🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[velvet lava]

I'm in the US

[tulip dust]

@royal wagoni also noticed it's not full lined

[forest girder]

Glistco ships from Canada right

[velvet lava]

Yeah

[royal wagon]

the changes implemented in last fridays patch altered something about the attachment points on the hand and/or guns, and while they didnt totally undo those changes they compensated the offset to be a lot closer to the old settings, you might need to give it a small nudge

[forest girder]

Must’ve been a small fee for you

[velvet lava]

I'm in Virginia and it took me around me 5 days

I used the free shipping

[royal wagon]

vertical alignement also seems to have been affected, though its a bit more nuanced and more dependent on what kind of changes you can make to your stock

[forest girder]

Not that bad for me, $15

[velvet lava]

Nice

[formal kayak]

There is a uk based Etsy store that ships to eu in days.

[mortal parcel]

is this a quick fix and they will get to it later?

[forest girder]

Free shipping?? What a dream

[tulip dust]

@royal wagon (left/right angle changing when rotating backward the controller feel bad^^)

[forest girder]

Is it the real thing though

[formal kayak]

Yeh...it is.

And the guy who runs it is sound as fek.

[mortal parcel]

is this new offeset a quick fix and well get our original grip placements back?

[forest girder]

What is “sound”

[velvet lava]

They fixed it

[formal kayak]

Ummm reliable, honest etc.

[mortal parcel]

100% i dont think so?

[formal kayak]

MINT 3D

[velvet lava]

I don't really know I haven't played today yet

[royal wagon]

its not original, but its close enough you shouldnt have issues

[mortal parcel]

i think you have to hold the gunstock at a little bit of an anlge still

[forest girder]

Weirdly enough it’s cheaper from Glistco

[velvet lava]

I'm just basing it off other people

[formal kayak]

The guy who runs it is called Colin.

[mortal parcel]

will they ever go back to the original?

[royal wagon]

i suspect not

[formal kayak]

Yeh it may be, but one takes weeks and one takes days ...so it's give/take I guess.

[royal wagon]

probably part of required changes

[forest girder]

I don’t have a stable income since I’m young so I’ll gladly wait

[formal kayak]

Then do that. No loss

[mortal parcel]

ahh so it was most likely their way of fixing the SKS tracking issue

[royal wagon]

i dont think so anymore

[mortal parcel]

yeah its deffinatly solved but at a price

[royal wagon]

its a quest tracking issue, not an SKS

[mortal parcel]

we lost 100% real alignment

[royal wagon]

hands are pretty much back to how they were before, its now fine, it just behaves a little differently

read my previous comments detailing the changes i noticed

[mortal parcel]

Well, the quest can track every other gun fine only the sks and bolt action have problem because they require the trigger hand to be held at forehead level

[royal wagon]

my suspicion is that a game plugin updated or had to get changed and it brought about different default offsets/positions, and they adjusted the new offsets to get it as close as possible to the previous position

[mortal parcel]

I feel lowering the level those 2 weapons are held at wouldve helped

That makes sense

[formal kayak]

This. Everyone keeps saying quest this and that, and they are probably right...but no other game has this issue...so...

[mortal parcel]

Well i really hope they can get them back to being aligned

[royal wagon]

it wasnt about holding your trigger hand at forehead level, it was the foregrip position required you to hold the front controller much lower, which wuold have your front hand occluded by your rear hand

if other games had the same gun geometry as GOT they would have the same issue

GOTs gun attachment point geometry for certain guns is wildly different than other games

[formal kayak]

But they don't....and they work....so why can't GoT?

[mortal parcel]

Exactly trigger hand had to be held higher and therefore blocking out the other hand which couldve been fixed by lowering the postion of the sks that it need to be held at like the ak for example which could be held lower and you could still see both controllers

[royal wagon]

they have the real life hand position matched much closer to where the game hand attaches to the gun, on weapons that have a very close to barrel grip point that requires you to hold it differently

[mortal parcel]

but their fix was to just make the hands be held more at an angle to assure tracking never being lost

which affects every gun

[royal wagon]

its not lowering, its raising

the angle differences than before are negligible

[mortal parcel]

Yes now it is at least very playable but the angle at which the gunstock must be held is still noticeably angled

[royal wagon]

that depends on your gunstock and how its configured

this is within the margin of differences between designs

[formal kayak]

Look, let's be honest, everything about GoT is amazing, but the gunplay is worse than most 5 quid VR shooters. They'll get there though I'm sure.

[mortal parcel]

very true i am using the KobraVR DMR and before these patches, had perfect alignment and now yes, I must hold it at an angle but I still play now

[royal wagon]

im not familiar with that stock, but if you can nudge the front a tiny bit further out that would probably fix it

or the back

[mortal parcel]

Yeah ill try that im fine with how it is now because Im at least able to play but i do hope they fix it completely in the future updates

[royal wagon]

this area is more of a up to you to fix level issue

[mortal parcel]

If they would implement our own ingame gunstock offset configs that would be perfect because like you said everyone has different designs

[balmy grove]

so did they fix it or not im confused

[formal kayak]

No.no. Telling ppl that it's on them to work it out is not the solution. GoT has terrible gunplay and stock physics, it's ok to say that, it will get fixed, but right now GoT has some of the worst gunplay/physics of any VR game on the market. Defending it is not the solution.

[balmy grove]

worst is kinda going overboard

[formal kayak]

What is worse?

[balmy grove]

me personally i think pop one has the worst gun mechanics

[formal kayak]

I certainly haven't played one yet that is worse that isn't a joke VR game.

[balmy grove]

its all opinionated though

[formal kayak]

I haven't played pop one so can't comment.

[balmy grove]

what u call the worse some people love

some people love pop one but gunplay to me is horrible

[formal kayak]

So you love the janky Got gunplay?

[balmy grove]

see what im doing here?

whats janky about the gunplay?

[royal wagon]

dude, you cant pretend that everybody's stock is going to be the same level of straightness and alignement positioning, 1mm difference in where the front controller mounts can change how "straight" the gun appears to point

[balmy grove]

describe it.

[royal wagon]

across manufacturers there is certainly going to be variations, even within one manufacturer there can be differences just with how closely the user attached their controller/cup/etc the same was the the manufacturer

[formal kayak]

Guns suddenly facing you, guns suddenly facing the sky...guns dancing around like crazy...gun barrels lolypopping left and right....

[topaz parcel]

Lets just make the gunstock calibration like onward. Boom, problem solved 😆

[balmy grove]

ive only had one of the issues u stated and thats when my guns disappear guns dancing around like crazy other than that those sound like typical tracking loss issues to me

[shut wharf]

Anybody know where to get ahold of KobraVr’s STL’s for printing? Bought the ultralight a while back and the front piece has snapped off, and his Etsy store seems to be down. Would rather just print my own at this point, PETG this time.

[formal kayak]

I don't get why this is even causing tension. GoT is going the be the game, or one of, that defines VR, but it's ok to say the gunplay is shite right now. Watch streamers, read forums, read here.....

[formal kayak]

Agreed....but it doesn't happen in other VR games....that's my point.

[topaz parcel]

I tried the whole offset calibration the other day. I dunno, didn't work well and was finicky. A not so easy way to adjust the Gunstock, if that is what its for.

As I said above, Make like onward.

[royal wagon]

i think the gunplay is fine in GOT, its more on the realistic side and is going full physics, which is some of the oddities when the gun decides to do a flip on you when initially grabbing or running into another object, but such is the way of full physics VR

the offset calibration is to change the vertical pointing direction of a single hand, it doesnt affect anything when you hold a rifle with two hands

[topaz parcel]

ah, well we need a full calibration for gunstocks.

[royal wagon]

yes, and its being worked on

[topaz parcel]

I'm not sure how I feel about the gunplay in GoT

Sometimes I feel like I hit targets dead on, others im like wtf just happened lmao

Just doesn't seem like it is accurate when using ironsights

I dont know about using sights yet really

[royal wagon]

the guns are accurate, you just need to learn the general dynamics of what the sights indicate your 50m zero points at

[topaz parcel]

Maybe. I dunno, like I said seems finicky ( to me atleast) and I'm well aware it's different than real life, but I was infantry/sniper for 6 years lmao

and I have no issues with aim in onward

or some other games

Just in this game, sometimes I am off

[royal wagon]

it was a bit rougher learning the gun dynamics at first than other games, but i dont have a problem landing my shots now

what stock do you have and how many hours are you at?

irons are always tricky, but you can hit with them

[topaz parcel]

the stock I'm new with, and I dont use it at all atm I don't feel like I can get it to adjust well to this game

[royal wagon]

learn things like whenever you pull the trigger the gun jumps even if you didnt have a round in it 🙂

[mortal parcel]

They just need to simply give us the option to adjust our offsets like Pavlov

[topaz parcel]

the stock is the VRS MKIII

When trying to use the stock it aims hard right and the ironsights don't line up

so I don't use it atm

[royal wagon]

you should be fine now, they changed the problem causing that today

[topaz parcel]

ah nice, I'll check it out then

[dire pendant]

Can anyone recommend a okay under bar stock for kinda cheap?

[formal kayak]

What VR setup you use?

Cause honestly, I think it's a quest 2 thing.

[royal wagon]

index + magtube

[formal kayak]

My mate does not have these issues at all.

Yeh, defo quest tracking issue then.

[forest girder]

Is there any noticeable bullet drop

[dry canopy]

Yeah that stocks questionable you need one with the cotrollers mounting on the top of the rail

[royal wagon]

yes, it varies on velocity, though the ranges we are using you wont see the drop much with most rifles

VSS/VAL is a different story since it is ~1/3rd the velocity of the 762x39/556x45 weaopns

[forest girder]

So I don’t have to adjust for it? Just point and shoot basically

[royal wagon]

mostly, there are only a few areas where you need to account for it

[forest girder]

Okay

[royal wagon]

the enemy will be approximately the size of the center dot in the combo sight 🙂 im glad we've been able to get the draw distance up high enough

standing on the big hill between labs and tents aiming at the hill close to base i think is over 300m

[agile zinc]

does anyone know any good gun stocks for the index?

[royal wagon]

magtube

[broken pollen]

got a magtube a couple weeks ago and LOVE IT

[agile zinc]

aight, i'll go check it out

[stoic cairn]

Had that until today.

[mortal parcel]

No they never had it they have to option for changing rotation offset but not full gun/hand offset config

[stoic cairn]

Guess what

[mortal parcel]

Pavlov allows you to adjust each and every offset for each specific gun to make sure everything aligns perfectly

[stoic cairn]

Full calibration is already coming so.

[mortal parcel]

Yes I hope it does I haven’t seen it in the announcements but people have been saying this

[forest girder]

I haven’t shot a gun irl so I don’t know how I should line up iron sights and such

[royal wagon]

most of the guns got contrast dots that should help guide you towards the correct alignment

[agile zinc]

I found the gunstock, but it uses euros(I use American currency), it's from Europe as it would take ages to get here, and thirdly it is a little pricey unfortunately.

[royal wagon]

your bank handles the conversion and shipping is still 2 day shipping

[agile zinc]

2 day shipping from there to SD?

damn, that's fast

I suppose it is something to consider in the future, not right now though, already spent $150 on fishing gear

[royal wagon]

yes, they are very good

[broken pollen]

I'm in the States as well. The shipping was quoted at 6 days and it actually arrived a day early (ordered it late Wednesday night and it arrived the following Monday and actually much less than that counting business days) so I was very pleasantly surprised about that. There is a drop down menu on the site which you can set the currency at USD. I actually didn't see it until; after i made my purchase. I used a CC thru PayPal and it auto-converted to USD, that part was completely painless. I wouldn't let either of these issues deter you.
However, you are correct about the price... It's definitely on the more expensive compared to other options. But like most things in life... you get what you pay for. Thats not to say that other stocks may not work great for less... but the mag-adapters for the index controllers are very well done and if your rolling with an index it does kind of limit your options (there seem to be a million options for Quest 2 controllers... not so much for the Index (from what my research turned up)
I've been using it for about 7-10 days... and it has made a tremendous difference in GoT... on top of that... the added emersion is really cool.

[barren spire]

Are the gunstocks working in game now and not offcenter with the new update?

[royal wagon]

its better, you should be good to go

[barren spire]

Sweet

[broken pollen]

apparently they are... from above entries

[barren spire]

Sorry i didnt scroll up to far

[broken pollen]

LOL... no worries

[ashen quartz]

can i get a gun stock for the valve headset

[gusty elm]

There’s a lot of gunstocks that work with valve headset. I’ve used the magni stock + and the magtube from protube. I currently use a combination of both. But either are really good! https://clips.twitch.tv/ObedientBrightButterNononoCat-kM777bV4c7G-aCGX

[barren spire]

Is it still off for quest 2? I had no issues with tracking before but with the last thursdayvupdate my off hand had to ve way off to the right too line up gun.

[slow frigate]

I use a Mamut for my index: https://www.mamutvr.com/products/apto-wasp-base-add-controller-option

[ashen quartz]

damn thats expensive

[slow frigate]

It is lol. Very sturdy and adjustable though. I broke 3 others before trying it.

I may be a tad rough on them though 😅

[ashen quartz]

i was about to say bud you do know u cant throw them in real life when ur out of ammo HAHAHA

[slow frigate]

Haha 😂

[ashen quartz]

thx for the help fellas ill look into it they both look good. anyone want ton play i never played with another person

[ashen quartz]

i watched the video does the valve controllers fit in?

[gusty elm]

they do, you just have to choose the option for index when you checkout.

[barren spire]

Does anyone know if physical stocks on quest 2 via airlink are usable without the offset with this hotfix?

[velvet lava]

I'm pretty sure it works on quest

Based off other people's response

I don't think it changes whether you are air link or wired

[velvet lava]

Are you actually marketing it?

[faint wigeon]

Yezzir I am.

[velvet lava]

Awesome

That thing is really cool

[fierce coyote]

I wanted a Kobra cqb si Bad but it wouldn’t come till July

[faint wigeon]

Thank you! The positive feedback I received on here from everyone really helped push me to make them and market them.

I've refined and Improved the design from the original video (and that gif) I posted. I just haven't gotten any updated clips yet, but soon I will.

[velvet lava]

I feel like it would work pretty well with shotguns

[faint wigeon]

Because it's spring loaded, it does work with shotguns from my testing. I wanted to make that a perk, it's pretty fun racking the shotgun with the physical feedback lol.

[near vortex]

@ashen epoch https://www.etsy.com/shop/KioMaestroVR

[near maple]

Hell yea it just came in

[pure crown]

worth it?

[near maple]

so far i love it

my only issue is the angle of the rear controller (ill get use to it) but other than that i am very happy with it

[velvet lava]

@surreal quarry are the arrows on the magnet supposed to point at the but or forward

[surreal quarry]

Forward towards the barrel

So you can pull back to secure the stock more and push the controllers forward to disconnect them smoothly

[near maple]

i have them on correctly

[candid coral]

Y so fat

[velvet lava]

are you sure cause the grooves match up when its pointed back

[surreal quarry]

You mean with the rail clamp?

@velvet lava

[velvet lava]

the stuff you put your controllers on

the magnet itself

[surreal quarry]

Yeah. I ran into the same issue

You need to flip the magnet base the other way

[velvet lava]

huh

[surreal quarry]

The rail clamp

That you put the controllers on

You need to turn it 180°

[velvet lava]

so the G should face right?

[surreal quarry]

Yes

[velvet lava]

ok

wait

i have to take apart

the entire thing

really?

@surreal quarry

bruh

[surreal quarry]

Yeah I did the same thing

[surreal quarry]

You should just have to take the middle joint off

That holds the back rod

Keep the front assembled

[velvet lava]

if you look at the pictures though it is different

the twisty things are on the right

[surreal quarry]

Hold on let me look

Idk bc the instructions said to have them face forward but you can have them back but you just can’t pull back on the controllers or they’ll come off

[velvet lava]

what do you reccommend

[surreal quarry]

I like the arrows forward so I can pull back to have the stock steady more. But it’s preference

[velvet lava]

aight

holy shit i can reaload so much better

i feel like an idiot

[pure crown]

Anyone like any of the gunstocks on Amazon?

[fading isle]

For quest I would use this one https://sanlaki.shop/products/magnetic-vr-rifle-gunstock?variant=36717246480549 its cheaper than some but is also durable

[molten fog]

@gentle echo

the akm with a sight i need to put it lower which is very annoying

plus getting used to putting the controllers in it fast

it also forces me to play slower :/

[gentle echo]

Thats pretty dope I had looked up some DIY stocks too but caved n bought one.

Do u use pistols with that?@molten fog

[molten fog]

ehh not really, i use it for really sketchy and long shots though, like across the garage in silo. usually i just hold it without it, its really steady not using it for pistols

[royal wagon]

Garage is long?

[royal wagon]

Bruh

[molten fog]

mhm

[royal wagon]

That’s short as hell

[molten fog]

oh ok so now all of a sudden 2cm is short

[surreal quarry]

It’s average some might say above average

[gentle echo]

😭 I feel u bro

[tame tendon]

[velvet lava]

Idk kinda big tbh

[coarse rampart]

my gunstock :p

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-bastard-cant-stop-eating-gif-21829039

[candid coral]

Hahahahah

That’s funny man

[surreal quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-yeah-baby-gif-22521962

[thick hatch]

For any that have a 3D Printer and are interested.
I have posted the MrTass Index QuickAim to Thingiverse and my shop.

• https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6002808

If you print one, let me know what you think/if it works well for you... angles and all that lovely stuff.

[gentle echo]

A hero

[candid coral]

Ye

[ashen epoch]

Currently in the process of prototyping cups for the Pico 4. Can't wait to let you guys try this out?

Quest versions are like these.

[quasi rose]

Do you have it working with tabor? Did you adjust it to the game?

[mortal parcel]

What do you guys think about this one?

Magnetic snaps in half

[molten fog]

aye, whatever tickles your pickle

[ashen epoch]

Looks good, I'm gonna test it with the Pico now, surprisingly works with the Quest too.

[mortal parcel]

@ashen epoch brother if you could make one that has a stock that folds I’ll order right now

[molten fog]

nahhh kio mine is way better (paper tower rolls > 3d printed finely made plastic)

[ashen epoch]

I could definitely make them. A folding mechanism will make it slightly costly and add to weight though.

But I could definitely make them.

[ashen epoch]

In what ways do you guys prefer it foldable?

[mortal parcel]

Kinda like the kobravr sidewinder but like a bottom tail like your would be perfect

[ashen epoch]

What if I just design one that has every single thing adjustable.

[mortal parcel]

I actually ordered from you last night kio I was the guys who cancelled like 30 minutes after cause I can’t make my mind up

[ashen epoch]

Gone be a bit heavy though, but still possible.

[mortal parcel]

That would be perfect very adjustable and very lightweight/compact

[ashen epoch]

hahahhaa its fine. I understand that.

[ashen epoch]

I'm up for the challenge!

[short geode]

This week I'll be testing something similar so I'll let you know bud

[mortal parcel]

Alright bro I’m gonna cancel the stock I just ordered and wait for yours I have a feeling you’re gonna come through with the design I’ve been looking for

I would love it like this but with like a foldable stock and more adjustability if possible and still very sturdy but lightweight as well

Stock doesn’t even have to be big like just something that can rest against your shoulder then snap fold into a lightweight handgun with quickness and ease then snap back into a rifle

[azure charm]

That is the single greatest sentence to ever be said

[ashen epoch]

I'm thinking of a stock like the Carbine Trio but with collapsible/removable rear stock which is also adjustable(angle)

[mortal parcel]

Yes kio that’s perfect if you can make that brother I will order as soon as possible

I’m willing to wait as long as you need I will definitely be buying from you bro

[ashen epoch]

Give me 1 week. I will come up with something! 😄

[mortal parcel]

No problem thank you kio

I added you let me know whenever it’s ready in case I don’t see it

I’ll be watching your Etsy page anyways for updates I appreciate you man

[ashen epoch]

No problem, Thank you to you too man. I'm suddenly motivated to start designing again. 😄

A quick note, if you want to visit my shop, you can click on my discord Bio, theres a link there.

[inner heron]

What gun stocks would you guys recommend for valve index

[royal wagon]

magtube

[ashen epoch]

Mann, although BowkVR has some similar designs to mine, I must say @acoustic spoke , you are one hell of a good designer. 🙌

[jade flicker]

Have my own DIY gunstock. Problem I have is that my fixed (right) controller tends to slide out very slowly (about 5 mm every 10 minutes, and growing worse). It is not 100% attacheched (so no velcro or magnet), just a very snug fit.
Did you solve this?

[acoustic spoke]

Not sure about the order of that sentence (almost reads like my designs copied yours - I'm sure you didn't intend it like that though) but thanks. Just tried to keep it simple and light

[acoustic spoke]

What design did you DIY? This shouldnt happen

[ashen epoch]

Oh that's not what I meant to say. English can be quite confusing to me haha. But I was trying to say that your designs are really2 good. I'm just happy to see another engineer aiming for the featherweight goal.

[jade flicker]

Wrapped a piece of carton around the controller very tightly, and then just ducctaped it. Made a cut where the grabbutton is.

It's all carton and ducttape. And few tiewraps to keep the movable placeholders in place.

but looking for a way to keep the right controller in place ALWAYS. Can velcro it a bit, but feels like there is no right spot to attach the velcro without interfereing with grip.

[elder grove]

anyone know of a good gunstock for a valve index controller? sounds like a bad idea from the controller shape but i would love one

[blazing nexus]

My magtube came in yesterday and this is what I came up with after four hours of calibrating for GoT. Hopefully it saves someone else some time. The stock and trigger hand feel perfect but the front hand is an optimized near miss that makes everything but compact smgs and sniper iron sights playable. I calibrated to an M4 which seemed to be a nice middle ground for front hand position.

[thick hatch]

See my post above for a cheap and simple solution... Free even if you have a 3D printer.

[plain canopy]

I heard a lot of good about the magtube, I’m waiting on mine to ship now lol

[inner heron]

I need that haptic feedback

[blazing nexus]

At first glance it looks overengineered but you really do need all of its adjustability to get something that functions and feels good.

[inner heron]

Only now did I know they do stuff for Valve

on their main page and some other pictures on the web I only see the Quest

[plain canopy]

They mostly advertise quest cause that’s what most of the market is

They make stuff for a lot of controllers tho

[plain canopy]

Honestly it looks super simple at the same time too

Some stocks are made to look like guns too and that I just never understood

Cause there’s almost no adjustable options, and anything smaller or larger would just be worthless to try shooting with the stock

[velvet lava]

@forest girder I completely forgot about the video cause I was configuring my stock but I get home earlier today so i can send it sooner

[forest girder]

Dw about it

Whenever you have time

[light prism]

Now this is nice. Handles have rubber lining on the inside, making it easy to use, while holding well on to the controllers. Sling mod soon.

[tacit plinth]

I ordered the Lopro for my index , it’s a top rail design

[elder grove]

aigh

[fickle widget]

I ordered a spine stock from Olen, just waiting on that confirmation email that my order is on the way

[light prism]

If you can, try adding magnets to the handles, and use 3M double sided tape on the controllers with a thin stripe magnet that is enough to hold them in place.

[wide harbor]

I ordered one last month and it hasn't came yet, is it any good?

[near vortex]

Plumbing pipe

Costs about 7 pounds or 10 dollars to make

[light prism]

I fancy your sling quite a bit 😂🤝

[ornate plover]

Is that rubber?

[gray maple]

3d printed gunstock

[jade flicker]

I did not feel the need for a sling. My carton DIY is super super lightweigt. What benefits does sling have?

[gray maple]

The sling makes it where u can let go of the gunstock to where u have both hands free and let’s u pick up things with both hands @jade flicker

[light prism]

Or you look to use a pistol, backpack, etc.

[gray maple]

That too

Bc when it comes to gunstocks it’s awkward to use the gunstock with a pistol in game

[polar glade]

Unless it's a half stock. That's where they shine

[gray maple]

I want a half stock quite a bit but no money for on and can’t find any files to 3d print one

[light prism]

You can easily make a half stock out of pvc pipes

[gray maple]

Yea true but don’t feel like have more clutter in my room

[light prism]

This is an image of mine just cropped in half

[gray maple]

I could easy make mine into a half stock it’s just some effort to put into it

[light prism]

True, I glued all the pipes in mine together, so it'll be some work to take apart 😄

[gray maple]

That’s the same with mine I glued all my parts together and now it’s a bitch to even try to take them apart

[molten fog]

Not really, I just hold onto the controller and the slot to put the controller in at the same tine

[light prism]

Are those cardboard or toilet rolls? I tried with toilet rolls before, and they didn't hold up well structurally

[elfin flicker]

but his has the magic ingredient: tApE

[lusty thicket]

I still think that's a really cool idea, how do they play I might cop one when you're all set up if it's not too expensive

[tight juniper]

What’s the best gun stock under 50 American bucks

That will also be good with sniping

[minor rampart]

Tha sanlaki mini is affordable but idk about sniping.

[tight juniper]

In tabor I mainly use the opsks with sniper scope

[queen badger]

@plain canopy I removed your order number from the channel. Please don't expose personal data on the internet.

[tulip dust]

@light prism @scarlet moat PoopTube power!
(1st ever made ProTubeVR stock dedicated to Onward and PKM gameplay back in 2016, I keep it like the holy grail)

[queen badger]

middle one 👌

[plain canopy]

thank you, didn’t think about that tbh

[tulip dust]

sorry, had to signal it 😅

[tight juniper]

Can someone help me with finding a good gunstock for sniping under 50dollors

[plain canopy]

I crossed it out the first time I posted about it so idk why I didn’t this time, just kinda skipped my mind

Also turns out it was technical issues holding the order, hyped it’s gonna be here by the weekend

[tulip dust]

you got shipment notice ?

[plain canopy]

Yep! I ended up sending a quick lil support thing and I’m glad I did cause they said there was an issue with the automatic status updating

So it could’ve been in limbo for a while

[light prism]

Oh wow 😮

[tulip dust]

it's why I never send a tomato to a PVC gunstock user,
Crappy, not adjustable, but cheap, make the job, and give you a glimpse of what it could be if you build/buy a 'real one'

[light prism]

Oh for sure, I quickly learned the SKS was incompatible with mine, but everything else worked just fine. 😛

[tulip dust]

as soon you enjoy the game and it don't get 'in the way', you're good

could even crappy attach a Forcetube to it 🤷

cause..... why not?

[low frigate]

It took me like 3 days to smoothly learn my mag tube. The force tube isn’t worth it if you have index controllers.

The vibrations mess with the gyros in the controller

[tulip dust]

kind depends on how badly valve did fuck-up your controllers on calib at factory

(have full channel about this on our discord....)

[low frigate]

Yee I tried using the index fix.

[low frigate]

They fucked em up 😂

[sand bridge]

Vrgmv2

[tulip dust]

the 'hand calib' is the only 'real solusion' to me, but it's complicated process

[low frigate]

I’ve talked with steam support for like 2 weeks and they keep having me unplug everything, reset, repeat. Kinda lost interest on trying to fix my controllers.

[tulip dust]

(made all my forcetube dev using knucles DVs, all was just fine cause calibrated by hand... desaster came with the full release)

[low frigate]

Dang

[tulip dust]

support just know 'unplug' and 'RMA'

[low frigate]

😂😂😂

[pastel galleon]

i feel so bad just killed a kid that surrenderd and said to him rule no. 1 do not trust people in this game and shot him

i am not saying if i was i nthe same situation i would'nt have done the same

but it feels bad

[pastel galleon]

you need to aks for a replacement they gave me new index controllers like in a 1 week process

now i have a oculus and have the same problem with stickdrift but im going to send them back friday and well see how long it takes

[rigid wave]

Oculus returns take a long time from my understanding

[pastel galleon]

yeah they need to go to Czech Republic

[jade flicker]

Oke. My slot extends quite heavily over the controller. It's like squizing a pimple.

[viscid ibex]

Anybody good at 3D printing?

[civic copper]

Any1 having issue with gunstock and pico 4??

[scarlet moat]

Yep i just used half a roll of clear tape to make them very sturdy

[faint wigeon]

No limit of money you say?

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-25532101

[royal wagon]

magtube full carbon gg ez

[random grail]

good new boiz

I found my VRS mk3 rifle attachments

[teal lava]

What’s the best gun stock for under 150$

[random grail]

subjective what are you looking for?

For example, do you want both hands detachable with the rail underneath to allow better tracking?

ProTube

You want something more "premium" VRS or Olen

you want something semi permanently attached? Kobra VR

Its really what you want to get out of the stock

and then you could go with Sanlaki I hear nothing but good things

[thick hatch]

All of the "seller" gunstock makers here... I would assume... But what do you need?

[jolly dust]

Home made its not the best but it works😂

[viscid ibex]

Dm

[dry canopy]

Protuberance and force tube supported now

[surreal quarry]

Does that include other stocks?

Like calibration or?

[dry canopy]

Prob not but someone with a pro tube needs to test

[royal wagon]

devs need to explain what protube support means

[pastel galleon]

its fixed

finally

heaven has come to earth!

[forest girder]

The offset?

[pastel galleon]

evreything

[forest girder]

Ima order a magni stock rn

[tulip dust]

🥳

[forest girder]

Must feel great for you

[tulip dust]

(still have to run at the office cause i forgot my module 🤦 )

[violet depot]

Soo forcetube/protube support added...does that mean the offsets are still broken for all the other gunstocks??

Like did they only fix protube/force tube stock hand placement

[tulip dust]

don't know at all,
as i understand it, should support forcetube haptics,
so have to test this asap by myself

[royal wagon]

#📢・announcements was clarified, its just the forcetube SDK support

[limpid wind]

I never understood gunstocks for vr

[violet depot]

But what does support actually mean

[royal wagon]

the forcetube is a haptic feedback module that if the SDK is used integrates with the game for feedback

[tulip dust]

get a kick in the shoulder when you shot

[violet depot]

Ohhh the haptics ok

I didn't know what sdk ment

[tulip dust]

(or haptic hand gun)

[limpid wind]

I feel as if I ever use a gun stock in vr I would break my controllers from trying to reload quick or something

[tulip dust]

should be native whith forcetube haptic modules,
so have to test PC and Quest builds

[royal wagon]

not a problem with a good stock design

[violet depot]

I went a few years without stock and bought one for this game...made a huge difference man

[limpid wind]

Yea but a 150$ for a pro stock. A well designed stick with magnets, stock, and magnet clamps for controller

Kind of interesting

Guess that's why a lot of people make their own

[haughty pelican]

I printed a sanlaki, I’ll test it now

[blazing nexus]

Anyone play with a force tube yet? I bought a magtube last week and passed on the upgrade since it wasn’t supported yet. 🤦‍♂️

[surreal quarry]

I’ve been having a bug where when I shot these black squares pop up

Wrong chat my bad

[blazing nexus]

Something is wrong with the ejected casing mesh/texture. Looks like a lot of people are experiencing it.

[haughty pelican]

SANLAKI alignments are perfect

[surreal quarry]

Ah ok good thought it was just me and my headset was fucked

[haughty pelican]

Sanlaki Gun stock alignments *

[forest girder]

Magni+ has been ordered

[lusty plume]

I've noticed I've had to twist my front grip in order to get mine to align correctly using the sleek dual magnetic gunstock for quest 2.

[tulip dust]

still have to test (just came home and forgot my module)

[blazing nexus]

I’ll probably buy one tonight anyways so it will get here in time for the weekend haha.

[blazing nexus]

Forcetube SDK support would mean it should now work with the Oculus version right? Or is that the compatibility tool requiring SteamVR?

[tulip dust]

should work on all plateform, and 'sdk' mean native, so no need of comp app unless you want to mod the effect

[blazing nexus]

One last question sorry. Your website has a table with Storm and Explorer modules compared but it looks like Explorer is the only option now?

[tulip dust]

(again, need to test and maybe tweak things.... usual disclamers^^)

[tulip dust]

yes, no storm available right now

[blazing nexus]

10/10 customer support 👍

[thick hatch]

New config to consider with the MrTass MagStock+ system... QuickAim with Butt Stock.

Essentially the same as layout as @ashen epoch

Although Kio's is certainly slimmer and a bit lighter, but you can adjust angles this way.

[forest girder]

@velvet lava i bought the magni

[velvet lava]

Nice

Do you still want the video

[forest girder]

Yea sure

[velvet lava]

Aight give me like 30

[forest girder]

🤌

[random grail]

Well the VSR Mk3 doesnt currently work in tabor big sad

[ashen epoch]

This is quite good 😮

Adjustable to the max

[thick hatch]

The is the goal of the system... build whatever you can imagine. 😉

I originally named it the eWreckTor system... but changed it to MagStock+ for relatively obvious reasons/issues with the previous name haha

But it did make me think of the classic Erector Set toys

I have been debating about putting all of my designs on Thingiverse directly/shared non-commercial with links to my shop for those that don't have 3D Printers or want to invest in the non 3D printed components... but haven't got around to it/final decision.

All of the component options... although I also now have a 45 degree rail that you see in the first image with the Full QuickAim.

I also have compatible Knuckle Grips that fit the Pro or Quest 2 Controllers now as well

[thick hatch]

The nice thing about the QuickAim with Butt Stock design... is you could use the solid state cup verses magnetic... and not need any magnets... only bolts to put it together and a little velcro for the Quest 2 controllers.

I could even merge an Index mount on to one of the "Mag Base" to give a SLD Adapter option there as well.

[graceful wave]

any good gunstocks for cheap? a magnetic one preferably

[velvet lava]

magni or the spine

[graceful wave]

can you dm me links? lots of fake ones

[velvet lava]

sure

https://www.glistco.com/products/magni-stock-carbon-fiber

https://www.olenvr.com/vr-gun-stock-accessories/spine-full-kit-vr-gunstock

[thick hatch]

check the pinned post @graceful wave

[tulip dust]

Just tested,
Forcetube and ProVolver haptic modules work natively in-game!!

On PC and Stand alone build,
Tuto to make it work :
Pair the module by Bluetooth to the Quest for standalone, pair it to the pc for PCVR... And you're done (will connect automatically when you run the game)
Ps : can be paired on both, so it pick what ever support you start the game

The setup I use :

[tidal nimbus]

I’m looking for something for naked runs (so guns could be any length)

[tulip dust]

🤷

this can fit anything on the fly

or this one^^

(cause now it's compatible 😋 )

[mortal parcel]

@tulip dust what’s the name of that last one?

Ahh protube

Something like that but without the haptic and expensive price would be nice

[tulip dust]

both are from ProTubeVR (me and 15 of us^^)

[mortal parcel]

Do they have a cheaper version of that?

[tulip dust]

previous photo

[mortal parcel]

Oooh Lemme take a look

[tulip dust]

'ProStarter'

[mortal parcel]

This guy has the right idea

[thick hatch]

The QuickAim solution lets you do whatever length/hand location for pistols to rifles and in-between

[boreal remnant]

Gunstock Calibration will be in the patch next week 🙂

[agile osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fresh-prince-of-bel-air-will-smith-shocked-surprised-yikes-gif-14043983

[thick hatch]

That is great news! particularly for this channel haha

[radiant crest]

How u gonna reload

[thick hatch]

It still amazes me the variations out there all doing relatively the same thing.

[thick hatch]

It separates/two parts... mag middle

[mortal parcel]

@radiant crest the rig snaps in half from magnets

@boreal remnant thank you you just relieved so many people on this chat

[velvet lava]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

[gloomy fossil]

Provolver support, love it!

[polar glade]

Is there a version of the provolver that doesn't have a magnetic base??

[molten fog]

@daring parcel

[lusty thicket]

Yeah I'm looking forward to him selling them

[molten fog]

@light shore

[daring parcel]

Pvc, duct tape, and a dream, I love it

[light shore]

those magnets?

[molten fog]

yee XD

[forest girder]

W

[lusty thicket]

It's 2 magnets that snaps in half with ease actually looks really cool just to stabilize your gun for longer range shots

[molten fog]

nope, like Raven said, pvc, duct tape, and 2 toilet paper rolls ;)

[daring parcel]

Also is that a nerf shoulder sling?

[light shore]

damn, thats prolly really annoying to reload right?

[molten fog]

no it came with my airsoft gun but i had a better one for it, so i used the old one

[molten fog]

no not really

[daring parcel]

I should do some engineering and make myself a stock

[molten fog]

ye honestly its not worth it to buy one, i made the PVC pipe stock for like 15 bucks

[daring parcel]

One trip to home depot could change my whole gameplay experience

[molten fog]

yea, after like a day or two of getting used to it you'll be beaming

[daring parcel]

I wouldn't need time to get used to it, I have a broken lever action bb gun I can steal the stock from and build from there

[hushed bridge]

I downloaded a gunstock from thingieverse and i had to modify it entirely in order to be usable for tabor, but now works pretty well looks aside!

[hushed bridge]

I have to do it, the one i have from airsoft is not comfortable

[tulip dust]

the magnetic base can be bolted so it's fix with the butt stock (need a long M4 screw)

[polar glade]

Thanks. Added to wishlist haha

[bold otter]

@lofty gorge is there a way to get gunstock callibration into Ghosts of Tabor.....right now im guessing where the bullets are going by the second iron sight

[willow verge]

Sorry but how do you pick up items quick or do you just move in without a backpack :?

[proper hull]

Devs are already working on it, was supposed to be in like 2 patches ago but seems to need more work

[bold otter]

thanks

[proper hull]

Actually, I missed this statement
#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

It's supposed to be coming next week

[lusty thicket]

Pavlovs virtual stock makes cqb a nightmare in my opinion

[tulip dust]

Just great!

[remote mirage]

Theirs two A and B mode one of them just helps with stabilization another like attaches it to your shoulder weirdly and A one is pretty good

[lusty thicket]

I swear I tried and didn't like both but maybe I'm going full schizo pilled or something

[remote mirage]

They might’ve adjusted it back when I played that’s how it was. A gun stock to help with stabilization would be nice. Real shooting I don’t have a problem with my shaky hands but in game makes sniping hard without sitting and using my knees to stabilize

[lusty thicket]

When I started VR I had really shakey hands but now I'm pretty accurate at any reasonable range

I want a physical gun stock but can't justify the cost for a good one

[remote mirage]

Just naturally have slightly shaky hands. Always have and because theirs no real weight my hands can’t stabilize long range shots well which can suck cause I love long range fighting and the gun stock options in Pavlov, contractors, and onward made that possible

[remote mirage]

I know man I’d love to save for the carbon fiber like really nice one but would def take some getting used to

[lusty thicket]

My hands are sometimes Shakey but I'm pretty good normally

[remote mirage]

Yeah it’s not a major problem but something that does suck to deal with at times especially cause this is largely the only game I play

Medium range I’m good even slightly long range when I have a few seconds to stabilize but really far shots I have to be sitting

[lusty thicket]

Play silo and get more close range fights maybe idrk

[remote mirage]

Yeah no pretty successful in raids and such just sucks on island when doing sniping runs that’s all other than that all good

[tulip dust]

@remote mirage have you considered going on other titles to 'train' some for fast aiming and CQC?

[remote mirage]

Have no issues with aim close and mid range just my shakiness has issues long range nothing to do with skill I just have shaky hands and because the controllers have no real weight it manipulates onto the weapon

[spring narwhal]

Same

[tulip dust]

Ghost of Tabor is damn nice, but maybe not for training (prefer more 'fast' tdm gameplay to train as you would go to Golf practice just to shot balls....) @remote mirage

[tulip dust]

Need a gunstock to solve this 🤷

[remote mirage]

Other games mitigate this with in-game gun stocks that help stabilize the weapon at the cost of slightly less manipulation. Basically adding weight to the weapon to help with stabilization which helps me not manipulate the weapon on accident

[remote mirage]

And yeah I probably will save or just steer clear of super long range fights for a bit

[tulip dust]

I thought you already had one...

(a gun stock)

Cause I just can't imagine aiming more than 4m away without😓

[remote mirage]

No sirrr that’s what I mean because I don’t have a stock my left hand being held out when my hands shake it manipulates the weapon just a little so it doesn’t affect close to medium range but long range makes aiming slightly more difficult and not as fast or clean

I’m John wick with aim close range lmao but far my hand shakes just enough to make me miss once I have a stock the issue will be nonexistent

[remote mirage]

If you have the same problem the only thing I’ve found to help has been keeping my gun down as often as safely possible to help keep my hand shaking from getting instense

[tulip dust]

Question is :
Do you want to migrate to gun stock gameplay or not?

[remote mirage]

Eventually yes but have other things that take monetary priority

[tulip dust]

Yes, could try to make a super simple thing in pvc just to line the controller,
And feel if it's something you would invest in future

[remote mirage]

I’ve tried them before and I want one just no money rn and I’m looking into possibly building one

[fluid locust]

https://www.glistco.com/products/magni-stock-carbon-fiber is this good?

[remote mirage]

From what I’ve heard about it yes it is

[tulip dust]

Kind of MagTube copie,
For same price can get an upgraded Magstarter
🤷

[balmy grove]

not cool.

[remote mirage]

Go on YouTube, there are detailed price breakdowns and quality checks on there about VR Gunstocks

[tulip dust]

What?

[balmy grove]

you know what you did or you wouldn’t have said what.

[primal grail]

If you've got the money, id go for one of the protube cqc stocks w the stock attachment

costed me approx 80 i think? and its done amazing for me on onward and this lol

[balmy grove]

it’s an affordable version of a similar stock you make. not even one to one and actually one of the best affordable full stocks.

[tulip dust]

But all tend to forgot about the prostarter with a but stock... And it's less expensive compared to many... And it's a ProTubeVR thing

[remote mirage]

I’ve seen a couple reviews about the protube

[balmy grove]

i would recommend it yes.

[primal grail]

After reading the room, I now realise it probably wasnt the best time to recommend a protube.

[remote mirage]

Yeah that’s what Bourin01 was recommending I believe

[primal grail]

I think he was claiming it was a copy of a protube.

[tulip dust]

Speaking about this one, not the Magtube

[remote mirage]

Ah possibly I have limited experience with the gun stocks

[primal grail]

Fair enough. I don't think it matters as long as the one you use works for you tbh

[remote mirage]

I want one just can be expensiveeeee

[tulip dust]

Why?

[balmy grove]

magni stock is a full stock that’s fully adjustable and you can get for $67 after tax .

[primal grail]

That's very good tbf

[balmy grove]

and the tubes are carbon fiber

[remote mirage]

Oh hell yeah I’ll have to look into it. Amazon? Or their own website?

[balmy grove]

use their website it’s cheaper than amazon

https://www.glistco.com/products/magni-stock-carbon-fiber

[remote mirage]

Sweet I’ll ss that and keep it in mind savin for a pc rn

[primal grail]

Thats a good choice tbf

[remote mirage]

Frfr

[primal grail]

ngl after trying fully metal tubes and carbon fibre ones, im honestly not sure what i prefer

thing is w gunstocks. if they get too light, they feel a bit odd to use imo

I might just be weird tho, so don't take that as fact

[remote mirage]

Only reason I’m getting it is to help with my shaky hands and using the carbon fiber it helps the perfect amount and the weight wouldn’t bother for long term use over and over that’s why I’ve been looking at the lighter options

[primal grail]

thats fair. Rn mine is a mix of both

The actual main pipe is carbon, stock is metal

it feels just heavy enough to be immersive / stable, but not actually clunky / too heavy

[remote mirage]

Sounds like a good mix cause weight seems to stabilize my hands so maybe a little extra could help a little more over the full carbon cause I mostly need it for long range shooting

[primal grail]

thats what I was thinkin

i only have a cqc stock, but tbf you dont need a long one unless you plan to ONLY snipe

[remote mirage]

Yeah no I’d use it for most if not all guns most likely

[primal grail]

same here

I used it for onward for months n it was spot on, so

[remote mirage]

How is it with getting your weapon holstered and quickly changing to secondary like if you ran out on your primary

[primal grail]

well, that depends

so. the front controller part of the stock is magnetic for easy removal etc

[lusty thicket]

The magni stock is one of the stocks I've been looking at it's pretty cheap and seen

[primal grail]

so when i grab my sidearm, i use my left / front hand (im ambidextrous so i can use either)

but for right handed, it should still be very easy

[lusty thicket]

I thought on the magni stock both are magnetic

[primal grail]

i use a protube, not magni

ill send a pic of my stock rq, for reference

[lusty thicket]

Ohh nvm

[remote mirage]

The back controller uses a magnet as well right?

[primal grail]

on mine it just slots in, although its decently easy to remove without being loose

ill get a quick video, hol up

[lusty thicket]

Magni stock does apparently pro tube doesn't

[remote mirage]

Ah okay cause way I was thinking was like getting the primary holstered and quickly changing to both hands on secondary

[elfin flicker]

to which protube stock are your referring to? I have a protube and both controllers have magnets.

[primal grail]

i use the cqc one

think its called the starter or smthn

You can see the magnet on the top, where my hand is

But that other cup stays on the stock

[remote mirage]

Got you okay

[elfin flicker]

oh, I've got the magtube full stock.

[primal grail]

thats fair, i didnt see a need for it personally

[primal grail]

but yeah. the front cup stays on the controller so you can pull it on / off the stock, whilst the firing hand stays on the stock, and you can just get the controller out

[remote mirage]

Gonna be fun hoppin on soon with this big ass blister on my thumb😂

[remote mirage]

And okay cool thanks

[elfin flicker]

I don't think I'd be a fan of not being able to quickly detach my dominant hand from the stock.

[primal grail]

It takes getting used to, but you can literally just drop the stock n pull your hand up a bit n itll fall out

[remote mirage]

Hell yeah okay cool

Ight well ima go run it good talkin to y’all appreciate the help

[polar glade]

That's how Bowk does it. Just has a design intended for easy removal of controllers rather than magnets

But still requires a movement, doesn't just fall out

[balmy grove]

magni magnets are probably the strongest though i’ve seen people use magni magnets on their protube

[elfin flicker]

No, chrome tubes.

[polar glade]

I tense too much. Magnets don't work for me sadly

[primal grail]

I can legit just shake the controller n it’ll fall off

[elfin flicker]

The chrome tubes work just fine for me.

[balmy grove]

magni magnets don’t come off unless you want them too barley even move either

[primal grail]

its very light, + obviously i have a sling for it]

[elfin flicker]

not really

[remote mirage]

Carbon fiber

[polar glade]

You haven't seen me get jump scared lol

[elfin flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094832435541323828/1098831784512323654/IMG_0884.mov

[primal grail]

i hold the entire stock, then to drop the controller i simply let go of the stock

[primal grail]

@remote mirage this answers your question from before btw

[remote mirage]

Thankssss

[primal grail]

its a LOT better to aim with imo

[gusty elm]

That’s exactly what I do

[elfin flicker]

The main benefit you get from a protube magtube is the increased adjustability over something like the magni

[primal grail]

a lot more stable due to more points of contact

[lusty thicket]

With gunstock calibration coming soon is that added adjustability even that big of a difference for tabor

[primal grail]

id say so

[balmy grove]

what makes it more adjustable?

[primal grail]

you can calibrate it all you like, but half of having a stock is having it be physically comfortable too, which is what the added adjustability helps for.

[lusty thicket]

Like the magnistock still seems to have a decent amount of adjustability

[balmy grove]

the magni let’s you move the height of the cheek rest as well

you can change controller angle

stock angle

[elfin flicker]

Considering you can bend it in a lot more ways to make it more comfortable to your body, I'd say so yes.

[balmy grove]

you can bend the magni the same way you bend a protube…

[elfin flicker]

has more adjustment points, and even allows you to adjust the strength of the magnets

[balmy grove]

like where you haven’t told me anything exact

[lusty thicket]

Hmm I don't see that making it worth almost 2x the price still but it's all preference

[tulip dust]

Test to do this afternoon

[elfin flicker]

in a basic sense, yes, but the protube has more points, such as the angle of the part that actually contacts your shoulder.

[balmy grove]

and you would never have to make magni magnets stronger than they are. you can angle the shoulder part on magni as well

just unscrew the bottom part on the pipe and change the angle

[gusty elm]

Magni stock you can only bend in 1 area and the protube you can bend in 3 areas. The stock can bend and then you got 2 bend pints on the tube

[primal grail]

Honestly I think whatever stock works for you is the best stock.

[elfin flicker]

yeah there's only one point to bend it, and it's in the middle.

[balmy grove]

ok you have a point but it makes up for it with the adjustable cheekpad height IMO

[primal grail]

That can be done w protube too.

If you don't mind less adjustability, id go for the magnitube then

since i imagine its still decent quality

[gusty elm]

I have not the magni and protube and can’t say anything bad about either

https://clips.twitch.tv/ObedientBrightButterNononoCat-kM777bV4c7G-aCGX

[elfin flicker]

Yeah, but could you make the magnets weaker if you wanted to be able to disconnects more easily?

[balmy grove]

disconnects are already easy af

never struggled to pull my controller off the magnet

[balmy grove]

do you struggle removing controllers or maybe miss the magnet tuning feature?

[gusty elm]

Nope. I did struggle missing with the protube. So I put my magni controllers cups on my protube and where the magnet is much stronger i hardly ever miss.

[small tide]

what company

[forest girder]

Ordered mine yesterday it said 10-25 days

[gloomy fossil]

@tulip dust this is the setup I use. The pro controllers are the big difference here. They allow full auto of the provolver without the tiny jitter bouncing you get with q2 controllers full auto. The tracking is just superb on pro controllers. I would just recommend using a shorter tube that only comes out to where you connect the rear magcup, so it won't get in the way of the reloads.

[supple hare]

me with pvc and a dream lol

[tulip dust]

Just tested dual forcefeedback set-up,
It work!

(like other many 'rifle games', if you pair 2 modules and run Ghost of Tabor, both will act together)

[small tide]

i still want the starter 😭it’s the last one i need

[mortal parcel]

Damn thats what vr gaming looks like when you have a money printer at home

[blazing nexus]

Forcetube order placed! 💸

[pure crown]

Ok I’m not tryna spend to much rn on a stock would it be worth it to get this one temporarily??

[weary sleet]

One v one me pussy

[delicate shale]

without an actual stock for your shoulders that doesn't do very much, I have the full sanlaki and that version and without a buttstock it's only ok, if you're buying off etsy put it in your cart for a while and you might get a discount thrown at you, I got 20% off my magnistock+ just for letting it sit in my cart for a day or 2, if I had to choose from the stocks on etsy the magnistock is the best but you cant use whatever grips you want like kiwi extended grips that you can use on the sanlaki but the sanlaki lets you move the front controller back and forth so you can use everything from pump shotguns to smgs to rifles, the fixed versions like the protube and magnistock can be kinda clunky for smgs and suck for shotguns, and the magnistock adjustable cheek rest is very similar to the 3rd bend point on the protube as they basically adjust the cheekrest level but the magnistocks adjusts much quicker, i find that the prostock and magnistock are so similar it's hard to tell the difference without the haptics and the sanlaki is fantastic as well so it's really just preference or price

[pure crown]

I really appreciate this I’ll definitely take this into consideration 💯💯💯

[delicate shale]

youll find with the short one you get more stability than without it but without a buttstock you aren't going to be able to raise your arms up to the sights perfectly every time, youll still have to find your sights, with a buttstock thats calibrated you just raise your hands and the sights are perfectly lined up every time which I think is the whole point

[pure crown]

That makes sense so what about if I were to get the i stock which is just the buttstock idk if you’ve heard of it

[delicate shale]

the istock is just the rear one if i remember correctly so you'll get more stability but you'll have to rely on your muscle memory to bring the front controller up to the correct point to grab the sights more than you would with a fully fixed stock, it's definitely a hard choice when it comes to the price between the 2 but the extra $30-40 for the whole shebang does seem worth it to me

I'd read a bunch of reviews on anything like that to see if there's any quirks that aren't worth the money you're spending

the sleek from sanlaki seems like the cheaper version of the the full sanlaki so if you're looking to save some cash that's about as cheap as you'll find a full stock

[delicate shale]

ya $50 for the istock vs $60 for a sleek or even $70 got a magnistock if they throw you the discount, theyre all so close it's hard to justify honestly

[forest girder]

I wouldn’t get the istock. Sleek idk about but ive heard good things about it, i have ordered a magni+ myself.

[tawny swift]

So you say you would buy a magnistock or a sanlaki? cause im thinking about it too :D

[delicate shale]

ya i got mine for $70 after a 20% discount i got for letting it sit in my etsy cart for 2 days

[agile osprey]

did you reach out about your order to our email or live chat?

[delicate shale]

I bought both and they each have their advantages

[forest girder]

I used a promo code and got it for a bit over 70

[delicate shale]

sanlaki can use shotguns and smgs because you can move the front grip forward and back and you can use any grips you want, the magnistock has more adjustability and the cheek rest is very quick to get adjusted even in game

[delicate shale]

cant use any grips you want with the magnistock tho so it's really just preference, theyre both 3d printed for the most part but still very good

[tawny swift]

yeah i guess its the sanlaki for me then. i need my extended grips otherwise they are too small ^^

thank you very much tho for helping cause i wouldve bought the wrong thing probably xD

[delicate shale]

ya i miss my kiwi extended grips when i use the magnistock lol

[tawny swift]

which one do you use more often or which one u like more?

[delicate shale]

theyre both equally as effective but I tend to like the super quick cheek rise adjustment of the magnistock, but if im gonna use a shotgun i swap back to the sanlaki

[delicate shale]

the sanlaki mounts on the top and the magnistock on the bottom of the controller so it's super quick to swap if I leave the mounts on

[river juniper]

I use both KobraVR sidewinder and the Sanlaki. Since I've got the Sidewinder, I've found myself using it more and more than my Sanlaki. Mainly due to more speed in looting and going back to having my rifle ready seamlessly.

[delicate shale]

ya that was my experience with it too, if I'm not swapping from shotguns to smgs to rifles then the magnistock works great so I tend towards that one

being able to pump your shotgun with the mounts attached on the sanlaki is amazing tho

[river juniper]

Agreed!

[small tide]

he’s the founder of protube lol

[delicate shale]

I'm ordering a protube too, I have a shopping addiction i think lol

[royal wagon]

magtube ftw

[delicate shale]

oh its the protube lol, i was like damn another one Im gonna want to try

[small tide]

i have all protube but i want the starter

[royal wagon]

yeah thats the newest protube

[delicate shale]

the magnetic cups attach from the side on this one instead of the top or bottom right?

[royal wagon]

its angled, it feels like the bottom though it is slightly on the side

[blazing nexus]

The magtube feels so great I just went back for the forcetube too. I wish I bought them both together and saved some money but didn’t want to be out so much if I didn’t like the stock.

[royal wagon]

its a really optimal way to do it

[delicate shale]

ya it looks like a magnistock with the side cut off

[royal wagon]

theres a lot of engineering in how the magnet attaches, things that make it hard to accidentally remove when you dont want to, strong enough to put force against when you need it, and easy to remove when you want to

[delicate shale]

I'm wondering if the haptics are worth the money honestly

[blazing nexus]

Yeah it was a tough purchase. I slept on the idea for a few days before buying. When it arrives I’ll find out.

The price is steep but I understand it given the low sales volume. You’re paying for the software too.

[delicate shale]

$300 for some rumble, it better be like real rifle style vibration lol

[agile osprey]

I don't know where you got that impression from, but we respond to people every single day and i'm not sure if you're aware but the fulfillment time has been steadily increasing because of the extremely high demand we've been getting for the past 2 months on a daily basis. So we're at 16 to 20 business days and I can tell you where your stock is in the queue and have sent multiple video updates to folks waiting on their order.

[mortal parcel]

It’s just gonna mess up your aim basically handicapping yourself

Everyone else will laser beam you while you turn the wall into Swiss cheese as your controllers punch you in the face 30 times a second

[delicate shale]

if the stock actually had a real ar 6 position buffer so I could slap on all my extra stocks I've acquired over the years i'd buy it in a second, I've only found 1 so far that would allow me to put a real magpul stock on

[mortal parcel]

@pure crown Elo?

[agile osprey]

The weight of that butt might offset the stock quite a bit. Roughly how much does your stock weigh?

[mortal parcel]

My chess username joemister333

Let’s play

[delicate shale]

a2 style buttstocks are maybe a pound or 2, I'm not sure about magpuls versions but theyre similar, ar buffer tubes are cheap and allow for length of pull adjustments so you dont feel like you're holding a mini rifle

[agile osprey]

Gotcha, the overall weight of the SPINE is about 2lbs alone. JbahrVR is a streamer who uses the SPINE and uses the forcetube. Since that module is heavy he added a fishing weight on the front of the stock.

Do you think it'd be a good addition to have spots to add weights to the stock to balance it out with custom parts?

[delicate shale]

adjustable stock length is my biggest pet peeve with vr gunstocks, weight adjustments would be good but if the stock feels too small in length then I tend to want to grab a stock that fits my arm length

[blazing nexus]

That’s probably for the best tbh. I’m a middle aged man beating up on kids who have been alive half as long as I’ve been playing fps. The crutch will make things more balanced and intense.

[royal wagon]

thats why highly adjustable gunstocks are a requirement imo, this was a big deciding factor for me 6 years ago when i got my first protube

gotta get that length of pull in, and a comfortable supporting grip, and be able to adjust it for the different games gun geometry, or in GOT each gun is different

[agile osprey]

We've tested hundreds of people's comfortable stock length and the sizing chart we currently offer is very accurate.

That being said though I completely understand what you mean and it's something on our list to do within the next month or two

Along with the ability to use the entire underside of the stock to mount your hands, it'll be highly adaptable

[delicate shale]

I've always thought that all the stocks would be improved greatly with an adjustable stock, I used to shoot 3 gun competitively so it just feels weird to be holding an ar15 in game with an smg length stock

[agile osprey]

Which is exactly why i'm currently taking shooting classes and going to all the shooting ranges in my area to get a better understanding of what long-term shooters need/prefer

[agile osprey]

Thank you for explaining this helps me a lot

[royal wagon]

well, you could look at it from the fact of being able to get your optimal shooting ergonomics for your vr stock regardless of what the shape of the gun is, there are disadvantages to a weapon that is too small

with the protube i get my optimal shooting comfort for any gun i wield, well, with GOT its most of the time 🙂

[mortal parcel]

@blazing nexus if you’re as good as you say you are then yeah that’s a good point

[delicate shale]

that's why I suggested the 6 position buffer tube, it allows everyone from a little girl to a huge dude to fire the same firearm comfortably

[royal wagon]

once we get gunstock calibration it will be more uniform

[mortal parcel]

@royal wagon I can’t wait brother

It’s been what I’ve been complaining about mostly 2 days ago if you remember😂

[royal wagon]

thats a bit overkill to solve the length of pull problem, that design goal can be achieved in other much simpler ways

[delicate shale]

true any adjustability would solve the issue

[pure crown]

Hella informative bro ima look into that Sanlaki one rn since servers are down

[mortal parcel]

This is what I’ve been using

[royal wagon]

thats why ive got probably 5000+ hours on a protube/magtube

[mortal parcel]

Kobra DMR metal bar and stock removed and 2 front pieces glued together

Makes me a beast

[pure crown]

Does something like that work with AR’s?

[blazing nexus]

😂 Is that the big boy or the 5 joule?

[mortal parcel]

Yup but the thing is some that require a longer grab Reach I must grab it first then put the other controller in the grip

TBH I found that the shoulder stocks aren’t really necessary

[tulip dust]

explorer

[mortal parcel]

As long as you have stability and more freedom for grenades and stuff it’s more better

[royal wagon]

i really enjoy games with distance shooting, i wouldnt want to play without a proper cheek weld and a good shoulder tuck

[mortal parcel]

Only reason I was looking for a new stock is because of the offsets but if they really add the calibration I’ll be fine with mine cause it works great

[pure crown]

I don’t have a stock yet but I feel like that’s my thought process ab it

[delicate shale]

ars have grips that are wider or shorter for bigger and smaller hands and the buffer has 6 positions usually to adjust the length your arm has to be pushed forward to grab on the fire control group so you can operate the safety and trigger while your arm is supinated so you are using your biceps to hold up the rifle instead of your forearm, same thing goes for the front grip

[mortal parcel]

@pure crown yeah honestly bro I’ve tried the ones with the fixed shoulder stocks and they really get in the way you don’t feel free because the whole game isn’t just holding a gun and shooting you got to do a lot more and having the freedom plus the stability a stock like mine or any other stock like it will give you so much more fun

[delicate shale]

your biceps are far stronger than your forearm so adjusting the rifle to fit makes it way more accurate for follow up shots

[agile osprey]

So majority of the weight on your trigger arm and the off hand is just a stabilizer right?

[royal wagon]

a good stock design lets you have the freedom of freehand and the stability of 4 points of contact

[delicate shale]

yes and your forward grip being supinated is far more important, thats why angled foregrips are so effective, vertical grips are mostly used to muzzle punch people

[agile osprey]

what other style stocks do you have experience with?

[mortal parcel]

Idk if it’s just me personally but I found I can aim perfectly fast and precise with just my small stock without a cheek rest and shoulder stock

[agile osprey]

that angled foregrip style with our stock is definitely tricky to not feel awkward but I know what you mean

[royal wagon]

i made a pvc tube when i first got into vr almost 7 years ago, but was unhappy with the overall experience and then i got a protube

[delicate shale]

ya in vr it's a bit different but you can hold your rifle steady for far longer with an angled vs a vertical

[agile osprey]

How close to your body do you keep your hands?

[royal wagon]

and once hte magnetic attachment system came out there was never a need for anything else

[mortal parcel]

Yes a shoulder stock will help a lot with stability but I feel it’s more towards emersion rather than actually helping aim

@agile osprey not close at all I actually hold both hands out

[royal wagon]

i had several H3VR MEATS top 3 records that were up for over a year

[delicate shale]

if you look up arm supination and then apply that to a rifle you'll see what i mean, you'll see operators doing the thumb over barrel grip to achieve the same results so they can hold their rifle and point shoot much easier, just point your thumb and bam

[agile osprey]

That seems so counter intuitive on paper but everyone's different!

[agile osprey]

So is it safe to say you haven't tried a bottom mounted stock yet? 😏

[agile osprey]

will be doing that today then, I think I already have an idea of what you're referring to

[royal wagon]

no, and i dont have a lot of desire to do so, i reach my hand down towards my waist where the tube rests and it snaps into place more or less instantly and then im back up

top mounted would require moving my controller around and wrangling getting the attachment point in place

[agile osprey]

interesting, our stock has that exact ability as well. Not saying to try ours, but it's an entirely different feel. Coming from experience with using both styles

[agile osprey]

that's incorrect

[royal wagon]

i mean, its on the opposite side, so it cant

[tawny swift]

Does anyone have any experience with the Tomahawk Gunstock from SkolVR? (I think its his product not sure tho)

[royal wagon]

the stock rests behind my hand when its slung down, so in order to get the mount on the top of my controller to attach to the underside of the tube, i have to move my hand back and curl the top stock around to get it back into place

[agile osprey]

are you saying this is the case for bottom mounted stocks you've used in the past?

At least with ours you definitely don't have to do that

[royal wagon]

how am i going to be able to lower my hand down and attach a cup on top of my controller to the bottom of a tube thats below my hand?

im not understanding how this is supposed to work, the physics dont make any sense to me, im open to being enlightened

i get my firing hand reattached to my tube with one hand and a short motion

ive got my magpul sling length set to sthat the magnet rests eactly at my waist where my hand lowers to

[agile osprey]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[royal wagon]

that clip is doing exactly what i said

top mounted would require moving my controller around and wrangling getting the attachment point in place

[agile osprey]

You mentioned fiddling trying to find where to mount so I was showing how easy it is to mount

[delicate shale]

the only thing I was worried about with a bottom mounted gunstocks was occluding the tracking rings but it seems bottom mounted works just as good as top, the bottom mount let you use any grip you want which is a huge plus for me

[agile osprey]

Tracking issues are extremely rare, especially with an Index. But I will say it's not perfect but very close lol

[delicate shale]

even with 1/3 of the quest 2s tracking rings occluded it still works just as good as when they're mounted on top with nothing in the way

[agile osprey]

what are these reactions 😂

[tulip dust]

I prefer not 'interfering' with the discussion^^

[agile osprey]

@tulip dust just an FYI no shade or anything being thrown lol only informative about our stocks 🤙🤙

all just discussion/debate from our end

[royal wagon]

that does look fairly smooth, he does look down though. to me it makes a lot more sense to have the attachment point be on the bottom of the controller for consistency sake, the base of my grip on my controller is in a much more definite position than the top surface that has all manner of design and shape differences

this has lead to the protubes designs consistency strength where i can take a stock and swap it between different controllers and the guns are in the same place (in other games at least)

[tulip dust]

no prob,
I consider myself a little 'one sided' to discuss this particular point 😋 ,

but i enjoy
🍿

[delicate shale]

it just takes getting used to, I fumble on both designs for a bit until I'm used to it and I dont have to look down for either

[royal wagon]

probably true, i like being able to snap my hands out and my stock drops down from below right away so my hands are never in the way

[agile osprey]

I can say I'm biased too (though I try to not let it get in the way of the discussion), but that's why we have our brands and logos up ✌✌

[royal wagon]

and same with bringing the stock back up, either removing or adding stock never has my arms in the way

[delicate shale]

I think the main difference is being able to use a pump shotty or not, other than that it's just preference as they both work really well

[mortal parcel]

@delicate shale yes that’s the problem with my stock they are unusable for me

[agile osprey]

that makes sense, sounds like it boils down to preference. Shortstack used our SPINE for a bit and went back to his protube he's been using for years. I can see after a while some folks will develop a specific muscle memory

[random grail]

Kobra VR has a shotgun pump solution

though its a bit pricey

[royal wagon]

muscle memory is a big part of it, waaaaaay back in the day before the magtube stuff came out i had to pull my front controller out of the cup in order to reload, and i got so fast at that i could reload faster than most people freehand

like being able to throw the new mag in the air, pull and toss the old one, and catch it and pop it back in

but that was fun unity physics, bit different than this game

[random grail]

free hand like this?

[royal wagon]

unity throwing always seemed better to me

[delicate shale]

reloading is like 100x faster without a stock lol, I didn't realize how slow it was until my nephew pointed it out to me

[royal wagon]

include going from accurate aim to accurate aim

[agile osprey]

I came into VR in 2019 with the Q1 so all of that is completely foreign to me 😅

[delicate shale]

true you do have to find your sights each time so its probably similar

[royal wagon]

cheek weld doesnt even require thinking on where to aim

[delicate shale]

i just point shoot half the time with a cheek weld it's insanely quick with everything lined up

[agile osprey]

that makes a whole lotta sense actually

shit now we need to make our cheek weld quicker lol

[royal wagon]

i mean, if you get your length of pull and cheek weld stuff all setup right, it automatically aims in the right place biomechanically, thats why rifles are designed the way they are

well, one of the reasons

[tulip dust]

as i said, no prob,

I just prefer say :
better never attach anything to controller top
(general advice, for many reasons...)

I'm just not well placed to public criticize other's work (i tend to respect anyone's design, as soon it's usable, and not a MagTube copie)

[delicate shale]

I have a hard time giving up my grips tho, unless the cheekrise is quick to adjust I have a hard time giving up the grip extensions, for me it's such an even trade off between the 2 designs it comes down to what guns do i plan on using

[royal wagon]

grips?

[delicate shale]

the quest 2 has tiny controllers so for big hands grip extensions are extremely comfortable

[royal wagon]

oh

i had grip boosters on my index controller for a while

i seem to need to switch back and forth from time to time to keep hand cramps at bay

[tulip dust]

grip?

[royal wagon]

adding grip tape was a nice change too

im on naked controllers at the moment

[tulip dust]

the shape 'booster' for the index?

[delicate shale]

kiwi grip extensions for quest 2 are extremely comfortable compared to the stock tiny controllers with a magnetic grip cup at the bottom

[tulip dust]

ok

[delicate shale]

it depends if you have big or small hands tho

[tulip dust]

you think magcups are to short?

(asking cause it's not a common complain)

[delicate shale]

on the magnistock theyre not much longer than a normal quest 2 controller, I'll have to test the protube to see if they're similar

if you have big hands then the quest 2 controllers feel really small honestly

[tulip dust]

Our's look like this

Questpro and quest 2 have same size

[delicate shale]

ya they're about the same as the magnistock, it's a very small issue as they're still usable but if I add a grip extension they feel perfect, very small pet peeve

[tulip dust]

feel way longer than nude cup

[delicate shale]

I'm thinking those are a little longer than the magnistock which definitely makes me happy

[kind parcel]

I run the magni+ and ive been doing great. I order a sanlanki or whatever to test out all day today and see if its any better or worse.

[delicate shale]

sanlaki lets you use any grip extensions and pump shotguns, and the magni is great all around but I'm definitely going to order the protube to give them all a try

the straps are compelling

i hate feeling like I'm going to throw my controller even with wrist straps

[kind parcel]

yeah i realized yesterday that i couldnt pump a shotgun with the magni

[gusty elm]

I really like the magni stock + controller cups. I bought a protube and I just put the magni cups on my protube.

[delicate shale]

lol and they fit? hell ya

[gusty elm]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ObedientBrightButterNononoCat-kM777bV4c7G-aCGX

They sure do lol

[tulip dust]

they use 18mm tubing like us if i remember,
so Forcetube should also fit^^

[delicate shale]

i love some good interoperability, I could create a frankenstein stock it seems

[gusty elm]

Well actually. I had to keep the circle piece that slides on the protube and the second piece that screws into that piece was the magni stock controller part

[tulip dust]

(same for mamut...)

[gusty elm]

If that makes any sense lol

[static lake]

do gun stocks inprove ur aim a bit?

[gusty elm]

Yes

And in most cases a lot

[tulip dust]

so not same diameter?

[static lake]

i have a valve index what do you reccomend?

[delicate shale]

not just that, they allow you to raise your arms and your sight is lined up perfectly, no need to find your sight each time so its a HUGE advantage at times

[gusty elm]

Magtube or magni stock

[gusty elm]

Correct

[tulip dust]

ok

[delicate shale]

i think hes talking about the 2 pieces of the magnetic mounts, the bottom part attaches to the tube and the top part attaches to the controller, he swapped a magnistock top onto a protube bottom

[gusty elm]

Yes this is what I was trying to say lol

[tulip dust]

roger

[delicate shale]

i'm excited now to swap some stuff and see whats good lol

definitely going to keep my single/double magpul sling tho, i can't stand using elastic slings and doubles are really only good to keep a real rifle from smacking your knees while you walk which isnt an issue in vr

[gusty elm]

Yeah the magnets are Just stronger on the the magni stock and allowed for more error. It always just pulls it in place.

[delicate shale]

ya the magnistocks magnetics are like perfectly balanced

[tulip dust]

you tried to play a little with magnets hight on the magtube cups?

(sometime both parts need to wear out a little to complette snap and give full force... can mod this with shims under the magnet)

[gusty elm]

No i didn’t know you could do that till after the fact. I will try it again and see but I feel my muscle memory used to the magni controller cups now.

[tulip dust]

(it's to avoid any wobble)

[delicate shale]

adjusting the magnet height seems like a great feature, I'd love to have 2 different strength for front and back

[tulip dust]

cup have a shim you can remove,
can paper cut one in need to add one

[delicate shale]

i thought about adding a little tape to my front one but i havent gotten around to it yet

[tulip dust]

(tend to do by itself by some wear out)

[tulip dust]

can also do this

[near vortex]

Go to a local hardware store

[delicate shale]

I want that sweet spot where they stay in place but aren't locked in place, I can walk around with both controllers attached and they dont fall off at all on a magnistock

[light prism]

My climbing slings will suffice. 😄

[delicate shale]

no way, buy an actual rifle sling lol

[tulip dust]

should be able to do same with magtube...
if you don't get a clean snap sound when attaching the cup, then one of the magnet is to low, or parts are to 'pristine'

(on conventions, i always have a magtube on me, with controllers, and it fall only when i want)

[delicate shale]

I like to optimize my reloads from my days of shooting competitively so if I can shave off a few ms from having to overcome the force of the magnet then I'm a happy camper lol

[tulip dust]

all the point of my patent,
hold huge backward force, stay in place securely, damn easy to remove from the structure with a specific side movement (to be more 'natural' as possible

[delicate shale]

ya you lose far more time from reloading than you do from anything else, and in an fps a few ms can make all the difference

[tulip dust]

but it require fine magnet lvl tuning, or some wearout in normal use to be perfect

[versed coral]

brothers what is a good gunstock i can trust u

[delicate shale]

im trying to decide whether i want the knuckle straps or not, as the price gets closer to $200 its a hard sell for me

[versed coral]

well more like how easy are they to make since that seems like fun

[forest girder]

Magni. Sanlaki sleek, protube

[delicate shale]

protube, magnistock, sanlaki are all great

lol

[versed coral]

ok

[forest girder]

Proves we are based 🔥

[tulip dust]

ProStraps is a nice add-on

[versed coral]

thank u guys ! have a good day

[delicate shale]

sanlaki lets you use shotguns, magnistock is better for rifles and a bit more comfortable and easy to adjust, prostock is like an upgraded magnistock

[delicate shale]

ya i hate feeling like im going to throw my controllers even with a wrist strap

what is a bipod for tho, laying down?

[tulip dust]

depend also if you want an haptic one^^

[tulip dust]

laying down, and good counter weight for forcetube^^

[delicate shale]

bipods on real firearms are for shooting stability against a surface but in vr it seems strange

[delicate shale]

ahh counterweight

[tulip dust]

just put a table on the side of your play aera 🤷

and bipod become a cheat code^^

[forest girder]

How much does the forcetube weigh

[delicate shale]

does the forcetube just rumble or does it have some legit thump to it like a firearm?

[tulip dust]

don't remember, about 500g

@forest girder

[austere pine]

Anyone recommend a gunstock for got within the UK? 👍🏻

My birthday coming up and can’t think of anything else I want

[forest girder]

I think Kobra makes their stocks in the UK

So sidewinder or ultralight are good

[tulip dust]

@austere pine we deliver fast, and to UK

[austere pine]

Oh yeah I see them on Etsy. A lot of wild looking variations

[austere pine]

Protubevr.com?

[delicate shale]

ya it looks like it has a weight that slaps the back of the stockw when you fire

[tulip dust]

yes

[tulip dust]

exact, it kick the soulder

and support up to P90 fire rates

[delicate shale]

lol

I was wondering what would justify the cost for haptics but now i get it

[austere pine]

Anyone using this magtube from ProTube? 👍🏻

[gusty elm]

Yep it does wonders

[delicate shale]

i'm ordering one now honestly

[austere pine]

The £113 one? First one I clicked was 350 😅

[tulip dust]

yes, and there is also tons of review all over youtube

[delicate shale]

ya the one without the haptics

[austere pine]

What’s the special ghosts of tabor discount code? 👍🏻😂

[tulip dust]

go for MagTube or ProStarter for lower budject

[tulip dust]

have to check our newsletter for rolling sales

(will surely have something for starwars day.... follow our tweeter 😋 )

[forest girder]

Was expecting a lot less tbh

[tulip dust]

about the recoil?

[austere pine]

Will keep an eye out thanks

[forest girder]

Yeah thought it was vibrations

[tulip dust]

no it would by crapp^^

[forest girder]

Yeah

[tulip dust]

this feature is why it's so expensive to build,
see this as a wireless game connected power tool that need to be able to take the plane without "dangerous" on the box

[austere pine]

Does the kickback vary per weapon type? Is it programmed for different games or? Won’t be buying it just yet but looks cool. Defo interested in the magtube though🤘🏻

[tulip dust]

depend on Gane devs, but completly possible to drive it as you want,
(little pinch to max power)

[raw willow]

How do yall have your protubes set up?

Every way I try feels off

[royal wagon]

i had a really good setup before the last patch that changed the offsets and its not quite perfect yet

[hexed copper]

Yeah, I like the way contractors approaches the gunstock setup, where you can tweak it for each weapon. I can't use irons on an AK (the headset bumps the gunstock) but have no problem with M4s

[slow frigate]

Gunstock calibration is coming

[hexed copper]

Neato!

[tulip dust]

I use this one,
Set 1st hand and but part holding the rifle one hand,
And then place the 2nd controller so the rifle don't move (or minor move) when you grab it 2 handed

(on actual update, front controller is little rotated left on the tube...)

(main controller cup end up well lined with the back end)

[blazing nexus]

Do you guys play with hold or toggle grip? For me toggle feels nice with a rifle and gunstock but cumbersome when looting. Hold seems to be the opposite.

[royal wagon]

index i play hold, when i played on cv1/quest in other games its toggle

[tulip dust]

This change the setting for loot also?