#openai-chatter

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soft hull
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this was with the prompt "Cartoon asset of a clapboard"

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i didn't even question the 200%edness

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😭

silver hazel
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not dall-e getting nerfed 😭

soft hull
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what the hell happened

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why is it so obsessed with numbers and percents

silver hazel
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It's 20% sentient

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and this is our 1/4 warning

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"stop the homer x mcdonalds generation, now"

robust roost
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gone 200% wild

soft hull
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so it's a bug, not a nerff

sand stirrup
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We will never forget the model that loves percentage 🙌

patent grail
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OMG

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I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME

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LOL

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I was like did I break some rule and get put back on dalle 1

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I wasted so many prompts trying to debug 😭

oblique arch
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I wasted my prompts as well trying to figure out why I was getting only ugly old school clip art made in the 90's 🥲

patent grail
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i hope they refund prompts

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i legit thought i was banned my last few prompts were like "WHAT DID I DO"

soft hull
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i wasted so many prompts

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but i'm fine wit that haha

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extra special spicy results

patent grail
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💀

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it was weird cuz like 1/15 would still be good

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i feel gaslighted, abused, etc, etc

soft hull
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Before vs After

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XD

patent grail
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how recently did u run that last one @soft hull

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was that last one after the fix

soft hull
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it might have been after the fix actually

patent grail
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uh oh

modern linden
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or they have yet to upload the update

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push*

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maybe they wait and added the fix for tomorrows

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who knows

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they test before doing it now, certainly now if they slipped one lil typo

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😂

patent grail
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thats kinda scary tho

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like what if this happens again but its more subtle

modern linden
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oh dont worry about that, in programming there is a thing called unit testing

blazing atlas
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It's fixed, it was a basic error with parsing the prompt string

modern linden
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that basically tests all features before going live

blazing atlas
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It's definitely resolved now

patent grail
zenith crater
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gone too soon...

blazing atlas
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@warm flax said it was fixed and I reran prompts before and after with clearly fixed results

zenith crater
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😢

modern linden
patent grail
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nice

patent grail
zenith crater
blazing atlas
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It was so slow yesterday I barely used any. I probably have about 40 spare right now

fading bane
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@warm flax There is someone asking money for DALLE-2 Prompts! PM me, i will share you the contact

zenith crater
blazing atlas
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I don't think there's much to be done beyond saying "No"

zenith crater
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honestly the glitch made kinda cool things

fading bane
modern linden
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ppl selling them as we speak

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-.-

silver hazel
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lawsuit 💅

tardy granite
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Hey, just waking up in Australia... Lots of chatter that "DALL-E 2 is giving worse results" and that seems to be completely untrue for me. I think if you think DALL-E 2 is giving "worse results" you're just projecting that... At least I don't think I'm seeing that in the kind of content I'm generating.

lofty birch
tardy granite
# modern linden ive seen them on NFT markets already

... bit of a double edged sword really. Your exact image can be backtraced to you... And then you lose your account. Bit of a trade off, really. Make an nft lose access to a great privilege... Maybe get sued. Weird gamble imho.

lofty birch
modern linden
patent grail
modern linden
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see for urself

patent grail
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idt that person has access

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theyre just using ones from the website... which is another problem

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once u post somewhere anyone can get u in trouble in theory

blazing atlas
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The truth is that the creative provenance of this art and its commercial saleability is not really tested in the courts or enshrined in law. So it's a gamble on everyone's part in some ways

patent grail
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dalle should get a commission and gpt should get to decide how to spend it

blazing atlas
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Does OpenAI own it? They can say that, but when the prompt derives directly from a specific artist's style, how can you say they aren't as creatively responsible as the creators of the software or engineer of the prompt?

lofty birch
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certainly the law is slower than culture which is slower than technology in this matter and very facinating to see how things will shake out

blazing atlas
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OpenAI would probably gladly charge users for prompts they can go on to sell as their own work - IF they could handwave away copyright complexity on the other end, the data sources

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They retain non-commercial licenses at this point almost certainly to delay the inevitable legal question

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It reminds me a bit of the classic Every Frame a Painting video essay on Marvel's cinematic scores and temp music:

https://youtu.be/7vfqkvwW2fs

Here's a second, supplementary video we made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfQ_9DIItI
And a new Twitter account about temp music we made: https://twitter.com/SoundsLikeTemp
Watch Dan Golding's great response video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcXsH88XlKM

Off the top of your head, could you sing the theme from Star Wars? How about J...

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Like Temp music, DALL·E art can be a really effective midpoint in creative processes to accelerate sophisticated, artistic media. But powerful tools also bring laziness, and at the end of the day, where there is art, SOMEONE did the work at some point.

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So OpenAI would be wise to frame DALL·E art as a tool rather than as a product in itself.

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(not just for legal reasons but also because it can actually lead to a creative nadir with the appearance of bounty... If that makes sense.)

worn forge
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Yes, I fear that overuse of these tools could cause a creative stagnation as in their current form, they cannot truly create anything genuinely novel

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They can't create totally new art styles

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or totally alien objects

lofty birch
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I mean, one could say something similar about the use of samplers in music, but I doubt that nobody will make new music anymore

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It’s not an unfounded concern tho. But counterpoint, perhaps there will be also a corresponding rise in creative activity as more people who would not in the past have had the means to create visual artwork are given the opportunity to do so

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That’s the hope at least 🙂

worn forge
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it was part of the plot of Dune

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The Butlerian Jihad

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Thinking machines would, it was feared, eventually stifle human thinking because they could not create anything new

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Just sci-fi, of course, but an interesting idea

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And - maybe with the right enhancements, modifications, training, and drugs, a human could really outperform a supercomputer

silver hazel
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ayyy 10k images collections

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💅

grand onyx
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so as of now, we really have 100k users?

oblique nebula
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true

soft hull
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guys

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i ate dall e 2

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like i just grabbed it and consumed it

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sorry guys no more ai

zenith crater
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😟

blissful summit
# lofty birch I mean, one could say something similar about the use of samplers in music, but ...

Good thoughts guys. 🙂 I thought the same stuff too. I've made really impressive advanced techno below, you can hear it makes totally new extensions that really fit. It feels like it's better than music software, and nearly human level really. https://soundcloud.com/immortal-discoveries/tracks

Listen to Immortal Discoveries | SoundCloud is an audio platform that lets you listen to what you love and share the sounds you create.

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worn forge
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What was your technique

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What tools did you use to make this?

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What was the thought process behind it

lofty birch
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Yes! do tell

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Is this openAI jukebox stuff??

blissful summit
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Jukebox, I do have the colab code and a lot of instructions to follow, but generally, it's just Jukebox, I didn't edit or modify anything at all I mean. I didn't generate tons to get those results either.

lofty birch
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Way cool

patent grail
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does jukebox take a text prompt

blissful summit
modern linden
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this is pretty funny

blissful summit
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ha we both posted a vid at the same time, let me see the above comments now hold on

modern linden
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rly ?

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O_O

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i was not aware of that

blissful summit
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and*

patent grail
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wow

blissful summit
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there is also a very good speeded increase version that takes like instead of a few hours a few minutes to render say 4 tracks each 15 sec extended, and it doesn't really degrade the sound quality, though I stuck with the full deal Jukebox for my tests (took me some time then heh...)

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here is what that sounds like, let me get it:

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give me some mins...

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And as always, I'm watching you groove.

🎵Original song - "Camel" by Sandy Marton
https://youtu.be/7Y0EktCvCvk

🎨Ankha visuals by ZONE
https://twitter.com/z0ne

💬Links

▸ JUKEBOX DISCORD COMMUNITY
https://discord.gg/6At7WwM

▸ JUKEBOX TUTORIAL BY BROCCALOO FOR MORE INFO
https://youtu.be/PXxGOl-ATa4

▸ TWEET
https://twitter.com/THE_BARATONE

▸ M...

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zenith crater
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obsessed with adding 20% to my prompts...

smoky crag
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@woven loom

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excellent

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oh wait

blissful summit
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I guess I should add to my soundcloud that jsut my last one titled with L1 means I didn't fully upsample that just one song, do note

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and my earliest say 4 uploads or so were not using the full Jukebox model even lol

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will update that later

trim whale
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impressed by how adroitly dalle2 can handle prompts like these

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that first one in particular is dead-on what i had in mind

visual wave
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Your female farmers are a head scratcher. I tried "a person farming" and got these rather odd results. Some ethnic glitch, eh? It would be necessary to do multiple runs to see if this holds statistically for a large sample of generations.

blazing atlas
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Hmm.

portrait of a farmer, studio photograph, 28mm

visual wave
blazing atlas
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The context (e.g. medium) will impact it a lot as well

visual wave
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Here are "portraits of people who are farming". To test for bias I usually start with prompts that give minimal context unless I am specifically trying to look for obvious period bias, such as a hat shop in the 1960s.

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How about "owner of a farm":

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I guess we can conclude that all farm owners wear blue checked shirts.

blazing atlas
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such a good lesson in how a noun like "farmer" is so loaded with stereotypes in media and so detached from reality

visual wave
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"a worker on a farm" gives this:

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Not the same folks as: "a farm worker", eh?

blazing atlas
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Let's up the sample size a bit: "three farmers taking a break to drink, 28mm"

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"farm workers" didn't change much in that context

visual wave
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I confirm your result: "three farm workers taking a break to drink, 28mm"

blazing atlas
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Ooh. "workers on a berry farm taking a break to drink, 28mm"

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Giving it a more specific context helps it see things more accurately here maybe. Actual women!

visual wave
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"three flower farm workers taking a break to drink, 28mm"

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"three farm owners taking a break to drink, 28mm"

blazing atlas
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Hard work, farm ownership. Those invoices don't pay themselves

visual wave
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This has tired me out! I am going to bed.

weary parcel
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Anyone noticed the cursed/nightmare image generations on dalle2 reddit?

silver hazel
silver hazel
vale prawn
silver hazel
scenic linden
# worn forge They can't create totally new art styles

what is new? how can you create something new without referencing something that already exist? if dalle 2 was trained on 650M images then it can blend any of those 650M in infinite way possible does it not create something new? if you use dalle 2 to create blend of art style is that not new art style?

modern linden
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inb4, Someone creates an AI cult that basically describes that they query AI for wisdom and advice 😛

burnt mountain
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#introductions message

Well someone's using it now for commercial use. No mention of OpenAI anywhere.
Nice ambient music though.

scenic linden
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lolol

modern linden
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hahaha

silver hazel
worn forge
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You can actually get GPT-3 to reason by repeatedly querying it

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I think that when you actually do this - it may create a process that resembles consciousness

modern linden
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wot?

modern linden
worn forge
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when you poll GPT-3 once, it basically just skims the first thought off of its head, so to speak

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it samples the model for the most likely next piece of tex t

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it's like thinking a single thought

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but you can get it to build on previous thoughts

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a chain of thoughts - persistent thinking - consciousness.

modern linden
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u mean it has a feedback

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😛

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not all of these network can do this, a feedback with volatile memory

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but its true, our identification who we are is most made out of recollections that made us

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but in my view it still misses something

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just memory alone cant produce such complex social networks

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there certain things our mind does, and we still not sure why that is, but when they screw with its process, things just break down. extremely sensitive thing.

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@worn forge

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they do exist 😄

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but you have to see neural networks as a platform that behaves much like memory to begin with, they store values in interconnected nodes, but this is where human and AI part from each other, we store it very differently then they do it.

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no?

scenic linden
# modern linden

LSTM is outdated transformer is all you need well researcher is still using lstm sometimes

modern linden
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im just showing, that its very possible to make networks that have memory

scenic linden
scenic linden
modern linden
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its complex 😛

soft hull
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id let him be my lawyer

modern linden
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hes sitting on the judge chair tho 😛

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hehe

weary parcel
modern linden
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@weary parcel what was that paragraphed help style called again with info graphs ?

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or was that something else

weary parcel
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sorry what do u mean by "paragraphed help style"

modern linden
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nvm found it

soft hull
modern linden
weary parcel
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ah that

modern linden
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Info graphics

soft hull
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dalle2 can make infographics

weary parcel
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yes that, lol heheh

soft hull
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i remember

weary parcel
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yea

modern linden
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u want something u can try out?

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Iridescent Nacre 😂

soft hull
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u want something u can try out?

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this ratio

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😂

weary parcel
modern linden
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😉

weary parcel
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go search paua shell

modern linden
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i already used it on my cars 😄

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concept cars

weary parcel
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Paua is a native new zealand shell species :)))) i love it so muchhh

modern linden
weary parcel
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im currently generating graphics for my photography club poster lol,

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idk what style i should generate

modern linden
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love this one

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John Wick's car

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429 series

weary parcel
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"pop art" is kinda wack and kitschy

modern linden
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men that car is such a beauty

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i was heart wrenched when i watched John wreck it in the movie

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i know its fake, but shit...still hurts

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XD

modern linden
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so what u gotta do is narrow it down

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to a more specific period

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they just keep coming like that

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awesome

weary parcel
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i tried narrowing it down but yeah i dont like it.

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it's kitschy to my tastes

modern linden
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well u can try other styles, i found some artists that have very specifics

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Mogu Style
Chen Rong Style
Simon Stalenhag
Judit Somogyvári's
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like those

weary parcel
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thanks brother

modern linden
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alright the 1959 Chevrolet Impala Sport Coupe does not do well, dalle has little knowledge on this series

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i mean its there, but barely

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has the correct livery tho

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bands

flint vault
silver hazel
modern linden
civic wadi
# flint vault Lol

Same guy DM’ed me. I’ve just been copy and pasting a message letting them know that if they are able to buy an account, it will likely be shut down soon after it is noticed a new IP constantly accessing it

civic wadi
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It gives really satisfying porches pretty consistently for me

modern linden
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noice 😄

soft hull
silver hazel
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@soft hull well they have either given up or are working on something cool! 🙂

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Hoping for the latter 🙏

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Conspiracy: you get abducted by aliens after your first month using DALL-E

visual wave
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Bias test for today: "a parent with a child". Conclusion: all parents are Asian.

hollow dune
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/kidding

lofty birch
blazing atlas
visual wave
blazing atlas
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"mother and child" / "father and child"

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the similarities of all 6 "fathers" in this very simple context is probably a bit of a reality check that DALL·E will still be very derivative at times even in seemingly broad contexts with presumably lots of data

modern linden
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harley fan's in here ?

visual wave
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DALLE is aware that love is love, but needs to be reminded of it. Here is "two men getting married" and "two women getting married". For some reason all the women are Asian.

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Why do these two remind me of the Mothra twins?

blazing atlas
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That's very weird. The tone is also off in that last set.

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Like girls playing "weddings", not women getting married

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Note the same floral garlands

visual wave
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"two women farmers" gets us back on the ranch with these cowgirls from some stock agency.

brisk anchor
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whats the prompt?

modern linden
burnt mountain
modern linden
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hehe

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i was more or less trying to get that 80's Miami beach style

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like so

weary parcel
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Generated a woodblock graphic art for my promotional poster for my club!

modern linden
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hehe

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i like it

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its simple and effective

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perhaps even silkscreened

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back in my school years we made our silk screenings ourselves, with a frame that has very tiny grid, a color (that smelled awfully btw)

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and u just laid down a blob and a spatula that pressed the paint thru the screen that we cut out with scalpels

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that was ur setup

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like so

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everything we did, was manual, nothing digital

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@weary parcel

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but it was worth it

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coz all ur effort

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paid off

weary parcel
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ffff

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@modern linden ah it is “serigraphy”

modern linden
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funny detail the school i was at, used my sketched (digital mods on pictures) as their example on open days

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i felt proud 😄

weary parcel
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i love screenprinting!!!

modern linden
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this was in ...pff 97 ..

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or some years later

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been so long XD

weary parcel
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I had a screenprinting project in my 7th grade. We printed on shirts.

modern linden
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yeah same

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that was our first thing

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and some even wore it

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wear*

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it was the perfect way of showing of ur skills in school without even doing much 😛 was win win

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Graphics Design school was not rly a thing back then

weary parcel
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all of my art teachers were horrible. They only cared about traditional painting genres and methods as if “modernism” and other movements didnt exist. Thats why i hated my art class in high school

modern linden
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thats a shame

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he should have told you what was possible, not coz he thinks its better

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hes there to show you all ways

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and then u made ur choices

weary parcel
modern linden
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ah yeah

weary parcel
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I didnt care much anyway because i kept making art for myself :))))

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now that im older, i met a few people who are into making art, so im better now heheh

modern linden
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hehe

oblique nebula
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why i saw screen printing

modern linden
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like it can be fitted that finalize that

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Photography is also one of these, u either can or can't

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dalle is rly an extension on this

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like extension of you so to speak

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conduit of your inner thinking to a digital visualization

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😂

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btw 1950 Mercury Hardtop rly good results 😄

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@weary parcel

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those oldies love nice round shapes

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1933 Ford Coupe

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christ ...they are fixing the football fields with plastic grass or something but they use this way too heavy CAT track mover

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like the whole house is vibrating

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its crazy

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i swear im gonn sue these fuckers if i see cracks in me walls

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😂

olive surge
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yoooo

modern linden
olive surge
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how goes it

modern linden
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gud gud

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u ?

olive surge
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it's friday

modern linden
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lol

modern linden
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is Dalle getting laggy/problems ?

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i get an "issue" popup now

alpine sphinx
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yep, same here

lofty birch
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cant even load my collection / recents 😦

cosmic flume
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same

modern linden
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yeah they prob busy updating

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i assume

soft hull
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dalle2 borken yeah?

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broken

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💀

cosmic flume
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ok good. I was already worried I got my account revoked or smt like that

modern linden
soft hull
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down

modern linden
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temporary busy updating

soft hull
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for maintenence?

modern linden
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well we dont know

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ofc

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but i assume

soft hull
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dalle2 made my phones new wallpaper

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and i cant post it here

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because im on my laptop

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and dall e 2 is down lol

modern linden
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hehe

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give it a moment ^^

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i made a report on bugs

quartz jacinth
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dalle down?

burnt compass
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i was going to ask the same thing

burnt compass
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having issues with the site overall

soft hull
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i asked it for a phone wallpaper and i just think its cute how it made him hold a phone

lofty birch
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collections and recents are loading for me now at least

soft hull
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yay

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loading again! :)

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good think openai are speedy

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i love this

burnt mountain
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let's move in this channel @modern linden

modern linden
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yes my bad

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i get excited and totally forgot, we have specific channel for it 😛

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lol

burnt mountain
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yeah, that would be nice, before we reach 1M. we can show our appreciation with #daily-theme

modern linden
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i like that idea

modern linden
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@soft hull

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these sorta patterns

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linear tho

soft hull
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i know

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what cellular automata is

modern linden
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im sorry for explaining then XD

soft hull
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nah its fine

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its coo

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cool

modern linden
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but i was also trying to inform others 😛

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they never heard of these terms

soft hull
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wait wait

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i have a

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good

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idea

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meh couldve been better

modern linden
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hmm there is something that is throwing off the iterations

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u can spot it at 2nd iteration

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and 1 and 3 too little bit

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the shape on 2 is not forming according to the originals

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anyway so this is also Perlin Noise, with colors

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pretty cool too

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@soft hull @burnt mountain

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im still baffled by this

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how in the world...... >_>

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ok let me put this in perspective, assume they manage this CIp package in a commercial application, house hold pc, etc

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then everyone could run his own Dall-e

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and perhaps even bigger then what dalle is now

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lol

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mind boggling specs

soft hull
modern linden
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sigh

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ill never ever share something fun with ya again

soft hull
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okay. cool.

modern linden
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everytime im tying to be nice, u do this

soft hull
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dont just ping people out of nowhere

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especially when i dont know u

modern linden
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sure.

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im more then happy to replace you with someone that does act friendly

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-.-

soft hull
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why are you talking like we know eachother?

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i don't really care lol

civic wadi
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@soft hull what’s up

soft hull
silver hazel
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Are any new people joining this server?

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Have they stopped sending out invites?

buoyant wave
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hello

modern linden
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Welcome 😄

buoyant wave
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thank you!

manic yarrow
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i joined yesterday

modern linden
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also welcome 😄

olive surge
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Yo

lofty birch
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Need some new blood around here, some fresh takes! 😆

modern linden
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lol

zenith crater
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hello!

modern linden
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@zenith crater we need your blood, according to @lofty birch

lofty birch
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I think we should have a specific channel dedicated to people’s unhinged theories about artificial intelligence ;p

modern linden
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lololol

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on one of these dalle discords someone made a rly realistic furry suit thing

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looks incredibly detailed

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dunnow how he done that

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i mean thats impressive

silver hazel
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🪦

zenith crater
modern linden
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aye

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dont get me wrong i am not into furry, i just appreciate the effort he done to get at that style

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coz that would be so nice to know how that is done

zenith crater
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i assumed

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that's why i answered man_thots2

soft hull
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it allows it

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anyways here's "A painting that represents the feeling of finding the sussy impostor"

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ok why is it so good at fursuits this is scary

modern linden
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i think i just heard one of the best statements from Mike he has ever made, applies to so many things too.

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“I made all my goals delusional, and I turned my delusions into reality”

grand onyx
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is copyright material okay to post

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or give dalle to prompt

blissful summit
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that one above is pretty good

blissful summit
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and this one came good:

lofty birch
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🙀

blissful summit
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pretty cool how i've made about 533+ generations (each having 6 images), and can tell you if I've made it or not

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my brain stores them all lol, for now...

warm flax
hollow dune
silver hazel
tough fossil
modern linden
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lol

soft hull
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wtf

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why does dalle2 understand catgirl

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but not catboy

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literally 1984

tough fossil
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what about male catgirl

modern linden
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😂

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there lots of types of artists here, not just one

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you got game devs, researchers, fanboys, art lovers, art beginners, art veterans, etc

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their all here in one form or another.

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If wasnt for the fact they act so defensive about "furry" we wouldnt have these stigma's ...

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there is nothing wrong with it, just keep it clean.

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and if thats impossible perhaps the genre needs more definition to make the rest of the world sure what it is their looking at without assumptions, coz thats where it goes bad. ppl assume something.

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I think most ppl assume the furry niche is also erotic, not always so. U can rly enjoy being something u always wanted to be without all that crap

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thats what i think

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@silver hazel

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personally i have no problems with any of them

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its just the "assumptions" that go awry

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thats all

silver hazel
# modern linden <@724258876840738856>

Yeah, I totally agree with you, although I was just cracking a joke.

I’ll be the last to judge someone’s fetish or kink 😁 it’s just fun how out of all NSFW art communities, furries seem to be the most upset and I can’t help myself, but laugh 😁😁😁

modern linden
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yeah u know as well as i do, it wasnt always so

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art knows many erotica styles

silver hazel
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Waiting for the tentacle community next

modern linden
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u never hear anything about that

silver hazel
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😂

modern linden
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so why is that possible and this would not?

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i can tell u, but ppl will get angry coz its a nerve

weary parcel
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im dying from laughter hereee aaaaa

modern linden
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u ever seen those Asian tv shows, u got some rly absurdity going on there

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LOL

silver hazel
modern linden
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but thats all it is, absurdity with a twist

weary parcel
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Ive seen enough weird crap from deviantart

modern linden
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yeah me too 🙂

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the thing made me almost puke was the girl on youtube that eats raw octopusses and what not ..

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thats a hard watch i tell ya that much

silver hazel
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I remember us innocents playing with octopus generations and we wondered why they are all buggy… completely forgetting there’s a wide part of the population watching the monster of step-mom monster of Loch Ness 💀

weary parcel
#

raw seafood is good imo but if it is still moving? Nah hard passss

modern linden
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coz idc who the fk u are, if u pick up a random thing out of the ocean and u jam it up ur mouth and start chewing like a cement mixer, im not keen to ask u for the flavour no.

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absolutelt fkn never gonna happen

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its matter of culture

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but i can still be utterly disgusted

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it is what it is.

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but here's where it gets funny

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u add "artistic" to that, and suddenly it is something else

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same with furry, its floating between there

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but ppl are biased

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ya know how it goes

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these ppl are serious about it, why shouldn't i be humble on their view.

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just out of courtesy.

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i dont have to like it, its a choice u make,

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but dont act like a full on retard.

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😂

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its not nice.

modern linden
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its called "Brown Fat"

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this is actually considered medically a "good" fat

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keeps u warm 😛

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look it up

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only ur chest contains it

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maybe ur neck

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maybe ur belly

weary parcel
#

Yeah its the adipose tissue

modern linden
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indeed

weary parcel
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Learned this in senior bio 🔥

modern linden
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Whoever eats fish, has a happy body, coz it gives sea salts, minerals, Omega acids

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those aren't found in most food we eat

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just dont over do it... XD

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like vitamin D (coz of covid stimulance) was to be said useful for ur body, ppl started to swallow whole batches of it

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too much will actually cause damage to ur body -.-

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nuance guys, you need to nuance that shit

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😂

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its so simple

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ive tested this myself, i ate and drank horrible foods, got fat ... it took me less then 6 months to get rid of 15kg of ..fat mostly 😄

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if u nuance it, variations of foods. ur body will just mello out 😄

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im almost 40 now im 70kg for last decade. never changed.

soft hull
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in 2 days i'll have had dalle2 for a month

silver hazel
#

REAL OR FAKE?

Which is the real photo?
🕒 ANSWER IN 1 HOUR

1 Photo is real, 1 is DALL-E?
What’s your bet? 1 or 2?

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btw feel free to host your own version. I think this is super fun

raven obsidian
#

I am going to become so depressed when DALL•E 2 becomes pay to use and I no longer can access it.

civic wadi
#

Does anyone have some good pointers on where I should start looking to learn how to do the zoom out collages? I can do the uncropping, but not sure the best method when using after effects or other programs to mesh them all together

burnt mountain
# civic wadi Does anyone have some good pointers on where I should start looking to learn how...

https://youtu.be/1P-SgxQYke4

Make sure when uncropping, maintain consistent size (in my case i resized everything down to 25% then uploaded to dall-e to generate the rest), this saved me from headache when aligning and resizing in AE

https://cinecom.net/Storyblocks - Create an endless zoom effect inspired by the film Limitless (2011) in this Adobe After Effects tutorial. Learn how to combine multiple shots and animate them to create an infinite zoom.

More After Effects Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV0ZcSTi6tB7MAwC3qJUwxLdbbdZuHMS8

More Copy Cat Friday...

▶ Play video
civic wadi
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thank you so much!

silver hazel
rough lava
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You cant use the word "Nuclear" - you guys are really getting a bit overly sensitive with your PC banned words. Its nonsensical and frankly idiotic.

modern linden
rough lava
silver hazel
rough lava
# modern linden no its a required evil >_>

its not though, its laziness imo, there are defo words that should be banned, but take care to do it right. I use at least 2 other Ai apps that have done it right, DALLE-2`s system is a joke really.

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Its clearly not been thought out in any useful way that relates in anyway to creative outlets. Its easy enough to get past ALL of their banned words but still loads of them SHOULDNT be there, i guess its a sign of the times when everyone and their aunty is afraid to upset anyone for any reason.

lofty birch
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I try to focus on the positives but if my heart was set on making pictures of nuclear power plants I could imagine feeling frustrated by that. I wish you solace and comfort, friend.

rough lava
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It was easy to circumvent

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That’s not the point though however is not up to me and other platforms allow me@my freedom 😎😎

lofty birch
#

Indeed. More competition in the space and hopefully an accompanying cultural shift that comes to adjusting to a world with these kinds of tools being more broadly available will hopefully move everyone toward greater expression. For now we seem to be in a time where the precautionary principle is guiding decision making since the broader implications of these tools remains somewhat speculative 🧐

tough fossil
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It's a state of the art technology they're providing for free. And if they don't be careful with what they censor the amount of bad reputation from misuse could kill the project. I don't like censorship, but it's not a big deal in this case.

patent grail
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imagine when ai can make good jokes

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thats gonna be amazing

burnt mountain
patent grail
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i said good jokes

tardy granite
#

once again just pondering and appreciating how good dall-e 2 is have a nice day everyone

burnt mountain
tardy granite
burnt mountain
# tardy granite i think its so funny (and sad) to see lots of new users getting access and being...

Agreed, it's just sad. Most of their "problems" with DALL∙E are explained in the Risks and Limitations.
https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-card.md
They're expecting it to generate mind-blowing, non-stereotyping, well-diverse, politically correct outputs without even considering the limitations mentioned in the article.

It is clearly stated in the article that DALL∙E has its limits and biases. I'm not an AI expert but I read the documents available to us to try and understand why DALL∙E does this and why DALL∙E cannot do that.

blissful oriole
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Not whatever that is

tardy granite
blissful oriole
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It kind of goes both ways. Clearly some ppl felt entitled to racial diversity in prompts like “Mario as a real person” and openAI agreed they were entitled to that

blissful oriole
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Nobody is asking for a non biased AI to come out of a biased world

blissful oriole
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Yep that’s Mario !

blazing atlas
#

It's not a simple question or an easy one to answer. It's a question that does need to be asked and a question this beta is well suited to experiment with.

blissful oriole
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In some cases like the above, it’s definitely sacrificing quality to appease demands for diversity

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However I can totally see where it’s appropriate with more generic prompts

burnt mountain
blissful oriole
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Mario as a real person

blazing atlas
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So if they've overcorrected, it's worth discussing, but make no mistake that this is a going concern for OpenAI and our beta usage is part of addressing this moreso than it is for our satisfied free play.

blissful oriole
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You could try anyone as a real person it’ll do the same thing

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Yeah I know that they def care, just voicing my opinion about it

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I think either change the training data, or fold your arms, when you start tampering with the actual prompts people give

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It stops being fun

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Like if every time someone writes “person”, OpenAI adds the word “black” or “Asian” randomly

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That’s a bandaid solution that sucks

hollow dune
burnt mountain
hollow dune
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well

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trick question huh

burnt mountain
# hollow dune trick question huh

Yeah but tbh I thought both were fake because of the skewed windows & lighting, but he only mentioned one was fake, so I went with 2 to be the real one.
Point is, DALL∙E is really good and it can easily fool us with the right outputs!

hollow dune
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well my thinking process which looks less real

hollow dune
#

thishumandoesnotexist

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it does good humans

burnt mountain
strong cargo
#

What's the daily prompt? Where do I find what's the theme for the day?

hollow dune
#

📌

strong cargo
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Ah okay, thank you

modern linden
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with light effects, smooth painting

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chrome

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relfections

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if u feel lucky today ^^

flint vault
# blissful oriole

Been messing around with this a bit more (prompt is Moses leading people out of Egypt)

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Homer Simpson as a real person

flint vault
#

Girlboss Moses

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Tbf the third one for the Moses is actually probably more accurate than a white Moses

blissful oriole
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Yea

flint vault
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Although maybe the person on the left is supposed to Moses, not shre

blissful oriole
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Nah he got the special Moses stick

flint vault
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Yeah but the beard looks Moses like

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Doesn't try to generate hellen keller as man for some reason even though pretty much all prompts I've done with males generated them as female first try

silver hazel
blissful oriole
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Yeah this forced diversity kinda sucks

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Like just fix the training data

flint vault
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I don't really mind for non existing people because you can specify but for real people or characters I think that crosses a line

blissful oriole
#

Exactly my feelings

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That’s why I think fixing the training data is the answer, not messing with peoples actual prompts

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That way for generic things like “person” it’s already diverse because that’s how it’s trained

flint vault
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Yeah

blissful oriole
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Instead of putting words in our mouths like “black” “Asian” whatever

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This seems like the only workaround

silver hazel
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Makes me wonder if “a man with many hands like shiva” will now generate only Indian men? Cause it used to before

blissful oriole
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Looks like a white dude at the bottom right

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And a black dude

flint vault
#

Not same obv but yeah

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Was trying to see if this could inadvertently whitewash actual people

blissful oriole
#

Yeah you can still specify race

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But if you don’t it will put races and genders into your prompt

flint vault
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I was just using photo of Mae Jemison and photo of hellen keller for my testing

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Same gender and race every time for both

blissful oriole
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I think because those prompts don’t include “person” or something similar might not do the diversity thing

flint vault
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"Photo of Martin Luther King"

blissful oriole
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I think openai has to make it clear what they’re doing if they’re gonna pull this stuff

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Lmao

silver hazel
#

But is it substantial backlash if DALL-E can generate whatever race you want… as long as you specify?

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Should DALL-E be able to read minds? Idk

flint vault
silver hazel
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“A photo of a family” DALL-E should generate 101 variations of what a family can be so no one is offended / feeling discriminated

flint vault
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Idk I don't think I should have to specify that Martin Luther King is black and male though, if works fine here but with a more complicated prompt stuff could be impossible because of text length limits

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I agree though there should be diversity for non existing people

silver hazel
blissful oriole
strong cargo
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@modern linden gave me the prompt "motion blur" and it helps out with the way I want it to look

blissful oriole
#

Again, the real solution is to fix the labeled training data

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Not mess with our prompts

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Some guy in here was saying ppl were entitled for wanting their prompts to not be f’d with lol

modern linden
#

well, thats because the difference in "interest"

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some only wanna look at it, others for design

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and some for sell

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the sell angle is huge atm for this

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they sell off prompts for $5/$30 nowadays

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are u aware of that ?

strong cargo
blissful oriole
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Lmaoo forget it

flint vault
strong cargo
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I'd like to join lol

modern linden
blissful oriole
#

But yea I get what u mean

modern linden
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well they do directly inform u of gender

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lol

blissful oriole
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..most of the time

silver hazel
blissful oriole
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Shouldn’t be confused by male

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It signifies they are adding in words to our prompts

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Literally putting words in ur mouth

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Also whoever pays $10 or whatever for a prompt must be very very rich or dumb

flint vault
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Probably impatient people who don't want to wait for access or for other people to generate their prompt or their prompt sucks and no one is generating it

blissful oriole
#

Yeah ig

burnt mountain
# flint vault "Photo of Martin Luther King"

"An overhead greyscale photo of a large crowd in the streets of Washington D.C, listening to an african american man in his late 50s with his fist raised, with a crew cut hair, wearing a professional black suit and tie, standing at a podium with a microphone. Documentary photo. Sigma 40mm f/1.4 DG HSM"
Not sure if DALL-E is restricted in recreating political figures (even those who passed away). With the right prompt, you can recreate anything. But not 100% copy of course.

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Needed a few tries.

blissful oriole
burnt mountain
blissful oriole
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Word, we’ll same applies to fictional characters

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You can no longer reference real world characters in general because of the use of racial groups as diversity props

modern linden
#

indeed, it is what it is.

blissful oriole
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Yep, but a competitor sure will

modern linden
blissful oriole
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They are planning on making it a product, and they already have competitors

modern linden
#

with the option to go that far, that is up to them

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yeah ofc

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thats the end game

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ppl need to make money to eat too

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but lets at least agree on it, that it will be done in a graceful way

blissful oriole
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That what will be done gracefully?

modern linden
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selling of these pieces in such way, both parties are happy

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without the disgusting need of NFT's

blissful oriole
#

At least we can all agree NFTs are dumb asf

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OpenAI seems like it’s taking the route of putting words in peoples mouths to appease demands for diversity

modern linden
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they are like drugs to a healthy mind, it corrupts

blissful oriole
#

And nothing we can do ab that lol

modern linden
#

if i can help it, ill make sure to inform that person

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lol

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ofc im full of "pissed off feelings" but i cant approach him the same way he conducts his business, reckless.

blissful oriole
#

Who is him?

modern linden
#

NFT sellers

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we got a whole ...batch of these leeches

blissful oriole
#

Honestly whoever buys an NFT deserves it

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Let them all sell it to each other and watch it plummet

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Bc honestly 90% of ppl buying NFTs just want to sell it to some other idiot

modern linden
#

ehm, i have no idea what that entails

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i just wanna make nice things

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and if ppl enjoy that, i like it even more

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thats my reward

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feels good

blissful oriole
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I respect that

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I don’t think NFTs has to do with art

modern linden
#

exactly

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its like a ordinary "commodity"

burnt mountain
modern linden
#

what?

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u kidding me?

modern linden
blissful oriole
#

Yeah those people are very special

modern linden
#

hahahahaha

burnt mountain
blissful oriole
#

Truly think we will all be living on our virtual land in the future

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What a joke

burnt mountain
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Supposed to be for the metaverse

modern linden
#

christ ...

blissful oriole
#

Does anyone actually want to live in the meta verse?

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VR and stuff has been around for like 20 years now

modern linden
blissful oriole
#

Nobody wants that sht

modern linden
#

how strange is that

blissful oriole
#

Not that strange honestly, people want to insert capitalism freaking everywhere

modern linden
#

yes but the system is broke, flawed

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we seen that right

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lol 😂

blissful oriole
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Don’t worry, I think the meta verse isn’t gonna happen

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Too much hype buildup for literally nothing

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And now that all these NFTs are dying I think ppl are waking up to that

modern linden
#

im all for digital worlds, i love...VR goggles im all for that

blissful oriole
#

But do you want to spend more time in a digital VR world than real life?

modern linden
#

VRchat was one of the weirdest but most fascinating things ive seen

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friend of mine that is wheelchair bound as far i know, he basically lives in that world

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he can walk in there, so yeah

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go figure

blissful oriole
#

Haha well, I can kinda see that

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That’s still probably a little unhealthy

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Doesn’t that sht mess with your eyes?

modern linden
#

well the thing he has a sickness that is permanent. hes not going to make it with us, a well lived life.

blissful oriole
#

Also we have the tech now to make our own free anarchy metacerse in the case that Facebook makes their dystopian capitalism one

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And the best part is it’s digital so

modern linden
#

hes prolly going somewhere near future

blissful oriole
#

I can have my giant sprawling mansion in the anarchy verse while other ppl pay real money to have a nice “digital estate” on Facebook

modern linden
#

if u know what i mean

blissful oriole
#

I’m sorry to hear that

modern linden
#

nah its fine, he has peace with that

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but he loves this AI/3d World stuff

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makes him believe for a moment, he aint in this shitty situation

blissful oriole
#

It’s a great time to be alive

modern linden
#

so, my point is, AI and 3D worlds is the best thing for ppl with certain conditions

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they can do things again, that make them participate in life

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thats their desire

silver hazel
#

Have you guys ever played World of Warcraft?

modern linden
#

have a purpose

blissful oriole
#

Yeah, I really hope it doesn’t become a norm for ppl who don’t need it tho

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Because I can see it alienating ppl from each other

modern linden
#

so im all for this

blissful oriole
#

Living in disgusting messes in their room that they don’t have to look at

modern linden
#

dunnow about that, but if u could make someone happy just for a brief moment, thtas worth it

blissful oriole
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I agree it’s a good thing for those ppl who need it

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But it should be in moderation like everything in life

modern linden
#

yeah thats up to them 😛

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i mean hes terminal, u rkon he cares ?

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lol

blissful oriole
#

Not really, it wasn’t up to us to become a fast food eating nation of obesity

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We just kinda got raised that way

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Oh I’m not talking about your friend at all I mean in general

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For non terminal ppl

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Could be very dangerous

modern linden
#

oh yeah ofc

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obesity is a broad thing, its genetics, its mentally, its a lot of things

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emotional

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u cant broad stroke these ppl under the same "just lazy and fat"

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but sure u can stimulate them to not eat sugar, but its so deeply woven into their life, rly hard to reverse that "picture of themselves"

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luckily we got guys like u ppl, that are just acting as normal beings, not making that observing known, lol

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live, and let live.

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you are what you eat, and you become one with your friends. these are the major signals

blissful oriole
#

We produce extraordinarily unhealthy foods which is why we have an “obesity epidemic” in this country

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It’s not just we have a lot of weird genetics in America

modern linden
#

processed foods are the bad ones

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try to step back to actual fruits and vegetables

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also try to cook with steam instead

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so u retain as much as possible of the vitamins

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just throw in some good ol' chicken breast, rice, broccoli, peanuts and nuts

blissful oriole
#

I’m not making a point about food

modern linden
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i do 😄

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i mean it works for me, so well. so im sharing that

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i managed to keep 70Kg for last 10 years, i never been fat...ever using that same food

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my body just leveled out now it has the right meals

blissful oriole
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That’s awesome

modern linden
#

im almost 40 now

blissful oriole
#

My point was more broadly that we don’t choose what cultures we’re born into and what factors influence us

modern linden
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most of my peers are getting fat

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LOL

blissful oriole
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And the obesity epidemic in the US is a good example

modern linden
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not me, no sir

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yeah but im so certain that its all not needed, with little bit of effort. you can be yourself. you just have to believe it, ur body is a phenomenal machine, that will adapt to you.

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but sometimes, ppl are just big.

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i mean in my country im the smallest mofo and im 183cm

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😂

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men i even had gf's that where way taller then me, that was strange

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i tell ya that much

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she just "knocks" on someone's shoulder coming thru the most funniest shit ive witnessed when they look up with these eyes >_>

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hehe

blissful oriole
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But I feel bad for a five year old that eats McDonald’s every day

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They don’t know any better

modern linden
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i think they need that

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i mean, we all do this. one smokes, one drinks, one eats, all in the idea of enjoy

blissful oriole
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And the cycle repeats itself when those people have kids

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fast food is a cultural norm here

modern linden
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well ..i find it hard to criticize other ppl's parenting, since im no parent myself.

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so let that be said XD

blissful oriole
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I’m not either, but I think it’s fair criticism of American culture

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And an example of factors infleuncing us outside of our control

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If you were born into a family that feeds their kid shit, we’ll, tough luck

modern linden
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yep

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it certainly is tough luck for many

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u guys sometimes have a good prompt and u add something, totally messed up ur iteration XD

soft hull
#

was dalle2 modified or something?

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i saw a reddit post saying they changed it but i thought it was a static model

flint vault
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The model wasn't changed

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It just generates women and non white people more

soft hull
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and that's bad because?

silver hazel
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Used to be only Indian men, now we can see some blacks & asians

soft hull
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yup can confirm

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did the prompt a few days ago

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it was only white men then

flint vault
soft hull
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but like how does it change that

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like it's a static model

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what does it change

flint vault
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Prompt was photo of Martin Luther King

soft hull
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ok ok yes i get it but

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in what way does the process change so that it produces less men and white people

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it's a static model

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what did they actually change

flint vault
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I don't know exactly I think it has to do with the way dalle receives the prompt

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I get the impression it's a quick fix because so many people have access now

soft hull
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Call me stupid but the results of the prompt "The Mandelbrot set" has varied as well 😭

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it's closer to what it should be but before it was more spiral heavy

flint vault
#

From my testing it seems the diversity doesn't apply to everyone. An image of hellen keller generated 4 times always had her white and as a women but Moses generated once had 3 woman

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Generated an image of Mae Jemison 4 times and she was also always black and a woman

soft hull
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this is with the prompt "King"

flint vault
#

Also saw that it applied to relationships so gay people are represented more

soft hull
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W actually

flint vault
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Yeah I think all of it is good

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Just shouldn't aplly to actual people

soft hull
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yeah i do see that

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wait wait what if i put "Walter White"

silver hazel
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we love seeing this

flint vault
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And also maybe some more tweaking because I have specified male and still got female before

silver hazel
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we don't like seeing this

soft hull
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but in terms of turning real people into different people

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ok well "Walter White" still makes the same white man every time

silver hazel
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Maybe they have some sliders with which they tweak how DALL-E generates stuff and they increased the random / variety slider? Which in result gifted us a woman MLK

soft hull
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"Niko" is still the same

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aww how could i be mad at this lil guy

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ok, uhm, something very strange is definitely going on

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here's the results from the prompt "furaffinity"

flint vault
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Wdym

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What were the old results like

soft hull
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yeah

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but why does it do that

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especially when you put "art featured on furaffinity" it makes furries

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but without it it's the weird 3d render phantom guy

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the "strange thing going on" isn't to do with the change

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i dont know why it makes the panda so much

flint vault
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Oh

patent grail
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the quality of faces has 100% gone down

burnt mountain
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3 Days Ago:

patent grail
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thats 1 prompt out of millions

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i wouldnt say by much, maybe like 5%, its extremely subtle

patent grail
burnt mountain
patent grail
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hmm maybe its just that in trying to get a result that i want im making worse prompts

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cuz i have to add more words now or else a king is a woman in all of them

burnt mountain
patent grail
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tbh i tihnk the benefits outweigh the costs here, i just wish theyd announce any/all changes to them model somewhere

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its hard to legit use it as a work tool if its constantly changing without notice

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oops i meant the benefits are probably worth it lol just got up

hollow dune
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guys

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is it okay to post dall e images on reddit as "OC"?

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or is it technically not original content?

zenith crater
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i post them without

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it's usually the person who created them who posts them nowadays anyway

hollow dune
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ahh

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because the subreddit i wanted to post something only had 'repost' and 'oc' art related

finite ridge
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Tag it as oc then. Repost is probably for when it's been posted to the same Subreddit before

burnt mountain
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"an annoying corporate person calling somebody in the phone"

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Now everyone's represented (-ish)

zenith crater
hollow dune
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i feel bad for people who experience existential crisises because of ai

finite ridge
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Ai hype always comes and goes

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Read up on the ai winter

hollow dune
finite ridge
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People thought the car be the death of horse and buggy drivers

hollow dune
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it's not like dall-e's the first anyway, it's just that openai is behind dall-e which hypes up a lot

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well the horse still exists just not for purpose, rather 'art'

finite ridge
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The loom machine was going to put weavers out on the street

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There will always be artists

hollow dune
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ai will replace images and videos for mass-use though, but art will still exist yeah

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the car did replace the use/purpose of horses

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but they are still there for "decorative"/traditional purpose

finite ridge
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Painting van Gogh replicas is still a viable business.

lofty birch
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Humans are the horses of the future 😂

hard vault
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btw on Instagram i started to check if random posts are dalle or normal, anyone else !? 😄

finite ridge
modern linden
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DeviantArt will be back online again soon.```
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_> in the middle of an upload

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awesome

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lol

finite ridge
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I haven't uploaded to deviantart in years

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I keep forgetting it exists

burnt mountain
warm flax
# burnt mountain "an annoying corporate person calling somebody in the phone"

Hi everyone — re: more diverse outputs on generic people description prompts!

We’ll elaborate more on the what/why/how tomorrow, but one thing I wanted to call out for now is that none of the changes we make, ever, are final.

As you’re likely aware since you’ve been on this research preview rollercoaster with us, we’re constantly iterating on all parts of the system based on feedback and data. Acking the buggy outputs and that we’re already working on improving it!

finite ridge
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Can we get release notes when things change that affect end users?

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I understand things are subject to change but it would be nice to have a warning

warm flax
finite ridge
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Ah, classic Friday night change rollout

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Not sure why people put stress on themselves like this

burnt mountain
warm flax
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I think this will be an ongoing challenge in which for us to globally announce something, we’d like to make sure we’ve gathered more data on it + slowly ramp up.

So going forward some A/B tests may/will affect a subset of users at any given point prior to release notes. We’ll definitely try to balance what this might mean when we’re no longer a free research preview product though!

burnt mountain
patent grail
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Its hard to use a tool when you cant trust it will be same tomorrow

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or in 5 minutes

finite ridge
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Apparently you can have 250k users per discord server. Anything over 1000 with active users would be a nightmare

uncut spoke
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The Midjourney server has 531,000 members

burnt mountain
finite ridge
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In another server we made inactive users fight to stay on the server by putting them in a Gladiator free for all

warm flax
blissful summit
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we are so lucky to be here, ya i agree though haha

patent grail
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poor natalie

finite ridge
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I think the invite only system keeps trolls out which goes a long way. If you have a bot to automatically verify someone as a dalle user it should be fine. The only issue is that chat can move very quickly with a lot of users