game-discussion

[noble bronze]

Modified the creep system to allow for more tactical decision making. Normal movement has the footstep sound range set to completely fall off at 2000 units (~20M). Moving while crouching has the footstep sound range set to completely fall off at 1500 units (~15M). Finally walking has the sound range set to completely fall off at 1000 units (~10M). The only way to completely turn off the footstep sound within these ranges is for a rogue to utilize a perk allowing them to crouch-move in silence.

[subtle heart]

I like it when someone present you with a full response that covers it all. Thanks man

[noble bronze]

👍

[lone panther]

whats the best dg to farm mimics? wanna get bundle of bangles done on a few alts asap since i got the set of blues 3x over

[hollow sigil]

the cage room in crypts has 3 mimics infront of where the pressure plate drops the wraith

[cunning kraken]

ello ppl im a noob and am looking to hook with others and learn and have fun x3

[shadow bough]

Try posting in the lfg chats, those are made for finding teams. Ie, looking for group

[hollow sigil]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1011086062845706282 or there is a discord called "The Hall of Knights" that is directly linked with this discord for new people

[cunning kraken]

just did after i found it

[shadow bough]

The above comment tho might be better suited for you, the hall of knights is a discord made for older players to guide newer ones

[cunning kraken]

hall of knights?

[shadow bough]

Yeah if you open the game in the lobby screen on the top left should be link to that.

[hollow sigil]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1045477312600223824 go to this channel and scroll up a few announcements as well it is in the game lobby screen

[hasty valley]

saw a dream that cleric and bard was nerfed, i was living the dream

[snow smelt]

Game life expectancy is higher without zone, vast majority of players don't like the zone mechanic.

[little hearth]

I despise the zone, very glad it is gone

[tiny bay]

Hi. Any tips for learning to parry with the longsword better, or is it just rinse and repeat? I sometimes struggle to tell where the block zone is

[frail parrot]

is there an under 125 gear score queue??

[little hearth]

mix of rinse and repeat and learning the swing pattern of other weapons and the block zone of the sword, there's a couple of youtube guides from a quick search, so could watch people playing with longswords to get an idea of the spacing, not a longsword user since it isn't on my class but that's how I'd do it

[tiny bay]

Yeah thanks, I'll have a look

[analog willow]

they fix the gs system yet?

[little hearth]

[visual plover]

opened lever door, trap door opens bunch of spiders get out. Realized there's a spawner down there the place pitch black. Crouched inside killed the spawner then another spider appears and block my way back, but when I take torch to see where to hit I'm dead. I mean you really want new people to stick with this crap ?

[little hearth]

You can throw torches down to keep light in an area, there is a learning curve and PvE eventually becomes the easiest part of the game outside of bosses

[round axle]

Can you pull Uniques from the goblin merchant

[cosmic swan]

No it seem to be Legendary max

[proud veldt]

@glad thunder Can we please get ranked matchmaking for Hr I don't want to have to fight voyager and demigod in wanderer games I can't see how people don't want this to be implemented into the game it's really unfair to newer players that want to rank up and get even the lower rewards like pathfinder.

[deft lintel]

But getting rank has nothing to do to do with PvP? Wait until arena mate.

Also, if you played the game, you would know that this WAS implemented, and it turned out to be a disaster

[candid birch]

Hello guys is Druid Bear form affected by weapon damage? Thanks!

[stiff ember]

Why does my body completely disapear along with my soul? my duo cant find the dead body to res?

[full oar]

Can someoen tell me how do you get the [Wild] stats for each form on druid? what do you need to do to get it

[cosmic swan]

No but it have is own scaling like said in the form description

@stiff ember that happen very rarely. Sometime the body have a weird ragdoll en clip through the ground. Or he can be somewhere else for your mate than where you see it on your screen

[stiff ember]

is that ever gonna get fixed

I lost a lot on a run for that..

[winter dock]

where do i get primitive bracelets from?

[severe kraken]

when and what next update xdd

[full oar]

Does fame= gear score?

[hasty valley]

no, its whatever is in your inventory or equipped.

[gentle egret]

if someone else gets last hit on a boss i need for a quest ie troll, cyclops lich etc do i need to run it again? or does that complete the quest?

[hasty valley]

any teammate killing anything in the round, if youre alive, you get credit for afaik

[gentle egret]

sounddd

[lone swan]

i dont know if this is the best placee to ask, but i got hunter leggings with plus 1 vigor armor rating and magic resist whats a reasonable selling price

[quiet basin]

@zinc sparrow fix servers when, been rubberbanding for like a week now lol

[lone swan]

if specifics matter its 1 vigor 7 magic resist 5 armor rating

[fresh oak]

I just killed a 3 man team as a solo fighter. I feel invincible

[stuck arch]

hey guys, whats ur opinion on lantern shield for active block-n-hit playstyle? i dont see many people use it but im curious regardless

[vast plank]

How much is dark and darker

[latent briar]

Oneofthe few things i still dont know how to attack with it after block,but probably because i prefer buckler or heater shield

[stuck arch]

you block first with hold right click, then you press right click again after a successful block. you can chain it 2 times, i tried it myself but the range is awful unlike longsword which has 'long' as the name implies xD. i just want to believe this shield has a place in current meta because carrying torch everywhere is a lot of work for me

[rapid imp]

H

Hello, after i switched to Steam my Computer is about to explode when i start DnD. My CPU is getting fully occupied by the game. This was not with the old launcher. Someone has the same problems ?

[tribal saddle]

where I find gear score Brackets

[cold dock]

under 25 over 25 normals
hr has no gear score queue

[humble aspen]

Yo. Was wondering what's the best way to get money on f2p account without selling at the marketplace. Cant find any information on this online so id rly appreciate any tips.

[small marsh]

$30 USD

[forest sinew]

A simple way is just to solo que into crypts or any map i guess. Find an extract and loot as much as you can in the area around it ready to run to the extract the moment it gets rough. if you want faster money tho youll need to do things like hunt for wolf pelts or kill bosses but you wouldnt be able to sell pelts on market without upgrade.

[humble aspen]

Thanks, should i try to ignore big loot and prioritize jewelry, rings and other 1 slot items?

[latent briar]

Different game settings?noone said anything related to this.and steam should not make your cpu use much

[forest tapir]

how does extra health on weapons work? if you have 5 life left because of a weapons stat then switch off it, do you die?

[red scaffold]

Hello i just wanted to ask what happened to the open map it looked so good (im just seeing old videos of dark and darker)

[fluid island]

you just lose 5 max health

[jade nexus]

Generally yes. I havent played in a while so maybe outdated. But the high quality (Blue+) big items Are usually worth more per Slot than the small ones of similar quality.

[fluid island]

they're apparently reworking it since rogues could double jump up to the roof and hide there for entire games so it might return in the future

[hushed agate]

why tf are greens cheaper than white

[hexed zenith]

Why dont you just compare it with familiar stats in AH?

[red scaffold]

sad i wanna play it so bad it seems so good

[vague plover]

how does one regain the charge of Second WInd? is it one time use per dungeon? I see the bar underneath it that is used for spells, but it doesnt fill as you rest

[kind osprey]

how is a fighter allowed to bring in 3 purples and still be under the 124 gear score? literally 60% pdr in the mid tier lobbies

[blazing pulsar]

a campfire can get second wind back

[vague plover]

ah, thanks

[dark hinge]

some whites are required to craft good greens with 2 mods instead of one

[empty zealot]

Dont bring the grey jewelry though, they arent worth it. A lot of the time white jewelry isnt good either. But green and blue is very good sell ratio 👌

[humble aspen]

Thanks

[nova bronze]

nerf cleric ffs

[cosmic swan]

Why sould they nerf or rework on cleric. I get that he's too strong right now but I haven't see anyone say why he's good or suggest good rework or nerf

[nova bronze]

I pray to God you never have to find out.

[kind osprey]

i don't even know where people are saying cleric is op from. if he uses smite, you literally just walk away

[cosmic swan]

No but seriously I want to know. If people are just saying nerf cleric or remove cleric without any good suggestion or real point on what make him so good it's useless to ask for a nerf

[cloud marten]

Does ShadowTouch of Warlock scale with Magical Healing oder Physical Healing?

[spare nymph]

Does drop probability on the luck stat scale with chests vases mobs etc.? or is it just chests.

[cosmic swan]

Nop, it don't scale at all. Only the Vapirism perk buff it a little bit

[nova bronze]

His kit is overall overtuned. Incredible sustain, the highest tankiness in the game, a stronger slow than achillies, runs faster than a rogue, etc. (All of this is assuming correct gear, if that even needfs to be said)

There is quite literally no other class whether at low gear or high gear that can compete with Cleric on any playing field.

[cosmic swan]

Seem to be Mob and chest https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Luck

[kind osprey]

wow. I fuckin WISH cleric could do all that.

[cosmic swan]

Ok so if he manage as fast as a rogue that mean you can too, Cleric have one of the lowest base speed. I agree that the slow on the Faithfulness perk could be removed, I also though it'll be too powerfull when they added it. And what make him the most tanky? The fact that he's tanky and can heal? Other classe can be as tanky as him. And I can't agree, at low gear Cleric is not that strong. he's mid at best

@kind osprey He can actually

[spare nymph]

The sum of luck also confuses me because maths is hard and it's not linear the difference between 250-500 luck isn't too detrimental so how much luck would i need for a more probable chance at good drops while also at a low luck score.

[manic shell]

MAXIMUM!

[kind osprey]

not at the same time. if he wants to be fast he has to give up tanky, strong slow has to used with judgement which is a buggy mess and means no smite which is way stronger, his self heal is weak, and has little ranged capability

[cosmic swan]

Yeah I kinda agree with you except with a bis Epic or Legendary gear the cleric can't do everything at the same time. But anyway it's seem that Cleric is quite strong right now and I want to understand why. The extra slow on the Faithfulness perk could be one thing to nerf

[spare nymph]

going back to what i just said aswell, how does the luck scaling system effect the drop rate probability as on the wiki it dosen't go too in depth about it. i suppose in simple terms it's "the higher the better". but i'd still like to know more about it.

[cosmic swan]

Well we don't really know more than what the wiki say. So yes the highest the better

[subtle heart]

The real question is who gets the unique item if it drops

[spare nymph]

me

[manic shell]

Luck is imaginary stats for me

If youre lucky, doesnt matter how much luck you have, youll get good loot.

If youre unlucky however, back to doesnt matter how much luck you have, youll get bad loot

[iron kestrel]

will or magic power which one does more scaling

[manic shell]

Just put 50-100 luck and hope youre lucky and be on with it

[cosmic swan]

depend how much you have. But Will is almost always better

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats#Magical_Power After 40 Will if you get an item with 1 Will and another with 2 Magical power or more than 1% of Magical power bonus then it's better than 1 Will

[spare nymph]

true, but i'd like to squeeze maximum probability on the most desired low luck stat which has a similar chance to the max luck stat as the formula isn't fully linear.

[manic shell]

200-250, squeezing max is not worth it, diminishing return i believe.

[cosmic swan]

Well based on the wiki, around 150 luck is the most efficient. This is where you get the most luck for a minimal amount of luck

[fading seal]

true "luck" stat is not real

[spare nymph]

yeah, as stated on the wiki the only two stats tested and ballparked from the formula is 250 and 500 and there wasn't much difference while 250 gave still a desirable result.

[manic shell]

Or 150, best place too with minimum luck but great possibility.

[spare nymph]

chatgpt told me this "A LuckGrade​ of 50 results in a luck stat of 0.95. This is a good balance as it keeps the luck stat high, enhancing the chances of obtaining epic and legendary items, while maintaining a relatively low LuckGrade​.

Optimal Strategy: Aim for a LuckGrade​ around 50 to achieve a luck stat of 0.95, which should offer better drop rates for epic and legendary items while keeping the LuckGrade​ low."

[manic shell]

@spare nymph so this.

[spare nymph]

yeah p much "A Luck Grade of 50 is a cost-effective choice, providing a high luck stat of 0.95. If you can afford a bit more, a Luck Grade of 100 gives you a still high luck stat of 0.90, offering slightly better drop rates without a significant increase in cost.
By aiming for these levels, you balance the benefits of a higher luck stat with the practical constraints of in-game resources and costs."

[subtle heart]

What consider a good f2p class that doesn't depend that much on gear since farming money is not that easy for me?

[cosmic swan]

I guess warlock as he's the most powerfull class right now and can deal easily with both PvE and PvP

[spare nymph]

bard is fun aswell

[valid yew]

does item quality on the squire increase with trader rep?

[subtle heart]

@spare nymph @cosmic swan
Thanks

[cosmic swan]

Yes but only up to white

[valid yew]

okay thanks a ton!!!

[nova bronze]

Can someone explain to me why the meta is people in full plate moving at 300+ movespeed, 50%pdr, and a rondel dagger? Straight up incredibly stupid to play against, and boring asf to play as. But hey, lets nerf wizard again

[hollow ember]

• Limit the number of HP Pots/Bandages you can carry to 3 stacks (each) (limit surg kits to 1)
• Add hit markers (optional, default on)
• Buff wizard pve
• Nerf PDR

[nova bronze]

I agree with everything you just said.

[past lava]

Limit the number of braincells people can invest in 1 comment

[cosmic swan]

Same agree except the buff part. I'm not against balancing the wizard or the weakest class but #game-discussion message

[hollow ember]

just pve

[nova bronze]

PVE clear is a quality of life thing- hes not wanting wizard to one shot players.

[cosmic swan]

Yeah sure but being fast to clear PvE is a buff. You know that if you hear a wizard in PvE you can go in because he's slow to kill it

[cosmic swan]

Buffing how a class handle PvE also buff how strong he his overall. Most importantly on a ranger class. A wizard that (if buffed) clear fast can run on class who are slower and start to attack them from a distance that won't be fair too. But maybe there's a sweet spot between where we are now and what I'm saying. @hollow ember Do you have any suggestion?

[subtle heart]

Mobs should have armor rating

[cosmic swan]

They do, but negative armor rating

Armor, Projectile and Magical armor rating. Most of them have the same value tho, except boss and maybe some mini boss

[subtle heart]

Yea but it shouldnt be negative armor, cause bards shriek of weakness is super powerful in that matter, wizards melt perk reduces the AR by flat -10% while bard reduced it by flat number i dont remember how much but because of negative scaling being unforgiving bards have super ez time killing mobs

[cosmic swan]

Yep that's true (I think its -30 for Shriek). But I think it's meant to be this way. People would cry too much if PvE was even longer to kill

[stuck cove]

do maps on howling crypts really rotate? i loaded the map like 20-40 times and every time I get the first version with no pyramid and no barracks

[cosmic swan]

Yes it rotate it's 50/50 so I don't think that's possible to get the same 20 time in a row. Did you looked at the map https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N To be sure in which one you are?

[marsh shuttle]

guys seriously when is warlock getting removed

[hollow ember]

I honestly feel the wizard needs a full remake, and it might happen when sorcerer comes out, but for now buffing pve would be good, because they're not that good in pvp either rn

[severe kraken]

any update soon? when 😄 ?

[fluid island]

Why hit markers

[hollow ember]

experience from other games, it's always been a good adition

[cosmic swan]

Yes actually I hope the wizard will get rework more in a buff mage when Sorcerer will come up. And I agree with you that Wizard is one of the weakest class right now but I think the solution is to nerf to other not buffing the weak

@severe kraken We don't really know but probably before the weekend like they used too. The rythm got broken by the Revers of AP and Warlock "Nerf" hotfix but I think they'll keep the rythm they add before that

[fluid island]

Imo it should be default off though since hitmarkers kinda break immersion but I might just be biased since I don't like hitmarkers very much

[cosmic swan]

An option to add or remove it could be good

[fluid island]

The dude did say it should be optional but I'm just saying that it should be off by default instead of on

[cosmic swan]

Yeak ok,but if you have the choice it's litteraly a button to click in the settings

[hollow ember]

feedback/responsiveness is always great, specially for newer players, if you keep it off by default most newer players won't experience it.
hit markers can be subtle, it was a great addition to Rust, f.e.

[cloud parrot]

can someone explain why i am in a lobby with 300 gearscore

[lofty furnace]

Hello. Can someone tell me please Is there any way to use rubysilver in the game right now?

[pastel stirrup]

The game is really a paid to profit with some crucial feature that make a huge difference in the income we can have as F2P player compare to the players who paid to have the right to sell items in the market

[cosmic swan]

Because you have more than 125 gear score or are playing High Roller

@lofty furnace Not yet the quest to unlock Ruby craft should come at the end of this week

[cloud parrot]

i have 123 its normal lobby
im about to lose my gear to some mega gear diff

[cosmic swan]

It's not "People who paid to have the right to" the game was here a year and a half before the Steam release. It's not a free game. The Squire version is a Extend Demo version. If you want everything you have to pay the game. Paying player don't have more than you, you have less than us and that's how it's meant to be

@cloud parrot Ok weird. I hope they didn't shadow removed the new shadow added bracket xD

@weak snow #suggestion-discussion but most importantly https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[weak snow]

is there any way to report feedback for the game development?

[wary heart]

Hi, do you know what is the difference between a book and a magic staff?

[cloud parrot]

look dms

[lofty furnace]

Thank you

[cosmic swan]

The move speed, damage and animation of casting spell (Book if faster for less damage, staff = more damage but slower)

[muted crow]

@glad thunder REMOVE FAITHFULNESS FROM THE GAME, MAKE SMITE A SINGLE ATTACK ABILITY THAT CAN BE BLOCKED AND STOP RENDERING THE MELEE CLASSERS IRRELEVANT WITH STUPID BALANCING DECISIONS

[near kiln]

is the ore amount the same if you kill the frost wyvern in normals compared to hr?

[pastel stirrup]

So it fair for you that news players can't recover money easily just by selling a item 6 times the price of the merchant when other players can do that so they gain an unfair advantage income profit that is like doing 10 times more money than someone who can't sell any item on the market.

[stuck cove]

it's always the first one. every single time.

[cosmic swan]

Not fair but yes, because it's meant to be like that. The free version is not meant do be played on long term. The goal is to make you buy the game. That's why there is restriction

[stuck cove]

by now i know all rooms on the first map because i never got the 2nd one

[pastel stirrup]

Ok but hope they fix the crash because in the last 3 days with the update the game crash 17 times

[cosmic swan]

Well you can try to #report-a-bug or open a ticket #discord-help because that sound like a bug

@pastel stirrup The game always had lag and crash issues but it's getting better, they work on it. I know it can be frustrating but stay patient

[pastel stirrup]

Yeah with all the crash I estimate my pert to 2000 golds by each category of items: healing , ores and equipment

[cosmic swan]

What server are you playing on? I almost never got in game crash in almost 1000h. Lag sometime, stutter or rubberbanding but crash only at the end of the game or in the menu

[pastel stirrup]

NA east

[dark wyvern]

Its annoying to read every login the same update news,
about making a mistake, taking the update back and so on..
Pls remove this feature, show the info only if someone clicked on an info button, or change the text more often or whatever.

I mean we all know now you made a mistake, if alone because we had so replan our day because you only gave 15 minutes warning time before shutting down servers. This is straigth up unproffessional and is easy to do better.

[weak lantern]

guyz if me and my friend are playing in duo can we both get extract from same point?

[cloud geyser]

So is pre-teaming to mass lobby for the wyvern allowed? Every streamer does it

[cosmic swan]

Depend of the extract. But blue stair/rope are one time use. If you want more info #q-and-a message

@cloud geyser #📢community-announcements message

[snow ginkgo]

is there a way to report a match? very 1st game got called a specific word.

[vague plover]

Blue stairs = Instant escape, 1 person
Blue rope = slow escape, 1 person
Blue portals = slow escape, 3 people (if others didnt take some)
Blue ship/elevator = slow escape, as many people that can fit on the small platform (id guess like 6 maybe if you cram, but idk why you would need 6)

[weak lantern]

thanks

[fleet token]

hows everyone coping with the cleric bonk meta

[cosmic swan]

#in-game-reports

@fleet token I've seen several people talk about that but no one really came with a good rework/nerf idea. Except remove the slow of Faithdfulness perk

[fleet token]

man watching jays stream yesterday was insane, he was 2v1ing geared people with his torch and winning it was wild

[smoky dock]

Do kills on PVE by teammates contribute to a players exp levels? Even if they don't hit it etc

[snow ginkgo]

Completely useless to me, is there a way to report a person/match in game.
because you can't see someones name if they run away constantly.
already sick of this timer.

[cosmic swan]

Nop, XP is not shared. Only AP Is

@snow ginkgo When spectating you can report the person you are watching

[smoky dock]

Thanks!

[snow ginkgo]

you also can't see player names in the basecamp which is where it happened.

[cosmic swan]

Yeah, but don't worry the Voip in prelobby won't stay for long as they are removing the prelobby soon. It was just a test/last time thing to add the Voip in Prelobby

[snow ginkgo]

do they half bake everything? because rn warlock feels unplayable as a new player.

[cosmic swan]

What do you mean unplayable? Like too weak?

[wild falcon]

anyone know whats the best way to gain legendary gems beside pille ?

[hexed drift]

@wild falcon i think its only the pile

if u kill a crypt boss i get royals from the chest inside kinda nice

[cosmic swan]

Have some luck on you'r gear / use luck potion and farm Lion head/golden chest in inferno normal or in High roller

[snow ginkgo]

they buff/debuff based on "having gear" instead of making them useable by defaut and allowing us free rain to adapt our build with armor and rings ect... and yess, a new warlock without any gear is unberable. meaning you'd need to play another character just to play warlock for starting gear which requires a gold account.|

i find the way they buff/nerf very petty and unstable.

[strong harbor]

bring back forgotten ruins

[fluid island]

Base gear warlock isn't bad

[snow ginkgo]

with just torture mastery?

[cosmic swan]

Warlock is the most broken class right now, even in normal with base kit. And yes the nerf/buff can look random but it's just that the game is hard to balance and still in early access. They're still trying thing even if it look bad.

@snow ginkgo Yes, Torture mastery Warlock is the best class and build right now

[fluid island]

Yeah I'm literally running base gear tm lock rn

[snow ginkgo]

which is why i said what i said, they buff/nerf based on gear. and warlock is extremely underpower'd at the start and there's really only 1 good way to manage his health and he uses health to cast.

[serene plover]

yo question is cave troll ressistant to rogue bleed and poison damage is it even worth going lacerate insted of armor pen ?

[fluid island]

Warlock is definitely not underpowered at the start

[cosmic swan]

Yes the balance of the game is made on the base of Trio - High roller. That's how the game is supposed to be played after you have learned how to play and how it work

@serene plover No he's not resistant to poison/bleed it's even a good idea since it counter the passiv healing of troll

[cosmic swan]

I don't want to be rude or anything but I think you still have a lot to learn and thing to get better. Be patient, keep learning and improving and you'll see. Many thing can look unfair for new player they can't balance the game for new player. New player are not meant to stay new forever

[serene plover]

@snow ginkgo i can agree with this guy , i mean my first class was rogue and i was flaberghasted that people one shot me , but then i learned to play like a piece of dog and now its fine

[rigid siren]

Hello, I keep seeing posts about 25-124 gear score lobbies but I can't find any official changelog about them. Are people telling the truth? I thought lobbies were just split between under/over 25.

[cosmic swan]

It have been the same for everyone. Your first class always seem bad but that's because you are learning how to play not because of the class itself

@rigid siren There is no official patchnote yet but yes it's true. The people of the wiki, lots of streamer, hundred of people and reddit and here (And most importantly me) have confirmed it. Now it's 0-24 / 25-124 / 125+

[deft lintel]

Nothing official. The wiki is the most “official” it gets atm.

[hearty geode]

Any word on the PVP arena?

[cosmic swan]

Should be available this season. So in 1.5-2.5 month max

[deft lintel]

You can listen to the podcast they did after first week if you want, but nothing since then.

[serene plover]

yeah i mean basic skeleton axe man was a problem for me for like 20 games until i realized that you just need to go around him and do a duck occasionally, needless to say no basic mob is hard any more just some times annoying bit .

[cosmic swan]

True, the axe skeleton is a real nightmare for beginner xD

[hearty geode]

Thanks @cosmic swan & @deft lintel

[upbeat haven]

is centaur hoof needed for any quests/crafts?

[deft lintel]

Yes, 1 quest

[upbeat haven]

nice to get that out of the way then

[ebon dagger]

Preteaming to gang up on players isn't allowed, they said when teasing the first concepts of the wyvern you'd need the help of others adventuring the dungeon

[manic shell]

They aint ready to release frostwyvern, but they did release it anyway.

[cosmic swan]

No, imo you get it wrong. The wyvern is ready. The way it work (4 player needed) is ready too. The issues is that with the actual matchmaking system people can still pre team too easily. That's what they're going to change imo. They're not going to change the wyvern activation or make easier the matchmaking. It's the opposite.

@jade lake The gear you can craft with copper are actually really good to use

[jade lake]

does copper ingot have any use besides crafting armor (quests)? me and my duo found a shit ton of it after killing some people that mined it

[deep sage]

you can upgrade armor to a version that is more useful for certain builds

[vapid arch]

no, ingots are only really good for plate boots because they give 5 strength for some reason
its best used as powder to craft adventurer tunic

[manic shell]

They aint ready for the matchmaking, hence aint ready to release wyvern to its intended way.

#📢community-announcements message

[cosmic swan]

Really? They give 5 strengh? That's probably a mistake

[cosmic swan]

That's what I said. The Wyvern was ready, the matchmaking is the issues. Not a big one imo
But some people think that they're are goind the matckmaking to make it easier to fight the wyvern. That's why I said it's the opposite

[manic shell]

Yeah, still shouldnt release it, it cause confusion and mass false report to anyone who is in icecavern

[cosmic swan]

Well that might be because people misunderstood the message. Pre teaming is allowed to do the Wyvern. Not to kill everyone in the lobby before that

[vapid arch]

its been like that for awhile

[cosmic swan]

Ok, ok never noticed

[lone helm]

is iit true that theres a 125 GS lobby now?

[median crow]

Yes having play in multiple lobbies under 125g is a thing

[lone helm]

thank you!

[cosmic swan]

0-24 / 25-124 / 125+

[unborn spruce]

is game down right now? I am not able to enter from character select

[dark burrow]

Did they get rid of the circle center crpyts map?

[lone helm]

nope, try restarting game?

[gritty breach]

When are they gonna start banning the people buying gold?

[cosmic swan]

Yep there is new way to extract each map and new end game system

[undone steeple]

How is warlock so strong ?

[tiny yew]

What happened to the lava monster? And the ruins map? Haven’t played since those were around

[cosmic swan]

Never have been really nerf since the release of the class. Even got some buff while being op. He got a bit of nerf last week but not on the good build. Imo the class need a rework like https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to or like that #game-discussion message

[solid finch]

warlock is a bit of instant lose if they know what they're doing rn
you can obviously win a few fights, but you're at the disadvantage

[turbid star]

buying gold?

[cosmic swan]

they're is gold farmer who sell gold for real money. And he's asking that people who buy those gold get banned like the people who sell

[turbid star]

ohhh i didnt even know you could buy that shit lol. so he just baiting p2w players to get banned😂

[gritty breach]

Its pretty dang obvious who is doing it.

[strange kestrel]

If there is a market somebody gonna do it lol just like the people who be buying walls and shiz imagine having to pay money to be decent at a game

[gritty breach]

Thats fine. At least make it as painful as possible. It inflates all the items in the game with people buying kits that are BIS. IT ruins it for everyone.

[strange kestrel]

I tend to only buy blues/purps so it ain’t too bad for me but I feel you

[gritty breach]

@strange kestrel Yeah, sadly there is still really good epics and even blues.

[strange kestrel]

I tend to go for phys power and phys damage which can get a bit pricey but if its too much I just search another time lol

[gritty fern]

are there specific merchant quest lines that improve the squires gear when they are completed?

[echo sparrow]

its the affinity that gives you more items

[cosmic swan]

Leathersmith, Tailor, Weaponsmith, armourer (Alchemist for magic weapon and Woodsman for range weapon). The Squire gear can be up to White max

[gritty fern]

nice I'll work on those, thx

[compact cradle]

Anyone know where to find elite frost crossbow skeletons on ice map?

[pastel stirrup]

The quest just include normal

[cosmic swan]

There is only a few of them, focus the room at the south of middle room. You can use that to see exactly where they are https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/IceCavern-01-N

(Choose the marker you need only) And yes, normal crossbow man work too

[compact cradle]

ty

[signal sundial]

Can druids get round shield proficiency please?

-Sincerely a Druid enjoyer

[rapid imp]

yes if they remove stupid rat form

[signal sundial]

What's wrong with rat form? Just throw a torch at them or bottle and bye bye rat

[unborn spruce]

Druid Fix: Remove shapeshift, remove spells/ Add: Axes, shields, shouts and yells.

[timid ember]

Do we have any idea what the timeline for sorcerer's release looks like?

[unborn spruce]

did they stealth remove the 124GS lobby

[vapid arch]

never

[fleet token]

now pls

[glossy scarab]

is shadowplay broken for any1 else in this game?

[grand path]

Boys and girls.. I miss the circle 😦

[nocturne marsh]

I think wizards should have some spells they can cast infinitely

[fleet token]

maybe a base attack based on the casting type could work instead of a melee.

[vapid arch]

you think the most versatile and impactful class should be able to have no down while hitting from range?

[fleet token]

i'd say the spam of bard, cleric and druid in HR trios should tell you something a lil dif

[cosmic swan]

Well versatile and impactful yes but the most not anymore I think. But yes an infinite spell is a bad idea imo. Or a weaker than zap one that you can recharge while walking but that slow you down

[signal sundial]

Or how about a perk for increase spell regen

[cosmic swan]

That's Clarity potion Or the Meditate Skill

[fleet token]

would it be that bad if wiz did have some kind of spam attack similar to warlock or surv bow spam?

[signal sundial]

Overload ignite is beyond painful and clarity is costly

[cosmic swan]

Yes, they used to have a way to regen spell without sitting or being slowed or anything and Wizard was the most broken class

[signal sundial]

Oh true meditate skill derp

[fleet token]

fair play i just see jay having a bad time 90% of the time he plays wiz in high tier pvp and he is a very strong wiz player

[earnest pendant]

is it normal that extraction gates look open But then you walk through and it doesn't extract?

[cosmic swan]

Yep, right now Wiz is bad. But not because he's weak, it's because other class are too strong -> #game-discussion message

@earnest pendant That happen if the exit have already been used (Most of the time the blue torche are off, or theyre is rock on top of the stair)

[earnest pendant]

ty @cosmic swan good to know, I thought it was a bug

[rapid vapor]

A very long time from now. Druid isn't nearly done and they said sorc will take longer than the other two have taken

[fleet token]

thats a fair perspective, devs gotta be careful with this though you can nerf the fun out of a game like tarkov did and kill of the pvp scene. i think they need to rework some of the harder to balance classes/abilities rather than mass nerfs outside of obvious cases like bard and current cleric

[rapid vapor]

I know demonlock was op, but it felt good to have something other than torture mastery and kiting to play

[cosmic swan]

Yep, but Imo he's still good now EXCEPT the 3% every sec. With 1 or 1.5% the Demon would be awesome now imo

[fleet token]

yeah thats kinda what im pointing towards, players feel like they find a class they like it gets over nerfed and they feel like its not fun or worth playing anymore. when that happens a lot people just quit games

[signal sundial]

The 3% is still usable but you need to be way more careful

[rapid vapor]

in my experience people just put away their weapon and run until you drop it. most classes are fast enough to just avoid you while you kill yourself

[signal sundial]

Yeah which is why you got to time it,also to not to forget you can still cast as a demon

[rapid vapor]

you can only cast dark bolt, which is rather avoidable

[unborn spruce]

Demon form is def not worth running at this point.

[signal sundial]

If they are running its easier to land and you only shift into demon right before melee so they are super close

[compact cradle]

how do I release the wendigo trapped in ice in the dividing hill room in ice abyss?

[rapid vapor]

Ice requires something with impact 5 or higher

[jade lake]

how can you tell a rope extraction has been used already? is it when the rope is already visibly up?

[unborn spruce]

yeah rope goes away

[wary eagle]

Anywhere I can send a clip of 2 teams teaming in HR?

[wise kernel]

yoyo community. might as well ask here too, maybe some1 can help

How does luck trigger?

E.g. I'm a bard, I play the song to open chests. Is my luck already triggered and affects loot? Or do I have to click on the chest and see whats in there1

[jade lake]

so if it is not there then it's already gone and i should look for another? i was waiting for maybe 4 minutes resting at a rope and it never came

[compact cradle]

It comes down later in the game but if the game is almost over and it is not there then it has already been taken

[white saffron]

How much ap do ice abys monsters give ?

[rapid vapor]

It affects whatever you open, last I checked no one knows if the opening song will trigger luck

[desert ibex]

Quick question, will Iron mace ever add character customization?

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Monsters#Normal 10 for Elite and 15 for Nightmare for most of the mobs

[stark flint]

It would be weird to have a perk that gives luck and skill to open locks on 1 class and not make them synergy. But again, antimagic should not work only on divine magic, and yet it doesn't on curses and poisons as well. So who knows.

[white saffron]

ty ty, im a bit confsuyed on how to get more ap every run then , that dsoent seem like alot and at most if i go to abys i think i can only clear another 10 ish mobs so only another 100ish ap

[honest estuary]

Failed to Connect to Server. How to fix it ?

[cosmic swan]

Go into the abyss also give 100 free point. So if you clear a few mob and open some chest find some more treasure you can do 300 more point easily

[white saffron]

oh really, shit ty ty will check it out

[dapper flower]

it would be nice to have the option to show the ping ingame (also to open a big map and the current quests on this map)

[wanton mulch]

can you damage the troll from outside the room if someone is inside it?

[cosmic swan]

Nop

@zealous chasm #druid join it here id:customize

[zealous chasm]

? Is there not a Druid Discussion Channel?

[hollow stirrup]

hey returning player the platform linking out?

[keen jackal]

Is there a 25-150gs lobby or is it still 25+ anything goes?

[rapid vapor]

Buy better gear so you can clear faster. On average I cleared 3-4 modules in caverns and 2-3 in abyss. Make sure to stack your inventory with treasure

[white saffron]

is it more worth for better gear ? or bring in bad gear and swap it out, ive been told swapping from greens to blues/puprs u find is better

[cosmic swan]

Yes, open the game on Blacksmith go to setting and you have like a "Linking" tab or something like that. You have all the info there

@keen jackal 0-24 / 25-124 / 125+

[gleaming cedar]

25-124

[zealous chasm]

Too funny, I even searched all channels for Druid, and it returned nothing. Thanks mate.

[hollow stirrup]

yayy so i could play off steam

[keen jackal]

When was that added? Didn’t see it

[drowsy viper]

So what makes the Cave troll change aggro?

[cosmic swan]

Nothing, he do it randomly when he want to. He's meant to be done Solo

@keen jackal They didn't say anything. It was added like 3-4 day ago I guess

[gleaming cedar]

No idea, but apparently, it was added.

[rapid vapor]

Generally yeah, you'll make make more money swapping, but you can make more AP just buying a decent kit and clearing. It's going to depend on how consistent you are at getting out alive though. Like from the start of the season to demi I died like 3 times total so of course I got a lot more out of it by buying kits

[white saffron]

and what kit would u reccomend for a druid? i play on dead servers so i havent died yet

[hollow stirrup]

what class would make the best use of cyclops eye crystal ball? i remember slayer fighter was its best last wipe but i wanted to try crystal bqll falchion warlock but last wipe someone told me it suckss

[nocturne crystal]

Does dagger mastery stack with double dagger on rogue??

[cosmic swan]

No you won't get 30% on your dagger.

[rapid vapor]

Tbh druid just needs a purple strength set to be fine. The random stats don't matter as much because bear scales off strength and you'll have enough damage to kill mobs in 3-4 hits usually. I think my average kit cost was like 3-4k so not too bad

[white saffron]

u bear form mobs too ?

[rapid vapor]

No, the strength scaling alone puts a purple spear to about 120 a hit so you just clear mobs with spear and bear players if you need to

[oblique cave]

longsword parrying other players is so hard

[glossy pagoda]

So guys are people in agreement Druid is to OP? why is it every single class pays through the roof for any movement speed yet naked druids can just insta transform and fly accross rooms at warp speed
how can you get away or fight that?

[rapid vapor]

Yeah but it does nearly 2x the damage

[rapid vapor]

Throw anything at rat form, panther doesn't typically have a lot of health, the only thing probably problematic is bear but you can just walk away from bear form

[glossy pagoda]

okay thats fine but he should not be able to move around like he does he should have some sort of cool down or something
some of the clips ive seen of people flying across the room and insta transforming into a bear is crazy

[rapid vapor]

Why? They have 5 or 6 hp and -100% phys and magic resist when he's in rat form. Unless you mean panther, into chicken which does have a cooldown. Like 30 seconds iirc

[glossy pagoda]

chicken is what they use to fly accross the room not rat

[rapid vapor]

Yeah, panther leap has a cooldown of around 30 seconds. They can't just spam it willy nilly, and yes cooldowns persist even if you change form so transforming into bear doesn't reset it

[white saffron]

they also cant beat any class even rangers in a run up and fight duel, they need to run away to heal up b4 coming back which gives lots of opportunity for others to run or hit druids on the way out, is insta transfomring a bit op? yes but is eh crazy op? no cleric is worse rn imo

[rapid vapor]

Secondly they can't control where they're going. It's a straight line leap, unless there's some crazy new tech I'm not aware of

[glossy pagoda]

good to know there is a cool down ive not tried the class myself but ive seen some bullshit from it lol

[stray mirage]

it is impossible to catch up to druid, they get to only engage when at an advantage, they are OP

[rapid vapor]

I can think of at least 2 other classes that have the ability to choose when to engage

[glossy pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cauAoGOYOoc
skip to 10:53 the 2v3
that leap is just fucked

[white saffron]

yea this would also applie to rouge

[random forum]

Quick question, is spontaneous teaming via VoIP in solos okay or is it bannable? I remember it was a big fuzz around playtest 4 i think. I just picked the game back up after long break.

[rapid vapor]

Warlock and ranger too depending on who you are. There's a lot of classes that look op when you look at them in a vacuum

[white saffron]

its apprently ok via voip

[random forum]

I figure it must be okay since you need 4 people to activate the ice abyss boss?

[rapid vapor]

Spontaneous teaming is okay, pre-teaming is not. There's some special ruling around wyvern until they can change it

[sacred oyster]

what merchant unlocks more clothes for the squire?

[glossy pagoda]

thats good to know i should of reported the chinese quad team me and my mate god rinsed by the other night then haha

[rapid vapor]

Depends on what you need. Tailor for cloth, leather Smith for leather, and armorer for plate/chain. Obviously you'll probably want to level them all

[glossy pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cauAoGOYOoc
skip to 10:53 the 2v3
This is the leap i feel is OP tho i just cant understand why any other class pays for movement speed but druid is free. isnt it OP enough they dont have to wait for any doors and can just run off through little rat holes and what not?

[grim parrot]

Why are longsword parries so busted atm? It's not even 50/50 success rate. The mob swings through the sword. Almost no point in using it if the mobs ignore your blocks and attack right through.

[meager ridge]

If with same character I get to demigod in solo and duo will I get twice the rewards too?

[rapid vapor]

You'll get item rewards twice but not account wide ones like cosmetics

[meager ridge]

Thanks

[rapid vapor]

Unless you sent the wrong link he ran at them in rat form not the chicken stuff. Also like I said I think a properly kitted bear is probably problematic. But without even knowing what they had he still nearly died, even with that frontliner missing his first two swings(bears hitbox breaks a bit when you do that overhead attack)

[lyric maple]

Huh. I didn't know they started doing item rewards. Is it only if you reach demigod?

[glossy pagoda]

https://youtu.be/cauAoGOYOoc?t=688 sorry okay i copied link at time try that one
its panther to chicken to bear

[rapid vapor]

No, usually the first 2 or 3 ranks are things like gold bags and potions and stuff

[lyric maple]

Gonna have to start pushing HR then. Was wondering if there was a benefit (outside of the actual loot) to running HR

I've got a LONG way to go though. Lol

[rapid vapor]

Yeah, that has a 30 second ish cooldown, you're also stuck moving in a straight line. The cleric actually was almost fine if he had backed up to the door sooner

[glossy pagoda]

im glad there is a cool down

[signal sundial]

Kitted bear can one shot overheard but getting in range can be tricky, any fast character can super punish bear form. Every time I run it a bard with rapier mastery gets me

[rapid vapor]

Yeah, not to mention if they move to where the overhead can't hit you or you cant fit it can get really awkward

[signal sundial]

Yup, which is why cat form druid is preferred for pvp but it's super squishy

[jade lake]

what shifts an item from 'looted' to handled? trying to find blue weapons for weaponsmith quest
is there any easy way to farm blue weapons @rapid vapor

[rapid vapor]

Bringing it into a dungeon or trading it turns it into handled

[fresh saddle]

Ice caves pyramid room always has a blue weapon at the top

[rapid vapor]

Ice caves pyramid has a guaranteed blue, there's a few weapon spawns in Goblin caves that has slightly higher than average blue chances, inferno can spawn a blue in the room that's the skull key room in HR

[wise mauve]

Question, how does faithfulness work?

[waxen wadi]

I have a question about ray of darkness. It claims in the desc to do 12(1.0)% damage per second, but when I hit a dummy it only does 2 damage (a lot of times). When I scaled my magic damage, these 2's never went up, when I had max souls they still never went up. How does the damage stacking work? or does it even work?

Also if the damage stacking only adds more 2's, then isn't a cleric just immune to the spell as a whole if they take the perseverance perk?

[zealous chasm]

GC Norms - met two players, both very nice, neither pvp'd.
Collected Rocks, easy escape.
State of the Game = Good

[winged hazel]

if anyone is confused about lockpicking like I was .. its bound to ur jump button.. i rebound mine to C and my lockpick hotkey is C too ..

[rocky tundra]

Anyone else here thinking that creep could use like a counter balance in knowledge or something... like 15 knowledge would let you hear enemies crouch walking within like 6ft of you

[narrow dock]

I'm experiencing significantly more stuttering today. Anyone else?

[rocky tundra]

It's been pretty bad since last emergency patch

[chilly helm]

anyone else getting tons of crashes in inventory? made a ticket 2 weeks ago with no reply

[gusty quest]

stuttering how. my traders wont take items on sale page for like 10 seconds and also hits arent registering for me in game

[zealous chasm]

No.
Creep is fine the way it is.
NPCs can still detect you, so it's only limited to players.

[cosmic swan]

Imo creep is fine the issues is the Hide (and the combo of Hide, creep and Stealth) There is a really good suggestion of rework that could replace the Hide build, take a look and upvote it if you like the idea https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[grizzled obsidian]

I have this error when I start the game.
an error has occurred. code: 20
how to fix?

[cosmic swan]

You can try to open a ticket here #discord-help

[split helm]

servers down?

[hushed spear]

yeah

[vagrant furnace]

smh on my exemplar 2 game kill meeeee

[zealous chasm]

You are now talking about ANOTHER nerf to the Rogue, it's been nerfed enough, it's almost unplayable, like the wizard.
The Rogue needs more tools: Rogues should definately have the ability to set poison traps, use short bows, and eat biscuits like the Ranger.

[scenic marsh]

game says current region unavailable to anyone else?

[analog yoke]

yes

[grim pond]

bruh servers down?

[analog yoke]

US East seems to be

[naive lichen]

East is down

[austere portal]

Is there a way to change server regions? I'm on west and it is down

[static glade]

is west up?

[simple sapphire]

Why’d they ruin the game and remove the blue portals and closing circle?

[naive lichen]

I’m in one on west

[cosmic swan]

No that's not a nerf, it's a rework. The Hide build is hated by everyone or suck. It can be balanced, it's either you one shot the guy or get killed before you have killed him. That's why I think it should be change to something else. Also a Debuff/control rogue would be way more interessting in duo and trio imo where the rogue is the worst right now. So yes that not a nerf https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[frail mesa]

you can play west

[robust iris]

US East is down. West is open

[zealous chasm]

? What?
They did not. There are still portals on every map, usually grouped in 3 together for teams.
Other escapes are in different forms, multi lifts, rafts, etc.

[simple sapphire]

Ok then what about the closing circle?

[umbral nacelle]

why is nae servers down

[austere portal]

Is there a way to change which server you're on?

[cosmic swan]

About the circle they removed it because #q-and-a message And that a good thing there is way more interessting thing to do than the circle (Like the suggestion in the message)

[simple sapphire]

The storm was the whole point, without it there’s nothing pushing teams into each other. You can just play it like a pve game now

[cosmic swan]

Yes that's the point, read #q-and-a message and what I said again. Yes right now nothing "force" you to PvP but that's how the game should be. But I agree that it lack of Point of interest where people can look for both PvE and PvP

[blazing bear]

How to start fight with wendigo? He is hiding on top of the roof and another one traped in ice.

[zealous chasm]

That maybe true, but new players don't want to pvp, they want to get gear and level up.
PvP in trios is where the action is, it's crazy fast and furious.
Solo PvP is meh.

[subtle robin]

what is the gear score difference now before you go to higher geared players? 25-??

[vapid arch]

124

[kind shale]

Does anyone know when the next set of quests drop?

[cosmic swan]

Probably soon like 1-2 day

[twilit sail]

Thursday

[rocky tundra]

NPCs detecting a creep rogue is a useless point. Half the time the mobs are cleared and it's just you vs ol rogue boy. Now in this case I'm just wondering of some kind of counter to high tier creep gameplay keeping you worried to shit in solos of a landmine. It's no fun losing a bunch of AP points because you played defensively and stopped a guy who CLEARLY targeted you from the lobby. Hell the dude did everything he could to get at my PDR fighter. Even dragged like a dozen mobs to try and get me killed at one point. And the whole match just felt like....piss poor. I almost everything right besides kill that little rat and lost like 400 AP points. TRYING TO GET DEMIGOD HERE lol

Litterally spent most of a ice caves match swinging into the dark landing one shot on mr 107% mvspeed just for him to reset and creep behind some doors hoping to landmine me.

Christ I hope he died to mobs 😛

[sacred oyster]

What questline unlocks the Occultist clothes?

[tidal kelp]

Do we know what class is supposed to be developed next? If druid is an indication it won't be for another 2 years but I'm hoping they do sorcerer next.

[rocky tundra]

With wizard feeling as bad as it does now. I dunno bout that. Druid mobility is nuts

[nova mauve]

@umbral nacelle are you getting server region unreachable as well?

[tidal kelp]

Didn't they say something about a rework of almost all of the perks in the game at some point?

[hushed fog]

i want a necromancer

[umbral nacelle]

yuea but naw seems just fine im playing on it rn

[stuck sage]

rogue is good rn what you on about lil bro

[nova mauve]

@rocky tundra I hope wizard gets some touch ups speaking on that topic

[tidal kelp]

rogue op right now

[stuck sage]

only really in solos but it will always be op as long as invis exists as it is

[cosmic swan]

I wont say OP (except maybe in solo) but he's good. And the Invis is too good in solo but not that much in duo/trio. That's why I was talking about reworking it https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons That would be so much more interessting than the landmine rogue

[tidal kelp]

bruh, a similarly geared rogue is 3 tapping full plate fighters and clerics. How do you counter that? You miss a single swing and you're dead and it's a close fight if you don't.

[rocky tundra]

Yeah I agree. They have no real turn around potential and it's super obvious after druid release

[fresh estuary]

how do you report bot that sell hack and gold in the halls?

[cosmic swan]

#in-game-reports I guess or #discord-help

[tidal kelp]

Wizard should have gotten dreamwalk lol

[iron sleet]

Oil lanterns.

[rocky tundra]

Look. I'm not asking to nerf rogue into the dirt. I'm just looking for potential counters to creep in particular besides swining in the dark. If I would have landed a second shot on that sneaky little rat which was hunting me down he would have folded and I would have danced on his corpse.

[glossy scarab]

wizard needs more defensive spells, stuff that lasts a long time, like mage armor or shield from dungeons and dragons
or mirror image

[rocky tundra]

Or even get rid of the after image for wizards would prolly help

[iron sleet]

Mages have 2 damage shields and Ice Armor - Have you tried a bonk mage?

[nova mauve]

@glossy scarab i feel like wizard just needs to be more footed as a "wizard" and be able to use spells for both pve and pvp, and possibly have an extra movement based spell or two. not reliant on melee and staff bonking for 90% of pve then only using spells in pvp.

[cosmic swan]

The best thing would that they add that kind of stuff to wizard when they release the Sorcerer. The wizard is meant to be a magic support with some damage spell. Right now he's played like a Sorcerer

[tidal kelp]

ah yes, the slowest action speed class needs to swap to a utility item and throw it to deal 10 damage to a rogue that proceeds to 3 hit kill them. Rogue needs nerfed, the point of the changes at the wipe was to increase TTK and somehow rogues are back to 2-3 tapping people.

[rough silo]

because of ppl like you?

[rocky tundra]

Have you seen Kenkenobis video where he was talking about rogues and solos? He was playing bonk wizard and was talking about how cut throat rogues own him. Seconds later he dies to a landmine rogue 😛

[tidal kelp]

Landmine shouldn't be possible if their goal was to increase TTK. Ambush should give an advantage but shouldn't instant-win the fight.

[rocky tundra]

I'm saying keep the damage high. We just need some kinda counter to creep in solos. I can't fill my inv with fire bottles and throw them into every door i open -_-

[cosmic swan]

Again, imo they should replace the invis/landmine build by a debuff/control rogue build like this https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[tidal kelp]

No, damage needs nerfed. Too much pen available to rogues is bad.

[iron sleet]

Warlocks can summon hydras into every door they open - That detects invis

[glossy scarab]

having the defensives as skills messes up 10 spell, they need to be spells, because wizards cast spells

[rocky tundra]

HYDRA TROLLS.

[ancient summit]

no it does not?

[subtle heart]

why didnt DaD get more ads for their game ;p who is dungeon made by? they have their stuff on twitch , drops etc. events and such, it would help DaD so much

[nova mauve]

they could give wizard a teleport with the range of thunderstrike with like 2 casts to help them in fights

[tidal kelp]

We already had too much true damage last wipe and people agreed it was bad, so they add more to rogues after reducing the true rolls?

[iron sleet]

Yes it will shoot at an invis rogue - Not take them out of stealth but alert you of their presence

[rocky tundra]

Oh hey look imma warlock and I think i'm safe. Duuuuurrrrrr HYDRA GO. WHY ARE YOU SHOOTING A CHEST HYDRA?!?!?!

[cosmic swan]

Yes it does Hydra actually see invisible people and shoot at them while invis same for the Light orb wizard spell, it detect invisible rogue

@tidal kelp I agree but pls don't buff Warlock any more xD

[ancient summit]

really? huh, no shit. gonna use this tech then, never knew.

[tidal kelp]

Hydra bolts should travel faster

[iron sleet]

Because that chest is a mimic....

[true bolt]

how do u make cobalt cloth armor?

[nova mauve]

they should have just gave warlock a reanimate corpse spell 🤣

[rocky tundra]

Proceeds to die to a cutthroat rogue with creep and invis move perk. Hydra being a solution for invis rogues is a timmy solution

[tidal kelp]

Rogues don't hide for stealth, they do it to proc ambush damage

[iron sleet]

Wizards Light orb literally brings rogues Out of stealth. In a wide area. Can cast that through every door as well

[true bolt]

help plz?

[rocky tundra]

You're missing the context of what I said..... And you can't cast light orb when rogues are running cut throat. You'll be dead before you even select the spell you can't cast

[nova mauve]

I made a meme 50 knowledge /cast speed wizard build, its pretty gnarly with spell overload and meditation

[cosmic swan]

You need to do quest for the Leathersmith, tailor or armourer. That unlock craft

[iron sleet]

Whys that? Are you INSIDE of the door when you open it, or max range?

[muted imp]

wait until you see my knowledge barb build

[nova mauve]

@muted imp may I ask why knowledge on barb?

[fresh estuary]

thanks

[rocky tundra]

I'm looking for a COUNTER to CREEP gameplay when you're not playing maybe the worst class in solos right now

[muted imp]

invis pots

[iron sleet]

There was a time when EVERY class had "Creep" -- What did you do then?

[kind shale]

Do we have confirmation of any kind of what frostone ore will be used for?

[cosmic swan]

There is no real counter. That's why people hate the invis build so much. It can't be balance because it's either you die before getting a kill or one shot your enemies. That why they should rework rogue and replace the invis https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[nova mauve]

It would be nice if they just added a basic spammable spell that has low scaling with infinite charges for wizard to use in pve, and a back up in pvp if you run out of charges.

[spare elbow]

Prolly frosty armor or frosty weapons

[kind shale]

I was wondering if they would use it to make a legendary version of the weapons created with gold ore. For example a legendary Void Blade. Might be nice

[true bolt]

thank you

[rocky tundra]

Also rogues can move while invis. So cast your light orb after opening a door buddy. You reveal him, turns out he's already on top of you cut throating and shanking you. I don't see what your point is here. You're making lame attempts to counter argument but you're missing the entire point. I'm not talking about before. I'm talking about now.

[spare elbow]

Youre also kind of looking at the problem wrong. Wiz is considered pretty weak right now so playing it solo is close to a death sentence

[rocky tundra]

And I do agree with that. I think the invis thing is really tricky to balance...But it's like core gameplay for rogues and even wiz too

[cosmic swan]

I understand why people ask for that but it's not a good idea imo. 1st if it's worst than Zap (and it have to be or it make no sense) then it'll be faster to kill mob by hitting them with the staff. Second if the spell is too strong or can proc true/add damage then it'll be broken. We already got wizard who can recharge spell without sitting in the past and it was broken

[formal oracle]

i started having unplayable stuttering last night and its still happening today, are the servers borked or something

[rocky tundra]

I'm not the one with the wizard issues. This fool is trying to state that hydras and light orbs are direct counters to invis rogues. Not in solos it isn't!

[stuck sage]

warlock doesnt really have a problem with rogue

[cosmic swan]

depend if he have cut throat or not

[stuck sage]

i mean i guess but then he gives up his ability to deal with plate

[rocky tundra]

Who is even running 10 spell wizard right now? Hydra constantly trolls you. and a warlock who isn't afraid of landmine rogues hasn't ran into one who took your BIS

[nova mauve]

@cosmic swan yea I get that, i just wish there was a way to get it to be more like a traditional wizard that casts spells for everything.

[spare elbow]

Unfortunately unless they balance solo duo and trio each individually the game will never be balanced in all three at the same time

[rocky tundra]

Plate warlock. I've only ran into one who was really rocking a nasty build. Everyone else has kinda folded

[iron sleet]

I was just asking you questions lol. I genuinely wanted to know if you played when everyone had creep and wonder what you did

[glacial ice]

Anyone know why east servers are down?

[cosmic swan]

Yep and the game is balanced for Trio

[stuck sage]

plate in general not warlock plate. if you see a geared rogue in your lobby you should be playing around it until you know where he is in the first place once you get him out of stealth and unable to shut 10 doors its a pretty easy kill

[rocky tundra]

I was part of the "problem" then. I was mainly running rogue when I first started to play just to get the mechanics of the game down and map knowledge. Back in the days of the REAL landmine rogue meta. Before the barb W key meta 😛

[iron sleet]

👍

[cosmic swan]

Always have been and probably always be. That's why rogue is so strong in solo. Because in trio he's not that good. And the Invis build will never be balanced imo

[iron sleet]

Rogues finally feel relevent. And to me its nice that they are the counters to the casters. What else counters a max speed phantom curse warlock - I dont even play rogue really. Im a fighter

[rocky tundra]

High tier creep gameplay can be rough vs your plate gear. That's litterally how this conversation started for me. I spent a whole match having to play defensively from a rogue who called me out in the lobby. Spent the whole match trying to get me killed. So I almost got him a couple times. and besides kill him I feel like I played a great game. Lost like 400-500 AP points and was irritated at that.

[wide maple]

i just had a game where as soon as i loaded in there were about 10 goblins in front of me, then i left room to find as the door opened a train of about 10 more goblins marching single file. who then just focus on me, while the 10 from the previous room also just targeted me. then while trying to run and pick fights a yeti appeared to just bash my head in....wtf was that

[iron sleet]

Homie was Tagged and Cursed in Dark and Darker hahhaa

[rocky tundra]

There are no yetis in the goblin caves!!!!

[wide maple]

i think it was frost mountain map.

[iron sleet]

but ehre ARE goblins in the ice caves. They are just called Kobald

[sleek kraken]

they would be kobolds, by the way

[spare elbow]

Never seen 10 goblins pull on me for no reason, all the spawns should be safe from agro until you move a bit. Then at most you agro 2-3 on the worst spawns. The second train of mobs was presumably an enemy training them either because they were scared or to intentionally drop on someone.

[sleek kraken]

when the kobolds yell and stomp their feet, they're calling for other kobolds in the area. This includes vertical levels, so they aggro a bunch all at once if you dont kill them before their yell stops
I know exactly the room you were in, and theres a yeti on the bottom floor as well as 8 kobolds

[rocky tundra]

THAT'S RACIST!!!! lol

[wide maple]

@spare elbow possibly but idk i didnt see anyone in the next room, and i didnt do anything to provoke first group. i loaded in, saw them and took the door that was 3 feet from me.

also are the us east servers down for anyone else?

[hasty cobalt]

US east down?

[cosmic swan]

You'r talkin of Kobold. When you hit one and he do the little scream and stomp animation he call for help and all the other kobold around start to aggro you. It can attract kobolds in other room

@sleek kraken Sry i didn't see that's exactly what you said xD

Actually the aggro happen at the beginning of the scream. You need to kill them right after they attack so they don't scream at all

[wide maple]

when i try to start game is tells me server is unavailable. i can switch to west coast but thats also where i got murdered instantly at spawn

@cosmic swan yeah, i eventually did hit one, they must have screamed, but i cant recall if they did or not. just was wild to load in to see and have that happen so fast

[unreal obsidian]

how do you get the wyvern out of the ice in frost caves.. without fireball

[sleek kraken]

@wide maple one at a time while learning, pull them back to your spawn or areas you've cleared

@unreal obsidian four people to stand in front of the beams to start the fight (yes, you cant queue four people, yes its silly)

[unreal obsidian]

sorry, not wyvern.. meant windigo whoops

[jagged basalt]

you have to have weapon big enough to break ice3

[wind venture]

They need to redo the rogue class man. Landmine rogue is just, as always, and will forever be. The most UNFUN way to die in this game man.

[jagged basalt]

is game down? servers wont let me join

[azure socket]

telling a problem without proposing a solution is just complaining , what do you suggest? not so easy huh?

[wind venture]

@azure socketliterally ANYTHING besides nuking someone from invis to 0 without able to counter it.

[cosmic swan]

You're too late we just ended that conversation xD Yes Landmine should be remove because it can't be balance (It's either you one shot or die before a kill) There is a good suggestion that could replace the Hide build Upvote if you like https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons @azure socket

[unreal obsidian]

was afraid of that.. thanks

[sleek kraken]

Your wish is granted. Rogues now move at 350ms base, and have infinite crossbow bolts with poison weapon baseline.

[rocky tundra]

I love this game...I litterally just jumped on to make sure my auctions were doing ok and made 4k. listed a bunch of other half BIS and will jump back on tonight to make the grind to demigod. Should prolly hit it tonight with my fighter

[jagged basalt]

sooo servers are or arent down

[wind venture]

@sleek krakenIll take that over going from 100%-0% within a second

[bright horizon]

is NAeast out?

[cosmic swan]

I swear you don't want that. We tried it in the past, it's horrible. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons That's a good alternative

[jagged basalt]

thanks mack it did work

[bright horizon]

ok

[short pendant]

if im party leader and i have vip but my other party members dont, can we still do high rollers?

[bright horizon]

i hope its back soon. i am full east coast XD

[sleek kraken]

no

[cosmic swan]

Nop

[short pendant]

ahh unfortunte. cant bless the less fortunate

(im the less fortunate)

[trail ingot]

Guys, can i still link my old blacksmith account to Steam , i have a purchased coppy of the game

[jagged basalt]

yes easily linked

[sleek kraken]

should be able to, just gotta launch it on blacksmith, open up the options and get the code there to put in the steam account

[trail ingot]

thanks

[worn dune]

Is NA east fixed yet

[verbal trail]

what are we thinking the best solo class is right now?

[jagged basalt]

druid is best solo class by 10x

[stark flint]

Cleric is really strong atm. Probably will be nerfed. If not rip.

[bright horizon]

i have mainly played ranger and havent pvped fully yet. as i am mostly trying to find gear and and get gold

[verbal trail]

I like Cleric.. seem to get smashed by ranged tho

[bright horizon]

i've had so many clerics and barbs sneak up on me its not funny.

[jagged basalt]

id pay the devs for a cleric nerf

[swift ether]

No everyone must have it

[loud bay]

which dagger has the longest range? i'm having trouble getting myself close enough to make contact

[brazen prism]

can u craft anything with cyclops rags

[azure socket]

kris dagger

[loud bay]

nice, thx. it'll be good to have that as my secondary for when i'm struggling with a shorter primary.

[violet pelican]

How many ways are there down to the Ice Abyss? The only rooms that I know go down are "Hut C" and "Hive". Are there others, maybe on the other side of the map?

[azure socket]

which perks are you using? some give movespeed which helps a lot

[celest rock]

Will the mission with sacrifices be finally removed?

[azure socket]

sacrifices? just kill your teammate and revive him , one of the easiest quest

[celest rock]

i have no friends

[azure socket]

we can be friends ❤️

[cold spire]

[prime sonnet]

for the quest golden dreams do the golden keys need to be "looted"

[lone garnet]

What if we could sacrifice someone's soul for a different purpose 🤔

[verbal trail]

will ruins ever come back as a map?

[hasty valley]

please nerf this stupid cleric + cleric dogshait combo already

[chilly viper]

us east out?

[radiant herald]

east coast server down?

[bright horizon]

yeah its haveiong issues

[loud bay]

mostly stealth based stuff to make it easy to disengage. pickpocket, but i don't really pvp yet so that's just to hide pots. probably not worth it in place of, say, move speed or dagger damage.

[azure socket]

nop, you can buy them , thats why they are expensive now 😄 but to be fair you can get them from quest

[latent briar]

can pm? i cant,i give u pic

[ionic phoenix]

bruh i'm new here but it seems like the servers are always havin issues

[azure socket]

best investmen as a rogue is blue lightfoot boots , go above 105 movespeed and see how game turns into easy mode

[latent briar]

past 3 weeks,I had literally zero server issuses exlucing maintance

[wanton otter]

remove gear checking

[dense quest]

Do nightmare crossbowman actually do multiple hits in a row now?????

[loud bay]

nice, will check it out, thx for the tip

[primal steeple]

okay so im sitting here beating this cyclops ass the entire time on my own and this dude shows up and joins in after the second rock fall phase and he ends up getting last hit. I dont get any credit for killing that boss even tho I took over 75% of his HP on my own?? yea this games a joke and a half

[zinc moat]

remove cleric

[ionic phoenix]

what makes cleric so op?

[primal steeple]

cleric main spotted lmfao nice bait

[zinc moat]

ikr, guy hasn't been playing this wipe or something

[azure socket]

can show you ingame if you want just PM me

[ionic phoenix]

Its like I'm new or something.... crazy idea right?

[primal steeple]

unless this is your first day playing I have no sympathy

[ionic phoenix]

Bro you've been playing this game for so long you forget what its like to be new...

[zinc moat]

oh he actually is mb bro, just go faithfulness build and you'll understand, it's probably the worse any class has been to face since landmine rogue imo

[latent briar]

have u played wow ever?

[primal steeple]

no I have a very good idea what its like to be new. ive been teaching all my noob friends. I just didnt expect you to be worse than that but here we are 🙂

[mental latch]

Why Ironmace? Why US East Server down? Me took day off. Wanted to explore deep caves. Wanted to kill many goblins. Now me sit here, sad. Why you torment me so? Server down, me no play. Me wait long time. Me want adventure. Me want fight goblins. Me want find treasure in dark cave. But now, me only stare at screen. Me no understand. Why Ironmace? Why? Server should work. Server should be strong. But now, server weak. Server no work. Me heart hurt. Me want to swing big club. Me want to bash goblin heads. But now, me can do nothing. Me sit and wait. Why you do this to me, Ironmace? Why?

[cold spire]

i actually got sad reading that :(

[ionic phoenix]

Yung sweet - bro you're a loser. Imagine being such a condescending wa** to someone who is new to your community. What a great first impression you're making for the community.

Its like going to a skate park for the first time and some no life starts attacking you because you can hardly ride

[loud bay]

i won't be playing for a while but i appreciate it

[median light]

I'm not leveling up is anyone also experiencing this? I've played 2 matches and am still level 19

[gleaming cedar]

" Waaah, waaah. I can no longer w-key and m1 button to get a free loot pinata. Waah, waaah. "

[hexed oracle]

Is there an angle where we could Craft Common Rings only giving +1 stat?? That would be lovely ❤️ Capes with Cloth aswell ❤️

[cosmic swan]

Maybe one day, you can make a suggestion of that on the website https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

[hexed oracle]

Thank you mucho, I been searching several times a way to send suggestions through Discord, I actually remember this website's interface damn

[turbid pine]

which map has the most pvp? I've heard some say Ice map, others Goblin caves
(solos, if it matters)

[worn arrow]

Gc. Especially if youre playing HR, its a shit map for ap grinding so ppl actually pvp. Also it has some real PoIs that people go to.

[errant cedar]

so i tried dark and darker again after quitting the game for some time and I am really having fun doing the quests in normals but as soon as i entered highroller it was like i traveled back in time where my cheeks are just getting clapped by some sweaty basement gamers how are doing nothing else than playing DaD, shitting and screaming at their mom that they want food - @zinc sparrow why the hell are you putting me who enters highroller for the first time since a while and who has not played a single highroller game this season in the same lobby with players who are pathfinder and who have BIS in every Slot - just say it that you dont want anyone to play this game and just say that you want to spit in the face of the people who bought the legendary edition after enjoying low roller

[neat thistle]

best way to approach pvp as a druid. whats the strat gents

[gleaming cedar]

Rat.

[neat thistle]

All highroller queues are together, Just dont roll into highroller with baby starter gear 4head

[ocean shore]

Anyone else eat a perma ban for cheating after you definitely didn't cheat? I've tried submitting a bug report and a ban appeal and I've gotten nothing back after days.

[turbid pine]

There are some skins that were obtainable through high roller in the past that can't currently be bought in the store right?
I think I saw like a frozen mummy

[spare elbow]

Indeed

[neat thistle]

yeah season reward stuff

[compact shard]

So is warlock like a hard counter to ranger or something, stg i can never get a kill on them
only class ive died to in like 2 days

[turbid pine]

Are there any plans to eventually make them purchasable? (And do any of them have stat changes/race buffs that aren't found on the purchasable ones)

[cosmic swan]

I feel you. They removed Gear scord matchmaking in HR this season and focus on pleasing all the new/free player for now. I understand that but imo they're doing it too much and neglects old/paying player. Unfortunately we can't make too many gearscore matchmaking braket due to the too low number of player. Imo they should make the Normal mode lock to common gear like it used to and do 3 bracket of gearscore in HR only. Grey to Green/Blue (with one or 2 blue piece) -> Green/Blue to Blue/Purple (With 1 or 2 purple piece) -> And everything above that. Assume that new free player have to buy the game if they want to play the full game and use gear. But too many people will cry if they do that now imo

[dusty pendant]

ranger hard counter to warlock

[compact shard]

weird. i play solo ranger a ton and warlock feels like the only class i lose to (except avoiding pdr fighters)

[dusty pendant]

you outrange them by default

[storm stratus]

Does the crystal sword boost magic spell damage or just meele magical dmg?

[cosmic swan]

Well ranger is supposed to be a Warlock counter and actually is if the warlock greed to much. But if they play safe or hard rush you then it can be hard because right now Warlock is broken

@storm stratus Just melee damage

[compact shard]

yeah its usually in gobo caves. im sure theyre also outplaying me but it feels like ill land 3-4 hits and they just heal up throughout the fight

[stable urchin]

@turbid pine idk if they will be purhcasable, they are all rlly cool i have the mummy and frost archer, but the buffs they give arent worth them selling them in the future i think. there are a few emotes as well that were given out for old player

[gleaming cedar]

White gear on normal mode is bad, because you get green and blue from there, which you can't use unless you go to high roller.

That, in of itself, by itself, makes a humongous backlog of green and blue gear in the AH.

[storm stratus]

What is the point of the crystal sword then, it has a weird casting animation that can fail, it doesn't boost spell damage and is a 2hander. I dont get it

[dusty pendant]

clear mobs the on hit magic dmg scales with magic power and aditional magi dmg

[gleaming cedar]

Suppose you are warlock, and you use BoC on it. The two magical damages are gonna be counted separately, and calculated separately.

[cosmic swan]

Yes that's the point. HR is the main game mode. It's the place where you are supposed to use your gear (and with gear score it's really fine). We used to have Common gear only last season in normal and it was really good a lot of people liked it.

[storm stratus]

I am a meele flamewalker warlock monkey was thinking if it would be useful for a meele phantomize/fire charge but idk maybe with gear

[gleaming cedar]

I will PM you a strat. @storm stratus

[stable urchin]

@dusty pendant you use the crystal sword and build magic damage, plus magic pen, damage and power will all increase the damage dealt by the magic portion of the swords damage

[rapid vapor]

is USEast down?

[stable urchin]

@rapid vapor yup yup no words yet from devs but it is down

[hushed spear]

it's still down? bruh lmao

it's been hours

[neat thistle]

play on another server?

[rapid vapor]

i would but the other servers are so laggy i'll just die doing anything

[vagrant furnace]

WHERE IS MY SERVERS

[hushed spear]

guys my ping isn't that good

"erm are you sure youre on the right server???"

[rapid vapor]

literally had that happen last night. told a guy i can solo cyclops, died to it and asked what server we're on and it was US West

[neat thistle]

Not what I said at all, I just suggested they try another server.

[vagrant furnace]

Wish IM would let me know East is going down, I'd prefer to be wearing lipstick before I get FCKED

[wanton otter]

why tf are ranked rewards hidden if ranked is currently active??

[hushed spear]

yeah im saying that's whatll happen if you do try another server

what's even funnier is the message right above mentioning the wrong server trashing their ping

[pliant kite]

but people complaining about ping probably aren't on the wrong server oon purpose

[ebon jungle]

anybody know which room is death alter?

[rapid vapor]

they don't usually have them finalized until about half way through the season or something

[neat thistle]

Ah sorry for misunderstanding.

[cosmic swan]

Because they always release them later on the season. They're probably working on them

[hushed spear]

top middle of Inferno 02

[ebon jungle]

thanks so much

[hushed spear]

speaking of inferno; spawning in Demon Mouth is actual pain when you get like 3 nightmare bats immediately on your ass

[ebon jungle]

literally the only thing that kills me in inferno

[subtle heart]

anybody mind helping me out , just wondering what is a good base build for cleric as far as spells and perks / trios

[rapid vapor]

for solo or for duos/trios

[cosmic swan]

You can join the Cleric channel here id:customize and ask them

[neat thistle]

Does treant damage scale to will?

[subtle heart]

found it thanks

[cosmic swan]

No

And No

[neat thistle]

Does it scale to anything? word ty

Does every spell have its own recovery cost when resting? or are they all back on the same tickrate

[sly stag]

every spell got his own

[warped cypress]

my game will only stay open for about 10 minutes n crashes. just integ checked and still doing it, any suggestions?

[cosmic swan]

Either, start the game as admin, reduce your graphic setting, try to add -dx11 in the start up option. If nothing work #discord-help

[gleaming cedar]

Try running in dx11?

[wanton otter]

My current rank is showing up as Gray even though I'm purpl rank rn. :/

[austere flame]

east coast servers down?

[cosmic swan]

Too bad, you need to grind from the start again

[fallen sphinx]

East cost servers unavailable for me too

[gleaming cedar]

They meant an entirely different thing, but meh.

[simple sparrow]

Pretty new to this game, and I am wondering if you can block daggers with the long sword?

[pliant kite]

you can, it's not smart tho
Riposte time is also minimal

[teal oyster]

guys how do I get in same lobby with friends to do frost wyvern?

[cosmic swan]

You can but it's hard and better to hit. Most of the time if he have a rapier then it's a class with low HP so better to hit

[simple sparrow]

Thanks for the advice

[cosmic swan]

Well pre teaming is allowed for the wyvern but we won't make a tutorial on how to pre team (at least I won't sry)

[chilly viper]

how do you not get hit by the falling rocks on cyclops

[deft sonnet]

You jump crouch a bit before the rocks start falling

Totally intuitive game design

Rocks are falling, who needs to avoid them? Theyre obviously just creating a floor shockwave, jump into em and you'll be fine!

[pliant kite]

jump crouch on pray.
The floor shockwave is pretty easibly avoidable.
The rocks themselfs are rng.

[teal oyster]

well then how do you do the wyvern

[nocturne dirge]

@ionic phoenix Damn bro, I just read the cringe the other guy wrote, ur 100% right

[cosmic swan]

FInd by yourself how to pre team

[teal oyster]

Where do I find this out

[undone garden]

do the games have to be high roller for the goblin merchant 'Gamba' quest?

[cosmic swan]

By trying thing you can do it there is not a lot of way

[quaint scaffold]

@cosmic swan u dont know how to do it

[tidal plover]

Ask people in discord to help you then accidentally Que into gobo caves with 9 dudes

[simple sparrow]

Can anyone tell me what I am supposed to do with silver coins? I have almost 3 piles of it sitting in my stash...

[spice pier]

turn it into silver ingots

[gleaming cedar]

You can turn them into gold coins, 3 for 1, turn them into silver powder, to craft silver weapons, or silver ignots, to craft stronger silver weapons.

[simple sparrow]

Thanks, will figure out how to do that

[spice pier]

do you need higher affinity to craft higher rarity weapons?

[spare elbow]

Also you need them for a quest at some point, i think 100 are needed

[undone belfry]

US east down?

[acoustic meadow]

yuh

[wind venture]

I sold an item for 12k... I dont have space for20k gold

[pliant umbra]

So if druid goes into ghost form right as he starts an attack, the attack still hits. Very nice

[gleaming cedar]

Yes

[dire cedar]

even a steam release can't save us now

[gleaming cedar]

Suffering from success.

[glossy scarab]

can you damage ghost king during feast?
if hes succing a target

[wind venture]

Is there a quest to turn in a troll pelt?

[cosmic swan]

Nop, as long as he have the blue shield you can't damage him

[storm goblet]

FIX YOURE SERVRES OR ELSE I GET MAD

[cosmic swan]

If you play druid you can summon a treant in front of him, he'll start sucking it and if you kill the treant it'll end the suck phase so you can him again. I don't know if that work too with hydra

[latent briar]

do udeal more dmg as warlock if you parry with 2handed?

[cosmic swan]

? you mean does the riposte attack of the longsword deal more damage than a normal hit? Then yes it 1.8 time the damage of a hit

[foggy oracle]

longsword counterattacks do double damage of their usual if thats what you mean

[azure socket]

false , only 180%

[spare elbow]

“Only”

[cosmic swan]

xD

[foggy oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

[latent briar]

I mean feelsbad that a plate gets 2 tapped by a melee warlock but must be skill issue

[white saffron]

top 3 classes to solo both gc bosses ?

[foggy oracle]

balance kinda sucks rn ngl

[cosmic swan]

Warlock, Bard, Rogue (The true 1st is Fighter longsword but the strat is hella hard)

[faint trellis]

"server region currently unavaliable" anybody else having that problem

[cosmic swan]

Yep try playing on another server, like the other US server work

[worldly wave]

not sure if this the best place/right place to post but tryng to learn solo bossin and troll just has it out for me. whenever he does that drunk wobbly leg attack your supposed to be able to crouch at his belly right? sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt and i have no clue why. Any tips? (yes i seen all the damn videos lol i gotta be missing something)

[normal heath]

yo how profitable do you guys think wearing full luck kit is (did someone math it out?)

[burnt marlin]

yes us east

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Luck The more luck the better

[simple sparrow]

Will I need an Exquisite Ancient Scroll for any quests?

[muted crow]

@glad thunder THE ONLY THING YOU'VE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO THE BALANCE OF THIS GAME THAT'S STUPIDER THAN FAITHFULNESS IS DARK FRLECTION AND SOUL COLLECTOR. REMOVE BOTH THOSE TRAITS FROM THE GAME. MORONS

[normal heath]

ty!

[cosmic swan]

[tidal plover]

No way you died to soul collector dark reflection combo lmao

[fresh saddle]

Is there a separate 25-125 GS lobby queue now?

[cosmic swan]

<@&988703997378584596> pls? He's insulting everyone and spamming caps lock

[zenith fiber]

does dual wielding 2 swords give the sword mastery bonus twice?

[cosmic swan]

Nop

[muted crow]

ANYONE WHO THINKS DARK REFLECTION IS A GOOD IDEA AND ISNT IMMENSELY STUPID IS STUPID THEMSELVES AND THEIR OPINIONS COUNT FOR NOTHING.

[zenith fiber]

almost thought i was on to something

[wispy fox]

That would be cool tho

[formal moon]

welcome to dark and darker

[hearty star]

is east coast down? keeps saying unavailable

[zenith fiber]

kinda op as well, shortsword arming sword top tier

[cosmic swan]

But too strong. And they should do it for the dagger perk of rogue xD imagine +30% damage with double dagger

[wispy fox]

That would be brutal

[muted crow]

A GOOD GAME FILLED WITH ABSOLUTE BRAINLETS? YEAH I KNOW. I' HAVE 3K HOURS.

[formal moon]

🤣

[feral pumice]

Chase should switch the footprint style for the type of animal track a druid shapeshifts into 😄

[grizzled citrus]

[rustic laurel]

when r druids going to be removed

[flat lily]

Never

[cosmic swan]

Never, that kind of "suggestion" useless. If you want thing to change, think of good way to nerf or rework the druid and post them here so we can argue/ post them on the website so we can upvote them

Like this one for rogue https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons
Or this one for warlock https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to or#game-discussion message
@covert mist Same

[gleaming lily]

@zinc sparrow USeast server is down

[covert mist]

fking nerf cleric holy fk

[hollow stirrup]

would warlock or bard be easier for a solo returning player

[cosmic swan]

Warlock is completely op right now

[hollow stirrup]

oh why? i just wanna use a crystal ball because the cyclops eye looks cool

[covert mist]

bard has much higher performance if you are good at it

[cosmic swan]

They're fast, can heal to full in a matter of second, have an op escape that can even turn into a damage strat, they're good at dealing with PvE and Boss. They can do everything

[spare elbow]

Its hard to balance a class with strong range damage and high self healing capability.

[meager quest]

bard is cancer to play, warlock all the way, easy healing

[hollow stirrup]

but im not a fan of wizard that much and slayer fighter i heard isnt good anymore

[chilly acorn]

i'm reading through google searches, ore is only in hell now? or no? can't find a real answer. rubysilver that is

[covert mist]

The only thing I die to is brain-rot smite/divine protection builds

There is straight up no way to out trade a cleric in full cloth running that plus perseverance.

[cosmic swan]

Rubysilver are in Inferno.
Cobalt, Iron, Copper, Gold in Goblin cave
Frost ore in Ice Abyss

[chilly acorn]

bless you

[hollow stirrup]

hmm okay then ill do warlock with falchion crystal ball

[formal moon]

go book longsword

[cosmic swan]

Yes you want to stay fast and kite, Book longsword is better. Or Crystal ball alone and longsword if you prefer xD

[hollow stirrup]

awhh

[cosmic swan]

Or do Crystal ball and kriss dagger at least

[storm stratus]

are there any cosmetic quest rewards? I know there were last season but what about dis 1

were the cosmetic rewards for last season near the end of it as well? ty

[cosmic swan]

Yep

[sullen fossil]

do wipes delete the characters so u lose ur char name?

[cosmic swan]

Nop

[left zealot]

US East is down again :/

[wary horizon]

Damn

[lethal scarab]

This was just an idea my friend brought up, but what if the classes with magic had a mana pool and mana costs instead of ammo? I think it would make those classes more fun to play, as you don't have to sit down after every fight. Like you have a set amount and maybe regen, which knowledge could contribute to. Then also add mana potions. Idk, just an idea that I think would make those classes more enjoyable.

[stiff quail]

EAST eta?

[ionic phoenix]

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I thought I was going crazy

[sullen fossil]

would make it more fun but i think the current system exists because they dont want players to be able to spam a single spell i think. would need to incentivize casting different stuff probably by buffing dmg when u cycle magic or something idk

[broken shale]

server still down

[formal moon]

spell spamming was a bg problem when we had mana pots

[steel aurora]

add a cooldown with the spell along with mana cost

[wispy steeple]

just died by being 2 shot to a "concussive spell" from a druid. extremely unfair

[steel aurora]

like 3 fireballs and then a 30 sec cooldown opposed to zap maybe 5 cast which is standing with a 10 sec cooldown after exhausting the count

[muted mist]

are warlocks like really strong rn?

[steel aurora]

still gear dependent if you wanna pvp but yeah they are pretty strong imo

[cosmic swan]

Yes the most broken class

[tall beacon]

Best race for cleric?

[muted mist]

yeah i figured, ig the nerfs didnt really do anything. Before the small nerf i ran a trio with some friends and we fought a team of 2 warlocks and a bard. The warlock (in full plate) outran me (fighter in like half plate and sprint) while casting curse of pain and literally 3 shot me from full. Im still a bit salty about that.

[lethal scarab]

maybe just add the count system into cd and that would be the only change needed. No mana necessary.

[steel aurora]

fair, I'd like to see some changes made to wizard for sure my favorite idea of a class but i wont touch current wiz

[gusty hawk]

buff dark ray

[tidal dome]

Does will affect curse damage for warlock?

[lethal scarab]

yeah, I tried wiz after playing almost every other class and it just sucked lmao

[muted mist]

probably

[steel aurora]

worst class for pve and impractical at pvp lmao, crystal swording mobs is so slow, and if you use spells for pve your a sitting duck

[lethal scarab]

yeah even when I had 10 spells and was echanting the sword with fire it still took 3-4 swings to kill mobs xd

[late thunder]

Can we get lantern in squire gear?

[signal sundial]

Would be nice!!

[jovial goblet]

are they gonna change hunting traps at all? genuinely dont understand why they can still be placed under bodies

[late thunder]

Sorry, I meant could we? I can’t think of a reason why not, would be nice on my barb

[hushed spear]

speaking of squire gear; surgical kit would also be nice lol

when running solo the campfire kit is basically the surgical kit but like, it's less impactful cause solo

[autumn solar]

bUFF WARLOCK

[cosmic swan]

xDDDD (Sry but pls no, the warlock is the most broken class right now)

[stoic stream]

nerf cleric

[cosmic swan]

Now we're talking. Better with suggestion to nerf or rework it tho

@bold bough Empty a bit your inventory/stash, you don't have enough space to get the reward that's why

[bold bough]

completeing a specific quest is crashing my game

[mint carbon]

any good way to find thoses damn blue crystal balls?

[wooden coral]

NA East "This region is unavailable", anybody else get this?

[cosmic swan]

Not really

@bleak totem No, same on torch and lantern

[bleak totem]

does achiles strike work on drums ?

[bold bough]

danke

[late thunder]

I’ve been doing pretty well in HR, especially goblin caves. If you can break open all of the crates, especially in the prison modules, you can get lots of drops.

@bleak totem no

[subtle heart]

wwruff awruff

[next ingot]

NAE servers are down? is it just me or...?|

[hushed spear]

the east has fallen

[wooden coral]

I got that message too. I just queued West for now.

[long veldt]

LO

[hushed spear]

i cannot for the life of me get the damn centaur hoof i got the horn first which apparently has a 1/5 the chance that the hoof does

[vapid frigate]

US east down and i still dont feel like playing dungeonborne

[coral crypt]

when is wipe??

[tropic torrent]

idk

[cosmic swan]

1.5-2.5 month

[coral crypt]

dope ty

[sinful holly]

Sprint should only work when moving TOWARDS an enemy......thoughts?

[ebon jungle]

bad

[humble drift]

Nah

[sinful holly]

i forgot to mention you move faster for longer, say 40 MS for 8 seconds

[worn hull]

IronMace removed weapon damage stacking because it was too strong... but then they added DRUID! Each point of agi on Druid is equivalent to 1 weapon damage on left click and 1.5 on right click. 44 agility druid right click is like swinging a 66 weapon damage weapon at someone. For context, a legendary war maul has 57, and druid attacks at more than twice the rate.

[civic rock]

How long is a quest chapter and when does the next set come out?

[stuck sage]

panther loses melee 1v1 against all melee classes

[neat thistle]

hide mastery and stealth should 100% be combined into the same perk

[next ingot]

Thought my game was corrupted or something lol hopefully they can fix it soon

[wispy stratus]

is there going to be any changes to druid with how long you can sit in form i just had a mouse sit under a table for 10 mins until gates opened and he just ran to gate

[worn hull]

They are assassins with too much mobility, they kill back line

[soft token]

hey guys, did they ever said something about hardcore mode character and ranking?

[next ingot]

Isn’t that only if you’re running panther form tho?…plus panther form loses almost mostly to any melee class

[stuck sage]

i mean you can gut the panther but then druid is just a caster

[worn hull]

just make it not 2 hit people
it's only the SUPER kitted that's the real issue

v this guy speaks the truth v

[wispy stratus]

why not just remove druid from the game

[next ingot]

If we’re gonna remove the class entirely might as well remove warlock and bard and just keep the original classes then lol

[humble drift]

Nooooo - it's the one thing left for me that I enjoy

[wooden coral]

I accept those terms if it means Warlock mains cease to exist.

[weary hamlet]

why is east down

[wispy stratus]

i dont mind the class i think its just silly how cheesy the class is

[icy plume]

who sells gold pouches?

[muted marsh]

anyone know how to use lock on mode for the magic missles on wizard???

[subtle heart]

what does the gold key do

[stuck sage]

that aint a thing

[muted marsh]

i swear ive seen it before the magic missles circle someone until they hit

[stuck sage]

they just do that its not a lock on they most of the time miss and collide with walls

[sick hare]

"This server Region is currently unavailable." Is this a server down message?

[glass summit]

can druid passing through doors be fucking fixed, what a joke

[normal topaz]

can you switch servers or stuck on what it says?

[sick hare]

havent tried switching yet, but I could see if thatd an option, nvm that worked

[manic shell]

Some people having an illegal convos in #off-topic-archive i feel like.

[fallen shuttle]

Get rid of landmining.

[dim flax]

Is there any benefit in attaining Demigod ranking in multiple categories on the same character?

[cosmic swan]

Agree, there is a really good suggestion that could replace the landmine build and make rogue more viable in duo and trio https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons Upvote it if you like it

@dim flax No there is not

[hushed spear]

grass allergy

[bright hamlet]

Anyone else get an error when you try and spam buy from merchants?

[rocky lagoon]

did anyone try out dungeonborne? it is horrible

[autumn solar]

BUFF WARLOCK.

[cosmic swan]

Yep. I also think it's terrible

@autumn solar Do you have any suggestion? Or why would you buff the warlock? It's probably the best class right now, i'm curious about what make you want to buff it

[dim flax]

@winter eagle Thank you.

[rocky lagoon]

I didn't expect it to be amazing but I expected it to be a lot better than it currently is. they put way more work into the trailers and hype for their game instead of development lol

warlock just got nerfed cause it was overtuned, it doesn't need to be buffed again

[storm stratus]

playing the drums on a non bard has a 75% chance of supressing players desire to attack you. Solid testing with at least 10 different player encounters the numbers don't lie.

[cosmic swan]

The worst is that I didn't feel any real upgrade compared to the last playtest I tried and I don't think it was the one 4 month ago, an older one I think

Imo he even need to be nerf even more. Well more reworked than nerf, the way he heal is the real issues there is a suggestion about that too (and an other I made) https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to and #game-discussion message

[vapid frigate]

its not good at all

[rocky lagoon]

that is a good suggestion. I think both rogue and warlock should be reworked. it'd be better for the game.

[cosmic swan]

I almost feel bad for all the people in this Discord who was like "I can't wait for Dungeonborn come out so I'll have a better game to play" Or "I can't wait for Dungeonborn, it'll make a competitor too DaD and force them to work more and do better stuff" xDDDD

@rocky lagoon My take on balancing right now is this #game-discussion message

[humble drift]

It does some things better and some things worse. I hope one day we get a medievil extraction game with proper combat. Let's be honest - both games are lackluster in that regard.

[signal sundial]

Is East is down for anyone else?

[tired sail]

what do you do to avoid getting headshot by the rocks in the cyclops rock fall phase, sometimes i just get oneshot

[hearty elm]

Yup. This is the second time I've hopped on the moment the servers go down, I think Ironmace has it out for me specifically

[dire jetty]

same with me and a homie

[rocky lagoon]

yeah medieval combat is hard to get right especially with magic

[toxic zealot]

Ya the US East is down for me as well

[stable urchin]

any word on the NA east being down?? no posts in server status

[steel aurora]

east is also down for me

[subtle heart]

yet warlock is still OP xd

[tired sail]

Yeah i got it, i can dodge the aoe decently but sometimes during the phase i take like 75% of my health damage

[rocky lagoon]

yea its rng it can get pretty annoying (make sure you wear headgear)

[hushed spear]

chiv 2 combat would be pretty solid

ofc they can't just shoehorn chiv 2 into this game lol

[jovial goblet]

does rogues silence stop fighter second wind halfway through it?

[signal sundial]

Did they remove the option to auto swap to next utility when its all used up?

[rocky lagoon]

stops you from using abilities doesnt stop active ones I think

[astral spoke]

How do you change servers? US East is down.

[lethal forge]

it's right above the ready button

[weary hedge]

Yeah

[flint solstice]

when is the coming wipe? idk where to find that info

[white saffron]

hey guys looking for a bard setup to 2x boss and pvp on sub 124 lobbies any advice ?

[elfin fern]

go to lfg?

[white saffron]

for advice on gear / songs ? i know how to kill both just wondering what songs yall take/ what gear pieces

[cosmic swan]

I don't think he's asking for mate, he's asking for a strat to kill both boss in one run with bard

@white saffron You want to play the Shriek for sure. I think rapier is the best as you can get headshot. Then if you're in solo, Ballad of courage, Aria of Alacrity are must have I guess?

[brave mountain]

NA east down or is that just me?

[lethal forge]

it's down

[fervent anvil]

just u

[lunar prawn]

Server US East is down

[fervent anvil]

cant trust a rogue

[neat thistle]

Can someone explain to me how the barbarian potion chugger perk is a useful perk? =50% duration but +20% effect would stll be less healing than normal, right?

[spare stag]

When does the season reset?

[brave mountain]

same healing just shorter duration i think

[cosmic swan]

In 1.5-2.5 month

[spare stag]

Eeep. I’m a newer player, what should I focus on to get ready for a new season? Boss battles? PvP?

[elfin fern]

depends on your goals, but getting solid pve down first is never bad

[past gorge]

druid rat in trios is turning into the new smoke pot rogue. You kill a bis team and a rat grabs it all while you chase down the last one

[spare stag]

I’ve never fought a boss and play mostly solos

[cosmic swan]

Yep learning PvE and Maps. Get confortable with normal and inferno/Ice abyss monster. If you want to start bossing I suggest try Troll and Cyclops first

[cosmic swan]

Inferno boss can be really hard/almost impossible in solo.

[spare stag]

What maps are troll/cyclops? Any tips?

[fervent anvil]

warlock would like to say otherwise

[cosmic swan]

Yes, but warlock is broken xD

@spare stag Goblin Cave. And as @elfin fern said, really good tuto

[elfin fern]

goblin caves. check out Ryan6DaysAWeek on YouTube, get your movement and memorize enemy attack patterns in every map

most of your PvP at this stage will be learning how to avoid attacks or escape from enemies

[spare stag]

Okay thanks guys. Honest Q, I’ve been maining fighter cause it’s “beginner friendly” but kinda boring me. What’s another good solo class?

[storm stratus]

Does flamewalker dmg from warlock count as your kill for ap? ty

[cosmic swan]

Warlock is broken in every situation, Rogue is a good solo class too

@storm stratus As long as you have the kill in the kill feed yes (But yes it should count to PvP and PvE)

[solid granite]

treasurer treasure hoard quest doesnt work????!?!?!

[cosmic swan]

I also like ranger with Survival bow and light/agi gear in solo

[elfin fern]

bard is incredibly frustrating to get right, but i have zero regrets choosing it as my starter class and main

[vivid fjord]

Warlock/bard/cleric = soyboy loser abusing broken class

[storm stratus]

Enjoying a class = loser. Solid logic.

[elfin fern]

cope harder and fix your wqe keys

[cosmic swan]

Probably a red lizard player

[storm stratus]

I've played every class since the steam release as a new player, nothing seems blatantly overpowered, a lot of the things people rage about with classes is honestly something that can be surpassed by getting better at the game.

[elfin fern]

phantomize and curse of pain are still dumb though

[storm stratus]

Yeah I agree some perks are definitely much better than others, I would like to see more options

[cosmic swan]

Yeah trust me as a more experienced player, Warlock is OP

[elfin fern]

warlocks are spencers shopping juggalo voldemort wannabes. join us theater kids instead

[cosmic swan]

Not especially the spell or skill imo but the speed and the healing mechanics is a real issue. Here some good suggestions to rework it https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to and #game-discussion message

[storm stratus]

as a meele warlock I do not heal with curses so I don't get that benefit with phantomize, but its still pmuch the only perk to pick its vgood

[topaz bane]

anyones prison a location quest bugged??

[cosmic swan]

And imo they should not be able to use the Spellbook and the Crystal ball should have a very slight nerf in damage (like -1 at each lvl, because they're going to use it instead of spellbook and no one except Warlock really use the Crystal ball anyway)

[storm stratus]

limiting gear use as a form of nerf is a low tier quality nerf I'm sure there's less annoying ways, as a mediocore-build warlock player I hope they dont nerf my playstyle to the ground while targeting the magic boys

[wanton otter]

What's an Escape Multiplier?

[oblique maple]

does the skeleton warlord have a higher spawn chance than the other hell bosses? Ive literally got this boss 19 raids in a row now.

[wanton otter]

Ah a fellow drain-lock. I am also a melee warlock enjoyer.

[shrewd cove]

Squire progress should be universal across the account, let us have to redo the merchant quests so that way we have to earn the upgraded gear and services, but at least make it so that the squire gear is universal. Please
@zenith fiber It only affects weapons that isnt in fighter kit, If you are attacking with a weapon you will have a debuff that shows the -10% dmg

[zenith fiber]

does combat mastery debuff affect the main hand weapon?

[storm stratus]

the only spell I use is flamewalker and full meele. I just prefer playing that way, I know its not meta but idc lol

[hollow stirrup]

u think this game will add arrow pulling?

[wanton otter]

They're YOUR tools, don't let the sweats dictate your actions. (I don't use invis on Rogue for example) More, dark, power to you.

[vivid fjord]

Cleric/warlock/bard = soyboy loser

[wanton otter]

okay doomer.

[zenith fiber]

ok ty

[slim flower]

comparing warlock and bard to cleric is crazy 💀

[wanton otter]

Ye it's like soy sauce and icecream, completely different.

[graceful ginkgo]

oh I was thinking soylent

[toxic wing]

any chance this game has crash logging?

[wanton otter]

I used to eat ppl but; you never know what they get into or where they've been.. :/

[fervent ether]

is us E back up?

[atomic bronze]

It would be good to expand the item shop with cosmetic items so that we as players can support you financially and you can expand the game better

[slim flower]

ever heard of the shop tab?

[fringe ember]

What's the best weapons for barb?

[shrewd cove]

Felling axe and bardiche always seem to be on the barbs I kill

[atomic bronze]

Ever heard of the expand?

[spare stag]

@elfin fern @cosmic swan hmm maybe ranger or rogue. I’m still playing on free version so I’m locked into one char for now

[livid yoke]

what do yall think is the best duo in the game

[shrewd cove]

bard and druid is pretty strong, lacks frontline though
Bard cleric too
Id like to see a bard frontline a barb, or a ls fighter, or a bonk cleric, bard lacks the close range dps check, even with buffs/debuffs. At equal skill and gs @left ibex

[livid yoke]

to me, fighter fighter seeming like the best duo

[left ibex]

bard is a pretty good frontline

bard can easily be tanky with like 40-50 pdr and the dps from rapier and shriek is very good, bards even when tanky have very good MS no shit they cant facecheck a true frontline but with some kiting with surv bow and shriek they can kill any of those classes

[shrewd cove]

truely based

[ocean dragon]

I do duo me wizard friend barb and seems pretty great

[left ibex]

and when teamed with a cleric they can easily frontline those classes as they have a healer to pocket them

[shrewd cove]

Bard cleric is very strong
@spare stag Yes, bard is one of the fastest solo boss killers, outside of LS riposte fighter

[spare stag]

Also bard seems fun Af but is it actually doable solo for bosses?

[toxic wing]

getting simple to desktop crashes with no warning, no idea what it is, is there any crash logging for this game?

[left ibex]

bard is VERY good for doing bosses since shriek of weakness allows you to do tons of DPS to a boss since it puts them in the negative PDR giving you extra damage dealt

[raven turtle]

What kinda 125> builds have y’all been running and enjoying?

[shrewd cove]

Dex Shield fighter with mostly greens. Arming and Heater with Recurve

[left ibex]

why go below 125? you barely have any gear at that level

[shrewd cove]

There is a 25-124 gear bracket in normals. Honestly adds much more skill play because there isnt much gear diffing to be had in that bracket
@maiden bough Yes, they only spawn in abyss now

[maiden bough]

are wendigos in the abyss? i have gone down there a few times and havent seen any

[raven turtle]

It’s more dynamic, and yeah there’s a new GS bracket in normals

[left ibex]

I think the real skill is going in with an ok kit and killing an absolute juicer making thousands of gold below 124 is most def controlled by barbs and easy classes since classes like rogue and castors wont have enough gear to be useful

[cosmic swan]

Yep there is at least 4 (but 3 are hidden)

[shrewd cove]

Can confirm that landmine rogue still 3-4 taps fighter at sub 124 gs, Warlock is still really good too, so dunno abt the caster part either

[raven turtle]

Instead of getting stat checked be purples and legendaries cause you Brought a green sword, you can actually make a low level build.

I think removing the fear of facing someone with 4x your GS means there’s like 10x more build variety possible in under 125

And since it doesn’t go as high, you can just spam high level rings etc with awesome stat bonuses to make up for any skills your build is lacking in

[left ibex]

warlock does very little damage without gear if your dying to low gear lock you suck lol

[raven turtle]

Means there’s a lot more tradeoffs based on what your build is going for

@left ibex doesn’t matter how much damage warlock does if you can’t catch him. He heals any ranged damage you deal and just runs the fuck away otherwise. It’s a pretty simple equation

[tidal dome]

SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REMOVE YOU ARMOR WHILE RUNNING! CANT EVEN MOVE SHIT IN YOUR INV WHILE RESTING

[shrewd cove]

Sub 25 warlock has 3rd or 4th fastest troll/cyclops kill in squire gear bracket, dps is not an issue
Other classes are also doing low dps, any decent warlock will simply keep spacing and not get into melee while he heals from curses

[raven turtle]

Generally disagreed. Especially since at that GS people can’t buff their movement speed as crazy as easily as well. Casters will have an easier time, even if they’re dealing a little less damage than usual

[pulsar rock]

This could possibly be the most unbalanced piece of shit game ive ever played

[lyric cargo]

anybody else having their game crash when you claim the weaponsmiths quest?

[left ibex]

ya thats how warlock is a low gear lock should never kill you and you cant kill them its that simple tho if you wana kill them do your best to make them pop phantomize and then get on top of them before they get it back. also against life drain lock dont let them heal if they hydra a door you jump it and get on top of them and when it comes to TM lock if they pop a hydra they will significantly lower health meaning you can kill them a lot easier before they heal and TM locks also take a few hydras to get back to full HP so keep that in mind too when fighting them. also of course warlock will kill bosses fast we have hellfire but if your dying to hellfire than I dont know what to tell you

[raven turtle]

I wouldn’t say it’s that bad, but I’d say it’s close.
It seems to have the tarkov problem where the devs are just clueless to cause and effect.

It’s a good game besides, but you’ve gotta be willing to tolerate some dumb shit from time to time to enjoy it

[left ibex]

The game is based around trios so the balancing is mainly around that so solos will always be a rock paper scissors which sucks but just how this game is

[cyan estuary]

Is the barracks even in Crypts 1?

[pulsar rock]

You have to be willing to tolerate dumb shit almost all the time. Any game like that isnt for me, especially with the difficulty it requires to obtain BIS or running with it

[neat thistle]

Cool, seeya!

[pulsar rock]

Solos is what i tried. Gamemode is so trash and unbalanced

[bright hamlet]

No, 2nd Layout in the Room east of the SW corner

[raven turtle]

Which class are you playing that has infinite heals? Sounds like a strong strategy, would love to try it sometime

Also hellfire is dumb as fuck when it can 1 tap people while wizard fire ball takes like 3 ngl.
It’s AOE is nuts too.

Also you seem to be assuming if you’re facing a warlock who sucks at the game. They can easily out move just about any other class if they’ve properly built their build. And you say “just catch up to them while phantomised” like it’s a walk in the park.

I’m gonna take a wild guess and say you’re warlock player.

I.e. enjoying easy mode. Go learn to play a class that doesn’t hold your hand while you take a tinkle and then come back and tell me shit about how it’s not busted

[cyan estuary]

Yeah i thought so thanks

[raven turtle]

Main way to beat warlock is to hope the warlock has a skill issue or stumbles into a landmine rogue.

[left ibex]

Hellfire is slow as shit dude, the entire point of warlock is sustain low DPS but hella sustain you cant play the long game with them. also what class do you play? if your playing fighter run surv bow, druid just use panther, if your rogue you have cutthroat, if your barb get achilles and iron will, ranger hit your shots, bard use surv bow and lament maybe even song of silence if your feeling fancy, and if your cleric run PFE and perseverance.

[raven turtle]

Warlock can just spam heal off enemies and you while out running you, and either just sand papers you down or nukes you with a hellfire.

You can heal, but you simply put can’t outlast them cause they literally have infinite heals while yours are finite.