ha ha you bet
#[Helm] New Unit Megathread
storm willow
250% x (1+136.8%)
Treasure = SR 15 too so add that doll multi there (additively)
I said she could deal as much as Alice during burst (PVP) for a reason
pine echo
250% x (1+136.8%)
is this formula right for her auto dmg
and this would be lvl 10 burst?
oh right there's doll, but wouldn't change it that much
storm willow
what is 7898
pine echo
her s2 proc
pine echo
dmg gain isn't that big ig, if I do 10 hits of that + 1 burst hit
like 7.7% or something
pine echo
water-weak auto helm 10/10/7
10/10/10
tbf the second 10/10/7 run had a ton of crits where it mattered
but it seems like a 7% dmg increase at best
the setup I choose to run also had a lot of variability
my 2 burst 7 runs were about 4.5-4.6bil
my first burst 10 run was 4.7
but the next three were 4.5-4.6
the last one I did for 10/10/10 is about the same as the first, prob just crit rng tbh
~1.5bil personal -> ~1.6bil personal is roughly the diff
barren sand
Does quantum cube affect Helm's skill 1?
hexed jetty
of course it does
hexed jetty
of course it does
don't listen to this guy, he's a dumbass
S1 14% is flat burst gen
quantum applies on the full charge gain
teal kayak
guys what team does helm usually go with? i have this but idk if she's like a support or needs to be dps
ivory harbor
guys what team does helm usually go with? i have this but idk if she's like a su...
Helm is more of a support
teal kayak
Helm is more of a support
ohhhh i see'2 so like replacement of naga right? as long as i have phase 3 treasure she can heal large quantity
ivory harbor
Yeah
teal kayak
okiii thanksss
cedar junco
ohhhh i see'2 so like replacement of naga right? as long as i have phase 3 treas...
if u have phase 3 then helm is also a good dps for water weak bosses
because currently we dont have many good water dpsers
teal kayak
ohhh only ludmillia right
quiet sigil
ohhh only ludmillia right
QEQ is also a good one
Though unlike xLud, she’s pretty much only used in Water weak
quasi spoke
how much dmg increase does phase 3 have compared to 2?
void swan
how much dmg increase does phase 3 have compared to 2?
If looking at burst damage alone, very significant. Since, she x8s the burst nuke, and adds significantly enhanced damage to her next 10 normal shots.
If looking at overall Helm damage output, she's actually been invested enough to rival and beat X Ludmilla (unknown how invested that X Ludmilla was) against Water-weak boss.
What % dmg gain that is, idk, but if you have any intention of getting Helm to be a dps carry against a Water-weak boss, it's a must.
Otherwise, it's essentially 0% dmg increase if you only use her as a non-bursting support (aka winggirl or subdps).
Pre-treasure Helm, lv.10 burst, the relevant text:
Deals 1237.5% of final ATK as damage.
Post-treasure Helm, phase 3, lv.10 burst, the relevant text:
Deals 8236.8% of final ATK as damage.
Charge Damage Multiplier ▲ 158.4% for 10 round(s).
storm willow
Helm Phase 3 doesn't increase healing
void swan
also for OL is it 4x atk, elem, and max ammo?
Pins. #1329328343014703145 message is the pinned message atm though
I think that recommendation in the pins treat her as a 8/12 and leaving the remaining 4 to QoL or luck
Since, especially if the raid boss doesn't need heals, Helm might find herself being offburst doing poor damage anyway
teal kayak
oohhhh okay thank you!!
cedar junco
how much dmg increase does phase 3 have compared to 2?
Agains kraken full auto, she is bursting, my helm does a little bit more than double the dmg going from p2 to p3
Agains harvester ai where she is used as dps, iirc it also does a little bit more than double
If u use her as off burst then off no dmg change
cedar junco
Agains kraken full auto, she is bursting, my helm does a little bit more than do...
~225m to ~ 500m
pine echo
sounds about right from what I remember
quasi spoke
If looking at burst damage alone, very significant. Since, she x8s the burst nuk...
thats good for me, as im just rerolling her trying to get good OLs, if she is xlud tier with similar investment it looks good, thanks
hoary flame
well, gotta test her for harvester at next reset after I get last piece for phase 3
past sorrel
Has anyone got data on how much % leveling skill 3 lvl 7 to 10 increases her dps? Currently trying to choose if I want her or mast ultimate maxxed
brave sun
Scroll above
lapis hinge
How much difference is there between S1 Lv.7 and Lv.10 for PVP?
lapis hinge
hexed jetty
the benched unit for this raid?
marble stream
the benched unit for this raid?
Let naga alone bro, wall boss raid no friendly with my gal
gusty spoke
damn whels
prime pagoda
gusty spoke
the cake is good but not worth $60
daring mirage
visual vale
monhun even cheaper from third party vendors too
gusty spoke
can you recreate helm gacha skin in mh?
hoary flame
How much difference is there between S1 Lv.7 and Lv.10 for PVP?
-0,65 per level from lvl 10 IIRC, it might mess up some teams while others can work as usual
static grail
the curtain and towel now move in her gacha skin idle animation 
storm willow
Helm is so strong she's the 2nd strongest DPS in
- Fire Weak (Rapi - Helm - Siren - Crown - Mast)
- Electric weak (Cinderella - Helm - Siren - Crown - Mast)
- Iron weak (Rapi - Helm - Siren - Crown - Mast)
- Wind weak (SBS/Wasuka - Helm - Siren - Crown - Mast)
- Water weak (probably top 1 or 2 depend on investment)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLVeUxvltLY
orchid flax
I wonder what those teams have in common 
rain pawn
M Mast and Helm treasure are the real overspec units 
haughty mural
orchid flax
Helm is so strong she's the 2nd strongest DPS in
- Fire Weak (Rapi - Helm - Sire...
do you run QEQ or xlud as the B3 in water weak team?
storm willow
xlud
orchid flax
but the dist buff from mast 
woven bear
xlud buffs the entire team
surreal sail
Is t.helm good even at 1 star? Or need 3 star to be usable/good?
Current team for general is
Crown - siren - rapihood - mihara - healer either naga or thelm if she good
leaden pawn
Is t.helm good even at 1 star? Or need 3 star to be usable/good?
Current team f...
its not possible to get her at 1 star
u unlock her at 2 star
and yes she is good
rain pawn
I think they mean 1-star treasure, or Phase 1
Phase 2 is what is desired iirc for the burst gen
Phase 3 is just for DPS gain
remote ginkgo
Is it better to fast-shoot helm during burst?
rain pawn
Can you fire 7 times per second?
remote ginkgo
can you explain the math for that to me?
and is it the same answer if she's not the one bursting?
rain pawn
If she's not bursting, then she's a normal sniper
During her burst, she has like 687% charge damage
687% damage every 1s requires 6.87 shots of 100% charge a second to replicate
remote ginkgo
250% * (1+1.58)?
multipled, not added
even offburst, with her S2, it looks like I need to be able to attack 5x per second to break even
(69%*2.5+178.98%)/69 = 5
orchid flax
If she's not bursting, you probably have something better to do than mash helm
If she's bursting just let her auto shoot
storm willow
impossible to beat Helm full charge during her burst