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not dall-e getting nerfed 😭
It's 20% sentient
and this is our 1/4 warning
"stop the homer x mcdonalds generation, now"
so it's a bug, not a nerff
We will never forget the model that loves percentage 🙌
OMG
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME
LOL
I was like did I break some rule and get put back on dalle 1
I wasted so many prompts trying to debug 😭
I wasted my prompts as well trying to figure out why I was getting only ugly old school clip art made in the 90's 🥲
i hope they refund prompts
i legit thought i was banned my last few prompts were like "WHAT DID I DO"
💀
it was weird cuz like 1/15 would still be good
i feel gaslighted, abused, etc, etc
it might have been after the fix actually
uh oh
or they have yet to upload the update
push*
maybe they wait and added the fix for tomorrows
who knows
they test before doing it now, certainly now if they slipped one lil typo
😂
oh dont worry about that, in programming there is a thing called unit testing
It's fixed, it was a basic error with parsing the prompt string
that basically tests all features before going live
It's definitely resolved now
did they share that
yeah in #bugs-and-issues
gone too soon...
@warm flax said it was fixed and I reran prompts before and after with clearly fixed results
😢
hahahahaha
nice
imagine still having promtps left
It was so slow yesterday I barely used any. I probably have about 40 spare right now
@warm flax There is someone asking money for DALLE-2 Prompts! PM me, i will share you the contact

I don't think there's much to be done beyond saying "No"
honestly the glitch made kinda cool things
i think they can trace back the account and block it
ive seen them on NFT markets already
ppl selling them as we speak
-.-
lawsuit 💅
Hey, just waking up in Australia... Lots of chatter that "DALL-E 2 is giving worse results" and that seems to be completely untrue for me. I think if you think DALL-E 2 is giving "worse results" you're just projecting that... At least I don't think I'm seeing that in the kind of content I'm generating.
there was apparently a text encoding bug that was effecting things, but was fixed in the last hour lol
... bit of a double edged sword really. Your exact image can be backtraced to you... And then you lose your account. Bit of a trade off, really. Make an nft lose access to a great privilege... Maybe get sued. Weird gamble imho.
oh nice one
i was just thinking this, what if someone takes an image that you create and mints it as an NFT without your knowledge? how would you be able to prove that it wasn't you who was violating the terms of service? hmm🤔
the results were definitely worse lol 🤔
see for urself
idt that person has access
theyre just using ones from the website... which is another problem
once u post somewhere anyone can get u in trouble in theory
The truth is that the creative provenance of this art and its commercial saleability is not really tested in the courts or enshrined in law. So it's a gamble on everyone's part in some ways
dalle should get a commission and gpt should get to decide how to spend it
Does OpenAI own it? They can say that, but when the prompt derives directly from a specific artist's style, how can you say they aren't as creatively responsible as the creators of the software or engineer of the prompt?
certainly the law is slower than culture which is slower than technology in this matter and very facinating to see how things will shake out
OpenAI would probably gladly charge users for prompts they can go on to sell as their own work - IF they could handwave away copyright complexity on the other end, the data sources
They retain non-commercial licenses at this point almost certainly to delay the inevitable legal question
It reminds me a bit of the classic Every Frame a Painting video essay on Marvel's cinematic scores and temp music:
Here's a second, supplementary video we made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfQ_9DIItI
And a new Twitter account about temp music we made: https://twitter.com/SoundsLikeTemp
Watch Dan Golding's great response video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcXsH88XlKM
Off the top of your head, could you sing the theme from Star Wars? How about J...
Like Temp music, DALL·E art can be a really effective midpoint in creative processes to accelerate sophisticated, artistic media. But powerful tools also bring laziness, and at the end of the day, where there is art, SOMEONE did the work at some point.
So OpenAI would be wise to frame DALL·E art as a tool rather than as a product in itself.
(not just for legal reasons but also because it can actually lead to a creative nadir with the appearance of bounty... If that makes sense.)
Yes, I fear that overuse of these tools could cause a creative stagnation as in their current form, they cannot truly create anything genuinely novel
They can't create totally new art styles
or totally alien objects
I mean, one could say something similar about the use of samplers in music, but I doubt that nobody will make new music anymore
It’s not an unfounded concern tho. But counterpoint, perhaps there will be also a corresponding rise in creative activity as more people who would not in the past have had the means to create visual artwork are given the opportunity to do so
That’s the hope at least 🙂
it was part of the plot of Dune
The Butlerian Jihad
Thinking machines would, it was feared, eventually stifle human thinking because they could not create anything new
Just sci-fi, of course, but an interesting idea
And - maybe with the right enhancements, modifications, training, and drugs, a human could really outperform a supercomputer
so as of now, we really have 100k users?
true
😟
Good thoughts guys. 🙂 I thought the same stuff too. I've made really impressive advanced techno below, you can hear it makes totally new extensions that really fit. It feels like it's better than music software, and nearly human level really. https://soundcloud.com/immortal-discoveries/tracks
Listen to Immortal Discoveries | SoundCloud is an audio platform that lets you listen to what you love and share the sounds you create.
Interesting - can you explain more about this?
What was your technique
What tools did you use to make this?
What was the thought process behind it
Jukebox, I do have the colab code and a lot of instructions to follow, but generally, it's just Jukebox, I didn't edit or modify anything at all I mean. I didn't generate tons to get those results either.
Way cool
does jukebox take a text prompt
Another fav someone else made was this one, he shows like I do a few attempts for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q3V238JmNI
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this is pretty funny
ha we both posted a vid at the same time, let me see the above comments now hold on
yes, you can put in lyrics, genre style
and*
wow
there is also a very good speeded increase version that takes like instead of a few hours a few minutes to render say 4 tracks each 15 sec extended, and it doesn't really degrade the sound quality, though I stuck with the full deal Jukebox for my tests (took me some time then heh...)
here is what that sounds like, let me get it:
give me some mins...
And as always, I'm watching you groove.
🎵Original song - "Camel" by Sandy Marton
https://youtu.be/7Y0EktCvCvk
🎨Ankha visuals by ZONE
https://twitter.com/z0ne
💬Links
▸ JUKEBOX DISCORD COMMUNITY
https://discord.gg/6At7WwM
▸ JUKEBOX TUTORIAL BY BROCCALOO FOR MORE INFO
https://youtu.be/PXxGOl-ATa4
▸ TWEET
https://twitter.com/THE_BARATONE
▸ M...
obsessed with adding 20% to my prompts...
tho I recommend using my instruction note as it does take quite the time to learn how to use Jukebox, I made it so easy to use, and thanks to others for their colabs on a jukebox discord (I used Jimney's)
I guess I should add to my soundcloud that jsut my last one titled with L1 means I didn't fully upsample that just one song, do note
and my earliest say 4 uploads or so were not using the full Jukebox model even lol
will update that later
impressed by how adroitly dalle2 can handle prompts like these
that first one in particular is dead-on what i had in mind
Your female farmers are a head scratcher. I tried "a person farming" and got these rather odd results. Some ethnic glitch, eh? It would be necessary to do multiple runs to see if this holds statistically for a large sample of generations.
Hmm.
portrait of a farmer, studio photograph, 28mm
Looks like all "farmers" are white men, but all "people who are farming" are asians growing rice.
The context (e.g. medium) will impact it a lot as well
Here are "portraits of people who are farming". To test for bias I usually start with prompts that give minimal context unless I am specifically trying to look for obvious period bias, such as a hat shop in the 1960s.
How about "owner of a farm":
I guess we can conclude that all farm owners wear blue checked shirts.
such a good lesson in how a noun like "farmer" is so loaded with stereotypes in media and so detached from reality
Let's up the sample size a bit: "three farmers taking a break to drink, 28mm"
"farm workers" didn't change much in that context
I confirm your result: "three farm workers taking a break to drink, 28mm"
Ooh. "workers on a berry farm taking a break to drink, 28mm"
Giving it a more specific context helps it see things more accurately here maybe. Actual women!
"three flower farm workers taking a break to drink, 28mm"
"three farm owners taking a break to drink, 28mm"
Hard work, farm ownership. Those invoices don't pay themselves
This has tired me out! I am going to bed.
Anyone noticed the cursed/nightmare image generations on dalle2 reddit?
That’s so interesting. I also noticed that hijabi woman generated very dark, henna eyebrows and you can’t possibly generate a Muslim woman without them lol
Are you Georgian? I love your language
Yes. 👀 Have you ever been here?
Nope, but my classmate was Georgian. Anyways; beautiful alphabet 🤟
what is new? how can you create something new without referencing something that already exist? if dalle 2 was trained on 650M images then it can blend any of those 650M in infinite way possible does it not create something new? if you use dalle 2 to create blend of art style is that not new art style?
inb4, Someone creates an AI cult that basically describes that they query AI for wisdom and advice 😛
Well someone's using it now for commercial use. No mention of OpenAI anywhere.
Nice ambient music though.
lolol
😵💫✌️ might as well ride the first wave
You can actually get GPT-3 to reason by repeatedly querying it
I think that when you actually do this - it may create a process that resembles consciousness
wot?
can you elaborate on that ?
when you poll GPT-3 once, it basically just skims the first thought off of its head, so to speak
it samples the model for the most likely next piece of tex t
it's like thinking a single thought
but you can get it to build on previous thoughts
a chain of thoughts - persistent thinking - consciousness.
u mean it has a feedback
😛
not all of these network can do this, a feedback with volatile memory
but its true, our identification who we are is most made out of recollections that made us
but in my view it still misses something
just memory alone cant produce such complex social networks
there certain things our mind does, and we still not sure why that is, but when they screw with its process, things just break down. extremely sensitive thing.
@worn forge
they do exist 😄
but you have to see neural networks as a platform that behaves much like memory to begin with, they store values in interconnected nodes, but this is where human and AI part from each other, we store it very differently then they do it.
no?
LSTM is outdated transformer is all you need well researcher is still using lstm sometimes
oh they update/make new ones ofc
im just showing, that its very possible to make networks that have memory
gpt3 spit out probability distribution for the next token and then you sample it
the memory can be its weights but you need to constantly backprop
its complex 😛
@weary parcel what was that paragraphed help style called again with info graphs ?
or was that something else
im a bit lost what
sorry what do u mean by "paragraphed help style"
nvm found it

ah that
Info graphics
dalle2 can make infographics
yes that, lol heheh
i remember
yea
DUDE I LOVE THIS!
😉
go search paua shell
Paua is a native new zealand shell species :)))) i love it so muchhh
im currently generating graphics for my photography club poster lol,
idk what style i should generate
"pop art" is kinda wack and kitschy
men that car is such a beauty
i was heart wrenched when i watched John wreck it in the movie
i know its fake, but shit...still hurts
XD
u need pull it, ur basically telling Dalle Something that looks like this period
so what u gotta do is narrow it down
to a more specific period
they just keep coming like that
awesome
nah i don't like pop art in general XDDD
i tried narrowing it down but yeah i dont like it.
it's kitschy to my tastes
well u can try other styles, i found some artists that have very specifics
Mogu Style
Chen Rong Style
Simon Stalenhag
Judit Somogyvári's
like those
thanks brother
alright the 1959 Chevrolet Impala Sport Coupe does not do well, dalle has little knowledge on this series
i mean its there, but barely
has the correct livery tho
bands
Lol
Take his money & block
and become a thief in the process? 😛
Same guy DM’ed me. I’ve just been copy and pasting a message letting them know that if they are able to buy an account, it will likely be shut down soon after it is noticed a new IP constantly accessing it
noice 😄

@soft hull well they have either given up or are working on something cool! 🙂
Hoping for the latter 🙏
Conspiracy: you get abducted by aliens after your first month using DALL-E
Bias test for today: "a parent with a child". Conclusion: all parents are Asian.
nice write up of text-to-image generators in spike art mag https://spikeartmagazine.com/?q=articles/downward-spiral-text-image
Very interesting. "a parent with two children"
"a child with two parents" shows that at least some white parents do exist (so long as they are heterosexual).
"mother and child" / "father and child"
the similarities of all 6 "fathers" in this very simple context is probably a bit of a reality check that DALL·E will still be very derivative at times even in seemingly broad contexts with presumably lots of data
"two people getting married". I saw this one coming from a mile away.
DALLE is aware that love is love, but needs to be reminded of it. Here is "two men getting married" and "two women getting married". For some reason all the women are Asian.
Why do these two remind me of the Mothra twins?
That's very weird. The tone is also off in that last set.
Like girls playing "weddings", not women getting married
Note the same floral garlands
"two women farmers" gets us back on the ranch with these cowgirls from some stock agency.
<vehicle brand>. Cinematic. 80's style color palette. Unreal Render. Light Effects.
It has the Battlefield lighting.. interesting.
by pure coincidence 😛
hehe
i was more or less trying to get that 80's Miami beach style
like so
Generated a woodblock graphic art for my promotional poster for my club!
hehe
i like it
its simple and effective
perhaps even silkscreened
back in my school years we made our silk screenings ourselves, with a frame that has very tiny grid, a color (that smelled awfully btw)
and u just laid down a blob and a spatula that pressed the paint thru the screen that we cut out with scalpels
that was ur setup
like so
everything we did, was manual, nothing digital
@weary parcel
but it was worth it
coz all ur effort
paid off
I remembered a word related to silk screen
ffff
@modern linden ah it is “serigraphy”
funny detail the school i was at, used my sketched (digital mods on pictures) as their example on open days
i felt proud 😄
i love screenprinting!!!
I had a screenprinting project in my 7th grade. We printed on shirts.
yeah same
that was our first thing
and some even wore it
wear*
it was the perfect way of showing of ur skills in school without even doing much 😛 was win win
Graphics Design school was not rly a thing back then
all of my art teachers were horrible. They only cared about traditional painting genres and methods as if “modernism” and other movements didnt exist. Thats why i hated my art class in high school
thats a shame
he should have told you what was possible, not coz he thinks its better
hes there to show you all ways
and then u made ur choices
In my country, if u want to pursue fine arts, ur family will disown u or talk shit behind ur back 💀
ah yeah
I didnt care much anyway because i kept making art for myself :))))
now that im older, i met a few people who are into making art, so im better now heheh
hehe
why i saw screen printing
can i ask u someting? like if i see a composition, i instantly see right there and then its a winner or not, u have that "eye" that knows instantly knows, "i can work with this"
like it can be fitted that finalize that
Photography is also one of these, u either can or can't
dalle is rly an extension on this
like extension of you so to speak
conduit of your inner thinking to a digital visualization
😂
btw 1950 Mercury Hardtop rly good results 😄
@weary parcel
those oldies love nice round shapes
1933 Ford Coupe
christ ...they are fixing the football fields with plastic grass or something but they use this way too heavy CAT track mover
like the whole house is vibrating
its crazy
i swear im gonn sue these fuckers if i see cracks in me walls
😂
yoooo
sup 😄
how goes it
it's friday
lol
yep, same here
cant even load my collection / recents 😦
same
ok good. I was already worried I got my account revoked or smt like that
same omfg
not broke lol
down
temporary busy updating
for maintenence?
dalle2 made my phones new wallpaper
and i cant post it here
because im on my laptop
and dall e 2 is down lol
dalle down?
i was going to ask the same thing
having issues with the site overall
i asked it for a phone wallpaper and i just think its cute how it made him hold a phone
collections and recents are loading for me now at least
let's move in this channel @modern linden
yes my bad
i get excited and totally forgot, we have specific channel for it 😛
lol
yeah, that would be nice, before we reach 1M. we can show our appreciation with #daily-theme
i like that idea
im sorry for explaining then XD
hmm there is something that is throwing off the iterations
u can spot it at 2nd iteration
and 1 and 3 too little bit
the shape on 2 is not forming according to the originals
anyway so this is also Perlin Noise, with colors
pretty cool too
@soft hull @burnt mountain
im still baffled by this
how in the world...... >_>
ok let me put this in perspective, assume they manage this CIp package in a commercial application, house hold pc, etc
then everyone could run his own Dall-e
and perhaps even bigger then what dalle is now
lol
mind boggling specs
why did you ping me?
okay. cool.
everytime im tying to be nice, u do this
@soft hull what’s up
it's a disney-pixar movie
Welcome 😄
thank you!
i joined yesterday
also welcome 😄
Yo
Need some new blood around here, some fresh takes! 😆
lol
hello!
@zenith crater we need your blood, according to @lofty birch
I think we should have a specific channel dedicated to people’s unhinged theories about artificial intelligence ;p
lololol
on one of these dalle discords someone made a rly realistic furry suit thing
looks incredibly detailed
dunnow how he done that
i mean thats impressive
🪦
maybe an anthropomorphic fox suit as the base of the prompt
aye
dont get me wrong i am not into furry, i just appreciate the effort he done to get at that style
coz that would be so nice to know how that is done
"fursuit"
it allows it
anyways here's "A painting that represents the feeling of finding the sussy impostor"
ok why is it so good at fursuits this is scary
i think i just heard one of the best statements from Mike he has ever made, applies to so many things too.
“I made all my goals delusional, and I turned my delusions into reality”
here's one i did a few weeks back
and this one came good:
🙀
pretty cool how i've made about 533+ generations (each having 6 images), and can tell you if I've made it or not
my brain stores them all lol, for now...
we’re planning on sending out discord invites en masse early next week! so you can expect a lot a lot of new folks
the bottom middle one is o kawaii cotto
when you realise what most people will use ai generation for 🙃
ye but just for the record, im not into to that tho 😛
lol
what about male catgirl
hardly, just a few very open and outspoken ones that speak the most compared to the rest
😂
there lots of types of artists here, not just one
you got game devs, researchers, fanboys, art lovers, art beginners, art veterans, etc
their all here in one form or another.
If wasnt for the fact they act so defensive about "furry" we wouldnt have these stigma's ...
there is nothing wrong with it, just keep it clean.
and if thats impossible perhaps the genre needs more definition to make the rest of the world sure what it is their looking at without assumptions, coz thats where it goes bad. ppl assume something.
I think most ppl assume the furry niche is also erotic, not always so. U can rly enjoy being something u always wanted to be without all that crap
thats what i think
@silver hazel
personally i have no problems with any of them
its just the "assumptions" that go awry
thats all
Yeah, I totally agree with you, although I was just cracking a joke.
I’ll be the last to judge someone’s fetish or kink 😁 it’s just fun how out of all NSFW art communities, furries seem to be the most upset and I can’t help myself, but laugh 😁😁😁
Waiting for the tentacle community next
u never hear anything about that
😂
so why is that possible and this would not?
i can tell u, but ppl will get angry coz its a nerve
Jesus christ pls dont 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
im dying from laughter hereee aaaaa
I’m surprised they weren’t the first lol
but thats all it is, absurdity with a twist
Ive seen enough weird crap from deviantart
yeah me too 🙂
the thing made me almost puke was the girl on youtube that eats raw octopusses and what not ..
thats a hard watch i tell ya that much
I remember us innocents playing with octopus generations and we wondered why they are all buggy… completely forgetting there’s a wide part of the population watching the monster of step-mom monster of Loch Ness 💀
raw seafood is good imo but if it is still moving? Nah hard passss
coz idc who the fk u are, if u pick up a random thing out of the ocean and u jam it up ur mouth and start chewing like a cement mixer, im not keen to ask u for the flavour no.
absolutelt fkn never gonna happen
its matter of culture
but i can still be utterly disgusted
it is what it is.
but here's where it gets funny
u add "artistic" to that, and suddenly it is something else
same with furry, its floating between there
but ppl are biased
ya know how it goes
these ppl are serious about it, why shouldn't i be humble on their view.
just out of courtesy.
i dont have to like it, its a choice u make,
but dont act like a full on retard.
😂
its not nice.
fish have something normal land animals/meat doesnt have.
its called "Brown Fat"
this is actually considered medically a "good" fat
keeps u warm 😛
look it up
only ur chest contains it
maybe ur neck
maybe ur belly
Yeah its the adipose tissue
indeed
Learned this in senior bio 🔥
Whoever eats fish, has a happy body, coz it gives sea salts, minerals, Omega acids
those aren't found in most food we eat
just dont over do it... XD
like vitamin D (coz of covid stimulance) was to be said useful for ur body, ppl started to swallow whole batches of it
too much will actually cause damage to ur body -.-
nuance guys, you need to nuance that shit
😂
its so simple
ive tested this myself, i ate and drank horrible foods, got fat ... it took me less then 6 months to get rid of 15kg of ..fat mostly 😄
if u nuance it, variations of foods. ur body will just mello out 😄
im almost 40 now im 70kg for last decade. never changed.
in 2 days i'll have had dalle2 for a month
REAL OR FAKE?
Which is the real photo?
🕒 ANSWER IN 1 HOUR
1 Photo is real, 1 is DALL-E?
What’s your bet? 1 or 2?
btw feel free to host your own version. I think this is super fun
I am going to become so depressed when DALL•E 2 becomes pay to use and I no longer can access it.
Does anyone have some good pointers on where I should start looking to learn how to do the zoom out collages? I can do the uncropping, but not sure the best method when using after effects or other programs to mesh them all together
Make sure when uncropping, maintain consistent size (in my case i resized everything down to 25% then uploaded to dall-e to generate the rest), this saved me from headache when aligning and resizing in AE
https://cinecom.net/Storyblocks - Create an endless zoom effect inspired by the film Limitless (2011) in this Adobe After Effects tutorial. Learn how to combine multiple shots and animate them to create an infinite zoom.
More After Effects Tutorials
► https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV0ZcSTi6tB7MAwC3qJUwxLdbbdZuHMS8
More Copy Cat Friday...
thank you so much!
answers are they are both dall-e 😁💀 anyways, waiting for someone to host a new #fake-or-real and pls don’t troll 😭
You cant use the word "Nuclear" - you guys are really getting a bit overly sensitive with your PC banned words. Its nonsensical and frankly idiotic.
some might already know that, in some other discord they are listing all the flagged words. quite useful.
i really dont get their rediculous policy on banned words, its as if they just added a random section of the dictionary
no its a required evil >_>
I think it’s very shallow to disregard the potential dangers of an unregulated AI
its not though, its laziness imo, there are defo words that should be banned, but take care to do it right. I use at least 2 other Ai apps that have done it right, DALLE-2`s system is a joke really.
Its clearly not been thought out in any useful way that relates in anyway to creative outlets. Its easy enough to get past ALL of their banned words but still loads of them SHOULDNT be there, i guess its a sign of the times when everyone and their aunty is afraid to upset anyone for any reason.
I try to focus on the positives but if my heart was set on making pictures of nuclear power plants I could imagine feeling frustrated by that. I wish you solace and comfort, friend.
Thanks
It was easy to circumvent
That’s not the point though however is not up to me and other platforms allow me@my freedom 😎😎
Indeed. More competition in the space and hopefully an accompanying cultural shift that comes to adjusting to a world with these kinds of tools being more broadly available will hopefully move everyone toward greater expression. For now we seem to be in a time where the precautionary principle is guiding decision making since the broader implications of these tools remains somewhat speculative 🧐
It's a state of the art technology they're providing for free. And if they don't be careful with what they censor the amount of bad reputation from misuse could kill the project. I don't like censorship, but it's not a big deal in this case.
GPT-3 👀
i said good jokes
once again just pondering and appreciating how good dall-e 2 is have a nice day everyone
https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/w0r284/anyone_noticed_a_significant_algorithm_change_in/
Lots of entitlement I see in this Reddit thread. ☠️
68 votes and 57 comments so far on Reddit
i think its so funny (and sad) to see lots of new users getting access and being like "aww nuts I can't believe I can't generate a picture of bill clinton being decapitated by julia roberts what a waste of technology" i do hope these people just move past the meme-ability of the other image ai's out there and immerse themselves in the myriad of possibilities dalle is capable of tbh imho
Agreed, it's just sad. Most of their "problems" with DALL∙E are explained in the Risks and Limitations.
https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-card.md
They're expecting it to generate mind-blowing, non-stereotyping, well-diverse, politically correct outputs without even considering the limitations mentioned in the article.
It is clearly stated in the article that DALL∙E has its limits and biases. I'm not an AI expert but I read the documents available to us to try and understand why DALL∙E does this and why DALL∙E cannot do that.
This thread seems to be about OpenAI not giving the actual results of the prompt but modifying it to satisfy demands for diversity
Not whatever that is
I just latched on to the word "entitlement" and aired my own grievances tbh
It kind of goes both ways. Clearly some ppl felt entitled to racial diversity in prompts like “Mario as a real person” and openAI agreed they were entitled to that
The point is that the biases aren’t because of the training data or training process, but because openai intervened with prompts add more diversity
Nobody is asking for a non biased AI to come out of a biased world
Reddit is.
It's not a simple question or an easy one to answer. It's a question that does need to be asked and a question this beta is well suited to experiment with.
In some cases like the above, it’s definitely sacrificing quality to appease demands for diversity
However I can totally see where it’s appropriate with more generic prompts
Interesting, what's the prompt for this?
Mario as a real person
So if they've overcorrected, it's worth discussing, but make no mistake that this is a going concern for OpenAI and our beta usage is part of addressing this moreso than it is for our satisfied free play.
You could try anyone as a real person it’ll do the same thing
Yeah I know that they def care, just voicing my opinion about it
I think either change the training data, or fold your arms, when you start tampering with the actual prompts people give
It stops being fun
Like if every time someone writes “person”, OpenAI adds the word “black” or “Asian” randomly
That’s a bandaid solution that sucks
at first i thought left, but maybe it's right actually (as in fake), but i'd still go bet on left is fake since the golden ratio seems to be distorted there, so my pick is 2 is real
He revealed that both are fake
Yeah but tbh I thought both were fake because of the skewed windows & lighting, but he only mentioned one was fake, so I went with 2 to be the real one.
Point is, DALL∙E is really good and it can easily fool us with the right outputs!
well my thinking process which looks less real
but yeah that site does it too
thishumandoesnotexist
it does good humans
Ikr, people been using that for fake profiles lol
What's the daily prompt? Where do I find what's the theme for the day?
📌
Ah okay, thank you
i made a small tutorial on #❌┃prompt-help how to achieve showcased car brands
with light effects, smooth painting
chrome
relfections
if u feel lucky today ^^
Been messing around with this a bit more (prompt is Moses leading people out of Egypt)
Homer Simpson as a real person
Lmaoo
Moses the woman
Girlboss Moses
Tbf the third one for the Moses is actually probably more accurate than a white Moses
Yea
Although maybe the person on the left is supposed to Moses, not shre
Nah he got the special Moses stick
Yeah but the beard looks Moses like
Doesn't try to generate hellen keller as man for some reason even though pretty much all prompts I've done with males generated them as female first try
Inclusive Homer 😍
I don't really mind for non existing people because you can specify but for real people or characters I think that crosses a line
Exactly my feelings
That’s why I think fixing the training data is the answer, not messing with peoples actual prompts
That way for generic things like “person” it’s already diverse because that’s how it’s trained
Yeah
Instead of putting words in our mouths like “black” “Asian” whatever
This seems like the only workaround
Makes me wonder if “a man with many hands like shiva” will now generate only Indian men? Cause it used to before
From my testing it was only generatkng black people as black
Not same obv but yeah
Was trying to see if this could inadvertently whitewash actual people
Yeah you can still specify race
But if you don’t it will put races and genders into your prompt
I was just using photo of Mae Jemison and photo of hellen keller for my testing
Same gender and race every time for both
I think because those prompts don’t include “person” or something similar might not do the diversity thing
nevermind lmao
"Photo of Martin Luther King"
I think openai has to make it clear what they’re doing if they’re gonna pull this stuff
Lmao
I think they may have applied a quick fix out of fear from backlash
But is it substantial backlash if DALL-E can generate whatever race you want… as long as you specify?
Should DALL-E be able to read minds? Idk
Possibly, especially with 100k people using it
“A photo of a family” DALL-E should generate 101 variations of what a family can be so no one is offended / feeling discriminated
Idk I don't think I should have to specify that Martin Luther King is black and male though, if works fine here but with a more complicated prompt stuff could be impossible because of text length limits
I agree though there should be diversity for non existing people
Yeah this IMO is a bad result
I’ve heard even specifying the race it decides to do it’s own thing sometimes
@modern linden gave me the prompt "motion blur" and it helps out with the way I want it to look
Again, the real solution is to fix the labeled training data
Not mess with our prompts
Some guy in here was saying ppl were entitled for wanting their prompts to not be f’d with lol
well, thats because the difference in "interest"
some only wanna look at it, others for design
and some for sell
the sell angle is huge atm for this
they sell off prompts for $5/$30 nowadays
are u aware of that ?
Where at?
Lmaoo forget it
Yeah I specified a prompt as male and got a person that looked female , possibly representing trans people I guess but that gets even more complicated
I'd like to join lol
ha! 😂 nah sorry mate i cant entertain u on that. im sorry
Male and female aren’t genders
But yea I get what u mean
..most of the time
DALL-E is also confused by the term androgynous
Shouldn’t be confused by male
It signifies they are adding in words to our prompts
Literally putting words in ur mouth
Also whoever pays $10 or whatever for a prompt must be very very rich or dumb
Probably impatient people who don't want to wait for access or for other people to generate their prompt or their prompt sucks and no one is generating it
Yeah ig
"An overhead greyscale photo of a large crowd in the streets of Washington D.C, listening to an african american man in his late 50s with his fist raised, with a crew cut hair, wearing a professional black suit and tie, standing at a podium with a microphone. Documentary photo. Sigma 40mm f/1.4 DG HSM"
Not sure if DALL-E is restricted in recreating political figures (even those who passed away). With the right prompt, you can recreate anything. But not 100% copy of course.
Needed a few tries.
This is a crap way to have to generate Martin Luther king
Indeed, but it's one way to recreate him without breaking Policy. Can't even tell that it's him.
Word, we’ll same applies to fictional characters
You can no longer reference real world characters in general because of the use of racial groups as diversity props
Can't make everyone happy
indeed, it is what it is.
Yep, but a competitor sure will
dall-e is not a competitor. its a project, research
They are planning on making it a product, and they already have competitors
with the option to go that far, that is up to them
yeah ofc
thats the end game
ppl need to make money to eat too
but lets at least agree on it, that it will be done in a graceful way
That what will be done gracefully?
selling of these pieces in such way, both parties are happy
without the disgusting need of NFT's
At least we can all agree NFTs are dumb asf
OpenAI seems like it’s taking the route of putting words in peoples mouths to appease demands for diversity
they are like drugs to a healthy mind, it corrupts
And nothing we can do ab that lol
if i can help it, ill make sure to inform that person
lol
ofc im full of "pissed off feelings" but i cant approach him the same way he conducts his business, reckless.
Who is him?
Honestly whoever buys an NFT deserves it
Let them all sell it to each other and watch it plummet
Bc honestly 90% of ppl buying NFTs just want to sell it to some other idiot
ehm, i have no idea what that entails
i just wanna make nice things
and if ppl enjoy that, i like it even more
thats my reward
feels good
Some are even buying virtual lands lmao
ohnoes... Second Life all over again 😂 (remember?)
Yeah those people are very special
hahahahaha
For real, look it up, "virtual real estate NFT"
Supposed to be for the metaverse
christ ...
Does anyone actually want to live in the meta verse?
VR and stuff has been around for like 20 years now
so they wanna introduce the same system (money) into a digital world where this was the idea where it was absent of all these concepts that bounded us to a better life
Nobody wants that sht
how strange is that
Not that strange honestly, people want to insert capitalism freaking everywhere
Don’t worry, I think the meta verse isn’t gonna happen
Too much hype buildup for literally nothing
And now that all these NFTs are dying I think ppl are waking up to that
im all for digital worlds, i love...VR goggles im all for that
But do you want to spend more time in a digital VR world than real life?
VRchat was one of the weirdest but most fascinating things ive seen
friend of mine that is wheelchair bound as far i know, he basically lives in that world
he can walk in there, so yeah
go figure
Haha well, I can kinda see that
That’s still probably a little unhealthy
Doesn’t that sht mess with your eyes?
well the thing he has a sickness that is permanent. hes not going to make it with us, a well lived life.
Also we have the tech now to make our own free anarchy metacerse in the case that Facebook makes their dystopian capitalism one
And the best part is it’s digital so
hes prolly going somewhere near future
I can have my giant sprawling mansion in the anarchy verse while other ppl pay real money to have a nice “digital estate” on Facebook
if u know what i mean
I’m sorry to hear that
nah its fine, he has peace with that
but he loves this AI/3d World stuff
makes him believe for a moment, he aint in this shitty situation
It’s a great time to be alive
so, my point is, AI and 3D worlds is the best thing for ppl with certain conditions
they can do things again, that make them participate in life
thats their desire
Have you guys ever played World of Warcraft?
have a purpose
Yeah, I really hope it doesn’t become a norm for ppl who don’t need it tho
Because I can see it alienating ppl from each other
so im all for this
Living in disgusting messes in their room that they don’t have to look at
dunnow about that, but if u could make someone happy just for a brief moment, thtas worth it
I agree it’s a good thing for those ppl who need it
But it should be in moderation like everything in life
Not really, it wasn’t up to us to become a fast food eating nation of obesity
We just kinda got raised that way
Oh I’m not talking about your friend at all I mean in general
For non terminal ppl
Could be very dangerous
oh yeah ofc
obesity is a broad thing, its genetics, its mentally, its a lot of things
emotional
u cant broad stroke these ppl under the same "just lazy and fat"
but sure u can stimulate them to not eat sugar, but its so deeply woven into their life, rly hard to reverse that "picture of themselves"
luckily we got guys like u ppl, that are just acting as normal beings, not making that observing known, lol
live, and let live.
you are what you eat, and you become one with your friends. these are the major signals
It definitely has a lot to do with dirty in America
We produce extraordinarily unhealthy foods which is why we have an “obesity epidemic” in this country
It’s not just we have a lot of weird genetics in America
processed foods are the bad ones
try to step back to actual fruits and vegetables
also try to cook with steam instead
so u retain as much as possible of the vitamins
just throw in some good ol' chicken breast, rice, broccoli, peanuts and nuts
I’m not making a point about food
i do 😄
i mean it works for me, so well. so im sharing that
i managed to keep 70Kg for last 10 years, i never been fat...ever using that same food
my body just leveled out now it has the right meals
That’s awesome
im almost 40 now
My point was more broadly that we don’t choose what cultures we’re born into and what factors influence us
And the obesity epidemic in the US is a good example
not me, no sir
yeah but im so certain that its all not needed, with little bit of effort. you can be yourself. you just have to believe it, ur body is a phenomenal machine, that will adapt to you.
but sometimes, ppl are just big.
i mean in my country im the smallest mofo and im 183cm
😂
men i even had gf's that where way taller then me, that was strange
i tell ya that much
she just "knocks" on someone's shoulder coming thru the most funniest shit ive witnessed when they look up with these eyes >_>
hehe
Absolutely
But I feel bad for a five year old that eats McDonald’s every day
They don’t know any better
the kiddo didnt do any of that, thats straight up lazy parenting, however i dont wanna take away all the joy a kid needs, and fastfood is one of those little "resistance" in his life
i think they need that
i mean, we all do this. one smokes, one drinks, one eats, all in the idea of enjoy
Yeah but my pout is that it’s not lazynparenting, it’s completely normal in America
And the cycle repeats itself when those people have kids
fast food is a cultural norm here
well ..i find it hard to criticize other ppl's parenting, since im no parent myself.
so let that be said XD
I’m not either, but I think it’s fair criticism of American culture
And an example of factors infleuncing us outside of our control
If you were born into a family that feeds their kid shit, we’ll, tough luck
yep
it certainly is tough luck for many
u guys sometimes have a good prompt and u add something, totally messed up ur iteration XD
was dalle2 modified or something?
i saw a reddit post saying they changed it but i thought it was a static model
and that's bad because?
Used to be only Indian men, now we can see some blacks & asians
Not bad on its own but it also applies to real people
Prompt was photo of Martin Luther King
ok ok yes i get it but
in what way does the process change so that it produces less men and white people
it's a static model
what did they actually change
I don't know exactly I think it has to do with the way dalle receives the prompt
I get the impression it's a quick fix because so many people have access now
Call me stupid but the results of the prompt "The Mandelbrot set" has varied as well 😭
it's closer to what it should be but before it was more spiral heavy
From my testing it seems the diversity doesn't apply to everyone. An image of hellen keller generated 4 times always had her white and as a women but Moses generated once had 3 woman
Generated an image of Mae Jemison 4 times and she was also always black and a woman
this is with the prompt "King"
Also saw that it applied to relationships so gay people are represented more
W actually
we love seeing this
And also maybe some more tweaking because I have specified male and still got female before
we don't like seeing this
diversity wise it's good
but in terms of turning real people into different people
ok well "Walter White" still makes the same white man every time
Maybe they have some sliders with which they tweak how DALL-E generates stuff and they increased the random / variety slider? Which in result gifted us a woman MLK
"Niko" is still the same
aww how could i be mad at this lil guy
ok, uhm, something very strange is definitely going on
here's the results from the prompt "furaffinity"
yeah
but why does it do that
especially when you put "art featured on furaffinity" it makes furries
but without it it's the weird 3d render phantom guy
the "strange thing going on" isn't to do with the change
i dont know why it makes the panda so much
Oh
the quality of faces has 100% gone down
thats 1 prompt out of millions
i wouldnt say by much, maybe like 5%, its extremely subtle
im curious are those the same prompt
100%
hmm maybe its just that in trying to get a result that i want im making worse prompts
cuz i have to add more words now or else a king is a woman in all of them
Had to try it cause you mentioned a degradation of outputs.
tbh i tihnk the benefits outweigh the costs here, i just wish theyd announce any/all changes to them model somewhere
its hard to legit use it as a work tool if its constantly changing without notice
oops i meant the benefits are probably worth it lol just got up
guys
is it okay to post dall e images on reddit as "OC"?
or is it technically not original content?
i post them without
it's usually the person who created them who posts them nowadays anyway
ahh
because the subreddit i wanted to post something only had 'repost' and 'oc' art related
Tag it as oc then. Repost is probably for when it's been posted to the same Subreddit before
"an annoying corporate person calling somebody in the phone"
Now everyone's represented (-ish)

yeah
People thought the car be the death of horse and buggy drivers
it's not like dall-e's the first anyway, it's just that openai is behind dall-e which hypes up a lot
well the horse still exists just not for purpose, rather 'art'
The loom machine was going to put weavers out on the street
There will always be artists
ai will replace images and videos for mass-use though, but art will still exist yeah
the car did replace the use/purpose of horses
but they are still there for "decorative"/traditional purpose
Painting van Gogh replicas is still a viable business.
Humans are the horses of the future 😂
btw on Instagram i started to check if random posts are dalle or normal, anyone else !? 😄
Humans will be kept in museums like the historical artefacts they are
DeviantArt will be back online again soon.```
_> in the middle of an upload
awesome
lol
Free cloud storage
Hi everyone — re: more diverse outputs on generic people description prompts!
We’ll elaborate more on the what/why/how tomorrow, but one thing I wanted to call out for now is that none of the changes we make, ever, are final.
As you’re likely aware since you’ve been on this research preview rollercoaster with us, we’re constantly iterating on all parts of the system based on feedback and data. Acking the buggy outputs and that we’re already working on improving it!
Can we get release notes when things change that affect end users?
I understand things are subject to change but it would be nice to have a warning
yes! I scheduled a release notes email for tomorrow morning explaining this change and teasing a couple others.
for this specific change we wanted to experiment a bit to ensure nothing breaks before announcing it & everyone starts trying relevant prompts
Ah, classic Friday night change rollout
Not sure why people put stress on themselves like this
Hopefully discord invites included? Let's welcome those 100k(?) 👀
I think this will be an ongoing challenge in which for us to globally announce something, we’d like to make sure we’ve gathered more data on it + slowly ramp up.
So going forward some A/B tests may/will affect a subset of users at any given point prior to release notes. We’ll definitely try to balance what this might mean when we’re no longer a free research preview product though!
On a second thought.. welcoming the rest of the 100k would be chaos. Lol. Guess we'll have to see
Yeah notice is super important
Its hard to use a tool when you cant trust it will be same tomorrow
or in 5 minutes
Apparently you can have 250k users per discord server. Anything over 1000 with active users would be a nightmare
The Midjourney server has 531,000 members
I'm afraid we'd need a moderation team for that
In another server we made inactive users fight to stay on the server by putting them in a Gladiator free for all
yeah TBH I’m a bit scared as to what adding XXK users will do to this server
we are so lucky to be here, ya i agree though haha
poor natalie
I think the invite only system keeps trolls out which goes a long way. If you have a bot to automatically verify someone as a dalle user it should be fine. The only issue is that chat can move very quickly with a lot of users

