game-discussion

[glossy barn]

Yes. Yes it is. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B_tYY0B3OrA

Devs knew it would turn out like this too. It’s why they fought against including solo mode for so long until they all took ketamine and spent too long reading this discord of bad ideas

[supple pier]

Solo mode is fine. Some people just prefer playing alone.
Plus solo has the added benefit of not needing to wait for someone else to be ready to queue up.

[lone garnet]

And there was and still is no way to queue up with randoms

[gilded prairie]

In my opinion there's a lot of solo players becaue trios are starting to fracture as people lose interest in the game. I went from a dedicated 3 man to usually playing solo because we're all a little bored of the game

[vapid arch]

at what point does the responsibility of the game state fall onto the devs instead of the community

[humble slate]

@glad thunder is there a hotfix this week? warlock/wiz op in 3s. people are just running triple warlock at this point and sniping every geared team. when is new matchmaking system coming out?

[gilded prairie]

That's where I think a lot of the disagreement on MC comes from as well from my experience. Multiclassing in trios felt amazing to me because we had so many different comps and 'metas' we could mess around with. Now, it's just back to the same old builds.

But I do recognize that MC in solo was likely a very different experience; being dominated by sprint or dps classes.

[gilded prairie]

I agree with it taking away from class indentity; but it added MILES of player identity. I was able to make a build that worked well for me; that not everyone would enjoy; but reflects my playstyle.

I always felt that they should really focus on getting the 'Arena' mode out as soon as possible so we have more avenues to PvP, fight friends, create tournaments, etc - and have mutli-classing be available at the Arena.

The dungeons would be left vanilla, and be further developed into a legitimate dungeon crawler rather than the battle royale / PvP mode it is currently

[dry marten]

Thus splitting the already small player base? I don't think that is their goal, although Arena mode would be cool. What they need to do is find a happy medium and use the data they get from the player base to possibly remove basically dead servers or merge some into some central location. From there they need to figure out a better matchmaking system and finish the Druid and continue working on a lower level for goblin caves and frost mountain.

Other than Arena, what else could they possibly add to the game besides maps/lower levels/new classes? MC is gone, they won't bring that back, it was proven that it made some builds far too strong and gave access to perks/abilities that the class should never have access to to begin with. Arena would be fun if it had a matchmaking rating like say WoW does for 2s/3s even possibly 5v5s could happen.

I think alot more people would be inclined to play HR if there was a safety box for say 3 of the items you had on also

[indigo cape]

ditch dungeons make a persistant map and mke a building system. thn you would have the best game alive.

[lone garnet]

Arena kills the main mode of the game as it splits playerbase

[wind venture]

I just stood on a fucking trap thjat brought me from 100%-0% as I heard it tragger 50 times within a second.. I what a terrible game

[gilded prairie]

That bug's been around for over a year now haha

[hazy meteor]

,

[wind venture]

@gilded prairieAnd they still don't fix stuff that;'s been here for so long. Clearly shows they don't give a fuck about bugs and errors in the game.

[sullen hearth]

Anyone else think shriek of weakness is too OP/ lasts too long. The bards shut a door in your face and play that stupid song and then it last forever and all of the sudden 3 little rapier swings hits harder than 3 halberd or longsword swings cuz your shrieked. Makes so sense. In no world should a guy with a flute in a macaroni hat be able to take 3 longsword hits while 3 rapier hits kills the PDR fighter lol.

[frank spindle]

i think that adding more things to do to each module would encourage people to go into a dungeon with purpose. more people would be trying to get things done rather than it being a pvp slog fest where the one guy who got lucky to have 500 gear score in a 299 below lobby kills everyone. GC is a good example where bosses attract everyone like flies but since there is only one boss you can do easily there's a train of 4 people waiting to kill the one person lucky enough to spawn close

[grizzled gyro]

WHY DO YOU GUYS NOT FIX GAME CRASHES AND MOVE SPEED? THIS IS HORRIBLE

[zealous nova]

No update today?

[graceful storm]

iron face plz giv us some actual content its been so long

[undone peak]

i need a price check on kumas claw

anyone know what they go for with like +2 wep dmg and 3% pdb

[glossy barn]

Too bad they wasted 9 months on solo mode instead of their actual game, Dark and Darker

[formal moon]

[solar sage]

Lmao

9 months to make half of a class,feels bad man

oh oh and a multiclassing system that literally died in a month

[opal saddle]

Multiclassing was not so bad hope the new system is going to be fun.

[wise sorrel]

Steam when, game is dead and boring full of sweats playing a W+M1 game

[winter jackal]

Can’t believe IM endorses cheating

[glossy barn]

Can’t believe IM spent over a year talking about how they weren’t going to split the playerbase and development resources on a solo mode, only to split the player base and delay their games development by 9 months….on a solo mode.

[zealous nova]

Cheats are easy to obtain for this game, thats the reason its so easy to do so and not get banned

Perma bans need to occur, OR anti cheat that is better

[left smelt]

Do you guys even play the game or you just sit here and on Reddit to just keep complaining 95% of the time?

[wise sorrel]

Why would I play the game when it’s boring as fuck when it’s not on steam? I have to complain every couple months or they’ll keep their finger up there

[viral void]

Add content please

[cosmic swan]

Next wipe should be in 2-3 week and it come with a big patch

[scenic hornet]

Why does it have to be on steam to be fun?

[scenic hornet]

Solo and duo mode is amazing prob wouldnt ever play the game without it tbh

[fluid marsh]

Because then he can complain that there too many people and he keeps dying to pvp

[wise sorrel]

Cause the game is basically dead, no voip interactions, no normal players, just people who play 4-5 hours a day on the same game for months straight

[scenic hornet]

Clearly there are normal people i see noobs all the time, play norms and ull see plenty trust me lol

[dire topaz]

dude ez solution is queue rando team solo mode, u que into 3 man team as a 3 solos so u get wacky comps

[glossy barn]

Duo mode is the most balanced of the game modes because buff metas and triple warlocks aren’t viable team compositions.

There’s plenty of arguments to be made for keeping duo mode as an option.

Solo mode was the classic “give a mouse a cookie” where the mode was initial introduced as a minor mode, a warmup AT BEST, before friends or more players came on to fill random groups because as a community we were more tolerant of LFG before the option of solo mode.

Then solo mode players needed bosses, then they needed class balances around solo mode because some classes inherently are better suited for solo play.

Then solo players needed a new map because they were bored of playing goblin caves, because that’s all they were playing now that the mode was available.

Then after the new GC maps were made, and the cyclops was added, solo players needed access to all the maps.

So we tried map choice , which killed lobbies because every region was now split into 18 different lobbies encompassing the different team sizes on all maps between normal and high roller game modes.

Then solo players complained that the mob density on maps not designed for solo players was too challenging, so they cried until Devs changed mob density on ice caves and crypts.

Now, 9 months later, we have a dwindled playerbase with solo players unironically complaining about the lack of content, completely obtuse to the fact they are the reason we don’t have druid, ruins, an ice dragon, combined hell lobbies, a working talent tree or multi class system, or additional races like dwarves.

[analog spire]

nah, the game is dead because of cheaters. the only mode that has players rn is solo. this is cope and trios suck

[cosmic swan]

Your are right on many point, but if they're is that much solo player maybe it's good to try keeping them on the game? If the majority of solo player leave the game, it become as "dead" as it is right now. A lot of player discovered and stayed on the game thx to Solo and Duo. Even if IM was focusing on trio content I'm not that sure that it would have make as many people start the game or stay on the game

[glossy barn]

Just straight facts, the reality that you respond to these facts like snails in a salt bath is the definition of coping

[analog spire]

everyone is allowed to be wrong and you are wrong, sorry bud. you dont play the game

[cosmic swan]

xD He dare to say that when he blame cheater to be the main problem of the game

[glossy barn]

Weird nonsensical projection coming from someone who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Like a guy claiming the g spots a myth to protect his fragile masculinity 🤭

[cosmic swan]

I don't agree with @glossy barn on his conclusion but he made constructive argument and are right on many of them.

But imo it's not what is making the game worst, or split the community

[hollow fulcrum]

give us back only trios and deny solo/duo players well have fun again hahaha

[scenic hornet]

Solo is bis

[glossy barn]

I’ll accept that honesty without criticism, for my vitriol is my own.

Been here since PT1 and I’ve loved this game since. Has made me sad to see what was a cooperative extraction experience with team expression get turned into “solo players open chests in PVE environment for shiney cape”

[steady torrent]

I see that you guys are planning on showing up for the Summer Games fest. I really hope you guys have a plan for keeping the wave of new players around because with the state of the game right now, I feel like a lot are gonna be scared off because of how unfriendly the beginner experience is

[graceful storm]

thats what we thought last season then they added 4 extra weeks for the normals leader board

[cosmic swan]

Hope it will be faster this time

[heady trench]

What server you on? I only go against sweats even in norms

[heady trench]

Facts, game is getting too sweaty and no new players. Hard to have fun anymore. New players get rolled too, pretty unfriendly to new players for sure

[night ridge]

just logged in since last leaderboards why cant i collect any rewards ?

[cosmic swan]

You need to select the good season and group size on the leaderboard tab

[stray bay]

I am the only one tired of "rat gameplay".
After some 30 hours of playing i keep running into people (as fighter), in which they almost all proceed to taking their magic or long range weapons and start blasting. I've even resorted to almost no armor and the sprint perk, but still, i can't get to them, due to my shield and if i dont have the shield i die before i can get close to them, due to them being the same speed now.
I know the game is about strategy, and the occational positioning and usage of the dark, but i just feel like there are "rat gamers" everywhere.

It might just be me being bad though. Just very frustrating to play a fighting game in which i only get to actually fight someone (and not play dodge simulator until i die, because all long range weapons have no weight) once every 10th player encounter

[night ridge]

Im on the old leaderboard list and oon the right group size ????? any other ideas the icons for the rewards are lit up but cant interact with them

[high smelt]

i havent played this game in a while anyone got any idea of the state of bard atm?

[glossy barn]

Sounds like a solo mode problem. Devs should just get rid of the mode entirely. Y’all would FINALLY stop complaining about teaming too

[scenic hornet]

Remove solo and the game is dead no joke lmao solo mode is the only thing keep dnd alive imo

[cosmic swan]

I guess you are playing in solo from what you say? Ranged class are quit strong on solo but if you happen to play in duo or trio it get better. Try finding people to play with here on discord or with player you got a good fight or funny interaction. But if you keep playing solo I recommend you to try the other class, playing them help to understand how they think and what they can and can't do and that help to play against them too. You can also try other class, Rogue or Barbarian are good to fight ranged class and if you stick to fighter try playing with heavy armor it work good against ranger

[scenic hornet]

Game is all about kiting right now sadly

[limber badge]

Solo is the busiest game mode
Trios in 300+ is actually solo

[glossy barn]

Rip Dark and Darker then, game was better when devs stuck to their vision

[scenic hornet]

Solo > trios

[limber badge]

[glossy barn]

Ah yes, all 3000 of you keeping this game “alive” 🤭

[cosmic swan]

Nah it's just different both are really good

[stray bay]

Might just be at my skill que, or region, but it happens constantly with my duo aswell. 80% of all encounters are rangers with (fighter with bow, wizard or another ranger)

It is most probably also due to my own skill level, im sure, ahaha

[cosmic swan]

Well the game is hard and need a lot of learning, so yeah try playing all class and try different strat, comp etc 👍

[elfin fern]

can you sweatlords running naked lizard ranger and not even looting in normals please go back to hr and leave us wendigo farming timmies alone. please and thanks

[sterile quest]

Any1 know if i am able to make price check of an item in this discord?

[last pilot]

There is no skilled matchmaking.

[sick depot]

Who’s going to stop you?

[sterile quest]

wow cool guy

[rich sky]

Me.

[sick depot]

I mean if they removed solos there would probably be a significant drop in player count. Making the argument that this should have been avoided is valid but removing it now would do more harm than good.

[rough whale]

Where’s the patch bro

[spare sable]

Do you guys know how to fix a shadow bug ? i can't see like 3 feet in front of me, not the usual way

[scenic hornet]

Theres a lot more than 3k players but ok brug

[daring hazel]

Give rogue a new skill. “Pocket Sand” when used allows Rogue to throw sand if your eyes which will make you vision blurry like when the cyclops throws dirt at you…

[elfin fern]

bruh i cannot even get to the room to try and farm some sharpclaws without some dorito dork wqing toward me in norms. like dude are my 15 gold heals that important to you

[lone garnet]

you won't even find sharpclaws in normals, i've tried, went in hr found 4 quite fast plus you'll need 12 and 2 hoofs

[digital garnet]

bring back ruins pls?

[elfin fern]

i have found them in normals, they're just difficult - havent found any in hr either

quest should really be 2 claws

[sharp bear]

the amount of cheating rangers in this game is insane

[fleet jacinth]

Where can I find ruby silver ore in normals? Is it random whether it spawns?

[subtle folio]

every ranger you kill is a noob and every ranger who kills you is aimbotting 🧠

[sharp bear]

naw not aimbot they backtracking thru the map to find me mainly esp

[vapid arch]

ruby and gold only spawns in hell

[fleet jacinth]

Thanks. Just made it out on my first solo hell run with ruby and gold ore

What website can I find the most up to date maps?

[vapid arch]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N

i dont think its 100 percent accurate but its more or less

[fleet jacinth]

I’ve been hit or miss there

[pallid tree]

@glad thunder @rugged lintel @zinc sparrow @fleet imp @oblique isle How is it that I can go from no issues whatso ever but then after a patch I cant get two feet without rubber-banding? For the last two patches now this game has been absolutely unplayable! I didnt change any setting but for some reason now the game plays like im on a $20 computer. before you ask i have tried everything from running now potato settings to out right turning off the anti aliasing when it was on dlss before. I shouldnt be able to run tarkov, rust, siege, or any other game with no problems but come to this and lag like a im on mcdonalds wifi.

by the way that wasnt rhetorical, i really want to know. How you can stroke yourselves off about your lag and have it be the only game that lags on a higher end pc.

[lusty panther]

Patch tonight?!

[pallid tree]

hope to GOD it fixs the damn lag

[frozen umbra]

inferno spawns are the worst possible thing in the game, you either get a completely relaxed walk through to your area of choice or forced into PVE with like 4 mobs and since they are removing cheese spots. You can't really deal with them easily as a solo or duo.

[nocturne river]

when is next wipe

[frozen umbra]

Not any time soon

[outer ridge]

There will always be cheese

[gilded prairie]

Demons and centaurs are pretty easy to fight once you understand them and practice a bit

[frozen umbra]

In the room with the optional wraith, centaur and demon berserker. There isn't enough room and there should imo be a work around for all mobs. E.g, locking behind doors n' stuff.
In the spawn I mentioned that's not really an option.

[quick fern]

every class can easily solo and there is multiple work arounds in every room

[frozen umbra]

You are forced to interact with the demon centaur due to proximity and the trade off for getting hit as a rogue makes it a bad idea for them imo.

[quick fern]

???

[frozen umbra]

In the spawn I talked about previously. (mb I should of specified)

[quick fern]

every class can fight the mobs , cheese the mobs , or lock the mobs in

[winter jackal]

so like are cheats allowed now that they unbanned a confirmed cheater?

[quick fern]

the room youre talking about im pretty sure is the one with literally the most cheese spots in the game

[frozen umbra]

They removed a ton of them and the one that's left requires the archer from the top area to be killed, if you spawn in the area you cannot kill it before hand rendering the cheese spot useless unless you have range of some sort as you're gonna aggro mobs which are faster than you (namely the centaur)
If you can offer any cheese spots for the area I'd be happy as it's my main 'issue spot' with inferno.

[quick fern]

besides locking him into the room you spawned in , you can just stand on the rez table beside him and he cant hit you

thats literally the loot piniata room

[nocturne river]

299 makes no sense. should be max 200 w/ heals not counting.

[frozen umbra]

Didn't know that, neat.

[tardy sandal]

Can’t you also just matador him into the gap between wraith

[quick fern]

yeah theres a bunch of places u can get him stuck and the beserker and the 2 dogs or cheese them

[quick fern]

if you get close to him on top of the table he'll swing and you just jump when he swings

[minor narwhal]

when will we get hotfixes

[frozen umbra]

ok

[gilded prairie]

That's my favorite room to clear haha. There's tons of cheese spots; and there's enough room to fight centaur if you're watching demon to make sure he doesn't sneak up on you; then plenty of room to fight or cheese demon afterwards.

[frozen umbra]

Yeah I realize that now, thanks for solving my skill issue ❤️

[knotty nova]

You can also just fight the centaur in the room you spawn in without any risk of added aggro

You just have to not be bad enough to need to cheese it

Which isn't asking much considering it's the easiest mob in inferno

[frozen umbra]

Damn, no need to shit on me 😦

[gilded prairie]

We were all shit on until we learned ❤️

[knotty nova]

It's really easy to learn to dodge actually - just go to your left about 30 degrees when he rears up, if he does the second swing just duck

[frozen umbra]

doesn't he have two attacks tho

[knotty nova]

The other attack he has you can just duck and crouch in place

[gilded prairie]

Ryan 6 Days A Week has YouTube videos on how to dodge all the mobs. Highly recommend checking it out

[shadow bough]

^ dude makes great tutorial content on DaD

Am i the only one who feels that this wipe has become stale and boring. They should've never showed us the greatness of multiclass (besides balance ofc), makes this range and poke meta feel stale and unrewarding

[sonic scaffold]

what if they added a different sound for when you headshot someone like in rust? would be satisfying

[elfin fern]

ehh, good riddance

[shadow bough]

Yeah maybe while im away, this game can shape up to to its potential. At its current state the core gameplay loop doesn't feel rewarding as it used too.

[plush sky]

just came back to this game after a year or so? dont remember honestly. heres my question: items of green quality or higher can only be brought into high roller dungeons now? is that what im understanding?

[cosmic swan]

Dev said early June, so 2-3 week

[nocturne river]

thank you

[cosmic swan]

@elfin fern For the claw and hoof, on wiki it say that it's 7.5% drop for Norm and HR, it's same for both

[elfin fern]

i believe it, ive found a couple since then

[warped raft]

i love how the long sword over head swing reaches as far as a spear. k-pop coding at its finest

[knotty nova]

I love how you think a spear is used to thrust from the rear of the pole

[dire cedar]

Would still be much longer than a longsword tbf

[warped raft]

its garbage, stop squatting on it

[jagged drift]

when the multi class back？

[knotty nova]

A 4 foot sword swung with arms extended would be about the same as how a spear is thrust, lol

[warped raft]

arms are not extended with the overhead nor the reposte yet it still has the reach of a spear, it k-pop coding

[knotty nova]

It's literally how it's swung you're just coping cause you died

[warped raft]

and you are riding it like a sac

[knotty nova]

Not riding just pointing out how damaged you are in the head

[warped raft]

no you're def riding it and savoring it

[knotty nova]

Keep crying baddie only 1 of us died

Don't worry you can get your kit back from the squire

[warped raft]

you roll it around on your tongue, cuffing it gently

[knotty nova]

Someone's projecting

[frosty briar]

yo whens wipe supposed to be

[warped raft]

caress each and every follicle

[uncut bobcat]

only 5k people playing this dont look good gang

[scenic hornet]

Where do u see the 5k

[uncut bobcat]

go to the player list. it says 2.5k in dungeon and 2.5k in lobby

[cosmic swan]

"Finally, barring any surprises, the current season, including the preseason prior to the next wipe, is scheduled to end in early June" Patchnote of Hotfix 42

[cosmic swan]

So 2-3 week probably

[solar sage]

Heres my weekly checkup
Gayem still ded?

[woeful panther]

Game is basically the queen of England right now.

D e d

[solar sage]

Darnit

[vestal falcon]

The current Ap system is terrible for the game to be honest

I think the way AP is set up legit makes people play the game wrong PVP and dying should be part of the game but when you are grinding AP you can't die or you lose 1000 AP so it's a terrible system

[solar sage]

Imo the whole game is terrible

Like the pvp and stuff,just feels icky

[wanton finch]

is it a good sign when the game has a huge problem with c h e a t s and they unban the guy with 4x the AP of the best players whos a known cheater multiple seasons? 🧐

[solar sage]

I met a lot of things in this game,a problem I never had is cheaters

[jovial cloud]

Why are you guys even here lmao, if complaining was a profession ya'll would be millionaires

[wanton finch]

"well he came up with a 4th grade level excuse, i guess hes innocent"

[solar sage]

didnt meet a single cheater in my whole 1k hours

[wanton finch]

either you play exclusively normals or you just are oblivious. not trying to be rude in anyway

[solar sage]

Why are you here sucking of the devs?While you could quite literally suck to gain money?

[solar sage]

HR only,reached demigod on both seasons,I play on US east at peak time btw

[wanton finch]

before this patch? yeah almost no problem with it. but since this wipe its miserable

[solar sage]

Maybe its your region servers?

Heard that Australian servers are full of cheaters

[wanton finch]

i play us east too. it could be time of day depednant but i guarantee youve run into cheaters

[jovial cloud]

I don't play, or post here often, I looked for 5 seconds to watch tears stream from your eyes crying about the devs like they cheated on you or something

[wanton finch]

it could depend on your class too, if youre playing barb or something the rogue with esp probably isnt going to waste time hunting you down.

i just dont get why theyre going out of their way to unban people ruining there game thats all

[solar sage]

I come here once every week to milk the discord for all of its content

Like its a goldmine of delusional people

You have the delusional doomers,and the delusional dev suckers,and dont forget the "hot shots" that nobody know

[north shuttle]

its definitely a cesspit

[waxen totem]

"HR only,reached demigod on both seasons,I play on US east at peak time btw" "and dont forget the "hot shots" that nobody know" find a mirror bro. gaze into it.

[solar sage]

No,just told the guy that I played the game pretty consistently,and yete I couldnt find any cheaters

[waxen totem]

ye you prob busy toggling them on yourself

[solar sage]

Demigod isnt a flex,legit anybody can grind to it,its just bot farming

Demigod isnt about skill or pvp skill,its legit just looting simulator its awfull

[waxen totem]

we can agree on that last part

[wanton finch]

i mean if you grinded demi early in this season i could see it

[scenic hornet]

Always thought it was 2.5k dungeon running not 2.5k players in dungeon but ur prob right

[elfin fern]

@rugged pulsar thanks for playing drums with me in the lobby, but why'd you jump off the map

[jade nexus]

"Only completely solo kills will count, any assistance even from a random adventurer will not be accepted" Griefers are going to have a busy weekend

[royal violet]

they should add back ruins and keep the ruins>crypts>inferno and check the playerbase after one week of having it returned

[mild minnow]

i earn most of my money by selling common gear

[shadow bough]

That Version of DaD plus new ore spawns would be great

[grizzled gyro]

Just delete barbarian, you give them NO RANGED, AND NO MOVEMENT SPEED! THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING

[limber jolt]

Time to kill it's fucked! No fun.

[shadow bough]

I knew this game died when Peridios stopped coming here

[royal violet]

i just got ran down by a barb with 1000g of frannys and max move speed with a zwei out wtf are you on abt

[strong karma]

Game just died in my heart tn bye boys and girls ♥️

[quick fern]

nah ranger rogue heaven should be its own map not forced

[jaunty topaz]

I keep getting spawn rushed by ESPers

[quick fern]

there is set spawns you can look up

[jaunty topaz]

homie just has a really good gaming chair to prefire the xbow and headshot me huh

[acoustic lark]

Anybody else wish they would get rid of creeping it makes for boring gameplay

[mild sinew]

all they gotta do is reduce the drop rate of true/additional dmg and max obtainable 6 instead of 11 or whatever maybe only put true on gloves and jewelry only, and only 1 true is obtainable, 2 additional is obtainable (Frost Amulets unaffected) this would make the max dmg obtainable in game for melee or magic less than it is now, and i think that would only feel good, because if you want more dmg, you need phys power for it (strength) but yeah creep should just stay on Rogue

[past light]

Does being in a shield bash animation count as being in a "defenstve stance" for the purposes of barricade, shield mastery, etc.?

[frosty briar]

thanks g

[mossy vessel]

yes, buckler and round shield have the best directional defenense stance of the shield bashs

[past light]

Yeah but do I got the 50 armor and 50 mag res from barricade when I am doing it? Is what I am asking.

[mossy vessel]

ah i havent tested that, you can have open details pulled up first, then preform a shield bash and quickly press tab to see if your PDR changes during the animation

[past light]

Yeah I might have to.

[dreamy bridge]

@vagrant coral ay yall needa get rid of that fighter man

[clear arrow]

@vagrant coral dude has threw ya so bad twice now lmao

whys bro blocking fireballs and letting u get cut off two games in a row, GF tho fr wiz was cooking me for a bit

[obtuse shard]

@vagrant coral gg

[vagrant coral]

ggs

[dreamy bridge]

gg ❤️

ive fought you so many times youre always so god damn bis rich

[vagrant coral]

i try

fighter did troll but all g it happens

ggs tho u guys played well both fights

[clear arrow]

cleric ate a headshot fireball?

[dreamy bridge]

was wiz

[clear arrow]

you and cleric did too, i had to pressure wiz all the time or we might die

[vagrant coral]

ye i always get sold man lfgs u feel

[dreamy bridge]

btw im the wizard on our team sweetie~ whyd ya fighter shield tank the fbs?

[clear arrow]

^guy,male,man,YY chromosome

[dreamy bridge]

lmao

[vagrant coral]

72 mdr with skill

[dreamy bridge]

he had 72 with that kit?

[vagrant coral]

while blocking

[dreamy bridge]

ohhhhhhhh

[obtuse shard]

he shoulda just ate me up he just walked past me and went so far from yall

[clear arrow]

twice he just walks away form the cleric, and lets me get between

[vagrant coral]

ye

he is sleepy rn

[dreamy bridge]

also, youre such a high tier high skill player. why you always doing LFGs instead of friends? ive fought you a bunch

[vagrant coral]

friends?????? what is that?

[clear arrow]

nates discord has a bunch of good lfg players, sent inv if uw anan see it

[vagrant coral]

no most my friends dont play this game and the ones who do r bad

[dreamy bridge]

ah gotcha gotcha

[clear arrow]

those annoying warlocks we just killed them again for the 3rd time, for sure swipers lol

[cosmic swan]

Just tested it and it don't seem's too work. The icon of barricade or shield mastery don't appear while shield slam animation, and stats don't seem's to move

I don't even think you can block a hit within the animation

[past light]

That is a shame. I thought there was a chance it would work because the shields hitbox being active might be what makes the "defensive stance".
You can definitely block a hit with it, seen it done though not done it myself. ;p
Best use case is probably when you are hugging a barb to try and block a felling axe at the hilt, get some free damage in the process.

[cosmic swan]

Ok my bad I only tested it a while ago and if i rembember well blocking while the animation wasn't a thing

Oh look at the annoucement channel!

Annnnnnnd i'm sad now...

Well i guess they're focusing on the upcoming patch coming with the wipe (hope so)

[white magnet]

BRING BACK MULTICLASSING OR YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM MY LAWYERS

[cosmic swan]

Really is a shame, after further testing it's worst than i thought. You can indeed block a hit whit shield bash but i guess the game don't consider that a "Defensive stance" so you don't get the 50% action speed for the next block from the perk

Didn't test it with the +10 ms and action speed for 3s after a block

[past light]

Do you know when the wipe is?
I only got the game a couple weeks ago and playing from the start of a wipe sounds like a better time.

[cosmic swan]

"Finally, barring any surprises, the current season, including the preseason prior to the next wipe, is scheduled to end in early June" Patchnote of Hotfix 42

[winter tinsel]

In June

[past light]

OK cool ty.

[winter tinsel]

Np, it could be early June.. no date exact yet. And early wipe is cool, especially when no one is in HR yet and everybody is low lvl and poor af.. tho if usually doesn’t last long

And the other thing is no body has quests done so it’s true default kit; not the upgraded versions from squire

[past light]

Yeah it sounds just a bit more fair.
I know it won't last that long but I think it'd be nice to feel like I am progressing alongside everyone else.

[glossy barn]

At the very least let fighters have Backstep again 😄

Made melee combat feel a bit more dynamic for a few weeks, I liked that

[past light]

The only multiclass I want to see is druid with pickpocket.

[glossy barn]

The classic “Rat Pocket” build

[white magnet]

that rat stole my pavise

[glossy barn]

😂

[past light]

If you pickpocket a druid in rat form you should just pick them up and put them in your inventory as an item.

[glossy barn]

like Mincs’s Boo? The miniature giant space hampster?

[flint dune]

how to get the most hp from a hydra and lifedrain?

i have like 35 will and it does not feel like im pulling much hp

[twin magnet]

True damage or a high quality staff

[pallid grove]

Wish they introduce something new into class system since multiclass is gone, cause game is back to barb meta I guess

[chilly kettle]

this game still alive in oce?

[bitter citrus]

is it still alive anywhere?

[cunning flower]

East server typically fills in my recent experience unless you are on at an odd hour.

[jaunty grail]

its warlock meta bra

[pallid grove]

Same sh different day

[jaunty grail]

well at least your not like me grinding away solo with cleric its hell here they hate solo clerics

[pallid grove]

I abandon the game since multiclass gone, no fun at all, same grind as it was before 😦

[jaunty grail]

weird they didnt do a patch today and multi needed work just I wanted to extra class things that used to be on that page

[glossy barn]

I hate solo clerics too. I hate all solo players. They ruined dark and darker

[scenic hornet]

Still hating on solo ? 😂

[digital dock]

My optomistic theory is that they were pushing hard to get the "ruins" map back in the game this week, but they fell short. So instead of releasing a patch without ruins they are going to double down for the next patch.

[sick depot]

Don’t get bro started

[glossy barn]

Still? You new here my dude?

Try always

Devs spent a year saying they weren’t going to split the playerbase or their development time on an isolated group of new generation gamers incapable of making online friends.

It’s why all contents been delayed for the last 9 months

Because devs went back on their word

[sick depot]

Oh BROTHER this guy stinks

[sinful gull]

bruh, holy shit he is still going? its months of spamming the channel with this nonsense now...

[glossy barn]

Nonsense? You mean facts? It’s funny how all the solo players who ratted to Demi god take such offense to facts like snails in a salt bath 😂

[digital dock]

For the next "community event" we should have a behind the scenes documentary and inside look at the Ironmace offices. We need to know they are not bullshitting us at this point.

[glossy barn]

https://youtu.be/B_tYY0B3OrA?si=CSOlgRl-Tfi8ezaY

[sick depot]

In this old ass video Ironmace isn’t even shooting down the idea of a solo mode

[glossy barn]

Doug you’re dumb 😂 they SPECIfiCALlY talk about how they hate the idea of solo mode and the reasons it will never be included in the game

this was a few months before GC was introduced and we began bleeding players

due to lack of content and focusing on a solo game mode devs never wanted in the first place, for reasons outlined in the video 😂

Solo players respond to facts like snails in a salt bath, prolly why y’all struggle to make online friends in the digital age

[sinful gull]

how is everybody dumb except you? do you not realize that, if 80% of people disagree with you, maybe this is a you problem and not a us problem? Maybe solo should stay in if 99% of the playerbase wants it but 1 angry guy in discord doesnt? nah?

[glossy barn]

Solo players ruined dark and darker, cope harder and watch the video in case you start believing you’re right again 😂

https://youtu.be/B_tYY0B3OrA?si=CSOlgRl-Tfi8ezaY

[sinful gull]

We saved the game, they made goblin caves because the stats showed them that they actually have more solos than trios. And NOBODY of us wanted gc when it came out all we wanted is solo crypts your points hold no water. If they didnt cater towards us I wouldnt be here argueing and probably not alot of solo players would be here, just you alone, playing a dead game...

[glossy barn]

Saved the game? All 3000 of you? 😂😂😂

Quite a hero complex for someone who can’t handle simple facts 😂

That’s because you didn’t watch the video you pedantic wet napkin 😂

[scenic hornet]

Without solo mode dnd wouldve been dead months ago also GC is best map in the game

[glossy barn]

Good, then go to the time stamped section labeled “solo mode?”

You’re so full of crap lol

Solo mode players, what color is the sky in your multiverse where you think you saved Dark and Darker instead of permanently hamstringing it? I’m dying right now 😂😂😂

[sinful gull]

Why are you here? play a game that doesnt feature solo mode. This one is over for you buddy.

[glossy barn]

No, you just have poor auditory comprehension skills. Try watching the video with subtitles on

[glossy barn]

I’ve been here since PT 1 and my buddy an I duo in trio crypts. I have more right to be here than any solo player whose ever complained about “the lack of content” 😂

[echo sparrow]

more right? lol

[sinful gull]

I counted one guy in all of these messages of us going back and forth that actually agreed with you. Everybody else tells you otherwise. How are you unable to question your takes. There also isnt a line between solo and duo or trios most people play all of them and just dont allways have a party available and dont wanna go 1v3.. you are not considering that at all, I play solo cause I have to for my working situation and private things it isnt my choice at all.

[glossy barn]

The 100 people in this cord aren’t everyone, careful not to fall from that duct taped pedestal you’ve constructed in lieu of a soap box

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, what Devos charter school let you draw your own calligraphy degree?

Oh you sweet summer child 😂😂😂😂

this is top tier solo pretentiousness

Thinking you’re right when you’re dead wrong lololol

No wonder y’all can’t make online friends in the most digital age we’ve ever had in this playthrough

[sinful gull]

So you are just gonna ignore the fact that he isnt even a solo player but disagrees with you ?

[glossy barn]

Dude you’re coming in with bad points an a very poor understanding of the construction of the English language 😂😂

[sinful gull]

everytime somebody ownes you, you pretend it didnt happen xD

[echo sparrow]

guy has to talk big in discord because he cant do it in the dungeon lel

[sinful gull]

that how you maintain your position very clever playing mindgames on yourself

[glossy barn]

Alpha, put your hand down. I’ll call on you when it’s your turn

[glossy barn]

What color is the sky in your world my dude? 😂😂

[echo sparrow]

pro tip, if you just ignore him, he will spiral like the rest of them

[sinful gull]

exactly dont respond keep distracting when you take a L, doesnt matter what we think if you can convince yourself that you are right.

[digital dock]

cough weirdo

[cold spire]

Hey bro whats up. Long time since we've spoken. I see youre still alive so i guess those psychopathy meds you said you were taking do work after all. How is everything? is the reddit karma farming going good? How about any new insults from that generator you have? Good catching up gotta go now dont be a stranger!

[sinful gull]

ik but he is kind of wholesome, so i havent done it yet. I really should though.

he called somebody a bad lover in midst of these solo debates once..

[digital dock]

he reminds me of that chat bot that was built into AOL instant messenger

[sinful gull]

haha.. spot on!

[sick depot]

Bro talks about others not being able to make friends but there’s no way this guy has any genuine friendships

[kindred dust]

this game died so hard i remember when the discord was alive

[glossy barn]

Did it? I thought solo players saved the game? 😂😂😂

all 3000 of them ratting in empty dungeons for Demi god wasn’t good for the game?? Shocking!!!

[kindred dust]

bro just looking at the activity here is sad compared to what it used to be

[glossy barn]

I’m aware man….I miss the before times

[kindred dust]

multiclassing really fucked the game up

[glossy barn]

game was dead before multiclassing, that’ll happen when you spend 9 months on a solo game mode instead of your actual game

[kindred dust]

i think it had potential but multiclassing made the game so goofy and everything was unpredictable

barely any counterplays anymore. just min maxing shit gear and having op class perks

sad and sadder

[glossy barn]

Don’t worry though, the solo players saved dark and darker! That’s why we have 50k regular players on daily!

It’s why the druid was released on time!

And ruins has been fixed and reintroduced!

And the ice dragon boss is finished!

And hell lobbies are combined and always full!

Thank Jebus solo players kept the game alive along enough for it to be in the excellent state it’s in 😂

[kindred dust]

without a steam release the games fucked

[glossy barn]

Even with steam release, Dark and Darker didn’t blow up in there early PT’s because it was a solo PVE adventure lite.

They misallocated resources for too long

[spiral epoch]

nah, just think the devs need to take their time even more. keeping up with the expectations of major additions to the game every few months when they're still experimenting in alpha is asinine. I'm glad they're keeping things internal more.

[kindred dust]

yeah it was big because u can dungeon crawl w friends

[kindred dust]

idk multiclassing overhaul made me straight up quit. changes big like that should be left in the test server

[glossy barn]

Solo players don’t need friends. They have their shiney capes obtained by opening chests in PVE environments lol

[spiral epoch]

I absolutely agree, that was a huge mistake and they should keep these things to a test server (which people paid for). I just think they're decent developers who are excited about their first game as an indie dev and have made community mistakes in the process. They saw that they won't have major promises done by the time they allotted, so they released something experimental when they shouldn't have.

[gusty root]

Funny part is that peak players count was during MC. this says it all

[kindred dust]

oh yes im sure its working out great now

[kindred dust]

agreed they got to eager tho

[gusty root]

I still think they should have kept MC until end of season. Maybe not what some players wanted but at least you stay logic.
now it's just confusing for everybody

[kindred dust]

i think the removal of it to rework should have been done as soon as possible

something that unbalanced in pvp is just soul sucking for newbs or non 9-5 dark and darkers

[gusty root]

can't agree with you... if you have not rework the feature just don't remove it, makes sense. Wouldn't have hurt to wait a few more weeks

[spiral epoch]

yeah have to agree with this, it made normal dungeons no longer on equal grounds

[gusty root]

Now people who enjoyed MC are gone and people who did not enjoy MC in the first place didn't come back

[kindred dust]

yeah it would hurt as you are seeing now players have dropped off the game like flies

[kindred dust]

mc was never the game if ur sad its gone u love to abuse broken shit

[glossy barn]

If only the games development wasn’t hard stalled for 9 months so gen Z gamers incapable of making friends had a safe place to play a solo player game, online

[kindred dust]

exactly

[gusty root]

that's not the question... Doesn't matter if you love it or not. People were complaining about removing the MC and now look the numbers have never been that low

[kindred dust]

the fun of the game was hopping on different classes with friends and everyone having their own niche. multiclassing blurred those lines and ruined the flow of the game

[gusty root]

Where are the players shouting they will come back after MC removed ? Plain gone

[kindred dust]

they already left mc killed the game

gotta do something big to bring people back

they wont just come crawling back because of something that shoulda never been added got removed

[gusty root]

yeah so in the end removing it or not did not change anything except loosing more players...

[kindred dust]

if u kept it its bad for the health in the long run tho

smart to revert in my op

[gusty root]

meh. It was the only thing new this season, broken for sure but the game have always been broken anyway

[kindred dust]

yeah at least there was things you could expect

now its just chaos and unpredictable

good debate @gusty root glad to hear from ur side. thank u for scratching my long lost dnd itch

[gusty root]

I'm part of whatever you bring to the game i'm gonna have fun

[kindred dust]

i hope the best for this game just like u

they can do it just gotta not be so eager n test more

[gusty root]

what kills the fun is those back and forth that makes no sense

[kindred dust]

true they gotta be more careful w updates

[gusty root]

It was the same story in february, after the mid season the game was just meh

rotation then no rotation, then optional rotation. I understand we are testing things and that's great

[kindred dust]

yeah honestly i was ok w the map stuff tho it sucked. but it didnt remove class identities and the initial spark of the gane

but i agree

needa test or think ab stuff more before changing and changing back

[gusty root]

I think what's deceving people is the lack of communication. Ok we are going to try out things, let us know for how long : 1 week / 2 weeks / the whole season

Most players on discord were expecting a patch this week that could reajust the balance a bit and they are not going to do it

Let's hope they are cooking something big

[kindred dust]

agreed

[formal moon]

Lol, IM hasn't even been in the kitchen let alone actually cooking

[gusty root]

maybe, I just hope there are things we don't know and they expect to surprise us but I doubt

[formal moon]

Probably another system to grind that no one wants

[glossy barn]

Everyone complaining about the “lack of content” should remind themselves that 9 months of development time has been wasted on the solo game mode that certainly DIDNT save dark and darker.

Games development time line has been permanently delayed, the playbase fractured and completely unwilling to use LFG or play an online game with randoms, and now we get to watch the game continue to die because it stopped focusing on the cooperative and hardcore elements of the game that blew it up in the early playtests.

More players didn’t rush to buy Dark and Darker because solo mode was introduced, the trio players just stopped playing trios after the main game mode was sidelined for 9 months to appease the walking left swipes comprising the solo player population

[formal moon]

Been saying this for years. GC was the beginning of the end.

Every company that tries to change their base idea to attract more players just loses all players

[glossy barn]

Preach brother, I see you and your logic

[echo sparrow]

yall still in here arguing with that guy?

[glossy barn]

You’re bad at reading, im not surprised 😂

[pastel ingot]

whats the best way to level from level 1?

im just coming back to this game

[echo sparrow]

kill all the things, open chests, and most importantly, extracting with full inventories

[warped raft]

when did they shut down trios ?

[glossy barn]

They didn’t, they just stopped doing anything for trios for now 10 months which is why trio players left and only the solo players remained.

More players didn’t rush out to buy Dark and Darker because solo mode was added, it’s just that the people who loved this game in the early playtests felt ignored as devs went back on their word of including a solo mode, thus splitting the playerbase and forever compromising their development time

[warped raft]

what were they not doing for trios?

[glossy barn]

Yes. Devs killing their game after specifically outlining how solo mode would kill their game is indeed tiny violin sad

[glossy barn]

Answering this is a waste of my time 😂😂😂😂

[warped raft]

its all moot anyhow, whats killing the game is contantly turning it back into COD. HR is pointless with everyone gunning for one hit builds. this keeps getting voiced, then sort of fixed. then right back to gear with ridiculous stats. you are wasting your time. trios never went anywhere and without other options the game was going to get stale either way. no way this game would have made it staying with trio only. its not a matter of people not having friends, its a matter of time and not many have the luxury of always being on at the same time.

plus with the amount of punks who play this game, trying to find a group ends up being another nightmare all to itself

[rocky plover]

what are the odds of getting a skull key to spawn?

[glossy barn]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B_tYY0B3OrA

Devs knew adding a solo mode was a terrible idea as they said over a year ago.

Your point, and the points from every solo player are entirely moot lol.

Dark and Darker wasn’t supposed to be a solo player PVE game, as much as the Demi gods who ratted empty servers want it to be 😂

[warped raft]

so you selectively pick something that boosts your point. the devs have said and changed what they have said about plenty of things.

[glossy barn]

Nothing selective about an interview where Devs go in depth and explain how splitting the playerbase and development resources for a solo mode was a terrible idea.

It’s sad the devs took a bunch of ketamine and spent too long listening to this blender of bad ideas known as the games official discord

[warped raft]

i guess this was their only interview then? they have dont no other interviews where they have changed something they stated?

other than almost all of them lol

how long do you think players would have stuck around with trios only when they could not always find someone to play with and there were no other options?

i know i can only stomach 1v2 & 1v3 for so long when kit rinsing becomes a hobby

[rapid fractal]

This was back when they had less staff too i might add.

I do agree that the trio experience sucks.

[subtle heart]

Not going to lie. But can we get a warlock spell description update. Its hard to tell what is viable with what spell.

Similar to 2 hand weapon does not equal pole arm or bow.

Similar to ambush does not work with invisibility potion.

[rapid fractal]

Ngl... ye

I love the game, my gf loves it. I do wish they were a bit faster sometimes and i feel locked out of late game content but that's about it

[stuck ridge]

is anyone getting server error(2) when they try to log in?

[random echo]

june 7th steam event we have a chance

[rapid fractal]

We can do it!

[static rapids]

what steam event??

[shadow bough]

Hits the nail on the head, along with a lack of clear goal with game direction this is lead us to 6k players in the game. Hopefully SGF breathes some needed life into the game. My SEA servers are unplayable

[solar sage]

Bro im so mad the game is dead,not cuz I like the game because currently its absolute ass,but like,I hoped the game would peak and I could sell my demigod cape acount for like crazy money

Now I know it aint gonna be worth anything

[hollow stirrup]

idk im loving the game, even if it gets no players ill play alone the pve is great in itself the loot system is fun to me

trying to find god roll drops and stuff is exciting to me

[solar sage]

To each their own,if you enjoy it good for you!

[hollow stirrup]

the gambling/lootaholic in me CRAVES god roll drops

[solar sage]

If you like that style of gameplay,take a look at the Borderlands serie,really interesting loot goblin mechanics

[hollow stirrup]

i liked 2 alot but it got stale and 3... i dont like the anointed gear system i liked the weapon part system from 2 that they got rid of

[solar sage]

Ah I get ya,tbh,when I want to loot goblin I just play Rust

I hoard all of the shinies I grub off of players and live my best life

[hollow stirrup]

i liked rust as a solo... until i died to zergs constantly, i can handle 1v4s but 1v10... no ty

[solar sage]

Find friends,or play solo only servers,those are a thing

[hollow stirrup]

i dont like friends, not in a edgy way its just hard for me to make time when i work 2 jobs! especially since when im working they are awake when im home they are sleeping for work etc

[solar sage]

"You're my friend now"

"we're having soft tacoes later"

[hollow stirrup]

LOL

[rapid fractal]

Soft tacos? No longer friends.

[tight quarry]

how do I collect my season rewards from last season

[cosmic swan]

In the leaderboard tabs look on top of the screen you can choose season and game mode. Pick the one you were ranked and you can get your reward

[tight quarry]

theres no collect button It just shows the tiers I got through

[cosmic swan]

If i remember well click on the icon of the gold, potion, coin bag etc?

[tight quarry]

still doesn't work it shows the icons like it did during the season i'll dm u a pic

[cosmic swan]

#discord-help try doing a request here

[frosty yacht]

Is GBMM removed on the US West servers late night? Took a friend thats new to the game into his first HR game last night (in base kits) and was instantly rushed down and killed by tt1y and his crew in full Legendary equipment

[cosmic swan]

Yeah it is turned down if their is not enough people on the server

[frosty yacht]

Curious if it worked on the fly like that. Thanks for the response

[cosmic swan]

Yep i don't they said that in a patchnote "We have also removed GBMM for some of the lower populated regions" so it look like it don't work on the fly. But nothing sure

[cosmic swan]

You and your friend was under 300 gearscore?

[frosty yacht]

Complete base kits. Hes brand new and wanted to check out HR.

[static rapids]

lmao in complete darkness somehow this rogue hits me 2 straight shots without ever seeing me and then jumps on me and kills me without missing a single hit

superb gameplay

[frosty yacht]

Yeah, I was a little confused when I was checking out their gear in the Death Recap and saw they were completely BiS'd out. I know there has been some allegations made against this group of players before so I wanted to make sure there was nothing fishy going on before coming to my own conclusion. The whole engagement was rather odd though

[left smelt]

Is there any info in game, that GBMM is currently turned off in specific region or not?

[jaunty topaz]

It was announced in a recent patch

Certain low-population regions (e.g. Brazil) can potentially have gbmm disabled in order to prevent "dead" lobbies

[left smelt]

yes, correct, but do we actually know if it's off at a particular moment? or will out 100 GS team be destroyed by BIS guys?

[jaunty topaz]

I have no idea
That's a question for the devs

My advice is to either always bring your best gear to HR or just play normals if you have gear fear

[loud basin]

after turning vc on do i have to restart game

[upbeat rain]

Is it a good time to get dark and darker?

[cosmic swan]

There is a wipe (and usually a big patch) in early June so 2-3 week

[cosmic swan]

But i guess if you never played at all it can be good to put your hand on the game now so when the wipe will come have a food start thx to what you learn in this 2-3 week

[sudden meadow]

so are they going to come out with season rewards this wipe or next? because if wipe is in June isn't that a lot different previous wipe?

[cosmic swan]

"If everything goes according to plan, you will soon be able to receive a quest that rewards you with cosmetic items.
Additionally, adventurer rank rewards will be released soon." The message was send like 3-4 day ago

[cosmic swan]

But yeah I don't get why it took so much time to show what the reward for this season will be

[frozen umbra]

Nerf shortbow or entirely remove true damage
I shouldn't get 5 shot, as a barb, by a guy who can shoot 5 arrows in less then a second.

[quick fern]

cuz they didnt make them up yet , the point of rewards is to know at the start and motivate people to come play

[cosmic swan]

Yeah but I feel like the gold bag as green rank is ok if it's the same and imo it's ok if reward are not cosmetic but all loot like maybe not a chest but like 3 more gold bag at like demi god or just before or a few gold key stuff like that

[quick fern]

the rewards last season were so bad i wish i didnt grind demi god

[cosmic swan]

maybe it will speed up too much the people who are already good

[cosmic swan]

I don't know cosmetic are good but I don't feel like season reward should always be cosmetic. And you'll be happy to flex your demi god cape and blue campfire to all the new player when the game got the steam release xD

[quick fern]

the campfire is a nerf shouldnt use it and the skin is ugly and doesnt work with the gold cape you should be wearing

[frozen umbra]

Me after strictly only using meta

[cosmic swan]

Maybe i'm used to Rainbow 6 siege skin so those one seems cool for me xD

[quick fern]

just being real the only good reward imo was the skeleton skin

[frozen umbra]

If you're being real, you'd just say the skins are ugly. Not everyone runs strictly gold capes or cares about small nerfs.

You're being fake

[quick fern]

the coin bags are op good shouldnt start with a bunch of free bags

[cosmic swan]

Well you can't make the reward be 20 gold and a bunch of lockpick. What do you think it should be?

[vapid arch]

a shitload of purple meds

[quick fern]

could at least make the rewards and quests account wide

people who are sweaty with 2 accounts getting 20 bags and casual andy getting 1 or 2 is kinda suss to me

[cosmic swan]

What does sweaty mean in that sentence? Sry english is not my native language

Like no life spend all their time on the game?

[quick fern]

pretty much

[cosmic swan]

Ok ok thx

[quick fern]

even tho you both paid the same money and finished the same rank they get more rewards for farming more characters

and the coinbags mean you dont have to buy stash tabs and you get a massive lead next seasons

[cosmic swan]

Yeah I get it, but don't the game need those people to stay too? You have to made the reward appealing I think and those kind of reward are

[quick fern]

well if you play 1 character to demigod in 100 hours and i play 10 characters to pathfinder in 100 hours how would you do it

[devout trellis]

how many empty lobbies do you guys get into while queing as a trio?

[cosmic swan]

Depend of the map but empty like really empty, not that much maybe like 1 out of 7-8. Actually I felt like lobby was a bit more full than lately recently

[outer ridge]

I consistently get 1 or 2 other teams and a few solos at most in 299 trios , prob empty 30% of the time but IMO 1/2 teams is also empty so 🤷🏼‍♂️

[devout trellis]

because when ive been queing as a trio mostly on crypts half of the games are completely empty idk if its because one of us is low level atm but completelty empty

[quick fern]

i can only find some people in solo mode atm

[cosmic swan]

What server region?

[devout trellis]

eu frankfurt

not at this time but at around 16.00 or so in my timezone

[cosmic swan]

I stopped spamming it because whit what sdf said on the general channel a few day ago I think they're working on a way to fix the empty lobby issues buuuuuut : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/551119/remove-the-multi-waiting-lobbies-system

[devout trellis]

tyty atleast i understand what going on now 🙂

[cosmic swan]

np

[woeful panther]

Another 8 months of data collection and maybe we can get another drawing contest let’s pray!

[alpine holly]

is there a bug thats letting 299+ people into lower lobbies? playing on us west and have had 2 lobbies with someone 299+ in what is supposed to be a lower lobby. is this the games fault or is it something we should be reporting as an exploit? this is supposed to be one of the most populated servers so i dont see why there would be mixed lobbies.

[cosmic swan]

"We have also removed GBMM for some of the lower populated regions" in hotfix 46

[alpine holly]

again this is the us west server which is highly populated

[cosmic swan]

It's strange that they removed it if you say that there is player on that server

Someone was pointing out that it may be like dynamic and it can activate and desactivate when the population is low at certain hour

[alpine holly]

thats why i said it was one of the most populated servers in my post and im asking if this is an exploit or a game glitch

[delicate hemlock]

hey guys is there a place to make suggestions? I think if there was an attack and defend game mode, i would play this game constantly

[cosmic swan]

No, I don't think so

[delicate hemlock]

well lets get it haqpening

[cosmic swan]

No that was for the other person there is #suggestion-discussion

[delicate hemlock]

oh! thanks!

i dont know how i didnt see that

[cosmic swan]

And https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

All channel don't show up, go look on top of the channel list you have a "Channel and role" tab something like it allow you to see all channel and show/hide them

[jaunty topaz]

Game is dying lol even the more "populated" regions are starting to see a breakdown of gbmm

[cosmic swan]

While the problem is not GBMM but this : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/551119/remove-the-multi-waiting-lobbies-system

But it seems that IM is working on a new matchmaking system that'll (hopefully) fix the empty lobby issues and should come out with next wipe early June

(But still vote for that we never know)

[formal moon]

lol, gbmm has never worked

[cosmic swan]

?

[alpine holly]

All the lobbies that i get into are full so i wouldn't see why GBMM would be turned off. its just weird im pickpocketing for fun naked as a rogue in neophyte3 and im getting put into 299+ lobbies. If there is no rank system or GBMM at this point have we just come full circle again. just doesn't make sense lol

[jaunty topaz]

I don't think the lobby size itself matters it's just the total number of players that influence wether gbmm becomes active

[cosmic swan]

Does someone have in mind what was the maximum number of team for each solo/duo/trio?

[urban axle]

why do slayer fighters get sprint?

base kit slayer solos every squishy in the game

[torpid lantern]

Any cisco Masters wanna help your boy out with a router configuration? DM ME PLEASE 😄 IM DYING

[raw briar]

whats the gear score lobbie ratios? under 299 only? or is there more

[olive lotus]

There’s lobbies for 299 and under, and lobbies for 300 and above. Low population in your selected region will remove any gear based matchmaking though

[orchid harness]

They killed the game already, everyone I've talked to won't buy it because of all the nexon drama and hearing about the constant imbalances in classes.

[wild jay]

Dude ive been gone for a while holy crappppppppp player count is so low

Thats so sad

[cosmic swan]

People have killed the game crying and telling "The game dead lol" after every patch and every change IM tried. They criticize every thing like litterally EVERYTHING, solo/duo, gbmm, normal/hr, quest etc in both way most of the time some want more other less. And even when new player want to try the game and ask question or just people try to make constructiv post, they all here like "Don't buy the game, it's dead, IM trash etc" (how many time did i saw that wtf) or "Why are you sucking IM lol xd lol, how many did they pay you/there not your father". People here are one of the most toxic community not especially in game but around it and about IM, while in fact IM is a quite small team working like verrrrrrry hard and fast on the game. "They", IM didn't kill that game, it's community did. Since a few day ago I try to answer as many question and help as many people on the discord, new player or not and it's insane the amout of person who are greatfull and happy when you give them a good answer, a link to the discord, debat a bit with them. That, imo, is why this discord should be used for

(They're way too many word xD)

And I'm quite sure a lot of people do think like me. So maybe it's our time to speak about how we love this game, make suggestions etc. I don't want to see it "dying" for real thx to a few troll

[raven gulch]

when is the wipe

[slow holly]

Still waiting on Wizard to not just be perma slow with ice, perma kite with invis/haste, and perma boop away with Fireball.

[cosmic swan]

Early June in like 2-3 week

[raven gulch]

okay thanks !

[orchid harness]

The game is bad because of reddit not people on discord point your blame in the right direction, I've never seen a change implemented from a discord complaint.

[sinful gull]

I think there is nothing wrong with what he said, you are writing this lengthy angry article and complain about how toxic the community is, when he really just criticised the game very mildly in the "game discussion" channel. Not hating, just saying its all fair in here... If you dont like the word "killed" I can see how that is exaggerated but you should get what he means with the current playernumbers.

[orchid harness]

I have a great idea let's nerf rogue when the majority of players play that character

[sinful gull]

You lost me with that one tho

[orchid harness]

Lol

[cosmic swan]

I'm on discord only, and people here are so fucking toxic, maybe it's the same on reddit (probably the same dude tho) but people here too are horrible don't blame it only on reddit

[orchid harness]

You included based on the paragraphs.

[fading hound]

Game needs a teabag emote. If you really want to be diabolical, make it Redstone shard only. I'd pay for this

[sinful gull]

the real problems right here....

[fading hound]

Low hanging fruit

[orchid harness]

People on here complain but I've come to realize that the game development team do not care what discord thinks and mostly moderators weed out any super toxic people. Reddit seems to have the most influence over changes from what I've experienced.

I have an idea let's let barbarian duo have 100%pdr for two weeks

[sinful gull]

I agree sdf is a reddit goblin for sure. The least important ones are the upvotes on their website lol.

[orchid harness]

I have an idea let's make a potion require knowledge when it's a potion that anyone can drink.

[cosmic swan]

Maybe I under estimate reddit, I feel like it's less used in EU than other region

[orchid harness]

I have an idea let's make hide have a outline but invis potion be truly invis. That one killed pickpocket which people who were not good at pvp could still have fun and was the DBD aspect of the game.

[sinful gull]

yeah, im from eu & allmost never use it.

[orchid harness]

When you cater to the minority the majorities will leave and that's what's happening imo.

[sinful gull]

I played rogue at that time for example, but only cause everything else was unplayable. iirc i was ranger/wiz main and mostly solo gc caves.. The reality is rogue has to be weak cause it is the number1 ragequit reasons. Same with rangers and wizards they need to be weak or its absurdly griefy.

Rogue is the strongest class right now btw. Alot of people also dont understand that.. except lock maybe still

my best kd by far before multiclass

[orchid harness]

Rogue is not the strongest class , a small percentage of players who are higher skill level are winning but it's because they are good players.

[sinful gull]

Rupture crossbow and gg with 1 hit, if i miss im gone and you cant chase. If i hit you are dead that is just busted. too much pen, can easily stack 140hp+

[orchid harness]

Easy to stop just don't chase

[sinful gull]

it is terrible in normals i agree but me as a rogue vet im fine and finding a dagger turn you into a god instantly

[sinful gull]

exactly, then i come back for more grief until i get my rupture cb shot in for entry and i will repeat this even if i miss 20 times im allways faster opening doors and moving.

[orchid harness]

It's a skill thing if the other players were as good you would get routed and would be ran into a corner.

Fighter is easier and with a good team healer and ranged it's hard to stop

[sinful gull]

I would argue you can leapfrog that skill issue. If you are slower at both opening doors and walking... I will allways decide when any of us can commit. I can miss 15 shots get to safety and heal, a ranger misses 2 arrows and its gg for him, a wiz never had a chance.

[orchid harness]

Wiz, barb, warlock can break doors, fighter has sprint and barb has its shouts.

[sinful gull]

Im not saying all other classes are balanced but rogue has to be shit as long as it has this much burst dmg potential and speed over all other classes.

as soon as barbs get too tanky, fast they are cancer too.

[orchid harness]

Rogue is good but Imo it's not the strongest class too easy to kill and ranger, bard, wiz can reveal easily.

[sinful gull]

yeah it is debatable... just is my take, I play alot of rogue and im a bit of a rat so it works like a charm. But alot of people that think its shit just commit too early, when in reality , if you never commit and allways run/heal you see the grief potential.

im also only a solo player that is a big factor id assume they are way worse in trios

[serene mesa]

Why has the player count dropped off so fast?

[sinful gull]

1. people got mad about mulitclass 2.people got mad about the multiclass grind 3.people got mad about removing multiclass 4. We need to wipe every 2 month max or even monthly, this shit too long economy is fked since early wipe.

[proven prawn]

what is actually the reason that the spectator mode in hr is only limited?

[limber jolt]

In my opinion, the entire equipment attribute system should be reviewed. Something needs to be removed and the time to kill extended.

[tawny coral]

why does the Golend Entry quest say: interact with golden door and means unlock the golden door??? I was playing duo, friend opened the door and I interacted with it afterwards.. He got the quest and I didn't .. change the description as it's deceiving ...

[brisk lava]

Easily stack 140 hp? In 1 shot? Lol no

[sinful gull]

you can do 160+hp 140 is just your standard kit in hr lol. and rupture +cb will easily do 40-50 dmg doesnt even need much gear... whats your point?

[brisk lava]

You're talking about 140 damage in 1 hit from hcb? Or 140 health pool

[sinful gull]

health

[brisk lava]

Oh ok

Thought you meant damage which I was calling out bs

[sinful gull]

yeah np

[brisk lava]

140 hp still requires mad gear and if you're just stacking vigor and hp you're losing something else

[sinful gull]

I never do it cause i dont need it. I just use handcrossbow until they are 1shot. But if you buy all vig parts green/blue ull be at 120 with no rolls allmost. hence why i said easily.. if you build hp its ez

[brisk lava]

Yeah and you'll either be slow af or have shit dmg..still a tradeoff

[sinful gull]

The door opening speed is the most broken stat in that equasion cause rogues arent escapable.

even if they build low ms

[proven prawn]

too bad you have to build the game around cheater

[mossy ridge]

so is anyone else having problems with the loot the pile quest in GC? it hasnt counted for me or my friend and weve both looted the hoard dozens of times, is it referring to the mystical gem hoard?

[wind venture]

Demigod, its over... its done...

[winter tinsel]

To stop cheaters from playing in the same lobby making callouts for their friends

[warm warren]

Removing the obviously better equipment rolls of +all and +damage / +true damage will increase the TTK and make the GBMM much more relevant. A blue item with + buff & debuff duration will raise your GS higher than a green with +true damage on it. Any random modifier that suddenly becomes 'required' to be competitive in a ranked system needs to go. (edited for grammar)

[cosmic swan]

I agree with that, for me gear giving to much stat / to much damage stat are one of the main issues on the game right now. They did try to change that a long time ago but they reverted it slowly hotfix after hotfix to come back at this

[meager quest]

Can you not claim last seasons rewards anymore? I have like 5 chars I haven't played yet and I can't figure out how to get the rewards

I got them all to at least the green rank, but can't seem to get the rewards now

[cosmic swan]

You'r not the first one I saw saying someting like that, it might be a bug of some kind. Try opening a ticket here #report-a-bug or #discord-help

[meager quest]

Thanks I'll try that

[shy onyx]

bring multiclass back

[high sapphire]

PLEASE

[swift ether]

what does a okay viola go for

[limber badge]

At least 3 silver

[manic bloom]

when was the last wipe?

[undone belfry]

anyone know drop rate of troll pelt?

and what the flying fuck, now it seems his simple straight hammer smash is doing damage when you are to the side?

[fluid bone]

anyone have a guide for merchants quests? I'm mostly just intersted in which one tiers up my wep from grey to whites. thanks in advance

[glossy barn]

No, it’s because Devs wasted 10 months of development time making “solo player Hello Kitty PVE dungeon lite” instead of focusing on their game “Dark and Darker”

Shame the 3000 solo players “keeping the game alive” can’t see they’ve killed the game 😂

[opal schooner]

Ive always wondered why DaD doesnt mirror DnD with leveling up. In DnD, every 4 levels your character gets extra points into the stats of their choosing.

I could see that being fun in DaD. Your fighter reaches level 5. You get to add a point into Strength and Agility (or whatever you want).

What do yall think?

[white cape]

sounds disastrous

[opal schooner]

no matter what channel you go theeres a troll eh?

[sharp berry]

Someone who just disagrees with you isn’t a troll lol

[white cape]

The experience and skill gap between hardcore players and everyone else is already massive. Adding a numerical value gap on top of that is extremely unhealthy for the game, and you're a fool if you don't see that

The level 100 rogue has played a lot more rogue than the level 20 rogue. Adding 20 stat points' difference obliterates what little room for contest there was

[vapid oyster]

y u troll

[white cape]

[surreal fiber]

anyone have issue with the treasure hoard interaction quest in goblin cave when they're in a party?

[raven nymph]

what do you mean exactly

[serene mesa]

exactly lol. this game is like chess if the grandmasters got 5 extra queens and the new players just had normal pieces

[sacred osprey]

Fix Stiletto Dagger

[marble fjord]

What is the objective worst class out rn?

[brazen mason]

Maybe cleric

[cosmic swan]

15% drop rate

[light summit]

Can you unfuck the lobby system? Thanks - Empty lobbys is awful

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/551119/remove-the-multi-waiting-lobbies-system
But it seems that IM is working on a new matchmaking system that'll (hopefully) fix the empty lobby issues and should come out with next wipe early June

[brisk mason]

tf are you smoking

[lunar summit]

all classes are in ok spots atm but may not perform great at all gear levels/ team sizes. Clerics are probably the weakest for solo play and rogues are probably the weakest for team play

[elfin fern]

i don't understand why people are so aggressive at game start of norms

like, are you that desperate for 100g worth of heals that you need to chase me through 3 modules and waste time that could have been used on someone who actually wants to fight, or on looting or questing

[vapid arch]

some people just want to pvp

or maybe they have a quest to kill your class

[brazen mason]

That good good; I just see more representation from almost every other class these days

[plush ember]

Hey guys anyone have the game running on linux?

[cosmic swan]

"Is the game available on other platforms (Linux, Mac)?

Not officially. We'll investigate how much extra support is required once things calm down."

That's from the faq, almost a year ago. Don't know if it's up to date

[plush ember]

no yeah i know im asking players see if they had any luck

[cosmic swan]

Oh ok

[plush ember]

im starting to experiment with it now and I wanted to see if anyone got it running already to save some time

[brisk mason]

it depends on mode. cleric is very good in trios and duos. just not in solos

[late drift]

do that only ranger equipe bows (crossbow) otherwise nobody is playing this game anymore only the nohands play because they cant play they own class and only use bows to win

[light summit]

How do they create a cure that's worse than the diseaser? Jesus christ, do a hotfix and revert it, It's really awful man. I''d rather have teamers then dead fuckingf lobbys>

And there's a leaver penalty? DOn't want to play in a dead lobby? Get stuffed.

[late drift]

or get stoned

[quick fern]

another stat would just become the best stat

[cosmic swan]

Maybe but at least the ttk would be longer and fight would be way different, more strategic etc

[cosmic swan]

Because actually we just have shit ton of damage and or a lot of move speed to avoid getting hit

[quick fern]

nah mc sucked

[quick fern]

sounds like every game tbh

[cosmic swan]

Yep and thats why removing all the add/true damage stat would be cool

[north stratus]

RIP game... i want refund !!!!

[quick fern]

no if someone is so fast you cant touch them you just cant kill them in any game

[cosmic swan]

Would you mind explain why?

[north stratus]

because i see RIP now

[cosmic swan]

Yes but if they don't have enough damage to kill a fighter with lot of pdr or barbarian with some hp, people are going to start thinking about other way to play and kill people

[plush ember]

Hey guys I got it to work on linux just use Lutris and its so easy

[cosmic swan]

I still don't get it sry

[north stratus]

cheats is easy now

[quick fern]

no if i can infinitely kite you i infinitely kite you in any game im just gonna buy a different dmg stat

[cosmic swan]

Nice gj ^^

[north stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnBKVuW9qFc&ab_channel=NexusGG

[cosmic swan]

Yes but in this game they're door and thing that you can close to heal up. And without big damage stats, people with defence might be able to heal faster than they take damage from someone who just kite

[plush ember]

do we have a chat to look for party or can or just post here?

[north stratus]

gg this game and bb..

[quick fern]

maybe you should try getting some skill and movespeed instead of wanting to be an unkillable raid boss

[cosmic swan]

Isn't that the same in any game? Like I feel like cheating is a huge deal in any game nowaday

[cosmic swan]

Yeah ok, I won't change your mind, but still i feel like longer ttk would be better. Maybe won't solve the infinite kite problem tho

[left smelt]

previous season I got wanderer rank with my fighter and I'm on him now and... I cannot claim the reward
wtf?

[cosmic swan]

ou need to go in the leaderboard tab and select the last season and size group you played. Then click on the icon of the reward you have unlocked
It might not work or look like they're already claimed but you don't have them (Some people got this issue recently). If so try opening a ticket here

[left smelt]

in the beginning of the season I did claim it on rogue

[cosmic swan]

#report-a-bug or #discord-help

[left smelt]

I did claim it on rogue in the beginning of the season, but now on fighter I cannot... I'll open a ticket, thank you 🙂

[cosmic swan]

np

[quick fern]

no we got rid of mc cuz long ttk

[cosmic swan]

How the "Everyone use Sprint and just stomp the fuck out of you Meta" had cause longer TTK?

[quick fern]

they stomped you cuz they had a better tank build than you yes

[cosmic swan]

Ok thx

[opal notch]

what quest need to be compleated to craft grimsmile rings?

[kind scarab]

Is there a wipe coming soon?

[cosmic swan]

Early June, so 2-3 week

[calm torrent]

now that they removed this dumb class thingy i can come baack 😄

[light summit]

Another empty lobby - GGs ironmace

[scenic hornet]

Thats the issue imo the game is all about ms its dumb af

[cosmic swan]

Wait for the next wipe, they're coming up with a new matchmaking system. Hope it will fix the empty lobby issue (I have my theorie on how it will work based on what they said and I think it will solve the issues)

[deft vector]

would anyone like to laugh with me at the people saying cut throat is OP and needs to be nerfed?

[cosmic swan]

Dude it can cancel the perfect block skill of fighter, it's op as fuck (no)

[brazen mason]

All I play is trios and I come across much less than most other classes. Buffball isn’t nearly as meta as it used to be. I just gave my answer to the question tbh, everyone’s will likely be different.

[brisk mason]

Idk buff ball is still easily best comp and is super op rn.

[vapid arch]

the one that requires you to kill berserkers and ghost king

[restive frost]

i love when my game closes and i dont get the option to rejoin

[terse stratus]

RIP game chat is dead again

game is back to hardcore pvp no strategy or cooperation playerbase is dead af

[fresh bridge]

dead game 99 percent of lobbies have 1-3 other players this game fucking sucks now

[sterile widget]

Are there any plans to increase the timer between maps? Just wondering.

[cosmic swan]

@fresh bridge The lobby are empty because of that system : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/551119/remove-the-multi-waiting-lobbies-system. But a few day ago SDF said that a new matchmaking system will come up with the next wipe and with what they said about it I have a theory on how i'll work I think it will solve the empty lobby issues

[fresh bridge]

god bless you for informing me thankful for the few players that are left

[blazing latch]

@oak turtle I'm waiting for the game to die so that a better game can come along. These devs collected their paycheck and are checked out. See you on the next ride.

[cosmic swan]

@fresh bridge np guys, wipe is announced to be in early June so 2-3 week to wait if they respect their deadline (I hope so, I think it's the reason we didn't get a patch this week they might be focusing on the next patch coming with the wipe)

[limber verge]

Lmao

[plush ember]

anyone looking for a 2nd or a third?
I warn you Im very new and bad

[fleet aurora]

what server you on?

[plush ember]

us west

[fleet aurora]

duo party 8

[shadow sierra]

rogues and warlocks make me sad 😦

[grizzled gyro]

GREAT GAME DEVS NO PORTALS IN FINAL ZONE

JUST LOST 10k WORTH OF GEAR!!!

[vapid arch]

skill issue

[high sapphire]

wtf is norms rn lol. just saw a barb with white bis and an inv of francescas and pots

[hollow stirrup]

its just pvp central

[high sapphire]

barbs are just nerds gotcha

[clear wing]

dear sdf, for christmas i want a hussar sabre, horse bow, light (not round or buckler) shield, tower shield, magyar/cuman/lamellar armour aaaand i want a new move set for the quarterstaff aaaand i want the ability to feint as a perk/skill and make it so that killing cyclops insta spawns 10000 gold in ur inventory :3

[dire cedar]

Wait til this sad sap realizes the recurve bow is a horse bow

[mellow jasper]

barbs have been awful in norms. They're just too strong with bis white and no t-shirt. Kite for days and pelt with axes

powerful* barbs have been powerful

door meta is too much with potion chugger. fastest reset other than cleric or warlock

[dawn ridge]

Can someone enlighten me on how the am I supposed to play HR now? It seems that in every single lobby that I play in US East has at least 1 juiced player that has stacked either true damage or additional. The same guy just deletes the whole lobby with no problem. I'm so tired on losing looted gear to a sweatlord that apparently has 2k or more to dump into decorations and additional weapon damage. This whole situation makes me think that I need to go super geared by giving priority to additional or true, but hey I just don't have the gold because I keep dying to those beasts 🙂 Sometimes I just think that I shoudn't queue into HR. Anyone care to share any tips? cause no matter what I try, the ranger with stacked additional or true just deletes me while I try to disengage. I have 50% PDR as plate fighter every single match just to be 3 shot by any true dmg stacker...

[quick fern]

play slayer in solos , farm normals for your own +dmg

[hollow stirrup]

potion chugger?

[mellow jasper]

increases the healing of potions by 20% and they take half as long to heal. So grey pots heal 18hp in 10 secs instead of 15hp in 20 secs

[hollow stirrup]

oh thats crazyy

i never knew abt that i have only played fighter

[mellow jasper]

it goes crazy tbh. makes prot pots way better too.

[past light]

Is projectile damage resistance additive with your pdr/mdr?

[elfin fern]

you basically have to swarm sit and hope they don't have esp

if you arent a bard, lock, or cleric i dont know what to tell you other than load up on campfires

[elfin fern]

lizard barbs are right up there with rangers for the most joyless sacks of sweat that play this game to feel good about something in their miserable lives

[past light]

I am pretty new but my opinions on class balance so far is Barbarian is OP in normals and Wizard is pretty awful.
In high roller Warlock and Wizard seem OP but I respect the Wizard still seems very hard to play.

[alpine warren]

Can barb not be a lizard?

[gusty narwhal]

anyone want to run some dead and deader

[cosmic swan]

More than tip on how to countrr that mera i'll give you suggestions on how to change it : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554229/additional-and-true-damage-should-be-deleted-from-the-game . Imo gears give too much stat, reducing the amout or like they did before limit what stat an item can give etc would reduce the TTK and make a real change on how the fight work and the strat to use

[rich sorrel]

any one having trouble getting there rewards from season 1 i dont have a option to collect them

[cosmic swan]

Yep many people seems to have this issues. Try opening a ticket here #report-a-bug or #discord-help

[rocky plover]

what do you need to unlock the door underneath the cave troll boss room?

[pure jolt]

Game needs steam release + marketing + permanent content or it's joever

[cosmic swan]

If you'r talking about the door in the treasure room after killing the troll, you need to also kill the Cyclops to open it, it's a room with loot too in bewteen Cyclops and troll room that can only be acces when both are dead

[left smelt]

is raft on ice cavern one time use?

we have been for the last minute or two and it didn't came

[cosmic swan]

Nop, there is like 4 of them who drop all along the game

[left smelt]

are it's timers random?

[static rapids]

Last boat will be around 3 minutes

[wind venture]

Okay this entire GBMM needs a 3th lobby that is for the BIS of the BIS lobby. Me and my team were pretty geared. But then a team spawned in with so much BIS, unique, named weapons. A wizard with over 170 HP and almost 50 knowledge, they should be in a different lobby. It's not even fun to try and fight them cause you'll just get ruined :/

[static rapids]

And there’s 0 chance of avoiding them because sweats like that do nothing but sprint through the map to kill everyone lmfao

[wind venture]

@static rapidsThere is nothing you can do, I even ambush them as a barb. The wizard has almost the same HP as me. Named weapons, they steam roll my group with pretty good gear. It's beyond stupid how the system works now.

[cosmic swan]

Yep that's either add an another GBMM tier or reduce the damage you can get through gear, so at least you won't take 2 zap and die will having 160 hp

[wind venture]

299 lobby's are mim maxing but everyone is the game geared.
300? Good luck vs named items users that walk around with 100k kit...

[scenic hornet]

Just play in 299 ?

[muted verge]

wSo Ironmace made it on summer game fest partners. Starts june 7th. What are the odds this is indication of a steam release?

[cosmic swan]

I really don't think so, imo the steam release will be the 1.0 of the game and IM still want to implement and try new feature that might change the core structure of the game (Like MC was). And I believe that it's harder to do that after the game hit the 1.0, people have paid for something and don't want it to change too much. That not the case for a early access

[muted verge]

The only reason I think it could be steam or epic release. They recently said early wipe which lines up with this event. Also GBMM needs more players or it's doing more harm than good.

[cosmic swan]

The lobby are empty because of that system not GBMM : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/551119/remove-the-multi-waiting-lobbies-system. But a few day ago SDF said that a new matchmaking system will come up with the next wipe and with what they said about it I have a theory on how i'll work I think it will solve the empty lobby issues. So even without a Steam or EG release we should have lobby more full after the wipe (also because people might come back, and if IM release a good patch some of them would probably stay)

[wind venture]

@scenic hornetbeen doing that the entire season, wanted to use some good gear.

[muted verge]

They need to do something for sure. I whent on strike and won't be back until my ruins map is back.

[cosmic swan]

Ruins 😭

[muted verge]

Best map idc what anyone says. I could always move around to avoid bad pushes. No stupid traps around every single corner. Mob density feels better. Longer sight lines so less of the lame door way fights. RIP RUINS you made this game work for me.

[winter grove]

I think we should get angry over something now!

[cosmic swan]

Stop it xD We are finally getting somewhere

[winter grove]

I just joined in and I feel like we should be mad MAD MAD about something! I dunno why

[cosmic swan]

Be mad about people who spend their day saying "the game is dead lol", do like me. I'm always angry

[glossy barn]

On it!

I’m angry solo players spent more time crying in this discord than they did learning how to play the actual game, to the point it broke the already fragile state of the devs dealing with Nexons nonsense, and now 10 months later due to split development time and catering to solo players nonsense, the game has the least amount of players it ever has while solo players unironically complain about lack of content that they themselves caused

[winter grove]

ok, I'll get mad now about that!

[cosmic swan]

Dude xD Let solo player alone

[winter grove]

I am a mad solo player now!

[muted verge]

What do you guys think about normals? Personally I would like to see more stats involved. Just seems like some classes ( cough barb) have an advantage over others due to their talents giving them so many stats. Now I'm not saying go wild with stats in normals. I like the simplicity but I think it needs something.

[winter grove]

What do I think about normals? WHAT DO I THINK ABOUT NORMALS?? I am MAD about normals!!!!

[glossy barn]

Normals feel like a dungeon crawler Battle royal game, which isn’t a bad thing.

PVP costs less and the squire boy enables preferred gear even at lower power and armor ratios

[winter grove]

I only play normals 😄 too noob to acquire any meaningful gear

but the squire thing is great!

[muted verge]

Right now I know this is extreme and will never happen but I would love if normals change for like a self found game mode. Basically all gear found in normals gets a stamp kinda like handled it would be Normal stamped. Meaning that gear can be brought it no matter the rarity. That beings said gear without that normal stamp is not allowed. Downside of this is normals is supposed to be where they new players start and it would be filled with good players who just never lose their gear sets.

[wooden locust]

Cheezits or gold fish

[pulsar perch]

I did a post about this recently. Normals needs to do something like this or go away

[undone belfry]

I only play normals, because I hate giving cheaters my gear in HR. Normals is more skill based PvP imo

[muted verge]

Well I can't agure with that. Truth be told I mostly play normals for the same reason. However it gets old getting all the loot that you can't ever use.

[undone belfry]

True, every 10 games or so my friend and I go and donate a set. All I have to do is kill ghost king and warlord then I'm done with quests, oh and troll pelt. After that I'm probably done bc there's nothing else.

[muted verge]

Yep I think the quests take to long to unlock squire gear that's worth anything. You know what maybe they should increase the drop rate of whites since it's the only gear we can use in there. I would much rather have that then finding greens and blues I just vendor.

[undone belfry]

Yeah bis whites. But I wouldn't increase too much. Idk I kinda like moving as fast as possible to high loot areas and rolling the dice to get good gear to just use that round. Feels like getting the rocket launcher in a shooter when you get a bis blue weapon lol

[muted verge]

True but I think it's odd whites are more rare than blues/greens. I maybe have found 3 white spell books just seems kinda weird.

[undone belfry]

they are usually worth money too lol

[queen pollen]

what does 299 mean i havnt played since the game first game out

[cosmic swan]

In HR there is a Gearscore system for the matchmaking, you gear/heal/utility give you point (the more rare the more point), and if you are under 299 you are in a lobby with people between 0 and 299, in theory no big stuff. And if you are above 299 you can face people with all kind of stuff from epic to unique/ named item

[empty zealot]

Seems like a strange take. You don't think it's warlocks thst got the advantage?? 😅

[cosmic swan]

I got a good talk yesterday with Mwitch18 in the #suggestion-discussion channel about the warlock. And it's not that simple Warlock is clearly one of the best class but he's not invincible

[empty zealot]

Just funny he singles out barb. Not like they get "extra stats" anyway? They have high hp, thats their advantage.

[cosmic swan]

They kinda do have extra stat, in the way they're the only class to have only 5 knowledge on the base stat and that mean more stat on strengh and vigor. And yeah knowledge is useless on barb, so it is on rogue ranger and fighter so why do they have 10, 12 and 15

So maybe Knowledge should be more useful, like for the Invis potion. Your a barb? You have only 5 Knowledge? Ok, so not smart at all, you can't use lockpick, or you can't set up a camp fire

[empty zealot]

yea, they also only have 1 relatively weak and expensive ranged weapon...

[cosmic swan]

Yeah maybe but imo that should be solved by removing ranged weapon from other class instead than giving the barb some ranged weapon. And they do have the mighty Drum

[empty zealot]

yea, i'm not saying they need a better ranged weapon, just that they aren't getting "extra free stats" or something, class balance is more than just raw stats... there's weapons, armor, perks/skills/spells etc. to consider

[cosmic swan]

Don't want to to be a contrarian or anything, but they do also have some of the best skill and perk, everyone was half a barbare when multiclassing was up

[empty zealot]

I never said they were a bad class, but if any class has an advantage and gets stuff "for free" I would say it's the warlock xD

[cosmic swan]

I can agree with you that he don't have the best weapon, but he's still realllllly strong

[cosmic swan]

Yeah ok, but not as much as the barbare, base kit barbare is one of the strongest class

[white cape]

going from longbow ranger to survival bow ranger was kind of jarring. The disparity of build viability is crazy (survival bow ranger sweeps)

[empty zealot]

barbarian is super inflexible anyway, it's a one trick pony and if ppl see the trick coming, only way to outplay is simply just being very skilled... while warlocks can phantomize and curse of pain all day, like wtf. I don't even have to bring potions when I play warlock and you can mass kill AI without breaking a sweat

[subtle heart]

This game low key dying atm

[cosmic swan]

Why? it's pointless to just say that

[empty zealot]

yea, it's actually kind of OP being able to clear an module in 1 min, without spending any consumeables

[subtle heart]

You tell me

[empty zealot]

HAHAHAHA you got a real point?

[cosmic swan]

"No u"

[ebon palm]

Deserved after these inbred devs decisions over the last several months

[empty zealot]

you see that wheel on your mouse, use it to scroll up and read what I wrote again

[subtle heart]

Uno reverse

[cosmic swan]

Damn you got me

[subtle heart]

Hehehehe. The game feels content thin and the devs aren’t transparent enough imp

Some of the YouTuber are feeling burnt as well. Not much to do rn

[empty zealot]

not even sure what your point is, is there any other class that can just run through the dungeon and clear everything with AoE and hp drain? like what class can bring 3 healpots and just clear half the goblin caves without even stopping for a moment lol

[subtle heart]

On god remove warlock. All my homies hate warlock

[empty zealot]

no man, it lets me feel like I actually have skills when I play warlock 😅

yea, spending doulbe the time and actually having to stop and use bandages or campfires, meditate etc.

I don't care about the campy flamebait, i'm no pvp god, but I don't spend my time denying reality

I only struggle with the warlocks

[subtle heart]

Fair enough haha. In that case those, ranger arrows need a buff. Make em hit scan 😄

[empty zealot]

I learn by trial and error, through blood, sweat and tears... unless I play warlock, then I just jump and around and kill everything

[empty zealot]

only fair 🫡

[rare venture]

Its pretty hilarious. A warlock can trivialize bosses, clear entire rooms full of mini bosses just running around and resetting to full hp no problem if a pvp encounter starts.

[wheat fractal]

I think warlocks fine, it's just hydra that's a broken buggy mess

[flat mountain]

starting to think maybe nexon was onto something with the lawsuit

[undone schooner]

is mystic gem room bugged?

[loud basin]

is there any way to get nightmare skele rn, if not how do i get more trimph levels so i can get orc

[muted verge]

I would always rather fight a warlock rather than a barb in normals. It's easy for the barb to stack hp in normals. The same can't be said about magic damage for locks.

[dry nebula]

complaining about warlock magic damage in normals is insane

[muted verge]

Where in there does it sound like a complaint? I'm not advocating for more magic damage for locks. All I want is for barbs to have less HP in normals. Then maybe just maybe wizs could outplay them.

[dry nebula]

talking about the other guy

[ebon palm]

I hate Nexon even more, they ruined one of my favorite FPS games called Combat Arms with their greedy antics.

[marsh pike]

Anyone explain spawn mechanics, if you spawn with only 1 other team in lobby is it always directly opposite? Is that only for inferno?

[static rapids]

Fairly certain that’s only inferno but I could be wrong as fuck

[neat tundra]

Dude 4k players and i have only emtpy lobbies

[scenic hornet]

Lol

[warped beacon]

cinder w 65 damage and 1 additaonal weapon 3.6 physical damage bonus and 5 percent armor pen can someone price check me pls

[mild lake]

Does it show if my gold got destroyed in the market place? because I traveled and I am not sure if any of my unclaimed gold got destroyed

[wide herald]

It'll say destroyed

[mild lake]

ok thanks

[elfin fern]

@warm laurel if you're backstrobebaxter thanks for being chill ❤️

[rocky plover]

whats usually more expensive, an epic spellbook or lyre?

[cosmic swan]

I guess spellbook, more class can use it and i guess lyre is not an instrument that really usefull in epic. If you are talking to sell in the markerplace

[rocky plover]

ty

[steel bluff]

How do i Claim my HighRoller Rewards from season 1?

[cosmic swan]

You have to go in the leaderboard tab and select the good season and game mode (solo duo trio) and click on the icon of each reward. They may appear already claimed, many people had this issue. If so try opening a ticket here #report-a-bug or here #discord-help

[steel bluff]

thanks

[fallen mantle]

.

[quaint atlas]

how to impregnate goblin???

[undone schooner]

not sure if its broken but I've used the mystic gem 3 times now and no floor loot has dropped

[vapid arch]

floor spawns are now in the marvelous chests in key rooms because people kept looking in to see if there was an artifact on the floor or not

[warped raft]

dear IM, please fix the getting stuck on weapon bug that has been around since launch of EA. thanks

[gritty flume]

how is creep still in the game lol; why am I STILL dying to silent barbarians man. Game isn't playable if every corner has a melee hiding in the dark skulking shadow to shadow with the ability to one shot you

[warped raft]

only rogues should have it, enhanced by a perk but carebears took care of that 😉

[supple wind]

When druid???? 🙂

[cosmic swan]

We did have new about it a few day ago (look at sdf message on the general chat). He said that they solved the issues that slowed down the release of the druid so maybe next wipe (Early June in 2-3 weeks if as announced)

[west garden]

I thought druid was being scrapped

[cosmic swan]

"Druids are still having trouble making animal animations feel good in first person. This is why this class was so difficult to implement. But we found our way and we will eventually reach the goal."

[cosmic swan]

Scrapped? What do you mean by that? (Sry english is not my first language)

[scenic hornet]

Im ok with removing creep if they nerf ms

[covert pilot]

anyone know reset date?

[cosmic swan]

Early June (so probably in 2-3 weeks if as announced)

[covert pilot]

ty

[pliant umbra]

good thing about creep is that it makes the dungeon actually feel scary again, always gotta be on your toes like in the early days when you didn't know shit

[high sapphire]

thats a good way to think abt it lol. i like the change tbh

[polar talon]

silent walk is fair enough it is so slow. and creep for rogue is also really fair

[high sapphire]

they def balanced it

at first it was wild

[fervent lantern]

whatever happened with us supposed to be getting druid in live?

[sinful gull]

Druid on test happened, now they are probably making Sorc first, instead. 😂

[fervent lantern]

[jaunty topaz]

and sorc will take like half of wizard's spells in the process lul

[fervent lantern]

why do we even need a sorc when we already have 2 main line casters?

[cosmic swan]

Sdf talked about it a few day ago in the General chat he said that "After Druid, I'm thinking Sorcerer. Unfortunately, I can't promise when that will happen." So they're going to release druid before sorc (seems they don't even started sorc) and also that "Druids are still having trouble making animal animations feel good in first person. This is why this class was so difficult to implement. But we found our way and we will eventually reach the goal." So maybe we'll have druid next wipe or early after the wipe

[fervent lantern]

and you already know that druid rats are gonna be hiding in the gem room, waiting, stalking

[cosmic swan]

I think they're going to adjust the map to block those kind of thing. Like they do when new horrible double jump spot are found

[fervent lantern]

you know now that you mention that, i kinda miss the Ruins map

[elfin fern]

@hard sierra you lucked so hard there ffs

[hard sierra]

Did I? I was stuck in the middle of a door and still won the fight afterwards.

[elfin fern]

that was a clean headshot, you should have gone down easy but somehow survived

if i wanted to, i could have gone all in while you were stuck and decided to give you a moment even though you attacked me for no reason

[hard sierra]

I do troll, others around troll will contest or grief. I'm just taking out the trash that needs disposing of. No need to take it personally. But no it was not luck on my part.

[elfin fern]

maybe say that when you're not below 1/4 hp

never seen a faster heal shrine pull

[hard sierra]

You had first strike in the fight even though I initiated it, and lost. I don't mind seeing you again and showing you how to better fight people. But thinking like this only makes your play worse mate.

I spawned south of Hideout; I knew it was there, I'm the one who cleared all that lol.

[faint trellis]

can i post a screenshot in this chat of an DnD map to ask a question?

[summer bloom]

what drops glowing blue eyes ?

[elfin fern]

frost walker, the ice zombie in ice caves

[empty sun]

please don't copy paste spam like this in multiple channels and don't spread misinformation that isn't how bans or temp bans work @earnest current

[tidal kelp]

give cleric real ranged damage

[knotty kernel]

Why? Cleric is fine, sure smite should be unnerfed now that no other classes can use it.

[empty zealot]

Like ambush needs to work with hand xbow again

[fleet aurora]

just got "Echo of Screams" unique axe on my rogue from a class token, how much are these going for on market?

[tidal kelp]

a "cleric" is a ranged class, for some reason IM feels they need to not have ranged spells. "But healz" is a BS argument.

[rocky plover]

are they ever gonna fix the bug where the game thinks ur holding shift or alt when in menus? im getting tired of dropping items when i want to pick them up from containers or "split" singular items. i mean, how the hell do i even split a longbow ingame?

[cosmic swan]

Maybe more in #q-and-a

[outer ridge]

Around 20k unless it’s got good rolls then maybe 40k

[tidal kelp]

I think the entire Cleric spellkit needs reworked.

[wind venture]

I wish there was a proper barb named weapon, a bardish or zwei.

[rough whale]

Could I ask why? Or why you think that?

[wind venture]

I'm also still saying it traps should slow you, not lock you in place And it takes way to long to try and get out of it.

[wind venture]

Okay I'm trying to understand, why it is allowed for 1 MM volley to kill a 182 51%hp-mr barb

[brisk mason]

What you dont like stinky stick

[limber verge]

echo of screams? life after death? Soul scraper?

[wind venture]

@limber vergeEcho meme, life after death meh, soul scraper only good one

[solar sage]

This game fell off so hard...

Check in after a week,and now the player count has divided by 2 again,how much time left till wipe?

[cosmic swan]

Early June, so 2-3 week if as annouced

[solar sage]

Ah oki,not too bad then

[cosmic swan]

Yep, and we didn't had a hotfix this week so i think they're focusing on the upcoming patch

[solar sage]

I damn hope so

Cuz we legit havent had A N Y new content in 4 months now

But lets not get our hopes up,the only things we're getting is ice abyss and druid

Ice abyss that no one will play since ice caves is aids,and druid thatll be OP for the first week before just falling in oblivion

[cosmic swan]

Yes sdf teased us a bit about what in coming up a few fay ago in the general chat, he talked about progress on the druid, a new matchmaking system (that I think will solve the empty lobby issues) and maybe the arena game mode

[solar sage]

BRO WHY DO THEY WANT ARENA SO BAD

THEY BARELY HAVE ENOUGHT PLAYERS FOR THE MAIN GAME

[cosmic swan]

Druid in on the test server since a few week now I think they got the data to balance him or at least fix all the bug that they didn't see before the release

[solar sage]

Druid seemed like a better cleric,at least from my pov

[cosmic swan]

I don't get it either, for me some thing like that : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem. It was also posted on reddit and in the com someone (Virtual_Jello_1001) posted some more idea like :
"A mystical chest: a super rare one of one chest that spawns on every map. The location of the chest is random and unknown but players are lead towards it by an icon on their compass and the chest emits a glowing sound to attract players to its location. The loot doesnt have to be crazy but a bit juicy to get players excited!

A treasure goblin: a treasure goblin mini boss that runs around the dungeon. Players are notified of his location by his psycopathic giggling and sounds of gold pieces hitting the floor of the gold pieces he leaves in his trail ( think diablo treasure goblin) if he isnt killed in time he will open a portal and dissapear.

A god shrine: a one time use random spawn special shrine that gives the player a God buff and makes them glow gold. (Nothing too OP maybe it gives you like +3 all attributes) the downside would be your location would then be visible to all players on the minimap and compass. And whoever kills you can pick up the buff"

would have been awesome

[solar sage]

I have a couple of suggestions myself

Remove all attributes bonuses from gear,remove ALL damage and speed boosts off of gear,as they make the meta too cancerous

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554229/additional-and-true-damage-should-be-deleted-from-the-game

[solar sage]

Then,actually ADD content to the game,new weapons,new classes,new armors,new spells before adding anything else

[cosmic swan]

Imo stuff like the first suggestion i posted is more important than new weapons, classes, armors, spells etc. We already had a few of that but the gameplay loop didn't really got any update since the release in EA. We need new stuff to do in game

And new stuff / class mean spending time and balancing after they're out. While those forge idea would be only a module of a map

[solar sage]

Well they're adding new maps so thats that

I think that "diablo-fying" it with random loot gremlin mechanics is just a little too much to ask atm

[cosmic swan]

Well I mainly agree with the Ritual room / forge surggestion. The 3 other might be cool but would be like little bonus and wouldn't be enough by themselves

(Don't forget to vote for the suggestion, some of them was added in game)

[potent mulch]

I'm losing faith boys

my play group stopped playingI and I've been forced to play with randoms

[cosmic swan]

Why did they stop? And the wipe is coming in 2-3 week (Early June if as announced)

[potent mulch]

they just got bored of the game it wasn't one specific thing

[whole flint]

Any idea how to claim pre season 1 rewards?

Made it to Voyager but haven't received any of my rewards after logging in

[cosmic swan]

Look at the last message in #q-and-a

[potent mulch]

biggest complaint was the game loop got stale, they felt that IM released multiclassing as a way to excuse not creating any new content, and on top of that player base got divided between people who stopped playing when multi classing was a thing and hated it, and the people who loved multiclassing left when it was removed

[whole flint]

Will do thanks

[rapid fractal]

My groups hitting the same. We are tired of normals but HR is full of golden boys

Feels like the content i wanna do is locked behind geared players.

[cosmic swan]

Yeah I understand, we were talking about that just a few message before with @solar sage. Look at the suggestion I send and vote for them if you like them ^^

[potent mulch]

i'm just a little defeated at this point, I don't want to be the doom and gloom guy I just dont see the point of playing and getting better gear if I have no one to run the kits with

I've had this theory in my head (and this is all theory at the end of the day) that IronMace might be hemmoraghing money to the point they don't have enough to develop new content in a timely manner

[rapid fractal]

I personally think they are waiting to overhaul big things and release it with wipe and on epic(and hopefully steam) for bigger inpact

[cosmic swan]

I think there is not much more to do than trying to make constructive suggestion / upvote those who are good and talk about them so IM see them and how interresed about it we are. For me the main focus should be one adding stuff to do in game like that :https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Something to slow down fight / have a longer TTK like that : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554229/additional-and-true-damage-should-be-deleted-from-the-game or https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/552833/short-ttk-is-killing-this-gamereduces-all-the-damage-done-by-players

And maybe the most important get ride of that system to end the empty lobby issue : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/551119/remove-the-multi-waiting-lobbies-system (IM do have said somethin about a new matchmaking system for the next season that I think will solve the empty lobbi issue)

[cosmic swan]

Yeah I think so to, that might explain why we didn't get a hotfix this week. They're probably focusing on the next big patch

[cosmic swan]

And I don't think the Steam release would be a good thing right now, imo they need to release on steam for the 1.0. Because IM probably still want to try thing with the game, thing that may change it a lot like MC did. And I believe in the end that make the game better, but people don't see it that way (look at what happen with MC). And I think it's more easy to do that kind and test and huge change in EA when it's acted that the game isn't finished. Doing that after the 1.0 is harder I think, people have paid for a "finished" game, if thing change to much they might destroy it on Steam comment and vote and so really hurt the game

[muted crow]

@glad thunder people are tired of helping you develop this game rn. please increase ttk and make the pvp playable.

[glossy barn]

Yeah, we’re also sick of you knuckle heads taking too much ketamine and listening to the terrible ideas found on this cord and on the sub.

Solo mode didn’t save the game.

Get rid of it and focus the next 10 months of developing “Dark and Darker” instead of

“Hello Kitty Solo PVE dungeon lite”

[formal moon]

Can't simply increase the ttk. A lot of things have to change in tandem

[formal moon]

GC did more damage than good and is the biggest reason the game has little to no pop

[glossy barn]

But but but “Solo players saved the game!” 😂

Buncha unsocialized Tik Toc addicts combined their tears and flooded the already strained devs to the point they went against their own wishes and made a solo mode.

Permanently splitting the playerbase and forever delaying content. Like the devs knew it would, which is why they never wanted to add it.

Thanks solo players for killing Dark and Darker

Well done 👍

[formal moon]

The devs are more at fault than the gamers. We had 50k + ppl and they got greedy and wanted to grab more sales. Classic blunder that kills almost every dev that falls for it

[glossy barn]

Solo mode wasn’t for new players, that’s what normal lobbies were for.

Solo mode was originally intended as a bare bones warm up at best before your friends came online or LFG became more active.

Under no circumstances, and I can’t be clear enough about this, did thousands of new players rush out to buy the game and join us after goblin caves were introduced.

That’s because it was initially marketed to the players as a warmup, not as a full fledged paralleling game mode

Solo players kept crying for the last 10 months until development on the actual game, Dark and Darker, was seemingly indefinitely put on hold

No druid, no ruins, no combined hell lobbies, no ice dragon, no working talent tree system, no working gbmm system.

That’s all because of solo players costing the devs time they didn’t have, all for solo players to NOT save the game like some of them claim after inhaling too much glue and sprinting here to regurgitate bad points

[muted crow]

the pvp is currently giga dogwater tier. increasing ttk even without making adjustments would be an immediately improvement cause it can only go up from here.
if other shit needs to be adjusted, then they can simply do that. we're still in EA for a reason.

@glossy barn not even gonna touch you meth addled solo mode takes though

[cosmic swan]

Excactly

[limber nimbus]

genuinely what are the solo players who just enjoy the game supposed to do in this scenario? getting rid of solos altogether makes no sense when, I would argue, a majority of the player base doesn't have 2 other people who play this consistently enough to have a group.

[glossy barn]

Fact based logic kid, you should remove the railroad spike from your corpus callosum 😄

[glossy barn]

Do what we did before solo was introduced and Dark and Darkers remaining playebase wasn’t mostly awkward rejects, use LFG and play with randoms 😂

[limber nimbus]

tried that twice and got TKd both times, never again

[cosmic swan]

You can try to argue with him, I did that but he won't change his mind xD

[glossy barn]

Nothing to change, solo players killed this game.

Devs knew this would happen

[limber nimbus]

im not trying to argue i just want to know what could ACTUALLY help in this situation. I realize there isnt going to be a solution that everyone loves but i do know the game isnt sitting in a good spot atm

[echo sparrow]

Trios enjoys in shambles

[limber nimbus]

love the game and i just dont have enough friends who feel the same to want to get gear diffed in every trios lobby

[cosmic swan]

Dilo — Aujourd’hui à 17:45
I think there is not much more to do than trying to make constructive suggestion / upvote those who are good and talk about them so IM see them and how interresed about it we are. For me the main focus should be one adding stuff to do in game like that :https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Something to slow down fight / have a longer TTK like that : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554229/additional-and-true-damage-should-be-deleted-from-the-game or https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/552833/short-ttk-is-killing-this-gamereduces-all-the-damage-done-by-players

And maybe the most important get ride of that system to end the empty lobby issue : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/551119/remove-the-multi-waiting-lobbies-system (IM do have said somethin about a new matchmaking system for the next season that I think will solve the empty lobbi issue)

We talked about that like 2 hours ago, you can go look back at what was said

[limber nimbus]

oh yea i really like those first suggestions, and i definitely agree with removing add and true. And i also understand were 2 months into a wipe so the player count is going to be down regardless if the game was flawless. although i just looked and tarkov stays above 100k concurrent so there is work to be done

[dusky oxide]

this game is so incredibly dead now, it peaks at 5k players these days. They lost all momentum with the bs multiclassing and now havent added any rebalancing or any new content in weeks. While also allowing cheaters to swarm the lobbies. Devs need to do something quick

[glossy barn]

Multiclassing brought more people back to play than with the previous patch lol, delusional solo players trying to shift blame away from themselves again 😂

[dusky oxide]

thats where youre wrong buddy because when multiclassing came out it dropped the player base from a steady 10k to 6k, youre just an iron mace rider and need to check your facts buddy

[glossy barn]

naw, the player count wasn’t anywhere near 10 pre multiclassing you solo shill 😂

Go play with your second hand fleshlight collection, cause as a solo player I know you have no one else to play with

[cosmic swan]

Yes but I don't think we can compare IM to other studio that easily, they're much smaller than the one of Tarkov for exemple. And personally I don't know how the game industry or even just the work condition or accessibility work in South Korea. It's not that simple imo.

[limber nimbus]

oh for sure i wasnt trying to do apples to apples, im just hoping one day that could be a goal we could actually see attained.