game-discussion

[vestal sphinx]

its pretty crazy how harder this game has become since the new season

[latent shuttle]

w patch

[cold abyss]

224 hr was just minmaxing and abusing the gem socket system into cobalt gear with 3 rolls, purple chest, with +all rings and necks. It was a noobstomp simulator versus those that didn’t have that gear. Now people are mad they can’t gear check people because in 500+ gearscore you’ll lose your bankroll too fast trying to run +all grim smiles and legendaries. All you noobs know it. Change my mind.

For context I saw rogues in copperlight with two rolls minmaxxed AND DEATHBLOOM IN 224 hr. This needed to go to reduce the amount of queues and have a healthy pool of HR whether you’re just meeting the gearscore requirement or running true BIS legendary/unique. you can still get in and rat. BUT THERE ARE LESS GEARCHECK ABUSERS NOT MORE BECAUSE THEY ALL CANT RUN 500+ GEARCHECK! Understand now?

[meager crystal]

yes only minted gear is kept (gear you find on that hero)

[bitter citrus]

they're just going to go to 124 and ride the diff even harder

[thorny thicket]

sdf is waiting until every single player has unique named items before starting leaderboard (currently every single player only has full legendary). This is a way of ensuring fair competition in HR.

[open quest]

gear score brackets was the 2nd best change this game ever had right behind squire. removing them is just out of touch.

[wooden gulch]

you never played when this game started my friend. It became too easier imo, I'm no even trolling

[final robin]

where is the rookie mode?

[unreal quartz]

I dont understand what you mean

[steady python]

0-24's was the only acceptable option for gearscore. it provided a neutral gear playing field for veterans and casual alike. was also a great place to fill group with rando's and try to make friends without the fear of getting TK'd for your gear.

[severe acorn]

also it was a good place to farm some gold if u were broke

[uneven comet]

Gear checking becomes worse now. Not sure how you can't understand that

[woeful sinew]

braing back squire kit runs plllllllllease this is dumb

[scenic imp]

Newcomer lobbies are a pretty big essential, people immediately contest most things and it easily provides a block for more contesting parties.
9/10 times matchmaking, half the lobbies heading boss, or roaming for others. That or go 2nd. Otherwise you've got a bad pot of mixed crap.
If you don't matchmake or spectate, it's pretty easy to find that people generalized foot-traffic so much that it's plaguelike.

[fervent crescent]

ahahahah demon glee full true damage in normal gj IRON

[lean nebula]

Green bis in 124 seems like a problem I think it makes ranger and rouge far too strong with true damage all attributes. Also very disappointed with no druid nerfs that class is overtuned possibly more so with this new perk. These gs brackets in general are cursed there was nothing wrong with sub 25 lobbies. The dungeon randomization system is by far one of the most annoying changes to this game in awhile I hate trying to quest and not being able to find the rooms and, spawning into a dungeon late when everything is already gone is infuriating.

[agile tide]

Phys power bard with two crossbows, lute smash, reinforced, and dancing feet at high MS is super fun. Casters will fear you, no ms penalty with lute out doing big damage

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[iron oak]

Dude you can run full blue BiS.

[verbal stream]

bro a green neck is 500 gold rn.. cant make this shit up rn

[ripe valley]

the dungeon recovery service working?

[pale grail]

Can someone give me a TLDR of what the last patch notes actually mean to us?

[fathom lily]

aight

[languid leaf]

No its not cause i have to work and take care of my family and want to enjoy the game at afternoon, thinking about that NolifeStreamers clutch me every round in HR cause they farmed uniques and named seems quiet fair to me yeah.

[jovial spindle]

just ran into 3 cheaters in a row headshotting me with a dagger from rang a zwei cant even hit anyone else running into them?

[open quest]

this is a lie. you misread something and made up a scenario that isnt even possible... why?

[jade moon]

The importance of the 224 and under high roller lobby is being completely missed by the devs. It allows normal working people to not be completely destroyed by streamers wearing full uniques with perfect stats. You can puts on 224 gear score and fight other groups of people with the same score in an even match of skill. With it gone a large amount of skill expression goes with it. Now 40+% of fights will be decided entirely by gear score. It seemed for a long time they were looking for a way to make the game more skillful which is why this change is so confusing. They mention in the patch notes making people assess situations. This is completely out of touch, there is not enough time to tell if the barb rogue or agidruid running at you is in full unique gear before it is too late in most cases. Then you get gear diffed. I have never watched a game I loved get handled so horribly by a dev team that seems to truly care but makes horrible choices that alienate huge portions of their audience. Stop OVERNERFING (cutting a skill or ability by half is always too much), bring back the 224 and under lobbies, make the extra stash space for all characters, talk to real players instead of streams. Thank you.

[mossy wing]

Not at the moment due to a bug

[light cave]

bro, hell changes worst change ever

[cold abyss]

Gear checking is worse by the top 1% instead of the top 50% because less people can afford 500+ bis where everyone could afford 224 bis. Thus cannibalizing MOST hr lobbies instead of a few. Understand that?

[vestal sphinx]

ive been playing all the playtests, then i had a break and came back for the last season, the game was hard, then easy then hard again

[echo flame]

Tells us not 1 ironmace staff member actually plays this game

[unique nacelle]

they made hell literal hell bro 😭

[daring lichen]

this game is cooked

[vagrant plinth]

so are we waiting for an update or what

[mild sinew]

barb blood exchange , holy BUFF lol you run a high dmg kit and you can probably get 1/3 of your 190hp barb back , this is where the fun begins, this might override the torch bug too, we'll have to see

[steady python]

dude you act like the 0-24 lobbies werent a thing for "normal working people". you're exposing yourself as a casual.

[queen coral]

BRING BACK 0-24!

[fervent crescent]

@open quest It is i just deadd from one with glee and 4 pieces of green true in 124

[agile tide]

Make sure to get a legendary lute with nice stats for smashing, and run the silence skill (dissonance) to really get the panic going when you approach the magic lads

[thorny thicket]

Soapy tournament isn't until tomorrow, they have to start it then.

[uneven comet]

Difference is now you're getting gear checked by a legit unkillable team vs having a fighting chance before. No 224 kit was unkillable

[sturdy coral]

cap

[indigo ginkgo]

Interesting game, would be better if they had a solo or group mode to explore dungeons with better creatures, traps, 'I hate" puzzles, like real DnD.

[woeful topaz]

you sound like you're broke in the game

[final robin]

bring back 0-24

[red abyss]

how long does it usally take for smaller patches to be released? Im just wondering if i should hope for dungeon recoverys to be back on withing a day

[open quest]

like i said its a lie. full true isnt 4 true lol.

[fathom lily]

is it worth it to play like this on semi base gear? i mean, up to 124gs

[woeful sinew]

bring back 0-24

[languid leaf]

NEW PATCH BIGGEST L

[lean nebula]

I suppose this is a good way to reset how cheap gear was unfortunately they did it by making it the most miserable experience for the playerbase

[gloomy haven]

jup. pretty much. now its 50/50 either no gear in hr or like right now you get instakilled by 1400gs with ZERO chance lmao

[plush jackal]

BRUH I HIGHLY SUGGEST EVERYONE GOES AND MAKES A 124 WIZARD TRUE MAG KIT, IM RUNNING OVER SQUAD TRIO LOBBIES AS A SOLO WIZARD ITS FUCKING BROKEN

[scenic imp]

If you were here during playtests- and if you understand that baking from the box isn't a concrete topic. A dozen or so maybe more datasheets are considered.
And given, we have like. A gear score button to begin with (Still)
And yet the second one is missing. Perhaps this is temporary.
I will hope as much for those new to the game.

[meager crystal]

after reading #📢announcements they GS change had the right mind set but did not hit its target

[unique nacelle]

more like tell us what class people at im main without telling us

[rough plank]

someone tell me whats rangers new perk do pls

[austere shard]

can someone explain the account migration to me? If i switch to steam can I still play with friends that have ironmace launcher?

[barren moss]

YOOO @zinc sparrow THE LEGENDARY EDITION STILL ON COOLDOWN IT AINT EVEN FIXED CMOONNNN FIX YO DIRT A$$ GAME (said its fixed in patch notes)

[mild sinew]

Ironmace, revert the GS lobby changes please

[leaden sierra]

I just watched someone in normals on an enemy team take my soul heart into their inventory...

[winged loom]

we hate @zinc sparrow

[worldly wedge]

Guys why keep bufffing fighter holy

[spring glen]

Don't do it, it's a bait, I've had my marketcooldown reset 5 times, stick with blacksmith.

[broken goblet]

removes a positive buff from an enemy if hit within 8s of the ability

[wind vigil]

is goblin merchant broken

[tribal yoke]

really? @wind vigil yes for the time being dungeon recovery is broken

[uneven comet]

@sturdy coral very insightful addition to the discussion. Perhaps go back to mario kart

[foggy mauve]

game stuck on loading screen. Is there anyone else experiencing the same situation?

[radiant mortar]

anything new about Luck ? heard it's currently broken ?

[agile tide]

Yeah man that’s the secret, legendary lute is barely any gear score. If you want just run two white crossbows and strength/dex/ms on everything else. Don’t need knowledge bc only one song memory wheel with dissonance. And the silence stops ranger shotgun if you do it on approach. Just don’t expect to fight barbs and fighters like this

[languid leaf]

NEW PATCH BIGGEST L

[quaint tendon]

anyone know whats wrong with Druid lol?

[teal breach]

Whats wrong with druid rn?

[wooden gulch]

HUGE W 🙂

[quartz cedar]

Can you still multiclass?

[vestal sphinx]

why spam this message? we get it you dont like it

[errant dawn]

lets goooooo victory strike + shield bash lets one taping people with pavise xD it will hit like a truck 45 base dmg 100% effectivnes +20% victory strike xD

[upbeat notch]

Not at this moment.

[edgy rain]

I hope ironmace burns down

[stable venture]

TOUCH GRASS

[austere shard]

can someone explain the account migration to me? If I swtich to steam can I still play with friends that have ironmace launcher?

[barren moss]

not playing until they fix the game

[mild sinew]

yes

[raven vortex]

w patch hold da wire!! 👻

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[nocturne lintel]

Nice Update, now i have 10 rougs in my lobby sitting on iceblocks and shooting my ice from wyvern down LETS GO 🙂 and u know what? all have only 126 gear lets goooooo

[sturdy coral]

LMAO no it is though... nobody mid maxes better than a 224

[midnight sail]

me and my friend h ave bug cant switch weapons lol wtf

[bitter citrus]

all you're doing is changing what platform you launch the game from

[lean nebula]

Any class benefiting from true damage will just own, druid will be really strong too since they didn't nerf it for some reason

[young hound]

yall ruined the game for so many people its actually insane how bad IM is honestly.

[scenic imp]

I know it's hard to understand. But the knowledge of the game doesn't get beamed into their head guy.
If you played a year back, spawn-rushing was more generalized and extremely common. Do you uh, want that again?

[lime sable]

224 lobbies were good for the game. Because it was easier to attain but still had to spend a decent amount to max bis is 224

[mortal forge]

Make normals 0-224 and high roller the rest

[worn lily]

Stop lieing u just want 224 back so u can wipe lobbies for free

[broken galleon]

can anyone tell me if my items disappear if if it's not crafted or found by me in arena?

[frigid basin]

where there are more players blacksmith or steam?

[languid leaf]

i dont care i spam it until the remove the whole patch and getting their game fixed

[open quest]

so now instead of 224 min max those people will run into 600+ with named items... please explain how this makes sense

[gleaming harness]

bug going on in ice caverns if you go red u just exit the dungeon

[vestal sphinx]

sure buddy, whatever you say

[manic ivy]

steam for sure.

[grizzled yoke]

Seek mental help friend

[severe acorn]

@scenic imp so its better to have people jump mid raid right ? u fight 2 or 3 teams and a 4th one just spawns and come to contest ur loot that seems fair ? i hope they remove the option to join mid raid session

[austere shard]

so steam and ironmace can't play together?

[uncut root]

yeeeah you're gonna be waiting a looooooooooooong time for that

[umbral oxide]

800gs vs 200 gs is now normal, anyone implying that's fine has something missing in their head. Return the 124-224 HR and all is well, stop acting stupid.

[humble zodiac]

somehow, every patch IM seems to fuck it all up

[woeful topaz]

i think you don't understand how rare it is to run into someone with a named weapon in parties smaller than a trio

[lone granite]

what's the supposed issue with druid?

[scarlet hearth]

it makes sense if you understand the game company is broke and cant afford servers ROFLMFAO
top 10 dumbest change theyve ever made.

[scenic imp]

Ah, mid-drops were not a factor considered, but I do still hope it's not brushed aside.
Matchmaking times use to be 3-6 minutes. (Solo)
and I didn't pub queue as much back when

[sharp vigil]

remove fog and random from inferno the 10 min timer is already limiting enough

[frosty rose]

What does the new ranger skill do?

[barren moss]

hey theyll probably revert it in a couple days when the player numbers go down and the game dies

[red abyss]

how long does it usally take for smaller patches to be released? Im just wondering if i should hope for dungeon recoverys to be back on withing a day

[harsh sundial]

Add a bank vendor that stores your gold that can invest it losing or gain based onchance

[severe arch]

Rest in piss gear brackets

[gloomy haven]

first day of patch and already one... 100%of days

[warm solstice]

I’ve gotten 3 name kills in solos so far

[dark bear]

server dieded?

[manic ivy]

i dont think it matters but maybe i missed something. i can play with anyone regardless of launcher

[open quest]

yet another person who doesnt actually play the game pretending they do... i dont get it.

[mild sinew]

Instead of serving as stepping stones for newer players, the lower gear score divisions have become killing grounds with bloodthirsty players having little to lose.  @ IRONMACE thats literally the whole game , bring back the GS divisions

[weak kernel]

@glad thunder yes I am @ you in the channel, I spent over 2 months trying to transfer my account from blacksmith to steam. Sent screenshots, provided all information required, and now you message me and tell me you aren’t going to go through with it that I have to do another process myself? Are you kidding me… What a lousy customer service experience.

[near pecan]

i been playing this game for around 900 hours and killing a new player makes me feel bad i usually just let them go

[unique nacelle]

welcome to any medieval pvpve game

[nova girder]

who unlocks the spectral coinbag and at what affinity?

[lean nebula]

Maybe if they spent more time making new stuff instead of adding random changes we'd have monk by now

[teal breach]

Whats wrong with druid?

[austere shard]

happen to me too

[severe acorn]

@scenic imp well on solo it might be fine but on trios is huge issue .. cause one of ur teammate or 2 might be dead and u need to ress or secure their loot and a fresh team just join and come to fight u and get free loot of 9 or 12 people

[supple condor]

leather and not yet

[errant dawn]

who care about gs just pick your pavise and lets go two taping people with bash xD

[cold abyss]

224 hr was just minmaxing and abusing the gem socket system into cobalt gear with 3 rolls, purple chest, with +all rings and necks. It was a noobstomp simulator versus those that didn’t have that gear. Now people are mad they can’t gear check people because in 500+ gearscore you’ll lose your bankroll too fast trying to run +all grim smiles and legendaries. All you noobs know it. Change my mind.

For those saying now the gearscore checkers are even worse it’s not. Your average players that sink time into the game can’t afford 500+ gearscore checking its reserved for the top 1% who out skill you anyways. This eliminated the top 50% who could gearcrutch against those who didn’t bring the min max in

[gleaming harness]

leathersmith 150

[hushed crane]

Goblin seller doesn't return things now? just 0

[woeful topaz]

@warm solstice what map and server do you play then? I'd love to know

[lime sable]

I’m gonna by the cheapest rouge kit with all true on it and just hunt down these 600 gear score players because that’s how iron made wants us to play (never played rouge before)

[thorny thicket]

Bro @glad thunder gets like 400 pings per day in this channel. He 100% has it muted. He ain't reading your message lol

[obtuse agate]

What the actual fuck is going on why do i keep getting kicked down to 15fps

[ornate adder]

I am once again advocating for utility spells and abilities to be added that interact with fog of war. Please send to someone with more clout if you like it.

Abilities such as :

A spell that reveals the location of the nearest escape or down portal on your map

A spell that shows the location of the nearest shrine (i think it would be cool to pick the type of shrine)

A spell that puts a marker on your map of the location of the nearest player (doesnt follow them or reveal their class)

Thief skills that show the location of the highest rarity item in the vacinity (not carried by a player)

The options could go on.

[echo flame]

(Ur gana die first encounter)

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[sinful creek]

Just read patch notes - bahahaha yeah let’s nerf rogue and buff fighter

[sly leaf]

What a garbage game. the devs are so lost what to do. they did better when the court case was going on. cause they could not over think the little things now there just making the game worse with every update ignoring all the real things people are most upset about. Rip money spent.

[scarlet hearth]

me and my friends ran zero to hero HR ice abyss (we would just equip what we found), fighting against min maxed 224 is way more reasonable than fighting agaisnt ppl in 700+ full unique kits (a full legendary kit is 700+ btw)

[snow radish]

anyone else have a bug where they just cant switch weapons and are just stuck with whatevers out

[wooden gulch]

the blood exchange change is super smart man

[mild sinew]

They also seem to forget that without the regulation, theres gonna be so many timmys in the higher skill lobbys...

[lone granite]

Any bright soul got an idea what's the druid issue that they are talkin about in #📢announcements ?

[daring lichen]

the issue is it exists

[open quest]

i think you should reread this as "we were getting ran down by op barbarians and instead of changing our mistake with the class we revamped EVERYTHING"

[nova girder]

they're on the market place and I have leathersmith at 150 yet I can't craft them

[weak kernel]

I mean, as a line holder and someone who pre-ordered the game I figured I’d have a little better experience, @thorny thicket yeah I know, don’t worry someone else will see it and hopefully get it to where it needs to be. Whether it’s another dev or admin

[umbral oxide]

Panthers dash is like 15 m and the treant hits like 3-4 times in a second, non stop, ultra fast attack speed

[agile tide]

These are cool except for reveal a player, that one is terrible.

[severe acorn]

@scenic imp also its unacceptable to be able to rejoin the same raid and get ur loot back.. and to let u know it can happen and there is a video of streamer/youtuber who does it .. he dies on rope from nightmare goblin mage and he rejoined the same lobby and got his loot back...

[signal elk]

I think removing a gs capped HR lobby is a mistake. Some players will minmax a ton and try to mow people down but the fights are typically the most fair in gs capped lobbies

[heady ruin]

Maybe hit box related? I was playing on panther and got hit in the air around me and it still registered as a hit. I couldn't figure out what they were talking about, other than that

[fair yacht]

Make hatchets great again

[thorny thicket]

They forgot to remove it from the game. This will fixed during the tournament tomorrow.

[unique nacelle]

nah ironmaces priority is whoever is higher up in the role hierachy. for example theyre last priority is scribes and their first priority is tavern masters or mods/knights.

[terse coral]

bruv u go from gear score 10 to 150 with literally 2 found items, chill out and stop crying it makes no difference

[ornate adder]

Consider that youd have to drop a damage spell to take it and i think its not so bad. I could be wrong tho just my brainstorm ideas

[lean nebula]

Barb nerf deserved druid nerf needed

[cold abyss]

224 hr was just minmaxing and abusing the gem socket system into cobalt gear with 3 rolls, purple chest, with +all rings and necks. It was a noobstomp simulator versus those that didn’t have that gear. Now people are mad they can’t gear check people because in 500+ gearscore you’ll lose your bankroll too fast trying to run +all grim smiles and legendaries. All you noobs know it. Change my mind.

There are 100+ min max legendary teams. There are maybe 5 at best queuing at anytime. There could be 10-15 in total but they don’t run all day everyday. Half the population was running 224 bis and that’s why you’re mad. You can’t stomp every lobby versus those that don’t have it. Now you have a chance to get gearchecked back. You’re mad when you’re not the only one who can do it. So farm and run BIS then if you’re actually good at the game

[olive mural]

wait wait if I switch to steam I can't cross platform play with ppl on blacksmith launcher?

[uneven flower]

not gs that matters it's the stats on the items if u 124 w shit stats and meet truedmg u dead

[woeful sinew]

makes no differfence being spawn rushed while u try kill ur first ever skelly by unique wep using giga chad squads? makes no difference? hello ?

[crimson delta]

is there any intention to ever let casuals play between them in this game or i'm waiting for a unicorn? cause getting chain stomped by the crazy 4000hrs+ crowd will get tired very soon. i know i'm bad, but the game is fun when i play it with other bad people, so it would be nice to have a place to do that.

[gloomy haven]

lol even then u are better off then 320 vs 700+

[agile tide]

Anything that breaks the dungeon diving feel and encourages hunter killer spawn rush behavior is bad imo. This is why random dungeons are good in the first place

[echo shuttle]

so whats the critical druid issue they fixing?

[gentle canopy]

guys dose the dungeon recovery still exsist?

[terse coral]

surely in lobby lower than 124 you will get an actual Unique weapon bro

[vast ravine]

Super fast healing as rat

[quartz cedar]

yeah, its the goblin merchants service

[median ocean]

can we PLEASE just remove druid

[woeful sinew]

yeah nice mate point still stands min max 124 sweats in noob lobbies is v dumb

[ornate adder]

Yeah, i see that. Maybe helping find boss rooms would be more along the lines of that vision.

[hazy nacelle]

Ngl I like the changes. Now fully geared I can match the stats of a squire gear barb

[frozen ridge]

has anyone else seen that one guy in arena who doesnt bring a weapon and only uses lantern shield

[hollow lance]

true let’s just make it all one queue

[odd sky]

these lobbies are hype now i like it

[cloud jungle]

man I loved queueing 0-24 3's and just matching up with random people. that's kind of gonna be dead now

[tiny ether]

My first boss i learn is ghost king and now hells randomized kms

[ashen willow]

which quest line do u need to finish for crafting rubysilver doublets?

[iron oak]

Tailor.

[stable venture]

just make it all random bot game

[tulip pagoda]

gear score change thing is fucking ass

[gleaming harness]

so Ironmace listened and nerfed barbarians but then they messed up all dungeon system. IM yet again finds a way to fuck up every single patch and make the game worse

[fair portal]

Yes they gained the brainrot debuff overnight it sucks

[barren moss]

this is fuckin sad for noobs

[cold abyss]

224 hr was just minmaxing and abusing the gem socket system into cobalt gear with 3 rolls, purple chest, with +all rings and necks. It was a noobstomp simulator versus those that didn’t have that gear. Now people are mad they can’t gear check people because in 500+ gearscore you’ll lose your bankroll too fast trying to run +all grim smiles and legendaries. All you noobs know it. Change my mind.

There ARE NOT 100+ BIS legendary/unique teams. There were 100+ BIS 224 teams. You were gear checking and can’t compete on the off chance you might get gearchecked now. This also eliminated an HR pool which further dilutes how many BIS legendary teams you can even encounter. Cry about the thing you’re saying you’re about to have to deal with while also abusing it in 224. LOL

[hardy stump]

10 spell druid is insane now, single natures touch and bam, 70% hp healed
e: didnt meant to quote

[grizzled kettle]

no disrespect but this whole patch need to be reversed. allhumdulilah

[pallid sapphire]

inshallah the gs change will be reversed

[white coral]

than make that cobalt gear a higher gear cost, boom fixed

[sturdy coral]

the 124 queue kinda lit actually. people still fighting like crazy but now there's a chance of a comeup

[agile tide]

If people weren’t going to 100% minmax 224 then they were gonna get gear checked anyway. Not much difference

[strange ginkgo]

whats the issue with druid?

[compact shadow]

Anyone else's game take like 10+ mins to boot?

[serene rune]

So in one week we will go down to average 5k players again, noice

[pale granite]

why isnt gobling giving anything back?

[serene mesa]

so what's the major druid issue? is it the instant rat healing?

[tardy forge]

disabled
READ #📢announcements JESUS

[pulsar finch]

I understand what you’re saying but in any event the gear stomping will now be infinitely worse regardless

[nocturne prairie]

@glad thunder Tagging again. Same here Texas. I was banned a week ago with 0 explanation. 3 day then 2 days into it became perm banned. Their support is the worst ive ever dealth with. I still have gotten 0 explanation why i was banned

[fervent palm]

Learn how to play the game, everytime you run HR you’re just running into YT’er teams that run you over anyways now no one is gonna be able to compete without a capped GS

[autumn wren]

That’s what I’m tryna figure out. Like can’t they tell us what the issue is so we know why the game is going to be shut down for another three hours in the middle of a Friday?

[barren moss]

yall better find somethin else to play

[median ocean]

they just shouldn’t fix it and just remove druid

[surreal thistle]

Yall forget there still is gear based matchmaking in the formula. You will likely still be matched with similar gs, there just aren't separate queue which was increasing wait times.

[white hemlock]

fun way of baiting people in 125 HR 😄 buy some super cheap uniques that go for 100 gold, like 3 of them and go into HR (u will have like 125 gs), the person who loots you will have a fun surprise when they hit the market xDD

[warm axle]

It is indeed healrat, its back. All I'm sayin

[modest maple]

./

[unique zealot]

Just delete Druid and turn game back on, nobody cares about them.

[dense hemlock]

Why the F would you make it 0-124? This is the dumbest decision ever. Good luck not losing all the new players that were startin gto get into the game. Putting us casual players and new players against the sweatiest of players . This was DUMB.

[sturdy coral]

<25 was already not a casual queue my man

[fierce tulip]

this happened to my friend a few wipes ago, in the middle of a match he got banned for no reason, it took almost a week for them to realize it was a false ban.

[minor compass]

Anyone know if account transfer is working as intended?

[tardy forge]

So god damn wrong i got in a lobby with a lvl 7 13GS warlock, 41 of fame so not a high lvl player tho

[bitter fox]

guys where is the hidden statue lever?

[pale granite]

yippee i lost like 10k

[white coral]

huh ytou think sweats were playing 0-24 GS lobbies...

[woeful sinew]

point still stands thats where new players went and now they are forced to vs sweat squads min maxxing the 124 cap and rushing spawn to lobby clear

[viral wedge]

i was enjoying hr but not now. because im not min maxing with atleast 300 gs plus just to play again wtf

[daring lichen]

on the statue fella

[harsh cedar]

Why are we still not nerfing barb

[woeful topaz]

his situation sounds like he was temp banned for cheat inspection, they investigated it and banned him permanently

[hard rock]

Did you manage to reach anyone in support or no

[grizzled yoke]

No, just bloodthirsty neanderthalls running at you for your squire kit

[nocturne prairie]

i wish that was the case for me. They banned me and now 1 week in said get fd its the final decision. STILL providing me no reason.

[vestal sphinx]

poor guy, thats less than 1 troll pelt, you must really be bad huh?

[strange ginkgo]

What is the issue with druid???????????

[iron acorn]

Is anyone else unable to switch between weps and items. I m stuck with my hands out

[vapid sable]

Wait gents is the game up or not? I saw the healrat problem but did they take the game down to fix it or are we just dealing with it till they hotfix?

[white hemlock]

there is instaheal exploit/bug

[compact hollow]

W sdf w vision

[severe acorn]

0-24 was a good place to farm gold in case u were broke and have a fair match up and good place for new players to learn the game.

[cold abyss]

224 hr was just minmaxing and abusing the gem socket system into cobalt gear with 3 rolls, purple chest, with +all rings and necks. It was a noobstomp simulator versus those that didn’t have that gear. Now people are mad they can’t gear check people because in 500+ gearscore you’ll lose your bankroll too fast trying to run +all grim smiles and legendaries. All you noobs know it. Change my mind.

You won’t run into YouTuber teams every match they just eliminated a whole HR bracket it is only one now. There aren’t more min max abusers in 500+ there are less. There were 100 + min max abusing team in 224 hr at anytime given. If you think it will be worse that there are going to be infinitely more gearcheckers you’re delusional because people can’t afford it. They run out of BIS and have to be more budget friendly in their HR kits widening the pool. It’s no longer BIS or nothing like 224 was.

[tulip spear]

Slow barb down while yall patch

[gloomy haven]

never experienced anything else in 224hr!

[final robin]

where is rookie mod

[fair portal]

Huge L 99% of ppl don't like it lol

[sturdy raptor]

astagfurllah they will buff bard soon and fix the songs

[sturdy coral]

99% meanwhile we got 26k online

[viral wedge]

now new players go againts sub 124 gigadads wooohoo

[latent swift]

did someone say druid rat heal is back?

[tardy forge]

your songs also cancel for no reason at last note? i thought i was the only one

[fringe garnet]

I love this update, haven't had a chance to play but I'm a Fighter main sooo excited to try out the new skills

The joke is it feels like they were just added because they were pointless before

[light narwhal]

Why did they make the spectral bag split? Now I cant just upgrade my bag?

[woeful topaz]

keep your excitement in your pants buddy not everyone likes fighters around here

[silver escarp]

Removing gear-based lobbies in high roller is dumb, they are just going to revert back to whoever has legendaries wins the lobbies and everyone else is bait. This wipe was sooo good because of the gearscore lobbies and now we once again go back the game being unplayable for those without insane playtime to gather hordes of legendaries

[hard sierra]

removing sub 124 is so dumb, what is ironmace thinking

[astral remnant]

Fr

[placid folio]

it WAS the most casual mode you could queue before the update

[snow radish]

wait till you experience the new feature of you not being able to change equipment and you just getting stuck with whatever was out when the bug occured 🙂

[next glacier]

new players don’t have a chance in >24? let them get minmaxxed in 124s 💀

[scenic imp]

If they had a system where it could mark an identifier to their character when they die, and blacklist them from mid-drop to that particular session in some type of manner, it would be very easy to filter out that issue. So hopefully they think of something rather than removal of the mechanic altogether. It is likely very benefitial, outside that scope.

The boss issue, yeah- but that is often times always a possibility given nature that everyone doesn't go down ramp or make it apparent without enabling lobby wiping as well, that I'd have no certainty- it is an issue, mid-drops rushing boss as well

[digital lark]

BRING BACK 0-24!

[fair portal]

Just because players still play the game dosent mean it wasn't a bad patch lol

[woeful sinew]

bring back 0-24

[scenic finch]

do i lose items in arena if its handled and crafted by me?

[unique nacelle]

IM doesnt respond to pings lol. if you want support the best support your gonna get from any staff here is from tavern masters. IM dont know what support is and are bad at it lmao.

[faint zodiac]

as someone who enjoys bossing at 224 and not vs people in complete bis this change makes me not wanna play hr again

[cold abyss]

224 hr was just minmaxing and abusing the gem socket system into cobalt gear with 3 rolls, purple chest, with +all rings and necks. It was a noobstomp simulator versus those that didn’t have that gear. Now people are mad they can’t gear check people because in 500+ gearscore you’ll lose your bankroll too fast trying to run +all grim smiles and legendaries. All you noobs know it. Change my mind.

You won’t run into YouTuber teams every match they just eliminated a whole HR bracket it is only one now. There aren’t more min max abusers in 500+ there are less. There were 100 + min max abusing team in 224 hr at anytime given. If you think it will be worse that there are going to be infinitely more gearcheckers you’re delusional because people can’t afford it. They run out of BIS and have to be more budget friendly in their HR kits widening the pool. It’s no longer BIS or nothing like 224 was.

I can understand the 0-24 and 24-125 norms brackets. HR should be 125+ or no HR

[woeful raft]

BARDS hasnt received a single Buff or nerf since they last nerfed us. were a forgotten class.

[wild finch]

xome classes snot worth playing in 24

[dark meteor]

has anyone else arena rating reset?

[white finch]

so does goblin merchant not give your gear back atm?

[grim furnace]

bring back dead lobbies and dead game

[sturdy coral]

funny enough it wasn't! the 25-124 was 🙂 <24 was constant pvp battles

[mossy wing]

Please spam in https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/989065417161048084 not here

[pale granite]

mr i play this game 8 hours a day and have no social life over here

[pallid sapphire]

lmao fr

[faint spindle]

He said nothing about classes

[agile tide]

Seems fine to me, I’m bad at bard and still manage to take some ppl out

[nocturne prairie]

Tavern masters cant help with bans i tried them all

[maiden oriole]

who asked for these changes? God I love going into commons with people gear maxing

[tardy forge]

yup i love being the class good for pve but getting useless in PVP

[hard rock]

Yeah game is done for. It's dead for sure

[daring lichen]

give Terry the keys

[fierce tulip]

hate me for this, but im actually loving the 0-124

[fringe garnet]

Tavern Masters when they get DMs about in-game bans (they're just mods on the disc):

[crystal imp]

what with the druid bug?

[wanton iron]

90% of people id meet in 0-25 were really friendly? Maybe i was just getting lucky or something

[shut stratus]

so dumb question, dose will/Magic power/magic bonus affect healing along with spirit magic mastery

[limber sable]

This shit burnt

[dense hemlock]

Bring back 0-24

[digital lark]

BRING BACK 0-24! (both)

[indigo ginkgo]

I really appreciate that it is very easy to get good starting gear at low levels, and a good amount of money to buy what you need. 2 Looted rooms and the monsters, I got about 400g off of the market and gear left that I can use for upgrades.

[placid folio]

as someone who has done most of the quests this season on sub 25 and then minmaxed 125 to have fun PvP in normals insread of base kit, I found many other teams doing the same thing!

[grizzled yoke]

Definitely lucky compared to my experience. Might be because I mainly play rogue and the rogue hate train is real but a majority of squire gamers just ran at me like an animal with rabies

[keen meteor]

0-24 bring it back, ya focked uped

[mint kraken]

wow this patch is terrible just starting doing ghost king nows its impossible

[shut leaf]

norms has turned into a player hunting fest, literally the opposite of what their intention

[knotty kernel]

Give it more than an hour

[maiden oriole]

0-24 bracket was so chill, players were actually fun. Now it's just gear maxing and kos

[mellow canyon]

was it for "abnormal detection"? I had the same thing and was unbanned in about a week. Happens when you have connection issues. I was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Right after I got the temp ban that turned perma. I had to set up several support tickets, dm IM admins, etc. It's a broken anti-cheat that they still haven't ironed out.

[silver escarp]

bring back 225+ lobby in high roller and let us non-hardcore players play the game mode!

[unique nacelle]

you would think that because they all get paid (wardens+) they would do a better job at helping (their main job) their community when theyre facing problems 🤣

[wanton iron]

Eh true, i play bard and usually goofed off when seeing someone, so that might contribute a lot to it

[woeful sinew]

0-24 was my 2nd home for learning pvp and iron mace fooked me over thanks guys

[ivory lantern]

What was the critical issue with Druid?

[past rock]

SMOKE POTS REFILL AT CAMPFIRES NOW LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[daring lichen]

the core gameplay loop was solid and they change it for no reason again instead of working on new stuff

[shut stratus]

so dumb question, dose will/Magic power/magic bonus affect healing along with spirit magic mastery

[nocturne prairie]

its been 1 week and i got a response saying well review it and give you a 2nd chance (i was NOT cheating to begin with) then they email me again 2 days later saying NOPE youre banned bye. @unique nacelle Yupp thye couldnt care less

[dense hemlock]

BRING BACK 0-24!

[modern forum]

nature touch insta healing in rat form again, that or the new perk

[elder ferry]

I honestly thought game was great last wipe

[woeful topaz]

when's the next video geezer

[sturdy coral]

it's been like that though? normals has been pvp heaven all wipe

[snow oasis]

i just experienced a strange bug, couldn't unequip my bow with X, nor change to my spear , and when i put my bow in the inventory it unequipped, but after equipping it again I couldn't use it

[coarse nova]

[indigo edge]

whats the general cencus on the new patch?

[eternal jacinth]

Iron mace is making new player experience worse getting rid of gear brackets. If anything we should have more gear brackets. Hr is going to be miserable now trying to avoid kitted unique players constantly.

[shadow vine]

No way bros complaining about being banned for breaking the rules intentionally 💀

[pulsar finch]

aside from randomized crypts we’ve been going downhill fast this wipe bro

[fringe garnet]

Balance changes good, Gearscore changes wack

[mild sinew]

was it after using a ladder?

[agile tide]

Balance is all off in 24s anyway, there are only like 3 playable classes without gear scaling

[mellow canyon]

I'm a different TouchGrass 😂 very weird coincidence. Had no idea he existed until I saw him in chat and we had literally the same name with the same pfp. Weirdest coincidence

[cloud yoke]

change the gear score grouping back that was so good - i killed three players and all had trash on them, it's already crazy enough with open dungeon queues - this is so weird, why make it even more busy!

@glad thunder

[sacred river]

and magic healing. yes.

[tawny lark]

People posting the watermelon like we actually give a fuck about your social justice cause

[granite trout]

feels like every player nowadays only wants high level high experience players

[indigo ginkgo]

Bosses should not be easy

11:08 AM] @maiden oriole 0-24 bracket was so chill, players were actually fun. Now it's just gear maxing and kos

There was an article about how the small group of internet bully players who just want to smoke weed and pvp all day, put so much pressure on SDF to change the game to their liking. The result was that it pushed away all the players that wanted to have fun!
Say no to bullies!

[shut leaf]

I guess i mean solos really, nobody wants to chill out no more

[wild forge]

Y4mi literally had a stream where he was doing this. pretty sure he made it into a video where he was playing barb and going around with a unique hatchet

[supple raft]

Does anyone else think the fog in the howling crypts is arbitrary on the map? I just don't think it needs to exist and makes it impossible to locate key points on the map

[glad jackal]

By reading the Dev Comments I get "Because people were having fun but there weren't enough sweats, we are going to ruin everyone's fun, and get rid of the 0-24, because that wasn't what we were envisioning"

[outer tide]

you dont get gear back from gobo anymore?

[shut stratus]

thank you and ok, gives me ideas now

[woeful sinew]

so instead you think allowing min maxxers to get in on the action is going to make the situation better rather than balance the classes scaling ?

[nocturne prairie]

I was not cheating. it was a typo.

[sturdy coral]

oh ok that's fair, I play random fill trios

[elder ferry]

I honestly hate random crypts. It's cool to have unique layouts but finding a red or blue door is a huge pain in the ass. Quests to go to a location that may not even be there super duper sucks.

[plush jackal]

EVERYONE IN GOBLIN CAVES IS FEELING MY 124 7 TRUE MAG WRATH, IVE NOT BEEN KILLED YET IN 14 GAMES

[pliant venture]

So you can even be over 125 gear score in normal mode it seems.

[gloomy haven]

Thats just wrong, went with 149 and lobby is full with 600+

[woeful topaz]

aye that's actually a crazy coincidence

[snow oasis]

yes, i used a ladder before it happened

[gusty raven]

Can I get the gold coin chest from normals treasure hord? Or does it have to be high roller?

[next narwhal]

Devs did not cook with this patch NGL

[jolly spade]

anyone unable to switch weapons towards the end of nearly every game? what map were you on?

[granite charm]

Due to foreseen circumstances that were well within our control, the patch is once again full of mistakes.

[maiden oriole]

@indigo ginkgo Fr, I just don't get it

[sly canyon]

I think these devs just log in once an week go into the code and swap numbers everywhere at random and then let the players deal with it.

[late tendon]

What does it mean by “The random dungeon has been applied to inferno” or something im confused

[terse coral]

Wouldnt you agree then that it's not an issue about combining the lobbies, it's an issue related to Gear Scores of Off-hand weapons?

I'd say offhand weapons should be fixed so they have higher Gearscore, and that solves the problem?

[placid folio]

Any gear you find can bring you over the gear score limit breh are you new?

[agile tide]

I’m saying that if the goal is to be actually better at PvP then you should be playing at least 124s regardless, where you would already run into minmaxers

[pallid sapphire]

can't do more brackets bc poverty company can't afford servers

[sturdy stirrup]

What is the reasoning behind luck potions not stacking?

[mellow canyon]

Yeah that's all an automated system. I wouldn't take those support tickets seriously. It's literally an AI bot that copy/pastes the same messages. Just keep trying to escalate. I had to make a reddit thread that got 70k views for me to finallly get some attention on the issue. Sorry you're dealing with it man... False bans are very frustrating

[river whale]

it's a bug when you swap weapons, when you on a ladder

[dim sand]

Demon armor warlock should be able to use the new crafted wyvern leather

[stoic field]

Anyone else lagging likke crazy after patch?

[supple raft]

I don't get why I can't just have an actual map for the randomized crypts

[sacred river]

the scaling modifier on whatever the spell is affects both the additional magical healing and the multiplicative magic power bonus you get so it can be a pretty confusing system, but it does definitely scale w both.

[spring zealot]

the gear score change is dumb af seeing barbs run full cobalt with legendary weapon is stupid as shit coming in as a lvl 4

[eternal jacinth]

The vision is letting 1khr unique gear players steam roll everyone

[pliant venture]

Nope, but it is funny this bug wasn't fixed.

[hearty musk]

dev team is actually fucking dumb

[woeful sinew]

so while im trying to figure what my class does im being one tapped by sweat lord 3 mans and TTK in 124 is much lower than squire kit lobbies and now you think its more balanced and BETTER ?! for learning pvp xD

[grizzled yoke]

This is a good point. Going in without being level 15 already is now an even BIGGER disadvantage

[chrome fog]

idk if people are complaining abt this but 224 HR was the best pvp, combining hr was a mistake - not playing triple unique simulator

[dire sky]

how is that even possible to be full cobalt and legendary in 124 wdym XD

[onyx trout]

lobby gear score changes are bad

[nova mural]

HO-LEE-SHIT...

Hey, know that thing we implemented for the crypts, that NOBODY asked for, and NOBODY likes?

Let's add it to inferno, too!

[jolly spade]

In the middle of all my dragon fights im bugging out and cant switch weapons or equiment

[gloomy haven]

100%

[woeful topaz]

i LOVE questing in the dark

[twin jasper]

Goblin merchants no longer recycle equipment?

[errant prawn]

what’s the new ranger skill do?

[river whale]

it was fun before the hatchet meta lol

[broken goblet]

its disabled currently - issues with it

[supple raft]

Right? JUST GIVE ME A MAP

[frozen imp]

lobbies are crashing?

[pulsar finch]

chat we are so cooked. I’ll check back in when water map drops

[spring zealot]

ive got the clip if ud like XD

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[silver iris]

eh i think its cool, much less spawn/boss-rush oriented and more exploration and spontaneous, so every game doesnt feel the same

[small ridge]

Randomizing inferno and giving it fog of war is the worst decision ironmace has made in months. Bossing is already tedious enough to learn

[golden yacht]

FOR REAL

[terse coral]

everyone has been asking for random dungeon generation, idk what are you on about xD

[grizzled yoke]

Use your brain. I wasn't speaking literally to that comment, I was saying that because 0-124 is the only gear bracket so no matter what you're at a bigger disadvantage for not having all your perk slots because now there's gear diff for sure. They need to change the game to not require level 15 for all perk slots

[agile tide]

I wouldn’t worry about dying while leveling a class if it’s ACTUALLY brand new to you. Most people in 124s suck and only like 30% are truly geared up. Meanwhile, you get more realistic class balance and don’t develop bad habits

[keen meteor]

the games dying, this is another crappy attempt to fix player population in matches and it always punishes the players for their bad service

[mint kraken]

couldnt agree more impossible to find ghost kind atm and everytime i do its to late or already dead, what a L patc

[humble zodiac]

L PATCH

[soft wren]

L update why randomize and fog inferno plus there is literally no reason at all to get rid of sub 24's its what i was bringing my new friend to play the game in

[austere sand]

still better than previous wipes where we had to wait for downs to open which was about 15 minutes before having a chance to even see the right boss to attempt to learn it

[brave iron]

need longer matches and not being thrown into a match thats already significantly progressed

[sturdy coral]

finally... new normal queue, recovery disabled... I can int alll this gear I've been stashing

[timid wing]

always i start a run in goblins, its like 10 min and the troll is already done

[errant coyote]

W patch

[tawdry ether]

so how do i get matched up with new players? as i saw something about that on patch notes

[woeful sinew]

dying while levelling is inevitable but going to happen alot more for newer players and will mean takes longer to level meaning they have disadvantage for longer fun imo also the 124 means squire kit is literally useless unless u want to be at serious disadvantages upon loading into a map

[stone willow]

how am i supposed to play hr without 700 gs now

[broken goblet]

tbf thats the killer, going into inferno thats got 9 mins remaining is extremely irritating, usually half the lobby has gone or boss is already dead

[spring zealot]

what is dumb especially for barb players is they have the perk and gear to cater to becoming absolute tanks/slayers in sub 124 while no other class can out shine it, barb is just dumb

[echo shuttle]

you be a new player....

[light glacier]

i cant launch the game

[quartz cedar]

is legend worth it?

[knotty kernel]

sub 24 is bad for the games health, always has been. We got tons of players during the playtests when no gear score existed, it was never the deterent for new players

[sharp vigil]

please for the love of god remove fog and random from inferno its already hard enough fighting there with the timer now I don't even know where I am going or if there is a blue nearby

[river whale]

it takes like 2 hours max to get level 15

[valid dove]

I cannot connect server - Am I the only one?...

[errant prawn]

what’s the new ranger skill do?

[agile tide]

I mean sure, but open some chests and boom you’re not in squire kit plus you’re leveling. Go down to inferno it’s free, so much stuff. All of a sudden you have 500+ gold and you too can run a kit.

[mossy bloom]

Bro, that blood exchange change is going to clap!

[heady ruin]

The fog of war in inferno is definitely tougher. Over the last few patches they took portals from certain tiles away. Still cool concept but maybe bring a couple more blues back.

[opal storm]

We got tons of new players during the play tests because big streamers were playing it and the fact the play tests only last about 7-10days

[dense hemlock]

For those wanting to bring better gear yall shoula just played 24-124 not wait for 0-124. Gobblin on them updates like no other. L update. Say goodbye to alot of new players 👍 unless u roll that change back

[nova mural]

WOWEE!! Thanks devs!

I was having SO much fun entering the crypt with only 10 minutes to find an extraction, in a randomized, fog of war'd map!
It was a really great idea of you to implement this feature to the inferno map, too!

[queen spruce]

brother you would not have made it in the days of the zone and 1-3 single blue portals randomly spawning across the entire map

[soft wren]

how does that even make sense new players dont wanna have to learn against mid maxed players

[stark belfry]

whos taking 2 hours to get 15 levels?

[hollow widget]

Does tree of life/nature's touch/ restore scale off of magical healing

[lean nebula]

It wouldn't be so bad if it was 4x4 and then 3x3 with less people in the lobbies but as it is now especially with room quests it's the most miserable experience

[whole frigate]

why tf would they remove gearscore lobbies

[tawdry ether]

yes only 3rd day on game and i dont wanna face the sweats since they took my noob gear range lobby

[woeful topaz]

not only that but if you end up dying to the zone before you find a blue the goblin merchant wont bring your stuff back currently LOL new players are in shambles

[worn lily]

lmaooo there is no way u couldnt find a red or a blue in 10 mins thats a skill issue

[errant coyote]

Nah, it’s great! Add it to every map! Bring back the exploration part of this dungeon explorer!!

[tawny apex]

Great change, instead of new players learning inferno against a few min /max people they get to learn against full 500+ GS uniqued players

[unique nacelle]

@pale minnow Is it against the law to engage in illegal magic, especially in the vault room of crypts, sir?

[woeful sinew]

bring back squire lobbies !!!!!!! 😡

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[steep sandal]

are u slow?. There are people who are employed unlike you can cant farm for 5+ hours a day to get "bis". under 224 was the most fun i had in the game where i fight people who are as geared as me bc gear doesnt cost much there (im not the only one in the lobby who min-maxes dmbass). this was a stupid update removing 224 was nothing short of a dumb idea

[wild forge]

for 8 seconds your arrows that you hit will remove one magical buff

[rapid roost]

its up to 124 from what i was reading

[knotty kernel]

I dont disagree, but we didnt have gear score back then, so no gear score lobbies wasn't the deterent.

@soft wren New players are having to learn against 1000 hour sweats as it stands. Everyone is going in to 24's because there is no cost to entry, and the timmies are getting bodied, by players with 50x their time investment.

The change atleast offers some incentive for chads to go HR

[sharp vigil]

brother I did make it in those days but that was when it when the game was still new and didn't have an alternative

[flint charm]

Yeah, ngl. This is very stupid. At least make it 20min or minus the continuous dungeon

[small ridge]

IM has no idea how to manage this game or the community. Inferno is impossible to learn now, there was already plenty of risk reward associated with going down there. Every time the game is in a decent state they make changes that nobody wants based on a vision that doesn't align with how the playerbase wants to play the game.

[lunar dust]

u know min maxing blues is the same as full bis in terms of money and dmg in just a lower scale right? W patch 4 gs brackets was doodoo

[foggy mauve]

la türk yok mu oyuna girmiyo bi yardım edin hele

[coarse gyro]

now your friend can gt one shot by min maxers

[near lagoon]

someone did the quest of the weaponsmith "destroy 10 spider pots during one ruins session"? because i tried and it didnt count the pots i destroyed in the crypts and inferno

[cursive escarp]

Bring back 0-24 lobbies!

[wooden edge]

What if this is the cursed timeline where Nexon losses the court case and never makes their banger extraction looter that’s loosely based of D&D

[stray acorn]

does hitting spectral knight as he spawns actually do anything

[dense hemlock]

BRING BACK 0-24 lobbies!!!!

[fiery dust]

VERY NICE!!! Amazing lag that threw the whole lobby out and we dont have our gear!!! Amazing IRON MACE!!!! Im really glad CHICKEN MAKES NOISES WHEN IT STANDS!!!

[opal storm]

Nobody knew what the hell they were doing in play tests, You can't compare play tests to the game today. I knew GS would come to DaD because without it, the game would die and only die hards would still be playing

[onyx girder]

are u sure its spider pots and not regular pots

[peak orchid]

Bring back old lobby system

[queen spruce]

if you've been playing since then and inferno is still hard idk what to tell you

[knotty lichen]

so ppl stop playing who camps the boss better

[whole frigate]

under 224 was mad fun L patch

[patent kraken]

Its regular pots not spider pots.

[river whale]

all maps are going to be randomize get used to it

[stoic field]

why is there so much lag now after patch?!

[tame ember]

Getting rid of 0-24 is just dumb

[vast socket]

So whats the play? Min max 124? Or go in naked and rake gear?

[sacred river]

its normal pots. any pot counts. except spider pots...

[woeful topaz]

it's most definitely regular pots not spider pots

[lapis ermine]

I just don’t understand these gear score changes, people are going to abuse whatever lobbies you give them at least people had the choice of what level they wanted to play against

[soft wren]

my point still stands its hard enough for new ppl to learn against 1000 hour sweats thats literally every game but they are making it even harder with no 24's and just catering to hr chads L update iron mace

[sturdy coral]

pretty easy to beat the mid maxers, do whatever ur stash allows you

[tawdry ether]

does anone know how to get matched up with new players? is it a detection thing or like is there a button for new people cause they did say new people will be matched with new people in patch notes

[fallow trench]

What do they mean issue with druid?

[severe sundial]

Just don't play at all tbh. Screw sdf and his vision

[vapid mountain]

why did i lose some of my items after i lost in the Arena?

[peak sparrow]

Why do yall loving complaining about Druid lol. It’s the least played class in hr trios

[signal echo]

anyone got a bug not being able to get weapon/utility out all of a sudden ?

[sharp vigil]

it's not that it's hard it's simply not a good design the ads and 10 min timer and other players I can handle pretty well what I can't handle is not knowing where I am where a blue is with only 2 mins on the clock after having to fight through all of that

[strange cedar]

i think there isnt a crazy issue with 0-124 being one bracket, but 125+ having no limit for players learning hr is also a bad idea

[stark belfry]

were they minted, aka found by you. or crafted by you

[humble cobalt]

Why my arena point from 1700 drop to 1100, weird?

[supple condor]

if they arent minted "Crafter by yourcharname" or "Found by yourcharname" you can loose em

[inner cape]

Yeah i so

[tawny apex]

Talking about learning HR not normals. Now newer people trying out HR get to fight full Demon's Glee sets etc. Should be amazing

[fossil kayak]

how bad was hatchet nerfed?

[fiery dust]

They realized that the class is fucking useless. Just that. Nothing more.

[velvet river]

No this is good, this lets people bossing have a chance to not fight the whole lobby on completion

[dense hemlock]

BRING BACK 0-24! Lets keep saying this yall!

[eternal vigil]

maybe add blues acbk into the runes you removed them from in hell? there were 2 rooms with blues outside of boss room kinda annoyin

[wooden gulch]

imagine talking for everybody. I, and I think I can speak for all my homies playing with me, absolutly love this random dungeon features, one of the most refreshing features added latetly in the game. But you'r probably a new player, had not the time to get bored by "always the same 2 or 3 maps already reveal". I mean there wasnt even a map at the beginning of the game, and it was fine

[wary flare]

How i can do the quest ''Interact with double stone door'' ? i go to the hell and interact with the door and doesn't work , why ?

[stone willow]

that's my main issue with this patch, 0-24 isn't a problem apart from leveling

[nova mural]

Forgotten Castle Experience:
Castle-
Skip everything, no point, just run straight to a red door.
Crypt-
Skip everything, find a red door, hover the area if you want but probably no point.
Inferno-
Skip everything, find a portal. Make a choice, clear the room and take loot, or get ready for everyone else hoping to find that portal.

Extract with under 500g worth of stuff, hopefully you killed that mob you needed for your quest.

GG

[sturdy coral]

#📢announcements message

[woeful sinew]

squire kit lobbies removed? time to find a nice nexon game to play KEK KEK KEK

[soft wren]

this doesent stop inferno boss camping either it dident stop boss camping in cryps why would it in hell

[tulip mirage]

W PATCH

[tidal ice]

i mean, either everyone is looking to rat boss, or rush an exit

[austere sand]

you have 500g worth of stuff because you keep skipping castle and crypts, you can still get good loot from those maps if you know where to look

[sharp vigil]

I have already made it to inferno 10 times today and only extracted about 3 times the rest I died because I spent 5 mins looting and another 4 mins trying to fight through the enemy to find a blue only to die right as I see one because I don't have enough time to deal with the enemies around it

[knotty lichen]

yup the amount of times ive seen the boss live and I had to live cuz of timer, because ppl camping the boss just grefing and playing who camps it better is ridiculous

[upper lily]

really good patch for new players, promote your friends to play the game!

[stark belfry]

bro what, fog of war is the best thing to happen to crypts in a while. these maps were getting stale and needed something to spice them up

[final robin]

i am not telling anyon i know to play this game

[agile tide]

I’m guessing the best Strat is to check your doors for adjacent extract modules first, clear portals, then loot

[foggy flax]

Hope we get random monster spawns alongside random dungeons eventually

[unborn cape]

pots,not spider pots

[midnight salmon]

will I get banned for having the word 'but+t' in my name?

[mighty whale]

yes. straight to hell

[woeful topaz]

i'm sure new players would appreciate getting 3 centaurs in one room

[junior spade]

Probly go to prison for that mate

[dense hemlock]

Lmao yess bring your friends to the most imbalanced matching so they can get one tapped 60seconds into each match!! Great idea KEKW

[robust anchor]

I was wondering if you go 3 fighters and all take shield slam and just slam the enemy team endlessly, wouldnt that be like kinda cheese.

[misty depot]

It would take forever but is the unlimited money glitch with common squire gear on purpose? If you join a match and instantly leave you can sell all your common gear for gold…. Someone patient enough could do this non stop and make all the monies

[lone garnet]

and random traps

[fallow trench]

My bards name is RapierFamily and I haven't been banned lol

[wooden gulch]

boohoo they took my safespace

[velvet river]

Idk man sounds like a you issue, I’m hyped

[stone willow]

I had that in my name and they perma banned + jailed me for 2 months

[blazing escarp]

love getting ran over by people in full kits

[cursive escarp]

0-24 had the best fights in the game

[stray acorn]

sometimes i'll duck down under SK's hits and still get hit like wat

[inner ferry]

sounds like jmaybe people shouldn't have been smurfing in 0-24 lobbies

[woeful sinew]

safe? clearly never played sub24s much lol most fun most carefreee most enjoyment , best place to learn , even playing field list goes on

[severe sand]

Bro I come back like once every 6 months to see if the game is any better and it blows my mind that every time I check the Devs have somehow become more shit and continue to ruin their game

[safe solstice]

Devs are actually clueless. Every patch we stray further from God.
I'm outta here.

[soft wren]

oh no now that everyones gonna have gear hell will be cleared twice as fast and everyones gonna be at the boss

[tidal grail]

Idk why they would go back to only one gear score each

[torpid lagoon]

Goblin merchant bugged?

[empty sapphire]

are you a cat model?

[median ocean]

i didn’t have a queue time more than 3 seconds, why did we have to combine brackets?

[upper lily]

yall say every patch is unbalanced. just play with them in rookie mode. and theyre gonna get stomped regardless, this game has a learning curve

[eternal vigil]

gobo not giving shit back anymore?

[mystic jetty]

The game is the most fun it’s ever been

[feral prism]

I used to play under 25s and avoid fighting timmys. Now im forced to gear max in their lobbies and crush them to prevent third parties when im looting. Timmy crush is bigger than ever.

[stark belfry]

#📢announcements @eternal vigil

[fossil geode]

There was nothing safe about under 24 lobbies. It was a massacre. Head to the bridge and LET THERE BE BLOOD

[tame ember]

Where do we link steam and ironmace accounts?

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[hidden cape]

[indigo ginkgo]

You should have the game maps up on another screen so you never get lost. 8-)

[regal hollow]

Removing the brackets was the worst idea ever

[icy thunder]

Bring back the circle and remove the new spawning system. Make Dark and Darker great again

[faint sonnet]

WHY TF REMOVE 0-24

[broken goblet]

was good fun though, loads of pvp action

[sturdy coral]

4 queues -> 2 queues (+1 for new players)

[misty depot]

I used sub 25 lobbies to farm troll. Now imma have to deal with the min/max sweats running 125 gear smh

[crisp ingot]

When will we seethe cosmetics from quest

[thick mountain]

Well lucky you learned before hand lmao

[wooden gulch]

half of my days were on sub 24, and it clearcly get removed because of that, they just told it in the patch explanation : old player like us perverted what was think at the beginning as a place to new player. It was in fact the battlefield of veteran that were just spamming, having fun without having to loose time in stash, so it became a permafight/brawl and bloodbath. I'll miss it, but saying "time to find a nice nexon game" is just an insult to your own intellect mate

[royal thistle]

why the fck are rogues so tanky now lmao

[pallid venture]

does migrating my old squire blacksmith account to epic games give it the free legendary status? or do I stay a squire?

[tardy sky]

No more 24 lobbies is kinda sad shit was so much fun

[jovial latch]

if i move my account from blacksmith to steam, will i lose all the progress? and hours

[dense hemlock]

The few people defending the removal of 0-24. Keep suckling. Lmao cringy af. People want casual lovbies regardless. Doesnt remove the learning curve

[spiral canyon]

Sdf burnt it again…

[supple raft]

Aren't they random and continuous

[haughty patio]

i used over 25 gs just because a lot less people were doing bosses with gear, so my strat is ruined aswell lol

[primal lynx]

Leveling up my rouge asap, so I can just barely squeak into high roller lobbies and steal loot from 500 gs players!!!! This is an awesome patch!!!

[wind perch]

What do you need to craft "Studded Wyvern leather" ?

[granite parcel]

why you make this gear bracket changes?

[tulip mirage]

W PATCH

[stray acorn]

nope but I heard that before. ig I'm just doing something wrong or not looking down far enough in the moment. legit same thing happened again

[woeful sinew]

insult to intellect would be de valuing human beings time and forcing them to spend more time in stash

[ornate fractal]

L PATCH

[nova mural]

I used to go to castle, ACTUALLY PLAY the map, and then choose.. wanna go to crypts or just get out?
I could drop some stuff in expressman, but, not too much in case I was going to inferno, too.
Then in crypts, same thing.. ACTUALLY PLAY the map, and make the same choice- stay for more, or just leave with what I got.
And then inferno, IF there even was anybody left that came down that far, I'd worry about them while doing inferno things.

NOW- before I even press start I have to repeat to myself "DON'T even bother with the first two maps. Just go straight to inferno."

(and hey, nerds, there's a 3 minute slowmode on this chat.. STOP replying to my post- I truly couldn't give a fuck... Imagine using your one message per 3 minutes just to try and argue with me. smh)

L PATCH

[soft wren]

very few ppl like the fog and gears score changes it will get changed back

[final robin]

L patch

[unborn cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864249206188277821/1329851423390957708/Zrzut_ekranu_2025-01-17_173428.png?ex=678bd826&is=678a86a6&hm=8d600ae6cf45fb3f82f1f5191acc0ed8832e245630e2065997c09b77089b82a7&

[indigo hedge]

Guys what is the critical issue with DRUID?? please tell me

[icy thunder]

Fire SDF - Change my mind

[stark belfry]

🫃

[limber torrent]

oh wow. fighter gets stronger? but why not make barbarian weaker? fighter seemed pretty balanced?

[agile tide]

fog and random dungeons are the most fun thing to happen to the game. Running the same path over and over is the most mind-numbing thing ever

[mighty whale]

When druid dies it dupes everything

[upper lily]

fighter balanced lel

[copper dune]

How bad is fog of war inferno

[faint sonnet]

removing 0-24 has to be the worst idea and deterring any new players from enjoying this game....... worst patch ive ever seen on a game trying to grow. just cut out so many casual players revert it

[tawny apex]

I wouldn't mind the fog change IF they stopped me from entering halfway through a damn map as well

[sturdy coral]

wow the amount of copium saying 0-24 queue was the casual queue is crazy. ppl were sweatier in those lobbies than HR

[wooden gulch]

sub 24 got removed because it wasnt casual at all, that is exactly because of that if it was removed, can you read? Or do you even play in fact ? I got 3.5K hours and spend half of it in sub 24. Because it was fast, easy to start, and fun fight because everyone with the same gear. But for creating a casual environment for beginner ? It was a huge fail, sorry

[rigid ether]

bring back expressman plllzzzzz

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[whole acorn]

i do miss petting Otto

[dreamy igloo]

Does this really happen? I'm just going to open the doors in hell and when it opens it gives me an error and returns me to the tavern without giving me the mission, this is shameful, I've been running around the damn map for an hour and a half.

[sick depot]

W patch. Good choice to merge under 24 with the other normals Que.

[woeful topaz]

i'd say more bloodthirsty than sweaty, the noobs would fight you when you'd be chilling trying to quest just for them to die once they do fight

[warped oyster]

why general chat disapears

[whole acorn]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/989065417161048084

[tardy sandal]

yheaa now i need to plat whit streamer whit 900gs and play 11-12 hours per day when me i just have 1 or 2 hour per day to play

[dense goblet]

I'm ready excited to try it tho, being able to gear diff people with 13 gear score is fucking hilarious

[soft wren]

just because you cant see doesent change the map tf its all the same shit still like eating a burger blind folded and saying mmmm never had this before

[tardy sky]

24 was just fast fun where I didn’t have to put a kit together just hit squire and go smack people no risk just fun. I don’t mind risking gear just gonna miss the ease of 24 lobbies

[tulip mirage]

People dont realize how bad new players are. You really need a rookie mode for them to learn to fight a single skeleton. People will cope with having to put gear on now.

[stark belfry]

the modules are also randomized, which is a w cause playing the same map layouts got boring asf

[fallow trench]

the difference is that now the escapes aren't really distributed that well or the statues

[woeful sinew]

at least 0-24 was a much more even lpaying field than sweat min maxlobbies masssssive L switching the lobbies up if theres a problem with dead 124 lobbies and ppl free farming bosses trhen thats their issue forcing me to go vs those players is a mistake

[crystal imp]

is there some damage bug or what?

[copper dune]

is anyone playing hr scince dungeon recovery is down?

[agile tide]

I mean that would be true if you didn't know what toppings were on the burger? Without randomization you run into people at the same choke points, fight in the same modules, and are guaranteed last to loot zones if you spawn late. It's way different

[upper lily]

0-24 was the real mechanic abuse, squire kits dont provide damage so the sweaties go in there and noob stomp . i like this addition of rookie matchmaking, gives em a chance

[dense hemlock]

Says the guy with 3.5K hours. I stand my ground. U are a sweatlord. U are not a new or casual player. U have no say in what works for new players. U clearly dont get it. Im not gonna argue with yu piss off

[queen spruce]

Replacing sub-24 skill diff with gear diff is so fucking funny

[scenic minnow]

these devs are dumb af

[wooden gulch]

same same, but we have to admit that in term of "creating an environment for beginner where they can learn", well, it was a huge failure

[dry thicket]

Hey guys. What is the best combo of additional stats on a grimsmile ring? I play long sword fighter

[sick depot]

Yes, people crying about sub 24 is hilarious. There is supposed to be some sort of risk when entering the dungeon and now you will have to put on a couple hundred gold in gear. Womp womp

[hidden trail]

They are hiding the lobby changes behind their dying player base. They do this every season after the player base falls off.

[faint sonnet]

dumbest change to a growing game these devs are clueless, barb buffs now no 0-24 they are trying to kill this game and its gonna work

[sturdy raptor]

max health pdr phys power action speed

[small radish]

WHERE IS RANGER FOOD RECHARGE COME ON SDF

[forest vector]

lol dungeon recoveries just don't work anymore. gg sell the game IM

[stoic field]

i cant even change weapons this patch is broken asf not to mention the lag that was never there before

[wintry flume]

ur either rage baiting or disabled

[fossil sonnet]

And just like that with one update, the developers mark the death of the game for this wipe 🤣

[wintry rock]

They nerfed BE and hatchet this patch

[slate stream]

bro gamings dying half the shit in the patch notes was suppose to be fixed last patch @royal thistle buff fighter but the nerfs are rogues smoke pot like make it make sense

[cerulean marsh]

any1 else got a bug where you cant post a specific item in trading post?

[royal thistle]

yeah bwecause we all know that fighter needed a buff lol these devs are clueless man....stop buffing fighter and barbs

[soft wren]

but you do know what theres gonna be i know every location on cryps im cool with random generated map that helps but fog of war does literally nothing nd spawning in late was dumb to thats a whole diffent topic

[chrome sun]

Delayed of me bothering to hop on between now and prolly the next couple months. Path of exile 2 is just too fun and sorry to say, dark and darker isnt

[paper forum]

I'm fucking loving this patch ngl

[whole acorn]

I understand that people are upset but that doesnt mean you need to be rude to eachother

[dense goblet]

Why do you think they haven't released adventure mode? It's their last card to play haha

[lucid hazel]

barb still broken??

[regal hamlet]

This patch is not good. Sad

[velvet bone]

it's been months and they finally discovered a critical issue with druid

[quartz cedar]

what was the fighter buff?

[snow heron]

Guys did they confirm that ur getting under 24 lobby loot now in that 124 lobby? Cause its rly pain in the arse to get gear SSF as you could before.. meh

[dense hemlock]

L update! Anyone who is trying to learn the game i recommend you uninstall to save u the misery. If 0-24 doesnt get put back.

[limber torrent]

i don't understand why the people here are so mean to eachother. we all share the same interest of playing the game. why don't people be nice?

[agile tide]

I think that fog just needs to reveal the whole module you entered or at least a little more than now because it's janky. Without fog everyone will just path to the boss or vault like they used to

[barren mortar]

go to dungeonbourne guys,. this will be dead in 1-2 years . no1 will play this game anymore since the devs do not take the project seriously at all. the amount of bugs this has despite continious weekend patches show that the team hasn't learn anything in the last 2 years of development. assets are bad and the game as a whole is 0 comapred to other extraction type of game. Ironmace is a joke

[jovial jackal]

Perfect patch, now i can fight against the min maxed 124 people, if sdf would be a employee, he definitly would be fired long time ago

[stable stump]

HELP Should i transfer to steam?

[dry thicket]

But why no +all atributes or true damage? Is it really worse than those stats you mentioned?

[elder ferry]

Dungeonborne is already dead

[sick depot]

People who are mad about the normals change should ask for a PVE mode. Maybe play some Animal Crossing?

[woeful sinew]

bring back 0-24 please ironamce have a heart for new players FFS

[wooden gulch]

🥹 typic, ty for that

[rotund matrix]

shit ass update

[twin spear]

if you want to, i prefer having my games in one place but it really doesnt change anything

[stark belfry]

the highest peek of that game in 24 hours is 36 players'

[meager copper]

did they reset rank plasticity alongside arena rank

[novel cape]

gearscore changes to bring less bloodshead and its noting but blood thirsty players hahaha

[sturdy raptor]

true damage doesnt do as much cuz u attack slowly and +all cant be socketed in so unless you craft a grimmy with +all the other stats r probably better

[keen breach]

Anyone got an image of the current spectral coinbag materials needed ?

[cedar palm]

True

[haughty mist]

Same old shit. Lot of issues that should be ironed out before we even see it. Think I’m done with this poo pop

[daring temple]

thanks for the randomized inferno. i really like doing quests like a 9-5

[cobalt hedge]

@glad thunder why do we make the endgame area for ruins random? people have had a problem with it before and now we are making the hardest area of ruins the same? great vision...

[modern oracle]

L update

[royal thistle]

Fighter
Fighter's Breakthrough duration increased from 10 to 12 seconds and also grants 7 additional movespeed.
Fighter's Adrenaline Rush grants a movespeed bonus of 5%.
Fighter's Taunt duration has been increased from 8 to 10 seconds, and the PDR/MDR bonus has been increased from 10% to 12%.
Fighter's Shield Slam damage increased from 25 to 45, and the slow duration penalty applied to the target increased from 2 to 3 seconds.
Fighter's Spell Reflection duration changed from 3 to 5 seconds and the player gains a 5% MDR bonus while active.
we all know the fighter class is for people who lack skill in this game.

[wintry rock]

Sounds like there is a new match making system for new players

[uneven flower]

dark and darker 99% stats 1% skill fuycking shit patch shit dev chinese trash

[slate stream]

as if join in progress wasnt bad enough now theyve merged both highroller lobbies

[sturdy coral]

the problem is too many players still think they're new :/

[verbal stream]

pretty sure its ass

[peak shore]

Ive always been baffled they hadnt changed it

[limber torrent]

what is skilled class to play?

[lean nebula]

Fighters literally just meant to be a jack of all trades class and if they wanna buff the off meta stuff good

[soft wren]

if they wanna change the 3rd party bossing this dident fix the problem on cryps it still happens to me so why would it work on a smaller map if they wanna fix the 3rd party problem randomize dungeon and make it bigger only way if not everyones still gonna rush boss on cryps and hell when i play with my friends we all rush different directions till we find boss then meet up

[rugged thicket]

whats the bug

[elder ferry]

So now I can pretend to be a fighter main and yell at people seething

[wide light]

goblin bugged again?

[dry thicket]

Money isn’t a problem pretty much. I just wanna know the best possible stats. So you’re saying true damage if worse than physical power for my case? Could you explain why that’s so exactly?

[polar talon]

Lobbies 0-124 is a serious Win in my opignon

[echo fable]

I forgot how fun it was going in squire kits getting shit mixed by fully geared people and being outrun.. super fun game, fuckin stupid devs

[nova mural]

99% of #game-discussion is us NOT liking something...

So let me throw out, just for good measure, that the "search" function in the marketplace..
.. BIG win. It's actually very nice to use. Big QoL upgrade, thanks devs.

(again, you fucking neckbeards, stop REPLYING to my post like im opening dialogue with you. I truly don't fucking care about your opinions)

[agile tide]

24s was already like 15% new players and 85% veteran players boss farming for free lol.
@soft wren Yeah it's not an easy fix but these changes show they are working on it. Will just take time to find the optimal solution. SDF said in the last Q&A that he wants bigger maps anyways

[sturdy raptor]

im not saying its worse im sayting true dmg is better when you attack quickly. at most true damage is like +2-+3 damage but phys power is probably better

[ornate fractal]

L Patch

[fossil geode]

DELETE THE MARKET IF YOU KEEP GEAR SCORES. If you have to self find your gear. Gear score min/maxers won't be able to reload as easy. So to get a perfect 125 kit won't be as easy as just spending gold on a new kit. This will also limit the amount of min/max juicers we see because it will take longer to get full bis. AND makes it more of a dungeon crawler than a market dungeon raider sim. I've been here from the very first 200 person test. The market ruined the game. Trading post is fine good like getting lucky finding an item as it scrolls past you.

[lucid hazel]

every game with a market has a search, this is not special lmao, should expect this feature

[woeful sinew]

make under 24 lobbies require a 10k gold key to open boss rooms iun under 24's problem solvedf? NEXT

[woeful topaz]

still left out a feature of just looking for the max version of that stat or even a drop down menu to look for a specific roll of that stat

[sudden wadi]

how do i get blacksmith id to migrate my account to steam?

[broken goblet]

thats the main gripe i have with it, if it just revealed the module it'd be fine. I'd also go a step further for QoL change for it to reveal what your teammates have found too but that's probably up for debate

[shadow moss]

jesus for the love of god bring back the gear score this is crazy 3 and 4 and 5th parties all morning! change it back!!!!!!!!!!!

[sonic ginkgo]

I feel like the normal dungeons its okay, 0-124 there's really not much change anyway. On high rollers though, that's when that's a problem, at least high roller should have both options available

[thorn spruce]

ahh yes loading into a half over hell lobby no idea where youre going is a beautiful thing

[zenith cloak]

random hell is the worst thing i think ive ever seen

[dull parrot]

+All, +Max Health, +True Phys, +Action Speed or Phys Power idk how well parry damage scales

[coral garnet]

i'm letteraly die in loading -_-

[elder ferry]

Is this working do I have fighter flair?

[calm plover]

Hatchet still in the game 😞

[wanton vale]

iv never expeirienced such unplayable lag before, is this happening for anyone else after update?

[chrome sun]

Agreed 🙂

[fallow trench]

seeing what your team mates have seen map wise would make this 1000 times better. Let alone seeing the whole room, that'd be a god send.

[burnt walrus]

Wait so there is no Dungeon AP system ranking this season yet? Only Arena rankings is going live?

[pure wave]

i started game didnt even spawn and get killed by own randome teammate whats is this bullshit

[peak shore]

atleast BE isnt OP

[drifting fossil]

6 freaking wolf pelts is so aids to collect

[soft wren]

if you load in with the raid half over and you arent near a portal gl lmfao exspecially if your learning the game you might as well just give up

[sturdy coral]

randomized inferno is cool, doors are in places i never saw before

[agile tide]

Easier just to take boss crafting mats out of norms, plus some of the gold nodes. Still get the marvelous chest and pile loot but now it'll just be people learning boss instead of a 6 man farmer rumble

[vapid dagger]

It’s cringe

[astral wraith]

Randomized Inferno is not the play you move way to slow in inferno makes it to luck dependent to fight boss

[spiral hinge]

breakthrough buff is nice

[verbal stream]

i feel like if they have a set price for a certain rarity itd make the game fire.. like for a green make it to where if the item is listed for more than what theey set it. so if its set to 100 gold cap if you try and sell it for 200 it costs 300 gold to list it.. then running kits would be actually obtainable to the shitters

[woeful sinew]

exactly why merge lobbies and force new players to go vs boss farmers and min maxxers isnt that creating two problems outr of one ? rather than fixing the core issue

[digital isle]

Lovely change, I bloody enjoy spawning in basic gear and being murdered by an ass hat has 124 GS

[broken goblet]

ye, revealing the module aside - just being able to see what your teammates have explored would actually make it way more meaningful, honestly surprised it wasnt thought of

[final robin]

the rubber banding just gave me cancer THANK YOU IRONMACE

[misty urchin]

I’m not home right now. What does Lifebloom aura, and purge shot do? If anyone got in

[inland hatch]

I like randomized dungeon but fog of war is a55

[modern oracle]

yep

[lean nebula]

If they have to randomize the rooms make it 4x4 and then 3x3 for inferno drop the player count and make it so you can't load into games that have already started

[kind lance]

For blood exchange how much health you get back for damage received 50%?

[sinful gull]

if they had normals 175 max id just play that but 125 is just not enough to really build anything.. Even if im geared I prefer some sort of cap that makes fights more equal, doesnt even have to be HR just 175-250 or so

[fathom atlas]

No image, but it's 1 Spectral Fabric, 1 Troll Pelt, 4 wolf pelts, 3 spider silk, and 2 Giant Bat Hides

[queen spruce]

Replacing skill diff with gear diff in normals is so fucking funny. just an insane way to say you are fixing pub stomping

[quaint sluice]

I cant fucking learn troll because rogues keep camping me

[royal thistle]

rogue is another class that didnt need to be buffed to the point wehere its unkillable

[fallow trench]

life bloom makes u heal 2 for every time u heal, turns off shape-shift. purge shot removed 1 buff for every hit

[long mango]

Kill the rogues

[fallow basin]

Parties of the same class cant enter highroller? what the fuck
how is that fun

[royal stream]

hey did they do something to normal spectral knight? killed him 20 times (counted) and no fabric,wasnt the chacne 20%

[daring lichen]

become the rogue yourself

[agile tide]

124's is just right for building the most heinous landmine rogues I've had to deal with though

[feral prism]

• 1 for new players. Good players are forced to kill you in the two queues you can go to meanwhile in good old under 25s u could leave a timmy breathing and feel ok because no risk.

[indigo ginkgo]

I have to say, farming bosses for the item and gold from the market has to be the most boring gameplay imaginable. But that would mean, the rest of the game is even more boring at this point. Oy!

Yes @supple raft The first map is static, when you go down to the next level, the map is random, but you will notice elements on the map that gives you an idea of what map be close. No guarantees.

[tender rock]

Does purge shot remove second wind

[limpid topaz]

Hi guys, quick question.. can we craft a rubysilver chest piece with an item bought on the market and bring it to arena without losing it?

[left cliff]

soooooo anyone else stuck in loading screen?

[peak shore]

what does druids lifeblood aura do?

[woeful sinew]

dming racial slurs to ppl who dont like a ptch says all i need to know about the commmunity tbh

[wise tartan]

Yes

[lucid hazel]

Prob not, it doesn’t get rid of rage

[sonic ginkgo]

People be complaining for some unknown reasons lmao. Not talking about you, but I disagree on what you say, 124 to 260 high roller only, then 260+ for high roller two. 124 you can get good gear, it will not take you to only 124 if you look for it.

[hushed forum]

where is the double iron door?

[brave iron]

crafting or extracting with a looted piece of gear "mints" it so yes - as long as it is minted to your character. youll see your name on the item when you hover over it

[broken goblet]

been like that since last patch, imagine 3x barb with blood exchange

[past coral]

While I love playing wizard, may try going back to rogue

[maiden bear]

0-25 SHOULD OF STAYED!

[sturdy coral]

nah randomized inferno is lit, modules have different execs now depending on where you enter. 3x3 so if you want to boss you don't have to go far

[rapid roost]

0-24, 25-124, 125+ is just best of all the stuff we've tried idk why the push back everytime we do this song and dance

[low talon]

@glad thunder Keep buffing rogues even tho they are ruining the game for everyone. Bravo

[tawny apex]

There's one in inferrno by the SK room

[final robin]

UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS
UPGRADE YOUR SERVERS

[iron acorn]

please remove fog of war. Memorizing the map felt like part of the game

[sinful gull]

+8 true dmg is 80 gearscore both magic or phys... ive said it earlier, they cant have the min max cheese lobby be the entry point for new players... sorcs, survbow rangers, rogues, wiz have some mean true dmg min max options.. Its the definition of "wtf am i playing" for new players

[modern oracle]

everyone just going in at 124 and wiping the lobbies more then 0-24, great change you just killed your game lmao

[wooden gulch]

💯

[ebon marten]

getting slumped by 125

[fallow basin]

Why cant two people of the same class do highroller, thats so anti fun

[balmy sonnet]

check dms if u havent got it yet

[echo shuttle]

everyone knows in D and D you dont know what your stepping into. Its better this way and levels playing field a bit more for newer players as memorizing it is pointless now.

[subtle heart]

I actually liked the 125-224 gear score. It was the most fun gear score to run

[knotty lichen]

everything will be rando eventually so get used to it

[random gate]

Hey ironmace while ur diggin in druids guts can you fix dreamwalk getting hit by mobs, ty

[blazing blaze]

Stop being poor and put a lil gear on then

[queen spruce]

I have been stuck in an inferno loading screen for 5 minutes, fucking system can't figure out how to put together the random inferno blocks

[void saffron]

IMO, fog of war and random maps are good for the game. Boss rushing and map memorization is not healthy…. IMO

[stone willow]

i got hit by a goblin through a door

[vestal silo]

is stables in crypts?

[spring glen]

getting your teeth kicked in by 2-3 barbs is not that fun on the recieving end.

[hasty compass]

This is the first patch in a while that I can't find a problem with anything. Yes maybe a few more barb nerfs would be ok but I can live with it. Finally something to be excited about 0-125 and 125+ is the best thing I have been hoping for since the new season is out and green and blue items can actually be close to bis. I just hope they add new perks and skills for all characters. Rogue specifically because atm you can only play him in one of two ways.

[foggy flax]

Give crystal warmaul

[left cliff]

and then you memorize it and its boring. memorize the modules instead you will be better

[woeful sinew]

stables is whre the death chicken sleeps in ruins i think

[sonic ginkgo]

Add a # before each of those and you'll see big

[worldly ridge]

with all the drops this season has had ya'll complaining about 124 gear score... sounds like a skill issue

[novel cape]

the moved the death chicken but yes

[agile tide]

I'm wondering if they want to slow down the economy. I liked 224s but I was just running around opening high roller gold chests for free with no risk other than my lame thrown together kit. I collected like 2k worth in a run without fighting anything but mobs yesterday

[upbeat roost]

what kind of critical issue there is with Druid?

[soft wren]

so was having under 24's stopping you from playing a 124+ and high roller?

[daring temple]

gonna lose new players because of it

[past coral]

Some people hate any type of change for some reason even the good ones. Trust Me there’s not as much push back as the people who constantly complain make it sound.

[copper dune]

You seem to have forgotten the fact that dungeon recovery is disabled

[maiden bear]

@ebon marten Not really just annoyed that the classes im trying to level now have to deal with full blues against me

[lean nebula]

It's truly stupid when they release a new class you level that new class and you can't play with your buddies cause they tried out the new class as well but in general it makes no sense when some of the strongest teams are just buffball and even less sense when classes have different playstyles like healer cleric and melee cleric I genuinely believe they make these changes just to get under the community's skin

[kind lance]

Can someone answer my question how does blood exchange work now ks it 10% of damage do?

[iron oak]

Wait it is?

[glad jackal]

Fog of was as in crypt

[iron acorn]

idk man so far the random modules really havent made the game any more fun.

[shrewd bolt]

if anyone is wondering what the critical issue is with druid it is it's existence

[limber torrent]

It isn't. I got my weapons and things last night from the gobblie

[polar talon]

0-124 is a win but i would have keep 224 for HR

[sinful gull]

the whole class is basically a critical issue...

[brave spear]

They disabled it today because of an issue

[ebon marten]

im not the best at the game, so im getting slapped around lol

[glass silo]

Idk if this helps but i tried it be4 and when i deal 70 dmg blood exchange heals me for 23

[quaint sluice]

please add offline mode, impossible to learn bosses with all the sweats rushing them even in white lobbies

[near dragon]

anyone have fix cuz dark and darker on epic games freeze at connecting and i cant play

[sleek lark]

the insane healing in rat form is back so if you drink a pot and go rat form you instantly get 100% health

[tawdry ether]

get it on steam epic games suck

[inner zephyr]

ARENA MATCHMAKING IS GARBAGE. how do i take time to build a good set just to get paired with people in grey gear like WTF

[trail blaze]

thats literally the game bro just get good at pvp

[stuck sand]

remove druids

[fallow trench]

should have been 125 to like 250+ for high roller

[quartz cedar]

skill issue?

[glass sentinel]

They accidentally buffed blood exchange but hatchet nerf should make it fine

[restive flame]

Is dungeon recovery still off?

[cursive anchor]

Why is the gear cost sky rocketting in the markt?

[vestal silo]

its a lifesteal ability

[fervent swan]

it feels impossible i hated it with crypts but i could tolarete it just find red really quick and done with it now its in inferno i was looking around for 5 min for boss room to only be able to find 3 teaming druids

[sacred widget]

So the devs want to make the game more accessible and in the same patch remove the new player lobbies which is squire gear and now people cheese 124 gs in squire lobbies.

[twin spear]

its 10% lifesteal so you deal 70 damage in 1 hit you get 7 hp back, not sure if its affected by mag/phys healing
it means heavy slow weapons will heal more per hit and fast weapons like hatchet are less per hit so it evens out and it much worse than before

[long pumice]

anyone know about the Rookie Queue and how to get in it?

[woeful sinew]

literally squire is totally useless now

[copper dune]

Fire idea, play rogue in hr, tail some 500gs player, take the scraps from his kills, profit

[upbeat roost]

nice

[tardy forge]

dont feel like playing anymore, if u dont come full gear in 0-124 its legit unplayable

[digital isle]

I wonder what someone who has no gear/coin is supposed to do in 0-124

[glacial pier]

I want the GS brackets back. This is truly terrible getting bulldozed by 400+ GS people in HR.

[vast prawn]

Also want to know this so I can kill noobs

[wintry rock]

Just pickpocket bro

[scarlet rain]

See y'all next patch

[rotund matrix]

The complaint this guy has is that learning the bosses and rooms is hard when you have to constantly pvp. I don't think an offline mode would help but it is very hard to learn bosses when you have to fight off multiple 3rd parties every attempt

[modern oracle]

say it louder

[iron acorn]

ur not alone brother. Random modules sucks but I guess they are doing it for casuals

[wet kiln]

Goblin is again bugged anyone ? 😄

[polar talon]

Beside true damage between 25 GS and 124 there not really a huge gap

[hot walrus]

its bad for casuals too tf 😂

[desert pendant]

IMAGINE GOING DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE FOR HOURS 2 THEN IT TURNS INTO 5+ HOURS

[obsidian shore]

Yeah it’s annoying for sure, guess they don’t want stacks of three of the same class but for real if that’s the deal make it for everything then or fuck right off.

Three barbs running hatchet and blood exchange wallops lobbies , then buff the other classes? I dunno, they could even set it to only two of the same class can play in HR at least it gives variety

[dire mesa]

almost like rng is too unbearable

[soft wren]

literally and getting rid of under 24's dident create anything new for players wanting to run gear they always could run gear just not in under 24's

[agile tide]

Lurk around the edges as rogue and loot all the lions heads and gold chests and then in one game have money for a kit

[raw thorn]

is goblin merchant broken in ice caves rn? my buddie just foze to death a few minutes ago and hasnt gotten any gear back

[sinful gull]

the big thing is being able to not use the market when you dont want to. now you at least have to get a trash rolled purple weapon and a neck or so to compete...

[mild chasm]

whats this rookie dungeon

[junior spade]

Thanks for getting rid of gear score, really enjoying showing my friend the game and him getting smashed by barbs with legendary hatchets, thanks for that

[stuck sand]

why are rare shadow masks 420g

[tender dove]

Is it only us, that can not change weapons?

[glass silo]

That doesnt sound fun to play dont u think lmao

[long mango]

Learning boss is supposed to be hard it’s a PvP game killing a boss with out having to fight other players is non rewarding sounds like some gold farming shit lol

[earnest parcel]

Have to say the ability for me to wear a 124 gearset again into base kit players isn't fair to them, even though they need to prepare for harder content. This has been attempted over and over, the brackets made the zero to hero more healthy and fun for everyone. I want more players so they need to have some different approach to assist newer players easing into the game before they learn the harsh truth that this game can be hard to pickup initially. There's two sides to this obviously, but there has to be a different approach now that you can Craft and Socket gear aside from building a kit. Crafted and Socketed gear can be insane with best in slot stats. Here's an example of just a Ranger (Not even a heavier built 124 Class like Barbarian/Bard/Fighter/Cleric)
124 Gear Score
25% Action Speed, 25% Physical Power Bonus, 130 Health, 315 Move Speed.
-Dread Hood
-Copperlight Riveted
-Brave Hunter's Pants
-Foul Boots
-x2 Grimsmile Rings
-Frost Amulet
-Common Weapons / Chest Piece

Share your thoughts on it with me 😄

[tranquil mulch]

224 was the best mode big L that they took it away now I get to lose all my good gear to dudes running around in full unique and named weps

[thick mountain]

The gear fear cope today is hilarious. You can still learn, no it won’t only be geared players now because everyone will be there. 90% of people are going to be in random shit they find in raid.

[fair yacht]

bro i just had a bug where i can't pull out my weapon, tried everything wtf

[digital isle]

Lets just remove bosses and mobs, since this is Pvp game.

[unique mantle]

What’s broken bout Druid ?

[quaint sluice]

im good at pvp, but I cant fight 3 people at the same time, just win a fight to immidiatly get stabbed by a rogue

[limber badge]

What gear fear? It costs like 2k to buy a decent kit on the marketplace
This game hasn't been hardcore in months

[fallow basin]

How long has it been where two of the same classes cant go highroller?

[agile tide]

I mean it's the solution to your problem that's all I was offering. Plus, I do the same loading into HR with the worst kit you've ever seen and coming out with over 1k every time. I think I died once last night and got in numerous fights. People run when you shoot them cuz of gear fear often enough

[modern oracle]

nope, everyone brings in 124 and wipes the lobby even though more than half the lobby is playing at 0-10 gs

[hot walrus]

ur sooooo corny bro, not everyone gets joy from ruining other peoples games. like the other dude said remove all loot and spawn in front of each other like a csgo warm up then you can pvp right. theres this crazy mode called arena for just that

[grim wasp]

I kind of agree. Usually I withhold judgement until I can fully see the implications of such changes. But this one feels bad right off the rip. We know how flip floppy IM are. Hopefully they realize the mistake.

[glass sentinel]

How is barb now with changes

[dire mesa]

sitting down fixes it

[lean nebula]

Pickpocket is miserable, nobody should be forced to do it. You sit their channeling just for it to break at the last second and nobody stays still in full resourcefulness Gear it still takes too long to channel and all you ever get is healing, the boss rooms are to big to get close enough to them and even if you do you need to take 4 perks which makes you useless if you ever actually have to fight

[mossy hatch]

Are they still patching or can you play?

[crimson yoke]

Ive been reading here for a moment and seems like this patch is not good lmao

[bitter charm]

slay the noobs 2.0 @glad thunder not every second part is good so you learn it dont do over and over the same stupid mistake you wanna make us happy then dont do this with us

[mild sinew]

its a ladder bug, have to unequip and equip a weapon, it was a bug even before the ladders were added.. but they fixed it.. i think lol, its only happened to me in Ice Cave after healing on the ladder somehow

[obsidian shore]

Barbs op right ? Lol I feel your pain brother lol

[icy thunder]

I am starting to wonder how Nexon would have done with this game

[nova mural]

WOW.
Wish I could go to inferno to try and complete this quest.. but I'm on the first layer and happened to find a wolf pelt.. so.. guess i gotta extract. Because I'll be damned if I make it all the way down there just to not be able to even FIND an extraction, later.
(don't reply, idgaf)

[cursive belfry]

steam achievements when

[daring temple]

@glad thunder sell the game every update you do is awful

[sinful gull]

yeah our current systems cant deal with this .. you can get +8 true magic on sorc and its just 80 gs, weapons are not needed.

[azure storm]

bruh add uniques back to norms if theres no gear score range on HR

[chilly rose]

The critical issue with druid -> it's in the game still

[mighty rose]

you would think we would have at least changed the dungeon to not continuous and kept the high roller and norm bracs the way they where lol. now we went back to stretching the gear scores to include a large difference oin damage lol. think im out for this season lol. just gonna get stabbed by a rouge waiting for everyone to go down😁

[late finch]

@glad thunder so did Judgement get faster or slower? I don't know if the 1.00 is the time in seconds or a modifier

[long mango]

Bro I play caster wiz I’m fighting the same amount of people in cave troll and ghost king 3rd partying its excessive but never should killing a boss be free 😂

[grave hill]

is golden craft out?

[trail blaze]

Dungeon explorers fighting over boss loot is literally the game breh

[vestal silo]

yes

[deft pond]

your hands get locked sometimes you cant draw weapon or book

[foggy loom]

We demand a zero-tolerance, no second chances anti-cheating policy.

HARDWARE BAN EVERY GOLD BUYER EVERY TIME

[sharp tendon]

Thanks for the patch - I'm off until the next good solution. In my opinion, the decision to divide GS into 4 ranks was the best solution in terms of player equipment balance.
A beginner? You're going to low gear. I've more or less settled in, but I'm not ready to take risks because of HR mobs yet. Go to 24-124. You're already good with mobs, and you can fight with average players, but at the same time you don't want to drain a few thousand gold to compete with "META" players? You're going to 125-224. Are you already a pro player? You go to the streamers and the celestials on 224+, where the whole whale can consist of at least unique ones. And now that balance has been disrupted. I hope it won't be like with some teams that introduced good solutions, removed them, realized that the latter wasn't worth it and didn't return them, as this could show inexperience in the game's balance design or for other reasons. I sincerely look forward to the return of the previous system.

[thick mountain]

Then get good, run 124 bis and wipe the lobby? It’s not expensive lol. It’s beyond easy to run one dungeon without doing any bosses and come out 2500 gold +

[narrow stump]

does dungeon recovery just not work anymore?

[final bronze]

Do we no longer get Goblin Merchant to get stuff from HR??

[unique mantle]

That doesn’t sound like an only Druid issue tho? U sure that’s what was critical about Druid ??

[quick egret]

another freaking epic update! @glad thunder thanks for removing the only good gs range!!

[limber badge]

Faster by 0.25 seconds

[blazing blaze]

Honestly sounds like the biggest issue is all these bozos that are too scared to go into highroller so they just run optimized 124 gear sets to shit on the noobs and feel good about themselves

[late tendon]

does goblin merchant give cosmetics?

[vestal hound]

Anyone notice a loot difference in HR now without 225 ?

[sturdy coral]

I won’t miss 25-124 or 125-224 ever. Those queues were turribl

[modern oracle]

it would of already died, but it seems nexon is directing the patch notes

[earnest parcel]

Absolutely agree, the loot drops can be amazing and much better, although I'm talking about controlled stats, not randomized ones. So for this example assume it's a team terrorizing Ruins murdering fresh players. The loot table on Ruins is lower quality. Good point though.

[soft wren]

2500+ lmfao your wild for saything that minimum 75% of the ppl make a raid is 250 at best

[rotund matrix]

It's not about the loot though, that is not the point anyone is making. what I am saying is that it is very hard to learn new bosses when you have to fight off 2-3 teams every time. I think maybe they should add some sort of testing arena so you can try the bosses with no loot or incentive. This would also provide a way to test builds.

[cobalt oriole]

Lmfao no. They screwd with the server on purpose because they were the hero and gave the ENTIRE game out for FREE . They had to do dmg control and intentionally messed with thr servers

[turbid hill]

224 was goated

[mild sinew]

@ IRONMACE, revert the GS lobbies already

[blazing escarp]

can't even quest anymore

[agile tide]

True but you can't stop them. I do feel bad for new players that have to fight mr skill issue rogue sitting in the extract with true damage

[sleek helm]

this patch is the biggest pice of *******

[tranquil mulch]

Like I'm a decently skilled player but 225+ lobbies were an actual fucking nightmare and idk if it's just me but I enjoy having to build akit within a limit it adds a nice aspect to it

[upper lily]

how do i party up with someone i just played with

[wintry flume]

noobs mad. back in my day, there WAS no gearscore. im thankful i get to bring in like no gear now and stomp people with BiS.

[late finch]

I demand playing the game with UEVR lol (not really. I'd probably be able to see around corners and through walls)

[shadow acorn]

Had somebody issues with equping stuff in the game?

[open breach]

Why in the world would you take out 24 lobbies

[sly crescent]

welp the game is messed up again. glitch where you cant equip weapons or hotbar for items like potions or pickaxe

[final bronze]

So i just lost a 17k gold set that NOBODY looted, and goblin merchant doesnt wanna bring it back???

[hidden cloak]

What's the craft for studded wyvern leather?

[sharp tendon]

Does this slightly reduce the effect of stuff on combat?

[nova mural]

the critical druid issue is rat healing.
pop a potion, shift to a rat, heal to full in 1 second.

[sinful gull]

I had that too in my first game -_-

[woeful topaz]

Should've read the announcements bucko

[midnight zealot]

where do i find the small wooden crate?

[slate pivot]

"An issue with dungeon recovery has been discovered and will be disabled for the time being."

[deft pond]

idk it happened to me in a row 2 times when killing wyvern especially on druid, almost never happened to me before

[kind blaze]

im not getting gear back on druid, is it bugged again?

[ancient oracle]

theyre everywhere just look around every corner

[crisp sigil]

i looted it thanks for free gold

[limber badge]

Read patch notes

[sullen minnow]

Damn what a terrible decision. 24gs removal punishes noobs, 224gs removal punishes normal people who can't be decked out in uniques every single raid
224 was literally the funnest and most balanced mode (still unbalanced I know), blegh

[unique mantle]

This was not an issue one of the devs main Druid and wanted to secretly cause an “issue” w the class 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[twin spear]

#📢announcements message @final bronze

[regal hamlet]

100% agree

[vestal hound]

Anyone notice a loot difference without 225+ now?

[earnest parcel]

I feel like they just can't figure out the best approach the dealing with balance on stats anymore. True Damage and All Attributes have always been abused because of how strongly they influence a build. At least it's not like it used to be with +3 All and +5 Weapon Damage lmfao.

[soft wren]

so why are ppl happy theres no under 24s could ppl not run gear before this update?

[mild sinew]

gotta read the patch notes before playing man, the Gob Merchant is off for now.. Ironmace just wants us to suffer this time around ig, im only going normals until its back

[polar talon]

Wich punishment? U can still go on 25GS and loose nothing whats the matter?

[sullen urchin]

great now new players are going to get demolish by people with coperlight gear under 125

[foggy loom]

If you are a new player wondering if these drastic controversial updates are typical... They absolutely are.

[spiral hinge]

they added special lobbies for new players

[deft cargo]

what kind of difference?

[warm notch]

24 loddies are important

[blazing blaze]

Yeah it sucks but I think 0-24 honestly was just a crutch that people get stuck playing day in and day out. Removal will hopefully let them flourish as players and move on lol

[keen carbon]

aw man no more squire kit lobbies, uber ass take ↓↓↓

[woeful sinew]

squire - redundant remove it or revert the 0-24 lobby change big pogs

[fossil geode]

I hope they expand the stash so the streamers can use 8 life after deaths per match

[rigid shoal]

🇯 🇺 🇸 🇹 🇫 🇮 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇩 🇫

[pale bane]

Y’all act like those squire kit lobbies weren’t already getting pummeled by hatchet barbs

[open breach]

Revert the patch 🗣🗣🗣

[wooden gulch]

new players already get demolish in sub 24 anyway, that's why it got changed : the first goal of building a nice environnement for new player was a huge failure. And now there are special lobbies for new players tho

[rotund matrix]

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[agile tide]

Conspiracy theory is that some f2p's will get tilted and buy the full version to use the market to compete. And some will just leave but they weren't paying anyway.
@blazing blaze I absolutely agree that you need to move up in gear to improve at the game, but truly new players do need that enviroment. Hopefully the rookie lobbies work well

[limpid blaze]

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[hardy pagoda]

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[ionic kayak]

100% needs to be 2 gearscore lobbies for highroller, how do you reasonably expect people to compete against 600+gearscore named item running godsquads, split Highroller into +350-

[sturdy coral]

#the-tavern << watch out you're gonna catch mutes

[sinful gull]

its mindblowing to think about that and we still have a pretty short ttk when it comes to rogues for example.. It used to rarely take more than 2 rapier hits for juiced rogues to kill ppl.

[limpid topaz]

there are special lobbys for new players now , im guessing sub20lvl

[glass sentinel]

Squire kit lobbies offered casual fun no more casual fun

[limber badge]

Time and time again it has been proved that scaling in this game is beyond fucked. That scaling provides way too much value on the higher end. But they consistently adjust static values instead of the scaling. True damage is just a bad mechanic in general for how much you can stack.

[humble chasm]

Is there a way to mint quest/token gear?

[marsh acorn]

WHY IS YOUR SHATTY MAINTENANCE ALWAYS WHEN ARENA IS UP??????

[restive tiger]

Fucking with the gear score is worse than buffing barb

[iron acorn]

The 4 lobby system was nice

[vestal hound]

Quality of the drops 💧 was getting a lot of uniques curious to see how much that will change or hasn't changed I never ran 125 just 225 hr

[nova mural]

so what determines whether you're a "new player"??
I have 677 hours played... 676 of it is on Druid.

Soooo.. what happens if I decide to play a bard or something?

[earnest parcel]

What exactly determines "Experimental Rookie Matchmaking" though?

A fresh account or a fresh character?

[light narwhal]

ice caves is crazy

[icy lion]

do i lose my kit with which i enter arena when i lose ?

[dire mesa]

revert the patch

[stone knoll]

yo guys when you link you account to steam do you get the DLC on the stream or just the legendary status in game ?

[sullen minnow]

24 removal = Noobs get even more roflstomped, statchecked not just skillchecked. Will drive more people away, no new players, panic again etc etc. We've lived this before lol
We'll see how well this "rookie matchmaking" works. I suspect it'll throw noobs into the wolves too quick but I don't know
Also this slowmode is crazy damn

224 removal also removes normal people, or well, we just get gearchecked by 24/7 players and move on I guess

[mild sinew]

the only argument is they want the normal lobbies to be populated like before the GS Divisions were added in, but that doesnt make sense since the Continuous dungeon system is in the game... nothing makes sense rn lol..

[hexed shell]

Removing 0-24 is a big f you for everyone who doesnt have much time to play. That sht Was the only place where you wouldn t get gear diffed and they removed it... I will still play but god damn it was already hard enough to convince friends to play this

[rancid jasper]

why rogue cant wear cowl of darkness ?

[spiral hinge]

not sure, if i had to guess probably amount of hours on a new account

[tribal walrus]

naked blue lizard Barbarian with a purple hatchet sitting crouched in a corner behind some boxes on the frost map lmao this game is unreal

[long kiln]

Bro wtf is this new high roller

[hardy cargo]

I don’t know why the devs make gear score changes like this when it’s proven time and time again that having the brackets is better, can’t wait for this to get reverted again in a week

[coarse pulsar]

goblin didnt bring loot back???

[hardy stump]

neither seems to be the case, I've been testing 10 spell heal druid in lowbie lobbies and every single time I've got 1-2 timmies, I've got couple hundreds of hours played

[iron oak]

My goblin merchant hasn't returned any of my stuff and I know no one has looted it.

[lost vortex]

yeah 3 times in a row now for me

[soft wren]

exactly and its not like any of the lobbys were dead so there was literally no point in removing 24s

[stone hull]

This is so dumb. Game isn’t even balanced and the thought was hey let’s through everyone in the same lobby. What the actual fuck

[cerulean copper]

agreed. its been a week since i started playing. the 0-24 was great.

[olive igloo]

they said in patch notes its turned off for now

[tropic axle]

wait til you have to get beamed through a wall with a lighting bolt from a soc

[tardy forge]

got nerfed

[pure breach]

Put the lime in the coconut

[alpine tapir]

Mid-GS lobbies is where the game was most balanced. Removing that is just opening up the impossible to balance high-GS bracket onto everyone. Literally just going to be mechanic abuse in every game now. Game is being catered to the highest level of play again.

[tame mesa]

Cool druid insta heals now

[blazing blaze]

Yeah I genuinely do too. 0-24 is an odd bracket where certain classes just DOMINATE everything and more veteran players go there to screw around and shit on people. I also feel like it incentives you to NOT equip gear which is a bad mentality. 0-124 doesn't punish a new player that maybe made it out with a nice blue weapon they wanna use.

[woeful sinew]

bring back 0-24 please have aheart for ppl tryna not min maxx and sweat their nuts off im just tryna play a chill game w friends and f around ffs massive L update in terms of matchmaking class reblance is whatever dont know enough about them all to have a say tbh but god dayum why remove fun lobbies

[proper whale]

Squire gear kit is now just playing the game ultra nightmare difficulty lol. This will most certainly not be encouraging to new players, it will just have them killed more frequently by min-maxers. Definitely going to just leave them frustrated more than anything else.

[vital crypt]

They fixed the stuttering! Was happening every 10-30 seconds for me, now I only had it like twice in an entire 30 min run. which means I can play again!!! Thank you iron mace. ❤️

[fossil geode]

Tbh we wait weeks for these updates when in all reality these are just tweaks in the settings. We get gamed like we're seeing progression in the game and they just reverting tweaks that they did last patch. Next update will be. "WERE adding 0-24 new lobbies to create a fresh new experience for new players!!!"

[limber torrent]

okay. why I bring good gear and I kill people with nothing? what is this.

[narrow carbon]

how do you do big text in trade chat

[limber badge]

There's no explanation for how it works though. Can I duo with a new friend or are we placed against insane sweats?
Can I just make a new character or does it involve time played?
How does it work haha?
Wrong reply my bad

[mild sinew]

lol fr @ Ironmace 77-1 better revert the GS lobby change, youre throwing off casual players by throwing them in with people with min/max gear sets

[sullen urchin]

highroller needs to gs queues, no one with over 200gs wanna play agaisnt 800 gs in the same lobby

[hushed forum]

Waht is the doubel stone door???

[earnest parcel]

Makes me wonder if taking the approach of not being able to socket All Attributes should apply to True Damage as well.

Even considering not allowing both to be on Jewelry should be on the plate.

In general though.. my biggest issue with Ironmace still...

PLEASE ACTUALLY USE THE FUCKING TEST SERVER TO TEST PATCHES AND ALL THESE NEW AND CRAZY IDEAS, IT'S LIKE THE GAME ITSELF IS A TEST SERVER ALL THE TIME

[hexed shell]

I feel you man. I have 1k hours but I still liked no gear lobbies for questing and bossing.. I think they will revert it next week or so. Its just a bad move

[noble bronze]

I mean.
Now the new player runs into full copper light +3 All epic frost pendant death machine

[hexed sedge]

What shoes should i craft for wizard arena?

[sturdy coral]

new players have their own queue

[agile tide]

Even 124s isn't quite enough for a lot of classes to shine. Anywhere before HR, barb and fighter are very strong, and ranger is good too. All casters are pretty handicapped below HR in my opinion. Sorc is probably fine since he doesn't need weapon gearscore

[wild dawn]

these devs fucking suck bro

[regal sundial]

why am I not getting gear back after dying to wyvern in frost caverns?

[worn lily]

they've said why they dont use test server not enough players play it for good accurate feedback

[fringe zealot]

My gear now 🫡

[pine cedar]

dude PLEASE READ THE PATCH NOTES CHRIST ALMIGHTY, THEY REMOVED GEAR RECOVERY WHILE THEY’RE FIXING IT JESUS SO MANY PPL ARE ILLITERATE ITS INSANE

[young laurel]

Issues with druid? Just delete it, would be the best patch ever

[next epoch]

anytime you fall to your death, you dont get your stuff back. i imagine the wyvern is pushing you to your death?

[soft wren]

thoughs classes still dominate they just do it now with biss thats a balancing ishue your talking about

[olive crest]

"We don't want players running headlong into battle" but also make barb like the easiest and best class in the game... Huh

[ornate fractal]

L Patch

[tender matrix]

What's this "critical issue with Druid"?

[cerulean copper]

the other day, trying to do some quests, i died over and over again, probably 20 times on the same evening, while not bringing back any loot. imagine having to get some gear just to do those quest.

[granite pasture]

@glad thunder put a cool down on druid transformations already. Is it really that hard? Sorc has em just fine.

[civic parcel]

its currently hunger games in ruins xD

[outer cradle]

Anyone else able to find the place to import a blacksmith into a steam account? Can’t seem to find it just yet

[mild sinew]

socketing system is perfect as it is, including Rubies being the value they are now @real copper exactly, they already said in one of the podcasts that they dont have time to really play the game because they have lives, so why are we testing this now, when its been this long with no issues of GS lobbies

[sinful gull]

125 is way worse with certain classes dominating. You can also easily put 10k in a set and have huge advantages on random 124er kits. 24 was way better balanced. The problems you describe are down to 24 and 124 having basically the same droprates. the 24 gs lobby as the "noob lobby" shouldnt have troll pelts or gk´s at all so the pros feel like wasting there time in 24, and noobs have a incentive to go up in gear for more profit..