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deep galleon
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I'll go through all of your posts:

  1. Yes, I made the currently meta weapons weaker and the bad weapons stronger in order to reduce the power gap between weapons. Some weapons have proven to be far too powerful (Bardiche) to stay in their current state (especially considering the other changes) and need to be toned down, while others are simply not up to par with the rest in the current state of the game. A shake-up to what the current meta is is always going to be healthier than keeping the same weapons in the same-ish state that continues perpetuating problems.

  2. The Morningstar is getting buffed because of the Flanged Mace's massive buff in order to distinguish the two weapons. Morningstar is the much more powerful-hitting base mace, but has the least armor penetration. Flanged Mace, however, would be a weaker mace with higher penetration to make it feel more viable.

  3. The first change is supposed to be a quality of life change when blocking with just about anything. The fact you are practically stuck in shield after blocking feels like an error in design and doesn't mesh well with how other aspects of the game work. This would make blocking with weapons much more smooth.

chrome sun
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Bro loves his walls of text

cursive vale
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would true magical damage be added to each individual magic middle or spread across all 10

fervent bronze
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in-game teaming needs to be reportable

thorn nimbus
dawn steppe
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do explosive bottles work on lich

hexed cliff
fervent bronze
stoic arch
jagged cape
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this new instant reset mega healing on every class has made healing classes junk, movement speed builds EVEN MORE POWERFUL cause they can just reset even quicker without a healing class. I member when they wanted every little thing to have such weight, getting hit using a heal, now its meaningless in range fights or hitting classes faster then u cause they can always auto reset with the heal changes, theres legit no reason in this meta and patch phase to not run max movement speed otherwise your basicly feeding loot

frail moss
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An underrated thing that makes this game HARD is not seeing their health. Having no clue how much HP they have outside of an educated guess.

In Dungeons and Dragons most DMs will use healthy-injured-bloodied. Might be not a bad idea for there to be signs of wear and tear at certain % hp thresholds.

winter owl
swift pebble
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barb is really good in low gs then falls off

jagged cape
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barb can still one shot and two shot at high gs adn have max movement speed just harder to juke all the mega range dps

fast kernel
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Is it happening to anyone to the game keep closing while in menus?

wicked fog
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does the wipe reset quests?

native olive
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If i get a certain rank reward with one character, can i use that reward on all my characters?

native olive
fervent plaza
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If I was running Bardiche on my Barb so far, but now seem to be too slow to effectively kite/dodge mobs, what options do I have in terms of weapons?

jagged cape
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they just had to nerf Bardiche on barb some , just the dmg cause it was dominating the game

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if your having problem with a bardiche on mobs and not even players then try another class or another game

fervent plaza
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Did not know people were that helpful
Thanks, will try a new weapon or class, Barb was going great though but I got too slow for the HR mobs

jagged cape
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if u cant handle mobs that u can make attack nothing and move back from with even full plate on and kill ez with one hand weps, and your having problems with one of the best two handed weps in teh game on mobs not just people, not many people here cant help you, im just glad u know how to take in oxygen and release co2, sorry were jerks but it gets old seeing special teams questions like that

crude sinew
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Online on steam - websocker error / In-Game on Steam - Websocket error / Steam Store - Issue / Steam community - Service Unavailable / Steam Wep API - Bad Gateway.. Steam is having major issues

turbid pine
nimble hinge
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does DnD not let me connect thru chrome remote desktop? seems like every time i try it insta dcs me.. i justa wanna do some auctions

proud nymph
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My little brother and I were playing and he randomly got a ban labeled “Abnormal Detection” on the middle of our game does anyone know what this could mean? He doesn’t cheat that I know for certain

crude sinew
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according to their webpage Steam should be up and running again now. Messages on their page says service is back to Normal

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Frankfurt servers back up and running with low capacity. (🛠 Steam is down for routine maintenance every Tuesday.)

gray verge
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Is it possible to cheese your way into more empty high roller lobbies by changing server to, say SA, and eating the ping diff?

nimble hinge
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its possible but can't guarantee anything really

proud nymph
vapid oyster
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ya grayson is going to personally pull up your ticke.. wait you didn't make a ticket and he has no info

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also I love the entire category of "My friend got banned and I'm advocating for him on discord" posts. Always brilliant

proud nymph
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i dont even know where to put a ticket we've only been playing for about 2 weeks and abnormal detection is very vague plus it's not my friend it's my little brother? tf is up your ass?

balmy prism
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Do we know if the new matchmaking system is here to stay?

frail moss
frail moss
misty loom
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does the game feel awful or is that just me? Im getting nonstop third partied every fight

fervent bison
misty loom
fervent bison
misty loom
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im not going mid

fervent bison
# misty loom im not going mid

sorry didn't notice the fact you mention the outskirts, english isn't my main idiom, but if that happens to you then mostly is just unlucky or your fights take a long time to finish

clear blade
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just a quick rant. getting burnt out just trying to complete quests for Inferno :((. I still can't get the attack pattern of these mfing berserkers

fervent bison
clear blade
loud perch
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will they ever fix the stuttering?

fervent bison
oblique steeple
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cheese spot Skull just kill it

fervent bison
oblique steeple
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and why do u have low frames

fervent bison
oblique steeple
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i have never had an fps drop close to any amount of players

fervent bison
dense igloo
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revert fireball splash damage before i fucking kms

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miss your spell? don't worry you'll chunk 1/5 of their hp in a basekit!

ocean coral
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how to whisper in lobby

fervent bison
ocean coral
mystic coral
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crazy to me that there still isnt a druid channel under the Class Discussion category 😂 😂

clear blade
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Entered inferno.
Got greeted by spiders and 2 nightmare axeman.
-sighs-

turbid pine
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nightmare axemen are a menance

fervent bison
clear blade
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I've gotten to the mindset.
Ok. So I matrix/dodge Berserker or just run away and find a cheese spot.
nope. axeman.
dead haha. Ill take a break for now i suppose from DnD 😦

solar night
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Are Cleric more durable than fighters and barbs?

clear blade
turbid pine
solar night
turbid pine
fervent bison
# turbid pine generally no but they *can* be sometimes

haha... that one time I was with a group of friends and a geared cleric just ran towards us and 2 tap all of us (except fore me he needed 1 more hit bc I was pdr cleric) we also had an armor penetration rogue but I guess you can't make it work if he died almost instantly

west fog
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is anyone willing to help me and a friend finish cyclops quest

pearl zenith
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AP system is so bad lmao

grand shadow
clear blade
tough carbon
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quick question. as warlock how should i be dealing with the 2nd floor? hydra blocking and hellfire spam doesnt seem to clear very quickly

grand shadow
tough carbon
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i cant buy the game yet id rather not throw away my stash to practice with rogue

tidal plover
tough carbon
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i see.. that is kind of limited as warlock but ill keep that in mind i guess

grand shadow
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No, warlock has the bardiche it’s not limited at all. Also when you’re out of a mobs attack range you can hellfire it easily

tough carbon
grand shadow
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You can group and position mobs to get stacked on each other and hit multiple things with 1 hellfire to speed things up

cosmic ember
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Do Lich's still have a 33 percent chance to spawn?

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Ive been to inferno about 5 or 6 times today and none of them have been Lich

turbid pine
mystic coral
fervent bison
cosmic ember
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I have been going to inferno for 3 or 4 days in a row and it has been lich twice

mystic coral
fervent bison
opaque beacon
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just lost a cloack of darkness and epic bear pendant to a glitch with the goblin merchant system when you drop your friend an item

fervent bison
deep galleon
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{Vulgun's Patch, Part 5, Because Now I'm Doing this Out of Spite}

[Gear Score Difficulty]
-Gear Score now determines the difficulty of the dungeon, with mobs of higher difficulty appearing somewhat more frequently per tier of gear score. Elite mobs will appear more frequently in 25-124 lobbies and Nightmare mobs will appear more frequently in 125+ lobbies.

[Random Attributes]
-As an experiment, random attributes considered "more favorable" are now less likely to appear on gear.
-As an additional experiment, attributes that increase Armor Rating, Magic Resistance and Weapon Damage no longer appear, but instead are added on top of the gear item's static stat and this stat appears in blue and have markers on the side indicating its change.
-Gear with additional armor rating, magic resistance and weapon damage will not make room for an additional random attribute.

[All Attributes Bonus]
-All Attributes returns, but with a catch. If the bonus appears on any armor piece whatsoever, that armor piece will not receive other random attributes. This means if you get "All Attributes", you cannot also get "Physical Damage Bonus" or others.
-The strength of the All Attributes bonus is dependent on the rarity of the gear now, with it being 1 for Uncommon and Rare Gear, 2 for Epic and Legendary Gear, and 3 for Unique Gear.

[Magic Meter]
-As a final experiment, a new "Magic Meter" system is introduced for the Cleric as the first class to receive it. This system removes spell charges completely, instead pooling all spells into one singular resource.
-The Magic Meter can be restored by dealing physical damage to targets or by drinking Potions of Clarity.
-This system would basically add more strategy towards using spells while increasing the quality of life of spellcasting, removing the boring nature of waiting mid-match to restore spells and instead giving players more action and agency to use them and restore them.

tender merlin
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New player. Are duo high roller in ice cave pretty active for pvp? My friend and I want to practice on elites and get wanderer but can’t afford the GS min. Not gunna be upset if we get wrecked just trying to get an idea

turbid pine
grand shadow
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Honestly as long as you queue at the start of the map rotation you should get at least 2 other teams on there

turbid pine
tender merlin
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That’s super useful. I was trying to just buy purple 1h purple chest, and all greens in slots

fervent bison
grand shadow
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Best way to grind ap is crypts or ice caves, go to hell and open all the locked chests you can

wanton iris
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whens wizard nerf

deep galleon
# fervent bison magic meter should be added mainly to wizard, until they balance the class

Wizard would get it too, all spellcasters (except Warlock) would. The thing is that the current system with spell counts is just absolutely, positively unintuitive and just reduces the amount of freedom spellcasters have in this game.

If there was a magic meter, a class like Cleric would be able to use something like Earthquake more often and perhaps the viability of it would increase with it. But with the current spell charge system and the fact Earthquake just sucks in general, you will never really see it be run outside of niche circumstances.

fervent bison
naive atlas
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How much time do I have on each map before it auto kills?

grand shadow
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Earthquake is great for killing that overconfident juicer squad that thinks they can speedrun through the lobby

rugged basin
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I understand that GS is the primary factor the mm system uses to match make, however I believe that it is probably using the players stats to match make as well. This is just from personal experience but when me and my mates run for example high movespeed builds, every time without fail the lobbies are way more full and very juiced.

This would make sense also from a dev perspective to factor in player stats as well as GS to have more balanced lobbies and to stop people from filling up there inventory with trash and queuing into high GS lobbies.

But thats just a theory, a film theory.

inner quail
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Do slows stack multiplicatively or additively? If I slow with 15% from Faithfulness and 20% from Morning Star hitslow, is the slow .85*.80=~32% slow?

frozen socket
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BRO IS THE GOBIN MERCHANT TAXING MY SHIT?? tf???

runic turtle
summer briar
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So is preteaming in solos always this common?

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I chased a rogue off troll, he comes back with his warlock buddy who was clearly doing cyclops (they went into mid treasure room after killing me) and 2v1 me to make sure they get the loot.

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I watched till the end and they took the lift out together its SOOOOOOOO obvious lol

runic turtle
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Yea it’s pretty common in gob caves

hard rock
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Could be they met in the game? Idk

summer briar
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-sigh- Alright. Being considerate clearly gets me no where in this game. Kill everything on sight.

hard rock
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Two players being friendly in a game can happen.

summer briar
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Naw I speced till the end. They also had a cleric and druid. None of them fighting.

ancient slate
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anybody roughly or exactly know the maximum amount of players for each map in each party size?

blissful needle
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We need this game for console please and thank you ❤️

spice robin
blissful needle
spice robin
cobalt quail
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what spells count as arcane on mage?

blissful needle
turbid pine
night quarry
cobalt quail
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seems like a wasted perk lol

balmy minnow
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can we just put prison in the middle of GC already lol?

thick basin
night quarry
lofty quest
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Hey guys sorry for the beginner-esque question but does one hell door transport your entire duo/trio?

turbid pine
weary widget
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I have killed so many fkn death beetles and only got 1 wings. that is all

lofty quest
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Tysm

torn fulcrum
weary widget
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Green unfortunately, bug shells are blue. think I just have to grind it out and stop whining lol. goblin dance is the only quest reward I'd endure this for

torn fulcrum
cloud gate
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For a while now I have been getting stutters in game constantly and I don't know why. I can't really play spell casters anymore cause a stutter eats the cast entirely and I can barely play rush down characters cause I stutter backwards. I don't lag in any other games so it can't be lag. I have moved the install location to my main hard drive and changed so many settings but to no avail. Does anyone know why this happens / has a fix?

wide walrus
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i just died to a barb in hr because i heard no footssteps at all!!

marsh thicket
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Can you block the liches homing projectile with a shield?

subtle heart
cobalt dock
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wipe ends in 8 days right?

runic turtle
cobalt dock
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someone is telling em that the timer isnt for wipe?

high sapphire
autumn burrow
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anyone wanna duo? im new and need help

graceful wind
subtle anchor
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can we please get a quiver slot in the inventory for ranger

high sapphire
keen jungle
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Which is easier? DaD or dungeon borne? Easier for casual play. Serious question

gaunt saddle
subtle heart
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when is the next wipe happening

uncut tusk
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is demonlock bis in <25 competitive lobbies?

turbid pine
versed tusk
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Is there a way to fix Traven.exe error code: 3?

late pewter
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Does Spell memory Affect how many spell charges you have per spell?

vapid oyster
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nope

glossy flax
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when is wizard gonna be nerfed?

sharp bloom
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PLEASE IRONMACE ADD AFTER GAME PLAYER NAMES NOT SHOWING THIER FRIEND NAMES BUT THIER GAME NAMES LITRALLY HAD TWO ROGUES TRY TO LAND MIND ME FAIL THEN IN ANOTHER OCCURANCE AFTER THEY FIND MY LOCATION THE OTHER ONE TRYS TO SNEAK UP. litrally have vod of it

vapid oyster
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never, buff wizards

glossy flax
vapid oyster
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it's the only skillful and fun class in the game

glossy flax
vapid oyster
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pretty much have to be a genius to even begin to play wizard

wise cipher
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IronMace will kill the game if they dont fix the studder and cheating problems

cosmic swan
lunar fable
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What advantage can a cheater have in the game, just wallhack?

cosmic swan
gray remnant
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do you keep races if you delete a character and make a new one?

cosmic swan
wise cipher
flat cave
cosmic swan
wise cipher
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there are plenty of anti cheat softwares that can detect very simple, and very cheap cheats making it harder to commit to cheating in the first place. No one should be walking around with ESP that is very easy to detect any form of script not coded into the game. League does it all the time, they even have a "teminate the game" system if a cheater is detected.

flat cave
cosmic swan
flat cave
turbid pine
flat cave
rustic axle
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nah incentivises turtling too much

ember sigil
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holy, every single lobby is pdr fighter, unironically the past 3 games ive ran into 7 pdr fighters and 1 warlock, this is ridiuclous lmao

cosmic swan
# wise cipher there are plenty of anti cheat softwares that can detect very simple, and very c...

They already have an anti cheat solution. League is the worst exemple you can find, it's a big company with the money to pay a good anti cheat solution and Vanguard have it's own issues as it's very intrusive for the player computer. But yes cheater are a problem. The issues is that there is no easy, or free solution. Anti cheat are expansive and/or intrusive. Ironmace is going for something like Counter Strike with a system where player can review game and judge reported player. Imo that's the best thing they can do as a small company

wise cipher
turbid pine
# flat cave What do you mean

the end of this wipe isn't necessarily the start of the next
there's a very small period inbetween that's like a pre-season
or so someone in this chat said something along those lines

no clue myself if it's acutally true

rustic axle
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bro think about it for 2 seconds the most viable option in any melee scenario would be to wait for them to swing so you can get a reposte with the benefits and every melee fighting game doesnt needs to have perfect parries i like how this game is more aobut spacing and dodging static swing patterns

flat cave
wise cipher
cosmic swan
flat cave
turbid pine
wise cipher
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fighters have like 4 perks that incourage turtling lol

rustic axle
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i mean ive played mordhau and for honor and it does seem like the most viable option is to turtle and play defensive. its hard to compare those games theres alot less on the line for people to play a boring style like that, and also those games dont have as extreme of weapon diversity like how this game does. in those games you just win or lose the current fight, but in DnD you have your gear on the line aswell perma lossm mechanic so people will min max things more so than other games

rapid lava
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man sub 25 is so fun

rustic axle
wise cipher
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SDF said that he wanted the game to be punishing on your choices. having a back up mechanic that is something to souley rely on to play safer is contradictory to what the game devs want the game to be.

turbid pine
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pvp is so much more fun when you have a guarantee the other guy has the same amount of gear

cosmic swan
# wise cipher okay, no league isnt a bad example bc you only stated "You can't fix cheating, n...

We have to remember that Ironmace is a quite small company. You can't say "Riot have a good anticheat" (that's relative tho, i'm sure there is still cheater in LoL and Valorant, probably not a lot but still) and use that to say it's possible so IM should have the same stuff. Game like Overwatch or Rainbow 6 have Blizzard and Ubisoft behind them and still have huge cheater issues. How you deal with cheater is a choice, company can go for really expansive, intrusive solution to prevent cheater or, like Counter strike, choose to punish people who cheat and dissuade people to cheat. Thats what IM choose and I think it's the best call for a company that small

runic turtle
rapid lava
honest badge
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whats our thoughts of 70% of lobbies being rondel plate fighters?

runic turtle
honest badge
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fr

cosmic swan
rustic axle
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sure i concede on the turtling bit, but you cant say this game doesnt have a complex melee system its just not as apparent as other games, the skill ceiling is just as high in this game as mord and chiv even those the games dont really compare. spacing all the different weapons and knowing their attack patterns has just as much potentially as any other melee based game. sword fighting games dont need parry and deflects to be depthful

honest badge
runic turtle
high sapphire
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bro play shield bash fighter and go crazy like ive been doing. its real fun and the speed and dex boost with counter feels so good

tepid beacon
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How does one make a Voice Chat channel on here?

wise cipher
# cosmic swan We have to remember that Ironmace is a quite small company. You can't say "Riot ...

With an extraction game banning the cheater is something not the only justification that is needed. Repoze spend a week and a half finding, buying, and creating the BiS build full Unique. Imagine the first raid he hops into and he dies to a party of cheaters. Suddenly the week and a half he spent on making that build is put on an account and the accound is banned and all that loot is voided. Cheating with extration games need to be detected and suppressed prior, not after.

rustic axle
# runic turtle The only real argument against combat like chiv or Mordhau is that the skill cap...

ive played mordhau and scene the vast levels of skill going from completely pooping on one guy but then not being able to hit another guy at all. very complex and works for that game. but im saying in THIS game the current melee system while obviously having weak points and areas that can be improved adding a widespread parry mechanic outside of it being a niche ability for some weapons ruins the game in my eyes

robust vine
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hey i am trying to fight the ghost king, i am jumping for his body slam, im jump crouched in the air, and it still killed me?

wise cipher
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you literally said that all weapons should have a parry and reposte first off, and im hard disagreeing with you. they have confirmed that they will add more weapons with a parry mechanic, but its not their prio. thats why im so confused on why youre even saying anything. Not all weapons should have a parry. (if they did it would encourage turtling.)

cosmic swan
runic turtle
wise cipher
robust vine
cosmic swan
wise cipher
robust vine
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aight imma have to try again, i just need to kill lich and ghost king, just painful to learn because of the route there

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ive propably gotten him to that slam, 4 times now? just always gets me when ive jumped and jump crouched, maybe im to late

wise cipher
runic turtle
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I get where you’re coming from but the Mordhau combat system just wouldnt fit for this game. The player count would drastically decrease. Noobs are already having trouble just killing goblins.

robust vine
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maybe i should try and get a team

rustic axle
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idk man saying this melee system is shallow juust isnt true, theres alot of variables at play i dont think youre realizing ( your weapon range, enemy weapon range, youre move speed, enemy move speed, your damage, enemy damage which all vary greatly depending on class and gear score, it takes alot of knowledge to be good at melee combat in this game

runic turtle
rustic axle
high sapphire
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fuck hr GC its an ESP FEST IRONMACE. fuck warlocks sitting still in a corner for 5 mins after killing a juicer and a warlock just happens to go all the way around the door i was next to and proceed to ms cap kite me. this game is so fucking bullshit sometimes

runic turtle
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He was wrong about the turtling and the combat being complex but I don’t think more parries should be in the game. Long sword parry is already dumb strong

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Nah this game doesn’t need that. Good to keep it casual and high player count

high sapphire
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if youve played the game long enough u know how to bait out attacks from people just by stepping in. keeps it simple yet scary because if u dont have a shield ur relying all on footwork

runic turtle
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Yea I think it’s fine the way it is

robust vine
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mfw lich puts the red/purple circle on you, and an archer hits one shot just as it hits you, so you insta die.

high sapphire
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i just started using shields too and its like a whole other world

runic turtle
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Combat system definitely is tho

warm grotto
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best classes for duos bossing?

subtle heart
warm grotto
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💀

rich sky
final saddle
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do we know of any character nerd or buffs this wipe?

trim musk
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and maybe just punish rondel + buckler fighters with the inability to use bucklers with daggers

runic turtle
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Nerf daggers on fighter

trim musk
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I really love fighter and I love the amount of subclassing there is, but I don't think the half pdr half movespeed rondel + buckler fighters are really healthy for the game

runic turtle
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Same, rondel buckler is just dumb and looks goofy as hell

white rain
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who else rips hella slurs when they die to a wizards in pm

white rain
random kayak
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why do fighters get to use bows? that's so cringe. they literally have shields and multiple skills to gap close

earnest lava
subtle heart
tranquil depot
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Does anyone else keep getting forced out of the game due to a client crash?

earnest lava
subtle heart
tranquil depot
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Anyone else having this issue?

storm surge
eternal lily
trim musk
dense pine
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uhgh did a hotfix just drop?

spice robin
eternal lily
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I agreed and would wish for mordhau style gameplay but what purpose will it serve when the meta has always been and will always be range and kiting with enough ms

crude sinew
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since the 4th of august there has been a decrease in amount of player playing dark and darker on steam, player count has gone down with 20k. Players on right now is 11k players on steam across all regions/servers. 1k less players than it was yesterday at this time, there are more people watching others play than playing the game themselves. That adds up when i look back on my raids. Only 2k people watching dark and darker creators on Twitch. Wipe is needed, blow some fresh air under the wings of this game.

elfin wren
stiff crow
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weird question but it feels like the tailor quest to kill a bard is basically impossible i feel as though ive not seen a bard all season. Anyone help me out, am i not looking hard enough or is this quest maybe needing a tweak?

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quests that require you to kill specific classes just feel a little well poor if a class just isnt played as much as it used to

runic turtle
stiff crow
# runic turtle try trios? not too many bards in solo

ill keep grinding trios but it feels a bit rough because its not like i can ask my friend to not last hit a player in a pvp situation but at the same time as i said i havent seen a bard in like maybe 50 games of trio

runic turtle
crude sinew
# elfin wren Its normal for the player base to drop near a wipe, dunno why everyone keeps loo...

you dont need to look at steam chart to look at the health of the game. The amount of bs ive died to the last 3 days, the amount of emergency patches they have had says that there have been major issues in the game thats has been fixed, and there are still issues that needs to be fixed. if you would have taken a "off the record" healt check for this game, where du you suggest i look ? (asking for a friend) Since your answer kinda say that was a "wrong", or not the best place to look.

eternal lily
stiff crow
eternal lily
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The idea of bards being opps n#1 cuz of a quest will always be funny to me

crude sinew
covert mango
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we usually jump/bunnyhop to save movement while taking actions (pots, swapping weapons etc.) Would jump crouching be better than simply jumping or it there some kind of movement penalty?

crude sinew
stiff crow
sullen fossil
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ive noticed some setups dont use torches/lantern and i just wanna know how u guys see anything at all??

eternal lily
elfin wren
# crude sinew you dont need to look at steam chart to look at the health of the game. The amo...

Look whatever you want, you have player list in-game too to see how many players are online, all im saying its normal to be less players this late in the season, i never said it is wrong just inaccurate in terms of players online (when you log in the difference between steam charts and in game players is around 3 to 5k) and plus its early acess state right? You’ll die to alot more shit in the future till they get the things right its how it is.

sullen fossil
dusty pendant
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pls fix wallhack for every1 its not like this is a problem for while or anything 😄

dense pine
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if im doing loot runs should i regularly go to inferno?

manic elm
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idk if its just me or the new matchmaking, but I have constantly half of the lobby in the troll room or around. It became impossible to farm that pelt and get away with it, even hard to get that kill first if you have not spawned close.

eternal lily
astral remnant
#

Hi, when the wipe happens do the quest resets to?

gaunt blade
#

they seriously need to remove AP loss from pvp deaths, if you die to PVE thats on you, if you die to a player running with 4 times your GS then its has nothing to do with skill.

tidal kelp
#

casterlock buff when?

eternal lily
# dense pine normals

Yeah inferno isn’t that hard if you encounter a demon berserker or centaur you can always lock them away in a room at spawn or something

crude sinew
# stiff crow youre probs right. This wipe is honetly the first time ive properly gotten into ...

well, if you look at the chat, people are getting two tapped by a wizard with two fireballs 😛 ! But to do that you will prob end up spending a few k gold on kit. play whatever u are able to kill mobs with. go high roller, kill mobs and go to hell and kill some nightmare mobs, then ull end up getting like 800-1200 AP pr raid. choose another caracther, rince and repeat. Think you have 7-8 days left before wipe.

gaunt blade
sullen fossil
#

its a pvpve game and the ap is tied to that. its really that simple. otherwise you would barely ever lose ap from dying* and the risk would be eliminated. would be ridiculous

thorn nimbus
thorn nimbus
grim pecan
#

anyone else use nvidia geforces in-game overlay, and have the issue where it doesnt work and just blinks on your screen?

thorn nimbus
#

It works for me but lightshot does the blink thing

twin oasis
#

both works without blinking

thorn nimbus
gaunt blade
grim pecan
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welp for some reason it keeps happening only with DnD. Also instead of sending the records to the DnD folder it sends it to what it records on my desktop. i cant blame geforce becuase it works with other games

thorn nimbus
thorn nimbus
sullen fossil
# gaunt blade no

the current system works like that because its the truth which doesnt care about your feelings unfortunately

thorn nimbus
gaunt blade
#

I don't care about your invalid arguments that you should only play using absolute BIS

thorn nimbus
#

You dont know what BIS even means lmao
Besides no you can play with trash but then people will just handle you like trash and put you in the bin without much effort

gaunt blade
thorn nimbus
#

Building a good kit is a skill
It requires knowing something about stats gear economy and money making which makes it a whole skillset
You lost because someone is better at the menu than you are lmao

sullen fossil
# gaunt blade Learning what? There is no skill to it? You died by a player that has 4 times th...

stop pretending that every encounter is against someone who has 4x your gearscore. if that is actually the reality, youre lowballing every entry because of economy mismanagement/skill issue. youre arguing only with hyperboles because its the only way you can attempt to make an argument. sometimes you get gear gapped. like everyone else in that situation you go next instead of asking IM to hold your hand through your ap grind which you want to remove any difficulty from

grim pecan
# gaunt blade Define good then 🙂

not sure why you think theres a point to be made there with what you just said. It just shows that you have nothing to provide to the argument. A good kit is whatever best helps with what the class you play does.

mossy wing
#

Let us all maintain respect during our conversations please 🙂

gaunt blade
#

Point is you go against ur own argument, you say its BIS or none. I only say if you die to someone by just having way higher items than you, there is nothing on your end.

sullen fossil
#

so what would stop you from lowballing every HR entry with no risk to ur ap loss on death

gaunt blade
sullen fossil
#

you die to mobs because youre bad. im talking in a general sense for players who have more than 50 hours played

grim pecan
gaunt blade
thorn nimbus
# gaunt blade Define good then 🙂

For every class its gonna be about 350-400gs
It needs to meet certain thresholds that are unique to each class like say atleast 5 true mag on a wiz is ideal, atleast 130 hp, near 40% mag power, above 60% spell casting etc
Fighter wants over 50% pdr over 290 speed decent physical damage bonus (like say near 20%), action speed near 20%
You want some good quality protect pots atleast 2 mag protect pots atleast one surg kit like 5 pot and bandage stacks, bandages of atleast common quality a decent ammount of other supplies (bolts, arrows, fran axes, campfires) depending on ur class

gaunt blade
thorn nimbus
#

Yeah no because above 400 GS getting significantly better stats is hard
A 400 gs wiz and 600 gs wiz will most likely differ by 5% of each total stat
You have 130 HP they have 140 2 fireballs will still nuke them but they have a tiny edge

sullen fossil
#

hopeless

rustic basalt
#

"OMG WHEN IS IRONMACE GONNA GIVE US PARTICIPATION TROPHIES IN HIGH ROLLER"

thorn nimbus
#

Besides GS doesnt take random rolls into account so ur epic gear might be significantly better than ur opponents legendaries but you need macro skill to recognise it and get it

sullen fossil
#

1 min slowmode timer and getting warnings for saying someone is bad idk why they want this discord server to be as dead as it is lol

grim pecan
mossy wing
thorn nimbus
#

Besides if you struggle so hard against good gear
Just bring good gear in yourself

rustic basalt
#

Use soft words so their feelings don't get hurt its a "new age"

thorn nimbus
void mason
#

Is 5 hours with 500 gold is okay?

thorn nimbus
brisk shell
#

When is wipe? and do i lose everything? (levels, quests etc)

grizzled meteor
chrome sun
#

Damn dude the new matchmaking system is working perfectly I have 128 gear score and I'm placed in a lobby with people that have 670 gear score, 480, and 854 gearscore. 100% def not outmatched purely by stats

grizzled meteor
chrome sun
grizzled meteor
thorn nimbus
chrome sun
grizzled meteor
chrome sun
#

People been saying over and over they got rid of that

mild glade
#

Get gud skill issue

chrome igloo
chrome sun
# mild glade Get gud skill issue

*Loses because someone has 700 more gear score than you

Ha skill issue you just suck. Ik one of my hits does half your health but you are just bad

runic plank
thin horizon
#

nerds

runic plank
thin horizon
zealous skiff
#

failed connect to server ?

chrome sun
#

The first few hours are mainly just coming to terms with the fact that outside solo its just full of pvp-only-ers

runic plank
chrome sun
thorn nimbus
# chrome sun Yeah but why am I being matched up with people that are like waaaaay beyond what...

It didnt the mm system just doesnt really exist
It puts you with any people it can find without regard for gs if u are above 124 and this is not a comp game but a free for all like say rust
If u want to get gear I reccomend just farming normals in a squire kit+doing gob merchant quests+learning what items are valuable enough to resell from traders then once you have enough money for a few GOOD kits go to HR and get moar money

runic plank
thorn nimbus
chrome sun
#

Whats the best kinda weapons to run with bard btw? I feel like I'm very squishy so speed ye, but what about damage wise

thorn nimbus
#

Yeah honestly normals above 125 just dont make much sense unless you are so rich that all you care about is pvp (which is also why you encountered such geared people they are there to hunt and murder eachother because its the only place with pure pvp)

thorn nimbus
runic plank
chrome sun
#

bru why are uncommon bucklers more expensive than rare ones on the market rn lol.

(dont bother checking for it I just bought out all the cheapest rare ones)

runic plank
thorn nimbus
#

Solo yes trios no also depends on the map
However HR also has actually threatening mobs which can interrupt pvp and some people dont want that so they do pvp in norms
@chrome sun this is because of 124 brackets, people min max their 124 kits to have the best kit in their class and this inflates green gear prices
Wanna be amazed ? Check green fine cuirass with max health
@runic plank ...read what he said he is doing bard

chrome sun
thorn nimbus
#

It is especially since it doesnt slow u down much and it gives armor rating (you can get one with additional armor rating and additional wep dmg btw)
Basically even if you never block with it it does something for u

trim bramble
#

What about the Subclasses system?

flat goblet
#

is the hr season skin character or account wide?

vapid arch
#

account wide

thorn nimbus
thorn nimbus
trim bramble
thorn nimbus
#

Im sure they want to make subclasses but I can just imagine people screaming when/if they added eldritch knight into the game

flat goblet
#

passive and active skills are already subclasses

robust vine
#

hey golden keys, is that inferno only? or is it also on crypts?and how do i know where the doors are?

hard rock
#

Why the fuck they adding mobile DnD

robust vine
random cargo
#

does vampirism buff shadow touch heal?

vapid arch
hard rock
#

Hey king floppa whats this thing about me gifting you nitro for a 1v1 in dark and darker

chrome sun
#

Are mummies not effected by the bards music? They kept targetting me even when I was using chaotic discord

hard rock
#

They don't have ears dude they rotted away

versed eagle
#

bring back base camp, wtf yall remove it for?

subtle heart
# hard rock Why the fuck they adding mobile DnD

They sold the rights to develop a mobile game of the DaD franchise. NO ONE from Ironmace is working on this game. It’s a completely different studio. The game is likely going to have some major differences aside from the theme being the same.

Dark and Darker Mobile is a mobile fantasy extraction RPG game developed by KRAFTON’s Bluehole Studio

stone haven
#

Yo ironhammer did we forget why we disallowed solos from queing into trios? Please help the rat army is taking over.

balmy scarab
#

they should add in a overall dps to Mobs and players at the end of the game

stone haven
hard rock
#

Krafton's ass

subtle heart
harsh oriole
#

lol

rapid vapor
vast lantern
#

Nerf wizard

thorn nimbus
rapid vapor
thorn nimbus
hard rock
silver dagger
vapid arch
chrome sun
subtle heart
hard rock
past flicker
#

when is wipe???

vapid arch
chrome sun
past flicker
hard rock
silver dagger
trim bramble
thorn nimbus
faint sparrow
#

if you guys knew how to actually balance your game this game would be so good @zinc sparrow

chrome sun
faint sparrow
#

Do you think the game is balanced?

chrome sun
stone haven
#

Yo ironhammer did we forget why we removed the ability to que solo into trios? The rat army is taking over.

chrome sun
#

I feel like @zinc sparrow is a fake account only kept up to direct mass pings on staff cuz it has the highest role KEKW
Its always online

random bay
#

so is weapon mastery gonna get a 15% damage nerf next wipe?

chrome sun
alpine zealot
#

Hey guys, has IM confirmed that they will continue to release quest rewards from the previous wipes going forward? E.g. the mummy skin and goblin dance will be purchasable from the store in the future?

random bay
subtle heart
hard rock
#

What do you think Ironmace is into?

ebon palm
silver dagger
covert forge
#

this game is dead already, youtubers publishing videos with aimbot every day its just dumb, you will be playing just to deliver your gear to the next cheater

light summit
#

And false bans. Yay for fasle bans

thorn nimbus
hard rock
#

So this game is just dead

runic turtle
#

hes not cheating hes just sweaty

leaden prairie
#

struggling to see the cheats in that video 🤣

hard rock
#

How can we save this game?

covert forge
# hard rock How can we save this game?

mb banning all the cheaters ? but i reported that one several weeks ago and he is not banned yet, like I said u will be just delivering your gear to the next cheater

leaden prairie
#

but that video uses a friendly duel between 2 in squad as an example of aimlock...
why would u want a cheat that locks on ur teamm8s?

covert forge
#

ill reapeat, he aimbots in every one of his videos. youtube for aimbot dnd and compare or try to notice, its easy to compare good aim with assisted aim and target prediction

gaunt saddle
#

I love when new players give their opinions on this game and call good players cheaters

leaden prairie
#

repeating urself doesn't answer my question

hard rock
#

And just iron mace doesn't care? @covert forge

covert forge
hard rock
#

Well they said they cared about taking care of cheaters... on many streams

thorn nimbus
#

He plays ranged fighter tho ?
Also lol you are terrible if you think he is cheating

hard rock
#

Oh is he bad player that's why he's calling cheats and saying the game is dead?

leaden prairie
#

i think he wishes it was dead.. 🤣

marsh thicket
#

does anyone know how many times the seleton warlord will changes phases before he dies, or is it just time based

inland bobcat
#

IS armor pen on rouge with two daggers a thing still im new? Or does armor pen not stack?

faint sparrow
#

@covert forge can you show me how hes cheating?

leaden prairie
#

are u a bot?

gaunt saddle
#

actually the worst "evidence" video yet, the entire video is him arguing that he's using some super impossible to detect stealth cheats, while also arguing that his stealth cheats don't know how to differentiate between an enemy and an ally

empty sun
#

lets move from witch hunting other players please, anyone is free to report any evidence of cheating via #in-game-reports

stone haven
#

But I enjoy witch hunting…

proud nymph
#

@empty sun do you know about how long @dusky trout takes to reply as well as if I’ve opened a chat with @cerulean delta how do I go about opening another conversation with them if the bot won’t reply back to me? It’s really urgent. Thank you for reading my message

chilly grove
#

fucking nerf dagger figther

stone haven
humble apex
#

I mean honestly move speed just needs to be looked up dagger fighter is a problem because it’s as fast as rogue but way more durable . Classes should have move speed set and then have weapons modify that . So you can balance who is running down who and give strengths to classes that may not be the best straight up duelists will make balancing move speed based on armor a lot easier . As it stands move speed is just the best stat .

stone haven
#

Yea we should remove +add ms and ms bonus rolls from the game entirely

humble apex
#

Maybe even lightfoot boots should go as well, I mean there isn’t much of a point not taking them they are just the best

stiff sparrow
#

Is it possible to bring ofline pve without progression? So we can try our kit practice bosses etc.

placid narwhal
#

Question to all PDR fighter....do you guys have an IQ of an Cave men or why are u just ably to think of two things...Annoy and Kill ....

faint sparrow
placid narwhal
proud nymph
faint sparrow
#

i asked you why
wait why do we have mutalals lmao

stone haven
# faint sparrow why?

Because I can build a 300 ms %60 pdr fighter and gap everyone but wizards and have a fair 1v1 against them

humble apex
proud nymph
hard rock
#

HELLO ANYONE LIKE WARFRAME HERE

faint sparrow
hidden apex
#

can you r3t4rds put the circle back into the game pretty please? i send bitcoin

humble apex
#

I mean I don’t think the circle adds much honestly . In my experience in brs it just adds more randomness that will feel even less fair to new players . I know a lot of hardcores don’t care about new players , but we do need them to keep playing so we can make money and get new content . New player metrics are pretty important .

hidden apex
#

add or i go sleep with korean women

thorn nimbus
proud nymph
thorn nimbus
#

Also why are people so mad about the speed meta the game revolves around positioning just build speed and learn how to move
No matter how much you 'nerf' building speed people will still do it and you cant just remove the stat cause then we will have a PDR meta instead

humble apex
thorn nimbus
# humble apex I mean just standardize movement speed and make boots a choice of stats

'Just make plate fighter the only viable melee class and remove boots from the game for no reason'
Also...they already are a choice of stats thats the damn point
Removing MS from gear made people flock towards that last one thing that gives ms remove lightfoots and people will build adv boots with add ms remove add ms and people will build agi

placid narwhal
#

get PDR fighter out of this game. Most boring setup for lazy people tbh. just RUN and stab. Awesome

thorn nimbus
#

If you dont want a 'speed meta' then play a different game because the fundamental fighting mechanics in this game make SURE ms will always be the most important stat in solo

humble apex
# thorn nimbus Also why are people so mad about the speed meta the game revolves around positio...

I mean you can just read the actual change advice. Move speed is the best stat , I’m not mad about building it it’s just boring to have a clear BIS stat for every class and having it be the same for everyone . Positioning and fighting and balance could be a lot more interesting if speed is tired to class or armor . Then you have trade offs like wearing a fuck ton of armor and having a crossbow could be an actual trade off compared to being forced to just be worse fighter with rogue . If rogue is naturally faster you can actually balance the game around well of course rogue can’t fight as well they are better at positioning. Or of course warlock has better sustain then every one else they are slowest caster .

It’s not just remove light foots dude . It’s rebalancing move speed in its whole . You won’t have people flock to the next fastest boots if the choice is stats not oh I NEED to have speed

thorn nimbus
gaunt saddle
placid narwhal
#

then how does one counter PDR

humble apex
grand yew
#

can you still split skull tokens for ap ?

deep galleon
#

Something I definitely want to see in an upcoming patch:
-Fixed an exploit where players could interact with objects through closed doors. Closed doors now completely interrupt any interaction not associated with that door, even if an object is currently phased through the door.

young shuttle
#

how to counter warlock? except for running away, cause they can always escape with that stupid immortality thing

placid narwhal
grand yew
#

what class are you eclype

deep galleon
#

It simply feels like cheating if a player can just loot another player through a door that's shut. So removing that would resolve many problems. Also would create a problem of Hunting Traps being un-disarmable with door play, but that's a necessary evil.

dense flint
#

Hey guys im new, is there a way to increase spell cost limit over 14?

gaunt saddle
dense flint
#

Is that the yellow cost bar?

dense flint
stone haven
#

Remove add ms and ms bonus from all gear

random cargo
stone haven
random cargo
#

i click on the blue mark in chat window

torn fulcrum
misty axle
#

Still no freakin reverse for gear limit to run hranguish

blazing gorge
#

i like dark and darker 🤘

limber pewter
placid mural
#

guys add an option to play with people that have voice chat on pls

solid dew
#

What do people think is the strongest class at the moment? (imo its Fighter but im curious)

tulip kindle
#

you shouldnt be able to hold the pary in this game

rare shore
#

Pary is not a problem

ornate acorn
#

I like pary

rare shore
#

Just hit anywhere else than the sword or shield 🤷‍♂️😂 It’s not that hard

eternal lily
tulip kindle
deep galleon
# limber pewter Ppl would hate you so much for that last part lol

But it is necessary to remove as much ratting as possible. Plus, let's be real, even if I hate it as a Barb main, I don't think Hunting Traps should be disarmable through closed doors. Maybe if they made it so you can hit it to disarm it, then no one will need to be mad.

eternal lily
thorn nimbus
exotic flax
robust sigil
#

does looting corpse first give ap?

tulip kindle
tulip kindle
eternal lily
tulip kindle
exotic flax
exotic flax
ornate acorn
#

so cool

tulip kindle
formal lynx
# placid narwhal get PDR fighter out of this game. Most boring setup for lazy people tbh. just RU...

I think that there should be a (Tank) PDR aspect to the game. The fighter should be dangerous if you engage head on in melee. The issue with the class, and this game, is the amount of speed they can obtain and the healing they possess. Most games do not give Damage, Protection, Speed, Range, and Healing to one class. Cleric, Barbarian, and Warlock are similar. The built the druid straight out of the gate with all of it, but at least there are moments of vulnerability with their kit.

charred cave
#

hey i cant enter to the game every time i want to open it from steam says invalid platform

exotic flax
#

You way overestimate longswords strength and I think you are a bit peeved at a recent loss you have, go and take a breather

little cedar
tulip kindle
#

hence why mordhau, chivalry, dark souls, literally every melee focused game doesnt allow you to hold parries KEKW

exotic flax
tulip kindle
exotic flax
frail elbow
#

Is the wendigos hoof unobtainable? I have killed closer to 35 wendigos without getting one despite having gotten like 14 claws

reef sleet
#

how about that minecraft combat

subtle heart
#

Does anyone see some super delayed sparks after dodging any mobs attacks

#

Ive seen it happening on some streamers too

tiny jasper
#

whens wipe

frail elbow
vast lichen
#

if they nerf all ranged weapon by 30% dmg they will still be op, range makes the game lame & bad, bring back playtest 3

thorn nimbus
tulip kindle
barren stratus
#

As a brand new druid, should I not shapeshift? going into bear form to kill mobs, man I get my butt handed to me

wet summit
#

hi!! what stat should i look for in my equipment as a cleric? im using knowledge but idk if that's good

severe otter
severe otter
flat goblet
#

what is the most profitable armor piece to craft with rubysilver?

turbid pine
flat goblet
severe otter
novel star
#

save W!lSun !!!!

barren stratus
#

spear is amazing

crystal mauve
#

anyone know what the dog collar is used for?

high basin
#

Wait there’s a dog collar

barren stratus
#

too bad it's not part of my squire package

turbid pine
subtle heart
#

If im slayer fighter. Second weapon - Stiletto dagger. I got armor penetration 5% (static stat) from it, when hit from primary weapon, right?

If so, I don't understand why everyone runs with short swords, cuz cheap?

barren stratus
#

and thwe weapon guy ran out after I died with one 😦

Thanks advice 🙂

subtle heart
hard snow
#

Sword mastery will give bonus to the other weapon even if it's not a sword

subtle heart
jolly jay
#

I recently started playing this game and I am not sure which class to play between ranger and barbarian. Ranger feels fun but I've had a lot of trouble in PVP. I shoot and run if someone is close to me but I just end up running for a long time and end up dying to the person chasing me eventually

subtle heart
jolly jay
#

idk what i prefer more

subtle heart
# jolly jay idk what i prefer more

if ranger. Watch some SrslySoapy stream/videos. He pretty good to kill 3+ ppl solo ranger with a lot traps
or play both
if ftp, make second steam acc

jolly jay
#

i no have money

fleet creek
#

For some reason the devs are really slow to balance the game but really efficient at breaking it. rAnGeRs for the longest time have been broken. but... the devs buff it. easy things to change to. even if you dont want to nerf shotgun for whatever reason. i dont understand how a ranger can shoot at you 5-9 times and then without reloading shoot 3-5 more in quick succession followed by 5 in a shotgun 🤣 . tell me how thats balanced.

woeful cedar
placid narwhal
#

whats this game becoming...getting ONE SHOT by a cleric with 145HP...from a SPELL....

jolly jay
#

would barbarian be a good partner with bard?

barren stratus
#

Centipedes are like mini bosses for me lol

turbid pine
#

yea that's
what they are
a mini-boss

Wraith, Skeleton Champion, Demon Beserkers, Demon Centaurs, Centipede, Wendigos, and Yetis are all mini-bosses. Significantly more tanky than normal mobs

severe otter
subtle heart
jolly jay
#

Maybe ill try more barbarian since i am having so much trouble with ranger

brittle vault
#

anyone else been getting the "tavern is not working restart game" pop up

thorn nimbus
thorn nimbus
native ravine
#

does anyone know if the magical damage on the void blade scales with will or true/add magic damage?

high sapphire
thorn nimbus
native ravine
#

doesnt scale with any of the 3?

past lark
thorn nimbus
native ravine
#

cringe i wanna run a will fighter but crystal sword is eh

thorn nimbus
#

I can wholeheartedly recomend warlock crys sword boc and phantom
For duos and trios

chrome rock
#

How much AP does Ore give?

thorn nimbus
#

wiki will tell u

lean nebula
native ravine
#

isnt rubysilver worth it for the ap?

lean nebula
#

no

native ravine
#

arent they like 140 ap a stack though? if you dont have anything better?

worthy hedge
#

how do i get 40 strength for bear build for druid

chrome rock
#

A single rubysilver ore gives 5 AP, meaning 25 for a full stack

thorn nimbus
languid solstice
#

PLS BUFF CLERIC, they cant ape me and one shoot with one judgemnt while haveing 50 pdr and 30 mdr

echo sparrow
#

Buff Cleric

rotund pawn
trim musk
placid narwhal
#

Voyager rank archieved yay

high sapphire
trim musk
manic ridge
#

lf ppl for a lich run

lusty ibex
#

this game sucks balls

trim musk
thorn nimbus
#

Yup honestly falch is just so nice it feels like a mini zwei with the sweeps

placid narwhal
hollow patio
#

can somebody tell me the best way to farm epic armors for the armourer quest ?

hollow patio
stiff solar
#

what bow is best for weapon mastery fighters rn

thorn nimbus
turbid pine
vapid arch
hollow patio
#

does inferno drop better or same as normal ?

turbid pine
thorn nimbus
#

Honestly inferno seems to drop way better in norms but not better in hr
Also it doesnt have to be chest armor it can be a hood or helmet or whatever @hollow patio

hollow patio
#

thanks guys,
and yeah i know but still i've been farming for 2 days in goblin and only dropped one... @thorn nimbus

thorn nimbus
turbid pine
thorn nimbus
#

Bruh ive hit the pile on inferno so many times and have never seen royal loot not one piece

turbid pine
vapid arch
turbid pine
thorn nimbus
#

I play trios so we usually do a bit of the pile atleast but I personally also prefer rubysilver my team is just somehow illogically prejudiced against mining it

placid narwhal
#

when they gnna add hitboxes?

subtle heart
placid narwhal
#

Spear just went through the enemy...2 times🤷‍♂️

finite island
#

Okay I have to admit I was wrong; bring back the landmine rogue meta. I actually preferred it over this current Wizard/Ranger spam meta.

cinder vault
#

is there a way for me to unlink my blacksmith account from my steam account?

subtle heart
#

Adc for a rich daddy

finite island
hollow patio
#

just dropped 3 in one run of crypt (2 in inferno) so yeah def better rates !

coral mulch
stray acorn
#

How about we get some more bagspace ? Or anything. Hate to kill 3 guys and get 1/3 of their shit out of the dungeon.

hushed tangle
stable nacelle
#

guys how do i whisper someone without using /w (nickname) ?

stray acorn
#

In all honesty we don't need an arena. The game is fun already. Just focus on QoL. Like bag space, maps, new creatures, new gear

finite island
#

I think Arena's just going to be some of the glaring balance flaws on display, hopefully for the better.

nimble drift
#

is it worth it to learn the bosses in goblin cave and farm them for gold in sub25 lobbies?

finite island
#

Fully expecting arena to just be full of buff ball comps and wizard spam, Rogue will probably never be used in Arena as they can't compete without some sneaky plays.

hushed tangle
hollow patio
hushed tangle
finite island
hushed tangle
cursive warren
#

People prefer simplicity innit
That's why I play fighter

hushed tangle
# cursive warren People prefer simplicity innit That's why I play fighter

It has a lot to do with the Steam algorithm too. I got this game recommended to me on Steam because I played Skyrim. I have never played a single extraction looter before. So I think a pretty significant portion of new players come over from Skyrim.. also yeah people like melee fighting games and while I wouldn't consider DaD a fighting game (it's a running/kiting/killing game), it pretends to be one

cursive warren
#

I just wanted to play tarkov with swords lol

visual sonnet
#

can someone recommend me wizard perks for normal duos?

hushed tangle
native olive
#

I reach a rank reward on one class, do all my classes get those rewards as well?

vapid arch
#

no, only cosmetics

lime elk
#

can goblin merchant recover items from someone who died from void?

native olive
tidal bluff
plain peak
#

cant wait tell they nerf wizzy class to stronk atm

astral moss
#

Is it worth playing with randoms in HR?

native olive
#

What key do I hold down to transfer items from a dead body to my inventory in one click?

viral python
#

will be items wipe in the next ranked season?

dawn musk
#

does anyone know skeleton champs skin stats ?

smoky perch
smoky perch
iron peak
#

is there a record for loosing streaks? because I think I may be a record holder..

sick timber
#

is there anyway to get the mp3 files for the bard songs that are in the game? im starting a dnd campaign playing a bard and would like to use the music as part of my character

smoky perch
thorn nimbus
median flint
#

Can we reduce or remove map rotations. like 2min map rotations or less? i know it takes time to fill a lobby but i think if they shortented them maybe it would help with the pace of the que system. 6min wait for goblin caves is brutal!

sand zenith
median flint
spring moat
#

is there any youtuber that has reviewed all the keys and key rooms? I know that you get keys from boss drops and the doors are located in certain modules but have not been able to find anything super recent

slim quartz
#

anybody else having their demigod capes mysteriously unequipped sometimes? no other cosmetics, just the cape skins

bleak totem
#

is blow of corruption a dark magic spell?

median flint
nimble drift
#

is cave troll drops same in sub25, sub125, >125, and HR? like can i get troll pelt from sub25?

vapid arch
#

mystic gem only drops in HR but that's it

dense fulcrum
#

160 hp with a blue prot pot on and i still get 3/4 of my health from one shot from a barb with a bardiche NERF THEM MORE WTF IS THIS STUPID SHIT

onyx valve
#

What is better bringing a green weapon or more rare gear into 124 lobbies?

chrome sun
#

I love that in forgotten castle theres plenty of places for druids to hide. Just hid from whats obv a heavy sweat with his custom skin and blue torches. Bro turned a corner lookin for me but if he looked a little right he would've saw me hiding in the wall lol.

Either that or he felt the "i dont wanna lose my AP points" moment

remote shard
#

Hey is it me but all loot seem to have dropped ? And it goes back up only if we do higher gear score ?

elfin wren
#

Guys a fun cleric build? Im kinda bored, wanna try to learn it, for solo/trio mainly (i guess the builds will be different)

analog oxide
#

Hey all, I'm new in the disc. Wanted to join to see what is happening. I have one main question though. Are the devs listening to the demands of the people?

gray remnant
#

dude, can i even do anything about the rubber banding if im in cali and the best server is virginia for me ._.

unborn gust
#

If you are connecting to US East from Cali, that is a good indicator of why your ping is bad

terse hull
gray remnant
chrome sun
fast geyser
elfin wren
fast geyser
# elfin wren Damn that some chad build

yeah make sure maybe to put some boots on dirty feet is a big no especially in the dungeons you'll never know whats on the floor. I also recommend running no perks or skills due to the fact that using them is an addictions it makes your raw skill worse.. you need to realise you.. youj are the one with the power

tough valve
#

is there a chance they release the game september 06 and we get a steam discount?

twilit dragon
#

TF graysun, why are my silver skull tokens coming out of a dungeon as handled and not looted? All 40 of them...

lunar fable
#

What's the move for <124 lobbies for warlocks? I'm assuming probably not torture mastery, but I haven't really played mine all season

thorn nimbus
thorn nimbus
thorn nimbus
#

Either this or healing build or QE morning star W key locked down build

analog oxide
regal orchid
#

how are there level 5's with Voyager?

twilit dragon
regal orchid
dim quest
#

do the games noticeably feel different towards the end of a wipe typically?

#

past couple play sessions i've just been outskilled so hard by every team we come up against meanwhile a week or two ago we were taking down lobbies. wild.

solid dew
#

Dawg why does everyone say HR is so easy. I keep losing thousands of gold on sets

turbid pine
weary widget
#

Any tips for bard v shotgun ranger? Can't out damage them at range and if they land the shotgun it's an insta kill, looking for advice on how to deal with this build

analog oxide
wispy jasper
#

As a barb, is there a point where I should stop rocking the savage perk?

trail remnant
#

Just saw a warlock jump a rogue that tried to hide in a dark corner the warlock was in first lmao

pearl jungle
wispy jasper
desert orchid
#

Do NA people in random ques talk at all? EU no one has a mic

twilit dragon
pearl jungle
vapid oyster
#

if you're in low gear score then no chest is fine, but you're missing out on a lot of stats not wearing a chest in lobbies with actual gear

native socket
#

when the next patch?

chrome sun
#

No more patches, the game is completely done

loud perch
#

when barb nerf?

chrome sun
#

@thorn nimbus Whats a good strength stat to get druid to in order for animal form to mean jack shit

unborn gust
#

nothing, druids scale like shit

chrome sun
#

feels like it, only ever won once as druid but that was cuz I scared tf outta him and mostly chased / dodged his arrows.

Immediately after before I even realized I killed him someone else came in and clubbed me in the back of the head. For a moment I thought I lost a 1v1... for the millionth time

modest leaf
#

Is a wipe coming up?

turbid pine
violet wedge
#

Who tf at ironmace buffed wizards. They are fucking busted

forest sail
#

anyone else getting an error that is tellign them to restart the client? is this a new thing or just me? it happened several times today mid game and in menu

pearl venture
#

bring back lobbies and remove gear inspection

forest sail
# rancid hinge me

glad its not just me... are you also freezing mid game but still able to walk around then it like teleports you back to a place and you can keep going?

rancid hinge
#

but when I enter the dungeon it's normal until I leave it

forest sail
#

ah okay yea i get it at random times, and i reverified game files.

chrome sun
#

ahhhhh I'm wanderer 1 rank now so closeee to pathfindeer

just 8 days left too hopefully I dont have a bad streak with sweats 😅

#

I really wanna unlock skeleton champion

manic ridge
#

Anyone else have the tavernmaster quest or do you have to kill the lich? to unlock the mummy.

terse hull
#

I really hope trader affinity is shared next wipe, I would be playing so much more than my fighter, cleric and ranger if I didn't have to grind traders up for so many of the other classes still

turbid pine
manic ridge
terse hull
# manic ridge I'm looking for ppl to do it xd

Try the gathering hall on your server, as long as your teammates aren't literally selling, all they need to do is occasionally hit lich, and stay close to whoever gets the PURPLE circle, and avoid whoever has the BLUE circle on them

turbid pine
#

depends on your goals
<24 norms? HR? pvp? bossing?
(but it's probably fighter or bard)

royal summit
#

people keep undercutting the prices of coin bags and the original price has drop by 1k coins

buoyant rapids
#

@royal summit its end of wipe

terse hull
#

I play fighter a lot and do feel like it performs very well in over and pvp, solos, and groups, the bow works great for bosses

Fighter struggles against magic damage, specifically wizards rn, cleric is better for new players imo bc you get your own heals, easy ways to slam undead enemies, and smite/faithfulness is great for pvp, but cleric struggles I a bit more for bosses

chrome sun
#

Solution: Try teaching new players the ropes instead of killing them on sight

forest sail
chrome sun
zenith cypress
#

PETITION TO ADD GEAR SET SALES TO MARKETPLACE SO YOU CAN BUY/SELL FULL SETS OF GEAR RATHER THAN PIECING IT ALL TOGETHER!

balmy minnow
chrome sun
#

If they arent listening yea, but its easy to listen for someone opening doors 2 rooms away, unless its goblin cave

deft zinc
#

quick question i dont have legendary if i deleted my class and created a new one will i keep my stash?

chrome sun
#

Only if its in the shared stash I would assume, for that you need legendary status

#

Just wanna reiterate how bullshit it is enemies can swing through walls but we cannot.

normal skiff
#

does anyone know if more clases are planed in near future?

winter berry
#

bro where to use golden key?

chrome sun
vague flax
#

anyone else just dc mid game?

chrome sun
#

LOL this dude audibly sounded pissed off I didnt have anything on me. I went in with base gear just to practice pvp.

He also didnt like I called him "betty" lol

buoyant sandal
#

who do you say is the easiest boss? Lich?

balmy minnow
#

random trios was the best thing this game ever done did. doubled my playtime.

chrome sun
#

ugh @zinc sparrow stop giving away so much money in #📢community-announcements and put that money towards fixing the rubber banding. $30 game and can't even walk 2 steps half the time. Its not ping, its only select portions of the map

cobalt quail
#

Can the random skill level for random trios be changed to not be included in above gear score 24 lobbies? It should match based on skill at the very least, currently you go into any given normals trios/duos with 300 gear scoreand get people who arent even level 15 nearly every game. Its kind of hard to learn/play the threes meta when your team comes in to loot a normals map and die to basic npcs lmao

cursive warren
hushed tangle
# cursive warren Dark n darker, but I didn't play last wipe of tarkov because loading times and s...

Okay just curious. I like this game because it's unique, but if I'm being honest, it's pretty easily the worst game with PvP that I've ever played in terms of quality/gameplay, so I'm pretty surprised when people have such high opinions of it. It's cool but I'd drop it pretty quickly if a good first person dungeonrcrawler alternatice came out. Maybe if i played games like tarkov i would have lower expectations lol

balmy minnow
humble apex
hushed tangle
high sapphire
chrome sun
#

LOL so I've just been going into <25 gs lobbies to practice pvp and fighting npcs, only going in with stuff from squire.

So I killed a rogue somehow, bled to death. I went back in the very next match, was kiting 10 wolves around, and lead them into THE VERY SAME DUDE. got him killed LMFAO

hushed tangle
# high sapphire i dont get why people be hating on the pvp so much rn lol. ive seen that a lot o...

It's just janky and the dsync is really bad. I've been playing for two months so I don't have a reference point of before, my only reference point is other games with melee combat and this game has really bad melee combat comparatively. Bad hitboxes, bad dsync, really strange design/balance decisons of weapons.. like the 50% move speed slow while swinging. I play barbarian and fighter and the fights are rarely just fights.. it's like bunny hopping and swinging at the hair and hoping you can bait someone into it... that's why spacing is the primary form of skill expression in this game rather than blocking or dodging. The setting of the game is cool but the PvP combat is has a very boring flow win or lose..

tidal lynx
#

quick question for long swords. When you parry do you guys let go of right click when you get a hit and left click or hold right click and click left click

i dont know what i do but sometimes a left click wont come out even though i parried

chrome sun
plucky arrow
#

someone should build a buff duration, magic healing, potion chugger barb and see how it feels to be wolverine

hushed tangle
hushed tangle
fickle flame
hallow salmon
#

There should be a damage testing room you can enter anytime if you're not gonna have dummies in the prep phase

cursive crane
#

how make new maps?

violet wedge
#

Nerf wizard

vapid oyster
#

make wizard great again, restore haste and invis to their former glory

vague oracle
#

Any fighters i can ask some questions to

cosmic swan
cosmic swan
hushed tangle
#

Why does this game have such a massive headshot multiplier, even in plate armor? I don't see any reason a spear thrust through the vitals would be any less deadly than a spear thrust to the head.. if anything, the angles of the skull would help deflect some of the force off. I get like a 120% multiplier but 150% is pretty nutty. Same thing for having limb hits hit for so little... like a fighter in an adventurer tunic took no damage from a double axe swing because he was holding his hands over his head? The axe would cut right through the hands into the skull. And limb shots have a lot of effect at crippling you that this game is too simple to represent, so they may as well make the headshot/limb shot multipliers much less dramatic. 120% damage on headshots and 80% damage on limbs. Doing half damage on hands/feet in insane when it would realistically disarm you and crush/sever the hand/foot.

#

it also gives cheaters even more of and advantage when using headshot trackers

chrome sun
toxic rose
#

anyone know of a gearscore calculator?

fast geyser
vapid oyster
#

are we downplaying getting hit in the head by a sword

severe nacelle
#

any news on console release?

hushed tangle
balmy minnow
deep rose
fast geyser
# deep rose is this a copy pasta

Why does this game have such a massive headshot multiplier, even in plate armor? I don't see any reason a spear thrust through the vitals would be any less deadly than a spear thrust to the head.. if anything, the angles of the skull would help deflect some of the force off. I get like a 120% multiplier but 150% is pretty nutty. Same thing for having limb hits hit for so little... like a fighter in an adventurer tunic took no damage from a double axe swing because he was holding his hands over his head? The axe would cut right through the hands into the skull. And limb shots have a lot of effect at crippling you that this game is too simple to represent, so they may as well make the headshot/limb shot multipliers much less dramatic. 120% damage on headshots and 80% damage on limbs. Doing half damage on hands/feet in insane when it would realistically disarm you and crush/sever the hand/foot.
it also gives cheaters even more of and advantage when using headshot trackers

wise steeple
#

goblin town

hushed tangle
# deep rose uninstall game

good advice the game is dookie. bad dsync sloggy 2005 mechanics and negative IQ headshot/limbshot multipliers. oh and shitheads like you everywhere in the discord 🙂

woven kiln
#

New player here. With a new wipe, everything on the account gets reset? So anything in my stash disappears? Or do I keep that and just my levels/characters/quests reset?

turbid pine
static glade
#

can you pull uniques from the middle of goblin caves?

woven kiln
green tinsel
balmy minnow
#

the tingle is becoming toxic af in gobbo caves trios

versed tusk
#

Anyone got crash while going to abyss or inferno? It's the Tavern not working thing again. Also got error code: 3 for tavern.exe

severe nacelle
#

i love this game, aint enough hours in the day to satisfy my want to play

mild widget
#

Hello comrades, I have a question, I want to play a build focused on the rogue's poison, and I am not sure which attributes are appropriate, I know that to increase the duration of the poison the appropriate attribute is ''Debuff duration bonus'', but What is the attribute that increases the damage of poison? Because in some places they say that it is with ''true or additional magical damage'' and in other places they tell me that it is with ''physical power'', what would be the correct attribute? thank you!

azure musk
waxen wadi
cosmic swan
waxen wadi
mild widget
#

Okay, so the most appropriate thing would be Will, Magical power, true and add magical dmg, and it is not possible to increase the duration of the poison in any way

waxen wadi
cosmic swan
waxen wadi
#

I’m wondering now if curse of weakness could be useful. Curse of weakness would lower the opponent’s debuff duration bonus, making every other curse including additional curse of weaknesses last longer. Although it’s one more thing to cycle, and since it’s percentage based, I don’t see it doing too much against someone who isn’t stacking will.

mild widget
#

really appreciate your answers guys!! HoldTheLine1 HoldTheLine2

lavish shell
#

does anyone know the formula for damage scaling in druid animal form? like say i'm running a 50 str bear build, ignoring +add dmg/+true dmg and stuff how much damage can I expect to do with a right click?

cosmic swan
subtle heart
#

whats viola worth?

glad crown
jagged cape
#

fix your joke of a mob called the spider mummy, the physics just launching people when u get stuck on their head, joke of a dev decision

vast minnow
#

did the devs make player spawns closer to each other in a recent update? cause holy shit dude I keep getting into pvp situations with players at the literal start of the matches these past few days

jagged cape
#

rushers that know spawns but also cheaters and the laggy thing when u look dif ways in the dungeon thats a bug, if your in higher gear lobbys aspect company soon

wary blade
#

NERF WIZARD

balmy minnow
wary blade
balmy minnow
severe otter
#

wizard is overtuned 100%

desert orchid
#

is there gonna be an update today?

long lichen
#

awesome just got 3x stunned by the fucking beetles

severe otter
balmy minnow
#

please give us tingle fix today.

dull sparrow
#

Can I show anyone a clip and get a opinion

covert urchin
#

i said this

covert urchin
pine skiff
#

when is wipe

glass nexus
#

Regular torch makes a sound too though

cursive warren
digital jackal
#

ok am i crazy? did they change unit collision on spiders to somehow be WORSE??

digital jackal
#

today is just not my day bro. ive died to spiders twice

ancient oracle
digital jackal
#

you the goat

hushed tangle
#

just got killed by an ice bolt through a door... love dsync in this shitty ass game lol Edit: teamate got elevator glitch immediately after this LMAO gg Ironmace

earnest lava
#

i think youre lying

forest pilot
#

Is it normal to tell when people are close by the lag I experience lol

earnest lava
forest pilot
#

? discord moment

hushed tangle
buoyant rapids
earnest lava
chilly crest
#

@zinc sparrow have yall not catch on to the absolute dumpster fire solos is because of one shot unkillable bear druid build, add a cool down in-between shapeshifting no point in making the bear slow if they can insta shapeshift across the entire map

hushed tangle
ocean eagle
#

With the new addition of random matchmaking to get random teamates its very common to have my teamate(s) disconnect after they die, and when i ressurect them they are not connected. I need a way to know if my DEAD TEAMATES are DISCONNECT or not. This has to be in the game please.
Currectly in the game if a player is dead, and they disconnect i cannot tell. There is no way to see if dead teamate is in the game or in the lobby. Please replace the dead symbol with a RED DISSCONNECTED symbol.

hushed tangle
chilly crest
#

4 nights in a row i lost bis kit to a druid in blues because they can 1-2shot any class the can close the gap on and hit as a bear. they also happen to be the class with the best infinite never on cool down gap closer

frosty cargo
#

my friends hopped of for the night i was wondering if anybody wanted to hop on?

ocean eagle
hushed tangle
frosty cargo
#

alr thanks im kinda new to the server lol

visual swan
#

@frosty cargo sure man

frosty cargo
#

bettt

viscid socket
#

i keep seeing mixed answers on this does anyone know if organic teaming for pvp in solos is against the rules

errant hamlet
#

Pre-teaming (sniping each other) is

next bane
#

does going in with higher gear score on low rollers give better loot in dungeons or is that only for pvp matching?

thorn nimbus
shut kite
#

anyone know how we are meant to contact tavern masters? Do we just DM them or do we tag them in chat and see if anyone responds or what?

mossy wing
shut kite
#

Ok ty!

silver dagger
icy wasp
#

FIX THE FPS DROP WHEN PEOPLE ARE NEAR!!! anguish anguish anguish

royal summit
#

i went into the dungeon for a quest and came out with 3 bis sets

daring forum
#

fellas, I remember there being another map in the game, in some kind of a ruined castle, but outside, what happened to it?

rustic basalt
delicate mango
#

whats a good combo for duos?

last void
#

Does resourcefulness increase buff duration?

severe otter
#

Patch today?

native sapphire
#

where does druid bodies go when they die while transformed / vanishes

thorn nimbus
#

Under the map ig

thorn nimbus
native sapphire
cunning rune
#

does going to the roundtable using milina skip anything?
i though it was behind margit at first then godrick now i think its past ray lucaria

thorn nimbus
#

What are you even saying

last void
#

@cunning rune this is the dark and darker disc, not elden ring lol

young shuttle
#

fighters are op, change my mind

pulsar glade
#

Hey everyone, quick question on the returning of gear when you extract with some friend's. Is it intended that you cannot give gear to your mates anymore as it comes back to you even if you entered withou having it equipped ?

amber saddle
#

why so many players teaming on goblin cave

lucid tangle
#

@glad thunder any way we could get clarification on the current mm system? In the first patch you guys removed 25-124. Then readded it. Then released a patch stating that the mm system was fixed, but never specified if it was reimplemented and how it was fixed and what the parameters are. Is there still a hard 25-124 bracket? Ive heard that its been removed, ive heard it still exists, and ive heard that it is a soft bracket that will find players above it during long queue times.

peak bane
#

WAIT! DOES SEASON END IN 11 HOURS???

pulsar glade
ancient dagger
peak bane
#

There's a timer below all merchants now that are synced up. Also last season it said that the season ended in 5 days but it really meant the wipe happens in 5 days. Was very missleading and hopefuully they don't do it again.

ancient dagger
#

the timer below the merchants is their daily reset timer, though they reset every 15 minutes as is

peak bane
#

I came home from work to get that last match or two to get to demi-god, only to realize the Seasonal Timer's font color was RED instead of YELLOW. And with 5 days left. They locked people out from getting AP 5 days earlier than it actually said . I was so upset at this.

ancient dagger
#

as a heads up, they typically always tell you the "season timer" and that simply is when the leaderboards end, and wipe is shortly after, as this ends the leaderboard on the 29th but wipes the 6th

frail elbow
broken jacinth
#

@worn frost

lean folio
#

Hi can anyone tell me if smite scales with faithfulness?

pulsar glade
pulsar glade
trail scroll
#

bring back the 5 different crypts map rotation

whole terrace
#

Fighting yet another duo ranger - IM only knows how to make their game as boring as possible. No interactive gameplay, just ranged meta no matter what happens

true junco
#

when is the game wiping?

cyan wing
#

Does higheroller have gear matchmaking

slim tulip
#

Guys a serious question, do you guys think that explosive bottles and lanters fire should damage mobs? because i tested it and it currently doesn't, i have tried multiple times with different mobs and nothing dies to them, they only damage player units. Do you guys think this is a bug or just oversight. any of you has memories of the bottles or oil lanters been able to hurt mobs in the past?

desert orchid
#

ppl out here rly voiping "im friendly" while coming straight to kill us RedSkull

stone haven
desert orchid
sly frost
#

hey guys im a bit mixed up

whats the current GS brackets?

signal helm
#

why are all of my lobbies so poor. I q into hr with 400+gs and all I can find are base gear players

limpid wedge
#

what should i use to level fighter?

slim tulip
whole terrace
drowsy iris
#

How does true magic damage work with curse of pain? Does it essentially apply to the spell twice, or is it split between the two periods of damage?

left zealot
#

starts a patch during deadlines for contests..nice

lucid saffron
#

spell overload has got to be totally dead now lol

lime pine
#

They buffed druid's bear form??? What????

vapid arch
#

druid buffs, its so over...

desert orchid
#

Bear gang rise up, time to 1 tap these wizards harder

lime pine
flat vale
#

just nerf this shitty rat form already

wheat summit
#

wtf is this patch

lucid saffron
#

they buffed the bears left click not right click

maiden patrol
#

guys when the game wipes do charecter levels and challenges wipe too or just inventory?

cunning kestrel
#

have devs officially become druid mains? health AND damage buff when panther druid should be nerfed instead of buffed

prime flare
#

when is downtime usually ?

lime pine
#

What is this invintory restriction suppose to mean, it tries to solve a problem while remove a lot of playstyles

junior beacon
cunning kestrel
gloomy tide
#

these devs have to be trolling atp buffing druid and stoping plastyles withthe inventory restriction 💀

deft zinc
#

if i "rent" a stash space for 1,5k will i rent it for some time or fully purchase it?

fierce crane
junior beacon
mystic fiber
grim pecan
#

"Warlock's Curse of Pain dot damage changed from 10 → 13." very cool to see something no one asked for again

cunning kestrel
fierce crane
#

Stats asked for all of that. You have no idea what you're talking about, but they see that druid player numbers are plummeting while everyone switched to wizard.
Be happy that druid will probably be nerfed at the beginning of next wipe now, so we will have a normal start of a season.

dusky spruce
#

"Wizard's Spell Overload now reduces knowledge by -40% instead of Memory Capacity."

.... so... it makes you dumber?this

junior beacon
lucid tangle
#

Anyone know what the change to hr queue is? The last item on the patch notes. The wording is very confusing.

sinful gull
#

w8 ... is this a druid buff or am I reading this wrong?

little depot
#

cringe lord update buffing spell users, skilless gameplayt

stone haven
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Druid is now best healer, best frontline, best diver, and best rat. Good job IM.

fierce crane
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Yeah, but panther will probably start destroying any non-plate target again.

cunning kestrel
ebon grove
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Wen Wipe?

sinful gull
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bear was so busted before ... wtf

little depot