After anni
#[Naga] New Unit Megathread
maiden zinc
tender saddle
oh, they fold into the regular banner?
maiden zinc
oh, they fold into the regular banner?
Yes
maiden zinc
You wishlist them
warm valley
but if you dont have 5 mlb units
fair tusk
Wait for units to be added to standard and wishlist them.
icy whale
you can also just gamble a bit
cap yourself say 30 pulls
and try your luck if nothing then move on
if you get soemthing then get tia too
although
i've seen a few people talk about how tia/naga will likely be perfect for the anni character
tender saddle
the naga banner looks to be still there after tia drops
tender saddle
so I would say, wait for tia/naga to be tested together, then pull on banners
and hold gold tickets for anni
abstract oar
I would say trust the process and get one copy right now
tender saddle
did your testing show that naga is good enough, even without tia right now, to pull?
there's just no way she's bad right
warm valley
tcers are very good w/ damage buffers
icy whale
how often do we get a raid boss with no core
even alexander had a hidden core for alice to shoot at
soloraid
warm valley
harvester
fair tusk
so I would say, wait for tia/naga to be tested together, then pull on banners
That's what you should do for all newly released units tbh. Wait for other people to do testing before deciding to pull. Unless they're your waifu
tender saddle
I'll wait for tia to drop, and then pull
thanks
I was just upset that bunnies got "replaced" as a lot of people were saying
at least on YT
icy whale
there's no such thing as replacement
warm valley
people are going to overreact always in this game
people were saying to reset alice awhile ago after the "m" ban
icy whale
you need 5 teams of 5 nikke
bunnies isn't going to go out for a very long time
if anything then some mid tier shit like rupee goes out idk maybe guilty
not bunnies lol
warm valley
mid tier shit still important too
sicne most of the top tier units are low chance to get
icy whale
b2 mid tier i think is easily gone
tender saddle
ok thanks folks
I was so happy to get litter and bunnies and then this banner made me nervous
thanks tons
icy whale
from what i can tell
warm valley
dont worry, grandma very hard to replace
icy whale
most of the campaign bosses have no core
warm valley
when dorothy came out everyone was like "grandma replaced"
keen blade
Kinda excited for Naga + Tia comp. I hope it's good
Having her replace my Quency on Summer Anis comp with 4/4/4 skills on T9 somehow deals similar damage compared to her 
warm valley
only to come crawling back to trhe grandma
minor walrus
My naga is now the highest cp of b2 (more than c2 blanc), just cuz the skill investment
I think have both Tia Naga at highest skill investment and equal Gears with Bunnies will close the gap
Bunnies closed the gap with centi rapunzel pretty easy cuz my centi didnt have OL and proper skills (similar to rapun)
Tianaga prolly harder to close the gap with bunnies
Im estimating im losing about 3-5k co once i get Tia at mlb and OL
But their skills will close the gap completely
icy whale
My naga is now the highest cp of b2 (more than c2 blanc), just cuz the skill inv...
10/10/10 naga?
warm valley
jfc
icy whale
i just got around to 8/9/9 sanis still 4/4/4 sw/2b/a2 and now naga/tia are demanding my skills then anni nikke i'm sure wants them too
there's no catching up only falling further behind
warm valley
minor walrus
I have Diesel/Guilotine on the kill list to reset
warm valley
cause solo raid shes' still a top dps
oh you're one of those
units that require investment regarldess at some point I wouldn't kill unless i was just never using them again
minor walrus
warm valley
THeres always something for shiftup to fix
icy whale
yeah but skills though it's starting to look like we're fine the way we are
minor walrus
Ez Tia maxed skill if these get killed
warm valley
also they can just
give you skill resets for the heck of it
like i wouldn't be surprised if anni happens and they give us skill resets for the occasion
warm valley
Ez Tia maxed skill if these get killed
lol
icy whale
i will hold you to that
warm valley
why is your diesel ult l7
icy whale
gimme my resets
minor walrus
why is your diesel ult l7
I was pissed during the train SI or SR event
warm valley
warm valley
i just had mine at 555
so technically i could reset her but like its not even worth wasting the reset and she performs fine at 555
my guillotinme is like 474 though
so 494 i can see resetting
i just was never gonna take my guillotine to 494 cause elysion units
warm valley
ok thanos
magic cosmos
when dorothy came out everyone was like "grandma replaced"
I was saying even before Dorothy dropped that there's no way Liter would be replaced by her. Now Dorothy is just bootleg Liter/the other option when Liter's kit affects negatively (e.g. Summer Anis)
icy whale
no that's not true
i've seen campaign stages where the lowest cp clears are done by dorothy not liter
warm valley
I was saying even before Dorothy dropped that there's no way Liter would be repl...
I remember getting into an argument explaining why Dorothy wasn’t going to power creep liter and no one cared
warm valley
i've seen campaign stages where the lowest cp clears are done by dorothy not lit...
Lowest cp clears isn’t indicative of which unit can or cannot clear at the cp requirements
hallow scroll
Tbf, dorothy kit is so different from liter that anyone saying that she's gonna replace liter is just high on hopium
magic cosmos
I mean
warm valley
Tbf, dorothy kit is so different from liter that anyone saying that she's gonna ...
The logs are still there and the memes
There was a meme after Dorothy announced of the grim reaper walking liter to the after life
hallow scroll
A glance at her kit will tell you she's for bosses mostly
warm valley
Cause she was “retired”
magic cosmos
Liter and Dorothy work better in different teams and scenarios, I found myself having Dorothy being better on certain story stages too, however Liter is just the way to go in most situations
And people aren't going to invest in both of them at the same time since they require so much investment to work
(unless you're me playing since launch day and have both 10/10/10 full OL lvl5 because yes)
warm valley
Also Lowest cp doesn’t necessarily mean anything
Cause past a certain point the damage reductions from the fp break point will reach a point where regardless of cp, the damage you do vs the damage taken will be roughly the same
And liter is theoretically easier to get than Dorothy so you will probably have more liter copies than Dorothy for the average account
void oriole
Cause past a certain point the damage reductions from the fp break point will re...
wdym? 🤔
the CP history seems to be a good indicator. Minus cheaters in "all time". But the week/month seems to work well.
warm valley
When the cp gets to a certain threshold any cp increase decrease past like 25%, 50% doesn’t really matter
The difference between clearing a stage at a 50% cp deficit to a 51% deficit is negligible
void oriole
And yes, Doro is kinda the same as Liter in story. Better in part due to her AOE. Slightly worse in the rest. But either works with bunnies/scarlet really, so..
icy whale
Lowest cp clears isn’t indicative of which unit can or cannot clear at the cp re...
lowest cp clears let me know that you are wrong about dorothy
warm valley
How am I wrong? She’s not power creeping liter
icy whale
well not you
but
it shows me that the best min-max players make her work better than liter in some places
warm valley
They’re both really strong but the idea of Dorothy replacing liter was an incorrect statement propagated by a lot of people on Reddit and what not
icy whale
against this statement Now Dorothy is just bootleg Liter/the other option when Liter's kit affects negatively (e.g. Summer Anis)
warm valley
Ah ok
Also lowest cp clears are viable to change so that’s also a thing
Since a lot of that is timing and using system mechanics like dodging
icy whale
yeah it's not a thing for the average player
vivid sierra
lowest cp clears let me know that you are wrong about dorothy
what lowest cp clears
that menu is rarely right
cause personally all I see is Liter
void oriole
Since a lot of that is timing and using system mechanics like dodging
yeah, but there is a load of people bouncing constantly against the lower end. And some tunnels through the others do not. It's not like Doro users are more persistent so they win even when they are weaker 🙂 Liter users do just the same. So if Doro wins, it's a girl no matter how much all the boys "were strong" 🙂
icy whale
that menu is rarely right
why would that menu be wrong?
sort by all time low and there you go
yes it is mostly liter
but it is not strictly liter
vivid sierra
looks like they updated it recently
but when theres more clears than what the menu can show
and you sort by lowest first
warm valley
yeah, but there is a load of people bouncing constantly against the lower end. A...
eh problem with this is
it ignores the ocnditions that determine cp
vivid sierra
il’ll only show you the lowest of the few the menu was able to show
warm valley
liter is a standard banner unit you can wishlist, that also you can buy copies of in the shop
vivid sierra
so it used to make you miss out on tons of clears
warm valley
so when a dorothy team has lower cps, thats not telling you liter at the same cp can do it
its just saying someone was able to do it with dorothy
plucky raft
k I will roll for naga now and tia next when she comes out
warm valley
i know plenty of people who thave bought liter copies before they even got liter
and immediately mlbed her when they got her
icy whale
i'm not talking about liter mixed with doro
i'm saying there are stages where doro owners simply clear lower
because doro is better than liter
warm valley
while dorothy there is no easy way to get dorothy copies
icy whale
on those stages
warm valley
so 1, i would like to actually see the stages
and two the other issues are still not addressed
icy whale
i have both liter and doro same cp
use w/e the fuck is best
never been strictly liter
warm valley
i've cleared every stage in hard mode with liter
never really swsitched
so it also comes down to accounts as well
icy whale
yes but if your acc isn't good enough
it will not show up as lowest cp clear anyway
cuz your account wouldn't be able to do it
warm valley
your account could be cracked at a low cp clear though
you jsut dont have the time put in
icy whale
true or the skills
warm valley
yea
can also know a lot of the mechancis as well like dodging bomb raptures and what not
so theres a lot of variables that go into low cp clears
its not like anyone doing al ow cp clear is just running the game on full auto
vivid sierra
where I am rn the lowest cp clear of the past week is 220k
the closest doro clear is 238k
and it’s the same for the train boss right after
maybe Liter is more popular for early players 
idk
void oriole
more common and definitely more advertized 🙂
void oriole
it's not really about the one lowest. Just keep checking the 10 lowest to get an idea. If all 30 use modernia it shows pretty well how the level is designed 🙂
warm valley
i mean modernia is pretty much a universally strong unit
though you do reach an issue where sometiems she's not the unit for hte job
minor walrus
Lowest cp clear all alice with gaming chair, invalid ⚠️ 
void oriole
I have mine on auto and still was among the monthly tops 🙂 Alice can do the job as well.
oh, you tricked me, this is Naga thread 😛
silent stirrup
Grave Digger , Altesien , Land Eater are the only completely docile ones I can think of, but just taking Altesien as a example they can simply change a boss to make him aggressive, or the opposite so I wouldn't dwell on that too much
tender saddle
@abstract oar I heard you're advocating for everyone pull
for Naga
that good eh?
languid copper
tender saddle
well
previously I was gonna pull after tia is out
but if this is the verdict now, then I might as well pull now
lol
hidden prawn
im kidding ofc
ashen dagger
Not having Naga should be a crime
minor walrus
Nagaless is tiny wiener
tender saddle
so pull now or later? even without tia
wait for tia is what I was told as a newer player
minor walrus
wait for tia is what I was told as a newer player
There is nothing change the fact that they are going to be good especially for new player
Unless u are skipping them completely and cope for anniversary nikke
copper reef
There is nothing change the fact that they are going to be good especially for n...
imagine tia is bugged
ashen dagger
Naga and Tia compared to Blanc and Noir:
DMG support ^^^
Survivability ^^
Heals v
Tia and Naga providing 3/4 separate dmg buffs is insane, and from testing Naga alone already provides more dmg support than bunnies combined. With Tia its gonna be even more broken, Tia also is constantly taunting so she should take the majority of the dmg and her shields and self lifesteal also allow her survive more than the usual tank. Yes, the healing goes down but you realistically only need to heal Tia. She is able to keep A2 in Mode B with higher investment. And with Naga hitting standard next patch it means you can theoretically Core 7 her while your A2 is stuck at Limit Break 0-3
minor walrus
imagine tia is bugged
Shut your front door
ashen dagger
I think its an easy must have, anyone telling you theyre not is a fraud and trying to sabotage you
hidden prawn
so pull now or later? even without tia
it all depends on your need, 
& 
if youre a SR ranking tryhard, pull now
if you dont wanna wishlist, pull now
if youre fine on for her, tia and anniversary, pull now
if you got enough to get tia & anniversary, pull now
if none of these or youre patient, wait for standard
minor walrus
ashen dagger
welp, got her in my first 10
tender saddle
when tia comes out, I'm going to ask a shit ton of dumb ass questions as well to invoke your guys' luck
fleet charm
so what im seeing is Naga is good?
minor walrus
Lategame map pushing still questionable, need real testing. Bossing no question going to be stonk. But they will guarantee fast progression like bunnies
fleet charm
Naga and tia better them Blanc and noir?
minor walrus
-For bossing: they look to be on par for now, but need Tia and some real boss fights to give a good evaluation (but lots of theo-crafters estimate to powercreep bunnies). The teammates they run with are not directly taking units from one another so its better overall for team build.
(you cant run a modernia with Tianaga if you have bunnies, Snowwhite now looks to be stronger with Tianaga, but need some real numbers, Alice could go with either, Scarlet could go with either with high ammo, A2 personally look amazing with Tia protecting her, but doesnt seem to benefit from Naga core buff etc.....)
-Map pushing, we are not sure if Tia-Naga can hold their ground in late game maps, but Bunnies also have their own problem (mostly burst generation)
-Special interception for earl->mid game:
+Modernia : Tianaga is built to counter Modernia so better than bunnies here, but Bunnies have already cleaned her up (if you use right dps)
+Blacksmith: Tianaga has heal, shield, Rocket launcher, making blacksmith hit like a manchild i bet, but Bunnies have also already cleaned her up (just need minimum gears)
+Chatterbox: prolly same, really depend on the usage of dps here (vesti, laplace early on)
+Gravedigger: Bunnies > Tianaga due to Noir burst effect+ammo refill / Blanc shield/heal negate phase 7 drills ez.
+Train: Bunnies still look better here due to the refill ammo, enable a lot of low investment dps (scar/a2/mod) to hit that sweet spot dps, Tianaga strong, but not the niche i kinda see in train
edit: A2 with Tia is for map pushing Bunnies cant really protect A2, thats it
warm valley
-For bossing: they look to be on par for now, but need Tia and some real boss fi...
My only disagreement is with the team building. like @copper reef mentioned before, while tia naga sw is probably teh best team for sw, it would require sacrificing guillotine in solo raid so you end up with having to change your dorothy alice team to make up for the fact taht team 5 has to run guillotine
minor walrus
oh dont worry Guilotine about to be gutted (by me) bro 
coping for that anniversary dps to just bench her
warm field
inb4 she's a b1
nah it will be a b1 that resets b1 and will have ways to get the cd down for a triple b1 comp
fleet charm
so if you had to make a team with Naga and tia who would be the other 3?
warm valley
a b1 that can synergize with Tianaga potentially? sign me in
for that sw you massacred
warm valley
so if you had to make a team with Naga and tia who would be the other 3?
for what content?
copper reef
warm valley
for ur im probalby doing tia volume naga sw max/yulha
but for solo raid its probalby tia dorothy naga alice privaty
assuming you have every unit
minor walrus
so if you had to make a team with Naga and tia who would be the other 3?
b1 need to be a unit with cdr, b3 whatever u have available
minor walrus
for that sw you massacred
hellyah man i killed SW when i saw i can replace centi/rapun/privaty in campaign, shilled them right off the batch, got it working
fleet charm
sorry whos cbr?
minor walrus
volume, liter, and
warm valley
hellyah man i killed SW when i saw i can replace centi/rapun/privaty in campaign...
smdh
minor walrus
copper reef
for ur im probalby doing tia volume naga sw max/yulha
volume and naga have bad synergy
crit dmg and core hit dmg are on the same part of the dmg formula
warm valley
oof
i'll still probalby run it for ur since
dont need the most optimzed teams'
so like where do i move maxwell
if i run tia naga doro alice privaty
minor walrus
@copper reef can u explain the difference gap between partdamage/damage up vs Damage taken? how big of a difference here
warm valley
team 5
scarlet maxwell carry
is there a difference?
dont' they all apply multiplicatively after damage calculation?
copper reef
<@129107423238553600> can u explain the difference gap between partdamage/damage...
not much, damage up and part damage are on the same part of the formula, but compete with each other - i.e. if you have doro part dmg and tia damage up, they conflict with each other a bit
damage taken is strictly just the best since its by itself
minor walrus
not much, damage up and part damage are on the same part of the formula, but com...
No i mean i have Tia vs Blanc
copper reef
copper reef
we need a b1 cdr for anni to fully unlock tianaga
basically. liter is the best b1 cdr with tia naga rn, but creates issues when separated from noir
minor walrus
How much is damage taken % equivalent
warm valley
basically. liter is the best b1 cdr with tia naga rn, but creates issues when se...
hurts modernia and what not
copper reef
it depends if theres boss part dmg buff present on that team too
its just relative
in practice, it liekly doesnt matter as much
since we have 3 big boss part dmg buffers
doro, D, and a2
copper reef
the easiest way to see it is how crit dmg is diluted cuz core hit bonus, range bonus, and full burst bonus are basically there the entire fight
like if u increase ur crit dmg by 50%
that major modifier doesnt change as much relative to its last point
since core hit bonus, range bonus, full burst bonus are there online
minor walrus
tldr: pull now got it
copper reef
hurts modernia and what not
also if u try to run tia liter naga alice max, you have to force alice to reload b4 full burst or she will likely reload during liter's 5 sec buff
the issue gets diluted when both liter and noir are present
where noir s2 refills based on final max ammo
copper reef
forcing an alice reload also makes it unlikely you get 13 full bursts in a 3 min fight
warm valley
but you forget hoiw little ammo alice has w/o liter bunnies
copper reef
which is typical with alice privaty combos
so yea the doro priv combo with tia naga appears to me to be the path of least resistance
not 100% optimal, but good enough and doesnt fk other teams up
warm valley
inspite of doro tia kind of conflicitng
copper reef
yea but keep in mind its not a big conflict
warm valley
yea
copper reef
eh most stuff i typed can be deduced p quickly
if you stare at the top comps on sr boards
can reverse engineer reasonings based on the placement of the units too
hollow thorn
Me on Marciana: alright i'll get her. I need B2 healer
Naga early analysis: even alone she is good healer and still offer buff
Me : 
steady iris
Me on Marciana: alright i'll get her. I need B2 healer
Naga early analysis: eve...
Welp
I always said b2 heal and buff is meta. Marciana only offer heal
And overshield
short mason
not even the good kind of shield, it's just normal overheal from what I heard
that means you're still vulnerable to oneshots
steady iris
The "problem" with naga is that I don't think we have. Shielder spare that isn't tia
steady iris
who told yall to pull marciana when we know tianaga coming
Ppl who saw the teacher's ass and said ok
hollow thorn
in my defense, yes Marciana is hot
And i think naga is like blanc that her kit is gimped without the pair. Turns out Naga works well even solo, she is more like Noir ig
depending on Tia effect on Naga combo, I might need to use my last golden ticket....
and potentially skipping anniv unit
hollow thorn
the taunt eh
steady iris
Yes the taunt
Cover heal is cool, but doesn't help when you are shooting. And you only get shield every. Burst
minor walrus
when u pushing the limit
everything can 1-2 taps u
so its just better to kill them fast, those elites
and tianaga plotting to do that
hollow thorn
triple fart stage when u use naga tia alice then the fart align together: 
steady iris
Either way, I don't have the resources to go after jk
I pushed for mlb 2b. And I don't regret it😆
Got mileage for anniversary and that's it
green mist
While Tia does feel she may be problematic, also have to keep in mind she's also going to provide a damage buff too.
hollow thorn
i wonder if the CDR B1 for nagatia will be doro to bank on the buff, liter for even more beffier buff or volume just to spread the two meta unit on other teams
(for union/solo raid)
minor walrus
triple fart stage when u use naga tia alice then the fart align together: <:UMP9...
i got 2 stages like that waiting tia to test them out
short mason
Yes the taunt
she has a ton of leech and naga is there to heal too. That solves the problem somewhat.
steady iris
Jk with liter might be overkill on that cover heal
hollow thorn
she has a ton of leech and naga is there to heal too. That solves the problem so...
the cover though, if cover is broken I think some of their kit wont work?
hollow thorn
cocoa meta lets gooo
short mason
no cdr
LMAO
steady iris
she has a ton of leech and naga is there to heal too. That solves the problem so...
Leech? That's the teacher
short mason
Tia has self-leech iirc, read her kit
hollow thorn
i got 2 stages like that waiting tia to test them out
i will laugh if alice double tap them lol
plush horizon
fuck lol
steady iris
Ah, leech on burst
minor walrus
i will laugh if alice double tap them lol
trying not to use alice here 
plush horizon
so we need a b1 or b3 who has cover rebuild and cdr....
steady iris
Tia has self-leech iirc, read her kit
Ok, ya her s2. Doesn't change my mind tho. Isn't she RL? I don't think she will get alot of heal from that.
hollow thorn
so we need a b1 or b3 who has cover rebuild and cdr....
copium anniv unit is b3 cdr lol
hollow thorn
Ok, ya her s2. Doesn't change my mind tho. Isn't she RL? I don't think she will ...
and she is a tank wasnt she? low atk stat = low heal
unless its mobs stages, I think she will struggle to heal from the leech
abstract oar
Naga and Tia compared to Blanc and Noir:
DMG support ^^^
Survivability ^^
Heals...
Naga alone provides more direct dmg buffs than noir blanc?
Naga is currently ~40% core damage and 16% atk
hallow scroll
caster attack too
abstract oar
Which is definitely worse than:
40% damage taken debuff on enemies and 14% atk
So that's wrong
abstract oar
<@390152688605593603> I heard you're advocating for everyone pull
Hmm lemme just tally what Naga Tia should provide together
tender saddle
I did pull though
I read your study and just said fuck it
pulled on banner and got her
vital rune
I don't use my brain that much but I guess it's easy to say that Naga would appreciate max ammo OL right?
minor walrus
yeye im using his words to shill tianaga so if they flop just report him
brave holly
LMAO
hallow scroll
Which is definitely worse than:
40% damage taken debuff on enemies and 14% atk
btw blanc gives 14% attack at lvl 10
minor walrus
I don't use my brain that much but I guess it's easy to say that Naga would appr...
a mix of benefitial effects should be good, i got 1 line of ammo and feel plenty with bastion on her, she reload hella fast
hallow scroll
woops noir
abstract oar
btw blanc gives 14% attack at lvl 10
My bad
warped valve
blanc?
vital rune
a mix of benefitial effects should be good, i got 1 line of ammo and feel plenty...
Oh she reloads fast? That's good to hear, just need on line of ammo to get her ammo to atleast 10 and slap Bastion to reach 13
swift geyser
Naga's attack buff is also based off of her final attack
hallow scroll
tia naga does give better damage overall tho, that is true
minor walrus
Oh she reloads fast? That's good to hear, just need on line of ammo to get her a...
i have a lv11 line of 68% and she has 15 ammo sth i believe
swift geyser
whereas Noir's is calculated from base attack iirc
So Liter, Maxwell etc. make Naga's attack buff even stronger
hallow scroll
Naga's attack buff is also based off of her final attack
where on earth did you read this from?
swift geyser
but don't quote me on that one
hallow scroll
but don't quote me on that one
too late, you shall be quoted and judged
brave holly
uhh no buffs are based on final attack btw
swift geyser
Nvm
abstract oar
Tia+Naga together:
Core damage buff 120.24%
Attack damage buff 32.11%
ATK buff 47.20%
The rest basically entails to how much self sustaining Tia can be due to her possible constant taunt:
- Cover Max HP buff every 5 shots, need to make sure to wait 5 seconds before you make 5 shots for perfect use with Tia.
- Cover heals at burst, recovers even more cover HP for damage dealt.
- Shield to prevent cover from taking damage at burst.
- Cover heals every 10.1 seconds.
- HP heals every 4.3 seconds.
brave holly
at least to date we don't have one atm
swift geyser
I must have been thinking of some old datamine info
abstract oar
Tia+Naga together:
Core damage buff 120.24%
Attack damage buff 32.11%
ATK buff 4...
Blanc noir will be heck of a lot easier to use
swift geyser
(or just confusing it with something else, forget what I said)
abstract oar
Tia+Naga together:
Core damage buff 120.24%
Attack damage buff 32.11%
ATK buff 4...
Hmm yeah sure, it gives more support overall I guess than blanc noir
swift geyser
But you might have to micromanage Tia against some bosses I think
abstract oar
Definitely more annoying to manage Tia
swift geyser
Yep
abstract oar
But you might have to micromanage Tia against some bosses I think
Yep
swift geyser
Her S2 doesn't require a full charge though
abstract oar
I am very much in favour of
Naga SAnis Tia Doro Privaty
Idk
A lot of other teams may be just, harder to manage
hallow scroll
we wont be able to take advantage of the core hit though
though it wont matter on coreless bosses
abstract oar
we wont be able to take advantage of the core hit though
Oh true
hallow scroll
plus, where will alice and guillotine go?
minor walrus
abstract oar
plus, where will alice and guillotine go?
Hmm yeah
I guess guillo is a better choice
So swap out Doro and priv for Volume and guillo
But then
hallow scroll
honestly the best comp im thinking is mixing tia naga with volume and sw
abstract oar
Guillo is nerfed as hell
swift geyser
I'll probs try to run Liter/Miranda-Tia-Naga-SW-Maxwell
abstract oar
With Tia naga
swift geyser
Doro-Tia-Naga-Core Hitter-Privaty probably the other altrnative
abstract oar
The best pair for guillo remains to be Noise
hallow scroll
austin says naga + volume is bad since crit damage and core hit is in the same damage factor (they are additive)
but I see no other better choice for now
abstract oar
austin says naga + volume is bad since crit damage and core hit is in the same d...
Yep, they are
But so is Doro's part damage and Tia's Attack damage
abstract oar
then volume can stay with mast and noise
Yeah, that feels like the ideal choice
hallow scroll
other option is using liter, but this will result in twin bunnies + volume
abstract oar
other option is using liter, but this will result in twin bunnies + volume
Even more cover heals for tia
swift geyser
I like to try and pair Dorothy with bunnies too if possible
abstract oar
I like to try and pair Dorothy with bunnies too if possible
Burst choke
swift geyser
Noir's S1 actually buffs Doro's burst
hallow scroll
hmm twin bunnies + alice, privaty, doro?
swift geyser
Well I always toss in Privaty too
Yep
Basically either Scarlet or Alice as main dps
hallow scroll
How will this look like I wonder
swift geyser
She goes in the bin where she belongs
abstract oar
Sure
hollow thorn
Where tf will mod go
mod is one of my best damage dealer but she just very hard to put since she want a 3x B3 team where she herself dont want burst
swift geyser
Yep
hallow scroll
mod goes some other comp as the 3rd b3, but she wont benefit from noir ammo reload
swift geyser
She's strong but I fucking her her burst
abstract oar
As long as we just aim for top 50% in raids, should be fine
tender saddle
Tia+Naga together:
Core damage buff 120.24%
Attack damage buff 32.11%
ATK buff 4...
what tier 0 would go with tia/naga
burst 0
hollow thorn
mod goes some other comp as the 3rd b3, but she wont benefit from noir ammo relo...
wasnt less reload means good for modernia? the 5 extra ammo is a joke for MG but wasnt the reload is good
abstract oar
Liter bunny mod is the ideal situation due to liter noir ammo sync, mod being ideal for 1-1-3 comps
hallow scroll
wasnt less reload means good for modernia? the 5 extra ammo is a joke for MG but...
yes, your point?
hollow thorn
thinking to put Miranda with mod to and play crit lol
hollow thorn
yes, your point?
oh you say she wont benefit from ammo reload, i think she benefit from it
hallow scroll
nah saying if modernia is paired with a non-twin bunnies comp, she wont benefit
abstract oar
Mod is literally top 3 damage dealer against any boss ever, she isn't moving from her spot, she's a must use nikke
hollow thorn
nah saying if modernia is paired with a non-twin bunnies comp, she wont benefit
ah my bad T_T
swift geyser
Tfw I hardly ever use her
hollow thorn
Mod is literally top 3 damage dealer against any boss ever, she isn't moving fro...
her team is the problem
I once just say fck it and go with volume, guilty, helm, modernia and 2b for solo raid
atk be damned atleast it has crit synergy lol
abstract oar
You also cannot run Alice with Tia if you have to micromanage tia
swift geyser
Scarlet + Doro Comp
Alice+Bunnies
Maxwell+SW
and in SR mod gets to play on 4th team(unless it's fire weak boss then she gets promoted to Alice team)
abstract oar
Well, I can't believe what I'm reading here, let's just leave it at that
hallow scroll
her team is the problem <:ShiftyDed:1043372330753200218>
I once just say fck i...
thats why you shall remain in the bottom tier with that comp
hollow thorn
You also cannot run Alice with Tia if you have to micromanage tia
me who use auto alice (yes i am lazy):
swift geyser
Mod is too much of a pain
swift geyser
Rework her burst please
tender saddle
liter also repairs cover right
minor walrus
The other 2 guys waiting 3 minutes for the next match
swift geyser
hollow thorn
thats why you shall remain in the bottom tier with that comp
i run out of team for mod
1st team was liter ,bunnies, alice, maxwell
2nd team was doro, priv, ass, marciana and guillo
so the 3rd team is that lol
icy whale
first team already looks kinda iffy
brave holly
mod means more DPS for that bunnies team anyways
icy whale
Max don't really benefit from ammo increase that much, and Mod does
and Noir's ammo increase is huge, it's no joke
hollow thorn
just 2x charge speed alice
I might reroll my alice helm since it has the weakest OL lines but I need to lock the 2nd line first
or maybe I just drop maxwell anyway since I play with auto alice?
swift geyser
If you're serious about running Modernia you want to pair her with bunnies
brave holly
yeah reroll for that 2nd charge speed
is worth
mod is too strong on liter + noir team comp
that ammo refresh is no joke
hollow thorn
If you're serious about running Modernia you want to pair her with bunnies
so the one is bursting is noir, and other b3?
i was under assumption that noir burst is "weak" like privaty where the usage is pretty niche so I tried avoiding noir burst
swift geyser
If you have few ammo rolls + bastion she has near infinite ammo with bunnies
brave holly
so the one is bursting is noir, and other b3?
i was under assumption that noir ...
yeah noir is bursting with alice
it's still straight up better than mod bursting
ever
swift geyser
so the one is bursting is noir, and other b3?
i was under assumption that noir ...
Yes, you never want to burst with Modernia
Excluding some very specific scenarios
icy whale
with enough ammo i think you can finish 3 min with 1-2 reload
hollow thorn
thanks for the tips guys. I know this is Naga thread but i got valuable team building info 
warm valley
Yep, they are
But so is Doro's part damage and Tia's Attack damage
Only thing is less sources of part damage compared to dilution for crit damages
warm valley
Scarlet + Doro Comp
Alice+Bunnies
Maxwell+SW
and in SR mod gets to play on 4th t...
how do you even fit sw and max together?
abstract oar
how do you even fit sw and max together?
Tia volume Naga SW MW
ashen dagger
Naga alone provides more direct dmg buffs than noir blanc?
you can use her with that SR character
warm valley
Tia volume Naga SW MW
thats probably worse than tia naga doro alice privaty
abstract oar
Ether? Nah you cant really, there's a flaw that I described in my pin
That S1 will only activate every 40 seconds
warm valley
cause a2 probably goes to bunny team for solo raid
abstract oar
thats probably worse than tia naga doro alice privaty
SW doesn't need spam like Alicu-chan
abstract oar
cause a2 probably goes to bunny team for solo raid
@minor walrus said A2 can breathe with Naga tia
minor walrus
<@858180581387927574> said A2 can breathe with Naga tia
im a story andy
i dont do that kinky shiet sr/ur
minor walrus
hallow scroll
tuant failed
warm valley
is a2 tia naga even wroth it
swift geyser
how do you even fit sw and max together?
I mean there's plenty of wiggle room, just depends on how serious you are. If you're going for the top 0.1% SR then yeah it might be different.
warm valley
since she doesn't benefit from core damage
warm valley
I mean there's plenty of wiggle room, just depends on how serious you are. If yo...
i mean if you assume something like liter bunnies a2, and then like doro jk alice privaty
swift geyser
Also depends on the content you're doing, I mostly play for "fun" while still get results I find acceptable.
warm valley
i dont see how maxwell and sw fitr toegehre
swift geyser
Err, gimme a sec I'll try to think of something
warm valley
cause my thought process is im thinkikng of just doing standard miranda sw stuff in that case
and maxwell + scarlet are team 5
swift geyser
Ah, if it's for SR then it's quite different I suppose
warm valley
ur you can make anythign work cause only 3 teams right
but solo raid its gonna be weirder
moving volume to JKs kills guillotine
minor walrus
is a2 tia naga even wroth it
just nice thing to play aound with, cuz lots of people joined for Nier, prolly has a2, looking for some thing to hold them on this game while looking at A2 bleeding 🩸 every now and then is depressing, but Tia Naga come and save the day
swift geyser
Because it depends heavily on the boss, especially if it has a healer check. That alone messes up most of your standard teams.
Havent thought of SR team with Tia and Naga in mind yet
warm valley
Because it depends heavily on the boss, especially if it has a healer check. Tha...
most of the standard teams
have healers
except the alice team and team 5 probably
and for alice, alice is techniucally the healer
swift geyser
Team 5 is more like "if it survives past 1minute I'm happy"
warm valley
eh most team 5s
should be able to survive the entire fight
in the case of top 100
to 100-200
swift geyser
For sure, I generally just dont care about that
If it offered special rewards I would
dont feel like spamming resets for extra 300-600 gems
minor walrus
who is fresh 160 residents just enter Special Interception here and about to have both Tia and Naga, we gotta do some lab test
warm valley
dont feel like spamming resets for extra 300-600 gems
yea thats fair
abstract oar
Doro novel Alice Maxwell priv
Swap priv out for healer if you're not strong enough to keep alicu Alive I guess.
Liter blanc scar noir modernia
Tia volume SW/2B/guillo Yulha/A2/SAnis Naga
Pairs:
SW yulha for iron weak.
2B A2 for fire weak.
Guillo SAnis for elec weak.
2B+SW/SAnis or SW+Yulha are probably the best choices for general setup.
The remaining 2 are dolla/Shelm/Sakura teams
On boss part heavy teams, you may choose to promote A2 to Noir blanc and move scarlet down to a general team or electric counter team with Tia Naga.
Or push her down to dolla/Shelm/Sakura teams
abstract oar
This is my take
ashen dagger
Ether? Nah you cant really, there's a flaw that I described in my pin
That S1 wi...
not the entire team
literally just 3 characters
abstract oar
literally just 3 characters
Also the 3 characters it chooses might not be naga
HP based activation
warped valve
WHERE'S MY NAGA PVP COOKS?
KERIPO HELLO?
imagine centi works with naga on pvp because shift up
abstract oar
Naga is bad in pvp
This is not a tldr
This is a straight up fact
brave holly
inb4 nikkes somehow have core damage
warm valley
naga in pvp: dont
brave holly
probably depends on your situation and what you're willing to sacriface honestly
like if you have 400 or more gold mileage sure
if you're only at 200 and no gem resources to roll well you gotta make a choice
do you sacriface the anniversary nikke or tia
surreal umbra
copper reef
anni unit will be red hood with sniper rifle shooting 60 bullets per second 300 base ammo all pierce all life steal and her burst increases her rate of fire to 300 bullets per second and 100% reload speed
save for red hood
minor walrus
just plan to limit break to the average limit break of all pilgrim
in case of 6000 spare body pilgrim
short mason
shitty team, but unsurprisingly naga does good damage on gravedigger. note the CP difference
swift geyser
Pierce is quite strong
plush horizon
summer anis
minor walrus
shitty team, but unsurprisingly naga does good damage on gravedigger. note the C...
How is yours sanis and Naga skill levels?
copper reef
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956169630400016384/1153507666732273736/1695074590470371.gif
silent stirrup
a b1 that can synergize with Tianaga potentially? sign me in
Bruh please give is B1 that buffs charge speed or something for SW
Everyone else is fine
Or B2 so we keep Miranda
silent stirrup
when will Shift Up give iron weak raid
Too late
Just give me charge speed man cause Pilgram OL doesn't exist
short mason
How is yours sanis and Naga skill levels?
full OL on ASS, 6/6/6. 3 OL on Naga, 4/4/4
keep in mind my usual team for gravedigger (bunnies/litter/drake/modernia) clears faster than this and this is only for testing
sharp horizon
Should I overload Naga? Since it increases her attack. What's the value of her overload rating from 1-5?👁️👄👁️
dry kayak
dayum so naga is good without tia ? hmmhmh
wondering if I should blow out the little gems I got after collab
I missed marciana a lot for sanis team kinda need a b2 healer
vivid sierra
quency better
than marciana*
dry kayak
hm have her but havent touched her
abstract oar
Should I overload Naga? Since it increases her attack. What's the value of her o...
Yeah
Anything that increases base ATK is good
plush horizon
isnt her healing fairly low for attackers
biscuit is a supporter
I suggested her because she can benefit from sanis electric element buff
dry kayak
healing *
plush horizon
oh yeah it is
swift geyser
I watched Skyjlv's video on Naga and according to his tests it seemed attack overload % doesn't work with Naga's burst. That has to be a bug, becaus it does work with Dorothy(and Noir S1 as well?).
somber crest
I watched Skyjlv's video on Naga and according to his tests it seemed attack ove...
No, the keyword is Final
Final = worked with buffs
faint quarry
Doesn't mean that ATK buffs aren't good on her though since her personal damage is actually impressive
Similar to above poster, I did a Gravedigger run and she beat out my Noir who has very high investment. 👀
Naga 0/3 all T9Ms +0/+3/+2/+2 skills 4/4/4 vs Noir 2/3 3 OL +5/+4/+4 one T9M +0 skills 10/9/5
warped valve
naga gets buffed by ass while also having faster reload speed than ass also
faint quarry
No shotgun beats Noir's fast hands at reloading tho 
warm valley
And pierce
faint quarry
Yeah, that pierce is nice
I liked Neve for it, too, but unfortunate SR status is unfortunate
hallow scroll
Well dont think you're gonna use that comp in SR, sanis too important for guillo team and privaty could be used for alice maxwell team
short mason
actually you can use tianaga with guillotine provided that you keep naga's S2 at level 1 LMAO
hallow scroll
yea 2 late for that buddy lol
sharp horizon
can the pin answer your question?
eternal pawn
nah, I was told to ask specifically by Quastard :3
gotta follow the maids after all
abstract anvil
<@249430679379509248> told me to come here
wow, you're really dragging my name out here when i specifically told you not to do that
eternal pawn
wow, you're really dragging my name out here when i specifically told you not to...
i will drag you with me anywhere friend. Especially for new great units like Naga
atomic jay
Naga is useless
minor walrus
Never listen to guy with white name 
warped valve
hmm
atomic jay
maiden zinc
minor walrus
185f missi, didnt pass this before naga came home, but her core buff seem to be handy toward fart rapture cores
Imagine with Tia, unlock 80% more core buff
abstract oar
185f missi, didnt pass this before naga came home, but her core buff seem to be ...
ohh true
we didnt have a b2 damage buffer before naga
for missilis
or
wait
maybe quency
minor walrus
She heals too
abstract oar
She heals too
so does quency chan
warm valley
tia naga gonna save my missilis tower grind
minor walrus
Burst gen during Full Burst
What does it do?
swift geyser
Nothing
That's the joke
brave holly
What does it do?
it || pierces deez nuts ||
minor walrus
it || pierces deez nuts ||
U piece of shiet u better watch where you go im on to you cuz
brave holly
LMAO
abstract oar
U piece of shiet u better watch where you go im on to you cuz
do u remember that makima had pierce
it basically provides 0 actual contributions since naga isnt going to be the DPS
minor walrus
it basically provides 0 actual contributions since naga isnt going to be the DPS
Didnt austin say she can hit internal cores now? With core buff up thats huge?
abstract oar
Didnt austin say she can hit internal cores now? With core buff up thats huge?
naga isnt doing shit tho
she's fucking support SG
also like
only 1 rapture has internal core
3 if u wanna count shield type raptures
minor walrus
Playing some si to find a justified dps damage
Ok her dps is actually shiet
hallow scroll
dahell you expect lol
minor walrus
idk i see pierce im curious
hallow scroll
go shoot chatterbox then or some boss that you can do pierce damage to
abstract oar
go shoot chatterbox then or some boss that you can do pierce damage to
neve balling' 
brave holly
idk i see pierce im curious
maybe you should try core+7ing her 
abstract oar
surely 10s pierce > 2 shot pierce
minor walrus
maybe you should try core+7ing her <:pepehmmm:1008474271863025725>
imma +7 deezenut in your mouth
unkempt shard
surely 10s pierce > 2 shot pierce
False and untrue
foggy meteor
Do we need more time or have the researchers concluded a ruling on Naga?
Scrolling up it doesn't look very positive.
indigo mural
S Anis with Naga skews results, don’t trust it. S Anis buffs Naga - electric code unit…
warped valve
of course we need more time
Tia's not released yet
half of Naga's kit is practically missing atm
some people probably already tested her with Folkwang's passive shield but that shield has way too long of a cooldown
plush horizon
it doesn't even work, unless you gonna invest until naga's the most/2nd most powerful attacker on the team, in a team where you have 2 b3's
minor walrus
it doesn't even work, unless you gonna invest until naga's the most/2nd most pow...
u can try with
Crow
minor walrus
but honestly there is nothing to test at this point, she is just good
plush horizon
man I forgot
minor walrus
ye
plush horizon
wtf was crow's kit exactly?
hallow scroll
crow's kit is to tell everyone else that you're shit at teambuilding
minor walrus
just absolutely no unit that can enable Naga at this point beside Tia, nothing to test, they going to enable big dick dps, thats it
hallow scroll
we might see a slight/good uptick on damage buff compared to the twin bunnies comp
plush horizon
real question is if it'll overtake blanc's dmg taken debuff
minor walrus
Tia is the Blanc here, and once she can spam her shot, cant kill her unless its one shot mech
hallow scroll
based on the damage formula, blanc dmg taken debuff seems to work similar to attack damage buff (but the debuff is better since they have more numbers)
but depending on how easy it is to trigger tia's s1 (could be constant, could be random and unreliable), tia s1 might be better/worse than blanc's debuff burst
minor walrus
should be guarantee during burst
then naga can easily trigger it off at some point for 10s
and once the the burst gauge ready to be filled again, Tia will just fill it so fast into the next burst
should be constant
hallow scroll
would be much better if cover recovery hp still counts when cover is at max hp
that way, tia s1 would be at near constant
minor walrus
ye thats something we cant test yet right
but positive note, Tia will get hit all the time
hallow scroll
lol how can you test a unit thats not even out yet
hallow scroll
ask them then lol
hallow scroll
still Im a bit pessmistic it wont work like that seeing how nero works with her hp kit (she must take damage first)
minor walrus
thats for hp tho, and it says when i takes effect
here the cover words look simple
anyway
hallow scroll
the fear here is that hp and cover works the same
minor walrus
we will see next week
warped valve
abstract oar
shooting parts count as attacking a core right?
Core hits are the red circle thing only
somber crest
Red circle is interrupt part
short mason
at lvl 6 s2 she's decent enough to keep a2 topped off https://youtu.be/vswfXKyBnmU?t=481
warped valve
minor walrus
at lvl 6 s2 she's decent enough to keep a2 topped off https://youtu.be/vswfXKyBn...
nice
indigo mural
shooting parts count as attacking a core right?
Core = Weakspots in enemy. Most common visually discernible cores are red orbs, but not always. Modernia’s chest part counts as a core, but is also a part. Blacksmith’s guns have cores slotted into them, as well. However, most cores are not parts. Effects which boosts core damage apply.
Part = Destructible attachment on enemy. Can be portrayed as turrets, missile launchers, or other things. Effects which boosts part damage apply.
Red circle / Cancel ring / Interrupt ring / QTE = Interrupt points on enemy. Destroying them interrupts an incoming enemy action specifically tied to them.
I don’t know if core + part damage buffs stack when hitting something like Blacksmith’s guns’ cores.
atomic jay
iirc, core and part dmg are calculated separately.
the final dmg should be higher, despite the core dmg and part dmg are not stack
silent stirrup
Never listen to guy with white name <:cmonBruh:1037423438836539442>
Wait a second
brave holly
What you heard them never listen to a guy with a white name
hushed condor
Naga best in bed yall tripping
hallow scroll
I'll call the cops on you if naga exists irl and you wanna prove it lol
maiden zinc
I'll call the cops on you if naga exists irl and you wanna prove it lol
She is way beyond legal age
You just jealous
Plus she is a robot
hallow scroll
did they ever mention their actual age?
maiden zinc
did they ever mention their actual age?
Dont think so
But they all are old enough to join the army
hallow scroll
hmm looks at N102
not sure if being old enough to join the army is a good argument
hallow scroll
nah nikke stays that way forever lol
hallow scroll
dang we going into korean age of consent now? lol
hallow scroll
wow its surprisingly low
hallow scroll
I know SEA is super low, didnt expect uk to be that low though
maiden zinc
Alcohol is still 18 tho
Also people will already married at the age of 15 in the past.
So i dont know if we actually evolved or devolved
hallow scroll
stagnant
indigo mural
If you really want to get technical about archaic ages of marriage, it basically was as soon as the female menstruated for the first time. Modern sensibilities focus on both the mental age of girls and the physical development of their bodies.
abstract oar
Dorothy S2 benefits from Naga's Core buff right?
minor walrus
Dorothy S2 benefits from Naga's Core buff right?
No
minor walrus
But i thought doro's s2 was core hit
Im not sure but before i said no i did run some test to see the numbers
It stays constant
With naga 78k, without naga 78k
It seems to crit too but need to see more (not sure about this)
abstract oar
yeah it crits
hallow scroll
First time I've heard doro s2 involves core hit damage
abstract oar
First time I've heard doro s2 involves core hit damage
pretty sure someone sent a photo or smthng saying doro's s2 core hits
see here @hallow scroll
why is it core hitting wtf 
it isnt for me
let me copy comp
hallow scroll
Huh, bugged text perhaps? Otherwise naga would boost her damage
minor walrus
interesting let us know
abstract oar
i think
uhh
lemme test
ok no
i thought maybe if dorothy's last hit was core hit, S2 is core hit
thats wrong
wtf, it core hit once
didnt record
fuck
idk if im sure now cuz it may be crit or core hit, but looked redder
brave holly
over here her s2 is not core hitting
Her S2 core hitting was due to some bug with MGs or some shit
abstract oar
Her S2 core hitting was due to some bug with MGs or some shit
YES
brave holly
if you look at the one person that sent the guillotine and dorothy DPS test
you can see dorothy S2 core hitting
brave holly
honestly it might make guillotine prime tia naga comp material with dorothy
abstract oar
honestly it might make guillotine prime tia naga comp material with dorothy <:ke...
buffs the shit out of dorothy
abstract oar
honestly it might make guillotine prime tia naga comp material with dorothy <:ke...
its not just with MGs
if i constantly core hit with any nikke im manualling
she core hits
brave holly
ah
good to know
I honestly never pay attention to dorothy's numbers because the fucking screen is usually flashing a billion colours 
abstract oar
good to know
yeah but good luck core hitting constantly with dorothy
yo so
this should also happen if im using alice right?
lemme check
brave holly
probably should
brave holly
I wonder then does all S2 procs afterwards core hit if you "stop" piloting
or does it count for each individual proc seperately
brave holly
hallow scroll
er that core hit value looks lower when you're on guillotine compared to the regular hit when you are on dorothy
abstract oar
er that core hit value looks lower when you're on guillotine compared to the reg...
ill check
hallow scroll
see
hallow scroll
maybe some weird display logic showing the incorrect value when you are on someone other than doro
normally you dont see your ally damage value anyway
abstract oar
after 1 s2 proc, no core hit
abstract oar
maybe some weird display logic showing the incorrect value when you are on someo...
ok its just bugged display
nothing else
youre right
hallow scroll
alright then, tia naga doro comp in shambles now
maiden zinc
If you really want to get technical about archaic ages of marriage, it basically...
But nikke cant give birth so 🤷
Naga dps
abstract oar
no
naga mid
dead nikke
i seriously wonder if tia even works man
constant taunts are hell
abstract oar
So naga mid now?
we'll find out when tia comes
maiden zinc
abstract oar
and see how viable sustainability is for tia
shes getting healed a shitton, just that she works very weirdly
hallow scroll
So naga mid now?
obviously naga is mid as hell, cant even unlock half her kit now
/s
minor walrus
So naga mid now?
u mid
abstract oar
obviously naga is mid as hell, cant even unlock half her kit now
/s
just use ether guys 
and have naga at low HP 
hallow scroll
ether meta when?
abstract oar
ether meta when?
right now
hallow scroll
gib team comp
abstract oar
gib team comp
ether B1cdr Naga B3 B3
hallow scroll
ether B1cdr Naga B3 B3 <:heh:1008474357519097946>
dang look at that, the best comp indeed
brave holly
no increase
visual bug moment
abstract oar
dang look at that, the best comp indeed
wicked delta
Naga still must pull? Or less so now?
hallow scroll
we have no idea since tia hasnt come out yet lol
wicked delta
then why pin say must have 😠
hallow scroll
thats theoretical must have, you said "still must pull?"
answer hasnt changed since we cant test them yet
wicked delta
my eyes just rolled so far into my head the neighbors called the cops
hallow scroll
go to hospital
warped valve
it’s a must have simply because, waiting for wishlist means you only have 0.233% chance to pull her instead of 2%
and that 0.233% have shafted some people for a long time when it comes to bunnies
so they are like “never again”
I know 4-5 guys who are still lacking the complete bunny duo
swift geyser
Yeah, betting on wishlist can be a massive trap. Take my Miranda for example. When I got her about a week ago I was at 3.5k pulls.
If we remove friendship pulls from that amount it's roughly at ~2700. (I started a month late and ignored friend system for a while) Now let's be a bit generous and say I didn't have Miranda wishlisted for another 1000 pulls, putting me at 1700 pulls on normal and special banner.
So that's 1700 pulls, which in reality is much higher, spread between normal and special banners to pull a Miranda. That's not even counting all the molds as there's no way to track them.
So far everything points towards Tia/Naga being extremely strong. On damage front things are quite solid, we know it's gonna be good. Just wait for people to test Tia before committing, since there's some slight concerns about her survivability due to constant taunts.
But all in all everything points towards "must have" when it comes Tia and Naga. If it werent for the upcoming anniversary and with it a Pilgrim banner I'd probably even suggest ticketing one of them.
warm valley
My friend has been playing since December and he has yet to get liter
So I’d you got the guts you can bet on wishlist but I wouldn’t
warped valve
gotta ask for your friend’s total pulls in regular banner
to justify/measure how shafted he is
I have around 1700 regular pulls before maxwell came home
fleet harbor
took me 3k pulls for volume, having one team in solo raid with no CDR unit sucked
abstract oar
I'm still not at 3k pulls
atomic jay
I know 4-5 guys who are still lacking the complete bunny duo
you can says they have no gems noir luck to complete the bunny duo, blancly they should whales more.
huehuehuehue
hallow scroll
you can says they have no gems *noir* luck to complete the bunny duo, blancly th...
Booooo
abstract oar
warped valve
abstract oar
Tldr: mid
hallow scroll
lmao this fast without fully testing her with tia?
abstract oar
Trust the process
Naga and Tia are not strictly bound to each other after all, Naga does a lot even as a solo B2, she's healing decently and providing buffs, better than Marciana in every books
The heals are substantial as well. Uptime of dmg buffs is very decent, just needs Tia to add to it and make it an insane amount.
I assumed that Tia works with cover similar to how Noise works with HP, hence the current rating
abstract oar
jeez, that's an extremely long review for someone who's half out
He's out fr
unkempt shard
minor walrus
https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/naga-guide
so naga loose to Noir in story late
will see in couple weeks
abstract oar
so naga loose to Noir in story late
will see in couple weeks
For now, Tia doesn't exist
unkempt shard
i can see them working better than noir and blanc
abstract oar
Also a constant taunt? In my campaign?
unkempt shard
abstract oar
Im only worried about the constant taunt
minor walrus
just
abstract oar
I understand how insane the buffs are
with tia
abstract oar
so much ptsd with the taunt here
Used rapi and Noise till ch15
First actual DPS was modernia
Got Alice and scarlet after clearing ch19 
Taunts are harsh
minor walrus
with bunnies u still going to die in 1-2 hits anyway, im seeing these students pack the punch right off the batch and destroy some raptures here
abstract oar
Blanc and noir can allow damage to spread out, Tia is all alone 