game-discussion

[deft lintel]

Not yet

[pulsar ferry]

Yeah which basically means it’s just a pvp tax because you have to buy all the meds every match

[fleet jacinth]

When did arena go live?

[pulsar ferry]

3 am eastern

[pallid walrus]

you would think the arena is for pvp yea? but guess what. if you get unlucky and agro the shit mobs first you die lmao

[stark summit]

True. Gold sink to curb inflation lol. Economists

[rigid egret]

Hello i have a question are the twitch drop cosmetics account wide or just for one character ?

[spice oracle]

its running like ass for me

[stark summit]

Regular dungeon mobs are killing you in pvp fight?

[pulsar ferry]

The cosmetics are account wide, the tokens are character specific I think

[rigid egret]

thank you🩶

[pulsar ferry]

Np

[pallid walrus]

no the easy ones usually arent a problem but they can be. its the bigger ones like golems and berserkers stuff like that which just basically gives the upper hand the other team

[deft lintel]

Now arenas take 5 times as long to find games for.

Try again.

[desert orchid]

Does scrap armor drops from living armor go down if I take luck religion

[reef gulch]

anyone else have problems linking with twitch?

[pulsar ferry]

Let me look at drop tables on wiki if their up yet

[deft lintel]

What? Luck will reduce the drop chance yes.

15% to 14% with 50 luck

[drowsy hare]

i just killed a grottox and didnt get a special weapon

[sacred vapor]

Why the hell did they add pve to a pvp only game mode?

[sweet crow]

yes, kept giving death stutters after the rollback

[desert orchid]

1st game of arena 2 guys from enemy team died to goblins

[pulsar ferry]

Yeah armor drop rate goes down slightly

[pallid walrus]

im wondering the same thing. i thought arena was gonna be a mode where i could just go fight and practice pvp. yet i still have a 50/50 chance of getting fucked by the mobs and dying

[sacred vapor]

I was so excited for arena so I could practise wizard pvp since I've barely played them but now I'm not even gonna bother with it, the hell?

[pulsar ferry]

As long as you don’t have 500 luck it’s not too much of a dip only <3% less at 500

[robust cape]

How do I change over my account to steam?

[drowsy hare]

WHY ARENT UNIQU EMOBS 100z% DROP RATE FOR WEAPONS LMAO WTF

[exotic gust]

because these devs obviously sniff glue

[pulsar ferry]

I’m pretty sure they increased unique monster spawn rates and made the weapon drop rate less than 100%

[drowsy hare]

@pulsar ferry that just makes them not a reason to get excited seeing them lmao

[pulsar ferry]

I kind of agree, but when the spawn rate was so low I never saw any sooo

[hard rock]

I didn't ask/ wasnt talking to you

[drowsy hare]

ye but i finally found one, and got a sallet

[pallid walrus]

ive never even heard of unique monster

[deft lintel]

Maybe you should read the patch notes

[pulsar ferry]

There’s like 5-8 unique monsters they used to always drop a certain “minor artifact” item, now it’s a chance

[pallid walrus]

i usually do but guess didnt see that

[sacred vapor]

but in exchange they increased normal unique drops rates right?

[pallid walrus]

i quit before season one and just returned last season so theres a lot of new stuff idk about

[shadow meadow]

these ice eyes are killing me been farming the map for an hr

[eager osprey]

Is the game not closing properly for anyone else on Steam? No signs of D&D in processes either, and only exiting Steam itself seems to fix it.

[pallid walrus]

at least you just need 1 now

[pulsar ferry]

They made the unique monsters spawn more I think I dont actually know that just makes the most logical sense (they said they “changed” the spawn rate)

[sacred vapor]

Can you not just press "stop" in steam to properly close the game? if a games running the play button is usually replaced with stop and in my experience it always kills the game regardless of what's happening

[terse sable]

mini bosses in arena is dumb

[eager osprey]

Stop doesn't work. Just gets stuck on Stopping.

[sacred vapor]

probably to make people get dopamine hits more often even if they don't get any loot from it

[pallid walrus]

fr

[worthy valley]

Why are we still allowing people to go naked on barbarian and one shot anyone? Today I got oneshot by a barbarian's hatchet from 130 hp.. it was a green hatchet and the dude was wearing nothing. That's so much fun..

[floral condor]

why do my lobbies only have like 1 other team, its not like the game doesnt have players bruh this is terrible

[pallid walrus]

i just wanna be able to relax from the dungeon and go 1v1 someone in arenas but IM had different ideas

[thin narwhal]

I apologize since it’s probably been asked a million times. How do I get the twitch drops to my steam, I don’t have an iron mace.

[vital flicker]

Demon-Berserk would not agree with you

[lone lagoon]

can you switch religions?

[pallid walrus]

i dont think so

[small pilot]

How we fixing: {"status":401,"message":"invalid csrf token"}

[pulsar ferry]

Exactly, I never even saw a unique monster before this change. Don’t know if I will now haven’t played yet

[floral condor]

why do my lobbies only have like 1 other team, its not like the game doesnt have players bruh this is terrible

[pulsar ferry]

Which gear bracket are you in? And which map?

[floral condor]

200 ish?

[vestal silo]

is que bugged?

[floral condor]

and ruins

[pulsar ferry]

Interesting. I know lots of people don’t like bringing gear in the lower lobbies as much maybe that’s why. If people are bringing over 200 they probably go HR more

[floral condor]

but thats rare, usually i do like 100 if im tryna get loot

[pulsar ferry]

The <125 lobbies are usually full for me on ruin

[eager osprey]

The cosmetics are account wide, while the tokens are on whichever character you log into first.

[floral condor]

i legit get one other team in my game if im lucky, when i used to play ayear ago there would be liek 8 teams

[vapid minnow]

Are warlocks still op as balls, and are a majority of them in arena?

[worthy valley]

Please nerf barbarian. Getting run down by a naked guy and one shot in the head is not fun.

[vapid minnow]

Probably came from a warlock, bait used to be believeable

[jovial zenith]

i think its funny that in the mode thats focused on pvp are so many mobs

[quiet moth]

Bro am I tweaking? Why doesn’t the game let my steam account be linked to twitch?

[vapid minnow]

I left twitch on at home, easy four hours

[vital flicker]

Warlocks are pain in the ass in solos. In trio they are "ok"

[vapid minnow]

Bait used to be believeable.

[worthy valley]

I'm a druid. You're "probably" a re*ard

[jade yoke]

Arena will also kill the main game as well, this might be the fall of the game from god awful decisions

[quiet moth]

Brother it doesn’t let me link it that’s the problem.

[vapid minnow]

Bait

[frozen island]

no it wont, you have to play main game if you want good gear for arena

[worthy valley]

Please nerf barbarian. Getting run down by a naked guy and one shot in the head is not fun.

[smoky tangle]

bard with the luck thing is fun

[vital flicker]

Dude...

[vapid minnow]

Bros too scared to say the actual word because he wears a chastity cage and goes on Reddit

[worthy valley]

Please nerf barbarian. Getting run down by a naked guy and one shot in the head is not fun.

[jade yoke]

no you misunderstand, it's spitting the player base into 8 different ways to queu into a game, with 3 different GS brackets. it's so slit up that there is no standard game anymore

[vapid minnow]

If anyone uses a magic based class? Ignore them instantly. They’ll either have the most shit takes ever, or a crappy arguement.

[worthy valley]

bait

Please nerf barbarian. Getting run down by a naked guy and one shot in the head is not fun.

[vapid minnow]

The chloroplast of insanity goes far beyond in this one

[vital flicker]

Berserk + no chestpiece perk + headshot perk = more then 110 damage on your caster head

[vapid minnow]

Is he going to realize that healers are better off with a team or not?

[frozen island]

why are you letting a barb get in melee range as a caster???

[pallid walrus]

which = learn how to kite lol

[worthy valley]

Sounds fun. Guess I'll switch to barbarian until they actually do something

[vital flicker]

Im just explaining why it happened)

[vapid minnow]

I play rogue

[vital flicker]

Good luck with chasing warlocks

[vapid minnow]

Because I like treasure.

[frozen island]

arena is healthier for the game, all the pvp sweats that rush spawns are playing arena now and dungeon crawlers get the crawler mode they want

[pallid walrus]

facts

[vapid minnow]

Warlocks or any magic class that isn’t a Druid is easy pickings

[pallid walrus]

you say that until they phantomize everytime you get on top of them

[terse sable]

chat do you lose potions and bandages after an arena game if you bring them in ?

[vocal schooner]

Does playing Arena make you lose the gear you brought in when losing/winning?

[vapid minnow]

Or at least for me when I’m alone, if they see me first it’s joever.

[smoky tangle]

arean will be neat and then when you lose you just go back to dungeon crawling for gear

[floral condor]

why do my lobbies only have like 1 other team, its not like the game doesnt have players bruh this is terrible

[vapid minnow]

Can you just go in with base gear?

[pallid walrus]

you can

[smoky tangle]

yes

[worthy valley]

New barbarian player here. Why is IronMace allowing this class to go naked and one shot people in the head? Not complaining anymore, I'll just play barb until they change it.

[small pilot]

any luck resolving {"status":401,"message":"invalid csrf token"}

[vapid minnow]

I take it gear score is a thing in arena?

[twin stream]

Because barb players are cool and deserve it

[smoky tangle]

you just need to know how to fight barbs

[terse sable]

chat do you lose potions and bandages after an arena game if you bring them in ?

[worthy valley]

I agree, I feel pretty cool now that I'm a barbarian

[vapid minnow]

Rogue here, stop complaining and whining about how barbarians are supposed to work.

Soyrager.

[mild kestrel]

how do i do the twich drops

[vapid minnow]

Hello Haitian, to activate twitch drops, just go to account in options and link your twitch.

[mild kestrel]

in dark and darker

[pallid walrus]

i main barb and its normally a 2 shot to the head. but we are one of the slowest classes in the game with no range

[worthy valley]

Your father here, stop complaining and whining about other people complaining and whining. Actualy femboy

[vapid minnow]

Your estrogen intake doesn’t allow you to reproduce, get real, you won’t ever be a father

[worthy valley]

🤓 🤓 🤓

[vapid minnow]

Exactly, hush mode.. 🥱

[worthy valley]

Whatever you say, nerd. Go adjust your glasses somewhere else.

[worthy valley]

That's why you take off your clothes

[steep pawn]

Lightfoot boots + loose pants + riveted gloves

[solemn shore]

Skill issue unfortunately

[steep pawn]

• scream like an ape to go fast

[worthy valley]

I just said I'm a barb player. Read the whole message. Brain issue unfortunately

[wind venture]

Barbs truly feels the worst class in HR.

[solemn shore]

Barb is weak wdym

[mild kestrel]

when i got the the dark and darker thing it will not llet me do the twich it says proceed

[steep pawn]

Good.

[pallid walrus]

-40 move speed on like all weapons. i can get kited by a wizard and warlock with a book in the hand with all that gear on. i do think that if im able to close the gap i should be rewarded with a one or two tap

[worthy valley]

...I see I was right about the brain issue.. Sorry mate, go on. Do your thing.

[solemn shore]

No wonder ur a barb player 💀

[steep pawn]

Uhmmm akshually

-30 felling and squireaxe
-35 double
-45 bardiche (good. deserved nerfs)

Also achilles + inventory full of frenchies

[pallid walrus]

i dont bring an inv of francisca but i do think they should bring back the stack of 2 that would be nice

[steep pawn]

If u want to pvp ill bring at least 9

[wind venture]

@steep pawn

Felling is meme, you die by it means you’re bad.

Achilles, you mean the 1 ability every 30 seconds and if you miss you’re fucked?

Also, you can achilleas someone, by the time you pull out your weapon and go for a swing. It’s already warn off.

[pallid walrus]

i do just fine with 1 or 2

[sinful storm]

uhh so is everyone only doing the religion with luck or what???

[pallid walrus]

felling is op if you land all your hits

[steep pawn]

Ill agree with felling, one miss and barb is fuked + its range is atrocious

[wind venture]

Luck means sliiiightly higher chance for better loot but also ruins items you need for quests

[solemn shore]

Are you able to change religion whenever

[pallid walrus]

the range is just shit and if you miss a swing you are fucked

[ashen hinge]

is season 4 for HR out and ready or are we just waitin?

[wind venture]

@pallid walrus if you land all hits, one miss and it’s over

[steep pawn]

What if you miss 1 coz dude is doing spine breaking movement

[pallid walrus]

yea personally im a double axe kinda guy

[steep pawn]

Poor ones cost like 12 gold iirc xD no reason to not bring many + you can spam them even without achilles to slow people down in chase

[pulsar ferry]

Step 1 put on dark and darker on twitch
step 2 fall asleep
Step 3 ?????
Step 4 link twitch account
Step 5 relaunch game

[pallid walrus]

i usually just try and close the gap with achilles and hope its not a warlock with phantomize

[wind venture]

I always need 7+ throwing axes. It’s the ONLY way to get a wizards warlock, ranger

Though warlock just use their most broken ability phantom and run away with 330 speed

[steep pawn]

Exactly for that you need many frenchies, hope for 1 good hit, if he phantoms on 1 hp just finish throwing frenchmen

Take off pots, camp doors in the dark corner, get a jump on

[subtle heart]

to catch a warlock you just have to leave out a mildly used waifu pillow and they will stop in their tracks to caress it

[wind venture]

Man they need to change phantom. Reduce duration at least

[pallid walrus]

i just feel like the way you have to use them in the inv is ass now. i miss the good old days where i could have 2 stacked on eachother

[wind venture]

You can thank streamers for crying about barbs in season 2

[lyric kraken]

Does anybody have photo of the elven torch in game?

[pallid walrus]

and just bring 2 stacks and im good. now i gotta play tetris with my inv and take like 2 secs to equip the axes if i want heals in my hotbar

[steep pawn]

True. True. Need to refill quickly if you have a moment. I carry 1 full toolbelt ready, which is 3 throws vs 6 if they stacked...

[wind venture]

Barbs deserves something to catch up

[steep pawn]

Does anybody have a photo of cat girl's feet? I just came from work i dont have skin yet

[worthy valley]

They deserve aids, yes

[pallid walrus]

yea i might as well get rid of the blue pot i rarely use it because of potion chugger anyways mb this reply was for tipmixking

[wind venture]

Barbs will only become better after brave hunters and ruby silver doublet comes out

[deft lintel]

@velvet anchor #📢community-announcements message

[pallid walrus]

but i like to have my heals in my hotbar so i hate filling it all with axes

[lyric kraken]

📸 🤨 ayooo

[worthy valley]

As a barbarian enjoyer, I'm running lightfoot boots, loose trousers and a hatchet. Everyone gets hit in the head and dies 🙂 Have fun in the dungeon nerds. Bring some goot loot for me

[pallid walrus]

anyone notice you can stack 3 trap disarming kits now? lmao who tf actually uses those

[deft lintel]

@tribal shell if you tell me why you are asking I’ll answer

[wind venture]

It’s for a quest most likely

[pallid walrus]

hatchet is ass my guy

[tribal shell]

Oh I just read the announcements and I was curious what happened / why people got banned is all. I don't need to know any details on how to do it haha, just curious what it was. / what the effects were

[worthy valley]

Then how did my 130 hp druid get one shot in the head today by a hatchet? Was the guy cheating or is hatchet goated?

[pallid walrus]

cheats. the hatchet does not do that

[buoyant sandal]

I'm really surprised IM made the twitch drops so low in watch time, average view times to get similar drops are 2x what IM is requiring. @zinc sparrow

[inner fiber]

🚩🚩🚩PAY TO WIN SKIN +2 AGI IS BULLSHIT 🚩 🚩🚩🚩

[worthy valley]

I never heard of a cheat that increases damage lol. Do they actually exist?

[hazy meteor]

can you get any loot in arena? and is it good?

[pallid walrus]

i dont know but a one handed weapon is not one tapping 130hp

[deft lintel]

Aight, basically people found a way to get more affinity by doing the same quest on different characters. The trick was to delete the character after doing all the quest, then creating a new character and do quests on that character. Repeat 8 ish times and you had enough affinity to craft grimmsmile rings.

[astral meteor]

Does connecting steam account will get you drop ?

[steep pawn]

always has been

[buoyant sandal]

no

[tribal shell]

Ohh okay. Cool, thanks.

[astral meteor]

you have to have their launcher ?

[pallid walrus]

it was just 2 until i hopped on today. but the only reason i used em was the quest last season

[steep pawn]

farm skull keys so they can rollback

[buoyant sandal]

no, just follow the instructions

[hazy meteor]

wym?

[loud moat]

link twitch button greyed out?

[young shuttle]

why did noone tell me that true shot also increases melee damage?

[astral meteor]

thx

[pallid walrus]

finally got the bardiche from squire lets go baby

[smoky tangle]

i like how arena just shows that warlocks are the best class right now

[pallid walrus]

for some reason it still says polearm for bardiche i thought they were gonnna add it to the axe family as well

[steep pawn]

nah bro i can send you screenshots from previous wipe and i got 3 stacked

[pallid walrus]

hmm interesting

[steep pawn]

i mean i thought its 2 too... i never tried to stack more until i just tried one day and realized i could save space XD

anyone got cat girl skin and can send me screenshot please?

[pure beacon]

Which basicly means you couldnt do it "by accident"

[low quarry]

Can someone explain arena and loot?

[steep pawn]

new quests dropped?

[brisk cave]

general opinion on felidian race?
wich class you think it fits the best?

[steep pawn]

felineussy

[pallid walrus]

yea

[rugged needle]

Does anyone agree that there shouldn’t be mobs in arena?! The whole point of ARENA is pvp, and not on of my group that plays is happy about mobs in a pvp mode

[silver crane]

I think pantera skin is not that fair cause you can only buy it with redstones. It feels not good (I want that 2 agility with bluestones as well)

[steep pawn]

poor Pollack eastern european came back from work, tired, time to play dark and darker... i HOPE they wont patch it for 6 hours like every single friday AGAIN

[gritty iron]

might not be full hp

[brisk cave]

you can get the felidian also from twitch drops,is not pantera but a tabi cat,but stats are the same
2 dex but -1 vigor&strenght

[gritty iron]

i feel like there should be but not many pve is kinda part of the pvp a lot of the time

[silver crane]

you get 2 dex but with panter you get 2 agility

[wraith imp]

Its just stupid how many mobs are in crypts arena

[stark summit]

Huh?

[young shuttle]

The black panther skin gives 2 agility, not dex

[brisk cave]

oh,mb i didnt notice that

[steep pawn]

oh fuke quest for 5 armor scraps x(

[silver crane]

Stats are not the same. That is the problem for me

[brisk cave]

yeah i can see that,a race that is red shard only is a kinda unfair,even if the difference is not much the fact that you have to pay for something like that is a bit iffy

[solemn shore]

They shouldn’t have to balance the classes around arena, that not what the game is about. warlock just happens to be strong in arena

[deft lintel]

Yep

[wraith imp]

Why does Arena swallow items you wearing on a regular base? Intented or just another bug?

[jaunty dirge]

did it by accident, did not craft grimsmiles, not banned

[pure beacon]

You did it by accident 8 times ??

[crisp wagon]

Do we know if there are going to be special cosmetics based on religion of choice?

[steep pawn]

Can you go to arena in squire <24 gs?

[rapid vapor]

Anyone else think the shop is kind of overpriced? $20 for a race and a campfire skin seems kind of nuts for a game you probably already paid for

[tawny iris]

whats the best religion

[native gazelle]

anyone know if each religion has anything unique ? or is everyone going blythar

[jaunty dirge]

didnt get to that level, probably couldnt craft them, but could buy blue shit

[hard rock]

I didn't stutter

[steep pawn]

fireplace and race skin equal full game price

[high ruin]

no way you got affinity, deleted the character, and did it again by accident 8 times bro

[native gazelle]

it was an accident x8

[jaunty dirge]

well I reroll often to get my name, cant stick to one class

[buoyant sandal]

i picked luck religion.... im worried if i ever need to farm some white beetle wings or some shit, can i turn it off???

[lyric kraken]

Does anybody have a photo of the elven torch in game?

[warm basin]

Ayo why is cat paywalled 😄 ill still buy it but wadda hel

[high ruin]

just watch streams, get better cat

[pallid walrus]

there is a free cat from twitch drops

[gritty iron]

cuz money go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[warm basin]

So do i need to link my account somehow?

[wraith imp]

Why developers have to eat?

[gritty iron]

yes sir go to option you'll find it there

[warm basin]

Hey man i bought the 50 dollar version and 20 dollars worth of red shards. dont contribute shame me!

[gritty iron]

yes

[high ruin]

yes, click "options (while on a character) go to account settings or whatever, spam click link twitch

[steep pawn]

Solaris 2nd most popular 💪 Sun bros!

[vagrant frost]

how do I get twitch drops?

[warm basin]

i assume all streamers have the drops?

[high ruin]

No, but they have titles, you have to trust one and click it, it'll give a notification if they actually are dropping though,

[steep pawn]

Also i find it weird that people already maxed blessing levels in like half a day

[pallid walrus]

blythar is by far the best rn

[high ruin]

@warm basin The top ones usually do tho

and no it's not, you have permanent luck you can't turn off, how is that good? Luck determines bad drops too, like resources

[rare elm]

Anyone able to hand in gold coins for the treasurer quest?

[pallid walrus]

? what

[grave geode]

it needs to be looted gold

[high ruin]

I pinged you for the first half, the top streams usually do.

[pallid walrus]

no i mean how tf would luck ever be bad? better chance of higher quality stuff in dungeon

[high ruin]

Yeah sure but you also lose the ability to harvest monster drops that are poor or common

[rare elm]

THANKYOU!

[pallid walrus]

what drops are you talking about because i feel this is not true

[vagrant frost]

how will I get drops if i watch streamers?

[steep pawn]

No way to identify fellow sunbros? Not even a yellow scarf? W patch

[high ruin]

by linking your twitch account in #the-tavern pinned

[pallid walrus]

lemme stack these bloody bandages man

[echo sparrow]

Im here Brother. For the Light

[high ruin]

why would luck also increase your chances for stuff like wolf pelt, when it's clearly poor, or common quality?

[swift tinsel]

Higher luck reduces your chance of getting mob specific drops like wolf pelts, armor shards, etc.. but increase your chances on other loot like weapons and armor

[spare star]

REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK
REMOVE WARLOCK

[pallid walrus]

i mean fair point but i dont believe having high luck will completely get rid of finding wolf pelt

[steep pawn]

How are people able to donate millions of gold to religions? XD Chinese cheaters?

[rapid vapor]

It wont. But it will hurt your chances regardless

[jaunty dirge]

its like 13% instead of 15% per kill

[swift tinsel]

It wont fully remove the chance it just lowers it the more luck you have, so for quests or crafting it might be more difficult to finish

[steep pawn]

We will get our sunshields and yellow colours to identify our allegiance to sun seeking brotherhood... We will...

[pallid walrus]

they should probably change the way luck works and only apply luck to things that are a higher rarity drop and things that have multiple raritys

[echo sparrow]

Praise be Solaris

[swift tinsel]

agreed

[jaunty dirge]

they will probably just make it a different stat next time

[ashen mica]

ANY1 know why I didnt get minor artifact from oozeling?

[cobalt belfry]

so apparently if you use the expressman to take out items, they don't get the 'found by me' status? nice

[jaunty dirge]

they updated something on the rare spawns, not sure if its still 100% droprate, notes wasn't clear on what they did

[ashen mica]

ah okay

[smoky tangle]

arena mobs are the real enemy lmao

[obtuse harness]

So the new cats..... I figured they get +dex for -X didnt think they get +2 agi. Seems like casters have a new race to play.

[worthy forum]

why is everyone going blythar in the new religion?

[shadow meadow]

because 0.7 pdr aint worth it

[worthy forum]

i see, so basically because the other additions are so low they are pointless?

[bold sapphire]

Where do my drops show up in games know they said something about it I just can't find it anymore

[pallid walrus]

how are people at 10k on the worship seals already tho

[jaunty dirge]

Change character

[high ruin]

in your "customize"

[bold sapphire]

its not there my stuff on twitch is claimed and my account is linked

[inner patio]

How does the gearing work in Arena? Do you bring stuff? Lose it?

[bold sapphire]

nvm it wasnt linked after all thank you kind strangers!

[high ruin]

any gear that is "crafted by you" or "found by you" (your character) will stay if you die, otherwise is lost

[rose cloud]

@outer coral they do not do internal testing, they have a test server and didnt even add arena to it. they just put it on the main server immediately.

[hard rock]

Why

[spare star]

playing the game on easy mode

[stark summit]

I wasn’t even talking to you though lmao I’m so confused

[spice quartz]

if you play arenas do you lose your armor if u lose/die

[silent mauve]

Yeah I just drew and lost all my gear that I didn’t find in arenas wonderful didn’t even lose nobody joined the other team

[outer coral]

Yes unless it’s found by you. Pretty cool incentive to go loot instead of just pvp. If only arena wasn’t filled to the absolute brim with mobs no one asked for

[high ruin]

it literally says if it's found by you

[unreal obsidian]

arena is the worst designed addition

[hard rock]

No reason to be stoo talking to me

[stark summit]

Bro u pinged me first Idek what you’re talking about

[viral void]

Instead of banning players for finding a bug in a patch you did not throughly test why not make the test server incentive based with ex. Exclusive skins for amount time played on test or a name plate so others know you are a tester veteran etc. Banning people for your failure to test your game is a wild concept to me. Also can we get a meta shift because i havent had fun in the game since before wipe

[desert orchid]

Do u need to win arena to bring out loot from the chests

[low grove]

yes

[outer coral]

It’s nice we can all finally unanimously agree on something. Mobs in arena make no fkin sense. At least not that many

[hard rock]

LEAVE ME ALONEEEEE

[hot meadow]

what do you get for offering money to the religion?

[sacred vapor]

fax

[stark summit]

U leave me alone goofy

[hard rock]

It'd supposed to incorporate challenge they said

[last ether]

anyone think that the arena is just badly done?

[sacred vapor]

seems like devs are investing all that cash flow from skins straight into crystal grade methamphetamine

[uncut tusk]

arena with pve makes sense, otherwise it would just be all cringe ranged fest

[outer coral]

It makes it so you literally can’t even fight eachother though it’s just 2 teams ranged spamming while the melee ppl try to kill like 15 fkin enemies

[hard rock]

Remember that this is the first interation it will change guys. Iron mace has been cooking lately

[tardy sandal]

They have..?

[last ether]

makes sencse but issue is its a single room only class that can play is barb and no looting is cringe

[outer coral]

That is exactly what it makes it though. The melee ppl have a small army to get through before they can even fight

[hard rock]

Yeah they said they have

[unique ruin]

does anyone know about the crying lady in ruins? i found her and didnt know what to do... looked like a boss room

[sacred vapor]

youre delusional, they didnt even do any balance changes, where is warlock nerf? so we have to suffer through another week or two of playing against 10 warlocks per match since its the only class people seem to wanna play? yippe....

[uncut tusk]

exatcly, you are required to have at least one melee, imagine the L being three warlock or 3 wizard team

[tardy sandal]

Banshee I think, go murder her

[last ether]

wdym u just coner them they have no rooms to run to

[outer coral]

Corner then with 10 skeletons hitting u in the back?

[hard rock]

How am I delusional now your gonna insult me? Warlock is fine stop crying

[shell vapor]

my too! did u solved?

[floral girder]

who also gets the bug where you cannot move the camera further than around 180 degrees?

[tardy sandal]

Nah, you see only their opinion matters and anyone who has differing opinions are clearly delusional

[sacred vapor]

its pretty unanimous that warlock is currently overtuned, they need to nerf the damage and tune the scaling to compensate for reduced damage. one CoP (hitscan abiltiy) doing half your haelth and being able to be reapplied if you have a warlock teammate is too much, the problem of spamming CoP initial damage still exists if you have 2 warlocks in a team which is what almost everyone is running

[sullen belfry]

Are they going to make arena F2P?

[loud moat]

Have to load in on a char then go to options

[uncut tusk]

just remove curse of pain at this point, power of sacrifice is perfectly balanced and should fit in its place

[rapid vapor]

Can we just maybe remove curse lock

[frozen island]

i thought they patched that out this patch?

[winged prawn]

tf are there mobs in arena? lol

[rapid vapor]

Idk why they feel like a class should be able to wear plate, use regular weapons, have infinite stock hit scan spells that heal them, and a get out of jail free ability. Like that seems just a tiny bit front loaded

[sacred vapor]

did they? didnt see it there

[balmy minnow]

is mint loot safe? no bugs and shit. is what im asking

[marble ember]

how do i report a player

guy team killed me cus i got a legendary then we lost

[coral wasp]

is there a luck limit?

[paper steppe]

i lost my gear that i found in normal and brought to arena??? i brought my purple gear cause it said i wouldnt lose it as i found it

[night bear]

Can I gain assistance selecting a class?

[obsidian copper]

Bruh

[pure beacon]

Same character has to find it

[hardy dirge]

FIX REPORTING TEAM KILLERS, ITS ABUSED AND MISUSED

[paper steppe]

bruh

[vestal silo]

cant get into the game failed to connect

[pure beacon]

It even tells you that

[hard rock]

Can't you just outrange them with bows and crossbows

[frozen island]

have another read

[winged prawn]

works better in theory than in practice.

[glacial lance]

dude why are people going for the luck religon?

[rapid vapor]

Not every class has access to a bow or crossbow, not every room or area is suitable to use a bow or crossbow. If they're really pushed for it they can just phantomize up to you and bypass your range

[night bear]

So what I am hearing is that I should join the warlocks

[rapid vapor]

Probably because it's more impactful than a 1% buff

[last ether]

double barbaerian and a cleric

[hard rock]

I don't think anyone asked you

[steel radish]

why wont my twitch link work in DND?

[hard rock]

Removed

[zealous nova]

If you are a new player I would say start with Fighter, versatile, lots of builds and forgiving with second wind and mobs initially

[steel radish]

what do you mean removed? im trying to link my twitch to get the drop rewards and it wont work

[hoary bridge]

I dont think that putting stat on skin that you can only paid with real money is healthy for the game... at least lets people paid skin with blue shard if they got stat on them..

[night bear]

I feel so useless with fighter, I want to play bard but it's overwhelming

[unreal obsidian]

why is this game running so bad

[honest night]

NERF WARLOCK GUT THAT CLASS OVER HALF THE LOBBY IS WARLOCK PLEASE I WANNA HAVE FUN LMAO

[steel radish]

i just killed a warlock. just dodge the curse of pain.

[glacial sparrow]

Learn to play as a warlock, then learn its weakness so you can become the weakness of the warlock. THank you for your time for my ted talk

[hard rock]

I thought you have fun with this game

[strange rock]

For arena, can you go in as solos or duos? It was working with solos last night

[steel radish]

once again I am asking how to get the twitch link to work within Dark and Darker. Any help would be greatly appreciated please!

[honest night]

IHY

[brave holly]

SO WHEN CAN I SEEN ROGUES LIKE I CAN INVIS WIZARDS?

[forest sail]

@slate relic why is new skin pay to win?

[balmy minnow]

arena ice map is trash because of bosses.

[glacial sparrow]

You need to link it with your twitch account, then view A streamer that have the drops enabled, then accept the reward in twitch drops (there should be a link in the chat of said streamer to look for your drops )

[north field]

What’s the yellow status?

[outer coral]

If you’re still dying to rogues you just gotta practice bro they’re in a terrible spot rn you might just be bad

[glacial sparrow]

Or you can go under your name then drops & reward section on twitch

[distant swan]

Hey guys, I haven't played for a while and came back to find that my character was reset to level1 and empty stash, is this normal?

[stoic oracle]

You IDIOTS, there shouldn't be PVE in PVP.

[rapid vapor]

Yes. The season reset which resets everything but cosmetic stuff

[distant swan]

Oh okay thanks!

[sacred vapor]

will troll pelt continue to rise?

[waxen lake]

the "go to twitch" button doesnt open anything, anyone know how to fix this?

[ebon oyster]

can someone assit me linking my game to twitch for rewards?

[indigo ginkgo]

Woke up this morning, got my self a DaD update....

[zealous nova]

Oh damned they banned the abusers well done IM

[indigo ginkgo]

What are you trying to accomplish?

[waxen lake]

link to twitch? i click "proceed" and then "go to twitch" in the account options menu, but nothing opens

[rapid vapor]

Likely. It always starts pretty low and rises pretty quickly once you can craft the bags

[rose cloud]

guys i got some corrupted mana flakes, actual good drop?

[ebon oyster]

where is the link to the twitch

[rose cloud]

sorry, captured. oopsie.

[regal hamlet]

Glad the exploiters got banned. get rekt

[sacred vapor]

can we not craft yet? why did wolf pelts double in price then

[north field]

We can craft with it

[stoic oracle]

You IDIOTS, there shouldn't be PVE in PVP!

[bright forge]

REMOVE THE SUB BOSSES AND HELL MAPS FROM ARENA

[hoary bridge]

Having to pay for skin that have stat to them even if they were old reward is pay to win since now you got to paid them if you didn't pay of got them at the time. PLEASE IRON MACE GET RID OF PAY TO WIN MECHANIC...

[winged prawn]

y the fuck would IM put mobs in arena?

[regal hamlet]

Skin stats don't determining fights lol

[hoary bridge]

They still give you an advantage m8

[regal hamlet]

Not really

[bright forge]

REMOVE THE SUB BOSSES AND HELL MAPS FROM ARENA

[hollow brook]

I'm seeing streamers just focus killing on Arena...wouldn't it be better to loot?

[hoary bridge]

That litterality what are atat for wtf are you talking about lol

[bright forge]

THERE SHOULDNT BE PVE IN PVP

[hoary bridge]

Tell me what are stat for ? Because in my book having more stat make you stronger XD

[hazy ivy]

BigFungus seems big mad about being big bad thinking a +/-1 is why he gets bodied

[regal hamlet]

If 1 str/1 agil, 5 MS/AR, or small stats like that....if those are making or breaking your fights.....it isn't the stat effecting your game, just saying.

Pay to win means that if I pay for this, I'm winning all the time. YOur skin doesn't determine whether you win or not. Your skill does lol. You are not losing because of 1 str different or 1 HP difference lol

[hollow brook]

Do the devs want us to leave blacksmith for steam?

[hoary bridge]

Plus 2 agi for a panther druid make all the difference

[regal hamlet]

Not when I have move speed on my ranger, I outrun them. Again, it isn't the skin....it's your playstyle

[hazy ivy]

-vig makes them even easier to one shot as a lot of classes

[lucid tangle]

Has anyone figured out a way to link your twitch account to dark and darker if youre playing on xbox using geforce now?

[mossy bramble]

is there any reward from winning arena?

[twin zealot]

does the top religion donator have infinite money the pwKOOK guy theres like 5 other accounts on there with the same naming scheme

[opal yarrow]

are quests not completed for every charecter?

[neat vault]

If you block max agility behind a pay wall I would consider that pay to win, no?

[lucid tangle]

No, but affinity is account wide. So if you unlock better squire gear for one character you unlock it for all.

[sullen stirrup]

Is the express man 100% return rate now?

[remote jacinth]

what should I spend gold on? I doubt i should spend loads on gear right?

[regal hamlet]

If you're talking about the free cat skin you get by just watching twitch, then idk how that's a "paywall"

[opal yarrow]

ohhh gatcha that's fine as long as i get squire upgrades

[hoary bridge]

People doing a lot of mental gymnastics to justify stat on skin lol im not gonna argue at this point if the argument is skill issue or these are small stat change. They are still stat change. You wanna max out what you need.. why a wizard would not play cat skin? Why a panther druid would not want to play the cat or the elven skin..

[neat vault]

That's dex not agility

[bright forge]

THERE SHOULDNT BE PVE IN PVP

THERE SHOULDNT BE PVE IN PVP

[clear helm]

What items do you lose? in arena

[hoary bridge]

That a dumb thing to say lol if someone a start playing after the twitch drop have finish ? There still new players to come in the game. That a paywall for them. You are trying really hard to defend a pay to win mechanic that insane XD

[regal hamlet]

1 stat doesn't makea difference, sorry bud but it doesn't. It's more cosmetic and it gives people a very small change they can decide. But if you're losing fights because the fighter you fought had 1 more str than you, then yes it is a skill issue

[clever apex]

Why devs thought that "looted" kind of cateogory for quest items is a good idea? Imo it would be 10x better to let player do whatever they want with their money, free time. Now if you want to do quests you are literally forced to grind for specific item just as Armor Scrap. Wouldnt it be better to just buy them off market even for 1000g and make it also worth keeping in the bag after the quest is over? This is bullshit, I dont even like Ruin map, yet I'm literally forced to play it so i can progess in quest

[bright forge]

THERE SHOULDNT BE PVE IN PVP

[bright forge]

1 STAT 100% MAKES A DIFF BRO WHAT

[zinc notch]

how do i bring in loot for my teammate and it not be sent back to me after the game

[hoary bridge]

At this point why putting stat on them if it change nothing ? You talk like you never win a fight with 2 hp?

[tropic monolith]

do the relgion buffs stack?

[hoary bridge]

Yeha the mental gymnastics ia going pretty hard here

[bright forge]

BRO ACTING LIKE +1 agility doesnt make a a difference..... rookie

[regal hamlet]

You're trying really hard to make people think 1 stat makes a difference when it doesn't lol. If it does to you, then it's actually a skill issue. 100% it is

[hoary bridge]

Now with the cat that even more with the 2 agi

[floral girder]

the arena is full of duo warlocks lol

[clear helm]

when you complain about pve and can't handle a few little goblins, you opionion is much less valadating. This communnity really needs to chill on what Iron Mace puts out. It's called "Experimental" for a reason. Just have fun and stop complaining

[hollow brook]

What is the point of Arena, to get gear or just fight?

[bright forge]

I can handle goblins you peon but its arenas..... made for idk PVP??? so yea i am going to complain that they put mobs into something that is PVP

[hardy niche]

So -> how can I link Twitch with Steam for the drops ? there is only a way for blacksmith-accounts.... 😦

[regal hamlet]

#📢community-announcements explains it fully

[jolly sun]

It’s the most cost effective class high dmg for low investment

[hollow brook]

Be in game on a character in lobby, they options then account

[hoary bridge]

Telling people skill issue is so fking dumb im not gonna argue with you anymore you dont know what you are talking about if you think that stat doesn't change anything. That just a stupid statement

[rare dove]

whats the point of 4 religions if 1 is useful and the others dont really do anything lol

[regal hamlet]

It doesn't lol. You have 1 person in here defending you. It literally doesn't lol

[hollow brook]

But it really is a skill issue 2 points In a stat is almost negligible difference

[floral girder]

it's an exploit, you aren't supposed to go in as the same class

[clear helm]

Why would they just have what all other games do? they've talked about this sort of things in the dev logs. Fake fan

[hushed forum]

How late into a new season does dark and darker take to start the new high roller?

[winged gulch]

This is what i think. This arena is just a stress test for their servers and clients. They used the Twitch drop's player peak to test limits. And i m pretty sure of this because, it doesn't matches what they said, not what they wanted to accomplish and not what they showed us. The real one is coming later this patch.

[clear helm]

"Oh I don't like dark and darker."

Continues to play the thing anyway

[hoary bridge]

Negligible is still a difference. And also where the fk did i said i was losing because of the stat. It doesn't need to affect me to find that dumb.

[haughty hearth]

can you change religion?

[grave geode]

the cat race is free for everyone, takes zero effort to get, and the stat differences only matter in the most extreme edge cases

[hollow brook]

Diddnt mean to imply that you were losing specifically, just saying the difference is so small it doesn't matter

[clear helm]

when selecting your religion it tells you you cannot change untill the next season, so no

[haughty hearth]

ty

[regal hamlet]

It doesn't matter at all lol, idk why he's getting upset by it

[mental lily]

bro the arena is no fun with mobs

[bright forge]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bro what now you are saying stupid stuff and making things up. I love dark and darker and it is an AMAZING game. I simply said why add PVP if there is going to be PVE in it. Stop trying to make things up for the crowd homie

[clever apex]

Remove "Looted" loot state for quest. It's dumb.

[hoary bridge]

Yeah but these extrem case corner exist and in these case you just paid to win also what about people that gonna start to play the game in one month ? There no free cat for then

[regal hamlet]

No way, you shouldn't be able to just buy your quests. go do them like everyone else lol

[slim ether]

wtf

[coarse galleon]

Can anyone tell me if its possible to transfer dark and darker from blacksmith to steam?

[clever apex]

Or use money that was earned the way I like, played how I like so I dont have to do things that bore/annoy me just to "unlock" another quest and enjoy full content of the game

[hardy niche]

Big Thanks to all of the community who helped me !

[hoary bridge]

Saying that the difference is small is an acknowledgement that there is a difference. My point is that even if it make you win 0.5% more it is still a difference. Im playing druid and i 100% guaranteed that cat skin is gonna give me more kill. Agi scale like no tomorrow on druid panther.

[regal hamlet]

different game might be for you then. That makes it way to easy

[bright forge]

Everyone in here doesn't even think and tries to defend the game like its their girlfriend. Use your brain. They added a PVP type of option just to keep mobs in. it is genuinely stupid

[nimble niche]

Bro died to a skeletal infantryman

[grave geode]

you are also losing 1 strength and vigor at the same time tho, I dont think you understand and tiny the stats effects actually are

[regal hamlet]

I guarantee you, I kill you even with that skin in dungeon. That skin isn't going to "get you more kills" lol. Against timmys maybe. Someone skilled, they are gonna kill you anyways

[bright forge]

LOL this is actually hilarious

[clever apex]

It is not about game that suits me. It's about ideology of forcing you to do x, then y, so you can progress, you have no choice.

[quick mica]

What about the PvE map with the Yeti and the Giant at the same time that spawn close to one side

[mental lily]

ye bro like im doing my pvp with a guy and some random fuking artic monkey jumps on me

[regal hamlet]

That's literally called questing LOL. Again, might not be the game for you dude.

[bright forge]

@regal hamlet is secretly a dev for the game

[nimble niche]

FUCK PVE

[mental lily]

facts

[regal hamlet]

Just a gamer who doesn't understand why people complain so much and over such little things. Insane to me

[bright forge]

bro is defending it with his life but cant get over the fact they added a PVP option just to have PVE in it

[hoary bridge]

That the thing i dont give a damn because strenght and vigor are secondary for a panther. Yeah losing strenght plus vigor is sad but to gain 2 agi that % a bonus. 2 point of agi is the difference between rare laced turnshoe and a legendary one.

[regal hamlet]

defending what?

[bright forge]

you think that was smart for them to add PVE to PVP?

[regal hamlet]

Literally never said that LOL scroll up and read

[grave geode]

you are still losing phys power and hp its not as big of a dmg boost as you think it is. It will literally only make a difference in 1 in a 1000 fights

[cursive haven]

Anyone experience and know what the turnaround time for ban repeal tickets are?

[bright forge]

im sorry i meant @clear helm

[regal hamlet]

♥️

[hoary bridge]

Animal form scalling give a lot more than losing physical power from 1 strenght lost

[split ermine]

so if its found by one of my other characters it doesnt count for arena right?

[bright forge]

I love you @regal hamlet please excuse my comments

[regal hamlet]

It's a skill issue, flat out. You're mad because you aren't good enough to understand that. Stop trolling in here with your 1 stat difference nonsense lol

no one agrees with you

[winged gulch]

Suggestion, hide Religion's bonuses. If they are suppose to be insignificant small bonuses why showing them. It only bring us to this situation where 90% of the players are in the best one. Also don't show the bonus in the Player stats ether.

[heavy canyon]

Anyone know what the stats are for the cat race?

[last wyvern]

Why are we adding pay to win skins into the store? The hell is going on.

[mighty aurora]

+5 movespeed, -35 dignity

[balmy minnow]

bosses in arena is a WILD choice.

[bold mesa]

arena suck, 3 v 3 only is a shame AND its basicly just norms

[velvet gull]

+2 agi is way to strong, should be -2 vigor +2 dex AT MOST.

[graceful drift]

how did they miss so bad with arena, get rid of the mobs lmao

[zinc minnow]

People crying over 2agi are just bad players simple.

[late pewter]

What is the best class to solo Troll + Cyclops on Sub 25's?

[zinc minnow]

Warlock or barb

[heavy canyon]

Is it just +2agi, or does it also have -2str

[glacial lance]

is there not sub 25 arenas, im getting put in with 200+ while having squire gear on

[wind patrol]

Guys, I've reached all the drops, but it won't give them to me. I have Steam, Twitch, and Dark and Darker connected. Does anyone know how to deal with this?

[late pewter]

+2 agi -1 str -1 vig

[last wyvern]

+2 agi people will pay hundreds of gold for on pices of gear, if anyone tries to argue taht is not impactful you are just coping.

[fossil acorn]

you have to press "claim" on your inventory on twitch

[last wyvern]

This shit has to just stop, why is this shit being added into the game. People will just buy normal skins. You dont have to add this p2w crap into a game. The entire community supported you through so much bs at the start, bought founder editions, kept playing even when servers / gameplay was bugged to hell. Why spit in our faces by adding this crap into the game?

[grave geode]

you will gain 2.2 dmg on swipe and 2.6 on bite you are losing between 1-3% phy dmg so it would be a net 2ish dmg per hit depending on your build and you are losing 2 hp

[rich burrow]

Anyone wondering why we need PLATE armor scraps for a LETHERSMITH?...

[wind patrol]

i did 😦

[weary stump]

2 agi for druid bro this is broken, when you are giga gear 2 agy is so good and you will not pay 100 but 2000 so srop saying its not impactful when you dont know the end game

[midnight crystal]

Where can I see the religion buffs?

[fossil acorn]

have you restarted the game yet?

[elder basalt]

if youre not happy, find a new game boobear

[versed eagle]

remove pve from PVP ARENA

[restive flame]

Hey is arena 3 man only or can I get a 1v1?

[clever apex]

Bullshit, right?

[wind patrol]

yes, i did

[cloud crow]

Why does arena end in 2 days ?? im confused

[regal hamlet]

I do know end game and am telling you these stats on skins are negligible, they mean nothing to a skilled player

[late pewter]

Holy shit yall are crying over 2 agi? Really? It's literally the elf skin but with an extra point of agi and minus 1 vigor

[weary stump]

so you have to play more skilled... that why its p2w lmao

[regal hamlet]

lol no you don't

[last wyvern]

If everyone thought like you the world would be trash, if you want to laydown and just accept being f'd fine by me. Im going to voice my concern. If you dont like it block me.

[toxic rose]

has the twitch drop thing started yet?

[elder basalt]

go cry somewhere else nobody cares

[formal lynx]

This update "The ‘Map’ key can now be bound to another key." messed up the D-pad for people who use controller. There is not a way to unmap it off of the right dpad in the game. Please remove it.

[late pewter]

people play this game with controllers? wowzers

[novel silo]

do only specific streamers have drops or can I watch any streamer with drops enabled to get them?

[jade delta]

Why is Arena for Legendary editions only???

[rugged flume]

Opinions are like buttholes everyone has one

[fossil acorn]

did you connect your DaD account directly into twitch?

[formal lynx]

You have to do hybrid controller / mouse and keyboard but it works well. It was fine up until the map started popping up when i cycle through bandages/potions

[late pewter]

Because the game is for Legendary editions, on f2p all u get is a "trial" of the game

[wind patrol]

Nop

[jade delta]

trial? how long is trial

[last wyvern]

This is just the starting, when you allow crap like this into the game they will push it to +3 or +4 skins. If you said they would push it to +2 skins before this nobody would believe you either. This is such a bad opinion to even hold. I play so many games that are purely funded by cosmetic MTX you dont need to add this into your games.

[weary stump]

that juste little better but just why add stats to skin the game

[wind patrol]

i use steam 😭

[elder basalt]

why are you still crying here

[rugged flume]

They have a +4 skin already lol😂

[late pewter]

the trial is valid until you buy the legendary status

[tribal shell]

Is there any reason to pick one religion over another?

[velvet gull]

Because if we had a skin that has -10 str and +10 knowledge, every caster would use and everyone would be crying about it (rightfully so). Why would rangers and casters would NOT use the cat skin now when it is all net positives to their classes?

[jade delta]

no idea what did u say

[last wyvern]

Yeah with massive downsides they're not the same.

[wind patrol]

it works

[agile elm]

CANT REPORT IN THIS SHIT ARENA GAMEMODE HAHUFHUSDFAJKG FULL OF CHINA CHEATERS

[tidal crater]

they each give a different tiny passive stat. Luck, phys redux, phys damage, or magic res

[regal hamlet]

It literally doesn't make a difference. You also lose stats, so how is +2 agil so game-breaking? It isn't, stop trolling. They have other skins with +4 vigor and no one is whining. Every single patch people like you come in here and cry cry cry because you can't cope with the fact you aren't good enough to understand 1 stat does not make a difference in whther you straight die or not.

[coarse turret]

when does season 4 start? do HR gives you adventure points rn?

[arctic dock]

It is stupid that you can't get it with blue shards. Also, 2 agi is definitely a decent bonus, but it is by no means crazy. Anyone who wants to max agi is alr using elf, and if you base it on that you are making a trade off of 1 agi for 1 vig. 1 agi is barely 1 move speed, and that's not game changing

[tribal shell]

Thanks!
Looks like most people are doing the luck one?

[last wyvern]

Yeah because those skins that have +4 stats have a massive downside of literally throwing away a piece of gear. You lose the equiv stats if you gear properly. I have no idea why you are defending this with horrible examples.

[grave geode]

these people are whining like its the end of the world

[balmy minnow]

@sdf bosses removed from arena when?

[regal hamlet]

My examples make sense, your examples sound like a whiny timmy, who can't figure out how to win a fight. blame the 1 str difference tho

[formal sparrow]

Vampire next!!!! 2+ magical healing 😭

[tidal crater]

How dare the devs add content to their game?!?! character customization??!??! waaahhhhhh!!

[weary stump]

bro if you play an 500h there is some moment that will help and save you so top sayying there is no difference

[fossil acorn]

nice!!

[pallid shoal]

Wait does cat skin not have a negative stat? If so, awesome. I will always play cat, if just to trigger people who hate it

[grave geode]

the only reasonable complaint is the price increase for the male cat

[covert mist]

luck is far and away the best

[last wyvern]

Lol, there it is man, thats what i was waiting for. At least thanks for letting me know not to waste time with your dogwater opinions anymore.

[clever apex]

Remove "Looted" loot state for quest. It's dumb.

[tribal shell]

Howcome?

[rugged flume]

I have 500 hours and it’s not that huge

[regal hamlet]

Name a fight you had where you thought "Oh dang if I had just 1 more agil, I would've won" "Oh man, if my enemy didn't have that extra str, I woulda actually hit my shot LOL. It's crazy

[pallid shoal]

No it's very important so people don't just cheese quests with teammates

[covert mist]

the other stat values given are fairly insignificant but 65 luck is pretty big

[tribal shell]

Okay, thanks!

[tidal crater]

Not necessarily if you're looking to farm certain low quality quest items. Luck may reduce your chances to get like, white wolf pelts for example.

[regal hamlet]

coping with an extra stat because you can't land your shots lol

[desert orchid]

luck religion decreases quest item rate which is rly sad, also drops troll pelt rate?

[tall matrix]

seems like they changed spectral knight phase attack

[near oyster]

What's the stat boost and neg on Cat?

[bright forge]

bro is complaining about not being good but doesnt want to put hours in

[tribal shell]

If I convert to that, do I get the luck immediately or do I have to do something about it? Do I have to give offerings?

[covert mist]

I got the luck instantly

[loud creek]

Every other god, practically, is worse than Blythe

free 65 luck is actually insane compared to the other trash benefits

its no wonder why Blythe immediately snowballed the lead because EVERYONE that has above decent IQ is with blythe

[tribal shell]

Perfect, thanks for the information gentlemen.

[pastel stirrup]

Luck is wonderfull for stat bonus because it useful for every class compare to knowledge and will

[sacred vapor]

luck ruins ur chances of items like troll pelt etc while phys power helps u clear bosses faster and pvp, but yea ig luck solos for unique farming

[velvet gull]

Literally yesterday when a caster Warlock using Elf skin ran loops around me with max move speed gear. This game uses thresholds, the jump from 50 to 70% pdr is insane, from 300 speed to 305, from 10 to 30% phys power. Small differences add up, stop thinking it does not, because in the long run it does.

[pastel stirrup]

It the contrary it boost your chance to get it

[narrow sapphire]

Why do developers level classes so poorly? Is this always the case or is it corrected? The wizard casts one spell after another. While the barbarian is super slow if you hit him he becomes invisible...

[fathom geyser]

Does anyone know here how long does the ranger "chase" ability last?

[hoary bridge]

@regal hamlet A this point i dont know what to aay to you. I never talked about my gameplay you just assumed that in bad because im stating something that i found bad for the game. Im entitle to have my opinion and i dont think that a wrong one. Im ok with having a debate but if you start by saying skill issue im for sure not gonna take you seriously wtf... also my point is even small even if its change practically nothing that still buff in stats and there is no game in the world were stacking stat that you need more is bad. There certain class that need more point in certain stats than other. Ex: if they put a skin -1 knowledge for +1 vigor or strenght or pretty much close to anything why would a barbarian not play that skin ? There a difference 100% even if the difference is negligible. Having less in one stat do not make the + stats less strong since there stat you just dont need on certain class.. Also it would have been 100% ok if they didnt put a pay wall if you had the option to pay all the skin with blue shard i would not see any problem at all. If you cannot understand that i cannot help you m8 you are a lost cause. Now you can stop talking to me like i ask you sooner

[regal hamlet]

So he had max move speed gear? You don't think the GEAR with a lot of stats was the reason....not because the 1 stat they got from a skin? A skin that YOU CAN ALSO HAVE. LOL

[balmy minnow]

mini wheel is actual torture. whoever came up with that is not a real person

[rich needle]

i need to change my religion wtf is this

[hollow knoll]

Can you do anything with the banshee currently?

[clever rain]

where is the report system?

[last wyvern]

There really is no point in engaging with someone that is willing to fall on the sword of a multi-million dollar company and cover for them like a white knight. This company literally fund raised money to survive legal cases, got supported by thousands of people with help, and they start adding p2w crap into the game.

[velvet gull]

Oh yes, because every class starts with perfect 10 stats in everything, my bad, I forgot about it! OH WAIT, IT DOESNT!

[hoary bridge]

You are right on that.

[pastel stirrup]

If 80 % of the player base go for 1 religion it will benific for all of us to invest the 100 gold fee

[pallid shoal]

You literally said max move speed gear. The skin was not the issue... I bet you didn't have 1 less than max agility, so you would have been smoked by any race in max MS gear.

[regal hamlet]

Oh I forgot every class has bonuses and reasons to play them. 1 stat is not changing the game. 1 stat, literally 1 stat is not breaking anything. Ya'll coping and now using gear as a way to explain the 1 stat difference in skins? lol

[hearty geode]

Do you lose gear in arena if you get clapped?

[stone falcon]

So does luck decrease the chance to get a mob item?

[covert mist]

base stats from skins is broken for druid, weapon damage on skins is broken for everyone else

[rapid arrow]

why is my connect to twitch grayed out?

[hollow brook]

Be on a character in lobby, then go to options, account

[marble stream]

Why are frost ore itens epic now? literaly nobody wanted this

[jagged yarrow]

That's what I saw was absolutely obvious, what were they THINKING?

[regal hamlet]

I have yet to notice a game play difference when I fight people, no matter what skin they have on. Skill defeats them every single time. If you are getting dominated in game because of a skin. They are just a lot better than you. They aren't winning because of the 1 stat LOL. Again, some of ya'll reallllllllly coping....Not saying you as in The Guy, just people in here in general

[jagged yarrow]

Bro, you have to go Blythe in order to farm quest items, where was this God when I needed yeti teeth?

[abstract swan]

YO DO NOT PLAY ARENA AFTER YOU BOUGHT LOOT YOU WILL LOSE IT I JUST BOUGHT CLOTHES AND CHANGED OUT MY GEAR AND IT GOT RESET TO THE GEAR I HAD ON BEFORE AND IT TOOK MY COINS I JUST GOT SCAMMED IN A VIDEO GAME FUN

[rapid arrow]

the "proceed" button ius grayed out for me (i have legendary status)

[hollow brook]

Try restarting you lr game, that happend to me too and restarting fixed it

[rose cloud]

@abstract swan you lose bought gear, you keep looted and crafted gear. it warns you when you try to queue up. skill issue.

[arctic dock]

Extra luck stats makes quest items harder to get

[covert mist]

there are def times where an opponent wins just because of their skin. Have you never seen an enemy win on 1% hp?

[jagged yarrow]

*certain quest items, specifically those of a rarity of common or poor

[tranquil hare]

what exactly IS THE POINT OF TAKING ME OUT OF QUE just to tell me I was at a disadvantage??? The popup message is SO pointless. Just keep me in the QUE!!!!!!!!!

[rapid arrow]

Guess I'll try a PC restart since I've restarted the game 3 times now

[weary stump]

with the skin i say

[hollow brook]

Oof, guess you got to keep trying, just make sure you are on a char that's in lobby

[rugged flume]

You didn’t get scammed you just didn’t read

[rapid arrow]

When you say in lobby like they are sitting at the table before readying up?

[regal hamlet]

If you're going to argue the 1 out of a 100 times thing, then please come again with something else lol. Rare moments can't be used in a bias or math determining these situations. More times than not, 1 stat makes 0 difference.

[arctic dock]

Which is most quest items, but even things like certain boss drops have a lower chance with higher luck

[sullen grail]

Why does Luck ruin Troll Pelt drop chance? This is ridiculous. With 65 Luck from religion you get a 5-10% decrease in drop rates for Troll Pelt. There is no need of it being luck rating 3 when they can easily just move it luck rating 4 and not have it completely demolished for no reason.

We stuck with 5-10% decrease in drop rate for pelt now. I want a re-do 🤣

[velvet gull]

You know what? There is no point, you will fight tooth and nail to justify a pay to win skin, which by definition is "the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money". Maybe it isn't a big advantage, but an advantage nonetheless, which ends in a slippery slope. I hope the devs don't go that far, and that people like you won't be heard by IM.

[abstract swan]

THATS REALLY DUMB WHY WOULD THAT BE A THING WHERE DOES YOUR LOOT GO IT JUST DISAPERS DOES IT EVEN GO TO THE OTHER PLAYERS WHAT KIND OF CRAP IS THAT

[hollow brook]

Yes

[weary stump]

that it ! you cant say it this full random like you survie because you dodge one hit because you do more damage in pantherer form ect and if you play a lot of hours with that skin that will happen

[rapid arrow]

Where is the option button there? I only see it on the character select screen

[jagged yarrow]

iirc they're most beginning quest items, and the bonus gets reset once a week so you can just farm them on the reset. Still the best bonus.

[hollow brook]

Hit esc

[regal hamlet]

and I hope you get better at the game so you can see one day it make 0 sense lol

[velvet gull]

"get gud, lol", great argument.

[rapid arrow]

Wow I am an idiot. Thank you

[hollow brook]

Welcome

[covert mist]

if you are gonna run apologetics for p2w practices, get stuffed mr cool shades cali boy

[weary stump]

you didnt undersant me, if you play a lot this difference will be here

[arctic dock]

True it definitely is still the best bonus

[covert mist]

go enjoy the hustle and bustle of your big city

[vocal coral]

NERF WARLOCKS ASAP, most broken class ever

[regal hamlet]

Yup, get good. Explain how I never see a difference but you do? You are trying to find an excuse because you die to a certain skin, rather than because you had bad positioning, missed a swing, didn't dodge correctly. It was the darn cat skin that killed me, not me though. Typical gamer who can't fathom they are the issue, not the game

[grave geode]

you are the kind of person that will throw a fit when you notice you only got 99 toothpicks in a 100 toothpick box

[jagged yarrow]

All the other ones need like, secondary buffs to go alongside the current ones- they kind of screwed themselves by giving phys damage/resistance out as the God bonus because they can't pump it up like they can luck or it will unbalance everything.

[remote jacinth]

does lantern shield attack when you block?

[silver dagger]

Is there any benefit to the ranking in religion offerings? You only care about total offerings right? No point trying to increase you individual rank?

[arctic dock]

Fr, they need to either add secondary stats or just rework it with some bigger/more interesting bonuses

[grave geode]

I will agree rhat they shouldn’t have increased the price and that they shpupdve made it available for blue shards, but you guys are acting silly over this

[pastel stirrup]

Just a question what is the bonus stat for ruby gear?

[last wyvern]

This is such a horrible way to view anything in life.

If there is something that gives someone even a 1% or 2% advantage it's p2w. You aren't going to perceive the difference but also it's pure bs what you're saying because there is no way you've played enough already to have encountered this skin enough times in game to even draw a conclusion, you're just sitting here making stuff up to justify your argument. People high end will pay 1000s of gold to extra stats on gear, using your logic it doesn't matter if you miss 2 agi on a gear piece.

Small personal sample sizes mean NOTHING. This is how toddlers reason.

[grave geode]

phys dmg reduction

[pastel stirrup]

Thank

[proper meteor]

message me for honeybliss pear

[regal hamlet]

You are the small sample size, have you not been paying attention? lol. You have maybe 2-3 people here defending you, when everyone else doesn't care or see it doesn't matter.

[obtuse harness]

Is i me or does the teaming seem a bit much? Like fine organic gameplay whatever but i just got incircled by a druid and warlock that never talked over the mic. and it seems to be more often since wipe. Its bad enough having to fight 2-3 ppl at cyclopes holding hands but when a warlock chasing you and a druid cuts you off with all that move its a bit much

[weak stratus]

Literally just make the two cat versions equal and nobody would complain. Make the twitch one 6 red/blue shards. Problem solved. It's problematic when we get different paid only statlines, this always leads to a slippery slope. That 2 agi isn't gamebreaking by any means, but the idea of exclusively selling stats for real money is something we need to shut down BEFORE it becomes a huge issue.

[weary stump]

that really not, the principe of p2w is to have a adventage because you pay something and other have not, this is not normal that you have to play better because just somoane pay

[rugged flume]

You get a 2 percent bonus but you lose a 2 percent bonus on other stats how is that unbalanced? How is that pay to win there’s a cost it’s not just a raw straight stat increase

[last wyvern]

I dont care who is defending me, that's the difference between me and you. I'm not here pandering for some imaginary crowd because to be frank 90% of people in here dont care what we're saying. Also, why would you care what people on the internet think of you.

[jagged yarrow]

Question is, what can they add to make it worthwhile while not making it broken?

I think adding some kind of minor gold gain bonus to one of the Gods would be an excellent buff as long as it wasn't extreme, like getting bonus gold just for extracting (based on the level you extract from just like AP)

[lone storm]

is this game good yet?

[last wyvern]

Those stats that you are losing do not make up for the stats that you are gaining, if you give a class that wants strength +2 strength and remove 1 agi, 1 knowledge, it doesn't mean anything. You are just giving them +2 strength.

[nova tendon]

idk qitch relgion to pick i main barb

[obtuse harness]

Pros and cons to skins and most skins u get the chance to use without paying. Watch twitch stream get a cat skin. Its not like the skins are strictly locked behind a paywall

[lone storm]

hey so im bad at the game, what do i do

[arctic dock]

That's fair if you're all playing with the same intentions, but (not saying that you're doing this) if you play super aggressive and thirst for kills, then oftentimes ppl who aren't super keen to fight will team up bc they don't wanna deal with it

Of course if they are just teaming and going around murdering ppl that's dumb af

[weak stratus]

+2agi -1str -1vig today.
-5 knowledge +5 str another day.

Stop the p2w practices.

[jagged yarrow]

5/10/15 per extract based on which floor you extract from, what do you think?

[velvet gull]

It depends, what are you struggling with, and which class you (mainly) play?

[glad pasture]

Do we know if IronMace will do +2 agi skin later and soon with blue shards or its now a pay to win game ??

[rugged flume]

Stats are stats, you’re looking at it as if one stats much better than another. Statistics don’t have feelings. Stats don’t know which of the two is better and what’s better is speculative.

[sullen grail]

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[astral charm]

🛑🇵2️⃣🇼

[tranquil hare]

obviously the +1 stat skin is testing the waters

[lone storm]

fighter, surviving, pvp, pve

[regal hamlet]

I don't care at all what people think of me, that's why I keep typing. That's why I don't budge on my opinion lol. keep going on about your life pretending the stats make a huge difference, when they don't. You aren't going to improve thinking that way. Plenty of people can win fights that aren't in their favor. Blaming the game for a stat isn't helping. They aren't taking it away. Either stop crying about it or go play another game lol

[lone storm]

picked the game back up today after abandonning it like a child with down syndrome

[jagged yarrow]

Oh, maybe one of them increases your AP bonuses for killing players?

[sullen grail]

Your mentality is the reason why bad games exist. 🙂

[nova tendon]

i think the game is really good, hard learning curve before it gets really fun kinda

[last wyvern]

"Stats are stats" what ?

Are you serious. Do you understand how this game even works LMAO? Why are you talking about statistics. The 1% and 2% example was just using buddies example of 1/100.

The attributes in this game I think have way more impactful to that, these aren't percentages these are flat attrributes. If you have an old kit that used to reach 40 agility you are gaining 5% increased agility putting this skin on. Warlock has an entire perk that is 10% will gained. You are gaining half of a class perk using this skin.

[obtuse harness]

yea the fighting 3 ppl holding hands at cylops commuting over voip its dumb to me but i dont really mind that. What i do mind is getting chased by a cleric fighter and no comms happening but they are pushing like a team and the cleric pumping heals. or when im kiting a lock and i see panther take off one way to get cutt off by a panther 30s later rat hoping through doors to intercept me

[lone storm]

you need 10k hours to start getting good at the game

[summer briar]

Do you guys think arena should stay with 0 rewad? Causeeeeee I feeeeeeel like there should be something

[jagged yarrow]

5 million hours or you're subhuman

[velvet gull]

Focus on PDR, use a shield, for pve, think like DS, attack once than block, use sprint + second wind.

[lone storm]

wtf is pdr

[sacred vapor]

just bought 3 wolf pelt 96 each waht the hell lol

[sullen grail]

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[nova tendon]

no lol

[jagged yarrow]

There's wolves in both ice caves and the first level of Crypts. Pelts are now less valuable.

[lone storm]

seems like it, massive, gigantic, titanic learning curve

[velvet gull]

Physical damage reduction, it reduces all physical damage by a percentage, a high percentage means each hit gets reduced by that stat

[sacred vapor]

goign rate is 300 each rn

[brisk plank]

recap arena session : spend 1k on heal, gain 0 gold
MASTERCLASS

[vapid arch]

don't use luck when trying to get something specifically lower rarity

[weary stump]

bro the cat is 2 dex but in druid this not the same as agility stop talking if you dont know

[lone storm]

ok so what do i do then

[jagged yarrow]

Early wipe nonsense, it'll iron out. I bought 30 pelts when people were selling them for 50-100 each lol

[sullen grail]

If you are committed to Blythar, which you cannot remove, you are permanently 5-10% lower chance of recieving Trolls Pelt

[vapid arch]

sucks to suck

[grave geode]

the 2 agi gets less effective the more geared you are, and base druid sucks balls so it doesnt even matter

[slim ether]

how do we fix error code 21

[cursive haven]

Any insight on ticket response time? Anyone know how long support usually takes to respond?

[sullen grail]

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[last wyvern]

Yeah, but that is not the point. The point is it's p2w not how p2w is it. 40 or less flat agility, and this thing is equaling half of a class perk.

[obtuse harness]

Is the twitch skin 2dex cause my felin is +2 agi -1 str -1vig

[potent raptor]

best religion?

[toxic rose]

has the twitch drop thing started counting yet if i start watching now?

[remote jacinth]

as long as you linked, yes

[sullen grail]

Twitch Drops is 2 dex, P2W skin is 2 Agi. Same debuffs

[quick mica]

The reward is PvP

[sacred vapor]

yea check ur "drops" section on twitch and it shows ur progress

[remote jacinth]

its still in its like beta phases homie don't expect it to give you 100000 gold

[velvet gull]

Get really heavy armor, then go for there. If you dont want to die too much on pvp, VOIPing generally works, just them you are new and they probably wont attack. Also matchmaking is made of 0-24,25-124 and 125+ gear score. Check your gear score so it is always between 0 and 24

[lone storm]

uhhh

[sullen grail]

Every single race except for the Exclusive Rewards for Seasonal HR should be able to be purchased with Red or Blue Crystal Shards, never only Red.
It doesn't matter how P2W something is, it matters that it's P2W. Its a stat change that can only be obtained through a pay wall.

[last wyvern]

There's a reason they also released this skin at a higher price point compared to others, they KNOW it's p2w.

[lone storm]

i cant find the really heavy armor in the base gear menu @velvet gull

[summer briar]

I just expect it to not be actively negative gold cause you spend your pots

[regal hamlet]

NEW PLAYERS: Please stop buying gold coin purses on the marketplace for 20-30g.....you can get them at the treasurer for 5g. Idk how people get to level 20, gain access to the marketplace and still don't know the treasurer sells bags for 5g. Don't waste your gold lol

[sullen grail]

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[pastel stirrup]

I just insane that the income of legandary account is almost 5 time higher than F2P

[zenith spire]

are you the same religion on all your classes?

[regal hamlet]

new players are just getting scammed lol

[sinful storm]

could anyone help me? I keep getting an error when I try to link my twitch and dnd accounts

[grave geode]

wait a minute the twitch drop is 2 dex?

[arctic dock]

Wdym by bs gear restrictions on arena

[sullen grail]

In order to queue into highroller you need to equip 225 gear score worth of gear. So there is a slight gold wall for HR, but 100% the real gold farming is done in HR, cant be done norms

[zenith spire]

?

[velvet gull]

and yes, it will take time to learn, not a 1000 hours, but maybe an afternoon. My first day playing this game, i died to mobs for a whole afternoon lol. Its normal. On squire, you wont start with heavy gear until you do ARMOURER's first quest (6 cobalt ore). Either buy it from him in the trade screen or find it on the dungeon. You can get 6 cobalt ore if you have a pick axe, and go to goblin caves (goblin mines module)

[pastel stirrup]

The only good class for money for F2P is warlock and bard to get a lot of chest and to cheese boss

[sacred vapor]

why did froststone drop from like 200 to 100?

[lone storm]

i played for multiple weeks and couldnt do anything still

[sullen grail]

You can only bring in gear that is "Found By, or Crafted By: YOU", it doesnt matter if its looted gear or not, it has to be found by the character you are connecting to arena with, otherwise you lose the gear upon defeat, and its not like risking losing it to players, nobody gets it. Just despawns

[lone storm]

then once i got to lvl 20, i made a new character

[sullen grail]

I think if they want to avoid people marketplacing for Arena gear, just make it all base kit fights, or below 125 Gear Score with Marketplace items

[opal yarrow]

what module do the knights spawn and att what time

[pastel stirrup]

You forget that you need legendary account to go in high roller so the legendary account who come into normal have a brease they to get pvp gear compare to F2P

[arctic dock]

Ah I see, I think it's a pretty cool idea, and it means you have to slowly level up the gear you bring into arena. I do understand that it could be annoying but I think it's an interesting way to do progression for arena

[oblique badger]

did anyon else's mic stop working in game after new patch?

[summer solar]

does arena have brackets like normal que's?

[sullen grail]

There is no progression of arena with this method. You can go in regular raids and get the gear then run them in arena. It encourages farming outside of arena to have better advantage inside arena

[solid ledge]

Is there anyone I can contact about one of my character getting deleted?

[lone storm]

what area is best for noobs

[fair matrix]

Running a druid and about to pick a religion. The luck boost seems insane, but wanted to hear a general opinion on the choices.

[solid ledge]

I didn't delete one of my characters and they are gone from my character list

[velvet gull]

Do in what sense? you died everytime, or do not have gold or you die a lot (pvp or pve)?

[pastel stirrup]

Goblin cave and ruins

[lone storm]

what

[arctic dock]

But wouldn't you be doing that either way? It just means you can't buy all of your gear, which I think was to prevent people from buying stuff with real money

[velvet gull]

True, ice caves is rough.

[weary stump]

YES i would not complain if that was like that

[pastel stirrup]

It so good for ranger and wizard

[weak stratus]

Yes, that's why people are complaining. You can only get +2agi - 1str - 1vig if you pay real money.

[weary stump]

but not for druid (this is my new main)

[velvet gull]

if you got to lv 20, then you must be doing alright to be fair, maybe just try a map that you feel confortable with, then sticking to a route and there's that

[plucky elbow]

lol REMOVE THE MONSTERS FROM ARENA

[pastel stirrup]

Yeah a werewolf is better

[maiden kettle]

is the cat skin dogpoop on barb, Is it just only good for rogue?

[obtuse harness]

Untrue. Golem farming was (dont know about now) huge i have 2 tabs of cobalt and 2/3 of ruby in tab on ore bank from just golem farming (only like 10g ore) and i run down skele champs for a chance at gold keys. I have sold 2 gold keys in last 3 days both about 5.2k gold. I actually havent even touched HR cause im still playing with classes to see which one i want to main (I normally play locks but i dont like the fact there is a epidemic of them so im trying a diff class). It just comes down to knowing who is worth who is not and how to manage loot and leaning how to properly loot. Alot of players i kill inven makes no senseand they carrying so much trash thats not worth picking up

[lone storm]

no not really, dying most of the time, escaping every 5th match. didnt feel comfortable with any map

[grave geode]

okay I get it now, that pretty bad

[clear stirrup]

Im having a hard time with the religion system, can you still queue with people of a different religion? just want to make sure before i pick one

[pastel stirrup]

Yes Choose the sun

[sullen grail]

Cobalt ore drop from a golem is only like 100g. What are you even saying? You get purps and legendaries that can be worth like 900+ each in high roller, and artifacts that can be worth 100k+ easily from highroller. You dont get that kind of gold in normals. F2P literally cant farm artifacts

[grave geode]

are you struggling with the monsters?

[lone storm]

and players and navigation and escaping

[remote jacinth]

just spend $10 on a skin, thats nothing

[sullen grail]

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[velvet gull]

To mobs or players? If to players, then you should be avoiding the center of the map, if mobs then you either attack then block, or attack and move backwards. Extracts are the blue markers when you open the map (M key). If a quest asks you to go to a specific module, go to dark and darker map on google, and it shows all of them with the names on it.

[lone storm]

both

[pastel stirrup]

In same vibe : (Nerf the warlock curse of pain to deal 20 damaged for each 3 sec for 15 sec)

[rich needle]

whats the point of playing arena?

[echo sparrow]

to pvp

[grave geode]

if you go to the dark and darker wiki, they have an interactive map that shows literally everything on the map like extracts, shrines, what mobs there are, for players just try to show/tell them tou are friendly or you just need to practice pvp more. For the mobs, you can check youtube guides on how to dodge them. I would recommend Ryan6daysaweek

[obtuse harness]

I have made close to 70k non highroller since wipe. I have enough to buy most gear to get into HR if i really want. Gold isnt that hard to get if you know how to properly loot. Yes is HR more lucrative. OFC that wasnt what i was saying i was saying gold isnt hard to get in norms and its not hard to farm as long as you manage your pickups and learn what worth nabbing and whats not worth. When you inv is full of blues not worth vendoring or marketing and ppl wasting bag space on 4 slot pc collector items ofc they are not making gold.

[rich needle]

you don't lose nothing?

[echo sparrow]

you lose gear thats not yours

[pastel stirrup]

Did you sell any item on the market or trade ?

[sullen grail]

You're forgetting the entire point of it was about how Legendary has huge gold gain advantage to F2P. You cant market anything. 🤣

And in terms of raw sellables/vendorables, HR is strictly better

[pastel stirrup]

True the average gear we have it blue with one purple

[forest pilot]

What the heck Ironmace, there's better ways of monetization than giving a P2W skin.

[sullen grail]

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[rich needle]

troll pelt d/r?

[pastel stirrup]

Make F2P have 150 luck at start to compete with legendary account

[arctic dock]

Drop rate

[vapid arch]

lol

[atomic shell]

does anyone know if you can change your religion??

[pastel stirrup]

Yeah I am kidding

[remote jacinth]

not until next season

[spice robin]

brokie alert

[sullen grail]

Drop Rate on Troll Pelt. Its classified as Luck Grade 3, which on it's drop table for Cave Troll/Cyclops, Luck Grade 3 dips down in Drop Rate the higher your luck stat is. So if you picked Blythar Religion, you are permanently 5-10% lower drop rate for Troll Pelts then anyone that is not Blythar. You can't even opt out of the Stat Buff from Religion.

[pastel stirrup]

You didn't read "Yeah I am kidding

[pearl jungle]

Can someone tell me what the feline skin gives

[grave geode]

to fight peope

[tall thunder]

You all are full of BS crying about this skin when most of you guys have said tons of times the +2 won't make a difference with races now your all crying

[spice robin]

didnt read. just seen a brokie

[sullen grail]

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[velvet gull]

To be fair, I think the high luck just makes it so cracked and junk items will not appear, even the wiki says that it will not just straight up increase the chance of a legendary, if anything it increases greens, but thats all.

[hidden oracle]

can anyone send me a link that describes how gear works in arena? i just dont get why i lost a bunch of gear in arena.

[arctic dock]

The drop is +2 dex, -1 str, -1 vig. The one that costs money is +2 agi, -1 str, -1 vig

[pearl jungle]

tyty

[pastel stirrup]

For a F2P it huge

[spice robin]

f2p get 65 luck

[pastel stirrup]

Anyway we can't use unique so the keys are useless

[tall thunder]

So is the strength +1 on other races also p2w or is that not part of your double standards

[arctic dock]

Basically gear that you find or make yourself don't get dropped, anything you get off ppl or from market will drop

[obtuse harness]

Oh F2P you know most F2P games are paywalled hella bad. Like ppl crying over a +2 agi skin and they playing free to play then i am unconcerned. When its F2P i just assume F2P players are playing a "Demo" of the game. Invest some money into what you like. If you dont want to invest thats fine but then I dont think its a important. If you cant that sucks but they need to get paid for a service so if they want to feed their fams and pay rent people need a reason to buy the game.

[grave geode]

You will pnly keep your gear if its gear that you extracted on that character and is minted. Should say “Found by your character name”

[sullen grail]

Every single race except for the Exclusive Rewards for Seasonal HR should be able to be purchased with Red or Blue Crystal Shards, never only Red.
It doesn't matter how P2W something is, it matters that it's P2W. Its a stat change that can only be obtained through a pay wall.

[velvet gull]

Yeah, it matters way more for f2p, you are right

[tall thunder]

Crying for crying sake imo

[pastel stirrup]

Are you comparing p2w mobile with pc what a joke

[lone storm]

ok so i died at a portal, im done with this game

[spice robin]

yeh their hiding skins behind red only is cringe af

[grave geode]

The +2 agi skin is only available through red shards which is a genuine problem

[lone storm]

i quit, fuck this bullshit, i see why i fucking left this game

[tall thunder]

It's not p2w like you all say about all the other races it doesn't make a difference the bonus stats so why the hell do they now?

[sullen grail]

If you would learn to read, you would realize that opposing my message, literally means that you wish these races that cost money to only cost real money, and not be able to be purchased with Blue Shards. Read before you type, your argument makes no sense and not 1 human alive will agree with it unless Robert Downy Syndrome is their father

[grave geode]

all the other skins have variants availble for blue shards excpet ice skelly and cat

[velvet gull]

how?

[lone storm]

it said to press f when the portal was open

[tall thunder]

You are all crying for nothing like I said just because you have to pay for it.....

[grave geode]

there are 3 portals, you just needed to walk through

[obtuse harness]

No im comparing most F2P games. LoL certain skins banned in tourneys because how the spells look gives unfair adv. Apex there are skins that are lit bought because they blend into the environment. Most F2P games have P2W things about them. Is it as prev as a +2 agi nah but they are there. Hell even WoT is F2P and you can buy Prem tanks that are 10$ min that are just overall better then most tanks u can unlock

[lone storm]

well i didnt fucking know

[pastel stirrup]

Sometime when we are in the portal it take 1 sec to the game to register we are in

[vapid arch]

skill issue

[tall thunder]

What about if they put them all pay to have are they all suddenly OP as hell and pay 2 win?

[sullen grail]

Any stat change that is locked behind a pay wall is considered Pay To Win. You have to Pay to recieve that Stat Change that directly effects gameplay. The extent of the effect does not matter. It changes the gameplay

[wooden coral]

boohoo I have to buy red shards for this game I’ve played completely for free for years so that I can move 0.001% faster

[grave geode]

The problem is that you can get a plus 2 agi skin, and this skin is ONLY available through red shards, the twitch drop skin isnt even the same which is really wack

[tall thunder]

At the same time though you was all saying races make zero difference make your whiney minds up

So none of the stats make a difference but they suddenly do when you guys gotta pay is that right lmao

[sullen grail]

It's the principle of the matter. If we don't raise concern over this, what happens when they make a race thats Paid only and it has even crazier stat buff.

We cannot encourage a business model that damages the gameplay of the game we put our time and money into.

[forest pilot]

This man is SPITTIN

[tall thunder]

It's a business its not here to make you happy its here to make money

[sullen grail]

Sitting in complacency is the same as asking for more OP races to be released for money in the future. You must raise awareness to IronMace, the untouchable rulers of this game, to actually make a change.

[arctic dock]

Or just lazy, money printing content in general.

[grave geode]

it doesnt really matter because you can get everything else just from playing, but this specific race is paywalled and on top of that they increased the price of it

[gleaming iris]

will arenas be out for good later this wipe

[cunning kestrel]

Why is Ironmace adding borderline p2w into the game with the new skins being locked behind red shards?

[velvet gull]

You need to learn how each escape works, there's portal (you walk through them), ropes on Goblin caves (that you press F), Blue gates on Ruins (Red ones send you to Crypts), that you stay on them until you extract and the gates on ruins that you have to raise the bridge, then walk until you off the map.

[tranquil hare]

can you unlock horsemans axe OR viking sword in base gear through quests?

[limber badge]

People be mad they can't be male furries

[velvet gull]

Actually there should be a tutorial in this game, now that I think about it.

[grave geode]

weaponsmith quest

[sullen grail]

If the weapon can innately be used by your class without the need of a perk, then yes they will be available once enough rating is earned with the respective merchant

[tranquil hare]

TYVM

[tall thunder]

People just mad they gotta pay for something that's all

[sacred vapor]

There's a readable tutorial somewhere, I saw it. If you don't have the common sense to go through a portal that's on you lol

[sullen grail]

Another thing, once you get your rating very high, once more quests are out, you can increase the rarity of your Squire items to White, instead of Grey

[tall thunder]

Mofo high roller is p2w then if you all wanna go down thst route but we won't will we.........

[shy hazel]

I can't link to twitch?

[sacred vapor]

Spam the button for a solid minute

[shy hazel]

invalid csrf token

[sullen grail]

Every single race except for the Exclusive Rewards for Seasonal HR should be able to be purchased with Red or Blue Crystal Shards, never only Red.
It doesn't matter how P2W something is, it matters that it's P2W. Its a stat change that can only be obtained through a pay wall.

Take Surv Bows away from Bard, Give % Damage Debuffs to Fighters that use Bows, remove 75% of the damage boost from landing Reposte, take away the BS gear restrictions on Arena, stop making P2W Races, Stop making Troll Pelt D/R lower when having more luck.

Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk

[tall thunder]

Like I said HR is literally p2w you get access to juiced pvp but nobody is speaking about that aspect are they

[velvet gull]

It might as well be a EULA, new players won't read it, and even them, why not have a tutorial on all aspects of the game? To be fair, I'm sure IM will do something like that when they add a training area, but still, it's a to do list.

[sullen grail]

You're talking about playing the Introduction to a game in the form of a demo with restrictions, and paying for the full game. They are not the same situation.

This is not a F2P game, this is a Pay2Play game. The F2P aspect is for people to test before they buy to see if they enjoy the game, since you cannot 2 hour refund method on steam

[grave geode]

honestly thats a problem too, there should be gs brackets in hr

[sacred vapor]

Because after maybe 1-2 hours of gameplay you figure out allat on your own and I think they have bigger priorities than to add a tutorial for a game like this, just watch a 5-10 minute video if you really need the guidance

[proud umbra]

can you do arenas with 2 people?

[tall thunder]

See more double standards from you...

It was p2w from the beginning now the races are not p2w like you have all said from the beginning their stats make zero difference

[grave geode]

dont bother too much with this guy, hes just here to ragebait

[fair crater]

my only prob with shop is that theres not more blue shard and red but thats not big of a deal imo

[sacred vapor]

You're delusional, legendary status is pay to win? Are you kidding me lol? That's just buying the full game, if you're not on legendary you're playing the demo

[verbal pulsar]

Only allowing certain streamers you like have drops first is terrible. We all thought you were biased to certain streamers based on your balancing but now it's confirmed. I thought drops were about the community? Guess it's about propping up those you like. Can't balance or design a game properly, biased as hell. Want to keep gear crushing in the game!!

These devs are trash and it's time to move on from this dumpster fire.

[timid basin]

game is garbage all around change my mind

[arctic dock]

It's not a double standard, hr is a feature of the full game, while paid-only skins are micro transactions post purchasing of the game

[cold spire]

based

[sacred vapor]

Every game does this, it's not something unusual @timid basin spoken like someone who just lost a kit due to: skill issue

[tall thunder]

So the races are OP now suddenly?

[terse sable]

can anyone tell me how to get to the Skeleton Champion on Ruins he is under the Destroyed Tower, how to get down there?

[outer pollen]

i feel like fighter's new magical deflection thing needs either to last longer or to have a shorter cooldown, like 10 seconds instead of 20, if its gonna remain only 3 seconds long...

or make it like 6 seconds and a 15 second cooldown or smth like that...

also maybe a bit less PVE in some of the arenas, that shit's insane.

[proud umbra]

can you do arenas with 2 people?

[timid basin]

I'm better than you will ever be at this game

[velvet gull]

Or you don't and you give up? let's not pretend it was easy to figure it out how to play this game, most of us took a day or 2 to learn enough to extract often enough to not quit the game on Playtest 1, it's not that much easier now (you can watch it on youtube, but that's external help).

[sullen grail]

It is not a double standard. When you buy a game, that is all you should have to pay for to experience the full gameplay that the game has to offer.

When you introduce races that cost real money on top of the game we already paid for, that purchase directly alters the gameplay, thus adding content we cannot access unless we go through a pay wall after we have already purchased the full game.

My argument is that all races that can be purchased with red crystals, should be able to be obtained with blue crystals all the same. Then there is not an issue, as you can gain the same advantage without spending more money.

Thus giving DnD the option to make more money from selling races to people that want to fast track, but still allow everyone to earn them as well

[tired sail]

the amount of people that are immediatly jerks or leave after 1 death in arena is kinda crazy

[tall thunder]

Ngl if you guys don't like microtransactions play another game never a f2p

[pulsar rock]

who thought adding a high mob density in arenas would be a good thing??????

[obtuse harness]

Why waste resources on a tutorial most people wont use. Id rather have them work on ingame stuff. If you want to learn there is 1000s of hours of free info on YTs from boss, monster, loot, gear, builds, etc. I think people way to use to getting their hand held. You want to learn either trial by fire and if you dont want to do that sit down watch a YT vid for 20m and you get a good start.

[arctic dock]

It's not a f2p, it's a paid game with a free demo

[forest pilot]

You like microtranscations? Why support this? Lol

[grave geode]

this is not a f2p game

[lavish shell]

having the paid version of the new race give the meta stat and not the drop version is diabolical ngl

[outer pollen]

im kinda in agreement, things that affect gameplay mechanics and arent JUST cosmetic shouldnt be only obtainable via real money

[proud umbra]

arena wont let me play with a party of 2?

[grave geode]

you need to fill, arenas is trio only

[tall thunder]

And my argument is that it was already p2w to enter the best dungeon so adding a damn race isn't much different but forget it you all just see black and white

[verbal pulsar]

Every game dev doing something is not a good reason to do it yourself.

[velvet gull]

It literally started was a paid game, the moment IM asked for money upfront, it was when it stopped being F2P.

[sullen grail]

This game is not F2P First, its Pay To Play with a Free Demo. That is where you are mistaken

[tall thunder]

A demo where does it even say that anywhere

[pulsar rock]

whats the incentive for arena?? Like you dont get any players stuff and youre risking losing yours??

[mint crypt]

can u lose gear in arena?

[craggy flare]

Buff rouge

[sullen grail]

For the first year this game was out, could you play it free to play? No you could not, they added the Free to Play feature to allow people to Demo the game and see if they enjoy it.

[cold spire]

Stop bro just stop... This is not good trolling. You are doing it wrong. Unless you are actually that stupid then mb continue

[arctic dock]

Bro you're the one that isn't listening, hr is a a feature of the pay to play game (its not available only in demo). Paid-only skins are what you call microtransactions. This line of argument is so dumb

[sacred vapor]

you're definitely trolling lol

[tall thunder]

It's dumb af to think that this will never have microtransactions seriously......

[obtuse harness]

Think meds and anything not looted or crafted by that char. But has to be crafted by that specific char if you chraft on a dif and pull out of ur share tab and take it in it could be lost

[grave geode]

if you use gear that is minted with your character name you will not lose it, there will be a ranked system added to it presumably with rewards later on, this is just the experimental version

[velvet gull]

Nah, her assets are still good.

[sullen grail]

We are not asking for no MTX, we are asking for no MTX that directly alters the gameplay, without a way to gain the same advantage without a paywall.

[mint crypt]

so if i buy a set it could be lost?

[obtuse harness]

yea

[sage stirrup]

so if i find a piece of gear on one character and swap it to another will it still be safe in arena?

[forest pilot]

And we can't voice our displeasure with the fact that they're coming in? Our only power is to complain or leave so some will lol.

[thick basin]

im going crazy waiting trying to get the blood platforms module in inferno. doing 40 minute runs just to get the wrong module is insane

[grave geode]

IM saying on their bio that they alwant to be above the rest of the industry’s scummy tactics so people need to hold them to that

[sullen grail]

Only if you lose the arena match, but yes it can be. If you find it on one char and swap it will not be safe in arena. Has to be used by the char it was found on

[tall thunder]

It doesn't change the game though does it you have already said the stats mean nothing...

[hushed forum]

Is there a way to take gold out of gold bags? I need to do this quest and it wont pull gold out of the bag

[sullen grail]

Any stat change is directly a gameplay change, no matter how minute it is. It is literally a gameplay change. Putting gameplay changes entirely behind a paywall is terrible to do

[last wyvern]

If you have a kit with 40 flat agility before this skin came out, and put this skin on you are gaining 5% increased agility. Warlock has an entire class perk that gives it 10% will. This skin is literally half of an entire class perk (that people use).

Also why does the skin cost more money? Because they KNOW it's p2w. Stop laying down for the sword when a multi million dollar company is trying to screw you after the community saved them from failing. I have no idea why people willingly and proudly support p2w crap being added into a game so a corporation can suck more money from you.

[tall thunder]

So every single race suddenly makes a difference now? That was like magic...

[sullen grail]

Do they have stat changes on them?

[tall thunder]

Oh so none of them have extra stats now? Just the p2w one?

[grave geode]

hes just ragebaiting dont waste your time

[sullen grail]

We are not asking that. We are asking for races that change stats that are locked behind red shars only (Pay wall), to be able to be purchased with Blue Shards as well.

[viscid shale]

Anyone else having an issue with the in game browser not being able to link to twitch?

[last wyvern]

There's a raeson why this skin costs the most as well, they know it's p2w and people will want it.

[velvet gull]

move the bag with the mouse to another space+alt

[arctic dock]

Microtransactions aren't bad, but content that isn't obtainable through play time on a paid game is dumb as hell

[tall thunder]

So the other races are completely fine their stats don't do anything to change gameplay but this one is going to change it?

[sullen grail]

We never said the others are fine, this one just brought our attention to it.

[modest remnant]

What's the class hierachy like these days? Are warlock, wizard, and cleric any good compared to the melee classes in low gear and high gear lobbies?

[grave geode]

they are all obtainable through blue shards so it doesnt really matter

[balmy mango]

What does Solaris give you ?

[tall thunder]

Isn't there some old races that nobody can even get now and some people have?

[last wyvern]

Is there a reason you have decided to white knight for a company, that is literally just trying to milk more money of it's already paying users by making them want to buy skins with tangible in-game power.

People would just buy normal cosmetic skins, why add power to them at all?

[wanton hazel]

can you use quest rewards/stuff from reward tokens in the arena?

[nova tendon]

i cant byt redshards

[jagged yarrow]

Nightmare Skeleton. Not a big fan of that being unavailable for perpetuity.

[velvet gull]

Warlock is busted, wizard and cleric seems fine-ish, probably on the weak side but alright.

[sullen grail]

Exclusive Rewards from Seasonal High Roller leaderboards should never be able to be obtained for money or Blue shards. That is why they are exclusive for performing well

[modest remnant]

Alright, thanks for the response.

[last wyvern]

The only reason they would add power to skins is because they offer a tangible benefit for someone to buy them and they know it will increase sales. People pretending like these are just random stats thrown on for I guess no reason, what is your logic?

[velvet gull]

No problem

[wanton hazel]

can you use quest rewards or reward token items in the arena?

[tall thunder]

But isn't that giving people an unfair advantage the same way a p2w race is?

[lone storm]

im uninstalling this game already, im done having to always deal with this bullshit, always losing over and over and over, not making any progress and not getting better whilst others do, i wanted this game to be fun but all i see is that its another one of those games where if youre not good at it youre fucked and cant improve, everything i do to get better amounts to nothing, always being put against better players, and yet somehow people just expect me to magically "get good" from losing all the time

[near swallow]

why tf are there mobs in arena? what a waste of time. I waited months and months just to fight more skeletons? Make it make sense IronMace

[sullen grail]

That advantage isnt earned from swiping a credit card, its earned through playing the game, and all players at that time had the same opportunity to earn it

[sonic stump]

do you not get religion bonuses unless tabbing into the religion tab every time ur in lobby? my bard doesn't get the luck for blythar until I click onto the religion tab every match.

[tall thunder]

So one thing is alright but as soon as a business wants to do business stuff it's a no no.....

[last wyvern]

If you are going to say the stats mean nothing, you have to provide a reason why ironmace would even put them on the skins? They obviously know they offer an advantage and it makes them sell better.

[grave geode]

… is this satire? how many hours do you have? Also this game is intended to be hardcore so you should’ve expected it to be difficult

[lone storm]

ive played before it came out on steam, so idk. also no its not satire, why do you ask?

[tall thunder]

I was told by pretty much everyone here stats mean nothing but suddenly they do

[obtuse harness]

Does the will perk make u lose Life, Life Regen, ATP? again pros and cons my friend. Is it P2W yea. But its not as significant as people are make it be I gain +2ms from agi given not a game breaker. Exp when I also lose life a solid Warlock kit you want a min of 125hp and 310 MS so these numbers are still requiring me to gear around them

[last wyvern]

No player that actually plays the game would tell you this. So stop listening to them.

[tall thunder]

It's coincidentally by the same people crying about this bs

[last wyvern]

It's not just agility movement speed.

Certain classes scale their damage off of certain attributes. Druid scales damage off of agility.

[grave geode]

you have to be doing something terribly wrong to not see any improvement, the game is marketed as a hardcore game, its supposed to be hard, people with 100s to even 1000s of hpurs still struggle with things, but thats the point

[chrome sorrel]

Forreal bro people expect devs to make their game free and give everything for free its insane like the game wouldn't exist. Ironmace is out here fighting lawsuits like they need money to be able to do that yet they released a free version of the game and the microtransactions are pretty damn miniscule in comparison to most games. Every single skin you can equip has downsides as well, the people in this discord are honestly some of the most miserable and unintelligent people in the industry I don't know why I come back.

[summer bloom]

so as long as u bring in loot that is "found by your name" you wont loose it?