[Naga] New Unit Megathread

[minor walrus]

but i think Tia kinda solve this a bit

there is good situation to use the students on

[hallow scroll]

Guess the fear I'm seeing here is if tia cover is destroyed then say bye bye to your substantial damage buff

[minor walrus]

thats why we use tia as pilot here

switch between taking damage with cover and HP/Shield Bar

her shield is HUGE

[maiden zinc]

So is deeznutz

[minor walrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946719897390563328/1155307056253902989/nikke_booba_2.gif

[maiden zinc]

Are they good in pvp?

[minor walrus]

you think im gonna click that, sit down sit down

[maiden zinc]

After test

[hallow scroll]

I thought you were gonna say boobs, Im very disappointed in you

[hallow scroll]

Naga alone not really, tia might see some niche uses, both together maybe somewhat feasible? But not really a must for pvp

[maiden zinc]

I guess

If mid why hot

[maiden zinc]

I can help you

[hallow scroll]

I guess they could be useful for the mother of all boosted scarlet burst team like tia, naga, scarlet, centi, jackal team

[minor walrus]

how about biscuit to centi

would tia reliably taunt?

[hallow scroll]

Tia would taunt pretty late

Only for 5 seconds too

[minor walrus]

u right

[hallow scroll]

If not taunting would probably be target skipped since she is RL

[maiden zinc]

Tia is probably gonna be used a rl bot and non burst cycle

[hallow scroll]

Although, do remember that since you are adding one more burst cycle, this might lead to some undesirablr outcome like getting your scarlet burst blocked by noah

[maiden zinc]

No nono

Non burst cycle

I said

2nd b1

[hallow scroll]

Just saying

[maiden zinc]

Ofc

Adding burst cycle can be good if you wanna slow burst tho

Say enemy aoe but you both have noah

[sharp horizon]

I see this recommending 2B for the raid (fire code) wouldn't Alice/Modernia be better? Since both have higher basic atk scale so they can profit more from the core atk buff? While 2B basic atk % is quite low....

Or is it because Alice,Modernia can be more useful in other team?

[atomic jay]

Well, 2 strong duo for raids

[indigo mural]

There’s one hard mode stage in chapter 23 which starts by dropping a jammer tower at beginning of combat, and it silences your squad in 3-4 seconds. RIP non-Alice bunnies

[sharp horizon]

You mean 2B and A2?

[minor walrus]

you dont have to worry, when we reach that point we already in 1.5 anniversary and plenty of nikkes to tackle it

[atomic jay]

i mean twin bunnies and twin school girls

[indigo mural]

Naga is very good standalone, her healing is worse than Rapunzel but it’s still pretty good healing. Which makes her a healer that gives ATK buff to team. Not bad. Tia will help. I’m not too worried about Tia having built-in taunt because when Tia dies, the other B1 which has to be 20s B1 will still be alive to keep the squad going

Just waiting to see if core dmg is ultra OP or what

[atomic jay]

For Naga/Tia, during boss combat, you have to dodge the whole team.

So it's not really bad or anything

though i do worry about Tia's taunt...

hopefully her defensive is as thicc as her booba

For new comp, twin bunnies should be with Alice, while twin schoolgirls go with A2

[indigo mural]

Can RLs even hit core? I forgot

[sharp horizon]

I don't think the taunt's gonna be a problem.

• she's a defender
• her burst give shield (35.07% of her HP)
• 21.96% life steal + ATK received from Naga and 32.11% basic attack buff
• Heal from Naga
  could be more than enough...

[atomic jay]

have to test though, or else players would have to manually control her sometimes to dodge

[sharp horizon]

yes

[abstract oar]

Naga still giving insane buffs

[abstract oar]

Modernia with Tia Naga is a nerf

She will have to burst

[atomic jay]

^

[abstract oar]

I gave an Alice rec right after this team

Also explaining why Alice might not see playtime with tia

It's all on how good Tia can keep her cover up

[indigo mural]

At least Missilis Tower will now have OP team just like Tetra has

Not the main interest for most of you though

[atomic jay]

Elysion meanwhile

where is Elysion meta/twin/bunnies?

[sharp horizon]

But does Modernia burst (not the center aim) core hit tho? Currently my Modernia still doesn't have an ammo overload line so if there's a lot of Rapture she do more dmg on burst... (I understand that I will lose the 5 second+~~~ that could be used to burst another unit, just asking)

[abstract oar]

unless

tia is bad

[abstract oar]

Modernia loses damage when bursting

cuz of her skill multipliers being higher (in total) than what her burst gives us

[minor walrus]

so u never burst with modernia at all in story?

[sharp horizon]

On my condition (tested on shooting range) if the Rapture are grouping she did more dmg

[abstract oar]

I dont unless really needed

[minor walrus]

[abstract oar]

high amount of enemies = more damage

for modernia

so in that case, bursting is valid

otherwise in a raid setup

nah

[atomic jay]

hmm, so A2 would need Burst more than lv 7 to survive with the twin schoolgirls

[sharp horizon]

Yeah that's what I'm saying

[minor walrus]

no

[atomic jay]

to keep her mode B on...

[minor walrus]

if they are equivalent in investment then likely not based on Gatrix math

[sharp horizon]

I'll test tmr then, to see if the burst does core hit

[atomic jay]

every time a new healer arrives: "Can she keep A2's mode B on forever?"

[abstract oar]

which burst

[atomic jay]

modernia's burst he mean

[sharp horizon]

Yeah Modernia's burst. I wonder if any shot in the radius that are not the center aim does core hit

[hallow scroll]

I would be more worried about them being the middest of them all simply because they are elysion

[winter cloak]

is Jaykin's full analysis out on Naga yet?

or rather, is it coming soon*

[copper reef]

@unkempt shard sucks

[winter cloak]

strong opinion whitename

[copper reef]

[minor walrus]

blue name

[icy jackal]

Oh so naga is mid? Good to know

[dusk kestrel]

Naga without Tia would be mid?

[supple furnace]

so do we trust blue names or white names xD

[icy jackal]

My observation tells me that white names have better opinions than blues in this thread. So trust whites.

[autumn ice]

[copper reef]

my favorite color is white

[maiden zinc]

White pantsu

[unkempt shard]

What
Leave me alone
I'm sick

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tired-priconne-sleep-sick-gif-24683315

[copper reef]

[maiden zinc]

Hi sick

Where is well

[short mason]

speaking of alice, does she need 100% charge speed or does she only need something like 99%?

[supple furnace]

99

[radiant pawn]

You don't need 100% but I don't think exactly 99% works.

[short mason]

guess another lvl on s1 won't hurt. I'm lacking books

[warm valley]

99% works

but what gets you to 99% is apparently not well defined

some say 7.2% cs, others sya 7.3%

[copper reef]

[twin zinc]

is it worth to use naga without shield apply?

[warped valve]

why would you? you’re then missing half of her kit and that half is arguably the better half

[faint wyvern]

i have pulled naga, 70times didnt get her, even no one SSR struck

i have 350 gold tickets, my plan is using 200 for either Naga/Tia and got other from pull but my gems are lacking (1,800 gems for now)

i just dont want to use gold ticket so tempting to skip, yes wishlist sounds scam but i prepare worst scenario by hoarding mold, blue ticket, and friendship

should i use gold ticket for this tia/naga banner or not

p.s: my PvP salary is 2700 next week

[minor walrus]

just pull, but wait till tia comes out, then throw some tia banner and some naga banner, slowly, just cope u know

see which one pops first

[faint wyvern]

lack of gems sir, with next week i think only gathers 6000 gems (just 20 pulls)

and if i could i just dont want to use gold tickets

[minor walrus]

ye just pull

no gold tickets

[faint wyvern]

if doesnt get them?

[minor walrus]

then we move on

[warped valve]

you quit the game

[faint wyvern]

okay, i quit

goodbye folks

[warped valve]

[sharp horizon]

Just tested, she did hitting core even if it's not the center aim

nothing important here, it's just my curiosity last night

[atomic jay]

Because any single target that is manually aimed can hit the core. Her burst is just basically aiming at multiple targets.

[sharp horizon]

I'm not manually aiming this is on auto

[minor walrus]

not mid

[unkempt shard]

well this is weird

prydwen got rap in reddit for their review

but my views are
kinda the same

how should i word this

[abstract oar]

You don't even have the review yet tho

[unkempt shard]

Yeah, that's why

I'm thinking on how to word it

You stupid

Fucking

[abstract oar]

How does it feel being able to say this without a mute

[unkempt shard]

Made me cum twice tbh

[somber crest]

imo
Core Damage Buff can be heavily diluted depending on team comps or stage.

• it's not like there are options in team comp that make core damage diluting less or more. your b1 options are liter, doro, or volume. then 2 b3

[abstract oar]

Volume introduces crit rate where more crits = worse core damage buff
Stages like boss battles without core will kill the core damage buff

[somber crest]

volume cri buff is insignificant in damage contribution for most teams. you want to write complete information but it feels nit picking

[maiden zinc]

Nikke.gg caught downbad

[abstract oar]

#1009848369583243315

[hallow scroll]

To be more specific, crits and core damage buff is located in the same damage group, so they are additive, not multiplicative (more crit + more core damage do not result in the best gains relatively speaking)

[unkempt shard]

youve not seen anything yet lmao

[blissful ledge]

woah

[maiden zinc]

ok dm me a video then

[hollow thorn]

why thursday felt so long

[short mason]

what girl needs at least one max ammo OL again? Tia or Naga?

[maiden zinc]

It's monday

[warped valve]

both

[icy whale]

resilience lv7 is enough to keep s2 permanently on with no OL

[copper reef]

dam ppl hating on the prydwen naga ratings

when i think its not even that bad

not like noise SSS in bossing

[warm valley]

noise best bosser

most damage

[hallow scroll]

I mean its reddit so whatchu gonna do?

[minor walrus]

someone gotta play bad guy here

[steady iris]

I'm already the bad guy. Since I'm coping that tia will be ruined by her continuous taunt

[minor walrus]

nah u just the guy who doesnt know what biscuit does during her burst

[steady iris]

Biscuit isn't invited

What will the team look like tho?

Isn't jk suppose to be bunny 2.0?

Now it's jk+ dog girl is bunny 2.0?

[minor walrus]

my pve team is whatever works with the stages
raid team would be the top 3 guys ez

[vital rune]

Sounds nice for raid team

[copper reef]

[noble minnow]

between doro/liter and bunnies/naga+tia
who's a the better match for each other?
is it better to put doro with naga/tia
and save liter w/ bunnies

[bold island]

so is it confirmed the school girls are as good as the bunnies?

because ive got some gems to burn and a bunch of gold tickets to pity a pilgrim

[sharp horizon]

they still have down side that they become much less effective when fighting a boss with no core tho

which is only a fews boss have no core.

[short mason]

very funny that they're using modernia as the SR boss to shill the jks when she technically has no cores

unless they're changing her to work differently

[warped valve]

they would still perform well against boss without cores assuming tia s1 can proc all the time, which is the next big question

will tia s1 still work if cover is full or completely destroyed?

as in, naga and tia cover recovery skill still activates even though there’s no cover to repair and then it triggers tia’s s1

will it be like that?

[steady iris]

cant confirm anything until people can get their hands on tia and see it in action

but people like the numbers

[indigo mural]

No idea about as good, but:

• Has weaker healing than Blanc, and no indomitability, but has ATK buffs and core dmg boost.
• Has a tank which is obsessed with cover and shields.
• Lets you bring Dorothy without losing all ability to repair cover, or you can just use Liter to get even crazier with cover repair.

It’s an alternative to the meta Liter + Blanc + Noir squad template, and doesn’t ruin last bullet comps. S Anis would enjoy being with Naga & Tia… If it doesn’t manage to beat the liter + bunnies, then at least it’s still a pretty good alternative.

Has the same problem as bunnies if you don’t use Alice: Terrible start-of-battle burst gen compared to using Centi.

Because of core dmg boost, I’m curious about how Naga + Tia + Privaty will turn out for Privaty smashing cores with last bullet during AoE stun

[warm valley]

would sanis enjoy being with the core damage buffers?

sgs have like a 10% core hit rate

[copper reef]

well if theres no core to hit

s. anis scarlet would be decent with them

prob would need to forego the cdr unit tho

[warm valley]

[sharp horizon]

[icy jackal]

[dusk kestrel]

[daring finch]

[silent stirrup]

Okay now I can say only trust piss coloured names

They on the verge of being banned for sharing the forbidden knowledge

[warped valve]

[icy jackal]

I’ll trust piss color names more than blues at least

[silent stirrup]

Blue name bricked my account

Convinced me to skip Mast (I had no pulls)

[icy jackal]

Same, blues were all about how mid mast was

[silent stirrup]

Wishlist will fix us man

Fml I'll get the next liberation Nikke before Mast

Why did I skip Mast

[warped valve]

for UR, schoolgirls will probably powercreep mast off any teams

[minor walrus]

Someone never get jackal from wishlist

[silent stirrup]

Anniversary Beseker DPS, triple Scarlett damage, Mast back forever

You can't escape

[swift geyser]

Intern-kun, please. We need little ucky fucky wucky real bad. Just release Tia already few days early on accident...

[languid copper]

1 more day for her release

[indigo mural]

She probably doesn’t, was just mentioning it as a lesser of two evils

Tbh it’s all speculation because without Tia out to test synergies and real outcomes with, anyone saying anything about her and Naga are guessing or oblivious to their fallacy of trusting ShiftUp authored skill descriptions at face value

[indigo mural]

0LB is always the safest bet on any Nikkes you have doubts over Lesson learned

Unless you hit a streak of 300 pulls without getting the pick up Nikke, forcing you to gold ticket her

[silent stirrup]

I will practice this now

Wishlist will clutch for Marci and Mast

[swift geyser]

[hollow thorn]

Me wishlisting jackal from february and never got her be like: 🤡

[silent stirrup]

only got Poli recently aswell

Wishlist is a scam

Once a Nikke gone GG's

[icy jackal]

Funny enough, some are advocating skipping naga Tia for anniversary and just putting them on wishlist cuz it’s that easy. Like hey, good luck getting both units in two years.

[chilly locust]

I stepped away from the game for a few weeks so forgive my ignorance, is Naga a limited unit or will she be put in regular gacha?

[indigo mural]

Some people lucky so they feel it’s correct. They skip a banner, unit comes out into ordinary pool, and sooner or later maybe in 2 weeks at most, they somehow recruit her. Maybe this happens three times in a row. They don’t realize that that they were really lucky… 💀

[indigo mural]

She will be put in regular pool

[icy jackal]

To me it’s more understandable if it’s just a single unit, but to rely on wishlist for a duo unit where having only one of the units makes them heavily nerfed is so risky

[chilly locust]

Ty. Is that the deal with the previous two I missed?

[icy jackal]

Pretty much all previous units except for summer units, Christmas units, and collab units are in regular pool

[chilly locust]

Thanks.
I know Naga is good to say the least, but I got so burnt and drained in the 2B hunt that I'm considering being one of the people not rolling on her at all and building what I can for anniversary.
It's a relief to know there's some chance I can get her later if I don't roll.

[indigo mural]

If you’re lucky, you can even accidentally pick her up in an off-banner hit while pulling Anniversary banners

Or friendship pulls, SSR molds… but 2B, she’s completely gone now

[icy jackal]

Yeah, I’d say if you low on gems and don’t particularly care about being competitive, it’s fine to just skip and leave it all to luck.

[icy whale]

You can already test Naga's full kit. It's Tia that's a mystery.

[indigo mural]

Yeah but bear in mind when you see us talking about luck.. it’s rather obscene luck at this point. There will be 100 Nikkes in the game, including Rs and SRs, after Tia’s release. A bunch are limited edition or not-in-pool, like Neve and Rei. But any SSR hit of a specific Nikke is going to be in the sub-1% odds when we’re talking about off-banner hits, or 1/15 if it’s Wishlist, and 0.50% is reserved for Pilgrims.

[autumn ice]

[minor walrus]

Tldr tldr :
Go all in students

[copper reef]

https://tenor.com/view/shigure-ui-dance-ui-mama-ui-shigure-vtuber-gif-4939288219381501125

[dusty chasm]

coping 101

[abstract oar]

Its hard enough for some people to get them on rate up

[tawny wedge]

If naga and tia on alice team u don't have to lv alice skill 2 anymore

[abstract oar]

And people think wishlist is ideal

[tawny wedge]

True I get viper liter centi

[dusty chasm]

i already have it maxed

[abstract oar]

Except that Naga Tia isn't ideal for Alice

[tawny wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shigure-ui-ui-beam-anime-vtuber-gif-17295011974953200591

[tawny wedge]

Oh?

[abstract oar]

Tia may require management like noise does sometimes

[tawny wedge]

Expected from alice main

[abstract oar]

Well, let's just wait till tomorrow lol

[tawny wedge]

Yeah see how it goes first

I haven't lv naga skill yet

Still trying to triple 10 2b

[abstract oar]

I 4/4/4ed Naga cuz she's definitely an option for heals over rapunzel

[tawny wedge]

Nice

[hollow thorn]

OOT, but its nice to see a fellow Alisaie fans

[minor walrus]

Hold up numbers jumping everytime i record

Not sure what make 12k7 jumps to 14k3, definitely not due to naga core buffs

12k7 seem to be the right number

So 10k6=>12k7 from naga s2

[warped valve]

14.3k probably due to modernia s1 or s2

[minor walrus]

I checked

12k7 has Giant leap s2 in it

But then this one no naga buff still hit 12k

I need some mathhead shows me dawae

Ok so 20% ish damage increase w s2 naga? Where no part and shiet

So 60% damage increased with both s1 s2 without any other factors

Am i coping too much

[short mason]

whatever happens tianaga will be a mainstay for team 2-3 for a longass time, even on no core bosses imo

[minor walrus]

All im seeing is the elites take permanent x%damage taken from the core buffs

[icy whale]

(2.3+0.4)/(2+0.4) = 1.125
14328/12736 = 1.125
Is your Naga's s2 lv10? If so it's the distance bonus difference.

[minor walrus]

U might be right, i cant tell the distance

I came up with the 20% from range test

[icy whale]

yeah the 0.4 is the assumption that your naga s2 is lv10
core hit with distance bonus is 2.3x, without is 2x

[minor walrus]

Damn wtf range bonus so huge

[warm valley]

If we get a nice b1 cdr for anni, I’m on the naga Tia Snow White combo squad

[warped valve]

it's in same group as crits and full burst

[icy whale]

still better than crit

[copper reef]

inb4 we get a b3 cdr

wait

that wud work

tia miranda naga sw b3 cdr

[warm valley]

Problem with a b3 cdr they probably would have lower cdr values

[copper reef]

not redhood

10 sec cdr

60 bps sniper rifle all pierce

[warm valley]

[copper reef]

im so giddy to pull for tia tom

and solo raid test

[warm valley]

My Tia is ready to be 444

[copper reef]

mine will be 10 4 4 on release

🙂

[hollow thorn]

chat

[warm valley]

you got 10 hours

before chat bout to pop off

[hollow thorn]

[indigo mural]

Tia is out and chat is dead

[chilly prism]

naga is the old toy, tia is the new hotness, everyone's over there

[dusty chasm]

you got range buff here and there

[minor walrus]

ye someone explained it

[foggy meteor]

Checking in, how's the data collection?

[abstract oar]

check in #1154342718353457263

Naga is more or less the same

[minor walrus]

Gatrix math seems to work out a bit more here

as i close the core gap, from 7 down to 5

the healing increase substantially and A2 maintain around 60-70%

so Naga with similar investment with A2 can keep her up well

(without any random damage hitting a2 of course)

[tribal mango]

What skill to proritize?

[minor walrus]

1/4/4 and if u get Tia then 10/10/10

[tribal mango]

Got both

[minor walrus]

10/10/10 it is

[tribal mango]

Thank you

[hallow scroll]

10/7/10 first

s2 to 10 is later decision

[reef condor]

is naga good?

[languid copper]

Pins

[atomic jay]

Hmm, who is the idea buffer for Naga besides Tia? because 100 pulls don't bless me...

[languid copper]

No one

[atomic jay]

sigh...

[warped valve]

stupid ass momo should've shut his mouth, I see a lot of people get shafted by tia banner

[minor walrus]

I told u so

[copper reef]

this is one of the worst 2% banners ive pulled on

so it was ur fault

[atomic jay]

I lost 170 pulls on both banner and only got Naga, something really fishy here...
Hopefully, ShiftUp doesn't manipulate the banner...

there is no way we are all bad luck here, right?...

[minor walrus]

No shiftup saw me revealing their dirty trick so they bribed me w mlb tia in 120 pulls

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021938647068573706/1161777763741610075/ezgif_5_4e055a48ce.gif?ex=653988db&is=652713db&hm=e6437ae9b1bd7336f157a65bc0f13919d206a74475417659ad314afcd74fff90&

[atomic jay]

TIa/Naga is the most spending banner i have ever spent since playing from day 1...

well, at least i have Alice core 6 now

[sharp horizon]

I have complained about the Gui HP getting above 50% when playing with both Tia and Naga #1154342718353457263 message
but after I tried it seem like she could be a great team for Modernia raid. Naga dmg look quite good (playing with S.Anis) and Gui hp being above 50 could be fixed by Modernia turret attacking the highest ATK unit which is my Gui in this case.

gotta wait to try in the next 2 days

[icy whale]

okay i trust you

[minor walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-ingram-jr-big-truss-big-trust-baltimore-ravens-gif-16025684

[leaden jay]

You know they do manipulate.
Same with the molds. Noboy believes they are actually ~50%.
Since I've been counting I got 0/3 pilgrims and 1/9 high quality molds. There is no way Im that u lucky.

I will go cry in my corner now.

[minor walrus]

Optimize some Bs auto comp(mid/late): #pve-team-building message

[swift geyser]

I've been playing almost since launch, I've succeeded one(1) Tower Mold. I kinda lost count but I'm positive I'm well over 20 Tower Molds deep since I've also bought some.
Failing a 50-50 coinflip that many times just doesn't seem realistic.

I'd be willing to bet they use account seeds. I have godlike luck with standard and "normal" special banners. But my Pilgrim banner and all Mold luck is ridiculously bad, way below average.

Tinfoil hat to the max

Then again I believe that'd be very illegal to do, but shiftup did get sued for manipulating rates in Destiny Child, didn't they?

[warm valley]

that's not how rng works

[copper reef]

i once flipped a coin and got heads 5 times in a row

god seeded my coin flips smh my head

[warm valley]

[icy whale]

its okay i did 125 pulls but none

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-chacha-dance-wow-gif-9101750659541413350

[daring finch]

https://tenor.com/view/not-joking-mr-beast-for-real-not-a-joke-not-kidding-gif-19514666

[crisp fog]

That core dmg increase is pretty neat on some bosses.

[winter cloak]

it balances out

tldr

[warped valve]

oh sure it balances out at floor 170-250 where climbing takes forever amirite?

[chilly prism]

it may not balance out until after eos, but if it kept going it would eventually

you have no idea when it will for your account, so best of luck

[primal sleet]

Regression to the mean is not a really good way to define luck.

Some people remain lucky over multiple occasions.

Because they might be the lucky 0.1%.

[ocean trail]

and some people are the exact opposite being the unlucky 0.1%

[abstract oar]

https://nikke.gg/naga-early-analysis/

[unkempt shard]

definitely early

[abstract oar]

I can't seem to access your tier list page

It loads but never shows the tierlist

[unkempt shard]

Data fucker

is probably

doing stuff

told him to put naga in

seems like he fucked it up again

[abstract oar]

What's that image at the bottom

[unkempt shard]

that's a ad

[abstract oar]

Oh

[unkempt shard]

fucking reta

[abstract oar]

Website broke but the ad revenue up

[unkempt shard]

when was the website not broken

and or inconvienient to navigate through

[abstract oar]

It's convenient enough

But it's hard to like

See

Cuz it's a graveyard ahh theme

[unkempt shard]

oh yeah, let's just change it to seizure flashbang theme

fuck you

[astral pulsar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif

[abstract oar]

Let's go, finally

I want to be flashbanged whenever I open it

[unkempt shard]

well i wanna suck your cock everytime i open your dms

we can't have our wants

hm. this isn't our dms

i should filter down a lil bit

[abstract oar]

That was aggressive

[unkempt shard]

i've been against people who were much more aggressive

told them i'd suck their cock in vc

they scream "Pants down, i'm waiting, fucking do it"

loss of words

i can't

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/750648094189813812.png?size=64&quality=lossless

[abstract oar]

I thought your nitro was dead for a second

Just use the emoji mf

[unkempt shard]

i think its my net being rather slow

oh wait.

no. plug in

there we go

was wondering why it was getting linked

[abstract oar]

Oh I can just check Naga ratings on your analysis

I forgot

9.4

[unkempt shard]

tis is getting the higher rating

9.4 should be ss

she's s+ combined

in my list

[abstract oar]

Hmm fair

8.4 is A?

[unkempt shard]

i think so

S

S+ is >8.5

Rupee is A

gotta have her higher than Rupee at least

not sure why ya'll have rupee at SS

[abstract oar]

Because rupee usable in hardmode

She is one of the better B2s to use

[unkempt shard]

is she really

[abstract oar]

Marciana and now Naga have changed that

[abstract oar]

Well there's a guy at ch13 with it

[unkempt shard]

amazing, one person

[abstract oar]

Says better option than dolla, no blanc/centi

[unkempt shard]

i used viper before i used bunnies

[abstract oar]

There's also a maid who pushed with rupee till he finally got noir blanc

[abstract oar]

Rupee > viper for sure

[unkempt shard]

eh, i just cared about the def down and atk up on target appearance

which rupee doesn't give def down

[abstract oar]

Rupee gives atk buffs every burst

[unkempt shard]

5 whole seconds

[abstract oar]

After a while

[abstract oar]

Matches with liter

Good enough

[abstract oar]

Yeah like viper is constant

[unkempt shard]

who cares about the waves prior before boss

[abstract oar]

Getting through ch12H with rupee is impressive

Imo

That chapter is stupid

[unkempt shard]

my s+ and ss for b2 on story is empty

[abstract oar]

Hmm, idk

Dolla is like
Pretty good for when no liter/doro

Best option

Oh I guess volume blanc should be decent as well

Cuz blanc noir do be pretty good

[unkempt shard]

already too many substitutes

for dolla

more CDR's will just make dolla more stinky

[abstract oar]

Anniv, red hood first b3 cdr

[unkempt shard]

just like how that dumb bitch marcianna

i'm a b2 healer

i'm special

next banner

naga does everything better as b2

so fucking glad i never even bothered pulling once on her banner lol

[abstract oar]

I did one multi and got her

And now no Tia on main

[abstract oar]

[brave holly]

no sex ed

[bold island]

what kinda of investment is needed for naga?

do i need OL gears on her? what about tia, is she usable with no investment?

[brave holly]

skill investments for both are pinned in their respective megathreads

for OL gear just OL don't bother rerolling

[sharp horizon]

Naga dmg is crazy

3 overload, skill 7-1-7 limit break 2

[plush horizon]

she can keep guillotine up?

[pale jetty]

I see Naga is a must have Nikke. But should i use mileage for her? of course i have Tia

[languid copper]

If u have tia yes

[winged stone]

unless you have 400 tickets, no

[short mason]

look at the guy's guillotine's HP THREE MINUTES IN
he isn't using mast to counter the heal, so guillotine pretty much doesn't have any self atk buff in that comp

[hallow scroll]

you cant even use mast to counter that in a 2-1-2 comp lol

[short mason]

exactly

[warm valley]

pretty amazing with a lvl 1 s2

still too much healing?

[abstract oar]

O yea forgot to ask

does naga buff damage to modernia's core?

[sharp horizon]

more than enough lol

[minor walrus]

Why do you think people use sw mw with Tianaga

[sharp horizon]

this is because limit break 2, 3 overload and bond lv.30. it use to be below 50% but because of this it's not anymore we can't avoid overload and bond her anyway since it's ideal

[abstract oar]

cuz they like to have hot seggs?

[minor walrus]

Pepega

[sharp horizon]

and this is core 2 Gui

[brave holly]

no I use SW with Tia Naga because the runs are so much more fucking comfy than SW comp

holy fuck SW comp is maldy and sweaty

[minor walrus]

same

i only mald the guilo shiet

i hate that shiet

[abstract oar]

So i can just use some random mf instead of tia for survival

and all good

aite

[minor walrus]

GET THE PACK NOW

WAT R U DOINNN

[brave holly]

let him remain f2p

[abstract oar]

On final day

[warm valley]

so basically, if you dont level up naga's s2, do not level up her bond or get copies

if you want to use her fully wiht fischl

[sharp horizon]

yeah

she still doing great even doing so tho. the reason S.Anis does more in this because Modernia is in close range and have no core so Gui lost some amount of dmg

this is in shooting range, it's a try that the boss jump close a few times so S.Anis gain advantage from that and catch up with Guillotine (usually S.Anis is around 90-100m)

[warm valley]

sgs are very well known

for popping off against modernia

[hallow scroll]

dont be like me and forgot to pull the bunnies on my main acc after their banner is over

[minor walrus]

extremely low investment Tianaga clear train ( by chad1616 ) , mald a lot cuz refused using a2 #questioning-centre message

[muted hound]

I'm not quite understanding something; do Centi and Naga work together?

Looks like Centi's S2 should constantly trigger Naga's skills

[abstract oar]

Only Aria, folkwang, tia, Ether can activate it

realistically
only aria and tia

very realistically
only tia

[muted hound]

So Centi's shield isn't considered a shield for Naga?

[minor walrus]

Its a frontal shield that not apply on the HP bar

U can visually see how it different from Tia shield

[abstract oar]

The blue thing is the shield

[minor walrus]

Low investment tianaga gd (sugar debuff sanis but still win ) #questioning-centre message

[bold island]

is naga worth getting by herself?

[short mason]

she's a b2 healer/atk buffer with a 20s cd

she's decent on her own

[minor walrus]

Chatterbox speed auto comp witha Tianaga (better than Noah block tech)
Tia-Sanis-Modernia-Naga-Dorothy:
+Peak investment should clear before Dorothy nuke ends (17-20s)
+high investment should clear before Dorothy nuke ends/before 2nd burst starts (19-21s)
+Medium should clear during second burst (but will face flame, should not be problem) (24-30s)
Tia-Sanis-Scarlet-Naga-Dorothy:
+similar like above, but Scarlet is weaker than Modernia, slower clear time (high investment ~21-23s)

Note: At medium investment or below scarlet team will be faster

[ruby spindle]

Maybe my investments or OL are weird, but my Modernia cleared slower than my Scarlet team by like 7 seconds. Both LB1 full auto, Naga and Tia are low-mid invest https://i.imgur.com/AHZHt4P.png https://i.imgur.com/Ii3a88m.png
Edit: nvm it's mod starting to burst that weakens that team a bunch

[short mason]

is that SI?

Scarlet is buffed by ASS.

[ruby spindle]

Yeah, the other person said that the scarlet version of the team was weaker, but in my case the scarlet version is stronger

[short mason]

it maybe has something to do with ASS' investment level. Also you're probably stepping into burst cycle 2, so that will cut modernia's damage a lot

[ruby spindle]

Oh, that's definitely what's happening then

I probably should have actually watched it instead of just looking at the result

[minor walrus]

I got a similar result from another player indicating scarlet team provide same speed

But overall i feel both team the same just investment difference

How many ammo is your mod?

[ruby spindle]

She's 699. I'm pretty sure the problem was that I went pretty deep into the second full burst so Mod was bursting for a while

[minor walrus]

Umm ye i just read bubba text, he prolly explained it right

[ruby spindle]

yep, that's what I get for not watching

[minor walrus]

Tiana OHKO GD without Miranda/Blanc #pve-team-building message

[icy whale]

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