game-discussion

[swift ether]

Dungenborne is a broken cash grab, anyone thinking its even in the same ballpark as DaD is delusional. Youre delusional bud

[gleaming cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/so-true-gif-24068595

[iron quest]

guys are there still only 2 kinds of lobies for normal pubs (-25 and all goes?)

[hoary estuary]

0-24 25-299 300+ i believe

[iron quest]

Thanks! Only for normals, right?

[hoary estuary]

yes High roller is anything goes

[exotic sparrow]

2nd game I die because curse of pain does not connect. I am done. Love the game but this is ridiculous.
Bard peaks and continues to shoot me and I release the curse on him 5 times all miss. How the hell is this explained idk. Isn't curse of pain hitscan ????

[molten gale]

Does this game have progress resets/account wipes now that it's out and playable?

[unborn spruce]

curse of pain does take practice to aim correctly

[grave jewel]

dark and darker in a nutshell

[dry kite]

Absolute state of DaD servers

[dry kite]

0-24,25-124 and 125+, not whatever you typed here. HR used to have 0-300 & 300+ but it's been removed afaik

[hoary estuary]

what is afaik

[latent briar]

dont take it offensive but -1warlock is -1warlock

[unborn spruce]

since when is there anything other than >25 and 25+

[exotic sparrow]

I don't main warlock..still trying out the classes

[unborn spruce]

Well that explains a bit then. Really need some experience hitting moving targets with curse of pain. You can get good at it.

[grave jewel]

as far as i know

[covert mist]

so fun having dead lobbies all day because I have gear

[latent briar]

Glhf,get ladder rank 1 then if you are having dead lobbies

[serene fern]

can shields block war maul swings?

[fair crater]

Has anyone else noticed the online status being glitched 70% of the time

[iron quest]

Thanks!

[iron quest]

yes!

[sudden pond]

what's the best build for a base gear warlock, nowadays?

[fair crater]

Me and friends have both been online and it’s says offline on both our screens

[rare venture]

Wait.. what? Are you saying because they used assets from the unreal store that they won't rework anything? This sounds like a complaint written by an AI.

[wheat summit]

deserved for playing warlock

[hidden patrol]

Is there any channels for learners>

[ocean grail]

What are the gear score brackets?

[sudden pond]

they are brackets that separate the assorted gear scores

[wheat summit]

theres an entire discord server, click the request a knight button in game for an invite

[dry kite]

0-24, 25-124 and 125+ for normals, nothing for HR

[sand zenith]

I think it’ll help the free to play players for sure and help people stop stomping timmies, but the real issue is people still not playing HR after two years lol.

[dire creek]

do the rope extracts respawn?

[shrewd linden]

I want to do ice dragon for the quest do you really need 4 people do it that seems super odd

[round elm]

anyone know which day quests are added on i know its later in the week

[dry kite]

Someone said they are added every week on thursday

[toxic valve]

How the hell do I message other people?????

[sand zenith]

You can block the beams with other things besides a fourth person it just takes longer to dps the boss with 3 people.

[shrewd linden]

i'm druid so the ent could work then

[serene marsh]

I think i just died to a hacker? my death cam shows my 3rd person pov of getting hit 3 times by literally nothing

Is this a known exploit?

[shrewd linden]

yeah the hacks are going hard right now so be carful there is a new esp move speed and hit range

[buoyant flame]

CoP is a pain to hit, you can PoS all day butthe same shot never connect with CoP

[serene marsh]

back to >25 til they patch this i guess

[sand zenith]

I think I’m lucky, the only time I’ve ran into espers was in hr trios-low rank.

I’m exemp 2, and haven’t found anyone rage hacking again.

[shrewd linden]

there out there lol

[sly frost]

Why no patch this week ?

[sand zenith]

I don’t doubt it.

[spare jetty]

DM’d you

[jaunty topaz]

There are plenty of hackers on right now but the death cam itself has been known to be prone to desyncs

[wheat summit]

warlock vamp is still way too much healing throughout a fight its ridiculous.

[serene marsh]

i was in a completely safe spot with nothing around me. had to have been a hacker

[spice pier]

how do you craft the divine blade?

[dry kite]

3 Silver ingots + green rarity longsword

[spice pier]

do you need a certain affinity? i can't find it in the weaponsmith

[dry kite]

yes iirc

[hidden kelp]

You have to complete the quest which also boost affinity for it, you'll get rewarded one for the quest and unlock craft

[spice pier]

thanks!

[covert mist]

125+ lobbies ruin the game. If you dont min/max your gear you get stuck in a dead lobby with only warlocks and rogues

[dry kite]

Ain't surprising when these contain the highest PvP event rates

[dry silo]

what is the best lvl1 cleric setup?

[remote light]

and those rogues can three-shot everybody with no risk of dying either :C

i think im going to take a break because after a while low GS gets boring and high GS is just rogues clearing entire lobbies

[covert mist]

the game was fun for like a week but the devs can't help themselves

How hard is it to understand that people want to use their gear in a looter/exctraction game. Stop trying to make it fortnite.

[cursive grail]

Trying to figure out a fix to play in directx12. If I migrate or link my account on steam to my ironmace account do i have to use the launcher at all when playing it thru steam?

[left ether]

does luck increase the chance of getting wolf pelts?

[mossy tusk]

what do people mean when they say full bag or empty bad in the trading post

[dry kite]

Gold coin bag that's full/empty presumably

[dry silo]

dont trust them though

[thorn urchin]

is there still a way to get access to test server

[shrewd linden]

no point in going and doing troll always 3 or more worlocks just waiting to kill you

[dense yew]

can you get a lantern sheild as base gear?

[winged gulch]

im i the only one that is seeing more non trio party in trio maps lately?

[fervent hollow]

druid was the worst thing to happen to this game ngl

[tiny cairn]

Bring Ruins back. I miss going outside.

[shrewd linden]

it would be all rouge and druid lol

[tiny cairn]

[dreamy ember]

I'd like to see ruins come back as a squad map.... hopefully that wouldn't break the game though

[eager epoch]

Do you guys think this game's balance is cooked long-term?

[shrewd linden]

its gonna take a lot of work but they need to start fine tuning things and getting stuff fixed the stutter the hacks the ai there is just a lot of small things that are adding up that need to be addressed

[jaunty grail]

id love squads

[brittle vault]

I Hate all the new people playing the game they are all eggheads and its impossible to find competent people to play hr with

[balmy minnow]

so... new strat is 124 timmy rolling?

[proven anchor]

Give us time to get better 😝

[viral hearth]

I thought the devs realized spells not costing memory was overpowered when they released Bard but then they add instant casting Druids cross mapping with panther+chicken leaps

[shrewd linden]

druid is not as easy as it seams I main it lvl 137 and I still get killed more then I would like. If you know what your doing you can kill us pretty easy

[viral hearth]

I disagree with you completely

[shrewd linden]

rat from any area attack will kill us including bard songs will also kill us and give us away. chicken hit box is bigger then you think. If we don't see a tick dmg on our screen on time we turn to rat and die. yes we can get out and in fights quick. we can heal but almost no dmg from spells. unless we stack all agility or str for panther or bear we are not going to kill you fast enought before you kill us. We have to one stat stack to get the most out of our animal. we have almost no hp unless again we stack vigor and str which cuts into our dmg as bear.

[balmy minnow]

lol +5trumag at 311MS hydrain at 113gs.... good luck!

[shrewd linden]

its always up in the air you have no idea

[unborn spruce]

depends man, sometimes people are friendly, sometimes people fight for the loot

[noble bronze]

it can happen? its up in the air tho

[shrewd linden]

they might have had a plan to befriend you then kill you I always say two is ok 3 or more kill the floor

yeah

[cedar dragon]

is there any easier way to fill/empty coin bags? or am i stuck with dragging them over purses and vice versa

[thorny agate]

someone help my game keeps getting halted

[haughty tundra]

OO HJDNAMHM

[modern gazelle]

shift click them once they're in your inventory

[misty blade]

Any news on whether they will allow blue shards to reset between seasons?

[cedar dragon]

i mean transferring gold between purses and bags

[ocean grail]

What class is most efficient HR solo atm?

[finite bridge]

is it a bug, that when I'm on a rope in ice cavern abyss, and there should be 10 seconds left, but instead it just ends the game, it went instantly from 10s to me dying, I should've had enough time on the rope to get out if it was an accurate timer

[warm moss]

Whats the current gearscore brackets? I just loaded in with 25 and I am vs people with 180 gs

[cedar dragon]

i belive 25 is "above", so 24 is as high as you can go in the "below" bracket

[ocean grail]

1-24 and 25-?

[supple solar]

They really gotta make explosive bottles a baseline purchase from either woodsman or alchemist, druids dont deserve the rat run away like they have

[lavish quarry]

so wait, are there tiers for gear score? or is it just 0>25<

[unkempt wadi]

yes, the Ice Mountain timer is roughly 10 seconds shorter than it says that it is

[thin flicker]

if they make explosive bottles its going to turn every lobby into a nonstop firepot fest, better to just remove druid rat form and give them strength in other ways

[tawny robin]

Rat might be okay if it's fatter and slower. It really shouldn't be faster than a player, even with its boost ability

[thin flicker]

it'd need to be like only slightly smaller than the chicken to not be complete bullshit

[tawny robin]

Well irl rats do get pretty fat so...

[cedar dragon]

25+

[jovial depot]

Anyone have any tips for fighting warlock? My friends and I can’t seem to do anything in 3v3s, they just curse, phase, bolt and kite us until we die.

[novel vector]

Alt f4

[austere owl]

did they add another bracket for gs?

[proven rune]

Guys anyone else have a bug where they cant split items? I have two golden keys stacked but I cant split them by alt dragging

[unkempt wadi]

warlock is very strong so team comp and picking the right engagement is timing/spots is important. Remember that they use HP as a resource so if they spam spells without healing it back, they're more vulnerable. Also, they normally wear lighter armour so ranged damage from arrows/bolts are effective + engaging when they try to hydra lifedrain is also a play.

[honest saddle]

best tip

[fresh swallow]

let the warlock change weapons during phantomize skill like druid's passive as its so useless. Its casting time is soo long and 10% move speed is nothing when he holds spellbook/ longsword etc.

Edit: Or nerf druids and bards

[winter rampart]

I'm a returning/ newer player and cannot for the life of me learn how to fight cave troll. any tips?

[unkempt wadi]

There are some great videos out explaining the mechanics I'd recommend watching! Many of the attacks will kill you in 1 hit so it helps a lot to know what attack he'll do by your position to him as well as the sound/animation he's doing. Although this video is 9 months old (https://youtu.be/ZESsDlNEDD0?si=JnPTNTIXopoftan8), the mechanics haven't really changed and I think he does a good enough job explaining that this should help quite a bit. Outside of this, practice makes perfect!

[cedar dragon]

is it legal to use something like autohotkey for something like automating emptying/filling coinpurses / coinbags? or something like shiftclicking items from inv to stash

[fluid island]

Apparently they added 25-124 but it's not officially confirmed yet

[unkempt wadi]

I can't recall them talking about AHK specifically. you can drag bags on to other bags/chests to fill them but without an official statement I'd refrain from using external programs for that just to make sure you don't get picked up by Easy Anticheat or something else

[cedar dragon]

i wanna automate it half for fun and half because its mind numbingly boring doing this process
also i know about dragging bags over eachother, it still sucks

[unkempt wadi]

you might be able to ask someone directly. You can probably do it as long as you understand the risks, I know some people have done similar programs long ago in the playtests

[cedar dragon]

i would think there wouldnt be any problem as long as im not doing anything with the intent to exploit / cheat something in the game, but was wanting to be safe

[unkempt wadi]

I'd mostly be worried about the anticheat just auto flagging and banning you. Anything outside of that would be speculation unless a dev confirms it. AHK for that seems ok but it the same program can be used for less than sportsmanlike endeavors that probably shouldn't be allowed so I can see how it would be blocked.

[cedar dragon]

im not familiar with how easy anticheat functions, but ahk does not do any kind of code injection, and is just "driving" key inputs into whatever the focused window is on the computer
plus some other stuff but what im wanting to do is mostly just "move mouse" -> "click button"

[unkempt wadi]

if I remember correctly there is more than just Easy Anticheat. I'm probably thinking too much about OSRS with their APM detection stuff and most games aren't going to be looking for that

ironshield may look for 3rd party programs as it does block some stuff

[manic bolt]

how do i deal with cris dagger rogue as druid in pvp? like i can't out run them nor can i kill them before they cut me open like a can of beens?

[thin flicker]

epic just got teaming xray'd

[wide frost]

how do i unlock ability to craft spear of rot

[unkempt wadi]

🤔 What build are you running? Rogues are extremely dangerous up close so chip damage or range is important. Druids can use spear so you could be able to poke and kite! Also, learning panther/chicken jump helps a lot to reposition.

[unkempt wadi]

Weaponsmith quests. If the current 6 quests don't unlock it, it should be craftable after his next 3 quests are added (if my memory serves me). Possibly this Thursday

[wide frost]

bummer yeah i did all 6

[unkempt wadi]

There's a chance that the next 3 unlock Rare quality Silver weapons and then the NEXT 3 unlock the Epic quality but either way, the quests are the way to eventually do it

[manic bolt]

i run the strenght build for the sneaky bear attack or spear headshots
but even when i do the panther chicken dash they still make it back to me in no time

[unkempt wadi]

the spear should help you get a hit or two before the dagger can touch you. Bear hurts, I don't think I'd freely push a bear as rogue even with good gear. I know Trent can't find invis enemies but making sure he's always in the fight can help a ton since it's not good to fully ignore the threat. Without seeing the fights I can't give more than general tips

[dreamy ember]

That'd be a sick buff

[safe thistle]

what si this? the most mobile class can't out run a little rogue? just jump through doors or go through little holes with your rat form, you literally can not die as a druid if you choose to not fight

[astral spoke]

Did they remove the Giant Worm from
Goblin Caves?

[jagged yarrow]

Where is the "dark ritual room" in the crypts?

[unkempt wadi]

the middle boss room in Inferno

[jagged yarrow]

Wow, that's some necessary info that would have been nice to know

[gloomy mesa]

bro is anyone rubber banding and lagging heavy rn ?

[jagged yarrow]

always, right as it's most inconvenient

[neat thistle]

Does holy light hurt skeleton players

[wispy mesa]

wait im got banned even though im niceguy?

[jagged cape]

hope NK gets loose and w a r ends this cansir game, cause all they are making is more and more cansir gameplay

[subtle heart]

would be cool to have a suggestions channel. but people would probably just use it to complain about the latest class that killed them.

[astral spoke]

It’s a bug happening to a ton of people right now they’ll fix it

[wispy mesa]

but im niceguy

[kind osprey]

remember when rogue players said rogues were weak and now its rogues every lobby

[zenith kite]

and 2 hand crossbow

*despair

[wheat summit]

warlock seriously needs the scope of everything it can do to be narrowed

[wet bear]

well and cleric tanking 343483 hits

[jagged yarrow]

To the druid I just spent the last 6 minutes chasing in goblin caves- you deserved game ending to the collapse, I got out

Druid needs a massive nerf, its movement options are waaaay too good, lolrip

[nova bronze]

I love how Ironmace tries to pretend that there's only two gear divisions/lobbies when theres clearly more. I can go in with one green and be 25 and above in gear score, and there will only be timmies with the same amount of gear in the lobby, but God forbid you go above 150-200 gear score, and everyone has grimsmile rings and epic/legendary bis rolled kits. I just dont understand the point of lying to your audience instead of being upfront and saying that you made more gear divisions.

[tired sail]

How the fuck do you play warlock in solos vs barbarians, I swear I have played 10 solos so far and idk if i have bad luck but i have run into barbarians 90 percent of the time, and they just outspeed me somehow and run me down

[jagged yarrow]

where do I get the bug parts

[kind osprey]

once again this game makes me want to rope myself because i'm fucking trash

[jagged yarrow]

man this game ain't worth that

[kind osprey]

bro i can play fine in normals solo but when fucking losing every single match when i play with friends always being the weakest link, it aint fucking fun. plus they always want to play HR where everyone's fucking purples+ and i can't even build a kit. a game has not made me hurt myself more than DaD

[raw girder]

Hello!...I've been having a hard time dealing with the harpys in ice caven..out party wiped 2times to the harpys magical wave... is there anyway i can deal with it..? Thank you

[subtle heart]

what class do you run?

[raw girder]

I play rogue or bard,and my friend plays druid

[subtle heart]

for bard use buckler. attacks are pretty well choregraphed. for ranger just facing right or left and moving back works. be aware of your enviornment.

[raw girder]

Thank you! I will try it next time...thank you verymuch

[fleet creek]

do they not prioritize game balance or what

im not playing until they nerf cleric

[kind osprey]

what the fuck is broken about cleric all of a sudden

[gentle ether]

is anyone elses game heaps stuttery?

[wheat summit]

clearly not with the state of warlock...

[cyan plank]

Yes the best map for me and I don't know why they remove

[spring raven]

what is gear score brackets?

[subtle heart]

yeah they do. they do a hotfix like every other week. the games just in beta. druid got added like literally 6 seconds ago.

[molten meadow]

hey guys, what's going on with the maps layers? Are they putting back the others one soon? It is kinda boring playing on the same right?

[edgy wagon]

best way to farm moldy bread?

[wheat summit]

skeletons

[azure pelican]

for 125 lobbies is it 124 and under or can i be 125?

[grand path]

124. Once you hit 125 you're launched into 125+

[azure pelican]

TYSM

[wheat summit]

does druid have a limit to how many times they can wildshape each form between resting?

[hasty valley]

nope

[finite bridge]

Is that a bug or like, a planned mechanic? Will it be fixed or should I just adjust my timing even more for escapes? It feels like it takes 40s sometimes for the abyss rope to actually get you to escape

[sudden bronze]

how do i beat the game?

[unkempt wadi]

It is a bug/oversite. Some of the Abyss ropes DO take around 30 seconds so cutting it close is a gamble. I've started to either take portals if possible or ensure I have 60~ seconds for the rope just to be super safe

[ebon cipher]

im getting a failed to connect to server error
last time i played i alt f4 i think that fucked it up not sure

[shrewd linden]

I always forget can you get legendary from golden chests in abyss and inferno HR?

[oak urchin]

I have learned that every timer is 10 seconds off. when it says 1 minute left, you got like 50.
and I only learned this BECAUSE of the rope extract

[noble plover]

what stats would you reccomend for druid with purple and orange gear?

[shrewd linden]

what kind of druid are you going for

[noble plover]

melee/bear

[finite bridge]

yeah portals def safer, unfortunate run of abyss

[hasty valley]

how did you get a purple or orange bear? mines brown

[noble plover]

buying it fro highroller, the squire will give you whites at later quest completions

[shrewd linden]

im running with ok purp gear at 46 str 22 vigor and 20 knowledge at 147 hp bear does 225

[noble plover]

what stats on the gear should i be looking for? ive been grabbing phys power and add phys damage mostly

[hasty valley]

it was a joke cuz you made it look like its the color of the bear, not the gear. str+-pdr is the way to go if you use bear, what ive understood anyway

[shrewd linden]

armor rating phyiscal power max health

[fluid island]

There is no 'beating the game', you just loot and extract and make money to get better gear

[plush lintel]

having this exact issue lol

[shrewd linden]

ill dm you screen shots of my stuff for you can't do it in here after my match

[noble plover]

ok so im grabbing the right things more or less so thanks, id appericiate it

[earnest current]

Fix Cleric , Cleric class super broken because i can make sure no class can win 1vs1 with Cleric , full PDR buff like x3 power and can heal instal how to win , all class got nerf but Cleric survive from beta test 3 until now Dev never touch Cleric @zinc sparrow

[shrewd linden]

sent you a DM hope it helps msg me if you have any other questens

[radiant mortar]

hi, is the torches quest bugged or do i have to extract and not go to inferno ?

[drifting ingot]

does dual wielding actually improve your DPS or is it just for an attack mixup in pvp?

[azure pelican]

why do people buy golden keys? gold storage? AP farming?

[chilly crag]

both, mostly storage tho, and a way for currency

[azure pelican]

interesting thank you /.//.... non looted? which ones? @warped solar

[warped solar]

Also a quest requires 2 of them (any, don't have to be looted so they jumped from 1.6 to 4k when the quest got released. Idk the price rn)

[fluid island]

The stats from your offhand weapon will also apply to your mainhand weapon which is the main reason for dual wielding
Fighter also has perks that benefit dual wielding (slayer and dual wielding)

[chilly crag]

gain stats from both weapons, and innate stats like dual wild daggers give 20% armor penetration

[latent pecan]

guys is it worth to complete the 2 golden keys quest?

[drifting ingot]

so if someone wanted to do a goofy slayer build they could take warhammer and an offhand dagger so that every warhammer hit was 30% pen?

[small marsh]

this would be an interesting build, sure

[brisk mason]

main thing is the gold storage now is skull keys/bags/mystical gems.

The main reason for the high price of gold keys is its needed for the quest. however it might be used for some gold storage now

[drifting ingot]

I guess for a rogue dagger build my offhand dagger is literally just a stat stick to boost myself up a bit and I can just ignroe it and hit left click then eh?

[chilly crag]

ive never played warhammer or tested it but innate stats transfer to your other hand

[azure pelican]

yo i seen ur videos thanks for the response keep it up

[earnest current]

Cleric got more damage than Barbarian , Cleric got more PRD than fighter and can use buff to x3 more , Cleric heal more faster than warlock full magic heal build ... never got nerf , fully basic gear win fully blue plate fighter

[brisk mason]

<3

Not sure when my next vid will be. The meta is pretty rough for ranger rn and i had some recording issues. Kinda just waiting for next hotfix

[azure pelican]

nerf ranger, ranger has gotta be a tough balancing act

[drifting ingot]

the healer has more healing than the offensive focused warlock thats crazy

[brisk mason]

Dont rlly think that was his main point

[drifting ingot]

I think his point was just to vent. What all changed from last month where everyone seemed to consider warlock the meta and clerics were just turtles getting kited? AFAIK the only difference is armour MS, which multiple classes can equip

[rapid vapor]

Warlock got multiple nerfs. Cleric has always been kinda gross. It's not as bad as it used to be, but it's still pretty clearly one of the best classes by far

[mellow perch]

whoevers idea it was to only have three frost crossbow skeletons on ice caves im very angry with you

[rapid vapor]

Fairly sure killing them in abyss also counts

[mellow perch]

if i was a ranger maybe id enjoy abyss

[drifting ingot]

yea quest is cancer

[balmy ibex]

can i enter with my friend but in solo together for pve? its not againts any rules right

[cosmic swan]

You can't pre team (join the same solo lobby with a friend or duo/trio with another team) it's bannable even if it's only to PvE. You can team with another random player if it's "organic" (not planned) vut even like that I think you can do PvE but not PvP

[balmy ibex]

ha ok, i spec 2nd floor players they're pretty chummy with one another

[subtle aurora]

Anyone else constantly running into people just in there for PvP? Loaded down with heals and not bothering with any loot and epic/legendary gear when u and ur friend hardly even have any rare?
Is honestly kinda ruining the game for us

[limber jolt]

why does this game promote personal non-skill? People only manage to kill me with classes that don't need to fight like the rogue and the druid who take you from behind without making a sound and kill you without fighting, this game is a MEME. FIX IT!

[civic phoenix]

Just go below 25, but I agree they should add maybe one more gear bracket especially to hr

[subtle aurora]

Right so just go in with absolutely nothing and just hope u manage to skirt around the tough enemies around the good loot lol

I get that people wanna PvP and it's a big part of the game but running into the exact same kinda people 3 out of 4 games is a bit much
It seems people got more PvP oriented after getting the PvP quests

[balmy ibex]

i see a dozens blocking at every stairs or portal which is always the funniest chance to kill, rogue literally just stealth camping on the stairway

secure an exit, THEN loot everything around it, not loot first

[civic phoenix]

You don’t need any gear to kill any mob if you learn how to do them , plus you can bring infinite heals below 25 if u need it

[subtle aurora]

I think to possibly help with that the heals could have some kind of gear score? So people can't have literally half their inventory full of heals lol

[balmy ibex]

if you travel from door to door to different map nodes, thats on you
buy luck potion, or grab one from me in waiting room instead 👍🏻

[subtle aurora]

Also where r u supposed to find gold? The map my friend and I use say it's in the same room as all the cobalt in the goblin caves, the room with the elevator exit
Am I jus blind? Lol

[balmy ibex]

both cave troll and cyclops needs to be defeated to open the deeper room for gold ore

[fading kiln]

It still ruins the gameplay loop of looting and gearing up if you have to inequip everything just to avoid the legendary juicers as soon as you find some greens and a blue or two

[subtle aurora]

Oh ok

[maiden echo]

There is another bracket after sub 25 that lets you equip greens and not run into 400+ gs juicers

[whole flare]

since a few days there is a 25-124 bracket

[fading kiln]

Yeah but we still need full BiS squads to go HR to retain the new steam players

[rapid vapor]

Yesterday I was doing some below 25 stuff and kept running into people rushing spawns. That's kind of annoying because no one is really getting anything out of it

[fading kiln]

Probably doing player kill quests

[subtle aurora]

Since the PvP quests people have gotten a lot more aggressive, used to sometimes run into chill people in solos and stuff, either we'd help each other or just leave each other alone but I don't see that at all anymore sadly

[rapid vapor]

Probably, but it doesn't make it less annoying, it's not like I gain anything from killing them

[subtle aurora]

Now if u wanna progress with some quests u have to, which kinda sucks a bit

[rapid vapor]

I had 3 barbarians suicide into traps because I was about to kill them. Killing specific classes is miserable

[subtle aurora]

Especially when u actually like playing those classes lol, rly enjoy my ranger and bard but they now have targets on their backs

[plain stag]

Why do people say ray of darkness sucks?

[tardy sandal]

Need to stack dark shards in order to make it work, mediocre range, and the duration is nerfed by your own cast speed making kits for it weaker

[teal basin]

Joining multiple dead lobbies in a row. Anyone else experience same thing?

[snow smelt]

I don't think mobs or even bosses should be an issue if you go normals with base gear. Even HR mobs are manageable with base gear.

[vapid arch]

the best loot in any dungeon is the loot other players bring in

[subtle aurora]

True but it ruins the experience for some when u can't even get quests done for people jus goin around killing everyone, if u can't bring in somewhat decent gear to make dealing with the monsters easier while u do ur quests what's the point?

[balmy minnow]

it will always be a full loot PVPve game.

[exotic sparrow]

Can u find cobalt ore in GC goblin mine zone in north east? or just in middle at elevator

[warm raptor]

Can u relocate stats? Somebody on Reddit said u could

[wary eagle]

Is Gold Rush quest bugged? I looted 2 full piles and it aint completing

[balmy minnow]

the only way to "effect" stats is with gear

[mellow perch]

i think you need to be the one to kill boss

[wary eagle]

Will try that one, cheers

[mellow perch]

happy hunting

[tardy sky]

Northeast is copper and iron and such

[rose herald]

We found a cobalt node up there last night though. I think they spawn in randomly.

[warm raptor]

Okay Ty

[devout dune]

They can spawn up there

[sand sinew]

Quest + experience in PvP and fun It's fun to do 1v2 1v3 and win 🤌 easier to do under 25 GS

[lost perch]

I just counted 20 exact name torches for Obscured paths and didnt get credit T.T

[unkempt wadi]

since some of them are turned off, it might not flag correctly. I made sure to interact with as many torches as I could (I probably did around 20 as well) and I did each one twice just be extra sure. Not sure if it'll work for you but I was able to complete it

[lost perch]

Unsure if it was the double interacting or not that did it that time but i got it haha ty

[elder nymph]

Any good resource for what items are good sellers on the market? I don't have a good sense for what has value. Like I recently learned +luck rings always sell for decent money.

[hollow egret]

Yo when tf are clerics getting nerfed this is not ok

[snow light]

where does one craft demon items ? like the gloves and pants ?, have all leathersmith quests completed

[lofty ruin]

PPL ARE TEAMING IN THE VIRGINIA SERVER!! FUCK THIS IRON MACE! FU!!KINC IDIOTS!

[cosmic swan]

That's not really Iron mace fault but ok? You can #in-game-reports them. They're actually banning reported people

[tardy oak]

Crystal Longsword for wizard now or ded game

[grave linden]

when you have a item your going to sell thake 30 seconds and look up the item and the best random attribute on it and then you will have an idea waht there worth.

really good items will have a base stat and randoms that work together. e.g. Leather leggings with magic power and magic dammage bounes

[proud anchor]

Does anyone know if rubysilver ore bought in the market counts to the armourer quest?

[nimble needle]

Why do you need 4ppl to release frost wyvern? That means that you need to team up with another team, which is hard itself. Also its a bannable offence? Makes no sense…

[cosmic swan]

Nop, it have to be "Looted" so found and extracted from the dungeon

[cosmic swan]

What's bannable is to PvP with other team. You can totally team to do PvE. And that's what IM are trying to make people do and understand with this Wyvern mechanics

[proud anchor]

ok thx

[nimble needle]

Okey, still it sucks, you should be able to kill the boss without teaming. What happends if you team up, and another team attacks, arent you allowed to protect your boss partners?

[glad pulsar]

Which is stupid on every level

being able to sell quest items is good RPG logic.

[cosmic swan]

? No it's made so you can't speed run quest by buying every thing. That's a good thing imo. Quest are also made for new player to learn the game by themself

[dry kite]

The problem is that looting on players counts as "handled" which is relatively annoying

[rain bridge]

stop making noncaster classes have to use a damn potion of invisibility its so stupid

[glad pulsar]

Flawgic, it's an arbitrary restriction as I can get out 20 plus cobalt a run with little effort.

[cosmic swan]

Well there is not real rule right now but I think it'll be ok to help your team mate of the other team if you get third party on this boss (or any boss actually?)

[cosmic swan]

I think quest right now are pretty well balanced compared to the two last season. The hardest one have been simplified and the Shared stash help a lot when it come to do them on several character

[glad pulsar]

It would make the random drop rate more manageable and is good game theory, period.

[atomic arch]

im still kinda new, i just played HR on crypts for the first time, spawned in a room with 7 zombies that all farted and the entire room was very small very cool spawn insta died

[cosmic swan]

Let mes guess? Top right of Crypt 1? https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N

[atomic arch]

yeah lmao

it was just so tight counters for so many poison gas bombs or whatever they called (zombie farts)

[cosmic swan]

This spawn is rough indeed but you need to stay calm and don't pool every mobs around. How I do it is : Open the door, run in the small room just in front with the dragon fly, 2 zombie and mummy. You have enough space too circle in the room while killing the Mummy and Zombie. You don't want to pool the other mob and certainly don't want to pool the first 2 zombie/mummy and attract them in the spawn room or the corridor with all the traps and dragon fly

[atomic arch]

gotchaaa i appreciate the tips

[cosmic swan]

Even like that if you'r unlucky and the 2 zombie are Nightmare (black) and release the cloud early in the fight because of a mistake you can die or take a lot of damage

[snow smelt]

So why is it an issue?

[zenith fiber]

does distance matter in melee combat?

[snow smelt]

Yes, too far you don't hit (obviously), too close you risk hitting with les effective part of the weapon (first part of the blade / shaft / handle)

[zenith fiber]

that makes so much sense

[rapid vapor]

Weapons have sour spots where they do less damage if you hit them with that spot. If you're further away you can also attempt to bait their attacks to miss

[zenith fiber]

thanks guys that clears things up

[cedar dragon]

i dont think you need to participate in killing the boss, but each gold pile only counts for a single progress on the quest, regardless of how many times you search it.

[dry kite]

from what i've seen, you have to be the first person to interact with it. Someone had a similar problem yesterday and that's the only thing they didn't do

[indigo cape]

hey is anyone lese stuck in menus, enter the lobby not working

[idle karma]

yes ^

[unborn spruce]

4 Piece copperlight is the new 124 bracket meta apparently. Fun.

[brave egret]

yo, my friend keeps trying to get in and it keeps saying 'failed to connect to server, quit the game' his internet is fine, he's reinstalled and done scan/repair multiple times and it keeps giving him the same message.

he has the full game on blacksmith, and he tried free on steam as well, neither one works

[misty rover]

Anyone know how to get to the wendingo in the reversed pyramid? Didnt have time to fully explore.

[idle karma]

damn happening to me too, i have legendary status also

[tough wigeon]

how much are purple lightfoot boots +2 knowledge +2 dexterity +2 strength

[hard wave]

Not a lot not good stats

[tough wigeon]

ok ty

[dreamy valve]

gurtgobbler wherever you are, thats what you get for being greedy! great to watch you die with the portal 2 feet in front of you

[turbid star]

is there a spreadsheet or something of like the best items to loot to sell on market?

[hard wave]

No best items just itmes with good rolls so boots with speed stats
Strength rings with phys damage etc

[dry kite]

Not really but you can check the marketplace and figure out what sells very well : troll pelt, skull key, gold key, wolf pelt (though the drop rate is relatively low compared to their prices), any item with good rolls, etc

[turbid star]

bet bet thank you all.

[onyx quest]

guys I am stuck in "Character List" i verified the game files etc and all but clicking "Enter the Lobby" does nothing. Anyone know why?

[peak cove]

Why is there a secret gear score of 125

[hard wave]

So you dont face 1k gearscofe sweats when you have a bit of loot but nothing good

[topaz cloud]

how are some people able to get into under 24 lobbies with full 200+ gs kits ?

[unborn spruce]

Never seen it

[lyric maple]

I haven't seen that but people can find and equip gear in game that would bump them over the entrance gs

[topaz cloud]

i just cleared full inv then squire into a duo's and everyone in the lobby was 9 - 20 gs but 1 team was 200 each

[lyric maple]

Sounds sketchy. Probably be worth a report on them to ensure there aren't any cheats in play

[peak cove]

My gripe is that it's secret

[onyx quest]

man why cant i click enter the lobby im stuck on character list

[hard wave]

????? so you like the feature they just forgot to put it in patachnotes oh no... the horror.

[raw inlet]

how can unblock more quest from weaponsmith?

[granite dome]

WTB troll plet 2 trades we can call

EU

[bronze scarab]

Can you get gold in inferno?

[peak cove]

forgot? they could put it in any time they just arent

[vast halo]

whens rubysilver gear coming

[faint minnow]

hey guys, trying to delete a character and its telling me to enter the nickname. im assuming that means the name of the character im deleting? doesnt seem to be working though.

[tropic kraken]

Its case sensitive

[faint minnow]

yeah, nothing. so strange

[manic shell]

they dont forgot, they choose not to, meaning they can change including any other things and choose not to tell anyone about it.

[rustic cipher]

i need help! ive gone into goblin cave 3 time taking 0 damage and the quest wont complete. such a waste of time!!!!!!!!! can onyone help

[vagrant furnace]

Try not to take damage on the 4th time

[devout dune]

You must have taken damage, there is no other reason

[iron estuary]

Not any more

[rustic cipher]

oh wow so funny. its been 4 time now no damage and quest wont complete. so annoying.

[analog basalt]

Close game sign back in. Try waiting longer as well. Friend had same issue

[rustic cipher]

hey thanks ill try that!!;D

[cloud wadi]

am i the only one that cant login at the swap character page?

[somber galleon]

No

[icy cliff]

are you by chance a warlock?

[rustic cipher]

druid atm was using my treant but im not going to this round and see if it works

[icy cliff]

maybe animal form has some wierd interaction with it due to reducing max hp

[rustic cipher]

thats true to ill stay a man as well

[icy cliff]

report back yeah? im curious lol

[rustic cipher]

ill let you know once i get out

[cloud wadi]

Bro what are going on with the servers

This has been going on for over 10 min. and no dev message, on being DDOS'd, update or other instability, every main menu button literally DOES NOTHING... Nice 😄

[jagged stump]

Gotta love quests that make you farm items from enemies that have a tiny chance to spawn on top of a tiny drop chance on top of having to wait 10 mins to even go to the layer they are on

[echo sparrow]

which mob is this?

[jagged stump]

Centaur Hoofs from centaurs and to a lesser extent ghost king since I have that quest to but have yet to see him spawn in well over 20 hell runs

[devout dune]

Wendigo, bruh no way he is serious when he says centaur... 💀

[echo sparrow]

Ive killed dozens of centaur and still no hoof. but they always spawn in inferno

[jagged stump]

Centaur hoof has 10% drop rate and there at most 3 in a map. Terrible time sink when the enemy has 0 skill involved, just crouch thats it.

[rustic cipher]

it didnt work. so fucking stupid, waste of like 2 hour sjust trying to do one quest @glad thunder

[jagged stump]

Wtf are you talking about, posting in the wrong discord maybe?

[pure beacon]

What do you guys think about loot rarity ? Wouldnt it be better to indicate the loot quality with a purple border for example so you can get a quick overview of chest and stuff without even looking on the items ?

[white saffron]

teaming is getting nuts, im trying to double boss and mine gold and the amount of time 2 people come from the other boss in solos is nuts

[split helm]

anyone know when new quests drop?

[devout dune]

There is no way you are done with all the current quests

[split helm]

most of them ye

[cedar dragon]

with an experience and skilled static, and the items prepared in advanced, i wouldnt be suprised. the most tedious part is probably wyvern? since you need 4+ people to do the fight iirc
royal gems is probably also the other most tedious part, but if you have been hyper grinding HR or something since the wiped started, then again, not that much of a stretch

[supple solar]

3 one being a Warlock or druid with a well placed treant no?

[devout dune]

4 different royal gems and yeah wyvern both pretty difficult

[cedar dragon]

again, probably not if you have been playing HR with a higly competent and experienced party, constantly, since the wipe started. but thats really only the top percentile of the playerbase

[supple solar]

Honestly getting royal gems could be done on normals Ive seen like 5 royal items in total and the only reason I havent seen more is because I havent been bringing lockpicks

[devout dune]

You gotta be lucky af though

[cedar dragon]

true, ive pulled a couple royal trinkets, and itd take a long time plus a lot of luck and game knowledge, but itd be possible if you are limiting yourself to normals.
run a rogue or bard, maybe with luck, if you are really trying to minmax the below 25 grind i guess
bard probably does it the best, due to aoe chest opening and luck from a perk.

[split helm]

100% bard

[cedar dragon]

personally ill probably run low/no gear high roller, probably on a rogue or luck bard, and look for the static gold chest/gem spawns
im currently working getting both of my main classes to have all the questing besides inferno and wyvern bosses complete, and then those bosses, before starting on target farming royal gems

[lone panther]

any1 else been ex[eriencing a bit of rubberbanding/lag last 30ish mins us east?

[split helm]

wait no one answered the question, when do new quests come out?

[echo sparrow]

usually thursday or friday

[grim aspen]

i always rubber band

[indigo cape]

cant even log in garbage game

[echo sparrow]

something about that made me laugh

[indigo cape]

"pay for our game that you cant even log in on"

[rustic cipher]

this game sucks! ive spent 3 hours just trying to do one damn quest. i have gotten out plenty of time w/o taking damage in goblins, but i wont complete the quest!!! then when i do get out of the dungeon the game crashes.......

[cedar dragon]

womp womp

[indigo cape]

requesting refund

[lofty ruin]

OK CHAT tell me the thruth about GEAR SCORE. its 0-24 and 24 - 999. or 0-24 and 24-100. 100-999 i dont get it. IRON MACE STOP HIDING STATS

[pure beacon]

Its
0-24
25-124
125-999
(For reference just watch Onepeg on youtube , he made a vid about it yesterday i think)

[cedar dragon]

my suggestion, below 25 normals, pray to spawn inside a module with an extract, and then clear to the nearest extract and then wait in a shadow for the rest of the match. things like warlock spell health cost does not invalidate your quest, but i assume any other non-self damage source will (traps, monster, players, etc.)

[graceful ridge]

whats the best axe for barb?

[rustic cipher]

JESUS CHRIST, I TOOK DAMAGE THAT TIME AND COMPLETED TO QUEST WTF 3 HOURS WASTEDDDDDD

[lofty ruin]

i was pretty close just by playing. NICE!

[cinder vault]

how many players are there in Solo , due and trio please respond asap

[cedar dragon]

i dont think its been explicitly confirmed, but from what i hear the 24-124 bracket is real, and not placebo.

[spiral spire]

It is

[rustic cipher]

i did that soooo many times. i just made it out with like half heath and it completed. doesnt even make sense

[cedar dragon]

weird quest

[sly leaf]

when you report someone does irommace email you and let you know they got banned?

[lofty ruin]

im not sure. but they ask you for videos i mean not everybody record their games. they ask to much info insted of look your game replay i dont know how do they investigate the cases. it should be a simple in game report button like any another game. but i have reported teaming and another forms or cheating didnt get any feedback at all

[prisma warren]

i miss ruins

[loud bay]

i wonder if they've held off on announcing it so they don't have to announce reverting it if something goes wrong (queues get too long, etc)

[worldly oyster]

Does anyone know how to unlock the crafting for the Grimsmile rings? I've completed all available quests up to "Other Solutions" for the Alchemist and I still can't craft them (It says crafted from the Alchemist on the Wiki). There's so many on the marketplace surely they're not just being found in the dungeon? Someone help there's fuck all information online 😢

[timid moss]

wait for vendor reset

[tranquil gulch]

is that norms or hr?

[limber pewter]

HR doesn't have gear score brackets

[somber galleon]

They’ve reserved the right to alter multiplayer matchmaking at their discretion. Not the first shadow patch, won’t be the last

0-24 -> 25-124 -> 125+ is normals only @tranquil gulch

[mental latch]

Teaming is acceptable as long as its not pre-teaming where a group of people in a discord call jump in together to try to get into the same lobby.

[supple solar]

kinda wish they'd just remove the skeleton axeman mob from the game and replace it with the frost version, just because the current crypts version is poorly balanced for what it does and is IMO and even if you try to use a shield it really feels like it's bugged and his attack hurtbox starts in the middle of the swing because it really feels like pure rng if you block the overhead

[carmine vortex]

how do i play this game

[limber pewter]

On the blacksmith launcher there should be a 'play' button on the bottom left, hope this helped 👍🏼

[carmine vortex]

thanks bro now i understand how to fully play the game

[limber pewter]

You're welcome, next you should ask "how do I make money", I'm sure someone will come out the woodwork to explain all of it for you so you don't have to watch any tutorial and waste your time, hope this helped 👍🏼

[carmine vortex]

how do i make money and how does the pve/pvp work its so confusing

[supple solar]

Oh, just play a class that isnt fully melee or full ranged like fighter with bow, because ranged classes are baby coward gamers, and rogue landmines will kill the baby coward classes

[echo sparrow]

should head over to the squire discord for help

[carmine vortex]

whats that.

[indigo cape]

when they gonna fix login issue where you cant enter lobby

[limber pewter]

I thought you were refunding the game lol

[echo sparrow]

#📢community-announcements message

[indigo cape]

i am you simp

[limber pewter]

Lol

[worldly oyster]

thanks, it was as simple as that. I was losing my mind after doing all those quests

[stiff sigil]

Is there any way to find out what the icon buffs/debuffs are?

[white saffron]

how would u ever know if they pre teamed or not like ?

[supple solar]

Youll fs know if you report every single person who kills you in a third party situation for pre teaming 👍

[elfin fern]

IT SHOULD BE that you press to bring up the inventory and can hover them for tooltips, but it simply does nothing rn

while we're here, WHY DO NOTIFICATION TOASTS BLOCK ME FROM CLICKING ON ITEMS. THIS IS SUPER FRUSTRATING

[void kraken]

What's a stable item to buy with gold now that gold coin bag prices are dropping?

[stiff heath]

There isn't one. That's the risk you take

[rustic belfry]

Game crashes everytime I get out from a portal

[void kraken]

Time to make vault characters I guess

[delicate kestrel]

Anyone getting rnadom disconnections for the client?

[dreamy valve]

hella rangers using aimbot rn lol

[indigo cape]

cant even enter lobby from character select

[lime pine]

Is it normal to get three shot by a cleric? I have 75% pdr, and the cleric doesn't seem to have any pen on the gear, only a purple morning star. Is this what hacks are like or am I just seeing things?

[mental latch]

Good question, but that is the stance of Graysun and the administrators..

[viscid marsh]

Smite and their buff is magic damage I think

[somber galleon]

Hard to tell with discord groups but I hear people all the time in public vc trying to party during the pre-game lobby

[thin magnet]

I wish wizard had the spellcasting speed on the staff specialization

[manic shell]

Getting hit to the head usually hurt, doesnt matter the pdr

[mental latch]

IIf you organically meet randos and group up in the dungeon that is totally acceptable per administration. @white saffron
I do agree that as a player its hard to determine who is pre-teaming and who isnt. I suppose if they are VOIPing in game its a good indicator that they are not pre-teaming, but if they are quiet then likel they are in a discord call.
Trying to party in pre-team lobby is acceptable as well.

[sand zenith]

Movement speed smite build. Smite+faithfulness perks hits for 15% every hit and slows you for 15%, blunt mastery hits for 10% more. You’re getting hit with magic damage not physical.

[modest maple]

Guys, my character disappeared and I can't create another one, I simply stay on the game's home screen as if I didn't have any character created, I already reinstalled it and it didn't solve it... Anyone with the same problem?

[cosmic swan]

We have like 40-50k player since the wipe and it's stable for now

[somber galleon]

Bull. They’d war over what class needs nerf and skill issue arguments

[clever wolf]

just got 2 shot by a chicken in hr is it cheating ?

[thin magnet]

the friends system is kinda lame - there's no easy way of figuring out who that druid was you added because ingame you see the char name and in the friends menu you see account name

[deft sentinel]

any idea when wipe is?

[maiden bough]

sure love barbarians being ungodly tanky before gear is even factored in and being able to take 60-70% of your health in 1 swing with a grey axe.

[icy cliff]

nope jus max reasourcefullness, 180 headshots lol

[weary hedge]

how do i not get hit with trolls overhead aoe attack? I feel like I am far enough away but still take a little bit of damage every time

[cosmic swan]

In 2-3 month

[maiden bough]

you have quite a while to wait. they havent even rolled out all the trader quests yet.

[deft sentinel]

is that a fact or

[meager marsh]

anyway to get in rn or is it jus bugged?

[cosmic swan]

Fact. Wipe happen every 2-3 month. The last one was 3 week ago. So the next one is in a bit less than 2-3month

[maiden bough]

pretty sure it does not wipe every 2 months. more like every 3 or 4 months

[ocean grail]

Wipe resets everything to zero?

[maiden bough]

yes everything. they used to do soft wipes in beta that let you keep your levels but lost everything else. but now its full wipes

[sonic schooner]

why did the triumph levels not reset

[cosmic swan]

Look at the wipe patchnote. They happen every 2-3 month

[maiden bough]

actually i think i might be wrong on the triumph levels. i cant recall if those are supposed to reset or not. i think they are actually supposed to wipe come to think of it

[hushed carbon]

Next wipe is going to be a big draw as well. Many many new players on steam and epic games joined up. But they are early their learning curve. Probably 10% of them will go hard on the next wipe since they understand the game now. That will be fun.

[maiden bough]

yeah i would love to see the game get back to 90K concurrent players like it did during its steam alpha before the lawsuit stuff. the highest i have seen it be at this wipe was around 60-65k

[hushed carbon]

People predicted a fall off of 70-90% within a month so it's outperforming all metrics of attainment from what I can tell.

[meager marsh]

Ayo does anyone know a workaround for the bugged character select screen rn?

[drifting raptor]

Does anybody know if Will or Magic Power scale anything on Druid other than Dreamfire & buff duration?

[lean dagger]

its a different game now these ppl dont enjoy the game anymore because it got worse over time sadly somehow, they get newer players trying the game but not buying bc the game has alot of issues rn, maybe arena will be good.

[cedar dragon]

theres 2 from a quest reward, i dont think anything above green/blue rarity is craftable right now.

[rapid vapor]

Currently only dreamfire is affected

[cosmic swan]

Nah the game is better now. If there was so much player during the playtest it's because the game was new, free and a lot of big streamer played it (or got payed to play i don't know) to the game. It's normal if we have less player now. What's sad tho is that indeed player don't buy the game. And imo it's because IM give them too much thing, they don't see the benefit to buy the game anymore. With access to gear in normal and marketplace there is no reason to buy the game (Or at least for a good couple of hours)

@drifting raptor Dreamfire and the Perk who heal over time that's all

[cedar dragon]

lots of reasons to buy the game, but i dont think most people would play more than 50-70 hours on the free version before deciding to quit or buy.

i think part of the problem is that ironmace isnt just selling the game, but instead requiring you to go through their red stone currency conversion first. (which i have to give it to them, ive not seen anywhere else sell for exactly on the dollar, and exactly the amount required to buy what you want (atleast for the legendary upgrade))

[cosmic swan]

Well yes, access to High roller, Shared Stash and 9 character but as a new player you don't need that before, yeah like you said, 50-70 hours. And after that long people either buy or quit I guess. And I think if people was "forced" to buy the game sooner they'll play more / stick longer to the game

[cedar dragon]

i think that putting more restrictions on the free version might do more harm than good. personally i belive that it is a big deal that they handled the free version in a pretty consumer friendly way. even changing one of the quests that could have led to a softlock requiring legend status (gold key quest)

[cosmic swan]

Yeah but if I understand it right they had to do that or people who have already buy the game would have been forced to buy it again on steam to play on steam

[cosmic swan]

Yes and no. Because they could have give different thing to free player imo. Like the possibility to buy an other character slot for a 5k gold for exemple. Removing the gear restriction in normal was too much imo

[noble bronze]

even then it wasn't..... technically a softlock, just an actual RNG shitshow

[cedar dragon]

you cant open gold door on free version because you cannot go into high roller, and im fairly certain the golden doors dont even exist on norms.
if they do then i guess you are right, mega rng to find key and open door in 1 run.

[cosmic swan]

Well technicaly you can drop a key on a skeleton champion and open the door. But it's almost impossible

[noble bronze]

there's 1 gold door room in the bottom right of one crypts map. you need to mega rng get the key (from like the 2 champions on the map) and open it yeah
You also have to survive the emotional damage of getting the key but losing the map coinflip

[cedar dragon]

i think that being stuck with 1 character is one of the biggest motivators to buy the game, without making it feel "scummy" or "consumer unfriendly" or whatever imo.

[civic dirge]

warriors being able to outspeed, outdamage and out heal every classes while using a crossbow is no sense, nerf crossbows and longswords

[cedar dragon]

i think though that the whole legend status thing should be stated and shown on the steam page, since it was genuinly somewhat confusing for me personally to even find out how the whole system worked.

[drifting raptor]

confirmed that's affected by will and magic power? I know the perk is affected by Magic Healing, but wasnt sure if the others were confirmed as well

[maiden bough]

i dont understand people saying the game isnt good now but glorifying the beta and alpha. to me they werent that different. it was only "more fun" because it was new and no one had established the meta. games are always the most fun at launch when nothing is refined and dominate metas havent emerged. the game is largely still the same now as it was at its core back then. the only major game changes we have really gotten are gear based match making, the removal of the circle, slightly increased TTK, and gear stat squishes. which are all good changes frankly

[noble bronze]

the removal of +all has greatly improved society and all our lives yes

[cedar dragon]

anyways im still having the character list bug where i cant log in, praying that this is fixed soon, its been like 4 hours now :(

[fierce walrus]

Is there anywhere that Ironmace has confirmed three gear score brackets? The wiki says there is but there is no source for that info.

[wheat fractal]

It's true, there was a silent patch, if you don't believe it you can check for yourself but it's definitely there, I get dead lobbies every time I go above 124

[wintry vault]

Yarp gear lobbies are 25-124 then above & below.

[icy cliff]

i made a reddit post asking to confirm, here are the results: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1dszcc1/is_25125_gs_normals_actually_a_thing_or_a_myth/

[lyric maple]

Nerf Rogue into the ground, or remove from the game entirely. Cool? Cool

[cosmic swan]

A nerf is not the solution imo. They need to rework it/ replace the invis build by that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[lyric maple]

Shouldn't have to luck into getting them out of position to be able to win an encounter with a specific class. They shouldn't be as fast as they are and they shouldn't get an increase in speed/damage after coming out of literal invisibility. Remove them from the game and we actually have some semblance of balance

[cosmic swan]

Did you even read the suggestion? I agree with you that the invisibility is too strong, but the rogue is a rogue he have to be fast. That's part of the core of this class

[lyric maple]

Yes, but it doesn't address the hit and run, can literally never catch them or outrun them problem that is currently present.

[limber pewter]

maybe theyll add the wallclimb that was data7777mined (for some reason this is a banned word) awhile back

[cosmic swan]

Yes that's true but it's the point of the rogue, low health but fast.

[lyric maple]

Then take away their range ability. Or again, just remove them from the game completely if they can't actually balance this shit

[cosmic swan]

And actually right now other class can reach the MS cap with the good build. And what you say is true mostly in Solo. In duo and trio you can counter the speed of a rogue

[lyric maple]

I'm tired of being put in impossible situations. Can't catch them, can't run away. Just die.

[cyan wing]

We need more pvp focused maps like goblin caves

[limber pewter]

dawg i think you might just need to take a break from the game if its got you this pressed

[cosmic swan]

No, we need more objective on the map to create chokepoint like that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

[cyan wing]

Rogues are easy to kill lmao. What class u used

[lyric maple]

Barb.

[cosmic swan]

Well if rogue is your counter you can try to build a bit of MS, play Zweihander and the slow or the roar that reduce the damage of the ennemie around you (the one that fear the mob)

[cyan wing]

Yes more choke maps could be nice

[plain stone]

Is it still 25 and under split from 26 and up?

[lyric maple]

The Savage roar doesn't reduce MS, at least from its description

[cosmic swan]

No I mean the Achille strike or Savage roar

[lyric maple]

Again, I don't have the answer. It's just literally the most annoying part of this game when I chase someone halfway across the map, can't catch them, then attempt to run away, close doors between us etc and they just are able to stay in my ass the entire way.

[somber galleon]

0-24 -> 25-124 -> 125+

[plain stone]

When/Where did they say that was how it works

[somber galleon]

They didn’t, shadow patch. Not saying you don’t believe me but I’m tired of arguing with people about it. Can test and verify yourself

[cosmic swan]

They didn't say it. But that's how it work. Many people ahve tried and confirm it

[plain stone]

nah I believe you, I just was chilling in LFG channel, and saw abunch of people saying LFG 125 and lower. And I was so confused.

[fleet creek]

Everything is normal with jacked devs

[shadow bough]

Its a good change, allows Green Kits, White/Common, Then blue/purp lobbies. The loot drops is the same tho

[cosmic swan]

I'm not sure about that. Maybe i'm wrong but I feel like I found a lot more blue gear in normal since the new bracket. Don't know if it's in all bracket or only in the new and higher one. Or if it's not true at all

[spare stag]

Honest question as a new player- when am I ready for gear level 25+ lobbies? What are some objectives to focus on when playing other than loot + survive?

[quick mica]

Most people who play with gear do it for faster mob clearing (quests/farming) or to push PVP. What you do will depend on what you enjoy doing

[spare stag]

Are enemies the same difficulty in higher level lobbies? Does it just challenge you with PVP?

[subtle heart]

I just had the wildest fight with a Warlock all through crypts. We legit fought from the start of the match until the 1:30 Mark when he ran down the red stairs. What happens 30 seconds into inferno? He gets Sniped by a skelly crossbowman. This is outta control how powerful warlocks are. I made no mistakes and nearly lost. He made a ton of mistakes and nearly won.

[quick mica]

Enemies are only harder in High roller. The lobbies other than the players are the same in 25+

[somber galleon]

There are 0-24 -> 25-124 -> 125+ lobbies.

You could move to 25-125 easy enough and have slightly better gear for pve clearing without it risking fighting juicers.

But really you mainly want to practice surviving pvp (or avoiding it), practice bosses on the maps, farm expensive mats from certain mobs, complete quest objectives, gather money/gear for high rollers.

[tired sail]

what is the best type of daggers for rogues currently?

[maiden bough]

you shouldnt play a fantasy based class game and actually expect rogue to not be a class...that is actually such a ridiculous statement saying to remove them lol

[spare stag]

Is there a guide resource for the second part? Resource locations, materials, bosses, etc? Thank you

[knotty sonnet]

yall seen dungeonborne? What yall think about it?

[limber pewter]

lame

[maiden bough]

use the wiki and google dark and darker interactive map

[lyric maple]

I said I don't know the answer, but if they can't balance them the the answer is remove them. Idk. Clerics need to be nerfed as well. Also shouldn't have a fantasy based game and have the barbarian be the undisputed weakest melee class

[humble slate]

What size inventory space is needed to reduce "not enough space" risk to zero when looting the pile?

[knotty sonnet]

I think the pve looks cool but combat seems a bit too crazy

[maiden bough]

youre saying barbarian is the weakest class but thats also because you are playing it lol. most people think the class they play is the "weakest." barbarian is actually very strong. they are absurbdly tanky and hit harder than any other class. they are the least gear reliant class in the game. you can literally run at people because your hp bar is a literal piece of armor lol. if people are outrunning you then you need to use throwing axes more

also keep in mind alot of the game is balanced around the 3 man experience, not solos.

[lyric maple]

"Absurdly tanky" while we have to not have a major armor piece (chest) to even deal the damage we're really supposed to and is the only melee class that can't wear plate armor to ACTUALLY give us armor. We literally die in 2 to 3 hits from almost any other class and takes us 2 to 3 to kill them as well while swinging 2h weapons that take 4x longer to actually hit with

[warped root]

when do the new quests come out?

[lyric maple]

Literally just died in 3 hits to a flanged mace Cleric, while I hit him twice and did less than half his health.

[maiden bough]

barbarian do not die in 2-3 hits from every other class. that is such a load of bs lol. if barbarians had the same armor as a fighter they would be broken because of how much hp they have and the perks they have access to. sounds like you were hitting him in the hands then. which means you need to improve your swing aim.

[warped root]

Im ngl i got 1 hit by a barb yesterday i dont wanna hear barb weak bs

[maiden bough]

exactly. i hit a barbarian with 2 fireballs (1 was direct, the other was not) and 2 zaps earlier and the barbarian was still alive and proceeded to 2 shot me after being hit by 4 spells lol. barbarians are actually very good.

[cedar dragon]

force them into melee? they are made out of paper, and if you can get the first swing off before them, then you should be way ahead. id say something like if you are able to run, then wait behind a corner to jump them or something. turn off the lights, potions off your belt, etc.
plus id probably go for wide, sweeping attack weapons in this kind of scenario, but ik thats a bit more of a stretch to bring up

[lyric maple]

Yall got caught by a barb. Lol. Non- melee classes out speed barbs all day every day and other melee classes hit just as hard as barbs and have armor to prevent us from actually doing the amount of damage we should be doing. The only way people die to barbarians is by being literally cornered and not having a melee weapon

[cedar dragon]

strip your armor and unequip weapon, any class can get moving fast that way.
plus you have throwing axes, those are super OP from what ive heard.

[lyric maple]

The answer to being able to be a competitive class should not have to be "remove the little bit of armor you're actually able to use"

[maiden bough]

sounds like you need to improve on catching people then. like i said use throwing axes, use achilles strike., use rage. you have ways to catch people and boost your movement speed. but to sit here and say rogues need to be removed when barbarians are arguably in a better spot as class overall is funny lol

[cedar dragon]

idk how your getting dps checked by a rogue tbh
2-3 hits from pretty much any barb weapon should put one in the floor

[lyric maple]

The problem is that it takes 4 business days for a barb to swing 90% of our weapons 2 times. We've been hit 5 times and are dead by the time we swing twice.

[obsidian frigate]

anyone else just die from this "the game has been temporarily halted to protect against adverse network threats to the server"

[maiden bough]

try using a 1 hander then like the horsemans axe. if the 2hand is too slow for you

[cedar dragon]

felling axe iirc has a mechanic where it resets on a successful hit

[maiden bough]

you are correct. the felling axe has very fast recovery if it connects (even if the connect is an enemy block) but has a longer recovery period if it misses and hits nothing

[lyric maple]

I'm sorry, but no one will be able to convince me that Rogues are fine or fair or even remotely balanced

[cedar dragon]

plus thats an overhead swing, easier to avoid/miss imo, as compared to a horizontal / slash attack

[maiden bough]

then it sounds like you are the problem, not the game. if you can sit here and make absolute blanket statements like that lol. the fact you openly admit no one can change your mind is all anyone needs to know

[spare stag]

Thank you!

[lyric maple]

You're making blanket statements that they are fine, and they're not. The fact that you refuse to see a problem in their balance tells me everything I need to know

[maiden bough]

have you considered that youre just not very good at the game and need to improve? you have had multiple people voice their reasoning against you and you sit here and act like what you say is right and what everyone else says is wrong lol

[wintry vault]

Honestly post gameplay clips, skill issue Nereth.

[maiden bough]

multiple people have chimmed in telling you several different ways to deal with classes hit and running you, and you have rebuked every suggestion. you have a very narrow mindset.

[wintry vault]

Your ego/arrogance is holding you back. Not the game. Your blaming external factors for lack of skill or lack of identifying weak areas.

[lyric maple]

I have and I know that I need to improve in some areas of the game. However I can't improve things like Rogues being literally invisible, literally silent, literally faster and altogether nothing but a class made to be literally an annoyance.

[subtle heart]

How to beat rogue? He killed me to day!

[cedar dragon]

forgetting that there are limited perk slots. the more utility perks one takes, the less damage perks they have. if they have stealth, ambush, hide mastery, and creep, then they arent getting any damage perks besides ambush. no thrust, no dagger mastery, no backstab, etc.

[subtle heart]

rogues are slower than barbs and bards. they need a buff honestly.

[lyric maple]

In what world are you living in?

[cedar dragon]

real and true

[jolly night]

Rogue daughter or prime Tm warlock son

[subtle heart]

a world where i play ranger and am still able to beat rogue players who are objectively better at the game than me

[cedar dragon]

bard has like 3 or 4 different movespeed buffs they can get from songs or perks, of which 1 or 2 can be shared.

[lyric maple]

So Ranger and Bard may outspeed in some instances, but definitely not Barb

[subtle heart]

yes barb. i've played both classes.

[blazing pulsar]

back to back crashes for me and my duos partner, happening to anyone else?

[cedar dragon]

i lied rogue has 1 movespeed bonus, ambus is 3 seconds of 10% movespeed iirc.

[lyric maple]

Not barb. So have I. Literally not faster in any way unless you specifically build MS in every slot

[subtle heart]

either you don't use rage or can't find the x key on your keyboard.

[cedar dragon]

i havnt been able to login for about 6 hours now :(

[lyric maple]

I do both. Doesn't mean by the time I take back out my weapon that they're not halfway across whatever room we're in

[cedar dragon]

throwing axe is super OP if you are getting kited as barb.

[grave linden]

Nereth were you playing when barb was the unstopible killing machine last season

[subtle heart]

50% swap speed is so insane when you realize that beats of alacrity, and lament of languar are 1 knowledge, and are incredibly fast casts.

[lyric maple]

Nope. Wish I was though. Instead of being the most squishy melee class now (obvoously not counting rogue in this one) Lol

[cedar dragon]

barb still is pretty strong

[shadow bough]

124 is more flexible and actually allows newer players to use their green gear. Im sure there's a mix due to the increase, but overall the brackets don't feel pubstompy

[grave linden]

barb is a little week now. I would like to see all swing speed be both fixed and fast but the time between attacks be what is affected by dex

[warm veldt]

is teaming allowed i keep running solos and people are teaming

[marsh pike]

FIX THE GAME I CANT LOGIN TO CHARACTER

[subtle heart]

balancing isn't as bad as people say it is. death just happens so incredibly fast.

[lyric maple]

I wouldn't hate that as a small way of having barb feel a bit better

[long relic]

gotten 3 ended abnormally msg's in like 5 minutes

[grave jewel]

for pve yes but if they both attack you no

[blazing bear]

We need 4 persons to start fight with wyvern. How to join 4 persons in same dungeon, if 3 max ?

[grave linden]

it can be strong built a specific way. any build rn and for the rest of the games life that can't stack PDR or MS will be dis advantaged

[jolly night]

Make deal with a team

[cedar dragon]

is it legal to try and queue into the same lobby with multiple groups for wyvrn? cause i heard about preteaming being bannable

[grave linden]

yes

[subtle heart]

yeah

[jolly night]

Watch out for the dungeon cops, I heard they bait pve people

[cedar dragon]

yea, id say then: get your however many groups together, then try to queue into frost caverns at the last 5-10 seconds before the map rotates
also nobody likes frost caverns so the lobbies are usually pretty dead. unlikely that you will catch the last place in a full lobby at the last few seconds of rotation.

[somber galleon]

It is legal. I questioned it earlier and was directed to devs stating it’s expected for wyv.

While they work on group systems at least

[latent briar]

man its feel sadman that you almost kill the guy but he would rather die to a trap and you get no credit.

[cedar dragon]

they should just add like a static 40 man PvE raid

[somber galleon]

That would be absolute chaos. Don’t think it’s a good idea but I’d love to see it

[subtle heart]

war mode 40v40

[cedar dragon]

maybe not 40 but higher than 3 player group. call it an "expedition" or something

[jolly night]

A single bard with peacemaking

[grave linden]

just turn off the servers it will be the same result lol

[somber galleon]

Even like 10 man wow style dungeons would be p cool ngl. Though logistical nightmare at the games current state

[cedar dragon]

maybe more likely with what ive been hearing about a lobby rework

[subtle heart]

"I HATE FUN!!!!"

[somber galleon]

IMO they gotta get classes in a decent spot but either way I’d enjoy content like that

[viral moth]

the frost giant berserker is genuinely harder than ghost king

[cedar dragon]

what class are you on
ik an extremely easy way to fight them, but ive only done it on warlock and rogue

[lime pine]

Guys, what does the treasurer mission give in the end? Does he sell gold bag after all the missions are done?

[viral moth]

bard, cleric
i duck towards the way hes swinging from but not in time

[cedar dragon]

https://youtu.be/ZEeLobZMUMU?t=31
heres the guide i watched, timestamped to berserker

[cedar dragon]

to be safe, id wait until im sure they are on an "attack cooldown" before attempting any swings, but ive gotten away with just holding down LMB with a longsword on warlock, and maybe only getting hit a single time.

tldr "Crouch-duck and circle left, then 'chase' the Berserker if the attack is a combo", is pmuch what i do

[maiden bough]

i really hope they address needing 4 people to do wyvern. it is actually so dumb.... game supports 3 man teams but requires 4 people to do the boss... on the least popular map.... on the inferno version of that map where people dont really go much right now to begin with.... you can play 25 ice cavern matches and never even get an attempt to fight the wyvern. its so absurd lol. very poor implementation of the boss. feels like only streamers will get to do it currently

[cedar dragon]

25 matches? since theres a pass on "preteaming" for wyvern, whats stopping you from using LFG to get 4+ people together? sure it might take a few attempts to get into the same lobby, but as you states, nobody likes frost cavern, so it shouldnt be that hard to get everyone into the same lobby

[supple solar]

Yeti's arent really hard they just have lame spawn locations which really artificially inflates their difficulty

[cedar dragon]

honestly a lot of difficulty(atleast for PvE) is how much you know about cheesing and how much you are willing to do it

[maiden bough]

the problem is that you shouldnt have to queue snip your friends to do a boss lol. that is very very poor game design. at that point they need to just make it a 3man boss so that you dont waste time even trying to get in the same lobby as your friends to begin with

[cedar dragon]

agree
im thinking that maybe with the rumored "lobby rework" they might have some way to run a static of over 3 people, if only for specific dungeons (10 man PvE raids sound really cool imo)

[supple solar]

Nah like the yeti's seemingly intended mechanic is strafe around left, then maybe right if he combos, or jump his first attack, but because the elevator yeti is in a hallway, and the other two are in the center of a ridiculous mass of kobolds, one even having a frost giant with him, really makes actually playing the game to fight the yeti less enjoyable and less worth it, if they really want to get rid of cheese they're going to need to do something about the mob density and layout of those rooms IMO, like a lions head gonna be locked and yeti are probably gonna drop grey rondels anyway so who cares

[honest heath]

yo guys, is it possible to use animal transformation during dreamwalk?

[viral moth]

100% streamer only boss lol

[cedar dragon]

use range to clear kobolds first. just about every class has a way to pull single mobs, and if you dont, then i guess just pick your fights smartly?
or you can even pull the yeti/giant out of the room without having to clear all the kobolds and whatnot

[drifting cliff]

when is wipe?

[maiden bough]

not for a while. it just wiped 3 weeks ago. youll be waiting a while. they havent even released all the quests for this season and i think the rating for this season just started last week

[supple solar]

Well you see thats if it was a solely pve game, you have so many factors that it's not worth doing all that, you could just go to a different room. Only one quest has you kill yetis and as you said, might as well just cheese it because the actual effort in fighting it is lame and not worth it, plus puts you directly in more danger of other players, picking your fight smartly would just be not fighting it at all

I think of Yeti's like I think of Demon Berserkers. Both require a lot of input to fight, and both provide mediocre rewards and have too much health to make fighting them head on less worth it due to external risks than just figuring out a cheese

[cedar dragon]

everything is extremely situational in a game like this. play to the terrain if you can, try not to pick fights if you know you wont have room to fight or a spot to cheese, etc.
i personally steer clear of icicle cave (the one with the yeti and giant)

[supple solar]

If I'm on my fighter I like to try to play square, if I'm on my warlock I just hydra tank (a mechanic I actually like because it requires an understanding of timing at the very least, I dont use Torture mastery so I alternate life drain and ray of darkness to sustain my hydra tanking)

[cedar dragon]

on my warlock i will get enemies stuck on terrain, and spam hellfire while sustaining hp w/ curses, or use longsword if i have a decent spot to land melee without taking damage myself.
on my rogue i try to avoid pve cause ik im going to take damage(atleast in solos)

point being everyone plays the game differently, theres usually a ton of ways to approach every situation, play the game however you want

[supple solar]

I see we are enemies then baplette, as I hate Torture Mastery because I find it fundamentally bad for the class, but to each their own

[cedar dragon]

i personally picked up warlock specifically for doing GC bosses without having to learn as many of the mechanics.

[supple solar]

Thats why I like warlock, my issue is specifically TM, it's just bad form and a very undeserved crutch for poor play (the whole thing, TM+FW+Phantomize)

[minor prairie]

similer to Destiny's raids maybe? Super Hard PVE with strong bosses but you get good loot

[cedar dragon]

i agree that its pretty strong, and the nerf was honestly deserved

[jaunty topaz]

Now that everyone is complaining about Bards/Warlocks/Rogues it's a perfect time to be a druid main since he's also broken af and probably won't get nerfed

[cedar dragon]

was thinking like a more "traditional" mmorpg, but that 40 was an exaggeration. i dont see anything higher than 6-9 without it being against some kind of colossal sized monster with more mechanics than just "stab their toes/ankles"

[supple solar]

Needs fully removal, it's bad class design through and through, the point is that the spells cost health, it only exists as a way to subvert that one gimmick warlocks use. It should be replaced with a curse or perk that rewards health on kill, not for doing damage, it really doesn't matter how much they try to tune it it will either heal more than the spells cost, or heal less and be worthless. It's really unbalancable IMO, as shown by them still trying to balance it like it deserves to exist, shadow touch is as far as Im willing to go for lifesteal mechanics that loose

[minor prairie]

then that would just be that one perk on Barb that gives 15% hp on kill. unless it would work on PVE as well

[cedar dragon]

id personally be turned off of the class if i was forced to chug potions all day or sit around and cast life drain on a hydra. imo life drain is kinda impossible to cast "naturally" without getting an npc stuck on terrain

[supple solar]

who ares, warlocks are already barbs with spells, and yes it would work on PVE because warlocks use health as a spellcasting resource, barb just dont get hit by pve dummy

[modern barn]

what would the number value be?

[minor prairie]

thats fair. as a previous warlock main and still currently playing him as a side character. Warlock is just a better PDR-Fighter/Barb/Wizard/Self Healing Cleric

[supple solar]

Yeah, at least with Hydra Lifedrain no torture mastery, you have to stand still for a total of 5 seconds to actually get the full value, theres some risk and some need for quiet to do it, TM is just "Lol im max MS cant catch me 30Hp ZAP with a dot/hot, 30Hp ZAP with a dot/hot Lololol"

[minor prairie]

• some extra time if you dont have a lot of magic heal or have a lot of health

[supple solar]

Life drain actually goes exclusively off damage and the 20% from vampirism. the occultist hood only has Mheal on it because the devs thought TM was a funny meme when in reality its just bad and toxic for the class. TM is the only thing that benefits from Mheal

[cedar dragon]

imo theres a bit more to curse of pain than just zap, it definitly requires some skill to aim, especially if you are up against someone who knows how to move evasivly. im pretty shit and constantly struggle w/ getting it off in pvp

[supple solar]

Is it not literally just zap that wizards have with a longer dot? Never played wizard

[cedar dragon]

almost every other ranged spell is a skillshot with a relativly fat hitbox.
ive also never played wizard

[supple solar]

it is still hitscan and while it can be blocked or evaded it's not like Bolt of Darkness, or even Ray of Darkness, it requires less aiming than both those for really, twice the benefit if not more, Sacing yourself DOES suck tho

[cedar dragon]

sure curse of pain is hitscan, but it has limited range, still damages you when you miss, and for me atleast, tends to be pretty unforgiving in its targeting
you can also get out-ranged by just about any other ranged option if you are only using curse of pain.

[bleak totem]

what do yall think is the best way to get gold

[cedar dragon]

currency or ore

[supple solar]

I play a Ray of Darkness Soul Lock, and let me tell you, using a staff to maximize the dmg, because the book will not let it kill people unless its a REALLY good book, feels like it has so much risk, but is very fun so I do it with friends, but when I swapped to TM warlock just to test how the nerf hit it, my god was is twice as easy to kill someone with almost no risk to myself, just a white Mystic Glove and Occultist Hood lets you heal 17 hp off one CoP which is almost the cost of missing 3 entirely, 1 hp off

[modern barn]

is there any other resource than hp/spell slots that would be interesting on a caster?

[supple solar]

And Im not saying youre a bad player for doing it, but I am saying its bad for the game and class that is exists, it promotes really bad habits, because Flame and Phantomize are just so easy to use to get out of bad play, and youre still healing so there was really no punish at all for the bad play

[supple solar]

Arrows, Telekinesis Wizard lmao, really though those are the two things that work. I guess if you wanted to go out of the box, like really out of the box, you could make a fatigue based system, where spells just get weaker the more theyre used until they do basically nothing, but yeah spell slots and health are the only two resources IN THE GAME so it's really all they got to work with, stats maybe? Every spell eats a stat for a short period of time?

[limpid brook]

Demon form is actually useless since the last set of changes

[minor prairie]

oh I didnt know that I thought it was just off magic heal

[desert orchid]

Which is better, viking helm or visored sallet? Viking helm has 3 more movespeed compared to visored sallet but is missing dex and has lower defense

[supple solar]

Depends on if you want swing fast or go fast I guess, but usually people like go fast

[pliant umbra]

Anyone know how to kite with a spear? Do you leave the spear in hand the whole time, or put it away while turning and running to make space?

[chilly rose]

how do you change your actual username?

[minor prairie]

I think that makes you slower cause then you gotta put it away then whip it out again + the slow from actually poking. Just build ms and agi so that way you basically negate the -50 ms

[fair crater]

Stumbled across a rusty iron door, what key is used on it?

[minor prairie]

since I think only crypts and inferno have usable keys rn it would be Golden when Ruins comes out again you would use Rust key and in Frost mountain I think they have to add a room for Frozen Iron

[supple solar]

I fucking LOVE this lantern shield I just wish it was a bit bigger maybe or did more damage, probably more damage, if you get the parry it should be really punishing IMO

[modern barn]

I like to whip out the lantern shield turn the light on then shine it in peoples faces like they’re under arrest

[buoyant compass]

hi , anyone knows a video talking about the abyss secret rooms , wendigo n stuffs ?

[fair crater]

Alrighty, I wondered where you could use them at

[minor prairie]

they should make it to where it applies a blinding debuff for like 2 seconds if you shine it in their face for a while. Similer to the Dead by Dayling flashlight. maybe do the same for Light Orb

[pale forum]

Can anyone tell me why when I click enter lobby on the character list it doesn't do anything? running on blacksmith

[modern barn]

still happens even after restarting game?

[pale forum]

yes, my pc as well

[minor prairie]

you try verifying the files already?

[loud urchin]

server down cant connect to it after i restarted the game

[pale forum]

scannned and repaired all files

[flat lily]

What are your guys' favorite duo combinations?

[minor prairie]

oh they said they are working on a fix for it in #server-status

[pale forum]

thanks

[desert orchid]

anyone remember requirements for all 3 skeleton skins? Theres all 3 grades from normal to nightmare right

[arctic crow]

so how many cheaters are there in high roller? every 2. lobby?

[worthy copper]

Either empty PVE free farm lobbies or 2 party lobby with the other team knowing exactly where you spawn ))

[fleet creek]

So they can fix this quick but not cleric 😂

[graceful storm]

What needs fixing about cleric

[modern barn]

exists

[whole geyser]

has anyone been noticing lots of dead lobbies today?

[graceful storm]

Probably because they added a new bracket and split the player base up again

[whole geyser]

whats the split?

[dark hinge]

many people are having problems login in, some people reporthing 5+ hours and still nothing

[graceful storm]

A few days ago they added 25-125 gear score bracket where it used to only be under or over 25

But the login/server problems also probably has something to do with it double trouble

[whole geyser]

yea have they said anything on if they r working on a fix for the login issue

[desert orchid]

oh... kill ghost king quest is he hard to solo as barb?

[supple solar]

I think the lantern shield should have an impact of 5 or 6 like the buckler and heater do, and hear me out, it makes it harder to actually do the counter attack because the timing window is worse if it doesn't "break your guard"

[fallow linden]

What is the most profitable cobalt gear to make?

[dense viper]

nearly impossible I'd say

[minor prairie]

paladin, my friend runs Paladin cleric and has 70% pdr with my bard buffs and runs a 104% ms full plate with hands out and 99 with weapon while hitting 100 dmg headshots without smite

[chilly rose]

is there two crypt maps??

[icy cliff]

yarp

[graceful storm]

thats the funnest way to run it, but still anyone who can kite forever or slow him like wizard or warlock with 310+ move speed is pretty good counter to that I dont think the class needs changing. right now all the classes (other than rouge) have a good spot in trios and feel really good kitted up which has not always been the case, AND nothing feels overly powerful like when half the lobbies were landmine rouges or barbarians

[minor prairie]

I know im not saying its a bad thing lol he loves squaring up with barbs and other clerics just hitting 1v2's in duos while I sit back and buff. kind of a reverse role thing

[half night]

grimsmile ring can be crafted right? After which quests?
Alchemist last qeust line? really i need to kill ghost king solo..

[graceful storm]

oh, the dude before was saying cleric needs fixing and I was asking what about it needs fixing? I thought you were saying it needed fixing my bad

[minor prairie]

no I thought that was what he was talking about for cleric needing fixing and then listing why I thought that

[graceful storm]

oh probably, it does suck to be on the other end of a good cleric but imo the game feels pretty balanced overall. Druid can be a little OP with certain builds but still its not as bad as the old stuff that wasnt balanced

[misty blade]

so are they ever gonna fix the absolute stupidity of making quests character-specific?

[graceful storm]

only the kill quests are character specific the other collecting quests you can do on whoever you want, probably not and it gives you the opportunity to do them on every class and get all the rewards multiple times

[misty blade]

I mean, sure, but I got tired of "explore the magic library" the 2nd time I did it.

like... if youre gonna have us do these things over and over again, maybe dont make them fucking luck-based?

[supple solar]

Yeah its a nice cope but I would honestly prefer to just have max squire on every char over the rewards

[graceful storm]

yeah im not personally worried about the squire gear but if you are that might suck

[misty blade]

"collect a rare bangle of every type" is luck based

going to ANY specific location in the crypts is luck based

it's also kind of hilarious that a LOT of the quests are in the crypts module that has the dark magic library, I currently have FOUR different locations I have to visit in that specific module

a damn shame i havent seen it in over 6 matches so far

[graceful storm]

theres only two maps, if you know the layout its very easy to run in the room for 1 second and leave

[chilly rose]

can 3 people escape via stairs??

[misty blade]

I do know the layout, they just wont put me in the right fukin module.

[icy cliff]

down but not up

[dry kite]

What blocks you from moving to that module then ?

[chilly rose]

I see

[misty blade]

wut? you dont get to decide which crypts module you get.

You're thinking of a ROOM. A module is the type of map you get.

One module has certain rooms, the other does not.

[serene granite]

pvp is dead game is boring

[sudden bronze]

why is ice caves in the game

[dark hinge]

to piss us off

[misty blade]

im not arguing semantics bro

[serene granite]

i could hop on for a couple hours and run into 1 team the whole time its so boring

[pliant yarrow]

Yeah the no arena thing is killing me. That's why I'mma be playing dungeonborne for the next two weeks.

[cloud wadi]

anyone got news on the character selection server bug? still cant play the game...

[wintry vault]

Same

[cloud wadi]

Just got the bug today, played yesterday...

[pliant kite]

Even if you're right, everyone is using it as room.

[radiant portal]

Doing 3 man for fun and running into a 6 man of pre teamers is so stupid, @glad thunder I guess you just dont go ice map as 3

That is so dumb

[rapid vapor]

If someone wanted to play plate fighter with some magic would you direct them towards cleric or platelock

[maiden bough]

gamba quest seems broken... i survived twice without taking damage and neither one counted

[misty blade]

kinda feels obvious? context clues would tell you there's obvi no issue just walking to a room.

not my fault everyone's reading comprehension is cooked

[cloud wadi]

its not always the best strategy to pvp 🙂

[misty blade]

again, context clues. I was obviously talking about a room if you just use context

[rapid vapor]

A module is a room. Maps are maps.

[misty blade]

again, im not arguing semantics with yall.

context clues. either you use them or you dont get what people are saying.

[fleet helm]

There's not really any semantics to argue...'cause a room is definitely a module, and a map is a map.

[rapid vapor]

That's okay. I'm just correcting you

[misty blade]

I was wondering how long it would take someone to resort to insults over semantics LMFAO

[royal star]

Can you sell Handled items on the Market?

[icy cliff]

Yarp

[maiden bough]

has anyone else had bugs with the Gamba quest? i have now done 3 goblin runs without getting hit and still no credit for it.

[cunning vault]

yo guys, my friend is having fps drops after the last update, someone have it aswell? and anyone have an idea how to fix it?

[lyric maple]

Hey, if anyone is still in here from my tantrum earlier, I apologize. I've got some pretty obvious anger issues I'm working through in legit therapy and used this public forum as a method of venting frustrations that were truly unrelated to the game itself, and that's unacceptable. I'm sorry

[royal star]

Why does everything in this game move so fucking slowwwww? Like genuinely even Arrows and Bolts go unrealistically slow

[sour sigil]

@velvet oyster

[timid hare]

hello when is the next patch and like 10 buffs to wizzard ?

[surreal python]

I just got two guys with over +700 gear score in my +124 gear score lobby. Is there a bug or something?

[quiet ginkgo]

Do ironmace have a roadmap to know what comes next?

[lyric maple]

Was it 124+ or was it under 124?

[desert orchid]

Literally just had my first fight against a wizard in normals in 100 hours and he jumped off into the void in ice caverns when he was losing...

[shrewd linden]

cool server took a crap and I just lost a huge kit and log back in can't rerun dugeon

[quiet ginkgo]

he went into abyss to escape ya

[desert orchid]

nah he died it wasnt timer and saw it in killfeed

[cosmic swan]

You mean about the Rogue thing? No worry mate I think everyone here can understand how frustrating the rogue can be. The problem is that the rogue can't really get balanced, the Invis build is either you one shot the ennemie or you die before getting one kill, and if you remove that to the rogue he only have his speed and the kite start that's not less annoying. That's why a rework like that is needed I think. Upvote the suggestions if you like it https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[surreal python]

Under +124

[lyric maple]

Yeah, that whole fiasco. Lol. Definitely like the idea

[minor narwhal]

quick question why tf do we have to pay 100 gold admission fee and elo fee for high roller entry why not just one

[desert orchid]

silent crossbow for rogue perk thoughts

[loud bay]

is there a place, in-game, to see how fast specific weapons are? i'd prefer not to check wikis 'cause they're usually out of date (especially for EA games)

[quiet ginkgo]

For the loot you get in it 100g is nothing

[lyric maple]

I'm more concerned with why Francesca Axes are 24g each from the merchants and can't 2 stack. Lol

[loud bay]

maybe multiple options for bolts: silence, poison, barbs.. each affect base damage/speed/etc

[minor narwhal]

yee am not complainin about the amount just wondering why the 100 gold fee and the elo fee on top ?

[lyric maple]

20 stack of arrows shouldn't be cheaper than a single fran axe.

[quiet ginkgo]

They should indeed be stackable. But it would maybe get the game meta to be too much ranged again. And this kill the game.

[graceful storm]

Because you have to risk it to get the biscuit

[cosmic swan]

Imo the solution is not to buff the weakest class but to nerf the other. If they keep buffing everyone we'll end up in a situation like last season where the game became "Who is going to one shot the other first" and no one want that. Some class deserve nerf other deserve rework imo like the rogue invis build could be replace by that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons and the warlock torture mastery/magical healing build reworked like that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to or like that #game-discussion message

[maiden bough]

yep 4 fucking goblin caves without taking damage and still no gamba credit

[rapid vapor]

Have you tried taking damage and healing to full before escaping

[maiden bough]

you cant take damage for the quest.

[cosmic swan]

They nerfed the Francesca axe a lot cause people where abusing them, getting in game with half an inventory of axe and spamming them. So they removed the stack of 2 and make them more expansive

[tired sail]

why is wolf pelt so expensive?

[timid hare]

no i want straigh up buffs this state is miserable

[lyric maple]

The problem is that it's about a barbs only defense against a kite, and being single stack and 24g each at their cheapest SUCKS. Lol

[knotty sonnet]

what class would yall say is the most balanced atm?

[cosmic swan]

Nah that's a bad idea. If you keep buffing everyone the game is just gonna be unplayable because everyone is going to be too strong. The best way to balance now is to reduce the TTK and power of everyone

@knotty sonnet you mean like really balanced? Not too strong not too bad?

[inner elbow]

can someone explain to me what is the purpose of gold storage as a inventory slot being a mechanic in the game? what are the pros?

[warped beacon]

wtf was with all the bans last night my boy got abnormal detection n got banned for like 15 mins then contacted support insta unbanned

[cosmic swan]

I think they're still tweaking the Anti cheat system and that result in false ban.

[timid hare]

that is not how it works lol

[lyric maple]

I'm a solo only player. For the specific kill quests, do you only get credit for getting the final hit in a duo or trio?

[cosmic swan]

Yep, in duo/trio you need the last hit (actually you need to be the one who appear in the kill feed)

[loud bay]

sweet, dinged into neophyte 3. fear me

[knotty sonnet]

indeed

[cosmic marsh]

where do I make suggestions for the game?

[rapid vapor]

Yeah but if it's bugged it may work. Someone had gotten it done after taking damage a few days ago

[spare elbow]

Yep i was salty af when the wiz i needed ran into mobs and died before i could finish him the other day 😂

[maiden bough]

ah ill keep that in mind

[cosmic marsh]

where to make suggestions?

[cosmic swan]

Hummm then I guess Figther, Bard or Ranger

[cosmic swan]

Here https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

And here #suggestion-discussion

[graceful storm]

does anyone know if the launcher issues have anything to do with blacksmith vs steam or is it both? Just realised I am having it as well

[sonic schooner]

whats the button to loot something but not equip it?

[twin echo]

man asia servers are so empty

[graceful storm]

scan and repair fixed it just took forever

[knotty sonnet]

you really dont think bard is a bit too strong?

[subtle pawn]

Is there any one who's against the idea of dead and unwanted stats/items being cut out from the game

[cosmic swan]

Well he's good but I feel like as a support class Cleric or Druid might be better now

@subtle pawn It's important somehow to have "bad" stat in the game. It's a looter, if every item you found have good stat you loose all the interest and hype to find a good item. But it's true that some stats might be, more than "bad", not strong enough. Like Armor pen for exemple could deserve a buff

[formal moon]

Hardly even see bards

[formal moon]

Been saying it for years. Just makes sense to get rid of interaction speeds at least

[subtle pawn]

Yeah interaction speed is def the biggest offender

[cosmic swan]

Or make it so you can really stack a lot, so if you want to go for mining game you can be really fast. (The top would be to had other objective like ore who need interaction speed)

[subtle pawn]

And I do know dead stats kind of add value and interest but ugh I feel like I need a list of every classes BiS just to know what's actually valuable lmao

[cosmic swan]

Maybe fuse Magical and Regular interaction speed, buff and debuff duration also. Buff them, fuse those two and that would be enough imo

[azure pelican]

I think the current random enchant system is great though I like the idea of fusing reg and magi interaction speed. and also increase the cap for buff and debuff duration to make them have more value

[royal star]

Is there a class that attacks and moves like an actual normal fucking person or is everyone in this game just some anemic cripple incapable of moving faster than some starving child?

[cosmic swan]

That's the point of this game, everything is slow and hardcore. But Rogue is the fastest to move and attack

[azure pelican]

optimize your movement speed stat

[royal star]

It's not even hardcore. It's just annoying because the default move speed is so fucking slow that Dex and Movement speed become the only thing you need to prioritize as any melee class. Fighter, Cleric, etc.

Like it takes so much to build a character who moves like an actual person instead of some anemic malnourished gremlin

[cosmic swan]

Well that your opinion. I like the game the way it is. Actually I think they should nerf even more the move speed, so people won't stack too much

[royal star]

What they need to do is buff everyones default movement speed but nerf how fast you can get in total. There's no reason for my butt naked Cleric to still have an incredibly slow and unrealistic movement and attack speed. It makes the combat very very tedious and clunky. I would say the game were hardcore if the combat were fast paced and fluid but it's just alot of dodging around for basically every class except for Cleric and the only reason Cleric is exempt is because it's the only class that gets halfway decent healing

[subtle heart]

makes sense considering the only thing we can buy for consumption is shield and healing potions all the classes must be in a constant battle with scurvy at the least

[royal star]

The healing potion and bandages honestly need a buff. At first I thought people saying Cleric was OP was bs but then I play any other class and realize Cleric is literally the only class who can walk away from a fight and less than a minute later be back to full hp

[spark karma]

play druid im never not full hp

[cosmic swan]

Have you ever heard of Warlock or Druid?

[subtle heart]

i’d honestly prefer a healing spell nerf. hp maintenance makes the game a lot more dynamic.

[cosmic swan]

A class who's fast as fuck and can heal? Play Druid

[subtle heart]

“should i take this fight or am i too low” “can i bandage fast enough or will the sound attract those players i hear” are cool thoughts to have while playing a dungeon crawler

[royal star]

No not fast as fuck, just moves like a normal human. Idk if you guys just have motor function problems but no human should be walking this slowly and swinging a 5lb bit of metal this slowly

[cosmic swan]

Go play Apex Legend or Warzone. This game is meant to be like that, if you don't like a core fonction of the game you might just mlay something else

[desert orchid]

is EU frankfurt server cooked rn lagging so bad

[royal star]

Yea I get that but when half the match is spent sitting after a fight because it was a close match it's just not fun. The healing in this game is excrutiatingly slow

[noble bronze]

bring more meds? bring better meds like surges? bring campfires?

[royal star]

So in your opinion if someone has a problem with a game they should just play something else instead of voicing that problem?

[cosmic swan]

Of course not but you'r asking to change a core thing of the game. That's not happening. It's the same as asking to add gun in the game (i'm exagerating but you get my point)

[subtle heart]

thats real. i think we just fundamentally disagree. excruciatingly slow healing is big part of dark and darkers appeal for me. maybe they could amplify healing in beginner lobbies idk.

[royal star]

I don't see how the attack speed being incredibly slow has to be a core thing of the game. I get slow methodical gameplay but playing as Cleric and Fighter there really isn't anything methodical about it. You either walk in a circle around the enemy while hitting combos or you just hit, block, hit, repeat

[eternal helm]

why does my longsword not parry

[cosmic swan]

Well i'm sry but that's what I said. You want to play another game, the game is slow and is meant to be slow

@eternal helm Read that for the parry #q-and-a message

[royal star]

The parrying is a bit weird, you need to tap right mouse button after your sword clanks

[eternal helm]

alright thank you

[half vessel]

They need to make ranged/spells less accurate. If I wanted to play an fps extractor id play tarkov.

[spare elbow]

What are wizard and ranger supposed to do then? Lol

[cosmic swan]

Well I guess some people would say "Removed from the game" xD

[royal star]

Again, I understand a game being slow and methodical. But the combat is anything but. The PvE just becomes either walking in a circle around the enemy to "Dodge" their attack while you spam attacks or just having a constant back and forth of one hit, block, one hit, block, etc. Meanwhile the PvP is seemingly 100% based on movement speed where the faster person is almost guaranteed to win either by just picking off their health from range as they can't catch up to you

[spare elbow]

I already own chivalry

[half vessel]

Either they are accurate and should be slow as hell, or they can be fast but innaccurate.

[royal star]

That would make an interesting skill tbh

[cosmic swan]

Well we can agree that we won't be agree I guess xD

[royal star]

Higher accuracy but slow charge up time or lower accuracy but faster charge up. Similar to that Fallout 3/nv perk

[spare elbow]

It does kind of suck how important movespeed is though, not that i dont want to move faster, but i dont want to spend 1k per piece of gear to compete in HR because you need MS on every gear piece

[royal star]

That's what I'm saying. Movement and Attack speed are the most important things in this game and it's basically solely because the base movement speed is unrealistically slow

Like if they buffed the default movement and attack speed of those classes to be more realistic than buffing for movement and attack speed on classes like Rogue would still be really useful but it wouldn't be such a big buff. It would also make those classes more fun to play

[half vessel]

I would actually be interested if they had a test server where everyone is the same movespeed. No sprints, no putting away weapons to run faster.

[long compass]

What classes are those classes?

[royal star]

I don't think everyone should be the same movement speed, Rogue should still be faster than Fighter as a base, but Fighter/Cleric just need to walk more realistically because atm you'd think his kneesdon't work well

[half vessel]

I dont think rogue should be going in the ms direction. I think they should steer rogue toward the ambush direction.

[tame pebble]

gotta fix the rubberbanding ass servers

[long compass]

They can ambush already, cant deal 200 damage on the 100 hp bar

[half vessel]

I mean rogue design should be about ambushing, not about just running away and shooting and stuff. I think movespeed is the bane of this game atm

[rustic laurel]

how do i make cobalt armor

[white saffron]

is there a video or guide yall reccomend on ap farming this season ?

[royal star]

Tbh basically all of the classes I've played feel super slow and slugging to play making the combat, both PvE and PvP, very slow and not very engaging. Mainly though I would say Fighter and Cleric but overall I feel like everything in this game is super slow. Arrows fly slow, you walk like your geriatric, your fighter swings a 5lb sword like you have twig arms, etc.

[split rapids]

the bane of this game is not having different gear score tiers for dungeons. you should not be in the same game with players with 3, 4, and 5 hundred gear score when i have anything above 25. that by itself is killing this game for me could be a good game but not with that.

[royal star]

You actually can't I don't think. People believe they shadow added a 25-124 GS bracket

[rustic laurel]

they made the 25-124 gear score so its KIND of balanced

[split rapids]

me and my buddies just died 3 time in the high roller to over 500 gear score and we had around 100 each

[idle pewter]

no gs brackets in hr

[split rapids]

yeah that is dumb, i can understand there being a bigger gap for gs in high roller like the lowest to 250. then like 250 to 500 or something but not just put everyone in one.

[idle pewter]

@split rapids that's literally what high roller means, everything goes

[noble bronze]

Because people being able to farm ranks in bis 249 would be dumb. a legitimate free for all where anything goes is better

[unborn moss]

can clerics use visored barbuta helm

[sand zenith]

Playerbase isn’t big enough to be dividing the HR queue into gear brackets.

And people would just farm AP at the lowest bracket possible.

[split rapids]

no if it was 250 it would not be a free farm more people would be around the higher end at 249 and would be a better fight. not i have 200 gs and run into 500 gs and have no chance

[sand zenith]

HR gets completely dead at some points, gs queues would again dilute it more.

[noble bronze]

we literally had GS in HR before, people were cringe and ran BiS 299 when the GS settings were 0-299 and 300-Yes. You shouldn't be able to get ranked rewards from fighting weaker people, not even getting into the issues of diluting players

[high sapphire]

hr gs is cringe tbh. makes sense for norms tho

[royal star]

Ngl I feel baited. Thought HR would be the happening spot but apparently it's not really played often so buying the full version of game was pretty useless

[echo turtle]

HR is great for trying to get good loot. Play PVP in normals and farm in HR.

[digital magnet]

WE WANT RUINS

[sand zenith]

HR is an extremely good place to farm gear, you get access to the market so you can actually spend your gold on items for a better pvp experience. You also get more character slots and essentially infinite stash space with the shared stash between characters.

[royal star]

Ik yea but I was never really struggling with any of that stuff anyway. Even with access to the market I don't really end up spending enough to have made selling stuff on the market necessary

[sand zenith]

More about buying, what are you spending your gold on if you can’t guy gear?

[royal star]

You can buy from the market without Legendary status

[sand zenith]

Wait really? I thought you couldn’t access it at all?

[royal star]

No you just can't sell items on the market, only a single character slot, and access to HR. Honestly if I coulda just bought the extra character slots on their own I would've since it's the only thing I use

[dense chasm]

[whole geyser]

has the problem with player not being able to log on fixed yetr

[drowsy iris]

Is it ever correct not to wear Occultist Boots on a warlock? The stat loss seems so substantial.

[rotund pawn]

I used to play warlock a lot and I always swapped them for max movespeed light foot boots ms is super good on any class

[brazen tapir]

What do you think is the most newb friendly class for someone ?

[royal star]

Fighter or Cleric

[rotund pawn]

Agreed fighter or cleric

[brazen tapir]

cleric!? really? ok ty!

[high sapphire]

pretty easy to learn spell casting and fighting tbh. never thought of that

[rotund pawn]

Good intro to the spell system of the game while still being able to be great at melee

[brazen tapir]

funny enough i thought warlock would be best for her but appreciate the feedback

[dense chasm]

good take jk

[royal star]

Yea it's basically a fighter with self healing and buffs

[tardy sandal]

Weapons kinda mid though, every other weapon in the game feels better then the blunt weapons

[brazen tapir]

thanks everyone!

[royal star]

Ehh, maybe swords. Overall tbh I feel like the weapons just feel kinda mid. They're basically all a 3 hit kill on the common enemies so all that matters is attack speed

[subtle heart]

definitely fighter

[winter urchin]

We getting a huge patch in the next couple days or what?

[stuck sage]

does anyone know if add phys damage works with panther?

[ornate osprey]

how do I make it so i can craft cobalt armour with my collectors, do i have to do their quests or what?

[calm copper]

clerics are cringe

[slim flower]

yup cant believe no nerf announced yet

[dense chasm]

nerf cleric 🤓

[lucid acorn]

Game crashed as we searched for a match, relaunched my game and tried to use the reconnect feature, it then returned me to the lobby informing me I could not return to the match and both of my teammates were in game, I was back in the lobby however all of my redstone and bluestone purchased items had been wiped from my account, still had my gear equipped. I relaunched the game again and was greeted with the same message, I tried to click ok and join the match but it kept returning me to the title screen saying I would lose my gear if I did not reconnect, I opted to not reconnect this time and lost all of my gear this time, teammates ended up dying to a spawn rush.

[ocean grail]

Ranger or Rogue for solo HR?

[obsidian shell]

cleric

[bleak totem]

just died because of rubberbanding rip to all my gear. i was winning the fight too </3

[wise rain]

Does anyone know when next wipe is?

[formal moon]

Welcome to dark and darker

[dense bay]

anyone else having server problems?

[gritty umbra]

Same, getting failed to connect to server. Just gotta sit and wait and hope i suppose 🙂

[harsh knoll]

whats max ms?

[maiden bough]

can anyone help me kill cyclops in normal duo real quick? just want it done for my quest dont care about the loot

[chrome vault]

does anyone know what happens if ur body drops off the map in frost? does my body become recoverable?

[limber pewter]

If i always put gold into my shared stash, does that all my characters have the same amount of gold? am i high?

[tribal walrus]

i was a huge fan back in 2023 and even earlier with the playtests, after coming back to the game it feels like they dont want people to pvp anymore. this new system with the new exits (ropes, lifts, ect.) allows you to clear one room the whole raid and sit there not roaming the map. The old system with the portals and closing zone forced people together into a smaller area guaranteeing you would interact with other players at some point if you wanted to get out with your stuff.

[thin flicker]

didn't play back then but i agree, the amount of solo lobbies i play where i don't come across anyone even when the lobby is full is too high

[tribal walrus]

ive played like 10 raids and i think i had maybe 2 fights

[south seal]

Can you chain lightning a hydra?

[sand zenith]

Kills give less AP (Rank) than skeletons, in high roller.

[jolly eagle]

Yes, I'll have to find the video but I saw a pair of YouTubers do it

@south seal

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3_qwUH7fxDp9Xu70vxrGaQLozLF6dPXW?si=ny4xF7NqjQAo7J6C

[queen karma]

crazy we didnt get a patch today... lol

[subtle heart]

Why do people keep saying 125 in lfg? Did that change the bracket so it's <25, >25<125?

[tribal walrus]

im missing the high octane raids from a year ago where you would get into a fight with your team and other players early in the raid, then your teammates die and you would have to sneak around and avoid other players in an increasingly smaller area to get out alive. now I run around for 9 minutes killing Ai and the only people i see are dead players who cant fight mobs

[spark trout]

an assumed stealth drop of gear bracket change has recently grazed the community, with a wiki update that suggests it to be true

[sand zenith]

Yeah I’m from the play tests and I agree.

[sleek vector]

is there an lfg discord server for dark and darker ?

[manic shell]

The game just bricked without zone, thx to all the "pro" player who asked for it, now the game life expectancy is lower.

[hollow sigil]

This is it

[jaunty topaz]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1011086062845706282

[fallen shuttle]

Please for the love of god fix your audio with panther. You cannot hear panther when it's behind you. Why add more classes instead of actually working on the core mechanics of the game that aren't fully polished yet. Zero sense

[sleek vector]

omg thank you i did not scroll past the voice channels im used to other lfgs where its at the top

[limpid robin]

Gamre crashes when trying to turn in cobalt ore

[gleaming iris]

cant play the game, cant choose any character/"enter the dungeon" on any character

[fallen shuttle]

Typical Dark and darker gameplay

[hollow sigil]

can you doom post somewhere else?

[neat thistle]

Did they nerf panther damage recently?

[hollow sigil]

They haven't done a patch since the 24th so i guess it determines how recently you are talking about

[turbid jungle]

Do Reward Tokens carry over to new seasons, or reset each season?

[hollow sigil]

supposed to reset they just forgot this past wipe

[stiff wedge]

bro wtf does the cyclops reset his cave rumbling if you get hit. the guy just kept going and never stopped?

[hollow sigil]

its a dps check you have to do a certain amount of dmg for it to stop it happens twice in norms and 3 times in HR

[stiff wedge]

oh im dumb i was just tryna to do all the jumps lol

[hollow sigil]

yeah the safest way to dps him is standing behind him and jumping sideways when the rocks hit but the fastest is to let him hit the floor once then stand in front of him while he swings left and right and hit his head and if you don't stop him by then you will have to move because he swinging forward again

[fallen shuttle]

Please fix your audio i've already made a bug report this shit is crazy since last emergency patch it's been fucked.

[fallen shuttle]

Lmao can you take a joke and stop glazzin devs

[hollow sigil]

its not a joke if you mean it lol and i never said the devs were perfect or that the game was either but doom posts do nothing but just be negative

[vast halo]

anyone know if there will be craftable rubysilver gear this season?

[hollow sigil]

Should be coming out this thursday with new quests

[grave veldt]

How much would a +21 Luck Sallet be worth

[sand zenith]

The game had 2k players before the change lol.

[manic shell]

Yep, cause no one know this game exist after the lawsuit coming in.

Now after it released in steam and advertised in SGF2024, seen by tens of millions people, also added by hundreds of thousand impression everyday in steam and thousands of new players every day, how many player right now again?

[hollow sigil]

if that is the only roll on it nothing luck is not a very looked for stat at least primairly

[sand zenith]

40-70k > 2k

[manic shell]

Wrong, even that number is low after all advert and a new game on steam.

But its lower than that, its 25k and declining everyday.

[grave veldt]

What about a Vigor 1 and +40 Luck Bear Pendant

[hollow sigil]

let me ask this first do you know how/are you able to price check on the market place?

[grave veldt]

No I don't have a level 20 character yet

[hollow sigil]

ok so no its not worth it but i would keep anything blue or above until you reach lvl 20 and then price check it to the market MOST green items are not worth much

[grave veldt]

Gotcha I thought luck items would be worth a lot

[hollow sigil]

nah the stat is pretty useless it doesn't really do much especially because most will just use luck potions and its taking up a potential modifier that could improve your stats such as max health or dmg

[grave veldt]

Makes sense

[fallen shuttle]

Please for the love of god fix the game breaking bug of audio from behind that you guys just utterly fucked into oblivion. PLAY YOUR GAME

[sand zenith]

Just like the play tests I’m here for a good time not a long time.

[noble bronze]

Of things that are worth money:
Survival bows, rapiers, good morningstars, good bucklers, rings that are at least blue( except resourceful) good armor that is at least blue (armor, pdr, health rolls). Good rondell daggers, etc

[grave veldt]

Ok I will def look out for that then ty

[subtle heart]

Anyone knows the exact range of hearing others footsteps in the game? And does crouching influence that?