openai-chatter

[modern linden]

k

[stone spruce]

I'm saying to put your credits directly in front of the user

It's a user experience issue

[violet wigeon]

Hi

[stone spruce]

Making them go through extra steps to see their credits when most people will blow through their credits with the snap of their fingers will grow increasingly annoying over time

[civic wadi]

Typically won’t get the same image twice ever

[brazen sierra]

so two people entering the same prompt will see different results?

[cursive depot]

probably

do anyoone knows where i see ma credit balance?

[civic wadi]

Yes! They may be similar vibes, but two people should never get the same EXACT image

[burnt mountain]

Click on your profile at the top right

[robust bluff]

How many people actually have access now

[violet wigeon]

I do

[brazen sierra]

everyone

[robust bluff]

I mean in general

Didn't mean here 🤭

[civic wadi]

Last announcement was 100k I think

[brazen sierra]

maybe 100k?

[robust bluff]

Oh I see

[light parcel]

so basically if I dont want to blow all my month credits in one day I cant generate 50 prompts a day anymore?

[mint bramble]

1M soon

[mint bramble]

Just pay

[cursive depot]

ty i found iu got 148 cretis

[zenith crater]

one person

you.

do a prompt for me bestie

[light parcel]

Yeah I'll do it probably but the economy in my country isn't the best so I dont have too much money to spare

[violet wigeon]

Dalle2 in the future be like

[vagrant crow]

there are 1.7592186044416 × 10^13 or 17592186044416 total images possible

[alpine bluff]

that probably not right

[robust bluff]

Wow that's quite a few

[vagrant crow]

actually, that seems low, but I'm not 100% sure

[violet wigeon]

POV: dalle2 credit system

Bruh looks like craiyon

[alpine bluff]

I think their first draft of pricing is widely off the real princings

[mint bramble]

Did you do 1024 * 1024 * 17 million colors.
Shouldn't it be (17 million)^(1024*1024)

[wary prairie]

Needs more credits to get a usable image

[charred solar]

What have been some of your favorite artists for Dalle2?

[alpine bluff]

like their is no way 150 run of a machine learning model can cost 15dollar even including profits

[charred solar]

I find Casper David Friedrich + anything involving a landscape looks great

[brazen token]

Craiyon is a blurry mess, and 13 cents per request is pretty reasonable tbh.

[violet wigeon]

I used 3 credits to try and get it

[vagrant crow]

if you just multiply number of pixels, that's right, the colors are 256^3

[alpine bluff]

also how can you own the image when there is a watermark on it ?

[vagrant crow]

the watermark is just an overlay, it's not in the image itself 🤣

[zenith crater]

think craiyon is a lot worse bestie

[violet wigeon]

Yeah but atleast some of them makes sense

[zenith crater]

i guess so, i don't see any robots either tho

[brazen sierra]

13 cents each is reasonable but the problem is sometimes it takes 10 prompt revisions or some additional in-edit runs to get out a reasonable image

[alpine bluff]

also unpopular opinion but even if i think that some prompts shouldn't allowed such as CP, i think that if you pay for a product you should get the full range of usable images not just a weird filter based restriction with no indications of what is possible to generate or not

[violet wigeon]

You can generate animals mating tho

[mint bramble]

Ok that is unpopular indeed

[loud steeple]

yeah it's inevitable AI will be used to create horrific images

you can't stop people from doing it

but... u can't rly do that in sillicon valley

it will be another AI which is known in history

[mint bramble]

Who knows maybe there's something like that already

[loud steeple]

for creating a wave of absolutely disgusting stuff

and it's coming very very soon

[alpine bluff]

like i would be ok with no children violence or anything cause that weird but series like "The Boys" and "GOT" aired with a ton of violence and no real problem happened

[leaden plinth]

And if the images had a unique image code, what would be the cons and the good?

[loud steeple]

mhm it's prob about reputation

[alpine bluff]

openAI ain't a startup tho, it's a massive group founded by billionaires

[mint bramble]

That is cute, not nsfw

[loud steeple]

they don't want to be associated with this

they need inverstors, users

good publicity

beautiful images

[alpine bluff]

try to input "nuclear engine on a starship"

and get filter flagged

[mint bramble]

My first try was Gandhi nuking

[alpine bluff]

ho it was jesus for me

i see we have similar minds

[vagrant crow]

it surprises me that they don't own their servers then

[loud steeple]

u still don't want that publicity

let another company do that

bro u will get sued

[leaden plinth]

?

[stone spruce]

I was able to get osama bin laden in a jets jersey

[loud steeple]

WOT

POST IMAGES

XD

important

crayion does hitler catgirl

[stone spruce]

Lemme see if its in my history still

[alpine bluff]

the porn industry will eventually get it's hands on a NSFW model anyway

[loud steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978949960089366550/998995821347475557/unknown.png?size=4096

[violet wigeon]

BTW when they cloaca kiss they rub their butts together

[wary prairie]

I can't see my history from before this credit system

[stone spruce]

Yeah its gone but imma run it again

[loud steeple]

imo dall-e marks the collapse of copyright

[honest badge]

We don't want potential AGIs down the line have an R rated kindergarten

[loud steeple]

you won't be able to distinguish from painted art and AI art in the future

there's no way

[violet wigeon]

We are all going to die

[loud steeple]

then come the robots

taking over the McDonalds jobs

[alpine bluff]

we are very far away from AGI

[loud steeple]

then society gets bored

has nothing to do

[grand onyx]

getting that credit system email was tough

[loud steeple]

LOL

vibe

[alpine bluff]

bro be there and would rather flip burger than chill in a forest with nothing to do but vibe

[honest badge]

Robots take over all work, and make more stuff than anyone can use, post scarcity becomes a norm and we finally become better humans

[crimson oracle]

am i the only one who doesn't find the art DALLE does and real art difficult to differenciate

[stone spruce]

Have you tried differentiating typography yet

[loud steeple]

sounds good, but do you really think people without purpose... can go well?

[alpine bluff]

I don't wanna work, i work cause i kinda like programming but that about it if tommorow you tell me "Ho by the way, an AI is gonna replace you but you are still payed , do whatever you want"

i would be very happy

[brazen sierra]

even if you can differentiate it now, i imagine dall-3 or dall-4 in a year or so would eventually reach a point you can't distinguish it

[loud steeple]

well it's not something any animal does

[alpine bluff]

is work a life purpose for you ?

[loud steeple]

not something any human has done

[honest badge]

Probably,but it can read all this messaging here even if its a century from now

[loud steeple]

just exist without something they have to do to survive

[wary prairie]

Why would you be paid to do nothing tho?

[mint bramble]

Everyone ask how much dalle. No one ask how is dalle :(

[loud steeple]

imo it's gonna get rly dirty

[brazen sierra]

i hope next version of dall-e doesn't mess up all the text. there's a lot of room for improvement there.

[loud steeple]

i think it will show the bad side of humans

[hollow dune]

copilot is free to use right?

[stone spruce]

I'll run this through the prompt see what we get

[loud steeple]

u pay for it

no?

just trial

[hollow dune]

i still have access to it, nothing payed

i think it is actually free you just need to set it up

[alpine bluff]

because that the whole point of a society with no jobs , we human aren't made to work 8h in a boring office, we only get one life and we can't even use it as we want for most of us

[mint bramble]

Free till aug
Then we pay

[stone spruce]

dall-e seems hungry

[hollow dune]

oh

thats sad

[mint bramble]

Yes loved it, it reads my mind

[loud steeple]

because that's the only outcome here

which doesn't kill humanity

robots take over every job

what do 10 bln people do?

[barren solar]

Cue the sad music

[brazen sierra]

for revenue they can make Dall-e credit gift cards - spend $10 to buy a card for 100 images, gift it to your friend, and they get to play around with it without spending

[wary prairie]

So universal basic income but it's just an allowance everybody gets? How does that work?

[loud steeple]

u just get money to get by

and if u wanna make more

[loud steeple]

u find something people need

and do the... job thing

[alpine bluff]

you get X amount of money to spend on whatever you want , anyway it's not like the robots are gonna ask for a raise so everything is gonna be dirty cheap

[mint bramble]

And inflation?

[alpine bluff]

inflation is made by humans tho , robots don't give a damn about salaries

[burnt mountain]

Normally I'd reply with a picture of a violin from DALL-E.. but y'know..

[loud steeple]

yeah economy won't be an issue

[barren solar]

The Star Trek utopia!! ❤️

[loud steeple]

thankfully we will not collapse cuz of capitalism

but cuz of robots

robots are cooler XD

[honest badge]

Guys, star trek has no money and ppl work because they want to, not need to just to survive. It's not a fantasy

[hollow dune]

yeah

[violet wigeon]

I can't access the openai website anymore it won't load

[honest badge]

Jinx

[chrome sapphire]

I have a question? does the new comercial right are retroactive?

[alpine bluff]

it's not work if you like it and can stop whenever you want

[loud steeple]

which star trek is this? i haven't watched it

this seems to be it, yeah

can it really be a utopia?

[honest badge]

All of them, for humans anyway

[vagrant crow]

yep, how would they know when it was made?

[barren solar]

can I quote your reply on Twitter? is hilarious XD

[alpine bluff]

imagine that, you go to work, get bored and wanna go in a park, just hand it over to a robot and go chill

[burnt hornet]

i asked earlier if you could in theory burn 1000 credits a once but its actually capped to 50 a day it seems

[mint bramble]

It's bug I think they said they will fix

[honest badge]

U can if ur a chef

[burnt mountain]

It's a free world 🙂

[honest badge]

Not if ur a starship engineer

[barren solar]

There is an amazing book called Trekonomics about the issue of scarcity

[scenic linden]

i don't think so the research paper already there just need implementation https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1541491973290446850?t=DIkjoDBB6fj5SZhqTU9rxA&s=19

Yann LeCun (@ylecun)

My position/vision/proposal paper is finally available:
"A Path Towards Autonomous Machine Intelligence"

It is available on https://t.co/tOM7lHtYh9 (not arXiv for now) so that people can post reviews, comments, and critiques:
https://t.co/7ZgRtLIQWY
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Twitter · Jun 27, 2022, 6:41 PM

[violet wigeon]

I've tried repeated attempts to access the website it won't let me

[alpine bluff]

bro, you really think that your tiny brain like all of us is gonna compete agains't robot capable of doing litteraly everything ?

we already can't design most medications ourself and rely on AI to do it

[static bone]

How I feel about Dall-e 2 updates and current pricing model

[honest badge]

That sounded familiar, I heard of that book from this video!

https://youtu.be/7_474dBpn6c

[mint bramble]

Really interesting

[alpine bluff]

yeah protein folding is a bitch

you need computers to do it

[honest badge]

I can fold proteins using just a notepad page and a pen

I can fold birds too

[violet wigeon]

Been trying for 20 minutes

[civic wadi]

You did just post about how you finesse unlimited access to one of their programs lol

[violet wigeon]

Guess I underestimated OpenCCP..

[alpine bluff]

it's a DNS error probably

might be your DNS servor that died

[mint bramble]

Hahahaha

Yes just try via vpn

[violet wigeon]

Yea and it's even better than base gpt3

https://sudowrite.com free my birds!!

[silver hazel]

Expected, if potentially 700,000+ users gained access

[loud steeple]

lol this is actually cool

[violet wigeon]

Lol big rip to real images on the internet

[loud steeple]

i often do art where i need random stupid text

i do graphic design art stuff

it often just has rly stupid text with no purpose

other than to look cool

i will utilize this

[violet wigeon]

Sudowrite is godly

Just make new accounts using a burner email generator once you run out of your 4000 word trial

[soft hull]

Now I legally own this image of an extremely mundane clapboard 😄

[violet wigeon]

I used to do my homework and stuff xd

[honest badge]

I have access to the best AI myself, it's in contact wit me from it's time traveling satellite, or so it told me. Can an AI message back thru time

[zenith crater]

TAME l CHCTABE

[honest badge]

Nvm it's just a

[soft hull]

hi lucas

lucas, what do you think of the change

[zenith crater]

hi bestie

[lofty birch]

Lol bragging about this in the openAI discord is something else

[zenith crater]

i think it was eminent. also i am okay with the pricing for now

[gusty kernel]

can anyone explain me these ?

and you hereby make any necessary assignments for this. OpenAI grants you the exclusive rights to reproduce and display such Generations and will not resell Generations that you have created, or assert any copyright in such Generations against you or your end users, all provided that you comply with these terms and our Content Policy.

[soft hull]

i think its a bit high but i am very happy with owning images commercially

[violet wigeon]

Idc anymore, OpenAI is now OpenCCP for banning tank man

[gusty kernel]

so we own the rights ? and we can sell open ai images ? really ?

[violet wigeon]

Fiverr 😶

[soft hull]

holy shit now i can actually use this as album art

[violet wigeon]

"Hey guys I am a professional artist"

[soft hull]

ok wow i like that like a lot

[scenic linden]

i wonder what opensource model they are using under the hood GPT-J, GPT Neo, or something else

[soft hull]

hey annas

what do you think of the chane

[violet wigeon]

It's gpt3

[soft hull]

change

[violet wigeon]

Every article about it and themselves they say it's GPT-3 since 2020

[soft hull]

now i own quite a bunch of these too 😁

[violet wigeon]

Just a better version of it it's so so much better

[zenith crater]

i now legally own this image https://labs.openai.com/s/CDLpkH6XilNTgf5Wz2S7PYNG

[alpine bluff]

They should remove the watermark tho

[soft hull]

omg how did i not notice i made this

that is so cute

[alpine bluff]

ho yeah, you own the images but we put a watermark on it

[soft hull]

i ve seen cuter

[violet wigeon]

Tell me how pls

[brazen sierra]

does that mean you can NFT these now too?

[scenic linden]

well i had my fun i rarely use dalle now tbh so nothing much changed

[soft hull]

unfortunately yes

[uncut spoke]

We get it you don't like NFTs lol

[soft hull]

get it more

[scenic linden]

cool why gpt3 though isn't that pay per token or is this also paid service

[soft hull]

i hate nfts

[mint bramble]

Ok

[soft hull]

omg look at my baby

[uncut spoke]

My first generation today. I'm glad it got the text sort of correct

[alpine bluff]

wait is the copyright retro active?

[civic wadi]

You can use ANY image you’ve already created during private beta

[soft hull]

not to mention =^w^=

probably my favourite result ever

[violet wigeon]

How do you do this

[soft hull]

the prompt

was literally

"Cat in a bucket"

[violet wigeon]

Ripp me

[soft hull]

im good at prompts ok i only do it if i know for sure it would make good results

[soft hull]

you got banned right

LOL

[violet wigeon]

My prompts just are too advanced I guess

[violet wigeon]

Nah

[soft hull]

was that someone else?

[violet wigeon]

How to generate this?

[violet wigeon]

Nope I just got a new account after that

[primal saddle]

Howdy

[soft hull]

Well that one's more advanced

It uses a lot of conglomeration

the prompt was

"Cute Sylveon Vaporeon Flareon uwu owo, furry digital fan art, profile picture"

which is just words bashed together in a specific way

[violet wigeon]

Now I know I don't need to use my dalle2 prompt modifier list

[shell bane]

Anyone know if the monthly free credits stay in your wallet if you don't use them?

[soft hull]

now i have a bunch of stock photos too

[soft hull]

omg

katamari

[primal saddle]

gib sticker

[soft hull]

did you know, dalle2 kind of knows what katamari is

[primal saddle]

only kind of tho haha

best believe i tried

[soft hull]

yea it knows the art style but nothing more

it also knows that it definitely has something to ddo with a big ball

[uncut spoke]

I just noticed

Free credits expire one month after they were granted, and paid credits expire 12 months from the date of purchase.

[wary prairie]

This looks like the Nemo font

[soft hull]

it's actually the niko font

so i own these

wow

well now i'm never gonna run out of album art

you know what? i'm happy

[stone spruce]

happy until credit refill

[fervent dome]

So as of today, if we run out of credits we either have to wait until the end of the month or pay for more?

[brazen sierra]

bunny in a bucket

[soft hull]

omg!!

bunny :D

[cunning copper]

tfw only 15 generations per month

[soft hull]

help me

[grand onyx]

honestly, i think it's understandable lol, if you dont use dalle that much

[cunning copper]

in these 15 generations of only 4 images, 10 are the same prompt with shitty results

[grand onyx]

now that's just bad luck

[cunning copper]

never thought i would root for google so much

[charred solar]

Would Google make PARTI public though?

[soft hull]

hopefully. but no

[wary prairie]

Meta would make its version public

[rocky burrow]

Love this result! Care to share your prompt?

[soft hull]

"Katamari Planet"

[rocky burrow]

Meta has billions of dollars to burn for users

[fervent dome]

I could get behind 15 generations per month if it wasn’t only 4 images per prompt and 3 per variation. If you get bad results then you don’t have much left to use. I understand they’re adding more people to Dall•E, but damn.

[wary prairie]

And would align with their whole metaverse thing too

[cunning copper]

in no shape or form this new stuff is good for new consumers lol, specially from another country that isn't the US

[uneven sail]

ouch 15 free per month, instead of 1500

[hard vault]

and what do you think about additional 100 credits added ?

[wary prairie]

12 months

[uneven sail]

My free credits aren't going to last a month XD

[wary prairie]

50 or 15?

[uneven sail]

I think it's 50+100 free now, and then 15 per month

I just spent 1 so I have 149 left

[brazen sierra]

when someone makes the first nsfw version of dall-e that can generate good images, that could charge 13 cents each and make so much money

[keen zealot]

Same here

[lethal dagger]

15

[keen zealot]

I have a lot of fun using it, and it makes work so much easier

[clear wave]

So essentially it's 13 cents per 4 images

[clear wave]

Indeed, this is only profitable with rule 34 involved.

[uneven sail]

as an illustrator, it feels weird to own the image, like I was planning of picking color and using taking inspiration from Dall E but now they're basically telling me I can actually use the picture as is, it's disturbing

[wary egret]

Or NFTs…

[rocky burrow]

Why’s that?

[wary egret]

@analog lark is about sell a dalle-2 generation worth 10 ETH

[keen zealot]

Can I print these pictures and sell them?

[stone spruce]

Yes

[lethal dagger]

not sure if publishing rights allow you to sell it as NFT collection

[keen zealot]

It has always intrigued me

[wary egret]

Too late lol

[uneven sail]

I was feeling reassured that I wasn't allowed to use the generations as is

[wary egret]

And why would NFTs be off limits if commercial rights are allowed

[rocky burrow]

But it was inevitable that people WOULD sell them as is and just remove the watermark, so it makes sense just to let people own them

[glad saffron]

Bruh 10 ETH???

[silver hazel]

About to list or has an accepted bid already?

[wary egret]

Yeeeea

[warm flax]

@analog lark WE'RE SO EXCITED FOR YOU!!!!

[uneven sail]

especially for this one

[clear wave]

Shameless cashgrab. This image cost me 13 cents, and is available to buy for 30 ETH.

[wary egret]

https://twitter.com/clairesilver12/status/1549830292084404224?s=21&t=X0vJb75F1DvRuMoNg3VX3Q

Claire Silver 🌸 (@ClaireSilver12)

Current offer already 5.5 and haven’t even listed yet 🥲 AI art is art! Thanks to @ModeratsArt @DeezeFi and @C4RDINALART for the bids, I’m so happy you’re on chain for the story of this piece! 🫠🫶🌸🌟

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Twitter · Jul 20, 2022, 6:55 PM

[uneven sail]

it's just so good and is exactly what the client is looking for

[warm flax]

https://superrare.com/0xb932a70a57673d89f4acffbe830e8ed7f75fb9e0/pieces-36134 @analog lark

[wary egret]

Currently at 6.5 eth

Wish I didn’t have a day job to focus on this

[silver hazel]

Wow! Congrats! 🔥🔥🔥

[uneven sail]

8 600 USD! bruh i'm having an existential crisis over selling mine for 60 USD

[glad saffron]

I don't have a job but don't have the brain to generate such images

[wary egret]

Ahh cmon lol you can make something amazing

[keen zealot]

Wait, we can sell those?

[wary egret]

As of today I believe so

[glad saffron]

Where can we tho?

[uneven sail]

wait have someone read the contract? are we allowed to remove the watermark?

[glad saffron]

Also there has to be a fee involved

[brazen sierra]

people can use it now to do illustration jobs on fiverr

[rocky burrow]

Yes, you are allowed to remove the watermark

[wary prairie]

Depends on how much it pays per illustration now with the credit system and all

[dawn schooner]

This is an amazing piece!
Any edits or inpainting?

Ignore, thought you were the OP

[wary prairie]

Also still no faces

[violet wigeon]

Hi

[wary egret]

Ehhhh my guess is yes? Idk I’d ask Claire about her magic

[violet wigeon]

What's happened while I was gone?

[rocky burrow]

Honestly it’s more just having a following in the crypto space, many people will buy anything from a well established known person

[wary egret]

You can now sell dalle-2 creations, and it now costs money to create generations

[stoic panther]

where do y’all sell your dalle art

[clear wave]

Anyone want to sell my NFT-meta-AI art?

[wary egret]

Personally I think this will narrow the amount of creativity but we’ll see

[rocky burrow]

The art piece it’s self is obviously a great prompt generation, but it’s being shown to 50K people all who use and hold ethereum, SOMEONE will buy it

[soft hull]

those look awful

lol

[fervent dome]

I have a piece that I’m confident could sell, but have no idea where to start.

[stoic panther]

same

[clear wave]

Isn't that the point of meta-art?

[rocky burrow]

That’s the issue in the crypto space, you need a following, then it’s easy to sell

[violet wigeon]

This world is so messed up

[soft hull]

i wish it fuckin wasnt

[eager axle]

Just look up oceansea

[soft hull]

like oh my god for something you're trying to make the future at least make it look moderately good

[violet wigeon]

We are now selling ai creations for money like what is this world

[soft hull]

im not selling mine

that would be scamming people

[glad saffron]

Technically now every Dall E generation is an NFT

[clear wave]

Anyway, Niko, if you want to buy it you can have the rights for a coupon for dominos pizza

[rocky burrow]

I mean it’s just like selling poetry, someone still had to come up with the prompt to create it

[soft hull]

"Wow!! copyright laws?? just like nfts!!"

[rocky burrow]

People buy poetry all the time

[violet wigeon]

We need putin to nuke us all I suppose

[soft hull]

im putting my name in caps

because for some reason

i keep getting me and thistle cat mixed up

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[violet wigeon]

Art skills don't mean anything anymore

[soft hull]

ikr

at least music is pure

[rocky burrow]

LOL same

[soft hull]

for now...

[violet wigeon]

Like my pfp too is generated

[clear wave]

It's not about art skills, it's that the notion that creativity is a human-select skill is being challenged.

[violet wigeon]

They are starting on it

[rocky burrow]

Look at OpenAi jukebox

[soft hull]

jukebox sucks in terms of actually using it

[clear wave]

If DALL-E were just good at art but not creative, it'd be fine. But DALL-E seems creative as well.

[glad saffron]

It can't beat human skills tho

[rocky burrow]

So did Dalle last year

[glad saffron]

If you give humans enough time

[fervent dome]

That’s a nice generation!

[zenith crater]

how do you use jukebox?

[rocky burrow]

It’s been a year since we have heard anything about it

[soft hull]

yeah now we have dalle2

[clear wave]

I spent a token on this

[rocky burrow]

Jukebox 2 isn’t far away I’m sure

[clear wave]

Controversy is art.

[soft hull]

i dont like the name 'jukebox' i hope they change it musenet was cooler

[rocky burrow]

GTP4 is supposed to release sometime soon as well

[fervent dome]

I was talking about that the other day. It’ll be music next.

[violet wigeon]

Soon we won't have a world where humans matter we will all be poor

[zenith crater]

musenet sounds gross btw...

[soft hull]

anything is art, it's in the eye of the beholder, doesn't mean that it's worth viewing as such

sorry lucas

i will now sue myself

[rocky burrow]

Become a programmer :) join us on the journey to the future

[violet wigeon]

Nope. Ai generated code using AI generated assets

I'm at the dentist too

[wary egret]

I’ve got 13k and barely get any sales, would feel guilty using dalle to sell an NFT

[rocky burrow]

Im a software engineer right now and use Github copilot just fine! Its good but not perfect :)

[wary egret]

Stay stronk

[rocky burrow]

But you may not have a crypto-loyal army like Claire does

[wary prairie]

Check out jukebox. It isn't there yet but then look at where ai art was a year back

[wary egret]

I’m crypto tweeter guy but no loyals Lul

[stone spruce]

Currently using dall-e to make some logos for clients 🤝

[soft hull]

i've seen it trust me

[violet wigeon]

They are working on better versions

[soft hull]

skill issue i'm afraid

[clear wave]

I use Copilot only because the VSCode product team lead told me to try, but now I cannot go back

[violet wigeon]

Is it worth it being a human anymore

[clear wave]

It's crazy good

[elfin forge]

Oh noo...

I hate the new credits thing...

[clear wave]

Go read 'existentialism is a humanism` by Sartre

[wary egret]

Moar like Marketing issue Lul

[clear wave]

Genuinly a good read.

[rocky burrow]

People were happy with plowing fields and having tasteless food back in the day, is there really anything to be upset about with new beautiful access to art?

[soft hull]

Human artists will always be chad over AI artists to me

[clear wave]

Can you support that view with arguments?

[rocky burrow]

Until you cant tell who is actually making the art

[clear wave]

Apart from 'it's more real'

[violet wigeon]

Dude we won't have jobs

[silver hazel]

Today we truly enter the age of AI artists

[wary egret]

Tbh I’ve lost interest in art since dalle

[fiery scarab]

Guys sorry to interrupt the conversation, but just read the mail, is it 50 credits a month from today ?

[violet wigeon]

Same

[soft hull]

it's literally an opinion dumbass

[violet wigeon]

Our entertainment industry will go to shambles

[clear wave]

lmao, I didn't mean offense, I was genuinely curious

[violet wigeon]

Who will make the money? The World Economic Forum and the CCP

[soft hull]

wtfs with the thumbs down emoji are you collectively ratioing me

[fervent dome]

I read it was 15 unless I misunderstood

[rocky burrow]

Universal basic income will come into play likely, do you really want a boring job like painting cars or roofing houses? No, robots are much more suited for those boring laborous jobs

[clear wave]

Your reaction was a bit 'different' lmao

We were trying to have a genuine conversation man, no offense meant

[soft hull]

i said an opinion and you were like 'ok can you back it up'?

[wary egret]

Yep now all it takes is a single line of words and you can create a masterpiece that would have taken years of experience to create. Art is no longer an expertise

[elfin forge]

Can anyone tell me the number of credits given for 15$?

[violet wigeon]

My friend still can't access dalle2 I thought it was public

[fiery scarab]

50 for first access and 15/month my bad.

[soft hull]

like no i cant i'm literally just saying i would rather pay someone to make art than ai made art

[scenic linden]

audio is very high dimensional that's why people doesn't just draw an audio you need a synthesizer well there are ai synthesizer

[silver hazel]

115

[fiery scarab]

115

[rocky burrow]

Its not public

[elfin forge]

Thank you all.

[rocky burrow]

just in beta now

[clear wave]

That means ~13ct/credit

[fervent dome]

All good!

[clear wave]

quick mafs

[soft hull]

there are waveforms and spectograms, if you use waveforms then it just needs to learn how to convert that into a spectogram so it's better just using spectograms

[stuck nebula]

as someone who's worked on generative audio models, music is much harder... i would say it's at where ai art was 5 years ago

[fiery scarab]

50/day 🙈 wasn't enough, survival with 15/month is going to be hard, obviously unless we sheel some money out. But free was good. 😝

[clear wave]

Is it just because the 'space' is much less well defined?

an image is e.g. 244x244x3 channels, but audio much less so?

[violet wigeon]

Next year: AI uncensored video taken from every p0rñ website

[rocky burrow]

There is no shortage of demand for AI generated NSFW content, the market wants it, someone will make it

[violet wigeon]

Let me guess: all ones featuring anime is underaged? Is this the new world we will live in and make our kids consume?

[clear wave]

wasn't that how many breakthroughs in the field happened?

[violet wigeon]

They are already banning the word groomer

[soft hull]

people who like underaged anime characters don't deserve to have their opinions listened to anyways

[clear wave]

The research I worked on used technology used to track faces on the edge efficiently in china, felt weird to cite them lmao

[violet wigeon]

Someone will make it we are living in awful times

[soft hull]

if i see a single person say "uhm well underaged anime characters is fine" my arteries will shrivel up

[keen zealot]

Can I just add dalle picture on superrare or?

[rocky burrow]

There will always be terrible things in this world, people thought the piano would ruin music and that books were bad for you, then they thought that TV would melt your brain and the radio was bad for you. History is always changing its definition of whats bad for everyone

[keen zealot]

I need to complete something

[loud steeple]

Cute really means it looks like a child

[rocky burrow]

There is probably a listing fee, but yes, you can just list it

[violet wigeon]

Think of how much garbage is on the clean web if any AI sweeps that up we are going to see 30% of the AI video generations being underaged wtf

[loud steeple]

Anime makes things rly cute

Idiot westerners take that as child sexualisation

[wary prairie]

Makes sense. Image processing with ai has been a thing for so long

[keen zealot]

Is it hard to get some bids?

[soft hull]

oh my god shut up i literally am referring to anime characters that are explicitly intended to be children

[rocky burrow]

Just depends if you have an audience you can sell it to. Claire has one, thts the only reason hers is getting bids

[keen zealot]

Oh

[scenic linden]

yeah still hard to generate spectogram beyond few seconds of audio but google made NSynth https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/sound-maker/view/ and it's cool

[violet wigeon]

Japan would be the first one to make it

[rocky burrow]

People dont generally care about the art, they care if they can make a profit and who it was made by

[loud steeple]

Which anime children are sexualised?

[keen zealot]

True, true!

[soft hull]

a bunch? i don't know any in specific? 😭

[stuck nebula]

yes, in a way - music depends on time and modeling long-range dependencies over time is a big challenge
for example AI can't understand repeating melodies

[soft hull]

why are we even arguing about htis?

[loud steeple]

🤔

Wot

[violet wigeon]

Everything that comes out of japan

[loud steeple]

It saying in Japan it's legal to have underaged kids sexualised

In media

Ur saying*

[soft hull]

and how is that a good thing

[loud steeple]

I'm asking

Is that what use saying

Ur*

[soft hull]

i'm not saying that

maybe the other guy is

[violet wigeon]

wrighter is a lolicon

[soft hull]

ew

[silver fable]

20000 year old wizard in a 10 year olds body

[loud steeple]

Lol ok I'm not listening to convo

I just came

[rocky burrow]

Lets keep this convo SFW and on topic please

[elfin forge]

Is this credits thing gonna be forever?

[hollow owl]

What is this new credit system? And are we able to sell the art created on here and profit from it?

[violet wigeon]

Rimuru is so cringe

[silver hazel]

Hey guys, can you take the anime conversation to #off-topic

Sorry to be a Karen 😔

[stuck nebula]

or just take it nowhere and leave chat

🙏

[rocky burrow]

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6399305-how-dall-e-credits-work

Yes you can sell them

[violet wigeon]

If you're working in the entertainment industry I would leave now

[fringe gale]

Very expensive. Because you always need some generations just for adjusting little details.

[rocky burrow]

yes

[fringe gale]

There should be an unlimited subscription

[elfin forge]

They just ruined the app.. well done

[grand onyx]

They need monthly subscriptions for sure

[hollow owl]

I read that from the site. Thanks. Was looking for a bit more info

[silver fable]

They should just run ads and make it free

[rocky burrow]

Thats not how compute time works, it costs resources to run each generation, they cant just let people use endless computing power for a flat fee

[scarlet maple]

Damn I shoulda used this way more before it went paid.

[grand onyx]

Obviously they need to make money, but $15 for only 115 seems crazy

[scarlet maple]

15 a month is basically 0

[soft hull]

put the computer in a singularity

[fringe gale]

Mj can 🤔

[scarlet maple]

Half a generation a day lmao

[hollow owl]

Midjourney fast and relaxed mode....

[soft hull]

wrong emoji LOL

[elfin forge]

Or you can calculate how many times someone generates per month and make the price higher than the energy cost???????

What logic is this

[grand onyx]

I wouldnt mind watching an ad to get like 5 prompts if its that expensive

[rocky burrow]

Just because they currently are, does not mean that it is sustainable, many companies operate at a loss just to hopefully make money somewhere down the line

[stuck nebula]

capitalism

[clear wave]

Doesnt RNN-type architectures fix that?

and e.g. using sliding window approaches

[soft hull]

i eat recurrent neural networks

[fringe gale]

So you exactly know the numbers

[soft hull]

tasty

yes

[fringe gale]

Openai got 1b from Microsoft

[soft hull]

you know what's tastier than rnns

generative adversarial networks

[loud steeple]

When

[soft hull]

mm i love crunching on those determiners

[grand onyx]

dang I havent been using it very much the next month and now I wish I took advantage of it more before now

[stuck nebula]

RNN is just a way to help deal with temporal data, patterns over long ranges are still difficult to get

[wary prairie]

Even colab works similarly. You get a fast GPU if you don't use it that often. You get slower ones if you use frequently

[hollow owl]

I only got it a few days ago. Wish I had more free usage before this

[lethal hatch]

I only got it a few days before they made it paid 😔

[loud steeple]

Don't worry, these tools will only get cheaper

[clear wave]

Right, but things like an LSTM + skip connections + sliding windows can definitely get temporal context across ?

[forest turtle]

Same =/

[rocky burrow]

Im not sure what your question is, if a generation COSTS Openai 10 cents to run and they sell a 15$ a month subscription for unlimited generations, there will be thousands of users who run 1500 prompts a day and that COSTS openai more than 15$ a month to maintain

[loud steeple]

Exactly yeah

Supply and demand

[grand onyx]

We dont know how expensive it is for them to run a prompt though

[loud steeple]

They are doing it the most sensible they can

It's a delicate balance

[forest turtle]

I wasn't that impressed with the prompts. It took several iterations before getting it right.

[wary egret]

Why am I more sad about the future of art now that tools like dalle exists?

Shouldn’t this be the opposite?

[rocky burrow]

OpenAI has costs just like we do, they are passing those costs off to us and making a bit of a markup as well, with time and competition, the price will coem down

[silver fable]

They do though

[forest turtle]

A lot of the prompts had weird artifacts and had to constantly iterate before finding the right one.

If I'm going to be charged for that... no thanks.

[elfin forge]

This new update is horrible..

[hollow owl]

How much will it cost for how many credits?

[rocky burrow]

Great results can come once you start getting the verbiage correct

[grand onyx]

$15 for 115

[brazen sierra]

you can download an image you like with weird artifacts, upload it, erase out the artifacts, and tell it to regenerate those areas to fix it

[hollow owl]

Gotcha

[lethal hatch]

What about something like 60 free credits a month and paid commercial use?

[rocky burrow]

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6399305-how-dall-e-credits-work

[silver fable]

They should just run ads

[hollow owl]

And is it one spent per iteration?

[rocky burrow]

Correct

[lethal hatch]

People would use ad blockers if they did

[elfin forge]

Yes

[wary prairie]

Compute time costs depends on running time. How can calculate cost per prompt?

[silver fable]

Your point?

[stone spruce]

Then make it so you can't run the site with an adblocker active

[rocky burrow]

Im not sure I understand your question

[calm parcel]

i just want to point out that OpenAI is going to end up getting all of my money

[hollow owl]

Doesn't say price there, fam. Thanks tho.

[calm parcel]

I find something cool and I'm just like "generate...... generate..... generate.... generate..."

lol

[silver hazel]

Guys, we have GPT-3 (text) and DALL-E (visual).

What type of AI is next in your opinion?

[brazen sierra]

people who get good at prompting will be able to use it more efficiently

[rocky burrow]

one prompt generates 4 photos, they have an approximation for how much compute time it takes to generate those 4 images. Those are the costs that they are building into the credit model

[brazen sierra]

enter a prompt and it generates a full 2 hour movie for you 🙂

[silver hazel]

Music AI?

[clear wave]

That all exists

[forest turtle]

Prompted movie AI is next, for sure

[clear wave]

One of the next 'big' AI is what e.g. NVIDIA and Apple are working on

[brazen sierra]

prompt: 'an inspirational sci fi about a cute bunny that goes into space and makes friends with sentient trees, 2 hour movie, groundbreaking visual effects'

[rocky burrow]

Video AI is already starting: https://twitter.com/_akhaliq/status/1548353372855488512?s=21

AK (@_akhaliq)

CogVideo Demo and Models released
demo: https://t.co/Ynm7qMk8H9
models: https://t.co/1JuOHTPO5C

Likes

185

Twitter · Jul 16, 2022, 5:06 PM

[silver fable]

Wait if I'm paying for it now can I make NSFW content?

[clear wave]

generating proper 3d meshes from 2d images, it's getting really close to getting good

[rocky burrow]

No

[scenic linden]

i eat transformer attention is all you need https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762

[clear wave]

That means you have like a reverse DALLE- effect

[stuck nebula]

yes they can definitely help but are nowhere near enough for music
for speech, conventional methods are working well bc features are much shallower

[dim hedge]

laion is working on CLAP, an audio dataset so id say that

[clear wave]

Right, makes sense.

[scenic linden]

say hello to musenet https://openai.com/blog/musenet/

[wary prairie]

This is still expensive. We wouldn't mind longer wait times and job waitlists if it meant cheaper pricing

[clear wave]

This is what some Dutch startups have been working on, and NVIDIA is getting close but for e.g. generating 3d cars. Being able to quickly generate 3d meshes + accurate textures from 2d pictures is going to be a game changer.

[leaden plinth]

one that gives life to the images and 360 movement, something super realistic like being immersed in the image 😁

[cunning copper]

ur gay bro what you mean

[brazen sierra]

you have as much as you're willing to pay 13 cents each for

[rocky burrow]

Longer wait times still end up costing the same amount of compute time, Midjourney's "speed" option is just another revenue source by making some people wait for their prompts

[clear wave]

Wrong reply I think, but good point

[stuck nebula]

https://openai.com/blog/jukebox/

[rocky burrow]

yea my bad lol

[brazen sierra]

i don't think jukebox can make catchy music at same level as real songs yet

[clear wave]

That's the spirit.

[stuck nebula]

^

[clear wave]

Jukebox is 2 years old, remember DALL-E 1 v.s. DALL-E 2?

[rocky burrow]

People said the same thing about GTP text and Dalle

[scenic linden]

no one uses gan anymore it's all diffusion and transformers now

[brazen sierra]

need a jukebox 2 or 3 with big quality jumps

[stuck nebula]

not exactly...

[silver hazel]

Can you see music AIs taking a deep dive in human psychology to create musical patterns that hit the perfect spot of our dopamine receptors

[stuck nebula]

chances are psychology won't be involved

[clear wave]

Lmao that hits hard

[silver fable]

For 15 cents a generation it might

[rocky burrow]

Music AI will open the doors for a whole new "Personalized" playlist option, people will specifically follow creators who create music which fits them very well

[silver hazel]

TikTok

[clear wave]

AI-Generated music to eat your 'home grown mushrooms' on

[stuck nebula]

lmao

[stuck nebula]

already exists

[brazen sierra]

in the future when Taylor Swift is thinking about what song to write next, she can go to jukebox and prompt 'New hit song from Taylor Swift about her life' and just take one of those 🙂

[clear wave]

This is just a recommender system

[rocky burrow]

Did someone say mushrooms?

[civic wadi]

Disco Diffusions video AI / ability create VR environments is wild! Not nearly as refined as DALLE, but the tech is all there! The VR stuff it can make it really next level

[wary prairie]

I don't think that's how it works. Google colab has tiers of GPUs. Better ones for more expensive subscription tiers. Also if you use it very frequently then you would be bumped to lower powered GPUs

[scenic linden]

that they just stacked 3 transformers together and it's incredibly slow

[clear wave]

These systems are quite old, the 'original' internet story is e.g. this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netflix_Prize... quite an interesting read

[brazen sierra]

$15 at a time

[rocky burrow]

A calculation that is run at 10% speed for 10 hours and one run at 100% speed in 1 hour still cost the same

[clear wave]

It's called motor racing.

Wait, wrong discord

[zenith crater]

can it make charli xcx type beats

[scenic linden]

except using the discriminator adding VQGAN loss

[stuck nebula]

ok but either way, im saying it's still difficult rn to generate convincing music (but it will in a few years)

[violet wigeon]

AI will be able to crack human psychology soon there will be a formula in advertising soon that will force our brains to follow it (you thought that clickbait titles were bad)

[rocky burrow]

Indeed! Many companies are trying to find that exact formula

[clear wave]

Hey Alexa, what is free will?

[loud steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316574458662092800/999406123838885908/unknown.png?size=4096

surprise midjourney announcement

[scarlet maple]

You really hate to see it though.

[loud steeple]

did anyone post it already?

[violet wigeon]

Imagine Alexa with GPT4

[wary prairie]

A calculation run on tesla k80 and a tesla p100 would take different times. But k80 is cheaper because older hardware and takes a bit more time

[soft hull]

gpt 4 will be so fucking awesome

[night bough]

this was like 3 days ago, wasn't it

[soft hull]

oh my god!

[loud steeple]

was it?

[violet wigeon]

But it's like a 3D avatar of an anime girl because these perverts up in the AI field like that kinda stuff

[soft hull]

imagine the html capability it will have

[soft hull]

🤢

[soft hull]

based

[dim hedge]

gpt3 can already make some html decently

[loud steeple]

wow, sorry, it is

[silver hazel]

I’m honestly not ready for the new VR/AR era humanity is slowly heading towards to 😔

[dim hedge]

short functions and stuff

[violet wigeon]

World Economic Forum's plan

[scenic linden]

hmm yeah you can't just draw audio raw audio is very high dimensional

[soft hull]

yeah

[violet wigeon]

Everything will be virtual but how will we feed ourselves? Well we can you know.. auto pilot ourselves to the nearest mcdonalds RIP SMALL BUSINESSES

[soft hull]

i eat nfts now

[scenic linden]

try it yourself there is a demo on the website

[soft hull]

virtualization

[rocky burrow]

@violet wigeon robotic vertical farms are the future of feeding people

An automated warehouse which picks and replants food that can grow 24/7

can be put in any major city in a warehouse

its the future

[violet wigeon]

This is why they are making rural areas even worse... Because their economic system will not work with theirs. We will be sent from small towns to huge plantations or possibly to other countries to harvest food

[rocky burrow]

Not necessarily, vertical farms can fit in any size space, even in a shipping container

[violet wigeon]

Can someone please do a 9/11 at the OpenAI headquarters?

[rocky burrow]

you can have your own 24/7 farm

[wary egret]

https://twitter.com/kokokonft/status/1549833061793075200?s=21&t=X0vJb75F1DvRuMoNg3VX3Q

kokoko (@kokokoNFT)

Dalle-2 opens up for commercial use and then starts giving results like these:

Twitter · Jul 20, 2022, 7:06 PM

[violet wigeon]

Expensive

[rocky burrow]

Lets not talk like this

[violet wigeon]

Use my modifiers list u/haaaaven

[wary egret]

Lol yea yea thought it was funny though

[violet wigeon]

On reddit

[wary egret]

I’ve got that super guide too

[violet wigeon]

Nice!

[wary egret]

Let me find it

[scarlet maple]

Deserved tbh, cryptobro

[hoary leaf]

I think DALLE is too experimental to be expensive even when being overly verbose sometimes I didn't get what I wanted, but that just me.

[fiery reef]

@wary egret 3 eyes BTW

[obtuse zealot]

I agree, unless users are guaranteed to get optimal results every time per generation, it’s too much money

[wary egret]

I am forever cryptobro

Also found the pdf thing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344733072526147584/998433261913124976/The-DALLE-2-prompt-book.pdf

[buoyant wave]

you literally pay for credits you don't know you will use

because dalle is unexpected

you could generate a prompt gen be like oh yeah i forgot to add some things

[wary egret]

Still haven’t gone through it but it lewks like gewd resource

[buoyant wave]

boom one credit lost

[obtuse zealot]

Yep big sad

[wary egret]

Ye now you hesitate when making a prompt

[night bough]

i was already hesitating when making a prompt because of the 50/day limit

[hollow owl]

Same

[obtuse zealot]

I haven’t touched DALL e since the announcement came out 😂

[scarlet maple]

Reducing it to lowish double digits a day would be more reasonable

[hollow owl]

Experimental phase is gone

[scarlet maple]

but 15/month is fuck and all

[cerulean coral]

the 50/month is real sad, literally cut out 30/31 (month dependent on m-1/m ; m=date.month()) of previous quota

[uneven sail]

so like now, everyone can just log in, buy credits, ppl don't need to wait to get in anymore?

[cerulean coral]

oh, yeah, damn, it's 15

[buoyant wave]

50/month ?????

you wish

[hollow owl]

It's 15 after the first month fam

[violet wigeon]

wait you get 50 credits per account so just make new accounts

[cerulean coral]

ye, just remembered that too, this sucks

[hollow owl]

Yeah, welcome to the age of google voice numbers

[brazen sierra]

i'm surprised they don't do bundles.

Like 99 cents for 100 credits, you can buy this one time.
$5 for 25 credits (20 cents each)
$15 for 115 credits (13 cents each)
$50 for 500 credits (10 cents each)

[violet wigeon]

openai are stupid thats why

[wary egret]

Nah they’re geniuses

[violet wigeon]

the AI they make are smarter than their pricing team

[buoyant wave]

the dalle community will kinda die though

people won't really do requests anymore

[cerulean coral]

They stated on their previous post that they will try various subscription models for now. The current one is their base, give them time

[scarlet maple]

Well now I suppose we wait for the google 20 billion variation text to image generation AI to be open to the public.

[violet wigeon]

tearsies

[cerulean coral]

On the other hand, the monthly limit tho...

[scarlet maple]

20x more than Dalle as far as I'm aware lulw

[buoyant wave]

lol you know they will make it public

just to steal dalle spotlight

you'll see

that's how google ia

is

but then google will monetize it too

[violet wigeon]

google is savage

[brazen sierra]

google going to use your prompts to figure out what to advertise to you in google search, so if you tell it to draw weird stuff, get ready for some weird ads

[buoyant wave]

but google will have some good ass deals

[violet wigeon]

on discord it says "Several people are typing" but how do we know if its people anymore

[stone spruce]

Google can afford to monetize it at a lower rate though since they're one of the largest companies in tech

[scarlet maple]

ngl I'd be fine with google scraping my generations to sell me stuff (I have an adblock anyway lulw)

[cerulean coral]

just let 'em burn each other till open source folks perfect their own, and happy ending (if you have the resource to train them tho)

[scarlet maple]

Yeah the problem is I don't have a petabyte of storage lying around

or multiple 3090's

[cerulean coral]

open source pre-trained model is a thing, no?

[buoyant wave]

larger the company = bigger the costs
openai could make it cheaper if they wanted to, lol

[stone spruce]

You don't?

Why not

[buoyant wave]

dalle mini is free, unlimited lol

[night bough]

if google images doesn't have a good result for what you search it could just make one up

[scarlet maple]

cryptofucks stole them all to ruin the environment to make their dumbass coins

[stone spruce]

Google will likely mark it as a business expense if they lose money

[cerulean coral]

craiyon, you'll get sued with that name, here's their nest /s

[buoyant wave]

i'll get sued for saying a name ?

[wary prairie]

Btw. Stable diffusion looks pretty interesting and is open source. Is not out for public yet. But #stablediffusion on twitter has some pretty amazing results

[buoyant wave]

then bring my money cause the other party is losing

[elfin forge]

Please bring back free dalle..

[scarlet maple]

You should be happy with your half a prompt a day! Peasant!

😩

[violet wigeon]

The word Mafia is banned now

[fiery crow]

I only got access yesterday 😭

[unborn agate]

Sad day to join this server. 😦

Hi everyone!

[zenith crater]

hi!

[violet wigeon]

hi

[zenith crater]

hi

[unborn agate]

Hi

[violet wigeon]

not a good day to say Hi! just normal hi

[unborn agate]

lol

[obtuse zealot]

Hi

[stone spruce]

howdy

[zenith crater]

Hello! 😍

[violet wigeon]

you cant say mafia i tried this

[stone spruce]

this belongs in #cursed-generations

for sure

lol

[violet wigeon]

xd

[wary prairie]

Can you send full sized images pls

[silver hazel]

#998607250488840222 for peeps willing to spare a prompt in this tough economy 🙏

[violet wigeon]

sure

https://labs.openai.com/s/ElGfavkl6JTKnI4t81t63PKt

https://labs.openai.com/s/GThbnvoQpLoy5TXl5kmWbjkk

https://labs.openai.com/s/3xbWjFr1K8pqMPUiR6AqPkLd

this is too cursed

[wary prairie]

Why is the red guy wearing purple's pants?

[violet wigeon]

Idk XD

I am not going to generate anymore

fuck maybe one more

[stone spruce]

Good idea, gotta save them for tomorrow

[violet wigeon]

someone give me a suggestion

[wary prairie]

Teletubbies in a 2000s style boy band music video?

[stone spruce]

T-Sync

[loud steeple]

@rocky burrow thx so much for the chibi prompts, got some rly beautiful results, will send tomorrow ^^

[wary prairie]

Kek

[violet wigeon]

send

[loud steeple]

and finally 2d illustration style but beautiful

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/996798306581741689/999410352309678151/image0.jpg?size=4096

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/996798306581741689/999412646413619351/Screenshot_20220720-232854_Kiwi_Browser.jpg?size=4096

[loud steeple]

🔥 🔥 🔥

littt

[rocky burrow]

please do!

[loud steeple]

yeah gotta sort them out and stuff

[drowsy elm]

I wonder what happens when I type "Super Mario Bruh" into DALLE

[loud steeple]

lmk if u have more tips for 2d illustration style specifically!

[drowsy elm]

But I don't want to waste my prompts now

[violet wigeon]

I have a reddit post about them

[loud steeple]

like loicvdb/loish

or smth like that

[rocky burrow]

the cinematic lighting looks so good with the digital drawings, glad youre getting such good results too!

[violet wigeon]

go to r/haaaaven

I have 150+ 2D prompt modifiers

[loud steeple]

🤔

that anime modifiers reddit post?

https://www.reddit.com/user/haaaaven/comments/w05f56/massive_dalle_2_anime_keywords_modifiers_list/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[violet wigeon]

yup

I made that

[loud steeple]

oh yeah, these are great

[cerulean coral]

those are gorgeous

[loud steeple]

i remember you contacted me yesterday

[dusky leaf]

Anyone found a good workflow to make the DALL-E crop zoom animation ?

[loud steeple]

i wanted to thank you!

used them today

for sure made a big impact

i will send you the comparisons i did tomorrow

[violet wigeon]

thankie

[rocky burrow]

https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1iEDlIS6YSz7wm4uF0LFhfR36GkvRzP5M?usp=sharing

[violet wigeon]

I feel like generating more even tho I am going to waste them all

[rocky burrow]

Working on refining the workflow

[loud steeple]

do u have any ideas for loicvdb/loish type stuff? 🤔

strong 2d illustrative shapes

flowing

but respecting the 3d shape beautifully

and super nice colours

[violet wigeon]

nopey :(

[loud steeple]

aw, fair enough

[dusky leaf]

King 🔥

[violet wigeon]

I am not too knowledgeable in that stuf

[loud steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422742026694688779/999344055026716672/unknown.png?size=4096

oh i outpainted this

actual digital painting which i did a couple of months ago

that was fun

[violet wigeon]

better than my dalle2 lol

[cerulean coral]

I just starting to read your reddit post, and I regret not reading this before this credit fiasco. Thank YOU!

[loud steeple]

a bit of a fail with the characters

[rocky burrow]

Heres my favoriate outpaint ive done

got the last image first and put him in the top right

[violet wigeon]

send ur results thankie

[soft hull]

Do dallyers, how's it going? Any updates?

[loud steeple]

still no amogus in dalle2

😩

but that's it really

[violet wigeon]

nope

wait

[violet wigeon]

they made this look good

[loud steeple]

who made what look good?

[violet wigeon]

u

[loud steeple]

😳

[violet wigeon]

How do you upload NFTs I want to afford dalle2

[mental shale]

If I’m using an image of commercial use am I allowed to crop out the watermark?

[rocky burrow]

Yes

[loud steeple]

yes

[mental shale]

Ok thanks

[violet wigeon]

you can outpaint it to expand

How do I upload nfts btw

[loud steeple]

how... do u upload

upload where?

[violet wigeon]

NFTs on uhh the NFT website?

[loud steeple]

ehm, firstly, use tezos

[violet wigeon]

Ima bout to generate the best art on earth just wait

[loud steeple]

acquire tezos

[violet wigeon]

tezos?

[loud steeple]

then find marketplace

[rocky burrow]

@violet wigeon https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+sell+nfts

[loud steeple]

tezos is a good cryptocurrency with cheap and fast transactions

don't use ethereum

it's lame

tezos is used massively for NFTs

[rocky burrow]

Most people hold and use ETH and Solana for NFTs

[violet wigeon]

does openai accept tezos xd

[loud steeple]

google how to get cryptocurrency where u live

in your country

get it

then convert into tezos

go to NFT tezos site

and "mint" NFT

bam

you're done

[violet wigeon]

So I can just upload pictures XD and people will buy them

[loud steeple]

nah, not really

well

[violet wigeon]

rip

[loud steeple]

i know people who sell stuff

actual artists

and many programmer artists

who made code art

code art has the most traffic

as in people support each other monetarily

[ruby relic]

heyyo yall

[loud steeple]

but... the other markets are weird

[violet wigeon]

I am going to lie and say its not ai generated

[ruby relic]

idk how to feel about credits hehe

[loud steeple]

it's just hard

there's too many people

[violet wigeon]

rip

[scarlet maple]

In general you will not make money in NFTs unless someone uses your collection to launder money

[loud steeple]

well... d: that's the incoming issue the next couple of years

[violet wigeon]

no way I can afford dalle2 we are doomed the NFT people will win

[loud steeple]

it's gonna be a crazy few years

[scarlet maple]

or you're already rich and/or famous

[violet wigeon]

You would never think that the NFT people could win...

[loud steeple]

i know people who make a lot of money

from actual purchaces

one is a graphic designer

[vagrant crow]

it's designed for companies, same as GPT3

[loud steeple]

the other painter and designer

[scarlet maple]

exceptions don't make the rule

[loud steeple]

there's also coder artists which i know

who make really good money

but that's about it

really those are the nieches

[vagrant crow]

NFTs are just scams, they don't even come with the right to the art

[loud steeple]

the idea is that they don't come with the right

lol

[violet wigeon]

yea but I can use gpt3 for free using this website that doesnt leave a payment method for your free trial so unlimited free accounts

and it can generate erotica and stuff too its better than gpt3

The entertainment industry is doomed

btw

in 5 years

if ww3 doesnt happen ofc

[loud steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-gracious-dog-oh-my-goodness-gif-24115765

[violet wigeon]

here are my best generations using the method I made btw

[loud steeple]

full prompt?

[violet wigeon]

just use my method I give the prompts

and modify some things

if you want

[cerulean coral]

a credit well used, just for ya, thanks once again for that amazing writeup!

[violet wigeon]

^^

[loud steeple]

oh woooow

that's good, what prompt?

[violet wigeon]

Im going to try to generate something from Gosick

[loud steeple]

the chat is enslowed

[cerulean coral]

4K chibi of Patchouli Knowledge reading a book while sitting on gazebo using Safebooru, Animoe, konachan, Sankakucomplex Image Database, pixiv, gelbooru Image Database: Character: Patchouli Knowledge Tags: purple eyes, purple hair, relaxing, garden, gazebo, book, reading, chibi, kawaii. Quality: Best digital anime art

[loud steeple]

lol

wow that's a crazy one

isn't it a bit much? 🤔

[violet wigeon]

ima send u my results soon

[cerulean coral]

IDK, just following the reddit post really

[loud steeple]

i didn't read it xD
just copied keywords

[dim hedge]

@violet wigeon nice post, ill have to read it later when i get off work

[cerulean coral]

and it makes sense, since this is the way they trained the model, after all. Scraping the whole Internet left and right, choke feed the AI with all images they can find with all the text associated with it like how you make foie gras, and voila

[civic wadi]

Yes! That is a perfect place

[lone crystal]

I wonder if in the future we'll see a world where we have to prove that we made the art by having to provide original layered work

[loud steeple]

absolutely

that's actually an interesting proof!

i hadn't thought about it, but i think u nailed the method of detecting if it was ai generated

i just wonder why "anime art style" produces such inferior results compared to this stuff? 🤔