game-discussion

[vestal silo]

agreed

[elfin surge]

i personally dont really run into it very often, but when i do i just kite a doorway and fight 1v1

[limpid geyser]

I guess mobs hitting you through doors that have never been opened is a feature? not a bug aye?

[main garden]

@zenith ginkgo gl with that

[subtle heart]

There's a reason they are teaming up with each other and not with you.

Skill issue

[zenith ginkgo]

nice bait comment man!

[brisk mason]

Is there any reason to even try to do the second weaponsmith quest? I want the craftables but 20 gold bars is like 15k gold

[thin patrol]

OH yeah, the second fighter knew my position without any voip calls, they went after me without any calls ingame, they campfired without communicating over voip, holy shit, they are so fucking hyperaware that preteaming is not allowed you fucking

[vestal silo]

good point

[nocturne quest]

is there any way to choose which rare weapons i hand in for the quest?

[subtle heart]

Not much reason unless you have lots of time on your hands

[limpid geyser]

I have said it once, I will say it again. This game's PVE is the reason its dying so quickly

[frail spire]

Ppl have been saying it's dying quickly for like, 10 months now lol.

It's not dead, it's not dying.

[subtle heart]

The pve is actually pretty easy and kind of fun if you're good enough to get a few people/teams to work with you at the start of a lobby instead of fighting each other

People are really sleeping on the deep diplomatic strategy aspect of this game

[subtle heart]

The moment you’re able to learn to parry all the attacks from ai you breeze through everything. Take no damage and 1-2 hit everything. Even night mare mobs

[gaunt crypt]

Where can I report teamers in goblin HR ?

[subtle heart]

Yeah that's true too, but some people struggle with that and it turns out there's an even better way to tackle it. Just be like-able or useful to literally anyone else in the lobby

[mild maple]

Is there any news about alchemist quests? Not being able to buy blue books or staves is a struggle

[warm ether]

Haven't checked here in a while, looks like the recent patches have been good steps forward...

Is ranger still OP or have stat changes affected them somehow? Looks like they've only receieved buffs..

[brisk mason]

Yeah its really annoying. Just gotta run it down at em then leave

[hot cobalt]

Why can I turn in shields for the Weaponsmith quest Aiding A Legacy but Drum doesn't count?

[vestal silo]

does affinity give you better prices?

[near mirage]

Any advice on a new player who seems to cannot survive well in the game?

[jaunty topaz]

1. Memorize this video
   https://youtu.be/9QV11Au-fME?si=SpcLk-81X4OfuDmF
2. Other players are not your friends, do not trust anyone
3. Get out if an opportunity presents itself, the goal of the game is to survive, not loot forever

[dark saffron]

Got to die over and over learn how the mobs swing watch some videos on how to fight all the different mobs. It has a learning curve but once you get down the basics it will feel a lot better

[hot cobalt]

This doesn't make sense to me, doesn't Drum count as a weapon?

[jaunty topaz]

It's also helpful to watch streamers such as jaygriffy to see what strategies they use to survive

[gilded trout]

Another reason economy is dead is cuz quests. everything requires a ton of stash space, cant be buying multiple sets and everything that you need to turn in has to be looted not bought

[hot cobalt]

Yeah I agree, quests. But lets get to the real question, is Drum considered a weapon?

[lapis cedar]

How do I get 2 kills and it counts as 10 Ap, thats mad

[gilded trout]

Werent you here for the drum meta?
they are the best weapon

[subtle heart]

should weapon mastery fighter be allowed to drum 🤔

[open bolt]

100%

[hot cobalt]

Then why can't I turn it in for the Aiding A Legacy quest if it's a weapon

[velvet lava]

anyone elses game freezing and rubberbanding for no reason this patch? just died to a goblin cause my game froze and only unfroze before i died mid swing...

[wet leaf]

LOL, bugged me too, can we Turn lanterns? Spellbooks?

[hot cobalt]

I didn't try lanterns, but spellbooks do work

[kind bane]

I’m quite curious about the keys and how they work. I’m a newer player there is a lot I haven’t experienced, but I just got 2 golden key’s from high roller crypts this morning.
Do the Golden Key and the Skull Key open the same things? Can the Rusty Key be used on the same things?

[hard thistle]

Worse is landing 15 killing blows on the lich

[knotty igloo]

absolutely cannot wait until wizard is nerfed into the floor

[vestal silo]

the aggro system still needs some tweaking. people above me somehow trigger mobs below them and that mob walks across me and suddenly i have aggro

[hazy cairn]

same

[obtuse citrus]

Anywhere to report Goblin teamers? Report feature in game doesn’t have the option

[calm jolt]

It would be REALLY nice to be able to complete quests for leathermaker and woodsman partial - keeping e.g. 14 caps in stash task huge space and in this case the first you need to do is to grind for stash expansion... (like you can give caps to him many times until you provided all 15)

[nocturne quest]

is there any way to choose which rare weapons i hand in for the quest?

[hot cobalt]

Lanterns do not work

[kindred breach]

90% of these quests are not worth it from a reward standpoint

[hot cobalt]

It is 100% worth it for the affinity, which is apart of the rewards.

[kindred breach]

not really, i can just buy anything via trade with way less grinding by just farming gold. the trader rep is pretty meh overall and the rewards are especially bad. only the gold chest is really worth it

[vestal silo]

wizard cast time needs a nerf. Wizard with full default and a blue book easily wiped me. I had full green/blue. He did over half my health with one lightning strike. Yes yes yes I hit him with my xbow,but by the time i had it reloaded for a second shot i was dead. I cant outrun him cuz he is much much faster, even with trash gear. No way he should be able to cast his spells that fast with default knowledge.

[silent grove]

nerf crossbow omg its so broken

[copper quest]

Am i the only one who feels like my arrows just like phase through things at times

[proper ore]

Assuming fighter from the way your talking, yeah wizards your hard counter, dont fight wizards

[pure flare]

whats the use of gingerbread?

[true plume]

hitboxes are too good i've seen my arrows go under arm pits and shit

[pure flare]

they are horrible lmao i hit skeletons in the head and it passes through them or doesnt register and other times i just shoot but no noise of it hitting or landing anywhere they just phase into thin air

[true plume]

never had that happen the hitboxes in this game are top notch. if anything it can be annoying how good they are. except for the part where enemies can swing through walls but i can't :\

[wild jay]

There's glitches yes. Like sometimes triple shot doesn't even shoot, you'll know because you'll do it and the animation happens but you can do it again because it didn't actually trigger

[pure bear]

when the game is on plz?

[knotty zodiac]

please bring high roller duos

[vapid arch]

#📢announcements message

[solar moon]

i made a bug report, but anyone else having random rank drops? i was pathfinder last night, now im neophyte 2. 0 reason why i wouldve gone down that much overnight

[true plume]

thought i read that it was graphical glitch tbh

[dreamy vine]

I HATE ROUGES

[sleek sleet]

how did a rogue with unique and purple shit insta push me at spawn ON RUINS????

[pulsar pebble]

Because the spawns are 5 seconds apart? Lol

[sleek sleet]

bro how does he have UNIQUE gear u only can wear white gear no?

[west granite]

why is combat so clunky? It feels outdated. Reminds me of morrowind. Like 20 years ago this would be revolutionary

[pulsar pebble]

I pulled a purple cape from thr first chest i looted in ruins yesturday. Was insane
So id guess super lucky or maybe they have an exploit

[sleek sleet]

u cant find unique in ruins bro xD

[fluid lion]

Ok

[pulsar pebble]

"allegedly" you cant. They also didnt tell us the game had hidden match making until like 2 weeks after the fact. Lol

[sleek sleet]

i played like 250+ runs with luck pot everythjing on ruins never found legendary even xD

[wind pollen]

fix the fucking sound audio. how can i not hear a fighter in full plate armor behind me while im mining?. like be fucking fr

[hot cobalt]

I'd compare the combat more to Mordhau or Chivalry. Morrowinds combat was structured like a table top RPG where you had to level up your stats to properly connect your attacks to enemies.

[main garden]

skill based match making is great, tbh they should just remove gear at this point since most people at high mmr are running meta kits so its all even ground you know? lets convert it to a full battle royale where legendaries have a higher drop rate and everything wipes at the end of a run :D, then we can implement true ranks instead of whatever AP are measuring

[west granite]

I have played quite a bit of chivalry and mordhau, some of my favorite 'combat' games. I personally have to disagree with the comparison, beyond maybe the weapon being a 'physical' item swinging if that makes sense. You lack massive amounts of control and are locked into a repeating animation combo.

it has the same feeling as early game morrowind or skyrim, but without the ability to stagger and with huge damage numbers in contrast to low health.

[rustic narwhal]

anyone else lagging or having crazy stutters?

[main garden]

always, its normal, maybe one day they will fix US west

[zealous olive]

how much does 1 gold ingot typically go for?

[terse ridge]

is crafting rubysilver stuff wwith decent stats worth to sell it or nah?

[spare musk]

Where can you find Royal gems?

[terse ridge]

around 600 now,it will go up @spare musk as far as i know only in hr hell

[spare musk]

in chests? Anywhere in hell?

[terse ridge]

yea,big chests most likley, i once got big royal treasure from barrel so i guess it can drop anywhere?

[simple badger]

whats the gingerbread people for

[obsidian stag]

punching a wizard should one shot them

[ashen current]

Does anyone know if the cleric sanctuary heals enemies too?

[restive parrot]

If they aren’t undead then yea

[harsh portal]

Doesnt it deal damage to them?

[cold cipher]

it spawns on ruins aswell, in caves on the corner of the map

[eager oracle]

people are taking the game pretty seriously rn there are pain points but normal lobbies with friends are still fun every few days its still a good 35 dollar investment

no way a casual is gonna enjoy trying to quest and grinding for 3k gold to have space to do that though

[placid crystal]

seems like theres a Workaround to take gear with you in normals, got a full kitted rouge in normals

[brazen grove]

imagine going broke with HIGH MMR

[spare musk]

The one that spawns gold ore too?

[main garden]

@brazen grove exactly! thats why we should just remove all gear in general since high mmr is only purple+ gear and low mmr is only grey/white gear, its a win win!

[runic isle]

I just encountered a rogue in ruins, who had full purple gear and legendary dagger, and gold purses... Is there some sort of bug that allows you to join ruins with gear ?

[brazen grove]

happened to me too we killed both of them
@spare musk i think you misunderstood each other Gold Ore ONLY spawns on ruins and is not in any chest whatsoever

[lapis veldt]

whats the point of keeping barb in the game if the fighter is just a barb but better now

[spare musk]

I’m not asking about gold ore. I’m asking about the royal gems

[brazen grove]

my bad i misread the answer, royal gems in big chests or treasure hoard i never got one outside of these with base luck. gets better with more luck

[spare musk]

Oh geez. I need 4 for my quest lol then I get a gold chest

[solar moon]

so im guessing no one else experienced this bug?

[serene mesa]

try to get a slayer fighter build going, you can look it up on youtube and it is one of the best classes for the goblin caves, also remember fighter has the ability to use the crossbow which is one of the best weapons in the game

[cold cipher]

ye

[spare musk]

Best fighter class, is to go the main menus, make a new character, create a rogue. Boom

[sullen scroll]

@foggy fiber Slayer fighter dual wield swift and weapon mastery

[weak umbra]

what's the point of keeping any class if fighter is just better x class

[keen shale]

slayers usually run with a falchion/arming sword and a lamp

[last iris]

Sometimes fun to take something like arming and short sword for longer combos too

[worldly relic]

are Silver Ingots used for anything yet?

[weak umbra]

can we delete this fucking ranked trash

[hollow mirage]

Barbs needa rework?

[weak umbra]

who ever tought its a good idea? now i need to choose between battle royale or ranked HR with nobody but campers/exploiters/teamers/meta slaves. every fucking game im:
a. camped at the zone border
b. teamed on
c. killed by fighter cleric ranger because that's the only team in HR
or i can camp the whole game to then see that every single player on top is on the leaderboard because his team is funneling all treasuers and last hits to him. just spectate your fucking game once, at least 1 team will look like this: 2 guys with nothing in their inventory and 1 playing Tetris instead of dark and darker with all his blue-purple treasures.

everything in this trash ranked system is luck based, oh you have a bad spawn geuss what you wont gain any ap nice pve ranked when player kill gives you 5 points

[eager oracle]

play crypt casually in normals, play one of the meta classes, and you will be a lot less stressed friend. treat the game like a battle royale, it obviously is one at this point just accept it

[hollow mirage]

Streamers getting fed by their followers

[signal osprey]

Why dont wizards get bumped out of invis?

[weak umbra]

because reddit never cried about it

[exotic drift]

what are you talking about, every streamer i see playing gets 5x the amount of loot on their own their followers give them, sustained sure, once in a while they get a kit but so do people with freinds that give them kits?

i assume this dude poppped in katies stream and saw 13 keys in her loot box not aware she grinded for like 10 of those yesterday on stream

[weak umbra]

imagine defending streamer scums i NEVER saw a streamer teaming with other streamers/viewers, i NEVER saw entire stashes of gear just handed to them, i NEVER saw anything like that seriously.

[exotic drift]

Whoa, imagine thinking you can even talk to me and best me with your level of intellect. I could mimic how you speak word for word and mirror it back to you. It's so boring

[lapis veldt]

No portals at the end is getting old

[sharp pivot]

so about explosion.. why?

[exotic drift]

game is pretty punishing. if i kill multiple players that camped the whole round while i actually looted and ran through the map fighting multiple mobs, and then dont get a portal at the end, i wish'd id just ran to center circle as rogue and stood over sets of doors for a few rounds waiting to ambush people

[serene mesa]

yes it is a hardcore game, hardcore being a synonym for punishing

[kindred gull]

NERF RANGER AND PHYS DMG RED

[noble flint]

When will we be able to go into normal dungeons with better then Common gear?

[halcyon coral]

I would appreciate if someone could give their thoughts/feedback on this?

[last owl]

Is this game windows only?

[zealous nova]

Fighter nerf incoming, I've leveled all classes in the GC. Get shit on by fighter, finally switched back can see why, it's easy mode

[hollow mirage]

Literally ^

[vagrant path]

aucttion house when? trade is tedious

[gilded trout]

170+ traders in Fighter trade, 70 in the next highest. Idk why people always have to play the current broken meta and just help ruin the game

[vagrant path]

Fighter has always had way more than other classes, only rogue ever was close

[daring shell]

All the barbs switched over to pdr fighters 💀

[restive brook]

all they need to do is nerf fighter second wind and sprint then the games fully balanced - rangers obviously

[gilded trout]

Give every class weapons as good as falchion/longsword/crossbow. @daring shell Literally they have to. Fighter beats barb in every category, only reason im playing barb is because ive put too much time into this wipe already and dont want to start trying to save up on the other classes now

[daring shell]

Yeah it’s unfortunate this wipe, I usually like barb but this patch it’ sucks lol. I think they needed to test out the new attributes tho so prolly better next wipe

[spring veldt]

I feel like second wind would be more thematic on barb with their main defense being health, swap it there and give fighters a short duration shield wall that needs skill and has counterplay

[gilded trout]

honestly blows my mind they drop something as game changing as the stat change and dont bother to look into what it does to every class and what that means for gear prioritization. They say they arent focused on balancing for solo's but duos is literally only ranged and trios is buffball. They might have a great game, good ideas, and good intentions but they suck at balancing

[timid umbra]

balancing comes last in development

[daring shell]

I agree I feel like they should know their own game a bit more. Seems every patch they are dropping the ball on a couple of classes.

Also tho, by far this is the most fun I’ve had on a patch so excited to see the upcoming patches

[gilded trout]

yeah maybe so. @daring shell overall id say im having a good time this patch too tho. just upset my fav class is so trash and has no role

[rocky tundra]

killing 15 wisps seems ridiculous considering like maybe 4 spawn per map

[wild jay]

Lmao welcome everyone, to what we've been trying to tell you for months now. Fighter has been meta for a very long time lol and anyone else saying otherwise is just trolling. However, id like to think that all the classes should be buffed to be as good as fighter

[dapper burrow]

anyone know how much a golden key is going for?

[twin magnet]

killing whisp is significantly easier then collecting 15 campfires

[jaunty prawn]

fighter is consistently good because he's a jack of all trades. but i wouldnt call him broken.

[wild jay]

When was hr NOT campers/exploiters/teamers/meta slaves it's literally always been that way

[dim dune]

The aggro on the PVE is ruining the game for my friends and I. I play the game for PVP and we all just started playing and we're getting pretty good at it. The only problem is the PVE doesn't stop aggro even after going invis or closing the door on them. The second I walk back into the vicinity they're instantly aggro'd back to me.. It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't on a time crunch and had to ABSOLUTELY kill them to even think of taking a portal. There's no time to loot any of my kills or try to get my bearings back because the zone is going to inevitably kill me.. is there any talks of removing the zone or changing the way the A.I works with the mobs? It seems like the only way is to get them into a room and close the door on them, pretty lame if ya ask me. I wouldn't even mind a map with less PVE and more PVP because if I wanted to fight PVE I'd just go play Elden Ring lmao

[jaunty prawn]

the ai on pve needs work and the game time needs to be expanded a bit. same thing happens in hr goblin caves. pvp is not a reward and a huge risk when it happens at the last minutes of the game

[vapid oyster]

nope, pve aggro is cancer and will continue to be cancer. The way aggro works is 100% moronic and the mobs deliberately grief you by stopping in doorways and refusing to move, I'm sure IM thinks it's cute or something but it's not

[dim dune]

I completely agree with y'all.. there would 100% be a bigger player base with less PVE and more PVP..

[jaunty prawn]

it's not about reducing the pve though, it's more about fixing it's behavior and making the match time a little bit longer
anyways tomorrow another copycat of dark and darker is gonna make a playtest. im looking forward to see if it's gonna be any good
it's called "dungeon stalkers" on steam

[vapid oyster]

people think players don't want to play HR because they want to grief new players but it's really just the fact that pve is boring and it's just more fun to play LR and not deal with a shit load of red skellies running mach 3 ruining every fight

[dim dune]

If they made a map with static portals guarded by bosses it would give more incentive for people to actually work together to kill the PVE or simply PVP and then do it afterwards on their own. I can't shake these goblin cave runs where i'm running to look for a portal and I gotta kill 20 mobs before I get into the next zone.. it's not fun.

[broken bronze]

alota L takes tonight

[vapid oyster]

in LR, if I get aggro from a few skellies, it can put me at a disadvantage, but it rarely just cuts off all my options, in HR, if I'm trying to pvp and get aggro from multiple red skellies I basically have to run for my life becuase if I stop to cast a spell I'm prolly taking a hit from the pve. pvp is the only fun part of the game and HR makes it more annoying than it needs to be

[jaunty prawn]

saying to improve the pve's behavior and giving more time to engage on pvp is an L take. aight random troll. go on about your day now

[vapid arch]

this channel is nothing but L takes

[tiny epoch]

guys does it count towards the st nicholas quest if you teamkill a barb

[woeful iris]

How are you suppose to dodge the cyclops ceiling collapse thing? is there somewhere I'm suppose to stand?

[dim dune]

Give me a map with Mini Bosses and Bosses and straight PVP otherwise.. killing 30 skeletons on my way to find someone ain't doing it. Tarkov has their extraction system done right and scavs won't run to the ends of the earth to keep killing you like zombies. People are magnetised to certain areas for higher tier loot and you get rewarded for winning PVP fights in this game you don't get rewarded for winning pvp which needs to be reworked in some way.

[fathom cradle]

Any reason the armorer quest won't complete? He keeps saying I don't have space when I do.

[torn pilot]

how much does token of honor go for?

[supple grove]

So trying to fight the new boss, second face, it makes rocks fall from the sky. I cant out heal them, can block them, cant avoid them. So what am i suposed to do?

[lapis veldt]

I sold mine for 250

[waxen beacon]

strafe jump is what i found works

[twin magnet]

bwo.... your quest......

[dim dune]

behind him I believe

[torn pilot]

which quest?

[lapis veldt]

I don’t play enough to do the quests I weld 50 hours a week and have a girlfriend oh well

[supple grove]

Well dont feel like that is a valid and reliable strat. But i guess il try. Feels like its not an intended feature

[waxen beacon]

seen a vid of a fighter doing it and i tried it and it worked

[woeful iris]

I tried the and rocks still fall on me

[supple grove]

I will try, but its comming from the sky, wtf is jumping supposed to do? when tf should i be jumping?

[lapis flower]

Volume mixing on this game is so bad. Sword hitting boxes loud as fuck

[broken bronze]

jump before rocks hit ground, aka right after he hits ground

[high sapphire]

anybody have white/grey hand crossys to sell. ill pay lots

[weak umbra]

someone just oneshotted me with zap, from full HP to 0
great fucking game i would say

[lapis flower]

Yeah the devs def dont play their own game, they just do "tests" lol;

[wanton otter]

Hitscan spells should be solid projectile so I can have a chance to block them.

[hardy sparrow]

Alright, I've done like, 6 dungeons. I died 5 times, and extracted once, and my merchant still hasn't reset - what gives?

[weary garden]

Ruins really needs a hr if the limit is gonna be common for normals

[weak umbra]

its not even about the one tap with zap, its about brain rot of people playing this game. we are both in the bat room, the last circle is shrinking. 2 portals and 2 people, me and enemy wizard. instead of just using a portal and leaving, he chased and killed me and died to zone. he just lost all his purple/legendary kit with full inventory of sellables to kill me and die, what's the fucking point?

[smoky estuary]

nothing compared to 15 liches

[vast sun]

how much are golden keys selling for right now?

[queen cliff]

hey guys, does anyone else know if the ghost king is bugged in highroller?

[lapis flower]

Absolutely crazy how I spawn in the exact same place 7 times in a row in goblin caves. The amount of shit they overlook is kind of scary. Basic QA and testing are ignored. Money grab money grab money grab. Need more emotes!!!!!

[weak umbra]

another raid, another fucking weirdos. triple ranger team is chasing me from the start of a game, then they camp me for 3 mins and kill me. im fucking naked with 0 loot. i didnt even looted a thing, what's the fucking point

@signal osprey battle royale

[woeful iris]

Still looking?

[high sapphire]

always. mrgrabs in rogue trade

[signal osprey]

Is this a battle royale or looter extraction game?

[lapis flower]

Arrows still going straight through heads not registering, constant rubber-banding, getting hit by phantom shit even though you're no where near the enemy. But no, let's make "tournaments" (lol) and more emotes!

[weak umbra]

i already said it before, this game has more emotes than reasons to play

[woeful iris]

I sent you a dm

[smoky estuary]

dawg u just got bad luck

[lapis flower]

U right lol

[young wind]

PETITION FOR RUINS HIGHROLLER

[signal osprey]

So its a problem when the whole lobby is rogues but not when the whole lobby is rangers? gotcha

[wanton otter]

already confirmed #📢announcements

[honest bay]

Warlocks are currently unable to function as characters. Plz add scouting points to rank so they can at least have a character concept.

[smoky estuary]

its coming theyre working on it rn

[lapis flower]

SAME SPOT AGAIN

[heady furnace]

What is the Centaur Hoof used for?

[hollow mirage]

Probably for crafting a weapon

[signal osprey]

might as well remove normals its not like anybody goes there to actually loot anyway its just being treated as a battle royale counterpart where ranger reigns supreme with their s tier starting kit

[weak umbra]

its not a bad luck, since like a month im always spawning in the same spots too. its like a rotation of spawns. 1 day i can spawn 15 times in 1 location, and the other day in another, but it all comes to like 5 spots anyway. i dont remember a time when i spawned somewhere else than like 5 mentioned spots

[smoky estuary]

luck

[weak umbra]

sure bud its luck, i need to be very lucky to spawn in the same 5 spots for like a month, its totally not like there are maybe 20-30 spawns and before i would spawn around the whole map all the time. hell is the same

[signal osprey]

def need highroller ruins asap normals is unplayable god forbid you wanted to go there for one of your quests everybodys keying and kos actually ridiculous you treat your game like a battle royale and everybody else will to like why do we need to learn the hard way we already knew gearcap was not a good idea and didnt work so why are we forcing it to "work" it straight up doesnt normals vs highroller are 2 completely different games played 2 completely different ways now. 0 foresight

[lapis flower]

They need to re-vamp the moving speed, that's the main culprit. Naked wizards and kiting rangers are an obvious problem that they haven't even acknowledged. I doubt they're actually looking at the data because it's been an issue for a long time.

[flint ingot]

golblin caves SUCK SO FUCKING MUCH everyone is teaming ganging up on you shamelessly

[little scarab]

the lag is horrible and you ruined loot. Keep up the work guys

[smoky estuary]

almost like theres 2 different maps in rotation and each one has different spawns

[main garden]

This is a tough one, wizards and rangers or any ranged class needs to be able to kite the slower classes like fighter/barb or else they will just get W keyed and instakilled, I'm all for nerfing ranger and wizard into the ground but taking away movement speed will make sure nobody ever touches the class again

[smoky estuary]

just nerf range all together bows and crossbows need massive nerfs. mm needs is scaling tuned down but otherwise most who complain about it W key into it and explosion needs a nerf

[lapis flower]

Maybe nerfing ranged dmg would be good, but as it stands if i go in ranger solo its hard to kill shjit even on normal lol

[smoky estuary]

so buff melee ranger capabilities in dnd they arent just a simple haha funny bow class

[signal osprey]

Both ranger and wizard have really decent melee range damage the whole point of there range damage is to poke em enough so they get the upperhand when it inevitably comes down to the melee fight but as it stands now unless your the worst ranger/wizard nobody is getting close to you and if your wizard your missles trumphs everysingle melee weapon except maybe warmaul or barb 2 handers

[cosmic quail]

whats the point of quests giving xp when the quests require like 20+ raids anyways. by that time you're already 20. unless it has to do with the future class master?

[lapis flower]

No I think maybe ranged dmg should be nerfed a bit honestly

[smoky estuary]

so nerf mm scaling again as it stands every point of will is bonus damage for mm so base 20 will is +10 damage per missle its kinda busted it needs to either be at 60-50 again

[hollow mirage]

Because the devs rush shit

[signal osprey]

missles should be nerfed into the ground it shouldnt out dps melee weapons at every level of the game

[main garden]

Its not even rushed, they just don't learn from their own pointless tests, everyone here already knew 100% scaling on MM was busted, we saw it dominate everyone a couple patches ago but here we are again 🤪

[lapis flower]

Yup. Why fix anything when you're still making $30 a pop? I love how their whole ethos was, "We are faster and more efficient than big evil corp Nexon". Literally think Nexon would do a better job listening to the palyers.

[smoky estuary]

not to the ground since that would run their pve ability it was horrible for pvp at 50 percent scaling and busted at 100 so they needa find a middle ground

[weak umbra]

actually☝️🤓 we nerfed every gear that we could 🤓 and every class that we could🤓so it was not obvious at all🤓we at ironmace are perfectly aware what to do next🤓

[cosmic quail]

people bring up nexon like the game's ex bf they always threaten to leave you for.

[vast nest]

Is it just me, or is it almost impossible to sell stuff in the trading post right now?

[signal osprey]

The whole killfeed in my last ruins game was recurve bow and magic missle

[lapis flower]

I just had that issue

[main garden]

@weak umbra very true, however they just replaced stacking +magical damage on everything to just building will for op scaling, even a blindman could see it equals the same outcome

[violet sentinel]

Lot of people in here complaining about issues that could be solved by not being ass at the game

[smoky estuary]

real

[cosmic quail]

that's why they're here in disc and not in the dungeons. been like this forever

[fallow basin]

Does magic damage % bonus on gear increase healing power too? Cuz it increases the magic power bonus stat

[lapis flower]

These are well documented bugs. You are actually defending rubberbanding on servers and arrows going through heads not registering? Lol... were you formula fed?

[signal osprey]

Solve the magic missle scaling catastrophe with your skill check. Keep in mind the devs nerfed missles for the same exact reason as everyones voicing there concerns for right now and than re buffed it the exact same way.

[kind osprey]

do blue statics only let one person go?

[cold reef]

Translation: Skill issue @violet sentinel

[smoky estuary]

missle aint hard to dodge the scalin needs a nerf but not a big one

[main garden]

I'd be a lot more understanding if it were 75% scaling and somehow was either extremely op because they tried both 100% and 50%, but no lets go back to 100% woohoo! idk man I have a lot of hope for this game but the more I see the dev patches the less I have, @violet sentinel @smoky estuary lmk when you reach exempler 😉

[cosmic quail]

you're the copy paste of every person who's spent hours in this disc complaining. you're calling people formula fed l m a o what kind of insult is that

[lapis flower]

Yeah, servers rubber-banding is a skill issue. What an astute observation. lol

[signal osprey]

id love to see you dodge a minigun with the barrel right in your face. Yeah you can dodge em if you have decent enough distance but when they come up and barrel stuff you your dead before you can even get a second melee swing. and your only dodgeing them that close if the wizard is terrible and cant track you

[smoky estuary]

dont W key they slow af

[signal osprey]

i already said its not the act of closing the distance thats the problem its once the distance is already closed. Melee loses the melee fight to wizadz 100% if the time currently. Id love to see you kill the wizard as you let him have all the distance he wants as he throws his whole book at you.

[smoky estuary]

sidesstep backwards

[hollow mirage]

I was booba milk fed

[signal osprey]

"relinquish distance to the ranged class" That never works bro like your already dead he already charged up a zap or icecle and killed you. your already dead

[rigid olive]

whats strongest classes now?

[vivid bay]

dude whats the pattern for killing a black death skull theres like not even a delay for its second charge

[signal osprey]

you closed the distance "dodged" his missles by giving up distance and you die. there is nothing that comes after giving up the distance that you just closed. Your already dead. you lost and you only dodged like 2 missles before he cancled and killed you with zap or icecle

[smoky estuary]

dawg do u know how to distance properly? u dont gotta move much to not get hit by all the missles when theyre done jump at them and attack theres better ways to get to them than skillless W key sprint fighter

[weak umbra]

i just saw triple rogue team with chinese names, no clue what are they doing :Skull:
now they are mining 2 ores at a time who would fucking guess

[orchid quartz]

bro did it ever occur to you that they're not talking about people complaining about bugs but people complaining about certain classes being "OP"?

[bronze spindle]

Can someone explain to me why DnD cant find itself back on steam, is there an issue or is it a creative choice of some description.

[signal osprey]

dude what are you talking about they dont just stand there and let you swing on them. They dont just cast missles and than give up if they miss. Like who are you jumping at you already gave up distance there already further from you and have already casted other spells. What delusion are you living in i really dont understand your thought process here. I understand like the 3 wizards youve killed had no idea how to play there class but when you actually fightsomeone with more than one braincell your whole plan crumbles before you can even realize how bad you are

[smoky estuary]

u cant move when casting MM dawg they stuck in place u dodge jump the missles and hit them

[signal osprey]

bro your not dodgeing any missles in melee range unless they are missing. thats not you dodgeing thats them being terrible theres a difference. and they are not stuck they can cancel and move there character at anytime they like

[smoky estuary]

so play like the rest of the damn fighters and crossbow spam wizards theres counter play dawg. the damage needs a slight nerf yes but W keying into missle is ur own problem that u needa solve urself

[pastel oak]

Yo is anyone else getting extreme input lag? Like when going to press E to open a door it takes like 2ish seconds, looting takes a second, etc.?

[orchid quartz]

Damn is this another plate fighter player complaining that a Wizard is a counter to their class while their class is pretty much a counter to all the classes in the game?

[high sapphire]

fuck fighters. let wizards kill em if nobody else can

[teal osprey]

what are silver ingots for?

[smoky estuary]

thats what ur doin tho youve typed paragraphs defending why plate fighters should get to W key through missles

[pastel oak]

So is anyone else getting rubberband/input lag issues on the east coast server? or no?

[signal osprey]

Not what i said at all never once defended that keep wallowing in your delusion enjoy your missles ima go play the game

[orchid quartz]

wanna know the best part? If they're not running Plate fighter they can easily W key Wizards but then they'll complain about Rangers

[mortal obsidian]

how does one win a position as a rogue when your stuck in the bottom left corner spawn of the map and a wizard is blocking your only way out?

[smoky estuary]

windlass on slayer is crazy

[orchid quartz]

shhh don't let them know how good windlass actually is 😉

[high sapphire]

fighters still complian tho

[main garden]

@mortal obsidian backpack pharmacy, you only win by having 200hp+ worth in meds and waiting him out

[smoky estuary]

fighters complain despite bein at the top for the last 5 patches

[orchid quartz]

how did you even end up in that situation? I don't think there's a map with a corner spawn that only has 1 way out

[mortal obsidian]

there is. its like a hallway with two rooms you can go into on the left, but they are dead ends with chests. on the other side of the hallway is a big room with archers. i couldnt go there because the wizard was blocking the hallway. there was an open door, but it was all the way on the other side of the hallway. I rushed him but died to three ice bolts. took off my clothes for more speed in stealth. and died to a wizard next game

[fickle oak]

anyone know what the silver ingots are for? not the powder

[lapis flower]

Chat was dead before I commented and that was my comment which sparked the convo, also I think nude wizards and kiting rangers are OP, so his comment was aimed at me

[mortal obsidian]

once im visible to them i am dead

[smoky estuary]

kite

[visual bloom]

whats the most recent rule update on teaming?

[silent sequoia]

Ggs shit aint fun GCs are dumb asf yall done made all my friends quit games trash

[orchid quartz]

I have never seen this spawn is this HR Crypt?
or did they add new map variants?

[wicked tartan]

Can skills list it's number of uses?

[dim dune]

Again, I die to zone because I gotta fight 20 skeletons in order to open the next door. Give us a pot that takes away aggro from adds because I can't kill 20 adds like a cleric.. there's no counterplay. Most of my deaths are from zone or PVE after PVP'in.. make it make sense dude.

[agile elm]

every other game i get hunted by some ESP squad because game has no anticheat

funny how they put in ranked system while doing nothing to cheaters or acknowledging the problem of chinese goldsellers cheating in every server

[solemn grove]

Would like to see a solo version of the duo map or have it made abit smaller, not that I don’t mind much but I’ll perfer to fight solos while killing skeletons, just to antisocial to play with a party n not that good against a team of two either way enjoying the patch so much

[broken bronze]

walk over spike trap, or pull agro 1 by 1?

[mortal obsidian]

goblin caves...

[dim dune]

The zone's killing me either way, I can kill them 1 by 1 but then I simply die to the zone and can't get out anyways. If there's no spike traps I can't bait them in that either, why not make invis pots take away agro from ads? I pop an invis and they just stand there waiting for me to come out of invis anyway LOL

[solemn grove]

Invis pots, when they leave, gives you enough time at most case scenario to open doors or give you abit to plan

[broken bronze]

they used to walk away in the good ol day, i think they r just perma bugged now

[agile elm]

mobs wont leave, they get stuck in place because trash AI :)

[orchid quartz]

ahhh that dreadful map
yea they need to fix that horrible map
I also have this one spawn there I hate the one where you spawn right behind a breakable barrier and there's a Goblin on the other side I'm not surprised now there's a another dead end there
They really need to fix that map it's so bad

[solemn grove]

Ahh I see, I haven’t had that issue much for a while, storm is not that bad to tank with heals either,

[dim dune]

The game's fun and the PVP is dope but the A.I is not healthy for the game, without any changes the game will not last. There's no counterplay to the zone/ads and doors. @solemn grove they mostly just stand there now even if you use an invis pot. I've only played for a few weeks now and it seems like a common problem with everyone. The A.I needs work it's just frustrating when there's almost no counterplay to beating the ads and zone. Yeah sometimes you get lucky and you're always in the zone but the outcome of raids shouldn't be based on lucky spawns.

[visual bloom]

i wonder if hughj knows how to force a mob to swing before trying to open the door

[solemn grove]

Well, it all planning, knowing I don’t have zone i push towards it right away, now it unlucky to encounter a player there, but I find it much worst to have a bad circle, then again the game also based on the random, ai needs it work don’t get me wrong but it feels in such a better state, idk what else to say, if there not much to do with the situation, learn and plan ahead

[keen void]

Lmao just got a fucking temp ban for no reason "abnormal detection"

[visual bloom]

ya, unfortunately this is a battle royal game. a bad zone is a bad zone... if your losing 2/3 the time then your playing the game just fine

[sharp night]

Hey, does anyone know if silver ingots have any purpose?

[worthy talon]

Ayy fuck yeah I just got a cheater banned, so glad to see that the reporting is working and they are taking action. W devs

[serene pagoda]

how much does 1 gold ingot sell for

[dim dune]

Hear me out; what if Dark and Darker had static extracts with valuable loot, mobs and bosses in certain areas. Players will migrate towards it for PVP, high tier loot and wholesome interactions to fight the boss. Get rid of the zone completely and that way new players can rat around non-active areas and still make it out with scraps.

Another idea, open world Dark and Darker with safe zones for merchants and your own stash to drop your loot. That would be kind of insane but I'm not sure they'd be able to do something like that.

[main garden]

@dim dune but without the zone how will we make it a battle royale?

[worthy talon]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

Take your suggestions there. They are thinking about removing the zone on the next map they implement i believe. I dont mind the zone personally, but it would be cool to have options.

[solemn grove]

I actually perfer the battle royals part of it, they just need a place to show newer player how to play, like 36 you can’t do anything is just a softer goblin cave with less ai, that slowly Ramps up

[agile elm]

oh u dont like avoiding infinite spiders that drop nothing? invincible gas clouds that last 5 min?

dont like getting oneshot by crossbow mobs because server cant handle 15 players?

oh look a high value chest, jk its a mimic that only drops white items :) haha big funny :)

15 lich kill quest fun (because devs said they dont use trade and only play 3mans and kill bosses)

[naive seal]

Idk what the rubberbanding problem is

[agile elm]

korean devs arent known for quality netcode

they put in crossbow mobs when their servers rubberband all day and get players killed because serverside ur character stands still but mobs still move

ppl were taking off starter clothes, what do devs do? punish players for doing it instead of thinking why they do it

[earnest current]

That's why when I heard about collaborating with Korea, the game was considered a waste. I've played a few Korean-made games in which the quest system is extremely bad, most of them are self-farming and have nothing to do with the in-game shop and 100% % will involve a lot of deposit

[sterile acorn]

does anyone else think this game just feels like shit

[deft trout]

Wonder if devs are ever gonna address the horrendous servers and terrible lag compensation. I have never seen a worse system.

[mortal obsidian]

i cannot winn

[earnest current]

quest system like shit

[vagrant path]

where does it say you get a key in game?

[oblique pecan]

Captured Mana Flakes worth anything?

[deft trout]

Like I figured it'd get resolved eventually but it's been months now where they just don't even address it.

[warped raft]

keep puting out stuff to sell and dont fix anything like abnormal endings, def not dropping another dime on this game until some server stability problems are addressed or in the fucking least acknowledged

[wild jay]

I just saw a wizard hit for 30 per hit with magic missile, I don't necessarily care about that, but being capable of being invis AND doing that is fucking crazy

[stable echo]

is anyone else really annoying by quest and having to fill the item requirements completely. like having to have 15 leather caps to turn in at once and not like 1 at a time. really anoying to have to fill your stash with an absurd amounts of items, aka the campfire and cap

[granite crown]

where is the damn traps for rangers?

[wild jay]

I think it's caused by other players potentially spamming tons of inputs or something. There's got to be some sort of mechanic because it feels like it works out in their benefit? Maybe like switching weapons really fast or something which causes the server to overload

[rapid vapor]

You have to level up one of the vendors and make them with iron now. Maybe you unlock the ability to buy them in later quests

[strong beacon]

question guys, what stats priority should i be going for as a rogue

like im a little lost in between the differences between
strength
phys power
true phys damage
etc

[main garden]

none you get outclassed by every other class in the game, your only hope is to pick a different class @strong beacon if you want to pvp

[wild jay]

Go to rogue chat, some absolute chads will take care of you there. But rogue is definitely difficult. It's not impossible, but rogue in general is spongy. You only need 15 strength so you can dole out the damage intended. There are also pins. Reach out to yorkazord. Strength affects phys power, phys power affects damage bonuses, and certain types of add damages do different things

[strong beacon]

thanks buddy 🙂

[rapid vapor]

Do you guys think you should get partial points if you die? Likely not enough to still go positive, but just so dying isn't so harsh

[proud ice]

Wonder when all the discussions about the rampant cheating priblem in HR is gonna start.... there's like loads of free cheat scripts and nobody is talking about that..

[wild jay]

Create a ticket and send scripts to the devs, help them. It's impossible for them to work AND keep a track of the cheaters. It's possible some game dev who got laid off spreading scripts lol

[proud ice]

I will, but dude just take a second a google free DAD cheats and look at how fucking many there are. its ridiculous and its because they dont have anything up to prevent it so cheaters are able to write scripts for free and not worry about altering them to combat a anti cheat. HR is ridiculous rn i run into wallers every 2 games in hell, some are subtle. some are blatant, but there's a noticeable increase for sure.

[main garden]

@proud ice dont worry they will do a ban wave after the next wipe 😄

yea tbh you can use the free cheats rn but they will ban you in a month, doesn't matter if you dont mind buying the game again tho

[exotic drift]

something needs to be done about pdr fighters in normal goblin caves, they're basically gods and they think theyre so impressive for playing the most basic class, the starter class xD

[proud ice]

It's just very noticeable especially in wanderer1-pathfinder2. Atleast 1 cheater team every couple games.

[vagrant path]

It's a physical trinket, not an ingame key

[brave storm]

does everyones upvote/downvote system for fame and karmas not work aswell? just dosnt let me spend my karma point to upvote the homies.

[main garden]

@proud ice thats normal, if you want a fair game then you are going to have to play something else

[cinder nest]

if i buy an item/gear from trade channels, does the item's loot state became : handled even if the person who sells it to me loot it from dungeons?

[subtle heart]

How do youbuy more stash tabs?

[brave storm]

the + symbol in your stash its placed around the top left side, and @cinder nest yes it does

[proud ice]

weird take, its not normal. lol. its only happening because they dont have any kind of hedge against script being used in their game. look for yourself there's loads of free cheats. thats not true for alot of games that have solid anti cheats because you have to continue altering your cheat script to fight the anti cheat. this game has nothing and its REALLY showing now that the leaderboard is out with rewards and cool colors there's tons of more incentive to cheat. all good though not really sure im interested in having a discussion with someone as cynical as you seem to be

[subtle heart]

Thank you

[spring veldt]

Yea it becomes handled after trade

[agile elm]

maybe if devs spoke english, it would be more apparent.

that clothing website looks like it was made by a 3 year old, must be some dev's friend or their own website

[main garden]

@proud ice tbh it just shows the incompetency of the devs with releasing such a leaderboard this early in development, mind boggling stuff

I encourage everyone to play a different game, its not fun when the servers are complete trash, theres hackers in all the lobbies that matter, and the new questing system is the most bare bones and most 💩 thing I've seen in any game... I guess it took them months to add the "looted" or "handled" icon to everything? who knows tbh

[proud ice]

You're right, this game is not going in the right direction

[weak umbra]

dont forget about trash ranked system and gear caps that force you to play this trash mode mentioned above

also dont forget about countless bugs that are in the game for months and the only solution for them is lying about fixing something. remember the bug where you coudnt hear footsteps? "yeah in this hotfix we changed footsteps sounds so they are quiterer and harder to hear", they just lied about changing something because they cant fix it

[vagrant path]

no idea, that shit interests me so little that i've never clicked the links

[sonic maple]

go nexon bots go

[proud ice]

lol thats a clear and concise argument 😛 major braincells on this bot here

[weak umbra]

so if someone is pointing out bad things in this game then he is a nexon bot? nice logic bud, go hold some line and let the devs cook

[orchid quartz]

This game is bad!
proceeds to play 8 hours of this game

[main garden]

@weak umbra my hearing is pretty dam good, I can sometimes hear invis rouges if I really try, they did not change the footstep sounds at all imo, @sonic maple you are either a troll or a shill which is it? Lmao

[weak umbra]

if someone really still thinks that this game is in a good state then idk

[proud ice]

wait for new patch honeymoon to end adn itll show

[sterile roost]

Idk about you but I'm having a lot of fun even tho I'm trash tier at pvp

[proud ice]

you run into less cheaters on tarkov lol

[weak umbra]

the first and most important thing that devs need to do is just say what they want for this game. make an announcement and just tell us what do they plan, is it going to be a weird battle royale with stashable loot and ranked que with bs point system or will it be a hardcore extraction looter with pvp and good immersion. i just want to know, if they want a battle royale then fine, i will just quit. but now they are advertising it as a hardcore extraction game and we all know how it really looks. just tell us what this game will be in like a year

[tame moth]

I mean why cant I update my game lol! reinstalled chaf games for the same invalid patch attempt error
I tried a long time ago to email and swap my account to a different client but they refused and now I cant play the game and no one is helping me these supposed "wardens"

[rocky tundra]

Do inferno dogs drop wolf pelts?

[high jewel]

@proud ice thank god for that tbh.. tarkov used to be way worse

[dapper void]

Is anyone else having lag issues after the update?

[rocky tundra]

LOL one iron bar for one lockpick. Cmon now

[lethal frost]

personally i would made it 5 bars for half a lock pick XD

[cyan basalt]

there's so much teaming in goblin caves like wtf

[peak mango]

Do legendary gems show up in HR or only HR inferno?

[lapis veldt]

Barbarian is unplayable now?

[zenith rain]

does anyone know how many ginger bread cookies you need for the quest??

[cyan basalt]

tf do ginger bread cookies do

[zenith rain]

u need em for one of the quests that Nicholas has

[shell arrow]

how do i get more spell memory

[subtle parcel]

devs forgot, that we still cant use gear on normals.
also idk why they wait with magic missle nerf.
like, wake up developers, let us play the game

[wet leaf]

What are the BR aspects you dont like? For me its the overabundance of PvP

[queen palm]

explosion needs to be nerfed shit is way too op

[weary wolf]

dnd feels better than it ever has rn, this is perfect lowkey

[wispy ridge]

rogue is useless without gear. cant even kill naked cleric :( fix rogue pls

[sand surge]

we miss you ranger traps

[exotic drift]

i know rogues are pretty strong if you play them right but if you fuck up you leave yourself in a situation where you have to play very well in close combat. once you get a rogue to lose their invisiblity you have an opening. I just want to be able to PVP and still lockpick stuff and use the invis skilll without needing 3 passives. Cant they just have one invis passive and change the base invis skill to not be so powerful

[jaunty prawn]

lmfao im trying out a dark and darker copy and the whole lobby just died to a hacker

[main garden]

@jaunty prawn guess things could be worse lmfao...

[wet crow]

Genuinely not playing the game again until rogue is unplayable. There isn't a single time in this game where if rogue is even slightly viable he ends up being literally everywhere and dominates at all levels of play

[dusty ibex]

Has anyone see any of the merchants sell grey/white Gloves of Utility?

[brisk mason]

may be a while. these devs cant do shit, they nerfed rogue a while ago, and then buffed him back up and wont rework the class.

Same thing with wizard, constantly not nerfing the class enough and then just buffed it back up to an absurd level.

Pdr is still insane and skill less and you can get 55 percent with grey plate and a shield on fighter.

[keen latch]

can anyone tell me what dexterity actually does

[main raven]

Increases attack speed, primarily. I think you also get a bit of movespeed from it and it also makes Bards play songs faster

[topaz basalt]

im a little confused by how youre supposed to do normal bosses anymore. been trying to learn how to do bosses in normals and getting absolutely shafted bc we cant bring any gear. warlord is super rough for our comp (barb ranger cleric) and mobs are hard to clear on lich even with holy purification. not being able to bring any gear to bring up knowledge or dps makes normal bosses super rough

[shut cedar]

hello, returning player. Played most of the classes (besides bard, cleric) and enjoy them.
Haven't played in a while. how are the classes feeling this wipe? whos very strong, whos struggling?

how are warlocks?

[faint thunder]

did they patch cheesing skeleton knight on top of health shrine in spider room?

[shell flicker]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

Dungeon stalkers? Tuned in on Twitch. First Game i See they all get slain by invisible speed hacker

Looks Like hot trash

[jaunty prawn]

yep. it is. somehow worse than greed is good

[glossy stump]

where do i get traps now haven't seen them after levleing traders

[brave bison]

all health shrines are slippery now... 😦

[remote yarrow]

People dont know how good dark and darker actually is

Looking at the clones that are Like really hot trash getting 200 Player on free playtest on Steam. Where dark and darker Had 50k

[wet leaf]

DaD has a superior future. Devs should hire some top guns from WoW or LoL and launch some big marketing, this game has excessive potential, id pay 5/month np for this. Imagine open world map with 128 players and 3-4 dungeons to descend in, with a nice village to stash loot, recover and meet fellow adventurers.

DaD raids of 7 players teams. PvP focused map/arenas. Some short and very long matches possibilities. So much potential....

[zenith salmon]

I mean it is that simple

[bitter river]

Just an honest review at the current state of the game in case devs would read this.

First of all the game is great, HUGE potential and its one of the best games I know today.
However, even though this game being the best it has a lot of flaws and in my own personal opinion it doesnt seem like the devs knows what they are doing when it comes to balancing the game, there are plenty of things that needs to be balanced and Im sure they are working on it.
Unfortunately for me the game is starting to become unplayable in many ways because of it, some may say skill issue or whatever else they wanna say to be cool on the internet but its not about a skill issue.
Sure the game requires skill, no doubt but some things are just out this world unbalanced and bugged for that matter.
I've stated it before and I will state it again, wizards are broken, the game is ruined entirely for me mainly because of wizards, the amount of utility they have is indescribable, I cannot find words to explain how baffled I am the devs even let it go this far and also to even add a new spell to make them even more annoying to deal with.
Fighters with good gear are invincible, rogues are useless and needs to be reworked, rangers are also broken but at the same time not, they need a rework, the list goes on.

The way dungeons are right now is good, I personally find it very good that normals are common gear only whilst high roller stays free BUT there should be a ruins HR.
Skeleton archers/crossbows needs to be nerfed, the amount of damage they deal is absolutely insane and nightmare ones straight up have aimbot and will 1 shot you as soon as you set your foot in their vicinity, sure as a fighter you can survive but as ranger, rogue, wizard, warlock, bard and whatever you cannot, all it takes is 1 single arrow in the head and you are dead.
It doesnt matter what the team comp is or if you know the strats, its too much while you also have to focus on pvp because people chase you down no matter what.

[exotic drift]

they won't but you can always make your own game way to get devs to read something is make a post on the forums and get lots of upvotes

[sonic maple]

WE NEED GREY CAPES

[exotic drift]

make a YT video bro post the link here if it resonates ppl will like it

[earnest current]

All class got buff so hard , Rogue got another neft why from 36 agi down to 30 agi and this patch down to 25 agi , Quest system like shit because if you play another class you need to do all shit quest again

one more thing if you quick put looted items like wolf fang to stash but inside stash you have handle wolf fang they become 2 wolf fang handle Fuck this quest system , can't buy any shit if you can't do the quest

[fiery vine]

I'm having a bad night. All the MLG pros are on tonight

[light knot]

does anyone know if saza the demigod warlock has any socials?

[subtle heart]

im not gonna lie these quests suck ass, like first i have to almost entirely fill my stash with leather caps and campfires, but then after i kill 75 skeletons for the armoursmith, he then needs 15 cobalt and 10 rubysilver INGOTS. and the ON TOP OF THAT the next quest needs you to get the final hit on lich 15 times. not just kill him 15 times, but if you didn't get that last hit then you don't get a point towards the quest. like???

[main raven]

yeah the quests are still heavily WIP and I'd be shocked if they weren't changed

[weak briar]

which ores are most valuable?

[shy cloud]

are they gonna change this stupid no gear normals back or what

[mint pecan]

anyone know what the best way to do the collectors last quest is?

[main raven]

Just do HR and get juiced

[pallid grove]

Hey guys melt work on ignite if my teammate attack someone?

[dry cove]

Gold ores

[native totem]

anyone bale to craft coin bags yet

[wraith folio]

Why is it EVERY other cvlass has STRENGTH White helmets or Hats yet the RANGERS got changed to RANGER HOOD WITH VIGOR WTF!>?!?!!

[fiery vine]

Which white helmets? For what class?

Gjermundbu has vigor

[deft trout]

Severs are such shit. Lets add aimbot hitreg crossbow mobs to the game with a horrendous rubberbandy netcode. What a genious idea.

[grim marsh]

Hey so I'm pathfinder 3 right now and I don't have the Exclusive Nightmare Skeleton skin and I was wondering if I have to end the season as pathfinder to get the reward?

[tulip dock]

no its based on your highest rank reached in season

[mystic crane]

which class in current meta is the best for hr goblins?

[wraith folio]

try killing the lich 15 times for a quest

[grim marsh]

That wasn't my question at all lmao

[tulip dock]

you will get the reward at end of season

[main raven]

Are you really complaining about a Ranger nerf?

[wide drum]

Hey, been playing common GC solo and loving it

What class is the best in whites and solo or any specific very good builds? Thanks

[hardy mauve]

im still waiting for a training room where i can see what everything i have actually does/hits for on some training dummies...cmon now

[exotic drift]

almost nobody wants to go hr with rogues, really hard to clear mobs without dagger perks, not taking lockpicking feels shitty, the crossbow is ok for pvp but sucks at doing mob damage so better take lots of throwables or sit in the back line the whole time. invis perks are your one-trick pony, and increasing the length of invis takes away from the other passives wanted for a succesful ambush while also taking lockpick.

Is rogue passivse going to get a rework or what?

[wraith folio]

yeah because warlocks can come in with whites with 18 STR

[main raven]

I swear does literally no one run Poison when starting a new Rogue or something

@wraith folio If you're a Ranger and you're losing to a Warlock, thats a skill issue

[exotic drift]

??

[main raven]

I'm gonna take that as a "no"

[exotic drift]

👍 skill issue, work on your communication skills and I'll give you a real answer. Right now you're coming off like a butt.

[main raven]

So let me get this straight; I question why you don't run Poison as a new Rogue to help kill mobs faster, and you respond by saying I'M the one with a skill issue. Got it.

Next time I'll just tell you to pound sand, I suppose.

[candid reef]

Some of the walls in hell/inferno can be clipped through/shot through.

[main garden]

Some of the walls in crypt can be clipped through/shot through.

[exotic drift]

We're not having a "next time" as I'm blocking you and won't be replying to you further

[main raven]

Good for you rofl

[weak briar]

i dont have too much problem with the mobs in hr on my rougue excepts that damn axe skeleton. pvp against geared fighters is rough though

[worthy talon]

have you tried rapier instead of daggers? Just a thought

[candid reef]

Really?

[worthy talon]

Theres a bug report channel, post it in there my friend, include some details for them.

@weak briar with the axe skele, you want to duck and walk underneath them to the right as they swing, you take no damage.

[sonic maple]

no mimic in hardcore caves so no quest

[main raven]

This guy blocked me after two replies I don't think he has a prefrontal cortex

[harsh portal]

Wizard

[inner thistle]

guys, what do you think about royal gems for last treasurer quest

[harsh portal]

Its like getting golden chest from gold hoard

[inner thistle]

yup, in terms of probability to get all 4 gems. Do you think this is then a well designed quest or not ?

[harsh portal]

Well it will like a month to complete

[inner thistle]

it seems like impossible for someone with a job to complete this quest and i dont think this is a good design that quest can be dooable only for a certain category of players

[main raven]

Most of these quests seem nigh-impossible for people with jobs lol

[inner thistle]

tbh, killing 15 lich seems more dooable than 4 royal gems, it's just "farm" when gems are based on loot and VERY HIGH luck

[harsh portal]

U have 3 months quests are hard yes but they are for you so u could get better at the game

[inner thistle]

i dont see why forcing me to loot 1000 times the treasure hoard will make me better ngl

[proud tusk]

auto swing and shoot bug??

[harsh portal]

Oh i forgot to say that devs are stupid asf and they dont understand their own game

[inner thistle]

by calculing with the odds (and maybe i'm wrong with) , you will have to get AT LEAST around 80/100 treasure hoard to get those 4 gems (by praying you got uniques gems, and not 2 ruby or 2 saphire)

[harsh portal]

Yeah they fucked up the game as alaways nothing new, removed mr from items too

[inner thistle]

removed mr, on the patch where wizard are GODLIKE

[harsh portal]

The quest with 15 liches is broken too cause u have 3 bosses that can spawn u have other players and u need to be the person to kill the boss so killing lich 15 times will take 148 hell runs with luck

[inner thistle]

Yeah, there is a difference between quest for Elite Players, and just near impossible quests for anyone with a job

[tardy shuttle]

Agreed dont think anyone has managed to complete it yet

[main garden]

lmao get farming , you don't have a job or socail obligations right? @harsh portal

[harsh portal]

I feel like some quests are made for people like repoze

[rocky tundra]

Remember guys it's still early access and there's gonna be a lot of fine tuning in the future. For example. 1 whole iron bar for 1 lockpick seems ridiculous

[main garden]

I sell 💩 buckets if you need to save additional time every day 😄

[inner thistle]

i feel like quests are there to guide a player during his progession, not unecessary farm that only no life can do

[harsh portal]

Or a chineese

[pearl dust]

are they gonna add a quests tab, so annoying looking through all the merchants

[inner thistle]

yeah, like franciscas craft, they wille tune quests, craft etc too, i'm not afraid, it's just "stupid" that they released this and said : "na that's fine it seems ok" by seeing most of quest, it's like they dont play their own game

[rocky tundra]

It's not stupid at all...people are begging for more content and they have a really small team which they are growing. Stop being the worst kind of consumer

[inner thistle]

Yeah, and i work in IT too, and i know how hard it is sometimes to release functionnalities, debug etc, but i would have prefered for them to delay update, but getting a more meaningful content, than updating because they need to, and having this feeling of not very well designed quests

It makes non sense that some of the second quests are easier than the first one on some NPC for example, when the quest's goal are to follow and guide players progression
I'm not really blaming them, i'm still enjoying so much the game overall, and stats changes etc are very good, but this feature could have a better design overall

[main garden]

stat changes basically nerfed barbarian into oblivion, only reason he is good anymore in high level play is to be a battery for wizard, optimal game design @inner thistle

[exotic drift]

just be happy the devs actually care they were working until hours before the release all night give them a chance you only paid 35 dollars for this game i bet youve bought 70 dollar games, played them only 1 day and were so bad you never took them out again

[harsh portal]

They play, thats why they buffed wizard and removed magic resist cause they play wizard :))

[inner thistle]

Stats changes are healthy for the game, but now some classes need a bit of tune, like barbarian i agree, but it’s more meta/balance wise. Dont forget like 3 patch ago Barb was mega broken and the best class in pvp with cleric

[rare shell]

Fighter wizard cleric op af rn, metacomp, how they want it

[round sentinel]

Umm, Can we still craft the luck rings and neckless? Cuz like the alch dont have quests, he just powders stuff now.

[harsh portal]

Golden stuff gives luck

[inner thistle]

working until hours before release isnt a good choice, and yes it shows us how they are involved, but it's not very "professionnal". One of the first thing you learn in IT is never release an update before night or before a week-end because there will always some bug that you didnt found, and because of night or week end, you will take more time to correct it. Some it applies to last minute dev/features too. It causes some of the biggest bugs you can have in videos games (like dupe bug 😉)

[round sentinel]

OH... oh no. I have bar afied all my ore cuz, that is what i figured was needed. And i cant wear plate armor.

[steel wraith]

Have devs specified if the rewards for ranks are bound to the character that achieves the rank, ie. if I reach Pathfinder on my Warlock at the end of the season will I receive the skele skin to my account, usable for all classes, or will only my Warlock have access to it? Asking since rank is character based afaik.

[rare shell]

You WILL play metacomp, and you WILL like it

[main garden]

@inner thistle I guess but who cares, I play wizard now so I never lose a 1v1 😄

[harsh portal]

golden armor gives 1.5% mr and -10 mr at the same time XDDD

[inner thistle]

Have fun to play meta then i guess ahah

[rapid vapor]

trying to get to hr gc pathfinder and literally repoze in my lobby. alright iron mace

[inner thistle]

I supposed that skin are account rewards (like all other skins), but some rewards like title or anything are characters bound

[exotic drift]

do you have a portfolio ? You seem very confident, I suppose you wouldn't mind sharing your github here

[harsh portal]

They should add magic resistance potion

[final drift]

who can you vendor ore to? have 1 cobalt, 2 copper left overs..

[inner thistle]

Yeah, if you really interested, but you seem more to attacking me personally.
Also it's not on GitHub because i'm actually working in "WinDev" so it has his proper Sources Manager called GDS (+ some projects are confidential 😉)

[main garden]

@inner thistle problem is they always screw something up, they always buff one class into absolute godhood its hilarious...

[deft sonnet]

Is it time to debate on which class has ascended this patch

[exotic drift]

Yeah, if you really interested, but

stopped reading here and blocked, goofy goobers in chat tonight

[orchid quartz]

flavor of the patch class complaint right now is fighter second close is wizards and ofcourse good ol ranger complaints still there

[deft sonnet]

No way ive been hearing the only wizard complaint as just nerf explosion, and then the usual complaints.

Ive seen a lot of fighter ahouldnt have crossbow ones though yeah

[exotic drift]

fighter crossbow should require all weapons mastery plain and simple

[inner thistle]

Balance changes seems to be a problem on all games (like LoL, etc, there is almost always some overpowered champions or items). There will almost always be a "meta" and it's fine for a game like this i guess ? Having a changing meta is healthy to have a refreshing wind on hotfix i suppose. I prefer to have sometimes ranger broken, other buffball broken, and right after wizard broken, than only one teamcomp broken for month or years straight

[harsh portal]

No

[inner thistle]

You seem to be a funny guy ngl

[orchid quartz]

surprisingly whenever I watch this chat I rarely see explosion complaints but I did see some magic missile complaints and somehow Cleric's smite got some action at some point too

[mild sinew]

thought they would fix the Karma System with last Hotfix, hopefully they're aware that it does not work rn

[rare shell]

I don’t even care about how op wizard is cuz they are easily killed if u get close which is balanced imo. I just think it’s stupid how Tanky a fighter is with great gear, and how they nerfed other great classes to play like Barb and rogue. Barb was stupid strong but now it seems weak as hell. And the rogue nerfs were literally just to the fun gameplay aspects of the class. I don’t understand it. Also BoC is way too overpowered suddenly

[prisma cape]

imagine having brain rot and thinking wizards take skill

[rare shell]

IMO they should nerf fighter dealt damage immensely, give them decent magic resistance, so they’re just tanks. And make slayer do more dmg but be a bit more weak. Make rogue enjoyable again. Give barbarian some combat abilities besides left click. A fighter shouldn’t take 9 hits from a rogue and kill a rogue in 2 hits, they should take 9 hits and kill a rogue in like 6 hits

[zinc tiger]

Most smart fighter/barb player

[inner thistle]

They should more polarize figther, to have a real choice between dealing huge damage, or tanking a lot

[rare shell]

Exactly what I’m saying bro, damage and protection but no mag protection makes no sense to me. It’s either tank everything do little dmg, or do high dmg and tank nothing

[halcyon pine]

What is the best class for solo?

[zinc tiger]

Barbarían and warlocks have perks for magic resistance. They should be the real magic damage tankers

[inner thistle]

ngl good wizard destroys us so hard, but it's just meta and matchup, like all games. We cannot lose vs any rogue if we play well, it's not stupid that a wizard can win vs any figther if he plays well

[storm slate]

3K for an additional stash.... who do you think I am Jeff Bezos? If you dont want people buying gold how about have some idea on the average players gold intake. jeeeeeeesus

[rare shell]

Yeah it’s a weird idea of balance. One class should t be extremely weak to one other specific class but not able to do anything in return. Classes should have traits that are good for team comps and solos, not just meta crap

[inner thistle]

I think one of the problem rn, is the lack of magic counter. We just dont have some magic resistance armor or anything, no good MR options overall.

[halcyon pine]

It's really not that much. You just have to have that DBCMM (Dollar Bill Cash Money Mentality).

[zinc tiger]

Yep. But wizards need a lot of skill too, probably in the fighter vs wiz matchup, fighters wins 60% because of crossbow and the lack of skill

[earnest ginkgo]

bro literally play 10 games

[halcyon pine]

That's right delete it.

[zinc tiger]

Buy gold ingots or keys bro. That way u don’t lose the value of your money

[inner thistle]

ohh yeah, i agree that Wizard is a high skill ceiling class, but with one of the most grateful skill/reward class. When i got destroyed by a wizard i'm "happy" because it almost always mean that he was better and that i got outplayed, especially in the figther/wizard matchup, that means he got a good kiting etc etc

[earnest ginkgo]

just headshot them with an awp its 14 gold in the woodsman

[inner thistle]

crossbow is something lmao, each time i play with it my rust skills are back :p

[rare shell]

Ah yes good kiting, 15m blast radius fireball to slow motion fighter 3 times

[zinc tiger]

? Fireball it’s slow asf and have 1 m blast. If u get hit u are bad that’s it. And do the same damage of crossbow and it’s limited to 4 shots lol

[harsh fulcrum]

Remove crossbows from fighter 😡

[earnest ginkgo]

fireball aint even a problem if you arent just running in a straight line towards the wizard the new explosion tho that shit slaps

[warm owl]

nerf lightning strike, way to high of dmg with spell casting speed buff with knowledge a wizard can literally put 3 out in like 2 seconds

[rare shell]

They fireball me 5 feet infront of them lol, it’ll hit like 5m to each side. Especially if they slow you. I’m not complaining tho I shit on most wizards as fighter

[inner thistle]

The only problem on wizard right now in my opinion is MM, they should be 75% or something, 100% is tooooo much

[formal coral]

just 1 charging of magic missile destroy everything

[warm owl]

lightning strike hits my geared characters for over half hp. 2 and i die and they cast another one in half a second with high knowledge.

[rare shell]

Wizard is fine tbh, makes for less fighter vs fighter in solos, or rogue vs rogue. Funny af when they kill themselves fireballing you too lmfao

[earnest ginkgo]

yeah i don't know what they were smoking when buffing it back to %100 but they must have been smoking the good stuff surely itll go back in the next patch

[formal coral]

I also gave up the fighter class and am playing warlock

[earnest ginkgo]

why tho if you dont mind me asking (cus if you are solo, fighter is one of the strongest)

[formal coral]

warlock possible longsword parrying that`s it lmao

[earnest ginkgo]

ah xd makes sense

[terse ridge]

guys is there silver ore i can mine or i can get silver ingots only out of coins?

[inner thistle]

Figther is still in a good spot right now for solo, in team this is more complicated because more wizard but that's all

[mortal valley]

I hate losing AP just because some really geared guy in HR decided to zone me really hard and I am not a fighter :\

The rogue starting daggers are a game design crime.

[hot steppe]

yeah it is a bit sad how rapier is just the best by far

[inner thistle]

yeah, sad that the best combo is rapier/shortsword to pve/pvp on a dagger designed class

[mortal obsidian]

does lantern still work as a second weapon for slayer?

[inner thistle]

yessir

[hot steppe]

they should give all daggers base armour pen

[subtle heart]

can u bash the rangers already ? still too strong, dont you see ?

[lofty sundial]

its actually mad hard to find people to play with when ur new cuz everyone wants experienced players lmao

[wicked echo]

i almost got one shot by magic missile today

[orchid quartz]

cool story bro 👍

[gilded minnow]

do people not think barb is insanely op still

[inner thistle]

barb is better than a figther in frontlane because of iron will, high base hp and bonus hp not getting affected by healing reduction, but not op

[plush apex]

insanely op? oof

[gilded minnow]

do you not think its insane still? not a single melee class has a chance against it you win if you have range and space to kite thats it

[exotic drift]

hey guys im back today to start playing plate fighter in all whites in goblin caves, wish me luck killing some victims!

[fallow mica]

Who can i sell iron to?

[short sparrow]

Craft ingots at armorer / weaponsmith

[gaunt imp]

is the staff the same casting speed as the book

[gilded minnow]

no

[orchid quartz]

the big issue I have with Barb is mainly the way felling axes work
I think it's a flawed weapon design but everything else seems fair

[exotic drift]

i thought my idea was clever but there's a bunch of mages suicide magic missling in goblin caves now due to the fighter overload. i was too late

wow playing a fighter is kinda boring nvm i dont see why people enjoy the meta fighter builds and ranger so much i am falling asleep

[mortal obsidian]

its crazy what you can get for 50g these days

[fallow mica]

Game is so much fun now that you have Winnie Hut Jr. and the Salty Spitoon

[exotic drift]

felt good, got my first high roller kill using the hand crossbow perk

[gentle merlin]

Ok how much armor pen

[ionic lily]

is anyone else only geting warlord

[exotic drift]

i went back on rogue, my idea to play fighter in goblin caves didnt work, theres now a crew of wizards hellbent on crushing them

[tacit iris]

15%, so that it makes 0 difference, but looks better, causr daggers are usable with the mastery perk

[exotic drift]

this wipe is amazing , you want to know the best part of it?

the easy purples and inflated gold makes this so much less profitable for the money farmers. most of their workers probably alreaady went back to runescape and WoW grinding

[boreal ledge]

Na theyre on oceanic right now, queue up hr goblin caves

[exotic drift]

yeah I only see it valid to play on US servers, EU, and certain times of the day Brazil is good. The rest are where all the farmers are. When they start leaking over is when it sucks.,

[subtle heart]

can u nerf rangers at least ONCE already ?? just ONCE ffs

[mortal obsidian]

im fine as fighter, no coalition or anything. ive stacked up 136 hp, an epic falchion with extra hp i got for 50 GOLD so cheap, and i do over 100 damage per hit. i just got more damage on my lantern, i havent tested it, but before i had 108, 113, 118, bit faster than usual. slayer

[vapid arch]

the rock paper scissors gc meta

[mortal obsidian]

111, 116, 121. its beautiful

[exotic drift]

with a goated rapier and ambush we can still put up a fight., leave us rogues alone when our invis is down 😦

actually no, chase us so we can use hand crossbow and knives at you to whittle you down

[rapid vapor]

I had someone chase me into the skeleton pit I cleared earlier, turns out trapping yourself with a rogue who has 15 knives is a bad idea

[mortal obsidian]

i one shot you 0_0

[exotic drift]

i-I'm gonna bring more knives next run

[exotic drift]

ok im up to 111% movement speed, got some extra knives and bringing a protect potion for my first fight.

[lofty slate]

The trade market is dead or is just me? Just trying to sell two purple weapons ( one horsemen and one Hatchet) for 50 g both and no one wanted it , it was better to sell it to merchant, like too many purple in the game right now?

[twin dew]

yo am i just shit or is it insanely hard to get out of wanderer?

[exotic drift]

too many purple but also look how hard its hitting the gold sales, cutting into their profits, if this continues on a lot of them will go over to more proftiable games

[lofty slate]

True but still imposible to sell an item and it hurt to sell purple for 25 g and fliping is now dead i guess

[fickle veldt]

Many items + gold is needed for stashes so trade is a bit dead for now.

[zinc tiger]

No barb uses that weapons. Also if u have 2 purples don’t try to sell them for 50g. It’s better to just vendor it, you gain more gold

[vapid arch]

barbs use horseman but not hatchet

[valid storm]

At what rank do you need to start paying for HR

[rotund pawn]

It’s always free

[muted crow]

@glad thunder SMITE IS HITTING ENTIRELY TOO HARD IT EITHER NEEDS TO HIT FOR MUCH LESS OR BE CHANGED TO A ONE TIME ATTACK. THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OUT DAMAGE 90 DAMAGE PER SWING AND GET TO SWING WITH SMITE TWO OR THREE TIMES, IT'S OBVIOUSLY BUSTED AND THE FACT YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY CHANGED IT IS NEGLIGENT GIVEN YOU MADE A WEAK ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS CLERIC.

[merry stag]

From acolyte and on you start at -50 points for entry ( if this is your actual question )
Otherwise high roller is free currently

[valid storm]

Yes that was my actual question . Thank you very much

[cold spire]

man caps lock everytime he dies to something and requests its deletion or nerf

[lofty slate]

That what i did 40 g for both.. Better than 35 g in trade

[remote yarrow]

Smite with Mace Hits for 10 extra dmg unless you build for Magic damage/power.

You might be ignoring the fact that you still get the Mace dmg

[zinc tiger]

It’s does 12 with base will. And 17 on headshot

[remote yarrow]

No Headshot multi on smite. Sadly

[zinc tiger]

Sad

[remote yarrow]

So we are far away from 90 or whatever number He was yelling. Major dmg Part is still the weapon hitting your face. Like 55dmg from Mace + 12 magic

[left pecan]

hmm i’m in wanderer too i’ve also died quite a few times but i’ve been careless and not really taking it seriously and i feel like if i had id be pathfinder already i think you just need to bring ina. decent kit try and make friends if possible and if you can’t make friends just kill or try your best to survive if you can tell you’re up against some bis

[dense hamlet]

I reallly really want to be a good warlock. can someone point me in the right direction for a build or somethin?

[dry nebula]

Perks: dark reflection, soul collector, vampirism, antimagic/malice
Skills: blow of corruption, spell memory
Spells: hydra, life drain, curse of pain, flamewalker, eldritch shield/bolt of darkness
Build for knowledge, additional magic damage, move speed. Use a staff

[dense hamlet]

thank you!

[broken cove]

Do we know how much AP you get for every action yet?

[inner thistle]

@wraith mantle Just, we got the probability/stats given by the wiki (wrong or right, we dont know)
We can then calculate the probability to get one of these unique gemstones for a player, for a treasure hoard (10 times, 4 treasures roll, so 40 "try" for an hoard and an unique player)
We can then calculate how many time a player have to loot a treasure hoard etc etc

We come to the point that, maybe you ll need over 100 or 150 treasure hoard to get, in the fact where you SOLO LOOT these tresure hoard, not split among your team members

[wraith mantle]

stop using the wiki data, lmao

[inner thistle]

Then which data do i use ? I dont want to create any number from my magician hat bro ^^

[wraith mantle]

making shit up is as usefull as making calculations over wrong or outdated data

[silk mango]

Can we end this cringe "Whites and below only" for normals stuff already? It's either go in with whites and get sub par loot, or roll HR with greens and get face stomped by full purples. Congrats IM. YOu're doing so well.

[solemn grove]

They should add skin color into the game, I just want to put my irl there in the game

[modest canyon]

So many angsty, sarcastic man children in this chat that take this game way too seriously

[inner thistle]

Yeah, but my point was to explain than this quest was not "probably" "doable" with a restricted amount of hour, and i didnt questioned the fact that you can "POSSIBLY" finish the quest, that's all.
Yeah the gemstone are lootable, and i hope that wiki numbers are wrong, or far from reality, but if we use the ONLY DATA we got, this is what it is

[proud ice]

This game is going to fail if they don’t fix the cheating problem. Give it like another week and it’ll be a major topic. There’s an enormous amount of wallhackers in the higher ranks of HR leaderboards. The here’s no real anti cheat for this game but it has a ranked leaderboard? Wtf?

There are atleast 5 different major cheat providers that are providing a version of FREE ESP for players. So free cheats and a new leaderboard. Great recipe for the competitive integrity of the game well done Ironmace

[warped raft]

Thank God they extended the coffee! I don't know what I would have done if it ended abnormally ! ...

[spare elbow]

Who cares lots of cheaters will get banned, cheaters cant be stopped dawg only fought.

[warped raft]

I don't think they are fighting them anymore. They slowly took down the reporting links and reporting someone in game stopped doing anything like 2 weeks ago.

[frosty pewter]

entry fee being higher on crypts is hella stupid

[naive seal]

just rubberband rubberband rubberband to death bro

[eager spire]

Did they reintroduce the buy in for hr?

[frosty pewter]

nah it cost adventure points. for me its 400 ap. the same rank in golbin caves is 100 ap

[merry stag]

Potential for a great song there buddy

[dreamy silo]

this wipe was ass, hope next one comes with some major changes in direction. only having whites allowed in normal games is killing it for me and my crew atleast. I thought having up to blues was the best. I wonder why they changed that 🤔

[proud ice]

They can make it maybe just a little hard for people to write cheat scripts for their game, like an anti cheat lmao….

[naive seal]

whats server iP for US East & US West so I can ping plot it

[proud ice]

I mean bruh

[limber verge]

go to highroller...

[thorny reef]

To help normalize high roller

[paper girder]

does anyone know if magical power effects rogues posion weapon ?

[wraith mantle]

do a tracert instead of asking for IPs, if you dont know how to do basic things like that you wont get any useful data doing a ping

[naive seal]

Im just going to ping it to see if I have packet loss to the ip

[spare elbow]

The game has anticheat dawg what you on about. Youre so desperate to be high leaderboard or what? I barely see cheaters in this game at all

[limber verge]

people will exagerate and use hyperbole and make up anything they need to further their own narrative.

[proud ice]

Which is what? I merely stated that there are free cheats for this game and there’s an increase in cheaters because of the leaderboard changes. I like the cool statement though although it meant nothing

[broken wadi]

hey guys, noob question about the campfire quest for woodsman - i have 15 campfires, some i bought from him, do they not count toward the quest completion?

[spare elbow]

Go to #discord-help the cheater report link is right there. They only removed the separate teaming report because they were getting FLOODED with reports of that.

[proud ice]

This game does not have a real anti cheat lmao not sure where you got that from but you’re wrong. There’s no real anti cheat ya fool all of the cheats are undetected and free lmao. That’s a dumpster fire waiting to be discovered. Like I said, give it another week and there will be more people talking about it, i made pathfinder 2 and cheaters all over

[dreamy silo]

they need to be found in the dungeon, check the status on ur campires. They need to be "Looted"

[chilly socket]

FIX THE DAMN LAG

[spare elbow]

Sorry but how do you know their anticheat is ineffective? Ive heard one guy say he reported over 50 people and almost all of them got bans so maybe youre right but that doesnt say how many already got banned by the anticheat

[proud ice]

Because the cheats are free…. That means a cheater wrote a script, left it, and doesn’t need to alter it because the anti cheat won’t detect it because there isn’t one…?

[zenith gull]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/1Gk11HsLHw3wl8/d1337KlMkExq?invite=cr-MSxwYm4sMjA0MDc4MDY0LA hacks or no?

[spare elbow]

Or some cheat websites made it free as a sort of “advertising” to get people in the door and buy better cheats. Common marketing tactic. Give them the shitty free version but you have to upgrade for better

[proud ice]

Just google free dark and darker cheats you’ll see there’s hella scripts that have been written by different people, companies, modders, etc. it’s not hard to write cheat scripts. But for this game especially we are gonna see it

[spare elbow]

Hard to say, they probably saw you thru the doorway or heard you fiddle with that torch, and since they saw a closed door and dint hear it open or close on that side they know youre still in the room, since they hear no footsteps they know you didnt go far

Couldve been lucky guess but looks sus also

[boreal wharf]

Is there a way to mute coffee advertisements on discord without muting important announcements?

[zinc lodge]

Is anyone else experiencing a quest resetting and not counting kills?

[chilly socket]

NO BUT IM RUBBERBANDING ALL DAY

[proud ice]

Very well could be, notice how he walks in looking straight and then once he’s close enough he immediately looks directly at you and hits you that was his attempt at appearing legit. I would call ESP based on what I’ve seen in the clip but that doesn’t account for anything before you started recording. The most blatant wallhackers I ran into was a warlock and a wizard duo doing chain lightning off hydra, complete unapologetic cheaters

[neat quarry]

Fuck me do you need all 15 leather caps at once to complete the quest?!

[chilly nebula]

I think itd break the game if clerics realized there flash ability could 3 shot ppl

[inner thistle]

y

[silk mango]

nobody tell him about the campfires

[stray prism]

Definitely hacks, report that shit lol

[inland birch]

fighter movementspeed gain from spell needs to be halfe

[pliant harbor]

How much are keys worth?

[honest bolt]

1250g

[chilly socket]

yep my tailor quest not working

[wild jay]

He might've seen your after wisp, if you look at someone stealth there's an after wisp that appears but y'know always report

[pliant harbor]

Thx

[desert maple]

So can someone tell me what server has least amount of chinese, cant handle these premade buddy buddy lobbies

[zenith gull]

nah the wisp is like 1sec

[honest bolt]

I don't have issues in us west

[shell flicker]

Like 30more hours and we back in the dungeon boys, left on wipe day but the patch seems hella dope and finna time to get some quests done 👌🏽

[snow inlet]

should i turn my silver coins into bars or dust?

[proud ice]

But if that’s the case why didn’t he go straight for the wisp? He instead walked to the center while side strafing towards him and then all of the sudden turns and sticks him out of stealth. Weird gameplay if you ask me, it appears as if he’s trying to hide that he knows he’s there

[fringe hemlock]

Game lag when i fight, anything to do about it?

[ornate lava]

Good luck chief. Its a grind

[foggy rock]

spawning in the same room in highroller, amazing, chefs kiss

[limber verge]

You just are not giving people enough information here. You spawned in the same room as another team or you spawned in the same room game after game? If the former, post a clip.

[wild jay]

Mental play, pretended he didn't see and then looked away but moved closer and then looked when he striked. But still, report it. Even if you're not sure, report it

[robust mica]

Skill issue

[zenith gull]

old ahh nika

[versed lance]

So what are wizards taking these days since Meditation isn't really needed anymore?

[teal vault]

the Server stuttering has gotten me hit on several occasion, and now outright killed due to glitch back into troll melee, this shit is so frustrating

[twin magnet]

Intense focus for goblin caves, 10 spells for crypts

[dry nebula]

10 spells

[versed lance]

Thanks lads

[limber verge]

yeah this has happened to me a couple of times recently, it does blow.

[subtle heart]

If explosion spell goes off on someone else who is next to you and it kills you they don't take damage from it

[warped orchid]

Ironmace legalized nuclear bombs for Wizards

[shell flicker]

Thanks bro, I gotta start monday again so I got a long weekend to get my grind on!

[limber atlas]

isnt it crazy how its supposed to be a hardcore experience yet every mob still glitches the fuck out on occasion, and random map bugs like elevator not working, etc

[limber verge]

It's ea, if you encounter a bug report it.

[teal vault]

it's annoying because it was HR and i lost a set that was about 2 keys

[subtle heart]

Hr for me is nothing but rangers and wizards atm

[limber atlas]

where? i dont see a channel or anywhere to do that. another bug ive found is if u are holding a spell cast while the pregame part ends, you will start the game down that spell, even though u never casted it. its consistent too, happens every time

[robust mica]

Huh

[midnight dirge]

One big change that would make this game better is get rid of trade all together. Players will be forced to run mid tier gear to try to find perfect sets.

[limber verge]

no, they arent getting rid of trade. That is a pipe dream.

[limber atlas]

it would make the game more balanced, though youre right, they wont. literally just because people would cry so much about it

[serene mesa]

They already did it once with the <15 lvl zero trade lobbies

[wild jay]

Yeah and the people with perfect sets have even less competition

[limber atlas]

how r u obtaining a perfect set unless youve earned it yourself though? at that point its deserved if youve got it and kept it enough to use it

[limber verge]

oh I didnt realize that during that time they also removed trade.

[serene mesa]

They had entire lobbies of people who had 0 access to trade that’s effectively removing trade

[wild jay]

I've died to something worse than that, and I'm not even complaining as much as you. Just submit a report and move on.

There's ways around everything. There's literally a collectors discord, they will find a way around it. They'll queue snipe lobbies and drop each other gear or put the gear in a chest or something. The game devs would have to go really far out of their way to prevent it. Would have to eliminate depositing gear into any subspace or dropping on floor and those items would immediately have to disappear. If not, people will just drop trade items. And imagine you actually drop something and it's just gone forever lol. so essentially drop traders will become the meta in a solo self found

[limber atlas]

so since theres ways around everything lets just make it easy to abuse then right? wrong. the harder you make it, the less ppl will abuse it over all. yea sure the high end players will always abuse anything they can but thats literally not a reason to do something about it... thats completely illogical

[limber verge]

was trade removed from the game?

[late bolt]

@wild jay im kinda sad this wipe and your logics valid. As a solo in High roller crypts, before even high roller existed i grew up in them there crypts I tell ya what. I cant even climb the ladder no matter how hard I try: I dont get enough adventure points because of the tax

[wild jay]

Okay so then what would be the major difference between those lobbies and these lobbies? You're saying it's illogical, but explain to me what the difference is if people who find a way to trade anyways are still dominating? It's the same scenario as now, except now it's an even smaller pool of people who can access trade. First, I'd be willing to try it, but we would need a huge player increase because that is a perma split. So there's a few hurdles that need to be jumped before hitting that point

[limber atlas]

that's like saying ppl are gonna commit crimes so lets ease up the laws lol what

[thorn rune]

They said they’re going to add an auction house to make trading easier so idk why talk about a trade chat

[wild jay]

Your method is saying "hey let's concentrate all the wealth on an even smaller group of people and give them less competition" I think that's a more accurate portrayal.

[late bolt]

Are they going to have any solution to the leaderboard stats being inflated?

[limber atlas]

Getting rid of the Trading Guild all together. Who cares about trading done in game honestly. by going into a lobby to trade you are still risking death so theres still a risk factor, balancing it out.

[thorn rune]

They are adding an auction house stop talking about trading and stuff. Lots of people still get really good gear as drops, trade chats are dead anyways

[wild jay]

That's not even the discussion. Talking about solo self found

[warm rune]

I still don't get why 2 tanky classes in the game get the only movement speed buffs it doesn't make any sense

[late bolt]

👍

[thorn rune]

You guys have very literally been talking about removing trade chat but alright

[wild jay]

Bruh, I literally haven't lol just read

[vestal silo]

What speed buffs?

[subtle heart]

you stupid or something?

[thorn rune]

Look what you replied to. I’m in agreement with you that trading isn’t a problem but I’m confused on where I missed the topic of the convo, one guy wants trade gone and you’re saying how the people who have good sets don’t really use trade to begin with which I agree with

[zealous olive]

is gold ore still only found in the ruins?

[teal vault]

think there's some in crypts now

[arctic egret]

Does anyone know what it takes to craft divine weapons trying to see if its worth it or not

[zealous olive]

Thanks 2B

[dawn spear]

is linux supported?

[warm rune]

fighter sprint and barb rage If they get close you literally can't out run them

[limpid geyser]

the PVE is the reason this game will be dead within aa year

[livid quarry]

been a while since i stoped playing, how is the meta right now

[serene mesa]

Yes, for characters under level 15. But now characters under level 15 interact with players who have access to trade and so trade is back in the game for them.

[wild jay]

It's actually starting to move but fighter still strong however some strong competitors are on the rise (wizard magic missile). Please take away wiz invis

[midnight dirge]

there would be only very few people with perfect sets. Currently its 50% perfect set and 50% scrubs. Id rather see the half way point. Poeple would also have to get of meta gameplay and get creative with what gear they got. trust me trade is not the way, but a huge change for sure

[limber verge]

so just play normals if you dont like trade little goof

[vestal silo]

I thought you meant that they buffed their stats. I didnt realize you were talking about their skills. I would say if the melee classes didnt have speed skills, they would have 0 opportunity to ever punish misposition by the ranged classes and would constantly be kited.

[midnight dirge]

agree!

removing trade will also make perfect sets players very nervous about wearing that gear, instead of O well ill sit in trade for another hour and get the perfect set again

[dusky sigil]

the devs already said they either keep trade or an auction house so its not going away

[gloomy badger]

How do you turn in quest items (leather hats, campfires, etc) do you need all 15 in your stash? And what are gingerbread cookies for?

[midnight dirge]

bro I know what the devs said, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be better to remove trade. Also devs have said and made a lot of decisions they later figured out needed to be changed.

[vapid rampart]

whats better? physical power or true physical damage?

[ancient gust]

How can I report a cheat? Very angry!!

[proud ice]

Submit clip to their @cerulean delta

You’re going to see way more hackers these days there’s tons of free cheat scripts

[limber verge]

you're being pedantic

[vestal silo]

true physical damage is a flat amount. Power is scaling damage that increases your damage by a %.

[vapid rampart]

ty for explanation. so would +5 physical power equate to 5% ? is that a decent amount ?

[cold cipher]

What kind of actual airhead made axes not buyable and then made magic missile instantly kill anyone.

[remote yarrow]

True physical also has No scaling at all. No Power No Headshot. No reduction. 1 is 1

@vapid rampart

Stats are mostly non linear. At the start phys Power is Like 4% and in the end 0.5%

[gloomy badger]

facts wizards are annoying af, also how do i turn in quest items

[vestal silo]

Power is better on weapons that deal alot of damage in a single instance, like falchions, halberds, 2h axes etc. Added flat damage are better with attacks that are low damage and high frequency, like a dagger, survival bow, arming sword etc.

[proud ice]

Lmao let’s buff wizard by giving them a Semtex spell and buffing their magic missiles, to balance we will take 1 fireball

[viral smelt]

is anyone else having an issue with their rank going back to Apprentice 3? this is the 3rd time it has happened. I have been Wanderer 3, Apprentice 1, Apprentice 1 when I've been reset to Apprentice 3

[remote yarrow]

You collect all and hand in

@ancient gust thats worthless

[ancient gust]

I don't have a video, I just got killed, only a screenshot of their ID Open the ranks and arrogant ID:QEMM , 0o0QaQ , OnOQwQ

[vast bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-talking-gif-18386311432989714002

[proud ice]

Yeah not enough probably man, I have a full 7 minute video of me spectating a team using walls in HR Inferno/crypts, literally the worst players I’ve ever seen, the wizard had to stop running to change his spells

[serene mesa]

THATS IT IM A SLAYER FIGHTER MAIN FROM NOW ON I TRIED MY BEST BUT I JUST SUCK

I changed my flair I am officially one with the hive mind

[median tartan]

Hello, right now i am getting the message "Failed to connect to Server" when trying to start the game. Does anyone have a similar issue?

[fluid lion]

Should try it with long sword perk is broke so takeing the long sword off and puting it back of you still get the speed and it funny to kill other like that

[elder grove]

Anyone know where/how to make lockpicks and such from iron?

[vapid arch]

do quests

[fluid lion]

You have to unlock it in the quest

[smoky meadow]

How long does Rogue "Hide" last? It used to say in the tooltip

[limber badge]

With his horrible inherent magical abilities it's not very long, less than I think the default 20 seconds

[smoky meadow]

Rogue buff duration for Hide used to be -30% and now its -11%, This makes it easier to use hide mastery for the full 40.

[limber badge]

I don't normally pick hide mastery because there's more useful perks, and hiding for his default time is typically long enough if you play your cards right

[plucky epoch]

have we been told anything about being able to play ruins geared again? please and thank you

[limber badge]

HR is planned I believe but no actual date as for when it is coming

[plucky epoch]

so frustrating to have my whole game experience destroyed to the point where i dont feel progress... i have always been a ruins player. i dont like gc especially hr cause i find the mobs annoying and the map cramped... not a fan of 3s either! such a shame i feel like this patch has been made unplayable for me since there is only so much common gear ruins i can take before boredom

[limber badge]

I am sorry to hear that, I personally am not big into the ruins but can see the appeal for some. Eventually, it sounds like they want to offer 1/2/3 queues for crypts and ruins, as well as HR ruins. I know it's kinda far away but at least that's something to look forward to lol. Ruins in general has been shafted a lot lately with these changes.

[chrome fog]

how is that lol gold is worth bank again

[limber badge]

Well briefly there you couldn't even bring a pickaxe to ruins, before you couldn't and still can't bring pouches nor gear above commons. Duos with good gear run trios or don't run at all.

[thorn rune]

Yeah that sounds bad. This update has been amazing I feel with the hr changes however ruins needs hr quick! I’ve been playing crypt hr with just my duo and I recently and it’s been fun

[spare elbow]

Unfortunately this game was originally 3s only and theyve lazily slapped solo and duo modes in, so they will probably continue to be neglected relative to 3s for awhile probably

[chrome fog]

i think ruins is very good atm for casuals, only shit gear and tons of money to be made, along with a ton of pvp. cant really see a downside. make bank in ruins, buy set, go HR

[dusky sigil]

bro same i hate gc too and as a solo player i prefer to run ruins over crypts but with this change its just boring... i thought they would revert it after 3 days but nope who knows

[plucky epoch]

stuck in a cycle of unplayability rn

[vapid oyster]

we just need HR ruins so we can actually play when our 3rd isn't on

[velvet ravine]

your entire discord history is you just dying to mobs and raging tf out, git gud lol

[plucky epoch]

its understandable for hr gc i think tbf, honestly terrible the other dungeons mobs easy af tho

[prime ore]

is it worth going to inferno on LR or is crypt HR better assuming you dont go to hell

[weak umbra]

everything is worth, you can get a decent set for like 300-400 gold

[vestal silo]

a warlock poked my leg with boc longsword, 80 damage 😄

[vapid oyster]

boc only adds 15 dmg and leg hits take 60% dmg

[rare shell]

bro why does 3 different teams chase me as a solo rogue in hr crypts

[vestal silo]

Then i dont know how that could happen. Wasnt a parry either. Was just a attack 1

[weak umbra]

they need to get that 5ap for a kill

[rare shell]

there needs to be some sorta entry fee, having three npc squads chase a solo rogue to the point where they kill themselves just so the ycan kill me is not solid gameplay lol

[deft sonnet]

Ngl pickpocket got people acting funny around rogues

[fathom vapor]

Anyone know the value of gold ingots as of today cause I've been paying 500 per ingots and id like to keep it that way lmao

[spare elbow]

Im more worried about stabbed in back of head than pickpocket

[rare shell]

thers gotta be like a minimum gearscore or something, if theres no entry fee, people in whites chasing u into places where u all die cuz theyre new and npcs is not fun in hr lol

[weak umbra]

yeah who would guess that it would happen every game i see people dying to traps or skeleton footmans, or missing every buff on a cleric. they are playing like this and still climbing ranks because you can just camp and loot chests, its just luck

[deft sonnet]

That sounds like a temporary problem chris

[dim escarp]

i lost all of my Rank progress in one night how. I only lost one game i was at wanderer 1 and then i wake up and im neophyte 3 wtf

[spare elbow]

Are you sure you didnt switch character? Each character has a different rank progression

[rare shell]

also ironmace please let rogues wear straw hats, I want the drip

[vestal silo]

i want santa hats

[dim escarp]

ive only used my fighter for this rank wipe like i get losing you lose rank buy i got was just about to get path finder lost a couple games got to the basiclly the beginning of Wanderer 1 and now im neophyte

[noble zodiac]

logged in today, game is unplayable due to stuttering.... anyone else?

[hushed carbon]

This doesn't sound right, you'd have to lose 10 games to rank down in wanderer

[dim escarp]

yeah idk i just want to get that skin but idk if i can i put a good amount of time in to just get to wanderer 1 and now i just think i might have to take the fat L and not get the skin

[hushed carbon]

To rank down from wanderer to neophyte you'd have to lose 30+ games in a row...

[main garden]

@dim escarp you have 90 days, roughly 3 wipes to achieve it, Ill probs try again once they deal with the rampant hackers and fix the trash servers

[limber verge]

I've thought about this before lol

[dim escarp]

lol i get it. i didnt lose 30+ in a row i lost like maybe 8 time then i just called it for the night because i didnt wanna lose the rank

[hushed carbon]

Right... So you didn't rank down from wanderer to neophyte like you said.

[lilac portal]

@fluid lion you meant arming sword, right? 2H weps can't be bugged with dual wielding as far as I know.

[rare shell]

it would be so hype lol

[dim escarp]

dude I did i was wanderer and now i am not. I DONT KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED. Im not lying i was just voicing my confusion. lol

[pure wraith]

What am I supposed to do when cyclops lets frigging rocks rain?

[vestal silo]

my swings go through the opponent with no impact 😄

[hushed carbon]

Then you lost 30+ games.

You can do the math yourself, the charts are posted in the game. At the end of every run it tells you how much you lost/gained as well. After 100+ games I've never seen it inaccurate.

If you capture inaccuracies in the calculation make sure to screen capture it and send it to bug report. Otherwise you're mistaken.

The initial point you were trying to make that it's too easy to lose rank at low ranks is pretty much shattered though. There's no issue there.

If you lose 30+ games in a row you should de-rank from wanderer to neophyte.

[spare elbow]

Its def really hard to derank all the way to neophyte like youd have to try to be deranking really lol. If youre sure its a bug you should try to report it!

[green tinsel]

are they ever gonna fix the issue where some people can only start the game using a VPN

[rare shell]

suddenly everyone in hr gc is dying to pve

[spare elbow]

I only had to use that workaround once or twice like a month ago and now i have no issue

[green tinsel]

the launcher wont open for me unless i use a vpn and then turn it off once the game is loading

[spare elbow]

How long has it been affecting you?

[green tinsel]

everything was fine for the first week of launch and then when they did that first quick wipe is when it makes me use a VPN just about every single time i wanna play, sometimes it doesnt but more times than not it makes me use my vpn

[warped raft]

just shows us how much some cannot handle a class that requires thought to kill, that invis makes people see red

[high jewel]

Just watched a wizard die to floor spikes in HC GC while fighting for final portal. Good times.

[rare shell]

bro the goblins have way too far of reach lol

[spare elbow]

Their hit range is shorter than any skeleton 0.0

[rare shell]

yeah but they have daggers as swords, I honestly think its server lag, cuz ill be far af in places I usually dodge but itll randomly hit still

[spare elbow]

Servers have been pretty goofy lately, i got hit by zweihandler skeletons 10 times yesterday when i was 100% no doubt doing the correct crouch/lookdown dodge for them

[dry nebula]

Same

[rare shell]

yeah u have to crouch and look down 2 seconds earlier than normal, I swear the desync is terrible rn

also they need to change the hitbox for projectiles bro, they are not accurate ata all, again probably server issues, especially when I get teleported backwards into the projectile, and even floor spikes sometimes

[umbral ruin]

I am begging can we PLEASE do something about the spider mob collision. I shouldn't be fucking launched 10 feet or juggled around until I die when I get hit by a spider. I shit you not I just got stuck on 3 spiders and was juggled until I died for nearly 30 seconds.

[cosmic quail]

the servers have been goofy for sure. add the fucking mob collison on top of that and there's been times i've zipped across the whole room or get stuck in an infinite jump animation

[spare elbow]

Did you know you can kill spiders and their spawn pots?

[umbral ruin]

kind of hard when I'm A. being chased by multiple skeletons/other mobs and B. using a dagger which doesn't reach that far because I can't crouch when I'm being juggled in the air, smartass.

[hushed carbon]

Should still be able to hit them while being juggled. It is annoying. But dying to spiders over 30s shouldn't happen.

You can crouch while being juggled. Can confirm as a rogue.

[spare elbow]

Not trying to be a smartass dawg. Youre playing the class that probably clears mobs the slowest its just a consequence of your class.

All the mob spawns are predetermined too, you can try to avoid areas with spiders if that pleases you,.

[green tinsel]

IMO for normal gob caves the HR map needs an update to mob density bc if you spawn in the spider room its so fucked especially if zone is far from you

[umbral ruin]

My fault, just annoyed. I assume you can see why that seemed like a smartass response considering most players are aware that you can kill spiders/destroy pots.

[spare elbow]

You can just hug thefirst wall that leads closer to circle, and you should only need to clear 1 big boy spider, a couple mosquitos and maybe a death beetle.

@umbral ruin yeah it was easy to take that way. Never know if someone is a full noob tho i have seen one person before on here who didnt know you could bust the pot lol.

[main raven]

Spiders die quite easily, sure. This doesn't mean that the collision isn't a problem

[jagged lily]

Is it worthwhile to convert gold bags into gold ingots/golden keys? Stash space is a problem even with the additional storage

[main garden]

@spare elbow imagine justifying buggy interractions like a ***** because you are able to "Deal with it" btw yes it is possible to die to spiders over 30s, Ive seen people stuck on them for minutes and die 🙂

[green tinsel]

yes

[umbral ruin]

For selling, yeah, they go for a good bit right now if you can get the originally for cheap.

[hushed carbon]

Collision is a problem.

Being bounced around for 30s while slowly dying is majority a skill issue.

[main laurel]

Lack of quests being thought out in any meaningful way is insulting. Hey go collect 120 slots worth of space at the same time, oh and btw, let me hand you 5 gd pickaxes to make your life easier, and after that why not bring me another 40 ingots that only stack in 5, along with excess ore only stacking to 5.

[main raven]

The "lol spiders die easy" argument also falls flat by me simply stating that I've played this game since PT2 and it literally wasn't a problem back then

[spare elbow]

I really dont see how it is, between predetermined spawns, sound queues, and vision, there is no reason spider collision should ever affect you unless youre getting chased by a team into crowds of mobs, in which case some other mob would probably cause your death anyway, if the players havent caught you yet.

@main garden its a skill issue tho ive only died to spiders when im so out of time on extraction that my choices are die to zone or die to spider trying to open a door to get to a portal. Its not buggy, how else should spider collision be handled? Should you be able to just casually walk across them like they are floorboards? Lol

[umbral ruin]

For most classes yes, but when you're playing rogue and your dagger doesn't reach the spiders and you die in 3 spider hits, no it isn't a skill issue.

[main laurel]

Should be able to jump squish them. Also you can code juggling to be more consistent. Not really too much to ask, feels janky atm.

[hushed carbon]

First you said 30s now you say 3 hits. Get your story straight so we can accurately discuss it.

[main raven]

His point wasn't "spider collision"; it was the wonky collision physics, hence the whole "shouldn't be fucking launched 10 feet or juggled around until I die when I get hit by a spider" thing

I guess reading is a difficult thing to ask for nowadays.

[spare elbow]

Your point is confusing. Were talking about the collision effect when on top of spiders, are we not? This is what i was referring to when saying spider collision.

[umbral ruin]

Spiders being the smallest mob in the game, yes that is an okay solution.
@hushed carbon They don't hit every hit when you're floating above them lmao. Use your brain before you respond buddy.

[main raven]

Yes. Saying "spiders are easy to kill lmao" literally means jack because that's not the point of the conversation in the first place.

The point is that the physics are nonsensical and need to be fixed.

[limber badge]

Just hit the spiders like breath on them like make them fall over to a strong breeze like look at them wrong and they die

[main laurel]

Sunny over here never playing HR or what?

[hushed carbon]

K so if you're bouncing around for 30 seconds and in that time frame you get hit only 3 times, you should be able to kill them. There's absolutely no doubt about this.

Earlier you said you can't crouch when being juggled. You can. I think it's apparent at this point you don't know how to handle the situation.

[spare elbow]

I simply disagree unless you have an idea to make the collision better. Its so easy to avoid putting yourself in a situation where the collision could cause your death so it doesn’t matter that its wonky. I think its fun surfing on the spiders sometimes

[umbral ruin]

Maybe read what I've mentioned before responding. You can't crouch when in that position and daggers don't reach them. You really need to take a break from the responses, it's embarrassing.

[wild jay]

I'm pretty sure they fixed it so that the first swing can't be dodged by crouching

[limber badge]

One hit has turned into two, you right.

[main raven]

I never said to remove collision, I SAID the physics needed to be fixed so they don't send you flying. Jesus Christ you can't read.

@umbral ruin Honestly, give up while you're ahead. These people just DO NOT get it.

[hushed carbon]

You can crouch. You are wrong. That's why you died.

[spare elbow]

I never said you said to remove collision? Why you keep making stuff up and then calling my reading skills bad buddy?

[limber badge]

Who are these people jumping on seas of spiders in the first place? How does one get themselves into this position? Are you running blindly into spider jar rooms then backing into a corner?

[main raven]

"how dare Notty tries to 'picks up card' avoid the spiders by breaking the pot first instead of fighting the spiders that infinitely respawn?"

[hushed carbon]

What does this have to do with him being unaware he can crouch?

Also, in the scenario you just laid out you should probably stand on the pot to kill the spiders before breaking the pot. They can't hit you there.

[limber badge]

Anyone running at the jar without killing the first three spiders in the room, or at LEAST two, is a doofus and exactly how people get trapped and surf spiders.

[limber verge]

I LOVE that fighters get insanely high PDR and also you have to do 140% of their health to kill them! Really fun am I so glad they are in the game.

[main raven]

So we're really just gonna pretend like Spider Surfing is an intended feature of the game now? Yeah, I'm done talking to any of you.

@limber badge Its literally a waste of time to kill spiders before the pot's down

[spare elbow]

If youre cleric even in base kit its ok cause he 1 tap the jar. But you gotta be aware of where the spiders are behind you for sure

[hushed carbon]

No. It is an annoying feature. It also wasn't the major cause of his death. Two things can be true at once.

You also don't have to announce dramatically when you're done talking to someone. You can just leave.

And if you stand on pot and kill the spiders before breaking the pot then there are no spiders... Respawn time is 5s. 1-2 hits to break white pot. you should kill spiders from pot, then break pot.

[subtle heart]

Sunny is right skill issue

[limber badge]

I mean, if you're complaining about surfing, but don't want to resolve the issue by killing the things that cause you to surf first, I don't know what to tell you. You are killing spiders no matter what, and I think it's always smarter to kill some before you just run at the jar.

[spare elbow]

I think its a fun feature, i even changed my name to reflect my enjoyment of it

[vital cosmos]

Is there any update on what they're working on for the next update?

[hushed carbon]

Lmao, awesome 😎😂

[limber badge]

Druid is in the works for sure, the primary problem being solving the issue of motion sickness when using wild shape (coming from dev QnA). A ice map and ||dragon boss|| is in the works, and I believe is slated for a tentative Dec, but likely January.

[main raven]

"I mean, if you're complaining about surfing, but don't want to resolve the issue by killing the things that cause you to surf first..."

So you're ignoring the problem while ALSO saying I'm bad at the game. Got it.

Yet another name added to the block list. #the-tavern sure is something.

[undone belfry]

gotta love scumbag rogues teaming in goblins

[dusty solar]

Why the fuck is “organic teaming” allowed. Litteraly kills a decent game. And here comes the neckbeards to defend teaming

[limber badge]

This is #game-discussion though. And by all means, block me. That is the cowards way out anyway when you know you're wrong

[lunar fable]

What the fuck is with the teaming in GC right now?

[dusty solar]

Lost bis kit to getting trapped in corner by spider and not being able to hit it🥸

[main raven]

Not to be "that neckbeard" but there honestly isn't much of anything Ironmace could do about this. Even going full scorched earth and banning EVERYONE that's teaming would still be impossible since they just don't have the manpower to actually do that.

@dusty solar With the nerd emoji I'm honestly not sure if this is sarcasm or not lol

[knotty field]

Do you still get quest progress if you die after completing an objective? Like if I'm 14/15 for mimics, kill one, and then die, will ?I still get the kill credit after?

[dusty solar]

Not sarcasm the devs are nerds for shure. They can put a report button after u die and have a mechanic that records the last minute before u die and then have some discord mods watch the videos and ban ppl when they team

[crimson burrow]

Yes you will get credit for the kill missions

[hushed carbon]

I thought you were leaving?

[main raven]

No offense, but I'm not sure if I trust Discord mods with bans lol

I do think something has to be done about the absolutely-egregious teaming on servers like OCE, though; I'm just not sure what, exactly

[limber badge]

You can do this already lol, they announced it weeks ago. Save for the report button, you can submit clips of teaming.

[dusty solar]

I don’t either actually but they can def hire ppl to do it that was just a cheap way. You can appeal bans too and there will be the video as proof. Also there are voip logs they can listen to to hear when they agree to team. @limber badge a in game report button is miles and miles better then needing to save a clip and send it in, they have no way to get steam ids from a clip @main raven there in game id tied to there account u know what I mean

[main raven]

They can't stead Steam IDs from an in-game report, either, though? It's not on Steam anymore lol

[dusty solar]

If they don’t have replay software with the ability to pull ids and see who killed each other then there just incompetent

@zinc sparrow @subtle heart @oblique isle There I just fixed ur teaming problem

[limber badge]

[cosmic quail]

tbh the teaming problem is no where near as bad as it once was. HR now has more players and its harder to snipe. feels like it's the wrong thing to focus their resources on

[warm orchid]

Boy oh boy I love spawning in the tunnel in sewers and not being able to move or do anything about the mob that’s within aggro range off spawn

[cosmic quail]

you can walk along the walls to get past the zombies and mummies but yes that spawn is trash.

[warm orchid]

Usually that’s what I do but this time I couldn’t move at all

[wind pollen]

can yall use ur heads and make the quest account based not everycharacter ? no one wants grind every single quest again over and over

[little thicket]

what is the difference between physical power and physical damage bonus? 1 point in each does literally 1:1 the exact same thing

[cosmic quail]

physical power is % bonus. physical damage is flat addition. the higher your phys power the more your damage scales. the wiki shows when it starts falling off in scaling

if you look at the character sheet it shows the information on each stat if you hover over it. it shows all the different stat bonuses

[little thicket]

you didn't answer my question bro. what is the difference between physical power and % physical damage bonus? 1 power = 1% increased physical damage. so it's literally the exact same thing

[limber badge]

He...answered your question exactly lol

[cosmic quail]

dnd wiki has all that info it's not that complicated.

[vapid oyster]

no he didn't. physical power increases your physical power bonus, which starts negative. physical power starts at 0, str gives physical power. https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats#Physical_Power

[little thicket]

you are missing the point bro. at 15 phyiscal power, every additional physical power is 1% increased phys damage. nothing else. so it is LITERALLY the same thing as 1% physical damage bonus. it was a rhetorical question. I am asking why do these 2 seperate stats exist

[limber badge]

"What is the difference"
"Here's the difference"
"That is not what I asked"

[storm halo]

can you still go to hell in common lobbies on crypts

[vapid oyster]

he's not asking about +physical dmg though, so just stop acting like that answer was correct, it's not. The reason for having both stats is itemization. you get physical power from strength or just phys power points on items, but the bonus is a % and gives diminishing returns

[cosmic quail]

0 Physical Power starts at = -80% Physical Power Bonus

Every Physical Power point gives a % increase to overall Physical Power Bonus

Strength gives a 1:1 for phys power.

[little thicket]

this guy.. you are just dodging the question

[limber badge]

Yes

[cedar spire]

Players in my ruins normals game had legendary and purple gear as well as a gold coin purse????
MAMTPAXEP and SirBaller

New exploit or cheat?

[cosmic quail]

you ask "why" they both exist. either you want the literal reason, which is what i just sourced from the website. or you're wanting an opinion. idk why you think im dodging anything i'm quite literally answering your question.

When you get to 15 phys power you start to get scaling but it caps off to 35% unless you somehow have like 50+ phys power bonus

[devout yoke]

This game is fkin amazing. Thank you, that is all.

[hushed carbon]

Yes, screen clip and send to dev team. This isn't really a game discussion thing.

[dusty solar]

Did you see the post of ripoze team running off when they where getting smacked and finding there friends in the same game and going back and teaming on the guys that where beating them. Def not a problem when the biggest streamers can do it and not get banned

[vocal badger]

hey chat, any solution or fix to help out with the constant rubber banding ingame or are the servers just on overload?

[dusty solar]

+Physical damage is not a flat addition it is scaled off your physical power bonus then added to ur total damage

There is a equation you can find I think it is base damage + (phys power bonus * addition phys damage from gear or perk) + any phys damage percentages + true phys = ur flat damage before pdr @little thicket

[brave ravine]

Rogue is in a horrible state for pvp, so you should just play the game and stop crying. Unless you are playing against BIS rogue they get 2 tapped by most classes.

[dusty solar]

I 2 tap full gear fighter as barb I don’t think the ammount of hp translates to how good the class is

[main raven]

Did you use Reckless Attack?

[dusty solar]

Ofc u don’t always need to tho. I forget to use it a lot and it’s more like 3 shots but they still die @main raven ppl say barb is bad cause the blood exchange nerf but I have never even equipped that skill and I rarely lose

[wet crow]

Hit a rogue with not much gear 4 times as a fighter with a falchion when I was fairly kitted with strength gear and orc skin. Didnt kill him. idk what youre talking about 2 tap

[livid onyx]

Do you get AP for loot twice, if you keep it in your inventory and then extract a second time

[dusty solar]

Yea since vitality there a little bit weaker since they don’t get 150 hp when they stack str

[main raven]

Is the +5 All Att one good? I'm thinking about running it

[weak umbra]

1 limb hits? its impossible otherwise

[vapid oyster]

lotta people simply can't accept that limb hits and sour spot weapon hits can happen

[vivid bay]

Servers laggin rn or just me?

[dusty solar]

Have never ran that either tbh but I look at it a lot and think about trying it😂 you won’t get a lot of damage from it as your already at soft cap of ur phys power bonus as base barb and even higher with rage. I don’t even stack damage as barb cause u 2-3 shot everything with felling

[main raven]

You'd get 10 HP from +5 Att anyway, and with the Agi nerf +5 wound be nice

[brave ravine]

Gotta aim for the head brotha

[dusty solar]

U get more hp with the Hp perk but then there’s also the skill that gives u a bunch of hp so

[torpid radish]

There a few areas of the crpyt map that drop my fps considerably for me, Anyone else have this issue at all? only certain areas of the map. My system is pretty decent dont see why i have this problem.

[wet crow]

Ah yes because its very easy to hit a rogue in the head when he has 70+ more ms than you fo sure

[dusty solar]

I fucking hate the state of this game rn but talking ab it makes me wanna play

[spare elbow]

Someone should make a hot take about the game so i can attack you personally for having a different opinion than me.

[warped orchid]

Gaem iz gud

[dusty solar]

Devs make drastic changes we clearly don’t like then just make us play with them for there own amusement

[warped orchid]

Who’s we? People have been begging for a started dungeon since EA launched

[dusty solar]

Bro that’s not even a starter dungeon they just took out all the loot u can’t even get geared up to fight higher tier players in normal. All they did was force the whole playerbase to go to high roller where there’s too much loot and the mobs actually make the game unfun. Goblin caves should be the starter area to gear up and u can go into normals as 3 with base gear and have a chance to kill geared ppl

[main garden]

@dusty solar exactly. ding ding ding. have fun getting some greens maybe a blue if you are lucky and taking it into high roller vs a meta squad (assuming you have left apprentice mmr)

[dusty solar]

The juicers will be in higher mmr so u will be on more level footing when going into hr with the blues and greens u should get from normal. Hr should be risky as fuck like it was the whole time before they added this normals shit where it’s pointless to go anywhere but hr

[warped orchid]

Maybe ya’ll shouldn’t be trying to get loot from normals then. If you have shit gear just rat in HR Goblins or Crypts

[spare elbow]

Fr tho 1 HR run give you better gear than 10 normals lol. Normals im just using for casual questing (kill skeles and mimics get campfires/caps)

[onyx lotus]

plaso rangers are trash now, slow arrows, no more traps buying etc hm

[dusty solar]

That’s the shittest take I have ever heard. Force the whole community into hr so u can bob around in normals and waste ur time not getting gear or money or xp. Hr needs to be hard mode not normal mode

[warped orchid]

I do agree with you that as it stands, there is no reason to play Normals, except if you’re brand new and just learning or if you couldn’t be assed with actually playing the game for BIS gear and stuff

[dusty solar]

Fucking make below 15 not be able to trade and they have there own Lobys and when you hit 15 u can decide to trade and get into lobys with juicers or not trade and stay in no trade lobys

[weak umbra]

how is anyone having fun in green rank+? everyone is just camping until the last circle and i dont even see a lot of full teams, its usually all solo and duo

[unique nebula]

any news on quest changes? 20 gold bars quest is just too unreasonable to unlock crafting, you spend 10k+ worth of coin just to unlock the thing. Also 15 liches killed needed and non-sharable mean you need min 135 matches to get it done for a team of 3 , and that's if you did not even fail once

[dusty solar]

I promise you 99% of the player base isn’t running around with bis. This is the problem y’all think anyone moderately geared is bis but in reality you just lose the skill check. There should be no easy mode to learn the game y’all need to go play a tarkov wipe till u get good. Goblin caves with low mmr can be the easy mode if u really need one

[spare elbow]

I think normals could be green gear capped and it would probably be fine. Wouldnt be so prohibitive for those who dont want to compete in HR.

@weak umbra i hit green on my cleric and now its all super juicy tryhard squads so now i can only play my cleric if im sure i have a good team lol.

[spare elbow]

I think its healthy to have a beginner level for brand new players. It takes some time to learn how to safely clear all the mob types while also being aware of other players. Tarkov is far easier to learn the basics of combat, since the depth of combat includes using cover and shooting stuff like any other shooter on earth.

[dusty solar]

Yea even better arguement for why it should be goblin caves. It’s a natural easy mode without making a dedicated easy mode

[warped orchid]

Well I am not running around with legendaries but I am pretty well stocked up on BIS purples/blues, I do pretty well for myself hehe

[dense violet]

Don't know where to do reports, (also don't know if this is a well known thing) but mobs like archers and skelly mages will continue to track you through invis if they start aiming at you before you cast it. My buddy just died because the mage tracked him through his invis

[ashen thistle]

If you drop a rank in HR do you continue to lose AP if you have already attained apprentice but are back to being a Neophite?

[main garden]

@dusty solar have you left neohpyte mmr? most squads I run into are running dam near BIS blues/purples, maybe 1 or 2 items arent BiS but they definately arent bad

[spare elbow]

I think it would be okay to have a beginners lobby for accounts with less than “X” hours of playtime. And then normals can be green capped probably, and keep high roller free or low cost like 25-50 gold most

[cosmic quail]

yeah games get more intense as you rank up for sure. playing HR on a pre-15 character there's like almost 0 pvp and everyone is naked lol

[thin patrol]

game crashes, I lose gear because I cant rejoin, how tf do the devs expect this game to live

[dusty solar]

You don’t know what bis is just like everyone else. Go in trade and look at the Chinese names posting a page of gear that is bis. Average gear with a couple good stats is not automatically bis everyone is in high roller good gear is everywhere

[calm torrent]

LOBBIES ARE ALMOST FULL OF MAGES NOW KEKW

[hollow tide]

hello everyone I think there is a problem with the ruins I have just come across the same player twice with gear which was the same and which was epic and in ruins we can take that from the common there must be a a technique to do this but it's really not cool

[main garden]

@dusty solar yea... ok guess I know nothing forget I said anything 🫡

[wind isle]

get good

[warped orchid]

Yeah 100% but I think that’s good cuz all the fighters

[vapid oyster]

fuck fighters

[small pewter]

why did they take out hunting traps from the store?

[dusty solar]

Lower tier gear just needs to be better so ppl don’t have to spam high roller and ppl don’t complain about getting stomped in normals cause they can get equally as geared. Make hr 25 gold and make normals spawn up to blue and the whole game won’t be spamming hr

[cosmic quail]

this new system is way better than anything theyve done before. i like the normal raids not having gear beyond common.

you can buy purple gear on the trade for like 50-100g now. which i think is awesome. play a few normals and then have enough to be purp'd out in HR like everyone else. idk how else they could make this better

[warm kraken]

Splitting the game into multiple queues probably isn't a good fix

[dusty solar]

I mean it needs to happen or all the casuals will quit. @cosmic quail u can also go into hr and loot for 5 min for the same effect. U know playing the actual game

[rapid stirrup]

they could delete the white lobbies, that would absolutely make it better

[coarse hinge]

you have to craft them now with 2 Iron bars

[vapid oyster]

absolute S tier change btw

[small pewter]

dumb question where do i get iron from?\

[cosmic quail]

nah dude. only people complaining about white lobbies are people who want unfair advantage over others. people wanting to bring HR gear into lobbies with naked players lmao

[dusty solar]

Bro the whole fucking game is based off unfair advantages. Weather it be a class countering another class or u having better gear that’s how looter games work

[coarse hinge]

anywhere you can mine at, i have seen most deposits in the goblin caves though.

[weak umbra]

[empty gulch]

the fact you can't turn in one item at a time with these quests lmaoooo, 60 slots for a level one quests

[spare elbow]

I think the loot tables betwen normal and HR better reflect the difficulty difference between them right now, so i hope that doesnt change much if at all

[thin patrol]

Why cant you rejoin anymore after a crash, what the fuck are the devs doing?? They literally are trying their best to make the gaming experience meaningless, for what would you play for high gear when you crash and lose all of it

[proper prawn]

can you buy leather caps and use them to turn in quest?

[cosmic quail]

did you really just say unfair advantage is the point?? if you actually read the dev's Q&A they said pvp is not fun when you get one shot. they've talked about how they want everything to be more balanced. fights are way more even and fun. actually get a chance to fight back and not get 1-tapped by demon's glee

[dusty solar]

You litteraly can’t get better gear then u spawn with in normals or even buy it from traders so idk how that makes sence. Normals is a complete waste of time for anyone that didn’t buy the game litteraly that day.

[thorn rune]

Yeah highroller is more fun anyways

[main garden]

normals is a waste of time.... just go into HR, the first item you find will be worth more than the entire loot pool of normals lol!

[coarse hinge]

I think it would have been better to limit the number of utility items a person is allowed to take in. Now i just die and get a character reset if i use them. Its faster than attempting to mine enough ore and extract with how relentless Wizards and Fighters are. But thats just my experience as a Ranger....which seems fair cause i will shoot them if i see them first....

[subtle heart]

fellas do you know why I have 15 campfires but the woodman just accpts 6 of them?

[vapid oyster]

you get two free traps.. git gud