game-discussion

[lavish apex]

Is anyone here using Linux also getting the tavern is not working error when opening the game?

[terse hull]

1. We arrived tho a death spot on this conversation so we can end it here
2. read my message again
3. you are stupid i did it now but only bc you cant read, and that can be remedied by starting with short novels like the boxcar kids

[shadow bough]

It’s still really good since bard has one flexible slot, but yeah the nerf from 5 to 3 to 2 hits hard

[subtle heart]

basecamp restored LUL

[runic turtle]

Does the autofill actually work? I’m only gonna do it with no gear tbh lol I can’t trust randoms

[coarse void]

yes. i submitted a bug report. havent figured it out yet

[worthy halo]

What about the 50% damage increase with instruments? I see a lot of good bard players use instruments as their weapons

[sweet umbra]

Youd be better off going fighter with sword mastery and slayer with duel wield. Stack dex and agility and just be super fast never get hit and kite everyone with range offhand

[arctic latch]

I WANTED THE BLACK SKELLYYYY!! SKIN ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND I HOPE THEY DONT MAKE IT FLASHY OR KITTEN EARS OR I UNINSTALL

[uneven garden]

@terse hull my man you were repiting yourself so yes we end in a death spot am i wrong? is that bad is that a bad behaviour from my part to say there is no more to talk? Seriously dude chill take teh sunlight you might need it

[halcyon yew]

ITS FREAKING STUPID to matchmake gear 80 with gear 410 in singles... wheres logic

[tall thunder]

Can anyone play using geforce now mine won't stay open

[terse hull]

i want UwU skin next patch ty FerricMallet

[ornate acorn]

Just had a 375 GS in my 140-180 GS lobby. O.o

[mighty aurora]

Thats just the prime DnD gameplay weve come to love…

[lost rain]

@glad thunder These game changed are FUCKING TERRIBLE

[subtle heart]

turn the old patch on this is some garbage!

[tall thunder]

Yeah it matches your GS now with closest gear players that's all that queued so you got them lol

[ancient slate]

I'm not trolling the pre-lobby is still in. Corroborated with two other people and myself.

[pale trench]

just got matched against a 584 and 601 barb and ranger when the highest gear score was 64 in my party

[spiral schooner]

There was never an update more uncooked like this fr!!!!

[rustic scroll]

Get some sunlight nerd

[arctic latch]

PLEASD DONT MAKE FLASHY SKINS PLEASE PLEASE. THIS IS NOT FORNITE OR VALOrANT PLEASE

[amber quest]

How do I recover my spell slots as a cleric?

[uneven garden]

@terse hull since the cleric conversation you just apparently "hate me" you dont like that another guy is not in the same page than you? come on man i was being nice with you and you suddenly called me stupid. I like you dude dont take me too seriouse we are just debatating

[sweet umbra]

Bro chill you’re acting young. Stop slinging insults because there is miss communication. People will miss read things or jump to conclusions. It is essential, when learning how to communicate with people better, that you understand people will do exactly this! Standing on a high ground out of a manipulated stance in order to feel
Superior or better than, based on ego, is just going to make your experience in life more lonely. 🙏🏻

[young sky]

you need to sit down or sit at a campire for faster rate, Press G to sit

[lost rain]

Make a better reply nerd or shall I direct you to the sewers?

[halcyon yew]

its worst matchmaking algo i have ever seen

[vapid oyster]

sit

[spiral schooner]

They need to take down the game for a year after what they did to it... for nothing!

[subtle heart]

no more 225 HR LULL squire gear ratting in HR is back smh

[tall thunder]

Real Chad's use 🎮

[young sky]

what does LULL mean

[ancient totem]

what should I do if the game crashes while selecting a character?

[lavish apex]

Does this game work on Linux? Is this error temporary?

[tall thunder]

This game runs on notepad

[tacit sky]

Let’s go!!!

[coarse void]

I've had no problems with it until this patch

[arctic latch]

i guess lol. gen z slang?

[mighty aurora]

At least theres zero payment, so having higher GS isnt as incentivized to break even, not a good change but better than the 100 gold minimum regardless of how easy it was to spend

[reef herald]

The CIA has admitted to putting microphones in cats see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Kitty
.
but they never said anything about a dog
a dog is the infinetely better animal to do this to
they are putting microphones in dogs
they just aren't telling you

[terse hull]

bro stop @ing me, its kinda weird, you said you didnt want to talk anymore and now you are just pinging me to get some satisfaction from feeling like you "won" an arguemtn about your personal opinions on a videogame

i dont hate you bc i dont know you or care enough abt you to hate you, and i only jokingly called you stupid for not reading my message properly and assumign i called you stupid

log off the discord for 2 hours, go be with your pets and family, smoke a bowl, drink a beer whatever you gotta do to get out of this funk and stop trolling the discord talking about how you want cleric nerfed and ironmace needs to tell you how the queueing system works, gs has only existed as a concept for a couple weeks let em figure it out a bit more

[dawn musk]

bro thats the weirdest shit ive ever heard today

[lean nebula]

true, thats why the vet chips them...no other reason

[halcyon yew]

can someone explain to me matchmaking? Its like every game gear 40 vs 400 :DDDD Like virtualy impossible to win

[tacit sky]

But laugh out loud exist? What would lull even stand for

[uneven garden]

@terse hull you must be a 10 year old kid because after being nice with you you still mad. Get it over my man i thought you were smarter

[tall thunder]

Leave Under Licence Lol

[terse hull]

ok

[runic turtle]

Lul is a twitch emote lmao

[young sky]

ahhh makes sens, I would just speak normal if I wanted to sounds credible though lol

[grim wing]

new matchmaking policy is to prevent people queueing and going in with an empty lobby.. now nomatter what you will be playing with others.. issue is they might be in the tier higher or lower than you... so now theres no guarantee you will be matched in your GS tier (except for sub 24 GS which is always in its own queue)... so really theres only 2 tiers now.. sub24 and >24 gearscore... population isnt high enough to sustain 3 tiers of GS.

[full inlet]

question about the damage changes for bardiche. looks like it's 2-3 weapon damage across quality levels.... does that equate to 2-3 damage per swing differece after the change or does that multiply to bigger damage changes?

[terse hull]

its a change to the base weapon damage, so before scaling off your phys power or other modifiers

[vapid oyster]

lulz is extremely common internet slang, you gotta be geriatric af to have never seen it before lmfao

[cyan cave]

oh ok

[past lark]

IM buff me please

[full inlet]

is there a place I can go to see how the damage is calculated? I know true is added after calculation, but not sure how the multiplies affect the damage

[hard portal]

i thought the pre game lobby was meant to be removed

[mighty aurora]

Definitely shouldve baby stepped with still being able to be in dead lobbies if you cant find anyone with similar gear score, were at the end of a season so getting the occasional 0 person lobby while they improve the system wouldnt hurt🤷‍♂️

[terse hull]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Damage

[halcyon yew]

but thats kind of stupid.. 😄 I would be more grateful to play in half empty dungeon than against 8 times stronger enemy

[full inlet]

thanks

[quartz flame]

Can't you dupe double movespeed boots with the new party taking out of dungeon thing

[past lark]

lulz is about the same time frame as kek ur more than likely just talking to a newgen

[grim wing]

depends on the crowd you are talking to.. some would rather a empty lobby to pve farm.. others would prefer a fully stacked lobby to always get pvp... i'm on the latter side, i'd rather have a fully stacked lobby.. but i also dont want full purples to be fighting full greens.

[glossy pagoda]

I just dont get it, so is it Timmy stomping time for a few weeks, let the streamers they are paying to play the game get abit of content at the cost of the playerbase?

[vapid oyster]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[terse hull]

np

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KCeepA6JEDP6JY1SBlGot_kQyDBdE9hkeuZZeiO1yfE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

this is a google sheets calculator for damage but it slike a year old and might be outdated so take with a massive grain of salt

[keen ember]

New update and we just got a guy in a match that has 3 legendary items in <124 game and went on killing spree

[stuck maple]

why do i get "The connection to the server terminated abnormally. Please restart the client."

[halcyon yew]

so you would rather play against 4 players and 1 full purple than to play against 4 players and no full purple? That kind of doesnt make sense. Its like every game - 1 player slains 4-7 people

[grim wing]

if its skill related.. i have no issue with 1 person murking the whole lobby.

[arctic latch]

I JUST ENTER A GAME AND STILL HAVE THE LOBBY!! LOL AWESOME GAME

[halcyon yew]

Its kind not about skill if one player has strenght 50 and other has 21 😄

[terse hull]

i think the point they were making is that its less skill related if the player lobby wiping is in full frostlight or legendary gear and everyone else is in blues and greens

[ancient slate]

This is why the gear score and basecamp was the better setup. Allowed for more fair fights and if you wanted to chase pvp you knew if you were wasting your time or not looking for teams that didnt exist

[vocal river]

i think everyone missed the line where they said its a work in progress and they'll tweak it

[grim wing]

i think people think im defending the new matchmaking system when somenoe just asked me to explain how the new system works... x.x

[vapid oyster]

bring back blue gear cap lobbies with super high gear drop rates so I can go back to playing solo self found

[subtle heart]

1 step foward 2 steps back

[slate walrus]

i think the matchmaking is a good idea but just needs some work

[ancient slate]

the new system is indistinguishable from merely removing the 124 lobby. My lobbies have people with <100gs to 400

[open cliff]

holly what is unauthorised/debugger program detected error after update it started showing

[terse hull]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ imo it is what it is and if i lose gear to a dude in full legendary idc cuz it might end up back in goblin merchant or i can squire gear zero->hero again anyways but i am pretty jaded on exraction games so idk diff views all around fs

[halcyon yew]

Lol just look at other PVP games, if League of Legends would matchmake me in Gold with Challenger, i would burn that game 😄

[tender swallow]

After the recent patch performance dropped very noticeably

[vocal river]

if lol had 20-30k players it probably would do that though

[tender swallow]

Theres a short freeze on each hit registration

[zenith fiber]

Did they just nerf bunny hopping, you lose speed on landing

[halcyon yew]

still doesnt make any sense, it makes sense only if 90 % of population has 400+ GR

[open cliff]

anyone knows,

[terse hull]

that was def a thing pre patch, i noticed it a bit the other day, so idk if it was just not mentioned in the previous patch, but bhopping still works, the timing can just be a little weird sometimes

or maybe i just blow chunks at bhopping hard to say

[vocal river]

but the matchmaking is done with gear score, if not enough people in the same gear score bracket are searching for a game in the same region it'll have to pull higher or lower gear score players

[drowsy jasper]

IS AUTOFILL NOT WORKING oops caps

[flint charm]

So grinding for demi is now easymode? No losing AP. Nice

[terse hull]

seen it mentioned a few times in this thread so either its just underutilized by the player base and it cant consistently fill those slots, or its borked

if you want to guaruntee thay slot is filled, gathering hall is probably a bit more consistent for now

[grim tide]

Bring the basecamp back permanently. Removing it is a terrible change. Damage practice dummies, socializing before the match, petting the dog, etc. THERE WAS NO REASON TO REMOVE THIS. JUSTICE FOR OTTO THE TAVERN DOG.

[halcyon yew]

well but Im not talking about to matchmake gear 31 only with GR 30-40.. 😄 Im talking about to not to matchmake GR 80 with GR 420 😄

[stuck maple]

The connection to the server terminated abnormally. Please restart the client. HOW FIX?

[languid aurora]

I love this game 10x more after the new update

[vapid oyster]

restart the client

[sleek patio]

hey guys i got an issue playing with nvidia now on cloud gaming, after few seconds i got something that says Tavern is not working

[vocal river]

well yeah but again probably not enough players for the specific time you are searching for the game, it'll always happen with gear score matchmaking

[lone fox]

Rest in peace my beloved bardiche…

[tender swallow]

F... Bhopping

[calm hare]

It's dumb I mean, I can't even say GG to the Barb, it wasn't a fair fight from the start... He almost QUADRUPLED my GS, I had no chance. I don't know if they tried it yet, but maybe a good way to fix it is if you have over 225 GS (the minimum to enter to HR to this day) you can't get into normal games, you HAVE to go to HR. Like I said, I don't know if they tried it already, if they have idk why they removed it, seems logical, but how it is rn is completly BS

[tiny epoch]

How do you report team killers? nvm found it

[warm flower]

Is there level based matchmaking now or can a level 20 person go against a level 365?

[static veldt]

so is zweihander and felling axe meta primary weapons for barb now following the bardiche nerf?

[uneven garden]

@static veldt i need to try it but probably. I loved to use zweiheinder and felling axe so im kind of fine with that

[slate walrus]

i cant play on geforce either. crahses too fast to see the error. we probably just have to wait

[tender swallow]

Why is there such performance drops and freezes?!

[glossy pagoda]

Character level is irrelevant a level 365 can just create a new character

[warm flower]

oh yeah didnt think about that...

[terse hull]

they had a similar system in place before, the result is that f2p players cannot utilize anything beyond rare as they dont have access to HR. and then they feel they are getting cheated out of the full experiecne of the game, which is fair

but its also not super great to have 300gs in the same lobby as people barely over 100

[noble barn]

yes, same for me

[arctic crane]

"Tavern is not working! Please restart the game". Anyone else gets this message? Is there a fix?

[waxen wadi]

didn't they remove pre lobbies? I just had one a second ago?

[vocal rivet]

why the hell cant i update the game?

[noble barn]

Linux or nvidia?

[glossy pagoda]

i think its still there for under 25, i think under 25 is still a thing

[noble barn]

#📢announcements its back temporarily

[terse hull]

added back in bc HR deducts AP on pregame lobby join not dungeon load in

so HR was not dedeucitng AP for queueing into it, meaning if you died you didnt lose any AP, just didnt gain any

[arctic crane]

Yeah, I am on linux

[waxen wadi]

huh.

interesting.

[noble barn]

yeah, same for me, so far i could not find a fix

[terse hull]

it will probably get taken back out again once they resolve that issue, but they did not give an ETA or anything so it could be in 20 mins, or next week

they did say "for a very short time" but like...

[arctic crane]

So is it linux specific? I have amd though, I guess the videocard doesnt matter

[slate walrus]

#the-tavern message for linux maybe

[noble barn]

yeah, doesnt. but nvidia cloud gaming seems to also be impacted

[gray geode]

tavern not found

[calm hare]

No way they removed it bc of that... They took it out bc f2p people felt left out to the people who BOUGHT THE GAME?? Maybe buy the game then so you can enjoy everything the game has to offfer...? Bro I love this game, it has potential, but some of the decisions they make are quite stupid. This bracket system is beyond broken... I don't see the point of playing anything else than HR bc there I know for sure everyone is going to have over 225 gs, in normal rolls is basically a gamble everytime

[agile ether]

just tried automatic team matchmaking and my team mate took an escape at the first possible moment after doing nothing

[noble barn]

that seems to work for me too, thanks for highlighting it

[drowsy spoke]

Experience with the new match making so far:

Game 1
Match with two wizards while playing warlock.
One uses comms, other doesn't.
Get tossed into premade lobby (thought this was removed?)
These two seem to know where they are which leads me to think maybe they know each other. Alright, cool.
I ask them if they want to go to hell. They say yes.
I go through the door and go to hell.
They both go find a blue and leave.
Now I'm down in hell alone.

Game 2
Match with ranger & warlock while playing warlock
Get tossed into premade lobby (thought this was removed?)
both use voice
one jumps into void and dies at 6 minutes
otherwise chill
escaped successfully

[runic turtle]

Pre lobby is back temporarily due to a bug

[slate walrus]

👍

[compact grail]

What's a premade lobby. Arent all lobbies premade?

[terse hull]

i mean tbf the original restrictions were much stricter than what you proposed if im not mistaken.

they were rolled back almost immediately bc people felt like it wasnt fair to label the game as free to play when you could only run squire gear and there were no gear score brackets

if it looked differently now then thats a whole other ballpark, just wanted to add the context of why the queue system isnt currently split that way

[narrow dock]

Did Sub 125 GS lobbies change/ remove?

[arctic crane]

Worked for me too, thanks, borther!

[knotty condor]

Looks like you need 125 gear score for high roller, How'd that happen?

[sleek patio]

Anyone can help me with the "Tavern is not working" when using geforce now? Game just crash

[left zealot]

Aww I thought we could buy EA season 1 rewards with this update 😦

[slate walrus]

yosh

[untold portal]

Did they just change the high roller minimum gear score?

[left zealot]

it's not 225 anymore?

[terse hull]

i think this problem occurs almost every patch on GeForce Now

the geforce machine you are streaming the game from needs to restart the client entirely or do something to actually get the update to work properly, and it take a bit, they might be running the Blacksmith launcher version and its just still downloading theupdate, or maybe the machines steam client needs a restart

you can try to keep closing out and opening it to get a diff machine and maybe youll get one thats working, but otherwise GeForce Now seems to hjust get shafted for a few hours each/many patch(es) 😦

[fervent shadow]

Q staff needs to get changed dude it’s always been bad

[runic turtle]

Yes

[untold portal]

I was able to join with a 8 gear score before but now i need 125

[dawn musk]

HR requires 125 only now

[ancient slate]

F2p is effectively a demo. How many f2p players are spending money that isnt upgrading to legendary? I would bet it's very little. Balancing the game around f2p when f2p is effectively a demo is a bad idea

[noble barn]

it was 225 in HF58

[fervent shadow]

Who ever said to balance for ftp

[covert mango]

I play at ~300gs and I keep landing in timmy lobbies after the patch... Not a single geared player. Just me?
Edit: normal games

[terse hull]

but keepiong the demo version that people upgrade from in a healthy state is important to getting new players, esp ones who might be hesitant to spend $30 USD on the game, and especially for places that dont have regionakl pricing making $30 USD a lot more valuable to them than someone in the states

[ancient slate]

IM did when f2p malded about not being able to bring high rarity gear in

[waxen wadi]

they removed brackets past 25. atleast I think.
they mentioned something about it in the bottom of the patch notes.

[subtle heart]

bruh now its back to 125 gs man this sucks, they keep changing things please just remove gs for HR

[sweet umbra]

Yeah they tried this before and it failed. It’s failing again. They are trying to get more lobbies full so people don’t have random matches that are empty. I’d rather have the empty matches. People who are 178 are seeing 500+. It’s just like before. They are to concerned with high gs players not seeing enough competition because no one was playing 124+! So they are trying to force us to play with the cry baby streamers who are complaining about not enough people to play with. So the people who are cheating live and on stream are crying about no one wanting to play with them. Or because they play to much because it’s their job and they always have a gear advantage and they want to keep having their benefit. But no one can compete with them because they are playing all day and have full unique legends. I have no interest in high gear score play because i want to play at the most fair game play. I like equality of challenge. Not being at an advantage because im shit and need gear or my overwhelming game time in order to gate keep. It’s not fun and killed the game before and will kill it again. I stopped playing when the gear score was not being capped. I came back because of 124! I’ll leave again because once again I’ll be at a gear disadvantage because I have a life outside of gaming. You either lose your 1% who don’t add anything to the game and keep your 50% base who are all coming home to play for 4-6 hours and then going to be and back to work everyday. It’s either or! You can’t have both unless you separate these players into their own Que system. It’s what they did in LoL and it’s the only thing they’ve done that works. Keeping the same players playing against each other because they are no lifers is the best way to keep casual players coming back. You have to protect your player base from the 1% insane people who like to pirate games and prevent others from enjoying them. It literally killed amazons mmo.

[pale tinsel]

@zinc sparrow why did you ”update” MM system to this garbage? Im just curiosssss

[terse hull]

i dont wanna read all of that but i agree with the sentiment of the first couple lines

[sweet umbra]

🤣 facts!

[uneven garden]

trying to play high roller on ice caverns and says finding match for 1:24 minutes amazing

[subtle heart]

bruh now its back to 125 gs man this sucks, they keep changing things please just remove gs for HR \

[drifting hinge]

Wait there are no -25 GS and -24 gs lobbies?

[charred phoenix]

ok ok I was not aware that they took all their models from the unreal market https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/ogre-cyclops

[trim musk]

it's funny cause I put in the work and the money to buy a pretty nice kit and then just get skill and gear diffed by ppl running the meta and it's just so soul sucking

[umbral sail]

Playing like an hour rigth now and Queue works terrible.
Sometimes i can get a team, sometimes i dont, but im sure im facing other teams... Unfair, fix it!

[runic turtle]

125gs is so easy to reach tho

[fervent shadow]

I’m pretty sure gbmm still exists but it’s more fluid than brackets, that’s how they’ve always explained it. It has to be broken or like it needs more data or something right now tho

[trim musk]

I honestly think 124 lobbies were a bad thing, a good 1/4 of the time you'd see people running BIS copperlight stuff for the bracket and just being able to destroy entire lobbies of timmies, it was pure pandemonium

[winged gulch]

Devs really banned a Rollplay feature in a Dungeon and Dragons inspired game? wow. Nice move Ironmace. What is next? ban voice chat users since it would be a problem with the new random matchmaking?.

Player: "Oh no i got killed because my random teammate had proximity chat and revealed my position. Ironmace that's unfair!!!."

Ironmace: "Don't worry, from now on we will ban those people for trolling."

We all knew random matchmaking would be a problem because of team killers but they took the easy way out. I will pray for those who like the rollplay features of this game but it looks bad. Hope it is just a temporal patch while they work in a real karma system.

[stiff oracle]

Anyone else feel like waiting 1 min to get fair matchup instead off 10 seconds where you face 300+ more gearscore than you?

[tall bloom]

Especially when gearscore means everything in PvP yes

[fervent shadow]

What are you talking about

[trim musk]

but I do think that timmies still need a place to fight against other timmies that isn't the 24 bracket.

[runic turtle]

Yea new patch is making timmies suffer lol

[tall bloom]

timmies place is 24 bracket

[terse hull]

i was surprised to see people ocmplaining about queue times before, once everyone was readied up you were instantly put in pregame lobby and could not even back out, and then the pregame lobby would take at most 3 mins (usually far less)

but idk ig that was too long ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[trim musk]

yeah but they find one green weapon and wanna use it, like most people would want to use an upgrade from their worse item, then get slapped into lobbies with dudes running 300+ gs kits, it's the least fun learning curve that loses player retention

[fervent shadow]

First off The first paragraph is unintelligible

Prox voice chat can be toggled and they will get banned if they’re so obviously trolling like that
And they just said in the patch notes you get a matchmaking ban if you get too many karma reports literally the thing you’re asking for

[ancient slate]

No gear lobbies works for other extraction games like tarkov because tarkov has this equalizer called the headshot which DaD lacks. The claim that a skilled player can kill a more geared player rarely happens because skilled players just bring in more gear to futher increase their chances of winning. Also people point to some stupid streamer's budget kit youtube video but if you watch the stream where they took those clips in they are getting shit on 5 out of 6 times then upload the 4 good wins to youtube.

[tall bloom]

@trim musk they can use a green weapon and still be in the 24 bracket

[terse hull]

timmies should be able to use mroe than one piece of found gear and learn how to build stats and what items combo effectively and what items to be looking for what specific rolls on, that doesnt happen as easily in sub25, but i agree that sub25 is the starting point for new players

also what Orby said above about green weapons putting you out of sub25

[trim musk]

You know that I meant finding a plethora of green items (they're literally everywhere) and putting on whatever looks good which would throw you over real fast

[left zealot]

it was 225 before so I guess that changed lol

[tardy sail]

i had 26 gear score and got two shot by a 360 gs ranger

[runic turtle]

And they profit from those 4 good wins cause their kit is dirt cheap. That’s the point

[terse hull]

a green 1 hand primarry is 27 gs

a green 1h secondary is 21 gs

ig they can technically run a short sword and 3 other pieces of poor gear but thats kinda silly
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Gear_Score unless wiki is wrong

[ornate berry]

yeah im not gonna play period if the matchmaking isnt gonna allow a new player to learn against something isnt a full geared 1 tap

[ancient slate]

Your average player cannot play like that though

[tall bloom]

If they have a full kit of green items then they should be fine or if they die it's back to the 24 bracket because they haven't learned enough

[winged gulch]

obviously you don't like roll

[subtle heart]

yeah before the patch, then this patch its no GS but now they changed it to 125 gs for HR which is so dumb man, theyreso annoying , no Gs was coool

[fervent shadow]

What the fuck does roll mean in what context

[solar sage]

Is there a way to transpher your account from blacksmith to steam?

[runic turtle]

Yea ngl this update is bad for noobs lol timmie stomping central

[past lark]

the sub 25 lobbies are kicking my ass man why do people who have 900 hours play there

[waxen wadi]

perhaps rick?

[terse hull]

quests with no risk

[tall bloom]

I don't think it's good to hold their hands because they can't compete in uncommon lobbies, if they can't compete simply stay in the 24 bracket

[trim musk]

Sure, but people don't wanna learn that way necessarily, being punished for using the upgrades their raids provided

[uneven garden]

Do you know guys if they fixed the golden skull bug in high roller?

[winged gulch]

Rollplay

[cyan wing]

Is high roller now effected by the new gear matchmaking

[fervent shadow]

[severe kraken]

is it bugged sometimes?? I had 1226 or somethingWanderer 1 and played one game... I died and now im 872 Wanderer 1 - it shows that this run cost me 200 ap and it costed like 400 xd?

[past lark]

i’m actually having such a bad time lmao

[tall bloom]

@trim musk That's the game though, same stuff happens in EFT when you get a good weapon and want to try it out with no experience, they'll likely lose it and learn from it.

[hoary bluff]

They need to add a different skin with the stats of the nightmare skelly and id buy it instantly

[charred phoenix]

the spider mommy model cost 70$ while cyclop 50$ 💀

[fervent shadow]

They are adding a new tavern next month chill

[trim musk]

And the same issue persists that they will get something nice, try to use it, die incredibly quick, and develop gear fear for items that aren't even that good but they hold dear, which takes a while to remove that fear

[unreal granite]

Can lich's ball kill me outside boss room?

[terse hull]

yea his balls go from the window through the wall

but seriously they can go through walls

[unreal granite]

I ask because in the previous patch it didn't do damage outside the boss room

[tall bloom]

@trim musk That's just the nature of the beast the wway I see it.I hold onto high gear for dear life until I have a kit I'm confident with

[terse hull]

oh you meant the curse circles??

yes they damage outside boss room now and it is intentiona;

[trim musk]

I guess so

[cobalt roost]

Hey, on GeForce now DnD is now not working. After logging in there is a prompt with error "Tavern is not working. Please restart game" and then session ends. Does developers know about this?

[subtle heart]

i'd like to see you go into pre lobby with a viola and watch as the entire lobby tries to team against you

[unreal granite]

No I talk about slow orbs
Black balls
So I can hide from them only using shields and mobs?

[olive vapor]

When is wipe?

[terse hull]

yes, and you will prob still take splash damage if your shield blocxks it

[narrow dock]

CDC recommends before flushing.

[unreal granite]

September

[olive vapor]

online is says aug 28th

[unreal granite]

If u know
Why u ask

[winged gulch]

If i want to kill my teammate because im a bad guy i should be able to. If there are consequences is okay for me. But it should be a RPG logical consequences not a game ban.

[night quarry]

Is it okay to give bad karma reports to players who queue random team without microphones lol

[runic turtle]

Bro asked for wipe date then argued it

[past lark]

i’m losing this gold faster than a river in the great depression

[long warren]

classic keyboard warrior

[terse hull]

then rp that your character got thrown in jail for murder

[grim tide]

I have literally been playing bardcore lute music through proximity chat in every pre-lobby and 9/10 times everyone loves it, remembers me in the dungeon, and joins me on my quest.

[gloomy island]

4/5 times queuing for trios I'm either duo or solo.. nice...

[trim musk]

It's like teamkilling in cs and then getting pissed off for being punished, you weren't really supposed to do it in the first place, that's the entire reason you decided to matchmake with randoms

[winged gulch]

God please i want to lynch someone.

[gritty flume]

First game, duos my friend and I had under 125 gear score, matched with juiced wizard teams in all purples, 370 gear score type. not looking good

[lean crown]

I never understood why they implement stuff like that in the first place tbh

[dark jungle]

Did they fr get rid of the gear score soft cap

[past lark]

god i hope not or i am severely cooked

[trim musk]

could you elaborate

[terse hull]

so that you cant just use your teammate as a one way bullet shield

[runic turtle]

25+ norms is a free for all basically

[severe kraken]

is there there HR 125 and above? how is it?

[uneven garden]

@runic turtle lmao

[dark jungle]

the soft cap 124 gear score is gone

[past lark]

i will never extract again

[winged gulch]

Okay send me to jail if you can catch me but not by Devs admin rights.

[uneven garden]

OKEY hahah im playing on high roller and there is a lobby and i can search people wtf hahaha

[nimble magnet]

Barb perk suggestion. Dual wielding increases your movement speed by ten or 15. Theres no reason horsemans and hatchet should be the same movement speed as a bardiche. Sound like a good fix?

[runic turtle]

Lobby is back due to bug for HR

[terse hull]

they devs are powerful sorcerers who are guarding the dungeon and respect the law, so they case planeshift on you when you teamkill, and planeshift you into prison

now its RP friendly have fun out there

[grim tide]

The pre-match lobbies gave an opportunity for the roleplay-inclined to socialize with other players and create interesting gameplay moments beyond "Tarkov with swords." Meeting in the tavern before going into the dungeon is a staple of dungeons & dragons-esque games. This is a terrible move.

[slate walrus]

its supposed to match with close scores but not guaranteed i guess. in theory you could match make with 30 now and hope you dont get 300

[rose rune]

what is better 1 additional physical damage or +3 physical power ?

[runic turtle]

It does but if there isn’t enough ppl it’ll get whoever basically

[cedar arrow]

is the game crashinfg really often for you too guys ?

[slate walrus]

pre teamer. lobbies lasted like 30 seconds if you were lucky

[nimble magnet]

Socialize in the dungeon nerd

[severe kraken]

Is HR 125 - 240 and 240 and above?

[past lark]

the pre match lobby was there to let me see who was going to kill me

[slim wave]

what all changed wwith matchmaking?

[winged gulch]

Counter Strike left all rollplay behind time ago. But this game has a big rollplay community and a lot of social systems/mechanics.

[sweet umbra]

Yeah some of those people are using cheats to catch you off guard. Which is why it’s difficult to run in high elo. It’s the combination of your lack of game experience from less game time vs. those who “are cheating” plus those with massive game experience equals you never keeping a kit, saving up for nothing. When you can just use a 124 league kit which is maybe 1,200g max and rinse and repeat this multiple times and only have to spend one day a week farming back gold. For a casual player this is very possible

[hard portal]

no way the made the frost wyvern run at you

[lean crown]

surely theres a diff way

[severe kraken]

Is HR 125 - 240 and 240 and above?

[hoary flax]

Did they remove the +120 normals bracket? I’m 250 gs in normals and only see no gear people

[runic turtle]

Yea

[waxen wadi]

physical power is the percentage that your physical damage is multiplied by when hitting something.

high power on a low damage isn't going to help much.

even if you could scale 100% physical power (which you can't btw), it wouldn't help much if you doing 1 damage, as 100% of 1, is just 1, so your damage would be 1 + 1.

if you have a week weapon like a dagger, you want additional and true damage. if you have a strong weapon like a bardiche, you want physical power.

[cobalt sonnet]

i hate crayon eating barbs

[neat geode]

not even a compensation for that long frickin patch? wow nice one blacksmith...

[sweet umbra]

Yeah I agree you add game experience with gear and those who lack experience will always lose. It’s why I totally think gs alone doesn’t always solve things. Sometimes separating experienced players from inexperienced players is a way better solution. You can learn from very good players by watching them and dying to them. But in a loot based game it’s difficult to ever get off the ground. Even in league you could play against the best in the world and never get better unless those best tell you what they are doing. You won’t always consciously pick it up. It’s the base mechanic of being human. You have kernel knowledge but you also at times depending on the person need hand to information experience.

[potent mango]

LOL Oh no you couldnt pway bideo game for a few hours 😠 Me need cwompeswation 😠

[neat geode]

that's what they used to do yes. so go defend some devs who used to care for the community when they fucked up

[potent mango]

Actual baby behavior grow the fuck up baby ass

[neat geode]

xD get the hell out of here you toxic piece of sh 🙂

[waxen wadi]

define compensation exactly.
games undergo patches all the time, including this one. what do you want exactly? money? ingame rewards?

the update to your favorite game should be enough reward as it is.
if it isn't, or if this isn't your favorite game, ask yourself why your waiting in the first place.

you could just do something else instead.

[arctic latch]

lol haahha. maybe he make time after the patch to `play a little bit. maybe hes not unemployed

[potent mango]

same type of people to get mad when mcdonalds takes 5 minutes longer than normal to make their food. Deal with it stop being a Karen

[echo sparrow]

i will take 4 red stones thanks

[grizzled meadow]

Anyone know why Dark and Darker isnt updating on Steam?

[potent mango]

Shit happens so what you couldnt play for a few hours. Get over it. Grow up. Imagine actually being upset over a patch taking longer than normal. Just baby rage from people who arent fully developed adults.

[arctic latch]

or maybe hes a manchild we will never know

[reef palm]

So why the fuck can Warlock still heal of hydra 🤣

[potent mango]

Oh I think we know LOL these people are so fucking annoying. Modern gamers want compensation and their ass licked over everything

[safe bough]

Compensation for waiting for a game to update? Are you high?

[full star]

yeah man this new gear-based matchmaking cannot be working right. I went in with 37 gs and just got killed by a dude with 388 gs lmao

[potent mango]

they arent high they are just man children who never grew up or learned that the world doesnt revolve around them. Its actually fucking embarrassing

you deny them their ass licking and they say "stop defending the devs!!!!" as if calling out baby behavior is defending devs.

[terse hull]

you are still right, but you are falling into a similar category the more you comment on it

[arctic latch]

man dont you know that warlokc do anything. he can wear armor yes a mage wearing armor. he can cast spell from mid range and long range. yes he can transform into demon and use weapons as demon! there is more. we use shield heater the best shield. he can summon hydra and heal from it. he can heal from others. he can become invisible. he can cast the most powerfull magical damage spell in game hellfire! but no hes not broken. SDF SAID IS OK!

[trim musk]

Dude I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't seen a single role player in my time and I doubt I will see any at this rate

[brazen zephyr]

They need to changed the team kill report blocking queue time , cause it not rocket science that salty randos can abuse it. There need to be something to punish or protect from team killers that do it on purpose. But that easily abused system they made ain't it XD

[safe bough]

I mean im pretty pissed I can’t play at all and the game keeps crashing on startup but asking for compensation 😂😂😂 that’s crazy

[terse hull]

p sure hes just trolling abt nonsense he doesnt acvtually believe in

[waxen wadi]

keep in mind he can't do any of these things together, only one at a time.
if you try to do more than one, you will die because all of these tools are built to work against each other, and not synergize at all.

[trim musk]

gotta be

[glad horizon]

<@&988703997378584596> where do I report cheater

[mint marsh]

#in-game-reports

[arctic latch]

still broken. do you know what they do in abyss they pull all the agro and use phanto yes they kill the entire looby like that. but no is not broken

[terse hull]

druid rogue and wizard can all do that but better bc theirs isnt an ability witha cooldown (except rogue but they are faster and can move while actually invisible, and not just intangible)

[winged gulch]

Rollplay is not just say by voice chat that your name is Gandalf The Grey, if you team with a random player to kill a boss and you kill him at the end is also Rollplay.

[cobalt roost]

<@&988703997378584596> and where I can report that GeForce now is not working? Window says "Tavern is not working. Please restart your game"

[waxen wadi]

any class has access to invis pot, which does the same things.
wizard even has a spell for it.
rogue even has a skill for it.
druid can also do the same thing with rat form.
that's not to say it isn't broken though, it's just equally broken, which some would call balance.

[arctic latch]

wizard cant pass through enemies and mobs ! neither roge its not the same

[trim musk]

I want whatever you're smoking man

[noble barn]

#report-a-bug

[ancient slate]

The unfairness of mixed gear and skill in the same game is part of what makes games like these so addictive but it works a lot better in tarkov because high skilled and high geared players are far more killable and even then the tarkov playerbase struggles with it. Like half the tarkov playerbase switched to pve when it came out. Devs are copying the tarkov game design without understanding things that worked for tarkov dont work with this game in its current implementation.

[terse hull]

a valid distinciton, but if they dont deal damage to the mobs the mobs will lose aggro on them when they invis, and then chase the player they dropped the mobs on

[coarse dock]

wait does anyone know the sourspot change for the bardiche (and halberd). Was it changed to be 80 percent of damage instead with bardiche sourspot?

[arctic latch]

the point is they go through anything and take a door just in time to close it. nobody can do that

[terse hull]

druid doesnt even have to bother opening a door, rogue can do it faster, and wizard can invis repeatedly

ill admit that warlock is actually probably one of the better classes to mob dump with, but druid is def still better, and rogue/wizard are pretty close

[arctic latch]

im talking about abyss no normals . just acept dude is broken its too powerfull

[nocturne marsh]

does poison do magic damage for rogue?

[terse hull]

like warlock was really strong and a bit OP like 2 patches ago, but not bc of mob dumping potential, and not bc of demon or platelock, or hydra healing either imo

[willow trench]

finally, no one can inspect my gear and target me

[waxen wadi]

"just accept dude" isn't a valid argument. I would love to debate, but simply telling people you are right isn't the way to get your point across.

[arctic latch]

i said my arguments before. he just not accept them

[subtle heart]

THEY CHANGED IT TO 225 R U KIDDING dude what the hell

[winged gulch]

Your are making your own decisions, not just fighting them because thats what is suppose to be. That is Rollplay.

[empty zealot]

why is bearform still so terribly buggy? animations make no sense and it has a sort of deadspace protecting it

[leaden jetty]

its been 2h now since anyone has earraped me or called me gamer words in the pre lobby, i cant go on without this for much longer

[safe bough]

Literally saw people rping one of my first matches on the game yesterday lol, sadly my mic wasn’t working

[waxen wadi]

that's not how arguments work.
one person says something, the other either agrees or disagrees, they make a counter point.
the other person then agrees or disagrees, and makes a counter point.
it continues like this until someone is proven right or wrong.
you can't just say "I've given you my argument, just accept it as fact bro".

[left ocean]

Is <125 gs lobby gone?

[rich burrow]

Yes, was 100 GS and got put in with full rubysilver demons glee 550 GS robot

[cobalt sonnet]

i was in 100gs norms and everyone has BIS

[subtle heart]

THEY CHANGED IT TO 225 R U KIDDING man ironmace please change it back to no GS or 125 please this 225 is not it @glad thunder

[uneven garden]

high roller still being a minimum of 225? I joined with more everygame and i didnt die but i want to know if someone can answer?

[arctic latch]

why its bad? you like to play HR naked? rat run?

[subtle heart]

no its called ap farming and yes zero to hero is fun

[arctic latch]

you can ap farming with gear its even better. why is that bad i want to know. you can still zero to hero. the good way. start in -25 then -124 and so on

[terse hull]

-124 is not consistent anymore

the queue does not alwasy put you with strictly other 124 and below characters

otherwise i agree, id rather HR have some kinda of GS min, otherwise half the lobby is just squire kits and it devolves into a mostly PvE gamemode

[subtle heart]

-124 bracket does not exist anymore lol

[waxen wadi]

typically, the people who ap farm (myself included), do so with not wanting to pvp, the expectation being that pvp is certain death. why invest in a kit when the chances of finding someone is high.

[distant falcon]

fix cristal ball efects plis , since de last hotfixes , cristal ball afects just deseapears!!!

[past lark]

this change makes me so sad

[arctic latch]

yeah but that is not ok. its high roller u need to pay hihg to win high no the other way. and sorry my english is not the best

[safe bough]

Imagine being able to actually play the game and being mad about it 😂

[finite wave]

hello does Power of Sacrifice stacks ?

[waxen wadi]

to win is to have ap. to get ap you kill mobs and get loot.
until they change pvp, so that killing players gives the most ap, killing players in highroller is a waste of time

[past lark]

yeah man i love getting ran down by bis kits when i forgot i had a green necklace on so true

[terse hull]

i think if you still earned AP but just way less depending on how well you did in the raid until you died this woudl all be a non-issue

likew if you still got you prop interaction, mob kill, player kill AP but just didnt get loot and extract AP it would be fine

people would grind AP, lobbies would be more full, and death wouldnt immediately set you back half a rank

[twilit dragon]

Setting gear cap at 225 , basically making it inaccessible to many at any time, totally made me give up on getting season rewards and high-roller in general. I don't have time to sit here and attempt to grind out long enough to get a gear score high enough and all just fail; while having a full time job, kids, other shit to do as well. Thanks @zinc sparrow

[radiant oyster]

THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THIS GAME ARE MENTAL had a nice 125 HR for like 30 min and gone damn cant make up their minds

[safe bough]

I’d rather have that than what I got rn which is “tavern isn’t working” 24/7 so

[arctic latch]

probably is a waste of time. but wasnt intended like that i guess. so hope they change it. to give more ap to kill and. the entrace fee more expensive

[cloud bridge]

most unhinged change is making the bardiche an axe

[radiant oyster]

yeahh exactly

[distant falcon]

Please Fix cristal ball efects , since de last hotfixes , cristal ball Visual afects just deseapears, those visual affects are cool!!! @zinc sparrow

[terse hull]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1071628538391830719

[ancient slate]

How down bad are you that you cannot afford 225 kits? You can even cheese by buying purple windlass crossbows. Not to mention the gear cost hit was reduced by no more 100g entrance fee. Maybe they call it "High Roller" for a reason

[coarse dock]

me when people cant afford a 1k kit

[finite wave]

how do you make money?

[twilit dragon]

I'm sorry this is channel is for discussion, not for trolly replies of people talking shit to one another. Ignoring. If you wanna troll #the-tavern

[terse hull]

you can spend way less than 1k to get gs for HR tbh if you really wanted to

depending on your merchant levels you could buy 2-5 green/blue weapons and hit the min GS, for under 500

[ancient slate]

It was a legitamate question

[marsh sorrel]

how long has gear score lobbies been gone? just ran all greens and ran into a dude with all gold in norms

[chilly zinc]

It is necessary to make sure that after the death of a random teammate it is clear whether he left the game or not. It’s annoying when you run across the entire map fighting, and in the end he switches off (((

[coarse dock]

after the changes going 24 gs with a luck potion and farming inferno should still be pretty profitable, esp if u can solo gk and warlord

[arctic latch]

they want the minimun risk and the maximun gains that not how it works lol

[safe bough]

Yeah I’ve been asked “how down bad are you” on job applications a few times, very legitimate question 😂

[twilit dragon]

^^ lmfao asking a 'legitimate question' in the form of an insult.

[terse hull]

mining rubysilver is decently profitable too if you dont want to run luck potions and pray for RNG

[thorn nimbus]

barbs really do eat crayons
killed a dude who had an epic adv cloak with 2 health, true phys and 1% pdr
lmao

[full star]

It was this patch today they said they were using an in progress gear score matchmaker. It has been pretty terrible for me also

[subtle heart]

what the erm? erm nope nevver dude ew

[coarse dock]

id argue the upwards of a 4 percent chance (in 24 gs) for skull key completely outweights rubysilver farming

[ancient slate]

If you cannot afford 225 kits you should stay in 24 lobbies until you figure out how to play the game well enough to extract occasionally

[radiant oyster]

🇼 🇪 🇼 🇦 🇳 🇹 1️⃣ 2️⃣ 5️⃣ 🇭 🇷 🇧 🇦 🇨 🇰

[lost rain]

@glad thunder WTF are you doing bro change it back. I was just playing in no gs HR change it back NOW

[full star]

why farm rubysilver when you can just mine copper for similar profit/run

[balmy minnow]

gd non blacksmith players are annoying. go back to open GS. thats when the game is at its best.

[subtle heart]

terrible take , like talking to a wall, its called ap farming, just wanting to pve for season rewards

[coarse dock]

honestly, the game is super forgiving compared to back then when there were no brackets and it was anything goes. Having a bracket for new players to learn is already enough

[thorn nimbus]

and he was just conga lining to my bard teammate while getting hit with fireballs in the back like what wake up

[peak gulch]

copper prices dead now cus of copperlight nerfs

[ancient slate]

Are you entitled to AP rank rewards?

[full star]

good

[slate walrus]

still cant play on geforce now. been waiting 7.5 hours

[marsh sorrel]

ah gotcha, the one time i run with gear ever..

[terse hull]

you would get better loot on average checking crypts/inferno besides mining, but yea copper and even cobalt mining on goblin caves is similar profit

might change a bit tho with new GS brackets since maybe uncommons and rares may not be as useful for minmaxxing 124 since it dfoesnt exist

[thorn nimbus]

copper is still 200 so its still a very profitable thing that cave is 1k gold on avg by itself

[nimble pumice]

whats the point of the exclusive section in shop if you cant by anything there?

[peak gulch]

double bossing and mining gold in normals <24 been the most profitable for me

[twilit dragon]

If you can't figure it out people are ignoring your half thought questions because you're ignoring aspects of their OP, might as well go back to #the-tavern

[balmy minnow]

Seriously. 24 Normals and NOGS everything, was peak dark and darker. and now its just timmies arguing with each other.

[subtle heart]

yep i am, if they never wanted us to have them they would have done these GS changes ages ago, L take bud

[terse hull]

you really said "yes i am entitled and you have an L take buddy" ia m kinda gobsmacked on that

[hazy meteor]

bro 225 gearscore is literally nothing man, you just want the season rewards without playing the game at all

[coarse dock]

i remember running into viola and cinder in separate norms lobby during the playtests, that was peak dark and darker

[spice nymph]

did they change the AP system like they said they would? i dont see it in the patch notes

[balmy minnow]

+all +all +all

[coarse dock]

man u somehow forget about +5 weapon damage on ALL clothing pieces

[blissful zenith]

I miss hitting 500 dmg

[ancient slate]

They want the high reward mode for no risk when High Roller is clearly intended to be high risk high reward and feel they are entitled to the seasonal rewards. That's the L take

[drifting fossil]

whats the best way to get silver skulls???

[balmy minnow]

seriously TIMMIES! PSA! imagine having stats squished by more than half, and than still squabbling over gs!!!

[native aurora]

the gatekeeping in this player base is insane.

[thorn nimbus]

Looting mobs, chests and especially coffers which replace some small chests on maps

[void dove]

Me and a buddy are looking at picking up this game for the first time. What's some good classes for 2 new players to duo as in this game?

[terse hull]

fr if people think 225gs is out of reach for many they dont understand how gs works and how easy to cheese it is

i just pulled out squire gear and bought 300 gold worth of merchant gear and hit 250 gs

[blissful zenith]

@drifting fossil stick to the shadows and wait for other people to gather them for you. A lot of kind souls out there, donating skulls

[thorn nimbus]

As it should be
@void dove fighter and barb maybe cleric

[raw rune]

Is -125 gs norms a thing still or just -25 norms?

[hazy meteor]

exactly, right now that 225 gearscore is the only way to even play high tier lobbies rn. Im going into norms rn with 300 gearscore of bis stuff and all i fight is 40 gearscore timmies

[winged geode]

Anyone experiencing some lower FPS since the patch?

[mighty aurora]

Tbh I and my buddies at this point just want a way to practice High Roller PvE with low reward/risk, I dont care about loot I just wanna get better at HR PvE in bad gear so I can run HR easier

[coarse dock]

as long as ironmace doesnt add in sbmm (and more gs brackets) im fine with whatever

[balmy minnow]

JUST GIB AWENA ALWEADY PWEASE!

[void dove]

Ty ty

[hazy meteor]

for a duo, a frontline like fighter or barb, and a backline like wizard or ranger is perfect

[subtle heart]

if that were true they would make the best skin pathfinder and the worst skins demigod lmao. they want everyone to have the good skin early, L take still

[terse hull]

then buy some staves from alchemist and armor from merchants to get your gs above 225, or run sub25 crypts down to inferno and loot a full kit in an easy lobby

[coarse dock]

man im tired of poor people in my hr lobbies, min gs should be 300

[void dove]

He likes casting spells and is great at dmging teammates with them so wizard just might be for him.

[balmy minnow]

🫃

[ancient slate]

With how easy it is to hit 225gs and the removal of the 100g entrance fee, surviving HR twice you're already made a profit. If you cant handle that you arent ready for High Roller mode

[hazy meteor]

that would be perfect then, wizard is prob the most fun class to mess around with

[balmy minnow]

counterpoint. if you cant handle pvp even though all the +all is long gone and half the +true is gone. PLAY NORMALS.

[trim musk]

wild times

[turbid pine]

What do the Wyvern changes mean exactly?
Is he easier to melee now?

[coarse dock]

personally from what ive experienced for duos, double fighter or fighter barb (or a cleric) is alot better than running a backline since half the time ur backliner will usually be useless once u or the enemies push you

[mighty aurora]

But cheesing the GS shouldnt be the only way to fight HR mobs besides spending 30 minutes to go down inferno, there should be a way to at least fight the hard mobs without building a kit, fucking up HR isnt the answer but the best advice being to bring/buy random stuff to push your GS shouldnt be the best way to practice from a game design perspective

[radiant oyster]

People just want to grind for rank rewards no one gives a fck about your opinion or anything else

[balmy minnow]

quick question. How many people in this chat have seen a gear piece with +all attributes on it????

[hazy meteor]

you can practice the mobs in norms?

[terse hull]

well yea id say the best way it to play normals, and start poking into inferno to practice against nightmare/elite mobs

but if you want into HR you can get in very easily by buying merchant gear

wouldnt be very high roller if there was no risk

[loud moat]

Game rly is balanced off reddit posts and Jaygriffys stream

[coarse dock]

also the ONLY few difficult mobs to fight in this game discounting bosses is the nightmare bat (and maybe nightmare berserker), everything else you can fight no problem without cheesing

[terse hull]

skele axeman goes crazy, demon bat i just strafe and they dive to my side

[queen shuttle]

is there never gonna be a paladin and r we supposed to use a cleric for that or what

[trim musk]

As a part time cleric, in this current meta, you really can't afford to be a caster cleric and still have good pdr AND movespeed without costing a fortune for a high tier kit, and even then you only really run around 40% PDR and 297 MS generally

[ancient slate]

It's very clear the devs do not intend High Roller mode to be "free and easy reward mode". The current barrier to entry is a joke too

[mighty aurora]

I dont wanna fuck with HR to practice nightmare, I just want a way to practice them even if its no reward for some risk🤷‍♂️

[coarse dock]

nightmare axeman i have found infinite success crouching and moving around to the right, ducking ur head on the horizontal cleaves

[subtle heart]

yet the order of rewards and what theyve said contradicts what you're saying. they want people to easily get the best skin aka pathfinder. , demigod would feel much more rewarding instead of getting a useless soul skin and a bad frozen potion skin. demigod is always the worst skin for a reason

[balmy minnow]

oh my god. just fucking click play. it really is that simple.

[mighty aurora]

What a great way to tell this to somebody who wants to learn, gatekeeping and being rude is the best way to expand your playerbase!

[night quarry]

Has anyone tested playing with the frost skeleton? Thoughts?

[terse hull]

inferno on normals is almost entirely nightmare and elite mobs

they dont have goblins, and frost variants, but you can still get the feel of it

[sleek patio]

geflrc

[coarse dock]

i mean 40 pdr is still ok, definitely not the greatest but honestly cleric shouldnt be able to function as both a frontliner and a caster without some heavy investment

[hazy meteor]

bro you already explained it there is nothing to learn, you get gear then go into highroller, you might die and lose it thats it man

[balmy minnow]

the best way to learn pve is to click play. how is giving advice gatekeeping?

[plucky helm]

How does the hr matchmaking work now

[ancient slate]

No it doesnt. Devs added a barrier to entry to High Roller mode because they want a barrier to entry to High Roller mode.

[trim musk]

You don't really get the best of both worlds, kinda gotta commit to either W Key cleric or caster cleric

[mighty aurora]

Oh my god. Just fucking play lmao, is the best advice Ive heard all day, youve really helped me out today🫡

[uneven garden]

Anyone knows if splitting gold skulls still working on high roller?

[balmy minnow]

but thats the thing. i cant help you. a YT video might help. go watch one of those.... than fucking click play.

[sleek patio]

geforce still not fixed with the tavern thingy?

[merry reef]

Is Bard hard to learn?

[terse hull]

its pretty solid advice tbh, only way to get better is to get those hours up, and that does not include staying in lobby

[subtle heart]

they wouldve added this a long time ago, its not because of u should have "high risk for high reward" like ur saying lmao not at all, it was literally just to stop ratting stream snipers, that is literally all. nothing else.

[ancient slate]

The whole point of this game genre is the risk/reward with bringing gear in. People want everything with no risk

[hazy meteor]

what do you not understand?

[radiant oyster]

dude love ironmaces coc

[coarse dock]

w key slow pdr cleric still gets access to good spells (a high tier great helm + radiant cloak should be enough for holy, lesser, res, sanc and prot)

[trim musk]

Ice cavern deeper and Crypts deeper are both littered with elite and nightmare mobs, you can afk near the deeper access points on both maps and wait for them to open

[winged gulch]

why cant i revive an enemy?

[coarse dock]

honestly we should be able to res enemy players that are still in the game spectating so i can kill them again

[trim musk]

I've had very little success with this kind of build but it's probably just under circumstance and current meta, plus I only really play duos

[winged gulch]

is a win win

[sleek patio]

is geforce now fixed now?

[balmy minnow]

coming in here to complain about how you have MORE options than i did to learn the game in a "safe" enviroment isnt gonna get very far. there is nothing we can actually help you with past saying, get those hours up. i surely cant dev a pve wave mode for you, and it doesnt seem the devs want to. @mighty aurora

[terse hull]

give the player being rezd a prompt asking if they want to return to the dark or stay in the light just to prevent them from being force revived and killed if they dont want to but want to spectate

[forest sequoia]

what are the new different gear score lobbies?

[coarse dock]

boring 😦

[wet orchid]

the 7 rondel 70% pdr 310 MS fighters in my lobby after seeing the patch notes:

[terse hull]

me when im brought back from the spirit realm against my will just to get decapitated for the second time in 20 mins

[arctic crane]

Is it not possible now to give something to a friend so it wouldn't return after the dungeon?

[loud moat]

Real shit. Also Wizard

[winged gulch]

you can die on purpose

[balmy minnow]

do the timmies even know that there are still some of us around who learned PVE in open GS +all+true on 5pieces in a TRIOSvDUOSvSOLO dungeon???????

[coarse dock]

people complaining about barb, but the fact no one is complaining about rondel pdr fighter just kinda shows me that most people probably play 124

[trim musk]

[loud moat]

Real men were forged in fire

[hazy meteor]

for real i hit a fighter like that in the head with reckless attack legendary bardiche and he still took 3 more hits and didnt die

[gleaming raven]

did they remove 124 gs lobbies?

[terse hull]

yurp

[coarse dock]

i am surprised at how little rondel fighters i personally run into in hr and 124+ norms

[topaz arch]

Feedback: 124 lobbies were peak for playing with casual friends, some people I know only run those lobbies because it feels fair and probably won't play anymore with the new system

[trim musk]

Worst part is I bought a Echo of Screams literally last night before I went to bed and I wake up to this

[winged gulch]

good times, fck matchmaking limitations

[trim musk]

[tall thunder]

Why are people complaining they being matched with higher gears at way lower gear score if anything that's better as more loot when u kill

[cobalt belfry]

a lot easier yes, they reduced the amount of times he goes up in the air shooting bolts and more ground swipes instead of dashes

[trim musk]

Waiting a while for this

[coarse dock]

NOW HEAR ME OUT, i am definitely not cooking with this suggestion, but what if they nerfed second wind a bit and made it scale off of physical healing?

[turbid pine]

Can the tail whip be dodged in melee range? Crouch or jump?

[cobalt belfry]

i don't dodge it, just stay out of range

[hidden juniper]

new to wizard and alike, whats the best for basic gear? staff, orb or book?

[coarse dock]

book + crystal sword, unless u wanna go bonk wiz

[native isle]

Anyone have ingame photos of the new potion skin

[turbid pine]

Book is for casting
Staff/Crystal Sword is for meleeing mobs

[cobalt belfry]

he does chill for a few seconds now between some attacks allowing for extra hits

[stoic quail]

almost all time qued solo to duos/trios... what the wrong with this system?

[hidden juniper]

ah okay cheers

[terse hull]

i heard you out, but nah with no scaling its still a must run fighter skill, having it scale and heal less ase just makes it less useful fro under 25 and woiuld just make the meta fighter build include more phys healing to make it heal a shitload

basically that change would either result in a substantially worse second wind or a much stronger second wind, and i am willing to admit im probably biased as a fighter main, but i think its fine where its at now, a flat 40% over 12s per campfire is fine imo

[balmy minnow]

PETITION to bring +all back so we can redo the cycle and end back on the good timeline with open brackets after 6 months of squishing stats.

[cinder prairie]

What if you said "I want more ways to play barbarian"

But ironmace said "were just gonna make you bad at the only thing you can do"

[turbid pine]

So basically just
get close to bait an attack
back away regardless of what attack it is
get a hit in, repeat

The only attacks you need to strafe are the leap and projectiles

[coarse dock]

i just want physical healing to be a useful stat for once 😢 (discount beer bards)

[cobalt belfry]

kinda yeah, a bit more difficult said than done 😄

[tall thunder]

I just wanna play the game still can't on GFN

[terse hull]

fair, even just having affect the time it takes to surg and scaling a small amount of bandage healiung would be fine i think

[cinder prairie]

As a beer bard, does the active skill remove the buffs or only the drunk part?

[coarse dock]

wait does it not fucking affect bandages? I know it affects campfires but it for sure doesnt affect bandages?

[terse hull]

i dont think it does lol, but i scould be wrong, ik it didnt used to

[random isle]

anyone can buy the red shards? i click "Buy" and nothing happens

[cinder prairie]

Why isn't it called campfire healing then?

[mighty sky]

Once you hit a certain rank can you drop below it and lose the reward next season?

[solar cave]

so is there any official information about how the matchmaking works? they just silent patched it? I just got in a lobby with two 700 gs people in my 124 kit

[coarse dock]

the drunk effect doesnt get removed im like 99 percent sure

[knotty canopy]

Maybe you should go read the patch notes instead of looking like an idiot

[turbid pine]

124 hard cap is gone
matchmaking is now proximity based (so it'll try to match someone who's say, 120 with someone who's 140)
the longer the queue goes on the more "loose" it'll match people

how long were you in queue for to get matched with 700s??

[patent perch]

I have to say with all the changes, I strongly oppose the 225 gear score minimum requirement. It forces players to load up on everything they have to enter a dungeon, and especially for new players with no guarantee they will get out. I think 125 and above would be sufficent to enter HR.

[coarse dock]

no more poor people, 400 gs minimum

[dawn musk]

anyone have any idea of whats the stats of skeleton champ?

[terse hull]

ig bc it affects rangers field ration and bards jolly time too but thats about it afaik

[knotty canopy]

-3 ms for a measly +1 weapon dmg

[cinder prairie]

THEN WHY WOULD YOU EVER TAKE THAT SKILL?

[turbid pine]

unknown as of right now

[solar cave]

What a rude human. It does not clearly say anything about this in the patch notes actualy. I'm not talking about HR.

[sleek patio]

+1 weapon is kinda huge

[dawn musk]

-3ms isnt xD

[coarse dock]

the drunk effect isnt that bad tbh, i also know there are some settings u can tweak or something along the lines of that to basically remove the drunk effect

[tepid sundial]

“After some testing, we've set the minimum gear cap on the High Roller to 225, as before.” When did they even change it from 225??

[terse hull]

5-6 hours ago

[kindred jewel]

party time removes the drunk effect, jolly time heals you 2 different things

[cinder prairie]

That's dumb. Bandages already feel like shit. You can't use your hands for an amount of time but it's "burst healing". Bandages should heal more anyways imo. Not a lot but like five more would be cool

[solar cave]

I was in queue for 30 seconds or less

[coarse dock]

with barb specifically, using potion chugger and bandages is fucking insane

[tepid sundial]

So they tested for less than half a day? And put a patch out in the middle of it so people couldn’t even play? What a joke

[cinder prairie]

I said. "Active skill" when I originally asked the question. Not "perk" so idk why we'd be talking about the perk

I figured if they were a beer bard they'd bring the skill

[full star]

I was in que for 7 seconds earlier with 42 gs and got matched with a 380 bard as well

[dawn musk]

lol thats fucked

[coarse dock]

i wonder if switching bandages to actual healing and potions to recoverable heals would be a significant impact?

[terse hull]

well it was removed as part of the patch, so ig the gs was out for less than 5-6 hours, but yea they ttested it for a couple hours and reverted it

[cinder prairie]

Yeah if you have to let a potion cook and your alone, yeah bandages are fine but they seem less flexible/useful than potions since they heal the same amount.
My point was that bandages would be better if physical healing applied to them

[merry reef]

Is bard hard to learn?

[finite island]

Not really

[kindred jewel]

unfortuantely not running 10 song on bard is trolling, so people automatically assume jolly time because its a meta perk

[coarse dock]

i would argue bard is the most difficult class to play but simultaneously the most rewarding

[terse hull]

bandages dont heal unrecoverable health

potions do

most mob damage is recoverable, player damage inflicts a lot fo nonrecoverable damage

still its usually 1 potion, then wrapping 2-5 bandages depending on class/build to full heal after a fight unless you were supoer super low

[cinder prairie]

Only if you're an OP player. I'm bad and can't micromanage that shit

[topaz temple]

is there a way to report people for whispers?

[dusk terrace]

anyone else queing for trios with randoms and getting in a in as a solo against trios?

[kindred jewel]

youre literally better off playing slayer fighter in that case, same playstyle just no buffs

[polar talon]

u can disable whispers in option

[coarse dock]

a mid barb/fighter can function in pvp, a mid bard player will get their teeth kicked in alot more

[cinder prairie]

I did switch mains relatively quickly to barb cause I just like hitting shit tbh. Music was an extra step.

[arctic latch]

lol random teams will be creazy

[craggy kiln]

how long frost skeleton in shop for?

[topaz temple]

@polar talon will do, he just said some vile stuff would like to get them banned

[terse hull]

sometimes the whispers are useful tho

for example last night i was trying to whisper to a barb that was waiting for a rope that would never come and i knew the extracts close to him were all also taken

presumably he had whispers off or didnt believe me and died bc he couldnt get to an extract in time

[fervent bronze]

Is there still <24, <125, and 125+ lobbies in norms?

[cinder prairie]

NGL I whip and nae nae on people 🤣😂

[tender swallow]

Guys is there some way to give feedback to devs on various occasions?

[kindred jewel]

no 1-24 and 25+

[elder marsh]

Nope I get into lobbies with 198 GS and I have seen a lot of people with 108, 110, 103 gearscore

[fluid plinth]

so wait they removed the 124 gear score stepping stone lol

[umbral violet]

Anyone know if there are plans for a necromancer class after sorcerer?

[cinder prairie]

Necromancers in og Dungeons and dragons were usually clerics or wizards so idk but there wasn't really a class for it if I recall.

[dusk terrace]

there is a bug and a cheater report system ingame. if you have suggestions for the devs you can do that on there website

[turbid pine]

necromancer is just a subclass of wizard. we dont currently know if IM has any plans for subclassing.
We do know the order of future classes though
Sorcerer -> Monk -> Paladin

[tender swallow]

And how can I login to their website with my steam acc?

[neon ibex]

New player here at 110 gear score last game getting ran down by 500+ people. Much fun

[cinder prairie]

NO WAY WERE GETTING A PALADIN. PLEASE SO WE FOCUS CLERICS MORE.ON CASTING.

[arctic crane]

How do you give items to your friends now so they can keep them?

[dusk terrace]

you dont have to for that

[craggy kiln]

no way theyre bringing back old skins man defeats purpose to evewr grind for them

[turbid pine]

it won't be for like....a year. but it's coming evenutally yeah

[kindred jewel]

only quest skins, cannot get hr rewards

[pale granite]

fr

[dusk terrace]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

thats the link to the suggestion page

[craggy kiln]

no the frost skeleton in ths hop now?

[worn slate]

I've just got a message from a guy in /w that confirmed he was pre-teaming and still Ironmace won't do shit about it. BAN ALL TEAMING IN SOLOS, this will save the community alot of distress and you guys a lot of work

[tender swallow]

Oh I know this site. The Pit of Desperation

[fluid plinth]

i dont think you can with voice chat and whisper being a thing, people team in every game

[cinder prairie]

I mean you can already make paladin and make a cleric a cleric. Move divine smite (on hit skill) and other tank cleric perks over to paladin. Lower cast time. Raise base HP. Something like that. I'm kind of simplifying it but the point is that it's there.

[kindred jewel]

thats a quest reward lol

[peak crypt]

It is in the shop now. (And so is goblin coin toss)

[craggy kiln]

would it be worth to buy?

[turbid pine]

Races have gameplay impacting stats. They can't be exclusive because they aren't just cosmetic.
If you want an exclusive to show off, there's still plenty of acutal cosmetics. Like the demi-god cape, frozen potions, elven campfire, etc.

[fervent anvil]

Elven campfire ass cause its made by knife ears

[dusk terrace]

they actually used one of my suggestions there xD to my knowledge i never read it otherwise. so they at least seem to follow that site xD

[kindred jewel]

read the original question

[craggy kiln]

would yall say the shop skins are gonna stay forever or limited time ?

[thin bloom]

is their a set Wipe Date?

[long warren]

I agree they should add the 2 other skins to the shop so we can all be at the same pvp lvl

[eager blaze]

if i buy legendary item from skele vendor does it have a chance to be a unique?

[craggy kiln]

ironmace if u can confirm the shop skins is limited time only ill buy the skins rn

[static snow]

i left with my buddies gear because we had to rez and leave quickly. He didn't get his stuff back and it dissapeared from my inventory, can anyone explain the new mechanics?

[thorn nimbus]

I dont think so
@thin bloom sept 6

[turbid pine]

It should be in your friend's Goblin Merchant recovery service

[last hollow]

Hello. I realise that i dont have anymore the elite skeleton skin. I bought founders edition. Happened same to any of u?

[onyx fractal]

As a Druid I think the tree summons should count for my teams kills, I don’t like waiting 1 min to loot bc my tree summon got the last hit

[rich burrow]

This game is so fun now, I kill 2-3 people who are my gearscore and carry all of our kits to some neckbear with 5k hours and 600 GS. SO FUN....

[turbid pine]

Founders edition is regular skeleton (white color)
elite skeleton (red color) has always been an earnable cosmetic, with blue shards. You do not get it as part of Founders edition

[full star]

yeah they really did not cook with the gear matching system

[calm sandal]

yo does the matchmaking not pair u with teammates atm?

[thorn nimbus]

I dont think it matches gear I met full green gears against my blue/epic 400gs kit and I met full legendary kits using the same kit
I had the best kit in my party

[calm sandal]

I've had it Q me in solo 3 times in a row, no teammates

[thorn nimbus]

You have to uncheck a box in the menu

[wet orchid]

hey fighter mains, what's the best counter to rondel fighter? I can't stand playing against 3-5 every single solo lobby

[oak plinth]

pavise shield crash

[sly leaf]

exclusive part or the shop that you can't buy anything. What's the point of it? To give people a case of FOMO?

[umbral violet]

Guys Im 600 away from pathfinder to get skeletal champion but why do we have to do FOMO? Idc if other players get skeletal champion just leave these races IN THE STORE!!! WHY IS NIGHTMARE SKELETON LOCKED?

[hushed tangle]

Run for extract

[sand zenith]

What’s the point in grinding except for exclusive rewards, this has been a thing for two decades across gaming. It makes your player base feel rewarded for playing during certain periods.

[versed eagle]

@glad thunder what level is ur druid since ur maining it this season bro ?

[hushed tangle]

You think he actually plays the game? Patch notes suggest otherwise

[tender rock]

Would be cool if skeleton champion got the nightmare skeleton stats

[umbral violet]

Agreed! I hope skeletal champion is allowed to have a helmet

[random isle]

i think he just gonna have a ton of armor rating but can't wear anything

[tender rock]

Just like the frost skeleton wears a hat with no headgear but can still equip a helmet. It'd be nice if Skelly champ had his spiked helmet appearance when nothing is equipped.

[umbral violet]

These were my thoughts exactly.

[mystic sorrel]

What determines whether you get the low or high weapon damage roll on squire? Does anyone know? I've had low end damage common grade weapons for ages

[warm tendon]

Probably quests?

[thorn nimbus]

Rng im pretty sure

[mystic sorrel]

No I have every quest complete. I'm talking within the common grade weapons for example rapier can be 22 or 23, for a long time I've been on 22 wep dmg not 23. Like multiple days

[warm tendon]

Not sure then

[charred shale]

does the warlord keep its buffs from absorbing mobs even after resetting the fight? At the very least warlord seems to be keeping it's movement speed buff even after resetting

[lean lance]

que up HR for trio, end up being solo. Loose gear, thanks

[thorn nimbus]

Did u uncheck the box that prevents players from being matched with you ?

[lean lance]

no, its just not working properly

[wooden coral]

If you didn't uncheck it, then it's working properly lmao

[terse hull]

prob is working bc people have reported getting in lobbies with randoms, prob just not a ton of people solo queuing into trios HR looking for randoms rn

[thorn nimbus]

If you DIDNT then its working properly

[warm tendon]

How do we feel about the Cyclops rockfall changes? Personally I'm not liking them.

[lean lance]

i did uncheck, but why you allow me to go solo? makes no sense, just keep looking to fill the team

[wooden coral]

Jesus

[random gate]

does random matchmaking not work on high roller?

[turbid pine]

Like, you dislike the implentation or the concept itself?
I see zero reason how it's a bad idea on paper
but I haven't tried the change yet myself

[random gate]

it worked for me to find players on normals but me and my homie just tried to fill on hr and went into trios as a duo

[amber quest]

How do I pvp as a warlock I'm new and picked it as my first class. People just charge me and kill me in 2-3 hits.

[vapid oyster]

you curse them and run in circles till they die

[amber quest]

They seem to be faster than me, by the time I get one curse off they are in my face.

[wooden coral]

Fun fact, you can do that on any class if you have VoIP on.

[turbid pine]

MS is everything in PvP
Get 290-300 MS even if it means being literally naked

[warm tendon]

You need to look at the floor to dodge it

[amber quest]

What is MS? Jesus this slow mode is annoying.

[vapid oyster]

don't use orb, use a book, wear lightfoot boots, ms is movespeed

[wooden coral]

move speed. Just edit your old comment and @ the person you're discussing stuff with.

[thorn nimbus]

movespeed
honestly play barb or fighter first and THEN do warlock the class is weak rn and pretty bad for a beginner

[turbid pine]

movement speed
spellbook, vestments, loose trousers, lightfoot boots will keep you fast

[lean lance]

hr full of cheaters and sweats. I really not enjoying this. Being placed in solo or duo against 3

[hushed tangle]

Am I the only one who thinks the skeleton champion skin is stupid? There are already several skeleton skins. They are just recycling assets already in the game into ranked rewards and it seems pretty lazy. I'd rather get a weapon skin than yet another dungeon monster costume.

[tender rock]

Check the warlock chat channel there is no slow mode there so it's easier to freely talk

[wooden coral]

Bruh stop queueing then if it's actually broken lmao.

[sleek patio]

anyone know when d&d will be up on geforce?

[turbid pine]

I would't play anything but 0-24 right now while they fix the matchmaking
it def came out unfinished lol

[fervent anvil]

17 years

[grim wing]

so +/- the release window for star citizen beta 1.0. got it

[deft bolt]

how is it unfinished?

[grim wing]

its not that its unfinished.. its that they completely broke the balance.. so now there really is only 2 tiers.. <24 tier and >24 tier.. so people are making sets in pure greens and getting matched vs full teams of orange 500+gs sweats

[deft bolt]

id rather get maybe a 4th map and damn thats crazy ide got full game so ird i barely started playing this game this is my 3rd day as a barb and ive heard they did some removing but i dont think they really nerfed barb to much they took 1 damage away on battle axe and made their speeds from 35-30 so overall i think they mostly buffed

[sleek patio]

just go naked then no?

[forest sequoia]

just got cooked by 500 gearscore warlock while wearing three greens

[grim wing]

thbats what many are doing.. just sticking to <24 lobbies til they change the matchmaking requirements again. I dont mind getting smoked by people that have better skill than me.. i dont want to have no chance vs someone dropping 3k+ on a kit to fight newbies in unranked/lowroller

[hushed tangle]

Only good weapon on barbarian is bardiche and they nerfed it the hardest. They buffed felling axe which is only good for killing noobs. Only bad players were dying to barbarians so they are going to continue dying to barbarians. The nerfs just made it so that barbarians still suck against good players. Won't change anything about them whacking trash players

[loud moat]

All these meme balance changes when swapping crossbows, bard, and wizard exist are thry even trying anymore

[tawny coral]

Did the cyclops double rockfall bug get fixed?

[torpid hull]

is anyone else not getting teammates matched with them?

[rotund jewel]

game not running on linux, anticheat busted

[austere aspen]

Yo, how does the new match making system works?, do the 125 and below still up or, how has it changed?

[turbid pine]

0-24 and 25+
when queuing 25+, it tries to match you with similar GS
it currently seems to be pretty terrible at it though. 20-30 second queue times are giving 200-300+ GS disparities.
Personally I would only play >24 until it receives more polish.

[austere aspen]

i see, thanks @turbid pine

[mortal frigate]

i wait 10 seconds in the map with 270 GS and get only guys with whites and greens '-'

[errant patio]

My opinion isn't set in stone but it kind of feels refreshing that they remove 124gs for now, I can just recycle my ~200gs green and blue kits every run without worrying about minmaxing to the breakpoint. And I think someone with a 500 gear score stands to lose a lot more against me than I do to them in norms.

[torn pelican]

If I need help with learning stuff where do I go?

[errant patio]

The library I think

[rotund jewel]

i just wish it was more obvious whether someone has a purple sword or a grey sword

like it would be fine to go up against 500gs enemies if i could just run away and hide upon recognizing that they're juiced

[terse hull]

yea i agree, but tbh i was finding a really nice groove in 124 for questing with a solid fighter build that i was averaging a 4+ KD ratio in norms with

[austere aspen]

@torn pelican wikipedia or youtube works also

[turbid pine]

You can ask general questions here
but you'll often be better off asking in the class specific channels (no slowdown timer there)

[torn pelican]

I'm really better at being taught rather listening because of my adhd, I'm just confused how stash/selling stuff works

Also yes LquidMerc I assumed, I just feel dumb because the system is so much different but similar at the same time lol, I'm so used to Tarkov I'm like. why do i have 30 slots of coins am I doing something wrong and then its like 1500 for a new stash and im like. can i even get to that amount

[vocal glacier]

How about y’all nurf a broken ass class like wizard instead of barb

[vague quest]

If I trade an item does it lose the "looted" stat?

[high fern]

i agree, if your anything without range you get pood on by wizard

[errant patio]

Give the Cleric a sling so I can throw rocks at the wiz :D

[terse hull]

me when my axe cant reach the wizard 25ft away and idk how to improve spacing, positioning, or clear rooms im in

[bright crystal]

What is your favorite map y'all?! :)

[errant patio]

Crypt easily

[turbid pine]

You can earn money in three main ways

1. Find treasure in raid to sell it to The Collector
2. Find valuable gear/items to sell on The Marketplace
3. Complete quests for other NPCs

The stash is comprised of 1 shared stash, and 1 per-character stash. You can buy more per-character stashes for money. (it's like 3k gold for the first one, then 5k, and so on)

[modest wind]

When's the Spiderman™ update?

[queen shuttle]

is there a way to set like a default loadout thing, cuz i just want things to be laid out differently

[vague quest]

Murder people and take their gear, sell their gear

[terse hull]

yes through squire

[bright crystal]

You can set base gear at Squire merchant

[queen shuttle]

oh ty

[errant patio]

I would't mind having multiple saved base kits that also change my spells/perks/skills, or like an auto gear buy from merchants if I have the gold based on my saved preset.

Right now it's just gear from Squire but you gotta change the perks manually

[turbid pine]

Making more money mostly comes down to

• Looting enough to leave with a full inventory
• Doing difficult content for higher value loot

[peak gulch]

which merchant has the campfire reward

[errant patio]

It's just slightly tedious buying bandies and pots every pregame... the Woodsman takes campfires oh reward

[terse hull]

collector

[peak gulch]

ty

[terse hull]

if you arent kinda far along his quest line by now its gonna be a rough grind
goblin merchant (goblin dance emote)and tavern master(mummy skin) are both easier imo

[turbid pine]

Your regular base kit run
no unlocking Lions/Golden chests
no going down to Layer 2
no HR
no bossing (or minibosses)
you can expect to make about 100-300 gold from Collector treasure

[sweet umbra]

WHOOoooo frost skeleton skin has Garbage stats!!!!
With -3 mvment you need +2 weapon damage! This is insane defect!!!

[runic mortar]

what is that about gear cap in high roller so i cant go naked to high roller or is a lobby thing?

[umbral violet]

I finally hit pathfinder I can stop playing HR.. thank you to everyone who spared my life (EVERY ROGUE KILLED ME ON SIGHT!!!). I earned my skeletal champion for next season. To the devs: Please do not timelock FOMO these cosmetics. Bring back Nightmare skeleton. Cheers.

[sonic blade]

I love that they are super vague with the way that the new matchmaking works and they still refuse to institute NO skill based matchmaking system so they Claim that the new gear score matchmaking is designed to help close the gaps but in 2 raids ive gone in with base gear and one green weapon and surg kit ~60 gear score and im up against kids with 250 plus gear score... does the dev team actually fix anything or do they just enjoy watching their player base leave while they continue to release updates that don't fix the skill disparity and deter newer players from staying with the game

[topaz arch]

pre-game lobby still happening? isn't that supposed to be gone?

[elfin hemlock]

Why don't we have access to buy every race with blue shards. I have this since the beginning but I work and can't no-life every season. Sadge

[timid hare]

you guys kinda added p2w with the archer skleton skin
no?

[civic juniper]

👴🦻

[sonic blade]

every skin that adds base stats for purchase can be argued to be p2w... dogwater moneygrab

[timid hare]

? thise one require red stones, unlike the others?

[serene mesa]

You didn’t die to someone because they had +1 str and -1 Agi dude

[elder orbit]

what exactly is the new match making system?

[vast delta]

It’s mostly pay to lose

[forest relic]

lizard under 24gs ?

[charred quarry]

buy the skin and win everyt game

[tender rock]

+10% AR is pretty strong

[sonic blade]

Then why is the barb meta to run lizard skin with a free helmet in -25 lobbys to timmy stomp.. SMH

[timid hare]

every single one of you whos gonna say pay wallking skins that give stats is not p2w is simply deusional, SKIN WITH stats is the ot same as an emote

[azure notch]

Lizard is free tho

[rare venture]

Lizard bought with in game currency.

[vast delta]

Oh hell nah timelock them

[elfin hemlock]

I feel like they make the same money but adding both purchase options to the skins and emotes

[terse hull]

bc specifically the liz and lycan skins are strong enough for certain classes esp ones that would rather not wear a helm anyways in low gs, that they are specifically decent

[serene mesa]

Ok it is BS that some of the playerbase has a +10 AR skin and some don’t but I hope they don’t put nughtmare skele on the shop I hope they just make a different skin with the same stats because

[sonic blade]

for timmy stomping by players that know how to use it for an advantage in ... LOW gear score lobbies with timmies

[tender rock]

I'm hoping skeleton champ gets the nightmare skeleton stats or they just make one with the same stats and say "this one is available for the same benefit, you just have a different cosmetic" which I feel is 100% fine

[turbid pine]

If you want to show off your previous rank, there's...literally any of the other ranked rewards from that season
For how easy it is, hitting pathfinder really shouldn't be more than a convenience of not having to buy the skin later.

[timid hare]

yo its kinda digusting ngl, HAVING TO PAY 20$ To have +1wep dmg which is insane btw

[terse hull]

you could buy them for free, and tbh they arent that strong, def no op, just slightlymore optimal than wearing a poor quality helm with no rolls

you can kill them almost as easily as any opther player wearing a helm, they just gain a near negligible amount of ms depending on what they would normally run in that build

[civic juniper]

[warped jay]

I kinda wish the race skins were just skins with no stats and should just be available for blue shards too

[river prism]

what songs should i be using as a newbie bard?

[noble lynx]

man.
i love this game.
but i absolutely despise PVP.
people’re runnin’ around just bein’ awful with obnoxious meta garbage, and now that people can’t cheese the matchmaking to get empty lobbies to avoid PVP, i’m desperately hoping they add a PVE only option.

[elfin hemlock]

about 130 euro total for the full cosmetics/emotes we can't buy with blue. (keep in mind I have some already/plus bought some)

[warm vault]

itll never happen

[timid hare]

yo lets vote guys hello, do you think putting SKINS WITH STATS behing a pay wall is P2w,

[sonic blade]

Blame the devs for designing the worst matchmaking system possible and statistically the least favored matchmaking system in comparison to skill based matchmaking

[thorn nimbus]

play a diff game

[median flint]

games dead

[terse hull]

like you could maybe make some kind of mechanic to track "pacifism" and try to add that as a matchmaking criteria, but it would cripple the lobby count if people could go quest in pve only dungeons (and it would trivialize so many quests beyond belief)

[noble lynx]

thank you for your input that offers nothing to the original message.

[drifting hinge]

Why is warlock so shit

[civic juniper]

Quit

[true bridge]

how does the gear score matchmaking work?

[thorn nimbus]

no cause they either suck or have no actual impact on the gameplay

[warm vault]

dont worry the devs will cripple the lobby count on their own

[warped jay]

They're so minimal it would be better to not have the stats attached and just make them visual

[noble lynx]

warlock seems to be actually kind of okay if you can abuse hellfire and curse healing. i’ve seen that work a bit TOO well.

[fluid zephyr]

IRONSHIELD One or more game files are abnormal! Please update or repair your game files: \dungeoncrawler\binaries\win64\dungeoncrawler.exe
wtf, game work only with vpn

[noble lynx]

now this i actually like.

[brazen palm]

so the gearscore system is broken/not working, i run 110 gs and wizards with 400gs are hunting me in normals

[vague quest]

Wtf is the drop chance on the Rusty Broken Sword, I've killing like 20 longsword dudes and not a single one has dropped it.

[fervent anvil]

Yeha they removed 124

[static kelp]

What's the changes to matchmaking or where can I find them?\

[sonic blade]

It's only a matter of time before the player base gives up on this game because the developers refuse to implement skill based matchmaking and instead continue to produce dogwater updates that further enforce movespeed metas and rat like playstyles that favor players with heavy hours already invested so they can timmy stomp and meta run in every gear based lobby of the game

[warm vault]

I filled a Trios as a solo with 188gs and it matched me with naked pickpocket rogues.

[whole inlet]

What are some duo comps y’all reccomend?

[queen shuttle]

how do i invite a person to friends that i just played with

[civic juniper]

15%

[fervent anvil]

Bonk wiz and ranger

[brazen palm]

but weren't they supposed to balance with gearscore matchmaking?

[noble lynx]

i enjoyed just having fun with a cleric/warlock combo. he spams hellfire, hydra, and curses, i just put his health back to full and do a little bit of damage to skeletons and wraiths in the process.

[fervent anvil]

Its now meant to be that you are put with others that are in similar GS. Im on holiday so i aint tested it yet but people are saying its broken

[sonic blade]

#BADDEVTEAM

[queen shuttle]

how do i invite a person to friends that i just played with

[sweet umbra]

Not having a gear score hard cap ruins the game

[tepid falcon]

can anyone tell me if the new matchmaking gs system is good?

[noble lynx]

from what i’ve seen, mediocre at best.

[civic juniper]

[fervent anvil]

Its still an early version of it tho

[timid hare]

ur clue less its crazy lol

[teal snow]

Guys, is it possible to end up solo when you que for trios?

[thorn nimbus]

-1+1 is irrelevant on virtually any class and lizard/lycan are awful unless you are in -25

[noble lynx]

i’m hopin’ it gets to a point one day where i can match with people who don’t wanna rip my bones in half with their bare hands the millisecond they hear me walking.

[fervent anvil]

Nah ill make sure to find u and rip ur bones in half every game

[noble lynx]

evil, i say. naught but violence with thee.

[fervent anvil]

I bonk everyone i meet. I even have counters for my normal counters so im unstoppable

[brazen palm]

yeah the gearscore difference is literally not in currently, otherwise in solo normals i don't think someone would have over 300% of my gearscore

[tardy pelican]

Hoping for friendlies in a hardcore survival pvpve game is crazy work LOL

[umbral violet]

Same I hope for this too

[sonic blade]

It hurts me to say it and I truly want nothing but this game to become better and playable for all people but until this idea that the game can prosper without a skill based matchmaking goes away this game will continue to lose player base and deter new players

[terse hull]

i feel like its just 224 instead now, with occasional uncapped lobbies if it doesnt find enough people fast enough

[sharp sparrow]

are the skins in the shop the same price?

[trim musk]

they are very minute differences

[turbid pine]

some are 4 blue shards, some are 5 blue shards, and some are red shard exclusive.

[soft garden]

Does anyone know what it means when the game says the dark grows darker?

[brisk hare]

do you guys think barb needs a nerfd

[noble lynx]

the big thing is, i just don’t wanna experience every single person in a dungeon deciding they’re gonna run up and beat the hell out of me the literal second they can even smell me in an area. there’s always gonna be those “let’s turn these guys to mush” people, but the fact that there’s just never a single person in a lobby who can make it twelve steps without their bloodlust acting up is absurd.

[civic juniper]

Thank God we have mclarddongus to voice community opinions for he knows how to make games successful, it all starts with wailing in a discord, outside of the actual suggestion channel. You are doing God's work son, godspeed.

[turbid pine]

It means "the match is over" (all players have died/extracted)
It's just saying it in a dramatic way that matches the title of the game

[maiden crypt]

the new matchmaking sucks

[pastel stirrup]

The new matchmaking don't count the gear?

[lean hemlock]

where i should report player after game ?

[glad topaz]

barb did not need a nerf

[maiden crypt]

I play on oce and have had it cancel on me 3 times and i lost gear and ap

[pastel stirrup]

Bad luck

[glad topaz]

warlock needed a nerf, barb needs a buff and bring back 124. problem solved

[maiden crypt]

bad matchmaking system it doesnt help out low pop servers

[sonic blade]

maybe read every study about about skilled based matchmaking systems in comparison to non skill based matchmaking systems in the last four years.. look in the mirror... self reflect and then read every other comment in this discord or the reddit that says you guys are doing a worse than poor job at making this game playable for players that dont have 500 hours already SMH xD you guys will do anything other than recognize the dev team is making DOGWATER decisions xD

[queen shuttle]

what do i do when i have too much stuff

[pastel stirrup]

You sell what you wont use

[solid light]

is 124 gear score gone in normals??

[sonic blade]

DEV team releases new update to balance gear matchmaking systems.... Makes the gear disparity past - 25 even worse xD

[queen shuttle]

am i able to sell stuff as a f2p

[trail bison]

There's plenty of friendly farmers in HR during off-peak hours, or low-population regions that people queue into specifically to farm. I've seen people get to Demi-God with a single player kill. If you're referring to under 25 gearscore lobbies, it's just meant for no-investment PvP and people are practicing mechanics.

[turbid pine]

to merchants, yes
to other players, no

[queen shuttle]

what stuff can i sell to merchants

[true stone]

why am I vs 600+ gear score in a 124> lobby

[pastel stirrup]

Sell it to the merchant

[civic juniper]

Never disagreed, never defended the dev team. Simply made fun of you for not being able to find #suggestion-discussion and crying in this channel. Channel your passion for the game into an outlet that may actually have an impact.

[turbid pine]

treasure must be sold to The Collector
any piece of gear can be sold to any other merchant

[sonic blade]

I'd agree with you if the dev team literally ever listened to it's diminishing player base instead of working on releasing new dogwater skins in the store

[balmy minnow]

no way did a guy who joined july24 just say "diminishing playerbase". all timmies are smoothbrained. timmies can blame YOU. smh

[tropic anchor]

can you get banned for teaming in HR solos? 🤔

[balmy minnow]

i swear to god if your down there typing something to me about steam charts. before there were steamcharts there would be 5k on at this point in the wipe.

[civic juniper]

Yeah but you need to prove it didn't happen organically. Basically need to screen record them 2v1ing without any in game comms.

[tropic anchor]

oh fair thanks for explanation

[sonic blade]

I forgot that how much time i have invested into playing the game is reflected by how long i've been a member of the discord.. you look very dumb my man

[balmy minnow]

if you think a 5-8x rise in playercount is a diminished playerbase...? you look very dumb. sorry man.

[strong dawn]

big facts

[sonic blade]

how much of that is retained and is impacting the concurrent player base? since you have all of the facts obviously

[civic juniper]

Buddy, if they aren't listening through the avenues that are setup for you to give feedback, why do you think plaguing this channel with your complaints is doing anything

[queen shuttle]

i only started playing cuz i saw a clip of jerma roleplaying as a wizard

[sonic furnace]

just wait till wipe the game will be popping with the new maps and hopefully new class

[balmy minnow]

napkin math says similar level of retention with the same 5x(+) rise in concurrent. still looking BIG dumb man.

[sonic blade]

Napkin math xD ur so sad

[strong dawn]

lmao here it is the copout response the no argument but default to insult get outa here

[balmy minnow]

i checked the steam chart. blacksmith and steam appear to be retaining 40% of its first day wipe playerbase. sorry i dont have the spreadsheet laid out for you. even bigger dumber.

AND 40% is probably better than pre steam. but i just smoked a bowl and this be on memory.

[sonic furnace]

why do people run to the discord to shit on the game if u dont like it hop on dungeonborne like the child u are

[civic juniper]

Reddit/Facebook must have not been getting enough response

[high fern]

trios with autofill off is the new solos hahaha wtf

[iron current]

Yeah this isn’t game-discussion chat this is the game-complaint chat lmao

[sonic furnace]

yea i tried it first game on and i just went in solo idk why but didnt work for me

[proud nymph]

so does the new matchmaking no obey the 124 then 125+ matchmaking

[kindred ginkgo]

dang they only brought back frost skelly i was tryna buy nightmare skelly

[sonic furnace]

yea over 24 there is no cap they try to put ppl with similar gs in the same game but if they cant be found u get put in with anybody

[balmy minnow]

is this true???

[elder mantle]

Anyone Lagging? severe frame drops?

[brazen palm]

yes 100%

[sonic furnace]

i was running about 300 gs and fighting full naked with like a green weapon or sum pretty stupid

[balmy minnow]

oh its gonna be a fun night in normals.

[civic juniper]

Thank God, time to run my artifacts in normals, I love smashing new players. The health pots quicksell really well

[elder mantle]

So no one is getting severe frame drops ????

[broken cove]

It's no longer no uniques in normals?

[sonic furnace]

old matchmaking was better should have just removed basecamp or inspect not switch all this and make ppl wait 4 hours for some bs

[civic juniper]

No idea, I haven't done it because I feared fighting similarly geared players. But now they will probably be lower so I can get good use out of my bis, I payed $15 for this, I should be powerful

[toxic mantle]

WHEN DWARF @blazing pulsar @blazing pulsar

[mellow sphinx]

Would it be better to go HR or normal inferno for quest Elite and Their Secrets (kill 5x elite spearman and axemen)

[civic juniper]

Higher concentration of elite spawns in hr

[tardy sail]

normal crupts, don't even need to goto inferno

[unborn topaz]

will Ruins be brought back?

[mellow sphinx]

O: okay thank you. I feel like i’ll spend a lot more time trying to find them in normal

[tardy sail]

All spear and axe skele's count as elite variants. On the wiki map they can be any "skeleton melee" mob. There are only like 0-3 static spawns if you select "skeleton axeman", better to just run around waking up skele's till you find them. Will take like 1-2 <25 crypt only runs to get it.

[icy charm]

lol its almost like a know what im talking about! the day after i was complaining about barbs they nerf them!

[mellow sphinx]

Oh why do they mention elite then? I guess i’ll try normals first

[tardy sail]

idk, all of the times I have a "kill elite" quest I just kill the normal ones and it counts

[mellow sphinx]

Cool thanks again

[sleek patio]

still cant play with geforce :V

[mellow swan]

is reshade allowed in d and d

[drowsy iris]

This new system of using the highest gear score of a team for matchmaking seems akin to using the team's highest-MMR player to determine the entire team's MMR, which no matchmaking system would do. Am I wrong?

[low flax]

yo why they remove the pre-game lobbies? that was the most exciting part for DND. now it just feels like a warzone game am i wrong?

[serene rivet]

Most Mobas and Shooters with mmr actually do place you based on the highest player MMR.

[tidal plover]

Pre lobby’s were so fun talking to other players no body uses VoIP in raid

[drowsy iris]

There's no way that's true.

[low flax]

no for real tho, its literally like a blackops game. you redy up and then sent into a game. meeting people in pre-game lobbies is how ive met some of my friends.

[serene rivet]

It's how every matchmaking system since Halo 3 has done it, I've abused most of them.

[bold gazelle]

Since the new patch, do the 25-125 Gear Increment still exist or not anymore ? How do we know?

[drowsy iris]

Wrong. Hunt: Showdown doesn't do this.

[iron current]

Anyone else have a great time in under 25’s but as soon as you put good stuff on for HR theres just so BIS’d asf player(s) spawn rushing you or theres just someone with all legendary frost gear? Like sure its part of the game but its like 1/4 HR lobbies I actually make it out of cuz the other 3/4 lobbies people are treating it like a battle royale and not a loot extraction game

[serene rivet]

Sorry, I meant relevant popular games with functioning mechanics. Ones with quality work put into them, not Hunt.

[low flax]

means we cant see what dam our weapons or spells do. simply just have to figure it out.

[warped carbon]

Stuff im dropping to my friend are just outright dissapearing after extract???? the goblin merchant says it comes back to me but its not

[low flax]

highrollers is no longer fun unless youre there to only pvp. 225gs is like your running naked in HR

[drowsy iris]

I don't suppose you have any proof of what you're saying? Because it seems obviously wrong to me.

[lime pine]

Is it just me or does anyone feels sometimes people are unrealistically tanky after the patch? I just saw a nakade rogue take 4 shots from a blue recurve bow, and then 2 shots from a goblin archer and still lives.

[cedar smelt]

2hand weapon?

[serene rivet]

It's in multiple dissertations about skill-based matchmaking, old systems, and dev blogs put out by Bungie, Riot, Valve, Activision, individual devs, and even Fortnite dev blogs. If you've played non-extraction shooters, this is always the case. I was a person who sold 50s(max rank accounts) on Halo while abusing the system.

[drowsy iris]

You're telling me that they design their system in such a way that players playing with their friends will almost assuredly be in unfair matches since they'll rarely all be equal in skill? What sense would that make?

[low flax]

honestly i think they should add in where you can only be one character for your team. this 3 wizard trio is absolutely toxic. also needs to add in a timer for wizards spell casting.

[red cipher]

do we know what the next class being added is yet?

[iron current]

Nah fr I just wanna go bare minimum 225s to kill cyclops and/or troll and get my money up but I get chased around all game by sweaty geared guys, and just there weapon alone is usually worth more then everything I have lol

[turbid pine]

sorcerer will be added next season

[red cipher]

fr?

[serene rivet]

It's impossible to design around this since that one person drags everyone up in such a weird way that it's incalculable to match skill levels perfectly. It's also to prevent boosting, low level abuse, and cheaters playing with noncheaters for money.

[low flax]

mainly all they run is named items. if they were gonna add a GS to high rollers they should of made it like norms. except do min 124gs max 225gs. above that should be any gs limit

[open orchid]

Is anyone not able to access merchants after the hotfix? I can't sell anything

[low flax]

best options for any bugs you get. Record it, and goto "Report-a-Bug" in Dnd Discord

[open orchid]

I reported it. Nothing to record tho you click and nothing happens

[pine swift]

bro 3/5 times i try and duo queue for hr it puts me in solo and i get domed cause im solo

[low flax]

thats your bug right their. you cant open up your merchancts.

[iron current]

The 299 lobbies were prime but the min maxing on true phys/magic is what ruins it and makes it expensive asf to run HR

[ocean eagle]

remove basecamp

[low flax]

Wait till they have the new "Gem: system for the market. soon you wont see such high gear going for 1-2k the balancing in the shop next season will be better. nobody will be able to price their item super high without a so called "Gem". itll make named items and real valued items worth what they actually are.

[drowsy iris]

To the matchmaker, a “fair” match is one where each team has a 50% +/-1% chance of winning, which we create by pairing off teams of roughly the same average MMR. Further down we'll get into some of the challenges that can complicate this process, but we aim for no more than a 4–5 MMR gap between the averages of both teams in the majority of games.
This is from the official League of Legends site.

[umbral violet]

DEAR DEVS, THE NEW MATCHMAKING SYSTEM IS AMAZING! I HAVEN'T BEEN CHASED BY SWEATY KOS TWITCH STREAMERS IN ANY OF MY RECENT HR GAMES! THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU. CHEERS! F SWEATS!

[low flax]

only thing that truly sucks is no pre-game lobbies 😦

[serene rivet]

You realize this agrees with me right. If you have a person whos plat on both teams, but the rest of one team is bronze, you'll get silvers and golds on the enemy team because the average has been highly skewed. High ranked players skew averages, thereby making you matched on the highest skill.

[ancient slate]

That's not what you said at all

[drowsy iris]

You said nothing about averages. You said that every system uses the highest-player's MMR as the team's MMR.

[serene rivet]

"Drags everyone up in such a weird way that it's incalculable" Everyone means team average in that sentence.

[drowsy iris]

o boy. Pointless conversation terminates here.

[native isle]

anyone have images of whta the bone potions look like in game?

[viscid gust]

Idk what the common consensus is but I absolutely hate new rockfall for cyclops

[drowsy iris]

Oh? How'd they change it?

[viscid gust]

Its no longer the half ish second after he slams its way delayed and you have to dodge ground shadow markers to not take damage

[severe otter]

goddamn they made cyclops even easier now haha

[limber wasp]

so you don't have to jump at all? just dodge shadows?

[drowsy iris]

That seems better to me, at least on paper. More intuitive.

[final sky]

How do you put away a weapon to have bare hands?

[charred quarry]

no random 3x headshot instagib

[severe otter]

before this change there was no way to dodge the rocks. It was pure random. Good change, but too easy imo

[viscid gust]

After farming cyclops all wipe my ratio of getting hit to not was incredibly low, I never really ran into the random rocks hitting me but the 3x damage one shotting you on a bad jump was a problem. I dont think this version is the wrong idea but it makes the fight way more frustrating have to look at the ground to avoid them and the amount of rocks where I had to run way out of the way to not get hit has been frustrating for sure

[severe otter]

how you hate it? it is simply easier. If you dont focus on dodging rocks then its the exact same as before you just dont have to jump.

[drowsy iris]

Yeah, the previous mechanic was too enigmatic, I think. Crouch-jumping at weird timings to avoid damage? Nah, practically requires players to read about the boss to have a chance.

[ocean eagle]

I CHOSE TO LOAD INTO HIGH ROLLER FROST CAVES AND FILL MY TEAM AND I DIDNT GET MY TEAM FILLED. SO I LOADED INTO HIGH ROLLER TRIOS BY MY FKN SELF. IRONMACE WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU LET IT LOAD ME INTO TRIOS BY MYSELF IF I SELECTED TO HAVE MY EMPTY TEAM SLOTS FILLED UP.
BIG SURPRISE I WAS SPAWN RUSHED BY 3 WIZARDS, ON THE SAME TEAM AND IM SOLO, AND SINCE THEY'RE WIZARDS MY FPS IS SPIKING AND FLUCTUATING AND HITTING LIKE 20.

[frosty knot]

So uh, what happened within 2 hours of the patch being live to inform their HR decisions? What's the "testing"

[severe otter]

Its the exact same with the rocks. They just show on the ground before. If you didnt get hit often you just semi lucky. You couldnt get good at it. You could get good at dodging the aoe on the ground not the rocks.

[ocean eagle]

Dont load into high roller trios as a solo and expect your team to be filled, you're gonna end up as a solo. Waste my gold and time ironmace.

[severe otter]

they should give cyclops the petrify in normal but a slower version. Helps learning the high roller version too.

[atomic bronze]

Why they remove 124 lobbys ??????

[glad pasture]

Hello ! The Madrinas lobby emote still can be purchased ?

[frosty knot]

It doesn't fill the party? And we still sit in a three minute box? What changed then??

[whole forge]

are the gear lobbys gone?

[drowsy iris]

They've implemented a wacky system in which the highest gear score on the team is the team's gear score.

[severe otter]

same as before no? If 2 were 24 and 1 was 26 then you get into above 25 lobby.

[ocean eagle]

hell if i know. why did i have to spend my gold to get 255 gear score so it lets me die to trio wizards. ironmace scammed me
remove the gear score on high roller. why is it even there? Too many streamers complaining they cant pvp in high roller and get gear?

[drowsy iris]

No, it takes more effort to tailor your build to match the highest score on the team before each match in order to be the most efficient. They should use some sort of averaging system so players can just get into the game.

[serene rivet]

Same as before with group score but now it's on <25 and 25+. They try to match you on gear score but don't have enough data yet.

[frosty knot]

Too many people complaining about "low gear players diluting the queue" while simultaneously claiming that they "wouldn't hunt down the mid tier 225 kits"

[glad pasture]

Buy any madrinas coffee give the 3 emotes including the lobby one ?

[ocean eagle]

maybe they should actually fix the issue and make it so low gear plays struggle more to kill geared players. Maybe barbs shouldnt be so overbuffed they can just run down casters.

[subtle heart]

i don’t get it

[severe otter]

i hate it too. Rn it isnt bad because majority got money already, but next wipe its gonna be annoying.

[drowsy iris]

I'd say those complaints were valid. We had what, twelve different queues diluting the pool of players? Adds a lot of wait time and partial lobbies.

[severe otter]

they are talking about high roller which had no gearscore restriction before

[frosty knot]

I think you may have misunderstood me. The reason for the GS minimum was to remove the ability for someone to go into HR with a squire kit because it made it "not worth it" to run in gear. Those complaints are what led to the 225 minimum.

[drowsy iris]

Ahh, my bad.

[ocean eagle]

Lets talk about the real issue on hand, fill my team when i select fill my team. I SHOULD NOT ever end up solo in trio high roller.
I would rather the matchmaking say "sorry cant find teammates"

[frosty knot]

Its crazy that they made it so you HAD to queue into only the queue which matched your party size and then removed it

[drowsy iris]

lol

[tall thunder]

I bet a trap filled ranger is loving this random bracket

[marble yoke]

I just loaded into what I thought was a under 125 lobby and a guy was running 767 gear score with a void blade. Been playing 8 days. I miss under 125. Might have to take a break.

[ocean eagle]

but the 255 gs is still there so why not just keep making half implimented test systems and put them on live server, who cares its end of wipe, right iron mace?

[royal briar]

funny how the lobby was removed but is still there ...

[frosty knot]

Let's be real, the test server has no value bc nobody bothers to play it. Why waste your time "testing" something for a beta game when it doesn't lead to improving the update anyway

[fallow loom]

6 hour patch. End result: there’s now a queue time, as well as a lobby still. Party fill doesn’t work or at the very least is spotty. AP was broken. The GS requirement in HR was broken.

Like, wtf?

[weary panther]

Great patch clearly

[ocean eagle]

its embarrassing honestly. Why did they add this matchmaking but not remove bascamp. remove basecamp. why add team matchmaking, but allow me to load in as a solo anyway. I mean seriously. Then its insult to injury when the goblin merchant offers me my bardiche back for 500 gold. like no. its garbage

EMBARASSING. And why does cancel matchmaking show up after 10 seconds? If you find a match too fast and you cant cancel?? Why even have the button show up at all

[glossy nexus]

+1 @ocean eagle

[drowsy iris]

So, doesn't this new system disincentivize the use of weapons above common since they have such high gear score? There are lower-gear-score ways to improve damage. This might be true for a lot of pieces.

[subtle heart]

they took out all the good things, and then implemented good things that dont even work. i dont think IM likes its community or playerbase

[subtle heart]

its more of a fuck others or be fucked by others matchmaking now. youre either dominating timmies with a 400 GS or you are the timmy with a 40 GS getting fucked by a 400 GS

[glossy nexus]

or play with 24 in gear to looking for a balance pvp and no one shot

[subtle heart]

yep

[viral thorn]

Let it all out man, you are saying what we all thinking

[subtle heart]

real

[ocean eagle]

Put all this shit back on the test server and fix it please.

[white ridge]

gear and strategy suggestions for AP farming. any tips or tricks at meating the required gear score inexpensivly

[grave geode]

buy the cheapest epic weapons on the market to bump your gs

[ocean eagle]

Im dont want play this game while its like this, but i really want to AP farm and get these cosmetic quests done cause im on a time constraint that YOU MADE IRON MACE.

[tidal plover]

Buy purple chapels and don’t bring a kit

[last tapir]

More espace on inventory, or a backpack item.

[scenic shuttle]

theres a bug where warlocks curse of pain doesnt heal him

[limpid seal]

how do you break small wooden crate as fighter for the quest ?

[white ridge]

lol i have a whole ass kit of purp and legendary and im still only a GS of 242

[woven nebula]

Just hit it with your weapon.

[limpid seal]

i did like 15 time on the same create with a battle axe and it doesnt work

[unkempt crescent]

you sure you hit it?

[digital wraith]

Yoyo. How i cant play HR game with 72 gear score (obviously under 225 gear score), but guy with 562 gear score can play normal. Can someone explain? Been out from the game for some time.

[woeful dawn]

wrong box then. Arming/falcion both break containers. All axes/2h weps break containers. Only rapier/daggers dont breakt he containers

[hexed cliff]

stuff longbows up your ass, instant hr run

[thick basin]

you might be hitting a level asset, not a real box

[ocean eagle]

so many people try and say 255 isnt even that high, but this right here is exactly what im saying. its too high

[woven nebula]

Nodders

[turbid pine]

There hasn't been a hard cap on normals gear for quite a while
Only Unique tier gear is HR-exclusive.

At the same time, there isn't exactly a point to bringing in high gear to normals. Its the exact same dungeon you could be doing in squire gear. It's extra risk for the same reward.
Anyone who's running expensive kits in normals instead of HR just doesn't really know what they're doing tbh

[limpid seal]

i could open it....

[woven nebula]

You can't open crates, so what you're hitting is definitely not a crate.

[thick basin]

haha there you go then. thats not a real box

[hexed cliff]

if you're trying to "equip yourself" to 225 you're just doing it qrong.
like actually wrong, you should just put high gear score stuff in your inventory

[digital wraith]

Thats interesting, thought it would be only for players under 225..kinda hwat moment

[limpid seal]

ah i got it i confused that quest with a chest 😅

[hexed cliff]

it's so wrong of a thing to do to try and gear yourself to 225 I actually don't have advice on how to do so even if you want to

[drowsy iris]

Free-to-play has no other outlet for their gear, though.

[cobalt cairn]

this is pretty much just wrong, me and a friend were running hr goblin caves to get some pvp while we got a few characters to wanderer and we mostly ran into players with very humble kits, nothing really crazy but after we finished we went to norms and got full lobbies with multiple juiced players, so norms was definitely the place to go with gear

[white ridge]

what has the highest gear scors

[hexed cliff]

weapon daamage is best source of that by stats

[drowsy iris]

You'd have better luck looking up a guide. I know you can find them on YouTube if you want a video version.

[white ridge]

i havent found anyone that gets into the details if you have a youtuber to suggest then ill check them out though. so far ive learned more about aP farming from you guys here then i have in like 3 or 4 videos

i havenet done High rollar since like befor this wipe and all the changes for sure, just been honing my PVP To that effect what can i expect the pvp to be like?

[carmine hearth]

What is the go to barb weapon now that we got all the changes>?