#[Tia] New Unit Megathread

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red stag
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The only ones i can think counters tia are lv 400 chatter and cucumber

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Whatever the gatling gun rapture...

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The rest dont shoot at the speed of light or have destructible pprojectiles

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Maybe the elite spawns of motherwhale....

main glade
simple slate
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Tia may need 1-2 Ammo OL lines if she is the burst generator

main glade
red stag
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No no, i mean the one that shoots non stop

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It was cucumber

arctic lion
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so at least 4/4/4 is safe for now
but likely 7/4/4?

errant gorge
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found the first tia bug

red stag
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Just 7 S1 and delete worries

spiral field
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Are we still waiting on solo raid in 4 hours to see if modernia has some stupid element invincibility shield?

red stag
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inb4 no shield but warp at set time, wings broken or not

simple slate
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can i have a B1 cdr healer

red stag
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pepper × vomule

dawn saddle
red stag
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make the thiccest, ass jiggle oppai nikke that heals and CDR

errant gorge
worthy kayak
arctic lion
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why 7 S1?

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there's a specific reason for it right

white vale
arctic lion
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it eliminates her burst delay?

red stag
simple slate
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i thought this cdr issue wont happen , i have s1 lv10

red stag
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wtf did you do

arctic lion
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wait, I thought Liter took care of that

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since she offers CDR as well

red stag
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liter is build up CDR

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but...

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on the 3rd burst is 8s liter

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and 14s tia

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cuz 7×2

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still not enuogh

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lv 4 is tight WITHOUT liter

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10 ×2 for 20s CD

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lv 7 being -26s = i sleep in peace

worthy kayak
safe canyon
simple slate
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not happen with liter/dorothy

red stag
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i dunno meng... i tested in SI where BS jumps a few times and i constant double B1

worthy kayak
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see if the stack fell off or not

peak saffron
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What OL stat is good for tia

worthy kayak
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Never mind

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There are 2 stacks in the sshot

dawn saddle
red stag
simple slate
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really like these 5 for new campaign push
A2 clean up, Mod take full advantage to focus damage as much as possible, Modernia burst is ok, she still clean stuffs and still duck good dps off burst, just need to see which burst to use first depend when Elites spawn
Scar would be substitute for Modernia, but not as good as modernia
Could roll Sanis into either but i haven't found a good map to do this yet

dawn saddle
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just put it on her

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ammo is what she wants tho

peak saffron
dawn saddle
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if yes, why not xD

versed canopy
red stag
simple slate
peak saffron
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I just horde them tho

dawn saddle
versed canopy
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okay then

red stag
safe canyon
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2nd burst rotation with alice...

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s1 lvl7

dawn saddle
vagrant oriole
versed canopy
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my browser setup to always visit https too

red stag
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i dont touch any setting of my browser since 2006 lol

simple slate
red stag
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isnt alice tied with maxwell?

simple slate
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no

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for campaign no

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Tianaga performs pretty well in non-wall stages here

peak saffron
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imo

simple slate
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I just said for 5s and tia is ded

simple slate
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I just like a2 a bit more here, just not the case everytime

simple slate
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so in this case i would try to use Scar now

simple slate
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right into a mega alice stage

mild beacon
glacial sluice
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Well fuck, I got her in 40 rolls. My luck is nasty for bunnies 2.0

simple slate
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enough cope for today, time to cope for pilgrim to enhance these student potential

covert wagon
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how are tia naga vs bunnies

vagrant oriole
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how can i avoid tia fucking dying from her taunt

tame wagon
dawn saddle
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Yeah @simple slate idk man

Tia SS is sus

spiral field
simple slate
dawn saddle
simple slate
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be fair with them

vagrant oriole
tame wagon
dawn saddle
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SS is more fitting

simple slate
dawn saddle
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SSS no way

simple slate
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what make Bunnies has another S?

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your chair?

spiral field
red stag
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eh?

tame wagon
red stag
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arent they all SSS when "wrestling"?

dawn saddle
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Well, bunnies are the best alt
you need burst gen? u go centi priv
u dont need burst gen? u should go Blanc noir

Tia will die a lot

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A lot

simple slate
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so are bunnies comp

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at the gap points and walls

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they dont survive either unless u bring our your chair

tame wagon
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the invulnerable is insanely clutch

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lol

simple slate
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yeah 20% clutch

spiral field
tame wagon
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you can just reset an unsurvivable situation till all shots go to the invulnerable unit

simple slate
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i mean for most veteran players, the alice bunnies will remain supreme

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but not for vast majority

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on phone

tame wagon
spiral field
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Closer to top 1% actually

glacial sluice
dawn saddle
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Also like

A2 helps a lot in burst gen

dawn saddle
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And i am very good in manualling alice myself btw
I only gaming chair on solo raid

tame wagon
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SS is on campaign is plenty generous already

spiral field
tame wagon
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with that damage buff you can turn on mod burst and go ham

dawn saddle
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Naga isnt moving from her spot honestly

maybe demotion in Boss (Adds)

safe canyon
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deadge global taunt really useful in campaign, depend on your iframe skill

dawn saddle
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good luck iframing 30 or so raptures

tame wagon
dawn saddle
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hitscan raptures

simple slate
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like something like this in the campaign (CP gap peaks and walls) will not likely change at higher
but at acceptable gap, Tianaga can be there, ok fair SS if u account everything a player would use to push limit

dawn saddle
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Liter centi scar mod blanc
what a guy

tame wagon
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lol the low cp clear thing
mine is broken

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i cant view it anymore

simple slate
simple slate
tame wagon
simple slate
tame wagon
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mmkay

dawn saddle
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Also like, knowing how manual heavy tia can be in some situations
you cant pair her with a main carry (Alice) who does an insanely well job

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Tia is a must-have nikke for everyone. I recommend:
F2p should get one copy, which should be enough.
For low spends, one copy is enough as well, however they may get dupes if they plan to be competitive in Raids or want extra CP for campaign, or if the wanna raise their pp by looking at Tia's mlb wallpaper

visual panther
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So this is where we talk about the pair as a whole?

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Do we have a name for this pairing, btw?

errant gorge
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jk, gyaru, or schoolgirls

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i prefer the last tbh now

visual panther
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We have "Bunnys" for Blanc/Noir.

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Schoolgirls sounds... icky

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How about Tiaga?

dawn saddle
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Use that if u want

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to each their own

visual panther
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Gyaru is good as well

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Anyway.

spice trout
visual panther
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Bunny vs Gyaru?

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I feel a thesus coming my way. My body is ready.

valid cedar
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Pulling more dupes for low spender? I wish I was that lucky lol, ended up burning my golden ticket that I was saving for anniv

red stag
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welp...

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After the 3rd burst you got a perfect cycle

tame wagon
tame wagon
red stag
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i just stick to JK

tame wagon
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nvm

red stag
vagrant shoal
visual panther
tame wagon
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it's a short for schoolgirls in japanese

red stag
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JK = Jyoshi Koukousei = High school girls = Tia & Naga

tame wagon
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highschool girls ye

visual panther
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Diesel hater got me on the edge of my seat. I can't play the game until I see what he posts.

lament crane
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I vote tiga or jk

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Gotta keep it simple

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Who want to spell out gyaru?

tame wagon
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noone

visual panther
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What about "Gals"?

simple slate
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what about you unblock me instead?

red stag
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no

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too english

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ew

visual panther
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Japan uses the term

lament crane
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Gals is too general

red stag
visual panther
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My first girlfriend is a Gal

visual panther
red stag
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell...

visual panther
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Plus them vs Bunnies

red stag
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if you dont have bunnies, get em
if you got bunnies, no rush
if you wanna high rank SR or help in UR, get em

visual panther
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Don't cut off Dieseil. I want to read what he's writing.

simple slate
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Tell him if u got Jackal from wishlist yet @dawn saddle

visual panther
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But I'm sure you are right.

versed canopy
dawn saddle
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Why Tia is a must pull.
tldr: Tia Naga pair is God-like for any situation where Tia can keep her cover intact, providing more buffs than even blanc noir. Great choice for bossing, situational for campaign: the situation being stages where Tia can keep cover and/or herself alive.

Tia straight up has some downsides:

  • Taunts all enemies with a high uptime on the taunt, causing her to be micromanaged and manualed for best chances of survival situationally. This also discourages use of other Manual heavy nikkes, notably Alice.
  • Restricted flexibility since naga needs to be paired with her for Tia's best chance for survival, similar restriction applies to Blanc and Noir however.
  • Needs another B1 cdr unit to be paired with her due to re-entering burst 1 stage, and hence the team comp is restricted to a 2-1-2 setup, which means Modernia, the best option to get core hit buffs on, is essentially nerfed for this team comp in bossing.

However, Tia and Naga together will provide more buffs for your team than any other pair (yes, even blanc noir) could dream of providing, and that too with insane uptime on those buffs. If you can successfully get past the problem of Tia managing to keep her cover or herself alive throughout the constant taunting, then there is simply no better choice to use than of Tia and Naga. They're simply just too good in cases where Tia doesn't die, which will probably be the case in bossing. Hence, Tia and Naga for Solo and Union Raids will be a force to be reckoned with, and will definitely see playtime. As opposed to this, for campaign, even though they both are providing such insane buffs constantly, you will face the problem of Tia's survival. However, I would like to reiterate that if Tia can manage to keep her cover alive, or in general just stay alive through the taunt while also shooting and providing burst gen, there is no better option to use than Tia and Naga.

versed canopy
visual panther
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So the Gals with Liter?

dawn saddle
visual panther
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Oh right, let me go pull

dawn saddle
visual panther
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Of course

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I was thinking of the Cover Recovery

dawn saddle
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but for Raids, I would use liter with blanc noir

nimble silo
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Just full OL5 Tia and Naga with defensive stats and i wanna see that gal dyingDrake

visual panther
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Alright, I'll give both a pull.

peak saffron
dawn saddle
nimble silo
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This is not the flex section bitch

peak saffron
visual panther
dawn saddle
peak saffron
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Do yk what in what scenario bunny girls might excel in tho

visual panther
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I was gonna get it

peak saffron
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Compared to tia/baga

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Naga*

peak saffron
# visual panther sorry

It took me 40 pulls to get her, but it was my first summon sesh where each multi I got at least 1 ssr

trim pawn
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bunnies is more versatile with teambuilding

dawn saddle
trim pawn
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against any boss, any situation you can just slap liter+bunnies+2 dps that is not summer anis, you will still do relatively well

peak saffron
trim pawn
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tia naga is more restrictive in teambuilding and more niche, but if the niche's conditions are met, they're better than bunnies

visual panther
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Diesel made it clear that you need another B1 to work with them

peak saffron
visual panther
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Thus they are a 2-1-2

dawn saddle
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Ok
Finished pushing 20 tribe tower levels with blanc noir

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Time for Tia Naga to push the very same levels

simple slate
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he gave the easier stages for blanc noir

peak saffron
simple slate
dawn saddle
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Different account

trim pawn
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anyone tested if tia s1 still proc even if cover's full

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or completely destroyed

nimble silo
dawn saddle
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Damn the earlier levels are insanely easier

Core damage buff is insane

trim pawn
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fr fr

nimble silo
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the cover doesn't even need to take dmg

trim pawn
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then it's busted

nimble silo
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if you spam tia rocket in the beginning it'll activate the atk buff

trim pawn
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that is disgusting

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ngl

dawn saddle
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Works if full
Doesn't if destroyed

simple slate
dawn saddle
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What's insanely notable is how much damage the team is doing outside of burst AdmiOno

nimble silo
peak saffron
trim pawn
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he full auto'd

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full no brain mode

simple slate
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Just want to make sure she taunts

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So i can get tia the bombs and record the clip

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Pls like and sub

peak saffron
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Is it worth to get Tia's burst charge up just for easier auto

dawn saddle
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We'll find out on stage 160 I guess how well Tia Naga handle themselves deadge

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Blanc noir had trouble against mace

spice trout
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Btw does the qte damage fail like from blacksmith bypass shield? If not doest that mean naga tia offer a slight cheese tactic incase your team firepower is lacking for early players?

trim pawn
spice trout
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Holy sh-

simple slate
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Lets see in few day with train or Modernia

peak saffron
simple slate
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Omgg modernia

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Lazer is blocked

spice trout
dawn saddle
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Damn mace is troubling

trim pawn
simple slate
trim pawn
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doesn't matter if they don't have core

spice trout
# simple slate They are good salemans

Also remember when modernia challenge mode respawn her core , proceed to nuke then followwed up by quick qte not long after stun? If its on Solo raid too.... Naga Tia will 📈

peak saffron
dawn saddle
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@simple slate BRO MACE IS FUCKING TIA UPwahahaha

trim pawn
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no, it's just straight up a damage amplification effect. it doesn't matter if boss has core or not

dawn saddle
simple slate
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I meannnn

spice trout
simple slate
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Ok u got 1 boss that counter hard on Tia taunt

peak saffron
trim pawn
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Mast is pretty much out of UR

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with this

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bunnies
novel
schoolgirls

dawn saddle
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@simple slate i beat it but
yeah, it is a bit harder to use

i had to do exactly what i thought i would, need to try and ensure tia holds taunt when she's in trouble

simple slate
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What if in 2 days, a fresh new player enter modernia fight with Tianaga and not have enough damage to prevent lazer?

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I need to see if team will get stunned, maybe 2 lazer is a bit much

worldly shadow
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very cute

spice trout
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I have 290 gold ticket and on edge to gold ticket tia or not

worldly shadow
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dont

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unless you're whaling

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cause anniversary is literally in a month

dawn saddle
worldly shadow
spice trout
worldly shadow
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lol

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i just remember it as a cute one compared to all the bs im dealing with now

worldly shadow
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you can with the power of credit

spice trout
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Aaaa

Anniv free 100 pull pls ScarletCopium

red stag
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nah meng, thats only for new players

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100 free pulls and 1 SSR every 10 pull

trim pawn
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what is blud waffling about

red stag
dawn saddle
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Skill priority:
Skill 1 > Skill 2 = Burst
7 or 10 / 4 / 4

dawn saddle
spice trout
dawn saddle
red stag
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AdvVoucher & Gem JKs, GoldMileage pilgrims
worry free gameplay

spice trout
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Me gold ticket A2 was a mistake ShiftyDed

spiral field
simple slate
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u need skill priority on the pin @dawn saddle

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questions raising

red stag
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shhhh let them think that their heals and shield will save them in pvp DEF

simple slate
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i didnt read guide this time thats what happened

spice trout
vast hamlet
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Can't choose the ground/close target no more MaxwellDepressed

dawn saddle
trim pawn
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@simple slate fuck you for cursing us, took me 100 to get Tia

spice trout
simple slate
red stag
vast hamlet
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don't think so, probably because Tia have a big burst ig, and somehow it affect Dorothy. but if you let it play on auto I think it can still pick ground/close target

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yeah basically a bug wahahaha

red stag
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oh wait

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since tia links her burst with dorothy

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does it mean that tia slaps her boobies on top of dorothy, covering her view?

spice trout
simple slate
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hmm the Tia block Doro

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is just Tia adjust Doro angle down

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just need to adjust it back

spice trout
red stag
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are there any target selectors B1 besides dorothy?

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dang,no one, not even R or SR

simple slate
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Dont think its a big issue

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U dont manualling aim e dorothy anyway

dawn saddle
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Anis

red stag
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truly a boob superiority shadowing effect Tia has over dorothy

vast hamlet
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yeah, it's not unless you play in campaign or shooting range and wanna pick the target with the most hp so that it can sustain the dmg till max dmg dorothy

simple slate
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u aim with dorothy in campaign? damn

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just let her aim the lowest hp rapture

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chill

misty pollen
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Pretty good comp against fire Doro

spice trout
vast hamlet
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I just pick the target with high hp so that it doesn't die before doro stack full...

misty pollen
red stag
simple slate
red stag
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no no she does

misty pollen
simple slate
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ye no big deal

spice trout
simple slate
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she cant put brand into the air

red stag
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she kills the evil rapture planktons in the air that cant be seen in the naked eye

spice trout
simple slate
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and if u manual her brand, u just have to adjust it back, and no one really does it anyway

simple slate
spice trout
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Ty for the info

glacial sluice
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lmao more peeps are using alice with tianaga even though the pin rec against it

dawn saddle
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If there's no need to manual Tia
Alice goes hard

simple slate
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alice with core buff of Naga

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damn she mega buffed

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i just dont play alice so i need some more info on that combo

spice trout
simple slate
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my eyes fooled me

glacial sluice
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gawd damn imagine if we are getting b3 cdr on anni. Fucking revolutionary

lament crane
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O.o I just one tapped tiaLiterSmug

red stag
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why not

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we got a powerful "support" that does nice dps

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and we got a B3 "attacker" that saves your ass with lifesteal

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whats stopping SU from slapping a CDR B3

glacial sluice
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mate I WANT a b3 cdr, in fact almost everyone does BlancStare

red stag
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no

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syuen lovers dont want B3 CDR

versed canopy
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I hope that b3 cdr not limited pilgrim too DoroEats

red stag
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there you go

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SU gonna read that and anniversary will be this

versed canopy
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Oh bo

vast hamlet
red stag
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Nvidia, liberation nikke B3 that CDR every full burst

vast hamlet
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Tia Naga Gui - shooting range 315m
I just notice that my Guillotine can't keep her hp below 50% anymore cuz I overload, bonds, limit break Naga

versed canopy
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Bricked

hardy fulcrum
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Did this guy get bullied by Diesel in pvp that he becomes best diesel hater?

glacial sluice
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it seems almost every strong b3 dps rn has some catches with tianaga rn.
gonna bet that they'll release a strong b3 on anni to work extremely well with them

vast hamlet
worldly shadow
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Tia cdr didn’t even require any micro from me

vast hamlet
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btw why Tia's burst gen is so sh/t BlancStare

worldly shadow
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not clip rl

violet mason
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just got here, so it seems naga + tia is the new height for pve.....

dawn saddle
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For PvE

dawn saddle
worldly shadow
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lol

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you deserve diesel

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for abandoning sw

violet mason
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wait what's new with diesel

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my favorite nikke :X

dawn saddle
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SW is just cooler

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Modernia is the best nikke

worldly shadow
dawn saddle
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Anis is the most fuckable

lament crane
valid cedar
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@dawn saddle So did you manage to get tia at the end?

simple slate
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definitely need a 20s b3 here so i can use biscuit to protect Tia

violet mason
errant gorge
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we need another max ammo down to all allies nikke

violet mason
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should i pull for tia & naga?....... man i wanna pull but next month is aniversary.......

errant gorge
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u should

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do u have gold pity for anni?

violet mason
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i have 90 normal tickets but only 15 special recruit ticket..

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yeah i have 415

radiant tree
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What skill to proritize?

dapper crater
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She will always be ther in regular banner

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Why rush getting her now if you have scarce resources

violet mason
glacial sluice
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yeah just wait for half a year to fish jks from the standard banner BoltKek

radiant tree
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What skill to prioritize?

errant gorge
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10/4/4 tia

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10/10/10 naga

violet mason
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i'm thinking with my pp

radiant tree
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Thx

violet mason
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man i don't even have books to lv more nikkes, that's the real reason for me to hold back.

violet mason
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the choice is hard

compact quest
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What are the chances that we'll get news on Anni char before Naga's banner is gone?

errant gorge
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low

violet mason
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zero

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Z_Nikke_ShiftyRRRR what do i do

simple slate
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What does your pp say?

dapper crater
trim pawn
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where's the Tia pvp cooks?

simple slate
glacial sluice
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autoing with tianana is just asking for it

spiral field
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My guess is just no

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simply because 1. you are wasting a slot that is otherwise better for xanne
and 2. reactivate b1 is cursed in arena due to 1s delay in autoburst

dim forge
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No, she's DOA. No remarkable burst gen, re-enters B1, and her shield doesn't block Scarlet burst. She has no value

spiral field
dim forge
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If she didn't re-enter B1 or her shield blocks Scarlet burst, she would be very good to use, but neither are the case

spiral field
tepid gale
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she doesn't block scar? weird, it looked like a full team shield

spiral field
worldly shadow
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anyone try sw with the JKs?

spiral field
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just some regular ar shots doing more damage

worldly shadow
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doesn't work with maxwell eitehr i assume?

spiral field
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yesh

worldly shadow
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so literally alice support then

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alice and maybe unknown anni unit

spiral field
worldly shadow
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yea but

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depending on the boss, a2

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though i guess a2 plus the girls works

spiral field
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if tia goes down it's most likely A2 next

worldly shadow
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yea so a2 + bunnies

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for the general solo raid boss with aprts

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then alice back to her solo team, but this time you have a taunter so you dont take 100% aggro

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tehn all the other teams are the same except novel and maxwell get moved

spiral field
worldly shadow
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alice doesn't need healing

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well i mean she does

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but she's functionally, in her previous teams for SR the healer + the tank

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so helm is not necessary, you rather keep privaty

spiral field
worldly shadow
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since im assuimng tia and alice

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are going to spread the aggro

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and thats only under eth assumption your alice can't break the parts that matter fast enough

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but most decent alices will have no trouble breaking the most dangerous parts

mild beacon
spiral field
mild beacon
worldly shadow
# mild beacon

from what im hearing, the core damage buff doesn't apply to charge shots

worldly shadow
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so my dreams of sw jk still alive?

spiral field
# mild beacon where

It was only a matter of time… First 700+m!?!
Team comp credit to authenticf2p from nikke main discord. Likely done pushing range for now but with good rng, could likely break 800m. Juicy mythical 5 stack of mobs 2nd snow white burst.

Small micro strategy includes buffering snow white shots and strategically leaving mobs low health in an attempt...

▶ Play video
worldly shadow
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i mean

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you clearly aint spend enough

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slacker

worldly shadow
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how much cs does sw need to work with litert again?

simple slate
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U adjust the release based on what u currently have

worldly shadow
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i got 0

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4.8% w/ max

mild beacon
simple slate
worldly shadow
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mmmmk 3.3%

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ty ty

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my sw will never have cs ol but thats ok good to know so ican test the comp

trim pawn
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ey yo womb

mild beacon
trim pawn
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is that really you in that union with that name?

trim pawn
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no way right

mild beacon
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gatrix legacy

trim pawn
spiral field
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rip my bad
also dang it, the mod sr is completely different lol

worldly shadow
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one thing i dont know here is the cube but its calculable

worldly shadow
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my cs cube is l6

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so close CatGoodJob

spiral field
# mild beacon smh

anyway just looking at the sr opening, I'm about to lose hundreds of millions in damage witout Naga Tia

mild beacon
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1core shot with naga tia is same damage as bunnies 1 core 1body btw

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extra 17-19m for my SW per shot

worldly shadow
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so question then

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would it be better to just run sw max for the jk team

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or still run the yulha variant

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and move max to a different team to make that viable for sr

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"he asks as if anyone has been able to test that"

mild beacon
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move mw to other team probably might be the way

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but i want to play sw mw

worldly shadow
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yea ok thats what i mthinking

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also i didn't spend a month leveling yulha s1 for fucking nothing

peak saffron
mild beacon
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summer event

peak saffron
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Baddest of all time?

peak saffron
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baddest of all time is inbetween rapi, summer helm, and marciana

worldly shadow
#

black smith

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i would say crit variance

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but dont thinkj it would give this much of a damage difference

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cause bloat

vagrant shoal
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At least Tia give shield to tank lethal hit

worldly shadow
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ovoerall damage was only 8m more for the first team

vagrant shoal
#

Yoy forgot dumb Missilis tower wahahaha

worldly shadow
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im ready for m tower

vagrant shoal
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Masochist Tower heh

simple slate
#

Tmr we will see if Tia can block Chatterbox flame

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Then it will be 2 safe auto down

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And the train auto is still not consistent atm, maybe tianaga will seal the deal

vagrant shoal
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Chatterbox is 2-3 aoe attack

vagrant shoal
simple slate
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Man never

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1 button gamin

worldly shadow
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tetra missilis and pilgrim are the easiest manu towers

vagrant shoal
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That's Elysion wahahaha

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L-ysion tower

worldly shadow
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my l tower progress is like

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20 towers worse than all my other towers

violet mason
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Bonk dump all your resource into vesti since it's the only way, i'm pretty sure they are guys out there did that Thonk

or wait till ingrid becomes a nikke cuz i will surely dump everything i have into her Z_Chikabrows

worldly shadow
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they lucky i even gave fischl ol

simple slate
simple slate
dawn saddle
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Whales usually don't have time to play the game deadge

glacial sluice
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I wonder if hit rate will become more meta soon

worldly shadow
#

he got

simple slate
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Dude got gasped everytime

dawn saddle
arctic lion
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did we determine what lv her S1 should be?

dawn saddle
arctic lion
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I hear 7 min on S1

dawn saddle
arctic lion
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looking

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ty

worldly shadow
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im happy for you

wary geode
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how is Tia? is she a good tank?

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or she taunts and dies like most tanks...?

simple slate
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Good tank toward small raptures who dont hit hard

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Loose shield in 2 hits w medium damage shots (loose buff)

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2-4 hits from medium damage she dies

wary geode
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....

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how about her dps?

simple slate
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1-2 hit directly from elite without shield she dies

simple slate
wary geode
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100 pulls, got Alice

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fcking hell....

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well, no Tia for me, 100 pulls, and only got Alice, somehow I think Tia/Naga got an RNG rig...

simple slate
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If tia doesnt die or loose cover fast

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The cover and her hp recovered really fast

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The cover is just holding on to its life

wary geode
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i see

compact quest
# wary geode how is Tia? is she a good tank?

Requires to be controlled, but if she can last long enough to get the first burst off, her usability rockets up. I'm really liking the school girls, especially since I somehow don't have Liter despite having every other top meta unit.

worldly shadow
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so which s1 is more important

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taking tia from s1 7 to 10, or naga s1 to 10 first?

gray patio
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If I have to choose between Tia and Naga which is better when solo?

trim pawn
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Tia

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both are good but I think tia has the edge a bit, she's like the noir of the pair
can function solo

gray patio
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It’s because naga kit mostly revolves around having shields right?

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And I don’t think any B1 has shields other than B2s

wary geode
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yeah, but if a B1 shield get release in a future, Naga shine more than Tia.

gray patio
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Well I doubt that will happen anytime soon this year

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Power creeping a duo already mhxthink

red stag
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that woulnd be the duo thats powercept but only Tia

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Tia already cucking you to use another B1

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instead of having an off-burst B1~B3

solemn lotus
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For Tia's S1 is lvl 7 basically mandatory?

red stag
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ye

solemn lotus
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ok ty

worldly shadow
#

this si still debateable right

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unless its a b1 shielder with cdr

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more likely to get a b1 cdr unit w/o a shield, than a b1 team tia like shielid + cdr

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so still pretty hard to powercreep unless we get a b3 cdr

safe canyon
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anyone wait for tia burst in 2nd rotation or just skip her?

red stag
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Lv 7 S1?

safe canyon
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yes... still 2-4s delay in 2nd rotation

red stag
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without liter or volume?

safe canyon
red stag
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cuz i waited 1s for volume

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tho if youre waiting on liter/volume and not Tia, its the norm

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Lv7+ tia = 14s CD while every other nikkes are on 20s CD, Liter/Volume being 18s

red stag
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eh...

safe canyon
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need to wait 2s for tia burst

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dont know what wrong?

red stag
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manual issue

safe canyon
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💀

red stag
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do it fully auto tia

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then tell me the result

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ill wait for the good news of waiting ONLY for liter

solemn lotus
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for tia playing her on auto is better?

red stag
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wait for tech to say it ♪

safe canyon
red stag
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see

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manual anyone but tia and you got perfect burst rotation

worldly shadow
red stag
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manual tia and you screw up the 2nd burst cycle

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unles youre up for waiting

safe canyon
red stag
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yes, like i said

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anyone BUT tia

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wait

trim pawn
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level 7
13s each stack x 2 = -26
so 14 base
with cdr, it should go even lower

safe canyon
worldly shadow
red stag
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im hella confused why your tia got more CD than liter...

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math shoulnd lie; 40 - 26 = 14 so tia should ALWAYS have less waiting time than liter

worldly shadow
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also could try w/o maxwell and privaty instead

trim pawn
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2nd stack probably didn't kick in yet

minor hinge
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your tia s1.. prob only recover cover once

red stag
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the confusion is real

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i blame obama

trim pawn
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although I think you should be able to get 2 stacks straight away
1 from tia's burst + s2
1 from naga's s1

minor hinge
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yea thats the ideal scenario

trim pawn
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naga s1 needs 12 shots

worldly shadow
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yea looks like naga isn't proccing

safe canyon
minor hinge
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the buff ran out

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kek

trim pawn
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oh

worldly shadow
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yea

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it has 9s

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the uptime didn't refresh

red stag
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ok ok

safe canyon
trim pawn
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it shouldn't

red stag
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do this: fully auto everything, dont touch anything, just... auto... all...

trim pawn
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run out

worldly shadow
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it just looks like

trim pawn
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timer when he checked scoreboard was 2:46
timer when he got full burst bar was 2:39-38

worldly shadow
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the uptime doesn't get refrshed for some reason

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wait nvm

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it does refresh

glacial sluice
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this SR modernia laser pattern is really forgiving for some reason

red stag
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so like...

trim pawn
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what if it activates after 2nd burst rotation?

red stag
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fully auto = functional tia CD
manual = Tia: i dont wanna work anymore

worldly shadow
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what happens if you manual everythjing

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including burst

safe canyon
red stag
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JKs dont like manual labor

errant gorge
violet mason
glacial sluice
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modernia in a 2 b3 comp
yikes

minor hinge
violet mason
# red stag i blame obama

don't blame obama, just blame biden. oh wait i uncovered what the social media been doing on 1 side.

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nice find about tia bug Z_KyaruEat

minor hinge
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rather than tia's bug, it seems like liter s1 work on herself twice LiterWOT

violet mason
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iheard this is the leak

worldly shadow
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keep coping

vagrant shoal
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keep coping (2)

glacial sluice
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I don't even have pilgrim attacker parts for my underinvested sw

errant gorge
solemn lotus
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so is liter the mandatory B1 unit with tia/naga?

errant gorge
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no

red stag
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anynoe works fine

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as long as you let tia and naga do their job

  • you wait 2s on liter/volume on 2nd cycle, 4s for the rest
worldly shadow
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Liter + bunnies mod is a canon event

red stag
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then its chillwave time

worldly shadow
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Liter is probably the best but it’s hard to justify moving her from the bunny team

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So you use Dorothy or volume instead

red stag
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i tested with pepper and i just wait 4s for pepper, tia glaring at pepper for being slow

worldly shadow
red stag
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but you know...

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the waiting is only if you have fast burst gen

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scared to think that this slow burst gen team = perfect cycle cuz it takes more than 10s to full burst...

worldly shadow
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That’s pure copium

red stag
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im trying meme teams

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the more wack, the more fluid the cycles

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wtf shift up...

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Tia S2 needs change

sick coral
wary geode
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i will skip 2 or 3 banners for anniv

sick coral
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alice is more versatile than sw though, at least you don't have to dedicate the entire team to alice

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both need a full set of overloads

worldly shadow
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i would say alice and sw are both versatile

sick coral
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but sw can do those oneshot shenanigans

wary geode
# worldly shadow i would say alice and sw are both versatile

This, also:
_SW is better than Alice when the boss likes moving around, Alice would waste a lot of shots.
_Yes, being stunned is bad for Alice, but not much for SW.
_Alice has a higher chance to deal critical hits than SW, which gives a decent bonus dmg.
_SW normal atk is good to clear trash mobs, while Alice can enter burst faster.

worldly shadow
wary geode
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situational, one would perform better than other

worldly shadow
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depending on the team, like yulha, the boss moving at the wrong time

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might waste your buff

worldly shadow
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generally alice performs extremely high regardless of boss, but thats also a factor of unit composition

wary geode
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Yeah SW sync very well with Yulha, but like SW very picky on team comp to reach peak performance.

worldly shadow
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i say sw is versatile because you can put her on the better teams, liter bunnies, or even a doro tia team, or you can also run her solo with miranda

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she doesn't require the best units, to output a lot of damage

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which frees up the other dps units to take the better supports

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its also better for solo raid because it allows you to spread out your best units, especially now that the JKs are a thing

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i wouldn't say alice or sw are more flexible than the other

wary geode
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Reliable Pierce is another thing SW better than Alice, assuming your Alice is at 30% HP and enters full burst, she wouldn't pierce until her HP hits 80%, which also the boss could damage her and lower her HP as well.

worldly shadow
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i would say they're equally flexible

worldly shadow
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and even if you lose pierce, this is why people level up s2 to get it back

wary geode
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I mean most of shot would pierce though for Alice.

worldly shadow
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this might be a bigger issue in campaign, but also not as much cause of how fast alice clears camp[aign

wary geode
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Auto-aim is better than before, I still have PTSD from the old days, when Alice entered Full Burst and kept missing shots against a slow-flying rapture...

worldly shadow
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alice upside is one of the highest in the game

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and its not contingent on bosses

wary geode
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The current Auto-Aim make Alice shooting condition is more tight, like the aim must be very very close to the target, so she wouldn't waste the whole mag

worldly shadow
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a2 i think probalby has the highest upside, but its heaveily boss dependent

worldly shadow
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i can see it with bunnies

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but if you're running the dorothy privaty team thats really not a concern

wary geode
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anyway, this is a Tia thread, and i'm salty...

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well, looks like i don't need to upgrade Naga anytime soon

errant gorge
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alice mod best characters in game

violet mason
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having bunnies & jks mean you can finally see

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in your comps, the OG SSR. i was so happy when i got volume last year.

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that physics 😭

dawn saddle
errant gorge
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i dont think theres any scenario sw > alice

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cuz their advantages overlap

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pierceable parts, etc

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even with a 10% ele adv, sw doesnt win

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i think around 10% natural ele + 25% OL ele adv then they become evenish

dawn saddle
#

Yeah SW fell off deadge

dawn saddle
errant gorge
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if i recall correctly

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under ideal situations (assuming no ele adv)

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alice is like 34% ish more dmg than sw

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with gaming chair obviously

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alice is like 17% ish more than mod

dawn saddle
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Eh, there was also smthng gatrix made

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Where it showed that A2 is the goat in ideal situations

errant gorge
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oh yeah

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a2 obviously

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is better than alice

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as you increase parts

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lol

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if 100 parts exist

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its not even close

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unless red hood somehow gets these items like alice

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its doomed

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or they could make her like a2 and require full charge

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🤔

dawn saddle
errant gorge
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yea i am hoping that it wont be another macro needed character

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i will be happy if red hood is at least modernia dps

dawn saddle
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That's a high bar, I think modernia is the MC, more than red hood

Red hood is rapi technically but eh, modernia the goat man idk

errant gorge
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its frustrating because

dawn saddle
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A rapi alt should have better skills

errant gorge
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A2 kit is something i like - if only they didnt have the delay on pull back

dawn saddle
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Rather than red hood

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In my books

violet mason
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i hope red hood introduce some new element into the game making her a unique character to play instead of just lots dmg that can kind be easily replace by future nikke.

sick coral
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Fire element

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pierce

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maybe some dumb mechanic where she also gains a splash radius

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worst case scenario she'll be a fire element maxwell with bigger number

glacial sluice
#

Fire element
pierce

sick coral
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yes

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I expect many comparisons with alice

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then they say alice is better when their alice has 4OL and you don't have enough pilgrim attacker gear for red hood

main glade
#

tldr?

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verdict?

weary temple
#

With this team I was able to clear simulation room 5-C more easily but clearly Tia has to be controlled manually because of the taunt. The sustain of Naga (5/6/5) for A2 is limit each time

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I should maybe increase the skill 2 of Naga for more support of A2, I guess

dawn saddle
weary temple
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already 7

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6/6/7

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I am focusing on her burst for A2 to gain more survivability

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  • S2 of Naga
simple slate
# weary temple

Excited to see this comp performs in special interception, prolly roll it over BlancStare

lost aspen
#

which dps' are best with the combo?

vast hamlet
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Snow white, Maxwell?

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Alice, Maxwell?

sick coral
simple slate
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Lowkey a2-modernia

vast hamlet
#

Don't think Modernia gonna be a good choice if not in campaign since it's 2-1-2 she will be forced to burst and lose a lot of dmg. also Modernia burst is 15s so if she burst 3 times 15 sec is missing. An opportunity in which other unit can burst for one more time.

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Without burst
Best 80380
Liter's buff ran out 56919

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Bursting
best 23353
Liter's buff ran out 16537

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the dmg is missing by 70%

glacial sluice
#

Damn I just realized tia's 30%+ buff is actually permanent

paper compass
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should I try to get both Tia and Naga?

vast hamlet
#

up to your gems, both are good like the bunnies but the downside in getting them is that the anniversary is near so if you have enough gems and ticket (like 400 tickets at least), I would say go for it

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if you have gems/ticket and think that you'll just get them on ordinary banner. Pls don't.... it could take you fast or forever wahahaha

paper compass
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daaam yeah I tried a couple times already for Naga and no luck yet. if I only got one would Naga be better? or tia

vast hamlet
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not sure, gotta wait for someone else

dawn saddle
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Naga should be better I suppose

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But Tia has the constant buff

vast hamlet
#

Tia need Naga to be constant isn't it?

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or her S2 alone can activate her S1?

dawn saddle
#

Naga stabilises Tia cuz she provides insane levels of heals and cover heals to her

In return, Tia activated significant portions of naga

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That's how they work

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Naga allows Tia to "live" more if she isn't receiving too much damage in a short time

paper compass
#

Ahh ok so it's like Blanc and Noir. you can use Noir without Blanc but to use Blanc you need Noir?

dawn saddle
#

Yeah I guess but not really
Naga can be noir I suppose

And Tia can be blanc

weary temple
#

A2 is breaking the wings too fast but no issue in term of team damage at this level

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A2 (6/6/7), SAnnis (7/7/7)

simple slate
#

What happened after both wings broken?

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I mean wouldnt be problem in special interception cuz Modernia is there to shoot all the rockets down

weary temple
#

Modernia teleport and fires missiles

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Yes Modernia is doing the job with missiles

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SAnnis is doing more damage and she is buffing Naga

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But at my level I still didn't unlock OL gears just for info

oak silo
#

Tia taunt 💀

simple slate
worldly shadow
#

when i was running doro

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i didn't notice the manual bug

simple slate
#

I will fix it later

dawn saddle
simple slate
#

Spoiled by doro

worldly shadow
#

i can try on phone

dawn saddle
#

On phone it's harsher

vast hamlet
# simple slate What happened after both wings broken?

This Modernia in raid are unlike the one in SI, this one have 3 phase no matter how many times you destroyed her core and wings it will respawn. I think if you have enough dmg the most you can do is 3 times.

Then at around 50s++ she will turn into phase 2 which is backing off and start shooting the missiles then back to phase 1 with the red circle, until you reach 2:10 she turn to phase 3 which she will do the slash (stun if you don't have cover) for once then back to phase 1 with red circle til the end

simple slate
#

I realize i need to lv10 Liter S2 to help Tia more on survival

tough iris
#

me with 10/10/10 Liter since the beginning

smoky imp
simple slate
#

Not entirely*

gloomy plover
#

On the second burst, TIA CD is 1 sec later than liter , is that just hiw it is? 7/4/4

dawn saddle
#

Tower 175

Laser heavy stage, those fucking sprinkler proctile heavy stage

Tia Naga A2 Modernia liter
cleared it at 210k CP, Vs 315kcp, ~33.33% deficit

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Theyre pretty good, yeah

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Even in unfavorable scenarios

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Tia be dealing 1 damage when not in full burst

dawn saddle
valid cedar
#

you just need to game harder then

simple slate
#

They cant deal with farters (no one can)

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Their healing is very low

valid cedar
#

the one that spews out unblockable gas?

misty crest
misty crest
worldly shadow
misty crest
misty crest
valid cedar
#

I mean in my experience, just having a healer pretty much makes any dealing with those farters becomes much much easier

misty crest
worldly shadow
#

Gotta heal and burst them down

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Therefore Alice

simple slate
#

The rest need 20+ more sync (341+) deadge
This is single Fart+Flying Sniper elites into triple Fart Elites before boss btw Susge

worldly shadow
simple slate
#

That Tae’s alice OL lines are god tier too wdym not everyone can have that luxury

worldly shadow
#

Whale luxury

dawn saddle
#

Easily too

#

You literally cannot go against multiple farters without blanc noir

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And especially not with tia

#

Lemme try gamer alice

errant gorge
#

i hate whales

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being f2p myself

steel ocean
#

whats the current testing looking like?

simple slate