHY BUFF LONGSWORD PARRY IT SHOULD NOT KILL IN 1 EFFING COMBO

[low flame]

ofcourse it should

[wet barn]

@dire hare cope

[dire hare]

yall clearly know im right just wait until it happens to you lol

[stiff talon]

if you get double riposted its a skill issue lil bro

[toxic socket]

JUDGEMENT ROAD IS SO BAD I HOPE WHOEVER MADE THAT DIES

[small marsh]

What's the fucking point of adding a teaming mechanic if everyone, including other solos, are just going to dome you for using it

[rustic socket]

game still cooked. everyone just leave this game in the past and hope it shuts down se we dont torment ourselves anymore.

[wicked notch]

lol random modifiers back in the game does not make me want to play again, good job with the vision

[small vault]

why did they add random mods back, what was the point of removing them in the first place if they are just going to add them back later

[small marsh]

beats me

[flat pier]

Why are they still focusing on balance after this long who actually cares about it short term WE WANT SOLOS/DUOS and MORE CONTENT

[wicked notch]

they removed it and add it back so that people dont waste their time on incompetent game dev

[novel widget]

What did you do with the game? NO MORE SOLO? Why do I have to play with randoms? FCKKKKKKKKKKKK

[fathom cove]

game is dead no solo and no rank oO

[azure panther]

anyone know what % reductions the goblin caves dummy has?

[devout yoke]

Can’t load into arena with marketplace gear is fkin trash

[small marsh]

Look I love this game, I love it to death, I want it to do well, so believe me when I say that if max HP or MS ever come back to random rolls, I am fucking done

[compact hollow]

@glad thunder give bard bardiche

[wispy pilot]

@glad thunder #GiveBardBardiche

[opal creek]

wait... so is there not a wipe?

[wispy pilot]

#WEWANTBARDICHEONBARD

[compact hollow]

GIVE BARD BARDICHE

[wispy pilot]

@glad thunder tell me one reason bard shoudnt have bardiche

[dire hare]

@glad thunder GIVE BARD BARDICHE

[wispy pilot]

BARDiche

[compact hollow]

@glad thunder Give bard bardiche!

[radiant furnace]

why make arenas self found again

[narrow oak]

When is wipe

[radiant furnace]

doesnt matter no one will play anyways

[deep bridge]

Give back solos and duos 😦

[gray rivet]

no solos absolutely FUCKING sucks, cmon use your brain @glad thunder @zinc sparrow even if its highroller only add that shit

[south wave]

plz bring back solos

[thick quartz]

Well at least we're back to only complaining about solo/duo's not existing lol, besides that the new patch was in the right direction

[wispy pilot]

#JUSTICEFORBARDWITHBARDICHE

[compact hollow]

@glad thunder give bard bardiche!

[small marsh]

Speak for yourself brother this shit fucking sucks

Random mods did not need to be added back in pretty much identical format as to last time

[thick quartz]

Pretty sure most people like the random mods, sorry you're in the minority there but I thought the problem was that the rolls were too powerful. What's the issue when they're nerfing the rolls on random mods?

[alpine nexus]

bring back solo and duo and the game numbers will go back up alot more

[thick quartz]

Also if you look around, you see way more people wanting solo/duo's back then crying about them adding random mods back in LOL so idk what to tell you

[radiant furnace]

youre the only person that liked the no mods lol

[thorn glen]

I liked the no mods too 🤷‍♂️ . Would've been nice if we had a skill tree available while they tested it.

[trail pumice]

When is wipe

[radiant furnace]

stale 3 seconds of content with no mods had a bis kit quite literally 2nd raid i played this wipe

[thorn glen]

You didn't have a full Unique kit and artifact weapons within 2 raids my dude. Gear absolutely still made a difference with no mods. Or Dexterity gear would've been dirt cheap.

[thick quartz]

Well there's always gonna be a few contrarians like you, it's okay to fantasize what you'd personally want the game to be

[radiant furnace]

full legendary kit 2nd raid is what i meant. unique and artifact took like 10 raids my bad. horrible opinion by u and glad you are not on the dev team

[small marsh]

I'm in a Discord with at least 60 people in it and random mods are very rarely something that people are asking for.

[radiant furnace]

probably a bunch of new players that dont even go HR

[opal creek]

so is there not a wipe?

[left pagoda]

yall are timmy’s then who don’t have more that 100 hours in the game, the game isn’t for your kind.

[thick quartz]

Weird how you ignored my other message about everyone asking for solo/duo but came back to be one of two people in the chat complaining about random mods LOL

[subtle shore]

you would think they would revert back to Solos lobbies with the massive drop but nope

[whole acorn]

thats not very nice, be nice please

[thick quartz]

They really are, I'm sure there are other games for them that cater to whatever they think this game "should be"

[left pagoda]

all they want is pvp with a 1 shot method, they ruin the game.

[small marsh]

I have 700 hours in the game

[thorn glen]

Horrible opinion on Gear still making a difference without random modifiers? What? That's just facts my dude lol. I haven't complained about random modifiers returning, I just said I enjoyed the game without them. Would've been a better test with supporting content.

[left pagoda]

probably only run grey gear

[thick quartz]

I know lol, plenty of other games like that they can play already

[small marsh]

You probably only run bis kits to gearstomp timmies, and?

[thick quartz]

You have a dude right above you complaining about the existence of random rolls

[left pagoda]

i wear gear to hunt artifact players and run boss, we aren’t the same.

[rigid vault]

yes

[small marsh]

LOL yeah fucking right

[left pagoda]

just say you aren’t good at the game, stay in your grey lobbies buddy.

[rigid vault]

dont diss me bub

[small marsh]

I genuinely don't care - you people ruined what the game could have been a long time ago and I hope you all rot

[left pagoda]

sure sure, go play fortnite.

[rigid vault]

this

[cursive venture]

Sooooo solo back?

[cyan spindle]

Bitcoin up

[paper mulch]

crow a garden 2 times money now

[open widget]

bye bye dark and darker

[tropic sandal]

haven't played, how is patch?

[paper mulch]

is there a wipe ??

[opal creek]

I am trying to figure this out myself, like the semi wipe I thought was supposed to be two weeks before today the real wipe

[subtle heart]

wipe ??

[paper mulch]

what type off drugs the devs use ??

[pale lintel]

are plus 1 all attribuits gone?

[mystic sky]

I'd like to know that

[paper mulch]

yea thats some good ass shit

[clear cedar]

So full circle and people tired of it, want to see real content and not some small change like modules

[fading garnet]

Yes also ms and max hp

[inland agate]

so random mods are back?

[granite copper]

wait do we lose our items in arena now ?

[sturdy fable]

If you didn't find the items yourself or craft them yourself, then yes

[granite copper]

thats so boring holy

[balmy ledge]

You thought you could play the game and just have fun? HA Think again!

[granite copper]

at this point im starting to hate this fucking guy like every choice just makes it more unplayable

[inner marsh]

[granite copper]

ive tried to just enjoy it for what it is but its just so many boring decisions

[balmy ledge]

[cursive venture]

Dude needs to stop saying solo queue works against trios... this shiii asssssss

[stiff talon]

if you think non minted arena was better you actual need mental help

[granite copper]

was gas if you arent cheeks at the game

[stiff talon]

you think its good for the game that you could risk free farm gold in pve, to buy a kit to brainlessly pvp in a limited time mode, never play the game never go in a dungeon never extract never have to earn gear ?

[granite copper]

yeah it was fun

[inner marsh]

That...was the entire point of arena

[granite copper]

bingoooooo

[inner marsh]

Arena was initially made as a way to get better at pvp without gear fear or economical setbacks

Whatever the vision devolved into doesn't change what the vision started as

[green mortar]

When do we get our high roller rewards? I dunno what’s going on anymore lol

[stiff talon]

the whole play of the gameplay loop and progression is that u go into the dungeon have to get out to get gear and people who played more/got lucky SHOULD have an advantage as a result. people buying gear to play spam a game mode that isn't the actual game ( most of which cough cough "bought" gear$$ is a problem dont u think 😂

[granite copper]

no its not a problem at all it was fun and now its boring '

[stiff talon]

the game is an extraction game its not search and destroy cod best of 5

[granite copper]

nobody said it was you are arguing with yourself here dude

[inner marsh]

Which is horrible for anyone wanting to get better at the game since it would just mean you are forced back to re-grind, which caused a lot of player frustration.

As such the reason that was GIVEN to create arena as a solution to that problem, now that it isn't, people are just gonna play the extraction or market instead, or up and leave seen player counts

The guys in moderation don't like it when we bypass filters to talk about those issues

[stiff talon]

no you got better at the game by playing the game. as it should be in games. not this 2025 spoonfed spamfest

[rapid owl]

does anybody know wether or not areans is only gear u find yourself or is it all gear?

[naive grail]

What quick-link does?

[inner marsh]

Arena is part of the game. Giving players an enviroment to learn pvp without risks benefits skill level greatly and avoids frustrations that may make newcomers just...quit the game because the difficulty cliff

Extraction games are also more new than arena shooters which were the basis of online pvp

[hearty marlin]

Pretty sure we had other online game types before arena shooters.

[humble wave]

self found and crafted

[inner marsh]

Technically fighters with arcades are first.

But online pvp got big with unreal arena and halo

[rapid owl]

only gear u find or crafted gear?

[humble wave]

yes

[stiff talon]

yes exactly its part of the game and should be part of the reason you PLAY THE ACTUAL GAME and have progression and extract in dungeons. playing a few games or pve and then retiring the dungeon to only play arena when arena is out was entirely the problem with why most lobbies were dead because you had NO REASON TO PLAY THE GAME

[granite copper]

you guys have to play the game how i say 🤓

[rapid owl]

damnnnnnn lol okay ty i just couldnt understand what they were saying if it was or wasnt in the patch notes

[fresh bay]

ngl i thought lobbies got more dead when arena was introduced, i hate it just takes ppl out of the main game, low on players as it is, we a dungeon crawler why we tryna copy tarkov

[inner marsh]

Or perhaps hear me out.

People got tired of "the game" and prefered to play arenas because they were more engaging

So instead of going back to the now extremely stale rotatory door of features, we rather quit, man we have 2k players and at this point MORDHAU a game without patchie in 3 years is doing better

[keen hatch]

sorc op remove them entirely

[solid talon]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-red-sus-19dollar-fortnite-card-gif-23706442

[limber pumice]

sdf mains sorc he can't remove them

[granite copper]

but thats not the game dude 🤓

[hearty marlin]

Well, maybe @glad thunder should give us an actual vision for what the game is then lol

[fresh bay]

vision is a steaming junk pile

[thorn glen]

We've been playing the dungeon/loot/extract loop for 3 years already. Eventually people are gonna get bored. Arena was the change to that 3 year old gameplay loop.

[inner marsh]

You think the devs have an idea on what they want as a game?

[granite copper]

yeah exactly

[stiff talon]

hence why i've essentially said "meant to be" when referring to the gameplay loop, i disagree with alot of the changes in general but in essence the game is an extraction game and that should be the emphasis and reason people play. if league of legends had more people playing arena then summoners rift dont see that as a problem?. im not arguing that it isnt stale or anything like that, but the progression is more logical and makes more sense that u earn better gear to use better gear and it fundamentally should not be anyone can buy anything and play a mode that isnt the real game

[small quartz]

i thought everything was resetting im confusion

[hearty marlin]

Well that's why I ask for an actual vision lol but I know I am asking a lot with that

[fresh bay]

they just make too many drastic changes all the time, its always mental like CRAZY attribute buffs then all of a sudden 0 ATTRis at all, complete massive swings

[inner marsh]

It's an additional gamemode divorced of the main loop to not get burnt out of dungeon that people were enjoying it

Making it just dungeon 2.0 risk wise is gonna just make people not play the game as they were already burnt and those that want to learn pvp will also just quit.

The game has been extremely newplayer unfriendly and as such the playerbase is getting critical, 1.5k atm less than Mordhau

[static field]

please js add solo q

[hearty marlin]

Solo Q and new leadership*

[stiff talon]

exactly you learn pvp by their being more people in the dungeons because we have a reason to play the game, which im not saying arena is the sole reason for hindering, yk lack of content etc etc but it doesnt help. progression = replayability and imo arena should reward players who play the game primarily rather than people who actively disengage and once they have a kit they play 2/7 days of the week in a brainless game mode. it's a lesser of 2 evils thing im not defending ironmace

[somber gyro]

looking for a third for arena OCE. meet in english gathering hall

[inner marsh]

Why? What is bad about arena been the no risk enviroment to try new things or learn pvp?

Economically dungeons will always be more rewarding specially hoping into HR

[lofty cave]

any good dark and darker clones? with solos?

[stiff talon]

first and foremost because its not the point of the game, which i've said multiple times. second of all wasting dev time balancing and reworking arena multiple times is less dev time to make content which is the reason why as you said people are bored of the main gameplay. arena is not a bad idea in theory and it definately has a place in the game it just came out too early and the prio in the first 3 years should have been more content imo.

[vocal ether]

why do I need video evidence to report a teammate who kills me when I spawn into the match

[granite copper]

yes you decide the point of the game ok thanks

[inner marsh]

A game can contain multiple games within specially to prevent burnout.

That's an issue on Iron Mace flip flopping and the vision just been whatever sdf thinks will work wasting dev time and money in features no one askes for, ideally arena would be balanced because the standard dungeon is balanced.

This is like claiming an mmo should only have pve grinding and no pvp instances because "that's the point of the game".

[granite copper]

well said

[slate peak]

What you give us roles and you expect us to be happy the game's still trash

[stiff talon]

no im saying a game in development should have focussed on DEVELOPMENT FIRST, not that multiple games or modes shouldnt exist

[granite copper]

arena is apart of the games development

[inner marsh]

Agreed but it's IM

We had duos removed despite been the best gateway for newbies to learn the ropes without complex team comms and we've had the cycle come and go depending on the mood

Every "new" feature is a fearure that was in the game before or worked on in the past then scrapped, blaming arena for IMs shortcomings is a stretch

[slate peak]

yup lol

[granite copper]

this dudes arguments are literally just nonsense when you try to define what developement is and isnt literally just a fake smarty pants upset

[stiff talon]

A game mode that was designed to be LIMITED indicates that it's temporary and not the main point of the game, that's not me deciding that. The fact that a temporary mode became more popular speaks to incompetant devs but that doesnt change the point that an extraction game is about extracting

[granite copper]

another boring response with nothing to do with what i originally said lmao

this dude could talk in circles all day and never admit that every single one of his arguments are just he feels a certain way and tries to tell you the "right" way to play lmao

[stiff talon]

are you incapable of critical thinking or do you just lack comprehension skills entirely? if a company makes a limited product, that product is not the intended core product regardless of its popularity

[granite copper]

again never said the opposite but you are only interested in pretending to have a not boring opinion

[zealous fox]

the only 2 people who even care about arena right now arguing with eachother lmao

[granite copper]

he doesnt care because its not the right way to play the game 🤓

[hearty brook]

Yall know what the drop rate on Troll Pelt is?

[granite copper]

4

[hearty brook]

4%? Thanks! Is it the same for High Roller?

[granite copper]

Im just fucking with you dog probably google it

[agile seal]

15% in hr and idk the other modes

[inner marsh]

The 6.4k players that enjoyed arena left about 2 months ago(not all at the same time, but we've been on a steep decline for now a year)

[granite copper]

it was just me left until today

[inner marsh]

Biggest drop was during the artifact exploit

[granite copper]

brother is typing up a storm for nobody to actually care 😭

[stiff talon]

i dont particularly care about arena. I merely think that a system that discourages players from engaging with the game aka extracting, buy 1 kit never play anything but arena,, is worse COMPARITEVELY than self found where people have to extract. Like I said im not defending ironmace or giving my opinion on anything it's a comparison and 1 is more unhealthy than the other very obviously

[random cargo]

flute doesnt deal 150% reposte damage whats happening?

[granite copper]

very obviously 🤓

[stiff talon]

you have 1 option where people have to play the game you designed and 1 option where you dont. it is very obvious yes

would it be better if the game was better there was more classes more maps 100% absolutely, still doesnt change the logic

[granite copper]

doesnt change the logic 🤓

[stiff talon]

repeatedly quoting someone instead of contributing anything to a conversation whilst starting a scren and saying "omg look hes typing" has to be the most brainrot i've seen in a while. ironically after saying "for nobody to care" while caring enough to read and repeat something someone said like a child multiple times

[short valley]

@glad thunder bring back solos!!

[flat pier]

This game has been dying the slow death of "We are continuing to choose to lose time, money, and sleep in the name of 'game balance' instead of using that effort to add more content." and or fully realize what the full release should look even like.

this game has given me brain damage and I'm unlearning proper english because of it

[short valley]

this game is going down the drain, cant run solos and get any meaningful progress done due to the GREAT VISION sdf has for this game. feels pointless to play.
in norms i get chased down by caveman brain trios with nothing to lose and in hr i run into fully crafted and legendary gear. sdf did good brining back random mods, now its time for solo to come back.

[tender arch]

when is the new season starting\

[short valley]

august i think

[tender arch]

thanks

[idle whale]

is there an updated list of stat prio?

[steady fossil]

whats meta rn?

[fading palm]

i swear to god ppl on random matchmaking are handicapped

[daring kettle]

finding a different game xD

[severe coyote]

so after the flip flop and the bad ttk balancing, we're back to just trios stacked with legendaries and uniques

sdf really is garbage at this game design thing. At least Tarkov wiped yesterdya.

[severe coyote]

realest shit

[cloud wave]

Go to hell with your game! Why did you upgrade parry again? You sick bast@rds! 1 parry hit. 1. I got killed by a level 1 @sshole man. I beat him for 3 years. and he killed me with 1 hit, 1 xp left and a mob. I hate you and your game, it doesn't give me anything positive. I've been playing as a slayer for 1000 levels, I get killed by a guy with no perks, no nothing. all he has is a longsword. which he managed to catch 1 of my many attacks. i died from 1 tick! I don't think I'm gonna play this shit.

[uncut raptor]

When is the new season??

[granite copper]

YEAH IM ABOUT DONE WHY DOES THE ITEMS I FIND ON MY CHARACTERS NOT COUNT TO ALL MY CHARACTERS JUST LOST A FULL FIT I WORKED FOR MYSELF FOR MY WIZARD

might be the worst dev of all time

[paper mulch]

still no wipe huh

[woeful tartan]

if he wipes without solo/duo, 1 wipe can be enought to kill the game

[paper mulch]

yea

[granite copper]

how do you ruin the one thing that still made this game fun 😭 arena was so good i hope this game burns to the ground i think im officially done im uninstalling

[uncut raptor]

@granite coppercrybaby

[granite copper]

i would walk you like a dog little guy go to bed

[uncut raptor]

Lol well then

[paper mulch]

il eat your ass

[uncut raptor]

[weary hedge]

Games kinda lit rn I won’t even lie

[uncut raptor]

@paper mulchwatch out weatherboy over here contacting admins bc he sucks at dnd lol

[paper mulch]

damn okay okay i see

[uncut raptor]

just got reported for insulting him

[granite copper]

what are you talking about

i do not care enough about your existence to report you

[lofty sun]

Did adding random modifiers back fix the player count?

[granite copper]

no

[paper mulch]

yes

[lofty sun]

Ah yes, two completely different answers

[alpine anchor]

so you cant bring bought stuff into arena now?

[granite copper]

the other dude is like 4 years old the player count is like 3k

[sonic schooner]

ggs

[lofty sun]

Honestly idk if im gonna reinstall my buddy tried shit talking all the games I play just to try and make me play dark and darker

[velvet dirge]

QUESTION
if i hit someone with a curse of pain it will damage them, now if i hit em one mote time will it do the damage again or will it not

[wide bough]

friggin Giants Toe, jesus

[granite copper]

damage again

[cunning jolt]

Game will not return to form until solos/duos are added back. Its just so miserable to play as a solo rn and the community so toxic teaming with randoms is just awful

[lofty sun]

I had a stash full of giants toes and tried trading them to a streamer once

[lofty sun]

Assumed so, the game is gonna die so fast its not built to survive like tarkov because even with all the changes you cant really 1 v 3 when if the enemy team has a ranger/sorc its over

[wide bough]

LOL. Thanks, that story keeps me motivated

[lofty sun]

Believe in the game so that people can get more giants toes

[jaunty elm]

Is it dead yet?

[mellow lance]

this game needs sub classes or talent tree so bad right now after the gear nerfs

[cloud wave]

Don't install it. This game is ruining people.

[cloud wave]

Sometimes I just go on my own without allies. sometimes I want a break from people. especially in this game.

[cloud wave]

you're talking nonsense. I can't handle 1 against 3. I can't handle 1 in my class. It's not that I don't have enough experience. it's just that 1 is unrealistically strong and the others are overpowered and forgotten.

[wide bough]

The removal of solo doesn't even make sense on a psychological level.

In extraction games its all about betraying, killing and robbing people. I'd argue, that this attracts A TON of antisocial people in general.
And now you force those people into groups. Great plan. ^^

[cloud wave]

Well, actually, yeah. There's a point. but, like, I'd like more friendliness. If a game squeezes all the juice out of all its moments, it's a bad game.

[lofty sun]

What? At first I thought you were proving my point then you made a complete 180, im just saying this game is not made to play solo vs trios

[cloud wave]

they went a little too far with the burning of the players.

[cloud wave]

No, absolutely not. Should it be?

[lofty sun]

Nah, this game isn't designed to allow 1 v 3, period, nothing they do will change that

[cloud wave]

don't). although some classes can kill packs of players quite successfully.

when some people can barely stand up for themselves one-on-one.

disgusting balance)

[wide bough]

Easy. Every class is capable of 1v3 a rogue group

[warm ingot]

You can't ask a ranger to 1v3
You can't ask a wizard or sorc to 1v3
You can't ask a rogue to 1v3

The only real 1v3 class is barb

Even then if you're playing players that are equally geared and equally skilled you should almost never be able to 1v3.

[lofty sun]

Ok you got me there, that must be sdf's vision, you are always 1 v 3'ing a group of rogues

[wide bough]

🤣

[visual beacon]

Could someone tell me when will be wipe and new season? I thought it will be today but does not seem like it

[lofty sun]

Dont think it'll matter, the wipe ain't bringing new content that'll revive the game, just a player boost for 2-3 days

[visual beacon]

Isnt there new underwater map coming new season?

[wide bough]

End of AUgust

Squire Gear Rogue in Gobo Caves is so hilariously hard xD

One goblin hit leaves you on 30-40% health after the poison

and Goblins need like 4-5 Headshots to die

[hardy stump]

next month

[barren trellis]

If when the second time u hit them, the curse is still on them, it will just reset the dot, and not deal the initial damage
The curse has to wear out do to the initial damage as well

[barren trellis]

Stop playing daggers brother, go for the short sword, 3 hit the goblins

[formal sequoia]

Wipe is in lately August

[barren trellis]

There is, but it will probably be a buggy mess, and if this is their only content, in max 2 months the player count will drop again

[wide bough]

I just died with my real equipment, so i started a squire run... Its just a bad idea on rogue. Shortsword is way better, i agree. I kinda love the bloodsap blade now that rogue has 6 base vigor. Heals more than 1% max life per hit

[barren trellis]

Yea bloodsap is bis, if u dont have an unique short sword, daggers got their damage gutted, and try to never get hit by mobs, rogue is the most punished class by that

[random magnet]

When tf are we punishing team killers btw

[wide bough]

Yeah. Squire Rogue takes more damage from a goblin Hit than a grey Campfire can restore, its ridiculous

[lofty sun]

There was supposed to be a quiver for rangers forever ago

[wide bough]

Its part of the vision i believe. Forcing people in Trios and DONT punish TK, but instead reward them with an edgy red name, that pure genius ^^

[sturdy fable]

dead game

[tall hamlet]

How to report for intentional team killing ButtMedley Rogue is queing to team kill repeatedly. saw him team kill me at spawn then he got into the same match a second time and teamkilled at spawn on another team

just qued into another match and he tried to do it again

LOL no way to report him is crazy. if they leave lobby we have no means

[paper mulch]

cry bro

[manic hill]

sdf cooking a hotdog

not even oscar meyer either. probably dollar store hot dogs

[radiant notch]

barb is not op lmao ur just losing three 1v1s which is embarrassing

[spring bramble]

is it the new season yet?

[little escarp]

This game has become unplayable again, additional bonuses and a barbarian with 170hp running faster than you...

[manic hill]

dont worry guys next patch we are guaranteed to revert again.

[abstract veldt]

Protip: if you kill someone, make sure that you took their pants off.

This will inform other players that if they try to follow you, they will die „by snu snu”

[graceful kettle]

How Many more DATA do you need to understand that we need SOLO wtf .

[desert orchid]

did they remove true from rings and added it to weapons?

[abstract veldt]

Yes, also there is not additional move speed and max health bonuses. I like it, you can’t be statchecker

[abstract veldt]

Just play rogue

[desert orchid]

isnt rogue still worst class in the game rn

[abstract veldt]

Nope, imo is really strong (thanks to that 200% headshots) specially if you wanna solo in trio

[desert orchid]

aww man they removed true dmg from hats, i cant wear wizard hat ever gain

[wide bough]

The data shows, that not a single person played solo in the last two weeks. Therefore nobody wants it!

[desert orchid]

6 base vigor + nerfed dex didnt get reverted so its mega ass

[abstract veldt]

I like that energy, we should say that so they will buff it

[graceful kettle]

i play rogue in solo , but i m bored to be a Rat , and don't start with the you can ez 1v3 ppl

[desert orchid]

u can still be a stat checker just play barbarian, last night I hopped on some norms to try out the patch and me and some random sorc teammate both died in 1 hit to double axe barbarian cuz they buffed double axe after nefing the other options lol

[abstract veldt]

By ez 1v3 its more like stalking people and wait for someone to leave group so you can kill him Quickly and runaway. But ive been a rat my hole playtime and rogue only so that’s my perspective

[graceful kettle]

this is pointless , i ve won like 4-5 1v3 , i ve lost like more than 50 , even killing 1 guy and running away , its pointless you dont have time to loot him ,they will rez him and just keep playing , there are more chance than u die to another team while running away than actually winnin something

[abstract veldt]

I am really good rat i loot really quick. My k/d is like 4+ and i run with Purple/legendary kits.

But you need to like this playstyle. And it’s my playstyle the hole time. I way playing solo trios even when we got other lobbies. But that’s just me

[naive coral]

Are we having fun again?

[desert orchid]

nah these new rolls are ass

[fading garnet]

Why ?

[desert orchid]

cant get +knowledge on my vigor cape, its over

[fading garnet]

[royal marsh]

I love playing solo in this game

[desert orchid]

is this 1984?

[trim tendon]

i just tried to play a couple games. won’t be returning. even if they bring solos back i won’t be interested. thanks for 2700 hours of almost good times

[tight vine]

@pearl owl hey

[tropic python]

When is season 7?

[haughty swift]

I’m glad SDF killed his game dude is incompetent as fuck

[lament verge]

WHY ARE THESE PATCH NOTES GOOD FOR ONCE I CAME HERE TO COMPLAIN

[wide bough]

yeah, they farm for the red name

[smoky jetty]

@glad thunder now add mutiple affixes for test servers

[dense perch]

" Please note that the values for the new random modifiers have been adjusted to try and maintain the new HTK sweet spot. We acknowledge that the reintroduction of the random modifiers increases the item gap range, and we will be monitoring the dungeons so we can adjust them as necessary in the future." -SDF 2025, thinks everyone is afraid of gear gap from random modifiers

[lament verge]

I mean I say good because it simply undoes SDF indulgent brainfarts as always, but I’ll take any small W that makes DaD playable again..

[sinful gull]

not good enough.. he took 60% of the game away, im not gonna say thx everytime he gives me a little piece back.

[lament verge]

Good point, SDF has an uncanny ability to find “fixes” (ie. complete lazy removals) for features nobody needed changing.

[dense perch]

For me the really bad thing is that he is coping so much? Like he said some updates before "DaD is supposed to be unfair and hard it is his vision and he wants to make a game for him and others like him" now it is "this and this is unfair and hard, I dont like that, my friends dont like that and the TEAMS vision is unsatisfying". Wtf? I mean stay your ground boy, are you 12? Ship is sinking and streamers running away and now everything isnt you fault anymore

[rich stream]

all ima say about this patch is holy rogue batman

[crisp bolt]

youre telling me that, removing things and then piece mealing it back to us, isnt what 90% of the player base was looking for

[plain loom]

are you having lag?

[narrow spindle]

THERES TRUE DAMAGE ROLLS ON WEAPONS NOW??!!!

[storm cliff]

IT WAS A CLEAR BLACK NIGHT A CLEAR WHITE MOON SIGMA G WAS ON THE STREET TRYING TO CONSUME SOME SKIRTS FOR THE EVE JUST SO I CAN GET SOME THONGS

[sinful gull]

bruh just had a nice balanced 2v6 in gc pile room... can we get solo back i rather 1v2 in solo then 2v6 in trio tbh

[mental halo]

Anyone go red as a solo to spawn right next to a trio or on top of them? Happened almost all night and only after the patch

[half sphinx]

The efficiency of sdf is the inefficiency of a delusional mess.
They copied the cooperative game DND to create the cooperative game DAD,
but believed they could retain solo players like Tarkov and dreamed of 1v3.
Then they added solo mode, ruined both solo and trio modes,
removed solo mode again, and are now pursuing their 1v3 vision.
Then why didn’t they just make a game like Tarkov from the start instead of a co-op game?
The efficiency of sdf is the inefficiency of a delusional mess

[ocean temple]

when is the wype ?

[mossy wing]

The main wipe will be late August 🙂

[cosmic swan]

Hi you probably don't know that but you might be able to passed on the information, is it intended that we can't add the Cooldown Reduction bonus stat on any piece of gear through the Goldsmith? Or is it an oversight? Because it was already that way last season

[vivid flume]

yo i have a question, whats up with like a forth of the community of dnd going in a match and killing your teamates or getting us 1 hp. then reporting us if we team kill

[ocean temple]

thx

[mossy wing]

I have no idea xD sorry 😄

[graceful kettle]

Ressourcfulness works as Cooldown reduction

[cosmic swan]

Np, at least you answer me xD I tried Chyunkus and Graysun, in chat and mp and I got no answer

[cosmic swan]

Sure but on some class who don't have a lot of armor piece with ressourcefulness as a base stat (or if you want to still have other stat) if you want to reach the cap or CDR (65%) you need to stack both

[hot wolf]

Is loot fixed yet?

[hardy stump]

sorc has many pieces with it tho

[cosmic swan]

I'm trying to build a 65% cdr ranger, with the 50% action speed skill and forcefull push. I did it last season and it was very fun. But this season it might be way harder to build it in SSF @hardy stump

[hardy stump]

yeah, good luck with that, these hard caps are not achievable for every class by design

[cosmic swan]

I did it with ranger and fighter last season. You can reach the cap now that there's the Cooldown reduction bonus stat

[late bramble]

I just redownloaded the game and it just shuts down without giving an error when it says "connecting". Nice first impression of the game's state

[zinc tiger]

but u get +1 knowledge from every piece than before

[graceful kettle]

i dont think a cdr cap sorc is healthy for the game tho

[desert orchid]

is there any infinity brain sorcs out there who utilize mud shield to kill rangers?

[cosmic swan]

Probably not xD But that's not my plan

[wooden nova]

@glad thunder you messed this game totally. I was playing Dark and Darker since playtest 2. From the begining i fall in love in this game. Now after years i'm tired of your constant indecision and illogical decisions. After the latest update, the game has become painfully unplayable. I'm tired of getting one-shotted in the head on normal difficulty, I'm tired of dying in two hits. It all makes no sense anymore, and I think it's time to accept the death of this game.

[graceful kettle]

What do you mean , in play test you could get one tap by a ranger with 20+ weapon damage kit across the map , pvp is fine atm , just need solo Back

not to meantion that longbow purp was 54 damage at this time , with more or less the same hp pool than today

[barren trellis]

If u die in adventure mode, u 100% get your gear back when u die, no?

[cosmic swan]

Yes, u should

[barren trellis]

And should I get it at the end of the raid or what?

[cosmic swan]

Yes, at the end. You need to wait a bit. But don't leave and come back later as the Goblin only keep your stuff for like 1 hour

[graceful kettle]

goblin merchant gives u your kit back

[barren trellis]

Ok, thx
Cuz i did an oopsie at troll and i was dressed in full gold kit with grims and fang of death, so yeah, im worried xD

[winter tinsel]

I’ve had that happen less than 5 times out of hundreds of games with randoms

If anything the rage quitters or toxic arena players are far worse

[vivid flume]

it happens to me like 3 times a day and i play around 3 to 4 hours

its usually the rogues and wiz, wiz will fireball and rogue uses poisen

[hardy stump]

last season affixes had much higher values

[winter tinsel]

When I had red name ppl would just KoS so maybe that’s it? Idk tho ppl are weird

[cosmic swan]

Not ressourcefulness and Cooldown Reduction bonus, well you could have ressourcefulness on your ring and cloak but now gear give +1 base stat compared to last season, it compensate a little

[vivid flume]

im a white name

the red names ppl would go after cause they couldn't report

[lofty hemlock]

white mane

i killed a teammate who was racist/raging and got a red name and teammates KoS me :3

[spark skiff]

does anybody else just randomly have sudden bursts of agony for no reason

[lofty hemlock]

see a doctor

[flint minnow]

hi everyone someone know when the wipe comming?

[abstract veldt]

I play only rogue, being 1-2 tapped it’s the average day

[proper parcel]

when is wipe i thought it was today

[mossy wing]

The main wipe will be late August 🙂 @proper parcel

[gusty birch]

Im ok with 1-2 tap anymore. But come back optimization please😿 When i started playin like 3 months ago it was like medium graphic and it lag a bit but i really dont care. Then i switch all to low and almost no stacks,freezes (except for first minute you load in map just encounterin the game).
But now its like lags just happen even when its a big 3vs3vs3vs3 in 2 rooms from me, like wtf?

[marsh panther]

What’s the player count?

[hardy stump]

where the hell do so many people get that idea from?
Its next month at earliest

[mossy wing]

I believe people are looking at the arena reset timer xD "Arena Test 5 Rank starts from 07/11 00:00(UTC)." and misinterpreting it

[drowsy vortex]

Did game just go down? cannot connect as I was between floors

[velvet dirge]

I invited someone from the English gathering hall cause i want people that speak English, ended up playing with someone on a whole different server nice update

[patent pendant]

someone know when the new season comes?

[paper steppe]

is there any way to fix failed to connect to the server

i have redownloaded, verified file, restarted pc, spam open dnd, restarted steam, open steam as admin

[kindred quiver]

anyone else get stuck loading going down the red ?

[hardy stump]

rare bug, restart the game fast when it loads longer than usual

[kindred quiver]

huh went back to lobby , Thanks

[thick knoll]

When does the new season start

[unreal obsidian]

felling axe can now attack faster? lmao

[mild rapids]

when is new season dropping??

[unreal obsidian]

late august at earliest

[fast lagoon]

how do i queue in solo games?

[lunar eagle]

nope

[unreal obsidian]

? ok that's from ironmace themselves.. maybe it's later.. but that's the public given knowledge at this point

[lunar eagle]

wipe will be in late august not the season

[fast lagoon]

guys how do i join solo matches?

[cosmic swan]

You can't, they removed solo queue. That part of why the game took a huge backlash recently

[fast lagoon]

why would they do that?

thats horrible xD

[cosmic swan]

I don't know, it's one of SDF obsession. He want to remove Solo and duo since it was added. He plan to try making Solo player in trio lobby work by making 1vs3 fight possible/easier (which is a terrible idea that probably won't work anyway) and if he fail to do that within the next couple of week he said that Solo will come back

[raven granite]

when is wipe:

[cosmic swan]

Late august

[raven granite]

ty

[fast lagoon]

i hope so. Idont understand why a developer has to force his own vision that the player doesnt like

[velvet dirge]

where to find the rubsilver ore

[cosmic swan]

That's easy, because he have too much ego and think he's better and smarter than us. We're all wrong only his vision will make the game good

[graceful kettle]

Solo HR has always been part of the game , goblin cave solo was a huge thing back in play tests

[cosmic swan]

In Inferno. Look for the Demon Den module, Blood platforms, Spider lair and Blood river

[velvet dirge]

8k playing rn

[cosmic swan]

No it was not. At the beginning the game was meant to be Trio only, they caved to player asking for a solo mode and added the Goblin cave. But they did add the solo mode really early, it was on playtest 4 and that's why it's terrible to remove it after so long, after people paid for the game for this solo mode etc

[graceful kettle]

we' re in 2025 a trio game based cannot work , its just that simple

Imagine queing Arena in Wolrd of warcraft Retail , and ur only possible gameplay if u re not with friends its to attempt to 1v3
K E K

[hardy nimbus]

we' re in 2025 a trio game based cannot work , its just that simple
Says who?

[fast lagoon]

numbers

[graceful kettle]

Idk , maybe 75% of the population that left ?

[candid ermine]

The player count

[cosmic swan]

It's more complex than that but ok

[hardy nimbus]

Yappers strong together

[thorny reef]

That is insane they fr killed the game

[cosmic swan]

It is

[graceful kettle]

Don't get me wrong , i love trios and started the game as trio in early play tests , But u just cant simply have 2 reliable friends at any time given to play the game with you , people have life. How delusional are you to force ppl into trios.

[thorny reef]

If autofilling teams wasn’t actually horrible it would be nice

[hardy nimbus]

That's a completely different argument. That I can agree with but statement "we' re in 2025 a trio game based cannot work , its just that simple" is just plain wrong with all the examples of team-based games that work just fine.

[thorny reef]

But there’s no way to do like skill based match making like a real competitive game…

[smoky jetty]

imagine playing at midnight time, you need to wake up your friends if you want to stand a chance in the dungeons ... gg sdf logic

[graceful kettle]

Auto fill matchmaking is a giant joke , this will never work. Not enough ppl in the game , so there's no MMR , gearscore matchmaking based , its literally random.
You can have 2 griefers with you meanwhile there are trios on discord geared to the teeth in the same dungeon

[smoky jetty]

oh I forgot you can play with randoms but we all know how this turns out .. imagine you find an artifact, how on earth do you want to split it with strangers? they will team kill or you kill them if you are smart

[sinful gull]

there is just no point in bringing gear if the biggest factor for actually keeping it is your random team...

[misty stone]

I die 5x more times when i play With 2 randoms than when i play solo vs trios

[graceful kettle]

My gameplay is literally rating in a good rogue kit , to try to stalk ppl and maybe get a clean quick kill and even that , its rng based. most of the time you end up just running away from anything , best case scenario you kill one guy , run away from the others , they rez him and gg , but 90% of the time if they re experienced you just kill one , die , they rez , they lost nothing you lost everything , how is that supposed to be a game experience

[misty stone]

Because i can choose my fights most of the times. Wait and be patient to 3 party.

[cloud wave]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/652699/slayer-new-class-development VOTED UP press please, thank you. (my suggestion doesn't mean I want to introduce all these changes, it's just hints in what direction to go) I apologize if you have already read this text. We need to collect more votes=).
Increase the damage of the knight's sword and short sword! Or create a pair of weapons for the slayer. We demand the introduction of crafting options for knight swords and short swords! an artifact for left-handed weapons, is also necessary. The vampire blade is of no use in pvp.

[misty stone]

Bro step by step. First add solo back. We need focus on that. Then we add new stuff to the game

If we start with another sht they never will hear us propely. Focus on one thing.

[wicked plume]

Is the season over? I didn't earn my rewards!

[worldly wedge]

@sinful gull goat

[sinful gull]

this is the vision: 1 team with all legendary dominating every lobby talking shit and spamming emotes to random teams in squire+..bring back solo pls!

[inland elk]

please put back Solos.

[wind sail]

Pls add solos i cri evry tiem

[blissful valve]

Many people in lobby yesterday were talking about full wipe. Is some1 know when it will occur?

[obtuse yacht]

I buyed the game with my friend, we played solo and duos. Pls return the modes the game had when we put money in your EA project. My friend stop to play and im forced to play with random people.

[hard zenith]

Hello. I recently started playing d&d again and i don't understand why the highroller ranks stopped now, even if the new season/ wipe is late august.

[ruby mountain]

I love the new update and I loveeee the reverted actions to this game. In fact I love the fact that my 3 man team kills off solo, duo players when they’re trying to just loot their HR boss that they killed ☕️🐸

[hidden hare]

GUYS GUYS ALL TOGETHER " WE NEED CIRCLE BAK"

[topaz star]

Circle was pretty fun. But I kinda like no circle ngl.

[smoky jetty]

can we finally get solos back ffs

[maiden knot]

SDF bring pls fucking solo duo modes back, or game dead soon

[maiden knot]

i am this solo player(

[low quarry]

Why is SDF not implementing the most important change to the game. BRING BACK SOLOS. The majority of players do not give a single fk about team modes.

[spice prism]

They really messed this game up big time, sad to see it dying, but the devs don’t take one word of advice from the people that actually play their game

[bright latch]

Yea its so much fun to fight 1v3 all the time. damn sdf your vision is blinding

what a w patch. i love fighting 1v3 all the time and then reloading back into the same game to fight 1v3 again. 1v3 is the vision

[hasty marlin]

Ooooh SDF... if you're out there.. bring back solos! Your playerbase will literally x4 overnight!

Just take ruins or ice caverns and make it have a solo option, only one map - it's all we need

[slim apex]

what is the new halberd scaling?

[inner wing]

game feels very good at moment imo , i love they brought back you have to craft andf find your own gear for arena

[bright latch]

1v3 1v3 1v3 1v3 1v3

[inner wing]

i agree should bring back solos

[slim apex]

revert gobbo to solo only again, it's what it was designed for. if they want to bring solo back

[inner wing]

thats a good idea

[hasty marlin]

I would just appreciate any sort of compromise. I've been playing trios fill/no fill to try to get used to it, yeah, you can make it work but in every single extraction game I've ever played, I always prefer solos. Hop on by yourself when you have time for a game or two, play then get off. Not everyone has time to match up and find, or want to find a full team to play. Gotten so many games where people just want to rush inferno and boss and ignore everyone, or only looking for quest items and ignore any sort of team play

Even if they segment solo queue into one rotating map only, or one specific map, I guarantee we go from 4-5k in dungeon to 10k+

[bright latch]

fought 5 games in a row with 1v3 the vision is blinding me

[slim apex]

play with fill or use this disc it's easy to avoid 1v3

[trail wraith]

i cant even play now. how f can i 1v3??

[hard jacinth]

All the rogue players crying about needing solos back so they can go back to ambushing and stealing other people's loot

[hasty marlin]

Or maybe just the majority of the playerbase wanting it back so they can play the game they've been playing for the last two years as it's been statistically shown by public information posted by IronMace in the past that across EVERY region in EVERY map that solos was by far the most played queue..

[hard jacinth]

Yeah and rogue was the most common class played, not anymore

[hasty marlin]

I don't think that's a gotcha.. same as how in high level trios wizard has always been one of the most used in proper team compositions, but in solos it ranks among the lowest

2k+ hours in solos alone, can count on my fingers the amount of times a rogue has caused me grief in solos, high roller or normals.

[hard jacinth]

Wizard players whine a lot less than rogue players though. Also it takes at least some skill to play a wizard. The game is much more enjoyable when it's not 50% of the player base being landmine rogues sitting near exits ambushing people at the end of their run

[hasty marlin]

Fighter/Cleric/Wizard main here.. solos only.. don't care about rogues. Terrible decision on IM to take away the most popular queue, fundamentally changing and ruining the game for a majority of their playerbase. 👍

[hard jacinth]

Yeah I'm not talking about you personally.

On the leaderboard last season 8 of the top 10 players were one class. A total coincidence I'm sure

[hasty marlin]

To be real though that shouldn't be a surprise, yeah? I mean rogue is a stealthy, assassin based class. Their place in a game like this is meant for solos, or duos at most. Yeah, you can make it work in trios, but it's not nearly as viable because trios prioritizes a ranged meta or buffball in most of the games updates. In the current state of the game, you either play mosquito rogue and never move in or you don't exist because TTK.

[wind halo]

when does the new season start? is there any information?

[hard jacinth]

Like I said, people whining about solos are mostly road players that want their cancerous style of "gameplay" back. Most not all

[hasty marlin]

i strongly disagree with what you're saying

most people who want solos back just want to be able to play the only queue they enjoy again

[inland elk]

I also disagree as a solo fighter/cleric/wizard

[graceful kettle]

last wipe most of solo were cleric/barbs players , a few rogues tbf

[hard jacinth]

Yeah a poll here isn't going to solve this question. I have actual data backing up my assertion (the aforementioned leaderboards)

And the retort of "oh yeah well of course they will dominate the solo leaderboards they are assassins" actually proves my point

[hasty marlin]

rogues being high on the leaderboard for HR grinding means nothing, it just means they played the most because anything after hitting demi is literally just to brag. like the dude who played lock in solos HR last season, #1 the entire leaderboard, it wsnt because "lock is overpowered in solos" its because he played for 14 hours a day streaming it as a goal

[chrome vine]

the mode provides fair fights for people with the solo playstyle more than trying to balance 1v3 ever will

[hasty marlin]

leaderboard farming in solos isnt about being overpowered as a class and ratting. it's people running optimized AP farming paths and cheesing elite mobs and rushing extract

[graceful kettle]

rogues on leaderboards are guys that FARMS a lot of AP , not really some PVP gods who abuse rogues

Game was so broken last wipe that the only viable rogue build was stacking HP and PDR to even be able to maybe 1v1 barbs/cleric / fighters , they didnt even play Hide

[hasty marlin]

yeah, no ambush rogue was beating a barb with all of the + buffs that they got to axes lol

[stiff talon]

you know before they removed kills leaderboard the rank 1 killer was rogue

[graceful kettle]

you mean early days when the class was broken and u trishoot ppl with rapier and weakpoint ?

[honest minnow]

it is very funny - queue to ice cavern - a LOT of solo players, Hmmm i wonder why? 🤣 even if devs remove solo, ppl STILL want to play solos and duos

[graceful kettle]

Rogue atm is no way near from the vanilla rogue from Play test

[random anchor]

BRING SOLO BACK SDF

[hushed forum]

I personally think its great that SDF keeps putting updates through everyone knows will be bad but its his vision just to flip flop right back and just wasting everyone time every couple months

[hasty marlin]

at least with loot reverted the game gives me a sliver of the dopamine i would get from playing before..

gonna queue HR fill guys, wish me luck

[honest minnow]

nah he trying to trick everyone with "new features" coz they unable to actually develop, so you just remove- add- say it is new

[graceful kettle]

5 mn queue to get griefers ,
big respect my friend

[hasty marlin]

the expectation for sure, and what i got so far LOL

[spiral fern]

i love quing with fill and getting my shit stolen at the extract

[timid gust]

how can i change region in game?

[hasty marlin]

yk on second thought im going in no fill. last HR game i went fill, we killed a boss, split loot, and then before portal my teammates killed me and looted my pile loot

[spiral fern]

had the exact same thing happen to me

[verbal spindle]

You can't. They disabled that feature

[inner terrace]

That's fucked ngl, Yeah I dont fill lmao 2V3 is just the norm for me now. I still dont understand why it isnt wiped yet tho.

[tight acorn]

are unique gems not a thing?

[verbal spindle]

Negative

[tight acorn]

so i can't use gemcrafting on unique gear can i?

[verbal spindle]

Nope :\

[tight acorn]

hm that seems like a bit of an oversight

[inner terrace]

Welcome to Dark and darker. OVersight is the name of the game. They test in Production my dude.... Test server is useless.

[stiff talon]

idk gemming is like a supplement its not meant to replace the gameplay loop or value of finding gear with good rolls

[tight acorn]

i mean the goldsmith has the option to socket unique gear. it even shows them in the UI. they just don't exist lol

[willow salmon]

so, if I win an arena, enemy team loses their gear but I don't keep it, and if I lose an arena I lose my gear and that's it
what's the point of that again?

[stiff talon]

only non minted gear is lost

[willow salmon]

yeah, but I don't keep theirs.
where's the win in that?

[graceful kettle]

6k players Rn , could be doubled up if solo exists

[tidal jasper]

Sounds like you want to play the normal game mode?

[honest minnow]

there is no win for players, you lost gear, go again to grind it, more players, sdf could finance his new STEP of a VISION

[willow salmon]

sounds like trash tbh

[tidal jasper]

You just sound whiney tbh we have bigger problems

[graceful kettle]

Arena is PVP mode with ranks ladder , its not meant to get loot from ennemies , what are you on , go in dungeon

[stiff talon]

the point of arena has never been to win anything? if you want to win peoples stuff kill them in an actual dungeon thats the point 😂

[honest minnow]

yeah but they can ran away and not willing to fight... 🤣

[graceful kettle]

New level of whining K E K

[willow salmon]

but where's the balance in that. You win, but don't win anything and you lose but lose stuff

[stiff talon]

you dont lose stuff if the gear was self found.. it's literally just a 4fun pvp mode

[verbal spindle]

Take in self found gear. You lose nothing

[graceful kettle]

The SSF thing is kinda meh yh , it wasn't like that earlier

[tidal jasper]

Go find your gear.. in the dungeon...

[inner terrace]

But when wipe tho!?!? What was that counter that ended yesterday mean!?!?!?

[verbal spindle]

I prefer it, personally

[graceful kettle]

if u didnt find ur own gear to go in arena , u lose it if u loses the match

[verbal spindle]

Wipe is scheduled for end of August

[graceful kettle]

i have nothing against it but why dont wait for a wipe/reset to put that in place , and not at the end of the season

[inner terrace]

Where did you see said information at?

[willow salmon]

yeah, I bought an axe to enter arena and lost it to 3 wizzards. That's 500g lost. Not too much, but I think it's bs

[stiff talon]

minted > non minted, it's just flatly better for the game, more people in dungeon = more competition more pvp more everything, reason to progress reason to HR etc etc. people making x gold then buying a kit and then playing the game 2 days a week on arena days and nothing else was terrible for the game imo

[graceful kettle]

as i said i m cool with it i agree with ur point , but the timing to set it up is meh

[verbal spindle]

In the announcement channel from 6/10

"The semi-wipe will introduce several large changes we plan to polish as we lead up to the launch of EA Season 7, scheduled for late August. These upcoming changes include major changes to item design and the consolidation of matching pools."

[willow salmon]

be it terrible or not for the game is not my scope as a player. My scope as a player is entertainment. They need to find ways to entertain the player without the player as part of that cost

[stiff talon]

i mean it was originally ssf, non minted was actually an exception people forget that

[mental stratus]

whats ur guys favourite class to 1v3 with? for me its sorc

[inner terrace]

Ty bro

[earnest current]

game like Shtt , what are we waiting for , all those devs and ironmace pure n.oo.b

[graceful kettle]

sounds like u re made for Squire kits games and reset game over and over

[mental stratus]

thats the only way to play solos atm if you dont want to be in a constant loss for gear

[tidal jasper]

And they are entertaining players who enjoy the SF arena mode.

[limber sable]

Stop acting like the world revolves around you. Plenty of people enjoy arena for what it is. Don't play it if you don't like it. There's the main game for a reaaon

[graceful kettle]

depends , until solo comes back , and IT WILL come back , i play solo rogue , 180% interaction speed and 450 luck , i make lots of gold and when i m tired a make a kit and play Metal gear solid/ Syphon filter

[stiff talon]

W metal gear solid

[mental stratus]

i forgot to mention just ratting and avoiding pvp overall but i would rather shoot myself (in game) than play the game like that

[willow salmon]

revolves what? man, I'm talking on behalf of consumers. there's people who can't play this game more than "2 days a week on arena days and nothing else"
I'm glad people who have that kind of time enjoy arena, I do to. I just think it's unfair to lose stuff when you don't win stuff.
why not as before. Not lose anything and that's it

[mental stratus]

people who only play arena shouldnt get a say in anything ngl

[willow salmon]

ppl who pay have a say on what they consume ngl

[tidal jasper]

It is as before. It started as a self found mode. If you can't play more than 2 days a week maybe you should focus on other things in life

[willow salmon]

that's how the numbers went down to 400 just the other day

[stiff talon]

you can still play arena if thats the mode you want to play, it will just be less optimally than before since you allegedly dont have time. do you think the game should be centred around people who play admittedly play casually or yk.. give an advantage to the actual player base who actually play the game..?

[honest minnow]

im talkin on behalf of consumers too. i like self found arena, coz it is way more fun and not so many real$trade pepegas just straight up buying kits, it feels like i earn it and every win or loss is earned too

[winged herald]

still getting 1shot...from mobs...that youre changing the programming for so we dont know who its targetting or if its still following us...who the fuck would start playing this game. fucking stupid

[stiff talon]

literally this, people complaining are just weird tbh. considering gear is easier than it has ever been to optimise considering socketing exists. you literally have to find a single peice of a rarity and just gem shit on it to make it not useless but thats too hard ig they want to be spoonfed 😎

[honest minnow]

YEP, it become really hard to get full max rolls, but they dont matter as much as before, just mid rollds and you good

[verbal spindle]

Exactly. People just want to splash the cash on absolute BIS and gear check in arena only. Good riddance I say. W SSF

[hardy plank]

@zinc sparrow If we donate $10 for the event can we get the emote and campfire??

[cosmic bluff]

Ngl the only way I could see myself coming back at this point is if they did a Dark and darker classic before they added in all the classes that ruined the game

[hard jacinth]

what mob 1 shotted you from full health?

[zinc sparrow]

There will be a selection in the menu to get both for $10, yes

[hardy plank]

LETSS GOOOOO

[whole hearth]

w graysun

[trail wraith]

can you 1v3?

[lethal crag]

how much do we have to donate for sdf to step down?

[stray yacht]

As much as I hate this awful fucking game and SDF. Can we not with the negative emojis on a charity announcement.

[zinc sparrow]

Nope haha

[tawdry bridge]

Does the gear have random modifiers again? Just checking in for the week before I disappear again.

[radiant basin]

F*ck cancer W Ironmace

[winged herald]

the ol' crossbow skele

[subtle heart]

Lmao imagine caring. IronMace keeps messing with their playerbase and wants us to give a shit about their “charity” after robbing half their playerbase.

[warm warren]

what if you want both charity items

[hardy plank]

All my homies hate cancer

[oak shale]

Fr dude

[radiant basin]

You can get both for $10 there will be an option for it

[subtle heart]

Give some of the money from all the solos who bought your game and be done with it

[whole hearth]

ppl are allergic to scrolling up and reading

[oak shale]

Sir platelock is speaking faxxs

[radiant basin]

Yes it does!

[hardy plank]

How do you guys feel about the no names in hr for teammates

[drifting hinge]

So HR now just become full team of friends run around and kill solo

[oak shale]

No randows in my hr rounds

[neat breach]

Hey, we're not listening to the player base about the game direction, but please donate for us so we can write it off on our taxes.

[stiff talon]

kinda weird if you actually read the post it says "IRONMACE does not handle any funds related to this event and is not compensated in any form." .. so what are you saying imagine caring about cancer? seems pretty normal

[hard jacinth]

why are people downvoting that charity announcement lol

[hard linden]

People still play this garbage? 🗑️

[tawdry bridge]

Yippee! Might be time to come goof around again.

[oak shale]

Fuck cancer and fuck ironmace

[hardy plank]

People still come into this discord to complain about a game they don't play ?

[subtle heart]

Lmao want my ass to donate to charity when I already paid for a product that doesn’t exist anymore.
They can use some of the money from every solo player they tricked into buying the game to donate, and be done with it.

[whole robin]

@zinc sparrow Bring back solo instead of giving limited emotes for 5 dollars

[hard jacinth]

I cannot image having such little self respect and value for my own time that I would spend it in the discord of a game I claim to hate and not play lmao

[jovial stag]

If you don't play a game anymore doesn't mean you dont like it.

[hard linden]

I would play if it was good, but it’s not

[whole hearth]

meanwhile they play it for 6+ hours minimum still and claim they dont

[tall zealot]

Is the game still dead and only trios?

[whole robin]

Yes

[trail wraith]

yeah

[hardy plank]

I hope druid can turn into a shark with this water map

[stiff talon]

only the dark community would downvote ironmace raising money for cancer, kinda weird

[hard linden]

They’re prolly keeping the money tbh

[gritty sparrow]

they stole my money

[oak shale]

Lmfao

[hardy plank]

As long as I can shoot off cool fireworks with the emote idc where the money goes

[drifting hinge]

Cry some more

[oak shale]

They write it of their taxes so yeah pretty much

[whole robin]

Deadgame

[tall zealot]

Okay wasn’t sure since they said they were trying to make stuff better for solos and I didn’t know if they were bringing back solo cues or if they were just bsing about trying to give a solo a chance against trios, the game will stay deleted then lol

[oak shale]

Is the emote public already?

[hardy plank]

No, but from the image it looks like a roman candle or something

[oak shale]

Some polish earrape firecrackers would be nice

[hardy plank]

I hope it makes the same sound as the bugged waterbolt

[oak shale]

Roll a doobie instead its healthier

[hardy plank]

Never have I seen someone roll a cig

[oak shale]

Hahahahahahahah that was so wild

[subtle heart]

Rolling tobacco is cheaper, so I roll my own cigarettes.

[hardy plank]

Word

[oak shale]

Awwww I smoke one for you too my g

[timber osprey]

[hard jacinth]

yeah I know this won't come off as uber helpful but I have learned to memorize where those spawn and when I go to a tile they're in, they are the only mob I focus on

[keen pecan]

Just give me solos pls

[trail wraith]

fuck this game how fuck can i playy?

[hard jacinth]

like if I'm in slime forest, that crossbowman behind the secret door is all I'm worried about, everything else can be easily dodged

[wooden lake]

Can someone explain to me why i can find two drums in a game and one will say "found by" and the other will say "looted"?

[winged herald]

game is still dogsh1t who would have guessed

[viscid pumice]

its not...?

[wraith wigeon]

Yoooo we got OnePeg selling out in a few days

[graceful storm]

I think +90% of the decent fun people to play with have left unfortunately. I was getting the absolute bottom of the barrel teammates yesterday playing for the first time in a while. (All my friends quit so I q with randoms in both lfg and auto fill) they need to get more people back to dilute those toxic guys out. that was an ass experience

[pearl sundial]

What’s player count rn, anyone know?

[winged herald]

it is. what, you play barbarian?

[wooden lake]

3.4k in game and 2.4k in lobby

[pearl sundial]

Ty

[viscid pumice]

barb was my first class, but i play warlock/rogue now. recently fighter

[wraith wigeon]

Can someone explain when something is considered “found”? I feel like I escaped the dungeon with some found rings and weapons, but they didn’t have the “found by” marking.

[wooden lake]

basically my question :
Can someone explain to me why i can find two drums in a game and one will say "found by" and the other will say "looted"?

[steep pewter]

Fuck sdf

[stiff talon]

if you use expressman it wont be minted, "found by" means you actually extracted with it

[wooden lake]

so you have to extract with the item to bring it to arena......

[wraith wigeon]

Man eff this

[stiff talon]

that is what solo self found means yes

[wooden lake]

an actual garbage rule

[wraith wigeon]

I went in. I got out. I got the gear out. Why is that not enough?

[wooden lake]

im playing devils advocate and maybe their thought process was that they didnt want arena overcrowed with overpowered gear?

[wraith wigeon]

lol they “thought”

[torn drift]

Can we get both the campfire and emote @zinc sparrow

[echo bloom]

bro everytime i look in this discord SDF goes on a yapping spree. how aboutg you update the game with meaningfull stuff. stop fking "balancing" the game thats not even close to being finished

[wraith wigeon]

It’s like when you go to build a house and you just keep relaying the concrete slab over and over again

[echo bloom]

yeah its so restarted

[velvet thistle]

Dead ahh game

[echo bloom]

stop balancing a game thats not finished. add content dude and when you finished with all the stuff than you start tweaking numbers

[hardy swift]

What's the in-game player count looking like these days?

[echo bloom]

no clue im not playing this game anymore but im getting spammed all the time with these restarted updates of how he is tweaking numbers while we need fking content

[wraith wigeon]

“I don’t like roadmaps because they dumb, but I also dumb at making games and life, so maybe we do roadmap”

[junior wyvern]

They couldnt follow a roadmap to save their lives lol... they cant even code a quiver lol

[warped raft]

stable servers and getting rid of the 2 year long abnormal termination error would be a better start 😉 kind of hard for some of us to even enjoy the content we dont have when half the time the game is crashing and or DCing

[hardy swift]

I just come here to check the c l own reacts on patch notes

[echo bloom]

Bro is putting details on a rock instead of a statue. ADD STUFF STOP ADDING NUMBERS

[junior wyvern]

but my guy! they are working hard!! Longbow armor penetration reduced by 5% now!! its a completely different game!

[hardy swift]

Crazy that c l o w n is a blacklisted word

[wraith wigeon]

They removed the poop react?

[solemn dagger]

Musta gotten worn out.

[hardy swift]

That's even funnier

[wooden knoll]

I don't see my teammates names anymore is that intended?

[zealous wing]

In HR yes

[hot epoch]

can we just stop with barbarian buff :/

[vocal vine]

learn to kite

[solid saddle]

We can I’m on it rn

[honest minnow]

just run and throw everything at him, he cant do much, too slow

[woeful cedar]

When the monk class coming

[foggy river]

It would be super cool to have a solo Q 👀

[woeful cedar]

Only if you're nice for one week

[rare oracle]

I love how he literally said on the podcast that they can’t do it without things in code breaking other things. And then in his kitchen posts comes with this insane lie that they are intentionally making rangers inventory qol bad because they are a strong character in pvp.

[fleet garnet]

fml jsut a solo Q for goblin caves woul be enough

[tough tree]

Soloq for goblin ITS enough @glad thunder

[void kestrel]

You think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and spread lies?

[mortal nest]

@everyone anyone looking to play some pve?

[silver smelt]

remove pve

[woven terrace]

hey guys! do we have random modifiers back so there's actually good gear in the game again or not? someone let me know

[delicate steppe]

Yes read announcements

[whole robin]

Bring back solo ffs

[earnest current]

no one want to buy donut with shtt on it , why donate for this shtt patch

[crisp wren]

wait is double boss room no logner a thing in goblin caves?

[verbal spindle]

It can only be accessed through the boss rooms now

[vague gate]

Wsp with all the negative votes for the charity event? This community is so toxic it’s crazy.

[distant comet]

those are negative votes for Onepeg through osmosis

[tribal zodiac]

O shit, here we go again.. right after Swarm pops at Ruins only

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[topaz iris]

any rangers out there noticing arrows going through heads or it just me....

[vague gate]

Idk I’m convinced y’all just downvote anything regardless if it’s positive or negative.

[quiet lance]

show ST jude some love and support the kids!

[vague gate]

Agreed!

[gritty sparrow]

If you are inclined to support the cause, do it on your own. Dont pay IM's taxes for them.

[quiet lance]

even if its just on their website and not GCX just give to the kids

[quiet lance]

Ironmace recives no benifits whatsoever from this

along with every other game in the event

[vague gate]

Bro you might as well get a free emote out of it like what are you even saying

[distant comet]

well, optics to be fair; just no direct monetary gain

[gritty sparrow]

OMG AN EMOTE POGGERS

[mighty rose]

so did inventory already wipe or couple days??

[vague gate]

That’s not wiping for at least another month

[quiet lance]

if you dont like it then dont donate for the torch, just give to the kids in need. Thats the goal, the skin is a way to say thank you

[mighty rose]

@vague gate the season just ended?

[quiet lance]

ST Jude accpets donations year round

[vague gate]

No it ended a while back when they did the semi wipe but they’re not wiping again until middle to late August

[mighty rose]

@vague gate so the timer no longer accurately reflects the end of season?

[vague gate]

There is no timer only for arena season

[mighty rose]

oh..

[distant comet]

Nowhere am I criticizing, I am just making an objective statement. I have no problem with the event..

[quiet lance]

awesome!

[graceful kettle]

@zinc sparrow Will u wait another week seeing everyone spamming for a Solo to revert it back ?

[vague gate]

Bro solos is so trash imo just a bunch of landline rogues and barbs duos was where it was at

[distant comet]

rogues still using landlines?? damn bro, they need an update

[graceful kettle]

What do u mean barb duos , u cannot stack classes in HR

[covert furnace]

All of my gold just dissapeared wtf @zinc sparrow

[distant comet]

I believe it was meant to be read, "barbs. Duos"

[vague gate]

It was.

[covert furnace]

literally 10k gold was just wiped from my account wtf

[graceful kettle]

landline rogues was not really viable in solo R last wipe tbf

[sinful gull]

what are the odds of sdf will bring multiclassing for solo only back? .. just leaving it here to say i told you so

[vague gate]

Are you crazy? You could literally sit in a dark corner on most classes, as long as you built right, and get free kills. Coming from personal experience 😁 It’s literally the most free way to make money in this game. You still can!

[graceful kettle]

Well , most of ppl were playing barb/cleric/fighter with 200hp 65% pdr , good luck with ur landline rogue

[thin bear]

Bring back solos.

[vague gate]

Land mine barb buddy. Last season was all a game of what barb can hit first !

[graceful kettle]

any build was godlike on barb until u had 330 ms , playing barb and any other class was not the same game

[sinful gull]

landmine is still busted with rogue being weaker than ever right now.. it was allways busted, except for the 2 weeks they changed it to make a noise and stuff if anyone remembers, it was bugged and the whole server heard it everytime you went invis.. that was the only time it wasnt super busted

[vague gate]

Land mine ranger is crazy right now the same guys been camping goblin caves in the rafters with windlass it’s crazy

[sinful gull]

yeah right that too

[distant comet]

they really need to just get rid of hide at this point, rogue should be more of a thief and have a bunch of useful tools and ways to navigate the dungeon that make him more of a swashbuckler/explorer; the assassin trope is sort of lame

[silver smelt]

@earnest current agrees

[vague gate]

I honestly don’t mind hide there’s very few rogues I feel like I run into that actually even use it properly. I think there should just be more ways to reveal a rogue in hide or more counters to it because a artifact lantern and those ghost pouches are not enough